Drink Champs - Episode 361 w/ Kiss Café Coffee (Jadakiss, Bob and Jaewon Phillips)

Episode Date: April 28, 2023

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the Champs chop it up with Jadakiss, Bob and Jaewon Phillips of Kiss Café Coffee!The Phillips family (Jada, Bob and Jaewon) created Kiss Ca...fé with honesty and accessibility, as coffee has been an important part of the Phillips family since 1977. Proudly grounded in heritage, Kiss Café offers premium coffee, uniquely blended and produced with legacy and quality in mind. Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise !!! ☕️☕️☕️ 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com  Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps  DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions  N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreaga  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:33 Now, this guest, he brung the crew with him this time, but this guest has probably been on Drink Champs. I don't think no other artist has been on Drink Champs more than me and you. He's more than alumni He's my friend He's co-host I almost don't ever want to call him Because he don't ever tell me no Like he's always there for me And he's a great person
Starting point is 00:02:57 He's there with the person who raised him He's here with the person that he's raising Incredible A business partner, a couple of them. He's one of the most honorable men I've ever met in life. Not just hip-hop. In life. One of the people
Starting point is 00:03:15 I could talk to. You know what I mean? And hand for hand, undefeated. In battles, undefeated in war, and undefeated in versus for sure. In case you don't know what we're talking about, we're talking about the one and only Kiss Cat fucking Cash. You know, Kiss, I'm going to start with you.
Starting point is 00:03:46 One of the things that I noticed when y'all was going through the verses thing, right, was I called you, like, I might have called you Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday. And y'all was at rehearsal every single time. A lot of people didn't realize, like, that shit was impressive to me because, by the way, I'm attached to Dipset as well as I'm attached to the locks.
Starting point is 00:04:15 So it was really like I had no dog in the fight, but I wanted to know what dogs was going to fight. Like, I was being nosy. I called Cam, I called Jim, I called... And the only difference I can say between them and you guys was you was really taking it serious. You was in the SIR.
Starting point is 00:04:34 I believe that's what it's called? SIR studio. The SIR studio. So, why did y'all take that approach? I think just... We got to give a shout out to Puff for that. He made us know that rehearsing is dead. Always rehearse no matter the caliber of, you know what I mean? When you're stepping on any of them kind of stages, make sure you get it in for appropriate amount of rehearsals. Every time we ever went on tour, any TV appearance, anything with him,
Starting point is 00:05:08 it was always a nice, significant amount of rehearsals. And that's something that we just always adopted and made sure that we did to give our best performances whenever we was in front of people. And then you got the Garden, the Mecca of, you know, the world's greatest arena, the Mecca of hip-hop. You were at NYC in front of your peers, you know, the hardest critics in the world from New York.
Starting point is 00:05:38 So you just want to leave no loopholes for no mistakes. And we just try to do that by doing the rehearsals. All right. loopholes for no mistakes and we just try to do that by doing the rehearsals. No, because I myself, being an artist and knowing sometimes I like, I'll skip the rehearsal. I'll skip the sound check.
Starting point is 00:05:56 You skip every sound check. I skip the sound checks. But the crazy thing is, I believe Akanele taught me two good things. He said, if the sound sounds good at soundcheck, it's going to sound good at the such and such.
Starting point is 00:06:15 But if it doesn't sound good at soundcheck, it's going to sound bad at the such and such. So that was something that really resonated with me because it's like, all right, cool. I want to be prepared. I want to... Pops, you got a ringtone? Turn that off.
Starting point is 00:06:32 You out of line, Pops. You got a ringtone? Yo! Yo! Yo, what? Yo, what's going on? Pop a kiss. Yo, what's going on? Papa Kiss. Yo, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:06:45 I'm old school, man. I heard the ringtone. How you work that out, though? You used to send somebody to check it out? He did. Butch Rock would usually... Butch Rock, by the way, for all the DJs out there. What's your DJ name?
Starting point is 00:07:01 Tech. Tech. Tech. Well, Butch Rock was the only filipino asian kid that will walk in wherever we at and just do the sound check and be like yo we gotta do this we can't fuck with this mic we can't do that and um and then he would tell me because i gotta i got a different catalog of music meaning i have reggagaeton, I got hardcore hip-hop, and then I got party hip-hop. So in order for me to know better what I'm going to do, I needed somebody to go in there, and Butch Rock would volunteer to do that.
Starting point is 00:07:36 That was fun. You know what I'm saying? But let's get back to the first, because I don't want to get into it. So, like like I remember me calling you and I remember you being so hype I remember you being like it's going down and out and I'm like kiss what's up you're like man it's going down tune into the funeral you remember saying that? I don't remember saying that. Your face says it all, my brother.
Starting point is 00:08:08 But in a respectful way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. But at that, I just want to get this knocked out the way because y'all was probably the two biggest New York groups at the time and I can remember one part of the verses where you just blacked out I don't know if you was there I don't know if he was in Mars but you said nigga I don't go I live right here.
Starting point is 00:08:46 You come see me on my block. And I looked and I said, this is over. Your chuck started to light up. It was like, was that something you planned or that's something that just. No, no, that just being a moment energy. I mean, that was just, that was just happening. That wasn't, that part wasn't rehears wasn't rehearsed for me to say that. For you? That just came, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:10 That just came. He was like, I live here now. I said, damn, I almost thought he went at me. He said, I don't live in Miami. I said, oh, bitch. This nigga came at me, too. I ain't got nothing to do with this shit. Get some out of here.
Starting point is 00:09:25 But that was legendary, man. I also, and then I'm going to change the subject. I also seen Jim Jones say that he wanted a rematch. Why you laughing? I don't think that could happen. Yeah. I don't want to do no more verses anyway, man. I'm tired of verses. I don't know. I don't think that could happen. Yeah. I don't want to do no more verses anyway, man. I'm tired of verses.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Yeah. I love it. I would love to see some more iconic verses, but I ain't going to keep going up there doing these damn verses. Nah, nah, nah. I am. You two for two. Two and oh. Two and oh. That You two for two. Two and oh.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Two and oh. That's what I meant. Two and oh. That's what I meant. That's what I meant. Get it right. And now I'm two and oh, baby. Two and oh.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Two and oh. And retiring. Because three is everyone's lucky number. So would you do... Three is the charm. Three is the charm. What would you do? I mean, if I was to do it, I wouldn't do a rematch against nobody from the team.
Starting point is 00:10:25 You'd do somebody else? Yeah, maybe another opponent. Because I still got a nice clip that I didn't, you know. There's still something left in the clip, you know what I mean? It's a nice clip. Maybe a two-man? A two-man up? That would be nice, too.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Yeah, OK. That would also be nice. But I really ain't trying to go too. Yeah. I'd also be nice. All right. But I really ain't trying to go there. Yeah. You want to drink? I'm going to drink coffee, baby. You going to drink something? Yeah, I'm going to drink.
Starting point is 00:10:50 What you drinking? We're doing a whiskey today. We're going to drink something. Deleon. That's Deleon we're drinking. Deleon, excuse me. We are drinking Deleon. We're doing a Deleon party.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Deleon. Deleon. Deleon. So tell us about this coffee. How did y'all get started? What was this about? This is generational. I love that.
Starting point is 00:11:11 You know, my dad raised me in coffee. He's been working in coffee since I think like 1977. I was born in 1977. Exactly. Oh. That's what I know. That's what I know. That's what I know. That's what I know. How you got started?
Starting point is 00:11:28 Yeah. No, I've been working with coffee probably since he was born, around the time that he was born. I don't think the year he was born. He's a year or so older than you, by the way. Okay, yeah. We ain't going to talk about that. Okay. But anyway, I've been working in that field for quite a few years, more than 40 years.
Starting point is 00:11:50 And that's how I supported my family, being one of the breadwinners in the family. I worked in coffee, not knowing that we would do something in coffee 40 years later. But, you know, that was my means of support. And I'm at what you would, I would think is the retirement age. And you, every father, you were just talking about your parental situation, which we won't get into, but every father would like to see his son follow in their footsteps or either have something that you can pass on to the next generation or whatever. And that his career was probably better than mine at the time that he was of age.
Starting point is 00:12:31 I mean, that was out as far as him. But my grandson here, when he graduated from college, he's a graduate of Clark University. You raised, you raised, you raised, you raised, you raised, because we heard Jada gets into private school and everything. We heard all that. We're like, where it at? We don't, we don't suppose to talk about that. We are proud of that over here. Over here, we proud of that. That's real shit. And the grandson, too. Goddamn, he's a little proud, too. But, you know, when he graduated, I thought he would join the firm. I have a commodities trading business where I trade coffee. Wow. The futures and options and derivatives and physical coffee as well. But we thought that he would join us when he got out of school, but come to find out when he wanted no part of what I was doing,
Starting point is 00:13:29 that was sort of unconventional for him. He was sitting at a desk. Oh. At a desk. Oh, having a job. No, having a job, yeah, but sitting at a desk and just. Okay. So that didn't fit with him, but I had thought from many years ago
Starting point is 00:13:48 that there's no hip-hop, there was no hip-hop presence, and coffee is the second most widely consumed commodity in the world behind crude oil. So just imagine that. It's traded like stocks. Crude oil is number one. Coffee is number two. What's number one? Crude oil. So just imagine that. It's traded like stocks.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Crude oil is number one. Coffee is number two. What's number one? Crude oil. Oil. Oil, crude oil, which makes a lot of stuff. Right. So coffee is number two to oil in terms of import value. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:14:20 It was the second most consumed beverage in the world. I think it was most recently surpassed by tea or something like that because there's a lot of tea drinking in it. What was the first one? Water. I mean, traded. I'm thinking traded. No, no, but I'm saying, no, we're talking about consumed beverage. So, I mean, it's a product that just transcends all generations, all everything.
Starting point is 00:14:42 So, we had thought about getting into, you know, that, again, we wanted to bring him into the business. He didn't want to know anything about that. But when that versus thing, when he did the first versus with Fab. I was jaded drunk. Yeah, they were doing the jaded drunk. I was so proud of you. My grandkids was calling him.
Starting point is 00:15:02 What was the dance he was doing? He was throwing his grandkids over their crib, showing them the verses. He was looking at the comments, you know, the live comments. Like, yo, get some water. Get him some coffee or something. Yeah, they were saying, Jada's drunk. The light bulb went off. Yeah, he called me.
Starting point is 00:15:18 He had another idea. And they were selling Jada drunk merchandise and doing all kinds of stuff. So we had thought about bringing them into the coffee, but the timing just never clicked. And there were some other things that we didn't have our marketing team together and our shit together, so to speak, in that regard. But when that came out, I'm saying, you know, I felt this is the right time, you know, with drunk and coffee. You know, everybody say if you're drunk, you got a hangover. Yeah, you get some coffee. A cup of coffee or whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:48 But then when we thought, when we really took a deep dive into that, we didn't want to do with the negative, you know, drunk and that whole thing. I didn't want to be associated with a product that had that negative connotation about the drinking and all the whiskey and the drinking. But, you know, coffee is a beverage for everybody. And I had been telling him, you know, there's no hip-hop presence in coffee. It's true. Yeah, he'll yes you to death.
Starting point is 00:16:15 You know him if you know him. Yeah, yeah. You know how he yes you to death. But he says, yeah, let's do it. But I'm saying, no, let's do it right. And if we're going to do it, let's get somebody that knows something about marketing and branding, and a few names came up, but we settled on the team that we got now.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Compound. Compound. Set free. Free. And I don't know if the camera's over there on the brains behind the outfit, but I think, I hope you get a shot of the real brains behind the outfit.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Yes. And he says, I got some people that can do this. And we came in and we brainstormed and we came up with a plan. After the second versus. After the second versus. After the dip set won nothing, we said we're going to push the button. This is three years in the making. This is not something that we thought about last week.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I've been trying to retire for the last three years. Get your feet up there and retire. He can go ahead and retire. But we're hoping that we can get everybody up to speed and let them live. We're trying to groom him where he can take care of this thing and take it to that next level that we know that they can do. So instantly I noticed that this is expensive coffee, right? Because I'm used to it.
Starting point is 00:17:33 The bag looks beautiful. Your bag is beautiful. This looks like Zaza. This looks like Zaza. It's an award-winning bag. Award-winning bag? We got to make some noise for that. So it's award-winning so I'm in bag So off top cuz I'm not I'm a new coffee drinker But I'm like the coffee God that gets a little Dunkin Donuts things and put it in there and
Starting point is 00:18:00 Cups to be in next week. Oh, we got kiss cups? Yeah. I was asking for it. I was asking for kiss cups. I did it. Yeah, because I'm an instant coffee. Like, I'll go put this shit on, go brush my teeth, come back, get my shit, and that's it. That's it. Because look at my milk. Look at my milk.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Look at it. I brought my milk. I was ready to get down today. I was ready to get down. Look, this is my milk. Look, look, look. Oh, this is my lactose intolerant. Yeah, so lactose intolerant. So I'm lactose intolerant.
Starting point is 00:18:26 So this is my shit. I don't know, coffee mate, if you're going to cut me a check or something, get some Nori. Yeah, let's talk coffee mate. Holla at us, man. I'm sorry, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:18:33 baby. Yo, that's what type of deals you're going to make now. Like, with Nestle, Quick, and shit like that. Like, imagine. So this is black-owned
Starting point is 00:18:43 independent right now, right? Black-owned. right now, right? It's us. You're looking at it. 100%. So if Hershey's came today and said, Hershey's Kiss Coffee, that shit sound good. Sound like money to me. Hershey's Kiss Coffee.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Hershey, I killed that guy. I killed that guy. Sometimes I'm smart, dude. But if Hershey's was to come, you could say, I could get down with y'all. We don't got to talk to nobody. We can talk right here and do the deal. There's nobody, you know, 100% on. No, this is 100% in this room here.
Starting point is 00:19:21 That's beautiful. And depending on the deal. Me? No, not Mr. Lee. Get Mr. Lee out room here. That's beautiful. And depending on the deal, which, no, not Mr. Lee. Get Mr. Lee out of here. But depending on the deal, would y'all sell it or partner up?
Starting point is 00:19:33 Partner. Partner. Partner. We wouldn't be black-holed if we didn't. We think about partnering up. Or, you know, would you sell your child?
Starting point is 00:19:40 No, I'm not. Exactly. So, I mean, this is a... I see him over here somewhere. This is a label club. My son over here. I got my son working on the statue. So, I mean, this is a... I see him over here somewhere. This is a label club. My son over here. I got my son working on the statue. He's very passionate about this.
Starting point is 00:19:50 No, we're in it for real. You know, this ain't a money grab like you hear him say on a few interviews. This ain't about trying to get the money. And there's a lot of celebrities. And that was another reason that drove us into this product, right? You got people with... Liquor. Liquor. You got people with liquor, with champagne, with
Starting point is 00:20:08 vodka, with tequila, with... Which we love. Which we love. But there's room for everybody in all these products, right? And what's crazy about it What's crazy about it as I throw to you right back here
Starting point is 00:20:23 is you actually have no competition. Oh yeah, there's a few. No, I mean, Starbucks, Dunkin'. Niggas ain't going, niggas is fucking with kids over Starbucks. I'm being honest. If I'm somewhere, if I'm in Arizona, and I know Jadakiss
Starting point is 00:20:40 got a motherfucking coffee spot, I'll fuck Starbucks. And this couldn't be in Starbucks? Fuck Dunkin' Donuts. No, what we want to do one day, and, you know, and it's, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:50 it's like Martin Luther King says, you know, I might not get there with you, but I might not be there when it happens, but hopefully one day we would like to franchise and partner up
Starting point is 00:20:58 and have brick and mortar kids' cafes. I mean, that's the ultimate goal. That's what we're going to do. I can see that happening. That's the ultimate goal. I can see what we're going to do. I can see that happening. That's the ultimate goal. Yo, but you know what's crazy? I can actually see KISS cafes.
Starting point is 00:21:12 No doubt. I can actually see it. You haven't seen them, man. It doesn't seem far-fetched to me. It doesn't seem far. And you know what's crazy? I'm going to tell you what's crazy. I see the first one opening up in San Fran, not even in Yonkers.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Somewhere in Seattle. You're like, oh shit, why are they opening over there? You know what I'm saying? That's what I see, bro, because to take a Biggie line, hip-hop really made it that far. Like, it really, like, I literally, I literally, me personally,
Starting point is 00:21:50 I literally can't go nowhere. Because everywhere I go, they know who the fuck I am. I can't take a shit in public at all. It's over. It's over. It's over. It's over, my nigga.
Starting point is 00:22:03 But that's good. Hip-hop is everywhere. It's a, my nigga. But that's good. Hip-hop is everywhere. It's a beautiful thing. Just looking at this platform that y'all got, this thing that y'all doing, it's so beautiful. You being the youngest, they coming to you and saying, yo, we want you to be a part of this empire. You saying you didn't want the job. You didn't like to be in the office. Nah, I didn't like being in the office,
Starting point is 00:22:26 but when it came to this, I was all on board. Yeah. Who don't want to start a family business? Right. Not many of us got a father or grandfather. They have both in Doosan. And not even that it was so much
Starting point is 00:22:36 of the father or grandfather. It was like he's... It's his generation, you know? The social media aspect of it. And that's where I'm, you know, like Clint Eastwood says, man's got to know his limitations. I'm weak in that area because I'm not from that generation. So, I mean, in order for us to do what we need to do, we need some strength and presence in the social media aspect and the new branding because the whole marketing thing has flipped since I studied it in school 100 years ago. So it's a whole different.
Starting point is 00:23:14 And we can attribute that to the hip-hop, the hip-hop culture. I mean, hip-hop has flipped the script for the whole. We can attribute all this to hip hop, you know, everything that we're doing. So we don't want to be slack and not giving credit where it's due because without hip hop, we wouldn't be sitting here.
Starting point is 00:23:36 None of us would be sitting here doing what we're doing now. And we wouldn't even have a chance of launching a brand or launching a product that had any chance in hell of succeeding, but we can do that now because of hip-hop. Make some noise for him.
Starting point is 00:23:50 That's beautiful. So now, where is the beans from? Cause, who is it, Columbia? I was about to say, where are the sources? Central and South America. Okay, you niggas going Columbia. You're going to get that. That's the secret sauce.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Yeah, y'all going to get that cocaine for real. I could tell you, but we'd have to kill you if we did. I like it. I like it. No, it's a blend of coffees from Central America and South America. And it's not what we, by what some coffee snobs would call an exotic blend. Because coffee's like wine. You got some people that think you got to have coffee that makes you flip every time you drink it or whatever.
Starting point is 00:24:29 But then you got some people that just like coffee for what it is. Coffee is an individual thing, and that's the whole beauty of coffee. What I like don't mean that you like it or whatever. And that's the whole beauty of life, really, because we're all individuals and all different people, so we can all enjoy what we enjoy and not like what we don't like, so, you know. It's a beautiful thing, man. Who was that ex that said, do you, what was that? That's right.
Starting point is 00:24:57 God damn it. It's Tyler. Tyler. Yo, yo, y'all. What up, y'all? So this is the Viejo. Is there another one, another name for another one? No, we're, uh, Viejo is, uh, yo, yo. What up, y'all? So this is the viejo. Is there another one, another name for another one? No, we're, uh, bejo is.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Wait, viejo is. Is this viejo or bejo? Bejo. That's the Portuguese. Oh, bejo. Bejo. That's Portuguese. It's a heart.
Starting point is 00:25:15 No, it's a heart, J. It means kiss. No, it's bejo. Instead of bejo. Portuguese for kiss? Yeah, it's Spanish. It's bejo. Portuguese, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:21 But in Portuguese. I was reading it like, oh, it's viejo's old man. No, bejo, it's a heart's old man. No, beijo. It's a heart J in Portuguese. Beijo. Yeah, which means kiss. What's up? Why y'all looking like
Starting point is 00:25:30 y'all bringing out coffee in a Rolex box? I have a gift for you. Oh, that's the gift. Oh. It don't got the K-cups in it, but this is your special... Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Okay. This is your special gift. Shit. Damn. Bro, I... I'm bringing this to the crib. Yeah, bring that to the crib. I'm bringing this to the crib. Yeah, bring that to the crib. I'm bringing this to the crib.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Ooh. Turn on. This is all laughing out. I'm getting drunk over coffee later. I'll end. Thank y'all. Thank y'all. Thank y'all.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Come on, bro. We're sitting here. Yeah. Put that away from me, y'all. Put that under my whip. This thing that Khaled like, right? Here's your coasters. That's the coasters?
Starting point is 00:26:03 Amethyst. Yeah. Yeah. Because you know I'll be fucking up. Like, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pearl coasters. So, okay. All right. We established, got the coffee.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Is this, how are we getting this in bodegas? How are we getting this in, yeah, like, What is the ultimate goal? Is it to be everywhere? We got some deals on the table for some hotel deals. Airlines. Airlines. Some restaurants. Restaurants.
Starting point is 00:26:39 It's important that we're scaling this in the right way you know we want to scale up but we don't want to just put it with everybody I mean because some people
Starting point is 00:26:52 don't treat your product the way it needs to be treated so you don't want to go into a place that a guy's had coffee in one of these little bodegas
Starting point is 00:26:58 he's been sitting there for four hours on that burner and it tastes like mud and they say this coffee sucks it ain't the coffee, it's how he's treating the coffee.
Starting point is 00:27:07 It was specialized in freshness. I always say it's better to be in Costco's ain't shit. To be in Costco's in the back of Costco's behind the tires, no one gives a fuck. You want to be in Costco's when the lady with the no teeth is saying
Starting point is 00:27:24 hello and then your product is right behind her. You know what I'm saying? That's where you want to be for real. We want to get it to the people, to the masses. We want to get it to people that's going to enjoy it. We tried to price it where it's a premium blend, a good blend, but we could have come out with a product that was $50 a pound, but that's not the audience that we were shooting for. If you know him, his persona as a performer and as a person, which you were just commenting on, he's very accessible as a person. He's a man of the people.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I mean, he took me to a basketball game a couple weeks ago, him and Free. And, you know, he sat there and he signed autographs for an hour and a half after the game for people. Very humble guy. And that's what, you know, accessible. And that's what we tried to make a product that we thought was, that we wanted to do that's accessible to
Starting point is 00:28:17 the majority of the people. I know some people would say it's too expensive, but if it was given away, some people would say it was too expensive. But let me ask you something, because I remember jay-z right i remember jay-z um being offended about my chris style right and he told me this story personally how he purchased this so i'm not going to actually get into details of that but what i what i will say is this once we said said he's not fucking with chris, the reason why we fucked with this was because it was,
Starting point is 00:28:48 it wasn't at, it was like, this was $400, $500. A bottle. A bottle. Right. So the average hood dude wasn't getting it.
Starting point is 00:28:57 So the reason why this was so attractive was because it was accessible. It wasn't accessible. It wasn't, it was not that accessible you wanted most.
Starting point is 00:29:05 They wanted, people want stuff that you tell them they can't... Like, to me, Balenciaga is not hard. Balenciaga is just... It's just you can't average a 17-year-old a $1,700 shirt. You're like, oh, shit. This nigga ain't going to have a $1,700 shirt. But, everybody
Starting point is 00:29:21 getting money now. Everybody got the $1,700 shirt. That's where they get it. In the market. I was talking to Mike. When you look at Kiss Cafe, that was the reason, like, you can look at this bag and it look like it's in the ward office store. Yes. It look like it's in, like, the Lowe's. So we want Kiss Cafe to be for the people, but we're going to have elevated.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Love value. Yes. Even from the branding to the logos. And then I think one of the most important things that's just as powerful as the product is the story of three black men. And you know, when you break the logo down, the three beans represents each one of them on the bag. So it's like, you know, especially right now
Starting point is 00:29:57 with families and black men. Clap it up for the logo. That's all right. That's all right. That's all right. Go ahead, man. Nigga drop some body science on us. Let's go. Go ahead, man. Nigga drop some, nigga drop some body science on us. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Go ahead. It's like a lot of those things that, you know, when Kiss came to me, like, besides me and Kiss knowing each other through the music and hip hop, but when a man acts as, especially another black man, communication is like, that's not what we do in our community.
Starting point is 00:30:21 So when Kiss asked me to be a part of his family, and I just lost my father, and then Kiss came, it was like, you know, I asked me to be a part of his family, I just lost my father and then Kiss came and was like, you know, I want you to be a part of this with me and my family. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:30 that to me, just as much as the coffee, it's the story of them three because that's what's going to empower the world and see if they can do it, I can do it, and let me support the brand
Starting point is 00:30:40 and buy some coffee. Creating legacy. And by the way, there's no more beautiful stance I've ever seen. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you know, father, father, and a son,
Starting point is 00:30:51 like that shit is just so beautiful. Like, I want to help support that. I want to do it. I didn't even drink coffee. I was ready to get lactose intolerant. I was like, I'm in. I got the milk.
Starting point is 00:31:01 I got everything. I'm just being honest. I'm just being honest. Because, yeah. Huh? Expresso martinis. I got everything. I'm just being honest. He said, I really lack toast. Yeah. Huh? Espresso martinis. I've been... Are we getting
Starting point is 00:31:09 a kiss espresso martinis? We can serve you. Yes. Everything. Candles. Candles? Everything. We coming with that
Starting point is 00:31:16 $1,700 shirt, too. Okay, yeah. I'm going to buy it, too. I'm going to buy it. If I buy from this Yaga, I'm buying a kiss of Yaga. Come on. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. Yaga. I'm a buy it. If I buy Felicia Yaga, I'm buying Kiss of Yaga. Come on. Yaga.
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Starting point is 00:34:42 understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What got you into being in the fashion? Movies. Movies?
Starting point is 00:35:03 Yeah, because, you know, like for me, for me and my brother probably just go left with this You know growing up. We always looked at just hip-hop to learn how to dress from you know break dancers to me break Dancers started the trend they was the ones with the shell toes this Puma sweatsuits and then running them like spikes though Too much too much with it all of all far the artists You know came what that was like, but then, The B-Boys. The B-Boys,
Starting point is 00:35:28 but then if you watch Godfather and you watch Heat, I thought like Robert De Niro when they had their suits on always was like, yo, why gangsters be running around the street
Starting point is 00:35:34 all tailored? It was like, so, you know what I mean? It's a fact. Gangsters had the tailored. I was like,
Starting point is 00:35:40 yo, we in the hood beefing in jeans and sweatsuits and these niggas is really laying niggas down and like, today's men. It's a fact. So I was like, yo, we in the hood beefing in jeans and sweatsuits. These niggas is really laying niggas down in like Today's Man.
Starting point is 00:35:47 It's a fact. It's bad funny, though. So it was that part. And then I'm a big Star Wars fan. So way before Balenciaga and all these brands had the big hoodie and the big ponchos, I was like, yo, if I could ever wear drip from certain things in Star Wars, even when like Ye started making a lot of powder. Like Jedi's and shit. Jedi. So it started making a lot of powder. Like Jedi.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Jedi. So it's like... The black Jedi. The black... So for movies, movies look like... Because growing up, some people only looked at hip-hop for the trend on how we want to live.
Starting point is 00:36:15 But me, it was all these different styles of movies that influenced me on clothing. I don't know no actors that dress like you, though. There's a couple movies together. He's a mixtape. That's a fact. No, because, you know, that's something that's so important in hip-hop.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Like me, I'm glad I am not the guy that they're going to look at to be in the next GQ. But you know, it was crazy. You had one of the lines, my favorite lines, and it actually influenced my collab. It was like, Caesar, waves bringing, brown wallabies. That's right. And I was like, you know, like you wearing wallies and queens and like with the camos and Nas.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Yeah. It was way different than Staten Island. Oh, you bigging me up. Okay, bitch me up. Bitch me up. Bitch me up. Bitch me up. I deserve it.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I deserve it. Bitch me up. You know, to me, you did have a style. No, no, but I agree with you. But what I mean is, like, when I think of fashion, and this is with all due respect, I think of, like, people like Nas, Nas, Ye, Jim Jones, Fab.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Like, I could call Fab one day. I was like, you got to fall off. And he's like, what? I said, you can I could call Fab one day. I was like, you got to fall off. And he's like, what? I said, you can't just be dipped every day. You got to have a bad day. You got to have a regular rain outfit. Have a bad day, Fab. Then I called, because I know I'm a hater.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I called Nas. I told him the same shit. I said, you got to fall off. You got to stop. You can't just be. I'm playing around, obviously. But I'm not the guy that is waking up on Easter.
Starting point is 00:37:48 You know what I'm saying? Matching outfits together. My outfit designs the day before. Like, I'm not that guy, but I also appreciate that, though. Like, I also, like... Like, my brother Fat Joe, when they fried him,
Starting point is 00:38:01 like, every time Fat Joe... Because Fat Joe be trying some shit. And... It don't always work out for him you know what I'm saying but when it don't work out for him I'm like I'm laughing but then when he pull off some shit I be like oh okay it's safe for me to try but
Starting point is 00:38:18 he said it's safe for me to try yeah because you know you let him go out on a limb first we old niggas like He said it's safe for me Yeah because You know You let him go out On a limb first Yeah because We old niggas You gotta touch We old niggas Yeah listen
Starting point is 00:38:28 Kiss Simon's gonna Fry us on the ground He gonna But it's Like y'all got fans That follow What y'all wearing If y'all
Starting point is 00:38:37 Away from what Everybody else is wearing Just because they y'all fans Yeah but we So it's really like Who you think is It's your preference Yeah Everybody do I wore a little bit Too. So it's really like, who do you think is? It's your preference. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Everybody do. I wore a little bit too much Carhartt at one point. But did you? Nah, see, that's what I'm saying. Now Carhartt is
Starting point is 00:38:52 doing collabs with Marnie. Now Carhartt is exclusive. Yeah. Cards with, doing collabs with Marnie. Oh, Marnie? What? They got Marnie.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Where the fuck Carhartt was at? But he ain't calling me. I take back what you just said. You know how much shit I was getting through when we were in Carhartt Suspenders? He ain't calling me. I take back what you just said. You know how much shit I was getting through when we were in Carl Hart's suspenders? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Jesus. Jesus. Ah. How the fuck do I do it? Yo, Carl Hart got a fucking collection. He's serious. What? Where I been at, man?
Starting point is 00:39:20 Carl Hart is in Brooklyn. Carl Hart's official. Where I been at, man? Jesus. Holy moly guacamole. What are you drinking, EF, man? Jesus. Holy moly guacamole. What are you drinking, EF, man? The Nasty. That looks like water.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Oh, drink it. No? No. I've learned. I've learned. But you still drink the... Flor de Gaña now. Yeah, you know, they make this...
Starting point is 00:39:40 No, this is not my marijuana, bro. You switch from your... Yeah, you switch. That's what I'm used to. I'm drinking rum right now, yeah. Okay. But they make it in this is not this is not my mojana you switch yeah you switch that's what I'm used to I'm drinking rum right now yeah okay but they make it in a tub
Starting point is 00:39:48 and can do no this is Nicaraguan rum this is not my mojana yes in my mind that too they make it in a tub and can do
Starting point is 00:39:55 no man he says that and the dude that makes it is like why do you keep saying that I love him I thought I was making commercials when you make it in the tub
Starting point is 00:40:01 yes yes yeah cause that's how that's how Nutcrackers was made. You know that, right? In the tub? Yeah, you know? Nutcrackers.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Every damn thing in the tub. Yeah. Nutcrackers was made in the tub. Yeah, they put everything together. You know the original maker? Huh? No, I heard the story, though. But they said, no, they said that they actually put it all in the tub.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Somebody made it in the tub. And then bottled them up. And then bottled them it in the tub. And then put them in the tub. And then bottle them up. And then bottle them up with a tub. And whose tub? Yeah, look. See, look. Look, look.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah. The whole Depot trash can with the trash bag. By the way, Nutcracker is just a gel drink anyway. I don't know if y'all knew that. Like, this is a quarter water foul drink. That's insane. For a name from a gel drink. What about the Nemo's? The Nemo's. That's the same thing. It's the same thing. It's the same Nemo's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's insane. For a name from a children. What about the Nemo's?
Starting point is 00:40:46 The Nemo's. That's the same thing. It's the same Nemo's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the same family. They're cousins. They're cousins. Yeah, that's also made in a tub in Harlem somewhere.
Starting point is 00:40:54 113th Street. Yo. Holy moly. Where'd the name come from though? That's insane to be a children. Let it get from a joint. Let's stop talking. Some of that sounds freestyle.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Listen, to all of y'all, we didn't know all of y'all was coming, but this is our first time actually having to give J.J. the kiss, his flowers. We would have gave y'all all of y'all flowers as well. We're going to send it to y'all. We're going to have it on camera. That's right. But Kiss, you deserve your flowers. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:41:26 In your face. And Kiss, I'm not even playing around. Oh, man, nigga. Yeah, your flowers. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. And I'm not even playing around, Kiss. You are like one of the greatest people I ever met in life. Oh, that's yeah. Yes, yes, yes. And I'm not even playing around, because you are like one of the greatest people
Starting point is 00:41:46 I ever met in life. Oh, that's fine. Appreciate you. Not greatest rapper. You are a greatest rapper. You know that. But what I mean is, as a person, like, I make sure I don't call you for,
Starting point is 00:41:58 I try not to call you for favors, because you always tell me, yeah. And I want to keep that track record. So I'm like, and I remember at one point, boy, I was so cold. I was cold on these streets. I was cold, man. When I didn't throw him under the bus, I had nothing. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:42:23 And I called Jadakiss, and I said, man, I need you on a joint. And you just said, send it. And I remember me like, mean wanting to say, yo, man, how much? I got a Y or whatever. And he just said, send it. And he kind of hung up on me, and I was kind of cool. I was like, cool, because I didn't really have it. I was like, but they let you know What type of real person
Starting point is 00:42:45 It was Was You know We formed a bond From BAM from TV BAM from TV was Formed a bond And was crazy about
Starting point is 00:42:53 BAM from TV When we When we got together It was almost like We was all in competition So it was like Alright cool This is the record
Starting point is 00:43:00 For all of us to get Like Cam is at the top Of his game Styles is at the top Of his game Kiss is at the top Of his game Nature is at the top of his game styles at the top of his game kiss at the top of his game nature at the top of his game nature might even be more top of the game than me punting on top of the game and we all and the reason why everyone always says you know bantam tv is probably one of the top records ever invented is because we all made that face to face i didn't send you that record.
Starting point is 00:43:25 You came to the studio. You came to the studio. You on Styles' piece. That's what they don't force when the game's missing. That's what the game is missing. We was all in there. All in there. Having a goddamn ball, bro.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Not to cut you off, but you say I never tell you no. You one of the rare people that call me for nothing and just say, yo, just calling you to send you positive energy today. You know you my brother, this, that, and I don't want nothing. Just have a good day, man. You know what I mean? I thought about you this morning. Love.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Have a good day, man, and hang up. I forgot I'm a good nigga, too. I'm a good nigga too I'm a good nigga I'm a good nigga So are we ready for Quicktime with Slam? Okay cool Oh shit Quicktime with Slam
Starting point is 00:44:15 You played it more than once for sure No I don't think he ever played Quicktime with Slam No he called me and told me get me out of Quicktime with Slam By the way, I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be honest. That's your man, Mr. Lee. Your man, Mr. Lee, he loves you. He keeps it.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Listen, he loves you. He can't, like, so when you're not here, you're here. So, and I'll be telling Mr. Lee every time I see your name, I be like, you know, kids going to call me about this. But you always get picked, though. Except for like when Rakim. Nah, I don't take it personally. Nah, one time you called me, you said,
Starting point is 00:45:01 don't compare me to Rakim. I felt so bad because I was like, all right, you're right. You're kind of right. Don't do that. Nobody wants to compare me to Rob. I can't. Why are you going to put me against the God? Jamie?
Starting point is 00:45:20 OK. All right. So you ready? So we explain the rules? Y'all know the rules. No, nobody knows the rules here You got to answer If you don't answer
Starting point is 00:45:28 You got to take a shot That's it That's it One or two You pick neither or both We drinking all of it I'll take a shot Okay, alright, cool, cool
Starting point is 00:45:36 We got Sonny as a ringer too Sonny, if you want to bring in Sonny, I'm down I'm dope, no doubt He got you I'm down. I'm down. I'm duped, no doubt. He got you. I'm going to take your ass. Dang, y'all spelling is terrible on this. That's Dominicans and Colombians.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Definitely. Definitely. It's the thought that counts. Y'all ready? Oh, yeah, this is horrible. So I want to see. He going to take a shot off top. Yo. Yo, let's go
Starting point is 00:46:10 For you this was sheikah styles This is terrible. Yo, by the way, by the way, let me say something real quick. Wait, what's... Is this matching that? Why don't we match it? How y'all gonna line me up?
Starting point is 00:46:35 That's your man. That's your man. You got Hayes still. The only nigga in America with Hayes still. That's your man. But look, let me just say something, kids. Let me say something. You know,
Starting point is 00:46:46 me seeing you, your father, and your son together, me, knowing how hard it is to stay together in this music industry, I always want to
Starting point is 00:46:58 big the locks up. Fat. I always want to big y'all up. I always want to big up y'all togetherness. I don't know if that's a word. I don't care. y'all up. I always want to big up y'all togetherness. I don't know if that's a word.
Starting point is 00:47:07 It is. It is? Yeah. Okay. You know you went to college. You looked at me immediately. You good. You're a teacher.
Starting point is 00:47:16 But I always want to big that up, you know. And I recently, I don't know if this episode came out. I recently, you know, I said rest in peace to... Take off. Take off because that three-man thing, that was the closest thing I saw to y'all, those three men, and for them to be taken away, it's a travesty, and I want to say my condolences
Starting point is 00:47:41 to both of them because I feel like people are not saying their condolences. Enough condolences, yeah. So I want to say that, but I also want to say my condolences to both of them because I feel like people are not saying their condolences. Enough condolences, yeah. So I want to say that, but I also want to say, man, the shit that the locks has been through, it actually has to be saluted. There's no other team. Y'all didn't have an argument?
Starting point is 00:48:06 You didn't step on style shoes? She didn't fucking elbow you in the basketball game? None of this? And if it happened, which is so beautiful, that's what makes it even more beautiful. Even if y'all had something, the fact that y'all kept that
Starting point is 00:48:24 shit between y'all, that shit is unprecedented, bro. that shit is unprecedented, bro. That shit is unprecedented, man. Oh, Nori, can I say something to that? I mean, as an outsider, not being a part of this generation from the 60s and 70s,
Starting point is 00:48:40 so I ain't part of that, but I attribute that to they grew up together They're like family and people don't know they all seem bought every day for five years. I mean when they was We move to the new neighborhood, but but their family and they grew up from and that Just that's a testament to to the new neighborhood. Wow. But they're family and they grew up from, and that just, that's a testament to what it is to be family.
Starting point is 00:49:09 That's real. And not getting sentimental because you're choking me up here with some of your comments. Listen. Family is everything, man. That's real. I mean,
Starting point is 00:49:17 life ain't nothing without family. You can have all the money in the world, but if you don't have family and friends, you got nothing. That's real.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Can I get another one? of money in the world. You don't have family and friends. You got nothing. You ready? He ain't going to like this one either. By the way, this is your man. Your man in the ass. DMX or B.I.G? That's... By the way, this is your man, and your engineer, and your Miami engineer, your Dominican plug, and your Miami engineer. Hazardous.
Starting point is 00:49:55 You know them both. Hazardly. That's how y'all gonna do me, man? Yeah. Okay. We're gonna keep drinking. Yeah, we're drinking. How about these questions for him? OK. We're going to keep drinking. Yeah, we drinking. How about these questions for him?
Starting point is 00:50:07 What do you want to do with this? Now we're going to send you some shots. Fab or push? Oh. Oh. That's easy. Fab will push it, too. Another drink.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Yeah. Yeah. They going to do the James Johnson mochis again. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love the answer. I'm drinking. If he didn't pick both, I was going to drink because the answer is beautiful. Ross or Fat Joe? Even if he didn't, even if he didn't Vick Bope, I was going to drink because that ass is just beautiful. Woo! Ross or Fat Joe? That's more political. I got to go Ross.
Starting point is 00:50:51 I mean, I got to go Joey Crack just because what he did for the, Joey Crack was one of the people that, you know what I mean, made, he was, I wanted to, I wanted to wear that army coat and walk through the Bronx. Want to Flo-Jo? Yeah, Flo-Jo was one of them songs That made me who I am Listening to that You know what I mean? Digging in the crates And all them dudes
Starting point is 00:51:14 I looked up to all of them Showbiz AG You know what I mean? I looked up to the whole Digging in the crates That means crack We love them all Yeah
Starting point is 00:51:23 I gotta take I love Ross them all Yeah I gotta take I love Ross and crack But I gotta take crack Cause he It wouldn't be no Ross Or me If it wasn't no crack So I believe that
Starting point is 00:51:32 That answer That answer I ain't gonna lie Jamie I be feeling Like you trying to kill me More and more lately More and more lately She's been going in
Starting point is 00:51:44 Just Just Yes This is a good one More and more lately. More and more lately. She's been going in. Yes, yes. Are you ready? Yes. This is a good one. Rare ghost. Wow. He ought to be done over here.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Follow. Is this bro? Follow. What is this? What is this? I need this. No, no, no. I got you. No, I got him.
Starting point is 00:52:02 I might have one. Yeah, I got it. I might have one. Yeah, I could have one. Hey! Oh, shit! Yeah! I ain't gonna lie to you. I love my job, man. I love my job.
Starting point is 00:52:24 We gotta take it to movie check. Go job, man. I love my job. We got to take it to movie chat. Go ahead. Daytime office. Okay. Hey, don't give me none of this, though. It's 50 years for that. Give him another red wine. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Smoke shams. Don't do that. All right, big L or big pun? Ibonics. Ibonics, big L, yeah. Ibonics. Big L. You got to answer something.
Starting point is 00:52:56 That's a tough one. Take a thought. It's not. And both. Rest in peace to both. Yeah, man. It's resting. Why are you giving me decease?
Starting point is 00:53:04 Why are you doing this, man? I'm not going. Top five dead or alive. You killed that. You killed that. Good point, sonny. Hey, choices don't make this. Give me some alive.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Give me some alive. Oh, shit. We said pun or big F? Big F. Two monster MCs. Four chops and applesauce. I got to go with Pun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:34 I love Big L. You know, Harlem is like my cousin. Mase, Cam, definitely, everybody in the whole Harlem, but me and Pun, I had a different relationship with Pun. Me and Pun, I think me and Pun's first albums came out around the same time. We did, what's the joint in Virginia?
Starting point is 00:53:57 We did, what's that amusement park? Busch Gardens? No. I forgot what it's called we did me and pun did wild shit together like i'm kingdom kings the million all right and he's on the whole promo run together we me and pun had a different relationship and me and big al had a good relationship but it wasn't like pun so i gotta got to take pun. No problem. I can't take another one. What about dead questions?
Starting point is 00:54:29 Now, give us a Big L story, because we always trying to... No, Big L was that nigga. Big L really, I don't like that he got, he gave him his flowers after he was dead. They should have gave him them when he was here, but I guess it was too much going on or, you know, just how the world is.
Starting point is 00:54:45 But Big L was one of the first. Big L, when we was still trying to get a deal and still, like, I don't know if we met Puff yet, but we was downtown on 139th getting some weed from Buzz Me In, old spot that used to be there. And he was in front of the fried chicken spot. And SP got out. And him and SP went in, got into a battle. A furious one. I was being big. Who has that footage or something?
Starting point is 00:55:15 It was no cameras. I know, I know. It was crazy. It was in the camera around back then. It was nothing possible to record it, but yeah. And then we got cool with him after that once we found out about Children of the Corn and all that. But Big L was already famous. Big L was one of the first young dudes to make it.
Starting point is 00:55:36 You know what I mean? Once again, shout out to Digging in the Crates for seeing the talent in him way back when he was a youngster. Okay. But me and Pun had a different relationship. You know what I mean? This is for you, Pops. L.A. or Miami? He loves the South.
Starting point is 00:55:55 I might have to take a shot here. Does that mean both or neither? What? Does that mean both or neither? No, I'm going to take the shot. That's a good shot, by the way. I like L.A. because of Bron. You know, Bron is special.
Starting point is 00:56:13 I don't know if the world knows how special Bron is. And not just for his basketball skills, for his activism skills and what he's doing and what he's doing to speak out because a lot of people don't say what needs to be said in his position. He's taking a lot of flack for saying what he's saying. Damn, Pop, that's real. But he don't give a damn. That's real.
Starting point is 00:56:33 But I like Miami. Miami's up and coming. So we taking a shot. We taking a shot. We taking a shot. And I love Jimmy Butler. Okay, all right. He's in the coffee Jimmy Butler was selling coffee for $20 a cup
Starting point is 00:56:50 So he's my hero Holy shit Alright For you EPMD Or Run DM or Run DMC Run DMC without Run DMC
Starting point is 00:57:11 I don't think he thought about that I don't think so neither I grew up in Queens I grew up in Laurelton from fashion to the music to the first collaboration with Aerosmith and Run DMC
Starting point is 00:57:24 it's just the accolades go. Yeah. You know, if it wasn't for them. If it wasn't for them, it wouldn't be no man. Even if he would say Run DMC. Yeah. That was right. Rest in peace, Jam.
Starting point is 00:57:34 It's your thing, Run. Yeah. The young homie in the building. I mean, this goes back. Yeah. I want to see where you're going to go with it. You on TV raps or Rap City? Rap City. me in the building. I mean, this goes back. Yeah, I want to see where you're going to go with it. Yo, MTV Raps
Starting point is 00:57:46 or Rap City? Rap City. Oh, that was too quick. That was too quick as well. Yes. What?
Starting point is 00:57:53 Because of the freestyle? Freestyle. Okay, all right. I got it. He only saw what Rap City
Starting point is 00:58:00 was. He only knew what Rap City was. He only knew what Rap City was. He was off the air with his shit. Oh, man, that's great Okay, this is I think this is What we're boiling up to
Starting point is 00:58:15 Lost Boys or Naughty by Nature This is the next versus I think we're setting it up That's easy Rene, one of my favorite records Nah, but I gotta go Naughty the next Versus. I think we setting it up. Ooh. That's easy. Rene, one of my favorite records. Nah, but I gotta go naughty. You gotta go naughty.
Starting point is 00:58:31 You gotta go naughty. You gotta go naughty. Chase and them is my man. That was, LB's, LB fam is my brothers forever. Still don't know how to do this. And Tresh is incredible.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Tresh is the juice. Nah, it ain't even that. It's just what they did coming out of Jersey. Yeah, they did a lot. They revolutionized. They still on tour to this day doing them anthems, man.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Heard you. Gotta go naughty. I refuse to ask this next question. Man, I won't do it to kids. On purpose. I'll go with it. Jay or Nas? Oh, oh, oh.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Oh. Oh. Be true. I'm going to go Nas because a lot of people look at... I'm going to go Nas because what happens, I feel, which is unfair, is a lot of people connect the business to Jay and not the music. Nas got some hell of a business. No, he's got some hell of a business, but Jay...
Starting point is 00:59:33 He's $40 million off of doorbells. I know, but we ain't going to talk about what Jay made off art. Only $40 million. But I'm going to go with Nas. I'm going to go with Nas. That's something I always wanted to ask you, because I guess Nas threw you in the battle at one point, and he said you popped shit.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Apologize. And apologize. Yeah, I said that in a thing. You heard my name in the last verse of Ether. Yeah, I said that before. I got a different relationship. I love both of you. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:00:04 I got a different relationship with both of them. I think I could get in touch with Hov easier than Nas. Really? I think I can reach Hov. I can reach Nas too. They both would accept my call. They both accept my call.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Is this who's easier to reach? Just call them now. Know what I mean? Nah, nah, nah. I don't need to be with either one of them. They will call me later. What the fuck is going on?
Starting point is 01:00:44 I'm sorry, bro. The richer they are, the with either one of them. That's right. Because they will call me later, what the fuck is going on? I'm sorry, brother. The richer they are, the pennier they is. We love being honest. But you're from Queens, though. Yes, I'm from Queens. But the richer they are, I'll be honest.
Starting point is 01:00:54 He still knew you. We knew you. Yeah, we knew you. No, but you picked Nas, right? I picked Nas. You picked him because you feel he's overlooked? Two things can be positive
Starting point is 01:01:00 at the same time, you know. So, I mean, that ain't, you know, I like that. Two things, I never heard that before. Two things can be positive at the same time. Yeah, that's fine. Everybody. It's like Cole and Drake. Oh, I'm not answering that question, sir.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Don't get into this, man. Yeah, yeah. I see him lying to me, y'all. I see him lying to me, y'all. I see him lying to me I see him lying to me I see him lying to me Uh oh Uh oh I like
Starting point is 01:01:33 Having an ace of spades Okay And where's the Hennessy at It's around here somewhere Excuse me We got Deuce But
Starting point is 01:01:41 I like them both Okay Go ahead Go to the next one Juice or Boys in the Hood Boys in the Hood You quick with the answers I do say. But I like them both. Okay, go ahead. Go to the next one. Juice or Boys in the Hood? Boys in the Hood. You quick with the answers. Man, he's quick.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Boys in the Hood. Word. It didn't just have like a corny ending where he either died or lived. Like, it was a two-way. Dope Boy died. Trey went to college. You feel me? So they had, it was options.
Starting point is 01:02:04 It was legit. That's what it is in the hood. You either gonna go somewhere good or you gonna go somewhere bad. Juice just, every, only person live was Q and you don't know what he did. He really on that shit. He got the juice at the party.
Starting point is 01:02:17 That's real shit though. That's real shit. He threw a heart at you. He broke it down right. He gave you a big cup of big comfort motor You gotta think about it And Q was local Q was local He was local
Starting point is 01:02:30 He was mad his pops got raped in jail Q wanted to DJ Like It wasn't no end goal for him You fucking up juice for me right now I didn't even remember His pops got raped No yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:02:45 But I think he was just saying that You feel me Still ain't wanna do nothing Over my head Still was smoking crack Still was smoking crack It was no end goal It was no end goal. She was following him around.
Starting point is 01:03:07 They had no end goal. Special Ed took a baby. It was in goal. Special Ed had the facade. Nigga, you fucked up my whole cow. He fucked up everything for me just now. Because I can't even debate you. That's what's fucked up about it.
Starting point is 01:03:23 I want to debate. I want to debate. I don't know. I'm telling you to sit back. I'm going to go back and watch this tonight. Come on, baby. There was no end goal in juice. None of them had an end goal. It did feel like there was more that could have been happening in the movie.
Starting point is 01:03:38 You should have just left it how you said it the first time. It was good how you broke it down the first time, man. He told him, if I ain't shit, you ain't shit. Yeah, just leave it, man. He's too deep into that, man. You're looking at it as a psychological thriller. That's what you're looking at it as. We should have made him take another major.
Starting point is 01:03:58 He took another major. He's going too far into this shit. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. Hi, kids. go to the game. I'm going to go to the game. All right, kids. Scarface the Cube. What?
Starting point is 01:04:09 I'm going to get the play. You got to answer, son. I'm going to be honest. It's quick like your son. I'll be honest. I can't outside no relationship with these people. No, no, no. I can't answer Scarface the Cube, neither.
Starting point is 01:04:17 I ain't answering. What? The more... Yeah, like, I ain't going to lie to you. I'm going to go to the game. I'm going to go to the game. I'm going to go to the game. I'm going to go to the game. I'm going to go to the game. I'm going to go to the game. I'm going to go no, no. I can't answer Scarface or Cube neither.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I ain't answering. What? The more, yeah, like, I ain't going to lie. No, free rolls. Because. I think that. I think I appreciated Ice Cube first. They were around the same time.
Starting point is 01:04:42 But I appreciated Ice Cube, I I mean Scarface a lot more See you know what it is for me Face came to the hood Face was in Y.O. with me when we shot World War 3 Face came and sat on the crate in Y.O. Ate a turkey and cheese sandwich All that
Starting point is 01:04:59 Face came to the trenches with me See what I like about Cube When the beef was going on Cube came to New York. Over here. And got with Hank Shockley and the Bomb Squad. Yeah, we talked about that
Starting point is 01:05:10 with Chuck D. And he took a leap of faith and was like, this music, it can go anywhere. And I'm going to go to New York and get in, jacking for beats.
Starting point is 01:05:19 When he did jacking for beats, it changed everything. I actually respect everything you're just saying, but it also was why you might got to lean that way a little.
Starting point is 01:05:27 He wrote all them easy. N.W.A. Yeah. Listen, that's why he felt like he was ice cube writes the rhymes that I say
Starting point is 01:05:36 and I never took offense to that. Not at all. I never took offense to that. He didn't get fucked. This shit was
Starting point is 01:05:42 supposed to go like that. Yeah. I was like, oh shit. And then later Yeah, I was like, oh, shit. And then later on, I was like, oh, shit, did he say that? He told us. He said it. I just feel like Cube was, like, I didn't know.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Cube was before his time. He was before, like, for me learning about Face. Because I learned about Face in Ghetto Boys. And then I learned about Face solo. But Cube, I learned from N.W.A. Then, when it seemed like it was over for Cube with NWA he made this America's most wanted he was on the He went back bad. He went back bad. He gave a Friday though.
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Starting point is 01:09:58 I'm sorry. The source or double XL? You look like me. It's gotta be the source. The originals. That's the original hip-hop Bible. I mean, there were so many things in there, like the five mics. And they were one of the first ones that had a lot to do with my career.
Starting point is 01:10:13 They used to have a column where there was a basketball player and a rapper. And they used to talk. Pick up my nigga Benzino. You stabbed him, right? Jesus. Jesus Christmas. Hey, yo. You stabbed him.
Starting point is 01:10:25 You stabbed him. You stabbed him. You stabbed him. It was the craziest thing to say. You saw him stabbing him. Now I call him coffee. Now, who the hell? I didn't stab nobody. Who the hell said that story recently?
Starting point is 01:10:36 They was like, man, I was there with the locks and Manzino. And it was like, yo, man, them Rough Rider niggas know how to fight. Who said that? TK. TK said that? No, we saw that somewhere. Oh, no, it was TK. It was TK.
Starting point is 01:10:51 TK said that, yeah. He was like, I'm going to undo it. He was on that tour, right? Yeah. He was on that tour. He was like, man. Yeah, he said the jokes came out. He said, man.
Starting point is 01:11:01 I got to relax. That's insane. I mean, it's over seven years. I's insane I mean it's over seven years I mean I didn't stab anybody though I didn't stab nobody
Starting point is 01:11:14 it was the sauce oh shit I wasn't ready it was a good one next question Wu-Tang or NWA? I might have to take a drink on that. Pop, don't let me keep it real.
Starting point is 01:11:32 You want a drink? I'm taking a drink. I'm taking a drink. I'm taking a drink. I'm taking a drink. NWA. I know where you're getting it from, man. I know where you're getting it from.. I know where you're getting from.
Starting point is 01:11:46 You really come home with a class act. You got to answer him. He said N.W.A. I'm taking a shot at you. Take it from somebody that's not from that genre. Because, like I said, I matured in the late 60s. I mean, Temptations. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Do what? Hard rock. Hard mean, Temptations. No, no, no. Do what? Hard rock. Hard rock. Muddy Waters. Beatles. The Who. George Clooney. Rolling Stone.
Starting point is 01:12:12 I mean. You're a different type of nigga, man. No, I mean, but. Your boss listens to Beast Boyz. Listen. What you got to realize is that all these new genres that. That's the race. Even the rock, hard rock at that time,
Starting point is 01:12:27 is similar to where hip-hop is today because it was something new. It was counterculture at the time. Exactly. And it crossed all genres. White, black, everybody was listening to hard rock. I mean, the Who and the Stones and the Beatles. We were the Beatles,
Starting point is 01:12:43 and I don't want to tell too much, on my fifth grade talent show in school, a black, all black school. You were the Beatles? The black Beatles? A segregated, there was five black Beatles.
Starting point is 01:12:56 But this is how big the Beatles were. Yo, that was the roaches. No, but... The water bottles! What songs are y'all covering? The water bottles! No, we did the other one. She was just 17.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Yeah, that one. But I'm gonna tell you how big the Beatles were. See, y'all missed the whole... The British Invasion. Michael Jackson bought the Beatles catalog, so they had to be big. Listen, hip hop is one thing
Starting point is 01:13:27 but you got to realize that every so many years there's a genre that comes along. Right. There's going to be something else besides hip hop
Starting point is 01:13:34 that's going to come now. We might not be here when it comes. It's called reggaeton. Rock. It could be reggaeton. But rock and roll, I mean,
Starting point is 01:13:41 which was, they called the devil's music and it'll never survive or whatever. Hip hop was never going to survive but it's here 50 years later. Hard rock was never going to survive, but it's here 100 years later. So there's going to be something that comes later. That's real.
Starting point is 01:13:55 That's part of this whole process that we're doing right now. The legacy. And Hard Rock, which was what I cut my teeth on, you know, Iron Butterfly and The Who and The Stones and The Beatles and The Birds and The Bambles and all these. You know, I listen to all this shit, you know. I listen to everything. No, but whether he realizes it or not, I played all this shit when he was a kid that he don't remember. Ask him what he listens, what his parents listen to.
Starting point is 01:14:30 And whether you guys realize it, you guys are motivated by what your mother and your father and your people was playing when you was coming up. Ask him what his first concert was, the hip-hop concert. What first hip- hop concert was yours? You don't want to say?
Starting point is 01:14:48 Heavy D. The answer that he wants? Heavy D. That was the second one, yeah. What was the first one? Heavy D. The first one was Fatboy's Run DMC. Woo! That was a dope one.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Pop. Come on, man. Yo, if you're not one not the greatest pop to hit. Come on, man. You know, but there was. My mom actually took me to. But his mom. But they wasn't part of.
Starting point is 01:15:13 They took me to see Heavy D, LL, and Keep Sweat at the Pop. Right, right. But the point being is that everything that we do influences where we go you know so it ain't a matter of where you end up at it's how you got to where you're going right i mean so i mean there's a whole you know temptations and and and rolling and and and and the main ingredient and all these cats that i mean that actually his mother is the biggest Whispers fan that you could find in the world. We learned a lot of things about Jadakiss today. It's like they say, nothing new under the sun.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Exactly. Exactly. What's the next one? What do you have? We can't remember the history right now. Sonny's been trying to hook pop something to hold down. Yo, Sonny, get out of my pops' DMs. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't.
Starting point is 01:16:07 We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't.
Starting point is 01:16:15 We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't. We can't.
Starting point is 01:16:23 We can't. We can't. We can't. We can one of those. No, I ain't going to have one. He's going to make it for you. He's going to set it up with 20 kids. That's something I ain't going to do. We're going to do Kiss Cafe Pops. I got one. I got a no IG Bob.
Starting point is 01:16:33 He's going to make you a Kiss Cafe Pops. Lit. That's the name of the brand. Good. So this is going to be for you, Pops, then. Oh, man. Frank White or Nino Brown? Nino Brown.
Starting point is 01:16:48 You took Nino? Nino Brown was the king. Over Frank? Over who? Over Frank White, the king of New York. Listen. Nino Brown was the king. Frank was flying out the cover.
Starting point is 01:17:01 Nino Brown, everybody knows Nino Brown. Nino was a real. That's the shit. He. Nino Brown, everybody knows Nino Brown. Nino was a... That's afterwards. He's Nino Brown, though. Nino! They can say Frank ain't spilled a few beans here. They ain't sure. Yeah, but no, they ain't sure don't mean that it didn't happen.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Frank gave the hospital 16 million. Listen, but I'm thinking... Nino gave out tur didn't happen. Frank gave the hospital 16 million. Listen, but I'm thinking. Nino gave out turkeys, man. Frank gave them 16 million. As far as the culture, Nino Brown. I'm with you. You know? I'm with you.
Starting point is 01:17:32 All right. MOP or Mobb Deep? Fuck! They get another shit. Yeah, man. Let me get one, man. Oh, you're bringing out the bottle. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Thank you, sister. That ain't easy. A lot of shots. Crazy? Yeah, man. Let me get one, man. Oh, you're bringing out a bottle. Yeah, man. Thank you, sister. That ain't easy. A lot of shots. Crazy? Yeah, that is. MOP knocked us out of getting our first deal with priority. Really? They had to meet.
Starting point is 01:17:56 We both had a meeting that day. After they came out, they told us, I'm sorry. We just signed them. This was before Bad Boy, I'm assuming. Yeah, yeah, way before that. I've never heard this story. Yeah, wasn't it some, it was Priority, right? Yeah, no, it was Priority.
Starting point is 01:18:15 They had, we went and had a meeting with them. Was they first shit? Who was MLB first? How about some hardcore? No, wasn't it with Relativity? I thought it was loud. No, no, Relativity before that. No, before that, I was after.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Somebody Google whatever they first shit was on. It was Relativity. We went there, had a meeting. I believe so. They had a meeting. They were the best. They won. They got...
Starting point is 01:18:38 Y'all didn't even get to audition? No, we had a nice meeting, but they already made their mind up. They signed. They they mind them. They signed, they was taking them. They had budget for just one. I'm solid. You got that? What you got on there?
Starting point is 01:18:52 I said select street record. Select street? Select. Maybe select had distribution through priority maybe. Select, it was select. Whatever it was, I remembered them. Wait, we took a shot for that? I took a shot.
Starting point is 01:19:04 I'm taking a shot. Rest in peace prodigy. Rest in peace prodig shot for that? I took a shot. Be true. I'm taking a shot. Rest in peace, Prodigy. Rest in peace, Prodigy. Rest in peace, Prodigy. MOP, wherever you at. We love y'all. We need y'all.
Starting point is 01:19:12 We need MOP over here at Dream Champs. Free. Two of my favorite groups ever. No, no. Take one of these. And I was just listening to them. They did the same thing to Norman and Lorde. They on the end.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Finish them. Finish them. I don't know what's going on here, but Donald Bills are coming out. All right. Yeah. I'm always on the's going on here, but Donald Bill is coming out. All right. I'm always on the team. Yo, dawg.
Starting point is 01:19:29 Also, hold on. The song that Nokia produced for y'all. You don't want it? Yeah. What? That album is underrated, the reunion. Oh, the reunion is awesome. No, you know, that shit got some shit.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Thank you. What I said, no, he was saying, I was just telling. He said he was coming. He didn't say what he was saying. Well, today is about you and y'all, my brothers. Everybody deserves their flowers. Yes, and y'all deserve y'all fucking flowers. Go ahead, EFN. You got the next one?
Starting point is 01:20:00 Yes, sir. Analog or digital? Ooh. Round the table. Digital. Digital? Digital, sir. Analog or digital? Ooh, round the table. Digital. Analog. Digital? Digital, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Analog. Nah. You got to take a shot with this. Analog is the shit I went to school for. As soon as I finished, they came with digital. Digital, man. Digital. Analog.
Starting point is 01:20:21 You know what? Digital kept the cheat up off a lot of them because it's analog. You wouldn't be making a dime today. You know what? It kept the talent better for me.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Like, analog, like... Now, analog... It's digital still. It's analog. It's analog. It's analog. It's analog. It's analog.
Starting point is 01:20:38 It's analog. It's analog because... You had to be hands-on. You had to be like... Hands-on and everything. When I listen to NRE album And I'm not comparing my album To the world
Starting point is 01:20:48 That's a classic What I'm saying is Classic album The reason why I listen to it And I don't skip through it I don't do nothing I don't cringe Was because
Starting point is 01:20:58 Every artist that Actually worked with me Worked with me there There yeah Like Animal brought something In the studios that was magical. Right. You can tell nowadays...
Starting point is 01:21:09 You can tell nowadays when a person's time, though, it had its time. It's true. Yeah. It's true. And you're thinking more of the marketing side of analog. I'm thinking about... I'm thinking about the analysis at the end of the phrase.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Because remember, the real box text is... Remember the great box text. This bitch, you a dog. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:30 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:38 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. because of a lot of people not getting what they should have got. How so? Because you were able to pirate a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 01:21:48 No, digital is more... Well, they've learned how to remedy the pirating in digital because it's... Right, it can control... Digital can control things a lot more from a commercial side than... Not talking about the artistic side, right? I'm talking about from the commercial side,
Starting point is 01:22:03 it's easier to control, right? It's not, because digital, I remember when Napster came. Yeah, Napster fucked it up. So when the digital came, the buildings kept trying to change rules all the time. They couldn't catch up with the hackers. Yeah, so every time something new digital come,
Starting point is 01:22:19 it's these new laws and contracts that nobody, so then they screwing the artists. So analog, when it was, think about when music first started, it like, basically just owning the masters. But now when digital came, they was like, oh, let's make new laws for streams. Oh, let's make new laws for this, like, digital creates more like loopholes for the, for the,
Starting point is 01:22:37 They could just make up anything they want with, They could be like, yo, the Penelope rule, they could make Penelope that never exists. But then the artists, they so concentrated on the music, they like, damn, we don't even have an answer for these new rules that's being in place with these digital terms that's coming. Because owning the masters, it was literal back then. You owned those big reels.
Starting point is 01:22:56 That was in your warehouse. That shit's in the cloud. Right. That's an idea that you own the masters. That's why it's so digital makes things get. You own your masters in your mind like that. No, it's it. But it's...
Starting point is 01:23:08 It's my mind, I own my shit. So let me ask you something, Pop. The rules can keep changing. We not finished yet, right? No, we not finished. Let's finish it and then I'm going to ask Pop something. All right. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 01:23:18 Tribe called Quest or Brand Nubian? Everybody could answer. Taking a shot. Ooh. I got to take a shot. I take it. No, I got to take a shot. Taking a shot I gotta take a Shot I take it Nah I gotta take A shot
Starting point is 01:23:28 Taking a shot Or you gonna answer Nah but everybody can answer You gotta answer something Nah He gotta answer something No no no yeah You taking a shot
Starting point is 01:23:38 I take it the most man I take a shot man Your answers have been shots the whole time Yeah Cause I love everybody Cause kids love everybody bro Fair Don't mean that you don't love them cause you
Starting point is 01:23:51 He can pick No but I got different Relationships I got my views I love Travis forever Brand new years forever They're part of it. They raised me in a certain way.
Starting point is 01:24:07 They both. I listen to both of them simultaneously in my Walkmans in high school. Did you say Walkman? Walkman. It would have been crazy today. You don't have no idea what a Walkman is. They don't have a Walkman. They had a Walkman is. Take place.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Take place. You have a 20-foot? Walkman. Yo, Kiss, it would have went crazy today. It would have been like, why there's no walkwoman? You thinking too much. You got to relax. It might have been crazier than that. Think about it right now. Why did it go too much been a walker. I walk. I walk. I walk.
Starting point is 01:25:05 They would have been like, no, you walk. Oh, we're crazy. What's up, man? Martin or Malcolm? Malcolm. Man. Man, fast. Who?
Starting point is 01:25:17 Malcolm. Yeah, I'm Malcolm. I'm Malcolm, but he Martin. Me and Martin in the same fraternity. Look, look, look. Me and Martin in the same fraternity. No, but look. He lived around the corner from when Malcolm was born. Oh, Malcolm. But he Martin. Me and Martin in the same fraternity. Who is back? You and Martin. Me and Martin in the same fraternity.
Starting point is 01:25:25 No, but look. He lived around the corner from when Mount Martin got shot. On my 15th birthday in Memphis, Tennessee. Wow. I'm from Memphis, Tennessee. Around the corner. I did the marches. I did the marches.
Starting point is 01:25:40 I did all that in ninth grade. I left school. We did the whole thing. April 4th is my birthday, the day that Martin was killed. I'll take marches. I did all that in ninth grade. I left school and we did the whole thing. April 4th is my birthday, the day that Martin was killed. So his whole birthday got shut down. Rest in peace to both of them. No, honey, that was just a noob. And you heard him?
Starting point is 01:25:54 He was doing the marches as a kid. I did the march before Martin died and the march when Martin died, too. He was in segregated school. I grew up in segregated school system. I didn't go to school with one white person, I'm sorry to say, for my whole was in segregated school. I grew up in segregated school system where I didn't go to school with one white person, I'm sorry to say, for my whole 12 years of school. You know, that's how Memphis was.
Starting point is 01:26:11 You see what they're doing in Tennessee. You see what they did a couple weeks ago, right? With the two legislators in Tennessee. Oh yeah, they're trying to... No, they expelled them. You know, I mean, Tennessee is the birthplace of the Klan. I mean, I... Wow.
Starting point is 01:26:27 I thought Mississippi was the birthplace of the Klan. I thought Mississippi was... No, no. Tennessee. Tennessee is the birthplace of the Klan. Yeah, I'm from Memphis, Tennessee. And Mississippi, though, right? My father's from Mississippi. Father's from Mississippi. Stay out of this
Starting point is 01:26:43 response here, man. He's adding to your Yeah. Sonny playing with my pops. Sonny with your pops DNA. It's his DNA. He don't realize it. Sonny trying to manage them. Yeah. Sonny trying to manage your pops. That's hard.
Starting point is 01:27:19 That's hard. I'm taking a shot. Just go off. I'm sorry. I might have to take a shot. Give me one, nigga. Give me one. I might have to take a shot give me one give me one I might have to take a shot I got to take him to El Gabiano's
Starting point is 01:27:30 I got to take him to El Gabiano's give him some food say it loud before I ask this question how did you get to Yonkers? Ooh. That's a good question. I hate when you make sense.
Starting point is 01:27:51 My grandmas and grandpas kicked them out. I came from a large family, very large family. My great-grandfather was the son of a slave woman and a white master who felt enough about his offspring to leave him some property in Tennessee just outside of Memphis. He sired 14 children, 11 girls, three boys. And one of the aunts, one of my grandmother's sisters, happened to come to New York because she worked for some people as a live-in maid and came to New York. And she, as happened in the 20s and 30s, helped all those other 11, well, not 11, but probably nine of those 11 to migrate to New York, to Yonkers.
Starting point is 01:28:46 She came to Yonkers because she worked for some white people that, no, no, my Aunt Emma, who was my grandmother's sister, who worked for a white family who was relocated to Yonkers. She relocated to Yonkers and she helped all those 11 girls that she had in her family, she probably helped eight or nine of those to come up out of the south to get up to Yonkers and my grandmother happened to be one of those that she helped get up to Yonkers and my grandmother lived in New York for the last, well, she was born in 1901 so it could give you some idea of how she was.
Starting point is 01:29:24 So, I mean, thanks. Did Sonny ask this question? She was born in 1901, so it can give you some idea of how she was. Wow. Did Sonny ask this question? Yeah. It came to Sonny by somebody else. Who asked that question? How the fuck did Sonny ask the most smartest question? She asked it. I knew it.
Starting point is 01:29:39 I knew it. It couldn't have been him. Since Sonny's managing him now, that's why it came to him. It couldn't have been nice. He's managing him now You gotta relax Before we're done so he's gonna give you the chain at the end The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves.
Starting point is 01:30:19 This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it. I'm J.R. Martinez. I'm a U.S. Army veteran myself, and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Honor, Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Podcast. From Robert Blake, the first Black sailor to be awarded the medal, to Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice.
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Starting point is 01:31:27 diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian, Dr. Randall Williams, and bestselling author and meat eater founder, Stephen Ranella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 01:33:12 ad free at lava for good plus on apple podcasts outcast of ugk GK. I'm talking to you. I was cast. I was cast. The parrot. Yeah. I was cast all day. What'd you say? The parrot? He got a parrot story with OutKast. Oh, tell him the parrot story.
Starting point is 01:33:33 He got the crazy Zandre 3000 story. Y'all, you gotta tell him. Did you ever hear it? I need to hear it. We're here for the story. I need to hear it.
Starting point is 01:33:41 Drink some more Deleon and give it to us. What'd you do? And the witch is three thousand man tell us It was probably 90s man, I used to do work with Mitchell Ness. And OutKast came to Philly to get some jerseys. And I took $3,000 to Mitchell Ness back then. $3,000, man.
Starting point is 01:34:14 You ain't talking South Texas. He was $1,500? They was in town. And I just remember meeting him. And he had the bird on the shoulder and the guitar. Him who? $3,000. Back then he had a guitar and a bird.
Starting point is 01:34:26 It was probably early 2000s. When he was going in that. Yeah, when Outkast was in the height and I just was like, yo, he's probably my number one MC. He's one of the illest MCs. Yeah, he's the illest. Was he by himself? They shared birthday. Yeah, same birthday, him and Kiss.
Starting point is 01:34:42 You're May 21st, 7th, right? Yeah. That's my girls. I'm May 21st, 7th, right? Yeah. That's my girls. I'm May 28th. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 01:34:48 All right. All right. We getting it. One, two, three. No. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot.
Starting point is 01:34:53 I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot.
Starting point is 01:34:57 I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot.
Starting point is 01:35:01 I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. I'm taking the shot. You got to switch your birthday I never heard a nigga
Starting point is 01:35:11 Tell a nigga switch his birthday My nigga You made a nigga Give his dad back You don't remember that That was the illest shit To this Nobody
Starting point is 01:35:24 I don't care what nobody did. You went up to a nigga and took your dap back. You reversed the dap on the nigga. Tell them that story, kid. Tell them. Back in the golden era, somebody had something up at Jimmy's Cafe in the Bronx. We and Jimmy's, I come through,
Starting point is 01:35:50 Nori came through. I was there first, so we already in the section. Nori came through with the unit. Boom, they come in the section. He's so honorable and respectful. He giving everybody with me a dab in love.
Starting point is 01:36:08 So he give everybody that's with me a dab. Then it was happened to be another dude that wasn't with us. He gave him a dab. Now, I don't know how smart he was. I like after he came back and like, yo, he with y'all? I mean, like, nah, he ain't with us.
Starting point is 01:36:24 He went up there. He went up there. He went back to the nigga. This is sign language on steroids. He said nothing. He went like this to him. When I went back to the hood and told them, yo, I see something.
Starting point is 01:36:58 No, he took his dad back from a stranger. What are you talking about? When I showed them, every, yo, dog, that's the most historical. He took it. Look, EFN,
Starting point is 01:37:14 me and you, you remember that? He rolled it back. Yeah, dad in him, dog. I was crying. Shit was incredible. You never met nobody in life that took their dad back. Well, only matched by you telling Eddie that I needed to change his birthday.
Starting point is 01:37:40 Yeah, you got to change your birthday. If he can take his dad back, Eddie the ass ain't going to change his birthday. Yeah, you got to change his birthday. If he can take his dad back, then he's assy. He could change his birthday. You born on May 26th now. We going to switch this shit. We going to City Hall. Don't even worry about it. We going to switch this shit.
Starting point is 01:37:57 He got to cut him. He'll pay the legal expenses. Yeah. Oh. All right, two more. We got two more to get out of this. This is wild, man. Thank you, Bob.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Thank you. Thank you. Why is the dollar here, though? Yeah, yeah, yeah. People get flashbacks, right? Beat Street or Crush Groove? Which one? Crush Groove?
Starting point is 01:38:24 Crush Groove for me, too. Crush Groove? Box,? Crush Groove? Crush Groove for me too. Crush Groove? Box, Earl. I like you, Ray's good. Crush Groove, Ray's good. I ain't going to lie. I'm fucking with you. You want to sit man late when it, you know, that's hard to really like accept.
Starting point is 01:38:35 He got it in his DNA, EFN. He know. All right. This is not a trick question. You want, go ahead and say this last one. Oh, yeah. This is the only one I feel like this is not a trick question. Go ahead, say this last one. This is the only one I feel like this is not a trick question. Loyalty or respect?
Starting point is 01:38:50 Loyalty. Why? Why? Because if a person's loyal to you, they respect you all for it. They won't feel a reason to lie to you or deceive you. They just feel like they could come to you and tell you. If a person can't tell you, I believe this firmly. With all my friends if one of my friends can't tell me i'm wrong you're not really my friend because you can't come to me as a man forget the status what i could do for you
Starting point is 01:39:14 what you could do for me you can't come to me and tell me like yo bro you was dead wrong like you was out of pocket with what you did agree Agree with me in front of everybody. It's just me and you. You can tell me about myself. I take respect over that because if you respect me, you're going to be loyal. You're going to be loyal or you're going to respect me enough
Starting point is 01:39:35 to get away from me where I don't even got to think about you. I worry about loyalty, right? Yeah. I got to go with him on that one. Respect is first Then anything Frank brings loyalty respect brings all of that money power respect is our first album You call respect I don't need you to be loyal to me I just need you to respect me. I gotta expect you to be my enemy. Nah, that's not what I'm talking about. That's not what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Psychology, respect, shit, dog. But your enemies never change. Your friends change. Your friends change, your enemies don't. So if your enemy, you know that like, if me and you were enemies, I know you're my enemy. I'm just listening. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:40:22 Like, I know you're my enemy. So you may not change. You're always going to be an enemy to me. If we become friends, that's over time. But if you're my friend, at any moment you could change and we could be at odds. If I'm your enemy, I could kill you at any moment.
Starting point is 01:40:38 But I understand that you might. I understand the possibility of you killing me. As my friend, it's least expected. think about it even statistically Most domestic relationships in in a person and know them is that people have been raped or killed or know about people that know them It's never a person. They don't know where you from in the hood your friends kill you Shit you reading is with the professor. Grandma told you that. My mother told me that.
Starting point is 01:41:06 You know who your friends are. I could feel it. And they were probably loyal to the day they wasn't. They was always loyal until that one day. Your enemy always was death landing me.
Starting point is 01:41:14 I got to watch him. Your friend, you feel like you ain't got to watch him. Loyalty has limits, though. Let's get off this shit. Respect has no limits. Next question, please. Please.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Yeah. We would just say automatic vote. Yeah, automatically it's vote. Automatic vote. My nigga. My nigga took his dad back, though. Jay Da Kiss never lets me forget that. He be like, yo, you're the only person I seen take a dab back.
Starting point is 01:41:46 What's the last one? I said, take a question back. No, no, no, but for real, he told me that I did that because I respect y'all, locks, rough riders, yonkers, and I thought that that guy was actually with them. That needs to be reenacted, man. I'm doing it. That needs to be reenacted. We got to put that in something. That's a skit. That needs to be reenacted, man. I'm doing it. That needs to be reenacted. We got to put that in something.
Starting point is 01:42:07 That's a skit. That needs to be reenacted. And there's one more embarrassing moment that Jadakiss got. He got me two. We got to hear it. We can't say the other one. We can't? The other one was when I jumped on a chick back for no reason.
Starting point is 01:42:21 I'd pay to see that. Ladies and gentlemen, we got more than one more But the one he's talking about Shout out to my man Nye And my whole Juice Park Juice Bar Staff
Starting point is 01:42:36 And family Me and Nori link up At the Juice Bar On 125th Between Park and Madison One day I can't even look at him saying his story.
Starting point is 01:42:46 He drinking wild box, wild tiger bones. Uh-oh. We overdoing it. Well, he's overdoing it. Yo. So we've been there like sundown.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Now it's closing. It's like last call. We get a couple more. They close it. They don't even close it they're about to close but we go outside a lady walks by he just jumps on the back yo he went for this out of all our years being together, I never lost, like, kinetic energy with him. This time, he went off the grid for me. The lady, I don't know what kicked it.
Starting point is 01:43:35 The lady walked back. Hey, kiss. Hey, Nori. Him. Jumps on the back. That's only the beginning. Now, he gets up. He goes in the juice bar.
Starting point is 01:43:48 He mangles the juice bar. He throws all the pamphlets. He destroyed the juice. Yo, he went crazy. My man Nye is just saying, man like Kess. Man like Kess. What's going on? Kess.
Starting point is 01:44:05 I can't even answer him because I don't know. I never saw him do that. I don't know what's going on? Kiss. I can't even answer him because I don't know. I never saw him do that. I don't know what's going on here. I'm like, him, man, like, Kiss, what does he do? I'm like, nah, calm down. Just chill. Let the smoke blow over. He finally chilled. By the way.
Starting point is 01:44:25 I don't know what's going on. He starts cleaning up, picking up the pamphlets. Nori, I'm sorry. Sorry. Kiss, I'm sorry. He apologized. I'm sorry. Me, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:44:40 He just got caught in a movie. What are you going to do? He apologized. Fuck it, he just got caught in a movie. What are you going to do? He's apologizing. Listen, the story gets worse because I actually went to Branson. At that time, Branson was lit. So I actually took the car after leaving y'all. I went and I parked my car at Branson. But this was like the first time.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Weed spot. Weed spot where New York City, you could park in the middle of the street. Yeah, they had them spots in the air. So I parked in the middle of the street. And whatever version of Uber was at that time, I jumped in that. It was the OJs. OJs. And I jumped in that and I came home. And then this was crazy. It was OJs. OJs. OJs. And I jumped in that and I came home
Starting point is 01:45:26 and then this was crazy. This was real, I swear to God. Whoever lived on 140 51st and St. Nick. 51st and St. Nick. I didn't know these niggas at all. I came back the next day.
Starting point is 01:45:43 These niggas had my car keys. You dropped your car keys? I parked my car there. I knew I was that bent that I knew I can't go home. So whoever was there, I was like, yo, here, y'all.
Starting point is 01:45:56 You got this. Yo, you got this. Like, you got it. Like, listen. At this time, I gave a hood nigga the valet. I gave it to him
Starting point is 01:46:10 and I went the next day and I seen Eddie. God bless the day, Eddie. Rest in peace, Eddie. Rest in peace, Eddie. Which you had to bend? Oh, nigga, I ain't going to lie to you.
Starting point is 01:46:18 I think I threw a nigga the 600. Oh, my God. The 600 bends. Here. Here. Gave it to God. The 600 beds. Here. Here. Gave it to him. I never had a license.
Starting point is 01:46:30 Never had a license. So he must, I ain't going to lie to you, I think he killed it that night. Was it for a ride? I would have. I would have. But then he came back and he had it parked at the same place. As soon as I came down, he looked. He was like, yo, it was just like we just had a mutual understanding. Like, yo.
Starting point is 01:46:52 He said it like this. Like, I was like, like. That's a great way to shit. Like, you just kidding. Anybody kidding. Go ahead. Came back, he gave me his shit back. He's great.
Starting point is 01:47:06 Kid you not. But let me tell you not. But let me tell you something. That's when rap was the safest job. Rap is the dangerous job now. But I remember, I'm sorry to sound like the old guy, but I remember when rap was the safest job. I remember when police, if you got pulled over, the police officer would give you back your key and say, yo, because you're a rapper. You're the person who made it out. Now we are the people that's dying.
Starting point is 01:47:36 Being a rapper is the most dangerous job in the fucking world. Because I don't know who my enemy look like. God bless me, you know, because I know military people are going to say, what the fuck is Normie talking about? But listen to you military people, and I'm not taking nothing away from you, but you know what your enemy look like. I don't know who my enemy,
Starting point is 01:47:59 some of my enemy could be right here, right now. Nigga could be right here, just chilling with me. Chill. Don't say anything. I didn't go through you like that, Link. Poor Link, man. Link is out there.
Starting point is 01:48:14 What are you asking him? He's a little bit mad. No, but by the way, that's fucked up. Because most of the people who have beef in hip- hop, your enemies is coming from your own camp. That shit ain't even coming from outside. It's coming from your own camp. So that shit, that to me is terrible. That to me is like we all conducting one of the foulest jobs in the world but by the way
Starting point is 01:48:46 we had DMX sit right here DMX sat right here rest in peace and DMX asked I don't diss people no more and I said why you don't diss people no more DMX and he said because for every one rapper 16 families can be saved. Just think about that. I'm taking a shot for that. I'm taking a shot for that. Salute. Salute. Salute. So just think about that.
Starting point is 01:49:13 I ain't taking it. Yeah, you ain't taking it? Go ahead, nigga. 16. Yeah, but just think about it because it's 16 people, 16 families. Because to each one man might be three to four people. Yeah. No, I get it.
Starting point is 01:49:32 Rappers really do save life, environments. But we're the most endangered species in the world. Rappers. Why? You say rappers? Why? Because of what you do. Because it's easier for me to take from you than to work the same way you worked.
Starting point is 01:49:54 Ooh. Deep. Deep. That's the reason why. I like that. It's easier. You're right. It's easier.
Starting point is 01:50:01 Somebody who thinks they could just take my my life They could just be who I am Without working For what the fuck I worked for Nobody wrote my rhymes Nobody helped me with this podcast Other than this motherfucking Great hair motherfucker right here That's my friend
Starting point is 01:50:21 That's the person who told me Let's do it again When we did the same exact show. The first episode. That didn't work. That's real. He ain't come to me and say, nigga, we didn't, this didn't work.
Starting point is 01:50:35 He said, let's do it again. Do it again. That's a real friend of me. That's real. That's a real friend of me. Yeah. To me, like, we good people, man.
Starting point is 01:50:48 Like, we good people. We not foul people. Like, listen, man. You know, Kay Rosewood don't have to text me when he not around Kiss, but me and him, I fuck with Kay.
Starting point is 01:51:01 That's my man. That's not, he my man because he's with, his loyalty to Kiss. But then I also respect him as a man. Individually. Because I'm like, I respect how much you hold
Starting point is 01:51:16 my friend down. That's real shit. That's real. I love K. I love K for him, but then I love K for him. You understand what I'm saying? Me and this nigga had a whole bogey relationship for 15, 25 years. Neither one of us smoke bogeys no more.
Starting point is 01:51:41 I still identify with him because I identify with how much he loves Kiss. And that shit, to me, is exactly what should be warranted. Like, every time I see, like, yo, bro, I understand how hard it is to be a rapper's friend
Starting point is 01:51:59 because they're calling you for the favors. You're not calling them. I'm calling Kiss. Probably got the illest curve game for the favors. You're not calling them. I'm calling Kiskefali that got the illest curve game in the world. Of course. Super fast. Of course.
Starting point is 01:52:13 And you know how hard it is being K? You know how hard it is being K? I'm just being honest with you. That's a fact. I told them about it. K got a curve for the curve. He got a B to B to B. I wanted to hear when he told you okay. Come on. Like, I'm just about okay. K got a curve for the curve. He got a B to B to B. I wanted him when he told you okay.
Starting point is 01:52:27 Come on. Like, I'm just telling you. I understand. Like, K got to be like, and Kiss is loved. Jada Kiss is loved. Do you know how hard it is being K? I know it. How hard it is being his son?
Starting point is 01:52:39 Yes. No. I actually do. I actually do. I speak to my sons, too. Y'all niggas got it hard, but y'all niggas is rich. No. I actually do. I actually do. I speak to my sons, too. Y'all niggas got it hard, but y'all niggas is rich. Relax. But no, I got you.
Starting point is 01:52:53 I got you, got you, got you. But what I'm saying is, being that friend, being that close friend, being that friend that they know who to contact, they know like, all right, cool, Kiss ain't going to pick up his phone. I'm going to call him. I'm going to call him. I'm going to call him. That position is so hard. I ain't friends.
Starting point is 01:53:08 That position. No, let me say something. Yes, please. That ain't friends. That's family. That's family. That's what I'm saying. You ain't got to be blood to be family.
Starting point is 01:53:16 That's right. That's right. But you got to have that love to be family. That's right. That's right. And let me thank you for saying something, because I hope he heard something that you said there, because the new generation is, they got a warped view of what it takes to make it and what it takes to be what you want to be. That's right.
Starting point is 01:53:36 It seems like he got it. You know, he got, I mean. That's great. Give it to him. I don't know if it's yours. I love how you said it. He's still a little homie to how you say he's a little homie. He's got it. That's right.
Starting point is 01:53:51 It seems like he's got it, that he heard it. But it's harder for this new generation to hear it because they're looking at a different from a different perspective of what it is. You know, they see one part of it, but they don't see what it takes to get to where you got to that. It's not like you don't just get there. You know, you got to put something into it to get to where you got to get. And it's about being genuine. At the end of the day, it's about being real. You know, and if you real and if you true everything else will take care of itself
Starting point is 01:54:26 like you i mean i listen this is my first time meeting you nori yes and you uh quite a lot younger than i am yes you're actually a little younger than my son yeah but uh i'm with you yeah but i mean and this is my baby. Oh! I got an older child. One, two, three. Oh! No, but there is a generational thing that we, there is a difference. There's a generational gap. Don't make it right, don't make it wrong, you know, but.
Starting point is 01:55:04 It is. It is, exactly. It's there. Don't make it right. Don't make it wrong. You know, but it is. Exactly. And as parents and as people, we try to shield people from certain things, but some things they don't need to be shielded from. And there's some things that they need to see to get them to where they need to go. But you said something just now that I hope in my heart that he heard what you said, what you just said. And I don't think he did. But, you know, if he hears it enough, I think he'll get to it. But, you know, you said some heavy shit there that I hope that I'm not capable of passing to him. What?
Starting point is 01:55:43 About what he's saying about who you are and what it means to be a person. A real person. And how you treat people. And how I would hope that he'd treat people because at the end of the day, it's about how we treat each other. It's very
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Starting point is 01:59:37 I got friends that's very, very poor and very, very rich. I understand that, though. I got friends very poor and very rich. They don't understand it. Put your wrist up there. Go ahead. Put your wrist up there. Put the other wrist up there. Put the other wrist up there. Put it up there.
Starting point is 01:59:52 Yeah, me too. I got friends that's very poor and very rich, but I understand it's friends that my rich friends go through that the poor can't understand or comprehend and that the poor can't comprehend. The rich can't comprehend that the poor understand or comprehend like so it's really just It's a it's a balance within it. Um, it's not always it's not always gonna be pretty
Starting point is 02:00:12 It's not always gonna be ugly. Sometimes you just gotta roll with it like Rich of being poor though. See it's understanding. All of y'all got bars. And right now they battling. They battling. The niggas is doing versus right now. It's really understanding. It's versus legacy. It's really understanding. Understanding like that.
Starting point is 02:00:35 Sometimes what the rich has is not always going to be it. Like the rich just might have the money, but there's no love. I got friends that's poor, but they got love in the home. Their mom there, their dad there. That's real. The rich, it might just be always partying and traveling. There's no honest conversation about what you into or what you don't like. Like, there might be, you don't, you'll know them, but you won't know a person.
Starting point is 02:01:00 So, that's really what I've taken from it over the last 26 and a half years. Look at how you my age. She lit. Nigga, that's kicking shit my age. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But can I say something? And this is going to be my last time speaking. Oh, please.
Starting point is 02:01:13 No, no, no. Get your shit up. No, I didn't have a shot. Take a shot. No, no. Take a shot. Take a shot. Give me one.
Starting point is 02:01:20 No. Give me one. You know when the last time I had a shot? About 30 years ago. About 30 years ago was when last time I had a shock. No, but this ain't the liquor talking, though. And, man, I didn't know this podcast was like this. This was really enlightened.
Starting point is 02:01:39 Yeah, you got the L-code for me. No, I'm telling, no, no. It ain't you. Listen, you're following my homie there. That's a hill of coals. No, but I want to say this because I would be remiss if I left this podcast without saying this. And people say, oh, you know, I know you're proud of your son. Of course I'm proud of my son.
Starting point is 02:02:11 I would be just as proud of my son if he was the cable installer or the telephone man or even the sanitation man. But what I'm most proud of my son is he takes care of his family. He takes care of his family. And that's something that we lost in the black community. I hate to say it. No, that's right. No, but let me just say something. Let me say something.
Starting point is 02:02:39 Let me say something. Me and Kiss Dad go on tour. Shut up! My grandmother likes you. This nigga don't manage you. Me and Kiss Dad go to that tour. Shut up! Take that bottle from him. Take that bottle from him. No, take the bottle. He already put you on that box.
Starting point is 02:03:01 Nah, but let me just say something. The fact that you three people are together and showing that this can exist. Black people, their legacy. It ain't easy. No, no, no. But the legacy. Just y'all three together. Commodity was the core.
Starting point is 02:03:24 You know what I meant. Y'all know what in the camaraderie? What's the camaraderie? You know what I meant. Y'all know what I meant. The camaraderie. Pop's still taking shots. I respect that. This nigga outside. Hey, hey. I'm not new to this.
Starting point is 02:03:37 Listen, the reason that I came out of the streets was so that he could have his turn. You know, we both couldn't be out there at the same time. No, hold on, hold on. Let me just say, let me just say, this is beautiful. No. And I don't want to say it's beautiful for us being black. I want to say it's beautiful for us being human.
Starting point is 02:04:02 People. But you know what, Norrie, real quick, and bringing it back to Kiss Cafe, for years, right, we've been... I'm going to take a shot. I'm sorry. We've been... Oh, take a shot, and then I'll give you the point.
Starting point is 02:04:13 All right, go ahead. You got three right there. I'm drinking this. Oh, you've been bullshitting. You're out here hanging out in the wrong. Oh. Slow down. Slow down.
Starting point is 02:04:22 Kiss Cafe. This is the next episode, by the way. I'm going to break this down in an aspect of life and being black because we're black, so the point is that we're here as minorities, right? Right. And for years,
Starting point is 02:04:40 we have been buying white brands and brands for the aspirations of what they are because we've been buying pol brands and brands for the aspirations of what they are. Because we've been buying polo to live that lifestyle. We buy every Louis Vuitton that's a name. We buy Marc Jacobs, that's a name. And now black people getting to buy a family name and a product. So we haven't had many black family things like this. We got Sensuals now, right?
Starting point is 02:05:01 No, we have. He white. No, no. Sensuals is white? Jerry's black. That's my man. I don't know what you're talking about. Jerry's black. Jerry's black. What?
Starting point is 02:05:09 Lorenzo. Shout out to Jerry Lorenzo. But a lot of times in black, we had a lot of singular people. And shout out to Kalkanar, April Walker. We had Maurice Malone, you know. But now we have a black brand that's a family. And that's very rare. So you're buying into a lifestyle
Starting point is 02:05:26 and showing this family and this culture that they're bringing together, and a great product. So it's very rare and it's very special. That's so beautiful, man. Let's make some noise for that. And it's also something for other people to aspire to. That's the thing, you guys are inspiring people. It's something that, you know,
Starting point is 02:05:41 like I don't have much that I can pass on to the next generation. I mean, I've been doing this for pretty much all my life. So I don't have something that I can give to him, to give to him, to give to whatever. And all I have is knowledge or knowledge about the business. A couple dollars? But that's a lot. A couple dollars? A couple dollars
Starting point is 02:06:05 goes very quickly. Speak some good, and you'll kiss Bob being rich. And it's not, you want, you're talking legacy, you want something after you that lives on forever. That's all I have to give. That's beautiful, man.
Starting point is 02:06:20 That's as much as we can do. But, you know, it's a beautiful thing. Just cafe coffee. You know, it's not about just a, I mean, like I said, working with your son and your grandson. I mean, you're talking about giving your flowers while you're here. That's a dream right there. I got my flowers.
Starting point is 02:06:41 That's a dream, yeah. You know, I got my flowers. We send you your flowers. And we send got my flowers. That's a dream, yeah. You know, I got my flowers. We sending you your flowers. And we sending you your flowers. You know, I just hope they can keep them, man. That's the only thing, man. We're going to keep it going. I was the last Phillip since I'm my little brother.
Starting point is 02:06:56 Tour. I was the last Phillip, got the last game. He said tour. Yo, yo, this nigga Sonny is hell. Sonny really going to manage your box, brother. Sonny starting a super chat for you right now. Sonny is going to manage your box, brother. Sonny is going to manage your box, brother.
Starting point is 02:07:04 Sonny is going to manage your box, brother. Sonny is going to manage your box, brother. Sonny is going to manage your box, brother. Sonny is going to manage your box, brother. Sonny is going to manage your box, yo. This nigga's Sonny. Sonny really going to manage your box. Sonny's starting a super chat for you right now. Sonny, your new manager, pops. Nah. Nah. But I know we actually playing around, but to be honest with y'all, this is a beautiful thing.
Starting point is 02:07:21 Nah. It's actually a beautiful thing. Like, you know, Us sitting around and talking about three generations of coffee. You know what I mean? Most of us didn't even know what coffee meant. Most of us don't know.
Starting point is 02:07:35 We just thought coffee was from Colombia. You sniff a Coke, you get coffee. It's not a Coke drink coffee. Smoking drugs and coffee. People have no idea of the effort and the work that it takes to bring this. It's a simple thing that you do pretty much
Starting point is 02:07:50 most people do every morning of their lives, but have no idea of how this product got to their table. The effort and all the hard work and everything else that gets this product to the table it's it's an amazing story if you really got into it you know the producer the
Starting point is 02:08:12 guy that's growing the coffee the guy that's exporting from please kisscafecoffee.com kisscafecoee.com And by the way, I want to announce it live on the podcast. My wife has a juice bar. Juicy juice. Juicy. And we would like to have this coffee.
Starting point is 02:08:36 You got it. You got it. You got it. Exclusivity. And by the way, we're not asking. It's down here. But we're not asking.
Starting point is 02:08:50 We are paying. We are paying to have it. That ain't important. We're going to make it work. We family, baby. We got it. We're going to make it work. I got it.
Starting point is 02:08:58 We got it. We got it. You my brother, man. You're going to be the first guy to have the character. The have to carry Kiss Cafe coffee. The thing is, don't talk about it. Be about it.
Starting point is 02:09:10 So me, I'm going to be the first one to have a Kiss Cafe account in Miami. In Miami. And there's no way I will not pay. I'm paying for it.
Starting point is 02:09:23 No, I don't give a fuck. I'm going to do you, pops. Me and you. You got to go to the manager. Don't go there. I got to go to the manager. Don't go to him. He'll overcharge you.
Starting point is 02:09:32 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'll overcharge you. Don't go there. I don't want to go to you. Don't overcharge me. I'm good. Don't take the chance to the dealer. Yeah, the dealer.
Starting point is 02:09:40 His email is. Yeah, yeah. No, no. No, you know it. Say it to him. No, you know what it is. No, no, no, no. Go to the guys and pop. No, no, no, no. You know what it is. No, no, no, no. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:09:49 You know what it is. No, no, no. To tell you the truth, you know what it is. For real, this is what we have to do. We got to lead by example. I don't want to say,
Starting point is 02:10:00 yo, I'm going to support your business and not do it. No, I'm going to do it. This is how you lead by example. And I'm going to support your business and not do it. No, I'm going to do it. This is how you lead by example. And I'm going to be the first account in Kiss Cafe. Cafe. Cafe.
Starting point is 02:10:17 Kiss Cafe. Kiss Cafe. First Miami account. We're making it right now. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. N-R-E. And hold up.
Starting point is 02:10:28 And we can tell everybody that's listening to this to go to your local coffee shop and request it. That's a fucking no. Thank you, Go E-F-A. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm not waiting around. I'm getting seriously buying y'all first a cup in Miami. Y'all Kiss Cups coming next week, too. Who? This week. Kiss Cups. The joints you need. I'm dead seriously buying y'all first gum in Miami. Y'all Kiss Cups coming next week too. Who?
Starting point is 02:10:46 Kiss Cups. The joints you need for the crib. They can give either or. I'm buying it all. I'm buying it all. Listen, I got y'all, but because I don't want to, I actually have to. I'm supposed to. It's only right that I be the first
Starting point is 02:11:08 Miami account I love it and I'm doing it with my wife's juice ball it's not my juice ball it's my wife's juice ball shout out to Nary
Starting point is 02:11:19 shout out to Nary we love you baby keep up the good work Nary Nary and Nori Nori and Nary it's meant to be it. Keep up the good work, Nary. Nary, Nary, Nary and Nori. Nori and Nary. It's meant to be. It's meant to be.
Starting point is 02:11:28 Yeah, it's meant to be. Shout out to Nary. Shout out to Nary. We love you. And I don't want a discount. I'm paying. Come on, Nori. Turn it up, man.
Starting point is 02:11:39 Nori, it ain't about the money. It's about the business. It's about, I feel like y'all got high quality shit, so I'm paying high quality price. We try to do the bitchin'. And I've got to try to do our thing. We do a good, diligent business with you, my brother. I don't want no motherfucking cut price.
Starting point is 02:11:56 I'm out here. I'm out here with the Vaca Ron Constantine. You know, the Vaca Ron Constantine. Turn for y'all. I mean, I ain't going to lie. Niggas can't get a Vaca Ron, period. I got three of them. The team you know the vodka wrong I got that I got that I got that Niggas better leave me alone I got that I got that I got that I got that
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Starting point is 02:12:33 I got that I got that I got that I got that I got that I got that I got that I got that I got that I got that I got that I got that I got that I got that I got that I got that If somebody wants to get in touch with you guys to do distribution, like wholesale business. Info at kisscafecoffee.com. Info at kisscafecoffee.com. Yeah, and then kisscafecoffee.com. Kisscafecoffee.com. We're just migrating to the institutional area, like coffee shops, juice bars, and that sort of thing. We're going to take Starbucks. And the IG is kisscafecoffee.
Starting point is 02:13:04 But we want to make sure that you treat the coffee with the respect that it is. Well, but you're a man about respect, so we don't have to worry about you. We know what you're going to do. Nori and Neri is good. They family. We good.
Starting point is 02:13:17 So we going to be the first person to have it? Yes. We going to be the first. Right. And it's out. It's out. First person and it's out. Oh, I'm taking all these back. We only got one store in Yonkers that you can come and get a cup of Kiss Cafe coffee.
Starting point is 02:13:33 It's on Ashburn. It's across from the Duke Condominiums. I'm not sure of the name. And you can get it online at kisscafecoffee.com or at gkisscafecoffee. So I'm going to sell this at $8 a cup. Whatever you want to sell. No, no, we don't want it. Now, y'all got to control the price.
Starting point is 02:13:51 You can't sell it, Piper. Pepsi is a brand name. It's a brand name. This is like Blue Man and Piper. We want you to spread the love. Yeah, now, we sell it at $8 a cup. You might have a kiss set. Whatever you want to spread the love. Yeah, now we selling $8 a cup. You might have a kiss set, whatever you want to sell it at. If my flower's down for the day.
Starting point is 02:14:11 No, you're going to have it on the balance beam. And what's crazy is, you never know. Kiss my car and give us. And drink coffee with you. And drink coffee with you. We're going to have a launch. When they get it, we're going to have a launch. When they get it, we're going to have the launch. I'll be there.
Starting point is 02:14:28 But listen to y'all. Look at this. Look how sexy this is. This is the Louis Vuitton. I mean, we can put She just had a gag. Get an operation. And this is for the love of coffee.
Starting point is 02:14:45 Listen, this is the Louis Vuitton of Get an operation. This is for the love of coffee. That's right. This is the Louis Vuitton of coffee. Hermes. And I'm going to be honest with y'all. For the love of coffee. At least $4 a cup. Don't fluctuate any prices, man. At least $8 a cup.
Starting point is 02:15:03 I'm sticking with $8. Yeah, quality. It's worth getting lactose. Yes. I'm sticking with eight. Yeah, quality. Is it worth getting lactose? Yes. I'm out with lactose intolerance with Kiss Cafe. No, you're going to write your name in the top of the cup. I'm going to write your name. I'm going to write your name.
Starting point is 02:15:19 I'm going to give you an autograph. I'm going to give you everything, but you're going to pay $14. $14. $14. $14. $14. $14. $14. $14. $14. $14. $14. $14. $14. $14. $14. $14. $14. $14. $14. $14. $14. $14. $14, but you're going to pay $14. From $18 to $14, you're going to pay $18 a cup. You better show up early
Starting point is 02:15:35 to fuck you with $18. I went too far. I went too far. Listen, let me just say something. Kiss. Kiss family, free. I really enjoy this, I enjoy the togetherness. In our community, our culture, they don't promote togetherness.
Starting point is 02:16:01 I hate it. Is that a word? Yes. That's a word, that's a word. a word? Yes. That's a word. That's a great word. And it's a word. Yeah. Relax. You're Dominican. That's not a dictionary, Lee.
Starting point is 02:16:12 No, let me take this. Lee thinks in Spanish, guys. Sorry. What is it in Spanish? He thinks in Spanish. So it's hard for him to... Yeah, but let me say this. We really...
Starting point is 02:16:29 What's happening right now is really a beautiful thing. Us just sitting down... Celebrating each other. Because we're so stupid. We don't celebrate each other. There it gets. I'm supposed to celebrate the Jadakiss son. I'm supposed to celebrate Kiss Pops.
Starting point is 02:16:56 I'm supposed to celebrate Seth. I'm supposed to. But people will sit around and say, he's on his dick oh he's on so cuz that's that's our mentality yeah I got it yeah you're right they'll say that because they don't understand life and in life when I big you up and I say how great you are, and I big you up and say how great you are, and I big you up and say how great, and I big you up and I'll say how great you are,
Starting point is 02:17:32 it should be supported. People supposed to be like, damn, Norrie's great. And he's saying to Jadakiss how great he is. Another great. But most motherfuckers say, he dick riding. He dick riding.
Starting point is 02:17:53 Thank you, young'un. Because I didn't want to use that terminology, but it's actually what's happening right now. And I'm telling you, bro. It takes nothing away from me to tell you Jay the kids to your face. I Love you. I Want you to continue to be the best rapper top five dead of a lot?
Starting point is 02:18:20 For forever. I want to tell you that. No, that's real. Deep. Why should that take something from me? Why should that take something from your beautiful pops, your pops' hair? That nigga took shots with me. This is a blessing.
Starting point is 02:18:39 This is a blessing right here. You know what? What's your love? You for him, don't take nothing away from him. And that's what the problem with the world is today. That's what he said. In order for you to get something, it don't diminish me because you yeast somebody,
Starting point is 02:18:54 you put somebody else up, right? And that's what's wrong with the world today. Thank you, Pop. You need to think in order for you to get something that I got to lose. It don't have to be a zero-sum game. Exactly. I don't need... On that note, I wanted to get something that I got to lose this it could it don't have to be a zero-sum game exactly I don't need
Starting point is 02:19:10 So good so With me and kiss it's a brotherhood and like what I seen you and FN had it was the reason That we stay on our cash. I love that. A lot of people didn't know when it was time for it to come up. And it was like, what y'all doing is show. A lot of times it's the artists, the artists only. But y'all brotherhood has transcended just the artists. People see the brotherhood. And a lot of podcasts is always always or radio shows is like the one
Starting point is 02:19:46 person, but people look at this as a team. What we are doing is nothing from what y'all have started in the world of podcasts and what I started but it was like y'all were the blueprint for what we're doing now in that relationship.
Starting point is 02:20:02 I ain't say this to EFN. He probably probably is gonna look at me crazy but yeah finn don't want to be in my position and i don't want to be in efn position he wants to be in his zone i don't want to leave kindle ever and one day I'm going to leave. And I want to go everywhere else. It makes us the best friends. That's what makes it work. That's what makes it work. It's because he has one vision, and I have another vision.
Starting point is 02:20:36 But I'm never going to downgrade his vision. He doesn't downgrade mine. Y'all combine them. That's what makes it work. It's beautiful. Y''all combine them. It's bold. That's what makes it work. It's beautiful. Y'all changed the face. It's beautiful. And I know he's going to be fucked up right now,
Starting point is 02:20:51 but you're like one of my best partners I ever had, bro. It's just being honest. I mean, I'm hot. You let me be me? It's CNN. It's C&E. No. No.
Starting point is 02:21:08 CNN is still great. That's what I'm saying. CNN is C&E. I love CNN. Listen, I'm so glad I was here when you professed your love to your brother. Your pop's going happy now. No, no, no. It's important, man.
Starting point is 02:21:22 I'm fucking with you. It's important. No, because you know what? I mean, Jason and, I mean, I don't know. Can you put the camera on my man? Yes, yes. You put it on. Come on.
Starting point is 02:21:30 Put it on. Put it on. Come on. Come on. Can you? I even know your name is Jason. Look at the call you Jason. Come over here, Jason.
Starting point is 02:21:40 Come over here. This is the relationship that goes back more than 40 years. This transcends copy of what they have. No, it ain't about the age. It's about the love. I'm still young out here. And you got to have somebody that you love in life. I mean, besides your spouse.
Starting point is 02:22:04 I mean, we all love our spouse. But then, if you take it back to the church, there's different types of love. The agape and, you know, but Free's a preacher's son, so he should know about all these things. But there's different types of love
Starting point is 02:22:17 that we have for different types of people. And we need all those to be together. I know Jadakiss 25 years. I know different fruitsakiss 25 years. I know different fruits. And when I see K, when I see K there. It's real. Being honest.
Starting point is 02:22:35 From there, from TV to now. It's real. It's real. That's my nigga. And there's nothing more beautiful than that. I'm fucking with K. Yeah. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 02:22:47 I don't give a fuck what's happening in life. If K tell me J Nick Hiss is there, I'm listening to K. Right. Can I say something on top of that? Yes. This trip was sponsored by, well, drink masters don't pay transportation. Yes. He said, I'm a master. What are you a master? Drink master. Drink master. transportation. Drinkmasters. That's you.
Starting point is 02:23:05 Drinkmasters. Drinkmasters. We got a new show. We got a new show. Drinkmasters. I'm not from this generation, so excuse me if I made a mistake. No, that was perfect. And I had a couple shots, so you can keep that in mind.
Starting point is 02:23:22 But Drink Champs, we paid out. We paid out. Y'all rich. Y'all rich. And gratefully, we paid our transportation and way down here. But at the end of the day, and I made the reservations, which I don't normally do for these guys because they're bougie. Exactly. Bougie.
Starting point is 02:23:43 And yesterday, he said, we didn't make a reservation for K. And there was no problem with making a reservation for K, but that just shows the love for and the respect for his man. And we all need a man in life or girl or somebody in life. I don't know if y'all got one. A trusted individual. Whoever that is, whether it be male or female. And if you got that, then you're going somewhere.
Starting point is 02:24:12 But if you ain't got it, something's wrong with you. K is one of the few. Hold on. Let me say this. Hold on. Hold on. In hip hop, because it's so hard to stay loyal, bro. It really is.
Starting point is 02:24:28 It really is hard to stay loyal because there's a person that says to you, what about homie? Homie over there living. Homie got the 745. The 580. Why you don't got that? Yeah. And then your right-hand man breaks.
Starting point is 02:24:49 Yeah. Because he don't got the 745. Yeah. He don't. So when this people were like, okay, and I got to say something. I got to say something. Tony Ayo.
Starting point is 02:25:06 Super loyal. Wherever Tony Ayo is at in life, I'm being honest with you, Tony Ayo. He just saying it. I actually really respect Tony Ayo. Super loyal.
Starting point is 02:25:20 He stood by 50. And if 50 did anything wrong Or 50 was to do anything wrong Tony Yale stood there That to me is hard You know I'm sorry Because I'm going to get a little deep right now
Starting point is 02:25:36 I'm going to get a little deep right now The other day I said Personally I can't interview Cuban Link And then I, I can't interview Cuban Link. And then I said I can't interview J-Hood. All right, son. This nigga wins.
Starting point is 02:25:54 But I can't. Listen to this nigga. But I can't because I love J-The Kiss, man. You love Joe. I love Styles P. I love Sheik. I love these You love Joe. I love Styles P. I love Sheik. I love these niggas. I have no disrespect.
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Starting point is 02:29:33 brothers. How can I be wrong? All I'm saying is I'm not dissing them, but I'm saying I'm being loyal to my friends. You say loyal, was it being real? Do you think that if you had gone that way that you wouldn't be genuine?
Starting point is 02:29:53 And talking as genuine, what you're just saying, you just can't do it. I can't do it. That's my friend. That's deep. That's my friend. I'd rather keep my relationship with them. And that's not, it's no disrespect to homie.
Starting point is 02:30:10 But I'd rather keep my relationship with them because they kept my relationship with me. With me. And I didn't give a fuck. So I just, I don't even care. Even if this guy was to come up and be like the illest dude in the world, I'm cool. I'm cool with staying with them. They not let you see them.
Starting point is 02:30:30 Relax, Lee. Relax. Lee, relax, bro. Come on, dog. You can't come from the background saying all that craziness. I'm sorry, kids. I'm sorry, kids. Because sorry for nothing, Norris Love.
Starting point is 02:30:42 No. Hey, that's real. Because I'm just being honest. I'm not even lying. I'm not laughing. I'm not none of that. Loyalty means a lot to me. The minute you show me loyalty,
Starting point is 02:31:01 and I don't show you loyalty, I feel like I'm corny. Yo, you real. So I have to give back the same exact thing. That you get. And the locks has gave me from Styles to Kiss to Sheik. I don't even think I got Sheik's number. But guess what? You know how to get it.
Starting point is 02:31:30 If Sheik calls me, I'm dead. You're dead. Yeah. I'm going to be on the seesaw with Sheik like this. It doesn't matter. It's a fact. Because my loyalty to Kiss And Styles Extends the chic
Starting point is 02:31:47 It makes Chic The same The same Let's not forget Kiss was like On our third episode Of Drink Champs
Starting point is 02:31:56 Styles and Chic Were like Fourth or fifth Like When we went to New York And you guys didn't know What the fuck we were doing Oh no
Starting point is 02:32:03 You guys looked at us crazy That's why I say I can't call you no more. And you double booked. And Ja was there. Everybody was like, what the fuck is going on here? That's why I say I can't call you no more. Who did the first one? Joe?
Starting point is 02:32:14 Joe was the second recorded. Me and Ja. Me and Ja did the first. The second. No, y'all were like in the second or third. Yeah, we flew to New York after that. Yeah, second. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:23 And you just stood there. We knew what the, we did not know what we were doing. Oh, we flew to New York after that. Yeah, second. Yeah. And you just stood there. We knew what the... We did not know what we were doing. Oh, we didn't know. That's why I love you. We know what we were trying to do.
Starting point is 02:32:32 Oh, man, y'all did it. No, but we... Y'all did it. Y'all did it. Yes. Y'all did it. Blow the horn, King. Blow the horn.
Starting point is 02:32:41 Blow the horn. Yeah, I can too. No, no, but... But, but, no, but But, but, no, no I cannot let Kiss get away with that Nah, Kiss You actually stood there And stayed with us
Starting point is 02:32:55 And said, I'm fucking with you, Nori And nah, nah, nah Nah, nah, nah And came back again Again and again Don't you ever, ever, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. And came back again, again, and again, and again. Don't you ever, ever, ever not understand that I love the shit out of you for being a good nigga. Nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 02:33:17 And I love you for raising a good motherfucker. And I love you for motherfucking being a son of a good motherfucker. And I love you for giving me swag. You was giving me all the clothes you was giving me. I took it. No, no, no. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:33:37 We got to go back. We start talking about the podcast. Let's bring that back. What's the podcast y'all doing right now? Shout out to DraftKings. Shout out to DraftKings. It's called Starting Five. Get a lot of money. DraftKings. Relax, manager.
Starting point is 02:33:52 It's Starting Five. It's me, Jadakiss, Don C, a fine female named Danielle, and a great betting world. She works for the Visa Network. And then there's a kid named Dirk, who's the voice of 2K. But what we wanted to do... It's a white guy? White guy.
Starting point is 02:34:08 Two white people. Okay. Is that the white guy right there? He's not it? No, no, no. That's my guy. That's my guy. He got that. I like you got white guys around. I like it. I like it. That's my guy Steve over there. The whole idea was like basketball
Starting point is 02:34:23 is just bigger than the game. It's the culture around it. So we wanted to get a show based on all the pillars of basketball, which is music, fashion, gambling, and video games. And for one of the things is I had a secret war going on with Kiss when I was at N1. He came with the Allen Iverson. He be telling you to relax.
Starting point is 02:34:41 Were you behind the mixtape? I created the animal mixtape. He created it. Oh my god. He did the 30 for 30. EF to relax you behind the mix I'll be seeing I created the animal mixed we did a 30 for 30 kiss was the voice you know he's the new I call him the Jason Earl Jones of hip-hop his voices voices Jason Earl Jones of hip-hop is one of the best voices like Darth Vader. It's going to happen very soon. You got to be in an animated joint.
Starting point is 02:35:07 Are you yet? He's coming. He's checking me out. Felix on Netflix. Felix. The A is the S sign. I already got one. I'm trying to get in that game, too.
Starting point is 02:35:15 We got a lot of work coming. What's going on over here? These niggas making deals. That's what that means. All right, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, when we came with the Starting Five, Kiss to me... The Starting Five is the name of the podcast, right? It's the name of the podcast. It's not a podcast, it's a show. It's a show on DraftKings Network.
Starting point is 02:35:35 Okay, on DraftKings Network. Yeah, DraftKings YouTube and all your social posts. But it was, to me, when I think of hip-hop and I think of basketball, he's top one. And connecting it with the culture, you know, the A.I. commercial was probably the biggest thing to me since they had one mixtape.
Starting point is 02:35:52 And then he was the perfect, besides he's my brother, he was the perfect partner to do the show. And we just released a record together with Kiss, Fat Joe, Styles P, and Rick Ross. It's called The Game. You're not drinking your drink, are you?
Starting point is 02:36:09 He drank those shots over here, man. Let's listen. It's called Drink Champs. It's called Drink Champs. We're the Drink Champs. They don't have to necessarily drink. No, that's not the way this works. You got a lot of empties over here.
Starting point is 02:36:22 A lot of bad soldiers here. But, yeah, starting five, man. we love to have y'all on there. And we got to bring Drink Chance Sports. Drink Chance Sports back. We got to bring them along. I got about four or five fake numbers. Jadakiss got my real number. No, I got your real number.
Starting point is 02:36:39 You got my real number. You never hate me. So I'm not even talking to y'all like that. But like you said, if she going to hit you, the love extends. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh.
Starting point is 02:36:49 Ah! You filming them all? I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. Film them all. Film them all. Definitely, man.
Starting point is 02:36:57 Y'all are really the inspiration. Nah, man. I'm going to be honest, man. What y'all doing is unprecedented. It's beautiful. It's exactly what we need in hip-hop. It's something that no one in hip-hop is doing. No one in hip-hop is doing fucking coffee.
Starting point is 02:37:17 What the fuck? And by the way, if they start doing coffee afterwards, you an idiot. Why wouldn't you fucking get down with Kiss's coffee? By the way, get down just the same way you got down with Rough Riders. You got down with fucking Rockefeller.
Starting point is 02:37:39 If I had a coffee right now, there's nothing else I would do but to say I'm getting down with Kiss Coffee. Coffee. That's real shit. And by the way, I'm a cheap coffee nigga.
Starting point is 02:37:54 Like, look, this is way too expensive. All right? But you sold it for $15,000 a cup. $18,000 a cup. He was up to $18 a cup. Hold on, he going to keep going. He had the $23,000 cup. He said, he said $18 a cup. $18 a cup. Yeah, he was up to $18 a cup. Hold on, he's going to keep going.
Starting point is 02:38:06 He had the $23,000 cup. He said, he's one day, oh, you been sitting there, $16 the next day. $23 a cup. That's a good one. But that's what I'm going to do. Kiss motherfucking Catherine. That's a good one. I'm going'll be honest.
Starting point is 02:38:31 I'm going to go to the bathroom, guys. I don't know what I'm doing. This Japanese deli on us is fantastic. What was we drinking? You go. You can say girl, what?
Starting point is 02:38:42 No, no. They're going to the bathroom? All right, yeah. I'm going to hold it down. I'm going to hold it. Are we still on or we off? We off. We off.
Starting point is 02:38:52 I want to say some real shit to you. Say some real shit to me. Come on, say some real shit to me, bud. I'm ready. I'm not from this genre. Yes. You from again. And, you know,
Starting point is 02:39:05 when my kid was coming up in this, this whole thing, I, like I keep saying, I'm not part of this, the hip hop culture. I hate to say,
Starting point is 02:39:14 or I'm, I'm proud to say, but, and people used to tell me, yeah, your son's going to be good. He's this and that. And I'm saying,
Starting point is 02:39:21 yeah, yeah, yeah. Your son is one of the greatest of all time. I don't want to hear that shit. That's what I told. I'm saying, yeah, yeah, yeah. Your son is one of the greatest of all time. Close your door. I don't want to hear that shit. That's what I told him when he was doing his thing. You do know your son is the greatest of all time.
Starting point is 02:39:32 No, I didn't know. I didn't know until late. I hate to say, I didn't know until late. I mean, when the record company came telling them they wanted to sign him to a deal, we got together as parents and we retained an attorney. And the attorney said, this is the worst contract I've ever seen in my life. Don't you ever sign this.
Starting point is 02:39:55 And we didn't sign it. This come from Pop Daddy? No, this is before Pop Daddy. Okay. And that's why I try to stay out of his career now because if it was up to me, he wouldn't have a career because we in hindsight, we made decisions that probably didn't further his career. But they did their own thing, probably made not the best decisions, but it got them to where they are today. But, you know, but, you know, but, um... It's a contract with 4-Puff Daddy.
Starting point is 02:40:27 Oh, the 4-Puff Daddy, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Before they even got to that point, I mean, they were just... So, that record was just a... No, no, even before that. This is when they were doing battles at School 6 on Ashburton Avenue and Yonkers and, uh, what was that, Jack the Rapper's and that whole thing. We're going way, way back, you know.
Starting point is 02:40:48 But no, no, I'm giving you history. I'm giving you real talk. I try to stay out of things now if I can because it's been proven that I don't know a damn thing about nothing. So I'm out of that part of the business. But the point I'm trying to make is that this is a genre that I have very little information about. I have a whole lot of respect for. And it's probably one of the most lucrative genres in music since the history of music.
Starting point is 02:41:29 I mean, with what it's done for so many people. I mean, and I think Minister Farrakhan said that, and said about this generation too, that they have the greatest impact on, that this generation could have the greatest impact on the world when it comes to that. And it has a lot to do with where hip-hop brought them and the whole basis of hip-hop. But the point I wanted to say is that this is something that I'm not a part of, but I appreciate what you're doing
Starting point is 02:42:06 and what this whole thing is about. I mean, to be honest, they had to tell me what Drink Champs was. No, you were part of it. When I came here. You were Jayda Kiss' dad. Now you're going to watch every fucking episode. And you are a Drink Champ.
Starting point is 02:42:20 You are. Or a Drink Master. I ain't going to lie. I feel like I could get you to take another shot right now give me another shot no but I want to say thank you man thank you thank you for raising
Starting point is 02:42:35 believe me I had no idea what this whole thing was gonna be about but it was a lot of love and a lot of respect and a lot of a lot of love and a lot of respect and a lot of realness. Get your mother's shoes together, man. Yeah. DM the licks.
Starting point is 02:42:54 I'm with my man here, yeah. Yeah, this nigga got your DM licks. Yo, make the reservation, man. Yo, Gabby Anos. Gabby Anos, my nigga lover. He needs a lot of bread. Yo. He's on tour. I'm with you. Yo, Sonny, we need a lot of bread. Yo. He's on tour.
Starting point is 02:43:07 I'm with you. Yo, Sonny, man. What is going on? Steve. Yo, Gabiano. No, wait. Gobo. Gobo.
Starting point is 02:43:16 Gabianos, make the reservation. Yo, yo. I appreciate you, man. It's my first time meeting you, and I think I'm a pretty good judge of character. Yes, and you making a good judge of character. Yes, and you're making a good judge of character. I'm your friend. I'm your friend. You're real, and that's the highest compliment that I can pay to you. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:43:31 That you're real. And by the way, I appreciate you. When I hit you and say, yo, I need to come on and promote the coffee. You said, I want to drink coffee. That's not a no-brainer. That's a no-brainer. I wanted to drink coffee. I wanted to drink. That's a no-brainer. That's a no-brainer. Come on, guys. I actually brought my milk.
Starting point is 02:43:48 No, no. Don't worry. We gave you your gift box. By the way, let me just tell you something. Kiss, send me the coffee, and I'm going to drink it every single day. I'm going to send you the coffee. You my friend. He ain't going to marry no one.
Starting point is 02:44:04 He loose. He loose. He ain't going to marry no one. He loose. He ain't going to marry no one. He going to sit you up. He going to sit you up. One of them going to sit you up. Listen, listen, listen. And this is your home, kids. You can come tomorrow,
Starting point is 02:44:13 the next day, the day after that. No, I don't like this. The same way you don't like to call me because I don't never tell him no, I don't like to abuse my... No, this is your home.
Starting point is 02:44:21 No, abuse my... No, no, no. No, no, no. Kiss, kiss, kiss. Kids get mad. Kiss, pop. Nah, nah. Start hating. Free. abuse my Free this is everybody look at me. Nah, this is your platform man. I promise y'all man like um, I Really want to blow this up for every which way fake shape form of fashion I want to make sure that people in hip-hop buy this coffee, not only buy this coffee, drink this coffee, love this coffee. I want to do this.
Starting point is 02:44:50 So you, you please call me. Because you know why? This is something I want to do. And this is what we're here for. This is why we have the platform. I promise. And by the way,
Starting point is 02:45:06 and by the way, this is something that deserves to be had. We and hip hop have never had a coffee. So now this is our first coffee and Jada Kiss has our first coffee. Are you fucking kidding me? And let's be clear. Let's be clear.
Starting point is 02:45:23 This is beyond hip hop. This is what we got to stop doing with hip hop brands or brands that are created clear This is beyond hip hop This is what we gotta stop doing Exactly With hip hop brands Or brands that are created by Cats in the hip hop culture This is beyond the culture This is for everybody
Starting point is 02:45:33 Look at this Look at the way this looks That shit is That shit look like a cake Come on Come on Tiffany sent it to me That's not the little boy
Starting point is 02:45:42 Come on That's not the little boy Listen Tiffany sent this to me. This is going to be good coffee. Good coffee regardless. This is not good like hip hop coffee. This is good coffee.
Starting point is 02:45:53 This smells like Tiffany too. Can you tell them about the next one? The next one is even hotter. I'm taking another shot. Of course you are. I'm taking another sip. Yo course you are. I'm taking another sip. Yo, but, but, but, but, free. I really want to thank you, brothers.
Starting point is 02:46:17 I want to thank you, brothers, because I've never seen this before. What I mean by I've never seen this before What I mean by I've never seen this before I've never seen Four brothers come together And say I'm going to make a company
Starting point is 02:46:37 And a sister Thank you And a sister Thank you I'm sorry Let me take my shot Let me take my shot And a sister God damn it And a sister Thank you. I'm sorry. Let me take my shot. Let me take my shot.
Starting point is 02:46:47 And a sister, god damn it. And a sister. I love what the fuck y'all doing. Continue to do it. We're going to support it. I'm lactose intolerant. He will shit. And drink. You can drink it black, you know. You don't have to have milk. Yeah, you don't have to have milk. You don't have to have coffee. I don't give a fuck. Andrew, you can drink it black.
Starting point is 02:47:05 You know, you don't have to have milk. Yeah, you don't have to have milk. You don't have to have coffee. You don't have to use your milk, you know? And you do your mouth. What do you call it? Just one stop? It's an extra three on the mouth.
Starting point is 02:47:16 I need it. When you hit it, John Wayne, you got an extra three. I need it. Just black with a little chip. I need it. Extra John Wayne, you out. And guess what I'm doing? I'm need it. Extra gentle way. And guess what I'm doing? I'm doing it.
Starting point is 02:47:29 I love you, brother, so much, man. Nah, y'all need to be praised. Y'all need to be saluted. We need to have the first Starbucks Kiss Cafe. Kiss Cafe coffee. No, Kiss Cafe is going to be at Juicy. Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 02:47:48 Kiss Cafe is going to be at Juicy at my wife's. No, but they're going to make Kiss Cafe brick and mortar standalone. Exactly. At some point. We're starting at Juicy. First one in Miami at Juicy. At Juicy. Exclusive.
Starting point is 02:48:02 Exclusive. Kiss Cafe. We're going to set you up. 18 hours Kiss Cafe. We're going to set you up. $18 a cup. We're going to set you up. Get you the banners. Get you everything. Where's your shop?
Starting point is 02:48:10 Where's the shop at? At Holladale. Right at Holladale. $18 a cup. Don't worry. We got it. $22 a cup. $27.
Starting point is 02:48:23 $18 a cup. That might be a good marketing scheme. It might be. Listen, I'm going to be honest. You can buy anything else you want in life, but you don't want to buy a Kiss Cafe cup for $18.
Starting point is 02:48:39 Of the viejo? Un besito ahí? You got to have the besitos. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy the $18 cup. Yeah, he sell two cups a day. I'm going to buy the second. I'm buying two cups of 40.
Starting point is 02:49:01 I'm buying the honey melon. You're just going to go all over now I went too far Let's leave the honey melon out Honey melon you said? Let's leave the honey melon out Honey melon I went too far But
Starting point is 02:49:19 Listen we bringing the Kiss Cafe Coffee To Miami To Racket We here, Racket You guys gotta check out Panther Coffee right here We gotta go over there I know Panther Coffee
Starting point is 02:49:39 What's bad? Is it bad over there? No, no, no, my friends sell to Panther Panther can't take nothing away from Panther. Panther's a good outfit. But we got something for Panther. Kiss Cafe, baby. There's room for everybody. No, there's room for everybody.
Starting point is 02:49:54 Kiss Cafe, baby. Kiss Cafe. We taking over. We bringing Kiss Cafe in. Juicy Juice Bar in Hollandale. And make sure you get it in your juice bar, wherever you at. And Juice for Life. Y'all get it.
Starting point is 02:50:10 Y-O. In Harlem. And the website, kisscafecoffee.com. So is the Instagram, kisscafecoffee. That's it. Email them, info at kisscafecoffee.com. If you want to do business. Info at kisscafecoffee.com. Can you take one more shot, I'll get on the charge. Info at kisscafecoffee.com.
Starting point is 02:50:26 Can you take one more shot, me and you? Just me and you. Bring it. All right. So bring it. Please don't worry. You're going to Gabiano's with us today. Ain't no, you're going to Gabiano's with us.
Starting point is 02:50:36 Yes, I am. But I'm taking a shot with pop. Yeah, I'll take you to truffle too. Truffle coffee. Truffle coffee. You guys are making truffle coffee? Yo, listen. I ain't going to lie.
Starting point is 02:50:47 Yo, listen. He ain't going to lie. Papa Kiss, I got to tell you this. You are a legend. You raised one of the best rappers in life. He's my friend. Hold on, let me finish. Hold on, he's my friend.
Starting point is 02:51:04 But he's one of the greatest people in life. So fuck how great of a rapper he is. And I'm telling you, he is the greatest rapper. And I'm with you on every word of that. But let me say this, and I can't go home without saying it. If I didn't bring his mother into this. Oh, thank you. You know, because mom is home. can't go home without saying it. If I didn't bring his mother into this, you know, because mom's home, and mom's doing her thing.
Starting point is 02:51:32 But if it wasn't the combination of the two, he wouldn't be who he is. Absolutely. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. I got that all respect. Shut up, you mom douche.
Starting point is 02:51:42 I respect the mom. I respect it. Kisses looking like, what the fuck is going on, pop? And I couldn't go home if I didn't say that. That's right. You know that? As long as you know that. No, but Nori, Nori, can I say something?
Starting point is 02:52:04 Just on the real before i go and please and we're gonna go i guess at some point in time going i gotta take you to eat yeah he got i'm cool but i had no idea of what listen again i'm not from and this is what i wanted to say before i'm not part of this generation i i hate to say i don't have no disrespect for it, but it's just not my thing. I'm 70 years old, I didn't grow up during this. I saw him too. Who's 70?
Starting point is 02:52:33 Nah man, me and him the same age, bro. Relax. I had no idea what to expect. He was Beijing, sorry. When I came here. Did you have fun? He got Beijing. Give me some love. Beyond Pond. When I came here. Did you have fun? He got Beijing. Give me some love.
Starting point is 02:52:46 Beyond Pond. Give him, give him, give him. Hold on, I'm getting up, I'm getting up. Beyond Pond. That's it. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
Starting point is 02:52:54 Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
Starting point is 02:53:00 One, two, three! Aww! Aww! Aww! Don't you love me, baby? You could be my son. That's the highest compliment I can make. That's beautiful.
Starting point is 02:53:13 That's beautiful. That's the best. That's the highest compliment I can pay to you. I've never had the best compliment. Please make some noise. But let me finish, though. I had no idea what to expect when I came here. I mean, I rely on my grandson.
Starting point is 02:53:33 He don't talk. He don't talk, so he ain't said a damn thing. And Free talks like this. I mean, they tried to explain me the gravity or the reach of this whole concept that you guys are doing. But I'm not part of this social media thing. I hate social media, but I'm not going to get into that. That's a whole other thing. There's nothing wrong with that.
Starting point is 02:53:57 But I had no idea of what to expect when I came here. Do you want a bottle of champagne? I'm not going to have another shot. I ain't going to have another shot for another 30 years when I came here. Do you want a bottle of champagne? No, I don't want a bottle of champagne. I'm not going to have another shot of you. I'm going to have another shot of you. I'm going to have another 30 years when I leave here. But take it home. No, no. If I can say, I'm just pouring out my heart,
Starting point is 02:54:16 and you can cut it and anything. No, no, no. You're not cutting anything. But I had no idea what to expect when I came here. And when somebody tell me about a thing about Green Champ Sounds crazy. It does sound crazy.
Starting point is 02:54:34 And I Googled it. Yeah, they told me, but it's still like... But you're from the Rock and Roll era, so it shouldn't sound that crazy. Right, right. But I had no idea, so I had to Google it. I didn't know what the hell was going on. I'm giving you my number, nigga. You got my personal number.
Starting point is 02:54:50 Listen, man, with the love you showed and the sincerity and the genuineness that you show, it ain't about the podcast. It's about something that, and the success of your program transcends all that other bullshit that you see. You're a real dude, man. And I don't say that to anybody. And I say that with all the sincerity of my heart. Yeah, no, I'm saying the whole concept, it ain't about that. Appreciate it. And I hope it ain't that you don't think that it's the couple of shots that I had.
Starting point is 02:55:25 No, it's not. It ain't about the shots. But the reason for your success is the genuineness that you guys portray. And hopefully the reason if we're going to be successful with this product is because of the genuineness and the love so That's it. That's it. That's all right. That's all right. That's it. ...JEFN. From Interval Presents, executive producers Alan Coy and Jake Kleinberg.
Starting point is 02:56:12 Listen to Drink Champs on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly, DJ EFN and NORE. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials. That's at Drink Champs across all platforms. At TheRealNoriega on IG. At Noriega on Twitter. Mine is at Who's Crazy on IG. At DJ EFN on Twitter.
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