Drink Champs - Episode 317 w/ Mike Tyson

Episode Date: June 9, 2022

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legendary Iron Mike Tyson! One of boxings most iconic athletes, Mike Tyson became the Undisputed World Heavyweight ...Champion, dominating the sport of boxing. Live from Las Vegas - Tyson joins us and talks about his journey and shares stories of Tupac, Don King, life after boxing and more.  Mike Tyson also talks about his business ventures, Tyson 2.0 and much much more! We are also joined by Marcus Barney founder of The Recession Proof Convention.  Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!! Make some noise for the one and only Mike Tyson!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆   Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com  Follow Drink Champs: http://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps http://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps http://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps  DJ EFN http://www.crazyhood.com http://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy http://www.twitter.com/djefn http://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions  N.O.R.E. http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga http://www.twitter.com/noreaga  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:05 two on the iHeartRadio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast welcome to drink champs a production of the black effect and iHeartRadio And it's Drink Chats motherfucking podcast. Make some noise. He's a legendary Queens rapper. Hey, hey, Segway, this your boy N.O.R.E. He's a Miami hip-hop pioneer. One of his DJs. Together, they drink it up with some of the biggest players.
Starting point is 00:02:39 You know what I mean? In the most professional, unprofessional podcast. And your number one source for drunk facts. This is Drink Champs motherfucking podcast. Where every day is New Year's Eve. It's time for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfuckers. And we got a legend.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Let's respect the legend. Everybody make some noise for Mike motherfucking Tyson. I'm going to be honest. Well, thank you. I didn't expect you either. No, no, no. I'm going to be honest, Mike. Mike, your transition
Starting point is 00:03:16 has been the best transition I've ever seen in life. Tell me about that. My brother started off with a complete Drink Champs intro. Tell me about that. Yeah. My brother, start it off with a complete Drink Champs intro. Let's do it. Complete Drink Champs intro. One of the baddest boxers,
Starting point is 00:03:32 one of the baddest mans, one of the most improved people ever in life. A person that I look up to personally because New York City, we got the best energy in the fucking world. I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 00:03:52 I'm sorry if you're not from New York. Is Miami in the building? But if you fuck New York, you better be known. You know. Is the South in the building? Is the fucking energy in the building? It's a South in the building. It's a South in the building.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I need the South in the building. And I watched every documentary. I watched every... This is the most exciting heavyweight champion ever. Thank you, brother. It's been an honor in existence. Thank you. In case you don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, we're talking about the one and only
Starting point is 00:04:26 Iron Mike motherfucking Tyson! No, no, no, no, no, no! Make some noise! Got it. You know, Recession Proof, I want to thank you. Thank you, man. For putting this together.
Starting point is 00:04:46 For doing what you guys do. For continuing the success of black entrepreneurship. And passing it on. Passing, teaching, educating. But Tyson. I had no idea I was going to come in and see so many beautiful black people. I had no idea I was going to come in and see so many beautiful black people. I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Listen, I had no idea. I thought I was just here with some, I thought I was here to intermingle with these guys and say some really crass stuff. And I see that I'm in front of a bunch of iridescent. I have to conduct myself different, huh? Y'all don't want to hear my shit, do you? All right, so we're going to be very nice, okay? At least I will attempt.
Starting point is 00:05:36 But this is recession proof, Mike. Tell me about recession proof. You got to realize that recession proof means that these are the people who survived when the people that didn't survive couldn't survive. Like Mike has survived. Like Mike. So Mike, let's just be clear, this is Drink Chance,
Starting point is 00:05:55 we real niggas, and we going to keep it straight to the point. The white boys bother you on the flight. Oh shit,, shit. Oh, shit. Let's just keep it real, Mike. I need a drink. I need a drink.
Starting point is 00:06:14 They didn't press charges. That was gangster. I'm going to drink some marijuana. Even though they didn't press charges and I was in the right from a moral perspective. Absolutely. I shouldn't have touched him. No, Mike, we agree that you were right.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Sometimes, Mike. There's boundaries. There's boundaries. I understand. Sometimes you just got to tap a nigga. Sometimes. You know, I'm a recovering junkie and alcoholic. I do inventory every night.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Okay. You know, and I wasn't a good, I didn't pass that well. That's just me. I do inventory. On yourself, on yourself. Yeah, every day. Right, right, right. I get dark.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I can get really dark. So inventory gives me the light. That's real. But Mike, you're a great person. We've seen your struggle. We've seen everything. We watch you. But I don't want to be great.
Starting point is 00:07:10 I know a lot of great people, but they're not good people. Say that again, please. I want to be a good person. Not just great. Great doesn't equal good. No, a great is just doing the hardest shit in the world with the simple of ease. And a lot of people do that. Do the hardest shit in the world like it's nothing.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Because it's easy for them? No, because they've been gifted. Right, they have the gift that makes it easy for them to do that. No, nothing's easy. They have to put in that work. Right, right. They have to dedicate themselves. If they don't, the gift won't work.
Starting point is 00:07:48 The gift only works when you put in that spirit of fighting the will to win. Right. To refuse to lose. The only reason I succeed, I'm like, because I want to be up more than anybody in the world wants me to be down. And that's just what it is.
Starting point is 00:08:09 And I'm just a really competitive, I'm really an animal. I'm the kind of guy, he's put me somewhere, Moscow, he's put me anywhere, and that's what I want to do. I want to compete and see what happens. With no money in my pocket, nothing.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I'm that kind of an animal. For the sport of it. No, for life. That's real, Mike. And at one point, Mike, you had a tiger. I had quite a few. You had a few tigers at one time? Yes. How does that work?
Starting point is 00:08:44 It doesn't work.? It doesn't work. It really doesn't work. How long did it not work? Well, until they got a certain age. Around one year old, you couldn't sleep with all three of them. Oh, they literally slept with you? Yeah. Because we also watched The Hangover.
Starting point is 00:09:01 And in The Hangover, they stole your tiger. And then you beat the white guy up. That wasn't my real tiger. That was... That was... Actors' tiger. Was it based on some reality? Yeah, everyone knows
Starting point is 00:09:11 I had tigers in the past, so they played it off of that. And it's very widespread that Mike is really bizarre when spending his money and I bought a lot of bizarre things. Right. But we like,
Starting point is 00:09:28 as black people, that our ancestry come from Africa. We like that you had a tiger, sir. He had more than one tiger. Yeah, I know. But then that would have to mean our ancestors from India like me because there's no tigers in Africa. He took it legit. They're from India like me because there's no tigers in Africa.
Starting point is 00:09:45 He took it legit, they're from India. Really? Yeah. You lost your ancestry card right there. In France they have a rock painting that's around 40,000 years old. Right. And it's in France.
Starting point is 00:10:10 And at that time France wasn't, it was connected to Africa because in France there's no lions. And they had a lion painting of a lion. Right. Without the mane. So 40,000 years ago the lion didn't have a mane. We're going deep on this. Yes. I'm not going deep lie That's not deep
Starting point is 00:10:26 Just think of Explaining who you are Explain your existence To them Explain who you are Hi my name is DJ EFN I'm a Cuban Miami guy
Starting point is 00:10:37 And Dave Chappelle Called him And Dave Chappelle Called him the Latin Santa Claus And I'm in And I'm out of there Hey hey hey We got the same white beard Yeah I don't think no one Will call him the Latin Santa Claus. And I'm in. And I'm out of there. Hey, hey, hey. We got the same white beard.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Yeah. I don't think no one will call him the Latin Santa Claus, though. No, I would be the Black Santa Claus. Let's go with the Black Santa Claus. Hey, we can join forces and do Santa Claus shit. So, Mike, we came to see you on, um, you came by. Yes, yes, you did. That was a wonderful show.
Starting point is 00:11:03 And I showed up late. Sorry, guys. Yes, but one thing Mike told us, and you made it clear, you said you do boxed. Yes, you did. That was a wonderful show. And I showed up late. Sorry, guys. Yes, but one thing Mike told us, and you made it clear, you said you do not drink. No, no. If I drink, I'm so allergic to this shit.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Every time I drink, I break out of handcuffs and shit. It's crazy, nigga. He didn't just make it clear. He made it deadly clear. Oh, listen. Oh, man, this is just my doom. Hold on, let me put this over here.
Starting point is 00:11:27 And plus, if I drink this shit, I can't fit my pretty clothes. I have to wear my pretty clothes. I just can't do it, man. Too much sugar. So I have to ask, when you were boxing at the highlight of your career, Donald Trump, what's the other nigga with the- Don King. Don King. What's wrong with y'all?
Starting point is 00:11:53 The way you said it, Don and Don, it goes together. Have you ever drank and had a fight? Many of times. Do not tell me the Buster Douglas fight. No, many of times. Do not tell me the Buster Douglas fight. No, many times. Many times I had a fight. Many times. Can you remember a Pacific fight that you had?
Starting point is 00:12:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was in Brooklyn. I had a fight. I don't know. Somebody was bawling and said something to me. And I'm high. I'm on cocaine, so I'll fight for any reason. I could've, I probably started, I probably started the fight probably, right?
Starting point is 00:12:32 Did you just say cocaine? He said, I am. I'm sorry. I just heard that, I'm sorry. You were supposed to. Well, it's the first cousin of drinking, okay? It started with drinking. Let's everybody make some noise for drinking.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Everybody make some noise. Wait a minute, don't you end it in cocaine? That's just how it was back then. Why? Huh? No, I'm saying, wow. That's just how it was, yeah. Oh. So, I... This is how it was, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:06 So I... Please, continue. Because I just watched a documentary called Chasing Tyson. Did you see that documentary? Tell me about it first. What happened? It's a documentary. 30 for 30.
Starting point is 00:13:23 And Vander Holyfield yes it's about him chasing you his whole career to fight him to fight him his whole career and what's weird is
Starting point is 00:13:33 Evander Holyfield lives in my building at this moment he lives in your building and I can never say the best I can never say nothing good to him
Starting point is 00:13:43 every time I see him I'll be like you know know, I just saw Tyson. And he'd just be looking at me like, what the fuck? Like, it's just weird. Every time I see him, I'll be like, and I saw him this morning. I was like, you know, I'm going to interview Tyson. He just looked at me like, what the fuck? And I'm just like, every time I see him, I bring up Tyson.
Starting point is 00:13:59 And I said, this is the weirdest. No, no. You're confused that he's very believe it or not he's very eloquent very respectful and dignified
Starting point is 00:14:10 that's who he really is he also looks at me like this and we tease him because of that and you know what I forgot I forgot we're New York guys sorry I know
Starting point is 00:14:22 you're not a New York guy not at all but every time I say something I feel like I'm representing from're New York guys. Sorry, I know you're not a New York guy. I don't know. But every time I say something, I feel like I'm representing from a New Yorker. And I realize the world kind of hates New York, Mike. I was going to say, we're intrusive.
Starting point is 00:14:38 New York people are very intrusive. And we want them to know that we're tough. That's what anybody say. All my cousins from New York, all of them think they're tough. Yeah, we have that bag. know that we're tough. That's what anybody say, all my cousins from New York, all of them think they're tough. Yeah, we have that bag where they think we're tough. I got to agree with you, Mike.
Starting point is 00:14:51 My partner would agree with you too, but he's not going to agree with you tonight. Why? Why is that? What did I do? Because you're Mike Tyson and no one wants to disagree with Mike Tyson. No, y'all interested. I agree.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I agree. Nah, y'all interested. I agree, I agree. Hey listen, don't make me the idiot by not interacting with me, okay? Has cannabis saved your life? I would think a hundred. I should have been smoking when I was fighting. I was drinking like a feather. What kind of fighter would you have been smoking, honestly?
Starting point is 00:15:22 I would have been such a better fighter. The one time I did fight with cannabis, I broke the guy's back, I broke his cut, busted spleen. His back theonomy? Broke his eye socket, his cheek, his eye into the number. And I was high. You put a number on the guy.
Starting point is 00:15:38 And I was, hey, listen, time. There may be some children in here, and I don't advise you to get high while you're participating in sports. A good way to put it. All right. I might disagree, but I'm not in sports. But to be fair, you were doing other things at that time before you smoked weed. Oh, cocaine, acid, I'm a junkie, I'm a born chiller. So weed would have been the more chill of the things he was doing.
Starting point is 00:16:16 It was too mild, baby. I'm too extreme, so I either, I'm the junkie or I'm the monk. You're one or the other. You're the extreme of each. I'm not a balanced person. No way. No way. I might kill myself if I get balanced.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Shit. Shit. Don't do that, Mike. Oh, God. He talked to himself right now. Don't do that, Mike. No, by the way, this is, I'm so appreciative of the realness. Because you can just look at him, and you can tell.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Mike never fucks around. He's not fucking around. When we came to his compound, what was it? What was the compound at, though? All I remember was him opening, you gave him the Smoke Champs thing. Right. He opened it up, and he gave you the garbage of the Smoke Champs. No, he told me some crazy shit.
Starting point is 00:17:01 And he was like, well, fuck you late, because I came late that day. I want to leave. I was ready to get the fuck out of there. Because do you realize you're intimidating? All right, all right. You think I'm intimidating? Yes. All right, me and my wife are in bed this morning,
Starting point is 00:17:20 and we're talking about Devontae Davis and this Jolie guy, right? Fight tonight. My wife said... In Barcl this Jolie guy, right? Fight tonight. My wife said... In Barclays. Make some noise for the fight tonight. Oh, you got to hear this. You know family members
Starting point is 00:17:34 hate too, right? Right. So me and my wife, I said, Rolie's not going to fucking win. Look at him. I saw him fight. He's not going to beat this guy.
Starting point is 00:17:43 All right? And she said, they didn't think Buster Douglas was going to beat you. Wait, your wife told you that? Oh, shit. This morning. This morning. I said,
Starting point is 00:17:55 that's okay, you're a hater. I said, that's okay, you're a hater, but look at me now. Okay? You know, that's the most beautiful thing about chasen tyson in case you didn't watch this documentary which i watched this this morning was every single victory you admitted and every single loss you admitted the same way but not only do you admit it you actually made fun of yourself you say every time i look at uh holyfield we all gotta look back and say he beat us i thought that was the most amazing thing
Starting point is 00:18:34 ever i'm a great fighter and i'm gonna say um Holyfield's a hell of a fighter. Wow. God damn. Wow. You got to kill him to beat him. He won't fucking quit. Yeah. Motherfucker. Okay, Tyson. And I gotta say something
Starting point is 00:19:09 I gotta I gotta Answer your wife's Question that she said this morning Yeah, do that, please Had you been at top tip top shape There's no way Buster Douglas Could have beat you that night in Japan. Hey, I agree 100%.
Starting point is 00:19:29 But I wasn't in tip-top shape. And that's what it's all about. I love this honesty, man. That's the real deal. I'm going to pop me some Ace of Spades, man. Y'all not going to make noise to me popping some Ace of Spades? With Mike Tyson? No. Why is what the fuck is a mamawana.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Why is it so fancy looking? Listen, I used to be a drink connoisseur. OK, so I need you to connoisseur my drink. I don't know nothing about that one. Tell me that. What's that about? Listen, listen, this used to be ordered. This used to be owned by white people.
Starting point is 00:20:03 What? When you say white people, tell me who, what kind of white people? I don't know. This is just normal white people. Did you make that shit up? The race of whiteness
Starting point is 00:20:13 owned this company, right? You wasn't there when Jay-Z explained. No, I wasn't there. So this was owned by white people. Jay-Z went and tried to buy Chris Stow. Chris Stow was racist. He didn't like their racism. So he went and he bought this company.
Starting point is 00:20:31 When you say racism, did they say, no nigga, you can't buy this? Did they use those exact words? Mike, I have no idea if they said, no nigga, you can't buy this. But I'm going to be honest, Mike.
Starting point is 00:20:44 In my opinion, that's what they said to Jay-Z. no nigga, you can't buy this. But I'ma be honest, Mike, in my opinion, that's what they said to Jay-Z. No nigga, you cannot buy this. So Jay, from Brooklyn. Yes. And he said, I can never be told no. And he went, and he bought a better champagne, a more equivalent champagne,
Starting point is 00:21:03 and this caters to my Kool-Aid tendencies. I love this champagne. It really is a lovable-looking bottle. Don't this shit look good? Yeah. And guess what? Black people, we own this motherfucker. I don't got a stake.
Starting point is 00:21:24 I don't got an ownership. But you know what? I'm going to promote this and I'm going to represent it like it's mine because that's what we should do with all our products as black people. Not as just black people, but as hip-hop people.
Starting point is 00:21:41 When Mike Tyson, I had something, I forget what it was called. It was called, I had your ear. My gum. That was out of hand. I ate them seats like it was a bandage ear for real. Do you have some here?
Starting point is 00:21:56 You can't keep them on the shelf. No, we're going to try to do a million and see what happens. Try to get a million. Out the door. Put them on the shelf to see what happens. Because we can't keep 50,000, 100,000. Wow. Wiped out.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Right. Before the week is over. Well, Mike, we're going to eat them ears up. I have a problem with it. They're too strong. They're too strong. For me. How many milligrams is each ear?
Starting point is 00:22:20 11, 12. It's not microdosing. No, a little, almost micro. Mike doesn't believe in micro. I just learned that backstage. No, you got to do it all. He's like, macro or nothing. You got to do it all to get it all.
Starting point is 00:22:35 He's got me macro mushroom right now. By the way, this is his first time taking a mushroom. You need more. You didn't take the amount you were supposed to take. You bitched out a little. I did, I did, a mushroom. You need more. But you didn't take the amount you were supposed to take. You bitched out a little. I did, I did, I did. I did, I did, I did. By the way, we're on the plane.
Starting point is 00:22:55 By the way, we're loud as hell. I don't know why me and you is loud as hell. But then you say, I'm on mushrooms. We're Latino, bro. Because we're Latino? Yeah. That's pretty racist. You're Cuban, you're Cuban. Yeah. That's pretty racist. You're Cuban.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Yeah, that's pretty racist. I'm Cuban. You're Cuban. Spanish people were just loud? Yeah. That's where they talk about us when we're not around? Absolutely. What do they say about black people?
Starting point is 00:23:14 Are we loud, too? No, y'all, listen. You think, no, we're not loud at all. We're whispering compared to Cubans. Hey, man. That's Cuban. He's a Cuban. Motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Listen. I'm right here. Cuban people is the loudest people in the world. No, I think they're fighting. That's what everybody thinks. Yeah, right? I'm right. I think they're fighting. They're talking about a game. My lady still isn't. She's not Cuban, and she's still not
Starting point is 00:23:39 used to it. She thinks I'm always arguing with her. With these two guys, I have to walk away. They look at me. I told you a long time ago, Tony. She thinks I'm always arguing with these two guys. They start to I have to walk away But it's a conversation for us Now two of the most boxing places in the world, one, Cuba, and Catskills, New York. Custom model. Listen, I don't know if that's the boxing capital.
Starting point is 00:24:22 It's a really small town, but they produce the greatest fighter. Because I know my shit. Thank you. Yeah, you do. Yeah. But how would have been Tyson different had Custom Model been Cuban? Jesus.
Starting point is 00:24:39 What the fuck? Don't call my Cuban up. Just let me go with it. Yeah, I'm dead. That's cool. But you know, fighting's about spirit. If he has the same discipline to ignite my spirit, yeah, he could be successful.
Starting point is 00:24:57 It has nothing to do with racism. Right. Your criteria meets his. That's why. If you have the same criteria, it works. I'm going to grab my blood. That's why. If you have the same criteria, it works. I'm going to grab my blood. Please. So, I think anybody with the
Starting point is 00:25:11 will to win and desire not to lose will succeed. That doesn't mean they're going to be a nice person, but they will succeed if they refuse to give up. If success is more important than your happiness, you make the choice which one you want.
Starting point is 00:25:29 So you're sacrificing something. You make the choice. Right. This is beautiful. Now, I once saw you doing an interview, and you have all your belts, and you look at every one of your belts and you throw them on the floor.
Starting point is 00:25:47 You say, this is what I used to think was my prized possessions. Then the interviewer guy says to you, well what is your prized possessions now? And you know what you say? Absolutely. What do you say? My babies.
Starting point is 00:26:04 You say your kids. What do you say? My babies. Your kids. Yeah. Goddamn. I'm almost crying right now. Well, no, I say that because my kids didn't always like me. Oh, no. I was, I was, I was. Nassim right here right now, that's my son right here.
Starting point is 00:26:22 He works here. I don't think he liked me this morning. I woke him up. I said, nigga, we going right here. He works at... Right there. I don't think he liked me this morning. I woke him up. I said, nigga, we going to interview Mike Tyson. Wake your ass up. And here. When we see our kids,
Starting point is 00:26:34 we see and know what we've been hiding all our life. From them or from yourself? No. It's true. No. We see our flaws in them that we've been hiding all our life right they come out of our children our children embrace it and we're afraid of it you know our time is almost up our expiration date is almost over we have to understand these kids
Starting point is 00:27:06 are different than we are almost a different species of human being my kids are smarter than I've ever been at 10 or 13 I'm like an old model now old and new model that's beautiful
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Starting point is 00:31:52 No, no, no, no. You know what, Mike? Because I'm going to be honest. Be honest? You've been lying all the time. No more. All you lot start being honest now. I'm going to tell you something that shocked the world.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Because we all identify with being black. And being black is sometimes one of the hardest things to be. It's one of the beautiful things to be. But it's hard at times. And then when you're black and then you're gay, it might be even harder. And there was one time you had Boosie on your show.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Oh, shit. And you so eloquently asked Boosie, am I saying his name right, Boosie? Yeah. Am I saying it right? Yeah, yeahie? Yeah. I said it right? Yeah, yeah. And you said, are you gay?
Starting point is 00:32:50 Let me be clear, Mike. Put it into context. It was a conversation. Anybody could ask you, are you gay? When Mike Tyson asks you, are you gay? It's a totally different...
Starting point is 00:33:06 No, we are what we hate. We are what we hate. We are what we hate, man. I don't mean to applaud. That's just what it is. Yeah. That's just what it is. Okay. Yeah. That's just what it is.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Okay. Yeah. I'm sorry, y'all gave me a drink and shit. I don't know if y'all were telling me to shut up or not. You are what you hate, bro. No, no, but when you say that faggot, I'm a faggot, but don't want nobody to know. That's how that goes. Because we all love Boosie.
Starting point is 00:33:48 We all identify with Boosie. But when you said that to Boosie and Boosie looked at you and you looked at Boosie, we all knew Boosie is not going to win this one. No, no. He wasn't going to win.
Starting point is 00:34:02 No, see, you didn't see. You only saw me and him talking. Right. I have a trans daughter. She lives in New York City. She got on a plane from New York, I had no idea, she never even sees me or talks to me. So she comes, and she just comes in my booth or my show like she's some fucking enforcer. Because you told her that you got Boosie?
Starting point is 00:34:29 No, I never told her that. She was there that day? No, she flew that day and came in. Wow. I said, hey, what are you doing here? Hey, chill, chill. And she just went to him. Hey, what's your problem with gay people?
Starting point is 00:34:42 He said something. To Boosie. Oh, she came with that. He said something about Dwayne Wade's son. Right. And so I'm saying, was it that bad for my daughter to come from New York to LA to try to kill this guy, check this guy?
Starting point is 00:34:57 Was it that serious, really? Really, was it that serious? I'm talking to my daughter. I guess it was. Wow. You know? So I'm trying to talk to this man in a way and where he won't say anything
Starting point is 00:35:09 because my daughter's right there waiting for him to say something. My daughter's meaner than me, Jesus. I made a mistake and said a bitch at home one day, she said, don't ever say stop now, what was some crazy shit. Was this when you fell on a scooter?
Starting point is 00:35:30 No, that's the only time I laughed at you, Mike. No, my whole family laughed at me. Yeah, when you fell on a scooter. Before I fell, my daughter said, be careful, Daddy. Boom! And then, next thing I know, my back, I had to go to the hospital, my disc's all fucked up. I can't walk.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Wow. I had to get an operation. But your daughter flew in for Boosie episode. Yeah. First time ever. That was scary. She's really representing the trans, and she did it in a real violent fashion,
Starting point is 00:35:59 and I was just blown away. But it was worked out since then. Bootsy ain't said what. My daughter's big and strong. She was fucking sitting on Bootsy. My family's from the south, man. They're big, strong women. They fight men.
Starting point is 00:36:30 They fight men. Women in my family fight men. She got real just now. I almost never have nothing to say. Let's shift a little bit. We're in Vegas, right? Yes. And I can't help to think about Pac while we're here. And I just want to talk about your relationship with Pac.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Great stories. Let's just talk about positive stories of Pac. I dig, I'm going to tell you about this guy, right? One day we had this, I don't know what happened. It was after, it was just a big party for an event. And it was at, it was on Sunset, what is it, the Palladium. And I was talking to the security guy, I knew him all my life, so we're talking about something,
Starting point is 00:37:18 about a business plan we were doing. And then this little kid comes up, I said, let this kid in. Remember when we were young, we wanted to get in the club. This was a big time club. He'd never dreamed of a club. I said, come on in, shorty. This is in New York?
Starting point is 00:37:28 No, this is in California. In California, okay. It's the Sunset, the Palladium. Okay, okay. And he said, one minute. He went and came back with like 50 people. Tupac? No, this little kid.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Oh, the little kid. And Tupac was one of those guys. So we went to let them in in the back. And some kind of way, they even got on the stage, took the mic, they started rapping. And I met Tupac was one of those guys that we went to let them in in the back. And some kind of way, they even got on the stage, took the mic, they started rapping, and I met Tupac. Six months later, I'm in prison. Wait, six months later, you're in prison? Yes. And I get a call from somebody, it's Tupac's mother, and she explained how she know me from her son.
Starting point is 00:38:05 I let him in the club one night, and he wants to come and visit me. I said, great, okay. And then he came and visited me. Once he came into the, they let him in, and he came to the visiting room. And those are all real. Rikers Island? No, no, no. Ohio.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Indiana. Indiana. These are all hillbilly hick mean arian guy as soon as he came up everybody said so they already oh no no no they respected him they respected him soon as he came in the room they started applauding wow yeah you know when i was off the bat, I had such an ensemble of visitors. I had
Starting point is 00:38:49 everybody. B.B. King, Whitney B.B. King? Yeah. James Brown, Whitney Houston. Yes, everybody came. Florence Henderson. I can't even name them all. There's just so many people came to visit me when I was away.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Let's just keep it real. Tyson, were you having sex in jail? Yes, yes I was. You was? Yes, yes. Conjugal visits? CEOs? No, teacher.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Teachers? Teacher visits, that's a thing? No, I had to go to school to get my GED. Oh, the teacher. Let's make some noise for education. Hey! I don't know. I don't know about education.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I failed the GED twice. That might make me double dumb. The good came out of it. Holy shit. And then, listen. No, listen to this. When I got in sex with her, she got pregnant. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:39:48 I don't know if I want to hear this story. It was crazy, baby. You know there's people out there. Hey guys, I had sex with my school teacher in prison and she got pregnant. We weren't using condoms, okay? And yeah, that was happening. Wow.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Obviously she didn't have it, right? No, no, no. No. Stay in school. Stay in school. He was in school. He was in school. That's what I'm trying to say, stay in school.
Starting point is 00:40:24 I didn't want to leave prison. I used to like it, it was good. I had a good life. That's a bad, not a great message right now. Yeah, I had a good life. When after they all leave my PMO, the helicopter thing, fuck. No, but Mike, let's just be clear.
Starting point is 00:40:44 When you left prison, you left in a private jet. Yeah, yeah. You left with anomalies. Like so many people were outside and so many people... But by the way, you came in prison that way and you left that way.
Starting point is 00:41:00 There's not a lot of... So as artists, Tupac, they say, follow Tupac's legacy. And it's a lie. It's a lie? It's a lie. Meaning, what I mean by that is, go to jail and you'll sell more records. That is not the truth.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Right. So many fighters tried to follow that that blueprint that blueprint that you did and they also failed listen um if I may be permitted to say I just believe that I'm ordained by God everything no you are you are. You are. You are. And I would say that wasn't a blueprint that you even made for yourself. That was your life. No, I just, I don't believe I'm smart enough to navigate myself to the position I am now. It's all done. It has to be all day. There's no way I could fucking do it.
Starting point is 00:42:00 But let's be clear, Mike. Let's talk about this. I don't think I've ever actually heard you actually talk about this, at least in this day and time. Dapper Dan. What about that? That's my buddy of mine. He looks real good now, doesn't he?
Starting point is 00:42:21 Mitch Green. I hear he's a born-again Christian. He's a born-again Christian. He's a born-again Christian. That's why I see him in the paper. Let's show him some love. Yes, he does deserve love. But you gave him an eye jammy this big. Jesus. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:42:37 At one point at Dapper Dan. Yeah, that was really bad. 2 a.m. in the morning. No, it was like 4 or 5. 4 or 5 a.m. in the morning. I would like to listen. Listen, sometimes when you're married
Starting point is 00:42:45 you don't want to fucking go home. Okay? Didn't I know that had anything to do with marriage? Yeah, sometimes you don't want to go home
Starting point is 00:42:55 so you stay the fuck out sometimes, okay? So Dapper Dan, you're at Dapper Dan. Yeah. Mitch Green comes up. He thinks he the baddest. That was a big mistake.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Believe in that. So what happens? I forgot. comes up, he think he the baddest. That was a big mistake, believe in that. So what happens? I forgot. You forgot what happened? This nigga's life is so dope, he forgot when he beat niggas up. It happens. But it was the most famous story in New York City
Starting point is 00:43:22 because these were our two, these were our two underground, vicious motherfuckers. And they- I never looked at myself that way. I just thought I was a good kid. What the fuck you talking about? Good kid, mad city. Bad city, right?
Starting point is 00:43:41 Oh, you didn't know how they thought about you, Mike? Yeah, I know. That's what I wanted to know. Because, let's be clear, Brownsville? Jesus. What's up, Charlie, you okay? Charlie, Charlie. I'm having a good.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Because Brownsville, next to Best Stop? Yeah, that's right. When you think of New York City, let me just be clear. That's East New York, right? I used to get my teeth, I used to get my gold fronts done at Albee Square Mall, and I knew. Oh, y'all know about Albee Square Mall? And I knew at some point I might get robbed.
Starting point is 00:44:21 It just, it's gonna happen. That's how Brooklyn was back then. Yeah, but as I got older in life, I realized this guy can kill a hundred guys, but can't talk his way out of a fucking parking ticket. You know, that's just how it goes. Sorry. It's complex.
Starting point is 00:44:44 It's complex. It's complex. Yeah. Anybody can do that shit. Have you been to Brooklyn recently? I just left last week. Do you know you'll get a cream pie in Brooklyn? At Junior? That sounded terrible. At Junior?
Starting point is 00:44:57 But it's the truth. He's right. At Junior. It's the truth. You'll get a cheesecake in Brooklyn and not just in Junior's. But you getting cream pies? And cream pies. Okay. Be careful. But Brooklyn and not just in Junior's. But you'll get cream pies? And cream pies. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:09 But you'll still get shot, though. You'll still get shot. 100%. Yeah, yeah. You'll get a cream pie, but if you go on the wrong block, Sharmika's still going to shoot you. Yes. Yes, Sharmika's going to fucking shoot you. Have you identified with the new Brooklyn?
Starting point is 00:45:28 Excuse me, the new Brooklyn? Yeah. Have you went to solo? The gentrified Brooklyn. Yeah, the really gentrified. The gentrified. You know, I'm cool. You know, I'm cool being with people that's saddled and not civilized and not savages anymore.
Starting point is 00:45:46 I would have to go from that transition. So it's good to see other people go through that transition. Right. And you drink. But hold up. As a guy from Brooklyn, right? And I know that you wear Brooklyn on your sleeve. Having that
Starting point is 00:46:03 relationship with Pac, and then what happened with Biggie, recipes to both of them. Great question. How did you feel in that turmoil that they had? I thought it was ridiculous. And that's what it was. It was two people into their feelings too much.
Starting point is 00:46:23 You couldn't just say, hey, it's over, fuck it, poof. Did you know that yourself at that moment, in your space that you were in? I knew it was going to end really bad. I just knew that. I knew it wasn't going to end nice. Right. And it didn't.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Because you had a relationship with Big? Yeah, I met Big one time and he came to my house for a party. I had a party in my house. You had tigers? They were out in the back, yes. Okay. To be clear.
Starting point is 00:46:52 He liked the house, but then he started talking to me, hey, do you know China Man? He told me you and him used to fly pigeons. And yeah, that's one of my oldest friends in the world. I knew him when I was eight years old. And Big knew your oldest friend in the world, the China man who flew pigeons. Yes. Holy moly guacamole. He knew those guys I grew up with named Fame
Starting point is 00:47:09 and all the shit up the hill, Brooklyn. Yeah, he knew all those guys. And also had a relationship with Suge Knight. Yeah, I knew all those guys. You knew them all. Suge Knight, Big, Puffy. Yeah, and listen. East Coast, West Coast. How the fuck did Mike Tyson never get Knight Big Puffy East Coast West Coast
Starting point is 00:47:26 how the fuck did Mike Tyson never get caught up in the East Coast West Coast beef or did you cause is everybody just scared of you is that the problem
Starting point is 00:47:32 no one's scared of me I treat people the way I want to be treated has nothing to do with fear but as rappers that was as an East Coast rapper, New York, Queens, New York, that was probably the worst time of my life. Really? Going through the East Coast, West Coast thing because...
Starting point is 00:47:58 Which wasn't a real thing. It wasn't a real thing, but I could never actually identify and say that it wasn't a real thing. I couldn't say that because the two big dogs was Tupac and Biggie. And when Tupac and Biggie wasn't existing no more, it was hard to say that this beef that we are talking about doesn't exist. It really was a blink of my eye. They're not here no more. more what we talking about don't mean real talk all day real talk real talk we all have an expiration date yes but we still live like we still act as if we live forever right and that's just the way it is. Because I just don't think death is bad.
Starting point is 00:48:46 I did all the special animal and tree and plant medicine. I did all of them on the water. I did everything. The highest psychedelics in the world. Ayahuasca? You did ayahuasca? The toad. Ayahuasca is not the highest.
Starting point is 00:48:58 You don't like ayahuasca? It's overrated. Overrated? Overrated, yeah. Okay, Mike, no one has never said ayahuasca is overrated. I wanted to go to Peru with a shaman and do the whole ayahuasca thing. Ayahuasca is the shit that you about to die, right? You take it and you're going to die.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Your ego dies. Your ego dies? Yes, and then you're afraid. And you can't do it in America. You got to do it in Peru. They have shamans. You're snitching here all the time. They have shamans. Yeah, yeah, you're snitching on yourself right now. No, they have shamans here too.
Starting point is 00:49:27 But until they find me. Listen, catching comes before hanging. They got to catch me. I feel like we got to make some noise with that. Hey! So OK. Peyote too? You do peyote?
Starting point is 00:49:40 That's not powerful enough for me. What? We just seen Will Smith go on. Go on David Letterman. Talk about ayahuasca. What's that? He did an ayahuasca trip. He said that's what he did before he thought about slapping Chris Rock. The way you put it was not the way he said it.
Starting point is 00:49:57 He didn't say I did ayahuasca before I slapped Chris Rock. No, I definitely fucked this up. I fucked it. But what I'm saying is it related to, and what he said was, he said he saw his money flying away from him. He saw his life flying away from him. Is that something that you do when you do ayahuasca? Because I'm interested in doing it.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Listen, um. We could do it tomorrow, right here. I'm into it. This is the stuff that you really can't articulate. My brain isn't sophisticated enough to articulate that. That's some divine shit that I can't explain. Okay. That's just the real deal.
Starting point is 00:50:33 That's real. And Will Smith, he's at a level of life that's really mind-boggling right now, but no one even knows it. Yeah, no. No one even knows it. No, that's real shit. So let's move on for a second, Mike. One of the illest characters we've ever seen in boxing, and I don't think we'll never see another character in boxing again like this character,
Starting point is 00:51:02 is Don King. Listen. Listen, oh, excuse me. There's going to always be another Mike Tyson or Don King. You think God only made one of us to exist? No, there's only one Mike. No, that's not true. There's more that come out.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Listen, there's more people in Brownville. Once they learn discipline, they can do anything. They're superseding me. That's just real talk. I wasn't an animal until I realized what
Starting point is 00:51:35 discipline was. Discipline was doing what you hate to do, but do it like you love it. Consistently. Consistently, yeah. Consistently. Consistently, yeah. Consistently. Because I'm watching every documentary.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Like, you know, us being privileged to have this interview, I watched every documentary. And I watched the ups and downs of you and Don King, right? But the one thing I always seen was Don is a great talker.
Starting point is 00:52:11 But he also made a lot of money. Was it worth the relationship, him making the money for you? Or him being this, eventually finding out that this guy is a terrible guy? I don't think he's a terrible guy. I think he's an awesome guy. I just think that he, I like to keep to myself what I think.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Was he a guy of the times? Does that make any sense? The guy of the times. He's just who he is. That's just what it is. He's who he is. Like me. I'm not malignant or anything.
Starting point is 00:52:47 I'm just Mike. Right. I have the perception of being a violent person, but I'm not. It's just life's perception. There's nothing more we can say. Goddamn it. It's beautiful. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:53:04 I'm back. There's nothing more we can say, goddamn it. It's beautiful. I watch every documentary, and I want to tell you, Tyson, face to face, man to man, not just only as a black man, not just only as a New York man, not just only as a person who went through everything, everyone always doubted me for my whole life. I identify, I relate to you in the beautifulest way. And I want to tell you, thank you. And I feel like everyone here wants to tell you thank you.
Starting point is 00:53:41 And let's give him his roses, bro. Yeah, I feel like everyone here wants to tell you thank you. And let's give him his roses, bro. Yeah, I feel like everyone here wants to tell you thank you. And I'm going to tell you why. And I'm going to tell you why. I'm going to tell you why. Because it's not just because. Your guy's smoking blunt. If I had that joint for me, nobody would offer me.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Come on, smoke blunt, motherfucker. You got smoke champs here? Come back to Braille. You got some blunt here? Yeah, there's a blunt in there, yeah. But let me ask, that's organic, though. Well, can I have a blunt? Yes, you can have a blunt.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Yes. Come on, come on, Tyson. But let me finish picking you up, though, Tyson. And give me flowers, bro. I just, and more of your flowers. Because you know why, Tyson? I'm going to tell you something. Oh, this is a blunt.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Yeah. Smoke champs, baby. You back in Brownsville, baby. But organic Brownsville. We got smoke champs. We got gumbo. We got it all. You in new Brownsville, baby. But organic Brownsville. We got smoke chips, we got gumbo, we got it all. You in New Brownsville. But let me just tell you why.
Starting point is 00:54:28 I feel like every person in this audience has faced the same diversity that you faced. They might have not been able to get over it in the way you have done, but they will. And I feel like that's what being a heavyweight champion is, is knowing that we can never reach your level, but thinking that we can. No, that's not how it goes. You can always reach my level.
Starting point is 00:55:08 You know, my level is, listen, I don't know who I am right now. If I know who I am right now at this stage in my life, my thinking would be pretty limited. I don't know who I'm going to be. You're still growing as a person? No, my thinking is growing. I don't know who I'm going to be when I'm 75 growing as a person? No, my thinking is growing. I don't know who I'm going to be when I'm 75 or 80.
Starting point is 00:55:28 I'm not going to be the person I am now. Right. It's just that we have to prepare for our expiration day. And the objective of doing ayahuasca is for people who are afraid of dying. And so that's what the plant medicine and the animal medicine is for, preparing us to go to death with dignity. Not for growth? You don't think that's for growth?
Starting point is 00:55:49 Death is growth. Or the end of growth. Or the beginning of it. The beginning. We don't know. And this is why I love recession. Let's give this man his flowers, bro. Let's give him his flowers, man. Let's go, man. Let's give him his flowers. Please. Please. I don't Thank you. thank you, thank you.
Starting point is 00:56:28 As you know, I guess you wouldn't know the lingo because you guys are really heavy drinkers, but when you expressed you had flour to give me, I thought you were talking about cannabis. We got cannabis too? We're gumbo, you ain't giving me gumbo? Gumbo, you ever gave me the gumbo? I don't believe that.
Starting point is 00:56:44 I haven't seen that in my life yet. Oh, you haven't seen that? I haven't gave you the gumbo? I haven't seen that in a while. Oh, you haven't seen that in a while. I gave you the gumbo too, baby. I'm very grateful, very grateful, thank you. We outside, listen, listen, listen, I'm going to be honest, Mike. We will never have the greatest heavyweight champion,
Starting point is 00:57:03 but let's just be clear, because I feel like you're humble, so you was about to stop me. But we will never have the greatest heavyweight human being that you have become ever again. Because, thank you.
Starting point is 00:57:21 I'm going to tell you why. We got a group chat with every motherfucking black media motherfucker in the world. And I like to critique the motherfuckers. I like to sit on them. And when that incident happened, every single person said, Mike,
Starting point is 00:57:47 has to be cleared. And it wasn't Mike has to be cleared because Mike is this. It was Mike has cured himself. Next time Mike touched somebody, he might get killed. That got scary. That's got scary. That's the real deal. But Mike, let's just be clear.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Let's just love each other and talk about nice things. We love you. That's what this is about, Mike. You turn to some other shit. But Mike, that's what this is about. Let me just tell you something, Mike. Me and my wife, we used to say, poof, everything that just happened doesn't exist anymore.
Starting point is 00:58:31 But let me say something, Mike, I'm going to be honest, and I'll be like, because I know I'm probably old. I'm old. Tell me about old. I'm 44. You're 10 years younger than me. And listen, and why do you feel all old? But let me just be clear. Let me just tell you why.
Starting point is 00:58:48 Because my... Not why I feel old, but let me just tell you why I love you. No, no, no. I want to talk about old. I can't get back to old, baby. No, no, no. Let me just say something.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Some of the best times of my life is watching Michael Jordan beat the Knicks, which I hated because I'm from New York City, and watching Mike Tyson knock niggas out in 13 seconds. Well, Michael Jordan is from New York.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Originally? Yeah. Yes, Michael Jordan is from New York. He's from Brooklyn. I didn't know that. Originally. Me and him born in the same hospital.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Wow. Born in the same hospital. Spike Lee too. Spike Lee. Me and Big Un born on the same day, same time. Our mothers must have
Starting point is 00:59:37 met because they had the babies the same moment. They were together, yeah. What the fuck? Isn't that crazy? A lot of shit happened in there. New York City, nigga!
Starting point is 00:59:45 That's real. That's real, but I'm going to be honest, Mike. My father was a boxer. Were you lying all this time? No, no. My father was a boxer. My father was a boxer. I used to box in a gym called the Lost Battalion.
Starting point is 01:00:06 I was never good. In Queens? Yes, in Queens, motherfucker. And guess what, EFN? We used to hear about this legendary figure. Sick chick. Sick guy, man. Custom model.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Yes. Was a frequent person that came there. My father loved custom model. But when they spoke about this guy and what's crazy about Mike
Starting point is 01:00:41 still to this day is you're a beast in the ring. You're a gentleman in real life. I like to believe that. You are that, man. Thank you. I like to believe that. I like to believe that.
Starting point is 01:00:58 You know, I have a wife and I have a daughter, and they like keeping me in check that I'm a human being. I've realized they got you in check. You are. You are. My wife is back there. She got me in check that I'm a human being. I've realized they got you in check. You are human. My wife is back there. She got me in check, too. I'm going to be honest. Mike, let me ask you this real quick, though. What impact has hip-hop had for you during your career and life,
Starting point is 01:01:19 like generationally, like the generations of hip-hop in the 90s versus now, like what has hip-hop done for you, the music, the culture? Hip-hop gave me pride because that's our music. You know, when it first came out, everybody was like, oh, shit, even my parents, oh, that's disgusting. That's disgusting. Oh, my God, you're just going to go to prison and jail. The cops are going to arrest you.
Starting point is 01:01:48 And I used to always, after training, having a couple of fights, must have won the nationals when I was young, 14, 15. I always come home to see visit. I go right to Latin Quarters. That was my spot, Latin Quarters. Latin Quarters on 56th Street? Yeah, right there. But you must have been a kid at that point.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Huh? You was a kid. Yeah, but when I went there, all the kids that I used to hustle with and rob with, they were there. But I had stopped doing that. But they're still my friends. Right. So that's why I always had that connection. You may see me with certain guys.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Mike shouldn't be with that guy. But this guy used to live in my building. We went to school together. Yeah, so that became a really serious problem. They see me hanging out with these weird guys. They say, who are these guys? I say, this guy got my sister pregnant. This guy lives in the same building as me. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:39 I don't think they're no gangsters. They're not scary to me. Right. But I think society thinks different. And we talk about the tunnel days. Ah! Did I get Mike hyped? I'm sorry. You got Mike hyped.
Starting point is 01:02:53 The tunnel days, speed. Ooh. That was our youth, huh? Yeah. When K-Slate died and Rest in peace to K-Slate. And I said, fuck, that was my youth. Rest in peace to K Slade. Yeah, and... Biz, I said, fuck, that was my youth. Rest in peace to Biz.
Starting point is 01:03:07 I'm not going to lie, Tyson. He used to always go there. He was DJ at Latin Quarters. I used to be the little nigga around, but every time you came around, I definitely avoided you. I was scared to death of you. I always loved you, though.
Starting point is 01:03:19 No, I wasn't famous back then. No, nigga, I always... Listen, I knew about you before you became... I knew about all those niggas. Are you going to pick me up? You picking me up? Nah, nigga, I always knew business. I knew about you before you became, I knew about all those niggas. Are you going to pick me up? You picking me up? Nah, nigga, I'm telling the truth. That's because of Tyson picking me up, goddammit.
Starting point is 01:03:31 That's why I was premature. He was getting to that. No, but I used to go, let me just tell you something. It was so beautiful to see the heavyweight champion of the world in New York City. No, I was the hip-hop champion, nigga.
Starting point is 01:03:46 That's what... No. Yes. I am the champion in the hip-hop era for me. It's facts. But I thought he was bigger than the hip-hop. I was the champion. No, the hip-hop...
Starting point is 01:03:54 Listen, this is the deal, right? This is facts what he said. This is facts. Guys like us, we're never bigger than hip-hop or boxing because that gives us a great platform. I just tweeted out, no one's bigger than the culture. And that's what I was going to ask him.
Starting point is 01:04:09 I was going to ask him, did you know that although you were an athlete, although you were in boxing, did you know how hip-hop you were? Absolutely. What you were to the culture. Yes, I listened to the music all day while I was training. Right. Before I go to bed.
Starting point is 01:04:24 It just became who we were. Hip hop created a new species of person. And that person was embodied in Mike Tyson? And him, and you, don't put it all on me. And him, and him, and those guys like that. Everybody over there. It was a sexy thing. And that's what it is And that's what it is.
Starting point is 01:04:47 That's what it is. It created a new species of human being. Yeah, really. And we say that. We say that all the time. We actually say that. I mean, I'm going to be honest. I'm sorry. I was being honest the whole time.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Okay. Are you lying right now? No, but doing the research, you know, doing the research and just sitting back and saying, damn. We had the greatest heavyweight champion of all times. And we still have the greatest heavyweight champion of all times. And when I say we,
Starting point is 01:05:27 I do mean New York City. I do mean Brooklyn. I do mean Queens. I do mean, but you know what I also mean? I mean hip-hop. I mean for all of us, the country. I mean our culture. The culture, the country, everybody, the world.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Everything that the country possesses, America possesses, hip-hop, entrepreneurs, businessmen, billionaires, criminals. You know what I mean? So listen, I'm going to say this to you. When hip-hop first started, when it first started in the early 80s, and you look at the top 20 hip-hop stars,
Starting point is 01:06:02 they've all been locked up. Now these guys have been in private schools. All these guys, you know, the top 20 hip hop stars, they all been locked up. Now these guys have been in private school, all these guys, you know, they have tutors. You were tutors, bro? No, I did three and a half years in jail, though. Yeah. That's real. Yeah, but you look at a guy like Topher.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Spoffy, because you was in Spoffy. Absolutely. That's why I met my soul, Muhammad Ali, in Spoffy. You met Muhammad Ali? Muhammad Ali came to talk to the kid, and I said, wow, I want to be like him. When I was 12. What unit you was in, you remember? A3.
Starting point is 01:06:32 I was in D3. A3, yeah. You were the big boys, though. D3 was like the older. I was a shooter. Yeah, you were a bad kid. I was a foul nigga, Mike. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:06:43 That's why you were in A3, man. Bad child. I apologize. Everybody, like when I first went to Spar kid. I was a foul nigga, Mike. Yeah, I know that's why you're 83 now. Bad child. I apologize. Everybody, like when I first went to the spa, I was so scared. And then when I went to the lunch, yo, Mike, yo, Mike, yo, Dirty Ike, Dirty Ike. I saw them, I thought they were dead. I said, this is where you've been.
Starting point is 01:06:56 You've been here. Fuck, I thought you were dead. Dirty Ike. Dirty Ike. I thought these guys were, so then once I knew what my whole neighborhood was, I kept going, kept going. He was like, Ike. I thought these guys were... So then once I knew what my whole neighborhood was, I kept going and kept going. He was like, Ike. Yeah, I kept going.
Starting point is 01:07:09 And then one day I saw Muhammad Ali. I said, wow, I want to be like him. As soon as I got transferred to the next facility, it was a gentleman named Bobby Stooter who used to be an ex-professional fighter. And he started teaching me how to fight. And prison. Yeah, an institution.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Institution. I was a young kid. Right. Upstate. And they said, I'm going to introduce you to a gentleman that's going to take you
Starting point is 01:07:29 to the next level. And that was Customado. Mm. Applause It's such a beautiful story every time you hear about you, Customado, Catskills, because...
Starting point is 01:07:44 The thing about New York is New York, we're right here. But then it's another like little place that's still New York. It's the state of New York. It's New York State. Come on, guy. That you can either go to jail there. Well, listen, that's funny that you said that. 385, 9W, straight all the way to Kasaki, all the jail up there. All that road.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Yep. On that road. On that road. So you could either go to jail there or train there. Yes, yes, you're right. And you chose the train there. After I did time. I totally forgot that. After I did time. I totally forgot that part.
Starting point is 01:08:25 After I did time. I totally, but... How is that? Like, how is that period of... Because New York at this time is... Albie Square Mall is... Chain snatching, taking niggas motorcycle.
Starting point is 01:08:47 It's even taking pocketbooks at this time. Bum rush in the store. Yeah, bum rush in the store. That's why we're busting rush at the jewelry store all the time. Jesus, Mike, my bad. That sounds like right now, guys. You know New York is bad again. Really?
Starting point is 01:09:00 The country, everything's bad. Oh, you haven't been back? I've never been treated bad. No one's going to treat Mike Tyson bad. You're good, everything's bad. Oh, you haven't been bad? I've never been treated bad. No one's going to treat Mike Tyson bad. You're good, you're good. Listen, somebody's on drugs, they don't even know I'm Mike Tyson. No, I think they do. You know, that reminds me, because there was somebody, we see footage of somebody who says, Mike, we love you.
Starting point is 01:09:23 And I'm going to tell you something. Guy goes, Mike, we love you. And then he has a gun on him, right? But he moves out the way. And I'm going to tell you what I did. I called my Uncle Wise. Shout out to Uncle Wise. Shout out to my Uncle Wise.
Starting point is 01:09:41 And I told my Uncle Wise, I said, yo, Uncle Wise, those have been my fans, the same exact fans for years. If you listen to my fans, my fans have always come up to me like, what's up, nigga? They mad aggressive. And if you actually look at their gestures, it is not right.
Starting point is 01:10:04 But if you listen to what they're saying. It's all love. It's all love. They're saying, what's up, nigga? I did a bid to you, even though that's fucked up. Why are you telling me you did time to my music? Don't like it. We all express love differently.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Love is love. Even though he expressed that love pretty crash, you understood everything he said. But you didn't even move, Mike. He said, Mike, I love you. You, he's pretty crash. You understood everything he said, but you didn't even move Mike He said he said Mike. I love you. You won't like that. I was too high. It was too hot The fucking comedian Bob David often this guy's standing in front of the comedians talking shit. I love you you my man I said what the fuck are you doing? What are you doing?
Starting point is 01:10:46 And this other guy starts, get the fuck out. Then he pulls out the gun. I'll kill you, nigga. You know, that type of shit. I said, my friend, come here, give me a hug. Just chill out, just be cool, it's okay. It's okay. It's okay, man, it's okay.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Did you see the footage? No. Oh, listen, homeboy pulled out a gun. Tyson said, come here, let me give you a hug. No, no, listen. The world needs more of that. Listen, I can look at the gentleman that I knew he didn't want to hurt me.
Starting point is 01:11:13 I've dealt with people like that too. You already knew what time it was. I knew that too. I've dealt with people that wanted to hurt me. Right, you knew what time it was. Okay, so I knew he didn't want to hurt me. And he kept saying, Tyson, you a legend, but fuck this nigga.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Yeah. You so fucking, you Tyson, you a legend, but fuck this nigga. He was so ugly. You cool, you cool, fuck you. He was like, yeah, and Tyson, you dealt with that shit in a way where I was like, damn. Nah, nigga, I'm possessed with so much fucking love, man. That one nigga's want to kill himself. Hold on, hold on, hold on. There's this famous clip.
Starting point is 01:11:47 I mean, you lived the clip. You was there. Arsenio Hall's show, when he showed love, I think it was Sugar Ray. Muhammad Ali. And who else? Muhammad Ali. There was a third person there.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Sugar Ray Leonard, Muhammad Ali, and what was it? No, it was them three. No, he was the one showing love to them. Yes. Like. And then they asked him if Muhammad Ali would fight him in his prime. But this is the thing, this is the thing. The idea that that is passed around today, that clip, as an example.
Starting point is 01:12:19 And I just want to say, what is that an example of to you? Never mind what we think that is an example of. What is an example of to you? Never mind what we think that is an example of. What is an example of to you what that clip represents? The student giving respect to the master. That's exactly what I would have said. Definitely. And it was so evident and so dope. You know,
Starting point is 01:12:45 again, I want to reiterate. No, I want to reiterate. I saw that nigga at 12 when I'm here talking to you. What'd you say? I saw Ali when I was 12 years old. Wow.
Starting point is 01:12:59 And my whole life. I'm here talking to you now. What? Rich and all that shit. What? Just looking at somebody. Ali? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Yeah. Fighting from fucking distant. Wow. I'm serious, nigga. And spoffing. And it changed life. Yeah. Some divine shit.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Yeah. Yeah. Scary, right? You look at it and they go, no. Why? Why? Why? The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network.
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Starting point is 01:14:28 Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And it's going to take us to heal us. It's Mental Health Awareness Month. And on a recent episode of Just Heal with Dr. J, the incomparable Taraji P. Henson stopped by to discuss how she's discovered peace on her journey. So what I'm hearing you saying is healing is a part of us also reconnecting to our childhood in some sort. You said I look how youthful I look because I never let that little girl inside of me die. I go outside and run outside with the dogs. I still play like a kid.
Starting point is 01:15:06 I laugh, you know, I love jokes. I love funny. I love laughing. I laugh at myself. I don't take myself too seriously. That's the stuff that keeps you young and stops you from being so hard. To hear this and more things on the journey of healing,
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Starting point is 01:17:57 You don't like this guy having the tattoo? I love that guy. No, listen, I'm so happy. Listen, that's just part of my whole whatever you think it was, this change shit, that movie. Because by that time, most of the people that saw me at the beginning of my career, what involved my career, it died. Wow. So now a different, it was just a different time
Starting point is 01:18:21 and a different element of people that never knew me as a fighter and knew me as an actor and stuff. And it's pretty humbling. I went to a high school, and the teacher, the president, had a screen showing the kids some of my fights because they never saw me fight. They thought I was an actor. Yeah, and that was really humbling.
Starting point is 01:18:44 And one of the kids said I think my grandfather told me about you oh shit that was humbling oh shit these little 9th grade motherfuckers most kids don't know I rapped before neither they just say you you podcast, nigga.
Starting point is 01:19:05 So I just. You gotta make a Moana movie, bro. Yo, listen, I'm not gonna lie, man. Recession proof, and you been sitting here humbly. Nah, he's humbling me. You haven't been saying nothing. No, listen. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:23 And Mike, I'ma like your joint, Mike. I'ma like your joint, Mike. I'ma like your joint, Mike. Why you sit there and not talk to us? Why you didn't hang out? Nah, listen, I'm on here with legends. I'm happy to be here. Yo. I'm taking it in the moment.
Starting point is 01:19:34 With you and everybody here, man. Because I'ma say something one more time, because our show has always been about giving people their flowers, and it will always be about giving people their flowers. It is. Because it takes nothing for me to give someone else their props. And I want to say to Recession Proof, I want to say to Mike motherfucking Tyson. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Hell yeah. How much we fucking appreciate your motherfucking ass. Well, thank you how much we fucking appreciate your motherfucking ass Oh, shit. God bless. And I'm a mafia. I'm a mafia. You're a mafia? I'm a mafia mobster fan. I'm a mafia mobster fan. But when you talk about where we at right now and where we sitting at,
Starting point is 01:20:39 this man built Las Vegas. Yes. Las Vegas. Black people, we didn't come to Vegas to see the mob. We came to fucking Las Vegas to see motherfucking
Starting point is 01:20:56 Mike fucking Tyson. Thank you. And when you see them Sherlins and you see them big coats, yeah, we knew we was hot. We knew we was hot. What a beautiful time to live. But it was a fucking beautiful time.
Starting point is 01:21:14 What a beautiful time to live, yeah. And we came, and we lost our money every time because you knock niggas out in three seconds. And no one was interested about losing our money. I had to train one time to go watch a fight and I was like, fuck.
Starting point is 01:21:30 You did not. This nigga couldn't wait for me? That was just my platform, brother. That was just my platform. He was like, what the fuck? I was like, damn, Mike.
Starting point is 01:21:40 I wish I had your phone number back then. Like, can you wait like 13 seconds? I got to crush the phone number back then. Like, can you wait like 13 seconds? I got to crush the world on my feet. But now you smoking cannabis and chill, you take your time. And shrooms.
Starting point is 01:21:53 And by the way, that smells fucking, what is that? That's smoke chairs? Oh shit! Smoke chairs? That is a smoke chair! I had no idea! And you got that gumbo too, y'all, right? Yes, I did receive that gumbo.
Starting point is 01:22:06 We got smoke, Chaz, and gumbo. My job is done. So tell me. Yes. You going to ask me a question? Can I please? Yes, because you know I did hot box with Tyson. This is a lot of fucking calories, man.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Cannabis or calories? Calories, guys. Calories? Yeah, we're fat. I ain't going to lie. I only drink this shit. I drink this shit and I drink this. When I drink, I always have to lose 50 pounds before a fight. 50 pounds?
Starting point is 01:22:37 I'm a pig. I'm going to be honest, Tyson. I want to train with you, but I be seeing that the people who hold your boxing gloves And they don't look they're having a good time You'd be surprised how easy it is to share highest potential Cuz I would like to come and like spend two months with you train. Let's do it. We'll film it I'm in but I feel like I'm I feel like now you can do it. I believe in you. Let's go It might not be the best thing. No, it's going to be the best thing in the world for you.
Starting point is 01:23:05 It's going to be the best thing? Yeah, yeah, we're filming, let's do it. We're going to do it right? Everybody's going to do it? Yep. I feel like my wife, I feel like everyone's going to say, go ahead, go stay with Tyson. But I feel like Tyson might be,
Starting point is 01:23:18 you might be making me eat oatmeal at 8 a.m. No, oatmeal will cause you to be fat. No oatmeal? No. So what is Tyson's regimen? Because I feel like you're a.m. No, oatmeal will cause you to be fat. No oatmeal. No. So what is Tyson's regimen? Because I feel like you're vegan now. No, I'm vegan-based. I eat meat as well.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Oh, you're vegan-based. I don't even know what that means. How does that work? No. That is bad. I mean, most of my food is vegetables. And then you slaughter a pig? No, I don't eat any animal.
Starting point is 01:23:46 But I might eat a goat or a... Oh, so some animals. Yeah, a bison. Okay, there's animals. Anyway, that's just how I eat. I have to have the leanest meat. Hey, but that's Tegan. Tegan?
Starting point is 01:24:02 Tyson vegan. Oh, Tegan, my man. That's a new diet, bro. I think we can make, let's write the book. Hey, we all Tegan now. We're session proof, we write a new book. We vegan, Tegan. But we Tegan. Tyson vegan.
Starting point is 01:24:14 If you're Tegan, then that's gonna be the right success. That's the new diet, Tegan. To become a beautiful, yeah. Are we down? Nope. One, two, three. Tegan. Don't eat it.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Don't do it man. This hardcore stuff, man, you might as well stay that way. Stay, stay, stay fat. Stay hardcore, man. If you do a 30 days without eating, this is part of the club. I did 40 days without drinking recently. That's better than not eating.
Starting point is 01:24:47 And it was really nice. My wife didn't really like me that much. Listen, my best friend the same way. When he stopped drinking, I didn't like his personality. What? No, when he's drinking, he's talking mad shit. When he's not drinking... So you're like the shit talker of him.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Yeah, because that's his spirit. I don't want to see him depressed, down, and giving up. I understand that. I think that's drink champs encompassed. He pulled my card just now. That's the drink champs. He pulled my card. This guy could light this whole fucking place up with some liquor in them if you don't have no liquor you won't know he exists
Starting point is 01:25:28 That's how my friend Sonny is Look at Sonny. Look at Sonny Is he got a little black bush Matt Bush. And from Haiti, people like from Haiti too. Haiti in the building, Haiti in the building. You need Haitian people? Stop all saying. No listen, listen. Listen, I was doing, I did a movie with Sean Penn.
Starting point is 01:25:55 I'm at my trailer, right? Damn, the sun is. And I had no idea. I'm talking to my friend Haitian Toby, and this man know I got five foot. Eh, what about the buh buh buh buh? Me got the funny little ball buh bu four. Hey, what about the ball? What the fuck are you saying?
Starting point is 01:26:10 I'm sick of talking. I ain't I ain't I blew my mind. Let me ask you something. Because we've all been global but you are heavyweight champion global.
Starting point is 01:26:27 Of the world. Of the world. What's your favorite country you visited? America. Are you a nationalist in that way, though? No. No, because in this country, you have to suffer for success. Right country you have to suffer for success. Right.
Starting point is 01:26:47 You have to suffer for it. So that's why I say this is the best country in the world because you could be an idiot and come here and work hard and become a billionaire. So do you feel like... No, I don't use that word being the jerk. No, no, I know. I didn't say you could be an idiot and be a billionaire. No, you just say you could work hard.
Starting point is 01:27:06 No, no, no, he didn't say if you work, you can make it. No, no, I'm saying this. When I explain idiot, because in order to be a master, first you have to be an idiot. But I'm not saying an idiot is getting used to this. Everybody starts as an idiot. No, only an idiot would want to be a master. I'm fucked saying it is every start as an idiot. Let's just know no only an idiot want to be a master I'm fucked up right now. He killed that
Starting point is 01:27:29 Just make noise for it Let me ask you let me ask us I'm watching every documentary I'm watching all your fights because I wanted to be a good journalist and one thing that I kept noticing that kept seeing was Trump Plaza right and I'm people more fights than anybody but he wasn't racist back then back then who was he how do you define racism and I mean the fun back then when you say that a Mexican or mexicans is racist i define that as racism right because he said every one of the mexicans and i i i was offended of that when he made that statement i was offended of him putting you know certain
Starting point is 01:28:21 children in what's those, the little blankets? What the, um, the shit? I thought... But just to be fair, it wasn't him necessarily. But I thought that was racism. It was his administration. But when I look back
Starting point is 01:28:34 and I see Russell Simmons, I see Mike Tyson, I see Puff Daddy, the person that we still doing business, we doing business with him right now. And I ask them and they say, well, he wasn't like that back then him and they say well he wasn't like that back then
Starting point is 01:28:46 well listen he wasn't like that because he was giving them free rooms and giving them free tickets of course he wasn't like that because you wouldn't you wouldn't afford
Starting point is 01:28:55 his rights no he was we're business partners you know listen you could be a business partner with anybody but yes we all go
Starting point is 01:29:02 to our separate banks that's just what it is right this world is a business partner with anybody, but we all go to our separate banks. That's just what it is. This world is a business. Black people are business. Black people are politics. Why? White people are politics. They made this worse because that's what we are. We don't even know how old we are. How old are you? 55,
Starting point is 01:29:17 you say? No, I'm 44. 55, I think. Yo, chill. I didn't say you were my 44. I'm 55. How do we look at our age? How do we look at our age? How do we be? Let me ask you though. What?
Starting point is 01:29:30 You're 55, right? No, but when Trump started to lean towards racism, how did you feel? Because you had to be like, this is not this guy. Or did you say, this is this guy? I don't know. I just know that I have some bad qualities that people could point that to.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Great point. That's what I know. What's the glass rock shit? Can't throw rocks in a glass house. What did he say? Oh, yeah. Throw rocks in a glass house. Throw rocks. Throw rocks without sin. That's he say? Oh, yeah. Oh, rocks are fabulous. Don't worry, don't worry.
Starting point is 01:30:05 The rocks. Don't worry. That's it, but similar to that. That was a great answer. Wait, can I? You're 55, right? 45. 44.
Starting point is 01:30:15 God damn it. 55? 44. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I got to go. Oh, man, I was really grinding at 44. Really grinding with my wife. But we've been to the Tyson Ranch.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Beautiful. Thank you, thank you. You guys welcome us. It moved to Tyson 2.0. Tyson Ranch had to go. Tyson 2.0, if you look at it, we're probably the highest established cannabis in the business. We heard the stats. We heard it.
Starting point is 01:30:49 We got it. Yeah, absolutely. And we started this just as a joke. Can we have some of the edibles, please? The ears, please? I can't get any. We need to eat ears. Ears are very, it was too much for me. It sounds weird. No, but I just can't handle it. I don't know when it We need to eat ears. Ears are very, it was too much for me.
Starting point is 01:31:05 It sounds weird. No, but I just can't handle it. I don't know when it's going to hit me. I might be talking. But this is the guy that wanted me to eat all the mushrooms, though. Look at this guy right here. I'll be honest with you. I was watching.
Starting point is 01:31:18 Did that happen to you before? What is it called? Microdosing, guy. Microdosing. Micromanaging? What are you talking about, bro? Exactly. This is the reason why I'm not here, guys. But why is your shit chocolate and gold?
Starting point is 01:31:35 What is that, chocolate and gold? No, the wrapper is gold. And you can eat the wrapper. I'm going to take a piece. I'm going to go ahead. Will you be kind enough to do that? I'll be kind enough to do that. Take two, I believe. Yeah, take two. Take two and just come eat the wrapper. I'm going to take a piece. I'm going to go ahead. Will you be kind enough to do that? I'll be kind enough to do that. Take two, I believe.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Yeah, take two. Take two and just come in the morning. Tyson, Tyson, Tyson. Oh, please forgive me. My name is N-R-E. I know. Not Mike Tyson. We're talking about God now.
Starting point is 01:31:55 We're talking about God. Go ahead. Go ahead, bro. Eat that shit. Did you just say God? Eat that shit. Eat that shit, Meachie. Eat that shit.
Starting point is 01:32:04 Eat. No, no, no. please continue eating, brother. I'm taking a little pee too. We gonna end it? Is that what that says over there? Tyson gotta go. Excuse me? You don't see that shit right there?
Starting point is 01:32:18 It says Tyson gotta go. Tyson gotta go. Well, I'll pay for overtime. Oh, let's go. Eat that shit! eat that shit! Eat that shit! This is a legendary moment. Yo, can I say something?
Starting point is 01:32:34 Yeah, please, no, no, please, my bad. My bad, bro. This is definitely a legendary moment. Thank God he's talking. Yeah, please. I know, right? We're about to influence ourselves. We try to make noise for recessions.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Recession proof. Motherfuckin' proof. I'm way too high. Everybody that's watching this, listen, this is a legendary moment. Some of you guys probably seen the other legendary moments that was created at Recession Proof, like a million dollars worth of game interview on Floyd Mayweather. Shout out to them, bro.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Earn Your Leisure interview on Rick Ross. Earn Your Leisure interview on Shaq. This is what we do. I just want to plug in and just tell people, listen, it's a free room that we create legendary moments. So I want to invite everybody, all your Dream Champ listeners, next year, we're going somewhere legendary. And I want to invite everybody, all your Dream Champ listeners, next year we going somewhere legendary and I want to interview them. Yo listen, I want to invite everybody in advance that watch and check out this legendary moment.
Starting point is 01:33:32 All you got to do is text MSG to 404-737-737 so that way you sitting on another legendary moment when we create another one next year, y'all. Let's get it. Thank you. Make some noise. I'm from California. California.
Starting point is 01:33:49 And let me say something before we get up out of here. Session proof. I'm okay. I'm okay. I got to smoke and drink on Drink Champs. And it was okay. But for session proof, let me just say something. I want to thank you.
Starting point is 01:34:03 I can't believe they still fucking got this show. Y'all got it crazy. Yeah, we six years in, buddy. We in. So, I want to say thank you. I want to say thank you for continuing to show black success. And the show, let me just be clear. Let's be clear.
Starting point is 01:34:20 Because black success always comes in the form of entertainment. And we don't need that. What we need is success in every shape, form, and fashion. 100%. I think it's all about the entertainment. Because everyone thinks entertainment. Every time you think you're being successful, they say, well, I want to be Kareem Abdul-Jabbar,
Starting point is 01:34:46 I want to be Mike Tyson, let me just tell you something, you are not going to be the next Mike Tyson, I'm just being honest. Don't listen to him, you are. You are, if you say you're not, then you're not. Everything you say you are, that's the truth. It's edutainment. Edutainment.
Starting point is 01:35:05 I'll take that, too! How can I think I'm special? I'm made by God. You don't think God can make somebody greater than me? Hey! That's just a real talk. But, if you get in the ring, and you get punched in the face.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Or behind, see, in. And you don't like it. Yeah, that could be problems. Go to recessive proof, okay? Hey! I like this show. No, let me tell you. It's out of your way.
Starting point is 01:35:34 Hold up, let me tell you something. Please talk, all right? No, no, hold up, let me tell you something. This is an honor, it is special to drink champs. Mike Tyson means so much to the culture to him Your name is drunk. No We will get drunk with you absolutely nope I could barely drink waiter now this is weird, but Honestly
Starting point is 01:36:01 Mike Tyson means so much to the culture. He has superseded and he has gone beyond all his, any issue he ever had, he has just overcome everything and is such an example to everybody, whether you be black, Latino, whatever. This is an example right here, everybody, so make some noise for Mike Tyson I'm afraid of my wife, too. Oh, I'm dead so on that note motherfuckers You reciprocate and be afraid of your wife, God damn it. Get on, nigga.
Starting point is 01:37:08 You took another piece? Yo! Don't stop the show. EFN, I'm so proud of you, bro. No, it's my birthday. I'm going in. It's because you and Mike bids. Y'all bids have been connected. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 01:37:23 Listen, listen. It's his birthday. Happy birthday, bro! Happy birthday! Listen, listen. Happy birthday! Happy birthday to you! Happy birthday to you! Happy birthday! Happy birthday! Happy birthday! Happy birthday to you!
Starting point is 01:37:38 Happy birthday to you! Hold on, hold on! Hold on! Let's be true! Hold on, hold on! Let's be clear! Hold on, hold on. We black! We sing Happy Birthday different. Happy Birthday to you! Happy Birthday dear Rita!
Starting point is 01:37:58 Happy Birthday! Hey, how you doing? Yo. Yo. Good time. I'm Latino. So if we late, school's gone. Y'all told me. Is there any Latinos in the building? There ain't no Latinos here. I got Latinos here. That's a good one.
Starting point is 01:38:17 Hey, man. We Latino anyway, bro. We Caribbean. Damn. Wrap it up. There they say. Wrap it up. Wrap it up. Wrap it up. Wrap it up. Wrap it up. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs,
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