Drink Champs - Episode 328 w/ Issa Rae
Episode Date: August 26, 2022N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we talk with the one and only Issa Rae!Issa talks about her journey and her evolution in the entertainment industry. Issa also shares storie...s of working with Pharrell, receiving the key to her hometown of Inglewood, CA and more!Issa talks about her critically acclaimed hit TV show “Insecure”, its creation process, and much more!Issa also talks about her new show “Rap Shit” streaming now on HBO Max!Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise for ISSA RAE!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreaga Check out our Culture Cards NFT project by Joining The Culture Cards Discord Link below 👇 https://discord.gg/theculturecardsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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When I tell you I had so much fun doing research on this next guest and Googling this next guest because like many of her dumb fans.
What?
Like her dumb fans.
I'm saying I'm a dumb fan.
I thought it started from Insecure.
Then I went back and then I went back, and then I went back,
and I discovered I Am Other,
and then I discovered the internet,
and then I discovered, what is it?
Black Awkward Girl, Awkward Black Girl.
And I was like, wait a minute.
She's been monkey-footing,
stomping through this game for a long time.
Like the gum under the table, she's been there.
Yeah. There's no comment? game for a long time. Like the gum under the table, she's been there.
She's a curator.
Producer.
She got a... I watched two new episodes last night.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, I watched it.
Late night, because y'all was lying about the streaming.
Y'all was late on the streaming. Y'all was late on the streaming.
Y'all truly black people, because I was up since 12 o'clock in the afternoon talking
about y'all said streaming the 21st.
Y'all started streaming when y'all party started last night.
That was unfair to me as a fan.
Just sitting around, just keep going.
I was waiting too.
I was like, refresh HBO Max.
Just keep going to HBO Max.
Refresh HBO Max. So, I mean, it's so much dope to see the transition and her being hushed.
And also, not only that, she gave one of the greatest acceptance speeches of all time when she said, y'all help me, so what?
Ha.
I got to send my notes.
In case y'all don't know who the hell I'm talking about.
We're talking about the person who's dominating HBO.
Dominating.
Larry Derry, move over.
We got a strong black woman, black queen taking over.
And in case you don't know who we talking about,
we talking about the one, the only, the impeccable, Issa Rae!
You know, I'm gonna be honest with you. I love when we order the drink orders, right?
Whenever we get somebody here, we say,
um, you know, what do they want to drink?
Because we provide them the drink.
So when they said Prosecco...
Oh, yeah.
I was like...
I was a little disappointed.
I'm going to tell you why. No, don't.
I'm going to tell you why.
Because you do drink Prosecco.
With the recaps of Insecure, you drink Prosecco.
But then I started to think, I was like, for a rich person at this point, buying Prosecco is like hiring a fake Drake
it's like
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the real
Drake
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person not you in my pockets but I appreciate that intro yeah okay Champagne feels stuffy. I still mess with champagne super heavy. Okay. But I'm a Prosecco and vodka person.
Vodka.
Not you in my pockets, though.
Okay.
But I appreciate that intro.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, you a bad motherfucker.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And let's just kick straight to it.
Rap shit.
Yes.
What's the homegirl name from Love & Hip Hop?
You got a close one.
Chameleon.
A star.
A star.
Listen to me.
I can't lie to you.
When the selection came out, those two was it.
I said, East is high and Miami bugging out.
What?
In Miami.
She's in the streets.
Because I felt like you was like, you're in our city for sure.
In the pandemic, you was like, let me just take over Miami because I can do that.
I saw you in Little Haiti.
In Overtown.
Everywhere.
We wanted to feel real.
I was like, holy shit.
You are really a visionary.
She did so good.
I was like, by the way, I believed her
immediately. And I was just like, wow,
and I'm actually doing Love & Hip Hop
with her. I think she's on this season.
I haven't had no scenes with her or nothing.
But what I'm trying to say is, how the fuck
do you see somebody and say, this is a star,
this is an actor, I can actually this person she is she came in the audition and she was like i am mia and mia is me
and you know people i haven't really seen anybody claim it like that claim a character
and so you know she said it with the accent and i kind of was like okay let's see what she has and
she just she was her she didn't lie
like she she sometimes feels like she's not acting and she is acting for sure this isn't her life
but she's just so natural and you know they both are they're both incredible actresses
they're all first timers uh for the most part and they like her in particular like you know
she's really lived this particular journey of the show right
because how i looked at it like i'm like one girl's very like i don't want to say afrocentric
but you know kind of like on the like i'm not giving out my box type of thing and the other
one is like i'm throwing it everywhere like like like what is that like lauren hill mixed with
yeah you know we took influence from No Name,
from Tierra Whack, from, you know,
yeah, Missy is her hero on the show.
And she's like, you know,
she's influenced by the Lauryns of the past.
She's about this.
She's lyrical.
I got the Rhapsody vibes.
The Rhapsody vibes, exactly.
So, like, even with this show,
we took elements of, like,
so many female rappers right now to make, to tell this story.
I wanted it to feel like the now.
No, not only does it feel like the now.
You got, like, them going on live.
The social media.
Them doing FaceTime.
Through the lens of social media.
All platforms.
Like, that was so brilliant to me.
Thank you.
Because that's what they're doing right now.
I feel like you can't discover artists if you don't have social media.
If you're not, that's the best way to discover artists.
That's how you know their personalities.
I feel like I know these artists better than anything.
And I know their personalities more than I know their music.
And it makes me feel like an ownership over them.
Because I've seen the rise.
I've seen the ascension.
And I'm like, oh, I saw you when you were Cardi making videos before living hip-hop
I saw you when you were make the stallion, you know doing freestyles and and
Twerking at the gas station and I felt like in somewhat. Yes. I love that sound. Oh, I'm gonna just give you a glass of champagne
Anyway, I know
Trace We can't jerk us not... No, no, that's a tracer. That's a tracer. That's a soda, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We can't jerk her.
We can't jerk her.
It's not.
It's just club soda.
No vodka?
That's club soda.
Where's the vodka?
I get to pour it myself.
Where's the vodka?
He's going to give you the vodka.
No, where's the vodka I'm talking about?
Right there.
Oh, shit.
It's right there.
Okay.
Whichever flavor you like.
Can I just put it in there?
Yeah, yeah.
Whatever you want to do.
Okay, thank you.
I'm ready. So, thank you. I'm ready.
So, go ahead.
Was you finished?
I was just saying that social media is so important right now.
Like, in music, I can't imagine discovering an artist without social media.
But that style of filming, it felt like you were toying with it and insecure, were you?
I got you. And then you took it to another level.
We definitely took it to a different level. In In insecure we did some like social exactly that yeah we toyed with it um and then for this i was like i just want to have a i want to
approach the storytelling in a different way and i want to approach it in sometimes you know there
are people that we all know i don't know if y'all are active on socials. But there are some people that you don't see.
Thank you so much.
You don't see often.
And you keep up with them.
All you see is, like, their socials.
So you go, oh, they had a kid.
Cool.
Oh, they're out at the club.
Oh, okay, they're having dinner.
But you get these superficial ideas of what they're doing.
Like when Homegirl thought that a dude was messing with a chick.
Those parts of things.
You draw your own conclusions.
Exactly.
And so I wanted to just be our way into these characters via that.
And then as the episodes progress, like you're going to get to know them as they get to know each other again.
Right.
Because everything happens on social media.
Like a friend of mine the other day, we went to see each other and I had nothing to talk to him about.
Because everything that he did in life was on Instagram. He was like, I went to the zoo. Did you post that too? He was like, I went to see each other and um i had nothing to talk to him about because everything that he did in life was on it was on instagram he was like i went to the zoo he was like i went to the zoo
he's like i went to the zoo i was like i know you're fed of the giraffe he was like i went to
this other stuff like yeah you changed the baby pamper like i was like it'll be nothing in his
life wasn't on social media i like how you you took that glass i like that i like i like i like
how you play and drink chat let's make a noise for. Let's make some noise for that. Let's make some noise for that.
Now, I'm going to be honest with you.
Following Insecure, I was insecure at first because I knew this was a chick show.
I knew this was a chick show.
And then.
Insecure, you felt like it was a chick show?
You don't know that, sir?
No, no, no.
From Jeff?
No, in the beginning.
But I got so into it, it didn't feel like that after a while.
Yeah, until Lawrence.
Lawrence.
Until you cheated on Lawrence.
And then everyone was.
She cheated on him.
I know.
She cheated.
I like that it's Issa Rae, but it's not Issa Rae, but it's Issa Rae, but it's not Issa Rae.
Yeah.
Y'all both fouled each other out in that show.
No.
Thank you.
A sensible man.
Yeah, yeah.
No, no, no.
I'm sorry.
Wait a minute.
No, that's true.
If you watch the show, both did each other dirty. No, no. No. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. I'm sorry. Wait a minute. No, that's true. If you watch the show, both did each other dirty.
No, no.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Look, what, Lars didn't give you a gift or something?
Hmm?
He didn't give you a gift or something?
No, he was deadbeat at first to her.
Yeah, he didn't.
He just was hurting.
Yeah, he was depressed.
I think both of them were at fault, and both of them did some immature things.
Right.
But, yeah yeah a lot of
men took the day of cheating extremely personally but it's so many stories you I don't go on regular Twitter.
I don't go on regular Twitter.
I log into black Twitter.
I go in.
I go on regular Twitter.
And then black Twitter.
And I go there.
And boy, was we having a morning day that day.
We was like, man, this is some bullshit.
This is some bullshit.
Like, dude.
Come on, man.
Lawrence is a good guy.
I love it.
I love the intuition.
I love that so many men saw themselves in him.
And they felt so betrayed.
Like, how? Like, the nerve of this girl cheating on him.
A good man.
And he is, but he had his issues.
Really?
I just ain't see it.
Both were at fault, man.
Both.
So he was a perfect man to you?
Like from jump?
You want me to?
Have you ever in your life cheated before?
Yeah, but that ain't got nothing to do with Lawrence.
What Lawrence got to do with that?
No, no, don't deflect.
Lawrence was there for you, girl.
He just was going through a little financial shit.
He wasn't there.
He was like a shell of himself, you know?
He wasn't his best self.
They both weren't their best selves at the time.
And that was the point of the show,
the growth of the characters.
But do you see how attached people is to the show, though?
They can't differentiate.
Back in the days, I had a song called What What,
and I used to hate people coming up to me,
What, what, what, what, what the fuck is you thinking?
It's 8 o'clock in the morning, I'm eating a bagel.
What, what, what?
I imagine they come up to you like,
No!
And thinking you're this real character.
Yeah, my real character.
For a minute, like, dudes were really, like, the insults got crazy.
And my co-star, I remember, I'll never forget, I woke up one morning and, like, you know, logged in to Twitter.
You said Molly, your co-star?
Yeah, my co-star, Yvonne.
She, before I knew it, I woke up one morning, and my phone, like, I went on my mentions,
and it was just, cheater, cheating-ass bitch, cheater, cheating, cheating, cheating hoe,
fucking cheater.
And I was like, what happened?
But that's a good thing.
But my co-star went on The Breakfast Club.
Molly.
I keep calling her Molly.
I'm sorry.
Molly.
And at the very end of the interview, she was like, well, y'all, if y'all think Issa
a cheater, like hit her up, tell her.
And so she said, and people did.
And I was like, one, fuck her.
Two, this is kind of amazing.
This is a game.
They're invested in the show.
They believe it.
But I feel like people thought that she was like a real person telling me, telling everybody
about her homegirl who cheated.
And so they got it.
I was like, why y'all going in on me so hard?
This is not real.
I didn't do this.
How much of you was in that character, though?
A lot.
Yeah, I mean, a lot.
But things, you know, I had learned so much more about myself
and was more confident in myself by the time that show came out.
Right.
But, like, there were so many parts of me that were in that character.
Is there ever a time where, like,
you write in a show,
because I think I was hearing you say this,
where you almost watch this season in real time.
Like, you dropped a couple of episodes.
You could see the reaction to the people.
Does that affect your writing?
Oh, no, because by that time,
people thought that.
Yo, the craziest thing that pissed me off was we, in season three, Lawrence wasn't in half of it, right?
And we had planned to have him pop up in the middle of the season.
It felt like he was out of the show.
It felt like he was out of the show, and it worked out because he went on a show, a radio show.
Oh, that's when Charlemagne kept spreading rumors that y'all killed him.
That part, yes.
I believed Charlamagne, by the way.
Because he's a troll for that.
And he wanted Angie Martinez, and Jay said, yeah, I haven't filmed.
I don't know what they're doing.
So that fueled the rumors that, like, we weren't bringing him back.
And people thought I was hating.
All these rumors happened.
And literally, he was about to shoot in a couple of weeks with us.
So people thought that he was out the show
and so then when he did pop up in the middle of season
three, people were like,
oh, they saw all the complaints and they
changed it and they put him back in the show and I was like,
no, we shoot, we write these.
Yeah, people don't understand that. We get that with
blue shirts. It's crazy.
And people think you're late. So no, I don't get to like,
and I wouldn't want to write to audience feedback.
But when I was doing Opera Black Girl, my web series, like, that helped.
You know, audience feedback.
Because you would read the comments.
Because they would be like, like, I take constructive criticism.
So they'd be like, your lighting's bad.
Like, I really want to get in the show, but the lighting.
And I'd be like, can I get some help on lighting?
Or, you know, and then they would say certain constructive things that would just just make me pay more attention but um for a show that's impossible to do what made you start um
going online what made you just man i was trying to break in by uh doing scripts you know
traditionally so you always like the way to break into holly Hollywood before as a writer was to write a spec script, which means like you write a show.
Like if you like The Office, you'd write a sample script of The Office and then you try to find an agent and get with that.
But that's hard.
Exactly that.
A demo.
And that was hard.
You know, you had to have connections to even get somebody to look at it and when i had ideas for movies and i had these
opportunities and i'd have these meetings and like the general consensus was like the work i had
black characters and everything that i did in the the consensus at the time was there's no audience
for this or you have to make it more multicultural which means you know make it white and it just got
frustrating and at the same time like i, I was always on the Internet.
I've been on the Internet since I was like 11.
And you still go on the Internet.
I'm still on the Internet.
You still have the YouTube channel that you started.
We still do all of that.
But I was, like, just obsessed with talking to strangers online when I was younger.
And then it just was a natural to build a community.
And so, like, when Facebook came out, Twitter, all that,
I was just constantly building community
and just making content online to make myself laugh, to make my friends laugh.
And then I just took it seriously.
Right.
Wow.
Wait, hold on.
How much of hip hop was an influence in everything you've done?
Because it felt insecure.
It was a big part of it.
Incredibly.
Like I love, I mean, I love obviously like rap music i love r&b i just love our music
like just seeing you the shirts you would wear on insecure like things like there's like little
detail like man there's a hip-hop head right here yeah i mean it's it's central to the music like
hip-hop is storytelling and so like are you picking the music i'm picking a lot because the
music that on insecure and even now seeing the new series, it's incredible.
Shout out to...
You should be in A&R on a record label.
Thank you.
We have one.
We do have one.
But I have to shout out our music supervisor on Insecure, Keir.
I was very specific in terms of what I wanted the show to sound like.
And rap shit, too.
He was in rap shit as well.
Rap shit we do on the radio side.
But Keir on Insec insecure was just great about helping
me find new artists to like put in the show and you know i had my own list but he was so great
about discovery too so i discovered so many other people to put on because of him but heavily curate
the the shows you know who's one of the most underrated characters in Insecure?
Who?
I feel like I know
who you're about to say.
The blood homie.
Doug Yoder.
The blood homie.
He only spoke in bees.
I just have to be like,
like, what is he saying?
And then I would have to
replace him.
From the apartment complex?
Yeah.
He was like,
I'm getting breakfast.
Yo.
I'm bound.
He's like,
everything is a bee.
It was like,
it was crazy
because there's actually really real people
like that. Yes, there is.
Black culture. That's my friend from high school,
Tristan.
Some people don't recognize, like, in my
web series, Awkward Black Girl, he played
like the baby voice whisperer dude
and we used to be in plays together
in high school and he would just steal the show
and so then, you know, Thug Yoda is
his own character. He's always everybody's favorite character in whatever he plays. I didn't the show. And so then, you know, Thug Yoda is his own character.
He's always everybody's favorite character
in whatever he plays.
Well, I didn't know that.
He's mad talented.
Basically, he can play anything.
He's the most talented, one of the most talented actors
that I know.
So when HBO first called,
what was that like?
Because did you film a pilot for Insecure?
No.
So yeah, so how does,
and HBO, let's just be clear,
Netflix is on the rise at the time,
but HBO is still the biggest company in the world at this time.
This had to be like an honor,
them calling,
what did they say?
They want to work with you?
And what is that conversation like? conversation yeah it was basically like we want to take a meeting with you and at the time I had two meetings with him one two meetings with them
one was with the now president of HBO and he was an exec at the time and it was a it's what they
call a general meeting where they're just like, oh, the industry is talking about you.
So let's just see what you're working on.
And I was nervous in that meeting.
I didn't really understand what a general was, but it was just getting to know them and getting to know him.
And then I went on my way and then I got an opportunity to work with Shonda Rhimes at ABC to shoot a pilot or to write a pilot.
And then that ultimately didn't go.
And I was devastated.
You know, Shonda Rhimes is a big deal to black writers,
to people in general, and I felt like I failed,
and I missed my one chance to, like, make a show.
And then after that, like, literally after I got to know that it wasn't going to go through, I got, you know,
a call from my managers at HBO, reached out,
and they were like, you know, what do you have?
Do you have anything for us?
And that's when I was like, I'll get something ready for you guys.
Based on what they've seen on YouTube.
Based on what they saw on YouTube.
And at that time, I think, no, I didn't have a book out.
Wait, wait, wait.
You telling me, when they called, you didn't even have Insecure?
No.
No, I didn't have anything.
No, I didn't have anything.
And even what I ended up pitching has evolved so much since then.
So it wasn't insecure when you first pitched?
It was called non-profit when I first pitched.
Non-profit with a pitch.
Didn't she work at a non-profit?
She did.
She did.
And it was going to be more centered in that world.
Okay.
And then Molly was more of a side character who I would go to visit from time to time and learn about.
But it wasn't as central. then you know during the development process
it became insecure but I just I had I whipped up something for for that
meeting and that's what they bought in the room and then they just changed over
time were you already successful on YouTube because you hear of YouTube
content creators are killing it no cuz, because that's what's crazy.
People call me a YouTube star, but when I think about YouTube stars, they have millions of views.
They're making six figures just off their content.
And, you know, we had accumulation of a million views, but I was not a YouTuber.
I wasn't a blogger.
I started on the Internet, but it wasn't paying my bills by any means.
But I had a loyal fan base though an extremely loyal
Fan base of viewers who are supportive who would like give money to our Kickstarter's to patreon and all that but
But that has to be something positive to say that HBO would take the meeting with you because it wasn't just based off of
Like the numbers not about yeah
It was based off the content you were creating and that's kind of how HBO rocks because it's not like they have.
That's kind of a flop.
Listen, I'm not mad at it.
Because now every company is like, what's your numbers?
That's all I care about.
Yeah.
You can be farting on camera.
You got the views?
And then you have a deal.
Come on.
You have a deal.
Yeah, I think HBO operates like that in general because even some of their most prestigious shows, they're not like 50 million.
Nobody has 50 million views.
They're hella views.
But they like take their time.
Normally, you remember the days with networks.
If you had a million viewers, two million viewers, you'd get canceled.
And they're really patient with their audiences.
And, you know, I think that that's helpful.
Because would you label like the first season as insecure?
Was it a success or was it a success to you?
Was it a success to them?
Like how did y'all move forward? It was a success to all of us all the way around yeah and it wasn't like a ratings
juggernaut or a rating success but in terms of the response the critical response that's what
they care about the cultural success like when that season finale hit that was life-changing
to me because i was just like this is this is crazy I'm logging online
and I'm seeing people
talking about these characters
and I'm not even like
searching for the show
I didn't log on to Black Twitter
I was just like
I was like
God damn girl
you fucked up
I was like
oh shit
the people are just
talking about the show
and I'm not promoting
or anything
and they're arguing
they're arguing.
They're so passionate.
And this is crazy.
This is what you hope for, people to get invested in your characters like this.
That's how I knew the show was a hit,
when I seen people arguing with it as if it was real life.
Like, I was looking, I was like, wait a minute,
do they really know that this is a show?
Like, they were going, hey, I'm talking about power rants. You got mad.
Yeah, yeah.
Couples would tell me,
I fought with my girl
for weeks after that
or I broke up over this.
I was like,
this is crazy,
but keep it coming.
That's amazing.
Keep more.
Tell me more.
I know I said it earlier,
but do you feel like
because Larry David made a lot of money. I said it earlier but um do you feel like I don't
I don't
because Larry David
made a lot of money
yes he did
with HBO
do you feel like
you're
the black girl
version of
Larry David
I wish
cause Larry David
had Seinfeld
so he had
hella money
off of Seinfeld
listen
listen
Insecure could
turn into Seinfeld
that's different money
because they got syndication but how did it become different money how did Seinfeld. That's different money. Yeah. Because they got syndication.
But how did it become different money?
How did Seinfeld become that revered is what I want to know.
You don't like Seinfeld?
No, I do, but I just...
It's like, there's a lot of great shows.
Yeah, but I mean, like, those network shows that were a hit are different.
Seinfeld was truly a show about nothing.
It was a show about nothing.
And they, like, changed the way that, like, sitcoms work.
Like, everybody...
He's not invited. What the fuck? the way that like sitcoms work like everybody oh my god I'm sorry we got
drunk with a little sorry that's your older friends you can't be right you Did he only come because of Patti LaPaglia? No, no. He was drinking his beer. He was taking her.
He was on his own.
Oh, my God.
Yes, but you know what's the crazy thing?
No, but finish the train of thought about it. Well, I mean, like, it's just network TV.
They could, like, then they could sell it to, like, a TBS and syndication money and all that.
We don't have that anymore.
That's a whole other thing.
So like the money is different there.
But stuff might change.
So we'll see.
You get Netflix money too.
I've seen Lovebirds too.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah.
That was a funny joint.
Yeah, I'm getting a little change.
A little.
Don't be modest.
No, we don't brag for you, goddammit.
We know what the money is.
We don't get that
change up.
Come on, baby.
Because I remember
when they said
HBO 40 million,
it was like,
no, it's not 40.
Go a little bit up north.
And then Charlamagne
started spreading to 300.
I'm just keeping
his rumor going.
It's not that.
It's not 300.
I'm just keeping
his rumor going.
It's not 40.
It's not 300. I'll say that. rumor going. It's not 40. It's not 300.
I'll say that.
Whatever it is, we are fucking proud of you.
Thank you.
And keep fucking going.
Thank you.
And keep fucking going.
Thank you so much.
Let me ask you.
You really are, although you take place in social media, you indulge.
You're not fooled by that shit. Like, shit doesn't impress you. and social media, you're on dogs,
you're not fooled by that shit. Like shit doesn't impress you.
Like you're not, like for instance,
like everyone heard you got married.
Oh yeah.
You kind of kept that shit on the low.
Like I know you had a lust for your shit.
You know, I know you wanted to post like dogs flying out.
From, you know what I'm saying?
Like dogs flying out from, you know what I mean?
Like, where are those flying out from? From the preacher's head, you know what I'm saying? Like, doves flying out from, you know what I mean? Like, where? Where are the doves flying out from?
From the preacher's hands.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I mean?
Like, David Blaine?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, we know.
But you did it.
That's like,
that's crazy.
And your man has to be secure.
I see what you did there.
Yes, I would say that.
I agree with you.
Right.
He would have to be very secure.
He's very, wherever he at.
I'll spread the word.
I'm famous as well.
At one point.
He don't watch.
At one point, my wife wasn't posing me.
My wife was right there.
At one point, I was like, wait a minute.
You know, I'm in a RE.
Like, you better start showing me off.
So, I'm just saying, I even got like that.
And I'm a person that's famous.
So, was that a, that was a dedicated, listen, let's go.
I see you.
I like that.
What's your sign?
Gemini, y'all kind of crazy.
Yeah, they're kind of crazy.
Relax, relax.
Gemini gang.
Oh, my bad, y'all crazy.
Gemini's, have you, like, cut somebody off really quickly in your life?
Like, oh, yeah, yeah.
It's done, it's done.
My God, y'all are like, whoo.
It's crazy.
Now, we'll try to make it work, but once it's done,
y'all are cold, but, you know, respect.
No, but that got to be a strong man.
He's a very strong man, yes.
I respect him.
I salute him.
He will appreciate that.
And it was in Paris, right?
He was in Paris by himself.
No, the wedding was in Paris.
It was in Cannes.
Cannes, France.
I was disrespectful.
That's not Paris.
Well, I mean France.
No, no, no.
Paris to us is the whole country.
No, Cannes is Paris,
big brother.
Paris is Prosecco. He's so culture Paris, big brother. Paris is Prosecco.
You so cultured.
Stop!
Hey, not Prosecco.
And Cars is Ace of Spades.
I killed that.
I killed that.
Look at what we did to him.
I killed that.
I killed that.
I hope he wasn't screened in a movie and then got married.
No, I was not.
No, not at all.
No, it was during COVID and all that.
That was fucked up.
Because someone asked me to do something,
and I did that.
I was like, you know what?
Maybe I'll book a show out there.
I'll definitely do that.
All the time.
Definitely.
All the time.
There's no shame.
Yes, yes.
So another thing that I was calling around
about how much you do for people
that you don't bring up.
So many people was like, yo, you have no idea how much Issa does.
That comes and go look out for people.
Someone to ask her for a favor.
She would remember it and come back and go get these people and do it.
It's got to be true.
Look at your face.
Your shit just changed.
Because it makes me uncomfortable.
Like, you know, because it's just, yeah.
What, getting your flowers make you uncomfortable?
Not getting my flowers.
I appreciate all that.
But it's like, you know, I think what isn't considered is those people show up and do the work. Like, you can't give someone a chance or you can't give a recommendation if those people don't deliver.
Right.
So, yeah, I appreciate that, like, credit and stuff like that.
But, yeah. Yeah, I mean, and it was several people. delivered right so yeah i appreciate that like credit and stuff like that but yeah yeah i mean
and it was this this was several people this wasn't just one person like i don't want to
reveal my name because i want to still get information from them so um yeah i thought
that that was amazing because you know um i could feel your energy i I can feel, like, who you are. What's that sign? I'm a Virgo. Oh, I love Virgos.
That's good?
Capricorns and Virgos.
We connect.
What you got?
I was like, oh, damn.
What?
Damn.
Damn.
That's Gemini.
We're good, though.
No, but Gemini, we got good.
What are you?
I'm a Capricorn.
Okay.
I don't know nothing about Capricorn.
What month is that?
That's January and December.
December and January.
Okay.
Late.
Okay, yeah. Oh, you're December and January. Okay. Late. Okay, yeah.
Oh, you're a perfectionist.
Yeah, no.
At least he's honest, though.
I'm kidding.
But you're meticulous.
Like, that's why you're you.
Yeah, I'm a little judgmental.
No, he's very specific.
Specific, that's it.
He's very specific.
Specific.
Doesn't make sense sometimes, but he's very specific.
Right.
Sorry, I keep interrupting
No no no
I deserve it
I deserve it
So baby
Do you want some champagne
Cause I
Okay alright cool
And we gotta give
We gotta flowers
We gotta give you flowers
Thank you
Because our show is about
Giving people flowers
I see
And let me just tell you something
What you doing is remarkable
What you doing
Is
Dope for any
Any race Any nationality Any Color creed But for it to be doing is remarkable. What you're doing is dope for any race, any
nationality, any color
creed, but for it to be
your story and where it came from. Because me and you from the
same hood of Senegal. I don't know if you know that.
What? I ain't from Senegal at all. Oh my God.
He's 23.
Oh, you didn't talk about me in Senegal?
I did. But let's get your flowers
because you motherfuckers in Senegal.
You're so weird. Real gold plated get your flowers, because you want to look at the derby. Ah! I got one!
Yes!
Real gold plated flowers.
Yes, yes.
This is fire.
Thank y'all so much.
They will not die.
I know.
I love it.
This is incredible.
And everything on the table, you can take.
You can take can of egg.
I'm definitely taking that.
Yes, we got can of egg.
We got smoked eggs.
We got juicy juices for you.
That's the tea.
But I can't do edible.
Look, look.
You see the Mike Tyson bites?
Yeah. Those are edible edible bites.
Those are ears.
Mike Tyson ears.
Y'all see the
Trivante Rose one?
Y'all see the Trivante Rose Mike Tyson Hulu series?
That shit looks fire.
It's a docu-series or it's a scripted?
It's a scripted series with Trivante Rose
who was in Moonlight. He's playing
Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson's never been finer.
Oh, wow.
But it's great.
In advance.
Sorry, guys.
Y'all don't care.
Let me ask you, going back to Rap Shit real quick.
Why did you only drop two episodes?
So with Rap Shit, you said the thing about the time.
So I love, one of the things i loved about insecure and what i love about uh just even linear weekly shows in general
is like everybody to go on sunday you look forward to sunday and you have something to talk about and
it's the communal experience and that's what i miss about tv is just you know with streaming
they just drop shit at midnight and everybody watches it at different times and it feels like
there's no like so much of the exciting part
about pop culture is being able to talk about it with your friends,
talk about it with your coworkers and all that.
And so with Rap Shit, I wanted to drop,
we wanted to drop the first two episodes
because I think you get more of a complete picture.
But at a specific time, at 6 p.m. Pacific, 9 p.m. Eastern,
and that way, every week, you're going gonna have something to at least look forward to and people who want to watch it at that time can watch it at
the same time and talk about it but it's two at a time no it's one at a time so just the first two
and then it's weekly okay i ain't gonna lie um i love binge watching but when i'm into the show
i kind of want to wait till that sunday get my popcorn, get my crab legs, you know, be prepared and watch the show before that.
Because there's always like a lame show before it.
I don't know why.
And whenever there's a dope show, it's always like a show about pottery and shit.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
About pottery?
But then you're getting involved with that because you're like, I watched it last week.
You know what I'm saying?
You got pottery set up, man.
Oh, they're doing tulips this time.
You're like, all right, cool. And then they doing tulips this time. All right, cool.
And then it goes.
So I'm into that.
I'm into that.
I always felt like,
because I think probably
television at one point
gave up on linear
and went straight to internet.
Streaming and binging.
It was just like,
yo, streaming, yeah.
Yeah, and I hate that
because it's,
well, I love binging stuff too,
but I want to talk about it.
Do you have the power over that
to say what you want?
I asked for it.
I asked. it I asked
they've never
HBO's never done this
before with their
streaming shows
sorry is it strictly
HBO Max
HBO Max
so that's why
it's not airing
on regular TV
it's only on the app
so that was the only
opportunity we got
and shout out to HBO Max
they were like
okay we'll
we'll give it a shot
and so we're in it
but like I love
like with binging shows
it pisses me off
because I want to talk about it with my friends, and they're not watching it yet.
Right.
I get mad.
I got friends that get pissed off.
I'm like, yo, oh, you're not on?
We can't talk about it now.
Exactly.
We can't talk about it.
And then when they watch it, I'm like, I'm on to the next one.
I don't care what you have to say anymore.
So it's like to be able to provide that experience, hopefully.
Yeah, we'll see what happens.
Is season one done?
Like filmed and done
yeah everything's done
everything's done
so all of it's gonna
cause I feel like
y'all would film
at Rolling Loud right now
for it
that's
that's interesting
we might have
I mean like you know
that would have been
a potential season two
it would seem the trajectory
would take us
to Rolling Loud in Miami
not thinking enough
but we haven't gotten our
you know
official season two yet
so we have to
we have to write the season two.
So if we write season two and we get the green light, we'll be shooting next year.
We're disposable.
If you need us, like, we're right here.
I'm going to shoot my spot.
I'm going to shoot my spot.
I don't know.
Yeah, I was going to shoot my shot.
Come on, Drink Champs.
You don't do that, you know.
It's on camera that they're going to be on it.
Y'all are committed to Drink Champs.
Thank you so much.
I can't hear it.
You're not going to hear it.
Holy shit. Don't play hear it. Holy shit.
Don't play with us.
Holy shit.
Don't ignore my cause when I say it.
We did a Christmas movie with Nick Cannon.
Oh, yeah, we definitely did.
We don't know where that movie went.
No, it's not.
It's not.
It was a, was it a, was he a Dracula in that movie?
Hey, man, we support our culture, man.
It ain't.
It was fun.
It was fun. We had fun with Nick Cannon. We got Drink Champs on the show was fun. It was super fun.
We got Drink Champs on the show.
He was the character on Drink Champs.
Got it.
Oh, so is that what that still,
didn't y'all just post something with it
where he came on again?
Yeah, he came on as Murder Death Kill.
And then he came on as Nick.
He came as Murder Death Kill.
Yeah.
Yo, you know what's so funny about that?
I swear to God, I don't know if I told you. P puff daddy since he calls me and sends me a clip of this shit he calls me and
sends me a clip he's like yo who is this guy and how the fuck did he make it to the show
is this murder death kill character and we even fooled buff and he was like he really caught me
with an attitude he was like yo bro I thought. I thought we got certain people that we'd be.
Who is this guy?
He thought we have a criteria for him.
He said, I called everybody from Harlem.
No one knows him.
I was like, Puff, you're reading too much into this shit.
But it was Nick Cannon in character.
That's the sign of a good movie.
He's real on his acting shit.
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So, your yacht parties.
Oh, yes.
Famous.
You gonna come to one?
Stop.
Except if we're all white.
That should be scaring me out.
No, I don't like it.
I can't do all white.
Whenever we're all white, I'll be feeling like a Santeria shit going on, voodoo, and
somebody going to come with a duck and cut up their neck and pour blood everywhere.
He took it to a whole other level.
I've been watching Centuria documentaries lately
I've been scaring the shit out of them
I don't know, big them up
We respect them
So I've been hearing about these yacht parties
What happens in these yacht parties?
It's just fun
It's not crazy at all
It's just fun, it's just like
A chance to let loose
I tweeted one day I, like, I was like, I want to be.
Yeah, I just want to do y'all shit with my friends, basically.
And then I was like, I can.
Like, hook rat shit with your friends, but y'all shit.
Exactly.
That's the upgraded version.
Exactly.
And then I realized, like, oh, I can do this.
And then threw a party one year, and then it just became, like, a little tradition for me.
And we just did one in Miami around like ABFF.
And it was just fun.
It's just an opportunity to like be yourself.
It's not a stuffy Hollywood party.
It's just have a good time, drink, dance, and act up.
Wow.
And this is after Drake came to your party and left?
And hollered at you?
Oh, no, you came late.
No, that was like going to Los. Did he holler at you? Oh, no, you came late. No, that was like going to love.
Did he holler at you?
No, no.
He just passed by.
He said magical words and said,
I'm waiting for you all night.
Oh, wow, this is the research shot?
Yeah, I did my research, yeah.
I was on you.
No, but that was it.
There was no holleration.
I was in the presence of friends.
Leaving an HBO party,
going to a Netflix party.
Let's make for you.
Make some noise for you.
Get that money, God damn it.
Get that money, God damn it.
I'm sorry.
I got to go to my other check.
What determines the claps?
That's what I want to know.
There's no determination.
You can start your own clap.
This is a clap game.
You can start your own clap game.
You can make a noise with your check.
Make a noise with that check.
So what is your relationship to I Am Other?
Oh, man.
Shout out to Pharrell.
Shout out to Pharrell.
Who also had a great interview here.
He's, um...
Thank you.
He, like, discovered the Awkward Black Girl, him and his.
So, it wasn't Pharrell you went beyond?
No, no.
The second season.
He watched the first season of Awkward Black Girl and just gave it so much love and was like, I'm doing a venture.
It was a top secret venture at the time.
And he was like, yo, if I do this, I would love to bring this on.
And I was like, that's amazing because we don't have any money to do a second season.
So if you can make that happen. And so he took Awkward Black Girl under his I Am Mother umbrella
and we just got our entire second season funded.
And, you know, he was just super,
he was promoting the shit out of it.
And it just changed.
And that's when, you know,
like other bigger outlets got wind of it.
And it just gave us press on a different platform.
And so shout out to him.
He's just, he's always ahead
of the curve and everything that he does and um so it felt like an honor that he had seen us and
he helped yes i helped him he helped you he's trying to say it's because of him
did he confirm that his first real hit is super thug with me that's Did he confirm that you... His first real hit is Superthug.
Okay, that's fire.
I mean, you can Google that yourself.
That's fire.
You know what I mean?
That's fire.
I mean, I don't want to brag about it.
You know what I'm saying?
But who's counting?
You know what I mean?
Who's paying attention?
Where did it come from?
Where did it come from?
What, Superthug?
Yeah, yeah.
Did you just hear the beat
or did you meet him first?
No, I met him.
This was the time
of baggy clothes.
This is when I knew, like, he was
the chosen one, though, because we had on
4X and he had on
extra medium. Yeah.
And it was like... And you were like, that's the future?
It was mad tight.
And I was like, he's different because I see his veins
coming out, like, you know what I'm saying?
Small veins? Small taste.
Small taste.
He had a little tilt going on.
But he said to me, he said to me, if you listen to me, we'll go number one.
Wow.
So I flew to Miami.
And he told me not to listen to the third beat.
So when I listened to the third beat, it came on. He said listen to it in Miami.
He said listen to it in Miami.
Was it like on a CD or a flash drive?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was on a CD.
A mad old school CD. No, like on a CD or a flash drive? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was on a CD. A mad old school CD.
No, that was a CD at that time.
I remember the only difference was he came on and he was like super thug.
He's like, you met Manuel Noriega?
He's in the Philippines.
And that was the first time I ever seen someone do a beat that was for me.
And then under it, it was going, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I said, yo, can I change that to what, what, what?
It's crazy.
It's Patti LaBelle.
I was just singing that earlier.
That was crazy.
Patti LaBelle sang it.
Patti LaBelle just sung Superdug to me.
It was crazy.
It was mind-blowing.
I'm definitely using that for something.
I don't know.
That's in your sample.
Yeah, but, but, and I came back the next day, and I laid it. And I counted the bars.
What, what, what, what?
That's how I counted bars. word and he's like and you're gonna laugh all the way to the bed I was like
holy shit I was like fuck it I believe the man
rest is history yeah so literally that was his first hit thing I believe he had
other records but his first hit his first time the record his first time
Teddy Riley appeared on the record he, like, he's singing on that record. Okay, got it. Because he did, like, Rump Shaker and all that before.
He was Ghost Reducer.
Ghost Reducer was your first official, like, action.
Okay, let's make some noise for Matt.
Yeah!
But you also got the key to Inglewood.
Is it heavy?
Is it heavy?
No, it's, like, plastic.
I'll be asking you.
He thought it was a literal key.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Time out, time out.
Is this a book?
Is that a key?
I'm disappointed.
It's a plastic key.
It's plastic.
It's like meant for, it's decorative.
Oh, it's decorative.
Okay.
So it's like you can, it's a conversation starter.
So like that up there, like if I had that.
It's in my office right now.
We can give the key to drink champs to people when they come no don't be
giving people keys but I am I was really honored you know cuz I'm not people
think I'm from Inglewood but I just repping all of my grandparents are from
there I'm from yeah where they built the freeway
afterwards. They kicked them out. Oh, where they kicked
everybody out. Yeah. Damn. They were there during the riots.
Damn, that's history. Yeah.
So you went from Senegal
to Maryland. She wasn't in Senegal,
bro. I did, I did. You lived in Senegal?
I was born in LA.
I lived there for a minute.
If you lived in Maryland, I read something.
After Senegal. So you spent like Two years in Senegal
I just said that
I ain't gonna take
What I just said
And flip it on me
Like I just said that
Y'all got it
Y'all got it
It was
Born in LA
Senegal
Five years in Maryland
Then back to LA
Maryland
White schools
Maryland white schools
Yeah
Yes
White schools
White neighborhood
White everything
I've never experienced
How was that?
It was, you know, I was, it was what, first through fifth grade.
So it was just like, oh, okay.
I just became aware that I'm a black person.
You know, being in Africa, everybody's black.
Right.
And then going to Maryland, it was just like, oh, my hair is different than everybody.
They're pointing it out.
But I wasn't like, I'm oppressed. It was just like, I'm a child. different than everybody. They're pointing it out. But I wasn't like, I'm oppressed.
It was just like, I'm a child.
How old were you when you went to Senegal?
When I went to Senegal, I was probably like four, five, six.
I'm not sure.
Did it register that you're in a different country?
Yes, without a doubt.
This is a black country.
Now you come back to America.
And did it feel different?
It definitely felt different.
But I don't think
I was smart enough or conscious enough to understand what that difference meant until
I was like, you know, I was, it was understood that I was different. You know, I was different
when you came to Maryland. Yeah. When I came to Maryland, but I was just, you know, I adapted
really quickly to everything and it coming back to L.A.
That was a culture shock.
Because when you go into middle school, that's when everybody's aware of each other.
That's when everybody stops being nice.
That's when we point out the differences.
And so that was really, really clear to me.
What was the difference they were pointing out about you, though?
That I was just lame.
Were you Senegal?
Were you Maryland?
What were the attributes that you Senegal? Were you Maryland? What did they think?
What were the things, the attributes that you felt that were being pointed out?
I spoke like a white girl, you know, and I was just not aware.
Not from Senegal.
This is after your first year in Maryland.
You adapted to Maryland, right?
Yeah, but by the time I came back to L.A., I was just, you know, I wasn't conscious of it.
Like, I was a big R&B head, but I wasn't a big hip-hop head at the time.
And so one of the things was, like, Tupac had died, like, my first year back in L.A.
In 96.
I was in sixth grade.
And that was within, like, the first couple weeks of school because it happened in September, right?
Yeah.
His death.
I remember.
That's my birthday, yeah.
And so, like, I just didn't know who he was my brothers were super hip hop you didn't know who park was i didn't know who park was at the time so everybody's mourning and you
and i'm don't and not only do i not know who he is i pronounce his name wrong i try to get in
conversations like tupac died oh no let's talk about it you know and so they just
did not fuck with me after that did you have white friends named britney or ashley i have black
friends named ashley i didn't have i didn't have that's the thing i didn't really have in maryland
because those are like the white white friends right oh in maryland um i had a friend named lisa
okay uh but i have friends from like all different races i had a japanese friend named Lisa. OK. But I have friends from all different races.
I had a Japanese friend named Erica.
You take me back.
I had a Peruvian friend named Jessica.
Hey, we got the Peruvian friends.
Where's our Peruvian friends?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
We got Peruvian cousins.
We got this cool with the Peruvian cousins.
Tell us about your Cuban friends.
I didn't have any Cuban friends.
I'm sorry.
I didn't have any Cuban friends.
I don't know the Cuban. I didn't have any Puerto Rican friends. Jesus, no. I didn't like your Cuban friends. I'm sorry. I didn't have any Cuban friends. I don't know the Cuban.
I didn't have any Puerto Rican friends. Jesus, no.
I didn't have any Cuban friends.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Dominican?
In Maryland?
No, in Potomac.
Dominican friends.
Yeah.
Colombians?
Colombians?
No.
Damn, I'm disappointed.
You got Haitian friends.
No, damn.
I have Haitian friends now.
I didn't have Haitian friends back then.
No.
Oh, come on.
Yeah. Zayn, where are your Haitian friends now. I didn't have Haitian friends back then. No. Oh, come on.
Zayn, where are your Haitian friends in Maryland?
Let him go to sleep.
But no, then after that, you know, now I have mostly, I don't know that I have many.
I have mostly black friends.
Right.
And we appreciate the way you cast because we know you of us. Thank you. that mean thank you i'm gonna just take it no i'm just saying because you know one of the most awkward things in the world
for me right as a person who smokes weed is to see somebody who don't smoke weed smoke weed
and then you're seeing them like oh you're like this is not how we smoke
we enjoy
you know what I mean
like when I just smoke cigarettes
I see somebody go like this
I'm like motherfucker
if you love cigarettes
you won't smoke no cigarette like that
I love that
I love the authenticity
I can look at that shit
and I can see
like your characters to me are authentic
thank you
whether they be authentic or not
it's still acting
but to me
like your
audience and I'm a part of it,
we indulge into this. Like
I said, I believed
her name, Camille?
Camille, yeah. I believed her.
Like, honestly, I doubted
it. I doubted her at first because I was
just like, wait a minute. Like, does she have
experience to like follow an Issa
Ray show? Like, you know what I'm saying? I was like, yo, and then I was like, you must a minute. Like, does she have experience to, like, follow an Issa Rae show?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
I was like, yo.
And then I was like, you must have been on set coaching.
Every single day.
Not coaching, but just observing and giving notes.
But every single day, absolutely.
Do you make a guest appearance on this one?
No.
For me, it's all behind the scenes.
But, you know, it's mine. Are you directing?
It's mine.
I did not direct.
No, I just produced it.
I saw the credits
and it was you, you, you, you
Yeah, not
on the directing side, directing is not
for me right now, but we had
great directors, shout out to Sade
who directed our first two
Oh, it's different directors each episode?
Yeah, so Sade directed our first two and then we have
other directors throughout the show
Jay Ellis, who plays Lawrence he directed our first two, and then we have other directors throughout the show. Jay Ellis, who plays Lawrence, he directed our finale.
So I'm really proud of him.
And I saw one of the dudes from Insecure in the first episode.
Yeah, that would be Sharonis.
Yeah, yeah.
Yes, who played Dro, Sharonis.
And then there are a couple cameos throughout, but I am not in it.
I am a homeboy from a lot of people don't think I knew this from Vice Principals.
Who? The baby
father. He's from Vice Principals.
RJ Silas from Vice Principals?
Yeah, you never seen Vice Principals. No, but I
just got into him. Danny McBride threw
the new show. Did you watch that one
on HBO? The Religious
Righteous Gemstones?
You motherfucking mother fucker!
You fuck with the Righteous Gemstones? They creatures, that's you niggas. religious or righteous gemstones and they pop in you yeah what yeah oh it's a
scripted show yes you make me think as. Yeah, because you make me think it's a documentary. Yo, these are preachers and they're just No, no, no, no, no. It's Danny McBride
and they're rich
but they're some
corrupt motherfuckers
and it makes you think
that they're trying to say
like how these preachers
are now.
Yeah, all of them
are correct.
All of them are like that
and they had like a
congregation where
one guy got caught
by a reporter
and he goes and tells him
he goes like,
yo, man,
if he came and got me,
he's going to get y'all.
And then they're like,
well, you're on your own on this one.
And he starts telling them,
you know I know about your shit.
You know I know about your shit.
Did he die right after I said shit?
Yeah, he jumps over this shit.
Preacher Mafia?
Yeah, basically.
You know what else you put me on to?
And I didn't watch it yet,
but I'm very curious.
What?
F-Boy Island.
I heard you talk about...
That's my shit.
And it's season two
just came out.
Well, I saw the commercial
right before you joined us.
Oh, I...
The happiest moment for me
was watching season two
of F-Boy Island
and seeing a preview
for Rap Shit.
I was like,
look at this.
But it's good.
It's just good trash, you know?
And I think that that's essential.
You have to have
good quality trash.
Yeah.
And that's what I watch.
Like, when I want to
turn my mind off, I watch every single dating show known to man.
So, FBoy Island, the F stands for?
Fuckboy.
Fuckboy, yeah.
Okay, it's Fuckboy Island.
Yeah, like, P-Valley is Pussy Valley.
Okay.
Wasn't ready.
But.
You watch it?
You haven't watched it yet, you said.
P-Valley?
No, FBoy Island. I haven't watched, you said. P-Valley? No, F-Boy Island.
I haven't watched F-Boy Island or P-Valley yet.
F-Boy Island, if you watch the first season, I think it's the ninth episode.
It has pissed so many men off in the best way.
I think it's worth watching just for that ninth episode.
I think it's the greatest.
It's an educational piece?
It's not educational.
Sure.
Yeah.
Why not?
I think it's just really, really like in your face.
And it violates a bro code in a way that the men get really mad watching it.
Yeah.
It's really good.
Okay.
Are we ready for a quick time of slime?
Let's do it.
And by the way, we got juicy.
This is juices.
My wife owns a juice bar.
This is coconut water.
Let's go, Gemini wife.
All types.
You know what I'm saying?
Business.
Let's go. Are we ready for a quick types of shit. You know what I'm saying?
Let's go. Are we ready for a quick time or something?
We got Tyson lights.
Are you going to explain the rules?
Yeah.
Oh, this is the game.
This is the game.
You got your shot. What's your preference of shot?
I have this, but I already did too much.
I'm going to do some Ciroc with you, too.
What are you talking about?
I'm going to do some Ciroc with you, too.
We have been here for hours.
Or should I do Japanese deli on? Or should I do Japanese deli? Do you want to just sip your shot? I'm really going to do some Ciroc with you We have been here for Or should I be Or should I do Japanese deli on Or should I do
Japanese deli
Do you want to just
Sip your shot
You can sip it
I want a real shot
I didn't eat enough
We're going to tell you
Two names or two things
You pick one or the other
No shot
I'm familiar
So if you pick both
Or neither
I have to take a shot
Yes
But we all take it with you
We all take it
We only got
That's why y'all are gentlemen
Yes
I'm going to let you pick mine.
Do you want me to drink a surprise?
Are you drinking brown?
Or do you want me to drink Japanese Deleon?
We're all over the place right now.
Japanese Deleon.
Yeah, we have to keep in line with what's going on.
We have Dominican Mama Juana.
We would like some of that.
I do not recommend that.
Look, you should try it.
He's my friend, but someone makes that in the bathtub in Kendall.
You don't want none of that.
He's not in Kendall, man.
Listen, they make it in the bathtub wherever they at.
He's in Alapata.
In Alapata they make it in the bathtub, just me.
They make it like it's toilet wine.
Like gel wine, gel wine.
I'm sorry, I like these guys, but I'm just saying.
He's the Mama Juana king.
You're like, what is this fuck out of here? I'm just playing, I'm just playing. it's toilet wine. Like gel wine. I'm sorry. I like these guys, but I'm just saying.
He's the mama hana king.
What is this?
I'm just playing.
You can do voodoo with it, too.
See what I'm saying?
I don't fuck with ghosts.
But it's an herbal elixir.
So like absent type situation?
Are you hallucinating right now?
This shit don't make no sense.
He already caught on.
He can't make no sense of this.
I'm going to stick with Sarai.
If you go to DR, you will drink this.
And I'm sticking with the Japanese Deleon.
That's why you're going to make us stay away from the Dominican Republic now.
And this is the trick.
Okay, I'm going to chill on DR for a minute.
All right.
Oh, you've been going there?
I've been once.
I want to go back. You've had some episodes? I've had some episodes. I don't know where you're going to chill on DR for a minute. All right. Oh, you've been going there? Bro, you ready? I've been once. I want to go back.
You've had some episodes?
I've had some episodes.
I don't know where you're going to go.
I don't know where you're going to go with this one.
Okay.
Oh, wait, wait.
You sent it?
Yeah.
You ready?
Yes.
Lauren, no, Queen Latifah or MC Lyte?
Love me some MC Lyte with all my heart, but Queen Latifah or MC Lyte? Love me some MC Lyte with all my heart, but Queen Latifah.
U-N-I-T-Y.
Living single, U-N-I-T-Y, like her trajectory.
She's a rom-com queen.
Like she, they both look beautiful.
They have aged beautifully.
But Queen Latifah is that bitch that I aspire to on many levels.
So that's my bitch right there.
No disrespect, UNITY.
Who you calling a bitch?
Not you, Queen Latifah.
But did you realize, I came up with this theory the other day.
You can totally shut me down.
Please shut me down.
I think Queen Latifah invented Afrobeats.
No, man, no.
Please shut me down on this.
Go, go, go, go.
Because, look, she had the accent.
You want UNITY?
That's an accent.
Tell him to dance all right again.
That's it. There's no follow-up.
Tell him that's patois.
Tell him it's not a beat, number one.
I thought she was going to cover point one and two,
but she was like, see, she's got it.
Go, go, keep going.
Oh, my God. U-N-I-T-Y.
I was like, I'm going to listen to that.
That's Afro beats, man. That's Afro beats, man. That's Afro beats was like, I'm not listening to that. That's Afro beats, man.
That's Afro beats, man.
No, it's not.
First of all, there's no beat.
That's Afro beats there.
Hey, man, you got your opinion.
I got mine.
No, man.
Sometimes you the beat.
Sometimes you the wishy.
No, man.
You just said it
because you know
the patchwork in the record.
It's Afro beats.
Listen, man.
I'm sticking with my story, man.
Your story's terrible, man.
Sorry.
Sorry.
I don't support that.
I'm sorry.
Lauryn Hill or Rhapsody?
Well, that's unfair to Rhapsody.
I feel like Rhapsody would say Lauryn Hill,
and I love me some Rhapsody.
Yeah, well, his was crazy.
His was crazy.
Lauryn Hill technically only had one album, just Lauryn Hill.
Lauryn Hill defined.
Excuse me, she the Fugees, bro.
What are you talking about?
Yeah, but that's not her.
When you're saying Lauryn Hill.
What do you mean that's not her?
All right, but hold on, calm down.
What about just Lauryn Hill? It doesn't, no, that's not, Laur you say What about just Lauren Hill
Her discography it says just that. No, man, that is ridiculous. Do it yourself.
She only has one album.
I'm not going to Google it for what I know.
She only has one album.
Google is not going to tell me what I fucking know.
So tell me what other albums she has.
It don't matter.
The Unplugged album.
It does matter.
If you want to be a legend, you got to have...
The Unplugged album was technically an album.
It was.
It was.
It was her performing The Miseducation.
No, it wasn't.
The Unplugged album?
It was like the entire, like, it all falls down.
Well, Kanye Sample, and I can't remember what the album was called.
What was the album called?
I'm sorry to bust your bubble, but it's not the album.
But having an album is not the reason why you pick one person or the other.
Wait, how many albums you got?
Yes, it is!
No, it's not!
Yes, it is!
Go back to your Afrobeats, man.
Yeah, I'm gonna go there.
Just like you told me to go back to Reggaeton.
You were wrong then, and you're wrong now.
No, no, I told you not to do reggaeton.
Yeah, you were wrong then, and you're wrong now.
I was wrong.
I did not believe.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Who did you pick?
We forgot.
Lauryn Hill.
I still don't believe in you doing reggaeton.
Okay, this is a good one.
Dream Doll or Doja Cat?
Shout out to Dream Doll
who just performed
last night
wow
um
think she's phenomenal
Doja Cat
however
is my choice
just because
she's very versatile
I have
I'm partial to her
starts on the internet
and her viral fame
that led her
to who she is now
so Doja Cat
all that
and she's just
she's just dope
wait we didn't know that.
What did you have to do with her?
I'm saying like her journey.
Like, you know, she had to move into it.
And then she blew up. And she like
sustained that shit. That's hard.
Yeah. That's what's up.
Biggie or Big L?
Um,
Biggie.
You don't have to explain that. I won't. You don't have to explain that.
I won't.
You don't have to.
Set it off or poetic justice?
Damn.
Damn.
You can take a shot.
It's safe.
It's safe.
No, I'm committed committed like I said okay I
already have to pee I'm gonna go and set it off and off is who set it off is by
simple math poetic justice has Justice has two queens.
Set It Off has four queens.
Dang, you put math into this motherfucker.
So I'm going with that.
And the soundtrack.
I'm going to say the Set It Off soundtrack has an edge over Poetic Justice,
but I'm going to probably regret that.
You big on soundtracks.
You doing rap shit soundtrack?
A hundred percent.
And it's about to be fire. Okay.
Fire.
Okay.
Now the chaunchy.
You want to say the breakdown?
No.
No, we finished it.
We finished it.
Okay, we finished it.
Okay, okay.
Maybe not.
Depends how long it takes.
NWA or Wu-Tang Clan?
NWA.
LA.
Damn, that was way too fast.
You want to think about it a little bit?
Sorry.
No, I can't.
I respect Wu-Tang, but NWA, that's hometown. I thought you started blood walking or crip walking when you said it. Yeah, I did't um, I respect Wu Tang but NWA like, you know
Close step on her toes c? Yeah. It's like Calvert-Lobos and the Cripple Walker. How was it?
It was good.
I mean,
for Payla Bell, it was amazing.
You know?
I mean,
I don't think
no one's like
Cripple Walker
in the first year.
No,
come on.
I can't do a better
version,
so I can't judge,
you know what I mean?
Okay,
Lil Baby
or Da Baby?
Lil Baby.
Okay.
Kendrick or Cole?
Kendrick.
I'm always going to be partial to my hometown.
I like J. Cole a lot, but Kendrick is Compton.
Absolutely.
I respect that.
Eve or Missy?
We ain't drink yet.
We ain't drink yet.
Because I'm very solid in my opinions.
All right, let's go.
I like this.
We got to drink something, though.
Eve or Missy.
Missy came first, right?
Mm-hmm.
So, and she's a pioneer.
People are still imitating her.
Eve is outstanding.
A lyrical genius.
Hell, her own, but I'm going to go with Missy.
Okay.
Tupac or DMX?
Mm. Tupac. DMX? Tupac.
But DMX,
rest in peace.
Both of them,
rest in peace.
I'm going to go a lot.
She's definitely
on some gang shit.
Nipsey or Easy?
Nipsey or who?
Or Easy.
Or Easy.
They're both the same gang.
That's the same gang.
Nipsey inspired me
so, so, so much
and actively
and got a chance to meet him and just fuck with everything that he's about. So Nipsey inspired me so, so, so much. Right. And actively and got a chance to meet him
and just fuck with everything that he's about.
So Nipsey all day. This is after you
had beef with Lori Lundin, right?
But you had beef with her?
What the fuck? Ooh, Nori, you
messy. Hey, man.
I was just being like, this is a new show.
It popped up
in the Googles. I'm sorry. You know, we had a
misunderstanding and that is my bitch. That's right. That popped up in the Googles. I'm sorry. You know, we had a misunderstanding,
and that is my bitch.
That's right.
That's what I'm talking about.
Okay.
Young M.A. or Remy Ma?
Remy Ma.
Okay.
Alicia Keys or Erykah Badu?
Erykah Badu.
Why are they in the same category?
Because I feel like they both like incense.
What kind of incense?
I just feel like you're going to either one of their cribs.
They got the best incense in the world. I'm going to buy incense from Erica.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
This is a good one.
Kanye West or Pharrell?
Pharrell.
I like their loyalty.
Entourage or
Curb Your Enthusiasm?
Curb Your Enthusiasm. I love it.
Superior. I love it.
Podcast or
radio?
Radio.
Yeah, podcast.
All day.
Dre or Quick?
Ooh.
Dr. Dre.
Or DJ Quick?
Ooh.
California.
I'm going to drink to that one.
What's your shot?
That is water, girl.
Come on.
All right, cool.
This is the Japanese deli arms, you know.
And this is the Dominican that you know.
Well, I love my job.
This is what people know.
Okay.
Drake or Wayne?
Drake.
Yes.
But shout out to Wayne for discovering Drake.
Word up.
He wins anyway. Movies or series?
Series
Series
Series are so much better
Than movies right now
Y'all go to the movies?
The actual movies?
No
Yeah
I don't think nobody
Been in the movies
Since the pandemic
Actually I just went with my kids
For the first time
In a long time
I want to go see Top Gun
Top Gun was phenomenal
Who the old Top Gun?
No the new one
I heard that
That's why I want to go see it They ain't supposed to be Remaking Top the old Top Gun? No, the new one. I heard that. That's why I want to go see it.
They ain't supposed to be remaking Top Gun.
That's too much of a class.
It was a remake.
It was a sequel.
It was a sequel?
Who killed it?
Tom Hanks came back?
Tom Hanks.
I mean, Tom Cruise?
What?
If Tom Hanks did it, he would have killed it too.
Tom Cruise?
Tom Cruise?
Tom Cruise came back?
What?
He killed that.
Yeah, he did the whole movie.
He produced it.
Did he direct it?
No, he didn't direct it.
Somebody. What he doing in there? You seen him on the jet? They flying real motherfucking planes in there. Yeah, he did the whole movie. He produced it. Did he direct it? No, he didn't direct it. Somebody.
What he doing in there?
You seen him on the jet?
They flying real motherfucking planes in there.
Yeah, they do.
They do.
He spent like 10,000 hours there.
It's like a good action movie.
I mean, I haven't seen it, but that's what everybody says.
You have to see it.
That brought me back to there.
Jay Ellis is in it.
Lawrence is in it, too, if you want to support your people.
It makes you want to go, America!
When you leave.
It did not make me want to go.
Yeah.
I fucked with it.
Go ahead.
Okay.
I'm going to go see Nope, too.
I can't wait to see Nope in theaters.
Shout out to Nope.
Jordan Peele's movie?
Oh, I want to see that.
Yeah.
Yeah, I want to see that.
Jordan Peele, Kiki Palmer, Dale Coogan.
Oh, the scary movie, nigga.
Yes.
Yeah.
Get out.
That's him.
Get out.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't fuck with him.
So you serious?
You watch more series than movies.
Listen, I'm not going to lie to you.
I was a movie guy.
Me too.
I was the guy that went to DVD Palace.
They called me like two weeks before the movie came out.
I got the exclusive and I would go to 42nd Street or get the DVD and I would go home and I would watch.
I'm a movie buff
but recently
I started to
I started to want more
out of my shows
like The Wire
like The Wire
I remember The Wire
having an off season
like remember The Wire
the construction
oh yeah
season two
I was like
I'm not watching this show
season two was the best season
no no
the whole Wire
the whole Wire
was phenomenal
series ever and then when you like finish the season the series you appreciate it season two was the best season? No, no. No, the whole wire. The whole wire was phenomenal.
Series ever.
And then when you, like, finished the season, the series, you appreciated season two.
But while I was watching season two, I was like, what are all these white people talking about? There was a couple seasons of the whole thing.
It was just one.
It was just one.
Everything else was phenomenal.
Yeah.
Future or young thug?
Future or young thug?
Future.
I feel like any answer is toxic. I'm going with young thug? Yes. I feel like any answer is toxic.
I don't know a young thug.
Young thug.
My sister rocks with him super, super hard.
She got me into him in a major way.
Wow.
Okay.
Kiss or fab?
He's taking too long.
Jada kiss or fab? He's taking too long. Jada Kiss or fab?
Yeah.
Fabulous.
Okay.
I, like, you know, kind of more grew up on,
my high school was dictated by fab more than Jada Kiss.
Jersey fab?
Did he have on jerseys?
Yes, jerseys, throwbacks, all that.
Like, that was my favorite era.
And the dudes that I had crushes on,
fuck with Jadakiss.
So I was more on Fab.
Okay.
I also put on Fab, too.
I just want you to know.
Did you?
Yeah.
His first time he ever freestyled
was with me on Hot 97.
DJ Clue asked me
would I let another artist come up there.
I was the hottest guy in the world.
I could have said no.
I said yes.
From that moment on,
Fabulous has established who he is.
Let's take a shot for that.
Let's take a shot.
You don't have roses for him?
No, no, no.
Okay, get on the next one, E.
First of all, y'all doubled up on that one,
guys. MTV Raps
or Rap City?
We did that already. You doubled up.
Yeah, we doubled up.
Rap City was the one on BET. or Rapsody? No, we did that already. We did that already. You doubled up. Yeah, we doubled up. Ten cuidados.
Cámate, loco.
Rapsody was the one on BET.
Yeah.
Rapsody with Big Tigger?
Yeah.
Big Tigger?
And Joe Clear.
There's different versions.
Joe Clear.
You don't remember Joe Clear?
Yeah, there was the basement.
There was the other Rapsody
that was just Rapsody.
The Rapsody was the basement.
ID General Rapsody, by the way.
The basement.
Wait, so was Rapsody
with Big Tigger
or was the basement with Big Tigger or was the basement
with Big Tigger?
Big Tigger was the basement, yeah.
So what was Rap City?
No, no, they're all Rap City.
They're all Rap City.
There was Rap City in the basement,
just Rap City.
Oh, okay.
I honestly didn't like any of them.
Jesus.
This is a shot.
So you went Rap City
and then said,
fuck Rap City?
Yeah, because I would always be like,
oh, I'm not...
I think it was just that I DJ'd it.
She said, fuck that shit.
No, I respect that.
Sorry.
La binga.
Chris Brown or Usher?
Ooh.
Come on.
Who's cheat notes over here?
Listen.
They being politically correct.
They don't want you to hear it.
No, I mean, I saw his interview here, too, and I love that he's like, you know, the verses.
Who?
Chris?
Chris.
Yeah.
That's hard.
No, it's not hard.
Usher is a pioneer, and I feel like he came first.
He did come first.
So I'm going to go Usher.
And what if Usher come out on roller skates?
Easily.
Then it's even more.
It's 100% solid.
Well, you think
he's going to deter
roller skates?
I don't want to fuck with him.
I thought about that.
If he come around
backwards on roller skates.
If he go backwards
on roller skates,
I'm lying.
He got the T-Rex arms.
I don't know why I did that.
Because he thinks
that when you roller skate,
you got to go forward.
You got to have your hands
out when you roller skate.
You're going to fall. You're going to fall. You know what I mean? That's me roller skating. And he thinks that when you roller skate, you got to go forward. You got to have your hands out when you roller skate. You're going to fall.
You're going to fall.
You know what I mean?
That's me roller skating.
And he can roller skate backwards.
I think that's like the sexiest thing in the world.
You didn't see that?
He was like that.
He was like that.
In New York one day, I didn't like it.
I was like, why?
Why you keep that shit in Atlanta, brother?
Outkast at UGK.
Ooh, that's a hard one.
Outkast, you know, because of also what Andre 3000 just did for influencing an entire culture of artists, of black artists, black male artists.
Andre 3000 made it okay to be different in the best way. So I have so much respect for UGK, though, but I fuck with Outkast.
SWV or TLC? in the best way. So, I have so much respect for UGK though, but I fuck with OutKast. Yup.
Uh,
SWV
or TLC?
Yup.
Oh,
you just fuck it.
Yeah,
I'm drinking.
That's both.
Exactly.
Can't do it.
Exactly.
UGKast.
UGKast.
Okay.
We got two more
and then we're going to get back
into the interview.
That's it.
Can we get back to the next one? Yes, we're going to. Yeah, yeah. yeah. OK. We got two more, then we're going to get back into the interview. That's it. OK, you want to go to the next one?
Yes, we're going to.
Please.
All right.
Jodeci or Jagged Edge?
Jodeci, easy.
Sorry.
We should have did Jodeci or New Edition.
Still would have been Jodeci.
Still would have been Jodeci?
Yeah, yeah!
That's how KC used to yell to me.
That's not.
Don't do KC like that.
Ah! I see KC yell with that. It should be's not. Don't do KC like that. Ah! What is this?
I see KC yell all the time.
It should be Joyce or New Edition.
New Edition or Jackson 5.
Ooh.
Jackson 5.
They made it possible for New Edition.
You going first, first.
Yeah, yeah.
OK.
Am I the only one that has just straight?
No, no, no.
Yeah, you went straight and you ate.
I looked at Trina's and she was like, she drank 72 times.
Yeah.
Some people just go in though.
Some people want to just pick both.
Both.
Yeah.
All right.
This is the last one.
Everyone thinks it's a trick question.
To me, it's not a trick question.
Loyalty or respect?
It is a trick question.
Yeah, sometimes.
Okay, both.
Okay.
To me, that's the answer.
That's the answer we think is the best.
That's the answer.
Okay, you guys take your wrapping break?
Yeah!
Yeah, I'm gonna take my best for breaking.
Oh my God, so badly.
Thank you.
We're about to leave our culture cards.
We're about to leave our culture cards.
Yeah.
Fire.
Trading cards, like NFT trading cards.
Oh.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, this Frenchie, everybody.
Frenchie!
Yeah.
Yeah, I feel like he like damn near slumdog billionaire cuz it's somehow
This nigga knows everybody
everybody
By the way, we don't have that many females for us We've been on a female kick. We got Gacy Boop coming up. Already filmed.
Then we got
Pat and Trina.
And then Patti LaBelle.
And we have the motherfucking
Issa Rae.
And the ladies are always the best.
You guys are the best.
Does Lisa Rae hate you?
Oh my God.
You know what's crazy?
I have gone most of my career with people being like,
Lisa Rae coming?
No, Lisa Rae.
Oh.
I'm not going to lie.
I told my homie, yo, Lisa Rae coming.
Oh, Benzino's?
I'm like, what?
Wait, Benzino?
I don't know.
I don't know.
You just said it.
And I was like, that's wrong.
It's not Lisa Rae. No, and then I met that? Benzino? I don't know. I don't know. You just said it. And I was like, that's wrong. It's not Lisa. It's not Lisa.
No, and then I met her at like, I'm going to say some Ebony thing or Essence thing.
And she was just so nice.
She was like, girl, people confuse me for you.
I was like, what?
Girl, people are always disappointed to see me because of you.
And she was just, she was great.
But I'm not going to lie.
Whenever I'm at an email, I'm at a hotel or whatever, or like trying to sign up for a fake site, I put LisaRae at gmail.com.
So I hope that's not her email.
You got a LisaRae Gmail?
That's what I use.
That's my fake email.
So I hope that she's not LisaRae at gmail.com because she's getting all my spam.
Holy shit.
I wasn't ready.
I wasn't ready. That was funny as shit because I kept saying ready. I wasn't ready.
That was funny as shit.
Like I'm saying, yeah, we could be, I was like, Lisa Rae's still around.
I was like, no, Lisa Rae.
They're like, oh, insecure.
I'm like, oh, yeah.
Lisa Rae is still around, guys.
She's out here.
Yeah, goddammit, goddammit.
Oh, shit.
Peace to me.
She might be.
Need to be on Drink Champs, too.
Getting to you.
Yeah.
What was the moment where you felt like you made it?
The moment where I felt like I made it.
Or do you feel you've made it yet?
I think that made it is like you're done.
Right.
So I feel like...
Well, join the party.
Like Patti LaBelle, for example.
I love that.
She feels that there's a lot more she's got to do and I believe her because right
Patti pie came when she was like what 60 some yep
So like what else she was talking about. There's a wine coming out
Um, I feel like I feel like I have so much more to do I like I've only written
One TV show now to this area right now and all this all that I have right now has come from a web series and one TV show.
So I'm like, I haven't done a movie yet.
As far as me as a creator, I haven't done so much.
And so I feel like there's just so much more for me to do and do well,
and even outside of the entertainment industry.
So I feel very
much like, yeah, I am
kind of just getting started. And you swore
off not doing a movie for Insecure
and I was mad
until I seen Soprano's movie.
And then I was like,
she might be right.
Because sometimes if you take too long,
they stop identifying. Oh, a movie for
Insecure. Yeah. That would be a dope movie though. But, long, they stop identifying. Oh, a movie for Insecure. Yeah.
Damn, that would be a dope movie, though.
But, but.
No, it wouldn't.
Yes, it would.
The Sex and the City movie was good.
Sex and the City movie was okay.
Okay, so why would an Insecure movie be good?
And they had two Sex and the City movies.
And the second one they said wasn't great.
I don't think I saw the second one.
I think I saw both.
I got a wife.
Yeah.
You think?
You don't even remember.
I don't remember either.
It wasn't to have an impression on you.
And I don't want that. I don't want like, oh't having an impression on you. And I don't want that.
I don't want like, oh, this show meant so much to me.
The movie, you know.
I just want it to like go down.
I like the Entourage movie.
No, that movie wasn't great.
My song was in there, sir.
I don't want this debate.
That movie was amazing.
I like the movie.
That movie was great.
Yeah.
No, I'm just fucking around.
You didn't like the Entourage movie either?
I didn't see it.
It wasn't a good movie.
It wasn't a good movie. It wasn't a good movie.
Was you a fan of Entourage?
I watched it later after it was on.
I watched up until the very last season.
I never finished the show, but I liked it.
I liked what I saw.
It was just like a very dude show to me.
When you were like, oh, it's a chick flick for Insecure.
That's how I felt.
I was like, oh, this is a dude show.
This is very much made for dudes, but I still fuck with it.
What's your favorite series that you wish you would have produced?
That you got someone, let's suppose someone presented you something.
Abbott Elementary.
I'm going to say that right now.
Quinta's show.
I'm just like, Quinta.
Y'all haven't seen Abbott Elementary, bro?
No.
Okay.
Where's it at?
Hulu?
It's on ABC, but yes, it airs on Hulu.
It's a network show, network comedy.
And network comedies haven't been as popping.
Everything you watch is on streaming for the most part.
And she broke out the mold.
She's funny as fuck the entire cast.
It has OGs and new people.
And it's just funny. And it's just such a simple premise
and theory of just like a mockumentary
in an elementary school.
And it's just funny.
But can you explain to people
what mockumentaries is?
You know, like The Office.
Right, right.
Modern Family.
The Office is a mockumentary?
Yeah.
I thought that was how white people were.
It's the style of filming.
It's the style of...
It's not a documentary. It's the style of filming like the way it's the style of filming it's the style of it's not a documentary it's the style of filming no it's the style it's it they're actors but
they're acting like they're not it's almost like a reality show it's curvy enthusiasm mockumentary
oh that's a good question no because they don't have confessionals okay it's more shot in like a
kind of confessionals they stay in the office though, there's no green screen.
Yeah, it's like, it's literally like documentary style, mockumentary, but the curve is just
shot like raw, I want to say.
Yeah, I love it.
I love it.
When I found out, like, it's like improv, like, like almost improv.
That they have like bullet points.
Yeah, bullet points.
Yeah, yeah.
That's how I did, I'm not auditioning for you, but that's... No, you... I'm going to start with the text.
Come on.
She's going to eventually see it.
I have followers who are tagging you.
I've sent you a reel of my acting.
You paid them for it?
Yeah, paid them for it.
It's not a reel.
It's just one scene.
That doesn't count as a reel.
But it was phenomenal.
I thought she was going to die the whole time.
I thought he was going to shoot you the whole time.
Because, like, you were... What the like, you were that convincingly annoying.
That I was like, oh, he's about to pop in.
Do you know I freestyled that whole shit?
Oh, what?
Listen, I landed.
I'm on tour.
I'm on tour.
I promise you.
And first off, I filled out for Alpo.
What?
You what?
I auditioned.
Alpo, the real gangster.
...to be the actual...
Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah.
...in that movie, to be Alpo, which is Rico.
Which is, I think Cameron played it.
So I went there, and you know who helped me do my rehearsal?
It was Wood Harris.
Right.
Who is incredible.
Incredible.
Yeah, absolutely.
Where is he, like, and not no disrespect...
He should be doing way more....like, way more. We can talk about The Wire, but please go ahead.
So at the time I was super overweight. You were super what? Overweight. I was super overweight.
So I knew they was gonna give me the role, but I went and I killed the audition.
And I knew what it was. So I went and, but they still wanted me a part of the movie.
So they said to me, please.
So then I lost weight.
I went on tour.
What? For the movie?
No.
Oh, just in life.
I was just in life.
And then they said, yo, so we want you.
So I was like, where's the lines?
And they was like, you don't have lines.
So I was like, oh, shit.
So I'm just going to be here just waving my hand.
Talking shit.
And they was like, no, no, no. We want you to come up with the lines. So they thought I was that ill shit so I'm just gonna be here just waving my hands and it was like no no
we want you to come up with the lines so they thought I was that ill but I I sat there and I
was like of course I got the line but I had nothing so I was like all right cool and that's
a time period piece so you can't say so I can't say no slang I can't say modern day slang so
I'm not trying I'm not trying to big myself up, even though I am giving myself my own flowers.
I did that in one take.
One take?
And that's what they used?
That's what they used.
I did it again, but that's...
That's two takes.
No, no, no.
What they used was my first take.
No, no, listen.
What they used was my first take.
Okay.
But they did record me for safety.
Did they use some safety tape? But they did not use that safety. They used my first take. Okay. But they did record me for safety. Did they use some safety tape?
But they did not use that safety.
They used my first take.
They used the first...
So what have you done since then?
I've been fucking up.
I ain't been outside.
Whatever you put on is what he's doing.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Let me tell you my discography.
Kevin Hart's first movie is with me.
What was the first movie?
Soul Plane?
No, Paper Soldiers. Paper Soldiers. We before Soul Plane. Paper Soldiers. That's Kevin's first movie. with me. What was the first movie? Soul Plane?
No, Paper Soldiers.
We before Soul Plane.
Paper Soldiers, that's Kevin's first movie.
I gave him a gun in the movie.
That was your character's role was being like,
Yeah, but it was the way he gave him the gun.
Yeah, it was fantastic.
How did you do it?
I gave him a gun in the front of the room.
It was the front of the room, his mom's died.
How did you pass it to him?
I was like, you need this, you know what I mean?
And then they was like, cut His mom's died. How do you pass a pen? I was like, you need this. And then they was like, cut!
Straight! Straight!
And then I noticed that.
I just give him one for that one.
And then I saw it in one movie.
You haven't seen none of these.
It's called State Property 2.
Oh, first of all,
State Property 2
are huge in Senegal.
When I tell you my cousins, my summers watching that, it was violent.
I don't really fuck with violence because I get squeamish.
But when I tell you my cousins gathered around the living room to watch state property 1 and state property 2.
We got to go to Senegal.
I just love your cousins.
I'm just throwing it out there.
We got to go over there.
We got to come home over there. They watch state property 2 because that's what I'm concerned about. They watch State Property 2. Oh, we got to go to Senegal. I just love your cousins. I'm just throwing it out there. We got to go over there. We got to come home over there.
Well, they watch the State Property 2
because that's what I'm concerned about.
They watch State Property 2.
I was there that summer when they watched State Property 2
and I was like, I can't watch this.
It's too violent for me.
They called me up Puyo Loco in there.
Really?
Yeah.
I was geared to it.
That's a good name.
Yes.
So I'm just throwing my hat in the ring.
For me?
Yeah, yeah.
In case any, like, you know, role pops up.
I already told y'all if you show up for rap shit, like, that's it. For me? Yeah, yeah, in case any, like, you know, role pops up. I told y'all, if you show up
for rap shit, like, that's it. We've already
signed the contracts off screen.
I like
your negotiation staff.
I like your negotiation staff.
I'm in, I'm in, I'm in.
Holy shit. But, alright, so, because you make
everybody audition, right?
I don't make everybody audition. Okay,
because, so, like, I'm a legend. Yo, you know this is your only audition right I don't like everybody I just okay cuz so like I'm a legend okay
but who's somebody that you you you you you like had to audition and they was
offended there was offended it's a couple of I don't want to name like
Danny DeVito came he was like you, you got to... That would be 11, though. Danny DeVito has never
put the profile
of any character.
But that one, he should.
He should be
in one of his shows.
Danny DeVito is phenomenal.
I just haven't had
a place for him.
He would never have
to audition for me
because he's a legend.
Twins, that movie,
like, came up on Twins.
Twins is my shit.
Like, I'm on Danny DeVito.
I love him.
What's the other one? Danny DeVito, he's in the Philadelphia series. No, I'm on it. Yeah. I love him. What's the other one?
Danny DeVito.
He's in the Philadelphia series.
No, that's true.
Oh, that's never sunny in Philadelphia.
That shit's dope, man.
That shit's dope.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he's like a director, and a lot of people don't know that.
I think that's his show.
Is it?
I believe.
He's in it.
I think.
I've never been like, oh, this person needs to audition for me.
I've always been pleasantly surprised by who auditions.
I'm like, oh, you auditioned?
Like, you didn't have to do that.
Was it ever awkward in that way, though?
But the thing is, it never happens to me directly.
They will send a tape, and then I'm like, oh.
But in some cases, like a Kyla Pratt, for example.
Kyla Pratt, I have so much respect for her.
I've watched her growing up.
She auditioned for a role on Insecure
and seeing her, I was like, this is kind of proud. This is royalty. This is LA royalty. This is my
childhood royalty. This is just general royalty. Like there was never a world where she would need
to audition, but I'm glad she did because it made me remember her. And then we cast her. So there's
things like that where it's like, there are legends that I fuck with who I would never imagine would need to audition.
But when they do, I'm reminded and I'm like, yes, immediate casting.
Or Prentice is like, immediate casting when we find a role for them.
But is it always immediate?
Like, even the legends might not fit the role, though.
No, it's not always immediate, but we might find a role for them.
Like, y'all know Polly J. Parker
from Friday
and Proud Family
and all that.
Like,
she had auditioned
for a role
and it was just exciting
to be able to cast her
for Insecure
just because of who she is,
but she's also
mad talented.
And you got
Amanda Sills, too.
Oh, yeah.
At that time,
on Insecure.
On Insecure, yeah,
because I met her
from back in the day doing shade 45
wait did y'all meet at shade 45 no i can't remember where we first met but she hit me up we
she hit me up to do her web series i remember she came to la for a trip and then she hit me up
like saying that she was going to do a web series called Get Your Life.
And I was like, we should distribute it.
And then she auditioned for Insecure.
And she was the best Tiffany.
And that was it.
Because she Hollywood?
With the Hollywood boyfriend?
Hollywood boyfriend?
That's why I'm insecure.
You think her boyfriend, her husband
is insecure as Hollywood? You don't?
No, he was like a nerdy dude.
That's like Hollywood to me. He was like black nerdy.
Yeah, black nerdy. That's Hollywood
to you as black nerdy? It's pretty much the same shit.
Let me find out. Nah, man.
He was just a regular nerdy dude. No.
He's like
nerd with swag, though.
It was cool. He was just a regular dude
Yeah
I would hang out with him
Y'all know each other?
No
I would play handball with him
You would play handball
I feel like he would be
The best handball player
Have you ever played handball?
Shout out to Wade
He's the most
He's the best person
You could ever meet
If you met him
You would play handball with him
You would also go to dinner with him
You would just kick his ass
God damn
Let's make some more events
Yeah
Shout out to Wade
But we talking about the character, not the dude.
You know, that's the series I want to make about a handball player.
Yo, the pitching doesn't stop here.
That wears new ports.
You got to open up the budget.
You ready for the budget?
You got to open up the budget.
Because handballs are under.
Anything for him.
Listen, listen.
Handball.
Have you ever played handball?
You ever heard about handball?
Yeah, yeah.
That's when I came back to L.A. and I was like, handball, what is this? And I was like, I was made for him. Listen, listen. Handball. Have you ever played handball? You ever heard about handball? That's when I came back to LA and I was like,
handball? What is this? And I was like,
I was made for it. Because it belonged in the Olympics
to me. It what? It belonged in the Olympics
to me. I agree. I think
handball belongs in the Olympics. Crip walking
belongs in the Olympics. Roller skating.
Backwards.
Backwards. I'm actually agreeing with everything.
Those are like
double dutch. Is double dutch the way in Olympics?
They do a downgraded version.
In the Olympics?
Yeah, I think they got like a jump rope.
Nah.
Yeah, I think they do like this.
Wait, it's literally just like that.
They don't got no jump rope like that.
They do what they do.
You know what they do.
Yeah, I think that deserves a thing. You know how they do it. Come on.
Yeah, I think that deserves a thing.
That's why we should make a hood Olympics.
Oh, my God.
Because the way that black people do gymnastics.
Have you seen the videos of black people just doing gymnastics?
Or black people doing parkour?
Yeah.
We are so dynamic in a way.
And we be flipping with soul.
With ease.
Yeah.
And I feel like there's no comparison we can't, there's no comparison.
It's real shit.
No, we just automatically win gold medals, so I do think there needs to be a hood olympics,
a black olympics, whatever it is.
Are you cosigning my idea?
It's your idea?
Because I feel like I heard it.
I think he pitched the idea, he wants you to open up the budget.
You got more money than I do.
Stop your lying!
What did you say?
What did you say? She said you got more money.
No, no, no.
Hold on.
No, no.
We going to get to the Olympics.
Listen.
And you know we're also going to play the game.
What are the categories?
So it's double dutch.
Double dutch.
It's gymnastics.
Still in the car.
What the fuck?
There's some great coffee.
You need to have like the separate.
No, there has to be like.
The Chico Olympics.
We the Latinos in there.
See, now you get racist.
That's racist right there.
First of all,
we black and we all over the place.
Okay, but what's our guy?
The fact that you just do
with the Latinos
to be the thieves in the car.
We play baseball.
No, we play good ball.
That's already.
Stick ball.
Stick ball.
Stick ball.
Stick ball.
Yeah, handball.
We just talked about that.
Handball, that's Latino shit.
Handball, that's Latino shit.
You got that. I'm the guy that come out with the headband on. I like that. Handball, that's Latino shit. Handball, that's Latino shit. You got that.
I'm the guy to come out with the headband on.
I like that.
You know what I mean?
I'm ready to play.
He wears his Puerto Rican shirt.
I'm ready to play, yes.
Can you still play handball?
I thought I could.
I messed up my knee the other day.
But in my respect, it was a weight on the floor.
Oh, somebody sabotaged you.
Yeah, yeah, because, listen, I was...
I was beating everybody.
I was beating everybody
and then someone threw a weight on the floor.
That's a lie.
No, that's a lie.
It was a weight already on the floor.
It was a weight already on the floor
and I got loose.
I thought it was Jordan.
Jordan of handball?
Yeah, I thought it was the Mike Jordan of handball.
You know what I'm saying?
And then I hit my foot
and then my foot has never been the same since.
But my heart is still in the game.
Did y'all play tetherball?
Did y'all ever?
Wait.
Tetherball, the string stick?
And it goes in circles.
Oh, you throw it around?
I played that in LA, actually, when I went to school.
And I was an elementary in LA.
So it's the LA thing.
Is it tetherball, LA thing?
I don't know.
I played in LA.
No, no, no.
No, white people play that, too.
But you throw it around.
First of all, don't.
All right.
Don't diminish tetherball.
I'm going to throw that out there. This is what? It's kind of white, that game. No, it's not. I of all, don't. All right. Don't diminish. I'm going to throw that out there.
It's kind of white.
No, it's not.
I mean, I don't know.
In Southgate, I played in, there's Mexicans in Southgate.
There's all Latinos in Southgate.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, the partnership's over.
Let's get to your famous speech.
My famous speech.
What's my famous speech?
The famous speech.
His segue was amazing right now.
Oh, my God. Because. The partnership's over. Well, let's speech? The famous speech. His segway was amazing right now. Oh my God, because...
The party's over. Well, that's your favorite speech right now.
You said that you entered your inner rapper.
Oh yeah, my entrepreneur speech.
Entrepreneurism, because I can't pronounce that word.
You did it great right now, bro.
I did?
Yeah, man. You killed that.
The entrepreneurism speech award.
Okay.
So you got up there. Your popsurism Speech Award. Okay. You got up there.
Your pops was there, which was awkward.
My dad just randomly walked into the room.
He wasn't supposed to be there?
Because you were basically saying...
No, I didn't invite anybody in my family there.
I don't invite my family to anything except...
You were a foul.
No, but in this speech...
No, I don't want to bother them.
What do you mean?
They're proud of you.
Yeah.
It felt like you had this planned out.
You was going to say... Because... Did Snoop make his speech prior to this?
Snoop, I hadn't even seen Snoop's speech.
Ever.
I didn't see Snoop's speech until people were comparing our two.
And I was like, oh, that's dope.
Snoop was like, I want to thank me.
Yeah.
Because you thanked you the whole time.
I was just arrogant about my shit.
I was just like on some braggadocious rapper shit where it's just like, I know what the fuck I did.
But it was.
You're like my lawyer.
Good looking, but whatever.
That was the only one I regret.
I was like, I say you are nothing.
And I meant to say like, you are nothing without me.
But it was you are nothing by itself.
Very harsh.
And I heard, you know how you hear a joke not go down
and i like wrote her an email apology after that i was like you know how
fuck we shoot super hard i feel like that's an episode of insecure right there yeah
was he in the crowd everyone you he wasn't in the crowd so he only so i feel like if he was
in the crowd he only saw the video and i guess like if he was in the crowd, he'd get it. So he only saw the video, and that's why I had to clarify, like, this not me.
But that was fun to do.
So you sitting at home, they said you have to give an acceptance speech.
And you saying, let me do the exact opposite of what these people think I'm going to do.
Is that what you had?
Yeah, I was in the hair and makeup for on their way to the event and i was like let
me write this speech and then it just came to me to just like go outside of myself and just be like
let me just not be humble about this shit not be like let me not sidestep and it was it just ended
up working out because you know it was just a more uh it more, it wasn't a stuffy event, but it was
just like very earnest.
Right.
And I think that that helped to break the ice.
I've been practicing my speech like that.
First of all, you already rap like that.
Okay, yeah.
A little bit, Ari.
Yeah.
I've been practicing my speech like that, but I ain't win shit.
So I can't.
Nobody's ever had a chance to use it.
Do you know the speech?
Let's hear it.
Oh, we got to bring up the speech.
The speech is legendary. You got it. Come on, come on, come on. Where's the iPad at? What, there's music to it? can I could nobody let's hear it okay you know we got a bit of a speech speech
is legendary you got it come on come on with the iPad what this music to it oh
yeah you can play the whole goddamn speech no no you gotta say his know your
speech oh why you've been praying oh no I want to hear his piece okay make sure Here's your very own David. Yay! Wow! Here are your flowers. Here's your flowers too.
Okay.
Make sure you give them back.
Thank you.
I'm taking it back.
Fuck y'all.
That's my speech.
That's it.
You said all of them.
All of them.
No, no, no.
I don't remember.
I don't remember the speech.
But I felt like, I felt like it was so dope it was so dope to um to see you playing
around but not playing around but playing around and just everyone laughing all your peers all
these uh uh these white women in the crowd they're looking and they're they're actually
laughing they're actually getting the joke like no is, although some people could take that as a serious thing,
but people was, is they actually getting the joke?
Yeah.
Like seeing it, I didn't know Viola Davis was there.
And so like watching it back, I was like, yeah, she was laughing.
Viola Davis laughing at me for her brilliant ass.
So it was just, it was cool to see it play back.
Up there, you know, I was nervous about how it was going to play.
And then, again, my dad walking in there randomly without me inviting him threw me off.
But, yeah, it was just.
Because he's like, it was me.
What did he think?
He didn't really say nothing afterwards.
I feel like he was like, my friends invited me.
I didn't even know you were getting an award.
And I was like, oh, good.
That's his accent?
He has, yeah.
He has a very good accent.
Obviously, he's from Senegal.
He's from Senegal.
He's been here for like over 30 years and still has an accent.
But, yeah, he didn't know what was going on.
I don't think he knew I was getting an award until his friends told him.
And that's why he came.
All right.
Do you know Akon?
Like in Senegal? They must know Akon? Like a synagogue?
They must know each other?
Just being honest.
No, I love you.
Just being honest.
Because, listen.
You know, y'all both Senegalese.
Do you know him?
In my mind, listen, I've been trying to get blacker forever,
so I've been trying to tell Akon.
What is your breakdown?
I am black and Puerto Rican.
But you did the, did you do the 23andMe, and you found out the real.
No, I ain't do no 23andMe. He was Irish. I was scared. My wife did it, and I wasican. But you did the, did you do the 23andMe and you found out the real.
No, I ain't do no 23andMe.
He found out he was Irish.
I was scared.
My wife did it.
And I was scared.
What are you?
Fully.
What's the highest percentage?
Yeah.
Why is she doing it and you didn't do it?
I got scared.
I don't know.
I don't know what they're doing.
You can't do that shit, man.
There's like.
You know what?
Boricua is going to show you some other shit. Hey, man. No, it's going to show you Spain. No, not me. I don't know what they're gonna do. You know what? Boricua is gonna show you some other shit.
No, it's gonna show you Spain.
I'm Cuban and I saw all kinds of crazy shit.
I'm 10% Chinese
and Spain. You're 10% Chinese?
Oh, because, yeah. Because what?
Because the Asian and Latino community
is like... I didn't know that.
My grandma, her grandfather
was full-blown Chinese
that went to Cuba. And you didn't know that until you did the grandma, her grandfather was full-blown Chinese that went to Cuba.
And you didn't know that until you did the thing?
We, it was a rumor.
And then she negated that rumor.
She wasn't proud of that.
And then 23andMe said, no, that's true.
Wow.
That just smells phenomenal.
Just shout out to the branding of that smoke.
It's that Superthug OG slash Smoke Champs.
So it's Smoke Champs. It's Indica and Sativa. It's Superthug OG slash Smoke Champs. So it's not, it's Smoke Champs.
It's Indica and Sativa.
It's Indica and Sativa
and whatever you want.
It's a blend.
Yeah.
We're not trying to tell you
you smoke,
you know what I mean?
We're not saying that.
Right now,
like, I can't crossfade.
I have terrible experiences.
Of what?
What is that called?
Crossfade?
When you're crossfaded
with alcohol and smoke,
it's not great for me.
Yeah.
Yeah, don't worry about it. It's not great for me. Yeah. Yeah.
Don't worry about it. It's good for your skin.
Is it?
If you tell me that, then I'm going to do it.
No, no, no.
It's good for your skin.
You're great.
No, it's just disgusting.
No, it's not.
That's why I do it.
Let's take another shot.
Let's take another shot.
Okay.
Yo, holy moly, guacamole.
Hey.
I actually have a serious question, though.
Okay.
Uh-oh.
Serious.
Uh-oh.
Barbara Walters over here.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Oh shit.
Oh shit.
Oh shit.
Being the series that you work on, they show a lot of social media influence and you yourself
coming through the YouTube content stuff.
Have you shifted in your view of how social media's impact... I mean, I don't even know
what your view was originally.
How social media's impacting society now, like
the generation now, like
I even changed, like, just before you even
answered, like, I used to tell people, well, it's how
I'm from the generation before social
media, so I use it as a tool
for my businesses,
and I saw it as just that, I never used it for
personal, like, showing my life,
I'm not from that generation,
and, but even now, so i used to be like
it's 50 50 but now i'm even leaning that it's even more negative than 50 50 yeah i think for me i i
identify with you uh but i i showed my life a lot because it felt more like in a specific community
like it was like just my friends seeing it and then of course when you're in a public environment things change I was never
in a public environment until things until things popped off for me and then I was like oh I have to
watch what I post and then it became like I'm super careful and self-conscious about what I post
because people will use that against you in a way but then I'm like my thing is the misinformation
that the number of times like friends people I associate with will send me links of things that are determined fact.
That pisses me off.
I'm like, don't send me shit until you have researched the fact that this is true or not.
Because like, it's just so it's so easy to be influenced by like, just like, oh, my favorite person said this was true.
So it's true and so
like for me like i recognize like the the harm in posting something that is still being debated like
i do hella research on anything i don't i don't comment on anything that isn't factual or that
i'm not like certain about his facts but it it's so easy. I see things spread.
I see misinformation spread.
And on a larger scale, it's affecting our country.
But on a smaller scale, it's like, you're dumb.
You're not even researching this.
Don't send this to me if you're not researching it.
Don't like have a conversation with me
if you haven't like looked up whether this is true or not.
When someone tells me a fact,
I will immediately look up like, is this this fact true and then go forward from that but i don't think
that that's the same for everybody or people just posting just to post just because it's just to be
out there new drug it is a drug it because you want the engagement and and that's the thing that
i don't think we've realized as a society that it's become it's we're fiends for the views
the likes and whatever oh yeah and I don't think we fully come to terms with that you know in our
in our society right now like I think and specifically to entertainment because it's the
new way that we we have to engage with audiences we promote with audiences so we're like ah yeah
this is what we have to do but i think that there's a greater
bad happening that in the long run is gonna fuck everybody it's already fucking us up yeah and i
think it's just crazy because i feel like we all have that one friend where it's like where if they
send you something you're like i'm gonna look this up myself no thank you but it feels like
at large because celebrities or public figures um just people give them the
benefit of the doubt if they post something then you're more inclined to believe it and people
weaponize that and so that shit has like ruined our society because people believe essentially like
dummies oh yes um what's this shit called? Idiocracy.
That movie.
Is that the Bill Maher movie?
No. It's a movie about the more
in time that we go, the more dumber do we get.
Yeah, you gotta watch this.
They're watering plants with Gatorade.
What? Yeah, they're watering plants with Gatorade
so all the plants die and the whole shit.
Proving that brands control everything.
Proving that brands control everything in the future.
It's like a dumb fucking intelligent movie.
Who made it?
I have no idea.
But I know Scarface
is in there being a pimp.
Scarface?
Oh, like literally
the rapper Scarface?
Yeah, the rapper Scarface
is in there being a pimp.
His name is
Double Dose.
What was that dude's name?
The white dude.
I can't think, man.
They got the main dude.
From old school. Is he from old school? Yeah,. I can't think, man. The main dude. From old school.
Is he from old school?
Yeah, from old school.
No, no.
The one.
I thought, no, I don't think he's from old school.
Yeah, he's from old school.
Yeah, one million percent.
No, he's from old school.
The guy, Luke Wilson.
There you go.
He's the one?
He's the main guy from old school?
Yeah, from Idiocracy.
Okay.
It's a scripted movie.
Actually, you should watch it because it literally tells
the future and this is what 10 years ago oh no don't tell me i hate when that happens too it's
just like when when the future is predicted and the future is like but it's detrimental
and then it's and then it becomes true just like the don't look up shit don't look up
don't look up i was like man if they hadn't put
celebrities in it then i feel like it would have made more of an impact because yes because
meryl streep and later you get distracted but if it had just been what it was then maybe more
people would have paid attention because it's literally happening i think differently though
i think because it had those celebrities people people were more inclined to watch it.
Because it's a silly movie, in a sense.
So why would they even do this?
They must take it serious, the issue.
But I feel like nobody respects celebrities
and what they have to say.
No, right now, none at all.
Nobody wants to hear what Ja Rule got to say
at a time like this.
You remember, that's not my joke.
Ja Rule, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What is Ja Rule thinking?
What is Ja Rule thinking in a time like this?
Yeah.
And you also caught beef
with Betty Wright.
You did?
Betty Wright.
Jesus.
Betty White.
Betty White.
I did not catch beef
with her specifically,
first of all.
Betty Wright or Betty White.
Why?
Betty Wright is dead.
Yes, and Betty White.
Betty White is...
As well.
She was accepted awards.
She was not.
She was...
And he was on Instagram
because I was
at the Emmys
and my family
was texting me
like yo you
at the Emmys
oh I think
I just lost
or maybe I was
my award was
coming up
and I was
responding to
them and then
Betty White was
on stage but I
was still very
present but you
know I got a lot
of backlash like
you disrespecting
Betty White you
bitch what the
fuck that's Betty
White like pay attention which you know respect fine I was I got a lot of backlash. Like, you disrespecting Betty White, you bitch. What the fuck, that's Betty White.
Like, pay attention.
Which, you know, respect.
Fine.
That was L.
Messiega.
Messiega.
We got to do a segment called Messiega.
I'm sorry.
I like the way that you ask messy questions.
Whenever I watch this, I look for,
you have a gentle way of asking messy questions. So, congratulations. Thank I look for, you have a gentle way
of asking messy questions.
So congratulations.
Thank you.
I'll take that as a compliment.
But you also won
the Peabody Award.
See, but he coming
with the clean question.
Come right back.
Come right back.
That was a vegan question.
Now, I definitely
have never met anybody
who won a Peabody Award.
I don't think so.
That's like... You know what? I'm going to take that. Yeah, thank you.abody Award. I don't think so. That's like.
You know what?
I'm going to take that.
Yeah, thank you.
That's hard.
I didn't know what it was until we got nominated for one.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
And then I was like, this is the most prestigious award out here.
So if you don't have a Peabody, you're not it.
Yeah, that's real.
I just found out.
I just found out.
And this is the most important award ever.
But it was, you know. You got mad awards. We got. And the King of the City. We got the most important award ever. But it was, you know.
You got mad awards.
We got recognitions.
Key to the City, mad awards.
They're not even giving you the key to my block.
Just so you know.
What's your specific block?
Left Rack City.
They don't care about me.
Do you go back?
They care about you, bro.
Don't say that.
Do you drive by?
I go and chill.
I can do whatever.
But they're not giving me shit. The block loves you. But guess what? I go and chill. I can do whatever. But they're not giving me shit.
The plug loves you.
But guess what?
I'm still outside.
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Oh, no.
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I'm talking after the fact.
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will laugh at that one okay what pushed y'all over like what was the what was the interview
where you're like oh i we just talked about this and it was was a DMX. Yeah, I would say DMX. Our first DMX.
We had him right before he died.
But our first DMX interview, he was super vulnerable.
He did a prayer.
It was crazy.
That took us over the top.
Yeah.
I mean, because basically, it's just us just talking.
That's just really what this is.
That's clear.
We worked with each other as a DJ and artist.
We worked with each other.
And then we put it on the mics. But the thing is, like I said, he's really been a real DJ. I as a DJ and artist. We worked with each other, and then we put it on the mic.
But the thing is, like I said, he's really been a real DJ.
I've been a real artist, and we appreciate this.
You know what I'm saying?
I appreciate you sitting down with us because I know you don't have to be here.
No, I appreciate you doing the research.
I know you could be counting your HBO or Netflix money or whatever,
and be chilling.
I know that, so we appreciate it. You I mean and we appreciate it thank you but uh yeah uh yeah uh
and you fanned out the first time you met Rihanna first of all Rihanna is always late. Always. But because she is, you can anticipate her.
Because Rihanna is who she is, you're excited that she has even signed up to, like, show up.
Right.
You know?
And, like, I aspire to that.
Like, when Rihanna shows up, you are grateful that she is there.
Right.
And I just, I have so much respect for her.
She is there. Right. And I just, I have so much respect for her. She is herself.
She is, like, who you also aspire to because she's just, like, she's a clapback queen.
She's a mogul.
She is also, like, an artist.
And she has all of these things.
And, yeah, I fan out.
Who doesn't?
Yeah.
So what was that moment like?
Was it red carpet or something?
No. The first time I met her was because we were supposed to be doing a project together.
And that was my first time meeting her.
I got to pee again.
I'm so sorry.
I'm with you.
I'm taking beers, so let's go.
I'm so sorry, y'all.
God dang.
Bangada.
So, Molly.
Yeah.
Is that based on your real best friend?
That went right into Molly.
Yeah, Molly is based off
Of my real friend
Who I won't name
But I feel like
Yeah
I thought we were talking about
Molly
She ever got mad at you
No like
Molly
No
Not the drug
Not the drug
The character
Even though Molly
Did take Molly at one point
Molly did take Molly
Molly squared
Yeah
She took Molly squared
At the festival
Coachella
Yeah
Yeah No she's based off Of my real best friend Right Did she ever get mad at you Molly Squared, yeah. She took Molly Squared. At the festival? Coachella, yeah. At Coachella?
Yeah.
No, she's based off of my real best friend.
Did she ever get mad at you because Molly a little loose?
Only one time. She's not loose like that, though.
One time.
First of all, no, she's not.
Yeah, okay.
She a little loose.
No, she wasn't loose.
She a little loose.
A little bit.
Was she a lawyer?
She's a lawyer.
Yeah, she wasn't loose.
A little loose Yeah
No she had fun sometimes
She was bouncing
Ring can't call women loose
Because y'all be out here
So like
The double standard is real
But my real friend
They be out there
Yes okay
Who's they?
The other men
You haven't been out there
Yes right
Okay that's right
Continue
But Molly okay
My best friend
She did take Molly at Coachella
Never got offended at
Like The dating life She got offended i'm not even
offended she like checked me like about like oh some family stuff came up where that like actually
paralleled her real life family stuff is your real friend telling you this yeah she was like
bitch you gonna put this on tv and i was like I swear to God we wrote this before
it happened
yeah before it happened
like I didn't know
we didn't use your life for this
and otherwise
she's like open
like yeah bitch
tell this story
tell this
tell me
tell everybody about this lame nigga
or tell me
tell everybody about
like this situation
but for that
I could sense that she was like
you know
like what the fuck
and I was like
I swear to God
I didn't even know
this was happening for you they were already writing it and then you know, like, what the fuck? And I was like, I swear to God, I didn't even know this was happening for you.
They were already writing it, and then you told me it.
But for the most part, she's been very generous about her life.
Right.
Switching up the subject a little bit, because I heard a conversation where your mother basically told you,
are you doing porn?
What?
You were doing porn?
No, I'm not doing porn.
Not that she's doing porn. Insec not doing porn insecure insecure but like basically my
character oh my mom i've discovered even with rap shit like my well rap shit when it premiered
oh she's seen rap shit she was right next to me at the premiere the only fans
my lady walked in the room when i was watching. She thought I was watching porn. I was like, no, this is a show.
I promise you this is a show.
You know what my girl was like?
Yeah, my mom is very like, I didn't know this, but she's like conservative when it comes to sex.
And I was sitting next to her at the premiere of Rap Shit.
First of all for insecure
it was me i'm in it right and like growing up we couldn't watch pg-13 movies if i wasn't
that's in my notes you couldn't watch look i just want to just so you know you did the research
thank you it's in my notes come on well you go all in you do sex scenes and everything insecure
i did which was new for me but like i like, I couldn't watch rated R movies.
I was very, like, controlled.
You couldn't watch rated R movies until you was an adult.
You want me to make sure?
Yeah.
You keep taking my questions now.
You know what I mean?
I just want you to know.
Go ahead.
So, with Insecure, like, I felt like the moment where she stopped and where she texted me,
where she was like, I'm not going to watch because you're basically making porn,
was probably around season two. And she was was like I'm not gonna watch because you're basically making porn was probably around season two and she was like I'm not watching anymore and I like
like hurt my feelings okay or I was like but you're my mom like you're you've been supportive
and and then like you know she saw us like the the second season finale we were all at her house
because I don't have anywhere to watch it I don't have have cable. And I don't think I had the APH.
I don't need the judgment. You're already
in my pocket. But I didn't have
cable and I couldn't watch it live.
Stop.
And so we all went to my mom's house
to watch it. And she was like, well, I'm going upstairs.
I'm not watching this.
And she heard us like as siblings
laughing downstairs. And then she came back
and that's what brought her back to the show. But like the come in my eye episode she was like i'm not watching this
episode anymore i'm not watching this show anymore you're a disgrace and but then we got it back
rap shit she just came to the premiere she was by the grace of hbo god sitting next to me which i
was already like oh i don't want to sit next to me, which I was already like,
ugh, I don't want to sit next to my mom.
But it's not me.
It's not me, but she knows I made it.
So mama love watching OnlyFans.
No.
OnlyFans is pretty ill.
That was legit OnlyFans.
What hurt was she was ready to support me
in my new show.
She sat next to me in like, in the first, like, five, ten minutes.
She's laughing, like.
And then when the OnlyFans team come up, I, like, see her tense up.
And I'm looking at her out the corner of my eye, and she just stops laughing.
And it's, like, jokes after.
So she's not laughing at nothing.
Then the second episode airs.
Have y'all made it to the second episode?
I made it. I watched it. I then the second episode airs if y'all made it to the second episode there's a very explicit facetime virtual sex scene oh yeah wait because i know homie wanted
in the first one yeah so that's what happened yeah he wanted he wanted he wanted phone sex
so i like playfully like sitting next to her while i had a second episode airs i put my
like hand over her eyes and she was like you should have done that a long time ago.
And I was like, damn, like that?
But she was serious.
And then she was just like, I don't understand.
Like, you know, in her mind, she's like,
I did all the right things.
I put parental controls.
I did, you know, I restricted you from seeing things.
Like, there's so many classic black movies
I have not seen because my mom was like,
I don't want you to see this.
That I had to either sneak with my friends or I just never saw. Like Harlem Nights? Like, what you didn't see?
I didn't see Harlem Nights. You never seen Harlem Nights?
I know the big toe, I mean, my
pinky toe shit. The pinky toe, okay. Because of
friends, but, like, Waiting to Exhale, I never
saw because she, like,
was like, you know, I never seen.
Every black woman got a seat waiting to exhale.
That's, like, in, like, the scripturesoard in the xl that's like in like the
scriptures in the scripture i haven't seen it i could go back i know like you know i have friends
that fuck with it but because my mom was like very straight so in her mind she's like where did i go
wrong how about the marlon lawrence movie with um where he was then line then line nah that's like pg i feel like i like netflix there was a period
where the dvd phase i bootlegged all these movies and i bootlegged thin line like i ripped thin line
but i don't think i ever got around to watching it to watch it whoa yeah so that was hurtful she
was not fucking with it and she's very strict so i don't remember how we got there. Let me ask you, this is a super ignorant question.
Love it.
As a woman doing the sex scenes, I mean, I would imagine this, I would ask this to a dude as well.
Is it awkward?
Do you feel like, is it necessary to do those scenes that way, like to be nude and all that?
You're not nude.
You always have protection.
Right.
But for me, is it necessary?
Like, I just love a good sex scene.
I love depicting black people in a beautiful light.
I love sensual scenes.
I love, like, in films, like, some of my favorite films do it right,
where it's just like you're, like, engrossed in the chemistry and the romance
and for me i want to emulate that you want it to be real on screen i want it to feel real on screen
where it's like oh it evokes feelings in you when you've seen boomerang like even though they had
like comedic scenes and like sensual scenes like like that shit is perfect to me and i love
depicting us in that light and so
it's awkward to shoot but it also depends on like your chemistry but it's your choice to do that or
not right well like no one's saying like this is what you have to do like this is like no one's
trying to convince you in other words i think i'm different because i'm on the creator side like so
it's my shit but we're always like super open and we leave the lines
of communication open for the actors that have to be in the show and if anybody's uncomfortable
with anything then we'll we'll adjust right but for the most part i found that people are like
generally down to just like you know show what they got some people look at it as like a resume
i've a couple male actors that i've worked with have been like, oh, yeah, I'm ready.
Like, I'm about to show them.
They really took you down, like, in real life.
Not me.
Not me.
But, like, as characters, they use it as an opportunity to show the world how they get down.
Yeah.
And I think that's smart, too.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's crazy.
She's like, man, I think that's smart, too.
I think it's, you know, why not?
So when is Spider Woman coming out?
That's a good question.
And did you start filming?
Let me, did we start filming?
Yeah.
So you know how it's like the animated,
so I'm doing the voice.
Oh!
Yeah, so I've been doing it.
In my mind you was already like,
I know, I wish.
Soda and booty.
But I'm already grateful.
I've been a Spider Man fan since I was in the third grade.
But you Spider Woman. I'm Spider Woman. That's dope. Y-Man fan since I was in the third grade. But you're Spider-Woman.
I'm Spider-Woman.
That's dope.
Y'all, let's make some noise for that.
And so, y'all filmed?
We have done a lot of the work. They have done most of the animation.
I have one more, well, I don't know if it's one more session.
What's great about those directors is they're just constantly making it better and better.
Right.
So, like, yeah, I've done a couple sessions and stuff like that but the film is
great and they've divided it into two parts so i know that it's like so what is that called doing
voiceovers voice work i guess voice work so so how does this happen they they show you the scene
and no you know what it's crazy in my mind i think about the scene they don't like in
my mind when i think about animation i thought you go to a booth you look at what they've already
drawn and you like match to that and then maybe they change the words in this way like i just go
there and i don't see anything like it's just script and you just have to imagine and then
that's the beauty of direction is they tell you what's happening,
and then you have to emote to that and make it happen.
But I don't know what anything looks like.
They showed me a sketch of what my character looks like.
They'll show you sometimes a character, right.
Yeah, that's it.
Like, a photo, a still drawing, but I haven't seen, like, the action sequences.
I want to do that.
Like, I would love to do that.
You got a good voice.
Thank you.
What do you enjoy more?
Actually directing, creating, or actually getting into someone and working for someone?
Directing, creating.
Directing, creating. There's nothing better than having an idea.
And producing, obviously.
And producing it and watching people that you admire, talented people, bringing that shit to life and making it better.
Even more rap shit.
I wrote the pilot.
Shout out to Sarita and the writers.
Like, once the pilot got picked up, the world expands in a way.
And then once it's cast, it just takes on a life of its own and it makes it real.
And that's what I live for.
Like, just having an idea and other people making it better.
You just said the pilot get picked up, right?
But how we read the HBO deal right
this is outside looking and we don't know your business for real but we read that you assigned
to them for five years so when they say five years ago is that something called like a first right
refusal like you have to go to them and present them what you you want to do and if they don't
want to do it then you are you able to take that to a netflix or take that to a showtime i'm able to take it
first to within the warner properties okay so hbo then warner yeah warner as a whole and warner
would have tvs yeah exactly comedy central tnt all those things they all got a pack they're
gonna shop around there and then i can go elsewhere but they don't they don't want me to
go to nobody's netflix or apple or. Because that's like, it's like gang territory right now.
Everybody's super, the ownership is real.
Especially with the streaming stuff.
Yeah, especially the streaming stuff.
And they're like, you know, they're paying me.
So they're like, no, I want you to star in nobody's Netflix movie.
No, I want you to star in nobody's Apple movie.
So it's like super competitive.
But at the same time, as a creator, I'm like, well, if you're not going to take it, I want
to make sure it's seen, but
I don't really have that option.
Yeah, because they have to actually
turn you down. They have to actually turn me
down, but they've been great partners
so far. They haven't turned anything down.
From the outside looking in, I say stay
with HBO, girl. I love HBO.
Stay with HBO, girl. I can't lie.
And, you know what? It's the quality. They have HBO. HBO girls. I can't lie. And,
and you know what?
It's the quality.
They have great
reputation for quality.
It's the quality.
I kid you not.
that shit looked good yesterday.
I was just watching it
and I'm like,
because I'm watching,
you know,
I'm like,
alright,
rap shit,
this is great.
It's about girls,
you know.
And by the way,
I did not know that
it had the Lauren Hill
type of character.
Ah, yeah, yeah, because the trailer is misleading yeah so i didn't i didn't really catch on until i fully watched it
and i was like wow and i see how they're kind of the same girl just in different worlds
and different totally worlds and but one is looked at as a person that is i want my daughter to
listen to you i think the guy actually checked into the hotel.
Yes.
He said, I want my daughter to listen to you.
She said, oh, how old is your daughter?
He said, oh, I ain't got a daughter.
Can I tell you that's real?
Like, even the show coming out and the trailers, like, dudes were just like, all the things you could promote.
You promoted, sister, please.
Like, why are you promoting these ratchet-ass females?
Why are we presenting black people this way?
And it's like, you haven't even seen it.
And why are you policing, like, the type of women that I can, like, these are my friends, these are the people.
But that's the real shit.
And so, like, I was like, these people don't even know that they're in the show.
Right.
And then to show that part, to show that, all right, this is one guy who says, yeah, I want my daughter to be like, and she asks him, obviously,
and he says, no, I don't have a daughter.
And then you got the other who is like,
almost like, I don't want to say man's fantasy,
but it's kind of like what men just want to see real fast.
They just want to see,
they don't really want to really take you on dates
like most narcissist men.
Just was like, all right, cool,
let me just get straight to the point.
And to show that to show that uh seesaw of two different sides i don't think i've ever seen that in any cinema i was really impressed not because i was interviewing you the next the next
day but i was like damn she killed this first of all i'm just impressed that y'all watched the shit
oh you got a lot to do first of of all, it's about our city.
I mean, for me, I'm from Miami.
So, like, to see the streets in there was hella dope.
And was it ever at all inspired at all by City Girls at all?
So, what happened was when I was trying to figure out the location that I wanted to set this in,
I thought about different places.
So, I was like, ooh, do I want to do it in Houston?
If I do it in Houston,
I will hit up Make the Sign.
It was basically like
who reps their city the most.
And then I was thinking about
where I wanted to be.
In Miami,
I've had more experiences there.
I love Miami.
And we was open
during the pandemic too.
And we was what?
We was super open.
Yeah, we was open.
But this was like
during quarantine
when everybody was locked up.
We was loose out here.
Y'all don't have a quarantine
even in March?
Our quarantine was like...
We had two months.
Two months.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, we had six weeks quarantine.
So that's when I wrote it.
It was during that
six-week quarantine.
Oh, this is when you filmed it.
Okay.
No, no.
When I wrote it,
I was like,
I'm tired of being in LA.
I'm quarantined.
Where do I want to be?
And there was a pleasant surprise.
And then everybody,
every music show
is that there's...
Nothing shut down in Atlanta.
Oh, that part?
Really?
They never did a quarantine?
They didn't quarantine at all.
They never did a quarantine.
There was no quarantine in Atlanta.
No, Atlanta was...
They were worse than Miami?
Yeah, Atlanta was nothing.
I didn't know that.
There was no shutting down in Atlanta.
She was open without a mask.
I promise you.
Well, that's what was refreshing
about shooting out here.
It was like, you know...
Everyone had to get tested.
Well, no.
It was just open. No, we were super loose. To be on set, It was like, you know. Everyone had to get tested. Well, no. It was like, it was just open.
No, we were super loose.
Like, to be, like, on set, we were very, very.
I was trying to represent for the city.
No, in the filming part, we had to wear a mask.
But, like, out in the streets, when it was like, you're done for the day, I just got to be free.
And, you know, it was dangerous.
But we didn't all get COVID until we wrapped, which was a blessing.
How did you research the areas to film in?
Not being from Miami.
From my experience, like the office, I had been to multiple times.
I love the office.
It's not my cup of tea.
Because it's not elegant enough?
Like you have a specific strip club experience that you want?
We're talking about strip clubs.
When I went there, they were smoking crack.
I'm not into that.
Yeah, they were smoking dirties that day.
Well, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
That was in my experience.
That can happen anywhere.
In Miami, it can happen anywhere.
In Miami, it can happen anywhere.
That is the truth.
That's absolutely true.
Well, I had been to the office multiple times, and that was my experience.
And then just certain other parts of Miami.
And I just always have a good-ass time.
Atlanta, the music scene, there's literally a show called Atlanta that's set there.
Houston, we already had a show that was set in that world, in the Houston world.
And I was just like, what's new for us?
And so Miami just made the most sense for me. And the way you showed Miami, the Haitian aspect.
My homie's right here.
I call him my little brother, Winnick.
His grandfather is one of the founders of Little Haiti.
What?
Yeah, he's here.
He's here right now.
And it's dope to see.
And his uncle's in an HBO documentary, the one about the journalist.
I don't know if you've seen that documentary.
It's on HBO now.
It's on HBO, right, Winnick?
Whatever.
But, so, yeah, they're one of the fountains.
To see Little Haiti, to see Wynwood, to see Overtown, like, to see these parts that are
untapped in Miami, which is really the real Miami, not just South Beach.
That's real.
It's refreshing.
And I haven't seen more.
I'm sure you're going to show more.
For sure.
And that comes from the consultants.
Like, you know, I'm from L.A.
Our showrunner, Sarita, is from L is from LA but we got writers like Kid Fury and
another who's phenomenal and another writer filmmaker named Edison Jean who's Haitian
and from Miami and he's like actively here and he's out in these streets and he was really our
one of our main consultants to make sure nobody could look at it and be like this ain't this is not Miami so
that was a blessing and Pretty V you got Pretty V on there so first of all shout out to Pretty V
I didn't know she was from Miami Sean Lemaine saw our announcement or saw my announcement that my
show got picked up in Miami and he was like look if you don't want to show in Miami you know Pretty
V's from Miami I had been following her peripherally but I didn't know and thought she was hilarious but I didn't know she was from Miami so he had gotten
in my DMs and was just like if you have a show like she should be in I was like what and so then
it was hard to get in contact with her because she was doing Wild N' Out she's popping and he was
very instrumental in making sure that she could be a part of the show. And throughout, like, without reps and stuff like that,
because it was hard, and I was like, well, I was about to give up.
Like, she can't do it.
And then he was great.
But she's so fucking funny.
But this is a different role for her.
Right.
And she killed it.
And then Chameleon, how did you discover her?
How did you, prior to you even having her audition?
I didn't know about her.
That was, that came from.
You didn't see her on Love & Hip Hop or nothing?
I didn't watch Love & Hip Hop Miami.
I was a big fan of Love & Hip Hop, the original New York, and then Atlanta with Jocelyn, who I love.
I'm on that same version of Love & Hip Hop Miami.
You're in the New York or you're in Miami?
No, I'm on Love & Hip Hop Miami.
I never saw that one, I'm sorry.
So you didn't see it?
Thank you.
Like, was your storyline good?
I saw all your shit, literally. It's not like controversy? I'm going to watch it. Thank you. Like, was your storyline good? I saw all your shit.
Literally.
It's not like controversy.
I'm going to watch it now
and make it a point.
Even to this day,
even though Cass and Camelia
have not seen
Loving Him in Miami,
I didn't know that it was...
Wow.
I don't know if the Miami scene was...
All right, so now I'm blown away
because now I'm thinking
you saw her
and said,
I see how it went to you.
And if I saw her on that,
I probably would have been like,
I don't want to cast her
because I wanted people
to just experience like a character and be lost in it.
You know how you like will watch something.
So what's the other star, the laureate?
Ida.
How did you get her?
She auditioned regularly.
And we saw her audition, the both of us, me and Sarita.
And we were like, oh, she's great.
But we were like trying to find who Shauna was and then she interviewed to be a writer in the writer's room
because she's a writer primarily and uh Sarita hit me up like yo remember that girl that we
liked that audition she uh she like interviewed to be a writer and I actually really like her and I
was like well wait because that would be weird
if we like her as an actress and she's in the writer's room like I don't want to overwhelm her
that could be a lot yeah that part too I was like what if she's gonna be and so I met her as a
writer and I was like oh she's clearly fit to write this show she just fits it and then while
she was in the writer's room while we were writing we were still looking for shauna's but we're still keeping her in the back of the mind and then it came down to chemistry
auditions and we had like i want to say four or five shauna's four or five mias we like put them
all together to audition and the two of them um and then they were phenomenal and it was like we
got to make this decision to hire this writer and hire this actress
basically and that was it damn that's this is dope process it was a dope process it seems like
a difficult process as well it was eliminate people it was so hard to eliminate people because
some people are you know uh she said it so i can say it but like if y'all watch insecurity i remember
tasha who was like law Lawrence's love interest the famous back
shots heard around the world we brought
her into audition cause I
what is his eyes?
his wide eyes
the way you just said it it was crazy
she's such an
incredible actress I strongly believe
she could play of course anything
and we brought her in
to audition for both for Mia and
Shauna.
And she was great in both.
But it came down to, like, authenticity.
And we still found a role for her.
But, like, you know, that was heartbreaking for her.
She came in, she killed that shit, funny as fuck.
And, you know, I'm sure thought, like,
they brought me in, I'm going to get it.
And that just wasn't the case for that.
But, like, when someone's so talented talented you find a way to work with them and
that's when it that's what happens when it comes to her Dominique is incredible
well when you bring in people you know it does that ever become personal yeah
I'm sure she was like well bitch why did you bring me in if you wasn't gonna pick
me but she's really gracious so she never said that to my face She's professional She's professional
Right
You ever had to fire a friend?
Fire a friend?
Yeah
Like, you know
I just fired my friend
Sonny D
Yeah, Sonny D
He's fired
He's fired
The one that just tripped
Yeah, he's fired
But we'll hire him tomorrow
Oh, okay
So there's like an ongoing
If I had that, I'd do it
But like a friend friend
I don't think I've ever
Had to fire that
And I don't Okay I don't wish that on anybody.
That's hard.
Have y'all, like, in real life?
No, today is happening.
You're really going to let him go today.
We got to tell him about himself.
We got to tell him about himself.
But y'all, like, y'all gave him the alcohol.
No, no, he gave himself the alcohol.
Let's just be clear.
Gave yourself the alcohol.
I don't even know how he got it. He smuggled it in here.
No, no, no.
What was the—
We don't have alcohol here, but here—
You have to stay at a certain level. You have to stay at a certain level.
Was it cross-fadingness? Like, was he smoking?
Cross-fadingness. That's—no, no, he don't smoke.
No, he don't smoke.
So that was just all alcohol. He didn't eat. Y'all didn't feed him.
I'm just going to determine to blame him.
No, no, no. This is a renegade show. We don't have hair makeup.
I came out with a—
We didn't do this.
We don't have hair makeup. We don't have fools. This is abnormal. We don have fools, we usually don't have toilet paper.
I swear to God.
We tell people don't do this at home.
You should have seen the first, because we didn't know because we like a guys club, so
we didn't know.
You should have seen the first females who came to see us.
They were like, y'all are disgusting.
In what way?
We had to just get it together.
Oh, like in this.
Oh, like this.
It was another place that we had. We had eight and nine. Oh, eight and nine was disgusting. Our bathroom way? We had to just get it together. Oh, like in there. Oh, like the-
It was another place that we had.
We had eight and nine.
Oh, eight and nine was disgusting.
Oh, eight and nine.
Our bathroom there was terrible.
The bathroom there.
This bathroom was terrible.
The females were coming back and be like, what is wrong with you?
One out of ten is going to be good.
You got to realize we're not sitting down.
So we're standing up.
That's true.
So we're not realizing how crazy it is.
Disgusting.
And then I think the females came came in my wife came and said
y'all gotta step it up and then that's when we started to notice yo yo we started to order toilet paper
we started ordering regular shit that we should have had. We got potpourri, Lysol, you know.
But you also got downgraded in your own coffee shop.
At one point, they just made you call the names.
Is this true?
They didn't want you to make the coffee.
They didn't want you to hand out the coffee.
I'm sorry for the footage.
I'm sorry.
I love you, but I can't stand you. I'm sorry. Yes, I'm part owner punch you the ass out of the coffee. What? I saw the footage. I'm sorry. I love you, but I can't stay.
I saw the coffee.
I'm sorry.
Yes, I'm part owner in a coffee shop.
I thought it would be really great to, in promotion, be a barista because I've always
wanted to do that and they were open to it.
You actually were a barista?
A barista.
At the coffee shop, just like literally a couple weeks later.
At her coffee shop.
She owns it.
So you did the thing thing?
So I was supposed to.
They were supposed to train me to do thing? So I was supposed to.
They were supposed to train me to do that, but I was late for my shift.
For your training or for the shift?
For your own show.
They were going to do a shift.
Yes, I was late.
They were going to train me to do the barista things right before.
It was supposed to be like a 10, 15-minute training.
I was 10, 15 minutes late.
So they were like, we'll just have you work the register.
Right.
And the register is hard.
Have you seen,
like it's a lot of buttons.
No, it's not even like
it's like an iPad.
You got to know
everything in like this.
It opens,
but if not,
if you don't do it,
it doesn't.
It was a lot of mechanics.
And so it was a long line.
Shout out to everybody
who came out to,
you know,
have me serve them and i was
holding up the line so that's when they were like you know what you should just call the names and
then you got fired i didn't get fired because i was still there there was two things i think you
did the the register and you did one more thing and then they were just like we think you should
just call the name i didn't even get to the one more thing you didn't get to what they just
no they didn't even let me
make drinks. I was supposed to have a pre-made drink
because they didn't train me.
It's their fault.
She's the owner.
That's what I'm saying. It's their fault.
I'm never going to blame the staff. They did a great job.
They didn't train you. It's their fault.
They didn't actually train me, but I was late.
If I had been on time, everything would have gone well.
And this is Englewood?
This is Englewood. There's three locations, but it was at the Inglewood location okay y'all should come
through when are y'all gonna come to LA we go all the time we got family in LA we went to see Snoop
in Inglewood my family's in Downey oh Downey well I mean my my grandparents they got relocated after
the freeway my family's in Downey right now and Inlewood that's that's like they they be building the community up there's a lot going on there yeah wait did y'all say y'all came to la to interview
snoop yeah it was right by the airport yeah what was that compound oh the sound count the audio
the death row compound he got death row oh no that's separate oh yeah but it's inglewood it
was the inglewood oh it is so the map has to be there. Isn't that the audio?
The 59, 99?
Yeah, okay, that's dope.
Yeah, same thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And y'all went to... See, y'all do house calls for these interviews.
Yes, sometimes.
Because I went to Chris Brown's house.
Well, once in a blue moon.
So why y'all couldn't come to my house?
Because we didn't get that invite.
I mean, you didn't invite us to go.
We definitely went to check.
You know what?
You should do the yacht party with us there.
Let's go.
Then that takes over from the party.
We smoked a lot of marijuana.
What do you mean?
We had to the party.
What are you talking about?
But I would rather have your presence as opposed to like,
ho, who are y'all interviewing?
No, we just don't have to talk on the mic.
We just drink.
I'm not mad at that.
Let me ask you something.
Are you enjoying it?
I'm having a good-ass time.
You better.
You didn't even finish your sentence, but I was, yeah, I'm having a good-ass time. you didn't even finish that sentence but I was
yeah
I'm having a good ass time
because you know
you know why
I've been
I've been in this game
22 to 25 years
right
and I've seen
so many people
hit the top
and not enjoy it
not realize
that they're
at the very very top
and
it's not like
you'll ever drop but
this might be it or it might be even more but even while you're here they sometimes they don't
they don't enjoy it like that it was an exception when i heard her today saying that she wanted to
keep going but she didn't recognize where she was at. I was like, all right, cool. Lation. So, like, to me,
you're at the top of the food chain.
I respect it.
I honor it.
I love it.
We love it.
You should see how we talk about you
behind your back.
Thank you.
That's why we're talking about you
like this in your face
because this is a milestone
that we're proud of.
And I'm asking you, are you enjoying it?
Now I'm definitely enjoying it because I have a break.
I definitely don't think I'm at the top in any way, but I enjoy every step of the way.
I'm appreciative.
I'm grateful.
Where I was is very close by to me.
And I'm just happy.
And I love just the people that i've been meeting along
the way it's fun you know like even can i be debbie downer yeah you're married right yeah
recently you plan on having children oh you are debbie downer no no no it's good it's good
i got two young children and i love it. But it changes everything.
I know.
That's my main existential crisis right now.
Because that's like a real thing.
It feels like it's an all or nothing situation.
Stop thinking about that.
So I don't know.
I don't know.
Usually when people say, could I be Debbie Downer?
They're like, so, you know.
Well, Debbie Downer is the career part because it's not a downer.
Yeah, no.
Because having children is an amazing thing.
You're lying.
No, I'm not lying.
I swear to God.
I promise you.
Look, look, look.
I ain't going to lie.
Cardi B balanced it very well.
No, I promise you.
Cardi B had like three children on us.
Everybody does it differently.
But even when Cardi B was pregnant, people were like, oh, the bitch done ruined her career.
And it's not true.
But that's like how I think about it.
But look at Nick.
Nick out here pregnant everybody.
Nick is a man.
Men are different.
So I will never take like pregnancy.
Everybody is different when they have children.
Like you guys are active fathers.
Yes.
And we get pregnant when y'all get pregnant.
We get pregnant too.
No, it's not the same.
Because you're not like, you can still hold.
What's the oldest one? Two and four. Oh, yeah, for sure. I'm pregnant too. No, it's not the same. Because you're not like, you can still hold. What's the oldest one?
Two and four.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
I'm in the trenches.
But it's different.
Like, it's not going to stop you because you're like, I don't have to stay home and breastfeed.
I don't have to stay home and do this.
But I got to be home.
With her?
With my kids.
Oh, with the kids.
I got to be there with them.
That's important to me.
And that's still an active choice, but you have a choice.
I feel like women don't have the choice in that way.
But I think the more, obviously, money you have, then there's an opportunity to make it work, but it's still Sarah Gates. It's to change your life
So the question you you want to be pregnant
Right now, but I'm still thinking about it. I gave a deadline to myself
figure it out and obviously it matters like
You know what my my partner slash husband thinks.
So, I don't know. It's the whole thing.
He's a legend. Wherever he is, wherever he at.
Whoever he is.
We ain't going to reveal shit.
Even if we knew because we don't know.
But if we know, we ain't going to show.
Hello.
You know what I mean?
Because your privacy is your privacy.
We're taking a shot at you. We're taking a shot to your man.
We're taking a shot to your man.
No.
Yes, we're taking a shot.
See, you made fun of me when I did that.
We're taking a shot to your man.
It's very easy to do.
What's his name again?
Shut up.
His name is Chunchy.
I'm fucking with you.
I'm fucking with you.
I'm fucking with you.
You know I know you, Judy.
Yo.
Man, I'm so proud.
I'm so proud. I'm so proud.
I'm so happy that you stopped.
I'm happy that y'all had me, for real.
You know I met you once.
On the weekend.
It was on the weekend.
What?
You dissed me and bigged me up at the same time.
What?
Me?
I'm about to say the hotel, but I won't say the hotel.
Tell me the hotel right now, so I remember. It's in South Beach, but I don't want to say the hotel. Cut it out. Because I still go to the hotel, but I won't say the hotel. Tell me the hotel right now so I remember.
It's in South Beach, but I don't want to say the hotel just in case.
Cut it out.
Because I still go to the hotel, too.
So I'm with my son.
The W?
Damn.
Okay.
Okay, yes.
All right, I'm with my son.
This is like, I think it's the third season.
You on fire.
Oh, my God, you on fire.
I'm downstairs.
I see you at the hotel.
I say to my son, because I don't want to be the groupie,
so I blame it on my son.
I'm like, Noah, you a fan of Insecure?
He's like, homegirl right there,
because he's seen us watching the shows.
He's like, oh, right there?
I'm like, all right, cool.
My son gets down with the program immediately.
He knows his, he knows that song.
He knows the assignment.
We walk over to you, I was like,
I said, I'm a fan, could I have a picture?
You said, yeah, of course, but last time I seen you,
you was fat, you gotta make up your mind.
Not enough time.
Not enough time.
Not enough time.
Not enough time.
I swear to God.
I swear to God.
Never said that.
Let me tell you how you said it.
Let me tell you, this is the reason why it was so.
Wait, wait, how did she say it,
but she didn't say it like that?
She said it like she was all insecure.
She was like, look, look, you need to get your hands. No. She was like, you need this is the reason why. How did she say it? She didn't say it like that. She said it like she was insecure.
She was like, you need to get your hands off me.
She was like, you need to make up your mind.
Last time you was fat.
No, you was just mad in shape and I wasn't accustomed to that.
You were actually, you were big in a month.
Yes.
I said she did.
You look great.
Yes, yes, thank God.
Thank you guys for that.
And by the way, we can pull up that picture right now.
We can pull up that picture right now.
Holy shit, yo.
But that's when I knew.
I was like, yo, she is the character.
But not the character, but is the character.
That's fair.
And I think that's what makes it easy for you to write is these real life experiences.
For sure that I feel like I have not changed in that way.
Like I've gotten a little bit better about hiding it, but I just, you know, I say the wrong things sometimes.
But I feel like I for sure bigged you up.
Do you think you're still awkward?
A hundred percent, yeah.
Okay, what is awkward?
What's the definition of awkward to you?
When you are just inept in social situations where you will just say that wrong thing or just feel uncomfortable like i feel like sometimes i'm just never fully comfortable in my own skin like i'm a confident
person but like i'm just worried that i'm gonna make the situation turn weird
you're confident but you're not confident that they're confident in your confidence oh yeah
thank you thank you for that that's it that's pretty much it and i think as an awkward person
you're like always thinking about how people are viewing you right it's the perception yes and then
thinking about that you overthink and you're like oh they think that i'm fucking they're thinking
i'm fucking up right you're like god damn they think this you're not worried necessarily because
we all think like that there's no way you're awkward i don't think you've ever had no one who's ever had a fight and said, I'm just going to win this fight.
It's everyone.
There's so many people that are like, oh, I'm about to kill this shit.
I'm about to eviscerate.
That's true.
That's true.
No, but it's something.
Most people, we all get them butterflies.
Like, I've performed for 20 years, and I still, before I get on that stage.
But that's like, people still.
To me, that's awkward.
That's not awkward. That's not awkward.
That's like nerves.
Nerves.
Have you ever like gone into a conversation like
like for have you ever hesitated?
This is a scenario.
You go to a party.
You don't know nobody.
Is there any party where it's like
oh they're going to be looking at me like
I don't know nobody.
Or are you just like oh let me go.
It's in the moment second guessing.
All the time.
It's in the moment second guessing.
All the time. But all the time but then
do you still just go up to a group of people and start talking like will you ever go to a party by
yourself people who go to party by parties by themselves don't have an awkward bone in their
body or they are awkward as fuck they're awkward because they're like innately awkward yes and
that's great i can't even that's you know if you can't even Imagine anything You're not
No
Yeah I'm awkward
No
But alcohol helps me
That part
Alcohol helps me too
Alcohol is the crutch
For all of that shit
It is
It's like underrated
In that way
Crutch
It's fine
Crutch
Yeah crutch
It's not like the solution
And at one point
I felt like I had
Low self esteem
When
What point
Getting to who I am.
Pre, pre like,
and then when you got there,
you were like,
oh, I'm that man.
I still,
it still exists in me though.
It's still a part of me
and I have to talk to myself.
And because I'm,
I'm my number one fan.
Like, I be gassing myself up.
Like, you know how you be
in the mirror rhyming?
Like, yo, I'm that bitch.
Like, I do that every day.
I don't even need a mirror though.
Is there anybody
that can like get you down? Like, is there anybody in your to admit, like, I do that every day. I don't even need a mirror, though. Is there anybody that can, like, get you down?
Like, is there anybody in your life right now, especially age?
I feel like the older you get, you're just like, I'm not phased.
But is there anything where you're, like, self-conscious?
Is there anybody where you're like, oh, they got to me, this particular.
Like, for me, teenagers are scary.
If I walk past teenagers.
When kids tell you something well like teenagers just because
i remember what it was like to be a teenager and teenagers have a way of seeing through you am i
reading you and eviscerating you and i'm like if i see teenagers i'll walk across the street because
they just get off on like clowning i'm thinking little kids like my daughter four years old she's
four years old but that's like pure no you got no hair i said listen
my hair at night because that's what my grandfather told me
okay daddy it's not my fault you said that mice eat you that's what my grandfather told me it's
fire well about his hair he's like mice eat his hair at That's what my grandfather told me. That is fire. Well, about his hair. He's like, mice eat his hair at night, and he feeds mice.
And that's nasty, but I thought, wow, he's helping these mice.
He's helping these mice by feeding them.
So I told my daughter the same thing.
That is amazing.
It's not amazing.
It's amazing.
That is ridiculous.
That is a real story.
I would have never, ever.
I had nothing better to tell my daughter.
But y'all, like, they be saying men get embarrassed, like, super easy.
That's the worst fear.
Y'all don't have, like, an insecurity, embarrassment.
Everybody does.
No, everyone has that.
But y'all don't like naming it.
Yeah, no.
I told you my fear.
What's y'all's?
What was your fear again?
Teenagers.
Teenagers, okay.
I just told you kids.
Little kids, they going to say some shit.
I guess I'm just not accepting that because kids just talk shit and you know that it's not from a malicious face.
They're looking at you at face value.
They're going to say some shit.
And you'll be like, God damn it.
But it's not malicious.
No, but it's face value.
That's the problem.
It's not malicious.
It's purely like innocent.
You're not even trying to be loose.
You got a belly.
You got this weird thing on your face right there.
Yeah, it's a mole.
That's fair.
It's a mole.
What the fuck?
Yeah, that's fair.
I know what my fear is.
People want skateboards with dirty nails.
Oh, come on, man.
That's ridiculous, man.
First of all, how do you identify that person?
Yeah, that's fair.
You can't see dirty nails from all the way.
When they skateboarding.
Okay.
What do you?
What is?
Take each his own.
How you going to judge me?
How do you see the skateboarder?
I thought this was me in the judge-free zone.
No, it's not in the judge-free zone.
No, you're right.
We have to vet you.
Please.
I thought we in no judgment zone, guys.
No, I just fuck with y'all.
But yeah, I don't like skateboarders with dirty nails.
That's like white skateboarders, black skateboarders.
But they don't scare you.
Okay, oh, we scared.
She's saying things that scare you that someone's going to be talking shit to you.
Things that give you butterflies and make your heart flutter.
Oh, that's very easy.
Who?
Birds.
Pigeons.
Because birds did the shit out of him all the time.
Geese.
You ever seen a geese cross the street?
No, I don't.
I've never encountered a geese. Geese be like this what you want me when you see geese just out about to fly
Why are they crossing the street is it geese as a bunch of them or gooses one of them? I like
They should go
Geese we should call up Drake
Give us back our pages. We'll call up Drake and tell us, give us back our pigeons.
We'll give you back your geese.
Let's make an even trade because I'd rather pigeons than geese.
Pigeons?
We not real.
Because they took some of our pigeons.
The geese took your pigeons?
Y'all ain't never heard of this?
Our pigeons fly north.
No, man.
And geese fly where?
For the winter.
And then they fly south for the summer.
No, man, that's not true.
That's birds in general.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Oh, wow.
They're all birds.
So some of our birds go to Canada and get lost.
It's not some.
It's all.
This is scientific shit I'm breaking down for y'all.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to Google this.
This is all talking about misinformation.
Yeah, we are misinformation.
And I'm going to Google this after that.
Drink jazz called drunk facts.
It's not misinformation.
It's called drunk facts.
Don't get your information from DrinkJazz by the way
So what's next?
What's next?
I want to create a movie
Like I said I've only made two television shows
Have you seen it's real though?
I saw the clip
I'm so sorry
I already respect it
First of all
You're being too aggressive.
Sorry, sorry.
It's my plug.
I'm a station.
I'm a station right now.
Yeah, you got to calm down.
Go ahead.
Can we take a shot for that?
Let's take a shot for that.
Let's take a shot for that.
Oh, shit.
I'm going to do this.
Okay, you do.
Okay, all right.
I'll switch up with you.
That's all I have.
I'll switch up with you.
Okay, boom.
I got both.
I got both.
I'm double pissing.
I'm going to fuck around and go piss again.
I'm crazy like that.
Right after this. Okay, but what's next? I'm going to fuck around and go piss again. I'm crazy like that. Right after this.
Okay, but what's next?
I really want to build a studio in South LA.
Like, I want a studio.
Like, what Tyler Perry has done.
Oh, you wanted a Tyler Perry route.
Yeah, but in fairness to me, I was thinking about it before, but then seeing him executed
on a different level was just like, wow.
Did you go to the opening when they went?
No, I had something to do
unfortunately i had an obligation i wanted to go so badly and i like stalked the premiere the
pictures all that and i'm just so proud of it it was black excellence and he did that and like the
fact that he has a studio where like marvel and all the biggest companies in the world have to
like license or like rent his shit is.
That's dope.
Incredible.
And it's like beautiful.
When I was shooting a movie called Little out there, like in Atlanta, he had just opened it.
Oh, with the little girl.
Yeah.
When I say Martin, he was the legend.
Like he came to set, invited us multiple times.
And that's what prevented me.
Like when I was out there, I was shooting that and I was like, I would love to go.
But he's just, he's the real genuine person and I respect it but to
build that same studio in South LA that's about that we don't have that
much land yeah but I still want the space you know LA is LA like that is
so you can do it in LA though you could do it outside of it like on it's gonna
be in South California like I like insecure our last season we shot it in
like Pacoima which is like 45 minutes away from L.A.
And I just want South L.A. on the map because so many people shoot there and I just want a place.
And that's like it.
Can you say so many people will film there?
Because when you say it's South L.A. and so many people will shoot, it's a different type of shooting to be thinking about.
It's a different.
It's on, like, location as opposed to, like, on a stage.
And I want to build stages.
And, you know know that takes how about multiple locations for your that part so that's what we're working on actively
but that's what's next for me is just figuring that out and then it's just you know the economics
but uh now you got this thank you thank you and then it's i mean i don't need to tell you i'm
just saying no i know i just know you got this. Thank you. We all know you got this.
We all know you got this.
We are proud as shit as you.
Thank you.
So that's the next step.
That's the next step.
And then, of course, just continue to create.
You want that full-fledged feature movie.
I do.
I want to make our mark on the film industry.
The way that Jordan Peele was able to like shake the game up would get out um i want to figure out like what our market is as a ray on on the film what what what is your
ideal movie your first feature i just love i love thrillers i'm not like on the horror side like he
is in that way but i love things that just make you tense like give me an example of a thriller
i mean i just i talked about this, but I just rewatched.
Have y'all seen The Talented Mr. Ripley?
I just skipped over that.
I just looked at it on Netflix.
It popped up, and I said, nope.
With Matt Damon?
And I went to something else.
Should I have watched this?
I'm sorry.
I would hope that we make a movie that you don't want to skip over.
I mean, I looked at Matt Damon. I looked at the title. I would hope that we make a movie that you don't want to skip over. I mean,
I looked at Matt Damon,
I looked at the title,
I said,
not for me.
And I went to something else.
I'm sorry.
Now that I know.
I love any form of thriller
that makes you tense.
That's one example,
but there's like,
even the,
that's a phenomenal example.
You were on the edge
of your seat in that.
It's a simple concept,
but I just love that, especially when black people are involved. You know, like edge of your seat in that. It's a simple concept, but I just love that
especially when black people are involved.
As people of color, we
react to things
differently.
Lovebirds is almost a thriller.
Kind of, but it was more comedic.
Driller.
Driller?
Like drill?
Driller comedy.
What's the pronunciation? Driller? Driller? What's more? Like drill? Driller. Comedy.
What's the pronunciation?
Driller.
Driller.
Oh, my God.
The driller.
The driller.
The driller.
The driller.
The driller.
Nah.
Drill.
Comedy.
Driller.
You got to put that in a verse or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know I make it work, so don't worry.
I'll write it out.
I'll work it out for you.
I'll holler. I'll holler.
I'll holler.
But that's like ideal,
you know,
and I just want to make things
that people have conversations about.
Like I said,
like I love water cooler
kind of conversations.
I love the things
that make us talk
as people
that get us excited
and so that's the kind of things
that I want to make
and that doesn't have
to be a thriller.
That can just be genre,
but I'm figuring it out.
Like you ever driven, like, you know, and maybe this is a Debbie the Downer.
Like, you know, all the things that's going on with our people.
And, you know, you're making cinema.
You're making for people to enjoy themselves.
But we're constantly faced with the George Floyds.
We're constantly faced.
Is there ever, like, a pressure to put that in there?
No.
Because on one hand, if you put it in there,
you're kind of making people feel one way.
But if you don't put it, as a black person,
sometimes they judge you.
Is that something you go through?
Not at all.
Because it's like literally existing in real life.
And black people know what it is. We know what it is. So like for me, it's just literally existing in real life right and black people know what it is we
know what it is so like for me it's just like whenever i see that i'm like are you making this
so white people pay attention which you know i understand to some extent where it's just like oh
if you put it in entertainment maybe the people who have the power will understand and humanize us
but for me it's just like,
I really think about my friends when I'm making stuff.
I think about my family when I'm making stuff.
So it's never like I want, you know,
white people to see us and, you know,
it's just, it's real already.
So I don't want to make movies about it. Like, I don't want to make entertainment about it
and make money off that when it's just
a very real thing that nobody's doing
anything about. So that doesn't
really appeal to me.
For me, I just like to make shit that
makes me laugh, makes me feel
things that's
right now in this particular era of fun.
And
that just resonates with me. But I never
feel an obligation to do certain things
unless it's an obligation personally where I'm like,
damn, I miss seeing this on TV.
Like on a very superficial level, I miss erotic thrillers.
Like I miss, I love the indecent proposals of the world,
the basic instincts, all those things.
Like there's a genre and that hasn't really fully existed
in an elite way.
You got a freaky side to you.
I see this right now.
I see this right now where she's coming from.
A little bit, but, like, I just, I don't know.
I just like that for us.
Right.
Man, that's crazy.
You know what we need to bring back?
What?
The Jeffersons.
Listen, we need a 2020.
How did y'all become friends?
Because did you just, did he, did you, were you just Because did you just appeal to the shit that he would throw out there?
No, man.
Relax.
We knew each other before that part.
But you did.
You really did.
I really did.
I really did.
I really did.
No, I really did.
But I'm a DJ from Miami, and I was the guy that promoted his music.
And I'm going to take a piss.
I don't like this black question right now.
You want to go too?
No, I'm actually okay now.
I feel good.
You made me restore my confidence.
Okay, cool.
I understand that Jeff is like...
Would you like some more Prosecco?
No, I'm twisted.
You're twisted?
There's no way.
You're good.
Just one more.
This is also not Prosecco.
This is champagne technically.
This is here.
No, you're going to put it in your elegant glass.
Oh, thank you.
Patti LaBelle told us that.
Do they pay y'all for it?
Um, yeah, we'll...
I know Ciroc got to, but...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we very cool. We very cool.
So they just give it to y'all for free?
No, we very cool.
We very cool.
But I don't know them to do, like, brand sponsorships,
so they do...
Because we very cool. You know what I mean them to do, like, brand sponsorships. Because we very cool.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
Come on.
We very cool.
And guess what?
You know what?
If you're going to drink champagne, drink black champagne, the best champagne.
I'm not mad at that at all.
Did they start this?
We rooting for everybody black.
You remember that?
All day.
We rooting for everybody black.
Look at that.
God damn it.
Yeah, that's true. God damn it. Everybody, everybody here. Look at that. All day. We were rooting for everybody. Look at that. God damn it. Yeah, that's true.
God damn it.
Everybody, everybody here.
Look at that.
Ha ha.
Is Duse?
Who's Duse?
Yeah, Duse is also owned by the homie.
Duse is just, oh, that's like.
Yes, you don't have to have to deal with that.
But is Duse the same as Ace of Spades?
Like, it's all under one umbrella company?
No, but it's all under one guy.
It's not under one umbrella.
That umbrella's over there, then that umbrella's over there.
So D.C. is a specific guy, but it's not a company.
Yeah, it's the same guy.
And Jay-Z invests.
Yeah, it's the same guy.
Jay-Z owns them both.
The same.
Yeah, we support.
This is why we support Japanese deli owners.
But when y'all came up with the show, did they approach you?
Or did you say, hey, we got this show.
It's called Team Champ.
I'm a team player.
We was in the locker room together. So Diddy,
Jay-Z was all like,
we'll give you money. We don't even
care about the competition.
Hey, no money. And then the Japanese
would beat you too.
They hollered and they said,
do you know? They both threatened me
the same language. You want me to tell you
the threat? Yes. Let's be clear.
Jay-Z said, do you know Mr.
Because I said on the show one day, I was like, I'll never drink more wet again because I don't know Mr. Moet.
So then the show kept getting successful, successful, successful, successful.
I don't know why he just took my bottle.
Okay.
Shit got weird.
See what I'm saying?
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
So, and then one day, it happened, and Jay hit me and was like,
Ace of Spades ran out.
This is during the pandemic.
Ace of Spades ran out.
There's no more Ace of Spades.
So we just being fast and getting some more.
Boy, I thought this man
would never see this show.
And boy, did he send me a clip
and said,
I thought you said
you didn't know Mr. Moet.
And I was like, I'm sorry.
Like, you know,
I don't argue with Jay-Z.
I'm just being honest with y'all.
I just say, I just say,
even when I'm right,
I just be like, I'm sorry.
Damn.
Let's just move on.
How do we fix this?
And it's been fixed.
So when y'all started out, was there no, like, obviously there was no drink sponsorships at all?
No, yeah.
Yeah, no drink sponsorships at all.
And we started out, it was two bottles.
With what?
What were the bottles?
Moe?
They might have been Ciroc.
No, we sponsored ourselves with bottles.
Yeah.
But y'all actively chose Ciroc to start.
Absolutely. And Ciroc to start. Absolutely.
And Ciroc chose us.
And then later.
No, we had...
Nah, I don't know what's real.
Let's be real with this.
Nah, we had relationships with...
When you first, first started, you had relationships with Ciroc already.
Not with Ciroc.
Well, it's a complicated story.
Yeah.
I used to work for Bad Boy doing the promotions in Miami.
I worked Ciroc.
I couldn't even
give it away to him oh y'all got this on camera yeah continue tell your story you know it's true
it's a true story it's a true story i couldn't it was nobody wanted it nobody in the world initially
in the country in the world and we our job was to give it to radio stations and give it away
we couldn't give it away but anyways long story short, I had a documentary series that when Revolt TV launched, which is a Puffy property.
Yeah, of course.
They licensed my documentary.
It was my first film I ever did in any kind of film.
And they licensed it.
And then he had a relationship with Puffy as well.
And so when Drink Champs took off, we had relationships.
And we parlayed it into the Revolt system.
And Revolt, Puffy, Ciroc, it was a natural thing to bring in.
So we didn't do Foo Foo, by the way.
I see.
This is for us, by us.
Y'all got your own.
I know y'all have the weed, but you have your own liquor.
Oh, no.
Wow, you want to get in with us? we have a little liquor. Oh
Cuz I'm already it
Just bring it I'm her senator us and we put on tail but we had a fake Drake
Thank you bring it to us
Second over the second is Is that seat right after first class bring it to us. You know, I keep thinking about Prosecco. You know what Prosecco is? Prosecco is that... I like Prosecco with mimosa.
You know what Prosecco is?
I'll drink a mimosa.
It's that seat
right after first class.
Shut up.
You can get Prosecco
in first class.
You can smell it.
You can smell it.
It's a dog right there
barking.
Damn.
Damn dog.
You can smell it
and it pulls a curtain on you.
What's the last Prosecco you had?
You had like LaMarca.
Have you had Prosecco
in your life recently?
No.
You know why, sis?
I've been traveling for 25 years so I went to Champagne, France, and I realized that
if it's not from Champagne, France...
But what about Prosecco, Italy?
But that's the thing.
It's all about the name it comes from.
It's all the same shit.
I want to turn you into a converter, so I would like you to be in our commercials.
Yes.
So you're coming back with your Prosecco?
Yes, I will.
That's what we're doing.
Okay, bet.
I don't want y'all to actively clown my Prosecco. I want you to taste it. You got to be here, so... But this with your Prosecco. Yes, I will. That's what we're doing. Okay, bet. I don't want y'all to like actively clown my Prosecco.
I want you to taste it.
You got to be here.
But this is your Prosecco.
We're not clowning it.
This is yours.
This is you.
You made it.
You co-signed it.
You tasted it.
All right.
You're going to sound the great.
So whatever the fuck.
Yeah, all right.
Don't just give me shit.
It's not on it though right now.
I'm not launching it yet.
It's not on it.
Okay.
But yes.
Okay.
Eventually you will have. In the future. Yes. Yes. But you're actively doing yet. It's not on it. Okay. But yes. Okay. Eventually you will have. It's in the future.
Yes. Yes.
But you're actively doing this. It's already, yes.
Oh, okay. It's already made it.
They got, um...
Oh, no. Cedar?
What is it? Fat Boy Rose.
Then they got...
Oh, like instead of Skinny Girl, it's
Fat Boy Rose Skinny Girl.
Oh, you write that book, Skinny Girl?
Well, I used to fuck with Skinny Girl. Skinny Bitch. That was the book. Skinny Bitch. Yeah. Well, there's of Skinny Girl, it's Fat Boy versus Skinny Girl. Oh, you write that book, Skinny Girl? Well, I used to fuck with Skinny Girl.
That was the book, Skinny Bitch.
Well, there's like Skinny Girl, Margarita, Skinny Girl Wines.
So I'm assuming Fat Boy came after that or no?
Fat Boy, no?
Yeah, something like that.
We don't even know about Skinny Girl.
Yeah, we don't know.
It was the Beverly Hills Housewife.
Yes, Beverly Hills Housewife.
But like y'all having your own tequila, whatever liquor.
What's the drink?
It's obviously brown.
Well, I have guacamole coming out.
He went straight to the guacamole.
I might as well pitch.
I might as well keep it going.
Go for it.
Yes.
Holy Moly guacamole.
I got Holy Moly Nori guacamole coming out.
Yes.
I got my own beers.
That's why Valley of the Bell was here.
She co-signed my shit.
You know what I mean?
Did she taste it?
It doesn't matter. So she here she co-signed my shit
She tasted it no she didn't taste it where I was only at you have to walk Molly right now listen Let me just pay you something. I'll be honest
The first batch that I got
Was horrible. I'm not gonna lie to you. I told everybody, this is my guacamole. His first batch is hummus.
People was like...
People was like, who brought...
These are people who told me.
This is how you know it wasn't good.
People was like, who brought the potato salad with the raisins?
You got raisins in the guacamole?
No, that's the old black shit.
If anybody brings some potato salad with raisins,
you got to kick them the fuck out.
Because potato salad and raisins do not go together.
So when the person said that,
and they didn't know it was my guacamole,
I was like, fuck, I got to get this together.
Did you claim it at the time?
No, I did not.
Why would I?
Why would I?
They just said, this shit is horrible.
I said, fuck.
So I went back, I said,
I don't know if y'all know me,
but I'm black, and I'm Puerto Rican. I need flavor. I said, I don't know if y'all know me, but I'm black and I'm Puerto Rican.
Yeah.
I need flavor.
Yeah.
I need one salt.
But wait, technically, not to be ignorant, is guacamole Puerto Rican?
It's Mexican.
It's Mexican.
Okay.
So you have Puerto Rican guacamole.
Tomato, tomato.
No, I don't know.
Big man?
You had guacamole with raisins in it. So, yeah.
So, but the second batch, I did the same exact thing.
Who made it?
Same exact people.
These are the people who make all the french fries
from McDonald's, I promise you.
This company, I can't believe they doing business with me.
And probably the bellhop co-sign.
But I can't believe they doing business with me.
So the second batch, I threw it out on my next barbecue and they told it oh did you taste it first of all to
begin with both batches and he still went out with no I did not go no I did
not go all right no no I can't do it no the second one but you're saying like
it's good it is finally so now amazing. No, it's amazing.
Yeah, no, it is.
It is.
It is.
It is.
It is.
Finally.
So now I'm ready to promote it.
So when is it going to be out?
Like, out there?
Well, we getting the packaging together right now.
We finally got the avocados.
We finally got everything together.
Actually, I didn't know that this is, like, mafia shit.
Are you going to incorporate it into this?
Well, you know that the avocado shit is mafia shit.
Yeah, avocado is mafia.
This is, like, I'm into mafia. That's the cartel shit.
I might as well stay in racks.
It's more safer.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, yeah.
Like, shit is real.
Like, like, like.
Because that's how they.
Yeah, like, like.
I don't know if you are.
You tasted it?
No, I did not taste it.
And I love guacamole.
And I love avocado.
He doesn't leave his house.
He just, he just, he's.
This guy.
He's a super homebody.
I'm a father of two little kids.
And this guy says I don't leave my house.
No, he just asked me. I'm just being a father of two little kids, and this guy says I don't leave my house. No, he just asked you.
I'm just being a father.
He says there's 15,000 other fathers that come outside.
Great story.
He uses it as an excuse.
He don't respect your father.
He don't respect it.
He uses it as an excuse.
But holy moly guacamole, I got one more shot left in me.
Let's go.
I don't have none.
You got one more.
I have a sip of champagne.
You have one more shot.
This is for rap shit. Or you can take that home show. You got one more. I have a sip of champagne. You have one more shot. This is for rap shit.
Or you can take that home show.
You can do it.
HBO Max, they trying to take out Netflix.
I ain't mad at them.
Y'all want to take out Netflix?
Y'all want to keep putting on shows?
I want to watch over there.
Listen, thank you.
Did you watch, what's the shit on HBO Max about the Waldorf Four Seasons?
Wait, what?
The Four Seasons Hotel
in Hawaii
where they just,
everyone's just
killing everybody
and fucking everybody.
You ain't see this shit?
White, what is it?
Look, Google it.
I was thinking
White Lotus,
but that's not it.
White Lotus!
That is not where
everybody's killing
and fucking everybody.
First of all,
Hawaii?
That's an amazing film.
That's about Hawaii, right?
Yeah, it was in Hawaii,
but no,
everybody's not killing and fucking each other. Take it, take it. But it's a amazing film. It's about Hawaii, right? That's like, yeah, it was in Hawaii, but no, everybody's not killing and fucking each other.
They're killing and fucking each other and doing somersaults.
You had me playing, but I love that show.
Yeah, that show was fire.
So what are they doing if they're not killing and fucking each other?
Yeah, they die.
What are they doing?
It's about like customer service at the end of the day.
Yeah.
Kind of.
It's about appropriation and customer service.
And a couple people die. And fuck each other. Literally one person. Yeah, Kind of. It's about appropriation and customer service. And a couple people die.
One person.
Literally one person.
Yeah.
All right.
I honestly want you to, like, review movies and TV shows, but they would just be wrong.
Nah.
Yo, you need to do that, doggy.
By the way, MTV had a job for me, like, ten years ago.
But it's just like, yo, we just wanted to describe
the fuck out of the movie, fuck it up,
describe it the same exact way.
Yeah, it was reviews.
They wanted me to like, I swear to God.
But I think I'm more interested in what you don't fuck with.
Like, I like the idea of what you fuck with,
but like, if you don't fuck with something,
then I know that I need to stay away.
Okay, I'll tell you what I don't fuck with.
I'll tell you what I do fuck with one more time.
Okay.
Have you ever seen Space Force? No, yeah, I have seen you I don't fuck I'll tell you I do fuck with one more time. Okay. Have you ever seen Space Force?
No, yeah, I have since that I click so yeah, I don't like it. I don't like thank you
Like you
Man name from 40 years
Salute, salute. You got to go again? Yeah, we going there.
Oh, fuck, man.
And what's your favorite show besides your show, obviously, and besides a dating show?
What's the show that-
I love-
The show that set me off this year is Severance.
I will talk about that shit all day.
Severance on Apple TV Plus is phenomenal.
It's the best season one finale that I've seen.
If you want to binge some shit, you got it.
It's like a mix between a comedy, sci-fi, but like real shit.
Severance?
Severance, yes.
It's a sci-fi joint?
But it's like sci-fi grounded.
It's like sci-fi 10 years from now, you know?
It's good as fuck.
I love that show. That's the last show where I was like, damn, know it's good as fuck i love that show that's the last show where
i was like damn that shit was good as fucking i've been telling everybody about it and it got
nominated like for hella um shit this year but it's good what about y'all did we talk about you
working with patty on the black did we talk about that already patty uh made an appearance on our
first season of black lady sketch show they had had an amazing sketch idea. I remember the first
time we went to go to their writer's room.
One of the first sketches they pitched
to us was like a sketch featuring Patti LaBelle
and it had me dying laughing.
Then I was like, but we gotta say
get Patti to say yes and they got her
to say yes.
She killed it.
Then seeing her
at Essence. Essence is so tricky.
Like, this year was a little bit weird because it was, like, the first time that everybody's been back.
Since the pandemic?
Yeah, post-pandemic.
And the concerts, there's a lot of legal shit going on.
It has to be messy.
So it was just, like, hard to be there.
But Patti coming out during one of the concerts just changed the game.
You just are immediately reminded, like, she's a legend.
She out-sings anybody.
Yes.
Anybody.
And just reminds you why she's a legend, why she's a diva, why she is who she is, why she's an icon.
And then she's just a lovely person.
It feels like she could be in your family, even though she's not.
Man, we feel like it.
I heard you on a flight back from Essence, bro.
Met the man, ghost face.
First of all, met the man.
Well, it was crazy when I saw met the man.
You ain't going to big me up for me knowing that information?
I thought you would be like, how you know?
Immediately. Because I said it in front of you.
Okay.
So why is she going to big you up?
She said it in front of you.
I got this information on my own.
I have no way of knowing that, but yes, I will big you up.
A hundred percent.
Okay, so who was on this flight?
It was Ghostface.
It was Method Man.
It was Ghostface who came after.
Same flight with you?
Same flight with me back from Essence to, I was going somewhere else.
I was on my way to like Jersey through Italy.
And when I tell you, this is like a fantasy fulfilled.
I was putting my luggage up in the overhead bin.
And like it was a struggle.
I'm not going to lie.
Putting it up.
And Method Man helped you?
No, not yet.
So then this man, we all have masks on the plane because COVID is flaring back up again.
So I put my thing up and i was very rough-headed and i go to sit down and this man in
front of me irritates me by being like you know you almost put somebody's head out putting that
luggage up and i was like oh did i yeah and i was like oh did i and then he put his mask down like
you know who i am and i was like method man what? No, I didn't.
Like, got into immediate mode.
And, you know, he was just super sweet.
And then when I got off the plane, and then he was like, yo, my wife fucks with your hair products because you have, like, a hairline called Santa Natural.
And that was, like, immediately, like, man, this man is showing love.
And then when I got off the plane, when the plane landed, he got my luggage down automatically.
Right.
He didn't want to get hit either.
Huh?
He didn't want to get hit either.
Yeah, man.
I would like to think he was a gentleman.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was a gentleman.
And he was like,
yeah, you and Harry Belafonte,
those are the only ones I got luggage down.
I was like, that's amazing company.
That's the only one here.
What?
Wow, the only people he ever helped.
That's dope.
Her and Harry Belafonte. vante man said the only two people
he helped with his luggage is you and harry brother so two legends you don't have to like
help anybody why he had to throw that out there he knew what he was doing he threw that out there
like nah he's saying that for a reason i was i was honored and what's crazy is literally the
night before i was watching videos of him because he performed to Essence too.
And I told him awkwardly, I was like, yo, I was watching your workout videos all night
because I've been like super into my fitness.
He posts like videos.
He's going in.
So to see him on the plane the next day was like really nice.
And he was just a wonderful person.
I respect him.
God damn it.
Is there anybody that's a fan of you that you did not expect to be a fan?
I would go back.
Regina King was one of the first major people when I was doing the album with Black Girl.
Okay, that's 227?
Regina King, 227?
Yeah.
Because I be getting all the Regina mixed up.
Regina Hall, who's also amazing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Both of them, honestly.
But not to confuse them further, but Regina King. 227 also amazing. Both of them, honestly, but not to confuse them further,
but Regina King.
227.
Yes.
Okay.
Why is that the latest?
227? 227, yeah, is the latest reference.
Like, Regina King is definitely.
227 was hard.
You don't watch nothing.
She's a mad dame.
I watch.
What you talking about?
I watch after that.
Like, Dewey Street, what's that shit?
The Leftovers, my HBO show.
What's the shit with the black cowboy shit?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Jay-Z and them did.
Harder They Fall.
Harder They Fall.
Come on, she was a gangster.
So why you didn't say Virginia King, Harder They Fall?
You went to like the 80s.
Because nothing can top 227.
Okay.
He just said his top reference is that.
Listen, Theo, he can do a lot of roles.
You mean Malcolm Jamal Warner?
He's going to be Theo.
For the rest of his goddamn life.
You're going to give him his real credit.
Wow, okay.
You know what?
You look at Theo and say, Malcolm, you'd be like, Theo, what up, nigga?
Come on.
In your mind.
I say, but you can do that because you're you.
When you see Wesley Snipes.
I say, Mr. Wesley.
Yeah. You don't think Nino nobody says that even now you see Chris sucker you don't see no no no no no no no no no no You're not gonna go smoky. Y'all be out of here. You went wild.
Wesley Snipes, Nino Brown, even with all he's done.
I call Wesley Snipes Nino Brown after he did Nino Brown.
But now he's done so much.
He's wild. He's wild.
So that's why people go up to you and say,
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
That's why. That's karma.
No, no, but it is.
It is.
Some people kill a role so much that they're them for the rest of their life.
No, but that's not true with Wesley Snipes.
Yeah, he has so many roles in school.
No, no, I'm playing around, obviously.
He was played.
There's some people who have a role where it's just like.
That's fair.
Yeah, it's just like.
But now it's Wesley Snipes.
All right, but let's name somebody with a role that you.
Who did a role that just, I only know them from that.
I will only know Stacey Dash as Dion from Clueless.
Wow.
You are phenomenal.
That's y'all, like, resident trivia man?
He's our sports.
Our dream champ sports.
Sports coordinator.
Sports coordinator.
What else do you know?
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
But, but, but...
That's a love connection.
Let's be clear.
Let's be clear.
And she's from Queens. She's be clear. And she's from Queens.
She's from Queens.
But come on.
When I see Pam.
Oh, yeah.
Pam.
Sorry.
You're not talking about Pam Greer, though.
No.
Pam from Martin.
Pam from Martin.
No, I'm just saying.
Pam Greer.
Pam Greer is Pam Greer.
The Pam Greer is Pam Greer.
And she's Foxy Brown, too. But I feel like that's. No. But Pam Greer. Pam Greer is Pam Greer. The Pam Greer is Pam Greer. And she's foxy brown, too.
But I feel like that's...
Never mind.
But Pam is Pam.
You agree on that?
Yes, but I respect to Sheena Arnold.
I love you.
I think that you're multifaceted.
Yes.
And Carlton?
That's fucked up.
Yo, and what's...
Are we not keeping it real here?
I always wondered who the audience was. And now I know. Y'all already be trying. The thing is, the talk to us. Yo, and what are we not keeping it real here?
Selena From large a low as Selena is the best for all this. She's like you fucked all shit up right now Josie
What's the dude, the tall dude from Mark, man? From what? Oh, Tommy. Tommy moved to Miami.
Tommy did pass.
Damn.
No, listen.
He moved to Miami, and when we was young, Jits going, I was pressing up mixtapes.
He used to come to Kinko's.
Hey, what does Jits mean?
Jits is kids.
Kids.
Jits in Miami means kids.
You used it in New York.
Yeah, she used it.
That was in prom.
And I was like, she was like, stupid ass jit.
And I was like, I don't know what that is.
Jit means kiss.
I love it.
You let it go.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
That's all.
That's all.
I didn't know what it meant either.
I just want to shout out Tommy Go.
Until five years ago.
He moved down by where we lived, me and my friends.
And he used to come to the Kinkos where i used to make my mixtape covers
and he used to try to school us on the industry like he would like he was like trying to mentor
us in a good way or in a way where it's like why you know okay totally positive way like i don't
even know why he was the fucking kinko i don't even know we didn't belong he didn't belong and
i don't know what the fuck like and y'all used to actually listen. No, we did listen to him.
What made y'all listen?
Because he was from Martin.
Oh, yeah.
It was a show that was epic to us.
And I didn't even know.
I was like, fuck, Tommy's here?
Why the fuck is he here in our little town and we're in South Miami?
Like, why the fuck is Tommy here?
Damn, that's crazy how just like global that was.
Where like, he's not a side character character but a side character was still the shit.
Yes, absolutely.
And universally known.
And even the side
side characters.
That doesn't happen.
Like Hustle Man.
Yeah, that doesn't happen.
Like Hustle Man.
And Brumad from the fifth floor.
Brumad, yeah.
Brumad, yeah.
And was still all
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah, that's crazy.
I mean Hustle Man
the actor
I don't know him by name.
Tracy Morgan.
Oh, Hustle Man is Tracy Morgan. What was Brumad from the fifth floor? Oh, in the actor, I don't know him by name. Tracy Morgan. Oh, how's somebody that's Tracy Morgan? What was Bruh Man from the Fifth Floor?
Oh, that's a guy you don't know by name.
I don't know by name.
Yeah, he was Martin's bodyguard.
That's what's crazy about that thing.
In real life?
I believe so.
I believe that was Martin's bodyguard in real life.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yup.
And they ain't had nobody to play the role.
They just had him come down.
He's a Bruh Man from the Fifth Floor, put up four.
And they said, this nigga's legend. And they hired down. He's a bromine from the fifth floor and put up for and they said this niggas legend And they hired
That's dope
that
Why I don't have no food here. Oh, yeah, we don't do that. Sorry. Well the guacamole that'll be there. Yeah
It'll be just what I
Know just what come on
We're not used to having girls here we're not used to having Queens here Just guacamole. Just guacamole. You got to just scoop it. But you know what? And you just love it. You're like, holy moly, holy moly.
We're not used to having girls here.
We're not used to having queens here.
We're going to start to cater more. You're the one food.
Because you know what?
We have to invite our beautiful, my wife and my wife's friends, because to make y'all feel
more comfortable.
First of all, that's not the excuse.
You should just want us here.
Not because your wife feels comfortable.
No, no.
We just want to make it more comfortable
because this woman power me. I'm down with the woman empowerment. These women empowerment.
Woman need empowerment and we all empowerment the woman. I appreciate that. I think we should
woman empowerment. Yeah. Because I'm a feminist. Super genuine. I'm a feminist.
You know what?
If he wasn't like this,
I'm sorry.
I'm a feminist.
I'm sorry.
I'm going to die.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Why he laughing at me?
Because of any reason.
But it's hilarious.
But you ever see Jason Perrault's special?
He said,
a feminist is
anybody who believes that the woman's
rights should be respected.
That makes me a feminist.
I am a feminist.
And I want to put my black fist up
for feminists.
Take a shot for the feminists.
Take a shot for the feminists.
Take a shot for the feminists.
I'm taking a shot for the feminists.
We're going to take a shot for the feminists in this world right now.
Okay, let me ask you something.
Do you play spades?
Mm-hmm.
I haven't played in a long time, but I play it, and I'm excellent.
I don't like your skepticism.
No, I'm not skepticism of you.
This is what I need to know.
Where did Spades come from?
I don't... You got to tell me because...
The fuck?
Definitely from jail.
But why are you asking her the history of Spades?
Because it's a legendary game.
Y'all play Spades?
You play Spades?
Why definitely from jail?
I just...
Because the rules change so much.
So Spaze-
Did you play it when you was in?
Yes, of course.
Yeah, yeah.
But let me tell you something about Spaze.
People judge your blackness by how you play.
Look, look, look, look.
People be like, you play Spaze?
And you be like, no, nothing about it.
Yep, yep.
Low key, Domino's too. Yes. More for Latino for me. More Latinos judge me more. I love Domino's to yes I'm a Domino's player yeah but they judge
you by not knowing space yeah I've seen that um are we gonna put space in one of
these series because I've never seen like I think that should be an Olympic sport, too. Spades.
Holy moly.
Let's go dominoes, too.
Dominoes because there's an athletic power.
Yes, because.
Oh, but you ain't never said.
You ain't never did that.
No, spades does that, too.
I do, but I've never been in a game that.
I've never really played spades with, like, men men.
Like, I've always had a female partner or, like, a male.
It's another woman.
It's not that. It's always, like, you know, it's respectful. But when I just see men play space y'all That's what my wife knew I was way too competitive. She was on opposite team with me and she got it
Replace We play Spades. She wasn't your partner? No, I don't know what happened. She was like, oh, another girl came over.
Another girl came over to the house.
She wanted to do girl power.
I was like, really?
OK.
You know, we.
No, that's good.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm a feminist, but you're not on my team.
Yeah.
What?
And the other day, Trick Daddy, we went.
I met up with Trick Daddy.
I know he plays Spades.
And they played the cheatingest Spades I've ever seen Why you calling them cheatingest spades man
Cause it's some Miami shit
That's how you do
He changed the rules on me three times
In the same hand
That's a lie bro
Why you don't have to do that
No I needed to learn
And then when I caught on
What did I do Ross
I ran it up on they ass Oh I killed them two hands And then when I caught on, what did I do, Ross? I ran it up on their ass.
Oh, I killed them two hands.
And you know what I did after that?
And they accepted it?
You know what I did after that?
What?
Like, the rational person that I am, I quit.
I said, I win.
Because you won.
Take a shot.
Go win it on top.
They were so dumbfounded.
They was looking like, because, you know, I'm a New Yorker.
I talk mad shit once I win.
Like, if I'm losing, I'm quiet.
I ran it up.
The first hand, the third,
it was the first two hands,
they cheated.
Let's just be clear.
Don't say they cheated, bro.
Yeah, they cheated.
They changed the rules on me.
And I said, okay,
I know how to change the rules, too.
And then I ran it up.
Who was his partner?
Somebody you knew or just...
My partner was his partner. Oh, so y'all switched it his partner oh yeah they was all they were no no because i had to i'm in there
barbecue i can't be like you yeah you know so i got oh just next all right cool this is his hype
man my partner is his hype man i feel like they texting each other like yo this is what he got
so i'm like all right my partner not even on my team. I'm running up on him, too.
You know, I'm just focused on the fact that y'all had.
I cut his diamonds.
Y'all had a legendary space game with, like, legendary icons of music.
Like, that's dope.
That's dope.
That's hella dope.
So we going to play space at your next Yacht Party?
I can't, no.
At the Yacht Party.
Let's do it.
There's no, like, space for the Yacht.
Like, it's strictly dancing, drinking, smoking. No, there's no space. First of guy like it's strictly dancing drinking smoking
No, there's no space table. Yeah, first of all, it's like the ocean
We could play I don't want anybody sitting down. I just want like fun. You're gonna drink. Yeah, exactly
Cheers drink, right? You maybe perform y'all the best job party we ever had
La like September 10th, then it's done.
Oh, my birthday's September 6th.
So then we'll celebrate.
Then we'll have a cake.
I could wait.
I could wait.
If you want to have an impromptu performance, which is what I was getting at, like, Miguel
came to one, sang a Dorn.
You got an impromptu performance.
Dorn.
Okay.
You're going to have to say, wah, wah, wah, wah.
You see how this shit works?
I love it.
So if y'all are in town that weekend, come through.
First of all, I have to get a boat first.
I'm all talking this shit, but the boat has to be available.
But you said yacht.
Yeah, yacht.
He's like worried about, it's not just a boat, right?
No, it's not just a boat. right? It's not just a boat.
But I'm like, now I'm like self-conscious. Are you really going to come like I have to
like step the yacht up? Because, you know, we
live in Miami. I know.
This should be right in front of my
house like this. Yeah, he captures sharks
on his... Do you live on like Star Island?
No. Oh, he lives on other Star
Island. The other one that's like... Starfish
Island. He lives on Starfish Island. Is that a real place? Nope. I live on other Star Island. The other one that's like... Starfish Island. He lives on Starfish Island.
Is that a real place?
Nope.
I live on normal nigga lane.
I live in Kendall.
No one.
It's totally normal.
Well, if y'all have a party out here,
and you have yachts,
and you have yacht connections...
And you've been out here...
How long you been out here filming this?
We were here six months.
Whoa.
And...
Let's do a Miami thing out here for the series like
incorporate us when i was out if i had known that like i would have hit y'all up but now we're just
getting acquainted second season let's go i swear to god camera is this being recorded i swear to
god if we have a second season and y'all don't run our rap shit.
Listen, we are here.
We are part of this community, so please include us.
But I don't want to be Nori.
You got this?
Yeah, I don't want to be Nori.
I want to be like the New Yorker.
Oh, nobody wants to be Nori.
That's the only thing with this show.
I should be Nori?
Yeah, because the set of the work's New York.
Who are you going to be, Mori?
No, no, no.
That part.
Because you know why?
You're also what you have not realized.
You're also my agent.
I don't know if you know.
Okay, well, yeah.
I signed up.
So I get 10% and you work for it.
Okay.
That's crazy.
Remember, it's like,
because they're going to see this and be like,
yo, Maury's a great actor.
I'm like, you listen, you got to talk to Issa.
That's it.
That's it.
I want to break it down.
Like, with Insecure,
I was hyped to get musicians play other people.
But because rap shit is center of the music world,
your music life, you have to play yourself.
Yeah.
And then just whatever be it.
Yeah, like a little bit.
An extreme version of yourself.
Yeah, a little bit.
Whatever it is.
But like, and now I want actors to play musicians.
So if I do another show and you want to get your act on for real,
then that's a different situation.
What you trying to play?
I don't know. You don't even situation. What's she trying to play?
I don't know.
You don't even know.
I just, but you know what?
You should be like a magician.
Ha!
I mean.
A magician.
A magician just with no context.
Like Harry Potter, but Nori.
Nori Potter.
I like that, look at you.
You know what, I should be the Three Car Molly guy.
Imagine, the rapper version of Harry Potter.
That's like their painted pool roller, didn't it, like a fast talk guy. Imagine. The rapper version of that. That's like their pay-per-pool roller game.
Like a fast-talker.
I like that.
That sounds magician.
Yeah, you'd be like,
I'm not a mogul.
I kind of like that.
I think that's nice.
But it's still playing.
I want to see you play
something different
outside yourself.
I'm not a doctor.
I don't think I can pull it off.
You should play a surfer.
I swear to God.
I swear to God.
When I was doing my role,
my little roles,
someone actually asked me to do a doctor. I was like, I ain't gonna, when I was doing my role, my little roles, someone actually
asked me to do a doctor.
I was like,
I ain't gonna get that shit.
I just never went.
You never went?
Yeah, I swear to God.
Black man, please.
Yeah, no, no, no.
I swear to God.
I've never met a doctor
with like a hardcore
New York accent.
That's crazy.
So you say I should've went.
Yeah.
You should've.
Absolutely you should've went.
I'm Dr. Timberlake.
Because you were at a church.
No, you couldn't.
Why not?
I'm Dr. Carr. Why couldn't you be a doctor? What's your diagnosis if you tell somebody they got a kiss or how you going to deliver
it?
He's like, you're dead.
Tell me the dramatic role.
Like in your role, you bring-
All right, so you want to go.
Go, go.
Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
No, no, hold on.
I'm going to come at you.
You ready?
Yes.
Can I set the scene real quick?
Can I set the scene?
I have cancer.
He has cancer.
My mom has cancer.
I have cancer.
I have cancer. I have cancer. I have, no, hold up. I'm going to come back to you. You ready? Yes.
Can I set the scene real quick?
Can I set the scene?
I have cancer.
He has cancer.
My mom's not.
No, no, no.
She has cancer.
You're talking about cancer?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm the director.
Okay, you're the director.
So my character has cancer.
My mom is here.
She thinks that the tumor is benign.
We think we're out of here.
We're fine.
So how are you going to deliver the news?
Don't talk.
Also, I have like 24 hours to live.
Okay.
Scene.
Pause, pause, pause.
Ready?
Action.
Hey, Doc.
All right.
Why are you laughing, Doc?
Because I actually had.
Wait, stop, stop, stop.
Scene cut.
Yes.
All right. So what's your name my name
my friend right I stopped no I'm your
patient oh my doctor oh yeah you're not
homie no you're the doctor the home
everybody everybody said action hey doc Hey doc. Stop, stop. One more time, one more time. Stop, stop. Can you get your accent? Can you get your accent?
Because I'm ready.
Listen, bro.
There's a director of mine if you can't fuck with me, man.
That fucking with you.
Here's your directing skills, man.
No, no, listen.
All right, hold on.
Get in zone, get in zone.
All right, yes.
Everybody set?
All right, and do I know your name?
Or are you just my patient?
Suzy.
Suzy Q.
All right, good.
Set for scene.
Set for scene.
Action.
Hey, doc.
I got my mom here.
Doc, you smoking?
Susie.
She is real.
What's real? My talent?
She is real with me.
Oh, real. All right. Let's cover some shit.
It's going to make us both
not happy.
Cut. Let's set scene again. That was good. It's gonna make us both not happy Cut!
Set scene again That was good
Now that was not good
That was not good
Who the fuck are you, Rustler?
Rustler, you are now helping our actor friends
Nori, get it together
You are the doctor
You are the doctor That's why I show up I was
doctor she's the patient are y'all ready
sir no no you're not ready yeah home, I'm gonna get a shot. I'm just directed like you got a coach is like
No point is no please. All right. Well, it's just shit together. I'll get your shit together. Cool. That's the point
What's your name?
Her mom is right right there. All right, cool. Ready?
Action.
Susie, I just seen the diagnosis.
What's that? I could give it to you, like, you know, the other way.
Or I could give it to you the real way or the nonchalant way.
Doctor, like, we came to you, me and my mom came through, like, we thought all was good,
so I just want you to give it to me real.
I feel like we should take a shot first.
I know I'm not a traditional doctor.
Come on, we're alive!
We're alive!
The doctor!
The doctor!
Let my doctor be my doctor!
Denzel drank as a pilot.
This is the doctor's office.
It's none of our business.
OK.
I feel like.
I'm 18.
I should still take a shot?
Yeah, to numb the pain.
Moms, too.
Come on.
Mom, are you good?
We got the Japanese deli, y'all, mom.
You know what it is.
OK.
You get your shot.
You get your shot.
Yeah, all right.
All right, cool.
Is it good news?
Yeah, we're going to party, too.
We're 1999.
It's 2022.
And cut.
That was terrible, everybody.
I have more.
I have more.
There's no way that you're delivering medical news on the spot.
We knew me as a doctor was not working.
No, you have to be a doctor.
OK, now, let's do another scene.
Let's do a scene where you're the doctor,
and I'm the homies that got shot friend.
Oh, let's do it.
You're the homies that got shot friend?
No, no, no.
I'm not a director still.
No, you're not a director.
We didn't like you as a director.
So you are the doctor. I'm not a director still. No, no, you're not a director. We didn't like you as a director. So you are the doctor.
I'm holding him down.
He just got shot.
Niggas hit him up at the ice cream shop.
They didn't like it.
We rival gangs.
Oh, rival gangs.
No, I'm your friend.
I'm holding you down.
But I got shot by rival gangs.
You got shot by rival gangs.
I got shot.
I got shot.
I just got shot.
You got to talk to me because I'm holding him down.
He's like, oh, my support.
Yeah, he got the shit in it.
You know the noise that they be making?
He like that.
All right, cool. Cool, doc.
All right, now I'm going to be sad.
Now I've got this part. This part I got.
Okay.
So who's the director?
No director.
No director?
No director.
That's it.
Hi, Mr. Iega? No director. Hi, Mr. Iega?
Iega, I like that.
Thank you, doctor.
Mr. Iega, I have some...
What happened with my chico?
Where were you guys, first of all?
Can I get some information?
He's, um...
He was at Flanagan's.
Flanagan's is that...
He was at Flanagan's.
He just left Showgirls.
Ay, me duele.
Me duele.
He was at the strip club
where all the girls got bullet holes in them.
It's not true.
And then he went to...
The office.
No, this is Flanagan's.
Oh, Flanagan's.
No, no, excuse me.
Flanagan's is where we ate.
But he went to Showgirls.
He went to Showgirls.
I had a two-piece on.
And at Showgirls, you know,
they got one-leg strippers.
Yeah.
You know, that type of shit.
Yeah, I understand he had chispisa.
He's lactose intolerant as well.
Yes, I don't like it.
Yeah.
And iguana.
Well, I have some bad news.
Does he speak Spanish?
No.
He speaks.
On the weekends.
Does he know the word morta?
Because he's going to die.
No, I'm not dying.
Telling my mom.
Is that the morphine that's fucking him up?
You know, we didn't actually put morphine in there.
We just put some cognac.
And he should be fine.
He should bounce back.
But what's your relationship?
Did you shoot him or are y'all just friends?
He shot me.
Oh, okay.
No.
I was there. What was your affiliation um they they got they are some weird mexican you know
yeah this is a real mexican so you're saying and i'm like i'm puerto rican and black so i really
don't got nothing to do with that shit but after after it happened, I was like, you know what, that's the homie. Let me put him in
my Hyundai. You know what I'm saying?
And then I
brung him to the Yala. Then we went and stopped
and got some wings because I was hungry.
You know, at the time, like, you know, I'm lactose
intolerant. If my levels
of sugar go down, I needed some lemon
pepper. So I got a couple of lemon
pepper and then
I dropped the homie off. So when did he get
pizza at that point? Because he said he had pizza.
You looking real suspicious. Pizza?
That was left over in my car.
My Toyota Tercel. So you had some
pizza, some car pizza.
Yeah. No, he ate the car pizza. He ate
rug pizza, by the way. He can't be. It's rug pizza.
It wasn't.
It was carpet pizza.
It was rug for the rug.
Sir, he's telling me that you tried to kill him.
Because he's delusional, you know?
I think he got shot.
We just gave him a little bit of ecstasy
to numb the pain.
And that's the reason why he's a little crazy.
That's weird.
So you don't fuck with him.
No, no. I love him.
That's why I'm here.
Did you bring him here?
I think so.
No, my mommy did.
Okay I think we need a director honestly I think we're struggling without a director.
So it's in scene? In scene. I killed that. I killed that.
Listen. The motivation and the you were determined not to die,
that the commitment there was phenomenal.
I would watch that.
Listen, I would watch that.
Okay, so, but, let's recap.
Recap. Recap.
But how many of your friends, like, actually tried to, like, act?
I know we're playing around, but not really.
But, um, because the beginning of the road, we're playing around but not really but um
and some of them to their credit do and some of them like when I believe in
someone I will try my hardest to make sure they're like they at least have
those opportunities to do it themselves.
But there's some people where I'm like,
you never even, like
why now? And why me?
Why? Like, you know, exactly. Yeah.
And that's what it feels like. But when I
believe in someone, like,
I'm like the biggest champion of my
friends who are talented. The way you believe in us right now.
To be honest with you. The way I believe in y'all.
The way I'm about to get into the hot tub.
You were like, wow, man.
That's a cinematic reflection.
The way y'all are geniuses.
You guys could be on Broadway.
Yeah, like, you know, Miami Broadway?
You gotta be.
Y'all got that.
You gotta be.
Yeah, y'all got that.
We're going.
Y'all got that.
Let's get y'all in there.
No, but for real, but like, yes, I've experienced that where people kind of expect you to put them on because they're on.
But like, I can't, I can't have everybody.
I'll tell you the funniest thing.
I'm sure it's like the same way in music and rap.
Oh, listen, I'm going through a travesty.
I'm talking about this, like two people that died, three people.
I don't want to
say his first name, but let me just tell you something.
Let me just say. So
he hits me and he's like, yo, I'm in here
for you. You know what I mean? Boom. I'm like,
okay, yo, thank you, man. I appreciate that.
The next three
texts I see, but I don't
really recognize that he's texting
me. Do you know
he sent me three records? Oh my God.
When someone has passed, but he knows you're
going through something.
He felt like he had my ear at the
time. So he didn't want to
lose the opportunity.
And I was like, and I knew he didn't
mean it in a way for
me to be offended. But just
imagine me. I lost
this person, I lost this person.
And I'm talking to him,
confining in him, obviously.
Like, yo, yo, bro.
And he's like, yo, I know how you feel.
By the way, I didn't even know this dude rapped.
And by the way, I haven't rapped in six years.
I don't know why.
Like, maybe ask to get on my podcast.
Like, but in this very moment,
he fucking sent me three records. Like, but the, and in this very moment, he fucking sent me
three records.
What, like,
how fresh is it?
This was 30 minutes
after we spoke.
This is 30 minutes
after we spoke.
And.
30 minutes after
he sent the condolences?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, a great.
That's a little,
when I tell you,
when I tell you,
it was a great condolence.
I got off the phone
and literally was like,
I misjudged Slime.
Slime ain't no like that.
Slime my man.
And then 30 minutes later, I went downstairs and he sent me.
And what's crazy is he never said, check these joints out.
He just sent it, expecting me to be like, all right, cool.
It looked like a voice message.
You know how the voice memos look?
So when I hit it I'm like oh my god
this nigga sending me music he thinks that in this time of grief I should so
that was it that was it though or no I didn't listen to it at all I ain't gonna
lie to you I listen to it capture you if it had captured in that moment if you had heard it and it was like like you would give a hundred percent
of everything I do so if I grieve I'm a grieve a hundred percent if I'm like if I'm like if I'm
halfway there I won't do I have to be a hundred percent that's me so I haven't gone to the studio
so many people has been offering me so much money do you have first human I can't do it but my heart
is not a hundred percent in it into it I won't do it so then you have to be in the receiving mode but there's never if you're
not in the receiving mode are you saying that there's no opportunity for you to like like say
you're shut down open yourself to it or like here's something that opens you up to it there's no mode
where you're like i'm shut down i don't want to hear anything. Oh, wait. If it makes sense, yes.
It's the jadedness of how much
the negative stuff is coming at you.
That's the problem.
You're so jaded by how many people are
coming at you in a negative way.
I want to give an example without
really explaining what happened,
but I got hit up by somebody that said
and I have to really be careful with how I say this.
You got your back.
Because I believe it's so crazy if it's true.
They were like, yo, someone died.
They hit me up.
They're like, someone died.
Can you post this image of them promoting them?
It would mean a lot to me.
And did you know the person?
No.
And in my mind
I'm like
of course I feel for this person
as a human
but what the fuck
is wrong with you?
Like why would you
think that
A. You create an image
for this situation
they said it's fresh it's a fresh
situation like it happened the day before yesterday so the graphic was created were you very close to
that person at all nothing that's what i'm trying to say he told you to post at all like i'm trying
to say this is a random literally a random literally a random but the fact that i'm just
saying this shows you the level this is why the social media thing that I was telling you before, this is where we're at.
We're at a weird space.
That's why you're staying away from social media, especially when it comes to personal situations.
It's very honorable.
But I also understand how people use it and how much it means to certain people in a very sick way.
It's sick.
That person will feel like, if you posted it, then the next narrative would be like...
Do it again.
Oh, I got, you know...
Or if I didn't post it,
which I didn't,
oh, this guy's foul.
For sure that.
But if you did,
that's when they would find power in themselves.
Like, yeah, I got him to post that.
Like, that was me.
You know how he posted that?
Like, I did that.
And there's just, like,
a different type of power within that.
Like, in my mind, my mind how do you this is how you're
mourning your mourning by wanting some random person to the coast on it like
but an important person go mourn go more what you ever felt obligated like post
your friends birthdays and shit like that hey like oh I stopped like because
I'm a very like that's, that's the hard part.
Like, when I finished Insecure, I took six months off of social media, and that was amazing.
And what I realized, though, to my guilt was, like, I didn't have, I didn't remember birthdays.
And so that was, like, a struggle.
That's good.
But then I was like, yeah.
But then I was like, it freed me from having to post to everybody on their birthday,
but it's still like,
you know,
I would rather like give you a personal message
on your birthday.
I would rather text you.
I would rather text,
that's it,
that's how I am.
Yeah,
and it's crazy.
I remember,
I don't even want to say
what I did or whatever,
but I remember
doing whatever I had
for one of my friends
for their birthday
and they said, but you didn't post it on the
gram. Get the fuck out of here.
I was so fucking
out of here. But this was like a
And this is a real friend. This is a real friend.
You know that's generational.
That's generational.
My girl's 10 years younger than me
and that matters to her.
That's different.
Even the repost.
If I don't comment.
I mean, mind you, my girl, she doesn't take it that serious.
But I've noticed she will tell me something.
She'll be like, yo, you didn't do this.
You didn't like on this.
You didn't.
Yeah, my friend whose birthday it was felt like obligated to repost everybody who tagged him in a birthday post right he was like i just
feel anxiety i was like what why do you feel obligated to repost everybody who tagged you
because he was like i feel like they're doing it because they want me to repost their message and
their stories and i was like i've never heard of it you think they're only wishing you happy
birthday so that you will repost i see you not not New Jersey. Yeah, some of them do. That's crazy to me. I was like...
That's ridiculous.
I'm sorry to agree with that,
but I scared you.
I saw it for myself.
Like, not only I saw it for myself,
like I said, I experienced it.
Like, you know,
because I don't want to call a person poor
or, you know, less fortunate, you know.
But he's my friend
because I don't judge any of my friends
based on anything financial
because, you know,
they say you
get to heaven based upon things that you could do for people that they can't do back for you so I
take pride in having people that I can do but when I was doing a certain thing and I was you know
taking care of them get them drunk doing everything and he was like but you didn't post it on social
media that hurt me so much and I looked at it I looked at him as if like, yo, what?
None of this matters?
And that's when I realized sometimes if it doesn't happen on Instagram, it doesn't actually happen.
That is considered currency right now.
Yeah.
So it didn't matter what I did.
Like, I did some fly shit.
Shapshot, like all that.
Like, you know, just come on. Let's just shut up. But you didn't. I didn't matter what I did, but I did some fly shit Chefs are like all that like, you know, just said come on. Let's just shut and but what you need I didn't want to post it like I was there a
Time of my life. I just didn't want to post myself or anything same
Same completely get it. I think this
She's the cannanoids.
And also.
Give her that bag of cannades. What is this? This is all marijuana?
Yeah, all cannades stuff.
It's not marijuana, marijuana.
Give it to your friends.
Can I fly with this?
It's not actually marijuana.
It's CBD.
You're good.
I'm still putting this in it.
Yes.
Can I use pass me now?
I've been asking.
Yes, there you go.
I love how you say, you know, smoke.
We're taking all the smoke.
I love it.
I'm taking all the smoke.
I got company coming in.
Hybrid.
Y'all got some sativa just regular.
We got regular raw flour too if you want, girl.
I'm not advanced.
I'm not that advanced.
But I'm going to take one shot in the light of you and rap
shit for you because in celebration as a rapper as a rapper ex-rapper. Nah, you a rapper, bro. Naming rap shit
is some bullshit.
Oh.
So I really looked
and I wanted to make sure
it was some rap shit.
I knew I was like,
man, you made it
some rap shit.
Yeah, I want to keep watching
but I appreciate you
even saying that
for the first two episodes.
Thank you.
No, I loved it.
So can we give us a hint
of what's happening
on three or four?
Because my, remember, this will come out the week after next.
So, baby, by the time, when does the third episode drop?
The episodes drop every Thursday.
Every Thursday.
6 p.m. Pacific.
Okay, so I have something to do on Thursday.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right, cool.
And Dream Chance drops on Thursdays on Revolt TV.
Let's go.
So, please accomplish more.
Let's do back-to-back parties.
So, give us episode three.
Episode three I really love because it just broadens the perspective.
Like, it helps to connect the dots between what you saw in the first two episodes.
We follow certain characters.
And it just makes the world wide of, like, Miami and these particular people.
And it'll make sense for the whole season.
So I hope people check it out.
Well, I'm checking it out. All motherfuckers get we open another bottle just because yes okay okay okay okay yeah my
people right after you Lisa I'm going to be honest.
I really appreciate what you're doing for the culture.
Thank you.
What you're doing for us.
What you're doing for everything that you're doing outside.
Come on.
Salud.
Thank you.
Now they get to play.
Can't wait to go home and call.
I called so many people.
So many people said,
so many people said,
that is a real one.
And not only is she a real one,
she cares about people.
She cares about helping people.
She cares about taking care of people.
We are.
And I kid you not,
in this six years,
I believe we did it.
Yeah, six years of drink jams.
The amount of people
that called me and said,
do you know how many
things she's done for this person and this person
and this person and this person? And I was like,
where's that at? Where can I Google that?
It's like, that's the thing.
She doesn't even give a fuck about that.
That's the most honorable shit in the world
Because
Most people is like this
I just bought him a Frank
He got him a glizzy
And they selfie in it
They selfie in it
Because they want that
You know what I mean
People are giving people bums
They're giving bums
A hundred dollars and saying
Look
You good
And they thinking that they
They look good for that.
We know that you're doing that for clout.
We know that you're doing it.
You have your phone in your face.
We know that.
And they'll be like, but I don't do this for the gram.
Yes, you do.
And to hear the amount of people that said,
yo, you know what she did?
Yeah, you know what she did?
No, but wrong.
And I was just so impressed.
And like I said, most of the shit that people told me, I'm not going to say because if I say it, I know that they're going to know.
Motherfucker, I didn't tell you to say that.
And I'm just so impressed.
And the thing about it is, I think I learned this word in London.
Cheerio.
Cheerio.
Cheerio.
Because you deserve it.
You deserve a salute.
You deserve everything.
I want you to continue to do what you do.
Keep monkey footing through this game, stomping on it.
Be the gum under the table.
I know there's no gum under the table, but you know what I mean.
You know that shit be sticking there.
We clear this table.
We clear this table.
I see.
Continue to be that.
And guess what?
We're motherfucking proud of you.
Thank you so much.
And this is your platform.
Whenever you want to come over here, you want to promote pink toenails.
You want to promote rubber bands.
You know what I'm saying?
We don't give a fuck what you want to promote.
We're going to stand here and promote with you.
We're going to hold the product up.
We're going to do whatever we got to do.
Because you know why?
Issa Rae, you are now a drink champ.
And you are a legend.
And we would love For you to continue
To do what you gotta do
Thank you so much
Taking a picture
Now I gotta wash my hands
Let's go to the bathroom first
Don't mix that drink
Hit it straight
Can't sober up now it's too late Don't mix that drink, hit it straight Can't sober up now, it's too late
Don't mix that drink, hit it straight
Can't sober up now, it's too late
I drink Japanese whiskey, Habiki
Preferably, Yamazaki 18
Definitely, I still got ya
Like Ugaracha, spending big money since Big
Hey, who shot ya?
Timing is everything, so why you gotta whack watch?
I got security and snipers on the back blocks
They dig in keto when I'm saying one mil a day
Ain't talking factor when I'm talking one mil a day
Could probably double it by leaving out the country
But Royal G's keep my ass home, I'm happy monthly
They insecure like Issa Rae, I interview with Issa Rae
Smoke blunts, think it's the hips that be on Lisa Rae
Don't mix that drink hit it straight
can't sober up now
it's too late
don't mix that drink
hit it straight
can't sober up now
it's too late
come and drink with me
get live
you really should
get drunk too
come and drink with me
get live
tell all your girls
to come through
till I'm really happy I'm really yappy really drinking your juice cause yo I drink Come and drink with me Tell all your girls to come through
Sly I'm really happy I'm really yappy
Really drinking your juice cause yo I drink Pappy
Van Winkle my suits don't wrinkle Always had to piss I never had to twinkle
Nori masculine catch me at the Magilin Big boy trucks and them big boys we handlin'
I see they claiming that they rich till the bill come
Then they acting it all I got them like they children.
A new life to me.
New life to me.
The leather seat is cocaine.
A whole new white to me.
I see they copy me.
Without a gun, it's still a robbery.
Drink champs is an anomaly.
Don't mix that drink.
Hit it straight.
Can't sober up now.
It's too late.
Don't mix that drink.
Hit it straight.
Can't sober up now. It's too late don't mix that drink it is straight can't sew up now it's too late
come and drink with me you really should get drunk too come and drink with me
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