Drink Champs - Episode 307 w/ Remy Ma

Episode Date: March 25, 2022

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legendary, Remy Ma!Remy talks about her journey in hip-hop and shares stories of working with Big Pun, Busta Rhymes, Big L & more!Remy Ma talks about her “Chrome 23” all female rap battle league, financial hardship and much much more! Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hopefully it's what it should be. This is your boy N-O-R-E. What up? It's DJ E-F-N. And this is Drink Champs motherfucking Yappy Hour make some noise and you know I'm excited

I'm excited one because we don't get a lot of females to come here and chill and you know play the game and smoke and drink

which are the funnest episodes which be the funnest episodes yeah when the females come she was on an episode before she was but I just want to describe her Man Relentless

Hustler of a hustler You know A queen You know A wife A sister I knew a A mother

Don't forget a mother A mother Holy moly Guacamole Bar lord I always I always be wondering when Doody, I do her and her husband battle when they argue.

We're going to find out. We're going to find out. We're going to find out, guys. But she is in this game and getting better and better and better. Just opened up a rap league. I heard it's like number one throughout. I heard there's so many numbers for females. We're going to get into all that.

Dominated the reality-filled world. Made everyone say, you know what? You can do this and not look stupid. And you can look strong. Black love. In case you don't know who the fuck I'm talking about. We're talking about the one, the only, Remy motherfucking Miles!

Thank you. That was dope. Now, I ain't gonna lie. I've been up for... Because we were supposed to have you last week. So I stalked Fat Joe to give me questions. And then I stalked Pat Poose

to give me questions. So they basically ghost wrote my interview, right? So I'm pretty much fucked. So, but I got my own shit. I got my own shit. But here and there, when you see me looking at notes, I'm going to see if you can figure out

which question came from who. All right, but let's keep it real. Let's get right into this rap league. What is it, a female rap league? It's a female battle rap league. Battle rap league. Battle rap. Oh, so it ain't like they in there saying hi to each other.

Nah, it's crazy. It's a battle rap league. Some of the nicest ever. Like pun voice. Right, pun voice. That's why. I started out in battle rap. That's what I used to do.

Before I even, I never even dreamed that I'd be a rapper. Let's just be a book. I can't even say before I dreamed of being a rapper. I never thought I would be a rapper. I never seen it as a career path. It was just something that i would do um i hung out with a lot of guys growing up they should literally take me to different people hoods to battle niggas and take their money they thought because i was a girl that you know like they thought yeah

yeah so it was it was free money like it was jordan money north money, every color G-Ink sport money. I was still in school. It's just something that I did. One of the only times that I've ever battled a female, it went viral before going viral was a thing. Is that you and Lady Luck? Yes. Okay, cool. That was before viral was a thing.

It was everywhere. Everybody heard about it, seen it, whatever, whatever. And when I went away, when I was gone, there was like this whole movement of female battle rappers. Like, it became a thing. Like, battle rap started, you know, planting its feet,

but there was a league with just women. So when I came home and I seen it, shout out to Queen of the Ring, shout out to Deebo and Babs and Vague. I was watching. I was like, yo, this is dope. It looked like a bunch of me's, a bunch of young me's. And I always was like, I want to do something like this because I would watch it.

And I'd be like, because I know the industry a little bit more, I knew there were things that I could do that would make it dope. I felt people needed to see this because I'd be telling people about it and they really didn't know. Even now, when I'm doing interviews about it or when I'm talking about it or people who tuned in the other night to my first ever battle that was live streamed on Hot, they was like,

yo, I've never seen nothing like this before in my life. Was there that many female battle MCs when you were coming up? I'm going to assume there was. They just didn't have a platform to battle on.

But did you see them yourself? No. I was the only chick that was dumb nice. I never ran into no girl. The only girl that I ever battled in my life was Luck. I never ran into no girls ever. It was just crazy to

see so many of them and just the different styles. They were from everywhere. The girls on my car in particular, we had one from... When you say your card, you're talking about your league. Yeah, my league and my card that I just had. It's like,

kind of like boxing. Like you have a card. Like who was on the card, who, the matches that I had, they was from everywhere. San Francisco, San Antonio, Texas,

New Orleans, Rhode Island, Bridgeport, Connecticut, Boston. And where did this take place at? It was in New York. In New York. Okay, continue.

In Damien Times Square. Okay, wow. Which made it even crazier because they haven't had a battle rap event in New York in like four or five years because they just used to get too crazy. Smack and Beasley from URL, they came out. They was in the building. It was just a really dope event. Like, the numbers was amazing, trending, number one in the country, number three worldwide. Like, they blowing shit up, and we was number three.

So, I was like, that's it. And it was all females. All females. And I think one of my main reasons of doing it is because I was always into it, but when I started getting to know some of the girls and seeing behind the scenes the pay gap between what the male battle rappers was getting and what they was getting was just crazy. So what you're saying, it's

like the workplace, like how they say females get paid less than the girls. It was disrespectful. They're getting $50,000, $60,000 and the girls are getting like $3,500. To me, the girls are way like 3,500. Bam. And to me, the girls are way more entertaining.

And they're way more disrespectful too. Very much more disrespectful. Very much more disrespectful, but they're way more entertaining. They don't choke as much. They become more prepared. I just feel like they needed to be packaged the right way.

So when I've been on it the past two months, I styled the hair, makeup, clothes, But let me ask you, when you get these artists to do, now are they signed to you or they can go,

they can still go through URL? They can go there. Like I'm not, I've been locked up before. Right, right, right. What are you trying to do? I don't want to lock nobody up. If you don't want to be here,

go ahead. I didn't even correlate. I don't want to lock nobody into no contract. I feel like when you good to people and when you treat them good and when your business is right, people going to want to work with you.

But let me ask you a question. What happens if you're walking through Chick-fil-A? You're going to the restaurant. You're at Chick-fil-A. A female comes up to you. She's very respectful. Remy, I know you're eating,

but can I spit some bars to you? She spits some bars to you. You literally take her From Chick-fil-A Yeah To fucking MTV BET's office

She blows up Everything Right You not gonna feel A little bit No I'm not Because if she Is she a real bitch like me

She gonna be like You know what Right I'm here This is you Yeah Cause if it wasn't for you This is that If she not

Then cool Right It's happened before Right It's people that I put in position and... It's not that. It's not that, but I don't care. I don't do things to get something back.

If I do something, it's just because I did it. It's just because I could. A lot of times people could put people in position and they don't because of that very reason. They feel like, yo, if I put them on, I put them in position, they ain't going to handle me the right way. And that's cool. That's not

going to stop my blessings. I'm still getting the blessings that I'm supposed to get outside of you. So, I've never, ever stopped anybody from doing anything. I'm always going to be the person that be like, yo, what you doing? I know somebody that could probably help you out here. Take this number. Tell them I sent you. Tell them that

it cost you nothing to connect people with the right person. Now, if you an asshole and you want to handle however you want and think, because people forget that. They forget. When they bleeding out and you patch their wound up, they love you then. But when it heals and the scar is gone, they forget about it. Sometimes they forget how they was bleeding out. And that's cool.

That's okay. I'm all right with that. I met Pun in 1999. I was still in high school. We're in 2022. And I'm good, so I can't really be mad. Hold on, because I'm bouncing around. But let's get back to the league right here.

Is there a scenario where it's only females battling, right? Because he won a battle. It's a female battle. You will get killed.? Because he won a battle. It's a female battle. You will get killed. I want to see. I've got gray hair. I'm going to get mixed. Female and male battling each other.

Yes, they do have intergender battles. I do plan on doing that. But I just want it to be established that this is a female battle rap league. So if you're a woman, you know, you're a pangol or whatever, you can come here. A lot of times with some of the other leagues,

like, they're male-dominated. Right. It's like the NBA. Like, I mean, maybe one day if a chick is super-duper

dumb nice, they might be like, you know what, she can come over here. Like, she might get hands on it. I don't know. But,

it's a place for women, but that's not, I feel the main reason why I want to bring guys in, because I feel like women are never really solidified until... They beat a guy?

Yeah. Yeah. Because dudes used to say to me, like, you sure be nice. I ain't for a girl, she done nice. And so they started seeing me volley and everything.

And they like, you know what? She's just nice. She's just nice. They started seeing me volley and everything. And they're like, you know what? She's just nice. She's just nice. And I feel like I don't ever want that to happen because people sitting in front of me

would go, those chicks was nice. They was like, yeah, watch when y'all see what they do when I put them up against some of the top dudes that's in there.

So unfortunately for women, we never really get our full just do until we take somebody down. This has to happen. I'm sorry that y'all like this. I don't know why.

We got you some wine. We got you some wine. Thank you. We want you to, you know. Because I'm not, I can't do this stuff. The regular street,

because this is black-owned, we want you to know. Shout out to the black-owned companies. However, I don't care if it was green-owned, purple-owned. This interview will be over in 10 minutes. I promise you, it's not my thing.

I don't really do that. So I won't be bouncing around all over the place for this interview. But one thing I noticed immediately, right, because I went through your discography. We heard, I'm listening to everything. And there was two things. One, I'm going to get to this part. Make sure I get to the Jay-Z part. Make sure y'all remind me.

I'm going to look at you so you remind me, all right? But today, one of the guys was playing, like, you know how you play a record and then it plays a record that relates to that record. Right. And ether came on right and i was like but i didn't realize because after ether comes on he comes on right so it was is that something that you knew that that was happening when you picked the ether beat yeah okay Yeah. Okay. There, there, there. Okay. Okay. It's just, it's like right now, somebody does something,

somebody curses somebody out, they put a, they make a meme out of it immediately and throw the ether instrument on it. Right, yeah, it's true. Like, it's just, that's what it is. It's funny, it's how I walked in the club

with me and Nas, I just told y'all earlier, and it was the first record they played and we just both looked at each other and we looked at the DJ like, come on, we just didn't want to, we didn't want to like, we didn't want people to be, you know, people nowadays,

and then, the worst thing we want, like, because both of us just looked at each other like, this is not appropriate, like, and we didn't want anybody in the world to be like this, look at Nori and Nas, yeah, so we, it's kind of hard not was like not to buy so it's kind of like that you would have seen like we was like school children we was like and it was like we communicated like like don't bop nigga like this it was funny it was at uh club what was it club 11 okay so all right that's one thing so you did know, like, and I'll get back to a different part of that question earlier.

Here's another thing that I noticed. I can tell through your bars, you're a big Jay-Z fan. Really? I can tell. Like, I can tell. Like, I mean, this is me as a journalist now. This is not me as an artist.

Okay. As a journalist, I can tell. So what was it like during that time when Joe and Jay really wasn't getting along? And I can tell he's one of your like during that time when Joe and Jay really wasn't getting along? And I could tell he's one of your, when I ask you your top five,

I could guarantee you Jay's in there. So how was that going? It was horrible. This is your favorite artist and it's your brother, right? It was horrible, my God. Yeah, I feel sorry for you.

Well, gotta do what we gotta do. It has to happen. But I think, also remember, I was really young when I it has to happen. But I think, also remember, I was really young when I started hanging with them. So it was weird

because this is somebody that I admired and I liked. And I'm like, and Pun did what? And wait, what happened? Like, I was just so confused. Like, well, why?

He's such a nice guy. Right, right. So when they, like, when they got to the place where they're at now, it was like the best time of my life. It took a while. Wow, that's an understatement.

But, I was so happy. Now I get to tell them all the things that I've wanted to tell them. I get to talk to them. I can take up the ice cream and act like I don't like them. It was very difficult. Holy shit. I could imagine. You got to get on a record

and everything. I can imagine, man. I'll tell you what, man. That was, that's one of the best things I ever did when Fat Joe called me and said,

yo, you got to get me in contact with Hov. And I was scared and I was just like, I said, yo, this is... What do you want to say? Because,

because just think about it. Why? Just think about it. If you listen to it, he shot South Shore on Back Outs before me, which I'm always mad about that. I'm always like,

Peck House didn't get you on the phone, y'all. Peck House been working for this man for 12 years and nothing happened. Y'all wasn't in the same room. I'm sorry, Peck House. It seems like I'm coming

at Peck House and I'm not. I'm coming at the situation. You coming at Jeff. Maybe. Maybe. No, you are. To me and Bleach. So he said,

he said, yo, please. I said, you sure? This is real. He's like, yo, this is real. We've been going he said yo please I said you sure this is real he's like yo this is real we've been going too long and I said you know what I was going to the breakfast club

so I called me and Bleak and this is why I know this is why I know God is real not to not to change it to a religious thing but I felt like God was testing me like

you ain't even rapping no more you ain't gonna get no Jay Z favor this't going to get no Jay-Z favor. This one Jay-Z favor, give it to your brother. And when I did that, my life has changed. I put someone else before me in a non-selfish way. And boy, nobody gets a Jay-Z favor. And if you get it, you don't give that shit away. You don't give it away, buddy.

And when I gave it away, It was like My whole life changed So I always I always love that I always love that But we're going to get you We're going to get you some wine We're going to get you some wine Where's our cup at?

You see how that Yes How that correlates With what I said about It's not going to take Anything away from you When it gets to the top Oh okay

Oh okay Okay let's go. Thank you. Yes. So it's like it didn't take anything away from you. Sometimes you get your blessings in a different way.

Yes. People, I think a lot of people today, they want instant gratification. Nobody wants to work. Nobody wants to put in the time. People see people and they see their success, but they never see what it took to get there. And then, not for nothing, there are some

people that get lucky and they just take off quick. But that doesn't mean that you don't got to put in the work. I have so many times people come to me like, yo, Ram, could you help me with this? And I'll be like, listen, I got a better idea. Instead of me giving you that right here, I'm going to put you in a position to where you do they don't want the position like it's crazy because I try to explain that people like nah people don't be trying to put their peoples on like now I'm gonna put you on but I'm gonna put you on to where I don't have to put you on no more like putting you on don't mean me just giving you five thousand ten thousand twenty thousand because that's going to be going I'm'm going to put you in a position to where

that $20,000 is going to turn into $40,000, $60,000 and you never got to come to me again. That's what's up. And people don't want to work. They don't want that. They want them hands out.

They like, but you got it though. Yeah, and I want to keep it. Fuck you talking about. Fuck you giving it to me. Fuck you giving it to you. You are Dominican today you You are Dominican today You are president today How am I ever gonna

How am I ever gonna grow I remember I had to be Still be a teenager And I remember Joe told me one day He's like You have to get rich friends

I was like what That was good advice I know that now Then I was like, what? That was good advice. I know that now. Then I was like, this nigga's a sellout. I thought this nigga was talking about, because when you're young, you be like, yo, I'm going to get money. I'm going to put everybody on. We're going to all fly out. We're going to all do this.

And then you realize, hold up. Yep. This is crazy. Yep. And then your friends become entitled. Like, I have people that literally were just locked up with me. Like, you in prison like let's be clear i wasn't even supposed to meet you like i was not even supposed to know you like that was an accident and they talked to like because some of my friends like i'm not gonna say most of my friends that i

hang with right now are my friends from jail. Like, because I know they fuck with me because they fuck with me. Like, they was risking being locked going to the box like to do shit for me when I was getting in trouble. Like,

those are my friends. But other people that was there with us, like, they be trying to press them. Like, well, if that's your friend,

why you working? Why you got two jobs? And I'm sitting there like, wait a minute. So, because you're my friend, that I met in prison. Let's be clear where I met you.

Like, we got fucked with you to the lowest. Let's just clear where I met you Like we all fucked you to the lowest Let's just be clear Before I even got to You know how many friends I met From school In my neighborhood Before I get to

Like I got mad cousins Aunts, uncles Siblings You know how far down the line I get before I start taking care of you So when you don't have to work Like but people really think that In their mind

They be like oh like If that's your friend Why are you working If that's your friend Why you don't have to work. But people really think that. In their mind, they be like, oh, if that's your friend, why are you working? If that's your friend, why you don't have a car? The same reason why my second cousin don't have a car. I don't know. It's not my fault you're pedestrian. That's not my job to put you on wheels. If I can, I will.

But sometimes people, they expect so much from celebrities. And it's just crazy. It's really, really crazy how nobody wants to work for it they just feel like you should just give it to them yeah they feel like they feel like like if you got it they should have it or like this you buy something like you buy a new car or buy a new jewelry they be like that's they think that that's their cue to ask for something this is the worst time to ask for anything I'm fucking having retail remorse right now. I'm trying to understand if I really should have

dropped this bag right now. Do not ask me for shit because you just see me buy something crazy. That's the worst time ever. But for some reason, in people's mind, they be like,

oh, now's my chance. It's really not though. And if you say you're going to borrow, if you say, can I borrow, that means you're going to pay me back.

I want my money back. I'm not going to lie. I got a friend right now. He borrowed from me three times. And I don't going to pay me back. I want my money back. I'm not going to lie. I got a friend right now. He borrowed from me three times. That's a lot. I don't want to go too far. Did he in the room? Nah, but did he

got mad at me? I don't even expect to pay back. He wouldn't tell us if he wasn't in the room. No, no, no. He's not though. I felt like you looked at him. Everyone knows him. And then he went through something else recently. And he put it on text and expected me to be like, well, I got you.

And I ain't say I got you. And we ain't speak sense. But that's crazy. I have a problem with that. Because the first time, they get used to it. The first time, they're like, oh, OK, I got it. Tell me to give it to you. Tell me, can I have it?

Yeah. That's real, too. If you tell me that, I got it. The second time... Tell me to give it to you. Tell me, can I have it? Yeah, that's the real truth. If you tell me that, yo, could you give me this and this and this, I will understand that. I'm not going to expect... If you ask to borrow something, if you ask to loan something, if you say, let me hold something, if you give me a date when you're supposed to give it back, when that date comes, I'm checking

for you. I don't care how much money I got. I want my money back. That's just it. I don't care. If I give you $2,000, I give you $1,000, I give you $3,000, I give you $4,000, you buy it. By the time you realize it, at the end of the month, you'll be like, yo, I got 50 bands out here. Nah, I'm calling

niggas. Hold up. This is getting crazy. You don't realize it when it happens because it'll be a little bit, $1,500, $2,000, $3,000. At the end of the month, when your accountant comes to you and be like, hey, what's this number? And you're like, oh, that's the wires and the cash apps and the Zells you had me send out. You're like, oh, nah, this is crazy. It just doesn't, how?

I want my money back. That's it. Anybody watching this, I want my money back. When it comes to artists, though, feeling entitled, do you think it's generational or not? Do you think it's them growing up on social media? Like, what do you think is a factor in the artist being in front? The artist being in front? I haven't met any artists that are entitled.

What do you mean by that? Well, you said that they want you to help them a certain way, and you're trying to put them in position. Those are the ones that are not artists yet. Those are the ones that's... Like, first of all, I feel like if you are not on yet, as people say, you trying to be in position,

there's no way that I should ever work more than you. Yeah, Pat said that. Like, it's true. We have this conversation all the time. Yeah, what he said was dope. We have, like, how is it that I'm all right, but I never try to not be all right ever again. Like, there's nothing worse...

Sidebar. There's nothing worse than being broke ever again. Like, there's nothing worse. Sidebar. There's nothing worse than being broke and famous. Yeah, there's two changes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jesus, yes. It's horrible. Yes, yes.

It's horrible. Like, when you're broke and nobody knows you, you're just a regular, not a broke nigga standing with the rest of the broke niggas. You're on the train. You're in for the bus. You're a friend of 21. You're H&M. Like, you're regular.

Everybody's broke. We all got that. I don't know why you did it. Oh, you fucked up too. Like, it was everything. It was everything. Everything. I can't do it

because now I'm back in prison. Who knows? Like, that quick. Confident. Well, we want you to know our show is about giving people their flowers while they're alive.

So we want to give you, we set up. We got a couple things. We got a couple things. We want to literally give you your flowers. You understand what I'm saying? We got him. We got him. Hold on.

We'll go to there. Because you a motherfucking queen. Come with the roses. You down with the team. You a motherfucking realist. Thank you. We want to give you motherfucking flowers. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank flowers. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. They last about 10 years. 10 years. They last forever. They last forever. Yes, yes. Forever.

Yes, yes. Forever. Lisa's 10 years. I'll go with, we'll go in the middle. Don't go with me. Don't go with me. We'll go in the middle

of 10 years and forever. Somewhere in between. And when Pap was on here, we had these watches and he liked one, so they said... Pap has, I gave Pap this. It's on my nightstand and I bang had these watches, and he liked one. So they said— Pap has—I gave Pap this.

It's on my nightstand. But he liked this. No, but I want it out of my room. Like, no, it's on the nightstand on his side of the bed. Like, boy. We didn't think about how they both were going to have it. Mine's not going on the nightstand. So I appreciate you guys. Thank you.

I have a place for things like that. It's a black owned watch company. They gave me an ear fit once. This is for you, I'm telling you. Yeah, that's for you, I'm telling you. Shout out to Tali. It's a black owned. You know, they know I'm a big watch guy.

I love watches. Thank you. Well, black love appreciates it. That's right. That's right. Make some noise for that. Since y'all get out. Make some noise for that. But since y'all getting out of here.

Oh, is it time for your- I brought some flowers of my own. Okay, yeah, yeah. Because by the way, I saw this market and this messed me up. So I have some flowers for you guys. This is my flowers. I saw those. I didn't know what this was.

My flowers. Hold up, hold up. Nah, that's called pussy charms. Pussy charms? Pussy charms. Look how you open it. You got to grab the- And it got a ring. It got a finger pop. You got to grab the ring. Hold on, hold on. Nah, that's called pussy charm. Pussy charm? Pussy charm. Look how you open it. You gotta grab the lip.

And it got a ring. You gotta finger pop. You gotta grab one. You gotta grab one. You gotta grab one of the lips. You gotta grab one of the lips. Oh my God, yeah. You have to grab one of the pussy lips.

She gonna show you? And then you just open it like that. Oh my God. And then you just stick your face in it. You gotta smell it. You gotta smell it. Roll it. Roll it.

And then. That is the secret. Oh my God. And then you just stick your face in. You got to smell it. You got to smell it. Bro, man. Bro, man. Yo, that is fire. Also, I see y'all have y'all pre-rolls. You told me this is really good. So y'all have y'all pre-rolls, right? Yes, yes.

But I have my pre-rolls. Holy shit. So this is a collab. That's like a past mirror. Pussy charms. It looks like a vibrator. Pussy charms and pizza push-up. I did a collab with him.

So these are the godmothers. Oh, wow. I listened to your song, Godmother, earlier. So I'm the godmother. That's a pre-roll. This is done. No, this is a pre-roll. Holy shit.

This is a Cuban cigar. Oh, wow. It's like a gorilla finger. We have them personally rolling it. Like, it's hand rolled. It looks like it. Wow. It has a nice little filter on it.

Enjoy. Yes. Holy moly. Could you say something nice about Arthur? You should just sit on that. Alicia Keys and Kanye smoked that. You know what I mean? It's cute.

It's cute? It's cute. It's cute. Okay. It's cute. Shut up, Smoke Jam. So what made you get into the cannabis business? What made you, two part question, what made you get into the cannabis business?

Who the hell came up with the idea for Pussy Charms? Okay, so for those that don't know, like before, prior to my incarceration, I was like the biggest, I was like Snoop Dogg, Method Man, Wiz Khalifa, mixed together. I was just a girl.

Okay. And then, of course, I didn't want to lose my trailer visit so I couldn't smoke. And then when I came home, I didn't want to go back so I couldn't smoke.

I was on parole for five years. So I was patiently counting down the days so that when I could smoke again. And then it's crazy because all the people that didn't smoke before I left,

everybody's pie heads down now. Everybody smokes good weed. There's all these different strains going on. I'm like, nah, I got to see what's going on here. So that was definitely on my list of things to do. I got to have the fire. I'm telling y'all. So you say.

I have a test over there. Did you vouch for thumbs up? He gave me a thumbs up. Okay. He lit. My shit is gas. But the Pussy Charms, me and my girl Flo, she came up with it. Jokes up?

Yeah. Yeah, jokes up, paid. We sat down one day and I was like, yo, this is what I want to do. So we were trying to think of different things that we could do. And it was just like a collaboration of just us sitting here thinking of some fly shit and I'm like, yo, what does everybody like?

Like, what does, what would draw people in? And then we started thinking of the design, I drew it out. I'm on Google, like pretty pussies.

Like, like just Googling shit. That must have been a hell of a brainstorm. Nah, because I don't understand. They need to, somebody need to control

that Google because the ones that was coming up did not fit't understand. They need to, somebody need to control that. Ooh, because the ones that was coming up did not fit the description. I was like, what? There's some crazy shit out there. But we came up with the design. I'm like, I want it to open in the middle.

I want the inside to be pink. That's real. All the different like details that came with it. I sent it out. It took me like two months to get it made because they're not easy to make.

And I went and picked my flour and then we linked with Pizza Pusher who, by the way, shout out to him, I went to his restaurant for the first time. No, in Manhattan. Oh my God, I was so stoned. Wait.

Wow. That's what it's called, stoned pizza, right? But I didn't know it was everything. I thought it was just the pizza. So I'm sitting there with my lemonade. Oh, the lemonade is infused too? I'm on a fake diet, so I'm eating my salad. But now I'm high.

The salad is infused? That fucking salad. That would have fucked me up. They're like, talk about greens. I'm high, and I'm like, is it in like the lemonade?

He goes, it's in everything. Right. What? I'm sitting here like, I done ate the ganja? He goes, it's in everything. What? I'm sitting here like, I done ate the ganja, I thought it was a garlic knot, it's a ganja knot. I done fucking ate the salad, I had two lemonades, I didn't even get to the pizza yet, so I'm like, alright, I'm gonna chill, I took a bite, I was like,

it's good, it's crazy because it's really good food. Right, right. And then the dessert comes, I'm like, yes, thank you, so it's like some gelato ice cream, I'm like, yes, this will cool me down. Okay, yeah. Why the fuck, it's in there too. yes, thank you. So it's like some gelato ice cream. I'm like, yes, this will cool me down. Okay, yeah. Why the fuck? It's in there too.

It'll bring you up. Yeah, it'll bring you back up. It's in everything. But I thoroughly enjoyed it. And then we started talking. And he has the Godfathers. Right. So I'm like.

Oh, like a Godfather's Cigars that you can smoke? It's just like this. And he sells it at the shop? He sells them. You got to go to pizzapusher.com. Okay, cool. He should have the Godmothers and the godfathers there. But the godmothers have,

the godmothers cost a little more. They have the same product as the pussy charms. Right. So, you know, you got the gas inside the godmother. Yeah, because I smelled that. And I like the way you had to smell it, too. Yeah, you got a sticky piece. Yeah.

It's a wonderful smell. It's okay. It's not the first time I'm sure No no Professionals take my face And it's A professional at that That is actually

You know what's crazy I can't see a man Selling dick Nobody would buy that Dicks are offensive yes yes yes that's true they're really offensive

I'm offended by them I'm offended you brought them as an idea no like nobody wants to walk around with a dick it's just there's just something

there's just something awful about it but even like with women it's a little bit different like you know even you don't have to even

be into women but it's not offensive it's okay I'm like cool cool with it. But, yeah, Godmother charms. You can follow that. Make sure y'all look

at that Godmother charms before they shut me down again. I had pussy charms, but somehow, someway. I didn't even post nothing bad. Like, I actually have other bags because

we plan on being dispensary soon. The other bags I have has the black scented stripe on it. So, I didn't understand why they took my page down. I was like, it's a little bit of pussy.

Wow. She ain't never hurt nobody. If it's cannabis. Okay. So let me ask you this. How many times did you go to the box when you was locked up? And how did Pat react to that? Three, and he was pissed every time.

That was his question, by the way. I think three. Well, the actual, like, to shoot, like, special housing unit or just, like, locked, period, because they have different levels of lock. There's keep lock where you don't go to the special housing unit. You're locked, but you're in your cell. I can't count how many times. That was a lot of times.

I don't even know how many times. But whenever it happened, I would lose my visits. Wow. I would lose, like, my trailer visits, my conjugal visits. Right. And he would come to visit me. And he'd be walking in. You know, that walkie guy.

He walks in. And he's like, I'm just watching him walk. And they're like, oh, no, Mr. Mackey, she's over there. And I'm in the other section with the suit on. He's like, are you fucking kidding me? So he could still visit you? Yeah. Well, you can only get a visit once a week when you lock.

You can't get before, though, like what I would do. I'm not even going to hold you. I would get in trouble. And when you get a disciplinary ticket, they have a certain amount of time that they have to process your ticket or they have to throw it out. So disciplinary opens at 9 and it closes at 3, something like that. And the visiting room opens at 8.30 and it closes at 3, something like that. And the visiting room opens at 8.30 and it closes at 4. So I would be like,

yo, be here at 8 o'clock because they can't pull you off a visit to take you to Disciplinary. So I would have him come at 8 in the morning. As soon as they call a movement, they take me to my visit.

I miss Disciplinary. By the time the visit hours over, Disciplinary's closed. So I beat a lot of tickets by just being on a visit every day. But it was this one captain one time, this fucking cocksucker.

He really was though, like seriously. He was like, because why would you do that? Like he seemed, like he was like, yeah, she thinks she's getting out of this one.

He came and waited. He stayed overtime. Like he didn't even get paid for it. Brought the fucking little tape recorder And all his little fucking notes And brought it to Shu And did my hair And gave me three months

Fucking bastard Wow So yeah that It used to be bad Because I used to feel bad Because he used to look forward To our conjugal visits Of course

I mean I mean yeah but People was acting crazy Like what the fuck did you do? Like, it had to happen. Right. Like, I'm sorry.

Like, next time, you know, I'll try. Like, she told what you want me to do. But I'm not that person anymore. Well... Yeah, no, you seem like a very... I don't be put

in those situations anymore. Like, I'm still the same person. I don't think I'll ever change, but I'm older now. I have different things. I have way more to lose. And also, You seem happy now.

I'm very happy. What people don't understand is when you go away, when you go to prison, it affects other people outside of you. And I just feel like it would be very, very selfish of me at this point. After seeing what it did the first time to do that to my husband

or my daughter or my son or just my mom, anybody ever again. They probably suffered more than me. After the first couple months, I was good. I tell people sometimes, I don't really want to say it,

but I have fun sometimes. In a can? What? Let's not make no noise for that. Let's not make no noise for that. Let's not make no noise for that. It's like this. I'm going to be miserable every day. Nah, you're right.

I'm going to want to fucking kill myself. I'm going to be depressed. Like, nah, I'm here. I got a friend named Ching Bing. He used to call me from the feds and he used to make me happy. I was like,

what are you doing in there? He used to call all the people and he was happy. I know Ching Bing. Yes, yes. He was happy and I was like, but I guess it's the same thing. He was super positive.

He looked at it like, what the fuck, I'm going to just be mad. I'm here. I'm going to just be miserable every day. Nah, what's up? This turnout is lit. Like, who's doing Thanksgiving coming?

Everybody gets 35 pounds. Man, I need to just go to the padlock or whatever. But yeah, it was different. So let me ask you, because we've all been locked up. I wasn't locked up and famous. You was locked up and famous. Was that more hard because the guards would want to be more mean to you? Or was it harder that you was famous?

Or you got a little perks here and there? Well, I don't have anything to compare it to. I wasn't locked up when I wasn't famous. So I don't really have a comparison. But I can say that it was some or both. I had some people that was just they fuck with me like they fuck with me or like remember where I was at it's the only um max female prison it's only about 45 to an hour outside of the city so a lot of the people from the town

it's not like when you're in Albion or you like them in Canada and you're dealing with a different set of set of people so a lot of people they knew my brother or a new Joe or new like them in Canada and you're dealing with a different set of people. So a lot of people, they knew my brother or knew Joe or knew like, knew Pat, knew somebody that there was some relation

or they was just a fan and showed mad love. And then you had those that thought that they was doing something because they was like in the upper hand. And I would just take the ticket.

Like, disobey that direct order, whatever other charge you want to add on to it. It's not happening. Like, I don't know who the fuck you think you're talking to.

This is not my life. Oh, you're in crane, you're in M8. For now, bitch, when I leave here, I'm going to have a very different life than you fucking carpooling,

Honda driving, bad weave, don't have fucking microwaving ass bitch like I do. What? What could you talk about? People used to try to make me feel like that. Like, oh, it's over for you. You're not going to be

nothing. You're not going to be this. That was my next question. Sorry to cut you off. Because everyone doesn't get the Tupac effect, right? Tupac became larger than life when he came home. He's the only one. But he had it rough in there, though. I believe he had it rough in there.

But it was an effect. It was a Tupac effect. And what I mean by that was his albums went up. He went up in stature. Which created this misconception that if you go to jail when you come home you're going to be like he's the only one that was able to come home

and immediately like be super lit. Well, because he's with Death Row they were already crazy so there's a lot going on. Even with Sean and we had Sean here too

and we spoke about this. I like Sean. I felt like even Sean he rhymed too soon when he came home. He couldn't find his cadence so it almost took away from the process. I think people was just hating a little bit too.

Yeah? Yeah. Hating on Sean or? Yeah, just trying to find something wrong with anything. Like we live in an era now where everybody got a fucking opinion. I don't like that shit. I like that when if you was a celebrity, what you said was what it was. Like all the celebrities say? They're right.

I didn't let regular people. You just got a phone and thumbs, so you got to paint the fuck out of here. I don't like it. By the way, this is Pussy Charms right now. I'm about to light up. This is Pussy Charms. Smoking that pussy? Yeah.

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all he knew was me he lived with me his whole life Right Like I'm not even I say it all the time Like I would have rather Went in when he was a baby And came home when he was seven Right Than went with Like it was a very

That's a very pivotal moment In a child's life When you're an adolescent Turning into a teenager Getting to know Into becoming to your own person I feel like it still has an effect On our relationship now

And it probably forever will. His life changed dramatically. But it's unfortunate that people don't think about that. You know what I'm saying? Like, people, they think, oh, well, the kid is with your grandmother. They're with their father. Whatever the kid's like. But he had to come visit me in prison like yeah he visited me all the time like he came on visits trailer visits all that they was come

stay for four days whatever and then would cry when it was time like to leave like he hated leaving because it's like he doesn't seem like well i can't just stay here with you right so um or you leave with me mommy yeah my stepson used to be like that a lot. Pap's son, he was, like, he would cry worse than my son. Like, I remember one time, we was on a visit. It was just, like, a really good visit that day. Like, we was just chilling, playing mad board games or whatever, and it was time for them to leave.

And he went and asked the girl, like, can she just come with us? Like, just for, like, a little while, like, can she come with us? And the girl was like, nah, she can't come. Like, he was, like, devastated. Like, he didn't understand. Like, I asked nicely, like, the guy was like Nah she can't come Like he was like Devastated Like he didn't understand Like I asked nicely Like why I didn't understand neither

Like he asked nicely Why I can't go But um Kids don't understand that They don't understand that Like I seen people Go away And they tell their kids

That they at school Or they at college Yeah I was wondering Why you ain't take that route Or college Cause my kids ain't dumb But you did get a college degree In there though I did get a college degree in there, though.

I did get a college degree, but I wasn't at fucking college. What the fuck? What kind of college is that? I wish I would have went to college. That's one of the things that if I could do it, I wish I would have went to college. When I meet people that are in sororities and stuff, my little sister went to college. And that's something that I would have... I like school. I'm like one of My little sister went to college. And that's something that I would,

I like school. I went to college. I'm like one of those people that went to school. And jail too. That don't count? That's a count. All right,

I got 24 credits. You didn't finish? I went home. I went home. You can finish now. Hey man, I was thinking about it. I was thinking about it.

I was really close. I definitely, I definitely think it counts Like It's real work I do real papers And real science And really same classes

Like we was As a little bit different Marymount Manhattan College They would have the professors Come up And sit with us And like you know It was a whole situation

We had graduations I see I got a lot to create I actually almost I almost Got my bachelors But like you I went home Then I went home my bachelor's, but like you, I went home then. I came home like six months early. I tried to start again, and what happened?

Oh, yeah, I got the ankle bracelet. When I came home, I was like, I'm going to do it again. And right around the time when I was supposed to start, I ended up getting the ankle bracelet, and I was like, I couldn't go. So you came home, had the ankle bracelet? No, I was home and then somebody said that I blacked the eye. Oh, shorty from Queens too, right? Damn, that was terrible.

Yeah, I didn't like that. Me neither. It was horrible. I didn't like that. I beat that one though. That's right. That's what you want to be. Now, I heard you got a crazy Annie Up story. Pap told you that.

You know. I know them very well. They're ninja boys. You always thought that was a crazy story. So, Annie Up, one of the records that changed my life. Like, I tell people all the time. I tell people a story about Any Up, but I never tell them this story.

I know which story you want me to tell you. Okay, thank you. When I try to explain to people that almost everything that I did in my career that got me to where I am now and that really propelled me into a different space, I did for free. Wow.

When I did Any Up, I didn't get a dollar. I didn't want a dollar. But did you request to be on the remix? This is a remix, right? No, no, what I did Ante Up, I didn't get a dollar. I didn't want a dollar. But did you request to be on the remix? This is a remix, right? No, no. What I did was Sean C. Shout out to Sean C.

Don't pick up Sean C. He was the A&R Loud Records. And I begged him to get me the instrumental because at the time, just Ante Up, the regular records. You were loud at this time as well?

I was on Loud Records. Okay, M.O.P. But I didn't have a record. I didn't have anything Punn had just passed I still had my record deal and we were trying to I wish I could bring

Punn back we were trying to figure it out I'm thinking that was something that was hooked up while Punn was alive so I begged him

to get me the instrumental I'm like yo get me the instrumental let me rap on it just get me the instrumental before they were thinking of a remix no I knew they were thinking of a remix? No, I knew they was

working on a remix. Oh, okay. I knew. Okay. I know. So you were anticipating that, right? Yeah, so,

but they didn't know me. I had never met them or anything, and he gave me the beat. I did the record. I'm like, okay, now, favorite number two. Get it to them.

Like, I need them to hear it. Yeah. So he did that And they thought I think they initially Thought I was like a boy They thought I was like a boy

Like y'all see I got this Barry White Shit going on My shit alone You know what I mean My shit alone So you didn't have A record out before

No Oh I never did that The only record That I had out Was Miss Martin On Pun's album But remember It came out After Pun had passed Okay So people had heard No. Oh, I never did that. The only record that I had out was Miss Martin on Pun's album. But remember, it came out after Pun had passed.

Okay, okay. So people had heard me like, yo, who's this chick on Pun's album? And I go, on record, on Pun's album. Right, right. But nobody had never seen me. Which is crazy. We got to get to that later.

Make sure we get to that later, yo. Mind you, mind you, oh, this is a little sidebar. I'm all the way pregnant I'm like a teen pregnant mom at this point when I send them this

so I send them the record or whatever and um I'm imagining you in the booth pregnant don't stop that was hard

that was hard no that's it that was hard that was documentary you don't buy a pic don't do that don't do it like that so um That was hard. No, that's it. That's documentary. They need a biopic. Don't do that. Don't do it like that. So we go to the studio.

They set up a studio session because they're putting the record together now. So it's me and it's Bill and Zanz and Busta's there. And Prodigy was originally on the Anteep remix. Rest in peace to Prodigy. originally on the Anteep remix. Rest in peace to Prodigy. Rest in peace.

And let me just say this real quick. They reached out to me to do a record for his project. I gotcha. They have not sent me whatever they need to send me. Please, I gotcha. I love Prodigy.

He's one of the few people that wrote me, sent me a book, everything while I was locked up. But he was on the record. So it's this big argument because he's on the record and he's dissing Jay-Z on the record.

You knew this? No, I did not know this. Like, he's talking about, I'm going to shoot up your continental T. Like, the verse was fire. So, you know me me I'm like yeah put it out drop it

let's go I went all the smoke and they kept it official they kept it Brooklyn like nah he not doing that not on our record like if you wanna

and I get it then I was young and I understand but now I understand that if you put out a record and you put somebody on your record and you're supposed to be cool

and you let them diss me on your record it's up for you when i see you yeah i learned that i learned that i have a bang bang yes up for you that's the equivalent of i got beat with a nigga you in the car and they shoot at me outside your car yeah out of your car window it's lit for everybody in that car. What could you talk about? So as a younger child, I'm like, let it go. Let's see what happens. They're like, nah, we not doing that.

We not so... Was they on Rockefeller at that time? No, they was on Loud. They was on Loud. That's why you said that earlier. It was on Loud.

It was even before that. Pick up that whole picture. Pick up that whole picture. Pick up that whole picture. They kept it official. Like, nah, we not doing that I'm like Alright cool

But Lo and behold A whole fucking Fight starts In the fucking studio Over that verse The guy who introduced me to Pun I met Pun

When I was walking home From school one day With this kid That lived in my mother's building He knew this guy Sunkist That used to hang with. He knew this guy, Sunkist, I used to hang with Pun. Sunkist, I remember Sunkist, the little diesel guy.

Yeah, so it was on America's Most Wanted or some of the shit. Jesus, I didn't know that part. Yeah. Him and Joe had a fight. Yeah, yeah, I know that. I know the playground. They met up.

Yeah, I remember. Crazy shit. Like, bro, you fucking fed Joe. Why you need to be with me when you're playing? What are you doing in the playground, sir? Crazy. He'll take a challenge at any day.

Like, oh, he got a push on that. I remember this. I'm glad he's changed. Yes, yes, yes. I'm glad the both of y'all changed. Because I got a story

about you two later on. Let's go. Continue. So, Circus is in the studio and the conversation ends up getting heated because we're like discussing,

should he be on the record? Should we take him off the record? I don't know what happened. Busta starts getting crazy. He's turning into the Busta Rhymes that we see on TV in the studio. I'm like, you know what? I need to get out.

Am I on the record? Can I leave now? It was just really, really crazy. So they ended up taking him off the record. The record ended up changing my life. It's a great record, which I recently found out. I didn't know that I had B for Busta behind this record. I didn't know. Oh, shit. No, no found out. I didn't know that I had Beef with Busta behind this record.

Like, I didn't know. Oh, shit. No, no, seriously. I didn't know neither. Me neither. I just found out. So, I'm going to tell y'all some quick stories. So, everyone knows who has the best verse on any album.

I mean, like, it's like... I mean... Shout out to everybody on the record but I'm just saying you know whatever whatever so Pap is doing

the Thought I Was Gonna Stop remix and has Wayne on it and 2 Chainz and Busta and he called me he's like yo babe

Busta wanna talk to you so I'm like okay and I'm expecting that my beautiful Gemini sister queen I love you

look so beautiful that's what I'm expecting that my beautiful Gemini sister queen, I love you, look so beautiful. That's what I'm expecting. That's what I get. And he's like, yeah, I just laid my verse. I want you to, I was like, okay, he's like, yeah, but you're going to see when it comes. I said, hold on, wait a minute. Is this a challenge? Like, yeah.

I didn't understand. The thought I was going to start remakes, that Pat just dropped. Okay. Bust is on it. The new one. Yeah, the new one. Okay, okay.

But the way he's talking, it's like we had prior beats. That's so dope. I was so confused. He's like, yeah, you're going to see. Did you hear me? Did you hear the... I said, oh, it's lit.

So now in my head, I'm saying, because Maju, I had a secret beef with him too. When he put out the Touch It remix and he got Mary and Rodiga and Missy. I'm like, I was the hottest bitch out here. Why didn't you call me? I'm thinking that. You were still so good with it.

Okay. Bang. This is so good. So, you know, if y'all want, y'all can go listen to the thought. I was going to stop remixing and see how that one went down. Yo, I'm going to be honest. That story is so dope because it alludes to what we were trying to say earlier. It's like, not she's nice for an MC.

She's nice. Period. And for him to even, like, challenge you like that or even, like, throw that in the air. I was so confused. Because people feel that way about him yeah because Busta gets on your record you know what's gonna happen

he's gonna take over the record unless Remy Miles on the record too fuck you talk about him but I was actually I was so shocked

I was like I hung up I was like babe did he just like come for me like I was like mind you the whole time

I'm talking shit to Pat like I'm gonna kill you on your record I'm gonna kill you I was like, mind you, the whole time I'm talking shit to Pat, I'm like, I'm going to kill you on your record. I'm going to kill you. I'm going to kill you. He was annoying me so bad. I'm trying to be in my battle rap league mode. I'm shooting a fucking, I'm filming Queens. I'm filming Wendy Williams.

I'm not rapping right now. Babe, I need you on this. He stopped pressing me. Yo, you real Hollywood. It's crazy Like I didn't even get This push back From 2 Chainz

Like I didn't even get This from Lil Wayne Like my own wife In my house I gotta keep asking I'm like yo Now this This is where I be

Digging y'all battle rap No He was antagonizing me It's fucking New Year's Eve I swear to everything I love It's New Year's Eve He's sitting there

Like this He's like I asked Lil Wayne once I had the record Within an hour 2 Chainz I swear to everything I love, it's New Year's Eve, he's sitting there like this, like, I asked Lil Wayne once, I had the record within an hour. Two chains, I got the verse and the video, no problem, my own wife. Wow, wow. It's crazy. If people knew, if the hood knew how Hollywood really was, like, now you're trying to fucking call my G-card.

But let me ask you, don't you got a studio in the house? Yes, but I didn't want to go in there. You was doing it dirty. Me, I was. You was doing it dirty. Leave me alone. Clean the house before the new year comes in. What are you talking about? I don't want to go to a verse.

Like, no. No, no, no. I hate that we have a studio in the house. I hate it. Do you know what my life was like? What? Living with a fucking rapper that recorded a whole, not an EP, a whole fucking album. Every month.

Every month? Boy, I'm not sure. You're never going to take out the garbage. Are you dead serious? You dead ass. Wow. This is fucking crazy. I'm sure you're retiring after this, right?

I can't take no more of this shit. This shit was nuts. Holy shit. It is fucking crazy. You sure you're retiring after this, right? I can't take no more of this shit. This shit was nuts. It was really nuts. But no, we don't, we don't even discuss music. Okay. We do not discuss music. I explain it to people all the time.

This started before we was even married. We was, I don't even think we was dating yet. We was just like friends, but we knew we liked each other. We was just friends.

And he asked me one day and he goes, who's your top five? So I'm thinking it's a regular innocent rap question. I didn't know my fucking life was hanging on a line. So I'm like, you know, my top five changes, which I think makes perfect sense because when I was in high school and I liked Jada and DMX and Jay-Z,

I didn't know Lil Wayne was going to exist the way that he exists. I didn't know about J. Cole. I didn't know about a lot of people that my shit changes over time. I tell him my top five. I don't even know who it was then. He just lets me say it.

He doesn't seem to lie. Then when I finish, he looks at me and goes, pun has to be rolling over in his corner. I was like what? First of all you don't even know pun. Matter of fact

you're not talking about music. I was highly offended. I wanted to fight. First of all you already know Bronx people and Brooklyn people don't even really fuck with each other like that.

So it was just like a weird thing. It's a straight miracle. Yes it is. I was like we're thing. Your marriage is a miracle. It's a straight miracle. Very much so. Yes, it is. I was just like, we just not going to talk about it. Especially,

then I realized, he puts himself in his own top five. Why am I even talking to this guy? He's a business owner. Dylah, Dylah, Dylah. Why am I even talking to him? Why? This conversation is going nowhere.

So we don't talk music at all Speaking of pun This is one of the questions He said Where do you think pun would be in the game If he was still alive right now? That's a fucking fat Joe question That's definitely a fat Joe question

Fucking Joe brush Straight off the Joe Burr 101 If pun was alive right now fucking Jobra show. Straight off the Jobra 101. If Pun was alive right now, I think, me and Pun, like, he always, he always wanted to try to have people saying shit.

Like, literally, like, he, I think he would probably be a ghostwriter for mad people. He'd probably have mad artists, and they'd all be dumb nice, but it's really him. Right.

Like, in all his different characters that he was and the different styles that he had like he literally he tried to change my name

like for two months like would not stop like could you imagine punk with a twitter no first of all

now let's now now that you factored social media poor punk would probably be in jail Like He would definitely

What? You don't think so? With everybody walking around with a camera phone Oh yeah He would definitely be corner camera doing a great Like he would definitely My poor friend He would probably be in jail unfortunately

Because he's out of full control. And he'd still be tweeting some house away from there. Yeah, I think he would have loved Twitter. I think him and Tupac would have loved Twitter. He would have loved IG, though. Like, oh, no, pun on TikTok. Oh, shit. Could you imagine pun on TikTok?

I could imagine that. I'm a Trula guy. I'm a Trula guy. I don't use TikTok. Oh, OK. Yeah. Fuck TikTok. Sorry.

Oh, yeah, that's all right. But, yeah, I could just see him, like, reenacting all the movies and shit like that. But I literally was just thinking about that for, like, 20 years. Right. 20, shit, 22 now. He passed in 2000. Yeah, And this is This is

This is one of my questions Did you ever see him sick? Because one time I was Well not one time When I was at the funeral You know I was so young At the time

They was giving like Everybody like You know a couple of minutes To you know Say their peace to him And I literally kneeled down And got on my knees And I remember Flex

Coming up to me And Flex said to me Rest in peace to Flex Rest in peace to Flex too By I literally kneeled down and got on my knees. And I remember Flex coming up to me. And Flex said to me, Rest in peace to Flex. Rest in peace to Flex, too, by the way. Damn, it was crazy. And Flex said to me, you know, the homie's not suffering no more. And I remember me being mad because I was so young. I'd never seen Pun suffer. I used to see Pun go through the

sleep apnea shit. And I used to think my story was boring. So I used to step my shit up. I was like, oh. That's the most disrespectful thing you could do like you're just snoring on me my brother then he'll come back and then I'll have more energy and then I realized he would do it again and it wasn't me at all but I didn't know that was sleep apnea I was too young so I guess my question was to say um you know, what Flex said to me was, our brother's not suffering anymore. And I was like, what do you mean suffering?

And I was so young and I could tell that they knew I couldn't understand. I couldn't comprehend. But now you got it. You're younger than me. I was younger than you. Yeah. So did you see it? See that?

Oh, okay. I didn't. I literally just recently I was doing an interview and i realized um how short of a time was you know when you're younger time goes slower yeah so like you feel like you was in junior high school you feel like you're in high school for 50 years right now four years go by so quick like you don't even realize it so So when I was talking to somebody, I was like, I realized that I didn't even know Pun a whole year. What? I didn't even know Pun a whole year.

I met him. It was like at the end of the school year. And then school had started again. And he passed away in February of the next year. So I didn't even know him a whole year. But I was with him literally every day from like the day that I met him.

Like, he's one of those, I don't know if he ever did this to you because you had a career and you was moving around. I was just, I just had to school. Right, right, right.

Which, no, like who needs school? You're about to be famous. You're going to be rich. He would say some shit like that. Which he was right. He was right. Let's make some noise

and be a knock on the door. He's not fucking right. I'm in school. What the fuck are you talking about? Stop it. You need school. I'm sorry.

You can't just clap because it's such a lot of clapping. I'm just crazy. You do need school. You do need school. I'm sorry. I need fucking school.

He meant you're right that you're going to be rich. But was it okay to skip school to hang out with Pony? Yes. I wouldn't change it for the world.

But I realized that I didn't know him that long. I didn't, but I was with him every fucking, he would hold me hostage. Right.

You got to know him. No, I couldn't go home. Do you understand? Like, I would be like, no, I have to go home.

He's like, what do you need? I need clothes. Take her to the mall. Take her to Fordham Road. What do you need? What do you, like,

anything you need, like, he would try to bring it to you so that you wouldn't leave. Right. I tried to, one time, I remember I was like, I tried to pull up, you know, like, anything you need, like, he would try to bring it to you so that you wouldn't leave. Right. I tried to, one time, I remember I was like,

I tried to pull, like, you know, my boyfriend, you know, I haven't seen, he's like, oh, your boyfriend, now you're going too far.

He's not coming over here. I don't even like him like that. That was a lie. Okay, I changed it. Never mind. But, he would literally have you there.

Right. I remember, like, when he passed, he was staying in a hotel in Westchester. And the night before, I was there. I was there sleeping

in his hotel. I think he sent me footage. It was Westchester, him swimming. They had a pool or some shit indoors. Go ahead, continue. And he literally had me there.

I was sleeping in the room. I'm like, Brock, I just want to go home. I want to go home, but I'm glad he did that because i got to i got to get to know him i got to be around him and see you know differently and all of these years i promised you until sometime last year i was doing an interview and i was like you know what i didn't know i didn't know him as long as i feel like i did but that goes with the age thing. When you meet somebody, when you're a kid,

like you literally could have just had one year of school with them. You feel like you was with them for a mad long. With somebody now, I tell people all the time, people are like, yeah, I know her from you.

You know me from where? If you did not see me in the past six months, you don't know me. I changed. That's a beautiful thing. I'm a different person. That's a beautiful thing.

Yeah, we was locked up together. I know her. No, you don't. Different person. Sorry, you don't know me. That's a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful thing, especially with growth.

Yes. If you're going backwards, it's a horrible thing. Or if you're staying the same. I don't want to be the same person that I was five years ago. I don't want to be the same person I was last year.

I just, I want to, you know, the goal is to elevate and to be better. But him doing that with you, you think it was his way of doing artist boot camp? No, he's just crazy. No, no, listen,

I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. This is what he, this is how he introduced you to me. That's how he spoke about you to me. He said, this is the female version of me. And pun though,

he was the nicest. Wow. pun though, he was the nicest. Wow. And like when he said, I was the nicest, oh, he meant that shit. Like he wasn't playing. At all. And he was like, he was so proud of you. Like, you know, I'm proud of you.

You know what I'm saying? Thank you. Because just to see like his vision, like God bless me because I don't want any other Terror Squad members or Fuller Clips members to feel any way. But the way he bragged about you was different. And at first I thought it was because you was a female. But then I heard you.

And then I said, oh. But this is the thing. I met you before Pun told me about you. Okay, go ahead. Put me on. So I lived in Queens. I lived in Astoria. Oh, wow. That's why you out of, go ahead. Put me on. So, I lived in Queens. I lived in Astoria. Oh, wow.

That's why you're out of control. Jesus. That's why you wasn't out of control. Astoria's a bad place. Okay. I lived in Astoria

from, like, when I was, like, 10, 11, so I was about, like, 16, 17. Mm-hmm. So, it was me,

my friend Monique, and my friend Monica, like, rest in peace to Monica I actually had birthdays in like a couple of days and like we was like we were like popular

we were like the popular girls right so one day you and Capone come out there and I guess the room was like you know

we supposed to be fire whatever and y'all come right and you're standing there and they introduce y'all this is Rhyme this is so and so and you're standing there and they introduce y'all. This is Rhyme. This is some song. You're like,

so this is Sugar Hill? Like, I don't even know what the fuck Sugar Hill came from. I'm just so confused. Like, what? Like, what are you talking about? Like, first of all,

like, we're a mom defense. So I don't know what this thing is talking about. First of all, y'all just come over here trying to be web copy, right? I don't know what you're talking about. But from there, I used to see you all the time. Like, I went to, that's how I know Changbing.

I used to be with DeLorean. By DeLorean, yes, yes, yes. I came to one of your shows one time. I think we was, I want to say we was in Connecticut. That's my number one market. And, yeah, it was a big,

it was a big brawl. Sounds right. Yeah, yeah. Sounds like your number one market. No, it was crazy. It was so crazy. But, who was,

somebody had lost their chain. I don't know, somebody had lost their chain. I was going crazy. I was like, yo, these niggas is really crazy. But, who are, somebody had lost their chain. I don't know, somebody had lost their chain. I was like, yo, these niggas is really crazy

and I was so confused because I knew where you was from and I'm like, that is such a nice neighborhood. I used to go to Sizzler all the time.

down the block, yes, yes, yes, Sizzler, we had Red Lobster too. We had Red Lobster too. Red Lobster was on the corner

and Sizzler was really big. Sizzler was cheaper, I. And Sizzler was a little bit down. Sizzler was cheap. I could afford Sizzler's when I was younger. And I was like, he's such a nice neighborhood. This guy is really crazy. And then when I met you again later on, and you was cool with pun, I was like, he makes perfect sense. He's fucking crazy.

But outside of me joking, I was always a big fan. I remember one year you was on, you was in the parade in Harlem. Yep. And we was waiting for hours

for your floats to come. That's when you had like, what, what, what, what? Yes, yes, yes. So we go, me being the pothead that I was, we wait mad long.

I'm like, fuck, I know it's a spot down the block, so let's go get some buh-buhs. By the time you come back, you should be here. So we coming from the spot I'm rolling up and we just here. I'm like, is that? Yo a spot down the block, so let's go get some buh-buh. By the time we come back, he should be here. So we coming from the spot, I'm rolling up, and we just here. I'm like, is that?

Yo, what I tell you, we chased the flow down. I promise you, I chased the flow down just so that we could watch you perform. So to see you in the space that you're in now. That's why. I want to tell you,

one of my first times meeting you is Joe, I believe Pun passed away. I'm not sure. But it was your session and I was doing a hook. I don't know if you ever used it. But I came late. I came like an hour late.

And I was really into Bronx women at this time. So I brought a Bronx girl to the session with me. Bronx Latina. And as soon as we walked in, you said, is this the reason why you're late? And the girl just left. She was so scared. She was like, that's Remy.

I said, yo, she was so scared to death for you. I was like, wait a minute. Like, what the hell's going on here? She's like, I'm from the Bronx. You don't understand. She just laughed. She doesn't like me. And I don't know if you knew her or not.

She thought you did. Maybe. It's possible. That's who you was. I did a lot of things. I'm not too proud of. I would never do that right now. I would never do that.

I would never want to make somebody feel uncomfortable like that. But, you know, I grew up. I grew up with a lot of guys. Like, seriously. I don't have, like, you know, since I've been married, I haven't really seen any of my guy friends anymore. Right. Strange thing. I don't know what happened.

It happened. It's not the same. When you're married, like, it just seems weird when you have a bunch of guy friends. Like, Pat was totally cool with it and he's okay with it. But to the outside world it's crazy because they don't understand that people feel like if you have a guy that's like when I tell you I

literally have people in my comments sometimes like oh she posts him more than her husband because I post Joe a lot but we work together a lot but I feel more comfortable with male friends like that's how I grew up so I was a little rough around the edges.

Like, fuck, this bitch is where you lay? Like, I probably was really highly offended. Like, what? No, you were. I believed you. You didn't get waited for you?

I believed you. You come here. You came here with her? Yes, I believed you. She's not even fired. No, she was fired. It was from Suze. It was from Suze.

It was nice. It was from Suze. It was from Suze. It was nice. It was from Suze. What did you say? You didn't say anything? No, because I didn't realize. You didn't understand what was happening. I didn't understand

what was happening. And Terrence Carr was the only people I would come around with no other crew. Like, I could come around by my dolo. Yeah, because you know

you're good. Joe would come around my crew dolo. Like, that's it. He don't have to have no crew. He still does that to this day. All right, so before we go to Quick Time time with slime who else tried to sign sign you other than terrorist squad oh god well i know when i first um when i when pump first passed

like it was i was getting so many different calls like it was somebody from from naz camp that was reaching out swiss andum was reaching out. And Joe was like, and I was, I was not really sure what I was going to do because Pun's not here. This is who,

like, when Pun passed, I didn't really know Joe like that. Joe, Joe didn't, like, Joe was starting

to mature already. Pun was still fucking crazy. Yes, yes. So, and when he, when he was gone, I didn't know

where it was going to happen. I didn't know if the records that we had there was going to make the album now because he's not here to oversee it. And people was reaching out

to me like, yo, can we have a meeting? Can we talk? And I remember it was at the funeral and Joe comes to me and he goes,

I know right now you're not really sure, you know, what's going to happen. You're probably, you know, questioning, you know,

where do you go from here? He's like, I got you. I was like, okay. He's like, nah, I got you.

Like, you good. You all right. Like, you Terrence Scott. Pun said, you Terrence Scott, you Terrence Scott.

I'm like, okay, I guess Terrence Scott did it. But, I mean, I don't, and it wasn't that I didn't believe it. It trying to score. I'm like, okay, I guess I'm trying to score. But, I mean, and it wasn't that I didn't believe it. It was just like, I'm from the Bronx

and I'm a HUD check. I don't believe, we don't believe anything. Like, he talking, he sad. He going through something right now. He's just trying to console. Everybody's trying

to console each other. But now, you know, 22 years later, like, we talk about it all the time. I'm like, yeah, I really feel like in another life, like, we talk about it all the time, but I really feel like in another life, like, we were connected.

Like, I feel like most of our biggest moments are intertwined somehow, some way, which is cool. I love it. Like, he's my daughter's godfather. I'm still gullible,

like, to a certain extent, and what I mean by that is I still have wishes of seeing all the Terror Squad members together. Yeah, those are wishes. Those are wishes. Those are the Terror Squad members together Yeah Those are wishes Those are wishes Those are wishes

Definitely wishes Yeah You know I truly do Because Listen The happiest I've ever seen Pun Was around his crew

Yeah But this is the thing What happens is And this is what I had to realize, because when I think back, we go through so much when we think that we're grown. What happened with us, we all were forced to grow up really young. You feel old right now.

Sometimes we feel old. I'm like, you're not old. Shut up. You just feel old because when you was 15, 16, 17, you was doing shit that grown people do. I talk about my you're not old. Shut up. You just feel old because when you was 15, 16, 17, you was doing shit that grown people do. I talk about my son and my kids. I had my son when I was really young.

The shit he asked me for, if I'd have asked my mother for his age, I'd have probably got knocked out. Shit would have probably popped on me. By the time I was his age, I was literally taking care

of my whole family. We had different responsibilities. We were doing things That adults do At very young ages We was in the clubs We was in the streets So now

That we're at that age It's like oh I'm old Because you feel like You done did everything But we really not old But we were so fucking young I was so young I was still in fucking high school

When I met Pun Wow I was still in high school When I did met Pun Wow I was still in high school When I did Andy Up That's crazy And And it's so crazy Because now

People We've grown And people are setting their ways They have their own things And sometimes What people don't understand When things happen to you When you're really that young

It fucking traumatizes you And I feel like Some of the things that happen, it's not that it can't be fixed, it's just like, it's no point of fixing it, if that makes sense. Like, nobody benefits because nobody's really

distraught. Well, there's a couple of people who are like, bro, get over it. What the fuck? But, for the most part, I feel like everybody's in their own space, in their own world, and it might do more harm than than better like in my opinion that's real and this is this is this is actually a question it's true you stay out of the way with puns wife and all the controversy with joe how do you feel about this situation Us The fuck That's stupid Like bro I'm

Let me tell you I changed Right But I'm still Like I changed a lot Deep inside I'm the same person

No my shit Not deep inside My shit is like A paper cut away Like Somebody rub my shit We're like No no

Don't talk to me Like yeah But I'm really Not this like My first Thing is to resort to violence. Like, I cannot take disrespect. I cannot take, like, so. And I feel like a lot of things that I know

and a lot of people that know certain shit, they be trying to change narratives. Once time goes by, people try to change narratives. Like, even with his kids, like, people are like, yo, you should do this. Like, his kids were really, really young when he passed away. And I feel like some of the things that they think or that they know about him is some things that more that they were told as opposed to that they experienced.

And people just, people are always going to feel a certain way. Like, even now, like, I'll post Joe. Like, not so much now because Joe, he's kind of turned into Joe's kind of turned into this character that's bigger than life. I think he's probably the most famous that he's ever been. He's still here right now. I like hanging with him, because it takes all the fame off of me. I'm like, fat Joe's over there. You need to pick up on me.

He's really, really famous. But prior, we were in a space when it wasn't as much as it is now. People would come up. Whenever I'd post him, people would come on my page, and they'd say, like, shit, like, oh, he needs to be doing this. And people don't understand, like, it's been so long that even our kids aren't kids anymore. Like, the kids are adults with kids of their own. Like, if Pun was alive, he'd be a grandfather right now. Right, real talk.

And when does it come not be the responsibility of you know like that like even like with my own son like people like oh he is a whole grown person that does what the fuck

he want to do like if you once you start smoking drinking sucking fucking all that like I'm out of this like my baby my financial responsibilities

are no longer in play anymore like that's just the rules that I live by I'm sorry like and I think My financial responsibilities are no longer in play anymore. Holy shit. That's just the rules that I live by. I'm sorry. What? And I think it's just a touchy subject because Joe feels how he feels. She feels how she feels. I know how I feel about it.

And to just avoid those shit, I just stay out of it. I don't want to rub anybody the wrong way. And like I said, knowing that, I didn't know him as long as I thought I did. But he never did nothing but good for me. You know what I'm saying? So can't nobody ever talk bad about him to me.

Yeah, me neither. You can't tell me nothing about this man. I don't give a fuck what you say, what you try to show me. To me, he changed my life. He changed my life. When I signed my first deal, I took half of my advance and sent it over there. Like, here, that's for his kids. Like, I don't know what else y'all got going on or whatever feelings y'all may have,

but I can't play a part in that because can't nobody tell me nothing about this man. Like, he changed my life. And a lot of times I think people go through that and people are like, oh, this person is a bad person and this person is... You can't tell somebody

how to feel about somebody to them. Like, maybe you may have that experience. And that's why I also get people to benefit of the doubt because people are like,

oh, she did, so he's this type of person. He might have been like that to you. Yep, that's what I always say. What did you do to get that? Like, not to me. Not to me. Yep, that's what I always say. What did you do to get that? Like, not to me.

Not to me. So it's hard for me. And I feel like a lot of times people want the respect and the accolades and want you to praise them because their relationship to a person. But when you talk bad about that person and you try to throw dirt on this person's name when you cause harm to to their legacy it's hard for me to give you the love or for the same person's name like it just doesn't make sense to me like people they'll be i see i see wives do it

all the time they'll break up with their divorce their husband he's a piece of shit he's this he's that but then want to keep the last name and want me to give you some type of car belongs or treat you especially way because you was the wife no you told me he was a piece of shit right you don't like him right so i can't like you you got to pick which one you want do you want to slander this person or do you want to lift them up i feel like a lot of things over the years um with pun i just i just don't i didn't understand the the narrative or the the goal that people were trying to trying to feel like everybody was was was taking your stance for me and minding their business and i think the part that made people take take pics was when she put out that tape.

That tape made people say, nah. I get that. I get that. But like I said, I see that and it's horrible and it's the worst thing and you should never do that.

Right. But this person changed my life. Mm-hmm. I've never seen that ever. You know what I'm saying? Right. And then you go, okay,

if that is how you feel and this is what you, the picture that you want to paint, how can you then want me to compensate or take care of

or show love or do whatever on the strength of the same person's name? Right. It's really a conflict of interest. Yeah, it doesn't make sense to me. Right. It's just really a conflict of interest. Yeah, it doesn't make sense to me.

So I'm just going to do nothing because they've never done anything to me. I wish the best for this whole family. I would never, ever want anything. Like, I know them the same way. If I was around him every day, I was around them every day because he had family with him every single day.

You understand what I'm saying? Yep. And, like, I was really young. I don't know a lot of things. All I know is what I saw. And none of us has experienced this. Like I'm older than you, but I'm not experienced with this. I don't have this.

I don't have no other example of this in my life. Right. You understand what I'm saying? So I heard a rumor one time. I ain't going to say who. You can of course say. And they just said, well, no, he just does whatever Fat Joe says. And it's just like that's not the truth.

I ride with Joe, whatever. If I feel Joe was wrong, it ain't going to be public. It's going to be between me and him. Because that's one of my best friends. Well, one of the problems of today is everybody feel like if it doesn't happen on social media, it never happened.

I get into it a lot with people that I know because I didn't shout them out on their birthday or I didn't post somebody that passed away. Nigga, first of all, I just think that's fucking weird when somebody passes away.

When they passed away, are you with them? I'm on my way too. When somebody passes away, I'm not... I'm going to say too Yeah when somebody Passes away He's like I'm not Who said that Did your uncle say that He said I'm gonna be posting pictures

Of me when I pass away That was hard I'm not searching Through my phone Trying to find pictures Like I don't I don't even wanna talk about Like my grandmother passed away

Like I was like Oh I didn't know Yeah cause then I'm not posting my grandmother I don't want nobody To send like If you know you know Like I don't wanna be like

Hey guys Sorry I've been off Social media for a week because my grandmother's like, that shit is just weird to me. People that cry in the phone, weird to me. All that shit is fucking weird.

I look at you crazy. I don't care if you ever cry on social media, you put up a video. Trust me, when I see you, I may say hello, I may dab you up, but I'm looking at you

like you're fucking crazy. When you walked away, we talked about you like a dog. People that I know, the only person that I probably post, I might post my husband or my daughter because she's a baby,

and Joe. Joe and sis. Joe, sis, I need the love. I need people to know how much you love me, please. Like, it's my first, so I'm literally forced. Okay.

But then I have other people that know like y'all you ain't even throw me up on your birthday first of all let's just be clear i charge people a lot of fucking money to post shit on my page you want to post on your fucking birthday i'll invoice you bitch like because you don't act real aggressive right now like i don't i don't give a fuck about social media. Like, I don't. Like, I have friends that literally, they're like, yo, you don't brag enough. What? Like, to me, it's just crazy because I'm just different. I grew up around a different type of nigga, different type of people.

The dudes that bragged about shit, they were like cornballs to us. Like, you was like, you was a bozo. Like, you bragged about your car. You were like, actually, you were probably going to get robbed. Like, oh, you was a bozo. Like you bragged about your car. You should be like, actually, you were probably going to get robbed. Like, oh, really? You got what? Get him. Like you was a mark.

Like you was a stain. But it's just hard for me. Like I'm not like literally. I have one friend. She said, I'm coming to your house. Fuck that. You don't want to stunt. I'm doing it. I'm going in She's like I'm coming to your house Fuck that You don't want to stunt I'm doing it

I'm going in the pool I'm going in your closet I'm like that To me That's not cool to me Like I don't I don't get I don't feel

I don't even feel Comfortable doing that Like it's just It's really weird to me Like when people come Like I don't even like People taking pictures In my house

Like I don't even like People being on live In my house I be like Who you talking to Matter of fact, let's call you a noober. It's time for you to leave.

I don't want you on live in my house. I don't want to post the inside of my crib. I don't want to post my cars. I don't want to post my Jerry. I don't want to post any of that. That's just super,

duper weird. But we live in an era where that's what people do. That's the thing. And, you know, to each his own. I'm just a different type of person. But be clear, I'm not broke. Is that the record?

Just because you don't see it. So y'all ready, y'all? Y'all ready, y'all? Come on. Wait, wait, wait. We're talking about the rules. This is called Quick Time with Slime, right? Okay.

All right, so the rules is this. You're smiling. I don't like it. This is everyone's favorite part of the show. All right, we're going to give you two choices, multiple choices. You can pick one or the other. Okay. If you pick one or the other.

That's it. That's it. You're good. But most of the time, people want to be politically correct. So if you're politically correct You say both If you say both Or neither

You take a shot Oh no But you can do the shot of wine And we're taking the shot And we're taking the shot with you And we're gonna We drink it hard We still for a long

We drink it hard I'm probably I'm probably not gonna care Okay I'm almost positive I'm not gonna care Everybody says that Yeah

Everybody be lying I really don't to kill you. Everybody says that, but... Everybody be lying. I really don't care. What you going to do? Beat me up? All right, cool. Hold on. You got an unopened bottle of my Moana? Hold on.

Is that what it is? Jesus. Let me get a light. Let me smoke a godmother to this. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. And you ain't parole, for sure. Even if you're not parole, you live in New York.

There's none of that. None of that. That's crazy. Oh, come on. Trem on forever. Oh, yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. You can't even drink alcohol,

which is legal. Yeah, that's what I'm... But if you're on parole, you can't drink like that. Yo, that's where they turned it because now you can smoke if you're on parole. Which is crazy.

That's crazy. If you're on parole, you can smoke, but if you're on parole, you can't drink. That's crazy. Maybe it makes sense. You know why? That is why. Alcohol does shit to me. That's crazy. If you're unparoled, you can smoke, but if you're unparoled, you can't drink. That's crazy. Maybe it makes sense. You know why? That is why.

Alcohol does shit to me. That just goes to show you. I'm telling you, that shit is bad. It's bad for you. All right, so I'm going to get my shot ready. My shot's ready.

All right. Hey. Seven grams. But zooming on that godmother right there, that shit is crazy. Because I'm going to cough. Seven grams is crazy.

If I smoke this I'm a corp You're not gonna corp It's very smooth Do you see the filter That's in there It's very smooth Okay so I'm gonna smoke

Mine's at the Don't try to smoke It like a cigar though Let me just give you A smoke of like You gotta smoke it Like it's the yala yala Yeah like it's the yala

Okay Queen Latifah or MC Lyte I remember you took a shot Of wine Of wine Latifah Can I explain why I remember you took a shot of wine Latifa can I explain why? yes I love them both

I actually talk to Light more but when it comes to like the grandstand I've always looked up to La I super looked up to Light and I talk to her all the time she's like a sister to me

but I feel like with La she was the first one that looked like me. She wasn't like super light skin, curly, wavy hair, down the back,

size two. She had her own talk show. She had her own record label. Pick up you and Joe. Hold it down, Wendy Williams too. Hold on. I've never watched

a Wendy Williams show in my life. I watched it. I'm sorry. She was a fucking cover girl for crying out loud. She was like when the makeup commercial

came on, that was La. She did Broadway. She transcended. She did so much that I just feel like she's here. She's here.

La is here, but La is just like she's just in a space of her own. Iai is here, but Lai is just like, she's just in a space of her own. Like, I think a lot of people that know, probably don't even know

that she was a rapper. That's how far gone she is. They don't know if she's sure. I gotta give it to Lai. Not to take enough time away from her. Rakim or Big Daddy Kane? Kane.

That was easy, huh? No, it wasn't. I love Rakim. I love Rakim. Okay. But I know Kane would do it right now. Right. Right now. What? What happened? Right now. I don't know if Rakim I love Rakim Okay But I know Kane Would do it right now Right now

What happened Right now I don't know if Rakim Would do it right now Did you see Jordan And Magic Johnson See each other And Jordan said

Put on your shoes I'll take you right now Like what What happened Like where did y'all go wrong Like they just said Hi to each other He's like

And we just choose Like he's still in competition I see it right there Because I know Kane Would do it right now. Kane might too. I don't know that. I know right now, Kane's going to go.

Okay. Think of me later that trying to take your shots. No problem. This is cool for us. Tupac or DMX? I'm taking a shot to this regardless. X. I'm taking a shot to that. X. Cheers.

And now, you want to explain why? Or you don't... I love DMX. I love Tupac. I never met Tupac, but I love him too. I never met him.

I never met neither. DMX is the only person on the planet Earth every time. Not sometimes. Not most of the time. Every time I seen this nigga, he made me fucking cry.

I don't cry. I'm not a crier. Like, if I cry, move. Go away. Get far away. Like, I'm pissed off. This shit about to get flipped up.

Like, every time I seen this man, like, he just, the shit that he was saying and the passion, like, and his, his his his intuitiveness to know like what you needed to hear at that moment was just fucking uncanny and every time i seen this man he made me cry like and it was it was like no you go to church i don't know what's

the last time you were sure every time i go to church it's weird till i cry when i go to church so i'm like i'm like why the fuck am i crying i'm thinking about all the bad shit i did like damn i gotta go to hell i don't want to go to hell it's hot i don't church, it's weird, too. I cry when I go to church. So I'm like, why the fuck am I crying? I'm thinking about all the bad shit I did. Like, I'm going to go to hell. I don't want to go to hell. It's hot. I don't like when it's hot. This is the shit that goes through my mind when I'm in church. I'm like, I will die in hell.

It's so, I fucking can't even take the summer. I don't want to go. You're not going to hell. You're not going to hell. I don't think so. I feel like I did enough. But when you're in church, it starts making you think about, like, shit. I don't know if I'll meet the qualifications and shit. Like, I don't think so. I feel like I did enough, but when you're in church, it starts making you think about, like, shit, I don't know if I meet the qualifications.

It's just like, I don't know. Do they got cash after church? I don't know if they have cash after church, but the last time I went to church, I'm going to tell you, it really fucked me up. I walked past a room probably about the size of this room,

and the entire room was filled with ATMs. It was a room, like, ATM room. See, it's not that far off the question, right? And I was, I was offended, though. Like,

I was just like, what the fuck? Like, It's a cash business. I don't like it. I don't like that. But, DMX,

just because of how he personally made me feel. Fire. And rest in peace to both. Yes. Fab or Jada Kiss?

Kiss. I love you, Fab, but Kiss. Okay. Y'all see what he been doing? I think it's on that verse. What the fuck are you talking about? What the fuck are you talking about, nigga?

All of y'all niggas are fucking Jada now. I understand. I'm happy. That's one person I'm happy getting spas. He gets so much money. Every time I see him, I go to his face., I go, this nigga's getting so much money. And I love it. 2022.

Sometimes it takes a little bit longer to get your bag. I love it. I love it. He's a spitter. Biggie or Big L? Biggie. Yo-Yo or Lady of Rage? Just going to not let me give me an explanation.

Just going to let me, like, I can't. Oh, man. Because it's a quick time. Oh, yeah, yeah. I can't. Oh, man. Because it's called Quick Time. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't care about the quiz. I don't care. You definitely gotta explain it. If I'm not taking no shots,

I'm gonna explain it. Okay. I was actually on Big L's album. It's the first gold plaque I ever got. Yep. Yes. After he passed away?

Yeah, I was on the Trabbo. Song's called Trabbo. It was me and him and fuck, I can't think of the other person because I'm officially starting to get high now. Right. But that was the first plaque I got. It was from the Big L album. Big L?

Really? I was on the Big L album, but Big is just different. Changed my life. Yeah. No, he changed my life. Yeah, I was. Like hearing him change your life? Changed my life.

Everything. I thought I was big. I was in the Bronx one day hanging out with a girl, right? Obviously before I was married, guys. And she said to me, this shit turned my life around. She said, it's boring.

I wish there was a Biggie song out. She described the Biggie song like it's like Great Adventure. Like I was just like... It was a booed. And that's what I made Superthug. Mmm.

Because I was like, I want that. Like, she was a bozo. She didn't know what the fuck she was saying to me. That nigga changed the whole image.

She apparently knew something. She didn't know what she was saying. But the more big my favorite rappers, and not saying that they wasn't anymore, but like,

I was Snoop Dogg, fucking Ice Cube. That was the fucking West Coast hat shit. Glock. Nine times out of ten, if you was listening to rap in your car, that's what you was listening to. When Big came out,

nigga was like, wait, what? He talking about robbing people in a train? Shit that you really go through when you know you get on a train and you got to take your fucking earrings off because niggas is fucking crazy out here.

Like, what? Old New York City. Right. Old New York City. Right. Shit, new New York City now. New New York is wild, wild west right now. Shit is giving me very much back

to high school days where you had to fucking tuck your fucking book bag underneath your coat and zip your coat up so fast. It's COVID, niggas. We ain't hurrying up. This is crazy.

All right. So, did we say Yo-Yo or Lady of Rage? That's what we left off. Rage. You want to give it? No, you don't need it. I like both of them. Okay.

Rod Digger or Eve? Digger. Missy or Lil' Kim? Kim. You ain't going to make us take a shot at all? I fucking know what the fuck I like. All right, all right. You're going to have to force yourself to the top.

That's all. That's all. I love it. I love it. I know what I like. I like both of them. I ask questions with you. Everybody obviously likes both people.

Yes, yes, exactly. But niggas be up here lying. They can't fucking have to see the person. I see Missy Black. But niggas be up here lying to kids if I can have a seat or something. I see Missy Black. Missy, you really tight because I said Kim? You like Kim. We all like Kim.

I love that shit. I love that. That's real shit. Wu-Tang Clan or D-I-T-C? Sorry, Joe. Wu-Tang? Wu-Tang Clan ain't nothing. You got to go with Wu on that one.

You know how long it took me to get to that snap? It was like off beats to me back then. What snap from that song? Because the way that went It was like off but it was fire off. You keep mad at hip hop.

That's some real hip hop shit. There's some dudes in the room that he catch on to. That's some real hip hop shit. D-, yo, listen, there's some dudes in the room that ain't catching on with the fuck. That's some real hip-hop shit. D-I-T-C, that's Joe, that's the Nats, that's all of them.

I love them all. Showbiz, OG. Love y'all. You talk about Wu-Tang, he's bad, baby, in certain areas, you might get jumped. Yeah, we love y'all.

We want y'all on here. Shout out to Tone, my security. The nigga's obsessed. With Wu-Tang? What? Yeah. I fucking,

I bought this baby like a fucking Wu-Tang? What? Yeah. I fucking, I bought his baby like a fucking Wu-Tang onesie when he had his daughter. You'd have thought I bought him a fucking Gucci bag or something. Like, bro, it's $10. Relax.

Calm down. It's exclusive. Okay. Podcast or radio? Podcast. Let's make some noise for that guy. Let's make some noise

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New Jack City. Hmm. I have to explain that one. Yes, please. Juice was fire. But New Jack City, that shit changed people's life. That's the Carter, right?

That's where Nino... That's where Nino... Rockabye baby. Nino had the Gumby that wasn't... Don't you go telling me no again. I want to say true. Oh, that's color me bad Color me bad You changed

All this live You so fire Everybody Christopher Williams Everybody that was On the soundtrack I ain't gonna lie I wanna take a shot

For that because I ain't gonna lie That explanation Is just so fire Even though That was real Well it changed People's lives

Juice was juice Juice changed my life I was gonna do That shot Juice changed my life Not in a dude That shot him In the 80s After the movie So Juice changed my life Not in a good way though No we seen how Fucking

It was like Our first time Really getting to see Pac How we wanted to see him You gotta sip it Or it don't count And Okay

Boom But New Jack City That shit changed Like That shit changed Everybody Every crackhead Was called Pookie

From him From that point on To this day If your, every crackhead was called Pookie from then. From that point on. To this day, if your lips is ashy, you're Pookie. Chris Rock killed it. That movie made a lot of stars.

It made a lot of stars. It made the people that was on the soundtrack stars. Just the way they was dressing was so, like, from here. New Jack City all day. They should do that movie over. I want to be Keisha. You could totally be Keisha.

Capital punishment or yeah, baby? Capital punishment. And I'm on yeah, baby. But capital punishment. Do you know what it was like the first time niggas heard fucking capital punishment? That was the first time

people heard about it. Niggas could not believe. I remember being in the box like, what? I'm about to throw a new radio right now. My rewind button is about to be fucking broke.

It was so dope like the shit that he was saying on there. Yeah Baby was when he evolved and he started making songs. And he knew like the way you need it for the clubs

and for the radio. I feel like Capital Punishment was just, I feel like every artist that's really a rapper, rapper, their first album is always the rhymes

that they was running around tearing up the streets with like running down on there just rapping and that got people's attention. Every album is, their first album always comprised

of those records. That's why sometimes after the second one it be getting kind of wack because now they got money. You know what Capital Punishment remind me of? Food budgets.

One was the first nigga that showed me, you got a food budget when you booked the studio. I went to the studio. He had 500 pizzas. I was like, there's no way. I was positive. I was positive he went over the food budget. You got to say, I'm chill. I went there.

He was like, but I'm not. And I was like, wait a minute. He was like, no, no, no. This is all there. He was like, and I was like, wait a minute. He was like, no, no, no. This is all free. I was like, but I don't know. It's not really free.

It's not really it because you don't know that till later. You don't know that till you don't recoup. You're like, yo, you remember that Mr. Chow's

you ordered? Remember that 500 pizzas? Remember that 500 pizzas? LA or Miami? Let's be 500 pieces? LA or Miami? Let's be careful now. You or Miami? LA. I feel like you just did that

because I was slightly... No, no, no. When I come to Miami, I come to Miami to work. This is where I create. Like, I lock in with Kool and Dre. Almost every hit I ever made in my life, I made here. Wow. From Conceited to Lean Back, all the way up. They were I lock in with Kool and Dre. Almost every hit I ever made in my life, I made here.

Wow. From Conceited to Lean Back, all the way up. They were all here. So this is all work. So when I come to Miami, it's to get away from everybody because no one's going to bother me here, but it's work. When I'm in L.A., it's like most of the time I go to L.A. is because I'm having fun. Even if I'm working, it's for fun. Okay.

So, and it's just different. I feel like a lot Miami I can relate to Miami LA is so different from Right How we grew up in New York And I just think it's dope Like they talk different

Different accents Different slang Just different everything I'm that type of person I like different shit I'm going to go to LA tomorrow MTV Raps Or Video Music Box

That was a dumb one That was the hardest one I want was not even a hard decision. I want to know which way you're going. Video music box. What the fuck are you talking about? That was a dumb question. You see, I'm brown. We're from the hood. I love that.

Do you see the documentary video music box? No. It's one of the best. Did you see it? No, I haven't watched it yet. By the way way Showtime And Mass Appeal They got like Three documentaries On Showtime

All of them is hip hop And all of them Is fucking awesome But Start with the Ralph McDaniels Video music box You want to tell me

The video Oh so they got One of those They got a documentary Listen so And it's crazy because Which documentary is better MTV or

Video music box No there's no MTV one. He just said it. No, no, no. There's no documentary. But the Video Music Box documentary... And you know what's so dope about it? Is you get to see Nas go back into fan mode.

Nas is interviewing everybody. It's his documentary. So he's interviewing Ralph. It's like Ralph is the big homie and Nas is the little homie. Which is so dope to see. I gave Pap a birthday party. And Ralph hosted it for me. Ralph. Like, this shit is, and like, it's like, Ralph is the big homie and Nas is the little homie, which is like, so dope to see. I gave Pap a birthday party and Ralph hosted it for me.

It was like an 80s, it was an 80s party. Damn. I gave him an 80s, early 90s party. Damn. I had Milk perform. Milk is chillin',

get some old chillin'. Milk is chillin'. And I say the top villain. Dougie Fresh performed. What? Um, Black Moon performed. Oh, my.

Grand Poobah. You're getting a lot of money. I'm just wondering. When he came through, when I tell you Pat was, I think he'll tell you. Because he belonged in the 90s anyway. He belonged in our era. I'll give him 89. I didn't say he was the rock of my era.

89. The latest, 93, get him out of there. But it was so dope. He had so much fun. I'm sorry for anybody that I might have forgot to name that performance, but it was a really dope party. Now, in any category you want, Kanye or Pharrell? Kanye.

He's a Gemini I'm just being biased Gemini's I'm just being biased My wife is a Gemini So I know I understand you crazy motherfuckers People always say that

Now we got two Geminis Listen listen See Pap tries to say that same shit too Right But if you knew I was crazy You know all this shit That you say about me All this bad shit

And y'all dumbass vowed To be with me For the rest of your life What the fuck You're listening to What the fuck What says that about you You say

What does that say about you He's crazy Who are you Really Damn I gotta look at myself In the mirror now Yeah Wife

Right in his back When you start talking like crazy shit to me, you're like, what does that say about you? You say all this, but you want to be with me forever. Yes, I do.

Kendrick or Cole? Cole. You want to explain or do you have to? Leave it alone. I like Kendrick. Okay. I like Cole too,

but it's just mine. I'm going to just go with Cole. This one, females is going to... Doja Cat or Dream Doll? Hmm. I like Dream Doll. She's really nice. New York City.

No, she's... Not because she's from New York City. No, she's just a nice person. I like that. She's a nice person, too. I had my battle rap event the other day. And the doors opened at 3. The show started at 5.

It was supposed to be over at 8. I think it went to like 10. I invited her. She RSVP'd. She came before the doors even opened. Because she had another event to go to. I guess she didn't know about it prior to the time, but she just wanted

to show face, like, I really wanted to come and support you. So she came before the shit even started, popped in, like,

that's like some real shit. Like, she didn't have to do that. She was like, couldn't make it, I'm going to my event, whatever. Like,

I look at shit like that like differently. It makes me look at the person like, damn, like, she really wanted to prove because she could have,

I don't think I would have even thought about it like that but you could send a message like yo I couldn't make it something came up people think you bullshit and she

went out of her way to come there even though the shit hadn't even started yet just to show face like listen I'm here to support you if I could support you

if I could be here I would be here but I'm not I could come now I know I didn't start yet but I'm here so I just wanted to announce that

that was so dumb let's make some noise for Dream Girl let's make some noise for Dream Girl. Let's make some noise for Dream Girl. Let's just bring it to a close. A lot of times, you don't get that from girls that's just starting.

They be so scared to feel like they sucking your dick or they suck, so they don't want to show love. They don't want to be too, like, so, just so for that alone, I fuck with her.

Yeah. But Doja Cat, I don't think she's a rapper. Let's be clear with that. I don't, they put her in Doja Cat, I don't think she's a rapper. Let's be clear with that. I don't, they put her in the rapper category. I don't think she's a rapper, but she makes dope records,

and I think she's dope. That's what's up. So I'll go with Doja. The Source or XXL? The Source. XXL was more like the Hollywood type version It was like the

Better version The The But When the Source Was what the Source was The original right Nothing was fucking with the Source

When Benzino Was at his peak With that fucking Source Big Benzino up Niggas was Losing their lives In the studio When you was recording your album

All you was thinking about Was five mics And the Source That's all you was Fucking thinking about You fucking thinking about how many mics you was gonna get trying to get the cover so it's like i remember trying to get the cover at double xl but that cover that source that shit that shit means something so and i think a lot of times when certain shit come out and they create this thing like they're bigger or they're the ones that are still around people tend to be like forget what it was fuck the Source

they had the Source Awards and the Source Awards was fire so you went to get anybody that was talking shit on the record when you thought they were subbing you

Source Awards they gon' be there and I never won no Source Awards by the way I won like four I think I got like four thank you Remy

for making me feel better about myself. I didn't think about it like that. Lean back was pretty a big deal. It was a big deal. It was for all my lean back awards. Oh my God. Maybe one might be for conceited, but the source awards,

they had a fucking award show outside of the bullshit. That shit was like, that shit was the pinnacle to be at the Source Awards. That's what Suge Knight said. If you don't want to be all in your,

that was like a, a lot of moments. A lot of moments happened at the Source Awards was a moment. It was, I would love to see a documentary in the Source.

They trying to do it, but I don't think Benzino and Dave Mays could get along enough to, I tried to step to them with Homie from Cooking Cowboys. No, it's not that.

It's not that they can't get along enough. They're not offering them enough money. No, they can't get along enough to... I tried to step to them with Homie from Cooking Cowboys. No, it's not that. It's not that they can't get along enough. They're not offering them enough money. No, they can't get along enough. They're offering them enough money? They can't get along enough?

No, because they separated now. Pick them both up. Zeno and... I just feel like... She might be right, though. I feel like... A bag makes everybody get along? Potentially.

It's not get along. I tolerate you. I tolerate you. The bag and the right production company. The right people doing it. I tolerate you. The bag and the right production company. Yes. The right people. That's the right production company. It might have been too early. Because we met with Zeno and Dave

and they was listening. Yeah, but that's when they was together. Okay, so moving on because we're going to get out of here. French or Ross? How much is I got to drink? No, just a tiny bit. Just a tiny bit. Just a tiny bit.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, shit. She's taking a shot. Finally. Nah, I'm going to be honest. I equally love them both a lot. That is so fine. Hold on.

Hold on. Cheers, cheers. Salud, sis. Salud. Salud. Hey! I'm surprised. that shit so good I thought you was gonna be

The first one To get through it all I know both of them I know both of them From before Any of us was big Wow that's fire Like literally

I have stories of me and Ross When nobody knew Who Rick Ross was Stories of me Like French used to do karaoke In my house In the projects with me Holy shit

Literally like Ross I met him karaoke in my house in the projects with me. Holy shit. Literally, like, boss, I met him. He was smoking weed in the projects in my staircase, in the back staircase. Wow. Fire. I don't even know if you remember that shit. Like, them niggas, I could call either one of them right now.

I need a record. I need you to do the video. I need, like, and it's going to happen. Like, I can't. It's very hard. Two people. There's a couple in the industry, because, you know, it was going to happen. Like, I can't, it's very hard. Two people, there's a couple in the industry because, you know, niggas get up

and they start fucking acting stupid. Like, y'all, if I smack the shit out of this nigga, I'm going to die. Holy moly. See, this, hold on.

All right, well, this one, I don't know where you're going to go with this one because you big these both up. Oh, gosh. Who, Pap or Joe? No. Oh.

Damn, I'm going to add that. No, you're not. Sorry, you're not on there. You should have said Who, Pap or Joe? No. Oh. Damn, I'm going to add that. No, you're not. Sorry. You should have said I had this on there. No. You're lying. Mob Deep or M.O.P.?

It's another shot, Rem. Don't worry. It's a shot of wine. It's not crazy. It's not a shot. You don't fucking know that. It's fucking bad. Like, my tolerance

is very high. I just got over parole. What the fuck? Okay, so let me explain, right? So, So, first of all, M.O.P. changed my life. It changed my life.

Physically, it took my life and changed it my life. Physically took my life and changed it from what it was to something else. With one record, with one feature, with trusting my craft to be on their record. They didn't know me from nothing.

The only record I had had, I think it had a lot to do with pun. When they found out, like, oh, it was a girl that was on Pun's album, I definitely think that. And please, give yourself props

for your drive to get on that record as well. Oh, I wasn't playing. And let's be clear, you killed that. Thank you. Because if you ain't kill it, if you ain't go after it, you would not got it. Like Ma Deep, I told you the years that I lived in Queens.

That's right. You came to see me and told me you was Ma Deep, man. So, didn't bring you that. Listen, they lived down the... I saw them. I saw them, like, I saw them, like,

becoming what they was. Like, I remember one time, quick story, this kid, I was in the Bronx. Remember, I told you I lived in Queens,

so I used to be back and forth. That was really the QB, Queens in the Bronx. That's the real QB. So, look, I'm in the Bronx this particular weekend

and this guy is trying to rap with me. Now, you mean rap, like rappity rap? Like battle me. Like he's like, we're going round and round.

Okay. But he don't know that on the weekdays when I'm in school, I live in Astoria. Right. We going back for it. I'm killing this nigga.

Then nigga goes to me, sure they don't find you better act like you with it, frightened like you never did it, bitch admit it. I said, you fucking bitch admit it. Because Mark D was low back then.

He didn't know. He took the edge. So he thought I didn't know. Nigga tried to kill me with hitting from the back. So I was like, it was so embarrassing. If I would have been from Queens at that time, I wouldn't have known. You got to take a shot for that. Anyway, that was hard.

Nigga tried to kill you with hitting from the back. Mar, that was hard. The nigga tried to burn you and hit you with a mom's feet. He burned me in the back on the palm of his hand. That is crazy. That is crazy. Because I would go back home to the Bronx on the weekends and I went to school

and stayed with my mom on the weekdays. Story is right next to Queens, but they had just came up with it. I don't even know how this nigga knew that shit. That shit was like

cracking it all up. Fucking house party. So yeah, I can't it. I don't even know how this nigga knew that shit. That shit was like cracking it all up. Fucking house party. So yeah, I can't pick. I love both. This one I think is probably going, I'm not sure if it's easy for you or not. Because you New York City just like me. The locks or dip set?

The locks. And I love, I used to go to Jim's house on Sundays and have dinner. He wasn't even there with his mother. Love them. I probably just talked to Jim's house on Sundays and have dinner when he wasn't even there with his mother. Love them. I probably just talked to Elle's mom the other day. Love them.

But the locks, once again, I was older. I kind of came out around the same time as them, so I got to see them do it. The locks, they made me want to rap. Wow. Dumb, DMX, fucking Hov, Big, everybody that was at that little pin, Mase, they made me want to rap and be nice.

Fire. K-R-S-1 or Coogee Rap? Ah! That was a good one. I'm gonna go ahead and load myself up you can load yourself up but I'm from the motherfucking Bronx more Karis White

okay okay alright this is the very last question MG Rap is one of Punz's favorite rappers yup that's what I thought

was gonna be hard nah I'm from the Bronx What was you talking about I got to represent for something Niggas ain't got I'm never going to be Niggas like Willie Ramp I have to go through the hood

I still pop out I'm outside Yo Kersmo just dropped a new album And it's dope Hell of dope He told me He was out here Yeah somebody told me

To come do his show I was like man Tell him to call me If he called me I'm coming. He's going to be 90 years old. And still be dope. And will fucking smoke somebody.

Absolutely. I watched him on that versus. I was like, what is wrong with this man? Yeah, there's a step. Yeah. When he screamed and Roxanne said it straight,

but why would you say that? We're going to talk about your verses too. In 2022. Because you called Ja Rule a pussy. That was kind of awkward. I never said that. I never said that. He looked at her and he was like, Ja was like, we doing this right?

I know I did. Last one. Loyalty or respect? Loyalty. Want to explain? Yeah, I mean, if you loyal to me people could respect you

but not be loyal to you they could respect you like I respect what you do I respect how you carry yourself but my loyalties lie over here person that where my loyalties lie if a motherfucker

is loyal to you y'all can get into a fucking argument y'all can fight they can want to kill you but if they loyal they ain't never gonna fuck with your opps

when y'all stop speaking they ain't never gonna do you, but if they loyal, they ain't never gonna fuck with your opps when y'all stop speaking. They ain't never gonna do no shit because they loyal to you. I don't fuck with you, yeah, we disrespected each other, it got crazy, whatever the case may be, I don't even like your ass, but I'm loyal to you, so I'ma chill. I respect

shit, niggas don't respect you, you be sitting there sometimes, you be like, this nigga know how to fucking crack his fucking egg, why is he fucking playing with me? Because they just don't respect you all your day. And still, you be sitting there sometimes, you be like, this nigga know how to fucking crack his fucking egg. Why is he fucking playing with me? Because they, they just don't

boil you to you. They respect you, but they're not scared of you. Or they willing to deal with the consequences. So, yeah. I'm going to take

a shot to that. Salud. I only got one left. Oh, hell, you didn't have to, but I'm talking about hey. Let's go.

Let's go. Let's go. I know you all think when we only drink wine, I promise you I'm smacked. I want to tell you something that I know you don't know, and I know I'm probably never going to... You got to take a shot, though.

Because we got to be even here. I'm going to tell you something that I know you don't know. I know no one in the world will know, and I'm probably not going to be popular for this with this person. Me and Foxy's are cool. We cool, right?

You know, we have Bang Bang together. Whenever we have an argument, and this is something I know you don't know, we had Bang Bang together. Whenever we have an argument, she, and this is something I know you don't know, she always brings you up in the most respectful way and goes, that's the one thing I can tell you, is Joe is always by Remy's side. By the way, she's coming at me.

She's bigging y'all up, but she's disrespecting me. If something were to happen, and I won't agree with that, I'd be like, what? Wait with me. No, no, no. And then she'll bring this up to me.

And I'm sure she's never going to talk to me again for bringing this up. But, I mean, I just got to be honest. And I know you don't know that that's something that she or my eyes are about. No, I didn't know.

But I'm going to say something. It's probably because I'm fucking high and I said I wasn't going to get high and drunk. But hey. I'm a fucking drink champ. This is what happens. Hell yeah. So, she dislikes me

I don't know why I really don't know why And I thought Likes you Not dislikes you Likes you She dislikes me Strongly dislikes me

No I think she doesn't I think I swear Should I let you talk first? Yeah Okay Okay Okay

We had like Runners back Before I went away But Stupid shit Stupid Okay. We had like run-ins back before I went away. But stupid shit, stupid rap shit. Me, like, I told you, I come from a battle world,

so I used to be like, yo, any of these bitches, like, what y'all want to do? I thought of it like a sport. It was like fun to me. I didn't realize in the industry, like, that was disrespect.

If somebody said they wanted to battle you, that was a disrespectful thing. You'd think, like, whatever the case may be. So, you know, I was young. I was different. But when we was, we were both disrespectful thing. You'd think whatever the case may be. I was young. I was different.

But we were both locked up. I don't know if people know this. We were both on Rikers Island at the same time. No, I did not realize that. We were both on Rikers Island at the same time. She was in one area. I was in another area. We were actually both in the same areas around the same time. But they had us in protective custody. Against our will. Not because you chose to be. No, no, area. When I came to, we was actually both in the same areas around the same time, but they had us in protective

custody against our will. Not because you chose to be. No, no, you have celebrities. Come on. Judge appointed to, you know, protective custody. Right. And so, like, you know, we were going visits, and, like, you know, we was in the same area for 23 hours, whatever, and then she got moved. But, um,

we had a moment, like, while we was in there, it wasn't directly but it was like um messages that were sent like through like you know they have the reverend in jail that goes everywhere so when you lock and you can't come out they come to your door for ministering or whatever and I thought we were like in a different space and then I came home and it was just like the same type of crazy tension from before I went away and it was just like the same type of crazy tension from before I went away and I was just so confused

like I thought we were somewhere else especially like both of y'all being mothers and coming home from jail she wasn't a mom yet I mean now

I'm saying but yeah it was just weird and then we had very like I know what was going on in there. Like, you can ask anybody about me in jail.

Like, I give it up. You know what Pat Bruce told me? He was out of control. I'm just me. But I'd be sitting there, like, and I never, I've never told any stories of, like, what was really going on on the other side. That people wouldn't be too proud of me. I just used to be like, yo, what's the problem? I just didn't understand.

And then I obviously stopped caring if I ever cared before. But I remember one time, something had happened with us. I guess she might have called you. And you was like, I fuck with her. That's like, and she was mad at you. I remember you ran down and was like, yo, you got Foxy mad at me. What did you fucking do? And I'm like, I don't fucking know.

Like, I'm at a point in my life right now, like, it's certain beats that I had that I don't know if fucking jail gave me PTSD. I know definitely you fuck with my memory. Like, certain shit I just don't remember. But I just don't care about shit no more. Like, so when people be saying little shit about me or throwing shots, it should just be weird to me because I just don't have that energy towards people. When I say some shit,

or if it's rap or whatever, then that's cool. But in real life, in real life, I be telling, I got my son that's grown, I got my little baby, I got my husband at home,

I got all these different businesses that I'm trying to do. And I think a lot of the tension that women, especially women rappers in the industry and women, not even just rappers, females period in the industry, whether they've got all in the talk area, if y'all actresses or y'all video

vixens or whatever the fuck they call it nowadays, there's always a tension, but it's always created outside. It's never really nothing that the person can pinpoint that happened between them. It'd be these narratives where if you're similar or if you're opposites, people always put your names together, and then you end up having real beef with somebody

that was really about nothing, like really no real tangible shit. Like, obviously, after she started transpiring, it was like, all right, she said this, or I said that. But if you try to go down to the initial root of the problem, that should be really starting with the fucking fans.

Your root of the problem with you and Fox? Yeah, not just me and her, just like artists in general. Because at one point, sorry to cut you off, it just felt like females, y'all just wouldn't even

be in the same room. But it wasn't us, though. The fans created that. Not just the fans, but now it's more so the fans. Back then, it was more so like the camps. Like your record label, your A&R. Like Foxy and Kim. The fact that Biggie was beefing with Nas,

and Nas was kind of beefing with Biggie, Kim and Foxy still got along. No, but even still, not even they shouldn't have got along. It would be literally like, no, don't do a song with her. You're going to give her light or you're going to show I know her. It was just like literally the record labels, the execs,

all of that played a part. Now it's more so the fans. The fans, if they have somebody over here that they like and somebody that comes up that tends to be competition, they just create all types of shit to where you start feeling like... And then you click on their page

and you're like you followed them? Hold on why you followed them? But you mean I followed them because they said some other nice shit

about you you didn't know that it was going to go bad but I think I just think now I'm just at a space in my life

where I really don't care like most of the shit that like rap beef is fake to me like I got when I be saying shit I'll say something in a rhyme

or I'll say something in my caption they be like Oh she's talking about So and so Like regular people Be intentional Regular people

Piss me off way more Than celebrities Most of the time If I say something Way much too much They do it No fuck that They always think

You talk about Somebody else's famous They don't bother me It's the fucking Regular people In my fucking life That be fucking Blowing minds

Or even the Illuminati Immediately The Illuminati immediately yeah I seen some shit like when it was saying I was the fake me pap sacrificed me I was like what we sacrifice you to go to jail I'm a clone or type of shopping I You know you don't have to say anything. Nah, you made it. When you get accused, niggas ain't never accused of being a clone. Still, a clone?

That's Gucci, man. That's Michael Jackson shit. That's Michael Jackson. That's Michael Jackson level. Yeah, that's real big. They think I'm a clone. I've been told I'm a clone. I'm going to take a shot

for niggas thinking you're a clone. That ain't going to lie. I never got it. I never knew. Yeah, they don't put me in that kind of thing. I think a lot of times, when we look at the Nas and Jay-Z's Right

Or we look at the Gucci Mane Right And you be like Or Snoop and fucking Snoop taking over Death Row Like you You be like yo Like

Cause I used to be like yo I fucking hate you I hate you for the rest of your life Fuck your dog Fuck your parakeet Fuck everything But now Fuck your parakeet

Yeah Fuck your parakeet I don't even But now... Fuck your parakeet? Yeah, fuck your parakeet. I don't ever fuck about your bird. Fuck your bird. She got real. But when you get... I don't even think

it's a certain age because let me be clear. I started feeling like this. I think when you get to a certain place in your life, you be like, that shit,

I really don't care. I don't even think about it. And some people, unfortunately, I feel sorry for the people that never get there. You got some people that they just suck. Stupid. Like, they just be angry. I promise you. I just put up a post this morning. I wake up every day

and my goal in life is to see how many times I could die laughing. Like, I want to laugh at some shit till my stomach hurts. I got to pee. My cheeks got to cramp. Everything I'm crying. I love this energy. I love this energy. That's what I want to feel like.

That's my goal. Then I go home at the end of the night and talk about the shit we laughed about. I don't want to be angry. I don't want to be mad for no reason. I don't want to be arguing with white people. I don't want to be none of that shit. That shit is fucking, like... So, at the end of the day,

we would like to have you and Foxy at peace. At bare minimum. I've been at peace. That's a fire. I promise you, I've been at peace. Sometimes it may not appear like that. Like I said, a lot of times if you post something or if you like something,

people automatically try to associate it with another famous person. Right. I interact with way more family members and regular people than I do with celebrities. Like, I see them at events and shit like that. But I promise you, I'm really, at that point in my life, I don't care. I don't care. That's why I started my rap league. That's why.

And how did you and Kim kind of like. I love Kim. Yeah, of like. I love Kim. Yeah, how did. I love Kim. Because it seemed like at one point, let me just look at it. I'm outside looking in, right? But I'm still a fan.

It felt like at one point, it was like y'all three was like kind of like, and then it was like, you like befriended Kim or Kim befriended you. I don't know which one. Because all three of y'all did a bit. I was just thinking about it. We was all locked up

like around the same time. Yeah. That's crazy. They just fucking slayed me. Why I can't get to 10 months? Why I can't get way there? Because they both had a year. You had 10.

You did seven. Nah, they rocked my fucking... Jesus. I mean, you know. Good. So, this is my thing. With Kim, I promise you, I cannot...

I try to think of it sometimes sometimes I don't know really what it was that triggered it I have no idea like people somebody asked me recently like but well how did y'all fall out with I have no fucking clue what you and Kim yeah I think it was something that I said in an interview like not even trying to be funny because I always fucked with her I always liked her um but I may have answered the question. You know how they ask stupid questions. You don't really think about

how it's going to sound or how you mean. You don't give no explanation. Trust me, we learned. And yeah, the shit that you're going to put, the shit that you're not even trying to be harmful,

nothing. You're just talking regular and not realizing the impact that shit is going to have. I think I might have did an interview or something like that happen and it just went left.

But when I tell you, when I came home, I came home and we was at a fad party. We was at a fad birthday party. It was just like, we seen each other like, yo, like just natural. We didn't have a talk about it. We didn't discuss, hey, let's just like forget the past. It was just like an instant, like, yo, this shit's stupid. Like we looked at each other, we hugged each other.

We took a picture, exchanged numbers. And ever since, like, ah, fuck. Like I keep saying to my, like, I fuck with him. Like, I keep saying to him, I gotta make my business, I wanna get to the house, I'll have her come over,

like, because we talk a lot, be a text, but we don't get to, like, physically be around each other, but she's so fucking cool. Like,

it be pissing me off sometimes when I be like, damn, if we was like this, like, back then, shit would've been crazy. Like, a lot of times,

you miss out on having a crazy ass fucking moment because of some stupid shit. Like, this shit rap shit. Ain't nobody never fucking hurt my children. Ain't nobody ever, like, really, like, you know what I'm saying? This shit is fucking dumb. At the end of the day, everybody know who nice. Everybody put in work.

And that's just not to take away from them. I put in work. Foxy put in work. Cam, Nicki, Cardi, away from them I put in work Foxy put in work Cam Nikki Cardi Megan We all Everybody put in work Niggas talk about

Oh who got this much money Who so much This records We always broke Right You look at anybody's story We always broke We always poor

We always Everybody got money Right Everybody got money Everybody got cars Everybody got jewelry Niggas got husbands now Kids

I'm not trying to be on Like I know they're like Oh now Ram is high, she's drunk, she's on her cool, I just don't care. Like, nobody's trying to,

nobody, I've been there for a long time. Nobody's trying to go to jail right now because they see somebody and want to ask them, but like,

nobody's doing, nobody wants to be away from their kids, nobody wants to be away from their husband, and this shit is fucking music, and everybody is up. So what I was saying,

like, it got to a point where I had to sit back and I'm like, niggas be talking about oh, she got this or she sold this. We all fucking a million times better than we started. I started every, I don't know

any rappers that was rich before they started rapping. I don't. Everybody's poor. Everybody came from the bottom. So anywhere where you at right now is a fucking plus from where you at. So like like I don't explain that to people or try to explain this to people because the outsides the people with thumbs

and a fucking phone I'm so mad they make phones affordable I'm not even going to front line affordable you think phones should be $5,000 every phone should be $5,000 every phone every fucking phone

your bill is like a band of money I don't want to get out of the phone and to get on social media another 1200 shut your dick ass up another 1200 another 1200

just to get on think about it I was broke before when you broke you'll say anything you don't care life means nothing you just want to

fuck with people all day trust me I'm not speaking because I got money now I'm speaking from the perspective of somebody that has been broke for many times

but here's the crazy shit you don't even understand that the person you're talking about, who has all this money, that comment might fuck with you for that day. Yeah. For that day. You look at that shit and you be like,

yo, this nigga just called me. I'm bird feed. I don't even know if that's a diss. Like, I don't even know. Nigga called me bird feed. Like, I don't... What is that? Like, you know...

You read into it differently. Yeah, you read into it differently. Oh, shit, I'm bird feed. You're fucking bird feed. Like, you know what I mean? I never felt like I was burpees No I'm just saying I'll just give you a example But let me just

So Swiss beats Timberland call you tomorrow They say Ram I want you to do the verses Okay But it's your choice. Okay.

Of who you want to battle in verses. I don't feel like I want to do verses. You don't want to do verses. I don't feel like, I only put out one album. And as long as I've been in the industry, I've only put out one solo album. So you feel it's catalog-based? I feel like, obviously, it's based on your songs

and shit that you do. Now, if you're sitting there saying you want to do a versus and you're going to stand there rhyme for rhyme, nigga, who the fuck you want? That's what Kane wanted to do with KRS. Yeah, you light them all up. Like a real battle. KRS wanted to play yeah, like, you line them all up. Like a real, like, it means like a real battle. KRS wanted to,

KRS said, no, play your records, nigga. No freestyles. Remember, Cain was trying to freestyle. Like, if this is a real battle and we're going pen for pen, oh, fucking who, line them up.

All right. Like, let's go. Like, it is what it is. But song-wise, like, I've only put out one album solo. I put out shit with a Terror Squad album with all of us, and I put out an album

with me and Joe. I've never did any other. You got 20, man. I probably have 20 different features and shit that I'm on. But I just feel like I'm not where a lot of people are in music. I was gone for half of my career.

I was in prison. So, you know, it limits me. Yes, I could have put out an album since I came home, but the music industry has changed since then. It's not like how when you would put out a song.

I don't even think people want albums. People ask, so where's the album? But they don't really want the albums. People want singles. People want moments.

People want fucking a little piece that they really like that they can use on their trailer. Pick up a trailer, piece that they really like that they can use on their, um, trailer. Pick up trailer right there. Yeah, yeah. We outside. You see that, right? You see that.

Um, so I don't really know. And I'm sure Pavel, he's gonna see this and be like, why did you say that? But that's how I feel. But also, I enjoyed, I enjoyed it. It was one of the most funnest performances

I've ever did with Joe. With Joe and John? When he did... That shit was stressful. Why? I've never felt like that in my rap career ever, ever, ever. Why?

This nigga was calling me every day. We had arguments over the fucking list. What songs we was going to do, what songs we wasn't going to do. What part of it we was going to do. The fucking outfits. It was the fucking list. What songs we was going to do, what songs we wasn't going to do, what part of it we was going to do, the fucking outfits. It was a fucking headache.

Like, I wanted to fucking change my number. Then he tells me, like, fucking two days before, you know what? I decided I want to do the whole deep cover. So you want me to remember I rubbed your face with the herb because your family's children like Amity Villain, drill the nerves in the cavity, fill it and sand these bills and the pavilion that must be where I can't be the energy that humanity's drilling? I rub your face with the herb because your family's children like Amity Villain drew the nerves of the cavity filling the sand in his bills

and the pavilion that must have been where the kid would be the energy that he ran in his jailer. Is that exactly? But I can do it now. I was like,

I don't really know. You know you've been singing a song for mad years and you think you know it. Listen to some shit that you thought you knew. You don't really know

that shit. And I'm performing it. I'm thinking of the people that's there. I'm thinking of the fucking people that's watching. And I'm like, I'm'm thinking of the people that's there. I'm thinking of the fucking people that's watching. And I'm like, I've never. I'm not that type of artist.

I swear, people ask me all the time, do you get nervous? Do you worry about it? I never get nervous. You're in the garden, too. Like, listen to me. I never get nervous. I swear.

I've seen people. I did my fucking Queens Get the Money card. I was watching some of these battle rappers. They were so nervous, like crying. Catherine katherine used a bathroom feeling nauseous if i did that every time i had a performance i would i would not be able to be artists no fucking way i would not be able to take that anxiety i've never gotten nervous the three times in my career in my life when i've gotten nervous like really like scared i've I got on stage with Beyonce, Khaled done brought us out, all type of crazy shit. And I was just like, let's go.

Let's go. Like I'm hyped. When I had to do MC Lyte, Paper Thin. What was the tribute for VH1? It was a tribute for MC Lyte and I had to do Paper Thin. I knew the words. I fucking knew the words since I was young. I was so scared. She's sitting right there. I'm fucking nervous as shit.

Second time, another tribute to Missy Elliott. And of course, they give me this song. They give me, I think it might have been, this is the hip hop honor, so they try to get me to do it.

I think it's the song where she's rapping backwards. Is it worth it? Let me work it. So I know that, I'm like, what the fuck Is this saying Yeah

But Yeah No he said nothing He said I'm stupid Like I felt like But she's staring Right there And I'm like

Oh my fucking And then I have A dance routine All the shit That I gotta focus on Super nervous The third time It happened to me

In my life Is when 48 hours Before versus Joe decides He wants to do The whole thing A deep cover 48 hours before verses, Joe decides he wants to do the whole thing a deep cover. 48 hours before? 48 hours, because I know that normally

when we're performing together, I do the It's the fucking second part that he says. And I'm like, oh my God, Joe, why are you doing this to me? I didn't say anything to him because over there they think I'm like Superwoman. They fucking, I go in the studio, they call me, the verse is late. That's how we all feel about you. That's how we all feel about you. That's how we all feel about you. I'm able to, like, I'm one of the few, or some artists, you ask them for a feature, you're waiting four months, like minimum.

But I write really fast, I go in there, so like they think like, I'm stressed the fuck out. I got it on replay, I'm driving around in my car, listening to it, and for whatever reason,

because I know, there's two things, I don't want to let Joe down, I don't want to let the fans down, and I definitely don't want to be fucking caught, fucking up puns, fucking lyrics. Right.

I fucked up on two words words but people don't know it they would have to listen to it it was like very very minimal it was like a set of an I said a the

some super shit whatever I was so stressed out versus a very very stressful situation like I don't know why because I guess when you watch it

that shit kept us through the whole pandemic so we tuned in We know who you're watching We know who's commenting Like I was fucking stressed So just off of that Like I'd rather not

Like I'll watch it I'll be a fan Thank you God I'll root on Whoever wants to do a versus I ain't ready yet Nah nah We want you to do a versus man

Who am I going against? Trina already went Eve already went. I love they versus. It was cool. I wish Eve could have been over here. I thought of that too, going against the dude.

I thought of Papoose at first, but I said, they do that in the kitchen. I know they battle rap, man. I just get over with it. What? The bus have been dying. He's feeding it to smoke somebody. Get out of here with all your fucking... I don't want the smoke. But at one point,

you did come off the job He's like you pussy I did not say that Did you say you pussy I did not say that It was in the rhyme He was just And he put himself

He was like This is my bad job Because I was mad hype It was like It was on deep cover I was like It's one day seven On this cock sucker job

Niggas was like Sorry Sorry I'm just a little hype It's one day seven on this cocksucker job. Niggas are like, whoa! Sorry, sorry, sorry. Sorry, I'm just a little hype. I love you, bro. No, no, that was real. That was real. She could have stayed in the moment

and met the actor, but she looked at Job face, and Job was like, we're not really doing that. He was like, really, man? For real? I was like,

you know what? Got a little? I was like, you know what? Got a little casualty. Sorry. You know. I fucked with him. He's cool. He's another one that when he was really, really big, like when he was Drake. Because at one time, niggas don't want to admit it.

At one time, Ja Rule was Drake. When Ja was Drake. He was Drake and like Al B. Shaw, like mixed together. I love Al B. Shaw. He know it. When he was like that and we was all on tour together. That's the first tour I went on.

He was headlining. And what tour was this? A Ja Rule tour. It's the first tour I ever went on. I went on tour with Ja Rule. And I just remember him just like, he was like big in life, but he was always cool. Like, even to this day, he'll see me.

I don't got to be with Joe or nothing. Man, what up? How's the family? Like, it's very few people that get to that mark in their career. Like, you know, regardless of what people perceive him as now, I'm saying I'm one of those people I don't forget. And he kept it regular A lot of You'd be surprised A lot of

These guys And girls They get to certain And then they be Acting different Like I don't Understand that I don't feel like

I could ever act different I don't know how I try all the time I'm being like I'm like alright I'm not gonna be bad shit I'm not gonna say nothing I've learned to control my mouth

It's the facial expressions That be giving me away Right I'm just saying Yeah Pat be like babe I'm not going to say nothing. I've learned to control my mouth. It's the facial expressions that be giving me away. Right. I've been sitting there like, yeah. Pat be like, babe. I'm like, what? He be like, your face.

I'm like, oh. You can't wear your heart on your shoulders? Yeah, yeah. Like, I'm working on the facial expressions. The mouth, I got under control.

But sometimes, I be so confused. Like, wow, people really like this. But, you know, that's life. So now this part ain't a note. I'm looking at Pap and

Fat Joe's, but this is not a note. Okay. This is me because I remember at one point, you know, I'm very close to Fat Joe. I'm a Terrasquad member that's not TerraSquad

member, right? I got the chain, though. He used his baby mom. I'm outside, though. I'm outside. He's actually bigger than mine, but we'll have a conversation about that later. So, at one point, you and Joe

have this fallout. I don't remember much about this fallout, but the part that I do remember was him not understanding why. Us all being artists, we all have this moment, and I had

it too, where it's like, I did this shit. I don't know what the fuck. Like, yo, you know what I'm saying? I had it with Trash, where I just felt like it was all me. Right. And I wanted to be out the contract, and I cursed him out. And he eventually let me out the contract.

But it's that, so what was the moment you felt like you and Joe went wrong? Well, I don't remember the precise moment. Okay. But once again, looking back, i realized how young i really was you know so how young he was right because we're like we we forget like when you're when you're 19 20 21 22 somebody that's 30 31 32 they like they like ancient to you Like they like ancient Like old ass Like Yeah yeah yeah And then you get older And you be like A nigga that's 30 Is really just as dumb

As a nigga that's 17 Yeah yeah Exactly Like they really I didn't really evolve that much So that's the first thing I realized His age

Because I remember Like I thought about it When I was locked up And I love him And I always loved him Right It wasn't about I thought I did everything by myself and I felt like I was it was never that I felt like in in the craziest shit was it the second

album first album I only had one album okay it was the terror squad album and then my solo album it was certain things that I wanted implemented. And it wasn't until I was older that I realized he couldn't even control it. We were signed to SRC. We were signed to Columbia? Mm-hmm. Or Universal. Universal. And

it was just certain things that when you're young, you think... To me, he was like fucking Superman. Anything I said I wanted, it was done. Anything I said I wanted to happen. So, at the time, we had just came off, like, you know, Lean Back and Take Me Home and all the records for the Terror Squad album. And he was doing his album on Atlantic. And I just felt like I just wanted him there.

I just wanted him there, like, every day. Even though he was doing, like, it never occurred to me, like, every day, even though he was doing, like, it never occurred to me, like, now, it be shit, and I get it, like, nigga, we two separate artists. If I'm booked here,

he's booked somewhere else. Then I cannot fathom it, like, cancel the show, you fucking crazy, this is my first video shoot, or this is, like, whatever. Not really factoring in, like, niggas got families

that they gotta feed, too. Niggas just pay me $70,000 to be here. Now, the smart me and the educated me and the business wise me yeah I know that then I'm just young I'm just like I don't give a fuck what it was you're supposed to be here like and then just even the way shit worked like we know both of us way more about the music business and the industry and just how shit work They didn't really know then And I was mad about that And he's who he is

Like he's very He's a fucking Leo They fucking think They know everything That's October? Nah that's August That's right before me I'm Virgo

Yeah She said yeah Yeah you guys Yeah so Virgo Look at how But these are good people though They're good people At the end of the day

No no My son is a Leo But my DJ Who's fucking Probably the second Person that visited me The most after Pap Literally

That nigga would leave his job And come if I'm on the phone Talk to him and say Hey I want some Reese's Peanut butter cups He's like alright I'm gonna come down On my lunch break

Like for this nigga I have a DJ bedtime But um Yeah I think I don't even really know. Like, which is sad. I can't even pinpoint what was the issue. And that's what I say about growth. Like, when you start thinking back, you be like, what the fuck was the issue? And was it in the penile where you realized?

I was about to come home. Okay. I was probably like two years out, a year and a half. And the first thing was like, this thing is talking at 50 cent?

Nah. I'm calling this thing right now. Oh, because they squashed this when they squashed? Yeah, like, hold on. You called 50, and you didn't find out

I didn't get a letter from you? Okay, okay, okay. All right, let's slow down because the fans are listening. Right? At one point, when Joe and 50 was beefing... That was just as bad as him and Jay-Z.

I was devastated. Right, because you loved 50. Yeah. And was the discrepancy between you and Joe, was you hanging with 50 or you was... Sometimes.

Yeah, coming around. Yeah, but it wasn't to get Joe mad. It wasn't like, oh, yeah, I'm with your enemy, but it was just like niggas fuck with it. And this is why this is why when two people that I know have

a problem, I mind my fucking business. Me too. Because when they start speaking, you look crazy if you pick the side. You look fucking insane. When he come around me and he be talking about camera, I'll be like this. Yeah, because

when y'all get cool again, I'ma look crazy. This is a prom fucking example as to why. That was hard. That was hard, though. I like that. I like that. I had to learn this. why. That was hard. That was hard, though. I like that. I like that. Let's make some noise

for that. You can do that. I had to learn this. Those niggas be getting mad at me when I laugh at a joke, so I'll be like that. Like a nigga

looking like a joke of somebody I'm cool with, I'll be like that. In a stone wall. Nah, you, listen. I don't know how my face look,

by the way. Listen, you'll be surprised. There's certain people that's like, yo, I would never fuck with this person, girl or guy, ever again. And then they'll be sitting here like, I would never fuck with this person,

girl or guy, ever again. And then now I be sitting here like, I really don't care. Like, when literally that comes upon, because I used to look at people weird like that, like, how are these niggas cool? Like, are you kidding me? These niggas is corny.

Like, because my brain at the time couldn't fathom from where it was to like, hi, now you're cool. Like, I was really perplexed like a certain like unions that I've seen people do. Not just famous.

So you called Joe after? I called him. No, I called him while I was there. I forgot who I called. I had to call somebody else because I had to get a number to put on my list.

So I had to call him and he's on the phone and he's like, um, yo. I'm like, yo. I'm like, yo. I'm like,

what up? What up? What's good? What's good? Nigga like, what do you want to say? What do you want to say? Like,

literally you're sitting there like doing like a fucking echo. And he's like, I miss you, I miss you too. I love you, I love you too. Like,

she was just like crazy, like, yo, like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and then she was just like, literally,

it's to the point now that if we disagree about one little thing like now whatever you wanna what do you wanna do no what do you wanna do no what do you wanna

let's do whatever you wanna do because we never ever wanna get to the point where we arguing and we fighting and we just

being all type of bullshit you sure you okay with that I'm okay whatever you say that's what it is like it's just fucking weird

but I remember when I came home and the first time I seen him I went to go see him he's in it is Like it's just fucking weird But I remember When I came home And the first time I seen him I went to go see him He's in Gaucho's gym Hosting a basketball game That's the first time Y'all see each other

That's the first time I seen each other Since I've been home And then And I had Pat with me And they'd zap it up And it should be just crazy And then Pat had

Their little shit While he was away It was because of me Because he really wanted To punch me in the face It was like Your big brother Really mad at you

So he started trying to Fucking start a fight With your boyfriend Or your baby father Like one of those Types of situations Actually all family shit But the crazy shit

This is the crazy shit All the shit that they went through Them niggas is fucking tag team Who you got fucking questions from? Yeah exactly Who you got questions from? Why is your aunt In with fucking Norvian

Telling him what questions To ask me Cause our family too Me and one of them Me and one of them Told me I'm pretty sure They sat there together

Like I'm gonna tell Norby this And I'm gonna tell him this Cause we see you On your press run But it ain't no family Like this right here Nah it's crazy Like when I do something

That Pap did like He can can't get past me. I'm just on my bullshit. He called y'all. I'll get a ring because sis, what's going on? Nah, what's going on? What's up with you?

Nah, I'm chilling. What's up with the family? Nah, not everybody chilling. Sis. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? I don't get what he's talking to.

Like, she's ridiculous that he does the same thing with me. He's like, yo, so you really know that shit that Joe was talking to. Like, she's ridiculous that he does the same thing with me and Pat. He's like, yo, so you really know that shit that Joe was talking about?

Like, this shit is unbelievable. Like, I've never had this happen before. Right. Ever. It's beautiful. Ever.

It's a wonderful thing. It's a beautiful thing. But I don't like that shit. I do not like it. I be like, yo, both of these niggas at the same time,

they're annoying. A Brooklyn nigga and a Bronx nigga and they both lit. What the fuck? I don't know. I don't know what a same time. They're annoying. A Brooklyn nigga and a Bronx nigga and they both lit. What the fuck? I don't know. I don't know what a hit is. Leave me alone.

So, we established the problem with Joe. We spoke about Sheeta a little bit earlier and his correlation. But we never actually spoke about...

Were you and Nikki ever like friends? Did you ever consider her your friend? Did you ever consider her your colleague? I don't, I don't. Like, friends is such a strong word,

but, like, we had conversations, regular conversations. When we brought up Kim, you said, I love Kim. I do. I really do. I don't have that relationship. We never got a chance to get there

because shit was so bad. Because we see this old footage of you and Nikki, right? Back in the days, y'all sitting there. Right. And then, we have no idea. Well, first of all, it's been five years. Like, literally.

Like, two days ago, three days ago. It's been since Sheeta, like, when I came out. It seems like more close than that, but it's been five years. It's just because people keep bringing it up. It seems closer, but it was five years ago. But I never saw that one coming. You and Nikki? I never,

because I felt like we had a conversation about it, because I've been in this predicament before where I was the girl just coming in, even though I had

been out before, when I came home, it was like me coming in. The introduction. And I was just like, We got more wine for you just in case. I was just like,

give me another cup. Yeah, we keep cups. I was like, we got shit else cup. Oh, so long. Yeah, we keep cups. I was like, we got shit else in here. We got cups. Yeah, we got cups.

Wonderful thing. Continue. I just always felt like anything I say, people are going to say I'm talking about her. Anything she say, people are going to say

I'm talking about me. So let's make an agreement that we never talk about each other. Like, this is you telling her that? Yeah, the conversations. It's not even just telling. It's like a conversation and back and forth. Right. And I feel like We never talking about each other Like you This is you telling her that? Yeah The conversations It's not even just telling

It's like a conversation Back and forth Right And I feel like Any woman You're supposed to feel Like you shit You're supposed to get on a song

Like yeah I'm number two Or I'm number three Like no You're supposed to talk Like you that bitch And you the shit Just let's never Let it get there

And it was just Certain shit that That transpired Behind the scenes Messages that I seen That I know wasn't Like you know Fabricated And I was just certain shit that transpired behind the scenes, messages that I seen that I know wasn't fabricated. And I was just like, nah. It can take one moment to change somebody's whole career and shit.

You know what I'm saying? I've seen people where after certain shit happened, they're deemed as a specific type where they was never looked at like that before. And I was like, I'm not, nothing happened to me. Like, it's just not. It's just gonna happen because that, what was the car?

I can't even think of his fucking name. Messed up Biggie's lyrics and niggas act like he was the worst fucking rapper on the fucking planet. Yeah?

No, not Young Tho. Right, right. Like, fire. Like, I was listening, I was somewhere and they was like playing all his songs and I was like, nah, he really was fire. I was listening I was somewhere And they was like Playing all his songs And I was like

Nah he really was fire They was really Trying to cancel him Because he messed up A lyric from a Fucking artist From a whole other Place that he's from

He probably didn't Even know like People crazy People are crazy You gotta be careful You say anything You cancel I don't know why

They ain't cancel me yet Cause I be saying crazy shit I don't even be caring But you and Nicky Where did it go wrong? I don't know You don't know I don't know why they didn't cancel me yet because I be saying crazy shit. I don't even care. But you and Nikki, where did it go wrong? I don't know. You don't know? Well, like I said,

certain shit from behind the scenes, but what caused the shit, I don't know. But y'all good? Y'all in a good space now? Not that I know of. You're not in a bad space. I mean, in my opinion,

not from my standpoint. Like I said, I'm in a different place In my life I'm like Not trying to find nobody I'm not looking for nobody Like I really am Like just

In a different space After a certain time Goes by But if you and Nikki Is in A&S right now And I know that store Doesn't exist no more That's the reason

I'm like What the hell is A&S That was my next question What is A&S? That was like Macy's before Macy's. I don't think either of us

are going to get Macy's A&S book. Go ahead. Okay. All right. Damn, that's right. All right. Birddorf Goodman.

Y'all, Birddorf Goodman or what was it? What's that? What's the other shit? Saks. Oh, Saks. Okay. And you walk in

and it's you and Pat and it's you and Pat. Mm-hmm. And it's Nikki and Zoo. Mm-hmm. It's love, right? I mean, I don't see anybody acting crazy. Y'all all rich. Really, no.

Like, I don't see it, but like... I don't... We pray for peace. In the Middle East. But she's not saying it's war. I'm not trying to be funny. I've never been anywhere, me and Papi,

anybody did anything to us. Not saying we're this big gangsta, but we get a certain amount of respect. We give respect. Yes, of course. And I think that's why it's reciprocated. But I don't see... What would be the reason?

At this point. And like I said, I don't take rap, beef, seriously. Even in life, I don't have beef with anybody right now. I haven't had beef in a long time. I have beef with, like, the fucking garbage man. When he fucking decides he wants to come at 7 one day, 9 the other day, 12 the other. Like, I have beef with like the fucking garbage man When he fucking decides he wants to come at 7 One day, 9 the other day I have beef with him

I really feel a way about that What would a new version of Ladies Night sound like? Megan Thee Stallion Remy Ma Nicki Minaj Doja Cat Cardi B Lotto.

City Girls. Lotto. City Girls. That should be fire. Like, y'all can be the new self-destruction. Let me tell you something. I'm done. And I mean that for niggas that don't know.

That was a record back in the days where everyone was on. Because people were like, why do you want the girls to go self-destruction? No, but you went from ladies night to self-destruction. You know what I mean Like a fucking scenario Yes Right

Like a scenario Yes Cause why we don't get that From the females I think I think it's been Happening more lately Maybe not so much

With artists that are On that mainstream platform But a lot of girls They do work together And I think we've got Over that Right now The younger girls Are working together A lot more Cause I feel like've got over that Right now the younger girls are working together

A lot more Because I feel like they got over Shortay They feel like I really don't have a problem with you What the fuck It's enough money out here It's enough space for everybody

To be who they are But like I said I feel like a lot of times The fans do that A lot of times the fans do that. A lot of times, just the label in itself, the way they were trying to project you as an artist, we don't want to mess you

with this artist just yet, unless we feel like it's beneficial. That's crazy that you even say don't mess you with this artist. Yeah, like, yo, shit is crazy. This shit is stupid. But I literally, I just did a record recently.

I took all the girls that was on my rap league, and I had them all do eight bars and put it together. I'm going to let you hear before I leave. Shit sounds so crazy. It's literally eight girls, all from different places in the country. And then I put mine on there, too, so I guess it makes it nine. And everybody, I gave them the same beat. Jay White produced it.

He produced Boatak. Jay White produced it. He produced Boat Like Yellow, I Like It, Savage, a lot by 21 Savage. He's Grammy nominated, Grammy winning, whatever.

And I just sent them the beat. I was like, if nobody never heard you, never seen any of Battle Raps, don't know where you're from, this is the first time they ever hear eight bars, what would you do?

I said, everybody the same record and gave them the same thing and just put it together. It sounds fucking amazing. It sounds amazing. Let me ask you this. Will female battle rap artists

face the same thing that male battle rap artists face? Which is? And that means a lot of people love Murder Moat Battlin'. Mm-hmm.

They don't necessarily love him on a battling. Mm-hmm. They don't necessarily... Love them on a song. On a song. Almost all the girls that I've run into so far sound amazing on a song. On a song. And I kind of know good songs when I hear them. Right.

I have this... You've been on a lot. You've been on a lot. I've... And most of them I didn't start out on. I heard it was like, Oh, hold on. Come here.

Let me talk to you for a minute. Because I heard you bullied your way on all the way up or lean back? Lean back. Lean back? It wasn't really a bully. It was just more like a take your second person off the road. That's a pat question and that's how he worded it? I'm worded like that.

That's my cousin. You know that, right? I know. That's my fake cousin. Come on. We fake cousins. We pat bullies. But he said you bullied your way on lean.

I did not bully my way on. Come on. that is such Describe what happened And I'm going to tell you It was a bully or not That's such a strong word Alright First of all

What happened was First of all We was recording If you could tell She was recording But the niggas Thought of a first She's like allegedly

No Oh when I thought of a first That means I got a fucking file Beware First of all We were working on The Terror Squad album We was down here in Miami

This particular night I was in the studio And I was trying to hear What Joe had did The night before And I knew Scott Storch Had been in there Whatever

But for whatever reason I hadn't been there Who knows And I missed the session So I'm listening to it This shit comes on Boom Boom Boom Boom I'm listening to it. This shit comes on. Boom, boom, boom, boom.

I'm like, boom. Hold on, what the fuck is happening? I listen to this first verse. This is the second verse. This is in the era where there was three verses on a song. I said to the engineer, take that fucking second verse

out right now, please. It destroyed. To this day, I actually drove recently. I was like, what was your second verse on there? Like, I And destroyed. To this day, I actually drove recently, and I was like, what was your second verse on there? Like, I got that shit

so out of here, nobody even, it never even made it to another song, nothing. That shit was lost in the fucking metaverse.

The nigga puts the mic on, I'm going to move, I put my verse on R to the easy, into them, that's it, block it,

save it, so the next day when Joe comes in, or later that night, whichever one, he's listening to the it, save it. So the next day when Joe comes in or later that night, whichever one, he's listening to the records and he's playing all the records back

and I'm just sitting there like, surprise, surprise, motherfucker. My verse come on, he like, he looks, he goes,

he goes, and it was like, it was lit. Like, you not taking my verse over, that shit was stupid. Do y'all not understand this is identical to how Pun got on Bear from TV?

This is the same exact story. No one said anything. No one... It's the same exact story, Pun. He called me to come hang out. And he just laid a verse. And I'm like, what?

And he said, you going to erase that, mama? Yeah. What you going to do? And I was like, yeah, I'm going to erase that. Look at the engineer. I'm never missing my mother. Yeah, I'm going to erase that. No, I'm not fucking erasing it. Yo, that shit just gave me chills

just now because you have no idea. Yo, that's crazy, yo. That is crazy. So hold on, hold on, hold on. So Joe comes the next day. He doesn't, he's not mad. No, he's not mad. All right, because that was the exact opposite of me.

I was mad. You was mad? You had a freaking converse? All right, but you don't understand what happened. All right. Well, did he delete somebody's verse and put his name? No, no, this is what happened. Okay. The greatest thing. Punish the love with grape papayas. I don't understand what happened. All right. Well, did he delete somebody's verse to put his name? No, no. This is what happened.

The great story. Pun is still alive with Great Papayas. I'm an electric lady. Great Papayas is right there. I don't think he has that. Pun hits me. No, I hit pun on that thing. I said, yo, man,

I'm out of the studio. Like, I'm going to pull up. I'm paying nature back because I'm leaving session on the Firm album was his session. I wasn't supposed to be there. I wasn paying nature back because I'm leaving session on the Firm album was his session. I wasn't supposed to be there. I wasn't supposed to rhyme.

The fact that he let me, I was like, that was player shit. Let me pay him back. So I had a producer at the time who was called D's nephew. Do y'all know who D's nephew is? Mm-hmm.

He didn't have, his name wasn't even Swiss Beats yet. His name was D's nephew is? Mm-hmm. He didn't have... His name wasn't even Swiss Beats yet. His name was D's nephew. That's crazy. Because of Darren. And so we had him there and I wrote a whole song

but nature could not vibe out to this beat. And... Wait, so D's nephew did a band from TV? Yeah, Swiss Beats did a band from TV. Yes, that's right. I was today years old.

No, and then she doesn't need... The beat is a whole different story. Oh yeah, that's a whole different story. He's still mad at me to this day because I never let the beat drop. By the way, one of my most fire freestyles ever was done on that beat. Oh, let's make some noise for that guy.

So anyway, let me tell you the story. So I'm there, pun is, I said, all right, cool. We got an electric lady. And electric lady, for people that never been an electric lady, electric lady had this little white cat, an electric lady. And I kid you not, I'm allergic to cats. It's the only cat that never would make me break out. It was Jimi Hendrix.

Jimi Hendrix owned the studio, and he came back re-incarneated as a white cat. I don't know why Test me if you I could prove it Wait anyway So I go to the cat because this is the time I smoke cigarettes I go downstairs and smoke a cigarette or something because I didn't like I was an idiot I smoke cigarettes didn't like the smell of cigarettes So I go downstairs and when I smoked cigarettes, didn't like the smell of cigarettes. So I go downstairs.

And when I smoked indoors, it just was like, damn, you're my nasty nigga. I just heard that. So I went downstairs. I smoked a cigarette. I come back upstairs. Pun, the whole verse is lit. And at this time, Pun took like, you know, he took some time. Because he would lay his verses on a couch.

So, and I looked and I said, I saw the couch. And you took the stacks from him. Yes, I saw the couch in there and I was like, oh this nigga done laid my shit. Like I looked, I said, wait a minute, I didn't tell you. And then he just looked at me like this. You going to erase this? And I was like, hell yeah, but on a low like,

keep that, keep that. So that is pretty much the same exact. God damn it, make some noise for Remy. So that's Lean Back. You come home. You and Joe squash it. You and Joe say, let's do an album together. Not Fat Joe album featuring Remy

not Remy album featuring Fat Joe y'all together 50 where you at when this proposal is what are you saying to yourself come into the studio I'm still in parole

so I gotta be home at 8 o'clock and he says to me that's still an album so I'm still in parole, so I got to be home at 8 o'clock. And he says to me, that's still an album. So I'm like, a Joe album? A Remy album? I wasn't really sure what he was talking about. He's like, no, an album with both of us.

I'm like, okay. Where are we going with this? He's like, if we do the shit, and the shit is trash, nobody will never know. Trash shit. Nobody ever hears it. It never seems

to light a day. But if we do it and we do it right and the shit go, we're going to do shit different. He said, we're going to buy

a couple of Subways. We're going to buy like, so every time I remember this story, I think about him saying, we buying Subways. In my head, I was like,

why Subways? Are you thinking of the train station or are you thinking of the sandwich? No, the sandwich. He's talking about the sandwich. And I'm saying in my head, like, not McDonald's? That was specifically what he said, Subways? He said we're going to buy a couple of Subways. He kept saying that.

He's like, yo, we went through a lot of money. We was both young. And I think that's when I first realized that we were both young. Even though I was way younger than him, in his own right, he was still young. I was just super young. He's like, we made a lot of money. We both went away. They took everything from us.

If we do the shit right, we're going to do it right this time. That's why every time he buys another, opens up another sneaker store, I'm so fucking proud of him. When I opened my store in North Carolina, he was so happy. Whenever I start a new endeavor, he came, he literally hit me the day after my event, my battle rap event.

He was like, I'm so fucking proud of you. You need some money, you need an investor, you need anything. I got you. Like, I'm here. Like, it was dope.

Like, you said you was going to do it, and you do it. So, I say all that to say we wasn't really sure. You know what I'm saying? We didn't know what was going to happen.

Like, it's Ram. She just came home. Niggas was trying to do the Sean shit. Oh, she waxed. She this. Even though I went on, I got on the fucking,

the day I came home from jail, I went to the studio and got on They Don't Love Me No More remix with fucking Khaled and Mika, whoever else he had on that shit.

Body that shit, by the way. So when niggas was trying to talk about, oh, she this, she that, I was so confused. But anyway, niggas were trying to talk about oh she this she that i was so confused but anyway niggas was trying to talk like my pen wasn't what my pen was and we did the album we did all the way up we did money showers we did cooking we did all these great records and it was like it's a go we had no paperwork we had no paperwork We ain't had no contracts We ain't exchanged no money Changed my life

Make some noise for that There's an incredible sidebar story to that I know where you're going This is why we've been together So this month is six years of Drink Champs And you know the first time we announced That you and Fat Joe was doing an album together? Oh yeah It was the second day we recorded a Drink Champs. And you know the first time we announced that you and Fat Joe was doing an album together? Oh, yeah.

It was the second day we recorded a Drink Champs episode as a demo to CBS Radio with Fat Joe. And we announced you and Fat Joe. And it was the first episode we released. Wow. It was our first kind of viral moment

because that's the first time they even knew y'all was together. Yeah. Because what happened was the day before I went to Fat Joe, I went to see Fat Joe at Kool & Dre's studio and he played me a record.

And you came back excited. And then he played me another record. And I was like, okay, so when is it Remy's record and when is it your record? And then he played me

another one. And I said, oh, this is an album, Nick. And I was so excited. I was like, oh. And I knew I'm about to be media. So I'm like, and I knew I'm about to be media. So I'm like,

you have to come tomorrow. One of the hottest albums to date. Yes, yes, yes. Contrary to popular belief, like, we were the first people to blow all the way up. We warned the whole world about all of it. But mind you,

it was our pilot episode. We didn't know if Dream Champ was going to take off yet. We didn't know. And this is six years, you said, when? This month is six years. Wow. And that was the first episode. This is our first episode.

Because I actually, like, I think I alluded to, like, all the way up. I said something about it, like, when y'all hear this shit. And, um. Because we knew it was going to be out by the time. Yeah. The episode dropped. By the episode dropped. When you're an artist, you know.

Yes, yes, yes. When you're an artist, you know. Oh, this is one of those. Yes. But, I say, I say that to say. I was trying to put my lip on. Sorry. I say that to say that.

When you. When you're just a good person. Like, Joe's a Like what caused Anything I ever said Or whatever Cause Joe asked me to ask you How much you love Joe

And I felt like That was inappropriate I felt like that was Inappropriate Are you crazy You don't know your friend All of a sudden Yeah

I was like This is the thing That tells people To give speeches At his parties Give a speech about me Tell me how much you love me He made me perform every year

I'm so tired of this shit I don't want to perform no more Yo year I'm so tired of this shit Fat Joe I don't want to perform no more Yo listen I'm going to do what Mary did You see what Mary did this year Mary was like Nope

Not this year She had an umbrella over herself Like But he made me perform every year I don't want to perform no more Fat Joe I'm getting a lot of money In a lot of different places

I don't want to He loves you Sivy What what what I'm so sorry You got to do it I have to do it too He makes me do it He makes you do it too. He makes me do it.

He makes me do it. He makes me do it too. I'm usually right after you or right before you. Yeah, he makes me do it too. But it's just dope because he knew me when I was a kid.

He met me. We were trying to introduce him so I was in school. Right. And now he, from everything from having hit records to falling out

to having hit records again right like he's my fucking daughter's godfather like she loves me she's like oh

it's ridiculous like it's crazy like I'm borderline jealous like borderline jealous that's fire

but to have be um to have be able to have this moment with somebody that you consider your friend that you consider

your family is just dope a lot of our big moments in life happen together he says all the time he calls um

people like Fat Joe people like Remy Ma but they love Fat Joe and Remy Ma like he says it like that's his thing so whenever he's trying to gas me and get me to do some shit, he pulls that line off.

That's a good speech. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, right. He can't say no. Yeah, yeah. I'll do it for free. That's the speech I get when like one of his friends, it's not really my friends, but they're his friends. And they call him to do a favor.

Then he calls me to do a favor. And I'm like, where's the bag, my nigga? Where's the bag? He pulls out the they love from me federal speech

and I'm like, fine, and the next thing I know, I'm doing it. But he's a good friend. Like, he's definitely,

I'm glad that we're where we are now. I'm glad that, you know, I made the initiative. When I was away, like,

one of the things that I said to myself, I was like, yo, I don't want to go home mad. Right. Like, because it was people that really tried to volley when I was there. People that would never try to talk to me crazy. People that would never try to come up talking crazy, moving crazy, not really fucking checking on me,

checking on my son, checking on my family. And I was like, yo, when I come home, I'm not fucking with nobody. Anybody say anything to me, like, and then I And I was like, yo, when I come home, I'm not fucking with nobody. Anybody say anything to me. And then I thought about like... Gotta get up that time. I don't want to be like that. So I literally had to

wipe the slate clean and say, I'm not going to be mad at nobody. Whether they came, whether they didn't come, whatever. Anything that may have transpired while I was away,

it was just like, I'm not going to fuck with you. I don't want you to... Being mad is a broke trait. You can't be up and be mad. I'm not gonna fuck with you I don't want you Being mad is a broke trait You can't be up And be mad I can be mad Sometimes

You could be mad At a certain situation But be mad overall That's a broke trait I don't like that I don't like that feeling Like I told y'all I wake up every day

Looking for my next laugh That's my thing So to sum this all up You're on Fadjo Perfect Great relationship You're on your husband for my next life. That's my thing. So to sum this all up, you're on Fat Joe. Perfect. Great relationship. You're on your husband.

We love it. We respect y'all. We idolize y'all. Thank you. We're going to use y'all as an example. Only reason why I did love hip hop is because y'all did it. And I know they mad at me right now because I haven't filmed a scene,

but I'm lit out here, niggas. You're supposed to be filming right now. Yo, listen. Them niggas is heated. I haven't filmed shit. I'm lit out here, niggas. I'm just listen, them niggas, them niggas has hated it. I haven't filmed shit. I'm lit out here, niggas. I'm just chilling here. You know what it was?

That was a misconception. Like, people who was on, it was like, oh, it was the graveyard for artists. Like, when I was on there, like, I was very nominated. I was very nominated.

I was very nominated. Tell them, tell them. I'm lit. Right. Change the whole trajectory of that, but it's an easy bag. Yeah, it's just, tell me. I don't know. Change the whole trajectory of that. But it's an easy bag. Yeah. Thank you.

Please. Okay. You and Nikki, no problems? I don't have to ask her. Yeah. Maybe do that because I feel like a lot of times people ask me about this history, but they never ask the other side. You and Kim, love her. Yes. the other side. You and Kim love her. Yes.

They are great. You and Cardi? No, why is that, though? Like, you feel like people, it's only one side. Do you think it's like a publicist thing? What'd you say?

Say that again? Do you think it's like a publicist thing where people always ask me, like, how do you feel about this one? But they never ask the other side?

No, because I Googled you personally, and that popped up. That's why. Okay. Like, I don't't speak for nobody else. If she's ever actually asked for that. Yeah, I would. It's all your publications.

Like, y'all like asking some of that. You have to ask the other person. We're asking you right now. It's out in the book. Who gets more ratings? Hey, man,

don't let us... It's a different kind of ratings. We're a different kind of ratings, man. We're in a totally different league. We're a television show. Who won? Listen, we're a television show We're a television show

Who's more lit? Mary's podcast or Joe Budden's podcast? Yo, you know what? Joe Budden Me and Oz were up a game Who else? Big Facts Who else? Who else, man?

Rory Amar Shout out to 85 South as well I ain't hating on none of them Nobody said you would say Nikes man. Rory Amar. Shout out to 85 South as well. 85 South. Right. I ain't hating on none of them. Nobody said you would say that.

Who's the most fucking numbers? I'm the littest nigga in the world. I ain't gonna lie. Listen, man. Niggas don't I mean,

when Kanye wanna come outside with the boots on, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? It's only one of y'all. You know, when the water's on the floor, you're gonna realize when you wear the boots on. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? It's only one. Y'all, you know, when the water's on the floor,

you're going to realize when you're in a booth, that means the water is drip. You know, it's wet. It's wet over there. You know what I mean? It's wet. You know, he didn't give

everybody his album early. You know what I'm saying? It's only one nigga he gave his album early. I'm not against nobody I'm for everybody But let's just be clear We are the y'all of y'all

And Remy Ma We love you so much sis I'm going to be honest Your growth is so beautiful I mean I've really seen you You know not from the beginning But from when you and Pun, you know, came around and for who you are now and a mother and a wife and still got bars and still can make a hit record and still can be so you. It's a beautiful process.

It's a beautiful thing. I am so proud of you. We love you over here. I'm going to take a shot to end it out. Let's go. You know what I'm saying? You ain't going to take one, but if you want to take one, you know, we in. I'm going to take a sip.

You know what I'm saying? I'm going to take a sip. I'm going to take a sip. Yeah, but I'm so glad. And I'm so glad. I'm so glad all the females. You know what she said? Like, every female we name

She big them up This is what In the culture of hip-hop That's probably The biggest miscommunication Is that we think that females Can't get along Like, we won't

Sometimes we won't Like, if we invite Remy We're like, damn We can't invite Kim Or we can't invite That's ridiculous I mean, that was the concept back then That's not the If we invite Remy, we're like, damn, we can't invite Kim. Or we can't invite, you know. That's ridiculous. I mean, that was the concept back then.

That's not the, there's some people that I feel like may or may not have, you know, irreconcilable differences. Right. But I ain't never really had no people, no rap chick that was that serious to me. Right. I don't know how they may feel, but it's never been that serious to me. And also, like I said, a lot of us are married. A lot of us have children now. We ain't older.

And everybody got money. I don't be understanding that argument. It's like, yo, because we always broke. Yes. Everybody could shop

in the same stores. We all got designer clothes, bags, cars, houses. Like, it just doesn't make sense to me. Everybody's doing

a million times better than when we started out where we started from. Let's be clear. Everybody don't got finger pop weed bags. That's what they're finger pop weed bags? Everybody don't got pussy charms. Everybody don't got Godmother.

What's it called? Pussy charms. This shit got me high as hell. Pussy charms. Pussy charms. I forgot to say that. Pussy charms. And shout out to Godmother.

I'm taking this. Godmother. Make sure y'all go to pizza pushes dot com. You can get the Godmother's and follow Godmother's, make sure y'all go pizza-pushin.com to get the Godmother's or follow Godmother Charms. Just let us know. We'll have this shit here. We promote it to everybody. This shit, look,

I ain't gonna lie. I gotta sit down when I smoke this. Like, this is not a stick. Yeah, lay down. I was about to say, lay down. You see, I stopped.

Yeah, yeah. I stopped. That's like a whole half ounce. All right, so how much are you selling these for? These are $200. $200? Yeah. It makes sense. It's seven a whole half ounce. All right, so how much are you selling these for? These are $200. $200? Yeah.

It makes sense. It's seven grams. What do you want? $3.5 is like a fucking thing. Is that an ounce in there? Half an ounce? Well, let's think about it. You could buy an ounce for 200 grams, but you ain't getting the backwood to go with it.

It's not just a backwood, though. It's got the filter. It's a Cuban cigar. There's literally a guy who's sitting here. He has gold teeth. He has a stick. Let's see you light it one more time before we get up out of here. My it's got the filter. It's a Cuban cigar this literally a guy who's this he has a gold teeth Can't get one of my mom I'm pussy charm blunts Or you mixed it all up so many pussy man, you just said you had a boy Got the little plastic filter there so that it stays nice and true case. Or you mixed it all up. Smoking the pussy, man.

You just said you hear the both. Both things. Which one? Which one is it? Are they the pussy charms? It's all in there. It's pussy and some more. All right, hold on, hold on, hold on.

All right, we're going to let Remy Ma pick my next blunt. Let's see which one. I feel like you're trying to hand me one in specifically. I'm going to put that one over there. Okay, cool. I'm going to tell you right now. I feel like you're trying to hand me one in specifically. Okay, boom. All right, cool. I'm going to tell you right now. I'm going to taste it.

Oh, yeah. You'll know which one it is when it's that shit that it's supposed to be. Definitely not pussy drops. Let's go. Let's go. I know. No, no. I know. My poor, this is a little crazy. But, no, it sounds a little crazy, right? But listen, very much, no.

I want to start the interview off with saying the queen of, queen, right? You're the queen. I don't want to say the queen of New York because I just don't want any smoke with everybody else. But I want to say a queen of New York. A queen

of hip-hop. A queen of hip-hop. A queen of... Yo, you are such a real one. a real one. Like, I love the fact that even with you and Joe's relationship, when y'all realized that, and then y'all fixed it together as a team, that shit just makes, you know, it's inspirational, it's motivational. It's something that, because a lot of new artists,

and I deal with this all the time, a lot of new artists think they all got it this all the time, a lot of new artists think they all got it figured out and they think they all you know, it's sometimes weird. It takes a team to make one person great. It takes a team to make it. It's never that just one person. Ever. And

Shout out to the cameraman, the sound man. Yes, yes, yes. The whole team. And I would like, you know, like I said, one of my closest friends Yes, yes, yes. We all did. The whole room. And I would like, I would like, you know, in fact, like I said, one of my closest friends,

and I remember the most confused and the most, like, sad he ever was was when y'all wasn't, like, clicking.

That's my boy. That's my, that's my, that's my ying to my ying. And what's real about it is, what's real about it is, there's no footage of you ever

seeing him react to it. Like, he... I'm a girl. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm a girl. I apologize. I'm sorry for any... First of all, let's be clear.

I apologize to him so many times. Like, you... A lot of times people ask me, yo, like, what would you tell your younger self now? Like, I go, I just be like, yo, just chill. I used to be so mad at everything.

I used to be mad for no reason. And when I look back, I had a pretty great life. I was lit. I was always popular. Before I even met Pun, I was always popular. Growing up, we all had a hard time. It's nowhere like now. Fucking kids running around in my marys and shit. Like, the fuck? I don't fucking know. You. Fucking kids running around in Mary's and shit like,

the fuck? You see the kids running around in the Mary's? That's what I'm talking about. Solid. Solid. Solid. Solid. We didn't grow up like that, but... We didn't grow up like that, but we had value in other shit.

You know what I'm saying? One of the things that i don't do and i pride myself in doing i don't fight with my friends i don't um i don't i just don't like if i have if i fall out with somebody i'm like you could pretty much consider our friendship over like it's done but i can't tell you any of my friends that I've had a fight with I had like we talk to each other with respect we have like we have a disagreement that's what it is um but with Joe I was so emotionally involved and it was such a public thing because we had we had bitches talking to me crazy because like like I was I was supposed to sell a bunch of records just based on like how I was moving out here I was outside when I was outside I was supposed to sell a bunch of records just based on how I was moving out here.

I was outside. When I was outside, I was outside. But I was just mad because I felt like he was supposed to make sure that didn't happen. And not even that, he had his whole album on a whole nother label, still dealing with just losing pun because I didn't realize

after that I barely knew pun a year like this is we need the microphone we need the microphone oh sorry sorry it was just like

in my face it's like his Joe Pumice's protege this is the brother for real that he knew for years the U.P.U.N.'s protege right

so yeah but over the years it's turned into like people always feel like I'm Joe's protege but no y'all you I'm Joe's protege, but... No, y'all, you're T.S.'s protege.

I'm T.S.'s protege. I'll go with that. I'm okay with that. I like that. We love you so much. I love you. Good. And yo, by the way, you gave us everything.

You gave us everything. This is real drink champ shit. Thank you, man. I'm definitely going to regret something when a clickbait comes up and people start taking little pieces of it. I'm like, y'all are so bitch. I'm so bitch.

Like, nah. I'm going to take one more shot on that. I'm good. You ain't got to take a shot. No, don't drink my marijuana. No, don't drink my marijuana. I don't even. No, no, don't drink on my water. I don't even like that name. That's a restaurant in the Bronx

that isn't equivalent in the whole town. Listen, drink it in the Dominican Republic. Yo, but the real, this is to you. It's to everybody. You really the queen.

We really love you. Thank you. We respect you. And this is your platform. Anytime you want to promote your fingernail toes, if you want to, your pink fingernail toes It's just a bag Pussy jar Godmother Which I just was listening

To your record Godmother 2 earlier Thank you And um Jeez cause I'm I'ma smoke this in the crib But I'ma film this As I smoke this

Watch Why you smoking it Watch my movie My BET movie My first starring role Movie? Yeah Wait a minute

It's called Big 50, the Del Ronda Hood story. It's based on this woman. She's out of Detroit. Oh, you narrating it? No, no. I played her in the movie. I see you narrating

something on BET. Oh, that's a different bag. That's a true comp story. Oh, my God. She getting some money. So you got a movie where you playing it. You acting.

I'm playing Okay Dharanda Hood From Detroit When is this drop? It came out A couple of months ago You can watch it on BET BET Prime

BET Her Any one of those Watch it on the one Where you can curse Whichever one I'm not really sure Which one it is That sounds like BET Prime

But watch it on the one Where you can have The curse for it But it was my first Starring role I did it right before I did Queens Wow

So yeah That's the show on ABC Yeah With Randy and Turner A lot of checks I'm just happy to be here I'm thankful God damn

Buzz, thank you And Wendy Williams Fat Joe That was dope Remy Moss That was dope We'll be back next week And then coming back next week

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