Drink Champs - Episode 334 “Rock The Bells”

Episode Date: September 30, 2022

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode, we travelled to New York for LL Cool J’s “Rock The Bells” festival!!  We chop it up with a variety of guests like Ice Cube, Onyx... (Fredro Starr & Sticky Fingaz), Fat Joe, Peter Gunz, Cipha Sounds, Peter Rosenberg, Lance Un Rivera, Spliff Star & LL Cool J!  Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!! Make some noise!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com  Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps  DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions  N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreaga   Check out our Culture Cards NFT project by joining The Culture Cards Discord: Link below 👇 https://discord.gg/theculturecardsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:35 It's Drink Champs, motherfucking podcast. Where every day is New Year's Eve. It's time for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfucker. Motherfucker. Yeah, boy, it's going down. We got motherfucking Arlenty the Bill in bed. Tell them to come. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:54 Yeah. Now, you're just before. We got no reanimation, no. Hey. Yeah. Now, you're just before. Yeah, yeah. Both of y'all.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Yeah, yeah. I know you're originally from Brooklyn, but you lived in Queens as well. Right. You know what though, I lived in every borough in New York. Every borough. So I'm a New Yorker to the heart. Brooklyn, Queens, Bronx, Manhattan, uptown, every place except for Stanford, pick up the Wu-Tang.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Shout out to you. Fire. And that's a fact. Fire. So, what does it mean for you to just get off this rock the bell stage? Cause I assume, like, I got the call, LL called you guys directly.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah, directly. So we was the last niggas on this shit. Right. No way. We was the last nest. I had to make some calls like, yo, hold up. Y'all niggas. The last niggas.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Y'all doing something in Queens. You know, it was like, we love Onyx. Boom, we came through. We was the last niggas to really be on the list. Wow. I'm a man. I'm going to tell y'all something. What?
Starting point is 00:04:46 I was in Russia with y'all one time. I had mad fun with y'all in Russia. But with that being said, this girl just got nine years. I was smoking weed with y'all in Russia on the regular. I lied. That's what I'm saying. Spike Z-Bo.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Yo, Spike Z-Bo. Spike Z-Bo. Yo, that's some bullshit because they got weed in Russia. They might be coming to get y'all. That's what I'm saying. Spike Sivo. Yo, Spike Sivo. Spike Sivo. Yo, that's some bullshit because they got weed in Russia. They got weed in Russia. They got gumbo. Them niggas got real shit out there. You know what I mean? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:14 So for her to get knocked for some weed, I'm like, yo, my nigga, man, I've been smoking weed in Russia. But I never brought weed to Russia. No, I never brought weed to Russia either. Nah. No. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? what I'm saying? Nah. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:05:25 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I never brought it myself. But they, but they, but they, she didn't bring analog weed. She brought digital weed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do it still got a trouble. That's where she got that digital time.
Starting point is 00:05:43 But I think they gave her the nine years just to be with her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They know what they're doing, all that political bullshit, man. So a lot of people don't know, man. I've been on tour with you guys, and I see how much you guys tour. A lot of people don't know. Like, you guys are not just America's heroes.
Starting point is 00:06:03 You guys are global heroes. Yeah, yeah. How does it feel to be able to go to Poland tomorrow and sell out a concert? not just America's heroes, you guys are global heroes. How does it feel to be able to go to Poland tomorrow and sell out a concert? I mean, it was a start, you know what I'm saying? It's like, we started to focus on Europe, because we noticed when we go to Europe, the crowd anticipation is way iller.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Because they don't get American hip hop over there. Yeah, as much. As much, you know what I'm saying? Told y'all niggas, this is what we hear. So you go over, the fans is crazy, merch is selling, everything is good over there. So we about to go to Spain tomorrow. Yeah, it is, too. Or Monday, yeah. It's legal, man.
Starting point is 00:06:34 We're on it, too. We got to think outside the box. Shout out to Good Friday Entertainment. You know what I'm saying? Always got us on the road. But you know, every time we do a show with Shaw, it's always crazy. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. I want to go back to Europe with y'all.
Starting point is 00:06:46 I had the most fun with y'all. And what's crazy is Sticky is crazy because he work out and then drink right after it. That nigga be drinking in the show. Yeah, boy. I'm like, Sticky's crazy. I know. That nigga's wild. I remember Sticky filming a video, smoking and holding a camera. Yo, listen, listen, listen. I
Starting point is 00:07:15 Tell niggas sticky is the best rapper director this ever Ever been I brag about you when you not around I mean like yo if I ever had a chance when I get my video, I'm giving my budget to stick That's right. I say this when you're not on the show. I say it when you're not on the show. Because I ain't going to lie, I shot a video with you, and I couldn't believe how serious he was. Like, he got on the floor. He was like, you know what, move this way.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I said, yo, Sticky, your shirt's going to get dirty. And he's like, fuck that. And I'm looking at Sticky. I'm like, but we in Hollywood. We in Hollywood. I seen that shit. And then when I see the video, I'm like, but we in Hollywood. We in Hollywood. I seen that shit. And then when I seen the video, I was like, this nigga is crazy, but he's quitting Tarantino. He edits this shit to him.
Starting point is 00:07:52 A lot of niggas don't know you are Sticky Tarantino. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I appreciate you. Sticky Tarantino. Listen, you rap niggas, this is really what we got to do. We got to start doing shit like that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:08:08 Like hiring each other. You know what I'm saying? Keeping it in the family. Hip-hopatism. Hip-hopatism. Yeah. Hip-hopatism. But we all, nigga, we've been all coming up with our own video concepts from the start of this shit.
Starting point is 00:08:20 We just never got credited for this shit. Like, we've been directing our shit. Right. You know what I'm saying? We was just giving our budgets to other niggas to our shit. Right. You know what I'm saying? We was just giving our budgets to other niggas to fuck up. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? But now we realize independently grown up, we can fuck up our own budget.
Starting point is 00:08:31 What you like better, independently or major? You know what's funny? The name of my company is called Major Independence. Independent. Independence. That's right. Independence. Freedom.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I like it. Freedom. I like it. Now it works because Def Jam put money money into the market and for our brand. So we don't need these niggas no more. You know what I'm saying? They already built it up already for us to go running. So you know you just gotta curate your brand and make sure that shit keep working.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Right. That's all. You know that. God damn it, man. God damn it. Make some noise for that, bro. But we will accept the bag up front. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:04 Yo, do you... Make some noise for that, man. But we will accept the bag up front. You know what I'm saying? Yo, do you... People keep throwing around this Queen's tour. LL. Nas. Norvy. Capone and Norvy Yeager.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Excuse me. Because I ain't coming by myself. That was special. When Capone came out, that was fire. Tragic Gaddafi. And Gad Capone came out. That was fire. Tragic Gaddafi. And Gaddafi. Fire.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Onyx. Onyx. Core Mega. Come on, son. Do you think we should do a Queens tour? Yes. Why we ain't do it yet? Not a tour.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Just heavy. Say it again. Just spot dancing. Say it again. Big cities. The big cities. You know what I'm saying? Why we ain't do it yet?
Starting point is 00:09:46 Because technically, this is like a starter of it. You get to see us. I even see Flush and Mike Geronimo out there. I love Mike Flush. Yeah, yeah. I got to see them. Yo, it's crazy because we from Southside. Like you said, Flush and them niggas, they from Flush.
Starting point is 00:09:59 You know what I'm saying? Shot skills, recipes, shot skills. Shot skills. Lars Poe here from Flush. Lars Poe, yeah. Y'all from Iraq, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, to Shy Skills, rest in peace to Shy Skills. You know what I'm saying? Lars Poe here from Flush. Lars Poe is here. Y'all from Iraq, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, from Westside, Westside Queens. It's different.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Watch the Queens. I was telling my niggas, Queens is all over. You got Stainfield niggas, you got some farmers, niggas from Southside, you know what I'm saying? This shit crazy. I was filming this TV show called Flatbush Misdemeanors for Showtime, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And you had a hotel right down the block from QB. So I said, you know what only get some fucking fried fish Girls, no, you walk down there. I walk down there. You got the nods. All right Yeah, I see mad things for my nigga, right? boom in front of the fish place I walk up I say yo, if I don catch eye contact with me they won't see me the fuck out here? oh shit stick out! it's crazy!
Starting point is 00:10:51 I was the doofus! it's the doofus! my four window! that's my only gangsta what's it over? that's wild QB shout out to QB QB is one of the funnest places in the world make some noise for the audience over You know both your niggas is real niggas anyway
Starting point is 00:11:25 What's up nigga Queens in the building Come on, Lord Ness. I love you, man. I love Lord Ness. What up, man? How you? Lord Ness. Lord Ness came in with us. Yo, listen. Lord Ness been the same nigga for 44 years. Lord Ness came in with us, man. The same nigga. He and Jay-Z. Everything.
Starting point is 00:11:33 You know what, bro. That's a good nigga right there, bro. Yeah, but listen. I got my monkey pox gloves on. Who? Monkey pox? Yeah, yeah. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:11:41 We could, yeah. I'm drinking Polo, boy. I'm drinking Polo. I'm drinking Polo. I'm drinking Polo. I'm drinking Polo. I'm drinking Polo. I'm drinking Polo. That's a good Yes, so it's crazy it was crazy hot on stage But the crew is good to see you. You know what I'm saying? But the crowd was crazy. It's just good to see, you know what I'm saying? I'm a fan today. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:08 I'm a fan of hip hop today. Me too. You know what I'm saying? As much as being a part of this shit, I'm a fan of this shit. You know what I'm saying? When I see Nori and all the niggas, I'm like, oh shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm a fan of this shit.
Starting point is 00:12:16 What you think about LL putting all this together and big up to Nori for talking about starting a... Queen's Show? No, no. A health insurance union for the old school rappers. You know I'm starting that. A SAG for rappers. Yeah, I'm starting it. Is it a SAG for rappers? Yeah, I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:12:51 Yeah, because Right everything actually actually wrote me a letter to my crib you say big they got big down Yeah, that's the neutral. That's the neutral. That's the neutral. Yo, but I just wanna say this though. The Rock the Bells wasn't even LL shit back in the days. Some niggas took his shit and was rockin' with it. He fought for it. He got his shit back. Now, this is how it really supposed to be. That's the real shit. At first, all the Rock the Bell concerts, that wasn't even his shit.
Starting point is 00:13:21 But we know he brought that to the game. He got his shit back. LL Cool J is hard as hell. Not anybody I'm kidding. You tell. I'll excel. They all fail. You rock the bells.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Come on, man. Ah! Big up, Quigg. Shout out to my little boy, yo. No, but that's real shit, though. That's real shit. How would this look going on tour? Like would you be taking this shit all around the world?
Starting point is 00:13:48 Rock the bells? Yeah, rock the bells. That would be crazy. That would be crazy. Because I'm going to tell you this. Rappers who have been in the game for a minute, we got classics, the niggas are still young. I don't give a fuck how old a nigga is. When he get on the stage, the nigga 18 again.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Scarface, all the niggas, you know what I'm saying? Niggas are still doing this shit. You got a lot of, you know, like Ozzy Osbourne. They go out, they sell out stadiums. Why we can't do that with hip hop? We all are old school legends, you know what I'm saying? We just gotta come together and make sure the budget is for every, because it probably makes a lot of money. It's the number one selling genre in the world. Fashion, podcasts, any fucking thing we put our hands in, it's going to be number one. You know what I'm saying? So the tour's going to be number one too. Nas hit me, and I'm going to go on a couple of dates with him and Routain.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Nice. Yeah, I heard about that. Nice. Nice. That's a hot tour. That's what it's called, Garza? I think so. That's a hot tour. We's what it's called, Garza? I think so. That's a hot show.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Oh, man. That beat, we was on that bitch too. Oh, wow. That's a hot show. I heard a hot show. Yeah. Am I right, bro? I was supposed to have Q-Tip come out here tonight.
Starting point is 00:14:55 I think, come on, Q-Tip is in the crowd. Oh, he in the crowd? You lying? Yeah, he chilling. Q-Tip in the crowd? Yeah, he in the crowd. That's my Aries brother, man. Shout out to Q-Tip, man.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I love Q-Tip. Shout out to my Aries brothers, man. Shout out to Q-tip. I love Q-tip. Shout out to my Aries brothers, man. My Aries worldwide. I see them niggas, man. Growed up. I'm a flip-flop of Aries. What's your sign? April 1st, same day.
Starting point is 00:15:12 My sign is danger. What's your birthday, man? April 18th. April 13th. April 1st. Alright, cool, cool. Yo, Alex, thank you all so much. I love both of you.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Thank you all for coming out, man. I ain't gonna lie. Let me tell you something. When people ask me, you know, I miss going on tour, I miss going on tour. I miss going on tour. I miss going on tour. I'all so much. I love both of y'all, bro. Thank y'all for coming out, man. I ain't gonna lie. Let me tell you something. When people ask me, do I miss going on tour,
Starting point is 00:15:29 I can honestly say this. Yeah. I only miss going on tour with y'all. Come on, man. And come on. And come on. I can't lie. You know what we doing, man.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I can't lie. I can't lie. I like strip-shitting. I like doing that, too. I like doing the extra. I like doing the sticky and the federal. Hey. And y'all come downstairs by yourself.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Hey. Y'all like, yo, y'all coming to Amsterdam to Weed Squad. We're not doing that. We don't. Let's make this a part of our audience. Come on. We love you, man. Yeah, nigga.
Starting point is 00:15:52 We out, man. Let's go see it. We got motherfucking nigga Ice Cube about to get on stage. Let's go see this shit, nigga. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yo, yo.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Leave the ace. Take the heart liquor. Leave the ace.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Leave the heart liquor. You can take that. You can take that. Tequila. But we need those two. We need those two. Yeah. Yeah, you can take that. Take the heart lick and leave the ace. You can take the killer, but we need those two. We need those two. Take the heart lick. Yo, right now, fresh off the stage, my brother, Joey motherfucking Crack. Make some noise. I just want to say, Joe Crack, man, I love you so much.
Starting point is 00:16:24 I know you love me. I know you're one of the people that when I'm winning, I know you're on the sideline like this. You better fucking believe it. I love that, bro. Thank you. I'm going to tell you right now. It's a year since the Dipset Locks battle.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Yes. And when I did the recap, I said, well, COVID is in there. Well, COVID is in this fucking room. You gotta believe there's 10,000 niggas out there. It's in there. It's in there. You know what, Mike?
Starting point is 00:16:55 You might have to sit down for five days or some shit. RAB, you might have to sit down five days after this interview. And y'all is in the building. And y'all is out there. Joe, did you see my performance? I was down five days after this interview. Yeah, yeah. And y'all was in the building. And y'all was out there. Yo, did you see my performance? First of all, you down the block from your house. Yes, I am.
Starting point is 00:17:11 So I expected nothing but that. Yes. And you sleep on yourself. You got the biggest hits in the world. God damn it. You a fucking smash anthem killer. And you came out there. What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what.
Starting point is 00:17:31 If this shit ain't going crazy, there's something wrong. Yes. I missed it, Joe. I didn't think I missed it. As long as they got a dollar. Listen. Forget it. Jack, you're on the shoot game.
Starting point is 00:17:45 As long as they got a dollar, we here. That's it, that's the one people say. Yo, Joe, how you get to the back? Hold on, hold on, you got it, you got it, you got it. Let me take that off for them. Yes. What's that called? Is that a chandelier? No, it's a chandelier.
Starting point is 00:17:58 What's that called? It's called an avalanche. It's called an avalanche. Oh my God, I'm sorry. I am sorry. What are you talking about? It's an avalanche. It's an avalanche. It's an avalanche. It's an avalanche. Oh my God, I'm sorry! I am sorry! The Avalanche!
Starting point is 00:18:07 The Avalanche! Let me tell you something, this shit been in every ghetto Chinese restaurant. Every soul food joint. Oh, Boulet? You got a big version? He's busy. He's everywhere. This watch has made a guest appearance in every hood. In every state. Man, they love it.
Starting point is 00:18:25 They love to see your arm, man. I see it great. Everybody knows Fat Joe. They get some of the niggas that be on the news. They look like they the niggas the news is looking for, your arm. But you got a show with the guy from Black-ish. What's his name? Yeah, Kenya Barris.
Starting point is 00:18:39 It's based on my book. I wrote a book called The Book of Jose. It's coming out in November. I'm waiting to do the real drink chance. The Fat Joe because of the book. And the book already is so crazy. We already got a deal with Showtime. Doing the Fat Joe, The Book of Jose.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Congratulations. Let's make some noise for that. Let's make some noise for that. Fat Joe. Papito Shampoo. Come on, Papito. You're trying to leave me out. Let me try to leave you out. What's do that. Yeah, man. Man, Joe. Papito Shampoo. Come on, Papito. They trying to leave me out. Let me try to leave me out.
Starting point is 00:19:08 What's wrong with these guys over here? They trying to leave me out. Let me tell you something. My wife in the front window, she said, oh, shit. Papi Shampoo. She said,. This is true. He's not a liar.
Starting point is 00:19:19 No, I'm not a liar. Come on, Papi. You been 25 years in the game. I'm trying to bring Scott Storch in. He want to come. Find me, Scott. Full of shit. By the way, we got.'re 25 years in the game. You ain't want to come. Full of shit. By the way, let me just tell you something. I went to DJ Khaled's house the other day, and I couldn't get one word in.
Starting point is 00:19:36 He said he was stuck in you the whole time. You can't even talk. I just let it go. No, fuck it. Yo. I'm like, I can't go like this, Joe. You're not talking. You're not. You're not just going to say! I'm like, I talk a lot. You don't just go like, I'm gonna win. I'm gonna get mines off.
Starting point is 00:19:52 And I can't. I keep on, I keep on. I gotta give up and say some shit like, yo, let's go eat. Alright, fuck it, let's go. He won't let you get it off. By the way, let me just tell you what he's doing. He's talking to me saying, I got the biggest.
Starting point is 00:20:10 They're mixing the Jay-Z record behind me. I don't want to be like, can I hear it? I'm just hearing it. I'm looking like, this is the biggest. By the way, Khaled, I'm very proud of you, bro. I'm very proud of your consistency. I'm very proud of you always representing Terror very proud of you consistency I'm very proud of you always
Starting point is 00:20:26 representing terror squad because I'm terror squad as well so I'm always proud of that and I went to a script the other day I swear to god Joe and I just had to shut the fuck up well you can't talk I can't talk I just get it off and everybody laughs at you they know you're not talking. Yeah. You're sitting there, you're like, yo. And I love this little shit. He's serious. He's serious. Listen, that's my brother. I love him to death.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Yo. I'm so proud of him. He's still in the game, killing it. Killing it. New hits. Killing it. New shit. His album is crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:58 And I'm so proud of my brother, man. Yes. And this shit, he look like Mr. Pete that died on here. Is Mike ever going to hear it? Y'all got Mr. Pete weed? Is Mike ever going to hear a Fat Joe Drake record? I've been trying to hear it myself. Every time I talk to Drake, we talk, not about music.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Listen, he want to hear the story. Yes, he loves it. Problem is the story's on real. I didn't even wanna say it's real. So, you even love Fat Joe, you gotta take it with a grain of salt. Cause you know everybody wanna live their legacy, everybody think they a gangster, everybody.
Starting point is 00:21:39 And then there's some niggas who really is, and some niggas really ain't. Know what I'm saying? So, they gotta swallow, it's a hard pill to swallow. Yes, something they gotta swallow is a hard pill to swallow. Yes it is It's all a pillow spot. But when I put the book all they come out They gotta say I'm the most full of shape guys in the world, but let's stay focused because you call it Drink and it's a lustrous like dinner meeting with Melissa, Chef Melissa. Chef Melissa, I see Drake. Yeah, Chef Melissa. Drake, my man, I love Drake. I know Fadjo.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Like, listen, let me just say something. I don't know everyone in the world. I know Fadjo. I know my brother was like, when am I getting my hook? I definitely said that. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? He's heard this way.
Starting point is 00:22:21 He's heard this way. He's heard this way. They say some shit, right? Because the guy, Pharrell, Kanye, Drake, don't ask me why. For years, Pharrell would sit me down and be like, yo, tell me your story. Tell me about Diamond D. Like, they love my stories. Drake come just for the stories.
Starting point is 00:22:43 So I'm over there telling them all types. Did you really make the guy drink piss more than y? I heard it goes down right in the back. I said yes it does. Yes it does. Right in the back. And so the shit is, he come for the stories. Well you know I gotta slip in there like, yo Bobby man, when we getting one in? Now let me tell you, your cousin is the infamous, he's terrible squad.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Oh, oh, oh, Calito. Calito. Calito drink all your liquor. You know I don't drink. Yeah, he drinks all your liquor. So whenever I do a show or host something in Miami, he will come with some other niggas and drink all my shit. He's Puerto Rican.
Starting point is 00:23:18 He's Puerto Rican. He's Puerto Rican. Listen, I'm going to leave with this. We go booby trap, right? We in booby trap. Right? I don't know. This guy, he know how to fuck up a moment.
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Starting point is 00:23:46 So I'm in booby trap We do live, we do baby trap He's having the time of his life He got all the bottles for free So he's sitting with me So I look at the stripper She's like, you're the man, you're the herb So she's looking, I'm looking
Starting point is 00:24:02 He comes in my ear It's like five in the morning, he says, Papi, Lord, ain't I got people watching you from all over. Don't look too loud. They're watching, they're watching. Papi, they're watching. Yo, I love you, Drink Champs. I'll see you in November. They watching, they watching. Bobby didn't watch it. Bobby don't. Yo, I love you Drink Champs. I'll see you in November.
Starting point is 00:24:28 God damn it. Thank you, Vanjil. Rock the bell. Rock the bell. How you doing, my brother? Let's make some noise for Beat It motherfucking Guns. So, let's get straight to it, man. Y'all had that great, one of the greatest records of New York City history.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah. It was for the Bronx. Rap shit probably went on. Let's tell you where you from. Uptown, baby. Uptown, baby. Tell them, talk about it. Ah, man, you know, in the Bronx, we was going through it.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Everybody else, you know, Queens was on fire Brooklyn was on fire. So I Bronx you know, I had a saying Whenever we went to the tunnel and shit like that, you know, everybody like Brooklyn Please so I thought this change it wasn't for the Bronx, rap shit probably never would be going on. And all I hear you say, uptown nigga. Uptown nigga.
Starting point is 00:25:30 And that was the start of the hook. But you know, we did the record, and the misperception is that we got sued. We got stuck up. They wanted 120,000 cash. It was all the publishing. That was everything. That was everything.
Starting point is 00:25:43 All the publishing. That was everything. So it was bittersweet. It got us out there, That was everything. All the publishing? That was everything. So it's bittersweet. It got us out there, but you know, when you hear that shit on TV, I don't see none of that. Who would've got that shit? They used to want it that way. The people that said food was good.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Oh, word. Yeah. Like a rock. Yeah, that was it. That's what that was about. You used to write for all the... Hold on, hold on. You wrote sex...
Starting point is 00:26:02 Hold on, hold on. I wanted to ask you about something. Uptown. So, me growing up, Uptown was like Harlem to me, I thought. So Uptown is really the Bronx? Well, it depends on who you talk to. You talk to somebody in the Bronx, we don't call it Uptown. You talk to somebody from Harlem, you know.
Starting point is 00:26:14 We always felt like it was further Uptown. What, is that what, past what? What street? Nah, man, I'm from 174th, born and raised. Oh, that's Super Uptown, yeah. That's actually a little too early. Really? So what's that?
Starting point is 00:26:28 Read it for me. Read it south, bro. Okay, 157th. Oh, so that's where I'm from. 174th, that's where I'm from. You can go first. Yeah, so that's where I'm from, man. That's what it was about.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Earned me the cover. We got the cover of Sauce. I was on the cover of sauce with you, but Now we're off, yo, god damn it. That's right. We're gonna cover the sauce together. Oh shit, hey, Peter Rosenberg, say it to me! God damn it, come on, come on! Yo, Pete, let me hold this. Yo, join up. Yo, get Peter Rosenberg the chair!
Starting point is 00:26:59 Yo, you can smoke chairs. Smoke chairs, please. Rosenberg, what's up? Get Rosenberg the chair, somebody. Bring the chair, bring, yeah. You broke the chairs. Bring the chair. Bring the goddamn chair. Yo, listen, I'm going to be honest with y'all. You're going to stop staying outside. For me, I got nothing.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Gracias, papo. So Peter and Peter. That's right. Peter and Peter. So let's be clear. On the Peter. Let me get my poop. Let's be clear. On the show, he's a cheater. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Peter's a cheater on the show. Are you a cheater, Peter, in real life? At this stage of my life, I am so the opposite of that. You have no idea. What's the opposite of that? I'm the straight line walker. I'm the most straight line walking-est guy you'll ever meet. There's been opposite of that? I'm just straight line I'm the most straight line walking this guy you'll ever meet Lots of therapy long to their nori. Listen, I fell in love with a woman from Queens
Starting point is 00:27:59 Only people who in love have dogs, you know If you don't have a dog, I don't do you know in love. No, by the way, speaking of which, my dog was disrespected on your show. Oh! I did have a big dog at one point. No, no, no, not- Yeah, well you took- you, but then Jason Lee came on here and said, Fuck his dog. Oh yeah, Jason Lee just shitted in your dog. That was the only thing that offended me. He said all kinds of shit, but the only thing that got me was when he said,
Starting point is 00:28:20 Yo, fuck his dog, I was like, my god. He said your dog ain't cute. No, see now he's lying. Now, so he made some points. I was like my god it's a dog see now he's lying he made some points that was a lot you got a dog I got a corgi mix beat it right there beat it wait
Starting point is 00:28:36 I got a bulldog mixed with shit to a pit what? it's a bullshit pit a bullshit pit a bullshit pit by A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit.
Starting point is 00:28:48 A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit.
Starting point is 00:28:56 A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit.
Starting point is 00:29:04 A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. A bullshit pit. perform, the artists perform, what is it, digital playlists. What you said? You know what I'm saying. That was a brother's sight for sounds. What you think about the Rock the Bells after, you know, coming back after COVID and everything's been shut down and, you know, we starting back up and trying to bring the old school hip hop back.
Starting point is 00:29:20 This lane's been wide open. Like, honestly, this year at summer jam i was like really telling ebro and others i was like we don't have enough old school acts on the lineup and i'm not saying that even on some respect for hip-hop i'm saying it on some people like seeing acts they know because the acts that you hear on the radio right now you don't have a connection to their one song you gotta the dip sets the loxes the Loxes, the Norys, to me those are summer jam staples that should always be there. So there's a lane here for Rock the Bells.
Starting point is 00:29:50 You gotta think of Rock the Bells like a DJ set, right? The old school artists don't have to do an hour set. You do 15, 20, 30 minutes, you throw all your hits in there, do a couple of features, it's gonna rock. Everybody knows these songs when you play them in the club, so why wouldn't it work on stage? Let's also get to the point. Y'all got beef with Joe Button.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Nor is it a stage now, the show's so poppin' that he doesn't even have to like ease his way into the shit. He just come all out with it. I didn't even know that. Honestly, honestly, honestly, God, the last week, there was a lot of noise about that, because we said to the, listen, Joe's my guy. Can Joe be a dick, and do I sometimes occasionally
Starting point is 00:30:35 talk shit about him, or feel- I've never seen Cypher Sound mad. Cypher Sound's whipped back. He's a butler. You're mad at me. Cypher's mad at me for dragging into shit again. I'm mad at this shit. Love it.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Love. I can't get fucked up yet. I gotta go on stage. We gonna take a shot or no? Take that bottle, give it to him. No shots, man. No bottle. Ice juice. Yeah, yeah. Once again, if y'all don't know, we got Ice Cube in the building. Make some noise.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I could be the intern on Friday. Man, if I could get it off. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to get it out of Warner Brothers. They don't believe in the culture, man. You know what I'm saying? They don't believe in it. So they own the rights to Friday, you said? Well, they have the right to distribute the movie. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:37 So when we did the first one, they wrote in if we do this first one. We got the right to put out the sequels. All of them? All of them, yeah. Damn, man. Everybody telling me, man, call it Thursday, call it Saturday. But once I take the characters' names, it becomes a property in front. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:31:59 So you can't use Smokey? I can't be dating Craig. So it's useless. Damn, man. U's useless. Wow. So they just need to come off that shit, man. I'm walking up, holy shit. I think the new generation needs to get some of this new Friday, you know what I'm saying? I agree. I was ready to give it to him. I had two scripts. I wrote one.
Starting point is 00:32:25 It was the shit. It was like, yo, we don't want Craig and Daddy in jail. Because Craig and Daddy went to jail for selling weed. You know what I'm saying? Before it was legal. And, uh. Yeah. Drop the bell.
Starting point is 00:32:42 What's up? What's up? Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. So, I was like, yo yo man, what's your name? It's like shit is funny And it was like nah, nah Then after they rejected it they you know, they they had all these fucking movies about going to jail, you know Orange is the new black. Yeah go to jail get hard. I was like Nancy y'all fucking me up So now I wrote another script
Starting point is 00:33:06 and the other script was really about you know, I'm talking about the Friday scripts. My other script was about the youngsters in the hood having beef with the OGs in the hood and Craig has to come back and squash that because Smokey
Starting point is 00:33:22 Son is the new Deebo and he's wildin'. But he's a little skinny motherfucker that'll shoot you. You know what I'm saying? I love this script. Where this script at? They tripped on it, man. They fucked around and then John Witherspoon passed. Then Deebo passed. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:33:42 Just like a lot of the characters. And then Ezell passed. so a lot of characters we're gonna go back to the hood they just fucked it up one thing about it is it's an unbelievable unbelievable franchise unbelievable definitely needs to continue before we move on is it gonna be called last Friday the last one I Is it going to be called Last Friday? The Last Friday? I mean, it was going to be called Last Friday.
Starting point is 00:34:10 And Chris Tucker, did he commit? Not to me. Not to you? He told DC Youngfly something, but Chris is slippery. He's slippery, you know what I mean? I've seen Chris and Justin's, and I don't know if anybody knows what New York restaurant is. Justin's is an old school restaurant. So I seen them and that was one of the things that I asked him.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I said, are you going to do the last Friday? And he said to me, yes. That's what he said to everybody. Except you. Except me. He didn't want to catch anymore. That was a long time ago. I don't know. I'm like, I'm like. He didn't want to curse anymore, yeah. That was a long time ago, you know. I don't know what's the reason now. But, you know, me and Chris is cool.
Starting point is 00:34:50 You know, you hit me up all the time. Q, what you doing? What's up? What's up? You know, but, you know, doing that movie, I don't know what the deal is. Right. Well, that's crazy. Classic.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Classic. Let me just tell you something. This was a classic concert. Thank you, man. What's going on? Oh, oh, Arnie's in the building. Arnie, Arnie, relax, I got you. I'm on you, Arnie. Listen, El, I can't believe how professional, put together this is.
Starting point is 00:35:21 What made you, because we had Arnie on earlier. Arnie said something that was very important they said that the rock the bells concert was an initially started without you and you went in and said nah this is my shit I made the way rock can you explain that well that part of it is I actually had to go and go to court take the IP back and um you know I took the IP back and for people that don't know what IP is intellectual property yeah yeah so shit you do you own it until you sell it or somebody steal it yeah so I went got it back and then it was like I feel like hip-hop is not disposable
Starting point is 00:35:58 you know I'm saying in hip-hop um it these the same way that Bob Dylan and Paul McCartney and Mick Jagger get celebrated, I feel like Ice Cube and Nori and all these acts out here, Busta Rhymes and Fat Joe and Remy Ma and Lil' Kim deserve to be celebrated. And like Cube said earlier, we got to own something. And I believe, like, I also wanted to make sure that certain artists that made a huge contribution to the culture So that's why Grandmaster Kaz has a piece DJ Herc has a piece of the company running
Starting point is 00:36:44 Saying all of these artists have a piece of the company Roxy and Chante Big Daddy King have a piece of the company. Running DMC has a piece. I seen Chuck Schiller. You know what I'm saying? All of these artists have a piece of the company. Roxanne, Shante, Big Daddy King have a piece of the company because I want us to have something. So one day when I sell a piece, I'll be able to write them a check and they'll be able to have some fruits from all the labor that they put into this culture. And that's what I believe, man. Look, we understand greasy brown paper bags. We all understand that. But I feel like hip-hop needs to be served on a silver platter. We need that too.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Definitely. So that was the thought. That's the thought process. Let's make some noise for that. I've been listening to all your interviews. You've been promoting and you've been doing the right thing. You know what I'm saying? And we do need
Starting point is 00:37:26 to be on a hip-hop does need to be on another level because like these old school you know country artists and all that we come out and sell out the state why we can't do that with hip-hop right I gotta stop y'all for one minute this old lady from the hood just now before I left to come over here she said if you don't give me a picture with ll don't come back around we're gonna get you a picture so you can come back around let me ask you something one of the most underrated movies of all times which is one of my most favorite movies was filmed here excuse me filmed in Miami. All about the Benjamins. Are we doing the All About the Benjamins 2?
Starting point is 00:38:07 See? Because I could be Day Day. I could be Mike Epps. Because he charge too much. I know, man. Mike might have to fight you for that part. You know what I'm saying? I think I might just get...
Starting point is 00:38:15 Arm wrestle or something. Yeah, yeah. Just put me in there somewhere. Because I could do it. I do it for free. I don't get pumped. Once again, another Warner Brothers fuck up. Always the same people.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Yeah, same people. You know, New Line put out... You know, it's New Line Cinema. Right Once again, another Warner Brothers fuck up. Always the same people. Yeah, same people. You know, New Line put out, you know, it's New Line Cinema, which is now Warner Brothers. Wow. And so, you know, that one's tied up too. Players Club is tied up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Players Club. Players Club. You got a new Players Club bar too. You got a new thing coming out? Yeah, we got a new line. You made Atlanta hot by doing Players Club. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Players Club was shit.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Because remember, in New York, in New York, we didn't go to strip clubs. We thought that was corny going to strip clubs, throwing the move. And then we seen Players Club. We thought it was corny, brother. At that time. At that time. And for the other niggas we found.
Starting point is 00:38:57 We thought it was corny. But then you went to Atlanta and you discovered that. Yeah, you know, I went to Atlanta on a trip one time, and I was like, yo, this shit is movie worthy. You know, I'm looking around, I'm like, yo. But I actually shot it in L.A. I shot the movie in L.A. Oh, wow. Yeah, I shot it in L.A.
Starting point is 00:39:15 So, L.A. for Atlanta. I was today years old when I found that out. So, they have a few coming out? Yeah, yeah, I've got a few coming out. Let's talk about it. But they, you know, they shut me down because I didn't take the jab, and I wouldn't, you know. Oh, you ain't take the vaccine? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, they coming out? Yeah, yeah, I got a few coming out. Let's talk about it. But they, you know, they shut me down because I didn't take the jab and I wouldn't, you know. Oh, you ain't take the vaccine? Yeah, yeah, so, you know, I lost a little scratch because of that, but you know.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Yo, LL, so what are we doing with this concert? Are we taking this on tour? It's a festival. It's an all-day festival. Are we taking it on tour? I don't know. I mean, we need to take it around the world, I think. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Facts. I think we need to take it around the world and around the nation and around the world. So what is the plan? Because this is a successful day. Me looking from the outside in, but being the inside looking out. Very successful. I've seen so many people. Everyone's happy.
Starting point is 00:39:56 I haven't seen no one complain. So are we saying this is Queens, we're starting it, and then next festival, Philadelphia? Well, I don't see any reason to leave Queens out of the mix What but moving forward we'll see where else we may do it. Well, there's no reason to leave it I don't see any reason to leave Queens out of the mix I mean, it's great for us We can all do our things if you have you have your show we can do that if you have somebody has food they can Do that if you have your other businesses will include them like I want to I want to love the people
Starting point is 00:40:27 we say we can be sweet like nasa sweet chick from these true burgers yes you know ghost facing them the killer coffee like I want this to be for us the goal is for all of us to be successful you know I want to just salute LL for being the story to rock the bells, for making sure that he jumped in to do it himself, hands on. You know what I'm saying? Like, we have to do that. When we came in the game, it was the, you know, the Chuck Chillouts. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Chuck Chillouts.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Red Alert. Yeah, it was Red Alert. It was Marley mall it was it was people who took the took the music on took the music on and ran with it right and so when you got somebody as big as LL who do the same thing to make sure that it's treated the right way. You know what I mean? We should all salute LL. I love that.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Because he didn't have to. You know, and it take a lot of work. Work you don't see behind the scenes. You know what I'm saying? It's a battle to fight for something this big and make sure it's done right. You know, he look cool, calm, and collected. He don't look like there's no sweat. But I know he done worked hard behind the scenes. It's real. It's real. You know, he look cool, calm and collected. He don't look like there's no sweat, but I know he worked hard behind the scenes. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:41:50 Blood, sweat and tears to make sure this was done with class. So salute. Thank you. Let me ask you something Q because I recently, about four years ago, I did like a show for Big Boy, I believe it was on Power 106 in London. And I was the only East Coast guy on there. And I was so nervous. But then I realized I was Latino.
Starting point is 00:42:09 And I have actually a little bit of advantage. So I came out and I did my Latino records. Yeah, I did my Latino records. But right now, today, I'm looking at the lineup. And you are the only West Coast artist here. Is that uncomfortable? Or is that something like... like cuba's both coasts let me jump in on that first of all look i got brothers all over the world right cube they've
Starting point is 00:42:38 been tearing that up forever right we was rocking straight out of compton and queens hauling like a yes we were we all know that. Yes, we were. So he about to tear that shit up. Yes. And, you know, his house, my house, we in this together. Because you know what? This is a brotherhood, sisterhood. This is culture.
Starting point is 00:42:53 This is our culture. L.L. is the first one that took N.W.A. on tour and let us open up. Stop, Q. Stop, Q. L.L. Cool J. Stop, Q. You're giving us too much. No, no, man.
Starting point is 00:43:04 We're going to put a baby. Really? Baby. Really? You got N.W. what I'm saying? I'll kill him. You're giving us too much. No, no, man. We're going to put a baby. Really? You got NWA on talk? Yes. Yeah, I loved him forever. I loved him forever.
Starting point is 00:43:13 I loved him forever. And, you know, my second album was produced by the LA Posse. You know what I'm saying? Wow. DJ Pool, shout out. DJ Pool. You know what I mean? Barcat. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:43:22 All of them. Dwayne Simon, Muffler. So, like, I love the West Coast. I remember, you know, Roger. You know what I mean Bobcat you know I mean all of them Dwayne Simon muffler So like I love the West Coast I remember you know Roger you know maybe Roger Clayton may he rest in peace Uncle James army you know saying KD I was out there then you know me so it's real shit we do because you did make the original you're going back to Cal but this This was before that. This was before that. I was out there in 84. You was in Cali before going back to Cali? 84. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:47 84. We got to go. Q got to go. I got to go. No, you're lucky. Yo, Q got to go. Thank you. My job is done.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Yo, I need my T-shirt. Claudine, I need my t-shirt. Come on, eat. I need my t-shirt. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser-known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best-selling author and meat-eater founder Stephen Rinella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here.
Starting point is 00:44:41 And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And it's going to take us to heal us. It's Mental Health Awareness Month. And on a recent episode of Just Heal with Dr. J, the incomparable Taraji P. Henson stopped by to discuss how she's discovered peace on her journey. So what I'm hearing you saying is healing is a part of us also reconnecting to our childhood in some sort. You said I look how youthful I look because I never let that little girl inside of me die.
Starting point is 00:45:32 I go outside and run outside with the dogs. I still play like a kid. I laugh. You know, I love jokes. I love funny. I love laughing. I laugh at myself. I don't take myself too seriously.
Starting point is 00:45:45 That's the stuff that keeps you young and stops you from being so hard. To hear this and more things on the journey of healing, you can listen to Just Heal with Dr. J from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. AT&T, connecting changes everything. Hello, hello, Malcolm Gladwell here. On this season of Revisionist History, we're going where no podcast has ever gone before.
Starting point is 00:46:15 In combination with my three-year-old, we defend the show that everyone else hates. I'm talking, of course, about Paw Patrol. There's some things that really piss me off when it comes to Paw Patrol. It's pretty simple. It sucks. My son watches Paw Patrol. I hate it. Everyone hates it, except for me.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Plus, we investigate everything from why American sirens are so unbearably loud, to the impact of face blindness on social connection, to the secret behind Thomas' on social connection, to the secret behind Thomas's English muffins, perfect nooks and crannies. And also, we go after Joe Rogan. Are you ready, Joe? I'm coming for you. You won't want to miss it. Listen to Revisionist History on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild-haired priests
Starting point is 00:47:13 trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell-bent effort to sabotage a war. J. Edgar Hoover was furious. Somebody violated the FBI, and he wanted to bring the Catholic left to its knees. The FBI went around to all their neighbors and said to them, do you think these people are good Americans? It's got heists, tragedy, a trial of the century,
Starting point is 00:47:37 and the goddamnedest love story you've ever heard. I picked up the phone and my thought was, this is the most important phone call I'll ever make in my life. I couldn't believe it. I mean, Brendan, it was divine intervention. You can now binge all 10 episodes of Divine Intervention on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?
Starting point is 00:48:14 Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated.
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Starting point is 00:49:17 Wait, y'all got beef with Joe Bud. Right, your favorite. Not y'all, not y'all, not y'all. Only you? No beef with Joe Bud. Joe is my guy. You know me for a long time. I'm a sensitive guy. Not y'all, not y'all, not y'all. Only you? No beef with Joe, bud. Joe is my guy. And you know me for a long time.
Starting point is 00:49:28 I'm a sensitive guy. I have my moments, I get my feelings. Yes. So y'all a group. Yeah, we are a group, we are a group. And we're not, we'll be on the same side. If I beef, we all beef. No, we're not riding with you.
Starting point is 00:49:41 So every once in a while, I'll say something. I'm really honest to God, though, in this particular case, I know you may not believe me, I was actually not trying. I was saying, damn,
Starting point is 00:49:51 we shouldn't be 50 spots behind Joe Budden because we should, I feel with what we've done, we fucked up. We shouldn't be that far back. That goes for you, too. I think we're up there
Starting point is 00:50:01 with the real best podcast. I don't want to be in fucking 50th place. So that was really just a thing about us and wanted to motivate us. I understood why it came off as hate. I fully accept that. Joe's my brother. We talked this week.
Starting point is 00:50:13 You was hating a little bit. I was hating. No, no, there was hate sprinkled in. There was some salt and vinegar. There was a little bit. But, no, Joe and I talked. Bro, Joe and I, I've known Joe before any rapper I ever met in the game ever. I've known Joe Budden.
Starting point is 00:50:26 You tried to play him on, right? I did. I did. I mean, listen, he would have made it and been great anyway. You didn't have to be that smart to know that Joe was going to pop off. Right. But, yeah, the podcast started in a meeting at my apartment, me, him, and Marissa Mendez, and we decided to do the podcast.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Was your dog there? Bear was there. Okay. So Bear should get a piece, too. You know, Joe's rich now. Yo, I just had dinner with Joe. I got to go to the bar with somebody to sit. Yo, Buck, you're going to relax.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Buck, you're going to relax. But you know what? Let's let Un get in. Get Un. Get Un a seat, my nigga. Get Un a seat. You want to get in? Come on, Un. Let's make some noise for Unn! For entertainment, goddammit! You over! Move over, move over, move over!
Starting point is 00:51:09 What's up, Unn? Sit over here! Did you see Lil' Kim? Are y'all good? Yes. Okay, thank you. I want my checklist! For the blue!
Starting point is 00:51:16 Unn, you still owe me the DM from 1996. He still owe me the DM from 1996. Wait up. Yo, Unn. You owe me the DJ from the blue. Let's just be clear Biggie got the Hold on Biggie got one of the Most foulest lines
Starting point is 00:51:31 In history He said Me and my nigga Lance Took Took him and C's advance You need to explain this Cause Biggie didn't want to What did he say after that I What did he say after that?
Starting point is 00:51:46 I don't know. It was something foul. You and I are going to stay the whole time. What did he say? What did he say? He and I are going to stay the whole time. They came in vans, bought two bricks, ten bricks, ten choppers. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:01 What the fuck he bought? He bought some shit. What is it? Who are the hip hop y'all? Hip hop and y'all don't know. It wasn't boy Who the hip hop y'all Fucking people throwing them off a bridge What did he say come on me and my nigga Lance took Kim and C's events what two bricks what did he say? Me and my What did he say? I'm looking. That's the only part I remember. He bought two brick grids. You're asking the high people. Me and my landlord Lance took Kim and C's advance, bought ten bricks, four pounds of weed plants from Branson.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Now we lampin' 12 room mansion. He took that man's. I'ma be honest, you my nigga, to that lyric, it describes a foul day. Did y'all take it? You my nigga, but to that lyric describes a foul day The job takes season Kim advance I bought me plans, okay Okay Maybe was really clever. Okay. So when he said the line, me and my nigga Lance. Lance. To Tennessee's advance.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Advance. He was talking about me and his portion of the advance. Oh. Oh, they're gorgeous. Wow. That's a good one. That's a good one. Cream is the production company, right?
Starting point is 00:53:19 Yup. You know how you and Cam say y'all got school back there when we were schoolin' y'all? Oh, you goin' there? Okay, I'm in. No, no, no, we're not goin' there. We're gonna get you to have this conversation. We're gonna have this conversation. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:53:38 But the line is, when my class took Tennessee's advance and did all of this crazy shit, we did do all of that. We put 10 pounds and coke and all kinds of ramping and all of that. But it was our portion of the advance. Kim got her portion of the advance. C's got his portion of the advance. And ask him about my per diem. You also took his portion of the advance.
Starting point is 00:54:04 No, why are you looking like you don't believe him? That makes sense. No, I love it. That makes sense. I need to hear this. I never asked him off a camera. I'm doing a television series called Fulton Street. Fulton Street.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Fulton Street. Right. It's going to tell the whole entire story from beginning to end. Right. Right? And you're going to find out all of these subliminal bars. Right. I'm going to answer them in a television series.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Because a lot of people don't know, you were like Biggie's accountant at one point. I was absolutely in charge of the money. In charge of the money. Yes. How did you and Biggie meet? How we going to say that? So, was you older or? I a boy is over the favorite moment with me One of them what about to me what is what are your favorite my favorite
Starting point is 00:54:59 Okay One day see the story is that I thought Daddio was better than Biggie. Explain who Daddio was. That's a silence. Was he out of Brooklyn? Yeah, he had the gumbo. He's nice. He is nice. So how could you compare him to Biggie? At that time?
Starting point is 00:55:25 At that time? At that time? Biggie was a kid on Full Street hustling, beating on the ball, Hennessy's and Nino. It was block rapping, balls battling. Right. It was, Daddy-O was seasoned. He was a musician by that time. Making songs. He was making songs
Starting point is 00:55:46 He was the generation before Big Hit So to compare You know he asked me a question You think Dario is better than me Yes I do So I saw a point of me telling him Challenging him
Starting point is 00:56:02 What the fuck is this I don't understand this crap you know like i said i don't i'm looking at is it profitable right right and so at some point in his career um we did all of the records we got successful and i said you ain't really that nice. And he said, I said, if you're that nice, rap the alphabet to me. And he said, all bitches can die even fucking. He said, I'm already up to F. What came to your mind?
Starting point is 00:56:41 Even fucking. Even fucking. What came to your mind when he said that? That you're the nicest nigga on the planet. Oh That's crazy. That's hard. He was a special guy. Very, very special. He was nice. He got my favorite album of all time. Now, I'm going to ask you something that's going to be a little tricky right now. Okay. Because, famous story.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Irv Gotti, we just had Irv Gotti on. That's my guy. Talking about his relationship with his artist. Famous story. Irv Gotti, we just had Irv Gotti on. Irv Gotti's talking about his relationship with his artist. Famous story. You. Your artist. Bop, move the fuck back, Bop. What the fuck is this?
Starting point is 00:57:44 Bop was the only nigga? You gotta sit down. To be continued. What was the only nigga? On the full version of Drake's show. I'm not scared of any of you on the top. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:52 To be continued. Listen. To be continued. On the full version of Drake's show. I ain't even asked yet. I know. You have an eye for this? You know?
Starting point is 00:58:02 You know where I'm going. No. I... Listen. I'm telling you that I know every last one of you. I know... I know all of you from the box. From the beginning.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Since they started. Since they started. They was... This guy is the Bronx dude. When they was mad. When they made this huge thing. This guy here, he was... A DJ for Lil' Kim. They begged us.
Starting point is 00:58:36 They said, it's a little kid named Cypher Sounds. Come on, give him a break. Who? Cypher Sounds? Is it 5%? And this guy, he got bad, he got
Starting point is 00:58:49 his mentors is poor. That's his poor. Mentors? Yes, your mentors. We'll talk about it when I come to y'all's show. Yeah, because you are a special kind of guy. Right? You deserve to be here. I didn't know where you were going. Yeah, because you are a special kind of guy, right?
Starting point is 00:59:05 You deserve to be here. Oh, thank you. I didn't know where you were going. You absolutely deserve to be here. Thank you. This guy... Wait, wait, wait. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:59:13 One second. I just want my flowers. He skips over you? You said they begged for me to be a DJ, but then you didn't tell them how great of a job I did. I said I'm going to cry about it. What the fuck? I said I'm going to talk about it. Oh, fuck? I said I'm going to talk about it. Okay, thank you.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Sorry. I don't want that on you. It's time to spread it out. Don't give it all to Norm. Okay, Norm. Don't give it all to Norm. It's like, I'm not worried.
Starting point is 00:59:34 I'm not worried. Let me just tell you. Let me ask you something because, all right, the rumor is that you messed with Charlie Baltimore
Starting point is 00:59:44 and then that's how you and Jay-Z had had problems. The rumor is that you messed with Charlie Baltimore, and then that's how you and Jay-Z had had problems. Would you like to elaborate on that? Murray, we're going to get to that on the full show of Drink Champs. I got you, I got you. This is a two-week interview. This is a two-week interview. You're right, you're right. This is a two-week interview.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Let's just see what he's going to say. Let's just see what Big Art is going to say. You're going to take the high road. We're going to play the fifth. Okay, going back, let me talk high road. We gonna play the fifth. Okay, go on back. Let me talk to your audience. Talk to the audience. I've been dying to come to this show because
Starting point is 01:00:12 That's my brother. Of the way they smoke, the way they drink. I haven't been offered none of it. I'm not smoking, I drink. Oh shit, let's do something. There we are. We're not doing that. We don't drink that. Oh, shit. Let's do something. We're not doing that. What you drink? Ace of spades?
Starting point is 01:00:29 I'm going to tell y'all something. Listen, I'm getting ready to tell y'all a story about this alcohol. The only thing that you don't have here is Casamigos. Right? No, we don't know the owner. We don't have Casamigos, right? We don't know the owner. And Casamigos mixed with champagne. Casamigos
Starting point is 01:00:53 and Ace of Spades mixed. Guys, girls, you're gonna make babies. I love how he's not answering this question. And I'm calling now Drake, the queen of space. There you go. Space is yours today. Got some cold ace over here. We don't have no cold ace, but we want to talk some hot ace. We want to talk a cold ace, but we're talking about a hot ace. You want to talk about a hot ace? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:26 It's already open. So the question is... We answered the question. To be continued. Got you, Mark. Nori, you're going on. Nori became a real journalist. You stay on it.
Starting point is 01:01:40 You want to go on the gossip column, this is it. He's paid six. He's paid six. We're to go for gossip columnist? He's dead. He's page six. He's page six. Yeah, page six. We're going to ask that in Miami. Page six. Okay. Because you know what, Un?
Starting point is 01:01:52 We miss you in this game. We need more Black is X. We need more Un's Dame Dash's, the Urban Goddy's, the Darren's. We need more of this. You know what I mean? And especially you going into the movie world, we even needed that. We even needed to, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:02:10 So how's that been, transitioning to the movie world? I mean, it's been special. You know what I mean? We were allowed to tell stories that we love to tell, right? And I kind of say that, you know, I hope to bridge the gap between music video directors in the film world. And you did the cookout, right?
Starting point is 01:02:32 Yeah, I directed the cookout. I like the cookout. I directed the perfect holiday. Nice. So, you know, I mean, the transition has been that. So now I took a real good look at the landscape, see what everybody's doing in terms of content. I? And he's fighting for us.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Right? And if he says cancel your subscription until his shows come back up, do that. Right? Because the content is for us. They come in like hip-hop and they say, hey, this is mainstream
Starting point is 01:03:24 and you don't know what you're talking about, 50. So a lot of things, when they start to get rid of the old guard, young guys, you got to fight because you're next. You're next. Yeah. Right? There's no, you don't have no security. Like if they fire Flex, Peter Rosenberg, you're next.
Starting point is 01:03:46 You're next. Right? It's a history. Right? And we've all seen it. We've all, you know, hot and cold, re-invention. Right? You know, you've done a wonderful job.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I remember when you were a child. And Cypher Sounds is now a comedian. And I'm proud of him. You know what I'm saying? I'm proud of him. I'm going to tell you something about T.I. He doesn't answer the phone. I'm going to tell you about T.I. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:17 T.I. being a comedian. Right. He got booed in New York. I believe so. But one thing that he did was he held his composure. He did not run. He did not
Starting point is 01:04:31 put his head down. And every comedian knows that is the challenge. If he can stand up to that. And he redeemed himself. Because I waited. I said, how is he going to recover and he did it he played his record the crowd went crazy and he said i wish i would you selfish mother
Starting point is 01:04:56 because they thought they was going to get a rap concert fast right and and he's redeemed himself. They laughed, that was his ending. So it's tough. How about you? Transitional. Yeah, I love it. You love it? Yeah, I love it, dude. You know, because I was funny on the radio, so I just found, people kept saying funny, funny, funny,
Starting point is 01:05:17 so I found a way to make it the main thing. You know what I'm saying? There's a hard transition, though. It's not the same as hip hop. Cypher, Cypher, that show on A&E coming out too. Am I allowed to say that? Sure. Hip hop treasures coming this winter,
Starting point is 01:05:29 hosted by Cypher Sounds. Hip hop treasures? What that mean? That means that he's going to take a diamond test to all those diamonds. Oh, I'm in. I'm outside. No, let's go.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Someone's trash or someone's treasure. Yeah. Nice. Hello, Cool J's company, Rock the Bells. Someone's trash. We ain't making out here. That's someone's treasure. Yeah. Nice. Hello, Cool J's company, Rock the Bells. Rock the Bells. Yeah. And I go searching for hip hop artifacts.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Like, we looking for Biggie's clown. Oh, like the wrestler? Like the wrestler? And I can say, look. We had an annual treasure, bro. Oh, that's fucking genius. Yeah, fire. You didn't call me.
Starting point is 01:05:58 I'm just gonna give you one every week. I'm waiting to get the first season out the way so we figure out all the bugs. I'm gonna be a second producer. What is it that you want from Nori as his artifact? I wanna be a second producer. Nori artifact would be, oh. You don't understand. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. season out the way so we figure out all the bugs. What is it that you want from Nori as an artifact? I want to be a second Medusa. Nori artifact would be... You don't understand. My first summer jam I ever did,
Starting point is 01:06:13 Cameron Entertainment asked me to come out. We rehearsed this for weeks. It's a boom that comes out. Boom. And then I walk out. The boom never came out. No boom. No boom. You're the boss.
Starting point is 01:06:34 You're the boss. I was about to do that. Where's the boom? Where's the boom? They're like, Normie, go out. I'm like, the boom never came out.
Starting point is 01:06:41 I was like, Normie, go out. Look what we just happened to do. A little dirt. A little dirt. The boom. If I went like, you want me to come in? I was like, you want me to come in? Because I was like, yo, did you look at what was happening in the little dirt? Little dirt? The boom. So if I went out, the boom. You would have blew up. Yeah, you see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:06:51 I would have blew the fuck up. Absolutely. So I'm looking, I'm like, yo, we rehearsed this for six fucking weeks. Absolutely. Where's the boom? Fucking, I'm just going like this, go out! I'm like, there's no boom! Where's the boom?
Starting point is 01:07:00 Now let me tell you something to add on to that story. At the time, I was like, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, I'm going to go out, You're so bold, man! Where's the boldness? Let me tell you something to add on to that story. At the time, Cam'ron, Dutch & Spade, Charlie Baltimore, and Noriega didn't even have an album. Right. And they had a Summer Jam set.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Oh. Make some noise for that. Real talk. Real talk. I'll be honest. I'll be honest. I was sorry the penalty but I'm going to be honest
Starting point is 01:07:31 and I probably never said this publicly but entertainment was running my shit. Absolutely. Yo, entertainment because me and Cam
Starting point is 01:07:39 was so tight that I was like yo, I got you bro. I know these niggas don't really know what they're doing. I got you. So yeah, yeah. Real talk. things, I know who they're doing. I got you. So yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Real talk. Everything, Cam did, Normie was there, MTV. Unjie, you do the whole, I'm guessing you put together a whole bunch of characters. Yeah, Norm, what was I doing first? I'm giving y'all both the props. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:07:57 I'm sorry. I'm giving y'all both the props. Both was definitely good. Yeah, definitely. I'm saying outside. Definitely. I'm going to tell you, it's an interesting story about that record and Mase and Cam, but I'm going to save that for you later.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Should we continue? Can you say that again? Cam, Mase and the Horson Cabbers. Oh, I was at that video too. I know. Oh, you know your Artifact should be? You know your Artifact should be? What are you wearing in the You Came Up video?
Starting point is 01:08:18 Oh, no. I don't have none of that. By the way, I'm going to tell you. That would be the thing. You don't have Artifact. I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to tell you this. you what are you wearing the you came up video oh no I don't have nothing by the way we need I'm gonna tell you the jewel of you came up video with a big point was the guy that's
Starting point is 01:08:37 not the director but the guy that's like the DP or whatever yeah he comes up to me and says pun said he could jump off of the roof and he said you you said you cosign I said that's like the DP or whatever, he comes up to me and says, Pun said he could jump off of the roof. And he said, you said, you, Cosign. I said, that's a lie. So Pun, I don't know if you remember in the video, there's a guy that jumps off the roof. Yeah. Pun wanted to be that guy. And Pun said, ask Nori.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Nori said he'd do it. He goes, ask Nori. Nori said he'd do it before. I said, yo, Pun, I don't know why you're lying to me on this one. I am not cosigning him. I said, hell no. He's a liar. I've never seen him do that. So, then I swear to God, I swear to God, Parma's like 400 pounds this time.
Starting point is 01:09:18 He jumped over the gate. He said, y'all don't think I can jump in? And he went and jumped over the gate. I don't think I can jump over the gate right now. He jumped over. And I was like, oh, shit. And I was like, maybe he could do it. But I just went with my gut.
Starting point is 01:09:32 And he was like, so, Nori, you going to post sign? Why you jumping over the roof? I said, no. I'm good. I'm good. Pun was the best, man. Pun was my man. Pun was the best.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Pun used to have to back the truck up on the sidewalk to the door of the studio. The studio, full of trucks on the sidewalk. Walk out the studio just like this. So he'd get in the truck. And Pete, you had him on the record too. Let's just talk about 1998. The world.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Let's just talk about 1998 for a second. That whole year was What's 1998? Yeah. 1998 was magical. I got a story about that cover we did. Go ahead, let's talk about it. On that cover, we did the cover of Source magazine in 1998. It was me, you, DMX.
Starting point is 01:10:20 DMX, Cam'ron, Karab, Sotishaka, DMX, Cam'ron, K.R.U.P, Sotishaka, DMX, Cannabis, Camadonna, Favu Chang. I think I know everyone. So in the article of the cover, they asked us about other artists. So they would say, Peter, we want to ask you and Tariq what y'all think about DMX. And they would ask you who you thought about Punn or whatever. I said, let's do Punn. They said, nah, we want to mix it up.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Y'all from the Bronx, do DMX. So I said, yeah, nah, DMX is dope. It's changing the game. We going back to the streets. You know, that's where we coming in. And when they asked X about me and Tariq, he said, ask the niggas how I ate them at Crunchy College. Ah!
Starting point is 01:11:04 Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo? So we doing all of this. Yo, we doing all this big hip-hop. Big hip-hop, yeah. And then he got on this, ask them niggas at Hunter College how I ate them. Him and that whole team, the Gun Runners. Ask that nigga Peter Guns, right? So Carlito from Sauce called me and said, hey, you might want to recant your interview because X kind of went in on you.
Starting point is 01:11:24 I said, what he say? Carlito from the Sauce, what we because X kind of went in on you. I said, what'd he say? All he did was put him in a sauce aisle. What are we going to do with the writer? The writer. He just came home from jail. The rest of the piece, X was my brother. So I said, what'd he say? He said, he said, ask your HR at the fucking Hunter College.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Now, here's the true story. It was like five of us out in the Bronx, and it was just him and some dudes from Yonkers. So all of us wanted a piece of it. So he go, then Tariq like, let me get something. It was a true story. dudes from Yonkers. So all of us wanted a piece of it. So when he goes and Tariq like, nigga, something. It was a true story. We all went one by one. And I can see how the nigga like, I ate all of that. So I'm tired.
Starting point is 01:11:53 I'm so mad at X because I had to go and do this thing. Khalid thought I ain't going to print it like that. I tried to reach X. They said, X is in Boone's in the Bronx. He got a show tonight. In Wossey Boone's? In Wossey Boone's. In Wossey Boone's? Yeah. Oh, that's right. Wos in Boone's in the Bronx. You got to show them. In YC Boone's? In YC Boone's. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 01:12:07 That's right. So me and Tariq is in Detroit on the show. You know, I called, made a phone call. Yo, go ask X what the fuck is wrong. So they called me from the Boone's. Shout out to X, Wendy, X and them. X got on the phone. I was like, nigga, I would never do that.
Starting point is 01:12:23 You're y'all family to me. When I catch that, Carlito was on. I said, I bet because this nigga saw. I said, Carlito, you can't be doing shit like that. Carlito said, come to the office and play the tape. No.
Starting point is 01:12:34 No. It was all changed. It was worse. It was worse than he said. No. He said it was the worst. All I could do was die laughing
Starting point is 01:12:43 because as mad as I was, X was like, I got gotta get him out of here He was in the backyard It was the funniest shit That shit is amazing I got some gas left in my pocket Yo Buck, yo crazy Yo Buck, I ain't gonna lie
Starting point is 01:12:58 Listen, listen Buck, you my nigga On tour, when we was on tour You was the only nigga who would come out with me Every single night. I would do the dumbest shit. I would go to the Waffle Houses everywhere. Let me ask you a question. You got a license now.
Starting point is 01:13:13 Yes. Did you put the name Yalla on it? No, I'm putting the Yalla back though. You know when I open up my Maybach and they got the sign? No, no, no. I want you to put on your license. Yalla back? Yalla on the license. Yalla on, no. I want you to put on your license. Yalla back? Yalla got the license.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Yalla on my license? I want you to put the Yalla on your license. I get pulled over by white people, bub. That's all we do. They got to respect you. Yalla came from the dirt. And the Yalla's still rising. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Wait, you got a license? You got a license, bub? I got two licenses. Two licenses. Yeah. Let me tell you something. Noreen, you know this is a lie, right? This guy, he tried to get me arrested.
Starting point is 01:13:49 The first time I ever went on tour with a little kid, we drove to Virginia in a van. Remember the 15 passenger vans? Fantastic. Fantastic. Fantastic. Fantastic. Fantastic. I moved to the crew.
Starting point is 01:14:02 This is the first show I ever did. I'm in the way back. We're driving on the Bronx. This is the first show I ever did. I'm in the way back. We're driving on the Bronx, Major Deegan driving down south. The cops come behind us. He goes, Syph, get up here. So he tried to make me climb across the whole van and get in the driver's seat. I said, what? Get up here.
Starting point is 01:14:23 So I'm trying to climb over the front. The cop just passed us. He goes, I'll not forget it. It's not us. Yo, my first, I never even met them. This is the first day I've met them. They're trying to get me in jail. Hey, welcome to hip hop.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Yalla. Welcome to hip hop. I'm a buck. I was on the road with Buck, with C's, Junior Mafia, on Always Take Care of Me. Buck Always Take Care of Me. And we got on our podcast, you Buck, with C's, Junior Mafia, Arn always took care of me, Buck always took care of me, and we got on our podcast, we always joke, like, yo, I used to DJ for Lil' Kim. That was my first job, I always say that was my first job,
Starting point is 01:14:53 Nori was my first rap friend, and that was my first family. So I'm telling y'all right now, thank y'all. I dropped out of college for a while. Shout out to Circus. Shout out to C-Lot. Let me ask you something, because Cam'ron says, I dropped out of college for Salvin' the Circus. Salvin' the Circus. That's all. Salvin' the Circus. Let me ask you something. Because Cameron says that his first album was mainly your album. How do you feel like that when you hear him say that?
Starting point is 01:15:18 I mean... It was a great album. Listen, this is my perspective of it, right? Every artist has a collaborator. Whether it was Biggie and Puff, right? Whether it was Jermaine and all of the collabs he did with his artists. Chris Cross, yeah. Right? Michael Jackson and Quincy Jones.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Right. You know, I know Cam tells a story about, you know, I was hard on him in the beginning, right? You know, and he was like, you know, maybe they was big and just passed. But by no means did I think Big Cam was big, right? Cam was, I didn't see... That's how you kind of describe him.
Starting point is 01:16:03 No, I didn't see what Big saw in Cam. Wow. Right? Wow. Because, okay, like I told you the story. So why did you keep that going? Because the word is that Big was signing Cam, Big passed away, and you honored Big's wishes. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:16:19 So why did you do that if you didn't see what Big saw? Because it was his legacy, right? This was his plan with me. His plan with me was more Kim, more Mafia, Kim, the Commission album. J and M-A. No, J and- Charlie. J and I? Uncle Paulie.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Uncle Paulie. Uncle Paulie in the Commission. He's Uncle Pauly. Uncle Pauly. He's Uncle Pauly. For God's sake. Right, and Diddy, and you'll see through the history of the music, when I tell the series, right, you'll see that Big was really strategic
Starting point is 01:17:04 in how he marketed his artists right right before the world when you even seen what the junior mafia was big tag on records to the point he had everybody tagging on junior mafia of tagging junior mafia so. So at the time of his passing, the records that were coming leading up to his passing was the commission, right? And the commission, you asked for the commission name, right? And then the commission of the quality. And it was really strategic.
Starting point is 01:17:45 Mafia touch. So that was his moving forward. And Cam was a part of that legacy. Of what his plan was moving forward. Which is a beautiful legacy.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Right. You know what I'm saying? You'll see Jim Jones and Jewels and all of these guys as a part of his tree. But actually, that's actually Biggie's tree. Biggie's tree. On and low. On and low. And I'm going to include Jigga into that tree.
Starting point is 01:18:21 But why would you include Jigga? I mean, you know, you'll hear the story. You know what I'm saying? Like, the full version of the story is that Biggie was here. Right. And Jay was, you know, they were Nas, Biggie, Jay-Z, and Pac. It was all battling for the number one spot at that time. Right? If you wanna be honest, right?
Starting point is 01:18:51 Get him a chair, get him a chair. General. General. General, give me a chair, Lee. I only got the biggest ones in my life, man. Well, get to you. But the story is is that, you know, it was Biggie and Nas in park.
Starting point is 01:19:09 Biggie and Nas what? Biggie, Nas, and Park. Oh, you're saying for that position. You see how you gave the class that you came out in? The generals in the building. What's going on, D-Type? How you doing, brother? How you doing?
Starting point is 01:19:22 That's right. This is the love of my life. You already know. Rough Riders baby. You already know my brother. Bro, you already know I stay in the cut. You work. You stay in the cut. You work.
Starting point is 01:19:32 So, continuing the story. Yes please. Right? The story is that... And I'm a rap purist. Right? Don't... It's nothing personal in any of my conversation.
Starting point is 01:19:48 I came up with you guys. I've seen you guys in addition. But I do know that I was a part of everyone's launch here. Down to the general. We shared some interests in DMX and Cam on Pull It. Right? That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Right? Before everybody knew, made it mainstream, we all helped each other back then. Right? We supported each other. Yo, we grinding together. Right? We was all battling. But there's a class that you all came out in.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Right. And here's the difference, right? Jay-Z, Tupac, Nas, and B. B. Came out in the same class that year. Jay-Z, Tupac, Nas, and B. B. Right? Jay-Z, Tupac, Nas, and Biggie. Biggie. Right? Jay-Z got left back.
Starting point is 01:20:51 In that class? In that class. Oh, wow. And he graduated with Norrie, DMX, John Woo. That's an ill analogy. That's an ill analogy. That's when he graduated. Well put. Well put. We got left back. Are we going to explain the rest of that?
Starting point is 01:21:07 Yeah. On the full version of Jake Trent. You're going to stop stopping him, bro. That's just my analogy. Hip hop. That's the full movie. No, that was well put, bro. I never looked at it that way.
Starting point is 01:21:15 It's a perspective. That's well put. I got a DMX story. I got a DMX story. No, no, no. That's a... I got a DMX story. I got a DMX story.
Starting point is 01:21:23 I got a DMX story. I got a DMX story. I got a DMX story. I got a DMX story. I got a DMX story. I never looked at it that way. It's a perspective. That's well put. I got a DMX story to collect. No, no, no. I never looked at it that way. Right? Cause there's context. Everything's here but it's out of context. Nice. Right? So that's what we want to do. We want to be able to connect the dots. And say, okay let's put the story back into context.
Starting point is 01:21:43 The stuff that's omitted. Right? And just, like I said, it's not even challenging. Challenge me on it. Right? I'm just going from the primalogical order of artists and, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, one of the things, one of the things, because we have so many, I respect and love everyone here, but I just want to ask you this.
Starting point is 01:22:07 We see so many biggie documentaries, we see so many biggie, and Un is not there. Right. What the fuck is going on? Why is it, why are they inviting you to these places? Is there a reason that you're not present? You don't want to be present? No, most of it is this, right? Ignore me,'t want to be present Most of it is this Ignore me We want to tell you
Starting point is 01:22:28 You can skip over If you want to But if you want to be honest You're going to do What you just did here You're going to say This guy was responsible he controlled mom he helped neil levine break me right right but or you could do it the hollywood way that the people who don't
Starting point is 01:22:54 want on around anymore just because whatever the reason gotcha right whatever the history whatever the whitewashing is right right? The truth, right? They can say, well, it's not important. Let's go right to the... You know what's crazy? Chris Whitey. You know what's crazy? Let's start their career there.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Right. And it's up to you to say, nah. Let's be honest, right? Yeah. mind let's be honest yeah right yeah because because i was what i was getting ready to say is that if if cam didn't tell that biggie story about you taking over the cam told that story i didn't know that what story you told me when cam said that un picked up biggie's legacy and it kept i didn't know no documentary told that cam said that So if he didn't say that, I would never know that. So you're right.
Starting point is 01:23:45 You know, one of my biggest, and like I said, I'm going to tell an honest story. But one of the things that I look at artists and I say, don't omit the truth. Right? Don't omit the truth. Right? Soit the truth right so don't skip over oh yeah Biggie signed me unsigned me and then I went to Rockefeller and I blew up right I'm gonna tell you you gave him an option on a day drink synopsis right it's it's an option you have each other's day to my quick time a slide I said I know a thing well you took that person I respect take it personal options you have the option to have a drink? Right.
Starting point is 01:24:46 That's true. That is a fact. That is a fact. Drink. Fun. Full version. I can't get it off you. I can't get it off you. You don't have an option.
Starting point is 01:24:54 Now D, I gotta ask you. Very true. D, where's the mic? You got the mic? Right here. Alright D, I gotta ask you because us losing DMX was probably the worst thing in hip hop. Where were you when people called you for that?
Starting point is 01:25:15 Because we all know X is always, like I sent myself preachers to X hospital. Every time X, like I would, and I'm not even religious like that. So when they initially told me that X was in the hospital, I didn't really... How did you take it?
Starting point is 01:25:34 When you heard it? I mean, I was home because his manager, the board manager, was always keeping me in touch with X. Pat? My dad, Craig. Craig was always calling. So I always call every informed with X. Pat? My guy, Craig. Craig was always calling me. So I always call every day on X.
Starting point is 01:25:49 Right. Like, just out of nowhere, like, what are you doing? Is it good? So I don't speak to him. I just speak to the people around me. Yeah. So I would be informed with everything that's going on. So by the time he went, I knew the time for him.
Starting point is 01:26:02 He went from his house till he went to the hospital because he called me right away. So I already knew that he went to the hospital So I was on point the same day I probably was on point in an hour So I was on deck, I knew he was over there Shot to the hospital He was unconscious, he was sitting there He was in a coma
Starting point is 01:26:21 It was a give or take at that moment. We don't know if he was coming in or coming out. Right. He took his toll and he wasn't able to come out of it. Right. He'd been in the hospital a couple of times, but he always was able to pull through. Yeah. This town, it just ain't pulled through.
Starting point is 01:26:38 So I knew what happened within an hour. I was already over there. So in the beginning, did you think that he was going to pull through? Of course. Yeah, me too. I always think that he was going to pull through because he pulled through. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:51 You know, so... But him, it's... That's just a part of what they're saying at the beginning. I promise. That's what's going through it the whole time, but you just know how to make it look good for him and make it work.
Starting point is 01:27:04 You know what I'm saying? So we believed in him. So me believing in him, the whole time, but you just know how to make it look good for him and make it work, you know what I'm saying? So we believed in him. So me believing in him is like me believing in myself. And shit, I ain't going to be able to do that. So whether he want to do it or not, I have to push him to make sure he did it. And that's just us believing in him like he believed in himself even more. So that's all it was.
Starting point is 01:27:23 And we have somebody that I believe in. And we're his family, he's like our brother, so you know. It is, no matter what he was doing or going through, couldn't nobody really go at him crazy like they want cause they know it's gonna be a problem. He ain't gonna be the problem, nigga, we don't have to handle it. Cause he's family, it's like if you my brother, don't care what you go through,
Starting point is 01:27:43 if we get it too far, we got to fix it. So my job for X was always fixing. Keeping it where niggas don't escalate and get too crazy. If there's a problem, no disrespect. And we always try to fix it. If him and John are getting a problem, or whoever, I try to fix it. I don't got to go to Irving. I know who to go to.
Starting point is 01:28:02 Let me talk to you. I know who's doing the real doing. You got to skip over the bullshit. Let's get back to it. So, I'm going to go to Who Who. Man, I'm sorry we took 350. That's how you do it. All right.
Starting point is 01:28:14 Let's make some noise for that. Yo, we was outside that hospital every day, weren't we? Yeah, yeah. Every day. We was outside every day. Oh, excellent. Oh, really? We was out. It was all of us out there every day were you? We was outside every day. Oh excellent. We was out, all of us out there every day. Wow. Thousands. I've only got good stories when it come to X. You know a lot of people think what they want but from the first day I ever met him,
Starting point is 01:28:38 genuine. But I'll tell you a story. I always talk about this story because it just make me smile when it comes to X. You know, we all know X had a little crazy. One day, I don't know if you remember, we was going to the studio to rehearse for the Cam DMX Pull It record. We was walking across the street, eating Chinese food. We was on 40, 50. What studio were you on? We was going to SIR.
Starting point is 01:29:04 SIR, 38th StreetIR 38th Street 38th Street yeah the two the two white guys was coming down in the force converted the force and we were walking across the street and F was eating Chinese food you already know what the story was going through the sky like yo get out the street come on big man ain't hard turn around he said he said they speak their own again. The Chinese fool was in the Porsche. The Chinese fool was in the Porsche. And then he kept walking with the, like the ground was just, he was just a genuine, but real dude.
Starting point is 01:29:39 He was like your buck. Everybody good? Now we're going up. Two weeks before he passed we was in harlem talking one four fifth and somebody came up to him and wanted to take a picture with him and he the person handed me the phone to take the picture he was like you know the fuck that is you just handed the phone wouldn't take the picture because i was like x you're a legend bro you you would not let me take the picture he wouldn't take the picture because they was like yo can you take this picture
Starting point is 01:30:08 me and actually like you know that is you know name fuller came from the record Timmy damn did no DMX became in the studio and this is when boomer was like eight weeks old before the two by This is about his dog. That's his dog. Yeah. You going in. Eight weeks old. He was a little puppy. Wow. Boom. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:30 So X was in the booth and he'll rap. And he kept telling the engineer, bullet, meaning bring it back. Yeah. Bullet. Yeah. Yeah. Bullet. He was like, that's the name of the song
Starting point is 01:30:48 i don't know if he continued that word in each of the sessions past that saying pull it go to the engineer like when he want to start over i think that he said it more than enough time no i'm talking about past that record. The record Pull It? Yeah, like... You know what I'm saying? Oh, okay, okay. Pull It, that's what you gonna say when you go to Pull It.
Starting point is 01:31:11 Yeah, I know why he said Pull It, yeah. I got a... whenever X wanna do a song, whenever I send a song for X to do with me, he would never say that shit is trash. He'd be like, yo, Gun, send me something else. You know what I'm saying? Yo, Gun, send me something else. You got something else? He would never say, yo, Gunn, that shit is whack, my nigga. He'd be like, yo, you got something else? Send me something else, Gunn. He would never say no. And one time the nigga came in the Hit Factory while we was recording and did a handstand and knocked Hennessy into the booth
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Starting point is 01:37:16 Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Let me tell you, I wouldn't trade them stories for nothing, man. There's just so many. And back then, I got to give uncredit. Back then, the labels were so political that if you wanted to get a song cleared, they were going to like, oh, they didn't clear this, so we not clear. You remember those days?
Starting point is 01:37:40 People like you, you used to always be like, yo, you need that? Yeah, I need that. I'm going to be honest. I'm sorry to cut you off. Go ahead, now go ahead. I'll be honest, like we need, we need entertainment. We needed it then and we need it now. Because it was really, it was, and I, you know,
Starting point is 01:37:55 I didn't know what you were doing back then for me. Like I didn't know, and you were like, yo, like you were looking at me like, yo, you're fucking platinum on a 12 people record label. Like they got lucky with you, Norby. Just listen to me. And I would listen to you. And I would come.
Starting point is 01:38:13 And my first summer jam was the boom. Wow. It was really the boom. My first summer jam. He's like, yo, Cameron is like almost headlining. He's going to bring out his man, Norm. Remember, we got Starsky and Hutch. We actually have an album somewhere laying around.
Starting point is 01:38:34 Me and Cam. Starsky and Hutch. He cleared Cam for us against the label. Cam's on me and Tariq's album. We had an uptown. So most people don't know this. We had a remix for Uptown Baby with Nas, Jay-Z, Cam,
Starting point is 01:38:48 all the boroughs that we mentioned. Right. What the fuck is your problem, sir? I'm gonna tell you what happened. Stop. They weren't clear yet. Stop. They wasn't clear yet.
Starting point is 01:38:56 You're supposed to bootleg your own self. You got a remix. What the fuck did you just say? So, we had... We had... We had... Give it to me me I got a point representing the right label came home J for Brooklyn we was doing the whole
Starting point is 01:39:11 nice for Queens and every it was not stop stop stop stop the Peter I'm gonna be honest what the young boys say it's all cat I feel like you all cat right now you got a version. You got something weird. We don't. I don't know where it is. But we started it. We already have.
Starting point is 01:39:30 But you have a version of Uptown Baby. No, I don't have it. We had them on board. All the artists were on board to do the records. They didn't do it, though. Because the label. Oh, no, you can't claim it. We got a couple versions.
Starting point is 01:39:40 We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple.
Starting point is 01:39:41 We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple.
Starting point is 01:39:42 We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple.
Starting point is 01:39:43 We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple.
Starting point is 01:39:44 We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple. We got a couple.
Starting point is 01:39:44 We got a couple. We got a couple of that we got some bars the person's you got that came in we call it said versus it Cam versus Jayden. Nah, it ain't in yet. Nah, this is not in. Jayden, that's... No, Mase did the verse. We got Mase, the back ten. Mase got the pen. The song was... So now, you may look at it now like that was just a one hit... Back then, the shit was on fire.
Starting point is 01:40:16 No, that was not a one hit one. So we were getting verses. That was a five hit one right there. Verses was contract with Mase. Huge. The biggest it could be. So we had... It was a go.
Starting point is 01:40:24 But motherfuckers was... you know what I mean? Let me just ask you, because they got beef with Joe Bud. I just had dinner with Joe last night. You do a versus with Joe Bud? One on one? Because y'all got... This is what I got? No, this is what I got.
Starting point is 01:40:35 They got two mean one records. No, but this is what I said. No, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I said they should do a one hit one to versus. Everybody got offended by that because they like guns. I ain't no fucking one-hit wonder. I own my shit, nigga.
Starting point is 01:40:50 I'm owning my shit. It was a hell of a hit. Also, the reason why they can't make that happen because niggas start naming other records. We in my hole. It's not the record. That's A-L and Al Scratch. No, I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:41:06 We can do a wonder versus, I'm saying. We can do one of the brothers. I'm just naming. The problem is, the problem is, you see the shit he doing? Every artist that I say, yo let's get Swiss on the game. We all go at each other one at a time. I can see Pump It Up.
Starting point is 01:41:22 But they all say, no. These niggas feel like they got morning your guns I'm like nori nori who wins pump it up versus deja vu Easy no, I want a street. I want to get drink to that I'm gonna say hip-hop way very loud safe answer Only nori to the trick who y'all got over there No, safe answer. I could never... No, no, no, hold up. I don't even know where he took the drink. Who y'all got on that? It's all right.
Starting point is 01:41:48 I'm going to be a big blink against you. No, no. Me and Joe Button. Pump it up, uptown. I'll take the drink. Keep it real. Who win it? Him against Joe Button.
Starting point is 01:41:59 It's all right. I'm not offended by nothing. I get more excited to hear uptown, baby. But that's also because remember Pump It Up's tough because you know I'm a rap nerd. So I was always like this is Scenario Remix to me. So like I love Pump It Up, it's a great record. He killed it. He killed it. But this was a different sort of that. This crossed over in a different way too. That record was remote. Pump It Up is a big hip hop record. Uptown Baby was a big one.
Starting point is 01:42:35 As a DJ, I was there when both those records came out. Deja Vu was definitely more of a big, big, mainstream hit. Because Pump It Up rocked the clubs. was definitely more of a big, big mainstream hit. Well, pump it up. Rock the club, J. Come Cheetah. Come Cheetah. That's what you're doing.
Starting point is 01:42:51 Pump it up. Pump it up. Pump it up. Pump it up. And that just took a BX on the second. We are. We are. We are.
Starting point is 01:42:59 We are. We are. We are. We are. We are. What about you? Pump it up. I'm absolutely taking a drink to zone. I need to hear you. Mungunga, pump it up. I'm absolutely taking a drink to that.
Starting point is 01:43:07 Taking a drink to that? God damn, you gonna take some? I'm taking a shot. Yo, we need some cups. We need some cups. This is all black. This is all black liquor. This is all black liquor.
Starting point is 01:43:23 That's a bird. That's a bird. Yo,. Come on, man. This is all right for you. That was a burn. That was a burn. That was a burn. That was a burn. Good. Tell me a crazy moment in hip hop. D, this is dangerous when it come to you because you are really neutral. Nah, you want ice on it? I'm terrified.
Starting point is 01:43:38 What's the goal? I'm terrified. Deja vu? Deja vu? Well pump it up, Joe Biden. That's my brother. I'm not gonna Biden. Un- That's my brother. I'm trying to open up music. That's my brother right there.
Starting point is 01:43:50 Big bro. You wanna take a drink? Take a drink. Take a drink, it's on me. I'm gonna go with what it is. All right. Pump it up. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:44:04 Yeah, man. All right, we saying nothing. That's it. That's it. That was tough. If it wasn't for the drops, this rap shit probably never would be going on. Tell me where you from, baby. I'm from Napa, Napa. Peter Mulderberg, hold on. Peter Mulderberg, tell me a crazy moment in hip hop for you.
Starting point is 01:44:12 A crazy moment in hip hop for me? Yeah, a memorable moment. A crazy one. One crazy one. He was in a hip hop club. He was in a hip hop club. He was in a hip hop club. He was in a hip hop club.
Starting point is 01:44:20 He was in a hip hop club. He was in a hip hop club. He was in a hip hop club. He was in a hip hop club. He was in a hip hop club. He was in a hip hop club. He was in a hip hop club. He was in a hip hop club. He was in a hip hop club. Peter Mulderberg, tell me a crazy moment in hip-hop, please. A crazy moment in hip-hop? Yeah, man. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:44:28 Crazy. One crazy one. Who wanted to beat me up? Oh, oh, oh. He's talking about the Mobb Deep SOBs. When I unknowingly invited Saigon to show up to a Mobb Deep show. Saigon! Saigon! Did not go as I planned.
Starting point is 01:44:49 Did not go as I planned. You pay very well. Bro, I mean, this is why we gotta wait till we do the full drink chips. The full version of the drink chips. The full version. Yo, hurry! Don't jack my... I'm promoting. My chat.
Starting point is 01:45:08 I don't know if it comes from Revolt or you or Dream Chats directly, but I need my chat. So, D, D. When they announced that Dipset... Now y'all stay in here. For two more minutes.
Starting point is 01:45:24 So when they announced that Dipset is going against the Locks, did you think that Locks was going to win? Because there's a lot of people in New York that doubted the Locks. You want to ask my opinion of that? All right, mine. You want to go first? No. That's right here.
Starting point is 01:45:46 That's kind of like asking... Hey, the mic. The mic. That's kind of like asking Russia and Ukraine. I mean, it's not... It's not even a joke. It's not even. There's some more people involved.
Starting point is 01:45:54 The locks is... You thought it wasn't... It's not even? It's not even. It's not even. It's not even. It's not even. It's not even.
Starting point is 01:46:02 It's not even. It's not even. It's not even. It's not even. It's not even. It's not even. It's not even. You gotta get some more people involved. The locks is... You thought it wasn't even? You thought the locks was automatically gonna win? I know because I raised them. I know exactly what you're talking about. 100%. That was a legitimate question. I had Cam in them too. Cam in them is family.
Starting point is 01:46:23 Of course. I'm from Harlem. I know all of them and I know all of them in them too. Cam in them is family. Of course. I'm from Harlem. I know all of them and I know all of them in RIO. I just knew if it came to the solo kiss and put a kiss out there, I know what it's going to be about.
Starting point is 01:46:38 Let me ask you. Solo kiss and solo cam? But, but, but, but, solo kiss and solo cam? But, but, but, but, D, solo kiss and solo cam? Go Nori on that bus. Nori on that bus. You picking solo kiss? I'm asking. I'll do that.
Starting point is 01:46:53 I'm doing solo kiss right now. I'm going to put solo kiss back in. This kiss is Chris. You know what I'm saying? Cam is hot, too. You got to know, I got all these buildings. They all good for you. Chris was always special.
Starting point is 01:47:07 We gotta figure out who we put Nori against, cause you always gaslight these fucking verses. Nah, I ain't doing nothing. Nah, Nori. I'm staying neutral. Okay, I need to ask you a question. You heard that Dipset is going against LO get locked where is your money at if I called you that day and I said me and you I got 20 on the locks or dip set where were you back on
Starting point is 01:47:37 if dip set listens to me excuse me if dip set listens to me they would have beat the locks. I'm taking Dipset You say you taking Dipset if they listen to you. If they had to listen to me. So you saying they picked the wrong records? Wrong order, wrong order, wrong order To not involve with that. Wrong DJ? No, no, I don't know, it was just wrong. It doesn't matter. Like Dee said, they're all seasoned for that battle. They come from that. J, X, B, all of it. They all come from hip hop. It's the battle is the battle, bro. It, regardless to whatever, the problem, what everybody sees, what the problems that Cam and them had is that they had bigger records.
Starting point is 01:48:37 Did he go to rehearsal? And the Lox do it in sync, over and over repetitively they were to smoke anybody under that concept condition right and I'm gonna tell you why what advantage right because their records was huge in New York. You're in New York in the Mecca. And you want to play out-of-town Dipset records. Yeah. Records that were huge in Ohio and across the country. But you're in the Mecca of hip-hop. That's why I kissed Roy.
Starting point is 01:49:18 Oh, you said kiss. No, hold on. But no, I got to say this nigga done gave me the kiss by itself. This is crazy. No, but the thing is, it wasn't... Respectfully, I love you, Un. You know I love you, man. But the thing is, it became more than the records.
Starting point is 01:49:34 It was more than... That's what I'm saying. They went back to hip-hop. They went back to 125th Street in the hall. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's how they killed them, right? But they from Yarkas, and you're talking about the Yarkas niggas went to 100th Street. No, I'm the way that's how they killed them right but they can y'all cousin each on the y'all cuz niggas went to one hands
Starting point is 01:49:47 Yeah, I'm just saying that The battle happened in Harlem Yeah closer, you know I'm saying like it was even easily to access everybody in all right You know I'm saying like they all think Come from the same school of getting that ring. Jay had to hump his ass all the way from Brooklyn to go get some
Starting point is 01:50:14 of that. You know what I'm saying? If you want to be the guy, you have to compete. That's what hip-hop is, bro. So, yes, Kiss and them took what... He didn't kill them with songs he killed them with bars rehearsing like you said but they're brothers though they're brothers you know what i'm saying Don't listen, listen. He came to battle. That's the distance. You want to go the distance? Can you go to the ninth inning?
Starting point is 01:50:53 I, one of my suggestions would have been, in hindsight, I would have started with Poe. I would have gave DMX his tribute, right? The crowd would have been lit, right? It would have been, this is their pulse, right? This is X's pulse. I'm getting ready to battle, and I'm paying homage to their leader. I would have sent this home. Because Locks for a song.
Starting point is 01:51:22 We could have literally get Paulette dropped on my floor. Locks for a song, it wasn have literally get Pullet, dropped the mic, and pulled it. Locks first song, it wasn't it. It's fucking. If they would have started with Pullet, they would have already jump-started it. He could have dropped the mic and left. No, it's true. He could have dropped the mic after Pullet. But it's that freestyle with DMX.
Starting point is 01:51:41 With DMX. It's that real record. It's just not on the record. It's a real record. It's just not on the album. It was huge. In New York. In New York too. In New York.
Starting point is 01:51:50 In New York too. That joint. All of everybody in that joint. The only record that took that down was NRE. You know how niggas do started song. You know how niggas do started song. You can't lip sync in New York. I can't hear you, sir.
Starting point is 01:51:58 You can't lip sync in New York. No, chill. They weren't lip syncing, sir. Don't call them lip syncing. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm They weren't lip syncing sir. Don't call them lip syncing.
Starting point is 01:52:12 I'm just starting. They weren't lip syncing. They didn't go to rehearsal. They didn't go to rehearsal. They didn't know what happened when a certain record was being played. They just went with it. When I got the third record, I was rolling my lips at that first record. I said, I know this dude. Jada, even Styles P.
Starting point is 01:52:37 When you can go on there and do that Larry White freestyle and stuff like that. And the clarity of your vocal coming across the people if you're a hip-hop person you want that that's what what makes Jay Z stand out clarity of his vocal Jadakiss is the clarity of the vocal so you can't when they start to my yo they sing a little lyrics and I said hit them with the uppercut now they don't change the format of rapping, it's over. They was talking about no more people on the stage. So you saw the tour.
Starting point is 01:53:12 Saw the tour. You saw the tour. Nigga, I have the deed to every stage. The Pop Tux. I'm the owner and the landlord. One of the partners and owners of every stage. That's right. Okay, I got the deed to this one tonight, nigga.
Starting point is 01:53:30 And we building it right now. Uh-huh. What we talking about over here? I'm killing for style. We doing drink champs. I was bumping the Yacht City Irish. I'm killing for style. I was doing drinks out there.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Smoke champs. We champs. Yo, I'm the bomb. Salud. No water? No, get a real flatbush drink. I don gonna drink out this smoke jam, make me eat jam. Yo, back jam, side load, loud. No water? No, get a real flatbush drink. I don't drink, I'm a spliff. Alright, alright, tap the spliff.
Starting point is 01:53:53 Tap the spliff, you got it in the air. Tap the spliff. Alright, tap on the spliff. Tap on the spliff. Go loud, go loud. I spliff, I spliff. Go loud, go loud. I spliff, I spliff.
Starting point is 01:54:02 How you doing, Norlie? I'm fantastic. I want y'all to know, Norlie's the first one to put me on wax out of my cool No, he's the first one put me on wax and give me a check and a black Yes Oh, yeah Thanks don't start this shit. I'll get makes for the props for each started from The mace you know what's up? More at far be over first all the whole it. The whole Brooklyn drip. Not only Farby, everything. Hats on, ball up, pop smoke the whole shebang. The whole whoop, everything.
Starting point is 01:54:50 I'm East Flatbush Church, yeah. I am the Black 10. Totally sublime. The 90s, the 90s. Yes. No, Sean know about me. Haze Jack know about me. Jimmy Hicks know about me. You ask him. I put in a lot of work. Shut up. I ain't got a lot. Stop. What you doing, bro? God damn right. You ask them I put in a lot of work Came no time ago 2015 introduced Brooklyn drill to North right
Starting point is 01:55:20 Brooklyn Joe to nori in 2015 the industry did not see it. It was good Bustin didn't understand understand. Right now you're all dancing to it, you're all singing it. Ah ha! Yeah! Ah! I told you! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Starting point is 01:55:31 Fuck you, Chuck! Ah! Ah! Fuck you, man! Yeah, I told you. That's what it's about. It's real shit. I ain't lying.
Starting point is 01:55:38 I ain't lying. I ain't lying for Norrie. Yeah. I'm very proud of you. Yes. I love what Norrie got burning on. Flatbush Martin. Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. I'm in here for Norris. Yeah. I'm very proud of you. Yes. I love what Norris got going on. Flatbush Mountain. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.
Starting point is 01:55:48 I'm in the church avenue. You are a real nigga time. Yes. The hood fuck with you. I just want you to know that. Hollywood fuck with you. Everybody fuck with you. And we fuck with you.
Starting point is 01:55:57 You know what I'm saying? And that's right. I did put you in your first. Yes, you did. Yes, I did. Yes, you did. And guess what? I love it.
Starting point is 01:56:04 I ain't gonna say nothing. First nigga trying to blackball me on a little bit. your first Bad boy I check, I hide the plaques, I look stupid. It's Nori paying his people. That's right. Nori paying his people, god damn. They said Nori for me, god damn. Everybody got to check with me from somewhere. It was Cliff who had the bag before Mase had the bag. Oh, yeah, he just said, no, the stairs. So why is Mase and Fabio beefing right now, and you not beefing?
Starting point is 01:56:40 I'm not beefing. I'm going to beef, because I don't have no lying in my shit. My shit is my shit. I said it's real shit Maury, uh Probably will never say no lie and no interview about me or he won't say nothing And you can't say nothing bad and base when he first met Bobby He don't remember was in the fountain blue hotel lobby
Starting point is 01:57:03 Because it was some shit going down 2015 but both weekend and we up the whole beach one record called swipey whoever don't believe that go to youtube watching paper rock gang swipey and you will see spix dog fabio box smoke all of them we're on bobby smother black that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's I Am the only person in Brooklyn that blood trip and fold in one house one stage one studio doing it Step-stop. Yeah. I love everybody. Oh my god. I wasn't ready. I'm always fucking ready. Did y'all see the show? Anybody show the show?
Starting point is 01:57:50 Yeah. They rebuilding it right now. Break shop. They rebuilding it right now. They rebuilding the stage. But our ice cube will come. Ice cube, it almost fell down, but they built that side. And I'm not the one.
Starting point is 01:58:01 You understand? You want to shout out to LL Cool J for bringing this beautiful thing here together. That real hip-hop in the building, y'all. Everybody here adds on. It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice. May God, bro. God bless. God bless.
Starting point is 01:58:15 That's right. He said it's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice. That's right. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly, DJ EFN and NORE. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials. That's at Drink Champs across all platforms, at TheRealNoriega on IG,
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