Drink Champs - Episode 35 w/ Peedi Crakk & Oschino

Episode Date: September 16, 2016

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs! In this episode the guys drink it up with Peedi Crakk and Oschino after their Drink Champs block party. The guys discuss the State Property Roc-A-Fella Record...s days, Philly and a lot more. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:07 Yeah, what's up, y'all? What's going on, brother? low prices and ridiculous selection this spring at Total Wine & More. Cheers. they drink it up with some of the biggest players in music and sports. You know what I mean? The most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one source for drunk facts. This is Drinks Champ Radio, where every day is New Year's Eve. Let's go! Yo, y'all, this is Slimefather, N-O-R-E. What up, it's that crazy hood DJ, E-F-N. And it's Drinks Champ's motherfucking podcast. Make some noise! We had an interesting couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Yeah, man, it's been crazy. We had Bow Wow. We did. We had Combat Jacks. We had Combat Jack and Jack Thriller. The Battle of the Jacks. Jack Thriller was going on, my brother. Never lose your comedic stance again in your life.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Big up to Combat Jack and Jack Thriller. We also had legendary E-40. Oh, yeah. E-40, man. We was in L.A. Drink the Slurricane. You drink the E-40 beer. We've been traveling.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Yes, yes. We're the first podcast to travel. Let's be clear. We first took it to New York. From New York, we took it to Las Vegas. From Las Vegas, came back home to Miami. From Miami, we came to Los Angeles. Yes. What's what so
Starting point is 00:04:06 you drink a 40 beer and then on what I would like to call my drunkest episode today is legendary Dame Dash so uh definitely Dame Dash big you up big up CEO clothing big up Dame big up everything that he's doing right now. Great episode. Investing woman. So what happened with the whole Sticky thing? We're going to get into that later. That's Dame's podcast.
Starting point is 00:04:33 We would love to. We're going to keep promoting that. And I'm going to see what he wants to do with that. That hasn't aired yet? No, it hasn't aired yet. It's coming through our network. You would know if it did. Brother, come on.
Starting point is 00:04:44 So yeah, that was my drunkest episode. I was pretty close on currency episode, but I think Dame Dash took the cake and paused. And for the record, he definitely won. Like, if we were battling in our mind, he won. But there's an exception. We was drinking all day. All day. See, a lot of people don't know that.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Not yet. I did a show the night before, woke up, was drinking all day. All day. See, a lot of people don't know that. Not yet. I did a show the night before. Woke up, was drinking all day. Then recorded E-40, who's a super, super, super duper real drinker. And we drank like a motherfucker. But I'm not making no excuse. You know, Dame, he kept drinking, he kept drinking. I stood to the end.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I did not throw up. No, you stayed. You stayed to the end. You know what I'm saying? But this episode is funny because we're keeping it Rockefeller days And we got Osquino And we got P.D. Crack P.D. Crack And this happens to be
Starting point is 00:05:31 E.F. Fenn's drunkest episode Let's make some noise For that guy there But you do have to explain Yeah yeah Come on Explain Well we was at the
Starting point is 00:05:40 Block party all day The Drink Chance Block Party I came a little late To the block party As soon as I came there E.F. FM was already drunk. Let's make some noise for that. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:05:47 God damn it. And you was drinking beers. Did E-40 turn you out because you was drinking beer again? My girl got me on the beer. A beer Bacardi. I think if I drink beer, I'm not going to get that drunk.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Obviously, that did not happen. That did not happen. And don't forget the Molly juice. The Molly juice. Oh, no. Drink beer. Mally juice. Mally juice.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Mally juice. Champagne. Champagne. And then mad Tiger Bone with the drink champs army yes and for the record people
Starting point is 00:06:10 we drank two of the biggest Moet bottles people has ever seen we let everybody let the fans drink the two biggest Moet bottles
Starting point is 00:06:17 but the highlight of the night was when the fans kept requesting for Tiger Bone and we actually brung out a bottle of Tiger Bone
Starting point is 00:06:24 and I think that that had something to do with your drunkenness too because you kept taking shots with the fans and I said EFN come
Starting point is 00:06:31 come on but you were just I went in with the Tiger Bone yeah you went in with the Tiger way more than me and then remember we drank Tiger on this episode as well
Starting point is 00:06:39 so we drank a whole bottle with the fans and we drank with Petey see I don't remember I don't remember that part so you mixed way too many. And no water. We had no water.
Starting point is 00:06:47 And no water roll. Didn't eat anything all day. Yeah, I did. I did pick on a little something. Yeah. So at some point in this episode, if you see Irvin... I lost.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I lost. Hands down, I lost. I'm going to admit it. And this is dope because you know why? People really get to see that we're vulnerable as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:04 We're not just trying to Control the atmosphere To the fullest If we get drunk We let our drunkness We don't edit that neither Nah You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:07:11 So It's a dope episode I spoke to Beans Today I want to send my love to Beans We was actually supposed to Have Beans this day It was a total mix up
Starting point is 00:07:21 His people hit us back A little later We wanted to do it Early in the day So his people hit us back A little later. We wanted to do it early in the day, so his people hit us back a little later. And all of a sudden, Petey Crack and Oskino pops up. And, you know, we wanted to do a dope episode. We didn't want to mediate it, though, between the two. No, we got to shout out to Styles P.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Styles P and Jada Kiss. Big y'all up for coming to the block party. And also, Drink Champs Army. Yeah, oh yeah. Kanye West. Will be here in Miami. Will be in Miami Friday and Saturday. I want you to flood Kanye West's Twitter.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I don't think he got an Instagram. Get up in his DMs. Get in his DMs. I want you to flood Don C's Twitter and Instagram in his DMs. I want you to even flood Pusha T. He's the president. You understand? He wants it to happen.
Starting point is 00:08:12 I got the phone. Pusha T, let's big him up. Yeah. So flood Kanye West. We want Kanye West. Yeah, we need him, man. You say that artists should support artists and things of that nature. So Drink Champs Army is the first.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Drink Champs Army, we really need you on this mission. And Yeezy, we really need you to be a part of this. So you'll be in Miami Friday or Saturday. We'll make our days available Friday or Saturday. We'll come to the show, and I'll try to do a pull-up on your march pit. You know what I'm saying? Like the guy did. You see the guy trying to do a pull-up on your march pit. You know what I'm saying? Like the guy did. You see the guy trying to do a pull-up on his floating stage.
Starting point is 00:08:47 But Kanye, please, man. Come sit down with the drink champs. Let's go, man. We'll drink what you want. Whether it's Hennessy. Whether it's loose off the goose. We've seen you at Tour Rider. You had like a Wet Willies type of style.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Hennessy. And then a Wet Willies type of style. Grey goose thing. Like, you know, it was dope. It was like a slushy style. So Kanye, man. And we'll do like what MTV Kanye man We'll do it like What MTV did
Starting point is 00:09:06 We'll give him like 20 minutes to say Whatever he wants Oh yeah No we want him to do a rant We want you to do a rant Listen since we requested That DMX pray
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Starting point is 00:09:22 Of course he prayed before But I don't remember People ever asking him To pray So we're the first people That started it And you know Big up to everybody
Starting point is 00:09:28 That's keeping that tradition alive We don't want no Publishing or royalties on that We just want to And Yeezy We want to be the first people We see Ellen Asked you about the rants
Starting point is 00:09:39 And then you did a rant But we want to be the first people To ask you to do a rant And you can say Whatever the fuck we want You can say whatever the fuck we want We don't live by the rules But so getting back to it
Starting point is 00:09:47 It's Drink Champs motherfucking podcast The Army Drink Champs Army We need you to do your job And we're going to get into this Oskino P. Crack episode man Wakata I'm drunk
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Starting point is 00:11:06 tech entertainment and more play it at play.it we're back to drink champs radio with rapper nore and dj efn hey hang segue over your south beach it's your boy N-O-R-E. What up? It's DJ E-F-N. And this is Dre Chaz's motherfucking podcast. Make some noise! And right now, in the building, we got one of the craziest states slash cities slash atmospheres in the world. Philly in the building. I heard they came together. They killed Hot 97.
Starting point is 00:11:48 They didn't even know each other. Tell them niggas over there to be quiet. They didn't even know each other, and they killed it. But us in New York, we thought these niggas grew up together. We thought these niggas killed it. Let me find out. They formed a legendary group. They went on.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Stay proud? And did, yeah. All right, Ethan. I'm sorry. They went on. Stay prop? And did, yeah. All right, Irfan. I'm sorry. They went on. I'm a DJ. I'm a DJ, man. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:12:10 They went on and did a legendary two movies. Not one, but two movies. If Petey Crack didn't get locked up, there would not be a El Pollo Loco. There would have still been one, but it would have been a lighter skin. And right now, right now, in my opinion, we got state property in the building. Let's hear it. Okay, so let's get straight to it.
Starting point is 00:12:39 State property. You guys didn't know each other when you guys went to Hot 97 and that freestyle? Well, Oak can tell it because I wasn't there yet. I got there. Oh, you wasn't there? No, he wasn't with us yet. It was already state property. Go ahead, Oak.
Starting point is 00:12:51 People don't even know each other. Y'all didn't know each other at that point. Well, I knew Petey from, you know, rapping in the streets. He's from North Philly as well. Yeah, yeah. I know him from rapping in the streets. He was the skinny Puerto Rican guy with the hot lines and the crazy flow, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I've never seen Beans in my life. Never seen Chris and Neef in my life, ever. You know what I'm saying? They from North Philly, too? Yeah. They from South Philly. They from North Philly.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Or they from North Philly? Beans from South. Beans from South. Three way I saw, we used to rap in different shows and he used to be trying, I used to see him on stage, but I never knew him.
Starting point is 00:13:19 So we, I knew Sparks, we was partners already. But other than that. So Hove called y'all and say, come to Hot 97. No, he said act like they killed your cousin.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Whoa. Act like they killed your cousin. No fumbling, no making mistakes. Yo, everybody. I know. Listen. Wait, wait. That's not literal, right? It's not literal. No, that's literally what he said. He said act like they killed your cousin. I mean, we wanted to go up there and murder it like no mistakes. Don't embarrass me. I mean, because that's our
Starting point is 00:13:43 first time. And we went up there and you know it was legendary after that oh we want to talk today so now you meet beings huh you meet free and Christian Eve Chris Neve now how does it how does it take off from there like how do y'all start well we came home and it's like the high because old signs you separate correct yeah I was already signed when we went up there. I got signed in 99. Separately? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:07 The whole state prop? Yeah, I got signed on the spot right for Jay-Z. Wow. How did that happen now? I was battling with some boys in the hotel. Two guys walked up like, yo, man, you hot? Yo, we know Jay-Z. You know, I'm like, man, he's fucking hot.
Starting point is 00:14:18 He don't know Jay-Z. Right, right, right, right, right. The next day, they took me up there. And I was like, oh, shit, you came in there? And when you say took you up there, took you up? Oh, okay. Like the Def Jam building and all that. So who took me up there. And I was like, oh, shit, you came in there? When you say took you up there, took you up? Oh, okay. Like the Def Jam building and all that? So who took you up there, actually?
Starting point is 00:14:29 Sadiq. His name was Sadiq. Sadiq. Yeah. I remember Sadiq. Shout out to Sadiq. I'm like, yo, the chance of him knowing Jay-Z was like somebody saying they know Michael Jackson. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, come on with this shit, man.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Come on with this shit. Right, like it's Prince and shit. But, you know, when we went up there, it was like a few of us, they got starstruck when they saw him, not me. You know, I said, oh shit, this is my chance. I got spit. I went ham and I got the horn right on the spot. I got the sign on the spot. I got my money in 10 days.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Now how did you? 10 days. Let's make some noise for 10 days. 10 days. Now, Pete Crack, can I use that as an ashtray or I'm volleying? Use this as an ashtray. That's what I'm asking, but that's the comfort to your shit. To your molly.
Starting point is 00:15:05 No, that's fine. I'm going to drink all this molly juice. You're going to drink all the molly juice? First off, first off, I want to big up. First off, shout out to molly juice. What's my man name, Ness? Ness? Elliot Ness?
Starting point is 00:15:22 What? Naps from 8 and 9. 8 and 9. Ray at 8 and 9. Yeah, and Naps for 8 and 9. We've been recognizing
Starting point is 00:15:31 you, sir. You've been holding it down. We love you. And also, we're at 8 and 9 showroom. We just had
Starting point is 00:15:39 a live barbecue at 8 and 9 showroom. It was crazy. We didn't have security. We don't have security I've been we're trying to high security I want to I want to guys killer I want to get Hollywood some just let you speak for yourself I'm gonna be my cat with me you know what I personally I want to be my cat with me
Starting point is 00:16:00 but his karma karma my get I might have to use it. You might. You don't want to be cold without it, though. They got a definitely in Florida. You talking to Philly niggas. Philly niggas, you say gat. We always say better have it with you than not have it. All right, I'm having it next time.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Hands down. I take the charge. I don't want the shots. Philly niggas eat a Lunchable, and then they kill you. That's how you do it. All right the charge. Hands down. I don't want the shots. This is the EFN. Philly niggas eat a Lunchable, and then they kill you. No, they kill you. That's how you do it. All right, Vinnie Crack.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Mike Gatz with me next time. Thank you very much. Let's make some noise for Gatz and fucking Phillies and Lunchables. So, B-Crack, how did you meet The Rock? Well, look, they was already on. I was a fan like everybody else, just watching videos and shit. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Tell my crack.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Come over here and talk to the people, man. You got to shout out your Instagram. You can hold it down. You ain't even getting shouted out. Come on. Tell them your Instagram, nigga. Yo, Naps126. Naps.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Naps. Naps. Naps is a good nigga. Y'all have it down. That's right. That's right. 89 and Naps. Naps. Ray 89 Naps Naps Naps a good nigga That's right That's right 89 And Naps Naps
Starting point is 00:17:07 Ray 89 Naps The whole 89 staff Okay so how did you meet them B-Crack Nah look I was home Just selling tree and shit
Starting point is 00:17:15 On the block Right And I was banging The Hot 97 mixtape I didn't know O yet I didn't know none of them yet I knew Freeway I knew Freeway
Starting point is 00:17:23 The only one But I didn't know Everybody knew Freeway I knew Free We grew only one But I didn't know Everybody knew Freeway I knew Free We grew up together Wow he prayed In free places Nah this was before that
Starting point is 00:17:30 We was kids Okay Anyway But I grew up Listening to the Hot 97 shit But one day Okay you wasn't there But check it
Starting point is 00:17:38 We did establish that One day his manager And my manager They both was cool They was like some Major like Brick layersers back in the day. So we would be like they artists and shit. They would bring us to this apartment and make us battle.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Not make us, but battle each other and shit. They artists, you know, who could beat each other. And me and Oski, you know, Sparks. And I think three of us all had a cypher. And at the end, me and Oski was the last ones rapping. And I was like, yo, you nice, man. Fuck with you, man. You dope.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Man, what's your name? And anyway, we left it there. Then I seen him one day, and he was like, yo, I'm going to do a song with you. I'm good. I don't smoke. He's like, I'm going to do a song with you. And we did a song. How many of you is going to ride for me?
Starting point is 00:18:16 Then we grabbed Sparks. We put Sparks on it, and they took it up to Def Jam, Rockefeller. And let Dame hear it. And Dame was like, like yo who this little nigga I wanna meet him so that's interesting I wanna get to that part
Starting point is 00:18:29 well he basically brought him this way onto the state property so you're saying Dame signed you Dame signed me yeah I wasn't signed to state property
Starting point is 00:18:36 I was signed to Def Jam Rockefeller but he was just with us so much that they was like we're gonna go do a show he'll be with us anyway
Starting point is 00:18:44 he deported himself he deported he Puerto Rican himself But he was just with us so much that they was like, we're going to do a show, he'll be with us anyway. He deported himself home. He deported. He Puerto Rican himself. Everywhere we go, me and Spurs brought Petey with us. Yeah. So he stayed probably before he was even signed anyway. So did you, and you didn't know Beans at that time? I didn't know Beans at all, no.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Oh, wow. I didn't know Beans, no. Them niggas fooled the shit out of us New York niggas. Let's make some noise for them fools. We thought y'all niggas fooled the shit out of us New York niggas. Let's make some noise for them fools. We thought you niggas grew up together. You're a fool. Well, no, don't get it. Don't get it.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I would see Beans places and stuff like that, but I didn't know him like that. I would see him. I was a fan of the music. I love Beanie Seagull like everybody else. Love Beans and State Property and all of that. Rockefeller, Jay and all of that. So, but these was the dudes. him and Sparks were the dudes that, they were stars to me that would interact with me.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Like, yo, what's up, man? Take my number down. And through them. Now, y'all relationship is very interesting because on one hand, I hear Dame speak about you so highly. I hear you speak about Dame so highly. And on another note, you haven't worked your situation out with Dame, right? Nah, I haven't.
Starting point is 00:19:49 You know what, though? Dame is a good nigga. He's very good. He's a good dude. Honestly, to be honest with you. I think most of it is your fault. But check it. It was.
Starting point is 00:19:58 But the mind frame I was in back then, I was too personal and emotional about the situation. I wasn't appreciating him for what he was really doing at the time. Now looking back, you'd be like, yo, Dane was that nigga. He was. You was a bunch of fuck-ass niggas after that. You're like, yo, Dane was the shit. Yes, he was. I'm dealing with all these fuck niggas now after that.
Starting point is 00:20:18 So Dane was the shit, man. You were jaded by that. Nah, he told me. He told me. He told me. Nah, Dane always been my man. And, you know, a lot of greatness sometimes be misunderstood or be taken in a different way. And that was something I always wanted to rectify between y'all. Yeah, you would always say that to me.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Yeah, because I knew you was too young to understand what he was doing at the moment. You know what I'm saying? Even though me and you like the same age, right? Because you're an old nigga too. You got me by a little bit. Yeah, a couple months. You got me by like a month. My shit coming up. Oh, yeah? You know I'm saying even though me and you like the same age right because you Yeah, a couple months you got me by like a month. Yeah, she coming up. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but you'll be 39 exactly Recently this was kind of weird and shit my man shall my man Claudie B He hit me and shit He was like yo crack man Dame got this artist thing Smoke Dizzer Remember Smoke Dizzer
Starting point is 00:21:08 Yeah Smoke Dizzer He's like you fuck with him I said I fucks with him He's like you wanna do a song with him I said yeah He's like yo come up to the studio Dame got the studio
Starting point is 00:21:15 I said I don't know If I should just be coming up To the studio I don't know how Dame Feel about fuck on me I'm over the bullshit And you know I'm cool with
Starting point is 00:21:23 Coming up there and working So he's like no just come I said nah Do me a favor How about Dame first fuck on me. I'm over the bullshit and you know, I'm cool with coming up there and working. So he's like, no, just come. I said, nah, do me a favor. Holler at Dane first before I come up there. And he hollered
Starting point is 00:21:31 and the next morning he's like, yo, you right. Dane said, don't come up here. He's like, yo, don't come up here. Don't bring that nigga up here.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I want to give you the props for that but even that, it's just, nah, it's just be different moments in people's lives. Like at different moments, like, it's like, it's like, it's like, you forgive, I know that shit, man. Nah, it just be different moments in people's lives. I got you. Like, at different moments,
Starting point is 00:21:45 like, it's like, it's like, it's like, you forgive an ex, I know I'm not comparing anybody to a girl, but you forgive your ex-girl, but it's like,
Starting point is 00:21:53 I don't want to hang with her, though. Like, at that moment, it's like, all right, cool. Then a couple of years pass by, you're like, all right, tell her, you know, she can come hang out.
Starting point is 00:22:00 You know what I'm saying? I still, I still ain't fun that you referring it to, like, a girl. Nah, I'm not saying you or him as a girl, but what I'm saying is just give ain't feeling that you referring to like a girl. No, I'm not saying you or him as a girl. What I'm saying is just give you a feeling.
Starting point is 00:22:07 A feeling because I didn't understand a lot of things that Dane was doing but when I got away from that nigga I was like, damn,
Starting point is 00:22:15 I had nobody who protected me like that. No, he was good. And I had to tell that nigga to his face and he beat me in drinking. It's a fact. Word.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Yeah, with the whiskey. His whiskey's his whiskey game crazy. It's horribly good. It's a fact. Word. Yeah, with the whiskey. His whiskey is hard to see in game. Crazy. It's horribly good. It's horribly good. That's what you said? I was good.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I was good. You was good. You was good. I'm going to be selling that in Philly, too. So let me ask you. Let me ask you. So how did you connect? Because you said you rhymed for Jay-Z.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I think you said your man connected you. Now describe that situation. Well, I mean, it was like, you know, I had drove to Boston a year before that to rap for Jay-Z. He was coming out of a show. Drove all the way to Boston from Philly for five seconds. Now, how far is that? It's far. I saw him four hours.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Yeah, it must be far. Four hours? It was before Instagram and all that. To go to Boston? Like five hours. Hell yeah. And it's crazy. Once I knew Jay-Z, I asked him one day,
Starting point is 00:23:05 do you remember me coming? He's like, no. He didn't even remember this shit. But that's how hungry I was at the time. It wasn't no internet, no Instagram. You had to go to these places and try to get on.
Starting point is 00:23:14 You know what I'm saying? 100%. But once I knew Jay-Z, I knew Jay-Z for him, but I knew Dame in a different way. Because I used to hate Dame. Why? Because he was hard on you.
Starting point is 00:23:23 He'd tell you when you were wrong and he don't care about what you think. But once I started knowing know, he was hard on you. He'd like, he'd tell you when you're wrong, and he don't care a fuck about what you think, whatever. But once I started knowing him and started seeing how he is, he'd say what he mean, he mean what he say. You got him. You know what I'm saying? So it was like, you know what I'm saying? A lot of my hustle I get from him.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Right. You know what I'm saying? Because he like, you know. You got what he was doing. Yeah, I understood. You know what I'm saying? Then, you know, when they did the split. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:39 I just was like, Dane, like, I don't even have a label. Like, I said, I don't care. I'm rocking with you. Whatever you're doing, I'm rocking with you. And it's just like, you know what I mean? Ever since then. Right. So now, P-Crack.
Starting point is 00:23:48 What up? Now, so Dame, who signed you as well. You be on point, yo. You're bouncing around, Dame, is all that. Oh, yeah. Disguise. You on it, though. Is it going to be a nap?
Starting point is 00:24:01 So Dame, who signed you, too. So where did it go sour with you and Dame? Well, first of all, before it went sour, though, I didn't realize it, though. I didn't know how privileged I was. He was just shooting. He shot me straight from selling weed on 4th Street to just straight video. Automatic star from the rip. Let's describe 4th Street.
Starting point is 00:24:21 We don't know what that is. 4th Street, that's just down my hood, down my grandma's way, a bar. Is that the Puerto Ricans there? Oh, pop it out. I feel like it's Puerto Ricans there. Pop it out. It's called the bad guys. Is that the way it's in Philly? Is that the way it's in Philly? Huh? Oh, from the Puerto Rican section?
Starting point is 00:24:37 Oh, from all the way in the... Goddamn, man. Make some noise for the whole thing from Puerto Rico. I like it. Listen, if you're out here, you got to make noise. Bass quest, man. Bass quest. Yo, O from Beirut. That's like maybe like 10 blocks from here.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Like four blocks. It's called Beirut. Beirut? It must be a bad place. No, his hood is. If you ain't from down there, you're not coming down there at all. Don't drive through there. That's why I can say what I want. Nobody's coming down my way you ain't from down there, you just don't even come down there. You ain't from down there, you not come down there at all. You ain't even called Beirut. That's why, like, I can say what I want.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Nobody's coming down my way. Nobody's coming down there. I can sit on the crate and fall asleep on the studs. If you ain't from down there, you just don't even come down there. There's nothing for you down there. I don't know where Beirut is, but it sounds like a place I don't want to go. Beirut is bad. It's nothing, though.
Starting point is 00:25:20 It's continued. Would you ask me, though? I'm sorry. Dang, dang. Because he trying to... Where did it go sour at, right? Where did it go sour? It went sour. But to keep it super G with you, right, continue. Would you ask me though? I'm sorry. Dang, dang. Because he trying to. Where did it go sour at, right? Where did it go sour? It went sour.
Starting point is 00:25:27 To keep it super G with you, right? Right. You have to keep it super G. I got to keep it super G, man. I'm sorry, but I got to keep it real. It went sour when they broke up, right? Everything was smooth. Everything was smooth.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Now you're talking about the Rockefeller breakup. Rockefeller breakup. You know what I'm saying? When the Rock broke up, they called the meeting and shit. They're like, oh, crap, coming for a meeting and shit. Is that a real meeting, official meeting for them? No, no, they already had their meeting. They was breaking up.
Starting point is 00:25:51 They was having a meeting. I didn't understand they was having a meeting for the artists, like where artists going to go where. Like a breakup meeting, though? Is it a breakup meeting? But listen, no, not a breakup meeting. The bosses already handled that. This is the meeting, like where the artists going to go. So under the contract, it was a void contract if they was to ever sell it.
Starting point is 00:26:09 So I could have went wherever I wanted to. And I had flip sides out and shit. I could have got a whole other deal. It was a void contract. So they didn't call me in. Like, we're having a meeting, man. So we come in, and they got a case of Armadale and shit. And they passed me a box.
Starting point is 00:26:24 We never did this before, ever. Ever, ever, ever, ever. First did a couple shots here and shit. They passed me a bottle. We never did this before. Ever. Never, ever, ever, ever. Probably took a couple shots here and there. They like, hun, drink. Come on, everybody a bottle. I'm like, a bottle? What the fuck is this?
Starting point is 00:26:33 Are we having a meeting? What's up with a meeting? Come on, man. Fuck that shit, man. We drinking. So we drinking, drinking. We had to tolerate so much drugs and drinking this shit that they didn't know that this shit didn't even tolerate.
Starting point is 00:26:45 It didn't even bother me. Because you was smoking dust. I was going hammer time. That's the type of shit. Anyway. Get my nigga. Get my nigga. Get him back.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Get him back. Let's keep it going. Anyway. They tried to get me drunk. Were you smoking dust, though? Yeah. True? Look at FN.
Starting point is 00:27:02 You got to continue. He said this. Sorry. Continue your story. I like FN, though. Yeah. He keeps it? Look at FN. You got to continue. He said this. Sorry, continue your story. I like FN though. Yeah, yeah. He's the baddest. He's the baddest. He said dust.
Starting point is 00:27:11 That's what I know. Is it true or not? I like, you know, yeah, that's very true. It's very true. Make some noise for PCP. I grew up in the dust area. Hey, you smoking dust
Starting point is 00:27:21 is all good. Anyway, look, check it. They tried to get me fucked up And they was like Alright so When they thought I was shitty Like probably like half bottle They like come on
Starting point is 00:27:30 It's half of me And they like Yo you um You wanna uh What you wanna do You wanna stay with us Or you Where you going
Starting point is 00:27:35 You going You leaving You staying with us I said nah Who's in this meeting Damon Biggs It's Damon Biggs And I think Big Face Gary
Starting point is 00:27:41 And another person Gary Big Face what's up brother Yeah shout out to Big Face I love Big Face was always rooting for me Real happy Shout out to Big Face Gary And another person Big Face What's up brother Yeah Shout out to Big Face Big Face was always Rooting for me Real happy Shout out to Big Face Gary
Starting point is 00:27:49 A lot of people still Say it's Claude E.B. But I'm just saying At the time though In the office They was in the office You know what I'm saying Other niggas ain't there
Starting point is 00:27:56 They couldn't have Did nothing for me But anyway They try to give me shit They're like Crack what you gonna do You gonna stay You gonna go
Starting point is 00:28:02 I said man I'm out man I need some bread. I'll stay with y'all for some bread. They're like, what you asking for? And I asked them for a certain amount of shit. And they was like, nah, nah, nah. We ain't going to do that.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Two million? We'll give you this. No. It wasn't that crazy. It was just something substantial. You know what I'm saying? OK. They're like, we'll give you this.
Starting point is 00:28:19 I said, no, I'm cool. I'm done. So then they got Beans on the phone. Because they assumed that Beans would be able to, like, control the situation. And manipulate whatever the fuck goes. They got him on the intercom. He's like, yo, yo, yo, Beans, man, yo, your man in here, man, he tripping, man.
Starting point is 00:28:33 He talking about he out. Mac like, yo, you out, crack. And at the time, I ain't never had no rock chain. I was wearing Beans, the gold chain. I'm wearing the gold rock chain. So Beans is like, yo, you out, crack, on the intercom. I'm like, yeah, man, they ain't speaking my language, man. He's like Yo you outcracked On the intercom I'm like yeah man Dane's speaking my language man
Starting point is 00:28:46 He's like yo man Well alright cool Give Dane my chain And after that Whoa whoa whoa Time out You're not gonna say that Time out
Starting point is 00:28:53 You're not gonna just say that And just let it go Yeah yeah yeah Okay so What chain you had on again I had the rock chain On the gold rock chain The gold rock
Starting point is 00:29:00 Yeah But Dane never gave you a chain Never yeah So this is Dane's chain Dane's chain yeah Alright so you're in the office So they said to give it back. You're in the office.
Starting point is 00:29:06 I'm in the office with Dame and them, yeah. And they trying to get off of me, son. I was like, I'm cool. I ain't fucking with you. So this is Bean's telling you, if you ain't rolling with Dame, give back my chain. Basically, if you out, nigga, see you later. Give him my chain. I'll let you. Bean's talking about Dame, though, correct? No, he talking about me. Give Dame my chain. No, I'm saying give Dame, that's what I'm saying. Give Dame my chain. chain Like give somebody my chain Just give me my chain
Starting point is 00:29:26 And roll out So Whenever you get a chain You just get a chain So Those chains ain't promised tomorrow Yeah I don't know But look
Starting point is 00:29:32 At the time At the time I really didn't Give a fuck about the chain You know what I'm saying It wasn't about the chain no more Right It was too far gone I think Flipside was out
Starting point is 00:29:39 And it was too I was too poppin' You know what I'm saying Like I was on MTV Jams And yo shit was just crackin' Uh huh We doing major shows It was like And thepin', you know what I'm sayin'? Like, I was on MTV Jams, and yo, shit was just crackin'. We doin' major shows, it was like, and the contract is void. Nigga, I'm in a better situation than this, whatever you talkin' about. So, I gave him the chain back.
Starting point is 00:29:57 And I shook everybody's hand like, hold on, listen. You gave your name back. Nigga, I would never give my chain back. What happened? Listen, listen. It wasn't my chain,, I would never give my chain back. What happened? Listen, listen. It wasn't my chain, though. It wasn't my chain. It's Ben's chain.
Starting point is 00:30:10 So I shook everybody's hand. Like, yo, thank y'all. Thank y'all. No, he used to always take that chain back. No. Wait, tell me. That was the first time he took it. He would always do that.
Starting point is 00:30:19 He was very curious. Yeah, he took the chain. Yeah. Anyway, yo. I don't know. That was really slang. I didn't catch none of that. I like the slang. No, look. I gave him the chain, yeah. Anyway, yo. I don't know. That was really slang. I didn't catch none of that. I like the slang.
Starting point is 00:30:27 No, look. I gave him the chain back, right? And then, you know, Crack, see, Crack nice. He political. He nice. That's my bro. Tell us, please. Tell us.
Starting point is 00:30:34 I was like, good cop, bad cop. Okay, so what happened? I'm a bad cop. He took your chain back? Whenever he needs to get right in his block, he go get him, let him come to his house for a couple days, and he let him hold the chain and the rings and all that type of shit. Yeah, he's a dick. What, are you saying, like, P. Crack was ghostwriting? No, he was like, he let him hold the chain and the rings and all types of shit. Yeah, he's a dickhead. What, are you saying
Starting point is 00:30:45 Pete Crack was ghostwriting? No, he was like, he gave him his inspiration. I don't know what he wrote for him because Crack don't stay talking like that. I wrote some shit. He wrote,
Starting point is 00:30:53 I can tell you he wrote a lot. When you see Crack with all of them songs, it's not because he liked Crack. It ain't like he because he liked Crack. It's because he had writer's block.
Starting point is 00:31:02 By the time that shit was going on, I already was fed up with the dumb shit so you can't call it. He's definitely going to tell us what's going on right now. Cr he had writers blocked and by the time that she was going on i already was fed up with the dumb so you can't call no i mean but i think that's what's going on the big house because the chain is showing for a couple months did i do the cds come out the songs it was the time i was with you you probably don't remember i forgot somebody asked you for it wasn't him but like tell crack that his mom he had the j too the fucking yellow diamond Jacob I remember everything now listen
Starting point is 00:31:28 see it's fucked up when the internet come out because people get to tell the truth and no fans get to know the truth you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:31:33 so you can't do stuff that you can hide from see I don't have no secrets you feel what I'm saying so I remember he used to do that and crack me crack was popular
Starting point is 00:31:39 because crack crack got that flavor so he make with the flavor he get the flavor and he get the flavor And he's over What's wrong with you
Starting point is 00:31:47 What's wrong with you I'm before though Alright before Now crack Finish your story Alright so anyway I get a chain back and shit And I slid out
Starting point is 00:31:55 And I And he give his ding But I never forget this I get this ding I get this ding But when I slid out I shook everybody in And I was like
Starting point is 00:32:01 Alright thank y'all Cause I knew I was good I'm like yo I'm about to go get another deal With a whole nother check I ain't got to pay them Back this budget That was a Mac additional everybody in. And I was like, all right, thank y'all. Because I knew I was good. I'm like, yo, I'm about to go get another deal somewhere, a whole nother check. I ain't got to pay them back this budget.
Starting point is 00:32:08 That was a Mac additional after you left? No, not a Mac additional. I was thinking of some other shit. We about to get like a buck something
Starting point is 00:32:13 from somewhere else. So, thank y'all, thank y'all. And I got the Biggs. And I love Biggs. Yo, Biggs is always ill.
Starting point is 00:32:18 He always inspired me. He always be like, yo, keep doing what you doing, man. Don't change nothing. He always talk to me like on a regular level. That's why I fuck with Biggs. But I shook Biggs' hand. I was like, yo, man, thank you, man. I appreciate everything. He's like, yo, keep doing what you're doing, man. Don't change nothing. He would always talk to me, like, on a regular level.
Starting point is 00:32:25 That's why I fuck with Big. But I shook Big's hand. I was like, yo, man, thank you, man. I appreciate everything. He's like, yo, you don't mean that. Big said, you don't mean that. Like, you don't mean this, nigga. Like, you don't mean your little apology and shit.
Starting point is 00:32:37 He kept it G. So I walked out the office, and I walked down, and then I remember I was, like, halfway down the hall, and Uncle Darren, Big... Darren. Yeah, with the gray hair. Dame, he was like doing some...
Starting point is 00:32:50 He came back out. He was like, yo, hey, Craig, they said they got a number. I don't want to say the number. They said they got this. And I just flagged him and just kept walking.
Starting point is 00:33:00 And that was it. And that was it. That was it after that. After that, I never seen Dame again. Dame, Jay. No, I seen Jay after that because I got it That was it after that After that I never seen Dame again Dame Jay No I seen Jay after that Cause I got signed to Jay
Starting point is 00:33:08 Right after that Everybody had a decision Everybody had a decision It was a decision I understand Jay signed me back again Okay Alright tell me
Starting point is 00:33:15 Tell me You can go with Jay or Dame So this is The meeting y'all talking about Is you gotta go with Jay or Dame Yeah So you went with Dame
Starting point is 00:33:23 I'm the only one Oh She was the only one Yeah Ah So you go with Jay or Dane. Yeah. So you went with Dane. I'm the only one. Oh, you was the only one? Yeah. Ah. So you went with Jay. I went with Jay. Like a week later, I was a free agent.
Starting point is 00:33:36 I didn't know what I was going to do, but I knew that I was popping, and I could go anywhere, you know what I'm saying? But my lawyer had ran into Jay at a BMI party or some shit in Manhattan. And he told her, yo, I'm Petey Crack, a lawyer. How you doing? He's like, yo, what's up with Crack? Yo, we gonna have a meeting. So my lawyer called me like, yo, I just seen Jay at a BMI meeting. BMI party. We wanna have a meeting.
Starting point is 00:33:56 So we went to the meeting. And that night, we went there late night. It was Jay. He was in the office by himself. Just him and Carlene. Carlene. Real quick I was like yo what's up He was like yo
Starting point is 00:34:07 I'm keeping it real with you man I wanted to keep you I wanted to have you with me Like when y'all split and shit But Jay I mean Dane was so much more like Aggressive about keeping you That I just didn't want to
Starting point is 00:34:18 Tug a war about it So I just let you go with him But if you don't want to be with him Then you can stay with me And I said Yeah hell yeah Nigga I want to stay with you Uh huh can stay with me and i said yeah hell no nigga i won't stay with you because who would at the time all right at the time like i was really young saying all right so i just stayed with jay i was like i'm gonna stay with you and
Starting point is 00:34:32 that's when i started doing the neo shit and i stayed on okay so hold on so i know there's a lot of the no because i gotta get right back to you but you said something that was very important. You said you was the only one. Yeah. Because when I first seen it, and I seen it with a breakup, broke up, the first name I seen on Dame's chalkboard was Beans. So you telling me that's not the truth. You telling me that somebody put that there? I guess so.
Starting point is 00:35:01 I mean, nobody stayed with Dame except for me. You understand, at the time, I was getting a lot of money in the streets. You feel what I'm saying? And I already see... You still get money in the streets.
Starting point is 00:35:08 I heard you got Maybachs and shit like that. Special notice if you have a Maybach. I'm just going to say this. I seen, like, you know what I'm saying? Now that I'm older,
Starting point is 00:35:18 I can say it like this. Like, the way that Jay-Z was, I was looking for, like, family. I wasn't looking for, like, business types. I was looking for, like, somebody that muscle me for real because I was a loyal dude up in the streets. So, like, I was looking for like family. I wasn't looking for like business types. I was looking for like somebody that muscle me for real because I was a loyal dude
Starting point is 00:35:26 from the streets. So like, I see a boy that's like, yeah, the way he moves is something I don't understand. Damn, I could talk to him,
Starting point is 00:35:32 even if I argue. Right. I could argue with him. I understand. He came to court for me. You know what I'm saying? At my trial. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:35:39 So I feel like, I'm loyal to you. He even told me, he said, I don't even got nothing to offer you. I don't even know, I said,
Starting point is 00:35:44 it don't matter. Whatever you got, I'm rocking with you. And it's been the same every since. Like, I just did a movie with him. You know what I'm loyal to you. He even told me, he said, I don't even got nothing to offer you all. Like, I don't even know what I'm gonna have. I said, it don't matter. Whatever you got, I'm rocking with you. And it's been the same ever since, like, I just did a movie with him. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:35:49 Like, I don't even have to audition. Anything Dame do, I can do to this day. You still fuck with Dame? Yeah, I talk to him every day. He call me for no reason.
Starting point is 00:35:57 That's awesome. You know what I'm saying? I like it too. You know what I'm saying? So, that's just my loyalty. You know what I mean? You being a different,
Starting point is 00:36:02 you like some P.C.? P.C.? B.C.? That's an L.O.U. Listen, nigga. This is how they pour it in France. I'm jacking that. You know what? Like, really?
Starting point is 00:36:17 That should be a movie, a documentary. Some type of documentary. The whole behind-the-scenes shit. Yeah, exactly. But what made you... This is what I'm trying to say. Because I want to get into your discrepancy with Jay. But at that moment, you said, in your opinion, everybody went with Jay. Yeah, because I've never seen, I was in the office with Dame every day.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Nobody was never there but me. Wow. But what made you say? Because I'm from the office with Dame every day. Nobody was never there but me. Wow. What made you say? Because I'm from the streets. I can read people. I mean, I can read people. See, I'm from the streets more than everybody from State Property. They tell you.
Starting point is 00:36:53 You know what I'm saying? I'm from the streets for real. You're telling me they're little niggas. You know what I'm saying? The whole time. That's my bro. I love him. But I'm just the one going in and out the Bing and all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:01 The third in the streets. He's the one getting hit up and all that. Right? So I'm looking like a boy that, alright, first one thing I saw, he went and clear a sample for Sparks. Sparks had a hook with Jay-Z on it. Mind you, we signed to him,
Starting point is 00:37:12 but he did it for, he like, Cassidy. I'm a hustler, I'm a, he cleared that. I said, oh, that don't make sense to me, right? Now, I see 50 Cent and them start coming out, G-Unit, 50 on every song with his artists. Jay never on a song with us. If he do one song with you, you're gone. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:37:31 So I'm sitting like, you ain't got to give nobody no bread. So I started looking like, yo, boy don't really mess with us like I thought. So, I mean, if you don't mess with me, I'll mess with you. I don't care who you with. You can be Oprah. I'm not going to be sitting there and keep dicking you. You know what I'm saying? So it was like, all right, I made a conscious decision.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Like, yo, all right, I got to fall back from boy like, you know what I'm saying? Even though that's just, he only going to do what you're allowed to do, you know what I'm saying so it was like alright I made a conscious decision like alright I gotta fall back from the ball like you know what I'm saying even though that's just he only gonna do what you're allowed to do you know what I mean him to do to you so you're gonna keep sitting around him
Starting point is 00:37:50 and he ain't giving you shit that's on you he probably like cause he rich he don't gotta do shit you know what I'm saying so me I was like man fuck that
Starting point is 00:37:57 like I don't know I'd rather be over here broke with my mans at least my mans like if he do pop off I'll pop off with him you know what I'm saying cause he already
Starting point is 00:38:04 ball already popped off and I ain't popping off with him like You know what I'm saying Cause he already Ball already popped off And I ain't popping off with him Like you know what I'm saying So it was on the tip As a young boy I would never say it Because if I said it You know that's like
Starting point is 00:38:10 Blasphemy talking about Even to this day Talking about it Like it's like You can't talk about ball Like ball's like You know what I'm saying It's like blasphemy
Starting point is 00:38:17 But I'm in on some real shit Cause I'm gonna change the subject No but I ain't saying nothing bad Because he changed my life Nah nah I heard you say I gotta get back to that Because I wanna
Starting point is 00:38:26 I wanna get to that Because I heard That too Now On the same podcast I was about to get back To your life I heard Bean say that
Starting point is 00:38:33 P. Crack could be the biggest If he get out his own way He can't give no advice Like that He in his own way Yeah How you gonna give advice Like that
Starting point is 00:38:42 In your own way Yourself Nah nah Let me tell you Look Nah look Regardless of where It came from You got it How are you going to give advice like that in your own way? Let me tell you. Regardless of where it came from, you got it. You want to shout Tiger Bone?
Starting point is 00:38:52 You don't got to do that shit. Come on, Big Crack. That is Nutcracker. I want some Tiger Bone. You all around the past are made backs, man. We're going to give you Tiger Bone. I can drink the Nutcracker now. Big Crack. You want to run the pass? It's the Maybachs, man. We're going to give you a Tiger Bone. Look, look, look. Oh, I can drink the Nutcracker? Yo, big cracker. That's good, man.
Starting point is 00:39:05 That's your Puerto Rican. Puerto Rican. He's 500%. He's 500%. He got this. He look great like Joe Trump. Come on. Can we get shot glasses?
Starting point is 00:39:15 Can we get shot glasses? Please. Yo, we drinking, man. Listen, I'm going to try to get them to dodge these foul questions. Yeah. But go ahead. So he said you was in your own way. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:39:30 This is the thing, man. Honestly, coming from him, like, this is the thing. Regardless, like, if you're doing, like, a podcast and you know it's going to be internationally, like, talk to me, like, personally about that. But don't, like, air that out. If you feel that way about me, if you say certain things like, yo, state property will only be as big
Starting point is 00:39:49 as Beanie Siegel. Beanie Siegel will be as big as he want to. Ain't no other way to take that. That's kind of like downing your squad and making us seem like we're more inferior to you. Without you, without your movement, then they can't do nothing.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Niggas ain't capable of doing shit. This other thing, like, like, without you, without your movement, then they can't do nothing. niggas ain't capable of doing shit. So, this other thing, with being in your own way, why would you even present that? Niggas around the world don't understand that.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Now, I understand what he meant by that and I know he didn't mean no harm by that. That's what I want to understand. Listen, he didn't mean, Do you understand what he meant?
Starting point is 00:40:19 I do understand. Because I kind of feel that way too sometimes. I feel like you can be the, I understand that. I feel like you can be the bigger, bigger, I feel like you can be bigger than me. I can dig it. I feel like you can be the... I understand that. I feel like you can be the bigger... I feel like you can be bigger than me. I can dig it. I feel like you can be bigger than me.
Starting point is 00:40:29 But that's the thing though. Me, personally. I'm your friend. But no, coming from beans though... You see the truth in that though? I understand, but that's the conversation. It is truth in it. That's the conversation that we'll have.
Starting point is 00:40:38 You wouldn't ever say that to me on air. You know what I'm saying? You'll tell me. You'll talk to me like, oh, crack, come on, you're bullshitting. Yeah. But with Mack, you present that to people. I've been wanting you on Thug Down for the team. Come on you bullshit. Yeah, but when Matt was in that to people They don't understand we don't be in your video Let's drink this Molly juice right now. Nah, but listen. But if you present it to the world and you turn it that way,
Starting point is 00:41:07 niggas from New Orleans, he'll feel like they ain't cracking the fucking way. They don't know. He don't know. He like, yo, cracking the way. But if I'm not defending Beans, but I can kind of defend that statement, crack. I feel like you your worst enemy.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Listen, that's fine, but it's not good. Publicly, you're going to do it. You know what I'm saying? Is it public? I'd rather you not say nothing. Don't even mention my name. Talk to me personally about that. But don't get out
Starting point is 00:41:38 his own way. I wouldn't take that no other way. Let me ask you. Now, taking away from what Bean said, do you think you actually gave the industry everything the industry was supposed to require? Like, as far as, like, you know, you got to do everything. Like, at the end of the day, I love my wife.
Starting point is 00:42:00 I love my wife. My wife is here. But she has to understand that I got to... Tomorrow, somebody will call me. Did you ever feel like you gave it your all? Nah, I didn't. Nah My wife is here. But she has to understand that I got to, tomorrow, somebody will call me. Did you ever feel like you gave it your all? I didn't. Nah, I didn't. Yeah, I didn't feel like that, too.
Starting point is 00:42:09 I'm too personable of a person. Right. And I watch a lot of other artists, and I be commending a lot of artists. I see, like, Kiss and Fab and shit. Because I be like, damn, it got to be real hard to be able to put up with all of that bullshit and put that face on it and be able to maneuver around that and still go back to your regular life. I can't do that. I'm just, I just, I am who I am.
Starting point is 00:42:32 I can't change myself. You know what I'm saying? It was too much trying to change me to adapt to being cool with bullshit. Like, bullshit, I can't do that every day. It was stressful. It wasn't worth it. I understand. I be on the road for six months. I don't see my kids. It was stressful It wasn't worth it I understand I be on the road
Starting point is 00:42:45 For six months I don't see my kids It started It wasn't weighing out So I was like You know what man I had to take a break From the bullshit
Starting point is 00:42:51 I understand So All I know is It's too difficult To get y'all To come to compromise Ain't no compromise I'm not interested
Starting point is 00:43:01 Ain't no compromise Over for that So what What is it What is it that's totally... No, we don't need a compromise. Too many years. You could do solo.
Starting point is 00:43:09 You could get money. You could go to the tune court. You could pay every week. Obviously, it's not like super beef. No, it ain't no beef. It ain't beef. It ain't no like physical beef. It ain't no beef.
Starting point is 00:43:20 No, no. It's not no beef, man. It ain't beef. You understand. Even though we don't like each other right now, it's like brothers. We still love each other, though. That don't like each other. now, it's like brothers. We still love each other, though. That don't like each other. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:43:27 That's what I'm saying about you. That's what I'm saying about you. But here at Green Chance, we're at Green Chance. You got a brother you don't like. You got a brother you don't like. I don't like my brother for nothing. They get on my nerves. I don't like my brother neither.
Starting point is 00:43:35 He might be high, but he's your brother. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I don't like my brother right now. Right. You know what I'm saying? I got to let the world know, because he got the world full. If he had the world full, I wouldn't have to explain myself. So they look at me like I'm crazy, because I'm the only one speaking out. You know what I'm saying I gotta let the world know Cause he got the world fooled If he had the world fooled I wouldn't have to explain myself So they look at me like I'm crazy
Starting point is 00:43:46 Cause I'm the only one speaking out You know what I'm saying So I gotta let them know This is exactly what happened I never did that wrong though You did say You the only one speaking out You said besides a little bit
Starting point is 00:43:54 I'm not confrontational man Cause I'm not Cause this is the thing This is the thing You know why Cause I'm not I'm not really interested in like Like I make my decision
Starting point is 00:44:04 And keep it moving. I don't want to keep dwelling on that shit. Or I don't want to have to go back and forth with you. Because you never going to own up to your shit. So why argue with you? You ain't going to own it. So I understand that you ain't going to own your shit. And I'm out.
Starting point is 00:44:19 My mind frame is good. I don't want to expose you. Oh, you're retarded. That's the word of the day. Yeah, I ain't retarded. Listen, I don't want nobody to look at him like he my boss. That's the whole thing. No, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:44:29 No, but that's how you look at him. That's how you look at him. You're not the boss of me. You know what I'm saying? But what's wrong with that, though? Because he's not a boss. He's not a boss dude. A boss dude take care of their youngins.
Starting point is 00:44:37 You know what I'm saying? I got my own youngins in Philly. Whatever I got, they got. You know what I'm saying? If they need a car, whatever they need to hold a car to, whatever they need to live at, they can come live with me. You know what I mean? This is your first Oversauce interview. I'm saucy. You know what I'm saying? If they need a car, whatever they need to hold a car to, whatever they need to live at, they can come live with me.
Starting point is 00:44:45 You know what I mean? This is your first oversauce interview. I'm saucy. You're saucy. I'm the oversauce one? This is his first oversauce interview. Like, I've been oversaucey. I've been oversaucey.
Starting point is 00:44:55 No, I've been oversaucey. EFN, congratulations, my brother. Would you hit? No, I'm talking about in life, man. You know, me and you knew each other for over 20 years. I have in a moment. We've been, we've been.
Starting point is 00:45:04 I have in a moment. We've been... Because you know why? We're trying to show them how to keep it together. Yo, we're the Tiger Bowl. Give us the Tiger Bowl. You want me to pour it? Or you want to pour it? Come on, you can pour it, man. I ain't scared. Yo, I would personally like to see y'all and Beans
Starting point is 00:45:19 getting together. One day, I got to squash it. I never say never, but it's almost like another. Can we make it happen at Joe Chips? We don Forget about it. One day, you're not laughing at it. We got to squash it. I never say never, but it's almost like another. Nah. Can we make it happen at Joe Chaps? But we don't need it.
Starting point is 00:45:29 We don't need it. You know what I mean? You don't need it, man. I get it. I get it. Listen, listen, listen, listen. Check it out. Check it out.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Look, check it out. Overall, look, from my point of view, you see me, I want everybody to know we hold two different people. You know what I'm saying? I feel how he feel.
Starting point is 00:45:42 You know what I'm saying? I feel how I feel. But this is the thing. That's it? Look, I'll be willing to squash shit. Trust your homie. If everybody got
Starting point is 00:45:50 their mind right. You know what I'm saying? If shit was right and shit was straight, I'm with it. You know what I'm saying? I'm not like on some asshole shit like
Starting point is 00:45:56 I ain't fucking with shit. But it gotta be right, man. We too old. All right, so, but, but, all right, all right. So, P. Crack. What's up? You want a little more?
Starting point is 00:46:03 I got you. I want a little, listen, a little bit. I got you. I want a little, listen, a little bit. I got you. A little bit. And, you know, look, I'm a real nigga. I don't want to do it.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Oh, you got me. You're talking about me. Yo, don't leave me out. God, P-Crack fucked up over this. You ain't never get me fucked up. I'll see. Not over this?
Starting point is 00:46:19 Oh, no, never this. We never did this together. We had the sake in Philly one time. Oh, the sake. That's us. Alright. Yo, y'all niggas is the same Let's show how to do it. I know I can say that if a person can't take a shot with you
Starting point is 00:46:37 That's probably the person that gonna kill you mafia Joe Pesci and them niggas. I don't believe that guy. All right. All right. That's because he's petty. That's why he don't want to be. I don't believe that guy. I don't believe that guy. Bitch, I'll put it.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Let's go. Tag him. Take some more. Oh. Yeah, that shit hot. That shit hot. That shit hot. Oh.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh! Oh! Oh! Let me see what it look like so I know. They sell shit in liquor stores? Yeah, read that shit. Read that shit, man.
Starting point is 00:47:16 It's illegal. They kill tigers to make that shit, nigga. No, you can't read that shit. That shit is Chinese. They kill tigers to make us have a good conversation. That shit's fucked up, dude. You can't read that shit. It's illegal.
Starting point is 00:47:31 It's illegal. You want another one? No. In a little bit. Not back to back. That shit. That lean back is not a good lean back. That one still burning through the system right now.
Starting point is 00:47:41 So now you guys go to Hot 97. Now you guys. I was in the crowd. I I'm butt on the block. So how does this happen where they say, I'm going to show you exactly what happened. No, no, hold on. Let me finish my question. So how does it happen where they say,
Starting point is 00:47:55 we're going to be together, this is now going to be state property? Well, first of all, it was like on the tip of the road. You know, at the time, Hov was going through it with Nas, you know what I'm saying? So he's like, yo. Wait, wait, wait. Let's hold that back.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Nas? Yeah, Nas. Now we got to hold that back. Yeah, we got to put you in the time frame of what was going on. Yeah, we got to hold that back. Go back. Nas. I like it.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Come on, bro. I like it. You don't like me no more? No, I like it. I like it. Let's hold it back. Say Nas again. He's going through it with Nas. You's hold it back. Say Nas again.
Starting point is 00:48:25 He's going through it with Nas. You know what I'm saying? Nas wanted part of. Nas had to eat the record out. You know what I'm saying? Because Hope was up there when y'all went to Hot 97. He was there. Wait, P. Craig, why you laughing at me, bro?
Starting point is 00:48:33 I'm the same. Hope actually laughing at you over here. Don't worry. I'm going to be fully black tonight. I'm going to be fully black tonight. He told you the day before. He was like, yo, we're going to Hot 97 tomorrow, man. Y'all better get y'all stuff together.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I'm going to be fully black tonight. I'm going to be fully black tonight. I'm going to be fully black tonight. I'm going to be fully black tonight. I'm going to be fully black tonight. I'm going to be fully black tonight. I'm going to be fully black tonight. I'm going to be fully black tonight. He told you the day before, he was like, yo, we're going to Hot 97 tomorrow, man. Y'all better get your stuff together, man, and kill it. So, you know, we was kind of like even battling each other. That's what I heard.
Starting point is 00:48:56 That's what I heard. So we went up there. It was like murder. But we didn't understand. I never heard of Hot 97. What? What? What?
Starting point is 00:49:03 You feel it. You feel it. Cosmic Cat. Yeah, I never knew. Oh,. What? You feel it. Cosmic Cab. Cosmic Cab is the man. He definitely didn't play you back in the day. No, no. He just started playing you. He just started playing you.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Shout out Cosmic Cab. Cab be playing my shit. Cosmic strictly scales. He be playing my shit for like 20 years straight. Let me back home. Philly my market, man. Shout out Cab, man. Cosmic Cab start playing my shit again. Philly myab. I've been playing my shit for like two years straight. Let me back home. Philly my market, man. Shout out to Kev, man. I'm trying to get Kev
Starting point is 00:49:26 to stop playing my shit again. Yo, Kev. Philly my market. I love Philly. Kev heard the police. No, but you know what, though? This is what I learned about Kev. Kev, you can't hound him.
Starting point is 00:49:34 You know what I'm saying? He got to do what he wants to do. If you don't fuck with him, if you don't hound him and get on his nerves, he'll play his shit. But if you get on his back, then I don't know,
Starting point is 00:49:42 it's some weird psychological shit with Kev. Right? You got to leave Kev Kevin alone We ain't smoking with you Dog No we smoking That's the whole thing I'm definitely not So we went on tour
Starting point is 00:49:52 We not smoking I don't smoke After that After that After that I'm talking about like 11 cities Like we was on a
Starting point is 00:50:00 Tall tour off of A radio station Cypher You know what I'm saying So like it was that crazy. And everywhere we went, they knew it. Mind you, it was before the internet. So niggas had to ship the CDs.
Starting point is 00:50:11 I don't know how the, what the fuck. So not right now, they calling you the king of Philly. Is this true? Yes, it's true. Hell yeah. You know why I say it's true? Because I ride around in a two-seater by myself. Two-seater.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Every hood. The coupe. The coupe, the Stingray, right? Selling my CDs hand-in-hand, right? Ten hours a piece. And you got TuneCore. I heard you big up TuneCore. My TuneCore popping.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Popping. Popping. After this? After this. I'm like, I gotta buy a watch or something. You're on the way up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, I need your watch.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Definitely buy me a watch. I'm so into it. For God's sake. I get a lot of money, so I'm down. I want to live. I'm not getting money now. So, you know what I mean? Give me a rubber watch.
Starting point is 00:50:43 But see, I have a friend, though. What I wasn't doing before that I do now, I'm like more spiritual, like with God. It's not like how to corny, but I'm real like God. That's real, though. Now, when you say God, you got to say Allah because you're from Philly, correct? Of course. But I say it because. Are you Muslim?
Starting point is 00:51:00 But I think it's one God, period. I think that too. I don't care what you are. I think every God, every religion talk about it to him on the same person Yeah, there can be two years I can do it. I mean, I just think I just think you know what I think I think like one day they seen a nigga he was drinking Smirnoff And then the other day he was drinking Henny. So he might have been a little more aggressive Aggressive He would have seen nigga
Starting point is 00:51:44 She started doing that like that Lord that's the little ingredient that I was missing. You know what I'm saying? The spirituality. And it sounds like the kind of, I'm a street dude. So that's how crazy it is to be saying it. But once I start thinking like that, everything starts changing.
Starting point is 00:51:52 What's your name? North Philly, Bay Roo. No, Bay Roo. Bay Roo, 1200. That sounds very scary. 1200, you know what I'm saying? And if you go on my page, right? Craig, I tell you,
Starting point is 00:52:00 I'm out four in the morning, five in the, every day. Five in the morning, three in the morning, every day, all day. We bump into each other a lot, man. Wait, you're preaching? Let me see. No, I'll be out in the morning, five in the morning, every day. Five in the morning, three in the morning, every day, all day. We're both into each other a lot. Wait, you're preaching?
Starting point is 00:52:06 Let me see. No, I'll be out in the slums just in the mix. I got no snow because that's where I live at. You're preaching. Man, we wrecking. We out and about.
Starting point is 00:52:15 So what are you doing? First of all, I'm getting money. You get money. You know what I'm saying? But the right way, though. The right way. I thought he was doing
Starting point is 00:52:23 the gospel shit. Hell no. No. When I say spiritual, I mean like believing in God heavy. But you're not telling nobody. I'm not going over and telling nobody. It's for me. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:34 You know what I'm saying? It ain't for nobody else. It's just for me. Because you think you can have a plan and you want to do this, but if God ain't with it, it ain't going to get done. You know what I'm saying? And this is so corny to me because I'm from the streets. Like, man, I'm in jail.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Everybody trying that. Once I started thinking like that, stuff started changing. Because I only been back rapping since February. I was in the penitentiary for a couple years just now. But at one point, state property, y'all looked like the tightest crew. It wasn't. Never was the tightest crew. It was all fake.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Wow. It was all fake. It was only because the internet wasn't like. No, no, no. I'm going to disagree with you. I'm not going to disagree. I don't like that. I mean, because we got different perspectives.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Yeah, because it was times, though. But maybe from my perspective that I felt like that we was like tight-knit and we was moving. Because there was a certain time when we felt like a unit. You know what I'm saying? What year? That point? Tell me what year. It was certain times, man.
Starting point is 00:53:22 I like this. Because listen. I feel like I got robbed in 03. Nah, this is the thing. Y'all want to know the shots I got boned? Yeah, give me that.
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Starting point is 00:53:43 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just so y'all know, I'm a fan, too. We fans. But let me tell you the funniest thing, though. If you look at when I first dissed Beans, right? I got Meek with me. He a kid. When you dissed Beans? On YouTube. You go to YouTube and see him.
Starting point is 00:53:51 You know, dissed Beans. Meek is a kid. He with me right there. Put up the clip, Cass. You know what I'm saying? Put up the clip, Cass. I'm in Brennan and Philly. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:53:58 Before people started messing with the kid, like the people that's hot in Philly, like right now, it's the kid ain't butter knife. You know what I'm saying? I think he can be the next. Butter knife. He can be the next big superstar. We on that JBL. I don't want people in my city to get on, whether they go through me or whatever.
Starting point is 00:54:10 I just want to tell them it's talent. Like you said, I'm a fan of the music first. Me too. You know what I'm saying? You just get on, and I'll get my blessings later somehow. You know what I'm saying? So when I got a dude that they saying is my boss, and he want to hold me back, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:54:21 When he know I got the streets, he know I got the prisons, you know what I'm saying? Solid. How can I respect that? You know what I'm saying? Out of I got the streets he know I got the prisons you know what I'm saying but how can I respect that you know what I'm saying my man but I can tell you this though I'm happy right now especially when you come down here you see girls skating pants With thongs on It's like the afterburn Yeah
Starting point is 00:54:50 Welcome to my house I don't really drink no more This is hip hop Hip hop is running the media right now Real niggas running the media The inmates are running the building You probably even remember Hold it for later
Starting point is 00:55:04 It's fast It's fast. It's fast. Go ahead. No, I was like, yo, it was you and Nature and Cardan. I was like, yo, I was a super fan.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Like, you know, you. You my nigga. You my nigga. I got a mixtape, man. I gave you a speech. I'll give you a long speech. You like, you want to do a song? Come on.
Starting point is 00:55:20 I'm like, yo, this nigga regular like me? Oh, shit. You don't remember that? I fucking remember. You don't remember that? I fucking remember. You don't remember that? I was hype. I was normal.
Starting point is 00:55:27 I was hype as shit. That's what people say. They don't know. I support real niggas. If you a real nigga, I support P-Krat. But I'll charge you for your record. When we did a record with you, absolutely not. Nigga, I'll charge you?
Starting point is 00:55:39 Oh, my god. No. I mean, man, we did a bunch of records together. I was always. I was always the one. You was the big homie, though. You was the big homie. I was the talking shit. No. You did... We did a bunch of records together. I was always... I was always the one to bring up. You was the big homie, though. You was the big homie. I was the talking shit.
Starting point is 00:55:47 No. You did, you did. You gave me the one up. Hold up. Let me tell y'all something real quick. Oh, shit. Yeah, you can talk my shit real quick. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:55:55 You got it, you got it, you got it. Yo, come on, nigga, shut up. Paul. Paul's the guy. He don't like this story, though. Look, all right, so check it. This around, like, when T-O-N-Y came out? Like, 90-something? T-O-N-Y? When the video... 90, 97. 97, all right, said check it this around like when when T.O.N.Y. came out like ninety something T.O.N.Y. when the video 97 97 I said check I prize about like I
Starting point is 00:56:10 don't know maybe like like 19 20 years old I told you story many times don't believe me but I swear to God yo check it he was a shit T.O.N.Y. hit the hit on rap city I don't know if it was the fucking um yo MTV raps or The Basement. Whatever the fuck was going on around that time. So, me and my man, ND5, shout out my brother, ND5. ND5. We was turnt out off this shit.
Starting point is 00:56:35 We like, damn, who the fuck? Capone, Noriega, Tragedy. This shit was so hard. Like, man, you better. Shit was hard. So, we like, damn, we got to shoot down Sounds of, what's the name of the shit?
Starting point is 00:56:47 Sounds of, Music. Sounds of Music. The shit down downtown. So we shoot down there. I did the install there. We call the bus. We call the bus.
Starting point is 00:56:55 We're going to grab the CD and shit. We need shit on CD and play shit throughout the system. It's a very expensive life. We get there. We get there.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Yo, this the craziest shit. We on our way to go get y'all. Really, I swear to God, this ain't no bullshit. I swear on everything. And we on camera. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, we on camera. I'll tell you a lie or something.
Starting point is 00:57:14 I'll be better. Later on, we can tell you some bullshit. Nigga, this real. Yo, when we walk to the record store, we going to go get Capone Noriega, T-O-N-Y. I opened the door. I swear to God, I opened the door. I opened the door for this nigga. He's going to his store.
Starting point is 00:57:34 And that day just happened. Open the door. He walked past and shit. I'm like, yo, I'm looking shit. I'm like, I ain't five. I'm like, yo, that's Noriega right there, dog. He's like,
Starting point is 00:57:45 no, it ain't. Come on, crack. I'm like, yo, I swear to God, I watched the video, man.
Starting point is 00:57:49 That's him. I was like, he's like, come on, man, get the fuck out of here. I said, yo,
Starting point is 00:57:54 I said, hey, you know what, right? He turned around like, yo, I said, I told you.
Starting point is 00:58:00 I told you, man. I told you, yo, let me tell you, he walked up and shit, I'm all fucked up about this shit. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:08 We just called the 47. We just called the 47 to 8th and Market. You know what I'm saying? Damn, Tane, you know. Okay. You can go ahead. Shout out to Philly, dog. I let him know.
Starting point is 00:58:22 I say, ignore me. I say, yo, yo, we fuck with you, dog. Yo, I seen you. I love that T-O-N-Y shit. I'm about to go grab the single, man.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I need you to sign this shit for me. I'm like 19 years old. I'm like, you'll sign this shit for me? He like, all right, all right, I got you,
Starting point is 00:58:36 I got you. I'm like, yo, five, I'm like, yo, hold up, wait for me for a second.
Starting point is 00:58:39 He waited for me. I went upstairs, brought the single, came down, he signed it. So me and five, we smoke Mads and shit They can smoke man
Starting point is 00:58:54 No, no, yeah, I think that's what we had like four cigarettes right then again we pull cigarettes out. Yeah. Yeah, you you'll get one of them. I'm like, all right, we got four, but you know the reason. You get one. We get a nigga. I'm still my style to this day. Yeah, I'm sorry. You pulling my card. We get a nigga one. Because we fucked up. He signed the CD.
Starting point is 00:59:15 He signed the CD, and they had the black and white little promo head shot, y'all. Remember them jobs? I don't do that shit no more. Capone had just went to jail. That's why Capone wasn't there. I had to have the black and white drinks. I know exactly. Come on.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Go ahead. So we talking shit and shit. But I didn't know at the time. He was just bullshitting me around for another cig. Yeah. That's a fact. He was like, yo, yo, yo, can I get another cig? I'm like, damn.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Oh, yo, we got like two cigs. Yo, we give him another cig. Yo, listen. We give him another cig. Smoke the listen. We give him another C. Smoke the L out. But we was chopping it up with him. It was a different Nori, you know what I'm saying? It was a young Nori, like a young.
Starting point is 00:59:54 It's the same Nori. No, no, no, no. In my pocket right now. No, no. I'm still going to smoke the L cigarettes. But it was different, though, because right now, you know, life is a little different for you, you know what I'm saying? That's a blessing, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:00:05 But at the time, you always had this look in your eye. He always was like this, like, oh, he's on some shit. Like, I love some shit. I'm trying to be sick. He was on some shit. I want the niggas to let me. I'm a shooter. We was on that bullshit, too.
Starting point is 01:00:18 I didn't have shooters. I was the shooter. So, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? I apologize. We ran out of cigs, though. And we walked. I walked to the store with you. We walked to the store. Now you remember? I'm sorry. Yeah. You know what I mean? I apologize. We ran out of cigs, though. And we walked.
Starting point is 01:00:26 I walked to the store with you. We walked to the store. Now you remember? I always remember. You remember from me telling you the story. No, I always remember that story. Don't come at me like that. You a Puerto Rican, nigga.
Starting point is 01:00:34 That was my thing. I was a black nigga that I recognized like another Puerto Rican nigga. That's what you told me. You said I'm a Nigger-Rican, too. And that's why the record we did, what was it called? Nigger-Rican. Let's make some noise for Nigger-Rican. Nigger-Rican.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Nigger-Rican. Nigger-Rican. Nigger-Rican. Nigger-Rican. Nigger-R you told me. You said I'm a nigga Rican too. And that's why the record we did, what was it called? Nigga Rican. Let's make some noise for Nigga Rican.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Don't you ever tell me I don't remember that story. That's crazy that that happened like that though. Nah, because every time I tell him the story,
Starting point is 01:00:57 he be like, get the fuck out of here. I'm just trying to act big. I'm trying to act big. But I remember that story. For years I told him this story. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:01:04 yo nigga, I had a CD. Remember you slept in my mansion? I had a mansion, a big mansion. That was recent when your niggas was stars and shit. I'm talking about when. Back when. All right, let's take it back to me coming up.
Starting point is 01:01:14 To come up. Yeah. To come up. I like to come up. But anyway, it was just Elton, me, him at that time. You know what I'm saying? Back then. And you my nigga.
Starting point is 01:01:21 And then for us to, you know what I'm saying, link back up. And then Beans introduced us. We got a big Beans up, man, at some point. Look at the Beans. All right, let's look at that. That's how you know you're real. That's humility.
Starting point is 01:01:33 What's the word? I don't know. We don't know words. Humility. We don't know words. Humility. Humility. It's hard to say that word right now.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Humility. Humility. Humility. Thatility. Humility. That means humbleness. Listen, I definitely would like to put it back together. I know I'm not as powerful. I fucked up. I squashed the beef with...
Starting point is 01:01:53 JC. And Joe. Yeah. And then Drake and DMX. You got your high point. You got some lows. And then I fell miserably after that. You got some lows.
Starting point is 01:02:04 I fell miserably. So, when I listen to Tax Stone shit, it was crazy because I usually, because I'm a big fan of Tax Stone. I have no problem saying it. He's one of the reasons why I started doing the podcast. It was EFN's idea because I could feel like, I'm not looking at him, but I could feel like the energy is coming from over there. He got weird energy going on right now.
Starting point is 01:02:26 He's drunk as shit. But I like it, though. I want to be on that side. This is the first episode where he's drunker than me. So I'm enjoying it. Never talk about it. Never talk about it. But mind you, I'm drunk as hell, too.
Starting point is 01:02:41 I'm all right. He's drunker than me, and that's so awesome. So anyway, so I'm listening to Tac Stone's shit. Hell too He's drunker than me and that's so awesome So um anyway So I'm listening to Tac Stone shit and we had just Invited Beans Right we had just invited Beans And I invited
Starting point is 01:02:55 Um Crack So Crack was like you know alright cool So I'm like alright cool I didn't plan to have y'all together Anyway but I was like alright cool And I'm listening to Tac Stone's shit. And then O says, yeah, oh, yeah, Normie got a barbecue. I'm going out there this weekend. And I look.
Starting point is 01:03:11 And I pull a crack. What did I say to you, crack? What did I say? He's like, yo, you set me up, man. I'm like, yo, what are you talking about? He's like, yo, yo, you know I had beans coming out here, man. You got a whole skid out here. I'm like, nah, listen, listen.
Starting point is 01:03:25 It was a coincidence. A quickie dick. Right, a quickie dick. A quickie dick. That nigga's got to be quiet over there. But as I'm trying to tell Nori, like, the story, he like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He did this shit for like a long time. It got irritated.
Starting point is 01:03:36 I'm like, nigga, you going to let me tell you or no? No, it seemed like a line. You can't say yeah. No, but it was a quickie dick. You know, you know. It was. I used to line niggas up, so I had to put it together. I said, it felt like a line. No, no. We have this book to show. I thought to line niggas up, so I had to put it together. I said,
Starting point is 01:03:45 it's probably like a line. No, no. We have this book to show. No, no, no. Let me tell you. Look, look. You had already invited Beans, but me,
Starting point is 01:03:54 oh, and my man Johnny J had already, we was in Philly negotiating this shit for my birthday party for October 2nd. Everybody come out. October 2nd, PD crack.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Where we at? You know what i'm saying where we are oh tla south street you know you know tla yeah right by eskimo it was my say they got my picture up there so we we was negotiating that shit and then at the same time uh i let oh no like yo we about to be out me and my man jay my man jay just booked all the flights and shit we're going to Nori Cookout weekend All that birthday party shit He's like yo
Starting point is 01:04:28 Asshole He want to slide out I was like oh my man My man we out So we all We all just dead I didn't I forgot
Starting point is 01:04:36 I never even knew That you had You know what I'm saying I ain't know that I wouldn't have did that I've never invited you Anywhere and said Who you with
Starting point is 01:04:42 But I wouldn't have Did that neither I'm a real nigga Yeah I don't want to see no fireworks. It ain't that deep, though. I don't think it's that deep. That's what I want to get to, O. That's what I want to get to.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Because we spoke about the problems today. Can we speak about the solutions? I think the solution is this. First of all, instead of trying to degrade me or say something bad about me when you did something to me, he could call me like, yo, yeah, I was wrong. I shouldn't have did that. But it would have been simple. Real simple.
Starting point is 01:05:08 But instead, it's like, I never did nothing wrong to none of my homies. Period. If I did do something wrong to my homies, I would call them like, I was drunk. Which it really never happened, ever. But in my, and not in his defense. Think about money. I got kids. In my defense, so many people had nothing, then got something,
Starting point is 01:05:25 and then they didn't know how to control it. No. When you steal somebody's money out of their pocket, knowingly doing it, it's different. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:05:32 What do you mean by that? Well, I'm going to tell you that the three times, for sure, the first one, the Hot 97 tour we was talking about, we got per diems every day.
Starting point is 01:05:40 A hundred and something dollars. But we was getting $3,000 a show. You know what I'm saying? So that's 11 times $3,000 is whatever it was. Then it's me, Sparks, Chris, and he was like five of us.
Starting point is 01:05:49 They money got took too. He's not going to say nothing, but whatever. Everybody money. Everybody got money. Craig wasn't there yet. You know what I'm saying? Then recently, Craig,
Starting point is 01:05:56 did I give you a bag of money when I got the bag of money for the boss twice? For the AC show, yeah. Did I give everybody their money? The AC show. Definitely.
Starting point is 01:06:03 The AC show that he said. That's where it all started. First of all, he said the AC show was in 2006, but Meek and Rick Ross was there. In 06, Meek Mills didn't even know Rick Ross. You know what I'm saying? Meek Mills was still with me. It was in 2011. You feel what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:06:14 So I was down there gambling, like I said, and I got the money twice. I got the less money out the bag. I broke them their money at a restaurant. And Crack is here now, so he can tell you. I gave him his money. Go, Crack, here's your money. On Delaware Avenue. money at a restaurant. And Crack is here now, so he can tell you, I gave him his money. Go, Crack, here's your money. On Delaware Avenue.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Delaware Avenue, exactly. All you can eat. Exactly, buffet Chinese spot. Right. So Beans already took everybody's money
Starting point is 01:06:31 and spent it. You know what I'm saying? So I made the dude pay twice. I could have took the money the second time. They wouldn't have known. They didn't even know.
Starting point is 01:06:38 I called him, I got your money, man, the boy took. You know what I'm saying? So that's how that show went. For me to do that, and for you to act like
Starting point is 01:06:44 that ain't happened, instead of saying it happened, I was dead in it. You trying to swing all this other stuff going around. You know what I'm saying? So that's how that show went. For me to do that and for you to act like that ain't happening, instead of saying it happened or dead and that you trying to swing all this other stuff going around, you don't do that to your young boys. You don't take your young boys money,
Starting point is 01:06:51 especially when your young boys got kids and your young boys in a treacherous town. We in a treacherous town that we known. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, you doing that,
Starting point is 01:06:58 it's like, what is you doing? You know what I mean? So like, that's my whole beef. And then it happens still to this day where they will say,
Starting point is 01:07:04 all right, we got a state property show. They will pay for everybody and then some people won't get paid. So he might get $40,000 and say, let me get Chris and Neve. Let me get Chris and Freeway. You got everybody money, but we won't know about it. But now with the internet, you see every flyer. State property reunion is in Virginia.
Starting point is 01:07:24 I don't know nothing about that You know what I mean So all I was doing Was if I ain't bringing Attention to it It just keep happening But do you see The good that being
Starting point is 01:07:32 Brought to y'all No not to me No No good that you brought to me Because I got signed on my own No I speak differently Okay
Starting point is 01:07:39 I do see the good You know what I'm saying Well what good was it Tell me At certain times Whether the intentions Was good or not I still was given Opportunity You. At certain times, whether the intentions was good or not, I still was given
Starting point is 01:07:47 opportunity. Not me. I was never given nothing. I know, but we different. You know, our situation is different, but Beans put me on like one of his albums.
Starting point is 01:07:54 I had three songs on his album. You know why? I understand that, but it's the thing. It's the thing. Regardless of that, regardless of the intention,
Starting point is 01:08:03 you know what I'm saying? It's real. You know what I'm saying? That's what I love about O because he going to be him and I'm going to be me. You know what I'm saying? It's real, you know what I'm saying? That's what I love about O, because he going to be him, and I'm going to be me. I like that. I like that. I like the yin and yang. We're not going to agree on all everything.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Because he had right as block. He needed them. But that's fine. But look, look. Regardless of the situation, is that I still had the opportunity to voice my music on an album that was wildly spread. You know what I'm saying? Three songs, got the headless flatline. What does he mean by that?
Starting point is 01:08:31 By what? Tell the truth. By what? The rioters block. I don't know about the rioters block shit. No, no, no, that ain't no lie. No, no, no. He's taking a lot of shots.
Starting point is 01:08:42 All right, here's your question. What happened after that? I did the songs because I was question. Once you did the songs, what happened after that? I did the songs because I was taking control. I did the songs over, then what? They did it. It's fucking us up over the songs, though. This is the thing. This is what fucked me up, though.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Now, look. Now, this we just show. Because they didn't take Sparks songs? No, no. Wasn't that Sparks song? No, but hold on, hold on. Give me that sweet, that good shit stuff. But no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:09:04 You got to make a mark of this, though. Okay. I'm going back to this rock song. This is the point where you get the illest shit, because you got to be real drunk right now. Yeah, I ain't got to be drunk. I'm good. You got to make some noise for that shit.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Let's make some noise for it. I don't know what we're making. You got the first filly niggas that been here. All right, anyway. And I'm trying to keep it clean. This is the thing. I was doing the songs because I just wanted to be heard, you know what I'm saying, at the time. I ain't know nothing yet.
Starting point is 01:09:28 I was still stuck. They was a star before me. I was just happy to be there. You know what I'm saying? So I ain't know the business yet. I didn't care about that. I was still like in rapper, artist mode. Like just happy to be on stage, video, shit like that.
Starting point is 01:09:41 The business sense wasn't there at all. You know what I'm saying? So I wasn't caring. I was like, yo, he be like, yo, come. You come over, help me with this joint, or I'm going to take this song or whatever.
Starting point is 01:09:51 I ain't give a fuck. As long as it's going on the project, I'm with that. Okay. But you're missing the question. Yeah. The question was, how did he help you?
Starting point is 01:09:59 At the time, man, not at all. That was the question. But at the time, we was in the same boat. But I've been peeping the game because I'm from the street. I've. That was the question. But at the time, we was in the same boat. But I've been peeped the game. Because I'm from the streets. I've been peeped the game. You feel me?
Starting point is 01:10:09 Because he went to jail for a year and a day. But we still riding on the same type tip, though. But I had to go to the streets to get my Jaguars and my business and my stuff. True, true. I always was driving Hot Wheels. Always. Because I was in the streets. For real, for real.
Starting point is 01:10:21 You know what I'm saying? But anyway, he went to jail for a year. He came home. Nobody wrote me. I fed him. I burped. And I wrote him. I'm the only one that wrote You know what I'm saying? But anyway, he went to jail for a year. He came home. Nobody wrote me. I fell in that burp. Mind you, I wrote him. I'm the only one that wrote him because I always write my niggas in jail.
Starting point is 01:10:29 That's just what I do, even to this day. But he came home, and the way he was talking, like he did 10 years. Like, yo, I just did a year. Nobody wrote me. It was in XXL and all that. Mind you, I just got out of jail for a homicide in 2000. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:10:41 And I can't even imagine saying that about my homies in the newspaper. But as soon as I say something about him, like all these people saying, don't say this or don't say that. But he can say anything you want about us. Anytime. He can say all types of shit about us. I fed up with you niggas quick as that, I will earth you niggas.
Starting point is 01:10:53 That's saying a lot. You know what I mean? To me, I'm like, what the fuck is you talking about? You know what I'm saying? So when I say something, why is it a big deal? But when he say something, it's not a big deal. But you felt like he was talking about the other niggas? He was talking about all of us.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Yeah. Because if you're talking about crack, you're talking about me. And even if you ain't talking about me, you're talking about me. You can't even talk about crack and ain't talking about me. You know what I'm saying? I don't move like that. You're talking about crack. You're talking about, even though I'm a mushroom christening right now, but you're talking about them, you're talking about me.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Why are you a mushroom christening? Because they, with them. I don't do the middle man. You know what I'm saying? So, because he burned He robbed him too And they not saying Yeah oh right They not saying
Starting point is 01:11:27 Yeah oh They not If they would have just Come out like Yeah oh not telling He telling the truth They scared the death And we call it
Starting point is 01:11:34 State property Scared of death Of being I guess They scared of controversy They scared They like They just want to be
Starting point is 01:11:38 Politically correct I just want to be real and right Because niggas respect real You know what I'm saying So the people are like Well I don't like bull But at least tell the truth You know what I'm saying? So the people are like, well, I don't like Bo, but at least tell the truth. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:11:46 All right. And right now, they're calling you the man of the town. You know why? I was single. Because I came home. I just came home.
Starting point is 01:11:53 I was broke as shit. Ain't had nothing. And I'm going to tell you, Bo, if I'm broke, I say I'm broke. You know what I'm saying? I don't be like, I'm beating around the bush.
Starting point is 01:12:00 I went to school, trying to get a job and wasn't working. So I said, I'm going to the booth. Went to the booth, dropped the CD, and the rest was history. I was delivering it to niggas' house for $10.
Starting point is 01:12:11 And you ain't got a deal, correct? I ain't got no deal. I don't even have a manager. We're going to talk. I did that shit to the muscle. I see your movement. I did it from the muscle. And now?
Starting point is 01:12:21 We won't get off that negative shit. No, we on the positive. Now I'm getting money now. No, that's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? I'm getting money. I got Craig right possum now get money now. No, that's what Sam Sam get money I got Craig right here Now my man, I got a new connect Shot 365 Top server in the building, Trezzy.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Push! 365 South. Yeah. Push, what up? Exactly. It's going to make you drive better. Top server. Everything can be fixed with this, man.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Everything can be fixed. We're going to fix this bean shit. But not today. Not today. No, today? I was scared today. Did I tell you? I told you I was scared.
Starting point is 01:13:05 Yo, I'm fine. This is the thing. No, you I was scared Yo I fucking love you This is the thing Nah cause I was like Damn man This is the thing This is the thing Crack line me up I'm gonna be honest No look
Starting point is 01:13:10 Crack you line me up But I describe the squad though Me and O We always been like A different type of Character and personality That you can't really contain Or make us
Starting point is 01:13:21 Act or We voice our opinion Can I tell y'all something Oh You know how we is, man. There ain't no stopping us. I didn't probably make the mistakes that y'all think that I didn't make mistakes. And I wish I could always rectify the situation with certain crew members.
Starting point is 01:13:40 And it ain't the mistakes that y'all talking about. But that's why I just want to give him the benefit of the doubt Because ain't nobody perfect in this motherfucker But can I say this real quick though? This is the thing I don't agree with everything that Oskino's doing Yo, I don't agree with everything that he's doing
Starting point is 01:14:00 I don't agree with everything he's doing I don't agree with everything, you know what I'm saying? But the bottom line though, you know what I'm saying? The don't agree with everything, you know what I'm saying? But the bottom line, though, you know what I'm saying? The bottom line, everything truthful, you know what I'm saying? So you feel like you got robbed, too, you feel like? Yeah, but I wouldn't go that route, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:14:16 But I do admire him for that, you know what I'm saying? For speaking out, and I'm just with him on that, man. I just like that. We got the same personality, you know what I'm saying? Why hasn that man I just like that we got the same personality. How about Sparks? Why hasn't Sparks said anything? Sparks he be up and down like he be having like sometimes he be hostile sometimes he don't I don't know but you gotta understand I don't smoke I barely drink I got clear hair so when I'm doing all this it's from
Starting point is 01:14:38 us I'm the same every day I'm saying and when I got eight kids that I got that I take care of so if somebody take 40,000 from me That means something He took 40,000 I mean I say I mean You gotta think
Starting point is 01:14:50 If we getting 3,000 A show the first time I mean Who knows how many shows I think it was more than that I'm just saying Even if it's 10,000 People around my way
Starting point is 01:14:57 Get killed for 1,500 Right You know what I'm saying So 40,000 They kill your whole family You know what I'm saying So 40,000 It ain't even about the money
Starting point is 01:15:04 It's the principle That you take from your young boys. All right. Period. You know what I mean? And if I took from my young boys, my young boys love me so much, I could ask them. Let me have this. Go ahead. I got you when I get back, right?
Starting point is 01:15:15 You know what I'm saying? But just like it ain't happening, didn't say something bad about me. I got the right to say something wrong. But what if it was just a mistake? No, it wasn't a mistake. A mistake is not robbing somebody for 11 cities. A mistake is not robbing somebody for 11 cities. A mistake is not robbing somebody
Starting point is 01:15:26 again and again and again. A mistake is not getting a bag of money from a concert, spinning it, just saying, I seen a sweet link, I seen a sweet bet.
Starting point is 01:15:32 A mistake is not, the day you took $40,000 from us, you ain't paying a DJ for $100,000. DJ, I'm here. I got it on tape. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:15:38 It's like, the stuff that you're doing is like, that's not mistakes, that's your character. You know what I'm saying? A mistake is happening, you have it once or twice,
Starting point is 01:15:44 not year after year after year after year after year after year. You know what I'm saying? Your mistake is happening once or twice, not year after year after year after year after year after year. You know what I'm saying? That's why I don't really want to rectify because I could never mess with a dude
Starting point is 01:15:50 like you anyway. You know what I'm saying? So my goal is to be better musically and do my own thing and show you how you supposed to treat your young boys.
Starting point is 01:15:56 I want my young boys to be in Maybachs and Benz's and all that stuff without me saying nothing. You just see them. You know what I'm saying? It's no brainer.
Starting point is 01:16:03 We supposed to be super rich. We got to stay property. One, two, three, four, five, six, we supposed to be in state property 20 right now. It's facts. You can see him. You know what I'm saying? It's no brainer. We're supposed to be super rich. We got to stay property. One, two, three, four, five, six. We're supposed to be in state property 20 right now. It's fast. You're supposed to say, oh, whatever you want wrong with you, let me fix it so we can get this shit done. That's the boss. It's easy.
Starting point is 01:16:14 That's how you feel of a baby and Wayne situation right now? But see, they're so rich, it don't matter. They're still going to be in Star Island. Yeah. But what I'm saying is, do you feel like that is that the exact situation that could have probably fixed that situation? No, because I think they did. They handled their business first. They started beefing after they already reached their families to care of.
Starting point is 01:16:34 You know what I'm saying? I got six sons. So, you know, when you got sons, it's like you're trying to get money so they don't got to start from scratch. You know what I'm saying? So it's a different thing. I can't be humble knowing my sons is right there. How can I be humble when I got six sons right and my sons are teenagers so they look like well I mean they can I gotta get some money for them
Starting point is 01:16:51 to be able to go to college or start business or whatever they want to do that ain't about me already? Get him. Get him. He ain't did that. He ain't did that. He ain't did that. You sure? I'm sure. I ain't driving.
Starting point is 01:17:12 All right, cool. Who driving? Johnny J driving. I ain't going to make the mistake. Right. We heard his car selection is serious.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Johnny J. Oh, that's my boy, yo. Johnny J. Shout out Johnny J, man. Shout out Johnny Johnny J push I'll be trizzian Come on, tell him. He got the shit. My boy, what's up, man? You out of here? You done? I'm good. I'm good.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Leave me at home tonight. Tonight, hold it down. No, as soon as I get my paper right, I'm moving down here. You got to move down here. Move down here. I see people skating pads with thongs on them. So? It's crazy.
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Starting point is 01:22:52 Because at some point it was right, O. At some point y'all was happy together. Let me just say this. I understand what you're saying. Y'all looked happy as fuck to us. You know why? Because I got 100,000 advance. J or Dane?
Starting point is 01:23:05 Both of them together. They still was together. I got signed in 99. They still was good. Everything was clicking. They had paintings that cost 200,000. It was like real money. They had money. It was nothing. We got Jacobs on our birthday. They got Jacobs on their birthday. Everybody got Jacobs.
Starting point is 01:23:21 Dan. On your actual day You know Jacobs was like You know We remember It was like It was major
Starting point is 01:23:29 You got a Jacob You could do like this Dayma Dayma come find you He come find you Like yo Where you at man But you had beef with Day
Starting point is 01:23:36 Nah Nah Nigga Yeah you did I told you It happened later We talking about The good times
Starting point is 01:23:44 You know what I'm saying The highlights The good times These are. I'm saying the highlights. The good times. These are the highlights. These are the highlights. The nice shit happened later. I said it was good times when he was on tour. And two, three years later, I was getting $180 a day on the tour.
Starting point is 01:23:55 And I was getting $3,000. Let's keep it on good times. Yeah. I was about to tell you about the good shit. You slid off to the dumb shit. Keep it on the good shit. That's fine. Let me say something good that was good about the good shit. You slid off to the dumb shit. You slid off to the good shit. Let me tell you something good about the tour. Rockaway was free.
Starting point is 01:24:10 Rockaway always free. Double boxes. I didn't get two boxes of the same shit. Dave, he didn't pay you in Rockaway. I didn't get two boxes of the same shit. Dave, you owe me $50,000. I got you in the game. I wouldn't change it for nothing, though.
Starting point is 01:24:24 I wouldn't change it for nothing, though. I wouldn't change it for nothing, though. I wouldn't either. We had so much fun. The fun was worth a million. You take some dirty boys from North Philly and put them on tour, and they know us. Mind you, no internet, so they know how we look. We had to say our verse to the girls.
Starting point is 01:24:37 Like, yo, I'm the one that said. Trust me, it was definitely fun. So now that Sparks record. Preach that good shit stuff, how did that happen? What was that record? Well, Jay-Z used to hear records and he'd tell you to say it again or he'd listen to it and he'd just put his twist to it and it'd be his. It's just simple.
Starting point is 01:24:57 He the boss. What you gonna say, no? Yeah, but you ain't say nothing just now. How did that become Sparks records? He took it. He took it. Okay. Like, I mean, like, like, like, So it was Sparks record?
Starting point is 01:25:07 He had Pharrell in the studio? No, Pharrell, see, we had, me and Sparks had this song before we was signed. Okay. Like, like, Tells of a Hustler?
Starting point is 01:25:15 Me and Sparks had that before we was signed. Like, a lot of the songs we all say, probably one, me and Sparks had before we was signed. So they heard it,
Starting point is 01:25:21 and then, like, Beans, I'm on a remix, but I was on the first one. The original first one. You know what I'm saying? Of what record? Tons of a Hustler. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:32 So the original one, y'all had recorded that already? In 98. I was in a group called ICH. We made a special hit, man. We had a song called Tons of a Hustler. And that was our song. But I blame myself. I was in jail a lot. Okay, so now, but let's describe the Pharrell record. The sweet, that mad, that good. He said he was in jail a lot.
Starting point is 01:25:51 Yeah. But you was there for that. I was in jail for Homicide then. Yeah. 2000. Yeah, 2000. Keep it at 100. Keep it at 100.
Starting point is 01:25:58 2000, I was locked up for Homicide. Oh, you was locked up? You know, I know it because I seen him on Saturday Night Live from jail. So, but y'all had that record prior recorded? He said he was in jail a So, but y'all had that record prior recorded? He said he was in jail a lot, man.
Starting point is 01:26:07 But see, the difference was, Pharrell wasn't there. Come on, man. What do you got? What do you got? He was in prison, man. Oh! He said it, though.
Starting point is 01:26:17 He said it. I'm talking about in jail when Jay-Z did it. No, I know, but he's laughing at me for what? No, I'm saying when Jay-Z did it, what was Jay? He got nothing to do with that. He got nothing to do with that. He dropped, he dropped, but he's laughing at me for what? No, I'm saying, Jay-Z did it wrong today. He got nothing to do with that. He got nothing to do with that. He drunk. He drunk. You're about to come over there, man.
Starting point is 01:26:30 I'll be shitty over there. No, no, no, no, hold on. So y'all recorded that right here? No, wait, he said he was in jail. Yo, chill. I didn't know that. Hey, y'all. You want to approach us?
Starting point is 01:26:42 You got that butt. Nigga, we don't smoke. Why you keep getting into the ass? Hold on, hold on. Wait, so did y'all record that record together? That's sweet. That's sweet. Sparks, Sparks, Sparks. I hated the song.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Because it's like a Rick James. Oh, yeah, it's like that. But Sparks, that was, basically, that's Sparks' brainchild. Right. You know what I'm saying? So when you heard that, you knew that Hov had took that. For sure. First of all, y'all chow. Right. You know what I'm saying? So when you heard that, you knew that Hov had took that.
Starting point is 01:27:07 For sure. First of all, you got to remember what I said. He wouldn't even let us on a song with him. So sparks on the hook of that song would never happen. When I had a hustler, it would never happen. That's a freeway song before Hov heard it. Wait, when I had a hustler? Yes.
Starting point is 01:27:20 Wow. So the songs you hear people on, it's like, you know what I'm saying? They want it because... So that was Freeway's song Yeah We just gotta give up right now My man we gotta understand See it was crazy Cause at the time
Starting point is 01:27:32 I was like you had me Because Hope don't And you think He mess with you like that But he really don't He mess with your song And then after he's like Alright I got enough songs for them
Starting point is 01:27:39 You know what I'm saying Get up to the side But see I ain't disappointed Because I already knew See when it's coming Like alright that's what it is I'm over there You know what I'm saying But just imagine He gave, but see I disappointed because I already knew I see when the coming like alright That's what it is. I'm over there. It was there, but just imagine he gave stop it man I mean, I'm sorry so so what was your because at one point?
Starting point is 01:27:52 Whole put you put you on yeah, so what was that? What was the exact moment where you was like? That's it. I think he's in Miami, and I seen him like the way in Miami he's making games and things go out you've got had a mink on I was in Miami so cool come I can make a Miami I won't sweat so we shot the brain I used to wear like a motherfucker why not that's all we got so the people there your fucking phone you mad disrespectful Why not? Let's do it. I do. Yo, listen. Yo, pick up. Okay, here's that story. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:28:27 So, if he was there- Get off your fucking phone. You mad disrespectful. I just thought, at that time, I think that's when Sparks had a song with that he was trying to get Hope to clear a hook or something, whatever. And he's like, Hope didn't tell him, but I guess he don't got to tell you. They'll tell you, like, no, he not doing it. But I seen Cassidy's y'all.
Starting point is 01:28:40 I'm a hustler. I'm a hustler. Got clear. And I'm like, why would you clear that dream for him? You know what I'm saying? Then I started seeing, we don't got no, State Property 2 came out. He ain't on no song with us.
Starting point is 01:28:49 And I'm like, I ain't on no song on State Property neither. But just think if he on the song with us, like, whatever it do. Yeah. Like,
Starting point is 01:28:58 I'm saying, so it's like, it don't cost him nothing. You know what I mean? So then I was like, he don't fuck with us, though. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:29:04 In my head, I'm like, I mean, and I'll never disrespect him because, you know, that's a big homie. But what I mean? So then I was like, he don't fuck with us, though. You know what I mean? In my head, I'm like, I mean, and I'll never disrespect him because, you know, that's a big homie. But just on some real shit,
Starting point is 01:29:09 I'm like, oh, he don't fuck with us. Because he fuck with us, he can just snap your finger and you can be in a position. He don't got to give you shit. His word,
Starting point is 01:29:16 just saying it, like something like, you know what I mean? So it wasn't like I did nothing. I just, in my head, I knew like, oh,
Starting point is 01:29:20 boy, don't fuck with us. Yeah, everybody else don't see it because they groupies. And you felt that same way, P. Crack? Huh? You felt that same way P-Crack Huh
Starting point is 01:29:26 You felt that same way Crack just said No he just said Start coming around No J was cool You know what J Yeah J was cool man
Starting point is 01:29:34 It was weird Fucking with him man Cause He would always like Make me feel like Real comfortable Exactly But do you think
Starting point is 01:29:42 He'd fuck with you now Hell no Alright I mean Honestly Honestly This the thing This the thing Honestly Exactly But do you think He fuck with you now? Hell no Honestly Honestly This the thing This the thing Honestly
Starting point is 01:29:49 This the thing That I realize now Back then See where we from Like if you my man You my man And we fuck with each other Like
Starting point is 01:29:57 And we tight No matter We broke or whatever Broke together Get money together Whatever We ride together So when they start
Starting point is 01:30:04 Talking about family up there I had the whole Family perspective That's fucked up I'm like yo They family They family They was like yeah man
Starting point is 01:30:11 Yo I give you the key To my crib Right now You know what I'm saying You come to my house My house Your house I'm like damn
Starting point is 01:30:18 This shit is L up here He did though But I came From that road Where it's like My man Dao From the block He managed Me and Freeway, and he really took care of us. He was like our uncle, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:30:32 This nigga was like, he's a block nigga, but he's getting money. But he took care of us. He put us in the studio and shit with no kickback, like nothing, like nothing back. No residuals, nothing back, no label, nothing. Just shooting in the dark. You know what I'm saying? Right. Shout out Dao. So, shout out Dao, man.
Starting point is 01:30:49 Shout out Dao. Dao Bay, you know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah. So, I went up there with them morals. You know what I'm saying? I grew up on 7 Montgomery, 7 Marshall. And I just went up there with them morals.
Starting point is 01:31:01 And I just thought that they was on the same shit. And it wasn't the same shit. But there's a thing. There's a thing. There's a thing. When I went up there with them morals, and I just thought that they was on the same shit. And it wasn't the same shit. But anytime, let me be honest. But there's a thing. There's a thing. There's a thing. When I went up there, so I had that ideal of this was going on with us, and it wasn't. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:31:14 It was like we're industry friends. You know what I'm saying? I understand having industry friends. I didn't know that. Rap friends. You know what I'm saying? Well, me. I've been through so much things in my life.
Starting point is 01:31:30 And when I can sit back and I can think about it, there's a lot of things that I regret. Like me personally. I ain't so regret, man. Because this is a question I'm going to ask y'all. But I'm saying, when I sit back and I think about a lot of things in life, there's a lot of things I wish I could do over. There's a lot of things I wish I could have took back. There's a lot of things I wish I could do over a lot of things. I wish I could have took back There's a lot of things. I wish I wouldn't did hmm. Is there anything that y'all I didn't take my opportunity For the full advantage of it like I should have advantage. It's a lot of stuff to happen. It's my own fault
Starting point is 01:32:00 That's why you know so like for instance Tell us is not being a bigger star that I'm than I was because you know first of all me being broke so long and being the hustle long I don't have a mom and pop and all that stuff like a regular person got getting some bread it's like oh shit like yo shit like yo like you tripped up and hit the lottery so you know I was so tripped off for that my work ethic wasn't what it should have been so you know I blame myself for that but at the same time you be an older black boy from the hood, if you really from the hood,
Starting point is 01:32:26 you see, I already got shot nine times before I got signed to Rockefeller. You got shot nine times before 50? Yeah, in 97. Let's make some noise
Starting point is 01:32:32 and get shot nine times. So, I'm just saying, if you don't know if we were supposed to make noise for that or not, I'm sorry, but. I understand,
Starting point is 01:32:39 but you just know, if you know a young boy in the streets like that deep going through that, first of all, if Ho would have told me anything, I would have did it.
Starting point is 01:32:46 Just because of Jay-Z. Ho. Because you met Jay direct. Direct. You didn't meet him through Dane. I didn't even see Dane yet for a while. But what I'm saying is this. I blame myself for what.
Starting point is 01:32:59 But at the same time, if somebody's stealing from me, that's different. But no, my fucked ups, I did my time for them, my messed ups. You know what I'm saying? And I understood. I got older. I started like, damn, I fucked up. I fucked up. But at the same fucked ups, I did my time for my messed ups. You know what I'm saying? And I understood. I got older. I started like, damn, I fucked up. I fucked up. But at the same time, being an older dude, the sign, any dude, if a dude from Buffalo,
Starting point is 01:33:14 I'm going to say, yo, dog, you shouldn't be doing this, you're doing that. Instead of just leaving him out in the cold. Because you got to understand, now you're leaving him out in the cold with his sons. That's a whole new generation that you're going to affect. You know what I'm saying? So why wouldn't you say, damn, let me school him so he can take care of his kids? Because at the time, he didn't even have no kids. You know what I'm saying? So that's't you say, Dan, let me school him so he can take care of his kids? Because at the time, he didn't even have no kids.
Starting point is 01:33:26 You know what I'm saying? So that's just easy. It ain't about no money. It's about pulling somebody's coat. I mean, a dude that you know don't have a pop for real. We making them songs to stay property. That's our real life.
Starting point is 01:33:36 That ain't no fucking songs. That's the real shit. I mean, when you say we don't have a pop, we don't have no mom, we foster homes and prisons and jails and shootings.
Starting point is 01:33:42 What was the good time? The good time was when I got, all of it because you could have been dead. You could have been in the good time? The good time was when I got All of it because You could have been dead You could have been In the penitentiary You know what I'm saying? And the story
Starting point is 01:33:49 You're telling me Keep it real It wasn't good as it could have been But it was way better Than what it was Times a million Damn You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:33:55 It's times a million You know what I'm saying? So I would never take it back Because that shit saved my life I mean because I was in the slums And shout letting You know what I'm saying? So like
Starting point is 01:34:04 You know what I mean? But looking back I slums in Charlotte. You feel what I'm saying? So like, but looking back, I'm like, damn, you know, say I got artists. I'm going to be involved in their life. I don't got to go
Starting point is 01:34:10 to their house or their hood, but I can just say, tell me what's going on and I can give them advice just as being a real dude. And I know they look up to me and they're going to listen
Starting point is 01:34:18 and if they don't, then that's on them. So you're saying you was never ever, it was never negotiated that you would be Beans artists? Never.
Starting point is 01:34:25 Damn. Never Damn Never Never He just said Listen we wasn't even sure We was going to call ourselves We tossed around two names State property And cocaine cowboy
Starting point is 01:34:33 So for him to just say I made state property And I made this It wasn't even like that We just tossed around a name State property sound better We ran with that And that was the name
Starting point is 01:34:42 For all of us So when you become the boss Because he had Already had his song Like he had songs with Jay Z So he's more famous than us That's it But other than that
Starting point is 01:34:50 It's like He never Wasn't no Signed nobody He didn't have the power To do that I mean I got signed By Fyfe
Starting point is 01:34:56 But never saw his face You know what I'm saying Now how about you B-Crack Yo where the tiger bone at You want another shot Yeah Shout it out I'm about to quit I'm going to keep it
Starting point is 01:35:06 a hundred. Nah, don't quit. Nigga, they ain't no quitters. Come on, man. We're all money. I'm a grown man. I can say quit. Come on, man. I got kids and shit. I'm done. No, we're making
Starting point is 01:35:22 you done. He's been done. He's been pushing the table. Everybody in the lake, we're protecting you.. Ben done. You've been done. He's been done. He's been pushing the table. Nah, we're protecting you. Nah, but listen, listen. If it goes, we're protecting EF. No, but I want him to be a little more interactive, though, tonight. Nah, listen.
Starting point is 01:35:34 No, no, let him be chilling because he's going to say some crazy shit. He wants state property to be state property. I do, I do, I do. He does. Absolutely. He told me that before. We're on the Oprah show right now. And he was trying to force me.
Starting point is 01:35:51 Because, listen, Beans is out here right now. Yeah, no doubt. And I really did want to. But I was too drunk to try to mediate it in the correct way. Because I did have success mediating other beef. But I was always sober when I mediated. I don't think the beef is that serious. It ain't that serious.
Starting point is 01:36:10 This ain't bullshit, right? Let me tell you. This ain't no bullshit, right? Speak up. Speak up, crack. I love being a crack. I love being a crack. Talk that shit, nigga.
Starting point is 01:36:23 I love being a crack. I love being a crack. You want me, nigga. I love being his death. You want me to talk or not? Yeah, you want me to talk. I love being his death. But here's the thing. What we saying, man? Everything is just so official. And it's everything that we wanted to say.
Starting point is 01:36:38 But I've been saying this shit. And I've been out. He's trying to flip on y'all. He said y'all. No, I've been telling him I resigned. I've been resigned. He said none on y'all He said y'all No he said y'all Cause no I've been telling him I resigned I've been resigned I've been resigned
Starting point is 01:36:47 I've been resigned He said none of y'all niggas To be saying that No but he He cleared that shit up though I've been resigned He said none of y'all niggas To be saying that
Starting point is 01:36:54 No Nigga listen to the shit again Listen I listened Two times Oh help me God He said none of y'all niggas To be saying that
Starting point is 01:37:02 He said He said besides crack He said that early Alright nigga What are you gonna say that for? But then when he went back And reiterated He felt a different way
Starting point is 01:37:10 He said none of them niggas Would be saying this I still don't think Nobody don't speak up I don't Nah Nah I don't have to speak up
Starting point is 01:37:18 I know cause I got it Somebody speak up I got it Look at you Somebody speak up Before O.C. son I ain't had to speak up. I've been just stopped fucking with niggas. Because you had seen Beans in Atlantic City, right?
Starting point is 01:37:30 Correct? Recently at a comedy show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we talked about that. It ain't real beef, though. Let's keep it real. It's not real beef, man. We want to make this right.
Starting point is 01:37:41 No, because when people say beef, you think of beef like beef. Street shit. Street shit. It ain't that. It ain't. No, people say beef. You think of beef like beef, beef. Street shit. It ain't that. No, no, no, no, no, no. It ain't that. It's rap beef. Because to me, when I hear you all.
Starting point is 01:37:50 It's business beef. It's business beef. When I hear you and I see all your interviews, to me, it just feels like you're just disappointed. Yeah, like, yo, man. You know why? Because if it wasn't for internet, nobody would never know. Right. I'm supposed to be burying the penitentiary somewhere.
Starting point is 01:38:02 All right. You know what I mean? Because I was taking penitentiary chances. You know what I mean? And I'm going upstate for real. State property for real, for real. You know what I'm supposed to be Buried in a penitentiary Somewhere You know what I mean Because I was taking Penitentiary chances You know what I mean And I'm talking about I'm going upstate for real State property for real For real
Starting point is 01:38:08 You know what I'm saying So for me to come out I said let me tell my piece And tell it in a way So they can understand Where I'm coming from I wouldn't even have to sell drugs If we was doing
Starting point is 01:38:16 What we were supposed to be doing In the first Oh yeah He's fucking you up I ain't driving I ain't driving Take it You hit me.
Starting point is 01:38:25 You tell me you're going to hit me on the phone. Come on, P-Chart. We can keep everything. Corn beans? Nah, you're not getting me with that one. Nah. I'm going to tell you this. Advertiser 5 and Advertiser 6.
Starting point is 01:38:38 It might work. It's definitely on iTunes. It's on Tidal. It's on all that. So you definitely can support me. And that comes straight to me. You ain't got to worry about Nobody burning me Because I do my own business now
Starting point is 01:38:46 You know what I'm saying I'm my own manager now I'm my own everything now With the internet You don't need nobody All you need is the hustle And the hustle is real We got Drink Champs
Starting point is 01:38:54 Man this movie About to open up Don't worry about that I'm looking good out there You come to Philly I'm looking good out there They tell me Philly loves Drink Champs
Starting point is 01:39:04 That's all I know I'm looking good Tiger there. They tell me you're looking good. Philly loves dream champs, though. That's all I know. I'm looking good in Philly. Take a look at the after effect. You just keep talking and you just be like, ah. I know. That shit fucking you up. Keep it real. That shit fucking me up.
Starting point is 01:39:14 And I'm an alcoholic. That shit fucking me up. He don't drink like that. Yeah, but you know what? This is what I love. What's up? You don't love shit. You and Game.
Starting point is 01:39:29 A great moment. He's probably one of my favorite street artist dudes. But what attached, what comes with y'all is the drama. Because we emotional. But I feel like you guys could always be bigger artists if you detached the job. It's up to God, though. But that's up to God. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:51 But I feel like y'all don't need that. I don't feel like game. Game's supposed to be out here tomorrow. We're going to try to get them. Pick up the whack 100. That's my nigga. But whack. Yeah, that's my nigga.
Starting point is 01:40:04 Knock a nigga's out. Yeah, that's my nigga. But whack. Yeah, that's my nigga. Knockin' niggas out. Yeah, that's my nigga. But, you know, I just feel like street niggas are special artists. Because I'm a street nigga. So I always, you know, cater, you know, to what the streets is going on. And sometimes we just don't need the controversy to go over the streets.
Starting point is 01:40:27 Right now, I call niggas. I ask niggas. Niggas say, oh, got the fucking city. Yeah. You got the city without
Starting point is 01:40:35 this and beans or what this and beans. No. But you got the city. Hard work and dedication. And maybe I'm wrong. Like, like what you're saying,
Starting point is 01:40:50 trash, Elliot Wilson trash. It's the Elliot Wilson trash. Don't even say it. Well, trash, I went through a similar situation with trash, right? Trash put me on. He jerked me. He took my publishing. Beans didn't take your publishing. He jerked me. He took my publishing. Beans didn't take your publishing.
Starting point is 01:41:06 Publishing is personal. Nigga took my publishing. Through a lawyer. Whatever. And I forgave Traz because Traz put me in a position to where I can say fuck everybody. But would you fuck with him again?
Starting point is 01:41:22 Yeah, I do. I don't do business when he's in position to do it, but I do do business with him when I'm in position to rule it. And he respects that. Forgiving is heavy. You know what I'm saying? And he respects that.
Starting point is 01:41:38 And I would wish something like that. You know what I'm saying? It's not out the realm of possibility. It's just that right now, I just think that I'm popping like, where I'm from, I'm saying? It's not out of the realm of possibility. It's just that right now, I just think that I'm popping. Like, where I'm from, I'm popping. No, you popping. You know what I'm saying? Period.
Starting point is 01:41:49 Like, you know what I'm saying? So, it ain't about the controversy. It ain't about, it was about, like, he's telling a story. I mean, though, he bigger than me. He can tell a story to more places than me. So, I had to tell my story. Then I tell my story. This story is done.
Starting point is 01:42:01 This story over with. Like, I mean, I just don't want to do nothing with State Property. I want to be separate from State Property. I want to be known as Oski. Like, I mean, I just don't want to do nothing with state property. I want to be separate from state property. I want to be known as Oski now. That's it. It ain't no big thing
Starting point is 01:42:09 because I got the music. I got the work ethic. I got the hustle. And you out there. You know what I'm saying? So it ain't like this is a big thing. Like, oh,
Starting point is 01:42:14 I'm just dwelling on this. This just happened to be, you know, I got a platform to talk about it. And people want to know the story. Because I remember
Starting point is 01:42:19 all through the 2000s, especially early 2000s, what happened to state property? That was the biggest question. It was too much to tell them. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. State property three.
Starting point is 01:42:26 I mean, they're like, what's the, it's the, there'll never be a state property three movie. I won't ever say never because if the bag right, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 01:42:31 and the bag right, then it's, you know, we can do it, make it happen. Me and Dame, I just met with Dame early. You know,
Starting point is 01:42:36 I just, you know, I just did a two honorable movie. I stabbed Murder Mook up, you know what I mean, shot the Murder Mook. You stabbed him up though? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:42:42 I killed like three people in the movie. Any movie that I do, I know about movies. State property two, you killed a couple nigg stabbed him up, though? Yeah. I killed like three people in the movie. Any movie, you killed a couple niggas in State Barney 2, though. State Barney 2, you killed a couple niggas. Yeah, yeah. It's a nice game. Yeah, it's a nice game, yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:50 But see, you know, he's doing the movies, he's doing all this stuff. I'm on parole in May. I'm going to L.A. Wait, you're still on parole? Yeah, I'm still on parole.
Starting point is 01:42:58 Let's make some noise for another nigga on parole. Drake Champs, God damn it. God damn it. God damn it. We got too many parolees in the Drake Champs. But I'm going to LA
Starting point is 01:43:06 You know what I'm saying So like You know Like Craig said Damien should say Yo Here go the key to my crib I used to take the key
Starting point is 01:43:12 And really go To Beverly Hills And be in there for 10 days Now on Tax Stone Podcast When it came out A lot of people Thought you were high
Starting point is 01:43:20 Is that No I get pizza You're sober as fuck I don't even smoke weed Yeah But they They think you on all Because I'm just No because I don't get pizza. You're sober as fuck. I don't even smoke weed. Yeah, but they think you don't know what I'm talking about. No, because I'm just
Starting point is 01:43:27 an energetic boy. Yeah, they talking that crazy shit. No, no. Yeah, they talking about, yo, Groovy, that nigga. But listen, they definitely said,
Starting point is 01:43:35 yo, he knew me on my life. I can get tested and shit. This nigga only drank when I knew that he drank, but right now, since we've been, like, together and shit, he don't drink the same way he even drank. But he never, but now, I'm looking he drank, but right now, since we've been together and shit, he don't drink the same way he even drank.
Starting point is 01:43:46 Don't be nothing. I'm looking at you. Listen, but anyway, no, he never smoked. He on one million. Anyway. This is how I am. I won't go time without nothing. If I got high, I'll be in your door life.
Starting point is 01:44:01 Nah, no. He bent off that drive. Off that drive. That drive got him. But P. Crack. What's up? Describe PCP for us. Man, give me a cigarette.
Starting point is 01:44:11 I can describe that for him without even doing it. Yeah, yeah. Tell us PCP. Come on. Come on. I ain't, man. You got the wrong one, man. I ain't the fucking PCP mixologist.
Starting point is 01:44:20 Listen, we never had a PCP person describe it. You know what? Please. It's like your worst. It's like butt naked? Getting butt naked? Nah, it ain't butt naked. Nah, nah, nah. Tell us. It's the thing that you I see you on PCP and lean on one night. Nah, nah.
Starting point is 01:44:36 You lying. Crack. You don't know what I was on. Yo, my brother was on that shit one time, right? PCP and lean? No, PCP, he was holding the wall up. Ay, yo! Yo, bro. He's crying.P, he was holding the wall up. Hey, yo. Hey, yo. I said, yo, bro. I was freaking out, bro. He's crying.
Starting point is 01:44:47 Oh, help me hold this wall up, right? No. So I had to fake it and hold the wall up with him, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So listen, listen, listen. When I started, when I started holding the wall up, he ran off like it was about to fall on me. He was ducking and ran off from the wall. That's PCP.
Starting point is 01:45:00 That's PCP. All right, there you go. You made it one time. Come on, describe your experience. Don't leave me alone, man. Give me a cigarette, man. No cigarettes in here, brother. I'm out. I'm out. You got some weed. No, there you go. You need it one time. Come on, describe your experience. Don't leave me alone, man. Give me a cigarette, man. No cigarettes in here, brother. I'm out.
Starting point is 01:45:07 We got some weed. It's like... No, no, no, no. I said you smoking PCB and lean at one point. You never said you smoking no PCB. All right, maybe not PCB. You lying like a motherfucker. It's the same thing.
Starting point is 01:45:20 I'm good. I've never smoked dust in front of you. No, you did. But I heard you smoked up before Thank you please Why you just make up a lie Let's just remember that But come on
Starting point is 01:45:34 Let's describe that Because our listeners have never heard the PCB story Nigga I'm not the fucking PCP You all the smoky giant for PCB You remember the guy from the wood forest? The guy wasn't on it. Come on, just subscribe one time you got butt naked.
Starting point is 01:45:53 Come on, please, please, Craig. We don't know a PCP story. We need to fuck along. Please. Craig got high tolerance. I got a high tolerance. Yo, you know what's up? Tell us what happened. Let me tell you something, though. Don't tell you the subject. Listen. No, Greg got a high tolerance. No, I got a high tolerance. Yo, you know what's
Starting point is 01:46:05 telling me? Tell us what happened when you spoke. Let me tell you something though. Don't tell you this subject. Listen,
Starting point is 01:46:08 listen, listen. Earlier today, yesterday, we was riding in the Maybach. I ain't bragging or nothing,
Starting point is 01:46:15 but just to make... And y'all pulled up in the Phantom 2 just now? Nah, shut up. But we was in North Carolina
Starting point is 01:46:21 in the Maybach and I was like, yo, remember when someone started to be tripping and someone was tripping? I was like, yo, remember when someone started to be tripping? And someone started tripping. I was like, oh, remember when I was smoking that shit? You ever saw me trip?
Starting point is 01:46:29 Never. Never saw me trip. So just tell us, just describe. I don't. When you used to smoke. I thought you could probably tell us. I'm not going to play clean now. What about when you and Spurs got locked up?
Starting point is 01:46:38 When they said, yo, Rob. Oh, shit. Were they on PCP? All right. Yeah, we were on PCP. Describe the situation. Describe the situation. All right. So, we were on PCB. Describe the situation. Describe the situation. All right.
Starting point is 01:46:47 We never had a PCB store. Check it. Check it. Check it. Check it. All right. So me and Sparge, we coming back from this spot called Lincoln Motel. It's on Roosevelt Boulevard.
Starting point is 01:46:57 All right. This is in Philly. This is in Philly. Yeah, I'm Philly. Everybody in Philly knows what the fuck I'm talking about. They have the little theme rooms. Shit like $70. You get a country restaurant room, Chinese room, all types of shit.
Starting point is 01:47:11 My nephew Young really need one of those rooms tonight. He ain't coming with us. We got to get one of those rooms tonight. It's still open. Yeah, yeah. In Philly. We're going to fly him to Philly. So check it.
Starting point is 01:47:21 We driving, right? But Sparks got a.38 in his pocket, right? Now, this is a revolver, correct? Exactly, yeah. A.38 revolver, yeah. The dirty bullets? No, it was a good gun. Oh, you got clean bullets.
Starting point is 01:47:32 It was a nice, clean get. It was a cool, it was a good gun. I like.38s with dirty bullets. Go ahead, continue. All right, so we driving, and we see the cops and shit. I'm like, oh, shit. But I didn't realize, we were so high. We didn't realize how slow we was driving. We was driving like 10 miles an hour.
Starting point is 01:47:50 So we was driving slow. But I thought I was cool. So they pulled up and shit. We pulled over. And I forgot he had the gun. I would have pulled over anyway. We pulled over. And they pulled over.
Starting point is 01:48:00 They had the guns out. Oh, put your hands up. He had the gun and shit. So they locked us up. But that's the part. They took us had the guns out. Oh, put your hands up. They had the gun and shit. So they locked us up. But that's the part. They took us to the precinct. They said, yo, y'all fit the description for some people that robbed the Dunkin' Donuts, right? So I'm like, yo, we ain't robbing no Dunkin' Donuts.
Starting point is 01:48:17 We just came back from fucking these bitches at the hotel. We definitely ain't robbing no Dunkin' Donuts, nigga. So we sitting there interrogation. They put the pressure on us and shit. Yo, yo, what you want to do? What you want to do? What you want to do? Then they showed us this video.
Starting point is 01:48:35 They showed us this video. When the video came on. Was it about sexual harassment? No, it was about the robbery. No, no, no. It was a robbery. Yo, they said we got video. When they put the video on, yo, I swear to God.
Starting point is 01:48:46 Yo, everything, that wasn't us, but everything in the video matched us. Yo, it was the same exact car I had, right? It was the same exact car. Yo, the nigga had the same jacket. You remember the X-Colibus with the fur? You know, the snorkels. The-Caliber with the fur? You know, the snorkels. The snorkels with the fur and shit. You know, you zip it up.
Starting point is 01:49:11 The snorkel. Nigga had a snorkel on like Sparks. And I was sitting in the car like I was. And it looked like us. He's like, oh, that's y'all. And I'm looking at the fucking camera like, yo. You're about to say this is us. I'm like, no. I never said this was us. Wait, you're mine. You, this is y'all. And I'm looking at the fucking camera like, yo. You're about to say this is us. I'm like, no, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:49:25 I never said this was us. But in your mind, you said this is us. I'm like, damn. Did we rob the fucking dogs? The crazy part about the story is, the crazy part about the story is, we had a XXL cover shoot the next morning. We can't find them. No, we can't shoot the next morning. We can't find them.
Starting point is 01:49:46 No, we can't find them. Oh, you can't find them. We going to hospitals. Look them up. We in a prison. We go to police stations. They said, oh, two guys? Yo, we got two guys.
Starting point is 01:49:54 We're like, yo, they a rap group? They come like, no, they rob the Dunkin' Donuts. We like, yo, you think they rob the Dunkin' Donuts? But yo, look, they let us out. I got a lawyer. I call my white boys. You know what I'm saying? White boys. I got a lawyer. I call my white boys. You know what I'm saying? White boys.
Starting point is 01:50:06 I always get you in, white boy. Yeah. Call my white boys. Antley, Louis Farrell. I'm sorry. Ant Lou Farrell. You know who they are. Most of them are Jewish.
Starting point is 01:50:13 There's a big amount of Jewish people. Yeah, they the shit. They Italian, but it's cool. Okay. They came through. Philly is Italian and New York is Jewish. Yeah. They came through and shit.
Starting point is 01:50:21 And then they got me and Sparks out. And Sparks was like, yo, yo, crack. I knew you was cinching on me, man. They came in the room, they said, yo, yo,
Starting point is 01:50:29 your man Pedro Zayas, he told me everything. He was like, no, no, not Pedro. That was the funniest show. And this is before y'all on.
Starting point is 01:50:37 No, we on. We on. We famous. When they got out, we went to the Stomach South photo shoot. We taking pictures,
Starting point is 01:50:44 these niggas just got out with themselves. Yeah, because if you wouldn't have got locked up, I would have never been in state property, too. So thank you for getting locked up.
Starting point is 01:50:50 Let's make some noise for that. Yo, they sent me the script and everything to jail thinking I would get out on top, studying it. But in the back of my mind, I was like, yo, I was studying this shit
Starting point is 01:51:03 for enough of it. I'm not getting the fuck out of town. Nah, listen, when they gave me the script, it was Pedro. And I said, I can't not fuck it up with this. You want to hang out with me? Because I knew you already. They wrote it for you. So I told the director, if you don't come hang out with me for three days, I'm not doing it.
Starting point is 01:51:21 Busted on him. Yeah, and he came hang out with me for three days. And we just kept talking about, this nigga's a poyo loco. I'm not doing it. Busted on me. Yeah, and he came hang out with me for three days and we just kept talking about this nigga's a poyo loco. We ain't never say... Like, name us a poyo loco. We just like... That nigga's a poyo loco.
Starting point is 01:51:35 So the director, he just got busy with him and just, he named me a poyo loco. And you always tell me, nigga, you know I took your part in the movie. You always say that shit. I apologize, my nigga. It's cool, man. But you made me a star. Thank you for getting locked up. But not like that.
Starting point is 01:51:51 That's fucked up. No, that is fucked up. That is fucked up. But I did capitalize. I was like, there's no other Puerto Rican nigga that can do that. But you made me back in a lot of different ways. I'm saying, yeah, heavy damn different shit. You feel like you're a little in debt. Yeah you pay me back in a lot of different ways. I'm saying, you pay me down different shit.
Starting point is 01:52:06 You feel like a little in debt. Yeah, I do feel in debt. I don't like that though sometimes. I didn't want it, but you know what? I like that sometimes. I said, yo, you know what? I'm not going to let another
Starting point is 01:52:15 nigga get in. It's written for a black and borderline nigga. I was like, damn. Who else? Who else but you? Let me go up and get a black
Starting point is 01:52:23 and jafakian nigga. You know what I'm saying? Fuck the whole group Let me get a real nigga You did me good Yeah yeah yeah You did me good I upgraded your shit
Starting point is 01:52:30 I upgraded You upgraded Really? I upgraded your shit Yeah I upgraded your shit Now We should do a new movie Oh hey man
Starting point is 01:52:40 You got all this Fucking breadsticks Hook it up He got the bucket You got the line That breadsticks. Look it up. He got the fucking... You got the line. That's where you get money. Whenever the watch go proper, bread. When the watch matter, nigga broke.
Starting point is 01:52:55 When the nigga try to show off, nigga like that. When it's proper. And this is my goal. I didn't want to do it today, but I would really like To get y'all right Because In all honesty I don't think I think maybe Beans Maybe had balance in his heart Maybe he did or didn't
Starting point is 01:53:12 But At the end of the day We're all some hood niggas That made it out of the hood Yeah I agree And the thing about it is Oh
Starting point is 01:53:23 Got it Got it Come on And the thing about it is... Oh, I got it, I got it, I got it. Come on. And the thing about it is this. You got the whole part. Could he have been wrong? Maybe. Could he have been trying to be wrong?
Starting point is 01:53:38 Maybe. But the thing about it, I think that everybody that's from the hood want to see another nigga from the hood making out the hood. Maybe you took a wrong exit at some point. But I don't think that mind frame never stops.
Starting point is 01:53:56 Maybe somebody, you know what I'm saying? There's certain things that's wrong. But at the end of the day... You're in your reconciliation mode. I'm trying because you know why I fuck with this nigga And I know he would taught it because I see in his eyes They said I was Attack stone shit
Starting point is 01:54:15 You know, I'll read that yeah, I'll be mad for real. That's okay You know why but I want to I want to reconcile that I'm looking at you in your eyes I'm gonna tell you so was had, but the Tiger Bone got you. The Tiger Bone's great. It's okay. You know it's a herb. It's a herb. Let's take another shot of Tiger Bone,
Starting point is 01:54:30 God damn it. Yo, come on. I ain't taking a fucking leak. I ain't taking a shot of that. God damn it. I piss like a motherfucker, man. You pour it this time. I ain't pouring this time.
Starting point is 01:54:37 I might pour too much. Can I go take a leak, though? Yeah, if you're going to pour too much, I'll pour it. I got you. Huh? I piss, man. I've been had to piss, too.
Starting point is 01:54:43 I'm about to piss away these bottles, motherfucker. Don't do that. You got to go on, man. I got you Philly niggas like Brooklyn niggas you ever lost it Yeah, I know I realize Philly niggas like Bruce would how my favorite rapper from Brooklyn so cool piggy Don't fuck with B.I. Big Big From the rest It's not even the number two From the gate Big my number one, two, and three Oh, Dirty Bass is my second favorite rapper I'm the third
Starting point is 01:55:14 Me I don't have a second Give Bean some love He my top He my top five He my top Nah, nah, nah It's different
Starting point is 01:55:23 It's different eras It's different eras of Coochie rap Coochie rap You know what I'm saying? I'm a Coochie rap boy top different different different air is different errors of could you have could you read I'm saying I'm a Cougy rap boy who's your I'm a Cougy rap boy I'm a Cougy rap boy like you rock your granddaddy are you busy I was like this different I'm saying different all right so give me a king and back in the day came came my first time 39 to you yeah too. You can talk about Kane. I can talk about that. I saw Fat Boys when I was a kid. Kane made me mad.
Starting point is 01:55:48 I saw Fat Boys live. Dougie Fresh, Lottie Dottie, you know that shit? I saw that shit live with my mom. Live with. My mom, Civic Center. Civic Center, oh. That's back in the day. University of the City.
Starting point is 01:56:00 My mom took me. She didn't even like rap, but she knew I loved rap. And she took me to all the shows. And I couldn't even see. And your mom's is Puerto Rican, correct? My mom took me She didn't even like rap But she knew I loved rap And she took me to all the shows And I couldn't even see Your mom's is Puerto Rican My mom black She black My dad Rican
Starting point is 01:56:11 My mom black My man black My mom We'd have much My mom was like She's black She was like she's Hold on
Starting point is 01:56:17 Your dad is Puerto Rican Your mom I always thought it was the opposite Nah nah My mom black mom Me and you the same fucking way Yeah And you 39 too Tell these niggas I'm a way. Yeah, are you 39?
Starting point is 01:56:30 25th 38 just turn 30 older than you and you wait tell me you think I'm not a hunnid. It was popping a long ass time. I can't play it a long time. I can't play it a long time. You think I'm not a hunnid, though. You know what I'm saying? Kanye ain't older than me. You know who else is older than me?
Starting point is 01:56:55 Rick Ross and them. 2 Chainz. All of them are older than me. You've been popping longer. That means I'm older than me, too. You was popping right before X came out. Nah, I can't lie. I was younger.
Starting point is 01:57:05 I was younger. No, the CNN album came right before X came out. Nah, I can't lie. I was young, but I wasn't listening to X. No, the CNN album came out before X, but I wasn't popping. See, that album was popping in Philly. Yeah, but I wasn't popping. It's a different type of pop. No, no, no. I'm not saying it's a big pop. What, what, what? I never heard of DMX before I heard of you.
Starting point is 01:57:20 It ain't hard, though. I heard of you before I heard of DMX. Thank you, sir. And I'm saying this because DMX was my man. That's my man. So, I mean, that during you before I heard of DMX. Thank you, sir. And I'm saying this because DMX was my man. That's my man. So, I mean, that during your drop came out before DMX came out. That's big up DMX. He listens to the podcast a lot.
Starting point is 01:57:32 What? I'm glad, bro. The reason I said that is because I remember when DMX came out. DMX was my man when he came out. But I remember y'all's CD before I ever heard of DMX. You know what I'm saying? I remember that, too. You know what I'm saying? He always popped me and said, like, y'all was out. I listened to y'all. You know what I'm saying? I remember that, too. Like, yeah, I was probably saying,
Starting point is 01:57:46 like, y'all was out, I listened to y'all, I never heard of DMX. You know, CNN did come out. CNN did come out before DMX. You are absolutely right. I know I'm right. You're absolutely right.
Starting point is 01:57:53 You know you're a hip-hop shit. So now, who do you listen to? You want to take a shot and then you want me to ask you this question? Yeah, let's do that. Let's do the shot first?
Starting point is 01:58:01 It's going to be funny if I'm going to name somebody that you're not going to think I listen to, man. All right, cool. Out of the house. All right, cool. All right. All right, for the record, this is my last shot.
Starting point is 01:58:10 I can't do no more. I'm with Philly niggas. I know y'all shoot niggas. I'm a shooter. That's why I related to Philly early. That's why I was in that store. I listen to a lot of Philly rappers.
Starting point is 01:58:22 Okay. Now, I ain't going to say Philly rappers. I listen to Drake, man. You listen to Drake? Yeah Philly rappers Okay Now I ain't gonna say Philly rappers I listen to Drake man You listen to Drake? Yeah I think you do Now what happened Because
Starting point is 01:58:30 At the end of the day When I look on the internet A lot of the times I seen Meek Mill It was with you Yeah I was like One of the first people That ever
Starting point is 01:58:40 You know what I mean Gripped him up Whatever you know what I'm saying Grip him up What does that mean? You gave him the hammers? No he was a kid. No, he was a dope.
Starting point is 01:58:46 He was a rapper since I knew him. He always was a rapper. Dopest rapper since you knew him? No, he wasn't as good as he is now, but he got good by leaps and bounds every month. He took it serious, you know what I'm saying? Right. He was focused as a youngin', you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:58:57 Okay. So, man, see, like... Be back on and take a piss. It's okay. See how you're saying about, like, me and Beans can fix our stuff? No, I think it's too far for me, kind of.
Starting point is 01:59:06 But with Meek, it ain't that serious, for real. Right. So what happened? I just thought that he should have did different stuff for the city.
Starting point is 01:59:11 That's not my place to think that. But as a person, I think he's like my brother. I think he should have done more stuff for the youngins in Philly and all that
Starting point is 01:59:18 because he's from Philly. You know what I'm saying? But then he talked to me like he became a star. He thought he was a star to me. You know what I'm saying? Became me a star to you.
Starting point is 01:59:26 A person that's like your old head for real. Right. I mean, but. What? It ain't nothing deep, though, because I love him for real. You know what I'm saying? It's good to hear you say that. It ain't like, oh, I can't see nothing bad about you.
Starting point is 01:59:36 So what was the exact problem, though? He just became Hollywood. I'm a real nigga from the streets, so Hollywood and me don't mix. All right. That's all. It ain't like a big thing. Mind you, I could have been a dick rider. I'm like, yo, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:59:46 I don't do that. Like, Beans tried to say I tried to start a controversy. Why not diss Meek instead of Beans if I'm in a controversy? All right. You know what I'm saying? He way, you know what I'm saying, on the tip like that. But no, like, it ain't no big deal because I think, man, it's just conversation. Right.
Starting point is 01:59:59 It's going to be conversation. We're going to be back, like, boo. You know what I mean? Like, that's my bro, so it ain't no big deal. Right. Right. Gross. So, um, I listen to be in conversation. We're going to be back like, boo, you know what I mean? That's my bro, so it ain't no big deal. Right. Right. So, I listen to A.R. Ab.
Starting point is 02:00:10 Mmm. Yeah, I listen to A.R. Ab. I listen to like, I listen to Meek too. I listen to old Meek, Flemish too. Mmm.
Starting point is 02:00:18 You know what I mean? I listen to Drake too. I like Drake, not because, I don't like to sing as Drake, but when he rap, and I like that he don't try to be something that he not.
Starting point is 02:00:26 He just be him. He be on. He never say he a gangster. He ain't never say he gonna shoot you. He just say I'm a slutty's hoes. I'm a sing to him. And I'm. Hey, bitches.
Starting point is 02:00:32 I like it, bro. Yeah. I like it. I like it. I like it. Yeah. Yo, listen. I'm giving Coca back his chains.
Starting point is 02:00:38 Ever since I wore his chains, Matt beefed me a star. I need to roll it. I need to bring up Coca. I need to roll it. Yeah. Let me bring you a rollie. I'm going to give you back your chain. And I want everybody to know the next kid I need a rollie. I need a big old coca. I need a rollie. Yeah, let me bring you a rollie. I'm going to give you back your chance.
Starting point is 02:00:46 And I want everybody to know the next kid coming out of Philly, the hottest nigga in Philly. The hottest nigga coming out of Philly. Butter Knife. Butter Knife? Who's that? You want to say
Starting point is 02:00:54 y'all don't know him? See, I'm in the streets, so I always know who hottest nigga is. I'm the first one that told him about me. I'm the first one that told the people about me.
Starting point is 02:01:00 You know what I'm saying? And when you say you're in the streets, you're saying nobody else in state property has ever been in the streets? Cracks be in it. I'm talking about right now. They've been in the streets, but not like right now They've been in the streets, but I like me up in the streets all night They go my patient with our own nice stunting and I'm on the street on the bus. I'm honest
Starting point is 02:01:12 This is what I tell niggas. I tell niggas you might have had the better work to me You might have had better clientele than me, but you ain't gonna stay outside as long exactly You were late to that and I'm bringing you ain't going to stay outside as long as me. Exactly. You relate to that? And I'm bringing it to the people. Because I stay outside all night. All night. I have candlelight dinners on the mailbox.
Starting point is 02:01:35 That's who I am, nigga. That's that shit you're talking right there. That's who I am, nigga. I don't know. I don't know. That's who I am, nigga. That's why. Yeah, yeah, of course this nigga is better than me with lyrics. This nigga is better than me with whatever. You ain why. Yeah, yeah, of course. This niggas is better than me with lyrics. This niggas is better than me, whatever.
Starting point is 02:01:47 You ain't staying outside, though, Sly. Sly, I'm going to stay out all night. Yo, listen. If you ask the average nigga. And I'm out there all night. See, I tell you, it's hard to get your city without no manager, without nothing. To have your city and you ask the average nigga, who got this city right now? They're going to say me.
Starting point is 02:02:06 No, no. They did say you already. They They gonna say me No no They did say you already They gonna say me They did say you already sir In case you didn't know Let's make some noise For all skin on That's why I want you to have your city
Starting point is 02:02:18 Without the negative Wait when the negative About to be over Yeah let's get that negative out I need 72 more hours Of negative And then it's over So to be over. Yeah, let's get that negative out of here. This is the R&R. I need 72 more hours of negative, and then it's over. So, like, Wednesday, the negative over. Yeah, let's get that out of there. Because you know why?
Starting point is 02:02:32 I know Beans love you. I'm going to keep it 100. He might not have made the right decisions. Sometimes you're not going to make the right decisions. I usually don't make the right decisions. But I sat there. I seen him speak about his artist. And this is back then.
Starting point is 02:02:48 I'm not telling you. I'm talking to you recently. And I know. But everybody make mistakes. I know what you're going to go with. But just hear me out. Just hear me out. I 100% think Means loves you.
Starting point is 02:03:02 I think he made maybe a couple of mistakes. But at the end of the day it's just like me trash I can sit there and just hate trash and hate combat jack for the rest of my life but you know what I choose to do
Starting point is 02:03:13 I choose to hug them niggas and I choose to give them niggas fives and tell them niggas you know it's all love and you know what I choose to give money somewhere else
Starting point is 02:03:23 and if I can involve them a little bit I will but if I can involve them a little bit, I will. But if I can't, they already understand. And that's what I think you should do. I think you so big. I think you so big right now. Like, I'm talking about beyond this. Like, I know what's going on.
Starting point is 02:03:37 That's my job. My job now is to know what's going on. And when I say who's running Philly, niggas told me who's running Philly. You understand? So, it would probably even make you look bigger. Even if you want to still hold on to it, just letting it go and saying,
Starting point is 02:03:55 you know what, Beans? But see how you just worded that? I worded it nice. The way you just worded that? Beans, I love you. Yeah. You just wear the jacket. I don't wear the jacket. Come on. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you.
Starting point is 02:04:08 I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you.
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Starting point is 02:04:11 I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you.
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Starting point is 02:04:12 I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you.
Starting point is 02:04:13 I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love ain't happen. Yeah, I understand what you're saying. Exactly. Like, I'm not, listen, with
Starting point is 02:04:26 trash, I love trash. There's niggas that came up to me and said, why the fuck are you around this nigga? And I said, because that nigga gave me that opportunity. And I didn't care. And did things happen after that? Yep. It did. And it did him wrong. But I still accept that nigga because if it
Starting point is 02:04:42 wasn't for him, if it wasn't for Pone waiting for me i'm gonna keep it 100 pwn had the deal before me pwn actually had the deal and said you know what i'm gonna wait for my homie now people could probably sit back and say oh that's because pwn wanted to be he didn't want to be a solo artist never and you could say that and then but i don't care about that. The thing is, had Paul not did that, and had Traj not waited for him, and then the lawyer not waited, I wouldn't be here.
Starting point is 02:05:13 I understand. So fuck it. It's just like, at the end of the day, I'd rather be the bigger man. Reggie O'Sears, Combat Jack, who was the lawyer who actually jerked me, he sat right where you sitting at And I forgave him I sat there because you know why I forgave him Because he manned up as a man
Starting point is 02:05:30 And said he did do what's wrong And then he came here and he sat here And it's like Why can't you hold on to something If you pop it You pop it You don't need that drama Regardless of what You pop it. You don't need that drama regardless of what. You pop it.
Starting point is 02:05:47 You're already doing your thing. I don't listen to the streets like how a person look at Young Dolph or a person look at A Boogie. That's who you are for Philly right now. It might make you even look bigger. You just say, you know what?
Starting point is 02:06:04 Beans, I forgive you. Beans, I forgive you. Oh, God damn it bigger You just say you know what Beans I forgive you Beans I forgive you Oh god damn it You just that crazy Let's make some noise Let's make some noise Yo you know how you squash the beans again Yo be crack
Starting point is 02:06:16 Be crack Now what you gonna do Now cause be crack I'm gonna be honest with you I don't got no problems man What's up I'm gonna be honest with you Be crack
Starting point is 02:06:24 What's up Like in my going to be honest with you. P. Crash. What's up? Like, in my opinion, you're a superstar. Me too. You're a superstar. Appreciate y'all, man. Thank y'all, man. Because you light-skinned. We both.
Starting point is 02:06:35 We both nigga-reagin', but I got the lightest shade. But you light-skinned. You could have been Albie Shaw. Yeah. What happened? Why you not Albie Shaw, Slimey? I don't know, man. You're supposed to be Albie Shaw. I got the Albie Shaw look, but I. Look at your girl. I ain't got the Albie Shaw? I don't know, man. You're supposed to be Albie Shaw.
Starting point is 02:06:45 I got the Albie Shaw look. Look at your curls. I got the Albie Shaw look. Look at your curls one more time. Look at the Albie Shaw curls. Yo, I ain't got the Albie Shaw attitude, though. You know what I'm saying? I'm from Southern Montgomery, man.
Starting point is 02:06:58 And you like black girls too much. That's what happened. I do. That was your downfall. Yeah, only, yeah, only. You like black girls too much. Now, let's edit this out. I do, yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:05 That ain't sound right. I do. That ain't sound right. That was your downfall. Yeah, only, yeah, only. Those black girls, too much. Now, let's edit this out. I do, yeah. That ain't sound right. I do. That ain't sound right. That ain't sound right. I'm sorry. But you got the Albie Shaw curls. You definitely edited that out. I was like, fuck.
Starting point is 02:07:15 What's up? Because I ain't word that right. You know what I mean. Like, I mean. Yeah, they'll be right picking it. Yeah, I mean, like, you were supposed to be, like, you know, white girls. Didn't you fuck them? What's that, bitch? M.I.A.? I ain't fucking no M.I.A. No, I ain't fucking're supposed to be like, you know white girls Some real shit man, I don't know, man. It's just weird with me.
Starting point is 02:07:48 I'm weird, man. I grew up in a certain era of rap, you know what I'm saying, where it's though. I was influenced by people that made me want to rap, you know what I mean? That's what made Pete crack. Like me? Like growing up from the rip, like I'm old, you know what I'm saying? I'm 39. I'll be 39. So I grew up on.
Starting point is 02:08:04 I'm 39 right now, nigga. Yeah So I grew up on. I'm 39 right now, nigga. Yeah, I grew up on Big Daddy Kane, Koogee Rap, Run DMC, Ultra Magnetic, all that dope shit. You know what I'm saying? All that dope shit. So I grew up on that shit. So as times changed and as we progressed, like, I was still inspired as Dots FX and throughout all the times, Mobb Deep. I'm a big Mobb Deep fan. Ray Quan
Starting point is 02:08:30 and Ghost and shit. I'm heavy on that. So when it changed, I only wanted to rap because them dudes was rapping and they made me want to rap. I wanted to be like them. You know what I'm saying? It was competitive. They set a bar, but now the bar, the bar just got, it got so low that I can't,
Starting point is 02:08:50 there's no competition. And I rap so good. You know what I'm saying? I rap too good. You know what I'm saying? My man told me, my man said, yo, you rap too good. You got to rap a little less. I'm like, what the thing?
Starting point is 02:09:00 I can't rap less. I know what he mean. My man, Honey Luck was like Was like yo We was in the studio He's like yo You rapping too good Man you gotta dumb it down I'm not really I don't think I'm interested
Starting point is 02:09:10 In dumbing it down dog I don't know I think I'm I'm gonna slide to the side Real quick You know what I'm saying Cause I ain't gonna dumb it down Cause I grew up on this shit
Starting point is 02:09:18 I respect it You know what I'm saying So yeah Both of y'all was on the The The rock When the rock was the dynasty. Yeah, but that's the rock, but right now,
Starting point is 02:09:29 like say Desiigner got the Panda, I got the best Panda remix. Oh, swingin' and shit, swingin' and shit. It's on YouTube, Oskeno Panda, just put that in. I mean, I'm a new Oskeno, I'm better than I used to be, way better, you know what I'm saying? But let me ask you this. What was your best Rockefeller moment?
Starting point is 02:09:48 When I got to sing a solo song on State Probably 2 CD. Been down too long. You know what I mean? It was hard to get. You know, seven people on a group
Starting point is 02:09:56 to get a solo song is hard. So that was my favorite moment right there. Don't you almost spill the champagne? No, I don't spill champagne, buddy.
Starting point is 02:10:03 Look at this. Good, good. Do your Fred Astaire shit. Fred Astaire. That's how they do it in France. Go aim the game. Let's go hit. There you go.
Starting point is 02:10:15 This is the show you really get to listen to. There you go. Look, this is how they get. Big thing. Big thing. Big thing. This is how they pour it in France. See, niggas got to start traveling.
Starting point is 02:10:27 This wouldn't be abnormal at all to y'all niggas. Look at that. Look at that. That's perfect. Look at that. Y'all perfectly on porn that shit. Look at that. Let's call it PC.
Starting point is 02:10:34 You know what I'm saying? Let's call it PC. You might as well make up a little dictionary with all your little shit. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You listen. No, no.
Starting point is 02:10:44 What you're saying, though, as far as the best rocker for the moment, you're dead no, but no, look, what you're saying though, as far as the best Rockefeller moment, you're dead to him, but I thought of a moment though. What is your best Rockefeller moment, P. Craig?
Starting point is 02:10:51 This is one of them because there was a lot of moments. You know what I'm saying? And you had a big up Rockefeller. No, no, it was hell.
Starting point is 02:10:57 It was hell. Trust me. All right, so give me your best. Nigga, look, so don't get it fucked up. I don't want this shit
Starting point is 02:11:02 to look all negative and shit. It does look negative. You've been negative all day No I have not No Cause you know what I mean In my mind
Starting point is 02:11:09 Cause I'm very I'm a very emotional person too You know what I'm saying So me too I spit out my shit Like this is like Displayed They can hear all the good shit later
Starting point is 02:11:18 But right here On this platform I'm gonna talk about the shit That you ain't never heard before Go ahead But anyway The most inspirational times for me Was like, it was ill because I was a kid that came from North, right? And I used to pray to God, like, yo, God, please.
Starting point is 02:11:35 Jesus or Allah? Like, yo. And I had no God. You know what I'm saying? I just God. I always had a, since I was a kid, I always had a relationship with God. I ain't know about religions and stuff. I just always used to always just talk like my conscience and you know what i'm saying i was sitting i'd be crying and i'd be like why i'm crying you know what i'm saying but i was so
Starting point is 02:11:53 passionate about what i was doing we ain't got no insurance but look but but when it happened you know what i'm saying when it happened it got so ill, when we was there, it was dope to see like, like, like people like Jay-Z just call your phone like, yo, crack. He'll get,
Starting point is 02:12:09 he call my phone, just like, like how you, who said, who said that? One time, someone, oh,
Starting point is 02:12:13 you said that when Jay called your phone. Right? When he called your phone, you used it. No, he called your phone, you used it.
Starting point is 02:12:18 He was like, you're like, oh, who the fuck, who the fuck is this? I hung up and shit. So, I got a call one day.
Starting point is 02:12:22 Hey, Pedro. I'm like, hello? Hey, yo, yo, what you doing, man? Like, yo, who's this? Like, who this? Can you take off your hat for a second? Nah, I ain't taking my shit off.
Starting point is 02:12:33 Nah, my shit don't come off. You really Puerto Rican. Yeah, nah, I'm popping it out. Nah, it ain't happening. Let the people see you Puerto Rican, please. That's the next chapter. The niggas think that you, like, you know, they think you a nega reato. They don't think that.
Starting point is 02:12:48 But the next interview. Come on. You got to show them. You got to show them. Anyway, you made me forget my story, yo. Purposely. Purposely. Anyway, anyway, anyway.
Starting point is 02:12:59 Call your phone. He got the phone. JC, call your phone. We was on a, like, Rockefeller phone. We was on a Rockefeller tour. We was on a Rock the Mic tour. And I was on the run. I was on the run. I had no passport or nothing.
Starting point is 02:13:12 So they went to like, they was going to Ireland or some shit. We were going to fucking Europe or some shit the next day. And I had no passports. I had to fall back. So this was the last day. Called my phone. Yo, Pedro, where you at, man? I'm like, hello? Yo, at man I'm like hello Yo Pedro
Starting point is 02:13:27 I'm like who this He's like it's Jay I roll with it though I roll with it I'm like alright What's up man Yo come here You hungry man
Starting point is 02:13:37 Come downstairs man You were skinny back then I was skinny boy Yeah yeah But But that That Around that time,
Starting point is 02:13:45 when I think of the times like when she was ill, that meant a lot, yo. Like, he was like, yo, come downstairs. We about to go eat downstairs. And I called my mom. I'm like, yo, mom.
Starting point is 02:13:54 Yo, Jay-Z just called me. He was like, yo, come downstairs. We about to go eat. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It was good times, man. Talk about the good times, man.
Starting point is 02:14:02 I mean, all of it was good. Except for the part that I stole. You know what I'm saying? All of it was good. Except for the part that I stole. It was good times, man. Talk about the good times, man. I mean, all of it was good. And you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? All of it was good. I know. It was good. I'm from the rep. You got to think.
Starting point is 02:14:11 I'm from the hood, too. You know what I'm saying? I'm not from that part of the house. I want to talk about the bad times. How many? No, no, no. You got to think about it. You got to think about it.
Starting point is 02:14:17 First of all, I got some bad shit. I got some that had no money. Yeah, what did you get locked up for? Because that's... If you didn't get locked up for that, I wouldn't... I kept getting the gun cases, man. I wouldn't be who I was at. Gun cases, guns. Let's pick up your piece
Starting point is 02:14:28 that you got locked up for that made me your state property too. This is what happened, this is what happened. Yo, around that time when I got signed, This is when you got locked up
Starting point is 02:14:35 for state property too? Yeah, when I got signed, when I got signed, when I got signed, it happened so fast and shit that I was still in the block and they gave me like 60,000 Like 60,000 advance
Starting point is 02:14:48 How much did they give you? A bean? What that mean? A hundred 99 too Y'all niggas is rich In the hood that's rich They got 60 and a hundred
Starting point is 02:15:03 Anyway they gave me 60 though But 60 was cool But I was still in the hood, that's rich. In the hood, that's rich. They got 60 and 100. All right, anyway, they gave me 60, though. But 60 was cool, but I was still in the hood, though. In the 90s? This is the 90s? Yeah, yeah. No, it was 2000. That's ballin', nigga. You talking about?
Starting point is 02:15:14 Yeah, it was still ballin'. You got a big rockin' fella off, man. I'm going to be honest. All right, let's go. You got Big D and D-Mob right now. All right, but look, there's a thing, though. I had a video on TV and shit and I ran into I was still in the hood though.
Starting point is 02:15:26 I had hood paper. You know what I'm saying? We was good. I could do whatever I wanted to but I was still in the hood. I couldn't buy no big crib yet.
Starting point is 02:15:33 So niggas came to my crib and tried like I remember. They did the same thing to me. Niggas tried to kidnap me. In the crib? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:42 I'm in the crib like four hours. They came to you? What happened? You know it's definitely the same thing. Well they tried to kidnap crib like they came to you what happened you know it's not really the same thing well they they tried to kidnap him and sell him to you no no right before his dream happened they tried to come in my crib it was a shootout in my crib oh they gotta come to your crib yeah and I was you know I've never moved in to Philly yeah I was in South Philly yeah
Starting point is 02:16:02 it means trying to play low they came in my crib too no but look in South Philly. People was in South Philly. Yeah. It means China people play low. They came to my crib too. Nah, but look. Look, niggas try to come to my crib and shit. But I caught the wave and shit before that. And I let Jay know and shit. I was like, yo, Jay. I was like, yo.
Starting point is 02:16:14 I set up with me. I called Lenny. I was like, yo, I need to talk to Jay. Shit's serious right now. All right. Last night, niggas came to my house. They ripped my screen door off. And I had two guys. My guy and my man Don P left my screen door off and I had two guys
Starting point is 02:16:25 my gat and my man Don P left a gat at the crib I had both gats I was in my boxers and shots fucking this bitch I was on some I was sitting there
Starting point is 02:16:34 on some real militant it was really it was going down and I told Jay the story and shit and he's just like he's looking at me the whole time
Starting point is 02:16:42 he's just like this he's like he's like word he's looking at me the whole time. He's just like this. He's like They try to kill me there's about this coming crazy like dance deep That's it. That's it, that's it right there. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 02:17:10 That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 02:17:18 That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's nigga. I'm a little fucking over here. Nigga, I'm moving this shit right here.
Starting point is 02:17:28 I got it. You're talking so fast, I ain't catch on. I got it. I said, I'm going to bang that shit. I'm going to come. You know what I mean? Yeah, but why is the violence so crazy in Philly? Well, I can say it was partly my fault because I was flashy at the time, like real flashy. No, but why is it so crazy like that in Philly?
Starting point is 02:17:43 Because everybody's poor. Everybody's poor? See, New York products cost $10,000 to live in. I mean, y'all rent is crazy. Y'all gotta have some thousands somewhere. Philly shit costs $300 and niggas getting put out. $300 and you get put out. So it's a different situation of poverty.
Starting point is 02:18:00 The poverty is way outlandish. It's just outlandish out there. I heard you say on Tax Tone Podcast, you say you could buy a whole block in Philly for 50,000.
Starting point is 02:18:10 Yeah, houses cost me 10,000. What? You know what I'm saying? But the neighborhood you in, you don't even want to come there. You have a house, but shit,
Starting point is 02:18:17 you don't want to come there if you ain't from around there. No, but you buy it, and you fix it up, and you just leave it there and bring it out. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:18:22 but you never know who want to live there. You might not even want to live there. Because if you ain't from around there, you don't know what's going on, don't come there. That shit is going down. You never know who killed who, brother, cousin. You know what I'm saying? You can't just stand by niggas.
Starting point is 02:18:35 You got to be. You know what I'm saying? So, like, it's cheap, but you got to know. You got to be from there. You know, in New York, a hotel room only, like, the size of a closet costs $500. You know what I'm saying? You come to Philly, you get a hotel room only like the size of a closet cost 500 You know say you come to Philly get a hotel room for $60. That shit is like a hotel rooms In New York in New York rent everything is crazy in New York like it's
Starting point is 02:19:01 Too high. I mean, that's what I know. You got a suit fucked up Now this is like a ball. Yeah, but this is a second ball. I asked you I asked if you want up, yo. Nah, nah, it's a sack of bones. Yeah, but just pick. It's a sack of bones. I asked you. I asked you if you want it. But be correct. You're a Puerto Rican nigga. This is where you go in. You're a Puerto Rican nigga. You're a drunk.
Starting point is 02:19:14 How did you, who, me? No, you're asking me. No, you're a Puerto Rican nigga. How did you fill in? Because now your family, right, you just say your father's Puerto Rican. Your father's the controller of the household how did you feel in the predominantly black neighborhood with being Puerto Rican because I ain't really I never really adapted to my Spanish side really like that it was kind of weird to me like they wasn't cool but my black
Starting point is 02:19:44 side my mom's side, they was like, my grandma and everybody, they was like super cool. So you went there for Thanksgiving? All the time. Like, that was the place to go. You didn't eat Benin.
Starting point is 02:19:53 Nah, I didn't, yeah. You gotta eat Benin. But he got a good mom. He got a nice mom. But look, yo, yeah, yeah. My mom, my mom, my mom, my mom love her.
Starting point is 02:20:02 My mom black. My mom love her. Oh, shit, my mom know what's going on. She going to see this podcast. She know everything that's going on. But I ain't know my Spanish side and shit. They wasn't cool.
Starting point is 02:20:14 You still don't know your Spanish side. I really don't know them to this day like that. We got to correct that. We're not tight like that. But I still love them. You know what I'm saying? I love them. That's who my nephew is.
Starting point is 02:20:24 He never been to Puerto Rico. But you can't blame us. You know what I'm saying? I love him. That's who my nephew is. Yeah. He never been to Puerto Rico. But you can't blame us, you know what I'm saying? I've been to Puerto Rico. I'm blaming y'all. And I ain't speak no Spanish, though, at all. I don't speak Spanish either. I can't even talk to no girl. Go out there and swing your balls in the sand. But I can't even talk to no girl.
Starting point is 02:20:36 Your balls, when you're in the sand, feels great, fantastic. Fantastic, y'all. You got to swing your balls in the sand. And then the fact your Puerto Rican essence just hits you when your balls hit the sand. It's like, oh, shit, I am from here. All right. You got to let your balls hit the sand. But if you don't let your balls.
Starting point is 02:20:53 I'm sorry. Enough of Puerto Rico. But don't worry. This is what we're doing. When your balls hit the sand in Puerto Rico, everything is all right. All right. You got to start. All right.
Starting point is 02:21:02 Correct. Because I think, Oskino, believe me, I think everybody in state property think that you were supposed to be the star. Yo, you still on that? Yeah, because you're my friend. Well, I say it to you every day. Yeah, he's talking. You say it to him every day?
Starting point is 02:21:15 But yo, you know what, though? He do. He say that all the time. You were supposed to be the star. When he first came on. Was it PCP? No, check it out. No, it wasn't.
Starting point is 02:21:23 It wasn't. It wasn't. Check it out, though. That's the thing. But you was fucking with Lean, too. Let's keep it real. No, I never fucked with Lean. I heard you fucking with Lean it out. No, it wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't. Check it out, though. That's the thing. But you was fucking with Lean, too. Let's keep it real. No, I never fucked with Lean. I heard you fucking with Lean, too.
Starting point is 02:21:28 No, I didn't. You were with Beans. Beans? Beans? Beans? Beans? Beans fucking with Lean? I had a couple shots of Tussnacks and shit.
Starting point is 02:21:36 But once in a while. That means you was fucking with Lean. But go ahead. That was the yellow sometimes. But never. The yellow. What's the difference between the yellow and the pink? The yellow and the purple.
Starting point is 02:21:46 Purple, I'm sorry. Purple, yeah, yeah. Break it down for us. Purple was like a slow motion. Yellow, yellow, yellow. Purple was like a downer, like super down. You're going to sleep. If you don't fuck with it like that, you're going to bed.
Starting point is 02:21:58 But isn't it the high of lean that you fight in your sleep? That's the one that they love, yeah. That you fight in your sleep. But the yellow You can stay up You can stay up You can stay up on yellow You can not up
Starting point is 02:22:08 But yellow is like a Philly thing Niggas don't fuck with yellow Yeah I know Yellow not that popular Nah Yellow is not that popular Yellow is stronger than purple Listen nigga
Starting point is 02:22:16 He ain't been left For like a half an hour So good Oh oh oh Oh don't do no drugs Yo So what The yellow keep you up
Starting point is 02:22:24 Yeah Yeah but the purple Take you down Where you from Where you from Hold on, hold on. Do no drugs. Yo, so what? Y'all don't keep you up? Yeah. Yeah, but the purple will take you down. Where you from? Where you from? From the bean, man. From the bean, South. I wasn't, yeah. Y'all sip out there?
Starting point is 02:22:32 Yeah. Huh? Y'all sip out there? Y'all sip? Yeah. It's not heavy like down South down. No, because I'm 39. Let's get this.
Starting point is 02:22:40 We were drinking weed before I heard about it down South. I'm a high tech, man. A lot of people say Texas, Houston is who invented it. That man done. Time out. Let me give you all your props. But then a lot of people say Philly is the actual real lean spot. They called it
Starting point is 02:23:05 pancakes and serves when I was a kid. Yeah. What? Pancakes and serves they called it when I was a kid when I was eight years old.
Starting point is 02:23:10 Pancakes and serves. Pills and serve. Pills and serve, yeah. V's they called it. It was V's and purple. Yeah, but this thing though. If you're from Philly
Starting point is 02:23:20 then you probably can claim it. If you're from Texas or whatever you probably can claim that Because Texas didn't Fuck the yellow
Starting point is 02:23:27 We don't know So y'all discovered the yellow Man Since I was a kid Niggas been drinking lean My aunt used to drink This shit when I was like 85
Starting point is 02:23:36 I like 11 My aunt used to drink purple So I don't know when Houston started When down south started But they been They called it pancakes and services When I was a kid
Starting point is 02:23:44 Wow Man V's in purple Because I was a kid. Wow. Man, V's in purpose. Because I heard a lot of people from Philly could say that it came. And that was the crazy shit. Nah, I would never say that. Who do we have on here? 2 Chainz. 2 Chainz actually alluded to it coming from Houston.
Starting point is 02:24:00 And as soon as we put out that interview, everybody came at us and said, Yo, boy. You know what they call you, boy? Yo, boy. Yo, boy. Yo, boy. You already know that shit. That's probably how he knew it.
Starting point is 02:24:15 You know what I'm saying? No, no. I'm saying that. It might have happened at the same time. 2 Chainz too young to even know. Right. Because when it came out. He was 8.
Starting point is 02:24:24 When I was 8 and 7, 8 years old, he was eight. When I was eight years old, he was taking it. When I was eight and seven, eight years old, he was taking it. My brother, I got a big brother that's like 12 years older than me.
Starting point is 02:24:32 He was taking serving pancakes when I was seven years old. So it's two chains. Even if he had age, he was nine somewhere and where he from, New York? No, Atlanta.
Starting point is 02:24:40 Atlanta? So he wouldn't know. Right. No, but I'm saying that culture is so, people, you see, rappers in Texas
Starting point is 02:24:48 start talking about it first. Right. Niggas, the thing they was taking that was killing people going to jail for life. You know what I'm saying? Going to sleep
Starting point is 02:24:55 and killing them. Yeah, they got to kill you. Because that's the effect of lean, right? We lost a lot of names to that shit. I take shit.
Starting point is 02:25:04 You just crazy on your own? I'm just crazy on just normal. See, crack with me for almost 20 years. You just crazy sober? Yeah. But you had to get high
Starting point is 02:25:13 at one point. No, I never. I was in jail and I was home. Yo, yo, look, let me tell you, it be sometimes we have like a big
Starting point is 02:25:20 pool party and shit, Rockefeller days and shit, and then we're in a big mansion and shit with a pool, and shit. And then we're in a big mansion and shit. We got a pool. And we all be getting shitty. I get fucked up, dog. I get shitty.
Starting point is 02:25:31 Like, I drink all types. I drink champagne. I drink gin. I drink Telsport with you. I drink old... Wait, Telsport? What is that? That's some old
Starting point is 02:25:41 wine. I drink anything, you know what I'm saying? if I'm in the mood. We out in different places and I'll be on the poolside reading a book on some crazy other shit. He didn't even read the book.
Starting point is 02:25:56 What are you doing? That's how I get there. Let's make some noise. Yo! I ain't reading a book. It's so funny to see people on the internet say I get high because like anybody know me like. No, they was killing you. They was killing you on tax.
Starting point is 02:26:10 But it's cool because at the end of the day, I rather them think I get high than me really get high. My mom and pop get high. I never even smoked a cigarette ever. Yo, out of state property, he did. You smoked a cigarette on me. Yo, no, look, look, look. He's the most. Oh, you want one more shot of Taga Ball?
Starting point is 02:26:22 He's the most drunk street nigga. Just to even it out. Just to even it out. Last shot of Taga Ball. No, they just, you know, they never see somebody that's real. He's the most he's the most Listen, I'm going to squash the beat. Let me ask you a question now. You can ask me any question you want. How are you going to act when you get $100 million? I don't want $100 million. They're going to give it to you. You're not going to say no? No, I don't want it. You're going to give your cousin $30 million?
Starting point is 02:26:53 No, it's my nephew. Nephew? Yeah, exactly. All right. You're going to give the credit. You're going to give the credit. I'm coming down here. I don't want to get...
Starting point is 02:27:01 After 2030, I'll cut it off. Everything else It goes to other niggas Go ahead Give it to them That's the shit I say It goes to other niggas So we all go crazy together
Starting point is 02:27:11 So if I go crazy Yo, Kwee Cracker Man, thank you for coming out No problem You never looked at more Spanish In your life Please take off your hat Please, for one second
Starting point is 02:27:21 Leave the fuck alone Show the people Your name is Show the people Your name is Baúl. Nah, nah, nah, man. Show the people your name is Pedro. Put me a shot, nigga. Pedro for real. My name is Pedro Zayas.
Starting point is 02:27:31 Pedro Zayas. Put me a shot, yo. All right, cool. That's a suck-ass shot. I want to give my shout-outs, too, man. Can I give my shout-outs? Come on, man. You can do whatever the fuck you want.
Starting point is 02:27:38 Suck a shot, man. I want you to shout-out my man. You want a real shout-out? Yeah, man. I'm saying 365 South, man. Y'all made my boy show me real love, man. They met me and all that. You know Show I'm saying 365 South man y'all make my boys from Connecticut man they show me real love man so that they met me
Starting point is 02:27:47 and all that you know what I'm saying and shout out Butterknife man Johnny J Butterknife that's the new that's the A boogie
Starting point is 02:27:52 that's gonna be that's gonna be the superstar from out of Philly and I mean Johnny J you know what I mean that's the CEO boy that's the CEO right there can we wrap this up
Starting point is 02:27:59 Oskeno Advertiser 5 Advertiser 6 is everywhere iTunes Tidal Streaming Spotify so you had you had you had 6 different advertisers yeah I'm at my 7th drop this month Oskiino, Advertiser 5, Advertiser 6 is everywhere. iTunes, Tidal, Streaming, Spotify. So you had six different advertisers?
Starting point is 02:28:09 Yeah, I'm at my seventh drop this month. And P-Crack, how many mistakes you have? None. Yo, you need to fuck out, man. I had 19 mistakes. Crack 5, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6. Get the fuck out of here, dude. I'm talking that dumb shit. Oski I want the best for you, brother.
Starting point is 02:28:26 You know I want the best video on YouTube, man. I know, I know, I know. Yo, give me that last bottle. I ain't rapping with all time, my nigga. I know, thank you, brother. Thank you, thank you. Give me that last bottle. You know I ain't shitting on the kids. No, I love you, nigga.
Starting point is 02:28:36 October 2nd, TLA. I'm all for you. October 2nd, October 2nd. You want us on a thug dot? We don't dance in your videos. Come on, man. Yo. Yeah, we ain't trying to be all over. You got the right shit.
Starting point is 02:28:51 You got this talk shit platform. You know what I'm doing? You got a platform to talk shit and get paid? Yo, nah, nah. Come on. Talk to Johnny, man. We coming over here, but what we going to do? I'll let Johnny. We going to make it right with beans.
Starting point is 02:29:04 We get it right. We going to make it right with beans. We get it right. We gonna make it right with beans because that's what I want to do. Yeah. Because, you know, I want everybody to live. I want everybody to focus. I want everybody
Starting point is 02:29:13 to not hate on another nigga. That shit is stupid. Ain't no other genre in music. Hate on another genre in music. That's only us. No genre of music with slaves. No, but now we above that. So now we're all above that.
Starting point is 02:29:30 We above it, but not all of us. Not there. Exactly. So, fuck it. We could keep dwelling on that, but we can say let's keep living. Let's keep living. And that's what I want to do.
Starting point is 02:29:40 Let's keep living. Let's start the night. Let's start living the night. Exactly. I don't know what that means, but it's all great. It's all great. Let's start living the night. Exactly. I don't know what that means, but it felt great. It felt great. Let's start living the night. What'd you say? Living the night.
Starting point is 02:29:51 I worked the morning shift, though. I worked the morning shift. Living the night. I ain't living the night. Thank you, thank you, Bubblers, for coming through tonight. Thank you, Tiger Moon. Thank you for having us. I already know what's up. This is terrible.
Starting point is 02:30:09 Let's not act like this is good at all. I never told you I was good. I found a way to make you good. To me, in a way, it felt good. Millions and millions of people are going to hear this. And I want to say I love all y'all. I love all y'all, man. I love all y'all, man.
Starting point is 02:30:23 You know why I fuck with you? Because you've always been the same way, right? You know why I fuck with you even more? Because I gave you real wisdom. You know what you said? You're willing to do that. So you were willing to work it out with me. For sure.
Starting point is 02:30:39 The way you said it, though. You said it like Dr. Philbert. The nigga-reaking way. Niggas, niggas, niggas. Because you know why? Ibert, niggerican way. Niggas, niggas, niggas. Because you know why? I love y'all niggas together. Because even though y'all told me that when I seen y'all, when y'all was together, that y'all didn't really know each other. The fight was so ill that I don't even want to know the real story.
Starting point is 02:31:01 We respect each other that way. I wish I never knew the real story. We respect each other that way. I wish I never knew the real story. We respect each other enough, though. You know what I'm saying? Us growing up listening to y'all. Us listening to y'all. Like, I'm like. The respect level there.
Starting point is 02:31:14 I'm just giving it a honey, man. I confront you. But for what? Like, when I see niggas together, I was like, damn, these fully niggas will murder you. True. And they can't. You know what I'm saying? But now that, you know, 20 years passed, everybody get to say their own story.
Starting point is 02:31:33 I'm kind of disappointed. I like the real. Let me finish. You know why? Because I'm not a fake fan of y'all niggas. I'm a real fan of y'all whole movement. Nah, I don't like that book. I'm a real fan. What?
Starting point is 02:31:50 Let me hear that. I'm a real fan of y'all whole movement. And for me to look at y'all movement and you to tell me that maybe what I thought or saw wasn't real right, it bothers me. I understand what you're saying. You know what I'm saying? Because I heard the interviews I heard and when I see that I'm like damn I would really like y'all to put it back together. I think it's better
Starting point is 02:32:13 Oh, if you know the truth and then it'll be better and it'd be better later Don't think where we go to niggas be a yo crack damn man damn they be upset Yeah, niggas be like, yo, crack. Damn, man, damn. They be upset. Damn, yeah. Niggas hate it. Yo, nigga, I'm going to kick USA get some sneaks. Yo,
Starting point is 02:32:29 crack myself with the next state prop. I'm like, dog, it ain't going to happen. I'm like, damn, dog.
Starting point is 02:32:35 The nigga that worked there, he be fucked up about that. He be like, damn, man. I'm listening. For real crap, I ain't for real,
Starting point is 02:32:41 man. It's a wrap. Nobody, except for my hood. My hood love me so much that they don't give a fuck. Whoever gets me, they against them. But everybody else is like, they the same way you are. They like, they want us to fix it.
Starting point is 02:32:51 Yeah, I think I want y'all. No, we can't fix it. No, we can make it happen. No, we can make it happen. Oh, yeah, don't put that on me, Hazz. Because Philly niggas are crazy. They shoot everybody. Nah, we cool, man.
Starting point is 02:33:03 We good, man. They shoot the store. They shoot the store. They shoot the store. They not let the new niggas like that. Y'all shoot the Aki's that sell you a turkey and cheese. Y'all niggas are crazy out there. And Philly. And Philly. Yo, boy, listen. I can't thank you guys
Starting point is 02:33:16 enough, you know, for coming here and letting me bug out with y'all having fun because at the end of the day, that's all I'm doing. And, you know, obviously, you see where my heart is. I would like y'all to squash it. But I can't really get into y'all business because that's y'all business. No doubt.
Starting point is 02:33:31 You know what I'm saying? And that'd be good. That'd be all right. Yeah, you know. But what y'all going to do, what y'all going to do, I can't get into it. But what I would prefer is niggas work it out. You're a boss now The thing about once you become a boss Nobody can't make you
Starting point is 02:33:48 A staff member Cause you're a boss Even if you are a staff member later You already got a staff You're a boss You're a boss So what I'm trying to say is That's how I felt about trash.
Starting point is 02:34:06 Yeah, we had fucked up business, but we got back together and there's plenty of people who's here right now. I said, why the fuck are you fucking with that nigga? And I just wanted to appreciate the nigga who put me on because he put me on in one situation, but I got money in 17,000 more situations. So even if he put me on in a situation where it was wrong, it was like, fuck it. Who gives a fuck? Look how much I got came up anyway. So I love trash. Me personally, I love tragedy Gaddafi.
Starting point is 02:34:43 He comes back around. He comes out of jail, I'm going to accept him. I'm not telling y'all to follow me, but I'm telling you it makes me a better person. It makes me a better, whether he's right, wrong, in between or whatever, it makes me a better person
Starting point is 02:34:58 to forgive somebody who put me in the game who intentionally or maybe didn't intentionally, did me wrong. It makes me better. Because I know that his intent, whatever, was to get me on. And he accomplished that goal.
Starting point is 02:35:18 Now, what I did with the ball once I got it, was on me. So that's the only jewel I would like to give y'all. Bow Wow sat here. I told him, you know, same type of thing. And this is what I want to give y'all as hood niggas, fellow rappers, fellow niggers. I love y'all niggas.
Starting point is 02:35:47 But I don't, because in my heart, I think Beans made a mistake. I don't think Beans was trying to jerk y'all. Still accountable for the mistake, though. I understand that part. I understand that. But the thing about it, once you're doing your own thing, it don't matter.
Starting point is 02:36:02 Yeah, it don't matter. It don't matter. I understand what you're saying exactly. It don't matter. Like, once you're doing your own thing, it don't matter. It don't matter. It don't matter. I understand what you're saying exactly. It don't matter. Like, once you're doing, like, you're popping. Like, I actually did do the research. And I said, yo, what's up, niggas? Man, that nigga all running Philly.
Starting point is 02:36:16 And it's like, damn, how much iller will all be running Philly? Maybe because I had to come talk to you first. Oh, that's what I think You can talk to me period because they look at me they kind of tennis That's why we run a media now. That's why we want to meet Amazes running the building. It makes running the bruce. If you don't want a lock. in, just let me know. I'll delete your cell. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:36:47 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:36:49 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:36:49 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:36:49 You know what I'm saying? So be cracked, man. Yo, pop that bottle, man. Come on, you pop it. Let me see. Listen, Queens niggas, we don't have to pop champagne. I'm, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 02:36:58 Big champagne. You see my face? Come on, man. Really, really. Let me see. Let me see if we all feel you know what they doing. Nigga. Let me see. Listen. You already know, bro. Let me see if we all feel you know what they doing. Nigga.
Starting point is 02:37:05 Let me see. Listen. You got the game fucked up. All right. Nigga, you don't think I know how to pop bottles? How many pussy and bottles you think I've been doing?
Starting point is 02:37:14 No spill. No spill. What you think been going on these last years? I don't know. Pussy and bottles, man. All right. From Rockefeller, man.
Starting point is 02:37:22 We're going to see right now. We're going to see that Rockefeller talk right now. He put the pressure to make you feel like you might just. Look. Who am I? You up for that? Whoa, whoa, whoa. Come on.
Starting point is 02:37:32 Come on. I'm up. You want me to apologize to the land? Yeah, I wish you were. I apologize to Pete. He's deaf. This is Elliot Wilson's train. Don't you ever do rap, Radar.
Starting point is 02:37:43 Don't you ever do rap, Radar. Yo, you heard me. Come on. I'm talking about. Look,'t you ever do rap, Radar. Don't you ever do rap, Radar. Yo, you heard? This is Alia Wilson, Rap Radar. You heard the... You shouldn't have heard of them. That's their train. Leave it alone. They hot though.
Starting point is 02:38:00 What? They dope. Yeah, they are dope. Nigga, Rip Radar up in there. Listen, I said it. They dope. Yeah, they are dope. Nigga, ring it up in there. They dope. They dope. Listen, I said it. They dope. They dope. They dope. Why you want to shout, niggas, though?
Starting point is 02:38:09 They just had a street jam. No bodies. They just had a street jam. Well, big up to B. Dye and Elliot. No problem. Welcome to Play It, a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at play.it.
Starting point is 02:38:37 The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it. I'm J.R. Martinez. I'm a U.S. Army veteran myself,
Starting point is 02:39:00 and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Honor, Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Podcast. From Robert Blake, the first black sailor to be awarded the medal, to Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice. These are stories about people who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor going above and beyond the call of duty. You'll hear about what they did, what it meant, and what their stories tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding.
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Starting point is 02:41:11 founder Stephen Ranella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?
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Starting point is 02:42:42 and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with rapper N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN. But yo, Osquino, I really appreciate you listening to me. For sure. Because you know why?
Starting point is 02:43:06 You know what the rumor about you is? That you off the chain. Nobody. You don't listen to nobody. You just go out there. You retarded. I'm retarded, too. That's what it is.
Starting point is 02:43:17 I don't listen to bullshit. It's the same rumor about me, though. So when I heard it, I was like, oh, shit. Nice. I ain't like that, though. What? But like, if somebody's saying bullshit, I don't let them know. No, no, in the hood, in the hood, it was some real shit.
Starting point is 02:43:31 Niggas don't look at him like that. They love, like. Nah, but I'm saying the industry room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but it ain't like. The industry room was like, he's off the chain. Nah. Tesla.
Starting point is 02:43:42 No, but they're not wearing it like that. It's like some Regular love shit It's just that a lot of people A lot of people fake And when you pull a card They like Oh why are you saying that Nobody else would have said it
Starting point is 02:43:50 No because First of all Like you said I don't need them They don't gotta do Nothing for me When I was in the slums Without a crumb
Starting point is 02:43:56 I might have needed them Now I don't So I can say Whatever I want to say We don't need somebody You can just keep it real Can I say one thing You know what they say
Starting point is 02:44:03 They say Allah Let the people in heaven who do things for people, they can't pay back. Let's go. Go deep. So, at the end of the day, if you're already popping, fuck the past life. That's why I said it's over. And you're already popping, my nigga. This is over.
Starting point is 02:44:23 I'm going to keep it real. I did the studies. Yo, no. Oh, I'm sorry, P. I'm sorry. I said it's over. And you already popping, my nigga. This is over. I'm going to keep it real. I did the studies. Yo, no. I'm sorry, P. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, bro. Can you show the people your curls? You asked me that like five times.
Starting point is 02:44:32 I ain't doing it. Yeah, come on. Show the people your curls. My son got those curls. Come on. The makeup. The makeup. I keep them on.
Starting point is 02:44:38 I keep them on. I don't want to be on. No, no, no. Check it out. No, but look. This is the thing, though. See, I'm in support of my man O
Starting point is 02:44:46 because we ride for the same cause. We got a different approach to it, you know what I'm saying? Like, O guy's approach and I respect that even if I agree with it
Starting point is 02:44:54 or not, you know what I'm saying? But other niggas might get it fucked up like Crack Charlie, you know what I mean? I ain't, listen, that's O,
Starting point is 02:45:02 this Crack, and you know, I got my own opinion and you know, everybody that know us, like, listen, that's O, this crack, and you know, I got my own opinion. And you know, everybody that know us, like, they know I've been feeling this way, but I wouldn't do this, like, on this display, but O's just crazy like that, and he do that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:45:15 I don't think he crazy at all. No, but it's the thing, though. I just want niggas to know, like, I support my man. I support him, you know what I'm saying? And I love the whole state prop, the whole game. You support both. I support both, but there's a thing. Right now, we too old and it's too late in the game to be lying and shit.
Starting point is 02:45:31 You know what I'm saying? And let me just tell y'all something. As a person that's looking from the outside in, y'all a group that's in demand. Regardless of how y'all look at it y'all group that's in demand every time it's discrepancies or scribbles or whatever you know what I mean the scribbles
Starting point is 02:45:54 every time y'all do that let me just break it down for y'all every time y'all do that y'all take away from y'all whole legacy so if y'all was to handle it, like, in behind doors, and then really sit there,
Starting point is 02:46:11 because y'all are what y'all don't realize, the next Wu-Tang. It was Wu-Tang, champ. It was Wu-Tang, and then it was y'all. And then it was y'all. Y it was y'all Y'all kinda fucked that up And I'm
Starting point is 02:46:30 Grabbing on you I'm not saying you I'm saying It's the truth Oh you following me? But it's different kind of legacies Yeah but no No
Starting point is 02:46:39 Y'all can fix it right now Rap legacy is one legacy And make it Y'all can fix it right now And say You know what Because that's what I now and say, you know what? Because that's what I'm trying to tell you. Like, what I'm trying to tell you is, understand how you feel.
Starting point is 02:46:50 And I actually feel you. Rap legacy is one thing. But if you could be the bigger man, but you got to remember, when you come to my hood, where I'm from, and I know my hood is just my hood. I know y'all think about the world stuff, but to me, my hood is important to me because without them, if I ain't had nothing, that's a place I can go and survive. Right. You know what I'm saying? So the kids in my hood, they know. I want them to see you got to stand on what's right.
Starting point is 02:47:11 You got to be on what's right. That's true. You know what I'm saying? But the world is different. But I can't be fake to conform to a legacy that's not real. But that's true. All right. But that's like saying, yo, I'm not going to work at McDonald's because I don't want to feed my daughter.
Starting point is 02:47:27 Working at McDonald's is fake to real niggas. But working at McDonald's when your daughter needs a fucking sandwich, that shit is super real. I'm just about to do that. I'm just saying. This is what I'm saying. What I'm saying is when you enter the music business, this ain't hood no more. But you understand. Wait, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:47:48 Let me finish. This ain't hood no more. So sometimes you might have to just look to the side and just whatever. I'm not saying forgive. I'm saying you do what you want to do. I'm just playing my case and then whatever. But at the end of the day, you guys were supposed to be the next Wu-Tang but it ain't our fault you know what I'm saying okay it's different like it's like saying even
Starting point is 02:48:13 if you say right now somebody said you y'all going to 20 city tour right Beans is in charge right it might get him 13 14 000 shows might get, he might get 500. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. So the legacy, who cares about legacy if you got six sons, you got a feed. You know what I'm saying? Like you said, I would work at McDonald's for my sons. I just come out of the penitentiary, nobody gave me nothing.
Starting point is 02:48:35 You know what I'm saying? And I didn't do one yet, I did years. You know what I'm saying? I came home, I went to truck driving school, I got a barber license, I got a barber license, I can give you a fade right now. Nah, I heard that.
Starting point is 02:48:42 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? I heard that. I just attacked them. You know what I'm saying? That was hard. I was like, I just think I got a barber license. I can get your fade right now. No, I heard that. I heard that. I just attacked him. That's good. That was hard. I was like, I got a barber license.
Starting point is 02:48:48 You know how embarrassing it is to be a boy from state property driving Jags and Benz's to go walk into a truck driving school? That's the most... Your pride is you're doing it for your kids. So I understand that right now, recently,
Starting point is 02:48:59 stripped you of everything. You know what I'm saying? So the stuff you're saying is my reality. Like, it ain't like some philosophical saying. It's like what I just went through. You know what I'm saying? And nobody stuff you're saying is my reality. Like, it ain't like some philosophical saying. It's like what I just
Starting point is 02:49:06 went through. You know what I'm saying? And nobody never came and said, yo, here go 400, here go 200, here go be 50,
Starting point is 02:49:11 here go $80. You know what I'm saying? I remember those times my tuition was like $200 a week. I was like, damn, where am I going
Starting point is 02:49:16 to get $200 from? I don't want to trap my whole 24 years and not to trap. You know what I'm saying? So this recently, this not years ago, this nine months ago,
Starting point is 02:49:24 you know what I mean? I made a conscious decision, I gotta rap. I didn't want nothing to do with the rap business no more. You know what I'm saying? Crack a tiny bit, I crack. I was like, I ain't rapping no more, period. But my back was against the wall, and then what I did, God was pushing me that way, my life changed.
Starting point is 02:49:37 As soon as I dropped one drink, it just like, phew. You know what I mean? I had to cut like thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of heads to get the money, you know what I mean, in a couple weeks, you know what I'm saying? So like, I definitely, just imagine have had to cut, like, thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of heads to get the money I made, like, in a couple weeks. You know what I'm saying? So, like, I definitely, just imagine, what boss would say to him? My young boy, is the truck driver school?
Starting point is 02:49:51 Him got 200 to pay for his tuition? Let me go give him a thousand dollars. A thousand dollars would have been like 15,000 at the time. You know what I'm saying? What are you talking about? Whoever consider themselves a boss, I mean. He talking about when you was on the Rock and Roll? No, it's right now. This year. Okay. This year right here. I mean. But he told me when you was on the Rock and Roll. No, it's right now.
Starting point is 02:50:05 This year. Okay. This year right here. I start popping in February. But I start popping heavy. You know what I'm saying? Right. And you ain't have
Starting point is 02:50:14 a thousand dollars. I ain't have nothing. Wow. Because I'm cutting hair but I got eight kids. So you make it 300 a day. My kids don't,
Starting point is 02:50:22 my kids big. They like 15, 16, 17. Like Captain Crunch. Yeah, like these Jordans. Right. Back to school. Yeah. You got to give up.
Starting point is 02:50:31 You don't get nothing. You know what I'm saying? Right. So like, I'm cool with nothing as long as I'm free. I'm getting some coochie. I'm good with that. You know what I'm saying? That's all I have right there.
Starting point is 02:50:39 But that's recently this year. You know what I'm saying? This is the first year I've messed up like that. You know what I'm saying? So for somebody to say like legacy and all that, I understand. But I just came this the first year I was messed up like that I'm saying so for somebody somebody like legacy don't like I understand but I just came from the reality of like I've never seen that shit that shit is real like if the people happy to see like that could you be get money for a long time or he's down good let's keep them down in there but no I'm awesome so you know but God
Starting point is 02:51:00 like me he said yo I was trying to turn your industry. I failed. Yeah, I can't do that. Yeah. I'm just too full. I was trying to turn you in for like 10 minutes. I can't even do that. Yo, when I get rich, you know what I'm going to do? Go to every hood, get the lead of the hood. All right. We're going to have a meeting.
Starting point is 02:51:14 What kind of fucking meeting? I mean, you didn't understand. You know what I'm saying? Are we going to come on your show? Yeah, yeah. Niggas are always coming on. We're going to have a power meeting. That's going to be a power meeting right there. But listen, at the end of the day, Pete Crki you know i love both beyond but it's just like
Starting point is 02:51:29 one day i had to tell joe crack that i love the original terror score the original i'm talking about link link link where me ma. You know, I had to tell Fat Joe that. I said, I love, you know, big pun. You know, Armageddon. Armageddon, yeah. Seis. I said Tony's inside. Triple Seis.
Starting point is 02:51:55 Triple Seis. Prospect. Yeah. And I had to tell Fat Joe. I said, yo, I'm sorry, but I love the original. And Fat Joe, you know, at the time, he didn't feel it. But years later, he was like, I understood what you mean.
Starting point is 02:52:09 And I just want to tell y'all the same thing. Maybe y'all ain't gonna fuck with me right now, from what I'm saying, but I love the original state property. Alright, I understand. You know what I'm saying? I understand.
Starting point is 02:52:24 Even if you don't feel me right now at this very moment, or you don't feel me, because your fans are going to fuck with y'all niggas. Your fans are going to hit you and be like, I ain't even reading that shit. No, he was right. Yo, listen, listen, listen. No, he was right.
Starting point is 02:52:38 The original state, bro. That's it. And just let me finish. Go ahead. And this is what I want to express to you, bro, that's it. And just let me finish. And this is what I want to express to you, brothers. I don't give a fuck how y'all came together. I don't give a fuck what the fuck wave or push or whatever brought y'all together. It was perfect from an outsider looking in.
Starting point is 02:53:01 From an outsider looking in. I was like, damn. And I could tell these niggas wasn't suckers, I was like, damn. And I could tell these niggas was a sucker. I was like, oh shit. I got to shoot any one of these niggas, whoever I got. Because they all like shooting. We was cool for a minute though. We got cool quick.
Starting point is 02:53:16 No, no, no. Who else you knew how to say besides me? I knew Beans. But Beans wasn't around. We was clicking. Me and you was Who else? I knew Beans. I mean, but Beans wasn't around. We was cooking. No, no, I mean, me and you was hanging, but I knew Beans. But when I seen y'all aura, it wasn't about none of that. It was about seeing y'all aura.
Starting point is 02:53:33 Coming to Hot 97, I thought it was all cool Beans. I had never, I had never in my mind thought that any of this shit, that any of y'all just said tonight ever existed. This is me, looking from the outside in. Maybe you told me, but I'm just saying, in general. Definitely you're saying. But then, go forward. That's not a saying, man.
Starting point is 02:53:57 Go forward. Go forward. Go ahead. It's not that deep. It's not that deep. Anything possible. Can't be worked out. Can't be worked out.
Starting point is 02:54:05 All right. I mean, the business will be different, but. Can be worked out. Can be worked out. All right. I mean, the business will be different, but it can be worked out. Because what y'all saying, I just want y'all to know that we have 1.8 million people listening. Is it 1.8? A week. All right, a week. A week. And what I'm trying to say is that people was going to blow their fucking mind knowing.
Starting point is 02:54:21 Well, go get that appetizer five or six of us. So I'm going to go back to the truck driver's crate. It was never, ever great. It was great at one point. He said it was good. It's just the money. It was good because it saved my life. Oh, it didn't save you.
Starting point is 02:54:36 It saved my life, so it was good. But when they say good, it could have been a no-brainer. You know what I'm saying? Like one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. We should have just dropped twice a year. That's it. I mean, twice a year. You ain't never going to admit to it.
Starting point is 02:54:50 It was great. I'm going to admit it. Because great is a hard word to say. Good. Good, good, good. It was good. Good? It was good?
Starting point is 02:54:55 It was good. All right. It was good? Yeah, it was good. You know. You know what great is? Great is me being on this show, and I wake up, and I, like, sold thousands of CDs on iTunes.
Starting point is 02:55:03 That'd be great. Name me a project again Advertiser 5 Advertiser 6 yo yo you ain't never looked
Starting point is 02:55:12 you ain't never looked this Puerto Rican in your life yo you know me and you got a dilemma
Starting point is 02:55:20 you know why cause people don't represent their Latino side I go hard, though. No, you go hard. You got that flag. Nigga, I'm the first nigga to say,
Starting point is 02:55:29 I'm kidding, Dima. Nigga, I never heard that shit on TV. I'm going to have to ask you to relax. I'm going to have to ask you to relax. War Report. War Report, you went. Kalinde. I ain't jacking you for that.
Starting point is 02:55:45 I'm just telling you. I had to ask you to relax. Colleen Day. I was in War Report. I'm not saying. But you were there. But you know what? And I always respected you.
Starting point is 02:55:54 Okay. Because you put it out there. But there's a lot of people who don't recognize. You thought I jacked you, though? No, you don't. No, I'm just saying. You never think of me. I didn't think you was jacking me.
Starting point is 02:56:04 But the statement you just made, you was out of line. I didn't even believe Nick first. But you didn't stick there at the time. At the time. But you didn't
Starting point is 02:56:13 hit a wall. You went one way. You went one way. I didn't tell you you were an NRA fan. You became a fan after NRA. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:56:20 I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. He straightened that shot real quick. Yo, I'm going to hate you the lyrics. Yo. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. He was straight that shot real quick. Yo, Ramiro. Ramiro. I'm going to hate you the lyrics. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:56:29 I was like, yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo.
Starting point is 02:56:31 Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo.
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Starting point is 02:56:38 Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo.
Starting point is 02:56:42 Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo young nigga. Yeah, yeah. But, but, you didn't represent for the Puerto Ricans. I didn't. But how do you feel
Starting point is 02:56:47 about people who is half Puerto Rican like me and you and they don't represent? Like, I don't know. You know anybody that does that?
Starting point is 02:56:56 You know who they are. I don't know. Who, who, who? Yeah, Fred. Take a look. Who, who? Not yet. Not yet, man.
Starting point is 02:57:06 I think so. He's all like, he's like white and reggae all reggae. Can you have like a problem with Jewel Santana? He gave you the elbow? Nah. You know I'm like a fat. I know the answer already. Yeah, this is a perfect place to clear that shit up, yo. You also trying to give me the elbow.
Starting point is 02:57:27 No, one night, look. I don't know. What was going on, yo? All right. Puff invited us to go out to like a little, some puff party, whatever. You ain't got parties, Puff. Puff party. So anyway, I got razzled up.
Starting point is 02:57:40 I got suited up. What is razzled up? We from New York. We don't know what that means. I spent like $1,500 on my leg. I razzled up. I got suited up. What is razzled up? We from New York. We don't know what that means. I spent like $1,500 on my leg. I razzled up. Razzled up.
Starting point is 02:57:51 That's what we call it in New York. Yeah, all right. So anyway. Anyway, I went there. You caught that? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I went there. I went there.
Starting point is 02:57:59 And the Jewels gave you the elbow? No, I ran into Cardan and shit. Cardan. Cardan. Cardan. Cardan. Cardan. Cardan.
Starting point is 02:58:04 Cardan. What up, man? So me and Cardan shit. Cardin, what up? Cardin, what up, man? So me and Cardin chilling. The waitress rolled up. She said, what y'all want? I said, I want a bottle of Dom Perignon. See, in Philly, a bottle of Dom Perignon in the club. $200.
Starting point is 02:58:19 It's normally $200 in the store. But in the club, it may be like $4, $4, $5. $3, $4, $5. It's $4,700. She's at $600. No, she's at $600. She's at $600. Yeah, I had like $800 of them.
Starting point is 02:58:39 Can somebody roll up? Please somebody roll up. Can somebody roll up, please? We got $800. All got $800 on my body. All right, so I gave it $650 on the strength because I was so full in the moment. Because it's the money problem. Me and Freer, don't get it fucked up.
Starting point is 02:58:56 When Flipside was out, me and Freer, we was getting like $800,000 a night. And some nights. He wasn't getting $800,000 a night. That's a key word. $800 or $1,000. $800. $800 or $1,000. No, $8,'t getting $800,000 a night $800,000 $800,000 $800,000 $800,000
Starting point is 02:59:11 let's relax let's relax let's relax let's relax let's relax let's relax let's relax let's relax let's relax Mijn hele leven in een vleesje. Ja maar, dat was niet waar. Nee, nee, nee.
Starting point is 02:59:26 Ja, ik weet het. Haha! Haha! Vleesje! Ja, ik weet het. Ik heb een vleesje in mijn handen. Nee, nee, nee. Nee, nee, nee.
Starting point is 02:59:42 Nee, nee, nee. Ik was aan het zorgen. Ik heb een noreel. I'm sorry. Did not do it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry. On a Norie correction, $8,000. I'm sorry. Dollars. You said $800,000. $8,000. I got offended. I was like, what?
Starting point is 02:59:55 You think you got $800,000? Look at her. I'm glad you did it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Be glad. Be glad. Forgive me. I'm glad, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Be glad.
Starting point is 03:00:06 Be glad. Forgive me. I'm glad you stopped me. The niggas are going to kill you in the morning. The niggas are going to kill you. You said you got $800,000. What place are you living on? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 03:00:20 Anyway, anyway, anyway. $8,000. $8,000. U.S. currency. Let's just be clear. $8,000. $8,000 a night. $8,000. U.S. currency. Let's just be clear. $8,000. $8,000. We'll continue.
Starting point is 03:00:29 All right, U.S. currency a night. So anyway, but some nights we would get like, we'd do two shows, so that'd be like almost like $16,000 a night. So anyway, see, your little joke done fucked my whole... I forgot what the fuck you was talking to me about. What was it?
Starting point is 03:00:46 Jewel of Sanctuary. Oh, all right, all right. He humbled you. Anyway, at that time, we was feeling real good. Like, we're in a zone, you know what I mean? So we in there, me and Cardin, we in there. I would have bought all that. You know, $600, U.S. currency.
Starting point is 03:01:04 600. Gave her 650650 US currency You thought she was good Yeah I thought I was good So anyway We ride fly No lie Baller came on
Starting point is 03:01:15 And as it came on Just like sporadically Jim Jones and Jewel slid in Was walking in Like perfectly on time. Like, the song came on. They walked in and shit.
Starting point is 03:01:29 They walked in and shit. And for some reason, when he walked up to me, this is my man. Like, that was my man. When he walked up to me, he shook my hand. But for some reason, I felt like he gave me, like, some bullshit. Like, I shook his hand, but I went in for the beer hug, and he gave me this shit. Like, like... I thought, that's what I felt.
Starting point is 03:01:49 You know what I'm saying? You felt it for real. So, after that, I went in on him. He gave you the Jewel's elbow. It wasn't a Jewel's elbow. Oh, I'm sorry. That's what I thought
Starting point is 03:01:58 was going on. I thought you told me that. So, I went in, I told my man, my man was like, yo, crack, yo, crack, fuck them niggas, man. Yo, go in on that nigga. So, I went in and shit. my man. My man was like, yo, crack. Yo, crack. Fuck the niggas, man. Yo, go in on that nigga.
Starting point is 03:02:05 So I went in and shit. But then after that, I saw him. But you never told him? Like, I felt violated at the moment? I ain't talk to him. I just went in. I just went in. I just went in.
Starting point is 03:02:17 I just went in. So anyway, I still interviews and shit. They're like, what's up with Petey Crack? He said you did some shit With him with the arm and shit He's like No no I don't know what's wrong With Crack man
Starting point is 03:02:28 I don't know what's wrong They said you was hot as well I was like Maybe I was hot Maybe I was tripping They did say you was hot I might have been tripping So anyway
Starting point is 03:02:37 The same show That you talking about With Beans That day Jewel's and Jim's was there And Ells walked up to me. He's walking up and he shook my hand.
Starting point is 03:02:47 I said, are you cool? I said, yeah, I'm cool. He's like, you good? You good? And we just
Starting point is 03:02:50 scratched it right there. Okay. But I was wrong, though. I was wrong. And you was high as well? No, I don't think I was high,
Starting point is 03:02:58 yo. Come on, you always went to high shit. It's okay. It's your only time you're going to be there. No, that night I wasn't high. Just admit all your sins right now.
Starting point is 03:03:06 No, look, I only get high in North Philly. I only get high in North Philly. But I was in Manhattan. I was with Pierre Cardin. We was not high. We was just chilling. But have you slept lean? I don't drink lean, no.
Starting point is 03:03:20 You never drink lean? No, man. Who drink lean at your crew? Beans. Oh, okay. My bad. Me and Sparks smoked the wiggles. Beans drink the lean. Oh, you should drink the liquor. Before we get up out here. Free, free, free. Can you describe a wiggle for us? Can you describe a wiggle for us before we get up out here? Describe what? A wiggle. A wiggle? Yeah, please. We never heard a wiggle. What's a wiggle? What is a wiggle, please? Please, can you just go? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 03:03:49 I can't. I'm not the wiggle specialist, dog. No, just, I'm just, I mean, you know. I don't know. I can't give you a rough. I can't give you a rough on it. Give me a rough draft on a wiggle. I ain't got no rough, man. I'm sorry, dog.
Starting point is 03:04:02 So, but it's PCP. Yeah. With weed or snow? Yo, don't you like, man. I'm sorry, bro. So, what is PCP? Yeah. With weed or with no weed? Yo, don't even like, bro, you know. A lot. It's with weed or not with weed? You like your little colored bro. It's with weed or not with weed?
Starting point is 03:04:13 Leave me alone, yo. All right. Let me give my shout out, baby. You want more, Sheriff? Let me give my shout out, sir. Yo, yo. Hold on, hold on. Tiger Ball, let's go.
Starting point is 03:04:23 Let me tell you something. Osquino. Yo, you, hold on, hold on. Tiger Ball, let's go. Let me tell you something, Osquino. Yo, you've been on the Super Publicity Sprint, and you know what? Yeah, you make it all you want. You make it work. He look like a brother to me. He look like brother to me. You make it real like a motherfucker.
Starting point is 03:04:39 It might be a family, though. Chill out. No, we always say that, though. So I'd like to thank you for not going crazy here because you listened to me and that's what was important to me. Because you ain't got to tell me I'm your OG or whatever, or a nigga that came before me.
Starting point is 03:04:58 You showed it to me. And I really respect that because I do understand where you're coming from, my beans, but at the same time, it's like, fuck, let's just get money. Exactly, I'm respect that because I do understand where you're coming from with beans. But at the same time, it's like, fuck, let's just get money. Exactly. I'm with that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:05:10 And I can see that you actually listen to me. I couldn't believe that. If a nigga told me, because a nigga tell me your reputation, I'm like, and you know what? You always been the same with me and you kept it the same with me tonight. So I want to say thank you. Oh. You know what I'm saying? I want wanna say thank you. Oh, cool. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:05:26 I wanna say thank you. Because P. Crack lined me up. You know he lined me up. No, no, no, no, no, no. There really was no line up. There was a line up. There was a line up. Crack, you lined him up.
Starting point is 03:05:34 Wow. There was a line up. But Crack, are you gonna take your hat off so people see your curls? Yo, I'll be true to you. Yo, yo, yo, P. Crack. Yo, P. Crack, I'm gonna tell the Puerto Ricans to cut you off. Next video.
Starting point is 03:05:46 Because you don't want to. I'm going to tell them to cut you off. We both got the poppy, man. No, no. I think I got them a little more than you. Take my shit off. We got to sell some stuff. For one day.
Starting point is 03:05:55 Advertiser 5, Advertiser 6. I'll be Trizzy. Watch me surf. 365 South. And N.R.E. is going to squash that state property. Six mil. Watch me surf. Rawley beats Keith Hart's. squash that state property. Six mil. I'll be Chizzy West. We serve.
Starting point is 03:06:05 Rawley beats Keith Hart's M.A. on the list, man. Big up Freeway. Can we big up Freeway? It's shady plus. No Freeway? I shot Freeway. Why not? Big up Freeway.
Starting point is 03:06:13 Not a lot of Free. Yo. I don't know. Freeway a good guy. I knew Free since I was like four years old. Freeway, he like to be like. Your face look mad fake right now. Freeway like.
Starting point is 03:06:23 It ain't fake. It ain't fake. It's just that. He like to play both sides. And I would say, well, if you play both sides, it ain't fake it ain't fake it's just that you can play both sides and i would say well if you play both sides you ain't with me i'll just knock you over you know and i gotta stop that sometimes but you know so we can't big up all right what's the rest of the state property on big up freeway big up johnny jay big up johnny jay Big up Sparks. Big up Johnny J. How about Young Chris?
Starting point is 03:06:49 Shout out to Gunna, man. Shout out to Gunna. Gunna's a good dude to me, man. Neapuck's a good dude to me, too. I want to see the differences. Nah, let me speak my piece, because he's different. All right. This is Young Chris.
Starting point is 03:07:00 Yeah, Young Chris. Neapuck's always been thorough to me, man. Neapuck's real thorough. Young Gunna, Young Chris, dope. One of my favorite MCs in Philly. Like one of my top three in Philly. Neat Buck, I mean, Young Gunner. Young Gunner. And Freeway Family, regardless of rap or anything, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:07:19 All right, let's go through the whole state property for you. Let's go. And then we're going to go to that. You just got it right there. See, that's easier. Okay. All right, so you want me to name names, And then we're going to go to that. You just got it right there. See, that's easier. Okay. All right, so you want me to name names, and then you want to say what you think about them?
Starting point is 03:07:30 I mean, I'll do that. Let's do that. All right, we're going to go. Young Chris. Young Chris, definitely a lyrical genius. Neif. Neif Buck, hustler. Freewayler Freeway
Starting point is 03:07:45 Freeway Family Call me at the local I got the interview Nobody wrote me a blunt I don't have good friends Alright I said Freeway already
Starting point is 03:08:01 Sparks Sparks Sparks Misunderstood It's everywhere already. Sparks. Sparks. Sparks. Misunderstood. Yes. Okay, you ready? Dame Dash.
Starting point is 03:08:16 Oh, Dame Dash, Dame Dash. Woo! OG, man. OG. I got OG. Gotta be OG. I'm not stopping. You ready? OG. Ta-ta. OG. OG. Got to be OG. I'm not stopping you, ready? OG.
Starting point is 03:08:27 Tata. Tata. Damn. That was a good one. Yeah. Hittin' Secret. I fucked you up with that one. I liked it.
Starting point is 03:08:38 Hittin' Secret. Okay, you ready? Tata Hittin' Secret, dog. All right, stop, stop. You're the next. All right, I ain't ODing. Biggs. Biggs?
Starting point is 03:08:48 Damn. Damn. Now, I can't use OG over again. You know what I'm saying? Triple OG. Damn. Too creative. No, triple OG.
Starting point is 03:08:57 Triple OG. Nah, I don't like using the same shit, though, because Biggs, I got more shit for Biggs, but it takes too long so i'll give him the triple oj right now okay give me some more time you're sending else okay lenny yes lenny yes progressive man progressive definitely don't know what that means
Starting point is 03:09:31 but let's make some noise for that I'm skiing on you you ready what's what Jay Z you want me to ask everybody
Starting point is 03:09:41 don't ask me Jay Z I'm scared I'll ask you Jay Z me Jay Z Jay Z Jay Z You want me to ask him right? Don't ask him Jay-Z? I'm scared. I'll ask you Jay-Z. Me? Jay-Z. Jay-Z, Jay-Z.
Starting point is 03:09:51 You're asking me right now? I'm asking you. I thought you were asking him. No, we're asking you. No, Jay-Z, Jay-Z, man. Damn. To me, honestly, from my point of view, like where I stand, my standpoint, damn. No, that ain't mobile.
Starting point is 03:10:04 You keep saying damn or you keep saying damn? No, I ain't say, I say damn. that ain't Moe You keep saying damn Or you keep saying damn Nah I ain't say I said damn I ain't say damn I said damn That was crazy Damn
Starting point is 03:10:10 Uh Damn with J man J J just uh Experience man It was an experience Of a lifetime It's experience?
Starting point is 03:10:28 No, experience That was an experience This is a cap service from Queens Let's make some noise for that guy Oh Nah, nah, look Know why I say that, though? Because
Starting point is 03:10:38 That was That was a major It's speaking your heart We want to speak your heart It's a thing, though Coming up, though I kind of feel like You're being fake right now Nah I ain't come
Starting point is 03:10:46 Come on seriously No you won't do that Alright Listen Coming up man Growing up and shit If we If I ain't
Starting point is 03:10:56 If I ain't had nothing To grow up to I ain't had no OG's and shit I ain't grow up and nothing We ain't got shit Around the way Like where we came from We ain't had shit
Starting point is 03:11:03 To look up to Except for drug dealers And shit like that So to be around somebody Like a mogul and shit To be like Like right there Hands on
Starting point is 03:11:11 No be like Hands on Like somebody right there Hands on Like I'm right there With him and shit That experience was crazy It
Starting point is 03:11:21 It inspired me so much You know what I'm saying Like What's the best experience you can get to be right there? Some niggas get on, they be on, they get signed to Columbia. Who the fuck is on Columbia?
Starting point is 03:11:34 You need to be chilling. There ain't nobody to be chilling with. You be like, yo, I'm here. Don't laugh at me, Twins. I'm saying, but I was on Rockefeller Records. I'm with Jay-Z. I'm right here with him. I'm like, oh, was on Rockefeller Records. I'm with Jay-Z. I'm right here with him.
Starting point is 03:11:46 I'm like, oh, shit, it was Jay. Right? He like, Jay. The biggest nigga in the world right now. World. I ain't no fucking virgin nigga. I'm on Rockefeller. So, yeah, I experienced some real shit.
Starting point is 03:11:59 You know what I'm saying? I got it firsthand. You know what I'm saying? I got it. Me and y'all, we got it firsthand. We got it better than anybody. Niggas be sitting on labels. They be fucked up.
Starting point is 03:12:09 They be looking crazy. So for the record, there's no malice with anybody at Rock and Roll? Never, man. It was a blessing, man. You ready? I used to cry. I used to pray for that shit. We're going to end it out.
Starting point is 03:12:21 All right. Same questions as this ass crack. All right. You ready? Yeah, I'm ready. Yo, Chris. Yo, Chris. We're going to end it out. Same questions as his ass crack. You ready? Yeah, I'm ready. Yo, Chris. Yo, Chris, be all right. I just think he need to have a stronger backbone. Like, he got to stop being so soft.
Starting point is 03:12:33 He got to man up and pick a side. You know what I mean? Instead of what you believe in. Neif, the same way. I got to think Neif got to be. I mean, I love Neif because when I was in prison, he sent me bread. You know what I'm saying? But when I came home, he said something to me.
Starting point is 03:12:46 I think me and Neif, they got the best of chances squashing our beef if we just talk. But right now, I need the mood to talk, probably like Wednesday, Wednesday, like we talked about. Wednesday, it would be if Neif could talk. Okay. Freeway. Che, your niggas don't want this interview.
Starting point is 03:13:03 I got this. Freeway. Freeway, like, I understand Freeway. Chill, you niggas don't want this interview. I got this. Freeway. Freeway, like, I understand Freeway. He's a hardcore rapper and to the public, but he's really like a nice, nice guy. Like a, you know what I mean? So I hate to drag him under the bus. He's off.
Starting point is 03:13:18 I hate to drag him under the bus. You know what I'm saying? Because I got love for Freeway. I got love for Freeway. You know what I'm saying? But whatever Mac say, he's like his puppy. You know what I'm saying? So if I come at Macway. I got love for Freeway, you know what I'm saying? But whatever Mac say, he's like his puppy. You know what I'm saying? So if I come at Mac,
Starting point is 03:13:28 I gotta come at Freeway at the same time. It's like I don't just shoot at, I shoot at the whole car. You know what I'm saying? Not in the middle of it. You know what I'm saying? Like, or if you riding with him, you mean, you mean,
Starting point is 03:13:38 but I love him at the end of the day. Like, it ain't that bad. He never did nothing to me ever. Right. Personally, so it's not, you know what I mean? Okay. Dame Dash. Wow. that bad he never did nothing to me ever personally so it's not okay game dash that's like that's like my uncle I love you that's why I'm calling right now I'm like oh they I call them right now
Starting point is 03:13:55 I need an Android charger we ain't got that over here. Real, oh yeah, y'all iPhone boys. See y'all, y'all ever see the movie Terminator? Yes, which one? Controlled by the machines. Which one? I've seen every Terminator. Yeah, controlled by the machines. The iPhone is the machine.
Starting point is 03:14:14 Yeah, yeah. No, that's real rap, though. Like, I talk the thing like every day. Real, real rap. Dave Dash, okay. Ready? Mm-hmm. P. Crack. P. Crack, my bro. Like, see, okay. Ready? Mm-hmm. P-Crack.
Starting point is 03:14:27 P-Crack my bro, like see, I curse, man, can we just curse each other out? It don't matter. That's like my bro. Like that's somebody I can talk to, argue with. We've been tight ever since we knew each other. You know what I'm saying? So like, that's like, that's family.
Starting point is 03:14:39 Okay, ready? Yeah. Of Skino. Uh-huh, niggas crazy. Niggas crazy, keep it two rows sometimes. Sometimes you can't tell a, Ready? Yeah. Of skiing off. That nigga's crazy. That nigga's crazy. He keep it too real sometimes. Sometimes you can't tell it. It's like you have a girl.
Starting point is 03:14:49 You cheat on her, right? And she's like, where was you at last night? You're like, I was fucking this bitch, man. She had a fat ass. You don't tell your girl that, right? Can't.
Starting point is 03:14:56 Sometimes I tell the truth too much. I gotta learn to bring some of the truth back. But it's hard for me. Do you think that's what, like, because you're the man in Philly, but you ain't take the national scale yet. You think that's what it is, or no? No, I think I take the national scale
Starting point is 03:15:13 because I'm selling drugs until February. You stopped? Yeah. I mean, February I start rapping again, like, you know what I'm saying? So, I just started going hard. I'm gonna take the national scale because the internet is gonna save my life.
Starting point is 03:15:24 All right, so you're ready for another name? Uh-huh. Jay-Z. Jay-Z, I mean, like I said, he saved my life. So everything after that don't matter. Like, he could do whatever. He don't got to ever say nothing else to me ever again, but he saved my life. And I didn't realize that until I was sitting in the penitentiary for a couple years.
Starting point is 03:15:43 Like, yo, boy, saved my life. So I thank him for that. So I think anything the penitentiary for a couple years. Like, yo, boy saved my life. So I thank him for that. So I think anything else that he could have did that I don't like, don't compare. It's saving my life. Exactly. He put me in the game. Exactly. So you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:15:54 The stuff that I don't like don't matter. I'm still Osquino. I still get paid for being Osquino because of him making me Osquino. So I'm still going to say if I don't like something he did, I'm still going to say it. I don't care if he got 800 billion because I don't get 10 cent of it. So, I don't got to,
Starting point is 03:16:10 like, what I'm saying, he saved my life because I won that from him. I respect that. It's just the real shit. You know what I'm saying? Miff Bleak.
Starting point is 03:16:17 Ooh. I think Miff Bleak should be mad like me because I think Miff Bleak should have like 100 million. But, I don't know him enough to say nothing bad about him because I like Mif Bleak. Mif Bleak always been nice to me, been real with me. So there's nothing bad I can say about Mif Bleak. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:16:32 I fuck with Mif Bleak. Mif Bleak should be rich though. Real rich. I think he is. He probably is real rich. He probably is real rich. I don't know. But I'm just saying, if he not real rich, that's probably why he don't know how to rap or something
Starting point is 03:16:42 because he shouldn't be rapping. Mif Bleak is, that's Jay-Z. He a reflection, direct reflection of Jay-Z. So, he gotta be rich, because there's no other way. He's rich. In my eyes, for sure. When I heard that...
Starting point is 03:16:58 I see. He up. This is me. This is my nigga. I love him. Yo, listen. Mitt Lika's a good dude Good dude I got nothing bad To say about him So this is the last one
Starting point is 03:17:10 Beanie Seagull Funny shit Well I mean I think I said everything I had to say about Beanie As far as I think he got a bad character I'm about to tell you
Starting point is 03:17:23 I think he got a bad character I think he make bad choices I think he got mal get bad character. But let's just. I'm about to tell you, I think you got bad character. You got bad, I think you make bad choices. I think you got malice in his heart. You know what I'm saying? Real shit. And I think a person like me can make him double,
Starting point is 03:17:32 take a look. I think everybody around him is just men because they probably scared. You know what I'm saying? I think a person like me can make him take a double look at himself. And I know I ain't perfect. But I put my,
Starting point is 03:17:40 I put my heart on my sleeve. So you can tell, you know what I'm coming from. But he did something to somebody instead of him trying to like go heart on my sleeve. So you can tell, you know what I'm coming from. But, he did something to somebody, instead of him trying to like, go back on the defensive, just, apologize.
Starting point is 03:17:49 Tell your brother, yo, listen, I was wrong. I ain't gonna do that no more. I'm gonna be easy. I shouldn't be the one sitting here trying to do the right thing
Starting point is 03:17:56 when you did something wrong to me. It don't make sense. You know what I'm saying? But, at the end of the day, he a good rapper. He a good entertainer. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 03:18:03 So, but at the end of the day, I'm coming for the title. That's just, you know what I mean? And I got some people, you know, they saying I'm for real. My work ethic for real. They take it serious. No, no, no.
Starting point is 03:18:14 They holding you down in the hood. I get one chance, it's over. Yeah. Well, listen. We want to keep you home. I don't know what that one chance meant. Oh, no. One chance, no.
Starting point is 03:18:22 One chance in the music business. I don't do crime no more. I'm a citizen. I'm a citizen. I'm a citizen. You don't do no crime no meant. I know what you're talking about. I'll do crime no more If I'm a citizen crime, I'm a citizen no crime no more. I mean, you know, I see you get your family in a chain They so much. Yeah, yeah Respect that I respect that support we can shit dog. Just you know my best question. Oh Sure Sunday my beer That shit makes sense. That's a Puerto Rican chain. For sure. I got a son named Javier. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 03:18:50 Now that chain makes total sense. I'm like, damn, the black nigga got a Puerto Rican chain right there. Yo, listen. Thank y'all. State property. Oski, you know. Petey crack. We don't know what he's doing.
Starting point is 03:19:01 I think he's sniffing coke right there. Smoking a piece of beer. A little piece of beer. Sorry, sorry't know what he's doing. I think he's sniffing coke back there. I was smoking PCP. Sorry, sorry. Relax. It's okay. But Petey Crack, definitely, I seen him PCP'd up one night. It was real.
Starting point is 03:19:14 But that's my brother. We don't care. We don't care about that. I'm sorry. Why you moving? All right. Everybody, Osquino, we're going to squash the beef at some point. Wednesday.
Starting point is 03:19:23 Wednesday? I don't know if I'm available. No, you're not going to be around. I'm going to squash you Wednesday. some point. Wednesday? I don't know if I'm available. No, you're not going to be around. I'm going to squash you Wednesday. You are? Yeah. I respect that, man. You know why?
Starting point is 03:19:36 Because out of everybody, you took it personal. Everybody else didn't take it personal. You took it personal because you're a real official street nigga. Is that correct? And once somebody crossed the line, is that what it is? Of course. Yes. And I respect that.
Starting point is 03:19:55 But I don't think beans really mean. But I don't know your situation. I don't want to keep it going. But I think that you as a boss can make it better. And even if it's not squash, you can continue doing your thing with no violence in your heart, and the people are going to continue to fuck with you. Yeah, my mouth is going. It left a day. Exactly.
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