Drink Champs - Episode 316 w/ Juelz Santana

Episode Date: June 3, 2022

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the one and only Juelz Santana! Juelz shares his journey in hip hop as he talks about his come up, being part of the legendary group The Diplomats aka Dipset and more! Juelz also talks about serving time, releasing new music, the epic VERUZ battle between Dipset & The Lox and much more! Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!! Make some noise for Juelz Santana!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆   Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com  Follow Drink Champs: http://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps http://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps http://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps  DJ EFN http://www.crazyhood.com http://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy http://www.twitter.com/djefn http://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions  N.O.R.E. http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga http://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to Drink Champs, a production of the Black Effect and iHeartRadio. Drink Champs! Drink Champs! Drink Champs! and iHeartRadio. He's a Miami hip-hop pioneer What up, it's DJ EFN Together, they drink it up with some of the biggest players You know what I mean? In the most professional, unprofessional podcast And your number one source for drunk facts It's Drink Champs motherfucking podcast Where every day is New Year's Eve

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Yaffa Yawa Make some noise And me and EFN, we restarted this Not only did we say we wanted to respect legends But we want to respect people and show love and give flowers to people that we're personally fans of. I know this man has probably seen me say it publicly. He's probably seen me say it off camera. I'm a big Jewel Santana fan.

And when I don't have a mixtape, I don't have a record, I don't have something To listen to the homie I be upset Because I'm that much of a fan I see the error That he came through I see the error That he monkey foot Stomped through

From seeing him In violator offices From going there And the man is still here He took some time off Went away It wasn't college Far

Far from a college Far from a college That's what we told the kids though But that's what you gotta tell the kids Some time off went away. It wasn't college. Far. Far from a college. Far from a college. That's what we told the kids, though. But that's what you got to tell the kids. But the man is still out here. He got motherfucking his product all over the place. He can't feel his fucking face all over the place.

That made me mad. We got to do that all over. Hold on. So in case you don't know who we're talking about, we talking about the one, the only, Juarez motherfucker, Santana! Let's get it straight into the baby bag, because I'm going to tell you something.

I got a butt line, and it's called Super Thug OG. And I'm going to tell you about what happened with me. When I went into production, I had a little character, too. And they told me, don't do it because of the little kid shit. So I stayed away from it. How the hell did you get away from it? Oh, man. I just came up with the design.

I didn't physically come up with the design. We came up with the design, you know, the art team. And pretty much I loved it. You know what I'm saying? To make a long story short, it fit everything I was trying to do. You know what I mean? And the most part about it is the bud in there. I handpicked that.

You know what I mean? i went through so much gas just sitting there and i'm a smoker right right i come from an era and a long line of smokers like i really do this like right yeah i don't know if you know i didn't i'm saying like i really smoke like the type of dude that bought pounds in the crib to smoke you understand what i'm saying right two and three different to you know me always been like that you know i had my little setback my little federal so i couldn't really play around or do nothing, but I've been waiting, so now I just had to make it perfect,

so I wanted my joint to just be a little bit different. I wanted to know. I know when somebody open that bag, they can't tell me it ain't no gas in it. That's for one. And then the baby just took on a life of itself, you know what I'm saying? And it just is what it is, but for more, you know, we just trying to keep that gas in the bag, quality control, and, you know, let the baby go viral right now. is. But for more, you know, we're just trying to keep that gas in the bag, quality control,

and, you know, let the baby go viral right now. For me, you never know where the baby could go. Let me check the baby out. You know what I'm saying? Let me check the baby out. The bag is the hardest joint up right now, though. You know what I'm saying? The baby look a little crazy.

I can't feel my face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He can't feel his face. Now, let's be clear. In Miami, what you say? Might make him an NFT. Yeah, that's hard. So many't feel his face. Now, let's be clear. In Miami, we're going to say... Might make him an NFT. Yeah, that makes sense. Might do a whole run.

How they got the... What they got, the board apes? Like the apes and all? We're going to have to do the whole baby line with the NF. We're going to do so much with the baby. You know what I mean? We're going to take it mainstream. I got a couple of friends in Miami, though.

When they say they can't feel their face, they talking about the yayo. Yeah, you know, but we don't really... You know what I'm saying, that ain't my drug of choice. Make some noise for you declaring that. That ain't my drug of choice. Listen, our show is about celebration. We got the Ace of Spades. Let me cut you off, this is that you not smoking like this. This is that designer pack.

Let me get that designer pack. That power pack. Not rapper weed. That expo- Not rapper weed, because now they be having- No, this that designer pack. That power pack. Not rapper weed. That expo- Not rapper weed, because now they be having- Nah, this that designer pack. Right, right, right.

That's what we call power pack. You know what I mean? Right, right, right, right. You're not smoking like this pack. Right, right, right, right. You know what I'm saying? So whatever you else is, you're not smoking like- You got this, you're not smoking like this.

You know what I'm saying? Okay, okay. That's how we doing it. Yeah. You make the noise around here. You make the noise around here. So listen, man. We set up, what kind of champagne you like, man?

I'm going to do, I'm going to do Ace, I'm going to do a Rose. You're going to do a Rose? I like the color. You're going to give me your own bottle, too, sir. Oh, man, I appreciate that. You know what I'm saying? Your own bottle. It's like a Grammy Award right now, you know what I'm saying?

I'm going to go gold. I'm going to join you, but I'm going to go gold. Honestly, I don't think I've ever had one of these. You told me N-O-R-E put you on? You put me on this right now. I know about it, but I ain't going to front. Are we just going to do this right now? We're going to have some fun, baby.

Because this is what our show is about, Jewels. And I'm going to be honest, bro. I'm really, really a big fan of Jewels. I followed you from the beginning of your career. I appreciate it. Because when Cam, you know, kind of like, I don't want to say discovered you because I don't remember that moment. But when he was kind of pushing you, you know what I'm saying? Like, I got to see the beginning, I got to see your growth,

I got to see you to where you're at this very spot. So when I say things like that, like, yo, you know, Jewelz, I be missing a lot of the music. Is that a process? So the fans that don't know, when you don't drop music, let them know what's that process like. Because we know you just came i just don't drop music no i don't mean to say because that's that's not how it is you know for me it's so many things that come with the music and you know i i don't do a lot of interviews because i hate talking about

to me because it's always like yo you know you know, you always tell us this or you say that. I don't want to be that person that's always complaining always. I stop myself. Any way that I'm not supposed to be in my career,

I put full blame on myself. You dig what I'm saying? I'm not the one that's going to sit up here. Of course, I got stories of things

that happened and may have, you know, but at the end of the day, I put all blame on myself. For me not putting on music, it's like I'm always waiting for that perfect time, Nori, and it's never really a perfect time. It's never going to be perfect.

It's never going to be perfect either. It's never a perfect time. I'm going to help you open another bottle, sir. Yeah, you can do that. I appreciate that, man. I'll be honest with you. Because this is drink chance, you're going to be a drunk. Okay, okay.

Let's do it. On top of that, being a perfectionist, always waiting for the right time. It's been seeming like every time I'm getting the energy to go hard and wanting to, I always get something that's like a hurdle that gets in my way. It discourages me, man. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, that's no excuse. Like I said, that's why I don't put that on nobody. I blame myself for whatever it is.

And I take full responsibility for where I am and where I'm not in my career you dig what I'm saying the whole thing for me is it just you know anybody still loves you else you know making music and jumping on that mic is like riding a bike for me it's easy it's effortless I'm saying you know I still got life in me you know I still got people wanting to hear you else so while I still got that energy you you know, right now I just jumped on the remix with Jim, so that was like a, you know what I mean? We set the trends. We set the trends, so, you know, it kind of got the ball rolling, so now I'm going to

start putting out music, and I just ain't going to let up from here, you know what I mean? All I can do is move forward and push, I can't really complain and cry over spilled milk, you know what I mean? But, like I said, I don't blame nobody for my shortcomings. You dig what I'm saying? But you know, as an artist,

as an ex-artist, yeah. Poor, poor. Okay, okay, I got you. But as an ex-artist, I see what you're doing and I see what you're doing and I see where you're going

with this. But I'm going to follow you and leave. As an ex-artist, let me just tell you something. I remember at Spirx where I would go six months to a year and a half without putting out music and it would be rough for me

Let's be clear. Let's be clear not putting out music and not recording music Yes, let me enjoy anybody, you know, I have my own studio I have a right tons of hard jobs full of music I'm saying and like I hate saying that cuz then people like we'll just put it out I know I'm gonna figure it out with what I'm saying? And like, I hate saying that because then people are like, well, just put it out. I know. I'm going to figure it out. I'm going to do this for the fans. I'm going to put it out and I'm going to go.

I don't want people to think it's me being lazy. Are you being a perfectionist? I want to bootleg myself. It's not me. It's never me being lazy. I'm constantly working. Like I said,

I'm just always waiting for moments that, you know, they're not just there. And nowadays, it's just about, just put out the music. I've come to that point, you know, I've had enough people tell me, Joel, just put out the music. I've come to that point.

I've had enough people tell me, Joel, just put out the music. People want to hear you. They love you. Just go. Don't wait for no moment. So that's where I'm at with it now. You know what I'm saying?

Right now, it's just about me moving forward and just putting out the music and doing what I know I'm capable of. It's always room for a nigga like me. You know what I'm saying? Come on now, I'm too fly. Talk that shit. I'm too fly that means yeah I don't need it to let me talk my god they need the juice to

even get sparked up it's like you know I'm a Harlem. It's naturally run through my blood, run through my veins. You know what I'm saying? The point I was trying to make is a lot of people, when they take that year off or that year, and when I say year off, like you said, it's not about recording it. It's about throwing it out. You know what I'm saying? And I'm sorry. A lot of people, you know, they become hurt, you know, they become, you know, they don't become themselves.

Like, you still running around in Fannels. You still running around in Roses. You still running around. Like, how do you make back trucks? You know what I'm saying? You know, how do you maintain that? Because everybody can't do that, Juelz. God.

I'm going to put that on God. I think it's overall me being a good dude. There's no bad stories I don't think you can hear about Juelz out there. You know what I'm saying? Despite the music part and he don't put out enough music and he don't be consistent enough,

we hear stories about Juelz and it's not too many bad stories and if you do, the source, they probably won't say it in my face or it's not, you know what I'm saying? You're a good nigga.

I've always been a good dude to a lot of people. I've always overextended my hand. I've always helped people that didn't good nigga. I've always been a good dude to a lot of people. I've always overextended my hand. I've always helped people that didn't help me. I've always did more for people. Majority of the people that came into my life left better than they came. So you can't really say nothing. And for me, I can't say the same.

You understand what I'm saying? This goes for a lot of y'all dudes. Y'all know who y'all are. They blame me for their shortcomings. I see a lot of these dudes out here, you know was on a team and just you know i was a dude when you couldn't go to cam in the gym like jewels you could always go to i was the one like always giving out the rope and niggas always hanging they self and i'm still giving them rope giving them rope giving them rope niggas still hanging they self but blame me right i ain't get on this show and blame nobody for shit right you

understand what i'm saying but niggas ain't men niggas ain't real n this show and blame nobody for shit. You understand what I'm saying? But niggas ain't men. Niggas ain't real niggas. And that's why I say niggas can never be me. And there's always going to be room for a nigga like me. You understand what I'm saying? Because these niggas is weird. You know what I'm saying?

And I'm just always going to be that nigga. You know what I'm saying? And God got me answered to your question. Like I said, God, I've always managed to be blessed. Yes, like, come on, man. I did 27 months in jail. Crazy. Like you said, I'm home've always managed to be blessed. Yes, like, come on, man. I did 27 months in jail. Crazy. Like you said, I'm home.

I'm in a Maybach. That's right. You understand what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. Ain't nobody like, yeah, man, I don't know you. I don't know because a couple niggas said they sent shit to my books. My books is one thing. You know what I'm saying?

That's eat. That's commissary. That's been good. Just in case, niggas, but I appreciate that. Right. But ain't nobody reach out to my family, ask me how my bills was getting paid That's been good. Just in case, niggas, but I appreciate that. But ain't nobody reach out to my family, ask me how my bills was getting paid for them 27 months. I did that. Wow.

That's real. You understand what I'm saying? Niggas talk about you ass all they want. 27 months, still came home. Niggas still good, still looking good out this motherfucker. Drinking Ace of Spades, Jose? Niggas can't say nothing to me, niggas. You know what I'm saying? Niggas can't say nothing to this motherfucker That's right just keep what all y'all niggas could do is keep wondering how right that's all just keep wondering how God got me I'm gonna be good. I'm blessed like I said new music on the way. I ain't gonna pop it

I show it when I'm saying even being we could you ask me anything It's a lot shit going on When I was in jail Even downtown They were saying my crib got foreclosed And this is why I was in jail Now at the worst point of my time Niggas want to kick me while I'm down And say my crib getting foreclosed

Let's speak on that First of all my crib wasn't getting foreclosed So this is the deal You The owner of a crib I rent the crib from you directly getting foreclosed. So this is the deal, right, Nori? You, the owner of a crib. I rent the crib from you directly, right? I'm paying you the money. Let's make it this

nigga. I feel like whatever it is going to be is going to be fast. I'm paying you the money. Make a long story short, you're not paying the mortgage. So the house that I'm living in gets up for foreclosure. Okay, I remember when you was on parole

or something like that. No, I was locked up when this happened. I'm going to speak on anything. Just in case you may feel like I don't want to do that with you. We're going to fuck that. We're going to talk about it. Let's do it.

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Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. But make a long story short, yeah, they said that, but that wasn't even the case. Like I said, and you know, whoever believe whatever want to believe it, I'm going to tell it to you like it is. Okay. I was paying a dude. He wasn't paying his bills, mortgage.

The house went up for foreclosure. I wound up getting a beautiful end of the stick because look, now I'm in this crib, right? Well, my wife is in this crib because I'm locked up for six to seven months. Not paying no rent because now I got proof that I was paying up for six to seven months. Not paying no rent, cause now I got proof that I was paying you, and you wasn't paying. So now the court is like, you the problem, not you else. Even though it's in the public, they try to make it seem like I was doing something cool.

I'm living here rent free with my wife the whole time I was locked up. Now they want us out the crib. The bank is, I mean the judge is like, well they don't really have to leave. Y'all compensate them for leaving. So on top of that, the bank gave my wife $70,000 to get out the house.

She lived in that house for six months, rent free while I was alive. So that's why I say God got me. It's little things like that, you know what I'm saying, that just panned out. You need to clap up for that. You need to clap up for that. I'm just saying clap up for that. I didn't clap up for that. I didn't clap up for that. I didn't clap up for that. For real.

I'm just saying a little shit like that. Like I said, just manage to always be just good. Like I said, I was blessed. Cam took me to the world. I was fortunate enough to make some good decisions. Of course I ran through the money. I came in the game when I was real young. You know that, Norby.

So I was able to lose fuck up money, of course, go broke, get money again, do that two or three times already, I'm damn the money. I came in the game when I was real young. You know that, Norby. So I was able to lose fuck up money, of course, go broke, get money again, do that two or three times already. I'm damn near four. I'm not going to lie. I love it.

I'm on the edge of 40. Like, I'm skating. I'm literally skating. You know what I'm saying? So I've been in this 20 plus years, Norby. You know how this shit go. Hell yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Congrats. Congrats on that. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, I've just been blessed. I made some good decisions. A lot of wrong decisions, but I made some good decisions.

And like I said, I managed to be all right. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Shout out. Go ahead. Man, I keep calling you. Shout out to Lil Wayne, though. Lil Wayne is definitely somebody that did, you know, make a move.

You know what I mean? That unexpected move. I would never say unexpected because he's always there. You know what I mean? That unexpected move. Not even, I would never say unexpected because he's always there. You know what I'm saying? He's always been my brother, but I'm just going to say shout out to Lil Wayne because he never wants praise or wants nothing,

so that's my brother. That's loving. That's that. No, beautiful shit. And let me just say something, right? This was something like that I see in the hood a lot. A lot of times a person will be in the hood and be like all they have a relationship and a person won't offer that person They just feel like yo you this guy's well off this guy's done as you think it was that something that happened like I

Mean people people want to talk talking is talking is what people do No sense. I'm never really worried about that. You know, I've had people talk about so many different things, whether it was good or bad, and that don't really bother me. I mean, it is what it is. Like,

people won't say when you up, people won't find something to say. You know what I'm saying? When you all the way up, when you're on top of the mountain,

when you're on bottom, it just seems more like, you know, easier for them to get away with it. Right. You know what I mean, it just seems more like, you know, easier for them to get away with it, you know what I mean, so to speak. But, you know, they got a job to do, we got a job to do. Haters and whack niggas got a job to

be them, and real cool fly niggas got a job to just be who we gonna be. I remember Dipset seeming inseparable, right? Yeah. I remember you doing your thing, Cam doing his thing. And then at one point, like when you got locked up, there was a record that came out.

A certain record that came out. Jewel's Santana. Rambi once said, this is the first King in the Army with Dipset. This is the first time we felt like it was a record that you made that was in jail In jail, yeah, that's what that was the rumor was right? That was the first time I believe I've seen it on You know a couple of websites it was you just went blogging. I didn't I didn't make it in jail No, I am gonna say that I didn't make that in jail. Okay, so I made it prior to jail. Okay. Yes. So did you admit

like you did have a problem at one point? Who? With Killer? Me and Killer? Come on, man. Me and Killer are brothers. What the fuck you mean

if we ever had a problem? You and Capone ever had a problem? You and Capone ever had a problem? To this day, nigga. To this day. You know what I'm saying?

Like, come on. Right now, me and Killer are in a great space, but if you're asking me, so yes, we've always been ups and downs. We're brothers. We're always going to have things, but the best part about it is our relationship.

We've always managed to sort it out and get to a good place. And that's what I love about us. You know what I'm saying? Me and Cam and just us as the whole diplomats. Like, look, you know, Cam and Jim didn't speak since the verses, right? But then just the other day, Cam had a show at the Apollo. Yes. Me, Jim and Cam was there.

Fire. And I feel like I rehearsed this time. Just even though it didn't look like I rehearsed this time. It looked like y'all. I mean. It didn't look like I rehearsed this verse. I'm sorry. I don't know if putting it like this,

I don't want to say this because it's like, it may sound weird, but it was almost like, I can't say this on, like, no, I don't want to say this, because it's like, it may sound weird, but it was almost like, I can't say this, like, no, I don't want to put this, the way I'm saying it sounds weird, right? But it was almost like, no, I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that.

It was almost like makeup, like makeup. Makeup sex? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. What I'm saying is, it's almost like, you know how they didn't see, they didn't see it. Exactly. What did you say, an Apollo? Exactly.

It was like a make-up, that's what I meant to say, like a make-up fight. I can see that. Why you said sex? No, because that's good, too. It's good, too. They both good. They both good. I know.

You know why? I know. You know why? You didn't see what I did? I had to throw that on you. No, But you know why? I know. You know why? You didn't see what I did. I had to throw that out. You didn't. No, but you know why? You know why?

Because I know all of y'all together. I know y'all individually. And I love just seeing y'all camaraderie. That's the word I'm using. When y'all three together, it's just like, damn, this is Voltron. Yeah, yeah. You understand what I'm saying? Don't get me wrong.

Y'all powerful entities by yourselves. Yeah, for sure. And y'all can. Yeah powerful entities by yourself. Yeah, for sure I'll hold it down by yourself. Sure. That's that's why the versus battle was was Um, how can I say it was interested? But the difference between what it was was it felt like the locks has been Like rehearsing that same exact show Forever As opposed to you know You brothers And I know all y'all like for real

And that's what you got You're exactly right and I think you said it right And to speak on that night I think we're getting to what was your take You want to just say what was my take on that night Yes please So my take on that night was Kind of like what you said My take on that night yes please so my take on that night was kind of like what you said my take on

that night was they are a better group than us because i won't say i bet no no no no let me let me word this right so y'all understand me because the blogs are crazy they are a group right as a group we are not a group we are individual artists that came together as a collective to form What we form which is called dip set They came in this game as locks as if they performed as a group like when I say that is me cam Don't have we have records together great records together But we don't have those back-to-back records like Styles P and Jada because they were a group they were all Came out yeah back-to-back records like Styles, P and J, because they were a group. They were all, they were a group. Cam was supposed to call me for Bad From TV, but it came out.

Yeah. Cam was supposed to call me, yeah. That's why, and then they did it. I said, fuck. Records like that, though, I had no, I had no, I had no, you know, real say-so kind of like on those with Cam this year, you know, because that's his record. You know what I mean? I just throw my little insights on. But, so like, like I said, I think we had bigger records.

I think our records were better. Right. You know what I'm saying? But I think they outperformed us that night. Okay, so so I think that's what I mean when I say They like a better group Dave Dave. They've done that as a group more often than we have right? You understand what I'm saying? We are more individual artists that when we get together is strong But they've been strong as as as a group before they before they separated and became individual artists We became individual artists and if that makes sense Me upon and this is real talk expo. I'm used to fight and go on stage right after and

It will make us better That's what I said. That's why I said you asked me why that show at the apollo was good because it was like him and jim didn't see each other for so long now it's like so the energy is like everybody's showing and damn i feel good to be back on stage with my brother everything just falls into place compared to as you know you talk you're kind of like everything's good now you just see each other you take things you know perfect You take things for granted. Real talk. That's what happens. Real talk. And I think that's the best way to put it.

And more than anything, we getting older and we got to stop taking things for granted, man. Because tomorrow is not promised. You know what I'm saying? And I think this is for us to just come up with that analysis out of that conversation. Y'all on the LL show, right? Rock the Bells. Rock the Bells coming up. Yeah, that's

gonna be crazy for my shit oh yeah yeah it ain't no freestyle no more my nigga I'm like yeah we getting the SIRR with the mirrors but you be looking at yourself shout out shout out shout out to the lock shout out to Jada I mean we could do it again any given Sunday they know that'd be crazy would you want to do a versus one-on-one? Listen, man, I'm Joel Santana. I'm going to stand my own against anybody. So you ain't got to sit there

and say who, or it doesn't matter. If I'm put in a ring with anybody, I'm going to become whatever animal I need to become to win that match or come out a survivor

or you know what I'm saying? So that's what it is let me yeah I know me I know what I do I know what I'm capable of and you know I'm coming you know how I'm coming yes yes who would you want about it if you had your choice um I don't know man I would let the fans kind of like put it out there. I would rather the fans do it. Come on, the fans is here. You know what I'm saying? The fans is here.

Who do y'all think? Yeah, because for me, it's nobody that, I don't want to like just say a name. I think a lot of people want to see certain things. Maybe somebody that they put in my categories, I don't really know. Like, you know what I'm saying? I don't know.

I don't know. T Like, you know what I'm saying? I don't know. I don't know. T.I.? T.I.? Nah. Y'all niggas ain't feeling it. All right. I see y'all faces. I think, no, don't get it twisted.

T.I. is crazy. Right. So I'm not saying, I just think, I think for people who want to see me go with somebody like a New York, like a Lloyd Banks or somebody. Ooh, yeah. If they, you know what I'm saying? And that's not, like I said, that's not me saying that Lloyd Banks or somebody. If they, you know what I'm saying? And that's not, like I said, that's not me saying that.

Banks is my brother, you know what I'm saying? But we haven't, I don't know, I ain't gonna say, I fuck with Banks, I mean, we am at a, had a up and down a little iffy. No, I don't remember that. With Beamer Benson Bentley, after Beamer Benson Bentley? You ain't been talking lately, Jewel. Nah, you know what it is?

You gotta come outside, you outside now. Since you've been on the? Since you've been on See the first my first intentions to save my brother, right? Yes I gotta look at me I'm saying like he's my brother me and banks that got cool Do my man slow from Queens? Slow box. Yeah do Queens. I'm saying we formed a real good relationship Let me and incident had took place at Summer Jams. Everybody know the incident that took place at Summer Jams.

I did feel a way, personally, because I looked at it like... I didn't really understand Banks' position at the time. You're talking about the slow box incident? Yeah, the slow box incident that happened at... at anybody else as far as the other people I kind of knew because I knew it was things stemming and things you know brewing or whatever so that's whatever I mean they from Queens they got the issues but me and me and banks had a relationship and I had met banks to do slow so I just didn't understand damn how you were standing it's a lot of inside things I knew

about them and you know things that were said to me from both parties you know what I'm saying that's like I said that's they thing but for that to happen and it's like I'm looking like damn like bro it's weird I've learned that so you know me and Banks

had spoke since then we put I called them after that you know me and I called Banks spoke since then. We put, I called him after that. You know what I mean? I called Banks. I was like, yo, that's crazy. Wow. That's all I really say. You know, he kind of spoke like, you know what I mean?

I ain't know that was slow or whatever. You know what I mean? Whatever. And that was that. So, but I still look at Banks like, you know what I'm saying? I got some sort of love for Banks. And I mean, you know what I mean? Hopefully we have our conversation in the near future.

Yeah. And. Because it sounds like that was both loyal. make another Bima Benz and Bentley, something, you know what I mean? Classic record. City always asking for that. Classic record. Yeah. Classic record, let's make some noise for that, man.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's talk about your relationship with Chris Brown. You, he was his first feature, correct? I thought so, but then Bow Wow came and said he did Run It before me. I never heard of y'all. Yo, the niggas. Yo. I got straight to it.

I thought so. Shout out to Bow Wow. You know what I'm saying? I think the diversions joined in. And the niggas, we played play run it and I'm like I Had to I was so baffled that I had to I had to go on the comments and put like the little face like Almost like I can't feel my face Like I ain't never hear that well, I know is when the record was brought to me

I mean Chris Brown and Tina Davis came to my studio. Let me shout out to her too They came to my studio. Tina Davis, yes. To me, shout out to her too. They came to my studio. Chris was real young. He's like, yo, we need to get on this record. It's not really doing what we want it to do at radio, but we know if we get somebody like you and Chris really want you on the record, he loves you. Are you trying to say you saved Chris Brown?

Are you trying? That's what it sounds like to me. I'm just being honest. I mean, I ain't saying I saved the boy. The boy has natural- Yes, of course. God given he was going to be- But at that time he needed that look. He needed that check it out.

The stars was aligned and I definitely added that spice, that sauce, that drip, that swag to that running record. And I'm saying it made it to record that you know it to be now. But Chris is a legend and I will never take nothing away. We ain't taking nothing away but we giving you what you be now, but Chris is a legend and I can never take nothing away. No, we ain't taking nothing away, but we giving you what you deserve, you got that? That's a death. Goddamn! We ain't taking nothing away! It's a death!

It's a death! Goddamn! It's a death! Because one thing our show is about is giving flowers. And right now, we would like to give you your personal flowers. Jewel says, Hila, because you deserve it. Hila, this is real.

Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Real talk. Oh, wow. Thank you. Thank you. Real talk. Them flowers last forever.

Forever. Like your bank account. What's the line? Let's do it. Bank account last forever. Flowers last forever. You know, guys like us rarely get gifts. You know what I'm saying?

They think we got everything. So this is very appreciated. It's the thought that counts behind this. It's dope. You know what I'm saying? You got the flowers. I'm going to hang this up like this. This is a Grammy. This is a Grammy, y'all. It's the thought that counts behind this is don't when I'm saying no, it's love. I'ma hang this up like this This is a grand. This is a grab No since I'm gonna take my

Yes, yes My brother say she was at one point I Know we was driving it earlier wedding. point, I know we was describing it earlier. I know we was describing it earlier. But at one point, you know, Cam had his run. I had my run. I think Fab run is going down. Everyone, like, not down.

Let me not say that because then you've got to remember how we were and shit over here. Fab is, and out the blue, you all, Santana come. You hold down the whole city. Hit a deal. What was it? Deal direct with Def Jam and then Dame came in and hated it a little bit. How was that?

How'd that work? No, no. My deal was direct with Cam. Okay. So, you know, I don't know if you, I was signed to Cam and

Cam had signed me to Def Jam. Dame and them had what they call first writers refusal because Cam was signed. First writers refusal. Cam's deal. Yeah. Right. But they had to match what they was giving us at Def Jam and

you know what I mean? Cam just got it to the point to where it's like they couldn't really match Jam. You know what I mean? Cam just got it to the point to where it's like, they couldn't really match it. You know what I mean? When it came to what Def Jam was trying to do. You know, Dane was his man, so Cam was like, come on, you're Harlem. You already know this play. My man got more money over here, so you mean you're

going to tell me you're going to stop another Harlem? And of course, Dane didn't do that. You know what I'm saying? So I was wound up straight on Def Jam, signed through Cam. And that was the move. You know what I mean? And you know what we did.

And then you started the most controversial line arguably in hip-hop history. I got that. One time for Cam, for taking over the rock. It was a foul line as well. Let's just be clear. I got that. One time for Cam to take it over the rock. Yeah. It was a foul line as well. My year. Let's just be clear.

Let's be clear. Everyone is cool now. But let's just be clear. That might have hit the rocker. That might have hit the rocker. Hold on. From the outside, I'm looking in. Look, from the outside, I'm looking in.

My nephew is a big fan. I know. I know. I'm being honest. I'm being honest. From the outside, he put it all in. My nephew is a big, thick-set fan. I know, I know. I'm being honest. From the outside, I'm looking in. That one line might have caused so much controversy because two things. Two of the three CEOs wasn't supposed to co-sign that.

They were supposed to say, that line is a little too far. Yeah, but I think... Hold on, hold on. Let me tell you why I didn't answer. The fact that they didn't say, chill, that line

is a little too far and they let it go. It sent waves through all the state property. Through groups like Christian and groups, the other people and they were just like,

wow, that's what they thought that's what I and did cam whether he became the president or not that between that line and that announcement it was it was ugly chap was the rockers I mean I see I see I see how you could say that looking outside of looking in I mean me it was like i just looked at it as a dope line i didn't really mean say it's kind of controversy like i thought you did but in a sense i did look at it as a true line but i looked at it from a sense that we came over there and we handled business cam made sure cam ran that shit like a real company. You know what I'm saying?

A real business, a real boot camp too. Damn near. You know what I'm saying? Like, we went over there and it was a lot of, you know, things going on. You know what I'm saying? And basically, people weren't taking advantage of the situation that they were in. So, Cam made sure that we did and we made sure that we did being over there. So that's why I said,

thank Cam for taking over the rock. Because we went over there, and we, as soon as we came over there, we dropped, oh boy, we dropped Hey Ma. Then Jewel Santana came. I mean, look, did we not? Did we not? You starting some shit right now.

Did we not? Go ahead, Jewel. Go ahead. As I said, I don't mean it in maybe a way some of them may be taking it like maybe the Memphis Bleak like we took over the rock. Nah, y'all Rockefeller, Jay-Z, that's niggas' egos. You don't want Badum and Bleak in verses. You said what? You don't want me and Bleak in verses.

I don't think he want that. That's not even the... I don't think he want that. I ain't even want to say that. He don't want what he want. The people don't want that matter of fact you have that one. I don't want that one. Keep that one Let's keep it going Let's be good I ain't taking none away from him either, but you know me I just put myself. I just put myself. All right I put myself up there. I put myself over. You can't put me with him. That's just it.

Absolutely. As far as protégés and shit like that. I mean, you know, I ain't. Nigga may say something about, you know, Jarrell's ain't go as far as he's supposed to. You know what I mean? Because I'm really supposed to be like, well, you know, Dwayne is that.

Yeah, but I can't. I can't say he. You know what I mean? Who? I can't. I can't put him. I can't put him next to me. To my bleep?

Yeah. Okay. Good dude, though. Yeah, great dude. Great man. It's my man. It's my man. But, so, boom.

Dwells. What make you say, you know what? I'm going to fuck with all the hip-hop. Some good money. Okay, nigga. I'm okay, nigga. Yeah, nigga.. Some good money. Okay, nigga. Yeah, nigga, tell her. I'm okay, nigga. Yeah, nigga.

It's good money. I'm saying that. I don't like it with me. I ain't gonna lie to you. The money is good. On top of that, you know, I did it for a couple different reasons. You know what I mean?

My wife, for one. I'm always wanting to support her. And you mean... And you really married? Married, married? Oh, 100%. Okay. Let it ring on. Okay, that's what okay wedding ring on okay that's what I'm talking about I ain't cheating

yo y'all niggas ain't make noise for marriage fuck y'all come on you little shawls Jesus come on make some noise for the fuckers shout out to my wife shout out to my wife I haven't cheated in at least over five years you know what I mean like I'm talking about you know about me and my wife.

Of course, I was who I was when we first got together. I had to get to a point to where I got everything out of my seat. But she got me to that point. I realized I didn't want to lose her. She thugged it out with me. You know what I'm saying? I had to give her what she deserved. And ain't no cheating.

I don't even lobby around girls. I don't even be. It's like I could be around.. I don't even I don't know what I'm saying? Get away from me. I'm married. It's dope though because he's been on a little tour with me. He's been wanting to go everywhere, right? So you know what you gotta do? You gotta make the Redman mascot. Yo! What did I say earlier? I'm making a mask. But this is his first appearance on Drake Champs

so this is big for him. So I genuinely want to say thank you. Thank you. What's his name though? He got a name? That's Young Face right there. Young Face. That's Mr. I Can't Feel My Face. But you got to be clear, he's not a young nigga. He's 94.

Yeah, he's old. He's like. He's Joe Biden. He's an OG, baby. He's Joe Biden. You know what I'm saying? Joe Biden is Joe Biden, homie. He went to third grade with Joe Biden.

He's been getting high. He's been out here living his life. You hurt? Yeah, yeah. So, is it time for Quick Time with Slam already? Let's go. Okay, all right, cool. We don't know if you know who you are.

We got a game that we play. It's called Quick Time with Slam. If you be politically correct and pick both, you take a shot. If you don't and you want to just answer it like a real nigga, then you just answer it like that and you don't take no shot. I'm answering everything like a real nigga. Okay. There's certain things that are going to set you up on.

And now, what do you want? You want Japanese deli on or you want what kind of shot? I'm answering everything like a real nigga. Okay. Because I ain't going to throw no shots. There's three things we're going to set you up on. And now, what do you want? You want Japanese De Leon or you want, what kind of shot? I want whatever that ain't going to have me throwing up. Nothing's going to have you. This is all black on. You can have some of my Moana. Why you looking at me like that?

Go on. I'm going to let you choose. I'm going to let you choose. All right, all right. I'm going to drink some Japanese De Leon. Pop Daddy on this. Nah, nah. I'm going to stick with Ciroc. I'm going to stick with Ciroc.

Nah, I want Deleon. Fuck it. I want... What y'all want? What y'all want me to drink? Japanese? Nah, nah, I'm going to stick with Deleon. Ciroc?

I'm going to stick with Ciroc. I'm going to stick with Ciroc. Let me get the Ciroc. Let me get the regular. Regular live. Ciroc. Regular live. Yeah, regular live, baby. You know what I'm saying? This is the OG, homie. Let me get this a regular. Regular live. It's a rock. Regular live. Yeah, regular live, baby.

You know what I'm saying? This the OG, homie. That's what we call this. By the way, Jewels, we love you, man, just in case you don't know. This is your platform whenever we want to come and promote anything. Listen, Nori. Listen, man. You've been asking me to come up here for a minute.

Yes, because we love you. I wanted to come up here and have something to, you know what I mean? Like I said, you know, I just jumped on a gym record. You know, I just got my feet wet just to let people know. Because they always want new, new, new, new stuff. So at least they hear something from me. Right. New music is, I promise you, I'm stomping on it.

You're off papers now. I'm off papers, back outside. I'm doing what I need to do. I'm taking a shot for that. I'm taking a shot for that. Give me, give me a shot for that. I'm taking a shot back outside. I'm doing what I need to do. I mean, yeah. I'm taking a shot for that. I'm taking a shot for that. Give me one shot for that. I'm taking a shot for that. Jesus.

That's all. I mean, I don't pop it, I show it. Yes, yes, yes. You know what I'm saying? So that's all I'm gonna do. I'm gonna let the work speak for itself, just like I do with everything else. Like I said, just like I'm doing with this right here,

the work speak for itself. It ain't nobody that's gonna say, Juelz ain't got gas in that joint yes and we gonna smoke it too late okay we ready this is ready Nas or Snoop Dogg meaning but what whichever you got to say something that's like that's like saying weed Nas or Snoop that's like saying but what am I choosing like haze or hydro no but I saying but what am I choosing he's all hydro? No, but I'm saying what am I? It's so many different angles you could come from right You're already cheating. That's too easy. That's too easy. So I'm going to take a shot for that? We got to take a shot for being confusing already. Who?

What did you say? No, I'm saying I'm just trying to be clear if I just say Nas or what I'm being. It's usually whatever category you want it to be. So, yeah, overall, overall, like, yeah. Who is closer to your top five, Nas or Snoop? Nas. Nas, okay. We good with that?

Of course. We accept that answer. Biggie or Big L? Biggie. Uteng Clan or NWA? Ute. Like, Chris Brown or Usher? Chris Brown.

Rough Riders or Rockefeller? Take a shot? You take a shot. You can take a shot. You can take a shot. You can take a shot. Say it again. In the form of you,

in the time, take a shot. You're going to take a bad ride. You're from New York City, man. You're from New York City to say it again. He gonna take a minute. He from New York City, man. He from New York City. Say it again. Rockefeller or Rough Riders? He from New York City.

For the sake of New York City. Rockefeller or Rough Riders? They both from Harlem, too. They both got Harlem ticket shots. That's a good one, man, because it's like... Give me a shot glass, nigga. Take a shot. Come on, let's go.

I'm gonna go with Rough Riders. Fuck it. I'm gonna go with Rough Riders. He answered all of them. For the simple fact that all of our PDMX right now. Yes, let's go. I'm going to go with Rough Rider, fuck it. I'm going to go with Rough Rider for the simple fact that all of our P DMX right now. Yes, yes, yes, that's the P DMX. One time for DMX, man. And we're going to take a shot. Let me get your shot glass. And we're going to take a shot of Vags one time.

Ironically, oh shit, my bad, my bad, Juelz. I'm out of line. Let the people know, that's real liquor in there. People be thinking, we going so hard. Okay. Oh, shit. He took it fast. Okay.

Damn, nigga, hold on. Shit. Okay, just so you know, we did not have this set up. This is really the next question. Tupac or DMX? That was literally

the next question. We did not set it up. All right, I'm going to go with Tupac because I gave Rough Riders the last one. I respect that. So I'm going to go with Tupac. I gave Rough Riders the last one. I respect that. So I'm going to go with Tupac. Okay, this one might get personal for you.

Okay. It's all good. Dame Dash or Biggs? Yeah, Harlem says take the shot. Yeah, I'm going to just take the shot. Because you're going to get some type of phone call I got it I got it I gotta explain and means that I want to go into detail and what I'm need to say I'm just taking shot yeah yeah yeah take that shot come on god damn it this is to you G was gonna take it this

this this shows about you god damn it okay Queen Latifah or MC Lyte? Yeah, one of them going to snuff me. Queen Latifah. Yeah, Queen Latifah. I keep bringing them up. Prodigy or Big Pun? Big Pun.

This one gets a lot of people on the low. Fat Joe or Rick Post? They get a lot of them. Oh, you just skipped? I skipped? Yeah. My bad. Take over after this. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. Fat Joe, big pun to you. Take over and then go forward. Fat Joe or Rick Ross? Fat Joe or Rick Ross? Fat Joe or Rick Ross? This stumbles a lot of people, believe it or not. I'm gonna take a shot. Take a shot? You gotta take your other shot though, brother.

Fill me up. You babysitting. No, you good. That's your shot. Yeah, that's your shot. You really gotta fill you up. Yeah. Take the rest of that.

Salud, salute, salute. This is the Jewel motherfucker Santana. Make some noise for Jewel Santana. And the baby bag that can't fill his face. Got nerve. We are outside. You got the next one? Ooh.

Yeah. Trackmaster. Trackmaster. Yeah. And the baby bag that can't feel his face got there. We are outside. You got the next one? Yeah. Trackmasters or heatmakers?

Heatmakers. Okay. Of course. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Yes. New Jack City or paid in full? Wow. I ain't taking no more fucking shots.

That's what we not doing. We gonna figure this out. We ain't gonna remember. I love your style. I love your style. That's the way to get to it. You gonna figure this one out. Say that again.

It's New Jack City or Paid in Full? Paid in Full just cause of the Harlem. I mean, they both was in Harlem though. It's crazy, right? Yeah. Cool Moe D or Doug E. Fresh? Doug E. Fresh. Ooh.

Did you use a beatbox back in the days? I tried. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. That was good. That was pretty good. No, that was good. But we respected it, though.

We fought with you. Yeah. We fucked with you. Yeah. We fucked with you. Let you know that. Okay, this is great. Funk Master Flex or DJ Clue? Say that again? Funk Master Flex.

You know, we know. She got, she catching up. Funk Master Flex or DJ Clue? This is deep. For a New York artist, we got to keep this on New York artists. Oh, he's taking this. That's very political.

You got an album coming out. Very true. New music on the way. New York artist, we gotta keep this on New York artists. Oh, he's taking this very politically, you got an album coming out, very true. No music on the way! I'ma be honest. No music on the way! I'ma be honest. When it come to mix and it's from Flex and Clu, respect me for both of y'all, I love both of y'all.

When it comes to a mixtape. That's what I said, what you doing here is wrong, Nori. I'm running to DJ Clu. What you doing here is wrong though,i. I'm running to DJ Kool. What you're doing here is wrong, though. But the way you just stand and name, because it's always like, even like in a top five, not seriously, but I'm going to take my shot. We watch you, sir. But listen, right?

You got to kind of like, it's just like when they say Biggie or Pac there, but it's like, I think Biggie was hotter and better than Pac, but I think Pac was more legendary and more like, you know what I mean? I feel you, let's take a shot for that. I feel you. I'm with you, man. I'm with you.

With everything you just said, co-star and that, I'm with you. Here, let me take a dab for you. Did we answer that one? No, I just want to say something. But when Flex is in a party, this is real talk, when Funkmaster Flex is in a party, this is real talk. When Funkmaster Flex is in a party.

I don't drink, man. This guy is bugging up right now. Why do we even take that shot? We just took it with Jewel Santana. We love you, El Santana. Yeah, but no one can fuck with Funkmaster. When he get into that zone, I can't lie to you. When he get into that zone,

all right, cool. We're going to talk about you influencing Wayne and everybody. Jesus. I lost my train of thought. Okay, Bing, hit me back here. Ooh. A$AP Rocky or Dave East? I skipped a couple.

Yeah, you jumped. I just went straight to Harlem. That's fine. I just wanted to go straight to Harlem. A$AP Rocky or Dave East? Dave East. They both be a lot of chicks. Used to because A$AP Rocky.

I'm going to go with Dave East, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to go with Dave East for the right now factor. Right. Fuck with Rocky, though. Right. Fuck with Rocky. You've been in the gym with Dave East and Jim and them niggas. The niggas is going a little crazy.

Yeah, they're going hard. They got to downgrade their outfits, though. Come on. You said they what? They got to downgrade their outfits. They're going too fling or too high. Yo, nigga, I had to hit Jim one day. I said, nigga, this is what I'm wearing right now.

I ain't going to fuck with you. If you hit the gym with it. I can't said nigga. This is what I'm wearing right now With the outfit you in the gym with right now, this is horrible., so um I forgot where we went Davies remember Davies, okay OBB or Biz Markie I'm bouncing around DB you met old DB obviously right definitely Which quarter are AZ Rich Porter or AZ? Rich Porter. A little Rich Porter. Black Rob or Loon?

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Yes, I do. Paid meals. How truly focused. You know what I mean? You know, some people, they, you know, they, it's like, they don't really look like he. and the message he's putting out there. Yes, I do. Paid meals. How truly focused. You know what I mean? Some people, they don't really look like he. You can't fake it as hard as he's going. Some people come home, and once they make parole,

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Boys in the hood or men's society. Dang. I would take a shot, but I'm going to just say Boyz n the Hood. It's like, not a show. Q-tip or Lars Probe, producer-wise? Large. You did not expect that. I did not expect that. Because I know.

Yo, with Juelz and the Lars Probe beat, I just... That would be crazy. Because I know. If you don't know... Is this the Dream Champs album? Yo, it's easy to say Q-tip if you don't know. When you know, that's the difference. I know.

I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. Because I know. If you don't know, it's easy to say Q-Tip if you don't know. When you know, that's the difference. I know. I'm hip-hop for real. Yes. I was hip-hop before I came in the game. I was selling CDs on 125th Street in the Mark 125.

Really? Yes. You know the Mark 125 on 125th Street? There was a CD store in there. I had a little job working for a dude. He's a Muslim dude too. He had a CD store and I used to sell CDs out of there. I used to sell CDs to my man Luca Brasi on 125th Street.

Out the van. At Copeland's? Yeah. At Copeland's? At Copeland's? Pick up the gumbo. Don't be a dumbo. We used to move a lot of other stuff.

Get the gumbo. That wasn't the other. I got all tied down. It was a lot of other stuff that was. to move a lot of other stuff. That wasn't the other. It was a lot of other stuff that was, you know, you push your lead through the circle, but, you know, he was over there, man. He was over there. On 45th and Broadway.

Yes, yes. Holy moly guacamole. This is a beautiful episode, by the way. Jada Kiss or Mace? Um. Yeah. Kiss or mace? Jada. Y'all thought I was gonna go with mace cause I didn't know.

Jada kiss, man, come on. It's not even a question. Let's be clear, I seen mace perform in the other game. But it's not even a question. It's almost like saying, He had on a Hawaiian suit. His music came out and the whole crowd kept singing his shit. I said, holy shit.

Did y'all see that? I'm the only nigga that saw that. Yeah. No? No, yeah. It's a festival he just did. It's a festival. He just did it.

He killed it. His mic went out and he kept going. He's like, you know what I mean? He's still, you know what I mean? He's still. I think he did it better than that, though.

Turn behind your face, now behind your back. Never mind. I'm just saying that No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, This is my part. Let's go. Continue. He is on drink chat. Continue, continue. Yes, it's just, you know, it's really hard to put anybody against Jada, man. It just is what it is. But let's just be clear. When Cam and Mace went at it, who did you think won?

You said, who did I think won? Yeah, because I didn't expect Mace to come back like that. But they had a few times where they went at him. So now I'm trying to think of the specific time. The last one. Because it didn't go down after this one. When you had that done? Yeah. I was a little shocked.

How did you feel? And we'll record Cam came back at the Oracle again. Yeah, he came back a couple of times after that. They've been beefing so long. You know, for me being so close to that, it's like, I try to stay out there a while, it's like, you know what I mean? But, um, always Cam. Cam won.

Always Cam. That's awesome. And ain't even going, what I'm drinking to. To Cam Orton, nigga. Oh, to Cam, I'm bad, I'm bad, I'm bad. I'm on your team, nigga. I thought we had to. Man, he ain't never come to the drink chat, nigga.

Don't worry about it. I thought we had to drink when we didn't answer, nigga. I said, I'm bad. I'm bad, I'm bad, I'm bad. I'm on your team, nigga. I thought we had to drink when we didn't answer. Nigga, don't worry about it. I thought we had to drink when we didn't answer. I'm bad, I'm bad. I'm basically trying to get out of these goddamn drinks. My bad, my bad, my bad. Okay, this is very simple.

Okay, we're done after this. A couple of more questions. Scarface or Ice Cube? These are easy joints. Scarface. Podcast or radio? I'm going to go with podcast right now. Yeah, very smart. KRS or

Rakim? Rakim. Primo or Pete Rock? Primo. Just Blaze or Kanye? Kanye. Wayne or Drake? Wayne. Swiss or Timberland?

Swiss. Fab or Pusha? Fab. Drama or Khaled? Who? Drama or DJ Khaled? DJ Drama or DJ Khaled. I'm just asking, I'm sorry. Drama or DJ Khaled? Who? Drama or DJ Khaled. I'm just asking, I'm sorry. Drama or DJ Khaled?

Yeah. I just did it. We got the trends. No, no, I want to take a shot because, like I said, those are two different areas, so it's hard to say. Taking a shot. I respect that, too.

I'm going to go with Khaled. Go with Khaled? And I think... See, I said the trends just now. I just said the trends. You know with Khaled Go with Khaled I think I said the trends Just said the trends You know Khaled is proven You know what I mean

As far as Khaled Is going in his career I think he's proven To be You know what I mean Be above And All around the board

Bigger than Kind of like Every DJ When you talk about Full circle Khaled is You know what I mean Because this is big What you're saying right now You just said DJ Khaled is bigger than every no

That's no yes No, he is as a brand. He's bigger than every DJ. It's no DJ bigger than, you talking just for sure. Hip hop for sure. Hip hop for sure, but there's a couple of them. I'm saying something that's like, you can kind of like, but you know if they be like, who's the biggest artist? I might say, maybe Snoop. Like, how so named rappers? Like, Marshmello or something? You know like a Marshmello?

You don't know what I'm talking about? But that's a different genre. That's them techno. They don't fit no words. No words. Like Tiesto. Them niggas is there. That's rock.

Yeah, yeah. The festival joints. They don't have no words. There's no urban type of DJ that you go around the world and more people know than DJ Khaled. God damn it. Space North for DJ Khaled. God damn it. Any home team. Any home team?

Mary J. Blige or Alicia Keys? Wow. Take a shot? I'm in. I'm going to go with Mary J. Blige. Ooh, that's fire. No one can argue with you with that. Now this is it. It's the last one. I promise you it's not a trick question.

Everyone thinks it's a trick question. It's not. We both think it's the last one. I promise you it's not a trick question. Everyone thinks it's a trick question. It's not. We both think it's a simple question. Obviously, people don't think it is. People do not agree with us at all. Loyalty or respect? Loyalty. Of course. Why? Because with loyalty comes respect

for you not to respect the loyal person shows the kind of person that you are not the type of person that the loyal person is you gotta respect me if I'm loyal. How can you not? I mean, it's simple to a real nigga, Norris.

Some shit is just, you know what I'm saying? I feel like you should take the rest of your shot, though. Fuck it. I mean, for that, that was a great answer. That was it. I'm picking you up. We getting convinced that it's about you right now. God damn it, it's all new.

This is all about you, baby. Man, so let me take it down. Let me get that lighter back to us you be taking small shots What is your favorite part of the game? Is it making a record or performing a record? Performing a record.

Performing a record. Yeah. I mean, performing a record because it has to be the better part because of course you know what you put into it.

Nobody knows what you put into the record, but to receive that energy and that love for what you put into the record is no better feeling than that, of course. I into the record, it's no better feeling than that. Of course, I don't think there's too many

better feelings than that. You can't even, like, that's like a high. For people who have never been on stage and that's why they say this shit is an addiction. Some people love the rush of being successful and famous more than money. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people will choose that

because that shit is like a high. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people will choose that because that shit is like a high. You know what I mean? Even for the driver, some niggas, why you think some niggas that's big and rip ditties,

for instance? Some niggas, they drive and they rush to always be hot and always be, you know what I mean? It's not about the money. You know what I'm saying?

That shit is a drug. It's an addiction in itself. You see the Dripwater Boys? You know what I'm saying? I didn't miss it. I've been outside. I've been really working and trying to really get this brand and everything I'm doing. I can't feel my face.

Let y'all know I'm really outside. About to come with this new music. I ain't really got time for you know what I'm saying? But I'm going to catch this though. That's basically the greatest way of saying no. You were right. We got it. We's quick time answers. We're quicker than that. No, no, it's beautiful.

You see that light, good boy. Please, please, please. It's beautiful because to see our culture continuously moving and moving, like even you with your own weed strand, like where is this available? Like where can these people get? Right now, just me, just, even you, with your own weed strand, like, where is this available?

Like, where can these people get? Right now, just me, just, I mean, like I said, I'm a true smoker. I like smoking. You know what I'm saying? For me, it's a lifestyle.

Like, I really smoke. That's why, like I said, with the gas in the bag, I picked it. I made sure I didn't just let nobody put something in my bag and just,

I made sure it was something that I enjoy smoking. Right. So that's for one. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know me just being a fly dude. Like, the merch game is going to be crazy.

Like, now that the baby is taking on a life of his own. Like I said, for me, it's a lifestyle. Fly now, we're going to lifestyle for fly stoners. You know what I'm saying? Right. You ain't going to have this available? Members only. Members only.

I mean, like I said, you know, if you get your hands on it, it's like that designer. You know what I'm saying? It's like a Soho house? I don't know. Your weed is like Soho house? You never know where you'll catch the baby. You've been seeing it pop up everywhere now. It might be everywhere, anywhere.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's going down. Okay. With that. Okay. But, yeah, that's the brand right now. I'm running with that. Of course,

you know, Juelz, Santana, new music on the way. It's about to get real spicy, man. I'm just about to do what I know I can do. Do what I know I need to be doing. That's putting out music. That's being the fly nigga that I am. I mean, if people want

to see me, they want to, I mean, they want to know what I'm doing. And I mean, I just got to, I give them that. And I mean, stay, stay,

stay in the forefront. And I mean, my man Jones, I like, I like what my man Jones is doing. Shout out to Jimmy. That's my brother. I mean,

I like what he's doing. I mean, he's always got me in mind. And he's promoting your shit heavy. I love it. Yeah, always. Jim always,

you know what I'm saying? He wants to see me win. So he's, you know what I mean? And He wants to see me win, so he's with me and I appreciate that from him. Horsepower. Shout out to Cam and the horsepower. I haven't used horsepower

and I mean, I haven't felt a need to use horsepower. Sonny used it, right? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He gave me two jars. He gave me two jars

and left it in the sun. I thought Cam was trying to kill me at one point. You left it in the sun? I left it in the sun and shit turned a different color. Wait a minute. I'm fucking around. It's the old joke.

I heard it was the, you know what I'm saying? The real shit. Everything's just tearing shit up. I'm good. I'm kind of comfortable, you know what I'm saying? My space. Until I hear otherwise. Yeah, but that's crazy.

We got, let's think about it. I am getting older, so I hate it. We got a nigga that's selling legal Viagra. That's fire. Let's think here otherwise. Yeah, but that's crazy. We got, let's think about it. I am getting older, so I hate it. We got a nigga that's selling legal Viagra. That's fire. Let's think about that. That's a fact. Right? We know a nigga selling legal Viagra.

That's fucking hard. Literally. Hey, yo. Whoa. Yo, whoa, I had it. Whoa! Yo, yo, yo, yo. Yeah, yeah, vote again, vote again. That's valid, y'all. That's valid.

That's valid. That's crazy. Like, big you up, Cam. Wherever you at. That was some crazy shit. I heard it was going to sell toilet tissue at one point, but he just said, fuck toilet tissue, and went to the other Yao Ming. That's crazy. That's crazy.

He's an Oscar. So, Joe Joel, let's just be clear, right? At one point, everybody was like, damn, Joel, it's the lean. That's what's holding Joel's back. The lean. Was that a case? You said you wanted to address everything. Yeah, whatever you ask me, I'm gonna.

So, the lean for me was like the lean for anybody else. Right. I mean, I hate that. That's the two things that Dipset get blamed for. Introducing gangs to New York and drugs to New York. Sorry. I just want to be honest with you on this. Damn, they only want drugs?

Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. Oh yeah, we did have this, but I was actually a liquor though. Yeah. But yeah, I did, I, yeah. I'm sorry. Oh, yeah, we did have this. But I was actually a liquor, though. But yeah, I did. I was drinking lean. And did I have addiction to lean? For sure.

Like, I was addicted to the point to where I was drinking it every day. And if I stopped drinking it, yeah, I would have got sick. Because that's what happens with the opiates and shit. You have withdrawal. You have withdrawals and stuff. But as far as the music, look at the hip-hop game. Niggas are drinking lean. The niggas that's on top of the game.

And they got melodies. That's what I'm saying. I don't think that was, you look at Wayne. Wayne drinking, like, the lean had nothing to do. Me personally, like I said, I've stopped me from you mean whatever it is just more personal i think and like i said waiting for these moments trying to create these moments that are not there you know me letting things distract me that shouldn't distract me from at least my music you know what i'm saying like you know what i mean and things of that nature i personally don't think it was

that like i said i mean of course yeah i was drinking it i don't think it was that, like I said. Of course, yeah, I was drinking it. I don't deny drinking, you know what I mean? I think the music, honestly, it kind of gives a vibe for me. It's almost like smoking. I mean, it's almost like when you're in the studio, you honestly catch a vibe. You know what I mean? Personally, and I think a lot of artists, you know what I mean? That drink lean, or you even do pills pills and stuff will kind of tell you that.

Yeah. I don't know how to. Just like with other stuff, the same shit I don't do, like these psychedelic drugs, fucking mushrooms. Right. What does it do for them guys who paint? They get there and they paint. It takes them places, right? Very true.

I mean, it is. That nigga had to be on Mushrooms right there. Whoever did that. Yeah, whoever did that, right? Whoever did that was hot. Right now, this is it, though. This is the I can't feel my face takeover. Yes, that's what I'm talking about.

This is the lifestyle. Fly stoners. You know what I'm saying? Right. The yalla. This is the yalla. This is the yalla? You know what I'm saying?

This will take you anywhere you need to go. This is that. You're not smoking like this, Pac. You know what I mean? Right. You get that designer bud, you're... So let's just get this out here in the open because I'm not sure if I've ever seen you address this situation. What's up? Talk to me.

Or you probably have, but not directly like this. What happened at the airport, y'all? Because... What, you want the simple version or the long version? We enter with every version you want to give. All right, I'm going to go both. The simple version is... Got high. got high and picked up the wrong bag. I mean, it don't get no more simple than that.

Foes who think I'm stupid enough to take a gun to the airport knowingly, that shows me how stupid you are more than how stupid I am because nobody in their right mind is just getting up, taking a gun to the airport. I couldn't pay, I couldn't pay my wildest nigga to do no, I mean, shit like that.

So, you know, yeah, I was high. It was a long night. I was supposed to catch one flight. I missed that flight and my man Black Adon had already flew out there. From the BX?

Yeah, my man Black Adon, Damone. Yeah, that's my nigga. He had already flew out there. I actually had a book in his star list that night for the same amount of money that I was getting BS. Yeah, my man Black Adon, Damone. Yeah, it's funny. He had already flew out there. I actually had a book in his Starless that night for the same amount of money that I was getting paid.

Yeah, his Starless Queens for that night. For the same amount of money I was getting paid in San Francisco. But the only thing was my man Black had already flew out there

and I missed that flight. Gotta go hold a homie down. That, and on top of that, the same dudes who was booking me for that show had booked me for the following day. Mm.

Double bagging. Yeah, so I'm like, I ain't going to stay cool. I got to go out here. I'm flying, being fast speeding. Make a long story short, the night before I had a video shoot, right? That's like, say one of your dudes paid me for a song. They get on the song, you know what I'm saying? You know, some cash, some under the table shit.

You know what I mean? I do the joint. We love the love the other table yeah under table money is always real good it's fantastic right now let's bring something bring it yeah but um yeah so he had a video shoot so i knew him but i didn't really know the guys and who was going to be at the video so you know i takes a little pocket rocket with me i mean i go up there dolo i'm like i'm not really gonna call all my guys because they gonna bring it's gonna be too much you know what i'm saying boom i take the pocket rocket with me i go change my clothes got the supreme bag i'm like everything's cool put the joint in the bag that i got get back home that night put the bag down wake up from a long night being high cool gotta go to the airport miss one flight. I gotta

Cool Grab that bag throw some clothes in there the gun was so small because it was a small job the axe when it was a bag You ain't it was a small joint real small Dylan's a two-shot. Okay, I mean that back them off me I'm just trying to get a morph me, man. I'm just back up. You know what I'm saying? Back up, man. Listen, chill out. You know what I mean? So, boom.

Nah, didn't feel nothing in the bag. I went to the airport. Like I said, I wish I could show y'all the footage. Like, I didn't run out. People, you know, all the memes and that. That's all cool. That's funny. It's cool. It's cute. Whatever. But the story is, I went, you know, I'm in Newark airport. That's funny, it's cool, it's cute. Whatever, but the story is I went, you know I'm in Newark Airport. The girls coming up to me,

what's in your bag, what's in your bag? I'm like, ain't nothing in my bag. And it's black girls? Yeah, so they know, they like, what's in your bag? I'm like, ain't nothing in my bag. It's nothing in my bag. Go ahead, search my bag. I'm telling them this.

The camera show me standing there. If I'm thinking it was a gun, it was a gun. Usually black girls be like, what nigga? I'm still, I still don't remember. Yeah. It still hasn't clicked to me. That the gun is in my bag. That's a bad one.

Yeah. I don't know if y'all was in the yard. Yeah. I don't know if y'all was in the yard. I get it. No for real. So I'm standing there. Cool.

The girl come back to me like. Yo what's in your bag? I'm like ain't nothing in my bag. I think I'm missing my flight. At the time I was drinking a lean. So I usually. You thought it was something in your face. I thought it was a pineapple soda. Oh. That's really what I cuz you know, they don't have to make us

Oh, there's in the airport. Did you make it from jerk chicken? It's a regular fonta soda. I always take those to the airport. They don't sell them That's a good do. I'm into this. At the time, I ain't gonna lie, that's a good mixture for the fixture. You know what I'm saying? When you get on a plane, you want to go to sleep. Oh, you know,

that's what I thought. I'm thinking I'm left a little 20 ounce soda in there, but that wasn't the case. I'm just telling you why I was standing there not giving a fuck. Boom.

They said, police got to come search your bag, the high authorities. I said, high authorities? Why? You know what I mean? This is weird.

This is weird. Mind you, I had a ticket in Jersey, a guest appearance ticket that I didn't follow up with. For Bud or you was pissed off? No, no, no. Just a regular driving ticket in Jersey. You know in Jersey, when you don't appear, they put out a warrant for a ticket for those who don't know.

So I had a warrant in Jersey. A warning from Jersey. I had a warrant in Jersey that when you don't appear, they put out a warrant for a ticket for those who don't know. So I had a warrant in Jersey. I had a warrant in Jersey that I knew about. But I was going to take care of it. It was a little bullshit warrant. When they said high authorities is coming, I still don't know it's a gun in my bag. I left the airport because I'm thinking

they're going to run my name and see I got a warrant for this bullshit and take me in for the weekend. I kindly walk out the airport. I ask the TSA, yo, where I get out of here? They say, go that way. I start walking. My badge is still stuck in the thing. I'm walking.

I'm going. I get out. I get in the car. I hear on the radio, Joel Santana flees Newark Airport after they found the gun in his bag. I'm like, nah, they ain't find no no, no, no. I get to the house, I start looking for the little joint. Where the little joint at?

Now I'm panicking. Now it's panic time. Panic time, you know what I'm saying? I just took a nap. My wife called me. She's seeing everything. Everybody's hitting her. She was out skating with the kids. She came to the house. What the fuck?

Police came to my house that night. I had to act fake like I wasn't home. I went to the basement and just cut all the lights out in the house. Made it look like nobody was home. They don't have no warrant. They can't come in. Yeah, you know what I mean? Right.

And that was it. And that's the story. Wow. I went to jail. You know what I mean? They gave me 27 months one stay you know but

for people that don't know 27 months is two years how long is that two years and three months jeez jeez

two years and three months I did 19 months I did 27 months damn then I came home and then that's another thing so for as far as music

why you ain't put nothing out since you've been home, right? All right. For me, I appreciated being home, and I enjoyed being home, and I wouldn't have had it no other way. But as far as creatively and music-wise, my PO and the situation I was in, until I got off papers,

it was like I felt like I was still locked up. The stip in until I got off papers, it was like I felt like I was still locked up. The stipulation that I had to go, like, I don't want to, and like I said, I hate to, it's not an excuse. You're the fucked up PO.

Listen, it just, I still felt in a lot of ways locked up. I couldn't do a lot of things. I couldn't move. I couldn't be around, I couldn't be here because I couldn't be around

none of you niggas. Right, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Every nigga has dollars. Probably, because, yeah, it was just so much that I couldn't do around I couldn't be here cuz I couldn't be around none of you niggas Oh, you know saying everything probably because they yeah just spirit just so much that I couldn't do my problem I had to get permission to go any everywhere a two-week permission. Wow ahead of time great No saying I had to be be very strategic on what I post on Instagram So if you notice that whole time I didn't post too much on Instagram. I just started posting back up on Instagram You thought your face knows what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah.

I was feeling my face back then. You were in your house around. And that's another thing. That's another thing. While for me, this weed shit is going to be... Because it's like... Which is weird because isn't it federally approved in New York? No, that's the thing.

Not federally. That's why I couldn't... No, not federal. That's why I couldn't even smoke. That's why I couldn't even smoke while I was on the papers. Because you're still on the federal papers. Federal papers, yeah. That's crazy.

But people used to ask me, you know, people, are you going to smoke? Yes. I can't wait to smoke again. Right. Like, the whole time, like, that's how, you know, I'm a weed. I really fuck with weed. I'm just, like, I smoke weed. I'm a stoner for real.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. Like, people say, oh, you ain't smoking all this time like my mom's you fight I don't even gonna have to urge to smoke you know that's a damn lie You just definitely not somebody to roll for you though cuz I ain't gonna lie you take a half Tell them what you doing on the show. I got a roller, nigga. He's from Peru. I fly a maze to wrestle. I don't even want this. I like that.

That's the way you do it. I don't even need it. That's usually how I do it. See, this is home for you right here. This is your home, nigga. Of course. This is your home. This is your home, nigga.

This is your home. This is your home. So I This is your home! This is your home! So I need to borrow your blood for a minute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not here. You can get your own. We got you, we got you. But we got you anytime you ready, my brother.

But you got to make some noise that you don't do the lean no more either. No, no, I don't do the lean no more. So make some noise for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, but the person that don't understand is I did do lean two times. It was the best sleep I ever had in my life. Yeah, you used to go to sleep. I had it one night and I woke up the next day like, fuck y'all, because I don't like

that. Two days later. I don't like it. And then the next day I was like, give me a little bit to go to sleep. But this is from outside. As a person, because this was like a pandemic. This was a pandemic. People that was drinking lean.

It's still a pandemic. It's still lean. What was y'all doing was it ace what was it called well i'm activist activists all right so we gonna go we gonna man i'm before activists when it was farmers farmers that's when it's young no that was before that was before active okay that one here. Before that, it was technical. That's a fact, that's a fact. When I started, it was Palmer stuff. When I actually started,

it was right before activists came in. It was, you know, and that was the time, you know, we was the dudes that, from New York to everybody kinda had to get they stamp from. Yeah, that's pretty much, we co-signed them. And Houston was, they was coming up, the Houston rappers. Paul Wall, we had a, you stamp from I mean, you know, and Houston was they was coming up the Houston rappers Paul wall We had a you mean he just said in an interview where he gives that game

We don't bring him a lot disorder. We did and of course that was big in a culture He kind of did you see he got screwed me to it a little bit just awesome takes a full charge you out the store I'm a grown ass man, I do what I want, forward and left. No way, I'm not going to do that to that man. But yeah, he did, he put me on. And then me and Wayne being close and recording the album at that time didn't help. Of course, we were fully just not feeling our face all around the board just you know what i'm saying right and um we were creating we see the music we created great timeless so you obviously that's a perfect example leaning have nothing to do with it because

all that was created when i was drinking the most lean i ever drank in my life i can't feel my face that's when we recorded that whole project. You know what I'm saying? So I'm just saying that it's bad for you. Don't do it. Right. But just in case you want to get a little bit. You asked me. You asked me.

You asked me did it affect the music. That's my only thing. But it's not good for you in so many ways. Kidneys. You know what I mean? Shout out to Fredo Santana. You know what I'm saying? He passed away.

A lot of people. You know what I'm saying? You know, you never know. You? Shout out to Fredo Santana. You know what I'm saying? He passed away. A lot of people, you know what I'm saying? You know, you never know. You may not get to a point now they're selling that shit for $200, $300 a line. So if you can't afford that and you're addicted to opioids, what's your next step? You may go to heroin. You know what I'm saying? And then with the fentanyl, it's even, you know what I mean?

You're really just wacky niggas. So it's like you gotta be, you know what I mean? If you're just not, just be careful and be mindful who you're getting whatever you're getting it getting it from right if you are because you mean some people you can't just tell them not to do something they're going to do it they want so be mindful be careful be cautious take whatever steps you can to you know what i'm saying and dodge the right way it's just like when you're doing liquor they saying right right indulge in whatever you're doing rightly i mean the right way because the rock

Except for weed I can't feel my face is totally good Totally upshot is so many different ways. Yes. From the bones to the eggs to the municipal purposes. It's just, I mean. Yes. God damn. It's high tolerance. You better have high tolerance. You got to have high tolerance. Shout out to the high tolerance. My boys over at high tolerance too, man.

Yes. We know you got the connection. For this you got to have high tolerance. Well, Gumbo, what? You need something with Gumbo. You need something together. gumbo is my brother We very really really talks me into a race and okay Negotiations did I had to I had to let the baby show his ass first? Yeah

You know what it is I had to bring the dog to me that's what I do no say now We out there shaking his face, you know said I'm gonna take a shot for that Yeah this bacon. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to take a shot for that. Yeah, Luke is my brother. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, we come from- You ain't got to fill up, but you still got your own shot. You know how they say it's deeper than rap? Yeah.

That's hard. For me, a guy like that, though, it's deeper than anything. We come from, like I said, 45th and Broadway. We got shot, baby. Thank you, Norman. You know what? Let's go! Let's go!

Go back to the show. Go back to the show. Go back to the show. Go back to the show. Go back to the show. Go back to the show. Go back to the show. Go back to the show. Go back to the show. I want to get back to that real quick. We come from a place, 40 Favourite Broadway was such a monumental time in my life. We used to battle over there.

We connected with some of, not only Luka, but my man Black Adon. We met Black Adon from being out of there we met my man um creep like snacks from being over there yeah a lot of dudes that that wound up being a big part of the whole diplomat movement shite's bug shout out to shite's bug we met shite's bug over there one day she was looking for somebody to sell us an ounce of weed hey at the time cuz Luke I was buying you got about One Dominican niggas look don't you say wait a minute? You about 10 to 20 bags and light them up, but nobody was selling the weight. I mean the real you know

When they gave you the weight it wouldn't be that so I gonna front. Shites was the first person to sell us some gas, purple haze, in an ounce. You know what I mean? Like I said, I was tired. I'm a real smoker. You're not going to bag me to death. I need to really. I've been in this 20 years ago. So like I said, ounces.

Imagine what we're met now with. It's like, yeah, no. Can't feel your space. Let's just be clear. Did you it is like yeah no can't for your space this is because I want to share probably you just ask for change that's what shit come on get him a chair oh you said that my brother so my brother train my brother twin get you in a chair to Just like To change we fucking this cypher

This is why we doing it break it over there. Bring that over there. Let's go Yeah, I'm staring into the chairs come on Come on. Did you ever have a twin do a show? Yeah, that's crazy cuz we, because we be talking about that shit. He looks so much like me. That's how I'm doing. I never do the show. We've done. Come over here real quick, twin. It's a lot of things. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, give him a cheer. Throughout my life, my brother has held me down in so many ways. Yes. Like, for one, you see I look like me. Yes. And we done done it. So I. Yes, yes.

I ain't going to spill all the the beans but it's a lot of We don't do that. I'm a happily married man. I'm a happily married man. We can really hang out then. We going to have a dinner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, goddammit. Let's do the right thing. And it's big boy Luka, goddammit. Goddammit, big boy Luka. All family, all family here.

But something that would never do a show for you, did it? Definitely not. No, we talked about it. It's crazy we talked about it. But we, we, we. I don't even know the words, bro. I ain't gonna do them like that. I would never do my fans like that, I would never.

It's always been a joke of ours and just everybody around us. Like, we was talking about that earlier, because look, he got the chain on and damn, like, you done morphed into me, nigga. You got the chain, dips that chain. And me and my pictures sometime, I post, they I pose they be like they look more like you than you Is that crazy He's older, okay, but not twins your cortisol it's when that's nice. Oh, he's older by a year. Okay

Yeah, but he's been my backbone. He's like my manager now two years my manager, but even my backbone He held me down in so many ways. I don't know where I would be without him. I got to give him his roses right now while he's here. I got to give my mother her roses, you know what I'm saying? And I got to give my wife her roses. You know what I'm saying? Those three people, you know what I'm saying? From the corporate world. I feel like you're taking a shot for that.

I'm going to be honest. You're killing me, but fuck it. I mean, this is for your family. We're taking a shot for your family. That's a fact. We need a big shot. We need another shot. So yeah.

Like I said, Down to the courtroom And just being in my corner Through my whole journey Time being incarcerated And Just going through that That time You know what I mean

That's something that I'm going to be honest with you When Capone And I dealt with What My incarceration Meaning like Capone

Being Getting locked up Capone getting locked up, Capone was just becoming a star. Yeah. Like, I mean, at the tip of it, you was a full-fledged star already. So I could still send Capone, I'm sorry to his wife, but I could send bitches up there with balloon bags.

Mm. And they pussy, the Br Branson bags with the triangle. And they was like, ooh, it's cutting them. I'm like, I don't give a fuck. Yeah, see my man. Like, but you a full-fledged star. That's different. So you got to be in PC.

Let's be clear, right? Because you don't have a choice. No, no, no, no, no, no. I wasn't in PC. I'm asking. Definitely wasn't. i wasn't in pc i'm asking definitely wasn't okay so this is how that works so when i first caught my case and i was locked up for the 30 days in jersey they call it the green monster essex county that time i was in he was at too right yeah i think he's been part of no no essex county is like west orange that's

where i used to live i don't know jersey i don't really i'm know, I think it's by Patterson or North, I don't know. Okay, I understand, I'll get it. Yeah, continue, I'm sorry. So they took me up there, that's where I spent the first 27 days before I fought the case and really did my time, mind you. So, and when I was in there,

they had me in what you call involuntary PC. Yeah. It didn't matter, nothing I could do. I got my own seat. Nothing I could do to get out of that. Because I wasn't charged yet. So their responsibility for me was way more higher if anything happened to me. You understand what I'm saying?

That's protective care for people that don't know. Yeah, that's involuntary PC. I couldn't sign up. So I did those 27 days in near lockdown, 23 and 1. Once I got convicted and did my time, now. So you never bailed out? You never got home? Yeah, I did come home. Remember I came home and I did like,

I fought my trial home. And then I remember I turned myself in. I got what you call a, what do you call that? Voluntary surrender. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Where I turned myself in. So, like I said, I bailed out after 27 days,

fought my case, whatever. They gave me 27 months, I got to turn myself in, and I did the 27 months. When he got sentenced, then he had to go turn himself in. Yeah. Right, right. You know what I mean? Real shit.

So, I went and did that, but in there though, I can't front. It was loud, like the C, it was, it was... You smashed the C, I was on fire. No, I wasn't, come on, I just told you,... You smashed the CLs on the mic? Nah, I just told you I'm not gonna do nothing. I just told you I'm not gonna do nothing. I'm not gonna do nothing.

Even if... Don't get it twisted though, the dudes in there were so mad at me. Cause they knew how much power they had and they knew I could get shit done. And the fact that I wasn't, I just wanted to do my time and you know, leave. Like, you know, they like, come on on turn it up but they want me to sell drugs they want me to really go after me and I'm like bro no because I'm sure I have a lot of money good when I think of dip said I think of blood no I mean I'm still reppin I'm still I'm still I'm still attached in a part of what I'm a

part of I can never you know like stray that far away from that so I'm still attached and a part of what I'm a part of. I can never, you know, like stray that far away from that. So I'm always going to be affiliated to what I'm affiliated to. You know what I'm saying? And we all know what that is. But at the end of the day, you know, for one, when you get in feds, it's like cars. You know what I mean?

Got the New York car, down south car, got blood car, crib car. You know what I'm saying? Things called the whip. Yeah, the jail I was in, it wasn't really like that. It wasn't a lot of politics, and when I say politics, for those who don't know, that's like jails that's run by like the gangs, and you gotta just do,

this jail was more of a go home spot, that's what I'm saying. I'm not the one that's gonna sit here in front like I was in the wild, you gotta carry a knife everywhere. Yeah, I had a knife, you know what mean niggas it was men there shit happened But for the most part it wasn't the wildest spot ever. Yes, they're what I'm saying It was a and I asked my arm goddess counselor. I'm like why they sent me here man I heard this a yard for niggas that that ex gang members and niggas that done told and then he's like man

It's men here and they sent you here because they want you to do your time and go home you want to go to a spot to where you got when he broke it down to me you gotta go do this you gotta you know i mean walk to the shower with three niggas with you and i'm like shit real you know what no i don't do that i want to get my ass back home to my family and that's what I did man I was a man in there and it was jail I mean so it goes down everywhere I've seen some wild shit happen or some you know street level and some you some pause level that was crazy. I'm talking about real crazy.

Like, for real, like no, no, no. I'm talking about niggin' fellatio through the gate though. Like through the gate, he got his joint out through the gate and the other dude performing his action, it was, I'm like, nah, this is wild. Like, this is out of hand.

Where you don't want to be. Man, this ain't no place for like, jail is no place. Listen, man, if you out there doing dumb shit, and that's all I'm going to say.

If you out there doing dumb shit, man, man, if you out there doing dumb shit by any means necessary, get your paper.

Like, I can't tell you these young niggas are just just because I understand what it is because I've been there. But you know, let's be clear. What's happening right now? It's different. All these young rappers. It's different. They almost want to lift their lyrics.

I seen a tweet from Lil Duval, which is my friend. It's different. We got to get him back at some point. Oh, I saw that sweet but he said one thing about these little niggas we let is they trying to live on we were living out there is what they can try to get away from it so that's a good analysis we were living it and trying to get away from it sure and I don't think they really were living it. They're trying to live it physically now It's crazy, but you know we fought to blame cuz yeah, they're leaving it we let the blind lead the blind for tonight

We say we bought the plane The cities and I mean like I said We got niggas from New York. I said, we got niggas from New York. I take the blame for niggas from New York. No dipset particularly. Let's be clear. I mean, we've done. I can't take the blame.

No, let's be clear. I'd love to say I can't take the blame. The blood shit. Listen, we have. A little bit. No, 100%. I can't. You know what I'm saying?

A little bit. But that's why I came for me. That's why I'm here. Because y'all was the flyest niggas. Y'all was the trendsetters. Y'all was the flyest. And then when you put on the bandana and you put it through that way, and then you put it, remember, you put it this way, too.

With the hat on. Yeah, yeah. Like, yo, I ain't gonna lie. You made the blood look good in New York that way. And fly. I agree. And fly. I agree.

But now we doing that with this, I can't fly so you know now we doing that with this I can't feel my face but maybe just only just on a spanking above that but my thing is my thing is this right my thing is this well that's what I say that is to say we pushing them in a different direction that's rude that's why I'm here right now telling them that's not cool if you could avoid if you y'all can look at the mistakes we made yeah I'm saying so that she a lot of us was do we? Probably are lucky that we not in a position that these artists are going through like they just did by the scheme of our teeth

Pick the bottom, you know, they say pick the gun. Yes, they put the guns down. You can pick the gloves up Yeah, put the stuff down and pick them and pick the bar up But but but yeah, nah like like it is a lot it's crazy out there That's why I'm here saying like at the end of the day you don't have to do all that extra shit shit is not it's cool to just be cool it's cool to just be a nigga that's getting money you know what I'm saying it's not cool to be a nigga that just like shooting killing motherfuckers no source of income you know what I'm saying no source of none you ain't taking care of your family you ain't even worried about nothing but your gun and and catching the op that's not really that it's not cool at all I I ain't going to say that cool.

You know what I'm saying? Ops should be for niggas who did something to you, did something to your family, fucked up your money. You know what I'm saying? Something that has to do to where it's, you know what I mean? Touched your daughter or something, something real crazy to where it's no, besides that, a lot of these niggas don't even know what they op,

why they ops is they ops. Asking them, why you op, you op. You don't even know what they op, why they ops is they ops. Yeah. Asking you why you op your op. You don't really know. Niggas start telling you some shit from his mans. His man, he gonna tell you his man's story. Right. And which I get it, because you know we all got to be loyal to something.

Mm-hmm. And stand by and stand with something, but But it doesn't make sense. But then it gets to the point to where it's like, man, this shit is dumb shit and we got to figure out how to let me move a different direction How do you break that cycle that obviously hasn't been broken because we had self-destruction Early on we had we're all the same gang early on obviously nobody listened after that

It's never 100% gonna change other people gotta understand all we can do is keep trying to mount up and get together and Keep pushing you never to get a 100%. We need to get 60%. Or gun-free or no violent world because there's so much shit that's out there and that's stemmed up and that's going through niggas' minds that we can never control. We never have. You know how they say you can't complain about shit you can't control. The shit we can't control,

we'll never be able to control. And that's going to be out there in the world. But the visuals we can control. And the visuals continue to get perpetuated after these movements that were helping the community. Definitely. I mean, we just got to keep standing, standing for whatever we can stand for

and fighting for as much as we can fight for and trying to be as active as we can be and pushing for change. You know what I'm saying? And it ain't changing. You know what I mean? It's gradually, slowly, but surely changed and look at the amount of years it took to get that much change but all we could do is just keep pushing man and you know what I mean? And smoke the can for your face. Let's do that You have one of the illest pieces in the game one of the Crazy you see a jury game period one of the crazy in the game

That one piece you had no no talk about which was specifically to my stall with the bandana on it with the wings Oh, yeah that was my logo like my Santana piece we all had that one of the crazy it was kind of like we kind of did the same thing like we all took the wings no saying or different man bird had the wings so we all in all about you had the bird gang logo which was the BG Jim it had the wings he had my logo which he was a star with the bandana and the boots that was was a legendary change. Don't worry, I'm in the process of bringing a couple of them. Now they're back outside of my place. All papers.

All papers. All papers. Them things will come back out. I got to bring them things back out. You know what I mean? Bring them back out. Bring them back out. Bring them back out.

Bring them back out. Bring them back out. Man, I heard you. I mean, I was proud of you, too. You doing your thing. I see I got the smoke chance. Smoke chance, yeah. I mean, it's only of you, too. You're doing your thing. I see I got the smoke chance. I mean, it's only right. Oh, yeah.

Hold on. Smoke chance. Smoke chance. Smoke chance. Smoke chance. Smoke chance. Smoke chance. Smoke chance.

Smoke chance. We got gumbo. I want to say to you, Nori, I mean, talk about flowers. I'm almost ready to give you the flowers that you gave me. I don't know what I'm... I say that to say watching you and knowing where you've come from, how far you've come, seeing where you're at now,

what you've done for this podcast game is fucking out of this world. Like, you really opened the door and paved the way for this shit that's going on right now. You know what I'm saying? That's a by me. You know what I'm saying? That's a big fact. You know what I'm saying?

I used to be the new, like, when it comes, I stayed, that's my city. They all watch me, they all copy. No, when it comes to the podcast game. And ring it on too, don't throw me out of it. Got it, got it. And ask around too. Ask around too.

Hey! Hey! And switch beats too. Hey! You know what I mean? Hey! You ain't gonna fuck with me first. You know what I mean? I mean, it is what it is. To see where you at, you know what I mean? You ain't gonna fuck with me first, you know what I mean? It is what it is.

To see where you at, you know what I'm saying? Nah, but you was, today is your day, you was, and I'ma be honest, man. A lot of people you fuck with from 2G's, you know, to... Most of the niggas that you fuck with is my people, and vice versa. And the thing about why I wanted you on the show wasn't to get you drunk

or wasn't to get you to get out of line was to actually tell you that we really wanted to give you your flowers because that's what this show is about

is giving people their flowers the thing is it should take nothing away from me for telling you how great you are and you are great

but hold on you are great. Hold on, let me finish. You are great, bro. And in order to stand out in a group that's so crazy, as Dip said, because like I said, how I started it was y'all all three different entities

that came together. And in order for you to continue to monkey foot and be keeping your presence in the game, that's not, that's something that we should be saluting. That's something that should be praised. And I'ma do that to your face.

I'ma tell you man, you know what I mean? You deserve it because that's real shit. It's real shit what you been through. It's real shit what you surviving, it's real shit what you going through. And it's real shit that you going through with a smile. Yeah, yeah and this real shit is you going through over the smile yeah yeah that's the fact that then that's why I'd be like you gotta you gotta love a nigga like me cuz I always been a good nigga I always been a real nigga I always kept my head up I

always smile do do the trials and tribulations no matter what love saying and I'm still out here looking good I'm still doing it and I'm spot the bus niggas up crazy right now talk about about to go crazy like I said I'm just I'm just happy and I'm saying like I say y'all niggas know me I know how I do y'all know how I move started damn near half the shit niggas do I hate it like I said from the clothes to the we set the trends man going back to kill that remix bring that first Man First nigga that whole rock star shit these niggas did that first Big deal is tough pocket, but I made it to where it was like come on everybody. Come on

Around the world had a added dip set movement going on in a in the area. Come on. Stop this man. Yeah, let me everything we Know me man. Yeah, I got it. Oh me. Yeah, I got to know me good But if not, I'm gonna remind you got a lot of mind you might Do date like Mike Amari I've been making that way in Balmain I was kind of like I'm like now I don't want to see that's the Harlem thing We always want to outdo each other right here But on top of outdoing each other right now it's about, because he's always on to the next thing right? So now it's about I gotta go find the next thing to outdo him. Because he's doing the one thing that he's doing so crazy that it's like I gotta go on to the next thing. So that's why we always find the next thing first.

Because we always look, so even Mike Amari when I felt, it was like niggas rocking Balmain's. I didn't want to copy that wave. I'm like I need a new pair of jeans. Oh boom these had stretched, these had a new, Mike Amari, when I felt, it was like, niggas rocking Balmains, I didn't want to copy that wave. I'm like, I need a new pair of jeans. Oh, boom, these had stretched, these had a little Mike Amari came out, boom. Fear God, did the, put all this in niggas face. First of all, I'm married? Yeah, married. I did that first.

The first nigga going to patron of the new. Niggas wasn't going to that store in that town. Don't they think, what? One nigga going there before me, Odell Beckham. It's the only nigga I know he ain't influencing Influencing my culture like I'm influencing my culture. It is what he was catching Niggas know what they watch certain niggas for and I don't give a fuck no matter what I'm Out in the light. Let me put on music or niggas always watching could they know I'm always putting on

Never said and I'm outside. I'm gonna put on and I'm back outside You have to kill me right now that outside is to dis a new energy not me Yeah, so I know I need a show on the toast and average let with that shit. You know what? He's trying to numb the body. You know what? Twin, I'm going to give you a shot too, Twin. I'm going to have him take my shot. It's not the way it works.

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You kind of changed the way we were rhyming. Yeah. Actually, I don't know if somebody told me. Let me see if you... Say what you were saying, then I'm going to say what you were saying. No, I want you to... No told me. Let me see if you... Say what you want to say and then I'm going to say what I'm going to say. No, I want you to finish. No, because I want to see what you're going to say. I want to see if it's active.

Because how you was delivering your bars at one point was like, I delivered these two bars and I'll catch you back in these other two later. Okay, I agree with you Jay Z told me that one time right it's crazy Jay Z it's a lot of times Shout out to my man T-Dollar too. I got to get my man T-Dollar shot. I thought it was just me that called it. You told me, oh, who called it? Let's go, nigga. Let's take this shot. Nigga, let's go. Come on. Come on.

This is the non-shottest nephew I've ever had. So I was in the studio in baseline. You know, baseline, they had two rooms in baseline. An A room and a B room. You know, it was always about, and that's why I say we took over, because it was always about who got to the A room first. If Jay-Z came, then, of course, you had to leave. You had to leave. But other than that, it was always about, and that's why I say we took over, because it was always about who got to the A room first. If Jay-Z came, then, of course, you had to leave. You had to leave.

But other than that, it was first come, first serve. So I would get down there early in the day. Then Cam would get down there. So we always had that room locked unless Jay-Z came. I mean, a couple times Jay would come. He may walk in the room. A couple times I found him just sitting there watching me record. You know what I'm saying?

One time I came out the booth and he was like, yo man, that thing you do when you say the bars, you be like, what you saying and make them say the same thing. And then when you let the beat, you know when I be like, y'all can't fuck with the boy. I'm telling you, boy, I was the one who started that. So he's like, that shit you do,

you gotta keep doing that. Let's do it. And it was just, it stuck with me. You know what I mean? But. You talked about the New York City, when he came in and it was just it stuck with me oh yeah New York City New York City came about that though New York City came about like just a crazy way period okay period cam kind of spoke about that a little bit but it's a lot of tension going on at Rockefeller you you said you know I thought that shit no I like that like you started you I was like your friends are telling you this shit for years so I want to take a little bit too come alone it because she said they took his office or some shit.

I don't know. And then Cam responded. She got real. I don't know. I'm going to tell you about what I know. Tell you about what you know. We want to know what you know. New York City joined me in the studio. So Jay, they hadn't done a song together, of course. He was supposed to be an old boy. He had a be an oh he had a verse on oh boy and then cam we raised this cam came on this yeah he signed the same team i mean we walked in together guru say yo it's a surprise no jay said it was a surprise baby and like left the studio didn't even bother to come listen to it so i know cam has a big ego man carrie that's the biggest eagle i think he's got a bigger ego than Jay-Z. Cam has the biggest ego. He erased the Jay-Z verse. I thought he was playing around.

He's a legend. He just nods in that Jay-Z verse. Wait, wait. He said, nods, you can't nothing to... He did the same type of shit I did almost. Jay? Jay was a little bit so it was like, alright, you wait till our song gets... Nobody kept that verse at all?

I'm fine finding this verse. He completely erased it. I'm selling this as a- He's bugging. He's bugging. It's done. It would have been out. Right.

It would have been out. We're making a long story short. Yeah, Cam told me- Headlining news, TMZ. You know what I'm saying? Just credit us, bitch. Jay went into that song. It was like, you could have jumped on it when it wasn't as big as it was.

Now it's ringing, that's how I came looking at it. It's ringing all over. Who wouldn't want to jump on it? You understand what I'm saying? Anybody want to jump. Didn't you choose to dis Nas on our record just before he put out Takeover, before he dis Nas on one of his records? So it was like, you're not going to use us to, you know what I'm saying? Jewels, we never heard this story before. So yeah, that's definitely how that went down. Make a long story short, we didn't use that.

It was tension, I think, because he found out and erased the record. So now it's just inside tension that we don't know about. Boom, leading up to the New York record. He plays the beat for Cam. Cam is doing it. Who plays the beat for Cam?

Just Blaze. Okay. So Cam said... Who inside to the record? Yeah, Jay, that day, earlier that day, Jay told Cam, I think he said, you know, there ain't no tension between us or whatever, I don't think, whatever, we need to stop making it look like that. Cam like, yeah, there ain't no tension, whatever y'all do, y'all are we doing us, it is what it is. Boom.

That night, just played the beat for Cam. Cam went to Jay and said, yo, since it ain't no issues or whatever the case may be, let's do the record. Jay came in, laying on front. Jay doing the record. He doing this shit mad fast. Cam like, Cam tell me, that's one thing about Cam. Cam would put me on anything.

Any record somebody sent me. Talk that shit. That's why I give Cam, like, you know what I mean? He put me on any record. If Mariah Carey sent him a record, he would put me on it. for right carry sent to the record he would put me on whether they use my verse or not right he was giving the opportunity is okay keep going okay say yo I need you to get on this record you're going wrecking boom I heard camber, he had spit that verse.

He had wrote it like a little bit earlier that day. And it went to that song. So it was perfect. Jay did this shit in five minutes. I'm like, it's no way you can have that verse. I'm an artist, nigga. You didn't think of that shit in five minutes.

I don't care. We go and make it look like you can sing it. That shit didn't come in five minutes. You had a piece of that, but cool didn't and it looked good though he just came in the room he said you chewing his gum you know Jeff then he goes in the booth and I'm like damn I gotta make sure my shit is up to par this is Jay Z and Cam so I got the first couple bars it's the home of 9-11, the place, that was my verse. Did the Twin Towers just got locked down?

Yeah, everything, so I'm active, I'm ready to go. Active. This the home of... Cam, so I laid down, he like, that's all you got? I'm like, yeah. What are they talking about? They done. What did you just lay, and he just said,

that's all you got? That little part, it's the home of 9-11, the place of the Lost Towers. That's how I lay my shit, in increments. Okay, so how many bars was the first one? Only about three, four bars. How's the home of 9-11? The place of the lost towers. We still banging.

So I said that to Ken. He's like, that's all you got? I said, yeah, man. I got it right, nigga. I need a couple hours. I need some time. I need some time. But you said just to hook?

You knew just to hook? Yeah. So he said, all right, all right. Just make that the hook then. I said, all right. I went in, did that, and that was a hook. New knew just a hook? Yeah, so he said, alright, alright. Just make that the hook then. I said alright, I went in, did that, and that was the hook. For New York City. That's crazy. Let's break down the hook. It's the home of 9-11, the place of the lost towers.

We still banging, we never lost power. Then I did that, welcome to New York City. You fucking with BK's banging, Harlem's on gangsta. Still gangsta, there's nothing left to say but Welcome to New York City Kill that! Kill that! Kill that!

Kill that! It was originally supposed to be the verse. It was the beginning of a verse. Yeah, it was supposed to be my verse. That first part was supposed to be my verse. I just, I needed more time. I was happy, but I was happy. I was happy. I still got something with Jay and Cam.

That was legendary. Now, let's be clear. You were in the beginning of one of the most beautiful record labels. Then you were in the middle of one of the most beautiful record labels. Then you were at the ending of one of the most beautiful record labels meaning Jay and Day where was you at when you figured out that this was all over everything that y'all built as Dipset

is in jeopardy because y'all under the Rockefeller umbrella Rockefeller umbrella itself is in shambles because it's really gone. I never felt like it was over for us. Just like now, never over. Not to that moment where it was just breaking up the system that brung y'all. How was that? It was a lot of tension coming in from different angles. And, you know, of course, I think it was money. You know what I'm saying? Involved.

It was egos involved. It was at a time where just as much as we know, knew, it was just as much as we didn't know. You understand what I'm saying? We were all becoming stars in our own right, getting bigger and bigger every day. Right. You know what I'm saying? We were all becoming stars in our own right, getting bigger and bigger every day. Right. I mean, and the Rockefeller shit,

you seen what happened with them. It was almost like a pick-a-side thing. Like Jay and Dame split. Like you said, whatever that thing was, I don't know. But Jay and Cam, I mean, I said Jay and Cam. Jay and Dame split down the middle. And you seen, everybody seen what that was. was I don't know but Jane cam I mean I said Jane Jane Jane Dame we know she split down the middle and that you seen everybody seen what that was that led to pick a side that's that's exactly what that was this side this side of

course that border you damn jam where people it was a J and Dame boy there was people does write artists on J side and there's writing artists on things yeah you see that boy yeah okay and dips that was always on day always on Jay's side, and he was writing artist on Dame's side. Did you see that boy? Yep. Okay. And Dipset was always on Dame's side? Always on Dame's side. Damn, that's crazy.

I didn't know that. Yeah. But, okay, so leading up to, like I said, me and Cam were in a great space, so I'm just talking about a situation that kind of happened. So, you know, now that kind of led up to, like, I'm on Def Jam now, right?

Who becomes the president of Def Jam? Jay, Jay Z. Jimmy, Jimmy is going to Koch. Cam wants everybody to go to Koch at this point in time. That's not Koch, that's Koch, it's Koch. No, it's Koch, you're right, it's Koch. You understand what I'm saying? Is it Lansby? Yeah, Lansby turned into Koch. Lans not even one. It's Koch. You're right. It's Koch. You understand what I'm saying? Is it Lansby?

Yeah, Lansby turned into Koch. I don't know what it is now. Lansby turned into Koch. Okay. Okay. So Cam did kind of want me to go to Koch. It was more money. He was breaking it down to me, this whole independent thing. Independent.

I looked at it at the time as like, no, like for me, everybody was looking for that. Can I stop you for one second? Because at one point, Jim said, from what we hear, that he went to Lanspeed or Koch because Rockefeller and Def Jam really wasn't interested in him. Yeah, I think for Jim, more or less, that was the case at the time. You know, Jim wasn't selling as much records as I was selling. Like, I went gold, then my second album went platinum. Jim, you know, he hadn't caught that ballin' wave. You know, Jim was still just finding himself

as an artist too. Jim was over, Jim is a hustler. Yeah, super hustler. Big up Jim Jones. Jim became an artist. It's like I'm an artist before I'm a hustler. Jim's a hustler before he's an artist. You understand what I'm saying?

As far as in this music game, the street game, I'm a hustler before him, anything. But in the music game, that's how it was. So Jim, I don't even think Jim kind of knew where he would be as far as musically as an artist, but Jim just knew he was going to ride this motherfucker to the wheels for a while. You understand what I'm saying? And you got to remember his role as well. yeah a lot of people don't give miss flowers Jim Jones was camera's hype man yeah yeah no but we're done now we don't understand I would think that he will metamorphosize into an artist even have a hit record as Bowling what's the degree oh that's it that we know he may

not know that early on Jim doesn't know that's what I'm saying. He's going to ride this motherfucking tape, everything he can take along the way. You want some Ace of Spades? That's who Jim is. You know what I'm saying? Get you some Ace of Spades, brother. So make a long story short, right?

I respect the guest hat. Come on, guys. So we leading up. Jim was going to Koch, right? He didn't, like, he wasn't the artist like I was. I was the, you know, Jewel. I was a superstar that won everybody. You know what I'm saying?

You got to stay at Def Jam. I was the reason we got the deal at Def Jam. I was the one who said, you know, if Jim don't get a deal, I said it in my rhyme, if Jim got to get a deal for you to sign me. That's how we made it. All right, to sign me, you got to sign the D you to sign me that's how we made it alright to sign me you gotta sign the Dipper Mets that's how we did it you know Cam of course it was the idea but I had to embrace that I could have just

went off and you know what I mean whatever you know what I'm saying fucked shit up at that time you know what I'm saying but I knew you know cool this is what we doing make a long story short moving forward up to the part Jay becomes the arm president of Def Jam I'm still at Def Jam we in coops semi beef with depth jay-z and them dust when the shit is going down we could be cool no now we share me shambles now just talkingambles? You mean fat ass? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were just talking about when shit was getting bad now. Okay, yeah. I mean, Jay becomes the president and I'm still over there.

So Cam is like, nah, I want you to come to Koch. Man, this nigga's the president? Like, nah. Like, we're not doing this. I'm like, nah, I want to stay at Def Jam. Koch is not a good look for me. Right. I'm a mainstream artist.

I want to be on a mainstream label. And let's be clear. You know what I'm saying? I want to be clear. At that time, 50 is also on the radio saying if you go to catch Yeah, this is a graveyard doing that. I hate that was a little bit after okay This is specifically I was a little bit. All right. All right, but yeah that came about to not know I'm saying but So I'm telling you that to say this, you know, so yeah, I was optimistic with Jay. It wasn't about Jay

I just want to be at Def Jam. Right. Right. You know what I'm saying? But you thought you could deal with that, him being- Yeah, and then I'm still, because I know how loyal I am to Cam, I'm never going to break that. Ain't nobody could come in between,

now I don't know if other people, you know what I mean, thought that, make a long story short, right? Was LA Reid also the other CEO? Yeah, LA Reid was up there. So I'm just talking about the time, at time where me and Cam got a little strange too. LA Reid invited me to hear my album, my second album, downtown. Did he put on Vaseline with his... Yeah, of course he did. That's what he does.

Yeah, he put on Vaseline with his pinky. It's real shit. How'd he do it? They call me down and listen to my album. And who's in the office? L.A. Reid and Jay-Z. So they listen to my second album. I didn't know Jay-Z was going to be there.

Cool. It's just awesome. I get the call as soon as I'm walking out there. I don't even get a chance to call Cam. Cam calls me. Of course, he found out Jay-Z was in the office. So, of course, he wasn't too happy with that. You know as I'm walking out there. I don't even get a chance to call Cam. Cam calls me. Of course he found out Jay-Z was in the office, so of course he wasn't too happy with that. You know what I'm saying?

But I just had to break it down to him that, yo bro, I didn't know Jay was gonna be in the office. You know what I'm saying? And I think at this time, everything I'm talking about people is at this time, it's years ago. You know what I'm saying? At this time, I don't know if he thought my,

you know, I was. You was playing the other side? Yeah, I don't know if he thought my you know I was you was playing the other side yeah I don't know I just think these are the type of things that were happening then you know those things I was looking at on his part then I'm like damn is he doing this to fuck him saying I'm just telling you how things even got to it he got to be understand what I'm saying but who's good when you say well I'm saying can okay I'm saying but the reason you've never heard me get on you know me I'm saying Cam Okay Cam I'm saying but The reason you've never Heard me get on

You know me I had a couple times When I was kind of Really mad I mean I said But I've always respected Even like the Apollo show Cam took me to the water

He showed me how to fish That's right I'm forever grateful You'll never hear me Really talk You know what I'm saying Can I tell you a story I can tell you a story

About things that's happened You know what I'm saying But for the most part That's my brother Like what he did for me Always going to outdo whatever has been done that we've argued or fought about. You know what I'm saying? So, I got mad love for Cam. I got mad respect for Cam.

We in a great place. We got a lot of stuff up and coming, moving forward. So, you know, I ain't really going to talk too much. Just stay tuned. That's it. That is all. You know what I mean? But, yeah.

He wasn't too happy about that little meeting I had with Jay-Z. Meeting with Jay and L.A. Reid. And L.A. Reid. And he definitely put on lip gloss. That's important. And Cam was like, yo, these niggas down there. So I think he called Jay and flipped on Jay. Don't be having my artists come down there.

You know what I mean? As he said. Cam crazy can't we're crazy yeah you you as a young and I imagine you're young young one at this time you correct me if I'm wrong are you understanding cam um plot or are you sitting back and saying yo damn the y'all are thinking I'm about to elevate and he kind of hate it. Yeah, I did a little bit. I used to feel like that. You be rolling. You know, everybody's mind. It's almost

like, all right, I'm going to take the instance, right? My cousin got killed. God bless. God bless, right? And there was a lot of things that transpired within that week and a lot of niggas that could have got hit. You know what I'm saying? If God wouldn't have kind of kept pointing us into the right direction because everybody looked like a suspect.

Basically what I'm saying is when things are going and tension is, that's why communication is key. Me and Cam just didn't communicate enough at that time, the way we should have been communicating. Him being Cam, the boss, and me being just the artist, like, yo, listen, bro, this ain't, listen, bro, this is what's going on, this is what's going on. Instead of letting a lot of time get in the way,

distance get in the way, him doing things, me doing things over here, him doing things over here, allowing me to think it could be like this, him thinking over there, or it could be like this him thinking over there or it could be like this and i think that's how it happens at all parties and that led to us you know going through what we we went through personally and you know at that time and like i said that's the past but i just wanted to you know that's just kind of like a story that yeah i mean a lot of people don't know that whole Jay-Z meeting with me going up there.

And you know what I'm saying? So that happened. And then at one point, like y'all was beefing, right? Whatever, right? And then he goes, but Jewelz is out of this contract. Right? You remember that? And then he goes, Jewelels is out of this contract and

then that was like the time we all like okay so what what's going on with you else godless contract what was that moment like for you what what moment because then when he said that I think he went on for master flexes saw it and flex ax does he can yes can I'm sorry. Apologize. And then Cam goes, man, you know, whatever he says, I think he says he loves you. And then he goes, but I let you out of this contract. Yeah. And I think the next week he go, yeah, but he gave you $2 million or something to let me out of the contract. Yeah.

And where was that frame of mind? I mean, we wasn't in a good space at that time. So, like I said, I said that because, like I said, I did feel like the way it was said kind of made him look good. And it made me, like, I just let him out. And I was like, you know, but you got compensated for it. Right. Like I said, we weren't was like, you know, but but you got a conversation for it Good space at that time, but

Like I'm just going to show you that I would never cross the line and go as far as let me like this ain't all Can't make this or you know, like like I said for the most part What cam has done for me overall? It's been one of the best things that's ever been done for me in my life. And I appreciate, I honor, and I respect him for it. And I'm always going to have that love and respect. I used to always say, let me say it, it don't matter. Because I'm a loyal soldier.

Like, it don't matter how big I got. If I would have sold 10 million records, Cam is always going to be the boss. And that's how I would have treated It and went about it because I'm a lawyer soldier if cam asked me to go get him something from the store If I sold 10 million records, I'm still gonna go get cam something in the store. That's who I was. You're not gonna get cheesecake Let's be clear. No, I mean, come on. That's just you be playing Then line between

Always tell me that that's fine. It's a thin line between loyalty and stupidity. I always tell a nigga that. That's fine. It's a thin line between loyalty and stupidity. Don't ever let a nigga run that game on you, too. And that wasn't my situation. I'm just saying, for niggas out there, because I see this. You ain't loyal. Niggas are running that loyalty, loyalty, nigga. All right, now, I'll be loyal, but I ain't going to be stupid, nigga. You ain't just going to use that loyalty to the point to where it's like,

I'm out here just Betraying myself That's real I'm so loyal to you that I betray myself Yeah, that's real You know what I'm saying? My man 80 told me some shit We all here to be used We just not here to be misused

You know what I'm saying? It's like we say You should be able to bring something to the table Right I should be able to use you You should be able to use me Right But I shouldn't be out here misusing you.

You know your own terms. We all here to be used, just not misused. You know what I'm saying? And that always stuck with me, man. Shout out to 80, man. I feel like we have to get another shot for that, Drew. You set yourself up. I can't take another hit of this. I've been smoking this, can't feel my face,

and I can't feel my face already. Jesus. We this, can't feel my face, and I can't feel my face already. Jesus. Well, take another shot. Well, more of that. That might get you right. Yeah, I'm right, I'm right. Twin. Want a little sippy cup, I'm sorry, y'all.

Salud, yeah, salud, salud, salud. That's the ace of spades. Yeah. Young Willie, Young Willie ain't taking a shot of nothing. He's been seafood bottle for 12 years. This nigga done gave me a sick, a sick ain't taking a shot at nothing. He's been Give me a Take it you gotta take it there you gotta take Please talk about that one sec. You just ate some it's my nephew just need to go to the hood this thing's got glitter belt song the glitter looking like

what he told about I'm trying to see where you hear that. So about the BBs, it ought to be the BBs. Oh, yeah, the BBs. Them and Sabaki Crystal, you can't say that don't sound right. Yeah, exactly. Like, we different side of Queens, so we like, why is he looking like he from 45th Street?

45th Broadway. He got the y'allas, he got the band, and we looking what'allas, he got the man. Man, we looking. What is he doing? Then he's claiming TRU. He like, ready to meddle. This is confusing. He look like Dipset, but he claiming New Orleans.

Shit's crazy. You was feeling like Denzel. Remember when the brother, he said, take off them glasses. You over there looking like Nicky said, take off them glasses. You over there looking like Nicky Bond. Nicky or something. You gonna be Nicky Bonds or something?

Definitely not. I respect that. I got Nicky. I got Nicky. Not Nicky, but one of them Harlem niggas. And he start, now, dip-sitting on people. So he start telling them, you know, dip-sitting. I love the unity.

Yeah, he love, he love, he love. I love the way niggas rep together. Everybody still has one. But this is my family. You gotta realize, I ain't gonna lie. I think your first tour, you ever been on a, now you correct me if, if, if, if you ever been on a tour, you know, you ever been on a tour, you know, you ever been on a tour, you know, you ever been on a tour, you know, you ever been on a tour, you know, you ever

been on a tour, you know, you ever been on a tour, you know, you ever been on a tour, you ever been on a tour, you know, you ever been on a tour, you know, you ever been on a tour, you ever been on a tour, you know, you ever been on a tour, you ever been on a tour, you ever been on a tour, you ever been on a tour, you ever been on a tour, you ever been on a tour, you ever been on a tour, you ever been on a tour, you ever been on a tour, you ever been on a tour, you ever been on a tour, you ever been on a tour, I love the way niggas rep together. Everybody still has one. But this is my family. You got to realize, I ain't going to lie. I think your first tour, you've ever been on, now you correct me if I'm wrong. I think it was MeU Freeway, not Lloyd Banks. It's the nigga Cadillac Top. That's when Cadillac Top fought Keith Merritt. You remember that? In the lobby of the hotel in Philadelphia.

And we all sat there and just watched it. Just said, look, these Long Island niggas. Look at how it is. And these Philly guys get their shit out of their way. Hold on, what'd you say happened? I believe this is before the Pave the Fall tour. Uh-huh. We went on tour.

Me, you, Cam. Freeway. Keith Murray. And Cadillac Top. And the first day of the tour, Cadillac Tire and Keith Murray, people just had a fight right in the lobby. Yeah. And we all just watched them have a fight.

We just like, fuck it. She got nothing to do with us. It's entertainment. We just all stood in the lobby real tight. You don't remember that? I don't remember that. I do remember though, what I do remember, I remember I was a little nigga going to the tunnel yes you and Capone was performing Jesus and I think cam was on

the stage in gym to the door for Canada on cam that night can't push Joe stay this nigga threw up on I'm a young nigga just going to the tunnel this guy's so drunk he throws up on cam. I'm a young nigga just going to the tunnel. He did that here in Miami. This guy's so drunk, he throws up on Cam. Cam pushes Jim in the crowd by accident. This night was just so crazy. Y'all had one of the illest movements, though. Like that whole murder.

Let's be clear. Let's be clear. Hold on. Don't go there yet. Don't end it there. End it there, everybody. End it there. Me and Cam. That murder. Let me just say something. The murder unit thing you guys were doing out there. Listen to me, man. I'm still a murder unit. I love my murder unit constituents.

But I'm just telling you. Me and Cam, we had something so special at that time. We all did. And we were going. Me and Cam didn't perform separately, but people don't realize, we performed song for song. So he did Horse and Carriage at this time. You were doing verses before verses? We were doing verses, kill that!

I almost fell, hold up. At the tunnel, though. That's it. That's it. At the tunnel, me and Cam was going back and forth, horse and carriage. Super Thug, I felt like I won every night, I'm going to be honest. I saw y'all, all them niggas. I know what y'all thinking as soon as I said that.

But I didn't. It was just Super Thug was a little more, you know. Horse and carriage. And then Masey it makes it coming to videos. I want so Did I say that out loud I was thinking that in my head so can't ask me the other day He said yo, I wanted you really and You know, I love Korea. That's my brother But it was Ramadan. I can't can't can't believe a spawn this time And he said what do you'all feel when we hear

the bridge is over we don't hear the bridge is over we don't hear the South Bronx do you know what we hear we hear L-matic we hear life's a bitch

we hear New York state of mind because we've responded and we've won that battle We hear life's a bitch. We hear New York state of mind Because we've responded and we've won that battle can't Robert in case you didn't know One of his favorite artists is Karis Wong. That is my favorite artist. Karis is my favorite artist. I ain't gonna lie, but I've always told Karis Wong, fuck you man. For that very moment. But yo, Joel, so... Hold up, hold up, hold up. When you did Quick Time to Slime, and he asked Big L

or Biggie, you said Biggie Quick. Yes. And I love Big L. I'm a big Big L fan. So being that it's Harlem, I gotta ask, like, there was no influence. There was no history. It's just Big E's name is too strong when you ask the question. No, no, you don't have to go into why you picked Big E.

I'm just asking about Big L specifically in general. Of course. Of course Big L is a legend. Yes. That's why I was so skeptical and hard in trying to get him to specifically break down and what categories and what he was talking about but but being that he didn't you know I kind of had to go with the strongest thing that's when you said it what was the strongest thing I

felt and when you just said biggie is just biggie still and I mean I mean I didn't want it to take away from there with big L but he it was just a general question so I wanted to answer but big L is a fucking legend yeah so much from big L man big L is a Harlem great a Harlem I mean he would have been I don't know how big if he was definitely You know what I'm saying? At Rockapella. At Rockapella. Yeah, who knows where. Special thanks to Big L. Special thanks to Big L. Big L. Definitely. Jules, I'ma be honest, I'm taking another shot. Let's take it.

I'ma be honest. He's gonna have to be honest with you. I'm taking another shot. You have to. This is my sippy cup. Okay, all right, I got your back. I got your back. You gotta let me rock on.

Tuan, where you at? Tuan, where you at? Yo, you the illest, though. He's the only one that got away with saying, this is a sippy cup and it doesn't seem foul. I don't care about your money. Where you at? I don't know. I don't care. Yo, you the illest, though. He's the only one that got away with saying, this is a sippy cut, and it doesn't seem foul. It doesn't seem foul. It doesn't seem foul. I mean, so, Jewel, what's up? How about the act today?

Is that something you're getting into? I would like to. I've just never, I've never, I've never put myself out there to doing it. But, it's something I wanna do actually. What I wanna do though, I actually wrote a script. I wanna put that out there. So if somebody could reach out to me.

I have a script that I wrote when I was in prison. And I think this shit is so dope, man. It's like a series, you know what I'm saying? Like a, you know, something that I wrote it, you know, in other forms of a series. I mean, I don't want to say the why because I don't like to compare it. It's nothing. But it's super dope.

I just need somebody to give me the time of day. I promise you, you won't be disappointed with this. This is something that could be very big for especially what's going on right now. Like, I wrote it, and I believe in it so much. You know what I'm saying? Give us something about it. The premise of it. Is it an Oz? I mean, then I would have to say

Dwight. It's more something like you know, a long, but it has a different twist to it. And if I give you the twist, I give you the spin. I kind of give you everything. The spin and the twist is what it is. It's along those lines of everyday kind of like thing you. The spin and the twist is what it is. It's along those lines of, you know what I mean, the everyday kind of like thing you may have thought you seen, but the twist and the spin and the fact that it hasn't been touched on

from our angle and the way we look at things, I think is the dopest part about it. So please, somebody reach out to me, man. Netflix, HBO, shit. Stars, I could think something. I mean, because... Shit, maybe Revolt. Revolt, definitely Revolt.

We'll share the bag. Come on, let's get it. Let's get it. I don't mind sharing no bag. Get it, man. I don't mind sharing no bag. I don't mind sharing no bag. Nah, but that's something I've been, you know, that's another project that, I mean, I haven't really told people about. Because I only do a lot of that.

It's one of my first interviews since I've been home. Yes, since you've been home. God bless you. God bless you. Me and, yeah. What's one of the craziest things a fan ever did? Craziest thing a fan ever did? Sheesh.

Damn, man. We got a lot of wild stuff, man. I think it had to be the females, though. You know, the females, bro, they go so crazy. Like, really? Really? Really? I mean, give a nigga head

right in front of her man crazy give a nigga head like right in front of right in front of her man though look at it it don't look like that on tour that seems like

it's some normal shit and look at they man like he bugging out for even thinking he should be there having a problem with this situation And look at they man like he bugging out for even thinking He should be there having a problem with this situation that's going on That's why I know for a lot of artists they be under they don't understand why it's so hard to trust females and stuff like that It'd be hard cuz it's so hard to trust females and stuff like that. It'd be hard, cause it's like, we know,

you know what I'm saying, the lengths that females have went through to come see a nigga. Cock and balls production. So it's like a nigga be like, all a nigga could do is pray that it's not the other way around, you know what I'm saying? That's why it'd be so hard for a nigga to trust, cause it's like, yo. You gotta assume it's. Like for way around i'm saying it just that's why i'd be so hard to get across because it's like yo you gotta assume it's like for real like that's right i remember this is

that i'm married now um yeah basically i'm talking about years eons ago i remember though a girl told me right she was with her man i'm saying so she couldn't come out cool. Called me five minutes later like I'm on the way. All right, cool, how you got away? She told me, man, the nigga had his feet on me. And he know I don't like his feet, so I just started an argument that the nigga's feet was on me and just left the house. You must have had some ill feet.

I said, but I'm just telling you the lengths and the stories. And I'm like, he went for that? And you just broke out? I didn't even want her to come over. It was like, I think I sent her back, if I'm not mistaken. Like, nah. But sandpaper feet? Like, go home. She got to go.

She got to hit. No, she didn't. It was his feet. You know what I'm saying? He got sandpaper feet. Oh, yeah. I don't know. I think I don't know what it was, man.

I'm just saying, they're like, they been watching the time. They used to sandpaper feet like they bitch go. They're like, go ahead, they think you said that they bitch go like I think I'm a much is fucked up So here we're hearing and knowing these days. It's like niggas be niggas be niggas get cold out there, man. Yeah I mean, I just I'm just blessed man. It's happy. I'm blessed me we blessed We blessed we blessed God damn it. I like this night bless. That's a fact. Yeah, that's a super fat. This is the makes me these people Because these niggas ain't finished the rosé at all. You, we got another bottle too. We got another bottle too.

I'm just being honest. This is specific shit. This is, this is not the rose. I ain't going Earl. I'm telling y'all now. No, you're not going Earl.

I'm Earl. Just like you on stage, man. Don't worry about it. Oh no, I did Earl on camera. Should I address that? I feel like I should address that.

Well, which one? What? Where I Earl'd on camera because I did not mean to Earl on camera on that. Like, it wasn't like, the way he just said it one? Where I earled on camera. Because I did not mean to earl on camera. It wasn't like that. The way he just said it, I was intentionally, I just kept going.

Even though I did earl, I just kept going. I don't think it literally earled the one that was like... No, no. He was like... But that was your M.O.? It was my M.O. Now, hold on, hold on. Listen.

So I booked his first solo show in Miami I saw him I'm DJing he went, he's right. He's right. You're a fucked up guy. You're a dirty motherfucker. What Deja Bel said. I didn't know that he did that everywhere. Yeah, kind of.

But let me just tell you something. I'm going to be honest with you. My favorite person to perform with was Cam'ron at that time. Me and Cam everywhere, just going horse and carriage, super thug. It was a beautiful thing. And that birthed Dixit. Y'all looked kind of like y'all. At that time, like I said, I was really just a hip-hop head, just watching the game.

It looked like y'all was super cool. Yes. His first performance in Summer Jam was with me. Yeah. I came out. I was like, where's the boom? Because it's a boom. I was like, I didn't.

Pyroglyphics? What's that shit called? Pyroglyph? No, no, no. Pyroglyph. I didn't want to come out with the pyroglyph. So I was like oh shit Holy moly

And me And me and Ken But you know what He had a dream To come out with his crew Because I don't think he liked entertaining Outside of looking in

again this is not me this is not Cameron telling me this this is me looking from the outside and me and Un still speak to this day

Un called me when I told him I was interviewing Snoop and he told me Cam didn't expect us to be signed to entertainment he expected to be signed

to Biggie and that's just that and that's to be clear that that was Biggie's label. Cam rapped for Biggie. Biggie was supposed to sign him. Biggie passed away. God bless the dead. Unkept the word of Biggie wanting to sign Cam.

Right. And he got signed to Un. And that was how that went down. So to probably answer your question, I wasn't around at that time. I let cam speak and elaborate on that but i wouldn't necessarily think he kind of liked it on entertainment in that whole situation either i mean it was a bad time i got i got with him kind of like during the end of that time him there with epic records and it was just like he wasn't i mean i think it was

crushed on you i think he wrote crushed on you. I think he wrote Crush on you. Yeah, he did. To my knowledge, he did. To my knowledge, he did. He wrote Crush on you. They didn't put the y'all in the y'all up. And after that, the y'all up was not the y'all up. Yeah, man. How much it makes mad sense, though. Yeah, how do you understand that's not said?

Y'all up, though, right? saying? Y'all are though, right? Because it's the first place I've been. Yeah, I did know. You could be at the Yala, going to the Yala, or be in the Yala. It's either or. It's either or. Or you could have the Yala. Or you could have the Yala.

You know what I'm saying? At the Yala. Or you could be smoking the Yala. I don't know how I'm going to get another shot. I'm never going to do it. No more shots, man. No more shots. I'm smoking for the rest of it.

You're going to smoke for the rest of it. But you all, we just want to tell you, man. We got love for you. Yes. We respect you. Respect Twin. I appreciate that, man. Respect 2G.

Respect your whole crew. Respect everybody that you come with. I got the same love and respect for you, man. Let me show you, let me spray some Creed, because this some expensive shit. The Creed. Fucking my sinuses with that shit. Just spray some Creed.

I don't be knowing why I be spraying Creed sometimes. I definitely want to ask about the Wayne shit, because that is real shit. Y'all was like, y'all was like the Bobsy Twins? They was the Bobsy Twins. Y'all was like, y'all was like the Bobsy Twins. This is the Bobsy Twins. I like to call us, what you call them, the Blues Brothers. Blues Brothers. Yeah, man.

Definitely, I like that too. The Blues Brothers, man. Do you think you had a lot of influence on Lil Wayne? Yeah. Or vice versa. Yeah. Turned him blood. I was about to say, I think I had a lot of influence on Wayne.

And I also think Wayne had a lot of influence on me. I think Wayne is a great— He turned him blood, he turned you only. Oh, man. That just sounds so fucked up, man. It did. Y'all just corrupted each other. My bad.

I didn't mean it like that. I meant that in a good way. I mean, it's so good. It's so good. It's so good. It's so good. What was the exact question again? You turned him blood, he turned you only. No, no, no's so good. I mean, it's so good. It's so good. It's so good. It's so good. But what was the exact question again? You turn him blood, he turn you on lead.

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I think I had a lot of influence on him and I think he had a lot of influence on me. With that being said, Wayne is a, and just like me, and just like we all should be observers of the game, and we all should take... Students of the game. Students of the game, exactly. We all should take what we like it's kind of

like what Kobe did. You know what I'm saying? He took from Jordan, he took from anybody and he put it into his own style in his own way so I think Wayne took pieces from anybody that he liked and had you know what I'm saying felt like influenced him which so did I From the biggie to the little Wayne. Right. You know what I'm saying? So when, you know, people used to always try to say that to me, kind of like, I should be like, Wayne is my brother.

Like, look at it like, oh, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, Wayne, my dude. Wayne came in. You know what I'm saying? Wayne was Wayne just like I was you else. We both kind of like gave each other what we needed to give each other and fed off the energy that we brought to the table

and that's how that whole I can't feel my face, you know what I'm saying, project came about and we just, we just maintained a good relationship, you know what I'm saying,

a real brother-like relationship, you know what I'm saying, which is, you know what I mean, deeper than the music, you know what I'm saying, we have like a real, like I said, brother relationship,

like I call when he's there, you know what I'm saying, I respect what he tells me, he respect, you know what I mean, deeper than the music. You know what I'm saying? We have like a real, like I said, brother relationship. Like, I call when he's there, you know what I'm saying? I respect what he tells me, he respect me, what I tell him, and you know what I'm saying? That's my bro, that's my brother. Take a shot to that, man. That's my brother. Oh yeah. Ow, ow, ow.

Look, I'm gonna take a little, I don't notice, I'm taking my whole shot down. And we always got music done together, so that's a... I know that's coming. I just finished, man. Right. I'm definitely not going to... Now, this is my first time. I'm going to take a piss break. You're going to take a piss break?

Yeah, yeah. Y'all keep going. You're arguing about the shots? No, no, no. I'm not. No, no. I'm taking more shots. I got to take a piss break. I've been holding this shit for a long time. You gonna give us a verse about it? You want me to spit some? No. Actually you ain't never spit on Drink Chef.

Spit something on Drink Chef. It's not gonna happen today. I've been trying to write rhymes though. Life wanted to send me a beat. He sent me out my light part too. I was like, ooh. You know what you gotta do if you come back i'll go right what you got to be with you got to come what you gotta do a pharrell joint oh no yeah he hunt that too yeah i know

but you gotta bust him like that yeah he got an intro for that he gave me some money with some and i had to give it back to him i said just take it gotta bust him with a pharrell joint out the gate you want to do the hook i mean i would i wouldn't even do it i wouldn't even feel like i'd do no job You gotta bust him with a Pharrell during the game. You gonna do the hook? I mean, I would. I wouldn't even do it. I wouldn't even feel like I'd do no job. Like, for that, I wanna hear you. The same, you say I wanna hear Joel, you know what I mean?

I wanna hear you once you sit like that. I like your style. Come on, man, five minutes, come on. Come on, keep it going. Hold up, what's the Discover story? What, which one? You being discovered as an artist. Oh, oh, me being discovered as an artist. Oh, oh, me being discovered as an artist.

So, um, my cousin, which is my man Tobe, shout out to him. Um, I told the story a couple times before. Make a long story short, Cam was sleeping in the car one time. He was driving Cam around. He had been telling Cam that I rap for a while. Cam just never got a chance to hear me. And one day Cam was in the car asleep. Like I said, he drove him up the hill to my block. Like, yo, come downstairs. I want you to rap for Cam. And I was like, all right, you serious? I

came downstairs. Cam's in the car. He's still sleeping, mind you. You know what I mean? He wakes Cam up. Like, yo, my, calls me his cousin, like, your own cousin want to spit for you, boom, he looking at Cam, looking at him, like, yo, what the, where you got me at, where you at, you know what I mean, yo, you bugging right now, you know what I'm saying, I just go, I just go, like I said, I didn't really know if Cam really liked what I did because he was, the energy was like a wake up, out your sleep energy. He didn't really give me no feedback. You know what I'm saying? So, a week later, two weeks later, I think it was, my cousin called me like, yo, the one that brought Cam up the block, he was like, yo, Cam wants you to come down to the studio, man. I'm like, are you serious? He's like, yeah, man, Cam wants you to come down to the studio. I'm like, all right, I'm coming, I'm coming.

I'll be down there in five minutes. You know, I knew it was going to take me longer than five minutes. I just said I was going to be down there in five minutes. I went down to the studio to meet with Cam. Cam put me on two songs that wound up being on his album, the Sports, Drugs, and Entertainment entertainment album and it was history from there i mean we reformed dip set and just just do you remember that verse you spit for him that first time i wish i did that was so long ago my brain is my brain is like i can't i have a hard time remembering my my um no i don't i i i perform

so much i always remember it but like new rhymes i write i have a hard time remembering my, my, my, my, um, no I don't. I don't, I perform so much I always remember it, but, like new rhymes I write, I have a hard time, like, remembering. Cause I'm so studio, studio, like I said, I always have my own studio, so I just go lay shit down and just move on to the next thing that, only time I get to remember it is when it's time to put it out, and if I don't put it out, then it's like I really don't remember it. You know what I mean? Right, it's in the hard drive.

Yeah. Let me ask you, right, because at one point, seems like you guys did everything and then KMS started this something called the UN. Mm-hmm. And at this time it seemed like the UN was something opposed to Dipset. It wasn't the same thing. And then this guy Votto comes out. Did you ever think at one point that

bottle was like your replacement or somebody that yeah no no okay you can't replace me like that I wouldn't even at that time yeah no matter what place or space he was all and we were all kind of doing our own thing at that time yeah no matter what place or space he was all and we were all kind of just doing our own thing at that time and I mean

I respected that I mean I respected that it was something new that Cam started imposed of kind of you know the dip set

was the dip set you understand what I'm saying and I think he understood and we all understood you can't recreate that this is so the only thing else to do

is to do something different. Now whether people think it's similar, you know that's all, people always want to have opinions. That's why I say I try to stay away from or not, you know let people have their opinions and just be comfortable with their opinions being their opinions. You gotta be, especially us being who we are,

we gotta be comfortable with people's opinions being their opinions. Let me have a little bit of tough skin. But there was any time when people got under your skin? No, no, no. Because like I said, you see what the first thing is? You can't replace me, nigga. I'm here replacing you. You can't make another.

Like I said, I'm that nigga. You can't. I mean, I'm sure Battlefield, he that nigga. So it's nothing to take it, but ain't no replacing me. You can't do that. That's like, you know what I'm saying? that so it's not nothing to take it but ain't no replacing me you can't do that it's just like you know what i'm saying that's that's and that's why like i said i'm sure and i respected the way cam went about it and did it as the u.n because the dip set you can't make that you can't you

can't that's what it is right you understand what i'm saying that's etched in stone what it is you understand what i'm saying the members who it is. Right. You understand what I'm saying? That's etched in stone what it is. Right. You understand what I'm saying? The members who it is, you can't really, you know what I mean? You can't just throw shit in the dip set. You know what I mean?

And I respected that more than just, I never looked at it like he was trying to make another, another us. You know what I mean? Yeah. Or replace me.

I never looked at it like that. No, no, no. I don't think anybody else. But I think, like anybody, you're smart, you know, if you had success in the area, so he had success

in breaking an artist, which was me, so why not try to do that again? You know what I'm saying? It's just only... That's a smart thing to do. You know what I'm saying? Was that the time

when your relationship was at shambles? I think, no. Like I just said, we were all just doing what we were doing. Me and Cam had kind of like been in a decent place

at that time. It was, you know, it was what it was. We had just did, I think we had did the VT Awards, one of them shows all together, and Vito came out. We were all backstage. We did the, matter of fact, we did the reunion tour while he had the union. Wow.

The diplomatic reunion tour. Word, so it was all, it was cool. That's what y'all need to do, man. Y'all need to put all y'all homie niggas together. Go the fuck out there and motherfucking get that motherfucking money. That bag? Yes, get that big bag.

I'm with it. Why not? I ain't never against no bag now. I'm with the bag. Why not, man? Make some fucking noise for that, damn it. I ain't got too much money to pass up the bag now, I'm with the bag. Why not? Man, make some fucking noise for that, now, Danny. Come on, now, Danny. I ain't got too much money to pass up the bag now.

I ain't say, I was, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I'm blessed, brother, you know what I mean? Let's get all bags now. Let's get the bags now. I'm with the bags. Now, was there ever, like, you and Jay Da Kiss had a conversation afterwards, after Versus,

because, you know the jewels bandanas a signature yeah yeah and he do yeah yeah now I was gonna fuck him up I was gonna fuck him up no I'm just joking yo I text Jada yo I text Jada right after that joint. And I say, yo, you caught that one. See, I'm good, I'm fed, you know what I'm saying? And in the process, in the moment, you know what I mean? If you look the way it happened, right?

They were trying to block me in and they couldn't. You know what I mean? They thought I was smaller than what I was. And I kind of fully threw that shit. I mean so Jada being witty It's like okay. This is gonna might look crazy. So I gotta do something to make me so he grabbed So for me it was like I was about to see what I was about to do was slap his hat off, right? We do they got this thing when we slap niggas head off right like this. Yeah, right. We understand but I Didn't do it, right? Right.

Because I got respect for Jada, right? And, I didn't take the bandana shit as, you know what I mean? Mm-hmm. Like that. Because like I said, I'm like, oh, he caught that one.

What can I do? I'm about to slap his hat off. But I didn't want to miss and slap him in his face. Right. Because there's a lot of movement going on. You understand what I'm saying? Right, right, right. And like, you know,

it was like, more than anything it was just a nigga i really i wouldn't really gave a fuck if i slapped him in his face and and shit went left all the way around the board but i had weight and i didn't take it like that i looked at it like nah you caught that one and like i said after i text jada but reason i said i was gonna fuck over because jada said nah i ain't gonna front when i did that i thought it was over for me i thought your niggas was gonna jump on me, man. But it's all like,

me and Jada's cool like that. Like, you know what I mean? We got an off-camera, off-screen relationship and Jada's always had a love and respect for me. You know what I'm saying? He's always shown that and I've always shown that

for Jada too as well, which I'm sure a lot of people have because, you know. Of course, of course. We all from New York, brother. Jada showed his ass that night, though. He did that. He did that on a professional level.

You know what I mean? Yeah, because he kept going. Gotta give him his flowers. He's like, I don't live in Ohio. Yeah, yeah. What the fuck are you talking about? I think they saw how I got through that shit. You know what I mean?

That's why everybody in the gym. That's my lip fit. Is this? I don't know. I don't know I don't know no not them but yeah god damn

the Jewels man I'm going to be honest man you are definitely a person that deserves his flowers you are definitely

a staple in the hip hop you are definitely a person who stood the test of time. You're still here. You're still happy. You're still looking good. You know, a million dollars in jewelry. I appreciate that. You know, I'm still rocking. I want a shot. I want a shot.

You ain't still got your shot. You ain't still doing that. That's a new one. That's a new one. Oh yeah, that's a new one. That's a new one. That's a new one. Don't let us get you, my nigga. Do not let us get you. Nah, nah, but you know what? Juelz, I'm going to be honest.

Yes. I was there that day when Cam Rahn bunged you to violate the office. You was there? I got it on film, sir. Woo. And when you walked in and Cam Rahn just played it, it was like, it was me, Busta Rhymes, Chris Lighty, Dave Lighty, and everyone, and he just said, yo, Rhyme, and you just came in. And from that moment, I knew who you was.

I knew who you were going to be. And I saw it. I appreciate that. Make some noise for me. I knew who you were going to be. And I saw it. Make some noise for me. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Finish it. Finish it. Finish it.

Because you damn sure really deserve your flowers, brother. No, no, no. We got you your flowers, but we really deserve your flowers, Dwell. I appreciate that man nah um and this rap game they kick us out the minute we not the minute we we got three years strong in there we're gone mistake go to the side. They say, it's a little gray cap.

It's the next nigga. And they say, gold bottle. Disposable. Disposable is the next nigga. But I feel like with us two, being, I brought as much as the music was,

the music was the drive and the force, but I brought more to hip hop. We brought more to hip hop than just that. You know what I'm saying? We birthed niggas in a lot of ways. Styles in a lot of ways. Energy in a lot of ways. The way niggas go about things in a lot of ways,

niggas definitely took it to another level. And shout out to all these young niggas doing what they do. I respect it, you know what I'm saying? I ain't got no hate in my blood. I love seeing it. I love what the game's evolved to, you know what I'm saying? And, you know, but we still, like, they know. Like, Dwell, they know.

They know us, man, you know what I'm saying? And they know what we bought. I created a lot. And then after the verses, we see all of this dip set, Rough Riders, Glocks, State Property Tours. Is these tours still happening? I mean, you know, it's just a lot of politics with the tour. Hopefully, if the business could get right and everybody could agree. The first half?

It's just the numbers and everybody agreeing to what, you know what I mean, what they want and stuff like that. But the first half ain't coming. It's just the numbers and everybody agreeing to what they want and stuff like that. The first halves ain't coming in, let's be clear. We understand the positives. The first halves came in and they told me on the road and we'd be moving. It definitely was a business situation

that didn't get taken care of and that's why it hasn't gone on as of yet. But, you know, it's still being talked about. A lot of things are still being talked about when it comes to us getting on the road with pretty much anybody, you know what I mean, whether it's the Lox or, you know what I mean, somebody else, or just us, you know what I mean? So, you know, like I said, just stay tuned.

It's like, for me, I feel like the stars are just aligning and everything's kind of like falling into place like even for me to be up here now let me just like i felt like i had things going on and i had a reason to kind of like be up here i gotta i got energy i feel i'm feeling good before i was in a place to where i wanted to be up here you know i'm saying like like i said being on probation for me wasn't a good time. Off the papers. Yeah, so that's why I keep stressing this off-papers shit for me, because off-papers, it's like a new energy.

You know what I'm saying? That's why y'all feeling that for me right now. That's right. Right, goddamn. We feeling it. You know what I'm saying? Because that's what it is. You know what I'm saying?

Like I feel really free, so I got to just, just going to push it to the limit now, and everything that involves me, I'm just pushing it to the limit. Got that? Got that. We make some noise with Ju-O.

Yo, Ju-O, look, I said to you once again, man, we really respect, appreciate, and we want that music. We want that music. They less. They less. I get the... We said the trends, that was just me getting my feet wet. I got a couple meetings coming up.

Killed that. Only reason I ain't put out something yet is because really these meetings that I'm having, I'm just trying to figure out the angle I'm going if I must stay trying to sell the baby No, the baby is or the baby is is viral or even this is the no no, man He's not but now he's gonna be on three right now. Oh the baby is super viral now Yeah, that's it. But that's one thing I'm talking about as far as the music though, like Got a couple meetings and then just a debating on whether I still want to independent. We don't even know. Are we still on Debt Jam?

No, no, no, not on Debt Jam. But I got a couple meetings right now near future, probably before, maybe before this interview even comes up. You know what I'm saying? Like, within the next couple couple days. No, no I'm just saying you'll put out there just But the music is right around the corner. It's just right if I guess it would you say would you whistle? No, it's just about me at the end of the day No, that's it. This's about me and the music. You know, that's it. It's just about me and the music. Okay.

Me and the music. A lot of niggas don't know Joel's one of the first niggas And I can't feel my face, of course. Queens niggas too, you heard? I was in Queens,

I was in Queens, Queens hats, my niggas. I'm like, yo, what the shit? I was in Queens a lot, more than a lot of Queens niggas.

Slow all the niggas. A lot of, shout out all my queen niggas, my man Bucks. My man Bucks told me to shout out, shout out to Bucks, shout out to Slow. Shout bucks my man bucks. Oh, yeah, I'm the buck I'll just let out the bugs in there. Oh gee soup. Oh my guys out there Well, it's definitely be fucking with Queen's

That be out there be out there I'm saying Shadyville. All that. We just got to show me this. We're going to take a shot. You got to understand what this is like drinking for me, man. This is like I drank a bottle already. Bro, he's trying to kill you.

Don't let him kill you, bro. I know how you do. He's a professional. We love you, Juel. We over here. We love you Juwels. This is that gumbo yumbo. This is that gumbo yumbo. Don't let nobody talk you into no shit.

Don't let nobody talk you into no shit. Don't let nobody talk you into no shit. You're right. I'm not gonna let that dude out. You good. You on. Let me just tell you something. For all rappers that don't do that. You know what I mean? You good. You on. Let me just tell you something. For all rappers that don't know,

when y'all come here, y'all at y'all sanctuary. Nah. They'll at y'all home. You always told me that. Because you know what the craziest shit is? A lot of niggas,

they say they've been at these other locker rooms. They don't got these plaques. I got trophies. These other niggas been to these other locker rooms. God bless them. They ain i got trophies these other niggas been these other locker rooms god bless them they ain't got no trophies y'all listen you deserve all the trophies you got though anybody want to ask me why i'm talking about i got a trophy you deserve i do want to ask you which over you talking about platinum oh which one some which repeatedly I'm talking platinum. Platinum? Gold. I'm with you. Repeatedly.

I'm with you, repeatedly. Consecutively, that's what they say? Consecutively. Yeah. I've been outside, man. I ain't even cast those checks yet, y'all. Listen, that's what the- Now you talk your shit, you know what I'm saying?

That's the war you're for. That's who we at. That's that type of- NRA shit, I don't even touch that yet. Know what I mean? I'm going to. Going to. Going to. When it's time. It might not ever even get time, cause you just- Not yet. Yeah, not yet, right? I didn't even touch that yet. You know what I mean? I'm going to. Going to.

When it's time. It might not even get time because you just... Not yet. Yeah, not yet, right? I get it. I get it. It be like that. We also outside. That's what I'm talking about.

We also outside. That's the fuck I'm talking about. That's the fuck I'm talking about, bro. But, you know, I want to respect... I'm a twin. I want to respect y'all. I want a twin. I wanna respect y'all. I wanna say that because this is y'all sanctuary. This is where hip hop is supposed to come and get praised.

Supposed to say, you know what, this is good. Cause you know why? These niggas ain't gonna give you those flowers. You see the flowers right there? Them niggas ain't gonna give you them flowers. And them niggas, the flowers they gonna give you, they gonna die in two days. See the flowers we give y'all?

Forever. We like our chicken, nigga. We appreciate it. We appreciate it, man. Our chicken will be there forever. We appreciate it. Greatly appreciate it. We love y'all, though.

We love y'all. A We love you a little bit. Juwan, we appreciate it. You know, nah, real talk. You know, Dipset has been a part of our life, you know, since I've been famous. You've been a part of Dipset. Dipset, been famous. That's a fact.

And we always want to praise you and show you to your face how much we appreciate that because it's real shit. They have a lot to the culture. It's real shit. And one other thing

I want to say back, let me get back to it a little bit. Because I be here and I hear everything. And so you know, I see everything. A lot of things ain't worth addressing. Cause a lot of niggas, they just be irrelevant niggas

that want to get relevance off my relevance. Know what I'm saying? So you can't, but it be a lot of shit. Like a lot of like, niggas know what Dipset is, niggas know who Dipset is. Niggas know who Dipset is. You know what I'm saying? Like niggas know who did what. Like, well, there's a lot of shit that I don't sit there and talk about,

but it's a lot of shit that's just like, y'all know who, I did a lot of this shit. You know what I'm saying? And I just, just would like, niggas would be like, this Austin. Like, no, this sound, that Dippin' Man sound, I started that Dippin' Man sound. Talk that talk. You know what I'm saying?

Talk that talk, bro. Cam and Jim, they know. Those of you who talk about it, I'm talking about other IBEAM niggas. We started. I made this Dippin' Man. When this sound came, Cam was doing. If you listen, Cam's first album wasn't like the Dippin' Man album when it comes to that soulful. I got the first Heat Makers CD.

I rapped over the Heat Makers beats to I'm Ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. Doing what I do. You know, playing with that sound. You know, the beats are soulful. You know what I'm saying? And we all liked it so much that it became, you know what I mean?

And that became the Diplomatic. But I did that, though. If you want to talk about the first person to do like Oh, he was that sound I created the sound and in brought it into the movement the name dipset I physically said that in the rhyme dips because what I'll set was I'll get like you said we've had them blood Whatever the case may be set so to spice it up. You know, we always say you got we got lingo and i'm saying that's from all that's what we do so we would have dipper match but now we turned into the dip set i did that you dig what i'm saying so let's be clear let me i don't really know what everybody else wants and i'm saying like i said i want to make some noise and i'm saying this to take because

it's like niggas can't be mad at cam niggas ain't got no right to be talking shit saying nothing to know like i said cam gave all of us a shot and. Niggas ain't got no right to be talking shit, saying nothing to no, like I said, Cam gave all of us a shot. Know what I'm saying? Whoever ain't make good with the shot, they ain't make good with. It is what it is. Know what I'm saying?

Shut the fuck up, man up. Niggas gotta do what they gotta do and it is what it, and that's it. Don't ask why this, niggas be like, why this, nah man. The fuck? Niggas is grown. I i went to jail i ain't complaining nice and nothing about nobody just keep it moving do what you got to do for you and yours and i'm Thanks so much for that. Thank you. I'm going to take a penis.

I'm going to take a fist. The Falus Fire Fist. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. Holy shit. I'm going to take another shot. Twin, I'm going to be honest. I'm not even going to fall.

I'm not even going to fall for the broken shot with you well let's do it all right listen yo let me take something to us and we filming all this reason once you know so good don't feel like you get loose I really don't go but we because But we can take a shot. Because he's not really taking a shot. Yeah, he's playing games over there. Look at my bottle. I'm a foul nigga. Look at that.

Look at that. Yo, yo, I want to know something, though. Seriously, seriously, seriously. Yeah. Like, did Game really drink that whole fucking bottle, though? Yeah, two of them. He did some shit like that before I seen him, but I don't feel like you could really do some shit like that.

He did it right here. He was sitting there not seeing shit. The shit was full though? Full. He opened them. You know how he hold out of you? He's your brother. Look. Maniac. So why you looking like that? I know he got a divot. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

I love him. You ready to win? Yeah, no problem. No problem. sure I'm being real, I've seen them. Like, just crack them. Right? You need to bring them up. So talk to us. Talk to us, right? Because, you know, we're from New York. New York, our New York strands, the Smoke Champs, you know, gumbo. How is, what's high tolerance? Break it down for us.

Well, high tolerance is just, that's, you know what I mean, niggas? I was fucking with my dude, Manny. That's just, that's his company. You know what was fucking with my dude or man. That's just that's his company They based out of Cali and I think they from Boston those But shout out to them know I mean, that's why I partnered with for this did this this this I can't feel my face thing That's going on right now going so crazy in the streets right now and i'm saying oh he can't put his face neither no he's he's his face is his face i mean but yeah shout out to them shout out to anybody and then like i said for me weed is a

lifestyle something i love to do i really do i got a passion for it, and I think that's why it may work a little bit better. Because everything I do, I'm just going to be passionate about it, you know what I'm saying, when it comes to, you know what I mean, the specifics behind, I mean, the quality and everything that's brought to the table. You know what I mean?

At Ju-O's, man, let me just be clear. We love you, brother. I love you, too, Nori. I love you, too. We love you, man. Like, I'm going to be honest, man. I'm about to burn your whole life. It's a beautiful day.

Oh, shit. Oh, shit. That's crazy. Good catch, man. Good catch. You know, you got me drunk. I'm about to... He didn't get you drunk, man.

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Yo, yo, listen, listen, listen. I'm going to be honest. We've been having conversations about you. We ain't not around. I'm on the bus. We want you outside, you know what I mean? Listen, I'm back outside. We want you outside.

You know what I mean? We didn't like when you was on I'm gonna have my baby I'm a little baby with me. That's cool. Yeah Wait a minute. Yeah, I like it These people you mean you mean just get it but all I gotta do is show and prove my that's why I hear that even For this interview, I I said it is what I just won't do it yeah I'm saying oh god you got this shot we already drank it buddy drink that drink this is full shots ago 17 shots come on come Sippy Cup. Do one more. You need to finish the sipping cup. Come on, Twen. Where you at?

I drank. We drank it. You ain't drank your shit. I just re-upped, bro. You did not re-up on that, bro. And by the way, let's be clear. Let's make some noise. Excuse me. Let's take a sip and be silent.

Be six seconds for Huddy Six. That's a fact. Take it. And then. That's a big fact. That's the piece, Huddy Six. Our brother. And one time for DJ K Slay. Oh, yes. Let's go for DJ K Slay Oh yes

Let's go for DJ K Slay Damn niggas made me drink a whole bottle Legend legend Yeah let's talk about K Slay for a second That's crazy K was a good dude man like K K loved the culture

he was the culture he was the culture you know what I'm saying the epitome of it 100% yeah I wouldn't disagree you know what I mean

as far as helping you know what I mean young artists artists that you never would have heard you know what I'm saying always just trying to promote and do right by people that's not getting done right by.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Always, always just trying to do the right thing by artists, trying to help artists. You know what I'm saying? First thing, excuse me, I'm sorry. Shit, down to look, got the hottest magazine in jail you mean like it's the hottest thing in jail you got love hip hop on Monday the last face done

magazine hottest things in jail Emma right or wrong you know that's a bit of a hip-hop space time magazine You got you got you got them niggas that just like They call them head buses them niggas that just wait wait to the CEOs They call him head but they will wait to the CEOs go around and stand at the door and we don't know we don't do that it's like got mothers got daughters you don't do no like that yeah we if any of a they gonna do like you said love hip-hop play starting magazine go out use a good time by yourself yeah let me put your little towel over your door yeah the out yeah you know what I'm saying? You got them other niggas though that get crazy. Other niggas that's outside. Other niggas.

You see the nigga that he jerked off four times? Another direction, another direction, man. And on the plane, on Delta Airlines. You ain't see that nigga? Nigga was on Delta Airlines just whacking over everybody. You're crazy. We pay respect to K-Stars. You sit with me, you wanna join another place, bro! Who gives a fuck about that? I don't care.

I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care.

I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care.

I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care. I donas know. This nigga on Delta Air Lounge is wild. Y'all don't know who I'm talking about? Nobody knows. It's BustedNews.com. Google Delta Air Lounge.

This nigga bust on everybody. He said he bust on everybody. I'm sorry, Juha. I'm sorry, Juha. I'm sorry, Juwel. Yo, bless y'all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but Juwel, let me be honest. You a good nigga, my nigga.

We love you. We love you, Juwel. Just in case you know this is your home. Thank you, man. That appreciate that. We love you, Juwaz. In case you know, this is your home. Thank you, man. That is called Smoke Champs right there. Come on, man. I already know. I'm tuned into Smoke Champs.

Yeah. So I need to pull up on y'all, too, as well. Because y'all already see it's a baby pandemic going around. This guy is like, he's starting a lot of shit. You know what I'm saying? You got to go up there. Yeah. I set off a lot of fire alarms in my career, too. Let's take the rest of your shot. See, that know what I'm saying? You gotta go up there and... I set off a lot of fire alarms in my career too.

Let's take the rest of your shots. I ain't, see that's what I'm saying. Oh shit, let's do this. This is my thing, Eno. Let me just enjoy this. I enjoy this. Just for the culture. For the culture.

I spoke as many blunts as you like. Come on, the last shot of the day. For the culture. Last shot of the day. For the culture. For the culture. Finish it off. You gotta finish it off.

Uno, dos, tres. I'm gonna high-dive and take a four. Dale, Carlos! Dale! Up. Close enough, baby. Y'all don't know how big that was for me. Now we know because how long it took.

Hey, you. Yeah. One, two, three, four. Yeah, big one. One, two, three, four. Yeah, big one. One, two, three, four. Yeah, big one.

One, two, three, four. Yeah, big one. One, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. for me like now we know because I love it yeah I know where you at right now let's be honest bro be honest you're a good nigga your person I've actually seen from the beginning and I'll actually want to continue this question every wish way shape form or fashion you ever gonna be in this game but I'm

going to continue to support you whether you need my support or not doesn't matter guess what thank you doesn't matter you know what I'm gonna be like this spraying Creed somewhere I'm spraying Creed and smoking Superdome OG everywhere like this cuz cuz I'm a foul nigga like this, like this, like this. I'm spraying cream and smoking Superdouble G everywhere. Like that, cause I'm a foul nigga and smoking gumbo everywhere. No, no, no, I mean, it's definitely gumbo, but we gotta throw this in the mix.

We gonna throw the Can't Fail Your Face shit in the mix. What's the baby's name again? You got the name for the baby? I'm gonna miss the thing. What's the name of the baby? No. It's hot, and whenever a girl asks me, I'm like this, I can't believe my baby

We have a name for that baby yet. It's can't for your face bitch. That's the name of the baby I'm gonna get a name because you would be the honesty I'm gonna let the fans give him a name. I won't let the fans give him a chance. Let's come. We'll come chunchy. Chunchy. Yeah, go ahead. Do that right now. I feel like this nigga's name is Timothee. McVeigh? Timothee, man. Right now, Dream Chicks, we gotta get a Timothee McVeigh. I don't know what a Timothee McVeigh is.

We gonna take a survey right now. What's this guy's name? I think his name is Jose. I think his name is Timothee McVeigh. Hold on, hold on. You have a Timothee McVeigh You playing dumb, you know. Norris won the motherfucking V-Dog. Definitely not that. I'm sorry. Timothy. Yo, Timothy McVay, but just change the spelling.

No, that's crazy. McVaugh. Listen, listen, listen. I'll hold it. All right, I'll hold it. Yo, man, it's twisted. I mean, it's dead. He's boxed up right now.

Because I did not know what I just said. I'm sorry. You didn't know exactly what you said. They said Timothy McVay. He going to get finnick or they... But that says... We can put it in. You can flip it. That just means we blow this shit up.

We the bomb. I'm the bomb. I'm the bomb. I'm the bomb. I'm the bomb. Let's go. Keep going. Y'all, let me get up! Y'all! Y'all! Y'all! Y'all! Y'all! Y'all! Y'all! Y'all! Y'all! Y'all! Y'all!

Y'all! Let's go! Keep going, Timothy McVay! Timothy McVay! Timothy McVay! Timothy McVay Pop, man! And we can't feel our faces. Oh, it's mine, brother.

He stole yours. I'm not going to steal your Timothy McVay, man. Relax. No, no. He's not. He's not. He's not. We got it.

I'm not running with that one, though. I'm telling y'all now. We don't got it. We got to find a new name. We got to find a new one, though. I'm telling y'all now. We gotta find a new name. This is the fifth-rate shoe for us right now. Find a new name for my young ball. Yeah, it's not Timothy Rivera. And that's how you know a nigga ain't pinching your joint.

You see, you gotta rip the bandana. This is very good. You can't pinch that. I can't really pinch that. Don't even look at the t-shirt, bro. Look at that. You already broke it. Oh, my God.

Yeah, you see what I'm saying? I'mma keep my own. Yeah, so you know You know If my gov. YouTube is open, they let me list my gov. team. Let me see, let me see. Let me see, let me see. Alright, cool. Cause this is open. The band air is open. Nah, don't rip it though. No, this is live.

On television. On television. He's open. Oh yeah, that one's open. What are you doing, bro? Open, my baby. Don't do no sex with it bro. This is getting perverted bro. Timothy McVeigh is getting fucked.

Yalla is on one. I finger pop sometimes. From the brain? Oh my brother. You're giving it brain? That's it. Can I get a yalla? You got the yalla. You got the yalla.

You got the yalla. You know I like the smell. Go home for the yalla, man. Go home for the yalla. You know I like the smell. You better like this Puerto Rican beer. I don't know. Mmm.

Esta bueno. Esta bueno. Esta bueno. Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes!

Yes! Yes! You didn't, what was that? Hold on. You fucking Play way too far You figure pop left you but Just well good Twins they're gonna smoke it. You know that's that's a little hand picking

Picky and picky the y'all the y'all are cheese Louise We love you do us antenna it's pretty much That's a merch for you to you ain't got mercy yeah look yeah I can't feel my face We can film it outside too. We can film it in here too. Why you bringing us outside? Let's go outside. Do you want more rosé? That's why I want to go outside. I just want to continue smoking.

But you didn't finish your rosé. I finished my shot. Not really. A little tiny bit. That's $700. I got finished my my shot you can I really Do how these six brothers relax You be out here fucking every day. We watching. We got all the hours. I've been watching you. All the hours. I've been watching you. I love you. I love you.

I love you. Yo, you be living... Yo. And you be living under my brother's name. I respect it. Obviously. You fuck all your brother's archspaces. I respect it.

I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.

I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I'm not respecting none of that. I'm thinking you're fucking your old brother's bitches and I respect that. But it's an agency. He set you up. You're not going to respect Hardy Six for setting you up. He set you up for finger popping. What are you doing? Why are you doing?

Why are you disputing your brother? Hardy 6 got you set up for finger popping your whole lifetime. Just respect your Hardy 6. You can finger pop shit your whole lifetime. I don't know why I just did that. Yeah, stop doing that man. Look, I don't know about this, did that. Yeah, stop doing that man. That's what Coach want.

Look, I don't know about it, but I got my man Yalo up there. Yalo! You want another shot? Yeah, one more shot. You want another shot? One more shot. You don't need no more shots. Nah, I'm good.

I'm taking the ABC's forward and backwards. And you can't say that. And no, you definitely can't. You definitely can't right now. You know what, back to my man. Back to my man. No, no, no. You definitely can't. You definitely can't right now. Back to my thing. Nah, I ain't doing back to my thing. I can't even do that solo, my nigga. Nah, I appreciate you having me, though, man.

Nah, not you, I was. You a good nigga. Let me just be clear. Let me just be clear. You're one of the ghosts. You're one of them niggas. I appreciate it, man. You've been humble.

You ain't been outside. And you've been on leave a little bit too. Back then, back then. Back then. But you back. And let's just talk about that now. And you back then. You've been dominating, loving hip hop. And I pray and I thank God that I just been able to be blessed and be like you said be here be functional and be able to still have something left out there to look forward to I'm saying and I got a beautiful family I mean and I got I got niggas that still want to see a nigga win more than anything gotcha that's we want to see you you guys about managing the gas cuz these suckers they they ain't got nothing on me That's what they think. They really can't they can't hold a

flick of a candle flick of a So you already know there's Morgan it's just time for me to show off your, you heard? Show my ass a little bit, let me steal what the game's been missing, you know what I'm saying? Yes. That's all. Can we make some noise for that? Let's go.

Yo, you know what I need? I need y'all to follow my man on Instagram, right? Look, I can't feel my face, LLC, right? I could feel my face. Go to his story. Every day, he doing something different, like, because he on, like, a world tour right now. You heard? Kill that.

And Earth. Release the energy, please. No, this is about to be crazy with him. He about to be a different type of baby. Like, he about to be a rap star and all that. I'm about to make a song and all that. Know what I'm saying? But, nah, go to his story, check my man out.

Let me hear you on the story acting wild, acting bad every day, all day. Know what I'm saying? You never know who you gonna see him with, what you gonna see my man doing. Know what I'm saying? He just outside like me. We making noise for this nigga?

We making noise for him. We making noise for this nigga? We making noise for him. We making noise for the baby. Yo, there's nothing more for us to do but to bring you up, take some pictures, get some drops. I love you. Dale que tu puede. Dale que tu puede. Dale que tu puede.

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