Drink Champs - Episode 308 w/ Kid Capri

Episode Date: April 1, 2022

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legendary, Kid Capri!Kiiiiiid Capri talks about his legendary career, sharing stories of Prince, being the first DJ to play Wu-Tang Clan on radio and much more!Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise for the one and only Kid Capri!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs:http://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps DJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreaga Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Where every day is New Year's Eve. It's time for Drink Chats. Drink up, motherfucking podcast. Where every day is New Year's Eve. It's time for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfucking. What's up, motherfucking? What it good be? How are these hoodies? This your boy, N-O-R-E. What up, it's D-J-E-F-N.

And it's Drink Champs, motherfucker. Yappy hour. Make some noise! When I tell you this man is a legend, when I tell you we'll talk until I was probably 25, the only tapes I used to fuck to was Kickapree tapes, Slow Jams,

the mixtapes. I'm so sorry. You know, I didn't have time to get individual CD. Kickapree, Slow J know, I didn't have time to get individual CD. I was just getting pretty slow jams. You smash it. That's just how it happens. I used to go uptown and get his tapes from Queens.

I used to get in a national cab. Of course, I didn't have a car. But back then, they used to have OJs and things like that. I used to go from Queens all the way uptown to get this man's tapes. He's a legend amongst legends. He just finished up Versus. We're going to talk about that. He just got an album out.

We're going to talk about that. Wrote and produced everything from him. But when I tell you, can't nobody rock a party like a Kickapoo party? Because a Kickap pre party don't stop I've seen him play for the youngins. I've seen them play for the middle people. I've seen them play for the old heads I've seen them play for the Latinos. I've seen them play for the white people. I've seen them play for the I've seen them play for Martians I've seen this man play for anybody and rock the crowd the same So in case you don't know who the fuck we talking about,

we talking about the one, the only, legendary DJ the fucking Kid! Kid! Good week, good week! What's up, Jake Chants? That's Jake Chants alumni. How happy was you when you seen Trick Daddy admitting that he pulled his legs up? We gon' take the attention off of me.

Thank you, Trick. I thought that you were meeting me. What's funny is when I posted it, I think you tagged me like, see? I kind of put the shock in his head I was like, see? You can sit on the thing. Yo, that was some funny shit. I kind of put the shock in his head when I showed him this film, man. Yes, yes, yes. It was way early.

He was just getting his bones. It's a sucker free shirt for y'all. Okay, hell yeah. Give it to y'all later. So, Gabe, let's move on. Let's get straight into it. The hip-hop community, the first time I actually seen the hip-hop community come together recently, and this was like, there was a whole bunch of secret group chats,

and everybody was like really, really concerned about you, and they were really, really concerned about K-Slay. Because they said at one point, like, you guys had, you had the bad version of COVID, right? So explain to people who haven't had COVID, how does this work? Well, the first time I had it was when it first started. Oh, you had it first?

Yeah, I had it twice. You got the vaccine? No. Okay, cool. But the first time I caught it was March 2020 when it first started. I had to do a show with KRS-One at Sony Hall in New York.

So was it because KRS gave you COVID? No, no. As a matter of fact, it was the last concert that New York had seen when the COVID started. We did Howard Theater the next night in D.C. When I got on the airplane, seeing all these wipes on the plane, it was like, damn, that's peculiar. I started wiping

off my little area when I got home that night. This was when the first started, you said? This was when the very first started. I wiped off my little area when I got home that night. Oh, this is when the first started, you said? This was when the very first started. And I wiped off my little area when I got home that night. Man, I was sick for a week and a half. I couldn't stand up. I couldn't drink. I couldn't eat. It was really bad.

And it was, you know, I understand why people died from it, man. It was horrible. Fred the Godson was sitting in my studio. And a month later, he was dead. You know what I'm saying? It was crazy, man. So, you know, when I caught it this time I had did a show Which I was going to cancel

I had canceled a bunch of shows And I didn't cancel this one Because there was a lot of bread involved So I said let me go get it But it was New Year's Eve I did Houston And I did another show In Houston the next day

And when I got home That following day That's when I got sick And I put the video out And had I thought about The audio attention That it was going to get I would have never put the video out.

Is this the first time you had recorded or is this the second time? This is the second time. This is the recent time. Like I said, when I put the video out, had I thought about all the attention that it would have gotten, I probably would have put it out if I would have thought twice, but I'm glad I did because it woke people up to understand. Don't trust nobody as serious as I am.

But why would you regret that? I don't understand. Because, you know, sometimes when you do things, I'm not a dude. You know, I watch people get caught up in the camera and want to be on the camera just for the sake of them having a camera in their face. And they just want a certain amount of attention. I'm not really into that. When I show things on the net or whatever, it's to inspire you. It's to show you I'm doing good.

It's to make you want to do good and, you know, stuff like that. So, you know, sometimes, you know, you put things up there. It's like, you know, why you had to do that? So, but then again, I thought about it. It was like, it's a good thing I did put it out there. You know what I'm saying? So people will wake up and know that it's serious, man.

It hit me and, you know, it was bad, man. It was bad to the point where I didn't want to do no dates. I canceled all my shows. And, you know, as a matter of fact, when I canceled, when the pandemic happened and everybody started going back to do shows again, they was trying to get me to come back out. I didn't take nothing. I didn't go back out until last year. And I was only taking certain dates, certain shows, certain size buildings and stuff like that.

So, yeah. Because for the most part, it did seem like at one point the DJs were seeming immune. Meaning like there was still DJs going out and partying. They was wearing their mask on, kind of socially distanced. They were still going to the parties. I remember seeing Camilo in a couple of them. I remember seeing Envy in a couple of them. And so I almost felt like the DJs is immune at one point.

And then you and K-Sade get sick around the same time. Have you and K Slade spoke? I spoke to K Slade when it first happened. Because you wasn't hospitalized, was you? No, I wasn't hospitalized. But he was. But he was. And yeah, I spoke to K Slade a few times.

And then I started speaking with his mom. Going back and forth with his mom to make sure he was okay. I haven't heard anything lately. you know what I'm saying? But I'm sure he's getting better, you know? Our hearts was with him. That's my boy. You know, that's all of our dude is K-Slate, you know what I'm saying? So we wanted to be good, you know?

Big up, K-Slate. Yeah. Yeah, we're going to get you right, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. This is drink chance, god damn it. Need that. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? He's drinking. What you drinking? It's the best side, man. He's always drinking this stuff away from y'all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's always got something

different from y'all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all, even your DJs, y'all got to be different. Salute, salute. Salute, salute. Yes, sir.

So, again, you have no idea how you got it, right? Like, when you got it, you have no idea how you got it, right? Like, when you got it, you have no idea how you got it. We know how we got it here. What? Well, I didn't get it. You didn't get it that time?

No, that was all y'all had for the crew. The first time we came back after quarantine, and we taped our first episode, six of us caught it on set. No, but it was all six of us drinking beer. That's true. That's true. We do think that we got it from the local spot.

And it was Presidente beer, by the way. They make your words. No, no, but it wasn't good. It was just the spot. I don't know. Whatever. Yeah, six of us that drank those beers got it. Wow, that's crazy. So now moving on. You ever thought New York City would be legalized marijuana?

I knew at some point. I didn't think, like, initially. But I knew once I seen, when I went to Denver, I seen L.A., I seen certain places that did have it. I knew at some point it was going to come to New York. It was going to come, you know, I thought it was going to come faster. I thought it was going to come before a lot of other places. Right. But, you know But it happened.

And the crazy shit, traveling on the plane with him. I just came back with a half a pound. You're always stitching on yourself. Split it up. Half Sonny bag, half Rasta bag, half my bag. I'm not telling you. Hey, man, but in LAX, it's a rule. They don't even search your bag for that.

Is that right? That's fire, right? That's Norris' rule. I've seen some dude get his bag searched in the airport. They found the weed, looked at it, put it back in the bag. Wow. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about.

What are you going to do? All right. It should have been today. Yeah, yeah's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. What are you going to do? All right. It should have been like that. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Imagine this. Think about this. All the dudes is locked up in jail

for 20-something years and now the shit is legal. It's crazy. And he did all that time. You know what I'm saying? Think about that. I was just on a conference call talking about that just now.

I swear to God. That's crazy. I'm talking about a comedy show about dudes that's in jail That's crazy. I'm talking about a comedy show about dudes that's in jail, that's hating. Man, I don't fuck this shit. Yeah, I'm fucking with you.

They're hating on the dudes. It's a comedy show, so please, in no way, which is a real life thing, it's a serious one. Making it all up, but it's true. Like, how the fuck, all these motherfuckers is locked up. That's something to be mad at. So let me ask you something. You've been on the road with KRS. Mm-hmm.

You've been on the road with... Name some of the rappers you've been on the road with. Well, I've been on the road for myself. Long time. You haven't stopped. 25 tours. You haven't stopped, man. You was clearly the first DJ I ever seen with a tour bus.

Mm-hmm. Is that not the truth? It's first dude in hip-hop. Are we supposed to make some noise for that? Yeah, absolutely. Hell yeah. a tour bus. Mm-hmm. Is that not the truth? It's first dude in hip-hop. The old one. Are we supposed to make some noise for that? Yeah, absolutely. Hell yeah. Make some noise more

because I had two tour buses. I bought my first one, which was a 40-foot. Matter of fact, when I went to go buy my first bus, the dude that was buying the bus from me

laughed at me. He was like, yo, nobody buys buses. They rent the bus. The album comes out, they rent the bus, go on tour for a couple of months, they bring the bus back,

done deal. Nobody buys a bus Right I said man I gave him a whole bag of money here Give him my bus Gave him my bus I came back

And bought a bigger bus Right When I bought that bigger bus He seen how serious I was And plus I gave him Some of his best bus drivers I drove for Lil Wayne Drove for Cash Money

Drove for you know CeeLo CeeLo the bus driver CeeLo's one of my best drivers Rest in peace CeeLo Rest in peace When I came back When I came back To get the second bus He was like money drove for, you know, this one. Cee Lo, the bus driver? Cee Lo's one of my best drivers. Rest in peace, Cee Lo. Rest in peace. When I came back to get the second bus,

he was like, yo, you doing a record company? I was like, yeah, I'm going to give you a million dollars for your record company. I was like, nah, I'm good. Hold it. Keep that. He was going to give me a million dollars for my record company to back my record company. Oh, the guy who owned the tour bus company.

Yeah, that's on... Wow. Wow. That's how much he believed in what you were doing because you were coming in. Is that because he never seen nobody buy a bus from him before? This dude got 350's on... Wow. Wow. That's how much he believed in what you were doing because you were coming in. Is that because he never seen nobody buy a bus from him before? This dude got 350 buses on his lawn.

This dude lives on 2,000 acres of land. Him and his brother, he got an airport in his crib. Let's be clear. You said he never seen nobody or he never seen nobody buy? He never seen nobody buy. Black or hip-hop.

No, no, no. Nobody ever bought a bus. They just rented. How much was this at this time? The buses, he got buses of $2.3 million on his lawn lined up. You know, mine wasn't that much. I think mine was probably $1.3 million, maybe.

No, I'm lying. I'm lying. Mine was about $7.50 at the time. But he had 1.3 Prevosts and 2.3 Prevosts laid out, and he would fix the buses right there in his lawn. Prevosts is the ones with the beds, right? Yes. Okay.

He would have all these different houses that he would build and put people there in his lawn. Prevost is the one with the beds, right? Yes. Okay. And he would have all these different houses that he would build and put people that worked for him in these houses. And mostly everybody that worked for him was black. And how he started it was, he was a, I remember his brother started this band, this group in 1960,

and they made this record, and the record went top 40. But they didn't like the flyers, so what they did was they bought a school bus and they gutted the school bus out They put a couch in there put a tuck chairs in there You know they made it comfortable they went on the road After the record died down they rented the bus out and they seen all this money that they were making from the bus

So they went bought another one then they bought another one next thing You know each brother on 350 buses apiece and these buses 2.3 million dollars. So they invented the tour bus I wouldn't say they invented I wouldn't know that But I know that they didn't like to travel. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? And these guys was in Jersey? No, this is where they have the, one of the ranches is in Leesburg,

Leesburg, Florida. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. That's where all the buses come from, I thought. That's him. Wow. That's the one that owns the bus.

That was a black person? No, he's white. Calhoun. Oh, okay. His last name is Calhoun. But most of the people that work for him is black. I remember one dude that, he said, yo, I'm going to pick up my girl. He said, you want to come with me?

I was like, nah, I'm good. He got in the airplane, left, came back 20 minutes with his girl. It was crazy. Pulled up with the plane. Everybody got a house and got a plane in their garage with either Benz or something crazy in front of the house. They building houses on the ranch. This dude got 30 swamp boats. He lives crazy.

I never seen nobody live like this. His brother has the exact same thing that he has. Right. That's crazy. So when you travel with KRS, did y'all travel on boat? Nah, nah, nah. I didn't really travel with KRS. I just did certain shows with KRS.

You know what I'm saying? We do like spot dates. Like I'll do shows. Matter of fact, I travel more with Rod Kim than I do with KRS. Me and Rod I'm saying? We do like spot dates. Like I'll do shows. Matter of fact, I travel more with Rod Kim than I do with KRS because me and Rod Kim did a whole tour together.

Wow. Yeah, we did a whole tour. But me and KRS, there's so much monumental things. You know what I'm saying? And also KRS was there when my daughter, Vina Love, was born.

He's the godfather of Vina Love. You know what I'm saying? He was there at the hospital. I was down here in Florida doing a show in Tampa when she was born and he was at the hospital. It was crazy, man.

So like I said, I had so much history with so many people, but mostly I've been on the road for myself. And it's a pleasure to know that I can sell out a spot and make a crowd happy and don't have to depend on if I need somebody else there. If somebody else there, it's a plus, but I can do it on my own. It's dope. But after doing Versus yourself and after being on the road with Rakim, who do you think Rakim would best do a versus against?

Me and Swiss sat down many times to talk about different people to match up. I mean, we sat down on the phone one time for three hours trying to get somebody to match up with LL. Couldn't find nobody. But the first time I first started was Swiss had called me and asked me.

Can't be Buster. Well, Buster didn't come in mind. It wasn't Buster that we was thinking of. No, as a matter of fact, I'm lying. Buster did come up. But when I first started, Swiss had reached out to me and asked me if I'd get Rakim with Kane. To me, that seemed like the more. No, I don't know.

That doesn't seem like a good matchup. Yeah? with Kane than when the Rock came in. that seemed like the more, no, I don't know, I don't, that doesn't seem like a good matchup. Yeah? To me, our argument used to be on the block, KRS and Rock Kim.

It was always that. It was never KRS and Kane or Rock Kim and Kane even though Kane was just outrageous to us, but it was, the argument was always

KRS and Rock Kim. Right. But, you know, when I reached out to Ra, I told him, I told him why I thought he should do it, but, you know, Ra moves the way he gonna move, man. He gonna move like, you know what I'm saying? And sometimes

something that's good may not be good for you. You know what I'm saying? Like, I was asked to do versus four times. On your own? No, not on my own. To help other people. And I turned it down because I didn't feel like it was the right thing for me to do at the time. Sometimes people jump on something because the opportunity is there or because it's the hot thing to do.

And it may not be the right thing to do at that time. You know what I'm saying? So when I did it with Karris and Kane, that made sense. Right. You know, and I told them no at first. Right. You know what I'm saying? Who was people did it with KRS and Kane, that made sense. Right. You know, and I told them no at first. Right. You know what I'm saying? Who was people when you told no at first?

Was it somebody else? I think Keith Sweat had reached out and wanted me to do it, which I love Keith Sweat. He's one of the greatest. But I just didn't see sense in me standing behind Keith Sweat while he's crooning what I'm going to do. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean?

That's what I'm saying. Like somebody else might have took that. I'm not knocking that, but it wouldn't have been right for me. You know what I'm going to do. Like, I'm going to stay. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? So that's what I'm saying. Like, somebody else might have took that. I'm not knocking that, but it wouldn't have been right for me. You know what I mean? You wouldn't have been able to be yourself in that situation. Like, I can't be me.

You know what I'm saying? Like, you just don't make sense. It look like I'm just a token dude standing there. Like, you know, that's not what I do. You do play Kickapoo after dark. What is it? What is it? No Panty Sunday.

No Panty Sunday. That was my little... What happened was I started playing on, before this thing with the quarantine happened, I was playing on IG Periscope and Facebook Live from 2015 to 2018. What I would do was I would sit there and play... How it started, I started...

In my crib, I played beats and stuff like that. So one day I was in the crib, I was like, yo, I was bored as hell one day. I just said, you know, cut the camera on. I cut the camera on. And people just liked the beats they were hearing. Right. And I was in the crib, I was like, yo, I was bored as hell one day. I just said, let me cut the camera on. I cut the camera on, and people just liked the beats they were hearing. And I see all these chicks on there. So I did it again. So I created

a show called the Black Party Live Mixtape where I just played craziness. But it's not me DJing, it's just me playing on the computer, just hitting the button. Joints coming all the time. And it worked. Me talking my shit and doing what I do. So I see all these women up there. One day I said, you know, I got to create a show for the time. And it worked, me talking my shit and doing what I do. So I see all these women up there. One day I said,

you know, I got to create a show for the women. I said, what y'all think? And one woman said, we should name it No Pant Sundays.

I said, nah, we're going to call it No Panty Sundays. Bang. That Sunday I did the first show. I had maybe 60,000 women up there looking at this thing.

So every Sunday I would do No Panty Sundays. Every Wednesday I would do Block Partyanties Sundays. Every Wednesday, I would do Black Party Live Mixtape. Never asked for a dollar. Never asked for... This is on live or this is... This is me in my basement

doing it live in front of... You know, and... But it's on IG Live, I'm saying. This is on IG Live. This is on... It started on Periscope first. Then I started going to IG Live and Periscope.

Then I added Facebook Live and I had all three cameras set up. So I'm doing this from 2015 to 2018. When 2018 ran around, serious, seeing what I was doing on there. And, you know, I wouldn't go back to regular radio because I feel like I couldn't be me at regular radio. No knocking it. It's just that for me, I need to just have some kind of thing.

I was on Power on the 5th and 107th. No, no, I've never been on Hot, never been on Power. Hot asked me years ago to be on there. But you filled in a couple of times. I'm on the road. I was trying to be on the road and do my thing. You filled in a couple of times, though. Yeah, I did.

I can continue. I can continue your story, yeah. Yeah, so they came in serious seeing what I was doing. Seeing how hot the shit was. It was like, yo, come serious. Do your thing. Do your block party thing. I had something called the block party.

And I do the first four hours where I play early 90s and 2000s. And the last two hours, I play everything new and old and mix it up. And that's how I sing radio. I sing radio as it shouldn't be a thing where it's the same thing all the time. It should be colors to it. It should be things that you don't expect. So it worked out. I've been doing it for five years.

And it's dope when I can play my own music on my joint and you know there's no limitations i could just do what i feel and um you know so with that that happened the kendrick lamar album came that that year right uh the tupac movie came that year uh a few other things but this all came from me sitting there doing the thing in my basement on the net. So after 2018, I stopped because I wanted to drive everybody to Sirius. Yeah, but it worked out. It was dope. And then the quarantine hit and I came back for a little while. But that was actually an ill thing, too.

Because when I heard the Kendrick Lamar album and got to hear you on it and I was like, damn, like, you know, for him to, a West Coast lyrical guy to bring up an East Coast, you know,

a DJ, you would think that he would shout out like Felly Fell or like, you know what I'm saying? I said that to him. I said to him,

I said, yo, you got Battle Cat out there, you have DJ Kool out there. Why you didn't get them? These dudes are legends. Like, you know, he was like,

no, they're my boys, they're my brothers. They're who they are. But I know what you did for the music business. I know what you did for the DJs. I know what you did, how you changed the game in the music business. This is Kendrick telling you that? This is Kendrick telling me this.

We in the studio. Right, wow. He's saying, you know, if people ain't going to give you the credit that you deserve, this right here will. You know what I'm saying? Let's make some noise for Kid. And although I wish I could have, I'm so happy that, you know, it's the only album in hip hop that made it to get a Pulitzer Award.

So he put me in places that, my voice in places that I've never been to. And I've been a lot of places you know what i'm saying so um just that alone you know he put me in the face of young kids that might not have ever had the kick it pre experience and don't really know what i do he had a chance for them it gave him a chance to go back and see you know why would kick it pre be on kendrick album and they'll go back and check and see you know what i'm saying so i wish we could have did a lot more like concerts and stuff together he didn't need me of course you know but if we would have did it it would have been wish we could have did a lot more like concerts and stuff together. He didn't need me, of course. Right.

But if we would have did it, it would have been tsunami. We would have been crazy. But maybe one day we will. It could still happen. Well, K, we don't know if you know. Our show is about giving people their flowers. I already know, man. We want to give you your flowers.

I'm a big fan. You know what I'm saying? Right now. I'm pointing at everybody. You know what I'm saying? Give your motherfucking flowers, bro. You are one of them. Yeah, we didn't give them to you last time,

but this time they're here for you. Okay, real flowers. Yeah, real flowers. That's not smoking flowers. He's nice. That's dope. Like your career, they're going to laugh. That's my thing.

That's it. That's dope. Thank you. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that.

Make sure we get back to verses. Make sure we get back to verses. Make sure we get back to verses. But, period, I see you in parties, and I see you still switching. I see you still, like, you still enjoy this. Or am I reading this wrong? No, I love it. Okay.

Because I did it when there was no money, when there was no attention, when there was no gas. It was none of that shit. It was like, you know what I'm saying? I did it When there was no When there was no money When there was no attention When there was no Gas It was none of that shit It was like You know what I'm saying We did it just

I used to come out With the equipment In the rain Out in the street Just so people Could see me You know what I'm saying When I got on

I sat on the street corner Of 155th In front of Rucker Or 145th and 8th In front of Willie's That sold mixtapes Not knowing I was gonna get shot robbed or kind of this is in the middle of hollywood It was last year going on chillin's going on

They'll go and when I was in the SNS Club I was with them the most craziest people that you could imagine in New York, you know I'm saying but I didn't do the things that Certain people did so the way I move made them dudes look at me in a certain kind of way and protect us. Me and Starchild. You know what I'm saying? So when I came in that street with the tapes, I was already solidified in Harlem. But I wasn't really nobody. Dudes was coming up like, yo, I'll buy a tape from you for $20.

Man, who are you? Kid Capri. I said, put my tape in your car. Listen to the beginning of the intro. You're going to come back and buy everything I got Kid Capri. I said, put my tape in your car. Listen to the beginning of the intro. You're going to come back and buy everything I got. I guarantee you. He'll put my joint in the car,

come back, buy everything. I used to come out in an hour and sell 2,000 tapes in one hour. For 20 tapes. Sell 100 tapes and make $2,000 in an hour. I was making, they would sell 20 out of facts.

I would sell 20 out of tapes. Yeah, you were competing with crack dealers. I was getting it just a little slower, but I was getting what they were getting out of facts I would sell 20 out of tapes Yeah you were Competing with crack dealers I was getting Just a little slower But I was getting What they were getting You know what I'm saying

That's fire It was crazy Like everyday All day To the point where It got me to My first album deal It got me to

My first television show It got me to My first radio deal First album deal Sony First album deal Was Warner Brothers The Kiki Pre

The tape album Bismarck, rest in peace. He got me that deal. And I didn't even want an album deal to tell you the truth. He got me that deal because I got hot in the street with the mixtapes. He came up on me one day. I did a show somewhere. He came up and pulled up on me in the MPV. Oh, my Bismarck. Yeah. He's like, yo, I'm going to get you an album deal. Shut up, dude. I don't know about that. Next thing you know, I'm at Barry Perdell's office with this big money. That's the account, right?

Yeah, that's the money. I'm like, oh, shit. So we did the album. I'm writing the joints in there. I wasn't no rapper, nothing like that. But I said the rhymes on my mixtapes. And, you know, it caught up in the street. You know, the tapes got real hot.

So I guess anything that was on the tapes was going to catch. Right. So I would say those little rhymes I was saying on there. I would write other stuff. Me and Coovy did the beats. Right. Joint came out. I went on tour with it. It was an experience.

But the DJ thing is what blew up. And that's what made me... That's what people know me as. So when I did Def Comedy Jam, at the time, people didn't really care about DJs. They looked at DJs as You know He just played records You know what I'm saying If you wasn't Jackie Jackson That's the first time

You was on TV That's the first television show Was Def Comedy Jam It wasn't the first television show I was on It was the first television show That was mine That I was a part of

You know what I'm saying But I was always I was doing other stuff MTV Raps and shit like that Yeah stuff like that But the first thing That was mine I was really a part of

What does that mean When you say it's yours What exactly do you mean Some of this Russell Simmons, Martin Lawrence, Kid Capri. That was the principal.

You guys own the show. No, Russell owns the show. Okay. But I was there from beginning to end. It's mine too. You know what I'm saying? When you think of

deaf comedy jam, you think of Russell, Martin, Kid Capri, and the comedians. So, you know, and the, so when that came, that gave me a chance to, you know, even though you see me five seconds, those spurts. That was huge.

It was so huge in your living room. And huge for the DJ, too. So when you, right, you know what I'm saying? It was inspirational to me watching it. Yeah, it just opened doors. It gave people that didn't care about DJs, you know, a chance to see yeah, well, alright, and then when I come to their town to do the actual concert, then they really see

you know, the bulk, they really see it. Like, now, now, now this is the changing of the guard. Now, here's when the DJ is starting to be looked at like an artist now because of what I did with that television show, what I did with those mixtapes and that album.

Exactly, but it didn't even get there yet. But now it's starting to get to the point where now they got to pay attention because I'm a force to be reckoned with on that stage. It doesn't matter what tour it is, who you got, how big his record is. You get Kid Capri on that stage, he's going to be the talk of that show just as well as

that platinum artist. That was the stance I had to take in order for people to take the DJ serious. Before that, we were getting paid $50, $100. If you wasn't behind Jazzy, if you wasn't Jazzy Jeff behind Fresh Prince, or you wasn't Jam Master J behind Run DMC, or you wasn't Red Alert on the radio, which radio stations around the country wasn't playing hip-hop. So if you had that job, you was special. You know what I'm saying? If you wasn't that,

you wasn't looked at as, you know, this great thing. And I'm sitting there like, yo, we are great. This is art. Like, how they going? Like, nah. So I had to take the stance I took. Gotta pay me a certain way. You ain't putting me in no corner on no stage. Center stage, I'm gonna rip the building down.

If I'm packing this building, the same building that you're paying this guy that only got two records, he only come on stage for a half hour to rock out, and I'm there for two hours destroying the spot, then you're going to pay me the same way you're paying him. You're going to treat me the same way you're treating him. And if you're not, give it to somebody else. You'll be back around. Because you have to know your value. You have to take that serious.

And if you don't, nobody else will, and that's what happened to where it changed the garden. Then I made the first album of its kind, the soundtrack to The Streets. You know what I'm saying? Where I had Jay and Nas and this one and that one on the air, I was able to do that. The first to make the Kick It pre-tape album,

a DJ as a rapper. So I did a lot of things, you know, where innovating to help the DJ move forward. But if you go back again, who's inspiring you to do tapes, to DJ? Who's the beginning of all this to you? When I came in, I started DJing with Starchild, right? And in the S&S Club. It didn't mean to happen like that.

The S&S Club was a place that you wasn't just allowed to be in there. You had to be somebody. You had to be this certain kind of person, right? And I'm sitting there the first time I've ever been there. And a drug dealer walked up and said to somebody that drives Touch of Class, yo, I bet $150 that kid will be Starchild walked up to me

I'm like nah man I'm not here for that I'm chilling I'm like nah you haven't met Starchild out of this time I didn't even meet Starchild but you knew of him

I knew of him I'm listening to him playing he's playing right there but I'm sitting there just watching everything that's going on like this is some shit were you spinning

at that point here I was playing music no not at the spot I was sitting there just watching what's going on it's my first time there so I'm watching this I'm just watching what's going on. It's my first time there. So I'm watching this. I'm looking at what's going on.

I'm like, damn, this is what they talking about. Because I always heard about the SMI. You know, this is what they talking about. Seeing all these people and, you know, different street people. Alpo walking and this one walking. I'm looking at him like, damn, shit. The dude comes up and he shouted, you know, 100 feet out. I was like, nah, nah, nah.

You know, we're drug dealers at the time. You know, you can't tell them no. They're going to make you, yes, you to death. Come on, kid. And then Starchild said something slick on the mic. God bless his soul. He said something slick on the mic up there. And I ran up there and did one move, blew the whole club up.

He turned to me. He was like, yo, kid, I'm selling $20 tapes. We should do it together. We split the money, 10 I'm like all right fuck it we end up doing it so we got six tape decks up in there we copying the tapes people buy the tapes right there next to you know the tapes is all over the place so me and star we were so loved in that club you couldn't breathe wrong at us you couldn't look wrong as or anybody that came in there we were so protected by some of the most craziest dudes that we, you know, we wasn't on that.

But they lived a certain way, and they took us very serious. But we went through raids in there. We went through cops coming in, breaking up the toilets. They throwing guns, crack bottles, Coke bottles over the floor. It was crazy, man. We'll leave there, go up the block to the Zodiac, which is another club owned by the same person. Getting there Joint be ram packed

Somebody coming in For all the gambling It was a crazy time But I did that For a year and a half With Star And you know what I'm glad I did it

You know what I'm saying And that's why My first record On my first album Was called The Apollo It's about Saluting Harlem and Uptown and now my record Uptown was the same thing

to go back and salute the people that held me up. I may not agree with what they might have been doing at the time, but I wouldn't talk down on it because those are the ones that was buying the tapes. They're the ones that kept my name out there. Look how

strippers is the A and r's for um like like um strip club music drug dealers was the a and r for um for new york music for the street yeah my music yeah my mixtapes was the soundtrack was a soundtrack to those type of people you know i'm saying when you when they drove down eighth avenue they heard their name screaming out on the tape it meant so much to them you know i'm saying and then they drove down 8th Avenue, they heard their name screaming out on the tape. It meant so much to them. You know what I'm saying? And then the type of music that I was bringing out is the music that people, like, well, it wasn't just me.

It was me, it was Starchild, it was Boosie B. It was, you know, that type of music. I brought a lot to the game. Starchild brought a lot to the game. Boosie brought a lot to the game. But that type of music made the street people feel it. It was just like a feeling they had, that certain kind of music. It was their soundtrack.

It was the soundtrack. That's why I named my album Soundtrack to the Streets, my second album. When I did that, because I gave them the soundtrack for so long with the mixtapes. And when I put this album together, it was like I was kind of almost doing it that way, but in a different way. I wasn't trying to be like a DJ on the album. I was a producer. I was looking more like I was trying to be a Quincy Jones.

And at the time, Quincy Jones had called me to come in to do his album. That's crazy. You just said that like it ain't shit. Right. Quincy Jones just called me. Well, Quincy Jones.. Chrissy Jones just called me. Well, Chrissy Jones. Chrissy Jones ain't never called me.

He did the Q's Jew Joint album. He asked me to come and start the album off with Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles. So I did the first record with Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles and Bono. It's called Let the Good Times Roll. So I'm sitting there in the studio with Chrissy Jones and Rod Templeton. I'm in the middle with Rod Templeton. It's a dude that wrote the Off the Wall album for Michael Jackson. I'm sitting there between them. They got their arms around me. I'm in the middle of it. And Rod Templeton's the dude that wrote the Off the Wall album for Michael Jackson. I'm sitting there between them.

They got their arms around me. I'm looking at them like this. I'm looking at them like this. And he go, kid, this is what I want you to do. And he telling me this stuff. And I'm standing there, I'm saying, yo, look at the money that I'm sitting in between. Just the fact that I'm in between these dudes.

Right. You know, sometimes we get these looks and we get these looks and we get these accolades and we don't really look at how special it is because we always get an accolade so it's like a thing we're used to. But I see and pinpoint each thing for what it is and to sit there

to be called from Quincy Jones first of all. That's not even getting to the studio. Just to be called. To have that in his even getting to the studio. Just to be called, to have that in his mind, that is everything. Then to be sitting there in between them, you know,

and then he asked me to come to his party, his birthday party. Right? I go to his birthday party. Soon as I get to the door, Oprah Winfrey is right there. She goes,

oh, there goes my baby, Kid Capri. My mans, I got two of my dudes with me. My man Dougie, my man RC. They looked at each other like this because they bugger. They from the block. They don't be around this stuff.

So they see Oprah Winfrey saying that I was bugger because I didn't even know she knew me. But she said that. So then me, her, Brandi took a picture, hung out. Quincy took me to his case where he had 55 Grammys in a case. This was in his party. This is 55 Grammys in a case. This was in his party. This is 55 Grammys. He

tried to get one. He got 55 in a case. This was back then. The dude was big, very influential to me, and that's where I wanted to be. So when I did Soundtrack to the Streets, that's how I was thinking of being the Quincy Jones of hip-hop. So at what point you and Starchild stopped making tapes together?

Once I stopped, once I left the anything I ever do, I didn't even want to be stuck. Right? The tapes was a stepping stone for me. When Hot 97 asked me to come and do Hot 97, I told them no, not because they wasn't the number one station. It was because they was the number one station. They didn't need me. You know what I'm saying? They already had what was going on. Plus, I wanted to be in the world. This was before the internet. Keep in mind, this was because they was the number one station. They didn't need me. You know what I'm saying? They already had what was going on.

Plus, I wanted to be in the world. That's before the internet. Keep in mind, that's before the internet. So I'm doing 200 to 250 shows around the country. I wanted to touch Mississippi. I wanted to touch Florida. I wanted to touch California. I wanted to touch these people and let them see what New York was and how we could bring

New York to y'all and make y'all happy and still be able to do what y'all like. In Houston, they got music that they love that nobody ever heard. When you go there and you know that music, you become so much bigger. And that's what happened with me. I would go to St. Louis. I would go to these different places and make sure that the main DJ out there, yo, what's going on out here? What's popping?

Okay? Come to my show. I'm going to make sure we blow you up out there because you are the main dude in the city. So I want to make sure we keep the light on you. You know what I'm saying? Because a lot of dudes at times, the promoters will come and get me to come do their show. And that main DJ in that city will say, yo, I'm the hottest dude out here. Why you got to get Kid Capri? And the promoters say, sit there and watch him. Sit there and watch. And then that DJ will watch and see that first show. And then I come back

and do another show and he see that show and how I ripped the mud hole in this place. And now when I come back, that DJ is doing me at that show. He never talked

in the microphone. He never played records quick or the way I played it. He never played those type of records. But when I come back, that's what he's doing. Now imagine if I'm going

all around the world and everywhere I go, all the DJs is doing that. Before that, they wasn't doing that. You know what I'm saying? So that was my contribution to music, that, you know, to help the DJ move along. You know what I'm saying? And it was always

about looking at the DJ as an artist. It was never about just me. It's never about me. Any show I do, it's never about me. It's always about the crowd. I take myself and look at it as if I'm in the crowd watching myself and what would make me want to come back to see me again.

What would make me feel good watching me again? What would make a promoter want to book me again? You know what I'm saying? And that's what makes me go so hard because it's not about me it's never been about me so the rumor is right I'll say his name I was gonna say his name but um like funk flex used to not let his the DJs that come on before him play certain records, right? And when I found out that that's somewhat of a normal thing,

like if you're the man DJ, you tell these dudes, you know, you can't play this, this, and that. Is that something you've ever done? Mm-hmm. And there's a reason for it. Okay. If you've seen Technician, the DJ that did the joint with the Lox, Technician's been on the road with me for 20-something years. Technician's seen me rip

different places down and do different things to where he became so great because it wasn't just me, it was other DJs he watched but he's seen me on a constant basis do this every show. So when he did what he did with the L locks, I wasn't surprised.

He's supposed to. Right. Right? But the reason why my shows have so much magnitude to it is because I want, like I said, it's not about me. I want people to feel better than they did

before they got there. They can't do that if they hear the same song three, four times a night. You notice how a lot of parties right now, everybody's standing around and everybody's in their phone and all that. That don't happen in my parties. My parties... They're glorified jukeboxes.

Right. Exactly. Because because they, the continuity, it's a continuity that has to keep going. It has to be a beginning, a middle, and an end. You have to build people up. You see what I'm saying? And it's you against a whole room full of people

that you don't even know. It's up to you to satisfy everybody in this room at one time. So how do you do that? You have to be the best you can be. And how do you do that is you have to tell a story.

If you a DJ that comes in at 10.30 at night and nobody drank nothing at 10.30 at night, who wants to hear the hottest record at 10.30 at night? But this DJ is thinking about burning the next dude that comes out.

He's thinking about himself. He's thinking about, let me get as much shine as I can. Don't matter about the event. It don't matter none of that. And that's why I brought a DJ across the country with me everywhere I went. Who will open up. Who will open up. I'm paying this dude.

I'm paying for his hotel. He's seeing, you know, that's bread I can keep in my pocket. But I care about my crowd so much that I'll use that bread to make sure that every show is right. You don't hear the same song in one night because we have so much music to play and the way we play it is going to be so crazy. You ain't going to miss it.

But even if they did play the record before you and you played the same record, it was the way that the showmanship that you had, those DJs didn't have it. Yeah, it really doesn't doesn't matter. But it takes the way I impacted. I'm trying to write. It's an impact that I want to keep. If you heard a song that that you want to hear all night and then I come and play, it ain't going to be the same impact. Now, same thing. Vice versa.

Let's say it's me opening up for you, which is very rare, but let's say that's the case. I'm going to stay. It's about the people. I know that you're the principal. They paying you this certain amount of money to do a certain thing and look a certain way. So you would do that? You would do that for another DJ? Absolutely.

I did it before. I did it many times. You know what I'm saying? And that's what it's about. It's about knowing it's not about you. But who do you open up for? I mean, like I said, it's very rare that I open up for anybody because I'm always headlining. Well, who?

I open up for, as a matter of fact, the last joint I did, the last person I went before was Mr. C. We did a joint in Brooklyn. Okay. Okay. And with Mr. C, We did a joint in Brooklyn. Okay. Okay. And with Mr. C, his name is The Finisher. Right. So... It's in his contract.

It's not in his contract. I don't have to do that. But, you know, it's the respect. Like, go ahead, do your thing. That's what it is. You're The Finisher, finish it. Right. You know what I'm saying?

He's a great DJ on top of that. Right. It ain't like he can't follow me. You know, do your thing. But I'm going to give them hell in that building. There's a lot that is, you know, you got to step it up. How about some DJs that you find out that now is getting a million dollars a show? How do I feel what?

Like, how do you feel about that? Yeah, like, you hear these DJs just now, and they're technically not playing records, some of them. Some of them are playing sounds. Yeah, it's a different genre today. I'm going to say this, man. Like of them are playing sounds. There's a different genre there. I'm going to say this, man. What record is that? If you're talking about EDM, if you're talking about EDM,

EDM is big no matter who plays it. It's the music that makes, it's the music itself. You don't even got the words, kid. It's like that. It could be the drugs themselves. It could be that. It could be,

it could be, it's the music for them. I remember Akon said to me, yo, kid, you can go to Europe and sell out concerts by yourself in the arenas because there's DJs out there

that don't have no name that's doing it with the EDM music. All you got to do is start making EDM music. It's not what I do. I do it. I can make it.

But I will make it for somebody else. You can make a dance. Absolutely. I can make anything. I can make any kind of music. And that's why a producer needs to know

don't get stuck in one box. Be able to make anything. When Madonna asked me to produce her joint, I didn't know how to make it. The way you just throw these out there. I'm sorry.

I'm going to kind of fall for a little bit. Madonna reached out to do something for her MDMA album. I did a record called Madonna's. Yo, Madonna. Nobody better not say nothing bad about Madonna. That's how Madonna bossed me, right? No finger popping going on.

No. No finger popping. But she gave me a big bag for this record that she wanted me to do right called masterpiece i did the record done then she asked me to do she did a record with nikki minaj right that was out and she paid lmfao to do the remix But then she paid me The same amount of money She paid me for the Masterpiece record to see What I was going to do with the Nicki Minaj Just to see what you were going to do

And she never got the record She never heard the record Never received the record Never got the record and she paid me This money The record never came out I played it once or twice Never sent the record. And she paid me this money. The record never came out. I played it once or twice on my radio show. You set the record in.

It's not like you... Never set the record in. What? They never asked for the record. I couldn't even get in touch with them. Oh, shit. They paid you. Two big bags.

They paid you and got away from you as if they owed you money. Madonna is the shit. That's gangster shit. Nobody in the guy never talk bad about Madonna. Let me just tell you. You know how I know when Donna's a gangster? She had the same face on

when she was hanging out with Kanye, AB, and Mayweather as she had on when she hung out with Tupac. It was the same exact face. I said,

she know how to turn her hip-hop face on. She's a legend, y'all. She's hip-hop, man. She's a legend. She's a legend. She's a legend. So, yeah, let's do quick time.

Let's do quick time. All right, so we don't know if we know. You want to explain the rules? Come on, because I always fuck it up. The rules are he's going to give you two names. If you politically correctly answer the question, we're drinking. So that means if you say both or neither,

we're drinking. You're drinking. We're we drinking. So that means if you say both or neither, we drinking. You're drinking, we're all drinking. Okay. But if you say... No, I gave him, that's it. You gave him, that's it. All right, cool. I made it easier.

All right, that's it. You made it easy. So it's one or the other, nobody drinks. If you pick one, you pick both or neither, we all drink. All right. All right. You can pick anything, any alcohol.

Deleon or Ciro. You can pick anything, any alcohol. De Leon or Ciroc. You can pick a De Leon. All right, we ready? Hey, you want to do a shot? You want, what kind of shots you want? I'm going to do my... You pick it, man. I'm not the kind of...

I'm going to do my De Leon on the side, baby. All right, cool. You ready? Just saying. Good. Do you imagine, like, you're going to be in a bar, and you're going to be in a bar, and you're going to be in a bar, and you're going to be in a bar, and you're going to be in a bar, and you're going to be in a bar, and you're going to be in a bar, and you're going to be in a bar,

and you're going to be in a bar, and you're going to be in a bar, and you're going to be in a bar, All right, cool. You ready? Say it. DMX or Tupac? I'm going to say DMX. Can I give a reason? Yes. Yes, you can. I was putting DMX on stage before DMX was DMX. Did you have a dog with him? Huh. Did he have a dog with him? Huh?

Did he have a dog with him? No. Okay. No, DMX was on. I put DMX on stage in the castle in the Bronx when I was playing in the castle. DMX didn't even have the rough voice at the time. He had a different kind of voice. Wow.

And he was going at K-Solo. Spellbound. Wow. Right. They had beef. Yeah, I heard they did did He even said on us He said Until that dude

Came and saw us He go Yeah And it's back Back then So He was always DMX I ain't gonna say before

He was DMX But he was always But he wasn't known To the world yet And he had a record Called Born Loser That was playing on BLS Haven't heard

No other DJ play it I was the only DJ that ever heard play that record. Matter of fact, I haven't really heard anybody play it since then. Right. And after that,

he blew up when he got his deal. So that's why I would say DMX. Okay, no problem. Jada Kiss or Jay-Z? It's okay to take a shot. It's okay to take a shot. You have C-ac Or Deleon When you ask me this

What do you ask Is skills wise It's your criteria Whatever your criteria To answer one way or the other Thanks for the Play by play action Mr. Leland

I'm going to say J because of everything, not just because of the records. When you say J, you mean Jay-Z? Jay-Z, because of the business and everything that's going on and all the opportunities he's creating for everybody. You know, so yeah. Okay. Big L or big pun? Big L.

And we got to talk about big L afterward. I'm going to say big. Take a shot, Kiki Brie. You ain't got to be. I'm going to take a shot. Yeah, you ain't got to be. You want this to rock? Yeah, you take some more.

Give me, give me. You want the Japanese deli? I'll take this. The Japanese deli. Get on back. On the Japanese deli office. I'll take this. The Japanese deli office. Kill that! That was awesome. I can beat that right now, bro. Salud.

Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. You next. You next, E. Or you want, I'll hold it down for you. I'll hold it down for you.

Rakim or KRS? I got to go with KRS. Okay. I think he's going to do that anyway. Queen Latifah or MC Lyte? This is always a hard one for me. Hmm. I love MC Lyte, but I got to go with Queen because of her.

What's her real name? Everybody keeps saying her real name. Dana? Yeah, Dana. You got to go with Dana. Yeah, you got to go with Dana. Because of her. I'm going to call her the Queen for the rest of. Because of her range of everything that she got going on.

I'm sorry, say it again. I got to go with Dana because of her range of everything she has going on. But it's really even almost. Yeah, I see that too. We need both Andrean champs. Mm-hmm. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding. But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one.

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Foxy Brown or Eve? Mmm, I'm gonna drink. Alright, cool. I'll expect that. I'll expect that, yeah. I'm gonna put some ice in my shit too, in my Japanese deli, yo. You don't gotta pour heavy, you can do light shots. Light shots, kid. Light shots, yeah. Yeah, yeah, you can do light shots. You ain't gotta go heavy at all. Alright.

That was dope. Okay. I'm gonna drink. I'm gonna drink. I'm gonna drink. I'm gonna drink. I'm gonna drink. I'm gonna drink.

I'm gonna drink. I'm gonna drink. I'm gonna drink. I'm gonna drink. I'm gonna drink. I'm gonna drink. I'm gonna drink light shots. Light shots. Light shots, kid. Yeah, you can do light shots, you ain't gotta go heavy at all. Alright. That was dope.

Okay. Salud. Want me to get the next one? Mm-hmm. Busta M&M. Let me pour up. Oh yeah, these are meant to you. I told you, light shots.

Yeah, do light shots. Busta M&M. Busta M&M. Busta M&M. Busta M&M. Busta M&M. Busta M&M. Busta M&M. Busta M&M. Let me pour up. Oh, yeah, these are meant to you. I told you, light shots. Yeah, do light shots. Buster M&M.

Hmm. That's a good shot. Might as well just hold the bottle. So light shots, light shots. Light shots, light shots. It's a long game. Yeah, that's good. All right, cool.

All right, let's go. All right. You don't believe us. Ooh, ooh, this is a good game. Yeah, that's good. All right, cool. All right, let's go. All right. They don't believe us. Ooh, ooh, this is a good one. Red Alert or Molly Moll? Woo! That'll be Red Alert. He went with you, you know, by the way.

We had. I know. He went with you, by the way. That'll go with Red Alert. Red Alert is above all to me. Okay. Illmatic or ready to die? This is the weed spot. The legal weed spot texts me every day. I figured like if my friend did this, he'd be in jail right now. The legal

weed spot tells me they deals, you know, the legal weed spot. They text me every day. Hey, I got, I got the new strawberry shit. I'm like, yo, this is ill. Like, yo, in the 90s. That's how you know this shit is legal. In the 90s, like, I would have been erasing these messages. Ill-matic or ready to die? This is a tough one, too. Gotta take a drink on that one. Okay. Damn. I'm mad.

Go light, go light. I'm going very light on this one. Go ahead. You're the next one. Yeah, hold on. Let's drink it up. Let's drink it up. All right, let's go.

Cheers to the light. Cheers. I'm drinking like on this one. Yeah, go ahead. Eat, you're the next one. Yeah, hold on. Let's drink it up. Let's drink it up. Let's go. Cheers to the left. Cheers. Next one is, MPC 3000 or Machine? Machine. Even though the MP, I have all the MPs, and I started off as an MP dude,

but this album I just made, I did with the Machine, the whole album. She's dope. Yeah, man, I love Machine. Yeah. Want me to do it? Yep. Yo MTV Raps or Video Music Box?

Video Music Box. That's kind of like an easy one. Ralph and Jey, we need you up here. Yeah, we do. Okay, this is one you might have to drink. ODB or Biz Markie? Biz Markie, of course. ODB, of course.

That's my dude. But Biz Markie, come on. He's the first in that style. He's the first to do ahead of his time. Plus, he did so much for me. He got me my first album deal. It seems that he's in so many people's stories. Yeah, Biz Markie.

He's crazy. They need to do a movie on Biz. I want to play Biz. I've been saying that for years. They want to play Biz. Yeah, they need to do a movie on business I want I want to play this I've been saying that for years yeah they do a movie on this absolutely absolutely I want to play this made a whole nother life for itself in entertainment with kids with the gilgamesh know about music that's your incredible he was like a superhero yeah okay Yeah, yeah. Okay, Snoop Dogg or the gang? Snoop. DJ Premier or Pete Rock?

Pour up. That's a tough one. That's a tough one. Get me a little Ice cube in there Alright you get the next one E Cheers Cheers Cheers Cheers

The locks Or run DMC Porn up That one for me is easy Huh That one for me is easy It doesn? That one for me is easy. It doesn't seem that easy to be honest with you. Come on, we got to go with Run DMC.

You got to. I think even the Locks would go with Run DMC. They would. I want to ask this one. Go ahead. Funk Flex or DJ Clue? Oops. Oh! Oh! have? Funk Flex or DJ Clue? I thought you was going to say Funk Flex or Kid Capri. No, no, no. I swore you was going to say that. I'm glad you did. Funk Flex or Clue? Both influential. Both legends. We'm going to take a drink. Okay.

All right. All right. I didn't expect that. Yeah, you're taking more drinks than I thought you would have to take. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey. That's respect. You got a lot of friends.

You got a lot of friends. That's respect. A lot of people. Okay. Cheers, cheers. All right, cool. Let's take that first out. You want the next one or I got it?

I got it. Kanye or Pharrell? Pharrell is the shit, but I would have to go with Kanye. Let me think about that. Let me think about that for a second. Look, Capri, it's called quick time. I know, man. Hey, man, hey, man. Some things can't be quick.

Some things can't be quick. Don't rush the legend, man. Some things can't be quick. Don't rush the legend. Let's do it. This has not been quick for a long time. Yeah, yeah. Plus, I got to see these people afterwards.

Somebody going to see you clicking these chicks. I can't wait. I'm going to take a drink. Go shit. I can't wait. I'm going to take a drink. All right. All right. Yo! Japanese Deleon is hitting you.

Salud. Salud. Salud. Oh, yo. I'm going to turn Dominican into a drink. Battlecat or Philly Phelps? Battlecat. Philly Phelps is shit, but Battlecat did so much, man.

Yes, big up Battlecat. Again, and big up Philly Phelps as well. They're both legends. Yeah, both of them. Absolutely, absolutely. But that Dre, you know, the work that he's done with Dre, Battle Cat, it's just so much. It's so much. Wu-Tang Clan or N.W.A.? Wu-Tang Clan.

That's because you're East Coast? That's because I was the first to play Wu-Tang Clan on the radio. Goddamn, let's make some noise for that. You had the rough draft of Protect Your Neck? Protect Your Neck. They came in, I think it was ODB, RZA, and somebody else that came to the station

with the record on an orange label. And I didn't even check to see if it was cursors on it. It wasn't even a white label yet? It was orange? It was an orange label. Jesus. I didn't even check to see if it was... It was a test press?

Yeah, it was like a... No, it was an independent... I guess they wasn't signing it loud yet. So I played it. I didn't even check to see if it was cursors on it. Protect Your Neck played it. It blew up. If you look at was Cursors on it Protecting that Played it It blew up If you look at the movie

If you look at their documentary You see them going crazy When I played the record That's a true story Because it's the first one To play on that radio On the documentary Or on the Hulu

The Hulu joint You see the last joint And is Kickapoo playing it Is that Kickapoo Yeah he got me on the radio I'm talking on the radio He asked me to do it I talked on the radio

And then I played the song And you see them going crazy. Season one? Season one? Season two? The last one, season two. Okay, I got it. It is the first.

Stretch Armstrong and Bobbito played it? They played it on underground radio, but I think they was the first to play it on underground, but I was the first to play it on the mainstream. Okay, okay. That's crazy. He's saying you broke Wu-Tang Clan. It wasn't because of you?

I'm not saying it was because of me. It won'tang Clan. It wasn't cuz of you Yeah It was crazy cuz that was something brand new but I expect him to be blow up like me at 50 me at 50 was Set was all the same label Columbia at the same time. I produced rowdy rowdy for 50 right, right? I did I knew he was dope. I knew he was a crap. I wanted him on my album. As a matter of fact, I don't know what happened. I don't know what track Ransom did.

I don't know what happened. But I wanted him on my album. I was around at that time. It was a freestyle with 50. It's me, you. That was at my session. Yo, that was at my session. He was on my album.

He was on my album with Pun. He did a record called The Block Party. Yeah, yeah. Right. But I wanted 50 on the album. Right. But I don't know what happened. But I ended up doing Rowdy Rowdy for 50.

Right. I had no idea. I knew he was incredible, but I didn't know he was going to this level. You know what I'm saying? Right. I didn't see that. You know what I'm saying? Maybe I should have, but that dude, he really worked.

So you're drawing the same parallels when you heard Woo. You didn't know it was going to go. I didn't know it was going to, like, I know it's a hit, but I don't know... I don't... You can't never predict how big somebody's going to get. Right. You know what I'm saying? But I know when somebody says, yo, kid, is this a hit?

I can predict it. I can say, yeah, that's it. Okay. And I did that for a lot of the... I got so many gold plaques and gold awards and all that kind of... From that. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Okay. Kendrick or J. Cole? I'm going to say Kendrick only because J. Cole never came and got me. Kendrick did. He might come.

He might come. J. Cole. If they ever do that joint album. Podcast or radio? I say podcast But radio makes you a superstar Real talk Radio

When you get your record Played on the radio And the DJs is on it And it's a rotation That makes you a star That makes you a superstar Podcast They always ask me to do podcasts

My radio show on Sirius XM Fly to the Block Party. If you listen to my show, I always keep everything positive. You could have did some shit last night that was negative. Something could have happened. You could have got arrested or whatever. I don't talk about that. I talk about moving forward.

Not knocking anybody that do because we need that. You know what I'm saying? But it's just what I choose to do. So when people used to ask me, okay, why don't you do your own podcast? That always been in my mind. Do I have to talk down on people? No, you ain't got to do that. No, you don't do that.

And then I realized I didn't. So maybe I might, you know, put one together. Okay. Never know. Doggy style or the chronic? Chronic. Because there would be no doggy style probably without the chronic.

I like that. Dr. Dre or Puff Daddy? Take a drink You're on Revolt TV, god damn it I'm drinking this Japanese Deleon, baby And Samurai Samurai And Kenda

And Kenda And Kenda You gotta pronounce it rich Cheers DJ Quick or DJ Mustard? Mustard is the shit. I told Mustard, wait you see him Publishing checks And he had that crazy year Of him playing I said wait till you see him Publishing checks

He's gonna be crazy And now he lives in a crazy house It's a lifetime of But I'm gonna go with Quick Go Quick because he's He's a super Triple OG Yeah

We've been trying to get Quick on here as well Okay If you remember Bernie Mac said Who do you think you are DJ Quick Kick and play Oh that's right That's right well okay remember Bernie Mac said DJ quick DJ excuse me juice or New Jack City New Jack City but aren't you in juice no but juice was in

the club that that club that they did the battle when that was the powerhouse I made that club big down okay that's why they did the movie in the club that I, that club that they did the battle in, that was the powerhouse. I made that club big down town. Okay, that's why. That's why they did the movie in that club. Oh. I loved the movie,

but the other movie was more. Was the DJ booth really there? Yeah. The DJ booth was up on top of the, it was like a rail.

It had a rail. Yeah, that's how it was in the movie. Yeah, it was like a rail and then they put people in front of it. They built something under it to put people in front of it. So built something under it to put people in front of it.

So, yeah, it was dope. But New Jack City, I think, was harder, harder than the street. The juice was incredible, but... Respect or loyalty? Last question. Loyalty.

Because loyalty is going to bring, is automatically respect. If you have loyalty with me, you respect me. Right? Absolutely. We always say that that's the only trick question we got here. Because really, that's the only time you should

be really taking a shot. Loyalty or respect. Because I think they go hand in hand. I mean, everybody has their own perspective. It's everyone's own perspective, though. Well, with my people, people that I've always been around, circled myself around, you know, there's always been a respect thing. There's always been loyalty.

My manager been my manager 27 years, 26 years. My role manager, Jim, he been my role manager for just as long. And Jim is the type of dude, he ain't trying to be in pictures. He don't want you to take pictures of him. He don't care about all the cute shit going on. He don't care you To take pictures of him He don't care about All the cute shit going on He don't care about None of that I went around And gave jobs to

A lot of people Around my old block You know And No shot to them But they It just wasn't for them This is you being loyal

You said This is me being loyal To my people I opened up a hair shop For ten years With Curtis That cuts everybody's hair Curtis Smith

Opened a shop Called Ebenezer In my hood Not Curtis Bro No Curtis a shop called Ebenezer in my hood. Not Curtis' bro. No. Curtis Smith. Shop called Ebenezer in the hood in my block for 10 years. You know, to try to get back to my spot. I always gave back, you know,

try to go back, get people that grew up with me or whatever a job. And it's not, it may not be for them. You know what I'm saying? Everything is not for everybody. Right. I remember one dude said to me, yo, kid, I want to go on your tour bus Y'all look like y'all be Having a bunch of fun man Y'all look like y'all be

Doing your thing I want to go hang out Cool come on Bring him on Two days later Y'all don't know How y'all do this shit man How y'all gonna be

In this bus all the time Because it's not for you You're not built for it You can't take a shit In the tour bus It's rigorous Well I can't I'm gonna tell you what

I was old The person who The shit taking out was nice I just put a bag Inside the toilet bowl I've never heard of this Kid I ain't gotta stop the bus

Alright so what are you doing That means he keeps the pool around Let's say we gotta get somewhere quick Right Yeah you don't wanna stop Don't wanna stop So you get the Pathmark bags

Put a bag Put that shit in the toilet bowl Make sure it fit right You shit your ass in that bag And twist bag. Put that shit in the toilet bowl. Make sure it fit right. You shit your ass in that bag and twist the tie of that bag. You throw the shit out. Throw the bag. Throw it out.

It's like walking a dog. But the problem is, everybody in the bus smells that shit. You're walking yourself. Yo, everybody in the bus smells that shit. So, me knowing that it bothers everybody, it made me want to do it even more. Oh, my God. Let me do this shit for no reason. It dares the fuck anybody. Are you okay?

I went on tour with Pun one time. And Pun was giving everyone welfare cheese. So... On the bus? I'm on my bus. So a bunch of these niggas is coming to me like, Ken, we have with you? And I'm like, what do you mean? Yeah, I'm with Pun.

I can't allow that. And then they're like, Pun is giving... And Pun was literally giving everyone welfare cheese. Because you know what it is. It clogs you up. at you and I'm like, what do you mean? I can't allow that. And then they're like, and Pun was literally giving everyone welfare cheese because you know what it is, it clogs you up. You can't shit. You can't shit for the next 20 hours. And I was like, oh my God. This is torture.

We pulling over, Roy Rogers. Some of y'all don't know where Roy Rogers is, but pull over Roy Rogers. You got Roy Rogers in the South? Yeah, I think so. Somewhere up north. I haven't seen Roy Rogers in years, as a matter of fact. I'm mad. What's cool?

Did I show my age just now? Hey, I'm with you. Yeah, I'm with you. Who I think about Roy Rogers? I see them driving around. Roy Rogers? Yeah, definitely. Fried chicken, fried chicken.

You don't realize Waffle House is just some South shit. Yeah, it is. If your Waffle House was in New York, you know how much money they make? Really? You got Biggie B in New York? If there was a Waffle House, man. I wonder if we could open one up out there. That's like us wanting a White Castle out here.

Yes. Great. A White Castle in, like, Kentucky. They got crystals out here. No, that's not the same. No, it's not the same. You had crystals before? Yeah.

I ain't in there. Mm-mm. It's not the same number of burgers. You don't even go to the bathroom the same. You ain't the same. You don't go to the bathroom

as long. Yeah, you got to regret it. You got to be like, yo, this was not it. Why did we have to leave the club and go here and get murder burgers? By the way, they call them murder burgers. Murder burgers. I talked to Fat Joe the other day.

I was like, yo, you got to ask for murder burgers. Pick up to him for that. Pick up to Fat Joe for having an ass murder burger. A blockster. He's a blockster. He's from the Bronx. You've been picking up Harlem all day that. That's dope. Pick up your fat joke. That's dope. That's dope. A Bronx study. He's a Bronx study. He's from the Bronx. You've been picking up Harlem all day, but you haven't heard anything. Is it hand-in-hand?

Well, like I said. You were born and raised in the Bronx, right? No. I was born in Brooklyn. Oh, wow. I was born in Brooklyn. I come from Williamsburg. I used to live in Williamsburg Projects.

I used to live in Farragut Projects. I used to live in Baffert Avenue. Wow. Then I left Brooklyn, and I moved to Manhattan for three years. Then I left Manhattan, and I moved to live in Farragut Projects. I used to live in Baffert Avenue. Then I left Brooklyn, and I moved to Manhattan for three years. Then I left Manhattan, and I moved to the Bronx. When I moved to the Bronx, that's when I got Kid Capri to name a girl that used to be around us named Olga Carter. She said, Kid Capri signed a good name for a DJ. Because you was drinking Capri Suns?

No, no, no, no, no. I was DJ Dr. Spank at the time. Dr. Spank? It was a terrible goddamn name. Terrible name. My first name was MC Yahoo with the ball to bean. Terrible name. Terrible name.

Yeah, terrible name. You know Pharrell's name? Pharrell had a crazy name, too. It was foul, too. But when she said Kid Capri. She was all girl named? It was a girl named Olga Carter. We were going in class.

I remember her name. We were going in class. Yeah, she was one of the girls I was from right away. But we was in skimmies. We was in a class together. I remember Mr. Grant's class. And we were going in room 6304. That was a classroom.

She said, Kid Capri, sound like a good name for a DJ. So we had this sporting goods store called F&S Sporting Goods. And we used to take sweatshirts and put our name on it. And at the time, we used to iron the creirts And put our name on it And at the time We used to iron The creases So we have Eight creases Across the shirt And our name

Going down the thing So I had kick and pray On my joint And I was out She didn't give you the meaning She just said kick and pray No she just said kick and pray So some months later

She was shot By accident By a straight bullet And died Damn We did not know this story Right And that's what made me

Keep the name And the name what made me keep the name and the name just took me. In honor of her? Right. So that's how I got the name. Bless her. Let's make some noise for her. Shout out to all the

followers. Let's give her a moment of silence. Give her seven seconds of a moment of silence. Bless her. Bless her. Bless her. Wow, I didn't know that story was going to turn like that.

That's how you got Capri. She never said that you drank Capri Suns or none of that? No, Capri Suns wasn't out then. It wasn't out? I think Capri Suns was... No, Capri Suns didn't come out until the 90s. I thought them shits was out forever. Yeah, yeah.

I was a little kid. That shit didn't come out. Was Carhartt out then? Carhartt was out. Carhartt. Carhartt. You know what? Carhartt might have been out, but we wasn't on it yet.

Yeah, because that store you're talking about, I feel like they still sell Carhartt. Carhartt. You know what? Carhartt might have been out, but we wasn't on it yet. Yeah, because that store you're talking about, I feel like they still sell Carhartt right now. Yeah, possibly. Okay. Yep. So, I said his name earlier. We skipped over it. But at one point, it felt like you and Funk Flex. I don't know if it's the wrong shit.

It felt like you guys couldn't get along. Listen, man. Or didn't get along. I love Flex, man. I'm going to take a shot. I'm going to take a shot for this. I'm going to take a shot. You ain't got to take a shot.

I'm taking a shot. I got it right here. I got it right here. All right, cool, cool. So what happened between you and Funk Flex? I love Flex. Let me just say that. All right.

That's what's up. Aw, we like that. We like that. Aw. Aw, we like that. We like that. We like that. So what happened? But, you know... He get a little mad. I'm a gorilla in this shit.

You know what I'm saying? And at the end of the day, you know, I set a mark in this game. Funk Flex, what got me mad with Flex was that I felt like he was taking his power

and mushing it in people's faces. If you're a little kid, right, and you make a record and you put the record out and it's doing good, let's go on that. Don't get on your radio and say, yo, this

is trash over the record. You know what I'm saying? Let's show respect. So that's what my problem was. But when he said I fell off, what happened was we had some words. I offered him. Something happened, and then I got on the net and said, yo, let's battle.

Let's battle for $100,000. Let's battle for the name. You lose. You can't use your name no more. Wait, let's say this again. So you was on, would you say this? So you was on. You did some tagging shit.

You can't use your name no more. Yeah, you can't use your name if you lose. I can't use my name if I lose. Wait, wait, wait. I felt like I skipped over a match here. So wait a minute. Y'all talking and then you said,

let's battle for 100 grand, but how did this... No, what happened was somebody had called me and said, yo, kid, Flex is shitting on you on the net, right? On the radio? No, on the net. Yeah, put a post up on the net, right? I was like, what are you talking about?

So I went to go look at it. I was like, it said, it was a picture of him, Red Alert, and Chuck, shut up. And it said under the caption, people trying to rewrite history, but I was there. I'm like, what does that got to do with me? I know what my history is. He talking about me. So I called this person back. And the person was like, nah, nah.

I was like, nah, he ain't talking about me. He was like, yeah, he is talking about you. So anyway, I called Flex, right? And I said to Flex, Flex, who you talking about? And instead of Flex saying to me, yo, kid, it was you or it was this person or it was anybody else, he got crazy with me on the phone. He said some crazy shit on the phone like, yo, don't, don't, if you don't like the way I do things, don't talk to me, don't be asking me who I did this with and who that. He got crazy with me on the phone.

I was like, oh, yo, Flex, it was me. What are you talking about? I'm thinking he may be in a room with maybe some people in the hot 97 that he's trying to like show them that he can talk to me like that.

Some kind of way, I don't know. But that's what he did. And the next thing you know, he said, he had text, the text messages that we had

talked to each other on the net. Which I was like, come on, you know. But then he said I fell off. So when he said that, it was like, okay, now we got to get, now it's go time. So that's when the problem became, when he said I fell off. Like, I fell off, why?

Because I'm not getting on everybody's nerves on the radio station every day in New York. I'm all over the country shaking shit up. Like, you don't see me every day in New York. I fell all over the country shaking shit up. Like, you don't see me every day in New York. I fell off. What are you talking about? And I kept a DJ

when I put my message out. Let's keep it on some DJ shit. He got personal. So when he did that, that's when it got crazy. What do you mean when you say he got personal?

Because he said I fell off. Oh, okay, okay. Like, why would you say that? That's not the truth. Like, why would you even put that out there? But why would you think that was personal?

Why you ain't think that he was saying that to antagonize you? Because if you say that... Because everyone know you ain't for... Yeah, I know that. But still, if you say that to people that don't know about Kid Capri, they'll look at it in a negative way. Right, right, right. I didn't say anything negative.

I didn't say nothing about your girl, your job. I didn't say nothing about your friends. I said something to you. Let's battle in front of Summer Jam. Let's go battle for the day, battle for 100,000. So essentially, y'all would have been the first versus. That would have been it. Right.

And I left it there. But he went somewhere else with it. Right. So with that being said, it went where it went. But at the end of the day, the whole time, if he would have called me and said, yo, kid, I need you in the middle of everything we were going through. If he would have called me and said, yo, kid, I need you for anything, I would have been right there.

No matter what. It wasn't nothing personal. It was some DJ shit. And it was good for hip-hop. It was good for hip-hop. It was dope. It lit up shit. He caught a lot of pressure because I'm not somebody that you do suck a shit to. I'm not

somebody that you shit on. I'm the one that opened the door for DJs to do what they shit on. I'm the one that opened the door for DJs to do what they doing now. I'm the one that brought the money and the fly shit to the DJ business.

I'm the one that showed you how to have style and know your worth. You know what I'm saying? So I'm not the one you do that with. Promoters hide me all over the country.

Fans come see me and sell out everywhere I go. There's a reason for that because it's not just the talent. I know how to treat people. I don't shit on people. There's nothing out there

that says, kid appreciated on people, did bad business. But what made you say you wanted to battle for 100 grand because he said something first? Because he went on

and said I fell off. So when he said, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry. What made me say that was because he got smart with me on the phone. Okay. Instead of him saying, yo, no, I'm sorry. What made me say that was because he got smart with me on the phone. Instead of him saying, yo, kid, I wasn't talking about you. Oh, yeah, I was talking about you.

But he said, yo, don't be asking what's going on on my phone, on my timeline. And if I had a certain way to go, don't call my phone no more. He talking to me like he's sending me. Like, I ain't the one you talk to like that. So when he said that, that's when I put up with the post. Dog, we cool, but yo, let's do it for $100,000. Let's do it for the name. As a matter of fact, let's do it for the culture.

We should have did it at Subba Jam. And that was that. He went and got disrespectful and said some other things and then it went further. So that's how that went. But I'm going to say this. Funkmaster Flex is a legend. You can't deny what he did with Hot 97. He made So that's how that went. But I'm going to say this. Funk Master Flex is a legend. Right.

You can't deny what he did with Hot 97. He made that station be the number one hip-hop station in the world. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? So you can't take that from him. Let's make sure we don't forget that. You know what I'm saying? Let's not get caught up in all the other malarkey and forget that.

He did do that. You know what I'm saying? So shout out to Funk Flex. Got love for him. That right there was some hip-hop shit. It's nothing personal. caught up in all the other malaki and forget that he did do that you know i'm saying so shout the funk flex got love for him that right there was some hip-hop shit it's nothing personal he's one of the greatest ever did it okay bet that's what's up bigger funk flex that's now something i was a little thrown off from uh watching the verses, was you and Scratch back and forth. I get that Chris, I'm not calling him Chris, KRS-One, and Kane was going to talk their shit.

We knew that part, right? We knew that these are the two biggest hip-hop guys battling each other head-to-head. They're icons, both icons. But then you and Scratch are also icons. And at one point, like, he has this routine where he's like,

he's, you know... He as in Scratch. Scratch, yes. I'm sorry. I apologize if I didn't make that clear. He's turning it back. Then he goes, you back And he goes you know DJ kick a pre

And I get it You want to respond already Let's start here Kane called me And asked me to do verses I told Kane no Because I didn't want to be In a battle situation

I told Kane I said I would do it for both of you You and Chris together It never been done On Versus before So I'll do it for both of y'all Like DJ for both of them For both of them

But when he called you He's asking you to DJ for him For him Okay Right Kane I didn't want to be In a battle situation

Plus me and KRS As much as Kane do We have a big history With each other But I still didn't want to be in a battle situation. Plus, me and KRS, as much as Kane do, we have a big history with each other. But I still didn't want to be in a battle situation. Like I told you earlier,

I've been asked four times to be on Versus, turned it down. So I didn't want to be in that type of situation. So when Kane asked me, I told him no. Then Chris called me

maybe like an hour later and said, yo, what you do versus me? I told him no. And I told him the reason why I told him no. Then Chris called me maybe like an hour later and said, yo, what you do versus me? I told him no. And I told him the reason why I told him no. Then he called me back an hour later and he said, yo, Kane has scratch. He was like, yo, we should do it. It's monumental.

You know what I'm saying? I was like, you know what? It's you and Kane. Cool. Get your cup. Let's do it. Right? It's bigger than me. It ain't got nothing to do with me. It's about y'all. I want to see y'? It's you and Kane. Cool. Let's do it. It's bigger than me. It ain't got nothing to do with me. It's about y'all. I want to see y'all get your flowers

and everything like that. So I left it like that and I said, okay, but I got to call Kane back to let him know because I told him no. And I don't want him to feel no kind of way. So I called Kane back. Told him I'm going to do it like Chris wanted me to do it when he was like, yo, please go do it with Chris. I want it to be monumental.

Went to that. I was like, you sure? He said, yep, cool like yep cool then he called me back he said what's going on with you with scratch now being scratched being cool wait kane's calling you back after you tell him no i mean that you're doing it with cares one and he's asking what's wrong with y'all like he knew something was right because hold on hold on hold on hold on this is already bubbling let me go in let me go in alright cool me and Scratch been cool

for a long time we call each other all the time and all that like if any show I do I put him on stage with me

when other dudes are scared to put him on stage I put him on stage with me do a little routine DJ together all that

he started Scratch Vision I would come to Scratch Vision help him with Scratch Vision did like four shows when we came to Brooklyn rocked it out he asked me to do 52 beats I did 263 beats for him all that right Scratch Vision, I would come to Scratch Vision, help him with Scratch Vision. Did like four shows when we came to Brooklyn. Rocked it out. He asked me to do 52 beats.

I did 263 beats for him. All that, right? And soon as I started playing music on the net, I seen a change. One day he called me and was like, yo, you playing music on the net? On that shit that cut off every hour. I'm like, Ed? Then he called me another time and he said something else that was like so i let it fly but then when it got crazy it was when he started putting stuff on the net he started putting stuff up there i remember one time i had said um

i had uh put all the foreign needles out first on the on the red on the television he put up and then you was not the first to do all the foreign news. I'm like, yeah, you could have called me and said that. If I didn't know that I wasn't the first, I didn't know. I didn't know. I never seen nobody put him up before me, but if I wasn't, you could have called my phone.

We just got off the phone with each other. You could have called me and told me that. But he didn't do that. He did that. Then the second day was the cash app thing that happened in the quarantine he went and commented on that then it was something else and it was you know it was something so we so we're me and him we just didn't see eye to eye and i just wasn't fucking with scratch for whatever and then we came to the battle to the uh versus thing and when the versus

thing came up he took it upon himself to try to take the shot off of me to put on him which that wasn't a good idea because first of all i came there with good intent you know i'm saying like it's not about me it's about kane and chris wasn't about me so when he did what he did he made it about him i got clothing lines, right? I came up there with a Gucci shirt. It was so much not about me that I wore a Gucci shirt. I didn't wear something I could have wore to the world for everybody to see. Right, right, right. You see what I'm saying?

So I don't really like talking about this because I don't like blowing nobody up, but he did. He put it out there first. He did it first. So for him to do that, it was like, I'm not somebody you do that for. Watch this. You can take my career and take my talent and take all my abilities, put it to the left. There's nothing out there that says Kiki Pre shitted on people.

There's nothing out there that says Kiki Pre did bad business with people. There's nothing out there that says Kiki Pre wronged people. So right there, you lose. I'm not the person you do that to. Whatever your intentions were, whatever you feel like you needed to do, I'm not the one you do that to. Whatever your thoughts were, they calling me world's greatest DJ. They give me the attention I get. I do as many shows as I do.

Whatever that is, that's something that God has placed in my life. That's not nothing that somebody else can take away or beat because you get in front of a camera and feel like you're going to shit on me and this is your opportunity. So right there you lose because of those facts. Because I have no

smut on my name, you can't win. And then I'm the shit on top of that. You know when I get on that stage, my pressure's gonna be different. I don't give a fuck if you got sparks flying off your turntables. I don't give a fuck what you do on stage. Kid Capri hits that stage, it's gonna

be an event. And that's worldwide. That's wherever I'm going. That's the truth. And that's God-given. That's not me bragging. That's what it's been for years. There's no downtime. So I didn't understand why he took that opportunity to do that on that platform because it didn't work. And did Jeff speak afterwards? No.

There's nothing to really talk about. Instead of him saying to me, yo, kid, I apologize for what I did. That was wrong. I should have did that. He go on the net and he puts a video out saying that the rhyme that I said was for Kane, which it wasn't. It was for you. What are you talking about? You got your time lines mixed up? It was for you.

Wait, you said a rhyme? I said a rhyme. I stopped the rhyme because it wasn't about me. I didn't mess up. I didn't stutter. I stopped the rhyme because it wasn't about me. And I said, you know what? And to myself, while I'm saying it, it's not about you, kid. Just stop it.

Stop it. He said that it was about Kane, which it wasn't. Then he said, Kid Capri doesn't want DJs to shine. That's why he takes DJs on the road with him. Well, isn't that making DJs shine? Like technician and kid knew it. If I'm taking them on the road and paying them all this money and they're going to see the country and they're getting in front of these crowds. Isn't that making them shy?

It's because I didn't take you on the road with me. You don't need to go on the road with me. You scratch. But why would you say that? You try to put the narrative out there like I should. Look, you can never, ever question what I've done for the DJ business. Ever. Nobody can. As far as, you know what? You can never question what I've done for the DJ business. Ever. Nobody can.

As far as, you know what? You can never question what I did for music, period. When I did something for the way you make me feel mix with the Impeach the President, that changed the R&B game. That changed the R&B. You now had to make R&B artists have to make records over R&B, over breakbeat records like Mary. Yeah, that was crazy. It changed the whole game.

So you cannot front on what I did for the game. And on top of that, I stayed with my ear to the street. I stayed with my ear to everything that's going on. That's why my album that's out right now sounds the way it does. Because I refuse to be does because I refuse to be last

I refuse to let somebody tell me I'm less dead I refuse but let me let me stop you for one second what made you not want to react back like when he

cause I believe cause what he was trying to do in my opinion and I'm an outsider looking in obviously he was like you know suck a DJ

that was like what we used to say back in the days. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, just battle. But I know, like, anybody who was new probably couldn't comprehend that.

What made you want to keep your cool and not say, you know, something bad? Because I did, if you see my show at the beginning of the verses, you see I tore the barclays

to shreds. You see that. Right. There's nothing to talk about after that. I came to do an assignment.. I came to do an assignment. They asked me to do an assignment. And that's what I'm going to do. It's not about me.

It's about KRS and Chris. It's not about me. This is not the chance for me to put the shine on me. This is about me trying to help my dudes get what they deserve. That's what my intentions were when I came. I could have came there with something set up to go against Scratch.

It wasn't about that. But you knew at one point that he was going to do that. No. No, I had no idea. Because before the show started, I came up to the stage and said, yo, Scratch, I love you. We don't see eye to eye right now, but we got to get back to it. And I walked away from it.

No balance in my heart, nothing wrong. So when I went to my dressing room, somebody comes in my dressing room and we say, yo, Scratch is garbage up there. I'm like, what are you talking about? So I go to look at Scratch, and Scratch is playing all the records that he don't play that I play. He must have looked at one of my shows or something,

and he's playing all the records that I play in a row. Then he played my Ben and Stretch record. Why would you do that? Why would you do that? Why would you do that? You get one of your old versions of that. Right. Why would you do that? So right there, I knew some sucker shit was going on.

So I'm looking at him. I'm like, damn, that's how you do it? And the crowd is at a standstill. I said, OK. So I go on stage, and now I ignite this place. And now he had to stand there and watch me just you play the same records No, no, no, it was better that shit was about listen what? That's why I was bugged out to me like why would he do it was gonna block me inside

You understand what he was doing, right? So they were not going on stage and I like this shit and both of y'all warming up for this is he's all before me And I said, let me go on versus first Let me get everything crazy. He could come in after, do his trick shit, do all his shit, make it about the show. He didn't want to do that. He wanted to go first. Because he thought I was playing these records, so he thought he was going to throw me off.

Not one of those records was on the list of what I was playing. But I seen the suck of shit. So now he did that. The crowd staring around looking at him like, yo, what he doing? And then I come up and ignite it. And then he had to stand there and watch that. Then he had to stand there and watch how I was playing

the music for KRS amongst how he was playing the music for K. Then KRS kills him. Stay in your place. Another man tells me to stay in my place, we're going to fight.

On stage. Right? Right? Then the man that you backing up tells you, nah, we ain't doing that. He shits on you. Yeah, that was crazy.

Say it again, say it again, say it again, I'm sorry. Kane was like, nah, nah, he shits on Scratch like, yo, nah, we ain't doing that. He stopped him from doing it. Right. What happened?

Let's be particular because everyone's watching this, watch the verses. So let's say what happened. I forgot. Scratch was going to go in and do like a whole thing that I'm assuming was going at. Right. But Kane was like, nah, nah, nah.

Because, you know, nah. And this is the dude that you're backing up. Then they added himself to injury. You disrespect the dude that you backing up. Then they had to insult the injury. You disrespect the dude that's down with you at camp and tell the dude, Drez, that's from Dallas FX, yo, I know you ain't been on the stage in a long time, but get off the stage. Who are you to tell that man that?

That's KRS and Chris of Guess. Wait, who said that? Scratch said that to Drez. Oh, yeah? He said that to Drez. Look at the show. Look at it. I know you ain't been on the stage said that to Drez. Look at the show. Look at it. I know you ain't been on the stage

in a long time, but get off the stage. I know you ain't been on the microphone in a long time, but get off the stage. Who are you to tell that man that? This is a man that was down with your cap.

Right. That's a fact. Red man. How do you tell that man that? He made it so much about him that this is what he said to that man. In front of the world. I don't even like talking about this.

I don't even like when people ask me about it because it's not something that I want to get off. But y'all ask it, and this is what it was. This is what it is. We're going to put the Navative out the way it is and control your own Navative. I'm going to let y'all know that now. Like Game said the other day, control your own Navative. He learned it from Kanye. There it is. Don't let nobody think

no kind of way about you because somebody said it or tried to put some kind of display on you or you get mad at somebody because they mad at you. You a sucker if you mad at somebody

because somebody else is mad at you or feels some kind of way about you. You know what I'm saying? But that's what it is. And he did that on the world stage.

He got caught up and beat in that arena and forgot those cameras in his face. And my thing was, why would you do that to me? I'm not the dude to do that to. I help people. You know, anytime you need me, I'm there. I've been there for you, Scratch, many, many times. I asked you to come be there for me.

You haven't been there once. To teach me to NPC, I asked you to teach me to come do my Internet internet show you never came once every time you asked me to be there i've been there shout your shit on my radio show scratch vision and all that but you said you said something important earlier you said that um when you reached out to when kane reached out to you he asked you well what's what's going on with you and scratch because i told scratch i don't we came that uh kane um Kane After Kane asked me to After I called Kane back And told him I was going to do it

With Chris He called me back 30 seconds later He was like Yo what's going on With you and Scratch I don't even know how I don't remember how he knew

But then I told him I was like yo This is what happened He was like yo Do me a favor man You know Just let it go I said you know what

Can't shit on me three times Usually a nigga get away With that one time And that's it I was like you know know what, K? It's about y'all. It's about y'all. It's cool. Now, let's keep it very funky. Had I told Scratch or had

I told K that I was going to do it, Scratch wouldn't even have been on the show. K and Ress wouldn't have got him. So he wouldn't have even been on the show. So for him to go in there and say the rhyme I was going with was about K It was like come on B

This your opportunity to take To try to shit on me In front of the world Really Why would you do that Me and you would do that Be on the phone every other day But it shows you

That you never know Where it's going to come from first And it's nothing new I've been going through This shit forever I put out soundtracks In the streets With Jay and Nas

And this one And DJs wouldn't play My records on the album Or the record You was on and DJs wouldn't play my records on the album or the record You was on the album. They would play my records on the radio because they don't want to see kick and pre get no further Kid got hard kick up big and it's stupid because you DJs I'm saying this shit to you the middle to with a cab at Yeah, yeah, say to you can't yeah, you DJs You trip over Playing everybody's

record that don't give a shit about you. You trip over dudes that you go crazy over playing this one's record and that one. They don't even call to see if you healthy, if you ate, if you good, anything. But somebody that's in your business that do the same thing that you're doing, that's trying to get

the same struggle go off the same way you are in the DJ business, you won't support them you won't play their music because you think it's taken away from you you dumbass all of you are dumbasses that think that way all of you got something to say see me all of you are dumbasses that think that way smarten up if i blow up you blow up if you open the door for me You blow up You open the door for yourself For the DJ to go and be better That's what my whole shit always been

It always been that So why would you hate on the album Soundtrack to the streets Why would you hate on anything I put out You dumbass Take it how you take it Now you're right They should see that supporting themselves you take it. Now you're right.

They should see that supporting themselves. If they support a fellow DJ, they support things that they might do in the future. So now I did this album, The Love. And regardless of if a DJ played or nobody played, my shit is dope. I sound better than a lot of you rappers. And I don't even do it.

You want your shot ready? I think it's time for a shot It's time for a shot Yeah I think it's time for a shot I ain't gonna lie You was talking your shit I'm talking about shit It's time to talk shit We on trick shots

I'm talking shit Time to take a piss too I'm gonna take a shot first Yo I literally Stood for 60 hours If Jay didn't stand up For taking a piss

I wasn't standing up To take a piss Oh I'm taking a piss I up for taking a piss, I wasn't standing up to take a piss. Oh, I'm taking a piss. I did not take a piss. I had Jay-Z loose the other day. Is that right? Yeah, he came to see me.

Last party I did for Jay, I did his Oscar party. I never seen Jay dance. The gold Oscar party? In L.A. The gold one. Right. I never seen him. He somewhat invited us. I never seen him dance before.

I don't get invited to shit like that. You know what I mean? I never seen him dance before. He danced for a long time with Beyonce. He was dancing. It was crazy. I never seen that. To see that was bugged out.

I see Kanye big you up too in the documentary. Yeah, yeah. He sure did. He put me in the bar. Yeah, what was the bar? What was the bar? He said something with the kick of pre's. He said, is she somebody in the documentary. Yeah, yeah. He sure did. He put me in the bar. Yeah, what was the bar? What was the bar? He said, someone with the kick,

Capri's, he said, somebody in the kick, I don't know. That's what put me in the bar, but thank you. Shout out to Chilla Jones, dude,

he did a dope joint. Right. Battle rap joint. So, right now, and I want you to be clear, what's your favorite party? The white boy parties

where the girls rip out wind days, they show the titties? The black parties? Old school parties? New school parties? If God said, listen, you got one party to do to get to heaven.

The party that has young and old together. Everybody together. What party is that called? Whatever party that is. It's not called spring break, because old niggas don't go to spring break no more. Well, you know, the thing is,

a lot of older people don't party with the younger people, and the younger people don't party with the older people. But then in my parties, it be like that. You see younger and older together, they all have a good time because my whole thing always been a balance. If you listen to my radio show, it's called the block party. Kid Capri's block party. A block party, you go to a block party, right? Everybody is different ages.

They dress different, live different. It's cotton candy and heroin on the same block. Yeah, nobody's separated. Everybody have a good it's cotton candy and heroin nobody's separated everybody have a good time cotton candy and heroin is on the same block it's on the same shit and that's what I'm on

I'm on the same balance I play the new shit better than the new than the young DJ so I don't lose my ear because I get older I stay in it listen to my album

The Love you can tell right there right and you did it on your own? I did the whole album. Produced the whole album. Wrote the whole album. Didn't ask no mainstream artist to get on it.

I got my daughter, Vina Love. I got Mr. Lex, the reggae artist. And I got Lavelle, R&B artist. That's it. I couldn't ask anybody to be on my joint. I just started doing my own. I'm going to say, on your own, no label. Well, I produced it.

I wrote it. And it's on my label. And it's going through Empire. Oh, OK. Big up to Ghazi. Let's make some noise for Ghazi. Yeah, shout out to do it. I'm going to say, on your own, no label. Well, I produced it, I wrote it, and it's on my label when it's going through Empire. Oh, okay. Big up to Ghazi. Let's make some noise for Ghazi. Yeah, shout out to Ghazi. So what made you want to do that?

I did everything I could do with this DJ business. I did it all. You know what I'm saying? I sat in the quarantine and I watched a lot of sucker shit going on. Right?

Dudes that was standing in front of a Maybach before the quarantine, talking about they getting money, soon as the quarantine hit, five days later, they begging for cash apps. It was in the Honda XM? Yo, send $50 of my cash app.

Yo, send $20 of my cash. We talking about DJs. Yeah. I ain't gonna find a lot of cash apps. You sent a lot of cash apps? Right. DJ Envy would send me the link and I'd just be like,

all right, cool. Yeah, that's the shit. But it's a difference. For DJs, they're serious. Oh, for DJs. Not Envy, for example. No, I'm for Envy.

DJ Envy, like a new DJ. I mean, a lot of DJs that relied on club business weren't surviving. Wait. Wait a minute.

It's a difference. When people want to send you money because you're working, put your little pin up there, you're working. Opposed to you turning around every five minutes, asking for a cash app. Yo, who can send me $50 on my cash app in two minutes? Yo, send me $20 on my cash app. It sound like we begging.

Yeah, that's a new era shit. It sound like we begging. Yeah, that's a new era shit. It sound like we begging. That's new era shit. Exactly. No, but here's my thing. The quarantine happened five days ago. You doing bad already?

Right. Don't try to hit me with the bullshit. You doing bad already? You taking advantage of people in their misery. That's what you're doing. I ain't doing it like that.

Exactly. That's how you use that excuse thing as doing bad. You wasn't doing bad in five days. Shut up. Who the fuck is you talking to? So with that being said,

I was on the net for three... Your bills must have been crazy. I was on the net for three years. Never asked for a dollar. I made no panty Sunday t-shirts to sell to people and it sold out and I never sent them to them.

Never took their money because I felt guilty taking money from people that... The reason why I never sent it to them. Never took their money. Because I felt guilty taking money from people that the reason why I did it was because promoters and fans sell out my joints. Promoters had me come around the country, around the world, and fans come and sell it out. I felt like this was my way of giving

something back. Give it to a free, like, I sit here playing, this is my way of giving something back to them. Like, yo, you know what I'm saying? So when I seen, not that they were getting money, because if you burning electricity,

you working, people should want to pay you and say, yo, you entertaining me? Yo, let me send you some bread. That's dope. But the narrative

changed when you turned around in people's misery. Yo, let me see you can send me $50 of my cash. And you a D, you call yourself a DJ.

This is something that took care of me my whole career. It makes us look like we thirsty got promoters watching this shit Promoters looking at any pay these things what they want Yeah, we're begging for money So a little crazy to me and I stood on it I said what I said and at first people didn't understand it so they got on my live and they understood it and I even

Told him I say your ideas that this rock they let us play music. We supposed to be doing this shit Then let us do it because of the situation. But now you're over here asking for money. We're going to get cut off. And that's exactly what happened. It started getting cut off. Because if Mariah Carey looks at her shit and she say, yo, they're playing my music over here. They're going to be like, yeah, how long have they been playing it?

Let's go back to the videotape. See how long it's been going on? Okay, yeah. And they cut you off. That's what happened to the videotape. See how long it's been going on? Okay, yeah. And they cut you off. That's what happened. I didn't want that to happen. I was off for three years on there.

Never had a problem. Yeah, because then they got their pens and their pens are saying cash out and some shit like that. It wasn't the pen. It was them saying it.

It was like they were begging for it. Because D-Nice, D-Nice. He didn't do the cash out. He didn't say it one time. He didn't say, yo, send money to my cash app

He put his pin up That's it And he was somebody Like myself That could've got a Big big big bag Had he turned around And said yo

Send money to my cash app Regardless if it looked cheesy or not He could've did that And blew up I would've said money to his pin He didn't have to do that He didn't do it You know what I'm saying

So That was one of the things I was mad at Scratch at. Because Scratch, when I put that post up, Scratch went under my comment, before you say something about me, D-Nice and S&S taking cash apps with your narcissistic ways and whoopty

whoopty whoop. I wasn't even talking about y'all. I wasn't even thinking that I was talking. That's what he said. That's what the problem was On the IG, under my comment And that's what Big Daddy K And he could have called me And he said this shit under my comment

I wasn't even talking about them I'm talking about niggas that wasn't DJs That was doing this shit That was making the business That me and you scratch our end That make us look like we thirsty Like you supposed to be on my side Instead you took this opportunity

to put the attention on yourself and shit on me because i'm standing up for something that's right when you could have called me i didn't understand that like so that was my stance i remember mr c called me he was like more than that he's like yo you were a thousand percent right at what you said he said but more than that he said i have a different way of looking at it. He said, these are the same dudes that were standing in front of a Maybach talking about they get money as soon as the shit happened. They begging for cash apps. That's where I got it from.

That's the truth. In the name of the DJ. Huh? In the name of the DJ they begging for cash. Exactly. And it made us look like we thirsty. It was nobody else No actors No

Nobody else It was just the DJs And it made us look like We not doing good But was these same guys Asking for this cash app Were they entertaining On Instagram

During the pandemic Yes they were Some motherfuckers put cash app And don't do shit They wasn't even doing shit They was talking shit With their mom Yeah you're right

That's right Talking shit It wasn't even doing nothing They were just taking Advantage of people's misery At the time It was going on And that's what I had

To plow with And the only reason Why I said something Had to plow with it Because I was doing it Before God damn Quarantine came up I was doing it for three years

Before the quarantine came Two shows a week Every week Never ask somebody for a dime So yeah We in this situation Yeah I know you But there's a classy way

Of doing things If you need it Yo I'm up here DJ And you see me Playing Come see me tomorrow If you like me When this shit opens up

Have me come do your wedding Have me come do your That's a classy way Of doing things It's like It's a certain way People take advantage Of everything

Somebody said hookah one day and everybody started smoking fucking hookah. You don't even know what hookah is. In Europe, they call it shisha. You follow what I'm saying? Thanks for that tidbit. So that's what I'm saying. Like, that's what my problem was. But I'm not

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So have you ever, like, did a party? These people will just come up to you and want you to play what they want to hear. Yeah. It'd be usually drunk people. That's a jukebox. It'd be females. It'd usually be females that get drunk.

Like one time, there's someone in that chick, she was with a man, and she's begging on the side. I don't really be in booths, but it was a spot that only had a booth. There was no space to be set up at. But she's banging the booth. Yo, play some Jamaican music.

Banging the booth. Was she Jamaican? No. So I stopped the music. Play some Jamaican music. Like, yo, are you crazy or something? Like, what's wrong with you? So I stopped the music Like yo They seem to make it music Like yo Are you Are you Are you fucking crazy

Or something Like what's wrong with you Like And that guy had a But also For the drink All for a man to drink You know

But yeah You go through that Sometimes I don't really go through it Because When you keep people occupied They don't think to say that It's when you're not

Doing your job Somebody comes up And says yo Can you play this And play that Because they're They're bored Right That only happens they don't think to say that. It's when you're not doing your job, somebody comes up and says, yo, can you play this and play that? Because they're bored. That only happens when they're bored. That's why you got people that keep everybody on their toes.

You got to keep everybody excited at one time, so this way, they will never feel like they have to do that. They really have no right, because if you work anywhere, I'm not coming to your job

to tell you how to do your job. So why do you feel like you should come up and tell me how to do bars or any other DJ? That's what their job is to do. But in their mind, they paid the cover fee

and that's paying your fee too. Yeah, they think that you're the mariachi band that they want to hear all the songs from. But they're also paying the cover fee to a movie theater.

They're not coming over there to tell the guys to show the movie. You see what I'm saying? But they do tell the police, I pay your motherfucking taxes. Well, they should. Because a lot of police,

some do their job. I know a lot of great policemen, but there's policemen that got their ass ripped when they were young. Just like TSA dudes at the airport. They got their ass ripped

when they were young. The girls didn't find them attractive. And they mad. They grew up mad. So they got a badge and they want to take that shit out on people that, you know, you know, you can see who that is. Yeah, but you can't confuse that with people interfering when the cops are doing their

regular job and jumping into the mix. Yeah. That's the equivalent of going up to the DJ booth. That's the equivalent. Yeah, that's what I'm Comparing it to yeah Both is wrong Both is wrong Like coming in and saying Hey man

I want a hair Ain't no half stepping And you like You're in the middle You better half stepping You're in the middle Of cheap keeping Y'all niggas come up to you

I mean old niggas Come up to you man I want a hair Ain old niggas come up to you, man. I don't want you here. Ain't no Half-Steppin'. You don't know which one it is. Which ain't no Half-Steppin'. Yo, just to stop and talk to someone that comes to the DJ

is a fucking vibe killer. But what if I know the DJ? Even worse. Even worse if you know the DJ. Really? See, what people don't understand, if I'm in a certain place, if a DJ's in a certain place

and he's doing a certain thing, you can't, as a person, as a customer, come up and say, yo, let me stop. Just let, yo, do this. He may not be in that area, but you, as a person that's not a DJ or somebody that's not an entertainer,

you're not thinking that. You're just thinking about yourself. You're not thinking about the you're just thinking about yourself. You're not thinking about the bigger picture, which is the crowd. They think about Burger King, have it their way. Exactly.

This is not Burger King. This is not Burger King. I got to satisfy all, see, if people thought, see, here's the thing. People want the end result. They don't care what happened

before the end result. And that is, I got to deal with getting dressed, end result And that is I gotta deal with Getting dressed Packing my clothes I gotta deal with Getting to the airport I gotta deal with Possibly losing my stuff

I gotta deal with Asshole TSA That feel like They wanna be cops I gotta deal with Lateness I gotta deal with Losing my bags

Crates back in the days Right I gotta deal with Losing my bags I gotta deal with Getting there Then I gotta deal with Getting to

Checking the hotel Getting something to eat Doing sound check Coming back to get dressed All these different things Before I do A party to be in front of you They don't care about

They don't know none of that All they know is Was he good at the party Right That's all they care about Right The same way it goes Vice versa

Those people pay To get there in a car. If they don't have a car, they got a podcast or whatever. How they got to get there? They get there. They pay to get in. They got to buy clothes to look fly to be at a party. Once they get in, they got to buy drinks.

They do all this because you're in the building. How do you not give them the best you can give them? So it works both ways. You see what I'm saying? The bottom line is the end result. People want to be entertained. It's your you can give them. So it works both ways. You see what I'm saying? The bottom line is the end result. People want to be entertained. It's your job to entertain them.

They don't care about anything that happened before that. Even though they probably should if they knew what you went through to go.

Right. You done shows. You know who you're doing. Yes, hell yeah. Right. You know what your preparation was before you went

to go hit that stage. Yes. Right. And you did it. I'm already prepared. I'm a foul nigga. I just go away. You prepare me all the way. Preparation was before you would go hit that stage. Yes, right I can tell you this I can tell you this whether there was 14 people there or 40,000 people there if they had fun I had fun. That's it

That's it. But the whole preparation of everything to make that happen is something that people don't care. They pay their ticket. Entertain me. If you're not good, I'm going to get on the net and talk about how bad your ass was. Right. Even if it ain't your fault. Bad equipment.

Bad sound man. They blame it all on you. It's you. It's not the promoter. It's not bad sound man. Yeah, they blame it all on you. It's you. It's not the promoter, it's not the sound man, it's you. If you ain't did what I paid my money for, I'm going to get

that show ass. So imagine doing that and you got 250 shows every year. Every year you do this constantly and never get no bad reports.

Did you say you got 250 shows? I was doing 250 shows And went down to 200 And then I told my manager Christy Clifford Which is an incredible manager I told her

We have to slow down I just want to do weekends I can't do all these dates That cover that beat I used to do shows with Lee Mr. Lee used to have me come down New Jersey Is it Drop Dilla or Wayne was down? No, no, he probably was both I used to do shows with Lee. Mr. Lee? Mr. Lee used to have me come down to New Jersey.

Was he a drug dealer or Wayne was down? No, he played with me. Mr. Lee was doing a gymnastics routine on stage. And then down here in Miami, I started doing cameo and I got me a crib. I bought me a crib. I remember you had loops when you performed at Luke's. Luke's, I was doing Luke's. I did like three or four Luke's shows. That shit was off the chain.

When I started doing cameo, I bought a crib down, I got a crib down here on 12th and Collins. I had the crib for nine years. Did you do ecstasy at that time? No? Yeah, I did ecstasy. It just felt like ecstasy time. Mr. Lee? Mr. Lee, kick him free? Kick him free and ecstasy, man.

I'm out of here. All that shit was going on out here. It's still going on. But, you know, being on the road that much, you know, I had to calm it down. I was like, yo, let me, I got to just do the weekends now because it was just too much.

It was too much. And I wanted to do one thing. So when the pandemic happened, I got a chance to, because I've been on the thing. So when the pandemic happened, I got a chance to, because I've been on the road from 88 to the pandemic. Jesus. If I took off two months

within that time to accumulate it together, that's a long time. I've been on the road forever. So when the pandemic happened, I had a chance to sit down and focus on other shit. I had other things

that I wanted to do. Other aspirations, right? Right. So that's how I did this album, The Love. I did three other albums. Besides that, I did one album called Top Tee and before this, I started an album like four years ago with all the bad rappers. I never put it out because music kind of changed. I said, you know what?

Let me just hold off on it and get back to it. So when I did this album, I went back to the Top Tee album while I was doing this album and re- back to the Top T album while I was doing this album and re-updated the Top T album. So I did that. I did an album with a group called The Hoodies. You might see The Hoodies on the net doing their thing. I just finished the album

on them, produced their joint. I got an artist called Foose. I did another album on myself. So I did four albums. I did two cartoons on one of the characters on the Proud Family cartoon that's coming back out. And then I did my old cartoon. I did a cartoons On one of the characters On the Proud Family cartoon That's coming back out And then I did my old cartoon I did a movie called Mr. Every Ever

On me I'm 95% done on that I opened up my Colonized Sucker Free And we opened up East Coast Capital Realty I did all this in the pandemic All this was done in the pandemic

So Jazz She has East Coast Capital And we did all this in the pandemic. So, when the album came out, it was because I needed something else. I needed just the time to sit down and focus. That's why the album sounded the way it does, because I had a chance to sit down and realize what I was doing. Being on the road, I even lost 40 pounds. Because being on the road, even if you exercise every night, you're still eating every night after the show, so you don't get a chance to catch up on yourself.

I lost 40 pounds in a pandemic. So as much as it was a bad thing for a lot of people, it was pretty good for me because of these reasons. And I got a chance to get it off. A lot of people needed to be still for a second. That's what the pandemic did. Needed to sit down. Right. So when is Kickapoo Book

coming out? I've been working on the movie. A biopic? Huh? A biopic? The movie is cinematic. Wait till you see this shit. It look incredible.

Is the movie first or the book first? It's gonna be the movie first. I'll probably do the book after. Damn, Niggas usually do it first. I know. That's dope. Let them go.

That's fine. I know. I always do things a little awkward. Yeah, that's fine. So the movie first, then... Because I read Malcolm's shit, then I was like, all right, cool. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it don't have... There's no rules to production. That's true. I know. There's no rules to production. There's always shit in the book

that's not in the movie. Exactly. Right. Exactly. Because with a movie Even with like Like you take Like you take

Any movie You take James Brown movie Get on up Mick Jagger Mick Jagger did Get on Up But he also did the documentary Which is Mr. Dynamite Right

Things that Mr. Dynamite Is not in Get on Up Because Get on Up because Get On Up, you already have a certain amount of time to tell a story. You don't have a lot of time in a movie. So a lot of things get left out. A lot of things get cut off.

That's why documentary is so important and that's why people love documentary so much. Unsung and all these things because it tells the rise and the fall. You know what I'm saying? And that's why it's so dope. So with this documentary I did, it's called Mr. Every Era. Mr. Every Era. Right. You know what I'm saying? And that's why it's so dope. So with this documentary I did, it's called Mr. Every Era.

Mr. Every Era. Mr. Every Era. Like Mr. Everything but Every Era. Right, Every Era. I've been to Every Era. I heard you had a Latino last name, Mr. Arriera.

Ah, that's very racist. I'm like, let me find out you're Dominican. That's very racist, man. I like the racism. Black in the tag. So Mr. Every Era shows a lot of stuff

and when we bought it, certain companies, I don't want to a lot of stuff And when we brought it To certain companies I don't want to say the names But when we brought To certain companies They said Yo your story is too long Kid to do a movie

So we need to do six parts Why? So That's what we're doing right now So it's a six part documentary Docu-series Well it's been Well we put it together

We're going to put it down As six parts Because the story is too long. It's too long. It's too much things to talk about. And it needs,

no, it needs to be that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You worked with Mariah Carey too, right? I didn't work with her. I did, we were cool, but I never,

never worked with her. Never DJ'd for her? Who's the wildest person you've DJ'd for? I'm going to tell you the first person I did a party, I'm going to tell you who I did a party with,

our first party, Martha Stewart. What? Who was the wildest person you've ever DJed with? I'm going to tell you who I did a party with. First party. Martha Stewart. What? I did Martha Stewart's first party. Oh, her first party. Her first hip-hop party. It was your first party. Her first hip-hop party.

I did Martha Stewart. I did a party. This is when she came home, or this is before she went to jail? This was when she... Because I think she came home. That's the crazy thing. She comes home, but it's hip-hop. I think she came home first.

Yeah, she already had a baby last year. I did a party home. That's crazy. She comes home with his hip hop. I think she came home first. Yeah, she already had brains. I did a party at Donald Trump's house. Okay, this is pre-racial Donald Trump. Yeah, I did a party at Donald Trump's house. This is before he became a fan of y'all. Before he became all that, I did a party at Donald Trump's house. I did Eddie Murphy. I did Spike Lee.

Let's stay on Trump House. Okay, where's Trump House at? Florida. That shit look like you need a helicopter to get around. Jeffrey Epstein shit is that? Jeffrey Epstein. I don't know. Jeffrey Epstein shit, yeah.

Them niggas had a little rape island. Yo, man. Rape island. You're right. Diverting. I definitely didn't mean to say it like that But hey Alright so you went to Donald Trump house

How was it looking? Alright It was shit crazy Right You look like you need to Matter of fact The room that we was in Everything was solid gold

How about that? Pitches Forks Knives It was gold It was before he was president It was before he was president When he's still hanging out with Russell

Me, Venus The The William Simpson. The real. Wow. Yeah, it was pretty big. Pretty dope. I'm going to ask you how much did Trump pay, but I don't want to.

It was all right, bro. It was nice. It would have been funny if he didn't pay. No, Trump pays, man. Trump got the whole country paid. Trump paid the whole country. Trump got the whole country paid. Trump paid the whole country. Trump got the PPB loans lit. You think this war would have happened

if Trump was still in office? Why? What do you think, Tusken? I don't think our side had anything to do. We wouldn't have controlled it. I think he would have stopped it. Let's be clear. I know what you're saying. This is some real hood shit.

Niggas don't got no army no more. Let me just go invade them know what you're saying. This is some real hood shit. Nigga like, yo, man, them niggas don't got no army no more. Let me just go invade them niggas. Like, that sounds like some straight shit, though. You're talking about Putin thinking that. Yeah, like, Putin like, they ain't really lit like that no more.

I'm going to just go take over their shit. What's not hood about that? You know, the only thing... Like, what's not street about that? I'm not a fan of Trump, to be honest with you. But the only reason I would say that maybe it would have been

a thought not to do it is because Trump was so wild that maybe Putin would have been like, yeah, I don't know. This guy, we can't predict what this guy's going to do. Ain't nobody wild in this motherfucker, so I might as well not do it, right? Who, Trump? Yeah, because Trump would say crazy shit. Like, he told North Korea, yo, we're going to burn your shit down.

At least Trump came outside every day. Like, Biden, where he at? He needs to... Yo, he needs a doctor. Yo, listen, At least Trump came outside every day. Like Biden, where he at? He needs to... Yo, he needs a doctor, bro. He needs a doctor. Yo, listen, I'm not a fan of neither. But I'll tell you one thing.

No, I'm not a fan of neither either, bro. I'll tell you one thing. Trump came outside. Nah, but Trump was talking a little crazy, bro. Trump had COVID and came outside. I can't take the way Trump talked. Yo, I think he had COVID. He's like, I got COVID.

He's taking his mask off What are you going to do with the microphones Mr. President Aren't you speaking COVID Into the microphone But Trump is crazy I think he bigged up Putin He's like yo shout him out for what he's doing right now Kanye bigged up Putin

Not for what he's doing right now Relax I think Trump said he picked him up. He said something like, I respect it. He said something like that. I respect him for it. This is political.

We never really talk about shit like this on Trigger. This is what you bring here, Kicker Briggs. I'm sorry, man. You got us over here. You know what I'm saying? I'm sorry.

Before we... I don't know if we're getting out of here or not, but I want to talk about your history with Big Al. Was it strictly because of Columbia Records? Was it the Harlem Connect

Nah man Big Al was cool You know I was cool With DITC Absolutely So yeah And they asked me To just do

To put it on record I was just doing it But I used to go down To go see Big Al Just on random Just hang out down there I used to tell Big Al I was like yo Al

You a big You about to be something I was like yo You know what I understand you got your boys You love your boys Out here and everything But you gotta stay Off the street corner man You gotta stay Off the street corner He used to be something, man I was like, yo, you know what? I understand you got your boys You love your boys out here and everything But you got to stay off the street corner, man You got to stay off the street corner

He used to be outside all the time And I used to just drive down there Just hang out with him I used to tell him, like, yo, you know This is before the records That you use on the record His single? Well, this is after Pete put it on

I used to tell him, like, you know Like, you just, just, you know what I'm saying? Like, just try to be low, like You know what I'm saying? Like, just stay out the way Like, you know, just go and do your records. Just do your stuff. But, you know, L was so cool.

It was just so good. Like, if you listen to the way he rhymed, when you met him, it was a total opposite. In what way? The way he rhymed, he rhymed like he'll chop your head off. Right. But when you met him, he was just a Subtle cool dude Like just a little fly little dude

Like It wasn't like he was He wasn't rah rah Nah Nowhere near It was like It was just cool So

I used to tell him like Dog Like I know these your boys Everybody's cool You know I know all that But like Try to be in the house right Do your shoot It's 420 by the way Exactly 420 Just stay out cool, you know, I know all that, but like, try to be in the house right, do your shoot.

It's 420 by the way. Exactly, 420. Just stay out the way, you know what I'm saying? Like, just try to stay out the way. And unfortunately, what happened, happened, man, and it wasn't his fault, you know. And, you know, it was a big loss, man, because I wanted to see how far he was going to go. I think he would have gone. He would have been crazy.

He would have been crazy. Crazy. He would have been crazy. You know, it's unfortunate, but he was one of the dope dudes, definitely. Yeah. And you met Big and Tupac, correct? Absolutely. Matter of fact, you see this? Did you see this? No, but send it to us. I'll show it to you right now.

Me and Big right there hugging each other. Fire. Can you send it to us, too, so we can put it in? Yes, I'll send it to you. Yeah. Me and Big right there hugging each other. That's fire. Can you send it to us too so we can put it? Yes, that's fire. Me and Bug, me and Big hugging each other.

That's fire. I never met Tupac. I know y'all must have interacted a lot. Yeah, I mean, he immortalized me. Big, Peace Devarje, Brucey B,

Kid Capri, Funk Man, he immortalized me. But Big was cool, man. Solid dude, man. I remember I did a show with him in Detroit. And matter of fact, it was me, him, and Alex Keller.

And the players was outside? Huh? The players was outside? No, it was a little different. It was a little different. He was in the back. Okay. In the backstage.

And he had a car. The way they set it up, it was a car that drives to the dressing room. So I went back there. I seen him. It was like, yo, big, what's up? He was like, I got some music that you might want to hear, whatever. He was like, you got some shit?

I was like, yeah, I got some shit. He went on stage. When he went on stage, I remember hearing this roar. It was like... It was like I never heard a roar like that from a crowd. He was that big, man.

When that dude hit the stage, it was mangle time. So it was unfortunate we lost him as early as we did. But, you know, he was so powerful, his legacy is going to live forever. How about Tupac? I never met Tupac. I know Pac. Every time I seen Pac, I remember one time I was in L.A., I was at Crenshaw.

I was at some restaurant. It was like 3 o'clock in the morning. I went to some restaurant with my people. And Pac was sitting in the restaurant with some dude. Nobody else in the restaurant. And I hugged him, and he had a bulletproof vest on. Then I seen him in New York at this seminar they had. I forgot the name of the seminar, but it was at the New York Hilton Hotel. And I seen him in New York at this seminar. They had it. I forgot the name of the seminar, but it was at the New York Hilton Hotel.

And I seen him then. Hugged him then. He had a bulletproof vest on. Every time I seen him. I seen him on 125th Street one time. Me and Biz was together. We took this picture, all of us. Hugged him. He had a bulletproof vest on.

It was like he was kind of like knew that he was going to die. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? And that was unfortunate too, man, because, you know, I think if he would have been here, he probably would have started a school or something. Nah, it would have been a prison.

He would have been somewhere over there. Both of them would have been around. Both of them, yeah. I could imagine what they would have done together. Absolutely, absolutely. So, yeah, definitely.

That was a big loss in hip-hop, for sure. How about Prince? Does Kickapoo have a Prince story? Absolutely. So, yeah, definitely. That was a big loss in hip-hop for sure. How about Prince? Does Kickapoo have a Prince story? Absolutely. Oh, my God. Yo, Prince came to a party I did. Let me get my shot ready. Yeah, I'm getting my shot ready, too.

Prince came to the key. I did a party downtown in Manhattan called the Key Club. I'm sorry, not the Key Club. I'm about to say, if Prince came to Skate Key. I'm sorry, not the Key Club, the Sky Club. Sky Club. And Prince comes in. Was he flowing?

Watch this. He sits with me. He sits in the booth with me for two hours. I put another DJ on the play. Me and Prince, you will forget that he will have his ass out.

Yes, I'm about to say, was his ass out. Super, super, super cool. Like, you will forget that he will have his ass out. Yes, I'm about to say, what's his ass out? Super, super, super cool. Like, you totally forget he's Prince. Like, solid and nice with the basketball. Crazy with the ball. Super crazy with the ball. Don't even play yourself.

Like a real NBA motherfucker. Like, really nice like that. Yo, he sat there with me for two hours, bruh, and we just talked about all kind of shit. Then he had me come to his club where they did Purple Rain at. The club he had in Minneapolis. I did it twice for him. Did that joint.

When I tell you, man, you totally forget he's Prince. Like, I'm talking he had these pigtails in his hair, like these big ass braids in his hair, sitting in the club. We sat there for two hours, and I did a little set where I played all his shit back-to-back. Played his shit back-to-back. And he was like, yo, I never heard a DJ play my shit like that.

And this is how he was talking. Like, some of the dudes that you see that we grew up on on television and we looked at, we look at them in a certain way. But they ain't really real people. They just people like us. They no different. You know what I'm saying? Like Ronald Osley.

I'm sitting here being Ronald Osley sitting together once that we did a boat ride. This is, this cruise for seven days.

Me, Ronald Osley, Gabad, Bacay, Dougie Fred, like a whole bunch, new addition, a whole bunch of people.

And I said, I said, Al Green was on stage, right? He had this white dope suit over this ruffle shirt. You know, and me and Ronald Rousey sitting next to each other.

My shot is already loaded. Right. I'm being honest. So I said to Ronald Rousey, I said, yo, you like Al Green? He was to Varda, I said, yo, you like I'm green? He was like, yeah,

I like I'm green, but what the fuck he got on? Yo, he was shitting on his clothes. And he's saying this while he got a chain on, jeans on,

leather jacket, hat backwards, baseball cap, sitting there like me. That's what I'm saying. Like, we see people a certain kind of way, but they be different

Whitney Houston Let's hit up with some Whitney Houston Shout out to Whitney Houston We see it a certain kind of way It was a different way Not that That knocks it down Or anything like that

Or anything like that But you know people People are people We are people We are no better than nobody else Just because you have a Startup job Or you're an entertainer It doesn We are no better than nobody else. Just because you have a stardom job or you're an entertainer, it doesn't make you better

than anybody else. You just have a different job. That's why when people embody this, I said this on one of my records, a new record I did. I hate a little rapper that walks around like a little rapper all day. Motherfucker don't know how to turn it off. I'm not Kid Capri when I wake up. I'm David Love.

And then I'm Kid Capri When I need to turn it on That's an ill DJ name though too David Love Many people said to me Yo Kid Why you ain't call yourself D Love

DJ D Love Because at the time You made up a name Right Grandmaster Flash Wasn't going to call himself Joseph Sala Right

You see what I'm saying You made up a name To be bigger So that's what it was But yeah that was I could have been D-Love or whatever But that's who I am I'm not Kid Capri when I wake up

And I'm that all day I know how to turn it off I turn it off when I need to be But there's some dudes that embody this shit all day And they think that they're doing people a favor You're not doing nobody a favor People are doing you a favor and when they cut them lights off,

you're going to really see. When you are too busy to sign an autograph for somebody, all of a sudden, you're too busy to do a drop for a DJ or anybody that needs a drop, you would have loved for people to ask you for that before you got on. Before they knew you, right.

So now you're on, you're too busy for that? You feel like you're too big for that? You ain't shit. You see DJs for that before you got on. When nobody knew you, right. So now you on, you too busy for that? You feel like you too big for that? You ain't shit if you tell people that. You see DJs do that before? Be too big and then fall off? Say that again? You see DJs do that before? I see DJs, entertainers, and people that's just business

be very unhumble. First they humble, they get on, they're very unhumble, and then they fall off and they're more humble than they was before they started. I've seen it over and over again because people come and go. The business come and go. That's why you have to understand that

there's always somebody that's more talented to you. Listen, Michael Jordan was Michael Jordan, but you don't think there was a Michael Jordan somewhere else in the world that was nice that nobody knew about? He just didn't have the accolades. He didn't have, that was known.

There's always going to be somebody that's good or better than you. That's why you have to appreciate the position you're in. People will break their arm to be in a position to be yourself

and yourself is it right now. Right. You know how many entertainers that y'all haven't called yet that would love to be in this seat to tell their story at Drink Champs? You see what I'm saying? That's a privilege.

How do you knock that? How do you act like that's not a great thing for yourself? And how do you treat people less than because you're in that position? You was not busy before, but now you're too busy to speak to people and sign autographs and, you know, it goes head to head. This is a business that we in. And in order for you to remain and stay as long as I have, I've been in this business hot 30 years, never had no downtime. You know what I'm saying? I'm a testament of it. In order to stay like that, you have to treat people fairly. You're not better than nobody. You just have a different job.

That's all. And people have to understand that. Yeah, treat everybody with the same respect. That's it. Demand it and give it. That's it. Right. No more, no less.

And that's what makes you stay. That's what makes people respect you. And even if you fell off, people that was there when you was on will always have your back. They will always make sure they got you because they see how you treated people all the way up. It's not made for

everybody to last long. Nobody will ever last the distance. Everything has an ending. Everything has an ending. But if you were able to stay as long as you have, know that that's a blessing. Know that there's somebody that wasn't able to do that,

and you was. So with that being said, treat it fairly. Treat it with respect. Don't, you know, certain things I just see people do, I'll be looking on the net, I'll be looking at that shit, like, he don't look like he looks stupid. He don't know that you're playing yourself. You don't look, come on, B.

It's just certain shit you gotta, if you wake up in the morning You look in the mirror You gotta know how you look You look You know So you gotta carry yourself A certain way And that's just

I just see stuff That was like, damn But, you know You can't You ain't responsible For having everybody move You ever got caught In the east, west

West coast In the middle of the East coast, west coast B, let's keep in mind When the Suge thing happened on the Source I was the announcer I was the announcer on the television So I'm sitting in the fifth row

When it happened The energy in the room felt like anything was going to happen At any time When OutKast came out and they got booed It wasn't because OutKast wasn't good It was the bad Thing that was going on at the moment When OutKast came out and they got booed, it wasn't because OutKast wasn't good. It was the bad thing that was going on at the moment. In the middle of the East Coast, West Coast beef, I was going back and forth to California out there like it was nothing.

Like, I never had an issue. I was doing parties with Crips and Bloods and Mexican Gays. I did one party with Crips and Bloods and Mexican Gays at this warehouse. It was like some shit was going to jump off at any time. But because of me keeping them occupied so much. That sounds amazing though. In a warehouse, Chris, Bloods, and the Mexicans. Yeah, it was crazy.

Right, in the middle of Huntsman Beach, California. And, you know, beefs happen in parties when people are not occupied with people standing there and they're gripping each other they got chance to look at each other all right if you keep the people out the time you make the people feel good you can step on somebody's foot they be like

oh they can go anywhere right right but if they stand in there they have chance to get into shit I fortunately don't have problems At my parties I don't have shootouts I don't have gunfights I don't have no kind of fights at my joint Everybody is always having a good time No matter where I'm at

And the one thing I'm very proud of Is if they put a phone up They put it up to see me for a minute And that phone is down They're having a good time It's not standing on the phone Looking cute in the phone looking cute. Who started that shit? Who started

this shit? Yeah, he's an asshole. Who started this in the mirror looking cute? That narcissistic shit, I just don't get it. And I'm going to say this to the chicks. I'm going to say this to the chicks. If you bad already, you don't need that attention. You don't need to put extra shit on it.

You bad already. Right? Let us push you up. You don't need to put Extra shit on it You bad already Right Let us Let us Push you up You ain't gotta push yourself up Throw the picture up there We see it

That's it All that extra Looking in the mirror Narcissist It looks stupid to me I'm gonna be very honest with you That was a jump off Let me go back on

Back on We're back No no And you been knocking down shit for a long time. I know. I know. I know. No question. Did you finish the thought?

No, I didn't. Did you finish the thought about in the midst of the East Coast, West Coast stuff? Did you finish that thought? So, like, in the middle of the East Coast, West Coast beef, I'm going back and forth. You were able to still go to the West Coast. Still go. Probably the only one. Let me just tell you something

Straight up Def Jam It was so bad at one point And I think It was after I got Well I was doing something with Def Jam And as soon as I landed

In LA They had security for me Like They had like three Like that's how bad it was Like you couldn't even tell them I would tell you Why I think

Why I was so When you say you was doing it In the West Coast This couldn't even tell them after Big Pass. I'm going to tell you why I think, why I was so... When you say you was doing it in the West Coast, this is before Big Pass or after Big Pass? This is during the middle of the actual beef. Okay, okay.

This is in the middle of the beef. And I think the reason why I was so... I didn't catch any issues or any problems because I was always supporting the West Coast. Right.

I was the first to play... Let me go here. I was the first to play, let me go here. I was the first to play Ghetto Boys by playing Trixie on me on radio. That's why the very first award that I ever got was for the Ghetto Boys.

Was to buy plays on Trixie. That was my first award before any award I won because I made that mecca hot in New York. Same thing with Outkast. I made Southern Cal, playing listening to Cad that That record hot In New York Same thing with Outkast I made Southern Playing listening To Cadillac music Hot in New York

Before I played on the radio Before anybody played it They was never Playing these records You know what I'm saying So I built up With West Coast

I was playing NWA I'm not the reason For it blowing up In New York But I was so indulged In being in the West Coast parties and doing parties out there. Def Comedy Jam was out there.

It was just going crazy. It was just really big. So I caught a lot of respect in the West Coast because of the work I was putting in there before the beef happened. Right. You see what I'm saying? So when the beef happened,

I never had that issue. I would be in the worst, deadliest places, and everything would work out good Because I respect everybody I respect everybody It doesn't matter where you come from Or where you at You know

Nobody's better than nobody Yeah we started hip hop We was the first ones We were You know but I told Kool Herc You know Herc what do you think

Herc I told Herc What do you think It's gonna told Herc What do you think It's going to stay in the blocks It's never going to stay in the blocks Because it's so big It's going to go Out the world

Like And that's what it is International yeah And that's it So you have to treat everybody With the same amount of respect But Okay

I asked this to other people on the show And from your viewpoint Did you think that the beef was East coast versus west coast No Or was East Coast versus West Coast? No. Or was it crew versus crew? It was one person against one person. And because these two people had so much of an influence on both coasts, the coast got involved.

Too many people on each side got involved. It was just the coast got involved. It wasn't a coast against coast. It was, I got Big's back. I got Pop's back. Now what? So, it was that. It wasn't a thing where East Coast

hated the West Coast. Of course not. The West Coast hated it. It wasn't that. It was, Pop is repping the East. He's repping the West. Alright, well, I got his back. Period. That's it. And that's loyalty. That's what loyalty is. You got somebody's back that represents you.

Can't be mad at that. But the problem is that it became deadly. It became deadly. This wasn't supposed to be a pocket big dying. This is music, bro. We gonna die for music? It's supposed to be something that bring joy to our life and bring money To our pocket

And make bring joy To everybody Everybody's like We take this shit A little too serious That's why with all this Gay shit coming in And the music

And all that That's not for the music Bro We watching all these People die really Bro like this is music Kids It's kids

Yeah They don't see their future A lot of people Feel like they're not Going to live past 25 They feel like they're Going to live past A certain time

So they do certain shit To try To get as much in Before they go For what they think You know what I'm saying But it's not like that man You know

Got a long life to live A lot of shit to do Let me fill your cup up You know what I mean Absolutely That black excellence Absolutely You know what I mean God damn it That black excellence. Absolutely. You know what I mean?

God damn. Holy moly. I'm kind of holding myself good. I have mad shots. I have mad shots. I got another shot. There you go. And I'm holding myself pretty good here. I don't drink. Keep in mind. I'm proud of you. Don't drink.

You don't have to go anywhere. Let's take it to them trackmaster days. Now, were you down with Trackmasters as a producer? No. What happened was I was signed to Columbia.

Not to Trackmaster. You weren't signed to Trackmaster. Trackmasters had a deal with Columbia. They didn't have a deal yet when I got there. I was signed to Columbia

and I did a first album. The A&R at that time lost my dat tape to the album. The master dat? The master dat. So I told them, fuck y'all. I'm not doing no while when you lose my fucking dat, really. So for five years, I was signed to Columbia. I was already hot sizzling doing what I'm doing.

I didn't need no record. So for five years, I was there. It didn't do nothing. They just held me side. So then one day they called me and said, yo, we just put track masters with Columbia.

We want to put track masters with you to do your album. Being that I knew Tone and Polk, I was like, you know, I know them, right? Cool. And we ended up doing the album. I produced all the shit

track masters that they did. They did the Foxy Brown record with the Lox and they did the remix to the the shit track masters that they did. They did the Foxy Brown record with the Lox and they did the remix to the Unity record. Everything else I did. Norby came and did the album. That day, Norby came Pun, it was crazy. Pun came to the studio. I was recording

the Lost Boys. I took the Lost Boys out of the studio and I put Pun in. Pun came there with his wife and his kids. He pulled a chair up, sat in the chair Did one verse Did one ad-lib And was out the booth

For 15 minutes He had all his people He had his wife and his kids Sitting around him While he was doing this verse He was out the booth That's the record You meet him

And meet him as well I rocked on that record And um And that's how that happened That's it Fucking fantastic It was crazy It was crazy

That story vibes With Remy Ma's Recollection And your recollection happened. That's it. Fucking fantastic. It was crazy. That story vibes with Remy Ma's recollection and your recollection of Pun having his family around him. Yeah. Pun was no joke when it came to that. Yeah, Pun was serious. So what's your favorite thing right now? Is it making the music or performing the music or playing the music? Yours is a three-part question.

Making the music, performing the music, or playing the music? I love it all, man. I love it all. You can pick one. If God said... If I could pick one, playing the music. But I like, I love making the music. I love you know, writing. I love

being able to see people dancing to my shit. If I play it in the club, or if somebody played it in the car. Just like I walked in here and y'all was playing the album in here. That makes me feel like, damn, kid, you really did good. You did your shit. But let me ask you why you say playing the music. But remember, when he

plays the music, he also performs it. Right. Right. So that's the difference with him. There's been times like I have been having shows in like Poland or some shit like that. Right. Or, you know, Düsseldorf, Germany or something. And I will go there at 6 o'clock. You know, even though the doors open at 9,

this is regular shit like out here. And I'll go there at 6 o'clock and see people there. Right. I'm going to rock this motherfucker. All right, you're going to tear this shit down. So is it like that when you DJ and when you're sitting there and you walk in the club and do you anticipate? When I'm in my backstage, when I'm in my dressing room, my thing is, Jim, how's the crowd look?

Your comeback is like this, like that. If you put any crowd in front of me, watch this. Here's the deal. The same people that, the 50,000 that I might be in front of, if 50 people came, they're going to get the same energy as the 50,000. It's no different. You see what I'm saying? Especially if the 50 is going like,

it's no different. The energy is always going to be what it's going to be. Right. Right? But there's even, it goes even further than that. A promoter may call me And do everything

That I expect them to do On my rider Right And there's something like Rain happens Where Only 50 people may come Right

I'll tell that promoter Yo go set up something I'ma come do it for free Right Set up another joint I'ma come do it for free Where another artist Will say yo Is this still Act of God Ain't got nothing to do with me set up something, I'm going to come do it for free. Right. Set up another joint, I'm going to come do it for free. Where another artist would say,

yo, is this still, uh, act of God, ain't got nothing to do with me, give my money, I'm out. Pretty much. That promoter would say,

yo, kid got me, when I'm down, kid ain't going to kick me further, you're going to make sure I'm good. So now he has me come back six more times that year. That's fine.

Right. You're investing in yourself in that way. Yeah, because things can happen. You don't want to just take money from promoters. You want to make sure

that they're good. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of times, sometimes we just get into our own shit. Some promoters, because there's some janky promoters out there.

There are some janky promoters. But you shouldn't be dealing with janky promoters. That's true. It's up to you to pick and choose your worth. Because your price

should separate you from any janky promoters. Exactly. And not only that, you need to know your worth And that promoter Need to know your worth No but there's some scammers

Out here though kid There are Absolutely And you're going to run into them And then you stop After that point You identify them And move on

And that's it That's it They lose I got to take this shit But I know he's a It's the wrong thing To shit on somebody That you know

That's going to bring the money Always did great business Always does his job It's the wrong thing To shit on somebody That you know That's going to bring the money Always did great business Always does his job It's the wrong thing Because people think short term I always thought long term That's why I was able to stay 30 something years heavy

No down time Because I think long term I don't think that's short So a lot of times You think short You kill yourself And a lot of promoters do that. They want to get the quick money and

cut corners and all this dumb shit. If you're not ready to be a promoter, don't be one. It's as simple as that. Now, promoter is very hard. It's a very hard business. That's what I'm saying. If you're not ready for it, don't do it. That's why I never did it. I was going to promote myself around the country. Because they're popular and they got clout

in the city and they could just promote a party? And the crazy shit is your homies is not enough. It's not enough. You're going to invite your homies and your homies' girls. I'm going to tell you a funny shit. Okay. When the promoters try to be bigger than the artists on the flyer, why are you putting yourself big on the flyer? And they do that.

Why are you making yourself like a real promoter? I said this on an Evo show. A real promoter does real business. on an Evo show. A real promoter does real business. He puts his name small on there. He's a production and he makes the fly

the way it's supposed to be. Now it's about you and everybody else is belittling you. Right. What do you try to do? You want to be a star? You're not talented

and this is where you're this is how you get your attention? Like that's not that's not the way business is. I done joints with Lee. He wants to shine. I done joints with Lee. He wants to shine.

I done joints with Lee. Mr. Lee. He's official for you. Come on. Official. No, no, no. You know what I'm saying? And that's what I'm saying.

Like, you have certain promoters that really want to do the business, and you have certain promoters that want to be in it for the wrong reasons, just like you have entertainers that want to be in it for the wrong reasons. They want to be with the bitches. They want to be cute.

I'm not going to say bitches Women I don't really call people Women bitches But they want to be with The cute shit They see But they don't see The hard work that goes into it

Right And that's where You test who's who That's when you see Who's who If they really If they able to sustain What they've been doing

For a certain amount of time And be comfortable with it And be willing to deal with The downfalls As well as the ups You know This business is a cutthroat business A lot of people are shitting

In this business You know what I'm saying You know That's why I don't ask Somebody for nothing Listen to my album I could have asked anybody To be to my album i could have asked anybody to be on my album i could have asked any man they would have heard a quarter of my album

and say yeah kid hell yeah because that's one of the very first things is when they see dj dj and then kick it pre but dj they always think oh it's gonna be features it's gonna be a dj it's gonna be a feature thing like my little south side Sheep compilation. No, this is serious. This is serious. And it makes rappers that have been doing this for a long year say, yeah, this nigga kid's serious.

It's not no joke. It's not no play. And I'm not. My beats are crazy. The bars is crazy. Everything is crazy. And I ain't ask no help. I asked for my daughter,

Lavelle, the R&B artist, and Mr. Lex, the reggae artist to be on it. And that's it. And 19 joints. 19 joints.

And we joined, baby. I got to go one more time. Not pretty good. All right. All right. That's the killer. So we've conquered it all. We've conquered Def Comedy Jam. We've done, you know, movies, TV shows. We've, you know, scored, worked with Madonna.

Jay-Z. Jay-Z, Met, Prince. Everybody. Everybody. What the fuck could be next for you? Well, I'm always trying to create opportunities For other people so I did this album

Hopefully First of all let me say this I don't have no machine behind me I'm independent I put it out myself I'm dependent on the music being As good enough to carry We doing what we do to make it happen. But, you know, like I said, I ain't asking no artist to be on this.

So it's just a thing I just felt like doing. But at the same time, I have other people that I'm working with and trying to create opportunities for them. And that's always been my thing. So with that being said, Sucker Free, the real estate, the new albums I got coming, the new stuff,

I'm always going to keep moving and keep going. I don't know what I'm going to end up with later because I'm nowhere near done.

You know what I'm saying? Like, some people being as good as 10 years and they done. I've been here 30 something years and moving

and my ear still is as sharp as it ever been. You know what I'm saying? You can hear it in the love album. So I'm just going to keep doing what I do and creating and just keep creating opportunities and just doing things and making sure that they know that I'm not just one thing. You know what I'm saying? I'm not just one thing.

I'm a triple threat. And at the end of the day, that's what it's about, being able to not let nobody stop you from just being what you want to be. You do what you want to do. You know, and it's been fortunate for me. I got God in my life. I respect my faith, and I appreciate the spirit. And that's first. That's what brings everything to home, because without that, none of this is possible. So that's why brings everything to to home because without that none of

this is possible so that's why I look at first and then everything else so I'm just gonna keep it going and what the next thing is who knows I mean right now I have the album out so the movie is coming and all this other stuff but right now I just want people to hear this album I want people to listen to it from beginning to end and feel it and understand that it's not just a record. It got two records on it. A lot of times, we get caught up in, we're going to have our one or two records. Help us to carry us.

Nah, we got a body of work here. So, love album is something that y'all should hear. Just so you know, you're in my movie. Really quick, what would be your advice to someone just getting started in this industry in terms of longevity? Because not everybody's going to have the longevity. There's not many people that could say they have the longevity you have. You got to be a leader. Be a leader.

Don't be a follower. Don't be a trendy dude. Set the trend. Don't be for the time. Be a leader, don't be a follower. Don't be a trend, a trendy dude. Set the trend. Don't be for the time, be timeless. You know, and even when, when you've been in the business as long as I have, you're going to have some down time too.

There's going to be some times where things look like it's getting a little shaky. The testament is how you keep it going. The testament is how you bounce back and keep moving. You got to keep in mind, my influence made DJs talk on the mic. My influence made DJs play records quick, look a certain way,

instead of you just looking like somebody behind somebody, looking homely. Now you look like a star. Kid Capri did that. You know what I'm saying? Let's not get it twisted in no kind of way. People would do things that make you think it started with them. Right.

Right? I'm not here to put in your face what I did and all that. I'm here to show you what the real is. But at the same time, would the DJ business have been the way it been had I not done what I did? You got to question that. Would there be a Khaled? Would there be a Clue? Would there be these different people that done what they did after the fact?

Had I not done what I did with the business? You know, shout to all of them. They all did great. But it started with me saying, let me sit on that street corner and sell these mixtapes no matter how anybody look at me Right, no matter how anybody fat girls driving by in cars fly chicks laughing at me Because I'm sitting on the street corner selling tapes like I'm soliciting I

Put 14 gold chains on my neck just to look like I'm doing good straight up Just to look like I'm doing good. Straight up. Because you're doing good, but they don't think you're doing good. They don't think I'm doing good. I'm soliciting. You got to actually show you're doing good. I got to show I'm doing good. So I throw the 14, you know, James, I sit a certain way, you know, and I'm thorough, so niggas, dudes ain't going to try me,

and they all know how I play. So that was another thing. But more than that, you know, Chick-C, see that it was like, it was like a game. Like it was funny. All right. Y'all go ahead and laugh now. Watch what happened. That following year, I was on television. That following year, I had an album. That following year, I was on the radio. Everything was bang because I took my pride and swallowed it and said, you know what? I'm not too big to sit on the street corner and try to keep it poppy. Where a what? I'm not too big to sit on the street corner and try to keep it poppin'.

Where a lot of dudes think they too big to do certain things. Nah, B. I do it this way and it's going to make me move. And that's what made me do every day. From there, I went to Def Comedy Jam. Comedians that nobody knew. We took those comedians. I went back to the beginning to those comedians. We made them big. Bernie Mac.

Boom, boom, boom. All these dudes became big. Gamer Platform. Came back to the internet. I was sitting on the internet playing on Periscope. I had 30 people on there. You looking at me saying, yo, this legend got 30 people on there.

This nigga fell off, B. No. My mindset was I'm going to go back to the mixtape sitting on the street corner where nobody knew me. Right.

And I'm going to make it grow. You know what I'm saying? And that's how it went. Because I'm not scared to go back to to make it grow. You know what I'm saying? And that's how it went. Because I'm not scared to go back to the beginning. You know what I'm saying? And that's how you stay relevant. You can't be scared to build again. Not as scared to build again to start over. You know what I'm saying? And that's how you stay relevant

when you don't do the same thing all the time. You're able to do other things. That's why doing this album, producing it, writing it, come on, as good as it is, we can't front on it You can say whatever you want. I don't care how old you are young you are You cannot say that love album is not no it's not into the me and beats in the hood over There's no way you can't say album is hot

So at the end of the day when you listen to you, you know, I stay in it. So that's what it's about man Just uh, take care your customers and love them what you do, man. You know? Damn, I feel like that's... I feel like that's... Holy moly, guacamole. You got anything else? Nah, let's go, man. I feel like this is it. Let me fill your champagne glass up, though. Come on.

Let's cheers to the legend, man. We're celebrating you, motherfucker. Cheers to the legend. You inspired all of us, brother. Yes. Thank you, man. Yo, I ain't going to lie. Thank you, man. I appreciate you, man. It's cheers to the legend, man. We're celebrating you, motherfucker. Cheers to the legend. You inspired all of us, brother. Yes. Thank you, man. I ain't going to lie. I know you.

Honestly, it's the last. I don't know if this is a question. It might be more of a statement. Kicker pre-tapes. And I know I said this to you, maybe off the record. And maybe that's kind of corny, so I should have said this to you on the record. At one point,

I used to wake up and get a kick of pre-tape as if that was me getting fly. Somebody said that to me. That was a part of my outfit. I can't be fly and then not have a kick of pre-tape

to go with it. Right. I know this shit doesn't make and did not have a kick and pre-take to go with it. I know this shit doesn't make sense to nobody that's young. No, you're right though. You know what I'm saying? Like, I had to have a buy-in number 17.

Right, you had to be like if I had to put Jackson's on or 1042 and I didn't have a take to go with it like you were kind of like because it's like

and we didn't have cars back to go with it. Like, you were kind of like... And we didn't have cars back then. So, like I said earlier, we would do OJs, the National Cabs, the Experience Cabs, the Queensbridge. And what we would do is we would get in and we'd fly. But you got to have volume 17. You got to have a certain tape

to make you feel a certain way. And my earliest, 17. You gotta have a certain tape to make you feel a certain way. My earliest and most beautifulest memory of going up town has always been King of Pre-Tapes. And I just want you to know, like, if you listen to the record I did with Jay-Z, the one I won the Grammy for, it's like that.

Right? If you listen to it, if you listen to it, but if you listen, like, if you listen to it, but if you listen, like, if you listen to this like that, that's what I was doing, mixtape shit on the record. Put your hands up, yeah, man, you know what I'm saying? It's Kickin' Pringin' Jay-Z. It was the same, it was a mixtape party feel. That's what I was on at the time, but that record wasn't supposed to have been that beat.

When I did the record with Jay, it was a different beat. It was something different. And we walking past, he was walking past the studio. The loop that I had that we did, I had that record for like five years. I brought it to New Orleans. But I never could get it to loop straight in the machine. So I had it looped on the tape just to listen to it. He was walking past the studio.

He heard me playing it in the studio. He said, yo, what's that? I said, it was some shit that I just had looped. He was like, yo, we need to do that. And five years I had this record, I couldn't get it fixed. And five minutes after he said that, I had that shit finished.

Wow. Right. I think this is the last shot then. Yeah, I want to say something real quick. And I'm going to say this, reiterating the last time you were here, but in case someone didn't watch the episode, in case you don't remember, I've always said that your career inspired me. Your tapes inspired me to make mixtapes.

I made my chops making mixtapes. If I didn't make mixtapes, I wouldn't be here right now. And you on Def Comedy Jam inspired the fuck out of me to the point where Def Comedy Jam came to Miami at James L. Knight Center. Yes, we did. And everybody after the show,

the comedians and Kid Capri stood out for me. I stood in line to meet Kid Capri. So I want to thank you, brother, and I want to tell you that I know it's not just me. You inspire so many motherfucking people out there.

Thank you, man. Thank you for that. I appreciate it. I need a laugh. I need a laugh. Thank you. You know, I'm going to stab money

and gas money. I spit on your ass. Let's take his last shot. Let's take his last shot. You can take a little one. I'll take a little one. Take it. You got to do it.

This is it, man. Kid, man, thank you so much, man, for being who you are, man. Thank you. I love y'all, man. Thank y'all for what y'all do, man. This is your platform always. Salute. I take a bow.

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