Drink Champs - Episode 342 w/ Bill Bellamy

Episode Date: November 25, 2022

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the one and only Bill Bellamy!  Bill joins us for a great convo as he shares his journey, stories from the classic m...ovie “How To Be A Player”, his time on MTV and much much more! Lots of great topics that you don’t want to miss!! Make some noise for Bill Bellamy!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆   *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps   *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com  Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps  DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions  N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreaga   *Check out our Culture Cards NFT project by joining The Culture Cards Discord: 👇* https://discord.gg/theculturecardsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:34 I've been trying to get him for years Bumping into each other Seeing each other I've been telling him how much We wanted him on But I mean it feels It feels so right right now I've been going through his catalog, going through everything,
Starting point is 00:03:48 and I discovered something, EFN. You know how I like to compare artists to superheroes and things like that. I have a perfect superhero who I'm going to say, who I think he is in the comedian world. Because the way he delivers a story. I call him the Slick Rick of comedy. Nice. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I like that. That's a good one. I'm fucking with that. I didn't see that coming. Rick of comedy. I'm fucking with that. How he can tell a story on his Instagram stories. He can tell a story.
Starting point is 00:04:19 However he tells a story, I cannot. I've missed meetings because I'm in the middle Of him telling this story And I'm like I can't I can't walk away It's like It's like a good car crash
Starting point is 00:04:31 Like a car crash You gotta see it You gotta see what happened This man Countless movies Count Uh Actor
Starting point is 00:04:39 Comedian Writer Producer The man does it all Renaissance man Thank you And he's still out here relevant, still out here doing,
Starting point is 00:04:46 had a special in 2022. God damn it. What? He's still outside. Come on, I'm outside, outside. And he taught you motherfuckers how to be a player. And you motherfuckers
Starting point is 00:04:54 didn't watch the movie because you're out here not being players. In case you don't know what the fuck we talking about, we're one of the one, only Bill, my mother, got it.
Starting point is 00:05:07 I'm so amped. I'm so amped to be here. The way you put a story together and the way, when you put the people that's in the story, how you put, it's like it's like scripted comedy, but it's just you talking.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Yeah, it's crazy how I've been able to get really good at that. But my life is so colorful. Like, you know, people sleep on all the connects. You know, I've been in the game a long time. I know everybody came up with mostly everybody that's made now. People that stars now, people don't remember Jay-Z before he was Jay-Z. Or y'all saying, you know, Puff Daddy is love.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I was there when he was just Sean. You know, when he was doing his thing, coming up with the bad boy entertainment and all that. Like, they don't realize they wasn't in New York at that time. So, like, when I flashback in my life and I be thinking, like, yo, what about that? And during COVID, it was nothing to do. Was Puff Daddy still your girl or what? Yeah, he's... be thinking like yo what about that and i during covid it was nothing to do let's pop that he stole your girl i want yes no it's literally it's a true story right you want me to tell it so it's it's it's literally the 1995 Video Music Awards.
Starting point is 00:06:26 We in New York. The after party's in Bryant Park. You know what I'm saying? By the way, this is the award show where Pac stepped to Nas. Yeah, it's crazy. This is when Bad Boy is beeping. Oh, it's bad. By the way, I'm sorry to steal your story, but this girl must have done something really fucked up.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Go ahead. Let me look at it. So cool, right? So it's done something really fucked up. Go ahead. Let's do it again. It's so cool, right? So it's a lot of tension in New York City. This is like when Snoop had the video when they stepped on New York. Everybody was going crazy. So now backstage, this is when they had
Starting point is 00:06:57 crews that were separated. Like, ha, ha, they can't mix. Everybody's over here. The tension is real grimy. It was crazy. You know, my little happy ass in the middle doing a little video presentation and shit. So I had met this real fly chick in New York at the time. Model. I had a part of model joint, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:13 You know cats always want a model joint. Especially when you start getting your paper right. You got to have that arm strong. You feel me? So I had met this real bad little shorty at a party. And I was like, yo, you know, I'm doing the little MTV Awards in a couple weeks. You want to flow with me? So I had met this real bad little shorty at a party, and I was like, yo, you know, I'm doing the little MTV Awards in a couple weeks. You want to flow with me? She was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:31 MTV? Check. So she comes. We limoed out, pick her up in New York. We go, we get to the party. And I'm thinking in the back of my mind, this is going to be a great night, B. Because it's sexy. I'm the man. I got a baddie
Starting point is 00:07:46 with me. Life is good. So I come into Bryant Park, literally, right? Like, walk in, and I'm coming, going towards the bar. I'm about to get a drink and shit. And around the corner come Puff with, like, ten niggas. And they come around
Starting point is 00:08:01 the corner, and then Puff turn, and he see me. And I'm like, yo, like I'm thinking like he get ready to say what he was like, yo, I've been waiting to see you. And I was like, me? Nah, be not you. Yo. And I said, oh, you? And she was like, why me?
Starting point is 00:08:21 He was like, you know what you did. You know what's up? And I'm like, please tell me what's up because you're messing up my date. I'm thinking I'm going to have a great night with this chick. It's looking good. Now it's a complete 180, right? It is from the beginning of the date. Bro, everything was going good until Puff came. So Puff said, yo, you know what happened with my man?
Starting point is 00:08:44 You got my man stuck up. I said, yo, you know what happened with my man? You got my man stuck up. I said, you a stick-up chick? A model. Model is good, girls. I'm going to go. Yo, but, you know, this is before Cardi B, you know, back then. No, this is like early 95 when Tix was getting, sticking up cats. Like, you know, they fine.
Starting point is 00:09:01 And so they get you over there and get you drunk. And then they act like they don't know you getting robbed by their people. It's weird. So anyway, to speed the story up, Puff is like, yo, you know what happened? I want my man to get his money back and get his chain back. And she was like, I ain't doing anything. I ain't doing anything. I don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:09:17 He was like, all my life, you're going to get my man's shit back tonight. And I was like, please get his man's shit back. Because I want my night to go good. Puff was like, B, this ain't what you want. I promise you. I promise you. This chick right here is a problem. And I was just like, God. Can the problem be tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:09:36 Because I'm thinking we're going to have a good time. So I just said, you know what, man? This shit is way over my pay grade. Like, I'm not trying. I just met you at a party two weeks ago. Now you got me in some shit with my peoples that I'm already cool with over some other shit I ain't even do. I just walked into
Starting point is 00:09:51 Bryant Park. I just left. I haven't seen it yet. Where's this girl from? Do you remember? I can't tell you. You're going to figure it out. Everybody want to know who she is. She watching this. She going to be like, oh, that was me. What are you drinking on? Let's get it.
Starting point is 00:10:06 What are you drinking on? Because we're going to. I'm having vodka. You're going to have some vodka? But I got vodka. I got vodka. You got vodka? Should I do vodka or something?
Starting point is 00:10:14 Yeah, what you doing? I do some vodka. You're going to do both. Do both. Nah, because if I'm going to do. No, no, no, no. I'm going to do champagne. I'm going to do champagne.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Oh, you're doing champagne with a damn thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, please. Thank you. So, okay. Every time, as soon as we locked you in, I said, yo,
Starting point is 00:10:33 we got people bellowing me. Immediately, people say, how to be a player. Yeah. Is that something that, because, you know, it's like Theo Huxford, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:10:44 You literally don't want to see Theo Huxbill as nobody else, right? Because that's not a disrespect to him. But he locked in that character so well. He locked in that character so well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it reminded me from young people to medium people, as soon as I said it, they said that. Is that something that bothers you?
Starting point is 00:11:04 Because you got tons of so many other movies. No, no, no. It's just one of those, I think how to be a player is just one of those roles that every young male could relate to or wanted to be like that. To have that moment where you got all the chicks and you got the fly crib and the right car and your life is good. So that feeling is what I think people associate me with because the way I was able to deliver the role was like I made it fun to be a player. I wasn't an asshole about it. You know what I'm saying? I was showing cats how many chicks I had in a day.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I'm bringing my boys with me. I got the nice whip, you know, the little drop top joint. And I'm getting paper a little bit. You know what I mean? So I think just the whole sort of world of a player. And I think at that time, we hadn't had that many guys that were doing that kind of a role and made it relatable. Like you could see yourself in me. You know what I mean? So I think every day somebody bring up how to be a player.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yo, you taught me how to get girls. Yo, B-Man, I mean, I was living through you when I was 14. Now I'm 34. Like it's a trip how movies lock you in. Right. So now we also want to get into this famous story. Right. Because I believe everyone speculated about this story.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Everyone thought it happened. But the first time the confirmation that we ever got from a person that wasn't on the left side or the right side was with Jamie Foxx, LL Cool J. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, shit. Only reason I told that story, Nori, honestly, because I seen Jamie tell one side. Okay. Then I seen L tell his side,
Starting point is 00:12:33 and they left me out the middle. And they left a lot out. Right. And I'm like, okay, since they, I sat on the story for 20-some years, because it was hilarious at the time that this really, truly happened. We had no social media.
Starting point is 00:12:46 For people that are watching and listening, we are on the set of Any Given Sunday, 1998. Hold on, let me ask you. Were they method acting or this was like,
Starting point is 00:12:54 did you know? Like, legit. Because later on in life, you hear about these people that method act, right? Right, right, right. And for those that's not listening,
Starting point is 00:13:01 method acting is a person that locks in on this character and they never break the rule. They stick. Were they both kind of like really gassed up thinking they was football players? Well, see, everybody was gassed up. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:13:14 You know, I was gassed up too until I got hit. And then I was like, nah, I don't need my stunt double to do that. That one hurt. But the reality of the movie was the context was conflict of egos with these players, right? I was the all-star, you know, sort of Terrell Owens character, Deion Sanders. You know, I'm the wide out, wide receiver. Right? Boom. You got LL who's playing like the tried and true veteran running back, fullback guy.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Warren Slatt, Marlon, Fasson Lynch type of shit, yeah. There you go. Then you get this new cat coming in, you know, your Terry Bridgewater or your, you got your, maybe, I'm going to give you a better example. Maybe like. Lamar Jackson. Yeah, you know.
Starting point is 00:14:00 I had dinner with Mike Vick last night. Let's throw Mike Vick in there. Let's just throw Mike Vick. Let's throw Mike Vick in there, you know what I'm saying? Light floor shot. So Mike Vick come in. He that dude. He changing the game.
Starting point is 00:14:11 He's giving us another edge. And he not really tying in to the vets. He doing his own thing. So it's conflict. So that was the context. But during the movie, we are joking around. This is how the shit really started getting kind of tight. Because you can't be a rapper hanging around comedians trying to snap.
Starting point is 00:14:31 You're not going to keep snapping. You're not going to lose a couple rounds. So, you know, and Todd is my man. You know, Todd, you know, he play around too. We call him LL Cool J over here. Yeah, we scared the crap out of him. LL Cool J. The legend.
Starting point is 00:14:43 The legend, LL Cool J. My man, where we just born, lick your lips twice. He literally, you know, got a great sense of humor. He plays around and stuff. But then they jabbing, they jabbing, they jabbing. And I'm like, yo, man. I'm like, Jamie, why you keep fucking with him like that? Like, yo, you got him twice yesterday, but like, he's up.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I'm telling you, that's my dude. He don't play like that. Stop fucking with him like that. Like, yo, you just, you got him twice yesterday, but like, he's up. I'm telling you, that's my dude. He don't play like that. Stop fucking with him. I'm just saying, do what you want to do, but I'm telling you, he ain't that one.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Cool. So they keep, boom, boom, boom, ha, ha, ha. So now we get into this race. This is in the movie where we're talking trash again about who's an athlete,
Starting point is 00:15:24 who's a real athlete in here. I play basketball. I never played football. So I was like, yo, I've been an athlete my whole life. Played baseball, played football. Never played baseball and basketball. Never played motherfucking football. I was too skinny.
Starting point is 00:15:36 So this is the line of crazy line, right? So Jamie was like, yo, so L, you ever play football? He was like, nah. I was on tour at 16, 17. You was coming to see me. That was a good one. Oh, so they had attention from the beginning. It was popular. It wasn't because their characters
Starting point is 00:15:58 had attention? No, it was just fun. It was fun in games. It was fun at first. Yeah, Cass is like just poking the bear a little bit. It wasn't serious, right? So we all laugh, and you got all the real football players, and we all huddled around talking shit. And so Jamie was like, yo, was you a real athlete? He was like, what you mean?
Starting point is 00:16:16 He was like, yo, I played football. Like, I really played football in Texas. This is Jamie saying that. And he really did. Cool, cool, right? So he was like, no, I didn't play football. You know what I'm saying? I came in the game 14, 15.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I was on tour. What was you doing in eighth grade? Oh, pop, pop. Now they jabbing. Everybody, and you know we putting gas on. Oh, Chase, I'm out. So that was the beginning of the kind of like. The friction.
Starting point is 00:16:44 The friction, cool. So we thinking it the kind of like The friction The friction Cool So We thinking it's Kind of chilled or not But it wasn't So now we doing a scene And technically in the scene
Starting point is 00:16:54 When you watch the movie We really supposed to be Bickering and shit Coming off the field There's a bad play And we The funniest shit was He say a line
Starting point is 00:17:03 I say a line No he say a line And then he say a line And then I line no he say a line and then he say a line and then i waiting on my line right bro that never happened he never got that line i never got to talk because they just start fighting right like it was like say a lot and they're filming this what by the way the scene is amazing so the craziest shit is he does it in a way that you can't really tell if it's a, he hits it side of his helmet though. So he's talking to the line.
Starting point is 00:17:32 He's saying his line. He's like, boom. And you know, that's it. We call that an ear hole. Like that, that's crazy. Cause you, it's like, cool. So Jamie's like, damn man, you ain't had to do that. Damn bro.
Starting point is 00:17:44 What's up? Like, what's, what's your ear hole me for? He was like, yo, yo, you ain't had to do that. Damn, bro, what's up? Like, what's your ear on me for? He's like, yo, what you doing, B? I'm in my scene. I ain't tripping. You know what I mean? I'm acting. What you talking about, B?
Starting point is 00:17:52 Go ahead. Let's shoot this scene again. And I'm like, yo, man, you might want to buckle up. Because I feel like it's a little more on it than that. Second scene. Bing! I was like, first of all all I'm never getting to my line because
Starting point is 00:18:06 they never going to get to my line because every time I'm about to talk they pretty much want you out they're going to be out so
Starting point is 00:18:15 oh shit so he takes his helmet off Jamie's like oh my god bro yo we got a fighting scene coming up
Starting point is 00:18:22 if that's what you want to do we can do that but this shit here ain't got nothing to do with this scene. So I'm talking to Al. I'm like, yo, man, what we doing, y'all? Is something going on? We shooting a $80 million movie right now. I'll tell if it's done.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Let's buckle up. Let's do this shit later. Let's shoot the scene, bro. Al Pacino. So you're telling me they fought in front of Al Pacino? Bro, this is our close-up. This is us coming off the field. There's a million cameras. Let's make some noise for Jamie Foxx and LL
Starting point is 00:18:50 being the first Chris Rock and Will Smith. Yeah. Let's make some noise for that. Let's make some noise for that. Yes, I'm sorry. That's what it was, right? I forgot about that, yeah. That's some rich, embarrassing shit.
Starting point is 00:19:04 So you're with me, right? So here's some rich, embarrassing shit. So, it's a rich, embarrassing shit. You with me, right? So, here's the funny part about it. So, I push Jamie out the way. Jamie's hot. LL is like, yo, man, I'm cool, man. Why we tripping? Y'all tripping, B. I'm an actor.
Starting point is 00:19:19 I'm doing my scene. I don't know why y'all tripping. I'm like, yo, yo, yo, L, chill, chill. So, I'm talking to Jamie. I'm like, Jamie, man, yo, chill, chill. So I talked to him. So I'm talking to Jamie. I'm like, Jamie, man, what are you going to do? Because we got to shoot the scene. He was like, yo, be on my eye, man. Whatever, whatever, whatever.
Starting point is 00:19:31 I'm good. I ain't tripping. I ain't tripping. Todd does not have a helmet on. Jamie does. So we go to the third time. We go to do the take. Jamie just turns off.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Boom. Punch him in the face. Bust his lip, whatever. I said, oh, shit, because now I know I'm never gonna get my line So I'm like okay This shit right here done got out of hand So now I never I see you ever seen like a Remember the Hulk
Starting point is 00:19:57 Remember when The original one Like LL Cool J Turned into the Hulk like he was so mad and it just seemed like he was growing so he was like did you hit me please tell me you did not hit me his voice changed and everything I was like I hope you didn't hit that. And they broke it up. Everything he said, everything I love, ain't nothing you're going to be able to do to stop what's going to happen to you.
Starting point is 00:20:32 And we like, yo, yo, yo, relax. Everybody calm down. It done got out of hand. What he did that was slick was he talked us out of it. He was like, nah, I'm good, man. Come on, y'all tripping, man. We doing an $85 million movie. Let's do what we got to do.
Starting point is 00:20:45 No problem. I'm going to act. Let's shoot the scene'm good, man. Come on, y'all tripping, man. We doing an $85 million movie. Let's do what we got to do. No problem. I'm going to act. Right. Let's shoot the scene. Right. Oh, shit. So we go back across the field. We come back again.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Action. He say something. I say something. He say something. Todd just snatches his helmet off, like just snatches it off. Woof. Boom. Knocked the boy, like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:21:07 like, it looked like he got thrown by like a goddamn transformer or something. He was like, bro! I was like, oh, shit. Jamie, boom! Hits his head on this big thing. Everybody's going crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:23 And they kept it rolling. I said, oh. Oh, nobody yelled cut? Nobody yelled cut. Oh, shit. If you go back and watch. You should have set your line right there. If you go back and watch the movie, part of it is in the movie.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Then they cut to something else. And then you see Albertino. What's going on, guys? Come on. But that real part, that part was real. Now, we didn't have back then, you know, obviously, social media and it would have went crazy, but we had about
Starting point is 00:21:51 5,000 people in that stadium watching it live and they saw what happened. Then it got crazy. I'm not going to eat up your whole show. No, no, we're in. That's why you're here, sir. No, but what was really, really unfortunate you're here, sir. No, but what was really, really unfortunate was
Starting point is 00:22:08 that the guys got into it, but the comedy to me was the after party or the afterwards, right? So Jamie cuts his tongue. He has to go to the hospital. He's got to get like 16 stitches or something in his tongue because he bit down on his tongue, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:22:23 So he's going to the hospital. LL goes to his trailer and shit. And it's tight, bro. We can't film right now because we don't know what's going on with Jamie when he comes back from the hospital. The tension is crazy. Now, here's the funny part. My trailer is here. LL's trailer here.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Jamie's here. I'm in the middle. So everything is going past my trailer window here. LL's trailer here. Jamie's here. I'm in the middle. So everything is going past my trailer window every few minutes. And it's all like, yo, what it is. It is what it is. It's going down. I'm like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:22:53 And he catches on his phones. We in Miami. We right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bring them all. Yeah. I want the whole crew down here. You already know.
Starting point is 00:23:04 On an $85 million bill. I want the whole crew here. You already know. On an $85 million bill. The whole crew here. In 24 hours, it was motherfuckers coming down on South Beach and Timberland Boots and Yankee Hatch. It was so many New York cats in the parking lot. It was crazy, bro.
Starting point is 00:23:21 With a leather jacket on. With a leather jacket on. And it's 90 degrees in here. Mean muggins. Yo, they mean muggins. They got the production people shook. I don't know who LL called, but it was 85 motherfuckers outside his trailer the next day. It was deep.
Starting point is 00:23:38 I was like, oh, this is bad, bad. And then Jamie had, like, you know, TGT. They was like little R&B cats. He only had, like, three or four cats. He had an R&B cats. He only had like three or four cats. He had an R&B group? No, I'm just joking. Okay. I'm like, wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:23:51 It was like the funny shit was you got all these real New York goons. But he didn't have his friend Breon with him? Was Breon there? No, Breon wasn't there at the time. Breon wasn't there, okay. Dave Brown. It was a couple other. But the contrast of power was shifted.
Starting point is 00:24:06 You had the entire, all the Queens, Brooklyn, whatever, here. And then you had, like, Jamie and his manager and a few guys. So Jamie got security now. Yeah. Oh, now he does. Yeah, he got his way. Things done changed. Things are changed.
Starting point is 00:24:21 But I'm saying at that time, I was like, yo, what we going to do? Like, is it going to be like more shit? So we wasn't filming. Nobody was filming. And nobody knew. Agents is on the phone. It's bad. The person who saved the day was Jim Brown.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Good old Jim Brown. Old head, Jim Brown, OG. Thought he was a civil rights man. What the fuck going on? He was a civil rights man, right? He came in, what the fuck? And they come to my trailer. Hey, Bill.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. What the fuck going on? I'm not going to lie, Bill. The way that you're in the middle of the story, I kind of feel like you gassed it off. No, I'm not. And the way that Jim Brown went to your trailer. No, no. You sure you ain't gassed it off a little bit like you had?
Starting point is 00:25:03 No, because Jim Brown came to me because he don't know them like that. Oh, okay, okay. So Jim Brown is like an OG for me on a personal level. Of course, of course. OG for all of us. So he come to me, he's like, yo, Bill, what the fuck going on? We got all these motherfuckers here. How did he find out, though? Nobody was working.
Starting point is 00:25:19 It was just shut down. The set was shut down for a second or whatever, right? So he comes to me, and he was like, ain't no motherfucking way we not going to do this movie. This movie's important, blah, blah, blah. So now he calls a meeting like he bringing the Crips and the Bloods together. In my trailer. No, I'm not bullshitting. They had the fucking shit in my trailer.
Starting point is 00:25:45 I want to get... You're the neutral zone. So I'm sitting there, and they try to talk it out, blah, blah, blah. He's orchestrating and telling... Now, Elvis was with it. Jamie is not. Jamie wasn't with it. He wasn't with it.
Starting point is 00:25:56 I mean, why would he be, you know what I mean, at that moment or whatever? So Jim Brown somehow figured out a way to talk to them, to figure it out, then go back and talk to people, and then we start filming again. But without Jim Brown, I don't know what would have happened because he just gave us some type of clarity, you know what I'm saying, from an OG side. He made it seem like basically it was stupid that we would be fighting or disrupting an $80 million movie, black men getting a chance to do something together, and we out here fighting. We look crazy. Because we did look crazy at the end of the day.
Starting point is 00:26:27 But they ended up fixing it. But it was really crazy. Because only at that time, Jim Brown or Bill Cosby could have scratched the beef. But we talking, this is 1998. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Going into 99 here in Miami. Shout out to Miami, by the way. But you being a raw comedian, how did you feel about Bill Cosby? Because Bill Cosby was the comedian that made it. But when he made it, it seemed like he started critiquing everybody that was raw. Yeah. How was that, knowing that and then finding out the life that Bill was living? Or you already knew?
Starting point is 00:27:00 No, I didn't know that. I mean, coming into the game, for me, Bill Cosbyby was one of my he's on my wall of like inspired comedians that made me want to be a comic right like watching him his his career watching him tell stories that's how i got good at telling stories watching guys like him wanting to be a comic then you can be a tv star and you can do movies he sort of set that blueprint up for us, right? But he was a clean comic, though. I'm not knocking his hustle. He got on Eddie Murphy back in the day for being raw,
Starting point is 00:27:35 but everybody laying different, it doesn't mean that I'm less of a comedian because I'm raw and you're not. We both achieving laughter, then it works. Dave Chappelle ain't a like, a dirty comic, but he uses, you know, flavor words, but, like, he's not a dirty comic. I mean, Eddie Murphy was more edgier than, you know, a Dave or a Kevin Hart at that time.
Starting point is 00:27:55 But it's a different time. Yeah. You could be raw back then. So to people right now, although you're saying what you just said about Dave, to people now, Dave is wrong. Yeah. He is that.
Starting point is 00:28:07 But let's stick with Bill Cosby. Okay. Oh. Oh, you're getting right to it. Yeah. Well, I was, you know, when I started hearing about it. Our blackness at times protect our people. And we say, man, that ain't true.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Like, you told a story about Mike Tyson one time. Yeah. And it was a booty call. You described it. Right. Did you think that, like, that's some bullshit? No, I thought it was. I didn't want to believe anything of like that.
Starting point is 00:28:34 It wasn't until Hannibal Buress did. They leaked a clip of something he said on stage. And then it started buzzing around L.A. So it started buzzing. So I was like, yo, what? I was like, yo, I don't make no sense. Like, why would Hannibal say that? But it was a clip of a whole set, right?
Starting point is 00:28:52 So I'm like, nah. I kind of was like, nah, that can't be possible, whatever, whatever, right? And so then other stuff started coming up and then I was like, damn, that's more than three people. You seen the documentary? Yeah, the documentary was tough. Yeah, it was tough.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Yeah. That's all I know. That's all I know. Yeah, it was tough. But see, I wasn't, honestly, I never did the Cosby show. I never got a chance
Starting point is 00:29:16 to do A Different World or any of those shows back in the day. So I never saw anything. I never got a chance to even meet Mr. Cosby. They claim they never saw it. No, maybe they did.
Starting point is 00:29:26 It's like he had a separate life. Maybe he just had, he was insulated away. I don't know, but I'm saying like for me as a comic, when I was coming up in the game, I never got a chance to meet Mr. Cosby. You know what I'm saying? He was my idol coming up in the game. I was like, yo, I want to get on TV. I want to do
Starting point is 00:29:41 my own show. He was writing, producing. I mean, he did everything the right way. You know what I mean? So I was like, yo, Bill Cosby, you know, oh man, he's the blueprint for how the brothers can move, right? Made me like Jello Buddy. Right. But what I'm saying, like, you know, it
Starting point is 00:29:57 was a lot of stuff that came out that you just go, wow, you just never know in this game. In the business, you just never fucking in this game. In the business, you just never fucking know what's going to happen or people who they truly are, you know? The documentary, the first time I watched it, I was like, I'm still
Starting point is 00:30:13 up in the edge. The second time and the third time I watched it three times, I was like, damn, this nigga's guilty. And you know, and my good friend Chris Spencer, you know. Yeah, I love Chris Chris Spencer so he called me he said yo
Starting point is 00:30:26 I actually know some other women and it was just like wow because it's so far fetched especially of us being a black man and then all his
Starting point is 00:30:34 accusers at first were white women it's just it just naturally didn't feel right so but then it was a few
Starting point is 00:30:43 sisters in there too the sisters all coming out. I said, he discriminated. When it comes to stuff like that, this is the thing I'm going to say, and I'm not going to, you know, dog anybody. The thing about men is we never get cleaned up. If we get accused of something, it's on you.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Like, they don't come back and go, oh, my bad, guess what? You never did anything. They just throw a title on you, and you get stuck with it, and you, hopefully, my bad. Guess what? You never did anything. They just throw a title on you and you get stuck with it and you, hopefully, your lawyers and your PR people can kind of get you back on point, right? But in a situation like an accusation
Starting point is 00:31:13 about that, that's a tough stain on a man. So I don't jump out on the curb on that real fast. I got to wait and see because I pray, I always pray that it's not true. I always pray like, yo yo please tell me my man ain't do that but not with Harvey Weinstein you knew he did I knew he did okay
Starting point is 00:31:28 yeah it was ridiculous like he was ridiculous you know Jeffrey Epstein like certain things you just it's just so bananas you've been in a party with Jeffrey Epstein no no no no but I'm saying like what's that story but like Jeffrey Epstein situation was so no, no, no. But I'm saying like- What's that story? But like Jeffrey Epstein's situation was so bananas.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And it was such a, almost like a business of a sort of how many people was involved and how they was doing. A lot of layers to it. It was so many layers of power. You can see how he was living within that world. And he was basically like, felt like he was extorting everybody so he wouldn't tell. So everybody was like oh my god oh my god. But it came to an end right? And so it didn't.
Starting point is 00:32:09 She's still around and they have the list and they haven't released it. They're not going to release no list because it would be too many people but in a situation like Mr. Cosby who in my opinion his legacy you know to me was unbelievable to get accused.
Starting point is 00:32:29 And finally, they said he was not guilty of that. At the end, he got out of jail, blah, blah, blah. But still. Oh, no, he didn't get out of jail because he's not guilty. He got out of jail because of the technicalities. But you know what I'm saying. Let's be clear. I got to be on point.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Right, right, right. Kanye shit. I got to be sharp. Yo, yo, yo., right. Kanye shit. I got to be sharp. Yo, yo, yo. Every since this Kanye shit. I got to be sharp. Yo. I've been waiting to tell you this shit.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I never. You notice how I looked at the camera. I was like, hey, guys. Like, Nori. Hold it down now. I've never seen Nori's voice at room temperature. After that Kanye shit. You came on to Breakfast Club,
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Starting point is 00:38:46 You like to stay in the shit So Bill So you The first time you heard it You knew You didn't know Bill You didn't But then
Starting point is 00:38:53 What's the comedian's name Hannibal Barrett Yeah Hannibal Barrett That's you said You started to hear these stories Yeah That's the first time I heard it
Starting point is 00:39:03 Okay That's kind of like When it went viral Yeah like I had never heard Anything weird's the first time I heard it. Okay. Was when he was saying it. That's kind of like when it went viral. Yeah, like I had never heard anything weird like that until I just heard it in a skit. And I was like, damn, why would Hannibal say something like that? That's so bizarre. And then right after that, it just kept, it felt like it was like, boom, boom, boom. That's how, that's how I was in that way.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Like the machine turned on for that. Because like I'd never seen the effects of Bill Cosby other than seeing him on television. Right. So, but you as a comedian, you know that. I know the effects of DMX, of Tupac, even though I never met Tupac, of Mike Tyson. And when I heard them accused of the same thing, I was like, there's no way possible. So you being in the comedy world, and especially controversy back then, controversy back then,
Starting point is 00:39:49 you couldn't really, you ain't have a Twitter, you ain't have Instagram. No social media at all. Did you think it was a setup, or you knew? I just didn't understand why all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:40:00 you know, Mr. Cosby was going through a tough time. I'm like, yo, man he's been clean his whole life you know mr he almost played it perfect you know what i mean um and there's the conspiracies around him buying the network and right it almost seemed like to be honest with you it was like once he was about to buy nbc everything went wrong right but when they went back to the footage of him and larry king that's when I lost it. What was that like?
Starting point is 00:40:27 You ain't got the Spanish fly? They was like, yeah, Spanish fly. Two old niggas talking about Spanish fly. You know they were out of line. You ain't seen it. Oh, they were like,
Starting point is 00:40:35 oh, oh, you ain't seen that? I never knew what Spanish fly was, but I heard about it. It used to be a thing. They said back in the day, you know, in them 70s parties and stuff, that guys used to do that, and they used to do the Quaaludes.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Quaaludes, too. I ain't going to lie. Part of me wants to do a Quaalude. I'm just going to throw it out there. You're still thinking about it. I'm just thinking about it because it's like Scarface and them niggas had a great time. He's like, take another Quaalude and call me in the morning. I was like, what the fuck is a Quaalude?
Starting point is 00:41:04 I never really figured that out. You're a Kweilu. You out from out here. You better relax. You had a Kweilu. He's like, I ain't never had no Kweilu. You had the shit from out here that I didn't have. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:41:17 I might have had a Kweilu, but I didn't know. Yeah, man, it happens, man. All right, is it time? Is it time for a quick time or slide? Let's give him his flowers. Oh, let's give him his flowers. That's right. Our show is about giving people their flowers.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Okay. And like I said, I studied you, and I said, wow, you are really the slick Rick of comedy. Thank you. Like, the way you could start a story and just then remind us in the middle what the story is going, and at the end, just bring us all in. I had never, and you deserve your flowers. We want to give it to you face to face. To your face. What? Yes, And you deserve your flowers. We want to give it to you face to face. What?
Starting point is 00:41:47 Yes, yes, yes. Oh, man. I got my gold flowers. Snoop said it's like winning the Grammy because it's from your own people. And they won't die. Like it could be. It won't die. Thank you. Hey, man. I'm super honored because
Starting point is 00:42:03 comedy is, to me, is a gift. You know, you just never know how it will go, right? You just do it from the heart. Like, I've always just wanted to be funny for people, you know what I mean? And I think what happened was during COVID, when nobody was moving and I was working on my book and writing different chapters, I start remembering stuff. And I just start telling stories on Instagram in my car. And them shits went bananas.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Like, people was like, yo, yo, stories is like movies. I remember the first one I saw was Bull Busta Rhymes. You describe? Oh, yeah, with Busta Busta. Somebody tried to be on stage with Busta Rhymes.
Starting point is 00:42:36 It was Coolio. Oh, Coolio. He got body. Rest in peace. Yeah, rest in peace. Rest in peace to Coolio. Let's be careful. Yeah, let's be careful.
Starting point is 00:42:42 We got to be, yeah, yeah, yeah. You on skates right now. Yo, he on probation last month. That's a good analogy. And you know Norrie Wow that a motherfucker say whatever. Lately, he been like,
Starting point is 00:42:58 hey guys, it's up to you. It's up to you. It's true. That is strictly your opinion. It's true. It's true. It's up to you It's true That is strictly your opinion It's true It's true It's true
Starting point is 00:43:08 We're not cutting your legs off We love you man Okay so look Is it time Quick time to start Let's go let's do it Okay so we got a game Can you explain it
Starting point is 00:43:16 We fuck it up every time It's the easiest game Basically Can I have a cocktail as well Yes please Right there Right there Right there
Starting point is 00:43:24 No they hate us for it No no no They been hating me Saying. Can I have a cocktail as well? Yes, please. Right there. Right there. No, they hate us for it. No, no, no. They've been hating me for how much I fuck up the rules. It's like, you just can't say the rules straight. Can you not? It's multiple choice. You get two names or two things. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Pick one or the other, right? If you don't pick any, it's the political answer. We drinking. That's it. Okay. So you pick one, we good. All right. He got high shot glass.
Starting point is 00:43:44 We drinking. Oh, shit. All of us you pick one we good We drinking How many rounds I don't know why we call it quick time with Slam because there ain't nothing quick about this. Except for Jeezy. Except for Jeezy, okay. Where's the shot? Okay, yeah, yeah. Whatever you want to. You could do tequila. You could have some Dominican Mama Juana.
Starting point is 00:44:10 I don't recommend that. I don't recommend that. They make that in the bathtub in Kendall. You don't want that. You don't want that. You don't want that. So where's the tequila? I'll take some vodka.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Tequila, this is a rock made by a black man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Made by a black man. God damn it. Make some noise for that. Make some noise for that. Make some noise for that, God damn it.
Starting point is 00:44:28 And he stole your girl at one point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can drink to that. No, he actually saved me. He saved you, yeah. She was a setup queen. She was a setup.
Starting point is 00:44:36 She was a trap queen. It didn't sound like he stole her. No, he got that girl somewhere right now. He saved me some money. She's a trap queen. Okay. Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Oh, this first one. Okay, y'all on fire. Try and get him to drink immediately. Oh, man. Remember, if you say both, you drink. So it's either one or the other, or if you don't say nothing, you drink. Or if you say both. If you say both or neither, we drink.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Because you got respect for both of them? We want you to pick one. If you pick one, nobody drinks. Okay. And we're trying to set you up. By the way, absolutely. Yeah, by the way, I don't make these questions. This guy from Columbia and this Dominican guy right here, they put it together.
Starting point is 00:45:04 What's his name? Hazardous and Mr. Leaf. They sit here, they watch you. Okay, I see. This is how they do it. They sit here, they watch you, and then they come up with these questions. And it's whatever criteria in your mind is why you pick it up for you. All right, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:45:16 I feel like we've explained that simple this time, so the fans won't kill me. The fans will know, Noreen, stop explaining the game. You can view us. We're making like an algebra thing. We're like, well, you know, maybe if you say that. Y'all making me nervous.
Starting point is 00:45:29 You ready? Okay, Richard Pryor or Eddie Murphy? Richard Pryor. Okay. You want to explain why? Richard Pryor is the true king of comedy for me, period. Eddie Murphy right there. You know, you got Mike and you got Kobe.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Right there, boom, bam. You like sports too. You know, you got Mike and you got Kobe. Right there. Boom, bam. You like sports too. Your sports analogies be crazy. Martin or Chris Rock? In which way though? See, that's already sounding like a shot to me. I mean, to me...
Starting point is 00:45:59 Wait, wait, wait. You gotta explain it. I'm gonna tell you why. Let me tell you why. Alright, cool. You got to explain it. I'm going to tell you why. And by the way, you're going to help water shots. Let me tell you why. All right, cool. All right, okay. If we talking, we got Martin and we talking Chris Rock. Martin got the most prolific sitcom I ever seen in my life. Ever, ever, ever.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Ever. So if we going TV, I got to go Martin. Yeah, you sound confused. I'm going to drink it. Yeah. But if you talk about stand up I think Chris Rock's First stand up
Starting point is 00:46:29 I forget which one it was I think it was here in New York It was bonkers So if we're going stand up specials That's one but for TV I'm going to go Martin I'm going to get a drink These ain't both Yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:46:42 But that's how you know My New York energy is rubbing off You got a shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's saying both. He's saying both. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I got it. Yeah, yeah. But that's how you know. That's how you know my New York energy is rubbing off. You got your shot? Yeah. She got to give me something. Oh, what you want? Vodka or tequila? No, tequila.
Starting point is 00:46:52 I already got vodka. All right. All right. So he going to chill and go tequila. Let's go. Thank you. Thank you. What's next?
Starting point is 00:46:57 All right. You ready? Yeah, you ready? Wait, hold up. I got to do the shot. Oh, let's do the shot. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Thank you all for being on point. Know the rules, boy. And it's 420 right now. It's 420. That's it? On the dot. No, I'm talking about, yeah. Oh, let's do the shot. That's right. That's right. Thank you all for being on point. Know the rules, Corey. And it's 420 right now. It's 420. That's it? On the dot. No, I'm talking about, yeah. Oh, for real?
Starting point is 00:47:09 Let's get it. Yeah. Thank you. You don't smoke? No, I don't smoke. Okay, cool. But I do inhale other people's smoke. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers. Okay, I want to take this one. Nas or Jay-Z? Jay-Z. Okay. Your Nas new album is hard, too. That shit is hard. I'm definitely getting it.
Starting point is 00:47:36 I like this one. Kodak Black or 21 Savage? 21 Savage. Okay. I think he's going to be biased with this next one. Okay, you go. Rap City or Yo! MTV Raps?
Starting point is 00:47:53 Man, stop playing. Yo! MTV Raps. Stop playing. That is not debatable. Shout out to Ed Lover, Dr. Dre, and Fab Five. Yes. Freddie. Legends.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Yeah, legendary. Robin Williams or George Carlin? Those are legends right there. Get the shot ready. I'm going to go George Carlin. And rest in peace to both of them. Yeah, but George Carlin was my guy. Like, that guy got me really wanting to be a stand-up.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Yeah, George Carlin. Okay guy. Like, that guy got me really wanting to be a stand-up. Yeah, George Carlin. Okay. Dave Chappelle or Kevin Hart? Man, I'm going to have to go with David. David. I love the story that you said. Dave came up to you and called you John Coltrane. Yeah, it's a true story.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Because Dave is so smart. Like, people don't understand. Like, Dave didn't come out the hood. You know what I'm saying? He came from two educated people. Beautiful educators. He's very intelligent. He takes his time.
Starting point is 00:48:57 And he has references that are bizarre. And he smokes a lot of weed, right? And even more cigarettes. Yeah, and he smokes cigarettes like they candy. He don't even finish. He's like, man, hold on. Give me a light. So this is a true story.
Starting point is 00:49:14 So out of nowhere, one day, that's why I put it into a story because it was so bizarre. Radio City Music Hall. Radio City Music Hall. So Dave comes up to me, right? He's like, hey, man, I'm going to ask you a favor. I want you to go on stage. Now, I literally just walked into the back of Radio City Music Hall. Trying to surprise him. Trying to surprise him for his birthday and shit. So, because, you know, I got the text. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:49:39 yo, I'm going to. So, he's like, man, this is going to be insane. I'm like, what you need me to do? He said, just do two minutes, ten minutes, ten minutes. It'll be fine. Chris is here. Jerry Seinfeld's here. It's going to be an extravaganza. I'm like, oh, my God. I can't make this shit up.
Starting point is 00:49:59 I'm like, I don't know if you, as a rapper, you know what I'm saying, as a DJ, like if somebody put you on the spot, can you spin right now? You don't have your records, you don't have your shit. Fat Joe does it to me all the time. Yo, yo, can you do it right now? So basically, he put me on the spot at Radio City. It's sold out. I'm like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Like, I'm trying to figure out my jokes, okay? All right, what am I going to start with? What am I going to do? And I'm trying to figure it out, right? So Dave was just watching me. He was like, man, listen. You're going to be fine. He higher than a motherfucker, bro.
Starting point is 00:50:32 And he's, would you like this? I was like, no, I'm trying to get in my jokes. He was like, man, relax. You're probably one of the most talented comedians. I promise you, man. I've seen everything. I've seen all of them. The greats.
Starting point is 00:50:50 And I'm going to say this to you. Before you go on stage, in my lifetime, you're John Coltrane. And I was like, oh, shit, because, you know, John Coltrane was so epic. And I was like, what do you mean? He was like, because John Coltrane, he had everything. Charisma, he had the ladies, he was cool, the guys liked him, and that's you, Bill Bellamy. And I'm sitting there like, oh, shit, about to get emotional and shit.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Two seconds later, Chris Tucker come around. Man, he told me the same shit, man. Yeah. He told me the same shit, man We gotta shout out Dave For mentioning us on his SNL monologue Yo, I saw that That was huge, man Dave is a good dude, man And he loves the culture
Starting point is 00:51:42 He loves hip hop So he always He always finds ways To keep it in the pocket. I love it. So Jerry Springer or Jerry Seinfeld. Your mind is in Jerry Springer right now. Man, the shots is hitting me right now. Jerry Seinfeld or Jim Carrey?
Starting point is 00:52:03 Oh. I'm going to take a shot to it first. I'm going to go with Jim Carrey because Jim Carrey came out of In Living Color so incredible in his career. The imprint, it's never been done before. That part, I love both of them, but I just think the way Jim Carrey came in,
Starting point is 00:52:25 only white guy on an all-black cast, and just Michael Jackson, his way up out that thing. That's an L. He was incredible. Are you with me? And his style, too. The physical style. Yeah, the physical comedy.
Starting point is 00:52:41 We had Wale sit there, and I told Wale, I was like, I never really got Seinfeld, but I love Kirby Enthusiasm. Wale was like, yo, I suggest you watch it. The other day,
Starting point is 00:52:54 I actually went, I'm on season five of Seinfeld. I watched the whole shit going through it. And it's actually a show about nothing. It really is. Like, it's really about, like, if you think about it, it's about these show about nothing. It really is. Like, it's really about, like, if you think about it, it's about these guys getting together in this restaurant and eating carbs.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Because I don't know why I keep, everyone eats carbs in this restaurant. Like, everyone is just sandwiches and french fries. And it's just like, but it's brilliance in that. Yeah, but I think what was brilliant about Jerry Seinfeld was, to me, and is, and he was on that show at Radio City Music Hall, and he killed. He's a real comedian, bro. And for a black audience? This is a black audience, I'm assuming?
Starting point is 00:53:35 Yo, it was a mix. Okay. Because Dave, you know, he had that level. His ticket's like 400, so it's a mix. You know, it's a few black people, but it's, you know. So, no, Jerry Seinfeld, what I like about Jerry is Jerry was able to
Starting point is 00:53:49 take his comedy, his premises, and put them in a show and make a story around it. That's what I liked about it. You know what I mean? And that's why... Everyone thinks they're friends is dope, but who could really make $400 million about hanging out with their friends? Bro, nobody but Jerry Seinfeld. Just think about it. No one's
Starting point is 00:54:05 crew is going to be like, we're whack. Everyone's going to be like, you're a chick. Don't think that you can do this, but he's a guy if you think about the essence of Seinfeld, it's about him and his friends, one of which was a girl that he dated and they figured they're not compatible
Starting point is 00:54:21 but they're still going to be cool. Where does this happen in the world? Where does this happen? Who the fuck has an E-Lane? Nobody No one but Seinfeld I'm sorry I'm getting emotional guys But
Starting point is 00:54:34 Because this shit is brilliant to me Because I'm like wow And maybe that was his unique relationship Yeah but that was his sensibility If you go If you watch it again And you just really think about like He put us into his
Starting point is 00:54:46 world of his friends and his sense of humor. And when I seen him do that stand-up, because I had never seen Jerry Seinfeld do his stand-up live, Radio City Music Hall, that night, he murdered for 25 minutes. Everything he said was bananas,
Starting point is 00:55:02 bro. And I was like, oh, shit. This is a guy who got success. Listen to bananas, bro. And I was like, oh, shit. He's not a come-up comedian. This is a guy who got success. Bro, listen to me, bro. Jerry Seinfeld ain't nothing to play with. You do not. It's a couple cats in this game that's veterans. If they do a guest spot and you not ready, you going to get bodied, bro. I had George Wallace open.
Starting point is 00:55:20 He came, ran up, text me. Yo, B, you in Atlanta? I'm coming. I said, oh, shit. He walked in that motherfucker with a pad. He old school, yellow. Remember the yellow shirt with the lines? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I'm going to do five, seven, and eight. Went on stage and tore the whole house down. And every joke was choo, choo, choo. So it's something to be said about that generation because they're very technical. Like, I'm a part of the Dave Chappelle generation. Me, Dave, Martin, Steve Harvey. Deaf Comedy Jam. Like, we—all right, I'm going to call us the Deaf Comedy Jam all-stars, right?
Starting point is 00:55:58 We're behind these cats, okay? But the cats that was a little—that's a little older than us, they came from another school where it was structured in this boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Like everything could be hitting. You don't you'll never see a pro from that generation throw out a dud and it don't it'll be a bunch of empty space. I learned watching them that, oh, there's a rhythm to their comedy. It's a set up, jab, jab, boom. Or it's a set up, boom, set up, boom.
Starting point is 00:56:28 It's never like say something and people waiting for 30 fucking minutes to get the punchline. Those days don't happen with those guys. Now, some of the new comics got to learn that technique because we got the social media and stuff. But if they were to go back and study the greats, the George Carlins, you know what I'm saying? We talking, even Robin Williams, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:49 we talk about, let's go back, Marsha Warfield, like the classic, like, forget TV, stand up, Paul Mooney?
Starting point is 00:56:58 Mm-hmm. Man. Paul Mooney sit in a chair. You know what's crazy? Paul Mooney wouldn't exist in this time because Paul Mooney- Oh, they couldn't even take Paul Mooney. Yeah, Paul Mooney hurt in a chair. You know what's crazy? Paul Mooney wouldn't exist in this time. Oh, they couldn't even take Paul Mooney.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Yeah, Paul Mooney hurt everybody's feelings, including black people. Yeah! He would offend everybody. Honestly, I don't like where we are right now with comedy, right? Because this whole cancer... Is it comedy or cancer culture? Well, two things. Okay. I don't
Starting point is 00:57:27 like cancer culture because it is, it's just swinging left to right. It's no, it's no like specific. If they don't like it, oh, it's like somebody that's always in their feelings. Cancer culture is like a person who's always in their feelings. Like to me, people on Facebook is always in their feelings. No matter what you people on Facebook is always in their feelings. No matter what you post, they be, oh my God. You don't go on Twitter? Huh?
Starting point is 00:57:49 You don't go on Twitter? Well, Twitter, I throw it over there, but I don't know if Twitter has the same feeling as Facebook. Well, Twitter's my drug. I go on Twitter to feel great
Starting point is 00:57:58 and feel horrible at the same time. If I want to feel great, then somebody be like, what's up, legend? You a great dude. Yo, keep doing what you're doing. If I want to feel horrible, somebody be like What's up legend You a great dude Keep doing what you're doing If I want to feel horrible
Starting point is 00:58:08 I still go to Twitter I be like Yo what's going on y'all Then somebody be like We don't care Fuck you You be like Why
Starting point is 00:58:13 What did I do to you sir Yeah they just go so hard Yeah it's crazy But the cancel culture For comedians To me Is like An old school
Starting point is 00:58:24 Traditional Mindset Comedians, to me, is like an old school traditional mindset trying to keep us conservative. Like, don't say that you're going to hurt the little people. Don't say that you're going to hate this community. Don't say that. Comedy is about taking the truth and flipping it. Like, comedians, our job is to snatch reality, snatch observations, turn it around, and bring it back to you in a funny way.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Why are we, so now we got a tiptoe, so you got a guy like me, you got a guy like Dave, we can't say a joke that we thought of that's so funny that might make people think about stuff in a different way. You know, you got anything is sensitive.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Like, I remember, I'm going to tell you the first instance I remember when shit got weird. Do you remember when Janet Jackson, the boom bout? Yeah. I'll never forget that. Wonderful moment in history. I was happy. I didn't see the malfunction. It was weird that it was outrage over it. It was outrage
Starting point is 00:59:23 over the thing flipped down, right? Justin Timberlake went, whoa. Okay, whoa. So real quick, I'll never forget, I was on tour. After the Janet Jackson malfunction, I went into a radio station, and I had to sign a release that I would not say anything that was inappropriate. Like prior to you getting on before. And they made all the radio DJs.
Starting point is 00:59:49 I never forget this shit. Cause I was in Boston. I came in a radio station. He said, yo, Mr. Bellamy, everything is crazy around here right now.
Starting point is 00:59:56 You know, the radio station is tight on us. We can't say you can't use no bad language. Can't insinuate. Can't do this. Can you got to sign this? You won't be on your a game. I said,
Starting point is 01:00:04 Oh snap. Cause you know, you could to sign this. You won't be on your a game. I said, Oh snap. Cause you know, you could go on certain radio stations and get loose. And there's certain radio stations you couldn't, but it was a mandate. I don't know if you remember this. I don't know what year that super bullshit was. It got tight.
Starting point is 01:00:15 If you was in radio, it got tight. That's what it is right now. It getting tight, which is like, it went backwards. Cause that's how it was in the early days of entertainment. Remember you couldn't go in the Bible Belt.
Starting point is 01:00:26 And if you got arrested, if you said some profane shit, loose shit. So it's like we're going backwards. Yeah, but I feel like it cycles. You know what I mean? Definitely cycles, for sure. It's definitely cyclical, right? Like it goes in, oh, now we're going to be uptight. Then we're going to get loose again.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Because if you think earlier we talked about Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy broke out the box being raw. Right. Like, think about it. Like, and I think that's what made him Eddie Murphy because he didn't give a fuck and he, like, did him. Right. And he became,
Starting point is 01:00:58 he went from raw to delirious to the dope. That's why he became Eddie Murphy, right? Right. So there's a part of America that wants the raw. Right. In the leather suit, too. Right. With the pinky ring on top of the leather glove.
Starting point is 01:01:11 I never figured that out. But anyway, make a long story short. Keep it moving. Right now in our culture, we have to make a decision on are we going to go for the truth of what it is and not care or be scared? I can't tell scared jokes.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Right. Because now I'm tiptoeing. Right. Like, to me, I love Dave Chappelle on this respect, that I love Dave because he's always pushed the envelope. It's not like all of a sudden Dave is pushing the envelope. Why did the Dave Chappelle show become huge, right? So you want Dave Chappelle to stop being him and do something
Starting point is 01:01:46 else? He's doing what he's ordained to do. He's doing what his gift is given to him, and the people love it. Now, every joke might not hit right for you. You ain't got to like every joke I do. You ain't got to like every story I tell, but maybe 80%
Starting point is 01:02:02 of them is cool. Maybe one you ain't fucking with. So does that make me a bad guy or a bad comedian? Nah. But it's social media that exacerbates all of that shit. Yeah. Because that's the only thing that I'm worried about, it being just a cycle. Because before, the cycles would happen.
Starting point is 01:02:16 But now social media empowers every single voice to be a keyboard warrior. I mean, I am conscious about what I say. Honestly, you know, watching, you know, like even with my boy about what I say honestly you know watching you know like even with my boy Kevin Hart like you know he went through a tough time like he he said a joke that was so long ago it was like 14 12 13 14 years ago and they went back and tried to use a that's the thing but that's the thing that's horrible for comedians, right? Like, we do jokes.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Like, we playing around. That would be like me being in a dice game or kicking it with my boys, and I say a joke, and somebody film me and put it up on the gram. And I'm joking with Nori having a good time, but it's only for us right here. And they put it on the gram. I'm hit. Yep, that's the scary shit. That's the only part that I don't like. Like, it's like, oh, Oh my god They go back in your archives
Starting point is 01:03:06 Some shit I said When I didn't even know I was a comic Bring it up now Say oh so You don't like alligators I heard you say that It could be someone
Starting point is 01:03:14 You said some crazy shit About alligators Someone that wasn't Even alive back then Going back Don't even understand The context of that period That's what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:03:23 That's the only thing That's scary for us. Do you don't feel like that in music? Yeah, that's why I ain't making music no more. I feel like this right here. Oh, yeah, you a little shook right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like this right here.
Starting point is 01:03:33 No, you ain't able to see me. No, no, no, no. You go to the next one. The next one is on you. All right, go ahead. Let's see where we at. Where are we at? Yeah, because I don't agree with this one.
Starting point is 01:03:40 You don't agree with it? Uh-uh. After Jerry Seinfeld and Jim Carrey. Bernie Mac or Red Fox? Two legends. That's tough. You did your job. Yeah, my shot is ready.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Yeah, I got a drink. I can't. Your shot is bananas. You can't. Because those are both my dudes. That's legendary. That's a tie. Cheers.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Cheers. It's hard to make this game even longer, but... I think you like drinking. Yeah, I do. But it made me think about... We all drink, champs, right? That's right. But let me think about it.
Starting point is 01:04:16 I don't see no water nowhere. Could Red Fox... I'm black and Puerto Rican, right? But I remember the first time I ever heard the word spic before was watching Red Fox. Was it? Red Fox was triple X, bro.
Starting point is 01:04:35 No, no. I don't remember it being worse than Archie Bunker. There was a guy named Raul. Oh, I remember. He used to come over to Red Fox's house. He's like, you're dirty Puerto Rican. And I was like, whoa. Eight years old at the time, seven years old.
Starting point is 01:04:52 First time I ever been offended. Like, holy shit. You were offended? Of course. Come on, bro. Only time. Why? Why be offended?
Starting point is 01:05:03 Because I'm black and Puerto Rican. And I grew up with black and Puerto Ricans of the worst kind. Right. So when I was being black, I was too black for the Puerto Ricans. When I was being Puerto Rican, I was too Puerto Rican for the blacks. Right. And I remember, but no one ever really liked being that out front, right? This is too me.
Starting point is 01:05:24 And then Red Fox, I'm watching Redd Foxx. And Redd Foxx said, hey, man, this dirty Puerto Rican. I said, oh, shit. That's hilarious. Yeah, it's hilarious. But it hit different. But it also hurt me. But it hurt me to the extent that I get the joke.
Starting point is 01:05:40 I got the joke. But when did you say it? How old could you have been? We were all kids when that show was out. I don't know if it was a repeat or if it was live. I don't remember. We probably wouldn't even understand some of this. Listen, Red Fox probably couldn't exist right
Starting point is 01:05:51 now either. He was, bro, he was brutal. He was like Don Rickles. Like Don Rickles even right now. His style, how irreverent it is, and how he hit every nationality. But to me, it was brilliant, right?
Starting point is 01:06:09 He made fun of everybody, so you can't say, oh. That's why it can't be offensive when you see it for what it is. That's what I think. Right. But then now, the one group would go, oh. Like, you was hurt, but it's a million of y'all. So now on social media, y'all go crazy. You took it to the chest a little bit.
Starting point is 01:06:26 I was like, all right. I get it. I get what you're saying. But now with social media, it could become a zillion people that feel like you did and get really, really mad over a joke. Here's my thing. It's a joke, bro. Yeah. I'm not a politician.
Starting point is 01:06:43 This is not something that is like a law. This is like a moment of laughter, right? And if I say a little something a little crazy in this moment, it's to make you laugh. Not malicious. No, I'm not trying to hurt nobody's feelings. That's the thing. I feel like comedians, we should get a pass. I feel like both of my grandfathers was racist,
Starting point is 01:07:05 being honest. Of course they did. Everybody's grandparents were racist. Everybody's grandparents was racist. And they was racist against me, which was real. I was going to my black grandfather. He was hot as silverware. Like, what?
Starting point is 01:07:23 Puerto Rican steel. Like, wait a minute, what? Then I go to my black side. Go to my black side. Same thing. The Puerto Rican side. Yeah, I go to my Puerto Rican side. They're like, hey, man, Coca-Cola. I was like, oh, shit. I'm going to fuck everybody's drink. Like, I was You can't win. You can't win. And it was
Starting point is 01:07:39 fucked up. It's because my sister, my older brother, and my little brother is all light-skinned. I'm the only Chaco that day. I'm the only one, so I get it all day. I get it all. I just say it. That made me who I am. It made
Starting point is 01:07:56 me actually be able to have... I feel like we have the United Nations of crews. We have Jewish people in our crew. We have Cuban people in our crew. We got Haitian people in our crew. We have Jewish people on our crew. We have Cuban people on our crew. We got Haitian people on our crew. We got Russian people
Starting point is 01:08:07 on our crew. Peruvians. Peruvian people on our crew. We fly them in for Perugians of our blunts. And he rolled them very nicely, by the way. There should be a camera
Starting point is 01:08:16 because the roll is sweet. Yeah, and he wrestled with camels on Saturday. And he went to lava. He came in on a lava. Yeah, but it's a different time. I feel sorry for this generation. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:08:27 It's tough skin. They're growing up soft. I'm going to give you a perfect example. One of my, rest in peace, one of my really good friends, it was a guy named Freddy Antamate. And Freddy was brown as me, Puerto Rican, right? And like you, he was mixed, but it was so funny. So Freddy was like, yo, B, man, this shit crazy. You know I'm Puerto Rican, right? And like you, he was mixed, but it was so funny. So Freddie was like, yo, B, man, this shit crazy.
Starting point is 01:08:48 You know I'm Puerto Rican, 100%, 100%, you know, 100%. But I'm like the only chocolate motherfucker Puerto Rican and shit. You know, Puerto Ricans come in every motherfucking flavor. You know, some of my cousins, they think they white. They think they white. They Republicans and all that. Yeah, yeah, Republicans and all that. So the funny joke
Starting point is 01:09:08 that he used to say to me was so funny. He was like, yo, B, every time I go to my little cookhouse and hang with my paella and doing my shit, they always be like, yo, who this nigga in here? Because he was the only chocolate Puerto Rican. Everybody was like medium, a little warm,
Starting point is 01:09:27 you know what I'm saying? But Freddie was brown as me, 1,000% Puerto Rican. And he sounded like you. He was going through it. I sent Tito Trinidad, goddammit. He be going through it. Okay, shout out to Freddie. Friday?
Starting point is 01:09:44 Friday or next Friday? First Friday. First Friday. First Friday, guaranteed money. out to Freddie. Friday? No, you... Friday or next Friday? First Friday. First Friday. First Friday, guaranteed money. Nothing to talk about. Go with the first one. Okay. Because I know you from jurors.
Starting point is 01:09:52 So, Redman or Method Man? I'm going with Redman. I got you now. Now, let's drink. Oh, let's drink. All right. I respect that. Fuck it, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:10:01 I respect that because Method is my man, too. Mm-hmm. Oh, man. Can I explain my why? Yeah, please, please. All right, so Redman represents Jersey all day, every day to the fullest. It's him and Mef, they're a team. So I wanted to drink for both of them. First and foremost, Jersey, Redman, Gully, you know what I'm saying? Doing the same.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Meth, Wu-Tang, my guy. So I had to drink for both of them. I just wanted to drink anyway. And by the way, when I Googled you, it said you was from East Orange? No, I'm from Newark. Newark, okay. I know where East Orange is. I'm from Newark. So the next one's a good one for you. And I lived in West Orange. You lived in West Orange?
Starting point is 01:10:44 Yeah, but this is after I blew up, though. Oh, yeah, yeah. I was getting ready to say it. Not when I was struggling. You ain't blew up. He's from Passaic. He's from Passaic. Yeah, West Orange is nice.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Passaic, what's up? All right. Yeah. They got a lot of Puerto Rican chicks in Passaic. He's Colombian. He got the Colombian look. No, I'm going to tell you. In Jersey, we got pockets.
Starting point is 01:11:02 So in Jersey, if you go to Clifton and you go to like Passaic. The Cuban. I got family there. Cubans are in a lot of unions. Union City. Bourbon Street, whatever. Union City. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Union City. Union City. Yep. That's where the Cubans are. Okay. Okay. Let's go. Naughty by nature or laws of the underground?
Starting point is 01:11:22 That's Jersey all day. Jersey. Get your shot ready. Yep. Get your shot ready? Yep. Get your shot ready. Yes! Yeah. Let's get the shot ready.
Starting point is 01:11:28 He got it. No, I need my shot. I got it. We get lazy over here, man. You trying to flat lead me? Can you run? Lords of the Underground, I'm so happy you shouted them out, man. We had them on the show.
Starting point is 01:11:39 We had them on the show. Thank you. Thank you, sis. Lord. And Naughty by Nature. Lord and Naughty. I just saw Trench last week. Shout out to the... Give me some effing. Give me some. sis. Lord. Hands out, Ibn Aijan. Lord and Lordy, I just saw Trench last week. Shout out to the judge.
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Starting point is 01:16:13 What's up? Any given Sunday or how to be a player? I think I know the answer. How to be a player. Yeah. Do you really know how to let it down? Because I know we spoke on that earlier. But I kid the answer. How to be a player. Yeah. Do you really know how to let this down? Because I know we spoke on that earlier. But I kid you not.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Dream Champs just kind of saved me out of this dumb shit where people would just say my name and say, what, what? That purgatory that you were in. Yeah, I used to hate that. I used to hate it.
Starting point is 01:16:40 I was like, what, what? You know I did more than what, what. Yeah, I did more than what, what. Stop playing. You did what, what, Stop playing Don't forget the other what what So Did it really change your life To that No I'm going to be honest with you
Starting point is 01:16:59 Okay how to be a player Let's go back into The scope of Bill Bellamy, right? Okay. You got to understand, so I got pop in 91. I don't know where you was in 91. You was in jail. I was in high school.
Starting point is 01:17:17 So 91, I did Def Comedy Jam, had one of the dopest sets. With the yellow on? No, no, no. I did Def Comedy Jam, had one of the dopest sets. I was the- With the yellow on? No, no, no. Let me see. The first one, first one I had on the black. The black, okay. I remember.
Starting point is 01:17:31 So check it out, right? So I was the first comedian to premiere on Def Comedy Jam. Wow. In 91. Okay, premiere. What does that mean? That means like when that show premiered, every trailer that you saw I was in, it was uncanny. So like when I taped my set, I closed.
Starting point is 01:17:53 But my set was so strong that they put me first in the order. And did you know how big the show was going to become? Nobody knew. Okay. Nobody knew, right? I got to ask you one question before you proceed on. We're going to fuck up your whole answer. Before you proceed on, was that S-Girl in your hair?
Starting point is 01:18:10 It was S-Girl. It was S-Girl? Love it. Shout out to S-Girl. So real quick. So 91. Let's take a shot for the S-Girl. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Shout out. Let's take a shot for the S-Girl. I ain't going to lie. By the way This is man I was like Well you know Everybody had the hot top
Starting point is 01:18:29 I had an ass girl too Fuck my shit up But um But I was always wondering Like dude Is this nigga Indian Or something Niggas thought I was Dominican
Starting point is 01:18:37 No no I know Dominican So I knew you wasn't Dominican So I knew you wasn't Dominican But I was like This nigga might be Indian Alright but let me finish this Alright so real quick So I'm going to give Dominican. So, I knew you wasn't Dominican, but I was like, this nigga might be Indian. All right,
Starting point is 01:18:46 but let me finish this. All right, so real quick, so I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you before we get to the how to be a player. So you got to understand.
Starting point is 01:18:51 By the way, sweetheart, you got to start pouring them shots a little less. Okay, so real quick. So 91,
Starting point is 01:18:57 I premiere on Def Comedy Jam. I premiere on Def Comedy Jam. I come out explosive. Boom. No one knows my name yet,
Starting point is 01:19:08 but they know my set and they know what I look like, right? So going into 92, I get MTV. So it was almost like I shot out of canon because I always believe God's timing is flawless. Sorry, but did Def Comedy Jam have anything to do with your MTV gig getting that? No, I don't even know how shit happened, bro. I'm in New York.
Starting point is 01:19:30 That's honest. I'll be honest with you. I do Def Comedy Jam. I kill that shit. Hungry young comedian. I get an audition to be a VJ. Don't know what the fuck. I don't even have cable, bro. I don't have
Starting point is 01:19:46 cable. I don't have cable. You're just going looking for work. Stop playing with me. MTV was in certain neighborhoods back in the 90s. You had to be in the suburbs. I was in the hood, bro. Stop playing with me. I didn't even have MTV. I didn't even know
Starting point is 01:20:02 what the fuck it was. Cut to I get an audition. Shout out to Tracy Jordan. Tracy Jordan was like, yo, you're a funny ass comedian. Do you like music? I was like, yeah. She was like, well, I got an idea for you. I got a show.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Right now it's called Fade to Black. But if we're going to change it to MTV Jams, you would be perfect to be the host of a show. I want you to come in, blah, blah, blah. I'm speeding this story up. Go in, audition. Next thing you know, I'm on MTV. When I first got on Def Comedy Jam, nobody knew my name. Everybody used to say,
Starting point is 01:20:35 yo, you my man. Um, um, shit. Ralph Bellamy? They never knew my name. When I got on MTV, people was like, yo, that's Bill Bellamy. Because you remember back in the day, I used to be like, yo, this is Bill Bellamy.
Starting point is 01:20:55 MTV Jams always said my name. Bill Bellamy, Bill Bellamy. Cool, right? I'm bringing you full story to how to be a player. Are you telling a story, brother? So, cut to, I get on MTV. This is when MTV is shifting to playing our music. Do you understand?
Starting point is 01:21:12 Hey, ho. Hey, so you got to understand, I'm in Jersey. I'm seeing Naughty by Nature before they was Naughty by Nature. Latifah before she was Queen Latifah. Redman before Apache. Cats don't even know who Apache is. We know who Apache is. We hip hop over there.
Starting point is 01:21:31 You know. So what I'm saying is, so I get an opportunity out of nowhere to be on broadcast television to promote hip hop and R&B. That was my lane. Right. It had never happened before. So cut to, I'm like, oh, shit. You know they wasn't fucking
Starting point is 01:21:51 with nobody black at MTV until I got there. It was just Michael Jackson. Right, right. So no, wait. It was Yo! MTV Raps. And it was like, but they had no, like, mixture show that could bring the bridge. I was the bridge.
Starting point is 01:22:11 So, when I came to MTV. First TRL. Boom. Yeah. So, when I came to MTV, it was just the timing of it. It was, this is no ego. I don't want nobody to take this the wrong way. I just got lucky, right?
Starting point is 01:22:22 Came in. So, it was a bridge between, because Yo MTV was here. And then they say, yo, we don't want to just do got lucky, right? Came in. So there's a bridge between because Yo MTV was here and then they say, yo, we don't want to just do like the underground hip hop. We want to do pop culture hip hop. So here come Naughty. Here come Redman. Here come Method. Here come the Woo.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Here come Jade. Here come SWV. So all of a sudden, all of a sudden, it's all this. And it's the only way to blow up. We had no internet. If you was an artist in 91, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, if you didn't do MTV, you
Starting point is 01:22:54 can't go platinum. There's no way. Those were the gates of the gatekeepers. That was the gate gate. Okay, cut to. Then I hit how to be a player. I want to circle back to you. So what happened with how to be a player. I want to circle back to you. So what happened with how to be a player was how to be a player was like a building step. And I'm going to give Russell Simmons his flowers
Starting point is 01:23:14 because Russell was like, you're the culture. You're cool. Motherfuckers love you. I think, like, I swear to God, like, Russell, Russell, it was Russell Simmons that gave me that opportunity. So Russell was like, yo, I'm going to do this movie with you. I think you encompass the right energy to make this movie
Starting point is 01:23:45 work. I didn't even know if it was going to be real, bro. You got to understand, I'm brand new to the game. You know, I didn't know Nori. I didn't know you. I was like eyes wide open, sort of like, oh my god,
Starting point is 01:24:02 I'm in the game now. Like, you know, I wasn't outside the game on the bench beat. Like, alright, my God, I'm in the game now. Like, you know, I was outside the game on the bench, B. Like, all right, I'm going to give you a perfect circle. This is the liquor talking. Let me drink some water. Drink some liquor. How about half a shot? Take a half a shot.
Starting point is 01:24:16 I'm going to give you a legendary story. I'm going to give you a legendary story. What was the initial question? Oh, I didn't drink it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was the initial question? You were circling back to Ho? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was the initial question? You were circling back to... How to be a player?
Starting point is 01:24:28 Yeah. How to be a player. All right. But you got to drink, sir. Okay. Why y'all keeping count? It's called drink chaps. I forgot.
Starting point is 01:24:37 All right. Let's hear a story, by the way. And we into it. I'll give you, I'll give you, I'll give you, I'll give you like a real story. Okay. So. It's... I'll give you like a real story. Okay. So, it's, I'm going to go backwards to go for it.
Starting point is 01:24:51 So, I was at, you know, I don't know where you was in 91 or 92. The Def Jam Christmas parties was crazy. Okay. I remember the Christmas parties. We were viral about it. Poquito. Okay.
Starting point is 01:25:04 Nori, where was you in 91, 92? Depending on when Juice came out, I probably was in jail again. Why you always in jail, Nori? No, no, this was back then. We was youngins. Yeah, that's when I was younger. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:17 Okay, you in jail. I'm in high school. I'm just starting to get my turntables. You're trying to get your turntables. He's in jail. Yeah, yeah. All right, so 91, 92, Def Jam Parties was crazy. Yes.
Starting point is 01:25:28 So wintertime, super cold in New York, right? And I believe this is the moment that changed my life. I'm going to tell you why. So I'm in a line. I'm not famous. I am a hot, young comic, tri-state. are. So I'm in a line. I'm not famous. I am a hot young comic tri-state. I'm local hot.
Starting point is 01:25:50 Like I ain't worldwide. Ain't no Instagram. New York, New Jersey, Connecticut. That's it. I ain't hot nowhere else. Not even in Philly. I ain't even get to Philly. I had a drop in Philly, but I ain't hot yet. Maybe South Street. Only rappers and artists can know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:26:06 Like when you hot in a little area. I'm bubbling. I'm fucking smoking. Every time I do a set somewhere in New York or Queens, Brooklyn, Jersey, Connecticut, I kill. I'm feeling myself, but I'm not. I'm local. Cool. So I go to the Def Jam party.
Starting point is 01:26:26 It's colder than a motherfucker, and I get to the door. I will never forget this as long as I live. So I get to the door, and I forget who I was with, and they say, yo, we done. We at capacity. I said, oh
Starting point is 01:26:41 shit, because I've been outside freezing with my boys and them. And we drove from Jersey to come to New York to go to Def Jam party. They depending on you to get them in. They can't get in. They have zero. But you, you got it. But I'm hot local. OK, OK, OK.
Starting point is 01:26:56 I get to the door, big ass security dude. You know, they always dressing all black. Did he have braids? I feel like he had braids. Yeah, he had braids. He had braids. So my man was like, nah, B, we had capacity.
Starting point is 01:27:08 And he put his hand on my chest. He said, we had capacity. No more people can get in. And I'm fucked up. Literally at the door, here come LL Cool J. Here come Mary.
Starting point is 01:27:23 Here come Jay-Z. I noticed how you didn't call him Todd then. No. Because you didn't know him as Todd. Here come Jay-Z. I noticed how you didn't call him Todd then. No. Because you didn't know him as Todd. I didn't know him. I like how you put your story together. Continue. I'm catching on to the Pacific.
Starting point is 01:27:32 So I'm like, yo, that go LL Cool J. He went in. Damn. I didn't know her at the time, but that was Mary J. Blige. She went in I said god damn and they go Jay Z
Starting point is 01:27:48 and I didn't know he was Jay Z but he went in right okay cut to I said oh my god I was so burnt
Starting point is 01:27:56 I was bro only cats that came out the streets know what I'm talking about I was so embarrassed I was so fucking burnt, right? Right.
Starting point is 01:28:06 That I was this close to not being able to get in. I said, there will never be another motherfucking day in my life that people don't know who I am. That's who made Bill Bellamy. That moment, right? That pain of embarrassment, the pain of watching another motherfucker get past me. I feel like you're going through the pain right now.
Starting point is 01:28:31 I'm having the herb god moment. We let you in. We give you your phone. No, I'm being honest. That's what made Bill Bellamy. Because it was like in that moment, I never shared this with anybody before. In that moment, it made me go back to the streets with it.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Like, yo, I got to get better. I got to be more dominant. I got to get better. And I got to go to work because whatever I'm doing ain't enough. Ain't nothing wrong with getting hurt. This is the thing about cats. They don't know. Cats always want the pie without the work.
Starting point is 01:29:06 Sometime you got to get smacked in the fucking face. Sometime you got to go through an adversity to get to the prize. That was the battery in your back. Yo, to the hustle. I'm a street cat. I'm dressed up.
Starting point is 01:29:22 I'm a street cat. I'm being honest. That was such a wonderful moment in my life. Because cats don't know what it takes to be great. Do you think Michael Jordan won every game? Did you know Michael Jordan didn't even
Starting point is 01:29:37 make the team? He went through some shit and got to be Michael Jordan. Everybody need a setback to get back. In that moment, it made me realize that I got to go deeper, I got to hustle harder,
Starting point is 01:29:54 and I got to grind better so that I will never feel that again. That's how all of a sudden you saw me, boom, boom, boom, because I was like, I'll never let my light shut off again. Let's make that noise. Let's make that noise.
Starting point is 01:30:09 That was a beautiful story, man. That was a beautiful story. I had to stop you. That was a beautiful story. No, Nori. That was beautiful, man. Nori, I'm going to give you your flowers. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Yeah, please, please. Let's take it with you. You want your flowers? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Later, later. Let's see what you can do. He's trying to get me drunk. Yeah, yeah, yes, I am.
Starting point is 01:30:24 I'm drinking water. We're celebrating you. What is the next one? Come on. Man, you got your. Later, later. Let's see what you can get. He's trying to get me drunk. Yeah, yes, I am. I'm drinking water. We're celebrating you. What is the next one? Come on. Man, you got your phone open, man. I'm drinking water. Nobody on they staff drink water. Nope.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Yeah, you do. Ready? It's again. Oh, okay. Cam or mace? Ooh. You feel like a Harlem nigga even though I know you from Newark. But you got on a pink shirt.
Starting point is 01:30:44 Cam or Mase Take a shot Take a shot You're not driving You're not driving You got to Establish this already I got to take a drink
Starting point is 01:30:56 Yeah take a drink Cause Cam and Mase They my boys I can't fuck And they should do an album together At this point They should They should
Starting point is 01:31:03 Bingo Cam and Mase Is nowhere They should do an album together at this point. They should. They should. Bingo. Cam and Mase. It's nowhere. I got it. I got it. That's even money. But let me just, before we finish Quick Time with Slime.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Which we never will. Yeah. It's just a long-lasting game. This game will last until tomorrow. Now, this is my personal question. This is not even the producer's question. This has nothing to the producer's question This has nothing to do with it Okay go ahead It's very apparent
Starting point is 01:31:32 That you Back in the days Was a frequent finger popper A frequent He said he had a He had frequent flying miles on finger popping. Finger popping? On finger popping.
Starting point is 01:31:48 Card membership? You know. Okay. Are you married now? Yes. Okay, whoa. Be careful then. All right.
Starting point is 01:31:56 This is all in the past. Scale down. Scale down. This is in the past. Back then, in the 90s. No Instagram, no. No Instagram? No Instagram. So right now, we call people snipers, right?
Starting point is 01:32:11 They see something, they get it, snipe it down. Right now, French Montana. Yeah. Okay, okay. Right now, French Montana. I'm married,
Starting point is 01:32:21 so I'm an observer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're at the game. Yeah, I'm at the game, but I be watching the game, though. I ain't going to lie, I watch it every Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. I be looking on Tuesday. I know there's no football on Tuesday, but I still be watching the sniper games, right? All right, go ahead, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:32:37 I'm with you. Boy, your ass, motherfucker. Def Comedy Jam sniper. Okay. How was, like, after you did Def Comedy Jam, was your finger popping everything in Newark? No, no, no, no, no. I'm outside of Newark.
Starting point is 01:32:52 What was it? What was it? Nah, the movie had to have done it. What was your biggest finger popping error? For me? Yeah, for you. MTV. MTV.
Starting point is 01:33:01 The Beach House? The Beach House. Because you had your international finger. Let me, let me Let me Why you gotta make it nasty? You gotta do this? Why you doing all that? Because I'm not doing this Nasty Nasty
Starting point is 01:33:15 Nory Nory You so nasty Nory Bring it to your room Tip it to your voice So let me Let me explain the game to you Okay So nasty. Noise. Bring it to your room temperature, boys. So let me explain the game to you.
Starting point is 01:33:28 Okay. So when my book, Top Billing, come out April 2023. Let's make some noise for that. Top Billing. You know I'm an author, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. So real quick, I'm going to take y'all back. Let's pick a 90. Let's pick a 90.
Starting point is 01:33:46 Let's pick a 90. Let's pick a 92, 93. You was in jail. Okay, so... So, 92, 93. Wu-Tang came out?
Starting point is 01:34:04 No, Wu-Tang's a little bit Not yet 94 94 94 What's 91 92 Come on Google
Starting point is 01:34:11 92 92 What's out What's out at this time Deathly Pride Lords of the Underground Redman Redman
Starting point is 01:34:18 Nice and Smooth Gangstar I ran out of Phillies Is that Who? Mr. Lee No The thing I don't have Philly. Is that? Who? Mr. Lee? No, no, no. The nigga don't have it started yet, bro.
Starting point is 01:34:28 The nigga don't have it started. No, 92. Let's go. I'm going to give you a gap. So let's go from 92 to 95. That's a nice. That's the golden era. It's a golden era in hip hop, right?
Starting point is 01:34:42 No Instagram. No social media. You got to understand understand for the young cats that's under right now that's like uh under 30 they will never live the life we live right okay so hip-hop was like in the basement so let's let's let's let's out, because no one can tell it like me. At this moment in my life, Cash wasn't embracing hip hop all the way. No. You had Run DMC.
Starting point is 01:35:16 Boom. Dope. You had quintessential R&B groups. You had quintessential like rock bands. Who was that? Tevin Campbell and shit like that? Wait, Tevin Campbell was...
Starting point is 01:35:31 Wait, no, no. You're going to throw me off. Yeah, don't throw me off. All right, let's get it. Let's keep it simple. Hip hop, let me tell you why I love hip hop.
Starting point is 01:35:40 Hip hop was like underestimated its whole life. It's almost like a boxer that nobody think could ever be the champ, like Mike Tyson. Let's be, hip-hop is Mike Tyson. Came out the gutter, came out the mud, right? He ain't never going to be no champion. He ain't never going to be the best.
Starting point is 01:36:02 That's what hip- hop was at that time. Hip hop was like Mike Tyson grinding in the gym, punching, slipping, slipping, finding out they left. Right. Boom, boom, boom. Right. Hip hop was like a true boxer that nobody expected to be a champion right here is how i kind of like rode the back of hip-hop so i'm outside of hip-hop not knowing that hip-hop was stuck in the basement because it's hip-hop needed exposure right so here come bill Bellamy out of a left lane hip hoppers over here and we came to like a crossroads together right?
Starting point is 01:36:51 Here's the beauty of God so white media MTV decided to make a choice to say let's take a chance on hip hop hip hop came out the basement like and like nobody knew the power of hip-hop so what is what who is the person that's going to be the voice at the time when hip-hop is coming out the basement?
Starting point is 01:37:28 They chose me. God damn it. God damn it. I didn't even know I was going to get that assignment. I was another guy coming in. But God's timing is flawless, right? So I come out of nowhere. I'm the microphone for hip-hop.
Starting point is 01:37:43 Hip-hop comes out the basement. I'm the microphone for hip hop. Hip hop comes out the basement. We meet together and we go together. This was ninety one, two, three, four, five, six. It's never happened before. It's documented on Dream Champs. My legacy. Let me tell you why. Because no one ever knew the importance of what Bill Bellamy was on MTV. So I didn't know. So I'm coming up
Starting point is 01:38:12 Whitney Houston, Bobby Brown, Jade, SWV, Boyz II Men, Naughty by Nature, Redman, motherfucking Coolio. Right.
Starting point is 01:38:30 All these West Coast, Ice Cube, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, all of us was trying to come up. I knew Snoop Dogg when he was 19, bro. 19. The first time I went to Snoop Dogg's house, he was 19 bro 19 the first time i went to snoop dog's house he was holding his son do you understand when you read my book you're gonna understand like i don't even know how it happened like i was like oh my god all my life i always said oh my god oh my god i'm meeting dr dre i mean ice cube i was the bridge between the West Coast and the East Coast. Because you lived in L.A., but you was not. No, I lived here, but I went to L.A. to grab the artists to bring them in at the time.
Starting point is 01:39:16 So hip-hop, to me, is like a fighter that was training in a dirty, grungy gym, right? It wasn't a famous gym. It was like a grimy gym for cats that, like, boxing in their Timberlands. 50 boxing gyms. But they could fight. That's what I love about hip hop. Who knew 25 years later, 30 years later, that hip hop is the culture.
Starting point is 01:39:50 It is. Let me ask you something though. Now looking back though, in that time period that you started with MTV, do you think, because you said that they gave a chance, do you think, because you said that they gave a chance, do you think they underestimated or underappreciated what hip-hop could and was doing? Because in the 80s already, the 80s generation of hip-hop was already doing arena and stadium
Starting point is 01:40:15 tours. Yeah, Motley Crue and them was out there. No, no, not Motley Crue. I'm talking about hip-hop. Hip-hop. I'm back. I'm talking about Run DMC. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:23 They were already doing stadium and arenas. Facts. So to say that in the 90s, you know, something, because it's always been said MTV was kind of boxing out hip hop. They was boxing it out for a second. I'll be honest. They was because like MTV was conservative. Right. They didn't know that hip-hop would sell.
Starting point is 01:40:48 So, I don't know. Like, at that time, I didn't know, like... Like Joe Biden before he picked Kamala. Right. That's an interesting reference. But I'm just being honest. Like, at that time, because I want, I know this is going to live on, like, social media forever. And there's young people that don't know where we came from.
Starting point is 01:41:13 Right. They don't know the history. So I want to give them, like, the history of the game. So there was a moment in life that hip hop wasn't cool. Right. Wow. Like, hip hop wasn't culture. They don't know that like they don't know when uh we had um
Starting point is 01:41:30 back in the day we had carl canai we had sean john we had uh niche like it's certain. Mr. Lee. Okay. Y'all, we resonating on a real level right now. Like, there's certain parts of the culture that don't know the elevation where we are now. Like, so they don't know the Aniche. Right. Right?
Starting point is 01:42:03 They don't know Fat Farm, like, Russell Simmons. Early Echo with the mixtapes. Echo! Right. Come on, man. Remember Damage? Damage. Damage.
Starting point is 01:42:11 Let's go back. Paco. I know all these bands. RP-55, Esco, Willie Esco. Paco, I know. Esco. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Mecca. Yeah, remember Mecca.
Starting point is 01:42:19 Come on, man. Like, Cars. Yeah, you got your ass. Stop playing. You know you watch Travel Fox. And you're like, listen. Your face says Travel Fox on your face. You had a Jamaican belt knowing you Asian.
Starting point is 01:42:33 I can tell. I can tell. That was very Asian of him. But no, look. So let's educate cats while we drink it, right? So they don't know how important hip hop is to our culture, right? So they don't know how important hip-hop is to our culture, right? But they don't know the steps.
Starting point is 01:42:50 So some cats is jumping on the train right here, but we are the pioneers. We're like, so I had my contribution this way. Nori, boom. FM, boom. We know. That's why we the same. Because we know.
Starting point is 01:43:07 We watched it evolve, right? Here's the thing. And I'm going to say this on Dream Champs. Hip hop is the voice of everything. Yep. It went from the basement situation that people try to keep us low to being the parameter for what's cool the parameter for what's fly fashion we dominate right right drink champs dominate the game bro you stop playing with me i think it's hip-hop is is taking over so much that you don't even notice it.
Starting point is 01:43:48 You don't even know. You taking it for granted. Like, you watching CNN and they talking about you. They got beef. They got beef. They using slang. They stealing our shit. They using hip-hop slang.
Starting point is 01:43:56 And it's, like, normal now. That's what I'm trying to say. It's permeated everything. Do you know how many times motherfuckers said? It's permeated? Yeah, it's permeated. He's educated. No, bro.
Starting point is 01:44:07 I was a 90s hip-hop band. Lyricism. We grew up on lyricism. I had to look it up. Listen to this. Because you're going to relate to this. Do you know how many motherfuckers... Somebody car fucked up.
Starting point is 01:44:19 That's Illuminati out there. That's Illuminati trying to cover that. I'm going to give you some real shit. You know how many cats say booty call don't know where it came from? But you know what?
Starting point is 01:44:32 That's actually something to even be proud of. That's how booty is. Yo, booty call is a booty call is a phrase that people say like because it's normal. They think it's like
Starting point is 01:44:43 something that they don't know it came from me. Right. It came from something I wrote on a piece of paper. That's incredible. That I did at. You added to the vernacular of the English language. That I said at the Uptown Comedy Club that got me on Def Jam.
Starting point is 01:44:59 Period. True story. We got to make noise for that. Come on. How long you roll your weed? Goddamn. He falls asleep. So, are you the owner of the actual movie Booty Club? Are you a...
Starting point is 01:45:21 Booty Club? No, Booty Car. Booty Car. You know what I mean? It's a Booty Club now? I'm sorry. You got to do a Booty Club for the Booty Car. No you a booty club? No, booty car. Booty car. You know what I mean? It's a booty club now? I'm sorry. You got to do a booty club for the booty car. No. Trick Daddy runs that.
Starting point is 01:45:29 No, so Booty Car became a movie. And so here's the interesting thing about Booty Car that people don't know. So when the movie came up, I was offered the movie first. And so when I read the script, I was kind of like, I don't know if I want to do that right now. I chose to do Love Jones. Because the thing about it was, and I don't know if it was a good, I think it was a good choice. But at the time, why I didn't do Booty Call and Jamie did it and Tommy Davidson and Vivica was I wanted to be considered a real actor. Wow.
Starting point is 01:46:19 At that time. So, I was like, oh, shit, if I do Booty Call, I'm going to be in the same vein that people see. Like typecasted. Yeah, like I'm almost like the same guy. So I said, I'm going to do something different. I'm going to do Love Jones because I can't be comical and silly. I want to be serious. Right. silly. I want to be serious. So I jumped on Love Jones with Ted Witcher,
Starting point is 01:46:48 Lorenz Tate, Nia Long, Isaiah Washington. The cast was crazy. Because I felt like those cats would make me a better actor. And that's the only reason I did that.
Starting point is 01:47:03 But in hip-hop, right? That's like me. Right? I didn't make up the word slime exactly, right? But I made it famous in hip hop. I got on a 2001 album, Capone and
Starting point is 01:47:19 Noriega, something like that, and I kept saying slime. But now all these other people use the word slime, right? Use the word slime. I'm not bitter. I'm so glad I'm not bitter. But had I had nothing going on in my life, I would have been the most bitter witness.
Starting point is 01:47:35 Motherfucker. You being a bar. Yes, I would have been. Tight. Yes. So was there ever a time where you just thought about it? It was like, yo, man, like they used my word that I. Could you have trademarked it?
Starting point is 01:47:46 I didn't know. Yeah, I didn't know. I should have. I mean, who would have known at that time? I didn't know you could trademark it. Bro, you got to understand, I'm from Newark, New Jersey, bro. Stop playing. Bro, bro, like...
Starting point is 01:48:00 I used to hang out on Clinton Avenue. Coming out the mud Like You gotta understand In my life When you read my book Top Billing Like I had to make choices Cause most of my cats Was moving weight
Starting point is 01:48:15 In my neighborhood I'll be completely honest Like but But they was missing For like three or four summers So I was like I don't know if I wanna be missing Right
Starting point is 01:48:24 God damn You seen Rafi? You ain't seen Rafi? for like three or four summers. So I was like, I don't know if I want to be missing. Right. God damn. You seen Rafiq? You ain't seen Rafiq? Rafiq gone. God damn. By the way, Muslim brother. Big up.
Starting point is 01:48:34 You know, you know. So, so like, I was always like, the thing, the thing about the street game to me that was like, it was sexy on certain levels because you could see certain cats look like they was winning and they was moving and stuff. But it always came with like a expiration date. I never seen a cat. The only cat that I know, like, right now, off the top of my head, doing shots with y'all, that came out the street game and became everything they needed to be was Jay-Z. How many Jay-Z's you know?
Starting point is 01:49:14 None. Right. And niggas don't even know Jay-Z. Right. But what I'm saying is, but what you see what I'm saying, like Jigga to me was very similar to my life, right? Like I was around all this shit. I was all around things that was good and bad, right? And I just was like, I just don't know if I can wear an expiration date on what I want to do.
Starting point is 01:49:42 So I was like trying to figure out how to make money and figure out like what's my way out. How could I take care of my family, my mom, my dad, my sisters, and my brothers or whatever, right? And so like when I started, like I always did it, I used to say this to my friends, y'all slinging dope,
Starting point is 01:49:59 I'm slinging jokes. This joke money ain't got no limits, ain't got no ceilings. Ain't no way I'm going to jail for telling jokes. So I hustled jokes. This joke money ain't got no limits. Ain't got no ceilings. Ain't no way I'm going to jail for telling jokes. So I hustle jokes. This is the funny shit about me. I'm like a street dude that tell jokes. And when I was
Starting point is 01:50:16 in the clubs back in the day with all the hustlers and all the dudes that was in the street game, I was telling jokes for them because I knew they life. So I that was in the street game, I was telling jokes for them because I knew they life. So I got famous on the street first. That's the thing that people don't know about Bill Melvin. They seen a colorful like, oh, my God, he's on MTV, spring break.
Starting point is 01:50:35 They don't know I was slinging jokes for street cats that had more money than me, fur coats at the shows. These motherfuckers had more bottles than y'all. They was street cats. Tough. They gave zero fucks about me when I got on MTV. I promise you, like, I'll never forget. Nobody in here know about the Zoo Crew.
Starting point is 01:50:59 They was at my shows, like, back in the early... And they was real cats. Like, not really chuckle-chuckles. They wanted real comedy from real situations that they could relate to. So I was doing comedy for them. I would go to Manhattan proper in Queens and do street jokes, but I didn't look like a street cat. So the funny shit, they'd be like, yo, I'm confused. But after I do my jokes, cats would be like,
Starting point is 01:51:30 yo, my man, where you from? Where you from, man? Yo, you talk that shit. I was like, yeah. You underestimated me because I came in here kind of clean. You don't know my life. So when I start talking that real shit, cats go crazy, right? So I always do
Starting point is 01:51:48 my shit for the streets. Period. Period. How to be a player. Love Jones. All the choices I made in my career because I was like, I never want to be too commercial because sometimes you get
Starting point is 01:52:03 commercial make you cupcaked out and you and you and you you like cats stop relating to you because they feel like you say it say it loud you lose yourself so i always in my entire career, have wanted to represent hip-hop, represent the black male, represent hustlers. Like cats that hustle, that want to be about something. I always try to keep my track record clean. I never want to try to get caught up in no grimy shit. And be be inspiration. So if you,
Starting point is 01:52:46 if you look at my career, bro, everything about my career has been chess moves. You feel that in your spirit? Yeah, I feel it. I forgot we still don't quick time a slime. No,
Starting point is 01:53:03 we're not done. No, we're not done. No, we not done. We not even close. God damn! We a little close. Yeah, a little close. Okay.
Starting point is 01:53:10 You ready? Yeah. We gonna keep it going? Yup. Mobb Deep or M.O.P.? I got my shot ready. Those are the two hardest mobbies out there. Mobb Deep.
Starting point is 01:53:22 Bro, I'm going Mobb Deep, B. Stop playing with me. Okay. I know I love them both, but God damn it, Mobb Deep! Okay. T, we good? I got the next one. Survival of the fearless.
Starting point is 01:53:38 Motherfucker. Go ahead. Go ahead. N.W.A. or Wu-Tang Clan? Is your shot ready? That's a shot right there. That's a shot. In my opinion, that's a shot. I know there's no way you can't.
Starting point is 01:53:49 Not like it's a wedding. Even money. Even money. Yo. Oof. Oh, next one's a good one. Who write these motherfucking questions? You ready?
Starting point is 01:53:59 Good. Ready? In Living Color or Mad TV? In Living Color. I know what I mean. Yeah. New Jersey Drive or Who's the Man? That's a good one.
Starting point is 01:54:10 Anybody? You're going to go Jersey. Oh, that's right. Which one? I was in Who's the Man, but New Jersey. New Jersey Drive is dope. New Jersey Drive made me want to steal a car. Such a dope movie.
Starting point is 01:54:23 It was such a gutter movie. It was a good movie. I fucking love it. I still don't cause it's dope until I realize, what the fuck am I doing? But Who's the Man on some hip-hop shit was so classic. Classic. Classic. See all the artists.
Starting point is 01:54:37 I want to make Dream Champs a movie over like that. It has to be like Who's the Man. Because it's like every, there was no extra. No. There was not one extra in Who's the Man. Can I tell you a funny story about Who's the Man? Let's go. We love your stories.
Starting point is 01:54:47 All right, real quick. Where's the camera? Where's my camera? Right there. I'm going to tell you a true story about Who's the Man. You know, Who's the Man might have the most hip-hop cameos ever. I believe it, yeah. It might be top five most hip-hop cameos ever.
Starting point is 01:55:03 It was a mixtape movie. It was a mixtape movie. Boom. Killed it. You might want It was a mixtape movie Grand It was a mixtape Boom Killed it You might want to Copyright that Mixtape movie I like that
Starting point is 01:55:10 The first person I ever hugged That had a Bulletproof vest on Was Tupac Oh yeah yeah Tupac Alright cool
Starting point is 01:55:17 So we know We up in the Bronx We filming in the Bronx Ed Lover Dr. Dre Will tell you this We shooting a motherfucking Barbershop scene.
Starting point is 01:55:26 And like when we shooting a barbershop across, it's vacant. It ain't shit. It ain't over there like a bomb. It's the burnt down Bronx at the time. Stop playing. It wasn't a boogie down at this time. Okay, I remember this. You know what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:55:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So real talk. Grand Poobah's on set. Bernie Mac, me. Out of nowhere, Tupac comes walking up. Does he have 40 belows on? You are right. Was you there? No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:55:51 I'm just trying to think of this. You with me? I'm trying to think of this. Is this Tupacalypse Tupac? This is Tupac. Yeah, this is Brenda got a baby Tupac. This is Brenda's got a baby Tupac and Pac is all New York at this moment. Let's keep it 100. Yes.
Starting point is 01:56:06 So Pac is like, yo, B. Me and Pac was like this, bro, I promise you. Pac is like, yo, B, nigga, you getting it? He comes up to me, he grabs me, I was like, oh, shit. What the fuck is going on, bro? I said, oh, shit. I was like, Pac, what's up? He was like, nigga, you know I got to stay on, bro. I said, oh, shit. I was like, Pop, what's up? He was like, nigga, you know I got to stay on my grind.
Starting point is 01:56:30 I say, yo, we doing a movie. He didn't get shot yet, right? No, he had not been shot. He had a bulletproof vest. He's the first person I ever felt. I don't know if you ever felt when a person got a bulletproof vest on. It's a different feeling because it's like steel. But I think the shit with the cops had already
Starting point is 01:56:48 happened at that time. Oh, okay. I think so. Was it the Atlanta shootout? Atlanta shootout, yeah. I think it might have happened. So when I hugged Pac like this, blah, blah, blah, and I feel it, and I'm like, yo, what's that? He was like, yo, B.I., shit, man, you
Starting point is 01:57:03 never know. And I was like, oh my God, Pac, what's that? He was like, yo, B.I., shit, man, you never know. And I was like, oh, my God, Pac, what are you doing? Literally, he had on a, like, a jersey. He wasn't wrong. Facts. He had on a jersey, like, but it was oversized, because that's how we was wearing our clothes back in the day, bigger. But he had the shit on, bro. I don't know if you ever, you never hug nobody that had a bulletproof vest on?
Starting point is 01:57:24 Too many times. Oh, you're right. shit on, bro. I don't know if you ever, you never hugged nobody that had a bulletproof vest on? Too many times. Oh, you're right. I figured, yo. Nori's like, everything, I was in jail. Yo, can I go to the bathroom? Yeah, just please, please, please. I was waiting for you.
Starting point is 01:57:38 Yeah, we are going to the bathroom. Let's go. Bathroom, yay! Hold on, did we take a shot first? Take a shot. Take a shot for the bathroom. Take a shot for the bathroom. Take a shot for the bathroom. Take a shot for the bathroom. Take a shot for the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:57:46 Take a shot for the bathroom. What, the bathroom? Shout out to the bathroom. It's the first time we ever took a shot for the bathroom. I'll be rolling. All right. Let me get one of the diamonds. I need to get off my phone.
Starting point is 01:57:59 From Brickle Boys. This is Brickle to Brickle Boys in the building, too. Hey! Yeah. Team Brickle in the building? That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:58:06 Okay. This one is good. This one is good. Go ahead. Jamie Foxx or Marlon Wayans? And have you... This is a two-part question. Go.
Starting point is 01:58:17 Have you spoke to Jamie Foxx since you said he got knocked out? Because I'm figuring he's kind of like a little mad at you. Still? No, I'm figuring He's kinda like A little mad at you Still? No I'm asking I haven't talked to Jamie Foxx Since I told the story Okay But
Starting point is 01:58:33 But he's still my guy I you know I love I gotta drink Because I love Marlon Okay And I love fucking Jamie Foxx That's the political way
Starting point is 01:58:43 To answer that question There it is That was the political And we need Jamie on the show Marlon's two times Alumni on the show Yeah I love my guys
Starting point is 01:58:51 That's what it is Marlon been on the show two times And for some reason Why Jamie ain't come on? I see Jamie all the time Open invite whenever he's ready That's my guy as well But the funniest shit is
Starting point is 01:59:04 Every time Marlon comes to the show, there's something always wrong with our AC. No, first of all, we did it in a warehouse one time. We did it in a warehouse. In the studio. And he just was looking around. He'd be like... We was at Murder Gardens.
Starting point is 01:59:16 Yeah, we was in a place called Murder Gardens. Why would your guests come to Murder Gardens? It's Drink Chef. Are you serious? We didn't have it figured out by then. This is when we were starting out. No, no, we wasn't just starting out. We went there very purposely.
Starting point is 01:59:31 Come to my show. It's at Murder Garden. Yo, it's our show and First 48 are the two shows that are really popular. Okay, all right. It might be a little tight. What I mean is we have it together. I mean, where we were at, we have it together I mean Where we were at We have it together
Starting point is 01:59:46 Like yo Hold on Let's get our Let's get our life together We're also in danger We're also in danger Yeah no It wasn't fun for us either
Starting point is 01:59:53 It wasn't fun for us either Alright Okay boom Alright Nori is searching Queen Latifah Or Lauryn Hill Queens
Starting point is 02:00:02 Queens Queens I mean Jersey Jersey Jersey Sorry sorry sorry They trying to set you up by the way Jersey, Jersey, Jersey
Starting point is 02:00:08 Ain't no motherfucking way I got a drink Okay, that's what I'm talking about Let me tell you Let me tell you why I got a drink Cause Latifah UNIT, why?
Starting point is 02:00:23 We need Latifah on the show. Equalizer. Yo, yo, yo. Lauryn Hill. Latifah. Flavor Unit. Fuji's. Flavor Unit.
Starting point is 02:00:35 Shaquem. Lauryn Hill. Prize. Wyclef. Let me tell you why I'm going to drink to y'all. This is flowers the other way. Right. Because two beautiful females that represent hip hop all day, every day, made their mark.
Starting point is 02:01:00 That's the utmost. And there's no way I can pick one over the other. I love them both. I am drinking to that. That was beautiful right there. That was beautiful right there. I am. They're icons.
Starting point is 02:01:10 They're icons. Yeah. Okay, I know this is off subject. That's like saying Sade and Anita Baker. This is off subject, but we got, and this has nothing to do
Starting point is 02:01:22 with this question right now. Why you be... Let me just say something. I'm scared of your phone, Noria Noria be reaching No, no, no This motherfucker been rolling weed for 18 hours He's a robot
Starting point is 02:01:35 Yeah, yeah Like, he don't even look at people He just be rolling This is what's dope about Dream Chance, right? You bring people into your world to have fun i am a fan of your show right and what i love about dream champs is that you give people a platform to be themselves they can't do this type of interview on jimmel and this and that, they come to dream champs to be real.
Starting point is 02:02:07 Hit that blunt. That's so fast. Don't hit that blunt. Don't hit that blunt. Next thing you know, he's going to be like, hit that heroin while you're at it. He's going to give me a Quaid look. No, no. I ain't going to love a part of Quaid look. Where were you at in the middle?
Starting point is 02:02:22 Let me spit some real shit real quick Because like This is why I did a podcast myself Because like Cats don't know Bill Bellamy Bill Bellamy Right
Starting point is 02:02:35 They're like Oh they know snapshots of Bill Bellamy Like they know snapshots of Drink Chaps Drink Chaps Right But what I like about Drink Chaps Before I even had a podcast was it was real for me. Because I'm a real hip hop lover street cat, right?
Starting point is 02:02:54 So case in point, I wanted something that represented me. So whether y'all never had me on your show Or ever not I love Drink Champs We've been trying to get him for six years Let's be clear He's being humble right now I never knew
Starting point is 02:03:18 That I would have my own podcast I wasn't even on that level Right I was watching you guys embrace the culture have the best like interviews and moments that capture people right and i was like yo that's so fucking fly because that's what was mtv was about back in the day. But we couldn't be as real as you guys. But you guys have no ceilings, no caps. But your finger pops a lot more than us.
Starting point is 02:03:52 I do. Yeah, yeah. That's true. But what I'm saying, drink champs needs their flowers. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:04:04 But you know what, Bill? Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Just, you know, I had so much fun Googling you, right? Because you have a luscious career. You've done, in my opinion, from the outside of this, looking in, that's the inside of that's looking out. You've done everything that any actor, comedian, a person that wants
Starting point is 02:04:30 to get in this game, you've accomplished it. But the thing about you is you're humble about it. The humility, right? And what's crazy is that has to be respected. That has to be honored.
Starting point is 02:04:43 It's because there's so many people, like, there's a person across the street right now that sold one bottle of Pepsi. And he's like, I'm the fucking man. No, you not remember the guy that's down the block that sold 3,000 bottles of Pepsi? Fact.
Starting point is 02:05:01 And the fact is, I had so much fun. Like, We've been doing this for six years, right? Six plus, yep. And I didn't have to Google you, but I wanted to because I wanted to. And as I kept going, I kept going, kept going, kept going, kept going,
Starting point is 02:05:18 I kept going, I kept going. And I said, his accolades doesn't match his attitude because your attitude, what I mean by that is your attitude is so much positive. It's so dope. It's so good.
Starting point is 02:05:31 Like when you see somebody, you'll come on, you'll even walk over to them. And it's like that type of version that who you are will never be made again in this era.
Starting point is 02:05:44 Facts. And that's fucked up. But that's leading by example. That's the example. So that's the reason why will never be made again in this era. Facts. And that's fucked up. But that's leading by example. That's the example. So that's the reason why we brag about people like you. We brag because I'm thinking of the movies
Starting point is 02:05:57 and then again, saying people, I say, send me all his movie lists. And that shit just kept going. And I'm looking like, holy shit. There's artists that got five records that think they're the fucking world. One album.
Starting point is 02:06:16 I was trying to say that. But yeah, and they think they're the world. And they have no idea the work that you had to put in. I'm talking about, you know, from that generation. Yeah, man. Like right now, like God bless. I don't know if we still have a quick time with slime, but this was a crazy thing. We are.
Starting point is 02:06:35 But this was a crazy thing, was we interviewed Mike Epps. And then Mike Epps, and I asked Mike Epps, how do you feel about these YouTube comedians? And he was just like, man, they don't have to, they ain't have to go through what we went through. They don't have to hit
Starting point is 02:06:52 those stages. And see, a YouTube comedian, this is according to how I took it. You see how careful I am still, y'all. He is so low.
Starting point is 02:07:02 According to how I took it. Room teacher voice. You got idiot trained right before you got here. But these YouTube guys, they can come and they can entertain their people for one minute.
Starting point is 02:07:13 Def Comedy Jam was how long? It was like 15 minutes and then it chopped down to like six or seven, right? It was, you know, it was honestly, our sets were eight minutes. Chopped down to like six.
Starting point is 02:07:26 Still okay. Yeah, it was tight. Do you think Def Comedy Jam could exist again in this climate? No, you don't think so? A version of it? I think Def Comedy Jam in this era would be bananas to break through all the bullshit. But it would be so many people like being against
Starting point is 02:07:48 truth. So many people against like being free. Wouldn't that be more reason to do it? Yes. This is the thing I'm going to say, and this is why I love Jinx Champs, right? Don't ever change your
Starting point is 02:08:04 purpose to the culture. Let me take the rest of my shot. Hold on. I ain't got one.
Starting point is 02:08:09 I got one. I got one. I got one. You got one more, brother. We were waiting for you. I'm going to
Starting point is 02:08:14 tell you something. Let me show you how I go down the hatch. Listen, I'm going to say something. Let me tell
Starting point is 02:08:17 you. Ah, yeah, yeah. I never drink this much. I only drink this. We don't ever
Starting point is 02:08:23 drink this much. Because I'm with you guys. Only on Jinx Champs. I only drink this much. We don't ever drink this much. Because I'm with you guys. Only on Drink Champs. I want this to be documented, right? If you do not fight for the culture, the culture will die. Because if we don't have moments like the Drink Champs, different people that really love hip hop.
Starting point is 02:08:47 Like, I love my life. I love my success. I love my book that's coming out, my podcast, my family, my kids. I love all that. But, like, even my children don't understand hip hop like I do. Because hip hop was like a way for me to feel good about myself. Hip hop was
Starting point is 02:09:10 a way for me to feel my swagger. Hip hop was a way to interpret my music. Drink Champs is music to the culture. It's a new sauce cover.
Starting point is 02:09:25 You got to understand, take Drink Champs is music to the culture. Yeah, we like the new sauce cover. It's sauce. Like, you got to understand, take Drink Champs. I'm not even promoting myself. Take Drink Champs out the game. It be empty. Yes, it is. Am I lying? Yes.
Starting point is 02:09:42 Think about it. We don't have, y'all not on TV TV. No. But guess what y'all did? We make it to TV TV. Let's get to motherfucking internet and get busy. And let me tell you what, the internet speak volumes. Because this is worldwide. Ain't no ceilings on this, right?
Starting point is 02:09:58 Mm-hmm. So when I see y'all interviews and I see how funny and like even though you got to get drunk, come on here. No, you don't have to. You don't have to. I chose to. The bad sober guest that had a great episode. I feel comfortable being intoxicated. It's a safe space.
Starting point is 02:10:18 It's a safe place. It's for the culture and you guys are good guys, right? Ultimately you want to have great interviews. You want to have wonderful, and you guys are good guys, right? Ultimately, you want to have great interviews. You want to have wonderful moments, and you get everybody. I promise you, you're going to get everybody because television can't do what jink tramps can do.
Starting point is 02:10:44 Got another shot ready? Because I'm ready. No, wait, wait. Because I'm giving it from the heart. You guys right now are MTV. Wow. That's crazy. Wait. Wait. That's a little too much. Listen to me.
Starting point is 02:10:59 Drink Champs right now is MTV. Let me tell you why. Because in the 90s, MTV was Mavericks and was like, we give zero fucks. And we're going to push, that wouldn't have the opportunity. Do not stop doing drink champs. A guy like Kanye. A guy like Irv. A guy like goddamn Jay. A goddamn Rihanna. Who else? Kuhurk.
Starting point is 02:11:54 No, we need Kuhurk. But listen, this is the thing we got to do with Dream Champs. We got to have a platform for the culture so cats can learn something they didn't know. Cats going to come and see my interview and go, I didn't know. When I watched Kanye's interview, I was like, I didn't know.
Starting point is 02:12:21 When I watched Irv Gotti and I Gotti, I was like, I ain't know he's still in love No disrespect Noreen fix your face But listen Let me fix my face Fix your face But like
Starting point is 02:12:38 I'm taking a shot I'm sorry I can't fix my face Noreen Let's take a shot Come on I don't have nothing Yo the shot just You better you taking a shot Let's take a shot Come on I don't have nothing Yo the shot just
Starting point is 02:12:46 Yes you do You better start taking a shot So let me Let me Drink a shot Cause you was Trump's homeboy At one point right You're Trump's homeboy
Starting point is 02:12:54 Trump's homeboy Yeah No I wasn't Trump's homeboy You finger popped something with Trump You finger popped Trump No You finger popped Trump No
Starting point is 02:13:04 You been researching me? No, I've been researching you. Nor is he a lightweight investigator. You work for the feds, so all right. He's lightweight? He illuminates. So real quick. I don't know what year it was,
Starting point is 02:13:22 but I hosted... Trump had a Team Miss USA. And the crazy thing, let me see. Do you know Nick Lachey's wife is Vanessa? No, sir. Marcel? No, no. What's Nick Googling? Yeah, he's a Googler. We have the Goog no. What's Nick Googler?
Starting point is 02:13:47 Yeah, he's a Googler. We have the Googler. He's the Googler. The Googler is like the Googler. What's up? What's Nick Lachey's wife's name? You said Hutchins? Nick Lachey's wife's name is Nick Lachey?
Starting point is 02:14:00 Is Hutchins the last name or the first name? It's the L, nigga. Vanessa Hutchins. No, I don't know. I have no idea what we're talking about. No, I'm just saying. Is it the last name or the first name? It's the L, nigga. Vanessa Hudgens. So... No, I don't know. I have no idea what we're talking about. No, I'm just saying, I hosted Miss Teen USA once. Okay, where's this at?
Starting point is 02:14:14 Well, you know, Trump was always at those weird things. Is that some late flaky? No, I'm... No, no. This is like 90s. All right. We obviously suck at Googling.
Starting point is 02:14:24 I'm hosting Miss Teen USA. And it was actually super dope. Like, it was a great situation. I didn't know Donald Trump. What year was this, by the way? Just to know the Trump year. Estimated. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 02:14:43 I want to say 93, 94. Okay, okay. That's when we all Admired Trump Who Tang is outside Guess who the black Trump This is the admiration That's the thing No I'm being honest
Starting point is 02:14:52 So I'm like I'm hosting This one Trump is cool He's the cool Trump And I didn't even Know he would ever Run for like President
Starting point is 02:15:03 And win Decades before. So, you know, I'm like MTV guy. I get it. It was on CBS or something. Uh-huh. Because, you know, that shit was crazy. My next time in New York.
Starting point is 02:15:16 Thanks. What? My next time? I'm going to look. Awesome, guys. Great job. By the way, by the way, by the way, he just said the name as if we all understood No one understood
Starting point is 02:15:27 Except for him Can you say that in English What the fuck did he just say The way you're saying it No way He's at Thank you very much But right now
Starting point is 02:15:43 But right now she right now She's on She's on She's on Novella CSI Hawaii Ooh But But at that time
Starting point is 02:15:53 Hawaii novella Vanessa Manilo Was a gorgeous Beautiful girl Vanessa was one of like She's beautiful She was like Coming up in like, she's beautiful. She was like coming up in a pageant shit.
Starting point is 02:16:07 She was a contestant. Right. At that time. So I'm like Bill Bellamy, Holston, whatever. So cut to I meet Donald Trump for the first time. And at this time, Donald Trump is
Starting point is 02:16:23 probably one of the most charismatic people. Right. Because he's like personality. He's shaking hands. He's saying hello. I never knew he would be a politician in 90. No, no, you wouldn't know that then. No way.
Starting point is 02:16:41 So this might be 94, 3. This is mad early But at this time he is on CBS No this is big You don't understand Miss Teen USA No but what's the correlation with him saying that you supported Trump No I said that they were in a relationship Oh that's the relationship
Starting point is 02:16:59 Nori drunk You gotta understand Nori let's go back You said you had a good experience with him Nori cause I No. You got to understand. Nori, let's go back. You said you had a good experience with him in that situation. No, listen, listen. Nori, because I know how to end that. It can get crazy. Yeah. This is 93, 94.
Starting point is 02:17:15 Do you understand Donald Trump in 93, 94 did not have his TV show? Yes. He did not. He was just a businessman. He was just a businessman. He was just a businessman in real estate back then. A celebrity business. You was in jail. Yes.
Starting point is 02:17:32 And our folks liked it. You been saying that though. You said it. Everything I asked him, he said I was in jail. Our folks liked him back then. He was great back then. No. Here's the thing that was interesting. because cats don't know the transition.
Starting point is 02:17:50 We lived it. Let's go back. We in the early 90s. Social media is not a thing. Napster is about to happen. Okay. So we like, we coming up in the game Like
Starting point is 02:18:08 Cass is trying to win Right So Donald Trump At that time Was Mr. New York Locally It's fine
Starting point is 02:18:17 I understand Not just locally Nationally he's the No No No There was No
Starting point is 02:18:22 Not in the 90s Yeah man You think he was national? I'm in Miami, so I'm telling you this. Oh, okay. How did you know? I'm just saying, culturally, he was like this rich guy that everybody, we all were like, we want to be like Donald Trump. Why? Because he's a millionaire. Why?
Starting point is 02:18:38 Was it on TV? Yeah. What was it talking about? In the Miami Herald. Like shows, all those news exposés on him? No, no, it's too, no, no, no. That's behind that. What 90s are you talking about? I'm talking 92, 93. Okay, maybe not.
Starting point is 02:18:50 You're right. You might be right. No, no, you talking about the shit when it got boom, boom, boom. I'm talking about when I first met Donald Trump, I was hosting Miss Teen USA. I'm talking about Raekwon Black Trump. Yeah, that's after. That's 94, 95. No, I'm before you. I'm talking about Raekwon Black Trump. Yeah, that's after. That's 94, 95. No, I'm before you.
Starting point is 02:19:06 I'm before you. But even in the 80s, Trump was already a celebrity. No, he was not. Not like you think he is. He was a playboy with the clock.
Starting point is 02:19:15 He kind of was a playboy with the clock. Trump was always a cultural celebrity in America. Not like, no, no, no. Rich like Donald Trump. This is a great conversation
Starting point is 02:19:23 by the way, guys. Here in Miami. Great, great, great conversation. You grew up in Miami, right? Yes. No, no, no, no. Rich like Donald Trump. This is a great conversation right away, guys. Here in Miami. Great, great, great conversation. You grew up in Miami, right? Yes. No, no, no. Trump got like- Are you sure?
Starting point is 02:19:32 Look, look, they're agreeing, though. Wait, wait. I'm going to give it to you. So me, Noriega, we was in New York. You were in Miami. What? How many people was in Miami in 91, 92? Yeah. He was in jail. Who, 92? He was in jail.
Starting point is 02:19:46 Who was out? I'm in New York. Me and Noriega in New York. Everybody else and everywhere else. Wasn't Trump known to everybody? What year? I remember he was a wrestler. He was a wrestler.
Starting point is 02:19:59 Trump is known. He's a cultural thing in America. In 92? In the late 80s, even. Early 90s, late 80s, early 90s. Early 90s, he's becoming a phenomenon. It's a great conversation, by the way. He becomes the bar for what Americans perceive as,
Starting point is 02:20:23 this is what we're going to be. Success. Yeah. At what year? Yeah, Americans perceive as this is what we're going to be. Success. Yeah. At what year? Home Alone is what? 92. He's in Home Alone, 92. He was in WrestleMania.
Starting point is 02:20:33 He was in that. That was big. What year was that? That was a year. 89. 89? Look at that. 89?
Starting point is 02:20:39 Damn. Okay. I was right. You were not ill. I don't know how you wanted to be right. You wasn't even in college. Are your ears right? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:48 Are you sure? I'm telling you. No, I'm telling you. I was on MTV in 91, 92. And I was a kid, but I even remember like Trump was like that thing. You know why I can understand his point is because even if he was a cultural phenomenon back then you didn't understand
Starting point is 02:21:09 it if he was just in New York. If he was just in New York. I was more local like I didn't know the impact. Even though you was in the country. I'll be honest. I didn't know the impact in Miami at that time. So me and Noriega we in New York,
Starting point is 02:21:26 like honestly, there was like in 91, 92, there was no Trump Towers and all that other shit. But you know what's funny? It's just like what you're saying right now. It's just like what Dave Chappelle said in his monologue.
Starting point is 02:21:39 Dave Chappelle said, a lot of people said, he said, Dave said, people think the Trump era is over. He said, but it's not. No, it's not. He said, people in New York, I think you can think that.
Starting point is 02:21:50 He said, but I live in Ohio amongst the poor whites. And that's what he's trying to say is that the Trump era is going to continue to grow and keep going because of that. Because people have never seen a person speak politics in that way. And in that form, in that way, I do agree with Dave Chappelle. People have never seen. No. Disrespectful. But what does that do with what we're saying?
Starting point is 02:22:16 I have no idea. No, we don't. Hey. How are we being drinking? We don't know. We're trying to talk the dumbest politics there is. We are not that dumb bro No listen
Starting point is 02:22:27 We're a little bit dumb It's two things We're talking about Like Cultural impact And relevance Right like So here we go
Starting point is 02:22:37 But Trump was cool When you was fucking So let's Yeah let's just go back to that Never mind If we knew him or not We're not talking about Day one right now
Starting point is 02:22:43 Right But I'm saying back then, I'm on MTV. I didn't. No, he was not finger popping. Why do you always want me finger popping? He said you in the same couch with Trump and shit. Like, oh, shit. No, I'm not that.
Starting point is 02:22:55 You always want me finger popping. I don't finger pop. Because, I mean, let's be clear. Finger popping means smashing. What does finger popping mean? It means smashing. I just like the term. No, no. Finger popping means finger popping. Smas does finger popping mean? It means smashing I just like the term No, no
Starting point is 02:23:06 Finger popping means finger popping Smashing is smashing Come on, man Let's keep it 100 It's a noun It's a It's a noun Actually, it's a verb
Starting point is 02:23:14 No, it's a verb It's a verb Yo, finger popping is an action verb Yo, he was in prison at that time I could tell he was in prison You was in prison I don't know you equate that to. I could tell he was in prison. You was in prison. I don't know you equate that to that.
Starting point is 02:23:29 I thought this was my partner. Why are you always in jail? No, it's back then. It's back then. You're always in jail. No, no, no. I'm not in jail. I'm not in jail. You got to be on the street so we can talk.
Starting point is 02:23:39 All right. All right. The next question. All right. I never see you. I never see you go. and the next question is. You know, I can take a joke. I'm good.
Starting point is 02:23:50 Okay. Finger pop it or not finger pop it? It's not a, get it, get it. It's not a, let's go. Are you taking a shot for finger pop it? I'm taking a drink. All right. I'm going to drink my drink, for me i'm drinking a drink all right i'm gonna drink my drink i'm gonna drink my drink oh shit no this is his drink not his shot oh
Starting point is 02:24:13 i got my drink there's a difference this is a drink this is a drink come true but because Because, honestly, bro, I love y'all show with all my heart. And I promise you, I'm not making this up. I watch you guys grind. I watch you guys blow your shit up. And I'm like, I was like, I got to do Dream Champs. I ran into Noriega in Vegas. Yes. And he was like, yo, B, you got to come fuck with us. Damn it. And I said, Noriega in Vegas Yes And he was like Yo B You gotta come fuck with us
Starting point is 02:24:46 Damn it And I said Norie when? He was like I don't know He said But are you finger popping? But you gotta do it
Starting point is 02:24:53 He was like Are you finger popping? I was like yeah I'm finger popping Make some noise I'm finger popping Okay My bad
Starting point is 02:25:02 My bad Hold on Hold on So I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you No I'm real I'm gonna tell on, hold on. As you know, I'm real. I'm going to salute you with my drink. This is my drink. And then I'm going to also salute you with my shot
Starting point is 02:25:10 because I'm taking that too, even if I don't have to take a shot. Nor are you a drinker. This is my Puerto Rican side, but I got to switch it. And, you know, I can go to my black side. But then I'm fucked up about it. My black side want black alcohol.
Starting point is 02:25:24 Go get your shit. Go get you like. All right, all right. So. You multicultural. This is black Puerto Rican, guys. I just want to put it out there. Now, this one's going to hit me personally.
Starting point is 02:25:34 Okay, go ahead. Because I'm going to take it personal, whichever one you pick for this one. Coming to America or Harlem Nights? Woo. That's the theme we didn't think of Coming to America Harlem Nights Wow, really? I'm going to be honest
Starting point is 02:25:50 I know why you're going to say Harlem Nights That's a mixtape in you Look, look, look And Because that had everybody in it too Harlem Nights was crazy It was In my experience
Starting point is 02:26:02 I heard Kevin Hart one day Say Don't cry, Nor He wanted I'm not crying Crazy. It was. In my experience, I heard Kevin Hart one day say... Don't cry, Norris. I'm not crying. He wanted to remake Harlem Nights. So I kept listening and I was just like, why would you remake Harlem Nights? And what I didn't realize is Harlem Nights for us is Who's the Man. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:26:22 It's the mixtape. It's the Who's the Man. It is the Who's the Man. Of comedians. Fact I'm saying. It's the mixtape. It's the Who's the Man. It is the Who's the Man. Of comedians. Fact. So is that the reason why you pick Harlem Nights? I just pick Harlem Nights because I feel like... Was that Redd Foxx's last performance?
Starting point is 02:26:39 That's true. Relatively. relatively. But Harlem Nights is the quintessential movie for all these talented comedians to be in one film. And it was phenomenal. I mean, there's so many moments in
Starting point is 02:26:58 Harlem Nights that will fuck your world up of laughter. it's no words. Like, we need to do another Harlem Nights. Like, we need to do, like, Who's the Man to Harlem Nights. We got to do another one. But Harlem Nights was crazy. Let's give Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, Della Reese, they flowers, bro.
Starting point is 02:27:20 Stop playing, bro. And shot her in the pinky toe. And shot her in the pinky toe. And shot her in the pinky toe. Whoever got shot in their pinky toe! I ain't going to lie. You got to be an ill aimerer. Aimerer? You got to aimerer things.
Starting point is 02:27:33 In the pinky toe and you just hit the pinky toe? That's a good aimerer. Okay, moving on. Are we moving on? Are we moving on? Is there more questions? We've got 17,000. No, no, no. A little bit more.
Starting point is 02:27:47 It's a little more. It's like four more. Oh, wait. I got the next one. Yes, please. Biggie or Big L? Biggie. And you got the next one after that?
Starting point is 02:27:56 Ain't nothing to talk about. And I love Big L. But Biggie. Come on. Stop playing. All right. Scarface or Ice Cube? Oh. Come on, stop playing. All right, Scarface or Ice Cube?
Starting point is 02:28:14 Scarface. Whoa. I got to go. I got to go with Big Dog. Scarface is everything. Okay. And I love Ice Cube, but Scarface? Pick up to Ice Cube for telling us, I ain't got nothing to do with drunk champs.
Starting point is 02:28:31 I stand with you, Ice Cube. I ain't got nothing to do with drunk champs either. I'm such an Ice Cube fan. I love Ice Cube. You know I'm an ultra Ice Cube fan. Only time I've been nervous on Drink Chats is when we had Ice Cube on. Ice Cube is OG in the game.
Starting point is 02:28:48 Pioneer. Respect Ice Cube. Please don't call us drunk champs. Yeah, yeah. He called us drunk champs. Drink champs. You looked like a candy cane that day. I'm not going to lie to you.
Starting point is 02:28:57 I was red? You were red and white. Man, let me tell you, man. NWA, the death certificate, the predator. Ice Cube is a man. Yes, he is. And we still respect him. Okay. What you got? Let me tell you, man. NWA, the death certificate, the predator, like Ice Cube is a man. Yes, he is. And we still respect him.
Starting point is 02:29:08 Okay. What you got? LL Cool J. No, no, no. Hold on. My bad. I'll skip it. Tyson or Ali?
Starting point is 02:29:16 Who? Tyson, Mike Tyson, or Muhammad Ali? Why Newark all just came out of you right now? Everything about Newark and Clinton Avenue and everything. Listen, listen, listen. Bergen Street. Yeah, Bergen Street. So you, what's the reference? You just throw the names out?
Starting point is 02:29:34 We don't have no reference. You just got to take a shot. Tyson or Ali? Tyson or Ali. Ali. Ali. Nothing to talk about. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 02:29:41 Nothing to talk about. Okay. Ain't nobody ever going to do it like Ali. Okay. You want the next about. Yeah, man. Nothing to talk about. Okay. Ain't nobody ever going to do it like Ali. Okay. You want the next one? Yeah, sure. L.O. or Big Daddy Kane? I'm dating L.O.
Starting point is 02:29:55 What? What's your point? Give the shot. Give the shot. The point is, drink up. Give the shot. He got a shot. How come I'm the only one who keep drinking?
Starting point is 02:30:07 I don't know what you're doing with yourself. Yeah, God damn it. LL and Big Daddy King. You cannot. I'm going to give y'all some good shit about LL. Oh, you got something? Let's go. Let's go.
Starting point is 02:30:20 Let's drink first. Yeah, you gave us enough Todd stories. Salud. No, he wants to give more Todd stories... Shoot it down. You gave us enough Todd stories. Salud. No, he wants to give more Todd stories. But, man, I would love another Todd story. I'm going to call him Todd. Stop it. Stop it.
Starting point is 02:30:31 You just did. This is what I'm going to say to you real quick. We're sorry that we said Todd. For all the young cats in the game, probably under 40 or 30, LL and Big Daddy King. Will both take your bitch? Will steal your chick.
Starting point is 02:30:52 Yes. To this day. To this day. If they wanted to. To this day. To Todd Smith and Big Daddy King, who I just talked to a couple days ago. It's two things in hip-hop that I fucking
Starting point is 02:31:08 relate to. Ladies love El Cujo, right? And Big Daddy Kane. What most cats don't know about Bill Bellamy, I came up as a dancer before I became a comedian. And so what's crazy
Starting point is 02:31:26 about LL Cool J and Big Daddy King, because they're like a hybrid of me. So... Are you kidding me? In hip hop? So you got to understand, LL Cool J was a cool cat that talked about the game that ladies liked.
Starting point is 02:31:52 Ladies loved it. Ladies love LL Cool J. Right. His lips was never dry. You always licked his lips. I liked how you licked your lips. You saw that. That's like Cool shit
Starting point is 02:32:07 But the dope shit About Big Daddy Kane And I'ma give him His fly was like Kane was a chocolate cat That could dance And talk that shit And be
Starting point is 02:32:20 His lips was already Moisturized Already It was already Moisturized Oh my god I'm sorry. I went too far.
Starting point is 02:32:25 So, to be like, I'm going to be no filters, perfectly honest. L.O. Coojay, Big Daddy Kane influenced me as a comedian. Because they was rappers. Right. Like, cats don't... The coolest motherfuckers ever. Listen, listen, listen. They rappers and they doing it in a fly way.
Starting point is 02:32:54 So you got to understand, like, cats don't know as comedians how to do what they do, right? So I'm watching. Because I told Kane a couple weeks ago, I was like, Kane, I'm going. Because I told Kane a couple weeks ago, I was like, Kane, I'm going to be honest with you, man. You was, to me, the
Starting point is 02:33:13 coolest cat I ever seen. Like, from Jersey, looking at a New York cat with that kind of swag in the game, and you was committed to the essence of who you are. He was a smooth operator. He was a smooth operator.
Starting point is 02:33:29 Am I lying? He is the smooth operator. I promise you. He wasn't was. He is. Cut to LL Koo Jay. Papa love it. Baby, listen. Not the show. Listen. So, me and LL Cool J, Papa Lovey, baby, listen. Oh, I knocked the show. Listen.
Starting point is 02:33:45 So me and LL Cool J been friends for like 30 years. And I'm going to say this to the culture and to the game, LL Cool J, Big Daddy Kane, and Eddie Murphy is me. That's what you made into yourself? If you had to take three elements of Bill Bellamy, if you had to take three elements of Bill Bellamy, if you had to take three elements of who Bill Bellamy is, you take LL Cool J,
Starting point is 02:34:34 Big Daddy King, and what was the third person I said? Who'd you say? Eddie Murphy. So if you took... Thank you, Diego. No, wait, wait. Listen to this.
Starting point is 02:34:47 I'm going to tell you who Bill Bellamy is right now, because I know y'all are going to use this on social media. It's Eddie Murphy, Big Daddy Kane, and LL Cool J. That's who Bill Bellamy is. So let me ask you this, though. When you did the movie with L, how did you feel about this is the person,
Starting point is 02:35:09 one of the people that I'm influenced by? He didn't know it. But you knew it. I do. So what did that mean to you? So when I did Any Given Sunday with L or Cool J,
Starting point is 02:35:22 I never told him How much of an influence He was Like I hope he sees this interview And accepts what I'm about to say And like This is the funny shit about
Starting point is 02:35:40 Dream Champs And why Dream Champs Is this shit right Because I can give my flowers to my friends. Please. What?
Starting point is 02:35:51 L.O. Cool J and Big Daddy King is Bill Bellamy. It's a hybrid. So, like, if you were like, oh, my God, what is Bill Bellamy? Like, who is this dude,
Starting point is 02:36:05 Bill Bellamy? I'm a is this dude, Bill Bellamy? I'm a hybrid of, I'm going to show you who I am right now in this interview. I am a hybrid of Big Daddy King, LL Cool J, Eddie Murphy. What's my other one? So boom boom Richard Pryor So So you if you say What is Bill Bellamy? I'm a hybrid of hip hop And classic comedy
Starting point is 02:36:40 So Coming up in the game out the streets, El Coojay made me feel that cool was fly. Motherfucking Big Daddy Kane showed me we could have swag. You know what I mean? And then I look at Eddie Murphy, he said that I could be raw. That's when you start snatching bitches' wigs off? You snatched it.
Starting point is 02:37:08 No, no, no. Because you was in jail. No, no, no. No, they had a show. He's so rugged. He was in jail at the time. No, no, no. At the time.
Starting point is 02:37:17 You was in jail when I was not there? I seen that radio interview where he was like, this is no weave Tuesdays. What was it called? No lace front Tuesday. No lace called? No lace front Tuesday. No lace front. No lace front Fridays. How did this work out for you? Because I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 02:37:31 What era was this at? Because no lace front Fridays is not working in 2023. They are going to meet to you. Thank God. Because you said you was running on taking lace fronts out. I said. No, no. I did this.
Starting point is 02:37:46 Like, I was doing this joint about, like, Nori, you on your A game. I'm sorry. I've been studying. So I was talking about lace fronts because lace fronts is cute, but. Sexy for some people. It's temporary. Yeah, very temporary. Because the lace front will come off.
Starting point is 02:38:06 We've seen the interview. You ain't seen the interview? I got to go pee-pee. Again? Go ahead. Go ahead. And we're going to end this out. And then it drops, and then you good.
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