Drink Champs - Episode 349 w/ T.I., Terrence J and Joseph Sikora (Movie cast of “FEAR”)
Episode Date: February 3, 2023N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the Champs chop it up with T.I., Terrence J and Joseph Sikora! Starring in the recently released horror film “FEAR” T.I., Terrence J and... Joseph Sikora are here for a good time! The guys share stories from their individual careers, their experinces filming “FEAR” and much much more! Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more: 🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreaga *Check out our Culture Cards NFT project by joining The Culture Cards Discord: 👇* https://discord.gg/theculturecardsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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What it good be, homies?
What it should be?
This is your boy N.O.R.E.
And usually we have E.F.N. here.
E.F.N. is sick.
We wanted to take the proper precautions.
We don't want to get anybody else sick.
So, you know, I told him that I'll hold it down.
But in honor of that, we got someone who's been on Drink Champs at least five or six times.
A history with Drink Champs.
So I figured we might as well have T.I. come in.
So let's make some noise for T.R.
But this is a very special edition of Drink Champs because we're going to, you know,
speaking also here, we got Joseph.
Make some noise for Joseph Sacara.
And we also got Terrence J.
Make some noise for Terrence J.
For all of their
luxurious careers and so much
things they got going on, I'm going to try
to keep this interview about the movie.
Okay. I'm going to really try
as much as I'm fresh off of seeing the movie
just now. And you didn't see the movie.
I ain't seen it yet. And you didn't see the movie.
Let's make some noise for me seeing the movie
before this.
Hey man, also, if we could just point out the fact that I just found out I was co-host like five seconds ago.
So, everybody make some noise for that, man.
That's a great chance.
I just found out.
So, Joseph, is it cool I call you Joseph?
Yeah.
So, um.
Other than Tommy?
Yeah, yo, because you know, yo, yo.
That's okay.
You know what's funny about that, Tommy, specifically?
I hung out with Tommy from Martin before.
Oh, yeah.
And I just kept calling him Tommy,
and I kept calling all the actors by their names,
and they just looking at me like...
Yeah, I know, he was.
But all the other actors were offended,
like, when I was calling them by their names.
But sometimes you do a legendary role like that, people, you nail it so good that people only identify you as that.
Is that something you ever ran into?
Well, right now, just coming from the son of Queens and saying that to me, that's a badge of honor.
You call me Joseph, call me Tommy, just call me now.
But has that ever affected you?
People who've seen... I think they call it
a cast?
What is it? Typecast.
Yeah, typecast.
You know, I feel like even
it's interesting, because Tommy is
very specific, but it's also the power
universe that 50 has created
has been kind of bypassed
by Hollywood.
At the same time, I go to Los Angeles.
We were just in Los Angeles, me and Dion Taylor,
the director of the great film Fear.
And
almost every person that I met was
like, hey, you're the guy who got his dick shot off
in Ozark, right? In Ozark, yeah.
You're going too fast. It's my second question.
Come on.
And that's such a different character than Tommy. I mean, it's 180 degrees different. It's my second question. Come on. Okay, okay, okay. And that's such a different character than Tommy.
I mean, it's 180 degrees different.
It's the antithesis of Tommy.
Right.
That guy wishes he was Tommy Egan in every sense of the word.
So I still get to play all these different characters.
So when people say, I got asked yesterday, are you scared of being typecast?
And my answer was, I'm from the theater, darling.
So, you know, I played a million different roles.
And it's okay.
You put your heart and your soul into every role that you play
and play a 160-degree character, a 360-degree character,
and you have a real person.
And that's all I'm after.
It's like, I love playing Tommy.
Tommy's crazy and fun.
And I'll keep doing it for years.
Goddamn, make some noise for Tommy.
Goddamn.
Now, one of the things that I seen watching the movie Off Top
was the hip-hop's placement.
I got to see Ace of Spades, and I got to see Seraph.
And I immediately thought of one of you brothers.
That was intentional.
Which one? I know it was intentional.
It was a collective.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
Every opportunity we got, like, we're going to put our was a collective. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Every opportunity we got, like, we going to put our people in there.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Right.
And, you know, of course, Terrence J is, you know, he probably thought of it at first.
Yes.
It was dope.
Every time the champagne got popped, it was Ace of Spades.
I was like, oh, shit.
Then they had vodka there.
Tequila, I didn't know.
I didn't know what
tequila was.
But we were playing
ahead of time, you know.
Okay.
You see what I'm saying?
Like, it was kind of like,
okay, this shot is coming up.
Man, we're a bottle
of Ace of Spades.
Somebody got a bottle of syrup.
Sometime we didn't have
Ace of Spades.
We had to find some syrup.
And you know what I mean?
It was, it was.
You only drink Ace of Spades, man.
That's right.
You only drink Ace of Spades, baby.
Kimmy J. Smith is important.
You can drink the champagne
you may as well. Yeah, and you know, it's a testament to our director of Spades, baby. Can we drink? You can drink the champagne, you may as well.
Yeah, and you know, it's a testament to our director,
Deion Taylor, and the whole
infrastructure that they built around this film.
Black empowerment.
Of course, Tommy, I mean, Joseph as well.
But it's all about...
He's wearing black.
He is wearing black.
You know, supporting black businesses,
giving those looks, giving those opportunities,
very, very important. And if you look in the kitchen, there's Branson in there and LeChemin Delroy.
Oh, okay, okay.
Okay, I didn't mean that.
I'm sorry, baby.
I'm sorry I didn't mean that.
You feel me?
I didn't see you.
Yo, that is dope.
That is dope.
So, Terrence, right?
Coming from the hosting background, right?
106 and Park.
Since 106 and Park, there ain't been another 106 and Park.
Yeah.
There's been a lot of fakes. There's been a lot of fakes, there's been a lot of
imitations, there's been a lot of phonies.
Why do you think these shows
aren't as current as they used to be?
Like the TRLs and all this.
Why is it not popping no more?
I think it's a different world, right? It's a different
landscape. Back then, when
T.I. dropped a video,
you used to have to run home
to watch it at 6 o'clock. Watch it at 6 o'clock.
Yes, it's clock.
To see it, right?
Yes.
Now you can consume your entertainment in so many different ways.
It's on your phone, right?
You can watch any video as it drops.
So the way people consumed it is different.
So the outlets are different.
Now you have things that have emerged like Drink Champs.
Right.
That have completely changed the landscape and have done things that we couldn't do 10 years ago on a show like 106.
But I think it's a beautiful thing, man.
I think progression is a beautiful thing.
I think that the level of ownership
that people like yourself
and all of these new outlets have now
is a beautiful thing.
You answering this perfect, nigga.
I ain't going to lie to you.
You answering this perfect, man.
You are very 2PR trained for drink tests.
You're going to have to take some shots.
I've never heard a perfect,
more of a perfect answer
than this that lets me know I'm not doing
my job.
Hey, look,
bro, he said that to me
my first three times being on here, man.
You know what I'm saying?
Hey, man, bro pulled up on me. Hey, listen,
man, what's up with us, man?
Like, you just
You just be answering
The answers all
Correct and shit
Like
You know what I mean
Why you so stiff bro
No bullshit
Nah nah
I'm fucking with you
But
Yeah
You're right
Cause content is like
I remember
I remember waking up And actually having to get a paper.
Right?
I'm that old, right?
Like, when you had to get a paper.
Now, I wake up and the paper's already in my hand.
Like, Twitter's my paper.
Everything.
Like, I don't really care about the sports section no more, because I'll find the highlights on Twitter.
Like, I don't even have to go to ESPN no more at this point.
Like, I'll actually, it's like, does that make the music whacker?
I think, no, not whacker.
I mean, obviously, there's great songs.
There's great projects coming out.
I think, like, the cohesiveness of, like, having full albums, we're not seeing that as much.
Because people are able to consume their songs you know you like these two songs you're listening to that as opposed to
listening to a complete body of work so i think that that has changed but i you know i just think
it's things are different they're not better they're not worse it's just the times have progressed
like you said you can see how much brawn has dropped before you get up you know to have
breakfast right so you just consume it in a different way.
So it's just progress.
As it pertains to like, you know, to music, I think that it being a direct to consumer
market now, we have access to more authenticity.
See what I'm saying?
Before,
a motherfucker had to go
through gatekeepers.
Right.
You know,
in order to go through gatekeepers,
most of the time,
you had to be polished and poised
and had to,
you know,
be astute.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Of the system.
Right.
Now,
you can go,
anybody can make a hit.
Right.
And you straight to the consumer.
So it don't matter
whether Kevin Liles, Puff Daddy, Lior Cohen, or... Let's pick them up, by the way. So it don't matter whether Kevin Lyles,
Puff Daddy, Lior Cohen, or...
Let's pick them up, by the way.
You know, right on.
Yeah, yeah.
Those are my friends.
Russell Simmons, Craig Cabot.
It don't matter whether they said it was good enough.
I can go straight to YouTube.
I can go straight to...
YouTube's still a middleman, though.
Well, I mean, but it's direct to consumer. It's still direct to consumer. It's user-generated. Well, YouTube's still a middleman, though. Well, I mean, but it's direct to consumers.
It's still direct to consumers.
It's user-generated.
Well, that's not a middleman, but...
It's user-generated.
Yes.
You know what I mean?
They may dictate and determine
how many people you can have access to,
but you can still upload it yourself
and get straight to the consumer.
And that authentic...
Everybody wants to see themselves.
Folks, let me just tell y'all something.
T.I. is so much not a rapper no more.
He came early.
I was disappointed. I said, wait a minute.
He's supposed to be a rapper. He's supposed to be
at least 15 minutes late. He came
15 minutes early and didn't check out his shoes.
You got to show your shoes. Put your shoes on the table real quick.
Show these people your shoes, T.I.
Please. Show these people this when you know you're getting money.
When you wear some shoes like this.
I refuse.
You refuse?
I refuse to take attention away from these fine actors.
At some point, we're going to focus on the shoes.
I'm telling you.
And I saw you taking a picture of it.
You're trying to be slick.
I saw you taking a picture of it out there.
Nah, I was showing it to my wife.
My wife was like, you know what I'm saying, what you put on.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, man.
But check the shoes out, though, you know what I'm saying, what you put on? You know what I'm saying? I'm like, man, shit. But check the shoes out,
though.
You know what I mean?
Holy,
you just had a different shirt on
like 20 minutes ago.
Hey, man.
Oh, whoa, whoa.
You took a change
and get fresh on your ass.
Wow, got it.
Yeah, bro.
Yeah.
So,
speaking of authenticity,
to bring it back to that,
it's interesting in the movie, too,
because I find a lot of young actors,
I think it's so reflective of the music, exactly what Tip said, is that so much of the music that's to that it's interesting in the movie too because i find a lot of young actors i think it's so reflective of the music exactly what tip said is that so much of
the music that's today it's like these guys actually have to be doing that especially i
think a drill stuff it's like no no if you're not if you're not if you don't have that piece you're
not you don't have these bodies i'm not listening to you and in some ways it's really difficult
because it has translated into uh the acting world where it's like people, the craft of acting and
becoming somebody else is now sacrificed.
It's like, no, no, we want that guy.
Or I have to be, especially on the power show, these young actors are like, no, no, I got
it like this.
And they're talking about certain things where it's like, no, you're an actor.
Like, relax about that stuff.
But one of the things, too, is about in the Fear movie is that I think that we have an
opportunity here.
I see it every time I watch the movie
with Tip's performance.
This is not T.I.
You know,
it's not Tip Harris.
It's Lou.
It's Lou.
It's Lou.
And I think that,
obviously,
you can,
they can't talk about this,
but you can.
And they're different.
It's a different Terrence J
than we're used to.
It's a different Andrew Batchelor
than we're used to.
Oh, you shit it on him.
Oh, man.
Oh.
Oh.
He threw you under the bus.
I'm talking about dirty.
You hear me?
In that second, I'm another round of dirty.
I'm talking about dirty.
You hear me?
I need another round.
I said, immediately.
Because he was like, you know, Lou would do this to us.
I said, damn, this is some harsh shit.
And you can tell when you're pondering that you're supposed to be cool, we've been offering
bad energy for a long time.
Yeah, he's been trying to get you. I've been a long time. Yeah, he been trying to get you.
I been waiting on you.
Yeah, he trying to get rid of you fast.
I'm talking about for real.
You held it down, though.
You were like, where he at?
I trust you.
Yeah, yeah.
I got you.
Yeah, I don't want to say too much.
I'm good.
Hey, look, man.
Nah, it's a good move.
Another thing, you know you wasn't seeing Terrence J.
Because I'm talking about every time we did a scene with him,
like a whole 45 seconds before action, he's in character.
Who, Terrence?
Yeah.
Nah, I ain't going to lie.
You played this shit out, this role.
I ain't going to lie.
Look.
Look, look, look.
Action.
I'm telling you, bro.
He didn't get paid enough because he worked way more than he had to.
He was in his character at least an extra 45 seconds before everybody else.
Oh, so hold on.
You was method acting?
Nah, this man was so.
Come on, man.
Come on.
I'm like, bro, hold up.
They fixing the lights?
And you licked the shit out of her leg, though, too.
Yo.
I said, what is this, man?
That was a delicious chocolate chip.
Hold on.
Hold on.
When you.
Your tongue came out and everything.
I was like, look at this shit.
D.R., you used that tape, man.
Hey, man.
That was our first thing to bloopers.
I didn't know what I was watching.
When you're working with people like this, right?
Joseph is so, like, classically...
Like, Joseph is an actor, actor, right?
Yeah, yeah, I got that.
He can come in and out of the scene.
He can change things.
He can...
Like, he's one of the finest actors I know, right?
I respect that.
And then Tip, who also has tons of years of acting.
Yes.
Tons of years of credibility on the screen.
Tip has a charm and a charisma about him that when he's in that zone.
So you're saying they made you step it up?
Yeah, he's unstoppable.
Me, I'm not as talented in that way.
So I work very hard to try to get myself in there.
You're every bit as talented.
You may not be as good.
I got to go all the way in.
In my opinion, damn.
In my opinion.
Cut him off.
No, don't worry.
Oh, no, my first one.
But in my opinion, like, to me, Marlon Wayne's been acting for years,
but that sex tublet was like that.
It was like, it kind of finally showed.
I think this is the one for you, like, because it kind of showed a different side of you.
Like, you're always like the pretty boy, no offense.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you're always like getting the girl.
How long can I be the mama's boy?
I got to do something different.
Getting the girl, and you out here, like, getting bit.
You're throwing niggas to die.
You putting niggas in the cellars.
You like, you like, it's ill.
Like you like, you're like, oh shit, you're not nice.
And you look at some legs, god damn it.
Bearded, that's the bearded chance.
The bearded, yeah.
I grew a full beard for this role.
I had to do it.
I've seen the Beijing.
I've seen the Beijing.
Ah! role. I had to do it. I've seen the Beijing. I've seen the Beijing.
Now, have you ever I'm sure, Tommy,
like, played a role so
much that you become
that role? I
haven't, and I think I base it on just
coming from the theater, having a theater background
and training. Also, my wife
wouldn't put up with that shit. Okay.
She's a Russian from Jersey, man.
She'd kill me in my sleep.
Holy shit, let's make noise for Russians from Jersey.
Oh, shit.
Oh, so actually, too.
Okay, because one time, I don't know if I should say this guy's name, but I did a movie
with him, and he just stayed in character.
He was like, he just became the character, and the character was a breakout convict. So he was like a, he just became the character and the character was a uh uh he was a breakout convict
so he was like a he just stayed in what moved the door like all day and at first i was saying to
myself hanging around him what an idiot right but then i acted it's not my profession but then when
i started to see how people really are serious with this and people really make their whole lives with this I was like oh okay I got it have you ever been in this yeah
I feel like when I started off with Tommy just like everything I always said I kept Tommy as
close as I needed to um and then it's just like riding a bike you I also spent a long time months
and months of being as much time as I needed to create that character, you know, and watching a ton of million 50 cent interviews.
He's great on Drink Chance.
Oh, God damn it.
God damn it.
That's right.
That's right.
You know, so I did the research before I stepped it up.
So when people say, oh, that Tommy character, Tommy,
oh, it's great to see how Tommy changed.
I'm like, Tommy didn't change at all.
I mean, they changed the writing.
They changed the situations.
But that guy is the first guy.
The first day of the first setup or the first take we ever did is the same Tommy when we ended the Power Show.
I promise you that.
So the writers changed.
I think that that's important for an actor to know.
So, yeah, like I kept Tommy as close as I needed to keep Tommy.
And then you flip it on, you flip it off.
Also, like in the Fear movie, I feel like if I was always wrong and, you know, paranoid about stuff and always thinking.
Because you're a writer in the movie, right? Yeah, yeah. I was a wrong and, you know, paranoid about stuff and always thinking... Because you're a writer
in the movie, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I was a writer
and a researcher
and I'm researching
at the thing.
But I also...
This was an...
This is an unprecedented thing
during the height of COVID.
That's what I was going to ask.
The funny thing is,
Lou, T.I. character,
the first one to get sick, right?
You guys all take a test.
Wait a minute,
spoiler alert. Oh, my bad. Oh, the first one to get sick, right? You guys all take a test. Spoiler alert.
Oh, my bad.
Oh, my bad.
But what's funny about it is he was the only one with a mask.
When he came in.
When we arrived.
When you arrived.
Also, don't forget, don't forget there is another female character that also has a propensity of trying to mask up.
But who said I was sick?
I don't know.
I don't know. Accusations.
So, Tip,
you from Atlanta. One of the
biggest things going on is Young Thug
and the Young Thug slash Gunna, right?
Some people saying, ah, this is a little tricky.
Uh-uh.
Okay.
I'm exasperated just hearing you say it.
I don't even know what that means.
Exasperate, I'm a guest.
Yeah, overwhelmed.
Overwhelmed.
Okay, all right.
So go ahead.
No, I'm saying I'm waiting on you to finish.
I was just in here. Yeah, because from the outside looking in,
I can't make,
I can't place judgment because I guess I'm not in it
and I don't know how Atlanta law works.
No, Atlanta law, the law is universal.
Okay.
So how about tip?
How did you feel when you heard it?
I really, man, I hated to see it.
I hated to see it.
At the same time, man, I just hated to see it.
I really do feel that if things were explained a little bit differently,
or if he had an opportunity to speak to someone who could advise him.
Meaning Gunnar?
Whomever's involved that might not like the outcome of their decision.
If they could have spoke to somebody and somebody could have said,
man, you know, if you do this now, this is what this means.
I don't think if they would have had it, like, if they would have had it Like If they would have had
That advice
And they would have had
The opportunity
To speak to somebody
I don't believe
They would have made
The same decision
However
We are all
You know
We are bound
To our decisions
And we can't escape that
Right
You know what I mean
But
Free
Free
Free slime
It seems like
It was a war On New York at one point, right?
Like all of us, like, you know,
50 has these stories of hip-hop police following him.
And then, you know, obviously I have the same stories of,
you know, things happening.
But it's like, now it's like, they're not in New York.
Now it seems like, seems like, from outside looking in,
it seems like they're heavy on Atlanta because,
is it partially because Atlanta's kind of like running the music business?
Well, to be honest with you, even when, like with Hip Hop Cops and whatnot,
okay, they were in New York because that's where the action was.
Yeah.
It wasn't just that they focused on New York.
You know, New York is what they were aware of.
And so whatever they are aware of, that's what they're going to focus on.
Right.
Right now, they're aware of Atlanta.
I mean, they're aware of everything.
With the social media and everybody, like, you know, just kind of on the—
they're aware of all of it.
You know what I mean?
So it spread out.
One thing that's funny about the case, in any other case, except for Meek Mill, in any other case, we always say, you know, it's the white people holding us back and it's the white people doing this.
The DA is black.
The prosecutor is black.
The judge is black.
It's like, damn.
Man.
It hurts.
Man, I just miss my partner, man.
You know what I'm saying?
I just miss my partner.
I mean, we could get into the minutia, the politics, the bureaucracy,
but when it all said and done, I just miss my little brother, man.
I remember seeing bro come from nothing.
I remember with the fucked up teeth, with the gappy dreads,
with the, you know what I'm saying, figuring out what to wear, doing what he could, and turning that into something so, I mean, just so substantial that he could offer other people opportunities.
And made other people rich.
And made other people rich.
And successful. I believe he probably has reached back more than anybody
in any generation.
Like genuinely
just reached back
and just did
at the kindness
of his heart.
You know what I mean?
And I just
I just miss my partner.
I done got more
and I done got more
thank yous from Thug
than I have from some of my own artists. Wow. more, and I done got more thank yous from Thug than I have
from some of my own artists.
Wow.
You know what I'm saying?
And thank you
for just being you.
I done got more appreciation.
I mean,
he kind of considered,
he like,
yo, bro,
you were the first
major artist
to rock with me,
to believe in me.
You were the first one.
I guess,
you know,
with About The Money,
like,
that was a major look
for him.
At least, you know, according to him. And he, you know, with About the Money, like, that was a major look for him. At least, you know, according to him.
And he, you know, just always expressed, like, his gratitude.
And that's more than I've received from a lot of my own artists that's on my label that, you know, I had a hand in their career for real.
And he was a real good dude, bro.
And I don't think...
Everything that's going on around, bro, man,
I think it's a test.
You know, it's a test,
and it's going to become his testimony.
All he got to do is continue to stand tall
and stay silent.
And I believe God going to work everything out.
Yeah, God bless.
Let's say free thumbs.
Free thumbs.
Now, how did you get approached fair?
Like, how did your agent call you?
How does this happen?
No, this is one of those great opportunities
when you actually build your own community
of people that you love and trust.
And as Tip alluded to before,
I'm not scared to use words around you.
We got a dictionary. We got a dictionary.
Come on. We got a dictionary.
I got
a call from Dion Taylor, the great Dion Taylor.
Incredible
filmmaker, cinema
tour.
He just gave me a call. It was July
of 2000.
2020.
Just at the height of COVID.
We were three months in.
And he's just like,
yo, Jay, I got this idea.
And I was like, all right, man,
break it down for me.
What are we doing?
And so he kind of told me
about the film.
And I was like, all right, all right, all right.
I said, what do you want me to do?
He said, you know,
I'm like, I'm not flying.
He's like, get a car.
He's like, all right.
So I drove from Brooklyn
to Lake Tahoe
and I had some fun. Me and my wife. Where did y'all say it's at? Where did y'all say the thing I drove from Brooklyn to Lake Tahoe, and I had some fun.
Me and my wife.
Where did y'all say it's at?
Where did y'all say the thing is at?
It was in Tahoe.
It was in Strawberry, California.
Oh, okay.
Right outside of Tahoe, probably about 30, 45 minutes.
Probably from here to Fort Lauderdale.
Okay.
Okay.
How did you get the movie approach?
So Deion Taylor is a mastermind.
He's also a madman.
Okay.
He calls you early in the morning, late at night with ideas, and he sells you, right?
Terrence, you know, I've been thinking about you, man.
You know, you're really talented, and people love you, and we know you from being like the mama's boy in the 106.
But, like, I think you need to dig deeper, man.
We got to do a role that just is different from anything that you've ever done, man.
I want you to be an asshole in this movie.
I want you to be a bad guy.
I want people to hate you in this film.
And so he sells you in that way.
And I get off the phone.
And by the time I talk to my agents, they're like, you committed to doing a three-picture deal with Dion?
I'm like, yeah, we're doing movies. And before you know it, we're on, you committed to doing a three-picture deal with Dion? I'm like, yeah, we're doing movies.
And before you know it, we're on set.
So it's a three-picture deal?
No, no, no.
I probably did, knowing Dion.
Okay, okay.
But the beautiful thing about D is that he brought everybody to the table.
All of us are producers.
All three of us are profit, know, profit participation producers at the table.
So when this does well, when this grows, whatever happens, we're incentivized by having a real seat at the table.
They call it on the cap table.
Yeah.
And there's not a lot of, you know, people in his position as a director that offer that.
Right.
And then it becomes once you get that as a precedent
it's a it's a trickle-down effect so now i've been producing so many films it's been a back-to-back
thing for me but it's like you need those opportunities so that's what i love about this
film that's what i love about it is that you know all of us had you know part of the creative all of
us had a saying it was a very collaborative open process. And when you're dealing with a director and producer like D, it really is a great environment.
Give him some noise for that.
Yeah, D!
You ain't got to be the only ghetto one with a plastic cup, man.
Hey, man.
Come on, we done stepped it up.
We got a bar.
I'm the co-host, man.
I'm the co-host.
You can't tell me what to do.
Wait a minute.
I'm the co-host now. Man, I was listening tohost. You can't tell me what to do. Wait a minute. I'm the co-host now.
Man, I was listening to-
No, but how did you get the approach to do the movie?
That's what I was just about to say.
Okay, cool.
I was listening to Terrence talk, and it was phenomenal, the conversation that he had.
And I loved it so much that I remember that that's the same conversation that he had with me.
You know what I'm saying?
Nah, man.
Real talk, man.
Dion hit my line around the same time sometime late summer in 2020, height of the pandemic.
And Dion and I have talked about doing several projects together.
But this one, like the other projects, it's like, yo, I got an idea that's coming up. We're going to be shooting soon. And this one is like, nah Is like yo I got an idea
That's coming up
We're going to be shooting soon
And this one is like
Nah nah nah nah nah
This is this week
Right
Like now
Okay
I say man
In COVID
Yeah I say ain't nobody
Shooting no movies Dion
What is you
I got a crew
Right
If you could get here
We going to shoot this movie
I say damn okay
You know I was impressed you know what i'm
saying like this i like it you had to get tested every three days yeah all day yeah yeah okay every
day that we shot every day the cdc didn't have guidelines yet oh deon taylor and roxanne event
made up guidelines they called the cdc and said uh can we shoot a movie? And they're like, I don't know, can you? And they put together this list of guidelines
of what they suggested that they do.
Then Dion and Roxanne brought that to the WGA,
the DGA, and SAG.
And then SAG said, everybody said, okay,
if everybody will sign off on that,
you could do this movie.
We had to get tested every day that we filmed.
This is when they tickled your brain.
And then they would do the sample, and then somebody would drive from Tahoe to Los Angeles to get the test results.
And then it would go like this, and somebody would drive back, and then somebody would do that.
Oh, y'all was living rough.
Let's make some noise for y'all.
I filmed Love & Hip Hop and Marist Boot Camp during the thing
and I had to test
every three days.
So it was Monday,
Wednesday, and Friday
for both shows.
You know,
I was filming both
at the same time.
One didn't believe the other.
So it wasn't like,
I could say,
yo, I just passed it.
I love hip hop
and then what you call it
would let me go.
That's how crazy COVID was.
I remember it got so crazy here.
Pharrell made all of us
take a test
before he came. And then he walked through and just sat here. Pharrell made all of us take a test before he came.
And then he walked through and just sat here. I was like,
nigga, you take a test too?
What have you even done?
I'm sorry, Pharrell. I've been mad to say it.
You saw my chest.
Oh, that's why he had the mask on.
At first, yeah. At first. And then he took a couple shots.
The mask was gone.
Yeah.
But we had a phenomenal
time and I think that
us coming together and choosing to do that
one, we were so happy to be
around other people.
We were so happy to
be acting. To be
doing a film
when they were saying that the movie industry
might not ever return.
You know what I mean?
And I think that faith
we put in each other,
that camaraderie we built,
you know,
and the place is really haunted.
Yeah.
Oh, no, it was real.
No, it was real.
No, it was real.
Oh, y'all selling the movie now?
Oh, no, no.
I'm telling you,
this is why y'all selling the movie.
There's some real shit going on.
This thing looking crazy, though.
I ain't gonna lie.
Strawberry Lodge is haunted.
Right. For real. Wow. bro. That thing looking crazy, though. I ain't going to lie. Strawberry Lodge is haunted. Right.
For real.
Wow.
Wow.
That story that he told about the brouhaha and the witches and the-
Yeah.
That's real.
All right, now.
That's real, bro.
It was so remote.
We shot this film in this remote cabin area, right?
Uh-huh.
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Oh, I like the movie. I'm sold.
The only one that did, everybody
stayed like on this little compound of a
strip, except for Tip. He had this mansion that was
like 30 minutes away. That's where I got that.
That's where I got that.
But we were staying in this thing,
like all of our house was connected.
Yo, there was, I lifted up the bed sheet
There was spiders that came out
You remember that
No real talk
There was spiders that came out
And strange bugs too
Yeah there was
There was strange bugs
There was noises and all that
And I was like
Man like
Do I stay in it
And D was like
Live in the moment
Live in it
Take it
Like this is all for your case
I was like Yo What, what the fuck?
So you was in fear.
I was in fear.
You was in fear.
Okay, okay.
You know, all the fear was going after this movie because we were sleeping with spiders and cobwebs and all of that.
But when you look at the finished project, it's all there.
It's all on the screen.
Like, everybody at this point of the pandemic, it was so early on in the pandemic.
Nobody was shooting anything yet.
Nothing was happening.
So there was like the real emotional fear
taking place in real life
and all of that reflects in this movie.
This is the scariest movie of the year.
The scariest movie.
Everybody was scared of that
in addition to the fear
that we had done put our money up
and we didn't know what was going to happen.
We had no idea
if we was even going to finish this motherfucker. We didn't know if someone would to happen We had no idea If we was even going to Finish this motherfucker You know
We didn't know if
Someone would get sick
And the city gets shut down
You know
We just
Yeah because if one person
Got sick on that set
If one person got sick
The whole fucking set
Shut down
Everyone right
Nobody got sick
Similar to like the movie
Nobody got sick
Once one person got sick
You got to try to get rid of everyone
No negative
Spoiler alert
I'm sorry
Oh shit My fault They going to go watch this But where is this movie Coming out on I try to get rid of everyone. No negative. Spoiler alert. I'm sorry. Oh, shit.
My fault.
They're going to go watch this.
But where's this movie coming out on?
That's the part I didn't establish.
Only in movies.
Only in theaters.
Only in theaters.
January 27th, only in theaters.
And you can go to fear.movie, type it into any search engine,
and it'll bring you to the page if you want to buy tickets early.
Oh.
So most films.
So we going back to old school.
Yeah.
The movie, popcorn.
Most films.
Popcorn.
And Almond Joyce.
Popcorn.
Come on.
Yes, yes.
Okay.
Most films will have like a studio, right?
Okay.
The studio.
But they don't got Almond Joyce no more?
Yeah.
Damn, for real?
Nah, man.
They still got Almond Joyce.
You the old motherfucker.
They still got Almond Joyce.
Oh, Raisin' Nuts.
Raisin' Nuts.
Raisin' Nuts. Sn Raise the net And as the oldest person
At this table
I'll say 100 grand
Okay
Okay
Okay
So in the studio system
You know
You'll come with the scripts
You'll come in
They'll give you the money
You'll have a backing
Right
There'll be a
You know
A support of backing
Right
This was all self-financed
This was all You know Usanced. This was all,
you know, us putting the money on
to shoot this project. So when we put
it out in theaters, there's
just a world of possibilities.
You know what I'm saying? This is not just going to a streaming
service. It's not on TV. This is like
in the theaters, real, you know,
theatrical release. That's fire.
That's fire. I'm proud to hear that.
I'm proud to hear that's making noise for them. We're going to do a quick pick. We're going to do a game. It's called. That's fire. I'm proud to hear that. I'm proud to hear that's making noise today.
We're going to do a quick pick.
We're going to do a game.
It's called Quick Time with Slime.
Usually EFN displays the rules.
He's not here today.
I'm going to fuck up the rules,
but I'm going to try
my best to explain it.
We give you a question.
If you be politically correct
and you pick both,
or you say neither,
then you take a shot.
Or you can say, you know, you can pick one.
If you pick one, you don't take a shot.
Pretty cool?
Yeah, yeah.
You didn't do that bad.
Should we set up the shots beforehand?
Yes, yes, yes, please.
And I look like you on vodka, right?
Yeah.
Okay, boom.
And it looked like you was on tequila. Tequila, Okay, boom. And it look like you was on tequila.
Okay, okay.
And it look like you was on tequila as well.
So let's get them tequilad up.
I'm going to get Sirach out.
I'll take De Leon.
Woo!
You know what I'm saying?
Come on, baby.
Let's give a round of applause for a black man.
Come on, baby.
Tequila.
What's up?
Come on. Tequila De Leon. Come on. And that Ace of Spades. on, baby. Come on, man. What's up? Come on.
It's the key to the day, Leon.
You need to...
And then Aza Spade.
Make some noise for Aza Spade, too.
What's up?
For Aza Spade.
What's up?
What's up?
What's up?
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What's up?
What's up? The best thing I know how to say in French is, and I know I'm not saying that correctly.
You can say,
Voulez-vous vous chez avec moi?
Voulez-vous vous chez avec moi?
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, I knew that.
Okay, we ready?
All right.
Starting with Tip first, of course.
Whoa.
The biggest boss here
I'm the host
Yes sir
Yeah but not right now
Okay
I don't know where you
Want to go with this one
Tupac or DMX
You drinking
You drinking
Yeah just for this This is the fair cast so y'all got to drink with him.
We got to drink.
Listen, by the way, I'm drinking with y'all, too.
Cheers.
I drank because I love Pac.
Yes.
I love Pac.
I feel like, you know, he instilled a lot of my principles and a lot of the, I guess, the dichotomy of my personality
come from,
you know,
him.
However,
as an artist at least,
however,
I actually got to meet DMX personally.
DMX came to my house.
Wow.
You know what I mean?
Wow.
I never,
you know,
I can't,
I can't chew one over the other.
I respect that.
That's why they picked it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah picked it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cool.
We're going to keep this going.
Scarface or Ice Cube?
Oh, man.
Cube will hate me, but I got to go with Scarface,
especially since he makes an appearance in the movie.
Almost.
I mean, we got some love, and that's not any kind of giveaway,
so I'm going with Scarface.
Spoiler alert.
Spoiler alert.
Mind playing tricks on me.
You don't have the drink on now.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
I got to skip you on this one.
Okay.
But I'm coming right back to you
That works, that works
Wait a minute, what that means
Cause this is
Cause I feel like this is
I feel like this one's designed for you
And I know
I know what you're going to say
But I'm just still going to throw it to you anyway
Organized Noise
Or Wu-Tang Clan
I know what Atlanta you're going to say.
Hey, listen, bro. Let me just, first of all,
let me say,
I have
an enormous amount
of genuine
appreciation and respect for the Wu-Tang
Clan. You know what I mean?
I watch the show.
I respect the roots.
On Hulu? Yeah, on Hulu. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I watch the show. Yes. I respect the roots. You talking about on Hulu?
Yeah, on Hulu.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I watch the show two seasons of it at least.
I respect the roots.
I respect the brotherhood.
Organize Noir put me in the game.
They were the first to welcome me on their tour bus and allow me to perform on the 99
Source Awards camera
blocking rehearsal with them.
I can't
go against
Organized Noise
at all.
But not due to a lack of
respect and admiration for
the woo. But I'm going to go
with Organized Noise
By Landslide on that one
Well Landslide protect your neck
I see what you did there
Nah I have to man
Anybody who had a personal account
Who reached their arm out to me
But when nobody else knew who I was
And knew what I had going on
Man that's lifetime appreciation
So exceptions are made for exceptional circumstances.
Nice try.
God damn it.
That was also a perfect answer.
I'm going to bounce around.
Y'all tell me when to go back.
I'm going to bounce around a little bit because I feel like this is more of a you question.
Fab or Jadakiss?
I know you party with Fab more.
Fab or Jada Kiss.
The world is watching
Terrence just now.
When you talk about New York City,
I'm going with Capone
and Noriega.
That was a cheat code.
That was a cheat code. That was a cheat code.
Hey.
That man pulled one out of that,
didn't he?
All right.
CNN, baby.
Al Pacino or Robert De Niro?
Man, that's tough.
Get your shot?
I think I probably need a refill.
And not because I don't want to choose.
I want to choose one of them.
It's like just for the body of work.
I mean, I'm thinking right now, the first Dog Day Afternoon came up in my mind.
And that was a brilliant performance.
But then heat comes up in my mind, and they just kill each other.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But not heat for me.
Yeah, because that's both of them.
Scarface.
Yeah, Scarface.
My God, Scarface.
Son of a woman. Son of a woman.
Son of a woman.
Yeah, that's who I,
that's kind of the beginning
of the Al Pacino era
where he's just
Al Pacino in every role.
Right.
Ooh.
And not just,
because it's Scarface.
It's a good trick.
Carlitos way.
Godfather.
Carlitos way.
What are we kidding ourselves?
Let's just take a shot.
Let's take a shot, man.
Let's take a shot, man.
Salo.
Salo. It's a trick question anyway. I'm like a shot, man. Let's take a shot, man. Salo. Salo.
It's a trick question anyway.
I'm like,
why everybody at this table
so tough?
I was thinking
Meet the Falkers.
I love De Niro.
I love the range.
I love the range of De Niro.
The intern?
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, yeah.
The thing for me,
like, I love range.
So I would always put
De Niro above Pacino for me.
Okay. Even though I love, I mean, Pacino is legendary, obviously, but I love rings, so I would always put De Niro above Pacino for me.
Even though I love, I mean, Pacino is legendary, obviously,
but I love that De Niro has so much range.
He got comedy, he got thrillers, he got dramas, he got all this. We could stay here all day.
What's the Jimmy Hoffa movie?
I feel like Pacino, chill like De Niro, Black Gambino, die like a hero.
You know what I mean?
It's tough to choose.
It is.
It's hard a lot.
It is.
Terrence, you ready?
Yeah. Justin Timberlrence, you ready? Yeah, yeah.
Justin Timberlake or Justin Bieber?
Ooh.
We're drinking now.
These are my producer's questions.
Timberlake or Bieber?
That's such a...
How did we get here?
I don't know.
Back to your 106 and Park roots I would presume
Yo if there's one thing
About me
I'ma be political
Shots up
Salud
Salud
Hey man
I'm not gonna keep
Taking shots
Hey man
It's a part of the
Guest's obligations
And co-hosts
Co-hosts obligations
Okay
Who about the key
Yup Drummer boy Or just Blaze Can you stop being Co-host obligations Okay Who about the key out
Yup
Drummer boy
Or just Blaze
Can you stop being
For Atlanta for one minute
First and foremost
I'll have you know
We will let the record show
Drummer boy is from Memphis
Ooh I didn't know that
Yeah
Drummer boy from Memphis
You know what I'm saying
That's right
Okay
He rocked with a lot of us Recipes against's right. Okay. He rocked with a lot of us.
Recipes against the boot.
Yeah, right on.
He rocked with a lot of us in Atlanta, and he's welcome.
Right.
You know, he's been embraced by the town, but he's truly from Memphis.
Right.
Still a part of the city, though.
You know what I mean?
Can't take that from him.
Even still, I'm going to go back to my personal. Me and Blaze done had hits.
Even outside of big hits, sort of like Live Your Life,
he did two or three of my intros to my albums in a row.
You know what I'm saying?
Me and Blaze, we have a more intimate working artistic relationship than Drummer Boy and I.
So I'm going to go with just Blaze.
Oh, wow.
Oh, shit.
I should take a shot just from doubting you.
I'm going to go ahead.
I'm sorry.
You do that.
You do that.
I'll do this by myself.
You do that.
There you go.
Round of applause.
Welcome to Avenue.
Taking the shot.
I would have bet wrong. Okay. There you go. Round of applause. Man, what happened to Norris? Taking the shot without us.
I would have bet wrong.
Okay.
And what is it?
Why do you think that I'm just going to automatically just go with someone just because they're from the South?
Because me and you got a movie that we're planning on doing, Us in Space.
Yeah.
And your character is the dude that's always from Atlanta, and I'm the dude that's always from New York.
No matter what we do, even in space.
So I just always visualize you like that.
But those are characters, though.
Those are characters, yeah.
But I'm method acting right now.
I'd like to produce this.
Which I called it, when you put your money in,
is profit for participation.
I understand what that means.
First dollar gross.
Okay.
Okay.
Because I think you're going to be politically correct.
Yay or for real?
Oh, that's tough.
I know we're drinking now.
So back to the last question.
I'm going to go with Justin Bieber.
You got to take a shot. I'm going to go back. Bieber. You know what I'm saying? You got to take a shot.
I'm going to go back.
If you retract your statement, that's a shot for that mistake.
I think you got to do a shot of like Fernet or something.
How did I go back?
I thought I was buying points for a few times.
No, no.
No, no.
Hmm.
Are we talking?
What are we talking?
This is a shot.
No, no, no, no, no.
Are we talking culture? Are we talking... What are we talking? This is a shot. No, no, no, no, no. Are we talking...
Deliberating.
Are we talking culture?
You got some hating shots over here.
Are we talking music?
Are we talking overwhelm?
I'm watching you.
No criteria.
Yeah, no criteria, man.
Yeah, I'm going to take my shot.
All right, take your shot.
Come on.
Look, look.
Take the shot.
No, sir.
Yeah, yeah.
Two different things.
For fear.
For fear.
All right, come on.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
Salute.
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Salute.
Salute.
Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute. For fear, for fear. This is the most legitimate shot so far. Exactly.
Okay.
My man.
You ready?
Yeah.
Snoop Dogg or 50 Cent?
50 Cent.
Damn, that's it.
That's that. That's that.
That's that.
That's that.
That's that.
That's that.
That's that.
That's that.
That's that.
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That's that.
That's that.
That's that.
That's that.
That's that.
That's that.
That's that.
That's that.
That's that.
That's that.
That's that.
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That's that.
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That's that.
That's that.
That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That's that. That heard that. I almost heard that.
I fought with Joe, man.
Joe A, man.
So look, I'm going to throw you a curveball, though.
Okay.
T.I. and 50 go up on the top. I want to see the verses.
I'm there for the verses.
I'm about the verses.
Let's see the verses.
You ain't let me ask the question.
Okay.
You know, there's the red ring and there's the blue ring.
Yeah, yeah.
50 in the red ring.
T.I. in the blue ring.
Where's Joseph C. that?
Mmm.
Damn.
Don't do that to him, man.
No, I mean, first off, we're drinking.
That's not fair.
That's so unfair.
That's so unfair. That's so unfair.
But I will give a shout out to 50 Cent because this came up recently.
50 Cent is the best boss I've ever had.
Wow.
He's incredibly loyal.
Here's a word for you, Nor.
He's didactic.
Ooh.
Just so he means he likes to teach.
He brings people up around him
Fiff is a
great person
I don't want to get on his bad side
but
T.I. just gave you a pass
and he did and then working
with Tip you see somebody who's like
I gotta give Tip credit on being
when ATL came out I was like nah
and then you watch it and you're like, this guy's a
fucking great actor. His roller skating.
At first, his roller skating was shaky
and he learned on the set.
And then on and on from there.
And only stepped it up as an actor.
And I always respect, I was so happy when he did this film.
And then to work with him, he's
a wonderful, kind person.
After I broke my kneecap, I
appreciated Tip. Got me a thank you. kneecap, I appreciate it, Tip.
Got me, thank you.
You said enough. I could not have made it out alive without you.
I get it.
You said enough.
Are we taking a shot?
Let's take a shot.
Come on, man.
Come on.
Solid, solid.
Solid.
Joseph shot the movie with a broken kneecap, by the way.
The whole movie.
Eight days in it.
He's walking the whole movie.
You're like one of them basketball players that played with their ACL still fucked up?
That's how...
Yeah, because it was also COVID, and they were like, oh, you should go to the hospital.
I said, no way.
They're dying to die.
We had to get him some other forms of cortisone.
Oh, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Holy shit, I wasn't ready.
We made it through.
And I remembered my lines.
Okay. Thank you. Come on, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Holy shit, I wasn't ready. We made it through. And I remembered my lines. Okay.
Thank you.
Come on, bro.
All right.
There you go.
Eddie Murphy or Martin Lawrence?
Oh, man.
You got a leftover shot.
No, no, no.
I'm going to answer this.
I'm going to say Eddie Murphy.
Okay.
Martin had a lot of influence on me.
I grew up in the Martin generation.
I grew up watching him.
Martin!
Yeah, but I think Eddie, I mean, I think Martin would say Eddie.
And I think, like, I think we got to make sure we give our icons their flowers.
Right.
And Eddie is a huge icon.
And Eddie has a movie called You People Coming Out on the Same Day.
Right.
On Netflix.
On Netflix.
Yes.
So we got to, you know, right.
I love Martin.
And Lauren London, by the way.
And Lauren London is in there, too.
Eddie and Lauren London.
Right.
Yeah.
Nia Long.
Nia Long is playing Jonah Hill.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you say what now?
Jonah Hill. Yeah. Who else? Lauren London is playing Jonah Hill. Yeah. Did you say what now? Jonah Hill.
Yeah.
Who else?
Lauren London is playing Jonah Hill.
Lauren London and Jonah Hill are a couple.
Yeah.
Eddie and Nia Long are Lauren's parents.
And then you have Louise.
Nia Long been outside lately.
Let's be clear.
Julie and Louise Dreyfuss.
Who?
Nia Long been outside lately.
Listen.
Nia Long must be protected at all costs.
She's going to grab Terrence's hand.
I'm going to grab Terrence's hand.
Am I the host or am I a guest?
No, I'm asking.
I'm asking, am I a host or am I a guest? You a host and a guest.
I'm a host.
I need to know what, in this capacity, am I operating?
I need to know what hat I'm putting on.
Oh, okay.
You got on both hats, sir.
You always have on a lot of hats, my nigga.
All right.
All right. All right. Listen,
as a member of the cast in Fear,
I'm going to reserve
my silence.
Oh, the Nia Long side.
Okay.
I respect that.
No, I was just saying
because when...
Nia Long, man,
she been keeping company lately.
Yeah, she been my son.
No, no, no.
No, first,
I mean her. No, no, no. No, first, I mean, her.
No, no, no, no.
I just realized what was happening.
Nia Long is like a sister.
I'm just joking, bro.
Yeah, she my sister, too.
Listen, if Nia Long ever goes to open a door,
anybody should make sure her door is open.
That is a, she is an icon,
and it must be protected and respected.
And she want to be outside.
She deserve to be outside.
God damn it.
Absolutely nothing romantic.
Like, no, that's family.
And that just goes to show you how much preposterous nature it goes into the headlines.
Yes, exactly.
People put false narratives out there.
Oh, my God.
You feel me?
All right.
Yeah, we got to go to you now.
Nino Brown.
Easy.
Or Tony Montana.
Nino Brown.
I respect that.
Easy.
This should have went to him, but I'm sending it to you because I want to be awkward.
No, no, no, no.
This one.
I got a different one for you.
Jeezy or Gucci, man?
That is tough.
Man.
I kind of want to have a shot anyway.
You got one ready?
Yeah.
Let's take a shot, but I got to give also,
let me give a shout out to Jeezy.
Okay.
You got to be able to bump in this game.
If you're a partner, somebody got to be able to step in.
No, no, no.
Ain't no tag team.
Come on, take your shot, though.
I've been seeing you.
This shot is a dangerous shot.
You know we got some shit to do after this, right?
Oh, shit, yeah.
This.
You know it's the most.
This ain't the last stop. We got some more stuff to do. This is important? Oh shit, yeah, this This ain't the last time
We got some more stuff to do
This is important
After this
Hold on, hold on, okay
Ooh, okay
Nipsey or Eazy-E?
Nipsey
The more shots I take, the faster my response is
Nipsey, Nipsey
I mean, obviously
It kind of goes back to what you were saying I knew Nip personally Nipsey I mean Obviously It kind of goes back
To what you were saying
I knew Nip personally
Right
Nip was a man of respect
He's a man I admired
When he was here
He was
You know
Everybody has a lot of things
That they
They appreciate about him
I want to take the time
Out to appreciate
How fly Nip was
I remember
You remember that
Rock Nation brunch
You had the yellow You remember you had That yellow suit on I do Yo Your fly Nip was. I remember, you remember that Roc Nation brunch? You had the yellow, you remember you had that yellow suit on?
I do.
Yo, your man Nip came through with that.
He had that, it was like that two-tone pink on, he had that pink shirt.
Let's call it mauve.
Mauve.
You feel me?
Mauve shirt with the jacket, you know what I'm saying?
Came through. And obviously,
he's super smart,
intellectual,
philosophical,
but yo,
he was fly.
That dude was fly.
He would come in
fresh to death.
He was funny.
He was fly.
I got to go with Nipsey Hussle.
Definitely.
I would like to
take some time
to just point out
how courageous
in business he was.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Because there's already like a template or a protocol, you know what I mean?
Like an outline in ways the industry has kind of put forth for us to do business.
And he challenged that protocol.
Yes, he did.
You dig what I'm saying?
I remember him calling me Asking me how I turned
You know my merch item
The Hustle Gang sweatshirt
Into an entire line
The A-Ku
Well no
A-Ku was already in existence
This was my second line
Okay
Hustle Gang
And he was like
Yo bro how you do that
And I basically told him
And I went and found some people
Who could do the marketing And distributions and who could handle the sales department so I could focus on other things.
And he said, well, you got a spot in Atlanta?
I said, no, because, and to be honest with you, this is still a thing.
16 years into a partnership, still a thing.
My partners don't want to do retail at all,
but I think we should have a flagship store in Atlanta.
And he was like, well, why you ain't got no spot in the A?
I was like, bro, you know, partners don't want to do it.
I don't really, you know, I got so much other stuff I'm working on.
I watched him take that conversation and went and did the exact opposite of what I told him I was doing.
Wow.
He didn't find a partner.
He learned marketing.
He learned distribution.
He learned sales.
And he bought a property that made a flagship store Like the home base And he was the first person
I seen use a QR code
You know what I'm saying
Like how we go to a restaurant
And take a picture
Of whatever we looking at
And we get the menu
Like he was the first person
I seen really do that effectively
What was he doing that with?
He was doing that
At the marathon store
Like that's how you can learn
About the items
And get the pricing
Oh okay
And he had
I think Snoop got that
On his bottles
Or wine right now
Yes
But to me
The first person
I saw do it
Was Nip
Wow
And that shit was just
So impressive to me
It was just so impressive
I knew Nip
I didn't know him
As well as you guys
But I'm always impressed
When the stories I hear
Because like he always Like showed me love And told me like You know I knew Nip I didn't know him As well as you guys But I'm always impressed When the stories that I hear Because
Like he always like
Showed me love
And told me like
You know
Like
You know
Like
Every time I met him
He made it about me
He's like yo
No you know man
I looked
And I was like
I remember
Me being shocked
Because
I'm not used to that
This young generation
Doing that
I'm not used to them
Showing the love back
You know what I mean
Right
So yeah rest in peace Nips Right I'm not used to them showing the love back. You know what I mean? Right. So, yeah, rest in peace, Nips.
Right.
I'm going to go to you.
Huh?
I'm going to go to you.
Eminem.
We're done with this.
No, no, no, no, no.
We almost done.
Eminem or Busta Rhymes?
You know what?
Thank you, Black Man.
Come on, man.
What are you doing, bro?
This is like Eminem.
What's up, man?
Yeah.
Look, man.
I'm going to go bust the rhymes.
I'm going to go bust the rhymes,
not because I don't have an enormous amount of respect
and admiration for him.
But Buss, we done spoke recently.
You know what I'm saying?
We done spoke recently.
We were in Dubai together.
We had a bit of adversity to overcome, but we overcame it together as a family.
Not Dubai.
I'm sorry.
Saudi Arabia.
Saudi.
With Khaled, right?
Yeah.
Y'all ain't smoking weed out there.
And he, no, man.
You know that's frowned upon out there. Yeah, yeah. I'm fucking with you. You know, can't nobody do no shit smoking weed out there And he Nah man You know you can You know that's frowned upon
Out there
Yeah yeah I'm fucking with you
You know can't nobody
Do no shit like that
Out there
Who would do a thing like that
Come on man
Knock it off
You gonna feed
Into the propaganda
Nah
I'm asking
I'm just curious
Nah anyway
So
Man Buzz has always Been a brother to me.
He's another one of the guys that, you know, you see in the game.
And when you speak to him and you try to show him all this admiration, all this love and respect,
and he turn it back and make the conversation be about you.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, he does.
You know what I mean?
And I bet you if you asked
Buss the same question
he would say,
or if you asked Em
the same question
he would say Buss.
Yeah.
I feel you.
I feel you.
Em is dope like that.
Man, Em to me though,
I feel like
let it be
made perfectly clear.
He don't have to
fuck with nobody.
But still he does.
You see what I'm saying i love his speech so
i gotta admire i gotta show some admiration to him and salute him for that do you see his speech
where he just thanked all them hip-hop pioneers it just made my respect for him yeah he like i
think it was the rock and roll hall of fame i'm not sure was it and he got up there where he could
he could thank like anybody in the world He's out there
Just thank all the
Hip hop pioneers
Like Ice Cube
LL
And it was just like
It was just like so dope
Like you know what I mean
It sound like him though
Yeah
It was dope
And I was also impressed
When I went to do my record
With him
And I saw how much
Of a business
He worked his shit
Like a fortune 500 office
Sessions with
With Norit
Gonna be like Okay 8pm 10. Sessions with Nori gonna be like,
okay,
8 p.m.,
10 p.m.
Sessions with Tilt,
sessions with Tilt
might be,
you know,
anywhere from 6 p.m.
to midnight.
Sessions with M,
9.30 a.m.
Oh, no,
I'm like that.
He's about this motherfucker
at 5.30,
6 p.m.
And that's that.
And I,
you know,
I learned that from him,
that way of, you know of kind of applying your time
in the same time of daylight as other industries.
Me and Pharrell, back in the day,
9 o'clock at night, me and Pharrell,
10 a.m.
We old men, we kids.
10 a.m., God damn it.
But yeah, Pharrell and I had the same working hour,
but I was on work release
You know what I'm saying
I was kind of like
Clocking out
Oh Jesus
And then coming
And
Which is a crazy story
That applies to
To BMF
That we could talk about
Because that's another
50 show
And we'll do that
Another time
Yeah
Okay
Great second
Okay
By the way
Carlito Way
Or Donnie Brasco?
Pinchy Way.
That's a tough one, too.
My God.
I love both of them movies.
I'm going to say...
I'm going to say Carlito's Way.
Yeah, me too.
Okay.
You ain't got to take a shot for that.
That means you picked one.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
That's how fucked up we've been.
We've been taking shots for everything.
Okay.
Timbaland or Swiss?
Ooh.
Damn.
I'm going to go with The Monster.
Swiss.
I'm going to go with Swiss beats The Monster.
I love Tim.
Love.
But I'm going to go with Swiss beats. Personal records that really changed my life. I'm going to go with Swiss beats To Monster I love Tim Love But I'ma go with
Swiss beats
Personal records
That really
Changed my life
I'ma go with Swiss
That's what's up
Miami or LA
So the name of this
We went this way
But this segment
The name of this
I know but the name
Of this segment
Is Rapid Fire
Yeah no
Quick Time with Slime
Quick Time with Slime Yeah Quick Time with Sly?
Yeah, yeah.
Bruh, we been on this shit.
How many rounds is this?
It's a number of rounds.
It's good to get the guess, fucker.
God damn.
You can't be blowing us up.
You on this side and that side.
You got to break both sides.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm just asking.
I'm going to take a shot.
Okay.
Okay. What was that for? Miami or LA? Miami or LA? All right. I respect that. Come on. Salute. I'm going to take a shot Okay Okay
What was that for?
Miami or LA?
Alright I respect that
Come on
Salute
Salute Cass
I'm going to take a shot man
Yeah
Okay man
I'm going to go
Relieve my brother
Yeah yeah go ahead
I'll be right back
Alright yeah that's cool
You got your other
They going to hold it down for you
You did
Alright
Young Thug or Kodak Black?
I'm going to go Young Thug or Kodak Black? I'm going to go Young Thug.
Ooh.
Okay.
All right, I'm going to let you go.
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This is easy for you.
You'd rather be feared Or loved
Oof
I want the love
I want the love too
I can't get enough
I want the love too
Can I comment on that real quick
That there's
Everybody always lies to you
And says that
It's better to be feared
Than be loved
That is such bullshit
It's better to be loved so much
That people are afraid
To let you down
God damn it
Wow God damn it I you down. God damn it. Wow.
God damn it.
I want the love.
God damn it.
Oh, that was dope.
That was dope.
That was probably the best answer.
Raekwon or Ghostface?
Oh, my God.
I know my answer, but I should probably drink.
Yeah, I think so.
I'm going to drink with you.
I ain't letting you out there by yourself.
Salud.
You can skip this one, Terrence.
Terrence, you look like you was coming from
Eddie Murphy's show right now.
You got the leather on,
the good carnies.
I got it in my eyes, man.
You ain't got it.
You look like, listen,
I'm going to be honest.
You so smooth right now.
You either look like you was coming from
an Eddie Murphy show
or a New Edition show.
It's either like,
you smooth, my brother.
I love it.
I admire you, man.
I like that.
I like that.
Oh, shit.
I lost my questions.
Hold on.
All right.
Ooh.
Yo, MTV Raps or Rap City?
Oof.
Rap City all day.
Big Tigger?
My brother, Big Tigger.
Which girl?
Yeah, Big Tigger?
Nah, when I started, you know, at BET, I was pretty much, Tigger was my mentor.
Wow.
You know what I'm saying?
Wow. I was pretty much Tigger was my mentor Wow You know what I'm saying Wow
Like he
He taught me the game
Him and Jason Riley
Taught me and my brother Fred
The game
You know
And when I was starting on the show
Like I was sleeping on the car
Tig would like
Get me gigs
Tig would give me clothes
Sneakers
Like all of that
Cause I was coming fresh
Big Tig a good person
Okay
Yeah I was coming fresh out of college
And we didn't have much.
And Big Tigg, like, completely made sure.
Like, it was never, like, animosity coming into the building with him.
Because he was, Tigg was hosting 106 and Park at the time of the transition.
For, tentatively, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was there.
Because he was, you know, he was a staple at the network.
He was on so many shows.
So, you know, and I think they should bring Rap City back, you know?
Yeah, they did.
It didn't work.
Okay, but bring it back again.
I'm going to produce it this time.
Bring it back again.
Yeah, no, I agree with you, though.
They should bring it back.
Bring it back.
I respect that.
You know what I never understood?
Hold on, brother.
We're going to finish this quick time with slime.
And it's going to get right to you.
You sure?
Because this shit been running for a while. It's right to you. UGK or 8-Ball MJG Hold on, brother. We're going to finish this quick time with slime, and it's going to get right to you. You sure? Because this shit been running for a while.
It's right to you.
UGK or 8-Ball MJG?
Man, bro.
I just said that.
I love the evolution of T.I. on Drink Jazz.
We're going to show every episode.
It's the same shit.
And it's always wonderful.
It's always a treat when the players meet
Um shit
Okay
Okay
There's only two more questions
This is your last one though
You got one more
It's your last one
You got one more
I'm calculating it I'm sorry
Um Shit It's your last one. I got you. Then you got one more. What? My fault, my fault. I'm calculating it. I'm sorry.
Shit.
Man, on the pimp, I got to go UGK.
Okay.
Okay, that's what's up. On the pimp, I got to go UGK.
I'm going to you.
Now, your outfit already says who you're going to pick.
Puff Daddy or Dr. Dre I thought I told you that
I'm just saying
I could be wrong
I could be wrong
I can help you
Now
What y'all wanna do
Wanna be ballers
Shot callers, brawlers
Yo, so yo, back to stories
So it's 2006, 2007 maybe
First BET Awards ever
Puff Daddy got me my first tailored suit ever
Like he tailored me, got the whole thing
Had the tailor come by
Woo
Make sure I was super fresh to death
Like
I don't care what nobody say about Puff man
Puff
Is one of those people who
Change the game
That's right
You know what I'm saying
Like when we think about what we do now
Yep
Private jets
Yes
You know
Big yachts
Yes
You know how to dress
How to move
Go here go there
Like Puff is just
One of those people
That has always opened the door
So I gotta go
I gotta go with Puff Daddy
God damn
Shout outs to Revolt
Shout outs to
Shout outs to Revolt TV
We happy where we at
Tribe Called Quest Or Brand Newbie to a Bogey B. We happy where we at.
Tribe called Quest or Brand Newbian?
Oh, man, that's easy for me.
That's Tribe all day,
but I love Brand Newbian.
Okay.
I love Brand Newbian,
but Tribe was such a part
of my life.
I don't think we hear enough
from Grand Poobah.
Grand Poobah,
we need Grand Poobah.
Yeah.
I love that,
the Golden Arrow,
that was amazing.
But like Tribe, you know, being a graffiti writer in Chicago, it was just like, man, Tribe was an anthem.
It was an anthem stuff for us.
There's just something about that.
I mean, the whole Zulu nation was dope, but like Tribe is up there for me.
I wore a native tongue shirt the other day.
None of the youngins knew what the fuck I was wearing.
I know Chris Lofton on the show.
Chris Lofton who plays Jannard on the Power Show.
He's always just like, he did a tweet today about something about like,
there's old school stuff and this and that.
I was just like, I can't even like talk to him.
I was just like, man, come on, lyricists, lyricists.
God damn it.
Lyrical champions, come on.
All right, this is the last one.
Lord Jamar is still, you know, very present.
Yes.
I think we need to hear more.
Grand Poobah?
Yes, yes.
Okay, this is a question for all three of y'all.
This is not a trick question,
on the contrary to popular belief.
Listen, what y'all believe?
And I'm going to ask all three of you at the same time.
Loyalty or respect?
Man, aren't they the same thing?
Let's get shots.
To me, that's the only time
we're supposed to take shots.
It's that.
You can't have one without the other, though.
Okay, that's exactly what I'm saying.
You can't have one without the other.
It's the oxymoron.
I can take one of Terrence's ten shots over here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He got some stashes over here.
I feel.
I feel.
He my friend,
so I ain't going to let him get away.
I'm almost, something is compelling me to say loyalty.
Right.
I feel like loyalty is the ultimate sign of respect.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, if you respect your, like, loyalty is like.
Sounds like both to me, sir.
I was just trying to get out of the shot.
You can't have one without the other. You cannot have one without the other. Damn it. Come me, sir. I was just trying to get out of the shot. You can't have one without the other.
You cannot have one without the other.
Damn it.
Come on, brother.
Your manicure is saying take a shot.
Come on.
Let's go.
Yeah, y'all lit now.
We lit now.
Now this is it.
We're the director.
We're the director.
And he got you up.
Should we turn the cameras down now?
Now the interview's really going to start.
You've never been to a workout with Hino?
Hino gets you fucked up first and then be like,
now we're going to work out.
Nigga, what did we just do for 45 minutes?
You a foul nigga?
Yeah, I seen you here.
That's why I said it.
That's why I said it.
I seen you here.
But T.I., recently, right, this footage.
Oh, wow.
Recently, I don't know what I'm saying.
This footage of you saying something about your cousin passing away and you addressing it, right?
Yeah.
And real street niggas know what you meant, right?
But there's certain people.
It's always that, isn't it? There's always certain people who always say that. And know what you meant, right? But there's certain people. It's always that.
There's always certain people who always say that.
And I'm just wondering, right?
Like, with, you know, people try to say, you know, what happened before.
And your paperwork turned out great.
Your paperwork turned out clean, everything.
Why would you even entertain that?
I never entertained that. No, I'm talking about When you said The cousin part
Oh but
Because I was having
The conversation
Prior to that interview
Okay
With a homeboy man
Okay
And we were on
Different sides of the argument
Oh
And they just took that piece
Yeah I got
But that's your footage though
Yeah it is
It's my footage
Okay
I stand behind it
Okay okay
I stand behind it
Um
And I ain't clear
Shit up This the first time I've ever even said Anything about it. I stand behind it. And I ain't clear shit up.
This is the first time I've ever even said anything about it
because I don't care what a motherfucker think.
Right, right, right.
It's real motherfuckers who locked up right now.
Right.
Both.
They're doing time for their crime.
They know I did time for them.
Right.
I went to jail so they wouldn't.
Wow.
Motherfuckers who doing time
Right now
Right
Real shit
That know that
About me
And also
It's motherfuckers
Who doing time right now
That know
That I know some shit
That I could've helped them
Right
Get
You know what I mean
But I didn't
Right
And I kept it
I kept it solid
100%
Right
And I care more about What 100%. Right. And I
care more about what they think about me
because they actually been in situations
with me. You get what I'm saying? Right.
With other motherfuckers on the outside,
what they think, feel,
what their opinion is,
I can't allow myself to get
caught up in that. I can't give people... Because no real person
believes that
you... I'm the only motherfucker being called a rat who ain't put nobody in jail. I can't get people. Because no real person believes that you.
I'm the only motherfucker being called a rat who ain't put nobody in jail.
Like, I ain't never.
You know what I'm saying?
It ain't nobody.
It ain't nobody who done raised their hand and said, yeah, he told on me.
However, I understand, bro. Most people are controlled by the majority of the things that they see and are exposed to.
And so once there's a narrative that's been created and it's pushed out there,
the motherfuckers who see it the most, they're going to go with what most people are saying.
With this particular instance, with my cousin, what I didn't elaborate to say is, first off, the case was resolved by Louise Hornsby.
And it was a motion to suppress due to they didn't have a right to search the car.
Illegal search of seizure.
You know what I mean?
Now, in the holding cell, me and my cousin,
we had a conversation.
First of all, my cousin wasn't a felon.
Like, it wasn't shit for him to have no gun,
as long as it was legal.
Right.
You feel me?
In Atlanta, all of y'all, everybody got legal guns.
But they were back in 2000 2000, 2001
Something like that
So
It wasn't shit for him to have no gun
And I'm his little cousin
Who had an opportunity
To move on
He was already saying
Surprise, you being T.I.
Yeah
So he was already saying
Yeah, man
I'ma take the gun
And you, you know
You'll handle the rest of the shit.
And I just know that this is a fabrication of a motherfucker's, like, motherfuckers fantasize about shit, about people they have no access to.
And they just imagine.
And this way it work out in their mind.
So I can't allow their. And they just imagine. And this way, it work out in their mind.
So I can't allow their fantasy
to become my reality.
I just can't do it.
That's real tough.
Like I said, man.
We're taking a shot for that.
Can I have some water, please?
What you need water for?
They don't do no drinking.
There's no chasers
I see management coming out
I don't think
There's some water out here
I don't think that shit
Had no bearing on my
It don't have no bearing
On my daily
It don't really affect me
All the real people
Who I know
Who done did time before
Who done really really
Like stood in the trenches
Ain't nobody worried About that shit But the motherfuckers Who typing on the internet know who done did time before, who done really, really, like, stood in the trenches. Right.
Ain't nobody worried about that shit but the motherfuckers who typing on the internet.
Yeah, Twitter finger people.
Yeah.
Definitely.
But what made you ask that?
You thought that was a tough question.
No, actually, I just Googled you.
Just to go see my friend.
Damn, that the first thing you pop up? Yeah, it was one of them.
I tell that to
Busta, I tell that to Nas sometimes
and I'll be like, yo, just because
I'm your friend and your family,
when you come sit down, I'm still going to Google you.
I'm going to still do my research because
I don't want to miss a
question and people be like, yo, why you didn't ask
that or why you didn't ask that?
Like when...
But can I ask a question though?
Yeah, yeah.
What?
He Googled the shit out of you.
Tell me.
Where's that bathroom?
Yeah, go ahead.
This is good, this is good.
Why does that shit become like so...
Because...
Okay, ask.
Why does that shit become so important to ask?
No, because you know what it was?
It's your footage, right?
Right.
So, obviously, you put it out.
Right.
And then people are trying to use that footage against you, right?
Sure.
Which is crazy, which I'm sure you proofread your book before you threw it out.
So, you knew that this was there.
It ain't nothing I was trying to hide.
Right.
And I'm going to go on to say this.
When I told you the conversation or the descriptors that I was having
with one of my own, one of my partners,
he was like, man, I ain't finna do that.
The conversation came from,
if we in a case together and I die,
put it on me.
God bless.
Put it on me, bro.
If I'm dead and you can go home, man, put the case on me God bless Put it on me, bro If I'm dead
And you can go home
Man, put the case on me
You hear me?
Yeah, yeah
And unless it was some shit
You know I wouldn't be a part of
If I was alive
You know what I'm saying?
If you got some dope
And I'm gone
And you're like, man, shit
It wasn't mine, so
Man, why not, bro?
You still have a life to live after I'm gone.
Why would I expect you to...
Like, where is the logic in that?
What?
Where is the logic in that?
But I see where people are so closely connected to it
because you got to think about the origination of the police.
And you got to think about you.
The thing about you is
you're the trap king.
So people, like, kind of
like, they want to discredit you.
I'm the trap originator. Exactly.
I'm the king of the South.
I'm the trap originator. You hear me?
I'm trap music originator.
I like that talk.
I like that talk. I'm the king of the South.
I don't believe that there is a monolithic view or opinion that makes one more eligible or not for another.
I just feel like, bro, to be a king or a person of authority is about making tough decisions.
And making tough decisions about considering all factors involved.
Now, there are some things based on your integrity, based on your morals, based on the principles that you've instilled in yourself that you just ain't going to do. And then it's a bunch of other shit that you just got to figure out how to kind of make that shit work into the best case scenario for yourself.
I ain't just going to say I ain't I'm not going to say another thing that we've talked about before.
The commercial. I'm not going to say no.
I'm not going to tell law-abiding citizens
not to call the police
so I can, you know,
not be of benefit
to a downward departure.
Not going to do that.
Because you know why?
Law-abiding citizens
are going to call the police
anyway.
And stay right.
And guess what? Street niggas were never going to call the police anyway. That's they right. And guess what?
Street niggas was never going to
not snitch.
They was never going to not keep it
silent because they seen me on a commercial.
It was never going to
be no nigga to say, you know what?
I wasn't going to tell, but
I just seen that nigga
tip on that commercial, man. I'm going to go on here
and do my thing man
Call my lawyer
That shit don't happen
Yeah
You feel me?
Yeah
Um
But I love my motherfucker
I love
I love my stats
I ain't never put no
I ain't never called the police
To put nobody in jail
I ain't never took
Stand and say nothing
To get no nigga no ounce
In no time
Right
I ain't never
So you know
But it's people
who hanging out with real life documented tellers and they get they pick up their phone and they
type and say yeah ti you didn't but what about the guy who called you just hopped that up you
just hopped out the car with a guy that you know did this and sent X amount of guys up the road.
But you still dealing with him.
But you want to pick up your phone
and talk about me.
That's the conundrum.
As I see it.
Crazy.
Crazy.
But continue on.
No, come on.
I feel like we should take a shot for something.
Come on, Ted.
Where's this child over here?
This is bothering me.
This little one right here.
What is it doing?
There's a secret one?
He needs it.
You saving it for later?
Just in case.
Yeah.
So how did you
initially meet 50?
Getting cast in the show.
I didn't meet 50
until I auditioned
for the show
and I barely met him then.
Then when I got cast
in the show,
it was a different story.
I went over there
with Omari Hardwick, who played Ghost.
We went to the G-Unit offices
that were at 40th and 8th Street.
They're not there no more.
And
Fifth just
gave me a hug. Said, man,
did a great job. And this is after he sued
Audition Tapes? No, no.
I had to audition five times for the role
of Tommy.
And I'm the only one cast out of New York,
which I'm proud of.
It was great.
It was a lot. I just thought
they're never going to cast me. They're going to cast
some guy who doesn't know.
Not that I was ever dealing copies of Monster Drugs,
but I have a certain amount
of played in the streets.
It was great to explore
that part of my life as a kid
and play bass a lot of Tommy
on guys I was scared of.
May I ask a question
as the co-host?
Yeah.
So.
Now you're getting into it.
Take a shot for me,
your goals.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
What about a shot
for you of these fears?
Hey, look, check this out.
As the guy going in
to audition for this role
You see that you came in five times
You got what?
Five times is four callbacks, right?
Yep
Okay
Who was your competition?
What other guys were you up against?
Initially
That you thought you would have lost to
At the first audition
It was, you know
They're throwing spaghetti at the wall. Right.
And there's a lot of... Is that a saying?
That's the real thing. No, that's the real saying. It's like
spitballing. Oh, okay.
You know what I mean?
I didn't
think it was a true thing.
I saw it, and I
would like to say it was an Italian mom who did it,
but it was actually a Mexican friend of mine whose
mom threw spaghetti at the wall.
She was like, what is she doing?
But it works.
Yeah, so I saw a lot of guys who were very classically handsome and didn't necessarily feel like there was any threat in them.
Not that I do necessarily, but I mean, I knew that the Tommy character had to have it.
Initially, his name was Eddie O'Neal, which is not quite as threatening either.
And then...
You mean to tell me you were concerned to losing the role of Tommy to Eddie O'Neal?
Oh, Eddie O'Neal, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I was concerned of losing the role of Tommy to...
I don't know Eddie O'Neal, by the way.
Standard Hollywood.
Standard Hollywood is,
you know,
it's kind of a template.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, to bring this
back around to Deion Taylor,
and I got to give a shout-out
to my guy Omar Joseph,
as well,
the second team director
who's a...
Mr. and Mrs. Omar Joseph.
Oh.
Where's Deion?
Deion on the left?
Deion on the left?
Where's Deion at?
Yeah.
Oh, I remember
You probably moving ahead
Or doing another interview
Or something
We got business
It's a movie coming out
This Friday
You know what I mean
It's already out
Well okay
Last Friday
A movie came out last Friday
But I'll make it super succinct
For you Tip Is that Out of the five auditions For the Tommy role The first one I was just like No they don't get it A movie came out last Friday. Mr. Leigh-At. But I'll make it super succinct for you, Tip.
Out of the five auditions for the Tommy role, the first one I was just like, no, they don't get it.
Then you get the callback.
And that was just for putting yourself on tape with the casting director.
Second audition was back with casting with notes from the people.
They sent it to 50 evidently and some other people, blah, blah, blah.
The third audition was a guy named David Knoller, Anthony Hemingway.
Shout out to Anthony Hemingway, my man.
And Courtney A. Kemp, one of the brilliant creators of the show.
And they then called me back for a chemistry read with Omari Hardwick because initially the role was going to be 50 Cent.
But then 50 didn't want to have such an incredible amount of workload to work, so then Omari was the guy.
So then we all had to do a chemistry read to see if we chemically, whatever, I don't
know, whatever the hell that people see with that stuff.
And then there was the final network test with the bigwigs.
And then I finally got the Tommy rule.
That's hard.
Now, my question was, who would, because every time we go and read for a role,
there's always this other person
that they're considering.
And I'm going to tell you
how I know.
So, I got the role of ATL
because Dallas Austin came to me
about his first movie.
And this was like...
I love that movie,
by the way, Tim.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Appreciate it. But I got that movie, by the way, Tim. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Appreciate it.
But I got that role because Dallas Austin came to me
when he was working on his first movie,
and I was working on my second album.
And he'd been hearing a lot about me in the city and shit,
and he was like, yo, I want you to be in my movie.
I was like, I bet.
He was like, yeah, go read for it.
So I went and read for it.
And they was like.
You know, when he said read for it, you knew that meant audition?
I did.
Okay.
I did.
Continue, because most people don't know.
Yeah.
They think like, read for it.
I watched two-part interviews.
And like, I just saw like two-part interviews and then Ice Cube interviews.
And like, they, you know.
They broke it down.
I kind of understood the process.
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah i did um but anyway so i i i went in and read and they were like yeah yeah it's good can
you play the drums i'm like no they're like well you're gonna have to learn how to play the drums
for this role i was like i can learn how to play like i know how to play drums You know what I'm saying And they was like Alright I never got called back
Come to find out
Some
Nobody
Named Nick Cannon
Came and got the role for me
It's what drum line
Yeah I'm talking about drum line
So
So after that right
Me and Nick talk about it all the time
It's one of my
Okay hold on You went too fast with this story.
Hold on.
Flipped on you.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
We don't have so much time.
We got to go somewhere.
We got to.
You said that the director.
Yeah.
Told you to read.
Well, it was the producer.
His name was Dallas Austin.
Dallas Austin.
And you went and it was drum line.
It wasn't drum line as we know it now.
It was drum line before it came out.
You dig what I'm saying?
There's a difference.
You feel me?
But even still, you know, because of the reputation of Dallas Austin,
I took it very seriously.
And I, you know, read for it.
Went, prepared.
And, you know, they fought with me.
They liked me.
But they was just like, can't you play the drums, nigga?
And I was like, nah.
But I can pretend to play the drums on camera.
Yeah, Nick learned how to play the drums.
Nick wanted it way more than I did.
But that led to Drumline Came Out became a phenomenal, historical, legendary piece.
Yes.
And Nick Cannon was the person for that role, by the way.
Because he showed the commitment.
He showed the dedication.
But when I started seeing Dallas in the studio,
I was like, hey, nigga, next time, bro.
I ain't reading for no more role.
He was like, nah, I got another one coming up, man.
You got it.
I'm telling you.
It's you.
And that role was Rashad in ATL.
Wow. You know what I mean
So and then I always
You didn't have to read for it
I didn't have to read for it
How old were you at the time
I was 23
Oh so
Damn
I was 23
And then
Me and Nick
We you know
When we see each other
He always say
Shit
If you'd have got that role
I would have got ATL I said you'd have got that role I would have got A.T.A.
I said you'd have
Fucked that one up
Now we all
Google
Can you
Can you
Read how many movies
He did
Has
Come on
Cause we done
Googled him
And his
Your movie
Is crazy
Right
But let's get back to that
Once he pulls it up
Yeah
We see Get Out
Yep
Is this inspired by Get Out?
Because we don't see too many black horror movies, right?
Yeah.
No, you don't, man.
You know what?
I wouldn't say inspired by Get Out.
I was making horror films before Jordan was making horror films.
Really?
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm into this.
I've been at this for a while, man.
My first film was a horror film called 75.
And I followed that up with a movie called Chain Letter.
Then I had a whole anthology horror series 14 years ago before anthology was cool.
That was called Night Tales.
So I've been at this for a while, man.
So going back to horror was pretty cool.
But I chose horror early on because that genre,
the one great thing about it is you don't need a star in your movie.
So where people are trying to make you- You should sit on all these niggas just now, right?
I'm just fucking with you.
Well, that's actually funny, right?
It's actually really funny.
No, but when you jump into horror, what's really cool is if you don't have a budget
or you don't have the real type of money that you need for a real film, horror is incredible
based on the fact that you don't know who Jason is or Michael Myers is or Freddy Krueger
is, right?
So you can get a group of dope actors and then just find a monster or a thing that could
be in that film that could allow it to work internationally and domestically.
So, yeah.
Damn, 15 moves.
Goddamn, you out here.
Okay, yes.
Yeah.
Does he have to take a shot?
Yeah, he's got to take
a initiation shot.
No, no, no, no.
I feel like...
What are you drinking?
What are you drinking?
This is all I need right here.
Cranberry juice.
You got to take a long swig
of the cranberry juice.
No, we got to take a shot
for fear.
Oh, that's right.
For fear.
But you know what I loved
about the film is
they all sit around
this bonfire, right?
Yep.
That's what it's called?
That's right.
Bonfire?
That's right.
You ever sat around
a bonfire?
Nah.
I tried to set it up.
I live on the beach.
It didn't work out for me.
Right, right.
I live on the beach.
I was like,
the absolutely black and Latino came out of me. It was like, I lived on the beach, you know, so I tried to, I was like, I was like, the absolutely
black and Latino came out of me.
It was like, I have a lot of white friends now.
They should have been there that day.
Diego should have been there that day.
Help me out.
Where was you at?
But anyway, they sit around a bonfire, right?
And then they all say their fears.
Yep.
And ironically, it seems like all of their fears came and haunted them.
Whatever what they said, for instance, one, I don't want to say who, a person said that they were scared of the police because they had got pulled over.
Yeah.
Right?
And then when, ironically, when he passes away, it's something to do with that, or at least he visualized that.
That's right. So is that the premises of
this is the reason why it's fair?
Because he's writing the book of...
Ron.
Ron.
I thought it was Ron.
Ron with an M.
Okay, Ron is writing the book.
And at first you're thinking this is,
I'm going to be honest,
you're thinking this is a crazy white guy
who brings his black friends away.
That's what it's supposed to do
You're supposed to feel that right
Like you felt it right
Yes
Okay
That's the movie
That's actually how
It's supposed to
You're actually supposed
To feel that way
But no
What the movie is about is
The fear is about the mind
Right
The manifestation of the mind The most powerful thing On the planet is about the mind. Right. The manifestation of the mind.
The most powerful thing
on the planet Earth
is the human mind.
Mm-hmm.
Whatever it can conjure up
or create
is the scariest thing
that you could actually see.
Right.
So what the movie deals with
is the power of manifestation.
Mm-hmm.
So the idea is
someone like yourself right now
with this incredible show
that we're all on.
God damn it.
You manifested this. Yes, I did. Right? So you've seen show that we're all on. God damn it. You manifested this.
Yes, I did.
Right?
So you've seen this.
This was a vision.
Now we can actually see it in a physical form.
Right?
But however many years ago when you first started this, you had to actually see this and pitch this to someone.
And then they had to be like, well, what happens?
And then you do what?
And then there's alcohol.
On paper, this is terrible.
Right?
This is terrible on paper.
So at the end of the day, what the movie deals with is exactly that.
What I believe is you can either manifest something absolutely brilliant and incredible for your life,
where you can fly and be able to do the things you want to do,
or you can be that person that manifests darkness and ugliness and become nothing or die.
So that's what the mind has the power to do.
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In your mind, and you push out, that's what you'll get.
So if you're like, oh man, they don't like me, I'm never going to get that part.
I'd never be in that film.
I would never be able to build that company.
Then that's exactly what the results would be.
So what the movie deals with is the energy
around the subconscious and how it works.
So when they are around that fire
and they're all speaking to each other
about what that is,
the idea about the lodge
and what the whole energy is about is,
can you,
if that fear approaches you,
can you actually defeat it?
Now, Lou's character,
Lou was the only one
that said something
that really wasn't spooky.
He said that he didn't want
people to trust him.
Right.
But then ironically...
Can't give it away.
Okay.
Can't give it away.
But it's funny because we talked about... I'm into the movie. You were telling me I'm into the movie, right? But then ironically Can't give it away Okay Can't give it away But But
It's funny
Because we talked about
I'm into the movie
You were telling me
I'm into the movie
You were on point
Because that's exactly right
Because
His character basically
Was like
His biggest fear
Is for people
Not to trust him
Right
Especially those
That actually
Are his family
Right
He said that
Which is a big deal
Right
So at the end of the day
That was a very
Complicated fear To have in the film Because you gotta figure Okay well How would that Right, he said that Which is a big deal, right? So at the end of the day That was a very complicated fear
To have in the film
Because you gotta figure out
Okay, well
How would that bother him?
Until you see the movie go downhill
Exactly
Oh, wait
If you understand the film
And you watch it like you do
Right
Everybody actually domino effects
On top of each other
Yes
Right?
So his fear actually affects him
Right
Right?
Oh, it does Damn, I forgot that And then his fear Right? And then fear actually affects him Right Right Oh, it does
Damn, I forgot that
His fear, right
His fear affects him
Right
Right, so it just continuously happens
Until someone actually has the audacity
Or the mental capacity to stop it
Right
Now, all this
Binge watching, right
Yeah, yeah
Binge watching is a great thing
Because
I mean, i remember uh you
know coming home to martin coming home to video music box coming home to 106 and park and doing
that but then me actually having a life and me not being able to do that ever again yeah and me
saying okay whenever it comes on netflix or whenever it comes on youtube or whatever yeah
what made you say that, you know what?
Let's make these people go back to the theaters.
And the fact that you made it during COVID,
what made you pick that?
Man, it's a lot, man.
I just love the theatrical experience.
I've personally never had a streaming movie.
Nothing I've ever made has been the streaming.
We've been really blessed, man, independently
To make movies that, I believe
Work really well in the theater, and they have
Me and Joseph with The Intruder
Fatale, Black and Blue
Oh, Intruder
Yeah, even as small as
That's when you the foul
You the foul
Yeah, I remember that
Even as small as
I got mine
Yeah, Meet the Blacks
Which was a very small movie
You know, we had a
Giant theatrical run
That's what Michael Black's
Man
Yeah, Blacks and Epps
And Duvall
The whole team over there
Man, but yeah
I was in that one too
Wait, that was Gary
That was Gary Owen
You know what I'm saying
Shout out to Gary, man
Yeah, yeah
But no, yeah So I always just I feel like the theatrical Experience is where it Shout out to Gary, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, yeah, so I always just,
I feel like the theatrical experience
is where it's at right now, man.
Right.
But why the movie was made is,
what you guys were talking about earlier,
which was we was in a moment in time, man,
where we didn't know what tomorrow would bring.
Right.
And as an artist, man, I felt like part of our job,
just like you as an artist,
is to create art that reflects the time that we live in.
Right.
And at that moment, man, no one was able to actually paint.
And I was like, man, I bet I could paint.
And you know what's dope?
The fact that y'all like, I don't know if there was a disease y'all created or was y'all trying to say that this was COVID.
Right.
Like I couldn't tell
at that moment
when the newsflash was going.
Yeah.
It's crazy right there.
And then there's one point
that was like,
everyone stay in.
You can't go nowhere.
And everyone's in the house
debating like,
what should we do?
Can we open the windows?
Yeah.
And it's like,
so you don't know
if this is COVID or not.
It's where we was at, man.
Look, I was saying this
the other night.
During the pandemic, during the global pandemic,
when everything shut down,
now we got a whole bunch of people that's tough.
Now everybody, I wouldn't do that, I wouldn't do this.
But there was a moment in time.
Yeah.
There was a moment in time
when you looked at your kids or your wife or your family
or whoever, and you was like,
damn, I don't know what this is out here.
You know what I mean?
And that's where we wanted to be in the film.
We wanted to be in a place to where the mind actually plays jokes
and games with you, right?
And the prime example of that, which is funny, is along this time,
and some people pick this up now and they still have this problem.
You feel something in your chest, or you feel like you got a cough,
and then immediately you go to your phone.
Next thing you know, an hour later
you got cancer. You're like, damn, I got
all them symptoms. You know what I mean?
So, a little bit of that energy is
a little bit of that energy is what the
movie deals with, which is, and that's
what his character actually plays with a lot in the film
too. Except for Atlanta.
And Florida. And Florida.
No, chill. Let me just be clear
Florida closed down
For two months
And then it was like
Fuck this
Atlanta's outside
But Atlanta closed down
For two hours
Man remember that
Atlanta was going crazy
Maybe two weeks
Maybe two weeks
Wait how
Florida closed down
For two months right
Florida closed down
Then it opened back up right
Yeah yeah
But it was different
Skirts of Florida
But Miami was cautious for
like two months. The clubs in Atlanta never
released. Atlanta never.
This is the week
of the movie. This comes out. Wait, because what
day the movie comes out? The 27th?
And we're going to drop this
Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.
This is the same week.
Yeah.
You good.
The film comes out Let's sell this motherfucker
The film comes out Thursday
At 5pm
And this comes out
At 10pm
That's good
Thursday
So
Overvolt TV
And then Friday Audio
And then Saturday YouTube
We keep talking about
You know
It's a great fucking movie man
I've seen
So I've seen
I'm going to take a shot for that man
Come on
Take your last shot
Take your last shot Take your last shot
Wait man
T.I. over there
Don't worry
You can skip this one
So I was doing my
My drink champs research
Before I came
Yo
Khaled
Khaled has so many like quotes
So I'm going to make sure
I drop some quotes
You got to drop some quotes
Yo Having greatness Takes patience Khaled has so many quotes, so I'm going to make sure I drop some quotes. You got to drop some quotes.
Yo, having greatness takes patience.
If you want to be great, you got to be willing to wait.
That's deep.
I'm going to tell you about this film right here.
Think about this. We shot this movie three years ago during the pandemic.
I've seen three versions of this movie, right?
Yeah.
The third version I saw of this movie was so good.
I called D and I was like, bro, put this version of the movie out.
You want to bootleg it?
It was like, you know, like the pandemic.
I wanted to put it in.
I was like, it's ready pandemic I wanted to put it I was like
It's ready now
Let's throw it out
Right
One thing I learned from D
He was like
I just don't feel
Like it's there
He went
Higher
How many editors
I mean it's been a lot
Of different edits
Of this movie
Cause what's that shit
The short version
Quibi
You ain't know
Oh yeah I remember that
Yeah Quibi
Quibi it lasts like
Like
Six Six They gone now I was ready to sell Some remember that Quibi, it lasts like Six months
I was ready to sell some shit to Quibi
You know how much money people got?
Yeah
So D just had the patience
To wait for the right time
The right weekend
Everything's in the right place
And put together a complete new film
Right?
That speaks to where we are right now.
And that is unprecedented, right?
And so everybody, like, you got to think,
like, there's millions of, there's no studio.
It's not like Sony, Warner Brothers, you know,
one of these, it had just put the money up
and we're just all out here moving.
Everybody, we got real money in the game, right?
So there's six figures out of my bank account making sure that this works.
Dion has hundreds of thousands of dollars, not millions of dollars of his own money invested in it, right?
So when we talk about fear, a lot of people, as we operate through life, have fear in taking themselves, taking their career to the next level,
right? They have something that they aspire to do, but they have the fear that might hold them back
from going there. And so the one thing that I want people to know from the aspect of the stuff
that happens on camera and what happens behind the scenes is that if you want to do great things in life, you have to be willing to bypass that fear and just go out of it.
All of us 100 years from now will be dead.
This is it, right?
Hey, speak for yourself.
CI has crypto technology and we'll be frozen in an ice cap.
You don't know what the fuck is going to happen tomorrow.
You hear me?
Hey, bro.
The time we have now is the time we have now.
And this movie, Fear, for all of these different characters going through all of these different journeys,
is if they could just overcome the fear, they might be able to move.
I don't want to speak too much.
You know what I'm saying? But you got to be willing to see overcome the fear, they might be able to move. I don't want to speak too much. You know what I'm saying?
But you got to be willing to see past the fear.
Another thing I would say is every storm runs out of rain.
You feel me?
Hey, I'll drop it.
So where this film is a deep character.
I'm going to do what I'm best at.
Every storm runs out of range
I went through
One of the hardest
I went through
A really tough time
About a year ago
Went down
To Atlanta
And went to visit Tip
He looked at me
He said
Don't let a moment
Take over the movement
Yeah
I got that from J Prince
I didn't
J Prince said it right
I can't
You know
What's this tough time?
Are we talking about
your process of moving
out of L.A.?
We talking about that time?
Yeah, yeah.
You want to tell the people?
Like, because...
Let's talk about it a little bit.
Yeah, I mean...
Tell them why you moved
out of L.A.
You know, that was
very touching to me.
I met with you at Bell Harbor,
I believe.
I don't know if you remember.
Mm.
And I was like, yo, you know,
and you was like, yo, man,
I'm thinking about moving out here. And I was like, you, you know, and you was like, yo, man, I'm thinking about moving out here.
And I was like, you know, that's one of the greatest decisions I've ever made.
That the first year I moved out here, the first year I moved out here, no one should have been around me.
It was just not great.
But then after that, I started to realize, oh, shit, you know, there's different parts of Miami or whatever whatever so uh but then it's so many
because because LA is right now known as the rapper murder capital of the world right now it's crazy
because you you're a host but in this world at least this is how it's depicted, you're looked at like me and T.I.
Like there's no difference between,
even though me and T.I. look at you like a civilian,
we say Terrence J is a civilian.
No one can not like Terrence J.
But still, you're subjected to the same thing
that me and T.I. is.
If you could describe what you want to describe,
the part of it, of what's going on in L.A. for. And if you could describe what you want to describe, the part of it,
of what's going on in L.A. for people that don't understand.
Well, more so than what's going on in L.A.,
your decision.
Right.
What made you make your decision?
Right.
I never talked,
I haven't talked about this.
Right.
There was an attempted robbery.
Right.
Coming home from a restaurant.
Right.
Nice restaurant.
Guys, yeah, very nice restaurant.
Yeah.
Not McDonald's.
Yeah, attempted carjacking, right?
I was able to get away.
And then I had, yeah, you know, I had decisions to make, right?
When I moved to L.A., like, I remember moving to L.A. and going to a house party, and it changed my life, right?
And I felt like, oh, man, like, I got an invite, and I'm at a Puff Daddy party, and you feel the vibe, and it inspired me so much. And so for me, you know, for about a five year span, my house was one of those spots in L.A. Open to everybody.
My door would be unlocked.
Wow.
And it would be.
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Artists, new artists, gangsters, you know, aspiring actors, aspiring models,
somebody that just moved from Kansas in the same party with, you know, with Tip, right?
It would be athletes, all of that.
Like, I just had an open-door policy.
I would feed people, you know what I'm saying?
And so when it happened to me,
when they tried to, in front of, you know, at my crib,
it was, I took it very personally
because I've always tried to like you know what
i mean i've always been switzerland you come to my house if you have beef and you want to squash it
you know what i'm saying for those that don't know switzerland has beef with nobody and nobody
kind of has beef with switzerland right so uh you know you know zurich is one of my favorite places
on the planet continue continue because i want uh I want, you know, I'm sorry,
because I know you told me this.
I don't know if it was secrecy or not,
but your story is so important
because we mainly think that it only happens to rappers
or it only happens to people
who attract that type of lifestyle,
who say, yo, you know, I'm holding this,
I'm doing this, I'm doing this I'm doing this
And really
It's happening to anybody
In entertainment
This is the reason
Why your story
Is so important
And I hope you continue
To finish
What you were saying
I'm sorry
You know
Yeah so
It was painful
And especially because
They looked like me
Right
Right
And I'm
I'm the national ambassador for
the Thurgood Marshall College Fund right I'm a black college HBCU like I love us
right so like to experience that was it was traumatic for a lot of different
reasons right right but with all that said I never wanted to feel like some
you know I'm getting moved out of my I gotta move, leave the city
but I felt like I wanted to refresh the energy
I felt like it was time
to refresh the energy and I had a conversation
with Tip and he was like listen
you gotta keep the energy going
and so I moved from
LA
I bought
some real estate but then I bought some more real estate and then I bought some more real estate,
and then I bought some more real estate.
God damn it.
And then, like, in the thought of it, like, just wanting to feel comfortable,
I probably done 10, 15, about, like, $13 million worth of real estate
over the past 12-month cycle.
God damn it.
Make some noise.
Relax.
God damn it.
Make some noise.
Relax.
And so what I say is, like, you know, well, first of all, for us, we got to be vigilant.
It don't matter whether, you know, I just came off the Oscars and got, you know what I'm saying?
So it's like all of anybody could be a target.
We have to be vigilant.
We have to, you know, I continue to promote education for young people. Like, the fact that there was young people that looked like me makes me want to do more to help young men
so that it doesn't continue, you know what I'm saying?
Is this something you thought that you could have avoided,
this situation, or this was a situation
that was going to follow anybody walking out that restaurant?
Mine specifically was they followed me
when I was coming from the valet.
And so now the police have now told, you know, that.
Was it a nice car?
Yeah.
You know, that they were scouting from the restaurant and doing the drive home.
Yeah.
But again, you know, I don't want to talk too much about that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't have to.
My takeaway is that, like, you know, having fear in life, and that's what the premise
of this movie is, right?
That's right.
It's like nobody.
I like how you brought it back to fear.
This nigga's good.
This nigga's good, man.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Being shot at is the scariest shit you could
ever go through, right? Especially when you don't have a gun.
When you don't have a gun and you're being shot at,
there's nothing scarier, right?
Wait, I didn't know. I forgot that part.
They actually shot at you?
And this is in front of your house?
This is right down the road once I'm in the car.
Wow.
So what you have to then do.
God bless you.
Thank you.
What you have to then do is you have to assess who you are in life.
And do you let situations take you down?
Do you let situations take you off your path?
Do you let situations deter you from going after what your dreams are?
And so for me, I was able to take a very traumatic experience, right?
And then say, okay, well, now that I got to move, I'm going to start buying some real estate.
I'm going to start.
And now I've turned it into a complete new business for me.
I have a complete new business under because I talk to my friends, you know?
Right.
And so it's like,
it's taking the traumatic experience from life
and using them as a stepping stone,
using them as a guiding post
to get yourself to where you need to be.
Right.
What's evil meant for bad?
God used for good.
Because, you know,
Jim Jones said it the other day.
He said, being a rapper is the most dangerous job on earth.
And a lot of people from the military, they took it personal.
And I understood why the military took it personal because we understand that.
But even in the military, you kind of know who your enemy is when you go on that field.
They have the opposite of the uniform.
Being an entertainer, we don't know who the fuck.
Like, I watched the Selena movie the other day, and her assistant killed her.
Dang.
You know what I mean?
It's like, then I watched the interview with Baby.
He said, forget hate.
We got to watch envy.
He said, envy comes from within.
That's true.
Sometimes you have people around you who are just envious of you
just because y'all had the same fifth grade teacher.
You had the same third grade teacher.
You had the same seventh grade teacher.
And you're living how you is but you didn't change
right you just still want to hang with this particular person this particular person is
looking at you like fuck no why has he got a better haircut than me no you're right that's
real i think but it's dumb shit like that i think that's where the the rap energy comes from though
because if you think about it most most
artists that come from the inner city that actually find success at music right they still
living within the same walls that everybody else is in right right so and they don't a lot of times
don't know how to actually leave that environment because that's where the palette is for the art
right so if you in memphis or you in chicago or you in miami and then all of a sudden i was just with you and we was poor we was in Chicago or you in Miami and then all of a sudden I was
just with you and we was poor, we was hitting licks,
we was doing whatever and all of a sudden your music take off
and now you got all this, you got
all that, you got a fan base and we still sitting
in this same environment.
Envious and jealousy
will be the thing that actually assassinates
you. So that's why we see all the artists. Now if you're
the military, you're absolutely right.
If I'm the military, I know, okay, I'm finna do this,
sign up, and I'm gonna sit right here and wait for that to happen.
I know my insurgents. I know how they look. I know what
colors they got on. I know what it is. So I think
that's what is... But I would also say it's
not just rappers. It's anybody successful
in the hood. But you know, that's another thing
that I felt interested
about the movie was there was
no, like, street people other than Lou.
Sorry. You took the street role, P.O.
We were all from the same place.
Everybody else had something going on.
Lou, I don't know what Lou was.
Lou was from the hood.
He was an entrepreneur. He was an
independent entrepreneur.
Everybody else had, you know,
something. But that was dope for me to see that.
Like, you know, they're going outside.
Did you ever actually propose or no?
Well, let's not do that.
Okay.
Let's not do that.
Let's not do that.
Let's not do that.
Because that was the funniest shit is when they sat around.
Hey, man, come on.
Oh, yeah.
Let me relax.
You're doing a lot.
No, let me relax.
Let's take a shot of me doing a lot.
But by the way, man, let me really, you know, look all for you brothers face-to-face, eye-to-eye.
I'll tell you, I truly enjoyed the movie.
I truly watched.
I wanted to critique it, good, bad, in between, whatever.
And it's a dope movie, man.
It's a dope movie.
I enjoyed it.
I thought it was unique.
I thought I haven't seen no movie like it.
And I thought
what y'all did, and now,
knowing that you guys came together,
and so I'm guessing
y'all had a table read or approved the script
or some type of shit.
No.
No.
No, but let me.
No.
They didn't believe you that much.
Bird dad showed up.
Bird dad shot.
That's right.
Let me speak on that for a minute.
Just for one second.
I know we're going to get out of here in a minute.
Yeah, yeah.
Cool.
But no, these guys all trusted me as a filmmaker and a writer,
and I actually wrote the script while we were shooting.
Because you filmed the episode of Power War 2, right?
I shot the finale.
I've never read an entire
script. I know that.
I've never read an entire script.
But part of being in this art form is
understanding who the talent is and who
you're working with. Like, I know what Tip's going to read
and I know what Tip ain't going to read. I also know
in the scene
when he's going to be like, hey man, what is this right here? Because he ain't going to read. I also know in the scene when he going to be like, hey, man, what is this right here?
Because he ain't seen it yet.
You know what I mean?
So you have to also be prepared for that.
But outside of the movie, I just wanted to say something,
which I think is super dynamic, man.
A lot of people have these conversations about, like,
what we could do as a community and how we could move
with black excellence and all this stuff.
And obviously everybody individually in here
has been successful.
Right.
That's what's dope about it.
That's what's really cool, man.
But the reality is what happens a lot of times, man, with us as black and brown people is
we don't never unify and do nothing together.
You might find one or two people that might be like, yo, I'm going to do something with
him.
But normally when we talk about big, this is why we don't own no NBA teams.
We don't own no NFL teams.
We don't own no NBA teams. We don't own no NFL teams. We don't own nothing, right?
But the movie space is just like that, which is there's not a black person in Hollywood
that can green light a movie and put it out theatrically worldwide, period.
Tyler Perry.
Tyler Perry, but Tyler Perry is now.
Well, that's your one, the exception.
Okay, the exception, okay.
We'll keep right here on this lane.
But what I wanted to say is what I think is really unique, man,
is the fact that we were able to all do this movie together.
Right.
From the top to the bottom.
So from the creative to everybody getting involved,
from guys wanting to put their money in and invest with me as a black filmmaker
and my wife who's a producer and make this whole thing just come to life.
And now to be able to take it out theatrically by ourselves as well.
That's also fire.
So this is the third, fourth time we've done this now,
taking a film out worldwide theatrical by ourself.
So we have been competing with studios for the last seven, eight years.
So just to know that we're doing that on this level but with our brothers
is something really special.
And I hope that people actually take the time to understand that part of it.
Just talking about race, can I say something about race?
Because I always steal credit of it, but now that I've had some shots.
But just racially, I think that because it's still so taboo to talk about black and white and talk about race with people of different colors here.
And I got to give shouts out to 50 Cent because because he said what people forget about diversity usually is diversity um and in this film it's black people and white
people and mixed race people and it's not for any reason they're just there and i love that about it
it's not like this this this this guy's this because he's black or this guy's this because
he's white it's just we're just there And I think that that's actually a huge advancement
in a cult and cultural amalgamation.
Can we pick up the females that's in here?
Yes.
Because your female character is awesome.
Your female character, great lick of the leg.
Jessica Lange.
Yeah, great lick.
Can we say their names?
Who would have licked that leg?
Who would have licked that leg?
No, Jessica.
And Jessica Lange. Jessica Lange. Jessica and Lady. And Jessica Lane. Jessica Lane.
Jessica Lane.
But he licked Jessica Lane's leg.
Yeah, he definitely did.
Oh, you asked me, you told me to do it.
Allegedly.
Allegedly.
Whoa.
Guys, no, no, no, no, no.
Accusation.
Deion's like, get more into it.
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or wherever you get your podcasts. They didn't know that you was coming, but we're going to mail you your flowers, and that's real shit. This is Drink Champs literally giving us our flowers.
That's right.
They told us an hour before you was coming.
We did not know, but we're going to mail you your flowers.
They like all our flowers.
They like all our flowers.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
Don't got it.
Snoop Dogg said it's like getting a Grammy because it's from your own people.
This is you.
This is you. This is you. This is you. This is you.
This is you.
This is you.
This is you, Grammy, man.
And I'm going to be honest, brothers, man.
All of y'all got luxurious careers, you know, individually.
It's so dope to see y'all come together.
I didn't know this until I obviously had to research it.
But it's dope to see people come together for a common cause and make it work.
That's right.
Like, I literally saw this movie is dope.
And it's going to work.
And everyone go out there and see it.
It's dope.
And now you got the back story.
Now you got the story of how these brothers came together and said, let's do something.
And especially during the pandemic.
That's so important for people to know that y'all was still working, that y'all was still ambitious.
Y'all was still hustling.
Y'all was still vigorous.
Y'all was still, I'm trying to use big words.
Y'all was still enthusiastic.
You know what I mean?
You know, that's the biggest I go.
You know what I mean?
And y'all was still doing it.
Y'all was still working.
So what is something that you want to tell the people about this movie?
If,
um,
and damn,
I got another shot and nobody else don't got one.
Again,
just give me one of Terrence and I'm with you.
Okay.
Okay.
But I'm gonna take another one day.
I'm gonna take it for the movie though.
Look,
the days of,
of reaching up for help are over.
Reach across,
work with your friends,
work with the people that you love.
You want to build a business?
You want to build a corporation?
You want to build a company?
You want to build your future?
Work with your people.
Don't wait for nobody to reach down
and give you the opportunity.
Work with the people that's beside you
that's making it out the mud,
like we did for this project.
I mean, we're not out the mud, but we all work together and we build something that's making it out the mud. Like we did for this project. I mean, we're not out the mud, but we all
work together and we build something
that's beautiful.
And very money.
Work with your family.
I think not enough can
be said about this gentleman's
vision.
His vision, his tenacity,
and his ability
to execute.
You know what I mean?
Also, coupled with his relationships,
he got all of us to go do some shit
none of us was planning on doing.
You feel me?
In the haunted house.
Yeah.
Haunted.
It was really a resort.
It was a haunted resort.
And that lady is creepy as a motherfucker.
Great, man. Great was a haunted resort. And that lady is creepy as a motherfucker. Great, man.
Great job.
Great job.
Great casting.
It wasn't none of us, and it wasn't no goddamn five-star accommodations like you.
Your place was that little spot you have.
I think when you compare it to your spot.
That's a fact.
That's a fact.
That's a fact.
What did he say?
He said, this is not the full season.
This is just fall.
Hey, stop, stop, stop.
You can't do that.
You got the whole movie, man.
You can't do that.
I told y'all I'm into this.
We got to do a movie with this, man.
That was Batch.
That was Batch.
Let's give love to Batch, Batch.
That was improv.
Yo.
Oh, he improv'd that?
Yeah, improv.
Let me say this before we get out of here.
Because you just said something earlier,
and I want to just, before we leave the show,
I want to make sure we recognize this.
Here's why you're incredible and this show is incredible,
and this is incredible.
Yeah.
Because a long time ago,
there was never a platform for this story to be told.
Right.
So that's why it's important for you to exist right now.
Right, thank you.
Because a movie would go out,
they would do what they needed to do
to make sure people knew what that movie was,
but when our things come out,
no one would know the backstory.
Right.
And now, to date,
the only people that know the story
about how this movie got put together
is Nori and Drink Tip.
Yes, yes, yes! the story about how this movie got put together is Nori and Drink Champs. I don't think it's... Listen, I'm not trying to trick y'all. I don't think there's nothing
else to do but to take a shot.
Hold up, hold up, because I didn't get to say my thing. And you can cut this out, I
don't mind.
No, we ain't cutting this out.
Can I bring my brother in here, Alvin?
Yes, your brother.
He's the biggest Drink Champs fan ever. Let's go.
Alvin.
Alvin.
A-L-B-I-N.
Alvin.
No, no, no.
Take your shot.
We're going to give Alvin his own shot.
I dare you.
No, no, no.
How did you see that?
Alvin deserves his own shot.
Alvin has seen every single.
Let's give Alvin.
What kind of shot do you want, Alvin?
Whatever this is.
All right.
Noriega.
Noriega.
He has seen every single episode of Drink Champs from the beginning.
He's my friend.
In my mind, he's my friend.
God damn it.
Even though Joseph chose Tribe Called Quest,
I thought a KRS-One with that sex me and do me,
I'd rather listen to Brand Nubian.
Salim. Salim. Listen, guys. one with that sex me and do me I'd rather listen to brand new being. Solomon.
Listen guys.
Listen guys may you guys never have no
fear but y'all go out there and y'all
go see fear and have that fear for
I think it's an hour and 37 minutes
somewhere around that. Mark.
You know.
Okay.
I watched it. It's such a great movie
It's a twister
Even though everything you think that I said here
Is so much other shit
That's gonna happen
That it's like, you know
It's a real dope movie
To see these brothers come together
That's why I wanted to big up the sisters as well
That's right
Because it's just not just
Brothers getting together
It was
Them girls did a great job, man.
They did a great job.
The girl that was scratching her whole shit.
Ruby Modine.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's such a dope, man.
Yo, congratulations to you brothers.
Thank you, man.
Because I honestly did not know the story.
I just thought this was, you know, Fox Theater is giving y'all money,
and y'all just spending money here just out in Miami just saying whatever.
You know what I mean?
That ain't it.
I saw the movie, and I'm like, oh, shit, this is dope.
Every woman was a woman of color in this film.
I didn't think of that until now.
Every woman in the film is a woman of color.
Wow.
Including Roxanne, who produced the movie as a black woman.
That's right.
I'm glad you brought up that black woman I mean it was super dope
man to see it and
I want to say congratulations to each and every one of y'all
I want to say thank y'all for coming to Drink Champs
as the co-host I would like
to say thank you
to the writer and the director and the producer.
Thank you to my other producing partners and my other co-stars in the film.
Thank you to the people who aren't here.
Thank you to the crew, you know, to the other financiers that are behind the scenes.
Thank you to everybody that made this a possibility and a reality.
Everybody came together.
Everybody kind of stepped out on faith.
We believed in his vision.
Yep.
And he's executed and brought it into fruition.
You know, absolutely, in a way that none of us could have envisioned.
So I'm just proud, honored, and it's a pleasure to be a part of it.
Thank you for allowing me the opportunity.
I appreciate it.
Yes.
My brother.
Yes.
Love.
Appreciate you.
One thing is so dope.
One thing, let me say this before I get out of here.
One thing that's so dope is the respect
that I see that each and every individual has.
How, as a
director, can you maintain these relationships with actors slash artists slash rappers? How do
you maintain these relationships? They're real relationships. Okay. A lot of time, Hollywood
entertainment is built on fake. Nothing is real. I come from a very authentic place. So if I pull
you in, it's because I really like you.
Right.
And I know that I'd rather work with people that I love,
that are friends, more so than anybody else
that might be 50 times bigger than anybody at this table.
Right.
Just because I know I'm going to do it over and over again with them.
So this is real relationships.
Outside of a film, I'm hitting them and screaming and yelling,
like, yo, what you doing over here?
There's just a whole thing.
So authenticity is what we need right now in the world,
and this is what this table represents.
Beautiful.
Fake love is worse than real hate.
I'm going to just say that as another little euphemism to throw at you.
You've been dropping all these slogans.
As a seasoned 20-year host, watching what Nori does right now,
yo, it's really impressive.
First of all, 95% of the shows I've hosted, there's a teleprompter.
So there's no prompter back here.
You're doing all of this.
Doing research off your phone.
I know there's a little bit of phone, but that's the scary thing
because it's not really involved.
Yo, you killing this shit.
Thank you.
You're killing this shit.
Honestly, I'm really a. You know, you're killing this shit. No, but honestly,
honestly,
I'm really a fan
of all of you brothers,
but to see y'all brothers
come together,
I didn't know that
until just now.
So it just made it
more interesting
because it's like,
all right, cool.
One thing that we don't have
or one thing that we lack of
is ego.
Yep.
Ego is like,
if, like,
you know,
one of the,
I don't know what to say, but
ego is a fucked up thing
and it's also
a dope thing too.
So you have to know how to be a seesaw
in the ego thing.
Keep going on it. This guy right here
like currently and for like the past,
what is it, nine, ten,
nine years?
It'll be ten years
in some time.
Ten years,
has had one of the biggest
television shows,
actors in the world.
Two of them though.
Like no, multiple.
Ozone.
We're not even counting.
Multiple, right?
And then you're talking about
one of the fucking,
the pillars of the industry. Yes, he is. King bitch. Yes, he is. That's the mountain pillars of the industry.
King, bitch.
Yes, he is.
That's the mountain.
Mount Rushmore.
That's it.
Neither one of these guys came to set any day with ego.
It was never like, yo, bro, by the way, I'm actually in between power.
It was never ego with Joseph once.
Tip never came on set like, yo, guys, I'm ego with y'all.
You did not ego us.
I'm not going to let you do that.
I'm not going to let you make a joke out of me.
Me and my wife kicked you and King Betcha ass in spades.
Oh.
I shut up in your partner.
Damn, she.
Nah, nah.
There was a lot of controversy that day.
There was a lot of controversy that day. I executed.
I distributed a great deal of ego that day.
I'm up for the next round of that.
I will say.
Let's ask a lifelong question.
Is Spades a black game?
Oh.
Or is it universal?
Let's bring it to you.
I'm going to go universal. Let's bring it to you. I'm going to go universal.
I don't think there's anything else. Let's have a shot.
I don't know. If you don't play with jokers,
then you have to question.
Hey, you know what's fucked up?
Oh, thank you.
I went to go see Trick Daddy.
These niggas had the most fucked up rules I ever seen.
Jokers didn't count.
Aces didn't count.
It was just like kings and jokers.
The ace of spades didn't count?
I'm in my mind.
I might be fucking this story up.
In my mind, but it was something fucked up like that.
Was it Ace of Spades?
I don't even remember.
But I remember I said, these soft niggas are trying to get me.
And I sat there and I said, I learned.
It took me two hands.
And then I discovered.
And I got the hand and I whipped him.
Played a win.
I played the way to win.
And guess what?
Classic, I don't want to call this New York shit, but classic
me shit.
Soon as I won,
I quit.
Oh, good thing you weren't playing dice
in New York. No, no, no.
No, this is space. Soon as I won,
three hands in a row, I said,
okay, fellas, that is it for me.
And I jumped up like,
you know how you win in Vegas
and you know you're not
going to keep winning.
Thank you.
Yeah, yeah.
Are we taking a shot for that?
Yeah, definitely.
Yes.
For fear.
For fear.
For fear.
Great fucking movie.
Great fucking cast.
In theater,
January 27th.
Yeah.
Great cast.
Yes.
I'm so glad. And I'm so glad
and I'm so happy that
people can explain that
brothers can come together and make a movie on
their own because for the most part
this is independent because y'all are the independent
company. Not for the most part.
In total.
It's as rare because it's even hard
to say. Even when I was
doing The Intruder, I didn't understand the whole process.
Another shout out to Omar Joseph.
But Dion, this is independent in completion.
Hidden Empire Films is getting this into theaters.
Not Sony, not anybody else, no big names.
Just them.
Every film we've made is an independent movie.
That means we put up our own money and make the film
completely.
And own the film.
And didn't you have
Beef with Ghazi
at one point?
With who?
Ghazi,
Empire Records.
Me?
Yeah.
I don't even know
who that is.
Nah,
nah,
nah.
I'm speaking for him.
He ain't had no beef
with Ghazi and Empire.
They just happened
to have the similar name
at the end.
So,
which brings a lot of, you know, it could be potential. This is like three of y'all, right? You, Empire Productions. Empire They just happen to have The same little name At the end So Which brings
A lot of
You know
It could be
This is like three of y'all
Right
You Empire Productions
Right
Now what you talking about
Empire
Now listen
Empire
Hit me at
What you talking about
Is Empire
The TV show
For Fox
Them and guys
That had a situation
Oh
He's hitting Empire
Hitting Empire Production Company.
They didn't even see him.
That's why you didn't gas host, god damn it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
God damn it.
That's why you didn't gas host.
That's why you didn't gas host.
That's why you didn't gas host.
That's why you didn't gas host.
You better get me caught in the twist.
You better get me caught in some shit out here.
I appreciate you.
Tip said no.
Let me get you.
The way you said it, I said, this nigga avoided it.
Tip understood exactly what I was thinking.
No, I'm being truthful.
Who is that?
Yeah, yeah.
Holy shit, come on.
Don't worry.
I'm in.
You going to skip?
This little shot right here is bothering me.
Come on.
No.
Look how little this is.
Look how little this is.
I feel like he can afford that.
No, Louis Vu.
Man, one day.
One day when the police is going to be brought back up. Can we have a shot for Terrence's watch?
Can we have a shot?
Oh, yeah.
Let's make a shot for Terrence's watch.
Salud.
There we go.
All right.
Now, you a smooth nigga, Terrence.
I ain't going to lie.
Come on.
Nah.
Come on. Yo. Come on.
Yo, yo, yo, listen.
To fear.
Oh, everybody?
And to not having fear.
This is to fear.
Okay, to fear.
To not having fear.
That's not a shot, sir.
No fear.
That is a drink.
Okay, listen.
Okay, yes.
You know, this is professional drink champs.
Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
That's also a drink.
Okay.
Let's take a shot.
Okay, you took it already?
All right.
All right, cool, cool.
Why does he keep getting
filled up?
Bro, I swear to God.
This shot has been empty.
He do it every time.
But I've never seen her.
This cup is haunted.
This show is unlike anything else.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
What you about to say to y'all?
No, no, I just wanted to know, like, what is fair?
Fear.
No, oh, fear?
Fear or fear?
F-E-A-R.
Fear, baby, that's the name of the movie that is the dopest movie.
The fear is the name of the movie.
Dopest fucking movie.
2023.
Hell yeah.
You should find out about it.
You dig what I'm saying?
Coming out. Came out last You should find out about it. You dig what I'm saying? Coming out.
Came out last Friday.
Came out Friday.
It's coming out.
No, it's coming out tonight.
Yes.
Tonight.
Local movie theaters.
You hear me?
Do we remember where these theaters are?
Everywhere.
All of them.
Everywhere.
Everywhere.
Theater near you.
So y'all not like just at 14?
Come on, bro.
Y'all like well over 1,000.
Okay.
Over 1,000?
How about try 1,800?
Oh!
Oh!
1,800 theaters.
Listen, motherfucker, shit is everywhere.
I'm renting out a theater, man.
I'm going to throw it out there.
Yo!
I'm going to throw it out there.
I'll cheer today.
I'm going to throw it out there.
Give me 10 of them.
Give me 10 of them.
10 of them.
10 of them, motherfucker.
Let's do it.
10 of them.
Oh, shit, I got another one. Yo, 10, you got another one. It's a half a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Take a shot. Let's do it. Take a shot. Oh, I got another one.
Yo, you got another one.
It's a half a shot.
Half a shot.
It's a theater out.
No.
To the theater.
To the theater.
Isn't that drink chance
funny on us, man?
Yeah, no problem.
It's a theater out.
Now, once again, fellas,
thank y'all for staying so long.
Thank y'all for coming.
Thank y'all for thinking of us.
But also, let me also thank y'all
for coming together
and showing togetherness, showing that men can come together Thank y'all for thinking of us But also Let me also thank y'all For coming together And showing
Togetherness
Showing that men
Can come together
Showing that we can
And own some shit
Cause that's basically
The premise of what we're saying
It's like alright
Let's go make a great movie
Yep
Well most of us
Make a great movie
And Lionsgate only
That's right
That's right
Fox News only
Fox
Flashlight
Whatever them niggas
Search
Search like some shit
Search like
You know what I'm talking about
When you
When you do
Warner Brothers only
Hey God
Who is my people
Piece of Warner Brothers
See we did these
We did these deals so long ago
Yeah
Like every
Like all the money's on the screen
Yeah
It's not like you
You don't When you shoot a movie like this It's not like you, you don't, when you shoot a movie like this, it's not like you come.
Yeah, word up.
You don't come to make money.
You come to invest in your future.
You come to invest in the project.
You know what I'm saying?
Dion puts all the money on the screen.
So it's not like we came, none of us came for a payday.
We came for the long haul.
Did you have trailers?
Nah, we had rooms in this haunted ass cabin
It was really haunted
Nah, real spill
Trailers?
Trailers?
No trailers
It's that independent grind I'm talking about
No trailers?
We on it,? We own it man
We own it
Yes
But we will end it on ownership
Because a lot of people
Lie about ownership
Right
The reality is
We own the film
God damn
At the end of the day
Every movie that we done made
We own it
And these guys own
I'm sorry
I need one more for ownership
And one time
That's it
One time for Dion and Roxanne
Man
Cause they are really
Dion Roxanne
Thank you Thank you, thank you.
Forever young, old.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Omar Joseph.
Let's give Omar Joseph
his flowers, too.
Okay, yeah.
Let's have an old.
Cheers.
I'm not...
Look, the last one
is for y'all.
Bruh.
It's for y'all.
You know, I've been doing
this for you for years.
Man, last motherfucking shot.
And by the way, let me big up to the Trap Cafe.
What was it?
Yeah, Trap City Cafe.
Trap City Cafe, man.
I came out there.
I won my award.
And you know what's ironic?
I just played a record that me and you got together.
And it had to be a year or two years ago, I said,
because I said, I went platinum and never won no awards.
Thank you.
Ironically, my one award that I actually won, you presented it.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
But I said that prior, so now I got to change the line.
I don't know if I got to change the line of leadership.
I don't know.
But we just played it, and that shit sound good.
You ain't even remember when you played the verse. I swear to leadership. I don't know. But we just played it and that shit sound good. You ain't even remember
when you played the verse.
I swear to God
I don't remember saying it.
But it did sound good.
It did sound good.
You killed that.
I was almost going to ask you
to film your part right there.
I'm being honest.
Amen.
You still got the best shoes
in the building.
You still got the best shoes in the building. I'm number two with the college. Hold on. One time for Queens in the building. I'm being honest You still got the best shoes in the building You still got the best shoes in the building
I'm number two with the collets
I'm number two with the collets
I'm number two with the collets
Hey man, somebody tell Kelly
I'm still waiting on mine
You done went to Saudi Arabia with this nigga
I'm still waiting on mine
Nah, they told me they were going to get them to me
They told me they were going to get them to me
They said it was in the mail.
I'm still checking the mail.
I'm still checking the mail.
What size is it?
What size is it?
What size is it?
Yo, to all of you brothers, man, thank y'all so much, man.
Appreciate that, man.
Hold up, hold up.
Oh, you took yours already?
You got to fill them up.
I thought that's what...
You got to fill them up.
I don't know.
You got to fill them up.
Oh, you got stashes, too?
Oh!
I love y'all. One more question. Here you go, bro. That's one. Oh, you got stashes too? Oh, these motherfuckers got stashes.
Yo, they in fear of having fear.
Fear.
They got stashes over here.
Salute.
I'm going to take this down.
We're going to take some pictures, and that's it, y'all.
Thank you.
This was a good one. This was a good one.
This was a good one.
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