Drink Champs - Episode 34 w/ Dame Dash

Episode Date: September 9, 2016

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys drink it up with hip hop mogul Dame Dash. The guys discuss N.O.R.E. and Dame Dash's long history of working together through music an...d films, and working together in the future. Dame also discusses his current projects and his feelings about stepping away from the music industry. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:33 Cheers. Yeah, what's up, y'all? What's going on, brothers? Dream Chats Radio. He's a legendary Queens rapper. Hey, Hank Sangreed, it's your boy N.O.R.E. He's a Miami hip-hop pioneer. What up, it's DJ legendary Queens rapper. Hey, Hank Sangria, this is your boy N-O-R-E. He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What up,
Starting point is 00:02:47 it's DJ E-F-N. Together, they drink it up with some of the biggest players in music and sports. You know what I mean? The most professional, unprofessional podcast, and your number one source for drunk facts. This is Drinks Champion Radio,
Starting point is 00:03:00 where every day is New Year's Eve. Let's go. Hey, Hank Sangria, hope you're savvy This your boy N.O.R.E What up, it's DJ EFN And it's Drink Chance motherfucking podcast Make some noise DJ EFN Yes, sir
Starting point is 00:03:19 The one thing that we like to do Is please our fans Yes, sir And this is We interviewed a guest earlier Yo, sir. And this is, we interviewed a guest earlier. Whoever ringer that is, man. Foul. Take your fucking ringer off. Is that City Boy D?
Starting point is 00:03:31 Is he your ringer? All right. You just looked at guilty. I'm sorry. City Boy D, big him up again. Yeah, I'm really big him up again. All right. But one of these guests, the guest that we have right now, we interviewed another guest.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Right. And these two people As the most requested guests Since the beginning Since the beginning Right now we gotta do Who I personally seen Take a company
Starting point is 00:03:54 From nothing Went and got the buggy Y'all Benz Wrapped it Niggas never seen A Benz wrapped Back then Took a company Made it multi-million dollar worth Benz. Wrapped it. Niggas never seen a Benz wrapped back then.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Took a company. Made it multi-million dollar worth. Took something. Niggas was wearing Iceberg. And we stopped wearing Iceberg. Because they made clothes that said, fuck that. The nigga bought Pokeds for a couple years. How the fuck is that?
Starting point is 00:04:26 Nigga bought the whole company. God damn it. He made movies. He personally put me in five movies. If it wasn't for him, listen, I didn't even want to act. That nigga looked, he hung out with me one day and said, nigga, I'm putting you in a movie because you an actor. I said, for real?
Starting point is 00:04:42 So he's the reason why you Hollywood Nori right now. I'm Hollywood Nori. He's the reason. That's not better than Hollywood Nor now. I'm Hollywood Nori. He's the reason. That's not better than Hollywood Nori. I like Hollywood Nori. And he's also one of my favorite CEOs. Even if you guys heard him and you've seen him flip on people, if you take away the yelling and just take away his words, everything that he said meant what we need and what we want as artists.
Starting point is 00:05:05 And since he's been out the game, we have not seen it. There's only one other person I could give that love to, like I give it to him, and that's Irv Gotti. And since these two people have been out the game, the game is not the same. And before you finish, before you finish, we've had a lot of legendary rappers. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Now we've got a legendary exec. First exec. Mogul. CEO. Thank you. Everybody make some we got a legendary exec. This our first exec CEO. Thank you. Everybody make some fucking noise. Hell yeah. For not only a person I look up to,
Starting point is 00:05:33 not only my friend, but a person I consider my brother. No doubt. Dane motherfucking Dash. Let's do it. Dane Dash, I don't know how other people
Starting point is 00:05:48 look at you. I don't know how other people view you. And guess what? I don't give a fuck. Me and you both. Because I look at you
Starting point is 00:05:55 like one of the smartest people I ever met in life. Thank you, man. I appreciate that. I really do. And from the beginning,
Starting point is 00:06:04 from the first time I ever met you, you wanted to make sure everybody was rich around you. Yeah. How did you develop that model? I mean, you know, when we was coming up, that's what our thing was. It was the circle of success. Right. And it meant make all your friends rich, especially like a guy like me. I like to spend mine or invest it as I'm inspired.
Starting point is 00:06:23 But if I'm broke and all my friends got money, all of them, all I got to do is take a little from each of them and I'm rich again and it ain't got to hurt. So it's like, you know, it always made sense to keep your friends rich. That's basically what the DNA of Rockefeller was. And that's why it was received so positively. You know what I'm saying? Because it was always about making us all rich.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Like, you come up to the club, there's one car and 20 niggas walking in the party. Or they're your friends and they taking the bus or the train or Uber. You know, that's one thing. It doesn't look that great. But when all 20 of your friends pulls up in a nice, equally expensive car. Or like, let's say, when you go in the club and one guy's buying all the drinks, that costs a lot. But when everybody can afford a bottle, you Ten dudes Ten bottles It's just one bottle Like last night
Starting point is 00:07:06 We went to the club It's just like It's like copping You know When you cop together You get them cheaper Right You understand what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:07:12 Same shit God damn it Let's make some noise For copping God damn it You buy it in bulk You buy it in bulk Dame Dash
Starting point is 00:07:21 Like you know In the street You get with your homies Y'all cop together You're getting them cheaper Just so you know Dame Dash From the minute we started Drink Champs
Starting point is 00:07:28 And you see I sent you a clip And you sent me your Your alcohol Had it from day one And we kept it on the table I see it You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:07:36 I'm the repost master That's right That's right I'm a repost And let me pick up SunnyDBT Which is Instagram Is Mr. Super Slime Which is used to be yours
Starting point is 00:07:43 Used to be mine And he loves He loves the whiskey. So let's get into that. Why did, because you did Armadale at first. Which I have, remember, I have one of the first, I have one of the bottles. I used to do Rockefeller Marketing in Miami. So I have that one bottle left in my crib.
Starting point is 00:08:00 So let's, why, let's just bring it from the beginning. You guys were selling millions of records. It's all good. Right. But you guys ventured out and got alcohol, vodka.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Well, what happened was Vivendi had bought Universal. Okay, now for people that stupid like me. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Because I just found this out and Vivendi is the people who own Universal and that's also the people that own all the water in France? They own some alcohol. They own a lot of shit.
Starting point is 00:08:30 They was putting out, I think one of them, they own the umbrella company of a liquor. I think the family is a liquor family, whatever it was. And Biggs was like, yo, we should try to get the liquor thing going. And we drank vodka. So basically, we only wanted to sell the stuff we was using,
Starting point is 00:08:47 and we wanted to sell it exactly the way we liked it. You know what I'm saying? So it was like we might as well make it ourselves, because we're guys that are used to making things or, you know, buying in volume. You know what I'm saying? So we were like, that's your mentality, to do it yourself, to make it the way you want it and sell it. And plus it was like, damn, we could sell some liquor.
Starting point is 00:09:07 But really we was in the game to sell everything. You know what I'm saying? It was like the music was really a commercial for everything, but we went into the game looking at it like that. That's what people don't understand. No artist at that point had their own liquor, right? Was y'all the first people who had liquor? And clothing, I think, too. We weren't the first with the clothes.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Like Russell did it. Oh, yeah. He turned into an artist. Put it like this. He's an artist. Right, right. Put it like this. Put it like this. The thing is, when you think Rockefeller, you think Jay-Z. But when I think Rockefeller, I'm thinking Cam, Kanye, M.O.P.
Starting point is 00:09:38 But Cam came later, though. Noriega. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Let's make some noise for me being a part of Rockefeller. And I fought for that. That's right. No The Rock and Roll And I fought for that That's right No no Listen
Starting point is 00:09:48 Let me tell you something I'm going to tell you My most memorable meeting I ever had in my life Right I had I did a Spanish record And I brung it to Def Jam
Starting point is 00:09:58 Because remember I was on Def Jam At the time I brung it to Def Jam And I said I felt bad for That you had to be on Def Jam I was writing like that.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Listen, I'm going to break it down. So look, I went to there and Dame, it was a two-way, this was back in the day. So Dame hit me and said,
Starting point is 00:10:12 you got a meeting with Def Jam tomorrow, right? And I said, yeah. And he said, He just knew this automatically though? Yeah, he already knew. Like the Illuminati shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Like, yeah, that's what people think. So he said, do me a favor, just text me when you're in the building. But he, yeah. Like, yeah, that's what people think. So he said, do me a favor. Just text me when you're in the building. But he, in my mind, just said text, but I meant two-way. It was two-way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:32 So I two-wayed you. I walked up, right? And then I'm in a meeting with Kevin Lyles. And then you walk in a joint. In my mind, it was smoke. Like when you kicked in the door. Like, I don't even think you kicked in the door. But in my mind, that's how it happened. You kicked in the door. And then it was smoke Like when you kicked in the door Like I don't even think you kicked in the door But in my mind that's how it happened
Starting point is 00:10:45 You kicked in the door And then it was just mad smoke And then you said Fat boy what the fuck And then I looked at myself Cause I was a little chubby You know I'm a little chubby And you were talking about Kevin Lowes
Starting point is 00:10:57 You said yo Kevin Lowes How much money did you approve Noriega's budget right Let me break it down to you So mind you He agreed to me Like 15 35 thousand
Starting point is 00:11:08 And I was good with that But I didn't know I was the number one Record in the world You walked in And you said You said You just approved
Starting point is 00:11:16 Mariah Carey's budget At 500 Yo whoever's talking Please shut the fuck up Please As a gesture So you said Yo Mariah Carey's budget is $500,000.
Starting point is 00:11:27 LL budget is such and such. Ja Rule's budget. And Norrie is paying y'all lights for two months. I'm not on Rockefeller at this time. And you just kicked it. And you made them give me $175,000. You knew what they was going to do. I have never had a CEO
Starting point is 00:11:46 fight for me before that and then fight for me after that. That was like fun. That was my pleasure. And you got nothing out of it too. You didn't ask me for a dollar. I got to make sure you didn't get robbed.
Starting point is 00:12:00 God damn it, make some noise for Dave. But Dave, how are you So smart Like how do you How did you know That Dave was about to Lowball me Well number one
Starting point is 00:12:13 They be bragging All the time You know what I'm saying So You called him Quarter water right Well I'm not Again I
Starting point is 00:12:19 You know it was a long time ago So I'ma just say this Well we wanna know The quarter water shit Oh You wanna know Why I called him The quarter water
Starting point is 00:12:24 Yeah please Because They So Def Jam time ago, so I'm going to just say this. Well, we want to know the quarter water shit. You want to know why I call them the quarter water? Yeah, please. Because they, so Def Jam didn't acquire half of Rockefeller. Universal did. And Def Jam got 25%. And Universal had the other
Starting point is 00:12:39 25%. So they only owned a quarter. 25%. That's the quarter water. Yeah, and we own 50 percent. And the thing, I said it, I'm like, yo, you know, y'all bust down that 50. We don't. Y'all only own a quarter. You a quarter water.
Starting point is 00:12:56 That's why I called them a quarter water. Wow. I knew that, but I needed to break it down. I needed to break it down I needed him To break it down Because you know Again I don't want To diss him
Starting point is 00:13:07 It should have been So long ago But it would be funny To me how they Would be fronting And people would be Believing it You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:13:12 You know like You on the block And you know this kid Is mad soft He gets punked all day But he goes on Another block And pretends he's
Starting point is 00:13:20 Mad hard And you just Watching this nigga Laughing like Oh My friend Biz He's a pussy everywhere else
Starting point is 00:13:26 this is the whole music business this is the whole like you know I see this often you know what I'm saying so they act smarter than they are
Starting point is 00:13:33 but because I do it every day I never was an artist you know I was a businessman I'm just running numbers the math got to make sense it's just logic
Starting point is 00:13:41 you know what I'm saying so every day I'm going over the logic as a businessman like if you're a professional in something you got to do it all day every day so when you're a professional businessman you focused on there's no way you could be a businessman kind of like a real like me there's also let me just break down business right like break down business because we don't understand shit you could be a celebrity for yourself yeah and because
Starting point is 00:14:02 of your celebrity you bring attention to a product so someone will give you a piece of that product just because they're using your celebrity right and now you're an owner but you're not doing no business you just there because you famous that's a business but that's the majority of them at all that's what celebrities do they get famous so they can get paid to bring attention and awareness to products. So that's like brand ambassador. That's exactly what it is.
Starting point is 00:14:29 That's a brand ambassador. Right. But I'm the guy that got to get it clicking. I got to know how to make it. I got to know how to sell it. I got to know how to distribute it. I got to know how to pay people.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Right. And I got to make sure everybody get paid whether I get paid or not. Right. I got to invest, invest. I got to, you know, me now,
Starting point is 00:14:42 because I was using their money back then. Right. But then I was like Fuck it I'd rather use my own So like Remember when
Starting point is 00:14:48 And pay them And um The uh The uh That video we did With um With Biggie And we was uh
Starting point is 00:14:55 Playing with Monopoly money I mean we was playing Monopoly with real money Dead Presidents You know we was playing With real money You understand what I'm saying Like we
Starting point is 00:15:02 We went Make some noise For Dane Flawson On that No no no No look In the 90s, we didn't have money like that. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:08 that was what... We was doing it the front. Right. But my point is, if you're doing in business, you're using other people's money, you ain't using... You're using Monopoly money.
Starting point is 00:15:17 It's not yours. You're just moving shit around. And I was feeling like I was playing Monopoly. So I was like, yo, I got to go use my own cash. Because I like the way it felt when we played Monopoly with our own money, not Monopoly money. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:15:28 I want to do my own thing. So that's a game I like to play because I do it every day. Because I do it all day. I'm a businessman. That's what I do. Every day, all day, I'm thinking business, business, business, business. I know what it's like with Monopoly money. It's a lot different with your own, but it's more fun.
Starting point is 00:15:43 It's better. So you just bung it up so i just do business the question you know you asked is why i'm good at business because i'm a businessman i'm a professional at it you ask a football player why he good or a basketball player why kobe good because he sit there and take that shot and practice a hundred times that's why joe is nice he doesn't just get nice it's his discipline so in business i'm just very disciplined i don't have the time to be playing around. That's why they be like, I'm going to ask. I just don't have time for fluff.
Starting point is 00:16:09 I need to get to the business. I need to math. And I got to get to getting my money back because somebody got to get paid or else I'm going to get sued, which you see I always do. You're patient for bullshit, yeah. You know, it's just business. My game is like the actual business. I like to flip. You understand what I'm saying? I like the way it feel to pause and get a new drug and make it flip all over again. Like these blue bottles
Starting point is 00:16:26 and these brown bottles. You know what I'm saying? Stay in my crib and stay in the bar. But I'm feeling, I'm loving the hustle of it. Like I'm doing it because I just love it. Like I'm burnt out. You know what I'm saying? I can't help it. It's the game. But also, now I'm like, I did it with other people's money. Let me see if I can do it with my own.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And it's so much more fun. You understand what I'm saying? That's why you got to do it like that. But I learned that years ago. But when you're an entrepreneur, and niggas know because they be in the street, no matter how long you hustle, no matter when you got to run or you don't, it's always a grind.
Starting point is 00:16:57 You can't never let the block just leave it alone. You on the block all day, or whatever you're doing, it's always a constant struggle. So when you choose business, you're choosing the struggle. When you're getting paid and you're leveraging celebrity and shit like that,
Starting point is 00:17:11 you're not choosing the struggle. You're doing it to get paid. You understand what I mean? There's no equity in that. But I'm just saying also the game. If you play basketball and you don't love basketball, it's torture. But most people that play basketball would do it for free. That's the
Starting point is 00:17:27 game. That's the trick. Get paid to do something that you would do for free. That's what we do. That's why Drink Tennis is working. That's why I fuck with you. That's why I fuck with you. You know I love you. You just brung up Biggie Smalls. What's a great memory you can
Starting point is 00:17:43 share with us about Biggie Smalls? Every memory with Biggie was great. Well, give us one. That very Monopoly money. You know me. I had to try him and we got into a drinking contest.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I got to get into the drinking contest. Yeah, we got into a drinking contest. You remember, excuse me, Biggie Smalls drinking contest. You was there?
Starting point is 00:18:02 No, no, no. I was definitely not there. Amsterdam. Oh, Amsterdam. You remember that day? Yeah. You tried us in the drinking contest. You there? No, no, no. I was definitely not there. But in Amsterdam, y'all tried us. You remember that day? Y'all tried us in the drinking contest. I didn't lose. No, I think it was even.
Starting point is 00:18:10 We drank all the Armadillos. Okay, I was like... And then my friend down I feel like I challenged you all around the world. All around the world? That's a fact. You built me to be a drink champ.
Starting point is 00:18:21 No, all around the world. A drink champ all around the world. We didn't battle in London? Yes, and Amsterdam. I remember you used to be in my crib up in London. We went to, yeah, all that. He's flossing. He had an indoor pool.
Starting point is 00:18:33 He had an indoor pool. This is the first time I ever seen an indoor pool in Europe. Let's make some noise for that guy. Everybody make some noise for that. Let me tell you something. Y'all was so rich, man. Listen, I know y'all rich still, still. But you, look,
Starting point is 00:18:49 Biggs told me, he said, yo, come outside. Yo, whoever talking, please. Y'all fucking us up. Whoever talking. You can go outside, you can talk as much as you want. But listen,
Starting point is 00:18:58 Biggs called me one day, he said, yo, come outside. I said, all right, cool. He said, take a trip with me. I was like, all right, bet. We pulled up in Teterboro. I said, yo, hold on, He said, take a trip with me. I was like, all right, bet. We pulled up in Teterboro. I said, yo, hold on. What the fuck is this?
Starting point is 00:19:08 I understand. I said, I don't got no clothes. I don't got no drawers. He said, slime. We buy that when we land. We get that. You land. Yo, my nigga, I ain't going to front.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Y'all was my favorite CEO. It was my nigga. We really miss y'all. Biggs, Dame Dash. We were just Harlem niggas, that's all. Let's make some noise for you folks
Starting point is 00:19:28 sitting in your barrel. God damn it. God damn it. You know, like life, everybody dances, but, you know, some people dance better than others.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Some people play ball. You can get the shot, but it's the way you look when you get the shot. You know what I mean? That's a Harlem nigga. You just trying to throw that on it.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Which was crazy. That's all. When it was like, you know, everything was breaking up, I still had to do a Rockefeller shoot somewhere, right?
Starting point is 00:19:54 And my boy, Big Mado, Big Mado, we went to the photo shoot and they only had clothes for me. And Big Mado said, I missed a dash. And I was like, damn, nigga. I said, I said, And Big Mado said, I miss Dame Dash.
Starting point is 00:20:05 And I was like, damn, nigga. I said, what happened? He said, when Dame Dash was here, he made sure everybody have clothes.
Starting point is 00:20:14 And it was something just so simple like that that you boosted my whole crew's morale. I like your crew, though. I had every piece of clothing in state property. Come on, come talk to the mic. Come talk to the mic.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Come on. That's young, really. I had every piece of clothing in state property, too. I mean, every hoodie, scully, thermal. That's my nephew. Snorkel, anything in state property, too. I had. Shouldn't everybody be fresh?
Starting point is 00:20:41 No, but see, Dame, I still don't think. Why shouldn't everybody be fresh? I still don see, Dame, I still don't think... Why shouldn't everybody be fresh? I like everybody fresh. But I still don't think you know how important that was. Like yesterday, not yesterday, but a couple days ago, I went to Puff Daddy Crib. I got to keep throwing it out there because I'm flossing. So we went to Puff Daddy Crib,
Starting point is 00:21:00 and Puff did something very important. He went and he shaked all my friends' hands, and he asked for all their names. A lot of people don't do that. And Big Mado, Big Mado, we love you, Big Mado,
Starting point is 00:21:12 wherever you at. And he pointed it out. He said, yo, when Dame was around, everybody, Big Mado wore a 6X. He was this big.
Starting point is 00:21:23 So, y'all had to do A special order for him You feel me And the minute Like shit broke I'm saying but isn't that fun You know Like isn't it fun to be like
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yo everybody fresh on me Yeah Right I don't understand how That's not fun to people Yo you know You know what else You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:21:39 Drinks on everybody Let's go Let's go Just watch it Like see everybody happy Like that's the best shit In the world And you're the only other CEO
Starting point is 00:21:48 That When I went on tour Cause we did a Pay the fall tour You remember that Yeah Me and Camron Camron had like
Starting point is 00:21:56 Headlined the night When his record won Cause remember We had old boy And nothing Homeboy I came to party At the same time
Starting point is 00:22:03 So if Camron's record Won that week Cam'ron would close The next week If I won We would close But it was love We was clicking though right
Starting point is 00:22:09 Like the way our logic was Was always math That's it Business all day And Always math During that A to fall tour
Starting point is 00:22:19 You made sure The gear was there You made sure We was okay You made sure The gear was there You made sure we was okay You made sure that we called you Instead of Kevin Lyles Instead of Lee Orr Why would I want you to call some white man No disrespect but
Starting point is 00:22:37 You're not white You understand what I'm saying So I'm not saying no racism And you also allowed me to have A Barbara on tour. Not a barber. You didn't even beef. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:22:49 Nah, because you think. Why would it be any other way? Because every other CEO beefed with me when I said, yo, my barber's 5,000 for the month. But I'm the crazy one. Yeah, yeah. And you also allowed me to have a weed budget. I brought two pounds on you. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Let me just tell you this. Let me just tell you this. This has always been the one problem you've always had. I brought two pounds on you. That's a fact. Let me just tell you this. Let me just tell you this. This has always been the one problem you've always had. But. And you might still. Tell me.
Starting point is 00:23:10 You never fully know your worth. Damn, damn it. I don't. That'd be the problem. That's what I'm saying. I'd be like, you don't understand how big paws you are.
Starting point is 00:23:20 You understand what I'm saying? Like, you know me. Right. Niggas can't, nobody can put on you. You know what I'm saying? Salute, God damn it. Thank Niggas can't, nobody can put on you. You know what I'm saying? Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:23:27 You need some ice? Give that man some ice, god damn it. So, for example, when they was talking and it was like, you know, I already knew what they was going to try to do. Right. So, I knew you was coming in the building. Oh, you talking about in front of the video? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:37 No, I'm talking about when I went and did that with Kev. Oh, okay. Yeah. Like, for me, I'd have to move different to protect niggas. You know what I'm saying? Because if they know I'm coming. Right. Dog, what's the name used to have a lock, a buzz protect niggas. You know what I'm saying? Because if they know I'm coming. Right. Dog, what's the name used to have a lock, a buzzer lock on his door?
Starting point is 00:23:48 L.A. Reid? L.A. Reid. L.A. Reid. A buzzer lock called the Dane buzzer. Because I used to just walk. You know how I used to do. I'd just walk in. But I'm not walking in to disrespect him.
Starting point is 00:23:57 I'm walking in to save you. I'm just like, they're not going to let me save you. You understand what I'm saying? That was deep. No, this is what the whole world don't understand. All I tried to do me save you. You understand what I'm saying? That was deep. No, this is what the whole world don't understand. All I tried to do was save everybody. And that was very dangerous and disruptive to them. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:12 And it still is. You know? You understand? Like, think about it. The minute I got on the radio, I'm like, be your own boss. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't promoting my shit. I'm like, I don't give a fuck if y'all don't like me.
Starting point is 00:24:21 I'm telling you. This is the wave. You can do it yourself. Fuck these niggas. You know what I'm saying? Right. You know you did a fuck if y'all don't like me. I'm telling you. This is the wave. You can do it yourself. Fuck these niggas. You know what I'm saying? Right. No, you did. Forever.
Starting point is 00:24:28 You understand what I mean? Right. Every time I've ever had a platform, I'd be like, it's like having the note in the hand, like the napkin. I'd be like, as soon as I get in there, I'd be like, yo, trust me, these guys are suckers. I'm going to have you write it on. I'd be like, here you are. You know.
Starting point is 00:24:43 As soon as I get on, I'd be anywhere I go, I'd be like, yo, they suckers. Don't go for it. They leading y'all wrong. I mean, everybody knew that. As soon as I get on, I be anywhere I go, I be like, yo, they suckers. Don't go for it. They leading y'all wrong. They not letting you know your worth.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Right. Because you don't ask for it. Right. But you saw as soon as you asked for it, you got it. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:56 And that's why I said, I'm going to do this in front of him. Right. So what I said was, I'm like, yo, just tell me when you
Starting point is 00:25:00 go in the building. And they ain't want anyone to tell me what's up. You ain't even tell me. I know. It's a fact. I don't tell people
Starting point is 00:25:06 I be on some super chest. Right. So my shit got to move because I be trying to make history. Right. I want to be the best at everything.
Starting point is 00:25:13 So let me ask you something. So look, so when you got there I knew to go upstairs. Right. And then I knew because I looked at their budgets. I knew what their budgets was
Starting point is 00:25:20 because they was comparable to my budgets. Right. Right. So I knew whoever, we know when you was going I knew you was going there composed, completely unprotected. Mm-hmm. And that's the thing is.
Starting point is 00:25:29 You were absolutely right. I don't understand. Like, somebody come on my block and they cool peoples. Right. And I see they about to do something that might get them put in jail or killed. Or killed, yeah. I'm going to tell them. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:39 And I'm going to protect them. Because I know that just because they don't know no better, that don't mean I got to rob them. Right. You're dead. As a matter of fact, let me educate them. Right. Because they're going to appreciate that. Plus, it make it better. You want more team players. Right. Just because they don't know no better Don't mean I got to rob them Right As a matter of fact Let me educate them Right Because they're going to appreciate that Plus it make it better
Starting point is 00:25:47 You want more team players Right The more niggas that think alike Right That stick together Like it don't make sense That we don't stick together Right
Starting point is 00:25:54 And really that's the biggest problem Right Like family Like I know personally Like we don't stick together Right That's the problem with niggas Right
Starting point is 00:26:02 They don't stick Like they would rather Everybody always want to prove they could do it on their own. Damn. You know why? Because that's the dude that gets all the girls.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Right. That's it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But that's it. But the bottom line is it don't make no, that's my only logical
Starting point is 00:26:17 explanation for it. Because it'd be like, damn, why niggas don't want the other niggas? Like, why do niggas only want to be the only one with the nice car?
Starting point is 00:26:25 I think it's more flawossing when your crew got, if everybody in here rich, that make me look crazy rich. Right. So the more better you look, the better I look. It's logical. Let's make some noise for Dane making me hype.
Starting point is 00:26:39 You understand what I'm saying? I tell that to my crew all day. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. We flew out here 35 deep, and we did a show for the radio station K-Day. K-Day ain't buying not one flight. We did it.
Starting point is 00:26:54 We did it on our own. Yeah. But the thing is, we can't say we did it first. You dudes did it first, but that's the motto. No, we just was the first to let niggas know how to
Starting point is 00:27:05 Listen Everything we was doing Everybody was doing But I was giving up the game I'm like telling like Most people once they get the game But me I'm like I'm trying to tell everybody
Starting point is 00:27:15 Think about it Think about any experience you had Where an executive tried to tell you How to do it on your own See that's my thing I'm like yo I'm gonna get you with me. We might get some money together, but at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:27:27 I can't just rob you if you my nigga. Pause. Why fuck with you like that? I can't rob you. Just because I could, you know what I mean? But what I'm saying is, you gnarly, man. Now I'm going to tell you some funny shit. Look what's happening here.
Starting point is 00:27:39 That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. Let's make some noise for that, god damn it. I don't know. Whatever happened in here. Nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 00:27:44 You want some old, just some radio show shit. You want some old legendary number one kicking these niggas around. I'm watching. That's right. That's right. And you're funny with it.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I'm like, oh, this nigga's funny. I'm loving it. You know, I'm like this. But listen, listen. Finally, somebody. Let me tell you.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Think about if you did anything else. Right. Whoever keep talking, you gotta be quiet. It would be the same response. It's logical. So you do Think about your
Starting point is 00:28:06 What did I tell you Last time we spoke I was like When you first hit me I was like Yo run Dame Dash Studios Miami Let's make movies
Starting point is 00:28:14 No and that's it But we're also signing Your podcast You committing to us Correct Me and EFN Is gonna do your podcast We wanna do
Starting point is 00:28:21 Dream Champs Network Dream Champs Network Hell yeah Okay Okay But listen Let me tell you something He said it He said it But let me tell you something to do your podcast. We want to do Dream Champs Network. Dream Champs Network. Hell yeah. Okay. Okay. But listen, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:28:27 He said it. He said it. But let me tell you something. I want you to be my boss. I got you. I got you. I got you. I want to say no. I got you.
Starting point is 00:28:33 I'm a running a meeting. I'm a running a meeting. It's going to be a partnership. What? What the fuck? It's a partnership. We do it the way you do it, but we do it in the podcast world.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Partnership. It's a partnership. But Dane, this is the funniest shit in the world. This is the funniest shit. You my nigga. You already committed. You my nigga. podcast. Partnership. It's a partnership. But, Dane, this is the funniest shit in the world. This is the funniest shit. You my nigga. You already committed. You my nigga.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Yeah, listen. So, the other day, Randy Acker. Randy Acker. He's my guy. You flipped on him on camera. Randy Acker. He had a lot of nerve, though. Tell the truth.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Huh? These niggas had a lot of nerve. No, I'm not. No, look. Randy Acker would sit there and tell niggas how to act like niggas. I didn't want to go there, Dane. But I'm just saying. I'm not mad at him.
Starting point is 00:29:06 It would just be funny. All right, but... It's like easy work. You know what I'm saying? They'd be like, come on, man. Well, I got to pick you up. Let me finish picking you up. Randy Acker's my nigga, though.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Randy Acker's my nigga. Yeah, listen. So Randy Acker the other day says to me, he goes, I don't like that Lionsgate. It was like Lionsgate was hitting me direct. So he goes,
Starting point is 00:29:22 I don't like that Lionsgate hit you direct. And I said, see, when Dame Daz told you that, you said that he was wrong. And he thought about it. He looked. I said, you owe Dame Daz an apology. And he said, yes, I do. Can I break this down to you?
Starting point is 00:29:35 Yeah. Why doesn't he like them hitting you direct? Because the same reason that you didn't like. Just tell me. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Tell us why he didn't like... Just tell me. I don't know. Tell us why he didn't like you. Tell me, Dave. Because you won't need him once he goes directly to you. He won't have
Starting point is 00:29:51 any job anymore. Whatever percentage he's getting, he ain't going to get it no more. It's going to go in your pocket. That's my man. He's good. You don't think that he thinks that they take advantage of him? Was that your beef? Because that's what you said in the meeting. My beef was that wasn't their company. It was mine.
Starting point is 00:30:07 So how you having a meeting about my artist and it's not my company? But, you know, you don't want to go there like that. So, you know, because that shit
Starting point is 00:30:16 is in my rear view, but it's hilarious and it's documented. That's what's funny. That's why I document it. Why did you document everything, Dane? Because, why do you think?
Starting point is 00:30:23 I needed a witness. You knew? Yeah. You knew? document everything, Dane? Because, why do you think? I needed a witness. You knew? Yeah. You knew? Before Snapchat, he was snapping. Yeah. Nigga, I was, think about, I always had a camera. All this shit, y'all just caught up.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I've been waiting for niggas to catch up. Right or wrong, I always had a camera. But it was, you know, number one, people always say I'm doing shit I'm not, and they make it look like it's not. Right. So I hired Choke to the time to tape everything. Big up Choke, no joke. No, no big up to him. Oh, no?
Starting point is 00:30:48 Why? What happened? Well, first of all, all that footage is mine that he be putting on the thing. Oh, we did a little... Yeah, like he would... You know, he's the bootleg meister.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Oh, that's the last days of Rockefeller? That's my footage. That's all mine. But, you know, I guess he made dubs and shit and, you know, that's what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Okay, okay. I'll get to that when I feel like it's his petty money. So I don't even care, but it is disrespectful. Right. But, you know, I guess he made dubs and shit, and, you know, that's what he's doing. I get to that when I feel like it's just petty money. So I don't even care, but it is disrespectful. But also, he ran on me in Paris when I got jumped. You know what I'm saying? I got jumped in Paris by about 20 niggas. Wait, tell me, a nigga ran on you? No, it was Choke ran.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Choke ran in Paris? Yeah, we was in Paris. Let me tell you. And you had the bloody sneakers in your office? Yeah, I was talking shit. I remember. That's how rich you are. You had the sneakers that niggas jumped you in, in your office.
Starting point is 00:31:27 God damn it. No, no, no. First off, I had never got jumped before. That was crazy. You understand what I'm saying? You said 20 motherfuckers, right? A lot of niggas. We was walking and shit, and I'm taping and all this, and they start yelling and shit
Starting point is 00:31:39 in French. For no reason? No. Well, Choke's like, fuck them niggas. I'm like Alright So we walk in And shit all of a sudden A big African run up
Starting point is 00:31:48 Try to take the camera I swung on him Bomb This nigga Cause y'all was in the hood In Paris right It wasn't the hood I didn't know
Starting point is 00:31:54 I don't know He was going to do a radio show It was a radio show I didn't know You know what I'm saying I don't know what it was But I was with some girls You know
Starting point is 00:32:01 A couple of my homeboys Biggs I was just chilling I wasn't trying to get into no problems with nobody, but anyway, he tried to take the camera, so I swung on him.
Starting point is 00:32:09 But you know, he had that look in his eye like he was a big African. He ran up and shit. Because you're a boxer. Well, you know, you're going to be in the street as logical as you get.
Starting point is 00:32:15 You did you nice with your hands for a lot of years. But I just trained a lot. I be seeing you expressing niggas. You be wanting to shoot a fair one for years. For years. For somebody. a fair one for years,
Starting point is 00:32:25 for years, for somebody. A fair one is all that really counts. Right. A fair one in the hood, if you got guns, niggas got guns, but hold on,
Starting point is 00:32:32 I need a fair one. If you a true, real nigga, you got to shoot that fair one. And if you don't, everyone around you is not supposed
Starting point is 00:32:40 to respect you. Right. That's it. Like, it's no more to talk about. But I'm Puerto Rican. I want a knife for nigga. Am I still respected? You talking about me now? Yeah. That's it. Like, it's no more to talk about. But I'm Puerto Rican. I want a knife for nigga. Am I still respected?
Starting point is 00:32:46 You talking about me now. Yeah. That's my perspective. You understand what I'm saying? You got it, Dave. You got it, Dave. You don't mean me wrong. I'm saying from my eyeballs.
Starting point is 00:32:54 That's the cloth I'm cut from. So you in Paris. So I'm in Paris. They ran up, took the camera, swung on him, snickered, choked, ran, whatever. But all of a sudden, they started to mace everybody.
Starting point is 00:33:04 They had mace? They had mace? Everybody had mace Like the whole block We were on like a block You know how niggas be on a block Everybody hustle, they know each other That's the type of shit that was going on Yeah, the block collapses on you
Starting point is 00:33:15 They collapse It went from like Lovely Day to Vietnam I was like, oh shit And I was in front of girls So I was like, I'm not running You know what I'm saying? Fuck all that So you know, Holmes I was like, I'm not running. You know what I'm saying? Fuck all that. So, you know, Holmes, I jacked him, but he got up and shit.
Starting point is 00:33:29 You know, I'm going to take a fair one. He started pulling out of the basket. Oh shit, this nigga was out with a gun. But he pulled it out. It wasn't a gun. I thought it was a knife. So I took my jacket off and tried to like smuggle it. But I said, oh shit, that ain't no knife.
Starting point is 00:33:39 I'm going to get a fair one. So we start fighting and shit. I swing, crack. I get cracked. Because, you know, he had one of them shits pulled He flick it, so I was catching Whatever it was I had a hat on, so every time he catch me
Starting point is 00:33:52 It was black, but I'm like damn, I'm catching this nigga You know what I'm saying? Like that, that's the way it sounds And you know what I'm saying Everybody else had kind of ran already And all of a sudden I'm getting jumped by everybody And I'm getting tired, I'm like jumped by everybody, and I'm getting tired. I'm like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:34:06 So for the record, Choke No Joke definitely ran, you said? No, listen. Listen, let me tell you. All right. Johnny, you know the photographer Johnny Nunes? Johnny Nunes? Johnny Nunes ran. You had Johnny Nunes with you in Paris?
Starting point is 00:34:17 Yeah, of course. Oh, God damn it. But then he came back. Oh, shit. He put his camera away. No, no. I'm looking at him. He come back swinging his camera on some superhero shit.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Word up. But why are you swinging it like that? Because that's how he was swinging it. That's how he was swinging it. I'm not doing it like that. You're like Tonto. Retardo, I'm just playing with you. That's not what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:34:37 You're funny, nigga, though. Do it again. Do it again. So anyway. Do it again. Do it again. Do it again. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:34:44 He's swinging the camera On niggas and shit So Johnny Lewis went out And I came through And I'm on the floor And shit getting kicked He picked me up And I didn't know I thought I had just
Starting point is 00:34:51 Jumped back up But he told me later I start swinging I'm tired I try to swing one more time Fell Hit my hands And all that shit
Starting point is 00:34:58 Johnny's like Yo dawg We gotta get out of here Right And you had your driver You have a driver Everywhere you go No they were gone
Starting point is 00:35:04 The driver's a nigga Driver ran too French nigga did that shit On purpose He probably knew What was going on Fuck me up with that Might have been the setup
Starting point is 00:35:09 Wow Anyway so I'm swinging my chains I had two chains So I'm swinging them Shit's like yeah what Cause they You know I had caught A couple niggas though
Starting point is 00:35:16 You know what I mean I caught a couple dudes We was fighting You know what I'm saying So I'm like I'm walking And you know They went
Starting point is 00:35:23 They fell behind The cops came Took me to a hospital. I was like, take me to an American hospital. They was mad at me because I wouldn't speak. You know, they were laughing like nothing happened. You know what I'm saying? Choke pulls up to the hospital with a screwdriver, and he's like, where they at?
Starting point is 00:35:36 Right. Now? No, that's what he did. Afterwards? Yeah. If you look at International Grizzly, we covered the whole thing. Okay. Because I used to have a camera with me.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Right. Because we used to, like, run around. whole thing Okay I used to have a camera with me Right Cause we used to like Run around You know We used to fill the jet up Right And go from like You know
Starting point is 00:35:49 Like I used to run around And I would do After park Did you hear what he just said? We used to fuel The jet up God damn it Let's make some noise
Starting point is 00:35:57 Listen A lot of us here Will never know How that feels Fuel the jet up Listen I want you to be clear. The reason why we can do all that is because we had the businesses.
Starting point is 00:36:08 So we had the cash flow. The businesses was paying for all that. But the way I would justify it was this is our lifestyle. People are buying into it. And I'm not the artist, and I'm not supposed to be here. So I'd be like, yo, if I'm going to be outside and make noise, I have to really be able to make noise. So the companies would throw down on it.
Starting point is 00:36:24 But I just knew how to spend the money like a Harlem dude. You know what I'm saying? That's what I was doing. And that's the reason why I was like, yo, it's not even my bread. You know, it's coming out of my pocket. That's what I'm telling Mike Kaiser right now. It's not your bread. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:36:40 I just feel bad for you. You still got to do that. It hurt. It hurt. It was like, you know, you still got to go through that? Right, right. I remember it. You see that reaction? I don't got to go through it. That's how I feel with the music business.
Starting point is 00:36:51 When I start hearing those names, I'm like, ah. I just cringe. I'm going to start yelling out names right now. Why? I just want to see if you're going to cringe the same way. I'm going to know. When you can brace your face, it's not so bad. Leo Cole.
Starting point is 00:37:03 He's, you know know It's all good I definitely don't believe you I already did that with him So you know what I'm saying Everybody know how I feel about it Joey IE Again Guys that have
Starting point is 00:37:15 These guys have black people's jobs They've taken jobs That black people should have And I get aggravated So you see how I didn't like the way They was trying to rob you No you were right
Starting point is 00:37:24 You were correct It really wasn't me I didn't dislike't like the way they was trying to rob you. No, you were right. You were correct. It really wasn't me. I didn't dislike them for the way they treated me. I'm going to get mine. I didn't like them for the way they treated y'all. Right. You're right. You understand?
Starting point is 00:37:33 I don't work for them. I don't have to work with them. That's why I can speak on it. I don't like seeing my people, my brothers, people I care about, just being abused. So let me ask you a question. I went to do fashion. I went and did art. I did everything. You do fashion I went and did art Like I did everything
Starting point is 00:37:45 You know what I'm saying I'm not Music is like Even though I love listening to music I love it more as a fan And where I can do it Like be art about it
Starting point is 00:37:54 Like do the art thing and shit That's why I opened up Art galleries and shit like that Yeah It was the first like Art gallery I definitely did So let me ask you a question
Starting point is 00:38:00 I had a collective You remember I had a television network Like with Creative Control, maybe like 2009. Yes. Yeah. So I had another question, but now I looked at Glance and Payton Fall was still playing. Are you on it? Don't you like to go to the side of a television screen and you might be on it?
Starting point is 00:38:21 That happens a lot. Every time I turn the channel, it'll be happening. That's all. Rocky gets hyped. She gets hyped every time. What made you want to do Pay to Fall? I lived it. I was there. And this is another thing. I was there.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Sometimes I speak to you, I'm not sure you really understand how much of a classic Pay to Fall is. Why? Why do you think that? No, because it's just me and you speaking. It's a lot of us, but tell me. And state property.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Why do you, but why? No, because I be like, yo, yo. What am I doing that you don't think? I be like, and then you be like, you know, that was good. I should be frontin' more? I want you to front more. Like, is that bad?
Starting point is 00:38:57 No, it's not bad. I want you to, like, I want, like, because one day I'll say, I'll say, yo, I say, oh, damn, I want to do the, oh. You know why? I don't own it 100%. That's why I'm more happy about two honorable. That's what I'm saying. Like, I use my own bread'll say, oh, damn, I want to do the... You know why? I don't own it 100%. That's why I'm more happy
Starting point is 00:39:05 about two honorable. That's what I'm saying. Like, I use my own bread. See, people have different wins. Sometimes people want it to look like a win. But can I put you on the side? That shit ain't a win to me
Starting point is 00:39:14 if I did it with somebody's money, man. I got to do it with my money to be a real win. I met an old lady that lived in my hood for... But no disrespect to it. It's the best shit in the world. I met an old lady
Starting point is 00:39:24 that lived in my hood my whole life. Her name was Rhonda, right? Where's Bizzle at? What's her name? Rhonda? Good morning, Vietnam. You still go with your whole same crew. That's how I have to. So listen. So listen. So Rhonda
Starting point is 00:39:40 Rhonda lived in left rack my whole life. And Rhonda told me, she said to me one day, she said, I don't own this, but this is mine. And that made total sense to me because what I mean is she lived there for 30 years. That don't make sense to me. She didn't own it, but it was hers. It's not. I know.
Starting point is 00:40:01 But there's people who think like that. I'm not one of them. Okay. And you don't agree with that theory at all. It doesn't work for me. At all. And you know, you can do that, but that's just not me. Okay, now let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:40:12 I'm sorry. There's a word called blackballed. Hey, yo. Do you think... Do you think... The way you said it. You know, blackballed. Getting blackballed, getting blackballed.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Say it a little quicker. Say it a little quicker, man. Pardon me for a minute. I'm going black ball. Say it a little quicker. Say it a little quicker, man. Pardon me for being a mother of light and bogey in here. Say it a little quicker, buddy. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You enjoy saying it. People told me I was black balled. I didn't feel it.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Do you think that exists with you? Do you think you were black balled? Or could they be blackball you? In any way, could they? Like, logically? Yeah. Without emotion? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:40:51 The only way I could be blackballed is if they were in the industry I wanted to be in. Mm. So, like, it's like, let's say... That's why you went to fashion. That's not why I went to fashion. Right, but do you feel
Starting point is 00:41:00 you was blackballed? Like, in that... I just told you. No? Like, put it like this. Let's say I'm on a block and I'm selling nickels. And I leave the block.
Starting point is 00:41:08 And I never come back ever to sell nickels. That business doesn't affect you anymore. Whatever goes on, politic-wise, whether I can or not, Dame ain't got no flies on all this, it doesn't matter. I'm not going over there. Right. So they can say anything they want. I'm not coming back.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Right. I think they were saying that Just so I could try to come back And prove it I'm just not doing it man I can't get you back To the music industry Why?
Starting point is 00:41:30 There's not enough money in it For what? I don't know You enjoy it I'm a businessman Logically why would I do it? I don't know Because this just pisses on people
Starting point is 00:41:38 But the thing is I make music Let's get on with Kelly Let's get on with Kelly Come on See Tell him Because I don't think he knows Say it again He did projects that he Most Dime and the Black Keys. Come on. Listen, thank you. Now, see, tell him because I don't think he knows.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Say it again? He did projects that he enjoyed. He just liked the artistry. You know I put like the Black Keys, like a rock group. And was it Blue Rock? No, listen, listen. All right. You could go Google Black Rock.
Starting point is 00:41:56 I'm on the Google. I'm a dumb nigga. You could talk to a friend. I got niggas who Google for me. You could do that. Hey, yo. That's serious. I'm about to get out of here.
Starting point is 00:42:05 You can Google my name. No could do that. Hey, yo. That's serious. I'm about to get out of here. You can Google my name. Trust me, it's happening. No, no, don't say that, bro. You know what I'm saying? Now you see my pain? You can try it. You know you old school. You just starting the path.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Have you tried and it was difficult? Yes, I did. What did you do? I Googled some bullshit. Seven pages popped up of porn. I was like, what the fuck? So what's wrong with that? I Googled a sandwich.
Starting point is 00:42:21 You must have Googled porn. So what did you do wrong? I Googled a sandwich. I Googled a sandwich. I Googled a sandwich. I Googled a sandwich. I Googled a sandwich. I Googled some bullshit. Seven pages popped up of porn. And I was like, what the fuck? So what's wrong with that? I Googled a sandwich. You must have Googled porn. So what did you do wrong?
Starting point is 00:42:28 I Googled a sandwich. What did you do wrong? And they showed me images of a real sandwich, a different type of sandwich. No, I'm saying, what did you do wrong? What did I do wrong? Yeah. No, I'm just not that smart. No, no.
Starting point is 00:42:40 He only likes using phones. You don't want to do whatever on the computer. You ever know the guy who rode on the yellow bus? You ever laughed at him, niggas? Who I am? Nah, man. Get out of here. I'm a yellow bus nigga.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Turn it off, man. The short resource room. That nigga. I was in special education. You know where the resource room is? In what? In school. No.
Starting point is 00:42:58 The resource room. Because you was in the smart class. No, I got kicked out. I got my GED, my nigga. Yeah, I was in the resource room. That's like the... Special ed? It's got kicked out. I got my GED, my nigga. Yeah, I was in the resource room. That's like the... Special ed? It's like seven teachers.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Were you in special ed? No, I was lower than special ed. Oh, get out of here, man. Resource room. You got seven teachers. That's the special students. So what you're telling me is you're the smartest
Starting point is 00:43:17 stupid nigga in the world? That's a fact. No, God damn it. God damn it. I'm the smartest. Yo, make some noise for him. He knew it or no.
Starting point is 00:43:25 God damn it. God damn it. God damn, the smartest. Yo, make some noise for him. He doing a nose. God damn it. God damn it. God damn it. So Dame Dash. Right. But anyway, back to the black ball pause. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And get to those projects too, man.
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Starting point is 00:48:16 Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. We're back to Drink Champs Radio With rapper N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN Now Dipset The Rockstars The what? The Rockstars
Starting point is 00:48:39 Like to me Those Dipset were You know they're Harlem niggas But they were the Rockstar Harlem niggas You know what I mean? Now was this true That you made Cam The vice president And that
Starting point is 00:48:49 Like Started like Turmoil Like Well can I tell you I mean you and Dream Champs This is not
Starting point is 00:48:58 I didn't get upset About anything You have to explain it I love this nigga I mean you know Your question You know the answer You want to hear.
Starting point is 00:49:05 You're a really smart, dumb nigga. Thank you. Wasn't a smart, dumb question. You know, if I'm a real smart nigga, I'm going to pretend I'm stupid. Exactly. That's what I was saying about him. I know what he's doing. Stop.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Stop. You're my partner, man. Could play along with it. Could you do it on me? I'm telling you. Anyway, what happened was, can I just tell you from my perspective man could play along with it could you do it on me I'm telling you anyway what happened was can I just tell you
Starting point is 00:49:28 from my perspective yes your perspective this is all I know this is what I did so me I like to empower everybody right so I had given Cam
Starting point is 00:49:35 or we had given Cam a label Dipset and we had given Beanie a label State Property so my thing was just title wise
Starting point is 00:49:43 if you had a label then you could be considered a vice president. That's all it meant. You understand what I'm saying? That was it. Nothing more, nothing less. And of course,
Starting point is 00:49:52 Cam being the Harlem dude that he is, went and made an announcement and made it sound fly. Right. I'm the vice president. He never said anything else. I mean,
Starting point is 00:50:00 go back and hear the interview. Right. And then all of a sudden... Close the door? Go ahead. All of a sudden... Close that door? Go ahead. All of a sudden, everybody was mad about it. Like, you know... Like, when you say everybody.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Well, there was like a call. You know, we made a call. I had it. We did it. I got to remember this shit because, you know, Jay was taking his first vacation. And it's the first time. This is the first time. You mentioned Jay before me.
Starting point is 00:50:21 That's cool. But you asked me a question that would invoke me saying it. That's a setup. Stop. I just wanted to throw that out there. You want to do that to me? You want to do that with me? This is Barbara Walters.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Why me, though? Don't do that to me. You my nigga. You know we going in. We about to hit some dusk. We about to hit some dusk. You know, don't make it like I'm asking a question. I'm going to have to say homie's name.
Starting point is 00:50:38 I just wanted to fair some, though. I didn't bring him up. No, you did bring him up. You asked me about the vice presidency of Rockefeller. Anything that is bringing it up. Now you want to add dumb. Yeah, you mad bring him up. You asked me about the vice presidency of Rockefeller. Anything that is bringing it up. Now you want to have dumb. Yeah, you're mad smarter than me. You're all right.
Starting point is 00:50:48 You're all right. You told me he wasn't smart. That's right. So continue. Why are you surprised? Continue being smart. A dumb guy is smart when the smart guy is smarter than him. Good, good.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Continue being smart. Good logic. I'm just going to be honest. I'm just going to be honest. So there was a call and everybody was on it. I don't have to get into the names, but everybody was just worried. And I just couldn't understand why. But the thing was, no one was acknowledging that Beans was the vice president as well.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Not even really Beans. You know what I'm saying? I was like, yo, you're the vice president. We had this conversation So I just think When people are worried About perception More than the reality It sometimes causes confusion Always
Starting point is 00:51:31 Now state property three Put it like this Okay As a man I don't want to be around Other men that are confused About things Or from my vision
Starting point is 00:51:39 So I'll be like I And if you remember I have moved Close that door Close that door If you remember I had moved out of Rockefeller and went to Rockware. Yes, you did.
Starting point is 00:51:48 So my thing was it was out of, like, loyalty to Rockefeller that I was still even fucking with rock. Because I was already done with that shit. I was older. I wanted to do other things. If you remember, I made Pain and Fool. I made movies. I didn't even want to do music unless there was a movie component to it. That's why I made State Property
Starting point is 00:52:05 because we had State Property, the label, State Property, the clothing line. We would make a compilation album where it didn't have to go out of none of their personal budgets, but they would all be able to get videos. You understand what I'm saying? And then if anything cracked,
Starting point is 00:52:17 then boom, you know what I mean? Let's make some noise for Dane Perspective because a lot of people don't know that. There was no recouping. I thought you thought it was obvious. No, no, no, no. But you know recouping in that. Because you're not as obvious. No, no, no, no. But you know why? You know why you're thinking that it's obvious?
Starting point is 00:52:28 You're thinking it's obvious between us. But a lot of people in the world don't know that. Like, I know that. I told them. Yeah, but I know. It's not a secret. So, state property. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:37 So, then if you look at the movie, you see, you saw the Armadillo was in it, the Rockaway was in it. Every single thing that we were selling, including the music, was in it, the rockware was in it. Every single thing that we were selling, including the music, was in it. And if you do the logic, who was the biggest artist basically of all time, musically? I would say Elvis, right? Overall music, yeah. And Elvis really was...
Starting point is 00:52:56 I'll say Michael Jackson. They're comparable. But the Beatles, no? That was well. Everybody you name made movies. Right. Everybody you name.
Starting point is 00:53:04 I just set you up to say that. You understand what I'm saying? So is that why you did Streets is Watching? It makes sense to make movies. Yeah, we did Streets is Watching because we did that Sunshine video and we had the shiny suits trying to be like Homeboy and it didn't work out. Who's Homeboy? Puff. Puff? Yeah. Let's make some noise for Puff.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Come on, Puff. At the time, he was killing it. And the shiny suits was doing this shit and like hype, like gave him, gave Paul's, Jay the banana in the tailpipe.
Starting point is 00:53:29 So you wasn't with the sunshine video? Listen, the first treatment had Jay's nose as a balloon and him popping it. I was like, yo, how you trying to make us look stupid, dog?
Starting point is 00:53:36 You know what I'm saying? Oh my God. Yeah, we had an argument about it. But anyway, it came out. You know what I'm saying? Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:53:42 You know, it was like niggas was clowning us. So I was like, fuck it, maning us so i was like fuck it man we gonna go back into the streets just watching and do the b-side because i like the beast i really don't like singles i hate singles because i want to be the first to know i don't like when everybody knows something and everybody i like to be the nigga that know shit that nobody know yeah okay i like i don't want to do i've never the thing i don't understand it's not logical
Starting point is 00:54:00 like people want to be like everybody i that's like like I don't ever want to be like anybody I want to be like me You understand what I'm saying? I do anything I can To make sure I look like I have my own point of view I don't want to look like everybody If I see somebody wearing something in a magazine
Starting point is 00:54:14 I'm not wearing it So was that a musical? Huh? In the streets you watch it It was the B-Sides And it was videos But it also had a component of acting in it So we just brought
Starting point is 00:54:25 the b-sides the life because they were movies anyway they were like true stories and then it's also a visual you know i'm saying like every visual you have something like a movie in a movie you can sell everything the clothes the music every product you see can be sold so that's why i'm like damn i make movies And I make the products You know I could be My own country You know what I'm saying Like I ain't got to talk
Starting point is 00:54:50 To nobody All I need I don't need a million people I need a hundred thousand Fifty thousand All I need is real people That can understand The taste that I have
Starting point is 00:54:57 That I can connect with And just sell it all to them And that's why I make a liquor That's why I make clothing That's why I make socks That's why I make motor oil You know that's why make clothing. That's why I make socks. That's why I make motor oil. That's why I just make shit. Motor oil shit is crazy. That shit is ill.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Thank you. But again, I just did it just to be... That was one of them companies I did just to do it. To be like stunting and say I sold motor oil. Because nobody did it for my world. Because you could. I just like to do shit. That's how my perspective is. And I like to be able to say I did it with my own money or independent or figured it out.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Whatever way it is, I'm addicted to the game. You know what I'm saying? Like, I just like the game and I don't like playing with other people's money. That's not the game. But Streets is watching. So that was your own money as well? It's like we're in a fake jersey. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:55:39 If you're saying you're in business and you're using somebody else's bread, that's like having a fake jersey. The Bobos. That's the fake a fake jersey. The Bobos. That's the fakey, fakey. And I don't do fakey, fakey. And I started feeling fakey, fakey. Pause.
Starting point is 00:55:52 I don't like fakey, fakey. So that's what Endorse is the streets is watching? No, it's the streets is watching. Going back to that, I just got on another tangent.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Okay, go ahead. Because I started understanding. No problem. You go anywhere you want to go. Again, you know what it is. When you start making me think about when other people were putting up their money, it aggravates me.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Yeah. I'm no longer aggravated. Damn. Because it's mine. That's right. You know what I mean? It's mine. But the street watch was your own money.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Nah, we had to put it up first. But then they gave it up. They gave it back. I was like, fuck y'all. I told you all. Because what happened was we had put that video out. You can't get a nigga high and then think he't gonna go all kind of You know what I mean So that's why it's happening
Starting point is 00:56:25 But when we put the video out It was because You know We knew it made us corny And you know Lior straight up was like Yo you're cold We ain't giving you no more bread
Starting point is 00:56:33 Wait but After the Sunshine video Y'all had y'all separate meeting And y'all felt like y'all was cold Yeah we didn't feel it We knew it You know It was like
Starting point is 00:56:43 Oh that shit Look we got The shit was whack It wasn't us It. We knew it. You know, it was like, oh, that shit, look, we got, the shit was whack. It wasn't us. It was us trying to be like them. And it was obvious. The shit was whack. All right. So you know what?
Starting point is 00:56:52 That shit happened. So what? All right, now we're going to double back, and we're going to give them streets as watchers so they know we're not the shiny suit niggas. And that was your idea? I was like, yo, hey, it was my idea. You know it was my idea. Don't fight with me.
Starting point is 00:57:02 See, what are you doing right now? No, no, I'm just saying you got to the people. I was like yo get the get the hardest record pause on the record and i just want to see some guns and bullets flying and then at the end i want to say it was senseless because i didn't want it to be looked at as we glorifying it which is that's how it was they can start shooting for no reason that's what it's like that's actually the shit we're trying to get away from right you know you got to remember the reason why rockefeller Rockefeller was Rockefeller is because we did a lot of white people shit. I always made sure that we did that. Start with the name.
Starting point is 00:57:29 That's what I'm saying. We were imitating white people. It wasn't like be better than black people. You know, they ceiling to me was kind of low just because of what's been shoved in our brain. This is the mentality. I'm going with your mentality. I wanted to stunt on you.
Starting point is 00:57:44 I wanted that kind of money. And I'm not going to stop. I don't to stunt on you I wanted that kind of money And I'm not going to stop I don't want to look like I have that kind of money I need to have that kind of money And I'm not a celebrity You understand Like I got to sell work
Starting point is 00:57:55 I don't sell fame So my work got to be good You understand what I'm saying That was hard Huh Make some noise for that That was hard Yeah hold on Before you I got something Before I forget Before I forget You got a lot of questions Let's make some noise for that. That was hard. Yo, hold up.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Before you... I got something. Before I forget. Before I forget. You got a lot of questions. Drunk facts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of my favorite artists.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Drunk facts. You're not drunk. Drunk facts. No, drunk facts. Drunk facts. We off by a year or two. I'll take the role. Come on.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Nah, he's good. He's good. One of my favorite artists. Big L. Yeah. I need to know. Was he supposed to be... Was he going to Rockefeller?
Starting point is 00:58:24 Yeah, Big Miguel was my man Pause Like that was my dude But you know Um Initially I was managing In the beginning
Starting point is 00:58:32 Beginning Beginning It was the children of the corn Right With Mace and everything It was Mace Was McGruff part of that Kinda yeah
Starting point is 00:58:38 McGruff Yeah Cam Bloodshed Who's Cam's cousin who passed God bless God bless Yeah
Starting point is 00:58:43 You know And they You know the thing was They were from like... We love you, Cam. Come on the fucking show. That's my brother. You know, Bloodshed was from 1199.
Starting point is 00:58:52 All right. But Cam was from 140th. You know what I'm saying? So I used to see him when I was uptown, but I'd also see him downtown. Okay. So we was all kind of close. Pause. And like Cam, he was like...
Starting point is 00:59:04 So that's how you came into the game, managing? Yeah. So you managed Jay? I took years on the corn. Yeah, but don't get away from the Big L stuff. I want the Big L stuff, man. And the original flavor. And Big L.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Yeah, but not the same. You know, it was different shit. Like my career has been ill. But as far as Big L goes, yeah, I was going to sign him. But my point is our history. I was giving you our history. Right. And also we all knew each other. Like it wasn't like, it was some shit where it. But my point is our history. I was giving you our history. Right. And also, we all knew each other.
Starting point is 00:59:25 Like, it wasn't like, it was some shit where it was like we knew each other really from day to day being in the street with Big L. Like, we'd be on the block. Like, you know what I'm saying? 139th, I'm from 142nd. But, you know, like, I'm from 1199, but I used to be on 142nd. And I would call that my block. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:59:40 And I saw Big L all the time. You understand what I mean? So, when I got in the music business, we would talk. And Big L had the first deal. He had like a single deal with Columbia. And he had Indie when he did Flamboyance and his entertainment. Yeah. And even like one day, Jay actually battled Big L on 139th Street.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Oh, wow. Now you're talking about battles. That's what he used to do. DMX and Jay-Z battles. Yeah, yeah. That was in the barbershop in the Bronx. Who won?
Starting point is 01:00:10 Jay. Jay won. DMX told me he won. I think DMX, for what he wanted to do, he did win. But for what he needed for me, he convinced all my friends
Starting point is 01:00:20 that he was real because they used to tease me about Jay. You understand what I'm saying? All right. Yeah, break that down for us. No, I didn't understand what you were saying.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Well, like, you know, Jay was like a Brooklyn dude, so, you know, Harlem dudes don't just accept Brooklyn dudes, you know what I'm saying, back then. And Jay's swag
Starting point is 01:00:34 was a little different. Like, just look at it. You understand? Look at who I am, Sophie. Right. It's completely different than Rockefeller Jay. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:00:41 So, I used to get teased for fucking with Brooklyn niggas. So, basically, I would come uptown and all day my crew, the best out. The best out. Would tease me all day about this nigga. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:00:53 Like shit on him, you say? Like just, you know, tease me about the fact that his swag was different. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm fast rapping. That's why the battle happened. Okay. Because they was teasing me so much. And I just, I knew what Jay was, but no one else really.
Starting point is 01:01:06 So how did this battle happen? You and D and Y? No, no, no. Me and my man Steve Mack. Steve Mack. Steve Mack. Yeah, Steve Mack was from 3333. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:01:14 Okay. And he was managing these guys, Wynn. And damn, I can't remember everybody. They're going to be mad at me. Go ahead. But Wynn and Les Oils. Okay. And the Harlem Knights. Less Oils. Okay. And Harlem Nights.
Starting point is 01:01:28 The Harlem Nights. Okay. Harlem Nights. That's what DMX said on this show. Right. So the Harlem Nights. Damn glad I remembered that shit. That's what DMX said on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Yeah. And, you know, me and Steve Mack went to high school together, but we was also in the best out. Right. I'm from Lenox. He's from Broadway. It was a crew of us. We were from different blocks. You know what I mean? But we was also in the best out Right I'm from Lenox He from Broadway It was a crew of us We were from different blocks
Starting point is 01:01:46 You know what I mean But we hung out tough every day And we rather like laugh Than be fighting So they said that So they used to be Shitting on me every day Cause original
Starting point is 01:01:54 You know I'm from a I'm from a crew of hardcore people I'm in an extreme circumstance Right That's not what they was talking about Like Jay used to rap fast Right
Starting point is 01:02:03 And he didn't dress the same You know it was different And then also The original flavor They weren't like gangster rappers It was about jazz It was about music They didn't get that at all
Starting point is 01:02:13 And I was like You guys only see hood shit And I'm trying to get away from that shit But I knew they could rap So I was like Alright let's We set up a battle I'm trying to always argue hard
Starting point is 01:02:21 Every day And the Tone Hooker's Original flavor Tone Hooker Tone Hooker the one If he was an original flavor Ski Chubby. And the Tone Hooker is the original flavor. Tone Hooker, Tone Hooker the one, if he was an original flavor, Ski, Chubby Chub. Chubby Chub.
Starting point is 01:02:28 And Tone Hooker was the one that made the name of Rockefeller. Wow. Yeah. I heard that. Yeah, that's the truth. I heard that before.
Starting point is 01:02:35 So, boom, we ended up, so we all met up at the Gaucho Gym in the Bronx. In the Bronx. Right, and then we headed over. That's on Gerard. And Tone Hooker had,
Starting point is 01:02:43 Tone Hooker's man was in a wheelchair. I actually think I saw him in a picture with my OG Daniel the other day. I got to ask if that was him. But he owned the barbershop because we had to meet on like a neutral ground. Right. So we got in there and we got to battling. Big L taped it.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Yo, see? Yeah, he said that. Big L taped it. X said it. DMX. Oh, yeah, it was crazy. No, DMX did not co-sign. Who said it? No, that was Biggs who said that Big L Tape DMX Oh yeah it was crazy No DMX did not co-sign Who said it
Starting point is 01:03:07 No that was Biggs Who said that on On another podcast Drum facts Yeah But look But a lot of shit happened But um
Starting point is 01:03:14 Jay's part we taped But Wild wouldn't let us tape Cause we hadn't Cause it shit wasn't copyrighted So in your opinion Jay did win that battle? Because I'm telling you, in my perspective,
Starting point is 01:03:29 like the next day, like Biggs and Bob called me and was like, yo, he said that money dancing on the ceiling shit, and niggas saw it, the vision. Like he could rap,
Starting point is 01:03:37 you know, and then the lifestyle had to come with it. You know, so you got to remember, like the Rockefeller was really a variation of my original crew, the Best Out.
Starting point is 01:03:48 You know what I'm saying? And our thing, all of us used to throw money together so it would look bigger. Our thing was a lot of flash, no cash. And we was young. Create the perception.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Wait, did you say a lot of what? A lot of flash, no cash. Low cash? A lot of flash. No cash. No cash. A lot of flash, no cash. But you know what?
Starting point is 01:04:04 Some of my crew Would be like You know We were like Like me I used to think I'm on some white boy shit I'm thinking about
Starting point is 01:04:09 Trying to get white people money But some of my other crew Big up That's the twin That's him You know he out here With a hundred dollars I'm rich
Starting point is 01:04:16 You got a hundred dollars More than me Listen He came to Vegas For three days With eighty bucks And he made it back home Let's make some noise
Starting point is 01:04:24 For him Money's not part of it man Wait Wait He came to Vegas for three days with 80 bucks, and he made it back home. Let's make some noise for him, God damn it. Money's not currency, man. Wait, wait. Break that down? Money is not currency. Your wealth is your happiness. Money doesn't get you where you got to go.
Starting point is 01:04:37 You get you where you got to go. Either way, you're going to get there. You don't need money to do shit. Really, that's what I'm saying. Money was put here to control our brain. Honestly, if a nigga had a billion dollars, but he's unhappy, is he rich? No. Damn.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Why do all these rich people be killing themselves? Why you go to third world countries and they happy the motherfucker? You know how depressed you have to be to kill yourself? You understand? Like, a lot of people that are looked at as wealthy end up, you know what I mean? And it happens often. Yep. Wow. That's when you become a slave to money.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Money is dark, dog. And it was put there to fucking blind you. Right. You know what I mean And it happens often Yep Wow That's when you become a slave The money Money is dark dog And it was put there To fucking blind you Right You know what I mean Like that Like Champagne Dame You know like All that shit that I did
Starting point is 01:05:12 It was like We got the bread I'm spending that money We gonna have fun And not just me All of us are Right No you didn't
Starting point is 01:05:19 But it was about having fun What's the purpose of having money If you ain't gonna have fun with it And if fun isn't seeing the people that deserve it get just as much money as you, then your perception of your reality is just different than mine.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Stay over there. I don't want no parts of that. I'm not going to lie. Let's make some noise for that. That's why we got the Ching Bing, Mike Booth podcast about the set off.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Ching Bing, Mike Booth, tell them where it is. Can I ask you a question? Okay, let's go. What did you think about the whole thing? what it is. Can I ask you a question? Okay, let's go. What did you think about the whole thing? The whole what? Let me ask you a question. The whole what?
Starting point is 01:05:49 After the Rockefeller breakup. Right. What happened? Tell that story. Because you was a Rockefeller. Nobody ever asked you that? Nobody ever asked me that. What happened?
Starting point is 01:05:59 I was confused. But what happened? I didn't ask the emotion. Tell me what happened. I was... I'll be honest with you. But what happened? I didn't ask the emotion. Tell me what happened. I was, I was, I'll be honest with you. You know what? I knew how dope he was. You're not telling me what happened, though.
Starting point is 01:06:11 I'm telling you. I'm getting into it. He's like, this is smart nigga stupid shit. Yeah, smart stupid shit. Answer that. So listen. What? You told me what happened.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Bottom line, it was never the same. But what happened to your situation? So Rockefeller breaks up. And you have to, whatever. What situation did they put you in? same But what happened To your situation So Rockefeller breaks up And Yeah You have to Whatever What situation
Starting point is 01:06:28 Did they put you in And then what happened The situation was just crazy Because Rockefeller broke up Then L.A. Reid Had took over I had no relationship
Starting point is 01:06:37 With L.A. Reid And I didn't think He wanted a relationship With me at the time So I asked to be released He probably didn't I asked to be released I realized probably didn't. I asked to be released.
Starting point is 01:06:45 I realized Cam had asked to be released first, and they gave him his release papers. What happened was we demanded that Cam be released when they made certain people the president because it was a conflict. We already knew he had an issue. Right, right. So he was like, no way Cam got to stay here.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Right. So L.A. Reid did the right thing. The thing about L.A. Reid is when you got in front of him, he always did the right thing. Yep, he's Reid is always a great guy. When you got in front of him, he always did the right thing. No. Yep. It's a great guy. So once Cam had got released and then I believe it was like a Method Man or Red Man project. And I realized they didn't spend the marketing dollars that was supposedly should have been spent.
Starting point is 01:07:19 So what I did was I did the same. I follow Cameron's footsteps and I asked To be released and I left Trying to remember what happened I left up out of There I can't remember what happened What with me afterwards Yeah that's pretty much What I just said yeah I mean What did he just say
Starting point is 01:07:38 I said that Cameron No this is what I said No this is what I said I said Cameron had asked to be released, and once Camo, you had iterated something else. After Cam, you asked to be released? Yeah, I asked to be released because... This is what happened.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Like, all the artists had to, like, it was like, it was crazy because, again, I didn't really want to have a label. I wanted to do the fashion thing, but I wasn't going to leave everybody out there because everyone would have got dropped. Right. So I was like, all right, I'll just make Dame Dash Das music group Y'all run that shit and whatever happens happens, you know You supposed to sign Beanie label, right?
Starting point is 01:08:11 Well, it'd be it was like if Beanie wanted to he could come with me or he could do what he had to do Right, so, you know, he chose a different route. But the thing is are we gonna get a state property 3? I hope so. I don't know what it's going to be. We all got on the phone. Remember that? What I wanted to do was take it to like China. You got to have a passport to be in that. Yeah. I got a passport.
Starting point is 01:08:31 You know what I mean? I wanted to do it like, if I'm going to do that, I didn't want it to be like it was. I wanted it to be like. You said something to me that was super interesting, right? Me, you, and Beans was all on the phone. It was all great. Right? And then afterwards, we never got on the phone again.
Starting point is 01:08:49 And then I think Beans did an interview and said something. And then I asked you, I called you and you said, did you hear Beans say that to me? And it was very interesting to me because he did not say that to you. So, like, what do you think your issue is i don't know i don't know i have i don't think there's an issue there's i have no issue right so you know again a lot a lot of times i hear about issues but no one ever has the conversation with me so i never know what somebody's mad about i always hear about it i've never you said that it makes total sense my perspective is if i've done all this good shit, and let's say I made a mistake in this
Starting point is 01:09:25 something, I at least deserve a conversation about it. Right. You know, but sometimes I don't think it would be a conversation that would be logical. You know, because, you know, again, that's between us. No, I keep it real. You made me go to Bean's court date. You said, yo, Slime, this nigga need to have support. And I drove all the way to Philadelphia just to come to Bean School.
Starting point is 01:09:47 You remember that? Yeah, I did it every day. God damn it, my nigga. Like, this is real shit. And I came there, and then, you know, this is a good day. Let me just say something. Go ahead. In fashion, I never had to go to no trials.
Starting point is 01:10:03 What? Totally different. I never had to tell niggas To do none of that shit You understand? In movies You understand what I mean? But every day And you made
Starting point is 01:10:12 It's a lot of work man And you made sure Jay-Z and Beyonce Came to that court date One day I remember It's a lot of work I remember
Starting point is 01:10:19 I remember Yo what was When you guys did Death of a Dynasty Was that fucking autobiographical? What the fuck was going on there? I knew what was going on. I found it funny and I made a movie about it So you really like that's really you know and what's happening. I'm gonna make a movie I never heard you say this before
Starting point is 01:10:35 You might have been drunk. Yeah You said you knew this didn't know I made a movie about it, so what more can I say? I'm back. I'm back, yo. Like, you understand what I'm saying? Yo, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:10:51 But you knew that was going to come into fruition? Did I use that word right? Yeah, absolutely correct. I saw that shit early, nigga. Why you think I was doing mad shit? I was like, this thing ain't trying to, you know what I'm saying? Like, even at the end when y'all get,
Starting point is 01:11:01 that shit look awkward. You knew it, nigga? They know what's happening, man. You knew it was happening, nigga, a long time ago. Y'all get That shit look awkward Like I was like They know what's happening You knew what was happening Nigga long time ago Y'all thought Shit how Ben was exiting You saw me
Starting point is 01:11:09 I had already moved to fashion I'm like this nigga's bugging I'm out So alright Let's get to Yeah I made a movie bug We had Myth Bleak on the show Oh yeah
Starting point is 01:11:16 You called me I didn't Well okay Did I call you? Yeah I tell you You're a funny nigga You heard that show right You checked out I didn't hear it I don't be. You heard that show, right? You checked out.
Starting point is 01:11:26 I didn't hear it. I don't be really, you know, it's hard for me to do because I can't say nothing. So I don't even try to engage. You're saying something tonight, motherfucker. It doesn't matter. It's that Poppin' Tin. It's a Poppin' Tin lighter. Oh, let me get that lighter.
Starting point is 01:11:37 It's mine. You can have it. It's mine. Can I borrow it? Mm-hmm. See, now I'm borrowing something I paid for. Listen, let me just tell you something. That's all.
Starting point is 01:11:47 So let me just say something. This nigga Dave. Let's make some noise for Dave. He's in red form, man. He's in red form right now. I'm in red form. Let's take a shot. Let's take a shot, Dave.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Let's take a shot, Dave. And then we're going to get into this private jet. I'm with Norby. That's like being with a friend. That's family for y'all. I hear you. You are a friend. A brother. It'sby. That's like being with a friend. That's family for y'all. I am. You are a friend. A brother.
Starting point is 01:12:08 It's like, you know, this is a mic. You know what I'm saying? Like, Norby's a personable guy. He knows everybody. That's why this makes sense. We'll be going back to State Property 3.
Starting point is 01:12:14 I forgot where I was about to go, but it's okay. But do you remember that y'all tried to challenge us in drinking in your crib? Which one? Do you remember that? Which crib?
Starting point is 01:12:22 Oh. Yo, I ain't go front. You have mad cribs. I still do. I just move around a lot. In the art district. In Tribe crib? Which one? You remember that? Which crib? Oh. Yo, I ain't go far. You have mad cribs. I still do. I just move around a lot. In the art district? In Tribeca? Mm.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Mm. You had the biggest table I ever seen in my life. Let's make some noise for that guy. He had a table. That shit was like the seven suppers. So. When you're using other people's money, you can do all that shit.
Starting point is 01:12:41 When you're using other people's money, I want you to learn from this, really. Like, all of that shit only happened because at the time, I didn't have to use that table right now. I would have to pay for a camera. Or I have to pay for some fucking staff. Or I have to pay for some lawsuit or a lawyer. You understand what I mean? When you're using your money, it's like cracks and leaks of a wall.
Starting point is 01:13:00 And you ain't even got enough fingers. But that's part of the game. That's why I do it in bulk. I'm like, let me get it all over With it one shot You know what I'm saying You're Costco's I mean
Starting point is 01:13:08 I'm not Costco's I'm more like Bergdorf Goodman I don't know what that is But that sounds a lot It's the most expensive Department store in the world There's only one of them
Starting point is 01:13:16 That's why we don't know What the fuck it is Yeah but if he would've Stuck around He would've known He'd be shopping there right now I think he shitted on me Let's make some noise
Starting point is 01:13:22 For him You shitted on yourself You said I don't know Nigga you said I don't know Dumb smart shit So you don't miss the music business a little bit? I don't miss anything But making music
Starting point is 01:13:34 And I make music all the time My son makes music That's right The thing about it is If I have the ability to make people famous Which I do Then why won't I make myself or my son famous? Why would I put my energy into other people
Starting point is 01:13:45 that don't appreciate it, that are going to walk away at the end of the day? Because it's actually theirs. I'm renting it. The minute we're not friends no more, I can't get no money with that person. And I'm not a guy that, you know, holds his tongue. You know, I pause. You know what you told me one day? You said, you know, you said
Starting point is 01:14:02 to me, I called you, I called you, like, I just want to soak up game from you. And you Like just I just wanted to Soak up game from you And you say I said what's a coach Of ultra Dame And you said Any person that is Not going to fuck with you
Starting point is 01:14:11 When you can't do Something for them And listen There was a person Who asked me to Hook him up with CBS Oh yeah You know this person
Starting point is 01:14:19 I don't want to say Their name Did you pass it on to me I passed it on to you Because I'm busy And he was like Yo hook me up with CBS And I'm like Yo listen I don't fuck with them me? I passed it on to you because I'm busy. And he was like, you hooked me up with CBS. And I'm like, yo, listen, I don't fuck with them.
Starting point is 01:14:28 I don't talk to them. You know what I'm saying? Not like in a bad way, but I passed them off to you. CBS said they didn't want to fuck with them. The minute he said he didn't want to fuck with them, the niggas stopped fucking with me. I said, this nigga Dame Dash told me this. But weren't you happy?
Starting point is 01:14:41 You don't be wanting to fuck with niggas anyway. That's a fact. I love women. You know what I'm with niggas anyway. That's a fact. I love, I like, like, I love women. You know what I'm saying? Invest in women. That's it,
Starting point is 01:14:49 because, what's the worst that's really gonna happen? You know what I'm saying? You know, women really like, they gonna rock with you if you rocking with them. They gonna be happy
Starting point is 01:14:56 when you win. Right. They not, you know, dudes have testosterone. Balls. You know, we got nuts.
Starting point is 01:15:01 You supposed to wanna be number one. You supposed to go and eat the food you kill. That instinct is all the time. You're supposed to want to be number one. You're supposed to go and eat the food you kill. That instinct is all the time. You're supposed to be a savage at all times. So I'm not trying to be around a bunch of savages all the time. I'm a savage. You understand?
Starting point is 01:15:14 I want to be around women. Now, other niggas, women. You don't miss the music. Not a little bit. Let me ask you a question. What would I miss about it? You tell me. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:24 So why would I go back? Why are you trying to get me? No, because I just... What's the purpose? Because you know why. Why don't we bring the music business with us someplace else?
Starting point is 01:15:33 You know why. That's what I used to do. That's what I'm saying. Like, I had niggas making movies. I was taking niggas... Like, I was taking you to Europe.
Starting point is 01:15:40 I wanted to educate you. Yes, you did. I was sophisticating you. Yes, you did. That's why I started opening up art galleries because hip-hop was getting too stupid to me. I was likeating you. That's why I started opening up art galleries because hip-hop was getting too stupid to me. I was like, yo.
Starting point is 01:15:48 I'm not saying that I'm that powerful, like I'm the Wiz. I'm just saying if I can lead by example, then I'm going to start doing things like taking care of my kid in public. I'm going to start doing things like art. You're the best hip-hop dad. Let's make some noise for him.
Starting point is 01:16:03 He's the best fucking hip-hop dad. I'm saying that on camera. we talked about it on the podcast Do you think it's out of the realm of possibility To have a union in hip hop Like SAG Yeah I want to have a union He wants the flag We talked about the flag
Starting point is 01:16:16 I want a hip hop flag I think the union Or like SAG You can tell me I'm retarded You can tell me I'm retarded It's not retarded Ideas are great Right
Starting point is 01:16:22 Especially when you're drunk and you're high They say I'm good Well that's all the time here in Drink Champ But you have to think about the amount of work It's going toarded. Ideas are great. Right. Especially when you're drunk and you're high, they sound good. Well, all the time here at Drink Champ. But you have to think about the amount of work it's going to take to make that happen. But, you know, actors got sag. Why we can't have... Do you hear what I said? Yeah, it's a lot of work to get that.
Starting point is 01:16:35 So that's why. So who's going to do it? You? A lot of legalities. A lot of paperwork. I'm going to pay somebody to do it. Exactly. All right.
Starting point is 01:16:41 That's a lot of paperwork. Who's going to do that? And who's paying for it? A nigga named Tito from L.A. I'm paying for it. But a nigga named Tito, he lot of pay. Who's going to do that? And who's paying for it? A nigga named Tito from L.A. I'm paying for it, but a nigga named Tito, he's going to sit for a lot. He's going to put his credit card
Starting point is 01:16:49 in his pocket. Let me make some money with Tito. Goddamn it. But listen, damn. You know what I'm saying? Like Big Al.
Starting point is 01:16:55 Big Al. He got murdered, right? I don't know who paid for his funeral, but shouldn't hip hop come and pay? Like I said, like one time, me, Snoop, and Raekwon was trying to do something.
Starting point is 01:17:09 I forgot what he was calling it. The hip-hop. Wasn't Irv Gotti trying to do something too? Nah, we was trying to do it. Like we was all at a video shoot and we was like, you know, we all had these conversations. Right. But we're all really creative. Right.
Starting point is 01:17:21 You know, like infrastructure and execution and cash flow and convincing people and all of that other shit. You know, I got to take care of my kids. And I got to make sure that, you know, that I'm doing it in a way that my kids will be taken care of and their kids will be taken care of. And I'm doing it under, I'm under a lot of scrutiny and shit like that. So everyone has their own set of problems. I'm human. We all human. We all want to relax. of problems. I'm human, we all human. We all want to relax.
Starting point is 01:17:47 We all chose this creative life so we ain't got to work. It's going to take some very non-creative people to execute that, but non-creative people usually don't see the need to care about a creative. It's like a gift and a curse. But who's going to execute it? So who did it for the actors, for SAG? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:18:03 Some white people, man. Exactly, but I'm saying it's going to take someone to step up and do it. Who's going to do it? I'm going to pay for it, but I'm not going to do the action. You're going to pay for that over your Christmas gifts for your kids? No, no. What are you saying right now? I don't get it.
Starting point is 01:18:17 So you're saying it's a good idea, it's just not realistic. It's not executable, yeah. It's not executable. You know, you've got to pick and choose your wars. Right, right. So it's like, yo, how much time is it going to take to do that? How much money and what can I do in the time I'm doing that? You're going to lose your life doing it.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Yeah, that's something that you can step onto and it's moving. But to make that go, it's going to take a lot. It should happen. But who the fuck got time to do all that? Who got enough money? Some very rich fan would have to fund that. So maybe you can, you know. No, but what I'm saying is, Dave, right?
Starting point is 01:18:43 I'm telling you, the idea is great, but it's the execution that's not going to happen. Right, right. Because we just need to get... We're going to say no to that. Yeah, it's great. I should be a billionaire, too. I want a football team. Yeah. Yeah, but so... A football team. If they don't just give it to me.
Starting point is 01:18:59 Your dreams is bigger than an average nigger. Absolutely. Niggers just want to play football. Two-hand touch. You me ask you a question. You want to own the shit. What other way should my dreams be after my own? There'll be no cap on shit.
Starting point is 01:19:09 What other way should I be thinking? Niggas want to play in the wing, two-hand touch, and you want to own the wing. Let's make some noise here.
Starting point is 01:19:14 God damn it. God damn it, Dave Dash. Pick up your brother, Bobby Dash. He from Leftrack. You know that, right? Of course I know that. He's my brother.
Starting point is 01:19:22 He's from Leftrack. You got Leftrack in you, bro. Come on, Leftrack City, man Listen, listen I used to be in Leftrack To see my brother there Oh, that's right, that's right Swapping and all that And you did the reality show
Starting point is 01:19:31 I respected that, man Ultima Useless? No, um With your brothers Oh, the one in, uh Yeah Yeah It felt like you became
Starting point is 01:19:39 A better person there Did you feel like A better brother, at least A better brother Nah, but you Come on, Dame Let's leave it like that You're not a better brother Of course Anything can feel like a better brother? Yeah, they added it like that. Come on, Damien, let's leave it like that. You're not a better brother? Of course, any therapy makes you a better brother.
Starting point is 01:19:50 If I'm not a better brother today than I was yesterday, then I'm sleeping. I'm always supposed to be evolving. You know what I mean? But yeah, it was good. It was logical. It definitely helped me because I needed the therapy because at the time I couldn't see my children. So I was like, damn. The thing was, I had a lot to talk about.
Starting point is 01:20:06 I was like, yo, I want to talk about this shit with my kids because that shit is fucking hurt. That's what I wanted to talk about. They never really showed a lot. They didn't show what I was upset about. It was just one-sided. But we did a lot of therapy. So they edited it a certain way.
Starting point is 01:20:22 But you got to remember, it'd be like out of one therapy session, they could have gave you a whole season. It was that long, you would be in therapy. So they edited it a certain way. But you got to remember, it'd be like out of one therapy session, they could have gave you a whole season. It was that long you would be in therapy. Can I buy that CEO line from you? I brought you some of the bag. No, I want to own a CEO line. Can I get that? What you talking about? Let me buy it from you.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Let me get that CEO line. You want the whole line? Yeah, I want the whole line. Let me get it. I don't even know what's going on right now. I don't know. What are we talking here, dude know what's going on right now. I don't know. What are we talking here, then? What are you drinking, man? I don't know. I'm just trying to be mogul with you for a second in front of people.
Starting point is 01:20:52 You're playing with, you're doing the Monopoly mogul right now. Oh, you're saying I'm playing with it? Nah, you already did your mogul shit. You know what you did? If you want to do that, why don't you say, look, we're doing a partnership for our podcast, which is true, right? And we start to talk about, you know, what the situation is. So what's the situation?
Starting point is 01:21:07 This nigga's a great businessman. You see, he did not let me get away with nothing. Let's make some noise. I'm a businessman. Let's make some noise for Dan Jazz. You know what I mean? Make some noise. Can you imagine if you give him our numbers and he goes to bat for us with the numbers?
Starting point is 01:21:20 I know the numbers. I'm watching. Listen, let me tell you something. What do you mean? I'm reposting. This is the reason why I keep asking you if you miss music. Because you know why? I know the numbers. I'm watching. Listen, let me tell you something. What do you mean? I'm reposting. This is the reason why I keep asking you if you miss music
Starting point is 01:21:27 because you know why? I listen to music. Let me just tell you something, Dane. I've never seen a CEO rep for an artist the way you rep. Well, that's how I'm repping for my son, Bugs.
Starting point is 01:21:38 That is hands down. Let me just tell you something. I appreciate that, though. That is hands down the most... Like, when I was young, like, when you did that meeting with me, and you got me a big number
Starting point is 01:21:49 that I needed at the time... But why would you trust them anything else they would say after that? No, but I didn't know, because, you know, at the time, you was yelling. And you was insulting them, but when I took out the yells... He was having fun with it. It was like those punching bags, man. I realized everything you said was right and exact.
Starting point is 01:22:06 And everything you've been saying has been right and exact as I got older. So what you're saying is if I could have... And there's nobody like you in the music. We need you back, Dane. Do you know how old I was back then? But, Dane, we need you back in music. You know what I'm saying? Can I get a lighter back that you gave me and you took it back?
Starting point is 01:22:21 Petty gang. We need you back in music, Dane. You know what I'm saying? Listen to me. Look at it from my perspective. No, but you're not listening to me. We need you back in music Listen to me Look at it from my perspective No but you're not listening to me We need you back in music I said it like four times
Starting point is 01:22:29 Can we Can we listen Because you know You know my man Ali Sammy I don't understand what you're saying Ali Sammy It's rhetorical I guess
Starting point is 01:22:36 We're going to set up A management company And we're going to set up Some shit But we need you back in the music How about I'll advise you I like that Advisor Advisor Consult all day I'll advise you? I like that.
Starting point is 01:22:45 Advisor. Advisor man. Consult all day. I'll advise you. I'll tell you. Let's make up a word. Advisor man. Why make up a word and not say I'm going to advise you? Advisor man.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Come on. Roll with it, Dave. I love it. This is Drink Champs. We're changing my show. We're just at 840. We can make it whatever way we want. Advisor man.
Starting point is 01:22:59 I just, I thought we were doing business. Dave is now Drink Champs. Doing a business meeting. Ali, Sammy. Environment. Randy, Mr. Lee. doing business. Dave is now Drink Champs. Doing a business meeting. Ali, Sammy. Environment. Randy Acker, Mr. Lee's. Tito. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:09 Advisorman. Let's make some noise. I'll Skype. Advisorman. I'll Skype. All right. We'll Skype. Skype?
Starting point is 01:23:16 Yeah. Damn, you mad rich like that. You don't even want to go to meetings. We don't even need you in the meetings. That's the thing. You want me to come to a meeting with Randy Acker? Yes. And I want you to be.
Starting point is 01:23:24 For like entertainment? Like for what? But y'all are on the same time. We're on the the meetings. That's the thing. You want me to come to a meeting with Randy Acker? Yes, and I want you to be there. For, like, entertainment? Like, for what? But y'all are on the same time. We're on the same side. Okay. And now this time. Why don't you? Let me tell you what you didn't know.
Starting point is 01:23:33 Can I do this? Can I say this? Okay, go ahead. All right. I have no problem with getting in the room with those people. If we're talking about something that's a little more evolved. Like, I keep telling you, I don't want to do something that I've done before. So why would I want to do this right now?
Starting point is 01:23:49 I'm fucking feeling. You don't want to train no more. I'm 45 years old. You ran trains a lot of times. What I'm saying is, logically speaking, the music that you're talking about, the demographic is 15. Did you run trains? It's 15 to 25. No, he's being serious with you, dog.
Starting point is 01:24:01 Come on, man. It's 15 to 25. I'm 45. It's not logical. It's 15 to 25. I'm 45. It's not logical. 16 to 24. See, that's how far I've been away. You know now. So now the millennials, it's 16 to 24.
Starting point is 01:24:15 I'm still 20 years older than the oldest demographic. So why would I want to go and be fucking around with people that aren't even going to understand what I'm saying? And that age demographic didn't understand me when they were my age. But you know why you need to do that? go to nursery school.
Starting point is 01:24:30 But let me explain. Because you got to let a rock star be a rock star. A 25 year old got to be able to go be a 25 year old. Right. Like I just don't understand,
Starting point is 01:24:37 right? When we was doing this with all this money, we was in our 20s. What the fuck? How they was expecting us that? The thing that was dope about it Is that we didn't do
Starting point is 01:24:46 Stuff that nobody did So we gonna take your son We just He gonna be a part Of the management He could be a part of it If he wants to Come on
Starting point is 01:24:53 You can ask him What I teach him If you don't enjoy it Don't do it If it feels like work Do not do it Life's too short man It makes no sense
Starting point is 01:25:02 Not to monetize Something you love Because you become The best at it Because you enjoy it So I don't do nothing. Life's too short, man. It makes no sense not to monetize something you love because you become the best at it because you enjoy it. So I don't do nothing unless it's... If it's not 100 fun on my terms, which now I've done enough where I
Starting point is 01:25:13 can do that, I'm not doing it. I just learned that word monetize. No, you didn't. You lie, man. That means watch everything. No, make money. Make money off of shit. Monetize means... My bad. Yo, but come on. You lied. You, make money. Make money off of shit. Monetize me. My bad. CBS told me that word. They said,
Starting point is 01:25:29 that's why it's not on SoundCloud because they can't monetize it. Didn't they say that? Oh, CBS, yeah. CBS. We're also going to do a beer together, right? Yeah, we're going to do a beer.
Starting point is 01:25:37 A rosé beer. All right, we just said it. We're doing a beer together. A beer. A rosé beer. Big up E-40. He got his beer here? No, but that beer was fucking good.
Starting point is 01:25:44 You like it? The E-40's beer. I don't drink beer and I was drinking the shit out of that beer. Yo, so what's next for y' E-40. He got his beer here? No, but that beer was fucking good. You like the E-40's beer? I don't drink beer, and I was drinking the shit out of that beer. He was drinking it. Yo, so what's next for y'all? What's next for, oh. I see you're turning into a business. Hey, yo.
Starting point is 01:25:52 Whoa, whoa, whoa. This is a one-sided conversation? What the fuck's going on right now? We're going televised. Yeah, but. We're not saying who will. Yeah, the business ain't done yet, so I don't want to talk about it yet. The business ain't done yet, but we're going.
Starting point is 01:26:03 It's probably somewhere around. If and when, maybe. Dave is good. It's logical. No, I mean, the business ain't done yet, though. I mean, y'all in the house. That's right. You take it. Yeah, you should.
Starting point is 01:26:17 They don't take it. The techs are here. I'm like, I know what I would do. I'd be like, yeah, all right. So we're going televised. Puff is logical. Big up Diddy, man. Let right. So we're going televised. And then. Puff is logical. Yeah. Big up Diddy, man.
Starting point is 01:26:27 Let's fuck it. He's excited. He's excited. All right. The ink ain't dry. But we ain't going nowhere else. Fuck it. So yeah, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:26:37 I guess you just blew it up. Thank you, Dane Dash. I mean, you made it obvious. I did? Yes. I mean, when you snapped his puff. It's the biggest bottle on the table. I could have been a survival boy. It's the biggest bottle on the table. I could have been a Ciroc boy.
Starting point is 01:26:46 It's the biggest bottle on the table. Damn. Nah, we actually like the Prada. I got you. That's why it's not open. And we like your Prada, too. I do, too. You give us all love. You're the most consistent bottles on the table. Let's keep it on it. I'm not missing. If I could control the applause, I would be like
Starting point is 01:27:01 applause, because y'all look out. Let's go. God damn it. I respect. I respect. I even, I would be like, applause, because y'all look out. Let's applaud. God damn it. Let's applaud. I respect. I respect. I even asked him. I said, are we getting a check? Because you're my friend.
Starting point is 01:27:11 Everybody else got a check. You know what's crazy? I said, Dame, I could never ask you. No, I was like, but you know what? Honestly, I wouldn't expect nothing less from you. That's why we still friends. Because you're saying I'm a stand-up nigga. Yeah, I always.
Starting point is 01:27:21 You want to make noise for me being a stand-up nigga? If you want to, just do it. Yeah, yeah. God damn it. God damn it. God damn it. Dame. Yo, I always... You want to make noise for me being a stand-up nigga? If you want to, just do it. Yeah, yeah. Goddamn it, goddamn it. Dame. Yo, you my nigga, Dame. Let me tell you something, man. It's not a day that go by
Starting point is 01:27:32 where I don't miss you in music when I do music. Because I don't do music a lot anymore. You're a smart, stupid guy, right? Yes, right. Self-proclaimed.
Starting point is 01:27:40 Self-proclaimed. So there's a little stupid and a little smart stuff. Yes, there's a fact. So it's smart about the music, but there's something dumb about what you're saying. Can I tell you what it is? Because you're saying don't miss you in the music. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:27:50 Listen. I want to miss you in music. Wouldn't you rather make, wouldn't you rather talk to more people, make more money, and have a better quality of living? Yeah, I'm doing that. But I still miss music. It's my first love. Listen to me. Oh, so you're saying do it on some fun shit?
Starting point is 01:28:06 Yeah, with me. On some fun shit. Let's just fuck out. Let's fuck out. This shouldn't be this. Let's fuck out. That's what black rock was, though. This is what I want to do, Dave.
Starting point is 01:28:13 That's what I'm talking about. That's what black rock was. I put the black keys. I saw that. Super cool. And Mos Def and Jim Jones and all of them for fun. So this is what I want to do, Dave. I think we're with Currency after that.
Starting point is 01:28:24 And Merz as well. You know how much you're waiting. You're talking about. I want to do. You know what I'm talking about? And also, why do you keep saying I'm not in the music business? I want you in the music business with me. That's why. Oh, okay. But I've been in the music business. I'm selfish. It's just been a different business.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Like, I just turned into vinyl. But this is my plan. This is what I'm going to do. I'm going to go to a major. I'm going to go to a major. I'm going to get signed. I'm going to make them love Ali. I'm going to make them love Ali. I'm going to make them love Ali.
Starting point is 01:28:45 As soon as they love Ali too much, Ali is going to be like, it's time. And then they're going to call me in. And then they're going to be like, boom. They're going to be like, this is my advisor. So you're going to walk in. It's going to be smoke. Why do I got to walk in, though? Well, I want Purple Smoke to walk in.
Starting point is 01:28:58 He wants to Skype in, man. Come on, just listen to my shit. Stop, stop. You're too much of a boss. Just listen to my shit. Let me just tell you what this is going to become. Purple smoke is going to come in. And then in my mind, you're going to have on basketball shorts, you're going to dunk a ball. It's not even going to be a court.
Starting point is 01:29:11 But you're going to dunk it. Boom! Like, Dave is now talking for me, Ali. I would do that. You would do that? Yeah. Let's make some noise for Dave. That's not good.
Starting point is 01:29:21 He's talking different things. We can do that. You're going to have some fun. I just want me niggas to get Daniel. That's not dangerous though. He's talking different things. We can do that. You're going to have some fun. I just want me niggas to get scared. Because you scare white people. Was you aware of that?
Starting point is 01:29:33 That you scare white people a little bit? The videos you made? You want me to smoke that? Yeah. I don't know why you passed it to me the way you passed it. It looked a little crazy. I was there. Thank you.
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Starting point is 01:34:31 You're in the radio business now. No, I'm in the media business. Thank you. So why do you want me to be in the music business? Because I want to fuck people up. Like I said. Just for fun. Like when I said I did the motor oil for fun. Motor oil.
Starting point is 01:34:42 Let's make some noise for motor oil. God damn it. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody motor oil. Let's make some noise for motor oil, goddammit. Everybody, everybody. Everybody needs oil. Where you get motor oil at? In A-Rabs? No, he's making it. You make it yourself?
Starting point is 01:34:53 No, we get the ingredients, we get the meat. Resourcing it here? In America? Williamsburg, in Brooklyn. I make the oil in Brooklyn. Goddamn. That's a lot of money, man. Boogs ran it for a while,
Starting point is 01:35:02 and then Boogs used to throw parties in the factory. Wow. And you got cookies, too, right? Yeah, he sell cookies. And you got chips. Chips. He got a video game coming out. He got a second season of his television show.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Growing up hip-hop, right? And he got a single. He started producing, but now he's editing and directing, and he's doing everything. All right, one of my favorite TV moments just passed Where Jermaine Dupri said I felt sorry for you What was that about Dane? You roasted him
Starting point is 01:35:34 Bob like you keep roasting right here He said he felt sorry He didn't have your phone number or something? I'm asking I don't know Cause he did rap Radar Let me ask you So um
Starting point is 01:35:47 I gotta Why would someone That's never called me ever And asked me Or checked up on me ever The first time they do it Why would they do that On television
Starting point is 01:35:56 I'm asking you a question Why would they do that What's your logical I don't know I don't know That's what my You saying he was making Television you saying
Starting point is 01:36:03 I just asked you a question I didn't ask what you say... You're saying he was making television, you're saying? I just asked you a question. I didn't ask what you say. Okay. I think he's making television. Because he said... Can I borrow the mic? The part that I didn't like is when he said he felt sorry for you. I didn't like it.
Starting point is 01:36:16 Who said that? Jermaine Dupri. I found it amusing. Right. I didn't like it. Because, like, if you know Dame, you know Dame is great forever. He going to get money. Like I said, I didn't like that. Because, like, if you know Dame, you know Dame is great forever. He going to get money. Like I said, I found it amusing.
Starting point is 01:36:28 And then you said to him, you said, well, why you ain't call me? Yeah. That fucked him up. That fucked him up. That fucked him up. I don't know why. He said shit. He said shit.
Starting point is 01:36:38 He said shit. He said shit. No, no. If I'm fucked up, don't tell me you feel sorry for me. Leave the lunch box with money in it. Oh, I got that. And don't say nothing. That's my weed in there. I was saying. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, leave tell me you feel sorry for me. Leave a lunch box with money in it. Don't say nothing. That's my weed in there. I was saying.
Starting point is 01:36:48 Don't even talk about it. With weed or money? No, money. If you feel the way. Or if you think I'm not high, leave me some weed. If you think I'm fucked up and you want to bring it to my attention, bring some money with it. Right. What's the purpose of telling me?
Starting point is 01:37:00 So you feel better? Like, what the fuck? Let's make some noise for Dame Dash. Never been fucked up in this life. This is my nigga. I'm always fucked up. I spend it all every day. I bet the bank until I get what I want.
Starting point is 01:37:13 I'm going to keep betting the bank until I get a football team. So I'm going to stay broke because I'm always having money in the street. I heard you say that before. If y'all want to call that broke, then call it broke. But break it down for the people
Starting point is 01:37:22 that don't know. Call it living. I need to get that football team. So you're saying every time you get it. I can't get it with 25 million or 60 million. I need like a billion. So you're saying every time you get cash, you actually put it back on the street. She puts it back for her.
Starting point is 01:37:34 Have you ever seen me not? Nah, but I just. So why are you asking? No, I just want the people to. Because, you know, we got dumb fans. You can tell it to me. Sometimes you can tell a story about it. So, yeah, because no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:37:41 Because I heard you say that before, but I actually. Everybody knows that, B. I'm not holding no money until I get what I want. I'm going to always put it in the street. Because no one's going to give it to me. So I got story about it. So, yeah, because no, no, no, because I heard you say that before, but I actually... Everybody knows that, B. I'm not holding no money until I get what I want. I'm going to always put it in the street because no one's going to give it to me, so I got to take it. But you need some bread.
Starting point is 01:37:50 You got to have some money on the street to take it. And you know, sometimes it's what it is, man, until you re-up, man. But think about it. In the street, right? You get an eighth,
Starting point is 01:37:59 you're going to fucking flip down every dollar you got to go get a quarter. Right. Maybe just keep a little bit because you know you're going to get that cash flow anyway. And the minute you're at the street, you got money to touch. quarter Right Maybe just keep a little bit Because you know You're going to get That cash flow anyway Right
Starting point is 01:38:06 And as soon as you're At the street You got money to touch But as soon as it comes back Then you're going to Keep flipping it Until you get that bird Everybody want to get to a bird
Starting point is 01:38:12 But you're going to Keep flipping it all You're going to keep Whatever's in your pocket Right Whatever's going to Hold you down For a couple days
Starting point is 01:38:19 Until you can get Like in ten minutes After you cop it Bottle up and put it On the street You got cash Right But you're always
Starting point is 01:38:24 Flipping everything I don't know I don't know how to do it No other way Right I just keep flipping But like in 10 minutes after you cop it, bottle it up and put it on the street, you got cash. But you're always flipping everything. I don't know how to do it no other way. I just keep flipping. So when I make money from Rockefeller, go to Rockwell. When I make money from Rockwell, I went to Rachel Roy. When I make money from Rachel Roy, I go to Dame Dash Studios. And making my movies. And building my platforms.
Starting point is 01:38:41 Like I got Dame Dash Studios. I got a streaming service. I got what everybody else got, but it's just mine. And the network. You got the TV network now. I got a 24-hour TV network. I launched it first on the internet, but it's 24-7 Dame Dash.
Starting point is 01:38:51 And everything I'm talking about, I'm showing it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't gonna just talk about it. I taped it. Everything you said, even down there when you brought back
Starting point is 01:38:58 to the Memphis Bleak conversation, that's on tape. You know it. You know it. Yeah, talk about that. That just, you know, I love Bleak. Bleak is my brother No matter what
Starting point is 01:39:06 But the conversation was It's good to hear you say Hold on fuck that It's good to hear you say Let's make some noise For that god damn Cause you know why You know me better than that
Starting point is 01:39:14 I know that I know it But people I'm really mad But the rumor is Listen listen You're like don't do that No I won't
Starting point is 01:39:22 Don't ruin me But I won't Don't do that I know better than a rumor. I speak to you all the time. You my nigga. But the rumor is like, you running around bitter. And I know you've never been bitter.
Starting point is 01:39:32 I know you never, you always do your thing. So I just want the people to know that. Because that's my job. I'm not going to ever say I'm bitter. But if you discuss something, people, like, you got to remember something. Disappointed? You think you're disappointed? Listen, listen, listen. Every day in my life, if I'm in a but if you discuss something, you got to remember something. Disappointed? You think you're disappointed? Listen, listen, listen.
Starting point is 01:39:45 Every day in my life, if I'm in a certain area, I'm getting questions asked about it every day. So it's always going to be talked about. So like right now, you ask me questions about it, and you my nigga, I'm not going to not answer it. But it's going to look like I'm talking about it. Like in a breakfast club, y'all had light-skinned bitches? Yeah, that's why I didn't want to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:40:05 Envy, was that light-skinned beef? Yeah, that's why I didn't want to talk about it. Yeah. Envy, was that light-skinned shit? Or like, you put envy on. I didn't consider that beef, pause. But like, what was,
Starting point is 01:40:12 like, cause. I just was saying what I felt. I was being poetic, I was being an artist. And envy? What about it?
Starting point is 01:40:18 The sky. The sky. Is that a little bit? A little bit? You think I'm thinking about another dude? Oh, I'm just asking. Ask me about a bit? A little bit? You think I'm thinking about another dude? I'm just asking. Ask me about a chick.
Starting point is 01:40:27 Envy? Wow. Come on, man. That's my nigga. That's my nigga. I ain't making music no more, so nigga can't do shit to me. That's my nigga. That's my nigga.
Starting point is 01:40:38 I love him. Why would I be thinking about him if I'm not in the music business? I love him. I love him. I'm sorry, Envy. It don't make logical sense. That was a joke, Envy. I rhymed in your mom business. I love him. I love him. I'm sorry, Envy. It don't make logical sense. That was a joke, Envy. I rhymed in your mom's basement.
Starting point is 01:40:47 Forgive me. Wow. And Angie Martinez, forgive me as well. I don't know why Angie. She's not taking my calls. It was with the Cisco with the Vegas episode. But that wasn't my fault. It actually was your fault.
Starting point is 01:40:58 But I, I, I, Angie, I'm so sorry. I apologize. That's your people. You can't be mad with Angie. I know, but that wasn't my, like, I'm so. But you didn't violate it? No, I didn't violate it. No, somebody asked me to ask about her,
Starting point is 01:41:10 and I didn't know that she didn't fuck with him. Right, no, you didn't know it. No, I didn't know. So Angie Martinez, I apologize. I'm texting you and calling you. Please call me back. I apologize. Nah, shit.
Starting point is 01:41:22 Well, we can't have her. She don't want to come on the show? No, she wanted to, and then she reneged. And I. Well, we can't have her. She don't want to come on the show? No, she wanted to and then she reneged. And I'm sorry, Angie. She's like Angie's sister, so you know if she's really that offended because she's not like... It was just personal shit.
Starting point is 01:41:36 It's not that. I'm saying, for my interaction with Angie, she's always been pretty stand-up. I can't see her reacting unless she's really upset. So if she's really that upset... It was personal shit that came up. You should talk to her. I have to. I'm sorry, Angie. I can't see her reacting unless she's really upset. So if she's really that upset... It was personal shit that came up. I have to. I'm sorry, Angie. I swear to God I would never violate you or put you
Starting point is 01:41:51 in a position. But let me ask you, Dane. Do you... You don't miss the music industry. You don't miss the music industry. You asked him a million times. Don't go for it again. Do you miss the original crew, like how y'all had it in the beginning? Do you miss those days?
Starting point is 01:42:08 Because, like, listen, my nigga, I'm going to keep it honest. Akineli used to bring me on tour. Akineli is my nigga. Akineli used to bring me on tour, so I seen it. We had Akineli. I seen it. I always see everything on IG. But, yeah, Akineli is my brother, too.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Do you miss Do you miss Good dude man When it was I don't want to say no money Let me ask you a question Do you miss summer camp I've never been to summer camp But I definitely
Starting point is 01:42:33 Where did you relax And get your nice place Like when you were younger I went to DFY Did you Do you miss DFY No That's jail
Starting point is 01:42:41 Oh Where did you have fun at When you were a kid? What was the best thing you had? Section 2. That's fucked up. Yeah. I mean, I was from left to right.
Starting point is 01:42:52 You did a lot. Yeah. But do I miss that? Yeah. As a kid? Yeah. No. The way you feel about that is somewhat a way I feel about the music business.
Starting point is 01:43:03 But I'm talking about y'all was all friends. And I'm not, you know, just a crew. Like Big Face Gary, Lenny S. Listen to me. Understand me. I'm 45 years old. This is not entourage. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:43:14 So in this very moment, raising my daughter and raising my son and having puppies and having a girlfriend. Like the thing about the music business And the music biz It's a lifestyle You can't raise your kids And be in the music business Not properly And you can't really I don't want to just justify it
Starting point is 01:43:32 Like I'm sending money And all that Like I really enjoy The time I spend with Like you said You see what it is with me So I know what it is You know I had Boogs
Starting point is 01:43:42 He grew up in the music business It became a lifestyle for him. He was with me everywhere I went. He made me feel mad at old. Because I see the nigga as a kid. But the thing is, you have a single dad at eight. He lived with me since he was eight years old. We need to praise you more for that.
Starting point is 01:43:54 Well, nobody told us. We need to praise you more. Think about it. Everybody make noise and clap for that. For real. For real. For real. For real.
Starting point is 01:44:05 Continue. No Nah continue now Cause I ain't gonna lie So to me again You always had your kids around To me like The fact that I was able to take Everything I got
Starting point is 01:44:15 From the music business And now provide A good life for my children It's like a drug dealer dog Once they get the big lick They out They not trying to go back I didn't
Starting point is 01:44:24 I wasn't doing that because I loved it. I loved it. We were friends, but I want to be around my girl all day, every day, 24-7. Big ho. Yeah. You know. Rocky.
Starting point is 01:44:39 That's funny, right, Rocky? And I want to be with my kids 24-7. I have to tell her I love her Because you know why I can tell you love her I know And if you love her I love her I already know
Starting point is 01:44:49 And you know what Like I knew you for almost Like 18, 17 years And I can tell you happy My brother Yeah I can tell you really happy If I was happy
Starting point is 01:45:01 I'd be trying If I wasn't happy I'd be trying to get In the music business That's what I'm saying I'm so happy So I'd be trying to get in the music business. That's what I'm saying. I'm so happy. So let's just make him unhappy a little bit. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:45:12 I've been able to architect my life where I can work by a pool or move around as I choose. I can work because it's my money. So that means I can move when I feel like it. And I can pick my kids up anytime I want and anytime I'm allowed to. Like, I gotta also fight shit that people don't usually have to fight for. I got to fight to raise every one of my kids. I ain't got to go to court. It's crazy,
Starting point is 01:45:34 right? But I'm not gonna do that. You understand? Yeah, we don't have to. But my point is We don't even want to talk about what you want to talk about. But just like how no one really talks about publicly that I'm a single dad and have been this whole time. Nah, you're one of the best dads I've ever met. But publicly, why would the people that are trying to make you believe something that's not showcase that? Why?
Starting point is 01:45:53 To showcase that I'm supposed to be such a bad guy. Why they don't ever show the good stuff ever? Why? You remember when I turned the camera on the girl and I was like, why y'all just keep talking about the same shit for the last 10 years? Oh, yeah. Isn't that weird? In the court. I just, I don't'all just keep talking about the same shit for the last 10 years? Oh yeah, I'm in the court. I just,
Starting point is 01:46:06 I don't care. I'm just curious to know why. Like, why niggas keep talking about the same bill for 10 years? That shit is hilarious to me. Right.
Starting point is 01:46:14 It's a reason, you know what I'm saying? Or why you don't showcase my art galleries? Right. Or why you don't showcase that I open them up around the world?
Starting point is 01:46:20 I have a gallery in the Lower East Side, South Becker, Hong Kong. And you had Beijing, Hong Kong, that's a real... You know, Charlotte, I Becker, Hong Kong. And you had Beijing, Hong Kong. That's a, that's a,
Starting point is 01:46:25 you know, Charlotte, I mean, rather Charleston. Right. And in Charlotte as well. Right. Like,
Starting point is 01:46:31 that's just a good thing. It's not, the one time I was in the newspaper for art, they tried to make it like I sold kiddie art because I did, I let them do some,
Starting point is 01:46:40 kid do, like a child art kind of gallery, like a, Exhibition? Not an exhibition, it was a charity. Wow. They a charity in my in my gallery and they bought the paper but they were like damon selling kiddie art like it's crazy why they make things that are they try to make everything bad everything good look bad and it's like why you know what i'm saying like like they never
Starting point is 01:47:02 talk about the fact that i own r Roy. That's a fashion company. So just because it's not music, I don't have a company that's doing 50 million for the last 10 years straight. I'm fucked up. Not about the investment you made early on. I was smart. I did it where I had it. And now, you know, that's another thing. Like, fuck around Donald Trump.
Starting point is 01:47:18 He could flip all those investments he's talking about. Every single lawsuit I have, they always put it in there and pause. But when I win, the only time they ever announced that we won is when it was with Kanye with Los Adas. They made a little light announcement, but they never make it. But when I get sued for the stupidest shit, it's like everywhere. All right, your son not around no more, so now we got to ask you this question that we ask every artist. Oh, man, come on. This is where we lose Johnson & Johnson?
Starting point is 01:47:41 This is where you lose ass. You eat ass, Dame Dash? I'm not answering that. Thank you, man. Stop, man. What did Rick Ross? He doesn't want to say that. He said I eat jerk on.
Starting point is 01:47:52 He don't. Litter pepper on Rick Ross. I'm not talking about my personal business like that. Let's make some noise for Dame being professional. God damn it. That was not normal. God damn it. We would lose all endorsements.
Starting point is 01:48:04 No, we lose endorsements. No, no. We lose it. No, No, we lose endorsements. No, we lose it. No, we lose endorsements. I'm not even worried about your endorsements. We got business here. We retarded over here, Dave. I don't think you're retarded. I think you're pushing the bar.
Starting point is 01:48:15 Yeah, because you know what? Nobody else can ask you that. Why would somebody want to know? Obviously, this guy wants to know. Snoop Dogg. Yo, there's too many niggas in the room to be talking about eating ass and all that. That's like watching a porno with a bunch of niggas.
Starting point is 01:48:28 We never knew that. We never knew that. That's why you want to be in the music business. No, no, because it... Because we do a million. God damn it. God damn it. And they love this.
Starting point is 01:48:40 This is the fans. He took a shot. He took a clear shot. I didn't take a shot. You were taking a shot all fucking day. What are you talking about? I didn't take a shot. You were taking a shot all fucking day. What are you talking about? I didn't take a shot. Let's take a shot together.
Starting point is 01:48:49 Come on. You want a Dusko? Yeah, why not? Let's drink Dusko with you. I'm going to do it. All right. Because you know why? I'm going to support anything Dame Dash does.
Starting point is 01:49:00 And it's good though. If you want to sell pink toenails tomorrow. Why would I want to sell pink toenails? It doesn't matter. This is the type of nigga I am with you. This nigga's crazy. If you sell pink toenails tomorrow, it doesn't matter. This is the type of nigga I am with you. If you sell pink toenails tomorrow, I'm going to support it, God damn it. That's good toenails. That's good toenails.
Starting point is 01:49:14 I ain't been the same since you left. I know. You need to come with us, dog. You know, but you're doing it. At Art Gallery? I already did that, dog. I'm going to need you to. I hate art, game.
Starting point is 01:49:24 I don't even understand. You don't hate art. We're doing art. Listen to me. I like though. I'm a movie turd. I hate art, Dame. I don't even understand. You don't hate art. We doing art. Listen to me. I like graffiti. I don't do it anymore. That's art. I had art galleries. Now, my wave right now is I have a television network. So I'm making movies. Let's blow that up. Where can people see the television network at? Dame-studios.com
Starting point is 01:49:40 Dame-studios.com You got your own Netflix. Didn't you have a hoodflix? No Or something like that? Nope Alright listen I've never drank whiskey in my life
Starting point is 01:49:49 This is my first time my nigga Here you go I'ma do it with you I feel like I'ma throw up right now Like as you pour it I feel like I'ma throw up Before you do that That would be bad for business
Starting point is 01:50:00 Alright let me get a glass Maybe that shot shouldn't be so Why you wanna do a shot? Maybe we'll drink it slow. You should sip that, though. That should be sipped. I gotta get it over with. He should sip it. Mr. Lee,
Starting point is 01:50:13 you got a big butt. That's your butt? Yo! What's going on with you today, man? It's my flag ring. My socks is going down. This nigga's tripping, man. Nigga's ass broke the fall. You ready?
Starting point is 01:50:31 We're going to do a shot. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You ready? We do it. That's nice. This nigga is tripping hard. You ready?
Starting point is 01:50:41 All right. I'll show you how we do shots. You ready? You got a shot? Come on, Dame. I'll take a shot? I'll take the picture. I'll take the picture. Come on. Get your shot ready, Dame.
Starting point is 01:50:49 You got to drink your own shit on camera. I know, but you got to drink your own shit on camera. 50? You made 50 Cent drink his own shit on camera as well. You don't have to make me do anything. I volunteered. No problem. I just said, just give me a second.
Starting point is 01:51:00 All right, cool. You know, like, we about to have a race. It don't mean we got to go when you say so. That nigga's so much of a mogul, he can't stop being a boss. You can't stop being a boss. I'm not used to it. He should never stop being a boss. He felt like I was pushing him. You are pushing him.
Starting point is 01:51:16 I'm trying to get my mind right. I'm like, this nigga is killing me. You want some slurricane, Drew? Hey, man, that shows the friendship, guys. Now, this my nigga, my nigga. This my nigga. This my nigga. Yo, you know, you're a funny ass nigga. This my nigga. Yo, you remember when we used to, guys. Nah, this my nigga, my nigga. This my nigga. This my nigga. You're a funny ass nigga.
Starting point is 01:51:26 This my nigga. Yo, you remember when we used to, yo, I ain't gonna front. You told me to come to a photo shoot one day and you had the model bitch, the black model bitch.
Starting point is 01:51:35 I was like, damn. I hope you're not cool with her. I called her a bitch. I didn't mean that. And he brought Mariah Carey to the hood live. And you brought Mariah Carey to the hood live. Yo, listen Mariah Carey to the hood lab.
Starting point is 01:51:46 Yo, listen, I was paying mad. I paid a lot of rent. But I didn't know how to be fly with it. See, you had an apartment downtown. I ain't gonna front. That was one of the flyest lofts I ever seen. But I ain't want to take your swag. I seen your shit.
Starting point is 01:52:01 No, because I want to do my own shit. Because I'm a boss, too. In my mind, for sure. Back then. I ran to the studio and I invited you and you said, I'm going to bring MC through. And I was like, alright, cool. Tell that nigga it's all love.
Starting point is 01:52:17 Because I ain't know what the fuck you meant. This nigga came through with Mariah Carey. And this is the craziest shit in the world, right? Mariah Carey comes upstairs. Nigga Dame immediately flips on her security. He's like, yo, she's with Nori. She's okay.
Starting point is 01:52:33 Get the fuck out of here. And the guy goes, he goes, yo, Nori, is it cool? And I'm looking. I'm mad confused because I don't want to offend him. I don't want to offend the security. I'm like, I got Mariah Carey in my studio. We only been open two days. I'm like, yo, I don't want to offend.
Starting point is 01:52:50 He said, if you tell me he's good, he's good. I said, yeah, he's good. And then the security walked out. And then Mariah kept walking around, right? And this is the funniest shit in the world. Mariah kept walking around. I told my nigga, stop following her. And she said, no, it's OK.
Starting point is 01:53:03 This is the only time they're going to see me. So, like, she said. Now, Mariah stunts. Yo, she was like, yo, let my niggas. She said, let them niggas follow me and like my weed. Oh, excuse me. Did I say it? I didn't say she smoked weed.
Starting point is 01:53:17 I didn't say that. I didn't say that. Mariah's stunt game is on 5,000. I mean, you can't fuck with Mariah. She's on it all day Mariah we love you Come on drink champ She talks that talk
Starting point is 01:53:28 She's good money She's solid She's good money We gonna do this shot then? Honestly she'll probably Yeah Where your shot at? Right here man
Starting point is 01:53:35 Did you pour it? Look at that To Dusko Thank you Make sure you Can you possible What? That's why they listen That's why they listen.
Starting point is 01:53:45 What did you say just now? You going to rewind that slow? Never rewind it. Never rewind it. Never rewind it. This is why we win. I don't even know what the fuck he said. Sal, look, come on.
Starting point is 01:53:55 Eye to eye. Eye to eye. What are you talking about? Amapia style. Did you, oh. Ah. No better than that. Look at you.
Starting point is 01:54:04 Look at you Look at you It's a zipper Get it together That's a zipper Get it together Let's go champ Let's go champ Grab me
Starting point is 01:54:11 It's fantastic Give me your chocolate Give me your chocolate You wanna use mine? My nigga Don't worry Please I only eat my wife pussy
Starting point is 01:54:20 That's it I don't eat random pussy I don't do that I am married And I'll stay married. Oh, look, EFN, God bless you, God damn it. High five. He's my partner, DJ EFN. Well, he's my partner now, too, right?
Starting point is 01:54:32 That's right. That's right. And we doing the Dame Daz Podcast. What are you naming it? CEO? Whatever you want. So can I buy the clothing line from you? Let me just give it to me.
Starting point is 01:54:41 CEO. I just feel like it deserves me. I feel like you're worried. Yeah, you're random with that one, though. No, no, I feel like you're worried enough. So I feel like I'll buy it to me. CEO. I just feel like it deserves me. I feel like you wore it. Yeah, you ran him with that one, though. No, no. I feel like you wore it enough. So I feel like I'll buy it from you.
Starting point is 01:54:49 You're going to hold the camera. Let me ask you a question. And let me get that. You think you could get drunk off my liquor and rob me? No, I'm not robbing you. Damn, damn, stop. I'm just playing. I'm playing.
Starting point is 01:54:58 Damn, stop. Why can't I have fun with it? I just feel like CEO should be me. Why can't I have fun with it? Because right now I feel like, no, but I feel like you ran your course. How about we do this? Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:09 And then let me buy it from you. Not buy it. All right. Let me take it from here. You know what? Why you up, man? First wait. I've never seen you so close in my life.
Starting point is 01:55:17 Never. Never. But let me see what you do with it. I'm wearing your hat, nigga. No, you ain't got to wear it. No, backwards. You already fucked up. You ain't got to wear it.
Starting point is 01:55:24 Listen, I'm not saying that. I'm saying take the company and do something with it. All right. There you go. I'm wearing your hat, nigga. No, you're not wearing it. No, backwards. You already fucked up. You ain't gotta wear it. Listen, I'm not saying that. I'm saying take the company and do something with it. All right, there you go. I want to see your company. Listen, listen, but if you ain't doing nothing with it,
Starting point is 01:55:31 then I'm taking it back. You're gonna take it back? Yeah. All right, give me a time period. We're gonna do it like six months. Okay. You just gave it to me
Starting point is 01:55:37 to get back? Give me a year. Why don't you just tell me? Why don't you just tell me? Does he get a right of refusal? Yeah, yeah. Why don't you just tell me? Because I'm not gonna... Tell me. Tell you what? Why don't you just tell me? Does he get a right of refusal? Yeah, yeah. Why don't you just tell me? Because I'm not going to.
Starting point is 01:55:45 Tell me. Tell you what? How long do you want? I want six months to a year. I'm going to take the coal line. I'm going to bring it back to Harlem. I'm going to bring it back strong. Listen, listen.
Starting point is 01:55:54 Do what you got to do. Yeah, because you know why? We're going to take it and we're going to say hood CEO. Hood CEO. Whatever you have to do, just do it. Because hood CEO, street CEO. I just want to see what you got to do. Block CEO, gym CEO. It's a bigger picture. you're going to do. Block CEO, gym CEO.
Starting point is 01:56:05 It's a bigger picture. Let me take this vision and let me make it more. Drunk CEO. That's what makes it so nice for me. Hustling. Hustling. Can I just tell you something? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:18 Most CEOs are always drunk. Oh, shit. We did not know that, Dane. Nigga, we make liquor. I'm running home. Shout out to Columbia White. Nah, niggas drink. Nah, nah.
Starting point is 01:56:31 See what you do with it. You got a year, right? So Biggs, Biggs just came home. He been home for a year. A year, and this is your first time seeing each other
Starting point is 01:56:40 when he came to L.A.? Yeah. How was that? How was that? It was good. It was good to see Biggs. Good to see him? Family?
Starting point is 01:56:47 Always. He's my brother. Always. And are y'all planning to do anything together or no? There's no plans in the works. He's doing his thing, you know? Okay. You know, like, people like to do things on their own.
Starting point is 01:56:58 Right. Because they have different points of views and different timing. You know, I think what Biggs is doing is good, and I'm happy that he's happy. Right. But that's just not I've done it I don't want You know what I mean Maybe I don't know
Starting point is 01:57:09 If we're inspired Like I move as I'm inspired But like if you notice Like I don't really like That whiskey is hitting me Fucked up right now It's fun You want another shot
Starting point is 01:57:18 It's good though I thought it was good No no no It's doing all type of shit To my body Nah that shit was smooth That shit was smooth You want another shot?
Starting point is 01:57:25 Let's get away, no. You know, I'm in, Damien. Nah, he shouldn't go there. He shouldn't go there. But, can I continue? Because, you know what? Yeah. You want to continue?
Starting point is 01:57:34 What are you talking about? I forgot. I forgot. Biggs. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, so if you notice, like, this has nothing to do with anything in my past. Mm.
Starting point is 01:57:44 Brand new, fresh. Yeah. So, like, when something's in my with anything in my past. Brand new, fresh. Yeah. So, like, when something's in my rear view, it's just really in my rear view, not to say our relationship, but the business that we do. Unless he wants to do what I'm doing, he's got to do what he's got to do. You know what I'm saying? Fourth of November is doing great. And that's good.
Starting point is 01:57:58 It's a great thing. That's a good thing. And, you know, I'm really happy for him. And I wouldn't, you know, Biggs is a genius. So, you know, I wouldn't think, I've always thought that if he was this person he is today back then. Right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:58:11 Right. It was ill. Biggs was always a little bit, you know, it's a different Biggs. Mm-hmm. But this is the Biggs that we all been waiting for. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So this is what I want to do before we leave.
Starting point is 01:58:20 I'm going to throw out, I've never. That's it? We done? No, no, no. I thought he was doing a shot and all that. Oh. That's a good shot. Another shot, Dave., no, no But I want to take a poquito shot What do you mean a poquito shot the Mexicans
Starting point is 01:58:36 In the Mexican borders only the Mexican I'm gonna, you're the Cuban. A Cuban's in the sand, too. I ain't going to do that to him. All right, let's do it. I ain't going to do that to you. Yo, James, don't do that. You know you challenged me in London. And what happened? We ran out of Armadale. So what are you saying right now? So nobody won.
Starting point is 01:58:52 I can't say y'all won. I can't say I won. Because we just ran out of Armadale. And then you remember, this is how I noticed how these niggas is rich back in the days, right? I remember they're probably rich now. Yeah, I was there. But listen, we had a whole hotel, right?
Starting point is 01:59:07 So I called the shit in London. I'm like, yo, I need more wine and chicken. The guy flips. He goes, you guys drink all the wine and chicken in the whole hotel? And I'm like, damn. Because I'm like, yo, Dave said, listen, everything is taken care of.
Starting point is 01:59:25 You ain't never heard a record label tell you that in your life. I wasn't a record label. I'm sorry. I had a clothing line. I'm sorry. And a liquor. Was that offensive when I called you a record label? No, it's offensive that you don't understand it.
Starting point is 01:59:38 Like, I want you to understand it. Like, I don't take offense. But I'm like, yo, I want you to know. That's what the rest of the world needs to understand. The reason why Rockefeller Was Rockefeller Because it wasn't just a music It was a lifestyle
Starting point is 01:59:48 And we were monetizing Every single part of it From the liquor To the clothing I looked at us Like you know what LVMH is? That whiskey is doing All types of shit to my body
Starting point is 01:59:58 I don't want it to happen But I'm going to continue LVMH LVMH owns like Louis Vuitton But they also own Moet They own Hennessy They own Givenchy They, they own Donna Karan. They own a lot of shit, right?
Starting point is 02:00:11 So I wanted to be LVMH. I wanted to own a lot of companies, but I wanted to be high end, but still authentic. And I'm doing all of those things on my own now with my own money. And it took me to really be like, yo, I know what I want to do. I want to have a television network. I want to have a television network. I want to have a streaming service. Remember, that's the reason why I had the art gallery, just so I could look at them, create things, and tape it so I
Starting point is 02:00:32 could have content. Because I knew in the future, content was king. And what have I been doing the whole time? Content. I've always known that. That's my shit. I said content is king. But was I telling you that back then? You just said that. I'm a time traveler. We were both in the moment.
Starting point is 02:00:46 I go to the future, and then I come back, and then I handle my business. That's what I've been saying. That's my new slogan. How the fuck you just say my slogan? And we didn't even talk about that. Content is king. I've been telling you that. All right.
Starting point is 02:00:57 You did? Yeah. I got it from you again? Were you in movies? Did I steal your shit? Did I put you in movies? You can tell me I stole your shit. Nobody steals it.
Starting point is 02:01:03 But you did. No, I'm not going to lie. When I do something, listen to me. Every time I do something, it's for the world to be influenced. I don't get offended by that. I can't front. I met you, and you said, in two seconds, you was like, I'm putting you in a movie. All right, content.
Starting point is 02:01:16 The movie is content. I thought you was crazy, my nigga. Everybody does. And you said, am I really crazy? You was like, yo, I'm putting you in a movie. I was like, all right, back. And he's like, tomorrow. I was like, all right, back. And he's like, tomorrow. I was like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 02:01:27 And then I did Paper Soldiers. Who starred in that? Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart. Oh, shit. I took him off the stage, too, didn't I? Yep. Let's explain that story.
Starting point is 02:01:36 We need to hear that. OK, what happened? You seen Kevin Hart on stage? Yeah, me, Rachel, and Jay Black, my man from The Best Out. Right. You know, I was doing a movie, so I was going to look for comedians. And I seen him. He was funny because he was like white people, but black people.
Starting point is 02:01:50 He knew how to tease himself. Right. Went backstage. He said some funny shit to Jay Black. Ooh. That's the gangster. Jay Black is the gangster, correct? I mean, he's my brother.
Starting point is 02:02:01 You know what I mean. I don't know. I said he's my brother. All right, cool. Continue. But that's it. But anyway. Pick up Jay Black. Definitely. He's my brother. You know what I mean. I don't know. I said he's my brother. All right, cool. Can't say anything. But that's it. But anyway. Pick up Jay Black.
Starting point is 02:02:06 Definitely. He's a legend. And, you know, so we went backstage and put him in a movie the next day. The next day. Something like that. So Paper Soldiers. Yeah, Paper Soldiers. I directed it.
Starting point is 02:02:17 You did the same shit with me. Michael Rapaport was in it. I was drinking with you one night and you was like, you ever acted before? I was like, what does that mean, acting? He was like, tomorrow, come to Jersey. And I came, and you made me the barber the next day. Yeah, he killed that shit, too. Let's make some noise for you, Shell.
Starting point is 02:02:35 Nobody don't know. And listen, let me also make noise. I was mad fat. You got a joint stand? You got a politics? What's going on right now? Y'all should sit down. Let's also make noise
Starting point is 02:02:47 because a lot of people don't know. I came to audition for Alpo and paid him for it. I didn't do good and I was fat. I was fat at the time. There's no way I could have played Alpo.
Starting point is 02:02:57 Nas came out for that too. Nas came out for Alpo? Yeah. Remember, we walked into What Happens That Day. No, wait up. I don't know the Nas part.
Starting point is 02:03:07 Hold on. Nas came to audition? Yeah. For Alpo World? Yeah. Not the day I was there. I don't know what day it was. Thursday.
Starting point is 02:03:18 But break this down. And this is why y'all beefing? I'm not beefing. What are you talking about? No, I'm talking about You know, like, you know Takeover I don't know
Starting point is 02:03:27 That shit wasn't real to me, man It was fucking music You think I really take that shit serious? I'm sorry You beefing over music? I feel like I feel like I should say sorry You should
Starting point is 02:03:35 The way your face just Cause it's like It's like What kind of nigga you think I am? So Nas came Y'all think I Y'all think I get man over a record? So why did Nas get it?
Starting point is 02:03:44 Do niggas get man over records? They records So why did Nas get it? Do niggas get manned over records? They records. So why didn't Nas get it? Somebody would get fucked up over records. Because Cam got it. Why else? Let me ask you a question. Let me just do logic.
Starting point is 02:03:54 Let's do... You're from Queens, so you're not getting my advice. Yeah, I would pick Nas. I'm from Queens. But you're from Queens. But the logic... The character he played
Starting point is 02:04:01 was not from Queens. He was from Harlem. So why would I have a dude from Queens playing a guy from Harlem? That doesn't make logical sense. And Cam did a hell of a job. Yes, he did. We got Cam.
Starting point is 02:04:11 Cam, come on the show, God damn it. He did. He did. Cam, come on the show, God damn it. We're going to kidnap the dude to God.
Starting point is 02:04:17 Honestly, it would have made sense if I would have brought like a Queens character in and Nas would have played that role. That would have been dope. I called you one day and I said, let's do the Queen side of the story.
Starting point is 02:04:29 Yeah. Is that something you're interested in? Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. I always talk to Bimmy about doing their story, and I know Irv doing his story. Now, Bimmy has a good story. And Irv. And Irv, they got their own thing.
Starting point is 02:04:42 Yeah, but everyone has a perspective on a lot of the same stuff. It's like one thing happened, and it affected a everyone has a perspective on a lot of the same stuff. It's like one thing happened and it affected a lot of different people in a lot of different ways. Like I could have did Payton Full from my perspective. I just chose to do it from AZ's. Right.
Starting point is 02:04:52 But I had a perspective. And then AZ had a quarrel with you after that? He did? I think he... What are you talking about? Listen, a quarrel isn't when someone says something on a show or something. That's not a quarrel.
Starting point is 02:05:04 Right. You know, there's no action. So there wasn't a quarrel. I don't know of any. Right. I think he said, like, the situation happened. I don't want you to tell me what he said. Right.
Starting point is 02:05:12 That's not the conversation we usually have. Exactly. Exactly. Because we're not chatty patties. Exactly. Exactly. Chatty patties. Wow.
Starting point is 02:05:22 Yo, this is my nigga. Yo, Dave Dash, we really love you, my brother. I know that. You're a real dude. We're partners now. You always, yeah, listen. We're naming the Dame Dash podcast. Is there any money on the table?
Starting point is 02:05:32 We get money? Come on, stop that. I just asked. Stop that. We got shot glasses and some plastic cups and a t-shirt. I just asked. I just asked. You know, for years you paid me in clothes.
Starting point is 02:05:42 Are you going to pay me a CEO? I'm going to pay you in liquor. For years You paid me in clothes For You gonna pay me a CEO I'm gonna pay you a liquor For years For years You paid me in clothes I ain't give a fuck You was a great guy Let me ask you a question You gave me the best opportunity
Starting point is 02:05:54 The shit that we talked about Offline on the business I'm not gonna ask for the specifics Did that come true The shit you was waiting on You was like It ain't You know it happened
Starting point is 02:06:02 But it ain't You know I gotta put that You know what I mean When you were Is it what you expected Nah cause You was like It ain't You know It happened But it ain't You know I gotta put that You know what I mean When you were Is it what you expected Nah cause You know why
Starting point is 02:06:08 I fuck with you for real So Like if If you was a nigga I didn't fuck with I'd be like Yeah But I don't know
Starting point is 02:06:16 Cause I got so much shit going on Check it out But Yes But listen Dame Dash But other opportunities Are presenting themselves
Starting point is 02:06:22 Behind it right Yes But no But listen But for you But for you We want you to be with us Dame Dash Podcast But other opportunities are presenting themselves behind it, right? Yes. But no, listen. Like the answer to everything. But for you, we want you to be with us. I want you to be. Dame Dash Podcast.
Starting point is 02:06:29 Let me ask you a question. I always said let's do some business together. Yes, that's right. So whatever it is, it doesn't matter what it was. You said a beer. I said let's do a beer. The movie company, I said, yo, let's do the movie company. So finally you want to do something?
Starting point is 02:06:42 Yes. I'm here. We want to support the Dame Dash Podcast. I want to support anything you're doing too. Right. And if people know, I want to address the people. No, no, no. I'm drunk, but I'm also sober.
Starting point is 02:06:54 You got him drunk. What the fuck? No, I'm drunk, but I'm also sober. Yeah, I know, I know. And for the people that know. Come on, let's do a toast to it. I did a whole interview with my brother, my guy, my friend. And not once did I bring up Jay.
Starting point is 02:07:08 Why you keep saying it? You brought it up just now. Not once, you just brought it up. I did. Second time, actually, second time. How you bring it up by saying you didn't bring it up? No, no, but I want people to understand that you can do a whole fucking shit and you ain't got to speak about that man. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:07:23 You know what I'm saying? you for that respect Because I respect you And I respect your legacy And you know what You personally helped me Oh I'm sorry You looking at it If y'all can take it or not Yeah you have to drink it now
Starting point is 02:07:33 I'm sorry All right Y'all should have sipped it man That shit with ice Would be better man What's going on with my man I thought we was doing this Now you got him dancing
Starting point is 02:07:44 I got Mary dancing. You got dancing. It's like Big Pimpin' right now, man. This is what is happening all over the world. We used to do this. I don't know why. Let me tell you something about Sid Dusko. There's a shooter out of you.
Starting point is 02:07:52 It don't hit you immediately. That's what it is. It did hit you immediately. You started dancing. No, no, no. This is the problem. That's the other shot that hit me. Now it's going to come in like two seconds.
Starting point is 02:08:05 And then I'm going to just start another one. What'd you do? Dance like an Egyptian? Can you take a shot of Seraph for me? I mean, it's no. My son and I. That's more of my shit. Yeah, he's good.
Starting point is 02:08:12 Thank you. That's more of my shit. Take one, man. That's twin. That's the brokest nigga we know. I'm the brokest richest nigga. Nah, you look like the richest nigga. You look happy, man.
Starting point is 02:08:20 I'm just sad. I'm the brokest richest nigga on earth. I always tell someone. Go with everything. Go with everything. Where's Bush Rock? Go with everything. You want to take Where's Bush Rock? Go with everything. You want to take one with me, Dan?
Starting point is 02:08:27 You just. Wait, wait, no, because I want to have more of this. What? Again? Damn, it's enough for me. I got to do another interview. You quit, you quit. I'm with it.
Starting point is 02:08:35 Oh, man. Quit quitting, man. It's a challenge. Nah, he said he missed the drink challenge. No, I never said I was a drink champ. You didn't? CBS told him. I told you he was a drink chat. No, I never said I was a drink chat. You didn't? CBS told him, yo. Nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 02:08:46 I told you he was a drink chat. Can you take my shot? You're not taking a shot. Look. Damn, damn. Real talk. That shit should be drained with ice. That shit should be sipped on.
Starting point is 02:08:55 It should, but he wants to take shots. Poor. He started. He did start it, but why y'all got to keep this? Y'all been doing this for a while, I see. Nah, we did this in London. Y'all been doing this. Me, Down Leezy, Nah, we did this in London. Y'all been doing this. Me, Down Leezy, him, and Biggs.
Starting point is 02:09:07 And we just kept going at it. Let's drink. Let's do it. Are you on one too? I'm with it. He's in. He's in. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 02:09:14 I can't do no more. Give me that cup. I'm going to blow a horn because I just feel good about life. What is it? I feel good about life. I'm glad that you're happy. I'm glad you have a beautiful wife. How you doing?
Starting point is 02:09:26 I'm glad you have dogs. I don't want to take no more whiskey. Look, just keep it on. I'm so glad this is what I take. I'm so glad this is what I take. Let's go. Come on, Dave. See what happens?
Starting point is 02:09:38 You got a beautiful... You want to drink with me? Yeah. It's up to you. Dave, are you ready? If you're switching my drink I'm good Can you take one shot of Ciroc
Starting point is 02:09:47 Show Puff some love He's like He's like halfway from Harlem Right He's like Mount Vernon Harlem Listen Alright
Starting point is 02:09:55 Now He's like halfway right Listen to what I'm saying Is he a Harlem nigga Puff I seen you go to the office Office What'd you say
Starting point is 02:10:03 He went to Puff's office Oh It sounded like an echo Cause at first You thought he was By you cause he bit Money making Mitch I seen you go to the office. What'd you say? He went to Puff's office. Oh, it sounded like an echo. Because at first you thought he was biting you because you bit money-making Mitch. Oh, you thought I'm not on point? I'm on point, Slump. And I got the CEO hat on, and you're not getting it back. One year. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 02:10:18 When you saw Puff, did you ask him that? No, I'm about to ask him that right now. But I'm asking you because you here. Puff's my nigga. But did you feel like he was biting you with the money-making bitch? We made an agreement that we don't do that, so we're not going to do that. But you did kind of feel it. Out of respect.
Starting point is 02:10:31 Because that's why that agreement happened. Whatever was said in that meeting was, yo, me and you don't play like that with each other. You know what I mean? When did that meeting happen? I don't know. But whatever it was. It wasn't a G check. No, it was a conversation amongst men.
Starting point is 02:10:45 Men should be able to talk to each other. But whatever it was, earlier. It wasn't a G-check. No, it was a conversation amongst men. Mm. You know, men should be able to talk to each other. Absolutely. If I just suddenly made you uncomfortable, just like you just did with Angie Martinez. I did. I'm sorry, Angie. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:10:55 Relax, relax. But, you know, sometimes people can be unintentionally, you know, Yeah, I didn't mean to. All I'm saying is You always give a man A conversation And real men Can sit down And have a talk
Starting point is 02:11:07 So I gotta give Puff His props Cause whatever he felt It was always a conversation And whatever I felt Was always a conversation And honestly We've always respected that
Starting point is 02:11:16 So on that respect The question as a Harlem nigga He's always To me When we've had interaction Except for a couple things We've always given each other The respect of what we agree to. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:11:28 And that's respect. So we agree. That's my nigga. Let's big up, Puck Daddy. Let's big up. But Dane, all right. Here's the reverse question. Everybody in the world thinks like you're somewhere in the world, fucked up, broke.
Starting point is 02:11:43 That's what they think, right? They think you bitter. But you're the exact opposite, and I know that because I speak to you. I know that personally. I think what sometimes people get or misunderstand is like, if I tell you something, it's really your subject on how you perceive it.
Starting point is 02:12:04 You can either get mad at it or you can laugh at it. You understand what I'm saying? Just because I might you something It could It's really your subject On how you perceive it Like you could even get mad at it Or you could laugh at it You understand what I'm saying? Like just cause I might say something Don't mean I'm mad at it You understand what I mean? It's just said Like I've been through too much therapy
Starting point is 02:12:15 To be mad at anything And I'm enjoying my life And I know what I love You know what I'm saying? So like If something comes up And it gets discussed It might just
Starting point is 02:12:22 It is what it is It doesn't mean bitter You know what I mean? It doesn't mean bitter. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not bitter. How could I be bitter about anything that's happened with Rockefeller? Look how rich we got and how much money and the lifestyle. And, you know, we're legends behind it.
Starting point is 02:12:34 Right. So, you know, how could you really be a man and be bitter about winning? Like, you know, you got to wait. Like, everyone's not going to do everything right. And everyone's win isn't the same win. Right. You understand what I'm saying? Right I'm a guy that believes in friendship And I believe in integrity
Starting point is 02:12:51 And I believe in honor And that's it You know what I'm saying? And you've seen that Respect that No And you also know I'm a guy that likes to laugh Yes
Starting point is 02:12:59 That likes to drink And you'll break on a nigga in a minute You know I'm alright with my knuckles You know what I'm saying? Like just not to be a tough guy You really think You like the jazz I'm alright I'll have interaction
Starting point is 02:13:10 When I was younger I'm 45 I'm not doing that no more I put my I'm not in music I don't have to fight no more What Would you
Starting point is 02:13:17 That was a shot But would you That was a shot directly at me No no It's not a shot at you But would you Would you have changed anything If you could
Starting point is 02:13:24 From those days From playing Rockefeller? Let me ask you one thing Before we get about that No, no, I want him to answer that If he would or wouldn't He did Rockefeller Alright
Starting point is 02:13:32 Is there anything that you regret From that time period? That's a good question Like if you play Any game If you could come back Of course you would adjust And do things so it's perfect
Starting point is 02:13:43 So you don't waste time But at the end of the day It was Rockefeller Right, right But I mean if you could talk to Of course you would adjust And do things so it's perfect So you don't waste time But at the end of the day It was Rockefeller Right right But I mean if you could Talk to yourself It was Rockefeller There's nothing
Starting point is 02:13:50 No more to be said Like we did Like how could you be mad We made Rockefeller Right It's Jay Z It's Kanye It's Cameron
Starting point is 02:13:57 It's like what I'm gonna be mad It's Beanie Right Like all that other shit Niggas be worried about Is Petty The big picture is
Starting point is 02:14:03 We was Rockefeller So just cause we don't See things the same It don't take away From the fact that From the impact Like all that other shit niggas be worried about is petty. The big picture is we was Rockefeller. So just because we don't see things the same, it don't take away from the fact that we was, whether it could have still been or whatever, in that moment, nobody never did that before. So how did you be mad at it? You don't need to spend time being bitter. No, I don't. Like I hung out with Jay-Z.
Starting point is 02:14:23 We laughed. I got drunk with them niggas and shit. Whatever I felt, it didn't matter. We did Rockefeller, and that's the respect we have for one another. We ain't got no time to be talking about petty shit. You know, it's the future. That shit was 20 years ago. Right.
Starting point is 02:14:36 You know what I mean? Like, you can't be doing that shit for 20 years and be mad about something. In the moment, you could feel a certain way, but you got to evolve. Right. But nobody's mad. We made Rockefeller. I walk around, I'm not a regular nigga just because of Rockefeller. Even though I did other things, Rockefeller's heavy. Even though I put Lee Daniels in business, who does power, and Kevin Hart, and Rachel
Starting point is 02:14:56 Roy, and every other thing that I've done, I got Rockefeller with that. I don't have to do nothing, and I got Rockefeller. Everything else is extras. You understand what I mean? So how could else is extras. You understand what I mean? So how could you be mad? It's too much time wasted on being mad. But that's not what I said. I didn't ask you if you were mad. You said bitter.
Starting point is 02:15:12 No, I said the people say that. Another thing is, who cares what people say? No, I just said, you know, I got a job. You're bleeding what people say. Who cares? I don't know. It's flies. It's real. No, that's a gangster fly that's in here. It's a gangster fly. You understand in here. It's a gangster fly.
Starting point is 02:15:25 It's flies. You understand what I'm saying? I'm never worried. I'm not. You can't. Yo, let me say something. You can't. You can't.
Starting point is 02:15:31 You can't be a public figure if you care what the public thinks. That's dumb right there. Wait, say that again. You can't be a public figure if you care what the public thinks. Of course. That's stupid. Have I ever done anything? Anything. Have you ever done anything, anything,
Starting point is 02:15:46 have you ever seen me care? No. Other than about the people I care about, but like, care about what people think? Right. If I cared about
Starting point is 02:15:54 what people thought, people thought Jay was whack. Period. Go back. Rewind a little bit further. Look at what the fight was. We had to convince niggas he was, you know,
Starting point is 02:16:02 a different dude. Right. Look at it. Right. It wasn't easy. Ask Clark Kent had to convince niggas He was you know A different dude Right Look at it Right It wasn't easy Ask Clark Kent Ask these niggas How hard was it Convincing people
Starting point is 02:16:11 That he was the truth Ask that Ask Kev Louse Cause Kev Louse passed Steve Rifkin passed Russell Everybody passed When y'all was shopping
Starting point is 02:16:20 That's why we had to do it On our own Wow That's why y'all went independent Yeah we had no choice It wasn't like we came through Like let's be independent Everybody gotta get that record deal
Starting point is 02:16:28 That label was like a freestyle label That y'all did the first deal with We just had to get distribution We was like we gonna do anything we can But they not giving it to us We gotta do it ourself But we went everywhere dog That shit was a fight
Starting point is 02:16:38 You understand what I'm saying? Right But in the music business It's a fight Right Like I'm saying That's why I don't You know I mean I'll do it different and plus there was no internet right there was no podcast right you know i mean we was doing hand to hand we had the person we was moving around in
Starting point is 02:16:53 a pathfinder and shit like that pathfinder yeah putting up posters now now um jim jones you got problems what's going on i don't talk about it No You don't want to talk about it Big up Jim Jones Big up Dave Jones Move on And that Difficult What
Starting point is 02:17:10 No cause I don't I don't want to Come on man Yeah let's just move on Let's move on I'm 45 I'm 45 You're 45
Starting point is 02:17:18 Really I am I'm 30 I'm 8 You got two more He 40 said you 40 already Yeah he 40 Try to give me Tell me I'm 40 You said you gotta round it off 38 But I'm gonna. You got two more. He 40 said you 40 already. Yeah, he 40 trying to give me, just tell me I'm 40.
Starting point is 02:17:25 He said you got to round it off. 38. But I'm going to be 39 this year. Yeah, you got to round it off. You're seven years older than me. You're seven years. You ain't going to want to do the music shit. Welcome to Play It, a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities
Starting point is 02:17:45 talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at play.it. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with rapper N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN. So, Dipset, everybody else is good. You and Cam is good. I've seen them promoting the Dusk Gold Block. A lot of Harlem listeners. There's no such thing as civil war. So Dipset Everybody else is good You and Cam is good I seen him Promoting the Dusk of Lock We all good love
Starting point is 02:18:06 All of them Listen There's no such thing As civil war I'm never gonna have a beef With another black man That shit is stupid Thank you
Starting point is 02:18:13 You understand what I'm saying So whatever I have no beef with nobody Keep promoting that Keep saying what you're saying What you mean That's hard That's consistent
Starting point is 02:18:20 That's stupid for us To ever fight each other Over stupid shit So no beef with nobody We all made history How the fuck we gonna be mad about anything Tell that story But you asking me these questions
Starting point is 02:18:30 A roving reporter No I'm a bozo Nah you're more of a roving reporter right now You are You're a probing reporter I still don't know what that means Have another drink. All right, let's do it.
Starting point is 02:18:47 Look, right there. Right there. Right there's his coat. No, no. I can't do that no more. That was yours, man. Come on. What do you mean you can't do that?
Starting point is 02:18:55 Dame Dash. It's my nigga. We did this all around the world. Why would we stop now? I know. It's the music business. So I can't say no more. We were in the music business.
Starting point is 02:19:03 Isn't this what we did? This is what we did. And we never, like, actually, like, cleared it. It was like a draw. What do you mean? Everywhere. What, you think you won the drinking battle? I didn't think about it at all.
Starting point is 02:19:15 I actually forgot. I think I won. Okay, think what you won. Oh, no, I didn't win. Enjoy the thought. I knew it was even. Can we keep it even? No, I think you lost, man.
Starting point is 02:19:24 No, in London knew it was even. Can we keep it even? No, I think you lost, man. No, in London, it was even. Listen, I've been wanting to quit, Dane. Oh, you said you quit? No, I definitely. You said I've been. You heard what he said, right? I said I wanted to, but I never said I quit it. But you want to quit.
Starting point is 02:19:39 Yes, I do. Oh, so, but. No, I'd rather. What do you want to quit? What do you want to quit, though? What do you want to quit? I want to quit this shit. This shit, right?
Starting point is 02:19:47 Yeah, whiskey. We saw the wrong podcast. I'm a vodka guy. Salute. No, no. You didn't look in my eye when you toasted. All right. There you go.
Starting point is 02:19:55 All right, go ahead. Go first. You're a drink champ. Yeah, go first. Because this is your... I hate this shit. He thugged you out with that one right there. My shit is not going to be a smooth one.
Starting point is 02:20:04 Take the shot, man. Take the shot. Do Going to be as smooth as that Take the shot man Take the shot Do you see how he did it Take the shot He was mad white with it I'm going to be honest Whatever man Take the shot
Starting point is 02:20:11 And you know I'm tracing It with a vodka Y'all drinking that Liquor raw man That ain't ice man Y'all fucking love And you know I'm tracing it with a vodka. Y'all drinking that liquor raw, man. That's these ice, man. Y'all fucking love. That's some funny shit right here. Dave Dash is in the building.
Starting point is 02:20:33 Make some noise. You know Elliot Wilson? How can I not know Elliot Wilson? He's a corn boy, you know him? Let's take a shot to that. Oh. He's a corn boy. You want to take a shot to that?
Starting point is 02:20:48 Listen, I'm going to drink a vodka. Drink a vodka to that shot. You going to quit? Well, how did you meet L.A. Wilson? Does he quit or not? Because we're drinking. I'm not quitting. I'm not quitting. So are we taking another shot or not?
Starting point is 02:20:58 You got to take a shot of vodka with me. Well, listen, you don't change liquors. That's how we do it. We've never done that before. This is my show. Slum. You remember? Slum.
Starting point is 02:21:07 Slum. Slum. Can you fuck with me? I've been fucking with you. All right, let's make that the... I don't drink whiskey. But I've been fucking with you. You should now take one shot of Ciroc, and then that's it.
Starting point is 02:21:19 And then the interview is over, because... No, no, no, no, no, no. Not the interview. I mean, the other interview that I got lined up. It's a wrap. It's a wrap. But come on, Dane. How about this? We'll finish it with a shot of... Can you show Elliot Wilson for me?
Starting point is 02:21:33 Do you have a bad story about him? Do you have an agreement? I don't remember bad stories. I put them in my rear view. No, can you? You want me to relive his therapy? Yeah, because we don't fuck with him over here. I thought you squashed it with Peter Oh I did
Starting point is 02:21:48 I did Oh my bad I forgot Yo let me ask you a question Take a shot god damn it No fuck that We had an agreement Try to get me drunk
Starting point is 02:21:55 You got it You acquired You said I got it You got it Well let's Take a shot of vodka If we done Let's take a shot of vodka
Starting point is 02:22:03 Are we done though No we ain't done So then we not Let's do this We'll take a The shot of vodka. If we're done. Let's take a shot of vodka, Dave. Are we done, though? No, we ain't done. So then we not, let's do this. We'll take a, the shot of vodka will be the last thing we do. That'll be the finish. All right, here we go. Let's go, let's go. I'm not done.
Starting point is 02:22:12 You want to do that? You got to pour it. You pour it to other joints. This ain't not done, man. Let's just have it. We'll make that the last thing we do, but we can have a shot of this. Nah, fuck that. Let's do this.
Starting point is 02:22:20 You're going to ask you? Let's do that, Dave. You're going to ask you and then shot your ass? No, you're talking to him, man. Come on, Dave. Let's do that. You're going to ice cube? Let's do that, Dave. You're going to ice cube and then shot your ass? No, you tuck it in, man. Come on, Dave. Let's go. Let's go.
Starting point is 02:22:30 Let's go. I can't take a shot with ice cube. But you're the best CEO in hip hop. We're trying to get you. We're trying to bring you back to hip hop.
Starting point is 02:22:37 You're trying to choke a nigga's pores. Look at him doing that. What? You don't like ice? Not in a shot glass. We take a shot. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:44 You want to sip in a shot glass? Because take a shot. Yeah. You want a sip in a shot glass? Because you older. In a new millennium. Oh, he pulled an older card. In a new millennium, we take shots with ice.
Starting point is 02:22:53 Okay? Boogie doesn't do that. He's the youngest one here. You raised Boogie right. You got to raise niggas wrong. He's very millennial. You realize that
Starting point is 02:23:02 this is what we do. You consider yourself a millennial? No. I don't know what a millennial. You realize that this is what we do. You consider yourself a millennial? No. I don't know what a millennial is, but they fucking want a podcast. We're not that age group. We're there. They are not.
Starting point is 02:23:10 Let's make some noise for the millennials. They are not demographic, though. Okay. And we are at apartment 4B. Yes, sir. Correct? Apartment 4B. Also, and where is this at?
Starting point is 02:23:20 Fairfax? Fairfax. Fairfax. Los Angeles. Also, I'm Queens. You didn't come to The Reasonable Without I didn't get invited
Starting point is 02:23:27 Also I'm gonna do The Poppington University Cause Where I'm shooting All of my Stuff for my network You know It's a Dame Dash Studios
Starting point is 02:23:35 Like a sound stage There's an auditorium there So I'm gonna be teaching Like a class The Poppington use I just do them in my gallery So I'm doing this September You could be like
Starting point is 02:23:44 The Tony Robbins of hip hop If I feel like you could be like the Tony Robbins of hip hop. If I feel like it. I like to relax a lot. A shot of vodka for us? Well, I mean, I don't know if it's needed, but...
Starting point is 02:23:51 I'll do another one. You gotta do a shot of vodka. At the end, we're not done. I fucked with you the whole night. You're the one. I said when we finish, we're not done.
Starting point is 02:23:58 If you say we're done, we're done. Say you're done. No, no, no. He's done. Dame, this is not your show. You gotta relax. Let me control this. I thought we were drinking. I thought we were drinking No, no, no. He's done. Say you're done. It's a dame. It's not your show. You got to relax. Let me control this.
Starting point is 02:24:06 Come on. I thought he was drinking. I thought he was drinking. Come on. Glory. Tito, please, please. You piece of pizza. He's been in control too long.
Starting point is 02:24:14 Come on. Yo, Tito, help me. Come on. He's quitting. He's quitting. No, no. He's quitting. All right, give him Dusko then, and then give me the vodka.
Starting point is 02:24:23 Yeah, I'll do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, you do a shot of Ciroc, I'll do a shot of Dusko. Let's do that. You got it. Come on, you pump that. I'm going to do it anyway. I'm saying I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 02:24:30 I'm going to do it when I'm finished. I'm going to do it anyway. I'm never saying I'm not doing it. It's a matter of when I'm doing it. This nigga's really on his drinking shit, right? Is this Drink Champ? You said I challenged you all around the world. You did.
Starting point is 02:24:42 It was a draw. So we have a finished business, right? So you want to clear it right now? I ain't ready for you. Okay. He heard that. I heard enough. You got it.
Starting point is 02:24:51 I'm not ready for you. I'm not ready for you. Because I know how brutal it is. You said you kept it on me. I kept it on me. The money from drink champs is not ready for me. I'm not ready. You take it there.
Starting point is 02:25:02 I like that you said it. You take it there. And we have indoor pools. Now take it there. Thank you. So we have indoor bowls. Now take a shot of the Ciroc. And then I'm in with you, I'm in with you. Can you pour me a shot too, Dan? Why you gotta put the ice in the shot? Cause you gotta be sophisticated.
Starting point is 02:25:18 All right, you know they have ice cubes. I don't know how you're gonna do a shot with ice cubes. Yes, you got a little fuckin' shot with ice cubes. Big shout out to Puff, man. This is good shit. No, no, you got to give me a little more of that. Oh, no, no, that's good. That's good, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:25:30 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I didn't look at it. Sorry, Dane. Please, forgive me. Forgive me, Dane. All right, and you going to take a shot? You want to take a shot, Seraph?
Starting point is 02:25:42 Go ahead, pour it. Oh, you want me to pour you? He take a shot? Yeah. You want to take a shot, Sarai? Go ahead, pour it. Oh, you want me to pour you? He's a gangster. When a nigga tell you he want him to pour you a shot, that's some gangsters. I just poured yours, right? But we're even. Look, look, look, look. You're going to take mine.
Starting point is 02:26:00 Oh, look at that. I'm in. Let's do it. Eye to eye, I told you. What do in. Let's do it. I told you. What do you mean? Why do you think it's mine? I don't know why I keep doing this show. It's not proper.
Starting point is 02:26:18 I went to Runyon Canyon today, and I was like, why did I do this? Like, what did I accomplish? Can I take the ice cubes out? Nah, that's not gangsta. I never took a shot with ice cubes. Nah, but you in my world now. That's not gangsta. You gotta do the whole thing.
Starting point is 02:26:31 It's a different technique. Do the whole thing. Come on, inventing that technique from Harlem. And the slurping's the noise, I heard it. Come on, man. Let's make some noise for Dame Dash right there. So Dame Dash, man. Let's make some noise. It's Dame Dash right there. It's Dame Dash, man. You finished?
Starting point is 02:26:49 Nah. Nah, we ain't finished, nigga. Good. You did everything in the world. You want to do another shot? A dusk? I'm going to be honest. City Boy D is going to take a shot.
Starting point is 02:26:59 Come on, man. No, no, no, no, no. You want to take a shot. Yeah. Stop, Dame. All right, all right. Dame, stop. All right, all right. You won. You asked a lot a shot. Stop, damn. All right, all right. Damn, stop. All right, all right.
Starting point is 02:27:05 You won. You asked a lot of questions. You won. You asked a lot of questions. I know. You're going to keep it going. You did ask a lot of questions. And you want me to keep it going, all right?
Starting point is 02:27:13 No, it's cool. It's cool? I'm going to ask like two more. Then you have to take a shot. I'm going to take a shot, Ciroc. I'll take a shot. I'm not a whiskey guy, but. I like that shit.
Starting point is 02:27:22 I'll take a shot. All right, that's cool. All right, then my partner is going to take a shot. That's a fact. I'll take a shot. All right, my partner doesn't get a shot. That's a fact. I'll take a shot. Let me ask you a question. How dope is it that, like, we all have,
Starting point is 02:27:29 the ones that do have our own liquor? Right. You know what I mean? It's like not to be taken for granted. You know what I mean? Like, it's a beautiful thing.
Starting point is 02:27:37 I support rapper liquor. It's not... When did I ever lay a verse in your music? No, but you're a rapper. I'm supporting you. But why you said rapper? Because I'm black. I don't look like a rapper. I'm supporting you. But why you said rapper? Because I'm a rapper.
Starting point is 02:27:45 I don't know the culture of this rapper, really. But I'm not. All right. You know, the thing is, I'm the only CEO that never laid a verse. Can I sign you as well?
Starting point is 02:27:53 I want to write your raps. You've been drinking that Ciroc now. No, no, no. You see the question you asked? You had a lot of vocals on the morphing. You said Ciroc,
Starting point is 02:28:03 you just wanted to sign me? I'm on. I'm hard, Slav. Huh? I'll write your shit. What are you talking about right now? I don't know. Let him live, man. Come on.
Starting point is 02:28:12 Let him live. Let him live, man. Let him live, man. Let him live. All right. One more shot. One more shot. Let's do it.
Starting point is 02:28:17 Let's do it. One more shot. All right. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. No, we all got to do the same thing, man. Dusko is very harsh. It kills me. It didn't kill you at all. In my mind, it killed me we all got to do the same thing, man. Dusko is very harsh. It kills me.
Starting point is 02:28:25 It didn't kill you at all. In my mind, it killed me. I got to smoke a cigarette. You coherent, man. You good. Let's do it. Yeah, it's good. I'm smoking a bogey right here.
Starting point is 02:28:35 You said that shit with emphasis. So you said you wasn't invited to reasonable doubt? No. Yeah? You get in the box, in the blue bag, give me a shot cup. You know where it was. Why you asking me? No, I'm just asking.
Starting point is 02:28:49 Because it's the people who want to. I don't care what the people want to know. But I did call you and tell you to come through. You remember that? In the box. So why you didn't come through, Dane? I was watching my kids. Let's make some noise for Dane being the best hip-hop father in the world.
Starting point is 02:29:11 Look, I'll give you that. You're the best hip-hop dad. When the show comes and evolves in events, and they say hip-hop dads, I want you to executive produce and be involved with it. Because I'm a better dad because of you involved with it Because That's what I'm doing I'm a better dad because of you Thank you
Starting point is 02:29:27 That's the best thing I am That means more than anything I am a better dad What's more important than being a dad? Nothing at all, man I can't think of nothing It's gold chains
Starting point is 02:29:36 A car You smoke cigarettes? No Smoke a cigarette with me No, no, no That'd be gangster No, it wouldn't If you smoke a Camel Crush with me
Starting point is 02:29:43 It's not gonna happen It'd be gangster It'd make you cooler, dang No, no, I don't. If you smoke a Campbell Crusher, me. It's not going to happen. It'd be gangster. It'd make you cooler, dang. No, no, I don't need to be any cooler. You ain't get the peer pressure? You already got peer pressure. Junior high peer pressure.
Starting point is 02:29:51 High school? You don't even want me to get one Iota cooler. That was very big words. Iola cooler? I say Iola cooler. What did you say? An Iota.
Starting point is 02:30:02 An Iota. You don't even want to get a Duffy. Like, whatever the littlest Not your coolness You don't want me to do that Nobody does But Dame Dad Studios I'm already too cool
Starting point is 02:30:10 You got the streaming system Yeah streaming service Streaming service DameDadStudios.com You got the Dusk Gold Poppin' Tim Riesling
Starting point is 02:30:18 Wine Blue Bottle Yup Got Poppin' Tim You got the The Whiskey The Whiskey Yeah
Starting point is 02:30:24 What else you got going You got the whiskey The whiskey, yeah What else you got going on? You got the moguls on BET Yeah I see you, I support you I watch the show because you're on there Right And you're my brother And I gotta respect that
Starting point is 02:30:35 I appreciate that I would definitely watch you on any show And you got your son growing up I already told you I was like, yo, let's just make some TV shows You remember I said that? Yes, you did tell me that. But you, you know.
Starting point is 02:30:48 Yeah, I fucked with the white people. I fucked up. What do you mean fucked up? What are you talking about? You're doing well. You're doing what you love. I'm sorry. What do you mean?
Starting point is 02:30:56 You got your crew with you. Y'all still fresh? I'm happy. I like that shit. Be fresh, right? Yeah, y'all still up. Us Queens niggas look good? Y'all Queen niggas do.
Starting point is 02:31:04 Don't forget about Miami, motherfucker. Don't forget about Miami, motherfucker. Don't forget about Miami, man. Team Miami. I'm sorry. Come on, man. You know. Five, Miami. Y'all definitely look like y'all know some Harlem niggas.
Starting point is 02:31:16 We got like two Harlem niggas with us. Yeah, you know, it feels like you've been around the world with a Harlem nigga. I'll tell Mike. Bronx niggas. And Mr. Lee. It feels like you've been around the world with a Harlem nigga. No, Mike And Mr. Lee It feels like You've been around the world With a Harlem nigga No we got two Harlem niggas
Starting point is 02:31:27 You gotta keep a Harlem nigga With you Can we go to school together? Shout out to Beantown boys Huh? Oh shit Come over here Mr. Lee Come over here Mr. Lee
Starting point is 02:31:36 We can't hear you He's on every Pussy T album Ever invented Come over here Mr. Lee Who's Pussy T? Pussy T Oh I didn't understand
Starting point is 02:31:44 He's doing a shot right What you're saying? I got mine Let's go I'm sorry Let me get the pass Okay Come over here Who's Pussy T? Pussy T Oh I didn't understand He's doing a shot right Where's your shirt I got mine Let's go I'm sorry Let me get the pads Okay Let's go
Starting point is 02:31:50 I respect that man He was there when I saw Biggs Yeah It's a part before me Right here right Ask him Ask him then Let him sit down for a second
Starting point is 02:31:57 Don't worry I got spread I'd rather somebody else Speak on it No no no Sit down Don't get you Nah nah nah
Starting point is 02:32:04 Cause it's better If I say it I'm gonna look like a hero All the time You wanna hear from somebody else Let somebody else speak on it. No, no, no. Sit down. Don't hit you. No, no, no. Because it's better when I... If I say it, I'm going to look like a hero all the time. You're going to hear it from somebody else. Let somebody else tell it. But Big's your brother. Always. Always. Always my brother.
Starting point is 02:32:13 You're my brother, too. Right? You saw that? You saw that? You saw that? I'm not your brother like Big's. Family. Don't put me on the same level as Big's.
Starting point is 02:32:25 Say that again? You can't put me on the same level as Biggs. Say that again? You can't put me on the same level as Biggs. Okay. As your brother. Thanks for telling me what I can do. Biggs is your real brother. You're a good boss. No, I'm asking.
Starting point is 02:32:33 You told me. You're all killing me. I did tell you? You're all killing me, man. I did? Yeah, you told me. Come on, let's do this. Because it ain't no problems.
Starting point is 02:32:43 What do you mean problems What are you talking about Do you know what problems are Death and jail Not being healthy Anything else is not really relevant Biggs is happy and I'm happy That's all that should count
Starting point is 02:32:55 He's smiling he's doing his thing I'm smiling I'm doing my thing We're men We all have a desire to do our own thing That's why we have testicles We want to do things on our own So. That's why we have testicles. Paws. Right. We want to do things on our own.
Starting point is 02:33:08 So this is it. This is the last question we asked you. Why is it the last question we're drinking? Kick your shot, bro. I got mine, bro. I'm just waiting. Take your shot. Where's your beer? Miss Vodka, I'll take it.
Starting point is 02:33:16 Then do it. See? Damn, I was the guest. Nah, you got to drink Dusko, man. Come on, man. I've been drinking Dusko for 1900 weeks. Can I get a pass? If you must.
Starting point is 02:33:32 Cause, cause Barkley. What was that? That was like an ice cube worker. And it's an ice cube in there. What's going on
Starting point is 02:33:42 right now? What's going on right now? Come on. Take the Dus that. What's going on right now? Come on. Take the Dusko, man. Take the Dusko. That's a real shot. Take a half a Dusko, if anything.
Starting point is 02:33:53 You want me to mix it? No, don't mix it with that. Pour that out. You're already mixing. You tripped it. But it's not enough. How it's not enough? Look, man, you got ice cubes in your shit.
Starting point is 02:34:04 I'm trying to thug you out right now cubes in your shit. I ain't on front. I ain't trying to thug you out right now. You can't. I'm not trying to do anything. I'll try to drink the drink, champs. This is the drink, champs? Well, not right now. All right.
Starting point is 02:34:18 Friendship, brotherhood. Let me get one minute. You got a call. The alarm went off just now. What? Your blood level up or something? Your blood level calling you? Nah, they ask people if we drink more.
Starting point is 02:34:38 He told his man to call, didn't call. We have to get back. I'm going to send you an address. I told him to give him the signal. Tell him you in trouble. Tell him you in trouble. I love you. Tell'm gonna send you an address. I told him to give him the signal. I'm in the middle of a block. Tell him you in trouble. Tell him you in trouble. I love you. Tell him you in trouble. It's my wife.
Starting point is 02:34:49 I love my wife. And I love her too. That's your wife? I love her. You said you love my wife. You guys are awkward, man. I like my wife. I just said what you said.
Starting point is 02:34:58 I love your wife. I said exactly what you said to me. Oh, my bad. You did, absolutely. So I'm supposed to take a shot, right? Yo, speak. did, absolutely. So I'm supposed to take a shot, right? Yo, speak. What did you say? I'm supposed to take a shot.
Starting point is 02:35:12 Yo, I'm going to hold it down with my dog, North. Fuck this shit, man. I got you, man. I got you, man. I'm going to take a shot. I'm trying to, man. But you went in deep early, man. That's going gonna do that man
Starting point is 02:35:26 You know who Elliot Wilson is? You know who Rat Radar is? Nobody knows who the niggas is You ain't ask me about No girls or nothing man I'm talking about some chicks or something Some money or something I like when you was talking about us doing some business
Starting point is 02:35:41 That shit was buttish And this is the way CEOs do business. They drink a bottle of something. Especially in Japan. Right? So I'm supposed to drink this, right? No, pause. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:54 Don't do the toast. To good business. To 20 years later, we're doing big business. That's a big-ass ice cube. I ain't going to say nothing. Because if any of you guys drink it slow, this shit is funny. Go ahead, get your hook. Here, here, now, cheers with me.
Starting point is 02:36:08 I ain't do mine yet. Come on, let's go. Get your hook. Go. No, cheers, my boy. Go, dude. Cheers. That's your man right there.
Starting point is 02:36:17 It's my turn. With the ice cream. I told you he ain't finished, dog Come on Come on, finish that How you doing? That's water I'm just fucking with you
Starting point is 02:36:31 That's water Let me ask you a question Do you still wear everything new every day? Like how you always sit back and do When I go outside You go out? If I go outside You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:36:42 Like cause You never wear it again Nah, cause sometimes I be liking my outfits and shit because I be making them. I put it like this. If it's someone else makes it, then I'm throwing that shit out. But if I make it, I can't throw my shit out. You know, my shit is fly.
Starting point is 02:36:55 You know, I like my shit. I'm wearing this shit. I can't stop wearing shit. It's butter. It's only acceptable then. You know what I'm saying? I gave Nori some. I pulled some socks.
Starting point is 02:37:04 Made in America. Why you? Somebody fart? You know I'm saying I gave Nori some suppose some socks made in America with white so my foot So bossed up You always in control Of everything I wanna know Have you ever been Peer pressured in your life To do something
Starting point is 02:37:28 You ain't wanna do Be honest Growing up To be honest Be honest Be honest Yeah What
Starting point is 02:37:34 What you did I ain't gonna say no names But like one time An older dude I was hanging out with You know He was cooking up a quarter But he get
Starting point is 02:37:43 You know they got high back then So he was like You know take some some shit. So I got some cocaine He was the older nigga with a quarter I was like young but I had a car and I switched my car How was that? Listen, listen listen you know who's the graphic kid charlie charlie uh charlie clips yeah his father leon you know we used to be on the same block and he had a golf and we had switched up cars but i had a maxima and i didn't want i didn't want to take the golf back because i lived on the east side so i was like so i that's why i was up there waiting and then he was cooking and you know what i mean but then some other crazy shit happened.
Starting point is 02:38:26 But it was crazy. What was that? What happened? It would be crazy to talk about. I'll tell you offline. But it was like I was put in a position where I was put in a position to do something to somebody. But they didn't show up.
Starting point is 02:38:40 And it was good. It was like God always protected me like that. Because I couldn't say no. I was the older nigga. I'm high. And then when I, you know, and it was good. It was like God always protected me like that because I couldn't say no because I was the older nigga, I'm high. And then like, you know, when I was on my way out, the kid we was looking for actually showed up because I was a little nigga. He was like, yo, come here, shorty.
Starting point is 02:38:55 Go upstairs. And I was like, now I'm getting in the cab. I was in my shit without a chain. He just, he had just robbed some, there was a lot of shit like that. It was like, I've always been in situations where I didn't like, I never had to do anything that I couldn't step away from. Like, it was always I was able to, right when it got too crazy,
Starting point is 02:39:13 like, I would, like, put myself in boarding school. You know what I mean? Because it gets a little ridiculous. You know what I mean? Like, it just don't make sense for us to be hurting each other. You know, why niggas hate each other? That whiskey hit me in ways I don't even understand. You want to do another shot? You just hurt Nori. You hurt Nori, man. Why are you hurting each other. You know, why niggas hate each other? That whiskey hit me in ways I don't even understand. You want to do another shot?
Starting point is 02:39:26 You just hurt Nori. You hurt Nori, man. Why you trying to hurt each other? Let's do another shot. Did he hide it? Oh, yeah, it's over there. Let's do another shot. This nigga trying to hide my whiskey.
Starting point is 02:39:36 Let's do another shot. Fuck it. How you keep getting so many ice cubes? What the shit's coming for? Why the shit's not moving? It's magic. What the shit's magic, What is that, dawg?
Starting point is 02:39:46 What is this magic, man? Drink Champs. I don't want to do no more shots. Thank you. Yo, man, I can't even let you. No, man, no more shots. I'm cutting everybody off here. I don't care.
Starting point is 02:39:54 Dang, we love you. Dang, man, thank you for doing that, Drink Champs. You're never invited back again. Thank you. No, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:40:02 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Damon, take your phone and drink your hands. You're never invited back again. Never invited back again. In the fountain. No, no, I'm still standing here. I'm good, man, I'm good.
Starting point is 02:40:18 I don't want to know. Hey, he's just pretending. That's how we get down right here. He's pretending. He's acting bold right now. Oh, I bet you don't like it. He's good, he's pretending. I'm just kidding. He's acting bold right now. He's good. He's good. It's all for entertainment.
Starting point is 02:40:28 It's all for entertainment. All for entertainment. I'm done. Yo, Dave, he can't even play ball, man. He won. He won. Don't give us that, man. You acting like Nori right now.
Starting point is 02:40:39 What are you talking about? OK. You want to take a shot? I'll take a shot. Let's go. Take a shot. Take a chance now. I'm good. I'll take a shot. Yeah, you good. Okay What are you going to say? Break the flag? I quit a long time ago. I don't know why I'm in this.
Starting point is 02:41:10 I'm Cuban. I'll drink, motherfucker. I'm Cuban. I've been quit. So you're done? No, I'm going to drink that shit. Damn, relax. I got you. I got your my show
Starting point is 02:41:37 Never seen things that I want enough liquor you want more Oh, he drinking the dust, girl. He's going in. I don't know, what the fuck? Yo, you found this out, man. You're a stranger. No, hey, I'm not gonna let you look at me like you not found it out, man. Oh, man, this nigga.
Starting point is 02:41:55 Take your shirt off. You talking about me. Go on, go on. Cheers, cheers, cheers. Cheers, cheers. What'd he say, What'd he say? Shut up. Shut up. Yo, what's going on, yo?
Starting point is 02:42:12 Come on. What was the other thing he said? He said, you're black balls. You know, it's like getting trippled on the back. Yeah. Like a black ball. Tripple. Where's Gus? It's like it's tripping on the back. Yeah. It's tripping.
Starting point is 02:42:27 Where's God? Yeah, y'all ready? Yo, let's go. Let's go, man. Let's go. Cheers. Cheers. Come on.
Starting point is 02:42:36 I don't know why I'm drinking this fucking foul shit with you. Yeah. Come on, cheers. You got that? Come on. I got a cheer. Yeah, it's a cheerio on me, too. Come on.
Starting point is 02:42:43 Come on. Drink that, dog. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Nah, this ain't gonna get stuff, so I don't give you no headache. It's good. I don't know why I did that. I love Dave Dash. Because we having fun, man.
Starting point is 02:43:31 We having fun. Dave Dash. In the building. Your shit is real. And dusk goes smooth, man. Dusk goes smooth. Can you tell the people? Before you leave.
Starting point is 02:43:43 We leaving? Let me stay here. I have a fix in my brain. Can you tell this is real? Can you tell? Can you tell this is real? My brain is in a different Different time zone and shit There's a different section I'm glad nothing changed B
Starting point is 02:44:17 Right I kept it real right From the beginning Thank you my my brother. I love you, Dan. I don't know why we keep giving each other five. You set me up. Nah.
Starting point is 02:44:37 You set me up. What are you talking about right now? Yo, he came ready for drink chance, man. You came ready for drink chance. He's ready for drink chance. Dame Dash and the motherfucking Bill. You got some water for him? I don't need a fucking water.
Starting point is 02:44:50 Just one little shot? Let's go. Nah, yeah, yeah, I'm going to cut you off now. Let's go. Oh, Lord have mercy. Nah, not whiskey, though. Oh, no, it's got to be whiskey. It's got to be his shit.
Starting point is 02:45:01 No, I'm going to keep it real. What you want, man? I can't do that whiskey no more. But you want a wine cooler? You keep going back and forth. What? Oh, shit. Relax.
Starting point is 02:45:15 I don't know what I want. I'm going back to it. All right, man. Piazza a O. Piazza a O. Piazza a O. Make some noise. Let's take a picture.
Starting point is 02:45:29 Let's take a shot. Let's take a shot. No more whiskey. No more. What up, Drink Champs Army? We want to thank y'all for supporting us. We really appreciate it. We want to make sure y'all find us wherever you need to find us.
Starting point is 02:45:43 So log on to drinkchamps.com where you can find the new audio podcast, the videos, and all the merch like the Drink Champs t-shirts and the party pack. That's drinkchamps.com. Also, download the free app on the App Store. And make sure you follow us at Drink Champs on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Also, follow Nori at TheRealNoriega on Instagram, at Noriega on Twitter, and NewYearNori on Snapchat. You can follow me at DJEFN on Twitter, at Who's Crazy on Instagram, and Who's Crazy on Snapchat. Make sure you follow the team. At Rich Blanco, he does the video.
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Starting point is 02:46:32 and make sure you download our music, stream it, get it wherever you can. You got the new Petty song, For the Win, and Moguls, and you can't forget Drunk Uncle. All that's on iTunes now, and my album, Another Time, is on iTunes and in stores
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