Drink Champs - Episode 319 w/ Chris Brown

Episode Date: June 24, 2022

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legendary Chris Brown! Chris joins us and shares stories of his journey in music. Chris talks almost being sign t...o Diddy’s Bad Boy record label, his first single “RUN IT” and more! Breezy talks VERZUZ, Drake, consistency in music and much much more! Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!! Make some noise for the one and only Chris Brown!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 || Listen and subscribe at http://www.drinkchamps.com  Follow Drink Champs: http://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps http://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps http://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps  DJ EFN http://www.crazyhood.com http://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy http://www.twitter.com/djefn http://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions  N.O.R.E. http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga http://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:36 This man, I can't tell you he got hits. He got more than hits. More than hits. This nigga be dropping albums with 22 songs on it. Hella songs. Hella songs. Hella hits. This nigga be dropping albums with 22 songs on it. Hella songs. Hella songs. Hella songs. This nigga keep going.
Starting point is 00:03:48 He don't want to stop. And guess what? I'm going to be honest here, friend. I might come out of retirement because I need a hook. Let's go. Let's go. What are we doing? But in case these people don't know what I'm talking about,
Starting point is 00:04:00 in case these people don't know what we're talking about, this man has destroyed a whole era. He has continued to make hits after hits after hits. I put a playlist
Starting point is 00:04:14 together and it was 3,000 songs. One stop. Two days. In case you don't know the fuck
Starting point is 00:04:23 we're talking about, we're talking about the one, the only, motherfucking Chris Brown! Thank y'all, man. Now, Chris, let me just say... That introduction was amazing. That was amazing, correct? I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I did my job, I did my job. But let me just tell you something. But do you, because I actually... Our fans are fucking great fans, right? So they're saying, we know Chris Brown is coming out with an album on the 24th. Do you guys have a... They've been stalking us to stalk you, right?
Starting point is 00:04:56 And we were stalking you. Fuck it. We went through it. We had the crib. We stalked you. But here's the deal. And I don't think anybody's ever watched, ever asked you this question. Do you feel like the new Michael Jackson?
Starting point is 00:05:14 Damn. Personally, my real honest opinion, no. You know, I feel like nobody can replace that man. That man kind of like, he's still the end-all be-all when it comes to entertainment, even subject matter of songs. Are you smoking Smoke Champs? I like your style.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yeah, you know, I like your style. I like you promoting our product immediately. I like this. I like that. I can be scary, but I just feel like
Starting point is 00:05:40 he's like Jesus to me, you know? So I feel like I could never be in his his shoes I can only like be inspired by him you know and and try to I don't want to imitate him because his magic is his magic so me being able to even have that conversation I'm I'm flattered but I'm also like honest with myself like hell nah you ain't fucking better than no Michael Jackson hell no they didn't say better they said the new okay cool well I ain't gonna say I'm the new I ain't fucking better than no Michael Jackson. Hell no. No, they didn't say better. They said the new.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Okay, cool. Well, I ain't going to say I'm the new. I ain't going to say I'm the new. I just say I'm Chris Brown. I think he's a real, real impactful person and the reason why I do this. You know what I'm saying? So I could. It's like Jordan and LeBron or Jordan and Kobe.
Starting point is 00:06:23 It's two different eras. So you never really get to see what it could have been or what it is. But I feel like without him, I wouldn't even know what to do. I'll be real. I love the humble answer. Now, that's real, though, about that situation. Now, you talk about somebody else, I'm like, man, I'm flaming them. What you talking about?
Starting point is 00:06:43 Are you smoking anybody in versus? It's thrown out there? Nobody don't want to smoke with you in versus? Usher, nobody. Let's just get here. You know, Usher, my brother, like, I don't even, my whole position on the versus thing, it's like, it's cool. It's dope what it's doing with the culture,
Starting point is 00:06:59 but I feel like where I'm at in my quarter or my game, like, I'm not down 20 points. You feel me? So I feel like me doing that would be like, okay, you know, I'm about to hang it up. So that's a real classic. Chris, this is some great shit you told me. You know what I'm saying? You basically saying you smoking everybody. I'm smoking.
Starting point is 00:07:12 You know what I'm saying? I'm on the smoke, bro. I'm on the smoke, bro. Yo, I'm not going to lie. That's been like a debate. A who Chris Brown could battle on versus yeah don't get me wrong now like i know what the the consensus is but because i'm a fan of their music too so when
Starting point is 00:07:32 i hear some of this i'm like oh when you say they who you talking about because they only well it's only v it's not even they okay uh. I would just say they want me and Usher to do it. You know, you get what I'm saying? Like, it only makes sense, but it got to make more sense. Like, I would want to celebrate him and his life just as much as celebrating my stuff. So, because both of us, I can't act like he ain't a pioneer as well. Right. That's what we love about you, Chris.
Starting point is 00:08:02 That's Usher. Yeah. So, you know what I'm saying? I think it would be something good for the fans, but it would have to just make Chris. Yeah. So, you know what I'm saying? I think it would be something good for the fans, but it would have to just make sense for both of us. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:08:09 Because I got a hell of songs. That's all I can say. I just got too many damn songs. But you saying when it boils down to it. Oh, I ain't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I'm feeling it. He's doing it. Yeah. I'm feeling it. Let's make some noise. Now, Chris, I'm not going to's make some noise Now Chris I'm not gonna lie to you bro I might have been One person
Starting point is 00:08:32 Who seen the beginning Of your growth Facts For real for real Tina Davis days I remember man I was like 14 15
Starting point is 00:08:41 Yeah I remember I ain't forget Damn I'm good I'm good at my job Listen I remember one night I was like 14, 15. I don't remember. I ain't forget. Damn, I'm good. I'm good at my job. Listen, I remember one night I was in the studio. We was in Criteria Studio. I was mixing a song.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I'm like kind of like. Was Criteria New York or Miami? No, Miami. Miami. I'm kind of finished mixing. Tina Davis steps to me and says, I got this new artist. He needs this studio. I switched studios with you.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Do you remember this? Yeah, I remember. I was nervous, too. I'm like, man, what the fuck? I'm not, don't nobody know me. We about to ask this gangster to move. They all tripping. You know, give me beat ups.
Starting point is 00:09:19 You know what I mean? You know what I mean? I'm so good. No, no, no, no. Let me hang it, girl. I'm over it. Look down. I got you. But I can't lie That might have been The best move
Starting point is 00:09:29 I ever made in my life Because As I did this I said Tina Davis asked me Can you switch studios With this new artist No one never
Starting point is 00:09:39 Heard of you at the time I think it's Run It I'm not sure Yeah I think it was like Right before we dropped Right before we were going The only reason why I say it's Run It. I'm not sure. Yeah, I think it was like right before we dropped, right before we were going. The only reason why I say it's Run It is because
Starting point is 00:09:48 Scott Storch produced Run It. Yeah, yeah. And I believe it was a session with you and Scott. We was in there a year. Diego, you was there for sure. What were you recording? Man.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I was high. You don't remember? It wasn't Melvin Flynn. It was after that. I don't know what it was. I was just high doing dumb shit. And then
Starting point is 00:10:06 Dina Davis says, says, yo. And it wound up being you. Yeah. And it's a story I love. My brother. I love because I got to see your beginning.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Yeah. To where we at right now. Your beautiful, gorgeous, goddamn house. I'm not going to lie. I think I want you to design my crib. Yeah. To where we at right now, your beautiful, gorgeous goddamn house. I'm not going to lie, I think I want you to design my crib. Can you tell me? My shit is a lot of chaos, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:10:32 You can see there's a lot of shit that's going on in my head all the time. Did you do any of this art? Yeah. You did? Yeah, so one of my homies is here too. His name is D Cozy. But me and him consistently probably did that.
Starting point is 00:10:42 We did this wall, we did this wall together. A lot of these different canvases, like certain stuff is individual pieces, but a lot of the art is like my home. That's dope. I never seen somebody art on a refrigerator. Yeah, I was bored one night. You know what I'm saying? No, you enjoy that.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Yeah, you see, I put the Supreme sign over the titties. My kids was coming in here, and I was like, oh, shit, I forgot I got titties. It's on the refrigerator. I just got to figure that out. So I kind of changed it up a little bit, but yeah. And you got the Supreme horn. It's not from the Supreme horn. That's the red flag horn.
Starting point is 00:11:18 This is when shit go down wrong in the grave. You see all the red flags. Hit that motherfucker. All right. Give him a bacho. So you rolling up? Yep. flags. Get that motherfucker. All right. Get him up out your face. So you rolling up? Yep. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Let's go. We established that anybody, nobody can battle you in versus. We established that, right? I mean, I would just be modest and say, hey, man, it's a lot of great talent out there. But I'm nice, too. Okay. But let me ask you something. When a person like Jacquees says he's the king of all the beat.
Starting point is 00:11:51 That's my little bro, man. I know what he means. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's going to get him talking. Like, you feel me? And I know that me knowing him and his vocal ability and his talent, he's been with me since. I'm talking about, I knew Jacquees when he had braces. Like, I'm talking about when he was having to and his talent. He's been with me since, I'm talking about, I knew Jacque when he had braces. Like, I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:12:06 when he was having to call his mom, can I just stay over here for the weekend? No, you got school tomorrow. So, me seeing his progress and getting in the studio, there's not a lot of motherfuckers that can get in the studio
Starting point is 00:12:17 with me or with certain, and just pick up the flow. Like, I don't sit there and write the lyrics down and sit with it. I'm fast. Like, my ADHD gonna make me get it done. So him, he was able to consistently keep up with me
Starting point is 00:12:31 on a lot of songs and actually play me some stuff that he had wrote and then I wrote some stuff with him too. So I respect his gangster when he says it on the R&B side, but I know what he mean. He just mean, hey, I'm the young little nigga out here right now
Starting point is 00:12:45 that can do this ain't nobody else trying to sing like this so I give him the respect on that end it's just a different type of conversation with me though
Starting point is 00:12:52 you know what I'm saying it's different ain't nobody fucking with you come on nigga just saying just saying ain't nobody
Starting point is 00:13:01 fucking with you I'm just thankful that I'm able to be consistent to an audience who doesn't who doesn't kind of change their perspective on me due to my music. Like, my music always kind of shines through. So that's what I really like. I'm 33.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I'm appreciative of being able to sit over here and be like, yo, we got this going on? I got a video? You're 33. I'm starting as a child, too, man. That's crazy. You feel me? I'm a legend. 33 now.
Starting point is 00:13:27 God damn it. God damn it. So let's take it from the beginning, right? Because we just had Jewel Santana on. Yeah, bro scared. And Jewel said,
Starting point is 00:13:37 I thought I was the first person on Run It, but then Bow Wow said on the Soulja Boy battle that he was the first person on Run It. Can we eliminate this rumor right now, Chris?
Starting point is 00:13:46 So, you know, Sha is my brother, man. But Sha be cap sometimes. But I love Sha. But, nah, he was actually. When you say Sha, you talking about Bow Wow. Okay, all right. Cool. For niggas, that's not cool.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Yeah, my friend. So, Bow, right? So, he definitely was the first. I'm talking about person who said, look, you want to get on tour? I'm going to show you how to do this. He was not a hater. There was a lot of singers out, a lot of other people that was kind of a little bit like, I don't fuck with him.
Starting point is 00:14:15 So, I used to be like, all right. Bow was like the first one. But when we did Run It, it was like, we did Run It, like I said, in Hit Factory in Miami. But I was like 14. And they was like, well, who you want to you want to feature I said man Jewel Santana like and we had already we already solidified that like before we even put the video out we had his version but bow and in the months of that timing he did do about by the universe wait so many pre did the remix he did it after though Joe yeah it was
Starting point is 00:14:44 like it was I wasn't the first. But Bow was the first person to take me on tour and be like, look, I fuck with you. You know what I'm saying? Hey, man, that is a legendary story. That's legendary. Holy shit. I'm going to pop me some Ace of Spades, Champagne, you know what I'm saying? This shit, I always look at this shit with this logo on it.
Starting point is 00:15:05 I'm like, oh, somebody casting a spell on me. Yeah, yeah, it's definitely Illuminati. Yeah, it is. It's definitely, come on. Hot. You want to join it? I'm going to take a shot, though. I want the shots, too.
Starting point is 00:15:15 All right, cool. I'm going to get my Moana, too. Hey, you got to calm down. They thought I was a bitch behind this, so I'm like, okay, let me take a shot. But I have to warn you, my face never changes. If it's nasty, it's nasty. So my face, it's like a mechanism. I don't know what type of challenge you challenging us, Chris Brown, but we in.
Starting point is 00:15:33 That right there? We are in. But where's my shot? Cheers, cheers. Nah, see, I didn't cheer because I was trying to get this shit out the way. Come on. Where's my shot? This motherfucker ain't right.
Starting point is 00:15:42 And you working on it? I'm talking about we ain't got no Haviki. Damn, y'all slipping. All right, you know what? We got to rock passion. All right, cool. Yes, we do. It's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:15:54 So, let's ask you, right? Yeah. Coming from Virginia. What's up, Virginia, by the way? Yeah, big up to you. We're going to Virginia tomorrow. Oh, word? We're doing something in the water concert.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're for real. That's going to be amazing, bro. So, let's describe us for a person that's never been to Virginia. Uh-huh. Describe Virginia and how it was like your childhood. Shit, Virginia's tricky. I can't say nothing about Virginia.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Mason-Dixon line, correct? Somewhat, but- But what town in Virginia are you from? See, I'm from Tappahannock, so that's like the sticks. My high school class was like, my graduating class was maybe like 26 people. Oh, shit. You know what I'm saying? The school only held like 607 single-A schools, so that's different.
Starting point is 00:16:36 And my cousins and different family members, they're from different parts of Richmond. You know what I'm saying? You're Southside, you got, it's just so many different hoods and cliques, but there's different type of slangs. It's weird. Like you might be from one part and then you sound like you from Philly. And then you from the sticks and you be like, hey man, what the hell going on? Like it'll be totally opposite. Mine was really the sticks.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Feel me? So then as I started doing music, like Pharrell, where they from? That's like Long Beach or LA. Where's Pharrell from? He's from? He's from like Hampton, like 757.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Okay. You know what I'm saying? So like Norfolk, basically. So we would never run into them, really. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Like Trey, he's Petersburg. They're like 30 minutes from us. So I kind of know his people. When you say Trey, you're talking about
Starting point is 00:17:22 Trey Songz. Trey Songz, my fault. Yeah. So yeah. So like Virginia, for me, I would just say his people. When you say Trey, you're talking about Trey Songz. Trey Songz, my fault. Yeah, so, yeah. So, like, Virginia, for me, I would just say it's, they don't be playing out there neither.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Like, as much as, you know what I'm saying, we don't try to boost the gangster shit up and all that. But, man, everybody who know about Virginia know about Virginia. It's just like, you feel me? So, it's just like. Two of my favorite players is from Virginia, Allen Iverson and Mike Vick. Of course, the GOAT, rubber chuck, man. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:45 And I'm going to see Mike Vick. Of course, the GOAT, Rubber Chuck, man, hell yeah. And I'm going to see Mike Vick for his 10th anniversary in Vegas. That's hard. Me and my wife, we're going out there. That's dope. Because you know why? We fucking Virginia niggas. You see it? Yo, but we got you coming from Virginia.
Starting point is 00:18:04 You got Mike Vick You got Allen Iverson Macy's Timberland There's a lot coming out of Virginia He from the NBA Damn Show me people
Starting point is 00:18:14 Lady of Rage Yeah Nah stop that Lady of Rage is from fucking Virginia Someone said it on We were talking about that She's definitely from VA She's from Virginia
Starting point is 00:18:23 Holy moly guacamole. Yeah. Yeah, Matt's still said it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he said it, I think, about Lady Rage. What is it? Not saying it before. But how is it transitioning, coming from Virginia, you getting a record label and a record deal,
Starting point is 00:18:37 and your first label was Jive? Yeah, my first one, yeah. Well, yeah. But wait, no, how do you get the record deal to start with? Man, this shit was a miracle. I know everybody probably look at my old discography and be like, yeah, he got picked up at a gas station. But no, my daddy worked at a gas station at the time.
Starting point is 00:18:54 So basically what happened with me is I would hang with a certain group of people that wouldn't be particularly liked. But I would also tell my mom, like, hey, mom, I'm working with these people. We're doing some music. So I would, you know, be able to get out of school early or go to certain places and always record songs. But they'd be, like, the people I would with was some real, some gangsters.
Starting point is 00:19:17 And I imagine older than you because you was a kid. Yeah, definitely older than me. So from there, I would go from, man, Richmond, D.C., all the way to Pennsylvania. Then we'll go to New York. But I'm 13, 12, 13 at this time. Crazy. And I would still do my schooling and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:19:32 But basically, I got heard from Tina Davis on a CD of about 13 artists. So it was like, you know how you sing your demo as a group? So I was number seven on that song. And it was just one song that I did. Because the label does that to check out new artists, right? Yeah. So boom, they was, yeah. This is so good.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Hold on. Tell me. Tell me. This is crazy. So you sent in a CD? Well, shit, not even me. The people I was with. Like, you know, obviously I was working to becoming an artist and wanting to do it.
Starting point is 00:20:00 But I was under a conglomerate. You know what I'm saying? Like, you got Murder, Inc. And you got Gene or whatever. You got a gang of artists just i was under a conglomerate you know what i'm saying like you got a murder inc and you got gene whatever how you got a gang of artists right i was in that conglomerate i just was the only kid that sang right so i think they only had one or two demos from me you know and then from there it was everybody else was either girl groups rappers and different stuff so just so you're saying this cd was delivered to whoever it was delivered to? Well, the music and then it got put on that CD. With 13 other artists.
Starting point is 00:20:27 We sent it to Def Jam. We sent it to Def Jam. And Tina was at Def Jam and she heard it. 13 other artists on this shit. Yeah. And she picked you? Mm-hmm. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Let's make some noise for that. Yeah, for sure. Oh, my. Do you remember the name of the song that she picked? And I want to take a shot. Of course. This is great. Come on. Which shot do you want? And I want to take a shot. Of course. This is great. Come on.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Which shot do you want? It's called, shit, it's going to be funny. I'll be cringing when I watch this damn video. Because my fans be sending it to me. It's called Whose Girl Is That? Right? I'm like 13 in the video. But it's like my.
Starting point is 00:20:57 And you bagging niggas girls at 13? Yeah, I was bad at 13. I was hanging around. Let go, CB. Come on. I was troubled at 13. I was hungry. Let go, CB! Come on! I was a trouble at 13. I'm not going to lie. I did not think you was going to be drinking brown.
Starting point is 00:21:11 You're drinking brown. That's my last name. Oh, champ, I got that. That passion is great. Yeah. You see, you've been missing out. I forgot. We're still on commercial.
Starting point is 00:21:24 So, okay. So how does this happen? Keena Davis, here's the record. And she calls your management. She calls because you're 13 at the time. I imagine probably your parents is involved. Yeah, my mom and I, it was in Virginia. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:39 But I was with my production team at the time. So back and forth, they were like big brothers to me. Right. I was comfortable around them. So I wasn't, like, nervous going into offices and, you know, being there and be like, like, what's up? I want to do this. At 11, at 12.
Starting point is 00:21:54 And then the funniest part, like, a lot of people don't know this. Diddy turned me down. I was 12 years old. You're going to watch this. Let's talk about him right now. But it's love now. It's like family, my brother and them. But let's get to the point.
Starting point is 00:22:12 You went to see him. You. Was you dancing? So basically it came as a package deal. Because if you danced, he definitely would have signed you. Nah, I'm going to keep it 100. So I was like 12 at this time. This was before I didn't, when I linked to Def Jam shit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:28 But it was me and one of my production manager's son named TJ. He's my brother to this day. But me and him were like a group. You know what I'm saying? What was the name of y'all group? Man, we didn't have no name. This is why he ain't signed y'all. Y'all didn't get that far.
Starting point is 00:22:43 You know what I mean? We just. Y'all ain't had your shit together. It was early for us, so we was like, whatever. I think we thought the talent was speaking for itself. The talent was making it happen. Yeah. But anyway, so when we get in there, we do two songs.
Starting point is 00:22:59 And this is a song where I'm just on the chorus parts. And then there's one song that I sing like the bridge. And back then, my voice, I was like high-pitched, Michael Jackson tone. Like, when he was a kid, like, I could really sing, sing, sing. Jackson 5 Jackson. Yeah, so. You flossing right now. We like that.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Back then. Not like that now. I can still sing. I can still sing. But not like, yeah. But we get into the office, so we do the performance. Like, we nervous, but we just do the shit. Boom, all right.
Starting point is 00:23:26 He said, yeah, I like this crew. I don't like this light-skinned nigga over here, this little nigga over here. Fuck that. I said, that's just melted in that goddamn office at 12. I said, look, I'm fucked up. And you're 12 years old. Yeah. So I got to ask. Yeah. So,
Starting point is 00:23:45 I got to ask. Yeah. Your partner was dark-skinned? I mean, you got to ask. I got to ask. Because my brother
Starting point is 00:23:55 was dark-skinned. All right, because he could have said this is like the new salt and pepper and it's not. It's not. It's not.
Starting point is 00:24:03 I'm sorry. What the fuck? But I'll be real. By him doing that, it motivated me to be more secure in myself. Like, to be like, you know what? Don't try to just do you. You feel me? And so, at 12, you mad about it.
Starting point is 00:24:18 No, but I thank him for that now. Like, I don't. Nah, that's real. You feel me? That's real. That's real. Thank you. That's real shit. I need to learn that it ain... That's real. That's real. Thank you. Real shit, real good.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I need to learn that it ain't all yeses. That's real shit, bro. I'm gonna be honest. Real shit. I would've been still mad at the nigga. Nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I'm a foul nigga, Chris. Bruh, see, we didn't... Make some noise if you're a foul nigga. I'm a foul nigga. Don't make a noise if you're a foul nigga. I'm taking another shot
Starting point is 00:24:43 of Chris Brown. I'm taking another shot. You ready to take another shot, Chris? I got you. I ain't seen much time. My tolerance is a little high. Okay. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:24:52 All right, you going to D'Ussé. This is what you want. All right, you want this. He's sticking with that. This is my third. I'm counting on this shit. We got my number one. Salud.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Salud. Salud. Now, how... As we drinking D'Ussé, salud. How is it with this relationship with Jay-Z? I don't really have one. Never have? I mean, every time I've been around him
Starting point is 00:25:11 and sat around him, it's always been cool. It's never been like any hate. I'd be like, oh, what's up, bro? You good? Boom.
Starting point is 00:25:17 And just keep it moving. I really just don't have a, I don't have a, what is it, like a path where me and him cross. Where it crosses, right. Or where we like, hey, we doing this, so we got to, but it's no issue. It's just like, oh, what is it, like a path where me and him cross. Where we like, hey, we doing this, so we got to. But it's no issue.
Starting point is 00:25:28 It's just like, oh, what's up, bro? That's a beautiful thing. I thought all of y'all get together at light-skinned class. Shit, I know. They kick me out of that class. They kick you out of the class? The karate class? My soul's dark-skinned. They kick you out of that?
Starting point is 00:25:43 They say I'm too crazy, man. Oh, okay. Well, let's make some little Christmas. But do you realize you the GOAT? You a GOAT? Look at that. Oh, yeah. On time.
Starting point is 00:25:56 That's tight. Look, Leigh-Anne, you embarrassing us right now, girl. No, that's tight. She didn't pop that at all the correct way. No, it was like, it's Gemini season. It's Gemini season. It's Jim and I. Happy birthday, girl. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:26:07 But because, I mean, looking from the beginning and looking to now, I'm so proud of you. Thank you, man. I really, I know I'm standing in front of GOAT right now. I got to keep my humble mind. I'm not going to be humble for you. You can be humble, but let me floss for you. All right, for sure. You're the GOAT.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Ain't nobody can fuck with you right now. Thank you. If anybody does a record with Chris Brown, they go through the roof. Do you realize that? Yeah, but their records be hard. Nah. I think it's you, sir. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I'm happy to be able to do it. I'm happy that people want to actually have consistency. Or whatever I'm hearing in my head ain't freaking lame. It's everybody's personal opinion to fuck with me or not fuck with me, but the response has been, like, amazing. So I don't really... I don't got no complaints. I'm still in amazement.
Starting point is 00:27:11 I know where I'm at. I'm just... I don't know. I don't know if I'm in just an abundance of accepting who I am or just appreciative of it. You're humble.
Starting point is 00:27:19 You're being humble. But it does go unnoticed. Like, you know what I'm saying? The reason why I have sleepless nights is because I'm trying to figure out how to make this shit matter for people. You know what I'm saying? The reason why I had sleepless nights is because I'm trying to figure out how to make this shit matter for people. You know what I'm saying? Right.
Starting point is 00:27:29 So that's all it is. But it's dope to feel that. We got to give him his roses right now. Yes, definitely. Let's go. Where the flowers at, baby? We want you to know that you are the GOAT. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:40 And we give you your motherfucking flowers. Yeah, I'm going to hang this up. Snoop Dogg told us this is better than getting the Grammy because it's from his peers. Yes, facts. And we real niggas. And Chris, just in case you don't know, we love you. Thank you, bro. We respect you.
Starting point is 00:27:54 And we know who you are out here. And you that nigga. I appreciate y'all. I'm sorry. Y'all supposed to clap as soon as I say that. That's my life. Y'all niggas is very late over there. Let's get our light together.
Starting point is 00:28:08 We got punch in the building. What the fuck is going on? Jeez Louise, Papa Cheese. Let me ask you a question, right? Yeah. Moving to LA. Yeah. Is it a...
Starting point is 00:28:24 Culture shock? Culture, yes, thank you. We've been hanging out too much. Um, no, I think you just gotta just,
Starting point is 00:28:33 I don't want to sound cliche, but you gotta just stay dangerous. Like, I feel like out here, it's, it's, it's very, very,
Starting point is 00:28:39 uh, influential. It's very, I've been out here since I was 15. Like, you know, so I, back and forth.
Starting point is 00:28:44 You're practically raised out here. Yeah, so, politics that come with certain shit like i understand but at the same time it's like you you get a long way by having respect or and respecting where you at like you know what i'm saying so i feel like i've been out here this is like a home to me on the west coast so you know i might have c best friends, blood best friends. You know what I'm saying? So I don't draw the line. I don't, I'm not out here in the extortion of conversations. Like, you need to kick in.
Starting point is 00:29:15 It's none of that. Nah. You feel me? I think L.A. is just in itself. You just got to stay on your toes anywhere you at. People are hungry. That's the big thing about L.A. You got to understand on your toes anywhere you at. People are hungry. That's the big thing about L.A. You got to understand
Starting point is 00:29:25 where they coming from. I understand the hunger part, but I don't understand the senseless, stupid shit. The big thing about L.A. is when you come out here, you fall into hood politics. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Oh, you don't have to. You stay the fuck away from that shit. That's real. If you want to play with that, just know what it is. And then at the end of the day, don't complain when that becomes the problem. Yeah, that's real.
Starting point is 00:29:48 You get what I'm saying? Can we see Soulja Boy out there? He put his shit up. It didn't work out for him. I even look at that situation as like some funny kiddie shit that niggas was going through. And he was like, claiming the hood. And honestly, it just made the hood look bad.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Just even doing some weird old corny ass shit. That was some real light skin corny shit to be doing. So like, did you say that's some real light skin shit? Facts. That was some real corny shit. So for me, I was just like, man, all that shit is dead. Ain't anybody tripping off that shit. And then it was just, you know, Soulja is a character, man.
Starting point is 00:30:24 But once you get to know it and know that it's really all up, you just be like, all right, bud, you straight. Like, you know, so all that shit. I look back at him now like, damn, I was really feeling the fire, bud, shit up. Nah, it ain't even worth it. That shit stupid now. But it's cool. Everything all good, you know. Would you like some Ace of Spades?
Starting point is 00:30:42 Nah, I'm cool. You cool? You going to stick with the Deuce yeah you trying to have me throw you got his drink I ain't gonna lie to you you on drink caps right now
Starting point is 00:30:50 I ain't gonna lie we different niggas y'all I'm gonna try you know what I'm saying I'm gonna look all flustered and pass out in the corner and shit
Starting point is 00:30:57 just keep it recording until I wake up but let me ask you cause right now and I think you got records for both of them, Young Thug and Gunna caught in the worst situation
Starting point is 00:31:10 I've ever seen in hip-hop. Facts. Freedom. They're actually basically on a text message saying word. That's all they're saying. Like, it's one dude saying, yo, yo, do this,
Starting point is 00:31:22 and one dude is saying word. What do you feel about that? I mean, I can't speak for my brothers in them case and what they're going on. I can only be who I've always been, they brother. You know, I'm going to rock with them for life. It's us, never them. Right. So that's what I'm standing on.
Starting point is 00:31:40 That's how I rock it. That's how. I'm trying my hardest. It's just like, you know, these family. I don't look at it like, oh damn, some entertainers on the way. When the pandemic shit was real, the niggas was out here starving, doing different shit. Niggas, they was with my real family. We made that mixtape and the whole album just off of V.O.B. It wasn't off of, let's see how the world going to react. We just say, look, we really fuck with each other.
Starting point is 00:32:05 We all family. You know what I'm saying? Like everybody speaks same lingo. We understand it. It's just, you got to think the top of the food chain, that's what they looking at with us. I've been shut the fuck up about shit. They try to get me early, so I'm cool, man.
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Starting point is 00:37:22 at watching shit like that now. What? I mean, it seems as dope as fuck, but I'd be like, oh, damn, nigga, you look... Why you do that? Why you move like that? Stop. I don't know. Takers is hard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:34 You don't like it? No, I love Takers. Okay. I love Takers. You going to do more movies? I've been behind the scenes, like, developing shit. Producing? We're producing, but at the same time developing content like actual
Starting point is 00:37:45 visual stuff like anime and different different series of things I'm trying to do y'all will see it I just I just hate
Starting point is 00:37:52 spilling what's what's a possibility a strong and not a fact you know what I'm saying but this is the stuff I'm working towards like the acting stuff
Starting point is 00:37:59 is something that I want to do you know but I feel like while I had the time to while I'm shooting visuals I can showcase that ability as well. Like when my videos are a lot of people don't know I'm in the editing room I'm the one we coming up with it if I do allow somebody's idea to be the narrative I'm still hands-on with them to show them how to make it move visually
Starting point is 00:38:18 You know I'm saying so the stuff that I do do and then I show people they like, okay That's dope, but you don't realize that I really do and then I show people they're like okay that's dope but you don't realize that I really did it myself so I'm always going to be on that type of time who your favorite director
Starting point is 00:38:31 my favorite directors right now man or favorite person to work with for you I mean Stanley Kubrick
Starting point is 00:38:39 obviously but Steven Spielberg you know come on this nigga said Steven Spielberg yeah Fuqua. Come on. This nigga said Steven Spielberg? Yeah, Fuqua. Did you say Antoine Fuqua?
Starting point is 00:38:49 Yeah. My bad. You are definitely not on my level. You on the whole thing. Cinematic shit. I'm thinking this nigga going to say Lil X. Oh, you talk about movies or music videos? I love that even better.
Starting point is 00:39:01 I love that you didn't understand the question. I love it. It's fucking that you didn't understand the question I love it it's fucking fantastic did you say James Cameron? yeah I like their bodies of work I like how they shoot and there's a lot of new directors too
Starting point is 00:39:16 there's the Asian cat from New Zealand who did like I'm sorry I forget your name bro but your shit is tight he got long hair no no no
Starting point is 00:39:27 that was like racist a little bit yeah and you look at Butch Rock foul I kinda did you know Butch Rock that's my DJ
Starting point is 00:39:35 you know Butch Rock you say he wanna battle you dancing but his name is Butch Rock that means he's a b-boy listen but let me just tell you something we go on tour
Starting point is 00:39:43 every night he has rice in his room it's very racist you gotta show some of your moves here's a cross you gotta show some of your moves he said he wanted to show his moves no listen you can't be showering who could be who could battle chris brown in a dance battle you know what's crazy? I got to give... He said right here. He said right here. Okay, I hear that. But the craziest part is, like, because I guess
Starting point is 00:40:09 I'm on a platform and I actually dance freely, that, you know what I'm saying, it kind of takes away and kind of puts me in that, oh, he's the best. When in reality, like, they have dance competitions
Starting point is 00:40:19 every week. I watch all of them. Man, there's some talented motherfuckers in the world, bro. I'm talking about cold. And I'm like, ooh. So I at least want to showcase that. But I can still of them. Man, there's some talented motherfuckers in the world, bro. I'm talking about Cole. And I'm like, ooh. So I at least want to showcase that. But I can still get down.
Starting point is 00:40:30 As far as what I do, as far as if you say, OK, get out there and sing for two hours, flip dance, and do all your songs, and then go to the club after that, and then go do the same thing over. Ain't nobody doing that. It's not one. No. But Omarion is cold. I love when you floss. Omarion own is cold like so never do that, but you saying he's okay. No, he's great
Starting point is 00:40:53 His style is different. I'll be real Icebox back in the day touch. Oh, I would have flame me Wait, my heart used to be yeah And it was yeah, that it was what? That boy was bad. Don't play them. Yeah. Yeah, you know, coldest. That nigga was, yeah, that nigga was what? He was crazy. Yeah, that boy was bad. Don't play with him. Right in that time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Yeah. It's no different now. But not. It's still a. Because you be doing the kid in play shit. I seen you. I seen you. Shut up the kid in play.
Starting point is 00:41:18 You been posting a lot of dance videos lately. Yeah, yeah. Because you want that smoke. Well, shit, I'm with all the smoke. I like the fact that people dancing again. Like, you know how fucking frustrating it is going to a club? And these niggas want to stand around. Be gangsters.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Fuck these. I'm like, bro, I used to go to spots and my whole outfit is sweaty. Everything done. Because you like this. I had so much fun. Left foot in. Yeah, shit. Even when he kind of dancing on girls. Bro, I don't know if my era is just different. Like, as soon as they start shaking, you supposed to get up.
Starting point is 00:41:51 What's happening? Right. Yeah. Like, girl will be shaking her ass in the club and dude will be like this. Right. We're about to eat hoes. What? I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Ain't we here because we wanted to see them? That's right. Get your stupid ass to fuck off. That's right. Get him to fuck out of the club. Get him the fuck out of the club. Get him the fuck out of the club. Get him the juice of that. Holy moly guacamole. Are we taking another shot?
Starting point is 00:42:10 Don't be doing like that. Chris ain't no sucker. Chris told us off top. He ain't no sucker. Chris, you want another shot? I'm in. I don't know what I'm drinking. And I'm disappointing you, butch.
Starting point is 00:42:20 You said he was going to dance. Nah, nah, nah, nah. He was going to dance. I think he said that got him. Yeah. Nah, listen. Listen. we went on tour every night and my Filipino he was racist
Starting point is 00:42:30 he lived out the Filipino racistness and he had rice every night in his room but he had a crock pot I don't smoke weed. I don't smoke weed.
Starting point is 00:42:46 He said my shit smell like rice. Oh, you took your shot already. You fast. I'm fast. You know what? My bad. So what the fuck is next for Chris Brown? What else can you do?
Starting point is 00:42:59 Man, like you said, the film side. I'm trying to do that. But as well, like, I want to create shit. I want the generational wealth to be able to, like, speak for itself, but in a good way. Like, you know what I'm saying? There's so many places. I'll be driving certain places. I'm like, how the hell is they making so much money right here? And then it's all these tents lined up right here, and you can't afford.
Starting point is 00:43:22 So shit like that don't sit well with me when I'm driving, buying shit, a car that I don't give a fuck about, crack the dent on it or get a scratch and that car worth half a million dollars. So just the necessity part for me, I don't want to get so far gone to where I don't have empathy for what the real shit going on. You know what I'm saying? So that's what I'm trying to figure out how I can navigate this music part that's influential without me having to have a fucking candidate speech or me trying to be elected for some bullshit didn't really just help people out it's not that hard to help people out like right all these rich ass motherfuckers tomorrow they Richard and I'll never see
Starting point is 00:43:59 the type of money I know the wife and they asked with it man just help this help this little block out right here. Help that right there. It ain't going to kill you, stupid. Right. You feel me? But I can't spend all my money to do it, because then I'm going to be broke out here with them. You got to be a collective. Chris, let me just tell you something.
Starting point is 00:44:14 You're not going to be broke, sir. Yeah, I'm just saying. But it's just the effort, I guess. The tenacity, the same feeling that you feel if it fucks with you or don't fuck with you. If it don't fuck with you, you're a piece of shit. Right. So let me ask you, what do you prefer more, making the music or performing the music? Because me listening to your playlist, I couldn't come up with the answer.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Every time I interview somebody, I think about this. Yeah. And with you in particular, I can't answer it. Because your music is just as good as... When I hear your records, I think you're performing already. I think... That's a good-ass question.
Starting point is 00:44:56 I'm good? Yeah, that was a great-ass question. I'm doing a good job? Yes. All right. Let's make some noise for me. At some point, you're going to give it up.
Starting point is 00:45:08 No, I'm sorry. Okay, I i think i think um both of those processes like they go hand in hand i don't think i can love more than the other because um i receive different energy from both like you know what i'm saying if i'm in a studio and i can feel a vibe in the mode i'm in i can't wait for people to hear it whether i'm where i go whether i go to a club or whether I'm on stage. They're like, okay, they like it. They like it as much as I thought I liked it. So I think it goes hand in hand. I think I get the energy from the crowd, and I've always been able to kind of navigate that
Starting point is 00:45:37 and play it by ear. I might tease a song and be like, we ain't fucking with that. Or they're like, oh, drop that. Got you. But once you get that energy, it's intoxicating. Let's talk about this new album. Yeah, man. What's the name of this new album?
Starting point is 00:45:49 Breezy. It's my 10th album, man. This is... Damn. Congratulations on 10th album. You're OG. OG right now. You're OG now.
Starting point is 00:45:56 What the fuck you want? Yo, you're OG now. And you ain't got no gray hair, though. That's good. I'm glad. I ain't got none either. Hey, relax, bro. What's going on here?
Starting point is 00:46:04 Oh, shit, I forgot. Hey, don't forget to set it. It looks like you dotted that color though That's good I'm glad I ain't got none either Hey relax bro What's going on here? Oh shit I forgot It goes with your aesthetic It looks like you dotted that color That's what I did They spelled all of them Santa Claus Oh for sure Relay Santa Claus Relay Santa Claus
Starting point is 00:46:13 For sure So 10th album Yeah Rich as fuck Why the fuck Are you still making music? Why aren't you Playing art in Malibu with no shorts on?
Starting point is 00:46:32 Where's the inspiration coming from? Well, my inspiration, I guess, I just never lost that hunger. Like, not for money. I don't care about the financial aspect. You know what I'm saying? It's a great plus for me to take care of my kids, take care of my family. Right. But me getting up, I'm like, ooh, this song made me feel like this.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Or I feel like this about this song. And I see the impact that it has on certain fans. It doesn't have to be the mainstream fans. It can be those core people that show up. That's the way you sound the fried chicken. They're two. And at my concerts, they be like, you know what? Could you read this note real fast? Or they'll show me something like, I used to cut myself.
Starting point is 00:47:10 And they'll show me 13 lashes and shit. And I'm like, what the fuck? Your music helped me get through this. So the perspective on why I started doing the music kind of changed when I seen like, yo, it's real motherfuckers that I might have just overlooked because the song was where it was at. But it really moved and touched somebody. So I'd rather just take this, like, whether they call it alien power or whatever the fuck it is, I'm not going to use it for the bad. Like, I don't have to.
Starting point is 00:47:37 I'm taking a shot, Chris. I'm sorry. You're making me emotional. You killed that. That was probably one of the best answers ever. All right. Salud. Salud.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Jesus. Don't drink what he drinking. I'm just keeping it haunted with you. But how long did it take you to find that place? Like, did it take you a while to see the power of the music?
Starting point is 00:48:00 I had to get out of my way. I think early 20s, I was just like, oh, this shit fun. Then I went to jail. Then like, you know what I'm saying? out of my way. I think early 20s, I was just like, oh, this shit's fun. Then I went to jail. You know what I'm saying? A lot of shit just was real. Wait, jail was fun?
Starting point is 00:48:10 You didn't say that. No, no, no. I said early on. Before jail was fun. Then I went to jail, yeah. Fuck no jail. But jail's not fun, sir. But I really kind of started listening to my perspective when people were showing up
Starting point is 00:48:23 to my shows with no promotion, no this, just sold out here, or we doing this, and then my children. So I'm like, damn, I really got to be the person I know I am instead of trying to run or be somebody I'm not, to try to overcompensate for my hurt or whatever it is. You know what I'm saying? So I feel like, I just was like, you know what? It got to be bigger than me when it comes to... I can easily go in the studio and be like, girl, take your pants off. Take your shirt off.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Hey, let's have sex. Let's talk about it, Chris Brown. But sometimes you need bigger records or subsequent songs because you'll never know who it impacts. You think you took it for granted before that? Hell yeah. Damn, really? Yeah, everybody do. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Everybody do. Everybody has, it's going to have somewhat of a chip on their shoulder. I think I kind of like caught on to it early before it was like me saying, okay, I'm done in my career y'all, so I want to tell y'all how good of a person I can be. I'm like, nah, shit. Do it while you hot. Be what you're here for. So let's talk about Tina Davis for a second.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Because that's how I met you, right? Tina Davis. I was on Def Jam at the time. And I don't remember what the discrepancy was from your studio, but we swapped studios. I believe you made Run It That Night. I'm not sure. But I claim that story, just so you know.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Thanks. I'll be talking about it. But it's factual. You were the first artist on. You were the first artist on. You were the first artist on. I just didn't have a feature. But listen, so what is your relationship now
Starting point is 00:49:53 to this day? Because we just established that you got the CD. What is your relationship now? We're cool. As far as business and working, we don't work. I know she has a job at another label doing her thing.
Starting point is 00:50:09 But it's always love. I see her out at different restaurants. We always speak. There's no ill will. There's always love. You know what I'm saying? So I owe a lot to that woman. That's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:50:18 I could never... You feel me? I will never be on no ill-hearted shit or no... Nah, we just doing different things and our careers. We're still up with the same, so. We gonna make some noise for that? For sure. Yeah, let's make some noise. Goddamn, I'm gonna take another shot, Chris.
Starting point is 00:50:36 I'm sorry. I'm an alcoholic. We gotta do quick time. We got quick time? Do we got quick time? Yes. Huh? You send it?
Starting point is 00:50:44 Okay. Damn, where's my phone? I'm just so happy i'm there we in chris brown house i ain't even looking at mine even doing my job good all right chris all right you ready yeah this is a this is a part of the segment that we do with every artist uh-huh and it's it's either or you take a shot, correct? Right. The politically correct answer is a shot. So I gotta just pick one or the other?
Starting point is 00:51:14 You might get in trouble, Chris. If you say both or neither is a shot but we drinking with you. We drinking with you though. We ain't giving you by yourself. I ain't gonna lie, this first one you gonna drink. ain't kidding with you by yourself. We get fucked up too. I ain't going to lie. This first one, you going to drink. Let me pour up.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Pour up. Get your shot ready just in case. I got my shot ready. Let's get it. All right. I'm so ready for this. The game or 50 Cent? Shot.
Starting point is 00:52:00 So if I can't answer it, it's a shot. It's a shot I wish game get together but I understand a shot too. Oh, God. By the way, I wish Game and 50 get together. Bro, but I understand. 50 my homie. You hear me? 50 my homie. Yo, can we have some
Starting point is 00:52:11 East Coast, West Coast talk right now? I'm going to just be honest with you. That might have been the worst disconnect that we ever had. Yeah, them niggas
Starting point is 00:52:20 would have been. Because if they were together, 50 and Game, that would have been crazy. I really but I promise you that I wanted to see that I'm sorry that's me I'm sorry Chris back now she's probably ready you know damn oh you got another shot right yeah I think it's a I said I said Chris Brown drinking? They said, maybe not.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Ready? They were wrong. Snoop or Jay-Z? I'm going to go ahead and get my shot ready. All right, now I'm going to go with Snoop. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute. Damn. What the fuck happened?
Starting point is 00:53:01 No, this is Rack of Blood. I'm just, you know, Snoop, what's up, Uncle? You see, I did wear red. Nah, I was trying to comply. To comply? Do I use that? What's my job? OK, next one, Ian, man.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Go to the third one. Trey Songz or Jeremiah? Take a shot. Nah, I'm going to go Trey because that's my brother. He's from VA, so I got to go Trey. Ain't Jeremiah from VA too? Hell nah.
Starting point is 00:53:31 It's Jeremiah from Chicago, I think. Oh, that's right. Yeah, but I fuck with Jeremiah, though. Love you, bro. Trey is my brother, though. Oh, damn. I want to take a shot, but fuck, we can't.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Go ahead. Next one. Big L or Big Pun? Ooh, I'm taking a shot let's go nah but show them they are big man yeah yeah I'm, bro, I'll be doing this show for six years. I've never seen a nigga take a shot like that. Like what? I don't know what you just did. What did he do?
Starting point is 00:54:11 He started dancing? Drunk that shit fast in here? You drunk it like Michael Jackson. I'm not going to say it. Did Michael Jackson take a shot? I felt like it was MJ. It was done. I felt like you moonwalked.
Starting point is 00:54:22 That's not. That shit had to get it going, man. I fuck with you. I fuck with you. The next one. It was MJ. I felt like you moonwalked. That's right. That's how to get it going, man. I fuck with you. I fuck with you. Now, the next one. Yeah, man. You got a quick time slot this time. Nah, you got to do a couple.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Nah. Podcast or radio? You had Big Boy here all day. We understand. But it was not this fun. I'm going to be honest. You're influencing the answer, man. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:54:44 I'm sorry. I'm just thinking about what a podcast is different from the radio. I love the fact this nigga grabbing a shot. He didn't even decide. Did he say both? Yeah, I'm not. But he grabbed it. I'm not playing.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Y'all ain't going to be like, oh, you don't like radio? Yeah. You don't like radio? You need radio. You need. Damn, you on number eight, yo. Yo. God.
Starting point is 00:55:03 You about to go through this almost. I ain't going to lie monster I ain't gonna lie I ain't gonna lie And I thank you so much And I can see you in the room I can feel your presence And some real niggas
Starting point is 00:55:12 Real niggas He only fuck with Two of y'all You know that right Just you and 50 That's it Yo God My brother
Starting point is 00:55:18 Do you realize Do you realize How solid that is Nah Child You and 50 Shit to the whip That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Two real niggas. Okay. Fact. Holy shit. Next one, EFN. Oh, hey, happy birthday, Ant. Nigga, his birthday just passed, too. Oh.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jumping out, kicking out, running. Another shot. Another shot for Ant. No, hell no. He's talking. He's talking. I ain't know if you realize.
Starting point is 00:55:44 This is my job. Did you do this? Okay, okay, okay. Are you ready? Drake or Wayne? Damn, man. Well, I'm biased, bro. I fuck with Drake. That nigga cold as fuck.
Starting point is 00:55:56 One of the main goats right now. But Wayne is ultimate. Yeah, I'm going with a little Wayne. All right, but I got to ask y'all, because this was... I used to go to light-skinned nigga meetings. They never let me in.
Starting point is 00:56:09 They was tripping? Yeah, but when you and Drake caught light-skinned beef. Yeah, that's funny. In New York. Yeah, yeah. In New York,
Starting point is 00:56:20 so we all found it out. Yeah. Don't bother. Shit. One thing I respect about you, you going to go in if you go in. Oh, yeah. I love combativeness, though. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:56:32 I don't even know what that word means, but I love it. What did you say? Combativeness. I don't know what it means. I'm not saying that I welcome all the smoke, but I really don't have no problem with all the smoke. But once the smoke comes to you. Yeah, I love it. It ain't.
Starting point is 00:56:44 And I ain't, it ain't, and I ain't even trying to be tough, none of that. It be the, most of the time, forgive me for saying this, but the niggas that I end up knocking out or beating up, it hurt worse. It hurt worse because they said, you like that or you got beat up by a sick ass nigga.
Starting point is 00:57:00 You got beat up by a sick nigga? So, so, that be even worse. I'd be like, man, man, you don't even want to do this. I already know what's going to happen. We could probably actually be hurt. I've never been this baffled in my life. No, but shit, you got to, man. So, you running down on niggas?
Starting point is 00:57:18 Nah, I'm a little bit more cunning about mine. At the same time, just like, you know what? I'm going to chill. I don't even welcome. I don't really have no beef Or no issue with nobody Okay but let's describe this night Oh that night?
Starting point is 00:57:29 That night Man that was That won't even Between me and him To be real We won't know or need each other When it's happening It was just a whole bunch
Starting point is 00:57:37 Of extra commotion On God So it was never no like Hey bro meet me outside Like it's not It's not that It was never Cause in my mind
Starting point is 00:57:44 Yeah you thought it was A dance off I nothing it was never in my mind yeah you thought it was a dance off I thought it was light skinned a dance off going on it was what's I'm saying
Starting point is 00:57:51 I thought you walked up to him and said yo y'all nah nah nah that's how I thought it happened I was wrong yeah nah
Starting point is 00:57:59 it was just a misunderstanding on both hands they won't know I ain't gonna get into too many details you know it's funny now yeah it's funny it's here now but as far as that I'm gonna take a shot for it It was just a misunderstanding on both hands. They want to know. I ain't going to get into too many details. You know, it's funny now.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Yeah, it's funny as hell now. But as far as that. I'm going to take a shot for it. Yeah, brother, like, he good, though. He straight up. I love how you keep calling everybody blood. I'm into it. I'm into it. So, listen, please, I don't want to be.
Starting point is 00:58:19 It's the last one right here, but I don't have to take it. All right? By the way, no one asked you to take that shot. We're not doing quick time, so we might have to take a lesson. I know, so look, it's this. I'm ready. to take it. All right? By the way, no one asked you to take that shot. All right. We're not doing quick time, so we might have to take a lesson. I know, so look, it's this. I'm ready. Okay, it's this.
Starting point is 00:58:29 I got you, I got you. But that was the best light-skinned beef I've ever heard in my life. Man, it was funny. It was funny. It was funny. And then when we actually sat and talked about it afterwards,
Starting point is 00:58:40 it was just like, man, what the fuck was we doing? Word. Like, bro, that shit was funny as hell. You know? But shit, I'm an R&B nigga. Don't be gay body by R&B nigga. No, I'm just, you know, I be in love with women and stuff, so my emotions should be... No, I love that you in love with women.
Starting point is 00:58:57 I'm being honest with you. Your love for women is great. That got weird. That got weird. It got great. That got weird. That got weird. You got a little awkward. Sorry. You got a little awkward. I got a little awkward.
Starting point is 00:59:11 I'm sorry. Because you know what? I love your love. For the love. You know, I love love. Now listen, let's be clear. I love love. I love love.
Starting point is 00:59:24 I love love. Thanks. A lot of y clear. I love love. I love love. I love love. Facts. A lot of y'all niggas ain't getting it because a lot of y'all niggas don't love love. Facts. And a lot of y'all haven't been loved. And y'all need to be loved. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:36 I'm here with my wife. I love my life. This shit sound perfect. It's the love of my life, Chris Brown. And I love my wife. Facts. That's right. Yeah. Damn you. Facts. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Hell yeah. Facts. But I also love light-skinned beef. Facts. I feel you. It's the best. So, yeah. But how did y'all squash it?
Starting point is 00:59:55 What was it? Y'all went... I think just some years went past. Is this Malibu involved? I don't know why Malibu is involved. No, not at all. He actually had a show out here. Oh, he brought you out?
Starting point is 01:00:05 Yeah, he brought me out to the show. But before, a lot of us have mutual friends, so hey bro, they want to swatch, they want to talk. Hey bro, I ain't really tripping or nothing like that. So then when I got on the phone, it was cool. Then I came out and did the show, and it was straight. My thing is, I don't have to be engulfed in that nigga world or anybody's world and accept them for who they is.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Whatever beef, if it's not impacting me directly, that shit ain't here. I don't care. I don't want to beef with nobody. You feel me? I just looked at it as a, all right, cool. Well, shit, I'm glad we got past it
Starting point is 01:00:40 because it was a time I wanted to kill y'all. But we got past it. Don't lie to kill you. But you kept the moment. I passed it, you know? Don't lie to me. That shot is foul, bro. That nigga says it's a time I wanted to kill you. I did not know you was going to say that. It's just facts. But if Swiss beats and Timberland call you tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Facts, I'm there. Damn, I ain't even tell you your opponent yet. Come on. I'm just letting you know. I'm there to yet come on you just said the heavy hitters fast so I was like alright cool they say we got Drizzy Drake in Canada
Starting point is 01:01:15 ready to go one on one with CB talking about versus yeah he talking about versus I mean you know what? That would be a formidable champ to... That would be crazy. But you got to think,
Starting point is 01:01:31 when we go back to his genres, you know, the consensus was, nah, they don't do the same music. Which you mean? How do you feel the same music? Because you got to understand, I sing 95% of my stuff, and you might hear a scratch of a scribble of rap from me every
Starting point is 01:01:45 now and then. You don't hear it as like, oh yeah, his single coming out, he rapping the whole time. So it's two different genres. I even looked at some of the comments of what they would think about that. I mean, I ain't ducking no smoke, but at the same time- Wait a minute, wait a minute. I know he's a formidable opponent. I know he, that nigga got hits.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Wait a minute. Just like I got hits. So you've been contemplating this? No, it ain't just something I dwell on. I don't know what that word is. It's not something I dwell on. You don't dwell on. But that's, listen, because as a person that tried to be in a light-skinned mafia,
Starting point is 01:02:19 and they never let me sit in. You sound like you did an application and everything. I filled out an application. They never felt it. I'm in the brown skinned nigga. They said, you brown skinned nigga. I said, I can't get to the dog skinned nigga shit neither. I tried to beat them dog skinned niggas. They calling them, denied me. Denied me. I'm in the middle.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I'm Puerto Rican and black and that's it. Yeah. And the light skinned mafia karate minions that y'all go to. Karate minions? Karate minions? Karate minions? Karate minions? Karate minions?
Starting point is 01:02:39 Karate minions? Karate minions? Karate minions? Karate minions? Karate minions? Karate minions? Karate minions? Karate minions? Karate minions? Karate minions? Karate minions? I'm in the middle. I'm Puerto Rican and black, and that's it. Yeah. And the light-skinned mafia karate minions that y'all go to. Karate minions?
Starting point is 01:02:51 Karate minions? Y'all know they got karate minions. It's the self-defense classes. It's self-defense classes. They couldn't do jiu-jitsu? That's the best battle I could ever think of. Nah, it would be dope. You and Dre. I ain't ducking no smoke with that, but at the same time, it'll be dope.
Starting point is 01:03:09 He got a catalog. I got a catalog. Did you hear his new album that just dropped? Yeah. He married 24 bitches in one day. Word. That's hard. I mean, I really like the song with him and 21 Savage.
Starting point is 01:03:23 That shit is fire. That's a video he married 24 bitches? I don't think so. The nigga married 24 bitches. I really like the song with him and 21 Savage. That shit is fire. Is that the video he married 24 bitches? I don't think so. The nigga married 24 bitches. I couldn't believe it. That's crazy. I looked and I said, I'm not sure this is good or bad.
Starting point is 01:03:36 I mean, let him live his life. It's just a video. Relax. Let him do his thing. Yeah, he got it. Go ahead. This nigga Chris Brown is crazy. That's my girl. You see a racist person Go up, turn up It's your fire
Starting point is 01:03:53 Do you believe in marriage? Yeah, I understand what marriage is Chris, this is the only time I'm not with you That was not a good answer Chris I've been with you this whole time She was 16 years old 40 years old, but what the fuck did you just say? No, I understand it I understand what marriage is, but he wants you to believe in it He just want to finger pop pop for the rest of your life? Nah. I just look at it like, being in love is a lot.
Starting point is 01:04:30 I feel like I witness you in love. Yeah. I feel like I witness you in love. Yeah, I kind of like, I'm at like a place in my life now where I'm like, look, my kids, I got to make sure they happy. One, focus on them. That's the most important thing. Number two, like, shit, I'm all shy, so I ain, I got to make sure they happy. One, focus on them. That's the most important thing. Two, like, shit, I'm outside, so I ain't got to dwell on it right now.
Starting point is 01:04:49 I ain't got to be like, hey, this has to happen. I'm outside. I'm with you, my nigga. As a man, I gotta just ride with you. Facts, facts. But shit, yeah. But as an in love nigga?
Starting point is 01:05:10 No. Don't get me wrong. Like, don't underestimate what love is. I just, you know. You still looking for love?
Starting point is 01:05:17 I'm a student right now. That's all I can say. I'm being a student. Student of love? Yeah. I like that. Is that our song together? Student of love? Together. I like that. Is that our song together? Student of love?
Starting point is 01:05:26 Together? Y'all doing that song? I don't even rap no more. Yeah, like you trying to sing and shit? I got you, bro. You want me to sing? And you got to dance, too. You got to dance.
Starting point is 01:05:37 You got to sing and dance. You got to dance. Listen, I'm going to fuck this all up. Nah, but yo, CB, I'm going to be honest with you, bro. When my man Ant hit me up and said, yo, I think I could deliver this. We were so happy and we are still so happy. Man, I appreciate y'all. We want to give you your flowers to your face.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Thank you, man. We want to tell you how much we appreciate you to your face. Thank you, man. We want to tell you how much we appreciate you to your face. Thank you, God. I don't want... Fuck this bullshit. We at Dream Champs, we love you. I love y'all, man. Real shit.
Starting point is 01:06:16 I appreciate that. We respect you and we honor you. And guess what? We're going to keep it going. And we're going to take more shots, too. Let's be clear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Chris Brown,
Starting point is 01:06:29 Chris Brown, let me tell you, you could be at Oprah. You could have Oprah right here at your house, but you picked the y'allers. Yeah, for sure. You know what the y'allers are going to do?
Starting point is 01:06:41 Yeah. We're going to have more fun with you, motherfucker. Hey! But, don't you ever not know that we appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Love y'all, man. Real shit. Thank y'all, man. Real shit. I appreciate that. Thank you, CB. And CB, I don't know what the...
Starting point is 01:06:58 I don't know what kind of passion I'm drinking, but this is crazy. That shit making you passionate or what the fuck? I'm passionate. That's for sure. That shit making you passionate? I'm passionate. That's for sure. That shit works.
Starting point is 01:07:14 You fall in love. That's it. So. We talked about diversity. We talked about diversity. We talked about everybody. We talked even about Michael Jackson. But go back to Michael. No, let's go back to Michael a little bit.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Because I want to know, do you ever go back? And watch his stuff? Yeah. Of course. Do you use that as a template? Yeah, that's like, my daughter loves all this stuff too. So, we'll just be watching it. That must be dope to introduce the kids to.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Sometimes if I run out of inspiration, sometimes my everyday life might be convoluted with other shit that's going on. So the creative side might be blocked for me. Like, damn, what's going on? So I'll just go back to that or certain videos that I've seen as a child, just to reignite the spark again. You know what I'm saying? So a lot of times I use that as a good template, especially with transitioning with films, like how hard it was for them to do certain moves or certain shit. And that's what makes me kind of push it when I start shooting shit.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Like, okay, don't slack up just because you can just smile and look cool in the camera. Nah, go hard. Now, on the creative side, you're saying that, are there any takeaways from everything he went through in his career and his personal life? You're the new Mike Jack. That's it. I mean, I just feel like whatever he was going through in his personal life, shit, there's people right now that don't agree with me personally or don't fuck with me or they think I stand for something else right now.
Starting point is 01:08:50 You get what I'm saying? So I can't dwell on that. I wouldn't want him to dwell on that. Right. You know what I'm saying? This shit will eat you up. You know what I'm saying? Especially this, whatever, the cancel culture, the media.
Starting point is 01:09:04 If you not strong or you ain't coming from a struggle background, you ain't going to be able to survive this shit. You're going to start looking crazy. Oh, he tweaking, he doing this. I know where I come from. So it's like all that shit is fake anyway. You know what I'm saying? Everything else, only thing I got is the product.
Starting point is 01:09:24 I'm going to show you, hey, this is how I do it. And this is what I'm putting out. You feel me? So that's all it is with me. It's just about being myself. And I think Mike, he was himself until it drove him crazy. And that's my brother. Mike ain't do nothing.
Starting point is 01:09:39 I ain't going to lie. I'm with Mike. I'm with Mike. How about OJ? Jesus. What a transition. I thought with Mike. How about OJ? Jesus. What a transition. I thought he was going to Prince. You went with OJ.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Yo, listen. OJ ain't doing neither of the Chris. Come on. Rob me. Rob me. As a black brother, OJ ain't did nothing. You feel me? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Yo, God damn. You with me? Holy shit. Yo, OJ ain't did it. He ain't do what? Why y'all not clapping? Remember, he lives in Kendall. Nah, I'll just...
Starting point is 01:10:14 No, CB, I ain't going to lie, man. Thank you, my brother. I appreciate y'all, man. I appreciate you coming through. They got me tipsy and shit, too, man. No, no, no, we're not ending it. Oh, no, no, no. We're not ending it. Oh, no, no, no. We're not ending it.
Starting point is 01:10:26 We're just making you feel comfortable. Oh, my God. They got me like, look at this. Yo, listen. We're not ending it. We're just making you feel comfortable. This is my trick. All right, let's get it.
Starting point is 01:10:35 That's how I do niggas. I make you feel comfortable at this point. Can we give him a shot? Hell, no. Who you talking to? Hold on, hold on. Who did you talk to right now? In my mind.
Starting point is 01:10:45 It was just somebody. No, I said it was only the first. But yeah, I thought you was talking to me? Hold on, hold on. Who did you talk to right now? In my mind. It was just somebody. Nah, it was only the air pressure. But yeah, I thought you was talking to somebody. All right, come on. The next quick time of slime. Nah, your phone. My phone's gone. Okay, what's the next question?
Starting point is 01:10:53 Yeah, next question. It's a... Yeah, take it. It's Dale Que Tu Puede. Dale Que Tu Puede. Dale, Dale. I know Neil's in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Ponyo. Ponyo. Ponyo. Ponyo. Ponyo. Ponyo. Ponyo. Ponyo. I know Neil's in there. Which one? Usher or Neil. There you go. You said it.
Starting point is 01:11:14 All right. Usher or Neil. And what aspect though? It's whatever. Actually, it's whatever. We just trying to get you to drink. Yeah. Whatever you're going to drink. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Whatever you're going to drink to. Well, shit, I can't say both, but- Don't say both because you're going to get out of the drink. I'm going to go with Usher if we're talking about performance artists, the whole nine. Who's like, yeah, boom. But Ne-Yo has written so much amazing shit and a great artist, but I'm going to just go as far as entertainer, Usher. Okay. Let me ask you this, though.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Because you said something that's very, very vital to rappers, right? You just said, Usher. The writing part? You said, Usher, forgive the part you said,
Starting point is 01:11:57 but then you said, Ne-Yo has wrote so much why in hip-hop that is frowned upon. Because. If I was to write a song for you, right? Like if Chris Brown was to come to me and say, y'all want to write a song about Queens, New York. And then you say to me, Nori, I want you to write it.
Starting point is 01:12:17 And I write it. It's frowned upon. Yeah. But you know what it is? Because it depends on the artist. Right. In a hip-hop standpoint. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:28 If you stand on your business or you have, you rapping and you doing your shit. Right. We don't want to hear about somebody else's robbery. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:12:35 if you say you an MC. You feel me? Right. So, we not going to respect from a hip-hop concert to be like, man,
Starting point is 01:12:41 that's hard that nigga wrote it for him. Like, well, then what are we listening to you for? Then we can listen to this nigga. But why is that nigga wrote it for him. Like, well, then what are we listening to you for? Then we can listen to this nigga. But why is that accepted in R&B?
Starting point is 01:12:49 Because everybody can't sing. I can't sing. So guess what? No matter who, I always say it like this, right? Because I never discredit writers who write on my album. I got hella co-writers, and we do certain shit, right? Describe us. It's just like this.
Starting point is 01:13:05 They can write it. Who gonna sing it like me? So at the end of the day, you might can write some beautiful shit that, hey, it gets overlooked because it don't sound good. But a singer has more of a percentage
Starting point is 01:13:19 to be like, you know what? Hey, make this motherfucker mine. You know? So it's different. And with me, I always give credit to my co-writers and co-producers and shit. I don't see that as a... Because you wish this shit. That's some key words.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Yeah, but it would be so lame of me to be like, well, I just wrote this when I was going through this. That's cap as hell, man. I got a collective dope group of young individuals, and we always write some shit. The same amount of people that can see the song, they're like, okay, they wrote the majority of that, but then they'll see me see that they one-up me on that, and be like, watch this, then. And I go in there, I give them a song, Privacy, or I give them a song that I wrote by myself and be like, see, told you I could do it. So it's different in the singing aspect. Rappers, you better learn your shit. Ain't no nigga ever wrote a rap for me. Okay, rap this and sing this. Nah, I'll sing it.
Starting point is 01:14:05 I ain't rap, nah, I write my own rap. You feel me? It's just a different. Not even T-Pain when you and T-Pain? Nah,
Starting point is 01:14:11 T-Pain is my nigga. T-Pain, he did Kiss Kiss with me and all that. But as far as like, okay, we want to hear you rap and no melody.
Starting point is 01:14:19 We want you to just get off. Because you'll be getting down though. But that's me. That ain't like, okay, cool, my homie wrote this in the car for me five minutes ago.
Starting point is 01:14:26 That's what we thought. Nah, never. I wouldn't even do it. That's the MC in here. That's the hip hop in here. What the fuck I'm even going to touch it for? I'd be like, you know what? Let's just do a regular interview.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Let's not do Renewing Rap this time. If that's the case, I ain't fucking with that shit. Your voice choices is ill, though. Would you believe me? But yeah, I feel like rappers need that. If you're going to sing and have a whole lot of people, you need to have a whole lot of people. I ain't fucking with that shit. Your voice choice was as ill. Would you believe me? So, but yeah. I feel like rappers need that.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Rappers need that. Like, if you're going to sing and have a hook, why is it... Let me ask you something. Why is it accepted in R&B and it's not accepted in... He said because not everybody could sing. Yeah, not everybody could sing.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Yeah, not everybody could sing. I just feel like the rappers, too. Like, don't get me wrong. There's hella motherfuckers that wrote for girl rappers or guy rappers. It just doesn't work for everybody. Yeah, but if there's a hook. Like, the chorus, right?
Starting point is 01:15:11 And somebody wrote the hook. I'm not judging a fucking artist that rapped on a song because the hook was opening up some R&B shit. Wow. No, but if you get up there and you start talking about some shit that you trying to sell yourself. Rapping is different than singing. You trying to sell yourself. Rapping is different than singing. You trying to sell you. I can sell a dream with music. With vocals.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Right. With a voice. You got to be the one unique voice out the bunch that a nigga want to hear. So we don't want to hear no wires in between that shit. That's just my take on it. I just love your honesty, bro. No, I love your honesty. But you did say dream.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Yeah. If you and dream go versus, you spoke in dreams as well, right? Yeah, for sure. Dream? Dream is cool as fuck. I ain't hating on him, bro. He's a great writer. But hell nah.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Come on, man. Hell nah. Next question. Ready? Holy shit. Quick, quick time. Missy or Eve? Ooh, Missy.
Starting point is 01:16:14 I got to go Missy, VH. Because that's Virginia? And she produce, rap, sing, everything. People don't know how great that woman is. That woman is phenomenal. No, no, Missy is great. Yeah. Missy is great. We. Missy is great.
Starting point is 01:16:25 We need our own drink chance, by the way. Facts. She cold. Scott Storch or Timbaland? Shit. I'm going to drink. I love your style. Yeah, I ain't playing with them.
Starting point is 01:16:38 I ain't some ghost. Cheers, cheers, cheers. I done seen Scott Storch do some amazing fucking shit. Me too. With a keyboard. Me too. And I done seen Timbaland do some amazing fucking shit. Scott Storch do some amazing fucking shit. Me too. With a keyboard. And I've seen Timbaland do some amazing fucking shit with his book. Scott Storch is my brother.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Scott Storch is my brother. Just doing something. We love Scott Storch. So, yeah. I love that you're drinking today. And Timbaland, man. Love Timbaland too. Facts.
Starting point is 01:16:56 By the way, can we, I just want to, I'm going to be honest. Every time you took a shot, it's different. It's the way you take a shot. I'm doing dance moves with my shot. You're doing dance moves with your shot. I got to convince myself that it's cool, you feel me? And guess what? You win!
Starting point is 01:17:18 Keep it going. Keith Sweat or Johnny Gill? You taking the shot? Keith Sweat. You taking the shot? Oh, Keith Sweat. Okay Gill? You taking the shot? Keith Sweat. Oh, Keith Sweat. Okay. Johnny Gill's dope, but Keith Sweat, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Keith Sweat. I rolled in the elevator with Keith Sweat. You did what? I rolled in the elevator with Keith Sweat. Keith Sweat got bitches right now. Like, right now. Yes, he does. Female. Sorry, ladies.
Starting point is 01:17:40 I ain't gonna say that. He has women right now. All right. Pharrell or Kanye for real he did that quick you already said Joel is a bully is that personal
Starting point is 01:17:51 hell nah Pharrell's just a goat he is the goat he's the goat he is the goat everybody wanna be like Pharrell man we gonna leave
Starting point is 01:18:00 all of something in the water tomorrow yeah I'm not sure if we gonna make it you make it bro to make it. You make it, bro. You make it.
Starting point is 01:18:08 This bro is fucking me up right now. You definitely smoking tongue right now. Ding-a-da-ding-a-ding-a-da! This is Brown. This is the coach. We with this, Brown. Fab or Jadakiss? Ooh, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:18:24 I'm taking a shot. I'm not playing. They my brothers. Got it, got it, got it. Can I pour you a shot? You pour mine? Fuck no. I'm trying to pour a little bit at a time.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Y'all trying to give me a... I knew, I knew, I knew. This is where you're going with it. But yo, he's just the smoothest shot taker in the world. This is how you take a shot. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to try to do... Do your best Chris Brown shot. Chrisest shot taker in the world. This is how you take a shot. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to try to do Chris Brown's shot taker. What did you do?
Starting point is 01:18:55 That's how you take a shot. It's mad more smoother. I can't, what is it called? Imitate? Imitate what you're doing. But you're intimidating. I'm going to take one more shot. One more.
Starting point is 01:19:12 One more. One more again? Yeah. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the MeatEater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser-known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams
Starting point is 01:19:47 and best-selling author and meat-eater founder Stephen Rinella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the
Starting point is 01:20:06 West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution.
Starting point is 01:20:41 But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that Taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated.
Starting point is 01:21:02 I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
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Starting point is 01:21:30 I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man.
Starting point is 01:21:42 We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug ban is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Caramouch. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen.
Starting point is 01:23:09 What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Beaver or Timberlake?
Starting point is 01:23:56 Timberlake. Okay. Like as far as, I don't know, whatever you want it to be. Beaver's my brother, but Timberlake is like a goat. You know them both. He's a goat. Yeah, those Timberlake is like a goat. You know them both. He's a goat. Those are the greatest white boys in the world. We love these people.
Starting point is 01:24:10 Besides Diego and Eric. Is Eric here? You're just talking about him? I just do that. Because I'm a great person. Mariah or Janet? Oh, Janet. I like that.
Starting point is 01:24:24 Busta or Eminem? Busta. I love Eminem, but Busta. That nigga killed your shit. Busta. His rhymes are way better than that. That nigga killed your shit. He's crazy.
Starting point is 01:24:40 And he still is killing. No, to this day. Busta's killing to this day. What are we talking about? He's a problem. Yeah. We got some new shit too. Oh yeah?
Starting point is 01:24:49 We got some new shit. Nigga ain't called me. We just have a homie-type joint. Oh shit. Hell yeah. Different little vibe. He on his different bag. I fuck with it.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Monica or Brandy? Ooh. I'm going to tell you right now. I always say my favorite female vocalist is Brandy, so I got to go with Brandy. Monica is family for real though, so she going to cuss me out later. I'm sorry, baby. But yeah, Brandy for sure.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Rob Markman, Jr.: Didn't Brandy just... She beefed with somebody. She was battling somebody recently. I don't know. I feel like I got to call Ray J right now. Rob Markman, Jr.: Oh yeah, Ray J the homie. Rob Markman, Jr.: Where did she battle? She battling somebody. She spits on that shit. I feel like I was the secondie. What did she buy? She bought him something. She spit some of that shit.
Starting point is 01:25:26 I feel like I was taking a shot. Let me just, let me just. Jack Harlow. Jack Harlow. Oh no, the Brandy beat with Jack Harlow. That's what happened. But her rhymes were L though. She spit some L rhymes.
Starting point is 01:25:36 No, no, no. What happened was, what happened was Jack Harlow didn't, didn't know that Brandy and Ray J was brothers. He didn't diss her. He didn't was brothers. He didn't diss her. He didn't diss her.
Starting point is 01:25:46 He didn't diss her. But her rhymes were ill, though. Her rhymes were ill. Jack Harlow is a white person that is down with us. Nah, I fuck with Jack. He on my album. Yeah, he on your album. We love him.
Starting point is 01:25:56 He on my album. I'm being honest. Jack is the homie, man. He can come to the cookout, man. For sure come to the cookout. Am I invited to the cookout? Nigga. I just want to go to a Chris Brown party. He's going to be the cookout. Am I invited to the cookout? Nigga. I just want to go to a Chris Brown party.
Starting point is 01:26:08 He's going to be your cookout. Yeah. I do, though. He don't want to throw a party. Let me be honest. I be seeing your house online. Do y'all throw cookouts here? Shit, no.
Starting point is 01:26:18 We throw parties and shit. What do y'all throw? We just be having vibes. I'm a married man. Nah, but vibes. Do we have married man? Like Taco Tuesdays. We'll do Taco Tuesdays. We'll have food and then it'll just be like me and six of the homies and like 20 girls.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Yeah, I don't need to be a part of that party. Nah, just be chillin'. Just come with your wife, bro. You good. It ain't no slut party, no crazy shit. I be vibing. But I can chill. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:49 I just want to go in here. You might as well come with naked girls. No, I don't want no naked girls. No, they just free to do whatever they want. That ain't got nothing to do with me, though. They're free. I can still go home and vibe with you. You said they're free.
Starting point is 01:27:01 You just might see a naked girl just walk past you. Just, yeah. Just, bro, I don't want to be a part of that. You don't have see a naked girl just walk past you. Just... Just for... I don't want to be a part of that. You don't have to be. I was just telling you. I was just... I just want to be a part of the good part.
Starting point is 01:27:11 And I'll be... So go to the other side. Listen, listen. Ray J said I'm his married friend. Yeah. But then he didn't listen to none of my advice. So I didn't want to be his married friend. No, Ray J my homie for life. He went and talked to the police for me. I didn't want to be his married friend. No, Ray J, my
Starting point is 01:27:25 homie for life, he went and talked to the police for me. I don't even... I don't know where this is going. Yeah, I'll tell you the story. It's funny. So, remember years ago when the girl claimed that I pulled a gun on her in my house? Like, the SWAT was out here and all kinds of crazy shit? Yeah. The craziest shit
Starting point is 01:27:41 ever. Ray J and them was here. I was asleep the majority of that incident. Ray J, they had a tattoo party here. So, Ray J up in here, boom, boom. I wake up. You said a tattoo party? Yeah. So, certain people have tattoos.
Starting point is 01:27:53 I'm saying it was hella people, hella girls in here. So, I guess whatever went down happened. The police just came in this here. I'm like, what the fuck is all this swat outside for? They're like, bro, I don't know. I'm going to go talk to him. I said, no, don't go outside. Is Ray J telling you that?
Starting point is 01:28:07 Man, what? I said, don't go outside. I was watching this. But I'm talking about in the morning time, before that shit happened. Yeah, I didn't watch that. So he go outside. I'm like, bro, I can't believe they even tripping.
Starting point is 01:28:16 What the fuck going on? He go outside. Look, we turn on the music. The cop's like, yeah, just send the owner out here. Let's talk to him right quick. He's like, don't sleep. Yeah, we're going to bed. Y'all can have a fucking good night.
Starting point is 01:28:29 Like, solid as a moth. I'm talking about other motherfuckers. I'm talking about niggas that we know, rappers, all kinds. Hey, bro, I'm going to try to get in trouble. Man, shut your bitch ass up. But Ray J was a real one that went out there. You know what I'm saying? After everybody seen that the motherfucker was actually lying and it was bullshit,
Starting point is 01:28:47 everybody didn't want to say nothing about it. It just went quiet. Like, come on, you know what I'm saying? But Ray J was the first one to jump off the porch and be like, hey, bro. No. Like, bro, you didn't have to do that. That nigga been famous for a long time, too. Nah, but I fuck with bro.
Starting point is 01:29:00 Let's be clear. That nigga been on Living Single. What? Nah, that nigga was in the Superman shit. What's up? Ray J. That nigga should be on that, bro. What Shaq?
Starting point is 01:29:12 What Shaq you want me to be? Not Kazam. The other one, Steel. He and that. He and that. Ray J and that. He is? Yeah, he is.
Starting point is 01:29:20 Wait, I don't know what you're talking about, but I love it. He don't know. But you know what I'm saying? I love it. I'm a solid nigga though. That solid nigga. Are we taking another shot? Nah, but he know he a solid nigga, so I two friends and I'm like what I'm saying? I love it. But Ray J is a solid nigga though. That solid nigga. Are we taking another shot? No, but he know he a solid nigga.
Starting point is 01:29:30 So I have two friends in here for my life. I feel like we should take a shot for Ray J. No, no. We should take the shot. I'm going to load up. How about this? I'm not going to take this shot. I'm just going to load up. Bro, I see you drink more than you smoke.
Starting point is 01:29:41 You scared of the weed or something? Oh, no. He definitely not scared of the weed. I don't know what he's going to do. Let me just tell you something. I'm outside. See me? I'm outside.
Starting point is 01:29:50 You're keeping it light right now. Yeah, exactly. He testing me. I'm good. Are you ready? Soldier Boy or Bow Wow? I'll be real. I'll have to say Bow because, like I said,
Starting point is 01:30:03 Bow is like the real pioneer to show me how to be an artist. Show me shit of stage presence. That's hard. You know what I'm saying? So Bow. I'm be real. I'll have to say bow because, like I said, bow is like the real pioneer to show me how to be an artist. Showmanship, stage presence. That's hard. You know what I'm saying? So bow. I'm going bow. So you're going bow. You're going bow. So is my homie too, though. But yeah, bow. Thriller or off the wall? Ooh. Depends on what type of Michael Jackson you like.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Which one do you like? Yeah, I got it. I feel like this is the last shot. I'm going to say Off the Wall. Ooh. I don't know why. I thought you would have said Thriller. I thought he would have said Thriller.
Starting point is 01:30:33 Because once you know that, that was some shit that when he first broke out, where he was getting his essence from, people weren't ready for that sound. So by the time his other shit came, they was already yearning for some other shit. So that's why they went back and listened to it after that. And so Off the Wall was, yeah. Dre or Puff? I'm going to go off my relationships. I'll say Puff. Dre, I know Dre. Dre cool. All respect. West Coast, all that. But I really, I'm like family
Starting point is 01:31:06 with Puff and him. I feel like we should still take a shot for that. You can take a shot for that. You just taking a shot without, that's not the rules bro, relax. You know when they be like, yo I'm nice. That's how I feel right now, I'm nice. You right there, sir. Yeah. I don't want to be like, yo what we doing? Let him go with the rules of the game.
Starting point is 01:31:23 Deserve it. He want to drink. Make him drink. No, he got to drink. He's growing mad. He can drink. Look, he ain't even look. Full ass cup and shit. First kick.
Starting point is 01:31:31 I feel like you just think. Nah. Look, I'm going to fill the glass up in case I have to drink, but I don't think so. Listen, this nigga's playing the game. He's playing the game. Hold on, hold on, hold on. He know he going to drink that. Good.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Marvin Gaye or Smokey Robinson? Marvin Gaye. He said that quick. Damn. Marvin Gaye or Smokey Robinson? Marvin Gaye. He said that quick. Damn. Al Green or Teddy Pendergrass? Al Green. Jeez. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:31:52 MJ or Prince? Shit. MJ. No Prince interactions? Prince is amazing. I ain't hating. Do you have a Prince story? We love Prince stories.
Starting point is 01:32:01 Okay, cool. You met Prince? I got a Prince story. Fuck no. Please, please. I got a Prince story. Let's go. Give us a Prince stories. Okay, cool. You met Prince? I got a Prince story. Fuck no! Please, please. I got a Prince story. Let's go. Give us a Prince story.
Starting point is 01:32:07 So Prince story, this is like probably one of my most influential shit, but my saddest shit. Like, I had called a case, right, in D.C. at one point. With Prince? No, no. Hell no. That would have been epic, though. That would have been epic.
Starting point is 01:32:24 No. You want to say this thing, and then go to the case of Prince? That's hard. epic, though. That would have been epic. No. I was saying this thing, and then go to Gainesville. That's all. Let's go. So I called a case in D.C., a fighting case. So when,
Starting point is 01:32:33 instead of me, like, turning myself in for violating probation, I turned myself in to a rehab. So it'll look, you know what I'm saying? Like, damn, well, I got a problem, so I need to stay in, so they won't put me in jail. I ain't never told nobody that.
Starting point is 01:32:45 But on the way, literally on the way to go check myself into the spot, you know what I'm saying? It was emotional. Prince is dead? Nah, hell no, listen. Let him Prince it out, bro. Yeah, so on the way to the spot, right? Sorry, I just want Prince to be everywhere.
Starting point is 01:32:59 Like, so on the way to the spot, like mind you, like I've never really been around bro, or been like in a setting. So then literally in the spot, like, mind you, like, I've never really been around, bro, or been, like, in a setting. So then literally in the car getting there, I get a call, and I'm like, yo, I'm like, what's up? Like, hello. Like, his voice deep as hell. Wait, in the car you get a call from? Yeah, yeah, from him, from Prince.
Starting point is 01:33:18 And I was like, yo, he's like, I just want to be able to show you how to navigate through this stuff. And I'm like, I'm here for you, bro. Wait, hold up, but y'all never had a prior relationship? Never. No. But he reached out, like, honestly. Because I guess he could see what type of shit I was going through. So he reached out.
Starting point is 01:33:34 So the difference was, throughout that time, I got incarcerated after that. So by the time I got out and really kind of shook back, he had died. You know what I'm saying? So I really never got a chance to kind of, like, he had died. You know what I'm saying? So I really never got a chance to kind of like link with him. What did he tell you, though, like if you could say? No, basically he was just saying like, you know, don't lose focus. He's like, whatever. He was just trying to like uplift you at the moment.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Yeah, but he was saying it's more of like a, he wanted to have a conversation about being special. You get what I'm saying? So I feel like I didn't get all the knowledge that I was supposed to get from him. But at the same time, I was appreciative that even somebody in my worst time called me with no tie to me to be like, I understand what you're going through or whatever. So I just need you to understand your power or your light. So that idea kind of made me ask the question more, like, what am I doing this for?
Starting point is 01:34:29 You know what I'm saying? So yeah, I haven't really told anybody that story, but it's a true story. That's dope. That's probably my best story I've ever heard. You met Prince. I met him once and it was Shit I don't know
Starting point is 01:35:07 But let's clarify some shit he the only nigga that can go ass out and then fuck your mom, fuck your mama's mom. And where's the letter? And then say, come on, we're going to go get our hands done at the same time. And she going to still be on my payroll. He was out there. That's how your prince is over. Yeah, he's the host. Do not play with Prince like that.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Prince is not playing, man. He was not playing, man. But CB, I'm so sorry to put this pressure on you. Yeah. But that's who you are. Prince? I ain't Prince. You Prince? Hell no.
Starting point is 01:35:34 I don't have to be. No, no. CB, CB. You should do it. First of all, let's just give other niggas their flowers too. I'm giving you your flowers today. I do my shit, but Prince play every instrument listen
Starting point is 01:35:48 Can I tell you he broke away from the Prince and Michael Jackson had a baby You making some crazy shit. I ain't walking around with my ass out. What are you talking about? Leave the ass out. Leave the ass out. No ass out. But Chris Brown, in case you don't know. You are the child.
Starting point is 01:36:19 You are our errors. The ultimate light skin. No, no light skin. This got nothing to do with light skin no more. Creatively. You are our heiress. When you drop an album, we stand around and we wait. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:36:33 When you drop a single, we stand around and we listen. Dope. And in case you don't know, we know exactly who the fuck you are. I appreciate that and we're going to honor it and we're going to salute it and we're going to respect you that way
Starting point is 01:36:51 fact and in case you don't know if Michael Jackson and Prince had a baby it's you nigga I'm sorry I went too far I guess we just got to clap for that.
Starting point is 01:37:05 You got to clap for it. Michael and Prince, huh? That's hard, though. Ain't that hard? I mean, they're great, man. I know. I just painted a spot downtown. It's for the Grammy organization we did.
Starting point is 01:37:18 But I painted, they just let me do a mural. So I put James Brown, Prince, and Michael, and then me in the side. But I did it a couple years ago. I forgot the other thing. But I did it to the point where they can't pull it off. So if they wanted to retry it, it's hard. I kind of made my shit forever. But that's who you are, sir.
Starting point is 01:37:36 I'm going to be honest. Because I see you being so humble. Because me and your beautiful house, by the way you had, beautiful everything. Thank you. But I just wanted to tell you, Case, you're trying to be too humble. Man, fuck that. I'm being real. I think this is me.
Starting point is 01:37:51 It's just I don't get it. You that nigga, y'all. Yeah, I appreciate it. I don't want you to say you appreciate it. I want you to say yes. I was going to be like, yeah, nigga. Nigga, nigga, nigga. All right.
Starting point is 01:38:04 Yeah, cook up. Listen,. Yeah, cook them up. Listen, let me just tell you something. Every time I interview somebody, I go to Twitter. Mm-hmm. But this time, I didn't, because I wanted to be,
Starting point is 01:38:16 like, I wanted this to be secretive. Mm-hmm. So we looked on Twitter, and you know what everyone told me? Chris Brown is dropping an album on the 25th. Yeah, they was talking about you to us. Y'all got to go see Chris Brown.
Starting point is 01:38:30 And I'm looking. No, no, I screenshotted every one of these niggas. I want these niggas to feel good later. Yeah. You got to give them that shout-out because they requested it. Let's be clear. A lot of people don't. I don't do interviews because I'll be real.
Starting point is 01:38:44 A lot of times I don't do interviews because it's just the wrong narrative. It's not a... But you want to drink some Ace of Spades? You want to take a shot? Yeah, I know. He says wrong narrative. You're like, drink some more.
Starting point is 01:38:52 He's drunk, man. This is your brother having fun with you, man. Man, we appreciate you having us here. I don't want everyone to be all motherfuckers. Bring up my nigga Ant. But look, guess what? It's about giving you your flowers. Appreciate that. And we're going,
Starting point is 01:39:07 because you know why? I feel like you ain't accept your flowers for a long time. I feel like when the industry was telling you how great you were, you didn't actually. Maybe, I mean, but I feel like I got a lot of work to do. Like, I don't feel like
Starting point is 01:39:23 I don't, even if my father's not given, that ain't going to really stop my objective. So I'm like, shit, let the flowers pile up. You know what I'm saying? That's real. If I don't see them, shit, that'll pile up right now. Because I'm going to just keep the work at the same level. I'm going to work like ain't no flowers.
Starting point is 01:39:41 I'm going to work like, hey, cool, I got to make flowers. You know what I'm going to work like ain't no flowers. I'm going to work like, hey, cool. I got to make flowers. You know what I'm saying? So I don't think the drive for me dissipates or goes away. It's just a different outlook, you know? And it's crazy. For the catalog like his, from the career, from the age he started, to still have that drive is incredible. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:03 And his weed hitting too, though. I ain't even kidding. Yeah, please, please. Can you smoke more of our weed, please? This weed. And Kanye West smoked this weed. He gave me the bag, so I'm, you know. We got the gumbo.
Starting point is 01:40:13 We got the smoke chants. I've been on these ass chants for about two weeks. So how about, how about, how about, because that was a relationship. You and Kanye. How about you and Kanye? Shit. Where y'all at? Shit, I'm cool. Like, even with me, like, you know, I'm goofy you and Kanye? Shit, I'm cool.
Starting point is 01:40:27 Even with me, you know, I'm goofy, so I'm going to roast the hell out of him. So I know he was mad because I roasted him about his haircut. I did, too. Shit, the whole world did, man. We saw it, buddy. We love everything else but that. His haircut wasn't right.
Starting point is 01:40:43 No, but bro good. Me and him like there's no issue I understand his madness and genius at the same time so
Starting point is 01:40:51 like I would never even get on the platform and try to diss or be like man he's doing a lot for black people man like as far as being
Starting point is 01:40:59 the first it don't even matter as long as you pioneer some shit you the first to do it so we gonna respect it and anybody that don't respect it it's lame as fuck. So I'll take it. I'll fuck with Kanye You know, we're taking a shot. I do I take a shot for you take a shower for you. Don't get the haircut no more
Starting point is 01:41:18 Yay does what the fuck yeah wants to do right Come on how much more questions you got? This is your day. Today you Quick Time was live. Chico. Today you Quick Time was live. So it's Quick Time with EFN then. Quick Time with EFN.
Starting point is 01:41:33 Al Green. Oh, no. We said that already. Bobby Brown or I'll Be Sure? Bobby Brown. He a GOAT too, man. Shout out to Bobby, man. Fuck all that.
Starting point is 01:41:43 And I'll Be Sure too. Let's just be clear. I'll Be Sure, cool. Bobby Brown. out to Bobby, man. Fuck all that. And Al B. Shaw, too. Let's just be clear. Al B. Shaw, cool. Bobby Brown. Al B. Shaw's a legend. That nigga's in the light-skinned community. Al B. Shaw's a legend. That's y'all opinion. Bobby Brown is damn evil.
Starting point is 01:41:51 No, Bobby Brown, no. He is. Bobby Brown is the guy. You hear me? Bobby Brown. Prerogative. Bobby Brown was a friend. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:41:58 Everything, yeah. Everything Bobby Brown. And listen, do you know Bobby Brown cooked chicken with cocaine? You can't always just bring that up, dog. That can't be the only thing about Bobby Brown that you want to bring up. I love it. Hey, it was a point in time when Bobby Brown had every female in the world at his core. So I say, man, Bobby is Bobby.
Starting point is 01:42:18 And his last name Brown, so I'm never hating on him. You got to. Going back to my old edition. You got Terry Motors. I respect you. Yeah, yeah. All right, let's go. Bobby Brown, you know what I'm saying? It's new edition. You got Terry Modis. I respect you. Yeah, yeah. All right, let's go. Bobby Brown, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:42:27 It's Brown bias. You're a legend forever. Okay, let's go. Otis Redding or Sam Cooke? Sam Cooke. Erykah Badu or Alicia Keys? I fuck with sis, but Erykah Badu started all that. Stevie Wonder or Luther Vandross?
Starting point is 01:42:43 Stevie Wonder. New edition of Jackson 5? Jackson 5. TLC, SWV? SWV. And then, you want to say the last one? No, I feel like you got to keep it going. This is the last one that we say in every episode.
Starting point is 01:43:04 Loyalty or respect? Looks like a shot. This is the last one that we say in every episode. Uh-huh. Loyalty or respect? We'll take a shot. Relax, bro. I just want to take a shot. Let him give his answer, man. Can't go right to the shot. Damn. I would say loyalty.
Starting point is 01:43:22 Because if you're loyal to me, you already respect me. You know what I'm saying? So I go say loyalty. Because if you're loyal to me, you already respect me. You know what I'm saying? So I go with loyalty. You can fear me and still respect me if you're scared of me. But at the same time, I don't want to bring fear out. I'm going to say yes. I'm more loyalty. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:41 I just want to make some noise for that. Can we take a shot, though? I took one. You want to take a shot? Just say for that can we take a shot those there I took one you want to take a shot just say take a shot take a shot listen we are celebrating your album
Starting point is 01:43:51 we are celebrating I'm not trying to celebrate in the motherfucking toilet did you say celebrate yeah celebrate yeah but we celebrating
Starting point is 01:43:59 your new album yeah but not just your new album we celebrating your whole career we celebrating your whole fucking career yeah your whole life, and how I kind of felt like I put you on. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:44:12 He's like, I held your hand, young Ken. You're the man that brought you in the studio. I'm talking about what? Let's be clear, I do need a hook. I don't even make music no more. So how I'm going to do with this hook? Yeah, so send it. Let me hear what it sound like.
Starting point is 01:44:20 I'm going to keep it a thousand. If it's hard, I'm like, yeah, I got you. You see what the real... Why we do this? I'm going to keep it a thousand. I'm going to keep it a thousand. I'm going to keep it a thousand. I'm going to keep it a thousand. I'm going to keep it a thousand how I'm going to do it? Yeah, so send it. Let me hear what it sounds like. I'm going to keep it a thousand. If it's hard, I'm going to be like, yeah, I got you. You see what the real, why we do Drink Champs? Drink Champs so he can do an album at the end of Drink Champs.
Starting point is 01:44:33 No, no, this will be Drink Champs album. Hey, but you should make every nigga that's done with the show do a feature with you. Imagine I could do that. You got to pull that. Imagine I could do that. Imagine I got to do, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're going viral. I'm going. We could have done it. Imagine I could do, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going viral. I'm going.
Starting point is 01:44:46 We could have done it. We can do it. But you know who's our biggest episode this year? You, nigga! I appreciate that. Come on. Are we taking shots?
Starting point is 01:45:02 Are we taking... I just took my motherfucking shot. No, come on. I see it. I know you see it. I gave you my studio set. So y taking shots? Are we taking shots? I just took my motherfucking shot. No, come on. I see it. I know you see it. I gave you my studio session. So y'all going to see me gave you my studio session. You know that's Boya Loco right there, right?
Starting point is 01:45:10 I gave you my studio session. It's that Loco. You were here. Let's go. But I'm not going to lie. I'm really, really, really proud of you. I appreciate that, bro. Thank you so much, man.
Starting point is 01:45:21 Why, why, why, why at some point you didn't reach the level that you was at and just quit? And just say, you know, because I've been there where the level where I've been like, all right, cool. I got everything. I can just leave. Why you didn't ever do that? I think that was just the easy thing to do. Like, I think that would have been like the easy route. And you know what I'm saying? Even my struggle before that, whatever, my whole life I've been able to be creative in
Starting point is 01:45:51 chaos. So it's like, regardless of whatever's going on, I understand the end goal and where I was trying to be and what I wanted to do. So when I even got a little bit of success, if some certain fan loved my song or they heard some shit, I'd be like, okay, cool. So where I'm at and where the frequency of the pocket I'm in is good. People are going through the same shit. So I think the transition was me understanding and then actually building a bigger audience,
Starting point is 01:46:18 not based off of just looks or me just trying to make shit on a skate, on a weird scale. It was more so like I could see that they really appreciated the music. He just wants to pull the shot. Yeah, he going to have to drink that one. We at his house. We are. It's a beautiful day. It's not a beautiful day.
Starting point is 01:46:43 We in here. Chris Brown smoking. Smoke champs. Smoke champs. Oh smoking smoke champs. Smoke champs. Smoke champs. And gumbo. He's smoking everything. Gumbo for sure. Gumbo and drink champs.
Starting point is 01:46:53 Is he your first time smoking gumbo? I smoke gumbo before. Come on. What are you doing? Niggas really smoke like that. So that's like my only like... I'm sorry. I just want to take a shot at you.
Starting point is 01:47:08 I'm going to let you do it. Look. I'm going to let you take the shot. Fuck me. You feel me? I don't know what that meant. Take it from me. You got it.
Starting point is 01:47:15 He said by yourself, my friend. Look, look, look. Chris Brown. Look, look. You got it. I got you. I got you. Now, look.
Starting point is 01:47:23 So good thing I'm by your side. Let me go another half. The is your bathroom is 13 steps away. Nah, I ain't going up there. You think I'm going up? You know what I'm saying? You think I'm going up? Nah, I don't think you are. Nah.
Starting point is 01:47:32 But it's a lot. Listen. We're going to go half and half. I'm, like, already feeling it. My eyes are going upside down. No, if you even take a shot, fuck that. Don't deal with the peer pressure, bro. You ain't got to deal with the peer pressure.
Starting point is 01:47:46 So, we already established that you said you'll smoke anybody in versus. Everybody. Usher. You don't want Cisco. Hey, Cisco. Or the whole Drew Hill. It's like, I don't want Sisqo. Seriously. Or the Hall of Druhills. I don't want people to hear it. Sisqo is fucking amazing. But Sisqo was the bad at one point.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Let's not fall on Sisqo. What you mean? Hell yeah, Sisqo like- Thong Song was hard. No bullshit. Let's just be clear. But they can't hate on that. They can't hate on Thong Song.
Starting point is 01:48:20 They can't hate on Thin. Sisqo still, you know what I'm saying, vocally, all that. Mario too though, I'm going to be real, Mario probably was like- Oh shit, Mario was like- I'm going to be real, Mario probably was like- Oh shit still, you know what I'm saying, vocally, all that. And he was outside- Mario too, look. I'm going to be real.
Starting point is 01:48:29 Mario probably was like- Oh shit, Mario. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mario, like you motherfuckers got to give him his flowers. Like Mario Raw. We love Mario. Singing like, yeah, that boy can sing. For sure.
Starting point is 01:48:40 We don't want him against you though. That's not what we're saying. You know what I mean? Him is, it's like we family. It ain't want him against you though. That's not what we're saying. You know what I mean? Him, it's like we family. It ain't even no versions. I can appreciate his talent and say, look, the boys are- All about Chris Brown. He does not diss anybody.
Starting point is 01:48:54 No, I can't, because I- I love how you do not diss anybody. I love how you do not diss anybody. His album was on the line, bro. He said, you know, I'm Chris Brown. He said, you know, I'm Chris Brown. He said, you know, I'm Chris Brown. He said, you know, I'm Chris Brown.
Starting point is 01:49:02 He said, you know, I'm Chris Brown. He said, you know, I'm Chris Brown. He said, you know, I'm Chris Brown. He said, you know, I'm Chris Brown. He said, you know, I'm Chris Brown. He said, you know, I'm Chris Brown. He said, you sing. I'm Chris Brown. I used to braid my hair and they grew hair just so I could sing, braid my hair. You feel me? So you got to give people that confidence. Wait, say that again? I used to grow hair just so I could have a song on the braid my hair shit, my shit. I used to have long hair and be able to sing Mario shit.
Starting point is 01:49:17 Everybody know that. Sammy, Mario, all the young niggas that was singing. That was hard. For sure. I'm not an Ohioan. And you don't fuck with champagne, correct? Who was that? He's talking about all of these. He's talking about all of them.
Starting point is 01:49:33 There's a new artist. Nori has a new R&B artist called Champagne. I'm just so honored. I'm just so honored to be here. I can't pass out on that. I'm just smoking this weed. But you don't want one more shot? No, I ain't fucking with that.
Starting point is 01:49:47 Fucking up right now. You got it. How old are your kids? Shit, my daughter's eight, and my son is two, and then my youngest is six months. Having kids change anything in the way that you operate with music or anything? No, not to say it like that. But my kids, I think the balance is equal for me. When I'm around my kids, I'm able to be still myself and fun. But the same person who had songs
Starting point is 01:50:14 that might have a specific lyrics they were singing for or whatever, it's called parental advisory for a reason. So I don't shy away from who I still am. I haven't changed who I am. I think I'm just better at my patience. You know what I'm saying? And at the same time, I'm like, I think for them as well.
Starting point is 01:50:31 You know what I'm saying? I have to think for them. But it seems like there's an inspiration to, you said generational wealth. So in that sense, they did change you. It did, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:40 But as far as like the talent aspect, like my daughters or my kids, like I see my kids and they got the identical talents as me early. But I don't coerce it. Do you want them in this business? No.
Starting point is 01:50:52 See, I don't coerce it. Meaning I don't try to- I'm the same way. I don't try to be like, hey, you have to do this. Come in here in the studio. I won't force it because their art might be more beautiful than mine. You know what I'm saying? So you can come on this side. So I'll show you what it is if you want to,
Starting point is 01:51:10 but I'm not going to force you. Just because you're my kid, you probably can sing way better than me. I'm not going to exploit that. You know what I'm saying? If you might not, you might want to be a fucking veterinarian. Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, let's fix the pets.
Starting point is 01:51:23 Yeah, so. Let's fix the pets? In my Savannah area. I always instill just freedom in whatever I do in my life. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You just said it plenty. No, facts though. Let's fix the pets. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:34 But I never try to instill that they have to do what I do or follow my life path. You know what I'm saying? That's my chapter. So whatever they want to do, they have fun with it. Just be a good person while you're doing it. Right. And that's the only thing I can learn from just being a dad, trying to, like, instill something in my kids. I can't make them do anything.
Starting point is 01:51:54 I can only try to instill, like, purity or goodness in them. Like, hey, try to be nice, man. Why you got to be mean? You don't have to be mean. Let's just take a shot. You feel me? Let's just take a shot. You got it.
Starting point is 01:52:04 I ain't taking no more cool y'all guys i'm gonna like this if we got chris we got chris brown smoking blunts taking shots fixing pets Your turn. I'm scared. We in your house. Yeah. You can literally walk. I'm not passing out. We're not going to make you pass out. I'm going to pass out.
Starting point is 01:52:34 We got the album dropping next week. This looks like death. No, it does not look like death. You picked the drink, bro. He picked the drink. I mean, I see Monster. Hey, man. You sounding like you about to fall out.
Starting point is 01:52:47 You better relax. Damn, dog. No, you hear him. That's it, bro. One more shot, Chris, and that's it. And that's it. What's the next question? He's like, oh.
Starting point is 01:53:00 What question it is? Oh, yeah. We done with Quick Time with Slam? Yeah, no. We went to Low Team Respect. It's done. Time with Slyme? Yeah, no, we went to the Lord's Chamber of Spades, done. You know what, Chris? There is no more questions. You know what the question is?
Starting point is 01:53:09 Thank you for being who you are. Thank you for dominating this music world. Thank you for being the music that we listen to when we on the dance floor. We like that. Like that? Like we do that? Do on the dance floor, we like this. Like that. Do it one more time. We just like that. We just like that.
Starting point is 01:53:30 I'm on the dance floor. One more time. One more time. I got this. That shit too. Turn it on. Can you take your flowers right now
Starting point is 01:53:46 yeah I appreciate them I'm taking I accept them Chris Brown I appreciate you guys man no we appreciate you we appreciate you
Starting point is 01:53:53 and we appreciate what you dominated gave to this this game and continuing to give them to this game and
Starting point is 01:54:02 we respect love and appreciate you thank you well yeah in case you don't know everybody listening to i appreciate you you know i don't do interviews all the time but is Big chance. I fuck with that. We different. You feel me? Fuck the mother niggas. We different. Fuck the mother niggas because you down with our niggas. But, I want to honor you, bro. You could have did Oprah. You could have did anybody.
Starting point is 01:54:39 But you chose us. Yeah. And you know what we choosing? We choosing you more. So this album that you about to drop, we already downloaded. You got bootlegged. Facts. Now I got you.
Starting point is 01:54:55 I'm sending you out on early shit anyway. You got it. No, we might just bootleg your shit just so we can be honest. We might bootleg it in five weeks. We don't want Mike bootlegging. He's not even in the payroll. He's going to give me the world. Bootleg that shit and then buy something.
Starting point is 01:55:03 No, no. We buying it all. Yeah, you feel me? Because we're rich too. We don't buy bootlegs. He's not going to pay you. He's going to give you the world. He didn't buy something. No, no. We bought it all. Yeah, you feel me? Because we're rich, too.
Starting point is 01:55:09 We bought one of them. But, Chris Brown, we just want you to know face-to-face, man-to-man, we love you, brother. Thank you, man. I love you, too. Everything that you did to this game and everything you continue to do, we love it. And we're going to continue to honor it over here on this side. Facts. What we do.
Starting point is 01:55:34 So we just want you to know that, my brother. I asked for my brother's slime, man. Facts. And you know I made up the word slime, right? I don't know if you know that. What, you made that word up? How? This I don't know if you know that where you made that word up how this nigga don't even
Starting point is 01:55:47 he's thinking I'm playing nah he might be telling some shit but shit he telling the truth it's 2001 okay so I ain't
Starting point is 01:55:56 it wasn't gang it wasn't gang shit alright it's just how you speak your lingo yeah no my nigga my nigga
Starting point is 01:56:03 my brother down leaves he went to the store to get a turkey and cheese sandwich. And when he came back, I said, I want a piece. And he said, damn, you a slime nigga. That's it. And that's hard. That's kind of hard. And that's how all the y'all gang niggas.
Starting point is 01:56:20 They say slime, yeah. They saying slime for a turkey and cheese sandwich. For sure. Free the slime. Go figure. Fat. That's slime, yeah. It's insane as slime. Free the slime, man. For a turkey and cheese sandwich. For sure. Free the slime. Go figure. It's fat. That's hard though.
Starting point is 01:56:30 Yo, CB, thank you so much. Thank you for inviting us to your crib. Thank you. But dude, you got your Grammy award. Look at your Grammy award. Man, this shit flames. I'm going to hang it up. I ain't going to bullshit.
Starting point is 01:56:41 You going to hang it up for real? You see, I got the little basketball, little shit up there too. But I got a full bunch of stuff. Those roses don't die, by the way. They don't die. Yeah, they don't die. For sure. I'm going to spray them off. They go in the joints.
Starting point is 01:56:51 They go in the joints. Even if they do die, we're going to try to bring them back to life. But let's just be clear. Your first session, I was there for you, right? Yeah. Did you sign him? I think you signed him, right? No, I don't.
Starting point is 01:57:01 Oh, you discovered him? No, in my mind. Oh, you was there in Virginia. I just was there. Just let me ride with this. But, CB, we love you. My brother. Thank you, bro.
Starting point is 01:57:15 Thank you. This album is dropping. 24th, man. The 24th. How many songs is on this album? Only 23. I ain't want on this album? Only 23. I didn't want to kill everybody. Only 23.
Starting point is 01:57:27 Shit, I had 45 on the last one. So it's like, yo, everybody was like, don't give me all that long shit. So I'm like, how I feel now is like, it's going to be good. I think y'all, I differentiated the songs and I think everybody going to fuck with it. Okay, last question. Did you... I'm already worried. Yeah, be worried. You ain't bootleg your own
Starting point is 01:57:52 solo picture when you was in the mirror like this. What? What? How did that come out? What did you do though? I didn't get it. He had a solo picture. He had a picture. He was in a y'all. You talking about a naked picture?
Starting point is 01:58:08 The naked picture. Oh, shit. What the fuck? That's your last question, though? Ew. Come on, man. We got girl followers. We need to understand.
Starting point is 01:58:18 I don't even know. I'm going to roll my dog. We got girl followers. I'm going to be like, ew. I'm just saying ew. I'm not ew. Did you say ew got a girl following, by the way. I'm going to be like, ew. I'm just saying ew. I'm not ew. Did you say ew? Definitely ew.
Starting point is 01:58:27 Yeah. Definitely ew. I don't know what that means, but I'm with it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm out. Let's have it. Ew. But we good, man.
Starting point is 01:58:36 I love you. We good. Love you, my brother. You already know. I'm going with some marijuana. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:43 All right. Here's to the Charmin. Thank you, brother. Jeez, let's take a flick. Let's take a flick. Let's take a flick. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly, DJ EFN and NORE. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials. That's at Drink Champs across all platforms, at TheRealNoriega on IG. At Noriega on Twitter. Mine is at Who's Crazy on IG.
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