Drink Champs - Episode 329 w/ B2K

Episode Date: September 2, 2022

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we talk with the one and only B2K!We are joined by J-Boog (aka Boogie P), Raz-B & Lil’ Fizz as they share the journey of B2K! The ...guys talk about their hit records, working with artists like Diddy, R.Kelly and more!The group also talks about their brotherhood before the fame, their on going issues with Omarion and much much more!Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise for B2K!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆   Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com  Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps  DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions  N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreaga   Check out our Culture Cards NFT Project by joining The Culture Cards Discord! Link below 👇 https://discord.gg/theculturecardsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:06 And when we talk about legends of legends, when we talk about groups, you know, sometimes I think of like, you know, like that, like that, like that. put together if they were black mixed with the Jackson 5 and New Edition you would get this group that I'm talking about. Hold on let me look let me bring up how many awards cause they got awards yes. Hold up nigga send me the complicated. They got viewers choice awards. Nickelodeon kids awards.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Soul Train awards. They got all type of awards. They were out here I'm talking about when you talk about boy man they were boy awards. They got numerous type of warts. They were out here. I'm talking about when you talk about boy band, they were boy, yo, whoa. They got numerous hits and hits. I woke up last night with a good friend of mine, one of my dear friends, Cardan, hit me to the day land.
Starting point is 00:04:55 I said, Cardan, for real? And I'm going through the list, and I just couldn't sleep because I'm listening to the show. I'm like, damn, I remember this. I remember this. These niggas got hits after hits after hits. And we're going to show them they respect.
Starting point is 00:05:06 We're going to give them they flowers today. In case you don't know who the fuck we talking about. Talking about Bookz, Lil Fizz, and Razzby. Beat to Motherfucking Cat! Yeah, we drink. Nah, I ain't going to lie. Y'all niggas got some hits, bro. I was sitting back like, whoa.
Starting point is 00:05:26 So, let's take it from the beginning because obviously, you know, the elephant in the room is B2K was a four-man group, right? So, right now, we have B2K, but it's a three-man group. But let's not talk about the breakup or everything or anything like that right now.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Let's talk about the beginning. How did y'all actually form together? How did B2K become B2K? Shit, you got to tell them that. Yeah, man. So I was eight years old, and moms took me to a black history expo. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:55 And they had this group on stage, and they reminded me of like Criss Cross. I was hella into Criss Cross. Did they have to do Inside Out? Nah, they just had on big jerseys, jeans. Okay. And I was like, man, mom, I I was like man mom I want to watch him I want to watch him and she was like all right so we sat there we watched him and then we left and when we walked into this hallway this lady came running up after my mom
Starting point is 00:06:16 she said excuse me excuse me oh my god your son is so adorable what's your name I'm like Drew she's like do you rap or sing and I was like yeah I rap and she was like, Drew. She's like, do you rap or sing? And I was like, yeah, I rap. And she was like, okay, my mom's looking like, you rap? And I'm like, yeah. She's like, all right, well, let's take your info. Is this LA? Is this LA? Yeah, this is LA.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Okay, cool. So she had me come to this crib where I basically auditioned. And at the time, it was two other members. It was Jhene Aiko's older brother and this other dude that um just random singer and um that was the group for a minute and we kept going through different members until I was 12 so four years later I'm not good so then what happened tell us what happened from there oh yeah so yeah I met you yeah I'm a kid when I was 12 I was playing football at the time and my mom was babysitting the manager's niece and so I'm coming home from school get ready for football practice she picking up the little baby from the daycare right and she like question. She asked him like can you sing?
Starting point is 00:07:26 Yeah, can you dance? I've been dancing since I was from my head like I want your audition for this group No, I mean this do first thing I do when I walk in the room. He watching The Simpsons. I'm a wrestler fan I'm saying? So I auditioned for him, and they debated, and they was like, yeah, yeah, he good. He could be in the group or whatever. And then this nigga comes from Ohio. Cleveland? Because y'all both from L.A.?
Starting point is 00:07:56 Yeah. Okay. And then he comes from Ohio. You moved to L.A.? Yeah, well, my mom moved me to Cleveland when I was about eight and a half months. Okay. So my cousin is Chris Stokes, who pretty much formed and put the group together. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:08 And I was like the fifth member to get added to a group that was called Melodic, which was kind of awkward because you got four cats and I'm like the fifth guy. But, you know, my cousin had some relationships in the business, you know what I'm saying, through previous success and was able to give us an opportunity to open up some doors for us. That group was called? Melodic. It was Melodic. It was Melodic. So it was five of you. He was the open up some doors for us. That group was called? Melodic. It was Melodic.
Starting point is 00:08:26 It was Melodic. So that was five of you. He was the fifth member. Yeah. Okay. You had a star in five. Okay, let's go. Yeah, so we been here, nigga.
Starting point is 00:08:34 So then how did y'all, how did this form to be 2K? So we performed for every label you could think of. And how many was all of you at this time? 13. 13. Yeah, 12, 13. So we performed for every label. They closed the door on our face. Like, nah, we ain't messing with it. We got to Sony, to Epic, and we performed for them like three times.
Starting point is 00:08:55 And we was like, we keep performing for them, they gonna sign us? Like, what's up? Who was the head of Epic at that time? Damian Fierce. Okay, Damian Fierce. Shout out to Max Goose. Yeah, Max Goose ran the play, though. He was the one that ran the play and got Dave McPherson in. So we went performing for them
Starting point is 00:09:12 for the third time, and they told us after the meeting that they were like, yo, we like these three, but these two look a little too old to be in the group. We didn't have mustaches or nothing. They already looked like grown men.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Wait, who the two they talking about? Jhene Aiko's older brother. And now she, another guy actually works for the company that's her manager. That's her manager, yeah. So niggas do eat. Oh! So they started a whole nother group called Final Four.
Starting point is 00:09:40 And it was us three. And Chris Stokes found Omarion through through his family. Yeah, so He came into play and then we started performing again for every label. Now it's four y'all. Yeah. Okay, and y'all still, what was it called? Melodic? No, it was it was Boys Next Door, Boys Next Door, B&D Yo, we changing names, but we need to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:10:03 B&D selling it hard though. That's the hard way to call it, B and D. Yeah. B and D. We need to figure it out. We gotta change the performance. B and D sounded hard though. That sounded hard. That ain't hard, B and D, man. Go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead. We performed for every label again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Nobody was rocking with us. And then we got to LaFace. Babyface. Yeah. Yes. And L.A. Reid. L.A. Reid. We performed for L.A. And he.A. Reid We performed for L.A. And he was like
Starting point is 00:10:26 Up in the air about it He didn't really know If he wanted to do it or not But Lil Silas Was president of A&R at the time Yeah rest in peace Lil He um He was fighting for us
Starting point is 00:10:37 He was like Nah I'ma get him to sign y'all Right So he called one day And was like Yo I got the deal done But y'all need to change y'all name And he said And we was like Well what's the name he was like y'all
Starting point is 00:10:48 should call yourselves b2k boys of the new millennium right now. That's very simple to explain. Rest in peace, Lord Silas. Well, but I thought that was some complicated, yo, that's kind of crazy. So yeah, so that's how we got the name and then when Lil passed away,
Starting point is 00:11:13 our deal was off the table. Wow. Off the table. So, L.A. Reid was like, nah, I'm not rocking with it. Wow.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Every label pretty much felt like we needed a stronger vocalist. Wow. So we circled back around to Epic with Max Goose. Keep in mind, we did go around the industry with B2K. We did the same run with B2K that we did with Melodic. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Oh, we took my art. With the labels. To Motown. Wow. We did the same run again with the new group. Wow. And that's what they were saying. They were saying they still felt like we needed a stronger vocalist. So I don't know if you remember the R&B group Third Story.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Third Story, a little bit. I think I pick-a-popped something there. They had a lead singer. His name was K-Young. Little Man. They called him Little Man at the time. So they presented putting him in the group. He got in the group for a month yeah we recorded a demo and we performed for for epic again and they said we still don't like it
Starting point is 00:12:18 it was like the thing that happened with that is that like you just need to take a drink man they got me depressed Hold on so they take fun on you again. It's the second time they put it on you Okay, we need to get here. Let's go. Yeah, and they asked like our management at the time asses like what y'all want to do, you know like We was like man. We don't want this nigga in our group. He fucked up not like that I like that Beach okay went from a lot of where we couldn't do what we wanted to do like as performers because the other two guys wasn't Dancers like that, right?
Starting point is 00:12:58 So we got oh in the group and no little man yet and we are a dynamic Performing like literally before the destiny child in the living room at the the crib and they were like yo y'all are unbelievable right so you What the fuck? How the fuck you get the performance from the Destiny's Child? Who's in the room? Who's in the room? Chris Stokes, our manager at the time. He was doing business with Destiny's Child. You know, the Immature was producing and they produced a few records on... They Say My Name. Let's just be clear for people that don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:38 The Immature was a dude with the patch in the eye. That's the group that did it. It was like ghetto boys in reverse. Not really, but okay. nigga be full, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at him. Look at him. Move your hair back to the side.
Starting point is 00:13:48 You know what I'm saying? Let's go. Yeah, so we was at the crib, and Destiny's Child came by. And they was like, yo, this is our new group. We want them to perform for you. So we performed for them in the living room. We might have had as much space as this table. And we was in there getting it.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Every step. We back flipped everything. Back flipped. Right there. Boom. Yeah, yeah. this table yeah and we was in there getting every step back flipped everything back flip right there so so um yeah we we we were a four-minute shots lined up hold on hold on they act like they're like they act like they don't know where we are this is my regular drink but i think it's shot too come on the thing was I think it's time to We gotta shot you a drink I'm gonna drink in the shot. It's not good enough going crazy man. We celebrate
Starting point is 00:14:47 Before we get this is started. I watched that Chris Brown shit. Okay. I can't shoot that nigga was shooting him shots. Like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah It's a little limo There's a crazy fast limo so It wasn't that little man fucked up our group, you know say it's just that he bothered the performance aspect We couldn't again go as no we just couldn't go as far as like the high performance others because of his limitation in the dance world You know, I can't think of a dance singer wasn't busting backflips. No more. No more. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Exactly. It was different. Y'all recording music at the same time and shopping demos or it's just auditions? No, we recorded demos. Okay. Everything. So every iteration of the group was recording new music? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Yeah. Full projects, like packaged and everything, ready to go. Shots to the label. And y'all was working. Man. Dude. And so we did that last performance. They didn't like it. And Max was working. Man, dude. And so, we did that last performance. They didn't like it.
Starting point is 00:15:47 And Max was like, I'm fighting. I'm going to tell them to just do it with the four. And we was about to get dropped from our management. They was like, if y'all niggas don't get the deal, it's over. Like, we're not working no more. We gave y'all everything. We gave y'all everything. Y'all had it like breakfast.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Yeah. Word. People think R&B groups just... Nah. Especially back then. Y'all put the escrow in y'all head. You had it like rappers. Yeah. Word. People think like R&B groups just. Nah. Especially back then. Y'all put the escrow in y'all head. Y'all get signed. That's what people think.
Starting point is 00:16:10 You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, because I got pulled out of school right when I made the basketball team in high school. I didn't even get to go to the first practice. If I missed too many days, it was going to kick me out. So I had to check myself out and redo the whole first semester of high school. Right. Anyways, they said, Max said he was going to fight for just the four.
Starting point is 00:16:32 So he goes, talks to Dave, Dave McPherson. He sets up a performance for us in New York for Tommy Mottola and Pauly Anthony. Woo. So this is it. Was Tommy Mottola drinking Polly Anthony. Whoo. She got so this is it. We like what's not me. We told her drinking wine Nah, nah, he came in like like Tony Soprano So we get out there we go to SR
Starting point is 00:17:07 I don't like line, but I I fucking fuck it. I fuck it. It's B2K. We in the building tonight. I like Lyme. We in the building. A lot of niggas want to let go. That's right. You know?
Starting point is 00:17:16 That's right. Let me let you finish. Don't let them finish. Tommy Mottola, yeah. So we go to SIR Studios. I was at SIR yesterday. We stayed yesterday. We like, yo, this is it.
Starting point is 00:17:24 We got to put on the show of our lifetime. You know? So we go to SIR studios. I was at SIR yesterday. And we like, yo, this is it. Like, we got to put on the show of our lifetime, you know? So he come in there. Polly is in there. She's like, we got to wait on Tommy. We got to wait on Tommy. He gets in there. And we looking at him.
Starting point is 00:17:37 We like, how you doing? Nice to meet you. He's like, all right, go perform. Right. So we get up there. We do three songs. We jumping on speakers, doing backflips, grinding on poly-Anthony, everything we could do, you know, we pulled up. And we finished the last
Starting point is 00:17:54 song, we were standing there, he said, it's done, I'm signing y'all. And he walked out. And we was like, yo, we got a deal, we got a deal. Like, we was celebrating after that. I feel like we got to take a shot today. I ain't gonna lie. Whoa Come on, no, I just stopped drinking. It's okay. We celebrate it's not cool drinking Triggers a whole nother thing. It's just called celebrating. You gotta feed it to the people. It's called celebrating. I'm a poor. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Cheers, cheers for this. You in? I'm coming, I'm coming. Come on. Yeah, bro. I guess we all in there. Oh yeah, I'm worried for Brad. Yeah, that's a celebration.
Starting point is 00:18:39 That was 1999. Yeah. Cheers. So look, come on, you can do that. Let's do it. All right. Cheers, cheers. Because y'all good? Y'all good? Y'all good? Let's be clear. Did y'all see the verses? Yeah, so I look come on you do it
Starting point is 00:18:49 Did you see the verses Yeah, of course everybody saw the verses. I thought it was amazing This guy but stop Okay, so we getting into the verses. Did you ever perform with watermelon before? Watermelon? No. Okay, that was some new shit. That went until like the second millennium.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Okay, cool, my bad. Oh, you did, you have done this. No, that was the second millennium tour. Okay. We wasn't on that. Yeah, we weren't on that, okay. No, no. Okay, so y'all have to quit.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Y'all watching verses. Let's do it. Oh, no, so if you asking about the verses, we gotta start, because we heard about it before it was happening right before the promo even happened for we knew about it But Ray J's close friends like pleasure Pete pretty Ricky we fuck with all of it So they like yo we doing versus y'all niggas showing up y'all coming like they trying to figure out What's up to get they set straight you for me to see if y'all coming out with Omar you're right because that be a T code I've admitted that They set straight. You feel me? To see if y'all coming out with Omarion. Right. Cause that be a T-code. That'd be a L.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Right. So that's what y'all coming out with. I ain't gonna lie. I thought I saw y'all. That's how crazy it is. So. Did you really? Well, I did.
Starting point is 00:19:52 I did. I was like, bitch, look at him came out. Niggas was like, no, you high as hell. Nah, we did a little funny game that was played. That was some like, you know. So we, we like, yeah, yeah, we heard about it. You know, I don't know. We don't know what's yet ray like y'all y'all should come out with me yeah i'll bring y'all out you know that's right ray like i'll bring y'all out you know jump on the live with me real quick you know let's let's
Starting point is 00:20:17 go viral so we like just waiting to hear hear something you feel me like if not then cool, you know go do your thing We get a car. I feel like I should call max goose right now call max goose called us No, we believe you just keep you over the story. Okay, keep going. We'll get back to him Did you know why the next goose calls us? He's like yo, what y'all feel about doing versus? We was like in the Marty doing versus he like Yeah, like what y'all feel about coming maybe do a couple songs with him beats. Okay. It was like, isn't Omari doing verses? He's like, yeah, like, what y'all feel about coming maybe do a couple songs with him, B2K? We was like, it's a conversation, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:50 we could talk about it if the business right, you know what I mean? It's just, why not? Now keep in mind, he's like, I'm working on placing O's new music at a label, and I heard that y'all was talking about possibly doing an album as a three. That's what we- It would be a great moment to show y'all was talking about possibly doing an album as a three That's what we it would be a great moment to show y'all reconcile He could get the push for his new album
Starting point is 00:21:10 Y'all could get the clarity that y'all doing our message to three and it'll be like a cool little premiere for everything You know what I'm saying? Right Alright So He's like, you know, Michelle's cool with it, which is O's manager. Okay We like word because you know every time we hear back from her it's like, you know, Michelle's cool with it, which is O's manager. Okay. And we're like, what?
Starting point is 00:21:25 Because, you know, every time we hear back from her, it's like flat. And who say Michelle's cool with it? Max. Okay, okay. So we're like, you know what? We'll jump on the car. Let's talk about it. So we get on the car the next day.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Us three, Max, and Michelle. O won't talk to us for some reason you know it's been like this 20 plus years i thought it just you nah nah it's been like this for good because they do not since the group was broken up it's been like this okay um so we all on the phone and max says to play and she goes so you want me to go back to Amari and ask him to share his versus stage with B2K to do bump bump bump and we're like absolutely not yeah I had to interject right there and set the record who said wait okay she got on the phone thinking we she was thinking that the whole thing was that we had contacted Max like yo Max We heard O was doing the verses. Can we get a piece of that? You know I'm saying stage It'll make sense for him
Starting point is 00:22:30 It makes sense for us And she like so y'all want me to go back and talk to O and tell him That y'all want to come and perform with him on his verses and I'm like wait wait wait nah nah that shit ain't like that Let me clarify it Max just called us and asked us part which I was trying to get done Did it give you a more? Trying to uh Would we be interested will we be up to support his battle against Mario and come out and give him a cheat code? You wanna see let her know like when you go talk to him don't come at it
Starting point is 00:23:04 Like we asking him to perform for him No, so rightfully so can proceed properly That his management came up with this idea the guys trying to place his music came up with this idea For the benefit of him not us coming to say yo broker We get like five minutes out of your verses bro because we trying to do something you know what i'm saying so it was like and mind you max said michelle's cool with it meaning that's michelle's this is mario man when we got on this call so now that's a clear bar who's mac max goose max goose okay okay okay my bad okay cool but yeah
Starting point is 00:23:41 the shots yeah okay yeah i mean so you know you gotta tell the people, you know, I know people, you know what I mean? So, he said she was cool with this. She got on the call acting as if she had no idea what the call was about. Wow. But it was like, yo, you got on the call, you knew what this was about from the jump. Right, right. So, she goes, well, it's unfortunate that I sound like a broken record, but I can't bring any B2K opportunities to Omari until you guys sign off on past business. So, we did a whole millennium tour, right?
Starting point is 00:24:16 Everybody had cameras. You know, we all had cameras recording backstage. I'm taking a shot. Taking the show and everything. You should get real, man. I'm taking a shot for y'all i suggest y'all join me but this shit is real i ain't gonna lie this is real like i thought rappers go through it i had no idea continue sir so we are you know like i said got cameras and everything we're using our footage and posting it on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:24:47 You know, doing little stuff for YouTube. Because it was discussed. I always got to go. I'm like the lawyer. I'm like this, this, this. We discussed that nobody was going to monetize off the footage that we was using. And if we decided to, we was going to come together collectively and make the decision for the best of the group. You know what I'm saying? Also, you know I've been on love and hip-hop for eight years
Starting point is 00:25:07 now so Mona Scott came in and she you know knew about the tour and I was filming at the time she's like yo we wanna can we you know try to do something with a documentary for the tour? Let's put something in play. Owen and his team come back. We don't want to do anything with Mona Scott. Nothing. So there goes that. So we're like, all right, we're not doing a doc. Because he was in Love & Hip Hop as well.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Right. For two seasons. Okay, cool. So we said, all right, well, we're not doing a doc. Everybody just have their footage. It was discussed that we could use the footage to promote the tour to generate more ticket sales That's what the footage was. Okay. Okay to be used It was clear to be used for that
Starting point is 00:25:50 You know me if you want to post something that was live from the show a moment where a fan did some crazy backstage Fun moments with other artists on the tour, you know said promo for this is verbal They all said this I was ready. No, it's my verbal agreement that we sat down with and we talked about Okay, cuz I was saving this for later, right? But I just feel like we did right is really we're there right? What was that an issue? You know cuz I've heard the beginning that's that was the important part right of us just sitting down to talk about the beginning How it all together what was the issue of the brother? What was it? All right, so so now you gotta read the letter cuz I feel like you you gotta
Starting point is 00:26:26 You said as a verse conversation because now we gonna go 15 years back 15. This is I could so initially so people that was under a rock Because everyone sees love a hip-hop and see that you were April and initially thinks that that is it right? That is not it, we're saying. Nah, nah, it's a lot. 15 years prior. Right, so 15 years prior. Okay, everybody relax.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Let's not put my seatbelt. Put on my seatbelt, let's go, uh oh. 15 years prior. Let's go. We've been doing our thing now for three years, since 2003, and we just finished filming, you guys heard. Okay. I'm dating Jennifer Freeman at the time,
Starting point is 00:27:04 the lead girl in the movie. Are we supposed to make some noise for that? I feel like. You're not gonna be there. You're not gonna be there. Continue, continue, continue. I'm gonna make my drink stronger. You're taking that shot or what man?
Starting point is 00:27:17 Oh shit, I forgot I had a shot. Okay, you ready for your shot? I'm sorry, I'm sorry homie. These niggas got me hyped. She also was the lead girl in our girlfriend video. Girlfriend. That Will Smith was in, Vivica Fox, Fletch Alexander, Ronald Isley. We had all the top dogs in it, right?
Starting point is 00:27:32 Goddamn. So, you know, she coming home at night after the movie like, yo, you know, your boy is trying to holler at me type of thing. Like, I'm pushing him off. Like, you know, like, yo, I'm with Fizz, you know like yo i'm which i'm with this you know so i'm like yeah whatever it's nothing me and oh ben had going back and forth for girls you know what i'm saying i was it was like yeah whatever that's gonna happen you know did he knock her down no no no um so from that point we get on tour we go straight from filming the movie to scream tour three We're headlining this tour.
Starting point is 00:28:10 Scream Tour 3. Yeah, arenas. Arenas. Finger popping going on everywhere. Set the mood. Let's go. So we on tour. It's a lot. We getting word of back home. I'm here. My girl is having parties and stuff. You feel me? So we all start doing our thing on the tour. We having fun. Now, management, you know, is like, yo, y'all go back to y'all rooms. You know, the Kobe shit just happened. They trying to keep us safe. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:28:35 So, like, don't be wily. Get back to the room. Keep your mystique. Be a superstar. You feel me? But, you know, we still found our way to dancers' rooms and shit like that. Badalinas. Dancers, they call badalinas.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Let's go. Continue. I'm talking about our dancers. Oh, your own dancers. Yeah. Let's make some noise for y'all. Let's make some noise for y'all. We went to a badalina.
Starting point is 00:28:55 No, no. You got the bad girls dancing in the background. I get it. So, we on the road, and, you know, we got in conversations about the third album. And we like, yo, you know, we want Jermaine Dupri to produce our album. We want to work with him. And management is like, nah, nah, y'all got to do something different. And we like, yo, why?
Starting point is 00:29:19 Like, you know, like, what's up? Then they hit us and like, yeah, Marcus Houstonston first single was with jermaine dupree be like y'all just gave him that idea yeah huh all right come on man then it's then this goes to yo so y'all about to finish up the tour y'all gotta do seven more like fair dates like festivals okay um so y'all could bring home some money you. Y'all didn't make no money on this tour. Y'all went into y'all guarantee. Damn. But y'all going to be mad when y'all get home because my new Bentley is going to be here.
Starting point is 00:29:55 I'm sorry, who's saying this? Management. Okay. So I'm like, yo, it's four of us. It's one of him. That's 20%. A hundred. Where's our Bentleys? I'm taking a. That's 20%. A hundred. That's.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Where's our business? I'm taking a shot for your family. Where's my business? So right then and there on the bus, us four. All speaking in confidence. Confidentiality. Okay. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:30:25 We got to come up with a plan. We got to lead a situation. This is like NWA. You seen the NWA movie? Mm-hmm. This is what it feels like. Jerry Heller? Jerry Heller, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:32 This is what it feels like. We got to get out of this. Shout out. You know, so when we get back to Cali, we ain't going back to the houses that they bought us. Right. We go to our parents' crib, chill, find a lawyer, figure this shit out. Right. We go to our parents' crib, chill, find a lawyer, figure this shit out. All right.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Well, we get back to L.A. And a bug hit me. He's like, bro, I need you to meet me at the crib. I need to grab some clothes. I'm running short. I'm like, all right, meet him up there. Grab his clothes. We leave in the house.
Starting point is 00:31:01 O walks in. He's like, yo, what you doing here? He's like, yeah, I'm about to go. I'm about to go to the movies with the boys. We're like, what? He's like, yeah, I'm about to go to the movies. We're like, nah, bro, that's not the plan. Like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:31:16 He's like, man, y'all should talk to them. Y'all should just talk to them. We're like, nah, man. So we leave. You want management? Yeah. You're going to the movies with management. So we leave. We had a conversation.
Starting point is 00:31:24 You know what I'm saying? Y'all agreed to separate yourself in that situation so we leave and the next night that night we get a call from the production company telling us we got a meeting at uh this spot called fat effects downtown la for an overseas tour get up the next morning go down there there. They seem a little weird. And they like moving fast and funny. They like, yeah, we're going to meet around the corner. We follow them around the corner to like some tow yard truck field. Like it's dirt. Look, just got a car wash.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I'm like, bro, don't pull all the way in. Like, you just got your shit washed. We hop out. It's hella weird, though. Get out the car and they like, management and O standing right there in like a half circle. And they like, you wanna start, you wanna start. And then management like, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:32:11 This shit is over. B2K's a rat. That nigga right there, he's solo. All y'all need to do is come film, record the rest of these songs for the You Got Served soundtrack and do the videos and that's it. We don't need nothing else from y'all. Okay, come on Come on, first of all, this is your cousin, correct?
Starting point is 00:32:28 Yeah, okay. Wait, tell me something had to happen. Come on. Let's go. I'm getting to it. All right Yeah, so we wanted to renegotiate me wanted Okay We was on the tour We had a date, mind you, we on these festivals. This is strong. I broke the camera's back. What's the strong, goddamn it?
Starting point is 00:32:51 We at the festival. You brought out a snitch in the neighborhood. And we get some drinks. I don't do no snitch on that. We get some drinks. Poor shot, man. Poor shot. Poor shot.
Starting point is 00:33:01 We got shot. Hey. Poor shot for the performance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Poor shot for the performance. Get your shot. Your bottle right there. Your bottle right there. Your bottle right there. I'm a push-up The camels back I'm searching for this draw all night Salud, salud. There you go. Go ahead, go ahead. Let me say this. I'm going to switch. So, we get some drinks. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Like we're doing right now. And then we go to Applebee's, and we get some more drinks. Uh-huh. And we're talking about the tour. We're just talking about everything that happened. Now, mind you, we all got a plan to leave. We together, we brothers. You feel me? Like, yeah, we about to go get this bag now.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Mm. So we like, yeah, nigga, what was you, what was happening? I was like, man, I was smashing, I was smashing that girl the whole tour. I really liked her, bro. And I'm like, bro, that's not your girl. I'm like, what's up? your girl like what's up you cool? Yeah, man, he go to the bathroom come back like all right. I'm talking about. Oh grab his stomach He was passing his girls for this one
Starting point is 00:34:18 This was a random change this is a random that was a roll with us one of the dancers somebody on the road with us. One of the dancers? Somebody on the road with us. So when we got back and we had this meeting in a dirt field and they telling us this shit is over, they go in to say, we know about y'all wanting to leave. We know about y'all wanting to get out of y'all deal and and do your own thing i know about you fucking such and such i'm like you a bitch ass nigga that's management saying so he didn't went back and told him everything we discussed about leaving
Starting point is 00:35:00 them about leaving them. Ooh, ooh, ooh, because y'all had no more time. Because he told him about the girl. I said, tell him the truth. That's what he said. I broke the camel's back. I was telling him about the snitch. So he went back
Starting point is 00:35:11 and snitched on us. That's what the snitch in the nigga. That's what I'm saying. That piece right there was like, I'm telling. So, that was that. That's how,
Starting point is 00:35:22 that's how this shit originally ended, right? And then, we still playing our part. We doing our You Got Served parts in the studio. We going to film the video. We do the Bada Boom video. That meet was like You Got Served right there. Yeah, we got served.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Yeah, they got served right there. That's crazy. That's crazy. So, after You Got Served, we did all the video and everything. There was nothing else there. They basically shelved us. We couldn't do nothing. But let me ask y'all for one second.
Starting point is 00:35:57 And I would like all three of y'all to be honest. Were y'all really friends at one point? I mean, bro, we literally each had nothing. And y'all lived together at one point? I grew up in a house with like eight people in a two-bedroom apartment on Slauson in Angeles Vista. Wow. He grew up on 10-5. He grew up in Compton.
Starting point is 00:36:18 We literally, like I didn't meet my dad until I was 13. I didn't have my dad. His dad was in and out. He didn't have his dad. O didn't know his dad. We had each other You feel me we was we was Glowing at this shit to beat you came with our house Because this is what I'm saying, right? I just understand when you look at like stories like what Wu Tang clan, right? I they did this is a known fact that Ray and Ghost at some point had a problem, but they had other members who came in and kind of like try to fix it or try to do what they try to do.
Starting point is 00:36:51 My thing is, because it sounds like I'm just saying that as an outsider looking at it, like he blamed you for like fucking the random chick that he had. Right. So. But why would he take it out on these two? I can see him being mad at you. I saw the devil in the details when we was having conversations about leaving management. And the nigga kept saying, solo artists make more money. Solo artists make more money. Oh, he had the Bobby Brown. He went to Bobby Brown.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I think I know. He was already a solo artist. And he had, I mean, he said it from the jump. He used to tell us like, yo, don't tell that nigga nothing, man. Don't tell him nothing. Wait, what? Let's do it like this. He had, you know, O had some success coming into the group prior to us, right?
Starting point is 00:37:30 So he kind of felt like he always. Because he was the cousin, right? Nah, nah. But he was like the outskirts of the three of us. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like we all, like, locked in. You know, when we put B2K together, we was a dance. It was all for but she never we never hated on dude If that was the case, we would have went with little man in the group
Starting point is 00:37:51 But you feel me like now he was like now wanted to be us for we don't want this nigga in the group So nobody ever hated on dude you feel me? It was hard for us for a long time to see like where's where's all the hate coming from What's that? I think it's crazy what he said then they got shelved cuz then be okay as a group was still signed exactly He's gonna go solo. So now y'all gotta wait out this contract. Okay, but but let's clarify Let's put us to clarify shelf Right because I think there was no streaming. There was no internet. There was no YouTube
Starting point is 00:38:24 We're giving the whole thing. A lot of people call this a witness on this show. They call it blackboard Back then there was no streaming, there was no internet, there was no YouTube where people was posting what they wanted to. But a lot of people call this, on this show, they call it blackball. No, no, no, it's a different thing. This is not blackball. This is a different thing. This is a different thing. Explain to the people who asked.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Now, I'm going to tell you, it wasn't blackball because after the group broke up and we were all out there dolo, I met Kuda Love. Kuda Love from up above just pulled me to the game that's been my manager since then right why Kuda got all type of relationships you feel me right so I wasn't blackball but it was nothing we could do contractually contractually you know explain it to them and mind you when B2k before our first album came out david pherson gave me a solo deal david pherson yeah okay and so after the group was
Starting point is 00:39:16 broken up i still was signed to sony and to tug so i couldn't kDA couldn't do nothing with me till we figured that out, you know? And years later then came the release and then we had a situation where we talked to Sony with Lisa Ellis, she came in after Damian Ferson was done. It was just a whole obstacle, you know? And then it was a whole new game at that point. They wasn't messing with artists and putting money behind them, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:39:42 Yeah, Sony, BMG, Columbia and all them, they merged. All the new players had new interests in their artists who they wanted to be responsible for. They didn't want to go reincarnate any of the artists that they already had. That's crazy, man. Yeah, yeah. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration
Starting point is 00:40:03 in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it. I'm J.R. Martinez. I'm a U.S. Army veteran myself, and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Honor Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Podcast. From Robert Blake, the first Black sailor to be awarded the medal, to Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice. These are stories about people who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor, going above and beyond the call of duty. You'll hear about what they did, what it meant,
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Starting point is 00:44:12 or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glod. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug man.
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Starting point is 00:45:14 and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Are we ready for a quick time of silence? Let's get on with the flowers. You know what? We need y'all to know that our show is about giving people their flowers. So many people want to say how great you are. If something happened to you, your car accident,
Starting point is 00:45:37 I want to say that while y'all are alive, healthy, and in your face. You know how great y'all are. We appreciate that. We got excited, man. You know what I mean? My man, Cardad, called me. I said, really? For sure? They want to come to the show? And we want to get y'all flowers. You know how great y'all are. We appreciate it. We got excited, man. You know what I mean? My man, Cardan, called me. I said, really? For sure? And we want to get y'all flowers personally, man. Let's make some noise. And we're going to smoke up the room, too. And this is the other flowers. This is the
Starting point is 00:46:01 other flowers. It's the other flowers, my dad. Make some noise for the people that put in the cake. You know what I'm saying? Hey, hey, hey. I want to say something, too. I want to say something, too. Like, man, this is beautiful. You know what I'm saying? Y'all family.
Starting point is 00:46:14 And I want the people to understand this straight up. No matter what's being said on this platform right now, discussing our other group member, we're just talking about what happened yeah it's no matter we don't feel no balance if we come over here i need a little bit if we're speaking about what happened yeah there's gonna be some negativity in in the story because we're talking and keeping it 100 with you but coming to present day even if we fight you feel me like bro we still love that you know what i'm saying and i'm gonna say that we fight you feel me like brother. We still love that nigga You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna say that nigga. We love you and this is not for just three
Starting point is 00:46:48 This is not just for us three. He's just not here right now But this shit is a part of him too. You know what I'm saying? And I want to make sure that that's clear Cause we ain't here to bash them nigga. That's still our bro God damn let's make some noise real quick It's just sad that we gotta go through this shit in front of everybody I mean and as an outsider looking in and seeing you know It's just sad that we gotta go through this shit in front of everybody. I mean, and as an outsider looking in and seeing, you know, cause what year y'all came out exactly?
Starting point is 00:47:12 2000. 2000. I worked at Rickards. Me and Boris, we was on the team. So I might seem fuckin' super, super older than y'all, but I actually came out in 1998, which is only two years. I mean, my solo. I was out with my group with my solo. So I got to see y'all.
Starting point is 00:47:28 I got to see y'all tear it up. Do you remember the first time we met you? God damn it no. I was hot. So look, I know the story. I know the story. Okay good. I don't, I don't, I asked Cardi the studios because I don't remember the studio but we were in New York. Hit Factory, 57th Street. Go ahead, continue. Let me tell you a story. So we got off the elevator,
Starting point is 00:47:47 and we start walking down the hallway, and you was walking down with Busta. Y'all was jeweled up. Y'all was just looking at the chains like, oh my God, do you see they chains? Yo! So we met you there, and then we was recording our remix,
Starting point is 00:48:04 our Got To Be remix with DJ clue Oh gosh to be Next door was Nellie and Pharrell right and Cardi was there we were party for the first time And we and they was doing hot in here So get back to my point my back is, is that when I seen y'all as a new group, I've never seen no breakup. Like, I've never seen any, like, kink in the armor. I don't know if y'all were, like, I don't want to say acting or if this was the, you know what I mean? But I seen y'all as brothers. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:48:39 So, like, was I fooled or? Well, see, it happened at the end. Let me say this. You didn't see nothing that was fake. Okay, yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what threw us the fuck off. Still to this day. Because that conversation was always
Starting point is 00:48:55 our set each other straight conversations. It wasn't always about just did you smash a chick. It was the moment of honesty amongst us four. No matter if it was management on the outside Parents on the outside we always had this unity of no matter who we lied to who no matter who we Didn't keep it real with nigga. We always came together damn near on a weekly You know what I'm saying because we lived upon each other how much work we was doing to always be like bro that shit you
Starting point is 00:49:20 Did yesterday I ain't like that shit that she made me punch you. Or, you know what I'm saying? Like, bro, did you see that chick that, like, I hit that. You feel me? Like, we was locker room talking like the fuck. Or shit. Or me in the hotel room.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Nigga, nah, fuck that. Let's go. Right. And they boxed. Catch a fade real quick. They boxed. In the hotel room. Like that.
Starting point is 00:49:40 We was doing real brother shit. It was just that shit. So when that moment came, it was like one of them proud moments that you accomplished knocking her down And it was like I gotta tell you niggas we having that conversation where you're supposed to say that and so I said my shit He said how y'all niggas like I don't understand this conversation So you got me I'm saying that and that was fake at least amongst us
Starting point is 00:50:01 No, you know there was feelings there we didn't know that that how we had had 17 000 of those talks right but that one straw broke the camel's back and we didn't see it coming so you didn't see nothing we had talked about millions of bro like we don't got to go that far back but he could tell you about when he dated a chick that he was fucking with. With who? Yeah, this shit ain't, like we ain't never gave a fuck like that. Yeah, I used to date a chick for a year, and then we did a tour and then he seen her, and then he started dating her for three years. Nobody cared.
Starting point is 00:50:34 I don't care. I don't care. You know, I'm not with her no more. Y'all could be life partners. Y'all could be the ones who should've met each other. Look, either here or there, nor for real, for for real because i know like you're saying this but like the with april like i made a lot of mistakes that i'm
Starting point is 00:50:51 not happy with and that's one of them you feel me so like i made amends with it i apologized publicly i knew i was wrong i gotta live with that i gotta hold that you feel me let me ask the other two members like how did let's go start with you how did you feel me? Let me ask the other two members. Like how did, let's go start with you. How did you feel when you see him with Apryl? Wow, I'll sit up here and cap, bro. I ain't gonna cap. I ain't gonna cap. You ain't gonna cap.
Starting point is 00:51:19 I told you that he was scared this morning. I don't know what's going on, but I'm not doing it. This girl. The public drag, you know, I thought, you know, maybe there was some
Starting point is 00:51:31 malice behind it or some resentment maybe. But maybe I thought also they probably really hit it off. So you never know because I know they've always dated and talked to each other's girls.
Starting point is 00:51:41 So I was like outside of looking in. So I kind of see something wrong with it. You said they always dated each other's girls. I mean, it seemed like they all kind of liked and dated each other's girls when they I was like outside of looking in. So I kind of see something wrong with it. You said they always dated each other's girls. I mean, it seemed like they all kind of like dating each other's girls when they was younger. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:51:50 So for me, as an outside- Not dated, but like the same. Like the same girl. So as an outside looking in, I wasn't really for sure, but it being his baby mother kind of made you, it made you really look at- That's also the story that blew the camera back.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Real close at it. That's another camera. That's another story. We got two cameras going. The other camera was already down. There's another camera. That's the- It makes you really look at that's also destroyed it will a camel back real close Like that like this is a whole nother camp yeah, cuz I can't already got broke How you wanna do? How you wanna do it? Book's been my best friend since the breakup, since the group, everything. He told me not to do it. You know, he was like, he asked me if I did it. He asked me if I did it in my life. You gotta hear this, bro. I think he said, I think he said, I just, please we need you cause your face expression
Starting point is 00:52:47 says you have to talk. Yes please. Because I came to this nigga bro. I came to him and I said, hey bro, you gotta keep it a hundred with me nigga. We trying to do this tour, we trying to do this shit. I'm just be, I'm just shoot straight with you. Are you fucking this nigga's baby mama? This nigga like nah man, we just friends. Yeah I watch gonna shoot straight with you. Are you fucking this niggas baby moment?
Starting point is 00:53:09 Love a hip-hop to Okay, that's after the okay my bad before can't continue I was like towards the end of the tour This is this is before but you know already you could smell it in the air. I know yeah Right. I'm just saying that this new money. I'm sitting if you want to keep it real right I don't keep it real we move boom to the tour I know you know I'm saying now. We're keeping this storyline cuz he about his business shit This is what I found out later. I'm like okay this nigga really sitting next to me on a bus small and I'm like, bro That's your game. Are you fucking this nigga baby mama right? Nah, bro. I ain't fucking nothing, right? I find out on the fucking show like everybody else.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Now, I'm steaming, nigga. I'm like, for real, nigga? I'm hot fucking mad at this nigga, right? I'm like, bro, for real, like, I don't care if you fucking with her, right? But, like, think about this. Obviously, this shit is not, like, clear and accept it and we back on this bag I think it's not the time to pray moat that shit, right? What's up? That shit pimp that shit if she don't eat off the back
Starting point is 00:54:17 She got you off that back later once it's done once it's fixed, you know I'm saying but right now Don't throw that shit in that niggas face. You know I'm saying I don't think that's adding to the possibilities I think it's like poking at the bear and kind of humiliating you know what I'm saying And that was my place with it. You know I mean, but I love over the honest Hey, that was my place with it. I was mad at motherfucker. You know me cuz I was like I was saying overseas shit I was saying Ferrari. I want it. You know I'm saying This new branch. I was seeing a Ferrari I wanted, you know what I'm saying? This new Ranch I was about to buy. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:46 I'm looking at this. Man, earlier Ferrari. Yeah. You understand? You know what I'm saying? Like, you're in the shit. Bitch, you fucked it up. Let me go.
Starting point is 00:54:54 Let me go. I ain't fucking with you. I said, we got to hold that. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, I'm not proud of you. So now, I'll ask them too. I'll ask them too. How did you feel? Two part question. When and then was it working? Because she would take digs outside right now.
Starting point is 00:55:13 She was my uncle. So look, so what was the first part of the question how did you feel when okay so so going into it you know there was a lot of resentment there from the past because he talked about his down not not because of that just because of how he did our situation like bro my whole music career was on pause for over 10 years you feel me like i couldn't move i couldn't do nothing being tied into shit. All because you went back and snitched on niggas. Wow. You feel me? So it was a lot of resentment there. Now, mind you, yeah, we came back.
Starting point is 00:55:50 We was on the first season of Love & Hip Hop together. But dude found me out the blue. Came to a studio session. I'm with Kuda and Mase at the studio. He like, where you at? I'm going to pull up on you. Out the blue. Comes there.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Talking to me like, yeah, man, it's home. I'm about to do love the hip-hop I'm like, oh, that's what's up. He like and you should get on it and I'm like I love I'm a person a everybody So so I'm like, you know, I'm not I ain't really my thing He's like, you know, just think about it. Think about it. And Kuda was also managing Tierra Marie at the time, who was on the show.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Yes. So he was like, well, I'll see, you know, what Mona talking about. So he called Mona. She's like, yeah, I want to meet him. So I go sit down with Mona, and she tell me like, yo, yeah, you know, well, I love your storyline. Omari told me all about it. And, you know, well, I love your storyline. Omari told me all about it. And, you know, like we got rid of a lot of people off the show. Joy was on there, Bauer's baby mama.
Starting point is 00:56:51 They kicked her off because she didn't have nobody to intertwine her storyline with. Neither did Omar. She was like, you know, I was about to get rid of her. She was like, you don't have nobody to intertwine the storyline with. But this is perfect. Y'all come from the same group. Y'all both got baby mamas right now because this girl was pregnant at the time, April. So I was like, you know, all right.
Starting point is 00:57:12 The bag seemed right. You feel me? Cool. I'll do it. So we did the show. And towards the end of that season, he was talking to his about his new project and what he wanted to do and i said bro like you should really i was in the boxing ring or something like that no no this was off camera okay okay okay he was like he was like bro like you know what should i do with my new music like what direction should i go in i'm like yo you know you come from b2k and our biggest hit
Starting point is 00:57:41 was bump bump bump r kelly did that i said I said, R. Kelly showed us how he did that song. He rapped it and then put a melody behind it. I said, so you're like a rap singer, bro. Go get a DJ Mustard Beat, throw a rap song on that bitch. Go crazy. He like, yeah, you think so? I'm like, yeah. So, so like maybe two maybe two three weeks later he come back with a mustard beat and a verse and a hook and it's supposed to be and I'm like this is hard bro supposed to be and I'm like this is hard he's like yeah yeah I'm gonna do something with it so I'm like all right a couple weeks later after that he come back and he got brown on it. And I'm like, oh, this is out of here, bro. You what you doing? Drop it. He like, yeah, I got to go through the business, though. So I'm like, I feel it.
Starting point is 00:58:33 He called me a couple of days later. Hey, bro, you you'll come with me to Brown House. I just got to, you know, handle some business for the record. You know, these niggas be smoking and drinking. I ain't I ain't really on that shit. I'm like, yeah, I'll roll with you, nigga. So I go up there with him. He talk to him. They figure out the business. And he got him on Post-It Beat.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Then a week later, he got Jhene on it. I'm like, bro, this shit is out of here. If you don't fucking drop this shit right now. That's what she said. Eat the booty like groceries. You got to eat the booty like groceries. All right? That's a fact. We started Drink Champs. He drops the shit. It's out she said. She eat the booty like groceries. You gotta eat the booty like groceries. All right, that's the fact. So, yes, we started Drink Champs.
Starting point is 00:59:06 He drops the shit. It's out of here. And I don't hear from him no more. Literally went in my own. And then start playing like, ah yeah, I ain't doing love and hip hop. You know, that's just like some shit I did for like the platform real quick. That's, like, that shit's light. But then tell me, like, yeah, nigga, you should do four seasons of this shit. I'm like, why you playing it like it's so, like, weak to be on this shit? You feel me? Like, what's up? Like, I'm hitting this nigga up.
Starting point is 00:59:39 No response. Reading red in the DM. No response. Like, damn, bro, what's up? I'm going on the next season talking about the group, putting the shit back together. I had a conversation with April on that season. But hold on. You said on the DM?
Starting point is 00:59:55 Yes. What? Because I don't have the nigga number. Nah, you're a friend, man. No cap. You're taking it too far. Bro, it's always been like this. Nah, it's not.
Starting point is 01:00:04 The dude comes back. Y'all don't got a group chat? The dude comes back like this. Nah, it's not. The dude comes back. Y'all don't got a group chat? The dude comes back. B2K group chat? Bro, the dude comes back. That shit ended back when they ended the group. Nah, nah. The dude comes back and uses it for leverage and then goes on his own.
Starting point is 01:00:15 That's what he does. It's been a play. It's been running for a long time. Whistle on a play. You're saying since back then, y'all have never had each other's numbers? I've never had dude's numbers. No, he's talking about- I had it.
Starting point is 01:00:33 I had it, but he- It's gone. Yeah, it's just- When he runs his plate, it's gone. I've never had his- After the split, I really didn't have nobody number but his, because we stuck together through everything all the way to this day. So, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:44 And I really didn't care to like have that you know i mean so i never really kept up with him like that he did they lived on a whole nother side of california that i didn't live on so it was it was more you know obvious so a reason for them to have each other number to be kicking it to be running into each other you know i'm saying i live a whole two hours on the other side you know what i mean i didn't really stay involved with the shit like that. You know me so that's why I had a number, you know, but him I had it for the time he needed me to have he didn't get the no When he sent out the shit to the new like this my new joint y'all start he didn't get that and he didn't get the message So literally I hadn't talked to him from that time till one day
Starting point is 01:01:24 I was at April Crib before the tour even came about conversation and he was coming to drop off his kids and he seen me sitting on the couch and I was like what's up and he just turned and walked away tried to have a conversation with him then. I'm good, come on. You just said it very nonchalantly. That he's at her crib? Let's just be clear.
Starting point is 01:01:55 But an average dude is going over to drop off his kids, and he see his group member chilling on the couch eating Cheerios. I'm going to think Baby Boy. Remember Baby Boy when Snoop called Yeah Now is you Snoop or is you Tyrese in this situation Jody I'm not the baby daddy so I'm I'm Jody
Starting point is 01:02:16 You Tyrese You Jody Well no Jody's the baby daddy Okay He is the Snoop talk that You the nigga butt nigga I'm Snoop In the kitchen Okay alright Holy shit baby daddy okay he is holy shit this is this a weird shit though because I'm
Starting point is 01:02:31 gonna let me finish I was telling you that on that next season when I was trying to put the group back together and do kept avoiding me I was it brought up brought out old feelings. Like, damn, bro, you doing this shit again? Like. But is you thinking, let me stop you for one second. Is you thinking that loving hip hop is pushing that narrative? Is he thinking that?
Starting point is 01:02:53 No, no, no, no. Okay. This is you pushing that. I created my storyline on loving hip hop. This is what I wanted to talk about. Yeah, okay. So he was, he was MIA. I'm like, yo, what's up?
Starting point is 01:03:03 Like, what's up with this nigga? So I had a conversation with April on that season and they were not together at that point. And she's like, man, you know how dude is like we after that continue to coerce because I was trying to get dude number from her so I could talk to him. She's like, I'm not giving you his number. You feel me? But through all the conversation and shit, we just became a lot of, we had a lot of shit in common because of dude. You feel me? Hurt people hurt people? Exactly. Is that kind of it?
Starting point is 01:03:33 All right, cool. So it's like, this is wild. But it's like, it's almost like you can't even really like... It was no... It was no malice. It was no... What you call that? It was no... It was no... What's the name?
Starting point is 01:03:56 Like malintention? No. Yeah. No bad intention behind it. You feel me? It happened behind... You weren't trying to throw it in his face. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:03 But I wasn't even trying to come at her like that. You feel me? But let me just be the devil's advocate looking from the outside, looking in. Maybe that was her. Not to say anything bad about her. But she knows, a female knows. Yeah. If you mess with one of these guys' best friends, that's the ultimate disrespect.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Niggas get lost in the sauce. And you can understand where he's not going to feel that. Yeah. You wouldn't feel it either. Feel what? Someone dating your baby moms that you let my baby. It's a different situation with me No, but see I know I watch the show like we're rich dollars and all that Whatever right? Um, but that's different because this is y'all brothers
Starting point is 01:04:41 Yeah, yeah to me y'all mafia to me y'all sat in the building somewhere cut y'all brothers. To me, y'all mafia. To me, y'all sat in the building somewhere, cut y'all each other's thumbs, and put it together and said, B2K, nigga, for that life. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but my point, I tried to talk to dude. Right. Like, at that point, when he seen me on the couch, there wasn't nothing going on between me and April. I was the homie over there.
Starting point is 01:05:04 And he just happened to be coming by. Bro, I tried to talk to you. I'm like, yo, what's up, O? Turn and walk away. Like, yo, what's up? What did you have on on the couch? A tank top? A tank top.
Starting point is 01:05:19 I got an ax. I'm trying to put the hostess there. This was in like the afternoon. He just got out the pool. He just got out of the pool. And he got a swim shorts. He was there. I never heard before. No, I don't know about this.
Starting point is 01:05:35 OK, we all learned something today. We learned something today. Oh, shit. Oh, this is wild. Damn, bro. This is crazy, man. We took a free toughener. So if she got play brothers and cousins a free toughen so if you got place
Starting point is 01:05:58 Holy moly I'm ready. Cut. We're about to leave our culture cards. We're about to leave our culture cards. Yeah. Buyers. Trading cards, like NFT trading cards. Oh. Yeah, man. Yeah, this Frenchie, everybody. Frenchie! Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Yeah, I feel like he like damn near a Slumdog billionaire, because somehow this nigga knows everybody. Everybody. All right, cool. So look, this is a game we play. We play with every guest. All right, cool. So look, this is a game we play. Play with every guest. We're going to ask you out multiple.
Starting point is 01:06:50 I don't want to do it with the three of them. We did it with a group a certain way last time. Okay. Did we give them each? They took turns. They took turns. They took turns. All right.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Let's do random. All right. Let's roll dice and do random. So I'm going to ask you a question. I'm going to ask you a question. If you be politically correct and say both, you got to take a shot. If you say neither, you got to take a shot.
Starting point is 01:07:14 But then, if you straight up like, the fuck did I do? Then you good. But if you take a shot, we take a shot with you. We don't leave you out there. We got you. All right. Sounds like I'm going to take a shot. Sounds like I'm going to take a shot, we take a shot with you. We don't leave you out there. Yeah, we drink it with you. We don't leave you out there. We got your back. All right, all right. Let me make a shot.
Starting point is 01:07:26 You understand? Sounds like I'm going to take a shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sounds like I'm going to take a shot. I was trying to fuck it up to the point for this shit. All right, cool. You want to set it off, E? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:34 So I'm going to go with you. Nelly or Luda? Luda. OK. Chris Brown or Usher? Luda. Okay. Chris Brown or Usher? Mmmmm. Take a shot. Why you ask me this one, bro?
Starting point is 01:07:52 It was random because of you. Damn, bro. It was random. I was looking for both of them, bro. Take a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Hey, look.
Starting point is 01:08:01 When I was a kid, I wanted to be Mike. And then I became a teenager, I wanted to be Usher. Then I became an adult, I wanted to be Chris Brown. then I became a teenager, I wanted to be Usher. Then I became an adult, I wanted to be Chris Brown. That sounds like a shot. That sounds like a shot to me all around. Y'all should take a shot too with your group members. With your group members. We can't be one.
Starting point is 01:08:15 One lose, we all lose. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. We can do it. Stick together. Stick together, Razree. Stick together with the group, god damn it. You know, AOMO is here today, man. You can't break up again.
Starting point is 01:08:24 It's gonna be one, 2K. Come on, let's rock. Let's go, let's go. Salud. I Might be my glasses out. Okay. All right, this is Calm Perfect for him. Woo, this is perfect for you. Tupac or Dizzy Hustle? Oh, man. What the? Your group gonna ride with you. Fuck, bruh. Come on, bruh. It's whatever criteria. Don't gotta be.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Whatever criteria you want. Yeah, yeah. The ride or the win. If you don't wanna take a shot, whatever criteria. I gotta go for both, man. I didn't ask the shot. That's a shot. I just knew you was gonna say nip, because we knew nip.
Starting point is 01:09:03 You know what I'm saying? I know what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. I'm justip. You know I was saying who was crying nip. Come on, come on, this is a game. Everybody pay the bill for this game, god damn it. You're going to do this. Come on. Salud, god damn it. You can do small shots.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Salud. Yeah, it's one shot together. Starting off fire. I got this one. Let's go. Ready? Random. Destiny's Child or TLC?
Starting point is 01:09:31 Oh, shit. Destiny's Child. Okay. They performed for Destiny's Child. We went on tour with them. You went on tour with them? Yeah, we went on tour with them. Yeah, Beyonce took us to dinner and made us eat caviar for the first time.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Made us eat caviar. Yeah, she said, no, she said, you need to broaden your horizons. She said, the people you're going to meet, they're not all going to be from the States. So in order to, you know, make them feel comfortable, you don't turn down their tradition, you know. So be ready to eat some shit that you're not ready for. Go ahead and eat this caviar. be ready to eat some shit that you're not ready for that's real go ahead and eat this caviar where y'all at overseas we in London took us to noble well the group that's in the chat they took us to noble together noble and London yeah and they had the caviar y'all come out
Starting point is 01:10:26 Y'all had no idea that what now I was looking at that shit and the Queen said She said it's a pilot correct. Yeah I said so my cool every, look at this nigga right here. How about I met him? He was in a West Woofin. Get your ass out of here. I was in the room looking like Malcolm X. We can't be here, slime. We got to go.
Starting point is 01:10:56 He didn't know how to move. OK. I love it. I love it. Where has he been? Randy or Monica? Randy. Damn, he ain't even wasting no time. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:11:11 My boy ain't changing. Explanation needed or you don't need to? Monica, they both called, but I grew up on Brandy. She got the eighth one. Okay. Yeah. I mean, you can say buses.. Oh yeah, yeah, you're there. Mario or Mario? Y'all like the right nigga, that one.
Starting point is 01:11:26 Yo. Only comparing dance moves or vocals. That's all y'all. You gotta say oh, man. I don't gotta say that. I don't gotta say that. I don't gotta say that. I don't gotta say that.
Starting point is 01:11:34 I don't gotta say that. I don't gotta say that. I don't gotta say that. I don't gotta say that. I don't gotta say that. I don't gotta say that. I don't gotta say that. I don't gotta say that.
Starting point is 01:11:42 I don't gotta say that. I don't gotta say that. I don't gotta say that. I don't gotta say that. I don't gotta say that. I don't gotta say that. That's all y'all. You gotta say oh man. I don't gotta say that. You're right Dave. I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm gonna have to go with Mario. If you wanna talk about what the fuck I played, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Alright, so you gotta ask the other group members. Come and take a shot for this. Omarion or Barrio? What, what about him? What would you pick? Just saying the name. Yeah. What would I, you said what would I pick?
Starting point is 01:12:17 Yeah, what would you pick? Like in my radio? Yeah. No, whatever. You say yeah. You say I'm a radio. Whatever, whatever, whatever. Whatever category.
Starting point is 01:12:24 You got a number one. You got a number one. Ah, that's just, I'm stuck. Yeah Yeah, I'm a shit I'm a drink okay For is the next me yeah, yeah boy. Yeah, that's all Relax Jeremiah or Jaheim That's way Jeremiah or Jaheim Jeremiah I like Jeremiah. I like Jeremiah. I like Jeremiah. Yeah, I like Jeremiah too. It's my man. Jaheim is awesome as well All three of y'all. I gotta apologize. I think they hit all three of y'all I got it. I got a part of them. I think the hell through it Bow wow or Romeo No, that gave us opportunity like he let us open up for the first screen talker
Starting point is 01:13:45 I don't know first about like what very first drink you pick one and you lose one. That's what you gonna be listening to The first screen so let's talk about this What age y'all? We were 13. Yeah. Ooh. 13. Yeah, about, uh. And older women is blessing y'all.
Starting point is 01:14:10 He was, he was, he was popping, you know. Older women was coming out. He was about, he had Bounce with me out. We did, we went to, uh, went to D.C. and performed for Jermaine. Jermaine Dupri. Yeah. Okay. We performed at some club he was hosting that night.
Starting point is 01:14:23 So that we could, he could give his approval. Right. And he was like, yeah, they dope. One thing about them niggas, bro. We talking about them. Pow, Jermaine, them niggas is with the business, bro. They not no haters. Them niggas is fly all the time.
Starting point is 01:14:41 You know what I'm saying? You don't got to worry about that shit. You know what I mean? But one thing that I always watched about them is they was really about the business. You know what I'm saying you don't gotta worry about that shit. I mean, but one thing that I always watched about them Is they was really about the business? You know what I'm saying like bowing scared of no money That's like here get the shit straight with it. Whatever is the income end up in between? You know what I'm saying? Like if it's anything to get to the money them niggas is with the business. Speak some noise to them niggas. Give them niggas some space. To say that,
Starting point is 01:15:05 to say that, if B2K could have a little bit of that in our business and that other dude, our other brother, could handle this shit the way that they handle
Starting point is 01:15:17 they shit, like bring it to the table, nigga, what's the issue? What's the question why we can't give the culture what they want? You know what I'm saying? We gotta do a service. Like, we was the NSYNC of the question? Why we can't give the culture what they want? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:15:25 We got to do a service. Like, we was the NSYNC of the black community. You know what I mean? It's not about money. It's not about, you know, accolades. It's like, we left them hanging, bro. We left them hanging. What if Jay left us hanging?
Starting point is 01:15:39 What if you left us hanging? What if you give them? What if drink champs just leave us hanging? We love that shit. We love what, and y'all just left us hanging? What if you give them... What if drink champs just leave us hanging? We love that shit. We love... And y'all just left us hanging. That's what we did. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:15:50 We did a lot in two years, bro. But we was supposed to give them like 10. Even if it was solo careers in between, like B-Win and did, and they came back just for maybe one B2K album, two B2K albums. It's not about the money. It's about we really set up these kids
Starting point is 01:16:04 to believe that they had something that they was gonna get to rock with. Y'all was the new addition to Jackson 5 for that generation. Your favorite rapper, whoever it is, whoever they were, you looked forward to the fact that they was putting out another album after this one. Right. How many official B2K albums we have? Oh shit. If you talking about like real studio albums, it was what, like seven of them? Goddamn. Really?
Starting point is 01:16:28 Yeah, because it was two B2K albums, then we had a Christmas album, two remix albums, we had the soundtrack for You Got Stars. These were all original studio album songs. It's not like remixes and scratched over or nothing like that. These were real albums. We wasn't in the studio, we was dancing. We wasn't dancing, we was on the road performing. So that's why we really pressed.
Starting point is 01:16:50 It's not to be on O's bumper like that. Like Omar, you so great. It's like bro, we leaving a work undone. Like, you know what I mean? I might not want to pursue a solo career like that because I come from a team aspect. Like with Ray J, I'm joining the cast and I had like a B2K point O on the Blood and Hip Hop.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Ray 2K. And then Ray 2K, you ain't like that. You was like, nah, nigga. No, because it's like, I said that twice. You was like, nah, nigga, no Ray 2K. No, but you know, like... And you look, you look for me for a second. You told Ray, you said, you said, do you know what and you will follow me for a second. You told me you said you said do you know?
Starting point is 01:17:26 We did I'm sorry. I'm sorry because Thinking about it after like, you know, knowing it up. I'm Booking y'all I'm going to y'all the sock. We're like damn. I didn't understand you did Some like you just get the bag, but now I'm looking back and I'm saying I understood exactly what you were saying back then so great continue I'm sorry yeah so shit I don't even remember or boys to men? Ooh. Shit. Blackstreet.
Starting point is 01:18:06 That was the first tape I bought as a kid. Tape. Tape. Did it pop on you? Nah, I actually put Kleenex in the side and recorded myself all day. Oh, you did?
Starting point is 01:18:19 You did? That's been hard to hear. Okay. Okay, okay. All right, moving on. Okay. NSYNC or Blackstreet Boys? Backstreet Boys, excuse me. NSYNC.
Starting point is 01:18:32 NSYNC. That nigga loved NSYNC. Yeah, he did. I think he thought it was the best. Let me hear you sing the NSYNC song. I like how they stayed together and they wouldn't got that bag. You kept it personal. I respect that. And they kept it going for their feet.
Starting point is 01:18:49 When that fucking bye bye bye song came out, bro, so this nigga got a big ass head, right? Oh, my God. We talking about each other because we got jokes about each other, right? You know We love music we love music but dancing for me for sure. Faction vs Fire too though. Yes. Escape or SWB? Bro, why you keep getting so deep? You messing with relationships. I gotta go back and say Omarion. Yeah, this is what we do. You should take a shot for Omarion.
Starting point is 01:19:39 We go on, we go on. He can run it back? Yeah, I had to run it back real up. Yeah, run it back real quick. Just take a shot. Come on, take a shot. Just take a shot. We don't need to know your answers. Just take a shot.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Because you're doing the right thing. Because we want B2K back together, goddammit. Goddammit, I'm fucking up. No. Okay, so, uh. Escape or WWE? Damn. Both.
Starting point is 01:19:59 Just take a shot. Just take a shot. You good. I had to because I love both of them. Ooh, this is a good one. You know, both. I had to because I love both of them. Ooh, this is a good one. This is a good one. He took his shot early.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Lenny Kravitz or Maxwell? It's like both your cousins. I usually hear the bars Maxwell more like a light-skinned me. I'm gonna go next He's in the light-skinned crew Apologize for whatever I finished you back in the light-skinned crew. Max, bro, I want to apologize for whatever offended you back in the days. Did you? And I found out he's Jamaican and Puerto Rican.
Starting point is 01:20:50 He's Puerto Rican? Yeah, right. I lost my mind. I'm so offended that I offended him. I forgot what I said. But I apologize wherever you're at out there. Both of them legends, man. All right.
Starting point is 01:21:02 You want to go with this one? Yes. Jodeci or Jagged Edge? Ooh, Jagged Edge didn't come to me, boy. I love Jodeci. I grew up on Jodeci. Okay, we gotta give it to you. You gotta give it to everyone.
Starting point is 01:21:15 I love Jagged Edge. Jodeci or Jagged Edge? Why you... He just wants to be Jodeci. I'm gonna go with Jodeci. We wanted to be Jodeci. Yeah, Jodeci. That's crazy. We did. Like, that was the most gonna show this we wanted to be jokes. Yeah, just We did like that was oh you want to pull through right?
Starting point is 01:21:30 Jodeci cuz if they won't go to see you don't go. Yes, so drink. Yeah, yeah Okay, so You was a team player He got a reason with Jagged Edge jump a pumpster youngster withster. Youngster with Jodeci. I couldn't do my moves with Jodeci but I know the songs. Yeah yeah! I did to them Jagged Edge records but I was old at that time. I'm mad to go Jagged Edge. We gotta take a shot. It's not just a Mario. We figure it out. Yeah. It's just, it's just real cool. Real cool. He just don't want to fit in the light-skinned community.
Starting point is 01:22:30 You know. Solo, solo. Solo. Next one's a drink too. Okay, is the drink ready? Alright, so we can change it up into know you're right no no no no we're gonna get a couple of these but this is for all three of y'all I'm sorry someone is gonna be for one of y'all but this one is for all three of y'all Michael Jackson or Prince
Starting point is 01:23:00 I'm going Mike Mike Mike. Just a goat. Good choice. I don't say I wanted you to go with Mike. I just wanted y'all to be in. Love Prince. Prince is amazing. But Mike is just Mike. You know, I got to thank this motherfucker right here for me never, ever meeting Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 01:23:19 That sounds like a good. Wait, what? I never got to meet Mike because of him. That's a terrible thing to do. I am. So, Rodney Jerkins was at the video shoot for Rock My World. What'd I do? And I was asleep.
Starting point is 01:23:37 It was like 4 in the morning, but they got the call that Mike was at the video and we can go up there and meet him. Well, they just got up and left. Liz didn't even wake me up. I'm at the video and we can go up there and meet him. Well, they just got up and left. Liz didn't even wake me up. I'm at the crib. I'm at the apartment downstairs. They ain't even come get me. I'm in like a few times.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Oh, a few times. Whoa. What's up? I'm sorry. Can you say that again? I'm sorry. Yeah, so I'm in the apartment downstairs. They go.
Starting point is 01:24:01 Him and Ogo, he know about it. He like, oh, well, they they said Mike gonna be here for two weeks We gonna run up on him again, so he don't even get up Yeah, like What like this might throw like I would have jumped up just I wouldn't even brush my teeth I was like, this is might be talking about so fast. We can't defend yourself. I just got up Don't know wait We talking about so fast between different yourself. I just got up They was like, you know what he told me I'm gonna tell you what he told you think oh you're Jay-Z love Michael Jackson. What are you talking about? Like you kidding me? So, all right, I got a story for y'all. I got a story for y'all.
Starting point is 01:24:47 See, remember, he was nervous to meet Jay-Z, so, you know, we did what was 2002 BET Awards. So I said, let's go meet Jay, man. 2001, man. So, you know, shout out to the shout out, shout out to the whole man. Shout out to everyone. Thanks so much for coming.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Hey! You know what I'm saying? Shit got real. Now we... Boys in the hood of men's society. We start with the L.A. guys. You skipped. You skipped it on purpose?
Starting point is 01:25:14 On my back. Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad. This is my everybody or him? We're going to start with him. We're going to start with you. You're L.A. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:25:21 It's starting on you. That's the question. Yep. I thought you skipped one. No, no,'s question. Yeah, that's just keeping not a guy Oh boys, we're gonna basket all boys. I'm gonna miss a sight Shit I got both okay, I mean, oh wait wait Don't die, K. Don't die. Men's Society.
Starting point is 01:25:49 Going Men's Society. So that's all three Men's Society? No, he said both. Oh, he said both Men's Society. You're the tiebreaker, boys and men. All right, this is the thing I say. So that's it. That's it.
Starting point is 01:26:02 That's right. He got both. One and one. Both? One and one. That's easy. No, no, both and one and one. That's easy. That's easy. That's easy. All right. All right, all right cool now we go smell right now we go over you Go back right I'll be sure or Bobby Brown Bobby yeah, you have a little brother. I Don't even know how he short songs like that to be honest. Yeah, when I can't talk to love.
Starting point is 01:26:30 Oh, Day and Night, Day and Night. Right? Yeah, that's the one I know. Yeah, but don't go by his singing. I know Quincy more than I know Albee, sure. We love them both. Go ahead. You ready? Oh shit, the look in this
Starting point is 01:26:45 house Mary J Elijah Alicia Keys I'll release it up Mary J got it yes Trey songs or Tory lanes one for all and all for one brand new me what is this I look okay you got the next one yeah well yeah yeah ready oh yeah weekend or Bruno Mars Bruno that's gonna be one yeah no next one after that wait. We see now back to all three of y'all fuck Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I got Here yeah, I didn't realize what this question is this is the Jackson 5 or new edition J5 Really thinking about this I'm not conflicted Jackson 5 Really?
Starting point is 01:28:05 You thinking about this? I'm not going to play the Jackson 5. Whoa. Don't do it. This is crazy. Don't do it, folks. This is nuts. Y'all, for real right now.
Starting point is 01:28:18 For real. I mean, you said you was a team player. He didn't really care. We figured out he didn't really care. He didn't know. He made no idea, man. Mean you said you was a team play If he say no it is wrong we was always the New new is Jackson 5 mixed with new addition. We all win. Oh, he say both is the route We perform in the same room that we perform the Destiny's Child for a member of new edition
Starting point is 01:28:56 What no? the brown skin do John Johnny Depp Johnny Depp Was it Michael Bitt? Was it Mike Bitt? No it was a Rick named Nick Ricky Bell? That's what it was That's what it was We performed for Ricky Bell In the same
Starting point is 01:29:20 Oh man! You know what? I'm going with it like this more both I'm going to call it. Oh my. You're going to fuck up, right? You know you got it right. That was fine. That was fine. It's a threat right there. You see what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Okay. Cheers, cheers, cheers. All right. Where we at? Oh, this is a good one. Oh, yeah. This is awesome to y'all three. Jermaine Dupri or Puff Daddy?
Starting point is 01:30:02 Oh. And the way y'all been talking, I feel like. Can y'all just take a moment to just tell them to keep it real You can I would take a moment Keep it real According to my man books, I way y'all been talking, it seems like the answer is there. It's there. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:30:27 Shit. So what happened was. Take that. Take that. Take that. Puff Daddy was down early. I love Puff. Puff was on Bum Bum Bum.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Bum Bum Bum. Jermaine worked on our first album. Mm. Mm. Mm. He did Boyfriend. Spent a lot of time. Last Boyfriend. Spent a lot of time with Jermaine, too.
Starting point is 01:30:51 Spent a lot of time with Jermaine at his studio. That nigga made us stay there for like two weeks and just play basketball before we even... I did. I did. He wrote a rap for me on one of our songs. And I recorded it back in L.A. He was like, nah, I don't like it. He flew me back, just me, back to Atlanta to re-record it.
Starting point is 01:31:10 And it was just me and him in the studio. He was like, nah, you got to do it like this. And it came out crazy. All right, so let's keep it real, fellas. What are we thinking? I got more history with Jermaine. That's one more. So I'm going to say Jermaine.
Starting point is 01:31:24 We were sticking with him. I. That's a good one. So I'm gonna say Jermaine. Boy, we gonna stick to the move, though. I don't know how it'll come. Jermaine had a lot to do with giving me my start, you know? So I'm gonna have to go with Jermaine. Love Diddy, though. Diddy take it to the next level. Got what you wanted, nigga. The Renegade.
Starting point is 01:31:40 Got what you wanted. Let's see. You set it up. Let's see. Let's see. Because he saw me, he was like, yes, what about you, man? Yeah, OK. No, that's you, bro.
Starting point is 01:31:49 Let's go. No, I'm going to go with Jermaine. OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Make some noise. Make some noise for the team player. Yeah, team player, god damn it. OK.
Starting point is 01:32:00 It's going to get crazy. This is a real get to know it game right here. I like this. I'm going start with you Mariah or Janet Right now now you under some pressure I'm gonna say Janet. I'm definitely gonna say Janet was on one of our whole screen tours. She was dating Jermaine at the time. She came to every show.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Oh, she was on Forest, nigga. Like, I love this song. What the fuck? So, Rasmus, you gotta take a shot. Yeah, yeah. You don't gotta take a shot. Take a shot. No, he answer.
Starting point is 01:32:42 He answer. He answer. Tommy Mottola signed us. That was his wife. We admired her. I love Janet. You don't have to take a shot. Take a shot. No, he answered. He answered. He answered. Tommy Mottola signed us. That was his wife. We admired her. I love Janet. You know what I'm saying? She's a part of the Michael family.
Starting point is 01:32:50 I got enough Michael. Y'all all safe. You know, how about that? You don't have to explain it to him, man. You answered. They're all safe. They're all safe. That's right.
Starting point is 01:32:56 OK. I love you both, man. OK. Peace. Peace. NWA or Wu-Tang Clan? NWA. Damn, what got you from Canada? What?
Starting point is 01:33:06 Hold on. I'll take a shot, bro. What, you taking a shot? Yeah, I don't know. But don't turn the mic. Wu-Tang NWA? Yeah, you got it. Fizz, you in on this?
Starting point is 01:33:19 I can't think. Yeah. Both of them's stories are crazy. I can relate. Being in a group, I can relate to both stories. Okay. You know, and both of them went through the trenches together, you know. Like, um, that's really hard, man. I'm gonna have to say both. I gotta say both. You get the shot, Brady? Yeah. I'm gonna pull it. I'm not safe. Oh, I gotta say both Everywhere in America that's no shot Okay, I see theE jump right out of you. Your wife's called you.
Starting point is 01:34:08 Anything else? Radio or podcast? I'm on the podcast. I'm on the podcast. Radio. I feel like he did that just to fuck with us, man. Let's make some noise for Razzbeats, man. Yeah, Razzbeats. Everybody's individually a renegade. I love it.
Starting point is 01:34:30 Radio's still poppin'. Your radio's still poppin'. Radio's still poppin'. The next one is a... y'all already thought this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think this question... Let's see. Oh, let's see. Beat Street or break you
Starting point is 01:34:48 Right, y'all take it break me It's more of our like childhood error, you know match. Oh, yeah B Street was way before like before we were born It's real talk because even both of those are childhood. So it must have been right and right after all right All right. So this is this is yeah MTV or beH1 Wow bonus kid not in TV It's all I'm glad you guys him it's all the same MTV Now I gotta ask you
Starting point is 01:35:23 You just do yourself in there. He was like, how are you? Nah, I didn't. MTV, uh... There's contracts in place, so I can't talk. So you're saying VH1? VH1, yeah. All day.
Starting point is 01:35:38 It's all the same company. It really don't matter. It's all Viacom. That's a good answer. MTV? MTV? Yeah, I know oh good answer TV The locks or run DMC Doesn't make sense a lot. This is mr. Lee by the way. He's the locks friend Personally causes this document as the birthday. Can we change that real quick on the spot and give it another somebody else against the locks?
Starting point is 01:36:09 Is that possible? Viggo's against the locks? What you want? That don't work. Nah, locks. It's three niggas then. It's three niggas. Or Viggo's broke up, sir.
Starting point is 01:36:17 But then... Dipset against the locks. Dipset against the locks? I mean, no. No, we see. No, like, like, like, we with some big Cam fans. Like, I love Cam. We love Cam. We love Cam over here. We love Cam. We love Cam. I mean, no, like, like, like we was some big cam fans.
Starting point is 01:36:25 Like I love cam. I was always cam's little brother. That's what they always said. Me and cam looked alike. So I was like, I was cam. Did you have a pink phone? No, but we had the big ass earrings. We was wearing those cause of cam.
Starting point is 01:36:39 The Allen Robinson's yours? Yeah, we was wearing them. The stylish ones. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. The Allen Robinson's yours. If you stay in the house, you're going to be in the house. We was wearing those cuz it can't Cuz it's not Jada it's the locks Okay, I can't say that I was rocking it there could be generational
Starting point is 01:37:06 I respect the game. Yeah, no shit My go both shot I'm gonna run them see See right now reference DMC right now. Rap Run DMC right now. I can rap some rap DMC right now. It's very simple.
Starting point is 01:37:28 It's very simple. I'm going to tell you how you, like for the new generation, Run DMC, very simple. It's two words. Angela Simmons. It's Run DMC. We love Angela. What the fuck? I killed that.
Starting point is 01:37:42 Not really. That's the new generation Run DMC. Angela Simmons outside in Carbone. What the fuck? Not really. That's the new generation of our DMC. Angela Simmons outside in Carbone. What about Vanessa Simmons? I forgot that part too. Take a shot. You just said both.
Starting point is 01:37:56 I meant to say both. I meant to say both. I meant to say both. You said both anyways. I did a photo shoot with Angela for Word Up. Remember Word Up? Word Up, yeah. Y'all old.
Starting point is 01:38:10 Yo, yo, let me just tell y'all something. Let me take a shot for y'all. Let me just tell y'all something, in case anybody have never told y'all. Y'all officially legends. Y'all officially old Gs. Hey. Y'all officially kind of old school.
Starting point is 01:38:24 So little. So little. Y'all officially kinda old school I'm hanging out with Busta and Fat Joe one day, right? I swear to God And they both get the same offer that I had already took Some nigga offered me some jamsica I think I had no idea so Buster and fat Joe bogus the same call and like I cool the money sounds good they won't say yes yes no one knows that all three of us are together oh wow what's the calls back in 10 minutes we got a dead dance show but he doesn't call me
Starting point is 01:39:08 he goes fat Joe cause I didn't tell Buster or fat Joe that I was already in on it I was like the first person to put it back so they called back
Starting point is 01:39:15 and they said we don't do old school shows and at first I was just like I like old school honey like I don't give a fuck like, I like old school money.
Starting point is 01:39:27 Like, I don't give a fuck if they call me old school. But it was something that, it was an integrity, because these are my elder statesmen. You know how many years I got in the game? They have more, no regardless of what. But I just looked at it like a bag is a bag. And they had taught me at that very moment like we're never old like we are oh geez we're never old school right so they turned down a bag and they gave it back they forced me to give us back but what I'm trying to say is they taught me integrity because you're only as old as you feel yeah so if you feel 95 you're gonna act 95 I've never felt older than 25
Starting point is 01:40:15 yeah yeah yeah I got my knees hurting so I'm sitting around like trying to keep up. But listen, no, no, no. For real. So I want to give that advice to y'all. It's because they're going to talk for the rest of y'all life. God bless, you know, you know, your situation.
Starting point is 01:40:37 Everyone that's in the group has had a breakup, has the same one-on-one fight that y'all talking about. Everyone in the group, whether it's a two-man group to a Wu-Tang to the nine-man group to whatever um we've all been through the same the thing is for us to live forever uh not just music wise but live forever in our own hearts
Starting point is 01:40:59 and i have i have not one callous man. Like there's people who shake my hand sometimes, but they can be work a day in your life. And they have no idea. Hey man, we got callouses up in the gym bro. Yeah, we different niggas. I don't know, it's just a waste bro. It's just a waste bro. I got callous in the house.
Starting point is 01:41:19 Yeah, what the fuck man? Yeah, no, no, no. You're like, come on, let me finish. But what I'm trying to say is we live a beautiful life. It's one of our most dangerous lives because we can never take our face off. You can leave right now. You can leave right now. You can leave right now.
Starting point is 01:41:35 You can leave right now. I can leave right now. And then somebody's going to say, motherfucker, we just can't have peace. No, it's true. You're laughing because you're the only nigga not famous here. That's fucked up because you make sense. And us, we might not have peace. This motherfucker can go to the Flanagans and try to get, you know, dolphin fingers.
Starting point is 01:42:02 And they're going to say, EFF. know dolphin fingers and they gonna say yes you won't hold up you know crustaceans this gonna be an Asian girl they're like man you be saving us I got mad on the question First I didn't even flip it at first. But I came out and ate it. You still ate it, motherfucker. Yeah, I did. Yeah, but. Hey, bro, are you wild? Queen B says she needs to broaden your umbrella. Make some noise for Queen B. Yeah! Eat the mother of gold, J-Guy. By the way, I eat caviar all the time.
Starting point is 01:43:15 She didn't mean that, though, brother. All right, all right. I'm not going to ask y'all Beastie Boys. I'll take your shot. We'll take a shot from doing fucking this shit. I'm not going to ask y'all Beastie Boys against Cypress Hills, because that's just disrespectful. Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 01:43:24 I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll beat the boys against St. Basil's because that's disrespectful. Yeah, it does. I understand. I know. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it. I'm J.R. Martinez. I'm a U.S. Army veteran myself.
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Starting point is 01:48:48 the last question we ask every guest on not not not the interview is done for quick time or slime we ask every guest start with you Razby loyalty or respect After the interview is done, for a quick time of slime, this is a certain segment. We ask every guest this. We start with you, Raspy. Loyalty or respect?
Starting point is 01:49:09 Loyalty. Piss. I'm going to go with loyalty. Damn. I mean, if someone's loyal, they're going to respect you. They're going to respect the Lord. It comes together. The influence on these answers is... You can respect somebody and not be loyal to them.
Starting point is 01:49:40 That's a good one. You can respect somebody and not be loyal to them. Just to cover both sides. Until they decide that they don't want not be loyal to them. Just to cover both sides. Until they decide that they don't want to be loyal no more. Because they feel like they got a reason no longer to respect you. So, the answer is? You are shit.
Starting point is 01:49:59 More and more guys like, oh loyalty. Fucking fantastic. Let's fantastic space noise To a little bit more than respect cuz you feel me people get emotional a lot about small things and that test the loyalty a Lot I mean, but why not those I would love to go both. I didn't get the option You know I'm sitting at the option. Oh, I didn't know that was a both question. Oh shit. That was a both? This whole shit was both questions, sir. Boom! I'm going. All right, take a shot for yourself.
Starting point is 01:50:29 I'm fucking up. You gotta take a shot for yourself. You fucked up. I took a shot at the race. We all understood the assignment. You know what, man? Yeah, come on. All right, here it is.
Starting point is 01:50:37 Cut there. Let's go real low. So let me ask, oh, come on, let me ask you to take the shot. Why? Because this is a song that you can't play. You can't play it. You can't play it. You can't play it. You can't play it. You can't play it. You can't, yeah, yeah. God damn it. Wow. So let me ask, I'll let you take the shot.
Starting point is 01:50:45 Let me. What? Because this is a song that y'all got, What Girls Want, right? And at the end of the song, y'all all shouting out y'all Zodiac sign. Wait. Why?
Starting point is 01:51:02 All right, so I, you want to, I mean, you want, I mean, keep it a buck. Yeah. I mean, this is a drink test, gonna keep it a buck when Kale sent the song in the demo when you say Kale mr. Robert Kelly. Yes, sir. Did y'all play basketball against him? Nah. Okay. No, we did. We did with him.
Starting point is 01:51:29 No, we did. We went to the spot in Chicago, the Hoops. But it was a couple of celebrity games that we played in that he was playing in, too. Right. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, so when R. Kelly sent in the demo, at the end of the record, he said, I'm Jay Boog, and I'm a Leo. I'm no offense and I'm a Leo I Forgot the name of the group what's your zodiac? No, they did the same like wow
Starting point is 01:52:25 My name is Melvin and I'm a Capricorn and then another number You know, you know what I'm so much the shy lights Was it the shy lights one of those? Somebody I mean that was a thing always in records if you what's your so you like the party really? millennium yeah in 2000all in 2000s took them off. I was like, what? But what's crazy is that R. Kelly demoed it and gave theirs.
Starting point is 01:52:52 That's what I'm saying. He googled y'all. He already knew y'all. The shit that he did for us was like, he got on a board and was like, I'ma go there, I'ma go there, I'ma take it here, I'ma take it there. He did every single one on the second album. Man.
Starting point is 01:53:07 Clean flush, bro, and the remixes. And took all to publish. You know, I wanted to ask that, but I was a little crazy and scared. I mean, yeah, yeah, but that was Kells. He wrote songs for Michael Jackson. We was young guys, man. I don't care if I wrote 12 bars.. Kelly wrote that that was a gift to us You know I'm saying that changed our lives man that that that games are first on one single our first major feature
Starting point is 01:53:33 I Said shout out to puff cuz that nigga touch the record when they say it's like scared cuz that's a whole other story That record with the mother for mom bomb bomb that record In my nose my nose pulling up right now. nelly first his little remakes. He's loading Not for the record came out. It went to nelly first bump bump bump actual original record Oh, yeah, and now he had the record country grandma or they did not even they didn't want to do it because care I can't go to stuff currently at that time, fresh.
Starting point is 01:54:06 This is some other stuff Kel was going through. No, it's the beginning, bro. This is when the first tape came out with the girls and all that stuff. What tape? The people tape. The people tape. The girls peed on it. He got some classic stuff.
Starting point is 01:54:17 It's not a classic. It's not a classic. The girls peed on it. Oh, when he peed on it. Girl peed on it. Oh, man. I'm going to ignore you. It's not a classic, by the way. He act like he don't know. It's not a classic. No, I saw the tape, nigga. Oh
Starting point is 01:54:44 The record right now they get the regular rest and there's no shade to Nelly but his team just felt like you know we're not touching that right now. He hot as fuck, you know what I mean? Nelly is on top. So it is like he didn't want to get caught up with any possibilities so they was like nah we gonna pass on it. Puff kept it gangster like you know what? I had a record back to y'all what nigga like what maybe 24 or 48 hours at the max nigga with all of that shit done. Are we making some noise for Puff Daddy? Yeah of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Puff was like, man, I ain't worried about that shit. I love them little niggas. And you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:55:12 It's an opportunity for us to bridge these fan bases, you know what I mean? Like, let's do it, you know what I mean? And we fucked with Puff, remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. When he got on the set? Bruh, classic moments, man. One of the greatest dudes that we met that just like when you get around
Starting point is 01:55:26 them you feel an energy of like you can do it you know what i'm saying like you can do it you can fucking do it i don't i never did any business with puff contractually so i don't get into all of that but just the energy of being around a nigga and just being around a successful person. Definitely. Like, he got that energy of, like, man, I want this nigga's life. You hear what I'm saying? Like, when I leave, I'm puffed, nigga. I'm about to go be the new fucking puff.
Starting point is 01:55:56 Right. Leaving that place nigga had us on fire. It made us want to go kill some shit. Like, because he had his shit so together. He had his assistance, right? He pulled up right his guards was like put up in a little bit I should be putting drip on this yo, it was like nigga get your game up. I'm leaving this little niggas, bro That's put my fucking shit on for me fucking big ass. We got a sister bringing out the box with eight different Jacobs. Which one you want to put on? I want this. We don't got nothing. We got dance moves, nigga.
Starting point is 01:56:28 You feel me? He's just up there like, for my shot. He's doing this, nail getting done, toe getting done. I'm like, this nigga's amazing, bro. Everybody got a good shot for puffing for that. I ain't going to lie. Oh, we already good. Anybody here is getting a check for puff right now.
Starting point is 01:56:49 Salute, salute. I dare you, salute B2K. That experience was crazy. Another crazy shot. Look at my shot, look at your shot, Razby. Listen, man, me and you, we are on a level. I've come a long way. Listen, listen, come on, come on.
Starting point is 01:57:01 You can't let me go out like this. Come on, Raz. What's your sign? What's your sign? What's like this. Come on, Raz. What's your sign? What's your sign? What's your Zodiac sign? What's your Zodiac sign, Razby? I'm a Gemini. Shout out to Gemini.
Starting point is 01:57:12 I'm a Gemini. Say it with your chest. Shout out to Kenny with my mom. My wife's a Gemini. A lot of great Gemini's. One of my best friends is a Gemini. So, can I tell y'all, we got to tell them another story when another mega star blessed us, my nigga. Okay, you got to tell them another story with another mega star bless this money. Okay, you guys
Starting point is 01:57:26 Hold on. Oh, yeah, this nigga came in on puff times three and an 18 Willard Life fucking thing Yes So we're talking about this shit, all right, so we bought the new brands fucking No, cuz people get it fucked up with each2K when they don't understand why we special, bro. Y'all been special. Niggas don't get this shit. In a great way. The reason why we special, and you'll see it if you look at us, right? I'm in. We know this. O is a flower that has the possibility to turn into anything in the forest. Right? He can start off as a lily and turn into a rose, going from a rose to whatever. You get what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:58:29 Like he has that ability. You went to science class. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I skipped that one. Right there. 15.
Starting point is 01:58:36 Yeah, man. I'm like the nigga that manicures the forest and keeps up with it. I know everything in there. You know what I'm saying? Fizz, he's that beautiful fucking bird that's very manicured and the nigga, you know what i'm saying fizz he's that beautiful bird that's very manicured and the you know what i'm saying like he's fly as that's what he about you know what i'm saying he he he paints the forest beautifully you know what i'm saying
Starting point is 01:58:55 and raz raz is the who's seen where all that was supposed to be planted how that was supposed to go there and how you get what i'm saying like raz is a full director when you talk about him putting that scream two or two together himself Niggas don't want to talk about that when you want to say background dances when you want to say this and that I was responsible Put some respect on the whole process So good how all of this shit was special for everybody who didn't know why they like this together Because i'm in there cracking a whip like nigga this shit messy Shit fuck that shit off nigga. It's supposed to be I'm gonna take this man. Nigga. Oh no, I ain't, I ain't. Right? And Fizz is like, oh them pants too tight.
Starting point is 01:59:48 You know what I'm saying? Like we can't wear that. That shit gonna look wrong. Like don't do this. We made each other better. You know what I'm saying? We had a morning power out this morning. We had a little talk about some different like accessories and shit.
Starting point is 02:00:00 I'm like, yo, it's cool. But wait till Fizz get back. Let's all talk about it. see how you feel about it. We talked about it. We made the decision. It worked out the right way. People don't understand that's how B2K always won. We had a relationship besides the business. One nigga trying to make all the decisions,
Starting point is 02:00:15 it's like it don't work because there's so many flavors out there in the world that has to be accomplished. They got to be satisfied. And that's how we did it. We all brought a different flavor of the candy. It could be Jolly Ranchers, but I could be Strawberry, Grape, and then see like you might, your favorite might be Strawberry. I love Jolly Ranchers.
Starting point is 02:00:35 Your favorite might be, but look, check it, your shit might be Jolly Ranchers. I'm a Grape nigga. You might like that. You might like the Grape, man. You might be like, and just think about this, there's a party with all the flavors there. Everybody who favors is yelling at you. But what if they only had the yellow one there? What if they only had the yellow one there? And everyone's like,
Starting point is 02:00:53 we only selling the yellow one tonight. Are you really about to break your neck to get there? Nah, you not. I'm an option. Right, so when you see 15,000 screaming fans in there, it was because five, five, five, five different favorite flavors came together to fill that whole stadium. Because we all had a reason why those people was in there. We all drew a different crowd.
Starting point is 02:01:18 When we would get to the meet and greets, the big girls would tell, I hate you, J-Bug. I had all the big girls. All of them. I was a little guy. I'll eat you, J-Bug. I had all the big girls. All of them. I was a little guy. I was 120 pounds and they loved it. I was like a twix. You feel me? Big girls all day, baby.
Starting point is 02:01:35 But I loved the big girls. I would hug them. They'd pick me up sometimes. Don't put it. Pick me up sometimes. Don't put the D at the end. Don't put the D at the end. It's love that is past tense. No, I didn't discriminate because at the end of the day on some real nine cabin I see that person right you know I'm saying like I see the person
Starting point is 02:02:07 And when they get there they more lit up and appreciative of what I'm doing for them Didn't the girl that thinks she look good with the eyelashes and all that she's trying to get chose you for me I came to do my show and get with my real rockers not the one that's trying to capitalize off my success So these are the ones that's really rocking with me. I see it in their eyes, they excited about me, they crying, I'm like, that's my nigga right there. Not, I'm trying to be like, that's my nigga right there. That's the one I can rock with, maybe start the fan club with.
Starting point is 02:02:35 She can maybe work with us, do some merchandise, cause they really my supporters. That's what I'm there for. So the big girls, they eat me up. And they tell me, I'll eat you, J-Boo. And I be like, girls they eat me up and they tell me I'll eat you Jay Boo and I'll be like if you eat me ketchup, barbecue, whatever I'm gone
Starting point is 02:02:54 you don't eat ass at any Jay Boo c'mon bruh you do he said yes what? I'm not struggling you know we had you with daddy you gotta eat everything bro c'mon man you slipping on that.
Starting point is 02:03:05 Listen, if you not, what you doing? Wait, so we said, we just clarified. If this boat was the ultimate- Everybody's eating booty game. O'Sonnell would eat booty game. I'm gonna eat the whole ass, bruh. The whole eat your life. No kissing.
Starting point is 02:03:21 Blip your head off. No kissing. Ass face. Ass face, he's gonna eat booty game. No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids.
Starting point is 02:03:29 No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids.
Starting point is 02:03:35 No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids.
Starting point is 02:03:42 No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids. No kids. No that. Chill, chill, chill. Nah, listen, Trick Daddy said he be over here. For my girl, you know what I'm saying? My tongue may slide down there. Okay. That's what's up. What you say about Trick Daddy? Look, it's Trick Daddy. He said, I said, I asked Trick, he said, in the same chat,
Starting point is 02:04:06 I said, Tricky, do you get your ass ate? Wait, he gets his ass ate? Oh, wow! Look at that. That was not the question. That was not the question. I didn't mean it. Oh, you didn't say that?
Starting point is 02:04:23 No, what I'm trying to say is Sin is different in this world. Why you gotta say shit? What you got going on bro? Don't worry bitch, my sin is crazy. Yo, you never sat on your bitch face? Me? Me? No. I'ma got balance. I'ma got balance.
Starting point is 02:04:44 I'ma lost. I'm got balance, sir. I got balance. You look good squad techniques. Yo! He said, meet me. Oh, wow. Okay. We actually broke the group up. What? We talked about bump there.
Starting point is 02:05:00 Did we talk about bump there? Bump that, the remix? Yeah. What about it? Did we talk about that yet? No, I can't did the remix though, too Kelly did all the fucking songs the second album. He was he was our go-to. Let's just be clear Was there a sign y'all say in our Kelly that this thing is crazy? We don't even hang with my mom never cuz that's true that this is what I was like this is when I was like Rose weird What not like that not like that bro, but it was it we more like that
Starting point is 02:05:34 He went to his we went to his crib for almost a scene. It's just me. I was you sir. We take the shop It wasn't like that. It wasn't like that. It wasn't like that. Black plant on the table. Bullshit shot. I'm just kidding. You was there.
Starting point is 02:05:52 It wasn't like that. I was there. You was there. Look, so we finished the overseas tour, and it was his daughter's birthday the day we were coming back. Let me see his. R. Kelly. R. Kelly's daughter's birthday.
Starting point is 02:06:03 She got here. And she was a fan of ours, so he requested if we can come by and sing happy birthday to him. Just record that Overseas before y'all go home to Chicago come sing happy birthday to my daughter. That's fine. That's a flash in the dark. Cause he don't get the piss and mixtape out yet. Piss and mixtape. I'm just talking about the level of pool. The level of pool. So nigga, we was on tour for like a month and a half and before we could go home we had to stop in Chicago to sing happy birthday. Oh it wasn't your choice.
Starting point is 02:06:38 No it wasn't a choice. No that's why I said the level of pool. I just wanted to do that. Let's put some respect to the nigga there. So we go to the crib, sing happy birthday and he give us a tour of the house. And we go to the crib and we go to the pool. And we go to the pool. And we go to the pool. And we go to the pool. And we go to want that So so we go to the crib say happy birthday And he give us a tour of the crib. We see everything and then you go to his garage go to the garage
Starting point is 02:06:54 It's like a six-car garage. I'm like, yeah Got some toys in here. You know what I'm saying? So we go up in there and it's a whole workout facility by the box in the one from that video He shot in the red, white, and blue. The world's greatest. So we like, damn, this is crazy. Like, we wasn't expecting this. So he get up in the boxing ring.
Starting point is 02:07:14 He said, y'all stay down there. He's in the middle of the boxing ring. He said, y'all, next show, y'all need to come out. Stand still. Don't move and then one spins to the right so he did it yeah he spin and then he said then the next one spins to the left so so so so so and then he did the next two spin to the right spin to the left and he sat there and then he was like, and then just stand there.
Starting point is 02:07:48 Then like, Mike, take your glasses off. And look at the crowd. It was like bars, but at the same time I was like, cuz it's weird. Yo, that was in Chicago at the studio, right? Nigga, I just said we went to his house. Oh, that's what it was? Wake up, bro. You know what's crazy about that shit, Noreen?
Starting point is 02:08:15 We did that shit. I mean, it sounds like a good idea. We did that shit. Oh, you did what he said? We did that shit. Yeah, yeah, 100%. We did that shit. We did that shit. Oh, you did what he said? We did that shit. Yeah, yeah, 100%. We did that shit. We did that shit on the last tour.
Starting point is 02:08:29 That shit still works. We did that shit on the last tour. They went crazy. He probably doing that in jail right now. And they probably going crazy. Did he get publishing off of you doing that? Oh, shit. R. Kelly gave us some bars, chill. Did he get publishing off of you doing that? Nah. Oh shit. R. Kelly gave us some bars though. He gave us some bars.
Starting point is 02:08:50 It was weird, but he gave us some bars. On the publishing tip, he did most of the singles, right? So he got all the publishing. All the singles. So what publishing did y'all write though? I wrote my raps. Nothing else? Nothing else. But you don't even get that because he was... That nigga said songs over with raps Nothing else nothing else is written, but you don't even get that because he was unknown
Starting point is 02:09:06 I think it says songs over with raps done, but I'm saying you got policy from other songs y'all bro He was on how he wrote his he wrote his raps But he would still it's over with wrecked with records like the rap is done If you want to use this rap because what you are initially always the rap out of you. Yeah, you okay? You've never sung No, you hit a knock I hold a note But this is the thing I'm trying to get to is though do y'all roll records or no on the album yeah so the second album
Starting point is 02:09:46 we had 17 songs on the second album we wrote 10 of them okay because those 10 were actually produced by our managers producers
Starting point is 02:09:54 so it was like an in-house play so we really didn't get the pub we were supposed to get off of that you know we got like
Starting point is 02:10:01 a quarter percent of a percent. Right. It's like the smallest amount you could get on publishing, you know. But that's split between y'all three or split between y'all four? No, like we each got.25%. Like the smallest amount you could get. Why?
Starting point is 02:10:18 Because other people on the team got the production and everybody else. That's how it was set up. Day to day, you know. Like our parents didn't know much. I mean, yeah, depending on I was set up. That's how I was set up. At the end of the day, you know, I told everybody, you got to really watch what you do when you get into the contractual agreements because I tell everybody
Starting point is 02:10:36 like the new artists, the first deal you're going to get is going to be the fucking worst deal ever. They just want to see if you're paying attention. I got into working actually with the same management that we left, you know what I'm saying, on some film shit, like as of a current, like as of today still, you know what I mean? And getting on the other side of the desk, seeing how they was doing deals, like I get what they was doing when they was fucking with us, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:11:00 But it's business and you can't get that fucked up, you know what I'm saying? So when we send contracts out, you're going to get the first base contract. It's up to you to do your research and get a count back. You know what I'm saying? Redline that motherfucker and get back. He said our parents didn't really know. We was excited about just seeing numbers that was going to come in. You feel me?
Starting point is 02:11:22 And we got into shit that we was not supposed to get into. You i'm saying so message to the artists out there today like hold don't fold you know i mean really read this shit you know i mean because the first contract is the worst contract the final contract is based off of you reading that first one and saying look if y'all can't rock with us like this then we can't do this deal if you do it like you know what you get into and stop crying about that shit And know that you're betting on yourself at that point. Yeah, at least know what you're doing exactly We didn't know, you know what I'm saying? But the game is changing. You sit back and you look at it like damn Everybody working like that. So this is a question that we didn't ask in the game that I was playing And what we usually do.
Starting point is 02:12:08 If you had a chance to start at all level, would y'all do independent or major? I mean, I never was in a position to be able to do the initial deal with the major. So I can't really say. All y'all deals was the goal. I think for what they were doing, major is the only way you could go. That's what I'm saying. Because look, you go back and you talk to Irv, right? How you do the research on Irv. He was talking about when he was over there and they was giving him niggas like crazy amounts of money You know what I'm saying? It's where I got it. Yeah, because they had
Starting point is 02:12:43 You just see like with the way that they had their deals organized, you know what I'm saying? Go over to Cash Money, go over to the ones that actually really was getting the numbers coming into their accounts, you know what I'm saying? It was per how they did their deal. So the way our shit was done, I can't tell how them niggas went in there and really got their right deal. They might have just wanted to take whatever deal was available you know what I'm saying, available to them. It's a different circumstance
Starting point is 02:13:05 for everybody. Y'all was the age y'all was at. I probably agree with him. I would have took a major deal if they're going to give me a full production deal
Starting point is 02:13:14 or full whatever, you know what I'm saying, joint venture over there at that time, I would probably take that major deal with the right numbers, with the right shit
Starting point is 02:13:21 as close as possible. Or the time frame. The thing for y'all would have been short in the time frame. So you learn the business business you go in there. We're not straggling You come out learning and then you renegotiate Listen to what I want to ask about this are killing thing about him writing the record I got pissed too. I got pissed. I'm like, I'll kill you, Joe. No, no, it's not like that. It's not like, it's not. Would y'all have done it again?
Starting point is 02:13:48 Like, would you go back and have him write those records again? Did you feel that you got what you needed out of having someone take the publishing, write these records? I wouldn't take anything back of what we did. Right. Other than the conversation we had in confidentiality about leaving management. That's the only thing I would take back. Because other than that, y'all might still have B2K as a four here today. It's supposed to be an empty chair right there.
Starting point is 02:14:19 You feel me? Because without that, what would management have to go off? Oh, he fucked that girl? Like, that's not enough to stop and take one person solo. You know what I mean? So other than that, R. Kelly added to the success of B2K. You know what I mean? He gave us our first number one record.
Starting point is 02:14:41 And because of that record, our album stayed at number one for like four or five weeks People every week sell it to 100,000. Hey, bro before R Kelly my nigga They they brought our shit out at 9-11 when the towers got hit Literally our video premiered on 106th and Park on 9-11. You see how y'all people in here our first They clear the stadiums in 106 in park or the set, right? Yeah, right. It's right. Right. So remember when it was just free and AJ and it was all solid. It was all down. The lights was down. They had nobody in the audience and they wasn't doing nothing but just running the videos and our new joint
Starting point is 02:15:16 got premiered like that. We weren't able to go on to Chiara Cofillas. None of that shit, right? There was no Zoom back then. Oh, definitely not then our record at the time in my opinion was before it's time and they didn't know how to work it tricky steward and then they had a dope ass record on home for us right banging shit but but the record wasn't researching the way that we expected to research right so we having problems at radio we can't promote the way we want all of our world premieres from MTV TRL to BET 106 and Park is fucked up because the 9-11 shit got everything shut down You know what I'm saying? And so like we teeter in or not even getting a second chance at a second video or second single
Starting point is 02:15:58 Within the label if you know about the contracts how they go you got a first guarantee a possible second You know what i'm saying like our possible second is looking shaky as right now because the first record is now researching in this and the economy is up because 9 11 just hit so we struggling gots to be comes you know what i'm saying and it starts to do well at radio but it's still not a number one record it's still not a top 40 a top 20 on the top 100 it's like it's struggling it's doing well maybe at r&b you know what i mean but overall like it's not a total success we more of a visual group but what happened is they allowed us to do another new joint when they're all the smoke clear you know what i'm saying and 106 in parking shout out to bt uplifted us enough you
Starting point is 02:16:43 know what i'm saying, to put us in a place where the label got behind us and was like, all right, this shit is something. You know what I'm saying? Right, right. Because at first, the devil was in the details. It was like, yo, this ain't working, and nah, we ain't getting a fair shot. You know what I mean? What label are we talking about?
Starting point is 02:16:57 We're talking about Sony Epic, right? So to speak on Kells, why we can't say shit about Kells is because they brought in a slew of producers to write records for us That everybody thought was the motherfuckers right first out. We worked with every we worked with everybody what no slouches You know I'm saying track man. It was some motherfuckers on the track and DJ clue nigga Like it was some niggas on there right? Yeah, Jermaine Dupri was on the first album. Brian Michael Cox. Brian McKendie Burris wrote on the first album. Did he have a cape mask
Starting point is 02:17:29 on? Did he have a mask on, R. Kelly? Nah, nigga. Nah. But, but, we got kissed enough, you know what I'm saying, for them to be like, alright, R. Kelly is gonna work on the second album. And the passion
Starting point is 02:17:49 that he put behind it was the details of him going to find out what dates our birthdays was on by maybe even calling the label. Calling the label and saying, hey, I got an idea. I need to know what day those boys' birthdays is on. It could be creepy, but it could be... The latest could be. but it could be the latest creepy like bill cox look look but in the beginning remember when we met with kills we went to the studio right he broke out a guitar he went to this big ass podium right in the middle of the studio where the board was at and for like what would you say an hour or so he went into so many different
Starting point is 02:18:22 characters from a country guy to a church pastor Made us come up there do different things like as far as like tapping into different characters and play along and inquire and saying this No, no, he did those videos right? He did the videos that he was a different don't you? Oh, I thought you come out the girl The president of somebody's like he made, he made us come to the studio and literally show our personalities, you get what I'm saying? And have fun. So you think the different characters, it was an exercise that he was trying to get y'all to go through?
Starting point is 02:18:57 He was getting to know us. He was reading us. He was finding the cool guy, the crazy guy, the funny guy. He was finding all of that shit. And that was the genius work. When he returned with the with the records bro they came one after another after and it fit us so perfect you know what i'm saying like he catered these records perfectly perfectly for us it wasn't something in his catalog right and when we went and met with him when we came home for tour he told us he showed us exactly how he did itum Bum Bum. He was like, and I'm never going to make you guys the same song twice.
Starting point is 02:19:27 I don't do that. So don't ask me for another Bum Bum Bum. When I give you this next record, don't ask me for another one of these. Because every time I give you a record, it's going to be a new one. You never do the same record twice. Wow. So when everything starts happening, how do y'all feel? How conflicted are y'all with the man and then the business of what you dealt with? like, damn, like, this is really happening, you know, and it was like, we didn't see that side of him, you know what I mean, we seen a whole different person, R. Kelly, bro, you
Starting point is 02:20:17 be lost, I don't be lost, so, so it was like, we just had a different respect for him, you know? Right. Because that wasn't the R. Kelly we knew. We were able to separate. We're still on R. Kelly right now. It was like, we had to. The person you work with versus this person. Right.
Starting point is 02:20:40 So, it was like, in a sense, like, even what they say about Mike. You know, they say the allegations they got against fire, but we never seen that thing So me as a Mike fan, I don't believe that shit right you feel me, but Kelly is seeing it. It's like I do it It's like whoa, you know, but I can only face this man really off of What I know and who I met as a kid. You feel me? I'm not trying to decipher the two. because you're how old at this time?
Starting point is 02:21:11 Let's just say 16. You know? So it's just like, it's just shock value. Great. Me personally, I, I saw the success take off when like they, they put the record out and immediately everybody came
Starting point is 02:21:34 back from radio. If you understood how radio worked back then, you had to hold up Pow Wow, do a bunch of modern record research and all that. And they're like, yo, they're going crazy over this record right now you know what we're gonna just bump on bump on a ball and like Fiji said like we not tied into his personal life like we don't know so as the record is going number one is perfect like this is the crash okay I didn't so we got to make a decision how we support them how we you know I'm saying how we do even it's not Even up to you to support him or not. Well, it is because it's like
Starting point is 02:22:10 Wait, it is because it's like we we spent time with him as a friend before all this shit hit the fan day on that second album day McPherson gave us a lot of a lot of individual input So he gave us the option after that second single which was girlfriend to continue you know getting records from Kells like y'all want to still continue to work with him because Dave Mack was actually managing Kells at the time so it was like I mean, this is how we winning. You know, like, why would we go against how we winning right now?
Starting point is 02:22:49 Do you think, this is a little crazy, but do you think the industry is so, they so happy to just make money that they will turn a blind eye to what's going on with the individual? I think at that time it was just so fresh, man. And nobody knew where it was going. they could be it could be false allegations right that's why I said we can't well we are that's why that's why we see the mistake but that's why we we can't get caught up and trying to be on the side I mean with the tape I think people still, someone could still say that's false allegations. You could say you don't know the age of the girl in it. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:23:31 In that time frame. But then as things progressed, people came out and then you saw more. As things progressed, we were no longer in that period when we had to deal with it. You know what I'm saying? When things were, like, current and fresh, when when the records were out it was all still fresh allegations They weren't even like full tapes out and shit like that. It was going to be a killer. But look, but the thing was this, we decided, look,
Starting point is 02:24:10 if it's not our situation, it's not our place to pick a side. You know what I'm saying? It's not our place to speak on it. That's that man's business. Everybody got their life aside from when we come out as these superstars. We don't go home with you at night, Nori. We don't know what you do. We don't these superstars. We don't go home to at night nor right
Starting point is 02:24:25 We don't know what you do. I don't know your kids. We don't know your wife. We don't know what they know No, it's like let us just take a step back and say hey we beat you. Okay? Yeah, respect I'm especially don't say it as well as rather an Instagram cuz now everybody know on Twitter and Instagram and Facebook ever know You hold your whole life right with this before that Yeah, so like wow our own space was don't ask us to say how we feel about it Or should we or should we work with Robin that were around Rob was our friend before I start going through what he was Going through if you a real nigga and you really work with your nigga Even if he wrong you don't bail on him if he got to get locked up for he did
Starting point is 02:25:07 He in locked up murder did but you don't bail on your nigga that just gave you life He just gave us life. Yeah, he might be fucked up Yeah, he might have did some shit that we don't agree with some shit that I might not have did you might have did he? Might have did but you don't bail on the nigga You go through the water with him. You feel me when he wrong he wrong right if he killed that nigga killed that nigga nori There's still your nigga though Sometimes not no no no no no no no no no not you get what I'm saying not I'm saying like Regardless of what
Starting point is 02:25:45 My family go through You feel me? I'm not gonna agree With all of their decisions That they made You get what I'm saying? But one thing about me Bro, I'm not turning my back
Starting point is 02:25:55 On you I'll chew your ass out I might beat you the fuck up For what you did But I'm not gonna turn my back On you, bro Because At the end of the day we gonna be family forever feel me that's right and i'm gonna need you to catch me and be
Starting point is 02:26:12 there for me in my moments when i up if it ain't no walking sin that's higher than the other how you gonna turn your back on your brother you feel me that's that's just how i look at it you know what i'm saying and i to fucking fuck no little kids with you. I'm not going to do none of that shit. I'm just saying, if that's what's going on, I'm not going to go do that with you. But at the same time, you know what I'm saying, I'm not going to turn my back on you. You know what I'm saying? In the sense of if we going to go out and do rap records, it's a situation where it's
Starting point is 02:26:43 like, oh, we're not gonna perform the records no more? Nah, we're gonna perform the records. Well, who said that? So sometimes you gotta, sometimes basically you gotta separate the artist from the actual art. Exactly. Exactly. We didn't say that. No, I know, I'm not saying that.
Starting point is 02:26:58 It's like Bill Cosby. Like, Bill Cosby is some fucked up shit. When you look at it, you ever seen the Bill Cosby documentary? No. It's some fucked up shit when you look at ever seen a book out of the documentary It's a hell fucks up every but it doesn't take away from the hospitals. What's the fucking phenomenal family? Kelly was a genius when it came to this right now separate Listen Those are beautiful family go work from the person.
Starting point is 02:27:25 You got to separate. The Cosby's was a herb. The work from the person. You said it first. Yes. All right. Because it could have just came off like it was very raw. It's like this, bro.
Starting point is 02:27:36 I don't agree with what you did, right? And I won't involve myself with those antics. You feel me? But you, my nigga, and if you about to go do that beer for 30 years, bro There's redemption for everybody who will still accept your call, bro. What's up my nigga? How you feeling bro? You getting your head together, right? Hey, I'm mad you did that shit, but I see you trying to get your head together You feel me cuz he got to still live the rest of his life you feel me
Starting point is 02:28:13 it's because i'm passionate about the forgiveness you feel me because i need somebody to forgive me sometimes how did y'all make that record? Man. I don't know. It seems like a funny story. Well, yeah. At the time, the producers, Platinum Status, which was our manager's producers at the time, they were trying to come up. So, you know, at that time, we were still working on reels.
Starting point is 02:28:44 There was no Pro Tools. Two inch machines. Come on, come on, come on. So, you know, at that time we were still working on reels. There was no pro tubes. Two inch machines. Come on, come on, come on. To get where y'all at. Yo, listen, listen, listen. You know about reel to reel. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:28:53 We talking about patching two inches. Yo, 18 inch reels. Yo, y'all, y'all used to be reels, man. Working, man. Hey, I remember seeing loads of reels with our songs. Yes, yo, yo, y'all fish you OGs. I thought y'all started with Dax. Hey, I'm the same load They're little dogs The fucking reels was like big as fuck. Bigger than reels, yeah. Let me be real, let me be real. They're Ludolfs. If you say bitches, it's not gonna fly.
Starting point is 02:29:30 But their quality was nice. When we would get these records, our managers would have the producers mix the songs. So they would get the reels of all the instruments they used, and then they would sample, then they now they would have the sounds so they had all the sounds to the r kelly records so when they made they made bada boom they tried to sample r kelly songs and so the writers went in there and tried to make a r kelly type record and then we thought it was dope so we used it for the you
Starting point is 02:30:06 got started soundtrack and actually I have one he jumped on and fab jumped on it so the week fuck cheese now let me just say something as I'm going through y'all the soccer's me there's one name that pops up besides Chris is David Mackie? David Pearson. David Pearson. That's the same person? Yeah. Oh.
Starting point is 02:30:31 So, what exactly broke? You mentioned him earlier. Let's just, so people that's sleeping on the rock, what's that broke? David Pearson was the president of Sony epic at the time so what pop daddy is on the record he shot out Dave Mack that's what he's talking yeah yeah what's then became Lisa Ellis spot and then became Donny Einer spot you know that spot keeps getting taken you know that was kind of a severe wrong spot right is it yeah she's not a universal that's kind of how like that's kind of how like that's kind of how like all the solo projects and all of the stuff that was going on with b2k asked only at
Starting point is 02:31:16 that time got put on hold yeah because they sweeped out everybody yeah Yeah, when it became Sony BMI. Yeah, all these record labels at that time. K.P. was the A&R. K.P. was the A&R. Universal bought everything at that point, remember? Like Def Jam, everything got... It was 444. I usually text Holt at this time. What do you say to him when you text him? Just say 444, he's like, shouts out hope another name that kept popping up and you mentioned him earlier you say he's your cousin and yeah you're all mentioned him and we'll wait see just crystal it was crazy because one thing i didn't want to do was Google y'all and base my information off of gossip.
Starting point is 02:32:11 So when I Googled, the first thing that popped up was that. And I was like, I don't want that. So I was like, yo, I went and I dug into y'all music and I'd rather come from that approach. But then the music led me back to there because at some point it was like, yo, Chris Talks. What's up, bro? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:32:32 So I don't know who wants to start a league. I guess it's got to be you, right? Everybody knows it's my cousin. Yes. So let me set up my question so you could answer correctly. Is me looking at nowadays, me looking at you now, and then me looking at, I mean, listening to the records, watching the videos, come back in and see all good.
Starting point is 02:32:58 Then when I Googled, because I have to, and that was the first thing that popped up. You know, Chris Stokes, the dispute with B2K and all this crazy shit and boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And without... You know what I mean? I mean, like, because, you know, I'm familiar, but I'm like, I was living my own world. I was also platinum, so I was also platinum so I need to explain
Starting point is 02:33:26 you know I'm like I'm such a good place mentally right you know I think it's really important you know that me and my cousin get opportunity to to reconcile and you you know, talk things out because family matters should be taken care of privately because a lot of people, you know, do a little too much. Even when I was a kid, I did a little too much. So, you know, I don't want to say too much about that. Okay. Now that's the culture that's ready to talk about. I mean, the culture is. I mean, because you know what know what it is i mean whether we wanted to talk about it or not
Starting point is 02:34:08 that's when you re-google y'all it's the first thing that pops right you know i'm saying is y'all discrepancy with chris though so maybe you're not ready to talk and i don't want you to if you're not you know what i mean but you know um this is management we're not talking about anything else what and i heard you like alluded to it earlier like you know we all went through it you know so what was what was your discrepancy as far as management goes i felt like we were in a space where we we were starting to research you know because it was conversations my new bentley's gonna be you know and it was just like yo well where where's our bread at? You know, what are we working for?
Starting point is 02:34:48 How can you go on tour and not make money? Right. And, you know, shouts out to one of my cousins, man. She gave me a book called This Business of Music. And I started to dip into it a little bit. And I was seeing how, you know, the structure was set up and how the artists get paid. And I'm like, we're not getting our bread. So that was where the discrepancy came in. And what age are you when you realize that this is 17?
Starting point is 02:35:17 A little bit like 16, 17. And then you got the media takes my personal family things that you say. Put them in it and just it's all bad business, bro. Right. It's all bad business. Right. No, finish what you were saying there. But, yeah, that's where the discrepancy developed, you know.
Starting point is 02:35:37 You read this book, you understand it. And, you know, we were kids at that time, so we didn't really know how to go about it. Right. You know, we were kids at that time, so we didn't really know how to go about it. But when it was, it was, it was a Christmas tour. It was a Christmas tour we did. And in the middle of it, it was, it was New Year's, New Year's Eve. They told us we can't go on with the tour because Omari was sick. And he was coughing up blood at the time which was cap.
Starting point is 02:36:06 They knew, we already had the conversation about us breaking up. We were just finishing out the business that we had already signed up for. So, I guess they figured this was the time to end it. So we go back
Starting point is 02:36:22 home and we end up going to Vegas. Raz had met some friends out there that was tied to this big company in the middle of us going on that tour prior to that. And they were like, yeah, come out to Vegas. You know, it's New Year's Eve. We'll take care of y'all. So they flew us out or no, we drove out there. They got us a limo out there and then we flew back on a private jet. But on our way back, we were at the
Starting point is 02:36:51 Clearport and they had the big screen TV in the little lobby area. So we sitting there and CNN is on. No cap. This is like a movie. We're all sitting there and we just happen to be just looking at CNN and at the bottom of the screen and rose by says hit group b2k breaks up we're like yo did you see
Starting point is 02:37:12 that like yo no we're all three together yeah yeah we don't know blood somewhere right we like this yeah I'm impression okay? So when we get back home. Who sent that press release? When we get back home, Big Boy, it's like, yo, y'all come to the radio. Is this true? So we go up there and we're like, nah, we together. Like, you know, we had this plan to leave management. And, you know, old boy kind of like didn't leave with us. We didn't give the whole story then.
Starting point is 02:37:44 You know, we were kind of confused at the time. us we didn't give the whole story then you know we were kind of confused at the time like how did this come out right um so when that whole thing started it was the discrepancy of all right now it's war because you're trying to tear us apart like you're're trying to divide and conquer. You feel me? Like you didn't, the bro just snitched. Now you got him on your side and now you're trying to make it look like we did this and put him there. You feel me? That's when the shelf happened and he came off solo.
Starting point is 02:38:20 So that was the discrepancy. That's where his heart used to be. Killed that. But, but you know looking back on it I was mad when the shit came out because I liked the fucking song I was singing the fucking shit in my head
Starting point is 02:38:39 and I'm like I fucking keep singing oh my god oh man And I'm like, I fucking keep seeing these. But neither did you. Right, right. Oh, my God. Oh, man. We've been in New York there, like, going back on it. And hindsight is like, man, 36 years old. Right.
Starting point is 02:38:59 Like, Chris was 33 at the time. Yeah. I'm like, if I had an artist or a group and one of the lead singers came back and told me, we planned on leaving y'all. And I'm like, well, shit, what am I going to do from a business standpoint? You know, and this is my group. Shit, I might have done the same thing. Let's get this clear. Because we were in that contractually. He never really did anything wrong contractually.
Starting point is 02:39:22 Right. You know, we just signed what we didn't know. You don't know what you don't know. You feel me? That was my point when I was saying, working on the other side of the business now, I see how companies do business. You know what I'm saying? So it's like it's up to you to do it. They capitalize on your ignorance. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:39:38 My nigga, there it is. So in hindsight, it was nothing wrong there, but if I regret something then I need to take some back I was out okay so let's be clear let's be clear right now Swiss beats Timberlake niggas turn in all y'all and say we want smoke for 112 Versus versus pretty Ricky pretty
Starting point is 02:40:18 Pretty wicked. They all the demos are niggas very Miami man. I'll say right now. We got reference Won't All of the smoke Would be 2K Yeah 100% Yeah they wanted it They stole our whole show On the second tour
Starting point is 02:40:31 Yeah Like the second tour We went We went When I made the apology We went to the first show Which was in LA It's the apology
Starting point is 02:40:38 After you was fucking April Now see This is the cool part about it Real quick Real quick Before you say what you Before you say what you This the cool part about it This the cool part about it This the fucking cool part about it. Real quick, real quick, real quick. Before you say it, before you say it, this is a cool part about it, boy.
Starting point is 02:40:45 This is a cool part about it. This is the fucking cool part about it. Take a shot. I'm telling you, listen. This is a cool part about it. These niggas right here is so much of our niggas that what we about to say is only going to make them niggas want to do this versus more.
Starting point is 02:41:02 These is our niggas. So it's like, we just. Man, y'all competitive. Oh, hell yeah. Let's talk about what we talking about. These niggas want to do this versus more. These are niggas so it's like They talk shit to us every day nigga via FaceTime me right and so it's on so we went to the first show These niggas stole our whole show. They literally came out Circled up how we circled up did they dance dance moves, damn near wore the outfits we had on. Goddamn, could you be creative?
Starting point is 02:41:28 You feel me? We saw a little bit of it on the tour. It was honorable. I love you, Pete. I love you, Spack. P is a drinker, too. He drink like a ball. That's home to you.
Starting point is 02:41:44 P is drink with me, drove the same car as same corner at all and then broke off on me. Oh wait a minute You want to talk about the versus nigga, right? You want some other verses, right? You gotta pick up versus from where we left off, okay Before Before versus on tour the first screen I mean the first millennium tour right it was B2K the whole group Pretty Ricky, Mario, Yen Yen Twins, Tiggit and Lloyd right Pleasure
Starting point is 02:42:17 got into it. Well, oh For being on some Hollywood shit cuz we would always Look, no for real cuz we would always I mean we would go and... Look, no, for real, cause we would always... I mean, we here, right? We talking shit, right? I already said this, my nigga, shit. So, we all hang out, we all chill, do our thing, like how niggas do on tour, like, you on tour, me on tour, you be on tour, you might leave before me, after me,
Starting point is 02:42:40 if you were headlining, whatever, I'm game with you later, like, at the spot where we going to, we gonna fuck around, we gonna have fun on tour. Nigga hang out none so pleasure like what deal like you Don't come out hang out in the courtyard like you don't fuck with us like we are hanging out It's on sound check in fucking with each other doing video. What's up nigga got a security like Well Mario's yeah Pleasure ready to get down with the security guard like man fuck that tell that nigga to come out today So pleasure start the versus beef before versus ever started
Starting point is 02:43:08 Nigga started going out don't I sound just like my records Don't I sound every fucking show Smashing don't I sound like my records don't I sound just like my records Okay, let me stop you right now because I know you're going Cause I read the comments shit was crazy comments, but they were saying that's why are we on first Mario? And it's saying this is a real girl like nobody time bubble. You're that no no These two niggas is on the same page. He talking about before that, before all that. These two niggas were on the same page. They was only pre-versus before. Versus.
Starting point is 02:43:49 I'm there, sir. I am there. You're not there. So we'll pick up because you weren't in the verses. I'm there, sir. Because we're already going in the verses to pick up where we left off on the verses conversation. Stay there. They wanted us to sign off on our likeness.
Starting point is 02:44:06 Who? For a documentary in order for her to have a conversation with Amari about us doing Versus with him. This is Michelle the same girl? Yes. OK, man. So we're like, this is a nigga.
Starting point is 02:44:20 Oh. So look. I'm going to say it. So look. No, for real, bro. She should be fired. To each is all so there's a lot of people So before this For this out of nowhere For this before this out of nowhere a documentary came out for marion with the zeus
Starting point is 02:44:46 network and the zeus network and marion got a documentary and they were like yo they reached out to my team kuda and was like yo we got your you know fizz in this documentary you know but we don't have any signatures like we don't have as likely to sign off for so they're like you know but we don't have any signatures like we don't have as likely to sign off for so they're like you know we'll pay him a fee to use like a minute and a half of his footage so they did that but on this dot they still needed paperwork signed you know they're using hours of footage of all of us the performance and everything So we like yo, you know, we sign off but where's the bag? You know what I'm saying? I'm not signing off for nothing even Zeus paid for a minute and a half. You feel me? So what's up? Like?
Starting point is 02:45:37 There's no bag. We just need you to sign off. We're not signing it. So when she said that it was like Are you trying to use this conversation? Like, we need a versus for leverage to get this signed? We're like, we're not signing that. So sorry, Max, to waste your time on this conversation, you know, because this is not where we've seen this going. But we're going to have to respectfully decline and wish you all the best of luck. So then when the versus promos start coming out
Starting point is 02:46:06 there's shots taken at us. I didn't see the shots. There's shots subliminals that we would know because we were on the back side of everything so there were shots taken like what background singers like no before that there were shots taken like this is before the verses yeah Yeah before the promo for the Won't tell y'all cap. I see I see a video come out. They're promoting like oh, yeah Well Mario said this Oh said this that it a cute came out right? with D right and then Mario puts out a video that he recorded on his phone and was like you're gonna bring the guys
Starting point is 02:46:45 out right you know you need the guys and he he was looking kind of dumb in the face like huh huh he was like are you ready are you ready and he was like bro you you better bring the guys out like you know you need them he was like i don't and then he cut the video off right then the next day another promo comes out and it's just oh and d-ray in the studio and d-ray is like yeah so you know mario said he could bring the guys out because they with him more than they with you and he like i could believe that okay it was like oh really like okay so you're setting up to come out and do these B2K records by yourself. You're trying to make it seem like we don't fuck with you.
Starting point is 02:47:30 But it's like, bro, you was willing to have a conversation. You didn't even want to jump on the phone. All right, can I be devil's advocate for a second? Eh? I've been devil's advocate. Come on, nigga. I'm going to be honest. It seems like it's more of y'all beef than y'all beef.
Starting point is 02:47:48 This is from the outside looking in. Damn, he said, yep. Are you agreeing with me? He said, yep, 2K. Was that like, because, because? He got his solo deal first. Fucking me up. I was making a point.
Starting point is 02:48:03 About a week ago, he said point. I don't say much. No, let's listen, let's listen. Let's hear what you gotta say. Because I'm trying to understand this. Because I might have a rebuttal for it. I'ma wait for you. Alright, well if we don't wait, I'ma go too. Oh shit, fuck it, we all made it.
Starting point is 02:48:25 Alright, so let's just be clear. I forgot what you told my last. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 02:48:33 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, I feel like you had a light-skinned contest. But he not light-skinned. Yeah, but he feels like light-skinned. You can't. You can't be in a light-skinned club if you're not light-skinned. But he feels like Turks and Caicos, you know what I'm saying? What the fuck? I had to knock myself out for this conversation. Yeah, you don't know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 02:49:00 I feel like y'all had. This is what I feel like. This is what I feel like. I'm an outsider looking in. I have no idea but I feel like Your relationship turmoil there And what I mean by that and I'm not outside looking there. You can also say oh you bugging
Starting point is 02:49:20 Let me just tell you something. I've been needing these things. Yeah, smoke champs. Smoke champs, man. Smoke champs, man. But this is what I felt like. I felt like y'all was in competition with each other. Y'all two. You and O. And at some point, he felt like competition was over because he became that guy. And when he became that guy, he felt like you should stop competing with him.
Starting point is 02:49:49 And maybe you should have or maybe you shouldn't have. Let me just finish my statement. Maybe you should have or maybe you shouldn't have. Because sometimes the little dude becomes the man. Like one of the illest things about the hood is you know remember the guy his name is little p but now little p name is old dog and now you keep calling him little p but little p is old dog little p is gonna smoke you right he's gonna come home but you're looking at him like little p or whoever or whatever it is so what i i feel like at the end of the day, I feel like what happened was
Starting point is 02:50:25 I felt like y'all had a, you know, like a girl measuring contest in the beginning. And then after it became to that level, he felt like, I'm the guy. I'm Beyonce. Like, please do not come in my dressing room. And not only you were in his dressing room. Here you go.
Starting point is 02:50:50 Now. Finger pop. Now. I have to. His dresses? I have to. Finger pop. I have to.
Starting point is 02:50:57 But you're my friend. I have to agree to disagree. Okay. Only because, one, I was never in competition with him. I never sang a song. And they mean it that way. I positive for you rebuttal there. What I'm trying to tell you is in our minds, we're all artists, right? I mean, this, this, this might separate a lot of us from here in our, in our mind. And that's to be an artist. We have to think we're better than
Starting point is 02:51:21 everyone here to be a great artist. Great on Every artist has every on ego to operate No, you know I can agree with that play the role in damaging me. Okay. Yes 100% not own that and like I said, I'm not proud of that Wow, I'll respect that for me and I apologize for it publicly because I really did mean it. Now, in that moment, I resented the man. You feel me? Which doesn't make it right. Yeah, it makes it worse.
Starting point is 02:51:56 It makes it worse. I'm going to be honest. But in any way, shape, or form, I never felt in competition with anybody. And that's no disrespect to them. But coming out the gate, he was the first one to say it to me. Vince, you know you're the most famous in the group, right? And I'm like, oh, word, that's crazy.
Starting point is 02:52:15 I never cared about that. Nor you could ask my best friend right here. We was worried about, shit, nigga, what you gonna to wear to the show today? Let's get to the mall. Let's get fresh. Nigga, like, I wasn't thinking about who going to see me on stage. I need my moment.
Starting point is 02:52:33 Shit, we was on stage making pranks with each other, putting water in each other's shoes that you knew you was going to have to put on on the next segment of the show. Like, watch that nigga get out there and be splashing all over the place. Like, that's the type of nobody was thinking like ah i gotta be on point to be the most like i'm the most famous nobody thought about that so i wasn't in competition with anybody i was just out there having fun i was a kid you feel me i was enjoying the moment and i wasn't in the moment like i felt like i should have been but i I was by the way let me just tell you something in hip-hop God could be your brother this is Nas and Big this is the best story
Starting point is 02:53:12 Nas and Big had no idea that the world compared them to each other they were actually real good friends if this pictures of Nas and Big's hood this pictures of Nas and Bigg's hood this pictures of Bigg's and Nas hood they were actually real good friends but what happens is the world doesn't want them when y'all the best the world puts y'all against each other and I agree like I said I agree to disagree but I gave my ricks on why I disagree because mentally I wasn't there but you feel me but I can see how you see on the outside looking in so that's just where it's at like because I mean I can't agree with his tactics and especially like me hearing you guys hearing you guys out like I'm gonna be honest I'm so sorry I'm gonna say nice to your face I feel like tell you, I'm gonna tell you. You guys still talking about Omarion? I feel like, I feel like, I feel like his beef is,
Starting point is 02:54:05 what was the beef just between you two? But what makes it real is because he took it out on these two. And it's like, and it's like, that's something, that's something, that's where the crazy shit is. You know what I'm saying? But, but. Oh no, I'm bugging.
Starting point is 02:54:20 It's not, no, no. You're looking at his side. You're not looking at they side. I don't, I don't I don't How about we How about we pause Like I gave you examples
Starting point is 02:54:36 Like with the supposed to be shit I never I never hated on him You feel me? I never tried to like Come on throw a diss record. I remember on my first Oh We got B2K right now, goddamn it. We got B2K right now. Let me ask you something.
Starting point is 02:55:09 Because him being a member of B2K, has he ever had the discrepancy of y'all using B2K without him? We've never done that. And that's been one of the discrepancies. Bro's selling T-shirts with our faces on them. Bro's putting out documentaries with our liken likeness without us signing off on it. Bros doing a lot without our consent.
Starting point is 02:55:30 You feel me? So it's like, damn, bro. Are you in the group or are you out the group? Because you don't even want to talk to us, but you want to leverage
Starting point is 02:55:38 everything you're doing off the name. Can I give y'all one piece of advice? All three of y'all. Not one of y'all say Omarion's name. Y' give y'all one piece of advice? All three of y'all. Not one of y'all say Omarion's name. Y'all keep saying bro
Starting point is 02:55:49 and the such and such and the homie. But we respect that. I'm gonna be honest with you. And I feel that there's still love between Omarion. If Capone was trying to clear a record with me and Capone kept saying cause you know the homie and you know the y'all and the I'm gonna be mad as shit.
Starting point is 02:56:06 Say my name. Say my name. Destiny. He's looking at it. Destiny's child. He's going to watch this. He's going to watch this, and he's knowing. We're talking to him.
Starting point is 02:56:16 It's not a thing. It's not a thing. But people that I'm mad about, people that I'm mad about, I'm going to say their name. You know what I'm saying? I feel like if y'all not mad, just say yo, oh. Because when you say the bro, I'm just being honest, that's how you address the opps. You gotta understand.
Starting point is 02:56:32 Well, you gotta understand. He's not the opps. No, he's not the opps. Listen. Let's be clear. You gotta understand. He's not the opps. You gotta understand.
Starting point is 02:56:39 You gotta understand. Man. When you're getting things, you didn't even let us finish the story about the verses totally forgot the I'll be quiet shots thrown and then you're in the middle of the verse you're getting demolished and then they is writing your obituary in front of you and you say he said you know you're supposed to bring the guys out can't do, he said, you know you're supposed to bring the guys out.
Starting point is 02:57:07 You can't do that. And he said, I sang all them songs. Them is all my vocals. When you know the work we put in, when you know we know the process, when you know we know the real. I didn't understand that part. Okay.
Starting point is 02:57:22 You feel me? Wow. And it's like, damn, bro, you still doing this? You still coming out? Like, why? Mario called him out on the verses. Like, who's really hating here?
Starting point is 02:57:33 Yeah. You feel me? Like, don't do that. Come on, dog. Don't do that. Don't do that. So then after, in all humor, he knew I was the real least thing. We find a Temptations clip that we put up, and we tag him and say, you got served.
Starting point is 02:57:46 Just joking. It's all fun and games. Like, bro, you know you took the L. Like, take the L. You feel me? I laugh about it. You come back, and then you want to say, oh, to my backup dancers. It's like, come on, bro.
Starting point is 02:57:58 Now you're being disrespectful. What about the tweet you sent? The manifesto? Yeah, you sent the tweet that goes that goes into this after this so i'm telling you right now it's like wow now you're taking real shots like you really you really saying like we helped with nothing like you're trying to make create this narrative to the world that we hate on you and but and we we did nothing the backup game opportunity but it's like it's like really is that what it really is so that shit really resonated with boog it was like wow bro
Starting point is 02:58:34 like this is a real shot like this is off the ultimate disrespect you feel me because we having fun we we made light of the shit you know know, we threw up a movie clip, bro. Take it how you want it, you know? But the world didn't say, oh, he's done. The boys just, this is a new beef with Omarion. Nah, it wasn't that.
Starting point is 02:58:56 It was fun and games. Like, yo, hold your L, bro. You knew you should have called this. You knew you should have got on that phone call and not have Michelle talking for you. Is that what their tweet was about So he went in detail on it, bro. You really want this smoke? You feel me because the shot would have been before that up there. Let's keep that shit all the way down
Starting point is 02:59:16 I'm making how we handle that shit. Oh We catch the real respect on the game nori. I mean we saw the little shit when the fan responded to the promotion for the verses and was like Yo, cuz it was like a promote said I'm already first Mario that are y'all thoughts That are you know they do that. She got a room. No, I'll show you Versus this person against that person. Thoughts, y'all ready for this? Whatever they say, right?
Starting point is 02:59:48 In the comments, nigga, it goes, one of the fans say, hey, are B2K going to be out there with you singing the songs, right? He takes it upon himself. Oh, yeah, got that shit right here for you, baby. he takes it upon himself oh yeah got that shit right here for you baby he takes it upon himself that's what he said this is versus days before the B2k nigga you want to show it to the show you I can to see it. He said I am. Let the niggas see it. Let the niggas see it.
Starting point is 03:00:48 Why would he say that? It gets better. I want to show it to you. Yeah, bring it back. Check it out. You want to talk about some G shit, right? You want to talk about some real respect on the brand type shit, right?
Starting point is 03:01:04 So, look. The next thing is my message to her, the blue. Read it out loud. Huh? Read it out loud. My message to her. Read the comment. Nigga, the message, the blue message right there. Read the comment.
Starting point is 03:01:18 Oh, get him, Michelle. No, get him. Get him, Michelle. Like this your boy. If this how y'all want to play and they say huh yeah community really should be reading calm oh wow this is going to be fun if y'all want to play that's what I said and our group check is we had talked about it like yo we only want to go in off this low ass comment you feel me we want to
Starting point is 03:01:44 see some air one we want to send them a message respectfully saying, we see what you're doing, G. Stop. We don't want this shit to go the route that it's going. But if y'all do want to play games, we can do that shit. So the shit progressed from the comment before the verses to the comment in the verses about backup dancers and all that fap singing and all that. No no no no no just saying that he did all the vocals he was the one who song all the songs or whatever right right right so the next day we got on the phone and that's when the video clip came out you want to talk about the
Starting point is 03:02:23 video clip the clip of the temptation. Because we had already sent him a message saying, stop, bro. Like, that was the message to his management. Like, get your guy, tell him to stop. We don't want this to happen. Michelle. Michelle, it's the message. We don't want this to happen.
Starting point is 03:02:38 Stop. But if y'all keep on fucking with us, keep poking the bear, the bear going to wake up. You know what I'm saying? So after that, he goes on the verses and proceeds to keep going with it and make that comment about he is the vocals and he did all the work or whatever. And Mario shut him down like, you know you didn't do all that, whatever. And at that point, we felt like we told him to stop.
Starting point is 03:02:57 So we made light of it like, you're fired. You kicked out the group. Because that's what David Russell was doing in the Temptations, right? That's what we did. It was joking like, all right, you want to disrespect us. The people don't know that we told y'all to don't do it behind the scenes, and you decided to continue to do it in front of the world.
Starting point is 03:03:13 So here goes our shot at you, nigga. You did two shots at us for our one shot. Comes back with an emotional tweet about calling us background dancers. At that point, you're taking a shot at the career, you're taking a shot at the actual craft, as far as like how the brand was really created. I'll take it personal, for a whole other reason than why they took it personal.
Starting point is 03:03:34 Let me stop you for one second. But y'all took that joke, that's funny. But y'all took that joke as being funny, why y'all can't take his joke back as being funny? I'm just asking, to be a definite advocate. Okay, because it was the narrative created around it yeah I started the right to be to carry no no when he's first started the message he said until my three backup dancers he's not surprised I've always
Starting point is 03:03:57 been this way hey no oh hey no oh I ran O. Praying for my downfall. Praying for my downfall. By the way, UPS is hiring. I think it's time for y'all to find a real job. And it's like. Like, that's emotional, my nigga. Like, wait a minute, bro. When did we hate on you, bro? Nah, you ain't say that.
Starting point is 03:04:17 He said that. He said that. He called it biz-walking. UPS is hot. Yeah. I actually just ran into two UPS workers on this little date I had, and I wanted to take a picture with them. Like, yeah, I just got all white.
Starting point is 03:04:31 And Amazon, those former Amazon workers. I like them niggas. Them too. They getting the bag. But yeah, it was like, that's how you getting on this? You telling me, you telling me that Omarion said that about you? I don't think Omarion said that about you. I don't think Tom Yeah, he's trying to create
Starting point is 03:04:46 this narrative like we dislike him or something. Like we hating on him. Like I explained everything to you from the time that we had a few members to the time that
Starting point is 03:04:57 He can't take constructive criticism is what that really is. And I think through over the years we as brothers want to make each other better so we would say certain things to any certain things he just can't take right okay he's still doing things that we did when we were 15 I mean we're not
Starting point is 03:05:12 hating on them and I haven't I don't have much to say about him but I think you know overall back in the day to get back to the to what we was talking about as far as the the comment being disrespectful and putting no respect on the crap, no respect on the process, it's like we all was there when the music was being made. When you on the studio Nori, you got your niggas with you, you might invite like everybody and tell everybody to say, it's nothing. We all worked on that record. That person on me.
Starting point is 03:05:41 Okay. You feel me? No, I'm just saying like- No, I respect that. You might do that. Cardi, you No, I'm just saying I respect this you might do that car Do you know what I'm talking about? Like you might do that shit It might be somebody in the studio that can sing a high note just for the record detection You know what I'm saying? Like y'all go put that on there for me real quick
Starting point is 03:05:55 Like the process of making hit music is not always gonna be the actual person who put the music out If you look at the process back in the day There was always a bunch of people working on a song to make it a hit you know what i'm saying so the fact that he wanted to take credit from everybody who may have put maybe 10 on the record 20 on the record five percent on maybe one record it's like you can't go and take credit for everybody and say that i'm the one that did all of this because me personally i did a lot of work on those albums You know what I'm saying? Even if it was just saying that here was the hook on the first hook on bump on bump
Starting point is 03:06:30 Troy sent the record back to R Kelly and he was like that's the nigga that got the Detection for the record for the hooks right and that's how on the second single girlfriend Awesome, I sung that hook and Troy was like stay in there. I want you to do the first verse and She got hella chippy at that. Yeah, because there's nobody had ever had a lead for a single Aside from him nigga in all of our five see it out That was a friendship on him because in the beginning was was a Mario always the lead single the whole time It sounds like one that I was telling you right now no okay this is what was fucked up this is really this is what really fucked up oh we all were famous but i'll
Starting point is 03:07:10 just keep it a hundred like me and him battle back and forth with like vocals a fan no who was a fan favorite because we had a lot of different ways to be famous it wasn't just about the vocal we had the word with the fanzine shit we had the video shit where they could chime in and just say like who the fuck they fuck with or whatever so it's like he would always want to be more famous than all three of us you know i'm saying because he sung the record you know what i'm saying he was the one in the front and he would battle from who was the most famous or whatever so it's kind of like embarking on your territory that you only hold you know i'm saying you don't hold the most famous you don't hold the most likable you know you hold the only the only thing you hold is that you sing all the leads
Starting point is 03:07:48 You know I'm saying so now they talking about oh on everything Raz is about to sing the second verse Shit shit starting to get broke up on what I hold you do what I'm saying All right now you about to sing a part of the first verse with him y'all gonna split this shit It's gonna be the second single. All right, now. You get what I'm saying? You're starting to lose the grip on the one thing that you really held because you didn't hold all the other things that you really wanted.
Starting point is 03:08:18 So you get what I'm saying? When you start looking at it like, fuck, I'm losing the game that I want to play. The only thing for a nigga to do is break off. And at that point, I said it in the statement, whether it's five people or a thousand people, when we're not there, he knows all of them motherfuckers is there to see him. Let's be clear. You know what I'm saying? And that was the biggest problem.
Starting point is 03:08:44 That was the biggest problem because we were through it No, I'm talking about why all of that shit was cat or why it wasn't why it wasn't right why I was a what why? Like it wasn't cool to setting these background dances you get what I'm saying and the real background thing the background background dance is not It was background dances bro background dances and the reason why you was skating the fuck off is cuz niggas was actually taking leads now
Starting point is 03:09:11 shit was about to change one of the niggas that was the nigga now I was the uh what nigga is bug fans nigga that was me that was all I got nigga and some backgrounds that I didn't get no fucking credit for but I was famous as a motherfucker than ladies love Ladies love Jake Boog. I'm sorry bro. Give it up
Starting point is 03:09:35 How I knew how I knew is because I wasn't I never was a nigga that was in my ego I just knew because I did numbers. I was at my meeting Greeks nigga. I saw how many teddy bears I left with opposed to you I saw how many girls On our second album the label found a way to sell more albums So what they did was not only did we have a group cover on album? We each Cover on out. Oh shit. And during the first week, they did the numbers to see whose album
Starting point is 03:10:10 was selling the most. Pandemonium? Yes. Yeah. So who's? We don't have to get into the numbers. Well yeah, get into it. That was the point of view right now.
Starting point is 03:10:21 One, two. And then four? Yeah. That's how the shit if you really want to be honest. Oh, yes So now mr. Oh what he's already moving to the rapper What I never I never seen that So how do we fix this You never saw what you can project right But but there's a reason for that. You're not cosigning this.
Starting point is 03:11:07 You're not. You're not seeing a record with just the three. He's saying that individual albums were sold with individual faces. Wait. No, the same album was sold with individual faces. I'm saying, same album, individual covers. No, I know, but he's saying he don't cosign it. And that didn't happen I'm gonna be smoking this shit
Starting point is 03:11:28 Hey, everybody put their fucking shields on and hands It's about to happen That didn't happen? That did not happen or you discrediting what I just said? What part was it? I wanna remember it
Starting point is 03:11:44 He said 1, 2, three, and then four. I want to remember it. Do you remember each individual faces on the same house? On the same house. Oh, of course, definitely. But that's what you're talking about.
Starting point is 03:11:50 You just said it happened. Yeah, but he was going deeper. No, no, no, no, no, no. You don't remember it? It was... You don't remember them telling us the sales for each individual person?
Starting point is 03:12:00 Oh, he... No, I never heard that one. Okay. But you don't remember it? I respect it if if you don't remember. Oh, it was like that Three take a shot and four is not here. Bro. How do you fix this, right? How do you fix this? I'm going to fix this.
Starting point is 03:12:31 How do y'all fix this? Oh, I see where we're at. Honestly, I'm going to be 100% with you, boy. I'm going to be 100% with you. It's very simple. Come to the table. Why do I have to talk to you right here, bro? You can pick up the phone.
Starting point is 03:12:48 You can call me. You can call Raz. You can call Bud. Listen, before we were aligned, like over almost two years now, I called Bud. I called Raz. I said, yo, pull up to my house.
Starting point is 03:13:03 I said, let's just talk. I said, nigga, if it's smoke, if niggas want to get down in the living room. We could do that I said, but it's just gonna be us Just us three. Let's talk Change and they did that they showed up and we power out right there in the living room You feel me? You could do that. He could Omarion can do that. He can call us and be like, yo, let's talk. He got nice hair.
Starting point is 03:13:28 He don't want to talk. There's no, there's never been, there's never been a time where we didn't sit down and have a conversation. But it's like, why can't we?
Starting point is 03:13:36 Why he can't go on and play foosball? I just think it's, it's just about building the narrative that he wants. Why he want to play foosball? They know this Open ball
Starting point is 03:13:54 Why Mario I like that. After a lot of shit happened, how does the Millennium New Tour come together? Because that was a lot that took you a whole half a million years. No, no, no. It actually wasn't because before we even did the first Millennium Tour, we didn't know. We all had individual contracts. Later, finding out from the promoter, Garyidry that put the tour on said that Amarion's first contract had a clause in it that if after this first tour and if it was successful He got a guaranteed second solo tour. Amarion always got some new weird shit in his contracts. So he put together a second solo tour.
Starting point is 03:14:38 From the beginning when y'all was together? What's weird shit in the contract? No, when we first signed up to do the first millennium tour he had in his contract a guaranteed second solo tour and then mind you the whole unbothered shit like i just want to really say it's like me and kuda love put together a clothing line called the unbothered so when the whole when the whole april shit came out i put out a post and i tagged the line unbothered club and then we went on the show we had on Unbothered Club shirts or whatever and then after that Mr. Unbothered was created this is messy you feel me it's just like it's like a lot of it's just a lot of like
Starting point is 03:15:23 it's a lot of games played. And it's like, bro, it ain't even that, you know? Like, just come to the table. Have a talk. I mean, overall, man, we really are four kings, man. That we stand on what we brought to the table. You know what I mean? And I think the real problem is he dealing with his brothers, bro.
Starting point is 03:15:48 And you know how when a nigga go away and he want to come back, but he don't really want to deal with the niggas that really keep it real. Like, at least, oh, y'all, y'all might be yes man to him. Y'all might treat him with some form of, like, level. Not literally, I'm saying. I'm saying, like, because you don't know him like that, you ain't got the grind with him like that, and at the same time, no matter how big he get, nigga, I've been that big, you feel me?
Starting point is 03:16:14 I'm still that big. If you come stand next to me today, I'm just as big as you, you know what I'm saying? It's back right, reborn, it's back special again. When we unite, it ain't about how much he did solo They are amazed to see us together, right? So when we do come together and we talk This dude ain't never about to give me no pass on no bullshit. He never bought to give me no pass no bullshit. So That's the conversation. That's
Starting point is 03:16:40 Afraid to happen because we talking about from the wounds why can't nobody fucking call Mario look check see what I'm saying look like that's the conversation that we haven't why can't we do that bro let me finish let me finish that's the conversation that we haven't had since we was 18 years old and the group broke up we came back back and we did the tour. If you listen to the conversation on this documentary, I said, bro, we need to come together and we need to talk before we go on this tour. Because we have not talked to each other in 15 years. And since then, there was some shit. Bro, come on.
Starting point is 03:17:22 You're going to be disrespectful, my nigga? I'm fucking talking. Like, damn. All right, say what you're going to say because I don't do that shit. Go. was some shit. Bro, come on. You going to be disrespectful, my nigga? I'm fucking talking. Like, damn. All right, say what you're going to say, because I don't do that shit. Go. Rock your shit. I said it was weird. All right, but I'm, like, talking to these niggas, you feel me?
Starting point is 03:17:33 All right. No. I just had a talk two years ago. Come on. You feel me? No, it's no shit. Like, just do your shit. If you're going to talk.
Starting point is 03:17:41 It's all game. Comment came out too loud. So, what did you say, nigga? Come on. This is Raz B, ladies and gentlemen. Come on, nigga. Raz B, ladies and gentlemen. I said he's weird.
Starting point is 03:17:54 Like, O is weird sometimes. Like, he's weird. And I'm, he was actually going into detail. Please. No, but at one point, they were saying you was weird, Raz. Okay. We can talk about that. Yeah, yeah. Because you was really okay you
Starting point is 03:18:05 want to end that's gone crazy how so you know I was just young and I had miss guidance and had a great life and still do have a great life because I got my brothers behind me and they still make sure I'm good they love you and but what happens like at one, you was just off. What did they call it? Off the grid? Yeah, he went to China. How long?
Starting point is 03:18:31 Was it China like that? Seven years. My boy had banners up, though. Like, Rasby in the middle of Times Square in China. Like, he had a whole career out there. Was you hanging out with Stephon Marbury? No. Tell us about China, bro.
Starting point is 03:18:44 Tell us about China. No, what's the real question? You want to you know you know China you say you went off the grid and then what happened in China well last I check I read people saying I was being a criminal in China I really was like a Chappelle because he wants to be criminal China bro this drinks him so I feel like I read I read all the fucking shit and I said I was a criminal and I'm like why did you go to China now we're not trying to highlight anything like that let's just what was tell us what was really easy business that much having a good time and try myself an Asian woman in Panama business is great what part of China you is in Shanghai Shanghai I went to Shanghai but I didn't see him while I was there
Starting point is 03:19:48 yo Beijing yeah you had a crib out there I went to Colin's house yesterday he got a lot of big dick in there oh no I don't say much man no we're not being funny we're really asking the question I was actually really out there first that's that's right I thought I was for seven years. You was doing your shit out there. Was he doing music out there? I was partially doing music. He was keeping the B2K legacy alive.
Starting point is 03:20:13 It was B2K China? Yeah, yo, listen. My man was performing B2K award shows. He was performing all the B2K stuff. Bro still know all the routines, man. Let me find out if you had three other Chinese guys that would be D2K with you. Can I say something? Maybe the right dude.
Starting point is 03:20:32 I don't say much, but... This dude right here, bro, people don't know. This guy has been damn near everywhere in the world, bro. And knows everybody. world in the world bro and knows every body raspy is like probably don't worry about don't worry about this is a dream channel right right the mics listen raspy is probably like the most in our generation unknown like connected to like like, billionaires, millionaires, companies that's on the rise, shit that's, like, in the next
Starting point is 03:21:10 10 years, shit that's in the next 20 years. Have y'all brought this network? No, he brings it to us every day. What's up, Shane? To y'all. Every day. To keep it moving. Every day. Every day. Niggas don't even know that. They really don't. There's always one piece of the puzzle that's always missing, no matter how you
Starting point is 03:21:24 prove it to me. I know, that's true. Right. No, it's very true, bro. You don't want to accept that flower? That's definitely a flower, bro. Nah, come on, man. We were talking about being in China, and it's like he went out there and created a whole life for himself.
Starting point is 03:21:36 I mean, I'm saying that's dope. You know what I'm saying? If he says something Uriel about you. And God, he got, bro, the dude connects. It's crazy. It's crazy. You know, he's crazy. It's crazy. He's just humble, you feel me?
Starting point is 03:21:52 Is there something you learned about being out there that changed your mind about coming to the business out here? You just got to learn to grow up, bro. So you felt like you grew up in China? I feel like I grew up in China. China been really, like, when I came back here. Mentally. Yeah, mentally. You grew. I grew in China. China been really like when I came back. Mentally? Yeah, mentally. You grew? I grew in China.
Starting point is 03:22:06 He created a whole another story. He's an expert on Balenciagas. No, but... Nah, man. We not respecting Balenciagas. This is the most expensive sketches you ever seen. We talking about growing up and you said, I'm not growing up. Look at what you see. Where was you last?
Starting point is 03:22:23 Where was you last? Where was you last with the story? Because you left right when it was I'm not growing up. Look at what you see. You're the social. Hey, where was this mother out with the story? Because you left right when it was up. I fucked up. Where was it from? Oh, hey. You forgot to. You was with Ms. 2.
Starting point is 03:22:30 No, he was talking to Ms. 3 the whole time. What? The piss girl left. What? I'm in. What is that? I'm in. I don't give a fuck where we at.
Starting point is 03:22:37 Let's go back to it. I'm in. Brad B, you was good. You, yo. What? On the internet. You a loud nigga on the internet. That nigga loud nigga here, nigga. I'm trying to tell a fucking story. Brad be used to a new joke what is that you allow me gonna?
Starting point is 03:23:05 Would you say I'm sorry For whatever reason. Good, man. That's B2K. That's B2K. That is B2K. That is B2K. That is B2K. That is the fucking heart and soul of B2K, man. That's the heart and fucking soul. I don't give a fuck how famous we all think we was, who was the favorite, all that shit, nigga. The heart, nigga, the soul. And you was the plug.
Starting point is 03:23:16 And you was the... And I was always about the next level. Ain't shit... Like, not being content, not being complacent, like... Because I ain't got no audience. Shut up, nigga. You call me every day. Nigga, you call me every day. I see what I know content not being complacent like I got no audience Hey you winning I can't keep up bro the money
Starting point is 03:23:47 I'm not gonna lie to you Raspy, everybody do say bottle you I mean, come on. Let's just see if you could keep going. Let's just see Let's go. Come on. Don't come on. Look my sister. Look my sister video. I mean me. I'm the also Got your back bro bro I carry you out of there you ain't gonna carry nobody up shit okay I've had one too many drinks hey nigga oh shit motherfuckin cars unlock you got a Tesla no I got the G-Wagon and the other shit. That's nice. So, where's After Party? Where's the VIP shit? Wait, I'm sorry. I'm into everything you're talking about.
Starting point is 03:24:41 I'm sorry, but I feel like you poured a shot. Can we handle that business part first person? Oh, we said before the shot, right? You didn't do it Well, listen, well pour another one got there Hey, man, I'm only my manager It's only these are man is, it's very deep people out there. Sonny D and Boris is your manager. And Mr. Lee is your accountant. You know what?
Starting point is 03:25:13 It's a closed session, B. It's a closed session, B. Oh, shit! You really have a job. I don't get it. I've been doing a good job. I love the heat out of that. Yo, Salute. Come on.
Starting point is 03:25:26 Come on. Ah, shit. Yo, look at my shots. Come here to yours. Look. Mel's diner. Mel's diner. You remember that?
Starting point is 03:25:34 I do remember Mel's diner. You was out there drunk. Or was it me drunk? No, you was OG. That's okay. I mean, you are the OG. He said you paid for his meal. That's right, I did.
Starting point is 03:25:42 God damn it. Bro, I was... Come on. Come on. I saw I was excited. I was sitting there on the left. I mean you are those agents. He said you paid for his meal. That's right. I did Come on I was excited You had I in your shot. Yeah, I'm an ice shot, nigga. Can I get some water? Yeah, you get, listen, I'm being honest. Y'all drink the most water any guest have ever drank.
Starting point is 03:26:09 And you eat that. Not you. I ain't gonna lie. I'm watching these other people. Because you old enough to be sick. But I'm just being honest. Oh, water, baby? I thought you was pulling me out some water.
Starting point is 03:26:17 All that work. I was being honest. I was being honest. I was being honest. I was being honest. I was being honest. I was being honest. I was being honest. I was being honest. I was being honest. I was being honest. I was being honest. Cuz you own enough to your sick, but I'm gonna be honest
Starting point is 03:26:29 I thought she was pulling me out some water So I'm not calling you little physical you fit And I'm gonna be honest with you, thank you I got the OG. I got the OG. I got the OG. You're OG. You're OG. You're OG. I got the OG. You're OG. You're OG. I got the OG. You're OG.
Starting point is 03:26:51 You're OG. You're OG. You're OG. You're OG. You're OG. You're OG. You're OG. You're OG.
Starting point is 03:26:59 You're OG. You're OG. You're OG. You're OG. You're OG. You're OG. You're OG. You're OG. You're OG. I want to, but you know, I want to, I want to, I want to be behind you. The lesson you learned, I learned a long time ago. One of my friends, one of my closest friends to me.
Starting point is 03:27:15 And I just became platinum. Like I just went from gold to platinum, but gold didn't mean that at one point. Gold was like, okay, you, you move to, you move five blocks away. That's what gold meant. Not ever. For real. That's an error. That's an error, though.
Starting point is 03:27:32 Yeah. Gold meant like you move five blocks away. So eventually, I kept getting money, kept getting money. And one of my friends, this is Chicken Delaware. I'm being honest. It's a chicken Delaware. This is real shit. I'm being honest. It's a chicken Delaware.
Starting point is 03:27:53 And this is my man's girl, but he wasn't his girl. So I asked him. I said, is that your girl? He said, hell no. And I was like, alright, cool. So I came back to Delaware. And I never, all right, cool. So I came back, Delaware. And I never did.
Starting point is 03:28:08 And then the third time I came back, I realized that this is what he's saying. He doesn't give a fuck. So she was about to fuck, like, the security guard. So I was like, let me do a little better. Let her fuck the security guard. Let her fuck you? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:28:27 So. I'm going to do her a little better. It was at that moment. I'm just giving you an example. It was at that moment when sometimes people say, I don't do a fuck about her. That's whatever, whatever, whatever. That's a lie. That's a lie? It's a lot that's all right it's a lot
Starting point is 03:28:46 because our masculinity is that it's much as much so it says that I don't care like me personally let me personally know what I know now like even with herb God he said everybody's like yo I didn't like that I've seen the shots with Nelly they were like they use bad he's like yo I didn't like that I seen the shots with Nelly they were like they use bad he's like so what yeah I'm saying I positive to making it all about you right now no I'm listening but when I did see it because I met all y'all notall. How do we push this? How do we push this? Wait, let him finish.
Starting point is 03:29:26 No, no, but when I saw this, I was like, B2K will never be again. B2K will never be what? Again, because. Hold on, hold on. You ain't even hearing one thing. Hold on, I got you. Hold on, hold on. Let's take a shot, nigga.
Starting point is 03:29:40 Let's take a shot. I was probably waiting to get that line out. But how old was you at that time when uh when you hooked up with well uh like 32 33. yeah you you had no idea of what you was diving into because i i think it's something called i think Will Smith said it irreparable and what it means irreparable right at least I got good friends I think at that moment you had entered the world of irreparable but. It's still his question. We got you, we're coming back to you. But, you went on stage and apologized. When you went on stage and apologized, did you feel like all was forgiven?
Starting point is 03:30:38 What was your mind state was I needed to make amends For my actions I respect that And you know I'm raising a little boy And I can't Let that live on And not make amends with that in front of him And to the world
Starting point is 03:31:01 And let him know That wasn't right Pops wasn't right for that you feel me so i'm a i'm a man up i'ma own that in front of you in front of the world and live with that l that's just what it is so moving forward if if if if someone came to you and said, yo, Fez, O believes you, talking about drink champs, when you said the drink champs, what would you do moving forward to make it right?
Starting point is 03:31:35 If you wanted to. If you don't want to, you don't have to answer this question. Say it one more time. Okay. So let's suppose O sees this, because y'all keep calling him the homie. I'm saying Omarion, right? I'm saying, this is me, right? So let's say Omarion see this, because y'all keep calling him the homie. I'm saying Omarion. I'm saying, this is me, right? So let's say Omarion see this, and you say,
Starting point is 03:31:53 because I believe that you're apologetic. I believe you didn't do that. I believe you got caught for that moment. But let's say to move it forward, would you be willing to move forward and say, let me make amends for all of our brothers so we can go and feed our children? Well, I felt like I did that. I did that in front of the world.
Starting point is 03:32:11 Yeah, but the world is stupid, right? Because you thought that you did it in front of the world. The world is stupid. So now we're moving forward. If there's a situation where you can help move forward would you do that why not a band is greater than all of us i love that individually you know what i mean and for the culture for the culture i definitely would you know i would never turn it down i was the original member of the group you know like and this brad's the one who who kept it alive all group, you know? Like, and this, Brad's the one who kept it alive
Starting point is 03:32:45 all these years, you know? Like, kept it in front of us and let us know, like, bro, this is what, this is what it is. This is what's big, you know? And I realized it at a point, like, yeah, like, I'm tripping. Like,
Starting point is 03:33:02 this is what I'm supposed to be doing. You feel me? Yeah, I believe. I think that's the whole thing is that we can't, not to make it all about, you know, O, it's just that we all play a significant role in this shit. The biggest problem that's missing is that we can't have the conversation that we have with you right now nor with him in the same setting without all these people without
Starting point is 03:33:33 the cameras without all of this you know what I'm saying that conversation no no no no no no no no I'm just talking about it. Talk, talk, talk then. No, I'm just saying like, it's just like, for us to do it, all of this that y'all talking about, it's necessary for that conversation to be had. But let me ask something, let me ask something. And I'm going to start with you, Raz, because you said you ain't say shit. I ain't say nothing. What do you think it takes to repair this relationship, to make B2K be too motherfucking That's what I was trying to get to. Why too jelly? You're going to have to create a whole other special just for the B2K segment.
Starting point is 03:34:18 So talk to your partners. We got like spring break, B2K some shit. Cause this is not over. It's not happening. I think, I think it's not happening tonight. No, no. Don't let Razz be. She can make a morning on. Whatever you got to do with stroking ego. Bring it to the table and kiss this bro. That's why you said much tonight. No, God bless. Let me just say something. Hold on, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. say something. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 03:34:45 Raspi, Raspi. Don't be the fucking lifeline, bro. Raspi, let me just say something. Hold on, Raspi, Raspi. Let me just say something. Hold on, hold on. Brother, brother, brother. Can he look at me?
Starting point is 03:34:56 I'm always looking at you. Brother, let me just say something. Because the other day, I witnessed that Havoc from Mobb Deep had discrepancies. Hold on, let me show you. Had discrepancies with his manager named Storm. Storm supposedly did whatever, whatever. But years later, Havoc still has Storm representing him.
Starting point is 03:35:22 Is that a situation that you're talking about? Is this a situation that you're talking about? Is this a situation that you could forgive Chris Stokes to come back in? I'm asking. Listen, I don't know. I'm the y'all. I'm from the y'all. I'm from the other side.
Starting point is 03:35:36 But that's never been. It's never been about Chris because we did the whole Millennium Tour with three separate managers. Well, four separate managers. Wow. It's four separate managers. Wow. And the problem is... It's never been that. It's always been the fact that we just can't come and talk together as one. That's what I'm trying to say. The biggest problem is that we can't get to the answer.
Starting point is 03:35:55 Razzies say shit all night. Go ahead. Go. Go, goddamn it. You drunk, man. It's about time. Yeah, you drunk. It's about time.
Starting point is 03:36:01 Let me get my shot ready. Go ahead. I've learned a lot. I realized I really don't have There's a way to deal with things in this Think we're cold There's a way to deal with things and so I'm just I'm gonna die You're making noise for that
Starting point is 03:36:46 But we would you we gonna make noise if you don't make sense or not. We gotta make noise for things that make sense. We got your back. Let's go. We gotta decode it just a little bit. Yo bro. I like this guy. Let's make some noise for me. Yo, Brass Big. We love you brother. I wanna say this.
Starting point is 03:37:10 We love Raz. We accept Raz for everything. Every group got an ODB. Every group got an ODB. Oh, Raz is the ODB. Yeah, ODB, bro. You just hella random. You feel me?
Starting point is 03:37:24 But it works. Hey, man. I don't accept that Gemini call. I'm a Gemini. Hey, yo. Hey, yo. Sometimes you got to accept being the villain. Sometimes you got to accept being the villain.
Starting point is 03:37:37 I'm not saying you're ODB, bro. I don't think ODB was Gemini, was he? Tupac was a Gemini, bro. Come on. That's some shit. He was a kid's favorite. Nah. Razz ain't never that one. I should say.
Starting point is 03:37:56 When I'm around them, I like Alph. I like Alph. No, Razz, I'm going to be honest. When I Google you, Razz has a lot to say. Why? When I work. Because I wasn't taught wrong. I was taught wrong and okay. No one never taught me, right? You want to add a letter by my bro? He paid for my mail when I was a kid. All right That's right. I'm gonna see my friend. I'm Dilla. I like
Starting point is 03:38:18 Yes Your great good, no, I say that, like, I'm going to tweet with all the kings here. He knew it was hot. He knew I struggled. But he, he didn't have to pay for me,
Starting point is 03:38:33 I paid for me. I told it to the micrograds that the world can't give him money. He told it to us. Respect. I knew what he was saying. So that's,
Starting point is 03:38:39 that's how it is. So, that was my only, that's the love. You remember that, you remember that too. I would love to be everyone's behemoth. But I don't... That's love. You remember that too. I wouldn't be him. But I don't got too much to say.
Starting point is 03:38:50 No. My time is short. But let me just say something. You know, B2K, all three of y'all, you celebrated people's childhood. Oh, yeah. You dominated a whole decade.
Starting point is 03:39:11 You dudes did what you had to do, what you're supposed to do, and how you're supposed to did it, and you did it. Yeah. And I was excited. My friend, you know, Cardan. I call him P.R. Cardan because I'm old school. Your mom n know, Cardin, I call him PR Cardin, because I'm old school. Your mom, nigga, Cardin, he said, I got pizza, KP. I said, there's no way.
Starting point is 03:39:33 Because what y'all mean to the culture and what y'all did to the culture needs to be saluted. It needs to be having flowers. Y'all need to understand that y'all changed the trajectory other than new addition and the Jackson fucking five I've never seen so many daughters getting fucked I mean I never see so many people like like, I kid you not, like, because, you know, I've been in the industry. I'm so deep in the industry at this time.
Starting point is 03:40:11 Everybody is like, yo, I need fucking B2K. And I'm like, who the fuck? What the fuck? And they're like, oh, shit, B2K. I'm like, oh, shit. And it was like, oh, shit, this is a real deal. This is the new, new edition. Can we recognize? can we understand?
Starting point is 03:40:28 And then the whole, that's the reason why. Beast K was not the new edition. Like, you took another shot? Let's be honest, you don't want to out-drink me on my show. This is not the way this works. I'll drink it too. Come on, I'll drink it too. Alright, that part's not true.
Starting point is 03:40:43 No, y'all want a new addition to the new addition. Mm, another chauncey, you can do this. Yeah, yeah, look at this. Rad beat. Yeah, but God, listen, this is how we saw it. I'm an outsider looking in. And I'm like, that's the only people I've seen since new addition that had them girls coming out.
Starting point is 03:41:00 Influence or talent-wise? Talent-wise. I'm saying impact. I'm saying visually impact. Visually impact. Come on, group like that. So, look, big yourself up. Why you don't want to take your own props? What you talking about?
Starting point is 03:41:12 You ain't gonna sit in no flowers all night. You taking your own flowers back. I don't like it. Come on. Dead ass flowers? Niggas talking about trash. They're not dead. This is a beautiful box.
Starting point is 03:41:22 A bouquet. I don't want fucking flowers. Like, give me a trophy. That is a burger Give me a trophy trophy So that appreciate that strategy that's right some point that appreciate yourself. I love rap You can tell you can't really want to know who comes I can fetch my point good five people You like you like that no mistake shot we respect you I appreciate that man. You gotta be like, yo, damn, we did something special, man. Now you did something special, bro. In case y'all don't know. And I just want y'all to know, man, which I mean to the culture,
Starting point is 03:42:32 which I mean to people, B2K was really an anomaly. Y'all really came out there monkey foot and doing the fuck y'all had to do. We don't really care about the breakup. We care about y'all, you know, maintaining and keeping that camaraderie together. And we want to salute y'all.
Starting point is 03:42:51 That's why we gave y'all flowers. Thank you. And we want y'all to know that y'all appreciate it, bro. You know, over here, you know what I mean? And drink champs. And we love y'all, man. God bless you. Keep it rolling.
Starting point is 03:43:02 Keep it rolling. Keep it rolling. Keep it rolling. Keep it rolling. Keep it rolling appreciate y'all for even allowing us to come no no no for real no come on man I just told us to accept our flowers. Absolutely. You know, except yours. Y'all have created something for the culture for us to be able to come on here and clear our name. To be able to come on here and speak our peace. Well, anytime you want to clear your name.
Starting point is 03:43:36 So look. Yo, Razzby. Check it out. Anytime y'all want to clear your name. This is y'all platform. What you did for us is it's what you know others are trying to accomplish with doing documentaries the numbers that y'all did the numbers that y'all do you just allowed us to just you know clear our name on a major level through your platform bro
Starting point is 03:43:58 and that's love you know what i mean because now we got this you know our voices getting heard through this you know i mean in a place where last week we couldn't speak nowhere to get our voices heard like this, you know what I'm saying? So y'all made that vessel for us, bro. But that's cool. They can always speak. Yeah. We got y'all. Come on.
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