Drink Champs - Episode 360 w/ Wiz Khalifa

Episode Date: April 21, 2023

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this special 4/20 episode the Champs chop it up with the legendary, Wiz Khalifa!A Smoke Champ himself, Wiz talks about his journey, his legendary smoke sessions and much much more!Don’t get lost in the clouds, as there’s tons of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise for Wiz Khalifa!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com  Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps  DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions  N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreaga *Check out our Culture Cards NFT project by joining The Culture Cards Discord: 👇*See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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In the most professional, unprofessional podcast And your number one source for drunk facts It's Drink Champs motherfucking podcast Where every day is New Year's Eve It's time for Drink Champs Drink up, motherfucker I rap the gang, gang, gang What it good be, homies? What it should be? This is your boy, N-O-R-E

What up, it's DJ E-F-N And it's Drink Champs, yappy I will make something And right now, right now When we started this show I wanted this brother on this show. I've got to see him from one of his first shows in New York to here. I don't know if you remember this story.

We'll get to that later. Hold on, let me get to that later. I want to show this brother here. If you put George Clinton, Willie Nelson, Snoop Dogg, and put a little bit of the Beast Boys in there. We'll all feel good music. This is what this brother will be. He is relentless. And I can see him.

And I've never, I can honestly say I don't think I've ever seen him mad. I think I actually see he actually enjoys life. He's been on a crazy mixtape run to all of his accolades, to all of his things and things and things and things. And he got all type of clothing lines. All kinds of merch. Khalifa cushions and all this. Liquors.

And liquors. He's an entrepreneur. He's the first stoner to come here on time. Excuse me. He came early. He came early. I was still getting my hair cut. I was like, oh, this is the first stoner to come here on time. Excuse me. He came early. He came early. I was still getting my hair cut. I was like, oh, this is the first time.

And when I gave him a five, he said, because I'm a businessman, Nor. And in case you don't know who we're talking about, we're talking about the one, the only, motherfucking Wiz Khalifa. What's cracking? Yes, yes, yes. My brother, thank you for being here. Thank you for having me. Yo, one of the first shows I believe that you had in New York,

I don't know if it was the first show, but I think it was one of your top five. It was the first show. It was the first show? Yeah. And do you remember what happened? I do remember what happened. Do you remember what happened?

Yes, I do. Do you remember what you called me? Yes, I do. What did I call you? You called me Wiz Kayafa. Wiz Kayafa. So I'm a kid. I'm still in high school and shit.

I was like 17 years old maybe. And this was all hip hop. It was breeding ground. So this was like early blog era days. Peter Rosenberg. Yeah, exactly. So there was only like a couple cats doing blogs, and they were covering a couple dudes.

And it was me, the cool kids. I think. What was Knowledge in his dude's group's name? They were from Chicago as well. I forget. You said Cool Kids already. Yeah. But yeah, it was us. And Nori was the host.

So he was like, you know, everybody loves Nori. He's legendary. You know what I'm saying? We all look up to Nori. And I fucked up your name. I apologize. It was perfect. You know, let me just say something. It Nori. And I fucked up your name. I apologize. It was classic. It was perfect. You know, you was like,

let me just say something. It was the best. It was the best person to fuck up my name. And I feel like you've been making up your own words anyway. So Kayafa. So that's your AK.

Yeah, Kayafa. It means something. Yeah. You know what I thought? That's how you pronounce the thing in Dubai. Oh, okay. What is it called?

Khalifa. Khalifa, yeah. Yeah, the Burj. I was close. You were close. The Burj was not even built back then. Yeah, it wasn't. No, okay. What is it called? Khalifa. Khalifa, yeah. Yeah, the Burj. I was close. You were close. The Burj was not even built back then. Yeah, it wasn't. Oh, I'm bugging you out there.

Just let me get away with it. Just let me get away with it. This nigga did a silent L. Let me ask you, man, because as soon as I, you know, pulled you up, one of the craziest things on the internet about you is your feet right now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They are on your feet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're on your feet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought you were going to get a foot deal. I swear to God. You said a what?

A foot deal. A foot deal? You ever seen Seinfeld where he became a hair model? Oh, okay. I feel like for some reason you're going to flip and make this positive. I have been getting tons of offers from people to do foot products. Sketches? No.

Snoop? Shout out to Snoop. He doing sketches. But more like moisturizing creams and things that'll lock the moisture in. Because I really don't have bad feet. They just dry. Right. Oh.

Yeah. But I've been working on it, though. They're misunderstood. Yeah. Like a lot of people, they don't take that type of criticism and do anything about it. Like me, I've been lotioning my feet every day. I went and got a pedicure. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

So I'm trying to get it right. Right, now. Let's make some noise for Wiz, man. I feel like you're one of the people that you always feel good energy. Yeah. And to me, you know, in this game of hip hop, you know, so many people, they get always feel good energy like and to me you know in in this game of hip-hop you know so many people they get bitter you know after a while whether they're

successful or not or and i just feel like you always as good energy yeah how do you develop that type of um aura um you kind of just got to take everything and roll with it and i just reach certain points in my life where like looking cool isn't the the the object You know, I just love to make music. I love to take care of my family I love to entertain my fans and as long as I'm doing that I'm pretty happy The other stuff it doesn't really bother me because that's not my that's not what I wake up and do this for right? Yeah, and then like the bitterness I think that comes with like bad relationships or things when you take it personal.

And there's a lot that goes on in this industry that could make you bitter, but you have a choice whether you want to react to it or not. So I just don't let that type of stuff phase me, man. I just base my relationships off of different things and that's how I'm able to move. That's what's up. Yeah, yeah. You got a collaboration with a porn star? Yeah, yeah. Mia Khalifa, man. Like, one of the biggest. She's an ex-porn star, actually. Yeah, so she came into the game.

That's kind of like how people notice her. But she's been able to pivot and do a lot of other things. I think she still has her OnlyFans, though. Right. But I don't know if it's like straight hardcore shit. Nah, we doing Khalifa Kush together. Oh. Yeah, so me having the Khalifa Kush brand.

Shout out to Burner. I built this whole brand with him. It took us 10 years, and now we've been all over the United States. We're going overseas, and we're branching out, and we're doing celebrity endorsement deals as well. She's the first one. And that's under Khalifa Kush, and that Khalifa Kush is under Cookies? No, Khalifa Kush is its own brand. Oh, Stanley. Yeah, but we come from the same cloth, though.

The same cuts that Burner gets his trees from, that's the same tender and care that we putting into the Khalifa Kush product. So anything that comes out under Khalifa Kush, whether it's me, Mia Khalifa, or any other artists that we endorse at the time, it's going to be a really, really up-to-brand product. So bouncing around a little bit,

I remember I think the first time I heard Ty Dolla Signs was with you. Yeah. Is Ty Dolla Signs still with Taylor Gang? Yeah, Ty is always going to be Taylor Gang. We started out managing him. Wow. A lot of people don't know that Taylor Gang is a label and a management company. So a lot of those first moves that you were seeing

in his career were from me and Will managing his career and putting him on tour and just getting him out there basically using the same stuff that we were able to accumulate, but he was already there as well. He already knew a lot of radio people, already knew a lot of writers and producers. It just took a little extra push. And just having the platform that I had, we were able to use that through Taylor Gang.

And Ty's a legend. He was always meant to be who he is. And we were just able to push it a little bit faster. Right. So let me ask you, right? Because coming from Pennsylvania, right? Yeah. And then the known city is? Philly. It's Philly. Yeah how was it harder for you for being from pittsburgh and how was it did you have to navigate because like i know like uh like like you know people from you know uh um sometimes they have to go to to new york yeah was there something like like that you had to skip over philadelphia and go to new york anybody any legends you looked up to that came out before? Yeah.

I mean, it's a long story about Pittsburgh because we were really influential in the early 90s. West Coast sound with Sam Snead and Mel Man. And those are people who worked really close with Suge and Dre and Snoop and really pioneered that sound, but they just weren't in front of everybody. It's clean. So we always had like a... Yeah, it is.

That's good stuff. So we always had a direction that we wanted to go in. We just never had anybody wave that flag for us. And just being from PA in general, I think it's really difficult for a lot of artists, even from Philly, to get noticed or to get looked at and be like, these guys are original

or have they own sound? And I think anywhere, you have to really leave and become bigger somewhere else for your city to kind of look at you as somebody. I feel like even if you're in New York, like nobody's going to call you your rap name. They're going to call you who they know you from the block. You know what I'm saying?

So yeah, exactly. So at the end of the day, you have to make yourself somebody and then come back home. And it was the same thing with Pittsburgh It was a lot of grinding And being a teenager Being somebody who was just trying to find myself As a young adult

And make music that was appropriate to who I was And that translated to other people That were doing different things It took a minute You know what I'm saying But it was worth it. And I love Pittsburgh. There's a lot of dope artists out there.

Man, it's a crazy scene. Underground scene's crazy out there. From the beginning all the way till now, we have a lot of talent out there when it comes to producers, musicians, artists, cameramen, designers. It's such an artistic city, bro. But you don't miss the winners.

No, I don't. It's so cold. I don't miss the winners. No, I don't. It's so cold. I don't miss the winners, man. He said that immediately. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so what was it for the moment? Like, because to me, you're a rock star, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, I mean, you transitioned just being a hip-hop artist, just being a stoner. If not, I think you already are you're you're a superstar right uh-huh but it started from being a rock star at what point did you see yourself transition in um um hip-hop like you know say being i don't want to say you're bigger than hip-hop but you know like feeling like my audience isn't just hip-hop you know what i mean i feel like i have my own like subculture of hip-hop. It's like alternative rap. Right.

Where it's rap, but it's not like hardcore shit. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people like to say crossover or mainstream. But that was always my goal to make big songs. I never wanted to just be underground or just be a nigga who was just known around the way. I wanted to appeal to worldwide crowds, and that's how I write my music. That's how I structure it.

And just my knowledge about music, it goes beyond just hip-hop. And that's why it translates the way that it does. But I think for me, it's more just the attitude than anything because you have to have the knowledge and you have to understand music and how to appeal to people and who you want to appeal to. But also, you have to have music and how to appeal to people and who you want to appeal to.

But also you have to have a certain way about yourself that you present it and pretty much I'll be, sometimes I'm the only one who cares about my opinion. You know what I'm saying? But like, I don't give a fuck sometimes. Like being you in the studio and you're the only one who likes this vibe and you still go with it?

Just in general, about how I want to dress, about how I want to talk, about, yeah, just being different, about how I want to talk. Yeah, just being different, just how I live my life. I'm the only one who agrees with me a lot of the times, but I feel like that's the rock star energy is just not giving a fuck and doing what you want to do and presenting that to people and making people love you for who you are.

And I do it in a safe way. I'm not dangerous. I'm not hurting anybody. I'm not trying to hurt myself. So I always just conducted myself with this confidence in a safe way. I'm not dangerous. I'm not hurting anybody. I'm not trying to hurt myself. So, you know, I always just conducted myself with this confidence and this care for myself.

Yeah. Was the first deal you had with Warner? Yeah, the first deal I had was with Warner. I was the rep and he actually was a young guy working in the street team.

Yeah, yeah. And we worked and you feel that it felt in the beginning, if I remember correctly, and I might, you know, might not, but it felt like in the beginning, Warner didn't know how to work your record.

How to market them? Yeah. At that time, the music business was really just, they didn't know what to do. I think Lil Scrappy was the biggest artist at Warner at that time, and that's because Trillville was popping off, and they had J-Rock, you know what I mean? And Kendrick was under J-Rock, So they didn't know what was going on with who or who was going to be where in 10 years. You dig what I'm saying? And it was up to us as the artists

to like pave that way for them. And yeah, you're right. They didn't know what to do with me, but I had a song that like appealed to the radio. It was called Say Yeah. And it was over at Alice DJ sample. And they never heard nothing like that at that time. They were like, who's this kid mixing rap with techno?

They never heard that. So of course they put me in the studio and tried to get me to make 30 songs like that, but I'm talking about smoking weed and riding around with my homeboys and hanging with girls, and they're like, what the fuck is this? You know what I mean? Where's the techno at? So it didn't work out. Because it felt like, because going back to that blog era, it felt like the traditional marketing style that was being done from the majors wasn't working and it felt like you and that whole generation

found your own lane on your own and you made it work. Yeah, it was just more going on than what the labels were like showing people you know they were just trying to polish it and kind of get uh the best of that but they weren't trying to get everything that was put into that to get to that point and that's what i was showing everybody man do you think artists even need labels at this point hell no right nah if you're an artist... I was going to say, hell yeah. Nah, if you're an artist, you are your own label. Because you know what's crazy about...

Obviously, I come before you, but your generation still, people will get discovered, right? This generation is already building their fan base. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They already have a fan base. If they have 5,000 spins,

it might be 5,000 different people. They're already building their fan base If they have 5,000 spins It might be 5,000 different people They're already building their fan base So I always wonder But then you'll see artists Get some popularity And then they'll still go and they'll sign Why do you think it is that There are good labels out there

That take care of their artists That nurture their artists That promote them And make them a priority. But that's just a certain game that you have to play. And if you don't want to play that game, you don't have to. And I think a lot of the artists sign because they don't know what they're signing up for. I think you should be fully aware of what you're getting yourself into and then sign the paperwork.

Don't sign it thinking that you're going to a rose royce and you're gonna fly private and you know what i'm saying like that's not what you get into it for it's a career it's like signing to a basketball team so you have to put in work and you have to do other things along with that to make it freaking lucrative you know what i mean so it's like it's all a part of what game you want to play but to succeed no you don, you don't need that. All right. No. Like right now, me and EFN is opening a distribution for a podcast. And our contracts are like two pages. It's not no complicated shit. Right.

It's like if you want to be here, you be with us. Right. You don't want to be there. I feel like record labels, if you sign to a label, it should be that simple. It shouldn't be that complicated. Nah, it should be. Especially with all the be that simple. It shouldn't be that complicated. Nah, it should be, especially with all the niggas who's going to jail these days.

The niggas on drugs, so you got to have life insurance for a nigga. You're making an investment, so you know what I'm saying? You got a lot. It's like a car. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, but even a car is not a lifetime contract. There's people who have life, time, and perpetuity In the universe Like I'm sorry To sound like the old thing But when we But when we signed

There was no digital In my contract That shit never existed You know what I'm saying But it did Because of In the universe They said the universe

Yeah yeah But what is it called Perpetuity I didn't know what Perpetuity It's still in the contract Yeah yeah yeah Nah I mean

At the end of the day Like you just gotta know what you signed up for like you can own certain shit and then you can break bread on certain shit for a certain amount of time

as well you just work it out into your favor and then just like you said these days it's more dependent on the artist so the more you walk

in there with if you have a fan base and things like that the more leverage you have to say this is what I want to do for how long. So that's my advice for anybody is to just build up your leverage. So when you do actually, you know, start taking those meetings or considering it, you know, you're in a good place.

And so you can level up, take advantage of the machine. Yeah, no, no doubt. Thank you, brother. Do you know you're a legend? Yes, I do. Okay. I love that. I love that. Smoke some uka to that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what we smoke right now. You know, that's your butt in there. Oh, it tastes amazing. I feel like I'm in Dubai. Tastes rosy. Tastes like flowers. Oh, my God. Mr Oh my god Mr. Lee

Mr. Lee This is made of water This is good weed man What show are you at? Heat it Heat it to a temperature That turns it from Not into smoke

But into vapor So it's not smoke It's not harsh It's not bothering you It's just vapor That's right I can't We got all type of commercials out.

This is motherfucking. They're killing it. This thing is dope. Look at y'all. This technology right here. Yeah, this ain't no coal. Now. Oh, so you can get more.

We can adjust. What does that do? Righty tighty lefty loosey. Mine's ain't going. I got lotion on my hands. Oh, here we go. Here we go. Oh, okay.

So it's got to be on them. Yeah, I see the different modes. Oh, damn. So it's different modes? Oh, shit. It's different modes? Yeah. Hold on.

Hold on. Is this one off? Because he's got three. Diego, help him up. The third one. The third. Is this one off? Help him out, bro. Diego, help him out. The triple. The third one. The third one is the one. Come in.

Come through. Yes. All right. He's from the company right here. I got it. I found it. Three is the hardest. That's the one?

Yeah. All right. I'm going to turn that bitch off. No. You wanted to finish the interview? Yeah. Three is the hardest? Yeah. Three is the hardest? Yeah, the three.

You get more smoke. All right, man. You got the cartridges? So we can show them. Show them the cartridges. That's official. But Wiz, we want you to know. I'm just going to take this with me, okay?

Yes, yes. Absolutely. We want you to know our show is about giving people their flowers we want to literally give you your flowers thank you these are flowers it's like a grammy it's beautiful yes

that's exactly where I'm going to put that now another thing about hearing your music, I was running through it. We mentioned in watches a lot, man. Yeah. You a watch guy? Yeah, I was. You was? I slowed down since I had a kid.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I hadn't bought a watch in a minute. Actually, Burner bought me this watch. This was a gift, man. He just popped up at my house one day. He was like, you know, thanks for being a good friend.

You've been a real good friend. That's fine. He's like, you walked into my life at a real important time. He was like, I just want to show you how much I appreciate you. He gave me a bust down. God damn it. Shout out to Burner, man. Shout out to B, man.

Shout out to B. I got to upgrade my friends, man. Y'all got to step it up it. Shout out to Burner, man. Shout out to B, man. Shout out to B. I got to upgrade my friends, man. Y'all niggas got to step it up. Boy on the cover of Forbes, man. That's a good friend. I'm fucking around. Shout out to Burner. He got that with the 420 box.

And the first thing that pops up is the drink champs. Oh, yeah? See, Burner be showing love. He got the screen. He got the screen. We're going to the lake house, B. I'll see you in a second, brother. You ever thought, I know this is kind of a cliche,

but back then, people would be locked up for touching any type of bud. Totally. I remember one time in my hood, I threw the joint away. The shit blew away, and the police still arrested me. He said, I saw you smoking. I was like, there was no evidence.

I mean, this is fucked up. I was like, there was no evidence. I mean, like, this is fucked up. And now in New York City, you can smoke right in front of the police. You ever thought this day would happen? No, I didn't. I mean, actually, I did, but I didn't think it was reality. Like, I thought I was just thinking some crazy

shit. Like, you thought Amsterdam would just be Amsterdam and that's it. I mean, even over there, you had to go in the smoke shops. Like, you couldn't just smoke on the street. Like, that's true. Nig and that's it. Even over there, you had to go in the smoke shops. You couldn't just smoke on the street. That's true. That shit is recreational. You can just smoke butt and they're removing it from piss tests. They're not drug testing people for marijuana.

They left it out of the NBA. They do it for probation or parole. What the hell? You know how many people smoke a little weed and end up going back to jail? Right. Man, that's amazing, bro. There's a lot of motherfuckers

that don't need to smoke some weed. Yeah, yeah. Just smoke a little blood. You deserve to be on the streets. Smoke some hookah. Get your life together. You don't need to be in jail because of weed.

Get that hookah in your life. I'm very happy about that. And yeah, I think a lot of people are going to benefit from it. Right. Now, you said that you're overseas with the Khalifa Kush. Yes.

So we're in Amsterdam now or you've been in Amsterdam? We're in Amsterdam. We're going to Thailand. We're going to Germany. Okay. Yeah, those are a few places. The UK.

You know a part of Germany? No, just the whole country, dog. Okay. Yeah, just Germany. Duzu Doth, my friend. Yeah, German weed, bro. It's like saying Duzu Doth. We doing mushrooms over there, too.

Doing mushrooms. He want to bring you some mushrooms. You got the psychedelic mushrooms over here. You got some chocolates? All right, let's get it. Well, off camera, because, you know. Yeah, I felt like. Those are crazy.

Where the fuck did you get them from? That's Eric's thing? Bro. Yeah, it's a homie that's down here. I had some of them at Coachella one time. I was just laying down on the ground, bro. I'm going to do champagne.

Yeah, relax, boys. I don't want you to lay down on the ground right now. No, that's why we all just lay down and do the podcast, bro. Just like Marvin Gaye, bro. He had my friend

fucked up one day. Did he take a big piece like that or no? When Swim was talking about the Royals? Yeah, yeah. Nah, them shits will have you fucked up right there. Did he take a big piece like that or no? When Swim was talking about the Royce? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, them shits will have you fucked up right there. Yes, there's a whole eighth in there.

That's an eighth. He stole her, too. He stole her. That's an eighth. Whoa. It's not an eighth? He pulls a seven or like an eight. Point seven, point eight.

Yeah, it's an eighth. Oh, point eight. Point eight. Point eight. Oh, okay. Okay, okay. The one I had had an eighth. Three, yeah. Okay, okay. The one I had had a... Yeah, the one I had was a whole eighth

and just that little-ass chocolate. Yeah, I felt like I was on a roller coaster. All right, he's your real friend. Or your brother, like, whatever it is. He's a good friend. He likes you. Yeah. Remember, I felt peer pressure with Mike Tyson.

Well, I eat me too. I don't do none of this shit. He ain't eat it. You better eat the shell. I don't shit in that part. He gave you all shrooms? Yeah, he gave us the chocolate. Listen, he put it in there.

I love Mike Tyson, but I can't eat shrooms raw like that part. I was like, I can't do it. No, no, he gave us the chocolate bar. He gave us the chocolate once. But it was a live podcast in front of an audience. But by the way, he wasn't aggressive at all. But in my mind, he was like, yeah. And I was like, all, and I was like,

all right. I felt him was aggressive. He was like, you better eat this shit. It's Mike Tyson, bro. Yeah, it's Mike Tyson. You never know. Was this your first time meeting Mike Tyson

when you just did his show? Nah, I met him before. And you met, you met Stoner Tyson because there's a different version where he didn't get stoned. Nah, I did. I met him when he wasn't getting stoned, but he was always nice to me, though. Okay. Yeah, nah, he's a cool dude. He's a different version where he didn't get stoner. I did. I met him when he wasn't getting stoner,

but he was always nice to me, though. Okay. Yeah, he's a cool dude. He's a cool dude. But this is the coolest version of Mike. He just seems like one of those dudes like don't fuck with him type dudes. You know what I'm saying?

You don't play with Mike Tyson. Don't play with him. You know what I mean? All that playing around and shit. Like some niggas don't like that shit. I remember it was funny as hell. EFM gave him a smoke champs joint. He took the smoke champs joint out.

He just gave it back to him. You held it. I was like... funny as hell. Your friend gave him a Smoke Champs joint. He took the Smoke Champs joint out. He gave it back to him. And you held it. I was like. He loves weed. After the pod. After his pod. Yes, after the pod. He was mad aggressive there.

Yeah, he was aggressive. He loves weed. He's all about that weed. And didn't you also just play George Clinton? Sure did. Where'd you play it about? It's this movie called Spinning Gold. It just came out.

It's in theaters. It's about the story of Casablanca Records. Neil and all of the homies who started up this record label that hosted a bunch of legendary acts, Kiss, the Isley Brothers, Funkadelic, Parliament, freaking Donna Summer, Village People. They just had the disco era on lock and um yeah it just kind of describes their whole story and their rise and you know uh in the music industry and what effect they had and the stories that go along with that

and i played george clinton that's fucking cool as hell his grandkids was on uh on the set yeah with us they were actually in the band. So it was really cool, man. It was like. You guys met me, George. Yeah, fuck yeah. Hell yeah. We smoked Halloween. He was here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right before I met him in person, he was like, yeah, I was just down there and blah, blah, blah. His grandkids were here. I think it smokes Halloween. Oh, yeah. He went in. He went in. I thought it was a joke because there's like, you know, we don't want to make the older guys drink and shit.

So we'd be like, okay, smoking. All right, cool. guys drink and shit so we be like okay right cool oh he kept going yeah yeah I performed with him too at the premiere that shit was cool as hell yeah it was it was dope to rock with his band like I'm like a real music nerd so just to see him conducting his band and here excuse me and hearing everybody like doing what they was doing it was really tight tight. It was really inspirational. What's an artist that you didn't have to work with that you would love to work with? JG.

That's still alive. Yeah, yeah. I haven't worked with Hov yet. And he smokes weed now too, so that's pretty cool. I want to work with Hov, man. Yeah. That would be fun.

I want to work with Hov. I think we should make some noise for that. I think we should make some noise for that. I need to get Hov stoned, man. Y'all ready for Quick Time? Oh, we got quick time ready? Yeah Yeah, you want to explain the rules? Yeah, we give you two names, places, or things

You pick one Or if you pick neither or both We drinking or smoking Okay You can take a shot, I guess, of the Uka Yeah, yeah, yeah By the way, before we start that Did you invent kush ups?

No, I didn't. Okay. I didn't. So like the game of ping pong, Bear Pong, what is the legendary story of kush ups? Kush ups is you take 10 puffs and you hold it in until you can't, until you, you know, yeah. Can you do kush ups? If you can achieve 10, if you can achieve 10, then that's like the, you know, the respective number of push-ups. So if you don't make it to 10,

then you tap out and you still need to work on your lungs and you need to get your push-ups together. You need to get it together. Yeah. Hey, bro, I've seen some of the best foes, so it's all good, man. Don't even worry about it.

Don't even trip. Take practice. What's a dab? A dab? I fuck with dabs. I smoke, take practice. What about dabs? A dab? I fuck with dabs. I smoke, you know, it's whatever, bro. Bongs, papers, bowls. I just don't hit blunts, that's the only thing.

Yeah, it's the famous footage that you kicking the dude out of the studio. He was in the studio session. I was like, damn, Wiz is racist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He racist against the blood smells a lot. You got to stand on something these days. Yeah, it was terrible. He racist against the blood. You got to stand on something these days. Yeah.

It was terrible. We were in a studio. It was like a dense area. He was like blowing a grape swisher over you. I just want to get

this guy out of here, bro. You just want him to do it. Yeah, I offered him a joint. He didn't want it, so I was just like, get out. I'm not going to lie to you today. It was almost like God sent because I woke up this morning

and I had no swishes and all I had was papers and I was like, look at fucking Wiz's God working on me. And it was crazy. Before I asked for the blunts, I just started rolling joints.

The problem is with me, I suck at rolling joints. I can't roll. They got cones. I suck even more at that. It's just a cone. I'm going to show you a picture. I'm going to show you a picture of what I did this morning. I had a whole shit pregnant.

It was like, yeah, I couldn't do it. I can't do it. I guess I got a great grinder. But how did you learn how to roll a blunt? Being in the hood. Yeah. Drinking milk and cookies Being in the hood. Yeah. Drinking milk and cookies. Yeah, okay. Nah, but he be rolling my blunts, though. Yeah, yeah, he roll my blunts.

Okay, makes sense. Okay, so we're going to be ready for the quick time. And I'm going to do... I'm actually going to do... Sonny's not here, right? Oh, Sonny's here? You want to drink for him, too? I'm going to do Japanese. You want to take shots for him? To be the ringer? Sonny is ready. He right? Oh, Sonny's here? You want a drink for him, too? I'm going to do Japanese. You want to take shots for him? Sonny will take shots.

He'll be the ringer? Sonny is ready. He's got lint in his fucking... around the rim of the glass. Fuck, Sonny. Sonny, he'll smoke, but you'll drink a shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'll be the ringer.

Smoke a little... Smoke a little whiz joint. Now, wait. Before we start this... Oh, I should have brought the... Didn't you guys... Oh, shit. It's filled already? Yeah. Okay. All right. I should have brought the TAC. Didn't you guys? Oh, shit. It's failed already?

Okay. All right. I should have brought the TAC, Mama Juana. They have one. Oh. Damn. Didn't you guys have a collab with Raw? Yeah, I fuck with Raw.

Okay. Yeah, man. Raw has been the premier joint and just our joint of choice probably since we started smoking them, me and Spitta, we crossed over to joints around the same time, him before me. But I made it in time to create the law with him. And we went through a couple different types of joints. There was zigzags. There was easy widers. There was Randys.

They had these little wire in them and you could like smoke it like that uh yeah juicy jays and then elements we liked elements and then we found out that element and raw was of the same company but we just like raw a little bit better and then that's what we started running with the unbleached you know uh the raw paper dips was it unbleached what does that mean there's paper dips. Unbleached? What does that mean? It's paper, but it's not bleached. A lot of papers. Yeah, there's no chemicals.

A lot of papers are like bleached and have different chemicals and stuff like that that you're smoking on. Yeah, might as well be smoking a blunt. Some of y'all are enjoying smoking, but come out. We caught. Come out. The beady smokers, hold up. Yeah. The beady?

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But we got Khalifa papers coming out. Yes, that's what we were talking about. That's what we have, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So everything I i enjoy i just spin it into my own lifestyle as you should you know so you you want to talk about your liquor company because we yeah mcqueen mcqueen is uh it's a gin you know anybody who who followed me early in my career i used to drink a shit ton of gin and uh we we drank bombay but that really wasn't that good so we designed something that was based off of a better taste still the same great gin feel

uh but it's really smooth like a lot of people who drink gin they don't like the flavor of it but this one's smooth it mixes well and uh we have an infused one that just came out too it's called uh ultraviolet this is the blue one yeah it was uh it's purple yeah so this is the the full name of it is mcqueen violet fog and the purple one is ultraviolet but we're in the same family as uh duse uh bel air uh bamboo veon those are a couple of our other companies we just keep making other little brands and blowing them things up you You know what I mean? The bottles are hella nice. Yeah, hell yeah. It's a good gin.

We taking over. So you're not taking shots, though? No, absolutely not. Nah, I'll let y'all have that. You know what I'm saying? All right, is it true before we go on to that, Currency put you on the Rockin' Jordans? Yeah, I had never even owned a pair of Jordans before I met Currency. I never had one pair of J's before.

I wanted some, but I just never had them. What were you wearing before? Chucks. I was going to say Comfort. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, in Pittsburgh, like, it's Air Forces, Timbs. Niggas wore J's, but, like, I had to choose, like, if I was going to spend that much money on sneakers or other things. So, it's like, you know, just growing up, that was just, I never even thought about that, like spending $130 or $50

on a pair of shoes. Like, I would go to Army, Navy and get some Dickies and get some white tees and some Sharks. Carhartt like a motherfucker. Like, that was my whole style. So like, yeah.

So, I mean, but Tim's cost a lot, but you get like one pair of them a year. Like, you know what I mean? Like, for real, for real. Not in New York. Yeah. In New York, we like six pair a year. year like you know what i mean like for real for real not in new york yeah

in new york we be like six pair yeah well i was a kid yeah i was a child okay okay yeah i mean all right two pair yeah yeah like it's religion in in new york yeah i feel you like and it's crazy because you got to get the right ones don't get the crazy because you got to get the right ones. Don't get the ones not the leather. No, you got to get the leathers. The double, like the soles got to be right on there and everything. We call them butters in Pittsburgh. It's a science to this shit. Yeah, yeah. But we mainly wore like forces and shit like that.

But yeah, currency put me on to sneakers and cars and just like street wear fashion in general. You know what I'm saying? I always had good taste. You know what I mean? But just like knowing what to in general. Like, you know what I'm saying? Just, I always had good taste. Like, you know what I mean? But just like knowing what to get, like. That's fire. Yeah, he put me in the right direction. Thanks so much for coming.

Thank you. Need you back, Ernst. Hang on. Ready to rock? All right. All right. Cool. Wanted to make sure I wasn't a killer.

Damn, each other kill me the other day. You taking shots, right? I'm going to take some. Yeah, join me. I'm going to join you. I'm going to join you. attorney well if we're saying oh that's good it's a great great gas drink damn damn he got a point smoke anyway no one let's go yeah ready uh-huh first one to pocket DMX X ooh you got it got a reason why oh I got a reason why? Do I have a reason why? You don't have to.

You don't have to explain. Oh, both great actors, both great, like a lot of passion, both poets. But I think for me, I went and bought X's first single. Like, I got Get At Me, Dog with Stop Being Greedy on the other side. I bought the tape. So, like, it just means more. That black and white video. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.. I bought the tape. It just means more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you say tape?

Yeah, yeah. Gotta make some noise for you, sir. Yeah. It means a little bit more. That man just said he bought DMX tape. Yeah, yeah. That's hard. Okay, you want to go to the next one?

Yeah. Snoop or currency? Damn! No, you can say both. You can say both. And that's when we drink. And that's's when we drink If you say both or neither we drinking And you gotta take five Take a shot Sonny Cheers

You gotta do pushups It's different It's his favorite So I look Oh shit It's different because it's paper. So I look. Oh, shit. Spencer Northwood wins. God damn. That hook is working.

Shit. All right. Okay. Don't do that again. Okay. I got it on two. Shit. Hold on.

I got to go back to one. God damn. Wow. All right. Cool. Yeah, three to lose. That's it. That's it. All right. Let's go. Wow. All right, cool. Yeah, three of those. That's hitting. That's hitting. All right, let's go. Yes. Be real or burner?

Fuck. Shots? Yeah, solo. Both. Yeah. One, two, three, four. Oh, four. Ooh, ooh.

Let's make some noise for Heavy. All right, I'm in the game now. Got that Ugas lit, baby. That Ugas going in. That Ugas gone, baby. I'm about to write a song in this bitch. You got it? Oh, no, I'm lost. I'm going to ooga down.

I got you. I got you. Kiss or styles? Fuck, I ain't going to disrespect none of them. Both. Good. Salute. One.

You should go for six. Make it even. Two. Three. Four. That shit getting me high and I ain't even smoking it. Five. Oh, oh. The oatmeal.

Six. Oh, you just going to keep going. Oh, damn. Seven. Damn. Got one of my shots. It's a long game, it's a long game. Damn. Got no questions. It's a long game. It's a long game. Eight.

Nine. I'm setting the standard. Yes, yes, yes. We got a bar. Ten. All right. Yes, yes. Oh, by the way Set the tone Let's pick up the Uka And this is the 420 edition Yeah, the bar's being set

Yes, yes, the bar's being set I ain't gonna lie to y'all Don't call it the gun We call it the machine Yeah, relax Call it the machine Get the machine out Like the area

No guns on premise Yeah, no guns, please No, no, no, no Anybody want to do it again? Yeah, the machine All right, all right. Well, wait. Wait till the next one.

If I have to. Okay, cool. And that joins you. What y'all putting in there? Y'all putting KK in there? I do. I do. Yo, look, look, look.

I don't even think I don't see if you peeped his face when he said you got KK in there. He looked up like you got some? We good, baby. You didn't see if you peeped His face when he said You got KK in there He looked up like You got some? We good baby You didn't see his face though?

We good baby His face was so excited Like oh Look ahead Red man or method man? Oh fuck Alright This is no disrespect

Because we draw a line I don't like breaking groups up But meth for me Okay Because of his voice. Okay. Red got bars. Meth got bars. Both funny as hell. Both got great timing. Right.

But Meth's voice is crazy. Oh, their stage presence, too. Their stage presence. Crazy. Best ever. But Meth's voice is a little bit iller. I ain't going to lie. Okay. I love how all his answers is pure hip bit iller. I ain't going to lie. Okay. I ain't going to lie. I love how all his answers is pure hip-hop answers.

I ain't going to lie. I'm bad at prep. I know music, bro. I know that. Trust me. I know. You're down to this? No, no.

I'm just saying, I'm more, even more, when I expect it, I'm even more like, how was that shit called? You're blowing my mind. Thank you, man.

Yes. Appreciate that. I love, I love. Yeah, you got to do the knowledge, kid. Yeah, I love it. Okay, okay. All right. Thank you, man. Yes. Appreciate that. I love, I love. Yeah, you gotta do the knowledge, kid. Yeah, I love it. Okay, okay. All right. Khaled or Drama?

Drama. Okay. I love Drama, bro. I love Khaled, too. Khaled's a great personality. You had a Gangsta Grillz? I did. 28 Grims.

Broke the internet, all that. Drama, he's just like a pioneer just for the mixtapes. And he got like, I feel like he got, I think Khaled's like an official-ass DJ, but Drama got more mixtapes. And he got like, I feel like he got, I think Khaled's like an official-ass DJ, but Drama got more mixtapes. Oh, yeah. No, Drama's a mixtape legend. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And what he's doing right now with those juice skits for his album? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I love that. I love that. Oh, my God. I think to me personally,

Drama gets that one. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. I say DJ-wise, but I feel like overall producer, I feel like Khaled might have that as just, as a producer. Like producing albums? I think as-wise, but I feel like overall producer, I feel like Khaled might have that as a producer. I think as a producer, Khaled is better than a lot of fools.

He's got a great ear, and he knows how to put that shit together. And he doesn't mind going after a record, bro. That nigga get on a fucking private jet. He'll go anywhere and everywhere. And that's what it takes. That's what it takes. Because some niggas will give up, or they'll be like, oh, I'm going to wait like, you know, three, four days. He's like, nah, fool.

Let me get that verse. And I respect the hell out of that. And he's always been like that because, you know, we Miami cats. And he's been like that since the beginning. That's dope. That's what it takes, bro, for sure. All right. Cheat or Chong?

I got to do both. That's a good one. Have you met them? Yeah, yep. Hell yeah. That's dope. All right, cheers. You drink it up. Sonny, what you doing? Come on. Have you met them? Yeah, yep. Hell yeah. That's dope. All right, cheers. You drink it up, Sonny.

What you doing? Come on. You going for it? Yeah, take a shot. You should have been taking the rum. That's the easy one. Okay, then take the hookah. How many is that, Wiz?

I'm doing five now. You're doing five? Yeah, yeah. It's okay. It's okay. It's acceptable payment Yes, sir Alright, we already know What you're going to say to this

Sir, yes Oh, maybe not Let's see Let's get it Cookies or gumbo? Weed or like Weed, weed Oh, okay

I never had gumbo before Damn Who makes gumbo? Gumbo My friend Gumbo, man Yeah, damn Who's Gumbo? Yeah, it's Who's Gumbo?

Yeah, it's a homie. It's a homie. Luca Braz. Oh, I'm- He down with Burner too? Yeah. Yeah, I was about to say, I'm a weed snob, so I'm real bougie. I hit him, but he was on Ramadan, and to bring something here, he was on Ramadan, I didn't

want to- Gumbo's on the list of things to try. Okay, that's right. Let's make some gumbo. Okay. Tight dollar or juicy? Damn it. Both. Yeah, that's right. Let's make some life a gumper.

Okay. Ty Dolla or Juicy? Damn it. Both. All right. Juicy J. I'm glad I'm not drinking because y'all would have had me lit. I'd have been smacked.

Yeah. All right. Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock? Yeah. All right. Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock? Yeah. Dave Chappelle. He way funnier. Okay. What does that mean?

No. That's your opinion. I mean, the last comment you made. All right. Uka or hookah? Uka. Make sure the hookah got there. By the way, I don't know if you realize, these are sexy.

Like, you know, the hookah shit, you got to burn it. It could be on Star Wars and shit. You could burn yourself. This is cool. It just needs, like, a little light around it. You know what I mean? It needs, like Star Wars and shit. You could burn yourself. This is cool. It just needs like a little light around it. You know what I mean? It needs like a little neon, like a little light up, little LED. You know what I'm saying? Shorties will go crazy over that.

Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, yep. All right, Biggie or Pun? Biggie or Pun? Big Pun, yeah. Damn. Well, I'm going to have to go Big. Okay.

Yeah, but I fuck with Pun, though. Pun's hard. Yes. Any reason why you, is it something big? Biggie was just smoother. Well, I'm going to have to go big. But I fuck with Pun, though. Pun is hard. Any reason why? Is it something big? He was just smoother. You know what I mean? He talked about clothes and shit like that. About shit like, if I go shopping now, I'll just be seeing some shit that Biggie said in the 90s.

You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Pun had bars, but he didn't have bars like that, though. You know what I mean? Versace. Yeah, yeah. Like Pun had bars, but he didn't have bars like that, though. You know what I mean? He was more talking about like breaking niggas' backs in like several places and shit like that. That was cool, too. Radio or podcast? Oh, you're talking about like as far as radio, like listening to jams or like podcasts is just like.

However you want, like what platform to you is better. Whatever you want. I'm going to go podcast. Okay. Goddamn. Make some noise. Yeah. ASAP Rocky or Big Sean?

Damn. Them was both my partners. Them was both my brothers. I love Big Sean. But I feel like I'ma have to go Rocky Okay I'ma go Rocky Because I don't look up

To a lot of niggas When it comes to dressing And Rocky can dress His ass off Right And Sean can dress too Right But it's just like

A different type Like you know what I'm saying Like they don't really Go against each other And Rocky I'll be looking at his fits, and Rocky can really dress. So I'm going to say Rocky. But Sean's the better rapper, in my opinion.

Sean's a better rapper than me. Sean's a better rapper than a lot of niggas that I know. So when we're talking lyrics, I'm going to say Sean. But as far as the nigga, Rocky. Rocky's the nigga. Sounds like a shot to me. It sounds like he said both, but not really. Because I love them. They're my brothers. You wanted to say both. They's the nigga. Sounds like a shot to me. It's not like he said both, but not like he said both. Because I love them.

They're my brothers. You wanted to say both. They're the smartest way ever. We need to have a good conversation about that. People need to know why. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to take a shot for you anyway. All right, well, I'm going to hit the roof.

Take a shot. And they're both Drink Chance alumni, too. Yeah, yeah. Both of them niggas. Mm-hmm. All right, let's see if it's the same with these. Yeah. Rick Ross or French Montana?

Both big homies of mine, but I'm going to go with Rosé, though. Okay. Just because Rosé invited me to his crib in Atlanta and had a mountain of freaking weed that me and Currency could roll out of. He drove us around and bought us sneakers. It was, like, cool as hell, bro. It was, like, the Rick Ross dream. The Rick Ross that you got shopping? Yeah, he just took us to his store. He was like cool as hell, bro. It was like the Rick Ross dream. Rick Ross dream.

Yeah, he just took us to the store. He was like, get whatever you want, little niggas. We was like, hell yeah. It was early on for you, man. We were like, yes! It was like a hip-hop father. This wasn't last week. This was a while ago. And Rose actually got me my deal with Brett. Shout out to Brett. Shout out to Brett.

We got to have Brett on the show. Yeah, Brett was asking him about some people who would be good for branding and help build the company. And he was like, whiz. He was like, I know that little nigga's about his business. He does his thing. He's actually out here in the field. And he's going to promote. He spoke really highly of me and still does.

And you know, French is my man. We went on tour together. We made money together. We got hits together. Rosé. Okay. Shout out to Rosé. Sour or Kush? Kush. Y'all are safe on that one. Y'all are safe.

Hold on. I like the way you just looked over Sour like that. Oh yeah, you did. I used to like Sour. Everything for him was Sour. Yeah, yeah. Wait a minute. Sour. Yeah, yeah. Everything for him was sour. Yeah, yeah. Wait a minute. Why'd you... Sour's cool. He's looking down on you right now.

He definitely did. No, we smoked Sour. But when you mixed Sour with Kush and got headband... Headband, yes, yes. It just made Sour, like, even, like, better. And Presidential OG.

But that was Sour mixed with headband and Kush. Presidential OG. You never had that one? with headband and Kush. Presidential OG. You never had that one? Yeah, nah. Okay. That sounds like two-third, two- Yeah, it probably is.

Like, yeah, whatever the fractions are. Yeah, but headband- More Sawa than Kush. Headband was Sawa and Kush, though, wasn't it? Yes, it was half and half. Yes. That shit was fire. No, that was fire.

Headband, yeah. Straight Sawa, though? Hell no. You got to realize, we come from where they invented the word loud. So where they invented the word loud, that was- I don't know if loud was invented in New York. That's a Chicago term. That's a Chicago term.

That's a Midwest term. That's a New York term. What year? I'm not into the culture. You got to relax. But I know that this didn't come from New York. You got to buy your business. What year?

I don't know. It was Chicago, bro. Nah, I swear to God. I'm a weed historian. Yeah. I don't think it was New York. I'm a word historian. All right.

Word-orian? We'll ask E-40. Exactly. E-40 know more than all of us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll ask E-40. Yes, yes, yes. E-40 was great.

He don't know East Coast terminology. He knows everything. He East Coast terminology he knows everything he knows everything I'm giving that one up to 40 we ain't gonna argue about it back to the sour

okay sour what about it yeah sour that's how we say it in Pittsburgh how do you just he said sour he said sour

sour flowers but yeah so you said what about it to me cause sour to me sour comes from Canada so there's no way it could have went to Chicago Sarah Flass But yeah So you said What about it To me Cause Sour To me Sour comes from Canada

Okay So there's no way It could have went to Chicago Before it came to New York Because you come from Canada Right to New York Boom Not the actual Sour

The word I was talking about the word loud Oh I was talking about The actual plant The actual plant Comes from Canada Okay Canada

I believe Canada Montreal Vancouver area That makes sense And Toronto Then you know Comes to New York That's why New Yorkers I believe Canada, Montreal, Vancouver area. That makes sense. And Toronto, then, you know,

comes to New York. That's why New Yorkers, I believe we had an abundance. So it was easier. And it was loud. Yeah. Because you couldn't like, that was the first weed you had to put in jars.

Yeah. Remember, like, remember, weed didn't come in jars before. It's just so loud. First weed I bought in a jar

was some haze. That's the haze man right there. You know what I'm saying? You got to goze. That's the haze man right there. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, listen, listen. How many people I know about weed? You didn't say the haze. I bought some haze. And then out here was Crippie.

Some purple. Out here when it came out, it was Crippie. It was Crippie. It was Crippie's cousin. Crippie? Yeah, it wasn't quite haze. Yeah, yeah.

It was like fluffy like the haze, but it didn't stink like it though. Crippie smelled amazing. It still to this day wasn't quite haze Yeah It was like fluffy Like the haze But it didn't stink like it though Crippy smelled amazing Jada Kip still to this day Wants haze Jada Kip I be like let it go That pip

That pip That real pip Will put you to sleep Yeah That shit smells different Try the nictopif Try the nictopif This is the taste

Oh my god Oh my god I'm gonna tell my uncle What? Oh my I see This gave me some real piss. Oh my goodness, bro.

Mr. Lee just went to Uptown to get that. That's crazy. He just pulled out some haze. What the fuck? I'm smoking this, bro. It don't even got no label on it. That's how you know Yeah listen

This is real This is drug dealer weed right here Drug weed right here This is drug weed right here Yeah I'm putting this in my pocket I'm at it Nobody hold this one for me

I got this one I'm going to hold on to this one I'm at it hold on to this one. I'm mad at him. Ice Cube or Scarface? Damn. I love Scarface as a lyricist, but I'm going to go Cube because of the way he did with movies. Like, you know, Friday, just like, you know, pivoting and just, you know, being a legend. But yeah, yeah, Cube.

I ain't going to draw that one out too far. Half-baked or Friday? Damn, half-baked for sure. draw that one out too far. Half-baked or Friday? Damn, half-baked for sure. Yeah, I'm going to go half-baked. Friday is a classic. You know what I'm saying? Everybody knows Friday. But I think the story of half-baked is just funny as hell.

And Dave Chappelle is one of my favorite comedians. Yes, Cuban B. I love that part. That's what I say. I'm Cuban, so I use that all the time. That whole shit is hilarious. And I'm from part. That's what I say. I'm Cuban, so I use that all the time. That whole shit is hilarious. And I'm from Jamaica. What part of Jamaica?

By the beach? By the beach. Lil Wayne or Drake? Wheezy. Yeah, yeah. Drake is hard. You know, he got fucking more hits than anybody. Right.

Yeah. But I think Wayne just sparked a whole culture for everybody. Drake is hard You know he got Fucking more Hits than anybody Right Yeah But I think Wayne Just sparked the whole Culture for everybody Like And then like When he started As a hot boy Wayne

And then when he came back out Like Lyricism Wayne It's Wayne before Mixtape Wayne He's like Put on Drake Yeah yeah

Wayne's Wayne's up there for sure Let's see here Nipsey or Eazy-E? Nip Rest in peace to both Yeah rest in peace to both But I'm going to say Nip

Because that was my friend You know what I mean? That was my homeboy Eminem or Busta Rhymes? Busta Rhymes for sure Lyricism is up there But well Busta wouldn't want to hear that He'll be like

I'll kill that nigga But he'll say that with anybody. Exactly. Which is what a real lyricist MC would say. He don't want to hear none of that shit. But Busta inspired me a lot, man. Like you might not see it in my style. I can see it a little bit.

I can see the animation. Exactly. Like just being animated, being like more goofy and more silly and just like not catering to one or two crowds, just being myself. But he still gets the respect that he deserves. Nobody looks at him like somebody who you could just run up on,

you know what I mean? Just because he smiles. Yeah, he does that on stage, but his offstage is not that. Right, and he's great on stage. I always loved fast rappers. That's always been one of my favorite things growing up as a kid.

His videos always been amazing. Yeah, Busta Rhymes is one of my favorite dudes, man, for sure. His videos always been amazing. Busta Rhymes is one of my favorite dudes, man, for sure. He's a great dude, man. Great. Legend, too. He gives good hugs. Yes. He'll let you know.

He'll let you know. He'll squeeze your hand, bro. Words of encouragement are just amazing. Love that guy. Ye or Pharrell? Kanye or Pharrell? Pharrell, for sure.

Ye is, you know, classic out there. But P, I think he speaks more to, like, my crowd, which is, like, the skateboard alternative, hip-hop, but, like, you know, still, you know still fucking into rock bands type shit. Right, right. Yeah, P is like the leader of that. So I'm going to go P. Bob Marley, Jimi Hendrix. Bob Marley or Jimi Hendrix. I'm going to go both on that one.

Okay, let's go. I need to take a shot. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Cheers, cheers, cheers. I felt like you said it in Jamaican. I'm going to go both on that one. I felt like the Rastafari just came out of you.

You want to go back on the Feralier? Mm-mm. After we? After, yeah. Perfect. George Clinton or Willie Nelson? George Clinton. Yes.

Yeah, George Clinton. Have you ever met Willie Nelson? I have not met Willieie nelson i was gonna say i have but he rolled me a joint and i didn't get to smoke it but i'm gonna chop it up with willie willie what's he rolled you a joint you didn't get to smoke that's a long story i was at my album premiere uh my album release party in new york it was my first album black and yellow had just went number one. I was performing in New York. I sold out the venue. Snoop Dogg was doing a late night television set

across the street with Willie Nelson. He left across the street with Willie Nelson to come over across the street with me. He said, Willie said that he wanted to be here, but he couldn't because he old, but he rolled you this joint and he wanted you be here, but he couldn't because he old. But he rolled you this joint and he wanted you to smoke it. I went on stage. I got off stage. I said, where's my Willie Nelson joint? And one of my homies smoked it.

That would have been Boris. Boris would have done that to you. Nah, nah. Not if you know it's from Willie Nelson. You ain't supposed to do that. Damn. No, but he probably didn't know it's from Willie Nelson. Yeah, he's one of my close friends. Yeah, but.

Yeah, we're still really good friends. But he didn't know it's from Willie Nelson. His name rhymes with heavy goods. Oh, heavy. Damn it. You're not supposed to say. Why y'all saying, why y'all saying. Okay, so hold on.

Did he know it's from Willie Nelson, or he just thought it was a regular joint you asked him to hold? Who knows, man. Okay, okay. Did he say it was Beverly Nelson or he just thought it was a regular joint you asked him to hold? Who knows, man. Okay, okay. Did he say it was good? I mean, I don't think he was trying to do all that. At least it was fire, cuz. He don't do that.

He is so terrible. Hey, I know y'all got some more questions. I got a piss. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have two piss. Go to the bathroom. Go to the bathroom. Y'all got a cup I could pee in or something? No, no, right there. Go to the bathroom. I'm the interview. Go to the bathroom. Go ahead. Do your thing. Y'all got a cup I could pee in or something?

No, no. Right there. You can get up at any moment. At any moment. We got a full-fledged bathroom for you, sir. All right. Today's 420. And it's today.

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Get Uko. All right. This is if I can't answer this one, right? I get candy gun? Yeah. Oh, it's just because. I mean, right now we just wait for that, but it's going to happen. It's whatever.

Eventually it's happening. Yep. How high are Pineapple Express? How high? I had an answer for that, but it's going to happen. It's whatever. Eventually, it's happening. Yep. How high are Pineapple Express? How high? I had an answer for that one. You ever hung out with Seth Rogen? I have. We got a picture, me, him, and Snoop.

Smoked? Yeah, we did the cross joint. He rode the cross joint. I was about to say, there was a cross joint. Oh, I did see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the cross joint is for real.

It's not just in Pineapple Express. No, it's real. It's real. And he actually smokes weed, too. There's a lot of niggas who do weed movies who don't smoke fucking weed. Nah, you can tell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He smokes weed, so's real. It's real. And he actually smokes weed, too. There's a lot of niggas who do weed movies who don't smoke fucking weed. Nah, you can tell.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He smokes weed, so we good. NWA or Wu-Tang? Wu-Tang. All right, and this is the last one. Say the last one. Okay, the last one. Everyone thinks that this is a trick game, but this is the only time where we feel like it isn't a trick.

Love or respect? Loyalty or respect? Excuse respect? Loyalty or respect? Excuse me. Loyalty or respect? Go ahead. Hmm. I would take loyalty. Yeah.

Because you can respect somebody and not be loyal to them. Yeah, yeah. And I'll take loyalty. Like, if you don't necessarily respect me, I don't really give a fuck. Right. But if you're loyal to me, if I could, like, depend on you for something, that means a lot. Right.

I wouldn't have that in reverse order. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like that's the only time both is necessary. I feel like loyalty and respect goes hand in hand. So, like, that's me. But everybody don't respect everything. Yeah, you're right.

And, like, a lot of niggas lose, they might start off respecting you and they fucking lose respect for you. Or you might end up losing respect for somebody else based off of something they did.

But you ain't never going to cross that, man. Right. I respect that. So what you're saying is both. Go ahead. Hit him with the... Hit him with the...

What? Did we do this to DJ Khaled? He did not like it. He did not like it at all. He was like, I see this show all the time. They'll never do this. And that's not Khalifa. Oh!

Yeah! This is the handle, bro. Go pick it up. How you leave it on the floor to burn? Damn, bro. The handle is just cheap. All right, let's do it again. You said nothing happened, bro.

Yo, pure drink champs fashion. How come it look like it got drink in here? It happened. I was looking forward to that. Come on Let's start that one over Get another one Get another one

Yo, pure drink Transpash And yo, he's been holding That gun for your episode For your episode You should have tested the sturdiness of the handle You should have sw the sturdiness of the handle. You should have swung that motherfucker around.

Hold on. One more time. We got weed for it, right? As long as we got weed, we good. Yeah. We thought we had it planned right. Come on, guys. Sit up. My weed dots came through again, bro.

What's up? That was the Khalifa Kushner there. Thank you. That was the Khalifa cushion there. Thank you. That was the Khalifa cushion there. You just didn't want me to get smoked out. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, Kyle. Yeah, yo.

Yeah, fix it together. By the way, it's classic. We got it all on film. It's still classic. That people was going to be like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, bro. Nothing's happening. Nothing's happening. All right. It's still classic I'm going to tell all my fans Not to get on your line

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You got the two records? Like, if I... If they was to tell me these are the last... Some of the last records I want to hear in my life, these would be two of them. From what?

We about to play it right now. Oh, okay. We thought we had our shit together. Little Papito, do not have it together. Oh, that was like a timing thing. Okay, okay, okay. Oh, that's Papito. That's Little Papito over there.

Turn it up. Oh, okay, okay. Little Papi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here we go. Seven. We don't care who's. Hey, oh.

So what we go. Hey. That's El Scosa. Here we go's Hey, oh, show up, nigga Hey! That's how it's closer Here we go, hey, Liv One more time Hold on, stop, stop, stop, stop Let me tell you why I love this Because it was like I don't want to say you brung the youth out of Snoop

But you could tell you was rhyming And Snoop did not want to say you brung the youth out of Snoop, but you could tell you was rhyming, and Snoop did not want to be out rhymed by you. That's what it felt like? In a great way, in the most greatest way ever. That's exactly what was happening. Oh yeah? That's exactly what was happening, man.

When we made that song, I had moved out to LA. That was my first time staying there for an amount of time. And I was living at the W. And I just told myself. Yeah, in Hollywood. I just told myself, I was like, I never wanted to move out to L.A. until I had my money right.

I know how much money it costs to live out there. So I wasn't trying to be cracked. So I was like, I'm going to make sure my bread is right, and then I'm going to move out here. So I got my trying to be cracked. So I was like, I'm going to make sure my bread is right and then I'm going to move out here. So I got my money up. I was like, all right, I'm moving. So I lived in a hotel for like a week. And I was like, if I don't find a crib in a week,

I'm just going to be fucking homeless because I'm not going back home. And in that week, I met up with Snoop. We shot a couple videos. We did a video for That Good. We just talked about a bunch of shit and we just came up with a like a whole game plan and he was like yeah you gonna move right up the street from me this is my little apartment my little woop right here you're gonna stay up the street from me

we're gonna shoot a movie we're gonna do this we're gonna go on tour we're gonna lock it i'm like all right cool i'm your little homie i'm posted right up the street so that's when this song was created in that little amount of time and he had an apartment uh um right off of sunset and i would go down to the apartment and just pick out beats and like that i'll pick like five or six beats and he literally had a the booth in the closet so i'm walking in the apartment going in the room the engineer is there i'm walking through the bathroom there's like kitty litter there's like two cats in there I think it

was like Prince in or it was two names I forget what the name is like Ike and Tina or some shit yeah two cats and then you walk through the bathroom and then you're in his closet and it's Snoop Dogg's closet so it's like all types of like custom Snoop jerseys and Steelers shit and Lakers shit just like legendary shit I think fucking one of Don Juan's suits was in there and I'm like just laying verses in this closet and he would be in another room like just chilling smoking playing a game doing his thing but he would come in and hear my verses and I would leave and he would do his verses and I would come back and i would hear his shit so it was like we was going back and forth i would hear

his verse i'd be like oh okay all right go back and forth you know what i mean yeah like real shit and this particular record we came together because i had just signed to atlantic and uh he was like man these motherfuckers keep sending me this weak ass song he was like it ain't for me and he was like but i think together it'll work like for both of us he was like so that hook was on there already yeah yeah yeah that's bruno mars singing the hook oh shit yeah that's bruno mars but he had caught a little case around that time so they didn't want him being involved right i remember get high record because you know there's a little case or whatever. But Snoop didn't like the song for him individually

and I didn't like the song for me individually. The movie was in the making. It just sounded like too, like, you know what I mean? It sounded like too, it was like, it didn't sound right for both of us, like, individually. Y'all could be featured on it. But when we came together, it just made perfect

sense. Like, we recorded that shit in 15 minutes and just put that straight out and then went crazy man that's like one of the biggest songs they sing that all over the world they're singing in korea record they're singing in africa they're singing in india party is down yeah go to the air yeah you can sing that at the airport and then people would just start singing it with you yeah it's real tough yeah you know we can't look over what you just said that type of mentorship that snoop was willing to give you so dope like we need more of that in the culture yeah snoop's really the big homie man he's he's really the greatest of all time because i feel like a lot of people that their legacy is living

past them he's the living legend he's the one who's still here doing it doing it and nobody else in the rap game has a second coming of them like another one of them like you know what i mean and he was able to bring me into the game and people be like yo whiz is the snoop dog of our generation nobody else has that i believe Rakim has that with Nas. It's similar. Nah, Nas is Nas. Yeah, but some would argue that Nas was the second coming out. But did Rakim share the stage with Nas? Have they been on tour together? Do they have a movie together?

No. Snoop Dogg. All right, you win. And Snoop embraced it. All right, you win. You win. I'm going to take a shot for that. Yeah. I'm going to take a shot for that. I'm going to take a shot for that. I'm going to take a shot for that.

You got it ready? Man, this shit you doing. This shit went to the shop. That's why we got to stick to Uka. What? The anticipation of it when it was about to go down. It was so big. One slip. The anticipation of it when it was about to go down.

It was going. That was the crazy part. It was coming right now. It was there. It was so funny how we got Khaled. It was so funny how we got Khaled. We were trying to get you. We got to put that in slow-mo.

And then we got just looking for you. I want to see Khaled. They made a meme out of that or a GIF or something. Get off of it. He said, I see the show all the time. He was like this. They don't meme out of that or a gif or something to give off of it. He said, I see the show all the time. He was like this. They don't ever do this.

And he ran. He ran. He ran. He ran into the corner. Yeah, yeah. He don't smoke. All right, so one of my top,

I don't know when I say top 20 or top 50 or whatever. Songs that I would like to hear. I got two of them in my list. Oh, I think I know what this one is. Here's the second one.

Oh. It wasn't what I thought it was going to be. But to the anthem, though. Twice. We the boys! Mr. Lee, you a dancing-ass motherfucker over there. Yeah.

Man, you got plenty of anthems. I'm just, you know, picking those two for now. But what I'm saying is, I know you said it earlier, you always want to make global music. Yeah. But there's a difference between global music and anthem music. Yeah. Right?

So there's global music where it's just pretty much like i would say the record about paul walker that's like a to me a global but then you make in these anthem right and you make a global anthem i would say paul walker's a global anthem next but um i know you said it earlier But I just want to reiterate that When you make these anthems Are you going in and saying I'm making an anthem tonight?

That's crazy because No Yeah, I don't I like how you I'm going to take a shot With that one too Nah, for sure Nah, man

I didn't really know that I was making anthems for a minute. I thought that I was just kind of getting lucky with that shit. Right. And then I just started realizing,

like, oh, okay, these are those types of records that people fuck with. When I did Black and Yellow, that was just me representing my city. I love Pittsburgh so much. Everybody in Pittsburgh

loves the city so much. So it was just my way of letting everybody know where I'm from. And Steelers just happened to go to the freaking Super Bowl. That year, no, the same year. It was the same year that Black and Yellow was on the radio. You do got weed guards.

You do got weed guards. Hallelujah. So that happened with Black and Yellow. And then with Weed and Boys, I have really good taste in music. And I just know a hit when I hear one. And at this particular time in my career, I was working on my third album. And that could be like a tough spot for artists because you're trying to find your thing.

And you're trying to still do what's new. And you're just trying to figure out a bunch of things it's a lot with the label because they might be expecting they have other people coming in so it's a lot of competition and for me it's just always about like making the best music and being in that pocket right then and there and um i knew i needed a hit you know what i'm saying and i was just willing to work with with anybody that that was you know making good music at that time. When I did Black and Yellow, Stargate, they were making hit records at the time. So it was like, let's work with Stargate. And when I did Weedem Boys, Detail was on his way up.

He already had a bunch of hits and a lot of people that he was working with. But he was still, you know, seasoning and shifting and pivoting and doing a lot of different things. He was all over the place. So he was open to getting in the studio with me. And as soon as I heard the rough for We Them Boys, I was like, that's a hit. I'm like, this is a banger. And it was just one of them songs that I was really ready to go to war about and just be, you know,

stand up like, yo, this is the record right here. Like the label you saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Make sure the label like understands the message. It's still a dark sounding record when you hear it. But it's something that gets you rowdy. Yeah, it gets you rowdy. When we were in the studio making it,

like we were standing up on top of shit like, like any games in sports. When we went on a promo run for the club, we would just snatch the mic and just be like, hold up, hold up. So it just made us feel a certain type of way. And we knew that the world would feel that way as well. And I came up with the idea for the video. And that came off really well.

So it was just a really, really good moment for my career. Goddamn, make some noise. Man, hell yeah. Oh, yeah. And then Dallas Cowboys picked it up and made it like official merch and shit like that, too. Because the Cowboys, apparently, they them boys. So, yeah, they got shit in their yards that says Weedem Boys. They got Dallas Cowboys shirts and all that.

When they score touchdowns, they fucking scream in Weedem Boys. So it's like I got a Pittsburgh anthem and I got a Dallas anthem as well. Jerry Jones is cutting them checks. I mean, not necessarily a check, but it's good promotion though. And they let me go to the stadium and like, you know what I'm saying?

Eat some nachos and shit. It was cool. Nah, they're really, really cool about it. You know, it's good promotion. You guys fix that over there? We have literally a mechanic, a mechanic working on it now. I also heard you say somewhere that if you had a chance to do rolling papers over, you would have did something else?

No, that was like early in my career. I was like letting the criticism get to me. Yeah, yeah. I had felt that people were expecting one thing from my mixtape shit and then they got something from my album that they didn't

that they weren't ready for. And just me caring about people's reactions. That's what made me say that. But looking back, I don't give a fuck. That shit is legendary. Like I got plaques in my crib from more than half of that album,

which means people physically were buying that shit. And it was a really good exercise for me to get to where I'm at in my career now. And if I wouldn't have done that, it wouldn't have paved the way for know, paved the way for hits like, you know, Weed and Boys, Young, Wild and Free,

See You Again. And, you know, all the other platinum hits that, you know, people love me for. So I'm glad I did it. I'm glad I wrote the letter. But I don't feel like that today,

though, at all. You also were one of the first artists working with the guys at Rolling Loud. Yeah. I remember out here, the Fort Lauderdale, what's it, Revolution? Revolution Live, and they were doing their early Rolling Louds. They were just doing straight concerts. Uh-huh.

And you were one of the first artists working with them. Yeah, yeah. Did that translate? Did you, that relationship still intact? Yeah, definitely. We pioneered a lot of things, man, just by being available. I think me being one of the first rap acts doing festivals and just bigger headlining stages and things like that,

it opened up a lot of opportunities for people to bring that same attention to other artists as well or take their artists on tour or sell merch and do things like that. So it's really good to see like the whole show scene and the festival scene like budding and you know everybody you know eating off of that and and it's still the original homies from before yeah and there's cats like you know things that we did at south by southwest that are still going or you know reached their peak and we were able to see that through so it's really dope man do you prefer doing festivals or a show that's just you?

I like all of it. I love doing the festivals. I like doing the festivals because you get different types of music. Like, that's the only time that I'll be able to perform with, like, Elton John or some shit like that. You know what I mean? So it's really cool to do the festivals. And then when I'm on my tour, I'm able to, you know, go in with the production and just be more creative and things like that with my own vision and stuff like that so hey i get a i get a lot out of both that's dope hell yeah is there any place that you you can't go to because of your smoking habits dubai don't allow smoking

but it's not that i can't go there i just can't smoke while i'm there yeah yeah because i'm hearing that um they decriminalize it but I don't know what that means. But it's religious why they don't do it over there. Yeah, but I'm just saying. I hear that they're more lenient, but it's like still, you know, like having weed is one thing, but then like trafficking, being with traffickers,

it's like, it's a lot. Right. You know what I mean? It's not worth chancing it over there. Hell no. I remember Smackdown in the middle of, you know, people getting arrested It's a lot. Right. You know what I mean? It's not worth chancing it over there. Hell no. I remember Smackdown in the middle of, you know,

people getting arrested for weed. It was like Snoop had like the illest past. He would come to this one hotel in New York and for seven floors they would just let him

smoke whatever the fuck he wanted. And it's like, Snoop is different, man. That's what you do when you're a boss. He's different. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He is different. Yep. The fuck. Let me get some more of that, man. That's what you do when you're a boss. He's different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He is different. Yep. The fuck. Let me get some more of that, man. Mmm. I feel like we should have the gun popping. Yeah, man.

Come on, man. You let us down. Shoot me. Let's be honest. It's not going to work anymore. You guys are way too optimistic. Let's smoke this uka then. Yeah, are we smoking that uka? God damn it. I think I need a-

No, they refilled, they did a refill. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they repacked it. It's crazy because me listening to- You repacked it. Your music, I said to myself, man, I always wanted a record with Wiz and Pharrell. And I actually do have a remix with me, you, and Pharrell,

but it's not the real thing. What do you mean it's not the real thing? I mean, because I just felt like it was just a remix. But me listening to Wiz's music, I need that hook. What the hell are you going to do with that verse then?

No, we got you. We put it out. We put it out. We put it out. I want to go where me, you, Pharrell, get him high. Y'all need to go in the studio. And make a feel-good record. You got to spark it, though.

Oh, I'm going to spark. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I am sparked, sir. Yeah, you got to spark it. I want to. Yeah, that got to spark it. I want to, yeah. That would be hard. Because I want to do, well, maybe it's not my last album,

or maybe it's a Drink Champs full album, and I want to do guests that we had. That's easy. You know what I mean? Yeah. We had a studio up there. Well, we was. So are we going to be in the studio together,

or are you sending this? I would love that. We need to have everybody in the studio. I like being in the studio with Pharrell and I like being in the studio with you. Yes, yes. Thank you. And there's nothing like being in it with Pharrell because I was able to

be in the studio with him a couple times and Pharrell is just... He's working again? He's ill. He's funny too. He had me cracking up. He'll tell you what you need to do. Yeah, for sure. He'll tell you what you need to work on. Yeah, nah, for sure. How many times have you been in the studio with Rob? Maybe, I think we locked in for like three days when I was working on my second album. And then maybe like another time after that.

Okay. It was really good though. He made a beat right there on the spot. Yeah. He did a verse on there. Oh, wow. Yeah, because I sang my part and then I rapped my verse. And I was like, yo, P, let me get a verse on here real quick. And he went in there and rapped me a verse on there. Oh, wow. Yeah, because I sang my part, and then I rapped my verse. And I was like, yo, P, let me get a verse on here real quick.

And he went in there and rapped me a verse. I was like, oh, hell yeah. Just like that. Most people think people write his verses. He write that shit right there. He MC. Yeah, he did his verse. He showed up for the video as well.

Like, yeah, what the fuck? Yep. So what producer would you want to work with now that you have him? Dr. Dre. Dre is on the list. Dre. I would you want to work with now that you have it? Dr. Dre. Dre is on the list. I'm definitely going to work with Dre, but, um,

I want to work some more with, with Timbaland. Timbaland. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I want to fuck with Tim a little bit more. Um, Swiss beats,

Swiss beats. Yeah. I could see that. I could see that easy. Yeah. Me and Swiss. I could see that. Yeah.

Me and Swiss. I could see that. would you do a easy. Yeah, me and Swiss. I could see that. Yeah, me and Swiss. I could see that. Would you do a Versus? Not right now. Not right now? No. You think you got more years? Or why?

You feel that's for someone that's more your elder? Or you feel like it's catalog-wise you want to do more? I feel like catalog-wise I would want to do more i think i feel like catalog wise i would want to do more like just as a consumer when i watch verses i get happy when i hear like older songs that i didn't even know that they had anything to do with or just like hits that you know they might have been behind the scenes on and besides and shit yeah so it'd be cool to like bring that out i feel like a lot of my shit is still relevant so it's like not a not a real surprise like you know what i mean like it'll be cool to be like oh yeah this nigga does have a lot of bangers but i i want to be involved with a lot more different things that aren't just

wiz khalifa and then if i was to do a versus be like yeah and i wrote this play something in spanish like you know what i'm saying like you, that's more of a flex to me. Right, right. So, yeah. Have you done anything like with Reggaeton? Any artists? I do a ton of stuff, man. Bad Bunny will be your... Yeah, yeah.

What'd you say? Give me Bad Bunny together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, what's the name of Bad Bunny? I thought you called him a Bad Bunny. I was like,

what are you saying? I don't know. Don't, don't wait. Oh, where are I? Eh? Say it in English, sir. What did you just say? This is so disrespectful. ¿Qué te está diciendo, hermano?

Dímelo en español. I'll translate. Yeah, yeah. Tell him in Spanish. I understood him just fine. I heard exactly what he said. What did he say? I smoke A's.

That's why. Damn. Relax. I smoke A's. That's why. Oh, damn. Relax. I smoke A's. Yeah, exactly. So we spoke about the foot earlier. Do you think the foot... The foot.

The thing that comes back to me... You be kicking the shit out of them boxing. Them heavy bags. You be kicking the shit out of them... You said that's why my feet are dry? I'm asking. No. No, I didn't say dry.

I didn't say dry. You used the word dry. I said, you think that's the reason Why the feed is viral Is because you be Kicking the shit out Of some fast Cause I be looking at you You don't even be playing

I'm like oh What are you training in Muay Thai Yeah I do Muay Thai I do Muay Thai Jiu Jitsu Taekwondo Oh you a badass

It's mixed martial arts It's MMA So it's everything A nigga might throw you On the ground A nigga might elbow you A nigga might Grab your ankle All that shit Basically you don you. A nigga might grab your ankle.

All that shit. Basically, you don't fuck a nigga up with your big toe. No, I mean, you know. Let's just throw it out there. I train. It's a sport. I'm in shape. You use your feet.

Yes. Ay-ah! He said you chalk up your foot to kick. No, I didn't say that. That's a good one, though. I like to jump. I mean, you know. Nah. I think it's just from lack of moisture. That's all good one though I like the joke I mean you know Nah

I think it's just from like Lack of moisture That's all Okay Yeah Alright But you do be kicking this shit out the back Yeah I train five days a week

At a gym called Unbreakable I've been I've been training for about Six years consistently now I do weight training And And you know The The Martial arts years consistently now. I do weight training and the martial arts end of it as well.

So, yeah. Only UFC niggas go there. Well, UFC is a brand. MMA is martial arts. It's the art. And training and all those practices. Karate is a part of it. And any martial art. You mix them up.

Exactly. Exactly. Don't embarrass us this time. Oh, you ready? Don't lose no more Khalifa cuts. Yo, hold that motherfucker. You're going to kick me with that. Glue that shit to your head.

Rip it. He said I'm not going to kick you. You said I'm going to kick him? All right. Yeah! You said I'm going to kick him? All right. Hey! Oh! You scared him again. He's not a dragon. Oh, man.

That's that Kaleem. I'm good. I'm good. I got it. I got it. I got it. I'm good. All right.

Look. You can't smoke it. I'm getting high. Look. You're smoking. Definitely smoking, bro. Don't smoke right now. Oh, shit. That's it. I'm in. Happy 420.

Give it to him, man. That's a good amic weed. I can kick you. Hell yeah no, no. That's a good ass weed. Dude, I fucking kick you. Hell yeah. Holy shit. That was awesome. Why am I the only one coughing here? Yeah, right?

I don't even smoke. You're high. I can see it in your eyes. You just got high. And he's red as shit. His name just got high like this. That was tight. Yes.

He's fucking high, bro. I'm about to have one of these Mike Tyson bites. Oh, yes. That's big He's fucking hot, bro. I ain't gonna lie. I'm about to have one of these Mike Tyson bites. Oh, yes. That's big up to Mike Tyson, bro. Eat a fucking ear, dog. Want that crazy smoke? I'm set up here.

I almost said it. Who want that crazy smokes? Eat a ear, man. Oh, shit. So, Kusha Orange Juice, right? Yeah. Order me a pizza, please. Such a unique sound.

How did you capture that sound? Man, it was like really just living on the road and being a young man and just rapping about my excursions as a young player. And it was real fun, man. It was a good time. I met Cur currency during that time and we kind of came up with our well not kind of but we really strategically came up with our own style and our own sound and we actually called it karate and we were watching a lot of we were watching a lot of anime and samurais and just you know what i'm saying just crazy ass shit and we

just called it there you go we just called our karate. Like just how we would kick it and how we would do shit. And the Kush and Orange Juice name came from my homie Jake in Toronto. So I went up to Toronto for a couple days and I was recording the last couple pieces of How Fly, which is the mixtape that I did with Currency. But I was also working on Cushion Orange Juice. Everything that I would say was like,

wake and bake. We would wake, we would bake, and we would do this. And then just randomly, he was like, man, your laptop smells like Cushion Orange Juice. And I was like, damn, bro. Your laptop? Yeah, yeah. And I was like, damn, bro, you don't understand. That's my whole life right there. It just felt to me like a different way to say wake and bake, like Cushion Orange Juice. and i was able to wrap the music around that and um you know just texture everything to

to really just describe what we were going through at that time and i shout out to cardo shout out to sledger and shout out to germ edan everybody who produced on that album nesby phipps um uh big crit you know everybody big chrism yeah everybody who had beats or verses on that album, man. Like, it was legendary for us. And not only that, it was like, you know, most hip-hop albums have skits. That's the one thing I noticed about it is the skits. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whose idea was it to...

That was my idea. Okay. Yeah, I came up from that era Where you know Every classic album Had skits on it Like The Chronic Or you know Something that tied

All the songs together Equimini Or fucking You know Every dope album Has skits on it So I just wanted to do it In my own little way

And of course I came up listening to Snoop So they had You know Doggy style radio Right And all of that shit so i just made up my own little radio station w-e-e-d and made my own little you know host of it and

we just went with it i did a bunch of mixtapes before cushion orange juice i had like seven mixtapes before that was crazy yeah i had like seven projects before that where i had also you know done the same concept, but like everybody knows, it takes a minute for it to catch on. And especially at that time, I had the internet to help me out. Twitter was brand new, so I was just fucking abusing that.

And YouTube, I was just uploading everything and making it a movie or making it a post or a vlog. And people were just following my whole thing on Twitter. So when that album came out, it was really interactive for the fans as well. And it was one of the first things to really use the internet like that too. So it was, it was big. You feel like you was one of the first viral artists?

Like internet viral. Internet viral. Right, right. Which is what, I mean, that's what viral would be. No,

I would say Soulja Boy is the first viral. Yeah, yeah. I would say Soulja Boy. My bad Soulja Boy. Yeah, yeah. I would say that that I don't want no smoke with Soulja Boy yeah yeah no but that's it's true though like he really was like the first viral I think he literally got his record deal off no absolutely because he was hustling he was like in his house yeah and people heard his music from him promoting it and before it was like out of the trunk and the internet became the new

trunk yeah yeah so I would say Soulja Boy was the first which went hand in hand with the ringtone the beginning of that ringtone era yeah the ringtone era

was one thing too because yeah for sure that was a big thing over at Warner was like does it got a ringtone so that was all the labels

ringtone ringtone yeah yeah hell yeah oh man I didn't know I didn't know. Yeah, yep, for sure.

You were saying something? We interrupted you. No. Yeah, go for it, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That fucking cannon gun got you, bro. Yeah, I got mad questions. Yes, it does.

Yes, it does. Oh, Roll Up, that song. Yeah. Where was you at? What was you doing? Did you roll up? Did I roll up? That's your part of the question.

How you just came up with that? So that was an interesting part of my career because I had written Black and Yellow Maybe like eight months before But nobody really believed in Black and Yellow So So Black and Yellow was out eight months And it wasn't reacting? No, they didn't believe in it before I put it out Oh, right, coming out

Yeah, yeah, yeah Before we dropped it It was about four months before it dropped So that was the period where nobody believed in it. And that was the period of them, like, the label asking me to record another single.

And I'm like, nah, I got a single. It's Black and Yellow. It's Black and Yellow. It's Black and Yellow. So we put Black and Yellow out in the fall. That was Atlantic?

Yeah, it was Atlantic. I don't want to throw anybody on the bus, make it seem like they're bad. I'm just saying, because I remember working these records through these labels.

Yeah, exactly. I don't want to make it seem... I don't want to make it seem like anybody's bad at their job, but you know what I'm saying? They know the story. They'll tell the story, too. The label didn't believe in Black and Yellow. We put Black and Yellow out and went number one,

so they're like, fuck, we need another song. Immediately, like right now, get on the plane, get back in the studio with the same producers and do what you did the first time. I was like, all right, cool. Fuck it. So they played me a couple beats. I didn't you know fuck with any of them i was like this one sounds cool and i'm gonna do it about this instead you know i did a fucking you know a sports anthem i was like let me soften it up a little bit but i'm on my weed shit so let me like troll the world and like have it sound friendly, but be talking about fucking weed at the same time.

And I wrote Roll Up, and they went with it, and we shot the video. Cassie was in the video. Shout out to Cassie. And that was another platinum record for me right out the gate. Because that was right on the verge of weed kind of being untaboo at this time. Yeah. No, no. It was still a thing. It was being untaboo at this time. Yeah. No, no, it was still a thing. It was still a taboo at this time?

Yeah, yeah, it was still a thing, especially me coming from the blog or mixtape era. People weren't used to me making those types of songs, but I always knew, yeah, I'm going to make bigger records that are going to appeal to everybody, but I'm going to just do it in my own way. Right. So that was my way of making a crossover record, but still making it weed friendly. That's genius, man. Yeah, yeah.

You just make some noise for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And just to go back on not throwing the labels under the bus, just to be fair to these marketing departments, this was the era where the internet was so new in terms of how people were promoting music that the labels were still on the old guard

of just radio promotion and the old school way that that's why they had like they they they they didn't catch up quick enough you know saying they were all like kind of behind on that yeah they didn't understand that we were in control of our fan base right they thought that they knew better than we did i'm like look i could say fuck this shit uh blah blah blah and they're gonna buy it like they love me they don't care what the fuck i'm saying like labels hadn't seen that before they were used to building the artist and the machine is still the machine back then there was no digital sales it was all like physical yeah so if i'm selling a million records,

these is a million motherfuckers who's going to buy this shit. So it was a different time back then. So it was a lot more on the line back then. And they controlled the publicity. You could go straight to the blogger, straight to the internet. And I think they were still catching up to that. It was just a disconnect.

They had to come together. But would you agree, once y'all artists started to take control like that, your generation is probably that generation that started to take control. Absolutely. After that generation is where they introduced the 360 deal. The 360 started before that. Yeah, but what I mean is they reintroduced it.

Because 360 was trying to grab your show money. Everything. It was everything. But I'm saying it wasn't having to do with internet. It was just grabbing your show money. So they already was everything. But I'm saying, it wasn't having to do with internet. It was just grabbing your show money. So they already started. Like you said,

they already... Yeah, I believe it was already started, but I believe after these artists start to... Be self-contained. Yeah, self-contained.

I believe that's where it reintroduced itself. Yeah, I feel like the 360 started to just become more of what makes sense because they wanted everything together and they were losing money they were losing a lot of money because cds weren't they've seen the the the control

that an artist would have and it's a way to leverage it more to be like yo just work with us because you'll end up making more money right you'll give us this percentage but you're gonna make a shit ton more than you would just buy yourself right and that's just them you know up in their game like like we're forgetting the napster era like the era of free downloads yeah and bootlegging on the on the digital level yeah like i preferred when the africans had my cds when i came in so they were selling my shit i preferred that more different stuff Started becoming valuable For an artist Like

Merch wasn't that valuable For an artist Before I came in the game But You know You start seeing Taylor gang this Taylor gang that

They're like Fuck we need a piece of that Like You know what I mean So that starts to get Wrapped into 360 deals And then You start talking about

Like Monetizing niggas Social media And all of that Other shit And it just gets real crazy. That didn't even exist when I was there. But, yeah, there's a lot of different reasons why they do it

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I'm just not that big of a machine. I can't follow through of what a 360 deal entails. You got to provide, help them get shows. Yeah, yeah. I mean, why I can't help you get shows and shit like that? That's cool, but it's like, I can't go to radio and be like, yo, play this song. Fuck all of those other artists, play this song. Because that's cool but it's like you know i can't go to radio and be like yo play play this song like fuck all of those other artists play this song because that's what they do like other i mean like labels you know what i'm saying like if you're a priority artist you're going to get

that type of treatment that's the problem with the 360 deal and only a certain small percentage become those priority artists and everybody else is stuck they're not sure and you're only a priority for a certain amount of time. Right. Don't last forever. They got other priorities. Where's no shit? I love that. Where's no shit? Holy shit.

But it ain't no fun. The song? Yeah. Girl Talk? Yep. Smoke Dizzle? Yep. Okay, cool. Shout out Smoke Dizzo. Yeah, hell yeah. No, I thought Big Crit was on there. Big Crit is on there.

Okay, all right, cool. I just didn't get the name. Okay, all right. Good, good. Okay. Yeah, yep. Tell us about that. I was fucking loaded.

Girl Talk called me to the studio. It was like, we're making an album, bro. It's got three of your best friends or two of your best friends on there. Just get in the studio. Just start making jams, yo. three of your best friends or two of your best friends on there just get in the studio just start making jams yo like like old times me and dizzy we came up you know mixtape days blog era yeah smoke smoke there's a crit took him on our first tours together you know we really really just came up out the mud together so when it comes to getting in the studio with them dudes it's automatic like

we just coming up with ideas sometimes smoke will start it sometimes cradles do the hook sometimes i'll come in with the hook sometimes i'll have a verse like it just nobody's stepping on nobody's toes hella laughs and uh girl talkers from pittsburgh he's a big dj um just in the scene he's been in the scene for a minute and um he's a producer as well so that was just our opportunity to just mix everything up and um you know have something great for the fans good hell yeah me and you got like something similar but i feel like yours is uh as bigger whenever someone passes away uh here like for my crews i I made a record called Sometimes, right? Which is about my father.

But See You Again is like the bigger version of that to me. Yeah. Right? Thanks. It's up there with, you know, what's the Puff Daddy shit? I'm Missing You and Bone Thugs. Yeah, Crossroads. Crossroads.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's one of my favorite songs ever. Yeah, that's a big record. You know, I want to be as careful as I can because we all know it's about Paul Walker, correct? Right. So, we know

how he passed away or whatever, but what made you want to create that type of record? I was brought into that. For Fast and Furious soundtrack? Yeah, for the Fast and Furious soundtrack. Kevin Weaver, right? Shout out to Kevin Weaver, man. Did me a huge solid.

They were coming up with the soundtrack. I had done one of the Fast and Furious soundtracks before. So you met Paul Walker? No, I didn't meet Paul Walker. No. Excuse me. I had done one of the Fast and Furious soundtracks, the movie before this one. I think it was on, this one was on 9.

See You Again was on 9. So I think I did a song on Fast 8. And it performed really well. So they had the see you again song um the situation had happened right it had happened they filmed the movie and he was in a lot of the movie but then the situation happened mid filming the movie so like the last scene of the movie, they had planned it. They were like, this is the song that's going to play in the last scene of this movie. Here you go, buddy. Write it.

I was like, damn. That's not a lot of shit. So they give you the skeleton under the beat? The hook was already there. Charlie was singing the hook. And the idea behind the song was to have a lot of different artists on it. So there was a little Wayne verse. I think they had Chris Brown cut the hook

as well. They had a lot of different artists on the song. It just went through a trimming and a shaving phase and it just ended up being my verse on there with Charlie's hook. And they were like, we like this. It paints a perfect picture. You really tapped in

because you write another verse for it. I'm picture, like you really tapped in, because you write another verse for it. I'm like, totally. So we all got in the studio, I sat there and wrote my verse, and we put the song out, and the first week it performed well, the video comes out, and then it just goes to number one, and it stayed at number one for, I think, 13 or 14 weeks. And yeah, that was like my biggest record, and hell yeah, it was just a huge, huge fucking moment, yo. Because that's crazy that you have some of the most beautifulest records. Yeah. And then you got one record that's like, it makes everyone cry.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, it's a blessing. A lot of people don't know, I lost my brother as well. And at that time, I knew he was going to pass because he passed from cancer and he decided not to get treatment. And so, yeah, I was dealing with that as well. So I was able to, you know, write real feelings. It wasn't just like I was just talking about. You tapped into that.

You know what I'm saying? So there's real feelings in that song. And that's why people are able to connect with it because, you know, that's going to last forever. Like, you know, know sadly death is a part of life it's fucking guaranteed and you know people die every day those guaranteed you know what i'm saying people lose something or there's just hard shit to hold on to in the song it can help you get through it it can help you deal with it it can help you you know what i'm saying remember that shit so it's a it's a blessing more than anything to be able to be a part of those

moments in people's lives yeah that's dope yeah yeah then how about um mac miller you know i know remember that shit. So it's a blessing more than anything to be able to be a part of those moments in people's lives. Yeah, that's dope. Yeah, yup. Then how about Mac Miller? You know, I know you guys had a... Oh, rest in peace.

Yeah, yeah, rest in peace. Rest in peace, Paul Walker. But you want to speak about anything, like, with Mac Miller and you guys' relationship? Yeah, Mac was a really good friend of mine.

Super talented. Yeah, he was hella talented. Man, hella talented. Represented Pittsburgh. I want to say he's from Pittsburgh. Yeah, he was hella talented. Man, hella talented. Represented Pittsburgh. I was going to say he's from Pittsburgh. Yeah, represented the bird tremendously and just carved his own way. You know what I'm saying? He came up at a time where everything was still finding directions, so it was like you

could be this or you could be that, but he made his own way. And the way that his fans respect him and love him and people cherish his music is beautiful, man, the way that they keep him alive and keep him going. And it's super sad that what happened to him and what it represented. Because I was talking to one of my homies the other day, and he was just saying how

for a whole era of people, Mack spoke to, you know what I'm saying? So like losing him, it's kind of like a lesson to them, but it's also like really sad that that's the way that they had to learn that. Right. Where did you and Mack Miller meet? He's younger than me, he went to my high school,

but I didn't actually meet him. Yeah, same high school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't actually meet him in high school. I met him at the studio just like pulling up. I would be there with my homies or I would go away for a tour and I would come back and they would be in the front room making their little joints or shooting videos or just running around the city. Like, you know what I'm saying? They kind of made a name for themselves. And that's how I got on to them.

Was there ever any kind of competition being from the city? No, no. At all? No, I think it's always about embracing. Especially the people who are coming up after you. You have to embrace them and kind of just show them the right thing to do or how to do it or what a good example of that looks like. And then they're able to take it on their own and define it for what they want it to be. But to compete with them,

like, that's not the way. It's like, hell no. Never that. Hell no. Now, recently, me and you spoke offline because we were both bringing our kids

to goddamn WrestleMania. That was dope. Did you end up going? I did not go. Damn, why didn't you go? That's where you went. No, I went. One of kids, got them there and everything. Oh, the kids went though.

Yeah, the kids went. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then I seen you there. I seen you there. Right. Are you a wrestling fan? Yeah, I am.

Put us on. Snoop was in there, right? Yeah, Snoop was actually. I ain't gonna lie. Yeah, Snoop went crazy. Yeah, yeah, Snoop was in there. Yeah? Yeah, Snoop was actually. I ain't going to lie. Yeah, Snoop went crazy. Yeah, yeah. Snoop was in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shit.

I used to watch. Well, I watched wrestling before it was WWE. I watched. WWE. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I was a kid, I was into it. Yeah, so I was like Stone Cold. The Hulk Hogan era.

The Roddy Roddy Piper era. That's my era. I'm a little younger than that. That's my era. Not that old. I'm like Undertaker, Shawn Michaels. Yeah, that. That's my era. No, no, no, not that old. I'm under the giant. That's my era. I'm like Undertaker, Shawn Michaels. That's after me.

Shawn Michaels. Yeah. Bret Hart. Bret Hart. Okay. Nation of Domination. That's after me. I'm growing up in the 80s.

Dude love. Oh, yeah. Sting. Sting. What was the- Ric Flair. Ric Flair. Ric Flair.

Yeah, NWO. Yeah. Ric Flair. Ric Flair's onelair Yeah NWO Yeah Rick Flair Rick Flair's one of the oldest But he came back He came back He did come back

He came back He's a super legend Rick Flair out here Smoking blunts with Mike Tyson He's a super legend There was hell in it There's hell in it He was before WWF

Rick Flair He was in the original Wrestling shit D-Generation Lemon drinking Private Jack You're like Yeah

That's some rapper shit Right there Rick Flair He was like No Rick Flair Rolex wearing, limo drinking, private jet. That's some rapper shit right there, Ric Flair. He was like, Rolex wearing, limo driving, private jet flying. I was like, what? That's bars. You know where I seen Ric Flair? At Insane Cloud Posse at the Gathering. You ever played at the Gathering of the Juggalos?

No, I haven't. Yo, that shit is wild. I bet that shit's insane. And he went on stage. I don't know. I think he was hosting. What did he say? Woo! Yeah, but then, you know, out there, the Juggalos, they throw, I don't know what that bottle of,

it's like soda, these big-ass soda bottles. Yeah, we don't like it. What it's called out there. I don't know either. Where are they from? They're from Detroit, right? They're from Detroit, yeah. So they throw these big-ass bottles at you, but that's out of love.

Out of love, yeah. But Ric Flair came back. He's like, what the fuck is this? What the fuck is this? Throwing shit at me? I didn't come here for this. I was like, oh shit, that's Ric Flair. He was pissing the motherfuckers off.

That's my Ric Flair story. They didn't want him. Wiz, let me ask you. You think the wrestlers were on cocaine? Do I think the wrestlers were on cocaine? Do I think the wrestlers were on cocaine? I don't think. I've pretty much heard. I know.

He said something going on. They wasn't smoking. When you go on, woo! That's not marijuana. That might have been a part of the, you have to do cocaine. No, that's so funny. They didn't know the long-term effects of it back then. They were still in the middle of the experiment.

Yeah. Right. Yeah, yep. Nah, that's some fun shit, man. I'm going to drink. I'm taking a piss. Go ahead. Get off.

Shit. You taking one? No, you good. I got a couple more. Ooh. Ooh. Go for it. With the sample, the trail.

What's the sample? What's the name of the sample? It's... Come on, come on, pull it up. Empire of the Sun? Yes, Empire of the Sun. No, no, I got it as... It's the thrill.

Walking of the dream. Walking on the dream. Walking on dream walking on the dream yeah empire the son is the group oh there you see you see you telling me he's showing me from australia they hard so you sampled this this record yeah now for those that don't know this is interpretation is different right interpretation is where you can do someone's record over yeah I don't know

and not pay them no interpolation is where you like yeah replay it replay it there you go there's like certain notes that are different uh huh

but this was like a whole flip so what happened with this was um with the thrill in particular this was just like the mixtape era. And I went to a party, and I was in Indiana, I think. And I had chilled with the guy who brought me out there. I was at a college campus. And I hung out with him the whole day.

He was so cool. He took me shopping. We did the show. He was so cool. He took me shopping. We did the show. He was so professional. And as soon as the show was over, he started doing tons of coke. And everybody in the room was doing cocaine. I was like, what the fuck happened?

Y'all were fucking professional as hell earlier. I'm just smoking weed. And everybody in the room is doing cocaine. I wasn't ready. And the Empire of the sun song came on and this dude was coked out of his mind not the promoter but he was too but look he had a regular collared shirt on like yours damn and when he started doing the coke he flipped his collar up so yeah that's who he turned into when he did it. Yeah, exactly. So he looked at me, he was like, bro, he was like, if you rap over this song, you'll be the fucking man. And he was right, dawg.

He was fucking right. I went home, I rapped over that shit, dawg. I just took the beat and looped it, like, right at the beginning. I just looped the part that I wanted because they didn't have the instrumental. And I just put that shit out. Like, that was back in the day before you would get like sued you know I mean they wasn't really looking at this internet kid right you know blah blah blah but fast forward I started doing hella shows off of that shit and they were like damn you're making money off of our record so they

like made up this whole little rule where it was like if you sample certain records you can't perform them unless you get clearance from the artist blah blah blah that's another thing because you're technically making money without clearing the record i was making millions of fucking dollars traveling the world performing this song and they're sitting at home like that's our song like it's damn it's damn they're bigger than our record like what the fuck we haven't even performed our song at that level so eventually they just had to break bread that was like look we'll just had to break bread. They was like, look, we'll just fucking make your version, whatever your name of your song is, that'll be your version. And then we'll have our version. It's basically the same song, but I got my version and they got their

version. Yeah. Yup. I'm not going to lie to you. Keep the collar flipped up, dog. Yeah. I thought I heard it all. Man. Yo, that is crazy. Yeah, because, no, he was saying how he sampled this record. I don't know if you remember, but L.A., L.A. and New York, New York, we had to give 100% rights to the Sugarhill. As soon as they sued us, we just said, yes, we did sample you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We record.

Yes, here you go. We sampled it. With yes, we did sample you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're caught. Yes, here you go. We sampled it. With them, they worked with you. Yeah, hell yeah. Well, you know you could do that. What? You could negotiate those situations. What happens is most of the time, the artists don't ever even ask.

Yeah. And then after the fact, the publishers are coming and grabbing their stuff. Right. So if you were to anticipate that situation, you could go and negotiate with the estate or with the artists and whatever. And usually they're going to be probably cool about it. It works in everybody's favor when they are cool about it. Because they start seeing how much money they could make, they'd be like, oh, all right, never mind. Let me just chill. Nobody wants to go to court and do all that crazy shit after the fact.

And then especially with digital sales, they backdate everything. So that song was streaming for like 10 years. So all of the streams from 10 years get brought up now. So they're about to get a fat-ass check from all of the shit that it already did just for signing the paperwork. Yeah, for sure. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, hell yeah. Just for signing the paperwork.

Just for being like, all right, we cool with it. Jesus. Yeah, for sure. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, hell yeah. Just for signing the paperwork. Just for being like, all right, we cool with it. Jesus. Yeah, yep. This is disease Louise, Papa Cheese. So, oh, fuck. Because I was going to go on. We talked about producers you would work with,

but what about straight MCs you want to collaborate with? Or would you ever do a, actually, never mind the collab, would you ever do a joint album with someone, and who would it be? A joint album? Well, who would it be a joint album with currency yeah yeah currency i'm down to do a joint album with anybody man like i feel like bless you i feel like anybody who i get in the room with and vibe with for like four days we end up making like a little mini album anyway

uh me and cuddy been working back and forth uh On some stuff I could see us like You know Continuing our flow Cause it's very very natural And the shit that we got is fucking heat So yeah We don't Yeah why stop that You and Cudi would be crazy

Yeah yeah yeah That would be fun I mean I think that's one of the illest things About you is you're melodic Yeah thank you You You know, when you like, you could rap, rap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then you could also get into this melodic stage. Yeah, for sure. And I

think that's what Cudi is, too. Would you guys give that, the beginnings of that melodic in rappers to Bone Thugs-N-Harmony? 100%. He's from Ohio. I'm from Pittsburgh. Definitely Bone Thugs-N-Harmony. 100%. He's from Ohio. I'm from Pittsburgh. Definitely Bone Thugs-N-Harmony.

100%. Because I don't think we really heard that much until then. Yeah, no. That's my influence. Right. For sure. Hell yeah.

It was a time, right? Where I was just like in rat purgatory. You know what that means? Yeah. I'm just in between. Just chilling. And I went to LA.

Yep. And I went to Alchemist's house. Shout out Alchemist. Such a legend. We need you on. Alchemist was like, man, come outside. You know, I was like, if people don't know what purgatory is, it's a state where you're not really-

Between heaven and hell. Between heaven and hell, but you're not really like- You're just existing. Yeah, I'm just existing. It's not a fun place to serve. Alchemist said to me, and Kid Cudi had a show. Alchemist said to me, and Kid Cudi had a show. Alchemist said to me, come out. This is when Kid Cudi is, you know.

So I'm like, I'm not going to the shows. Those type of people don't like me. You said that? Yeah, that's what I thought. That's what you thought. That's what I thought. Wiz Kayafa doesn't like you. A.K. Kayafa.

You got to do it. You got to speaka. Kayafa you gotta do you gotta do you gotta do Kayafa listen listen by the way I brought it up for him to take the shots back at me

I want him up to get it back at me but anyway you gotta do all your drops for Kayafa so anyway so I told Alchemist I was like

nah he's like yo like you had something to do with putting on Pharrell Pharrell is like the godfather of this like hipster scene. I didn't really know what. I don't want to call it hipsters.

I said that. Well, it's fine. It's not cool. It's not racist. It's not racist. All right. It's not derogatory. It's cool, bro.

So I remember going to this Kid Cudi concert. Not a concert. It was a show in L.A. Somewhere and I walked in and I'm trying to be incognito. I got a ski hat on in LA a ski hat a ski hat yeah like a giant ski hat like they like they didn't know I was from New York you know I'm saying I sit there and Kid Cudi see me on stage was like Nori come up here and it was crazy because I didn't realize Alchemist had already told told him he's bringing me there

to hear my records and when I perform for these kids and I was just like, I didn't know that my records resonated with them. Yeah. Because, and it was like. You even got a TikTok song now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's cool. Yeah, it's pretty cool. It still resonates.

Yeah, yeah. But that wasn't the same time We did the Merz show Was it? That was actually The Merz show That Alchemist was DJing for you No no Actually the Merz show

That's the reason why I came back to Alchemist Because Alchemist That was two weeks before Right So it was like Something like this Look this shows you

How dope Alchemist is How humble he is He's such a legend And he still loves you so much He's going to come Spin for you Just to do it I wasn't

I wasn't What is that shit called? Confident. You know, like I said, in Purgatory, there come a time where I don't give a fuck how much music you made, I don't care how much platinum you went, how much records you went for Royal May, they're just going to get tired of you.

That's just how this music business is. And then you have to find something to transition to something else. But in that moment, I just wasn't confident. And Alchemist was the one. And Cause of Kid Cudi. I bring that up on Cause of Kid Cudi.

Sweet, man. Yes, yes. Goddamn. Goddamn. Quick story. Shout out to Cudi. So what do you like more? Shout out to you for getting your swagger back. That's right.

What do you like more? Making the record or performing the record? I don't like either one more or less. No, no. Damn. I don't like either one Jesus More or less No Damn I don't like More or less

I'll take a shot I'll take a shot I'll take a shot Nah I love creating it Cause it's so fun To just have this idea That doesn't exist And to make it real

Right And I love performing it Cause you're doing the same thing You're making people Believe in some shit Right That you create That only you You know what i'm saying and then it starts to like uh it starts to like develop into this like experiment where it's like i'm playing with

people where it's like i'm in the studio like i i know they're gonna go crazy for this and then they actually do i'm like what the like it works like you know what i'm like what the fuck like it works like you know what i mean i just made this shit it's like magic like you know what i'm saying it's fun as hell it's so fun i get a kick out of that shit and you know i feel like the people they get a sense of that too they're like this dude is having a good time with us like you know what i mean so um i i enjoy both i enjoyed experience of both i love performing brand new records. I love performing hits, songs that are out for freaking 10, 12, 13 years. I love doing all that shit, yo. Thank you.

I'm going to take a shot, but then I got to ask you about that brand new record shit. Yeah, hell yeah. Get that uka in. Brand new records are the toughest thing to perform. So where are you saying You like to perform this at In like intimate situations Nah He's at anywhere

It feels like a festival I perform a brand new record At a festival nigga Get the fuck out of here Three verses Let's go Y'all gonna listen To this whole song

That's what music is man It's making people believe Are you looking For something specific When you do that new record To that audience Are you I know

If I If I make this song In a room And it's just me know if I, if I make this song in a room and it's just me and if I can make it go crazy, I know a million people or however many people, I'm imagining a million.

It's probably 50,000, 60 or whatever. I know I can make y'all go crazy if I can make a room full of nobody go crazy. Like, you know what I'm saying? I can feel that same energy.

But you in the studio, that's your homies though Nah my homies ain't there It's just me Oh Yeah yeah yeah I'm not talking to no niggas Like you know what I'm saying

I'm mapping this shit out in my head Like what feels good And what doesn't What would embarrass me If I was in front of A hundred thousand people That shit is still embarrassing If I'm sitting there by myself

Right right You dig what I'm saying I don't gotta go out there You feel like you got a good gauge of it while you're listening to it. I know I do. I got a great taste. I got great timing. I'm confident in all of that shit. Like I said, I'm just experimenting on people, but I

know I'm coming up with the fucking game plan right then and there. So if I say it in a song or if I map it out for the song to lead up into this, you're going to do a certain thing when it comes on. I'm just walking you into it.'re going to do a certain thing when it comes on i'm just walking you into it so when i do it on stage i'm just doing what i already knew was going to happen i'm just trying it out on y'all and it works and it's like okay all right cool you know what i'm saying yeah hell yeah but that's what music is that's why i enjoy different genres

of music a lot of people get so caught up on like listening to their favorite rap song or their most nostalgic song they don't put on shit that they never heard before and they don't understand how to you know go through the music and learn the sequencing and why you actually like a song or why you know the lyrics to a song and that's why country music and pop music is so you know I mean easy to catch on to because they write the lyrics to where you can learn the hook and the pre-hook as you're listening to it So before the song is even over, you know the whole motherfucking song You might want to hear that bitch again

Or by the time you hear it again, you know how to sing it You know what I'm saying? And that's what a great performance is To me, if I could show up and I don't even know the band or know the lyrics to the song, and I end up liking it, end up singing it, that's a great song. You dig what I'm saying? And that's what I bring with my music. That's what I bring with my performance.

And that's why I'm so confident to perform a song that nobody ever heard for the first time in front of 50,000. Goddamn, make some noise. Yeah, yeah. What country that you performed at were you most surprised at? China. Yeah, yeah. What country that you performed at were you most surprised at? China. China.

Yeah. What part of China you went to? Nigga, China, China. Yeah, that part of China. You was in China. They ain't speaking no English over there. They was singing that shit, dog. That must have been a sea of people.

Because I can't sing in Chinese. Well, I don't know. Maybe you do. i can't sing in chinese well i don't know maybe i'm like damn like maybe i should learn one of y'all songs the way y'all singing my shit which would be the ill thing for a lot of artists to do yeah because it made me think we don't ever do that for them bro we're so american the country we're just like english yeah but we don't speak none of their languages no we don't even try you don't speak none of their languages. Fuck no, we don't even try. You don't speak English? We mad. We don't speak English in this song?

Yeah, hell no. No sleep. What's up? Did you get no sleep making that record? Ha! That was a crazy time too Pretty much the whole time I did rolling papers

I was just partying my ass off Right And yeah so I got in the studio With Benny Blanco He was cool as hell At the time he wasn't I don't even think

He was wearing shoes I wanted to say Not sneakers But like I don't think he was wearing Shoes at all No socks either. Just toes out.

I fucked with it heavy. It was cool. He taught you. Nah. If I would have learned from him, I would have moisturized my damn toes before I put them out. Over toe G. Yeah. I like that.

So, yeah. Nah, he's super cool. We vibed as soon as we met each other. And that was another song that was more crossover because the beat kind of sounded like alternative rock and roll to me. But I like that type of shit. That's what I came up on. So I wanted to write my own kind of college red cup anthem.

And that's what No Sleep was bomb. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what No Sleep was. And it did really well. The video did well. The song ended up going platinum. There was another song off of Rolling Papers that, you know, if I perform it now, people just...

It's like hella nostalgic for them. Like, they remember the moment that shit dropped, which is really cool to have them type of records, man. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. You ever fuck with the Beach Boys? Nah, that was funny when you said that at the beginning that I got a Beach Boys vibe.

Wouldn't it be nice if... I don't know about sample, but I would put them in the studio. I would just straight up work with them niggas, yo. Do something completely brand new. Are they all alive? I don't know. I assume they're alive. They seem pretty healthy. Did one of the dudes pass away?

They seem pretty healthy, bro. of the dudes pass away? Nah. They seem pretty healthy, bro. You ever saw that movie? The movie about the one dude from the Beach Boys? No. What movie? It's just wild. I'm not even talking about it.

I don't want to fuck it up. Was that the one like his dad was like... Yeah, it's all fucked up. It's all fucked up. What? Is that the same fucked up story I heard? I'm a Beach Boy guy. Wait a minute.

You don't know the Beach Boy story? I just know this music. The dude, the main, like, the dude who, like, wrote most of the music. He was what? I don't remember, so I don't want to fuck it up right now. I think we fucking thinking about the same fucked up ass shit. It's fucked up. All right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's not crazy. It's fucked up. It's fucked up. It's fucked up. It's fucked up. Yeah, it's fucked up. The Beach Boys? Yeah, bro.

Like, it's some dark shit. Yeah. It's super dark shit. Every time I go, when I go to Rhode Island. That's why they had to make beach voice? Yeah, bro. Like, it's some dark shit. Yeah. It's super dark shit. Everywhere I go, when I go to an island, That's why they had to make that happy-ass music, bro. Yo, that's crazy.

You gotta watch it. You have never seen the movie? Yeah, bro. Oh, you gotta see that movie. Huh? Oh, my God. What'd you say? He fucking knows what it is.

Yeah, that movie. Not Law and Mercy? Oh, God. Not Law and Mercy? That movie is crazy. Love and Mercy. That movie is crazy. You gotta watch that shit. It's called Love and Mercy That movie That movie is Love and Mercy Love and Mercy That movie is crazy You gotta watch that shit

It's called Love and Mercy It's dark It's fucked About the Beach Boys About yeah The main dude He's one of the main dudes

That wrote a lot of the music Yeah so I'm actually Not a Beach Boy Oh wait But the inspiration Yeah yeah Go off the inspo Didn't you live somewhere else

Like internationally Like your parents Were in the military My parents were definitely In the military I was born in North Dakota Oh, that's hell Yeah, I lived in Japan

That really exists North and South Dakota Yes, of course This nigga said It really exists I thought they just made that up I've been to North Dakota That shit's crazy

You know what I mean Like I'm just fucking with you. I'm fucking with you. Yes, it exists, sir. You don't remember that movie? But they maybe shouldn't have two. They should just make it one Dakota. They got Mexico and New Mexico.

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Bam! He didn't want to run the... But yeah, I was born in North Dakota. I lived in Japan. I lived in Oklahoma. I lived in... Germany, I think I saw something. Germany, I lived in fucking South Carolina. Like years you remember, like memorable years

that you remember these places. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would live there for like maybe a year or two at a time. But what branch of military was your family? They were air force oh so you definitely moving around yeah so that was all the way up till i was like 13 years old wow oh yeah so you you got something from all these places yeah you think that informs your music today at all no not really global anthem no not really the music no i wouldn't even say that my dad really like influenced my music just by listening to a bunch of records in the house

when I was young. I have a really good musical palette. He would listen to disco, he would listen to Bob Marley, he would listen to hip hop, he would listen to Patti LaBelle, he would listen to Sade. You know what I'm saying? He would listen to Troup, he would listen to fucking, my mom, I mean, my dad listened to everything,

and my mom, she listened to more like hardcore rap shit. So that's why I started listening to like doggy style. Your mom was more hardcore rap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was more like DJ Quick, doggy style. Oh shit. AMG and shit like that. Yeah, she listened to Outkast real heavy too. I go with the mama West. My mom's the one who smoked weed.

So she was like Erykah Badu and like all of that shit. So like, yeah, that's where I got my musical background from. I think moving around just helped me deal with people. You know what I'm saying? I was always the new kid at school. So I always had to kind of assert myself or just be myself. You know what I mean?

And it just helped me deal with different crowds of people. I could get down with anybody. It don't matter what race, what your background is, what your age is. Yeah, I fuck with everybody. I've been around everybody. I know everybody's family. So it's like I'm cool with everybody. Nah, that's some global shit.

Yeah, yeah. Literally. Global shit. Real shit. And your father didn't smoke? Just moms? Nah, my dad don't smoke weed. He'll hit a little bit of weed here and there.

But coming up, for sure, my mom is the weed head. All right. Listening to gangster rap. Yeah, for sure. 100%. I'm going to take another shot. Let's go. Let's take it. I'm going to take another shot, man. Like I said, man, I show us about giving people their flowers. You definitely

deserve your flowers. You're a legend. Thanks, dude. You're out here doing this shit. Having fun. Continue to be an inspiration to me. I love watching you. I fun. Continue to be an inspiration to me. I love watching you. I love to continue to see you have success and continue to be happy. Thanks. That's actually something we should all salute.

Nah, for real. Because this game is a roller coaster. Being a rapper, we can't have a bad day. If you want to have a bad day and you come outside, there's always somebody that want to take a picture. It's always somebody that want to, you know, have a hug or whatever.

So, you know, I know how hard it is to be famous and to maintain this and to maintain, you know, being level-headed. So I just want to commend you, salute you.

Thank you. And tell you, we love you and respect you over here. Salud. Cheers. I'm drinking all this goddamn Japanese here. Salud. Cheers. I'm drinking all this goddamn Japanese whiskey. Japanese whiskey.

Shout out to Uka. Excuse me. I was drinking a Japanese Deleon. Deleon. You know, black people own tequila.

Yeah. And you own goddamn gin. Gin. Yep. So why you ain't drinking your own shit?

You gotta ask. I don't drink alcohol. He's being real. Edit this part out. Edit this part out because we want you to sell your shit. I don't care. I don't have to drink it to sell it. There's a gin drinker out there waiting to drink it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Sonny, you ain't going to take a sip? Go right now. Take a sip of his shit. Come on, man. He was like, sit that out. Yeah, come on, man. Come on. We can't have people. Come on. Sonny, man. He was like, send that out. Yeah, come on, man. Come on.

We can't have people. Come on. Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny. Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny. Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, got... No, no, we can't ask for all kinds of shit right now. Yeah. You want her to shake it for you? You want her to shake it? Wiz wants you mixing his shit up.

Wiz wants you taking his shit straight up. Yeah, we want you to do the palette thing. My hands are cold, so they're not working right now. My head is, like, kill deal right now. Yeah, oh, my goodness. Yeah, see? Let you know it's dummy proof. Don't drop it like Boris.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give me this, son. Yep, my hand just don't Boris. Give me this. Yeah, yeah. Give me this, sonny. You got a professional there. Yep. My hand just don't work. I got a professional. You want to hear this? Here we go.

Then I'm going to make a drink, and I'm going to keep drinking it. I feel like Boris should have a shot, too. You have to, because I'm dropping the joint. Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris, Boris. Hey, que papote. While I hit that uka. You guys can tell who I was at the party, right?

I'm going back on three. I'm going back on three. On the Uga. You was a bad influence. That's right. She got caught. Bad influence or bad influence. Exactly.

So go ahead and relax. Where's that you? Snoop called me peer pressure. He's like, that's your nickname. Damn. Yeah, that's perfect. Yeah, that's perfect. That's perfect. Got up with the bag. That's a, that's your nickname. Damn! Yeah, that's perfect. Yeah, that's perfect. That's a great

way to try it. Paul Burner, look at here. Let's make sure we're on the floor. Paulie, Paulie, Paulie. Paulie, what's up? Cheers. You ready? Yeah, that tastes fine. I was ready to smoke my head. Cheers. That shot is crazy. This shot is crazy

too, bro. You're going to kill me, bro. Oh, that shot is crazy. This shot is crazy, too, bro. Yo, you better kill me, bro. Yo, Wiz, I like what you just did. Good. Let's get an honest, good critique. Go ahead, go ahead, Sonny. Thank you, because I'm waiting for the face, and the face never happens.

No, Sonny didn't even make a face. He didn't make a face. You drink super smooth because I used to drink Bombay every day. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. In Bombay. In Bombay. I like what Wiz did. Uh-huh. In Bombay.

In Bombay. I like where it's at. You're even like this. When we was toasting, that's a new shit. If you don't know what you want to drink, you do it like this. It's your blunt. International, I don't drink, but I smoke. Mm-hmm. So, Sonny, you didn't finish.

So, give us the crisp feeling. What's the flavor? Flavor palette? I'm definitely going to pick this over Bombay. Yes. Yep. Bomb. Bomb. The drink champs have spoken? Yes. Bomb. Bomb.

The drink champs have spoken. Yes. But is this true? The champions of drinking. Is this true? Thank you. That you declined to go on a tour with Drake? That was a long time ago, too.

Do you regret it? What was that? No, I don't regret it. My thing. Unanimous. I love this guy. I love this guy. I'm such like a, I don't know.

I think the word that people use is stubborn. But when I have a vision and I see things going a certain way, I see it all the way through. And at that point in my career, I was right there. And then all of these certain things just started coming out of the woodwork that could have deterred me from what I was naturally and evenly doing. And I just had to respectfully decline. And that's the thing that a lot of people don't see happen is somebody stand up for themselves and respectfully decline I'd respectfully said no to that. I respectfully said no when Rick Ross tried to sign me to Maybach music as well. There were a lot of other situations where I was like, I'm doing my thing. I'm Taylor gang I'm Wiz Khalifa. I don't want to fucking step on your toes because you're going to be pissed at me when

you see how hard I'm going about myself. So I might as well just stick it out and give you this real ass answer. That's all I did. And be allies at it. We'll be cool afterwards. Hopefully, yeah, for sure. But I'm going to be 100 though.

And that's all I was. Yeah. If you don't see your vision through and you give up, you abandon your vision, you're never going to forgive yourself. You're never going to forgive yourself. You got to stand on it. You know what I'm saying? It's a hard decision to make. Yeah, no, it is.

Because you get all of these things that are so shiny and they look so cool, but you got to stay focused. Yeah, yeah. That's crazy, yeah. September 8th? Yeah, September 8th. September 6th. Oh, yeah. So we act the same. Come on, yeah, exactly.

I didn't know what I was getting myself into. Yeah, Foxy's is September 6th. I believe Beyonce's the 4th. The 4th, yeah. Michael Jackson's in there. Michael Jackson's a Virgo? Yeah, yeah. He's like the-

Exactly. Oh, my goodness. You don't dance nothing like him. Michael Jackson's in there. Kobe's in there. Michael Jackson's a Virgo? Yeah, yeah. He's like that. Exactly. Oh, my goodness. You don't dance nothing like him. Michael Jackson's in there. Kobe's in there. Who else? You said Hove? Kobe.

Oh, Kobe. Kobe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nas is a Virgo. We know that. I should have knew Kobe was a Virgo. I did a record with Kobe, and I went to the studio, and I wrote the rhyme for him, and he was like, you ain't writing my rhyme.

Yeah. And I was like, wow, he really went into the bus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Virgo boys. Yeah, Virgo boys. God damn it. Nope, I'm not answering that question. Not answering or asking it?

I'm not asking that question. Who sent you that question? Sonny D. I want to know what it is. No. Yeah, why don't you ask? Why don't you ask? Yeah, go ahead.

Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny, Sonny. No, I said, because someone you know, got a really good friend, Bob. You love this person, great person. And I just get it, but I told him, that's why Amber Rose is so good. And I said, why don't you ask? Why don't you ask? Why don't you ask? Why don't you ask?

Why don't you ask? Why don't you ask? Why don't you ask? Why don't you ask? Why don't you ask? Why don't you ask? Why don't you ask? Why don't you ask?

Why don't you ask? Why don't you ask? Why don't you ask? Why don't you ask? Why don't you ask? Why don't you ask? I'm this first great person. And I just get it. But I told him, that's why Amber Rose is so good with us. We just don't work with us. Oh. That's my sister. I look at her like my sister.

It's not a bad question. No, I read it wrong. Oh, okay. How did you read that, bro? I don't know. I just didn't sound good when I read it. Huh? The first always talk.

I didn't get over it. Yeah. Where is it? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that. I love that. You know, I brag about y'all sometimes. Yeah, I brag about y'all sometimes.

Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah. Like, I brag about y'all sometimes when I see people like You know going through certain things And I'm like Look how they took the Amakuba route You know what I mean Yeah yeah yeah And look how they both

Hell yeah So I brag about y'all sometimes Yeah we're like the ideal Couple Even though we're not together Yeah yeah don't you mean It's like we We share the most beautiful thing in life

We have a kid We got great memories. We were married, so everything we did was out of pure love. You know what I'm saying? We planned on being with each other forever. You know what I'm saying? But that shit gets difficult. And I think with marriage, like legal marriage, it kind of sucks because that has to be the end of something when that's over.

But I think we're proving that it's not the end of everything, even when that legal shit is over. You know what I mean? I got her back. She knows it. She got my back. I know it. And we do a great job being there for our kid. We do so many things for Sebastian, and not even just for him,

but we're such a good unit for him that I didn't see growing up. You know what I'm saying? My parents, they weren't able to function as well as her parents either. I think just that generation of dysfunction, yeah, there was no come together there was no holidays there was no uh uh birthdays together there was no it was like it was yo that bitch is by my son

why that nigga over there it was just real dysfunctional you know what i'm saying like that's what we grew up seeing i love seeing seeing Bas' birthday. Y'all celebrate. Yeah, we do things together. Y'all both together. He gets to enjoy both of us together. He doesn't see us separately. You know what I mean? Let's make some noise. Hold on.

Let's make some noise. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. That's a beautiful thing. That's really important. My parents were divorced since I was two, and I had both of them in my life.

Very important. Both of them in my life. Love my mother, love my dad, but they are dysfunctional as fuck. can't be in the same room together and that's not good for a kid like you know what i mean and it's not their fault because they probably didn't grow up seeing the best functioning anything but we gotta break that and we gotta be better for our fucking kids so there's a lot you know what i mean there's a lot that we do just to be like not just to be but it's it's natural where it's like yo this man needs to see uh you know his father treat his mother good he needs to hear his mother say great thing about things about his father like that's

important you know like for real for now that's a beautiful thing oh yeah both and um that's a beautiful thing oh yeah what y'all doing is dope. And like I said, on the sideline, because I know how I know you and I see how y'all get along. I always tell my homies when I see somebody doing something, I'm like, look,

when they're in the public's eye, how could you not get along? You know what I'm saying? I mean, it takes a lot, though. You got to really not be a fucking asshole. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people are putting up a front for cameras and they'll be fuckingman when the camera comes on and be

a piece of shit behind closed doors right we ride for each other behind closed doors there's nobody who can come in between us not even our parents nobody we started our world together and that's what we live in and that's how we rock and that's how we stay on the same page did you guys speak on that though when breaking up, we got to that point. You know, the relationship, it put a strain on us. And I think it just brought out the best in us. It kind of forced us to look at ourselves and what we bring to the table. And moving forward, I feel like we both really want love and companionship.

So the people that we're going to be with, they have to deserve us. So we're making ourselves better for the people who are around us. And in turn, we're going to treat each other the best ever because we're just doing all of this work. And other people might not get us on the outside, but we've been through enough together. And that's the thing too, is like time helps and heals everything. So you can go through a situation one year and then, you know, six or seven years later, that shit don't even matter. But you have to be the bigger person and you have to grow and you have to, you know, really communicate and want to be on the same page as somebody. And a lot of people, they have, you know, certain shit that they need to go through. I'm lucky to have a person who's as thoughtful as she is.

She's lucky to be with me as caring and as compassionate as I am. You know what I mean? So we're really fortunate to have each other. And I'd imagine your son made you guys better people as well. Yeah, 100%, man. Hell yeah. I feel like she was already dope as fuck, honestly. I had to grow up.

Oh, one, two, three. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. She was always cool as hell. I needed to grow my ass up two, three Yeah, yeah, yeah She was always cool as hell I needed to grow my ass up That's honest, man Nah, for real Hell yeah, honestly

Man, Wiz, man Like I said, our show is about giving flowers, man I'm so proud to give you your flowers Hell yeah, thank you, man Thank you for joining us, man You're really a full-fledged legend out here You stood the test of time You're out here being the happiest I love that, man. Thank you for joining us, man. You're really a full-fledged legend out here. Still the test of time.

You're out here being the happiest. I love that, man. Hell yeah. I love watching you. And just probably for the last question, there's no beef with you or Gillian Wallow. Y'all good. Okay. No, I wish nothing but the best for those dudes.

For Gillian Wallow, I'm not going to say those dudes, because that could be like... It seems like you not... Oh, yeah, he said... No, Gilly and Wallo, like, even with that situation, I never really spoke on it in detail, because I wasn't at that space. But it just didn't go the way that I wanted it to go. Even with it being a misunderstanding with the message.

Because with him making the joke, that wasn't the thing that really caught me off guard. It was more about him using his platform to downplay me. And I didn't like that. If we're in a room together and you make a joke about my shorts, I'm fine with that. Because I can defend myself. But if you go on your platform and you say, I'm unfollowing Wiz because of this reason, you're low-key telling your followers to do the same thing. And that's not what we out here doing. You know what I'm saying? Go tell them to buy my shit or say something dope that I'm doing. You know what

I'm saying? Promote me or help me out because that's what I'm going to do for you. I understand it because we all from the hood and that's what niggas do and blah blah blah but you're supposed to be better than that so I responded in my own way of you know defending myself and it went to a certain extent where I'm pretty sure a lot of my fans like reported him and got his shit taken down I I didn't do it personally. I would never do that to anybody because that's not my style. It's easy to go on the internet and paint that picture. And that's more or less what he did.

And that's what I didn't appreciate as well. And I tried to call him and I reached out to him personally. And the conversation didn't go how I wanted it to go. He called me all types of names, like out of my name, which I didn't expect. He said a bunch of stuff like real fighting words, which I didn't expect because that's not how he acts when he's on the internet. So when I'm trying to have a man to man conversation with you, why are you acting like this with me now? I'm not coming at you trying to be tough. I'm trying to let you know that I did it, get your page deactivated, and that we need to settle this in a better way than you doing it the way that you're doing. I got on the phone

with Wallo. I was able to talk to him in a sensible manner because that's the only way that I want to have a conversation. I don't want to have a conversation with the names that was going around, like what was being said. Me and Wallo's conversation was cool, but then Gilly went on the internet and was saying stuff that was completely 180 of what happened. And I don't respect that. Me and them never had a chance to have a conversation after that. I'm willing to just squash it and let it go. But that's the real situation. That's what happened.

It was a bunch of lies. It was a bunch of me trying to be cool, getting called out of my name. And I'm still at the position where it's like, all right, I can just let it go. Or, you know what I mean? Because I don't want to, you know what I mean, shit on nobody's platform or nothing like that. They're doing their thing. I don't wanna You know what I mean Shit on nobody's platform Or nothing like that They're doing their thing I don't have any Hard feelings towards them

I don't have any Hard feelings towards Anybody who I love And comes in contact With them And is cool You don't gotta pick sides With me

Like I want everybody To get along I just want the same respect And I really wasn't Dealt that hand But it's cool I'm willing to let it go Like I ain't tripping off

That shit I think I think that's that shit. I think, I think that's warranted. Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, I think that's,

yeah. And I, and I think they'll see this and reach out. from our interact, they're good dudes. Yeah, yeah,

yeah. They're all good, man. I'm, I'm always down to just shake hands, let it go. It's a beautiful thing. We got way more important stuff

to be worried about, you know what I mean? Yeah, we got to stop with all this misunderstanding. And hopefully, like, just moving hands, let it go. It's a beautiful thing. We got way more important stuff to be worried about. You know what I mean? Yeah, we got to stop with all this misunderstanding. And hopefully, just moving forward, you'll be able to deal with situations better than that. Because I'm a cool dude. You don't got to get like that. Or the same image that you portray, really be about that in real life. You know what I'm saying?

You're trying to influence people to take a better route, but you're not necessarily taking that route. And you know, it is what it is. Right. Yeah, yeah. We could all be better. Let's just put it that way. And we're all going to try to be better.

Right, right, right. How about that? Hopefully. This should inspire everybody. You and the uka is the fuck out right now. I'm uka'd out. You can uka'd out. I'm uka'd throughout my head to my toes.

You uka uka right now. Unga, unga, unga,og it out. I'm oog it through my head to my toes. You ooga ooga right now. Oonga, oonga, oonga, oomba loopa. I'm doing it. Can I use the bathroom break? No, I'm going to take another bathroom break. And then that's it. We got like five more minutes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm about to break ass, motherfucker. And light that gun up. What happened? It's done. You're not going to light it with what? Cereal milk is good weed. What are you not going to light it with what? Cereal milk is good weed. What are you not going to light it with? I'm going to, when I smoke this haze, I'm going to smoke it on IG.

I might smoke the whole thing live or I might just put it on my story. I'm going to smoke that haze live on Instagram. And I'm going to listen to Purple Haze. I'm going to put Cameron's album on. I'm going to put to Purple Haze. I'm going to put Cameron's album on. I'm going to put Purple Haze on. I'm going to roll up a fat ass join us in Haze. I'm going to be like, with the goons I spar. Stay in tune with Mars.

She like, damn, this the realest sense. Kumbaya. We'll be right back. I'm out. is this your first time smoking a hookah? Is this your first? Like I said, I'm used to the volcano, like, where you got to fucking heat it up. With the bag. With a plastic bag. Plastic bag, yeah. Yeah, it's the same vibe, but it's like the hookah version. And it's got water.

It's clean. Yeah, now you're going to take this home, you're going to see there's a whole different technology right here, man. It looks like an air freshener. Ooh. Yeah. Or a humidifier. A humidifier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. technology right here man it looks like a uh like an air freshener like like it's like oh yeah yeah or humidifier like humidifier yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i i had the volcano too yeah i had the original one with the bag just blow up like that that's wrong like the the g pin and like that that's where the the the vapes come from

but those aren't like real vapes because they use coils and shit it'd be like heating it up hella like this is way better for you like yeah i mean i love how you killed that you broke that down i love how you break it down like a science it's true it's a science because you're putting smoke in your body so you got to be careful like how you do it you gotta be mindful yeah like niggas be taking dabs and they be heating them shits up too much. Like, you know what I'm saying? You got to do low temp. You know what I'm saying?

Let it bubble. Get the high taste. You know what I'm saying? So you ain't fucking yourself up. You don't remember when dabs first came out, they had the blowtorch. I knew that wasn't right. You still use the torch. You still use the torch.

That's not right, yo. You still use the torch. A blowtorch? You still use the torch. You can still control the temp. But why? Well, I mean, that's the only way to pause getting hot enough. You had to pause that?

I mean, I'm from a different generation. We play pause a little bit different than y'all do. It's fun though, pause. One of the things that I go through your discography and I go through, well, give it from him. Look, he is the one dude that shouldn't have the joint. Let him smoke. He got him.

You got a police cuss. He going to wake up different. And he going to blame Khalifa Cush. He going to be like, man, that's that KK. He definitely got to do a piss test tomorrow. That's that KK. Fuck it. Nah, they don't piss test for weed no more.

Yeah. KKK. KKK. tomorrow. That's that KK. Fuck it. Nah, they don't piss test for weed no more. Yeah. KKK. Don't add that to KK. Don't add that. You better add to K. Go get that ass too. What's up? He's going to take it back.

I'm still here. Yeah. I'm still here. Now, one of the things that comes up about you is your love for Max B. Yeah. Bigger Vell. Bigger Vell. Shout out to Bigger Vell, man.

This is giveaway. Oh, shit. That is smoky. Fuck away. Oh, yeah, baby. It didn't work? 420. God damn.

I feel like I'm inside a joint right now. I can't even see you, bro. I am a joint. Great chance! You win! You're the ghost from the net. It's like Batman just came through here. Yes, yes, yes.

God damn. Yeah, that's a picture right there. That's got to be like history right now. That's hard y'all didn't even do this to Snoop cause Snoop don't play that shit nah nah nah

hell nah not yet Snoop don't play that shit we did it to Khaled he ran Snoop did not play that shit somebody did it B-Real would be down

no B-Real was here I think we did it with B-Real we have it with B-Real okay B-Real would be down he's with all the smoking antics nah shout out he's a smoking legend he's a smoking antics this Shout out. He's a smoking legend.

He's a smoking antics. This is a new generation. Fire. Not Snoop. Not anybody. Is there any young dude? Go ahead. Go ahead. Ask the question.

Go ahead. Go ahead. Ask the question. I love the confidence. Ask the question. Is there any young dude out here coming up that can smoke with you. That can do 10 ukas. Okay.

Absolutely not. Only person I think that can hang with me and I probably haven't even smoked with this fool yet but I already smoked hella dope. It's Chief Keef.

Chief Keef? Yeah, Chief Keef. I'll put Sosa up there because I heard it. And when you in these streets you hear some shit. Everybody else, no. Don't even let them.

Don't let them try to fool you. And they'll not. They wouldn't even try. They wouldn't even. I don't even think they would say anything like, oh, yeah, I can hang with. No. Hell no. Absolutely not.

I don't even think they're trying to, like, honestly. Like, they're doing other drugs. They're not trying to smoke weed. We need more people to smoke a ton of pot and just buy ounces of weed and just listen to music and be cool and ride around with their friends and get girls. I like Lil' Tyler. Lil' Tyler? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If y'all heard of Lil' Tyler, I like it. Nah, Lil' Tyler.

Tyler the Creator hard, though. Yeah, Lil' Tyler hard, though. They say you spend over $30,000 on weed a month? No, that was one particular year. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Slow down or you went back up? No, it's probably more, but I grow it.

That seems like a low number beyond the two. Yeah, I grow it, so it's like, you know what I'm saying? It evens out. Okay. Humboldt County? There's just multiple places now. It's all over the place, bro. It's like wherever I land, bro.

It's all over the fucking place. Yeah, exactly. It is. It's right outside. It's just growing. Goddamn. Do you like, back then, people used to come to Florida and complain about Florida. Hey, relax, buddy.

I said Florida. I didn't say Miami. Oh, okay. I didn't say Miami. Oh, okay. I didn't say Miami. It is. What is it? Yeah. We established that earlier.

I don't know where you was at. Weed in Florida. Everywhere has decent weed. It just depends on who you know. You're lucky you knew me at the time. Cali is the best weed in the world, sir. The best in the world. Yes, sir. Hey, man, calm down.. Cali is the best weed in the world, sir. Yes, sir.

Northern Cali to be exact. In the Bay Area. Yeah, the Bay Area. That's the best weed. Green Door? Have you been to Green Door? The Green Door in Amsterdam? No, in...

I thought they was... In the Bay? Green Door is in Amsterdam. Jesus Christmas, brother. I'm talking about the other green. You're talking about the other green now, man. In San Diego. No, San Francisco.

Let it go. All right, I'm back. Let it go. I'm just going to let it go. The Bay's got the best weed. The Bay's got the best weed. It's like the purest, stickiest, most paid attention to.

Because it's closest to the source? I mean, the people who grow it, the hippies out there are just fucking, they're just traditional, just weed. They don't even care about the money, bro. They just care about the plant. Yeah, that's the super duper hippies that are around there. They're like down to the soil, like every little microfiber. They play music for the plants. They play music for the plants.

They're in there. Yeah. Colorado weed is cool. It's kind of dry. It's a little dusty. It's not as sticky as West Coast weed. West Coast weed is that sticky, icky, bro. Isn't Colorado considered the West Coast?

No, it's not. I mean, you could consider it that if you wanted to. Look at the words you're using. West Coast. There's no coast on Colorado. I think maybe with radio, it's considered West Coast. Oh, fuck. That's the Midwest, isn't it?

It's West. It's not West Coast. Yeah, I don't think they're on Pacific Time over there. I think they're... Yeah, they're Mountain Time, right? Mountain Time, then they would not be West Coast. Mountain Time? Yeah, they're Mountain Time.

Yeah, that's Central. Yeah, that's Central. Yeah, that's central. They got Valentine's? Don't smoke what you smoked and drank what you drank and then come with all this knowledge right now. It makes you smarter, man. KK and McQueen makes you fucking smarter. But he didn't say smarter.

He said some geography facts over there. He got some Ducey mixed in there. He said geography, not facts. He said KKK. That's some good, that's history. Now the picture on your shirt is making a lot of sense to me right now. Show me. Who painted that on your shirt?

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T.I., T.I. and Lil Boosie, I know that y'all, you know, y'all could have went to war, you could have did a whole bunch of tremendous crazy shit, but the fact that y'all showed that two black men could get together and could talk it out, I really commend that, I really respect that, I really salute that that Because we need to Keep pushing that That It's not always drama Everything A disagreement

Doesn't lead to y'all Fighting and shooting I love the fact That y'all got together So T.I. and Boosie Wherever y'all at You know what I mean I want to salute

And say I want to Yeah I'm so tired of violence I don't like gun violence I don't mind fighting, though. All right. Yeah, fighting.

We see you kick the shit out of somebody. Because you're a trained fighter. But, like, it's healthy to, like, if you fight, like, in a controlled environment. Right. Because niggas going to get into it. You're going to have a disagreement. But if you're going to shoot somebody over it, that's kind of whack. Right.

But if we can throw the hands evenly, you'll really see if somebody really got a problem or not. And that would solve a lot, you know? If niggas would just square up, that would solve a lot. But a lot of niggas are scared. And it used to solve a lot. Yeah, a lot of niggas don't want to fight. Or if you could train to fight, then it would give you more confidence to, if somebody would be like, yo, let's get it.

They'd be like, all right, cool. I don't have to have a gun to, you know what I mean, handle this. But there's a lot of programming that goes with that, too. But I don't mind fighting. You know to handle this. There's a lot of programming that goes with that too, but I don't mind fighting. You know what I'm saying? I think it's healthy. I think you should learn how to control violence. Do it in a controlled environment

and get it out the way and continue on with your life. Are you exploring? Yeah. The thing about trained fighting, it also teaches you how to lose with grace. Yeah, for sure, because somebody's going to win and somebody's going to yeah. The thing about trained fighting, it also teaches you how to lose with grace. Yeah, for sure. Because somebody's going to win and somebody's going to lose. You know what I mean? But the majority of times when we spar,

it's not like, I hate this dude. I'm trying to take his head off. Somebody gets a good shot in, you're like, good shot, bro. Some technical shit. And if you go to war with somebody and if it gets nasty,

but at the end of it, you both come out, you're both like, yeah, that was a good one. You respect them a little bit more than anything. And I think people could learn from that.

Because there's discipline in it as well, right? Yeah, absolutely. 100%. Yeah, it's good for you. It's definitely good for you. Hell yeah. But you're not trying

to spoil no rap or nothing like that. I mean... If it came down to it. I mean, it's for sport. It's not like a competition. So it's like, it's fun. It would be fun to see what somebody else knows

or to learn from them or to show them what I've learned throughout my time. So like, yeah, it'd be fun. Oh, I got a couple of partners in the league, man. The high rollers, that's the Brazilian jujitsu where you can smoke weed and roll at the same time

and you compete for a pound of weed or multiple pounds of weed wait what league did we just jump league yeah yeah yeah we went from fighting

to smoking yeah yeah it's the same it's the same thing yeah you fight and smoke at the same time there's a whole

there's a whole league for it it's called high rollers that's the league you smoke and you fight yeah it's called high rollers

Brazil well they do fights everywhere my partners have teams there's a whole league for it. It's called High Rollers. You smoke and you fight? Yeah, it's called High Rollers. Brazil? Well, they do fights everywhere. My partners have teams. There's a Khalifa Kush team. There's a headquarters in Vegas. They get it on. And the fights are regular.

And it's on regular TV. So it's filmed. It's growing. You know what I mean? Literally. It's growing. Yeah, you smoke weed and you fight. Yo, Sonny, you got to join that league, bro.

Yeah, yeah. And then i'm one of the creative directors and the co-owners of the pfl it's like in direct competition with bellator and ufc we're on espn espn2 and it's a fighting league it's a point point-based system where the fighters at the end of the season they they have opportunity to fight for a million dollars which not a lot of fighters get to right unless they do it their whole career exactly so this takes like you know the top fighters and they're able to earn points throughout the season depending on who they win against and how they win and that's how the championships are determined so it's really based on the fights and it gives them opportunity to own shit um they own their their own licensing and all of that stuff so they get they get a hell of money just off of who they are and fighters who

their contracts end at other companies they come right over to the pfl and just make a hell of money yeah yep jake paul just signed on with us he's oh yeah he's gonna do a fight yeah yeah he's gonna do his first martial arts he's going to do his first MMA fight with PFL. He's only been boxing. Yeah, yeah. He's going to do his first MMA fight with PFL. Kicking and all that. Kicking.

He bad kick. Kicking, wrestling. And smoking. Elbowing. They got to take him to the ground. I'm sure he knows all that. Yeah, everything. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, everything. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You go to the corner, take a bong rip. This is crazy. This is insanity, man. You should just have Papanta there with a gun and just shoot everybody.

Yeah, exactly. That's what I mean. That's how we win the fight. You smoke the whole ring out and I come in there. Wow. You appear after the smoke. Exactly. So one thing you said

is when I asked you you came early was like you said I'm a businessman and I love that, obviously. But let's talk about these businesses that you have. Not just the liquor. The fighting shit is dope.

The fighting shit. Yeah, the liquor is dope. There's PFL, there's Liquid Death, there's a water company. Oh, you're part of Liquid Death? Yeah, I'm part of Liquid Death. Oh, I thought they was

giving you the water. Yeah, no, we've been growing this brand for years. Yo, that was genius. Yeah, yup. A genius brand. A beer can. How far along were they before you got involved? They were brand new. Yeah? Yeah, no, we've been growing this brand for years. That was genius. Yeah, yep. A genius brand. A beer can. How far along were they before you got involved?

They were brand new. Yeah? Yeah, yep. They were just looking for people to get down, and they were really generous. It was like, yo, I'm not even going to talk about the details of the deal, but it was really, really nice. Yeah, that was genius, man. Yeah, yep. Hell yeah.

There's Liquid Death. There's McQueen. But I have the whole company is, you know, it's all under everything. So Bel Air, D'Ussé, Bamboo, Vion. You don't have to answer this, but do you get... Yes. Part of all of them? Yeah, yeah, hell yeah. I gave up a little bit, you know, because this was mine.

Right. Like, Brett went fully in with me on McQueenqueen so this was just me so i gave a piece of this up for a piece of the rest of the company as well so it only makes sense you know what i mean yeah because we're all family anyway and when one does helping each other grow one does well every every one of them does well um i don't know if you ever ever seen the company Shop GLD, the jewelry company. I own a piece of that because the creators of that came out of my camp. So when they first started the business, they gave me a little piece of that. I have Hotbox by Wiz. Well, no, it's Packed Bowls by Wiz now, actually.

They changed it. During the pandemic, when all the restaurants closed closed down i opened up a delivery only restaurant and we're in like hella cities all over the place so it's basically like a delivery only menu that you can get it's not like a full restaurant but it's it serves food and it's packed bowls by wiz uh what else. Fuck. What else do we got? What else do we got, Will? Yeah, the GLD shit. We got tons of merch. What else do we got?

Other businesses. Yeah, we got the Mushroom Company, Mr. Caps. I thought Sonny was telling you what business you have. I'm like, Sonny, you too high right now, bro. Telling him what business he got Yeah GLD We'll get you right Yo take a hit of that Uka man Oh yeah the weed farms

Oh we got a gaming team too The Pittsburgh Knights Yeah we got a gaming team, too. The Pittsburgh Knights. Yeah, we got a gaming team as well. Like video game teams. That shit makes breath. Don't sleep on that shit. Pittsburgh Knights. Yeah, yeah.

Those are like the ones that are right in front of us. It's a lot of shit. It's a lot of stuff. Hell, yeah. I'm going to take one more shot, then. I'm going to take one more shot then. I'm going to take two more shots. Just Taylor gang. We keep it Taylor gang.

We keep it Taylor. Man, Wiz, we want to give you flowers. You really deserve them, like I said. You're really a legend out here. You really stood the test of time. And I love listening to your music because I can understand. The person? Not only the person, but I can understand that you stand the test of time.

Meaning, this was the music before here. I can make music that sound like that, but it's my lane. And you continue to do that. And it should be noticed. I appreciate it. It should be. Come on. All right, now.

These are all the shots I took. I mean, I took it on one glass. Bro, I would be so hammered. I would be calling up all types of people. But you used to be drinking heavy. Yes. So what happened? Go away.

The Cuban goodbye. Yeah, totally. Totally, yeah, for sure. What made you stop? Your kicks wasn't coming out good? Nah, the kicks weren't. The kicks were perfectly fine. The mistakes that the kicks

makes you have. I mean, yeah, that's part of it. It wasn't really too bad of mistakes. I think I just, I don't feel like I can afford too many more drunk nights.

Okay. I respect that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just, it just, it just ran its course. Like, it hit a wall. Like, I feel like everything else in my life that I'm doing is lifelong.

You know what I'm saying? Plus the training that you do. I'm sure that doesn't align at all. I'm going to be doing that for the rest of my life. I'm going to be making music for the rest of my life. Did you ever see him kick somebody? Yeah, I've seen him. He's going to kick the shit out of somebody.

I'm telling you. Drinking, it hit a ceiling. It wasn't getting any better. It was just like, ugh. That's the crazy shit we're in. It gets better for us, and hit a ceiling. It wasn't getting any better. It was just like, ugh. That's the crazy shit we're in. It gets better for us, and it's terrible. Have fun, bro. No, it's terrible good.

That's why I love people to just get fucked up. Because I understand. It's fun as hell, bro. That's all it is. It's fun. It's hella fun. Until it's not. You know?

Skrrt. You's hella fun. Until it's not. You know? Skrrt! You dropped the jing! But it's cool. I love people to enjoy some drinks. I love people to fucking rage and party. I'm not one of those people who can't get drunk around me. Right, teach their own. I just ain't finna indulge.

I love smoking weed I love mushrooms Right Yeah You don't want one of the chocolates From my homie Yeah I do the mushroom pills bro

I do capsules Oh I got it I'ma do some right now You what I got capsules Give me those capsules Nah I got capsules From my homie

I'ma do drugs On your fucking show But I'll still give you From my homie as well Here look I do This is from my homie I do shrooms and shrimp out.

Same one from the chocolates he took. Micro dose. Those are micro dosing, though. Yeah, you're not going to super trip. 400 milligrams. That's a lot. That's why I stopped taking those. Oh, but the Lion's Mane.

Is this the- No, no. It's still- That's the one? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, no, these are strong, bro. I don't know what's about to happen right now.

I'm about to do some mushrooms. Okay. All right, this is when... Sonny, Sonny, take a mushroom, buddy. Look at Sonny. Look at him. Sonny, you already took one. Take one, Sonny.

Let's go. You don't need another one. Oh, because Jamie wants one. Take one, Sonny. Let's go. You don't need another one. Oh, because Jamie wants one. Let's go, Jamie. Let's go, Jamie. Take one. Take one right now, son. All right, Jamie.

I blew it up. If you touch the whole thing, I already know. I'll chill this. Let's go. It's going to feel good. Hey, it's chilling. It's all good. Take the whole thing.

Are you taking two? Yeah. It doesn't have that much of a... Did you see him take two? Huh? I've never seen a nigga take two. Yeah, you'll be fine. You'll be fine.

You'll play that record again. Hell yeah. I gotta go piss one more time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can piss three more times. Yeah, I'm gonna smoke. I'm gonna piss too. Go ahead.

I'll be right back. Go ahead, go ahead. We're about to wrap, so... Yeah, yeah, we're out there. Two minutes. We'll be good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good looking, my nigga.

You know who is Sonny? I fuck with Sonny, bro. Sonny's with the vibes. He's a great dude. He's a great dude. Sonny's with the vibes. He's a good character, man. He's a great guy, man.

That's a good dude, man. I love that. Gotta be down. This is our homie from Uka. Okay, okay. Is my shit working? New one. Is my shit working? Fly homie from Uka. Is my shit working? Is my shit working? Fly in the new Uka.

I like this. Remember, you're taking that one home. Okay, this is mine? Yeah. I like this one. We're going to give him a brand new one. Do we have one in a box? Yeah. Mine's good? Okay, cool.

This is amazing i got haze i got uka i got oh yeah i'm gonna be so high yeah yeah you want to ask a question, Was? Yeah, I know he talks about, like, back in the days when he created the Laura Laura, like, super thug, you artists would, like, chase that hit, you know what I mean? So I wonder, like, if you have an album or a hit that you created, and then you would, like, slugging that for a good source, like you were saying, and you would chase it and try to get it. Mm-mm. No, I never felt like that. I felt like I'm more, I have like more of an issue of as soon as people start liking some shit, I go on to the next thing.

And that might be like a gift and a curse. Like you pivot from that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I heard people tell me like, bro, like you got to stop doing that. But I just, I don't like when people like shit too much. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, y'all like that? Let me do something different.

You know what I mean? That's enough of that. Yeah, so I never get stuck in my ways. And I always do shit that's totally different. So from Cushion Orange Juice, I did Cabin Fever because I wanted to do something totally different that didn't sound so laid back and chill. And people gravitated towards it. They loved it. And then I did Rolling Papers, which was, like, more mainstream.

And, you know, I got shit talked on that, but the fucking records went platinum. And then I did ONIFC with the fucking, I forget what color the pants were. I think they were, like, cheetah. Oh, it was the cheetah jacket with the American flag pants. Yeah. And people was like, that's not hip hop. Like, you know what I mean?

Blah, blah, blah. But for me, I was like really Al Green and Marvin Gaye. I wanted to make something that just looked like an old school album cover. So it doesn't always align

with what people think it's me or like on brand for, yeah, like what their taste for Wiz Khalifa is. But it's always me just like narrating my own story kind of, you know what I'm saying? Hell yeah. Your evolution, you're evolving on your own. I can't help it. I don't get comfortable like just sitting in one place. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm always changing or

always coming up with new ideas or just different ways to do things or inspiration or, you know what I mean? Just ways to reincorporate things and just tell a story without even, like, saying shit. And if you get it, you get it. Because a lot of my fans and a lot of people that, like, fuck with my music or fuck with me, they gravitate towards the same things. So they'll be like, oh, this is that or that's why he did it. But just on a larger scale, a lot of people don't get that shit. So it just comes off as fucking weird sometimes. So I just move forward and just hope that one day people will understand it or grasp it, but it never holds me back or gets me stuck to where I want to redo something that I've done before.

Nah, never that. You ever did something that was against the norm that you regretted? Mm-mm. Or an experiment that went wrong. No, I never had any experiments go wrong. Oh, wow. I try to calculate everything to where I'm pretty much going to win.

And a win for me, it might not be a win for everybody else but i feel like you already had calculated what would be a win exactly and i'm satisfied with it and it's a success based off of just getting to release it or you know i might not have got everything that i wanted to get done but i'm happy with what i got done you know what i mean like i i definitely just chalk it up and keep it moving like i'm always forward. And I think that's just a blessing that I have as a creative to not really be focused on like money or popularity or any of that. It's just, I just love to create and I love to be a part of the conversation. Like, you know, just add me in

there. So that's like, you always looking at the glass half full, half empty. I mean, it's like, what could I do? Even if some shit don't necessarily work or doesn't do it exactly what I want it to do, it's like, all right, that's a lesson. It's not a failure. It's like, what can I do to do better? You know what I mean? I'm not looking at 80 people around me like, you should have done this. It's like, well, what could I have done to make that shit a guarantee? You know what I'm saying?

And then just move it from there. When was the last time you spoke a blunt? I don't think it. It's been a long time. No, I'm not going to do that. Come back home? I'm not doing that. That's gross.

That's not home. Uka ain't taking him there, bro. Come back home for a second. Nowhere near home, man. Well, we all started with blunts. Yeah, I was full. I was getting tricked. I'm fucking with you.

I'm fucking with you. Fuck all that. That's terrible. I like weed. I enjoy weed. Yeah, there's weed, motherfucker. No, there's weed in it. It's wrapped in there somewhere.

That's the thing. It's a high-grade cigarette. That's the thing about growing up in the hood. They try to make it seem weird to hit bongs or joints and things like that. If you don't smoke weed. No, no, no, no. Like, oh, man, you smoke weed, dude. It's like, dog, I actually, like, care about weed.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, when you start to learn about weed, you don't want to smoke a blunt, bro, because that shit ruins the fucking actual pot, bro. To each his own. It ruins it. actual pot, bro. To each his own. It ruins it. To each his own. You're not even fully inexperienced in it. I don't smoke cigarettes no more. That's a cigarette.

It is tobacco, bro. Don't be on his side. It is tobacco. See, I'm a downer to like, you know what I'm saying? With the health facts and all that, I'll come through with them and niggas don't want to chill with me. I knew he waser to like, you know what I'm saying? Like with the health facts and all that. I'll come through with them and niggas don't want to chill with me. I knew he was going to be mad. When I saw that footage online, I said,

he's a tobacco racist. He's a purist when it comes to this. It's just not good for you, man. It ruins the weed. I'm not even saying anything that's not right. I'm just saying it. No, you're right. I actually agree with you. Yeah, that's all. But it tastes good as a motherfucker right now. You're addicted saying it. No, you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually agree with you. Yeah, that's all. Yeah. But it tastes good as a motherfucker right now. You're addicted to it.

Exactly. Yeah, you're hooked. He definitely won't want to smoke with Trick, then. That's a totally different thing. Trick Daddy? Yeah. I'm not smoking a blunt with Trick Daddy, but I'll chill with Trick Daddy all day. No, Trick is the chief.

Don't talk about smoking a blunt with him. That's my nigga. You got to smoke a blunt with him. I do, too. I ain't smoking daddy all day. Trick is a trick. Don't talk about smoking a blunt with him. You got to smoke a blunt with him. I ain't smoking with a thief. Now, trick is the best. You got to smoke a special blunt with a Miami blunt. I heard about that blunt. Don't smoke that.

I'm not saying that he's doing that, but I know what a Miami blunt is. No, it's a Miami blunt. This is a lot. Everybody's doing that. I don't know if you could call it a Miami blunt, but you could definitely call it a trick and a dirty blunt. No, in Miami, that was a thing. Yeah, that was a thing. That was a thing.

I feel like Miami outgrew that. I don't know, man. I still know a lot of people that still do that. I'm sorry, I don't be outside. I don't be outside. You can smell it. You can smell it. I don't be outside.

I'm sorry. I don't know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't be outside. So let me ask you. Jim Jones, a close friend of mine, said recently that being a rapper is a dangerous job. And I agree with him in his totality, but there's different versions of rappers, right? Yeah.

I imagine J. Cole could walk anywhere. Why you say that like Cole ain't with it? No, I'm not saying like Cole ain't with it. I can imagine. I'm just joking. I'm just talking shit. I can imagine J. Cole could go do his laundry

and like nobody might not try to get J. Cole, in my opinion. Actually, that probably wouldn't be true. It'd probably be less true. Listen, they probably won't even think it's J. Cole. Well, that part, yes. I see him chilling in New York City getting a prank. No one bothered him. Right.

In that sense, yeah. In that sense. But in fame, there's always dangers in any kind of fame. Preaching to the choir. Right. I agree with you. Do you think being a rapper is a dangerous job? Especially living in L.A., right?

Because they're saying that L.A. is one of the most dangerous places in the world for a rapper. Yeah. So I guess that's a two-part question. Well, I got a third part to that. J. Cole being able to go to the laundromat is a a rapper. Yeah. So I guess that's a two-part question. Well, I got a third part to that. J. Cole being able to go to the laundromat is a fucking blessing. Yes. It ain't as bad as you think.

No, no, that is a blessing. It's a blessing for him to be able to walk through the park and go enjoy getting a freaking glizzy and not get bothered. So shout out to J. Cole. More rappers need to do that. They love the glizzies over there.

He's trying to be funny. Good one. I'll get you back. Two-time glizzy for that. My whole thing about rappers being dangerous, it is very dangerous. You're a target. You know what I'm saying?

You're a target for somebody to get a name. A lot of people look at our profession and they're like, this nigga got it made. So they're like, you know, if you come through with a car, they're like, he paid $100,000 or $150,000 for that car.

You might not have paid $150,000 for that car. It might have been, you know what I mean? For real, you might have got a deal on that shit. You might be paying rent on that shit every month, you know what I mean? Or whatever your chain is, that shit. You might be paying rent on that shit every month.

Whatever your chain is. Your chain might be big as hell, but they just don't know qualities of diamonds. They just see that shit shining. They don't know how much it really costs. You just become a target for things that you have on. Somebody could get a name off of what they do to you. If I rob this person, they get a name off of that. That's automatic

when you become a rapper, or not a rapper, but just a personality, just somebody who's out there. So you just have more of a responsibility to calculate your moves, calculate who you're around, calculate the situation that you put yourself in. And the more you can avoid, the better off you are. Shit happens, you know what I'm saying?

So you have to be prepared and you have to be ready. And you got to be in the mind state to protect yourself and to protect your brand more than anything and not be risking it too much. Not reactive, right? Yeah, but at the end of the day, shit happens sometimes. You can never really... People are human.

Yeah, you can't plan everything. And like you said, J. Cole, he might not be a threatening artist, but he might have some crazy super fan. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. Famous issues in general. And people use being a fan as a reason to get to you, too.

They'll be like, hey, what's up? I love your music. And then flip it on some crazy shit. And then you're just being nice to, you know what I mean, a regular dude as a regular transaction. So it's very scary. You know what I mean? Like Eminem with Stan,

with the song Stan. It's talking about that. Like anybody could have a Stan. Right. Like even with you, like to be honest with you, like I said, I follow you.

So I see you in the gym every day. And then I see you leave the gym in a coupe. But then I realized, oh, someone's filming him. So he's not alone. No, I'm by myself. Oh, really? Yeah, for sure.

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Do you think avoiding some of this shit is like not having jewelry on and something like that? It's not having jewelry on, but it's who you know, honestly. Knowing your environment? It's who you know.

Like you have to be tapped in with the right types of people out there. And you have to be there for certain reasons. And for me, people know who I know and they know why I'm tapped in the way that I am. And yeah, I mean, there's a lot of different ways to go about it. But just being in L.A. and not being from L.A. You got to respect it. But people know what's real and what's fake. If you're just paying your way, as soon as that's up, your time is up.

If you have real respect from real people for real reasons, you got to put in that work and do those things. That's where I stand, and that's why I'm able to move the way that I move. You got to take the time to do that. And a lot of people skip those steps. You know what I'm saying? They just look at the important parts or the people who are there for them when they need them, and they don't really return that or just be normal when it's time to be normal. So it gets really Hollywood because it is Hollywood. But it's like that everywhere.

It's like that in Atlanta. It's like that out here. It's like that in New Orleans. It's like that in New York. It's like that in Atlanta. It's like that out here. It's like that in New Orleans. It's like that in New York. It's like that in Chicago. You get pressed any and everywhere. Everywhere, anywhere in the world. So you just got to stay tapped in with real ones and you got to put in that work,

the real type of work with the real ones and you'll be good. Honestly, that's what I learned. And really just pay attention to your environment and respect the environment you're in. Oftentimes people come from out of town thinking because they're from another place, they can come disrespecting another place. Yeah. And you just got to respect. There's a hood everywhere.

There's hoods everywhere. I mean, even if you respect, super respectful, and you're soft, like, niggas is going to try to press you. No, but I'm saying that's understanding your surroundings at that point. If you're soft, you understand where you're going as a soft person. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with being soft. Right. No, but I'm saying that's understanding your surroundings at that point. If you're soft, you understand where you're going as a soft person. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with being soft. Right. No, no.

You just got to be like, yo, all right, well, this nigga's soft. Don't play yourself. Exactly. Don't play yourself. Don't play yourself. Like, don't try to act hard. Right, right. Like, just be soft.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Don't just be soft. That's what- You'll get pressed to soft. Yeah. No, you're going to get pressed, but like, don't try to be hard when you get pressed. Right, don't put yourself in a situation you don't need to be in.

Exactly. Nah, I just do music, bro. You know what I'm saying? That's all I do, fam. Yeah. That's all the fuck I do. I do music, bro. All right.

There's nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with it. There's nothing wrong with that. Nope. Man, it's been a pleasure, man. Thank you. It really has been, man, because, like I said, I was happy to be a part of one of your first shows in New York. I didn't know there was your first show in New York.

I thought it was one of them. But I was happy to be a part of that. I was happy to see your growth. There's certain people that I see that I'm just like, man, I'm just so happy, man. You know what I mean? And that's real shit. It's like it takes nothing away from me to be happy for you yep it takes nothing away from me to give you your flowers it takes nothing away from me to show you how great you are and how

great you mean to this generation our generation and generations to the culture at large nothing away from me in fact i think it makes me more of a man Yeah, for sure To sit there and tell you How great you are Thank you, sir Because you are sincerely great And we love you And we love you But before we get up out of there

Thank you What's next? What's next for Wiz? Got an album coming out Whistlemania Whistlemania Yeah, yeah It's going to be

WrestleMania Will you be wrestling soon? No, I'm not. You got to get into it. Tag team. I will if they call me. I'm athletic enough and I can do flips and shit like that too. So what's good?

I feel like you got the meanest kick in hip hop. For real? I've been saying that this whole interview. I wasn't playing. I don't know if you noticed. I didn't laugh every time I spoke about your kick. Nah i sent you kicking my rib hurt i said oh shit they're getting better too i appreciate it that's because you hardened that area yeah that's just a brick that shin yeah for real thank you um yeah so whistle mania is dropping uh it's a new album

full full length all bangers I'm really excited I got Really good features On there Everything is pretty much Locked in Independent? Independent

Yeah Who's going to ask you That question Independent or major? Yeah What do you prefer? I prefer being independent But doing deals

Like exclusively You know what I'm saying? So if you're going to do Yeah Like you license your project You license your project Because a lot of people Don't know like music isn't really owned by the labels like there's a lot of private companies and a lot of investors who will invest way more in a project than a record label right i'm talking about way more like and if you can lock yourself

into one of those deals you're're going to get some cheese. Wait, can you school us a little bit on that? Because I've never heard much of that. I don't want to go too deep into it. Just the surface of it. Just generic. I just said it. Private investors, way more.

Like Wu-Tang? No. No, no, no. Because that album never got released. What's up, fool? What's up, bro? No, because that album was like one person owned it this one is like they're buying staff like radio they're pushing it they're promoting it and you get like millions of dollars up front yeah but is that is that

exclusive to someone like you who already has a track no no no it's if it's accessible to any indie if it's worth money it's gonna sell you can lock in a deal and you can find a company that is not a major record label that will invest money then that's all they do is invest and you'll get right hey we need to hell yeah and it's crazy because it just invest They don't know shit about music So you run everything Like hedge funds? See I'm trying to dig for the answers here I believe Busta Rhymes did that

He was the first person that had an album on Google You know all these people who are selling I get it but when you're saying Busta Rhymes You're saying Wiz Khalifa I'm asking for the average artist That's trying to not go to the major label route, get funding. Is that something that they can access or is it only a

Busta Rhymes and a Wiz Khalifa? Anybody can access it because these private companies are investing in what's making money. So if it's valuable, if you can go on tour, if you can sell merch, if you can sell records, if you have streaming, if you're monetized, if you have a video that's doing

certain millions of views and it's guaranteed to make a certain amount of money, they're going to invest a certain amount of money to grow the project. Whatever this project is, it could be for an amount of time or it could be for the single project. Me or Busta Rhymes, we'll probably just do like a one-off because we've already been through so many major label deals or things like that. But somebody else can be in their basement and somebody can be like, yo, I see the potential and you're growing. Here's $220 million.

$220 million, you said? Yep. Someone in the basement? Yeah. Man, we didn't... See, you don't want to talk about it, but I need to talk about this.

You ain't trying to end up having investors, bro. Huh? Nah, I'm ready to go for a Cuban Cuban goodbye And there's no You can't point anybody In any direction right now

Cause Not right now I'll holler at you Yeah I'll see y'all next drink champs When I'm When I'm floating in this motherfucker Everything on me is

Fucking gold and shit. Remember that private investor I told you about? From Beijing? Yeah, yeah. I got to wait. Okay, we'll wait for it to be continued. Yeah, we'll give it a little game. Okay.

Okay, so we got the businesses. We got the investments. We got the career. We got the acting. What got the career. We got the acting. What is left for you to do? I'm having a great time raising my kid, bro. That's fucking awesome. Yeah, that's great.

That's amazing. That's the best part of it all. That's what brings it all together. That's what really is, you know, my favorite thing. He's 10 now, so I'm just looking forward to the next, you know. And it went by like that, right? Oh man, it went by so fast. And to think that

in another 10 years he's going to be 20 years old. So it's like, I got to, I'm in there. Like, you know what I'm saying? I've already been in there, but it's like,

yeah, it's like really, really important. Like, you know, like 12, 14, all of that. Just, you know, yeah, yeah. That's my little man.

So that's my, that's my job. That's my, that's my main focus is, you know, yeah, yeah. That's my little man. So that's my job. That's my main focus is, you know, family, just structure, just keeping him right. His little personality is so wild. So it's like, you know, he needs that gathering that I got for him. But, yeah, it's fun, man. I love being a dad. I love showing up for him.

I want to have more kids. Yeah, man. That's the goal right now? Yeah, I think like the career stuff. Yeah, the career stuff is... Not like Nick Cannon. It's like... No, no, no, not like that.

I mean, if that's the vibe. If it's in the cards, right. Whatever the vibe is, but it's like the career thing is... I've been doing that for a long ass time. It's like structure and family

and making memories and fucking getting a lake house and going out on the boat and riding jet skis. Like, that's the type of shit that I look forward to. Like, you know what I'm saying? So, I'm setting all that stuff up.

Well, god damn it, man. Hell yeah. Wiz, man, thank you so much, man, for coming through here. Well, God damn it, man. Hell yeah. Wiz, man, thank you so much, man, for coming through here. We wanted to give you your flowers. You deserve them. You're a real one. This is for legends, this platform. This is for people who have been here and we think that's going to continue to be here.

And you are definitely one of them. Since we started this show, I've been reaching out to you because... You have. I've been reaching out to you because... I probably never said this to you, but you're one of my favorites. Thank you. You know what I'm saying? Because if I'm having a bad time, I can go to a Wiz playlist, and something's going to come on that's going to make me either...

Or it's going to make me happy. That's what it's all about. And that's what's up. You know what I'm saying? That's why I fucked with Pharrell in the beginning because that's really what street people

or people from the streets is. We're really happy people on the low. We just was mad because of our condition, our situation. Yeah. And I had to give you flowers.

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