Drink Champs - Episode 359 w/ Tk Kirkland
Episode Date: April 14, 2023N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the Champs chop it up with the one and only, Tk Kirkland!Tk shares stories of his journey in comedy and the entertainment business. Tk share...s stories of going on tour with NWA, his thoughts on social media and more!Comedian, actor, podcast host and much much more! Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more: 🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreaga *Check out our Culture Cards NFT project by joining The Culture Cards Discord: 👇*See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Now, E, you know, we started this show,
we said we wanted to interview legends.
We wanted to interview icons.
This man right here is an icon.
I've been going through his material,
knowing that we had him booked,
and I've been trying to see if he repeats.
He don't repeat nothing.
His material is always fresh.
It's always, and it's always straight to
I heard him say
I'm either going to motivate you or
intimidate you.
And boy as hell, that's
exactly what it is. It's either you're going to get
motivated, you're going to get intimidated
or you're going to get something.
But a man has been down
doing this. Like I want to go
reiterate this NWA tour.
Every time I think of it, and I say that, not only was him a part, he was on the tour.
Right.
Like, as an actor, this is just so crazy.
You keep listening to his history from the, you know, stealing Charlie's Murphy Rolex to, you know, swiping Puff's daddy card.
This man is a legend.
Right, right. Legend on top of legend. And we're going to find out to daddy card. This man is a legend. Right, right.
Legend on top of legend.
And we're going to find out to the bottom.
We're going to drink.
We're going to get some smokes and cigars.
I brought a Cohiba from Bahamas for him.
And in case you don't know, my motherfucking legendary TK Curzio.
So, born and raised in New Jersey.
Jersey City, New Jersey.
How does, how does, how does, let's take it from the top.
How does, let's take it from the top when comedy first striked you, right?
Mm-hmm.
Because you said Jersey City.
Yes.
What is this?
Your father's funny, your mom's funny.
How does this work?
It's crazy how my, how the career took over me because I was a college graduate.
I got my master's degree.
What did you get it in?
Speech communication.
Oh, perfect.
Yeah.
So comedy wasn't on my radar because in the 80s, to be a comedian coming from my family,
it was embarrassing.
What the fuck do you mean you're a comedian?
Nigga, you went to college, right?
Right.
And ran track, ran track, did my thing.
And then really,
believe it or not,
the situation when
I hung out with Eddie Murphy,
his brother Charlie Murphy,
and we had a huge fight
on Wilshire Boulevard in L.A.
Okay, so y'all,
you didn't know them
from back in the East Coast?
No.
Okay, okay, all right, cool.
It all started,
and the reason why
I'm going to bring this up
is because I'm going to talk
to the world
about evolving as a man.
Yeah.
Right?
And that's what we want to get across today.
Let's get to it, man.
Let's talk about it.
I need a drink.
I need a drink.
I need a drink.
Evolve as a man.
And see, when I was a youngster, Keenan Ivey Wayans, I was hanging out, because I lived in Northridge on Parthenia.
And I lived two doors down from Richard Pryor.
But I wasn't doing stand-up comedy.
I was getting my master's degree at Cal State Northridge.
And I hung out one night smoking and got the drop top down.
And this is before Richard Pryor birthed himself?
It was right after he birthed himself.
But I didn't know him.
I didn't really care about that.
But you were a fan of Richard Pryor.
Yeah, but I wasn't really.
Comedy, I'm going to explain to you how I am with comedy.
So I remember I went out
one night
and I ran into,
it was a party
at a club called
Carlos and Charlie's
on Sunset Boulevard.
It was back in the day
y'all was kids back then
in 82, 83.
No, not EFN.
He was young.
Yeah.
See, this happened in 82.
What, 82?
No, 1982.
I'm seven years old.
Right, 1982.
Okay.
Because I didn't start comedy
until 1985.
Right.
So, in 1982,
I meet Keenan Ivey Wayans.
Keenan Ivey Wayans takes me into this party
because I got this classic, this Impala. And when I pulled up, it was so fly. He was like,
yo, what kind of car is this? So he said, yo, you want to come into the party? Took
me in. Prince was in that motherfucker with the rose, with the bodyguard, with the big
bodyguard with the blonde hair that looked like a wrestler. Oh, wow. And we was all in VIP section, so I wanted to buy like six bottles of Cristal, and we
just hanging, right?
But it caught the attention of the guys.
So we're hanging out, and I get on the set of Beverly Hills Cop with Eddie Murphy.
We hanging.
And then one day, man, we went shopping at the Beverly Center, and we came back, and
for some reason, Charlie Murphy's washing
his perm.
I'm sitting on the sink.
Okay.
And someone said, rob these niggas.
You know what I'm saying?
So the Rolex got taken, and it was really one of the most embarrassing things I've ever
did in my life as I grow as a man.
So let's describe, because it wasn't like a robbery.
It wasn't like you put a gun.
No, no, no, no.
It was just like, yeah, I was part of it.
You swiped it.
Yeah, swiped it, yeah.
So it was an embarrassing situation
when you understand life, right?
Because we have a lot of young kids today
who do a lot of embarrassing things,
like John Morant with the gun.
Right.
Young kids shooting people, whatever. So you was John Morant back then? No, no, no, not John Morant. the gun. Young kids shooting people, whatever.
So you was John Morant back then? No, no, no. Not John Morant.
What I'm trying to say is we
make bad choices
as kids. And we don't take
the time to think of the consequences in life.
Is Charlie Murphy?
Because obviously Eddie Murphy has always been
who Eddie Murphy is. Yes, yes. Was Charlie
known in these circles at the time? No, no, no.
And the reason why I bring that is because they was good to me.
Right.
You understand what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Eddie, Charlie.
So you was just being foul.
I was being foul.
Right.
You know, yeah.
It's true.
I was being foul.
You fit in the darkness brothers.
Yeah.
You was in the darkness brothers.
You could have been
the third darkness.
Yeah, yeah.
No, no, no.
No, no.
That wasn't going to work.
We're not going to put that out there.
You know what I'm saying?
No.
Because that's a thing that you say,
oh, that nigga could have put them on.
But that's not the way life is.
People think like that,
but motherfuckers don't put people on.
You got to be a certain type of nigga
to put people on.
I put people on.
Other people don't put people on.
But let's describe the people.
So you guys are at a party.
No, no, no.
I want you to tell them.
On this interview?
No, on this interview?
Uh-huh.
You won't let me finish.
Okay.
On this interview? No, on this interview? Uh-huh. You won't let me finish. I'm the motherfucker. Go.
On this interview, you ain't going to cut me off.
I'm the motherfucking talking.
And I love you to death. Let's go.
Let's go.
He's a love guy.
He came ready.
You know what you're doing.
This is your home.
Yeah.
So.
Okay.
Yeah.
Because the story was so amazing.
That led, believe it or not, to me doing stand-up comedy.
Wow.
Because I turned the negative into a positive.
It didn't happen until two or three years later.
Right.
So then I meet a man named Michael Williams.
Okay.
Who started the Comedy Act Theater with Robin Harris.
Right.
Meet Robin Harris, and I saw one of the greatest stand-up comedians ever.
That's Baby K's Robin Harris?
No, Robin Harris, the Bebe kids.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You said it so fast.
I'm excited. I'm excited.
I want you to slow down.
I'm excited. I'm excited. Puerto Rican. Puerto Rican, come on to me.
So that changed my game. But I was never a true fan of staying a comedian because they wasn't getting money.
Oh, okay.
See, when we started, it was $20 a show.
All right.
Jesus.
Flat.
Chicken wings and shit.
Not for an hour.
It's just flat.
$20, yo.
That wasn't money for me.
Do you understand?
I thought you meant $20 like that was the ticket price.
You talking about that's what you was getting paid?
That's what we got paid.
Holy shit.
No, you're fucking me up right now. No, no, no. That's not even a per diem. This is what comedians got paid in the ticket price. You talking about that's what you was getting paid? That's what we got paid. Holy shit, no, you fucking me up right now.
No, no, no.
That's not even a per diem.
This is what comedians
got paid in the 80s.
Wow.
Because we was building,
we didn't know
what we was building.
Just like y'all don't know
what y'all doing here.
Yeah, that's right.
You know what I'm saying?
That's right.
Say your thing.
It's your thing.
That's how you feel, TK.
But yeah,
but you don't know
where it's going.
Yeah, that's right.
So to see agents in Hollywood, to see stand-up comedians doing what they're doing now,
not knowing what us younger comics did back in the 80s to make people's lives much, much better.
Because we didn't know.
We didn't know it was going to happen.
But I always treat a stand-up comedy, I'm a businessman.
And comedy is my side hustle. So
when I used to see the
Eazy-E, when I used
to see Jay-Z, when I see
Baby from Cash Money Millionaires,
the thing that
I always took from them was
being independent. Do you
understand what I'm saying? So
the Dave Chappelle's,
the Chris Rock's,
they all went for TV
and they got their shows.
And even though they make
a million years now,
they never really own
their own shit.
That's the one thing
I noticed about you
that I all pointed out
to my friends earlier
is as we're going through it,
it all says your network on it.
Absolutely.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
Let me let you finish your thought. I see I own my own shit and there's no hate to the other. No, no, we got to make some noise for on it. Absolutely. That's amazing. Yeah. Let me let you finish your thought.
See, I own my own shit,
and there's no hate
to the other comedy.
No, no, we got to make
some noise for that, though.
Yeah.
We got to make some noise for that
because that was one of the first things
that I immediately caught on to.
I was like, wow,
it seemed like you owned everything
that I was watching.
I own everything.
And I have never saw that before,
especially with comedy.
Yeah, I own everything.
Now, yes,
would I would like to be a big motherfucking star and getting in millions and millions,
but as you get older, you can only have so much money.
As you get older, you can only have so many cars.
When you get older, you can only have so much jewelry.
It doesn't matter.
I always tell people, it's not how well you live, it's how well you die.
You understand what I'm saying? So I try to inject into the universe my mistakes, and I try to explain to her how I evolved as a man.
And that's what I want this interview to be about, how I evolved as a man, because we need to let young men and women know how you can start one way and continue the journey
to get back on your track.
Because you recently apologized
to Eddie Murphy, right?
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
We was at a,
it's crazy.
He pulled up in a Rolls Royce.
I was in a Bentley.
As he should.
As he should.
He had a woman with him
and I had a bad bitch breathing on me.
Okay, okay, okay.
And we walked in. We was all in on me. Okay, okay, okay. And we
walked in. We was all in VIP now.
I'm with this nigga.
Now, it's Eddie Murphy.
I'm a gentleman.
I'm a gentleman.
You know what I'm saying?
So, as men, I sat
there and believe it or not,
this happened about 20 years ago now,
that had been on my mind.
Right.
Because I never got to meet Charlie Murphy again.
Wow.
From 1982, even when he got into stand-up.
Okay.
We never crossed each other's path.
Wow.
We talked through other people,
so we knew the respect was there,
but I never got a chance to look him in his eye.
And as a man, no, no, let me finish. Okay, yeah. As a a chance to look him in his eye. And as a man...
As a man to say
I apologize. So when I
saw Eddie in the VIP section,
I was with the young lady.
I said, I'll be right back.
And I walked up to him and said, how you doing, Eddie?
He said, listen,
about 20-something years ago,
you invited me in your home.
And I just want you to understand, as, man, I truly apologize for what I did to come in your home and be disrespectful.
We all own homes, right?
And if you allow somebody in your house, like, nigga, I fuck with you.
That's a big deal.
Right.
Nigga, I fuck with you.
And as a youngster, I didn't understand that.
Right. Right Nigga I fuck with you And as a youngster I didn't understand that Right And when I understood life
Right
I was mad at my motherfuckers
Yeah
Because I was like
Damn T
Not that it could've changed my career
No no
Because where I'm at
Is where I'm supposed to be
But I pushed being a motherfucking man
I take that very seriously
So I Once I said that very seriously. So I
once I said that to him
Nick it was
That's a beautiful moment.
You know
it's crazy. I had
hired Charlie Murphy because
I loved the Dave Chappelle skit.
We hired him for a video and
I hit it off with him.
Wonderful gentleman.
Most people that you see and when you see them off television, they're not like that.
That's why I say that.
Y'all would have got a long...
Y'all would have made jokes about it.
We was good.
It was good.
I mean, I was hanging with him more than I was hanging with Eddie.
Wow.
And that one, that's what I'm trying to say about choices.
Right.
And this is what me and my man was talking about before the show started.
We was talking about BMF.
We was talking about snowfall.
You know, we bring Scarface into this.
We bring in all the drug movies of the world.
And what I want kids to think about and people in the studio, see, people see the drugs.
They see the flamboyant shit
of being a hustler.
They don't see the downfall.
The problem with those shows
is choices.
Every time you turn
the fuck around,
them niggas is making choices
that are detrimental
to their fucking life.
And what's crazy with my man Franklin Sane.
Damn son.
The choice that he makes keeps burying him deeper and deeper in the ground.
See, sometimes you make choices you can get out.
There's some choices, dog.
Because he fed into his anger and ego.
He fed into his anger and ego.
You're talking about the character, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, he fell into his anger and ego. He fed into his anger and ego. You're talking about the character, right? Yeah, yeah. Y'all going too far.
Yeah, he fell into his character, right?
And in every show, there's a line that'll make you make a decision.
And in the beginning of Frank LaSanne, his unk said to his woman and to him, he said,
this shit brings trouble.
Do you want this kind of heat? And Scarface,
when the white man
Frank White
took Tony in,
and Tony,
well, he wanted
to take his bitch,
he wanted to connect,
he wanted the
motherfucker house,
and he said,
Tony, it's the people
who stay,
who fly low,
who make it
in this business.
And see,
these kids go out here
and hustle.
Key,
when we was growing up,
Key was 12,000.
You put 3,000 on, it's $15,000.
Give Key now $37,000.
How you know where the key is now?
I've been hustling my whole motherfucking life.
You know what I'm saying?
And they put this little change on it, which is a 6% markup, which ain't worth it.
So I try to push education.
Get an education. Understand coding. which ain't worth it. So I try to push education,
get an education,
understand coding,
get into understanding artificial intelligence because that's the way of the future.
The AI shit is wild.
Yeah, the AI shit.
And we sleep,
motherfuckers are sleeping.
They just watching the videos
talking about,
ooh, the future's good.
Nigga.
The future is now.
No, it's not about the future now.
You got to see, go deeper.
How can I invest in those companies? How can I learn a skill The future is now. No, it's not about the future now. You got to see it go deeper.
How can I invest in those companies?
How can I learn a skill that I can have a job or teach my children to have a job in artificial intelligence? Because the truck driver shit working for FedEx, working for Best Buy is gone because they building machines that take those people places.
Everything. And when you see the Putins
and the leader of Japan
and North Korea talking,
and I was watching their interview,
they're not talking about
the next five years.
They're talking about
the next hundred years.
They play long game.
They play long game.
We're short term.
They're long game.
They're not even going to be here.
But they're planning for their future.
That's why Russia just purchased $20 billion of Africa's debt.
Wow.
And China's invested heavily in Africa and Latin America.
It's chest in this motherfucker.
See, they moving the way we don't see people moving.
And Uganda, who is a powerful nation,
what they didn't put on the news last week
and found $20 trillion worth of gold.
Now, they promoted the law
that they passed against the gay community
that if you're over there and you're gay,
you can get life in prison or the death penalty.
But you didn't hear one article
that mentioned
about a black country
just found trillions in gold.
$20 trillion.
Because it makes them
a powerhouse.
See, because America
have you thinking
that the African countries
are horrible.
Don't visit them.
Yeah, don't go visit them.
When they show Africa,
they always show the jungle.
Yeah, they show
a hole in it
that someone knows. They never show Africa, they always show the jungle. Yeah, they show a hole in it and someone knows.
They never show how Africa look like motherfucking Beverly Hills.
Metropolitan cities.
Exactly.
Yeah, hotels and beautiful fucking homes.
Some of the richest people are in Africa.
Yeah, exactly.
So that's what we have to start pushing, right?
That's what we have to start pushing, and not just pushing that, pushing health.
Because we talk about all the celebrities all the time, right?
We talk about what's going on in hip-hop.
But as black men, we have to start pushing health.
Because we always talk about money, who got the most money.
But we never talk about health.
Because the goal is, okay, we're going to teach you how to get the bag.
But we got to start teaching people to live long,
to enjoy the bag.
The true world.
You know?
Right.
That's right.
A lot of people
don't go to the doctor.
I'm looking at you.
You've been to the doctor.
Every year.
You know?
And that's the myth.
Watch what I'm about to tell you.
You pay insurance every month
to go to the doctor
once a year.
Right.
So that's a hustle.
Yeah.
Why would you pay
once a month
to go once a year? That's crazy. I tell people, fuck that once a year shit.'s a hustle. Why would you pay once a month to go once a
year? I tell people, fuck
that once a year shit. You got to start going every
three fucking months because let's say you are
sick and you wait a year because you don't
know what's going on internally. By the time you
get there, you fucked up. We got to
step our game up on
going, understanding
our health, going for walks,
going to get in sun
and not waiting till men
get erectile dysfunction
that think something's wrong with them.
You got to go to the doctor,
take care of your health
and your mental.
I guarantee you,
it'll change your game.
I've been wanting to say that.
If anything,
I want to talk about eating a woman's pussy. That's what let me, because I see, if anything, I want, I want to talk about
eating a woman's pussy.
That's what I'm talking about.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm using vibrators
and hot towels and shit
and just making a woman
climax to a whole nother level.
See,
because a lot of niggas
don't,
a lot of niggas
ain't got game on
on how to handle
these women.
And that's why these,
and that's why these young niggas
is going to jail.
They don't know how to,
when we was growing up,
we used to mack bitches.
What you say, this is one of my favorite lines.
You say, every June, there's a group of college bitches graduating gym.
College bitches graduating.
Because these young niggas, yo, is tripping for bitch, leave them.
They're killing shit.
They're killing, yo.
They're killing.
Like the other day, a young man, because his girl wouldn't give him the passcode to the phone,
choked his daughter on FaceTime, killed the baby in front of her.
Yo.
Oh, I didn't hear about that.
Yeah, little bitch ass nigga.
Yeah.
You understand what I'm saying?
So this is what we got to put out.
We got to put the thing in these young niggas mind.
Like, niggas, stay strong.
Right.
You know?
You don't need to settle down in your 20s.
Anybody listening in your 20s, you're supposed to explore the fucking world.
You're supposed to date, have a good time, stack your motherfucking money.
Because what I said earlier about evolving, if you not settle, but if you start dating at a young age,
nigga, by the time you're 30 or 40, your way of thinking is different.
The way you look at a woman
is different.
The same ass I liked 40
years ago ain't the same ass I like
now. The same mind that I
liked in my 20s ain't the same
mind I like now. It's growth.
You want to feel committed, but
most of y'all that have been in relationships, you don't really
like the bitch you with.
You put up with her, but you really don't like that bitch.
You don't really like you put up with it
because you think it's the right fucking thing to do.
Some of y'all stick your dick in other bitches and go back home,
but my point is you really don't like this bitch
that you fucked with 20, 30 years ago.
I'm just being honest, y'all.
I'm fucking 63 honest, yo. So you got to take,
I'm fucking 63, dawg.
I'm 63 years old.
You looking good.
You looking good.
You looking good.
You know?
And I'm really 61,
about to be 62.
Right.
But I always put a year
on top of it.
And let me tell you why.
Because I believe
in being so honest,
I never want to lie to myself.
So I got to make motherfucking 63. So I always say I'm a year older honest. I never want to lie to myself. So I got to make Motherfucker 63.
So I always say I'm a year older than what I really am.
So that way when I get there, nigga, I didn't lie to me.
You know?
So that's what we doing, man.
We want to push health and get these young kids making good decisions in life.
Nori, because they're confused out there.
They're killing the kids, Joe.
You got the women.
But I'm going to tell you this.
I'm proud of black China.
Yes.
Black China evolved.
Yes.
See, that's what life's about.
See, she got baptized.
She got some tattoos.
She got her plants out.
Yeah, took it.
And it's going to be so many women who are going to look at her and say, I want to change.
I want to become a better person.
She took her OnlyFans out too.
Yeah, she took her OnlyFans out.
So we got to clap for that.
Yeah, we got to.
We got to clap for that.
Because we want our women.
See, it's not that our women lost.
It's that the men that's running these streets now are not being strong to lead them.
And then when you try to lead now,
the women don't want to listen.
See, I'm a true believer of Farrakhan.
I like listening to people
who want to make our race better.
Because you got that governor here in Orlando,
DeSantis, who wants to take away black history
in the state of Florida, who really
want to make the laws in
the state of California hard
for people of color. And then we
out here just bullshitting, no disrespect, and we
don't get our point across
to the youth
to make sure that they understand
and get an education, get a good job,
stay disciplined.
You understand? These things are important
and we take advantage
of this type of platform
to push as much as we can
to get their lives together.
That's important to us, yo.
Hell yeah.
It's important.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
I see I got all your thinking.
I love this motherfucker.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't be off too.
Think champs.
But yeah, sometimes you got to think, too.
Yeah, yeah.
So, you know, you're saying that after, you know, the Eddie Murphy, Charlie Murphy incident,
what was that moment where you said, besides that incident, was like, yo, you know what?
I want to make people laugh.
Like, what was that first?
But before you answer that, you said you talked to Eddie.
What did he say?
You didn't say what he responded.
Oh, no, he said he was cool.
Like, see, it was only the community that kept it going.
But he said it was like.
Yeah, they ain't thinking about that shit.
His cousin Ray, who's a good friend of mine, believe it or not, the Eddie Murphy clan,
they love T to the motherfucking K.
They think I'm really one of the funniest comedians in the world.
You understand?
So to hear that is just phenomenal.
Because I talk to Ray every now and then.
And I remember talking to his cousin Ray.
He said, man, Nick is still talking about that shit.
He said, we love you, Nick.
Because Ray wanted to do a movie with me or something.
Because he thinks out of all the comedians in the community now, they think I'm truly the best.
That's why me, Jamie Foxx, and Marcus King.
You got a movie coming, right?
No, we're about to do a comedy special.
Oh, wow.
Like a movie, me and Jamie Foxx.
And Jamie Foxx is going to direct it.
Oh, wow.
Marcus King.
Yeah, we got something really, really special going on.
And then I'm getting ready to do this movie with Cash Money.
NBA Youngboy.
Bottleblocking.
Okay.
So we've done this Bottleblocking too.
So I'm like a...
Renaissance. Denzel'm like... Renaissance.
Denzel Washington in Training Day.
In that motherfucker.
So I was going to play a chief in this bitch.
And I got killed in the first one.
So I put the spin on it.
So a nigga hit me on Instagram.
He said, nigga, you died in the first movie.
And I said, nigga, you ain't see a funeral?
Well, TK, man, let me just tell you,
our show is about giving people their flowers,
so we want to give you your flowers face-to-face.
Man to man.
Yeah, you can get them last night.
Yeah, you can get them last night.
Oh, nigga.
That's what we want.
Y'all, listen, listen.
Snoop Dogg said it's like a Grammy.
Y'all going to make me cry out this motherfucker, yo.
Come on.
Come on, my brother.
Look at the camera there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's some player shit right here for her.
So I want to just get back to that beginning,
like that first spark,
because for a young comedian coming up right now
who, like you said,
you was hanging out with comedians
and wasn't even,
you lived next to a comedian,
hang out with comedians,
and you wasn't even thinking of that.
So what was that spark?
So for whoever's listening out there,
a young comedian at that.
See, I think growing up in Jersey City, being up in Harlem, being in New York.
Yeah.
When you think of New York when you're young, what is it about when we get money?
That's what they used to call money making Manhattan.
That's right.
Remember that?
That's right.
That's in my DNA.
So I don't have an agent.
Never had an agent. Never had an agent.
Never had a manager.
Wow.
I just like to negotiate my deals myself because I cannot allow another man to make a decision for me.
I can't sit around and wait for my phone to ring
and say, yo, we booked you for a show.
I can never live like that.
And I like to have things in my control,
so when I started the TK.network,
and I had three specials out there that did very well,
it was about in the 90s when I was trying to get specials.
I was trying to get on HBO.
It was no, it was HBO back then. Yeah, I was trying to get specials, right? I was trying to get on HBO. There was no HBO back then.
I was trying to get on Showtime
and even though I was getting into
the meetings, it was people
making decisions for you.
And what I found out when I was
I did my first comedy
album. What's the label that Bone Thugs
of Harmony was on? They were all
ruthless. No, no. And who was the distributor?
Priority? No, it was a guy out of New York ruthless. No, no. And who was the distributor? Priority?
No, it was a guy
out of New York City.
Revitality?
Revitality, yep.
I did my first comedy album
with them.
Oh, wow.
And what that showed me was
even though you want to be
with HBO,
even though you want to be
on these big things,
you know what I like?
When I know when I'm going
to release my own release.
You know what I like?
When I know what picture I want to use on my cover. You know what I like? Back I know when I'm going to release my own release date. You know what I like? When I know what picture I want to
use on my cover. You know what
I like? Back in the 90s, if you called someone
and no secretary picked up the phone and said,
oh, he's going to call you back tomorrow.
You call tomorrow, oh, he'll call you
such and such, or he left for the day.
It's a great feeling to be your own
boss. You understand?
But, everybody
can't do that.
You've got to have this certain type of ability
to discipline. Because everybody want to
wear your crown or do what you do
until they see how heavy that crown
is. And you're like, oh, you thought that motherfucker's
light. You got to give it back. So I made
a career out of this. 38 years
doing my thing. You understand?
So that's phenomenal
to do it my way.
So I'm going to do
a couple little things extra.
I was thinking about retiring.
But the way I live my life,
Ritz Carlton,
some of the best hotels
in the world.
God damn it.
What the fuck?
I'm going to retire.
You know what I'm saying?
Like jet skiing,
swimming.
This is our life.
Let me ask you
because like Monique,
we've seen Monique recently.
She was kind of complaining
about the Netflix thing, and then
a year had passed by, and it seemed like they
rectified the situation, and it almost seems
like she went right back to the situation that she
was complaining about. I saw that.
And what I've learned about other comedians,
and this is something I've learned in life,
is that since we're brothers and sisters in the comedy world, I've learned this as I have evolved in life.
They can never do no wrong.
So if she is having a problem, let's support her.
I would expect that.
Let's get her to do her thing.
If any comic is going something, I want comedians, and we all stick together and root that person on instead of saying, oh,
that's a dumb motherfucker. They don't know what they're doing
and blah, blah, blah. What I
want to show is, hey,
Monique, if that's how you
feel, I support you.
I hope the comedy world
supports you and you keep doing
your thing. I'm just doing my thing.
I love how
comedians take the truth
and they make you laugh
about the truth
even if it hurts.
The ugly truth.
Even with Monique
with her flipping it.
And it's just like
with Chris Rock too.
You know,
we have this whole debate, right?
Yes.
Where people say,
oh, Chris might have
went too far, right?
And then this one guy
on our group chat,
I don't want to say
because I don't know
if this conversation
was private or not,
but he said,
as a comedian,
some of us ain't fighters.
Some of us is comedians.
So, instead of...
He was saying,
that was Chris Brock's...
They were saying
that that was Chris Brock's
punchback.
It was like,
yo, you're going to get these jokes.
I can't beat you, Will Smith.
So I'm off.
And I was like, I felt like I had to feel that.
I was just like, yo, that's how Chris.
But there was somebody on a group chat that was like, hey, man, he went too far.
Did you think Chris Box went too far?
See, social media is crazy, right?
Because here's the thing about social media.
Social media have put ignorant people and kids at the table of grown folks' conversations.
That's a real shit.
You know what I'm saying?
See, when we was young and we got into grown folks' conversations, they used to shut the fuck up.
Grown folks talking.
You understand?
See?
Ain't no grown folks talking on Twitter.
On Twitter, you got the kids who don't, who are not mentally mature.
And if they got the followers, they looked at as grown folks.
They got mentally mature.
You'll say something that's dealing with some mature shit, but if a child who doesn't have life experiences, we're not going to say they dumb.
You're just not mature enough to understand grown-ups' thoughts, processes, or you haven't experienced enough in life to understand where we're coming.
So they give their opinion
thinking that they own something.
So when I have those problems,
I normally block people
because I'm like, you're a child.
It's a grown folks conversation.
Like, to even talk to someone,
a kid to even talk to a fucking
60-something-year-old man,
it would have been disrespectful.
Us growing, am I right or wrong?
You get motherfucking smacked.
The other day, I had to block somebody.
The dude just hit me and said, hey, man, y'all falling off.
Y'all interviewing Chuck D.
I said, oh.
Oh, my God.
Like, the kid didn't even know who Chuck D was.
I'm sorry.
That's how dumb you are.
You see what I'm saying?
I'm just trying to make it point.
Nigga, Chuck D, nigga.
Chuck D, word.
That's the type of nigga you find to go smack this nigga.
Yeah, I blocked him immediately.
You know what I'm saying? I'm saying, nigga, Chuck D, nigga. You know who the fuck Chuck D is, nigga. That's the type of nigga you find to go smack this nigga. I block him immediately. You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, nigga, Chuck D, nigga.
You know who the fuck Chuck D is, nigga?
And that's my point.
And then let me tell you how dumb the conversation got.
He was like.
You engaged this motherfucker?
I had to.
I had to.
He was like, he's like, because he wasn't even a man in public enemy.
And I just had to say,
I said, oh, man.
Oh, you kidding me, yo.
These kids,
and I just,
that's how dumb these people are.
Yes, yes.
My point is,
sometimes you don't even engage.
But with like the Chris Rock
and the Will Smith thing,
like...
He did what he was supposed to do.
As a comedian.
That's what made him feel
better as a man.
Right.
If Will would have smacked you,
would you have gave him jokes?
Here's the thing about life again.
Look at your face.
Everybody know a motherfucker
ain't running up on me.
So we know that.
But see, the thing about
both of them gentlemen,
this is where it's confusing.
Right.
See, we love Will Smith.
Absolutely.
We love Chris Rock. Right. So for that love Will Smith. Absolutely. We love Chris Rock.
Right.
So for that to happen,
to put us at odds
with each other
to even have this conversation
is embarrassing.
Like to talk about
when he hit you, TK.
It's embarrassing
to say that,
to say this about
this young man
who has allowed
a young lady
to throw him off a game, off a square
for what he has built
his whole
entire life.
Because it comes down to choices in life.
Right? And I remember one day
I was walking through the airport with
Andre 3000. And I was
having some problems with my daughter's mother at the time.
Hold on, so you and Andre just walked through the airport?
I'm just trying to figure this out.
I used to open up for those guys.
For OutKast?
Oh, nigga, listen to me.
OutKast, Luke, Jay-Z, Cash Money Millionaires,
Nelly, AMG, Second and None.
Like, nobody's resume as an opening act in stand-up
can beat mine.
It got to a point, I said,
if I ain't open enough for you, you ain't famous.
Damn.
Because I open up for everybody.
But what we knew about New York,
everybody knew TK.
When we was coming up,
it was only one hip-hop comedian.
That was TK Kirkland.
It was TK Kirkland. Right?
It was T.K. Kirkland.
Because I see the other comedians
and see with our history,
people can take a title.
It's like somebody didn't know
who Chuck D was.
Right?
But if they don't know the history
of what we're talking about,
they won't give T.K. the props.
Because they're like,
oh, what?
T.K. ain't famous.
But when you know the history
and you see 39, 38 years of this business
In our business
You have people rise and fall
I've been straight line
My whole motherfucking life
I never went up, I never went down
I've been consistent my whole life
And it was great for me
Because it keeps you humble
It keeps you out the way
And I just love what the universe it was great for me because it keeps you humble. Yes. It keeps you out the way.
And I just love what the universe has put out there for me
to win at this game of life, right?
Because what is success?
It's based on what you think of it.
You know what I tell people?
Success, if you can pay your bills,
you can get your hair cut,
take care of your family,
go on a nice trip,
you're happy,
you made a good choice,
you got the right people in your life.
Nigga, you won.
That's right.
That's success.
We give people with the most money, like they're the most knowledgeable, not thinking they probably was at the right place at the right time.
See, because as we get older.
I know some dumb rich niggas.
Yeah, see, because it's not about money.
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are you let's get back to this are you yeah but are you respected airport that's the key
andre yeah so andre 3000 would talk and he said to me
when I mentioned pain,
he said, TK,
you got to choose
which pain you want.
You can have the pain
of staying with your baby mama
or the pain leaving,
but either way
it's going to be painful.
What the fuck just happened?
So the thing about... That was some deep shit right there. What the fuck just happened? So the thing about
That was some deep shit right there.
What the fuck did you just say?
That's in life.
You got to choose
what pain you want.
And when guys say
I don't want to leave my baby mama
when girls say
I don't know what they want to do
either way
it's going to be painful.
So you have to choose
which pain you want.
You got to live with that pain
once you choose.
You know?
And it's you got to live with your choices
Right
Because that's what life's about
And once you live with it
You can feel good about yourself
Because people be flip flopping
And that's the problem
People be flip flopping
My friend Diego
He got two choices in life
Either go to Columbia
Or don't go to Columbia
Right
That's it
Yes
Yeah
You know
And I'm looking at him
He flip flops
He flip flops
They might keep him Yes They might keep him Yes, yes, yeah. You know, and I'm looking at him. And he flip-flops. He flip-flops.
They might keep him.
They might keep him.
He might keep himself.
He's going to kidnap himself out there. Yes, yes, yes.
He plays homegirl to kidnap him.
So, like, you know, what was something that you remember about Suge Knight, right?
Because this was crazy about Suge, right?
And I don't think I've ever said
this on this show.
I've actually never been in a room where
Suge been doing some gangster shit.
I've actually never seen it. I'm not saying
it didn't happen. Yeah, here's the thing about Suge.
Please, break it down.
And we don't have Suge's night stories.
People are going to be shocked when I say that.
Suge really one of the nicest niggas on the planet.
I knew you was going to say that.
I've heard that from people that interact with him.
When I was on tour with NWA, Suge Knight was me and the DLC's bodyguard.
That's right.
I remember that.
I'm like Diego.
I do remember he was your bodyguard.
He was my bodyguard.
Because me and the DLC was roommates.
In the movie, they actually show that.
They actually show that.
Okay, okay.
He was our bodyguard.
Wow.
So you don't introduce Shug to the world.
It's your fault.
No, it's fucking with you.
Choices, again.
Fucking with you.
And I love Shug, man.
What disappoints me is his choices.
Because he didn't have to go that way.
Could have been a whole nother fucking way.
And it's embarrassing that we're sitting here even discussing this because he had the ability to be one of the most phenomenal icons in the world.
This nigga was truly at Jimmy I. Bean's house with John Kennedy Jr. and all of them playing football and kicking opportunities
of a life.
Yo, if Sugar
could have been mayor
of motherfucking
Los Angeles, California.
That's how deep
this game is of life.
Like you,
because you said
you went to school.
Like, he went to school.
He went to school.
He went to ULB.
He went to University
to play football.
University of Las Vegas.
Oh, the Running Rebels.
UNLV.
And that's why
everybody, man.
So you say you got nothing but good things to say about Suge, at least for most parts.
Yes.
Even when he did things bad, it hurt me.
Didn't know what that feeling was until today because, like I said, in life you evolve.
You read more.
You watch things more.
And you get an understanding of life.
And I feel bad that he's in a prison doing 20 years, probably dying there, right?
When I know his life could have been on a yacht somewhere.
Really doing good for the community.
Really showing people love and changing those kids in Los Angeles, California, who need a Suge Knight, who needs a Nipsey Hussle.
See, those opportunities, when you get people like that,
you could change the world.
Yes, you can.
You understand what I'm saying?
It was at one point,
they said that Defro was the most powerful company
in America at that time.
Yes.
And it was from that moment on,
I just felt like something was going to go down.
I did not, never think
that he would put himself in that position
for it to actually happen.
Yeah.
I didn't even see the,
like to tell you the truth,
I never met Tupac, right?
But I never seen
even that evolving
into something
because us on the East Coast,
when Pac was blaming Biggie,
we knew that Biggie
didn't have nothing to do with it.
We know that.
We knew that.
You know that.
And without even saying it,
I'm going to put people up on game.
Yep.
Listen to the album Machiavelli.
Uh-huh.
Track 13.
Tupac tells the whole story on what happened the night that he got shot.
Machiavelli album.
Oh, the night he got shot in New York.
In New York.
Okay, okay, okay.
Because that's how it all started.
That's how it all started.
So without me saying names. Right to that track, and you'll see what he says.
Because I'm definitely going to listen to that.
But let me ask you, because you're the one who only qualified to ask this.
N.W.A. was something that we didn't see.
We was from the East Coast.
At the time, I forget, I was like, I believe we were wearing African beads.
Right.
And we had no idea what S-Curls was.
Yes, yes.
Converse sneakers, Dickies and all this.
This blew by storm.
It's before social Before the internet
Before social media
It takes time
I always say this
And Ian laughs at me
Because we didn't have
Videos
Well we had videos
But we didn't have
Access to it
When I first heard
Straight Outta Compton
I thought it was a jail
I was like
I don't ever want
To go to that jail
Right
Because I thought
I thought here
In Rikers Island
Right
And it wasn't until
Like you know
I was a kid
I wasn't traveling then
Right
But how was it Seeing the impact of NWA and not only seeing the impact?
Maybe it's a two-part question because not only seeing the impact, but you were there.
And were you knowing that you was a part of history being around?
I think about that all the time.
Like, did you know?
I don't think none of us knew where this was going.
You know, I always took advantage of opportunities.
That's what I was saying about businessmen.
If I had an agent manager, I would have met NWA.
I did that on my own.
You got to explain.
Yeah, I did it on my own because what happened, I was already doing my thing.
And a guy named, what's his name?
I can't believe my name is.
What's the guy that manages Floyd Mayweather?
Al Heyman?
Al Heyman.
Goddamn it.
Al Heyman in the 80s was a concert promoter for Buttwild Superfest.
And Bobby Brown just left New Edition.
And me and Bobby Brown is tight.
Like, if you talk to New Edition, I was their opening act as well.
You didn't have a problem with Bobby? Yeah. Listen, I was their opening act as well. You didn't rely on Bobby?
Yeah.
Listen, I don't do drugs.
But I was New Edition's opening act, and I was Belle Beuve Deveau opening act, too.
We go way back to when they used to record for MCA, and they used to stay at the hotel
on Franklin Avenue.
That's how far we go back.
So Bobby Brown leaves New Edition.
Al Heyman calls me and says,
TK, look, I got great news.
Listen, listen, listen.
Two o'clock in the morning.
He said, Bobby Brown just left New Edition.
I'm going to put this concert together.
It was his prerogative.
Yeah, he said, it's going to be,
I'm trying to sound like him.
He said, it's going to be Bobby Brown,
Al Bishore, Tina Marie, and this guy, he said, it's going to be Bobby Brown, Al Bishore,
Tina Marie, and this guy,
he whines, but the women like him.
Keep sweating. That's what he said, right?
And we want you to host. I said, yeah, I got it.
Let's go. Boom.
We do the concert. It's packed.
And Bobby Brown
does this thing. You know how you always stay on the side of the stage
to watch the other acts? So in the midst
it comes, and the DJ,
this is where they had
really turntables.
He takes a cassette
and puts in this system
for the audience to hear.
A that or cassette?
No, a cassette.
A cassette.
A real cassette?
Yeah.
This is way back.
This is 1988, 89.
And he puts it in
and hits the song
and you hear Dr. Say
tell me who you came to see.
Easy.
And the motherfucking crowd lost their mind
I've never seen
nothing like this
lost their fucking mind
I'm standing next to
Bobby Brown
I said yo
who the fuck is that
and Bobby saw them
in the audience
so NWA
yeah so NWA
he said yo T
there they go right there
I walked up the stage like I was drawn There they go right there I walked up the stage
Like I was drawn
To these niggas
I walked up the stage
I walked up to this brother
I said yo
My name is T
To the motherfucking K
That nigga looked at me
And said
I'm easy motherfucking E
I can see this
I can see this whole shit
That's what he said to me
I'm easy motherfucking E
And we hit it off
Right then I got We changed numbers Easy was my favorite He came to see me perform A week later You see this whole shit? That's what he said to me. I'm Eazy, motherfucker. And we hit it off right then.
Right.
We changed numbers.
Eazy was my favorite.
He came to see me perform a week later at the Comedy Store.
Now, it's crazy.
Suge was there.
Yes.
In WA, they came to see me perform.
And Eazy-E said, nigga, you the shit.
Let's go.
Did you just say Suge came with N.W.E.?
Suge was at the show.
He was a part of that whole movement.
I know.
I want to hear it again.
Suge was there.
He said,
nigga, let's go
and took off.
Something that I never told the world.
Do you know when I went on tour
with N.W.A.,
I got banned?
They thought I was worse
than the motherfucking group
because we was in Cincinnati.
What the fuck was you saying?
This was when hip hop was taking off
and it was rules. So we get in Cincinnati. What the fuck was you saying? This was when hip hop was taking off and it was rules.
So we get to Cincinnati, Ohio.
And I come on stage, got the people rolling and my crazy ass not understanding what they mean.
I said, that's when the movie Mississippi Burning came out.
And I said, how many people seen the movie Mississippi Burning?
And the crowd clapped. I said, all people seen the movie Mississippi Burnin' Oh shit And the crowd clapped
I said
All the white people stand up
They stood up
I said all the black people stand up
And then I said
Hang the motherfuckers
Oh my god
And nigga I was banned
On three motherfuckers shows
But what was crazy
That night
Nigga I was on the
11 o'clock news
Easy
I gotta find that tape
We gonna find it
Easy E
NWA
They all
Protected me
With freedom of speech
Wow
Because they're saying
That I should be allowed
To say what I wanna say
So
To know that
Today
That I got banned
On tour with NWA
Nigga is
That's a badge of honor
Legendary shit
Your own movie.
I can't wait for your own.
Yeah, everybody,
I hear that so much, yo.
Nah, nah, I can't do that.
Like, you know,
we've been doing this for seven years.
Yes.
And although I'm a fan of you,
I still want to do my due diligence,
so I go, I kid you not,
I had so much fun Googling you.
Like, I just had so,
it was just so much fun.
It was like your life is just a movie. It's already a movie.
It's already. Let me go back to something because do you think you managing yourself
gives you an advantage or is that something that you wish you might have indulged?
That's a good question because that's something I've been contemplating the last few months.
I said to myself,
do I want to make the next move?
To make the next move,
you're going to need an agent or somebody, a manager,
because everything in life is about connections.
Right, go-betweens.
Yeah, especially in all the years that we've been in,
people have built relationships.
So it's possible I will let somebody manage me
who understands what my terms
and rules are, right?
And what I mean by that is, all
the shit I built to this
day, you can't have.
Now, whatever you bring to the table,
you can get your percentage, but I'm
not giving away a...
I'm not giving away a motherfucking
thing just to say, I'm with an agency
or I'm with you just to recover. I ain't got time for that shit.
But in my 60s, like, in this business, sometimes you consider that's too late.
So what I've always wanted to do is stand on it.
And you were saying what I want to do is there's a reason why I don't consider myself a true stand-up guy.
Because I'm not goofy, right?
I'm not the kind of guy who tells jokes amongst his friends.
I'm quiet.
I'm laid back.
Because I came up with hustlers.
My OGs was hustlers.
We move a certain way.
I don't play certain games.
I don't even think I could do a roast.
Because I think if motherfuckers start talking about me at a table,
I'm going to the gun.
Get the gun.
And I'm coming back and I'm blasting the hell out of him.
I don't play that shit.
You cannot tell me you can't take a joke.
You cannot say that.
No, I'm like, nigga, nigga, nigga.
What the fuck do you say, nigga?
Like, I don't do that type of shit.
That's a funny shit.
Yeah, but I'm just being honest.
Like, nah, nigga.
You ain't going to roast me.
No, no, no.
Because, again, what's instilled in me is respect.
I see you at a comedy show, and a dude was missing a tooth, and you was like, yo, you're disrespectful.
Right, right.
Now, here's the crazy thing.
People think, I talk about people with a tooth missing.
Watch where I'm going now.
I talk about my tooth missing.
I talk about, but see, if your tooth is missing, here's the flip side to what I'm doing.
Because everything I do in my stand-up is about psychology. It's about, but see, if your tooth is missing, here's the flip side to what I'm doing.
Because everything I do in my stand-up is about psychology.
Either you're going to be, I said either I'm going to intimidate you or inspire you.
Either you're going to walk out mad because your tooth is missing,
or you're going to be like, you know what, he's right, I need to get my tooth fixed.
Or it could go a horrible other way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm going to get my tooth fixed.
And that's what we want.
We want to inspire.
Even though I got to make, I got to laugh, I got to hurt your feelings.
Yes, I got it.
Nigga, you got to get your tooth fixed. Nigga, what the fuck?
It's like your favorite uncle that's always offending you.
You go to his house when he's always offending you with something real.
Right, right.
You cannot go to your uncle's house.
You still got to go.
And that's what it is.
Everyone needs a little bit of chastising.
Right.
And you do it in a respectful way.
And they laugh at themselves.
They laugh at it.
Because I want them to win.
Because what kind of bitch you with
that'll be fucking you
and you smile and your tooth will miss?
Or your girl,
you see your girl got a tooth missing.
She definitely cheated on you.
But every time you're looking at her
and she smiled, you turn away because you don't want to look her dead in the face because you don't want to say nothing.
So when she smile, you don't look at her smile, would you?
You turn to act like you don't see the tooth missing.
I can't look at a woman and your motherfucking tooth missing.
You know?
I tell people all the time, like, if you come to my show and you got tooth missing, I say, you should have told your bitch,
nigga. Look, we love TK.
But baby, I'm going to get your tooth fixed. We'll catch
that nigga the next time he come through.
Yeah, I'll do that shit in a minute, yo.
Let's talk about
everyone's favorite.
Who raised you?
Who raised you? It's a classic.
I didn't know it was going to be... I didn't
know when I came up with who raised you, it was going to be that. Because let me tell you how it classic. I didn't know it was going to be... I didn't know when I came up with Who Raised You
it was going to be that.
Let me tell you how it happened.
I date some fine women.
Goddamn, make some noise.
Shout out to the women.
I was dating this young lady
and she was getting on my nerves
to the point I said,
I got to meet your parents.
Because I wanted to know who the fuck sent you into the world unprepared.
My bitch, you so gorgeous that your father or mom didn't give you rules of life.
So I'm like, who raised you?
So I'm serious.
I'm serious as a motherfucker.
Because there's a lot of gorgeous women out here who don't know shit.
They don't know nothing.
And that's why us young men, when you meet a woman,
whether you want to be with her or not,
give her a game to survive to be with the nigga she is really going to be with.
See, it takes a certain type of play to say such a shit.
See, because most of the men ain't going to really kick it with the girl they with.
You're going to fuck, you're going to have a good time, you're going to go to movies, have a slice of pizza, or might go to Prime 112, right?
But what you do is, you see her.
You're like, you know what, I know I ain't going to be with her really, but let me give her knowledge because the next nigga she fuck with might be a lame nigga.
And she can get that nigga game on how this is biased.
So that nigga's impressed.
Like, yo, I thank you for changing my life.
Because a woman, a nigga.
The dude come back to her to you.
Right, exactly.
And say, thank you for changing my life.
Right, exactly.
Because here's the thing.
I get women to this day who thank me for changing their lives years ago.
And this is real.
You know, I've had sex with women right before their husbands or boyfriends got out of prison.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, good luck, Chuck.
Yeah, and the thing about it is they'll get with their guy and be faithful to him.
But while the nigga was in jail I was fucking her.
I was giving her gain.
Nigga, that's why you got a nice house.
You got a car.
You were preparing her.
Because I'm teaching the bitch
how to hustle.
You know?
And I don't mean street shit.
I'm talking about go get an education.
Do your squats every morning.
You know what I'm saying?
Do your sit-ups and shit. You know what I'm saying? Do your sit-ups and shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Do your sit-ups.
Take care of your hair.
Take care of your skin.
Because women think they can come to bed looking any kind of way.
A woman got to always have her ass showered when she in a relationship.
Because you never know a nigga want to eat your pussy.
You never know when a nigga want to fuck you real good.
And you always want to, you know, because what I say, you always want to give
a woman a PDD. You know what a PDD is?
A proper dick down. You know what I'm saying?
You know? And if a woman's off
a moment, nigga, a bitch
will lose three, five strokes that night.
You know what I'm saying? And I think all
women should get their strokes. Like, your
stroke gang is cold
when a bitch is attractive and she smell good.
If your girl laying in bed and she got a little odor, you know, like,
bitch, you ain't showering?
You know, yeah, you ain't going to fuck her.
But if she got the little short booty shorts on and shit, she smelling good, nigga.
You know, you might be tired, but you go to sleep, right?
And you wake up 3, 4 o'clock in the morning.
And you fucking real good.
You know what I'm saying?
And see, to be a real G, as you get older and a girl works, every man, y'all listen to me.
If your girl work at 7, you should get her a five and eat her pussy every morning.
We should go to work.
Make her cum, but don't give her no dick.
And she'll say, you don't want none? And just wipe your mouth and say, no, that's for you. Get go to work. Make her come, but don't give her no dick. And she'll say,
you don't want none?
And just wipe your mouth
and say, no, that's for you.
Get ready for work.
Okay.
That's player shit.
That's for you?
You know what I'm saying?
That's player shit.
And then,
or wash it down.
A hot towel.
You like hot towels.
I'm a hot nigga.
Fuck a girl real good
to the point her legs are shaking.
You got a whole thing with hot towels right next to the bed?
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
You have...
See, I'm going to put you up on game.
Not only do you have a hot towel to put on a woman's pussy after you fuck her,
you have a towel warmer.
See, you niggas don't know about towel warmers.
That's what I'm saying.
You see the niggas look.
You have a towel warmer.
Like the thing at the barbershop and towel warmer and you put it between her legs.
Watch this.
You put it between her legs
to go from the navel
to the back of her motherfucking spine
and you turn into,
put it on the side
and put it in the fetal position
and you take a blanket
and put it right on your shoulder
how your mother used to put you to sleep
back in the day
and kiss around on your forehead
and tell her goodnight and go in the room and watch ESPN.
Until you turn them off.
I'll be honest.
Look at the niggas writing.
I read somewhere that they said TK said
He fucked
10,000
Yes I was exaggerating
Okay
Yeah I was exaggerating
Yeah
I was
Let's just say
I had a
I had a beautiful run in life
That's
That's beating
World Chamberlain numbers
Yeah no
He was at 20,000
Oh he was at 20,000
Yeah he was at 20,000
I thought
Yeah
And when I think
And I would never
When I think about that
When I put all that We't want to put all that
Weigh and tear on my hip muscles
Right
You know what I'm saying
You know
No no no
That's too much
And it's just not that
I put in work
When I have
When I make love
It ain't a game to me
Right
See some guys fuck
Because the pussy's there
Yeah
Mentally
I gotta be prepared
Because I believe
I'm giving y'all some game.
See, I believe in sapiosexual.
See, sapiosexual is the
turn on of the mind.
Are you mentally stimulated
by a woman?
See, as you get older,
yeah, you see the titties
and the ass.
That's good.
But can you connect like Wi-Fi?
Is the connection
between your mind,
your mind as we get older,
it's about can I connect with your mind?
Because you don't want to just put your dick in anything.
Because my dick getting cold.
Some people talk about it and brag,
but I'm an AARP member.
Niggas that know.
Sonny, Sonny, Sonny.
Sonny, Sonny.
To know, to know.
I mean, think about it.
I ain't on no blood pressure medicine, nigga.
My dick still working. I mean, think about it. I ain't on no blood pressure medicine, nigga. My dick's still working.
I'm happy.
I'm here with the drink champs.
Nigga.
You see, man, life is beautiful, yo.
Y'all AARP niggas be bragging, man.
You're going to laugh.
The other thing about it, everybody that's the AARP members are all cocky.
Oh, y'all got a little cocky.
Yeah, yeah, you got to be.
It's like you're $8 over AHA.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right, exactly.
And see, as you get older, believe it or not,
everything is about discount and points.
It's true.
You ain't got to be older to do that.
That's the game.
I'm points.
Nigga, when you're shopping and you're getting points, nigga.
But see, the points I have you think is really something, right?
You know, I go to Walgreens and I wear glasses.
You know, I got to wear readers.
You know, I got to wear readers.
I don't have to see far away, but I have to read.
And over years, I have bought thousands of them, you know,
because I put them in different places in the houses.
One day I go to Walgreens and I'm putting in my number
because the lady said,
put your number in there,
you got the number to get a point.
And she said, oh my God, sir,
you got 950,000 points.
I said, what?
She said, sir, can you believe that?
You got 950,000 points.
Would you like to use that
towards your purchase?
I said, hell, motherfucker, yeah.
Run now.
I said, wait, wait,
how much is 950,000 points?
That bitch said $1.17.
First off, I didn't know Walgreens had a point system.
Yeah, they got a point system.
I was hanging on top.
I was like, wait a minute.
I didn't know Walgreens had a point system.
Yeah, they got a point system.
They sure do.
Oh, I live by United.
I live by United point system. Yeah. I got a point system. They sure do. I live by United. I live by United point system.
Yep.
I'm American.
I'm American.
I'm a Marriott Bonvoy.
Yep.
And Al Hilton honors.
Yes, yes, yes.
I'm with you all the way.
Yes, yes, yes.
And when you get to
Ambassador,
Yes, yes, I'm that.
I'm coming.
I'm coming.
I'm coming.
Oh, yeah, you're coming.
It's coming.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm talking to you.
You know, they sent a car
to the airport to get you.
Damn, I ain't get that far. When you become Ambassador, nigga, they sent a car to the airport to get you. Damn, I didn't get that far.
When you become ambassador,
nigga, they send a car.
I was ambassador for one year,
and then that was it.
But I didn't get that big.
Yeah, I'm up there, dog.
That's a...
Check out 4 p.m.?
You can get a big suite,
but then they upgrade you to the. Yes, yes, yes. You know? You can get a big suite, but then they upgrade you
to the presidential suite?
Yes, yes.
Aw, nigga.
For good prices?
Yes.
Nigga, what?
You know, normally
you can stay at a hotel
two or three days.
Once you have
a Marriott Bomb Boy,
niggas, eight days.
Yeah, yeah, I ain't gonna lie.
I can show you right now.
I got a million points
in Marriott.
Oh, that's awesome, yo.
And Hilton Honors. So you know you can stay at a hotel. So I saw you in points in Marriott. Oh, that's awesome, yo. And Hilton Honors.
So you know you can stay a whole day.
So I saw you in Puerto Rico on the balcony.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was proud of you.
I'm Puerto Rican.
I'm half Puerto Rican.
But I saw you on the ocean over the balcony.
I said that's the way to do it.
Yeah, I like that, yo.
That makes some noise for me.
Yeah, yeah, right.
I said he out there doing his thing.
And that's the thing we want to stress to the young kids, too.
Yeah.
Getting passports. Traveling. Yes. And traveling. That's me got my son, Nassim. He just got his passport. And that's the thing we want to stress to the young kids, too, is getting passports.
Travel.
And travel.
My son, I see he just got his passport.
My son, the cop.
I want to bring him out with me.
Because here's the thing.
People always say, I can't wait for you to come to my city.
I've been starting to tell people, why don't you travel to come see me?
Stop waiting for me to come to see you.
Come see me.
Because I'm all over the world. I may not make it to your city.
Come see
me. And that'll get people
to get their mindset. Because when you
read a lot, 90% of the
population ain't been on a plane.
That's crazy.
Haven't left their city, haven't left their state, haven't left their country.
I've never heard of that That's statistics?
Yeah statistics
90% have not been on a plane
That's insane yo
Son you better be glad you met me
You was in that percentage
Before you met me at EFN
I can guarantee you
He didn't make it down from Boston to Miami
He drove
Yeah so we want to push passports it down from Boston to Miami. Yeah, he drove.
Yeah, so we want to push passports.
I mean, even though they got a backlog in passports now,
so if you're really trying to go somewhere,
you can't go. Miami got to hook up everything.
But legally, you can't
get your passport right away. It takes like
three months compared to years ago. You can get
like six weeks or something.
Years ago, you could make a mock ticket
and go to the
passport place.
There's a lot of shit.
That's true.
Smoking cigarettes
in planes and shit.
Yeah, the world's changed
a lot, right?
It changed a lot.
Was you ever on a plane
smoking a cigarette?
No, no, no.
But I remember them days.
I remember.
Pan Am.
Pan Am.
Remember Pan Am?
Remember when everybody
got food?
Yeah, and the food was good.
The food was good.
I remember you used to
stay at the Pan Am Hotel.
I used to be like, why?
They had a hotel?
In Queens.
Remember what you used to say in Queens?
Oh, yeah.
I just said it.
I just said it.
Yo, but what up?
Cabo came over to see me.
Yo, but what's your problem, man?
But what being on Park Avenue, when you're driving down Park Avenue, you see the Pan
Am building.
Yeah.
Remember that shit back in the day?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Aw, nigga, that shit was awesome.
Look at the youngins.
They looking at us like, who the fuck is Pan Am?
Hey, Pan Am was that. It was that joint. Pan Am was us like, who the fuck is Pan Am? Pan Am was that joke.
Pan Am was that shit.
And TWA.
And TWA.
And TWA.
And nobody wanted to go there.
And what about Northwestern?
Oh, yeah.
I remember Northwestern.
You remember Northwestern?
Airlines?
Aw, man, back in the day, yo.
And I flew on Hooters Airline once.
I ain't not going to lie.
Hooters had an airline?
Hooters had an airline.
I didn't know Hooters had an airline.
Hooters.
Yeah, I never knew that. You're lying. For the God. Hooters? Hooters had an airline? Hooters had an airline. I didn't know Hooters had an airline. Hooters. Yeah, I know. I haven't knew that.
Liars.
For the God.
Hooters?
Hooters had an airline.
I think they still do.
Yeah, it's like, I don't know what it is, but it was a Hooters airline.
Wow.
I was on Hooters.
Hey!
Okay, so what do we talk about?
So a lot of shit.
Man, after Pan Am, got me fucked up still.
Y'all got quick time?
Oh, yeah.
I'm ready.
Oh, you sent it?
Yeah, yeah, I sent. You ready to start it off?
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We didn't play this last time TK was here.
Okay.
No, and we didn't play it with Chuck D neither, right?
No, we didn't get it.
Man, we need to have Chuck D.
Is the Chuck D interview up?
Nah.
It's coming out this week.
Okay, I would love it.
We need a part two of that because we had two episodes that day.
Yeah.
We had to kind of rush it.
Okay, okay, yeah.
And Chuck D deserves the whole day.
He deserves the whole day, yo.
Public enemy.
A week, shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And Marlon too because I feel like Marlon rushed. No, Marlon was amazing. And he rushed it day. Public enemy. A week, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Marlon, too,
because I feel like
Marlon's amazing.
And he rushed it, too.
Who, Marlon Wayans?
Yeah, Marlon.
Isn't he phenomenal?
Oh, my God.
We laughed so much about it.
He's a nice young man.
I remember he was a baby.
Do you consider yourself
the gangster of comedy?
No, I stay away from anything
that has a negative beginning.
Because that was a lot of things
that kept popping up, too.
Yeah, Gangster of Comedy.
They were labeling you.
That's not what you labeled yourself.
That was me in the 90s.
Another comic has that now.
I'm not going to show other people love.
And the King, and not that I'm hating, this is all about me.
And then the other thing is the King of Underground,
another comic has that as well.
Both of those titles was mine.
What I realized in life,
don't nobody give a fuck.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't care about titles.
Titles, awards, whatever.
Right.
Just show up to my shows.
I'm going to give you the game.
I'm going to give you the knowledge.
We're going to have a good time.
Take pictures with you
and everybody going about their business.
As far as titles and all that,
remember what I said at the beginning.
A life is about evolving.
I have evolved in life as a great person.
I love who I am as a man.
That's important.
Do you think that's the maturity that got you there
or experiences?
Experiences.
But it has to be coupled with maturity.
Yeah, yeah.
Because if you ain't been through nothing,
you can't teach nobody nothing.
Right, right.
Right?
So it's very important that you go through things, you know, and to hope to live long enough that these kids and other people you can share your knowledge with.
Because what's also amazing that the kids need to understand, when you see an elder person, you got to really respect them.
Like, they don't want to listen.
And I tell people, older people are your GPS.
That was GPS before modern day GPS.
They are here to guide you.
Even if they fucked up their life, guess what?
It's not because they're successful.
They fucked up their life because of choices, and they're going to share with you how they fucked up.
So you don't be in the same shoes that they're going to share with you how they fucked up so you don't be
in the same shoes that they're in.
I always take advice from crackheads.
I'm being honest.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm being honest.
Except the part where they give you the crack.
Of course not.
But everything else,
when I run into somebody
that's in the streets,
that's fucked up,
that says something
that has knowledge,
for some reason,
I listen to them.
Yes.
I might,
you know what I mean?
But it's like,
all right, cool, I listen to them. Because again, might, you know what I mean? But it's like, all right, cool,
I'll listen to them.
Because again,
it was a choice that they made,
right?
Everything we do,
come down to choices,
y'all.
That's why you got to think
two, three times.
And any of us
are a split second away
from that same choice.
Absolutely.
We could have all made that choice.
Yes.
That was one of the smartest things
Kanye West ever said on the show.
He said that he visited a jail
and he said that
he saw everyone
in the jail
was RZA's
wrong version of RZA.
Like,
a wrong version
of Young Doug.
You know what I'm saying?
Right, right, right.
And you think about it,
like,
all of us was one bad
decision.
It's true.
One Newport away
from,
you know what I mean?
And that's why
you got to be so thankful.
Like, I have the craziest dreams of like robbery,
robbery,
being in trouble all the time.
So I'm reminded almost every day how blessed that I am in this life.
And I like that.
I mean,
one time I,
um,
I thought about hurting somebody really,
really bad.
And I had this vision of me in jail already.
Oh wow.
And when I came into the cell, I was already in there and I had this vision of me in jail already and when I came
into the cell
I was already in there
and I turned around
oh you was already
in the cell
yeah this was my vision
and I turned around
and I said
yo why are you in here
and I said
cause a bitch lied to me
and I turned back around
and looked out the window
and I turned back around
and I said
yo you gave up your life
cause a bitch lied to you
my point that I'm making
we all get lied to
is only words
and we shouldn't take it so seriously
that we want to give
up our fucking freedom.
You understand?
That's so important because we get upset about
oh, this bitch lied to me.
Nigga, you hurt.
See, what people don't understand, and a friend used to tell me
this in Vegas, no matter how
tough you think you are, no matter how violent
you want to be to someone, they got
a place for you.
They will lock your ass to fuck up
and they ain't playing.
And we all know it's easy to get in.
Hard to get the fuck out, dog.
Because when you get locked, for some reason
they find other shit.
Real talk.
Maybe in another state, now you got
to be transported.
Or the shit you do inside. Or the shit you do inside.
To survive.
This game is called Quick Time with Slime.
We're going to give you an either or choice.
You can be politically correct and say both.
If you're politically correct and say both,
then you'll take a shot.
You single?
Okay, I'm going to holler at you.
I love the confidence. I love the confidence.
I love the confidence.
As you know,
we have no females around,
so we had to put females
addition,
so you know everyone.
We're just smart.
We're just smart.
Okay.
Richard Pryor
or Paul Mooney?
Ooh, both.
Take a shot, nigga.
Hold on.
Take a shot.
Damn, y'all had your shot ready?
Oh, that's right. Jamie hooked you up. My bad. Yeah, she asked you if you on, hold on. Take a shot. Damn, y'all had your shot ready? Mm-hmm.
Oh, that's right, Jamie hooked you up.
My bad.
Yeah, she asked you if you wanted the thing on top of your
thing.
Damn, what the fuck was that?
It was delicious.
Yeah, that's owned by a black man.
That's Deleon.
Deleon, baby.
Deleon, baby.
That was good.
Okay, ooh, this is another hard one.
Tupac or DMX?
Both, nigga.
Damn.
Do you got stories for both?
Here's the thing, I got two stories with Tupac and a story with DMX.
We need them both.
Okay, damn.
Take your shot first.
Yeah.
Cheers, cheers, cheers.
Mm-hmm.
We would like to hear it.
Love Tupac.
And Tupac, before he really blew up, we used to do shows at Jack the Rapper in Atlanta.
Before he blew up, Digital Underground days or right after Digital Underground?
After Digital Underground.
And I remember it was me, him, we was hanging out.
What's crazy, and I'll go back to that.
When Biggie Smalls died, I was with Biggie the day he died.
When Tupac died, I was with Tupac the day he died as well.
We're going to be careful how we hang out with you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that was just during the day we was hanging out. So,
Tupac is the reason how I got the name
T to the motherfucking K.
What?
Because we was at
Jack the Rapper
and he's like,
yo, what's up?
He's the motherfucking K?
Yeah, he's like,
T to the motherfucking K.
That's how
T to the motherfucking K started.
On the
Rough Rider Tour,
two situations with the Rough Riders.
With DMX now.
Yeah, with DMX.
We had just did a concert, I think, in Kentucky.
We all getting on the bus and we driving.
And I love DMX.
DMX saw these fine women in the car.
And he told the bus driver to stop.
DMX jumped out the car.
I mean, jumped off the bus, got in the car with the women,
drove three blocks,
hit another car,
and got arrested.
Sounds like DMX.
But he couldn't drive.
Yeah.
So when he got out the next day,
I said,
nigga, what the fuck was you doing?
You can't drive.
The other thing about DMX
and the Rough Riders.
He's a race car driver, though.
Yeah.
The other thing about DMX
and the Rough Riders, they show me mad love.
I'm going to share this with the world.
Cash Money Millionaires, Rough Riders, got to Boston on that tour.
You was hosting that tour.
I was hosting that tour.
That was historic, yeah.
And I didn't know there was beef going on.
Oh, because Boston made men?
Yeah, I didn't know what was popping.
Let's take a dig away.
We get backstage and a fight break out.
And I'm standing in the middle.
Like, I'm actually in the middle.
They respect me so much.
Do you know these niggas fighting around me?
I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
Let me tell you a story.
No disrespect to the niggas in Boston.
Them niggas from the Rough Riders can fight, niggas.
Listen to me.
Them niggas bought the motherfucking heat.
I was in the middle.
They sent niggas to the hospital.
There's a lot of knives.
Yeah. Them motherfucking Rough. They was not Yeah. Them
motherfucking Rough Riders was not
mother. Like I seen it.
But the love that they
showed, they was stabbing niggas around
around me. And not one scratch
on you. Like I was right
there in the middle. The only thing I hate about that
fucking tour is that
they banned us again in four other
cities because we was on our way to Miami
and this when Juvenile had backed that ass up do you know we never got to do back that ass up in
Miami and I was already famous before cash money right but it was getting ready to come there I
was I was looking forward to hosting that bitch oh Oh my God. Let's take a shot. In Miami, nigga.
Salute.
Salute to Miami.
That was a great fucking story.
Yeah, yeah.
Shout out to Miami.
And he picked,
I don't know who he picked.
He picked Dwayne Maxson.
He said both.
I said both.
And we drank it.
Yeah, you can't go against this.
That's crazy.
This is a good one.
In Living Color or Mad TV?
No, in Living Color.
In Living Color, for sure.
That one's not good at all.
Yeah, Live in Color.
Yeah, for sure.
It looked good on paper, but once I read it, it didn't sound good.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a no-brainer.
Okay, this is a good one.
Oh, this is a good one.
You want to take this one?
Next two.
Okay.
Okay.
You taking it?
No, no, no.
I got it.
Okay.
Eddie Murphy or Martin Lawrence?
Eddie Murphy, nigga.
Hands down.
No more beefing the Murphys.
No, nigga. Hands down. Don't want to leave it to Murphy. No, no.
The thing about Eddie Murphy, no matter what the kids think who they star is today.
Yeah.
See, I was there.
Yeah.
I hung with these niggas.
Eddie Murphy's one of the most phenomenal superstars that ever was on this motherfucking planet.
It wasn't just stand-up.
He had showmanship.
He had class. He had this
aura about him
that was just phenomenal.
And that's why I'm glad to say today that me
and that nigga born on the same day.
Listen, I'll tell you,
Kevin Hart is my man, right? And a lot of times
we have this debate, like, you know, because
everyone said there could only be one black
comic, and I always hate that rumor. But I always, like, debate the impact of, like, you know, because everyone said there could only be black, or like one black comic, and I always hate that rumor.
But I always like,
debate the impact
of like the Kevin Hart
or whatever.
One thing I say about
Eddie Murphy is when
Eddie Murphy movie came out,
people got dressed
as if it was an event
to go to.
Like if they were going
to a live show.
It was like,
I remember like,
seeing people go to
like an Eddie Murphy movie
and them thinking
they're being filmed.
But that's the way, but that's the way we dressed back in the day.
Even when we went to the airport, we had suit jackets and pants on.
We would never rock sneakers and a hoodie the way people dressed.
And there's nothing against what is going on because I dress in hoodies now too.
But back in the day, we really overdid it.
That shit was crazy to be on a plane that many hours with a wrinkled ass shirt and a tie.
You got the next one? Like you're going to church on a plane. many hours with a wrinkled ass shirt and a tie. You got the next one?
Like you going to church on the plane.
That's horrible.
All right, Red Fox or Bill Cosby?
Both.
Okay.
I love the fact he ain't fighting it.
Let's go.
Yeah, both.
Because both of them are phenomenal.
And this one, I heard you talk about both of these.
So I'm very curious.
Snowfall or BMF?
Snowfall.
Snowfall.
Snowfall.
Oh, motherfucker.
I'm going to tell you something.
This is what I always thought about you and Ice-T.
It's like Ice-T was like from the West Coast.
Yes.
That kind of like East Coast adapted him.
That's so true.
That is true, right?
And shout out to Ice-T.
And the West Coast
fully adapts you.
And what's so great about,
and then when,
you forget things,
but being on this show
and getting my flowers
and sharing with the world
my journey is,
I used to tour Ice-T as well.
Ice-T's such a legend.
And let me explain to you
what's so cool.
It was him, his guys, his wife,
back in the day.
Do you know Ice-T and his wife
used to help me write jokes on the bus?
Was that Darlene?
Darlene.
I'm talking about...
I like how everybody know her name.
Yeah.
Darlene and all the...
I'm talking about we were super,
like a family.
Wow.
It was that close.
And even when Ice-T met his wife
The other one
Coco
Yeah Coco
Coco
We was on the train together
And me and Ice-T was talking
And I love sharing this
He said that he got married to her
Because that woman understood him
Right
He said TK I married her
Because she understood my life
She understood how I was moving
Because you know me and Ice-T
To this day
Very close We don't see each other as much But it's like them cousins That you love But you don't see that much life she understood how I was moving cause you know me and Ice-T is to this day very close
we don't see each other as much but it's like
them cousins that you love but you don't see that much
he's a great dude
Ice-T is my
man for life shout out to
one of the only
not the only the one of the most fly
ass niggas in the game cause that nigga
swag was so cold and what I
like about him even when he had a little situation
with his wife
with the other nigga
in Vegas,
he handled it
such like a G.
Yeah, class.
Right?
It was no fighting,
no divorce.
The nigga,
I'm going to tell you
how I think I went.
The nigga macked her
so motherfucking cold
that she fell in line.
And that's what I want
to talk about with men.
That's why your vocabulary
got to be a certain way.
Right. The way you move in life. He didn't show emotion. Yeah. The way you move in life That's what I want to talk about with men. That's why your vocabulary got to be a certain way.
The way you move in life. He didn't show emotion.
Yeah.
The way you move in life got to be a certain way.
That when a woman, you talk to a woman and she understand how you moving, she'll respect you.
If you have problems with a woman, that means your leadership is fucked up and a bitch don't respect you.
So start checking yourself and your character first as a man
and then you'll get somebody
who will respect and honor what you say.
And that's all I'm going to say on that one.
Shout out to motherfucking Ice-T.
From T to the motherfucker.
But hold up, before we go on,
talking about Snowfall,
were you around any of that
when Freeway Ricky was around?
The thing about all that, without incriminating myself.
Right, right.
I like that.
Yeah, the thing about-
And we had Freeway on here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All of them knew me.
All the drug dealers hired you.
Listen to me.
In the 80s, I had the streets on lock.
That was all that was drug dealer money in the 80s, yeah.
I had the- That must have been a time.
When I say I had the streets on lock,
if you was a hustler,
if you was a bad bitch fucking with a hustler,
everybody fucked with T to the motherfucking K.
Goddamn, T to the motherfucking K.
You know what I'm saying?
Everybody fucked with T to the motherfucking K.
Yeah, we had,
and I had all the clubs.
I had like six,
you know how comedians doing the clubs now? I had six. I had the Palace. I had all the clubs. I had like six, you know, comedians doing the clubs now.
I had six.
I had The Palace.
I had Golden Tail.
I had Birdland West.
Just a few others
that I just can't remember
what I'm talking about.
But every comic,
when they was coming up,
and they'll tell you,
had to come through T.K. Kirkland.
Martin Lawrence,
D.L. Hughley,
the Joe Tories, God bless the Ricky Harris who passed away a few years ago, A.J. Johnson. I had every motherfucking club
in L.A.
Look up A.J. Johnson.
Yeah, shout out to A.J.
Queen Latifah or MC Lyte?
Both.
Okay.
Yeah, I love both of them. I like MC Lyte.
I love MC Lyke And I love Queen
Solid
Solid
Okay
This mama wanna get into me
Okay I wasn't ready
Okay
You got it
You got it
Robin Harris or Bernie Mac
Aw nigga
Robin Harris nigga
Oh motherfucking day
Robin Harris
Mmhmm
Go to the next one
Damon Wayans Or Marlon next one. Damon Wayans
or Marlon Wayans?
Oh, Damon Wayans, dog.
For sure.
I saw Damon live
not too long ago out here.
Nigga, Damon,
he's hilarious.
His jokes are so
fucking hilarious.
Clever.
Yeah, yeah.
And it was like slow-paced,
but it was perfect.
Yeah, like his,
you don't see it coming.
Yeah.
It's like that drink.
Motherfuck, dog. He was hilarious. You don't see it coming? Yeah. It's like that drink. Am I fucked up?
He was hilarious.
And he had the city on point, too.
You know, comedians do stand-up.
They try to do jokes for the city.
His shit was on point.
Yeah, he's phenomenal, yo.
He's phenomenal.
Coming to America or Harlem Nights?
Coming to America.
Yeah, no doubt.
Part one, obviously, right?
Huh?
Part one, obviously, right? Yeah huh part one obviously right yeah part one okay yeah part one yeah one of the coldest scenes in there is when um
the father came out the uh limo and then the wind was throwing roses on the motherfucking
nigga they can see that shit they got his own money yeah guys oh yeah blowing the roses down
yeah that's cold that's cold naughty by nature or Lords of the Underground?
Naughty by nature.
Shout out to both.
OPP.
Shout out to both.
Yeah, shout out to both, though.
All right, this one, I don't know.
Okay.
This might be a little controversy for you.
Okay.
Dave Chappelle or Kevin Hart?
I love your honesty.
I'll say both.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
I love your honesty. Yeah, I'll say both. I love your honesty. I love your honesty. I'll say both. Let's do it. Let's do it. I love your honesty.
Yeah, yeah.
I'll say both.
Salud.
What's so great about comedy compared to when I started,
everybody now has developed their own lane.
There's enough for everybody.
If you don't like a certain comedian, don't go see that comedian.
If you like that comedian, you go see that comedian.
Let me ask you a personal question.
You can answer this whichever way you want.
Has there ever been somebody that people consider that's very, very funny and they call you to ghostwrite them jokes?
No, never.
Okay, but if that was to happen, right?
Let's just say, give you an example.
This is totally off.
I'm just making it up.
This first name that comes to my head.
Mike Epps, right?
Let's say Mike Epps is doing a special,
and Mike Epps says, you know what?
I want to brush up.
I'm going to give you a tea cake.
Does that make you still respect this comedian?
Yeah.
Because he needs help?
Yeah, you still respect him.
Okay, you still respect him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because in hip hop, if I was to get a rhyme ghost wrote,
to the people who purchased the war report,
my...
It's through the way.
But then in R&B,
if I'm an R&B act,
I can get Babyface to come in,
help me write a rhyme,
help me produce,
and no one looks at me like that.
So is it like that for comedians?
No, and again, that's kids sitting at the table with grown folks.
Okay, okay.
And let me explain to you why.
Yes, please.
When we was growing up, when Will Smith was doing what he was doing, he was a sellout.
He's not doing—
Oh, you're talking about his music?
Yeah.
Okay.
Right?
Because he was really going a whole other direction.
Right.
But in actuality, he did the play.
What Will Smith did was the lick.
Right.
Because the lick was to get paid and become a fucking star.
The Hollywood guy.
You understand what I'm saying?
And Will is a little ill because Will, if you look at his writers, when he was doing some of this, some of these writers was Nas.
Right.
That was on, like Nas wrote Summertime?
Yeah, yeah. He wrote the Miami joint. He wrote the Miami joint. And the Miami joint was Sum. Right. That was on, like Nas wrote Summertime? Yeah, yeah.
He wrote the Miami joint.
He wrote Get Jiggy With It,
Summertime,
the Miami joint.
Shut the fuck up.
No, we didn't.
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't know that
until not too long ago.
Yo, Nas.
Nas, yes.
Like,
one of them,
he's right here.
So that makes it
even more genius.
That's what makes it
more genius, yes.
Because I'm going to pay
my peers, and then we all going to bring it down to where I need to go. And that's what makes it more genius, yes. Because I'm going to pay my peers,
and then we all going to bring it down to where I need to go.
And that's what I was talking about.
Let me just tell you something.
On the flip side, I wasn't at those sessions at all.
But I went to a session with Kobe Bryant,
and I automatically wrote three rhymes because I said,
obviously, Kobe's not going to write his shit.
He refused to take my rhyme.
Kobe was like, no, I'm going to rhyme with you.
That's like Kobe, you might not fit.
But he's intelligent.
That nigga intelligent.
But my bad.
So in the comedy world, let me get back to the question.
In the comedy world, if a person gets help with their material, is that?
No, nobody think about that.
Nobody thinking about that?
Mm-mm.
Okay.
And I think there's, because you use an example of, like, for example, in hip-hop or in music in general, producers are always co-writing even with the rappers, too.
But the thing about it with comedy, the reason why comedy and rap, to me, is that's his story.
So how can I help him with his story?
But bouncing ideas I don't think is the same as ghostwriting.
See, and the great thing about what I've done with comedy is I brought hip-hop
and comedy together.
Yes.
See, no other comedian
can say
they brought hip-hop
and comedy together.
Right.
Because no one
has opened up
for so many
rap artists
and R&B.
R&B is cool,
but hip-hop,
I got it on lock.
Yeah.
Got it on lock.
And the fact is...
And it's a harder crowd
to make laughs. Thank you. Oh. And the fact is. And it's a harder crowd. That's my point.
Thank you.
And I used to have.
Give me an example.
I got a deal on the table today.
I'm opening up for Drew Hill.
Now, the reason why I'm bringing that up is because even when they started, I was there opening that.
Wow.
Back in the day.
See, that's how many motherfuckers I opened up for
You know
That's what
I'm sitting back
Like I said
Sitting here just thinking
Like you don't really take
Heave to what you accomplished
Nigga
T to the mother
T to the mother
Okay
Ooh
Okay
Easy E or Nipsey Hussle
Ooh
Nigga
But that's a slam dunk
Easy E nigga Yeah Cause without Easy E There wouldn't be no Yeah Easy E or Nipsey Hussle? Ooh, nigga. But that's a slam dunk. Easy E, nigga.
Yeah, because without Easy E, there wouldn't be no...
Yeah, Easy E.
And Recipe to Both.
Oh, they got Recipe to Both.
Yes, yes, Recipe to Both.
Okay, I like this one.
My producer's trying to get freaky with this.
Okay.
Monique or Tiffany Haddish?
Monique for sure.
Okay.
Yeah, Monique for sure.
You answered that pretty fast.
Yeah, because based on experience, right?
Yeah. You answered that pretty fast. Yeah, because based on experience, right?
Tiffany is a great actress, and she fits right into what the world is today in stand-up comedy.
It's internet comedy, et cetera.
Right.
But not on the level of a stand-up as Monique.
Monique came up with the big dog.
She's the queen of comedy.
Yeah, Monique came up with the T to the motherfucker, the Bernie Max.
She came up with all of us.
You know what I'm saying?
So that era of us when we came up, that was one of the greatest. It was pioneering.
Yeah, that's one of the greatest stand-up comedy eras ever.
No, I agree.
I agree.
Jim Carrey or Robin Williams?
Robin Williams.
What's the next one?
Yeah, Robin Williams.
Robin was one of my favorites.
Yeah.
It just said that he was depressed all the fucking time.
I couldn't believe that.
I heard Anthony Bourdain was depressed.
I was like, for real?
Yeah.
See, if I'd have met them niggas, I'd say, nigga, just go jog, nigga.
Work the fuck out.
People don't want to go work out.
I guarantee you.
It's true.
If you go run five miles on a treadmill, nigga,
every time you feel bad, you're going to go to sleep.
You ain't going to think about killing your motherfuckers.
I guarantee it.
I agree with that.
Red Man or Benny Siegel?
Who raised these people who wrote these questions?
That's really a phenomenal thing, but...
Benny Siegel.
Oh, you're not going Jersey? Okay.
And let me tell you why, yo.
I like this.
See, when Benny Siegel was on Rock...
Yeah.
See, Damon Dash and him had a philosophy.
They was never going to let no one outsell Jay-Z.
Benny, have you listened to Benny Siegel's shit?
Of course.
Benny Siegel's shit is motherfucking fire.
But they will only push his shit so much and sold a certain amount of records before they pulled back.
But motherfucking Benny Siegel could have been a whole type of superstar.
That was a movement.
And they kept putting the money behind him because, nigga,
when you hear him on the same tracks as Jay-Z,
that nigga was going toe to motherfucking toe, dog.
Yeah, Benny.
For real, Benny Siegel was, oh, nigga, what?
And Redman, too, phenomenal.
Yeah, no, Redman, no, no, no.
And that's my man. Redman's cool, too. And he did the shit with Mary J Yeah no Redman No no no And that's my man
Redman's cool too
And he did the shit
With Mary J. Blige
No that's Method Man
Okay that's Method Man
Yeah
Ah yeah
Definitely Vinny C
No shout out to Redman
I love you Red
But I'm sorry
Okay Eddie Griffin
Or Tracy Morgan
Hmm
Both
Okay let's take a shot
Yeah both
Salud
Vale
Both great too
Chi-Chi get the egg
We need them both on here too as well
New Jersey Drive or Juice?
Hmm
New Jersey Drive
Cause I'm in it
Let's go
God damn it
We like that
We like that
No doubt
You're in New Jersey Drive?
I'm in New Jersey Drive
I gotta watch it again
I love that movie
Yeah
I'm the guy playing cards.
And the soundtrack is phenomenal for that movie.
The soundtrack is phenomenal.
Yeah.
Did you see the pictures at the end of Quick Time and Slime?
With him and-
Yeah, I saw it.
We're going to show it to you right now.
We're going to show you at NWA.
But real quick, shout out to Juice also because you've seen the DJ Drama promos for his album
that he's recreating the Juice scenes where he has Queen Latifah in it.
He has some of the
original actors.
I went to jail
for shooting people
out of the juice.
Well, come on, guy.
You had to ruin a good thing.
He's not hollering at me.
You're not in the movie.
I'm real life
in the movie.
I love you guys.
I went to jail for real.
It's choices like T.K.
Yeah, choices.
I wasn't making the right choice.
I was into the motherfucking jail at that time.
And now you're here right now.
Ain't that beautiful?
Look how we living, dog.
You got to go to sleep giggling a little bit.
That's right.
The night you go to sleep, go, mm-hmm.
That's right.
You ever see Instagram?
You feel yourself giggling at night.
Just start giggling.
I'm winning at this bitch.
I'm going to skip a couple of ones, but you can go back to this.
Because this is...
There's some good ones there, too.
You skip.
Patrice O'Neal or Mike Epps?
Mike Epps.
You know what's crazy about that?
And rest in peace to Patrice.
Rest in peace to Patrice O'Neal.
Yeah, because he was good, but I had a hand in Mike Epps' career.
Oh, okay, okay.
Yeah, yeah he was good, but I had a hand in Mike F's career. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's like the only person I could see come close to you when it comes to like just straight up like making.
Patrice?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
I get compared to him all the time.
Yeah, he was like that.
Yeah, yeah, he was like.
Like serious funny?
Yeah, serious funny.
But it's super funny.
But he had a serious delivery.
Yeah, he had a serious delivery.
Yeah, shout out to Patrice.
Yeah, good kid, but I'm always going to go with my own.
I like that.
And we need Mike Epps back.
He's alumni, but we need him back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shout out to Mike.
You want to take the next kill?
George Carlin or Rodney Dangerfield?
George Carlin.
George Carlin was ill.
Yeah, he was ill.
He had a message
Yeah
He was breaking down politics
Yeah
And still being funny
And still
Right now social media
Is taking all his bullshit
Politics and religion
Yeah
I think like Bill Moore
Took a lot of his stuff
For his own show
Yeah
Yeah it's possible
But you gotta remember
We've been on this earth so long
That it's really impossible to say something new
absolutely you feel me it's really impossible to say something new that's why i tell women
um a girl say oh i heard that before well bitch unless they come up with a new language
a lot of the same shit the difference is who's going to deliver in what they say.
That's what I always tell the females.
When you date a man, ask
him what his intentions are.
That's a game
changer. There's like a politician.
When they get out to vote,
they tell you what they want to do for you.
When a man meets a woman, he got to tell
her what he
wants to do for her.
Goddamn.
That's a whole other story.
Keep going.
Chris Tucker or Chris Rock?
Both.
Okay.
That I get to play.
Yeah.
They got't driving. Although I miss Chris Tucker back on the stage.
I feel like there was something that kind of happened.
Chris Tucker, I'll tell you.
Me and Chris Tucker is great friends as well, too.
And with Chris Tucker, who I love dearly, Chris was managing himself.
Even though it worked for him to get the 30 million to do Rush Hour,
I see now that he's back on track
trying to do
what he should have been doing
a long time ago.
Because Chris Tucker, to me,
could have been the richest
stand-up comedian ever.
Let me ask you something.
But what was it?
He didn't want to be typecasted?
Sorry.
He didn't want to curse no more.
Or was it religious? It was religious, right? Yeah.? Sorry. I think he said he didn't want to curse them or...
Or was it religious?
It was religious, right?
Yeah.
Unless we're in the room, we don't really know.
Right, that's what I'm saying.
But from the outside...
Speculating.
Yeah, but from the outside looking in, something happened that changed him, and he did what
he thought was best for him.
We don't know what happened in his personal life, but something happened.
Can I speculate with you?
Mm-hmm.
Because it just seems like
Friday was the movie that
kind of set it off.
For sure.
It seemed like he just turned his back on the franchise.
It didn't feel like, at the time,
he was turning his back on maybe Ice Cube
or Lionsgate or the franchise.
It felt like he was
turning his back on us.
It was like, yo, look, we blew.
And now I just want to do Jackie Chan movies in Korea.
I'm not saying that's what happened.
I'm saying that's what...
That's what it looked like.
That's what it looked like for most outsiders looking in
who always see these, you know,
these quote-unquote actors who get to this certain level
and then they kind of forget, like, where they came from.
Here's the thing about life, right?
We want people to do
what we think is right for them.
Right.
But at the end of the day,
people do what's right for them.
Yeah, they're not in their shoes.
Yeah, and we're not in their shoes.
And yes, we want him to...
It would have been phenomenal
if he did a Friday's two.
Phenomenal.
But it might not be a bike apps.
You took the words right out of my mouth.
Because we're looking at them
for what we want them to do for us.
Exactly.
We're taking the person.
But then we don't know.
Just like I say to people,
believe it or not,
if Tupac wouldn't have passed away,
there would be no DMX
and there would never have been no 50 Cent.
There'd be a lot of people
who might have been different careers.
Yes.
It'd have been totally different.
Okay.
Same with Big.
Yes.
Meek Mill or 2 Chainz?
Meek Mill for sure.
Okay.
And shout out to 2 Chainz.
I love them too, but Meek Mill's for sure.
I fucked up with this one because that was in my notes.
This one right here? This was in my notes. This one right here?
This was in my notes.
Okay.
That's Bill Burr?
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm thinking Bill Moore.
Okay, Bill Burr or Louis C.K.?
Bill Murr.
Bill Burr.
Burr.
Burr, my bad.
Yeah, Bill Burr.
He said Bill Murr.
That's what I'm talking about.
Thank you.
Yeah, I'm talking to you
because I keep saying the wrong thing.
I ain't drinking no more.
Let me ask you.
Let me ask you.
We only got 17 more questions.
No, no, no.
I can't do it.
I can't do it.
That's it.
This is the last question after this.
Okay.
Look, let me ask you.
So I just recently,
after Chris Rock,
this resurfaces of Louis C.K., I believe it's Jerry Seinfeld, Ricky Chivay.
That shit's a little crazy, bro.
Ricky Chivay and it's Chris Rock.
No, there's somebody else there.
Louis C.K.
No, Seinfeld's there.
I said Seinfeld.
You did?
I didn't hear you.
It's my favorite one.
He stayed out of it.
No, no, no.
He not only stayed out of it, he said, you shouldn't even say that. stayed out of it He said you shouldn't even say that
Right
He said you guys shouldn't even say that
So
At some point
Louis C.K. just
You know he
He thought he had the
The N word pass
Did you see this footage?
And Louis C.K. is sitting there
With Chris Rock
And Ricky Gervais
Jerry Seinfeld
And Louis C.K. says
Hey
You guys don't use
The nigga word
In y'all sketch,
but me and Chris Rock do.
And then they laugh
and then Jerry Seinfeld
kind of feels so weird and awkward,
he makes it his point to say,
I can't say that
and I don't think you should say that.
He says it to Louis C.K.
But then Louis C.K. says to Chris Rock
and you could tell they had a rapport
and he said,
oh, Chris knows because Chris knows I'm a nigga.
And here's this white man on national TV,
I think this is NBC or something like that.
He not only said it once,
he like tripled down on it.
He's like, yeah, I'm a nigga.
I don't use it, but I use it like,
I say nigga.
And then you could see Seinfeld,
like literally his face saying,
ah, ah.
Like Seinfeld is sitting there like,
ah, ah, this is not going to.
He corrects Louis C.K.
Right.
So the reason why this footage came back out, because that was people critiquing Chris Rock.
Mm-hmm.
What they were saying is, why was Seinfeld the guy to check the white man for using the N-word?
Why wasn't it Chris Rock?
I see what you're saying. It was like, because I could see a certain point
where,
you know, because sometimes, like
me as a half Latino.
Latinos, yeah. Latinos
sometimes use the N-word more than
brothers. Yes. Right.
The other day with my friend Twin,
he's Dominican. He jumped
out the car. He said nigga 3,000 times.
Right, right.
He didn't even give me a five yet.
Listen, we grew up like this.
He didn't even give me a five yet.
We grew up all together.
We all say it.
He was like, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga.
The bridge is up, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga.
I said, you got to stop.
Nah, it's right.
Right?
And it's not him even offending me.
It's just like, yo, if you... I get how you're using it.
But let me give you knowledge about the word nigger.
See, the nigger is really meaning king.
Right.
Out of Africa.
I know that part.
And the Western civilization changed it to make it seem like it's powerful.
Right.
Because they thought they was really doing some slick shit.
And this is the reason why I tell people understand the history and read and watch documentaries.
So when you hear
the white man
saying nigga
and make a scene,
they can't say it now
because the world has changed.
But know your history
knowing that nigga,
it used to be spelled
N-E-G-U-S.
It meant king.
Yeah.
And they changed it
to N-I-G-G-A.
But let people know, yeah, I'm going to call, what's up, nigga?
When you know the knowledge of the word.
Because I'm always going to say, what's up, my nigga?
Because one thing about blacks, we put a spin on life.
Right.
We'll turn anything negative into positive.
And that's the ability that we have as a black race.
Because now the word nigger, unless you're in a white community, is disrespectful.
But nigger in the hood, when you get in here, you ain't seen your friend in over 20 years or it's tax season and you thought that nigger was dead.
And you're like, nigger.
That's not how Louis C.K. used it.
I know.
I want you to see this footage.
And there's a white man saying it.
I know how this internet is, and I'm not going to let you get fried.
Yeah.
No, no, I broke it down.
What you're saying is absolutely right.
Because he didn't use it that way.
He used it where he used it.
He thought he was comfortable with it.
He was comfortable.
He was cool enough.
There's a rule in life.
Yes.
No white man or woman gets a pass.
Yeah, it's true.
It's true.
Bottom of the motherfucking line.
There's rules to this game or life.
Like, when we get locked up, no matter how you was rolling in the street, there's rules in prison.
Right.
You understand that?
Yep.
It's real.
When you got a job, the boss has rules.
When you're in your house, you set rules for your children on how they have to go in life.
White people can do whatever they want
in their apartment.
You can say niggas,
but when you're in the presence
of an African-American man or woman,
you have to show respect.
Because even when we talk about racism,
see, racism will never be fixed.
No.
The word in life is that
we have to respect each other more.
And if we respect each other more. And if we respect
each other, we'll get along.
I ain't got to like you.
Right. But I'll
respect you. And if you respect
each other, there's no
problem. You win, brother. There's no problem.
Because let me just say something.
It was crazy because with the Louis C.K. thing
is he was trying to be controversial.
I kind of understood. Some comedians do that. He was trying to push the envelope in a joke. Some comedians Louis C.K. thing is he was trying to be controversial. I kind of understood.
Some comedians do that.
He was trying to push the envelope in a joke.
Some comedians try to do that.
What happened is after his fucking dick pic shit came out with him, remember, he got caught jerking off on his assistant or something.
I think when that happened, he was at his height of his career.
What the fuck are y'all laughing like I'm making this up?
He got caught jerking off on his assistant.
He was like the first R.B. Bond scene. None of y'all laughing like I'm making this up? He got caught jerking off on his assistant. He was like the first Harvey Weinstein.
And none of y'all remember?
Get Twitter?
Nobody?
Again, choices.
So he jerked off on his assistant.
Yes.
I don't know if he jerked off on them, but.
I forgot.
He did something weird.
It was really Harvey Weinstein.
Yeah, yeah.
And then he got canceled for that.
And then this came back up.
Right, right.
But what I'm saying is, as a comedian,
if you're using a word for shock value,
that word should never get a pass.
Yes.
Even if you're using it just for the crowd to be like,
oh.
Now, I say nigga in my show.
I say bitch in my show.
I say hoe.
But believe it or not,
I won't curse offstage.
When I come offstage, I don't curse at all
I never curse around my children
I don't use profanity
At all
Once I get on stage
When I get on stage
You about to get it
Because
Why is that?
Because I always tell people
The Lord sent me here
To deliver a message
In the language
It needs to be
And I have to
I have to talk this shit
To get my point across
So I teach about
People having an LLC
And an EIN
Right
I teach about
Having a business
And something to leave
Your children
Before you leave this planet
I teach about
A man being a stronger man
To himself
First before
He has a woman
I teach men
To have a home Before they want to marry one.
You have $25,000 in your account unless you can't fuck.
Right.
Now, most men think the $25,000, they think I meant to give it to the female.
No.
But I tell men the $25,000 is for you.
Yes.
Because your choice in women are different when you got a little bit of money in your pocket.
You move through life differently when you're successful.
I still tell guys,
sometimes you're a poor woman
because she's an easy grab.
And I always tell guys too
that you think you're in love.
All the guys in here
think they really love
the woman that they with,
but unless you make her an asset,
she ain't an asset.
Because I tell people all the time,
look at your girl
and ask her for $10,000.
I tell them,
you know why you ain't looking at her?
Because you know she ain't got it.
So my point is, if I can't use you, you're useless.
He's been dissing y'all niggas bitches all night.
I'm just going.
He's been coming at somebody all night.
So if I can't get nothing.
And here's the thing.
If you listen to what I'm saying, you think I need the money.
No, I just want a woman To have her shit together
Wow
Because what I said earlier
That how well you live
Is how well you die
Right
See people think
Their kids gonna take care of them
When they get older
But you gotta understand
What guardianship does to you
When you get older
They take your property
They take things from you
You know
You probably wasn't good
To your children
And now your kids take in Now you're in the back room With a blanket over your thigh Hoping somebody changed You probably wasn't good to your children.
And now your kids take in, now you're in the back room with a blanket over your thigh, hoping somebody changed your diapers and shit every two or three hours as you get older.
I talk about health because I don't want people to be sick one day because you didn't take care of your body.
You understand?
And then you don't have insurance to take care of yourself.
So now you're really in a fucked up facility for the rest of your life.
I teach people about having life insurance,
burial insurance. I teach
people about LLC. I mean,
legacy trust. I teach
about legacy. I do all this in my
stand-up. I got you laughing
and thinking at the same
time, but I'm dropping
game. And like I said, what I say,
I'm either going to interrogate you or
inspire you. Which one
will you choose?
Yeah, yeah.
Which one will you choose? This is the last question for Quick Time
with Slimon. We're going to get back into the interview.
And this is,
everyone thinks these questions
are trick questions, and me and Finn
say that this is the only one
That's not a trick question
Loyalty or respect
Damn
I always say both
I'm going to take my life
Yeah, got to be both
Yeah, both for sure
Respect and loyalty
Shit, what? You know what? Yeah, both for sure. Both for sure. Yeah. Respect and loyalty.
Shit.
What?
You know what?
I can apply it to you.
I like, you know, I remember from when we first, like, you know, interviewed for the first time.
I mean, just, you know, like I said, researching your history And just seeing like Damn Like how legendary that is It's just like
The respect for you
Automatically makes me
Loyal to you
You know what I'm saying
It automatically says
Damn alright cool
And to me
That's not a trick question
Like I believe
They both have to coexist
Yes yes
You know what I mean
So yeah
I just wanted to say that
Yeah but
See Nuri
When we first met
Before we started doing
Drink Champ
Whenever we saw each other
I said that to my friend
I said it's always been enjoyable
Yeah the respect
The respect
The respect is phenomenal
Yeah
The respect is phenomenal
And I
Believe it or not guys
I'm
I'm really shocked
When motherfuckers know me
I thought I was really Flo floating under the radar through this shit.
And when I'm in London and different parts of the world,
I got my daughter with me.
And people walking up on my daughter looking at me like,
what the fuck is going on?
You know?
Because what she always says is,
they call me housewife.
Because I always have a robe on in the house.
I'm always cooking and cleaning.
Because one of the greatest moments to me, being at this age and even being here with you guys,
is being in my backyard, sipping on some coffee with a leaf blower.
And blowing the motherfucking leaves around, nigga.
A simple life, man.
Early in the morning.
And I got some beautiful possessions. The bottle y'all gave me from years ago. and blowing the motherfucking leaves around, nigga. Early in the morning.
And I got some beautiful possessions. The bottle y'all gave me from years ago.
Got some nice shit.
Now you got this to add.
I got nice whips, right?
But you know what's the most important
thing in my house that's going to fuck you up?
My key holder in the garage.
When I come and
get out my car
and I put the key on the keyhole
and it says,
keys?
Nigga, it don't sound like much,
but I swear to God,
that little motherfucker thing
is important to me.
And that's how much I preach life.
And I'm going to share this with the world
and I got to go.
See, once death starts happening in your life,
when you start losing your mother,
start losing your father, start losing your brothers, and you're here to see that, you look at life differently.
You start appreciating the smallest things in life.
If you turn your radio off just to hear the tires on the highway, it makes you appreciate.
If you're looking out the window and you see the leaves blowing, you appreciate the leaves blowing.
You come to a point in life that you leaf blower, the key ring thing,
for some reason, is the most important thing that I enjoy in my home.
It just makes me smile.
I don't know.
I can't explain why.
Smiling now.
Smiling now, thinking about it.
I can't explain why I am.
I'm going to give myself a key holder.
And when you people, and if you live long enough,
and the world changes when loved ones leave.
Right.
And we're all at that age now.
If your mother hasn't died yet, your father hasn't died yet, your brother, it's coming, right?
And you have to learn to live with it because what our parents have never taught us is how to live after they're gone.
Some kids and some men and women get depressed and they lose it.
And the thing about life is,
understand that I always tell people
that the universe is a team, right?
You're playing for the universe.
And if you do what you're supposed to do
for 365 years, guess what?
The universe extends your contract
to be in this game of life.
365 years or 365 days?
365 days.
Okay, yeah.
Thank you.
And you get to extend your life.
If you eat right, you do the right thing.
Because what happens if you don't do right,
sometimes it teaches you, it makes you injured.
You might get a hurt knee or hip.
So now you're in a wheelchair.
You fucked up for a few months, right?
And then they bring you back in the game.
Because when the universe is tired of you
and you have the ability to do something else,
they get rid of you.
And I'm going to prove my point.
When Whitney Houston was singing,
the universe gave her so many chances on this life.
And the universe was like, listen, you're not understanding the gift we gave you.
So we're going to take that back because we have to give it to somebody else.
Michael Jackson took advantage of a situation.
There's so many stories in life that people don't understand the gift that they have and they destroy it.
And they don't understand the power of this energy on this planet, which is, I'm not going to say God because some people don't believe in God.
But I do understand energy.
And, you know, when you meet certain people and the energy is just phenomenal.
Understand your energy.
Understand your choices.
Do the right thing with your life
because this shit is off the
motherfucking check.
This is one of my favorite
things in American
history.
I'm not talking black people history. I'm not talking
comedian history. I'm not talking about hip-hop history.
A young lady, you was on tour,
and a young lady accused you of rape.
Yes, yes.
And you not only said, I didn't rape,
but you actually sent her to jail.
Yeah, she's in prison.
For lying.
Yes, for lying.
She did two years.
Yeah.
I thought that was the greatest shit.
Yeah.
Because a lot of us, when you look at these people like, you know, DMXs and the Tupacs
and what these people, they say these stories, and you know, we want to protect the woman,
but then there's certain women who lie.
Yes, yes.
And in your situation, she out front lied.
They had, whatever she said you did, they actually had the footage proving that she did not.
Yeah, she has claimed one thing.
Okay, yeah, tell us what happened.
I was out of town.
The detectives called me.
And they say,
no, the manager of the club called me.
He said, TK, the cops are looking for you.
I got right back on the plane.
And you went back back.
And ran right back.
That doesn't sound like a guilty man to me.
Yeah, and the thing about
my reputation,
everybody knows that I love treating women well.
Right.
I'll buy you a car, get you diamonds.
So you order to ourselves?
Yeah, yeah.
Like a motherfucker.
I'll upgrade your watch game.
I'm from the 80s.
That's how we move.
You know what I'm saying?
Shout out to Eric Von Zip.
You know what I'm saying?
That's how we move.
Von Zip.
And to hear that, I take, like I said, all your choices.
So the detectives call you.
Yeah.
And I come back and we sit down and talk.
And I tell the gentleman and I, and the cop already knew I wasn't lying.
Right.
You know, you sit here and talk to me and tell everything I say.
Right.
They pick up on it.
You know, I said, nah, I'm going to tell you exactly what happened.
He said, what happened?
I said, listen, I fucked her.
We had a good time. And the next day I was with another bitch. And going to tell you exactly what happened. He said, what happened? I said, listen, I fucked her. We had a good time.
And the next day, I was with another bitch.
And she saw the girl rubbing my shoulder.
And I'm not going to say it was wrong.
That's how I live my life.
I fucked her.
We had a good time.
And I had another girl with me the next day.
And that girl got mad because she saw me with that woman.
You understand what I'm saying?
And I'm not the kind of guy who's going to sugarcoat.
When I date a woman,
great things are going on. I'm either going to
upgrade you, get you a house, buy you a car.
I might even get you
put some money in your account for the nigga you
fucking with.
You know what I'm saying?
You got to be a real G to be what I do.
If I really
like you enough, I'll buy
your nigga something.
I ain't never heard that.
No, no, let me explain to you why.
Because I find it disrespectful
that I'm digging your bitch down and you don't
get a few things.
That's collateral damage.
We've had pimps on here. That's collateral damage. We've had pimps on here.
That's disrespectful.
That's disrespectful.
I wasn't raised like that.
And that's what I try to tell men.
Even when you go out and you talk to a woman for a few minutes,
buy her a drink.
You know why?
Because that's for a time. And you walk away. You say, hey, baby, you want a drink? You know what I'm minutes, buy her a drink. You know why? Because that's for a time.
And you walk away. You say, hey, baby, you want a drink?
You know what I'm saying? Buy her a drink and walk
away. You know?
Niggas want to sit there and babysit the drink
and the bitch. Nigga, nah, nigga.
Buy her.
Talk to her for a few minutes, buy her a drink
and walk away and say,
that was for your time and may your pain be
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went back in the day. You didn't have to have a
person's credit card. You could have their
number, but because my game
was so cold, watch where I'm
going. I love this.
I never had Puffy's credit card.
It was a woman
who had his information.
All these years
because of how I move,
I never told on the female.
This bitch.
No, no, no, no.
Because she gave me games.
She told me how to move.
But it was a female.
She had Puffy.
Yeah, it was a female that did it.
Again, with the Puffy situation.
Again, with the Eddie Murphy situation.
What people don't know is that I also did the same thing to Suge Knight.
You took Suge Knight credit cards?
No, no, I took Suge Knight.
But Suge was moving something, and I intercepted it with my crew.
And Suge was like...
I was wearing a mask way before y'all was wearing a mask.
And Suga...
That went over a lot of people's heads.
And Suga called me like three in the morning
and said, yo, TK, look, nigga,
that shit you did tonight, that was my shit.
I said, nigga, that shit sold.
And that nigga said, nigga, if you ain't at death row
by nine o'clock
The next day
We gonna have a problem TK
I was at that motherfucker
Like 6.30 in the morning
But see
Suge knew I was a little crazy
You know what I'm saying
And what I mean by that
See I already
Back then
You got beef with Puffin
I got shit with everybody
But I was the kid
With the Wild Wild West nigga.
And one of my niggas said it the best.
He said, T to...
Every time you see him, you say, T to the motherfucking K.
The best that ever did it and got away with it.
That's my title.
The best that ever did it and got away with it.
So even with Puff, you evolved in life.
And if you listen
to this, Puff, and
understand, yeah, the thing
that I want him to know as a youngster,
I was wrong
to be involved in that type of situation,
but as a man
speaking today, I apologize.
I'm
really blessed. I'm successful. I'm doing my thing.
And hopefully somewhere down the line we can shake
hands and have an espresso
and laugh at this shit
because anything is possible
in life. You know, we're not best friends,
but as men, see, as
men, I take being a man very seriously.
As men, let's honor and respect
each other. And we have lived
long enough to
apologize, some people don't get a chance
to apologize. You know what I'm saying?
So I could stand,
sit here with all these young
ladies and this beautiful young lady I'm going to take out later.
God damn it.
I could say that I apologize.
But so, but how
did you get caught?
Because again, you don't incriminate yourself.
Who told you?
Was it the jeweler?
No, no, no, no.
What happened was I didn't understand the game, and I went over my head.
I went over my head.
But, again, choices.
It was a domino effect.
See, because my cousins who worked for me at the time was federal agents out of Newark, New Jersey.
Jesus Christmas.
Yeah, see, I got... She got way real up.
I got cousins who...
This took a different song.
I got cousins who,
federal agents who
will pop your motherfucking ass.
They retired now.
And I had my cousin
go pick up this so-called jewelry
that I was doing.
Let me tell you the effect
it had on our family.
So when he gets there,
and I love him to death.
Shout out to Lawrence Case.
I love my cousin.
And they arrest him.
So now I got aunts and uncles pissed the fuck off
because they're like,
what the fuck is going on?
So now this is for social media.
They got me pegged as the number one.
You would have thought I shot Clinton
back in the 90s
because I'm on all the news and shit, right?
So my mother doesn't go get her feet done for six weeks.
She doesn't go to church for six weeks
because my mother's embarrassed.
My cousin and I don't speak for almost 10 years
because of this, right?
Wow.
The thing about life, again, is that when the universe is looking out for you, I don't speak for almost 10 years because of this, right? Wow.
The thing about life, again, is that when the universe is looking out for you,
because I've also done so much good in life,
that you can cash, get out a jail card.
Yeah, get out a jail card.
See, I've done so well and put so many chips in
that I was able to cash it in
when it was time with the universe.
So even when I went to Rikers Island
and stayed there for a minute and got out and wound up-
Fakir D?
That was a different case?
No, same case.
Oh, same case, yeah.
They sent me to Rikers Island because I fought the case of Coe.
I hired an attorney,
and then I was going to take a deal to do six years,
and I rigged on the deal. Wow. And wound up getting an attorney, and then I was going to take a deal to do six years. And I rigged on the deal.
Wow.
And wound up getting another attorney.
But then it all backfires, because I'm going to tell you how the universe works.
See, at the same time, when I was going through that, Puff was dating a girl named Jennifer Lopez.
We never heard of her.
Yeah.
Well, I said, she's dating Jennifer Lopez. We never heard of her. Yeah. Watch this, dating Jennifer Lopez.
And also Puff was hanging out with a young man,
a rapper named Shine.
They went out one night to a club.
A shooting goes down.
Yes.
And people go to jail.
Now the same prosecutors who was trying to arrest me
comes to Rikers.
So yeah, fucked up they are.
And say, listen, Puff
got arrested. We want you to testify
that you
sold Puffy with the gun.
Oh, wow.
True shit. So me
being clever, I'm always
50 steps ahead.
I said, get me out of here. I'll talk to you.
So they bring me from Rikers Island to the tombs.
I come back to the tombs,
but all the security people there,
COs is like,
because they know me.
And they see all the cops.
They're like, what the fuck is going on?
Because you think,
it's a federal crime.
So now I'm in the black Lincoln
going out the back of the tombs
and they're taking me to the club.
Oh, NYC club.
Where did it happen?
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
And they're coaching me subliminally
to show me how they saw Puck with the gun.
And I'm sitting there
and while we're talking,
I was like,
can I have a blimpy?
You know?
You remember blimpies?
I just was drinking blimpies the other day.
I love blimpies.
I remember it.
Listen to me.
I'm playing this.
There ain't nobody.
I'm putting a spin on this.
But that's also how the niggas that snitch.
They get blimpies at McDonald's.
This is.
So watch where I'm going.
So I'm getting blimpies.
I'm sitting outside.
They said, so Puff was here.
But he's not saying that you saw Puff here.
He's saying, Puff's here. And I'm like, Puff was here, but he's not saying that you saw Puff here. He's saying, Puff's here.
And I'm like, Puff was here and you was here.
I said, and I was here.
We did this for three days.
But I'm doing, I'm living.
I'm eating pizzas and shit.
Scabarros.
Slices, nigga.
I'm really enjoying.
I'm really enjoying myself.
They don't see it coming what I'm about to do. I don't see it coming, what I'm about to do.
I don't see what you're about to do.
So right when they get ready to go to indict Puff,
they come to me and my attorney says, TK,
they want to know if you're going to cooperate with them
and know that you saw Puff with the gun.
And I was in this thing eating chips.
And I said, no, I'm good.
So I'm good.
Because what I had over my head, it wasn't because of Puff.
What I had over my head is what I did in Los Angeles, California a year before.
I had a felony.
And in New York City, if you catch another felony within a year,
less than a year, it's called predicate
felon. Mandatory
five to six.
My attorney was able to take that off
the table. I wound up
beating the case.
The Los Angeles case?
The case in L.A. got
thrown out, but I wound up beating the case in New
York because my attorney got thrown out. Okay. But I wound up beating the case in New York. Okay.
Because my attorney threw it out.
And I wound up doing five years probation.
So that worked out for me. Circle back around, me and my cousins is back the best friends again like we was back from day one, right?
And what I'm trying to say, over time, things do heal, things do change.
And as long as you keep your focus right and do the right thing,
you can get right back on track and do what you're supposed to do.
The thing with Puff, the thing with Charlie
Murphy, the thing with all
the crazy things I did in my life,
it was to make me who I
am today. It was to make me
sit here and talk to the world,
talk to you guys, because
I could sit here with my chest motherfucking
out like a man and be
confident because I'm healthy,
I'm rich. I'm like, I'm rich, nigga.
And what I mean by that is, right.
See, I come from an era you don't flaunt your wealth.
Of course not.
I rule in my era you stay low key and flex occasionally.
See?
So I flex every now and then.
I ain't got to show you that I got a Bentley.
I ain't got to show you I got diamonds.
I ain't got to show you I'm on a proper plane or a helicopter.
You know?
Because we move a certain way.
Men, true men, move a certain way.
You know?
And we treat people with respect.
When I go out and buy people bottles of champagne when I'm at the club,
I'll see a person and person, send them a bottle.
You know, that's respect.
You know, and that's what I want every man in here who is listening, anybody, kids listening, grow up to be respectful.
And because when you walk into a room, that's the most powerful thing in the world.
Right.
And that's, yo, man. And that's it, man.
Thank you so much, man.
I can't...
No, it's an honor
because we're getting older.
Listen, we're getting older.
I'm going to do another shot.
You don't got to do another shot.
I'm going to take a pee before you guys...
We're going to wrap it up.
Yeah, all right.
No, no, no, no, no.
You got to come back
and wrap it up, yo.
That's your prostate.
Yes, yes, yes.
You told him he ain't been
in the doctor.
You've been fucking him up. I'll take another full drink, too. Thank you Yes, yes, yes. You told him he ain't been in the doctor. You've been fucking him up.
I'll take another full drink, too.
Thank you.
Thank you, sweetheart.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
No, but when I read,
because I actually met females before
that told me that they lied on men.
Yes.
And was like, yo, I didn't know what to do.
My man caught me with him.
And it was like... No, I'm making it deep. do. My man caught me with him. And it was like...
I'm going to make it deeper.
I know a lot of cops.
So when I heard what you did, I was like...
Yes.
I had a friend in Chicago.
Because I hustled from the Bloods and the Crips to L.A. to GD in Chicago to my niggas in Jersey.
And I played on both sides of the fence.
I just know cops because of being a comedian.
And a young man told me one year, he said, TK, women snitch on their husbands and boyfriends more than the niggas.
Because they get, see, the cops wind up fucking the nigga that they arrest girl.
The women is so foul that the women tell the cops
the shit that the niggas be doing.
And then the nigga think
it's his boy.
Damn.
That makes sense.
It's a cold game, brother.
It's a cold game.
It's a cold motherfucking game.
I ain't even.
Yes, sir.
It's a cold game.
I AARP.
Relax. You got so hype when you say AARP even Yes sir It's a cold game I AARP Relax
You got so hype
When you say AARP
Yeah it's a
It's a cold
It's a cold game
And that's why
Live right
Live god damn right
Listen to me yo
I don't give a fuck
Are you broke
No
I don't care
Live right man
Live right
This
Living right
Is a beautiful
Motherfucking thing
Because When you don't live right The thing that you fight for and you don't really understand how valuable it is, is peace of mind.
Yes.
Do you agree?
Yes.
That's why I don't have your key thing.
Yes.
But I have this place on my balcony.
I just go on the balcony.
Yes.
And I look over.
I got two parts of my balcony.
Yes. One part, I feel like I made it too much, so I don't want to go on that part of my balcony. I just go on the balcony and I look over. I got two parts of my balcony. One part,
I feel like I made it too much so I don't want
to go on that part of the balcony.
Because it's like, damn, I don't want to work.
I got another part of my balcony with a city
view.
I'm born and raised in New York City so
this is my peace of mind.
What's crazy about it is
sometimes they'll be doing construction or something like that
and I could fall straight to sleep just listening to them doing construction.
I'm a city boy.
You're kidding.
I sit there, and some of my friends be laughing at me because they're like, how the fuck do you listen to construction and then fall asleep?
I'm like, you know, here in the New York City, I'm so used to that.
So that's my peace of mind is just sitting down.
Listen to me.
Yeah, I love it.
You understand, fam.
I stay home.
I stay home.
No, no, no.
Not too many people understand.
This will go over a lot of people's heads.
Yeah, staying home is not overrated.
No, it's not overrated.
It's not.
It's a beautiful thing.
That's a luxury.
It's a beautiful thing.
Yes, it is.
It is.
When's your special?
July 4th?
How do you know that?
Because I'm connected.
No, no, no, no, no.
Why? It's not out? It's not publicly out? July 4th. I didn't announce that shit yet. Come on, July 4th? How do you know that? Because I'm connected. No, no, no, no, no.
Why?
It's not out?
It's not publicly out?
July 4th. I didn't announce that shit yet.
Come on.
July 4th.
You, Jamie Foxx's director.
Come on.
What is the name of this?
What is the name of this?
What?
Yes.
July 4th.
Let's get it.
Where is it going to be filmed at?
Atlanta?
No, the special is already done.
T to the motherfucking, T to the MFK.
Okay.
That drops July 4th.
That's July 4th, but not the Jamie Foxx one you were talking about.
The Jamie Foxx thing, me and Marcus Kane, that's going to be a movie and stand-up
because they want to do it the same way, like my life story type thing,
and then we go into the stand-up.
So we'll see what happens.
Shout-out to Jamie Foxx.
Matter of fact, shout-out to Baby and us doing Baller Blocking 2. That's going to happen. I out to Jamie Foxx. Matter of fact, shout out to Baby and us doing
Baller Blocking 2.
That's going to happen.
I'm looking forward to that.
But yeah,
the special is dropping
on July 4th.
Right now,
you can get it too
on my own network,
tk.network.
I love that so much.
That's dope.
I ain't going to lie.
I look at other people
in your profession
and I think you're
the only one doing that.
I think you're the only one.
You know, it's a question that me and EFN always ask,
is Major or Independent?
And we didn't have that in Quick Time or Slime,
but I want to ask you, what would you prefer?
I mean, I think it's obvious.
Major or Independent?
If it came to, because right now, like, I see Marlon Wayans.
He was the only person who kind of went to HBO Max.
But everyone is like, it's like gun hole right now. It's like, all right, cool.
If you're a comedian, you're supposed to have a special
show on Netflix. Is that something you're trying to
go to? That's what I would say.
If your comedy IQ
is not high, that's what you think you should do.
Oh, I like that.
So you got to have a comedy IQ.
Like great basketball players have IQ?
Yes, basketball IQs, yes. Great football players have IQ? What have a comedy IQ, like great basketball players have IQs? Yes, basketball IQs, yes.
Great football players have IQs?
Yes.
What is your comedy IQ, right?
And my comedy IQ teaches me to get a residual check every three or four months.
See, a lot of people don't know I got a record label.
Right, wow.
See, I don't talk about it.
I get checks.
Like I said, I move, I about it. I get checks.
Like I said, I move.
I stay low key and flex occasionally.
And what people don't understand is catalogs in the comedy world.
See, I get this from rocking with hip hop.
I took everything I met with Eazy, Jay-Z, Baby.
Some of the best.
And created a catalog.
Yes.
A lot of comics don't understand catalogs.
Everything I do is catalog.
What Nas did with his song, put his daughter on the song.
Well, my daughter is executive producer on all my specials. Fire.
To get a check.
You understand what I'm saying?
When I leave this earth, my LLC goes to a trust.
My money goes to the LLC. And when I pass the LLC, the money goes to the trust.
It's what Rockefeller did.
See, Rockefeller created a trust that he didn't give people.
And which protects your assets.
Yes.
When you say Rockefeller, you're talking about Rockefeller.
Rockefeller.
A person.
A fan.
Let's make sure we're clear.
Yeah.
Before Jay-Z, people,
there was a man named Rockefeller
who was in the oil business,
and he wasn't really in the oil business.
He was doing something else,
and he convinced the government
that the oil that he was using was fossil fuel.
And he paid millions and millions of dollars
for the scientists to put up this documentation
to make it thing that goes fossil
fuel. And that's how it became oil that they felt like they needed to use oil because oil was really
used for the trains, for the keep it from getting rusty. And he tricked the world, which worked out,
to start using oil in people's houses. That's how Rockefeller got rich. So he put all his money into LLC,
and when he died, it went into a trust.
Nine generations later,
everybody is motherfucking multi-rich,
and that's why anybody got a little change.
Never leave anybody the money,
because if a person didn't work for the money,
they're going to run through.
I've met people, women, who've gotten two million because somebody died.
You see them a year later, and they'll say, I said, what happened with your money?
And they say, oh, I ran through.
I had a good time.
Because people don't respect money.
Working at five guys now.
And what we got to do is teach people how to respect money.
Because in school, they teach you to raise your hand.
They teach you to know the cities of the states and the oceans.
And the thing that I teach people the most is knowing how to get an LLC and an EIN.
I'm going to do it on here every night, and then I'm gone.
Next time you see me, you'll have $300,000 in your pocket.
Right now, if you leave here tonight and you go to what I call IncFile, I-N-C-F-I-L-E.com
and fill out that information,
in three weeks,
they'll send you a free LLC.
Once you get that free LLC,
what people don't know,
I'm going to teach you
how to get a free EIN.
Now you take the information
you got from IncFile.com,
go to the IRS website,
fill out that information and put the money,
the information you got from inkfile.com
into the IRS website.
They send you a free EIN.
This shit is right in front of us
and this is why we got to teach the world.
And EIN is like your social security.
Right.
Yes, but now it gets deeper.
Now you go to the bank and you put money into your account.
$1,000, $500.
Now what happens is the EIN number gets picked up by American Express.
Now American Express will send you an envelope in the mail and it says exactly what it says.
Your credit has grant you privilege.
Now you put your corporation information on American Express and fill it out.
Right there on the phone
when you're calling to get approved,
you are approved.
You got $200,000 to $500,000
platinum credit card
less than three motherfucking weeks.
No, seven days.
And they send a delivery to your door.
Now, some of you guys,
you're listening,
you're going to take this money,
you're going to go shopping.
You're going to do some dumb shit.
And you're not going to be able to pay that.
But I got to put people up on game
because I'm a hustler.
It'll never fuck up your credit
because it's your EIN number.
Right. And it's an LLC. So Okay. It'll never fuck up your credit because it's your EIN number. Right.
And it's an LLC.
So it's not going to
fuck up your credit.
But when you get to be my age
and all the shit
that I've gone through
to get this type of knowledge,
I want you to respect
and appreciate it
because,
man,
I've gone through
a lot of shit.
Yes.
Listen to me.
I've gone through
a lot of shit.
So I want people to win
and this is one of the ways I'm going to do as much as I can
to give the knowledge to the world.
Because like we said earlier,
everything is based on points and discounts.
And if you don't have enough points,
you can't get into the VIP section in heaven.
And I need to be in the VIP section.
I don't want to be three points short.
And they say, you almost made it.
Have a seat on cloud.
Julie be here with you in three weeks.
Hold on.
Hold up, but really quick.
You mentioned Marlon Wayans.
Remember what he told us.
He paid for the filming of his special.
Yeah, his special.
So he most likely licensed it.
Yeah, I've been doing that for years.
So he didn't just go to HBO.
He actually was doing the independent run.
Yeah, I was doing that for the longest.
I paid for my own stuff, and everything comes back to me.
What kind of watch is that?
That looks beautiful.
You just nigga with this watch.
No, this is beautiful.
It's a beautiful watch.
It's beautiful.
Okay, I'm going to...
Yes.
All right, last time we were here, we were with T.I., right?
Mm-hmm.
And craziest thing that we just found out, you know, T.I.'s manager passed away.
Yeah, Clay.
Yes.
So, you know, I wanted to-
Yeah, shout out to Clay.
I want everyone to give a, you know, a moment of silence.
Yes, yes, yes.
For Clay.
It almost feels appropriate, you know.
I agree.
T.I. as well.
I apologize.
I haven't reached out yet.
You know what I mean?
Because I just know him and Lil Duval, you know, really good friends of mine.
Yes, yes, great friends.
And they were both managed by him.
And it was like, because when I even heard that he was in the hospital, it's like you said, like us taking care of our health.
He looks like one of those guys that was just healthy, just had his shit.
But see, he had diabetes.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, Clay.
That's when he died of that?
Yeah, Clay died of diabetes, and then he got a stroke.
Oh.
God bless him. I hope people don't get offended. I don't know if that's, I died of that yeah Clay died of diabetes and then he got a stroke oh God bless I hope people don't get offended
I don't know if that's
I shouldn't say that
but me and Clay talk
you know
and
cause he does a Sunday
at what we call
the Comedy Act Theater
in Atlanta, Georgia
and
like I said to everybody here
from day one
I've always pushed health
health
you kept saying it
and eating good
and what they don't tell you
in this country is when they say
pre-diabetic, they never really
tell you it's really processed foods.
And if you're drinking a lot of sodas,
if you're drinking,
eating a lot of cheese,
you're going to become a diabetic.
And what the system
does is if you
don't take yourself seriously, you end up becoming a
diabetic. And if you don't keep work on it, you want to either get in a stroke or having problems
with your health. And I want all of you, everybody's listening to the show. I want one day
for you to meet your grandchildren. You understand what I'm saying? Because this journey of life, I swear to God, is one of the most amazing things that you can truly experience.
Because we're all winners, right?
This is kind of funny.
Yeah.
When you beat all them thousand sperms to the egg to be born, sounds crazy, right?
But you're a winner.
Yes, sir.
So you start out being a winner.
Yeah.
You know?
And people got to keep that mindset.
You know, I'm a winner.
And that's what people got to understand.
Do not take you being here for granted.
Because you started out winning.
Keep that same mindset.
Follow TK Kirkland.
T to the motherfucking K.
Let me see.
He got one question.
Hold on. Hold that.
Let me just ask you. As you being your own manager, you being
like, it's always you who
motivates you? Because
that's the one thing about having a team.
That's a great question. Because the one thing about having a team is
if I don't wake up,
I mean, not that I don't wake up, but if
I don't feel like being I mean, not that I don't wake up, but if I don't feel like being great today,
I always could depend on one of my friends
to be like, yo, can we take a walk?
Can we go outside?
Can we go to the gym?
A friend is different from management.
No, no, no.
What I'm saying is that's overall.
It's overall because he has to be
his own motivation to wake up
and go those five miles on a treadmill.
You know what I'm saying?
And you have to also,
after you get those five miles on a treadmill. You know what I'm saying? And you have to also, after you get those five miles on a treadmill,
take these phone calls.
Yes.
Because it has to be difficult.
It's difficult.
I know you're holding it down.
Yes, it's hard.
But we all need help.
Yeah, it's hard.
So how is it dealing with that?
See, and again, people always ask me,
TK, how do you do it?
And I say it's in my DNA.
But what I can honestly say,
everything in my life prepared me to who I am.
Right.
And I'm going to say this.
I used to be,
I also ran track.
I told you my career
was phenomenal.
Yeah.
And I was a great track star
and I had a great coach.
Mm-hmm.
And his name was
Mr. Wilbur Jones.
Wilbur Jones.
And let me explain to you
what Mr. Wilbur Jones
instilled in his athletes.
He used to always say to me, he said, Kirkland, that's what he called me in high school, Kirkland.
Not Terrence.
Yeah, not Terrence.
Okay.
He said, anybody can run when they're not tired.
It's can you run when you're tired.
Makes mad sense.
You understand?
Yeah. You understand? So 38 years, I've gotten tired, but it's in my DNA, but I can run when I'm not tired.
And that's the difference, y'all.
Shout out to Mr. Wilbur Jones.
He's still doing the same.
Mr. Wilbur Jones.
Gentlemen.
Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, come on.
ARP, let's go.
Let's go. Yes.
Yes.
You trying to get that $300, huh?
I'm listening.
Uh-huh.
So here's the thing. to use 50 of it or is it smart to use 50 of it to buy property?
So here's the thing.
I'm glad you asked that.
No, no, it's a great question.
Here's a great question.
And you're African, right?
He's Haitian.
He's Haitian.
Same thing.
Same thing.
Haitian, African, same thing.
No, no, no.
No, no.
It's good.
See, and his bloodline
is fraud, right?
No, his bloodline is...
No, they frauds.
No, listen to me.
I thought you said fraud.
No, I didn't say fraud.
He didn't say fraud.
He said fraud.
Yeah.
He a Nigerian scammer.
Yeah, he a Nigerian...
No.
No disrespect.
Listen to me.
These are the facts. We're going to deal with the facts. But the thing about the car, you're Nigerian. No. No disrespect. Listen to me. These are the facts.
We're going to deal with the facts. But the thing
about the car, you can do whatever you want to do
with it. You want to fuck it off?
You can fuck it off. You want to take 50 by
proper? You could do that.
The thing that Americans rest on play
is that you got
to pay that motherfucker on that date.
On the month? Yeah, it was a
monthly charge. It's not like other cards.
Yeah, it's not like other cards. And it's a
$600, if not more,
fee.
Yeah, to have it. The great thing about
having these cards, ladies
and gentlemen, is that when your kids are
16, you could put them
on. You have to give them the card, but you could
put them on the card. Build their credit.
And build their credit. But not with the corporation, but they'll also give on the card. Build their credit. And build their credit.
But not with the corporation,
but they'll also give you a personal card.
So if you get the personal card
with your social security number,
now your kid's credit score goes up.
So by the time they're 20, 21 years old,
they have good credit.
The other thing that's important I teach people
is with the life insurance,
go get a GoFundMe insurance policy. A GoFundMe insurance
policy, if you only put $40 in that motherfucker a month for 20 years, your grandbaby or your son
or daughter walks away with $60,000 cash tax-free. Now, here's the cold part about GoFundMe. I mean, whole life insurance.
After your policy matures in three years,
you become a bank.
Now, you don't really need an American Express card.
Now, you can take a loan on your insurance
for a million, two, three millions
and pay yourself back.
The reason why the insurance companies
can't teach us this, the rest of the world,
is because the government holds them hostage
because the government wants you to put your money
in their account to only get 3% interest.
But in the whole life insurance policy,
you get 40% on the dollar.
And that's why people got to have
a whole life insurance policy.
It's a cold hustle, y'all.
This is, like, I teach this shit.
You're fucking me up.
Yeah, it's a cold hustle.
But you really, and I don't mean hustle in a bad way.
I mean hustle if you read and know how, I'm not going to say the white man,
just people who fucking read and study how they do it because this information is right in fucking front of us.
That you can really change your life easy.
Like, everybody here watching social media
that got an opinion.
Right.
Do you know they got a thing called
opinionsforcash.com?
No.
That you can send your opinion in
and they pay you.
Nigga, they pay you for your opinion.
This shit is fucking insane.
You got to relax. Oh, you do, you this shit is fucking insane you gotta relax
oh you do you do you do
you fill out that survey
yeah you get an opinion they pay you for your
fucking opinion can you believe
they got this type of shit
I forgot you telling me that shit
they got this kind of shit
they pay you a check you get fucking from
200 to 800 dollars
Amazon got a hustle, Dave.
You got a car.
Listen to what I'm telling you.
Amazon, you could turn your car into a truck.
You go out four hours a day.
And by the end of the week,
they pay you $4,000 to $5,000 cash.
Wow.
This shit is cold, brother.
There's no reason.
No excuses to be broke. a person should be motherfucker broke
especially nowadays
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All right, this is the last one.
This is it. This is the second last one. This is it.
This is the second to last.
This is it.
Third to the last, maybe.
I'm getting political.
I'm so sorry.
Okay, cool.
A lot of us didn't like Trump because of Trump's racial view.
I'm listening.
But I had no broke friends when Trump was in office.
Biden ain't looking out for none of my niggas.
Yes.
Stay right back to where they used to be.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yes.
I went too far?
No, no, no, no, no.
I'm rocking with you.
I'm just saying.
Listen, I am not a political person.
I'm doing this from face value.
I'm saying it The most simplistic way.
I view politics.
Right now, I don't care
about Sleepy Joe.
I don't like Sleepy Joe.
Kamala's fucking
not helping me out neither.
I ain't seen her.
They ain't been outside too me.
I'm not
bigging Trump up. Okay.
Or who was his
vice president? Pence. Pence. Pence.
Yeah, I don't even remember him. Who Trump did.
I don't even remember Pence. Damn near had him killed.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Trump flipped it on everybody.
Trump came in and said, fuck everybody. It's just
about me.
Where do you
stand on politics as far as
these... Well, I mean, this 2024 is going to happen.
Trump is going to run again.
Let me put everybody up on game.
Trump is one of the greatest manipulators of our time.
Let me rock with you, so follow me where I'm going.
I'm going to shut the fuck up.
Donald Trump, who has great intentions, but one, the reason why I didn't really fuck with Donald Trump, because I'm a man of character.
And if you are the president of the United States of America and you're still a liar, that bothers me.
Because your character, what the fuck, nigga?
You're the fucking man and you're still lying?
But he's brilliant.
Because even when he was running, when he was president of the United States, see, he knew he wasn't shit.
He strategically put people in place because he knew it would come back.
Everything he did would bite him on the ass on the Supreme Justice system.
He put buffers around it.
The mail. Give me an example now.
See, let me explain to you how
the election was rigged
when Donald Trump was office.
See, Donald Trump knew the election
was rigged because it was rigged for him.
Watch what I'm coming.
Now, out of
nowhere, The pandemic comes
Now let's say the Russians
We're not sure
Let's say the Russians
Had a hand in it
Because with the internet
You can do anything
Right
Everybody had a hand in it
Can I finish the story?
Don't interrupt me
I'm talking
Hey drink sense
I'm having a conversation
It's not just stories
No no that's not a conversation It's not just stories No no that's not a conversation
It's not a conversation
You're distracting me
Let me stay focused
That's not a conversation
Let me stay focused
Let's have a conversation now
Okay hold on
So he knew it was rigged
Because he knew someone helped him
Let's just say the Russians
Right
So now when Donald Trump gets ready
to run for re-election, he says
that it was rigged
because people
don't pay attention. I want you to really
listen to what I'm about to say.
He hired the
guy who handles the mail
postmaster
to put locks
On the mailbox
Because at that time
Was one of the most critical
Crises of our life
The pandemic happened
So people was doing mail imbalance
Instead of going to the polls
Let's say the Russians say
Hey
Trump
If they do the mail imbalance there's nothing we could do.
Because if they vote with the machines, we can manipulate that.
But we can't manipulate mail-in ballots.
And that's why he kept saying, we never heard nobody say, stop the fucking mailbox, lock the mailboxes
up. Never heard of that.
But if you pay attention,
put two and two together, he
closed the mailboxes because
he didn't want mail-in
ballots to become a high number.
So when he lost,
he already knew it was rigged
because he knew the Russians had something to do with him.
But we have a world today that we're so split down the middle that we have uneducated with the educated.
And if you ever read Donald Trump's book, he said that the Republicans are the most manipulated people on the planet.
He was a Democrat.
He was a Democrat.
Yeah, he's like, you can say anything to them and they'll believe it.
And it goes again with social media.
See, with social media, we have kids sitting at the table with grown people. And the kids today have been manipulated
because the companies, the other countries,
Japan and the people who are behind TikTok,
the people who are on social media,
see, they think it's a game.
See, depression went up in America 1,000%
since 2007 because of social media.
1000%.
People are talking about depressing
and killing themselves.
Which is China with TikTok.
And with TikTok and social media,
if you go to other parts of the world,
they're teaching their kids about being engineers
and being doctors
and programmers.
If you ask anybody over the country, they want to be a doctor.
If you ask anybody in America what they want to become, a kid,
a kid will say, I want to be an influencer.
Right.
And there's an age limit in almost every country in the world.
Yes.
13 is the age limit to be on these social media platforms.
Because I read an article that Japan is not going to come attack us with guns.
China, China.
Not Japan.
Japan's our ally.
Yeah.
They're not going to do that.
What they're doing is
they're hitting us with the computers.
Right.
That's the war that we're having now.
Yeah.
Because they have damaged this country
and it's gone over people's heads.
Damaged, divided us, everything.
And you think about the government.
You go anywhere in the world, nobody talks about race until you get to America.
Right.
Because they keep us arguing with each other, black and white, who's the richest,
because they don't want you to understand what's really going on.
Here, we should be a team.
Even the Republicans and the Democrats, it's so embarrassing to see them on the news, not the news, when they do the press conference every year.
The debate?
Not the debate.
When the president comes on.
On State of the Union.
They start booing each other.
They start heckling each other like it's a comedy show.
One stands up for the Republicans and the Republicans, and they sit down.
I truly feel they should get rid of Republicans and Democrats.
Or have more parties.
No, no, no.
Get rid of all of it and have something that's one as a unit.
You can't do one.
No, no, no.
You have to because-
No, that would become more social.
Let me explain to you why, though.
And that's why I'm saying it's my opinion.
You're interrupting me again.
It's my opinion.
No, you ain't saying it's your opinion.
I said my opinion.
I said it's my opinion.
So what I'm saying to you,
the reason why you have one,
because when you have,
that's why they have jury.
If you get 12 people in the jury
and one person fucks up,
because it's hard to get 12 people
to agree to anything.
When you got them type of people,
it's going to be hard to agree to anything.
In this world,
it should be about taking care of the people. Everything that's happened to be hard to agree to anything. In this world, it should be about taking care of the people.
Everything that's happened to this world, it ain't like aliens came down and did it.
We've done it to ourselves.
You understand?
And we really need to look out because our mindset is wrong.
We'll send Ukraine 70, 80 billion, but we got homeless people.
No, that's fucked up.
We got things.
And there's nothing against them.
It's just that we need to do more
for our people.
We got our own problem. The thing that happened in Mississippi,
any major tragedy,
all the money that we've given other
countries, we can really fix our problem.
But they just don't want to see
people in America
win for some reason. I don't, I
truly don't understand. And they taking us on the
brink of World War III. Yeah. That shit don't make no fucking sense. Yeah. I truly don't understand. And they taking us on the brink of World War III.
Yeah.
That shit don't make
no fucking sense.
Yeah.
I really don't understand.
But listen,
I could sit here
and talk to y'all
at one o'clock in the morning.
I could hear you talk all day.
I'm being honest.
I said that to my friends
earlier.
I was like,
listen,
I'm going to be honest.
I got to listen to TK.
The thing from you,
Vlad,
the TK Kirkland podcast, shout out to Charlemagne, the God, Angela Yee, everybody.
Listen, you guys are, and I say this to Vlad all the time, you guys are my David Letterman's, my Arsenio Hall's, my shows I couldn't get on in the 90s because the world has changed so much
that these opportunities have given me a platform
that the world can really see who I am.
My Instagram shows it, my shows,
they sell out and to be seen all over the world
because of shows like you.
I took that last shot.
You got one last shot in you.
I want to thank Drink Champs,
the staff,
all you guys.
I'm glad everybody's still alive
and still doing things.
I'm glad y'all still alive.
Cheers.
You family,
let me just tell you something.
I think you've been around
since the beginning.
You are Drink Champs alumni.
I'm glad we're able
to give you your flowers.
I'm glad y'all,
I mean, this right here
is precious, yo.
And continue,
because the thing about it is
we want to continue
to support you.
And we're glad, you know,
you always come, you know,
and come fuck with us.
But we, if there's anything
we could ever do
to support you more,
we're going to continue
to do it.
We love this special
that's about to drop out.
We want to continue to do it.
And this is not your last time.
Even when that special come out on July 4th,
we want you to come back again.
And we're going to sit here, guys,
get you drunk over it,
and try to get you and do whatever,
and give you your flowers again,
because that's what our culture is lacking.
When I'm listening to drill music,
and I'm listening to what the young people are listening to,
that's what they promoting.
They promoting death.
We want to promote life.
We want to promote fun. Yes, they are. We want to promote fun.
And legacy.
And legacy.
Yes, yes.
And the thing about it is,
I hate in this game
where a person has 10 years
and people want to say
that they washed up or whatever.
Like over here,
when you 10, 20, 30 years in this game,
you are seasoned.
You should be saluted.
You should be respected.
Absolutely.
You should be, you know,
flowers on your,
because I know how hard it is to wake up and just be relevant to a person on goddamn Twitter.
Let alone, let alone in life where a person's like, yo, they want to come to your shows and come see you and come support.
And the thing about it is we have to continue to support each other.
No, it's moments like this.
And I'm telling you, you deserve every bit that you show us.
Thank you.
That question you said earlier
about how do I do it,
man, that's a great question because
I do have those moments.
You have to be your own hype man.
You got to be your own manager.
That's so true.
You know what that reminds me of right now?
I think it was Marlon that said that he got up and he would go in the mirror.
Was it Marlon that said that?
He goes in the mirror and he tells himself, hypes himself up.
Was it him?
Yeah, that's too dramatic for me.
No, but every individual, whatever they need.
Yeah, whatever they got to do.
If you don't have a team of people really working on your behalf, if it's just you,
I don't know what Marlon's team is like, but I'm just saying, like, I can't imagine what it is on your own.
Yeah, see, here's the thing, and what he's saying makes sense, because most of the guys got a team.
Right.
When I see DL and all of them, DL got a team.
Yes, management.
When I see Mike Epps, they got a team.
Agents, yeah.
It's just me.
Yeah.
And all I can say is,
nigga, I'm a fly ass motherfucking nigga.
And what's crazy is,
I just want to big that up more.
I want to big that up more because
you got to realize if,
but people with agents and people with management,
if they don't want to come out,
them agents is calling.
He has to call himself.
I call myself.
And I get the deal. He got to FaceTime his own self. Like, nigga, you got to get I call myself. And I get the deal.
He got to FaceTime his own self like, nigga, you got to get up.
When I say I get the deal,
I get the deal, dog.
That's all I can say.
And it's beautiful.
Before you get up, Jamie, you and Jamie Foxx,
you said,
I love that about comedians.
When I see that Dave Chappelle produced
Earthquakes, especially
I sat back and I was like, damn, to me
And we're going to have Earthquake on.
But to me, that was
like, I don't want to say Dave
owed him that because that's not what I'm trying to say.
But that was like, that was something
I wanted.
It's like a pay homage.
So when I hear Jamie Foxx is producing yours,
I'm like,
I'm not saying Jamie owes you
because I don't even know
what y'all history,
but what I'm saying is,
to me,
that is what's supposed
to be happening in comedy.
It's like,
yo, you're the people
that white people
will look at
and the people over there,
and you know this is that guy.
Let me tell you the strategy.
Okay.
When I snatched up my gaps,
D.R. Hughley,
Godfrey, Sandra Bullock.
Sandra Bullock too?
Yeah, all of them.
Jesus Christ.
This is so cold here.
Anthony Michael Hall, John Lucas Zamba,
Sandra Bullock, D.L.
Putting on poor wiggins?
Yeah.
So here's the thing those guys
I brought to my team
because my style
the comedy
was so raw
I needed them
like how Jamie Foxx
the white people
like Jamie
they was
my buffers
to get me
so I had a strategy
wow
get them
all the way in
because now
when we get in
we can make the move
because the move was really about the we can make the move because the move
was really about the man who was sitting behind.
Get the tentacles out.
Exactly.
So we put everybody in position.
Now here I come.
Now, the stage that I'm in in my life now, do I want to be in front of the camera?
I'll do baller blocking.
But in actuality, I just want to, I might want to produce three movies that I know is a blockbuster.
And that's pretty much it.
I really, I'm not really a Hollywood kind of guy.
Like, I'm not about Hollywood.
I tell people that this entertainment world to me is, I tell people I'm a businessman.
Comedy is my side hustle.
That's how I move. I use comedy
to put me in business.
I do a lot of
things that has made me truly successful.
It'll blow people away
if they understood what I was
sitting on. But again,
we're from the streets.
We don't come from that road.
People talk about they tax money now.
Right.
We never heard our parents
talk about taxes.
Never.
Never have you ever
heard your mother or father
bring up they taxes.
But they talk about that shit.
That's crazy.
Yeah, that's real.
Yeah, yeah.
It's all over Twitter.
I didn't hear about taxes.
I know what taxes are.
I've been dealing with taxes.
I've been seeing a skinny guy always posted up with a fat girl.
Right, right, right.
I know it's tax season.
It don't make no sense.
So the rules have changed in this world.
You know, hopefully men like us and your show like us give the young kids a blueprint and a manual to go by.
And gentlemen, listen.
Again, I wish I could stay here all night
because obviously I'm saying
some shit that when you know when
you get people's attention
and everybody's paying the fuck attention.
And I love that shit.
What you're teaching right now
is financial literacy.
And a lot of people don't understand that.
A lot of people
we think that we have to work for every single thing.
We don't understand that there's ways.
There's loopholes.
There's loopholes.
Shout out to Earn Your Leisure.
Shout out to Earn Your Leisure.
There's loopholes.
And that's what you're breaking down.
And I think that's the reason why everyone is sitting here just looking.
Because they're like, they didn't expect that.
They're thinking you're supposed to be just all comedy,
all...
Yeah, no, no, no.
You're actually schooling us.
Yes, yes, yes.
And that to us...
That's how my stand-up is too.
Yeah, but you know,
yeah, but here's a little bit more different
because we don't expect that here.
Yes.
We expect, you know what I mean?
Yes, yes.
And how you breaking it down
and you giving people the actual guidelines to go and get it, We expect that here. Yes. We expect, you know what I mean? Yes, yes. And how you breaking it down,
and you giving people the actual guidelines
to go and get it, that's appreciated,
because I know there's fans that's there
that's going to listen to everything you say.
Yes, yes.
And follow it.
Because I want people to get,
I want you to have money, yo.
Yeah.
Like, you know, you hear that saying,
it ain't always about money.
And I tell people, you're shopping at the wrong place.
Because this is about that motherfucker bread, dog.
You know what I'm saying?
When I lay with a woman, she see how soft my skin is.
You know what I'm saying?
And she's like, nigga, what the fuck you doing?
You know?
I tell the bitch, that's success.
That wasn't expensive. That ain't cash, man. the bitch that's success
One thing about you man you you do preach health you do preach taking care of yourself and
It's so dope. It's so dope. It's so dope to see that balance.
Like, you know what I mean? Because, you know,
like Patrice O'Neal.
Like, you know,
one of the things I connected with Patrice O'Neal
was about health.
I had just lost 40 pounds at the time.
I was about 320 pounds
and I had connected with Patrice.
Wow, good, good.
No, no, no.
Shout out for that.
Yeah, yeah.
So I had Patrice.
Man.
I had connected with Patrice
and I was speaking to him every day
and that was something
that he was on right before.
So when I hear you say that,
it's like, damn, you know,
how many more Patrices O'Neils
are out there
that needs to hear
that same exact thing?
Yeah.
And so I appreciate that,
you know what I mean?
Thank you, family.
Because, you know,
people see us here
and they see us drinking and they think that we do this every day. We do this like once in a while. It know what I mean? Because, you know, people see us here and they see us drinking
and they think that we do this every day.
We do this like once in a while.
It's balance.
Whatever it is.
It's good to know.
But we have that balance.
I was going to say something about it.
No, no, no.
We have the balance.
We have the balance.
But it's important for us to know.
I mean, EFS and CrossFit, you know.
But it was important for you
to speak that just now
and to tell people, listen, man, you can be on the road.
You can go on the road with NWA, but still make sure.
You get your sleep.
You get your rest.
You go get your checkups.
And if you die, you're going to die.
But let it be your own fault.
Yeah, there.
Exactly.
On purpose.
You know what I'm saying?
You want to take advantage of this.
This shit off the chain. I'm saying? On purpose. You know what I'm saying? Like, you want to take advantage of this thing. Right. Because this shit off the, nigga,
this shit off the chain.
I'm just in Hawaii.
I'm not,
I'm just in Hawaii a couple days.
I'm in Miami.
I'm going to go to
motherfucking Paris
and Milan, France.
God damn it.
You don't got to stun us that much.
Huh?
No, I'm here,
I'm either going to
intimidate you or inspire you.
Yo, TK, man,
it's always a pleasure.
I have never seen you and not laugh.
I've never seen you and not had a good time.
I've never seen you and just not felt blessed in totally.
Nigga, listen to me.
When I pulled up and saw you outside,
nigga, I felt honored.
Me too.
I said, what the fuck?
The whole team was waiting on the nigga.
Because you drink champs, nigga.
We're going to take a couple pictures
and you do some drops
and that's it, man. Thank you so much, man.
Oh, man. Bless it.
Another great one.
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