Drink Champs - Episode 348 w/ My Expert Opinion

Episode Date: January 27, 2023

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the Champs chop it up with My Expert Opinion! Math Hoffa, Mr. Mecc, Sean Bigga & Michael Smith-Baker talk careers, battle rap and much more! Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 Make some noise!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com  Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps  DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions  N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreaga *Check out our Culture Cards NFT project by joining The Culture Cards Discord: 👇* https://discord.gg/theculturecardsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's time for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfuckers. What it good be? Hope it is what it should be. This is your boy, N-A-O-N-A-A. What up? It's DJ E-F-N. And this is military crazy raw.

Drink Champs. Let's go. Yappy motherfucking hour. Make something. And I'm proud to announce something before we announce the people that's here. Happy New Year. You was on vacation. You was on vacation too.

And so before we get into that, and I also laid two verses, one for Math and one for the Drinks Champs album that we're making up. Before we get into all that, I wanted to say happy birthday to our friend Russ. Where's Russ at? Russ, come on in. Happy birthday, our good friend Russ. But right now, what I'd like to say, this is one of the hottest podcasts on the street. They arguing. They start a controversy.

I was so happy to see them in controversy. I was like, yeah. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? I was like, yeah. And I'm so proud to introduce my expert opinion on the motherfucking drink test. Man, I can't. I can't.

You know, Mav, I'm going to be honest with you, Mav. Yeah. Like, I brag about you. Yes. I brag about you because you're one of the people who actually listen to me. Listen to everything that you say. And I'll be like, yo, this should be working. I'll be scared to give him an invite because I don't want this shit to not work no more.

You know what I'm saying? Right. So, but, guys, you guys have been on a roll. How did we come here? Because it feels like the show. Let me speak about the show. It feels like the show, this is like its third leg. Like it's a third difference.

Like iteration of it? Yeah, like yes. And so it describes it to people who... Well, first I want to say, part of me even getting here was you believing. That's right. That's right. You know, I was the first battle rapper. That's was you believing. That's right. That's right. You know, I was the first battle rapper. That's a little bit more for me.

Yeah, that's a little bit more. I was the first battle rapper with drinks. That's right. You know what I mean? That's right. And just knowing that you had that type of belief in what I was doing, and you put me on a platform That you've had

Nas Right So many Like so many legends That's right That gave me a lot of energy To just go back in And keep it going

You know what I mean Right And I found a good crew And we here now How did we get here though Because I remember It felt like it was a different crew In the beginning

And then we had the girl Right Yeah That was one of the things Okay That you told me to do I did that Shout out to Misfit

You know that's still a homie But she went on She created her own platform Which is dope And we're working on something With her now For the future Right

Yeah and it was Knowledge Shout out to Knowledge Hip hop is real You know he still covers All the battle rap events And all that stuff Like he's They're number one

In that field Shout out to Uncle's the number one in that field. Shout out to Uncle Rob also. And, yeah, after that, it was kind of like, you know, just finding the right niche. Right. You know, with a barbershop, every time you walk in a barbershop, you're not going to see the same person. Right. So, you know, it was like that for a little while. But I feel like I got a good squad now.

Right. And we're here. Y'all here, man. Make some noise for that. Make some noise for that. Make some noise for that. And give them the flowers. So off top, let's give y'all y'all flowers, man. Y'all deserve y'all flowers.

Let's give them y'all flowers. And we could have gave, you know. It's the leader. It's the leader. Our crew is fucking socks. Look. It's right in front of you, god damn it. Jesus, we had this shit all together.

We don't look like experts at all but I was saying the flower We know what it is to be in the trenches, guys. Can they see this? Can they see this? Yes, hell yeah. No reason. Yes. I got a 16. I'm going to get shot. And I get these goons.

Wow. Yes, yes, yes. I'm going to have to find out if this shit is real. They real. They real. Wow. So let me ask you, Matthew, right? Sir.

You come in from a journalistic background, right? And you now happen to be critiqued Right Because There's people who's gonna have An opinion on you The same way you had opinions On it

Is that something When it flips on you Is it something that You No Not at all No first of all Right

We was getting picked at At the source all the time Really God forbid you rate an album If this is your favorite rapper. Yo, I thought about that the other day. I'm sorry. Benzino really gave himself four and a half.

Yo, I was like, my man is out alive. That's my man. I love him. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm brain fart. My bad. You think we didn't get criticized for that?

No, I did not know. Bro. Back then, y'all didn't have Instagram and Twitter and shit like that, so it's different now. The movies were actually outside. Right. And I was outside.

Look at him. People wanted to talk actually outside, so for the longest time, my name was Mecca from the source. Everybody knew where I was. Yes, right. So I think you saved under my phone. This is fucked up.

Here we go. Hold on. Hold on. So wait, so all the drama you had at the source, is that why. This is fucked up. Here we go. Hold on. Hold on. So wait. So all the drama you had at the source, is that why you started doing martial arts? Here we go. He's curious. I'm trying to figure out where this comes from.

He really has my... It's fucked up. I didn't know what it is. No, I made my bones in there. I'm not mad at it. But at the same time, if you ask me if critique is something new, it's really not. Riley. I had your favorite rapper's fans were mad at us for whatever reason.

You have your own bottle, man. We get your own bottle, sir. You know what I mean? Come on. We get money over here, man. At least you're trying to. You know what I'm saying? It's not new.

Right. Not new. Not new at all. If I said something bad about Nori's album, you think his fans wouldn't show up? Oh, wow. I thought... If all your fans thought everything you did was classic, and we gave you four and a half,

we had to hear it. Somebody was pulling up to say something. Right. So that's not new at all. Yeah, get it to your wife. That's the proper thing to do. That's right. That's not new at all, bro.

So now... I want to ask you something, because something that came up on the show, right? I know you have a close relationship with Busta Rhymes, one of my great friends, right? Mazay and all. And at one point, you had weak to villain, right? Mm-hmm. I don't remember what he said, but he said something. Plenty.

He said plenty. Oh, man. He said plenty. He said a lot. So how do you cross that line, balance it between you and Busta? Because me working with somebody who I respect versus their personal relationship are two totally separate things. It's the same, bro. How many people have your man had beef with that you didn't have beef with?

I get that. But not Busta Rhymes, bro. Nah, you're not getting beef with that you didn't have beef with. I get that. But not Busta Rhymes, bro. Nah, you're not getting away with that. I mean, I didn't, there was nothing to really get away from. He and I have been working together for years. So me going to him and saying, listen, this is what,

this is what happened. I talked to Math about it. We had a big, long conversation about the whole thing. But I wasn't working with Bust when he was dealing with Reek. Right. So I don't know what their business relationshipek. I don't know what their business relationship was. I don't know what their personal relationship was.

You can't really challenge nothing. That man's truth is that man's truth. Buster has his own version of that story. No one is the villain in their own story. Whoever's telling the story, they're the good guy in it. I want to say shout out to Buss. He got mad at you too?

He hasn't been on the show. Have you noticed that? No. He hasn't been on the show. He didn't get mad. He didn't get mad. Buss is my top five petty friend in the world.

That's what it is. You know what I mean? I relate though. I relate. I'm a petty dude. But it happens. You know what I'm saying? I'm sure people come

on this platform, they see certain things and then it comes out and then your phone is ready. It's like, yo, how you let that guy say that? And it's like, yo, what do you mean, how did we let him? Yeah, it's a fine line. I ain't going to lie.

We had the biggest version of that recently. Oh, journalism. How about that? Journalism might be tougher than hip-hop, like on the low. They don't hear you. They don't hear you. I'm not even going to lie to you. I have an equal share of both. What I'm having,

this is, I've been in hip hop making music for 20 years and I've only been, we're going to seven? Yeah, we're about to march to seven. And the controversy,

when something goes wrong, it's a bad day in the neighborhood. Like you guys got black Twitter, I assume. Yeah. I love black Twitter. I love the negative shit. I love the positive shit. But when I'm going through something, I can't Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love black Twitter. I love the negative shit. I love the positive shit.

But when I'm going through something, I can't go on black Twitter, bro. You got to leave it alone. It's too much. It's too much, bro. Did y'all receive slack for the Troy Ave interview? Still.

Not just Troy Ave. Still. It was a lot. Yeah. Still. Besides the Troy shit, it was that situation with Busta Right

Yeah we It was Shout out to Self Service You know He told a story about Just Blaze getting slapped And I got a bunch of phone calls

About that Not from Just Blaze Not from Just Blaze No But shout out Just Blaze What are people saying When you get these phone calls

Are they saying like You shouldn't have Did that I was there I didn't see this And sometimes Not from Just Blaze. No. But shout out to Just Blaze. What are people saying when you get these phone calls? Are they saying, like, you shouldn't have did that? Oh, I was there. I didn't see this. Da-da-da. Da-da-da. And sometimes, you know, my thing is an unchecked lie becomes the truth. And I'm not saying anybody came on my platform lying. Right.

I'm saying if you feel like it went another way, you know, this is entertainment. The same way this person came to the shop and then, you know, they told their story. You could tell your story also. My issue is when people get upset and then they ignore it like they're above it when they're not above it because you're upset. If you're upset, you're not above it. You know, there's certain things that don't bother me anymore because I'm above it. You know what I mean? But if it's irking me, then you should just set that straight. Whether it's my platform or Drink Champs or whatever platform

you want to go on. But don't just let it sit and get mad at me for it. You know what I mean? I understand. If Styles has something to say after the J-Hud joint. Yeah.

And then a lot of people called me and was like, yeah, I could have told you that. I'm like, then why didn't you? You know what I mean? Why didn't you call me? You know what it is. I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you that i'm like then why didn't you you know what i mean why did you call me you know what it is i'm gonna tell you i'm gonna tell you i'm gonna tell you i'm gonna tell you like it's like with no disrespect like i could never ever even think

about interviewing cuban link right right because of my relationship with fat joe it's just it's just it's just it's no disrespect to him i have no beef i have no quarrel but i'm with joe it's just just simple and I, on another note, I can't interview Rick because of the same thing. My relationship with Busta is too crazy. He's told me. So in that situation, if I was to have

either of those two brothers on, I would be wrong. But that's personal. Wrong as a friend. As media. Really? As media? You're supposed to be a whore media you're supposed to be a whore nothing's personal you're supposed to be a whore when you're a media

I don't know if I'm supposed to be a whore you know what I'm trying to say you're supposed to be getting finger popped a lot you know what I'm saying like you media I'm sorry whore

not at all not at all no you got a lot I don't remember that I don't remember that at all. For me, there are certain things that you know, like, okay, you know, my moral standard couldn't allow somebody who presented paperwork on someone to come on the platform. It's reckless.

And if you came on the platform and you said something reckless, like, I would be responsible for that. Right already saw it you know that's not drinking you know I'm drinking you want some aces made yeah oh come on that was it that was the thing like you know no no no give me some Cuban porn I got I love those guys Back in the days But When you see certain things It's like you gotta

Damn bro I wish you never did that Cause now it's like To me if you have A relationship With Styles And y'all Was talking like that

Then you would be wrong But if y'all have a Regular industry relationship Like when you see each other It's like You're just a fan Or they're just a fan of you, they're not understand,

you know what I mean? But once that relationship is, like I remember Nas getting mad at me, right? Over? Over me hanging with Kormega, and I thought Nas, at the time I thought Nas wouldn't even care. Right.

But he had expressed the feeling that like, oh, damn. I like that, I like that. That was together, that was together. But, the feeling that like, oh, damn. I like that. I like that. That was together. That was together. But, and at that time, I didn't agree with him or nothing. And I don't know if you've ever seen this video, John Blaze. Yeah.

And if you ever look at the video, John Blaze, that's the day we squashed it. And if you notice, I got the microphone and I'm in the background like this because I really didn't understand him until recently. Right. Like, I didn't understand that my loyalty was supposed to be there like it was never supposed to be questioned I was supposed to never especially at that moment I seen you had caught me on the show so break it down to me what what you know I can't break it down I'm not saying what I'm saying incident but what made you feel like, okay, for these reasons, I wasn't supposed to do that. What are the reasons? Well, the reason was at that time he wanted that loyalty.

He wanted me to show that I was loyal to him. Did he ask you ahead of time? Yeah, actually. Actually, he kind of did. No, no, no. No, no. I found out after. It was like whatever a picture was, and then I found out that he didn't like us taking a picture, right?

And that's different. But that's tough. Because then you over there being like, okay, I can't talk to you because my friend is mad at you. And then they become friends, but that person still remembers that you were shading them. You know what I mean? So what do you do?

When that happened to me, I was upset. So what I'm trying to say is if I'm mad at somebody, shit, I don't want nobody around that motherfucker, man. Who was it? I'm just saying that just generally. Who was it? It was the general. It was the general. It was real.

Talk to my life. Talk to my life, man. I can be mad at anybody. At the time, I'm so loyal, I expect everyone to just fall in line into my line of loyalty. And it just doesn't have that. And with this, it's something totally different because honestly,

let's just nail the coffin. It's like, when Kanye called, did we know he was going to be on some crazy shit? Nah. I mean, that's not totally true.

Well, you did then. Just come out of the closet. Come out of it. We talked about it. We talked about it. We're going to be 100%. Be 100%. Did you see my post though?

Did you see my post before you got in contact with Kanye? No. Because the minute I heard that interview got canceled, I was all the man. It didn't get canceled. We took it down. No, no, not that Instagram. We took it down. No, not that one.

The one where he went on LeBron's platform. Shout out to LeBron. He said that he was going to come. Once I found out that they wasn't putting that out, I was all over Instagram like, yo, Kanye, come on. Yeah, I saw that. We ain't going to do that. And then I saw you guys. I was like, damn.

Nah, that was a rough one, man. That was a rough one because. I kind of wish you didn't take it down, though. You know, I got to stand by it because it was actually him who requested it taken down. You know what I'm saying? And we were between a rock and a hard place.

And Revolt stood with us and they said, we're not going to edit this. It either stays up or comes down. So we had one choice, you know, one of two choices. Are y'all working with Revolt stood with us and they said, we're not going to edit this. It either stays up or comes down. So we had one choice, you know, one of two choices. Are y'all working with Revolt? No. No? We are the number one independent platform in the world.

I'm saying, man. Come on. I seen you and Pop talking, man. Yeah, we were talking. I got eyes, motherfucker. Ain't nothing happening yet, though. Ain't nothing happening. I know people was throwing that out there as false information.

Don't believe them. Don't believe them. They're unreliable sources. Don't nothing happened. I know people was throwing that out there as false information. Don't believe them. Don't believe them. They're unreliable sources. Don't believe them. How about you? What do you feel about independent or major? Independent. I feel independent is always the right way to go

because you get to build your own narrative. You know, when you go with major, you're going with someone else's narrative. Not really. You know what? I'll say in other cases, yes. Yeah. But in Puff's case,

I was surprised that you did the Kanye thing after everything that was going on. Are you trying to go back to Kanye? Try to get off of that. Nah. Try to run away from the top. Now we got you now.

You can do me right back In the studio Come on nigga Hold on Before I keep pushing this Kanye thing Can you send that verse So I can just Oh I got you

I'ma get drunk if I get I bet But I was surprised Cause of what What they went through With who With who With Kanye

What he was saying About Puff Listen I'll be honest I'll be honest Yeah tell him Cause it's I'll be honest All the years we ever worked With Puff He's never'all got the interview I'll be honest Tell him I'll be honest All the years we ever worked

With Puff He's never called us About an episode This nigga called me On FaceTime With the shit playing Yo play boy And then he was like

He was like So I'm thinking He gonna scream on me Like yo how you gonna Let this guy say this This is a part of you That be like Man fuck that

Cause he He can't have None of our creativity He can't be a part of it That be like Man fuck that He can't have None of our creativity He can't be a part of it That's what we sound We are independent We are independent We own all of our content

We licensed So that needs to be understood No this is a partnership It's a partnership Cool I don't know if y'all The verse I just said I said

Fuck it you know I'm feeling good So what did I say What did I say I said I said This sound like Some old camera

Nori got a stamp on Stay in it like a tampon I said, this sound like some old camera on. Nori got a stamp on. Stay in it like a tampon. I said, rap podcast millionaire. I'm the first one. Before me, they gave their YouTubes for free. Them IPOs, they ain't on. Only me and E. I'm getting it back.

I'm getting it back. And that's going to be another conversation I'm going to have with you right after the show. You know what I'm getting it back I'm getting it back And that's going to be Another conversation I'm going to have with you Right after the show You know what I'm saying You know what I'm saying Yeah cause we got you man

But hold up But be clear Nobody is truly independent Unless we own These distribution platforms What's nobody here does You partner with somebody You partner with

With YouTube Or whatever Omni that's distributing To Apple And all these people That's the problem We're not really independent I would say yeah With YouTube with YouTube or whatever Omni that's distributing to Apple and all these people. That's the problem. We're not really independent.

I would say, yeah, with YouTube, somewhat, but it's still not a... But then I guess they do kind of control you. They can. They can take you down. It's a partnership. It's all kinds of shit. If you got to sign those agreements and play by their rules, that's a partnership. Listen, I'm not going to lie to you. I'm ready to sell out

we started 2023 relax a second congratulations Amen. Salud. Salud. Salud. Salud. No, just keep cracking them doors on them, brother. Yes, man. I'm going to be honest. Just keep cracking them doors. Yeah. That's a terrible horn. This is...

Y'all making us look bad. This was one of our, you know, great moves. This is a great move. We partnered with some good people. And they showed us that they wanted us. If you know what I mean. How much control do they what kind of control do they want to exercise

over your content? The thing about Drink Champs is... The only control could be that they could end the deal if they want to, but we own the content. We just license. With that in mind... I like how y'all flipping it on us right now. You think we don't know what's going on? We bring it to them right here. So come on own the content. We just license. With that in mind, how- I like how y'all flipping it on us right now. You think we don't know what's going on? We bring it to them right here. So, so, so, come on for the ride.

Don't stop the wisdom. Come on for the ride. With that in mind, what's the hardest part about interviewing somebody where it's going to be difficult? Where they're going to say something that's super uncomfortable? Yeah. I mean, you know, at the end of the day, you know, we wanted to get back to, like, me and EF, man, we hardly ever speak, just me and him.

It's always, like, someone's on the phone. And one time, we just spoke, and we was like, let's just get back. In recent years. Yeah, I know. This fucking shit ruined us. And we just said, yo, let's get back to the legends, man. Like, let's, you know, sometimes we would start to chase, I don't want to say clickbait, but we started to chase those, so much things that's happening.

And we're going to take those too. You know, I got these relationships with these people. You know what I mean? I can't help it. But I want to get back to the cool Herx. Like, I love that y'all have Melly Mel. But then did I say something that's impossible too? You scared of Melly Mel?

I scared of Melly Mel. Listen, Melly Mel never used to give me a five. I've never said this story. I've been wanting to say this forever. Melly Mel has never give me a five. I've never said this story. I've been wanting to say this forever. Melly Mel has never gave me a five. And the first time Melly Mel gave me a five was after Drink Champ started. I swear to God.

That's dope. I swear to God. And by the way, like I said, when you have Melly Mel and Grandmaster Cass on there, I'm like, you know, that's what me and EFN is about. We're like, yo, let's give these props to, you know, the cool Herx, you know what I'm saying? The people that, you know what I mean?

And especially why our platform is as high as it can be. Like, this is really dope what we're doing. We're giving back. Like, I remember, you know, I don't want to blow people up because I don't know. But I remember me interviewing certain people and they calling me like, yo, I'm getting shows again. Like, I'm like, that was my, that was my, I was like, what? Like, word?

To be able to get back, in that way is incredible. Just from being on this show. And then they could get to go back outside. Yeah. And it's like, that's my reward. You know what I'm saying? That feels so good. Like, all right, somebody comes on My Expert Opinion,

for the next two weeks, their phone is ringing. And they'll call me and be like, yo, I didn't know. I'm like, yo. I feel like we're doing what we're supposed to do. But getting back to the styles, I just met him like five times, and he never looked me in my face. Oh, wow. And for me, that's the thing. You know what I mean?

It's like somebody's dapping you, and they're looking in the other direction. Yo, what's up? Yo, hold on, homie. You know what I mean? But, you know, it's just weird. We got to fix you and Styles. Nah, nah, nah. We don't got no issues.

We spoke already. Okay, okay. We spoke already. But I spoke to Styles, I spoke to Sheik, and I offered for Sheik to come on the platform. I can see that. And talk about it. We'll see what happens in the future. But, yeah, that was just real unfortunate. I feel like the bond that they had and how they felt towards J-Hood,

I got caught in the mix of it. Because with these interviews, when we're sitting here, we're getting people's life stories. We're getting intimate moments. You feel connected to that person. You know what I mean? You're an artist, too. And at one point, you was beefing with Sirius Jones.

At that point, when things got real, anybody that would have stood next to Sirius Jones, you wouldn't have. I wasn't B. It wasn't B? It wasn't B. Okay. I mean, we saw something online. Yeah. We had a nice little party out here at Cameo. Okay.

It was cool. Yeah, cool. Now? Now. Okay. Yeah, he's locked up right now, so I don't know. Yeah, but you know how that is. Sometimes I can see, because you know why the difference between that with J-Hood to me is when they were going through their turmoil, it was personal, very, very personal things that were said.

Right. And I'm guessing, I don't know, I'm guessing after you cross a certain line, that it's unfixable. So, and I think the locks are so honorable that they are getting mad at anybody standing next to them because they just like, you should believe me. Look how trustworthy I am. Right. But out of all of them,

you would expect Sheik was going to have that reaction. But you look at Styles and where he's at in life, you know, with all the health food stuff, and there's a lot of care. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I felt like he felt like he needed to stand up for his brother. Right.

So he went live. He said some things. I went live. I kind of put it out there like, yo, I don't have control over what these people are saying. I wasn't there. I don't know. I can't be like, that's a lie.

You have control over the edit. That's what they blame you for. And you know what, low key, I take't there. I don't know. I can't be like, that's a lie. You have control over the edit. That's what they blame. And you know what, low key, I take shit out. If I feel like it's going to be a big problem, I take shit out. I hate that. I take shit out. No, because sometimes somebody gets saucy and be like, yeah, you know what I'm saying? We was going to slap him with the hammer.

I'll be like, ah, nah. Take that out. Take that out. We ain't putting that out. Oh, we got some. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We got those.

He would be seeing me and trying to be worry-porting. I'm like, I am no man near that nigga no more, my dude. I'm sorry. I got to continue. Right. But certain shit like that, you got to be responsible and be like, all right, you was hit. You said that shit.

That could lead to a big problem. Right. I'm not even going to ask you about it. But you know what's fucked up about that sometimes? And we have to leave shit sometimes because what happens is if you throw it in the air, I'm going to tell you something.

If you throw it in the air and it doesn't get fixed or it doesn't, it's going to keep repeating itself. For instance, Swiss flipped on Drake first on Drink Champs. Right.

We edited it. We was like, you remember? Yeah. We filmed in New York. That was Yeah. We filmed in New York. That was the one we filmed in New York. Yep. And, you know,

we had Drake coming up. We thought we had Drake coming up. He see- He told us he was coming up. He put on the gram Drink Champs coming soon. He DMed Drink Champs again. Yes, all that.

So we were like, nah, we can't have that. And two months later, he goes on live with Busta Rhymes. And it's pretty much, but no, he went bad with Busta Rhymes. He didn't go bad on us because we was controlling him. Yeah? Yeah, we was controlling. And we was like, oh, wait.

So he still said what he had to say, but we controlled it to a certain extent. But then when we edited it, it was like he threw it in the universe and it didn't get corrected. So that's the reason why just like you could see Swiss and Buzz are talking. They're not even talking about nothing. And then Swiss goes, he's about to what? He's like, what? Out of nowhere. He's like, I don't know.

I'm going to get his plane. He's like, wait a minute, Swiss. get his plane He's like Wait a minute Swiss And I I remember it It's like damn It's kind of like my fault Because I edited it Excuse me

I edited it You know what I'm trying to say And he felt like He didn't get that off And I felt like He felt like he didn't get it off Right And because

If you go back And look at that So what do you do Because you You thought Drake Was coming on the show Yes That's not the reason

Why we edited that part That's not the reason why we edit that part. That's not the reason. No, it was. What was the reason? I mean, I don't quite remember, but I don't think that was the reason. And Swiss asked us to take it out. That's the reason. He asked me to take it out.

No, but that was the initial reason. I was like, yes, we're taking it out. Right, you obliged because you thought. So what did he say exactly? He turned right back around and said something. He said worse. He said worse. He said worse. He said way worse that time.

That's the, listen, journalism is different. You err on the side of your conscience. I understand if you don't want to get somebody hemmed up. In the shop,

when we doing our one-two. And by the way, I'm learning on the job. I'm being honest. I got you on that. Me too, learning on the job. And all the journalists,

shout out to everybody that I rock with. We all do. We sit back and watch and we see the mistakes that are being made. It's not a problem to err on the side of your conscience because real things happen. You know what I'm saying? Somebody say something, it reverberates. There's families that get involved.

Hip hop is in a very different place. People get shot way more often. People get killed. You have to rock with your conscience lord knows if i was in charge and i could go back and take something out that pock said that might have kept him alive take something out that biggie said that might have kept him you know on the side of your conscience you do that however this is somebody's story you don't have the right to put hands on somebody's story and the consequences that come from that story that that's something that they need to

be prepared to deal with you and you can't take that away from him it's not right you can't really get in the middle of that so if you if he comes on here and this is his truth when styles started talking when we when we were talking to styles and he's upset that we didn't we didn't come to him with the jay hood situation bro if you listen to that interview jay hood didn't address styles he said really it was chic chic was in charge of X, Y, and Z Right These are questions for chic Not styles

What I look like trying to make you Answer for somebody else Right but he gave a million disclaimers also Like understand the story is coming from 15, 16, 17 year old me And damn near 20 years ago But most of the times And correct me if I'm wrong

I'm listening I don't know if y'all go through this too People will call you up Beefing about a clip But they didn't even fucking watch The whole thing But most of the times, and correct me if I'm wrong. I'm listening. I don't know if y'all go through this too. People will call you up beefing about a clip, but they didn't even fucking watch the whole thing. No, no, no. They didn't even fucking watch it. Yeah, that's the world we live in, though. It's like, yo, bro. It is the world we live in.

So somebody just ran to you and was like, yo, you just picked up the phone and just called me off the string for that. One time, we just had clips out, and I'm at the airport, and the guy's telling me he saw the episode. And I'm like, you didn't see the episode. Right. And he's like, yeah, I saw it. He's just breaking down clips after clip after clip. And I'm just looking at this guy, and I'm like, yo, you didn't see this episode. It's not out.

Right. And, yeah, that's it. I had a guy get mad at me and say that I need to stop talking over the guest. And it was super obvious that what he watched was the couple of minutes before we actually start filming,

we have like these wild arguments and just wild debates and we keep them. Right. He saw that. He saw a barbershop argument and thought that, yo, you be talking over the guest

all the time, why don't you shut the fuck up? Yo, no shit. You be thinking you're the smartest person in the room. Meanwhile, we, four separate conversations going on. Once we got started, all right, we back. They call me cutoff. Like Mr. Cutoff.

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Did you apologize later today because you was drunk on drink jams? Nah. Because that's what happens. They always wave up. They say, oh, they had me drinking. I'm like, nigga, we were drinking together. We all got hit. We all got hit. We all got hit.

But I don't even know how we got on the subject. But somehow that came out. Alcohol is how you got on the subject. You need to get that off. Fill your cup up, by the way. But I feel like we have a responsibility when we're sitting here drinking for four hours and someone starts talking a little crazy. I think we do have a responsibility to that person.

Okay, so if... Because we're here to protect the guests. We're here to celebrate the guests. We're not here for them to fuck themselves up. But you also... But every now and then, you got to let MC Shan go crazy. Right, right, right.

What can you... You also can't shelter the wrong man. Go ahead, Shan. Absolutely. You think what I'm saying? Okay, so... Hold on, Becca. Shan got so mad.

He walked over there. We've been filming here for seven years. I never even knew that existed. He was on top of something. I was like, what the fuck? Smoking a hook. Yo, big up to MC Shan. I'm just saying where you're coming from with that.

I interviewed somebody before. I'm not going to. Yeah. You're good. from with that. I interviewed somebody before. I'm not going to. Yeah. You're good. I'm good. I interviewed somebody before. Shout out to YKTV. Thank you.

So I interviewed this dude. He's talking. He's giving these great background stories. Like a fake legend in the game too. And he said something about one super popular rapper. And I said, bro. Who is it? I don't believe that.

Who is it? Who is it? Who was it, man? Who was the rapper you talked about? Yeah. Oh, you talked about 50. He talked about 50. He said something about 50.

And I was like, that's not going in this magazine, bro. Is it because you didn't believe it? That's not happening. Or because. Oh, we all didn't believe it. We all didn't believe it. And. What'd he say?

Nah. Did you challenge him? What'd he say? Yeah, please. Don't just trick champs. We need didn't believe it. What'd he say? Nah. What'd he say? Yeah, please. Don't just trick champs. We need a moment, nigga. Nah, nah, nah. Hold on a second. Nah, but he said some wild shit.

And the same thing with me. It's trial and error with me. Right. You feel me? Coming home from prison and getting right into it. It's trial and error. So we sitting here listening. I? Like, coming home from prison and getting right into it, it's trial and error. So, we sitting here listening, and I'm like, yo, I'm asking people I'm with, yo, what you think about it? They're like, nah, I don't believe that.

Yeah. Did you challenge him when he said it? That nigga ain't going to let that shit happen. Yeah, I'll cut. I'll say, yo, let's, wait, time out. No, no, no, not time out. Did you challenge him and say, I don't believe that because X, Y, Z, A, B, and C? Yeah.

Did that solve it? I told him that I said because the history of this man and how I know this man and how I know the people surrounding him. At that time, nah, that didn't happen, bro. He must have said some crazy shit.

Some wild shit. What'd he say? Wild shit, bro. My point is, you don't edit it. My point is, you don't edit it. Nah, nah.

I wouldn't. You have the same responsibility to that person that, yo, if I go in a bar, drink my ass off, hop behind the wheel and kill somebody, is the bartender in trouble?

No. Yeah, kind of. No. Yeah. He's directly irresponsible. He's directly irresponsible. I can't drive drunk. No, no, no.

Let me tell you something. Hold on, I got a challenge. If you get drunk at a hotel, if you get drunk at a hotel and you leave that hotel, your family can sue them. I didn't say drunk. I said he drinks his ass off.

I was super specific. I never said drunk. Because you don't need to be drunk to get in an accident and fucking hurt somebody. You're right. I never said drunk. You got technical on us.

All right. Hold on. Wait. Tell him how it works. Hold on. No, I don't. Wait, Mecca, so you've written stuff where people say crazy shit and you let it go.

And I've had the answer for it. You never, you had the answer for it. You never let it fly. Right, right. You went to school for journalism? Say that again? Did you go to school for journalism? No, I learned from the masters.

I feel like real, true, like, purist journalists, they feel the way you feel. Right. We don't, we're not journalists. Yeah, right. Legit journalists, they feel the way you feel. Of course. We're not journalists. Yeah, right. Legit journalists. You're fucking young, but you... So we don't come with those journalistic integrity and morals

that you got to go, you got to put what's told to you. Which is why I'm not judging. You know what I'm saying? Which is why I'm here. Which is why I'm not shitting on you. I call, I say what's up. It's no judgment in anything I'm saying.

I'm telling you what my stance is and why. Right. You know what I'm saying? And I take into account the fact that you guys, us, have a different level of responsibility now because of the platform, because there's alcohol involved, because it's so quick and it goes right to the

people. People are going to talk reckless and there are people who want to do something for clickbait. So you got to take that in mind. He could be blatantly lying. You dig what I'm saying? So I understand all of the above. With that said, I think about editing in terms of who it's going to offend.

And in my mind, I got an OG who always takes me back to when Emmett Till was killed, his mother let them shoot his body the way it was. You got way too deep, brother. It's going to offend somebody, but that's the truth. This is drink tips, man.

I'm not sure. Okay, where are you trying to go with my brother? I mean, I get what you're saying, but I do think that that's way deeper than what we're talking about. To who? Wouldn't it be easier if you just didn't have to think about shit like that? And just let it fly. Yeah.

This is my thing. Hold on. This is my thing. Here's the difference. I'll tell y'all right now. We come from different backgrounds from Mecca. Right. That's the thing.

Mecca is a professional in journalism and what he does. Where I come from is totally different. So me walking outside Knowing that things Are going on the street Me having one foot in One foot out Alright

When I do certain things I know Listen nah We can't do that That's why I said operate So it's two different things He's a professional journalist It's like a trained soldier

I'm going to tell you And a dude in the streets Right With a gun It's two different types of mentality But they both Can have the same damage That's why I said operate from your

conscience i'm gonna tell you why like we kind of know better and i know better because i have one of the only 50 cent interviews without a jaru word being spoke one of the only 50 cent interview without irv gadi and let's flip it back I have also One of the only Ja Rule Irv Gotti interviews Without 50 Cent being mentioned I avoided it on purpose So I knew

That I got I got that intelligence You know what I'm saying Because I got a relationship With both I'm the only dude That was cool with 50 and Ja In the beginning

In the middle And still now So you had that conversation before they- No, I had that conversation with myself. And I said, I ain't asking. I ain't asking. That beef ain't funny to me. You know what I'm saying?

I'm going to ask about funny beef. I'm not going to ask about shit that led to other shit that, nah. So I just avoided it, period. And I swear to God, I always, that's something I take pride in. You know what I'm saying? And even, that's the part we edited. Irv Gotti got a little lit and he called the Yala song and we were like, uh-uh, that going. That going. Yup. And we avoided it. You know what I mean? Because at times, you're right, we shouldn't edit nothing. But then at times, we have some type of responsibility if you know where it's going to end up later.

And the relationships you got with the people. And the relationships, yeah. Operate from your conscience. That's all I have to say. Yeah, yeah. I agree with that. When I was interviewing rappers day in, day out, my very first thing I would tell them, I am not your fan. I am not a fan

You would tell him that As soon as it wasn't a rule First thing I don't believe you man I wouldn't walk down I wouldn't walk down I wouldn't walk down You a good guy

First thing First thing I told it to you You a damn I told it to you I don't remember Jesus Like bro

I would have been dope If you would have sat down right here And said I'm not your fan You have to know what I'm doing First thing I say Yo I'm from Queens I fuck with CNN Biggie shit

In this space I am not your fan I can't even get the story Yes I see where you're coming from Don't think that I'm going to Paint you in rose colored glasses You weren't meaning literally

That you were not their fan You're just saying this moment Yeah this moment I'm fast in the moment All that fan shit is outside As soon as we get right as soon as we get outside i might take a picture because you know this is my god cnn i got that i know what you're saying however i got you oh they don't pay me to be a fan but that's what's crazy and paid that's what's crazy i i that's what started this is we were spare fans like if you notice when we first started this, I did no research.

No, we didn't do any research. I didn't do no research. We did a period of what we know. Because I'm like, what the fuck am I going to ask Brad Joe? What can I Google about him? You know what I'm saying? What the fuck? I know this nigga's mom.

I know his fucking wife. I know everything. Because it starts out with the guys close to you. Then when I started to realize, I said, you know what? Google is your friend. And I would Google certain shit Like And I would research people

Like And that's becoming Like fun to me now Like my research When I researched Turk Oh my god I was like Yo this

This is going to be a great interview Yeah Yeah I interviewed Turk No not yet Yo Yeah you got to have Turk Oh listen to me Yo he is

Movies Yeah And let me just tell you something We edited nothing of him Yeah, you got to have Oh, listen to me, yo He is a movie Yeah, I've done a couple things And let me just tell you something We edited nothing of him Even when he's talked crazy Because he said this everywhere else So I didn't feel obligated

That's the good thing About researching people See, like I said before I wouldn't do that So if I research you And you already said Yeah, man, I was going Trip Royster 5'9

Not to say anybody said that Just making an example First rap that came to my mind was going to trip Royce to 5'9". Not to say anybody said that. I'm just making an example. First rapper that came to my mind. You got to trip Royce to 5'9". I'm like, damn, I got a relationship with Royce to 5'9". Maybe I should take that out. But then I'm looking. You said that everywhere.

Right. It's just a platform ain't big enough for this story. I kid you not. There's been times artists have sat right there and said the same exact story. And I was like, oh, my God. You said the same exact story. And I was like, oh my God. You said this on Vlad TV.

You said this on such and such. But for some reason, they say it here and the shit goes viral because they said it to you. Because you know, okay, okay. So you're not cool with Juvenile like that?

Yeah, I'm cool. I'm actually, that Juvi, you are. Actually, that was my own, that was my first cash money relationship was through Juvenile. I'm the one that came to Hot 97. You can pull it up. I don't know if you can.

But I was on Hot 97 saying, and everybody kept saying, what are you singing, Norby? And I'm like, I don't know, because I called him Joby. I said, it's this dude Joby from New Orleans. He hard, he hard. And then months after Jay got on the remix.

Well, the record actually hit, because a lot of people don't know, you know, I'm half Latino. A lot of people don't know, there's a whole Latino fucking in New Orleans. There's a whole little fucking, it's crazy, because it's like, they look like Chico's from Miami.

They got fronts and then they're like, what's up, what's up? You're like, my nigga. Aren't you from Dade County? What you doing here? What you doing here? I swear to God.

Oh, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, dead serious. So I used to be in New Orleans so much. It's crazy because David Banner always bigs me up and he always says, he always says, because what happened was I used to be in New Orleans so much It's crazy because David Banner always Bigs me up and You know He always says

He always says Because what happened was David Banner was filming a video And like This was a time I fucking had a show In Mississippi I was hearing that shit

So when David Banner Came to me He was unknown He was like Yo the penalty won't Give me nothing For my budget. I told him, take my video budget out and gave it to him.

For Crooked Letters, right? For Crooked Letters. I keep saying David Ballard. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. I shouldn't have said Crooked Letters. I'm so sorry. David Ballard, he blew up on his own.

My bad. But Crooked Letters. And I would do things like that. If a lot of people don't know, Pharrell's from the South, technically. Virginia. Virginia. Not technically, he's from the that. Like, if a lot of people don't know, like, Pharrell's from the South, technically. Virginia. Virginia, like... Not technically, he's from the South. Okay, my bad.

So what'd you think? Hold on, because I need to know, because I don't, you know... Yeah, I think this is flipping my interview. I respect it. Listen, I'm a fan, bro. There's love, love, love. Yeah, I'm not a fan.

So... I'm a fan. Fuck that. But afterwards, just take a picture. All right. You, um... Were you responsible for featuring Pharrell? I mean, you know that, sir.

Yeah. From the very beginning. I mean, it's documented. Yeah. I mean, Pharrell was working before that. Yeah, he was working. Working with Tate. He was doing a lot of work.

One of the first things he said to me, and this is the reason why I believed him, because he was- The Neptunes, to be exact. The Neptunes, yes. Right. He was a genius. I know it's so cliche to say it now, because he's like, he's rich, he Neptunes, yes. He was a genius. I know it's so cliche to say it now

because he's like he's rich, he's a top but I knew it then. He said to me no one listens to me. That was one of the first things I wanted to do because I wanted to

I like to be petty. I like to write no one listen let me listen then. And he said first person to listen to me is going to go number one. And I was like

alright. And this little guy I got go number one. And I was like, all right. And this little guy, I'm talking about, I got the number one record in New York City, and I know y'all all frontin' on New York City right now. Nah, I ain't frontin'

on New York City. Nah, you heard the background. I heard the little chukkas. Right. But at one point, when you had the number one record in New York City, that shit meant the world.

Number one record on Angie Martinez meant the world. That top seven or seven, whatever that shit is called. Top eight or eight. You guys had it on long before Power 105 existed. You monopolized the industry at that time. I had the number one record

on all four. But was that from listening? N-O-R-E. No, it was not from listening. It was from being... Let me get to the point. And here's the crazy shit that a lot of people don't know.

I said this story many a times. Fuck it. Let me say it for 2023. If you listen to Superthug real, real good, at the end, I go N-O-R-E Nori The remix Superthug was a fucking remix

That's why For what record? For N-O-R-E The record N-O-R-E For N-O-R-E It's still there Somewhere at the end

If you listen It go Cause the album was done And it's Pause This cocky young producer With this Filipino guy.

And they look at me and they say, you're not closing your album. And I'm number one. Like I said, I'm number one. Wow. But it's how they talk. It's how they delivered it. It was humble, but it was cocky. It was delivered like confident.

You can, that's the word I was looking for. You can't close your album. You need this. And they were right. That's a wrap. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I was listening to N.O.R.E. album on the way here.

Sorry, sorry. I was listening to N.O.R.E. album on the way here. Sorry, sorry. And it was crazy. I was speaking to my man, J.P., Eric, and Diego, and I was pointing out to them how many times Nas was on N.O.R.E. You know, Nas was on N.O.R.E. album five times. Five times. I don't even think at that time AZ had two records with Nas. I love my life.

That's him on the hook. We replaced him with Carl Thomas. That's him. He wrote that. He wrote that. He still gets published into this day. I love my life. That's him on the hook. We replaced him with Carl Thomas. That's him. He wrote that. He wrote that. He still gets published into this day. I seen it the other day.

I was like, damn, this nigga's still rapping. He's rich. The fuck is he still taking his publish anymore? I'm like, I said,

did he take it? Let it go. This accountant picked up in there. He picked up. Well, I'm trying to, I'm in the process of buying that album. But it was crazy.

He's on the story. Body in the trunk. He's on Body in the trunk. He's on I Love My Life. That's my shit. And he's on two other joints just talking in the background. And then you was on The Firm, too. Yeah, that's The Firm.

I can't lie. You had one of the hottest records on The Firm. I had the hottest record. You can say that. You don't need no gifts. I'm done being humble. I had the hottest record. You can do the same. You don't need no gifts. It's all right, man. I'm done being humble. I had the hottest record. Oh, shit.

I'll be honest. Single Handed, I was telling them this story earlier. That record, Single Handedly, saved my life. It saved your life? Which one? I'm leaving. How one? I'm leaving. How so? I was dead.

Me and Traz started beefing after the war report came out, and I literally had no manager, had no A&R. I didn't know what to do. Wow. It set your solo career off. Yes.

So what happened is... That's crazy. What happened is, after Capone went to jail, it's kind of crazy crazy Cause Nature gave me Some backstory on that too What? Nature was the man

Let me just say No But at the time he wasn't Nah that's false He said they flew You out Yeah they did Flew me out

Yeah To get him on his jail Oh that's true Cause I was... He said, your verses... My nigga had my shit wrote before I got there, my nigga. First off, let me get deep. I'm not trying to make this shit about me because it's about y'all.

But this is history. This is part of history. It's not the guy that's on the show. This is this guy, right? The reason why... So this is what happened Nas called me Was like yo

I gotta make up For missing the war report Cause remember If Nas was on the war report Music make these stuff And he ain't clear It was like Damn that shit cut us deep

Yeah Cause it was on the mixtapes Yeah We get nothing from that We get nothing from that So he wanted to make up So he was like yo Make it up to you

Let me I'm gonna fly you out to Miami So I was like, yo, make it up to you. Let me fly you out to Miami. So I was like, shit, the only other time I've been to Miami is with this fucking guy and DJ Khaled of all people, right? How ironic, right? The two people that brought me to Miami. How ironic. I'm not making this shit up, by the way. So I never went back to Miami. I couldn't afford it.

I just, I ain't have it. I'm just being honest. Respect. You laughing? Damn. I couldn't afford it. I just, I ain't have it. I'm just being honest. It's a fact. You laughing? Damn. Stickers on my staff. I thought you was broke. You was fucked up in the game.

It's true, though. It's true. It's true. So, nah, it's never, the week they go to Miami, they never call me. And whatever was Instagram back then, I had to, like, see them with the pictures. I was like, like oh sad as fuck they called me like a month later so they're like yo

we're gonna work I go in true story fly straight I remember I told my friends this today I won't even stay at this place it's Universal Sheraton I won't even have a drink at the bar right now look how far I've came, huh?

This is the part of a person I am. I'm keeping it 100. So, then, I love the Universal Sheraton. I was like, oh, I'm balling. I guess,

I guess to the studio, nature, I'm supposed to go to the studio on Wednesday. They fly me out on that Tuesday for nature session. Yeah. So, I'm on my shit. I'm supposed to go to the studio on Wednesday. They fly me out on that Tuesday for nature session. Yeah. So I'm on my shit.

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he said because no one nails it for me and i said all right cool and they by the way by the way i wasn't even supposed to be on the firm it was supposed to be a record and then they just pushed it to the front and the reason why Nature's on ban from TV is because Nature could have hated it

my session was the next day my session was Wednesday I showed there Tuesday to try to support him and my thirsty ass went down to Jay and said you guys done before this

I said for sure let's get it yes I do he was there and told me he was so excited he was like you gotta I said right I'm. Yes, I do. He was even told he was going to leave. I said, right. I wrote it all right. What did it mean?

It was the first 12 seconds that shit played. I was like, Nori know this, yo. And Nori know that. And Nori. And it was ironic about it. That's why me and Traz caught beef was because that was on the War Report album. That verse. That whole song.

That's not the beat. The whole song. That's not the beat. The whole song. That's crazy, bro. I'm sorry. I'm ripping this in too much right now. Listen. I go to the studio. Traj and Capone's out with these chicks.

I'm in the studio. I don't got time for chicks. I lay this whole shit. I'm leaving. But it was on. Don't let it go to your head now. So Pitcher. No, we know this.

And that's why I'm leaving on the next lane. I don't know. It goes together. And I played it. And then I played it for Capone. And Capone was like, yes, that's dope. And then Trash. And then Trash walked in with two bitches. And then trash. And then trash walked in

with two bitches. I was like, yo, you fuck with this? He said, that's horrible. He said, when we sample, we sample like havoc. We don't sample like Puff Daddy and we don't evolve, right? This is crazy, right?

You have no idea. No, no. You have no idea how that shit No, no. No, no. You have no idea how that shit hurt me. He was like, we don't sample like puff. We sample like havoc. And I was just like, oh, shit. So for me to go to Dr. Dre and Dr. Dre's like, this is it.

You don't understand how good that shit felt. So did you go back to trash like, you don't know what you fucking talk about, nigga. No, the world did. He got the hearing on the 97th. He got the hearing. Yeah, the world did. The world. I never had to say, you remember you being wrong? I never had to.

And he told me years later, he was like, I should have listened to you. But he was mad at the record, at the sample in the record. No, the sample, it was fruity. It was like... But that record was a bit for Brand Nubian. That was a big Brand Nubian record. Fucking Brand Nubian took it years later.

I definitely called him that day. He's like, I know. I already know. Why you calling me? Everyone knows I'm petty. He's like, I already know. That was a dope sample. It was a dope sample. Shout out to Traj. I just did something for his album. Oh, really? That's my brother.

We're trying to do our overseas for EFN's birthday. Don't blame my birthday. Yeah, we blame your birthday. And Eddie Giggs. I got, so tomorrow we're going to get on the phone with the promoter. So we're going to do Drink Champs Europe. And, you know, end it in Paris. You know, I love my wife.

She loves Paris. Oh, wow. Yeah, so we're going to do it. Yeah, I'm hitting Paris in February. Oh, you know, ended in Paris. You know, I love my wife. She loves Paris. Oh, wow. Yeah, so we're going to do it. Yeah, I'm hitting Paris in February. Oh, really? Yeah. What y'all doing in Paris? Oh, you and your lady?

Oh, okay. Okay. Look at you. One, two, oh. One, two, three. Oh. Now, I ain't going to lie to you. I ain't going to lie to you. I love that woman. She gets on my goddamn nerves, but I love her. How about you, Sean? You got a lady, Sean? Yeah, I'm married. I ain't gonna lie to you.

I love that woman. She gets on my goddamn nerves, but I love her. How about you, Sean? You got a lady, Sean? Yeah, I'm married. You're married? Oh, okay. That's what I'm talking about.

Listen, being married is gangster. That's the new game. Mecca looked away. Mecca said he a virgin still. Mecca said he's still a virgin. Mecca's going too, Sean. Mecca never said that. You want to say anything else? Nah, no. Megan never said that. You going through a break-up?

You want to edit that out? Nah, he said that on the show. He said it on the show. See how he just said he's trying not to acknowledge it? You going through a break-up? No. I'm trying to figure out where y'all niggas come up with this shit, but I'm not looking. I ain't gonna lie.

You look like you just a nigga that go through break-ups all the time. I was right over here. Just buying new beads and shit. That's real. Oh, God. You big fucking bitch. And this is why journalism is dying. Got beads.

That's a two-second conversation. I turned back, I done made up some whole shit. Hey, man. I knew he was going to have fun today. He look like he going through, wait, what? I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm shit. I knew he was gonna have fun today. He look like he going through, wait, what, I'm fine. I'm fine, I'm fine. It's cause he got three different haircuts.

He got a ponytail. A fade. Make up your mind, God damn it. Yeah, we can view. Oh my God. Ah, fuck with y'all. Nah, nah, nah. I'm used to the hair.

I'm used to the hair. Once you see the side shave, you know it ain't got nothing to do with Selassie. Nah, nah. He holding on. Selassie ain't a part of that. Nah, nah, nah. He holding on. He can come out the hat whenever he's ready.

Get some nodding. Oh, Shannon. Shannon. Okay. Shannon is the right camera bar. All right, so being that You the only one drinking I feel sorry for you Cause um

You gotta drink You gotta hold it Oh no you drinking too That's right So we doing shots What do you prefer Oh Biggie you not drinking Come on

Come on my D Nah nah nah Real talk though When Biggie drink on the show He spams on people Flip on Tony Ayo That was No

That was That move flipped on Tony Ayo Nah nah I'ma keep it real. Okay. When Bigger drink on the show, it gets a little dangerous. Oh, no. We don't want no danger.

Where you from, Bigger? Harlem. Harlem, okay. New York, though. Okay. All of New York. I respect that. He was a Harlem nigga hanging with Brooklyn niggas in the early 80s and 90s.

That's right. Let's make some noise for that nigga. So, which shot you going to take? It's up to you, my brother. No, no. It's up to you, right. That's right. Let's make some noise for that. So, what shots you going to take? It's up to you, my brother. No, no, it's up to you, bro. We want you to drink what you want to drink. Because we don't want you to blame it on me. I'm drinking Ace.

No, no, no. Shots. Shots. Shots. We got to do shots? Yeah. All right, well, that's it. You got anything?

Yeah, because it's a game. Of course, bedtime or slime. I never even heard of that. And you can pick both and be politically correct. That's when you take a shot. What you got? What's options? We got whatever you want.

We got Deleon. By the way, one of the finest tequilas on the planet. Get the logo. Get the logo. Yes, yes, yes. Go get Deleon. Nah, I'm telling you, get that revoked money, though. Get that revoked money, bro.

Yeah, yep. Thank you. Okay, but I'm telling you, get that revolt money, though. Get that revolt money, bro. Yeah, yep. Thank you. Okay, but I'm being honest. As long as you own it still, it's worth it. Just own it. That's all. What you talking about now? I'm saying, I'm still telling you, get that revolt money.

We're talking about a potential revolt situation. Get that revolt money. I talked to you about it, too. They ain't bad. Listen, we ain't mad. We ain't mad. They ain't bad. I'm telling you, man.

They've been great partners. They've been great partners, bro. Wait, what are you posing for? No, I said bars. I didn't say poise. Oh, yeah. Dude, get that fix. And you know what?

Right now, they young. I'm going to do Ciroc, though. Or should I do Japanese whiskey? That's what I'm telling you. Right here. I feel bad for asking, but can I get another bottle of water? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this is it.

By the way, Mecca, you... This is the game that you got me with the Missy thing. You better be aware of that, nigga. This is the game. You better be aware of that, nigga. No edits. No edits. I'm going to have Mecca answer half of my questions.

Yeah, but you got to still drink anyway. Yeah, I've got to. Okay. Ooh. Yeah. All right, but you got to still drink anyway. Yeah, that's cool. Okay. Ooh. Yeah. All right, so you got to remember the rules. You a marijuana? You doing mamawanna?

Okay. You got to try it. I don't know if you're going to like it. Mamawanna. Mamawanna. Mamawanna. You know they make that in the tub in Kendall. I told him to make a commercial.

I drink gel water, bro. I just playing. I just playing. I just playing. He said I drink gel water. I just say that. I just say that to fuck with him. I was just waiting for you to say jail. You ready?

Ready? Man. You ain't got to take them big shots like that. You ain't got to do it like that. He's a big shot. Nah, pace yourself. That's what happens to everybody, man. They start off like that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't got to do it like that. You can pour yourself. You're family. Cool, cool, cool. I got off like that. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't got to do it like that. You can pour yourself. You're family. Okay, all right. Cool, cool, cool. All right, got you. Thank you.

Big L or big punt? Get my shot ready. That's a good one. You explain the rules? Oh, I did, huh? I don't know. Yeah, you did. Nah, okay.

I mean, did you? Yeah. You say both? You got to say both. You got to drink. That's a politically correct answer. If you say both, you got to drink? Yeah.

Both or neither? Both or neither. We got to drink. Oh, you damn niggas, you got to wait for us. We drink with you say both, you got to drink? Yeah. Both or neither? Both or neither. We got to drink. Oh, you damn, nigga. You got to wait for us. We drink with you. Oh, you drink with us? Yeah, I drink too.

Yeah, we drink too. Rest in peace to both of them. Yeah. Legends. Absolutely. Okay. Oof. Not bad, right?

KRS-One or Rakim? Rakim. You too? Rawr, rawr, like a dungeon dragon. I'm going to go Rakim too. KRS-One. Of course. Rakim.

I got a drink. Nah, man. That's okay. We made this up. We made that part up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's on the fly sheet. Yeah, yeah. My bad. My bad. I did try to teach y, man. That's okay. We made this up. We made that part up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's on the fly sheet. Yeah, yeah.

My bad. My bad. I did try to teach y'all. My bad. I'm sorry. People can see. They can see you, man. All right.

Ooh. Ooh, good one. Murder Mook or Loaded Lux? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Math motherfucking hop. We got a drink for that. We got a drink for that. We got a drink for that. We got a drink for that. We got a drink for that. Let them niggas know.

Math motherfucking hop. That was hard. That was hard. Dale, Chico. All right, Dale. Salud. Dale. Salud.

That shit tastes like it got lemon in it. Yeah, eventually this... All right. Okay, you got the next one. Eat. Let me see where we at. All right. Wu-Tang or NWA?

Wu-Tang. Yeah, that should be easy for New York. Yeah, Wu. Yeah. Yeah. We love California. Just want to put Yeah. Yeah. We love California. Just want to put that out there. We love California.

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Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Kanye or Andre 3000? Kanye. Kanye. Yeah, bro. Three stacks. You're not drinking, man. You're just making us drink, man.

You're not drinking, bro. Come on, man. You got to just go with what we say, man. No, no, he good now. You don't have to drink. Okay, cool. Did they tell you to play this game? All right, man. You're not drinking, bro. Come on, man. You got to just go with what we say, man. No, no, he good. No, you don't have to drink. Okay, cool. Did he tell you to play this game? It's everybody on the individual merit.

Did he tell you to play? You got it? Yeah. Okay, you go. Yeah, man. Fucking right. Oh, no, I got this one. No, I'm going to skip this one

to go to him. Go ahead, go ahead. The Sauce or XXL? YKTV Magazine. We just drink to that. Let's drink to that. I want to hear his answer. Keep it real high.

The sauce. The sauce? The sauce. Now, which sauce? The Benzino sauce or the Londell? The Londell McNillian sauce. Definitely the Benzino sauce. Oh, which sauce? The Benzino sauce or the Lawndale? The Lawndale-McNillan sauce. Definitely the Benzino sauce. Oh, that's what's up.

Benzino would like to get it. Definitely the Benzino sauce. Benzino would like to get it. Definitely the Benzino sauce. Shout out to Dave and Benzino. Yes. Yeah, shout out to Dave and Benzino. Heard they beefing.

Me too. What? I heard that too. Yeah. Okay. DMX or Tupac? Shit. DMX.

I'm going to go ahead and give my shot. DMX. I can just hear Flex calling me now. Because you're going to call Tupac? Yeah, take this shot. By saying that, you're saying Tupac. Yeah. Hey, listen to me.

Relax, buddy. You're not rolling up, brother. They've been drinking. He's been drinking all day. Pop. Pop? Yeah, pop. Pop?

Pop. DMX. I knew you. Both of y'all said DMX. DMX, right? Pop. Pop? Yeah, pop. Pop? Pop. DMX. I knew you. Both of y'all said DMX. DMX, right? Rest in peace. All right, I'm going to just take a shot for that. Rest in peace.

Yeah, let's take a shot for that. Yeah, I'm going to take a shot for that. Salud. Okay. I'm going to take this one. I'm going to jump over a couple, though. Your buttons are a million dollars worth of gain. My ex-whitter-pig. a couple with though. Joe Button's a million dollars worth of game. My experience.

I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready.

I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. That's a good answer. I like that.

I like that too. Shout out to Gilly. Shout out to Wallo. Shout out to Joe. Shout out to everybody in the space, man. There's room for everybody to win.

Yes. Rest in peace, Combat Jack. Yes. Rest in peace, Combat Jack. I don't know who you said that. I said that on the run. Rest in peace, Combat Jack. You know what? Let's take this to all podcasters because who would have thought

that people are hardly even listening to radio? Like, we kind of... Some of the people that wouldn't refuse to play my music, I refuse to interview them. Fuck them. Petty Gang Mafia. I got the juice now, motherfucker. I've been going crazy today, right?

I'm not humble at all. I got to calm down. Hey, while we're saying rest in peace, rest in peace Gangsta Boo as well, man. Rest in peace Gangsta Boo. You know what's crazy, man? I really... I got to calm down. Rest in peace Gangsta Boo as well, man. Rest in peace Gangsta Boo. You know what's crazy, man? I really... I can't believe that. It's crazy because we don't want to be the last

person to interview anybody, but when she passed away, when Takeoff passed away, people just kept going to our interview and it was just like, damn. It was crazy. This is why you should never listen directly to the internet or directly to the rhetoric that's happening. The week before, they critiqued us and said, drink chances for legends.

Migos ain't legends. And then, you know, unfortunately, his demise. That week, the next week after that, they was like, I'm so glad you got to give him any flowers. And it's just like Damn if I would have listened Right I wouldn't even Interviewed them because

Y'all said they're not legend Right And It's crazy So you just gotta What did you say Go with your opinion Unconsciously

Follow your conscience You also gotta consider the source The people who are talking That was a double entendre Right Sure Source Take it with you

Source You gotta consider the sauce. Not everybody who's talking has a resume to talk. Tony Ayo said something on the show. Shout out to Ayo. By the way, great episode. Tony Ayo, Uncle Murda.

Yeah. That was classic. He went at you. That was classic. I liked it. But he said, once I realized that I couldn't make everybody happy,

I felt liberated. And it's real. Because you'll get all different types of opinions. You just got to be comfortable with, okay, you're going to be mad? All right, I can live with that. You know what I mean? And what happened with Smith and Wesson? Smith and Wesson?

Yeah. That was Sean? That was you again? That was you again? What happened? What did you say? You said that they was down With Pock and them No they was offended

And misunderstood something I was telling them How we felt Guys me and your age Yes You know Maybe not you personally Yeah

But a lot of my peers At that time When that song dropped We What song Hit em up Hit em up Okay

We were affected in New York Uh huh Right We were hurt. I know people spend the narrative that he was talking about Biggie directly, but me and my peers and the guys in the street, we didn't hear it like that. We heard loud and clear it felt like you're coming directly out of New York. Right.

To my Tupac. Yeah. With those guys, I asked them, in the future, when y'all ended up at his house recording the albums, we kind of respectfully looked at you guys as traitors. Right. And that set it off. That was a 17-year-old mindset, though. When Biggie said it, I was like, lie That was a 17 year old Mindset though My biggest set it

I was like Oh this is a good one Let's see what happens I ain't gonna lie Your memory is so So sharp because I do remember And both of those brothers

Those are my brothers Mine too yeah And they legends Yeah mine too Much respect to them I do Much respect Love

I do remember Me being mad at them I do Much respect Love I do remember Me being mad at them For a week or two I remember I remember that And Buckshot I believe Buckshot And

I remember Let's go even deeper I remember being mad At Red and Meth I remember being mad At Red and Meth My mind made up I'm sorry

Also my brothers Got both of their Phone numbers They didn't even know though I remember being mad at Red and Matt. My mind made up. I'm sorry. Also, my brothers got both of their phone numbers. They didn't even know, though. But I didn't know that they didn't know. You didn't know that, yeah. You understand what I'm trying to say? So I felt exactly like that. I felt like, I remember me seeing Redman and Branson and just being like.

Like. He had his legs. I jumped in my legs And we just walked That was the first And I love Redman It was the first time And then

Then Method Man Got on the radio And I guess like It was spreading It was spreading like Yo man You know Cause that's the one thing

That we needed at that time You know I made LA LA I know I made LA LA And here's the crazy shit And I said it on your show I don't know if you remember Yes I know I made LA LA And here's the crazy shit And I said it on your show I don't know if you remember

Yes I said it on your show I saw the clip the other day Someone sent it to me Right But I remember making LA LA And bringing it to Big And Big saying nah

Don't do that We're not going to use this Right And like he told me to my face And I was just like And at the time I was too young To understand that he understood Who he was Right I didn't know that And he told me to my face. And I was just like, and at the time, I was too young to understand that he understood who he was. Right.

I didn't know that. And he was like, what they accusing me of, I didn't do that. So I ain't going to address it. And at the time, I was like, they just talked about your wife, my nigga. And they didn't use it. It was for a bad boy mixtape. Remember when Labels was doing mixtapes? Stretch Armstrong did it.

Those bad boy mixtape. Remember when Labels was doing mixtapes? Stretch Armstrong did it. Those Bad Boy mixtapes were legends. Yeah. And they didn't use it. And speaking on that time, like, if you guys at that time didn't make that song,

it was like, that was, you know what I'm saying? Y'all wasn't even dissing them, but just to make that song meant so much. Let me address that. Nobody in New York was saying nothing. You know what I'm saying? Thank you. Y'all wasn't even dissing him, but just to make that song. You know what's crazy? So much. Let me address that.

Let me address that. Nobody in New York was saying nothing. Let me address that. His what happened, Biggie, too. Listen, here's what happened, Sean. Listen, a friend of mine was on something called a DJ list. So remember the DJ list? They would give this before bootlegging.

This was before bootlegging. So he had the record two months prior to it dropping so what we did was we went to stretch armstrong crib and we was like are they dissing us and we understand yo b yo god we knew that was yeah so that's if you listen we were going back it was like we was saying whatever the fuck they were saying, whatever we said. So we didn't do this. We're talking about the Dog Pound record now. Yes. People are listening because we can say hit him up. We got to clear it up.

All right, my bad. You're right. Thank you. New York, New York. We did L.A., L.A. in response. So we purposely didn't. I'm going to say this story. So we purposely didn't say anything about L.A.

But Prodigy did. If you remember. He went straight. I'm going to say this story. So he purposely didn't say anything about L.A. But Prodigy did. Yeah. If you remember, He went straight. They took off. They took it off. He said,

JFK on my way to L.A. And he later used that verse on Live Nigga Rap with Nas. Yeah. But that verse was originally on L.A. L.A. Yeah. Wow. And then was crazy, was fucked up about that.

Prodigy said he did not want to be on the record. He did not want to be involved. And the day that we filmed L.A. L.A. And then was crazy, was fucked up about that. Prodigy said he did not want to be on the record. He did not want to be involved. And the day that we filmed the L.A. L.A. video, Hit Em Up came out. And he wanted to be involved, sir. He changed his mind that night. That nigga's been in the season since 3 o'clock and was in the video by 9. Word up. The same day.

I respect that. I respect that. Rest in peace. Rest in peace, Prodigy. Rest in peace, Prodigy. My favorite part is still when y'all threw the body off. See, we had to do that. We had no budget, by the way.

That was the worst looking budget. We had no budget. It was like an ironing board. Whoa, the French. It was a stiff body. It was a stiff body. You're a foul dead for a while. I didn't know he was a ironing board. Now that I think about it.

You're a foul nigga for remembering that. That'll let you know he a foul nigga. You remember it. It looked like an ironing board. I love it, though. I love it. You know I wasn't in that scene. Because it was broad daylight. I wasn't in that scene.

It was broad daylight. Bro, they on the bridge dumping a body looking around. There's mad cars driving by these niggas. We had no budget, man. I mean, I'll be looking at that video every now and then. I'll be like, thank God. I can see the hunger in my face. You can smell the food stamps on me there.

You can smell it. You can smell it. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Oh, we still have a quick time. I'm sorry. Mr. Lee is trying to kick us out. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Oh, we still have a quick time. I'm sorry. Mr. Lee is trying to kick us out. Yeah, he is.

All right. Biz Markie or ODB? ODB. Biz Markie or ODB? That's a tough one. That's a tough one. That's a tough one. That's a tough one.

That is a tough one. I ain't going to lie. You got it. Because they almost come to the same block. I said ODB. I said ODB I said ODB Yeah I said ODB Yeah

Bruh I would say O Dirty Bastard Definitely How about you Mac? Yeah ODB ODB

ODB Champ ODB Thin though Thin Thin Yeah very thin Rest in peace

Rest in peace I say I say ODB had onein though. Thin. Thin. Yeah, very thin. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. I say ODB had one of the illest personalities. I say that's why we got to protect our legends. Prior to him going to jail, it's probably the best personality we ever had in hip hop. If you see how he came home, I'm sorry to make it about ODB, but if you see how he came home,

that wasn't the same person. Definitely. It wasn't the same person. J, definitely not. It wasn't the same person. Yeah, it wasn't. Jail fucks people up, man. Is it jail? I don't know. I think being a rapper is way...

I think we all need therapy. Yeah, that's right. I think we all need to sit down. Maybe it's not therapy. We all need to sit down and to realize that we ain't each other's enemy. Like, we aren't enemies of each other.

We have to start taking care of each other because it's shit like that that shouldn't happen. Like when I seen ODB when he came back and God bless, because Rockefeller was trying to do the right thing. It's just that

they shouldn't have been involved in my opinion. They should have let ODB be ODB. They should have let ODB. And what happened is it made ODB kind of take a choice between family and money. Mm-hmm. And that's a bad choice. Choice, always.

It's a bad choice. I'm going to tell everybody, always pick family. Yes. Absolutely. Always pick family. The money will come. Yes. But maybe he's picking family by picking the money.

Money, exactly. Yeah. And everything we're saying is from the outside looking in, we really don't know what's going on. Yeah, we really don't know. But big them up, man. I got a chance to meet ODB. And I went to play Bismarck in the movie.

Remember they was doing the Juice movie? I went to play Bismarck. Oh, that's crazy. The Juice crew. Wow. I still would want to play Bismarck. The Juice Crew. I still want to play Bismarck. That was my first rapper who made me

laugh. Picking boogers. Picking boogers. Did he just say he picked a booger and put it on a basketball and then passed it? Holy shit, he's a genius. He made being a joker cool. He made it cool I'm in fucking dinner

With Daddy Kane I'm waiting for my bowels To move Yeah You didn't look at Vince Marquez as a sucker No But he's still

He could be funny Right I'm in dinner With Daddy Kane The other night And if you met him In person You know he working

And I was like What? Yeah Kane Yeah I was like I was so mad I didn't know Kane wrote Pickin' Bookers

But then the vapors. The vapors. By the way, to this day, something will happen. You'll be like, they go to the vapors. To this day. Depending on what circle you in, that'll pop. Oh, there's a lot of people catching the vapors now. Oh, God, yeah.

You got it. You got it. You got it. I'm going to get to that. Let's run through this real quick. Okay. Kiss or fad? Relax. Y'all hear that? Y'all hear that? Y'all hear that? Y'all hear that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to get to that. Let's run through this real quick. Okay, kiss or fag? Relax, Mr. Lee.

Mecca. What are you doing? He's trying to secure his relationship. I love how it feel like There's no video camera That's why I'm asking you He think we just an audio podcast Nah just go to another camera view We can see you

You go Kiss Right The verse is kind of Kiss I knew you was going to say that Kiss I don't think the verse is proven You know I knew you was going to say that Kiss I don't think the verse

Is proving You know That You know Tell that to Kiss Yeah I just think Fab picked The wrong records

Yeah he picked The wrong records I would say Fab Really Wow Overall Overall As an artist

Yeah as an artist Of a body of music If I'm driving I'm going to throw something in To listen to A three hour drive I'm going to I'm going to throw something in to listen to a three-hour drive. I'm going to definitely choose Fab. That's like, side of the doubt.

I'm going to say Kiss because Kiss is more personable. Kiss will sit down and talk to you. And tell you how to sell a crack. Yeah. I got a lot of things I've done that was the sound where Jadakiss was the soundtrack

to the shit that I did I might be biased I've never interviewed Fab but I've interviewed Jadakiss a couple of times damn Fab don't really do anything you need to take a shot for that

I might be a little biased you gotta take a shot for your man you gotta take a shot just for that yeah oh you ain't say nothing you said me no he ain't say nothing. Yeah.

He said me, though. No, he ain't say nothing. Yeah, yeah. Yo, but it's crazy, because I feel like... You can say both. I thought... You can say both. But then I still got to drink, right?

I mean, yeah. That's the game. I mean, we drinking with you, so... Take a shot, anybody. All right, I'm going to say both. All right. I'm going to say both. Take a shot?

Yeah. Take a shot? Yeah, yeah. We understand. Take a shot. Let me take a shot of this fine Delly-on. Delly-on. Delly-on's a whole other thing. That's a whole other deal, sir. Hey, that's a whole other deal.

And we are cool with Delly-on as well. Hey, Todd, you ain't got to go that crazy. No, you don't got to do that. You ain't got to do that. You don't hurt yourself doing that, man. Come on, come on. Hey, you're a professional. Facts.

These questions are like Dennis. Sorry, we know that's too much. Dennis does He a professional. Facts. These questions are like Dennis, Dennis does answers. Yes. Every question. That shit got a little more on in there. Raise it then. All right, here's a good one.

You ready? Yeah, you go. You take it. Dre or Puff? Dr. Dre. You said Dre or Puff? Dre or Puff. I gotta go Puff.

It's all right. I gotta go Puff. As a producer? As your future life after death being my favorite album of all time.

Okay. I know people would oh the chronic the chronic life after death was a masterpiece from beginning

to end. The chronic is not just the chronic it's the chronic. No no it is. And a sequence right.

This is a good debate right here. A double CD that you can play from start to finish. No, that's true. That's true. When was the last time we did that? You know what? I forgot about that, yo. I forgot about that.

No songs of the chronic. And look, look. If we're going to get technical, that he produced, Dre produced. But then I guess you could go We could do the same thing With the Hitman It's in the question We could do the same thing With the Hitman

This person or that person Yeah Puff and the Hitman So on the verses What do you have to say about Dre Because Dre Puff against Dre Also had people up

Yeah but I'm saying I'm saying both Right It's going to be crazy I'm just saying It's a tough one For you to answer that quickly But just off the strength

That Life After Death Is my favorite album Of all time I got to saying it's a tough one for you to answer that quickly. But just off the strength that Life After Death is my favorite album of all time, I gotta give it to Puff. I got to. How about you, Mecca? I don't know. I don't know. Their resumes, I mean, you start giving Dre credit for the NWA

work. If you put the tree of Dre? Yeah. And the tree of Puff is there too, but the tree of Dre. Did they ever make an album that was better than Life After Death? No, but Doggy Style is not a game. Doggy Style is not a game.

No, no. You gotta go with Mr. Love. Life After Death is Life After Death is a double album. I'm trying to think of a double album that's great. But It's For Life is... And it just didn't hit the same. Thank you. album I'm trying to say thank you how many and then there's like the Kendrick work nah nah nah love it love it I'm not saying anything. I'm stepping back.

You on some Ab Hobbit shit. No, that shit is a movie, bro. It's a movie. Oh, shit. Wait a minute. That album is a movie. Both. Drink. How about you, Joe?

Definitely pop. Definitely pop? All right. I need to hear your explanation. Because you got to, we can't ignore Mase. You know what I'm saying? Mase is the superstar of the game, you know, but that's... Let me stop you for one second.

Doesn't Mase only have one album? Isn't him and like Lauryn Hill the same? Nah. Oh yeah, that's right. My bad. My bad, Mase. Yeah, but niggas don't really fuck with the double up. I mean, if we go an album for album, the trees, I don't know, man.

That Drake tree is crazy. Niggas don't really fuck with the double up. With the double up, the main second album? But the original joint and No Way Out? Harlem World? You gotta count No Way Out. We could start early, D.O.C. E.Z.E. N.W.A.

Then you gotta go Heavy D. Then the Chronic. But I'm talking about as an artist involved? No, you're talking about as an A&R at that point. No, a producer. No, no, you're talking about as an anr at that point that's no a producer no no he wasn't get your favorite weed get your favorite weed smoke roll that shit up smoke it listen to life after death the whole shit nobody's debating you but life after death by the way no one's debating

you not one soul here yeah Yeah, we know that. If none of those albums are better than that. So you're giving 100% credit to Puff for Big's album? I'm not giving 100% credit. That's what we're talking about here. But if he was involved in an album that I feel like was the greatest album ever. He executive produced it. And that's your criteria, right?

Rick Ross, you know what I'm saying? The list goes on. But then there's the Kendrick work. Rick Ross. You know what I'm saying? The list goes on. Yeah. But then there's the Kendrick work. Rick Ross. That's cool, bro. That's cool. So as far as, see, that's the problem with this question is that it's too many other

nuances, right? Yeah. Well, that's why- Dr. Dre is more relevant as far as how many people worked there, how many albums that sold all crazy, how many records he actually produced with his fingers, right? Right, right, right. Puff is a great orchestrator.

He knows the talent. He knows how to find it, put it in the right setting, and make magic. Right. That's what Puff does, right? But it's too many factors, but I'm going to say Puff. If you're going to put the A&R part of it, Andre Harrell part of it, Uptown part of it, you have to. You have to.

Maybe. Because then you start taking into account Dr. Dre's influence over the entire West Coast. I'm not talking about influence because Puff has that influence as well. But that's my whole point. It starts to even out once we start with the wider you cast the net, they both have a lot of fish to catch.

And who you start asking about X, Y, Z, A, B, and C, it gets... Then maybe the question we should be asking, who today are the children of them specifically? That's a long list. Yeah, that's a whole other list. That are relevant right now. That's a whole other show. It's active right now. You know what?

The children. What artists right now are active right now that are directly under the umbrella of them? That are relevant right now? Nobody even gave 50 Cent. But you got to understand. 50 Cent? Partly Dre's credit has to go to Eazy. Come on.

No, no, no, no, no, no. That's a reach. No, no, no, no, no. How is that a reach? What do you mean? Without Dre, there is no Eazy Eazy. Without Eazy Eazy, there's no Dre. Absolutely. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Rest in peace Eazy and rest in peace Andre Harrell as well. Are we moving on or is the show going to keep going? World class record crew. I got this as a y'all joke all day. World class record crew.

Yeah, oh man, we could go even further back. We could wear sequins out there. What's your favorite podcast? Who? What's your favorite podcast? My expert opinion. Stamp, niggas! Stamp!

We stamped in these shits. Take a shot for that. Take a shot for that. Take a shot for that. What are we doing? Who are we kidding? We know what we're doing. We know what we're doing. We know what we're doing. We know what we're doing! We stamped in these shits. Take a shot for that. Take a shot for that.

Take a shot for that. What are we doing? Who are we kidding? We know why we're here. Shout out to Easy Mo B. Oh, yeah, absolutely. For all the work on both sides. That's crazy.

He's probably the only producer that kept working with both of them. Not only did he work with both of them, but kept working during the beef. Yeah, because Me Against the World is my favorite Pac album. Shout out to Easy Mo B. Shout out to Easy Mo B.

I drank my beer. You drank yours already? I drank it already. We don't believe you, man. We don't believe you. Listen, the fans will kill you. You know what I'm saying? No, listen.

Trust me. The fans will kill you. Take your shot. Take your shot. Trust me. Trust me. Who saw it? Who saw it?

He saw it. We ain't see it. It doesn't count. It's a regular occurrence. Us four here at the game, you ain't see it. Come on. And we're celebrating you today. We're celebrating you and your team.

You and your team. And by the way, you know the top is a shot, too. I really thought you was setting me up. No, I'm setting you up. Yeah, I thought Puff was going to run out here with a contract. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. Hold up, hold up.

Puff, come here. That's a deal. That's a deal. Take that, take that. Oh, Champ just went to the bathroom. Take that, take that. He went to the bathroom trying to avoid his shot. He got something for his ass.

We're going to wait. We do got to say something. Y'all had a podcast waiting for a podcast today? Right. Y'all were late today? Y'all were late. I can't believe it. As a podcast? By the way, let me just tell you something. It's a retro Y'all had a podcast waiting for a podcast today? Right. Y'all were late today? Yeah, y'all were late. I can't believe it. As a podcast?

By the way, let me just tell you something. It's a retrograde. You think that it's acceptable? It's a retrograde. Let me tell you something. It's a retrograde. The first podcast we had, Mav, he showed up early. He had sweatsuits.

He was. He helped the team set up the mic. He was helping the team set up the mic. You know he getting some money right now, boy. Hey. He's missing flights. That's some rich nigga shit. He said, I missed my flight.

I said, that's some rich nigga shit. I got the helicopter now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, but yo, damn, I wish Champ was here. I'm going to take this shot for him. Nah, I'm really, really proud of you guys. Nah, man. The reason why

is the show kept its realness. It switched a little bit, but it kept the main integrity. The main integrity. And I like the fact that y'all arguing now.

I like the fact that, no, because it makes for great. It makes for great. You got to realize. You got to realize. You got to realize. Yo, Big N Champ got into it last episode. That ain't my head yet, bro.

Hold on. That's my big homie right here. I don't want to see these guys. Take your shot. Take your shot. You got your shot? You got your shot? You got to pour.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, because this is for y'all. Let me just tell y'all something. Look, pour your shot, and I'm going to give y'all a great speech because. And I'm going to give y'all a great speech because... And I'm going to give y'all a great speech. Yeah, because I know how hard it is to survive, to be... You know, podcasting is like being in Costco's, right? Everyone can have their product in Costco's. But if you got your shit behind the deer's, the deer meat...

I love it. You need to have your shit where the ugly lady says, Welcome to Costco's. Right. And your shit is right there in front. You know the ugly lady that smoked too much cigarettes? Right, right. She smoked 900 cigarettes.

She's 900. And she's like, yo. 900. And she's like, welcome. Costco lady taking a straight for no reason. Yeah, I mean, you know. That's why she's doing her job right now. Yeah, but you know I'm talking about

the woman with the harsh voices. Oh, we should edit that part out? No. The lady there, she looked like she smoked too much cigarettes. No, he should just remember that when he goes to Costco.

That's true. So what I'm trying to tell y'all is we have been 100% independent podcast. We know how it feels. We know how it feels to go up against these others. We know how it feels to be recognized and not be recognized. Rob Markman, Right. To be loved and then people get mad and shaded.

We know everything that y'all going through is crazy because whether it is direct or indirect, we've been through. And for me to see y'all growth, for me to see how this shit came together, for me to see how y'all keeping it tight it's something i wanted just it's my idea i called man if i said yo i want y'all i want the crew yeah we had you dolo we had you um but i want i want i want to give it to y'all it's not it's not sorry it's not just about you right because i see i think you you know but it's it's about y'all it's about y'all com camaraderie oh you know i'm a little saucy camaraderie yeah you, you know, but it's about y'all. It's about y'all camaraderie. You know I'm a little saucy now. Camaraderie.

Yeah, you know what I mean. I'm knowing. I can't pronounce my own name. Right. You know what I mean? Salute. Right. But I want to salute y'all, say respect.

Salute. Continue to do y'all thing. For that one. Yes. Are you going to take it? Are you going to take it? Okay. Hell yeah.

Hell yeah. What do you want to drink? Oh, no. Go with the tongue. He's like the contract. Come on. What do you want to drink? Oh, no. He's like the contract. Come on. Nah, for real. Because, Salou, and what's crazy is your personality.

Salou. Cheers. Respect. Thank you. Respect. It's your personalities. The fact, I knew the show was going to change for the better. Because of Mecca, right? And I want to give you your flowers direct because- Oh, man.

These are all street guys. Don't cry, bro. Everyone else is like a street guy. I'm not saying you're not a street guy. We know you- No, I'm not a street guy. But you know what I'm trying to say. He's comfortable with that. But I know you have an expert opinion. You actually.

Are an expert. Are an expert. I think out of all of us here, I think you're probably the only expert. I'm like, and that should be saluted. That should be saluted. Because I've always, you know, prior to this, I've always done interviews with you, and I've always been a fan of you and how you handled me.

You know what I mean? How you treated me, whether it was when I was coming up, whether when I was in the medium era, or whether it was. And how hard is that? Because these relationships, how hard is it to maintain that here? It's not hard? No, it's not hard no it's not i don't i don't make it just don't hang with us after after the show that's how he that's how he he out whatever you're about to get into i ain't a part of it okay get home safe

get lost it's not it's not a difficult thing man i learned early on the job is the job and it's not a difficult thing. I learned early on, the job is the job. And it's not about you. It's not about me. It's about the person who picks up the magazine and decides they want to know more about this person's life. My job is to paint that picture and make it as honest as possible and make it entertaining. The reason why we have such a good thing going over here is because all of those factors come into play. We make it entertaining. He's going to say what he's going to say. It's going to be real.

Even if it's wrong, he really means it. He's telling the truth. His truth. Exactly. And how can you ever be mad at anybody who's telling it? Now, the consequences are going to come down, but I'm used to that. I've done that already. No, we weren't going to.

It's definitely a unique experience. It's the first time I've ever been a part of anything like this. Right. I'm happy to move off of print and do this here. But make no mistake, I've been built for this a long time ago. It's not as rugged as what people may think it is. Right. And I knew that.

I remember when the podcast started, right, yelling at heat makers and shit. Yeah, facts right and i knew that i remember when the podcast started right yelling at heat makers and yeah i knew and i knew that i remember when the first time you came on the show i was like yeah oh you was a guest on the show first you got to keep it first yeah no i didn't know that no i wasn't called to be a host i was called he somebody backed out he's a homie he called me yo can you pull up? I know, Megan. Shout out to EO Dubb, one of the longest one of the open mics in New York City. And rest in peace.

Rest in peace. Vice versus. Vice versus. Rest in peace. Jay, rest in peace. So many people. Yeah, we can go all down that street. Jay Arch.

Absolutely. So many. Jay Arch, punk ahead? Yeah. Yeah, rest in peace um so i know mecca from that environment and i and another thing i want to say yo open mics need to come back yeah yeah where we're missing where you just rhyming yeah yeah ain't that like your craft ain't that um i think inori's such a legend you don't even know what an open mic is that's what they doing right now karaoke yeah no man this ain't karaoke it's probably close to the stand-up open mics if you could you could relate it

you could relate it close to that to someone who doesn't understand but that was that that makes but that was the space where you honed your craft, where you saw guys rocking that stage, and you said... What was it? The Jay-Z, the Mayfield? She's... The lady... What was Shorty's name? 22-2's intro.

Oh, oh, oh. Fuck me. He knows. Yeah, just because I'm... Pause, pause, pause. No. Yeah, pause. And we still on QuickTime and Slime.

We forgot it. Oh, I can't remember her name. But I know the... Go ahead. I know the... Yeah, of course. And we still on QuickTime and Slime. We forgot it. Oh, I can't remember my name. But I know that. Go ahead. I know this kid. Yeah, that's fucking me up. I don't know that. He wants to look it up now.

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That's where Hovindham used to go. And we had something like that similar in Queens called the Q Club. I remember the Q Club. Yeah, the Q Club. Got shot at at the Q Club. Yeah, you got shot at at the Q Club? Being from Brooklyn. A lot of people got shot at at the Q Club.

I shot at it there. Maria Davis. Maria Davis. Maria Davis. Maria Davis. Rest in peace. But yeah, EOW, end of the week, that was the spot where every sunday i used to go through wait on that line sign up get on that list to get on that stage whether it was freestyle i was

performing a song or whatever and mecca would be in the spot and i did that for years for years and that's where i know mecca from um the source stuff i didn't i wasn't really too familiar he wasn't a fan he wasn't familiar with that thank you it's xeno's fault for that xeno's fault really it is xeno's fault when i decided not to diss eminem he took away the unsigned height from me wow so i was like been a petty yeah much. Shout out to Zeno though. I hope dad is doing okay and all that shit. But when Mech came on the show, I was like, okay, he's a historian. You know what?

Let's finish Quick Time with Simon and then I want to get to everything. Yeah, fuck me. Come on, let's finish. No, no, no. Come on, man. Wait, wait, wait. He's a historian. We can't stop there. He's a historian. No, no, we can't stop there. I want to get to why. I want to get to why.

And that's history. I want to get to why, but I want to finish quick. But him being a historian and somebody who cares so much about the culture, I say, yo, nah, he has to stay. No, he breathes and lives. He has to stay. I don't think I've ever had a conversation with Mecca that doesn't involve hip hop. Right.

I don't think I've ever. Not true. The day I introduced you to Bonshawn Chicken, we doesn't involve hip-hop. Right. I don't think of... Not true. The day I introduced you to Barnshon Chicken, we didn't talk hip-hop. Oh! Damn! You know Barnshon Chicken loves you! There it is.

There it is. There it is. Oh, yeah. I'm not gonna lie. We didn't talk nothing about music. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. That Barnshon, I ain't gonna lie. That's the...

Yo, I ain't gonna lie. Bro, you're orienting yourself into a comedy. I can't even... I ain't gonna lie. Yo, I ain't gonna lie. Bro, he oriented himself into a comedy. I can't even tell you because this might sound crazy. Don't say it. I ain't gonna say it. You ain't gonna leave it alone? You ain't gonna leave it alone.

Okay, Scarface or Ice Cube? Scarface. Oh. Shit. Damn. Cube. Yeah. Oh Shit Damn Q Yeah he's going Q You said Q I said Scarface

I said Scarface From the womb to the tomb A hot pot of jaw and spoon Trying to make me 40,000 and move Scarface Today was a good day It's 2 and two, so technically

I should make y'all drink, but it's okay. No, that's not the way it works. Oh, maybe. You stay trying to... Hey, man. That's his job. Y'all came late.

My night is already ruined. Thank you very much. You got it? Oh, yeah. Yo! MTV Raps or Rap City? I love this one. Video Music Box. Video Music Box. Drink music box. Woo!

Video music box. Rap McDaniels. Shout out to Rap McDaniels. Shout out to Rap McDaniels. Damn. We need Rap McDaniels on Big Chance. He's the father of that shit. One time.

He's the father of that shit. Yo, by the way, did you see? Queens get the money. Yo, did you know that Rap McDaniels was only second to Oprah? Wow. I didn't know that. Word? The ratings?

The ratings. He was only second to Oprah? Wow. Word? The ratings? The ratings. He was only second to Oprah. So how does that not continue? Like, how does that not transition to something bigger for him? Ralph McDaniels is single-handedly responsible for the spread of hip-hop. Absolutely.

But how was that not able to go to another level? Because they wanted to reproduce. Wait a minute, wait a minute. You can't be saying all that and you ain't watching the documentary. No, I started watching it. No, the documentary's still. Yo, listen, it's so good, and what's so dope about it is you get to see Nas fan the fuck out.

He's just like, he's not Nas at all. He's just a fan. A fan, yeah. He's breaking Nas at all He's just a fan Of like And he's breaking it down He remembered the intro He's like Remember the intro Da da da da da da da da da da da

And you're from New York City Come on come on And you're my age You gotta take a shot for that You gotta take a shot For Ralph McDaniels And you from New York City Give a shot to Ralph McDaniels

If you from New York City And you my age You know And you know. And you know what's crazy about it? It was the Disney afternoon until Batman came out. Then Batman came out at 4.30. But right at 5 o'clock, you went straight to Channel 31. Oh, in Queens, it was 3.30, I thought.

Nah, it was 5 o'clock. 5 o'clock. It might have been 5 o'clock. No, I was thinking about the box. But the box was on 25. And the box is in Miami. All right. Hey, man.

I got to bring it back. And Drink Chats is in Miami, baby. We just shot that, sir. Ralph and Danny's from Queens. Let's go. Ralph and Danny's from Queens. Yeah. Queens get the money.

And we need Uncle Gary and Uncle Gary Chats. And we got to give him his flowers for sure. You ain't got to go crazy. Listen, first time I saw Ralph, I fanned out. Salud. Cheers, guys. And I was like, Uncle Ralph. And he looked at me.

He was like, laugh. I said, oh, shit. You was hype. You was hype. I said, oh, shit. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You do a little dance.

Like, oh, shit. Just so you know who I am. Yo, he was like, yo. Do you understand? That's what it's all about. At the end of the day, that's what it's about. God, oh, shit. This nigga know what I am. Yo, he was like, yo. Do you understand? That's what it's all about. At the end of the day, that's what it's about. Goddamn, he getting. That feels great.

Yeah. Yeah. All right, this is a great one. I'm going straight to you, Michael. No, no, hold on. Sorry, I cut your story off. Finish your story. No, no, no, no.

He was like, man, if I saw what you did with that Iron Solomon situation, I was masterful. I was like. Thank you, sir. That was a dope stamp. You ever heard of Mooka? Ever battle? Mooka never battle me. He would never battle me, sir. That was a dope stamp. You ever heard of Mooka? Mooka never battled me. He would never battle me, bro.

Why? Should we finish Quick Time with Slime and come back to this? Yeah, let's finish Quick Time with Slime and come back to this. Okay. Where we at? Going straight to you, Mecca. Eminem or Busta Rhymes? Bust. Bust. Math. He ain't been on the show yet, though. He has Eminem or Busta Rhymes Bust Bust

Math He ain't been on the show yet though He has Eminem But you shouted us out So Alright Okay What's the fact

I'ma go M with this one Oh He's never come on the show now What's the fact What's the fact That's a tough one You know Well shout outs to both of them That's a tough one That You know, shout outs to both of them.

That's a tough one. That's one of those epic ones. You say both, you got to drink. Oh, we got to drink. I would say Eminem. Yeah. Wow. You the tiebreaker right now.

Wait, who is it again? Eminem or Busta? Busta. Busta. Eminem or Busta? Busta. Eminem. So three to one? It is. If I could vote, I'm voting Busta.

And it's actually easy to vote Busta because you can say without one, there's no other. But we know you're close with Busta. That's right. I'm not going to lie, though. Hold on, real quick. I'm not going to lie. That Calm Down record on Ext not gonna lie to hold on. I'm not real quick. Yes. I'm not gonna lie that calm down record smell

I'm on extinction level event. Um to note Buster Was retarded I never understood what I should never got no radio played that shit was retarded But when it comes to m being that I'm a battle rapper. Yeah. Em has to be on your show. Let's move on.

Let's move on. He has to be. He has to. I have to talk to Em. He's going to come here first and then go. But he has to be on your show. It's not wherever you at. You don't have to drink, bro.

You don't have to drink, bro.. You don't have to drink, bruh. New York is closer to Detroit than Miami. We can make mocktails, bruh. We good. I literally had this argument with Royce Fabna all the time. We go back and forth. And I tell him, my guy will scrape your guy. So get your guy and let's figure it out.

For the verses. On the verses. We were actually the only people that was talking about Eminem versus Busta for the verses. That's hard. I think that would be incredible. That should be great. I'm so for it. And the world would stop.

The whole world would stop. That fucking fast spitting, go crazy. I'm so for it. The whole world would stop. That fucking fast spitting, go crazy. I'm so for it. The whole world would stop. They got to go back and forth with that. But Busta, the thing about it is, Em is a beast on stage, and he's a beast in lyrics. And what, and Busta's not?

But Busta is in it. You know, Busta's in it. Busta's in the Guinness World. Busta is the stage. He's in the Guinness. Can I finish? He's in the Guinness. There's nothing like Busta on stage.

Absolutely, man. When you say was, what happened? Twister. Twister. Twister's the fastest in the world record. Shout out to Twister. Move on. Or homie from Fushnikins.

I think he might have. Chip. Chip Foo. Shout out to Chip Foo. I'm going to go to you. Back and forth. Because I know you're going to let Brooklyn rule. And then I'm going to go to you because I know you're going to rule and then you I'm gonna you cuz I know you're gonna let Queens rule MOP or mob deep hmm it depends on

what type of activity to get into just say both man no you're getting into just wrapped on a Havoc beat. How you going to do this? You better take a shot, then. This is some crazy shit. Because the Brooklyn in you ain't going to just let you walk over here. Yeah, I can't, bro. Brooklyn's going to...

You're not going to say MVP? I got a Havoc beat. It sounds like a shot to me. I got a whole bunch of them. I got a whole bunch of them. Sounds like a dilemma. So I like both. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like both. I'm in, I'm in. Don't even pick Sounds like a dilemma. I like both. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I like both. I'm in, I'm in. Don't even pick. Don't pick. I'm done. Mechanic's only killers in the $100 bill is. It's a real nigga who ain't got no feelings. Mobb Deep.

He's picking Mobb Deep. Yeah. Come on now. I love both of them, but you can't compare M.O.P. Body of Work to Mobb Deep. Mobb Deep is definitely better. Wow. Okay.

That's true. M.O.B.B. Okay, sounds definitely better than that. Wow, okay. That's true. M-O-B-B. Okay, sounds like... M-O-B-B. I can understand. All right, cool. But M-O-B, come on. Fame, I love you.

We love Fame. The energy that M-O-B brought to the game. That's awesome. That back and forth. Brownsville, the hill is really hurt. By the way, I've seen Fame and Dance at the BET Awards. Man, you guys are looking good. You guys are, you know.

Fame is in the gym every day. I want y'all to know that we want to give you our flowers. Please, please. We're going to go so hard this year because it's really about those legends. Bring the mashup party over here. Yes. I love you, Nori. Salute.

Salute. I love you, Nori. Salute. Salute. I love you, Nori, but they come, they come into me first. No problem. I don't mind. I guess what?

I'm gonna watch it too. Yeah. And I'm gonna, I'm gonna, and we support it and we'll repost it. And I do the same thing. Yeah. I love you guys.

Major or independent? Independent. Mecca. Major. Major? With the Bs? Wow. With the Bs.

This don't make no sense. I'm making some noise for you. Come on, Mecca. The fade. I would go independent, but if you're dealing with the right major, that you have a proper relationship. You have your own ownership, bigger. The fade. I would go independent, but if you're dealing with the right major, that you have a proper relationship. You have your own ownership, right. Yeah, exactly, relationship with, then a major.

Right. Okay, that's my answer. Which is what I've always told you. Yeah, that's what I've always said. I would say the beauty of independence for the simple fact of when you look at different platforms that are independent, artist-wise, podcast-wise, my expert opinion being number one,

you don't really want nobody over you telling you what to do in any way, shape, or form. You won't be able to count your own dollars to a certain extent. But that's not really a problem. And control your creativity. You know what? The perfect way to put this

is I don't think anyone should reach towards the major until you find out what you can do independently. That's fine. You have to be great at being independent so you can take advantage

of a major. Major, exactly. So the major doesn't take advantage of you. Anybody here talking smart shit? You can talk smart too. Stop that bullshit. Hey, we just did all smart. Look at y'all pass seven.

It's my expert opinion. That was hard. That was like everyone's opinion. I mean, I truly did. I enjoyed it. Okay, last question we ask everybody. I enjoyed it. Okay. Last question. We asked everybody. Quick time slot.

And this has not been quick. It's not. Not quick with time. Loyalty or respect? Loyalty. Because you can't have loyalty without respect You can't You can respect somebody and you can stab them in the back That's how much you respect them

You know what I mean? Like, oh, this motherfucker, nah, he gonna tear me up I'm gonna stab him in the back You know what I mean? But When you got loyalty That's everything That's everything

Loyalty creates kingdoms. It creates countries. It creates movements. Respect. It's a part of loyalty. It falls under that umbrella. So I'm going. Respect.

Because I've never been able to be loyal to anybody I didn't respect. Ever. I've never been able to be loyal to anybody I didn't respect. Ever. I've never been able to. If I can't respect what you do, how you treat people, how you move, how you act, I can't be loyal to that. But doesn't that mean that to be loyal to someone, you have to respect them? No, I cannot be loyal to someone I don't respect. But are there people you respect that you're not loyal to? I don't have any ties to them.

Let me say it this way. First of all, I respect Shorty's head, but I ain't loyal to it. You know what I mean? I don't think you care. That went sideways. I respect the quality of the box. I mean, I get it. I get it.

I respect the quality of the box. That is not what he said. I think that's a different kind of respect. But you did what I'm saying. You like the head. You don't respect it. You like it. Nah, I respect it.

You like it. You might even love it. However, again, I've never been able to show loyalty to somebody I didn't respect. If you're doing shit that I can't respect, if you're doing disrespectful shit or shit that I don't see, if you're not an upstanding, just being a fuckboy and shit, I can't be loyal to that because I don't respect you. I don't respect what you do. If I see you treat somebody close to you really, really fucked up, I'm going to be loyal to that. All right.

So when a low... Those are flowers. Don't fuck this up. So when somebody who's stepping into the podcast And they're really in the dirty section of YouTube Hey man get your life together They're really in the dirty section of YouTube And they start taking shots

The filthy shot They want to get dirty so they're going to be like Yo Mech is this Mech is that You could respect it But that don't mean that it could get you lost No I can't you popping shit from behind the screen. I don't respect you about that. What the fuck is respectable about that? Yo, Mecca's a martial

artist. Did you know that? He look like he gonna kick somebody. Tonight. Tonight, somebody's gonna kick you something. I've been trying to get this nigga to do a roundhouse on camera forever. Listen. How about you? Loyalty or respect?

I would go with respect. Respect? Yeah. And the reason why I go with respect, something slightly similar to what Mecca said, but a little different. I could be loyal to something that I don't respect. It could start out the same way,

and they are very similar, but at some point Someone could be loyal to you That have lost respect for you How? How can you be loyal Without respect for you? If I don't respect you

I don't have to be loyal to you What conforms you to stay loyal If you don't respect them? Because a lot of people Money? A lot of people are loyal to the opportunity and not the person. See, that's why I'm different.

I don't give a fuck how much money you got. I don't give a fuck what you give it to me. If I don't respect you, I don't respect you. Simple. Can you even describe

that as loyalty, though? Sure. I don't think so. Oh, hold on. Hold on. No, no, no. This is how you know shit is real.

We've been in this business for a long time. My Apple Watch just hit me and said, you're a loud invite. You're loyal to the opportunity. Listen, no, no. This is how you know shit is real. We've been in this business. My Apple Watch just hit me and said, you're a loud invite. But you're loyal to the audience. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. It don't have to be as complicated as we make it.

Yes. Husband and wives get married every day. Right. That's the same exact thing. Somewhere on the line, your husband or your wife is going to watch you. And according to your ways, your characteristics, and things that you show them, they could lose respect for you.

But they are going to stay loyal to you because of who they are. So you're picking loyalty? No, no, no. It's respect. He said, which one do you want more? It's respect. Because someone who respects you

is going to be loyal to you. I ain't gonna lie. Someone who respects you is going to be loyal to you. That's when it comes in the same. But someone who is loyal to you don't have to respect you. People get up and go to a job

every day that they're loyal to and be like, fuck this job. And don't respect the job. But they are loyal to and be like, fuck this job and don't respect the job, but they are loyal to the job. I want respect. I give it up. And we giving it to you right now.

Listen, listen, listen. I'm taking a shot, I'm taking a shot. I'm taking a shot, I'm taking a shot. Give us a shot, you're losing out. I got five from every job I was ever at. Well, if he's taking a shot, then I'm taking a shot. I respect that. And now you. Lord, to your respect, champ.

So I'm going to say respect, right? Okay. So I'm going by the dictionary version. Right? The dictionary version. Right? The dictionary version of respect is a feeling of deep. We're going to the books now? Yeah, hell yeah. Fuck that.

We're going to the foundation of it. You know what I mean? It's in Google. So it's not just a piece of paper. Google is your friend. Let's go. Let's go. Respect is a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities,

qualities, or achievements. And what's loyalty? And loyalty means a strong feeling of support or allegiance. That's it. That's as far as it goes. The dictionary fucked my whole ass up. Fuck that shit up. So now, at first I was in agreement.

We know what loyalty means. We know what it is amongst us, but my thing is, at first I was in agreeance with math. I'm like, yeah, loyalty. You know what I'm saying? My wife is loyal. My fiance is loyal to me, right? She held me down my whole bed.

You know what I'm saying? But sometimes she's so crazy. Does respect stop you from snitching? Sometimes she's so crazy out of mouth, but where's the respect at? Right. I thought you respected me. Right.

You making this too personal right now. I'm just saying. That's what that, because he used that example of my husband and wife. Hold on. I got to ask you a question. Does respect stop you from snitching? Wait, what?

Wait. I don't care. Does respect stop you from snitching? Respect for the code? Does respect stop you from snitching or does loyalty stop you from snitching? What's more important, respect for the code or loyalty to the code? Both, bro. Because if I respect you, I'm going to be loyal to you. That's all I'm saying.

Hold on. I'll give you a good example, right? I respect every man in this room. I don't know everybody in this room. I respect y'all brothers. I respect everything y'all doing because y'all showed results. Right? Y'all have done things that I have not done yet.

I'm still learning. And y'all have set the standard. Thank you. Right? I respect that. Am I loyal to you guys? Right. You don't know us.

You don't know us. Yes. Right. Yeah. I get that. So here's where I'm going. People fuck up. People fuck up People fuck up Right

Fuck up people And sometimes You don't respect the fuck up But staying loyal That's more important bro People fuck up People fuck up If your loyalty is that thin

That somebody fucks up once And your loyalty is that thin that somebody fucks up once and your loyalty's out, you were never really loyal. But can you respect the fuck up? I can, of course. You can respect the fuck up. Bro. Yeah, people fuck up.

Fuck up. I got my fuck up. That's normal. That's life. People fuck up. If you lose respect with me because I fucked up, I'm not flawless.

Of course I respect. I respect the fact that you fucked up and then you hold up to it. That's why I say loyalty because nobody's perfect. I'm not flawless. Of course I respect. I respect the fact that you fucked up and then you hold up to it. That's why I say loyalty because nobody's perfect. I might fuck up. So loyalty,

what you're saying, what you're saying. Right, exactly. Like today, you fucked up. But I won't lose respect. You know, man? You might not respect me

at four in the morning when I'm twisted coming out the club and the shit that I'm doing is just... I'll still respect you. I'll just be judging. I'll still judge.

Yeah. But I respect... I'm serious, man. The loyalty... All I'm saying is that I don't think you can separate the two. No, you really... You can't separate those two. That's why we say...

That's why we ask this question is because to us, to me and EFN, that's the only time you should drink. It should say both. It should always say both. It should be hand in hand. To us. I can dig it. That's to us. I respect that answer. There's no real loyalty without respect. There's no real respect without loyalty. I respect that.

I get it. I get it. You could have respect from a distance to an adversary that you say, damn, that dude is fucking wild, but I respect his game. But is that really respect? Yeah. That goes back to the whole editing thing too, right? Right.

So like, you have a loyalty to a buster. You have a loyalty toward Fat Joe. Yep. Right? And I'm going to keep it. Mecca doesn't have a certain loyalty because when it comes to work, it's work. I'm not a fan of your work.

I'm here to do a job. I'm loyal to the job. You're loyal to the job. I'm loyal to the craft. So why you a job. I'm loyal to the job. You're loyal to the job. I'm loyal to the craft. So why you pick respect if you loyal to the job? But he respects the morality or the guidelines of that job. There's a code that come with it.

That's what he's respecting. That's why I won't tell due to loyalty, bro. Right, but it's loyalty. It's both. It's both for him. Really, it's both. Listen, man, don't tell on me. All right, fine. I'll drink more. Don't tell on me. That's all I'm telling you Fine I'll take the shot Without a reason

Alright Cheers Salud Cheers For no god damn reason Oh I gotta sip it Cause it's hot I'm gonna tell you

Whatever this is right here This shit is smooth And I'm not even drunk Let me ask y'all a question Like God I'm in God For. Let me ask y'all a question. Like God, I'm in. God. For those that believe in a creator.

Okay. Which one? God. Whichever one you want. Whatever God you want. That's why I made that broad, you know. To speak to those who believe in different things. What would you think your creator would want?

Loyalty or respect? And this is why I was right. Religiously, I think it would always be loyalty. You think your creator would want loyalty? Yeah. So then if that is the case, if he want loyalty, why wouldn't he just made everybody to be loyal? Why is there a choice? I think if he made us to be loyal, we wouldn't be asking this question.

He wants us to be loyal in our own accord. He's saying, motherfucker, you better just do it because... But how does a person become loyal? I think we're chasing our tails at this point. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. The point that's being made is that the creator wants you to respect him.

If he wanted you to be loyal, he would have just made you loyal in a robot. He puts you in life to understand all the, everything that you go through in life. But puts you in life to understand everything that you go through in life. But that's assuming the creator even has the understanding. And they say, I want you to believe in one God and one God only. That's kind of a really selfish

thing. No, but we're saying this on the premise that the creator's saying that respect and loyalty is a thing. Empowerment. The creator might not think that this is a thing. If you're dealing with the creator of the scripture, it actually speaks so much. No, no. Okay.

Well, that's why I said which creator. Right. Because each religion has their own version. That's why I asked you, which God? You know what I'm saying? Whichever God. That's why I asked you specifically. If we're talking biblical, then yes, I understand where you're coming from.

All right. So I'm going to change the subject for a second. We can't wait in too deep. Murder Mook? You on Murder Mook? No, because that would be pointless for me. That would be pointless for me. Are you sure?

Bruh, from the beginning of this shit, I was the realest nigga in this shit, bro. No, it's not about real. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I need you to know what was going on. Okay, that's good.

I would like to. Battle rap was cool until Matt Hoffa came. It was cool. Until you came? Yeah, them niggas stared at it. Oh, that's cute. They're dissing each other. That's cute. But when I came on the scene, it was intense.

It was, ooh, what are they going to talk about? What's going to happen? What's going to be revealed? What's going to be? You know what I mean? It became something else. And as much as, you know, shout out to Mook for his contribution to the culture and how he still, you know, is in control of that area.

But, bruh. You seen his battle recently? If you don't believe what a nigga's saying, it's just entertainment. But when you believe, nah, that nigga really do that shit, it's different. You feel the pressure. Right. You feel the pressure. You dig what I'm saying?

And that's why I feel like none of them niggas can fuck with me, period. Ever in life. Ever in life. Ever in life. You got to think about something, bro. I'm thinking about it. Right? I've looked at battle rap, right? I'm a jail nigga.

I'm the resident jailologist. You know what I mean? I'm the resident jailologist. That's an L-turn. I'm the resident jailologist. Right? Unfortunately. But when you look at... Every episode, I'm the resident geologist, right? Unfortunately. But when you look at, if you look at results, you look at results in comparison to what was happening at the time, then you can make a sound decision on your own.

Look at the results. Look at the escalation of shit. Right? Factually, fuck how I feel. Fuck that. I'm not being biased because I work with math. Nah.

Look at the results. So why didn't they never bow? Because they're scared. This nigga elevated. He elevated, bro. He was scared. No, while I was there, they were scared.

When I left, I'm out of there The fuck I need to talk to you niggas for Whole nother frequency bro Yeah it's different It's different You don't really gonna say too much You don't understand what I'm saying I think it's gonna happen

It's not gonna happen bro I guarantee you So y'all spoke Y y'all was in like... Bro. He was on the show. I seen him on the show. Yes. Pulled him to the side and said...

It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. Not because of you. This nigga don't respond. It's not. It's never been... Yo, I stepped into this shit. I stepped into this shit calling the niggas out.

One of the top mobs. Yeah, T-Rex. T-Rex, right? T-Rex. And that was the start of URL. So everything that you see as far as URL and Smack and all, that started with me and T-Rex. If we didn't hit, if we didn't do four million views on Worldstar in two days, that might not exist. But shout out to Smack because he gave me a look

before that. You know what I mean? Shout out to T-Rex also. But it's just different. When a nigga, I, damn, how can I put it? If Murder Moog is Floyd Mayweather,

who are you in battleground? If Murder Moog is Floyd Mayweather, who am I? Muhammad Ali. Alright. I'm Muhammad Ali. Clap for that. Clap for that. Clap for that.

Flying like a butterfly, sneaking like a bee. No, but there's a difference between the nigga who made the most bread and the nigga who stood for something and changed people's perceptions on how to view life. Is that Murderbook who made the most bread? I would say so. All the battle rappers?

I would say so, as far as the battle rappers. But then, you know, unfortunately, the way battle rap is structured, Cassidy might have made more bread than him. You get what I'm saying? But when you think about people

who change their perception on life, that's Matt Hoffa. Period. Results. Period. Results. Period. Results, Nori.

Rest in peace to Pat State. Rest in peace to Pat State. Hold on, even look at Nori, right? Nori. Oh, I ain't a bad rapper. Nah, you not a bad rapper. You not. You a rapper.

But when you start throwing shit on the track, and niggas knew, yeah, Nori really do that shit, it hit different. Yeah. But when a nigga say, yo, I spray you with the 40 and this and the third, but you know a nigga, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what I'm saying,

what I'm saying, like, back in the day, back in the day, back in the third. But you know what, nigga? What am I saying? What am I saying? Back in the day. Back in the day. Back in the day. I'm a monster. When you said something different. I'm from Brooklyn, well, when Hope said, couldn't talk about it

if I ain't live it, that was real for me. That's the vibe. So when niggas stand in front of me and they say all types of ridiculous shit And I know like

Come on my nigga I'll put your collar over your head Stop it right now Give him a Reggie? Yeah Shut up Shut up You know what I mean?

Stop Stop It's different when Think about a fictional movie In an autobi an autobiography movie. You know that story's real. It's different. It hit different.

This nigga really did this shit. It hit different. You dig what I'm saying? Like watching Malcolm X will always be better than watching Idiocracy. Exactly. Yes, sir. Exactly. You killed that? Did it. You didocracy. Exactly. Yes, sir. Exactly. You killed that?

Did it. You did that in order? I did that. You did that. You did that. What? To be honest, if you want to know how dumb we are, watch Idiocracy.

Have you ever seen this movie? Yeah, I feel like. It's the dumbest movie ever. I feel like. And it shows us exactly what we're doing. It said that the more technology we get, the dumber that we actually get. These motherfuckers, it's like

the year 2077, right? And everybody's stupid. Everyone's drinking Gatorade. They replace water with Gatorade. They're trying to water plants with Mountain Dew. Mountain Dew, Mountain Dew, Gatorade, what are those? It's ridiculous.

It's stupid. It's ridiculous. Poways. Right, shit's stupid. Yeah, they waterin' plants with fuckin' Poways. There's a wrestler that's president

and all that shit. Oh yeah, Terry, Terry. And he had a Spanish last name. He was black. His name was Carlos

or some shit. Juan Ramirez. But that's what I'm saying, like, it's wrestling when there ain't no reality there, it's what I'm saying. Like, it's wrestling. Right. When there ain't no reality there, it's just wrestling. Right.

You know what I mean? And we all love wrestling. But at some age, you realize, yo, he not really punching that nigga. You know what I mean? Like Santa Claus? Right. But my question to you, Nori, is you understand the process of evolution. Yes.

Right? You evolved in many different ways no you have so when you talk about two different people totally different people and then again you look at the results

you look at the evolution you a fact minded guy you know what it is You know what it is Yeah You know what it is Are we talking about The murder mook Math

That's what we talking about Yeah I think we still We ain't even talking about it It's no battle bro It's no battle The point is The evolution is different I'm telling you bro

There's certain things You just can't say yes to Because you know it's an L You just can't bro It's an L Why am I gonna say yes to that What because you know it's a L. You just can't, bro. It's a L. Why am I gonna say yes to that? Uh-uh.

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Plus on Apple Podcasts. That's moving backwards. I'm just saying, but I don't feel like we Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Don't make them desperate Let's be clear Cause they don't got Be devil's advocate Yeah Be devil's advocate Uh huh Murder, bull, and shaw What's the next question? Yeah No I just wanna Next question I mean

No I would love to see it That's Y'all The way we put it together Awesome Alright The way I put it together There might be six niggas in the world that's going to be like,

Sean, he really did that shit. And that's exciting for me. I'll tell you what. I and Solomon take both of y'all battles. Right. I and Solomon was the M&M. Let's just be clear. Right. They're both equal. I.S. Solomon was the M&M. Let's just be clear. Right.

Before you and Mook battled him. And I won. Clearly he was the M&M. And I won. He was, by the way, washing everybody out. Everybody. I couldn't believe it. Right.

Now, who beat I.S. Solomon first? Me. For real? Me. Yeah, you might be the favorite. And you know what's crazy? Yeah, you know what's crazy, man? Here's a line from that battle.

He know Thug. He know me from his people's club. Because I don't fuck niggas up outside of EO Dub. And he knew that. And the people standing with him knew that. You dig what I'm saying? That's different. That's getting crazy right now.

That's getting crazy right now. You got me hyped, man. It is what it hype man Holy shit I wasn't ready Niggas relate to you because you really was like that Yes I am not no more I know that You know you're not no more

You're taking a shot for no reason Come on Nah brothers I'm gonna be honest Sean Bigger Champ You're taking a shot for no reason. Come on. Let's go. You can't just sneak a shot in. FTF to you. Nah, nah, brothers. I'm going to be honest. Sean Bigger, Champ, Math, Mecca. I'm going to Mecca's at the bathroom. What y'all doing is remarkable.

What y'all doing is taking barbershop talk. Y'all really making it worldwide. Huh, salute. Really making it worldwide. We want to salute y'all brothers. I want to tell y'all continue to do your thing but I also want to tell y'all protect your energy.

Because the bigger you get the more people is going to want to spread false narratives around. And they're going to start using you. And everyone is not to be used. Right. And everyone shouldn't have the platform.

So be careful. It's a learning lesson. And I have nothing wrong to say about any artist, but sometimes you've got to sit back and say, you know what? If I do this, I know what this result is going to lead to. Right. and say you know what if i do this i know what this result is going to lead to right and know the intention of the yeah that's the best thing i've ever had i guess comes with the intent i tell this to my friends all the time the best things i i ever had is relationships

and the best thing i ever did was always make friends first, then business partners. Right. Because the thing about it is all these people are pieces of shit, right? If they're going to pick between y'all and their family, they're going to pick their family every time. That's the fact.

But so are you. Right. So they're not that much pieces of shit because y'all have the same morals when it comes to that. Right. And then you got to take it from there. You got to say, all right, cool.

He's not wrong for saying that him and Brenda, he just want to care about him and Brenda because he, because we just care about me and our family, right? Right. But you gotta watch that shit Because the more powerful you get The more responsibilities you're gonna have And the more the devil is gonna come out Oh yeah The devil is working overtime On y'all right now For me it's a simple decision

Y'all see the devil for me Thank y'all For me it's a simple decision. I put my energy into this show. It changed my life. If I put energy into a hater,

I'm going to change his life. So why would I do that? I just let them let's see what you can do on your own. I ain't got no words for them. I don't have to. I respond to things that I feel like I have to and things that I don't.

People see it. They be like, yeah man, I probably don't got to say nothing to this thing. And it is what it is. So shout out to all you niggas. I hope you find your way. And I hope that you realize when you get to a point of success that what you did to get there might not have been the right thing. And that's the way you was moving.

You dig what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. How about you, Sean? You being on camera. I can just tell you a street dude. I can tell you from my era. And my era is we don't look at the camera direct.

We kind of like. I kid you not, my whole first year of NRE, and I went platinum. It's probably the worst year. Me, my Uncle Wise, all of my friends, we took no pictures. We thought pictures was trash. That was the era. You didn't take pictures.

Yeah, it was the era. So we got this whole tour. We went all over the world didn't take pictures. Yeah, it was the era. So we got this whole tour. We went all over the world. And no pictures. Not one picture. I know. That's how it was. My uncle called me the other day.

He was like, you know how corny niggas we were back then? Yeah. And I said, well, he said, yo, we purposely didn't take pictures.

We have nothing documented but memories. And I said, that's kind of better than this era right now. Right. I go and perform. No one's looking at me.

They're going like this. I be wanting to kick they fucking phone. The fuck is you doing, nigga? I'm killing it right here. Why you want to document it for later? It affects. Yeah, like you said, in our era, that's how it was.

How are you adapting to this fame and people seeing you? It was, so I just learned about the internet thing and all of that, and the people that react and read in the comments and all of that stuff. I'm sorry, did you say you just learned about the internet? Yeah, pretty much the internet with the Instagram. I had to tell him I don't run his Instagram. That's cool. Actually, I went you were on Instagram.

I'm old school. I have an Instagram. So you didn't have an Instagram? I was still, you know, pretty much on that. You know, if I have Facebook, it's private, and it was only for my family members that, you know, that shit. Oh, so you have a Facebook? Yeah. You have a Twitter? No. I don shit. Oh, so you have a Facebook? Yeah, that's all I have.

No, I don't have no Twitter. You have Instagram? Yeah, because he... He said now. So time out. Let me just give you... This is... If you ever want a dose of negativity...

It's Instagram. Open up your Twitter. Yeah. Oh, my God. I mean, Twitter's doing the next... The new Twitter even with Elon Musk? It's worse. Bro.

It's way worse. It's racist now. Yeah, it's flagrant. It wasn't racist before. I'm not really on it like that. Twitter? Stay away. Yo, let me tell you something.

I'm so sorry because I'm going to sound crazy. But I wake up, I don't even brush my teeth. He's a Twitter dude? I'm just going to strange the Twitter. You the Tweety bird? I'm so addicted. I advise against that. I advise against that.

The first half an hour that you wake up, you shouldn't be on your phone. Don't be on social media. Don't touch your phone. Let me tell you something. I'm going to give you something better. Control your energy. Let me give you something better, right? Me and Benzino used to live in the same building, right?

Right. So one day, you know, we're having breakfast. Benzino wakes up in the morning, and he goes on Twitter, and he Googles his own name. I don't even know how you could do this. Nah, you look it up. So you could look at it. You know what I'm saying? You don't know how you could do this?

Listen, listen. No, no, no. Because this is the messages they're not adding you. Yeah. They're not adding you. He knows how to pull up the messages where they're just talking. He found his name.

He Googled it. He's hashtagged. He responds to every negative comment. I'm not mad at him for that. I was like, I've never seen nobody more negative than this in my life. If you're going to be negative,

be that negative. Be that negative. I'm saying. If you're going to be negative, be that negative. Be that negative. I'm saying, if you're going to be that, then go all the way down there. I got to say shout out to Talib Kweli. Oh, absolutely.

He's the only guy. Talib does that all the way. Twitter all the way. I don't know how he does it. He's the definition of Twitter finger. By the way. He's every finger, not just Twitter. He is every finger.

He finds every racist. If Calvin doesn't have a click farm helping him, then he's ill. No, it's him by himself. No, it's just him. No, I know. I'm saying that. I'm saying that. I actually probably got templates already.

I asked him about that shit, and he smiled. And I was like, yeah, that nigga like that shit. Tell him. He like that shit. He like that shit. Oh, no. And we interviewed him, Dave Chappelle, and Mos Def. Which was fire.

And when we brung it up, they all laughed at him. They was all like, no, don't get Tyler and Stardust. Yeah. He goes in. He goes in. So you guys, you don't have a Twitter? I recommend you get a Twitter. I'm going to be honest with you. no, don't get Tyler started. He goes in. You don't have a Twitter? I recommend you get a Twitter. I'm going to be honest with you. No, don't get a Twitter. No, no, no.

Just Instagram alone is enough. Let me tell you why I like Twitter. Listen, let me tell you why I like Twitter way more than Instagram, way more than I don't know either I must or nothing. Okay, thanks for that. If I don't have a haircut, I ain't going on Instagram.

If I don't feel good about life, I ain't going on Instagram. I can be fucked up. My mind is whatever. And I go on Twitter, it's somebody so much worse than me. There's somebody on there like, I just lost my dog

Who do you follow bro? Who are you following? My wife is fucking Some guy named Chucky You know It's like It's crazy on Twitter And I look

And it's like Jerry Springer Yeah You used to think Your life was fucked up And you go on Jerry Springer You got Jack Daniels too? No no What is going on? No, no.

What is going on? No. No, Twitter's like the dirty section of social media. Yeah. It's the dirty section. Then, all right, that's regular Twitter. Right. Then there's black Twitter, right?

Right. Where I don't give a fuck what you do. You wrong. You're making nobody happy. Nobody. Nobody. do you wrong you're making nobody happy nobody nobody i swear to god i could post a picture of my dog the dog ain't doing shit you posted fuck your dog who told you that? I enjoy it. I enjoy it. The fuck your dog coming? Yes, I enjoy the negative. Because my life is really positive.

I'm really living a great life. And I need to know, do not be comfortable, sir. Do not get comfortable. There's people out there that's miserable. Remind yourself every day. Post your picture with you and a bottle of water saying I'm living life. Fuck you, nigga. Fuck you.

That's real shit. I need that. At that moment, I need don't you ever get comfortable in R.E. There's a hater out there right there and he likes you. But he's talking crazy.

But he's talking crazy right now. Don't get comfortable at all. Look, man, that's the hood. Keeps you grounded. Keeps you grounded. That's not just the hood. That's the world. It's the world.

Let's not put it to just the hood. That's the world. I recommend Twitter wholeheartedly. Listen, I got no mercy against anyone who hates on me. Because if you knew that I have no fucking shoes for months in Barbados. You're Bayesian? Yes. Why would you hate on me?

You're Bayesian? If you knew. No, Bayesian, not Barbados. If you knew that I had to get adjusted to the New York school system, getting jumped and getting into fights every single day, why would you hate on me? If you knew I came from the fucking bottom and I made something, why would you hate on me? Makes no sense. I got a real question for you. Did you ever wear the Jamaican belts? Yes.

With jeans, nigga. You wore the Jamaican belts? Yes. With jeans, nigga. You wore the Jamaican belts? With jeans. With jeans. Everybody that's West Indian knows that they were Jamaican. And then, especially the Asians. You pull it. That shit stay right there.

You know what I mean? Abbey Square Mall? Yes. Everything. So while Just stay right there and take it down. You know what I mean? Abbey Square Mall? Abbey Square Mall. Yes. Yes. Everything. You can tell I'm old school New York. So, wow.

I got my friends from Abbey Square Mall. I was out of line. Not from Nassau, I mean, Bargain Bazaar. Coliseum? Nah, I ain't gonna lie. I don't know. Low.

You went to Bargain Bazaar? Abbey Square Mall was iller than the Coliseum. Coliseum kind of, I, I'm like, oh, what are you doing? It hurts me so much. What are you doing? It hurts me so much. Stop it.

You never had one before. Stop it. I got to be honest. What are you doing? You're at Brooklyn. Stop it. What are you doing? My homie Troy Outlaw

used to bring me to Farragut. Farragut. Right. Fort Greene was right next to each other. By the way, it was the craziest shit ever. It was totally... I felt like I was in...

I was supposed to say Disney World, but what I mean by that Disney World, what I mean is I was totally out. I didn't even feel like I was in New York City. How do you element? And I went to a mall called Harvey Square Mall. And the guy in there said, I got dental gold. And I was like, dental gold? I had never heard of that before.

He can probably see through y'all to me. I don't even know. But I went and I came back because I got frames. And it was so thin and no one in Queens, no one in Queens could understand. And I was like, where you got that? I was like, Syracuse. I was like, and then Bismarck came up.

I was like, fuck! I'm sorry, man. I just told everybody how old I up. I'm old school. I'm old school. I'm sorry, man. I just told everybody how old I am. I'm old school. Downtown Brooklyn is crazy. Downtown. By the way, there's 50 niggas out there when you walked in there, right? By the way, it's not the same.

It's not. No, absolutely not. It's not. But no place is the same. But you can still get robbed, though. Yeah, yeah, definitely. You can turn the wrong corner. Right. And you can still get robbed. I was telling, yeah, definitely. You can turn the wrong corner. Right. And you can still get robbed.

I was telling him, go ahead, man. Go to Brooklyn. He's like, and that's okay. I mean, I miss that part of Brooklyn. I went to a Soho house in Brooklyn. Oh, downtown by the bridge. Yeah, I mean, they don't belong in Brooklyn. But they're going to have a So soul house in Compton next week.

I'm just being honest. There it is. Probably. Gentrification is rare. It is. Can we gentrify the opposite way? I don't believe in gentrification. Why you don't believe?

Jesus. It's classism. Classism. I like that. If you got the money to stay, you're going to stay. But what is gentrification to you? Gentrification. What does that mean to you?

It's called gentrification because I feel like there's a specific race who has more money. You think that's exactly what it means? No, no, no. I'm not saying that's what it means. Right. I'm saying when people say gentrification it's not completely just if you got the money to stay where you at right you could you're gonna stay right but if you don't right because money's buying the people out they're outpricing you yeah so so you gotta go

to where it makes sense for you so when i when i went to columbia i went to this area called columbia too yeah you know this. I did drink chants from Colombia. We didn't remember that. You don't remember that. Right. I went to one of the worst hoods in Colombia that during the cartel wars and everything. No, it was. Where did we go, Paul?

Paul. Yo, we went to Bogota. We went to Medellin. Oh, my God. He's not helping, bro. Did you go to Choco? No. Nobody went to Choco? We were in Medellin. We went to Medellin. Oh, my God. He's not helping, bro. Did you go to Choco? No. Nobody went to Choco?

We were in Medellin. We were in Medellin. What was the place in Medellin we went to? We went to Pase Dos. The Comuna 13. Oh, I remember y'all was on cocaine. You were high. Hold up.

Hold up. Shout out to my daughter. I'm a big star, y'all. Why? She's Colombian? She's half Colombian. So we went to Comuna 13 in Medellin. Right. She's half Colombian So we went to Comuna 13 in Medellin This is Escobar's territory

Where he had the gangs fighting And they had a crazy war in there It was one of the worst spots In like late 90s Hip hop actually changed everything there How so? The hip hop community did graffiti that changed everything. They had

b-boys. They had... They gave people an outlet. For artistic expression. It was wild. I did a documentary. You can watch it. Right now, I'm fucked up and I can't explain it totally. But this is where I realized there is reverse

gentrification. Because what they did, the government was part of it. So you might need government help. The government put because in Colombia, the way I saw it is the higher you got out in the mountain, the worse it was. Right. So the more poverty was up. Yeah. In other places, the higher you got up, the richer it was. Yeah. But in Colombia, in this specific area, the higher up it was worse.

So they actually put escalators. In the mines. In the hood. Going up into the hood. Escalators. Not elevators. No. That's where your hand is going. That's an elevator.

No. Escalators. Up the side of a mountain. Escalators going into the mountain. No. That's where your hand is going. That's an elevator. No, escalators. Right. Up the side of a mountain. Escalators going into the mountain. Right. Into the side of the hill. Was it cocaine there? No.

So, you go into this area, and we were in there, and then they have a tour of the graffiti there. There's kids that are B-boys and B-girls. DJs are set up. the graffiti there. There's kids that are B-boys and B-girls. DJs are set up. They have artisans with, because now it's a tourist trap for the better sense of what a tourist trap is.

Right. But, because the escalator's there. But it's the people that live there. You smoking this whole time? Come on, my brother. Keeping this shit down.

Well, fuck both y'all the point is is that there is I do believe that there is a way for reverse gentrification right where the hood

can't control their shit because they did it we saw it with our own eyes but you said it was that's in Colombia no the only thing

the government assisted in was well the government has can we go to Williamsburg and buy back Williamsburg? It's like saying independent or major. There is no independence in this world. Should we go to Lawrenton? You can, but it's not going to happen.

Bruh. Can we go to Lawrenton and buy back Lawrenton? Minorities brought in- You see, Madoff is from Lawrenton. Enough money to have their own country. Madoff on Queens is fat. Y'all seen Madoff documentary? In 2022.

Which Madoff? Bernie. Bernie Madoff. You ain't seen the documentary on Netflix? Nobody seen it? Yeah, I saw it. You saw it?

You saw it? Is that shit mean or what? He's a fat nigga. It's very good. Yo, but by the way, that's the first person I've ever seen. They confiscated

his shit, his wife's shit, his son's shit, his other son's. They confiscated everything from him. They don't do that to white people. That's the first time I've ever seen it. It's usually they just do it to him and that's it. Right. His wife was in a Honda Accord.

Living in a Honda Accord. That's fast. She was living in it? Living in a Honda Accord. You's fast. She was living in it? Living in a Honda Accord. You're going to watch this shit. This shit is crazy. I've watched it twice. That's how crazy it is. You ain't fuck with it like that? No, it's heavy. I ain't watch it twice. Yeah.

That shit was heavy. It showed me a lot I didn't know. And what's crazy is what you didn't know, he did this for 30 years. He would take your money and make you feel like you made money. He'll be like, yo, whatever. And you would give him back your money.

Yeah, he took somebody's money. You got nothing. He's just like, yo, listen, I'm just giving you an example. I'm just giving false numbers. Like, yo, on your 30 grand, I made like 60 60 such and such for it so you want me to um whatever whatever and you're like no no no take it because you feel like you want to keep making money so he did it for 30 years and it's crazy because these people were reinvesting. What's crazy about it was one of the first things we learned about Brother Kanye is that Chase cut their ties with him. Right.

Chase is still tied to this man. To Bernie? To Bernie. That's crazy. They never stopped their bank account with him. They said, we didn't know. That's it. They had no lawsuit.

There was nothing filed against them. There was nothing, and they were still in business. This is crazy, bro. And Kanye hurt no one. Kanye took no one's house. That was white privilege. Kanye, he He None of that I think

Guru said something Very important on my show He said stop saying Yeah young guru Shout out to guru Mixing my project Damn Flossing on us

Expensive You know what I mean He said We need to stop saying The Illuminati or they. That's true. Okay. That's true. Wait, what Kyle had been talking about, they didn't want us to eat.

No, but actually find the names of the people that's behind certain shit that holds people back. You can't create the boogeyman and not know who the boogeyman is. You can't find a they. You can't find a Illuminati You don't know where to fight They don't got no location That's a scapegoat For you to scapegoat your problems

But there's a motherfucker out there That's trying to pass a bill That's going to fuck us all up And we can find him Right So find his name Put his shit in the circuit And be like

Yo Fuck this guy You know what I mean? Right They claim y'all's Illuminati yet? Um, yeah, definitely. Oh, we all Illuminati, right? All of us are here.

We got Illuminati, right? No, no, no. Method Man brought me in. That's what they said. I'm saying Method Man brought me in, son. I didn't know that, but we're all in it, right? Did you really just throw up the table? I'm going to be honest. I didn't know that, but we're all in it, right? Yeah, we're all in it. I mean, with respect. Listen, you know what's fucked up? Did you really just throw up the table?

That's scary. I'm going to be honest. In hip-hop, that's what's so fucked up. If you're successful, it's either you're gay or you're a little Illuminati. Or you're a gay Illuminati. But that's a loser. Hold on, hold on, hold on. But that's a loser mentality because losers are going to come up with every reason of why they can't win.

But their reasons when they put out the videos is pretty good. I'm like, damn, Nori is an Illuminati. I believe Nori's an Illuminati now. They're like, yo, Nori went like this in the video. When they tell me what Nori did with Nas in the room and then Puff. I was like, bro, you're right. He was there. He's an Illuminati.

Holy shit, I've been hanging out with Illuminati this whole fucking time. Yo, they caught a picture of me and Method Man. I went like this, but they caught my fingers bent. And he was like, look, he's throwing up the 666. And he's on the video. I was like, what the fuck? Well, I'm going to tell them right now that you are in the Illuminati. We here then. Fuck it. We here. You ever see the video where I'm like, what the fuck? Well, I'm going to tell them right now that you are in the Illuminati. We're here then. Fuck it.

We're here. Us playing around about this. There's a kid in Arkansas right now like, look, they admitted it. They did it. And it's going to be a two-second clip. We are in the Illuminati. There's going to be air fans

saying, we are in the Illuminati. We are. I feel like whenever a person It's going to be your fans saying, we are in the Illuminati. We are. Nah, that's crazy. But you know, I feel like whenever a person say that, they're downgrading your hard work. Yeah. That's a scapegoat. It's a scapegoat. I mean, it's bullshit.

It's loser shit. Well, we know it's bullshit, but. I'm going to tell you something, right, Nori, about this show, right? Yes. This show, Math Hoffa, Mecca, Bigger. I sit back on the show. I came on the show in the summertime, right? Yes. This show, Math, Huffle, Mecca, Bigger. I sit back on the show. I came on the show in the summertime, right?

A few months ago. I sat back and watched an organization of things that was unprecedented as far as my experience, right? I sat and watched math be calculated and strategic. I watched Mecca come with wisdom, right? Wisdom and knowledge of the game strategic. I watch Mecca come with wisdom, right?

Wisdom and knowledge of the game experience. I watch Mecca be a person who takes a stand that stands on his words, right? And his beliefs, right? And his fear of God and his belief in God. Same thing with bigger. Yeah, that's what I'm saying with bigger. So sit back and watching this makes for a great pot of greatness.

It makes for a great pot of greatness. And that's why so many people in an intimate environment, right? First of all, the barbershop is an intimate environment. Right. Sitting there having these conversations. There's no editing of sorts or whatever. If you're sitting in your living room and you're watching the show,

there's an intimacy there, whether you're with your boys or you're in the studio or you're with your loved one. So what this does is it helps you relate to the show more. You understand what I'm saying? This is why, again,

motherfuckers can't say it enough, it's number one as far as the independent route. God damn it. And we respect that. Because people connect to the intimacy of it. No freaky. No freaky. No freaky.

No freaky. They connect to that. You know what I'm saying? So I just got to put that out there. We connect to that. But, and I'm going to also tell you something. Fix your collar, man. I'm thinking great, brother.

I'm going to also tell you something um he's an independent guy right efa wants to own a hundred percent of everything which is great i'm a major guy right i could own 50 of a major company and i'm i'm and and I'm good with that, right? And I like what he said. I'm with the major as long as the major's with me. Right. I'm paraphrasing what you said.

Yeah, yeah, it's fine. But, and that's really what it is. It's like I've been platinum, right? Being platinum is probably one of the illest feelings you could ever have. Like, I wish it on anybody.

I bought that album. God damn, thank you. We all do. I was running red lights to that shit in Brooklyn. And I'm going to tell you something. When I sold crack, nothing can replace that feeling. So when a person's still selling crack or still being a drug dealer, I understand that. Because it's not the money.

It's the thrill. It's the thrill of me saying, yo, come to the corner. Here, I got this. And nothing can replace that until I win platinum, until I win gold. When I got gold, it replaced that feeling.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Week, depending on how hard I go. And it's got so great that we take days off. Like, we do shit and we're like, oh. Let's interview the y'all up because we know the y'all ain't. We can't help. It's done. But let's give him that platform where we take days off. And it's so thrilling because this is the easiest money I've ever made. Not saying I don't work hard. I work hard as a motherfucker.

Right. But what it is is I'm talking. Like, when I write rhymes, I got to sit there. I got to show down. This rhyme don't rhyme with this. Oh, I ain't say this like this. I don't got to do that. Then commit it to memory.

And then, yeah. Well, I don't memorize shit no more. I be trying to think I'm holding them niggas. The performance. No, he's I was making a joke.

But, yeah. And this is such a beautiful thing, man. I'm so glad where y'all at and where y'all continue to go and continue to grow. Likewise. Because I tell you, man, being great by yourself is cool, but being great with a team is so much better. You know what I mean? I don't want to go on vacation by myself

and I got to pay for the bill. Like, my people, I want to put them in a position for them to say, Shlom, this is on me. I love it! I love it! And I know I'm saying that in the most minute situation, but it's really true.

It really feels good to empower someone else and to make them the boss. You know what I'm saying? To make them. You know, I always say, and I probably never said it to EFN or around EFN. My relationship with Capone made my relationship with EFN So much better How so? Because I always used to try to make Capone like me I wanted him to be on time

I wanted him to be punctual I wanted him to And that's not who he is That's not And every time I pushed him to beat towards that We separated So I don't change EFN at all This motherfucker don't change the FN at all.

This motherfucker don't want a chain. This motherfucker don't want, he just wants to be him. Yeah. But had I not, yeah, yeah, yeah. But had I not been through it with Poem, trying to make him like me and realizing. You wouldn't have known and let him have known then i wouldn't have known to just relax with the y'all yeah you know what i'm saying it's a beautiful thing and and i'm proud of that yeah i'm actually proud because but now with us you know you look at these people and it looks like we're hanging out with people, but damn near 70% of these people are on payroll.

They all got jobs. They're all here. 70% of them. And they all look like us. You know what I mean? We was able to do that. We was able to and big up Revolt for that because when we got Revolt,

Revolt hired this whole staff and we was like, ugh. That's true. We went to the check, but we were like, ugh. Right. And we looked, and this, you know, our- Because of the staff, because- Relaxed. But Mr. Lee and Hazardous and, you know, ourasta, I just told them, man, just watch them, man.

Let's watch. Let's see what they are doing. And we realized they ain't smarter than us. Fire their whole staff. What the fuck? I'm sorry. Let's go out there. Let's go out there.

Let's go out there. Let's go out there. Let's go out there. Let me vote for the whole staff. Not me. Not me. And we hired our people fighter, the whole staff. Not me. All right, nice. Not me. And we hired our people back, the same people that was here. And, you know, it reminds of the realness that y'all are displaying.

Like, you know, you're my friend. I think this is the first time I met you, right? I think this is the first time. No, I met you at Brooklyn Chop House. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. You had on a suit, I think. No, I ain't having no suit. Yo, you think it's I'm bald-headed? No, no, no. My at Brooklyn Chop House. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. You had on a suit, I think. Nah, I ain't had on no suit. Yo, you think it's I'm boy-headed?

No, no, no. I'm bad, I'm bad. Nah, I met you at Brooklyn Chop House, though. And I watch y'all, man. And I sit back and I'm proud. Not only proud of you, I'm proud of all the brothers. I'm proud of, like... And y'all suffer

From the same thing That we suffer from Female guests We do need Some more females man Yeah Y'all It's not a podcast

It's just scary It's just scary In this time Cause we say Reckless shit Around each other But if you say Reckless shit

Around female We had Remy Yeah We had Remy. Yeah. We had Remy twice. Oh, okay, okay. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, we had her on the show. I said we had her on the show.

How about who my brother Mike Booth put me on to? Lola Brock? Lola Brock? Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah, she's making a round. I'm okay with it, okay with it.

I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't.

I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't.

I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't.

I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't.

I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. I ain't lying. I ain't lying. I ain't lying. I ain't lying. I ain't lying. I ain't lying. I ain't lying. I ain't lying. Shout out to Mike Booth, man.

You had Megan on your show? Shout out to Mike Booth. No. You never had Megan on our show. Would you? Would I? Yeah. Yeah, I would.

I would, too. I would. Who? Megan. And you know what? I want to apologize to her, too, because I saw 50 put out an apology. What? You went at Megan, too?

We didn't believe her. We did not believe her, bro. We didn't believe her. She needed more people? She definitely needed more people. But she didn't really need more people.

We just needed to hear that jail conversation. That was not good. Yeah. And then Tory Pop's got an ill cut. Yeah. Lord Jesus. was not good yeah and then tori pop's got an ill cut yeah lord jesus but i want to publicly apologize to me and because you know as black men we're supposed to protect our women that's right

and i feel like i filled in that category as far as the things that I said on our podcast. I just didn't believe. I'm looking at your eyes. It's the first time. You got puppy eyes. You must have said some shit. Look at you.

This is the sincerest moment ever. I'm almost disappointed. What did you say, man? Why you got me disappointed He is apologizing right now Nah but I gotta say though You know I'm sorry for what you went through

I'm sorry for what you went through I'm sorry for you know For that coming from a black man Right And um yeah I apologize Do you think And by the way Tory's my man Tory's been in here from a black man. Right. And, yeah, I apologize. Do you think, do you think,

and by the way, Tory's my man, Tory's been in here. Yeah. Do you think Tory didn't take it serious? Like, at one point, he fell asleep.

I think. In court. Like, I don't think you're taking your life serious. You fell asleep in court. I, I think

Tory, you know, but we're both of them I hope they find Better places in their lives Because we've seen Plenty of artists Go through shit

We saw Chris and Rihanna Go through their shit And then You know Look at where they're at now So hopefully We can get to that space But

We do need to do more About Us just misusing each other You know what I'm saying do need to do more about us just misusing each other. You know what I'm saying? We need to acknowledge that we're human beings and some of us come with traumas and those traumas could sometimes lead people in the wrong direction.

So the more we work on our mental health, I feel like that will better us as a culture. And you know what's crazy? We owe Canada so much favors. Canada could have stepped in. Canada? Canada.

The country. Because he's a Canadian. I get it, but you said we owe them or they owe us? Yeah, I mean, Canada could have stepped in, but it's violence. Violence, they can't do that. Right. They can't. But if he would have got caught with kilos, I think Canada do that. Right. They can't. But like,

if he would've got caught with kilos, I think Canada would've flexed they muscle on him. Would've been like, yo, bring it back,

bring it back, bring it back. They would've did a switch with the Russian. Right. Yeah, would've did

the swap. Yeah. What's the, what's the, the Russian shit was wild. Yeah. But another thing

I want to say is, by the way, they traded a basketball player for a killer. That was hard. That was hard. Not just a killer. Like a killer. Not just a killer.

Not just a killer on court, bro. Homie had... No, I was about to say. Homie had mad shit. Homie had like bodies, right? Yeah. Not bodies. He's...

Weapons game was crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. He funded wars. But that's the part that everybody looks over. He was getting out in a couple more months. Anyway. Was he? He had been in there for a minute.

That shit was about to get out. That shit was pre-planned already, bro. Right. That shit was pre-planned. But I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to tell you something.

I'm still glad she got out, bro. That's real. Yes. My last conversation with Kanye before it kind of went dark was that's what he told me.

He said he's going to Russia. He's headed to Russia. No. I swear to God. He told you he's going to Russia. He's headed to Russia. No. I swear to God. He told you he's going to Russia? To meet with Putin to free homegirls. Oh, to free her.

Yeah. I thought you lived there. Whatever, whichever way, whichever way it happened, Kanye was the first person to put it in Putin's mind. Now, here's the question.

Here's a, no, no, no, hold on. Here's a question for both of y'all. And I don't know if Kanye told me that off the record, so if I said that by mistake, Kanye, my bad. No, I think he said it, no, no. Hold on. Here's a question for both of y'all. And I don't know if Kanye told me that off the record. So if I said that by mistake, Kanye, my bad. No, I think he said it. Yeah, but I got it.

Can y'all see ourselves doing shit like that? Doing like what? Like going to meet with rulers of whole countries. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. You know what's fucked up? I smoked weed in Russia with him.

Me and him were in Russia, and that was the most terrifying thing in the world. Yo, that was the most racist place I've ever been in my planet. They so racist? No, no, no. They so racist they can't even look at you. That's what you said. No, what do you mean? I don't got to go to Russia ever.

This is how fucked up it is. And this is how dope it was at the same time. The promoters that booked us, booked him. I was his DJ and the was at the same time. The promoters that booked us, booked him. I was his DJ and the manager at the same time. The promoters that booked us. You want to know what they buttoned said? No, hold up. Okay.

I got to say it. Okay, let him say it. Russians against racism. I said, we're fucked. Yo, if you got a real button that says Russians against racism, we don't belong here. And by the way, by the way, by the way.

No, tell them about the story with the soccer game. Oh, hold on. I'm going to get to that. By the way, let me just tell you how crazy it was, right? It's,

we forget that they just look at us like Americans. Right. There is no West Coast. There is no East Coast. No, it's like, you're just American.

So a guy comes and picks us up in a 6'4 Chevy. No, he was cool, though. He was super cool. Yo, this dude had a low rider. In Russia, he thought... That was going to be your shit.

Like, I was going to be that. And you're like, what the fuck? I don't want a 6'4 Chevy. We don't drive this shit. No, no, no. He had the Russian job. He joined a Tony Touch mixtape on a low rider hitting switches.

Yeah. So he's doing hip hop all together You know that's why Let me tell you something That's why we should never hate on each other Because outside of us Everyone looks at us the same I'm going to be honest with you That's real what he's saying is so ill

I'm going to be honest with you we just went to Hawaii Right How was it? Me, my friend Diego, and they were racist. Diego is my white friend. He literally, sometimes when we're jogging, he'll walk in front of a car. Because he's white. He's got that privilege.

They're not going to hit him. Don't even look. They're not going to hit him. Don't even look. They were racist to Diego. I've never seen this before. That's crazy. He literally bought a drink, and the Hawaiian guy came up to him and said,

you can't drink on a dance floor. The bar is the dance floor, nigga. What the fuck do you mean? That's crazy. I told him, like, literally. And I was like, wow. They literally hate Americans in Hawaii. Well, it's America, though.

It's part of us. And now, so here's what's crazy. Here's what's crazy, EFN. I come home and I watch this show called White Lotus. Anybody ever seen this show called White Lotus? They just won a Golden Globe,

won an Oscar, whatever the fuck it is. And then in White Lotus, the lady says, oh, I want to leave because, and it's deep, it's deep. She said, but why would I stay here? These guys stole our land and then they make us dance for them for dinner. So when you eat dinner in Hawaii, the luau These people are dancing Yeah The luau

Yeah the luau Fuck y'all But So the girl was like Yo I don't wanna watch this These guys stole these guys land And now they gotta dance for them for dinner

Shit is deep So So that was Diego? No It gets worse It gets worse It gets worse So now we in the hotel We walking through Diego's blended in It gets worse. It gets worse. It gets worse. So now we're in a hotel.

We're walking through. Diego's blended in. It's nothing but me, Mike Boone. How is he blended in? Come on, relax. A guy doesn't see him. A guy doesn't see him. A guy walks by and goes,

there's too many fucking white people in this pool. A Hawaiian guy. I said, oh, shit. This is the only place in America. They racist to white people. And then Diego walks up to me. He goes, does he see I'm right here? Because he's blending in with black people.

He felt so comfortable saying that. It's crazy. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I went too far. No, it was amazing. No, it's crazy because you don't know. And then a whale stepped to me.

A whale? Stepped to well step to me a whale Step to you. You said a whale. Yeah step to you. What kind of whale he posted out on his grin Yeah, I ain't like it. What kind of way? What do you mean after you There's three three pitbulls in the hood step to me. Okay. I like this story first. Yeah, it was three three pitbulls We pitbulls came running out. Where we at? Flatbush?

No, I live in Crown Heights. Crown Heights, right? So in between Crown Heights, there's these private houses. It's like a little area where you feel like, oh, shit, I want to have a house like this one day. Nice. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I would take chicks on walks through that neighborhood and be like, yeah, we're going to get this out.

We're going to do this. Bring them back to the apartment and smash. You know what I mean? But one day, me and three of my homeboys was walking through there. And these dogs came running out from one of those houses. Pit bulls. And I turned around and looked at them. And I started talking of those houses. Pitbulls. And I turned around, looked at him, and I started talking like Tony Montana.

You were Cuban? You want to play? No. I told you a long time ago. Yeah, I said, you want to play with me? Hey! And they stopped. They were barking and running at top speed, and they stopped. It was like, oh, shit.

He's not scared. All right, we out of here. And I was like, yeah, that's how you not scared. All right, we out of here. And I was like, yeah, that's how I turned around. My homies just got on. It was down the block. But yeah, three pit bulls pressed me in. You said a whale stepped in me.

A whale. But stepped to you. You was on a boat, though. How does a whale step to you in the ocean? Yeah. It ain't like you was scuba diving. Did he swim to you or did he step to you? Yeah. That's the same shit.

Not at all. Look, because they, by the way, by the way, my wife got it. My wife never said, well, watching nothing. She said, we're taking a sunset cruise. So I say, oh, okay, that sounds cool. Right. And then you get to the you remember the last dragon yeah remember the last dragon

and they said and there ain't no coming back we got to the level where there ain't no coming back right I said fuck and then and then

they said well this is where the wells is at so these motherfuckers turn off the engine we don't want to scare the whales but I'm like how about the whales scaring

me so they're like look it's over there and then the whale comes up then they just come straight to the y'all. Straight to you. What are you doing?

I'm on the front of the boat smoking weed. Because that's the only place you can smoke on the front. It's the front. So me and Mike moved. And I got up and I just moved away. I said, oh, this is not good. And then the whale said, and then he flew under the boat. This is Paul.

He flew under the boat. I mean, he swam under the boat. That whale's off the chain. By the way, let me just tell you, Paul, let me tell you how, Paul, let me tell you how big the whale was. Right. That he flew under the boat. Everybody was like, oh, this is neat. I was like, this is not neat at all.

What the fuck? Right. Leigh-Anne is filming from one side. Diego's filming from the other side. They got the same view. That's how big, like, all he had to do was, and everyone else, no one's panicking. Everyone's like, ah.

It was at that very moment I knew I was different. This ain't it. Let's wrap it up. Time to go. And I'm drinking Mai Tais. I'm like, this is. And then at one point, the well just looked at me. He just came.

He don't like it. What you doing? And then he came straight to me. You saw the eye. Eye to eye. I swear to God. You know what the lady said? You know what the lady came to me? I promise you. There's people here that can co. You saw the eye. Eye to eye, I swear to God. You know what the lady said? You know what the lady came to me?

I promise you, there's people here that can co-sign this story. The lady came to me and said, the whales know you don't like them. So they'll keep filming them. I said, well, tell the whales that's false. He said, invite them to drink, Janice. We'll get some service.

I was like, yo, tell him. It's not, I don't like them. I'm scared. And then this is how I knew something wasn't right about this talk. The guy takes a mic and he goes, uh-uh. Takes a mic, he goes, listen,

we're going to listen to the whales now. And he throws it in the water. And the whales start speaking. I said, this nigga got a mixtape. A whale mixtape? This nigga got a whale mixtape. And then you just started talking. And then he started talking mad shit about you.

I'm like, how did the whale get that close, man? I kid you not. I wish I was exaggerating any part of this story. I am not. I am not. There's people here, right?

Nah, but it's beautiful. That is Maui. One of my favorite places on earth, Maui. Honolulu. We're going to the big island.

Big up to Ron Artest Shout out to Ron Ron, world medal piece Don't go fuck with him He got the people With Dish Network Or DirecTV Something like that

They got a little party So we're going to go out there Right, shout out to Ron Yeah, but man Let me just tell y'all Once again I know how hard it is To operate in this space And I know how hard it is to operate in this space

and I know how hard it is to be important in that space. And I want to salute you brothers. I, the I, man, the man tell y'all continue to do your thing. What y'all doing is right. Y'all on the right path. The fact that y'all just

suffered some controversy, I loved it. Because there wasn't no light on you. No, no, I loved it because we all got to experience it. Yeah, we all got to experience it. Because rain, sun is not good unless you enjoy the rain, too. That's a fact. You know what I mean?

So I'm a man of the rain. Like, I never really cooked Coke good. So when I was a hustler, I had to hustle of the rain. Like, I never really cooked Coke good. So when I was a hustler, I had to hustle in the rain. Real hustlers call it, I'm saying. The niggas that cook it good, they outside in the rain.

They outside in three and a half. Because they got good shit. You see what I'm saying? You want to be available at the worst possible time because your shit ain't that good. But you're going to make that sale because nobody else is outside.

I was the morning shift. I was like from four to nine, like when no one's outside. So crackhead Brenda, she can't really complain. Like, who else you going to see? Exactly. Just nobody else. And you remember rain skins? I used to have the rain skins, the Columbia jackets. Like, who else you going to see? Exactly. Just nobody else out here. And you remember Rain Skins?

I used to have the Rain Skins, the Columbia Jackets. Y'all remember the Columbia Jackets? The Gore-Tex. I used to love snow, rain,

and the morning shift because I knew that was it. So what I'm trying to tell y'all, I'm relating that to y'all, is it's very hard

to be out here. Yeah. And what's so crazy, this podcast is the new rappers, right? You know how everyone was rapped? So like I said, it's Costco's. You know what I mean? It's Costco's. Everyone wants to be in Costco's.

Right. Being in the back of Costco's doesn't mean nothing. Nothing. Right? Right. Unless that person is going to look for that. So I want to big y'all up every one of y'all um i want y'all to know that i understand i want y'all to continue and keep being unapologetic

about this you know what i'm saying because um i love that you went through it with Styles P because Styles P is a real person. Yep. And we got to learn, period, that sometimes relationships, we got to choose between relationships and media. Right. And I had to learn that. I learned it in such a bad way

that you learn it in such a better way that I enjoy it. Like like i enjoy you going through and and it's like the seesaw right the seesaw is not good unless it gotta go up and down yeah in fact and there gotta be two people on the seesaw a seesaw can't work by itself exactly i got deep i ain't gonna lie i killed that oh shit i made that up right now i ain't gonna lie I ain't going to lie. I made that up right now. I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to lie. I was like, oh, shit, you killed that. But, no, honestly, honestly, for real, what you're doing is hard.

As a person that been through, I know what you're going through. I know what you're going to continue to go through is hard. But know that you're on the path of righteousness. Know that you're on that yellow brick road. You know what I'm saying? So it's going to lead to Dorothy. Thanks. Or to the Wicked Witch of the West.

Or Toto. No, that's where you don't want to go. You don't want to go to the Wicked Witch of the West. That's just part of the story. That's just part of the story. That's what we're coming out of yet. But the Wicked Witch of the West exists.'s just part of the story. Yeah. That's just part of the story. That's what the community at. But the wicked witch of the rest exists. Thank you for saying that.

You know what? That was genius. It exists. But we need to avoid her to get to Dorothy. And we need to tap our boots. Because guess what? There's no place like home. That's a fact.

And you know where home is? Here. It's not a place. It's here. And that is also taking care of your family. Taking care of people. DMX sat right there. And DMX said something to me that changed my life forever.

I said something about an artist and DMX said, I can't call him whack. And I said, why? He said, because for every one artist, they feed 16 people from the hood. So if I call this artist whack, I'm taking away from 16 people's mouths.

Mmm. Mmm. That's the piece. So I don't call no podcast whack, even though a lot of y'all niggas is whack out there I don't Right But I feel you on that Let's take a shot to end this out

But I'm telling y'all again I know me and you have Very close relationship. A lot of people don't know that. We don't really tell people. But anytime you call, I pick up. Anytime I call, you pick up. You've been there for me too.

Thanks. I loved when you called me for Wu-Tang when I was going through the Wu-Tang. You remember that? Yeah, thanks. I was going through the Wu-Tang shit. The Kanye shit. You called me for the Kanye. The Kanye shit.

And as much as I know you appreciate me, I want you to know I appreciate you. I sit down. I take your advice as well. It's not just, it's a seesaw with us. And I respect all of you brothers. And I want y'all to continue to do what y'all got to do. Keep monkey footing these people in they fucking face

Keep doing it Keep doing it Because Because Because Y'all on the right path So fuck the wicked witch of the west Go out there

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