Drink Champs - Episode 339 w/ Derek Jeter
Episode Date: November 4, 2022N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with Mr. November himself, Derek Jeter! Captain Clutch joins us as he shares stories of his Hall of Fame career. The 5x ...World Series Champion spent his entire 20 year career with the NY Yankees. Jeter shares stories of the 1998 Yankees, his relationship with A-Rod, being inducted into the HOF and much much more! Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!! Make some noise for Derek Jeter!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more: 🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreaga *Check out our Culture Cards NFT project by joining The Culture Cards Discord: 👇* https://discord.gg/theculturecards See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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especial.
When I tell you
some of the best years of my life
is when this man was on
the field playing and
leading the leader of
men, El Capitan.
I watched his documentary three times.
The first two times I watched it,
I hit a friend of mine's, and she said she cried.
So I said, damn, I need to see where she had to cry at.
And I realized she wasn't from New York.
So a lot of people who wasn't from New York
and played against us, they did cry.
The man led us. He is a class act. wasn't from New York. So a lot of people who wasn't from New York and played against us, they did cry.
The man led us.
He is a class act.
Five-time champion.
His accolades just keep going and going and going.
So we are right now
in the legendary Carbones.
By the way,
people can't even get a reservation.
And we're here filming.
Crazy.
The captain. It's crazy. Let's make some noise And we're here filming. Crazy. The captain.
It's crazy.
Let's make some noise for the one.
Boom.
Cheers.
Cheers.
When I would watch the documentary,
I'll tell you what was the craziest part of the documentary to me,
for me.
Thank you.
Was when you got drafted, right?
And in your first couple of years in the minor leagues,
what was that?
What is those? Yeah, in the minor leagues. You weren't doing good. Terrible. Right, right? And then your first couple of years in the minor leagues, what is that? What is those?
Yeah, in the minor leagues.
You weren't doing good.
Terrible.
Right, right.
So what made them keep you?
They didn't have a choice.
They gave me a big signing bonus.
Right, that's right.
From high school, right?
You get drafted high with a signing bonus.
They're going to give you an opportunity to make some mistakes.
First of all, before we start, thanks for having me.
What do you mean?
Because I keep running into Nori around town.
I've been waiting for six years
to get invited on this show.
Six years.
And finally now,
after months and months of
begging, we finally allowed that.
No, no, no.
We like that, though.
We're going to use that as promo.
There you go.
But back to that.
Yeah, so back to that.
It was so amazing because I didn't hear these years.
I had only heard of these years when I watched the documentary.
But when they were reflecting on it, I was like, this is so amazing of a story.
Because how you was the number one in high school, and then you went there, and then it was like, that first couple of years, it wasn't working out for you.
I think, yeah.
First of all, I think one thing you have to realize is anyone that's had success in any profession has failed.
Right.
They failed.
Everyone has failed.
You don't hear about it.
Right.
Like, you too have failed.
You didn't just show up, and now you got drink chance.
Right, right.
Exactly.
You got bumps along the way.
Bumps in the road.
Part of the process. It's how do you stop it from being a, right, exactly. You got bumps along the way. Bumps in the road. Part of the process.
It's how do you stop it from being a roadblock?
Right.
You know what I mean?
So I'm coming from Kalamazoo, Michigan.
Kalamazoo.
And no disrespect to Kalamazoo.
It's just a small town.
Yes.
You know, not known, I guess, for professional baseball players.
And now you go from playing in Kalamazoo to now you're playing against the best players in the world.
Right.
And I was completely overmatched, man.
Wow.
Completely overmatched.
Wow.
But, I mean, that's when you got to bounce back man you got to learn from your failures and and you
got to try to look at the bright side and and um but yeah thanks for starting this off by
having me go down memory lane of how when I was bad I appreciate it
it's a redemption story it's the the fruition that your parents even had.
Like, I've seen your baby pictures of you with a Yankee uniform on.
Like, it was almost spooky to see that because it was like, this guy is exactly who he's made to be.
Looking back, yeah.
But, I mean, one thing is I give my parents a lot of credit because you need the people closest to you reinforcing your dreams, right?
Because anytime you have a far-fetched dream
in other people's minds,
everyone's telling you you're never going to achieve that.
That's just what you're going to hear.
It's nice.
You can't achieve it.
You can't achieve it.
It's like in a documentary.
It's like, who the fuck are you to tell me
that I can't achieve my dream, you know?
And my parents, who are obviously closest to me,
said I could do it as well.
So you need the support.
And they supported
me from day one. It's the only thing I ever wanted to be.
Right. And always
shortstop. Always shortstop. My dad was
a shortstop. You know, I played shortstop. I was trying
to be you. I didn't make it though. I heard about you growing up.
I heard about you growing up. It didn't go too great for me.
Happy belated birthday, too.
Oh, God, they're making my birthday.
I couldn't.
Thanks for the invite to the party.
I mean, I got three girls, five and under.
Yes, that's fine.
So if you have a birthday lunch, I'll get to the birthday lunch.
See, he's like me.
It's tough to make the late ones now.
Oh, my God.
So we're bouncing around a little bit.
But 1998, best year of my life.
I'm platinum, Yankees, World Series.
Can you describe that year?
Oh, man.
Where's my hat?
Where's my hat?
1998, man.
You know, you have a good year in baseball.
First of all, it's 162 games.
You have a good year, you win 100 games.
And people say, yeah, great team.
What did y'all go that year?
We were 125 and 50.
Wow.
Yeah, counting the postseason, we're at 75 games over 500.
So, I mean, it's just one of those years where I,
look, it's tough to compare eras, you know,
whether it's in music or whether it's in sports.
But I would put that team up there against any team in the history of the game.
When we Googled it, they named that the best Yankee team ever.
Good.
He's like, that's right.
I didn't know that.
Good, good.
Okay.
Like I said, we're bouncing around a little bit.
And I'm bringing my brother in
in a little while.
But all of my friends,
I went and bought a Derek Jeter jersey.
They're laughing at me already.
I went and bought it.
And when I,
I, for some reason,
maybe I've been in Florida too long.
I didn't know that
if I had your name on the back of it,
it's not official.
They would literally not let me come in here with this jersey.
Right, right.
Because let's hear it from you.
To be official, you can't have your name on it.
You can't have a name.
No, Yankees are one of the few teams that don't have their names on the jersey.
Actually, I'll give you a little history.
Yankees are the first team to have numbers on their uniforms.
And it used to go by the order in the lineup, which is why Ruth was three, Garrett was four. So we're the first team to have numbers
on the uniforms. And the reason why y'all don't have the name- It's all about the team. It's not about
individuals. It's all about the team. Ultimately, that's what matters. I mean, it's winning in
anything, in life, it's winning. I mean, I have problems. You probably saw it in the documentary.
I mean, I have competition problems.
You say you want to race down the street.
I'm going to try to beat you racing down the street.
And if I don't beat you, we're going to go out.
We're going to do it again.
You know what I mean?
It's just, so ultimately, that's what you play for is to win.
Personal accolades are great.
I think they come along with it.
But, you know, you don't have a team success.
Yeah, that's crazy because my friends were exactly right.
And I'm sitting back and I'm like, why did I didn't know that?
And they're all like, you're a bozo.
You should have known that.
And I literally, they would not let me let you sign that jersey.
I said, I want to get him to sign it.
And wow, I'm glad I got a good team.
I'm glad. Thank you good team. I'm glad.
Thank you, Diego, Deuce, and Young, really.
They had an intervention with me.
I felt like I was on drugs.
It's necessary sometimes.
Interventions are necessary.
Is there anything like the Yankees fans?
Because didn't the Yankees, what did they just win just now?
The L.E.
Yeah.
Is that the best fans in the world?
By far, it's not even close.
You know, the thing with the Yankee fans is they pay attention every single day.
You mentioned 1998.
We had a rough patch towards the end of the year.
First of all, we won a division in April.
Right.
It was over.
We just played five months that we you know, we already won.
And we had a rough patch
at the end
and you're walking down
the streets
and, you know,
fans yelling,
you better turn it around.
You guys are going to blow it.
I'm like,
damn,
we have 25 games right now.
But they watch
every single day.
They expect excellence.
They do not
take excuses.
Right.
I mean,
you got to stand
in front of your locker
and you have to answer questions when things
don't go well.
I always tell my teammates, if you want to
escape the locker room, do it when you have
a good game.
I find out a lot about people, how they
handle adversity. New Yorkers want to
see, first of all,
I don't know if you necessarily say they want to see you fail,
but they do.
They want to see how you're going to bounce back from failure.
See you tested.
Yes, yes, yes.
Take your wins with your Ws.
Yankee fans are the best, man.
Okay.
Do we still hate Boston fans?
I wouldn't say it's a hatred.
Okay.
I got to be careful, man.
I still walk around.
He's outside.
I've said it before.
After they won in 2004,
they softened a little bit.
My parents didn't even go back to Fenway Park
because they were brutal.
And I'm sure Red Sox players
would tell you the same thing in New York,
that the fans were brutal.
But they softened a little bit.
And so now I have no issues with Boston fans.
Plus, we won more than they did, so...
Would you like some Opus One?
No, I'm going to let you handle that.
Okay, okay.
I'll let you handle that.
Okay, we just want to make sure you're comfortable.
I got one.
That's Deleon.
Mm.
Mm-hmm.
Cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers.
Holy shit.
Thanks for having me.
Salud, salud.
Thanks for having me.
Look, I got to be nervous over here.
Salud.
Thanks for having me.
And you got straight vodka.
No, man. Straight Ciroc. Straight C having me. And you got straight vodka. No, man.
Straight Ciroc.
Straight Ciroc.
And let me put it out there.
It's right now.
I don't want to.
It's noon.
I haven't eaten a thing.
Yes, we haven't.
So I'm not responsible for anything I say from this point forward.
We're all in the same boat here.
We're going to have to edit a lot.
Is this the greatness?
Greatness wins.
Yes.
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I got, hold on.
I got some boxes for you, too.
Okay, we got some gifts.
That's what I'm talking about.
I got some gifts I brought for you guys.
We've been getting gifts lately.
Man.
Now, so just to give you a little background, I've been wearing athletic apparel, obviously,
your whole entire career.
And I've had great, great relationships.
But I think any time—
Wow.
One more.
This is for you. because you were signed to
jordan one more right i was and i've had great experiences with all the brands that i've been
involved with but i think anytime that you're passionate about something thank you thank you
very much you think of ways you would do things differently and maybe even ways you do things
better in your opinion so we think we are.
Yeah, so I got you guys a box of apparel.
And the name of the company is Greatness One.
We just launched a couple months ago.
And it's built on performance.
Performance first.
I think that's what's most important.
Comfort and consistency and quality and fit.
And extremely excited about this.
And why don't you guys have it? Yeah, nice.
Thank you.
I encourage everyone to go to greatnesswins.com
and you order.
Just one thing, try it out.
I promise you, you're going to circle back
because, you know, the product is as good as it gets.
And I'm excited about it.
We have a women's line coming out next year.
The great, incomparable Misty Copeland.
Wow.
She's helping us lead that design for the women's line.
And I'm excited about it.
I hope everyone else is excited about it as well.
Is this you selling direct to the consumer?
Yeah, direct to consumer.
Yeah, so go on greatnesswins.com.
And, you know, we're starting off slowly.
Yeah.
Starting off slowly.
You learn from your customers, your fan base, what they want to see more of, what they like, what they don't like.
We're passionate about it, man, because, you know, everyone has tools to success.
And my tools in my career outside of a baseball and a bat, which don't really change too much, is the apparel that you use.
So I wanted to give you guys something.
Tell me what you think.
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And it's kind of like our Patreon.
We're going direct to a consumer, too.
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Check us out.
So it's like I'm born and raised New Yorker, and I live in Miami now for the past 15 years or so.
You're a New Yorker that now lives in Miami.
Well, how was the Marlins experience?
How was that?
Because you were an owner. You went from being a player to an owner. I think you was the Marlins experience? How was that? Because you were an owner.
You went from being a player to an owner.
I think you was like the only one in baseball history.
And they also say a black owner.
Was it pressure?
How was it?
Because Miami fans are a little different.
I'll give you an example.
I first came to a Heat game.
And I'm sorry, y'all.
Why are you going to diss us now?
No, no, no, I'm sorry.
I've never seen this before in my life.
And LeBron wasn't, like, LeBron didn't win.
The whole stadium went out.
Like, half of the stadium left.
I was like, New York fans will never do that.
The Knicks could be getting pounded, and we'll still be there with our popcorn.
So Miami fans are different.
How was that experience, you coming?
Well, let me start with, you know, I've lived in,
I lived in Tampa on the other side of Florida
for 20-some years.
We had our player development
and spring training facility there.
So I always lived in Tampa
so I could work out the entire off season.
And love Florida, lived here for a long time.
And you know, major league teams,
I should say sports franchises, don't trade that often.
It's not like you can just wake up one day and say, hey, oh, yeah, I want to get together and buy a team.
So I wanted to acquire a team that was close to home.
And it just so happened that Miami came up.
And so I put together an ownership group and we purchased a team.
And one thing about Miami fans, when you're comparing Miami and New York, New York is
generational fans.
You are born a Yankee fan.
Your parents were, your grandparents,
your great-grandparents. You basically
have no choice.
You have no choice.
And then you come to Miami,
especially the baseball team, it's a new
franchise with a checkered past.
They have a history of, they've won couple of times, they get rid of everyone.
And we came in, we made changes.
I look at it as a challenge.
You know, everything in life is challenging.
Anything that means something to you is challenging.
So never shied away from it.
And we, I think as a sports fan, and it's understandable, you look at wins and losses.
That's how you judge an organization.
I get it.
But there's a lot more that goes along with it.
You have to build a great front office.
You have to build a great minor league system.
Unfortunately, it takes time.
It takes patience.
I don't have any patience, right?
But I'm trying to learn.
I got kids now, so I'm trying to work on my patience.
But it takes some patience.
And we accomplished quite a bit, I think, in my time with the organization.
And, you know, whether we went to the postseason for the first time in 17 years.
I mean, look, no matter how you look at it, ultimately your goal is to win a championship.
But there's steps along the way.
You know, because, you know, during my career, I was known for saying, if you didn't win a World
Series, season's a failure.
It is a failure. Plus, I
won my first year. You know what I mean?
So there's nowhere to go.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not saying it for applause.
I'm just saying, you know,
that's the goal we set, right? That's
the precedent we set. We won.
So next year, what, getting to the World Series doesn't mean anything.
So I'm down here in Miami.
There's steps along the way.
So we took some steps in the right direction.
I'm proud of the front office that we built, the diverse front office that we built.
And unfortunately, like I said, when I left, you know, the direction of the team changed.
And it wouldn't be me if I was still there.
Because they blamed you.
What guy did y'all trade to?
They blamed me for everything.
Which is fine.
Who's they?
Which is fine.
The people in college are talking about it.
But what's the guy that they traded to New York?
Stan.
Yeah, because they blamed you for that.
You remember?
Yeah, but I mean, look, this is the way I look at it, right?
Look, Miami had some great players when we took over.
But for whatever reason, they didn't win.
Right.
For whatever reason.
So there needs to be change.
Right.
I mean, I worked for George Steinbrenner.
Right.
You didn't do your job.
You were gone.
Right.
I mean, it's just black and white.
You win or you make changes.
So, yeah, we made changes.
I know there was a lot of
unpopular decisions
that were made,
but, you know, I'm fine.
What do you think is harder,
being a player or being an owner?
Man, you know what?
When you play,
you have a chance
to affect the outcome of a game.
Wow.
When you're up there watching,
you can't control it.
Right.
I mean, you can't.
You know, you see things
from up in a suite. You see it as if you were playing, but it's not watching you can't control it right i mean you can't you know you see things from up in a
suite you see it as if you were playing but it's not like you can go down there and say something
you know so it's it's it's challenging i was gonna ask that have you ever like as an owner was like
man let me go suit up no no no no no no no no no let's get one thing let's get one thing straight
i i'm done i i i done. I would embarrass myself.
I understand how difficult it is to play the game.
I understand people are going to fail.
And we talked about it earlier.
I actually like to see when players fail.
Because I watch what you do when you're walking off the field.
I watch what you do when you're in the clubhouse.
I watch what you do in post-game interviews.
I see it.
It tells me a lot more about an individual when they struggle.
Like, you know, in sportsmanship, they shake hands after win or loss. So if a person
doesn't shake a hand, you feel like- Good sportsmanship.
Like, yeah, when they lose. Have you ever did that?
I wasn't shaking hands with people when we lost. You know what I mean? No, I didn't do that.
There's a funny story. When I was younger, I was playing Little League, and my dad coached me for
just a couple years. I was trying to beg him for years to coach me.
And one time we lost a game, and I refused to shake.
In Little League, you shake hands with your other team afterwards.
I refused to shake hands with the other team.
So, you know, he pulled me aside and said, man, you need to start playing an individual sport.
I said, because, you know, it taught me a lesson.
I mean, you don't want to say you lose gracefully right because you never
accept it right but i think it's it's you understand that you know you can't walk around
with your head up high when things are going good and then all of a sudden you disappear
when things don't go your way so i didn't man i wasn't shaking hands after we lost but um
i did it i lost respectfully right right right
yeah I understand
I understand
I understand
holy shit
holy moly
I got notes
and all type of things
I'm getting into it
let's go
holy shit
how many years
were you at the Marlin
four and a half
four and a half
yeah four and a half
and do you think
that you were able
to accomplish
some of the things
you were trying
to like create
that process to get the team where they needed to be?
It all starts with people.
You got to have the right people in place.
And it's, you know, I said it in the documentary.
Remember when Theo Epstein had a lot of success in Boston, then he went to Chicago.
And when he got to Chicago, I mean, he told the fan base, it's going to take us five years, right? I never put a time frame on it because I think if you tell someone it's going to take us
a few years, you're making it okay for them to fail.
I expect you, when you compete, you're expected to win, right?
So I think we made a lot of progress, not enough.
So I'm more happy and I'm more proud
of the people that we put in place
I mean
and
up until when I left
and you were supposed to be with Diddy
and J-Lo
the night of the NY
club shooting
I wouldn't necessarily say supposed to be.
You know my boy, Mike.
Right, right.
Yeah, so we were out right after a game.
We were eating, and then Puff had mentioned to Mike,
why don't you guys come by?
And I was like, I used to say it all the time.
Man, I'm going to stay out of trouble tonight.
Right.
I used to say it all the time.
So it was just luck, I guess.
I avoided
a conflict.
It was crazy. So I'm sitting there, me and Puff,
last time I seen you was here, correct?
And I think me and Puff was there.
I'm running him down the documentary
and there's so much of events.
It's like, you are
like, I keep forgetting
you're not from New York City, like born and raised because my whole life in New York City, I've known Terry Dealer to be there.
Yeah, I've said this before.
You know, I think it's called The Truman Show.
Jim Carrey grew up on television.
Yeah, yeah.
That was me.
Because I came to New York, I was 20 years old.
We talked about it before.
Yankee fans watch every single game.
So they watched me grow up. And I watched Yankee fans grow up single game. So they watched me grow up.
I watched Yankee fans grow up too.
So we grew up together.
And the great thing about baseball, it's every single day.
Right.
I'll tell you something that was weird for me
as a Yankee fan was I didn't think that the Yankees
should have ever took A-Rod.
I felt like that was both your opposition.
You were solidified.
I didn't know why they ever, like,
brung him on.
Well, one thing with New York, man,
the Yankees, and especially Mr. Steinbrenner,
you can play, he wants you.
Yeah.
He wants to win, man.
I told this story before.
You know, Mr. Steinbrenner,
the late George Steinbrenner,
is a big football guy.
We have a great relationship
because he was an Ohio State guy.
I grew up in Michigan, so we used to butt heads all the time on Michigan-Ohio State football.
And I say he's an old football guy because he had a real tough time realizing—
Is that the one who didn't want to pay you when you were—
We'll get to that.
Okay. So in 162 games, he had a tough time understanding that you may actually lose a game.
Now, I'm of the mindset every time you take the field, you have an opportunity to win a game.
You should play and expect to win, right?
But I also understood you can't win every game.
He didn't understand that, you know?
So he expected everyone
to be accountable. And if there was a player that he felt as though would help us win, he would go
get them. And you got to tip your cap to him because in my mind, he's one of the greatest
owners in all sports. Right. But a tough guy. Oh yeah. He was a tough guy. He used to challenge
you. His best players, he would challenge you. He would call you out publicly. He would, yeah, he was a tough guy. He used to challenge you. His best players, he would challenge you. He would call you out publicly.
Yeah, he would try to embarrass you just to see how you were going to respond.
Because it takes a certain type of individual to deal with everything that comes with New York.
And he would find out.
All right.
Holy moly.
We got to give him his flowers, man.
That's right.
Listen, our show is about giving people their flowers while they're alive,
telling them how great they is to their face.
We want you to know you are greatness.
You've made us proud.
We going to give you your flowers to your face.
Oh, thank you.
Tell you how greatness is.
Come on, Mr. Lee.
Mr. Lee's never on point with this.
Yeah.
Make some noise for Derek J.
I appreciate that, man. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You make some noise for Mother Mother, Derek Jeevy, y'all!
I appreciate that, man.
That's a little detailed in there.
Yes.
13 Flowers.
And it's for a certain reason.
Come on, Paul.
Oh my goodness.
I know you know it.
Tell them.
So when you went to the Yankees and you asked for number 13 because of your father, he played,
and he was number 13.
We just wanted to respect the fact that we understood that detail was so important to you.
So we made those flower gifts 13 since you didn't get it.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You really did some research.
Yeah, you did some research.
I like it.
I like it.
Thank you.
So how did you wind up getting the number two then?
Just gave it to me, man.
I think it was the smallest jersey.
I really do.
You know, there was a guy by the name of Mike Gallego that wore number two before me.
Mike Gallego was probably, what, five, six, five, seven.
And, you know, when I played basketball in high school, and, you know, in basketball,
they always make you a little taller, a little heavier, right?
So I was listed as 6'3 185 when i was drafted and um first thing they did the yankee signed me is they
measured me and put me on a scale i was 6'2 154 dress dress so when i finally got to new york
man i probably weighed 175 180 so i just think two was, there's all these rumors of why they gave me number two.
I just think it was the smallest jersey they had, man.
And something else that was very interesting,
we was Googling.
Google is dangerous.
Yeah, Google is, yeah.
Don't believe everything you Google, man.
But it's only like the history of like 10 captains on the Yankees.
Like, if that, like,
so I always thought that they was,
I didn't know this was elite when they called you the captain.
Did you know, did you know that?
I did.
It's not a title that's thrown around lightly
in the Yankee organization.
I believe I was the 11th one.
I mean, there's some historical accounts
that there were a couple more.
I think they said, don't quote me on it so you can erase it if I'm wrong more. I think they said,
don't quote me on it
so you can erase it if I'm wrong,
but I think they said
Babe Ruth was a captain for a day.
I think I heard that.
Probably got into something
and got in trouble.
Yeah.
Different times,
different times back then.
So yeah, it's not a title
that's thrown around lightly.
So I always took that responsibility
and I tried to represent
the organization
in the best light I could.
Right.
Do you believe in the curse of Babe Ruth?
I did.
You did?
Yeah, I did.
I mean, they obviously broke the curse.
But, yeah, there was just some strange stuff that happened, man, every time we played Boston.
It was like Boston just couldn't figure it out.
You waited for them to screw it up.
Yeah, I heard you say that.
Yeah, you waited for them to screw it up.
I remember there was one time they was winning.
He was like, don't worry.
Don't screw it up.
You're like, don't worry.
Yeah.
Boston will be Boston.
But yeah, they ended the curse.
Yeah, they ended the curse.
Okay, so it's okay.
In a big way, yeah.
Okay, all right.
Look, George Steinbrenner,
my next, my next.
So didn't he get fired at one point or didn't they let him go as an owner?
No comment.
Oh, I didn't know.
I didn't know.
I didn't know.
No, he had some.
Yeah, there were some issues that he had.
My favorite player is Dave Winfield.
Dave Winfield.
Yeah, so there was some issues he had with Dave.
So he was suspended for some time.
Yeah, and I actually, matter of fact, I think that's probably one of the reasons why the group of young players that I came up with were able to stay with the organization.
Because the boss was known he's going to go get free agents, right?
He didn't get any patience for young players.
And, you know, Bernie Williams was the first one that really got an opportunity and had some success.
So, yeah, the boss was suspended for a while.
And Bernie Williams, that was your best friend, right?
Bernie came was a little before us.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay, hold on.
You said in the documentary that if there was phones back then.
Like iPhones.
Yeah, like iPhones.
Yeah, any kind of recording device.
Any kind of recording device.
Because you know how New York was, man.
And you was the king of New York.
We used to go out in New York, and we'd be out 4 o'clock in the morning.
You leave a place, and there's a line to get in.
You didn't have to worry about anything, because there was page 6, but there were no photos.
If it's just words, that's a rumor.
I don't know.
That's a rumor.
Yeah, it wasn't me. You don a rumor. Yeah. I don't know. That's a rumor. Yeah.
It wasn't me.
Right.
You know,
you don't have a picture,
it wasn't me.
So,
now,
man,
it's,
I feel bad for,
you know,
young athletes
and entertainers
that,
you know,
now everyone's a member
of the media
because they have a phone.
No matter what you do,
they have a phone.
Yes.
You find that annoying?
Do people just put
their phone on you
when you're out and about?
Sometimes people have been respectful for the most part.
But, you know, what I tell people, especially young players,
you have to assume everything you do is public knowledge.
Wow.
Unless you're in your own house.
Everything you do is public knowledge.
And that's a rough way to live life, man.
Yeah.
It really is.
And it just keeps getting, I don't want to say worse,
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Like the other day I was walking to someone and I'm going to meet one of my friends and he has one of his people with me.
And that person didn't even say hi to me.
Just automatically just pulled out the phone and just started filming.
And I was like, in what world is this cool?
Like, it's my friend didn't say nothing to him.
The dude just started filming me.
And I was like, you don't think I deserve privacy?
I'm coming to see my friend.
And he looked at me like, no.
And I looked like this is my personal time.
And it's like this era is like really like it's like everything.
Pull yours out and film them.
Which is it?
That's what I'm saying.
Pull your phone out and start filming them.
It makes them uncomfortable. Yeah. But do it. Pull it out. You start taping them. Right, yeah. Oh, you said do it back film them. Which is it? Pull your phone out and start filming them. It makes them uncomfortable.
Yeah.
But do it.
Pull it out
and you start taping them.
Right, yeah.
Oh, you said do it back to them.
Yeah, do it back.
Oh, okay.
I didn't even think of that.
I was just like,
buddy, I thought you
were like a good guy.
And then see,
nothing wrong with it.
You know, the thing is
what I find to be disappointing,
I don't want to be
like a back in the day guy.
Someone always say, oh, you're a back in the daythe-day guy because every time it's like, well, back-in-the-day.
But people don't have experiences anymore because they're so focused on capturing it and sharing it with other people.
So you go to a concert, you go to a sporting event, and this is what you're doing.
Enjoy the experience, you know, because those are the things you can't get back.
The feeling you have in the experience is something that you could remember.
Now, my last season I played, I kept a journal.
Every day I wrote down how I felt.
Now, it didn't necessarily have to be about a game, but just how I felt on that particular day.
And I wish I would have done that my entire career.
Because there's so many things you forget about, right?
Experiences you forget about.
That's why the documentary was fun for me because I'm listening to everyone else share their experiences, you know?
But those are the things you had.
You talked about New York back in the day, going out, having fun.
You know, you run into someone 20 years ago, but you remember how you felt when you were with them at the time.
So I think that's something that I think is missing nowadays.
You got to enjoy experiences.
It's crazy, man.
It's crazy what this generation has led to.
It's like no privacy at all.
I just thought.
And it has to make you appreciate
the era that you played in.
It does.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean,
I value privacy.
You know,
I take it to another level.
You know what I mean?
That's why when we did
the documentary,
initially I said,
no, absolutely not.
I'm just not going to do it.
I wanted to film
the potential Hall of Fame call
that I would get
and then film the ceremony
so I could share it with my girls.
I have three now, but I had two at the time.
And then it turned into,
why don't we do a larger project around your entire career?
And I was like, man, I ain't doing it.
Because I've said this before,
once you let the toothpaste out of the tube,
you can't put it back in.
Once you start sharing it, man, you can't get it back.
And I said, you know what, man? It's, it's, it's, you can't get it back. And, um, I said, you know what, man,
it's, it's, it's my career. It's what happened. Um, somebody is going to do it at some point.
I might as well do it. So, uh, I'm happy that I did. Right. So let's, let's, like I said,
we bouncing around a little bit, but let's go when A-Rod had made those comments
and I'm talking about the comments when he said... Not Kendall.
Oh, yeah. He's from Kendall. A-Rod is from Kendall.
These guys are from Kendall.
We got to be careful.
There might be these boys over there. We don't know. You got the New Yorkers on your side.
Don't worry about it. You're good.
But I believe he
said that
Derek's
team won.
And that... Derek's team won. How did you feel when he said that?
Correct.
I mean, you know, we won.
You know, my thing is...
I knew you were going to answer that.
I knew you were going to answer that.
I was thinking about what you were going to say.
I'm sorry.
But look, I mean, everyone made such a big deal,
and I understand it,
such a big deal out of our relationship
because of things that were said in the media.
This was 20 years ago, pretty much, you know?
And that's why in the documentary,
I wanted people to know how I felt at the time.
Now, a lot of things in life have happened since then.
Yeah, and they moved on.
It's over.
I don't feel that way anymore.
But at the time, how I felt was I'm extremely loyal.
I wouldn't do it to a friend.
Because y'all were friends.
Yeah, I just keep it moving, man.
I've said maybe it's a character flaw for me, but I just turn it off like that.
And I won't ever think about it again.
It's just you move on.
But I think as I've gotten older, things happen in life, life experiences.
I have a family now.
You lose close friends.
I lost a very close friend of mine.
And I don't want to feel a certain way when I see someone, man.
So if I have something to say, I'll say it.
And we move on, right?
You have acquaintances.
You have friendsances, you have friends. Right. And I think you only have so many real true friends and I value relationships. I value my friends. I'm extremely loyal and I'll continue to be that way.
Right. And was it coming from like a sidebar? Like were were you shocked? Or were you like, damn, because, you know,
being famous is a fucking
great and terrible thing, right?
Because, like,
a person can be one way
and then they get in front
of their camera
and be a totally different way.
Did you feel like snaked?
Did you feel like betrayed
because of his comments?
Yeah, there was some feeling.
Yeah, of course.
You know, of course.
You see it and you're like,
well, what is this?
You know, first of all,
it's coming out of left field. You know, I'm. You see it and you're like, well, what is this? Right. You know, first of all, it's coming out of left field.
Right.
You know, I'm like, where is this coming from?
But once again, we were 20-something years old back then, man.
Like, now it's, I don't care.
I mean, I have a good relationship.
If y'all see A-Rod, if A-Rod walk in here right now, what's going to happen?
I just did his show in New York recently.
You know, we've gotten together before the documentary came out.
You know, I wanted to reach out and say, hey, look, you know, he was a part of the documentary.
I wanted him to be a part.
I wanted him to tell his side.
You know, any friction I had with any particular person in my career, I wanted them to tell their side.
I didn't want to do a puff piece.
You know, I didn't want everyone just saying great things about me.
And when he means by puff piece, that means he doesn't mean puff daddy, guys.
He means like salt piece.
Yeah, I mean, if you had a problem with me, say it.
Right.
I'm biased.
I have some problems with people, too.
I have no problem saying it.
But, yeah, I have no issues whatsoever.
Yo, I'm so happy, man.
To like, Deuce, if you're ready to, yeah, grab the other chair.
I want to bring my brother Deuce in. Yeah, you asked me if I wanted some of that wine, man. You're going to do. Yeah, grab the chair. I want to bring my brother Deuce in.
Yeah, you asked me if I wanted some of that wine, man.
You're going through it.
Hey, listen, man.
No, no, no, no.
I'm good.
I had to fix myself.
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listen man no no no no man we it's not an honor that we get the captain to sit down.
And by the way, I'm just being honest with you.
You are the most humblest legend ever.
You're always respectful.
You always kind of say the right thing.
Are you a maniac in real life?
Well, you got to define maniac.
It depends on who you ask. It's true, it's true. You got to think about it. Yeah, yeah, you got a defined maniac it depends on who you ask
it's true
it's true
you got to ask
someone
because I got a
friend named SBK
and everyone
when we see him
and he's always
the same
but then we're like
something about him
we spread a rumor
yeah we spread a rumor
that he's a night killer
we were like at night
he changes
yes he changes
let's clarify.
I'm not Jeffrey Dahmer.
No, no, no.
I'm not Dahmer.
Now,
the Bronx,
that's where I wanted to bring,
I'm deucing right now.
A lot of people don't know
Yankee Stadium
is smack dead
in the middle of the hood.
Yeah.
This is my brother
from the Blackpool 157 in Javar.
And I remember
going to see them at times
and the hood would be all
selling parking spots.
Yeah, yeah.
$100 a spot.
$100 a spot.
And me, I'm from Queens.
So I actually lived
I lived about 10 minutes away from, well, Shea Stadium.
Shea Stadium, not Citi Field.
And I would know the difference.
Going to Shea Stadium is not in the hood.
Citi Field is not in the hood.
But there's no way you could get to Yankee Stadium without avoiding the hood.
Yeah.
How was that when you, just you even walking into the locker room,
because I know New Yorkers embraced you,
but how was that for your teammates, like, getting that real New York?
And this is the Bronx.
Yeah, I mean, well, first of all, it was intimidating for opposing players.
Yes.
You know, especially you taking the old stadium.
The old stadium.
The market was back then.
Players did not want to come to Yankee Stadium.
They did not want to come.
And part of the reason why you have a new stadium now, the new stadium is unbelievable,
especially for the amenities for the players and the fans.
But a lot of times it looks like it's empty because there's all these underground suites and restaurants.
And you can watch games in the hallways.
Old Yankee Stadium, if you wanted to watch the game,
you had to be sitting in your seat.
And go ahead.
I used to watch the game from the roof.
Remember the cutting right here?
Remember the cutting right here?
Yeah, I got you.
Yes, yes, yes.
So you couldn't even get in the stadium,
but you could watch it.
After like the fourth or fifth inning, if it wasn't packed,
they used to come around and give out tickets.
Yo, go on, fellas.
You know, to make it, fluff it up.
Yes, yes.
But when we was young, we didn't have nothing.
We used to go to the roof and look through the slag in right field.
You know what I'm talking about?
Yeah, yeah.
You had to do it.
And the thing is, is that's what made it intimidating.
People didn't want to come.
They were uncomfortable coming to the Bronx. And I think that, that's what made it intimidate. People didn't want to come. They were uncomfortable
coming to the Bronx.
And I think that played
as an advantage to us.
Of course.
Psychological, right?
That's fire, though.
Because you remember,
the players used to come
through the back,
through the gate.
Oh, yeah.
Parking light.
Oh, yeah, you had to walk
through the people.
You got to walk
through the people.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like, yeah,
we're taking the Yankees.
We're just throwing shit at them.
Yeah, you got to go,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's hard.
That's hard.
I can visually picture it.
It was literally a park.
The player parking lot was here.
It's a street that people drive through.
And we had a park with the basketball courts and everything, handball, everything.
So everybody, it's just movement.
So the players is coming.
If you was a Yankee, we loved you.
But if you was like a Red Sox, a Mariner, the ball accidentally hit you in the head.
They still
batteries at the original player
at the old Yankee Stadium, man. Yeah, it was
great.
It was great, man.
Yeah, right away.
Yo, man, this is
so crazy, man, because I
can literally see. I've been to both stadiums.
Let me tell you something.
I haven't been to a lot of the games.
I've always watched them.
What you want to say?
I was a Yankee fan all my life.
Like he said, it's generational.
You don't have no choice.
It's like they take you off in Queens.
You say, I'll be fighting with the Queens.
No, we have a choice, though, sir.
No, we have a choice.
No, you don't.
You're just a renegade.
Yeah, I'm a Yankee fan.
I'm a Yankees fan.
Uh-huh.
Growing up,
like, growing up,
you got to be,
you from here?
Yeah.
If you come around
with a Boston hat,
we taking your hat
and throwing it in the street.
Any kind of hat we violating
unless it's this one.
Okay.
So, it was like,
if it wasn't that,
move.
Tell your moms to move.
But let me ask y'all one question.
Don't wear the black mask.
Why is this only official Yankee hat?
It has to be a grand.
That's the original.
He can tell you.
He had it for 20 years.
What is these guys?
You don't need me here.
Why is my crew the fucking Yankee specialists?
My nephew, my dudes, and motherfucking Diego, they pulled me to the side.
They said, that jersey that you posted online, you embarrassed us.
It's good friends.
It's good friends.
It's a real good friend.
Jerry didn't agree with you, motherfucker.
As soon as he posted it, somebody said, that's fake.
I had no idea.
Like, they literally had an intervention.
So we're like, yo, we got Derrick Jeter.
Derrick's coming tomorrow.
And I don't know if they had a talk before.
No.
Well, they just all came to me at the same time.
I was like, listen, buddy, we asked you to take it off of Instagram.
We asked you to take it down.
I was like, what?
It's like, we are not wearing a Derrick Jeter with it on the back.
And so I'm bleeding with them. I'm like with it on the back. And I'm,
so I'm pleading with them.
I'm like,
come on, man.
It's just a,
it's a fan shit.
They're like,
no,
I said,
let me just fan out.
They're like,
no,
you are not bringing it.
And to hear you co-sign it,
I'm never going to get away with this.
By the way,
Sonny D,
you're dead.
Wow.
Sonny D got the,
no,
no,
no,
I'm saying like,
no,
no,
yeah,
yeah, yeah. But it's okay to keep buying the shirts together
do you know what's crazy so when after they hit me with the information i had my boy diego call
actually yankee stadium was it stan stan sports you know yeah and stan so we call and they're
like oh no his jersey is still sold out do you know that I don't but thank you that was fire
like
and you know
we wanted brags
we were like
you know we were
interviewing Derek Jeter
you know
they were like
who the fuck
is these assholes
and he's like
but she didn't know
she didn't know
and she's like
no his jersey
is still sold out
she's like
I felt like she was
a black lady
cause she was like
child honey his jersey's still sold out. She's like, I felt like she was a black lady because she was like, child, honey.
His jersey's been gone for a long time.
Yeah, I just went back to the stadium.
For the Hall of Fame.
Yeah, yeah.
How did we not talk about the Hall of Fame yet?
Come on.
So I remember when we first tried to get you for the interview.
And I believe Mike called me and Mike said, why don't we wait until after he gets the Hall of Fame?
And I just remember that call was so fly to me.
A person just said to me, after the Hall of Fame.
I was like, oh, shit.
I said, I don't know if he knew he was flossing, but that was something.
But how is, I know we spoke a little about it earlier.
Did you know you was being inducted to the Hall of Fame prior?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
And it was one dude that didn't vote for you.
Do you remember his name?
I don't.
You know what?
I don't know who it is.
We're going to find out.
But let me start with, first of all, I don't care.
And the reason why, you know, it's tough to get that many people to agree on anything in life, right?
And who would I be to say everyone should have voted for me?
I mean, Hank Aaron wasn't unanimous.
You know what I mean?
Really?
Babe Ruth wasn't unanimous.
You go through that.
There's only been one, which is Mariano.
But the only issue that I have is as an athlete, reporters expect you to be accountable.
They expect you to sit there and answer questions about how you performed.
And now I have to answer questions about whoever this one individual is.
For the last few years, I got to answer the question.
He or she should be the one that's answering the question on why they didn't vote for me.
I don't care.
I don't care.
They don't put the number of votes
on a Hall of Fame plaque.
But if you're preaching accountability,
you have to be accountable yourself.
I ain't going to lie,
this is some good wine.
Look at my legs.
I know, you're going down, yeah.
Whoever that reporter is
that didn't,
because you could be humble.
Let me take this.
Whoever that reporter is,
we want to put horse shit in your shoes.
Damn.
So make sure you protect your feet because we're looking for you, okay?
We're looking for you.
Holy moly guacamole.
Yo, quick time?
Okay, okay, okay.
This is where the show gets a little crazy, right?
Oh, shit.
We too fancy for crazy. We too fancy for crazy.
We too fancy for crazy here.
I feel like we're keeping our voice down.
I feel like we're in a library.
I feel like there's a principal going to come out of some way.
Hey, guys, are you guys okay?
Be quiet, guys.
Okay, we got quick time.
Okay, so I'll explain the game.
It's very simple.
And you don't have to take the shots.
We'll be the bozos for you to take the shots.
We're just going to sip.
We'll sip.
Okay, so we'll give you two choices.
We'll give you a huh, a huh, and if you say both, be politically correct, then we take
a shot.
Or neither.
If you say both or neither, okay.
Or neither.
You take a shot.
If you don't pick, you don't make a choice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
All right, this is the first one. The want to say what? Open one. Okay.
All right, this is the first one.
It's open.
The first one is fantastic.
That was you?
Okay, the first one's fantastic.
We're going to eat after this, right?
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Yes, okay.
I'm in.
Ozzie Smith or Cal Ripken Jr.?
Damn.
Holy shit.
He already knows this game.
These are good.
Okay.
I'm in.
I'm in.
I'm in.
I'm in.
I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. Cal Ripken Jr. Damn. Holy shit. He already knows this game.
These are good.
Okay, can I explain?
It's not just one or the other.
Yes, you can explain.
I will go with Cal, and I'm going to tell you why.
Yes.
Because when I was growing up, I was a taller shortstop,
6'2", 6'3", and everyone used to say,
you know, you're too tall to play the position. And as a tall shortstop, your foot two, six three. And everyone used to say, you know, you're too tall to play the position.
And as a tall shortstop, your first line of defense was,
well, look at Cal Ripken Jr., right?
So Cal sort of changed the mold for shortstops being taller.
So I would say Cal, just because he was closer to,
I'm not diving around, flipping, doing backflips like Ozzy.
I can't relate to Ozzy.
I can't relate to Ozzy. I can't relate to Ozzy.
Okay.
Babe Wolf or Lou Gehrig?
God damn, man.
I love this.
Drink.
Shots.
But is there more to the question?
No, no, no.
One or the other.
We'll drink for you.
Don't worry about it.
There are criteria.
If you want to say both, we'll drink for you.
I feel like I'm getting my shot ready.
Lou was Yankee captain.
Babe's larger than life.
Just get the drink, man.
Yeah, get the drink.
All right, let's go.
I'm just sitting.
No shot for me.
Come on.
You're drinking brown?
You're drinking brown?
I'm going in.
Pup Daddy got to be proud of you, man.
Pup Daddy got to be proud of you.
We're getting you that deal.
Okay.
Ready?
Where is it?
It's basically the same thing anyway.
It's the same.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Salud.
Salud.
This is to you.
This is to you. How many of these questions we got? I don't know. It's the same. Salud. Salud. This is to you. This is to you.
How many of these questions we got?
I like 20-something.
Shit.
Ooh.
Because you're from Kindle, I want you to ask the next one.
A-Rod or Barry Larkin?
Man, I mean, I played with Alex.
You know what I mean?
He's my teammate.
Barry, I love Barry Larkin because um he went to University of Michigan I grew up in Michigan right so I love Barry Larkin
but I played with Alex okay he picking Kendall he picking Kendall yeah
oh Bernie Williams or Ricky Henderson same thing thing. I played with Bernie.
I mean, but Ricky Henderson, man, greatest leadoff hitter in baseball history.
I love Ricky.
I used to just watch him. I'm in a no-win situation.
Oh, yeah, take a shot.
Oh, I love you.
Jerry, you made the game.
Shit.
Come on, Cat.
We from the Bronx, man.
Come on, Cat. Okay. the Bronx, man. Come on, Cat.
Okay.
Tupac or DMX?
The game is made for that.
The game is made for you.
That face you just made is made just for that.
You sipping?
You gonna drink?
All right, come on.
I'm sipping.
Yeah, bro.
Come on.
You don't have to go.
Hold on.
Hold on.
I'm going to take this whole shot.
Hold on.
I've been slacking. I've been here. Hold on. to go. Hold on. I'm going to take this whole shot. Hold on. I've been slacking.
I've been here.
Hold on.
I've been slacking.
I'm going to take this whole shot.
The captain is not making decisions.
We're coming off a laugh.
Thank you, sir.
Okay.
This is a great one.
All right.
Daryl Strawberry or Tino Martinez?
Who gave you these, man?
Seriously.
My Dominican and my Colombian.
Like, who?
Yours?
You know what they do?
Let me just explain
what happened.
We come,
we sit down with the guys
and then they analyze everything
and then they start making up
shit that they think
is going to be hard for you.
So if you have any beef,
this is the Dominican right there.
You let us know.
We'll get them after the show
and then the Colombian.
Well, first of all, I would say both.
Right.
Let me explain.
Let me explain.
Cheers.
Tino, one of my closest friends during my career.
Right.
Tino lived down the street from me in Tampa.
Wow.
Got my first major league hit.
Tino was the first baseman for Seattle.
And he told me, congratulations, just the first of many.
Wow.
Right?
When you got the hit.
Straw, when the Yankees signed Straw, he came to AAA.
I played with him in AAA.
And Darryl was like a big brother to me, especially early on in my career.
He sat me down and told me the expectations of playing in New York,
who you need to look out for, all the mistakes he made.
Don't fall into the same trap.
But Strowman played for both.
He played for the Mets and the Yankees.
So I think, you know, there are—
Showed you the ropes?
Yeah, I mean, you talk about players that, you know—
My thing in anything you do, you can't be an expert at anything unless you've done it.
Yes.
You can't be.
You can be knowledgeable, but you're not an expert unless you've gone through it
and you've done it.
You can't take marriage advice from a person that's never been married.
Exactly.
You said that.
I didn't say that.
Okay.
I didn't say that.
So Straw is someone that had experience in terms of being a young player, came to New York at a young age, had success.
Thank you for the water.
Had success.
Made mistakes.
Yes.
And he shared those mistakes, and he looked out for me.
So I can't pick one.
We already did it.
Are we done?
No.
This is a good one.
This is a good one.
This is a good one.
I don't want to call it a stairway's cres is a good one. This is a good one. This is,
I don't want to call it a stairway's crescent,
but hey.
You want me to say it?
Is it Jose Canseco or Mark McGuire?
I,
I mean.
Right.
I,
geez.
Honestly,
I'm going to be honest with you.
Jose Canseco is easier to rhyme in my rhymes.
But you know what?
I played with Jose.
He was on the Yankees for a minute.
Yeah, he was on the Yankees for a minute.
That's right.
Zero issues with Jose Canseco.
He was pretty quiet when he was with us.
He wasn't with us long.
He was with us in 2000 when we won the World Series.
Mark, I don't know well. I don't.
But why have you never been accused of taking any enhancement? Nothing.
I don't know.
He's like, what happened?
I didn't do a lot of home runs, man.
The way I always looked at it were two things.
One, my dad was a drug and alcohol abuse counselor. So I've heard
stories growing up. It scared me to death, right? To this day, when I'm doing something,
I try not to disappoint my parents. You know, that fear you have as a kid, it's still there.
That's important.
You know what I mean? And two, with the Yankee organization, we got compensated for winning.
Right.
Yeah.
Stats are great.
You put up stats.
But ultimately, if you won, you got paid.
That's the only thing that I cared about was winning.
Right.
But so there was no, you was never at the gym and somebody can try to pump you some Roy's
and somebody came and said, like that?
Like that?
I don't know.
Yeah. I was like, just let him finish. What kind of dealerids, somebody came up to you. Like that? But like what? I don't know.
I was like, just let him finish.
What kind of dealer is that?
He's delighted?
To me, that's how somebody sells steroids.
They're like, yeah, yeah, man.
Because listen, listen, by the way, let me be real.
All right, listen, let's just be honest.
We live in Miami.
Oh, I'm not going to acknowledge you.
You better stay over there and chill.
Listen.
He's flexing, too.
Yeah, he flexing.
He's like this.
Listen, this is the only place in Miami, right?
I'm in Equinox, randomly.
I'm in Equinox gym.
I'm just, I'm thinking I'm in the gym.
And a dude just walks up to me and says, hey, man.
We could cut this down short very fast.
This process, this process.
He said, so I say to him, I've never been off
steroids before in my life.
So I said, what? He said over steroids before in my life. So I said, what?
He said, man, I got that.
Dang.
Two weeks, you'll be a different man.
And I just like, so I got over steroids.
No, no, no.
I'm going to tell you what.
Let's clarify one thing.
You know, first of all, you know, when you hear people say it was the steroid era, everybody was doing it.
Bullshit.
Everybody wasn't doing it.
That's right.
And it wasn't.
We're playing you. And it wasn't. I was doing it. Bullshit. Everybody wasn't doing it. That's right. We claim you.
You were not doing it.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
No, but it wasn't like
you walk in a clubhouse
and all the teammates
were getting together
saying, you know,
you taking this,
you taking that.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
The position I was in
in the organization,
first of all,
if you thought someone
was doing something,
do you think they're going
to come tell me about it?
You know what I mean? So it's not like
it was just this
open secret that
everyone was discussing. It wasn't.
Right. Right. That's
ill because... Alright.
Let's move on to the steroids, Harry.
Get up out of there.
Alright. I was trying to distract you
from these questions.
98 Yankees? 98. Oh. I ain't going to lie, I'm going to take you from these questions. 98 Yankees? 98.
Oh.
You don't need none of them.
I ain't going to lie.
I'm going to take a shot for that.
I'm going to take a shot for that myself.
Because 98 was the best.
Oh, you're going to bow out of this one?
Okay.
All right.
Pick.
Ooh, I like this one.
MJ or LeBron?
MJ?
I mean, Michael's like my big brother, man.
I love LeBron. I don't know him well. You know, I've only met him a my big brother, man. I love LeBron.
I don't know him well.
You know, I've only met him a couple times.
Love him, but Michael's like a big brother to me.
I can't believe how much Jordan was in your documentary.
Because you could tell he doesn't do nothing for nobody.
And the fact that he came out and supported you, it made it look good.
And then the thing about it is I started to realize that y'all are like,
if they was to say Michael Jordan, they would say he's the Derek Jeter of basketball.
I don't know who says that.
A lot of people say that.
There's a couple of young brothers here, right?
I'm sorry.
And Dwayne Wade is my friend.
There's a couple of young brothers here. So they say to him, well, Derek Jeter is to what Dave County is to what Dwayne Wade is.
And I had to say, stop, please.
And I said, no, he is the Michael Jordan.
Well, first of all, I appreciate it.
No respect to Dwayne Wade.
I love you.
Michael and I met when he was actually playing baseball.
Yeah, that's why he's sad. he was actually playing baseball. Yeah.
So he was playing baseball, and we were playing,
and there's this league called the Arizona Fall League
where they take the top prospects in the minor leagues,
and when the season's over, they play an extra few weeks in Arizona.
Wow.
So this is where I met Michael for the first time.
I was 19 years old.
I had just won minor league player of the year.
Right.
I got that.
And Michael're playing.
Michael's playing in Scottsdale.
And he was on second base.
Yeah, in Arizona.
Look, you're cheating.
Yeah, come on, Chuck.
So he was on second base.
And the first thing he said to me is, what's up, DJ?
I'm like, there's another DJ behind me.
And from that point forward, man, he just always looked out for me.
He always looked out for me, and I appreciated it.
And taught me how to handle yourself not only on the field, off the field, on the court, off the court.
Still go to him for advice.
You talk about all these athletes that are involved in business.
He was the first.
Him and Magic. Him and Magic. You got to give it to Magic, business. He was the first. First. Him and Magic.
Him and Magic.
You got to give it to Magic, too.
They were the first.
But Michael's always
looked out for me, man.
And literally,
he's like a big brother to me.
Because Mike
don't fuck with everybody.
So the fact that he...
Very true.
The fact that he...
You know what I'm saying?
Like I said,
he's in the whole documentary.
I thought that was very impressive.
Okay.
New York or Miami?
New York.
Good one.
Sorry, y'all.
New York.
We understand.
You're going to get jumped afterwards, but it's okay.
Major League?
I don't know what the hell y'all saying.
Or the Bad News Bears?
Major League.
Oh, Movie League.
Oh, okay.
Major League is one of my favorite.
The first one.
The first one.
Charlie Sheen, right?
The first one.
Charlie Sheen.
Okay, I'll get that now.
Okay, so you picked Major League.
The first one, yeah.
Okay.
Michael Jackson or Prince?
Oh, my God.
We drinking?
Just the music?
Anything. Whatever it is to you. It's what you know you got on. Just the music? Anything.
Whatever it is to you.
It's what you know you got to.
Just the music.
It doesn't matter.
Whichever way you want.
Have you ever hung out with either one?
No, neither one.
Never met either one.
Neither one.
He picked Prince.
Okay.
I'm going Prince.
I'm going Prince.
Okay.
Dave Winfield or Reggie Jackson?
God damn it.
Look, first of all, I'm sorry.
See?
I didn't eat yet.
I didn't eat yet.
Dave was my favorite player growing up.
Loved Dave Winfield.
One of the first athletes to have their own foundation.
So when I was younger,
I was reading up on Dave and he had Dave Winfield poster on my wall. And I told my parents, I said,
if and when I make it to the major leagues, I'm gonna start my own foundation. Reason why I started my own foundation, Dave Winfield. I spent more time with Reggie during my career. Wow. Because Reggie worked for the organization.
Reggie used to come around, and every time he'd come to Yankee Stadium,
he'd come right to my locker, and he'd sit down and say,
sit down, Reg, what you got for me?
And so I'm going to have to say both.
You know, I can't pick between the two.
It's a shot.
Your honorable man.
But hold on a second.
Why?
Is everyone just...
Yeah, I'm saying everyone just...
You are the captain.
Do you want to see how powerful you are right now?
You're the captain.
Just in case you want me to flex your power, I'm going to just... The captain said take a shot. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, on your time. I appreciate it. We all, the captain's time. I appreciate it. I'm excited for it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I will be asleep tonight
by about 3.30,
3.30, 4.00.
That's good.
That's a good time to me.
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Mickey Mantle or Joe DiMaggio?
What's going on, man?
Why don't we even answer the question?
Let's take the shot, man.
Just say drink for 10 minutes.
So I'm going to tell you something.
Yep.
Joe DiMaggio used to come to Yankee Old Timers Day.
And I never spoke to him.
I wasn't ready.
I never spoke to him.
No, I was scared to death.
You know what I mean?
I was scared to death.
I didn't want to.
I'm always, I don't want to bother people.
Right.
You know what I mean? I don't want to. I didn't want to, I'm always, I don't want to bother people. Right. You know what I mean?
I don't want to get in their space.
So he,
I was intimidated by him.
Mickey Mantle passed
a few years prior too.
So, you know,
I didn't know Mickey at all.
Right.
But Joe DiMaggio,
I was afraid to speak to.
Wow.
Okay, I'm taking a shot for that.
Okay.
You got icing in your joint.
You cheating.
Yeah, no, I needed it.
That shit was hot as hell.
This is wicked, dude.
Jay-Z or Nas?
Oh, man, damn.
I like this.
That, man.
Come on, now.
Drake?
Man, I...
It's your biggest righteousness.
You guys say both.
You know, I know Jay a little bit better because I've had more interactions with Jay.
You know him better.
Jay's a big Yankee fan.
Yeah, yeah.
And he used to come to more games.
You know what I mean?
All right.
I mean, when it comes
you say these breadsticks He said both
He said both
He said both
You gotta go back to New York
Remember that
So um
But let me ask that famous line
Jay-Z said
He said he wear a Yankee hat
More famous than the Yankee cane
More famous than the Yankee cane
I don't necessarily agree with that
I don't necessarily agree with that I don't necessarily agree with that I appreciate it But I don't necessarily agree with that. I don't necessarily agree with that.
I don't necessarily agree with that.
I appreciate it,
but I don't necessarily agree with that.
But it was a hard line.
Yes, it was.
It was.
It was.
I like the line.
I do.
Let me get through this.
Then I want to...
You got more?
Yeah.
It's only a couple more.
Just 10 more.
Just 10 more.
No, no, no.
Not 10 more.
He's playing around.
I'm going to skip that one.
I'm going to go.
Because I don't know.
Damn, I don't know how to pronounce that.
The Roger one.
Roger Clemens or Andy.
What did I say?
Andy Pettit.
Good.
Oh, man.
You know, I would say, yeah, I got to go with Andy.
Because I played with Andy since I was 18 years old.
Here's a fact for you.
Roger Clemens was trying to hit you with the ball all the time.
He did.
So I'm going to get to Rocket in a minute.
So me, Andy Pettit, Mariano Rivera, and Jorge Posada called the core four.
Now, they leave Bernie Williams out of it. And the only reason why they don't mention
Bernie is because
Bernie wasn't there in 2009
when we won our fifth championship.
That's when the nickname came,
the core four. So everyone's like, Bernie should have been
a part of the core.
Anytime you talk to any of us, the first person
we mention is Bernie Williams, right?
Because we wouldn't have got a chance
without Bernie.
So Andy Pettit was an idiot we mentioned is Bernie Williams, right? Because, you know, we wouldn't have got a chance without Bernie.
So Andy Pettit was an idiot and he left and went to Houston
for a couple of years
and he came back.
Myself, Mariano, and Jorge
are the only three athletes
in any of the professional sports
to play 17 years together.
Wow.
It would have been four of us.
Wow.
Those three. So Andy, I know, four of us. Wow. Those three.
So Andy, I know, since I was 18, I got to pick Andy just because I'm done with you guys
with this whole game.
But Roger Clemens, I can't hear now.
But Roger Clemens, I hated Roger Clemens when I played against him.
Wow.
Hated him.
He used to hit me all the time.
He'd try to intimidate you.
You'd go to all-star games, you wouldn't speak to hitters.
Play with Roger Clemens.
He's one of the best teammates you'll have.
Right.
He really is.
When he was your enemy.
Yes, yes, yes.
So, you know, I love Rocket.
But I'd pick Andy on history by far.
Fire.
Fire.
Shaquille O'Neal
or Kareem Abdul-Jabbar?
Man.
What are we doing here, man?
How does this end up
for most people?
Not well.
But we don't get drinking.
Yeah, they keep drinking.
That's how we get them.
That's how we get the gas.
I love Shaq.
I love Shaq.
I really do.
I love Shaq.
I've met
Kareem as well.
Couldn't have been better, both of them.
Kareem
go down as
one of the top, for sure.
Two, three, I mean,
one, two, three, four, five. Well, MJ's one.
But, you know,
and Shaq too, so I
both, I got to continue.
I got to keep relationships with people.
All right, because I'll be skipping through the rest of this.
So we're going to just end it with the last one.
This is the last one for the Quick Thomas line.
Everyone thinks it's a trick question.
Me and EFN don't think it's a trick question.
We think it's the most easiest question.
I think that's what you think, too.
I think it's a trick question.
Yeah, it's a no-brainer.
Loyalty or respect?
Loyalty.
Because I think if you're loyal,
you gain respect from people.
It's a loyalty.
So one of my favorite moments
is when your parents is in the stadium
and then you look at them
and then that was your nephew.
I thought that was your son.
And he has so much swag.
He was like—
He's 11 now.
He's 11 now?
Did he know how—
No, everyone, it's funny because it's, you know,
my whole last game I played in Yankee Stadium.
And I played for parts of 20 seasons.
And I only played one game in Yankee Stadium.
It didn't count.
One game where we were eliminated.
Only one.
Every other game, we were still in playoff contention
or we were getting ready to go to the playoffs.
The only game I played where we were eliminated
was the last game I played in Yankee Stadium.
Wow.
And, you know, everyone talks about,
oh, it was all set up, right?
You know, David Robinson's was all set up, right?
David Robinson is supposed to give up two home runs so you can come up and get a walk-off hit,
and your nephew's tipping his cap.
It wasn't planned.
This is not a movie.
It wasn't like we practiced it with my nephew.
I don't think anybody can write this movie.
This movie is better than the movie.
Exactly.
So it's just everything just sort of just lined up,
and people say, you know, what's your favorite game that you played?
And obviously you talk about when you win championships.
But that's the freshest in my mind, you know, because the last game I played in Yankee Stadium and it didn't count.
It didn't mean anything for the Yankees as an organization, but it meant something for Yankee fans and for me.
Because we grew up together and it's kind of embarrassing
to say it's the only one didn't count but it counted for me well now I ain't gonna lie
I'm 45 years old my father is uh uh God bless he passed away die Diehard baseball fan. Diehard Yankee fan.
He was actually from Puerto Rico,
then moved to Harlem,
and then he moved to Queens.
But, and I have never seen the respect for a baseball player.
Like, I've never seen,
if you ever, if you said that New York
has ever, like, turned on you,
or, like, I've never seen,
I've never seen somebody with so much love.
Do you know, do you know do you
know like you're one of the most beloved baseball baseball player of all time but definitely one of
the most beloved Yankees of all time like people use you as an example do you know that I I know
that I know that um we talked about it before I know that they appreciate players that come to
work every day you gotta come to work every day. You got to come to work every day,
man. And you can't make excuses.
New Yorkers don't want to hear excuses.
You know? It's like I've said it before
when, you know, sometimes you have athletes
and I say it
respectfully, but, you know, they're playing a game
and they're saying, oh, I'm 80%.
The fuck is 80%, man?
You either play or you don't. I don't want to hear about
the other 20%. You play the game or you don't. I don't want to hear about the other 20%.
You play the game or you don't.
And if you do well or you do poorly, you stand in front of your locker and you answer questions.
You don't use things as an excuse.
There's no built-in excuses.
In New York, you can't fool New Yorkers, man.
You can't.
You can for a short period of time, right?
But they're going to figure you out.
But they're going to figure you out. But they're going to figure you out.
And I think if, you know, I was there for 20 years and they would have figured me out if I was someone other than, you know, people always say, oh, you have a great image.
It's an image, right?
You know, it's no image.
It's character.
Character is who you are.
Image who you want everyone else to see
you as, right? I don't care
what my image is with you.
I want to have good character.
You know what I'm saying? And I think New Yorkers
appreciate that.
And
man, I say the same thing about
them. New Yorkers are, they're
very clear with what their expectations
are. You know? They are. Was Michael very clear with what their expectations are.
You know, they are.
Was Michael Jordan good in basketball?
In baseball.
Yes.
And I'm going to tell you something.
Because, you know, look, a lot of people laugh.
Oh, Michael was this, Michael was that.
Michael Jordan played basketball in Little League.
And then the next time he played, he's playing in AA baseball.
Now, when you play in the minor leagues, once you get to AA, the biggest jump,
I just want, for everyone listening, you have rookie ball, you have low A,
you have high A, you have double A, you have triple A,
then you get to the major leagues. Wow.
Once you get to AA, the biggest jump is from A to AA.
If you can play in AA baseball, you can play in the major leagues can play in double A baseball, you can play in the major leagues.
At some point, you can play in the major leagues.
He went from little league to double A and hit 200.
Everyone's like, oh, he hit 200.
That's not easy to do.
A lot of people fail to realize, Cap, that baseball is a game of failures.
Yes.
When dude's back 300, it's like a great achievement.
Yeah.
But that's 300 out of 1,000.
Right.
Yeah.
I hit my first year.
I was mentioned as the high school player of the year.
I went to rookie ball.
I hit 202.
202.
And had a great two weeks.
I was hot the last two weeks to get just over 200, man.
So it's tough to do. And people just think you
watch something on television and because you're great at one sport, it should translate into
another. It doesn't happen like that. So Michael was a lot better than people give him credit for.
And if he played longer, I think he would just continue to improve.
Right. That last game that you had, it seemed like you
was fighting back tears
the whole time.
I was.
Yeah.
It was.
Yeah.
Because,
you know,
one thing we know
about everybody
that's great,
they announce
their retirement
like two or three times
and then they never
really retire.
But did you know
that that was really
going to be your last game?
Yeah, yeah.
You did? Yeah, before the season I knew. You know, I wanted to. Everyone said, oh, why'd you that was really going to be your last game? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Before the season, I knew.
You know, I wanted to.
Everyone said, oh, why did you say this was going to be your last year?
Because I knew if I didn't say it was going to be your last year,
I would have been asked the question every series, every series.
Is this your last year?
Is this your last year?
And I always said, I'm playing a sport for a career.
If it's not fun and if it feels like it's a job, I'm done.
I broke my ankle twice.
It was a lot of rehab, and now it finally became,
it felt like it was a job.
So I was like, man, I'm done.
This is my last year.
I have not thrown a baseball or swung a bat since I retired with an exception of throwing off the first pitch twice.
I was done, man.
So right now, he want to play you one-on-one a stick ball, who going to win?
Who?
What do you mean?
He going to win.
Yeah, I mean.
He still going to win.
He's good.
He's good.
I'll take the ball.
I understand.
He'll take the ball.
He'll take the ball.
Yeah, he still got your eyes.
He has eyes.
He look like, man, let's not go there.
I still got something.
Did you purposely wait to have children after?
That's an ill part of documentary as well.
Yeah, so first of all.
Which, by the way, I love the documentary.
Did I say that earlier?
Thank you.
I did say that 50,000 times.
I'm your promoter.
Thank you.
Don't worry, I'm on your team.
Let's go.
Okay.
Purposely waited.
I didn't meet the right woman.
Right.
See the rights to the camera?
One, two, three.
Oh.
But look, I'll be honest with you in terms of I've always had a great deal of admiration
and somewhat, I don't want to say jealousy,
because you're not jealous of other people.
People brought their families to games.
They brought their kids in the clubhouse, on the field.
But I just knew that I was way too selfish during my career,
way too selfish.
It was all about me.
And it wouldn't have been fair to my significant other or kids.
The greatest thing I can say about my parents is they were always present.
Yeah.
In everything I did.
Me and my sister, they were present.
They were there.
And I always wanted to be there for my kids as well.
So I wouldn't say purposely.
I didn't meet the right person.
Right.
But I knew that for me, in order, you say the right,
it's got to be the right time for you.
It has to also be the right time for your significant other.
And thank God I met my wife when I did towards the end of my career.
You're a girl dad.
I am, yes.
Who else?
I got, yeah, I got, I got, I got, don't clap.
Pray for me.
I got three of them, man.
Five, three and a half, and ten months.
How is it?
Hold on.
I need that notice.
Tell us how you felt at 3,000 with the home run.
Yes.
Well, I told everyone I was going to hit a home run.
That's movie stuff. Yeah, well, I told everyone I was going to do it. Hit a home run? Yes. Well, I told everyone I was going to hit a home run. That's movie stuff.
Yeah, well, I told everyone
I was going to do it.
Hit a home run.
I'm just playing.
I'm just playing.
I'm just playing.
I'm just playing.
Nah, nah, nah.
We spreading the rumor.
We spreading the rumor.
I'm just playing.
You know, the thing is,
I struggled.
I always struggled
when it was all about me,
which is why I struggled,
in my mind,
why I struggled my last year.
Because it was all about me. Everything was all about you. Unfortunately, it was all about me, which is why I struggled, in my mind, why I struggled my last year. Because it was all about me.
Unfortunately, it was all about me.
And answering questions not about the team,
it was strictly on me.
So leading up to 3,000 hits, I struggled bad, you know?
And I got hurt.
All I wanted was when I got my 3,000 hit,
I wanted it to be a clean hit.
Because it's going to be showed over and over and over.
I wanted to do it
at Yankee Stadium. I put a lot of pressure on myself
to do it at Yankee Stadium.
And I said,
show up. Do you talk to Aaron right now
because he's chasing the
62?
Not directly.
It's a similar thing. I say not directly.
Because I think a lot of times you have everyone in your ear.
Yeah.
And it's too much noise.
Everyone has an opinion.
Yeah.
So I think sometimes you just got to remove yourself from all the noise and just do what you continue to do.
That's right.
Yeah.
So let's talk about the 3,000 for a second because no pitcher actually wants to be the person
that gets you 3,000 hit over.
Was that ever a discrepancy?
Was people like
purposely walking you?
No, I wouldn't.
You know, I wouldn't
necessarily say that
because you can't.
It's tough to walk someone
over and over and over
and over again. Look, you talk about Aaron. It's hitting home runs, man and over and over and over again.
Look, you talk about Aaron, it's hitting home runs, man.
That's different than getting hit.
You know, it's completely different.
So, no, I wouldn't say I looked at it as people were trying to pitch around me.
I wouldn't say that.
You didn't think they was the –
They definitely didn't want you to get that garlic bread.
God damn it.
Yeah, yeah.
So, that's that. Thank you. God damn it. We need that. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah.
That's that.
That's that.
Thank you.
Okay.
This is great.
This is great.
I got mad notes, though.
Because you got seven parts of this beautiful documentary.
And, again, I really, really appreciate, like, you holding down my city.
It was crazy because some of the best years in hip hop
was when the Yankees was winning.
You were the Yankees
and you going up.
But you know what though?
It was the rise of New York.
It was.
Think about it.
All happening at the same time.
You know?
So we're all connected.
Yeah, no, no.
That's crazy.
Oh, man.
Okay, damn.
Oh, did he name you the prince? Because he's crazy. Oh, man. Okay, okay, damn. Oh, Diddy named you the prince because he said that.
Evidently.
They was calling you the king of New York and Diddy said, uh-uh.
That's a rumor.
That's a rumor.
That's a rumor.
It's in your documentary, though.
Yeah, I know.
Is that funny?
That's a rumor.
It is, yeah, it is.
But, you know, look.
Did you hang out with Big?
I didn't, no, no, no.
You never got to meet Big?
No, never.
Never met him.
No.
That was right before I got there.
How about Punt?
No.
Joe, yeah, but not Punt, no.
Wow.
Damn, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Holy shit.
Okay, so down to the 96 World Series.
This is against Boston again?
No, no, not Atlanta.
Atlanta.
This is Atlanta.
Describe what was going on at that moment.
The way I always looked at sports, right?
Baseball.
Actually, anything.
Every single day,
you have an opportunity to win a game.
I treated a spring
training game the exact same as
a seventh game of a World Series.
So once you get into that
situation, you don't change anything.
So we had lost two games,
and it was like, okay,
win game three. You win game, okay, win game three.
You win game three, you win game four.
And then we won four in a row to win the World Series.
So I just don't think, I think sometimes, you know, my biggest thing in life that makes me most uncomfortable is being unprepared.
And that's in anything.
If you're unprepared, you hear athletes talk about game speeds up, slows down. Well, it slows down when you're prepared, speeds up when you're unprepared. And that's in anything. If you're unprepared, you hear athletes talk about game speeds up,
slows down.
Well, it slows down
when you're prepared,
speeds up when you're unprepared.
Right?
So every time you're
in a situation,
I've already gone through it
in my head.
And if you have the same
approach to a spring training game
as you do a World Series game,
nothing changes.
That's amazing, by the way.
But in 1998, the Baltimore fight.
You remember?
Man, we've been in, we've gone from 92 to 98 to 2014.
Where you at now?
98?
You're fighting 98?
Which fight is this?
The Baltimore fight.
Okay.
You remember?
With Straw?
Yeah, with Straw? Yeah, yeah. I remember. The Baltimore fight. Okay. You remember? With Straw? Yeah, with Straw?
Yeah, yeah.
I remember.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Were the Yankees bullies?
No, we weren't bullies.
But you couldn't bully us.
That's right.
Right?
I think is the best way to put it.
We weren't bullies.
They're from the Bronx, man.
There's some noise for that. This is the Bronx, man. Some bullies. It's from the Bronx, man. It's a noise for that.
It's from the Bronx, man.
It's the bullies.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah, because, I mean,
I'm going to tell you something
that hit me in a documentary, right?
And it was the only time I was like,
what?
Because I didn't think that you
would ever go through something like this.
I remember me meeting with Leo Combs,
and Leo Combs, I had a contract with him,
and Leo Combs told me,
I said, I got more money, an offer over here.
And Leo Combs said, but this is Def Jam.
You're going to sell more with me.
So I don't care who gives you another offer.
The Yankees are the shit.
And I didn't know and i didn't know i didn't know def jam was biting off for the yankees so when i like actually said that they was like oh
and then that was their explanation you with the yankees bitch so i said oh
real talk so i said said, oh, shit.
So it's like, damn, they almost make you pay less to be with the winning team.
Makes sense, though.
And because I remember me seeing that and they saying to you, well, go ahead.
You can go shop, shop, shop.
I remember that. I think I single-handedly seen your face expressions.
I seen you change from that moment
because I felt like you was loyal
to our organization
and then that organization
was just business-wise to you.
Did you feel like that at that time?
Well, first of all,
let me preface it with,
I'm going to just give you my thoughts
of during the time.
Right, during the time.
During the time.
Yeah, during that time, yes.
Because now being in another side of the, everyone
always wants to say, yo, you're on the other side.
I look at it as another side of the sport,
right? So I understand
why certain decisions are made.
During the time, like I said
in the documentary, when I was a free agent,
I was only a free agent once in my career.
And right when I,
World Series is over, you can be a free agent.
I went and met with our owner and GM, team president, my agent.
And I said, look, verbatim, I'm not going anywhere.
Right.
Not going anywhere.
I said, I told my agent, I probably shouldn't do this in negotiations.
I told my agent, if any other team calls, tell them I'm not interested.
Treat me fairly.
Treat me fairly.
Don't make it public
Right
Only thing I ask
And then they made it public
And then they made it public
Yeah
Was that the kids
Or was that the boss?
No that was
Front office
Was the boss still around
At that time?
No
No
Well he
Yeah
No
I actually
When I saw that
I was like
Cause it
It resembled something
That I had just Went through And I was like I didn't And, I was like, because it resembled something that I had just went through.
And I was like, I didn't.
And then I was like, damn, this New York is the Yankees is definitely.
I was like, damn, they actually, they actually is foul.
But because you know.
It was a business.
You know, I get it's a business, man.
But it's a business.
But, but, you know, you're always here in sports.
You're playing for another team.
Yeah, but no, no, no.
I wasn't going anywhere.
I said I wasn't going anywhere.
I told you.
That's fine.
I told you I'm not going anywhere.
But, you know, it goes back to, like I said in the documentary,
loyalty one way is stupidity.
Exactly.
You know what I mean?
I got that in my, you know, look, I'm going to just show you in my notes.
Loyalty one way is stupid.
I was going there.
You stopped talking about interviews.
Yeah, so it's, man, I told him I wasn't going anywhere.
I wasn't going to go anywhere, regardless of what happened.
I'm beyond that.
Like I said before, we're talking about other situations.
I have no friction whatsoever.
I understand there's different sizes of the business.
I really do.
I get that now even more so than when I played.
Did you get that more that you're an owner,
when you became an owner,
that you understand their position?
Yeah, I understand.
You know, as a player, it's right now.
It's always right now.
When you're talking about ownership, front office,
you're thinking three, four, five, six, seven years down the road.
You have to take that in
consideration. As an athlete,
it's like, this is who I am today, this is who
I'm going to be next year, this is who I'm going to be ten years
from now. You never think you're going to go
the other direction. And you never
think your organization is not going to appreciate
you to the extent, like,
when I heard
that story, I was just like,
because I didn't remember, I was like, nah, there's no way that that happened. And then I'm sitting back, sitting back, I was heard that story, I was just like, because I didn't remember.
I was like, nah, there's no way that that happened.
And then I'm sitting back, sitting back.
I was like, yeah, this actually happened.
Yeah, but I think, you know, at the time you think, oh, maybe they're not, they don't appreciate you.
Right.
But now it wasn't a, they don't appreciate you.
I never thought that they, I shouldn't say never thought.
I don't think now that they didn't appreciate me.
They always appreciated me,
but it was a business decision.
Yeah, that's crazy.
As much as you can be loyal
to an organization
and give them your loyalty,
it's still something that can...
That's in life though, man.
It's not just the organization.
It's in this life.
Yeah, you're right.
It's, oh man,
like, I ain't gonna lie.
That was a deep... Me watching that because I'm's, oh, man. Like, I ain't going to lie. That was a deep,
me watching that
because I'm like,
damn, I went through it.
I just had somebody
sit down with me
and tell me that
you are here.
This is where you at.
You can't,
and guess what?
Just like you,
I stay with them.
Hey, look at you now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yes, man.
Leo Cole, I'm going to be honest with you.
You were right.
He was right.
He was right.
I sold more records with him.
They put me on tour.
They did me everything that they did.
But at the time, I felt unappreciated.
I felt like, wait, if somebody else is offering me this over here, why?
Y'all ain't doing it.
And I already made you plaques.
I already made you, Rich.
What he was telling you was,
that was the equivalent of you playing
for the Arizona Diamondbacks.
Yeah.
Damn, people in Arizona gonna come at you for that.
I'm not going over there.
I'm cool.
I didn't say nothing.
He didn't.
He didn't say it, I'm saying it.
He didn't say it, you should've won that.
Oh, man.
I'ma take a little piece of garlic bread,
I'ma throw that out there.
Yo, so.
What, what? You laughing at me? Definitely out there. Yo, so. What? What?
You laughing at me? Definitely. God damn it, you're playing with this guy? Definitely.
He got carbozled at this time. But wait, but just like the music business changed, has the game changed in your eyes since you played? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. It's all analytics.
Right. You know, it's all, you know, analytics have taken over the game.
I always think anytime you make a decision, you want to have as much information as you possibly can, right?
Right.
If you say no to that, then you're not doing your job.
But I also think you can't measure everything.
You know, Mr. Torrey, Joe Torrey used always say, you can't measure a person's heartbeat.
People have heartbeats.
You can't necessarily just take a player from Milwaukee and plug him into New York and think the same thing's going to happen.
There's more pressures, you know.
You have to get to know people.
And so analytics can't measure everything.
And I think the game has gotten very, very analytical.
What's your favorite moment as a Yankee?
Besides your last game?
96, 98, 99, 2000, 2009.
Every time you win.
World Series.
Every time you win.
Every time you win.
Wasn't ready.
That's a lot of favorite times.
You had nine.
Nah, man.
I ain't going to lie to you, man.
You're a class act, man.
Thank you.
They don't make many people like you.
I remember me talking to Mike Tyson, and Mike Tyson said,
and I said, Mike Tyson, you're one of the greats.
And Mike Tyson said, please don't call me a great.
And I said, why?
And Tyson said, because most great people aren't good people.
And it fucked me up.
But I'm going to tell you to your face,
man to man,
you're a great person. That's a great person.
Thank you.
Likewise.
I fuck with you.
You're a very honorable, respectful person
and you're very humble.
But we going to be cocky for you
you deserve your flowers you deserve everything um I really like like like I
said I watched that community three times so I had to go back because like I said
um did I say her name earlier?
The one who makes Chi-Town.
And then she said she cried, so I wanted to figure out where she cried,
and I figured out why she cried, even if it was because she was a White Sox fan or if she was whatever.
It's because she got to witness one of the greatest players of all time
be the greatest.
Oh, thank you.
I know you're humble i know that but um that's what we is that's why we're so excited about this
this interview um that's why we're so excited to be here i think every individual here we were so
he's like the captain coming like it was like and and like like we were saying it like you're a mafia boss. It was like, the cat comes, boss.
And we want to give your flowers to your face because you truly, indeed, deserve it.
You're truly, indeed, an icon.
You're a legend.
And you hold yourself as such.
And we appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
Who you are and what you're doing.
And we're going to wear the greatness.
Greatness wins. Greatness wins. All goddamn day. Let me know what you think. and we're going to wear the greatness. Greatness wins.
Greatness wins.
All goddamn day.
Let me know what you think.
Of course.
Yes, yes, yes.
Hell yeah.
We love it.
That's what we think.
And you know,
we're at the legendary
famous Carbone's.
One of my favorite restaurants
in the world.
I know they got my credit card
on file.
I've used it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just want to have a derry
coming on me. You know what I mean? it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just whenever Derrick comes on, man.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
But you know, I just wanted to give you
your applause because you sincerely,
you ain't had to do this.
I appreciate it, bro, no.
You could have done anything you've
been wanting to do in the world, but you here with us.
And this means a lot.
To everybody here.
Yeah, to everyone.
You know.
You got people flying in over here.
Yeah, you got people flying in.
This guy drove me crazy.
Yeah, it's a really big thing.
He was calling me.
He flew out.
He was calling me.
He was calling me.
Yo, I don't know if it's going to happen.
I said, yo, that's the captain.
You got to relax.
That's a different type of celebrity.
They give me different days.
I'm not sure.
And I would call him.
He said, I don't give a fuck.
He said, I don't care if you want to interview him in Y Playland.
And Great Adventures on the screen machine.
And I'm like, man, I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going give a fuck. Just take it. I don't care if you want to interview him in Wild Playland.
Great Avengers on the screen machine.
As they're going, and you can't even hear him.
He's the captain.
You have to go with it.
And I said, I did.
And listen, we are appreciative.
Yes, we did.
Yes, we are appreciative because this means the world to us, man.
You're really an honorable God, man.
Thank you.
You're really one of those, the greats that
is a great. Thanks for having me. It can't be
six more years before you have me back now.
Yeah, no, no, no. Anytime you want to promote anything,
whatever you want to promote, I ain't gonna lie.
Y'all ain't gonna hit this garlic bread.
Y'all actually told me to hit this garlic bread.
I'm gonna call, you know, this bread
going down pretty soon.
Good dang garlic. I ain't gonna lie to you.
This shit right here is wicked.
Are you a foodie? I am. This is my. Put that in garlic. I ain't going to lie to you. This shit right here is wicked. Are you a foodie?
I'm far the line.
I am.
This is my favorite restaurant in New York.
Right.
And obviously down here.
Okay.
And I seen you here.
And I seen you at ZZ's as well.
Ah, yes.
Yes.
So we Carbone.
That's Carbone Fab.
Yes.
Major food group.
Major food group.
You on it.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah.
One thing about you that is remarkable.
I'm looking at the old footage,
you never really had security.
No.
Why not?
Because the town protected you?
No, I just, man, it's just,
I think it draws attention to you, man.
Sometimes you're right.
Man, I just, well, I came here by myself.
We had nobody here with me.
No, you good. You know?
I knew I got you. I knew I got you. You got the y'all. I know I by myself. We had nobody here with me. No, you good. I knew I got you.
I knew I got you.
You're the guy.
I know I got you.
I know I got you.
No, I just never had it.
Right.
But other baseball players have security?
Yeah, maybe.
Was there any point that you never felt threatened at no point?
Like, even in Boston?
I stayed in my room a lot. Right.. You got to know when you're moving around and when you should
stay home.
One of my close friends of mine, his name is City Boy D. He's from Boston. And the minute
I say, I say, yo, we got Derek Jeter on Dream Chance. He's like, yo, I didn't even know,
but I just grew up hating it. I was like, what? He's like, yo, I didn't even know, but I just grew up hating it. I was like, what?
He's like, yo, now I feel like he's the coolest guy in the world.
But at one point, you was being born so much that it couldn't have been safe for you going on.
We talk about generational fans.
You learn.
You grow up.
You hate the Yankees, man.
For no reason.
Yeah, you just hate them.
In New York, you hate Boston.
It's just, I don't
think that ever is going to change.
God damn it, man. Holy moly guacamole.
I ain't going to lie. I got more
questions, but... I'll come back.
That'll bring me back.
Yeah, I feel like, yeah, because I feel like this hungry.
Yeah, that's it.
Before we go, Cap,
what was going through your mind
when you did the shuffle out
the home plate?
You know, you talk about, we're talking about being prepared.
That was where I was supposed to be.
I was supposed to throw it to third base.
I'm not supposed to.
But I said it before, you know, I've joked about it before,
about the Giambi family not being so fat.
Jeremy, unfortunately, passed away recently.
Bless his soul.
Yeah, but, you know, it's just taking into consideration everything that's going on.
So I knew we had a chance to get him.
So it's just one of those plays that you won't see it happen again.
Ever.
Everything aligned, you know.
Ever.
I don't think he—you don't know what I'm talking about.
No, I definitely don't.
What you talking about?
It was interesting, though.
Oh, okay, okay, okay. That's in the documentary, too. Yeah. Nobody do I definitely don't. What you talking about? It was interesting, though. Oh, okay, okay, okay.
That's in the documentary, too.
Yeah.
Nobody taught baseball like this.
It was on the line for that,
but it worked.
It worked.
Oh, yeah.
That's in the documentary.
That's definitely in the documentary.
I ain't gonna lie.
I love that documentary.
I see it.
I see it.
No, no, no, no, no.
I be telling people,
I'm like this.
Watch it.
You need to get your life together.
Watch it.
Listen, listen, listen. Because it's so much, no, no, no, no, no. I be telling people, I'm like this. You need to get your life together. I'm telling people, listen, listen, listen.
Because it's so much, like, even with the 9-11 part.
Yeah.
Like, I didn't realize how much my city got put together
and how much it was important for the Yankees to play after 9-11.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's where you got Mr. November from.
Yeah.
And we didn't know at the time.
The way you look at it, we're playing a game,
man. Game doesn't mean anything, but.
Right. It did, man.
Yeah, it did. You know, you're giving people something to cheer for for a few hours a day,
man, when they really had nothing to cheer for.
And that's what's crazy. We were just talking before we walked in. I had a bunch of my Miami
boys and I had a bunch of, you know, and I had a bunch of New York boys,
and we were just all sitting there.
And they was like, yo, it was big for New York.
And I was like, no.
Big for the world.
That moment was like.
For the world, for the country.
I think they say the Dallas Cowboys is like America's team,
but the Yankees is really America's team.
Like, I've been to Dusseldorf, Germany.
I've been to, you know, Yugoslavia.
I've been to Russia, where people will have a hat on.
And I would ask them, I would ask them,
yo, you wearing that because of Jay-Z?
They're like, no, I'm wearing this because I'm a Yankee fan.
He's right. In Russia, we saw it.
I'm like, yo, you're from Germany.
They're like, they're looking at me like, that's racist.
Like, I can be fromany and be a yankee
fan and i was like holy shit that's what i you know when you when you travel abroad you're like
wow this is not like someone said it earlier they was like it's a new york thing and i was like no
i actually witnessed this like i've been all over the world where they wearing a yankee fan
a yankee excuse me a yankee hat and they're like i'm a yankee fan, excuse me, a Yankee hat and they're like, I'm a Yankee fan. You're thinking like they got it through hip hop
but nah. It's a symbol.
Yeah, it definitely is.
It definitely is. I'm drinking all
the red wine. Y'all ain't nobody helping me.
Nobody helping. How are you doing?
He offered me some.
I'm in.
I'm in.
I'm out.
It looks like you ain't take that shot, sir.
Damn.
Come on, for the Bronx.
All that Bronx shit.
That Bronx shit.
For the Bronx.
Take the shot.
Take the shot.
Holy shit.
Oh, man.
KTS Sports, you got anything?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, yeah, definitely.
I want to say, Dita, you know, I follow you, you know, as far as an athlete, because I wasn't a Yankee fan.
Yeah, he's from Miami.
Let's just be clear.
I'm from New Jersey, as such as yourself.
You was born in a Pac-19 township.
So I want to say, I want to claim you as a Jersey person, bro.
Even though you went to Michigan.
But for me, I like what athletes do after their season, after their career, when they turn to the community.
And turn to foundation, it's
really big. You mentioned it earlier,
but I want you to emphasize on how that
became something important to you.
Yeah, we started,
I was talking about Dave Winfield, and I
told my parents,
I want to start my own foundation. My dad
was a drug and alcohol abuse counselor.
So we were in Detroit, in a hotel room
in Detroit, having pizza, and I told my dad, I said in Detroit in a hotel room in Detroit having pizza.
And I told my dad, I said, look, I want to start my own foundation. And like anything throughout my
life, they said, if you're serious about it, we'll support you. And I said, yeah, I'm serious about
it. I want you to help me run it. So my dad quit his private practice. We started the foundation.
Wow. It's based in West Michigan area where I grew up, New York area, obviously, where I used to work and down in Florida.
And it's to promote healthy lifestyles, academic excellence.
One of our signature programs is our leadership programs called Jeter's Leaders.
They're kids who are role models not only in their schools, but in their community.
And we promote social change.
And we want our kids to realize that their voices are powerful at a young age.
And when they get older, they're going to be very comfortable using those voices.
We've given back north of $35 million now in the 20, this is the 26th year. And couldn't be more proud
of it. We've had a lot of support from the communities, from a lot of my partners, you know,
throughout my career, every marketing deal I did, they had to give to my foundation.
And I think people talk about legacy. Everyone wants to have a legacy for their career.
Right.
But I think the most important legacy you can leave
is what you do to impact other people's lives.
And it's always been important to me and my family,
and we're going to continue doing that.
So thanks for asking.
All right.
Appreciate it.
That's awesome.
Thank you.
I got, you know know my notes
Mr. Lee just
texted me
what about his watch
the Daytona Rose Gold
it's a gift from my wife man
got a good wife man
let me see the Daytona Rose Gold
yes Daytona Rose Gold
black face yes your wife you guys don't miss anything around here Yeah, look. Let me see the Daytona Rose Gold. Yes. Yes, Daytona Rose Gold, blackface.
Yes, your wife.
You guys don't miss anything around here, huh?
Yes, yes.
All these guys.
These guys are all nice.
Yeah, that was the Dominican who texted me that.
Oh, my God.
Holy moly guacamole.
That's not racist, though.
I mean, you are Dominican.
I mean, I actually had the 1996, the Joe Torrey era.
And we spoke about that earlier.
That's not the same steroids era.
That's different.
No.
Joe Torrey era.
That's the coach.
Joe Torrey is the coach.
Yeah, I'm bugging.
I'm bugging.
Okay, I fucked up.
Question.
Justin, Derek, I got to tell you, I'm a lifelong Yankee fan.
I felt bad for the hitman.
Donnie?
When he retired and you guys wanted the next season.
Did you feel the weight?
Did you feel like, damn, he should have been here for this?
We learned a lot from Donnie, you know?
Donnie played a long career, never went to the postseason except for 1995 and that was our first year
that's about Don Matley
yeah that was our first year
coming up
he had the motorcycle
with mustache
and then
you know
I learned a lot from Donnie
and
how you carry yourself
you know
how you play the game
how you're a professional
and
yeah
so you feel bad
you know
it just goes to show you
I mean
you gotta be in the right place at the right time that's the key to it yeah Yeah, so you feel bad. You know, it just goes to show you, I mean,
you got to be in the right place at the right time, too.
That's the key to it.
Yeah.
Didn't you hire him or work with him?
He was here, yeah. Donnie was the manager here in Miami when we got here.
And so my entire time here was the manager.
And you went zero and five in your first major league game?
0 for 5, yeah.
Yeah.
I thought they were going to send me down after one game.
I did.
My 20-year career, every time I took the field,
I thought I was playing to keep my job.
Hello.
Really?
That's crazy.
Yeah, every time, man.
That's crazy, though.
I knew every time we drafted a shortstop,
I knew what they were doing.
I had always felt as though I was trying to keep my job.
And you should.
You never get comfortable, man.
You should never get comfortable.
So the A-Rod thing had to, like, I know we spoke on it earlier,
but he was a shortstop.
And then for the Yankees to acquire him,
did he downgrade to take third base?
Or that was a decision that y'all guys came up with?
Did he call you?
I wasn't a part of the decision-making process, you know?
But that was the agreement before he came, prior to him coming.
That he's going to play third.
He's going to play third, yeah.
Right.
And you were cool with that?
Keep it real.
I'm not knocking you now, but back then.
Come on, you ain't going to stop him.
Yeah, man.
No, I mean, no.
I mean, look, he's going to help us win.
Like, ultimately, I don't care what your feelings are about any particular person you play with.
If you're there to win, I have no problems with you.
None whatsoever.
He helped us win in 2009.
He did, yeah.
Is there any player that you played with that didn't like personally, but you still...
Of course.
A lot of them.
A lot of people deal with it.
Yeah, man, there's a lot of them a lot of people deal with this yeah man
there's a lot of personalities
man
there's egos
the only issue
I had with people
if I felt as though
that winning
wasn't their number one priority
wow
if that's not your
number one priority
I have a problem with you
what
I'll tell you
I have a problem
I don't have to do it publicly
what
I can do it privately
I can do it one on one
you know
one thing I've said it before
athletes know when the camera's on.
All you got to do is look for the red light.
You know which camera's on you at all times.
You play long enough, you know where they're coming from.
So all you got to do is look.
And then you see a lot of times they'll go over,
athletes will go over,
and they'll start talking to a particular teammate.
They know the camera's on them.
I didn't give a damn about a camera.
I can pull you aside and talk to you individually.
You know, there's different ways you deal with personalities.
You talk about leadership.
You got to get to know the people you're leading.
You know, I said that, man.
Some people you yell and scream at, you get the best out of them.
Other guys, you got to give them a hug, right?
You can't yell at certain people in a big group.
You'll never get the best out of them.
You know, you got to pull them aside.
So, you know, you got to get to know people, man.
You really do have to get to know people.
Yo, that was awesome.
I read something.
You thought you was in trouble with the boss
when he made you the captain?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was, every offseason I'd meet with the boss, right?
We lived in Tampa.a he told me the same
thing i need you to lead the team and he said you know i don't want to hear about you being at a
birthday party till four o'clock in the morning right i don't know about you but you have one
birthday party a year that's right nothing different i guess he had said that same thing
to the media so i lived in tampa I worked out the complex every off season.
I'm leaving the complex and a particular reporter asked me,
are you doing anything different this year?
Absolutely not.
Got here in November, a couple of weeks after the season,
working out, getting ready for the season.
They turned that into, the headline was party on.
I refuse to change my party in ways to please the boss.
So I met with the boss.
We got into it, going back and forth.
I'm telling him, like I told you before, he would test his players.
You're talking about George, right?
Yeah.
I said, look, man, you started this.
You got to fix it.
He's yelling at me.
We're going back and forth.
We didn't speak for a few weeks.
I dislocated my shoulder.
Yep.
I was in Tampa working out to rehab.
That's when we filmed this visa
commercial with me and the boss
going through a conga line in a club.
And then I went back
to New York.
Eight weeks later,
it was Hideki Matsui's
first year, player coming from
Japan. He lived in my building.
The next day off, I invite all my
teammates over for dinner.
We go out to a club in New York.
Next day, I'm on the front page of the paper.
It says it's 4 a.m. and Derek's out in the club. Picture me.
Now, the article doesn't mention
any of the 12 teammates that I was with.
It was just me.
Get a phone call saying the boss
wants to speak to you. Damn, I'm
in trouble. And that's when he named me the captain.
So you're probably like, this guy just doesn't give a shit what I say.
He's going to do whatever he wants, man.
So, yeah, that's when he named me captain.
But it worked out.
I thought I was in trouble, yeah.
It worked the fuck out.
Holy shit.
This is so great shit.
Any future plans to own another team?
Shit.
You got some money for me?
Yeah.
It looked like you didn't enjoy it.
You know what it felt like to me
when you became the owner?
It's like, you ever see the people
that's on the sidelines
and they be like, yo, yo, yo,
and then they actually get to play in the game?
And it felt like once you've tasted some ownership, I felt like you didn't like it.
I'm an outsider looking in.
Look, I enjoyed building a team.
I did.
I enjoyed building.
I didn't enjoy losing.
Right.
You know, I never played on a team that had a losing record in 20 years.
We never lost.
Right.
I shouldn't say we never lost. We never had a losing record in 20 years. We never lost. I shouldn't say we never lost.
We never had a losing record.
So we lost quite a bit here in the few years,
but you got to have everyone on the same page, man.
I guess it's the best way to put it.
Everyone's got to be on the same page.
If not, it's just not going to work.
So, no, I don't see myself.
You didn't like ownership?
I didn't like how it ended up.
Okay.
Did you have some of the balls in you as an owner?
In terms of expectations, yeah, but I gave the players their space.
You know, I gave them their space.
The clubhouse, that's your space.
Yeah.
You know, because I knew as a player, you don't want to
see members of the front office in the clubhouse.
Get out of here.
You say, get out of here. You're not supposed to be here.
So I gave them their space.
So you understood
the beef that you had
with George back then. Did it make you
understood that more
when you became the owner?
Yeah, but I wouldn't necessarily
say we had
beef. Right.
Because we had the same mindset.
We had the same mindset.
So I didn't have
any issues with him.
Like I said, my only issues during my
career and still to this day is
if people don't expect
excellence and you're not willing to
do what it takes to be successful right i have a problem with you um if that's not the case i really
do taking a shot for that for no reason
where's the serac at at? God damn it.
Oh, you got the Ciroc?
Oh, my God.
Okay, we out here.
Parmesan, Caesar salad.
You know what's funny is that, you know, Jared.
Yes.
Jared calls working at Carbone, playing like the Yankees.
Hello.
Yeah.
Nobody going to clap on your back when you hit a home run because that's the expectation. You ain't supposed to.
That's the expectation.
Hello.
Is that bad or a good thing?
That's a good thing.
That's a good thing, right? That's a good thing. That's a good thing, right?
That's a good thing.
You don't want people to expect you to be a failure.
Right.
It's crazy because we just had Kevin Hart, Shaq, and now we got the captain.
And no one has called me and said, good job.
Ain't coming off a win.
And we just won a BET award.
By the way, you're talking to award winners.
Yeah.
But at first, I felt it.
I was like, damn, no one called me to congratulate me.
But then I said, let me look at it from the bright side.
They expect that from me already.
Yeah, yeah.
I killed that?
I killed that?
Did I kill that?
You guys can all clap, motherfucker.
Get y'all light together.
Get y'all light together.
That's real.
More people to have lights.
Except Mario's a mess now.
Yeah, yeah.
He's not here.
No, he's not.
He was born.
He had no choice.
Yeah, he had no choice.
Like how you induced that earlier.
It's his parents' failure.
What?
Crazy shot.
We edited that out.
We edited that out.
I know for that brief time where they said,
go shop your deal or shop.
Did you think that after that I was told to you?
Because I know you said
prior to them
you didn't want to
negotiate with any other team,
but
after they said to you,
well,
well,
well,
go, go,
go shop your shit.
Was there any team
that did reach out to you?
I don't know.
I didn't want to hear about it.
You really was,
that's,
I don't want to,
I don't want to know.
That's a different type of loyalty.
Like,
you really didn't even, so you told your agent, because I'm sure Milwaukee, I don't want to know that's a different type of loyalty like you really didn't even
so you told your agent
cause I'm sure Milwaukee
I don't know
I really don't
I don't know if anyone was interested
I really don't
no no no
the whole fucking
I just told him
I don't want to hear about it
so
yeah they
oh I'm taking a shot for you
Zalab
yo that's real
you have to turn these cameras off man
oh yeah take a lot of shots oh my god Salud man this is to you Yo, that's real. You have to turn these cameras off, man. Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God.
Salud, man.
This is to you.
Loyalty.
Realness.
And happiness.
Thank you.
I see you happy.
Big up to your lovely wife, your children.
Thank you.
Every time I see you out and about, you are with them.
I'm usually with my wife, too.
She has something to do.
But she wants to be here.
She's a big Derrick Jeter fan,
big Yankee fan.
Her father,
she didn't have no choice.
Her father forced her
to be in a Yankee fan.
So,
so to you, my brother.
Continue prosperity.
Thank you.
Thanks for having me.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Thank you all.
Thank you.
Take another picture.
Yeah, because
for real, you didn't have to do this.
So you coming out tonight,
it really boosted my morale.
You're making me a better leader.
You're making me the captain.
Can you say I'm the captain?
Yeah, you are.
Everyone's a captain of their own ship.
You did not say I'm the captain.
He keep it 100%.
My oldest, my oldest, my five-year-old told me the other day, she said, Daddy, I'm the captain.
And I don't talk to her about it.
But we went out to get coffee, and like, and it's just me and her.
So I got to try to take each one of them by themselves.
They love to be by themselves. So we're sitting outside having coffee, and in the just me and her. So I got to try to take each one of them by themselves. They love to be by themselves.
So we're sitting outside
having coffee
and in the span of like
five minutes,
three people went by
like,
what's up, Cap?
What's up, Captain?
And Captain,
she's like,
Daddy,
why are they calling you
the Captain?
I tried to explain it to her
and then later in the day,
she said,
Daddy,
I'm the Captain.
I'm the Captain.
I said,
you're right.
You're right.
It's a good thing
that you dropped me good. Yo, thank you so It's good to see you. It's a drop.
It'll be good.
Yo, thank you so much once again, my brother.
I really appreciate it.
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