Drink Champs - Episode 338 w/ Jeezy

Episode Date: October 28, 2022

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legend himself and Drink Champs Alumni, Jeezy! The Snowman visits once again and brings the SNOFALL. Jeezy shares stories of his journey, giving away hundreds of thousands of mixtapes for free, driving Ferrari’s before the fame, working with Diddy, and much much more!  Jeezy also talks about his new project w/ DJ DRAMA titled “SNOFALL”. Available now! Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!! Make some noise for Jeezy!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆   *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps   Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com  Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps  DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions  N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreaga   *Check out our Culture Cards NFT project by joining The Culture Cards Discord: 👇* https://discord.gg/theculturecardsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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when you talk about thug motivation, when you talk about a hustler's hustler. We were talking about a man that's grind after grind, stay relevant, stay everywhere, stay with a hit record, hit album, classic album, whenever he wants to come. I thought this was a mixtape we was about to talk about, but they said, no, this is a full-fledged album.

Last time we had him on, we thought he was going to depart from his label. But they're here, and this is going down. He is constantly, he's a BET award winner just like us. That's right. Nominated for four times the Grammys. But like I said, this is one of the real ones. So we're going to stand up. We're going to salute him.

And off top, EFN, We're going to give him his flower Let's go First thing we do First thing we do Let's give him another flower First thing we do Is give him his flower Drink 10 frowns

Okay Yeah Because this is your third time This is your It's a real one right here Yeah it's a real one Those don't die Those don't die

They don't die It's better than the Grammy title That's right That's what Snoop said better than the Grammy type. That's right. That's what Snoop said. That's what Snoop said. That's right. So I'm going to go ahead and pop my champagne immediately. Get a drink on.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So, J.J., you know, going through your discography, man, you got hit after hit after hit. Man, you put in a lot of work. But have you ever, like, came close to your career? Like, people try to cancel you? Oh, of course. Really?

Yeah, all the time. I think this morning. Didn't happen, though. It didn't happen. I had a lifetime subscription. Right, right, right. It's just solid. So, um...

But the only thing that kept me from getting canceled, you know, even though they couldn't, and that's when the whole campaign, the snowman shit came. Oh, yeah, that's right, in the schools. Yeah, I know, even though they couldn't. And that's where the whole Camp Bandit Snowman shit came from. Oh, yeah, that's right in the schools. Yeah, I mean, it started there.

Shit, you was like the first canceled. Damn, yeah, I forgot that. And I didn't even understand that because I was like, damn, how y'all gonna stop people from wearing a T-shirt?

You know what I mean? So that was confusing. But as I went on to my career, I started to realize, like, when you make decisions that, you know,

that's gonna better you or your team or the people around you, everybody might not like that. Right. You know what I'm saying? It's just like, it's that crabs in a barrel syndrome. It's just like, you know, everybody ain't going to agree, so it's like, let's cancel them. But see, what they didn't know is they ain't put me in that position anyway.

The streets put me in that position. Right. And the streets don't cancel people. You just expire. Right. You know what I'm saying? You go to the penitentiary or you go into that wooden anyway. The streets put me in that position. Right. And the streets don't cancel people. You just expire. Right. You know what I'm saying? You go to the penitentiary and you go into that wooden box.

You know what I'm saying? I dodged one, which was a penitentiary. So, you know, I mean, you know, snowman is immortal, baby. It's like, this is real. This is what it's about.

You know what I'm saying? I lead by example. Right. And the moves that I make is show people like, or show the real ones, like you don't got to live by nobody's rules. Only nobody box you in

because that's the standard for them, and people want you to be the old you all the time, so that makes them feel comfortable being who they are. You feel what I'm saying? I respect that. Because I couldn't sit down and talk to the old Norrie. He probably had like five choppers right here. I can't take this.

I can't take this. I remember what- He was a different dude. So this is your own? Yeah. Coney Yack. Is the name Nod? Yeah, the name is Nod.

I partnered up with some people out of France. Okay. It look like some French shit. I ain't gonna, I still don't know that. We got Coney Yack, we got Gin,

we got vodka. Yeah, Nod is a spirit, so y'all give it up for that, baby. Let's give it up for that. And if y'all didn't know my history when it comes to drinks. So first I had a... I'll be on. No, but I had a Grey Goose situation, right?

I had a Grey Goose. Directly with Grey Goose, right? Yeah, I had to deal with Grey Goose. And I peeped it early. It's like, so y'all want to give me a little money to go out here and push your brand, but it's not mine. You know what I'm saying? And where I come from, it's like, that's like somebody gave me something on consignment.

That's not mine. You know what I'm saying? So I wanted my own brand. And when I got out of that deal, I went and sat down with my business partner, which is one of my mentors. And we built Avion up and sold it to Panora Card. You got a good check. It's your face. Look at his face.

Look at his face. I got a good check. He said, we sold it. Yeah, yeah. His eyes lit up. He said, we sold it. That's a big deal. You don't have a company and you sell it.

But it happened though because I was like, I don't know about this rap shit. Right, right. But it taught me because he went on to do Terramundo with The Rock. Okay. And Proper 13 with Conor McGregor. And I went on to do this, what I learned from him. So this is like, if you come from where I'm from, this is like having the whole damn liquor store.

You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Like, you got gin, cognac, and vodka. Like, you know. So, yeah. Good move, dodging a proper 13. You ever tasted that? I have.

It's horrible. Yes, it's horrible? It's horrible. I'm not a whiskey guy. Obviously, I'm a Japanese whiskey guy, so I don't really like scotch whiskey. So, no disrespect, Conor McGregor. See, that's what I'm saying.

The old Norrie wouldn't drink Japanese whiskey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. The old Norrie wouldn't drink Japanese whiskey. So, I'm listening to The Breakfast Club, I believe, yesterday. And, or was it today? Yesterday.

I think it was yesterday. And Freddie Gibbs come on. Right. And then they say something, they say, you know, this is the first time y'all seen each other. I think y'all seen each other in the airport. And y'all got to speak. So, how was that? Was that something that you wanted to do i mean this is the thing bro i

ain't never had no issue with gears man you know what i'm saying always knew he was gonna pop he's gonna be on and what i think about all this and music or really any of this shit street and everything it just be a lack of communication right Right. No, he said he was wrong. Yeah, no, and I respect that. Yeah, yeah, I respect that too. You know what I'm saying? Because I just, I didn't understand it. Right. But from where he was coming from, that's how he saw it. But if we communicated, I could've been like, no, bro, that ain't

that. You know what I thought? And this is me looking from the outside in. That's the inside I'm looking out, right? I always thought that, I think that how Ross was, at the time it was like you and Ross was taking shots at each at, right? I always thought that, I think that how Ross was, at the time it was like you and Ross was taking shots at each other, right? And it felt like Ross,

it felt like me kind of had Ross back. And it felt like maybe Gibbs wanted that same thing for you or you wanted that same thing from Gibbs. I think that's where the communication kind of, you know what I mean? I think what happened on my end is that, you know, I was trying to get him a deal which I wanted him to have

but I couldn't. So, it was a lot of frustration there. And the right deal, I'm assuming. Right, the right deal. And it's just like, I didn't want to hold him up and I'm like, bro, I don't try this every way. It ain't that you not gonna get a deal, it's just, I can't get it. But you've been young in that sense.

You know what I'm saying? Because you know what it is? You was really like the hottest thing in America. And I learned a lot about that too because I was in my own bag. You know what I'm saying? So I was doing things but I was still trying to keep my career where it was at too. So I learned

a lot from that experience but I do feel like, you know know if you really got an issue with another grown man when you see him you're gonna feel like that I ain't feel like that you know what I'm saying I was just like what up you know we yeah it's like yeah because we had some good times it was the miscommunication by the way every situation I ever been in in the streets or music has been a miscommunication or either somebody talking in between people. You know how it go.

If I tell you something and you tell him, by the time he get over there, it's a different, different. And he like, he said, what? You feel what I'm saying? And that ain't even what he said. You feel what I'm saying? You know what's crazy to hear you say that? I'm listening to your music,

and then I think you admitted to you being wrong in the Ross beef. Like, you was just like, that was crazy for Gibbs think you admitted to you being wrong in the rawest beef. Like you was just like, that was crazy for Gibbs to say that to you but then I'm listening to your music and I'm like, oh shit. It kind of went through. Again, this miscommunication. Again, miscommunication

because again, I'm walking down South Beach, you know, leaving the club. We like 300 deep. You know, I'm off that. We was drinking 1800 back in Quavo. Okay. I'm popping.

Oh, yeah. I remember this video. King. You know what I mean? Malcolm X. Yeah, you're coming out of Cameo. I'm just talking. You know what I mean?

Whoever wanted it, you know what I mean? They get it. Next thing you know, you know what I'm saying? It's Ross that I'm taking it from. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah. So, you know, man, I'm not going. It was an issue.

Again. Wasn't no issue, though. When I found, you know, Khaled. Shout out to Khaled. Oh, Khaled made that right? Khaled made that right? I ain't going to lie. Bar me for cutting you off a little bit,

but me just hearing y'all together, like, listening to y'all, I was like, damn, I'm so glad they squashed their beef. That's the thing, like, it ain't, you know, unless it's family or money, it ain't no beef. Right, that's real. It's just miscommunication, bro, and that's the problem with the culture the way it is now.

Like, you know, they ready to kill something about nothing, you know what I'm saying? Like, ain't no integrity in that, you know what I'm saying? We done went to war as a country several times. And once you done doing what you gotta do, you still gotta figure it out.

Because you gotta coexist. You feel what I'm saying? So even with the Ross thing, I would say, like, it just took hip-hop. You know hip-hop? Right, yeah. I knew hip-hop

because he was, I was working at his studio. Oh, okay. He's the actual hip-hop of the person. My bad. He have hip-hop. Okay, okay. And Khaled, because I trusted Khaled. Right. And he was like, yo the actual hip-hop of the person. My bad. He have hip-hop. Okay, okay.

And Khaled, because I trusted Khaled. Right. And he was like, yo, I just want to get y'all to sit down. But it's just like, you know, it's just like,

I'm thinking of sit-downs like me and like 50 of my homies or whoever he bring. He be like, no, you got to sit down, just you and Ross. Right.

And he was wanting to do the War Ready record. And, I'm going to tell you the irony of that. So, Khaled sat us down. And, let me tell you the irony of that. Cal sat us down immediately. You know, you know if you feel something

if it's an issue. Right. It was like, oh, you ain't say, I was like, nah, I ain't, you know what I mean?

So now we adapt. So we chopped it up, you know what I'm saying? I had Avion back then, so we took each other's, you know, drinks, swapped them out, took pictures, like, show love.

Oh, yeah. Right. But then let me tell you the irony of that. So we do the verse. You know what I'm saying? You know, I went turkey ham on that. All right. But he wants to shoot the video.

He wants to shoot the video in New Orleans. I think it's like Super Bowl or All-Star game. Okay. Why when they send the treatment, all the video is us and people around us shooting a bunch of real AKs. Oh, shoot. But they got blanks in them. So I'm just like, hey, so you had a video shoot all year. Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. But it's a war already.

So two people who just sat down. Wow. This is fire. You know what I mean? So it was tense. You feel me? It was tense. Real tense. But shout out to Wow, this is fire. You know what I mean? So it was like, it was tense. You feel me? It was tense, real tense. But shout out to Ross, though, man.

Like, even we went on tour and, you know, got money together and we trade game all the time because all of us are not the same. You know what I'm saying? Everybody got a different skill set. You know what I'm saying? He's good in his departments.

You know, I'm good in mine. You have other people that are good in theirs. So when you sit down, chop it up, and talk about business and future shit, it's bigger than just music. That's maturity, too. Right. It's bigger than music. It's like, yo, I'm doing this.

Right. You know what I'm saying? You know, you want support here or you want to get in and vice versa. Right. And I think that's, you know, at the end of the day, really what it's about. You know, you got to have money to live, money to survive. And money to have fucking fun. So,

I'll tell you something. I've seen you since you came into this game. Last time I seen you, we was in L.A. You were literally by yourself. Right. And it was like, it was the most peaceful I've ever seen you in life. Like, you were literally comfortable dolo. Like, you was, you walked in, you had a you in life. Like, you were literally comfortable dolo.

Like, you walked in. You had a little bit of tequila. You were chilling. You stood aside. We had a drink. Me, you, and Fat Joe. And then it was just, you just stayed the whole time just by yourself. Like, I want to say, what is it called?

When you zen? Yeah. I felt like you had a meeting with Phil Jackson. Yeah, yeah. And then you came into this party. Like, where's this new Jeezy energy? Like, I could feel peace in your life. I never needed validation, but I think when you strip the stereotype down and go with what it is, being a man first.

I've been on the front line with anything I know, anything I've ever been involved with. Some people were like Pablo Escobar. I was like El Chapo. I'm on the front line. You feel what I'm saying? And once I realized that, you know, when you get done paying for enough lawyers, you know what I'm saying, paying, you know, lawsuits and all these different things because somebody around you reacted or done something. You know, these civil suits, you know, you're back against the wall. People are stealing you $50, $60 million.

And it just dawned on me, like, you the one going to make sure you straight. You know what I'm saying? So I'm going to take care of me. I don't need to get on the front line for you. That's on you now. You know what I'm saying? So for me, I just rather roll dolo because I know I got the S on my chest, meaning, like, I ain't took nothing

from nobody my man Integrity you ain't going no hood no block I mean from here to you know a lot of deal people knew me before rap right

on forgetting money and being who I said I was so they have respect for me so even if I'm in somebody's city I'm still good because it ain't no bad energy

like I done something took something from you and then when it comes to you know the other stuff like the rap shit I don't move like a rapper I move like a grown ass man

you know what I'm saying like I ain't playing you feel me like that's that you know whatever it's gonna be it ain't gonna end here you know what I'm saying

but it has to be some type of super growth cause I remember me first time seeing you in Atlanta with BMF all over.

I'm talking about it's BMF shirts all over. Here in Miami, crazy, yeah. All over. And like, for you to go from that and be that comfortable there and I can see that

same comfortability with you by yourself. I mean, it's peaceful, bro. I don't want to deal with everybody else's issues, man. Because I'm not there yet by myself. I'm almost, I'm on.

I've been sitting and rolling around. I'm not there yet. You know what I'm saying? I've been getting lighter and lighter. It's like... Ain't no three other seats in the payback, so you myself. You're almost, though. I'm almost. I'm not dead yet. You know what I'm saying? I've been getting lighter and lighter. It's like... Ain't no three other seats in the payback, so you're good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He regrets it. Yeah, we go lighter. But, go ahead. I mean, I just feel like you just come to a point where, you know, you just, you good with you, man. Right. It's like, that's real love, bro. Right.

Like, you got self-love. You don't really need no validation from the outside. I just feel like that. You know what I'm saying? I know I like to do what I like to do. Everybody might not be into that. Right. You know what I'm saying? I know I like to do what I like to do. Everybody might not be into that. You know what I'm saying? I want to go to a party, dolo, and sip

champagne and nod with Nori without it being uncomfortable. You're like, yo, who is all this? You know what I'm saying? Your people there and Fat Joe come around, so it ain't extra. When you get to a certain point in the game and you risk it all like I have and you don't want

to lose it all. You don't even want to play like that no more. Because it'll only take you one time in your body and you're going to lose everything you got. Right.

I started to appreciate being lighter during the pandemic. Because it would be like you just, it's just you and your lady. You and your wife was the first one.

You had no choice at that point. Yeah, you had no choice. You had to take a test. Unless you was in Atlanta though. No, no, Atlanta. Miami got wild. No, no choice at that point. Yeah, you had no choice. You had to take a test. Unless she was in Atlanta, though. No, no, Atlanta. Miami got wild. No, no, no. I'm going to be honest. Atlanta is loose. Atlanta

is an amusement. I love Atlanta. We just came from Atlanta. We just won an award in Atlanta. Hey! By the way, congratulations. Yes, thank you. Thank you, Jesus. Congratulations. So, man, you know, moving around, because let's get to Quick Time and Slime, right?

Okay, let's get to Quick Time and Slime. I got it. Okay. So, GZ's been on twice, but we didn't have Quick Time and Slime. I don't think we did. I don't think we did. We didn't have Quick Time and Slime. Yeah, Quick Time and Slime.

Can you explain the rules, D.F.N.? So, we're going to give you two names, two things. You pick one, and we're good. You pick both or neither, the political correct question. Pick one? If you pick something, you're good. We're good. If you say both or neither of them, meaning you opt out of even answering,

then we all drinking. But we drink with you. We don't leave you out there. We all drinking. Yeah, we drink with you. What's't leave you out there. We all drinking. Yeah, we all drinking. Yeah, yeah, we drink with you. What's it called again? Nod. Nod.

I ain't going to lie. Nod sound hard. It sound hard. It sound like something you drink 4 a.m. in Paris after you had some crepes. You know what I'm saying? Or you pour it on your crepes.

Are you ready? Are you ready? You ready? Let's get it. Okay, Tupac or DMX? Tupac. Oh, that was easy. Okay.

Jay-Z or Nas? Jay. Okay. Dungeon Family or Wu-Tang Clan? Dungeon Family. Damn, you're outlining. He answered everything. Always outlining.

You can never catch an Atlanta nigga with that question. Shorty Red or Drummer Boy? Shorty Red. We might not take shots. Yeah, GZ ain't play. GZ's serious. Okay. Ooh.

Outkast or UGK? UGK. Okay. I respect that. Young Thug or Future? Future. Little Baby or Gunna? Little Baby. No Lim baby or gunner? Little baby.

No limit or cash money? Cash money, baby. Magic City or Blue Frame? Magic City, man. What you talking about? You should take a shot anyway. You said two weeks. Two weeks. Oh, yeah.

Oh yeah, I'm taking a shot with y'all. Y'all ain't skipping me. Get the fuck out of here. We went to Magic City. I couldn't throw the money correctly. I mean, like my shit, that's how I know

I'm a New York, I'm an old school New Yorker. I couldn't get it together. I was throwing a lot but it was just taking it. Everyone was looking at me like, what are you doing?

It's wrist work. Even my wife was like, come on, get your life together. You gotta flick your wrist a certain way. Yeah, it just wasn doing? It's wrist work. Even my wife was like, come on, get your life together. You got to flick your wrist a certain way. Yeah, it just wasn't working

for me that day. Yeah, because you're going to give somebody a concussion if you hit them in the head. Yeah. Right. I wasn't ready

for the concussion part. Being at the regular Ciroc? Oh, he getting it? All right, cool, cool, cool.

I'll owe a shot. We drinking. All right, y'all drink. I'll owe a shot. Okay. Zay Tobin or Metro Boomin? Metro Boomin.

Metro Boomin. New Jack City or Menace to Society? Ooh, New Jack City. I'm about to get money. Okay. Okay, yeah, that's right. Because Menace to Society was, okay. All right.

ATL Jacob or 808 Mafia? ATL Jacob. DJ Khaled or DJ Drama? DJ Drama. I love that. Y'all got a mixtape coming right now, right? We got a mixtape coming. He's making this quick time with Slime for real.

It's quick time. Yeah, yeah. I ain't going to lie. Wait, I got So So Def or Bad Boy? Bad Boy. Atlanta Airport going to be real. Yeah. Yay or for real?

Yay. Yay? Yeah. Loyalty or respect? Loyalty. Loyalty. Why? This is easy.

This is the first easy. The quickest. Yeah, that's the craziest quickest Quick time with Slime Yeah, yeah, yeah You know your shit Yeah You ain't playing But why?

Why loyalty over respect? Because if somebody If somebody respects you They're going to be loyal Right You know, somebody can Respect you and not be Meaning like

Somebody can have love for you But still not be loyal Right If somebody's loyal Right There's something there Right Like you might not even like me You know what I'm saying? But you're not going Do nothing to cross me out still not be loyal. Right. If somebody's loyal, there's something there. Right. Like, you might not

even like me, you know what I'm saying, but you're not going to do nothing to cross me out because you're like, you know what, he brought me in the game

or he showed me something, he gave me a craft, it's just like, I ain't going to do that. Right. You know, and where I'm from, you know,

I would rather, you know, that's what kept me alive, loyalty. Right. You know what I'm saying, that's what kept me out of the business

of loyalty. Like, my, you know, my older cousin that did 15 years for me for 10 years came out, you know what I'm saying? That was loyalty. It wasn't that he didn't throw me under the bus because he respected me. He was loyal. He was like, you got a shot. You know what I'm saying? You can, you can be something. So I'm gonna go ahead and, you know, take this time to lay down and make sure you're good.

So shout out to him for making sure. Yeah, man. Shout out to Goldmine for making sure y'all got a young Jeezy because if he wouldn't have sat down, it wouldn't be no me. But I'm going to take a shot today. Take a shot today. Okay, I'm on God. You shot still not ready?

Yeah, come on. The fuck? God's being racist over here. Give me water, man. Mr. Lee? I'm watermelon Mr. Lee I'm offended yeah I'm offended although I love the watermelon

so I don't know gotta love the watermelon you gotta love the watermelon yo Jeezy man salute to you man salute to you too salute man the team came

they was ready hit a promotional truck outside you ain't playing around every time you come to Dream Channel you don't play around. Yeah, man. First time you came, you had girls. What happened to the girls?

Shit, they weren't loyal. No, they weren't loyal. Okay, okay. All right, look. I just went through your discography. Okay. You know I'm dyslexic. Which is crazy, by the way.

So, yeah. So we got to Freddie Kibb's question. But back featuring Yo Gotti. Right. How did that record come about? Gotti, my man, me and Gotti came in the game together. You know what I'm saying? You just performed with this artist at the BET Awards.

Yeah, shout out to ESC. I was there after I won my award. We were right there. We were on stage. Yeah, we was on stage. Don't forget that part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't forget that part. Yeah, shout, yeah. Don't forget that part.

Yeah, shout out to Gotti. Like, you know, like with Gotti, man, me and Gotti, if me and Gotti was still in the street, like, we'd probably be getting money together. That's just how we cut. You know, Memphis and Tennessee and Georgia's like hand-in-hand. But me and Gotti came in the game together when I was running around doing my first mixtape run.

Like, for Streets is Watching, Intrepid Die, that's when I met Gotti in Memphis. I didn't know that that's what he was doing, music. I knew him as a street guy. Like, he knew me. That's crazy. So we kind of just grew up through the ranks and always stayed in touch. He's like, you know, me and Gotti see that. We talk about life. It don't really be

about music, you know what I'm saying, as much. And I just hit him sometimes. He hit me about Act Right and I was like, yo, he said, yo,

I want you to get on this record and I was like, yo, I'll do it but I just signed this artist from Cali which was YG. I was like,

you know, YG got to be on it with me. He was like, cool, run it. And I said, one more thing. He was like,

what's that? I said, we got to shoot the video in the Bay. We got to go to East Oakland and shoot the video. He was like, let's do it.

So all that happened like that. Wow. So that's the kind of report we got. Then what about Y the Bay. We got to go to East Oakland and shoot the video. He's like, let's do it. So all that happened like that. Wow. So that's the kind of report we got. Then what about YG signing? He still signing? No, no, no, no, no. But I brought YG. I had him from Def Jam and brought him over with me.

Wow. And we did his first album. His first album, I think. I don't know, two times platinum. What? My Crazy Life. Okay. I think it is My Crazy. No. What? My crazy life. Okay. I think it is my crazy.

No, no. You're flossing on us. Go ahead. You're flossing on us. But, you know, at the same time, though, I didn't ever want to say that, but I kind of felt like that was an accomplishment of his own to even put an artist that was from the West Side, California,

in a mix like that. What made you want to shoot it in the Bay, though? Because I knew it was going to be like, that's what you wanted. You wanted that real. The hyphy. And that was crazy, because it was like,

when we first went out there, you know, we out there with the trailers, it was like 10 people out there. When the word got out, it was like 7,000. You know what I'm saying? People going dumb in the streets, you know, doing their crazy,

you know, ghost riding the whip. You know what I mean? So shout out to the Bay for the love. But act right, or not act right, but back, I hit Gotti up and he I sent him the beat and he just put a

verse on it. And then I heard something he said in the verse and then I chopped it up and made it a hook and then sent it back. And then told him to put a verse on it. And then I put a verse. So I put the song together. So we didn't have a concept.

He just said something about back. And I just put it together and tried to collect that. Okay, so let's address that other fit in the room. Let's go. Let's talk about Snowfall. Oh, yeah, Snowfall. That's the new album. Because by the time this is out, this is out of here.

It's out. It's out. Shout out to DJ Drama. You know, a lot of people don't know how me and Drama got in the game. By the way, Drama didn't even want to do my first mixtapes. You know what I'm saying? Oh, he was too Hollywood back then? Yeah, yeah.

He was on his light skin shit. He was living in... Okay, yeah, okay. All right. All right. I understand. High yellow. High yellow.

Yes, yes, yes. You know, I came over his house. He lived in the hood on Boulevard, 4th Ward. You know what I'm saying? I'm getting money for real. You say 4th Ward? Yeah. Sounds dangerous. I'm getting money for real. Did you say 4th Ward? Yeah. Sounds dangerous.

I'm getting money for real. I'm living in Buckhead at the time, right? I live with, you know, I'm living. You feel me? I come over his house.

He asked me to take my shoes off. He stay in the hood. I'm like, who's this? Who's this yellow? You know what I'm saying? You got to respect that. That's a fly ass thing.

You got to respect that. And we just, he started doing my show takes for $100. And I kind of seen what he was doing. I was like, yo, I want you to do a tape. And he was like, nah, you ain't hot enough. I'm like, shit, I got money. That's hot.

You feel me? And we went back and forth for months and months. And then he just finally decided to do it. And I took him a bunch of songs over there. And we did Streets is Watchin', which was supposed to be called G's Up at first, but I changed the name at the last minute. And when I done it, I was already working on Trap or Die just to tell him that. You know what I'm saying?

So then, you know, of course I went back in. I was just like, I put this mixtape out, and I started to see some momentum. But I'm like, how can I do it bigger? So this is when I went and got all the footage I had and made a DVD for Trap or Die and then put

Trap or Die out with the DVD and to this day like probably the best thing I ever done I remember being in the studio with Trick and Jazzy Faye

like I'm about to put out a mixtape and they're like you're crazy why would you give your music away for free I was pressing up you know five, six hundred thousand CDs and passing them out you know what I'm about to put out a mixtape, and they're like, you're crazy. Why would you give your music away for free? You talking, I was pressing up, you know, five, six hundred thousand CDs and passing them out.

You know what I'm saying? At clubs, me. You know what I'm saying? Rumors of you having a Lambo and- Yeah, I was passing out of my Ferrari. I go park my Ferrari at the top, go out there with my little crew. Okay, tell me. You know what I'm saying?

I just want to- He was passing out your mixtape. Yeah. His own mixtape. Yeah. His own mixtape. To get signed or get exposure in a Ferrari. Yeah. Okay, I just wanted to make sure I got that right. By the way, I was doing Boys in the Hood shows

with Boys in the Hood, and we was getting paid $1,000 all together. At the same time, it was this. As it was coming up. And I'm in a Ferrari. Y'all, it was so crazy. It's four of us and the manager. You spend $200 a piece. I got half a million dollars in the front of Y'all, it was so crazy. It's four of us and the manager. You spend $200 a piece.

I got half a million dollars in the front of the car that's the trunk. I'm like, I'm confused. You know what I'm saying? I'm just like, you know what I'm saying? I'm being real.

And it got to the point where I just let them keep the money because it wasn't going to do me any good. You know what I'm saying? But I wanted to, my point in case was

I wanted to do anything to get myself out of the situation I was in. And that was before Bad Boy did a deal. We gotta take a shot for that, man. We gotta take a shot for that, goddamn. I'm sorry. And so drama did trap or die, and I think trap or die

made drama a believer, but it also you know, saved my life. It took me out. Coño, really? Oh, shit. That's that... me out. Coño, what up? Oh, shit. That's that, that's that, my bad. That's that watermelon

kicking in. Yeah, that's that watermelon. My bad. Be careful with that shit. Shout out, baby. Yeah, salute, salute,

salute. Tanard, Tanard, motherfucking GZ, goddamn. Yes, sir. But if Khaled and DJ Drama

was to really battle on Versus, you coming out with Drama? I think I'm gonna be expected. He'd have to be on both sides. You coming out with drama? I think I'm going to be a spectator. He'd have to be on both sides. Yeah. They've got records.

But you did pick drama, though, right? Yeah, because I picked drama because we got history. Not that me and Khaled don't. But you're trying to say Khaled's the L.A. DJ, though. That's what you're trying to say. I look at Khaled as more of an artist, though, for me. Drama's an artist, too. No, I think they're kind of in the same vein.

Drama don't like people not calling him an artist. That's what this whole thing is about. That's the light-skinned shit. He was that light-skinned shit. They both DJ club. They both DJ radio. They both put out albums. Right, right, right.

I rock with both of them because Khaled gave me a shot too. So I want to be clear about that. I remember we was all at this club. Remember it's called Amnesia? Yeah, yeah. It was all Amnesia, about clear about that I remember we was all at uh this club when it's called amnesia yeah yeah it was all about 400 deep I remember I was there I was actually there you know the irony of you saying I was watching Blue Da Vinci's record at the time listen the irony of him saying amnesia and you saying I remember that's the exact opposite of amnesia I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I tried to get smart on y'all. That's it, I tried to get smart. This is when y'all came with the buses. We came with the buses,

and I had Get Money Over Here with Boyin B, which was on the first Mixtape Me and Drama did. Shout out to Boyin B, he was one of the first major artists that gave me a feature. And I remember going to the bathroom, I was like, yo, where the bathroom at? And he's like, upstairs.

And I went upstairs, because we was in amnesia, and I go upstairs, and all I see is this cat. I don like, yo, where the bathroom at? And he's like upstairs and I went upstairs because we was in amnesia and I go upstairs and all I see is this cat. I don't really, I know Khaled but I don't know him. He's standing on the counter

and he going crazy. He's crowding everybody. So I go downstairs and I tell everybody, yo, what's a whole another club up there? So we all go upstairs, including Fabulous

and all of us go upstairs. Fab go holler at Khaled, Khaled give him the mic, he rocks it. Right. Right? So I'm standing beside Fab, I'm like, yo, ask him, can I get the mic too? Khaled give me one of those, you know, I mean, like, who is this? You know what I mean?

And I'm like, yo, I'm Young Jeezy. He's like, who? Like, we don't know you. I'm just like, yo, man, so I get my man to give him the record. You know, I'm prepared to pay him to play the record. Is this his temple temple his birthday party no no no this is I remember that yeah so I think one of the homies told me I'll just play his record he played get money over here with uh with Bun B this was probably one of the biggest records in Magic City at the time and this the roof flips off and I

remember Cali looking at me like oh shit that's how me and Khaled got cool because he had to see it and it just went from there Miami was just like

already my second home but that took it to another level so shout out to Khaled for that you know what I'm saying right so

be clear what your money is betting on even if you ain't going to come out and perform with either one. He really wanted to go.

Yeah, what would you bet? As far as records. Yeah, what would you bet who would win, Khaled or Drama? I mean, is Drama using mixtape records? How does this work?

I think so. It's all gold. I tell you what, not because I'm being neutral. I would want to see because I don't know. All right, let's take a shot for that, guys. Yeah, I'm being real I would want to see cause I don't know alright let's take a shot for that guy

yeah I'm not I'm being real that sounds fair that sounds fair I want to see cause that's the convo they've been having I've been gassing it up

is he gonna be able to use Jeezy records nope because yeah that's what I'm saying because well no but you're saying it has to be his records though that he made

with you though right it can't just be a mixtape record he took from somebody else. That's what I'm saying. How does that work? That he's a part of. Yeah, he's a part of.

Oh, yeah. I mentioned the studio. Right. Because Kelly has more bodies of work. Probably more. And a little bit of bigger work. More studio albums. Right.

That's what I'm saying. Right. You got your shot ready? Yeah. Okay, come on. I already see what's going on. And that's a Monte Cristo. Now, what kind of cigar is that?

A Monte Crystal? That's a Monte Crystal. You know I know my shit. I'm a part of... That's the 80th anniversary, right? I don't know that part. Yeah, that's that big boy shit. Yeah, that's like 500. I got you on it.

It's about 700 stick, right? Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. Goddamn. Salud, salute. Cheers. Cheers. That's the expensive bigger right here, y'all.

You better salute him. You better salute him. You better salute him. Goddamn. So do you watch BMF? I haven't. I've seen some passing. Why not exactly producer or producer on that? Me?

Yeah. Honestly? Consultant? Nah, man, because it's too tricky. I know everybody for real. Okay. honestly consultant nah man because it's it's too tricky I know everybody for real

okay everybody's not going to be happy with that you know what I'm saying and for me that's not my that's not my story

to tell you feel what I'm saying so I mean it's it's it's affiliated like whenever people hear BMF

they always say the first artist of BMF was Jeezy. Right. You know what I'm saying? Which is not true, but yeah. It's not true, but I mean, on an actual level. It was a venture. Oh, he was the first artist?

Yeah. Yeah, but he didn't break nationally, right? I was never a BMF artist. He was directly a BMF artist. He was a BMF artist. Right, okay, that or that. Right, right. But you was affiliated.

Me and Meeks was like, you too. Right, right. You know what I mean Which means that I had You know And I had my crew Right So that kind of It was like

If you cool with Nori Right And all of us cool with Nori Then you cool with them Right You know what I'm saying He got his own crew Yeah so it was like that

Then we come together Like the United Nations Right right right Yeah we got every Nationality And it was like We was hanging And being Like the United Nations Right right right Yeah we got every Nationality And it was like We was hanging And being in the same spots

But like me and Meeks Was really like Like that though Right Me and Meeks and J-Bo Like them were my You know my guys But again like

That's not my story Even when it goes back To the 50 boys And all that stuff Like I didn't even know him then Right So that's not my story Cause on your record

You said welcome home T That's Meeks' brother right You said welcome home T That's um Meets his brother right You said welcome home T Right He said But you said Some niggas might owe you money

But that ain't me Yeah so what was What was that line about Because Because there was people Putting out narratives As if I owed them Oh

I don't owe them anything Right You know what I'm saying Um I've never Done business That type of business With them to owe them anything. So I just think the narrative was starting to be like, you know, if it wasn't for that, it would be no me.

You know what I'm saying? And I just didn't understand that. And I don't really know T. I knew of T. Because when I was kicking it with Meech, him and T were like beefing, beefing. You know what I'm saying? I'm glad they worked it out.

the two times I met T was, well, the two times I talked to T was the first time I was at a party with Puff, Boys in the Hood party in Dallas. And I'm in there with Puff party with Puff, Boys in the Hood party in Dallas. And I'm in there with Puff and the rest of the Boys in the Hood. And somebody come over there, you know, a bunch of BMF chains.

I'm like, yo, T want to talk to you. Me knowing what's going on with them, I'm like, I'm by myself. Oh, okay. And you on the meat side of it. Okay. Okay. I'd be saying, okay. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck.

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I'm like, damn, that's what's up. But I didn't know him to, like, reach out and be like, yo, you good? Because I didn't know him. You know what I'm saying? But I have love for him. I didn't know him to be, like, in his mix. You know, I have love for him. Right. Oh yeah. I didn't know him to be like in his mix. You know,

if he hit me, of course I'm going to pick up the phone because that's the bro. Right. But I didn't know him to be like, you know,

reaching out and saying shit. Yeah, so that's real. Let's see. Okay. Let's move on, God damn it.

Let's move on. That's a quote for Sonny? Yeah. No, no, no, not yet, not yet, not yet. Hold on, let me go. Uh-oh. Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. So what was the situation? We actually talked about it one other time you were here,

but for this episode. Right. With Boys in the Hood and Bad Boy and your involvement and when you kind of left that situation. Okay, so I never left. I was hot as fist grease. Right, yes. You feel me? Like, with all the left. I was hot as fist grease. You feel me? Like, which was all the tapes that I was passing out

out of my car. You know what I'm saying? And all the promo I was doing because I started guerrilla marketing. Like, I really was the one out here, like, pushing the line with, like, spending his own money. I spent, you know, millions to get on, you know what I'm saying, before I seen anything.

And with Boys in the Hood. And this is Block Entertainment, right? Yeah, this is Block. So Boys in the Hood, God bless the dead, Kim Porter, which is a sister of mine, which is Puff's kid's mother, knew the homie, and her friend Erica,

I mean, Ebony, sorry, which is my sister too, hit me. And it was like, yo, you got to come by the studio. Puff got this group. He wants you to do a song. So I went and the first song I ever did was them boys. By the way, like I'm not, I'm still not a rapper. I'm still riding around in that Ferrari with half a million in the front. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm not a rapper. So I get in the room with these guys, and they're doing this song, Them Boys, and I'm not a rapper, you know what I'm saying? So I'm in here with people who like spitting bars, you know what I mean?

So it took me like an hour and a half to just write my verse, and it took me like another hour to put it down because I'm not so familiar with the studio. So by that time, everybody walked out because Trick was there, Jazzy Faye was there, and everybody was there. And I remember them like, you know,

people in the hallway talking shit. Like, man, he wack. Ooh. So I remember I put it down and I walked down the hallway and told them to play it. And it was like,

if it's taking too long to lock up, by that time, the full bar came. Everybody that was outside talking shit was in the studio going crazy. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah! I was like, yeah, I told y'all, you know what I mean? What happened was, you know, I was about my business early and I didn't need anything from anyone. And when Kevin Liles and L.A. Reed signed me to Def Jam, Kevin left two weeks after he signed me. To Atlantic. To Atlantic, Kevin Liles at L.A. re-signed me to Def Jam, Kevin left two weeks after he signed me.

Oh, to Atlantic. To Atlantic, Kevin Liles. And they never told me who the next president was going to be. So when I was walking to Def Jam to go to the building, I seen this black Maybach pull up. And I'm sitting there. You know how you run your credentials so you can get the pass and all that, give them your ID? Yeah. And the door opened, and it's Hove.

He's like, yo, Jeezy, what's up? I'm like, what's up? You know what I'm saying? So you can get the pass and all that. Give him your ID. Yeah. And the door opened and it's Hov. Mm. He like, yo, Jeezy, what's up? I'm like, what's up? You know what I'm saying? Like, hey, he's like, come on, walk up with me. You knew him prior to that? I've seen him. OK.

But not like that. OK. Like, we ain't had no conversation. Oh, so in that little area that you put your ID in, you're the security guard. They give you a little badge. They say just such. Yeah.

And then Hov walks in and said, come walk up with me. He was already the president? He said, you know, I'm up here. I got you. OK. I'm like, oh, shit. You know what I'm saying? I love Kevin Lyles McDowell.

You know what I'm saying? This shit started to make sense now. You feel me? OK. You know what I'm saying? So when I got with Ho, I instantly realized, cause I love Puff, but you know, I had little man syndrome back then.

So every time I was around Puff, I was trying to show him, I got the same watch as you, same watch as my whole thing. I'm like, my chest was out. And he was just like, yo man, you know what I mean? So Puff, he was just like, yo, what's up? He was like, relax, calm down, calm down. So it took Jay, he was like, yo, what's going on with you and Puff? You know what I'm saying? I'm like, yeah, what's up? He was like, relax. Like, calm down, calm down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it took Jay. He was like, yo, what's going on with you and Puff?

You know what I'm saying? I'm like, yeah, he got to know that I'm woo-woo-woo. And the whole time I'm talking shit, I'm not realizing that Puff is on the other end of the pool table. Oh. Oh, shit. I didn't know y'all was playing pool. How did the pool happen? No, no.

So, no, this is like one day we was in the 40-40. Oh, OK, OK. I'm thinking it's the same day. He's like, yo, what's going on with you and Puff? I was like, oh, you know, you know I'm getting money. You know how it is. You a street guy. You feel like you get money. You close to Jay-Z now. It's like you ready to go to war for him for no reason.

And I'm like, you cool with him? He's like, yeah, yeah, that's my man. And he was like, and then he's like, Puff is on the other end of the table. So me and Puff had already done the Boys in the Hood deal. But it was like it was a lot of things that happened during the deal that kind of like made me feel different. Like meaning like I'm going to Magic City and Puff is calling my phone to sign the deal for Boys in the Hood. But I'm telling him I'm going to Magic City and he's calling my phone back to back.

And he like go to Kinko's and sign the contract and send it back, like, with the fax machine. By the way, kids, Kinko's is a place you should go to get copies. Xerox is the shit. For those that own Xerox, that's how you copy some shit.

Let me continue. So now I'm like, yo, I ain't going to Kinko's. So, you know, I just had a tip on my shoulder, and it was when Jay was like, yo, man, like going to King Kong's. So, you know, I just had a tip on my shoulder. And it was when Jay was like, yo, man, like, you know, he sat me and Puff down. And we just, you know, talked. You know what I'm saying? I got a chance to really know because I didn't really, I knew him, but I knew him through like me and him. So I only saw him in club settings.

So I was like, I'm a street guy. You know, you're going to respect me. That was my whole MO with any rapper, any entertainer. Because it was just like, I'm risking my life out here. Y'all ain't going through this shit. So anyway, Puff and Jay sit there, and I go, look, man, I want to do the Puff deal, but I'm only going to do one album. I gave Puff a number, and he was cool with that.

You know what I'm saying? And me and Puff have been cool ever since. That's my bro. We chop it up about business, spirituality, whatever. But he was like, all right, cool. And now I got Puff and Jay in the same room, and they agreeing to let me do this Boys in the Hood album. Only one album.

Push Thug Motivation back, which is highly anticipated, for a month. Which is your first album, at least on Def Jam. Right, Thug Motivation 101. So in my mind, I'm coming off a trap or die, and I'm using them boys as another marketing piece. You know what I'm coming off a trap or die, and I'm using them boys as another marketing piece. You know what I'm saying? So now I got two deals, and I'm building this momentum. That was my mindset.

That was genius. Right. And with the guys, you know, and no disrespect to them, I just think I was a little more seasoned when it came to business because I came out of the streets, and I was used to dealing with real... When you say the guys, you're talking about the other people from Boys in the Hood. Boys in the Hood.

So they didn't understand, you know, what I was doing because I'm thinking business. I mean, I get the records. And I also knew that them boys was a hit. Was you ever looked at as like you going for the selfish move or... I think that, if I'm honest, and they'll probably tell you this, I think there's been some situations where I kind of

tried to put them on the game but they probably looked at me like I was separating the group and you really wasn't the official

rapper at that time neither I was the street guy who just had one good verse on the whole project and by the way and I was on a tour

with like like Eazy-E and I was on a tour with Jody Breeze like Jody Breeze was the guy like all the girls left Jody

like we go to the bus like damn like I got a hundred thousand dollar Rolex you don't see this what's going on you know what I'm saying

but before you continue cause I also worked the Bad Boy Records right and he was on where did the where did the where's the part

of the street team too and we they was pushing. We was the Miami street team. I was running it down here. And they were like, okay, this is a South record. Y'all got to push this. But there seemed to be some confusion when that record came.

Because it was like, you're in the group, you're not in the group. Right. And I don't remember clearly how it was, the timeline back then. Boys in the Hood group? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, record? Yeah, the timeline back then. Boys in the Hood group? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Wreck-It? Yeah, the Wreck-It. Well, the thing was that

rightfully so, I'm my own boss because I'm pressing on my own CDs. I'm paying for my own stuff. I'm signed to Def Jam. I got a publishing situation. You ask Big John, he'll tell you. Right. Big John is that money man. I didn't even cash my

Def Jam in my publishing check. You understand what I'm saying? Like, I just had these checks in my house. Well, the publishing check I lost in a pair of jeans, which was crazy because I had to figure that out

because I didn't know. And then I had, you know, my Def Jam check that I didn't even cash because I had bread. And I remember Jay called me one day.

He's like, yo, what are you doing? I hope they reissued that check for you. Okay, okay. Did you lose the publishing check? You don't even cash because I had bread. And I remember Jay called me one day. He's like, yo, what are you doing? I hope they reissued that check for you. Okay, okay. Did you lose the publishing check? You don't even remember?

No, I lost it. And then I called Big John. Shout out to Big John. And he had to give you that check again. He had to reissue it. He didn't understand what the hell was going on.

Because nobody can't take that check in cash. But I'm going to be honest. You know, I'm a street guy. I had my money in little time bags. I thought when he gave me the check that it was already somewhere I needed to go pick it up.

I didn't know about bank accounts. Like it was a cashier's check. Right, right. Like, I'm good. You know what I'm saying? And it was a huge check. A huge check. And me and John laughed about that alone,

you know, just anyway. But the reality of it is, I didn't discuss with the guys what I was doing on the business side, so they probably felt like that I was being selfish. But I had a plan. And that was my plan. Because y'all was never really officially a group.

Y'all was kind of put together. I was getting a label deal with Def Jam, which was CTE. Shout out to the new deal, Corporate Thugs Entertainment. Uh-huh. But I had a plan. And I wasn't trying to just be in a group. You see what I'm saying? Because I wanted to break my own artists and do my own thing.

So, again, communication. I didn't talk to them and say, look, this is what I'm trying to do. I was more so like, I'm going to do this. Y'all got to figure this shit out. That's probably why it kind of went a little left and to make it more awkward I was working in Def Jam as well

so then we working his records there oh my god he's working Bad Boy and Def Jam yeah yeah oh KU's one of them type of niggas

yeah I had all the accounts at that time he's playing both sides of the middle I'm fucking with him I'm taking a shot for that G

he's taking a shot of you he's playing both sides of the middle the nod is hard. Don't drink that shit. I'm sorry. Why you keep

dissing my mom? I keep going on that, man. I'm sorry. This is a great joke. That's all. Salud, Jeezy. Salud. Salud.

Cheers. Salud. So, when I got the word that you're doing a new album, I'm saying, I feel like Jeezy got all the accolades. Right.

Got all the success. Got all the money. Beautiful family, beautiful wife. Why even come outside? Like, why not stay and eat peaches all day? Yeah, watermelons and shit. And watermelons. You gotta love it. You love it all day? Yeah, watermelon and shit. And watermelon. You got to love it.

You love it. I did that, though, man. I'm not fulfilled like that, bro. Like, I got to be happy. Right. This is my purpose. It ain't even about the money no more. It's about, like, what?

I know it ain't about the money. Yeah, it's about, like, you know, even for the younger generation coming up, it's like, this is what you do when you 15, 20 years in. Right. You still, you know, you still who you are, but you got a bigger mindset as you lead by example.

And one thing about it, I lived enough in the streets to talk about it forever. Because the game don't change, it's just only the players. You know what I'm saying? Same thing. And I just feel like, for me, you know, I ain't trying to preach or nothing, but I'm like, I got a few people that I respect and I consider mentors, and we don't even communicate on the mentor level. It's'm like, I got a few people that I respect and I consider mentors and we don't even communicate

on the mentor level. It's just like I just talk to them about things, but I love the way they move. So for me, it's just like, I want to show these cats, even 15, 20 years in the game, you still can move. Like, I'm well aware of my surroundings. I can tell you right now how many black t-shirts over there, who got white, you know what I'm saying? I know.

You feel what I'm saying? That's who I am. But at the same time, what keeps me fulfilled is to be able to connect with people from a personal level. Like on the way over here, I had to use the bathroom. I hopped out at the Walgreens on where that was at, you know what I'm saying? Right in the middle of the hood.

Before I could even get to the door, everybody, that's what I do it for. Because they love me because I have values, I have integrity, and I'm a visionary. Like, I have a vision that street people want to have, meaning that you want to come from somewhere, accomplish something, and then take that and accomplish something else. So even when I came in the game, you know, I only started rapping because I already knew what the streets was going to do. But I'm not the best rapper, nor have I ever claimed to be, because if you really know about it, like, music is my talent because I, you know, jumped in the head first and figured it out. But business is my passion.

So I always wanted to do this and this and real estate and that and be able to sit here and have a real conversation about my business. Like, when I say I own half of Atlanta, I mean that shit. You said that on verse. Oh, no, I'm dead-ass serious. Oh, yeah, for sure. City blocks. Ask about me. Yeah, straight mean that shit. You said that on verse. Oh, no, I'm dead ass serious. Oh, yeah, for sure. City blocks. Ask about me.

Yeah, straight up. LLC. Yeah, that's right. All day. Mr. LLC. Mr. LLC. I'm taking a shot for that. I'm taking a shot for anything you say.

I'm sorry. I'm dead serious. You got me into this shit, G. Come on. You coming outside? Come on. Come on, let's do it. Salud.

Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. Come on. Eat. Cheers. Salud, salud Salud, salud, salud So Cheers Let's get to that subject real quick A lot of people were shocked

I don't know if you ever did an interview since this A lot of people were shocked when They announced That you was even doing the verses Right Not only you doing the verses But then who you was doing the versus against.

Right. I think the industry was just like, wow. And then, you know, I remember me calling Swiss and me asking, like, for inside information, like, are y'all sure

this can actually go down? And Swiss is like, they had a private meeting. Yeah. Was that true that y'all had a private meeting prior to that? I wouldn't lie.

I'm going to keep it a book. Yeah, okay. Because it just had to be some understanding. Okay. You know what I'm saying? And there's so much history in that. You know what I'm saying? And for me, I just wanted to relieve that weight upon myself because, you know,

contrary to people's beliefs, it ain't what they think. Right. The whole situation. Right. However. Miscommunication again? That too. Right.

But values and morals, meaning that if I would say what really happened, I got to throw somebody under the bus that I love. Mm-hmm. You feel what I'm saying? Right. Like, I'm not going to do that. So I had to wear that for 15 years. Wow. So I'm just like, yo, at least musically, let's put this shit in a space where that part is at least good.

Right. Just out of respect. And a lot of people thought it was a game, but it is for the culture. It's like, yo, that's unfinished business, but it is what it is. But when it comes to what we do as far as leaders and leadership, it has to be some type of understanding or we're going to be extinct out here, bro.

You know, rap is, I'm like you, why come outside? You know what I'm saying? You stand a better chance going to Iraq. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? In today's world. You feel what I'm saying?

But it has to start somewhere. You know what I'm saying? Again, rapper in today's world you feel what I'm saying but it has to start somewhere you know what I'm saying again I don't want to be the type of person to preach and teach but I feel like that moment just

had to happen people had to see us in the same room and I'll be lying to say that we haven't seen each other you know what I'm saying or

prior to that right and like we both like you know what I'm saying because it's been so long. Right. So many conversations,

so much miscommunication. You feel what I'm saying? And, you know, if, if, if you saw it, you know,

it's for your, you know, how many people, and by the way, like Swiss need to talk to us because that was the highest viewed version. As I can remember

right after that, they showed that shit in the trailer. So yeah, Swiss, you know, we out here, baby. Right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let's be real. Yeah, nah, that's real. Nah, that's real. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, at the end of the day, like, you know, I can't speak

on the real shit. But what I can say is at this point in the game, you know, you don't work this hard to get here. And everybody got shit to lose now. You know what I'm saying? A life that they always dreamed of.

It's just like, let's do the artist shit first. Right. And then everything else falls apart. So let me ask, and you can answer this how you want to. So in this private meeting, was it discussed that, you know, the hill might say something that's going too far, and you can say whatever you want? Was that discussed or that was not discussed?

It was just to see if we could sit in the same room. Okay. So the details wasn't... Kind of, sort of, but no. But if you know, homie, you already know, like, that's just what it is, you know what I'm saying? I kind of felt like it wasn't going to go that way. Right.

Just based off what it was. Because you talking about some shit that happened, you know, so long ago on the streets that you finally getting the chance to be face to face. Right. And it's taking Magic City for one. That happened at Magic City. Magic City for one. Apple for two. Wow. Swiss Beats for three. Timberland for one. That happened at Magic City. Magic City for one. Apple for two. Swiss Beats for three.

Timberland for four. When you say Apple, you're talking about a multi-billion dollar company. Who's taking a risk on hip hop. Stacey Abrams came on and spoke before. She a G for that. Give a shout out for Stacey Abrams. Because that could have went either way. That would have been bad for the campaign.

Because it was crazy because I seen how calm you were. It almost was like and again I'm an outsider as an insider that's looking in from the outside. It almost felt like you expected it.

I don't want to say you expected it, or you kind of knew that it could have went. I'm going to be honest with you, bro. Like, just given the history of who we once were, I know he didn't know what to expect. And I didn't either, because, you know, like, when you're pulling up and, you know, everybody out there with you guys, you know,

semi-machine guns and tactics and, like know, everybody out there with you guys, you know, semi-machine guns and tactics and, like, it's like, you know, it's like putting, you know, shit, Putin in the room with whoever they beefing with in the Ukraine. Because it don't, nine times out of ten, it don't be you.

It be somebody that's with you that's just like, nah. So nobody knew what to expect. But I can tell you this. Again, this is where respect come in and people who do it right. Shout out to Magic. Because Magic is a legend. He's one of the first people, one that owns Magic City.

But he's like our uncle. You don't disrespect Magic. You just do. So you off-ripped. You already coming up. Because he's such a solid guy. You know what I'm saying? And it's just like if we was cousins and we had a disagreement, it's like being with your uncle. Right. You just do. So you're off-ripped. You're already coming up. Because he's such a solid guy. Right. You know what I'm saying? And it's just like, if we was cousins and we had a disagreement, it's like being with

your uncle. Right. I'm going to talk first. You know, if it don't work out after that, you're handling your business, but not here. So it was that. But at the same time, nobody knew what to expect. I mean, I'm going to be honest with you. I was watching the Apple people.

They were sweating, bro. I was watching people that were to be honest with you. I was watching the Apple people. They were sweating. I was watching people that were supposed to be with me, like, sliding over. People supposed to be with him sliding. Nobody knew what side to stand on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nigga, I was home doing the same shit. Like, wait a minute. I don't know what's going on.

But, you know, one time for the music, man, because you know, have it said and done, that's going to be a part of history that everybody don't remember. But it just had to happen, bro. Like, you got to be the first to, you know, when they say to be a true leader, you got to step out there

before anybody else do and take that leap. Nah. You know, because you could have woke up tomorrow and they just be like, I'm good on home just because of that. You know what I'm saying? And then y'all actually did a tour together after that. Yeah. You know, because you could have woke up tomorrow and he's been like, yo, I'm good on home just because of that. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, it is what it is. And then y'all actually

did a tour together after that. Yeah. That's the thing. It's just like... But he apologized after that. Yeah, but I mean,

but, you know, I don't know if this is right to say, but I'm just so you know how I'm on it. You know, he hit me because it was basically my tour.

I was the front runner. I was the first person on the tour. Oh, wow. And he hit me. He was like, yo, you know what I'm saying? You know, I want to was basically my tour. I was a front runner. I was the first person on the tour. Oh, wow. And he hit me. He was like, yo, you know what I'm saying? I want to get on this tour. And, you know, how he take it, I'm going to be honest.

I said, you know what, bro? I never block how you feed your family. It is what it is. I see that. It's after verses. Yeah, I see that. It was dope. But I had to give that call because they wasn't going to let that go on if I said no

I was a front runner I'm like yo bro I ain't going to ever get between you and your money that's fine I think we just got to make a point you know what I'm saying I think and y'all accord you

listen I'm not going to lie you know what I'm saying like we it's in a space Where we can We can coexist Right And I think that's all that matters Like nobody's looking for Yeah nobody's looking for

Right You know Yeah It wasn't like Before that we was hanging out Every day Right You know what I'm saying

So yeah Well make some noise For growth man Right Real shit Real shit So we're gonna bounce around I'm gonna

I'm gonna get back to Ooh therapy For my soul. Okay. Ooh, that's a good one. Yeah, yeah. You said something that we just had the Migos up here. You said something about Coach K. Right.

You and Coach K. Right. What exactly was you saying right there? I'm saying that, again, you know, communication is key. Right. I'm saying that when money is at play and there's not the right type of communication, the lines seem to get blurred.

Right. And if you're not, and this is another thing I want to say, and this is for anybody that's coming up in the game, there's no handbook or no template of how to do this shit. Yep. You give it your all, you risk your life, and then all of a sudden you wake up and you're a multimillionaire with more power than you can grasp.

And if you come from where I'm from, you already got your own trauma. People that have tried to do things to you, fuck over you, all these different things. So I'm dealing with that. I'm quite sure he's dealing with artists that went left. But at the same

time... So he's a part of your management at first? Yeah, at the time. You know, Coach came... The crazy thing is Coach came to the studio because Dallas also a studio in Atlanta. Because back then I was driving a GS400 Lexus. I had that. I was iced out and I was spending cash money to get the studio. And he was hearing about that.

And that's how he came to the studio and started to befriend me. You see what I'm saying? And then over time, he was just like, somebody around that i can be like yo can you take care of this and he was doing it don't get me wrong he's great at what he does but there was a lot of conversations that didn't happen before the fame and the money came and under understanding it's like getting into a marriage and you don't talk about what are the things that are deal breakers

and what things you don't want because now it's a relationship. And for me, I'm a street guy. If you do anything that seems questionable to me, then I just know how to handle it how I handle it. You know what I'm saying?

And again, that ain't with the best communication. So your relationship was with Coach, it wasn't never with Pete? Pete? Yeah. No, I didn't know Pete. Oh, okay. I only knew Pete when him and Coach started rocking.

Okay. So just to get some clarity to it, some things went on. You know what I'm saying? I'm quite sure he would say different, you know what I'm saying, as he should. But I just, you know, I didn't trust a lot of things that, and again, there's no handbook for this. So I don't

even know how it's supposed to go. I'm just understanding what I'm assuming. And so if you're not communicating with somebody and it's not going how you want it to go, of course you're going to be like, yo, like, I ain't rocking like that. And then he probably thought, you know what I'm saying, it ain't going how he wanted it to go.

So if you ain't have no understanding going into this, and then it's like right now we sitting here and we drinking and we having fun and we got a podcast and this shit just blow out of the roof and then somebody just come drop this big bag of money on the table. But we into that. But we ain't talked about. You feel what I'm saying? Because I'm like, yo,

I don't spend millions. Like, I'm not 50%ing or doing, like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't risk my life. And he's like, yo, but I, you know what I'm saying? So it was never no issue

that we couldn't resolve. But I just think when it wasn't talked about pre-money, pre-success. It's like there's a lot of expectations there. And you know how it go with expectations. You know, if it ain't what you want, you feel let down. So, and I still got love for Coach.

Like, I'm happy he's successful. I'm happy he done what he did. I hear people all the time, Jeezy ain't put nobody on, but just look around. Coach is on. Don Kent is on. he's successful. I'm happy he done what he did. I hear people all the time, Jeezy ain't put nobody on, but just look around. Coach is on. Don Cannon's on. Drama's on.

Shirt Red's on. Drummer Boy's on. Justice League is on. These are all people that I dealt with before anybody else. Great list. Let's go.

Def Jam is on. I did a feature for, in my time over there, I did a feature for every artist over there, including Rihanna, Kanye West, you name it. There's nobody I ain't touch over there. It's just feature for every artist over there, including Rihanna, Kanye West, you name it.

There's nobody I ain't touch over there. It's just that I didn't want the money for myself because I'm a hustler, so I'm going to do what I do for me. I don't have to come into this podcast and see how successful it is and try to pull you to the side and go, let me give you this to be a part of it. Because I'm happy for you. It's like I'm happy for them. I'm happy for DJ Drama and all their success and the things that they're doing.

They're my brothers. I wanna see them shine. And it's better that we didn't do business with each other because I love them, but you know, light skin niggas is different, brother. I be telling y'all. I be telling y'all. I be sneaking to the light skin karate class sometimes. We be going on and it be crazy.

I love them and that's why we can come back now with all our success, all the shit that we got going on, and still do something amazing like Snowfall. You know what I'm saying? Because now we in a different space. It ain't out of desperation.

It's for the love. You know what I'm saying? It's for like, yeah. You know, this is... And the reason why I really wanted to do this project with him because I don't want

expectations. I want to do what I want to do. Oh, so drama is... This is Snowfall's drama? Yes. So Snowfall is me and DJ Drama. That's a mixtape, or this is?

I would call it a street album. And it is from my day one. And Don Cannon is the executive producer. And I got all my guys on there that I love. This is your number one Jeezy fan, by the way. Oh, he knows. He from Peru. And he works records, too.

Yeah, yeah. But I got all my producers that I love, you know, the Justice Leagues, the D-Wretches, all those guys that I love. And I just wanted to get in and do something that I wanted, you know, the Justice Leagues, the D-Wretches, all those guys that I love and I just wanted to get in and do something that I wanted to do with no expectations,

meaning that I don't have to put no, you know, no top 10 record on there. I want to talk crazy. You know, S-Curl shit, I'm back talking breezy.

You know what I'm saying? Ice Cube, when you say S-Curl, that's what Ice Cube type shit? Okay. Okay, all right, cool. I'm back talking breezy. These youngies don't know

what the S-Curl is, you know what I mean? Yeah, I keep forgetting that. I'm back to office. These youngies don't know what the S-curl is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, I keep forgetting that. Yeah, you keep forgetting. You got to keep forgetting. Our demographics keep getting younger and younger. Young niggas saying, what's up, Nori? I'm like, Walmart, nigga.

You better not know who I am. Let's not know about people. We out of line. You know, your parents is crazy, you know. But let's move to put on. How did you and Kanye link up for that? Okay, so this is a true story. So Kanye did this record that was on the recession

because he's a fan, he knows. So there's a record on recession called I Got Money With Me and T.I. that I put Kanye on. I send the record to Kanye. It's like a week and a half before the album had to be turned in. Right? And he sends the record back, a totally different

record. He sends it back with the If you remember the record, I'm like, so now I got to turn it in, but his verse sounds like a totally different song. So I go, yeah, I can't use it. I just got to keep me and Tip on it.

And he was like, all right, cool. So about six months go by. Ye called me out of nowhere. What are you doing? He said, can I talk to you for a minute? I was like, yeah, for sure. He goes, you remember that song you did, that I did for you?

I was like, yeah. He's like, I want to keep it. I said, yeah, whatever. He said, who produced it? And I told him that Toont produced it. He asked me for Toont's number. I gave him Toont's number. So that's what Big Brother,

all those records he had on that album came from Toont. So I put Kanye with Toont. Wow, dope. So you say you exactly produced that. Yeah, yeah, see what I'm saying? See what I'm saying? I put people on.

I put people on. I put people on. A.M.R. taking it and producing it. So I put him with Toont, and he called me. After the fact, he said, yo, do you mind if I keep your ad-libs on? This is why I know he's genius. Yeah.

He said, do you mind if I keep your ad-libs on? I'm in passing. I'm not even thinking. I'm like, whatever. Yeah, yeah. So the song comes out. Huge. Like, I'm not even expecting this.

But my ad-libs are in the song. So everybody listens to the song on the radio waiting for my verse to come in. So everybody's calling me like, yo, there's this song out and it sounds like you're about to rap but you don't rap. I was like, yo, that's Kanye's record. So anyway, long story short, I go to London to do a show.

I go on an 8. I think Kanye goes on a 10. The first record he does in front of 80,000 people is, wait till I get my money right. I'm watching 80,000 people. It's crazy. I look at, because Jay-Z and Beyonce there, and I look at him, I said, I think I fucked up. He's like, what do you mean? I said, I gave Kanye that record.

I didn't know. And he was like, yeah, it's crazy. You don't fuck up now. You know what I'm saying? So now I'm like, damn. And at this time, now I need a hit. You know what I'm saying? I need one.

So I never forget. I was trying to call Kanye. I had this record called Put On. And I was trying to call Kanye. And I couldn't get him on the phone. And I called L.A. Reid. He's like, I'm going to call Kanye I had this record call put on and I was trying to call Kanye and I couldn't get him on the phone and I called L.A. Reid and he's like I'm going to call him for you he called me

with Kanye in the phone he said yo Kanye Jesus want to talk to you he got on the phone this is when his mother passed and he hadn't done any records since then and we talked

we had a real conversation he said yo I'm going to do it for you so I sent him I told him what put on me in the south in Atlanta he was like oh word and then I told him what put on me in the South, in Atlanta. He was like, a word. And then I sent him the song and then he called me back on his own line.

He was rapping me the verse, but you know, I'm like, go put it down, go do it in the studio now. Like, don't rap it on the phone. And he went and put it down and he sent it to me and I'm getting ready to go out of town to do some shows for the weekend. And I got all my homies on the tour bus.

So it's like 20 of us on the tour bus. A lot of choppers. A lot of choppers. And I gave it to V103, to Greg Street, right? But I didn't tell nobody Kanye was on the song. They heard the song in the studio, but nobody knew Kanye was on the song. So we on the tour bus and and we headed out of town, and Greg Street brings the song back like a hundred times.

I mean, it was crazy. And when everybody heard Kanye West, I just, I watched their eyes, because, you know, you would think, like, I knew right then it was hit. And I'll never forget, bro, I was like, we back on. You know what I'm saying? We back in the game, and I remember L.A. calling me was like, we back on. You know what I'm saying?

Like, we back in the game. And I remember L.A. calling me like, man, you did it again. This is crazy. And number one, then Drake hopped on the remix. We did that on BET. And the rest was history, man. And to be honest with you, I feel like that's probably one of Kanye's best verses ever. It was so crazy that Jay-Z got on it, the remix, if you remember. Yeah.

Yeah. So, yeah. So he had a record with Drake, Kanye. That's wild. And Drake got on I Do with Andre 3000 and Jay-Z. And people don't believe that. I say that. You're going to hear that on Snowfall.

Right. I got more records with Jay-Z than Biggie Smalls. Let's be clear. You feel me? Let's be clear. You feel me? Let's be clear. Holy shit. You know what I'm saying? Let's be clear.

Holy shit. That is crazy. Oh my God. Yeah. Oh my God. So who's your inspiration on bars? You're saying you didn't

come in as an artist. But you obviously got bars. By the way, you said you got Hov on a new Snowfall too? No, no, no, no. I ain't gonna say that. Oh, okay.

He said he got more records than me. Oh, okay, okay. I got more records with Jay-Z than he does with Biggie Smalls. Right. For sure. Okay, but you gonna give us somebody that's on Snowfall?

Hey, man, let me finish my fucking question, goddammit. My bad. Totally forgot. Tell me, you inspired by barsmiths. You have to be, because you doing bars. You saying you not, you didn't comemiths. You have to be because you're doing bars. You're saying you're not you didn't come in as an artist like that

but you emceeing. Right. I think it's because of my love for music. Every morning before school I listen to all Master P, Brad, A-Bar, MJG but my favorite was Tupac. And why my favorite was Tupac and still is to this

day is because he stood for something. He had values but my favorite was Tupac. And why my favorite was Tupac and still is to this day is because he stood for something. Right. He had values, he had morals, he had integrity and I had never seen that before because my uncles

are still $20 out your socks. You know what I'm saying? People that I respect. I got them same uncles. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? They was taken from me. You know what I'm saying?

And I couldn't get any information out of them. So how I learned how to survive and navigate through the streets, and I want to say that because even with these guys coming up, you know, 90% of well, 10% of it is music. 90% of it is surviving

and survival and navigating through what's going on. And the reason why I was able to navigate through a lot of things was because I listened to Tupac as if he was, like, that was my Bible. That's how I knew able to navigate through a lot of things was because I listened to Tupac as if he was like, that was my Bible. Right, like the gospel. That's how I knew how to handle certain situations. And it was embedded in me.

And it was just like, you know, he was a revolutionary before I knew what that was. Like he actually had, he stood for something. And he would take those risks when everybody around me was so used to how they was living that they didn't want to try to live any better. And I was like, well, shit, I'm just going to go take some risks. So my Bible at that time, you know, no disrespect to the big homie,

was every Tupac out. I would get by myself. I've never heard no disrespect to the big homie. Right. Never. Never. I ain't never heard that. That was the only thing.

That was the only thing. You said you respect you, God. on the air. Never. Never. I ain't never heard that. That was the only thing that made some noise. You go off. But I listen to Tupac every morning before school. Wow. And when I made my decision to drop out of school in the sixth grade,

I did that knowing that I had to make a way for my mom and my sister. But I did that knowing that Tupac did what he had to do. You dropped out of sixth grade? Yeah. I dropped out of sixth grade? Yeah. I dropped out of seventh.

Yeah, sixth grade. I got my GED when I was locked up. I got one on you. You got one? I got one. I got one on you. I heard what you said

when you received your award. You said, I don't know if I can read. It's real shit. It's real shit. I got lawyers, nigga. He said, I don't know if I can read.

You got a question that far. I'm not sure. Yeah, yeah. It's a question mark out there. He's lawyers, nigga. I don't know if I can write it. I'm not sure. It's a question mark out there. He's trying, though. He's trying. Oh, my God, man. This is so great, man. Okay. Soul Survivor featuring Akon.

Akon. Okay. Shout out to Boo-Khan. But by the way, do you see Akon new cut? We got to talk about this. His new haircut, his barber don't like him, man. Like, what's wrong with him? My brother's African, man. You got to give him a pass.

He's doing different over there. I respect that. I know. We're about to come over here. That's our first question, man. That's your first question. It's like somebody put a bowl on your shit and you just cut around it like, you got to get your life together. You got way too much money.

And I think that might be Beijing patch. I think that's what's going on. Like I said when I first came, I don't want to speak on nobody else's business. I'll fuck with you, G. But you know this is true.

You know this one. Hold on, I'm taking a shot for that. Well, let me know. What part are you taking the shot for? For the patch. Let me know what he says because I want to know too. Yeah, Well, let me know. What part are you taking a shot for? For the patch. Let me know what he says

because I want to know too. Yeah, yeah, he coming on. That's what's crazy. We had you coming on and then as we have you coming on, they said, um, um,

Akon, I just kept saying, Akon, Young G. I'm going to tell you that though. Okay, boom. Okay, so boom. Um, God bless the dead, Shakir Stewart. Yeah, God bless the dead. Shakir Stewart.

Yeah, God bless the dead. Which was my A&R and confidant at the time. Yes. And Boo Khan. Boo Khan is Akon's brother. Yes. Right? The nigga that knocked out Shug.

I don't know. Yeah. I mean, if he did, yeah. Allegedly. But Boo called me, and I was at Passworks working Right Literally working And I was doing

Both of my jobs I was recording And working Recording And he said Yo I got this CD For you that Akon sent And he brought it over there

And this was My CDs was Akon already got Locked up out already Yeah Okay So he bring me the CD And it's six songs on it

So I put it in I listened to all six songs, and the last one was Soul Survivor. And I just started touring around with it because I had a party that night at Visions. And I toured around with it. I put the first verse on it. And, you know, I'm just kicking this smoke weed,

doing what I do. And then Shakir pulls up because he's coming to the party with us. Shakir was the vice president of Def Jam at the time. And he said, what you working on? I played him Soul Survivor. He's like, yo, this is it. I'm just like, but at the time, I had like Trap or Die, so I wasn't even thinking like that.

And I thought it was a crossover record, and I didn't want to do one of those. So we go to the party, we turn up, we drink, we come back, and Shakir goes, why don't you figure this is the record that you was working on with Akon? Because I didn't have nothing to work on. So I knocked the record out, it come back, and Shakira goes, why don't you figure this is the record that you was working on with Akon? Because I didn't have nothing to work on. So I knocked the record out. It was done, right?

He heard it. He was like, yo, this is crazy. I didn't think nothing of it. Fast forward, there's an intern at Patchwork. We'll talk about the lawsuit later because I had my business. Patchwork is the studio, correct? Yeah, Patchwork is the studio. There's an intern there that wanted me to use his beats for Thug Motivation 101.

I didn't use his beats. I didn't know about masters back then. So I was just recording and leaving all my tapes and all my stuff at the studio. He gets all my songs, puts his beat on the front. That's how we know he did it. He puts his beat first. Like, it's just instrumental. And then my whole album how we know he did it. He puts his beat first, like he's just instrumental, and then my whole album.

And then he leaks it. So Thug Motivation got leaked like four months before it was supposed to come out. With the wrong beats, though? No, with his instrumental at the top of it. With all the songs.

Oh! Every song you heard on Thug Motivation was on this leak. That's crazy. So now I'm like halfway in, halfway out the streets. My man called me he's like yo

your album is leaked and i think i know who did it so i jump in my porsche truck drive down to the studio i got my ak this is this is no lie so they got him pinned up at the studio and i get there and my man like yo we're gonna just you know rough him up i said no i'm about to you know what i'm saying so because now i'm thinking i gotta go back to the streets i already went cold turkey i don't tell people they don't even owe me the money that they to. You know what I'm saying? Because now I'm thinking I got to go back to the streets. I already went cold turkey. I done told people they don't even owe me the money that they owe me. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So now this is it.

You know what I'm saying? On top of the fact that right before I turned to Al Min, I tore my vocal cords, so I didn't even know if I was going to be able to talk again. Because I had to have surgery, so I didn't even know if my voice was going to be the same. You see what I'm saying? That's crazy. And we'll talk about that too. So I get there,

you know, I draw down on him, he's slick, pull it in up, you know what I'm saying? Beating the brakes off of him, I got to go through this whole lawsuit where I had to pay him. And again, the big homie. The best thing that ever happened to me. Because at that time, it was the biggest bootlegging ring

going on in the world in Atlanta. Like, it was bootlegging everything you could think. Like, it was the biggest bootlegging ring going on in the world in Atlanta. Like, it was bootlegging everything you could think. Like, it was busting bootlegs. So me and Slick Puller and a few of my homies rode around for at least three weeks with three vans, a lot of choppers, and ran up in every bootleg trying to take the CD back. But what I didn't realize was— Was there Africans in the bootleggers? Yeah, absolutely. One thousand percent. Well, he know how. Right. But what I didn't realize was... Was there Africans in the bootleggers? Yeah, absolutely.

1000%. Well, he know how. Right. And what I didn't realize was that the music was already out and it was spreading to Detroit, D.C., Chicago. Actually doing you good. It was doing me good. And I didn't know that. And it wasn't until I went to do the birthday bash and they played bottom of the map and 20,000 people lost the first promo wave and then I wanted to go with trap or dies my single right by now

soul survivor is huge in the streets like it's crazy some some shit I never expected and how I knew is I'm going to a show and I think I'm going to Dallas so I'm in the airport and I'm walking through the airport I hear a motherfucker say Akon and Young Jeezy I'm like yo what the fuck and then it would be like you know people from Africa walking up to me in the airport like Jeezy we love you man you know shout out to you and Akon I'm like what the because I didn't never know Akon was that big in Africa I knew Akon come from Atlanta. Yeah. I didn't, I'd never been to Africa. He likes you in Africa. No, no, he's, it's true. It's true.

Oh, I got that. Look at him. You know, and Def Jam called me, and Shakur, and Shakur called me, he said, yo, this is your single.

Right. And I was sitting there, and I was like, you know what would be crazy? If I could shoot the video like paid in full. And I was like, yo, anybody know Cameron? And they was like, what? Called Cameron up and I was like, you know, it would be crazy if I could shoot the video like paid in full. And I was like, yo, anybody know Cameron? And they was like, what?

Called Cameron up. He was like, yo, Peace King. I'll be there. So I called Cameron, a couple of those guys from there. And I remember going out there to do the video shoot. You had Beans in there too, right? Beans Segal, yes. You just didn't have me.

You forgot me. Yeah, you forgot me. He was probably doing something he had no business doing. It's cool, cool. And everybody came from Meach to Jay-Z, and it was like the biggest thing ever that I've been a part of. I heard Jay-Z actually came to that video. Yeah, he came to the video shoot, came on my trailer, and he sat there.

And I'm going to say it now because I don't know if he's ever heard it, but, you know, shout out to Khan because that record changed my life. Right. Like, it took me from being a ghetto trap superstar to being world-renowned. International. You know what I'm saying? And I had no idea

that one song can do that. So shout out to Comcast. Let's make some noise for A-Karl. We're going to get his toupee right and that's it. We're going to make

his toupee. Yeah, that's what it's called. He's my friend. I can talk about it. And A-Karl always offered me a condo in Africa. I thought you said you's called. He's my friend. I can talk about it. Akon always offered me a car to go to Africa. I thought you said you got one. Nah, in my mind, I do. I'm going to just go.

I'm going to just go. You come over. Are you in? Yeah, I went to South Africa. Okay, boom. My president is black. Yes. My president right now is whack.

Yeah. I'm going to be honest. Yeah, I'm going to be honest, though. He came and sat down and talked to me. I'll never forget it. We had a meeting with all the leaders of Atlanta. Hold on. Time out, Tom.

He just flossed. He just flossed on us. No, no. I'm being honest. He came to see how he wanted to talk to me. And he came, and we did this thing with all the leaders. You can see the pictures. They out there.

And he wanted me to sit right beside him. And he looked at me the whole time. He just asked questions. But I'm knowing he knew that I had something to do with his man getting in there. Right. And that's why he did it. But. Oh, you're talking about now he.

Yes. This was like before he won. Oh, we talking about Trump. Trump was whack too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a whole other subject. Yeah. But I'm talking about Biden.

He talking about Biden right now. Yeah, Biden about to die. That's just because he. Relax, bro. Come on, dog. I. He's talking about Biden right now. Yeah, Biden about to die. That's just because he's like... You're lying, bro. Come on, dog. You're lying. I went too far. I went too far.

They're saying that, too. I'm just being honest. They're going to blame you if something happens, man. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, time out. You said that on the BET stage. Yo, listen, listen.

All right, yo. We were on the BET stage, GZ. They're like, tell Nori he can say whatever he wants. So I said, are you sure? I said, yeah. Actually, they didn't say that to you. No, they didn't.

They said, be myself. Be yourself. Not say whatever. Not say whatever you want. Do everything. Do everything. Yo, Jesus, it's the same thing. Nah, nah, nah.

It's the same thing. Do everything. They don't know Nori. We know Nori. They say, be yourself. I go. I said, no, no. Don't tell him that.

I go, all right, man. They go, I go, yo, listen, did you just see the footage of Biden? He about to die. That's got nothing to do with the skit. Because Biden, they said, to the right, Mr. President. He clearly made a left. He clearly went the other way. I said, this is about to die.

They said, do not tell nobody what you say, what you want to say. Did they edit it out? Oh, yeah, they edited a lot of it. They cut everything. They cut everything. They cut everything. They said, oh, okay, all right, that's the difference between. But I'm going to just be honest. Is that weed?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that.

That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. You want to use the machine? Let's get the whole room high. Let's get the machine, goddammit. Yeah, get that machine.

Get that machine. Goddamn. Gigi, we upgraded since you've been here. Oh, my God. You know? I don't know if it's upgraded. I'm a street guy, man. I get a little paranoid when I see that much of anything. No, no, no, no.

It's legal. It's legal. By a lot, Gigi. Is it legal? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's medically legal. By a lot, Gigi. You was, like, very early on in Drink Champs.

You came back again. Right. And this is their third time. You've been through different iterations of Drink Champs. You are Drink Champs alumni. Yeah. No, but I'm going to be honest with you, though, man. Like, me and Nori again. Right. And this is their third time. You've been through different iterations of string champs. You are string champs alumni. Yeah. No, but I'm going to be honest with you, though, man. Like, me and Nori talk.

Yes. Time to time. Yes. I'm really just, I'm proud of you guys, man. Let's take a shot. I'm sorry. Let's take a shot. When you guys got the coach at, it's like, this is a stop.

This is a must stop. Thank you. And as I see you guys getting outside of just music, I respect it more. You know what I'm saying? I respect it more. Salud. Salud. Salud. And that cigar smell right, too. Goddamn, several hundred dollars, goddamn it. Get your life right. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

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That's Mama Juana good. That Mama Juana made in a tub in Kendall. Make some noise for that my Moana. It's a clean tub. Don't ever drink that. Don't ever drink that, Jeezy. Listen, trust me.

He's my friend. I love him. But he's crazy. Okay, I love it. Yeah. Oh, man. That was one of those things, just taking a chance on it. I remember getting the beat from DJ Toby at his studio in the hood, and I went over there one night by myself, and I sat in the room with him and one of his producers for like

four hours and listened to every beat they had, and the last beat they played was that beat. And I got this thing, like this six cents, because I don't necessarily write music, I see it. I can hear a beat and see what it's supposed to be, so I know what it's going to be when it's done. Like you're scoring a movie and shit? Yeah, you just see it.

Right. You know what I'm saying? I just get music differently. And I was like, yo, wait till I come back with this. And I did that record and I played it for 2B and he went crazy. And I knew what it was because when I played it for L.A. Read, he was just like, yo, this is a single. But going back to My President is Black, I did that record five months before he won,

and I put it on the album before he won because I had faith that he was going to win. I remember, yeah. And not only that, I just felt like at the time we needed a change, so it was a lot of things that I did behind the scenes to really help him win, in my opinion, like culture you helped him win right yeah but you know i don't know if i told this story before tell it again god damn he invited me to he invited me to a correspondence then this time he is barack obama barack obama invited me to a correspondence then

in new york right i got there how many times they searched? They didn't even let me in. Oh, shit. They told me I couldn't come in. I'm watching Trey Songz walking, Oprah, this one, that one, Kevin Liles, and I'm just sitting there. But you were invited. Yes. I got a Tom Ford suit on that I spent way too much money for. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm embarrassed.

So I get on the plane, I go back to Atlanta on the same night, longest flight ever, because in my mind, I'm like, yo, what the fuck happened? I said all these things. And that's what really reminded me that I just never, ever, ever lose touch with my people in my core because they appointed me. And I'm not always going to be accepted in those likes because I come from the have nots and the people that are demonized. However, I'm in london i'm in europe on tour and i get up and my mom keep calling me i'm like what's going on she's like

did you hear what the president said about you so the correspondents dinner with him and trump had those words yeah he said my first term i went with al green my second term i'm going with young zz so that was his way of giving me a little shout out because I forgot that my best friend used to be Meech and I used to be

you know what I'm saying so I can't I can't just stand beside you and um you know and co-sign you so shout out to

Barack Obama for that and he still owes me a conversation by the way so I'm going to just put that on out there because I've seen a lot of people at the White House

my man Rick Ross had a leg monitor I'm going to just put that on out there. Oh yeah, let's do it on Drink Champs. I've seen a lot of people at the White House. My man Rick Ross had a leg monitor. I'm like, what the hell is going on? He did. I got a clean slate. I'm saying, what the fuck? Looking clean. I heard this shit rung off in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That'd be hard.

Obama? Right. What's his name they call him? What's his nickname? Barry. Barry, bring your ass to drink camps. Yeah. I'm fucking around. I'm fucking around.

I'm fucking with this Biden and Barry shit. If you pull up, it just makes you act. Yeah, yeah. That'd be hard. No, no. You guys hosting that day. Yeah. Why do you want me to open the door?

You had like a political show. Like you was wearing turtlenecks and all that. Yeah. Like you was interviewing. I was like, I said, Jeezy. You know what? You had on loaf political show. Like you was wearing turtlenecks and all that. Yeah. Like you was interviewing. I was like, I said, Jeezy, you had on loafers. Yeah. I said, this nigga taking it there. Yeah, I did.

So what was it? What was it? What was you? You was doing your black Chukka Tosser? I just think I got. Chukka Tosser. You know what I mean? You know what it is?

You know what it is? Don't know? Like when you get knowledge from other people and you just start to understand your position in it, I'm going to go all in. Like, I'm not a halfway person. Right. But when I felt like I was helping the culture and helping the people, like, I'm going to do that. You know what I'm saying? Whether you're riding or walking, I'm with you.

Right. Whatever I can do. But then I started to get in it and realize, you know, that politics is like the craziest thing ever. Because you never... Oh, it's dirtier. Yeah, it's worse than rap. Is it worse than a drug game? Yeah.

Okay, I respect that. Yeah, because, I mean, other than death in prison, but nobody's ever telling you the truth. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, no matter where you stand, it's not right. Backroom deals. You know what I'm saying?

It's just not right. And I still support people here and there but i don't try to go i don't do the loafers no more for them i'm not doing that but you know it hurt my feelings right because my people trust me right you know i'm saying like when i'm going to these hoods and knocking door to door to get people to vote and doing all these things, like, they trust me. They're like, yo, geez. You're like, yeah, I'm going to vote.

So it's just like, you know, even with Biden, like, it was just tricky for me because I just know all the things he promised. But then I have to remind myself that there's no one man that can help everybody. I can't even help everybody around me. So it's just like you're always setting yourself up for failure because you have expectations. You know what I'm saying? And that one man in that White House isn't really controlling. No, he's not even controlling the people. Right.

You know, it's more so budgets and policies. He didn't even control the way he walk. This is true. I mean, it's a different thing, but yeah. He might need some of them Jeezy loafers. He needs their own medical center. No, but no one's seen this footage where they're like, you know, Mr. President to the right. And he clearly just goes. There's mad footage of him trying to shake on medical center. No one's seen this footage where they're like, Mr. President to the right and he clearly just goes.

There's mad footage of him trying to shake hands with nobody. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's mad footage. What? Yeah.

He goes like this. Oh, so I'm not bugging. No, you're not. I mean, clearly. It's not me. He's wilding at this point. Oh, yeah. But it would be ill to see Kamala Harris. Like, you know not. I mean, clearly. It's not me. He's wilding at this point. But it would be ill to see Kamala Harris.

You know what I mean? I'm not saying I'm wishing a nigga to go or not. Seeing her be the first. But seeing her be the first. I'm like, ah, shit. The one person I do feel like is genuine, though, if I'm honest, is like, I don't know why, but just every time I've ever been in their presence or just even had something for her team, it's Michelle Obama I don't know why, but just every time I've ever been in the presence or just even had something for her team

it's Michelle Obama. She seemed genuine. You want her to run for president? Yeah. I feel like she's like, she get it. Right. Yeah, she like, you know what I mean? It's just like, you know, when you see a woman that's really like,

you know, and by the way, like, for mine, it's, I give Barack's procks too, because's really like, you know, and by the way, like, for mine is, I give Barack's props too, because it's like, it's hard to be the first black president and the most powerful man in the world. Like, what did he have to go through to get to that? Not even that. You don't have no scandal. Right.

Ain't no scandal. And props to Michelle for that as well. Yeah. He probably knows she don't play, but yeah. And that's probably why she's so real, because she wouldn't run in that field, because she knows she don't want to be a part of that. Part of that, yeah. I mean, I ain't going to lie, though. I kind of peeped it, because my man wasn't there looking young.

He came out, he had gray hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what's that on nobody. Yeah, yeah. But at the end of the day, like, if you kind of look at the history, you know, you exclude Barack Obama only because he handled himself presidentially and as a high value black man. Right.

Who's really, who really done it? Like, who really done it for us? Like, who do you feel has been the best president? I would say when Reagan was in, they say the streets was cracking. He let it through. But that was illegally. As a kid, legally. They say he let it through.

Yeah, he let everything through. He let everything through. But then he let everything through. He let everything through. Yeah, you know what? But then he did start the war on drugs, too. Yeah, that was Sifu Yala that threw you off. And again, I was told one thing, you know what I'm saying? We can go back and forth, but I was told one thing very young. Never talk to people about religion and politics.

Right. You know what I mean? And for me, I just- Social media blew that up and fucked everybody up. Yeah, but it's like- I learned that in Sleepless, the movies. Yeah. What is it called? And for me, I just- Social media blew that up and fucked everybody up. Yeah, but it's like- I learned that in Sleepless, the movies. Yeah. What is it called?

Sleepless, the movies? The movie? Sleepless. Sleepers. You don't remember the movies? I learned that by being locked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the most drama.

The first place you don't talk about- Talk about religion and politics. Religion and politics. You cannot, you know. All right. With Atlanta, right, though, I know this is a political question. I feel like Atlanta should be the first city where, like, Killer Mike is the fucking governor.

Jeezy's the fucking mayor. T.I.'s the city council. I don't want that smoke. Don't. No, not the mayor. But contrary to people's beliefs, Killer Mike is one of the most intelligent black men I've ever talked to. Killer Mike is dope.

He's an encyclopedia. He's like, he knows his shit. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And he's solid. We know that, but he knows anything

historical about any government. I vote for Killer Mike. Yeah, he's consistent with his ideas and thoughts. That's who he is. Right. But at the end of the day, we don't try everything else, so.

I think so. I feel like. He should run after Stacey Abrams. Yeah, I feel like Killer Mike could be the mayor of Atlanta. You know how dope is that? To be like, the mayor of Atlanta, Killer Mike. Holy shit. I'm going out there.

I'm getting an apartment just to vote. Right, right, right. Just be there. Yeah. I love Atlanta, though. Atlanta's the only place where you can come from anywhere and be anybody you want to be. There's so much opportunity there. And I think that's what makes it special. You know what I'm saying? So I wouldn't be

surprised if one day we look up and it's something like that. For sure. But you ain't in the policy. Nah, man. I'm too honest, man. I'm going to tell the truth. You know what I'm saying?'m saying it ain't gonna work you know what i'm saying like i can't lie you know i'm always be transparent so and i wouldn't even want that burden i feel like what i do um in real life is a little bit of that because i could touch those people when a lot of people can't and they trust me. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Because of my integrity and my values and my morals. Right. But also being Jeezy, like who I am, I can get anything done in my city.

Right. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? And I'd rather have that because I don't need no Grammys and no awards or none of that but as long as I got respect

and I can move around my city and people treat me like as such, as somebody that really put in work and somebody that's out here really thriving and striving to show people what you can do, then that's all I need. I think being a politician would make you totally, like, you have to choose between the money and the people. I don't ever want to be in that situation because I'm always going to choose the people. Well, do you see this like new black preachers?

These niggas is cool. Oh, yeah, they, yeah. They got to be burning. We eating everything. They dress better than us. Yeah, yeah. This nigga got rose voices. He had nothing in his closet.

He's in a promo run. He's in a press run. Yeah, he's in a press run. Like, it's crazy. Didn't he have a press conference? He had a press conference and all that. Yeah.

Word. Like, this shit is different now. Didn't he have a press conference? He had a press conference and all that. Yeah. Word. Yeah. Like, this shit is different now. Yeah. But, like, the music, geez, I'm not going to lie to you. I didn't, when I'm sitting around with the young homies and they breaking down me to this new music of what's going on.

Right. And these guys basically telling on they self. Like, if you notice, when we was making music like that, there was no names being mentioned. There was no blocks. There was, like, we you notice, when we was making music like that, there was no names being mentioned. There was no blocks. It was like, we're saying pretty much your imagination, you take the rest of it. They're not like that right now.

Well, let me say this, because in the beginning, I went through a lot of that, too. Because I was, I'm not a carpenter. I'm not a mechanic. I'm not a roofer. I can't tell you nothing about those things, but I am a hustler, and I come from the streets. You know what I'm not a carpenter I'm not a mechanic I'm not a roofer I can't tell you nothing about those things but I am a hustler and I come from the streets

you know what I'm saying but when I was telling people what I was experiencing what I was going through it kind of felt like dry snitching you see what I'm saying it wasn't

cause original gangster rap would have been like they say it's a cautionary tale well when you say hit the brakes hit the lights voila they go to them bricks

you know some people still have stash it's's a cautionary tale. Well, when you say hit the brakes, hit the lights, voila, they go to them brakes. You know, some people still have compartments like that. You know what I'm saying? But for me, it was my truth. And then, you know, I think a lot of the things that I was saying, the guys who were already up, they felt it. But a lot of the guys who was trying to come up, like, damn, like basically you're giving them the blueprint. But it was about survival for me. You know what I'm saying?

That's all I really knew. You know what I'm saying? So it wasn't nothing else I can really say. Like, I couldn't, what I was going to talk about. Like, I'm not, you know. That's funny as hell because my first album, The War Report, after that people had to come to me and say, you know you could imagine some of this shit. Like, you know, I didn't have to use everything. That was an error. You didn't imagine it, really.

I didn't. I mean, no one even told me what you knew about at all. I swear to God, patchwork, studio, the same thing. I never forget. I'm working on

Thug Motivation. T.I. comes to the studio. I'm sitting in the studio. He'll tell you if you ever tell him your accent. You know, I'm doing my Thug thing.

I probably got about 2.5 in the booth sitting with me. I'm sitting, I got the machine going and everything. And I'll never forget, he came in there where I was and he looked in, he's like, yo, I'll let you for a second. So he took me in the hallway, we walked in the bathroom. I'm like, what are we walking in the bathroom for? He's like,

I just want to talk to you. You know how tip is, you look under the stars and everything. Like it's G14 Classified. G14 Classified. Right, right. He goes, yo, you know you can't do both, right? Right.

And I'm like, what do you mean? He's like, you can't rap and do what you're doing because, and he said, and you're talented.

You're going to blow at some point. Right. And if you continue to do what you're doing, you know what I'm saying, I don't know how it's going to work out for you.

Right. And I looked at him I said well shit but don't you do both because you like you the rubber band man it's like hell no you know I left that alone a long time ago and for me it was like that was a real wake-up call you know I'm saying because I remember shortly after that you know I was having a lot of nightmares about you know just trying to make it and this one last thing and then I got caught up and you know I was losing a lot of weight because at the time Thug Motivation was coming out,

you know, everybody started getting indicted and going to prison, like, especially everybody I was hanging out with. So it was like a real dark time. And I'm drinking, I'm smoking. My mind ain't clear, you know what I'm saying? So I'm doing, I'm having a lot of mistakes. And I just remember T.I.'s voice in my head saying that.

Can't do both. And I remember I had this, I had like two next-tail phones, these chirps. It was like the phones. You know what I'm saying? And I rolled down the street one day and just threw them out the window. And I was done. Man, that's like my academic stuff. I was like done.

When I would see people in the street, they're like, yo, nigga, how are you money coming? I'm like, no, you don't owe me nothing. It's a wrap. Keep that. Move the fuck on. You know what I'm saying? Live your life. I'm going, no, you don't mean nothing. It's a rap. Keep that. Move the fuck on. You know what I'm saying? Live your life. I'm going to do this.

And it was so funny to people that I was really trying to be a rapper. You wouldn't know how many homies laughed at me, thought it was funny. And I'll never forget when I got that first deal and I got that first, when them boys came on the radio and then I was warming up. Free them boys. Yeah, I was, yeah, I was warming up and everything was happening. It was God, man, because there, it wasn't me. You know what I'm saying?

I wasn't doing anything different. I was just sticking to my guns and doing what I love, but it was all starting to happen. And the minute everybody started getting indicted, it's when I started blowing up and it was like the craziest thing ever, bro. It was just like, I was like, damn, I'm supposed to be here. You know what I'm saying? You know, shout out to that, man.

Shout out to the big homie. Tell your Akineli story. Let me ask you something. No, no, no. This is something even iller. I want to take a shot to it, too. But G Herbo just dropped an album called Survivors of the Morse. Yes.

And it's something that's very very real because we all deal with that because I'm sure you was a part of a bunch of different people and you're one of the 30 that probably made it or one of the 100 that probably made it and me I just won an award, right? That's right. Don't forget that. Yeah.

And it was weird to me because I got a lot of calls. I got a lot of unnecessary calls that I never got before. And it started to dawn on me that it's like, damn, some of these calls I actually take because I have survivor's remorse.

I'm like, damn, this guy would never be in my position. This guy, so if this guy asks me for something. Show him love, yeah. Yeah, I'm doing it, but I'm like, damn, this is too much for me. Right, right. Have you ever dealt with that? Oh, no, man.

That's my life story. Yo, this is the old face. You got stressful. Yo, yo, this old face. Take a shot for that, come on. You should have seen your own face. You were in solos, solos. Explain it.

I mean, at one point, I had my whole neighborhood living in my house. Jesus. My first mansion I had, my whole neighborhood lived there. It was an open door. 60, 70 people in there at a time. You know what I'm saying? So you was loose. Jesus, yes.

Yeah, I was, but I just felt like when you from the hood, you real. You wanted to. You got to take care of everybody, put everybody on. That was my mindset. That was your responsibility. You felt that responsibility. Right, yes. Yeah, I was, but I just felt like when you from the hood, you real. You wanted to. You got to take care of everybody, put everybody on. That was my mindset. That was your responsibility. You felt that responsibility. And then, you know, as you start paying the lawsuits and things are happening, things are coming up missing and nobody's taking responsibility, everything's on you. You know what I'm saying?

You're just like, wow. You know what I'm saying? You buying people cars. You buying watches. People pissing on your toilet. All that shit. You you know i'm saying you're just like wow you know i'm saying you buying people cars you're buying watches people pissing on your toilet all that shit you know you coming in and it's just like you still feel alone right you know i'm saying and then you know i have a gift of being able to visualize where i need to be and what's the best way to get there from A to Z without compromising my integrity. Right. And every time I took a step towards that,

I would see how people around me would react. Right. You know what I'm saying? And it's just like, as the money started coming in, you know what money now is like you like Everyone change everyone change like almost like you like food because you can't go buy this for yourself without making sure You know I'm saying like

So it would be that way and then it just went on for so long like years and years and years And I'm like, yo, what's going on? It was the last time That I got locked up in L.A. on tour. I remember this tour. I just had my 8-year-old daughter, and I got locked up on the Wiz Khalifa tour on a murder they tried to put on me that I had. They found the gun in your tour bus or something like that. Yeah, they found several.

Okay, yeah. But none of them had my fingerprints on them. Right. So now I'm in the L.A. County jail and ain't nobody taking care of my people. You know what I'm saying? I got ten people with me. It's a million dollar bill for everybody

that's with me. They wanted to let you go. I think Def Jam wanted to just bail you out. They came to get me out, but I'm like, these people that are with me, they're not criminals. These are my staff. So, of course, I don't want to tell nobody how to get in my paper. But I don't want to leave them here. So I stayed in there until I was able to work out.

Work everyone out. Right, and get everybody out the way we came in. But what I noticed is when I came out, I was mad at the world. I was depressed. I came out I was mad at the world I was depressed I was angry and I was really angry at the people that was with me

because nobody did anything for the people I love and that's when I made the decision that which was the hardest decision in my life I said I'm going to walk alone and that's what you talk about

you saw and ever since then it's just like it's me of course I got people around me that I love. Right. You know, my staff

and people that work with me and the people that I employ because we had the same vision. But as far as just keeping people around to save face, I can't do that anymore. Right. Because that brings

too much bad energy. And it's just like, I don't need bad energy with what I'm trying to do with my life. It's just like, you don't want that. And I feel G Herbo because he's a kid from Chicago that's going through some real things.

You can tell that he's beyond a star. Yeah. He's only like 23 or 24, something like that. So if he holds on to that. But he's 34. Right. Because his knowledge is crazy. And when I started being around people that, you know, that really wanted to see me win

or connect me with people that I really couldn't get in the room with, that's when I started to see, like, oh, there are people out there in the world. They're good people. You know what I'm saying? They're good people. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I don't want to be nowhere in the situation where I'm in. I got to sleep with two glocks.

You know what I'm saying? Because the homies downstairs, I don't know what I'm like, you know what I mean? Feel a way about this or that. And I love my homeboys, but it homies downstairs, I don't know what I'm like, you know what I mean? Feel a way about this or that. And I love my homeboys, but it's just like, we didn't have the same vision. We didn't want to be the same place. My palette is different. Yeah.

I'm like, you know, Sushi and sushi and like, you spit some cigars, you know what I mean? Caviar, yeah. Yeah, I'm mad with you, I'm mad with you, okay. So it's just like, now you weird. Right, yeah. I like different music now. Right. You know what I mean? Caviar, yeah. I'm there with you. I'm there with you. Okay. So it's just like, now you weird. Right, yeah. I like different music now. Right.

You know what I'm saying? I'm like getting up in the morning. Start listening to IZ Brothers for no reason. You got a worldview now. Right. It's just like, yo, he's bugging.

You know what I'm saying? So now I'm eating healthy. I'm taking care of myself. I lost 60 pounds. Right. You know, where's all the gangsters in the front row now?

Women throwing panties at me. I ain't going back. Right. You know what I'm saying? I'm in the front row now? Women throwing panties at me. I ain't going back. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, yo, this is it. And it wasn't until, so imagine everything, everybody at work I put out until the recession is when I told myself that

you're still free, you're still alive, you're meant to be here, you're meant to be a star. And that's when I started kind of shedding the excess. But then when I got to what happened in the Bay, it's when I really said, I'm not even going to try to save face anymore. You know, I love y'all

and I can take care of people from a distance. You don't have to be with me every day for you to feel the love because we're not on the same path. You know what I'm saying? And that was the realization. And I don't disrespect anyone because I love everyone,

but that's where my peace began. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I can see it. Yeah, that's my peace. And if people love you, they want you to grow. Right.

Yeah, but then sometimes people are scared that if you grow, you're going to leave them behind. You're going to leave them behind, yep. You know what I'm saying? And that's like the most dangerous. That's why Bank Row Fresh ain't here. All right, God bless. You know what I'm saying? That's why Vaughn ain't here. God behind. You know what I'm saying? And that's like the most dangerous. That's why Bank Row Fresh ain't here. You know what I'm saying? That's why Vaughn ain't here.

You know what I'm saying? That's why Adobe ain't here. That's why Tupac's not here. You know what I'm saying? That's why Big is not here. Because somebody was like, no, you can't go. You know what I'm saying? And you really just think, oh man, come on, that's why Nipsey Hussle ain't here. Think about that.

Nipsey Hussle ain't do nothing but good. He stayed in the hood. Right. Invested in his own hood and his own slot. There was one person in there that felt like, I don't want to see you go any further.

Right. Tried to lead by example. Right. And that was that. But we spoke about our President is Black and what we did touch on is that

Nas was on that record. Yes. But at one point, Nas had released an album called Hip Hop Is Dead. At this time, Atlanta's at the top of the motherfucking game. So I knew what Nas was insinuating.

He was saying, you know, the ethics of hip hop. But Atlanta being so at the forefront of the game, it almost felt like Atlanta this shot was directed towards Atlanta. And you was directed towards Atlanta. Right. And you was vocal about that. Or the South as a whole.

Well, two stories. I met Nas in 112 bathroom. We used to use the bathroom. I was in there with all my chains. You got a lot of bathroom stories. Yeah. Wait, Brian 112? No, no.

112, the club. Oh, 112. Okay. It's historical. And I met him in the bathroom. You know, we both used the bathroom. We go to the thing, wash my hands. You watch his hands.

I'm like, yo, I'm Jeezy. He's like, yeah, hey, what's up? But I kind of felt like, you know, we both use the bathroom, we go to the thing, wash my hands, you watch his hands, I'm like, yo, I'm Jeezy. He's like, yeah, hey, what's up? But I kind of felt like, you know what I'm saying, like he didn't give me what I wanted, you know what I'm saying? So I was like, oh, you don't know me, so I'm going to use that for motivation. Right, right. So when I finally got on, I'm on Def Jam on the same, I think it was on Def Jam at the time, I'm on the same label you on, and I'm popping.

Right. I'm on the same label you on, and I'm popping. So when I heard Hip Hop Is Dead, I immediately felt like, you know, like, you're basically saying because I'm on now. You're personal. Right. So they baited me in. They was like, what do you think about what he said? I was like, you know, Nas ain't never bust his gut. I'm just going in. But I don't even know him.

You know what I'm saying? And the craziest thing is there's a lot of people in this game that I don't have respect for because it's all a facade. It's all about the money. It's all about the clout. It's all about what they want you to believe.

But the more conversations Nas and I had, I feel like he's hip-hop's elite. Right. Because he is the big homie. But how does this conversation start from you disagreeing with his statement? Because how he handled me.

Okay. He called me. He said, yo, what's up, young? He called me. Off of that. Oh, so you go crazy on the radio. He called my phone. I was ready to go to war by then.

I was ready for him to say something crazy. I just couldn't wait. He said, what's up, King? He said, peace, King. I said, yo, what's going on? He's like, I can understand why you feel the way you feel. And he just kind of walked me through what his thought process was. And I felt so crazy on that phone. You know what I'm saying? By the time we got out, I was like, yeah, you know I love your music. You know what I'm saying? We ought to do a song together one day, you know? And he was like, yeah, no, whatever you want. And when I called him for my President is Black, he said, I got you.

He sent that shit back in like two days. And pulled up in Atlanta in the hood by himself with a driver to shoot the video. And everything that I ever done in life that was an accomplishment for me it's like a top five people that'll give me a call one is hove the other one is nas he always he just he hit me the other day it's like peace king that's it you know what I'm saying or peace king I see that's it and and to me that's what leading by leadership is about, because if he would have got on my level and matched my energy, who knows what that would be. It would have been all turmoil. Right.

It would have been bad. But not even just it being all bad. He would instill something in me to make me be like that next young cat say something about me. Yeah. Yeah, it's the wrong battery in your battery. Right. So now I'm like, oh, yeah. Maybe you not jumping, him not jumping at you forced you not to jump at like Freddie

Gibbs or somebody else. Because now I understand the frustration. Right. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, we all want to be on. We all want to be important.

We all want to be significant. We all know we talented. I told Freddie Gibbs that day one. Right. Bro, you don't even need me. Right. Actually, I'm in your way. Right.

I'm going to be honest with you. I'm in your way. Right. I got too many issues out here. I got bad things that I need to iron out because I haven't been the coolest guy with a lot of these execs. I'm giving them business. So I'm still

going off of my past of where I done checked these people and they never forgot. Now they're in positions of power. They're like, no, I'm not giving him the deal. It's like I'm hurting you. Wow. I'm in your way. You got it.

And he did that. You know, look at it. God damn it. Right. So let me ask. You got a record with Kendrick and J. Cole. Kendrick and J. Cole? Yes.

You don't even remember? I got it. I got the number. Oh, Kendrick is on there. J. Cole is on there. Okay, so Kendrick is my man. Shout out to Kendrick. He's my guy. Kendrick's ill.

J. Cole's my guy as well. I shot J. Cole a text, sent him the record, and he loved it. He did it. I was trying to get Kendrick to rap on the record, but he said he didn't feel it like that, so he'll do the hook. Or a bridge or something, what he did. And he did it. I was trying to get Kendrick to rap on the record, but he said he didn't feel it like that, so he'll do the hook. And I went, well, bridge or something, what he did.

And he did it, and I put it together. And I was like, wow. You know, because again, you know, for me. This is the two hottest young boys. Yeah. Now you the OG. Right. How did you get that, though?

I mean, I think just out of respect. You know you get that though? I mean, I just, I think out of, just out of respect. You know what I'm saying? I just think out of respect and people seeing your vision as well. You know what I'm saying? Like, I remember Kendrick hit me about one of his records early on. You see Kendrick's new dance that he did on stage? Yeah. Music, man.

Make you feel, you know. I felt it, too. Right. Like Kendrick live, man. Right, right, right. Because you can live. This is a big up. It's just I can't move like that.

Right, right, right. He killed it. Right. Man, he felt like a South Settle. You could put reggaeton music right there. It fits right in. He's looking like a rockettos. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I just, I think it's out of respect. I mean, even Andre 3000, when I reached out to him for I do, you know, Andre don't really do features like that. Andre is, right. And he was just like,

yo, I'll send it. You can't pay Andre. Huh? You can't pay Andre. Yeah, it's not about money for Andre. No, and even when he came out to do my 10 year anniversary

show that he came out, it was like seeing a unicorn. And I remember, the craziest thing I remember was- A pink unicorn. And I remember, the craziest thing I remember was... A pink unicorn. Right, pink unicorn. I remember seeing him, I was twice. So for the song, I'm coming downstairs, Mr. C's in LA,

the hotel, and he's at the elevator. I'm like, Dre, what's going on? We sit down and talk 15 minutes. I got this record. He says, send it to me. Knocks it out. This is like, fast forward four years later. I'm at the same hotel. I'm in the lobby. He's coming down the out. This is like fast forward four years later. I'm at the same hotel. I'm in the lobby.

He's coming down the elevator. I'm like, yo. Do he got a guitar? No, he had a flute, I think. The flute, that's what he's rocking with the flute. And he said, I said, yo Dre, I'm doing this 10 year anniversary next week. I'd love for you to come out.

He said, give me your number, I'll call you. He called me the day before. He's like, I talked to my homies there. They said I should do this. I said, yo, you got to come. I had Ye. I had Ye. I had Dre.

The list goes on. It was crazy. And he's like, yeah, I'll do it. He came. You said Ye and Drake? No, Ye and Dre. Andre 3000. OK, OK.

So my bad. Ye, Dre, and Boys in the Hood. It was crazy. So on my 10-year anniversary, he came. He rocked. When he walked out, bro, it. So, yeah, Dre and, you know, Boyz n the Hood. It was crazy. So, on my 10-year anniversary, he came. He rocked. When he walked out, bro, it's like, I think people, it took people at least a couple minutes to realize who he was. Just to get the ball going.

Yeah. He's important, man. And it was crazy because he wanted a mic with the cord. You know what I'm saying? Like, he wanted the orchestra. He wanted to make sure there's no bullshit happens with that mic. But that happened to me twice in my career, though. Because when I was on a Blueprint 3 tour with Jay, we had Madison Square Garden, right?

And all you heard on the radio was about Lil Wayne going to jail for his gun charge. That's all you heard, right? So I already had Drake. And I had Nicki Minaj to come out on my set, right? So I'm coming into the London Hotel in New York. And guess who's on the elevator? Wayne. And I said, damn, man,

I thought you had to turn yourself in today. He said, you'll never believe this. The courthouse flooded, so I got to turn myself in tomorrow. I said, you got to come out tonight on my set. He said, bet, I'm there. So I bring Nicki Minaj out during my set. I know, because I remember Jay peeking behind the curtains, like, what the hell? Because me, Jay, I'm there. So I bring Nicki Minaj out doing my set. I know because I remember Jay peeking behind the curtains like, what the hell?

Because me and Jay on tour, but I come out in the middle of Jay's set and do my set. Then he comes back out. I remember Jay peeking behind the curtains like, what the hell is going on out there? So I brought out Nicki Minaj first. And then I brought out Drake. And then me and I brought Wayne out. And we did I'm Going In with Drake. And when Wayne came out there, man, the whole building was just like, it was the craziest shit I've ever seen.

Like as far as shows. And I was just like, damn. But the whole thing was everybody in New York thought he was in jail. You see what I'm saying? So the elevator's important. If you see somebody come out of the elevator, you know, go ahead and make that. You know what I mean? Right, right.

Or the bathroom. Right. No you see somebody come out of the elevator, you know, go ahead and make that. You know what I mean? Right, right. Or the bathroom. Right. No, not the bathroom. Terrible. But you got, look at the names you're listing. It's like anybody's top five. Right. You got Wayne, Kendrick, Andre, Jay-Z.

Is there anybody you want to work with that you didn't work with? I would love to work with Pac before he passed. Yeah. But the only other person I would want to work with is Sade. Sade. Yeah. Sade. Sade. Yeah. Sade would be crazy. Maxwell was one, but one day I was in New York,

and I was just hanging out, and me and Maxwell got real cool. He just came and pulled up on me in the studio, and we did this record just out of the blue. We recorded a song, and it's on one of my drives. I've been looking for it for like six years. Oh, you didn't put it out? No. So I'm telling him when I find that drive,

I'm putting it out. But me and Maxwell got a record. Okay. He was one of the ones I wanted to do something with. Shade. Did y'all record the verses

in the tub? No. Together? Fuck, bro. Fuck no. I just feel like Maxwell lays verses in the tub. No, no, no.

I don't do that. Like him. Actually, he laid his verses in the control room. He wanted a mic with a cord. No, no, no. I don't do that. Like him. Actually, he laid his verses in the control room. He wanted a mic with a cord. Right. And he's sitting there like he's performing.

Okay, that's hard. So, yeah. I knew it was going to be something different. Yeah, yeah. Ain't no tubs over here, bro. It's not regular. That's far away from a tub.

I mean this in all due respect, Maxwell. I mean this in all due respect. But, yeah, no, I had an amazing run. Like, I feel like, and I'm just getting started, I feel like that.

Even when I think about all the stuff me and Hov have like, and I'm just getting started, I feel like that. Even when I think about all the stuff me and Hov had done. And it's not just because it's top tier. It's just because we got things that, you know, people don't have. Like, meaning, like, we got history in our records. And anybody that I've done a record with, you know, you take Kanye, you take Hov, you take, I mean, you name it. You know what I'm saying? Dirk. Nah.

Drake. Nas. It was always a point where we pushed the envelope a little bit and made, you know, just something that was legendary. So I'm very happy about that because, again, I didn't come into the game to be a rapper. That's the crazy part. Right.

I was trying to be a CEO that's the crazy part right i was trying to be a ceo and now you're at the top right yeah and it's been times where you know i've been in the studio with people and i'm just like yo how in the hell you know what i'm saying am i going and that's my best work because i've been with jay you know doing seen it all you know you see jay-z in the studio they ain't you know what i'm saying that's different even ross yeah yeah yeah but let's go to better believe it featuring bussy oh man we just had bussy on let's not even talk about the song just the experience the experience yeah boost is one of the kind by the way. Yes, yes. We noticed. Right.

And I really respect Boosie's perspective because that's what our aunties and uncles taught us. He's never forgot that though. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like he understands that's what it is. And probably because he's so- You know what Boosie is to me? I'm going to say this wrong,

but y'all going to mean what I said. Boosie reminds me of the fly. You know, the thing that when you go to your grandma's house, she got the thing coming from the ceiling to get the flies. The fly catcher? And the leather. Sofa. The plastic on the sofa.

It's old school morals. No, listen. First of all, and I'm not saying because I'm not preaching violence or whatever. When I hung out, Boosie called me.

When Boosie first, well, two things that happened with Boosie. I was with him when he first got out, the last time he got out. And then he called me when we did Better Believe It

to come to Baton Rouge. Actually, he called me before that. I was headed to Texas or something, and he was doing a giveaway for some kids. And I told my tour bus driver to turn the bus around.

We drove Baton Rouge. Get my shot. And I went out there with him and gave away bicycles and all that. So that's how I knew how embedded he was in the community. The community, right. That's who he is. He got a great heart. But when we did Better Believe It, I came down, and I stayed in this hotel in Baton Rouge.

If you know anything about Baton Rouge, I'm like, I'm a five-star guy. I'm like, oh, shit. Like, this is great. And the room service, like, what we doing? And I go there and we do the video. And this is the first time I ever seen extendo clips. Every little guy that was with Boosie had them hanging out of his pocket. And I'm just like, what is that?

You know what I'm saying? Like, what's going on? And he pulled it out. I was like, oh, shit. You know what I'm saying? So I was just like, so that's the first thing I noticed about him. He don't got no security. It's just those little guys that be with him. But then what I

immediately noticed was the type of respect that he had where he's from. Because Boobies is like a god in Baton Rouge bro. I'm talking about he's presidential. And we go do the video. Video goes well.

So now I'm in Baton Rouge. There's no flight leaving out. So I got to stay tonight. So what are you going to do when you're in Baton Rouge? He's like, let's go to the club. I'm like, yeah, Bat, come pick me up. So they come pick me up about 10, 15 cars deep. So I'm like, we're going to the club.

I got my jewels on, my smell good. You know what I'm saying? I think we about to go hit it. We pull up in front of a house. There's a million cars at this house. You went to a house party in Baton Rouge? This is the club. Sounds dangerous.

Sounds like fun. So we walk in this house. We walk in this house. This is no lie. We walk in this house and it is cracking. You walk through the house, then you get to the backyard, and that's where the club's at. So it's in the backyard in a fence. Got a picture booth, a bar.

Everybody out there. It's crazy. Oh, it's a full-fledged club. It's a house, though. Yes, it's a house, though. It's a club. It's like you're going to a house in a neighborhood, but that's the club.

And I'm just sitting around like, oh, shit. Like, this is the club. So we went in there, we lit up, we had a great time. And then I'll never forget, I told Boosie when he got in trouble, I was like, yo bro, you got to get out of Baton Rouge because really you're too

big. You know what I'm saying? And I think the last time he got in trouble, we talked, and I just remember him moving to Atlanta. So I'm just really happy that he got himself out of the situation because he was what it was in my eyes. I don't even know if he see it the same way. He's too powerful there.

Well, he said it, though. He said most rappers get murdered in they city. That's the reason why he got out of his own way. But I don't even think that. I think with law enforcement, he was too powerful. And they wasn't going to let that go on for long. Because the last time I talked to Boosie, he was like, he wrote me a letter, and he said they was trying to give him the death penalty.

So imagine you reading the letter, and you're sitting there, and it's just like, yo, this is what I'm going through, and they're giving me the death penalty. And I'm just like, damn. You know what I'm saying? So shout out to Boosie for making it out of that. Let's take this whole shot. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Boosie for getting back on whole shot. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Boosie for getting back on his feet.

You know what I'm saying? Doing it how the real ones do it. Yeah. Man, that was beautiful, man. Okay, shit, man. Welcome back. Yeah. Yes, sir.

When did you, what was that record? What was your mind frame? I mean, it was like I did it for, I did it, and then I put it on the mixtape as well, and it blew from there as well. It was me, him, and Webby. And I just always knew that Bun B and Pimp C had a real love for them, you know what I'm saying?

And they had this whole Chitlin' Circuit thing on lock where they was like, it was booked like every day of the week. And even when they came through town, it was just like every hood, every ghetto, they was out. You know what I'm saying? We called Bootsy to— Pimp seemed crazy on Atlanta at one point, though.

Yeah, he did. Yeah. He said it wasn't even the same time zone. Right. Yeah, I didn't ever understand. Yeah, I didn't understand that either. I knew Bun. Right.

I didn't know Pimp until we got out. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, I knew Bun. I didn't know Pimp until we got out. And when we did get through with me,

him and Jay-Z. Okay. Right. And then everything was worked out. I mean, it wasn't, I didn't have an issue. Right, right.

Right, you know what I'm saying? I just think a lot of the things that he was saying, people kind of thought he was talking about me. Right. But I didn't know him, so I didn't get that. It couldn't have been about you. Right, I didn't get that. Well, you know what, Jeezy, man?

I'm going to be honest. You gave us everything, man. I would like to take one more shot with you. Come on, let's do it, baby. I would like to take one more shot. Hard nod. The hard nod. The hard nod. The hard nod.

Let's do it. Only Nori. Yes. Yo, nah, Jeezy, man. I'm going to be honest, man. You're a legend. You're a person that needs, deserves to be. Where the fuck am I drinking at?

Oh, shit. My bad. Watermelon, baby. Yeah, that watermelon that needs to be respected. You paid your dues. Played the game right. You did everything you're supposed to do. Still in it.

We want to always salute you. We want to always respect you. That's what our show is about. Now everybody else want to give out flowers. Now everybody else want to give out flowers. We've been doing that. We've been doing that. And because your want to give out flowers. Now everybody else want to give flowers. We've been doing that. We've been doing that. And because

your story is beautiful, man. Your story is a real one. Your story needs to be repeated. So when is the official Snowfall? Snowfall 10-21, October 21st. Back in my bag. Let's expect nothing but greatness, man. I'm really happy about this because, again,

it's just like me and drama right and he's hosting this or this is no he's hosting it he's hosting it okay bringing it back

so you're gonna hear that drama that talk and don't forget check us on Patreon oh yeah patreon.com for his last drink champs

oh yeah behind the scenes let me just say something GZ when you do a non-political podcast we wanna talk to you about it. Say less.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We want to help you out. Say less. You know what I'm saying? We want to help you. What's up, my brother? Yo, man, thank y'all. Your whole crew was very professional, all of them.

They came, made sure they set up. Made sure the product was there. I love your whole crew, even down to the security. We wanted to make sure you know where to walk. I love all that. I love all that. Because you know why? This is my last question.

Do you move different now that all of these rappers are disappearing? I wouldn't say move different. What I mean is that I move how I know how to move because I know nobody's exempt. Right. I'm never going to let nobody desensitize me because of my position. Right. I know what it is. It's been that way since I jumped off the porch.

Ain't nothing changed. You know what I'm saying? Just a little more active. But I thank God for being through the things that I went through on a street level because I feel like that's what got me to where I'm at as far as you know morals and and not just flipping and doing crazy things of course everybody got they you know they stuff but what I'm saying is like I think that's the best gift I ever received is survival you what I'm saying?

And what you're saying, it makes a lot of sense because when you met me, I was living for survival. You know what I'm saying? Or out of survival. And the reason why I'm so zen because now I'm living out of love. Meaning that I employ people. You know what I'm saying?

They get a chance to live out their dreams. You know what I'm saying? I've accumulated things that you don't have I ain't want to take no more shots you want to take more shots come on it's different than living out of survival and living out of love because it's like

I love what I do I love my people I love what I do. I love my people. I love, you know, what I represent. You know, I love getting better. I love evolving. I love giving gain. You know what I'm saying? I love surviving.

So it's just like, you know, it's a different world now, meaning that, you know, when I said sky's the limit, you know, that was half the truth. Ain't no limit. It ain't. You know what I'm saying? Just a few. That's it. You know what when I said sky's the limit, you know, that was half the truth. Ain't no limit. It ain't. You know what I'm saying? Just a view. That's it. You know what I'm saying? And now I see that more than ever.

So it's just like, but, however, I don't forget what I'm a child of and where I come from, the cloth that I am, because that's what keeps me safe. And that's why I'm able to go in these places and be around these people, because I was in Detroit two days ago. Felt like I was home, you know what I'm saying, on the block. You know, shout out to 4-1, you know, Finko Ave, Stradmore.

But at the same time, my head on the swivel just like theirs. You know what I'm saying? Because if the police pull up, guess what? We all together. They don't care that I'm Jeezy. You know what I'm saying? Right.

But at the same time i love that because that's the one thing that i have when i walk in the room and do business with these execs that they don't have right they don't got that they don't got that natural instinct they don't got that know how to survive they don't got that off the top of the head come up with a solution like like that ain't nothing to even think about. They don't got that fearless, just fearless drive. And it's just like when I sit in the room with them and we're doing these deals, they doing a deal to get money.

You know what I'm saying? That's cool. I'm doing these deals based off legacy. What I'm going to leave behind and what's the sample? How can I boss somebody up that's part of my team? How can I make you the COO now?

How can I make you the CEO now? You know what I'm saying? How can I make you the COO now? How can I make you the CEO now? You know what I'm saying? How can I make you an A&R now? How can I make you an artist now? You know what I'm saying? And by the time this come out, I want to shout out to the newest member of the family, Haiti Baby. We just signed him to CTE. We just signed him to Def Jam.

So shout out to Haiti Baby. You know what I'm saying? Superstar. He's going. Shout out to Nod. Everything we got going. Shout out to Agency 99. And let me just tell you, Jeezy, you know, I'm going to take this too. Look, I'm going to take it down.

So I'm going to tell you something. This is how Pharrell ended his interview. So I'm going to kind of end yours with this way. Pharrell knows me for a long time. I mean, me and him made history together. So Pharrell looks and says, where's your wife at? And then he looks and he goes, his transition came from you. His transition came from you.

He said, my transition came from her. Right. And what I'm trying to say is is I want to big up your wife. I want to big up. For sure. I know they don't want to get into family issues. Right, right, right. But as a married street dude, I want to salute you because I got to give your wife her props.

For sure. Because she got a lot to do with that as well. For sure. Shout out to Miss Jenkins. Goddamn, goddamn. And that's it. Come on, let's wrap this motherfucker up. I got 15 more questions to Miss Jenkins. Goddamn, goddamn. And that's it. Come on, let's wrap this motherfucker up.

I got 15 more questions. Take a picture, take a picture. Let's do it, let's do it. Come on, let's take a picture and a promo.

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