Drink Champs - Episode 349 w/ T.I., Terrence J and Joseph Sikora (Movie cast of “FEAR”)

Episode Date: February 3, 2023

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the Champs chop it up with T.I., Terrence J and Joseph Sikora! Starring in the recently released horror film “FEAR” T.I., Terrence J and... Joseph Sikora are here for a good time! The guys share stories from their individual careers, their experinces filming “FEAR” and much much more! Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com  Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps  DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions  N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreaga *Check out our Culture Cards NFT project by joining The Culture Cards Discord: 👇* https://discord.gg/theculturecardsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:12 Drink up, motherfucker. What it good be, homies? What it should be? This is your boy N.O.R.E. And usually we have E.F.N. here. E.F.N. is sick. We wanted to take the proper precautions. We don't want to get anybody else sick.
Starting point is 00:02:33 So, you know, I told him that I'll hold it down. But in honor of that, we got someone who's been on Drink Champs at least five or six times. A history with Drink Champs. So I figured we might as well have T.I. come in. So let's make some noise for T.R. But this is a very special edition of Drink Champs because we're going to, you know, speaking also here, we got Joseph. Make some noise for Joseph Sacara.
Starting point is 00:03:02 And we also got Terrence J. Make some noise for Terrence J. For all of their luxurious careers and so much things they got going on, I'm going to try to keep this interview about the movie. Okay. I'm going to really try as much as I'm fresh off of seeing the movie
Starting point is 00:03:18 just now. And you didn't see the movie. I ain't seen it yet. And you didn't see the movie. Let's make some noise for me seeing the movie before this. Hey man, also, if we could just point out the fact that I just found out I was co-host like five seconds ago. So, everybody make some noise for that, man. That's a great chance. I just found out.
Starting point is 00:03:37 So, Joseph, is it cool I call you Joseph? Yeah. So, um. Other than Tommy? Yeah, yo, because you know, yo, yo. That's okay. You know what's funny about that, Tommy, specifically? I hung out with Tommy from Martin before.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Oh, yeah. And I just kept calling him Tommy, and I kept calling all the actors by their names, and they just looking at me like... Yeah, I know, he was. But all the other actors were offended, like, when I was calling them by their names. But sometimes you do a legendary role like that, people, you nail it so good that people only identify you as that.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Is that something you ever ran into? Well, right now, just coming from the son of Queens and saying that to me, that's a badge of honor. You call me Joseph, call me Tommy, just call me now. But has that ever affected you? People who've seen... I think they call it a cast? What is it? Typecast. Yeah, typecast.
Starting point is 00:04:34 You know, I feel like even it's interesting, because Tommy is very specific, but it's also the power universe that 50 has created has been kind of bypassed by Hollywood. At the same time, I go to Los Angeles. We were just in Los Angeles, me and Dion Taylor,
Starting point is 00:04:49 the director of the great film Fear. And almost every person that I met was like, hey, you're the guy who got his dick shot off in Ozark, right? In Ozark, yeah. You're going too fast. It's my second question. Come on. And that's such a different character than Tommy. I mean, it's 180 degrees different. It's my second question. Come on. Okay, okay, okay. And that's such a different character than Tommy.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I mean, it's 180 degrees different. It's the antithesis of Tommy. Right. That guy wishes he was Tommy Egan in every sense of the word. So I still get to play all these different characters. So when people say, I got asked yesterday, are you scared of being typecast? And my answer was, I'm from the theater, darling. So, you know, I played a million different roles.
Starting point is 00:05:23 And it's okay. You put your heart and your soul into every role that you play and play a 160-degree character, a 360-degree character, and you have a real person. And that's all I'm after. It's like, I love playing Tommy. Tommy's crazy and fun. And I'll keep doing it for years.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Goddamn, make some noise for Tommy. Goddamn. Now, one of the things that I seen watching the movie Off Top was the hip-hop's placement. I got to see Ace of Spades, and I got to see Seraph. And I immediately thought of one of you brothers. That was intentional. Which one? I know it was intentional.
Starting point is 00:06:01 It was a collective. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Every opportunity we got, like, we're going to put our was a collective. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Every opportunity we got, like, we going to put our people in there. Right. You know what I mean? Right. And, you know, of course, Terrence J is, you know, he probably thought of it at first.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Yes. It was dope. Every time the champagne got popped, it was Ace of Spades. I was like, oh, shit. Then they had vodka there. Tequila, I didn't know. I didn't know what tequila was.
Starting point is 00:06:26 But we were playing ahead of time, you know. Okay. You see what I'm saying? Like, it was kind of like, okay, this shot is coming up. Man, we're a bottle of Ace of Spades.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Somebody got a bottle of syrup. Sometime we didn't have Ace of Spades. We had to find some syrup. And you know what I mean? It was, it was. You only drink Ace of Spades, man. That's right.
Starting point is 00:06:40 You only drink Ace of Spades, baby. Kimmy J. Smith is important. You can drink the champagne you may as well. Yeah, and you know, it's a testament to our director of Spades, baby. Can we drink? You can drink the champagne, you may as well. Yeah, and you know, it's a testament to our director, Deion Taylor, and the whole infrastructure that they built around this film. Black empowerment.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Of course, Tommy, I mean, Joseph as well. But it's all about... He's wearing black. He is wearing black. You know, supporting black businesses, giving those looks, giving those opportunities, very, very important. And if you look in the kitchen, there's Branson in there and LeChemin Delroy. Oh, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Okay, I didn't mean that. I'm sorry, baby. I'm sorry I didn't mean that. You feel me? I didn't see you. Yo, that is dope. That is dope. So, Terrence, right?
Starting point is 00:07:16 Coming from the hosting background, right? 106 and Park. Since 106 and Park, there ain't been another 106 and Park. Yeah. There's been a lot of fakes. There's been a lot of fakes, there's been a lot of imitations, there's been a lot of phonies. Why do you think these shows aren't as current as they used to be?
Starting point is 00:07:32 Like the TRLs and all this. Why is it not popping no more? I think it's a different world, right? It's a different landscape. Back then, when T.I. dropped a video, you used to have to run home to watch it at 6 o'clock. Watch it at 6 o'clock. Yes, it's clock.
Starting point is 00:07:46 To see it, right? Yes. Now you can consume your entertainment in so many different ways. It's on your phone, right? You can watch any video as it drops. So the way people consumed it is different. So the outlets are different. Now you have things that have emerged like Drink Champs.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Right. That have completely changed the landscape and have done things that we couldn't do 10 years ago on a show like 106. But I think it's a beautiful thing, man. I think progression is a beautiful thing. I think that the level of ownership that people like yourself and all of these new outlets have now is a beautiful thing.
Starting point is 00:08:16 You answering this perfect, nigga. I ain't going to lie to you. You answering this perfect, man. You are very 2PR trained for drink tests. You're going to have to take some shots. I've never heard a perfect, more of a perfect answer than this that lets me know I'm not doing
Starting point is 00:08:31 my job. Hey, look, bro, he said that to me my first three times being on here, man. You know what I'm saying? Hey, man, bro pulled up on me. Hey, listen, man, what's up with us, man? Like, you just
Starting point is 00:08:45 You just be answering The answers all Correct and shit Like You know what I mean Why you so stiff bro No bullshit Nah nah
Starting point is 00:08:56 I'm fucking with you But Yeah You're right Cause content is like I remember I remember waking up And actually having to get a paper. Right?
Starting point is 00:09:08 I'm that old, right? Like, when you had to get a paper. Now, I wake up and the paper's already in my hand. Like, Twitter's my paper. Everything. Like, I don't really care about the sports section no more, because I'll find the highlights on Twitter. Like, I don't even have to go to ESPN no more at this point. Like, I'll actually, it's like, does that make the music whacker?
Starting point is 00:09:32 I think, no, not whacker. I mean, obviously, there's great songs. There's great projects coming out. I think, like, the cohesiveness of, like, having full albums, we're not seeing that as much. Because people are able to consume their songs you know you like these two songs you're listening to that as opposed to listening to a complete body of work so i think that that has changed but i you know i just think it's things are different they're not better they're not worse it's just the times have progressed like you said you can see how much brawn has dropped before you get up you know to have
Starting point is 00:10:02 breakfast right so you just consume it in a different way. So it's just progress. As it pertains to like, you know, to music, I think that it being a direct to consumer market now, we have access to more authenticity. See what I'm saying? Before, a motherfucker had to go through gatekeepers.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Right. You know, in order to go through gatekeepers, most of the time, you had to be polished and poised and had to, you know, be astute.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Right. You know what I mean? Of the system. Right. Now, you can go, anybody can make a hit. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:39 And you straight to the consumer. So it don't matter whether Kevin Liles, Puff Daddy, Lior Cohen, or... Let's pick them up, by the way. So it don't matter whether Kevin Lyles, Puff Daddy, Lior Cohen, or... Let's pick them up, by the way. You know, right on. Yeah, yeah. Those are my friends.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Russell Simmons, Craig Cabot. It don't matter whether they said it was good enough. I can go straight to YouTube. I can go straight to... YouTube's still a middleman, though. Well, I mean, but it's direct to consumer. It's still direct to consumer. It's user-generated. Well, YouTube's still a middleman, though. Well, I mean, but it's direct to consumers. It's still direct to consumers. It's user-generated.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Well, that's not a middleman, but... It's user-generated. Yes. You know what I mean? They may dictate and determine how many people you can have access to, but you can still upload it yourself and get straight to the consumer.
Starting point is 00:11:21 And that authentic... Everybody wants to see themselves. Folks, let me just tell y'all something. T.I. is so much not a rapper no more. He came early. I was disappointed. I said, wait a minute. He's supposed to be a rapper. He's supposed to be at least 15 minutes late. He came
Starting point is 00:11:35 15 minutes early and didn't check out his shoes. You got to show your shoes. Put your shoes on the table real quick. Show these people your shoes, T.I. Please. Show these people this when you know you're getting money. When you wear some shoes like this. I refuse. You refuse? I refuse to take attention away from these fine actors.
Starting point is 00:11:52 At some point, we're going to focus on the shoes. I'm telling you. And I saw you taking a picture of it. You're trying to be slick. I saw you taking a picture of it out there. Nah, I was showing it to my wife. My wife was like, you know what I'm saying, what you put on. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:03 I'm like, man. But check the shoes out, though, you know what I'm saying, what you put on? You know what I'm saying? I'm like, man, shit. But check the shoes out, though. You know what I mean? Holy, you just had a different shirt on like 20 minutes ago. Hey, man.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Oh, whoa, whoa. You took a change and get fresh on your ass. Wow, got it. Yeah, bro. Yeah. So, speaking of authenticity,
Starting point is 00:12:20 to bring it back to that, it's interesting in the movie, too, because I find a lot of young actors, I think it's so reflective of the music, exactly what Tip said, is that so much of the music that's to that it's interesting in the movie too because i find a lot of young actors i think it's so reflective of the music exactly what tip said is that so much of the music that's today it's like these guys actually have to be doing that especially i think a drill stuff it's like no no if you're not if you're not if you don't have that piece you're not you don't have these bodies i'm not listening to you and in some ways it's really difficult because it has translated into uh the acting world where it's like people, the craft of acting and
Starting point is 00:12:46 becoming somebody else is now sacrificed. It's like, no, no, we want that guy. Or I have to be, especially on the power show, these young actors are like, no, no, I got it like this. And they're talking about certain things where it's like, no, you're an actor. Like, relax about that stuff. But one of the things, too, is about in the Fear movie is that I think that we have an opportunity here.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I see it every time I watch the movie with Tip's performance. This is not T.I. You know, it's not Tip Harris. It's Lou. It's Lou. It's Lou.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And I think that, obviously, you can, they can't talk about this, but you can. And they're different. It's a different Terrence J than we're used to.
Starting point is 00:13:19 It's a different Andrew Batchelor than we're used to. Oh, you shit it on him. Oh, man. Oh. Oh. He threw you under the bus. I'm talking about dirty.
Starting point is 00:13:27 You hear me? In that second, I'm another round of dirty. I'm talking about dirty. You hear me? I need another round. I said, immediately. Because he was like, you know, Lou would do this to us. I said, damn, this is some harsh shit.
Starting point is 00:13:38 And you can tell when you're pondering that you're supposed to be cool, we've been offering bad energy for a long time. Yeah, he's been trying to get you. I've been a long time. Yeah, he been trying to get you. I been waiting on you. Yeah, he trying to get rid of you fast. I'm talking about for real. You held it down, though. You were like, where he at?
Starting point is 00:13:52 I trust you. Yeah, yeah. I got you. Yeah, I don't want to say too much. I'm good. Hey, look, man. Nah, it's a good move. Another thing, you know you wasn't seeing Terrence J.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Because I'm talking about every time we did a scene with him, like a whole 45 seconds before action, he's in character. Who, Terrence? Yeah. Nah, I ain't going to lie. You played this shit out, this role. I ain't going to lie. Look.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Look, look, look. Action. I'm telling you, bro. He didn't get paid enough because he worked way more than he had to. He was in his character at least an extra 45 seconds before everybody else. Oh, so hold on. You was method acting? Nah, this man was so.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Come on, man. Come on. I'm like, bro, hold up. They fixing the lights? And you licked the shit out of her leg, though, too. Yo. I said, what is this, man? That was a delicious chocolate chip.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Hold on. Hold on. When you. Your tongue came out and everything. I was like, look at this shit. D.R., you used that tape, man. Hey, man. That was our first thing to bloopers.
Starting point is 00:14:51 I didn't know what I was watching. When you're working with people like this, right? Joseph is so, like, classically... Like, Joseph is an actor, actor, right? Yeah, yeah, I got that. He can come in and out of the scene. He can change things. He can...
Starting point is 00:15:04 Like, he's one of the finest actors I know, right? I respect that. And then Tip, who also has tons of years of acting. Yes. Tons of years of credibility on the screen. Tip has a charm and a charisma about him that when he's in that zone. So you're saying they made you step it up? Yeah, he's unstoppable.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Me, I'm not as talented in that way. So I work very hard to try to get myself in there. You're every bit as talented. You may not be as good. I got to go all the way in. In my opinion, damn. In my opinion. Cut him off.
Starting point is 00:15:35 No, don't worry. Oh, no, my first one. But in my opinion, like, to me, Marlon Wayne's been acting for years, but that sex tublet was like that. It was like, it kind of finally showed. I think this is the one for you, like, because it kind of showed a different side of you. Like, you're always like the pretty boy, no offense. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:15:55 Like, you're always like getting the girl. How long can I be the mama's boy? I got to do something different. Getting the girl, and you out here, like, getting bit. You're throwing niggas to die. You putting niggas in the cellars. You like, you like, it's ill. Like you like, you're like, oh shit, you're not nice.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And you look at some legs, god damn it. Bearded, that's the bearded chance. The bearded, yeah. I grew a full beard for this role. I had to do it. I've seen the Beijing. I've seen the Beijing. Ah! role. I had to do it. I've seen the Beijing. I've seen the Beijing.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Now, have you ever I'm sure, Tommy, like, played a role so much that you become that role? I haven't, and I think I base it on just coming from the theater, having a theater background and training. Also, my wife wouldn't put up with that shit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:43 She's a Russian from Jersey, man. She'd kill me in my sleep. Holy shit, let's make noise for Russians from Jersey. Oh, shit. Oh, so actually, too. Okay, because one time, I don't know if I should say this guy's name, but I did a movie with him, and he just stayed in character. He was like, he just became the character, and the character was a breakout convict. So he was like a, he just became the character and the character was a uh uh he was a breakout convict
Starting point is 00:17:06 so he was like a he just stayed in what moved the door like all day and at first i was saying to myself hanging around him what an idiot right but then i acted it's not my profession but then when i started to see how people really are serious with this and people really make their whole lives with this I was like oh okay I got it have you ever been in this yeah I feel like when I started off with Tommy just like everything I always said I kept Tommy as close as I needed to um and then it's just like riding a bike you I also spent a long time months and months of being as much time as I needed to create that character, you know, and watching a ton of million 50 cent interviews. He's great on Drink Chance. Oh, God damn it.
Starting point is 00:17:49 God damn it. That's right. That's right. You know, so I did the research before I stepped it up. So when people say, oh, that Tommy character, Tommy, oh, it's great to see how Tommy changed. I'm like, Tommy didn't change at all. I mean, they changed the writing.
Starting point is 00:18:00 They changed the situations. But that guy is the first guy. The first day of the first setup or the first take we ever did is the same Tommy when we ended the Power Show. I promise you that. So the writers changed. I think that that's important for an actor to know. So, yeah, like I kept Tommy as close as I needed to keep Tommy. And then you flip it on, you flip it off.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Also, like in the Fear movie, I feel like if I was always wrong and, you know, paranoid about stuff and always thinking. Because you're a writer in the movie, right? Yeah, yeah. I was a wrong and, you know, paranoid about stuff and always thinking... Because you're a writer in the movie, right? Yeah, yeah. I was a writer and a researcher and I'm researching at the thing.
Starting point is 00:18:29 But I also... This was an... This is an unprecedented thing during the height of COVID. That's what I was going to ask. The funny thing is, Lou, T.I. character, the first one to get sick, right?
Starting point is 00:18:42 You guys all take a test. Wait a minute, spoiler alert. Oh, my bad. Oh, the first one to get sick, right? You guys all take a test. Spoiler alert. Oh, my bad. Oh, my bad. But what's funny about it is he was the only one with a mask. When he came in. When we arrived.
Starting point is 00:18:57 When you arrived. Also, don't forget, don't forget there is another female character that also has a propensity of trying to mask up. But who said I was sick? I don't know. I don't know. Accusations. So, Tip, you from Atlanta. One of the biggest things going on is Young Thug
Starting point is 00:19:21 and the Young Thug slash Gunna, right? Some people saying, ah, this is a little tricky. Uh-uh. Okay. I'm exasperated just hearing you say it. I don't even know what that means. Exasperate, I'm a guest. Yeah, overwhelmed.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Overwhelmed. Okay, all right. So go ahead. No, I'm saying I'm waiting on you to finish. I was just in here. Yeah, because from the outside looking in, I can't make, I can't place judgment because I guess I'm not in it and I don't know how Atlanta law works.
Starting point is 00:19:56 No, Atlanta law, the law is universal. Okay. So how about tip? How did you feel when you heard it? I really, man, I hated to see it. I hated to see it. At the same time, man, I just hated to see it. I really do feel that if things were explained a little bit differently,
Starting point is 00:20:21 or if he had an opportunity to speak to someone who could advise him. Meaning Gunnar? Whomever's involved that might not like the outcome of their decision. If they could have spoke to somebody and somebody could have said, man, you know, if you do this now, this is what this means. I don't think if they would have had it, like, if they would have had it Like If they would have had That advice And they would have had
Starting point is 00:20:47 The opportunity To speak to somebody I don't believe They would have made The same decision However We are all You know
Starting point is 00:20:54 We are bound To our decisions And we can't escape that Right You know what I mean But Free Free
Starting point is 00:21:03 Free slime It seems like It was a war On New York at one point, right? Like all of us, like, you know, 50 has these stories of hip-hop police following him. And then, you know, obviously I have the same stories of, you know, things happening. But it's like, now it's like, they're not in New York.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Now it seems like, seems like, from outside looking in, it seems like they're heavy on Atlanta because, is it partially because Atlanta's kind of like running the music business? Well, to be honest with you, even when, like with Hip Hop Cops and whatnot, okay, they were in New York because that's where the action was. Yeah. It wasn't just that they focused on New York. You know, New York is what they were aware of.
Starting point is 00:21:43 And so whatever they are aware of, that's what they're going to focus on. Right. Right now, they're aware of Atlanta. I mean, they're aware of everything. With the social media and everybody, like, you know, just kind of on the— they're aware of all of it. You know what I mean? So it spread out.
Starting point is 00:22:00 One thing that's funny about the case, in any other case, except for Meek Mill, in any other case, we always say, you know, it's the white people holding us back and it's the white people doing this. The DA is black. The prosecutor is black. The judge is black. It's like, damn. Man. It hurts. Man, I just miss my partner, man.
Starting point is 00:22:26 You know what I'm saying? I just miss my partner. I mean, we could get into the minutia, the politics, the bureaucracy, but when it all said and done, I just miss my little brother, man. I remember seeing bro come from nothing. I remember with the fucked up teeth, with the gappy dreads, with the, you know what I'm saying, figuring out what to wear, doing what he could, and turning that into something so, I mean, just so substantial that he could offer other people opportunities. And made other people rich.
Starting point is 00:22:59 And made other people rich. And successful. I believe he probably has reached back more than anybody in any generation. Like genuinely just reached back and just did at the kindness of his heart.
Starting point is 00:23:15 You know what I mean? And I just I just miss my partner. I done got more and I done got more thank yous from Thug than I have from some of my own artists. Wow. more, and I done got more thank yous from Thug than I have from some of my own artists.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Wow. You know what I'm saying? And thank you for just being you. I done got more appreciation. I mean, he kind of considered, he like,
Starting point is 00:23:33 yo, bro, you were the first major artist to rock with me, to believe in me. You were the first one. I guess, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:41 with About The Money, like, that was a major look for him. At least, you know, according to him. And he, you know, with About the Money, like, that was a major look for him. At least, you know, according to him. And he, you know, just always expressed, like, his gratitude. And that's more than I've received from a lot of my own artists that's on my label that, you know, I had a hand in their career for real. And he was a real good dude, bro.
Starting point is 00:24:03 And I don't think... Everything that's going on around, bro, man, I think it's a test. You know, it's a test, and it's going to become his testimony. All he got to do is continue to stand tall and stay silent. And I believe God going to work everything out.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Yeah, God bless. Let's say free thumbs. Free thumbs. Now, how did you get approached fair? Like, how did your agent call you? How does this happen? No, this is one of those great opportunities when you actually build your own community
Starting point is 00:24:36 of people that you love and trust. And as Tip alluded to before, I'm not scared to use words around you. We got a dictionary. We got a dictionary. Come on. We got a dictionary. I got a call from Dion Taylor, the great Dion Taylor. Incredible
Starting point is 00:24:53 filmmaker, cinema tour. He just gave me a call. It was July of 2000. 2020. Just at the height of COVID. We were three months in. And he's just like,
Starting point is 00:25:07 yo, Jay, I got this idea. And I was like, all right, man, break it down for me. What are we doing? And so he kind of told me about the film. And I was like, all right, all right, all right. I said, what do you want me to do?
Starting point is 00:25:17 He said, you know, I'm like, I'm not flying. He's like, get a car. He's like, all right. So I drove from Brooklyn to Lake Tahoe and I had some fun. Me and my wife. Where did y'all say it's at? Where did y'all say the thing I drove from Brooklyn to Lake Tahoe, and I had some fun. Me and my wife.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Where did y'all say it's at? Where did y'all say the thing is at? It was in Tahoe. It was in Strawberry, California. Oh, okay. Right outside of Tahoe, probably about 30, 45 minutes. Probably from here to Fort Lauderdale. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Okay. How did you get the movie approach? So Deion Taylor is a mastermind. He's also a madman. Okay. He calls you early in the morning, late at night with ideas, and he sells you, right? Terrence, you know, I've been thinking about you, man. You know, you're really talented, and people love you, and we know you from being like the mama's boy in the 106.
Starting point is 00:26:03 But, like, I think you need to dig deeper, man. We got to do a role that just is different from anything that you've ever done, man. I want you to be an asshole in this movie. I want you to be a bad guy. I want people to hate you in this film. And so he sells you in that way. And I get off the phone. And by the time I talk to my agents, they're like, you committed to doing a three-picture deal with Dion?
Starting point is 00:26:23 I'm like, yeah, we're doing movies. And before you know it, we're on, you committed to doing a three-picture deal with Dion? I'm like, yeah, we're doing movies. And before you know it, we're on set. So it's a three-picture deal? No, no, no. I probably did, knowing Dion. Okay, okay. But the beautiful thing about D is that he brought everybody to the table. All of us are producers.
Starting point is 00:26:39 All three of us are profit, know, profit participation producers at the table. So when this does well, when this grows, whatever happens, we're incentivized by having a real seat at the table. They call it on the cap table. Yeah. And there's not a lot of, you know, people in his position as a director that offer that. Right. And then it becomes once you get that as a precedent it's a it's a trickle-down effect so now i've been producing so many films it's been a back-to-back
Starting point is 00:27:11 thing for me but it's like you need those opportunities so that's what i love about this film that's what i love about it is that you know all of us had you know part of the creative all of us had a saying it was a very collaborative open process. And when you're dealing with a director and producer like D, it really is a great environment. Give him some noise for that. Yeah, D! You ain't got to be the only ghetto one with a plastic cup, man. Hey, man. Come on, we done stepped it up.
Starting point is 00:27:39 We got a bar. I'm the co-host, man. I'm the co-host. You can't tell me what to do. Wait a minute. I'm the co-host now. Man, I was listening tohost. You can't tell me what to do. Wait a minute. I'm the co-host now. Man, I was listening to- No, but how did you get the approach to do the movie?
Starting point is 00:27:49 That's what I was just about to say. Okay, cool. I was listening to Terrence talk, and it was phenomenal, the conversation that he had. And I loved it so much that I remember that that's the same conversation that he had with me. You know what I'm saying? Nah, man. Real talk, man. Dion hit my line around the same time sometime late summer in 2020, height of the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:28:15 And Dion and I have talked about doing several projects together. But this one, like the other projects, it's like, yo, I got an idea that's coming up. We're going to be shooting soon. And this one is like, nah Is like yo I got an idea That's coming up We're going to be shooting soon And this one is like Nah nah nah nah nah This is this week Right
Starting point is 00:28:30 Like now Okay I say man In COVID Yeah I say ain't nobody Shooting no movies Dion What is you I got a crew
Starting point is 00:28:38 Right If you could get here We going to shoot this movie I say damn okay You know I was impressed you know what i'm saying like this i like it you had to get tested every three days yeah all day yeah yeah okay every day that we shot every day the cdc didn't have guidelines yet oh deon taylor and roxanne event made up guidelines they called the cdc and said uh can we shoot a movie? And they're like, I don't know, can you? And they put together this list of guidelines
Starting point is 00:29:08 of what they suggested that they do. Then Dion and Roxanne brought that to the WGA, the DGA, and SAG. And then SAG said, everybody said, okay, if everybody will sign off on that, you could do this movie. We had to get tested every day that we filmed. This is when they tickled your brain.
Starting point is 00:29:25 And then they would do the sample, and then somebody would drive from Tahoe to Los Angeles to get the test results. And then it would go like this, and somebody would drive back, and then somebody would do that. Oh, y'all was living rough. Let's make some noise for y'all. I filmed Love & Hip Hop and Marist Boot Camp during the thing and I had to test every three days. So it was Monday,
Starting point is 00:29:48 Wednesday, and Friday for both shows. You know, I was filming both at the same time. One didn't believe the other. So it wasn't like, I could say,
Starting point is 00:29:55 yo, I just passed it. I love hip hop and then what you call it would let me go. That's how crazy COVID was. I remember it got so crazy here. Pharrell made all of us take a test
Starting point is 00:30:04 before he came. And then he walked through and just sat here. Pharrell made all of us take a test before he came. And then he walked through and just sat here. I was like, nigga, you take a test too? What have you even done? I'm sorry, Pharrell. I've been mad to say it. You saw my chest. Oh, that's why he had the mask on. At first, yeah. At first. And then he took a couple shots.
Starting point is 00:30:19 The mask was gone. Yeah. But we had a phenomenal time and I think that us coming together and choosing to do that one, we were so happy to be around other people. We were so happy to
Starting point is 00:30:35 be acting. To be doing a film when they were saying that the movie industry might not ever return. You know what I mean? And I think that faith we put in each other, that camaraderie we built,
Starting point is 00:30:50 you know, and the place is really haunted. Yeah. Oh, no, it was real. No, it was real. No, it was real. Oh, y'all selling the movie now? Oh, no, no.
Starting point is 00:30:58 I'm telling you, this is why y'all selling the movie. There's some real shit going on. This thing looking crazy, though. I ain't gonna lie. Strawberry Lodge is haunted. Right. For real. Wow. bro. That thing looking crazy, though. I ain't going to lie. Strawberry Lodge is haunted. Right. For real.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Wow. Wow. That story that he told about the brouhaha and the witches and the- Yeah. That's real. All right, now. That's real, bro. It was so remote.
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Starting point is 00:34:23 on the iheart radio appio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh, I like the movie. I'm sold. The only one that did, everybody stayed like on this little compound of a strip, except for Tip. He had this mansion that was like 30 minutes away. That's where I got that. That's where I got that.
Starting point is 00:34:39 But we were staying in this thing, like all of our house was connected. Yo, there was, I lifted up the bed sheet There was spiders that came out You remember that No real talk There was spiders that came out And strange bugs too
Starting point is 00:34:52 Yeah there was There was strange bugs There was noises and all that And I was like Man like Do I stay in it And D was like Live in the moment
Starting point is 00:35:00 Live in it Take it Like this is all for your case I was like Yo What, what the fuck? So you was in fear. I was in fear. You was in fear. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:10 You know, all the fear was going after this movie because we were sleeping with spiders and cobwebs and all of that. But when you look at the finished project, it's all there. It's all on the screen. Like, everybody at this point of the pandemic, it was so early on in the pandemic. Nobody was shooting anything yet. Nothing was happening. So there was like the real emotional fear taking place in real life
Starting point is 00:35:31 and all of that reflects in this movie. This is the scariest movie of the year. The scariest movie. Everybody was scared of that in addition to the fear that we had done put our money up and we didn't know what was going to happen. We had no idea
Starting point is 00:35:43 if we was even going to finish this motherfucker. We didn't know if someone would to happen We had no idea If we was even going to Finish this motherfucker You know We didn't know if Someone would get sick And the city gets shut down You know We just Yeah because if one person Got sick on that set
Starting point is 00:35:53 If one person got sick The whole fucking set Shut down Everyone right Nobody got sick Similar to like the movie Nobody got sick Once one person got sick
Starting point is 00:36:00 You got to try to get rid of everyone No negative Spoiler alert I'm sorry Oh shit My fault They going to go watch this But where is this movie Coming out on I try to get rid of everyone. No negative. Spoiler alert. I'm sorry. Oh, shit. My fault. They're going to go watch this. But where's this movie coming out on?
Starting point is 00:36:09 That's the part I didn't establish. Only in movies. Only in theaters. Only in theaters. January 27th, only in theaters. And you can go to fear.movie, type it into any search engine, and it'll bring you to the page if you want to buy tickets early. Oh.
Starting point is 00:36:21 So most films. So we going back to old school. Yeah. The movie, popcorn. Most films. Popcorn. And Almond Joyce. Popcorn.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Come on. Yes, yes. Okay. Most films will have like a studio, right? Okay. The studio. But they don't got Almond Joyce no more? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Damn, for real? Nah, man. They still got Almond Joyce. You the old motherfucker. They still got Almond Joyce. Oh, Raisin' Nuts. Raisin' Nuts. Raisin' Nuts. Sn Raise the net And as the oldest person
Starting point is 00:36:47 At this table I'll say 100 grand Okay Okay Okay So in the studio system You know You'll come with the scripts
Starting point is 00:36:56 You'll come in They'll give you the money You'll have a backing Right There'll be a You know A support of backing Right
Starting point is 00:37:02 This was all self-financed This was all You know Usanced. This was all, you know, us putting the money on to shoot this project. So when we put it out in theaters, there's just a world of possibilities. You know what I'm saying? This is not just going to a streaming service. It's not on TV. This is like
Starting point is 00:37:17 in the theaters, real, you know, theatrical release. That's fire. That's fire. I'm proud to hear that. I'm proud to hear that's making noise for them. We're going to do a quick pick. We're going to do a game. It's called. That's fire. I'm proud to hear that. I'm proud to hear that's making noise today. We're going to do a quick pick. We're going to do a game. It's called Quick Time with Slime. Usually EFN displays the rules.
Starting point is 00:37:33 He's not here today. I'm going to fuck up the rules, but I'm going to try my best to explain it. We give you a question. If you be politically correct and you pick both, or you say neither,
Starting point is 00:37:43 then you take a shot. Or you can say, you know, you can pick one. If you pick one, you don't take a shot. Pretty cool? Yeah, yeah. You didn't do that bad. Should we set up the shots beforehand? Yes, yes, yes, please.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And I look like you on vodka, right? Yeah. Okay, boom. And it looked like you was on tequila. Tequila, Okay, boom. And it look like you was on tequila. Okay, okay. And it look like you was on tequila as well. So let's get them tequilad up. I'm going to get Sirach out.
Starting point is 00:38:16 I'll take De Leon. Woo! You know what I'm saying? Come on, baby. Let's give a round of applause for a black man. Come on, baby. Tequila. What's up?
Starting point is 00:38:24 Come on. Tequila De Leon. Come on. And that Ace of Spades. on, baby. Come on, man. What's up? Come on. It's the key to the day, Leon. You need to... And then Aza Spade. Make some noise for Aza Spade, too. What's up? For Aza Spade. What's up?
Starting point is 00:38:30 What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up?
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Starting point is 00:38:37 What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up?
Starting point is 00:38:38 What's up? The best thing I know how to say in French is, and I know I'm not saying that correctly. You can say, Voulez-vous vous chez avec moi? Voulez-vous vous chez avec moi? Yeah, that's it. Yeah, I knew that. Okay, we ready? All right.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Starting with Tip first, of course. Whoa. The biggest boss here I'm the host Yes sir Yeah but not right now Okay I don't know where you
Starting point is 00:39:13 Want to go with this one Tupac or DMX You drinking You drinking Yeah just for this This is the fair cast so y'all got to drink with him. We got to drink. Listen, by the way, I'm drinking with y'all, too. Cheers.
Starting point is 00:39:34 I drank because I love Pac. Yes. I love Pac. I feel like, you know, he instilled a lot of my principles and a lot of the, I guess, the dichotomy of my personality come from, you know, him. However,
Starting point is 00:39:50 as an artist at least, however, I actually got to meet DMX personally. DMX came to my house. Wow. You know what I mean? Wow. I never,
Starting point is 00:39:59 you know, I can't, I can't chew one over the other. I respect that. That's why they picked it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah picked it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool.
Starting point is 00:40:07 We're going to keep this going. Scarface or Ice Cube? Oh, man. Cube will hate me, but I got to go with Scarface, especially since he makes an appearance in the movie. Almost. I mean, we got some love, and that's not any kind of giveaway, so I'm going with Scarface.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. Mind playing tricks on me. You don't have the drink on now. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I got to skip you on this one.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Okay. But I'm coming right back to you That works, that works Wait a minute, what that means Cause this is Cause I feel like this is I feel like this one's designed for you And I know
Starting point is 00:40:53 I know what you're going to say But I'm just still going to throw it to you anyway Organized Noise Or Wu-Tang Clan I know what Atlanta you're going to say. Hey, listen, bro. Let me just, first of all, let me say, I have
Starting point is 00:41:11 an enormous amount of genuine appreciation and respect for the Wu-Tang Clan. You know what I mean? I watch the show. I respect the roots. On Hulu? Yeah, on Hulu. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I watch the show. Yes. I respect the roots. You talking about on Hulu? Yeah, on Hulu.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I watch the show two seasons of it at least. I respect the roots. I respect the brotherhood. Organize Noir put me in the game. They were the first to welcome me on their tour bus and allow me to perform on the 99 Source Awards camera blocking rehearsal with them. I can't
Starting point is 00:41:52 go against Organized Noise at all. But not due to a lack of respect and admiration for the woo. But I'm going to go with Organized Noise By Landslide on that one
Starting point is 00:42:07 Well Landslide protect your neck I see what you did there Nah I have to man Anybody who had a personal account Who reached their arm out to me But when nobody else knew who I was And knew what I had going on Man that's lifetime appreciation
Starting point is 00:42:22 So exceptions are made for exceptional circumstances. Nice try. God damn it. That was also a perfect answer. I'm going to bounce around. Y'all tell me when to go back. I'm going to bounce around a little bit because I feel like this is more of a you question. Fab or Jadakiss?
Starting point is 00:42:41 I know you party with Fab more. Fab or Jada Kiss. The world is watching Terrence just now. When you talk about New York City, I'm going with Capone and Noriega. That was a cheat code.
Starting point is 00:43:04 That was a cheat code. That was a cheat code. Hey. That man pulled one out of that, didn't he? All right. CNN, baby. Al Pacino or Robert De Niro? Man, that's tough.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Get your shot? I think I probably need a refill. And not because I don't want to choose. I want to choose one of them. It's like just for the body of work. I mean, I'm thinking right now, the first Dog Day Afternoon came up in my mind. And that was a brilliant performance. But then heat comes up in my mind, and they just kill each other.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But not heat for me. Yeah, because that's both of them. Scarface. Yeah, Scarface. My God, Scarface. Son of a woman. Son of a woman. Son of a woman.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Yeah, that's who I, that's kind of the beginning of the Al Pacino era where he's just Al Pacino in every role. Right. Ooh. And not just,
Starting point is 00:43:55 because it's Scarface. It's a good trick. Carlitos way. Godfather. Carlitos way. What are we kidding ourselves? Let's just take a shot. Let's take a shot, man.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Let's take a shot, man. Salo. Salo. It's a trick question anyway. I'm like a shot, man. Let's take a shot, man. Salo. Salo. It's a trick question anyway. I'm like, why everybody at this table so tough? I was thinking
Starting point is 00:44:09 Meet the Falkers. I love De Niro. I love the range. I love the range of De Niro. The intern? Yeah, exactly. Oh, yeah. The thing for me,
Starting point is 00:44:20 like, I love range. So I would always put De Niro above Pacino for me. Okay. Even though I love, I mean, Pacino is legendary, obviously, but I love rings, so I would always put De Niro above Pacino for me. Even though I love, I mean, Pacino is legendary, obviously, but I love that De Niro has so much range. He got comedy, he got thrillers, he got dramas, he got all this. We could stay here all day. What's the Jimmy Hoffa movie?
Starting point is 00:44:35 I feel like Pacino, chill like De Niro, Black Gambino, die like a hero. You know what I mean? It's tough to choose. It is. It's hard a lot. It is. Terrence, you ready? Yeah. Justin Timberlrence, you ready? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Justin Timberlake or Justin Bieber? Ooh. We're drinking now. These are my producer's questions. Timberlake or Bieber? That's such a... How did we get here? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Back to your 106 and Park roots I would presume Yo if there's one thing About me I'ma be political Shots up Salud Salud Hey man
Starting point is 00:45:14 I'm not gonna keep Taking shots Hey man It's a part of the Guest's obligations And co-hosts Co-hosts obligations Okay
Starting point is 00:45:23 Who about the key Yup Drummer boy Or just Blaze Can you stop being Co-host obligations Okay Who about the key out Yup Drummer boy Or just Blaze Can you stop being For Atlanta for one minute First and foremost
Starting point is 00:45:34 I'll have you know We will let the record show Drummer boy is from Memphis Ooh I didn't know that Yeah Drummer boy from Memphis You know what I'm saying That's right
Starting point is 00:45:43 Okay He rocked with a lot of us Recipes against's right. Okay. He rocked with a lot of us. Recipes against the boot. Yeah, right on. He rocked with a lot of us in Atlanta, and he's welcome. Right. You know, he's been embraced by the town, but he's truly from Memphis. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Still a part of the city, though. You know what I mean? Can't take that from him. Even still, I'm going to go back to my personal. Me and Blaze done had hits. Even outside of big hits, sort of like Live Your Life, he did two or three of my intros to my albums in a row. You know what I'm saying? Me and Blaze, we have a more intimate working artistic relationship than Drummer Boy and I.
Starting point is 00:46:29 So I'm going to go with just Blaze. Oh, wow. Oh, shit. I should take a shot just from doubting you. I'm going to go ahead. I'm sorry. You do that. You do that.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I'll do this by myself. You do that. There you go. Round of applause. Welcome to Avenue. Taking the shot. I would have bet wrong. Okay. There you go. Round of applause. Man, what happened to Norris? Taking the shot without us. I would have bet wrong.
Starting point is 00:46:48 Okay. And what is it? Why do you think that I'm just going to automatically just go with someone just because they're from the South? Because me and you got a movie that we're planning on doing, Us in Space. Yeah. And your character is the dude that's always from Atlanta, and I'm the dude that's always from New York. No matter what we do, even in space. So I just always visualize you like that.
Starting point is 00:47:07 But those are characters, though. Those are characters, yeah. But I'm method acting right now. I'd like to produce this. Which I called it, when you put your money in, is profit for participation. I understand what that means. First dollar gross.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Okay. Okay. Because I think you're going to be politically correct. Yay or for real? Oh, that's tough. I know we're drinking now. So back to the last question. I'm going to go with Justin Bieber.
Starting point is 00:47:43 You got to take a shot. I'm going to go back. Bieber. You know what I'm saying? You got to take a shot. I'm going to go back. If you retract your statement, that's a shot for that mistake. I think you got to do a shot of like Fernet or something. How did I go back? I thought I was buying points for a few times. No, no. No, no.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Hmm. Are we talking? What are we talking? This is a shot. No, no, no, no, no. Are we talking culture? Are we talking... What are we talking? This is a shot. No, no, no, no, no. Are we talking... Deliberating. Are we talking culture?
Starting point is 00:48:07 You got some hating shots over here. Are we talking music? Are we talking overwhelm? I'm watching you. No criteria. Yeah, no criteria, man. Yeah, I'm going to take my shot. All right, take your shot.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Come on. Look, look. Take the shot. No, sir. Yeah, yeah. Two different things. For fear. For fear.
Starting point is 00:48:22 All right, come on. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. For fear, for fear. This is the most legitimate shot so far. Exactly. Okay. My man.
Starting point is 00:48:30 You ready? Yeah. Snoop Dogg or 50 Cent? 50 Cent. Damn, that's it. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that.
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Starting point is 00:48:43 That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That heard that. I almost heard that. I fought with Joe, man. Joe A, man. So look, I'm going to throw you a curveball, though. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:55 T.I. and 50 go up on the top. I want to see the verses. I'm there for the verses. I'm about the verses. Let's see the verses. You ain't let me ask the question. Okay. You know, there's the red ring and there's the blue ring. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:08 50 in the red ring. T.I. in the blue ring. Where's Joseph C. that? Mmm. Damn. Don't do that to him, man. No, I mean, first off, we're drinking. That's not fair.
Starting point is 00:49:22 That's so unfair. That's so unfair. That's so unfair. But I will give a shout out to 50 Cent because this came up recently. 50 Cent is the best boss I've ever had. Wow. He's incredibly loyal. Here's a word for you, Nor. He's didactic.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Ooh. Just so he means he likes to teach. He brings people up around him Fiff is a great person I don't want to get on his bad side but T.I. just gave you a pass
Starting point is 00:49:55 and he did and then working with Tip you see somebody who's like I gotta give Tip credit on being when ATL came out I was like nah and then you watch it and you're like, this guy's a fucking great actor. His roller skating. At first, his roller skating was shaky and he learned on the set.
Starting point is 00:50:11 And then on and on from there. And only stepped it up as an actor. And I always respect, I was so happy when he did this film. And then to work with him, he's a wonderful, kind person. After I broke my kneecap, I appreciated Tip. Got me a thank you. kneecap, I appreciate it, Tip. Got me, thank you.
Starting point is 00:50:27 You said enough. I could not have made it out alive without you. I get it. You said enough. Are we taking a shot? Let's take a shot. Come on, man. Come on. Solid, solid.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Solid. Joseph shot the movie with a broken kneecap, by the way. The whole movie. Eight days in it. He's walking the whole movie. You're like one of them basketball players that played with their ACL still fucked up? That's how... Yeah, because it was also COVID, and they were like, oh, you should go to the hospital.
Starting point is 00:50:53 I said, no way. They're dying to die. We had to get him some other forms of cortisone. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Holy shit, I wasn't ready. We made it through. And I remembered my lines.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Okay. Thank you. Come on, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Holy shit, I wasn't ready. We made it through. And I remembered my lines. Okay. Thank you. Come on, bro. All right. There you go. Eddie Murphy or Martin Lawrence? Oh, man. You got a leftover shot.
Starting point is 00:51:21 No, no, no. I'm going to answer this. I'm going to say Eddie Murphy. Okay. Martin had a lot of influence on me. I grew up in the Martin generation. I grew up watching him. Martin!
Starting point is 00:51:32 Yeah, but I think Eddie, I mean, I think Martin would say Eddie. And I think, like, I think we got to make sure we give our icons their flowers. Right. And Eddie is a huge icon. And Eddie has a movie called You People Coming Out on the Same Day. Right. On Netflix. On Netflix.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Yes. So we got to, you know, right. I love Martin. And Lauren London, by the way. And Lauren London is in there, too. Eddie and Lauren London. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Nia Long. Nia Long is playing Jonah Hill. Yeah. Yeah. Did you say what now? Jonah Hill. Yeah. Who else? Lauren London is playing Jonah Hill. Yeah. Did you say what now? Jonah Hill. Yeah. Who else?
Starting point is 00:52:07 Lauren London is playing Jonah Hill. Lauren London and Jonah Hill are a couple. Yeah. Eddie and Nia Long are Lauren's parents. And then you have Louise. Nia Long been outside lately. Let's be clear. Julie and Louise Dreyfuss.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Who? Nia Long been outside lately. Listen. Nia Long must be protected at all costs. She's going to grab Terrence's hand. I'm going to grab Terrence's hand. Am I the host or am I a guest? No, I'm asking.
Starting point is 00:52:30 I'm asking, am I a host or am I a guest? You a host and a guest. I'm a host. I need to know what, in this capacity, am I operating? I need to know what hat I'm putting on. Oh, okay. You got on both hats, sir. You always have on a lot of hats, my nigga. All right.
Starting point is 00:52:43 All right. All right. Listen, as a member of the cast in Fear, I'm going to reserve my silence. Oh, the Nia Long side. Okay. I respect that. No, I was just saying
Starting point is 00:52:55 because when... Nia Long, man, she been keeping company lately. Yeah, she been my son. No, no, no. No, first, I mean her. No, no, no. No, first, I mean, her. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:53:06 I just realized what was happening. Nia Long is like a sister. I'm just joking, bro. Yeah, she my sister, too. Listen, if Nia Long ever goes to open a door, anybody should make sure her door is open. That is a, she is an icon, and it must be protected and respected.
Starting point is 00:53:28 And she want to be outside. She deserve to be outside. God damn it. Absolutely nothing romantic. Like, no, that's family. And that just goes to show you how much preposterous nature it goes into the headlines. Yes, exactly. People put false narratives out there.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Oh, my God. You feel me? All right. Yeah, we got to go to you now. Nino Brown. Easy. Or Tony Montana. Nino Brown.
Starting point is 00:53:59 I respect that. Easy. This should have went to him, but I'm sending it to you because I want to be awkward. No, no, no, no. This one. I got a different one for you. Jeezy or Gucci, man? That is tough.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Man. I kind of want to have a shot anyway. You got one ready? Yeah. Let's take a shot, but I got to give also, let me give a shout out to Jeezy. Okay. You got to be able to bump in this game.
Starting point is 00:54:30 If you're a partner, somebody got to be able to step in. No, no, no. Ain't no tag team. Come on, take your shot, though. I've been seeing you. This shot is a dangerous shot. You know we got some shit to do after this, right? Oh, shit, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:43 This. You know it's the most. This ain't the last stop. We got some more stuff to do. This is important? Oh shit, yeah, this This ain't the last time We got some more stuff to do This is important After this Hold on, hold on, okay Ooh, okay
Starting point is 00:54:50 Nipsey or Eazy-E? Nipsey The more shots I take, the faster my response is Nipsey, Nipsey I mean, obviously It kind of goes back to what you were saying I knew Nip personally Nipsey I mean Obviously It kind of goes back To what you were saying I knew Nip personally
Starting point is 00:55:07 Right Nip was a man of respect He's a man I admired When he was here He was You know Everybody has a lot of things That they
Starting point is 00:55:16 They appreciate about him I want to take the time Out to appreciate How fly Nip was I remember You remember that Rock Nation brunch You had the yellow You remember you had That yellow suit on I do Yo Your fly Nip was. I remember, you remember that Roc Nation brunch? You had the yellow, you remember you had that yellow suit on?
Starting point is 00:55:27 I do. Yo, your man Nip came through with that. He had that, it was like that two-tone pink on, he had that pink shirt. Let's call it mauve. Mauve. You feel me? Mauve shirt with the jacket, you know what I'm saying? Came through. And obviously,
Starting point is 00:55:46 he's super smart, intellectual, philosophical, but yo, he was fly. That dude was fly. He would come in fresh to death.
Starting point is 00:55:55 He was funny. He was fly. I got to go with Nipsey Hussle. Definitely. I would like to take some time to just point out how courageous
Starting point is 00:56:02 in business he was. Right. You know what I mean? Because there's already like a template or a protocol, you know what I mean? Like an outline in ways the industry has kind of put forth for us to do business. And he challenged that protocol. Yes, he did. You dig what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:56:23 I remember him calling me Asking me how I turned You know my merch item The Hustle Gang sweatshirt Into an entire line The A-Ku Well no A-Ku was already in existence This was my second line
Starting point is 00:56:37 Okay Hustle Gang And he was like Yo bro how you do that And I basically told him And I went and found some people Who could do the marketing And distributions and who could handle the sales department so I could focus on other things. And he said, well, you got a spot in Atlanta?
Starting point is 00:56:55 I said, no, because, and to be honest with you, this is still a thing. 16 years into a partnership, still a thing. My partners don't want to do retail at all, but I think we should have a flagship store in Atlanta. And he was like, well, why you ain't got no spot in the A? I was like, bro, you know, partners don't want to do it. I don't really, you know, I got so much other stuff I'm working on. I watched him take that conversation and went and did the exact opposite of what I told him I was doing.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Wow. He didn't find a partner. He learned marketing. He learned distribution. He learned sales. And he bought a property that made a flagship store Like the home base And he was the first person I seen use a QR code You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:57:52 Like how we go to a restaurant And take a picture Of whatever we looking at And we get the menu Like he was the first person I seen really do that effectively What was he doing that with? He was doing that
Starting point is 00:58:03 At the marathon store Like that's how you can learn About the items And get the pricing Oh okay And he had I think Snoop got that On his bottles
Starting point is 00:58:10 Or wine right now Yes But to me The first person I saw do it Was Nip Wow And that shit was just
Starting point is 00:58:17 So impressive to me It was just so impressive I knew Nip I didn't know him As well as you guys But I'm always impressed When the stories I hear Because like he always Like showed me love And told me like You know I knew Nip I didn't know him As well as you guys But I'm always impressed When the stories that I hear Because
Starting point is 00:58:25 Like he always like Showed me love And told me like You know Like You know Like Every time I met him
Starting point is 00:58:32 He made it about me He's like yo No you know man I looked And I was like I remember Me being shocked Because
Starting point is 00:58:37 I'm not used to that This young generation Doing that I'm not used to them Showing the love back You know what I mean Right So yeah rest in peace Nips Right I'm not used to them showing the love back. You know what I mean? Right. So, yeah, rest in peace, Nips.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Right. I'm going to go to you. Huh? I'm going to go to you. Eminem. We're done with this. No, no, no, no, no. We almost done.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Eminem or Busta Rhymes? You know what? Thank you, Black Man. Come on, man. What are you doing, bro? This is like Eminem. What's up, man? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Look, man. I'm going to go bust the rhymes. I'm going to go bust the rhymes, not because I don't have an enormous amount of respect and admiration for him. But Buss, we done spoke recently. You know what I'm saying? We done spoke recently.
Starting point is 00:59:27 We were in Dubai together. We had a bit of adversity to overcome, but we overcame it together as a family. Not Dubai. I'm sorry. Saudi Arabia. Saudi. With Khaled, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Y'all ain't smoking weed out there. And he, no, man. You know that's frowned upon out there. Yeah, yeah. I'm fucking with you. You know, can't nobody do no shit smoking weed out there And he Nah man You know you can You know that's frowned upon Out there Yeah yeah I'm fucking with you You know can't nobody Do no shit like that Out there
Starting point is 00:59:49 Who would do a thing like that Come on man Knock it off You gonna feed Into the propaganda Nah I'm asking I'm just curious
Starting point is 01:00:01 Nah anyway So Man Buzz has always Been a brother to me. He's another one of the guys that, you know, you see in the game. And when you speak to him and you try to show him all this admiration, all this love and respect, and he turn it back and make the conversation be about you. You know what I mean? Yeah, he does.
Starting point is 01:00:23 You know what I mean? And I bet you if you asked Buss the same question he would say, or if you asked Em the same question he would say Buss. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:29 I feel you. I feel you. Em is dope like that. Man, Em to me though, I feel like let it be made perfectly clear. He don't have to
Starting point is 01:00:40 fuck with nobody. But still he does. You see what I'm saying i love his speech so i gotta admire i gotta show some admiration to him and salute him for that do you see his speech where he just thanked all them hip-hop pioneers it just made my respect for him yeah he like i think it was the rock and roll hall of fame i'm not sure was it and he got up there where he could he could thank like anybody in the world He's out there Just thank all the
Starting point is 01:01:06 Hip hop pioneers Like Ice Cube LL And it was just like It was just like so dope Like you know what I mean It sound like him though Yeah
Starting point is 01:01:13 It was dope And I was also impressed When I went to do my record With him And I saw how much Of a business He worked his shit Like a fortune 500 office
Starting point is 01:01:21 Sessions with With Norit Gonna be like Okay 8pm 10. Sessions with Nori gonna be like, okay, 8 p.m., 10 p.m. Sessions with Tilt, sessions with Tilt
Starting point is 01:01:30 might be, you know, anywhere from 6 p.m. to midnight. Sessions with M, 9.30 a.m. Oh, no, I'm like that.
Starting point is 01:01:37 He's about this motherfucker at 5.30, 6 p.m. And that's that. And I, you know, I learned that from him, that way of, you know of kind of applying your time
Starting point is 01:01:48 in the same time of daylight as other industries. Me and Pharrell, back in the day, 9 o'clock at night, me and Pharrell, 10 a.m. We old men, we kids. 10 a.m., God damn it. But yeah, Pharrell and I had the same working hour, but I was on work release
Starting point is 01:02:05 You know what I'm saying I was kind of like Clocking out Oh Jesus And then coming And Which is a crazy story That applies to
Starting point is 01:02:14 To BMF That we could talk about Because that's another 50 show And we'll do that Another time Yeah Okay
Starting point is 01:02:20 Great second Okay By the way Carlito Way Or Donnie Brasco? Pinchy Way. That's a tough one, too. My God.
Starting point is 01:02:32 I love both of them movies. I'm going to say... I'm going to say Carlito's Way. Yeah, me too. Okay. You ain't got to take a shot for that. That means you picked one. Oh, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:02:46 That's how fucked up we've been. We've been taking shots for everything. Okay. Timbaland or Swiss? Ooh. Damn. I'm going to go with The Monster. Swiss.
Starting point is 01:03:01 I'm going to go with Swiss beats The Monster. I love Tim. Love. But I'm going to go with Swiss beats. Personal records that really changed my life. I'm going to go with Swiss beats To Monster I love Tim Love But I'ma go with Swiss beats Personal records That really Changed my life
Starting point is 01:03:08 I'ma go with Swiss That's what's up Miami or LA So the name of this We went this way But this segment The name of this I know but the name
Starting point is 01:03:21 Of this segment Is Rapid Fire Yeah no Quick Time with Slime Quick Time with Slime Yeah Quick Time with Sly? Yeah, yeah. Bruh, we been on this shit. How many rounds is this?
Starting point is 01:03:30 It's a number of rounds. It's good to get the guess, fucker. God damn. You can't be blowing us up. You on this side and that side. You got to break both sides. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:03:39 I'm just asking. I'm going to take a shot. Okay. Okay. What was that for? Miami or LA? Miami or LA? All right. I respect that. Come on. Salute. I'm going to take a shot Okay Okay What was that for? Miami or LA? Alright I respect that Come on
Starting point is 01:03:49 Salute Salute Cass I'm going to take a shot man Yeah Okay man I'm going to go Relieve my brother Yeah yeah go ahead
Starting point is 01:03:55 I'll be right back Alright yeah that's cool You got your other They going to hold it down for you You did Alright Young Thug or Kodak Black? I'm going to go Young Thug or Kodak Black? I'm going to go Young Thug.
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Starting point is 01:04:30 I'm J.R. Martinez. I'm a U.S. Army veteran myself, and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Honor, Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Podcast. From Robert Blake, the first black sailor to be awarded the medal, to Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice. These are stories about people who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor,
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Starting point is 01:07:23 You'd rather be feared Or loved Oof I want the love I want the love too I can't get enough I want the love too Can I comment on that real quick That there's
Starting point is 01:07:35 Everybody always lies to you And says that It's better to be feared Than be loved That is such bullshit It's better to be loved so much That people are afraid To let you down
Starting point is 01:07:43 God damn it Wow God damn it I you down. God damn it. Wow. God damn it. I want the love. God damn it. Oh, that was dope. That was dope. That was probably the best answer.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Raekwon or Ghostface? Oh, my God. I know my answer, but I should probably drink. Yeah, I think so. I'm going to drink with you. I ain't letting you out there by yourself. Salud. You can skip this one, Terrence.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Terrence, you look like you was coming from Eddie Murphy's show right now. You got the leather on, the good carnies. I got it in my eyes, man. You ain't got it. You look like, listen, I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 01:08:33 You so smooth right now. You either look like you was coming from an Eddie Murphy show or a New Edition show. It's either like, you smooth, my brother. I love it. I admire you, man.
Starting point is 01:08:42 I like that. I like that. Oh, shit. I lost my questions. Hold on. All right. Ooh. Yo, MTV Raps or Rap City?
Starting point is 01:08:52 Oof. Rap City all day. Big Tigger? My brother, Big Tigger. Which girl? Yeah, Big Tigger? Nah, when I started, you know, at BET, I was pretty much, Tigger was my mentor. Wow.
Starting point is 01:09:04 You know what I'm saying? Wow. I was pretty much Tigger was my mentor Wow You know what I'm saying Wow Like he He taught me the game Him and Jason Riley Taught me and my brother Fred The game You know
Starting point is 01:09:11 And when I was starting on the show Like I was sleeping on the car Tig would like Get me gigs Tig would give me clothes Sneakers Like all of that Cause I was coming fresh
Starting point is 01:09:21 Big Tig a good person Okay Yeah I was coming fresh out of college And we didn't have much. And Big Tigg, like, completely made sure. Like, it was never, like, animosity coming into the building with him. Because he was, Tigg was hosting 106 and Park at the time of the transition. For, tentatively, though.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was there. Because he was, you know, he was a staple at the network. He was on so many shows. So, you know, and I think they should bring Rap City back, you know? Yeah, they did. It didn't work. Okay, but bring it back again.
Starting point is 01:09:52 I'm going to produce it this time. Bring it back again. Yeah, no, I agree with you, though. They should bring it back. Bring it back. I respect that. You know what I never understood? Hold on, brother.
Starting point is 01:10:01 We're going to finish this quick time with slime. And it's going to get right to you. You sure? Because this shit been running for a while. It's right to you. UGK or 8-Ball MJG Hold on, brother. We're going to finish this quick time with slime, and it's going to get right to you. You sure? Because this shit been running for a while. It's right to you. UGK or 8-Ball MJG? Man, bro. I just said that.
Starting point is 01:10:15 I love the evolution of T.I. on Drink Jazz. We're going to show every episode. It's the same shit. And it's always wonderful. It's always a treat when the players meet Um shit Okay Okay
Starting point is 01:10:28 There's only two more questions This is your last one though You got one more It's your last one You got one more I'm calculating it I'm sorry Um Shit It's your last one. I got you. Then you got one more. What? My fault, my fault. I'm calculating it. I'm sorry. Shit.
Starting point is 01:10:53 Man, on the pimp, I got to go UGK. Okay. Okay, that's what's up. On the pimp, I got to go UGK. I'm going to you. Now, your outfit already says who you're going to pick. Puff Daddy or Dr. Dre I thought I told you that I'm just saying I could be wrong
Starting point is 01:11:17 I could be wrong I can help you Now What y'all wanna do Wanna be ballers Shot callers, brawlers Yo, so yo, back to stories So it's 2006, 2007 maybe
Starting point is 01:11:33 First BET Awards ever Puff Daddy got me my first tailored suit ever Like he tailored me, got the whole thing Had the tailor come by Woo Make sure I was super fresh to death Like I don't care what nobody say about Puff man
Starting point is 01:11:51 Puff Is one of those people who Change the game That's right You know what I'm saying Like when we think about what we do now Yep Private jets
Starting point is 01:12:01 Yes You know Big yachts Yes You know how to dress How to move Go here go there Like Puff is just
Starting point is 01:12:09 One of those people That has always opened the door So I gotta go I gotta go with Puff Daddy God damn Shout outs to Revolt Shout outs to Shout outs to Revolt TV
Starting point is 01:12:20 We happy where we at Tribe Called Quest Or Brand Newbie to a Bogey B. We happy where we at. Tribe called Quest or Brand Newbian? Oh, man, that's easy for me. That's Tribe all day, but I love Brand Newbian. Okay. I love Brand Newbian,
Starting point is 01:12:35 but Tribe was such a part of my life. I don't think we hear enough from Grand Poobah. Grand Poobah, we need Grand Poobah. Yeah. I love that,
Starting point is 01:12:44 the Golden Arrow, that was amazing. But like Tribe, you know, being a graffiti writer in Chicago, it was just like, man, Tribe was an anthem. It was an anthem stuff for us. There's just something about that. I mean, the whole Zulu nation was dope, but like Tribe is up there for me. I wore a native tongue shirt the other day. None of the youngins knew what the fuck I was wearing.
Starting point is 01:13:05 I know Chris Lofton on the show. Chris Lofton who plays Jannard on the Power Show. He's always just like, he did a tweet today about something about like, there's old school stuff and this and that. I was just like, I can't even like talk to him. I was just like, man, come on, lyricists, lyricists. God damn it. Lyrical champions, come on.
Starting point is 01:13:20 All right, this is the last one. Lord Jamar is still, you know, very present. Yes. I think we need to hear more. Grand Poobah? Yes, yes. Okay, this is a question for all three of y'all. This is not a trick question,
Starting point is 01:13:33 on the contrary to popular belief. Listen, what y'all believe? And I'm going to ask all three of you at the same time. Loyalty or respect? Man, aren't they the same thing? Let's get shots. To me, that's the only time we're supposed to take shots.
Starting point is 01:13:50 It's that. You can't have one without the other, though. Okay, that's exactly what I'm saying. You can't have one without the other. It's the oxymoron. I can take one of Terrence's ten shots over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got some stashes over here.
Starting point is 01:14:01 I feel. I feel. He my friend, so I ain't going to let him get away. I'm almost, something is compelling me to say loyalty. Right. I feel like loyalty is the ultimate sign of respect. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:14:17 Like, if you respect your, like, loyalty is like. Sounds like both to me, sir. I was just trying to get out of the shot. You can't have one without the other. You cannot have one without the other. Damn it. Come me, sir. I was just trying to get out of the shot. You can't have one without the other. You cannot have one without the other. Damn it. Come on, brother. Your manicure is saying take a shot.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Come on. Let's go. Yeah, y'all lit now. We lit now. Now this is it. We're the director. We're the director. And he got you up.
Starting point is 01:14:45 Should we turn the cameras down now? Now the interview's really going to start. You've never been to a workout with Hino? Hino gets you fucked up first and then be like, now we're going to work out. Nigga, what did we just do for 45 minutes? You a foul nigga? Yeah, I seen you here.
Starting point is 01:14:57 That's why I said it. That's why I said it. I seen you here. But T.I., recently, right, this footage. Oh, wow. Recently, I don't know what I'm saying. This footage of you saying something about your cousin passing away and you addressing it, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:22 And real street niggas know what you meant, right? But there's certain people. It's always that, isn't it? There's always certain people who always say that. And know what you meant, right? But there's certain people. It's always that. There's always certain people who always say that. And I'm just wondering, right? Like, with, you know, people try to say, you know, what happened before. And your paperwork turned out great. Your paperwork turned out clean, everything.
Starting point is 01:15:42 Why would you even entertain that? I never entertained that. No, I'm talking about When you said The cousin part Oh but Because I was having The conversation Prior to that interview Okay With a homeboy man
Starting point is 01:15:51 Okay And we were on Different sides of the argument Oh And they just took that piece Yeah I got But that's your footage though Yeah it is
Starting point is 01:15:58 It's my footage Okay I stand behind it Okay okay I stand behind it Um And I ain't clear Shit up This the first time I've ever even said Anything about it. I stand behind it. And I ain't clear shit up.
Starting point is 01:16:05 This is the first time I've ever even said anything about it because I don't care what a motherfucker think. Right, right, right. It's real motherfuckers who locked up right now. Right. Both. They're doing time for their crime. They know I did time for them.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Right. I went to jail so they wouldn't. Wow. Motherfuckers who doing time Right now Right Real shit That know that
Starting point is 01:16:29 About me And also It's motherfuckers Who doing time right now That know That I know some shit That I could've helped them Right
Starting point is 01:16:37 Get You know what I mean But I didn't Right And I kept it I kept it solid 100% Right
Starting point is 01:16:44 And I care more about What 100%. Right. And I care more about what they think about me because they actually been in situations with me. You get what I'm saying? Right. With other motherfuckers on the outside, what they think, feel, what their opinion is, I can't allow myself to get
Starting point is 01:16:59 caught up in that. I can't give people... Because no real person believes that you... I'm the only motherfucker being called a rat who ain't put nobody in jail. I can't get people. Because no real person believes that you. I'm the only motherfucker being called a rat who ain't put nobody in jail. Like, I ain't never. You know what I'm saying? It ain't nobody. It ain't nobody who done raised their hand and said, yeah, he told on me.
Starting point is 01:17:19 However, I understand, bro. Most people are controlled by the majority of the things that they see and are exposed to. And so once there's a narrative that's been created and it's pushed out there, the motherfuckers who see it the most, they're going to go with what most people are saying. With this particular instance, with my cousin, what I didn't elaborate to say is, first off, the case was resolved by Louise Hornsby. And it was a motion to suppress due to they didn't have a right to search the car. Illegal search of seizure. You know what I mean? Now, in the holding cell, me and my cousin,
Starting point is 01:18:10 we had a conversation. First of all, my cousin wasn't a felon. Like, it wasn't shit for him to have no gun, as long as it was legal. Right. You feel me? In Atlanta, all of y'all, everybody got legal guns. But they were back in 2000 2000, 2001
Starting point is 01:18:25 Something like that So It wasn't shit for him to have no gun And I'm his little cousin Who had an opportunity To move on He was already saying Surprise, you being T.I.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Yeah So he was already saying Yeah, man I'ma take the gun And you, you know You'll handle the rest of the shit. And I just know that this is a fabrication of a motherfucker's, like, motherfuckers fantasize about shit, about people they have no access to. And they just imagine.
Starting point is 01:19:03 And this way it work out in their mind. So I can't allow their. And they just imagine. And this way, it work out in their mind. So I can't allow their fantasy to become my reality. I just can't do it. That's real tough. Like I said, man. We're taking a shot for that.
Starting point is 01:19:18 Can I have some water, please? What you need water for? They don't do no drinking. There's no chasers I see management coming out I don't think There's some water out here I don't think that shit
Starting point is 01:19:33 Had no bearing on my It don't have no bearing On my daily It don't really affect me All the real people Who I know Who done did time before Who done really really
Starting point is 01:19:42 Like stood in the trenches Ain't nobody worried About that shit But the motherfuckers Who typing on the internet know who done did time before, who done really, really, like, stood in the trenches. Right. Ain't nobody worried about that shit but the motherfuckers who typing on the internet. Yeah, Twitter finger people. Yeah. Definitely. But what made you ask that? You thought that was a tough question.
Starting point is 01:20:00 No, actually, I just Googled you. Just to go see my friend. Damn, that the first thing you pop up? Yeah, it was one of them. I tell that to Busta, I tell that to Nas sometimes and I'll be like, yo, just because I'm your friend and your family, when you come sit down, I'm still going to Google you.
Starting point is 01:20:16 I'm going to still do my research because I don't want to miss a question and people be like, yo, why you didn't ask that or why you didn't ask that? Like when... But can I ask a question though? Yeah, yeah. What?
Starting point is 01:20:29 He Googled the shit out of you. Tell me. Where's that bathroom? Yeah, go ahead. This is good, this is good. Why does that shit become like so... Because... Okay, ask.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Why does that shit become so important to ask? No, because you know what it was? It's your footage, right? Right. So, obviously, you put it out. Right. And then people are trying to use that footage against you, right? Sure.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Which is crazy, which I'm sure you proofread your book before you threw it out. So, you knew that this was there. It ain't nothing I was trying to hide. Right. And I'm going to go on to say this. When I told you the conversation or the descriptors that I was having with one of my own, one of my partners, he was like, man, I ain't finna do that.
Starting point is 01:21:14 The conversation came from, if we in a case together and I die, put it on me. God bless. Put it on me, bro. If I'm dead and you can go home, man, put the case on me God bless Put it on me, bro If I'm dead And you can go home Man, put the case on me
Starting point is 01:21:29 You hear me? Yeah, yeah And unless it was some shit You know I wouldn't be a part of If I was alive You know what I'm saying? If you got some dope And I'm gone
Starting point is 01:21:39 And you're like, man, shit It wasn't mine, so Man, why not, bro? You still have a life to live after I'm gone. Why would I expect you to... Like, where is the logic in that? What? Where is the logic in that?
Starting point is 01:21:57 But I see where people are so closely connected to it because you got to think about the origination of the police. And you got to think about you. The thing about you is you're the trap king. So people, like, kind of like, they want to discredit you. I'm the trap originator. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:22:14 I'm the king of the South. I'm the trap originator. You hear me? I'm trap music originator. I like that talk. I like that talk. I'm the king of the South. I don't believe that there is a monolithic view or opinion that makes one more eligible or not for another. I just feel like, bro, to be a king or a person of authority is about making tough decisions. And making tough decisions about considering all factors involved.
Starting point is 01:22:52 Now, there are some things based on your integrity, based on your morals, based on the principles that you've instilled in yourself that you just ain't going to do. And then it's a bunch of other shit that you just got to figure out how to kind of make that shit work into the best case scenario for yourself. I ain't just going to say I ain't I'm not going to say another thing that we've talked about before. The commercial. I'm not going to say no. I'm not going to tell law-abiding citizens not to call the police so I can, you know, not be of benefit to a downward departure.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Not going to do that. Because you know why? Law-abiding citizens are going to call the police anyway. And stay right. And guess what? Street niggas were never going to call the police anyway. That's they right. And guess what? Street niggas was never going to
Starting point is 01:23:47 not snitch. They was never going to not keep it silent because they seen me on a commercial. It was never going to be no nigga to say, you know what? I wasn't going to tell, but I just seen that nigga tip on that commercial, man. I'm going to go on here
Starting point is 01:24:04 and do my thing man Call my lawyer That shit don't happen Yeah You feel me? Yeah Um But I love my motherfucker
Starting point is 01:24:13 I love I love my stats I ain't never put no I ain't never called the police To put nobody in jail I ain't never took Stand and say nothing To get no nigga no ounce
Starting point is 01:24:21 In no time Right I ain't never So you know But it's people who hanging out with real life documented tellers and they get they pick up their phone and they type and say yeah ti you didn't but what about the guy who called you just hopped that up you just hopped out the car with a guy that you know did this and sent X amount of guys up the road.
Starting point is 01:24:45 But you still dealing with him. But you want to pick up your phone and talk about me. That's the conundrum. As I see it. Crazy. Crazy. But continue on.
Starting point is 01:24:58 No, come on. I feel like we should take a shot for something. Come on, Ted. Where's this child over here? This is bothering me. This little one right here. What is it doing? There's a secret one?
Starting point is 01:25:09 He needs it. You saving it for later? Just in case. Yeah. So how did you initially meet 50? Getting cast in the show. I didn't meet 50
Starting point is 01:25:18 until I auditioned for the show and I barely met him then. Then when I got cast in the show, it was a different story. I went over there with Omari Hardwick, who played Ghost.
Starting point is 01:25:26 We went to the G-Unit offices that were at 40th and 8th Street. They're not there no more. And Fifth just gave me a hug. Said, man, did a great job. And this is after he sued Audition Tapes? No, no.
Starting point is 01:25:41 I had to audition five times for the role of Tommy. And I'm the only one cast out of New York, which I'm proud of. It was great. It was a lot. I just thought they're never going to cast me. They're going to cast some guy who doesn't know.
Starting point is 01:25:57 Not that I was ever dealing copies of Monster Drugs, but I have a certain amount of played in the streets. It was great to explore that part of my life as a kid and play bass a lot of Tommy on guys I was scared of. May I ask a question
Starting point is 01:26:11 as the co-host? Yeah. So. Now you're getting into it. Take a shot for me, your goals. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. What about a shot
Starting point is 01:26:20 for you of these fears? Hey, look, check this out. As the guy going in to audition for this role You see that you came in five times You got what? Five times is four callbacks, right? Yep
Starting point is 01:26:32 Okay Who was your competition? What other guys were you up against? Initially That you thought you would have lost to At the first audition It was, you know They're throwing spaghetti at the wall. Right.
Starting point is 01:26:46 And there's a lot of... Is that a saying? That's the real thing. No, that's the real saying. It's like spitballing. Oh, okay. You know what I mean? I didn't think it was a true thing. I saw it, and I would like to say it was an Italian mom who did it,
Starting point is 01:27:01 but it was actually a Mexican friend of mine whose mom threw spaghetti at the wall. She was like, what is she doing? But it works. Yeah, so I saw a lot of guys who were very classically handsome and didn't necessarily feel like there was any threat in them. Not that I do necessarily, but I mean, I knew that the Tommy character had to have it. Initially, his name was Eddie O'Neal, which is not quite as threatening either. And then...
Starting point is 01:27:29 You mean to tell me you were concerned to losing the role of Tommy to Eddie O'Neal? Oh, Eddie O'Neal, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I was concerned of losing the role of Tommy to... I don't know Eddie O'Neal, by the way. Standard Hollywood. Standard Hollywood is, you know, it's kind of a template.
Starting point is 01:27:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, to bring this back around to Deion Taylor, and I got to give a shout-out to my guy Omar Joseph, as well, the second team director who's a...
Starting point is 01:27:56 Mr. and Mrs. Omar Joseph. Oh. Where's Deion? Deion on the left? Deion on the left? Where's Deion at? Yeah. Oh, I remember
Starting point is 01:28:05 You probably moving ahead Or doing another interview Or something We got business It's a movie coming out This Friday You know what I mean It's already out
Starting point is 01:28:16 Well okay Last Friday A movie came out last Friday But I'll make it super succinct For you Tip Is that Out of the five auditions For the Tommy role The first one I was just like No they don't get it A movie came out last Friday. Mr. Leigh-At. But I'll make it super succinct for you, Tip. Out of the five auditions for the Tommy role, the first one I was just like, no, they don't get it. Then you get the callback. And that was just for putting yourself on tape with the casting director.
Starting point is 01:28:33 Second audition was back with casting with notes from the people. They sent it to 50 evidently and some other people, blah, blah, blah. The third audition was a guy named David Knoller, Anthony Hemingway. Shout out to Anthony Hemingway, my man. And Courtney A. Kemp, one of the brilliant creators of the show. And they then called me back for a chemistry read with Omari Hardwick because initially the role was going to be 50 Cent. But then 50 didn't want to have such an incredible amount of workload to work, so then Omari was the guy. So then we all had to do a chemistry read to see if we chemically, whatever, I don't
Starting point is 01:29:11 know, whatever the hell that people see with that stuff. And then there was the final network test with the bigwigs. And then I finally got the Tommy rule. That's hard. Now, my question was, who would, because every time we go and read for a role, there's always this other person that they're considering. And I'm going to tell you
Starting point is 01:29:30 how I know. So, I got the role of ATL because Dallas Austin came to me about his first movie. And this was like... I love that movie, by the way, Tim. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:29:42 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. But I got that movie, by the way, Tim. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Appreciate it. But I got that role because Dallas Austin came to me when he was working on his first movie, and I was working on my second album. And he'd been hearing a lot about me in the city and shit,
Starting point is 01:29:59 and he was like, yo, I want you to be in my movie. I was like, I bet. He was like, yeah, go read for it. So I went and read for it. And they was like. You know, when he said read for it, you knew that meant audition? I did. Okay.
Starting point is 01:30:12 I did. Continue, because most people don't know. Yeah. They think like, read for it. I watched two-part interviews. And like, I just saw like two-part interviews and then Ice Cube interviews. And like, they, you know. They broke it down.
Starting point is 01:30:22 I kind of understood the process. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah i did um but anyway so i i i went in and read and they were like yeah yeah it's good can you play the drums i'm like no they're like well you're gonna have to learn how to play the drums for this role i was like i can learn how to play like i know how to play drums You know what I'm saying And they was like Alright I never got called back Come to find out Some Nobody Named Nick Cannon
Starting point is 01:30:52 Came and got the role for me It's what drum line Yeah I'm talking about drum line So So after that right Me and Nick talk about it all the time It's one of my Okay hold on You went too fast with this story.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Hold on. Flipped on you. Hold on, hold on, hold on. We don't have so much time. We got to go somewhere. We got to. You said that the director. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Told you to read. Well, it was the producer. His name was Dallas Austin. Dallas Austin. And you went and it was drum line. It wasn't drum line as we know it now. It was drum line before it came out. You dig what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:31:29 There's a difference. You feel me? But even still, you know, because of the reputation of Dallas Austin, I took it very seriously. And I, you know, read for it. Went, prepared. And, you know, they fought with me. They liked me.
Starting point is 01:31:50 But they was just like, can't you play the drums, nigga? And I was like, nah. But I can pretend to play the drums on camera. Yeah, Nick learned how to play the drums. Nick wanted it way more than I did. But that led to Drumline Came Out became a phenomenal, historical, legendary piece. Yes. And Nick Cannon was the person for that role, by the way.
Starting point is 01:32:23 Because he showed the commitment. He showed the dedication. But when I started seeing Dallas in the studio, I was like, hey, nigga, next time, bro. I ain't reading for no more role. He was like, nah, I got another one coming up, man. You got it. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:32:40 It's you. And that role was Rashad in ATL. Wow. You know what I mean So and then I always You didn't have to read for it I didn't have to read for it How old were you at the time I was 23
Starting point is 01:32:51 Oh so Damn I was 23 And then Me and Nick We you know When we see each other He always say
Starting point is 01:33:01 Shit If you'd have got that role I would have got ATL I said you'd have got that role I would have got A.T.A. I said you'd have Fucked that one up Now we all Google Can you
Starting point is 01:33:26 Can you Read how many movies He did Has Come on Cause we done Googled him And his
Starting point is 01:33:32 Your movie Is crazy Right But let's get back to that Once he pulls it up Yeah We see Get Out Yep
Starting point is 01:33:43 Is this inspired by Get Out? Because we don't see too many black horror movies, right? Yeah. No, you don't, man. You know what? I wouldn't say inspired by Get Out. I was making horror films before Jordan was making horror films. Really?
Starting point is 01:33:58 Okay. Okay. Yeah, I'm into this. I've been at this for a while, man. My first film was a horror film called 75. And I followed that up with a movie called Chain Letter. Then I had a whole anthology horror series 14 years ago before anthology was cool. That was called Night Tales.
Starting point is 01:34:20 So I've been at this for a while, man. So going back to horror was pretty cool. But I chose horror early on because that genre, the one great thing about it is you don't need a star in your movie. So where people are trying to make you- You should sit on all these niggas just now, right? I'm just fucking with you. Well, that's actually funny, right? It's actually really funny.
Starting point is 01:34:43 No, but when you jump into horror, what's really cool is if you don't have a budget or you don't have the real type of money that you need for a real film, horror is incredible based on the fact that you don't know who Jason is or Michael Myers is or Freddy Krueger is, right? So you can get a group of dope actors and then just find a monster or a thing that could be in that film that could allow it to work internationally and domestically. So, yeah. Damn, 15 moves.
Starting point is 01:35:07 Goddamn, you out here. Okay, yes. Yeah. Does he have to take a shot? Yeah, he's got to take a initiation shot. No, no, no, no. I feel like...
Starting point is 01:35:17 What are you drinking? What are you drinking? This is all I need right here. Cranberry juice. You got to take a long swig of the cranberry juice. No, we got to take a shot for fear.
Starting point is 01:35:25 Oh, that's right. For fear. But you know what I loved about the film is they all sit around this bonfire, right? Yep. That's what it's called?
Starting point is 01:35:33 That's right. Bonfire? That's right. You ever sat around a bonfire? Nah. I tried to set it up. I live on the beach.
Starting point is 01:35:40 It didn't work out for me. Right, right. I live on the beach. I was like, the absolutely black and Latino came out of me. It was like, I lived on the beach, you know, so I tried to, I was like, I was like, the absolutely black and Latino came out of me. It was like, I have a lot of white friends now. They should have been there that day.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Diego should have been there that day. Help me out. Where was you at? But anyway, they sit around a bonfire, right? And then they all say their fears. Yep. And ironically, it seems like all of their fears came and haunted them. Whatever what they said, for instance, one, I don't want to say who, a person said that they were scared of the police because they had got pulled over.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Yeah. Right? And then when, ironically, when he passes away, it's something to do with that, or at least he visualized that. That's right. So is that the premises of this is the reason why it's fair? Because he's writing the book of... Ron. Ron.
Starting point is 01:36:32 I thought it was Ron. Ron with an M. Okay, Ron is writing the book. And at first you're thinking this is, I'm going to be honest, you're thinking this is a crazy white guy who brings his black friends away. That's what it's supposed to do
Starting point is 01:36:47 You're supposed to feel that right Like you felt it right Yes Okay That's the movie That's actually how It's supposed to You're actually supposed
Starting point is 01:36:58 To feel that way But no What the movie is about is The fear is about the mind Right The manifestation of the mind The most powerful thing On the planet is about the mind. Right. The manifestation of the mind. The most powerful thing on the planet Earth
Starting point is 01:37:08 is the human mind. Mm-hmm. Whatever it can conjure up or create is the scariest thing that you could actually see. Right. So what the movie deals with
Starting point is 01:37:17 is the power of manifestation. Mm-hmm. So the idea is someone like yourself right now with this incredible show that we're all on. God damn it. You manifested this. Yes, I did. Right? So you've seen show that we're all on. God damn it. You manifested this.
Starting point is 01:37:25 Yes, I did. Right? So you've seen this. This was a vision. Now we can actually see it in a physical form. Right? But however many years ago when you first started this, you had to actually see this and pitch this to someone. And then they had to be like, well, what happens?
Starting point is 01:37:37 And then you do what? And then there's alcohol. On paper, this is terrible. Right? This is terrible on paper. So at the end of the day, what the movie deals with is exactly that. What I believe is you can either manifest something absolutely brilliant and incredible for your life, where you can fly and be able to do the things you want to do,
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Starting point is 01:41:19 In your mind, and you push out, that's what you'll get. So if you're like, oh man, they don't like me, I'm never going to get that part. I'd never be in that film. I would never be able to build that company. Then that's exactly what the results would be. So what the movie deals with is the energy around the subconscious and how it works. So when they are around that fire
Starting point is 01:41:37 and they're all speaking to each other about what that is, the idea about the lodge and what the whole energy is about is, can you, if that fear approaches you, can you actually defeat it? Now, Lou's character,
Starting point is 01:41:51 Lou was the only one that said something that really wasn't spooky. He said that he didn't want people to trust him. Right. But then ironically... Can't give it away.
Starting point is 01:42:03 Okay. Can't give it away. But it's funny because we talked about... I'm into the movie. You were telling me I'm into the movie, right? But then ironically Can't give it away Okay Can't give it away But But It's funny Because we talked about I'm into the movie You were telling me I'm into the movie
Starting point is 01:42:09 You were on point Because that's exactly right Because His character basically Was like His biggest fear Is for people Not to trust him
Starting point is 01:42:16 Right Especially those That actually Are his family Right He said that Which is a big deal Right
Starting point is 01:42:22 So at the end of the day That was a very Complicated fear To have in the film Because you gotta figure Okay well How would that Right, he said that Which is a big deal, right? So at the end of the day That was a very complicated fear To have in the film Because you gotta figure out Okay, well How would that bother him? Until you see the movie go downhill
Starting point is 01:42:32 Exactly Oh, wait If you understand the film And you watch it like you do Right Everybody actually domino effects On top of each other Yes
Starting point is 01:42:39 Right? So his fear actually affects him Right Right? Oh, it does Damn, I forgot that And then his fear Right? And then fear actually affects him Right Right Oh, it does Damn, I forgot that His fear, right His fear affects him
Starting point is 01:42:48 Right Right, so it just continuously happens Until someone actually has the audacity Or the mental capacity to stop it Right Now, all this Binge watching, right Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 01:43:01 Binge watching is a great thing Because I mean, i remember uh you know coming home to martin coming home to video music box coming home to 106 and park and doing that but then me actually having a life and me not being able to do that ever again yeah and me saying okay whenever it comes on netflix or whenever it comes on youtube or whatever yeah what made you say that, you know what? Let's make these people go back to the theaters.
Starting point is 01:43:30 And the fact that you made it during COVID, what made you pick that? Man, it's a lot, man. I just love the theatrical experience. I've personally never had a streaming movie. Nothing I've ever made has been the streaming. We've been really blessed, man, independently To make movies that, I believe
Starting point is 01:43:48 Work really well in the theater, and they have Me and Joseph with The Intruder Fatale, Black and Blue Oh, Intruder Yeah, even as small as That's when you the foul You the foul Yeah, I remember that
Starting point is 01:44:03 Even as small as I got mine Yeah, Meet the Blacks Which was a very small movie You know, we had a Giant theatrical run That's what Michael Black's Man
Starting point is 01:44:11 Yeah, Blacks and Epps And Duvall The whole team over there Man, but yeah I was in that one too Wait, that was Gary That was Gary Owen You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:44:22 Shout out to Gary, man Yeah, yeah But no, yeah So I always just I feel like the theatrical Experience is where it Shout out to Gary, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, yeah, so I always just, I feel like the theatrical experience is where it's at right now, man. Right. But why the movie was made is, what you guys were talking about earlier,
Starting point is 01:44:33 which was we was in a moment in time, man, where we didn't know what tomorrow would bring. Right. And as an artist, man, I felt like part of our job, just like you as an artist, is to create art that reflects the time that we live in. Right. And at that moment, man, no one was able to actually paint.
Starting point is 01:44:53 And I was like, man, I bet I could paint. And you know what's dope? The fact that y'all like, I don't know if there was a disease y'all created or was y'all trying to say that this was COVID. Right. Like I couldn't tell at that moment when the newsflash was going. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:08 It's crazy right there. And then there's one point that was like, everyone stay in. You can't go nowhere. And everyone's in the house debating like, what should we do?
Starting point is 01:45:17 Can we open the windows? Yeah. And it's like, so you don't know if this is COVID or not. It's where we was at, man. Look, I was saying this the other night.
Starting point is 01:45:26 During the pandemic, during the global pandemic, when everything shut down, now we got a whole bunch of people that's tough. Now everybody, I wouldn't do that, I wouldn't do this. But there was a moment in time. Yeah. There was a moment in time when you looked at your kids or your wife or your family
Starting point is 01:45:40 or whoever, and you was like, damn, I don't know what this is out here. You know what I mean? And that's where we wanted to be in the film. We wanted to be in a place to where the mind actually plays jokes and games with you, right? And the prime example of that, which is funny, is along this time, and some people pick this up now and they still have this problem.
Starting point is 01:45:59 You feel something in your chest, or you feel like you got a cough, and then immediately you go to your phone. Next thing you know, an hour later you got cancer. You're like, damn, I got all them symptoms. You know what I mean? So, a little bit of that energy is a little bit of that energy is what the movie deals with, which is, and that's
Starting point is 01:46:16 what his character actually plays with a lot in the film too. Except for Atlanta. And Florida. And Florida. No, chill. Let me just be clear Florida closed down For two months And then it was like Fuck this
Starting point is 01:46:29 Atlanta's outside But Atlanta closed down For two hours Man remember that Atlanta was going crazy Maybe two weeks Maybe two weeks Wait how
Starting point is 01:46:37 Florida closed down For two months right Florida closed down Then it opened back up right Yeah yeah But it was different Skirts of Florida But Miami was cautious for
Starting point is 01:46:46 like two months. The clubs in Atlanta never released. Atlanta never. This is the week of the movie. This comes out. Wait, because what day the movie comes out? The 27th? And we're going to drop this Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. This is the same week.
Starting point is 01:47:02 Yeah. You good. The film comes out Let's sell this motherfucker The film comes out Thursday At 5pm And this comes out At 10pm That's good
Starting point is 01:47:11 Thursday So Overvolt TV And then Friday Audio And then Saturday YouTube We keep talking about You know It's a great fucking movie man
Starting point is 01:47:20 I've seen So I've seen I'm going to take a shot for that man Come on Take your last shot Take your last shot Take your last shot Wait man T.I. over there
Starting point is 01:47:27 Don't worry You can skip this one So I was doing my My drink champs research Before I came Yo Khaled Khaled has so many like quotes
Starting point is 01:47:42 So I'm going to make sure I drop some quotes You got to drop some quotes Yo Having greatness Takes patience Khaled has so many quotes, so I'm going to make sure I drop some quotes. You got to drop some quotes. Yo, having greatness takes patience. If you want to be great, you got to be willing to wait. That's deep. I'm going to tell you about this film right here.
Starting point is 01:48:00 Think about this. We shot this movie three years ago during the pandemic. I've seen three versions of this movie, right? Yeah. The third version I saw of this movie was so good. I called D and I was like, bro, put this version of the movie out. You want to bootleg it? It was like, you know, like the pandemic. I wanted to put it in.
Starting point is 01:48:24 I was like, it's ready pandemic I wanted to put it I was like It's ready now Let's throw it out Right One thing I learned from D He was like I just don't feel Like it's there
Starting point is 01:48:32 He went Higher How many editors I mean it's been a lot Of different edits Of this movie Cause what's that shit The short version
Starting point is 01:48:39 Quibi You ain't know Oh yeah I remember that Yeah Quibi Quibi it lasts like Like Six Six They gone now I was ready to sell Some remember that Quibi, it lasts like Six months I was ready to sell some shit to Quibi
Starting point is 01:48:48 You know how much money people got? Yeah So D just had the patience To wait for the right time The right weekend Everything's in the right place And put together a complete new film Right?
Starting point is 01:49:04 That speaks to where we are right now. And that is unprecedented, right? And so everybody, like, you got to think, like, there's millions of, there's no studio. It's not like Sony, Warner Brothers, you know, one of these, it had just put the money up and we're just all out here moving. Everybody, we got real money in the game, right?
Starting point is 01:49:24 So there's six figures out of my bank account making sure that this works. Dion has hundreds of thousands of dollars, not millions of dollars of his own money invested in it, right? So when we talk about fear, a lot of people, as we operate through life, have fear in taking themselves, taking their career to the next level, right? They have something that they aspire to do, but they have the fear that might hold them back from going there. And so the one thing that I want people to know from the aspect of the stuff that happens on camera and what happens behind the scenes is that if you want to do great things in life, you have to be willing to bypass that fear and just go out of it. All of us 100 years from now will be dead. This is it, right?
Starting point is 01:50:17 Hey, speak for yourself. CI has crypto technology and we'll be frozen in an ice cap. You don't know what the fuck is going to happen tomorrow. You hear me? Hey, bro. The time we have now is the time we have now. And this movie, Fear, for all of these different characters going through all of these different journeys, is if they could just overcome the fear, they might be able to move.
Starting point is 01:50:43 I don't want to speak too much. You know what I'm saying? But you got to be willing to see overcome the fear, they might be able to move. I don't want to speak too much. You know what I'm saying? But you got to be willing to see past the fear. Another thing I would say is every storm runs out of rain. You feel me? Hey, I'll drop it. So where this film is a deep character. I'm going to do what I'm best at.
Starting point is 01:51:01 Every storm runs out of range I went through One of the hardest I went through A really tough time About a year ago Went down To Atlanta
Starting point is 01:51:12 And went to visit Tip He looked at me He said Don't let a moment Take over the movement Yeah I got that from J Prince I didn't
Starting point is 01:51:21 J Prince said it right I can't You know What's this tough time? Are we talking about your process of moving out of L.A.? We talking about that time?
Starting point is 01:51:29 Yeah, yeah. You want to tell the people? Like, because... Let's talk about it a little bit. Yeah, I mean... Tell them why you moved out of L.A. You know, that was
Starting point is 01:51:36 very touching to me. I met with you at Bell Harbor, I believe. I don't know if you remember. Mm. And I was like, yo, you know, and you was like, yo, man, I'm thinking about moving out here. And I was like, you, you know, and you was like, yo, man, I'm thinking about moving out here.
Starting point is 01:51:47 And I was like, you know, that's one of the greatest decisions I've ever made. That the first year I moved out here, the first year I moved out here, no one should have been around me. It was just not great. But then after that, I started to realize, oh, shit, you know, there's different parts of Miami or whatever whatever so uh but then it's so many because because LA is right now known as the rapper murder capital of the world right now it's crazy because you you're a host but in this world at least this is how it's depicted, you're looked at like me and T.I. Like there's no difference between, even though me and T.I. look at you like a civilian,
Starting point is 01:52:30 we say Terrence J is a civilian. No one can not like Terrence J. But still, you're subjected to the same thing that me and T.I. is. If you could describe what you want to describe, the part of it, of what's going on in L.A. for. And if you could describe what you want to describe, the part of it, of what's going on in L.A. for people that don't understand. Well, more so than what's going on in L.A.,
Starting point is 01:52:50 your decision. Right. What made you make your decision? Right. I never talked, I haven't talked about this. Right. There was an attempted robbery.
Starting point is 01:53:05 Right. Coming home from a restaurant. Right. Nice restaurant. Guys, yeah, very nice restaurant. Yeah. Not McDonald's. Yeah, attempted carjacking, right?
Starting point is 01:53:16 I was able to get away. And then I had, yeah, you know, I had decisions to make, right? When I moved to L.A., like, I remember moving to L.A. and going to a house party, and it changed my life, right? And I felt like, oh, man, like, I got an invite, and I'm at a Puff Daddy party, and you feel the vibe, and it inspired me so much. And so for me, you know, for about a five year span, my house was one of those spots in L.A. Open to everybody. My door would be unlocked. Wow. And it would be. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable,
Starting point is 01:54:05 showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it. I'm J.R. Martinez. I'm a U.S. Army veteran myself, and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of
Starting point is 01:54:25 Medal of Honor, Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Podcast. From Robert Blake, the first Black sailor to be awarded the medal, to Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice. These are stories about people who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor, going above and beyond the call of duty. You'll hear about what they did, what it meant, and what their stories tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The demand curve in action. And that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick.
Starting point is 01:55:52 Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution.
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Starting point is 01:56:52 Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Artists, new artists, gangsters, you know, aspiring actors, aspiring models, somebody that just moved from Kansas in the same party with, you know, with Tip, right? It would be athletes, all of that.
Starting point is 01:57:29 Like, I just had an open-door policy. I would feed people, you know what I'm saying? And so when it happened to me, when they tried to, in front of, you know, at my crib, it was, I took it very personally because I've always tried to like you know what i mean i've always been switzerland you come to my house if you have beef and you want to squash it you know what i'm saying for those that don't know switzerland has beef with nobody and nobody
Starting point is 01:57:56 kind of has beef with switzerland right so uh you know you know zurich is one of my favorite places on the planet continue continue because i want uh I want, you know, I'm sorry, because I know you told me this. I don't know if it was secrecy or not, but your story is so important because we mainly think that it only happens to rappers or it only happens to people who attract that type of lifestyle,
Starting point is 01:58:19 who say, yo, you know, I'm holding this, I'm doing this, I'm doing this I'm doing this And really It's happening to anybody In entertainment This is the reason Why your story Is so important
Starting point is 01:58:31 And I hope you continue To finish What you were saying I'm sorry You know Yeah so It was painful And especially because
Starting point is 01:58:40 They looked like me Right Right And I'm I'm the national ambassador for the Thurgood Marshall College Fund right I'm a black college HBCU like I love us right so like to experience that was it was traumatic for a lot of different reasons right right but with all that said I never wanted to feel like some
Starting point is 01:59:02 you know I'm getting moved out of my I gotta move, leave the city but I felt like I wanted to refresh the energy I felt like it was time to refresh the energy and I had a conversation with Tip and he was like listen you gotta keep the energy going and so I moved from LA
Starting point is 01:59:19 I bought some real estate but then I bought some more real estate and then I bought some more real estate, and then I bought some more real estate. God damn it. And then, like, in the thought of it, like, just wanting to feel comfortable, I probably done 10, 15, about, like, $13 million worth of real estate over the past 12-month cycle. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:59:39 Make some noise. Relax. God damn it. Make some noise. Relax. And so what I say is, like, you know, well, first of all, for us, we got to be vigilant. It don't matter whether, you know, I just came off the Oscars and got, you know what I'm saying? So it's like all of anybody could be a target.
Starting point is 01:59:57 We have to be vigilant. We have to, you know, I continue to promote education for young people. Like, the fact that there was young people that looked like me makes me want to do more to help young men so that it doesn't continue, you know what I'm saying? Is this something you thought that you could have avoided, this situation, or this was a situation that was going to follow anybody walking out that restaurant? Mine specifically was they followed me when I was coming from the valet.
Starting point is 02:00:23 And so now the police have now told, you know, that. Was it a nice car? Yeah. You know, that they were scouting from the restaurant and doing the drive home. Yeah. But again, you know, I don't want to talk too much about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't have to.
Starting point is 02:00:37 My takeaway is that, like, you know, having fear in life, and that's what the premise of this movie is, right? That's right. It's like nobody. I like how you brought it back to fear. This nigga's good. This nigga's good, man. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:00:51 Being shot at is the scariest shit you could ever go through, right? Especially when you don't have a gun. When you don't have a gun and you're being shot at, there's nothing scarier, right? Wait, I didn't know. I forgot that part. They actually shot at you? And this is in front of your house? This is right down the road once I'm in the car.
Starting point is 02:01:08 Wow. So what you have to then do. God bless you. Thank you. What you have to then do is you have to assess who you are in life. And do you let situations take you down? Do you let situations take you off your path? Do you let situations deter you from going after what your dreams are?
Starting point is 02:01:26 And so for me, I was able to take a very traumatic experience, right? And then say, okay, well, now that I got to move, I'm going to start buying some real estate. I'm going to start. And now I've turned it into a complete new business for me. I have a complete new business under because I talk to my friends, you know? Right. And so it's like, it's taking the traumatic experience from life
Starting point is 02:01:50 and using them as a stepping stone, using them as a guiding post to get yourself to where you need to be. Right. What's evil meant for bad? God used for good. Because, you know, Jim Jones said it the other day.
Starting point is 02:02:05 He said, being a rapper is the most dangerous job on earth. And a lot of people from the military, they took it personal. And I understood why the military took it personal because we understand that. But even in the military, you kind of know who your enemy is when you go on that field. They have the opposite of the uniform. Being an entertainer, we don't know who the fuck. Like, I watched the Selena movie the other day, and her assistant killed her. Dang.
Starting point is 02:02:40 You know what I mean? It's like, then I watched the interview with Baby. He said, forget hate. We got to watch envy. He said, envy comes from within. That's true. Sometimes you have people around you who are just envious of you just because y'all had the same fifth grade teacher.
Starting point is 02:02:58 You had the same third grade teacher. You had the same seventh grade teacher. And you're living how you is but you didn't change right you just still want to hang with this particular person this particular person is looking at you like fuck no why has he got a better haircut than me no you're right that's real i think but it's dumb shit like that i think that's where the the rap energy comes from though because if you think about it most most artists that come from the inner city that actually find success at music right they still
Starting point is 02:03:30 living within the same walls that everybody else is in right right so and they don't a lot of times don't know how to actually leave that environment because that's where the palette is for the art right so if you in memphis or you in chicago or you in miami and then all of a sudden i was just with you and we was poor we was in Chicago or you in Miami and then all of a sudden I was just with you and we was poor, we was hitting licks, we was doing whatever and all of a sudden your music take off and now you got all this, you got all that, you got a fan base and we still sitting in this same environment.
Starting point is 02:03:56 Envious and jealousy will be the thing that actually assassinates you. So that's why we see all the artists. Now if you're the military, you're absolutely right. If I'm the military, I know, okay, I'm finna do this, sign up, and I'm gonna sit right here and wait for that to happen. I know my insurgents. I know how they look. I know what colors they got on. I know what it is. So I think
Starting point is 02:04:11 that's what is... But I would also say it's not just rappers. It's anybody successful in the hood. But you know, that's another thing that I felt interested about the movie was there was no, like, street people other than Lou. Sorry. You took the street role, P.O. We were all from the same place.
Starting point is 02:04:27 Everybody else had something going on. Lou, I don't know what Lou was. Lou was from the hood. He was an entrepreneur. He was an independent entrepreneur. Everybody else had, you know, something. But that was dope for me to see that. Like, you know, they're going outside.
Starting point is 02:04:45 Did you ever actually propose or no? Well, let's not do that. Okay. Let's not do that. Let's not do that. Let's not do that. Because that was the funniest shit is when they sat around. Hey, man, come on.
Starting point is 02:05:00 Oh, yeah. Let me relax. You're doing a lot. No, let me relax. Let's take a shot of me doing a lot. But by the way, man, let me really, you know, look all for you brothers face-to-face, eye-to-eye. I'll tell you, I truly enjoyed the movie. I truly watched.
Starting point is 02:05:19 I wanted to critique it, good, bad, in between, whatever. And it's a dope movie, man. It's a dope movie. I enjoyed it. I thought it was unique. I thought I haven't seen no movie like it. And I thought what y'all did, and now,
Starting point is 02:05:41 knowing that you guys came together, and so I'm guessing y'all had a table read or approved the script or some type of shit. No. No. No, but let me. No.
Starting point is 02:05:49 They didn't believe you that much. Bird dad showed up. Bird dad shot. That's right. Let me speak on that for a minute. Just for one second. I know we're going to get out of here in a minute. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:58 Cool. But no, these guys all trusted me as a filmmaker and a writer, and I actually wrote the script while we were shooting. Because you filmed the episode of Power War 2, right? I shot the finale. I've never read an entire script. I know that. I've never read an entire script.
Starting point is 02:06:12 But part of being in this art form is understanding who the talent is and who you're working with. Like, I know what Tip's going to read and I know what Tip ain't going to read. I also know in the scene when he's going to be like, hey man, what is this right here? Because he ain't going to read. I also know in the scene when he going to be like, hey, man, what is this right here? Because he ain't seen it yet. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:06:28 So you have to also be prepared for that. But outside of the movie, I just wanted to say something, which I think is super dynamic, man. A lot of people have these conversations about, like, what we could do as a community and how we could move with black excellence and all this stuff. And obviously everybody individually in here has been successful.
Starting point is 02:06:45 Right. That's what's dope about it. That's what's really cool, man. But the reality is what happens a lot of times, man, with us as black and brown people is we don't never unify and do nothing together. You might find one or two people that might be like, yo, I'm going to do something with him. But normally when we talk about big, this is why we don't own no NBA teams.
Starting point is 02:07:03 We don't own no NFL teams. We don't own no NBA teams. We don't own no NFL teams. We don't own nothing, right? But the movie space is just like that, which is there's not a black person in Hollywood that can green light a movie and put it out theatrically worldwide, period. Tyler Perry. Tyler Perry, but Tyler Perry is now. Well, that's your one, the exception. Okay, the exception, okay.
Starting point is 02:07:23 We'll keep right here on this lane. But what I wanted to say is what I think is really unique, man, is the fact that we were able to all do this movie together. Right. From the top to the bottom. So from the creative to everybody getting involved, from guys wanting to put their money in and invest with me as a black filmmaker and my wife who's a producer and make this whole thing just come to life.
Starting point is 02:07:45 And now to be able to take it out theatrically by ourselves as well. That's also fire. So this is the third, fourth time we've done this now, taking a film out worldwide theatrical by ourself. So we have been competing with studios for the last seven, eight years. So just to know that we're doing that on this level but with our brothers is something really special. And I hope that people actually take the time to understand that part of it.
Starting point is 02:08:08 Just talking about race, can I say something about race? Because I always steal credit of it, but now that I've had some shots. But just racially, I think that because it's still so taboo to talk about black and white and talk about race with people of different colors here. And I got to give shouts out to 50 Cent because because he said what people forget about diversity usually is diversity um and in this film it's black people and white people and mixed race people and it's not for any reason they're just there and i love that about it it's not like this this this this guy's this because he's black or this guy's this because he's white it's just we're just there And I think that that's actually a huge advancement in a cult and cultural amalgamation.
Starting point is 02:08:51 Can we pick up the females that's in here? Yes. Because your female character is awesome. Your female character, great lick of the leg. Jessica Lange. Yeah, great lick. Can we say their names? Who would have licked that leg?
Starting point is 02:09:03 Who would have licked that leg? No, Jessica. And Jessica Lange. Jessica Lange. Jessica and Lady. And Jessica Lane. Jessica Lane. Jessica Lane. But he licked Jessica Lane's leg. Yeah, he definitely did. Oh, you asked me, you told me to do it. Allegedly.
Starting point is 02:09:16 Allegedly. Whoa. Guys, no, no, no, no, no. Accusation. Deion's like, get more into it. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves.
Starting point is 02:09:35 This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it. I'm J.R. Martinez. I'm a U.S. Army veteran myself, and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Honor, Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Podcast. From Robert Blake, the first black sailor to be awarded the medal, to Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice. These are stories about people who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor,
Starting point is 02:10:10 going above and beyond the call of duty. You'll hear about what they did, what it meant, and what their stories tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding.
Starting point is 02:10:41 But the price has gone up, so now I only buy one. The demand curve in action, and that's just one of the things we'll be covering on Everybody's Business from Bloomberg Businessweek. I'm Max Chavkin. And I'm Stacey Vanek-Smith. Every Friday, we will be diving into the biggest stories in business, taking a look at what's going on, why it matters, and how it shows up in our everyday lives. With guests like Businessweek editor Brad Stone, sports reporter Randall Williams, and consumer spending expert Amanda Mull
Starting point is 02:11:10 will take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to Everybody's Business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The American West with Dan Flores
Starting point is 02:11:31 is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests
Starting point is 02:11:52 such as Western historian, Dr. Randall Williams, and bestselling author and meat eater founder, Steven Rinella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the ice age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves so join me starting tuesday may 6th where we'll delve into stories of the west and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today listen to the american west with dan flores on the iheart radio appio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. They didn't know that you was coming, but we're going to mail you your flowers, and that's real shit. This is Drink Champs literally giving us our flowers. That's right.
Starting point is 02:12:49 They told us an hour before you was coming. We did not know, but we're going to mail you your flowers. They like all our flowers. They like all our flowers. No, no, no. No, no, no. Don't got it. Snoop Dogg said it's like getting a Grammy because it's from your own people.
Starting point is 02:13:03 This is you. This is you. This is you. This is you. This is you. This is you. This is you. This is you, Grammy, man. And I'm going to be honest, brothers, man. All of y'all got luxurious careers, you know, individually. It's so dope to see y'all come together.
Starting point is 02:13:18 I didn't know this until I obviously had to research it. But it's dope to see people come together for a common cause and make it work. That's right. Like, I literally saw this movie is dope. And it's going to work. And everyone go out there and see it. It's dope. And now you got the back story.
Starting point is 02:13:39 Now you got the story of how these brothers came together and said, let's do something. And especially during the pandemic. That's so important for people to know that y'all was still working, that y'all was still ambitious. Y'all was still hustling. Y'all was still vigorous. Y'all was still, I'm trying to use big words. Y'all was still enthusiastic. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:13:58 You know, that's the biggest I go. You know what I mean? And y'all was still doing it. Y'all was still working. So what is something that you want to tell the people about this movie? If, um, and damn,
Starting point is 02:14:08 I got another shot and nobody else don't got one. Again, just give me one of Terrence and I'm with you. Okay. Okay. But I'm gonna take another one day. I'm gonna take it for the movie though. Look,
Starting point is 02:14:19 the days of, of reaching up for help are over. Reach across, work with your friends, work with the people that you love. You want to build a business? You want to build a corporation? You want to build a company?
Starting point is 02:14:31 You want to build your future? Work with your people. Don't wait for nobody to reach down and give you the opportunity. Work with the people that's beside you that's making it out the mud, like we did for this project. I mean, we're not out the mud, but we all work together and we build something that's making it out the mud. Like we did for this project. I mean, we're not out the mud, but we all
Starting point is 02:14:45 work together and we build something that's beautiful. And very money. Work with your family. I think not enough can be said about this gentleman's vision. His vision, his tenacity,
Starting point is 02:15:01 and his ability to execute. You know what I mean? Also, coupled with his relationships, he got all of us to go do some shit none of us was planning on doing. You feel me? In the haunted house.
Starting point is 02:15:18 Yeah. Haunted. It was really a resort. It was a haunted resort. And that lady is creepy as a motherfucker. Great, man. Great was a haunted resort. And that lady is creepy as a motherfucker. Great, man. Great job. Great job.
Starting point is 02:15:27 Great casting. It wasn't none of us, and it wasn't no goddamn five-star accommodations like you. Your place was that little spot you have. I think when you compare it to your spot. That's a fact. That's a fact. That's a fact. What did he say?
Starting point is 02:15:46 He said, this is not the full season. This is just fall. Hey, stop, stop, stop. You can't do that. You got the whole movie, man. You can't do that. I told y'all I'm into this. We got to do a movie with this, man.
Starting point is 02:15:57 That was Batch. That was Batch. Let's give love to Batch, Batch. That was improv. Yo. Oh, he improv'd that? Yeah, improv. Let me say this before we get out of here.
Starting point is 02:16:07 Because you just said something earlier, and I want to just, before we leave the show, I want to make sure we recognize this. Here's why you're incredible and this show is incredible, and this is incredible. Yeah. Because a long time ago, there was never a platform for this story to be told.
Starting point is 02:16:23 Right. So that's why it's important for you to exist right now. Right, thank you. Because a movie would go out, they would do what they needed to do to make sure people knew what that movie was, but when our things come out, no one would know the backstory.
Starting point is 02:16:36 Right. And now, to date, the only people that know the story about how this movie got put together is Nori and Drink Tip. Yes, yes, yes! the story about how this movie got put together is Nori and Drink Champs. I don't think it's... Listen, I'm not trying to trick y'all. I don't think there's nothing else to do but to take a shot. Hold up, hold up, because I didn't get to say my thing. And you can cut this out, I
Starting point is 02:16:59 don't mind. No, we ain't cutting this out. Can I bring my brother in here, Alvin? Yes, your brother. He's the biggest Drink Champs fan ever. Let's go. Alvin. Alvin. A-L-B-I-N.
Starting point is 02:17:11 Alvin. No, no, no. Take your shot. We're going to give Alvin his own shot. I dare you. No, no, no. How did you see that? Alvin deserves his own shot.
Starting point is 02:17:19 Alvin has seen every single. Let's give Alvin. What kind of shot do you want, Alvin? Whatever this is. All right. Noriega. Noriega. He has seen every single episode of Drink Champs from the beginning.
Starting point is 02:17:32 He's my friend. In my mind, he's my friend. God damn it. Even though Joseph chose Tribe Called Quest, I thought a KRS-One with that sex me and do me, I'd rather listen to Brand Nubian. Salim. Salim. Listen, guys. one with that sex me and do me I'd rather listen to brand new being. Solomon. Listen guys.
Starting point is 02:17:49 Listen guys may you guys never have no fear but y'all go out there and y'all go see fear and have that fear for I think it's an hour and 37 minutes somewhere around that. Mark. You know. Okay. I watched it. It's such a great movie
Starting point is 02:18:06 It's a twister Even though everything you think that I said here Is so much other shit That's gonna happen That it's like, you know It's a real dope movie To see these brothers come together That's why I wanted to big up the sisters as well
Starting point is 02:18:19 That's right Because it's just not just Brothers getting together It was Them girls did a great job, man. They did a great job. The girl that was scratching her whole shit. Ruby Modine.
Starting point is 02:18:29 Yeah, yeah. So it's such a dope, man. Yo, congratulations to you brothers. Thank you, man. Because I honestly did not know the story. I just thought this was, you know, Fox Theater is giving y'all money, and y'all just spending money here just out in Miami just saying whatever. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:18:50 That ain't it. I saw the movie, and I'm like, oh, shit, this is dope. Every woman was a woman of color in this film. I didn't think of that until now. Every woman in the film is a woman of color. Wow. Including Roxanne, who produced the movie as a black woman. That's right.
Starting point is 02:19:04 I'm glad you brought up that black woman I mean it was super dope man to see it and I want to say congratulations to each and every one of y'all I want to say thank y'all for coming to Drink Champs as the co-host I would like to say thank you to the writer and the director and the producer. Thank you to my other producing partners and my other co-stars in the film.
Starting point is 02:19:33 Thank you to the people who aren't here. Thank you to the crew, you know, to the other financiers that are behind the scenes. Thank you to everybody that made this a possibility and a reality. Everybody came together. Everybody kind of stepped out on faith. We believed in his vision. Yep. And he's executed and brought it into fruition.
Starting point is 02:19:58 You know, absolutely, in a way that none of us could have envisioned. So I'm just proud, honored, and it's a pleasure to be a part of it. Thank you for allowing me the opportunity. I appreciate it. Yes. My brother. Yes. Love.
Starting point is 02:20:13 Appreciate you. One thing is so dope. One thing, let me say this before I get out of here. One thing that's so dope is the respect that I see that each and every individual has. How, as a director, can you maintain these relationships with actors slash artists slash rappers? How do you maintain these relationships? They're real relationships. Okay. A lot of time, Hollywood
Starting point is 02:20:37 entertainment is built on fake. Nothing is real. I come from a very authentic place. So if I pull you in, it's because I really like you. Right. And I know that I'd rather work with people that I love, that are friends, more so than anybody else that might be 50 times bigger than anybody at this table. Right. Just because I know I'm going to do it over and over again with them.
Starting point is 02:20:57 So this is real relationships. Outside of a film, I'm hitting them and screaming and yelling, like, yo, what you doing over here? There's just a whole thing. So authenticity is what we need right now in the world, and this is what this table represents. Beautiful. Fake love is worse than real hate.
Starting point is 02:21:14 I'm going to just say that as another little euphemism to throw at you. You've been dropping all these slogans. As a seasoned 20-year host, watching what Nori does right now, yo, it's really impressive. First of all, 95% of the shows I've hosted, there's a teleprompter. So there's no prompter back here. You're doing all of this. Doing research off your phone.
Starting point is 02:21:35 I know there's a little bit of phone, but that's the scary thing because it's not really involved. Yo, you killing this shit. Thank you. You're killing this shit. Honestly, I'm really a. You know, you're killing this shit. No, but honestly, honestly, I'm really a fan
Starting point is 02:21:48 of all of you brothers, but to see y'all brothers come together, I didn't know that until just now. So it just made it more interesting because it's like,
Starting point is 02:21:54 all right, cool. One thing that we don't have or one thing that we lack of is ego. Yep. Ego is like, if, like, you know,
Starting point is 02:22:06 one of the, I don't know what to say, but ego is a fucked up thing and it's also a dope thing too. So you have to know how to be a seesaw in the ego thing. Keep going on it. This guy right here
Starting point is 02:22:23 like currently and for like the past, what is it, nine, ten, nine years? It'll be ten years in some time. Ten years, has had one of the biggest television shows,
Starting point is 02:22:33 actors in the world. Two of them though. Like no, multiple. Ozone. We're not even counting. Multiple, right? And then you're talking about one of the fucking,
Starting point is 02:22:41 the pillars of the industry. Yes, he is. King bitch. Yes, he is. That's the mountain pillars of the industry. King, bitch. Yes, he is. That's the mountain. Mount Rushmore. That's it. Neither one of these guys came to set any day with ego. It was never like, yo, bro, by the way, I'm actually in between power.
Starting point is 02:23:00 It was never ego with Joseph once. Tip never came on set like, yo, guys, I'm ego with y'all. You did not ego us. I'm not going to let you do that. I'm not going to let you make a joke out of me. Me and my wife kicked you and King Betcha ass in spades. Oh. I shut up in your partner.
Starting point is 02:23:21 Damn, she. Nah, nah. There was a lot of controversy that day. There was a lot of controversy that day. I executed. I distributed a great deal of ego that day. I'm up for the next round of that. I will say. Let's ask a lifelong question.
Starting point is 02:23:36 Is Spades a black game? Oh. Or is it universal? Let's bring it to you. I'm going to go universal. Let's bring it to you. I'm going to go universal. I don't think there's anything else. Let's have a shot. I don't know. If you don't play with jokers, then you have to question.
Starting point is 02:23:59 Hey, you know what's fucked up? Oh, thank you. I went to go see Trick Daddy. These niggas had the most fucked up rules I ever seen. Jokers didn't count. Aces didn't count. It was just like kings and jokers. The ace of spades didn't count?
Starting point is 02:24:23 I'm in my mind. I might be fucking this story up. In my mind, but it was something fucked up like that. Was it Ace of Spades? I don't even remember. But I remember I said, these soft niggas are trying to get me. And I sat there and I said, I learned. It took me two hands.
Starting point is 02:24:38 And then I discovered. And I got the hand and I whipped him. Played a win. I played the way to win. And guess what? Classic, I don't want to call this New York shit, but classic me shit. Soon as I won,
Starting point is 02:24:53 I quit. Oh, good thing you weren't playing dice in New York. No, no, no. No, this is space. Soon as I won, three hands in a row, I said, okay, fellas, that is it for me. And I jumped up like, you know how you win in Vegas
Starting point is 02:25:08 and you know you're not going to keep winning. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Are we taking a shot for that? Yeah, definitely. Yes. For fear.
Starting point is 02:25:14 For fear. For fear. Great fucking movie. Great fucking cast. In theater, January 27th. Yeah. Great cast.
Starting point is 02:25:23 Yes. I'm so glad. And I'm so glad and I'm so happy that people can explain that brothers can come together and make a movie on their own because for the most part this is independent because y'all are the independent company. Not for the most part.
Starting point is 02:25:36 In total. It's as rare because it's even hard to say. Even when I was doing The Intruder, I didn't understand the whole process. Another shout out to Omar Joseph. But Dion, this is independent in completion. Hidden Empire Films is getting this into theaters. Not Sony, not anybody else, no big names.
Starting point is 02:26:00 Just them. Every film we've made is an independent movie. That means we put up our own money and make the film completely. And own the film. And didn't you have Beef with Ghazi at one point?
Starting point is 02:26:08 With who? Ghazi, Empire Records. Me? Yeah. I don't even know who that is. Nah,
Starting point is 02:26:15 nah, nah. I'm speaking for him. He ain't had no beef with Ghazi and Empire. They just happened to have the similar name at the end.
Starting point is 02:26:24 So, which brings a lot of, you know, it could be potential. This is like three of y'all, right? You, Empire Productions. Empire They just happen to have The same little name At the end So Which brings A lot of You know It could be This is like three of y'all Right You Empire Productions
Starting point is 02:26:30 Right Now what you talking about Empire Now listen Empire Hit me at What you talking about Is Empire
Starting point is 02:26:35 The TV show For Fox Them and guys That had a situation Oh He's hitting Empire Hitting Empire Production Company. They didn't even see him.
Starting point is 02:26:47 That's why you didn't gas host, god damn it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. God damn it. That's why you didn't gas host. That's why you didn't gas host. That's why you didn't gas host. That's why you didn't gas host. You better get me caught in the twist.
Starting point is 02:26:57 You better get me caught in some shit out here. I appreciate you. Tip said no. Let me get you. The way you said it, I said, this nigga avoided it. Tip understood exactly what I was thinking. No, I'm being truthful. Who is that?
Starting point is 02:27:10 Yeah, yeah. Holy shit, come on. Don't worry. I'm in. You going to skip? This little shot right here is bothering me. Come on. No.
Starting point is 02:27:16 Look how little this is. Look how little this is. I feel like he can afford that. No, Louis Vu. Man, one day. One day when the police is going to be brought back up. Can we have a shot for Terrence's watch? Can we have a shot? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:28 Let's make a shot for Terrence's watch. Salud. There we go. All right. Now, you a smooth nigga, Terrence. I ain't going to lie. Come on. Nah.
Starting point is 02:27:44 Come on. Yo. Come on. Yo, yo, yo, listen. To fear. Oh, everybody? And to not having fear. This is to fear. Okay, to fear. To not having fear.
Starting point is 02:27:53 That's not a shot, sir. No fear. That is a drink. Okay, listen. Okay, yes. You know, this is professional drink champs. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 02:27:59 Yes. That's also a drink. Okay. Let's take a shot. Okay, you took it already? All right. All right, cool, cool. Why does he keep getting
Starting point is 02:28:06 filled up? Bro, I swear to God. This shot has been empty. He do it every time. But I've never seen her. This cup is haunted. This show is unlike anything else. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:28:20 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. What you about to say to y'all? No, no, I just wanted to know, like, what is fair? Fear. No, oh, fear? Fear or fear?
Starting point is 02:28:33 F-E-A-R. Fear, baby, that's the name of the movie that is the dopest movie. The fear is the name of the movie. Dopest fucking movie. 2023. Hell yeah. You should find out about it. You dig what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:28:44 Coming out. Came out last You should find out about it. You dig what I'm saying? Coming out. Came out last Friday. Came out Friday. It's coming out. No, it's coming out tonight. Yes. Tonight. Local movie theaters.
Starting point is 02:28:54 You hear me? Do we remember where these theaters are? Everywhere. All of them. Everywhere. Everywhere. Theater near you. So y'all not like just at 14?
Starting point is 02:29:02 Come on, bro. Y'all like well over 1,000. Okay. Over 1,000? How about try 1,800? Oh! Oh! 1,800 theaters.
Starting point is 02:29:13 Listen, motherfucker, shit is everywhere. I'm renting out a theater, man. I'm going to throw it out there. Yo! I'm going to throw it out there. I'll cheer today. I'm going to throw it out there. Give me 10 of them.
Starting point is 02:29:21 Give me 10 of them. 10 of them. 10 of them, motherfucker. Let's do it. 10 of them. Oh, shit, I got another one. Yo, 10, you got another one. It's a half a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Let's do it. Take a shot. Oh, I got another one. Yo, you got another one. It's a half a shot.
Starting point is 02:29:28 Half a shot. It's a theater out. No. To the theater. To the theater. Isn't that drink chance funny on us, man? Yeah, no problem.
Starting point is 02:29:34 It's a theater out. Now, once again, fellas, thank y'all for staying so long. Thank y'all for coming. Thank y'all for thinking of us. But also, let me also thank y'all for coming together and showing togetherness, showing that men can come together Thank y'all for thinking of us But also Let me also thank y'all For coming together And showing
Starting point is 02:29:45 Togetherness Showing that men Can come together Showing that we can And own some shit Cause that's basically The premise of what we're saying It's like alright
Starting point is 02:29:56 Let's go make a great movie Yep Well most of us Make a great movie And Lionsgate only That's right That's right Fox News only
Starting point is 02:30:05 Fox Flashlight Whatever them niggas Search Search like some shit Search like You know what I'm talking about When you
Starting point is 02:30:12 When you do Warner Brothers only Hey God Who is my people Piece of Warner Brothers See we did these We did these deals so long ago Yeah
Starting point is 02:30:20 Like every Like all the money's on the screen Yeah It's not like you You don't When you shoot a movie like this It's not like you, you don't, when you shoot a movie like this, it's not like you come. Yeah, word up. You don't come to make money. You come to invest in your future.
Starting point is 02:30:33 You come to invest in the project. You know what I'm saying? Dion puts all the money on the screen. So it's not like we came, none of us came for a payday. We came for the long haul. Did you have trailers? Nah, we had rooms in this haunted ass cabin It was really haunted
Starting point is 02:30:53 Nah, real spill Trailers? Trailers? No trailers It's that independent grind I'm talking about No trailers? We on it,? We own it man We own it
Starting point is 02:31:05 Yes But we will end it on ownership Because a lot of people Lie about ownership Right The reality is We own the film God damn
Starting point is 02:31:12 At the end of the day Every movie that we done made We own it And these guys own I'm sorry I need one more for ownership And one time That's it
Starting point is 02:31:18 One time for Dion and Roxanne Man Cause they are really Dion Roxanne Thank you Thank you, thank you. Forever young, old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Omar Joseph.
Starting point is 02:31:29 Let's give Omar Joseph his flowers, too. Okay, yeah. Let's have an old. Cheers. I'm not... Look, the last one is for y'all.
Starting point is 02:31:39 Bruh. It's for y'all. You know, I've been doing this for you for years. Man, last motherfucking shot. And by the way, let me big up to the Trap Cafe. What was it? Yeah, Trap City Cafe.
Starting point is 02:31:50 Trap City Cafe, man. I came out there. I won my award. And you know what's ironic? I just played a record that me and you got together. And it had to be a year or two years ago, I said, because I said, I went platinum and never won no awards. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:32:07 Ironically, my one award that I actually won, you presented it. That's crazy. That's crazy. But I said that prior, so now I got to change the line. I don't know if I got to change the line of leadership. I don't know. But we just played it, and that shit sound good. You ain't even remember when you played the verse. I swear to leadership. I don't know. But we just played it and that shit sound good. You ain't even remember
Starting point is 02:32:25 when you played the verse. I swear to God I don't remember saying it. But it did sound good. It did sound good. You killed that. I was almost going to ask you to film your part right there.
Starting point is 02:32:40 I'm being honest. Amen. You still got the best shoes in the building. You still got the best shoes in the building. I'm number two with the college. Hold on. One time for Queens in the building. I'm being honest You still got the best shoes in the building You still got the best shoes in the building I'm number two with the collets I'm number two with the collets I'm number two with the collets
Starting point is 02:32:53 Hey man, somebody tell Kelly I'm still waiting on mine You done went to Saudi Arabia with this nigga I'm still waiting on mine Nah, they told me they were going to get them to me They told me they were going to get them to me They said it was in the mail. I'm still checking the mail.
Starting point is 02:33:07 I'm still checking the mail. What size is it? What size is it? What size is it? Yo, to all of you brothers, man, thank y'all so much, man. Appreciate that, man. Hold up, hold up. Oh, you took yours already?
Starting point is 02:33:17 You got to fill them up. I thought that's what... You got to fill them up. I don't know. You got to fill them up. Oh, you got stashes, too? Oh! I love y'all. One more question. Here you go, bro. That's one. Oh, you got stashes too? Oh, these motherfuckers got stashes.
Starting point is 02:33:30 Yo, they in fear of having fear. Fear. They got stashes over here. Salute. I'm going to take this down. We're going to take some pictures, and that's it, y'all. Thank you. This was a good one. This was a good one.
Starting point is 02:33:46 This was a good one. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly, DJ EFN and NORE. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials. That's at Drink Champs across all platforms. At TheRealNoriega on IG. At Noriega on Twitter. Mine is at Who's Crazy on IG, at DJEFN on Twitter.
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