Drink Champs - Episode 306 w/ 2 Chainz
Episode Date: March 18, 2022N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legendary, 2 Chainz!2 Chainz aka Tity Boi takes some time away from his hit show “Most Expensivest” to have s...ome drinks and smoke some 🌳 with the Champs! Listen as he shares stories about his journey, creating new music with Lil Wayne and Statik Selektah. 2 Chainz also talks why he left DTP (Disturbing tha Peace) and more! Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This is your boy, N-O-R-E.
What up?
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And this is military crazy war.
Drink champs.
Yappy yowl.
Make some noise.
And I tell you something.
When I say I seen this man's beginning This is when I say
This guest that we're talking about
He's a hustler
Hustler
Like everyone who hustle
And grind
And go to work
Has to respect this man
I know everyone feels the same way
About me and his album right now
But they still his competition
So niggas ain't even give it
Niggas ain't trying not to give it up.
But the man,
this is the years,
and when you're in the game,
these years is supposed to,
when you're supposed to make a half-assed album,
the man did not only make a half,
he did not only make a stellar album.
I'm going to go ahead and say,
I think I'm damn near sure
it's a classic.
Every single track is hard, hard, hard.
I was promoting this shit like I was his street team.
No, you were.
And I told that to him.
I'm not doing it.
I said, that's my nigga.
But I'm not even doing it because he's my brother.
I'm not doing it because he's my friend.
And I'm not doing it.
I'm doing it because this is pure great fucking music.
It's great fucking music.
The man made the album the other year.
I'm going out there
and I've been saying it.
No one have been
testing me though.
They've been hitting me
on the DMs and be like,
yo, you right?
But I'm like,
say it publicly, nigga.
Like, what the fuck?
But I realize
some of the niggas
steal this competition.
So in case you don't know
who the fuck we talking about,
we talking about
motherfucking 2 Chainz.
There you go.
Now, I'm going to go ahead and say it. I've been in the rap game. 2 Chainz, bring it on!
Now, I'ma go ahead and say it.
I've been in the rap game, I know the rap game.
The more years that you go, the more experiences,
the more possessions and money you make,
the less content and subject be matterin'.
You understand what I'm sayin'?
How the fuck did you still maintain this subject matter
after all these years, after all this success,
all the cars, all the everything?
You still made a motherfucking
great fucking, I'm
saying a classic. You ain't got to say it. I'll take the beat
for you. You know what I'm saying?
How the fuck did you do that?
A lot of
experiences that I still
hadn't had a chance to touch on.
You know, music for artists is therapeutic, right?
Right.
And so it's something that I do constantly, night in, night out.
I'm always, you know, trying to get my feelings and emotions out.
I'm always working on trying to be better than I was, you know, the day before that.
That's just something that I've been living by.
And that drive is still there. Yeah, my drive. I'm super, know, the day before that. That's just something that I've been living by. That drive is still there.
Yeah, my drive.
I'm super, I'm so passionate about it.
I love, I love, you know, working with all the artists, artists that I hadn't worked
with before.
That's what this album was about, like working with, you know, the newer, young generation
and kind of combining those vocal instruments together to come up with something that, you
know, sonically wasn't out yet, you know what I mean? That's an interesting
thing that you say because
a lot of times when we get elder
and then we start messing with
the young boys, we try to go in their world.
Oh yeah. And that's when we fuck up.
I think you did the perfect balance because
from 4'2 Doug
that's not 42 Doug. I learned that.
From 4'2 Doug to
our little baby. You actually, I don't want to say
Brungham completely in your world,
but y'all shared a world together
that was unique.
Y'all met in the middle.
Yeah.
I think that's something, I mean,
you know, as an older artist,
it's a couple things that older artists
in the past that we've seen
could maybe hamper them
or make them fizzle out a little faster.
And that's not embracing the youth and the young and upcoming artists
who are doing great things.
And trying to do what is not natural to them or common to them.
So, you know, I know it's like when I'm in the studio every night,
I'm definitely not doing
the same records
because I know
I have weaknesses.
It's like basketball.
You know what I'm saying?
You want to work
on your free throws
or your left hand.
So in the studio,
I'm not working on
doing a whole R&B song,
but I may try to work
on being more melodic
because you see
the direction
of where music is going.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not trying
to just be full on auto-tune, it may be some some of my voice right now because
I don't want to you know have that a hot you know old school type of vibe to it because this is just
where yeah you took a real old school you know ears are just trained to hear certain things so
um I'm I'm smart enough to still want to learn more you know certain things so I'm smart enough
to still want to learn more.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm smart enough to,
I'm smart enough
to learn from somebody
older than me
and younger than me.
I don't know everything
so I think that's what,
what helps me
kind of stay around
and be present.
Let's make some noise
for that.
It's obvious.
It's obvious.
Now,
I want to assert on purpose
New York done changed because my friend right here to the right has always been saying Make some noise for that. It's obvious. It's obvious. Now, I wore this shirt on purpose.
New York done changed.
Because my friend right here to the right has always been saying how the South never gave New York love.
No, no.
New York never gave the South love.
Okay, New York never gave the South love.
Have you had that experience?
And I'm talking about a certain generation, a certain time frame is what I'm talking about. Oh my.
When the nigga go ask the question, go like this.
It ain't gonna be good.
No, it can because I can talk about a personal experience or I can talk about the masses and something like that.
But we need both.
Yeah, but my personal experiences with New York people is I was embraced.
You know what I'm saying?
Talk that shit to you, Jay.
I was embraced personally from the likes of Nori, Primo, Jim Jones, Jada.
This is, you know, years ago before I became well-known.
So I remember certain artists that would embrace me.
Nori put me on Pino.
That's right.
Put you on Pino Grigio.
Pino Grigio first.
That's right.
And he put me on Tiger Bone.
Tiger Bone, baby.
Tiger Bone.
We retired Tiger Bone.
We retired Tiger Bone
because of COVID.
That shit came from China.
Not because of that.
That was my first time
Hearing it
You know what I'm saying
And I hung out
With them boys
In the New York streets
And honestly
It was something
That I always wanted to do
Man it was something
You know
When you think about
Somebody from the south
We saw these visuals
Of New York people
With boots and bombers
Walking
You know what I mean
You know what I mean
So I had that chance
To do that You know what I mean Bardo had that chance To To do that
You know what I mean
Bardo
I can't forget about him
But just like
Mobbing with
People in New York
Was fun for me
So they gave you love
They showed me love
They showed me love
They showed me love
You're changing
Exactly what I've always said
It was the industry
And it was at a certain time
In like the early 90s
The industry
So personally you said
New York showed you love
Yeah
But overall
When New York had you love. Yeah. But overall when New York
had the belt or the title
then
yeah they kind of
they kind of held on to it. You know what I'm
saying? Like y'all doing right now? And when
an individual. But see let me
say this. When a New York person
had the title that
person had the title like y'all
wasn't even sharing it amongst each other. You know what I'm saying? Good point. We passed the torch. That person had the title. Like, y'all wasn't even sharing it amongst
each other.
You know what I'm saying?
Good point.
We passed the torch.
Atlanta definitely
showed up.
You know how when
somebody win a championship,
you see everybody
holding the trophy?
Like,
you know what I'm saying?
Everybody get a picture
with the trophy.
They go to the club,
they be having rappers
holding the trophy.
Boom, boom.
In New York,
they had a trophy.
One of them.
That trophy never came out.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
And y'all all be slick homeboys, but did it make you be like, man, you know what I'm saying?
You know, whatever.
You know what I mean?
So I saw that, you know what I mean?
Just from the outside looking in, it looks like that.
Bro, let's make some noise, because the ladder's doing that right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Y'all do, here, you want to stop?
Because we got to make puffer pride. No, we have to make puffer pride Because we got to make puffer pride.
No, we have to make puffer pride.
No, no, no, let's start right now.
Yes, please.
All right, listen.
Where's my main camera?
Right here, right here.
Hey.
This is not a paid ad.
This is really how I feel.
This, in this bottle right here,
this beautiful bottle with the, it looks like Roy T at the top.
That's right.
This reposado right here is owned by a great friend of mine.
That's right.
And one of my mentors.
That's right. All right.
He goes by Sean P. He goes by Sean. Right.
P. Diddy.
Right.
Combs.
Right.
And,
and,
and he's right.
You know what I'm saying?
We had a talk and I just want to tell you,
it wasn't even a talk.
He said what he had to say
and I said,
you're right.
And we do be drinking
all the white man shit.
1942.
Yeah, and all of that.
You know what I'm saying? Fuck them niggas. I don't know who 1942 is. I the white man shit. 1942. Yeah, and all of that. Casa Azul.
Fuck them niggas.
I don't know who 1942 is.
I don't know Mr. 1942.
I don't know Casa Azul.
I ain't Thanksgiving dinner at this nigga house.
You bring it on bottles.
Yeah, and that's facts.
And, you know, you drink it and you be vibing to it and stuff.
But them people not paying me.
And neither is, bro, I don't need no money.
But I'm going to need this on my rider.
I'ma need this in my section.
We gonna pipe this shit the fuck up.
You know what I'm saying?
And this all we gotta do.
This ain't even in my lane,
so why would I even not wanna do it?
You know what I'm saying?
It's not like I have a competing brand or something.
Even if I did, I'd still fuck my brother.
That's true for everybody.
I can't lie to you.
I can't lie to you.
Go ahead.
Pour your drink.
It's a cool drink, champ.
I can't lie to you.
Jay called me one day and was like, because I said a beautiful thing about working with
Jay, Nas, and Puff, and then the next day I had drank some Moet.
We don't be thinking like that.
But I do now.
You be catching.
You be getting to put your camera down.
I don't talk about it.
So he hit me.
He said, I thought you don't know Mr. Moet.
And I was like, I never had an argument.
But then he was so rich, I had to tell him they ran out of Asia Spade.
This is when the PPP loans first hit.
Motherfuckers bought everything.
I had to go to six stores for him to believe me. Like, yo, look, they don't got it. And he's like, but we got it straight. This is when the PPP loans first hit. Motherfuckers bought everything. I had to go to six stores for him to believe me.
Like, yo, look, they don't got it.
And he's like, so, but we got it straight.
This is black-owned everything.
Look at that.
We'll get us some rock bottle over here, man.
Make us feel better, man.
We don't say it about life, baby.
You know what I'm saying?
We know the owners of all these shits right here, man.
Come on, goddammit.
We're going to support.
So let me just tell you.
Let me ask you something, 2 Chainz.
At one point.
No, no, I'm going to put it in the ace. Okay? It's right you something 2 Chainz. At one point, no, no, I'm gonna put it in the ace.
Okay?
Right here.
Yeah, yeah.
At one point, going to a strip club was
like considered some corny shit.
It was?
When?
When was that?
Who said New York?
Me.
Oh yeah, it's fact.
You see, down south, that wasn't the same thing.
Oh, New York, we was, oh, this is gonna be
one of them kind of concerts.
The comparisons.
Listen, let's just be clear.
For the last 15 years, I've lived in the south.
Is that, is that, everyone knows that.
But I can't, the way I talk, niggas know where I'm from.
Like, there's no way.
But at one point, I think it was the Players Club. It was the first time we actually accepted that.
Because...
The movie?
No, it was actually a Players Club.
Oh, the club in Atlanta.
The club in Atlanta.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
And when we went there, because we didn't chill at strip clubs.
How did the culture go from no one chilling at strip clubs to everywhere in the world
kind of reflects Atlanta's strip club scene?
I'm going to be real with you. No strip clubs
like Atlanta? No, not even that.
No doubt about it.
Shut up, Miami. We got good strip clubs down there.
Like a close number two.
But what really happened was
they're a very close number two.
What happened in Atlanta, what happened
in the industry and what happened with
Make It Rain and strippers. You lost big time with Follies though
Follies rest in peace yeah yeah we need a father yeah the thing that happened
with our strip clubs was really you know meech and BMF but that was really that's
what really changed that's what made it you know I? Because it became a prestigious thing.
You know what I'm saying?
When I went to the strip clubs,
it was one called Pleasers off Cleveland Avenue,
and they used to pop popcorn and shit, right?
And they had $5 dances, right?
Okay, it's not slang, right?
Pop popcorn?
It's real popcorn?
It's not real popcorn.
Oh, we got a popcorn machine.
I thought that was some kind of slang.
I don't know about that.
You're about to pop a popcorn machine. I thought that was a pop-up machine. I don't know about that. You're about to pop a popcorn machine.
I'm just trying to pence you, you know,
two different eras.
Before, before BMF and like,
so you know what I'm saying?
So the clothes was like this.
It'd be a couple girls,
you know what I'm saying?
And it wasn't, it was cool.
And then like when BMF came,
you started seeing girls
that you went to school with
because the money was like circulating so well. And then when BMF came, you started seeing girls that you went to school with because the money was circulating so well.
And you started seeing people in Atlanta,
I felt like at one time,
well, at least from my side of town,
people, we would get money
and we would just hoard the money.
And we would have a nice car,
but we wouldn't drive it until an event came.
And we had nice clothes,
but we wouldn't put it on
until it was time to put it on.
And when, you know what I'm saying, when BMF came, it made you just want to spend your money. came and we had nice clothes but we wouldn't put it on until it was time to put it on and went like
you know what I'm saying when BMF came it made you just want to spend your money it made you
want to be a part of that that flex and it made um strip clubs way more popular and it made girls
want to dance and it made it actually helped out the Atlanta scene because the dancers are really
like the A&Rs for Atlanta that's how we That's how we stay on top because the records get broke.
Let's be clear,
a lot of strippers
just owe a lot of money then.
I mean,
they get paid off.
That's true, that's true.
It's kind of like
the first TikTok
if you think about it.
Yeah, it's like,
that's hard, yeah,
because they tell a DJ,
like, I need to hear this song.
This is going to make
these niggas tilt.
And boom,
and that song,
if it's your song,
then you've got to then you got a you know
You could tell your trajectory from there
Whatever but definitely I can say that when BMF came and meets they buying all the ones
You know I'm saying really so that make a rapper say make it rain cuz you seeing this that make a you know I mean
And that's where all that shit really really came because for years
Yes, the rest of the world looked at throwing money as some corny shit for years.
Let's just be clear.
Niggas that's in their 40s know what I'm talking about.
I mean, if you don't got the money,
you shouldn't be doing that shit anyway.
If you don't got it, you shouldn't be doing it.
See, then another thing in Atlanta culture was the DJ would really hurt your feelings
if you want to spend money.
It's like you have to go to church
and you feel like the preacher talking to you.
So the DJ would be like,
man, what the fuck you doing over there?
Your broke ass just looking at pussy. You be like, you be looking at her.
Yeah.
Let me go ahead and get 500 dollars.
Yeah, let me get this nigga.
Who he playing with?
But home, not even talking to nobody.
He just making you feel a certain way.
And you know, that's how it happened.
No, I never thought that.
Every time I walk into the club and they shot you out,
nor were you in the building, you're like, you automatically like,
give me four bars, man.
They didn't do that for the shout out.
They don't stop saying your name until your bar is in.
And then they wanna count your bars.
Now you like, shit.
And if they play your record, you better be spending.
They count your bars.
You with four people, but now you gotta buy four bars.
So you don't even, yeah.
It's crazy.
There's a catch to it.
Let's be honest. The way
Atlanta is running right now,
how Atlanta got it on a lot, by the way,
respect, show love to that. Did you ever
think that, though? Hell yeah.
Yeah? Yeah, we had
OutKast, we had Kilo.
Yeah, it's been a while for Atlanta.
We had Sammy Sam, we had some hard acts in Atlanta.
We had, you know, Good & Mild, we had a bunch of R&B acts, you know, TLC. Yeah, I thought so. And while for Atlanta. We had Sammy Sam. We had some hard acts in Atlanta. We had, you know, Good & Mild.
We had a bunch of R&B acts, you know, TLC.
Yeah, I thought so.
And it's Atlanta.
We're not lame.
It's Atlanta.
We like popular pop, and we're not country or nothing.
We selling bags and bricks and shit.
You know, we doing it.
We running foreign calls.
You know, it's about 30 colonies in Atlanta.
Fuck you talking about, like, 20 Maybach trucks.
It's like everybody got a Lamb truck.
So Atlanta's just like a place that I don't think is no longer looked at like someone following somebody.
We kind of like, we lead and people following our actions on what we do and what we got on and how we talk and shit like that.
You say not country, but I'm going to be honest.
That guy on your album, that skits, that nigga country.
I don't know what he talking about, my nigga.
I listened to this shit about 20 times.
I still don't know.
Nigga said, he said, his whole half was gone.
Yeah, man.
So that was actually a real thing.
Wow.
And just to clear it up to the family, it was no disrespect meant by the skit.
So the skits on my album were real-time
skits, right? We had, at this particular time, it was 42 in the studio. We were drinking.
Right. But in our mind, it was Deleon.
But in my mind, it was Deleon, right? And I had been recording outside the booth, so
my mic was outside.
We were in the studio, you know what I mean?
And so people started talking about,
the name of my studio that I used to hustle out of
was 5540, you know what I'm saying?
And they just started telling all these stories.
It was like all these unsolved stories,
you know what I'm saying?
It's been years later, and it was alcohol,
so people felt comfortable saying,
like, yeah, you know, I had to break in.
I'm like, what?
You know what I'm saying?
I had to do it.
I'm like, you did what?
You know, I'm really like,
so I told my agent, I said, man, press record.
Press record.
You know what I'm saying?
Drink some more.
You know what I'm saying?
They get to tell it, man.
There's drink champs.
Yeah, fam, really, the tape is like maybe three hours long,
so I just took edits of that material
to put inside my album.
But on that particular skit,
I had a little partner that got killed,
you know what I'm saying?
And he answered the door,
and something unfortunately happened,
like somebody shot.
And I don't know the details.
I was just hearing the details then,
but what my friend was trying to say is that you know he wasn't when he when he got shot in the side
that he didn't see any blood like he didn't know it's just like his his side was gone and he was
just like emotional talking about it and stuff like that and then like I actually spoke to um
the guy who passed I spoke to his sister you know I'm saying the semi because he she was just like
man it just opened up another wound
because it had been solved,
you know what I mean?
But no,
I can't talk about it
because I'm man enough
to talk about it,
talk to them about it,
and just,
you know,
anybody that know me,
know I'm not trying to,
be on nothing negative,
you know,
period anyway.
It was just,
painting the full story
of like my album
or just like what was going on.
It even starts off
talking about
like trying to paint a picture
like this, this was the setting, you know what I going on. It even starts off talking about trying to paint the picture.
This was the setting, you know what I'm saying?
This was the studio.
You can hang up here, but you can't come in the back because we got shit in the back.
We got bags and stuff like that.
So it kind of sets the tone for anybody
who hadn't heard the album.
Once you check out Dope, Don't Sell Yourself,
the skits, they're meticulous,
and they have meaning to them.
I had no idea.
I thought,
I swear to God,
I thought it was some rehearsed shit.
Yeah.
I didn't know this was real stuff.
But by the way,
I really technically don't know
what homie's talking about.
No, no one does.
That's what I was trying to explain
to the young lady.
Like, this is,
the people that know
what's going on in this
is so small,
but I still understood
where they were coming from. But yeah, that's, everything, man, a lot of the things that I what's going on in this is so small, but I still understood where they were coming from.
But yeah,
that's,
that's the,
everything,
man,
a lot of the things that I went through earlier,
you know what I mean?
I always say this,
like everybody got a story to tell.
Everybody been through something or you just ain't had a life.
Like you had to go through something.
I get that.
That's,
it's called life.
Like if you ain't like when people are feeling depressed or feeling down,
you know,
I have,
I do have sympathy for,
but you cannot be on
A constant winning streak
Like that's just not godly
It's just
I don't think it works like that
And I'm someone that
I feel like personally
I faced a lot of
I was maybe on a downward spiral
Early on in my life
And then once I
Straightened it
Got straight
And got my mind right
And everything else got You know line, then my life changed.
You know what I'm saying?
So I just try to lead by example and not just like preaching and trying to tell.
Because I remember I was on the same bullshit a lot of these other people were on.
So I just try to move, you know, have my actions be, you know what I'm saying, solid, be very transparent.
You know what I'm saying?
And the thing that you were doing for my album, I really appreciate it because I just walked up to you like, I don saying solid be very transparent you know what I'm saying and the thing that you
were doing for my album
I really appreciate it
because I just walked up to you
like I don't even got your number
you know what I'm saying
exactly
so you know that was
from the heart
yeah that's what I know
but we do
but let me just tell you something
if you would have made
a corny album
I would have talked about it too
but I'm not going to
ever do that
of course
yeah yeah yeah
but I got you
but I'm not going to
I kid you not
like this album is fucking,
like, I know how hard it is
to stay relevant in this game.
And I know the more successful you get,
the more time,
sometimes your subject matter,
it becomes out of touch.
Because, like, really,
what can you really relate to the hood
when you're not going to the hood
all the time?
You know what I'm saying?
But that's why 444 album was so ill to me because Jay, he,
I actually love 444 album more than I love Reasonable Doubt.
Oh.
Real talk because I didn't relate to Reasonable Doubt. Like I was broke,
and this nigga talking about some real big money shit back then. I was like, fuck him.
Yeah.
Like, hell no. Like, then, you know what I mean, later on, I started getting some money.
I was like, oh, that's what you were talking about.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, that's true.
So for you to do that and identify, I mean,
it was really a really great job, my brother.
Really great job.
Thank you.
Like, man, I'm looking for you to fall off.
I'm looking for you, like, not in a bad way,
because I'm like, all right, cool.
It happens to us.
And you sharp.
And I remember Aries Spears saying that you wasn't lyrical.
I felt like you just wanted to shut this nigga up, this album.
Did you think like that?
Well, to be truthful with you, this is not even my lyrical album.
I'm about to drop this project with me and Wayne, Collie Grove 2.
And that's going to be, that's like we rapping in the metal verse.
What's the name of this again?
It's called Collie Grove.
Oh, yeah, that's why you had to do it already.
College Park and Collie Grove, my bad. that's why you had the one already. College Park
and Holly Grove,
my bad.
But it has a title
that I hadn't put out yet.
So what I'm about to do next
is put out a deluxe.
I got five more songs
that's dropping
off of Dope Don't Sell Itself.
One of them is this
hard ass shit I got
with Bieber.
Me and him,
this shit hard as hell.
When you say Bieber,
we talking about
Justin Bieber, sir?
Yeah, that's the only one
I know.
Okay, nigga,
all right.
This one hard. And then I got, me and Gucci Justin Bieber, sir? Justin Bieber, yeah, that's the only one I know. Okay, okay, nigga, all right. Yeah, so this one hard.
And then I got, me and Gucci got one,
but it's like four or five more songs that I'm adding
because my project was only 30 minutes long on purpose,
you know what I'm saying?
And then I'm coming with this Me and Wayne project,
and then I got a project with me and Static Selective.
Yeah, shout out Static.
Well, it's just, you know what I mean?
So really, these projects are getting mixed.
These projects are already done. I know what I got, you know what I mean? So really, these projects are getting mixed. These projects are already done.
I know what I got.
You know what I'm saying?
So, and people, my peers have always respected my lyricism
because they are peers and they get the artist aspect.
My problem used to always be, and still is,
is connecting the dots with some of the fans
and knowing that, you know, I've heard people tell me
they ain't got some of my shit until years later,
like heard some shit and I just got that type of shit.
And that's really what I really do it for.
I never said I was the best rapper or best lyricist,
but, you know, I stand up with the best of them.
You know, I can't say that.
Me still being like trying to stay humble and say this, that like, man, I love doing this shit with the best of them. You know, I can't say that. And, you know, me still being like trying to stay humble
and say this,
that like, man,
I love doing this shit
with the best of them.
You went to the Ye show?
Yeah, I did.
I was here.
You performed
or you was in the stands?
No, I was in the stands.
Okay.
How'd you like it?
Man, I like shit
down there,
everything bro do
for real though.
Right.
Yeah, I do.
And then like going back
and seeing the pictures and, you know, that kind of artistic view, right?
Yeah, you look dumb.
That shit look crazy, like, from where I was at.
But I know, bro, I talked to bro, and I know how he is about Jumbotrons versus being there.
But I know my eyesight, too.
So some of it I didn't get a chance to see till later on.
You would wear the boots, too?
Do I wear the boots? Yeah, the water boots. I don't get a chance to see till later on. You would wear the boots too? The boots?
Yeah, the water boots.
I don't have them in the water boots.
Because you got some like water boots like that.
I do got some crazy.
Balenciagas though.
Yeah, these are some crazy Balenciagas that I will come clean.
They big, big.
I ain't going to lie.
You can walk in the snow with those.
You can do a lot of things with those.
Yeah, they are big.
But no, I mean, I probably, I don't know. I don do a lot of things with those. Yeah, they are big. But, no, I mean,
I probably,
I don't know.
I don't have anything
like that.
You know, I still try to,
I still try to do
a really good job
of being myself.
But I don't have anything
against his boots.
That's bro shit.
Yeah, no.
It's ill.
But he made it make sense
at the show
because he had water.
That did make sense. That did make sense.
It felt like it was all leading up to that.
Nah man them shits was fresh.
Game had the water boost on and then he dropped to his knees like Prince.
He did some Prince shit.
See I didn't even see that shit.
I didn't see mine.
I was like nigga hold that.
I was like oh he did that shit.
Them boys having the Holy Ghost over there.
Them boys having the Holy Ghost over there.
I was like alright game.
Them shits was good.
Nah them shits was fresh.
They was kicking it.
Alright before we, cause I wanna run through each track on this album and I want I was like, alright, game. This shit was good. Nah, those shits was fresh. They was kicking it, yeah.
So, alright, before we,
because I'm going to want to do
each track on this album,
and I wanted you to tell me
something about that.
But before we do that,
we want you to know, 2 Chainz,
our show is about giving niggas
they flowers,
giving brothers they flowers
while they alive.
So many people want to say
how great you are
when something happens,
something tragic happens.
We ain't about that.
We confident enough
to give you your flowers here. So we're going to give you your motherfucking flowers. This is 2 Chainz, motherf ain't about that. We confident enough to give you your flowers here.
So we gonna give you your motherfucking flowers.
This is 2 Chainz motherfucking flowers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He an alumni too.
He drink chance alumni, so.
Yes, you all drink chance alumni.
Shout out to the flowers.
You gave us one of our,
let's just stick with the flowers for a second.
Oh, take one?
No, no, no.
All those is yours.
They last forever.
They last forever.
They beautiful, man.
I appreciate that. Put them next to your trophies
Whatever you do
You know you gave us
One of our first viral moments
We got a drink to that
Hold on
Take a shot to that
Salud
Salud
Cheers
You know you gave us
One of our first viral moments
Man what I did
I don't know
You don't remember
I remember now
You remember
Didn't he just mention...
No, that was Eric Spears. That's a different guy.
No, wasn't it the Justin Bieber joint? No.
No. Wait, Justin Bieber? What are you talking about?
You high.
What? You just spoke of the week.
Yeah, I was. Yeah, Justin Bieber ain't been nowhere near
the drink champs. No, it was what he said.
Huh?
I don't know. I'm confused in episodes. Once, once, activists like once, Justin Bieber and a few other artists of high caliber started
getting caught with this kind of drink.
Okay, hold on.
Justin Bieber got caught with activists?
We did not know that.
Let's make some noise for Justin Bieber.
He's a.
He's a.
Justin Bieber, you officially the. He's in the.
Justin Bieber, you officially a.
Go ahead.
Well, hey, hey, where is that?
We want to show you.
We want to show you.
Oh, that moment.
Yeah.
I'm talking about when he was on the show, though.
What did he say?
I've been on the show before?
Yeah.
Yeah, you were.
We were.
You were alumni.
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
I've been on your show before.
When I said welcome back, you must have been like, you buggin'.
Man, man, man.
It was early drink, too.
Now it's your turn.
Girl, girl, watch this. Watch this.
Now watch this, Will.
Now watch this, A-Lane.
Hey, yo, two changes. This nigga got to look at the camera.
Come on. Oh my DNA. Hey yo 2 Chainz, this nigga I can look at long as he's laying.
Oh my god.
What? What'd you say?
Move.
Chainz!
Yo 2 Chainz, what's going on? We calling you live on the podcast. This is NRE nigga.
Yo what up man?
What's up?
Kill him with that.
Alright you listen, listen, listen. I told this nigga Jack Thriller he a bitch-ass nigga. He's standing right here.
See, I'm thinking I'm winking to you.
I'm going to explain this.
He's got to say he punked you and shit.
Is that correct?
I should have definitely told him you fucked me up.
So I know you fuck him up.
I'm going to keep it a secret.
He definitely instigated it.
What now, bro?
All right, all right.
Jack?
Don't come back.
What up, man?
You hear you?
You're mad.
Just do it.
He got nothing to do with this bullshit.
All right.
Jack Thriller's here, and he's talking
about some old beef with you.
I told him, I said, 2 Chainz official nigga.
Man, bro.
What happened with you and Jack?
I'm not even going to waste my energy on him.
On Jack Thriller?
Hey, listen, Chainz.
He want to squawk with you.
I want to talk to you.
I want to talk to you. Talk on the mic as well.
I don't have no words to say to bro.
I see bro.
But anyway, bro, I don't have no, bro.
Hey, listen.
No, we need to talk, bro.
Yeah, I'm good, my nigga.
I love you, my nigga.
I'm going to hang up.
Come on to Combat Jack Show.
I'm going to hang up.
Combat Jack Show.
Combat Jack Show.
Combat Jack Show.
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hey listen
why listen to me boy don't ever wait hey boy don't ever mention me again in your life Shut up, y'all. For real. You bugging the fuck out. Hey, boy. Hey, boy.
Hey, boy.
You's a dog, nigga.
You's a pussy, nigga, boy.
You's a pussy, nigga.
Your mama's a pussy, nigga, nigga.
You's a pussy, nigga. You's a pussy, nigga.
You's a pussy, nigga, nigga.
You's a pussy, nigga, nigga.
You's a pussy, nigga, nigga.
I'm going to be honest.
I'm going to be honest.
Jack.
Jack.
I had never heard a nigga say, your mama pussy.
Yo.
Yo. Yo. Yo. And then Jack dipped mama pussy, yo, yo, yo.
And then Jack dipped out of the room.
Oh yeah, Jack ran, by the way, you had him so scared,
he ran out, we show you the whole skit later.
He ran out the room, we had to call him back,
call him, by the way.
We didn't know what the fuck we were doing.
We didn't know what the fuck we were doing,
we were learning the media at the time.
Yeah, man, man, man.
That's probably why you didn't have my number,
you tried to just.
No.
You said this nigga know he got some shit. Man, man, man. That's probably why you didn't have my number. You probably just...
You said this nigga know he got some shit.
Nah, man.
That's really probably... That's probably my bad, man.
It was funny as hell.
Just looking at that clip,
because, you know, I'm not there.
I'm just getting a comment.
You're caught off guard.
Yeah, I was caught off guard.
And then, you know,
I think, like,
I don't even know the history behind, bro, but I think he think I'm supposed know I think like I don't even know
The history behind bro
But I think he
Think I'm supposed
To remember him
I don't have a
Like first of all
You know
He's a comedian
So whatever man
And I can't be that
And so
That's what I've been
Working on a long time
Yeah
Why you trying to
Bring it back
No no no
That's a part of our history
No Like This little switch I like this trigger or whatever you know we all got triggered right
and if you don't if you if you're not in control you out of control you know I'm saying and that
was a rare moment of me kind of being out of control. I don't even want to
really waste a lot of energy.
I ain't got no problem with bro. He a comedian.
He try to be funny. He's not funny
to me. You know what I'm saying?
I love
comedians. I do.
I really do.
And that was it. I think I was just caught off guard.
I don't know if a nigga I maybe heard something wrong
Cause everybody was trying to yell
And pipe me down at one time
So I probably thought
Niggas was wanting some smoke
And
I don't know
I had to just remind
Niggas that
Yo when your accent
Come out more
It's like
It's like when it's
You make it get bad
It's like
What
I said what
You kept saying what
I said what
Yo I never heard you yell
That's my first time
It was amazing though
Yeah and then
That shit
It was weird because
You thought I had
Something against you
So it put a strain
On me and you
And we brothers
Like we fucking
Yeah
Real Virgo brothers
That's right
You know what I'm saying
So
That whole shit Was just like negative energy.
If I see a dude, no, I won't do nothing.
He ain't got to worry about none of that.
He definitely want to squash it.
He's a good dude.
He's a good guy.
You've been having him scared to death, though.
He's been scared to death.
He moved back to Atlanta.
I seen him on the red carpet one time,
and I was with my mama and my wife.
Okay, you can't do that with your mama and your wife.
No, that's when I turn up.
Oh, my God.
Oh, no, man.
Man, let me tell you something about me.
Let me tell you a little something about me.
Take another shot for that.
Come on, take another shot.
Let's take another shot.
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All right.
So, I'm someone that I let stuff slide.
I have my two strikes.
I have one strike at 15.
I have another strike at 17. I got my two strikes out of the way a at 15. I have another strike at 17.
I got my two strikes out of the way a little early, right?
Oh, you're talking about criminal records. Yeah, so I start.
You know how people go to jail and then you tell God,
I ain't going to do this.
Oh, you get so drunk or so high.
Right, I ain't going to never do this again.
Yeah.
So I've been found God.
I've been found God.
I've been, you know what I mean,
thinking, and so I try not to do things
that'll put me on this kind of thing, right?
So if something is happening, escalating,
I try to like separate myself from it, right?
Unless my wife or my mom around.
They ain't never seen me do nothing punkish. myself from it, right? Unless my wife or my mom around.
They ain't never seen me do nothing punk.
To them,
I'm a superhero.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I mean?
My wife would call me
in her eyes.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm that.
I ain't back.
It's nothing.
You know what I'm saying?
In my mama's eyes,
she know I'm with that. I'm with that. You know what I'm saying? In my mama's eye, she knows I'm with that.
I'm with that, you know what I'm saying?
So when my mama come around,
she got to know that she raised a hell of a nigga.
And then when my wife come around,
she got to know that she got a hell of a nigga.
I'm not copping deuces around nobody.
So if I see you with them,
I'm probably going to turn up a little bit more
because they know they've already seen it before.
And if I was the homeboys,
I ain't got a shot in front of no homeboys.
That's just my
logic around the women in my life
that I love around my daughters and stuff like
that. I had an incident in the airport
one time with a guy saying
some
white dude was in my face, but my daughters
was right there. I went losing
it in front of them.
Other than that, I'm so laid back
and cool
I really worked on that
a long time
on just how to
really control
control my shit
well let's make some
noise for that
let's make some noise
for that
I want to run
through the album
and I want you
to tell me
where your head was at
actually
it's bet it back
skit
let's start
with the skit
we already kind of said it right you already kind of yeah well we talking about the bet it back skit. Let's start with the skit. Just the skit.
We already kind of said it, right?
You already kind of said it.
Yeah, well, we're talking about the studio on the skit when it first comes on.
That's my homie Gump, and he just really describing.
Because when we were in the studio talking,
there was people there that hadn't been to that studio.
So he was just telling folks, you know what I mean,
just trying to paint the picture visually to people
who had never been to the spot before.
This is your studio, right?
Yeah, I mean, Dollar, you know,
Dollar's my guy in the playoff circle.
So when we was with DTP, we used to have to call
and ask to get studio time, you know what I'm saying?
And like, it was a process to get in the studio,
you know what I mean?
And so, at the same time, we was selling bags, right?
But we, Dollar was like, we need a spot.
We need a spot to like hang.
We need a spot, period.
We need a spot we can kick it.
Like a home base.
Like not at, because a lot of the time, like my mom was the neighborhood.
Like everybody called my mama mama.
So everybody really like sold drugs in our driveway.
And like that was just like my mama, that was her thing in the neighborhood.
Even when I went off to college,
people would really kind of take advantage of my,
my,
my house because I had a,
my house was a trap.
You know what I'm saying?
My house and the house next door.
And so,
um,
when we get this music done,
I got a call.
Like I got,
I got a call.
I got to get studio time.
I don't know if I can get a day or tomorrow.
So we ended up,
um,
getting a spot to put this studio in.
You know what I'm saying?
We hustling and doing the same thing.
And we hustling, we selling.
Whatever we selling out of it,
I end up going on tour with Wayne around 08.
You know what I'm saying?
And when I saw him and what he did every night,
like after the show as far as recording
and just looking at his work ethic,
when I got off tour and went back to 5540,
the trap that we were talking about,
I started recording to this day every single night.
Like, I figured out, like, this is what you got to do
to get what you want or where you want to get.
So that's how that happened.
But on that record, you also said you wish Nobu had a drive-thru?
You eat good food.
I haven't been to Carbone's yet.
You gonna take me?
What the yalla?
Yalla, you good.
You gotta take me, man.
You good, you good.
You good, you got it, man.
Hey, man.
You gotta take me, man.
Hey, man, you beat him up over them a long time ago, man.
Yeah, but that's a flex that if Nobu had a drive,
that's a real, that's a real, that's a real,
I caught that.
Man. I caught that.
I caught that.
That's a, that's one of them, that thing,
let me get a miso cod and a cauliflower, you know what I'm saying?
And a beet salad.
What's your favorite noble?
You better say Malibu.
Yeah, I can say Malibu.
Malibu is my favorite noble.
I can say that.
For some reason, it's like they shit taste different because you on the water.
Man, it's the whole vibe.
It's the vibe.
You got Katie Couric over there. Yeah,ic over there. That dancing is to the left.
You know what I'm saying? Woody from Cheers is running around somewhere. You know what I'm saying?
It's like, it's great just to get a reservation there. You like, you looking ill, y'all.
That's a scoop. You got your own restaurant. Yeah, I have a couple of, I have four of them.
They fucking broke in my car in your restaurant.
Damn. That's what happened?
Yes, yes. They broke in my...
But this was like two minutes.
When you see the footage...
This was a while ago too.
I had it all on sure, so it was great.
But when you see the footage, it was like the crackhead just walked up.
Whatever car was right there, I parked.
He broke the shit, took my bag, and it was like... It was four other bags, I was like, how did he know my bag was the one, he was
a professional stealer.
Well, I'm going to be honest, that's not just my restaurant, that's Atlanta, man.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Atlanta, man, I advise you to Uber or Paper Valet, you know what I'm saying It's just like You know
Man the door
It's called door locking
And if they get in there
And
Yeah it's gonna be on the streets
For sale you know
Right
It's unfortunate
But that's what a lot of
The younger guys are doing
That's what's going on
Right
Okay so
That's back at it
Better back
Better back yeah
Yeah
Okay Pop music Pop music Which is ill because When I'm hearing the radio Right Okay so So that's back at it Better back Better back yeah Yeah Okay
Pop music
Pop music
Which is ill because
When I'm hearing the radio
It feels like Def Jam
If you still
You still with Def Jam
Yeah I'm still with Def Jam
It feels like Def Jam
Went with that record
Which was interesting
You know what I mean
Yeah they did
I don't know if they
When I'm hearing the radio
Is it just in Miami
No
Is that the official single
It happened to be
Man it's funny It's like my biggest radio record Right now Since I've been Since I've been or is it just in Miami? No. Is that the official single? It happened to be.
Man, it's funny.
It's like my biggest radio record.
Right now? Since I've been...
Really?
Get the fuck out of here.
It had like
the first week,
biggest nothing.
Since I've been doing this shit.
Really?
So it's like different birthday.
Yeah, it's a brother.
So I think other people picked it.
I know Moneybagg is on the beat king,
but not just here in Miami.
This shit is like number two in certain places and stuff.
Like, yeah, bro.
Wow.
I'm not, I don't, still to this day,
I can't say I really know no music.
I mean, but I know, of course I know music,
but I can't just tell you.
But what do you mean by that, though?
That you don't know what's going to hit?
Yeah, I don't know a hit.
I mean, if I hear it, because, yeah,
if I hear, even if it's mine or someone else's,
it'll take me, you know, obviously if it's on radio,
spinning, you think like, this must be a hit,
but like if you played a project with 10 songs,
and I'd be like, even if it was mine or yours,
I would be like, ah, you know, I don't know which one,
every, because I'm thinking about which one
everybody's supposed to like, right? It's supposed to be like the most popular. Trying to think for other people, right? Yeah, you know, not just what be like, you know, I don't know which one. Because I'm thinking about which one everybody's supposed to like, right?
It's supposed to be like the most popular.
Trying to think for other people, right?
Yeah, you know, not just what I like.
Because what I like, I've been wrong too many times.
Like, this is, you know, and my taste is probably different from a lot of people.
So do you allow the label to give that input?
Because not all artists like that input from the label.
No, well, so I have full creative control.
But if I see something that's going to help,
I'm not going to have any pushback
just for the sake of being an artist.
This is what an artist should do.
Let me think about, should we go with it?
Everybody want this record? Give it to them.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm having four hard drives full of music,
so it needs to find a place to live for me anyway.
And I learned that radio and streaming
is two different things, you know what I'm saying?
Two different things, yeah.
Two different things.
You like streaming?
Well, you know, I'm a part of, I would say,
some of the older artists.
I'm from an area where we so fucking CD,
CD fucking ringtones, if you want to get to that.
Yeah.
So, so I do have streams,
but I think streams have a,
has a demographic of a more younger audience, you know what I'm saying?
And so I have, you know, some streams, some good streams or whatever,
but I, you know, I get it.
I definitely understand the algorithm.
I get it.
Okay.
Outstanding featuring Roddy Ricch.
Outstanding.
Shout out my nigga Slow.
Actually, I got that record from Slow Bucks.
Slow Bucks.
Yeah.
He was working with somebody, Nipsey.
What?
Can't forget that.
Yeah, he was working with Nipsey and some other stuff.
And he came to the studio in New York one time and played it
and then I ended up having to go to the studio
with Roddy Ricch and do something for his album.
And we ended up figuring it out from there.
And it's produced by Hit Boy, and on that song,
yeah, it's called Outstanding,
and I pop a few,
I pop my shit on that a little bit, too.
How about The Neighbors Know Your Name?
Neighbors Know My Name,
it has the lappy-tappy sound for it.
I didn't beat that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It makes me feel,
it's giving Fountain Blue,
because I talk about being in a suite with, like, these ocean views
and leaving the door unlocked for the friend and everything.
But it's the neighbor, it's that, it's some old,
I think you would say some cliche Titty Boy shit
when I say the neighbors know my name, they call me old fuck, old shit.
You know, that's some old Titty Boy shit.
She call you daddy, and she don't even call her daddy daddy.
She don't even call her daddy she don't even
call her daddy that's deep that's deep it's so relatable holy moly guacamole this thing is going
in yeah yeah them motherfuckers be saying uh i don't even like you know these girls some of them
be like they don't even fuck with the they they folks like that you know what i'm saying but yeah
that's crazy so um and then What's my favorite song
With my name on it
That's the only one
I didn't write down
What's it called
Kingpin Ghostwriter
What's your problem
So that
How did you name a song
Kingpin Ghostwriter
Man
You get it
I get it
I just want you to tell the people
No you get it
And take another shot
You get it
Take another shot
Um So you got You got the You always got the rich and take another shot. You get it. Take another shot.
So you got the... You always got the rich
drug dealers in the neighborhood
that don't do music.
They be on the run
eating like Nart.
They don't do music.
But they are up on the fashion.
They up on the jury.
And you look at some of the things they doing
and some of the things they saying,
and rap was, this been going back since L.A.
Emulator.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
You have, and you put some of that stuff in your music.
So in this song right here,
I was saying it sounded like a kingpin
been writing for me because of some of the things that I say, you know what I'm saying? Oh, I didn't catch that. I didn't catch that. Yeah saying it sounded like a kingpin been writing for me because of some of the things
that I say, you know what I'm saying?
Oh, I didn't catch that, I didn't catch that.
Yeah, it sounded like a...
Like that ghost writing you said?
Yeah, it sounded like a kingpin was writing,
if I had a ghost writer, this must be the...
This nigga must get a thousand bricks a week.
Or a thousand pounds, you know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
Sonny got excited.
Like, yeah, nigga, like, this a dude,
because you know what I'm saying, Sonny got excited. Like, yeah, nigga. Like, this a dude. Because you know what I'm saying?
It's just a nigga sitting back.
Man, man, them niggas in my neighborhood used to be kind of fat a little bit.
Medallion come out here.
You know what I'm saying?
Two, three girl, nice car.
I used to be like, I want to be fat one day.
Yeah.
That was all I was thinking. Man, that was. That nigga's got a big gold thing on his, you know what I'm saying?
Mm-hmm.
And they just, niggas ain't thinking about music.
They won't even, at this time, won't even go in.
I'm trying to tell niggas give me something on the music.
They not really like on that.
But yeah, so that's where the idea came from.
They got Lil Baby on there. And- yeah, so that's where the idea came from. They got Lil Baby on there.
Sound great on there, too.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I got your name on there.
Let me just tell you something.
I've been rhyming for 22 years.
I think I've rhymed Nori with every other word in the world.
Because of your accent.
Slight accent.
You can rhyme hurry with Nori and make it make sense.
Holy shit.
I was hating.
That's how you know
I went back
to your artist mode.
You know,
I love the record.
Man,
this shit don't even
fucking rhyme.
How did he do that?
How did he do that?
He got hyped.
He got hyped.
I love it.
Listen,
but when I thought about it,
when I went back
into my artist mode,
I said,
damn,
this nigga,
I've rhymed Nori
with every other word.
Like,
I actually do that. You know, I say my name a lot. nigga, I've robbed Nori with every other word. Like, I actually do that.
You know, I say my name a lot.
I've never robbed Nori.
I'm a style bender, man.
You got a bad, you got a bad, you got a bad style bender.
See, only the motherfuckers that knows, you know, vocal tone and the way to spit, that, that was a perfection right there.
Because I'm like, this nigga robbed Harvey and Nori.
And it sounds right.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
It's very architectural.
Very architectural.
This is the next thing.
Yes, you know I make up words.
This is the next thing.
When Homie said, he said, but that's blood.
But that family.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's too deep.
Because I didn't know.
I thought, again, I got this written down.
I thought this was funny.
Man, this shit deep as hell.
What is the difference
between blood and family?
Can you just...
Oh, man.
Damn, I'm going too deep.
Is it literal
or it means something deeper?
Shit, I didn't mean to go there.
This is where my notes are ready
before you said it.
But that's deep blood
and family.
That blood.
I thought you said it.
He said,
that blood,
but that family. Damn. He said, that's deep blood in our family. That blood. That's how he said it. He said, that blood, but that family.
Damn.
He said, I stopped between two walls.
I like to say that.
I want to meet that nigga one day.
That nigga talk.
I just want him to say, what's up, Norm?
My God.
Oh, man.
Let me see.
Let me see.
See, how do I touch on this?
Mm. Let me see, see, how do I, how do I touch on this?
So I had a, so my studio got shot up.
A lot of things going on in the studio, sir.
Yeah, my studio got shot up and not the other, this, is another whole nother time.
Not 54?
Yeah, 55, 40.
Studio got shot up and somebody died, right?
Oh, man.
God bless, we didn't know.
Yeah.
It's a whole nother situation.
Somebody died.
Right.
But people from the studio felt like somebody knew that that was going to happen, basically.
You know what I'm saying?
Somebody knew that that was going to happen.
And I think what the skit is trying to say is that when somebody's actually, like, when somebody's a relative of you,
like, really like some blood, and when somebody's like, like, when somebody's a relative of you, like, really like some blood.
And when somebody is like family.
That's being stuck between two walls.
Because when you grow up, if you've been around somebody so long, like a friend or whatever so long, you consider them family.
You consider them a loved one. You consider them, you consider them
a loved one.
You know,
you call their mama one.
You know what I'm saying?
Might be closer
to some of your real family.
I'm telling you.
Right.
Especially if you're from,
if you're from the hood,
you know what I'm saying?
And so,
that skit is,
is really just telling
a small piece of
blood
and family,
which it seemed like
it's all the same thing,
but what he was trying to say
was,
yeah,
what he was trying to,
that's,
did that clarify
something?
Yeah,
because I thought
it could have been
like our Chicago homies
that would say
he's another gang,
but he's actually my family.
That probably,
see,
that could
Atlanta
We have gangs now
But like
Chicago
LA
A lot of these places are
Like they
They kind of
They have that
They've been on that
Yeah they've been on that
For us
First of all
I'm from a neighborhood
Where it be
It really be your own people
It just
No one
Just comes in
And
Right
It's really like You're a just comes in and it's really like,
you're a homeboy.
Really.
It's really like,
you know what I'm saying?
And so,
that skit was just
explaining the difference
between somebody
that's like
your descendant
of your grandmama
and blah, blah, blah
versus, you know,
somebody you went to school with
or graduated with
and played ball with
or hustled with
and traveled with all this and that's what that was like some street shit okay a million dollars
worth of game featuring four two dub four two dub what was your mind that's another one getting good
feedback so when i went to the little baby studio to get the kingpin ghostwriter done
um doug was there you know what i'm saying? And so we did the song.
I did both of them at Lil Baby's studio.
I probably need to go back over there.
He got some good vibes over there.
So y'all niggas be using each other's studio and all that.
That's why y'all went.
Yeah, I pulled up on them, you know what I'm saying?
And actually, we did that song, and then Lil Baby put up another song,
and I went in and did a verse and LaBaby ended up like either
leaving or taking a nap
or something. He ended up leaving or something and then
Doug was there and he came in
and we ended up doing that song together and
it's dope to have both of them on the album.
And you said the FN was your hype man.
You saw my EFN?
What's the FN?
FN is a
gun. It's a plastic I think his slang is different. It's a FN? FN is a gun. It's a plastic.
I think his slang is different.
Yeah.
It's a plastic gun?
Yeah, it weighs like less than two pounds.
Yeah, yeah.
3D model joint gun?
But it shoots.
It shoots like rifle bullets.
So it's a handgun that shoots rifle bullets.
And they don't even make the plastic ones anymore.
I still got a plastic one.'t even make the plastic ones anymore.
I still got a plastic one,
but they don't make plastic ones anymore.
Early on in my career,
when you can't afford security,
you can't afford really a lot of that stuff,
you have to kind of protect yourself.
So I was really, like I've done shows in those small country towns
where you got to perform on top of the bar and everybody
Looking at you crazy. I definitely had a pistol on
Dirt rolls going down Mississippi and you know some little some little you know some little towns and shit like that them boys looking
Like you you know sweet
Now I'm having it on why I'm doing my song On me Right Yeah Okay, how about Free BG?
Free BG
BG, I actually knew BG
Before I knew Lil Wayne
Wow
Yeah, people don't know that
I got some footage of him
In 5540
You know what I'm saying?
Kicking it up
I met BG actually
I guess when they put him
Whatever happened with them
And Hot Boys
And he came to Atlanta
He was
Just breaking up?
Yeah He ended up coming to Atlanta You was just breaking up yeah he ended up
coming to Atlanta um you know I'm saying I was I was um Hot Boys is one of the reason why I started
rapping anyway that was one of the reasons and I'm saying I was which Hot Boys remember there
was two Hot Boys there was Hot Boys that was on No Limit and the Hot Boys that was on definitely
the ones on Cash Money yeah like it was definitely Wayne, BG, Turk, and Juvenile.
And on that record,
you said you bring your own weed
on the plane.
You don't trust other states?
You don't think
other niggas got it?
I just,
I try not to have that to be,
I try not to worry about that.
You know what I'm saying?
That'll be another thing
to have to worry about.
What, to get it bud?
Like, see what this is.
You had a problem in San Francisco
since then. You brought your old weed. I remember that.
Well, that ain't... Not even that.
Before that, it's just...
It ain't...
You can bring your own shit.
Yeah.
And trust...
Just let y'all know, TSA, I do not have
any weed on me.
Oh, I was going to think of that.
What a terrible thing.
What was it thinking like that?
It's in Norrie's bag.
Yeah.
So, by the way, I'll give it a hundred.
I'll bring a half ounce.
I'll bring a half ounce.
He's crazy with it, man.
I'm going to give it a hundred.
No, I'll give it a hundred.
International flights and all.
I got my medical card.
No, you should do some crazy.
If I was to bring pills and I'm on pills and I'm a medical patient, they can't tell me nothing.
What the fuck is the difference?
I have a medical card.
I'm ready to argue.
You ready to argue?
Let's go.
Them folks going to send your ass off through there.
Who are you?
What you think?
That's the reason why I stick with a half ounce.
A half ounce is like, come on, man.
A half ounce ain't no real prison time.
Half ounce ain't no real thing.
They really going to pull you over for that.
You know that's some nigga shit trying to...
Look at that shit like,
this may be a day.
I'll be out at night.
I'll be out.
I might.
Might go to...
Might, you know,
might be a day for this.
Nigga be doing like that.
I feel you.
No, a ticket.
Man, come on. You know, gonna, at least they gonna do it.
Just give me a ticket.
You know, you know Hov.
You know what, LA, they don't even check your bags at all.
They don't?
Yeah, you didn't know that?
LA, it's a rule now.
Yeah, but it's all legal there, man.
They don't even, they don't even.
The state that's receiving you is the ones that.
They don't check which ones, the under or the over?
The under.
What?
I didn't know that.
The under.
That's crazy.
We might not wanna put this card. because we're checking everybody's back. No, LA says it.
I know, but LA won't check if you mean getting there or coming from there.
They ain't checking.
They ain't checking, cause LA ain't checking.
They got the dog right there that be trying to scare niggas.
The dog is for bombs.
Don't fuck up the guy. Someone's going to listen to you and be like,
oh, coming from LA, going to the wrong city.
Yeah, the dog.
Man, dog.
The dog usually is a co-cat.
A water.
Let me get a water.
All right, so 10 bracelets.
10 bracelets, yep.
Featuring Youngboy Never Broke Again.
You got on 10 bracelets right now? Yeah, but I usually have them on ten on one hand.
On one hand?
Yeah.
Okay.
But, you know, I had Liv last night.
I'm a little tardy.
Uh-huh, yeah, cool.
And I went to sleep with a lot of this shit on.
Right.
And took a shower with a lot of this shit on.
Because you remind me right now, I'm going to get you suckered.
Remember?
How do you take a shit with all that on?
You don't remember? Nobody remember I'm going to get you suckered. Remember? How are you taking shit with all that on? Nobody remember I'm going to get you suckered?
I do remember the move, but I think what stands out
on that is the shoes
and shit. That was with the shoes and shit.
Yeah, the goldfish? Goldfish, that was on there.
No, no, yeah, but remember
the
he comes back because the guy
died of too much gold chains.
And remember, at the beginning, he had all the gold chains.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, I'm saying, that's definitely, we in the millions right there.
I mean, he's taking a shot with it.
It's got to be.
I'm not taking this shit off.
Well, not the big stuff like this.
Like, this stuff, but, like, the little stuff.
Right.
The bracelets and stuff.
Yeah.
But, yeah, as I look, I'm definitely in the millions
currently right now, in this moment right now.
We know we're going to make some noise for that.
Okay, hold on.
I'm moving this album.
Okay, and then we're going to get to Quick Time with Slam,
and then that's where it turns up.
Now, it's Lost Kings, right?
It's not Last Kings, it's Lost Kings,
right?
So I can see it.
Are you
counting? You counting your money right now?
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
I love this shit.
Oh, I forgot about you.
Oh, man, I forgot about you.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
Lost Kings.
Lost Kings. Lost Kings. Lost Kings.
Lost Kings.
Lost Kings.
Yeah, I'm pushing an M for sure.
Lost Kings.
I speak on some of this shit on my verse in there, too.
About some studio shit.
You know what I'm saying?
The studio feel like the new hood out there.
No, it was.
Yeah, it was. A lot of shit was going down in the studio.
But break this down, the Lost Kings.
Lost Kings, Lost Kings, yeah,
it got Durkee on there. It's just about
losing
a lot of the young brothers early.
You know what I'm saying? It kind of
touches on that. And a lot of
senseless, I guess,
killings. It's the song on the album
where I think has the most, you know, substance.
I like to kind of have something to cling on to.
I've been getting a lot of great feedback.
And then I got my artist on there,
Sleepy Rose on the hook.
He did his thing.
That's your artist?
Yeah.
Oh, okay, that's dope.
Yeah, he did his thing on there.
So he about to drop a project.
So I'm trying to, you know,
make someone else a millionaire too
that's one of my aspirations as well.
That's fire. That's fire. That's fire. Let's make some noise for that guy.
The next song I thought it was Caymans but it's Cay-Mens.
Well it's Cay-Mens. It's Cay-Mens.
Could you drink Caymans?
No I'm talking about the islands.
Cayman Islands. The Cayman Islands.
It's how do you... Caymang. It's alligator or. The islands. Cayman Islands. The Cayman Islands, right? Cayman.
It's alligator or crocodile in Spanish.
Caymans Island.
Caymans, right?
Caymans.
Cayman.
Come on.
That's in Spanish.
That's what it means.
But Caymans.
Yeah, sure.
Not Caymans.
Caymans is the red wine.
I was like.
But, but, but, but, but, but you always put me down on the wine.
So you got, you know what I'm saying?
So, but that ain't, that ain't that.
But now since we talking about that, we got to, you know what I'm saying? So, but that ain't, that ain't that. But now since we talking about that,
we got to,
you know what I'm saying?
You're going to have to remix this.
You got to drink some of that Caymus,
by the way.
You got to put me down.
That's that good shit.
You got to put me down.
I scream in the car
when I,
because I've been listening to the album
and I realized I didn't know
the names of the songs.
I knew the songs,
but I didn't know the names.
And when I saw that,
I said Caymus.
And I said,
oh shit,
this nigga drinking Caymus?
This nigga really is there.
And then I realized it's the Caymus Islands.
But it's both.
It's both together.
But Sway Lee, what made you want to work with Sway Lee?
I'm a fan of Sway Lee.
I think he really dope.
You know what I'm saying?
Mike Will, my brother, we've been rocking since the No Lie days.
Oh, that's right.
Sway Lee signed Mike Will.
And he came to my crib in Cali, and we knocked that out together, actually.
Some of this stuff, I was in the studio with some of these guys. So it'd be, you know a lot of the stuff
is literally like digital,
because we can't be in the same room,
but that was one of those things.
But we did a couple records that day
and the chemistry was there.
And I just like what he adds to the game
and to my record really.
And you know what's crazy,
you said you should never be famous and broke
yeah but i said it humbly at the end you heard me like you heard me like not try to shit on
nobody but just really try to i think if you if you got some type of fame yeah whether old new
whatever you gotta figure out some kind of place to put that where you hustle the fame yeah to to
where you can get it out.
You know what I'm saying?
To where you, you know what I'm saying?
How can you use that right there?
To like, if this show end today.
Right.
All right.
We know Nori.
F, you know, are you going to fall off?
He saved all his money.
You know what I'm saying?
Are you going to fucking, is this, like, no, seriously. No, no, his money. You know what I'm saying? Are you going to fucking, is this,
is this,
like,
no, seriously.
No, no, absolutely not.
You get what I'm saying?
Like, can a,
can a,
can a motherfucker
figure it out?
You know,
can you figure it out?
But it made me think,
because do you know
how many famous,
there is famous people
that's broke?
Yeah,
but you,
it's on your resume
that you did this before.
You really,
like,
what you,
I was fucking
on the Jeffersons or whatever the fuck you did, whatever you did this before. You really like, I was fucking on the Jeffersons
or whatever the fuck you did.
Whatever you did.
But like,
how can you,
but what happens
to these guys
who's famous
but they ain't really
working 10 years?
They can't get back
their uniform.
So a lot of the black actors
from my opinion,
I don't know if they get
a lot of roles
to work a lot, right?
Example.
But that's an example.
I'm just, take taking period of time.
No, I'm just looking at black.
We all know the same kind of black actors.
Denzel, we probably can't name 10 or 5.
Willis?
How about Willis?
From Different Strokes?
From Different Strokes, yeah.
Like Willis, yeah.
I think it's the young people.
Nick's like, what the fuck is Willis?
What's his real name though?
Todd Bridges.
Todd Bridges.
He gonna be Willis For the rest of his life
I'm sorry
But
But
Man
You motherfucker
You got Lifetime
You got all this
You got all these little
Yeah you can flip that
I just feel like
If you don't try
Then you won't get a result
Especially now more than ever
Yeah I just think now
Content and movies
And streaming is like
Especially in that world
Right
Yeah
You gotta be able to find a sack.
One of them, you know what I'm saying?
If you've been on something,
I just, this is my personal opinion,
I could be wrong and if I'm wrong, I apologize.
But I just think, even if you was an old rapper
or something like this, you gotta be able to
maybe go into a school, be a professor.
Like there's no way Vanilla Ice is not still getting bags.
No, he getting bags.
He getting bags.
He getting bags.
MC Search was just here earlier.
He still getting the bags.
MC Search was just here earlier.
Yeah, he was here earlier.
He still getting the bags.
Man, you got to figure that shit out.
No, you're right.
You're absolutely right.
Yeah.
Even if you got to use that to get in something outside of music, you used to do music.
Now you got people putting these little, these VC, you know,
funds that, you know,
together with.
You got to be,
man, I used to listen
to your music.
What you got going on?
Let me put a hundred,
let me,
you can't just be out here.
Well, podcast is helping
the retired rapper.
The problem is,
is every rapper is doing it.
So it's saturated.
Everybody,
not just rappers.
Everybody's doing it.
Everybody is.
Ever since quarantine.
Okay, let me ask y'all
some questions. What's your thoughts on, what's your thoughts on everyone doing podcast? They are sons. Everybody Not just rappers Everybody's doing it Everybody Ever since quarantine Okay let me ask y'all Some questions
What's your thoughts
On everyone
Doing podcasts
They are sons
No no
I wouldn't say that
We can't say that
For everybody
No man
95% I can say it for
You gotta stand on this
95% I can say it
You gotta stand on this
Listen
What you going
What you riding with
Listen listen I want everybody to do it Go ahead and do it I love everybody Take it You know me Go do it You know me I can say it all. You got to stand on his business. What you going to ride with? Listen, listen.
I'm riding.
I want everybody to do it.
Go ahead and do it.
I love everybody.
You know me.
Go forward.
Go do it.
You know me.
I've been getting money.
I'm good.
But let's be clear.
When we started this, the only person that was before us
was Ice-T.
No, there was a couple of people.
There was Combat Jack.
I'm talking about rapper.
I'm talking about rapper.
OK, but we talking about hip hop.
I feel like his question was, how do you feel?
Well, all the rappers.
Are you saying just rappers? Let Norah talk. Yeah, yeah. Let Norah question was how do you feel?
But every respect I think Joe started Joe but I started a little Joe boys Yeah, and then that was that and I would be such a sound and he's got a rabbit now
But I still think it's really okay. We give it to we give it to them
We give it to the one up all do respect to everybody. It's not a rapper. No, but I still think it's really cool. We give it to them. We give it to them.
But with all due respect to everybody, people that came before us, I'm not going to lie.
This is real talk.
This is not me being cocky.
This is me being real.
We the niggas that made it look cool.
We opened the door for sure.
We made it look cool because niggas, that was some nerd shit.
Podcasting was nerds.
Niggas were looking.
Even my peers was like, you podcasting?
Nigga, you ain't that smart.
You asking niggas questions and shit? Yeah, you asking niggas questions. You on the internet heard you say these ain't no motherfucking nerd
Whoever you are
You probably not a nerd use probably into whatever you into but I you probably not a nerd you was probably into whatever
you into but I'm saying predominantly at that time when people wasn't checking
for it it was it was it was a nerd thing it was like people yeah it was just
gonna realize the ill shit about podcasting is that app is already on
your iPhone mmm it's over so this device been around. Podcasting wasn't new.
Carl Podcasting wasn't new.
It wasn't popular.
I'm thinking 2 Chainz got me hyped.
Yeah, man.
You got to pop those shit sometime, man.
Yeah, that's right.
We got to give you your flowers too, man.
We're not that humble.
We're going to give you your flowers too, man.
And this is probably, and I gave the album so much love.
It's probably my least favorite song on the album.
Okay, no problem.
I love it.
For two reasons.
The name of the record.
And then the actual record is dope.
Everyone did their job. Everyone did it.
But it felt like,
and this is me being honest, it felt like it wasn't
needed.
I'm talking about Vlad TV.
I didn't like the name of Vlad TV.
I'm being honest. So maybe I just
didn't like it because of the name. The name, yeah. I don't know the name of Vlad TV. Okay. I'm being honest. So maybe I just didn't like it because of the name.
The name, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know if Vlad liked it either because there was a skit on there and he didn't clear it.
Oh.
But it's okay.
Okay.
I still, you know, I ain't got to.
But the Vlad TV came from the hook saying that, you know, basically the concept of the song.
People were snitching on each other.
Yeah, basically the concept of the song is what's going on.
It's one of my favorite on the album
Actually, because it's what
It's what's going on
People want you to know
They so gangsta
So whatever they into
That they would literally
Telling themselves
They would literally
Telling themselves
I mean, have you seen
The niggas that get shot
And record themselves
As they get shot
I'm on my way to
Like, this shit done got so dark and deep.
Or you see the nigga that got the gun in the video
that got the body on it.
That's that, you know, it's just a lot of things on here
that you know, we, I would say I'm from an era,
but I can honestly say that we're from an era where,
like you said, people thought you was lame
from doing a podcast because it's like Man I found my
I'm still gonna stay on track
I found my little
I found a
What's the name of this camera
Fucking
It's not a GoPro
Flip cam
Flip cam
Flip cam okay
My nigga
From like 07, 08 right
And I'm going through my studio
55, 40
And the whole studio
Everybody in there
Motherfucker
If I show, you know,
I got some good footage.
They moving away.
But as I, you know,
we're in the studio like,
oh, man, shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Ain't even no workout.
Right, right.
But niggas just like, bro,
they just know that ain't dirty.
Niggas, period.
Just like, you know what I'm saying?
You know, and that's, you know,
but now,
people have been conditioned
that they don't give a fuck.
Now it's the exact opposite, man.
People go on there and they intentionally,
intentionally they'll disrespect you, man,
you know what I'm saying?
Or they'll, you know...
You know what's so funny, shit?
2J's part, people cut you off.
The other day I see my homie,
we had nothing to talk about
because his whole life is on Instagram.
Yeah, yeah.
Nigga, I know you're good.
Anything you said, I said, yeah, I know.
I like the picture.
Yeah, yeah.
We had nothing to talk about.
You know, I just got back from Jamaica.
I saw that.
Yeah, I saw that.
I saw that, bro.
I actually got mad at somebody about that shit.
Man, I made this major investment into this company, man.
And it was taking a long time to like, for everything to get going, and you know, I was following
the guy, and he was just posting all these
pics of...
Oh, he was feeling like Fyre Festival?
Nah, it was a real true, it was a
really good investment, but you know, I was just
impatient at the time, because I was told one thing,
and I should know, I've been in business a long time,
but, man, I called, and I said,
man, look, man, no disrespect,
man, I don't give a fuck about American Airlines, my nigga.
Man, fuck the private shit, man.
What's up with my money, man?
I now know your whole family, man.
What's up with my money?
You don't need to post nothing until this shit clear.
Like, you know, I probably was Out of control
At that moment
At that moment
That I'm thinking about
And I apologize for that
Oh shit
Oh okay
Now
Boom
Ended it out
If you want
Featuring Jacquees
Yeah Jacquees
He's a
A very
Confident
Young Atlanta R&B singer Jacquees. Yeah, Jacquees. He's a very confident, young Atlanta R&B singer.
Jacquees is from Atlanta?
Yeah.
Yeah, he's from Atlanta, man.
And I love the dude, man.
He do his thing.
And we did that.
I've actually been sitting on that song for over a year now.
And he had been, you know, telling me we need to put it out.
But we shot a video for it and everything.
And that was something else on
the album that that wasn't on the rest of it it was some you know it was some something for the
ladies and i ended with that that was that that was all yeah thank you man i told you man you got
the album in a year i'm i'm standing on i say this when you around and when you're not around okay
when you're not around is they say it's sometimes not about what you say in front of the person,
it's about how you act when the person's not around.
And I stand on that.
This whole year, it was like refreshing.
It's like as COVID started to lift and people started to come outside, that album was the
album I wanted to ride.
Thank you.
And my new Maybach, I said, huh.
That's a nice Maybach.
That's the one you had.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I had yeah in there. You had yeah in there. Yeah That's the one you had. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had yay in there.
Yay, yay, yay.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Yay, yay, yay.
I saw that.
Okay.
You know what the funny shit is?
You know, I can't ask a nigga for no Yeezys.
I just can't fix my face to ask that, right?
So every pair of Yeezys you see me with, I paid for.
The ones you got on now?
I paid for them.
Wow.
I thought for sure you got those this morning.
So the nigga hit me. The nigga hit me, James. The ones you got on now? I paid for them. Wow. I thought for sure you got those this morning.
So the nigga hit me.
The nigga hit me, James.
He said, what's your address?
I was like, oh, shit.
I finally made the easy list. And he was like, because I want to come to the crib to hang out.
I was like, oh, shit.
I'm not on the easy list.
Fuck that.
I want the shoes.
I want the shoes.
Nah, he will do that.
Yeah, yeah.
I just can't ask.
There's something wrong with me, my nigga.
But, boom.
We ran through the aisle.
Now this is time for one of our favorite parts of the show.
It's everybody's favorite part of the show.
What is it, y'all?
No, I don't know.
I know nothing.
It's called Quick Time with Slime.
Quick Time with Slime.
It's not quick sometimes.
Sometimes it's not quick.
Where is it?
It's in the group.
You weren't doing this when I first came in.
No, we perfected this shit, nigga.
We done turned it all the way up.
Where is it? In the group chat?
Oh, you and EFN?
Okay, there.
Let me find it.
Yeah, can you send it?
Because I can't find it.
I don't know which one.
So it's a simple game.
Boom.
This is where the shots come in.
I'm going to give you two choices.
You can say one or the other,
or you can say neither,
or if you say both,
if you say both,
you take a shot. If you say both, you take a shot.
If you say neither, you take a shot.
Yeah, the politically correct answer is a shot.
The politically correct answer is always a shot.
But we're going to give you a multiple choice.
So let me start here. Okay.
I know you had time to do it.
You didn't tell them another part real quick?
Yeah.
We drink with you, though.
We drink with you, yeah.
No, no, no, I didn't tell y'all a very important part.
Okay.
I'm not a drinker.
Well, today you are.
But let me tell you the story.
I'm not a drinker.
I started drinking maybe four years ago when my restaurant was open.
I started.
I was getting my red wine.
They started calling me damn near a wuss because I wasn't drinking.
So now I do take a couple of shots,
but if I just had to stand on it right now,
I'm already like.
You good, don't worry about it.
You're going to do little shots, don't worry about it.
Man, your fans are going to love it.
Muy poquito?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can do pequeñitos.
Dos cardenas, see?
You know, you got no look, you got any kind of plug,
you got to be able to understand
Especially when the floor put the little I'm a little buddy on the phone. I don't know no
All top I don't like the first one I'm gonna drink when you do shots
I'm a drink when you got with it Jeff me whiskey on your meniscus. What is a
How you say on this mantle? Yeah, uh-huh. How you say it? Oh, you can't talk about it
right now.
Yeah, but you know,
it's here, but it ain't here.
Yeah, I got you.
You know what I'm saying?
We on the other side.
Nigga, I'm home.
Well, he don't really care
about the whiskey,
but it's okay.
I don't know yet.
I don't know yet.
I need a good whiskey then.
I need a good whiskey then.
You want a whiskey?
I need, nah, nah.
Shit, I need something.
I need me a beverage,
you know what I'm saying?
And that,
like if you paying attention, you know what I'm saying? And that, like if you paying attention,
you know what I'm saying?
If you licking,
this drink chumps,
you should be licking.
You know what I'm saying?
I love what Diddy got going on.
I love what Hope got going on.
That's right.
What Rose got going on.
Shit,
Tony want to have something going on too.
That's right.
You know what I'm saying?
Link in the bio.
You know what I'm saying?
Read,
read right here. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. That was hard. That was hard. Okay, on just right that's not saying link in the bio yeah I'm saying read okay so I
don't like this off top I decided movie gone but you don't say it though it's
my why not no it's evident what he gonna say on this one Kanye or Pharrell as far
as what?
It's whatever criteria. Whatever criteria you want.
It could be anything.
How about you?
Okay, I knew that.
Trick Daddy or Juvenile?
I'm going to go with Juvenile.
Juvenile.
Juvenile.
I think you're going to have to be careful on this one.
Cardi B or Nicki Minaj?
It would be Nicki.
Illmatic or Ready to Die?
See, it ain't really hard for me because I have records with Nicki and
plaques with Nicki I haven't worked with Cardi B before.
It's my producers who make these.
Yeah, no, but I'm just saying, see.
It's their fault.
Let me just, see, and this is another thing.
Uh-huh.
This is another thing, too.
Just go ahead.
Okay, all right, cool, cool.
Room got too quiet.
I'm right here, you know what I'm saying?
Yo, listen, listen, when we speak up girls, it's very sensitive on this show.
So you notice how quiet I got?
I don't agree or disagree with nothing when it comes to females on this show anymore.
Because they will call you and cuss you out.
Did I say cuss?
Yeah.
You show your age right there.
It's cursed.
That boy been down south.
Yo, word. What the fuck is that doing's cursed. That boy been down south. Yo, Herb, what the fuck is that doing?
That boy been down south.
Yeah!
I ain't never said that in my life.
All right, Illmatic or Ready to Die?
Take a shot between.
Take a shot?
Take a shot for that.
You can't pick.
Or can you?
Let him answer, man.
I just want to take a shot.
Yeah, we'll take a shot.
Let's take a shot here.
I'm going to throw this. But, you know, I fought with Nas real strong.
Why?
Nas and Virgo and that shit.
Salo.
That shit.
I need them little bitty glasses like y'all.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There you go.
Here, here, here.
Yeah, Port Light.
It's a long game. Port Light. There you go. That's it. You can yeah, yeah. Yeah, Port Light. It's a long game.
Port Light.
There you go.
That's it.
That's it.
You can do that.
You can do that.
Oh, that saved me right there.
Right there, right there, right there.
All right.
And he's sipping his shot,
so it's a whole different shot for him.
Oh, yeah.
We sipping.
I can sip mine.
No, I don't know.
That was a double.
That's why.
No, I was snapping.
Okay.
Gucci or Jeezy?
Take a shot. Yeah, I'm going to I was snapping. Okay. Gucci or Jeezy? Um...
Take a shot.
Yeah, I'm gonna take a shot.
Yeah.
That's smart.
Salute.
Salute.
Cheers, cheers, cheers.
Wow.
Y'all was on the Street Legends tour, right?
Yeah, we are right now.
Yeah.
And Ross and...
Fab and Trina.
But you ain't never seen like Jeezy and Gucci
just take a shot together one night?
No.
Maybe that was the wrong word to use.
Yeah, terrible.
Terrible language.
Have a drink.
Have a drink?
You should have said drink.
You know what I mean?
Drink a little something.
Let's just move on.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean that at all.
It only gets worse.
Drink started to flow. It wasn't that.
It wasn't that.
It wasn't that.
All right.
Dr. Dre or Puff Daddy?
Take a shot.
Take a shot.
Take a shot, okay.
All right, cool.
Cheers.
By the way, this is, hold on, I'm going to get my deli on already.
I drank mine.
This is James Cools.
I heard James Cool I this puff show this
I'm going puff. Yes. Okay. Okay. Oh, okay. Okay. I won't taking a shot for that
We're gonna take a shot for that my really on right now. I'm gonna pull boom man. Fuck. Mm-hmm
both call you phone to right? Yes, I
Don't know we gonna go with this one.
This might be hard for you.
Wayne or Drake?
Wayne.
Two Chains or Titty Boy?
Titty Boy.
Now, that's hard.
Taking a shot for that?
I'm going to take a shot.
I'm going to take a shot for that.
That's real. Hold on, hold on.
I'll take the rest of this.
They both icons.
Both of them niggas hard.
Both of them niggas hard.
Both of them niggas hard.
You knew what I was gonna say.
That's what I was gonna say.
Nah, they are.
Both of them are.
I mean, even with Drake and Wayne, though.
That Drake nasty.
Of course.
Wayne actually did a lot of good stuff.
I mean, I'm not gonna lie.
I mean, I'm not gonna lie.
I'm not gonna lie.
I'm not gonna lie.
I'm not gonna lie.
I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I mean even with Drake and Wayne though
Drake nasty
Wayne actually did
I tell this story
He did the Duffel Bad Boys
hook for free
At the time
You told us this last time
At the time
We didn't have the audience
we got so repeat it sir
This was at the time
when they was charging
$150,000
Baby was charging $150,000 To even get at a time when they was charging like... $150,000. Like, Baby was charging...
$150,000.
To even get to Wayne,
and then Wayne was charging
that same thing.
Yeah, it was a charge
to get before you get,
and then when you get,
it was a charge.
Oh, it was nasty out here.
It was nasty.
And, you know,
man, I'm talking about
I came to the neighborhood,
shot the video,
you know what I'm saying?
So my loyalty
gonna always be there because that literally,
you know, other things happen.
Yeah, helped change your life.
It helped change my life.
You know, I know.
Yeah, that's right.
It be that one, you know what I'm saying?
It be a whole bunch of things that got to go right,
but it's like that Big Bang was that one.
That was a crazy joint.
Scarface or Ice crazy joint Scarface ice cube Scarface
outcasts a UGK
okay Dolph or Nipsey? Take a shot. Take a shot.
Salute.
And rest in peace to them both.
Taking a shot anyways.
Yeah, taking a shot for them anyway.
Rest in peace to them both.
Mm-hmm.
Oof.
You know, I had Dolph on here, and I told Dolph,
you got to be careful in your own city.
You did?
Yeah, I told him that.
And what's crazy, the day I told him that. And what's crazy,
the day I told him that
was the day
Kinks died.
That's the reason
why I said that to him.
Who died that day?
Kinks.
Okay.
French Montana's boy.
Kinks, yeah.
Kinks, yeah.
So I told him that
because we had just
received news
that Kinks died
and I said to him,
it's actually footage of it,
I'll show it to you.
Okay.
It actually creeps me out
is because,
and I'm going to say this
to a lot of, you know,
the young,
like I be wanting to be
an OG to these niggas.
It's just that
I know how I thought
when I was 24.
I know how I thought
when I was 22
and getting millions.
Like I ain't want to speak
to the 40 fucking
four-year-old nigga
that's interviewing a nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
And especially,
they probably think,
you know,
I'm over the hill
or something like that.
But I be really wanting to give
these dudes advice, so when I see little, excuse me,
DaBaby, the minute I see DaBaby, I say,
yo, just in case, I'm here, you know what I mean?
I don't need a feature, I don't need an interview.
Like, just holler, I've been through what you've been through.
He lost his father and had a number one record.
I lost my father. We both did.
Remember, we talked about we went through that together, man.
That's right.
I totally forgot.
You was actually there for me when I lost my father.
Yes, yes.
That's right, motherfucker.
That's right.
That was 2012.
Yes, yes.
And so I be wanting to just give a game.
And a lot of the times, I be scared.
So it be me, too.
But it be sometimes the young dude's energy.
But if you out there, you coming up, you getting money, you want to, you know,
you want to holler at me, trust me.
I've been doing everything.
Y'all niggas been...
Is that your Roach?
Look at this nigga Roach.
Hold on.
His Roach is...
Look at his Roach.
That's it?
You don't need that no more?
Yo, look at this.
There's a lot of fellas out here.
Yo, yo, listen.
Yo, listen.
I ain't gonna lie.
He being Snoop right now.
He being Snoop.
Nah, Snoop ain't leave a whole block of roach.
That's a whole fucking joint.
Boy, there's a salad bag over here.
Holy shit, let's get through quick time.
Let's have it in one of them.
I go to my spot.
You know what I'm saying?
I leave.
They come to tell me, say, you know, the waitresses, they smoke your roaches when you leave.
I like that.
But by the way, those is not roaches.
Yeah that's a full on P-roll.
Those is cockroaches. Those is water bombs.
Those is pomelo bombs.
Those shit's flying away when you're rolling with it.
I want them niggas to be around me
and make niggas mad as hell.
They be like what the fuck you doing?
Bro that was a whole...
That shit gone.
Holy shit. OK.
Jada, kiss a five.
Boy, nasty.
Yeah, them a homeboys right there yeah let me get my shot ready
no more demo demo solo Jada bad mother solo cheers
solo cheers I wonder why he like north I don't know what I saw key come to mind
because it's a great fucking song and me and I were gaming there all right yeah A million dollars worth of games ain't nothing. All right.
Where we at?
ODB or Biz Markie?
ODB.
Juice or Boys in the Hood?
Boys in the Hood.
Source or XXL?
Hmm, you switched it.
Source, early.
Well, depending on what area you're talking about.
XXL, right now, I just did a photo shoot Friday.
Let me be clear.
I'm on the cover.
I'm about to be on the cover, so let me take on and let them.
I think you should take a shot for that, then.
No, I just took. Because you wasn't saying the source.
Because I thought, we talking about the five mics.
You remember when they were going to five mics?
You talking about the original source.
Yeah, that had you geeking.
That was the beginning. That had you geeking. That was the beginning.
That had you geeking.
That was the beginning of everything.
You know what I'm saying?
You remember that?
You feel that shit now.
I got four mics, baby.
I was outside.
For real?
That's hard.
Yeah.
That's hard.
Yeah, I got War Report got four mics.
N.R.E. got four mics.
Bro, that's a...
You know what that meant back then?
That was huge.
I wanted to kill myself.
Bro, you know what that shit meant back then?
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying? That's no longer like... That was a hip-hop bible at kill myself. Bro, you know what that shit meant back then? Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
That's no longer like the standard.
That was a hip hop bible at the time.
Yeah, bro.
And then, and then, and then, um.
How that shit depict if you gonna listen to it or not.
And if you go, that shit even control if you gonna like it or not sometimes.
If you got four mics or better, you was automatically gone.
And they put that half there, you'd be pissed.
That bitch be four and a half or three.
That's hard you got four though.
Yeah, I got four, I got four three times four though. Yeah, I got four three times.
Yeah?
Yeah, I got four for God's favorite too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's hard.
And you can't forget.
Oh no, sorry, I got four four times.
I got a reunion, a reunion too.
Yeah, I got four four times.
You know what I mean?
I mean, I was outside y'all niggas.
You know, I was outside.
These niggas be on the, and I gladly accept that.
I gladly accept being a podcaster.
And how big Unsigned Hype was.
Oh, Unsigned Hype.
How many people got signed off that shit?
I don't know.
No.
Maybe we was.
You had too much of a glorious career.
That was not the right answer.
No, I don't.
That means you did a lot of shit in your life.
I'm just remembering I done seen y'all niggas.
He didn't remember me.
Man, my gigabytes. I'm just remembering I've done seen to all niggas. He don't remember me, though. Jesus. Man, my gigabytes, they ain't the same.
I don't even like stores.
That means you never had a life, my brother.
Yeah, I don't store stuff that I think on the internet.
But the truth is, we didn't have this set at all.
Yeah, yeah.
We was in a different spot, like a block away,
right down the street.
It was in the brewery.
Right there.
It was right down there.
Oh, wow, wow, wow.
OK.
OK, that was dope.
OK, wait, where we at?
The sauce? No reality? Yeah, wait, where we at? The sword?
No reality?
Yeah, Biggie or Big Al?
Biggie.
Good.
All right.
You're MTV Raps or Rap City?
Oh, that's a good one.
Now,
once again,
I've been around long enough.
It's two different eras.
Are we talking about
Fab Five,
Freddie, MTV?
Or Ed Lover and Dr. Dre?
I would get on Ed Lover.
Those are both iconic.
Are we talking about that?
You know what I'm saying?
Or the basement?
Are we talking about Big Tickle Basement?
Big Tickle Basement.
Because this ain't the same.
Joe Clear, Joe Clear.
Big Les.
Are we talking about Uncut?
And you know what I'm saying?
This BET era.
BET Uncut?
These two different. No, but Uncut? Because these two different.
Nah, but Uncut isn't a part of this.
Okay, so we just saying Rap City.
So it's Yo!
MTV Raps or Rap City The Basement.
Let's put it that way.
Or The Basement with Tickle.
I don't know why that shit came in my head.
My older cousin, she used to watch that MTV shit.
That shit.
That shit.
Bum stickity bum stickity bum. Dazzle Facts.
Dazzle Facts.
That shit come on.
That motherfucker.
I remember that shit in my head.
We got to have Dazzle Facts on.
I'd probably say Rap City just because, you know, we probably be black and all that.
Dungeon Family
or Wu-Tang Clan?
That's a really good one
because I'm a huge
Wu-Tang fan,
but I'm going to say
Dungeon Family
because they from
Atlanta and Rico,
Rico Wade
is a fucking legend,
you know.
I would like to see
that versus.
That would be
really good.
Damn.
That would be crazy.
No, we need to do that. Yeah, that person. We need to make that happen. Yeah, that person would be really good. That would be crazy. Damn. That would be crazy.
No, we need to do that.
We need to make that happen.
Yeah, that'd be crazy.
We need to make that happen.
That would be dope.
I want my publishing, Trella.
You need a publishing.
Why would you get publishing?
I don't know.
I just want to...
Because we threw that idea in there.
Because I bet you...
You want to cut, but not publishing.
You need some.
You need some.
I want to publish.
I want residuals.
I want that today, because that nigga going to watch that for the rest of their life.
You want to roast it off the area. Yeah, yeah, I want that today, because that nigga gonna watch that for the rest of their life.
You want a roll of the area.
Yeah, yeah, I do.
Okay, blunts or paper?
Paper all day, man.
As you can see right here.
This is probably about a three-five.
I would smoke about...
That's paper?
Yeah, that's paper.
My paper come, you know, long.
The raw paper, it come like tissue paper,
and you can make it short or long as you want.
And I have a master roller and I have...
I got a master roller. You don't see my niggas?
They got about 35 and a...
We import him from Peru?
I flew a man from Peru.
He comes a llama.
He came in a llama.
He don't wanna do that.
He don't wanna do that.
Well, by the way, he got the Goyard blood holder.
Yeah, he don't wanna do that.
Fire.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh!
You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
When you leave the crib or whatever,
you got to leave the smoke.
Man.
3-5, 3-5.
That's a seven.
Y'all niggas,
this is what y'all niggas
buying the smoke
for two, three days.
And we can tell you
just leave it.
Yeah.
Oh, here's another one.
And we don't got smoke
cans right here.
We got no smoke gas.
Gabe took it all.
Gabe's got it.
He deserved it.
We almost got a 14 on you, like, already, you know what I'm saying?
Just, like, trying not to, like, oh.
So we just, like, but I ain't trying to, like, show out for nobody.
This is just my personal thing.
Hell, yeah.
I'm outside.
I'm outside. Me personally, look at that at that's what I smoke look at that that I was cool when we came in you know me
personally you know man ain't nothing wrong that's cute You know, all that for him. He was like, damn, these two J's are just cute. That was hard.
That's a cute blunt.
That was hard.
You know, I'm talking about the whole thing.
All three of them.
No, no, he said that's a cute blunt.
That'll make a cute blunt.
I got to relax.
I got to relax.
Performing or recording?
Take a shot.
Okay.
I respect that.
I love both of them.
That's really important.
Cheers.
I'll be on stage praying.
I'll be looking up at God.
I'll be saying, thank you, man.
And then I'll be in the studio, and I'll be on stage praying. I'll be looking up at God.
I'll be saying, thank you, man.
And then I'll be in the studio, and I'll be like, damn.
I'll be so excited to go to the studio because I don't know what I'm about to say next.
I'll be surprising myself.
Okay, take the shot.
Oh, are you watching?
Yeah, yeah.
But I felt like I was there, your album release party.
You pulled up in the truck. You felt like you was there? Yeah, because I was watching. I felt like I was there, your album release party. You pulled up in the truck.
You felt like you was there?
Yeah, because I was watching.
I forget who I was watching.
I don't know if it was Def Jam's account.
I was watching it, and they live streamed it.
I want to say something that's going to sound crazy.
But it felt like you were free.
Like, I don't know if that makes sense, because it just felt like you were free but I don't know if that makes sense because they just felt
like you would use did with the fuck you wanted to do like are you so free free
free like it was felt like this is you finally at the level where you doing
whatever the fuck you want to do when you want to do it how you want to do it
like and I'm saying I'm seeing this through the screen yeah like I'm seeing
this to people's Instagram,
my people at Def Jam
was obviously there.
And I looked,
and I seen you perform
at the all-black going,
shoulder-boat white people
with the truck.
But then you got on stage,
and your energy
and your posture
and everything,
it felt like you finally did,
everything you did
up until this point
made sense.
Am I making sense?
Yes, I'm at a point in my life where I'm very happy.
I am not consumed with any pressure at all from anything.
I am closing on another house in California tomorrow.
Congratulations.
I invested a quarter million into a company this morning
before I even brushed my teeth.
I'm in a spot now where I'm in like a little,
I would say like a little groove where I'm just I've been
I've been praying to be less selfish because I'm the only child naturally so a lot of the
resources and a lot of the things that I had I kind of held on to it right yeah even like
this may sound crazy,
but to this day, I still like hadn't gave my plug away.
Like I might need the nigga one day or something.
That's real shit.
I just like not like, like, come on, give me the,
like, no, nigga.
I'm sure your plug is not happy about that.
Yeah, yeah.
I just, you know, so I'm like,
I really had to be like, you know, you know,
please, like, you know what I mean?
So I'm trying to like help people.
So what I've been doing about like resources is I get a lot of opportunities to invest in a lot of.
My bad, my nigga, I can't get on.
I think I'm saying still.
You still giving up the problem, though, boy?
Yeah, just.
I'm sorry.
For niggas that know that.
That's serious.
And that's some ignorance.
You still got, you still got your piggy out. That's some ignorance. You got nine toes. Niggas, nigg I'm sorry. For niggas that know that... That's serious. That's some ignorant shit. You still got your piggy out.
That's some ignorant shit.
You got nine toes.
Nigga's not perfect.
That let you know.
I'm not perfect.
That let you know, like, bro,
no one's perfect yet.
You know what I'm saying?
We still, like...
Oh, shit.
Working.
Still working.
I'm still working on myself.
But, uh...
Yeah, remember what the fuck I was saying?
That's what...
No, but listen.
I think, and I don't know if you could agree
I think you will agree
Yeah
I know you don't quite remember
When we had you on Drink Chance before
But there is a difference in you
I could
I could see
Yeah
Like
Like a higher vibe
That you're on right now
Like you got
You got the
I got
I said
To me
The best thing Ye
Ever did
For me And you know you probably have something different,
he just showed me his freedom.
The nigga just do whatever the fuck he want to do, when he want to do it, and that fast.
Literally, he wanted to come to the crib, brought me to the juice bar.
That's my wife's juice bar right there.
Shout out to your wife. Yeah, it's not my juice bar. It's my wife's juice bar right there. Shout out to your wife.
It's not my juice bar. It's my wife's juice bar.
I've been so happy.
Shout out to Juicy Juice Bar.
So we came to the
juice bar and then
hey, you want to go eat some lunch?
And we just go eat lunch. And it's like
the crazy shit is
as simple as you think that is
do you know how hard that is to just do that with someone else?
So what I say is, that's what he taught me,
is just having freedom.
And when I seen you that night,
before me even being taught that by Ye,
I seen that in you.
Like, you just was like, you went to the city,
because it was in Atlanta, your party,
and you performed, and it just
felt like you finally felt like, I'm here.
This is it.
This is it.
I'm not the king of the city.
I'm a king in the city.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Definitely.
Full of other kings.
But I'm definitely a king.
I'm on Atlanta, Mount Rushmore.
I'm asking, did you feel like that?
That night?
That night and before that. Yeah, man, I've been very fortunate.
I've been very blessed.
I've lived and recreated and redesigned myself many
times, man. And I've met
a lot of people along the way
inside the music industry and outside
the music industry.
And I don't take anything for granted.
It's just so many things that...
That's what it is.
Go ahead, bro.
I was going to say, it seems like people
reach a certain level and they acquire humble confidence.
Yeah, no, I'm super-duper confident, and I don't believe in a glass ceiling.
I don't believe I'm even at a certain apex yet, because, you know, one record for a nigga like me ain't going to nothing but like add gasoline to the flames that i already
have but i'm not like my flame hasn't died at all you know what i'm saying i'm i'm probably this
year alone i've probably done over 20 shows i don't even know we're in march yet you know i'm
saying probably at least 15 shows so i'm still someone that promoters think about when they're
trying to get people in the building and also to do you know some some
entertainment so i don't take anything for granted i love what i do i try not to complain
gotta get mad at me if i complain i ain't got time ain't nobody gonna care anyway i try not to
cry over nothing i can't control i try to make sure my wife happy i try to make sure my wife happy. I try to make sure my kids happy.
I try to make sure my mom happy.
Everybody else can kind of like take the wing
and I try to take care of them too.
You know what I'm saying?
Goddamn, make some noise for that.
That live resi is hitting me right now.
Yeah, you better only smoke half of that shit.
See, that's what I'm saying. You got to do all you gotta do all that y'all put all type of ad in there
I got that live resi in here I ain't gonna lie to you ain't nothing wrong with live right ain't that some good stoner shit like this right here
yeah
damn Boris insult you up
you know what I mean
you know how I get up
you know how I get up Boris looking like he's at Coachella, yeah! He gonna let you know in one minute, it doesn't matter, he can't wait to hit that motherfucker. Go on and gargle that motherfucker.
You ever seen them niggas smoke that?
Alright, you ready?
Yeah, I'm with you fam.
Kodak Black or Lil Baby?
Kodak Black or Lil Baby?
Ooh, both.
I like both of them boys.
Let's go, let's go.
I'm with you fam.
Kodak Black or Lil Baby?
Kodak Black or Lil Baby?
Kodak Black or Lil Baby?
I like both of them boys.
Let's go, let's go.
I'm with you fam.
I'm with you fam.
I'm with you fam.
I'm with you fam.
I'm with you fam.
I'm with you fam. I'm with you fam. I'm with you fam. I'm with you fam. I'm with you, fam. Kodak Black or Lil Baby?
Kodak Black or Lil Baby?
Ooh, both.
I like both of them.
Let's go.
Let's go, man.
All right.
Let's go.
Hold on.
No, no, no.
You got to pull up.
You can't cheat the drink, Chance.
Because there's a nigga in Oklahoma, Nebraska that say, he didn't have nothing in his car.
Oklahoma, Nebraska?
You know, I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
I'm protecting you and your fans.
Because there's a nigga there that's going, I'm going to feed on that. Because there's a nigga there that's going to be on that.
Yeah, okay.
Man, that shit is going to go viral.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly, come on.
You know, you know, you know.
Man, y'all niggas drink too much.
Hey, man.
We made it.
I can't, I'm trying.
Don't y'all got a smoke champ?
Y'all ain't got a smoke champ?
We got smoke champs, yes.
We got smoke champs.
I'm trying to do smoke champs.
I'm doing smoke champs over here. No, no. Smoke champs are a whole other show, champs Oh, no, no, that's a whole other show. Those are also whole show another show. Yeah, they go to the smoke chance
What that is yo, oh they're paying them off for a pass
And you lose I like I like it change you getting loose man you outside man, okay
Let's do that And you get loose. I like it, Chang. You getting loose, man. You outside, man. I ain't doing too much. That's good.
All right, cool. Let's do that.
Look at mine and look at yours. That's okay.
Come on. Let's salute.
I'm going to start watching you like you watch me.
Come on. Let's go.
It doesn't mean nothing unless you got to drink it.
Okay, I know, bro.
I got to watch you because I'm trying not to do that with no nigga. Okay, no, it's okay.
You do that eye contact,
I ain't fucking with you.
Okay, you ready?
Okay, Ross or Fadjo?
Rose.
Magic City or Onyx?
Magic.
Radio or podcast?
Huh.
Radio or podcast?
Which one is the best or which one I listen to?
How do you compare them?
I don't know.
Podcasts don't even play music though
We can if we want we do what the fuck we want
All right Nori You know the answer. I got you, man.
Y'all look at how old I was when he told me.
There's no way I would've went against that guy.
I felt that Puffy was looking like that
when he hit me by this liquor.
Okay, can you describe, you know, for the people?
Because he makes
one main sense
if you a tequila drinker
and you out there
drinking tequila
you drinking
Casa Zoo
you drinking
Casamigos
you drinking
1942
and that
1942 ain't never
trying to be all up
in your videos
he ain't get you juicy
he ain't get you juicy He ain't get you
Ready to die
He ain't
You know what I mean
Nah I've been fucking with this
Though he know
He used to send me cases
To it too
Cause you a tequila drinker
When you
Casually drink
Nah so
I don't really
I don't drink
Period
I drink
Just to be real
I drink water
I used to drink
Lean a lot
But I stopped Last time you was here You was drinking lean So that had to be real, I drink water. I used to drink lean a lot, but I stopped that years ago.
Last time you was here, you was drinking lean.
So that had to be a long time ago.
Yeah, it was a long time ago.
Like four years ago.
So, okay.
And then, so
this is what happened.
I was trying to, so I went out with Stout.
You know what I'm saying? Steve Stout yeah and he was like lost let's go yeah he was putting
me down on the red wine right right put me down you know I'm saying so I started
going to different different places trying red wine that was my thing kind
of red wine I was just trying to blend Pinot at first and I started trying to
get my wife when she see this certain pinots that is very, very expensive.
Most of the very, very expensive wines
is red.
So, yeah, I'm just, you know, at this particular
time, four or five years ago, I'm learning.
You know, I'm trying to get on the reds.
Before the most expensive shit?
No, this was during that time.
And LeBron
drinks good red wines
and stuff, so I'm just trying to be a part
of the good red wine
drinking club. Good red wine game.
You know what I'm saying? Trying to be down.
And so, you know, I got
a restaurant and I got
my restaurant. I'm like, make sure we got red wine
for when I come up in the building.
You know what I'm saying? But you gotta have expensive
red wine. You just can't have
Kendall Jackson up there.
Why's name gotta be Kendall?
What's the nigga name?
Kendall Jackson.
Bro, I just seen the label in my hand.
Bro, you dumb as hell.
Is that the box wine?
Hey man, it's not the good one.
Hey man, oh my God.
Can't have that.
And Escobars.
Yeah, Escobar, yeah.
And so then after like our year anniversary,
my partner,
she was like,
man, you need to take a shot.
So after about three shots,
you know what I'm saying,
this is my own restaurant,
so you know what I'm saying,
you know,
she might get a bottle,
you know, ordered and shit,
you know what I'm saying.
And I don't drink, so I wasn't doing it.
But I'm like, this is my fucking restaurant.
So I started telling them, bring me a bottle out.
You know what I'm saying?
Shit, bring it.
You know what I mean?
Woo.
You know what I'm saying?
Do you get sparkles at your own restaurant?
Yeah, I do that too.
Yeah.
My little big face and everything.
A big Tony face.
You know what I'm saying?
They come in. You know what I'm saying?
They come in, you know what I'm saying? And so that shit end up turning to this habit that I have.
It's been about four years, but I still don't drink.
You know, the thing is when you get booked, you get bottles.
And then that's how this shit happen really.
Cause I wouldn't be at home just like trying to drink
and shit like that kind of a thing. I'm a space of greed. And if I wasn't on drinks, yeah what's to drink and shit. Like, that's not my thing.
I'm going to spray some Creed.
And if I wasn't on drinks,
yeah, what's good with them?
They got, you got, what's good?
I'm trying to get a check.
Trying to get a check.
That's why he sprays it
in our face every time.
Hey, man, listen,
sometimes you just got to feel rich.
That ain't sage, man.
Listen, Creed make me feel rich, man.
Like, it's just,
you just spray it sometimes
and just, you know.
I'm going to be honest.
I'm a Bond nigga.
NYC Bond?
That's what I'm talking bond nigga and why see bar
Y'all need to come on in
Teen time I'm to need some kind of something, man.
I got probably about 30, 40 bottles of bun
at the crib.
Really?
And at the studio.
And everywhere,
I just got it.
I'm a bun hoarder.
That shit probably
be done evaporated.
I be getting so many
bars of that shit.
But y'all need to come on in.
Right.
Because see,
it's the only real fragrance
that you can mix together.
So nigga be trying
to get the recipe,
the sauce.
But I'm not.
You can't get it because I'm going different bottom with a different, you know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
I'm going, you know what I'm saying?
If you know, you know, I'm a player, so I know stuff like that.
That's all I want to do.
I want, do you have a, you have a whole she,
have a whole sneeze and some got there.
I had mixed cream with the da Vinci though once.
Yeah, and what you got out of that?
Sneeze and cough and ache and stuff.
It didn't work.
It didn't work.
The slightest problem.
Yeah, it didn't work.
That didn't work.
I tried it, I tried it.
All right, cool, let's get on to quick time with slime.
Are you gonna finish it?
No, man, this ain't, I thought it was quick time, cool. Let's get on with quick time with Slime. Are you going to finish it? No, man. I thought it was quick.
Jeez.
It's not been quick a long time ago.
It's not at all.
Hold on, hold on.
It's long time with Slime.
This is how you know shit fucked up.
I can't even type in my own code.
You got to stop typing your code on camera, man.
That look ain't right, man.
That look ain't right, man.
How we start this shit?
How we start this shit?
Yeah. We were just crazy. We were sober. That look ain't right, man. How we start this shit? How we start this shit? Yeah.
We were just crazy.
We were just breaking this over.
We were sober.
Hell, we started.
Yeah.
That's how we do it.
We start sober, and then we get pulled over.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Don't put that in the air.
You know what I mean?
Not pulled over.
Well, he ain't driving, though, see?
Yeah, I ain't driving.
Nigga don't get no fuck when he get pulled over and ain't driving.
Exactly.
Okay, now this one, I don't know where you're gonna go with this.
Big Sean or Pusha T?
Oh, that's a good one.
Oh yeah, that's a good one.
Taking a shot?
Both, yeah.
Oh, shit.
We taking a shot?
Yeah, we taking a shot.
Come on.
You gonna have to put wifey juice in there or something.
We gonna let you pour your own shot.
You can pour your own shot.
You can pour your own shot.
It can be little.
Chiquitito shots.
Chiqual.
Yeah, all right, Josh.
I got you.
No, chiquitito to me, brother.
Dang.
All right, here.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, that's how you really do it.
Oh, yo!
Oh, see, that's how Puff drink it.
Oh, yeah!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Look at that Deleon right there, goddamn.
Come on.
Oh, that's that.
Yeah. This is absolutely the last question for Quick Time with Slime. Look at that Deleon right there, God damn, come on.
This is absolutely the last question
for Quick Time Islam.
Except the last one after that.
No.
I'll tell you this.
This is simple.
Loyalty or respect?
You gotta have
which one of my big... What one of them are big?
What kind of question? I'm like...
Whatever you want.
It's no criteria.
It's either or or both.
Do I want loyalty or do I want respect?
Is that what you're asking me?
Yeah.
Or do you want both?
What do you...
Yeah.
Or do you have to have both?
Well, obviously you want to have both.
Because you sound like you wrote that damn question.
What's your question?
Yeah, that's what I mean.
You're curious, man.
Oh, no, no, no.
I don't know.
No, yeah.
I'm just trying to figure out.
He got the tallest chair in this motherfucker right here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's your question, sir?
You got to tell us.
Yes.
Respect or loyalty? By the way, you can tell. Respect or loyalty. Yes. Respect or loyalty.
By the way, you can tell by his accent, he sold cocaine his whole life.
He's the plug.
Or done.
No, no.
Sold, sold.
That accent is different.
That's the sold.
You never had brick?
You seen a brick before?
No, he...
No, Chico, no.
Chico, no. He's the X-Blog. Me not. Me he... No Chico, no! Chico, no! He's the next plug.
No, no brick.
No, no brick?
Only smoke.
Construction.
That's how I met one of my plugs at the car wash.
At the car wash?
Niggas say, they got...
You into construction?
Into construction.
Guess what I tell him in?
I said, I'm in the lawn work.
I said, we should, we should.
He said, oh, he said, okay, I'm into construction.
You know, like, you know, bricks.
And then I said, I was, like, looking at my car, I said...
I said, oh, yeah, what you...
Anyway, but that was,
I had a flashback when I heard your accent.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's make some noise for drug dealer flashbacks.
Hey man, every now and then, hey man.
Hey man, every now and then I get them too.
It's like PTSD.
I remember, I had,
one of my friends got mad at me too
because he never had a plug and I ain't think how unfortunate
Never
And you got to think how rare this is like you
Now see I see people might got a computer cuz you find weed from this nigga don't mean he the plug.
You know that, right?
It might be two niggas and you might be the third.
It's getting taxed.
$50, $100.
You know what I'm saying?
Like to have a direct socket, like a lot of people don't get that.
And I'm so blessed as an individual that even when I was in the streets, I've had two different plugs before.
So you had the Kanye of cocaine before you was 10 the streets, I've had two different plugs before me.
So you had the Kanye of cocaine before you was down?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,'t have a lot of bricks. I had, that wasn't my thing.
Yeah, yeah.
But I,
but you know.
He chiming in again.
He want to be the plug.
But I met,
so what happened
in my neighborhood,
a lot of the
plugs or whatever,
they started
snitching on the
brothers and shit.
The shit switched.
Yeah, bro.
They set up,
they started like, you know,
because I guess they got jammed up.
They started like talking crazy, being, you know.
So we was basically trying to rob all the plugs and shit,
you know what I mean?
Because they had set up a few of the homeboys.
So I know one of my homeboys
came to me one day
and said,
we might have to,
might have to move studios.
And I was like,
why?
He was like,
man,
we finna,
you know,
take this nigga off.
We feel like he trying to,
you know what I mean?
And so that was one incident.
And then there was another incident
where my partner left
from seeing a plug
and got pulled over
shortly after.
He was locked up for like 12 13 years after that
so it was a situation where it felt like
It was a disconnection with
Because I guess if you ain't got no
Lord to you and respect the nigga and, you don't respect the nigga.
And if you don't respect the nigga,
you won't be loyal to him.
So I guess it's both.
That's the, thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I mean, I'm not selling you.
No, but listen, listen, listen.
It's both.
That's a trick question.
So think about that.
I did all that talking just to answer that question.
That was hard.
That was hard.
Let's make some noise for that.
Let's make some noise for that. Holy shit. Let's make some noise for that. Let's make some noise for that. Holy shit.
Let's make some noise for that.
Yo.
That nigga drank too much.
Nah, man.
I saw Big Sean on here like, yeah, sure you can do that.
This is not the right thing to do.
No, that was...
He was on y'all niggas.
Man.
I'm starting to feel like Sean.
You sure you guys do this every day?
This is not...
Oh, we're doing both, man.
This is not...
This is not...
This is not...
This is not...
This is not...
This is not...
This is not... This is not... This is not... This is not... This is not... I'm starting to feel like something sure you guys do this every day
You care It's beer, it's beer. It's Moledo. So, no, no, you gotta connect, motherfucker. Motherfucker, we haven't connected the whole time.
All right, my bad.
My bad.
Mm.
No, but that was crazy.
You don't understand.
We had Kanye sitting right where you was sitting there, and it's Halloween.
So it's some-
He said it's Halloween.
No, it was right after Halloween.
It was after Halloween.
Excuse me.
I'm like, you fucking me up.
Yeah, all right. And so I say, yo, so, you know, Big Sean, and he gets up.
No, you say, Big Sean, push your teeth.
And he gets up, and he grabs.
Same game.
Same game.
Quick time with Slime.
Same game.
I was throwing off, too, James.
I was like, I thought y'all niggas in good music lived a beautiful house.
I realize it's not really like that.
I don't know.
I love Sean.
I love Ye.
I love Pusha.
Right.
I fuck with Cudi.
Right.
Everybody else is a part of, you know, my journey anyway.
You know what I'm saying?
Man, I don't be really getting into it.
You a boy drummer.
You really a boy drummer. Man, I don't be really getting into it. You a boy drummer. You really a boy drummer.
Man, I don't...
I don't know.
Some things are more serious to people than others.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
I think some of the things that I maybe went through
before my music career conditioned me
to have a little bit more thicker skin
if an artist don't want to answer my text or fucking do a song for me.
You don't take it personal?
Yeah, I got to.
Yeah, I can't, like, put up a caption or whatever.
You know what I mean?
It's just not.
I just, man, I just try to take pride in, like,
just having an understanding of this. Sometimes it's just, you know what I mean? Like, nah, just having an understanding of this.
Sometimes it's just, you know what I mean?
Not just taking it no wrong way.
A lot of artists that I see,
I don't want them to be uncomfortable if they don't want it.
You know what I'm saying?
Because really, man, this shit's supposed to be real fun.
It's like, we getting millions.
You know, man, I don't think nobody should really like, man, if it happens,
shouldn't nobody really be like dying about this shit or even going to jail about this shit?
Because really, nigga, I ain't really trapping for real.
Nigga ain't really, you know what I'm saying?
Nigga, I'm buying a pound to smoke out of.
So I'm really like not bothering nobody.
You know what I mean? So I just look at where I am in life is being in a space where it shouldn't be,
you know, it should be limited stress.
I think the stress should come from just so many people want handouts.
That's maybe the biggest stress.
But like being stressed out because of a nigga
said something or feel some type of way, I try not to be concerned with that type.
But how can that mentality be passed on to young cats doing it
that are beefing and have problems?
Well, you got young cats, right?
So, you know, you got young cats.
You got the pride.
First thing, right, you got the pride, right?
That's real big in our community.
Pride and not losing a fight. You know what I'm saying? That's real in our community. Like, Not losing a fight
You know what I'm saying
That's real in our community
Like not losing a fight
Cause everything now is um
Everything now is published
Like any fight
For the rest of your life
So really taking an L is really not an option
It's not just that days L
It's not an option taking a L.
So you got some young brothers that are really throwing it away,
really just like based on pride.
And I told some, the reason I couldn't talk to somebody like that,
because I'm from an area, maybe on if they was doing this in New York,
where a nigga will really shoot you about stepping on their shoes if you didn't wipe it off York, where, like, niggas are really, like, shoot you about stepping on their shoes
if you didn't wipe it off.
Like, I'm from, like, like, niggas back in the day.
Hey, man, relax.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, like, yeah, so this is like,
this is like, I'm with the skatering days.
You a young kid, and, like, somebody step on somebody's shoe
and the whole fight break out.
So you got to think about the person that's in jail and did something to somebody because of this incident.
You know what I mean?
And so I think.
You say it's equivalent to that.
Well, now you speed up now.
And it's just like, I want to say it's that minor, stepping on a shoe.
But is it that serious?
Because some of the stuff going on, I don't know where it comes from.
You know what I'm saying? And I try not to even, I don't really, I don't follow shade wrong or nothing like that.
You know what I'm saying?
There's just not nothing I care to even care about.
Nothing against them.
They doing what they got to do.
But I don't follow that.
I don't follow myths.
I don't give a fuck about who go with who.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't give a fuck about none, really none of those things. You know what I'm saying? I don't give a fuck about
none, really,
none of those things,
you know what I'm saying?
And it's cool
to be in a relationship.
I have my own family,
you know what I'm saying?
I'm married.
Yeah, yeah.
I try to just, like...
Being married is gangster.
Am I trying to tell you
the subject,
or let me let you finish?
Yeah, yeah.
No, yeah,
I'm definitely married,
so, um...
Yeah, besides even the marriage thing,
just, like, being consumed with other people's relationships.
It was cool.
I think reality TV kind of bled over to the music industry
because it's kind of the same, you know what I'm saying?
People was conditioned to just watch somebody.
With social media.
Alcohol on you or some shit, you know what I'm saying?
That's what kind of, like, social media is.
Sometimes, I mean, I'm on it. I can't say I'm saying That's what Kind of like Social media is Sometimes I mean
I'm on it
I can't say
I'm like
Not looking on IG
But it's different
If you come from
A different generation
You look at that
As tools
Like social media
And if you grow up with it
It's different mentality
Yeah I'm entertained by it
Like when
When somebody
Do something crazy
I be like
Man bro
That shit crazy
I be entertained by it I ain't like too bro, that shit crazy. I'd be entertained by it.
I ain't like too good or too old for that shit.
I'd be entertained by it.
I see a player put off some money, jump on a jet, have that shit on.
I really love all of that shit, but I'm just not.
I'm not about to, how can I say this?
I'm not about to play myself off the streets.
That's the best way to put it. I'm not going to play myself off the streets. That's the best way to put it.
I'm not going to play myself off the streets
by trying to prove to nobody,
unless it's my mom and my wife,
that I got to stand on something,
spin something.
I'm not going to do it.
I don't even really need to do that.
And so I try not to get involved in beats
because why I'm going to get involved,
imagine taking somebody's side in beats, right right and then they end up being friends. It's ridiculous
You're crazy
Then you can't even really then they be friends. They go to each other house
Then is you gonna go you run with brother for a house?
What you gonna do you standing with brother man ago? They don't make it up
I see that so much like bro. I wish I can't even you know what I'm saying I see that so much it's like bro I wish I
can't even you know what I'm saying so I try to just
like not even
I really try to be in a bubble when it comes to that
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Now, let's get to y'all
verses. You and Ross.
Yeah.
This is like the pandemic.
It was a pandemic everywhere else but Atlanta.
But Atlanta.
Y'all niggas stayed wide open.
Miami too. We was wide open.
But not during that time.
Two months Miami shut down No Too much Miami shut down
Right
Too much Miami shut down
Then
Then
Then they looked at Atlanta
And said
These niggas ain't even shut down
A little bit
But
You and Ross
It's a part of the verses
Where Ross say
You in Miami
And you had to remind them
Nuh uh
We in Atlanta
You remember that? Yeah Cause I know you Remember a lot of shit Yeah I know Do You remember that?
Because I know you remember a lot of shit.
Do you remember that?
Yeah, I do.
What did you think about your verses
and would you do another verses?
I would love to do another verses.
They turned up now.
I think early on verses was trying to feel each other out
because it started out with producers
and then it started out with people just playing music.
And then people would perform certain songs.
And now people do shows.
Full-on shows, yeah.
So I think we all saw Versus grow from, like,
what song did you produce?
And even that's why I started out with producers
playing the beats of songs they produce.
And then artists, like, let me cap in.
And then it felt good for artists to get the, it felt like you were getting your flowers then
because you would see people tune in and have comments on your peers or whatever,
have comments on whatever was going on.
But I enjoyed it. I got a lot of respect for Big Boi.
We've known each other a long time.
And I think we both was just kind of playing it,
playing it on the 50.
But if you would do it versus again, who would you want?
Who would you think?
Wayne?
Nah, I wouldn't do Wayne.
Wayne, nah.
I definitely wouldn't do Wayne.
Wayne would need to do, like, honestly, Wayne would have to do.
Y'all playing.
Big Sean would be.
Yeah, Wayne would have to do.
You against Big Sean, you said?
Who said that?
Me.
Him against Big Sean?
Me against Big Sean?
Be interesting.
We got different types of music, but we maybe came in around the same time.
Somebody said ludicrous.
That's, come on.
I came in the game with Brody.
He put me in the game.
But why are you saying nah?
Come on.
I think that's.
This is morally, I don't think it's right.
I don't think that's a bad matchup.
Wait,
T.I.P.?
Tip?
Or Q-Tip?
T.I.
That man say Q-Tip.
Yeah, he's from Q-Tip.
Now, both of them,
my real brother, too, I was working on music with Q-Tip.
That man had so many vinyl at the crib.
And then, you know, Tip from Atlanta.
But Tip is from an earlier era, too.
I would look at Tip and maybe Luda or something like that because that's an era, I think.
You said Tip before Luda?
No, I'm saying they were in an era. That was before Tip Before Luda No I'm saying
They were in an era
That was before me
I remember
You mean them two together
Oh them two together
I was signed to Luda
When Tip and Luda
Were like
At the top of the game
But you saying
Them doing the verses together
Yeah I would
I would see that
More than me and Tip
Okay I get it
I get it
I get it
Yeah I'm just
If I just
You know
Just
You got 20
No I got 20.
No, I got 20, so that's the, even my thing with Ross
was that I was gonna play 20 plaques.
Yeah, I do, I got, so who else?
Y'all was the first people to bring out strippers too.
Well, I brought, I would be the first one to do,
I would be the soldier boy
of bringing out strippers on a Versus.
Now, bro brought out the massage, like the masseuse,
now that was Plim, but I brought out the strippers.
And when did this take place?
Did it take place in his crib?
No, it should've been,
cause he got a really nice home,
but it was at the studio.
It was at the studio.
Cause they started, you remember Versus was like, come on now, you remember it was home. it was at a studio. Because they started, you remember
Versus was like, come on now.
It was FaceTime shit.
It was on the phone, and then they started having
Teddy Riley fucked it up.
Yeah, they started having Teddy.
Teddy Riley, his internet connection
said, we got to beat me.
Let's be clear, the Rastaman
them, when they
came together.
Beanie Man and who? And Bounty.
Beanie Man and Bounty Killer.
When they came together and the police came up and down and said, y'all want to be the
Bandas?
What did he say?
He said, y'all want to be that guy?
And then they said, oh shit, putting them together in the same room is ill.
Yeah, the chemistry, you're not going to get it.
But let's just be clear.
Let's give it to the Rostas.
The Rostas invented it.
He said, y'all want to be in that game?
And then Swiss and Tim said, they got to be in the same room.
Yeah, it started changing.
They used to be in two different places.
They used to be on the phone.
Yeah, it's evolved.
Man, it's evolved a lot.
Let's be clear.
I never wanted Dream.
And what's my other man? What's his homie name? Sean. It's evolved a lot. Let's be clear. I never wanted Dream. And what's my other man?
What's his homie name?
Sean.
Sean Garrett.
Sean Garrett.
They grew up both being in the same room.
Their energy was not right.
They both from Atlanta?
Both of them.
Both of them.
Both of them from Atlanta.
Yeah, both of them from Atlanta.
Both from Atlanta.
But Dream was playing golf.
See, y'all think we have a beef in Atlanta, too.
We have to be keeping it on low. It be that
competitive competition or whatever it,
I don't know what they call it.
Cause I had no idea 2 Chainz was watching this shit.
These niggas is taking real shots.
Yeah, I was watching it.
You watched it?
I was dying laughing.
Like nigga, you know I wrote this for,
I wrote this for Beyonce too. They going back and forth.
They been having some like, yeah.
But when you start having them kind of like, Beyonce pick your record, you can pop your shit a little bit.
You can pop your shit.
You can pop your shit a little bit.
Because that's what's going to complete your career.
Not Beyonce.
But that whole feature.
Oh, man.
Is that where you, after you get that, you throw on your jersey in the top of the Hawks arena.
And say, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh.
We got Hov Nephew right here.
He's in here.
We're going to use that.
What do you think?
You been to rock brunches and all types of shit.
I've been to rock brunches.
I don't see how that doesn't happen.
Yeah.
I mean, you know,
I would love for it to happen,
but I can't.
Right.
You know,
let my jersey,
my jersey retirement,
let that be based on,
you know what I'm saying?
No, absolutely not.
You know what I'm saying?
But of course I would love it.
He's one of my favorite
emcees to do it.
Still doing it.
I've asked him a couple times.
You know what I'm saying?
I stopped asking for interviews.
I just work around it.
Yeah, yeah.
Work around it.
I think, but somebody of his caliber,
he just do what he want when he want to.
So you can't, I don't think a certain time you ask
can be done.
I know like me, I'm nowhere near where he is
and I'm one of those people that I just do what I want,
kinda like when I want to.
So I know he, he got a right to do that.
You know what I'm saying?
I just, it'd be cool.'d be, it'd be cool.
Besides Hov, what's your ultimate feature
that you would like to get?
Dr. Dre?
Besides Hov.
Or producer.
I've worked with,
with Dre,
it's not out.
I don't know if it ever
come out.
But he produced
or you wrote?
And it was for him?
I went to Dre Crib,
yeah,
and he sat right here
and I was rapping right here and and it was a little funny,
because I was getting, I was getting a little frustrated, because, you know, like, I don't
know I'm country, or what, I don't know I have a, whatever, you know, but I'm from Atlanta,
I'm not from, like, at this time, I told him, you know, like, look, you know, I'm not like a white boy from Detroit.
Like, I ain't fucking have like, you know.
You told him this?
Yeah, I told him that.
Because he stopped me like, no, you know, like, you know.
Because you were in a hurry with Nori.
Shit like this, you know.
But, you know, I'm trying to rap and he's like, you know, he's a perfectionist.
It's the reason he's fucking who he is, you know what I'm saying?
So I got that after, you know, the first hour or so.
I'm somebody that can probably do two, I know I can, I do two or three songs a night.
I can do two or three songs, but with him it'll probably take, you know, months to do that because of the process of just getting one verse down and making sure you enunciate things and make sure it's clear and you open it, you know, and I'm just like, you know, I'm like this like, yeah, I'm from Atlanta.
What level you at this time? You coming up or you up already?
This like, the other day, no, this like last year. This like last year or something.
Yesterday. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Man, man, man, man, man.
Dre and I, we have a good rapport.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm just, you know, I've been over there a few times.
I'm not just like, you know,
here go Dre taking selfies and that.
But I went over there and I learned a lot, really, from him.
I learned a lot from him.
And just like doing, like I said, just, you know, in today's climate, you don't have to like go line for line.
You don't have, you know, he's just a perfectionist on how he does things.
And so I think my accent and my enunciation was like.
Throwing him off?
Yeah.
So he would be like, you know, you know, hoping, you know, he was just trying to tell me, like,
you know, and I was really, like, receptive to it.
I wasn't, like, bucking or nothing.
But I did say, like, you know, let me just clear this up.
You know, I'm from Atlanta. You know, like, I'm not going to sound like the bro
that you've been working with.
Rascass.
Yeah.
No, I mean, in a respectful way.
That's my man, Rascass. Yeah, no, he can rap. But, yeah, that's what, I'm in there in a respectful way. That's my man, Raskin.
Yeah, no, he can rap.
But yeah, that's what it was.
But it's all good.
Holy moly guacamole.
I'm trying to get a...
But you finished the track, though.
I'm trying to get him on something, too.
Yeah, I finished the track.
So Dre produced it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's on him to put it out.
Dre actually works every day, which you won't believe.
I'm talking about records a song.
Yes.
Like every day, bro.
And like songs that should be out,
like good songs.
I went over there before.
He'd be like, pull this up.
And I'd be like, you did this today?
And it's like, but you know,
that just shows you the level of passion that he's at.
So, Abra said, you are the first person to be seen dancing with Nicki Minaj without dancing with Nicki Minaj.
I have no idea what this means.
Can you explain that?
On Bees on the Track video, I'm just dancing behind Nicki Minaj because I didn't hunch on her, I guess.
So, you know, whatever it was, just out of, I don't know.
Of course, out of love or respect or whatever, but that's all it was.
I think that's what he's talking about.
And I think TikTok made, like, something, you know,
off of it or something like that.
But, you know, she's like, my sister always have been, so.
Speak of Nicki Minaj, she just did a Joe Button interview.
Big up her and Joe Button.
We love it.
We not haters out here.
Oh, dope, she did that.
We not haters out here.
We congratulate her.
We congratulate her.
Now we need her at Dream Challenge.
Big up Zuzu is my name.
I heard a little undertone in Zu, Zu is my name.
I heard a little undertone in there though. A little...
You don't want her to sit right here at all?
Of course we do.
But I also gonna respect everything.
You know what I'm saying?
To me, I ain't a hater at all.
I'm gonna congratulate her.
But this is how you sit, you know what I'm saying?
She did it with Joe...
I mean... That's how you said it, you know what I'm saying? She did it. I mean,
that's how I said it.
You know,
Joe Buds and the,
you know,
just everything,
the body language.
You're definitely
overlooking that.
You're definitely
overthinking that.
You're super Virgo right now.
I'm just trying to read
the route.
Y'all are going together,
bro.
I'm Virgo-ing right now.
You Virgo,
you're over Virgo.
Nah,
honestly,
when I seen it,
obviously, they didn't have no clips out in this now. You Virgo-ing. My bushy-up player. No, no. Honestly, when I synced it, obviously,
because they didn't have
no clips out
in this interview.
They should have had clips.
If it was you,
you'd have had clips.
Nah.
Nah.
I ain't judgmental.
Nah, I ain't judgmental.
Mad clips.
Nah, I ain't judgmental
like that at all.
I just felt like,
I was like,
oh, okay, that's dope.
To me, that was dope.
That was dope
because last week,
she mentioned Drink Champs.
I don't know if you remember.
She mentioned Drink Champs. So, you know, at the end of the day. So, mention Drink Champs. I don't know if you remember.
She mentioned Drink Champs.
So I, you know,
at the end of the day. So mention Drink Champs
and then go do the Joe Budden.
No, you're trying to buy in.
What's up with you?
That's not what I'm saying.
He's doing a good job.
He's doing a good job.
He's doing a good job.
When you ready to do a ball gas,
nigga, let's,
you, come on, nigga,
you just signed
to Drink Champs Entertainment.
Hey!
We'll be all up in your videos.
We'll be all up in, yeah. We'll be all up in all that.
But yeah, but pick them up, man.
That's what I was trying to say.
Can we get another water, please?
Okay, yeah, cool.
Because we're going to take one more shot.
Did you know the birthday song
was going to be an anthem like that?
I surely did.
I know I'm different.
What's going to blow up?
I'm different. Yeah, I'm different. My whole blow up. I knew. I'm Different.
Yeah, I'm Different.
My whole first album was.
So you do know.
You said you don't know his.
It's a real hit.
Yeah, there you go.
No, no.
There you go.
At this time right here before I.
This is my first plaques.
No Lie was my first plaque.
I'm Different was my second plaque.
Right.
So.
No Lie.
Yeah, yeah.
So that was from Drake.
I listened to that song twice,
and then I didn't listen to it no more
until we got to the video shoot.
To damn near, I had to remember my words
because I knew it was a hit.
You said, no lie,
you don't remember your verses to no lie?
I mean, I do.
You got a record with the biggest artists.
Listen to me.
You heard me wrong.
No, listen.
I said, when I got the song back from Drake,
I listened to it twice. I said, when I got the song back from Drake, I listened to it twice.
I said, this is a hit.
So instead of going to the studio like a lot of artists do
and just playing this song for two months straight,
I didn't listen to it again.
I started working on other records because I said,
in my mind, it felt like the little sand thing.
Once you got a hit.
Right.
Once you got a hit, the sand, it starts.
And it's just a matter of time before the sand runs out.
Right.
And it's up to the artist to be able to turn that over.
To capitalize on it.
Yeah, to have another record.
Another record.
You know what I'm saying?
So if you feel like, and at this time, I knew No Lie was a smash.
I let three people hear it.
I remember it was on my iPad, and I would be like, yeah, I closed that bitch down and
just be like, I'm telling you, this bitch out of here, boy.
But then I would go to the studio and be like... I mean, I do it now, and I'd be like,
pull up.
And then that's how other records on the album came.
Like, I'm there for it, and Birthday Song,
and all these other songs,
because I'm already knowing what this is.
So I'm working on other...
So you had no live first?
Yeah, no live was one of the first records.
I saw Drake at an All-Star game,
but I knew Drake from early in the interview.
I talked about going on tour with Wayne,
and all of that stuff.
So he was out there.
I met him on tour then, like 08 or something. So I knew him
early on. And when I started getting a little
buzz, he said, let's do
one. And the first thing I,
some of the first things I bought when I started getting,
well, I had some money from the bags
and then I started getting show money like around
the Chitlin circuit. I started getting
People don't know about the Chitlin circuit.
Yeah, I started getting like, man, you can be a million.
I started getting like,
my show was like 12,000
at this time.
And I was doing
three, four shows a week.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm doing like,
I'm doing this.
This is when you got
a ride around and I'm getting...
Yeah, this right here.
Yeah.
This is when you had
the pistol too.
That's not sleep on that.
Ride around and I'm getting...
I bet you don't even perform
that at your shows no more.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's talk about that.
That's foul.
Ride around and I'm getting... You both don't no more. Yeah, yeah. Let's talk about that. That's foul. No. You both don't lead that.
Yeah, nah.
Don't lead that.
No, you're right.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding you.
I'm sorry.
So one of the first things I bought was a bus with a studio on it because I saw Wayne had this on tour.
So I had grinded up like a little bit over, not quite half a million.
Right. A little bit over, not quite half a million, a little bit over 400. I saw a tour bus and at this time,
I wasn't equipped, my mind didn't understand
purchasing, buying something versus
putting money down and paying on it
because just our mindset is that we supposed
to just buy everything we want.
Outright, right.
Yeah, outright.
So at this time, I found a bus for roughly around 300,000,
but it had the studio on it.
But I'm seeing my calendar that I'm having shows,
I'm about to get this money back.
So I buy a tour bus that got a studio on it.
And so I saw Drake at the All-Star game,
and he was like, you know, send me something.
And I said, boy, I got it already.
But I really was lying, you know what I'm saying?
I really didn't
have anything and um I go back to the bus and at this time my engineer his name was Jack I was like
bro we gotta find something for this nigga Drake he was on fire he'd been on fire for 20 years I
was like man he on fire I gotta um so I'm going through these beats I go to this Mike Will folder
we pull up this Mike Will beat and I'm just like like, man, I feel like he can sing on this part.
In my mind, I'm just imagining what I think Dre could do.
So I do a verse, and I send it to him.
And while I'm waiting on this hook to come back,
I do another verse because I'm just so anxious and shit.
And when he sent it, I put it back together,
and I put it together, and I just knew what that was,
you know what I'm saying, when I first heard it. what that was you know I'm saying when I
first heard and that's how that came about but it was off that investment
with that bus that made me like I did the record that you know I mean because
I actually told him I had a record that wasn't even created at the time right
you just made that motherfucker made a motherfucker in the moment the wheeze
pop of cheese and then the birthday song that's I think that's how we got all right so that's
another thing south by southwest i do south by southwest and at this time you know i'm good
music so yay and sean together they come to see me in south by southwest i got my bus outside my
bus got a stove and i got a chef at the time because once again i saw wayne with a chef and
kicking his shit so i need a chef as well i got got a chef. And plus, I'm eating differently.
I don't want to be fucking with the fast food like this.
So I got the chef cooking.
I'm on stage.
I bring Ye and Sean out.
We kick it.
He wants to come back and hear my album.
So I come on the bus and I play songs on the bus that I feel like sound like some Ye shit,
which is not the thing to do because he don't want to get on no shit like this, right?
And so I'm playing some shit and he like you know let me hear some more shit and
I uh I'm like man you know I'm thinking birthday song is the last thing that a
nigga like Kanye West want to get on I just don't think that this is gonna even
you know so I play this song he says beautiful story you so I play this song. He says. It's a beautiful story. No, I said.
It's a beautiful guy.
You know, I play this song.
And, you know, the chef is serving us food.
And I play this song.
And he says, you know, man, this the one.
I want to get on this one.
You know, like, I got a, you know, I got me a big booty.
I got me one. You know what I'm saying?
Or whatever, you dig?
And this the one I want to get on right here.
So I'm like, damn, this one?
You know what I mean?
And Sonny Digital had produced it, you know what I'm saying?
Atlanta produced it.
And I was like, and I told Sonny, I told a few people.
I'm like, bet.
You know what I'm saying?
And I gave it to Ye.
And he, you know, he added some elements to it that wasn't there.
He always changed it.
Yeah, he changed it.
But, you know, he made it better.
He even did the whole video was his idea.
The video was another crazy Ye thing where it was just one take.
It never stopped.
The whole video was like, if you look at birthday song video,
I literally had to run from, I had to run.
Man, this shit was the most tiresome video.
The video literally, it says action and the camera never stops.
It's never edited.
So when it gets to the end of the house, the back of the house, I literally am running around the house and I just look like I'm dancing.
But it probably fucking, I don't know what the fuck I was doing.
But it was one of the most
Creative yet tiresome videos because it was just so many moving parts, you know So it's always good to do shit with bro, but that's how that happened
It was South by Southwest once again shout out to my bus with the studio on it because by being there
I was able to play this shit for so that investment worked out. Yeah, it definitely did
So you also used to have,
I mean, I did a Tadal video with you.
Oh, who?
Tadal, I had a video you did for me.
Me and you, yeah.
And you also had the tour bus pulled,
you pulled it in with the Rolls Royce.
Oh, that was awesome.
The Rolls Royce was behind it.
Then you had,
then I think you pulled up in the Maybach separate.
Yeah, so what happened was you pulled up in the Maybach separate. Mm-hmm.
Yeah, so what happened was I always wanted the Maybach
because I had saw Jay
and Jay and Ye
and who else had Maybachs
back in the day?
I ain't gonna lie.
A couple people.
Raekwon had one early too.
Niggas had Maybachs, right?
Raekwon and Ja Rule.
It may be Toon, right? So when I got my money, started getting some money. When you're had Maybags, right? Raekwon and Ja Rule. It may be tuned, right?
So when I got my money,
started getting some money.
You're saying tuned,
you're talking about
Lil Wayne.
I'm talking about Wayne, yeah.
So when I got my money right,
the Rolls Royce Phantom
was cheaper than the Maybag, right?
Really?
I didn't know that.
Yeah, because I got the
62 Maybag with the partition.
I got the older model.
I got that motherfucker.
You know what I'm saying?
Right, right, right, right.
And so, you know, when you can't get, you know, so I got the Rose.
You know what I'm saying?
So I got the Rose, and I'm kicking shit there.
Boom.
I started making more money.
So now I want to get the Maybach.
You know what I'm saying?
And I say both of them bitches need drivers.
And both of them bitches need drivers,
and both of them bitches need to come everywhere that I go.
And then I need my bus there because it's a mobile studio,
in case a nigga wanna get some work done.
And that's how I moved around for a while.
With both cars?
With both cars and the bus.
Woo!
That's different.
That's different.
That is different.
You got a picture?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we need that picture because I wasn't taking
pictures back then.
It make it look like
I wasn't really like
popping my shit.
You know what I'm saying?
I was popping my shit.
You were still humble. You were still humble.
You were still humble.
Yeah.
And, you know, a good friend of mine,
I know he's a good friend of yours,
Busta told me sometimes, he said,
he said, yo, man, sometimes you too humble.
Yeah.
And so now I kind of crack out of my shell every now and then,
and I'll say some shit.
Do you ever feel like you was too humble?
Well, this is a thing that my people from
my studio
and shit know. I was
so cocky before I got on
that it was probably like
unhealthy. I was that cocky.
I used to be like, man, how the fuck this nigga?
Man, y'all like this shit?
Man, you know, I just was
like, didn't like, I just was like
as soon as I got on, I became, I just was like didn't like I just was like as soon as I got on I
Became yes, just good god
Cuz you were grateful I mean I mean nigga my friend
I also make you my friend honestly one of my friends called me Michael Jackson like nigga
He thought I was bad like what you know used to just think I was just a flashy nigga
I like and this like the Michael Jackson, you used to just think I was just a flashy nigga. And this is like the Michael Jackson, like, oh, the trap, like, of, like, what we doing.
Like, man, you know what I'm saying?
Well, I'm telling you, but it's Michael Jackson right here, boy.
I get on, as soon as I get on, I go to, you know, thank you, Lord, for this day.
You know, I do interviews.
I'm like, you know what I'm saying?
I want to, I want to, and I just became so humble.
And I think one of the things that I, that made me become humble was because I saw a few artists that was super cocky right and when they fell off
people didn't want to fuck with them no more because of their attitude right
because how they made them feel so I said cuz you know you're gonna go up
that ladder but when you come down life is gonna humble you know see when you
come down you got that nigga that might, hold on,
or you got that nigga that might let you go on
all the way down, like, man, yeah, suck a nigga,
you was, you had your hands up,
you had your hands up, you was poppin' like you,
you know what I'm saying, like, boom,
cause the money gonna come, and it's gonna go
based upon lifestyle, so I was starting to see people
who weren't getting no fucking with based off
how they was just acting,
how they was moving.
So as soon as I got on, not to think that I was going to fall out one day,
which is a natural, probably, you know, course,
but I just didn't want to be just rubbing people the wrong way, basically.
You know what I'm saying?
Then you invented Dabin Santa.
Whew.
Killed no fault with that.
I'm still killing no folks
with all that.
I leased it to Sprite.
So you see,
there'd be a commercial
coming on with LeBron
and all that.
They'd be wearing my sweaters
in that commercial.
Yeah, that's another bad Tony.
Whoo!
I just...
Hold on. Hold on, by the way.
That was called a slow clap.
When you slow clap, that's legend.
Like when you, that's when the nigga do a football touchdown and he get right to the
yard line and you go.
Slow clap.
Everybody look around. Everybody look around.
Slow clap.
I love this shit.
Holy moly.
Can we squash this right now?
Let's squash it, man.
I don't want to talk no more.
Holy shit.
Nigga be like,
nigga be like,
hey,
2 Chainz on the
uh,
blah, blah.
Oh my God.
Oh my God, man.
I'm straight.
I don't have no problem with brah,
but I don't have no problem with you.
Nah, of course not, man.
Y'all done fed me all that damn
De Leon by Diddy.
Commercial break.
So,
that's right,
that's right,
that's right.
Let's make some noise
for that out there.
De Leon by Diddy.
Let me ask you two things.
Listening to the album
and how accurate
and how on point you are
with this album, you have
to one million percent still
love this game.
Like, you can't make an album
like how you just made. I'm saying this
with all sincerity. You know what I mean?
Why haven't you felt
out of love with the game? Or have you
felt out of love with the game at one point?
Or jaded by the game?
Because I'd be saying some shit that'd be surprising.
Man, really, I'd be like, I'm just still, I still got something to say.
I still got experiences.
I'm still dealing with some traumas I want to get out through my music
and put in there.
You know, I'm hiding information in there even for myself, you know.
I haven't sat down with anyone before and talked about this.
I've done some real, excuse me, I've done some real regretful things.
I've done some regretful things.
So music, I think, is the best way for me.
For me, yeah.
Right.
Because I don't even think I could be comfortable
even telling some people some of the things I've done.
Right.
Are you trying to find redemption by doing the music as well?
No.
Well, I'm probably somebody,
I'm probably somebody,
one of the only people you know that don't,
I don't believe in karma.
You don't?
Good or bad? I don't believe in karma you don't good or bad i don't
believe in karma period wow it can't be what it can't be it can't be i've never heard that
to be honest with you i've never heard because because what do you define karma as being
well i don't define as anything everybody else as it's going to come back and get you, whatever the fuck it is.
But I can't believe that.
If I believe in that, I wouldn't be right.
I'd be fucked up.
I wouldn't be right.
But you got to believe that good energy comes back to you.
I don't even believe in that.
Really?
Yeah.
How do?
Yeah, yeah.
I just, you know, I'm going to put good energy out.
You know, you obviously want to receive that.
But I'm going to put good energy out because You know, you obviously want to receive that.
But I'm going to put good energy out because I just think that that's what you should be doing.
Right.
So that's why you somewhat believe it. Because when I'm around, like, a person who has great energy, it just helps me.
You know what I'm saying?
One million percent helps me when I'm around people with great energy.
Mr. Lee, is that the plug?
Hey, man, this is how it happens, man.
What's up?
Take it out.
So you believe in positive energy.
You believe in that.
Yeah, I believe in good days and bad days, right?
That's real. I just started looking at it like that. I believe in good days and bad days, right? That's real.
I just started looking at it like that.
I believe in good days and bad days.
I believe that men can be moody, too.
You know what I'm saying?
I believe that, too.
Niggas don't have to have no cycle to be moody.
They can be moody based on fucking lack of sleep lack of nutrition
like a bite whatever can be you know whatever that is which is no excuse but
that can possibly happen and I believe that honestly you know you should try to
be unless you just like come from a circumstance that you can't be positive
like you just dealing with some shit like that.
Can't nobody expect that.
But like,
you should try to be as positive as possible.
Like,
I think you should be like trying to be as negative as possible.
I don't know what the results will be from that.
You know what I'm saying?
But just trying to just be,
you know,
just say what's up to somebody walking down the street or whatever it is.
You know what I'm saying?
I think it's just a good gesture, offering somebody, whatever it is.
That's just the way I am in life.
But just thinking that if I treat somebody good,
that I'm going to win an award next year,
I don't believe in that or some shit like that.
Because one of the first things I just noticed when you jumped out the car today,
you jumped out the car and there was a delivery man.
And you said hi to the delivery man as he was walking by. I don't know if you did. I didn't pay that much attention, but I probably did. Yeah delivery man and you said hi to the delivery man he's walking
by i don't know if you didn't pay that no attention but i probably did yeah the guy said hi to you and
you literally just you know extended your hand and said i was like that's dope and i that's just
you know because you're a superstar you consider yourself a superstar correct
so as a superstar to see then and as a delivery he had on a uniform And everything I don't think it was UPS
Or FedEx
But why wouldn't I do that
That's fire
That's what I'm saying
No no
I don't want you to
Listen this is
Let me clear this up
If I'm in the club
Which I'm doing
I don't want to have
A conversation in the club
Really period
Right
Cause I don't want you to yell
I don't want you to breathe I don't want you to yell. I don't want you to breathe.
I don't want you to be in my...
And this explains why I turned my whole back to a nigga
who's trying to talk to me.
This is why.
I still don't want to have nothing to do with COVID or whatever.
So don't be high, HME,
and fucking having something to say in the club.
Now I got to concentrate, look at you,
possibly fucking spit or fucking some other shit.
So let's just, like, figure out another time
to have this conversation in the club.
Let's just, like, you like this?
Whatever,
but don't like
talk about your weed strand
and where you can take me
on Monday.
But like, bro,
I just want to clear that,
please, most respectfully.
I just don't want to do that.
But I take pictures all day,
but I don't want to have
for like...
A deep, deep, deep conversation.
If I can help it.
So what is the best strip club in America right now?
You can pick one.
God said you got to go to one for the rest of your life.
This is it.
One.
Man, we got to take a shot for that.
This ain't even a quick time.
That's how you do it. That's how you do it. He locked in there. Man, I can't. We got to take a shot for that. This ain't even Quicktime or Slime.
That's how you know.
That's how you know he locked in there.
He locked in.
This ain't even Quicktime or Slime no more.
Yeah, boy.
All right, then.
Let me give you an easier question after we take this shot.
Yeah, I can't.
Salute.
Let me give you an easier question than that.
Instead of me asking you your top five MCs,
give us the top five strip clubs in America.
Okay, I can do that.
In America.
Magic City, Allure.
Is Allure also in Atlanta?
Yeah.
Jesus.
Onyx.
Onyx.
I said America, sir.
I didn't say Atlanta.
Okay, all right, cool. Blue Flaming. Okay, we have Onyx. You said Magic, sir. I didn't say Atlanta. Okay, all right, cool.
Blue Flame.
Okay, we have Onyx.
You said Magic City first.
Onyx, Allure, Blue Flame.
What's all four of them?
That's all Atlanta.
Atlanta.
That's right.
Can you give somebody somewhere else some props?
See, you talking about New York niggas.
Look at this Atlanta shit.
What are you trying to say?
This ain't cocky as shit.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Booba Trap.
I like Booba Trap.
Oh!
Give my ass a low.
Give my ass a low.
Nobody likes Take One?
Big up my man Mike.
Big Mike.
Big up Mike from Booby Trap.
Take One?
Nobody, no?
Take One.
I don't even think people
at Take One go to Take One.
What was the spot
we used to went to outside?
Showgirls.
Oh, listen, listen.
Showgirls was the shit.
Oh, listen.
Listen, 2 Chainz don't never hang out with this nigga.
That nigga name and like names I never even heard of.
Nah, he used to love that motherfucker.
Nigga like, no, it's not true.
I just hung out with you.
But I never liked it.
You been to club Mesmerizing?
It wasn't Mesmerizing.
Yo, I can't lie.
Your ear vision is like, I'm not even gonna lie.
I'm not even gonna lie.
I'm not even gonna lie. I'm not even gonna lie. I'm not even gonna lie. I'm not even. You've been to club mesmerizing.
It wasn't mesmerizing.
Yo, I can't lie.
Yeah, Vin, that's my brother.
He's one of the, like, he sticks to his guns.
If his strip club is around his way, he going to go there.
He going to make it feel good.
Showgirls was not great.
No one.
Hey, they played our music.
They showed us love.
That's real damn deep. What are you saying?
The ladies danced with bullet holes and everything.
They definitely had gun rules.
They definitely had...
That was the first strip club where...
Wait, Jamie.
Let me...
I have to include Cheetah in Atlanta
because I go there to eat.
Cheetah in Atlanta.
Cheetah, yeah.
It's very nice.
They have really good food.
I can't forget about the strip clubs.
All of them from the Flann and Magic City.
They have great chefs
in these strip clubs.
Some of them. I just started thinking
because I've... I went to
Honest plenty of times for lunch.
Real talk.
I was just thinking, man, like Cheetah
got some real good assass sea bass, bro.
Mmm.
With the motherfucking mash.
Mmm.
With the broccoli.
Broccoli? Broccoli rye?
Or regular broccoli?
With the regular broccoli, motherfucker.
Regular broccoli.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Man, your face got serious when you said that.
I can't believe you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, I like my sea bass to look like a little flaky on the outside a little bit. On that little. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I'm like, my sea bass is like a little flaky
on the outside a little bit.
On that little top coat right there.
Mmm.
Jeez Louise, Papa, jeez.
Holy moly guacamole.
So you're going with four in America.
On the whole of America.
You said top five or top ten?
I said top five.
I really said five.
Okay.
But you got two more?
Let's go top seven because that's the guard number.
So two more strip clubs.
Four is in Atlanta.
One is in Miami.
But really five because I said Cheetah.
I had a Cheetah tour.
Oh, that's six then.
And then Booboo Trap.
That's six.
I'm stopping at six.
No, go seven because seven is the guard number.
All right.
Get off the six.
I got you.
Yeah.
All right.
The six is usually related to the devil
We don't want that. Yeah, devil can't do nothing with me though. Yeah, that's right
Don't even matter to me. See I don't care about nothing that shit
Nothing can do nothing with me if you try. Let's hit that seven though. I met the devil before. What's the last one?
Oh, and then we talk about me and the devil. What's the last one?
Seven would be... Remember LA, LA is out here.
LA strip club? Boy, you got to be...
You drinkin'.
You got to be drinkin'.
Amber Rose got a
strip club she used to host out there. It's pretty cool.
You can't even...
You know this shit.
You know this shit, like,
how the weed, you can smoke it in some places
I'm pleased they said yeah the same game why but strip club naked over here over there bikini
That's not no comparison
You know I'm saying it's a fool, but can't it's the only thing it misses.
And I done got tricked now.
Went down two, three, four thousand,
look around me, everybody.
I'm like, shit, these folk just missing shoes, really.
They got on everything.
They got on clothes.
And you know, girls wear seductive clothing.
Regular.
Yeah, man.
It's a good place to go
kind of like hang out,
but I ain't never like
got to go to the L.A. strip club.
Like, that don't have to
be on the today's show.
The old KOD.
The old, old KOD?
Yeah, but that's not now.
But yeah, we talking about
old strip club.
We be going all day.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's talk about now.
Let's talk about now.
Yeah, so the seventh one,
y'all had to give me some ideas.
In Miami, the one I've been going to down here would be Booby Track because I got my little Masai lady in there Yeah, yeah, let's talk about now. Let's talk about now. Yeah, so the seventh one, y'all had to give me some ideas.
In Miami, the one I've been going to down here would be Booby Trap, because I got my
little Masai lady now who'll be working on my-
On the River, yes, two Booby Traps.
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't know.
Yeah, on the river by the airport.
On the river, yeah.
I'm not going to get two Booby-
No, no, no.
On the river.
We said the one that you're picking is on the river.
Oh, it is?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the one by the airport, yeah.
But it's, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, the one by the airport, yeah. But it's, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, they are owned by the same people?
The booby trap by Sunset Place, right?
Booby trap on the side of the beach now?
Yeah.
They are owned by the same people?
They owned by the same people, Mr. Lee?
Yeah, yeah, they have to be, yeah.
Same owners, or?
Let's throw Showgirls in there, baby.
Showgirls, so they got, so they got, so they got,
so they got franchise strip clubs.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's Miami for sure.
I didn't realize that until you just said that.
All the fries taste the same.
That's all right.
And they got cheetahs out here too.
They not all, but the same.
Let me tell you something.
I'm going to be honest with you.
When I first moved on this side, when you said cheetahs, I swear to God, tell you something. I'm going to be honest with you. When I first moved on this side,
when you said cheetahs,
I swear to God,
I cannot make this story up at all.
Yeah, yeah.
I first went to the strip club,
my dude.
But I'm not knowing.
Pop's not running it at this time.
Pop's,
Trigati Pop's running it now.
But he wasn't running it back then.
Back then,
so I just went there,
and I promise you, my dude,
somebody said, yo, dude sent you a bottle.
They sent me a couple bottles,
so I just wanted to say something to the dude that sent me a bottle.
I went to say something to the dude that sent me a bottle.
Nigga, the police is in there full flag,
uniform, fuck it.
Yo, boy! police is in there full flag, uniform, fuck it.
I said, Miami's different. I said, wait a minute.
Like, I'm going, like, that nigga sent me like four bottles.
I'm like, damn, like, this is some big meat shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, let me just thank this nigga,
because I'm going to drink all four.
You know what I'm saying?
And I went to his joint and he's sitting there
and the police, this thing, I'm talking about,
it's not detectives.
These niggas is police.
Dang, you look hilarious.
And they like this.
One nigga's is Puerto Rican.
He like, oh yeah, come with the dialogue.
I'm like, nigga, don't talk to me.
That's hard.
That's hard.
I swear to God, that's hard.
And then when they raided Cheetahs out here, I said, I ain't gonna lie, that's the first
time I said, they were a little loose.
Yeah, they was a little loose in there?
I said, they were a little loose.
I can see why the raid happened.
What's the loosest strip club in the world?
That don't happen like that no more.
But they had some very loose strip clubs in Atlanta. Very, very, very loose.
Yeah, they don't do that
anymore. We even had the places
in Atlanta where they were doing
the happy endings everywhere.
Those spas and everything.
Oh, the massages?
They had to shut those down.
Especially on my side.
It's like New York. We used to have Times Square.
It used to be like the jerk-off capital.
Yeah, they had those windows.
Now Disney World.
That shit is crazy.
It's amazing to see stuff like that.
So, 2 Chainz, you've been down.
Two people who basically co-signed you were Luda.
Let's just be clear.
We can't let this interview end without you speaking about Luda.
How did that relationship even start?
So Luda is from the South Side as well.
He just went to another high school.
And we have a mutual friend by the name of little fake that's actually
like his right hand man some stage wouldn't lie yeah and fate went to both
of our high schools he went to my high school which was North Clayton and he
went to Banneker High which is the school that into, and they always was rappers. I was a drug dealer.
And I stayed in these apartments that was like,
it was literally a trap,
it was where people came and got drugs from,
but the airport was expanding the runway,
so they were offering people in the apartments money to move.
Luda was working on a radio station at the time.
And he was smart enough to move into the apartments only to get the money.
He stayed in the front by the rent office and stuff.
And so we kind of got a relationship like that because it was like the dude from the radio, you know, he lives in the front or whatever.
And so I started trying to be a rapper at the time because it was older guys around me who thought that I should rap.
Because I used to try to freestyle either, you know, at the car wash or on the block or even on the back of the school bus if I was going to a game.
I just used to be freestyling.
So like an older cat
told me, like, you should try to rap.
Lay some of this shit down, you know what I'm saying?
Like, back then, people used to
look like rappers. They wore
like head, I mean, like, what is it? Wristbands
up here and fucking
wristbands and big shirts
and headbands
and shit, you know what I mean?
And, you know, they
looked like rappers was in it.
And I just, I looked like I did something else at the time, you know what I mean?
And I started rapping, and he heard something that I did, you know what I'm saying?
Like, and gave me a compliment, and we started.
Was he Chris Love-a-Lover at this time?
Yeah, he was Chris Love-a-Lover.
Okay, cool, cool.
And him and I are, like, one day apart this time? Yeah, he was Chris Love-a-Lover. Okay, cool, cool.
And him and I are like one day apart.
We're Burgos, he's part of us too.
And we started like, we just started getting to know each other on a different level.
We started having some things in common.
Right.
And the first song I ever recorded, he thought one of the lines was hard as hell.
And he was like, he was thinking about, I don't know what he was thinking about,
but he thought one of the lines was hard as hell. So he was thinking about introducing us to
Scarface when they had the Def Jam South deal.
Def Jam South.
Signed.
That's deep.
Signed to them. That never panned out. I ended up signing with Luda and Tadala from, that
was with me on Player Circle. He was in jail for a couple of years until he came home.
When he came home, we formed Player Circle circle which was the name of the compilation that little originally heard me on and we
Have been friends kind of every sense and then you know, I just started growing as an artist
I started growing as an individual and I started recognizing
You know my power how I changed the room and just like I could go places
I didn't really need to go places with him to get recognized or recognition and you know I just you know it was a it was amicable you know I'm saying
because because when did you when did you really say you know what let me let me let me let me move
on my own it wasn't like you left him I don't think but it was like you you wanted to boss up
yeah so what what what was what was that like? I woke up and I said, I called them and I said, I don't want to be on the label anymore.
And then they said, you can't do that.
Like you can't just like that.
There's no two way.
This is a straight up.
Well, you know, you just can't get off the label like that.
I'm like, what you mean?
I don't want to just do my own thing.
They thought I was about to go sign with like Cash
Money because I had a strong relationship with
Tune at the time. I would have thought
you signed with Cash Money too. Yeah, but
really, I've been around
Chris, I've been around Wayne
and then I'm learning that I
can really do this on my own. That's what I'm really
getting out of all this. I'm not getting that I should
go from one wagon to the other. I'm not getting that I should go from one wagon to the other.
I'm not getting it.
That's not what my mind is.
I'm getting that, oh, I can do this too.
I just need a really good team around me.
I need some facilitators.
I need some people.
You know what I mean?
I started getting this shit just like from observation.
So that wasn't it.
And his first thing to tell you is you can't just do that.
Yeah.
Business-wise, he's correct.
He actually said something else I won't say.
It's just funny.
He said some other stuff, but I don't even know if he knew.
What did he say?
I was like.
He said, you can't leave.
Not like that.
He's just trying to use another situation.
Like, such and such and such and such.
And I was like, huh?
Nah, this ain't that, you know?
Like, Wayne can't leave, baby.
No, he didn't say that, but there was a situation.
I'm fishing here.
Yeah, there was a situation.
So, you know, and so then one time, so I had some money,
and I went to the office, and Jeff might not remember this,
but I remember they said something.
Jeff Dixon?
Yeah, Jeff might not remember this, but he was like,
you want to leave?
You want to leave? You want to leave? You know, give me $100,000 right now, but they didn they said, oh, you want to leave? Jeff Dixon? Yeah, Jeff might not remember this, but he was like, you want to leave? You want to leave?
You want to leave? You know, give me $100,000 right now, but they didn't know I had
the money, right? Oh, shit.
So I was like, man,
I'll go get this fucking shoebox.
By the way, that's my album cover, the shoebox.
I'll go get this fucking shoebox right now,
because really, I had like
$111,000
or whatever, but I was willing to pay.
Right, to get out.
You know, but I'm not like even,
I'm smart enough, but I'm not even rational enough
to know that even if that was the way to do it,
I couldn't just bring them a box of money
and just be out my deal.
At the time, I just wanted to be out of it
and just like buy them, say, a hundred,
like, nigga, that, like, and, like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I just, this was my attitude at the the time i wanted to just be on my own i have the team i have people that i felt like
believed in me not to say that they didn't but i just man i've always always always always always
been a leader i've always believed in myself i've always always been confident i hadn't always been
rich so you don't have money and stuff like that it might suppress some of those things but i've
always been a confident little fucking black boy who always knew how to fucking put on clothes.
Whether I stole the clothes or whatever I had to do as a kid or whatever I did, I've always known how to take care of myself.
My dad instilled some really player shit in me.
My mama raised a player. And so every situation I've ever been in, even from being at this table,
is a learning situation for me.
You know what I'm saying?
But what made you want to leave DTP?
Because at the time, let's just be clear,
the label was one of the hottest labels in the industry.
Well, I'm not ignorant, but let me be honest.
The name alone is DTP.
That's a misdemeanor.
I'm a whole felon.
I've been a felon since I was 15 years old.
So it really was like, that was been a disconnection with me.
I probably never even said this to nobody from day one.
No, no, like humbly speaking, like really.
Oh my God.
I didn't even beep that.
Yeah, humbly speaking, like that was kind of the disconnection, like, you know what I'm saying, for me.
I really like, you know what I'm saying, for me. I really like, you know what I'm saying, so that was kind of it.
Maybe the little piece of the name had something to do with it, it weren't flourishing.
But it's his baby, it's his name, I can't do anything about it.
You can't knock him, right.
Yeah, the name of my shit is The Real You, The Real University.
Some people like it, some people don't. I can't. But at this particular time, that was a disconnection with me because that wasn't a charge that I had.
So you leave.
No, but what happened?
Did you put up the hundred?
Did you have to do that?
Yeah, so I have a lawyer, and then I meet up with, so I'm high, and people are trying to call me too.
And then Victor
Calls me pushers manager
Steve Van Victor
I don't even know what he called me for
But you know
I'm starting to tell people
That
I don't want to be in this situation
And I don't care who listens at this time
But I have a lawyer
And the lawyer that I had at the time Acted like he couldn like figure out how to get me out of contract and then I get
the lawyer that I got right now and he looks at the contract and tells me he can get me out in
you know a couple weeks and I'm like you know basically cool you know what I'm saying and then
so I pay I pay to get out and I get a lawyer you don't pay little enough I pay little to get out
okay they get a point
on my first three albums.
They got a point
on my first three albums.
So you paid Luthor
the hundred grand?
I paid Luthor the hundred grand.
Plus the points
on the first three albums.
Yep, I gave him a point
on each.
Listen to this, young artist.
No, it's a learning experience.
It's a learning experience.
I gave him a point
on the first,
I gave him a point
on each of the three albums.
I'm on my,
I just dropped my seventh album.
So you're out of that, right?
Yeah, I'm on my eighth album that I'm about to drop now.
So that was, and the 100,000, I mean, very humbly,
let me just really say this, I got it on me now.
So that just, I just kind of bet on myself with that.
Was the name change ever a part of that?
No, the name change just came apart with my growth, man.
It just came apart.
It wasn't a day it happened.
It just happened.
I said, Titty Two Niggas or Titty Two Chains on the song.
And it just started happening.
So what happened with Titty Boy is, once again,
I'm standing in these apartments.
I'm hustling.
Poppins.
Yeah, I got this song.
And these people think I got potential
so they sign me and they're like, what's your rep name
going to be? And I'm like,
Titty Boy, because I don't have a name.
My mama called me
Titty, my friends called me, I don't have a name.
And so when I go do these
radio, not podcast,
I go do radio and I say my name is Titty Boy.
They're trying to like,
what is this? What have you
brought in here? You know what I'm saying? And then they trying to, trying to take my
black boy joy. Like trying to take my little black boy joy. Like I ain't popping like Titty
Boy. Yeah. Trying to like, trying to like suppress me. Like, and so I'm like, damn.
So, you know, I'm getting it, but I'm like, damn, man, I'm having this thing. No, it's
nothing derogatory towards women. You know, I'm raised by damn. So, you know, I'm getting it, but I'm like, damn. And I'm having to explain, no, it's nothing derogatory towards women.
You know, I'm raised by a single black woman, strong black woman.
But I'm having to explain this more than I'm having to explain the music.
So I knew another angle had to come.
And then, you know, it was a combination of me owning 5540,
me being able to do more songs in a quicker period of time.
That way I was able to do mixtapes.
And then me rapping, I was able to come up with nicknames.
You know, rappers always, you know, read, read.
And that's what happened, man.
And a lot of stars were aligned for me to even get right here with y'all today.
But they did.
And I expected them to.
They absolutely did.
If you don't make 5540 your version of The Wire.
Oh, yeah.
Or your power.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be mad as shit.
I could just get somebody really to whoever's listening.
I reckon just get somebody.
I could really just get them the four or five hours of tapes that I actually recorded in my studio.
And, man, if you just hear how surprised I am about some of the shit that
happened in my one of my homeboys say this is a real acted out wire series in my opinion no it is
so we actually we even we can't even do this damn I'm tripping I'm talking about blog tv
I'm about to be on here don't say nothing put it in that head. I'm about to be on here.
Don't say nothing
to either of you.
But this shit
happened so long ago
and then, you know,
niggas know who it was
but niggas know
who got kidnapped
and beat up
and all that over there.
So, about our
studio equipment.
So, it was,
I get to the studio
one day.
I can't even,
I can tell you
the story because
I get to the studio
one day
and everybody's,
you know,
got,
there's some people
with torn t-shirts,
niggas breathing hard.
I'm like,
what the fuck
done happened to him?
They like,
oh shit,
we just beat Shardell.
I'm like,
beat who at?
They're like,
we found out
who took the studio equipment.
And they telling me,
like,
look down,
look down,
that's the blood on the car.
I'm like,
what the fuck
y'all boys done did?
And then,
you know,
after they tell me the story,
I start, no disrespect, I left. I'm like, what the fuck y'all boys done did? And then, you know, after they tell me the story, I start,
no disrespect,
I left the studio
like a little earlier.
Man, it was wild.
So I ended up leaving the studio
actually right before the shootout happened.
I ended up like
giving me a whole nother studio
because
I had went cold turkey on the bags.
That's a whole nother story.
But I woke up one day and said,
I don't want to hustle no more.
And niggas thought I was playing,
but I was really dead serious.
Like I started buying like ounces from other people
and I just started like, whatever.
But one day somebody, so these niggas tell me,
yeah, we seen them.
So they don't even know what they did
until they tell them the story.
Like they saw them walking
and then they brought him back here.
So as soon as I heard that, I said, oh.
Oh boy, I'mma head on.
I just knew something was gonna happen,
but it was just those stories like that
where like niggas don't even realize
they doing 10, 15 year crimes.
You know what I mean?
Just the passion of not wanting to be disrespected. you know what I mean? Just the passion of not wanting
to be disrespected, you know what I'm saying?
Big the homies up.
No, all of them still
the ones that are still
living. A lot of the people from there
have passed away right now.
From 10 years ago. It's been about 10
years since I moved.
Now you might have had
besides
50 Cent and Dipset,
you might have had one of the
illest mixtape
runs there is.
You're going to compare me to them boys?
Is that...
And Wayne. You can't forget about Wayne.
Wayne. Wayne. Yeah. Is that is that Anyway, you can't forget about Wayne Yeah
My favorite my favorite taste was definitely I like I like no silly dip said 50 wine shit who was Adam Jeezy
He's yeah, Jeezy
Gucci to who she did to yeah, but but the mixtapes, man, they were albums, you know?
That was definitely albums.
You getting booked, we getting booked.
Your mixtapes was definitely an album.
Yeah, I was getting, man, I was getting $40, $30, $40.
I remember you, this nigga Nori cussed me out one day.
I remember this.
He was like, nigga, I've been on private jets before and shit, nigga.
I was like, Nori, I was like, Nori, man, I'm trying, man.
I have to fucking jump on this jet.
He's like, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, check this out, yo.
I've done all that shit.
I'm just like you.
He was like, yo, yo, I need you to do this shit.
I'm like, man, you know, I'm trying to tell him I'm ripping and running at the same time. I got two, three shows, you know what I'm saying? Like, yo, yo, I need you to do this. Yo, man, you know, I'm trying to tell him I'm ripping and running at the same time.
We got two, three shows, you know what I'm saying?
And he started up like, yeah, I'm so happy.
He started like, congratulations, nigga. I need you to come to this house. And you always on it. We should be clear.
Let me tell you something.
Every time I ever ask you to do something.
We slick always kind of get into it.
That's y'all Virgo shit, bruh.
One time he was like, I said something, he was like,
nigga, I don't want to fight too.
I said, damn, switch it.
I wasn't even talking about that.
Yeah, because you be playing lots of games, you know what I'm saying?
Y'all just know the little humble nigga, he's smart. I wasn't even talking about that. Yeah, because you be pulling out your game to call it. You know what I'm saying?
Y'all just know the little humble nigga.
He's smiling.
Nigga pulled out a game.
You know, I've done some, you know,
I'm not saying that.
Who the fuck you talking to, man?
I just told some nigga that shit last time, my baby.
Who the fuck is he talking to?
I'll be done.
I guess I'll be smoking, chilling.
I'll be, man, I can't wait.
Oh, man. Listen, I love you, man.
Yeah, I love you too, my bro.
I ain't gonna lie to you.
I seen, I'm so proud of you because I seen, I seen, I never said this story.
I seen one time he was in New York and we was just talking.
I think we was having drinks or something.
He was like, damn, man, these dudes didn't book my studio.
And you used my studio that day.
I remember that.
And you could have went bad.
You could have went bad on the whole DTP.
Most artists would go, man, fuck my label.
And fuck, this is a...
You held it like a G.
And you said, you know what, can I record?
I said, record all day.
You did.
Do whatever the fuck you want to do.
And what I loved about your attitude was most young artists and most young, dumb artists,
you get a chance, and then it's one mistake that a person gave you.
Yeah.
And then you just go off.
You didn't do that.
No. You just said, yo, boom.
And you just recorded.
And I realized that this nigga's a genius. I knew he was a genius. And you was a titty boy at that time. recorded And I realized This nigga's a genius
I knew you was a genius
And you was a titty boy
At that time
Yeah I was
Let's just be clear
And
You know it's so cliche
To say that right now
Like I knew you was
Gonna make it
Like I
But you know
I fucked with you
Then
And I said that
I said this
He's somebody
He's gonna
And all the success You get, I claim it.
I might not claim it to you.
I might not claim it to you, but I'll be like, that my nigga.
I said, I knew it.
I knew it.
And I don't need nothing from, like, even like, I swear to God, this album, I really want to salute you because this is the album, as we get older and older and older, after your fifth album, they waiting for you to fall off.
They waiting for you to say, see, he ain't have it.
And for you to show up like this, like I'm telling you, your constituents, your people,
the people that's around us, they paying attention like I'm paying attention.
It's just they ain't going like this.
Yeah, yeah, I got it.
I get that.
I get that.
Because niggas is hitting me on the DM like, you right Nori.
And I'm like, oh, I be wanting to screenshot niggas, man.
I be wanting to screenshot niggas.
Like listen, oh, you, oh, okay, oh, your shit dropped last week.
Oh, okay, your shit dropping next week.
Oh, so this, you feel how, these niggas feel how I feel, y'all.
I feel the energy too sometimes, man.
And I just want to say that I, I'm not saying that I'm not the best, but I'm not the best
person.
I'm not the best person.
I'm not the best person.
I'm not the best person.
I'm not the best person.
I'm not the best person.
I'm not the best person.
I'm not the best person.
I'm not the best person. I'm not the best person. I'm not the best feel how, these niggas feel how I feel, y'all.
I feel the energy too sometimes, man.
And I just want to say that, um,
I fuck with all the peers, man.
I check out, it was a period of time
where I didn't listen to a lot of people's music,
but right now I try to listen to the youngsters,
people that came out with me.
I try to check out people's music.
I got a respect for people's art.
And it always is that
kind of secret competition.
But then it really don't kind of
have to be because it's so much
and so many platforms and so
many different ways to really eat out
here that I
refuse to hold my nuts or really
act like I don't see something
that I like. If I like it, I think I let it be known. You know what I'm saying? I think to like hold my nuts or really like act like I don't see something that I like. If I like it, I think I'd let it be known.
You know what I'm saying?
I think just like seeing something dope like my shoebox and this big old fucking active
bass with a big ass shoebox next to the crystals that I'm running.
You know what I'm saying?
And just all this stuff I'm doing next to this big ass tank.
Just all this shit I'm doing in the middle of downtown Atlanta you don't see this you know I'm saying
now you look like you even though you don't think you're a hater you slick
kind of guy hate a DNA like your mama your daddy was Now we know what that's like. I'm sorry. Man, because see, that's some DNA shit.
That shit be genetics, man.
You be, niggas be acting like they, you know what I'm saying, they mama and shit, dad,
whatever.
Them folk weren't gangsters.
Them folk weren't gangsters.
Whatever them folk was, that's what you is, man.
That's how I look at it.
Shit is in you.
Man, I ain't gonna lie.
It's in you, not on you.
I got to take another shot to that.
Let's take a shot.
I got to take a shot. Y'all are going to have a good shot. I got to take another shot to that. Let's take a shot. I got to take a shot.
Y'all are going to have a good shot.
It's the last shot.
No, this is to your album, though.
This is why you might have to take a shot to this.
I ain't going to lie to you.
Like I said, I was so refreshed.
Because I...
See, these boys...
These young boys don't know
them skits is a part of the album
when you listen to
you know these great albums
they always had skits
they always had something to entertain you in between
the music and to me you delivered
that
from the point I put it on
I'm like
where's it going?
I'm like okay he telling the story
it made sense to me as a story? I'm like okay He telling the story It made sense to me
As a story
And I'm riding
Thank you
Thank you for writing that
No no I'm just
I say this about you
When you're not around
And I promise you
On camera and off camera
About the album
Yeah
This is my
This is my favorite album
Right now
This is my personally
Favorite album
And I'm sitting there
And I'm like
The whole story
Made sense Even though When the homie Was talking about On the skits I didn't know personally favorite album. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, the whole story made sense.
Even though when the homie
was talking about
on the skits,
I didn't know what
he was talking about.
It was just most entertaining
to me.
I had a person on my album
called Animal Thug.
Where is Animal Thug right now?
We don't know.
He rich.
The nigga bought
that chicken spot.
He worked there.
Get the fuck out of here.
Yeah.
The nigga was the delivery boy. Animal Thug, the skit blew up. He bought the spot spot he worked at. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. The nigga was delivery boy.
Animal Thug, Skip, blew up.
He bought the spot that he worked at.
Let's make some noise for Animal Thug.
But that's what it reminded me of.
Because I had this animal.
And Animal was on.
You didn't have an animal.
I had Animal Thug.
And he was on NRE album, Platinum.
Then he went on a Melvin Flynn album.
I believe
he platinum now.
And he went viral
before that.
It reminded me of like
that 2K's
done caught his animal.
Because
what homie is saying
again I don't
know what he's saying
but how he's saying it
and how he's related to it
that was the most
entertaining shit.
I'm sitting
there like this nigga's a star too.
Well, the thing is they don't even know they're being recorded. So that, I think
that's, that's kind of natural. That's what, yeah, that's the thing. Like they didn't,
they didn't know. Wow. I didn't know that. You know, until they kind of heard it. What's
his name? Let's pick him up. Salud. Oh, we don't supposed to talk about him? Yeah. It's
big. A lot of people know big. Salud. All right. Let's take, let. Salud. Oh, we don't supposed to talk about him? Yeah, Big. It's Big. Okay.
A lot of people know Big.
Salud.
All right.
Let's take it.
Let's take it.
It don't count unless you dig it.
I'm going to tell you why I love Big, right?
Biggie Smalls?
No, this is my partner, Big, who you're hearing this from.
Okay, yes. This is why I love Big. been through more turbulence than I've ever seen from a young black man ever in my whole entire
life out of everybody I've ever known you know I'm saying he lost his mom he lost his sister
his son got killed in the middle of the street. You know what I'm saying? God bless him. He had them stage boy cancer.
Beat that.
You know what I'm saying?
So he had his ups and downs.
And so what you was hearing was a real passion for just, like, life.
You know what I'm saying?
And a lot of times he blamed himself for this. You know what I'm saying? And he works for me. I gave him a job. You know what I'm saying and a lot of times he blamed himself for this you know I'm saying and he he works for
me I gave him a job you know I'm saying and he does he does a good job uh or trying to you know
keep his ear to the streets but like we've been knowing each other since maybe like ninth grade
he mentioned blood and family so that's an example of someone that I'm not a relative of.
That's my family.
That's my family, and I got a lot of love for him, you know what I'm saying?
But, yeah, he one of them ones, you know what I'm saying?
And I'd be just like, I'd be backing my boy, you know what I'm saying?
I'd be holding my partner down like that.
That was hard. Yeah, this like that. That was hard.
That was hard.
That's true.
But two things, I'm going to be honest.
This is my favorite album you ever made.
And I believe everybody, if everyone knows
and just listens to this album the way I listen to the album,
and I did it three different times, listen to it.
Dead sober.
Okay.
No, no, no, first, I listened to it drunk, let's be clear.
Okay.
I listened to it drunk first, and I was like, man, it couldn't be this good.
Woke up in the morning morning took the ride again just rolled the bell hard but turned around yeah
just to listen to you out with a had lunch came back I'm this duck in and I
said dad do you consider that classic if? If not, don't worry, bro.
I got this.
Or your best.
Or your best. It's not my best.
Not your best.
So it's better to come?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I'm really talking crazy.
Let's go.
Let's go.
That's not crazy.
No, I'm saying like, this is like Virgo, black lingo.
Yes, yes.
When I say talking crazy, I'm like on these tracks.
Not like talking crazy.
Right, right.
I don't think this sounds believable.
I'm saying on these tracks that you're going to hear from me, I'm talking crazy.
This album that you kind of heard was me like clearing stuff off my plate for like the new stuff that I have coming.
So although I'm highly impressed with the stuff that's on there, I know what's about to come.
This was almost like something to like, you go to those those you go to them good dinners where
they have all these course meals and stuff like this so this would be a part
of this that would not be the the entree I don't think that's the entree as far
as but I'm about to put out this year that's my thoughts on that. I didn't mean nothing about the Virgo Black shit.
No, it's all good.
No, no, I understood.
But so we had Kanye sit in the same seat.
We had Jeezy sit in the same seat.
And all of them kind of allude to leaving Def Jam. But it doesn't seem like none of them is leaving Def Jam.
Are you going to, are you staying with Def Jam?
Because is this your last album?
This was your last album.
No, this is right here coming up, the one with me and Wayne.
Oh, and that's going
to come out on Def Jam?
Def Jam, Cash Money,
obviously, right?
Or Def Jam Universal.
Yeah, how was it?
It was a joint album?
How was it?
Slash works, yeah.
Right.
But that's my last one.
We'll see.
You know, we'll see.
Def Jam, I've been with them, they've been there for me.
They've had different management that's been rocky that I haven't been pleased with,
as far as what they have going on in 2022.
With L.A. Reid?
You didn't know, I mean, I've been there for-
Before that.
I've been there for so many, I wasn't even there for L.A. Reid.
I was, well, I was for a small period of time, early on.
But I'm talking about, I mean, I've been there for four or five different label heads.
And so, you know, we got a new one in.
What's my man name?
Tonda.
Tonda.
We got Natina over there.
Yeah, she's good.
We got Natina over there Yeah she's good We got Sharon
I like
I like
The personnel over there
I like the personnel
I can't front
That's my focus
Yeah they all good people
We'll see
You know they definitely
They definitely came
through a couple times for me.
So you know how that shit be. But at the same
time, I have enough
resources
now that I can do this
shit on my own, too.
You know what I'm saying? You can sign a
stem player on your own?
I can just
like I can just like, I can just like, I can just like, I can just, I have enough resources.
And Tony is like somebody else.
The name of the new labor head over there is Tunji.
But I'm thinking about an A&R that was over there.
But anywhere it go, I'm in a position now to where I can be on my own again, use the
resource that I have, still get on platform, still, you know, do what I need
to do without really having them as a, you know, distributor, you know what I mean?
But, you know, we're good. we got good business together no one owes anybody anything so we'll just see like that i don't even
and one of the last questions okay you finished one of the last questions what is your favorite
album that's a good one man it's crazy favorite album from me. From you, first. Oh yeah, from me.
From me, first.
From you, first.
Oh man.
Your favorite album or you?
And I was, let me see.
I've been, man.
So, okay.
You can go top three.
Well, you know, my first album was definitely a classic.
Grammy nominated.
Pretty Girls Like Trap Music was an album that did very good.
It was the first album where I well i literally freestyle the whole project literally
like before hearing the beat i was going to the booth and the first time i hear the beat i start
so you start you still don't write with lyrics down no i never wrote lyrics down but this when
i say freestyle when i say freestyle i mean like literally like first time anything in my ear so
with me i'm like i hear b
but that's when i get like so i do it so much that i try to do something to like challenge myself so
normally i'm hearing a beat i'm thinking of a rap in my head and i go in a book and lay it
doing pretty girls like chart music i would tell a producer i put the pressure on a producer like i
i tell the producer this and producers know i've told them this. I said, I want three beats.
And they'll be like, what kind of beats you want?
And I'll be like, the beat that's going to
buy your mama a new house.
And then for some kind of reason, they know
what beat I'm talking about.
And then
I said,
I only want three because I'm going to
freestyle all three of them. You know what I'm saying?
I just need three different ones. You pick the three.
I don't even want to hear them.
My engineer's in here now.
He probably can't bear it.
I don't even want to hear them.
I go in the booth, and I've been doing this since 2022.
I started back doing this again this year.
I go in the booth, and I hear a beat, and then I do something to it,
and that's how Vibe came, and that's how Good Drink came,
and that's how fucking everything came that was
on Pretty Girls Like Trap music.
And then on this last
album, the reason I really like this last
album is because
I was
mixing it up with the Young Boys, you know
what I'm saying?
You know, doing videos
standing next to them and you know what I'm saying?
Having that, you know, it was some I just like him, you know what I'm saying, having that, you
know, it was some, I just like the energy on my last album, I do.
I like, just, you understand how I made the storyline, you know, as far as the skit, as
far as the street shit, as far as all the trap shit, that's like the last time I'ma
be doing all that in one spot too.
So that's why I like it, because I'ma spread the trap shit out, like it's not gonna be
all on just one album.
We're going to have some soul shit with some bars and shit going on from here on out.
But yeah, those will probably be my three.
This one that just dropped, Dope Don't Sell Yourself, Pretty Girls Don't Like Trap.
I mean, Pretty Girls do like trap.
They do like trap.
That nigga's got me fucking.
But then, you know
Rapper go to the league
Is a good album too
And so help me God
All my albums are good
All my albums are good
Straight up
I agree
All my albums are good
I agree
Now
When is Atlanta
Gonna get out of here
You mean like
Like leave y'all alone
Like just go somewhere
And do something else Cause y'all niggas Has been running this shit For way too long Can y'all alone. Like, just go somewhere and do something else.
Y'all think this is running
this shit for way too long.
Can y'all put that torch out?
No, because we get it.
As soon as we see
the next little young dude
coming up,
we're going to all do
something with him for nothing.
Shoot the video for nothing.
You ain't got to call
the manager
or that old cap.
Except for theinidad James.
Y'all did him wrong.
What did we do to Trinidad James?
Y'all let him do a remix without himself on it.
That was wrong.
I was on the remix.
He didn't get on it.
Look, you didn't even notice that.
Holy shit.
I'm like, this shit hard.
Yo, listen, listen, listen.
I'm like, I want to get on this shit hard, too.
Yo, listen, I sat down with Trina J.J.
He sat in the same chair with you.
And I said, I said, yo, I think the tech weird went wrong.
And he goes, where?
I said, you did a remix without you on it.
Mad people on the record. You, like, this was your time to rhyme with them.
The niggas said, go with all of us and let y'all niggas just
drive them all over this shit.
I looked at y'all, I said, these niggas is bullies too.
Y'all niggas realize this nigga don't understand what he doing.
He didn't even get in front of one of these.
Actually, I thought Trinidad James really understood the game at this time
because his first video was so impactful.
It was impactful.
That's my man.
And even the things he was saying.
Gold on him.
Even the molly, I'm sweating.
All of that,
you know what I'm saying?
You took a molly before, right?
It's pretty cool.
No, I mean,
I call,
the drugs I do now,
I do plant-based drugs now.
You know,
I do shrooms and weed,
but I've done,
I used to, you know.
He's vegan on his shit.
Yeah, I'm vegan, but I get in my own world
and mind my own business.
Back in the days, you used to take a little piece.
Ain't no back in the days.
Yeah, yeah, back in the days.
Yeah, back in the days.
I popped a molly and I sweated.
A couple of times.
It was okay to me, y'all right?
Yeah. a couple of times. It was okay to me, y'all.
You pop that molly, man.
I do that molly,
then I be like,
you know,
I be trying to like challenge myself,
like have a strong mind.
So I be like,
shit,
I'm going to go to the,
you know,
gym.
I'm going to go to the gym
the next day.
I get up.
Shit.
You a different type
of get high, man.
I go to,
that's,
you know I'm high going to the gym. I go in there, up. Shit. You a different type of get high, man. I go to, you know how I go in the gym.
I go in there,
woo,
put my glasses on.
Why y'all got it so bright in here?
Why y'all got the lights
so bright in here today?
What the hell you doing last night?
I was like,
you know,
but.
Listen, man,
I seen Ja Rule,
I seen Ja Rule take an ecstasy
and then write,
are you always on time?
You witnessed that?
That shit ain't work for me at all.
Oh, the ex, he do the song off the ex.
Oh, ex?
Yeah, niggas be having a recipe when they come up.
Yeah.
The niggas got their own recipe now.
He probably was feeling himself and got that.
He probably made his voice a little silky or something right now.
Yeah, yeah.
He got sexy and shit.
What made you get into the Latino?
You started, like...
Because he's Latino.
The exes.
Nah, I'm just fucking with you.
I just wanted to ride the story.
But nah, I just, I fell in love in Puerto Rico.
But yeah, it was different, man.
Some people on Lean, they make Lean records.
Was you making Lean records when you was on Lean?
Mm-hmm.
What's a Lean record?
What's a Lean? Oh What's a lean record?
Oh, man, all my songs.
All my songs.
My first album.
All my songs was on lean.
But one thing that I've been told that when I was on lean is that I had a really bad attitude.
Really?
Yeah.
I've been told that I had a really bad attitude. I've been told I've been told that I had a really bad...
I've been told that, like, recently, like, so...
Because you was sleepy?
Nah.
It had nothing to do with the attitude.
I think it's... I don't know.
Because, Lean, you sleepy, and you ain't sleeping.
You could be cranky because you're awake
because you're sleepy.
That could be it.
No, man, you know one thing about the thing with Lean?
I started drinking Lean, and...
So, I have a my stomach is um like it's up before the before the lean must i guess i don't know i
don't know lean it up without my stomach so i was drinking lean and then um i started having
these little episodes where i would man i was like itended on what kind of food I would eat. It just fucked my whole day up.
Wow.
So I went to like go get this camera put in my stomach, right?
And I found out I had like, you know, like ulcers and I had acid reflux at the same time,
which is very painful.
Right.
And so they prescribed me promethazine pills.
And so I said, hey, doc,
think you can get me the promethazine to drink?
Because I'm not able to swallow these pills.
And he said, no, people have been abusing this stuff I said oh dude you know like
I said who was abused I said then I left and I said this is the I said the reason I must like
this shit because I guess it's been making me I know this sounds like a horrible excuse but I
I was this shit was making me my stomach feel better before I even knew I was, this shit was making me, my stomach feel better. Before I even knew I was having stomach issues, I was drinking this shit and it was.
Active.
Oh, before.
Yeah, before I even.
So the doctor gave you the activist.
No, no, you're saying you was already on it and it already made you feel better.
So I was an activist and then, but I was having episodes of certain stuff.
Like, so now I can't like drink lemonade.
I can't have like lemonade on, do.
Yeah, acid. A lot of acid stuff. I can't have like lemonade on, dude. Yeah,
acid,
a lot of acid stuff.
I mean,
I fucking flip.
Like,
if I drink a lemonade
right now,
my day will be over.
I have to go home.
I hold it.
So you can't drink
Ace of Spades?
I can,
but I'm talking about
like a straight,
like,
you know,
I like Chick-fil-A
got the lemonade.
Like,
they used to be
my favorite lemonade,
but then,
like,
I would drink
something like that
and I would be fucked up
But I learned while the time anyway
I got on the lean in between time lean was making me feel better when I go to the doctor
They prescribed me promethazine peels not the liquid. I'm already drinking the liquid
So then I started giving myself the excuse that maybe I'm self-medicating myself the proper way just through the black market
so medicating myself the proper way just through the black market.
Because when you look up promethazine,
codeine, all that, it's for nausea.
The real reason for the medicine is for nausea and other things like the stuff that my symptoms were.
That's what it's really for
if you don't drink a whole fucking pint of it at one time.
You know what I'm saying?
So I was doing that, and it was making me feel better,
but it was making me
a little,
I guess,
grouchy.
But I've done
all my albums.
The album,
I did a mixtape
called Codeine Withdrawal
so we ran out of
Lean in Atlanta
and I did a project.
That was my first project
without Lean.
Because they said
it's a rumor
that you brought
all the activists
in Atlanta.
Is that a rumor?
No, no.
So the dude
was going around
selling like
the rest of the pints because it was a rumor.
The rumor was that they was going to stop selling Ag.
The rumor was they was trying to say somebody got caught with the Ag, whatever,
and Ag needs to just shut this shit down because a lot of the young folks was fucking with it.
So this dude coming around with the pints,
and the pints that went up to a very high ticket.
$1,500?
Whoa, no, way more than that.
$1,500, way more than that.
But when he came through,
I probably bought about seven or eight of them,
you know what I'm saying, of the pints at that price.
And then I just put them up,
and I drank a little bit at a time,
and then I weaned myself off of it until I got, like, if I got a long international flight right now,
I'll fuck around and do something like that just so I can sleep.
That's the best sleep I've had.
You know, I did it one time with 8 Ball MJG in Japan.
In Japan.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was probably cool.
That was probably fun as well. That was Caesar, right? That was lean. Yeah, Caesar, yeah. Isn't it the same thing? Yeah, well, yeah. That was probably cool. That was probably fun as well. That was Caesar, right?
That wasn't lean.
Yeah, Caesar, yeah.
Isn't it the same thing?
Yeah, well, yeah, it's the same thing.
My first time even hitting the cup, I think, was when I was fucking with 3-6.
And then I got 3-6 had some on a video shoot with Luda.
And then Wayne was on it.
And I fucked with some.
But Wayne used to pour so heavy that it was like almost like a
slushy so the first time I drank out his cup it didn't make my stomach feel good it made it made
my stomach like kind of cramp up a little bit so I wasn't sure if I wanted to go there and then
eventually just over time I started being on the drink but it doesn't even interest me anymore
I'm not even like
you on that Deleon Reposado
let's go
I'm going to be honest
I've seen you from the beginning
and I'm going to take a shot to this last one
I can't be more proud of a person
you're grinding.
I started this interview off and I said,
you're a hustler's hustler.
And I mean that with all my heart.
Because,
like you said earlier,
with the DTP situation,
you could have been sour.
You could have been.
No, I got a lot of respect for him.
Yeah, yeah.
And what you did, how you bounced.
I don't even want to say bounce back,
but how you bounced forward.
You know, after that situation,
how you held it down,
how you just, you did you.
And for you to be where you at right now,
I sincerely, one million percent want to be where you at right now, I sincerely,
one million percent,
want to just salute you.
Thank you, man.
And say, great motherfucking move.
Great way to be who the fuck we are.
Because I don't have to diss anybody
to big myself up.
Yeah.
I love bigging me up. I love me. I ain't going to lie to you. Yeah. Like, I love bigging me up.
I love me.
I ain't gonna lie to you.
Yeah, you should, man.
I love me.
Like, I wake up with it.
I was like, I love this nigga.
You are hot.
Yeah.
And I can tell you the same way.
Yeah, I love me some me too.
I can tell you the same way.
I can tell you the same way.
And I'm gonna tell you something because you really grinded.
You really did what you had to do.
And I see you in photos with LeBron.
I see Kevin Hart yelling at you.
Which, by the way, I'm going to L.A.
I told you I'm going to L.A.
I'm going to L.A. to see.
But to see the level that you're at
and to see the people
and the levels that need to be,
respect you.
Like LeBron and Kevin.
I thought that was dope.
What the fuck was Kevin saying to you?
He was rapping?
Yeah, he was freestyling.
His shit was trash.
He's my friend. His shit was trash. Yeah. That man had me.
He's my friend.
You know, his first movie was with me.
Really?
Paper Soldiers, yeah.
His first scene, like when he walks in,
it's with the y'all.
Yeah, you blessed him.
You annoying him.
Yes.
I mean, so I'm meeting him on Friday,
but I ain't gonna lie,
the bars he was spitting to you,
was he chocolate drop or he was spitting to you? Yeah, they, they, they.
Was he chocolate drop or he was Kevin,
he was Kevin Hawkins?
He was intoxicated.
Intoxicated, for sure.
And you, and you film, and you like, okay.
I'm like, so, you know, by the time I'm,
you know, I'm, I, I, I don't think film first. I'm not from this current.
By the time I film,
that means this nigga
been doing it 10 minutes
or 15 minutes before.
I say, man, let me get this.
He kept going.
You know what I'm saying?
You're supposed to film that.
Yeah, so that's what made me do it
and everything.
But you know, Kevin is like,
man, it's cool to have.
That's my nigga.
It's cool to be in an era where all of us, like the egos, ain't, you know what I'm saying,
ain't really visible like that.
You can all go, we can all go to the game together.
We can all go to lunch, dinner together, kick it.
You got to think what our photo is going to look like in the future when people go back
and look like how, you know, you're going to know five or six people in the photo,
you know what I'm saying?
Like, they're going to all be, like,
famous in their own right,
a comedian, you know,
a comedian, a rapper.
You just fucked me up.
You got a comedian, a rapper,
and a basketball player
all in one,
like, at a high level.
You dig what I'm saying?
The highest level.
You look at that
about ten years from now
and that just looks,
that's just,
it's cool to be painting
those kind of portraits right now.
Well, you deserve to be able to fuck you up.
In case anybody else ain't tell you,
you're a motherfucking legend.
Thank you.
And you're staying steady.
So many people at your level, at your level of success,
they fall.
This is the time they fall off.
For you to fall up,
or not even fall up,
walk up.
Consistency.
And the consistency you did,
I want to tell you face to face, man to man,
we proud of you.
We love what you're doing.
We continue to support what you're doing.
You staying dope as fuck.
We going motherfucking dope as fuck. Keep representing you. We will continue to support what you're doing. You're staying dope as fuck. We're going motherfucking
dope as fuck. Keep representing you.
We fucking love you. Motherfucking
Drink Champs. And that's it.
We're going to take a picture
and some drops and that's it.
Yo, sincerely, from the bottom of my
heart, man. This is a great interview, bro.
Thank you, bro. Great motherfucker.
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on her journey. I never let that
little girl inside of me die. To hear this
and more things on the
journey of healing, you can listen
to Just Heal with Dr. J
from the Black Effect Podcast Network
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple
Podcasts, or wherever you get your
podcasts. AT&T.
Connecting changes everything.
I know a lot of cops.
They get asked all the time,
have you ever had to shoot your gun?
Sometimes the answer is yes.
But there's a company dedicated to a future
where the answer will always be no.
This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated.
I get right back there and it's bad.
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