Drink Champs - Episode 364 w/ Lost Boyz

Episode Date: May 19, 2023

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the Champs chop it up with the legendary group, Lost Boyz!Lost Boyz share their journey in hip-hop. The group talks about their origin story, careers and their discography including the hit single “Renee” and much much more! Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise for the Lost Boyz!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com  Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps  DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions  N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you know, going through their catalog, you know what I mean? I'm just like, damn, these records could work right now. You know what I mean? Put it on for representing and always put Queens on the map. Put Queens first. It was making global music. These guys stood the test of time.

And I just can't wait to see what's more to come. In case you don't know who the fuck we talking about, we talking about the one and only, motherfucking Lil' Boys of the Building. Now, Off Top, our show is about giving flowers, so we're going to give flowers Off Top.

Where's the flowers at, Paul? We're going to give the flowers Off Top, man. Off Top. Off Top. And obviously, in memory of your father. Definitely, definitely. In memory of your father. in memory of your father. Definitely, definitely.

Fire. Fire. Fire. Fire. And you got pretty loose flowers too. Yeah, we got pretty loose flowers. You guys can take them. Yup, yup, yup.

So off top, off top I got to ask. That's hard. Would y'all do a versus and who would y'all want to do a versus against? I already got my pick. I'll take my answer. I say we would be a great challenge, basically a good show

for like, Nori by Nature. Nice. You went over my head. You went over my head with that one. What you think? Great show. I ain't going to lie, I think that would be a great show too, but honestly when you think of the lowest boys I ain't going to lie. I think that'll be a great show, too. But honestly, when you think of the Lost Boys, like you said, you got to go anthem. So I think I second on some Naughty by Nature because they definitely came with them anthems.

And you know, when the Lost Boys stepped on the scene, they came through crushing. Lights, pools, beamers in the bins. Music make me hot. You feel me? Lights, camera, action. We're just still crushing in the spots today. Right. You feel me? And what camera, action, this shit is still crushing in the spot today. Right. You feel me? And what you say, Chief?

You know what he bought next? I'll go with anybody, let's get it. You know what I thought of? Or did someone else say this? I think maybe Diego might have said this. The Beatnuts. Mmm. Yeah.

Another queen. Another, yeah, yeah. I'm about to have some fun. I just, whatever, let's go. You know what I mean? Did you ever speak to Swizz about this? Nah Another queen. Another, yeah, yeah. I'm about to have some fun. I just, whatever, let's go. You know what I mean? Did you ever speak to Swiss about this? Nah, nah. Nah, nothing?

But are you interested in doing that, though? I mean, if the time calls for it, we definitely down with whatever goes down. You know what I mean? So, God's a genius. Right. We ready to play ball. No question. Nah, man.

When I kept listening to the music, I'm like, damn, this is timeless music. Did you know he was making timeless music? And the stories that y'all was telling, like, how did you come up with that? Yo, basically, man, like, you know, me writing my music and while we was coming up with my man Spick Nice and Pretty Lou and all of that, we was like Mama Blackwell Basement, smoking weed and getting our 40s on and just living our life. Music is just what we was made of. You know what I'm saying? I met Spig from summer school, coming through with the Trooper Jeep.

And Freaky Ty, you met fixing your refrigerator? Grandma's crib. I met him over at, shout out to Champ. You already know. Shout out to OG, my grandpa. Grandpa Champ. That's the Freaky Ty's son. Yes, yes, yes, yes. God damn it. Freaky Ty in the building, no grandpa. That's the Spooky Todd son. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, God damn it.

Spooky Todd in the building, no question. That's right. We all just came together like that, and writing music just came from the heart. I need to know that story true. You met Spooky Todd from Fixing the Refrigerator? His pops champs, no doubt. From Fixing the Refrigerator. Came through Fixing Grandma's Seats, renewing the kitchen, dude.

That's crazy. We connected from there, you know what I mean? Uh-huh. And from there, we just started that brotherhood right there. Boom. Raymond Rogers,

Mr. Cheeks, Freaky Todd, you know what I'm saying? We just ran with that, you know what I'm saying? Then we bumped into them boys, speaking nice.

We got Pretty Lou already. Eric, we just killed. Y'all went to school together, right? Yeah. Okay. Yeah,

John Adams. Y'all, John Adams. John Adams. That makes me know it's John Adams. How about the name, though? How did y'all come up with the name, The Lost Boys?

Oh, I don't know. Well, basically, there was a crew now called The Lost Boys, Born King and... Born King is the head of the elves. Yeah. Head of the elves. So that was a crew crew. Like a street crew, right?

Not like a rapper. So what made y'all pick that for a rapper name? I mean, one day I was, he's in and out. You know what I'm saying? In our society sometimes. So one time he came back and me and him seen each other on the, thank you very much. We seen each other on the block and he was like yo man

every time i come back guys doing your handshake and doing all this and y'all meet in front of the coliseum and blah blah he was like yo man y'all acting like lost boys y'all got people like lost boys and that was like i was like that was like one of my favorite movies you know the movie didn't come out too long ago right right, right, right. So. Now, who was Dollar Bill? What, a fight? Dollar Bill? Yeah, who was Dollar Bill?

Dollar Bill. One of the OGs, you know what I mean? Okay. One of the, that taught us, showed us the ropes, how to, you know, get down on the block and all of that. So, he's always a, he's a powerful, powerful person in our life. And that was a part of the beginning of the LBs as well? All of them, my spouse was Dalu, R.I.P. Dalu. Mal beginning of the LBs as well? All of them. Daloo, R.I.P. Daloo. Malik, you know what I'm saying?

My man, Mel Kwan and all them boys. They was the cast that told us we could do better than what we was doing out in the streets and shit like that. You know what I mean? Go to school and all that. We went to school and played ball. You know the situation and all that. But they was the OGs looking out for us. you know what I'm saying, following their footsteps. We followed them in the beginning, you know what I mean?

Learning how to do what we was doing at the time. So, yeah, they played a big part in my life and his life. I mean, the hood, basically. Now, one thing, me coming from Queens, and I thought that was a South Jamaica thing. Like, the way y'all was giving fives and, like, you know what I mean? Because I didn't see that before. Like, that wasn't, like, a gang thing or was it a gang thing? No, no.

It's just a salute to the family. Yeah. Right. Right. I see y'all still doing it. I was like, this nigga, she still got it. I was over there getting the haircut. I said, I was looking. I was like, oh, yeah. I said, damn, they still got it. I'm looking. getting the haircut. I said, I was looking.

I said, oh, God. Yeah, I said, damn, he still got it. I'm looking. Because I never could do the handshake. You know what I mean? I didn't have a handshake. I know he was trying it at the show one night. So, yeah. He was going at it.

Yeah, yeah. So, let's get to the music, right? I got so much notes, man. I'm so proud of doing this interview right now. I'm a Queens brother. You know what I'm saying? And I wanted to give you time out. I really was like, damn, listening to the music,

it really brought me back. It really brought me back to Queens, right? But here's the crazy shit. I traveled the world, and so I got different feelings of y'all music. It's not just me identifying and just in Queens. No doubt. I went around the world and heard y'all music. So like how does that feel to make global music? Yo, that shit is crazy.

Like every barbecue, one of y'all, one to five of y'all joints is coming on out. They gon' get crazy. Yo, that shit is an honor to be making music that's still timeless. You know what I mean? You could go to the spot and be just chilling and your joint come on as bananas. You know what I mean? Bring up with your shorty.

She goes to the club. She's playing your joint. You can't escape me. You know what I mean? It was crazy, though, that you said that because I got the privilege to go on tour with C's. We went to Germany. You feel me?

When I tell you they was going so crazy, we was on tour with Ceeqs, we went to Germany. You feel me? When I tell you, they was going so crazy. We was on tour with KRS-One. It was Lords of the Underground, Smith & Wesson, Mobb Deep, Havoc was dead. You feel me? So they going crazy, but the Lost Boys music resonated so crazy in Germany, my pops got to cut 1,000, 2,000, 3,000 problems on illegal drug money. The DJ spun that. they was singing it in German Freaky Top

you know they singing it we ain't even got we got the mic to the crowd and they spitting cuts so I'm like yo this music resonate around the world we got fans in Africa

hey me I'm reaching out like yo I love you know the legacy that y'all got going like it's golden do y'all think that the love of hip hop lives more in Europe than it does in America right now? I do.

Even beyond Europe. Latin America and Africa. Going to C.C.'s is just so typical, right? Yeah, it's like they love you more. It's like they don't see you every day. Yeah, exactly. It's not an everyday thing. America see us every day.

It's just like, shit, you go over there, it's like, yo, Royals are crazy. You know what I mean? But nah, man, Boom Corcita's just so kind of, it's dope, man. It's dope. The crowd is crazy.

Y'all just seen, we seen the Wu-Tang show that he's had over there? In Latin America. Yeah. It was doing Columbia, I think Argentina. Way dancing,

still popping. Yep. Elements, everything, yeah. London, what's my man Mike over there in London, he got the pop and graffiti. Yep. The elements, everything, yeah. London. What's my man Mike over there in London? He got the little hip-hop

chip shop out there in London. You ever been there? No, I ain't been in that one. You ain't been there? Uh-uh, word. Yo, it's crazy over there. The chip shop out in London. It's like just hip-hop all day.

They be DJing while you're eating your food and all kinds of crazy stuff. What's the wildest place you went to Had a book to show at Africa Africa

Oh wow What part of Africa Tanzania Cape Town Who been home Just came back from Johannesburg That's crazy

Wasn't that like the first rap group To perform all that Tanzania First one down there First rap artist To perform in Africa. In Africa. Whole Africa. At the time.

The person before us, they were just saying, Coolio was the person that was before us. Oh, shit. Wow. First rap group. So first rap group. Definitely RIP Coolio. Wow.

Yeah, definitely RIP Coolio, but I wanted to make some noise for being the first rap group to pull back. We still got Lost Boy Jeeps over there. They're riding around the Lost Boy trucks, you know what I mean? It's crazy out there

in Africa. They're bugging out. South Africa, no question. Oh, yeah. So let's go to the lifestyles of the rich and the shameless. How did y'all come up what was what was that what was what was you living like in that moment you know uh lifestyles of rich and

shameless is about you know story of the drug dealers in our neighborhood you know we lost a lot of good dudes that was you know hustling but giving back to the other not even just just you know it was um shout out to uh cooler b you know i'm saying 10 40p you know i mean one of the original dudes that ever got us hip to grandmaster vick and blended the tapes and all of that so i mean like jg all the lifestyles have been shameless just like some die with the name some die man you the name. You don't hear about certain cats that died, that was hustling in the hood and got killed, but, you know, you hear about, like, Escobar and all of them names like that.

Feel me? So it was just that kind of thought, like, you know what I mean? Like, you don't really hear about Paris that got killed down in Korea and all of that. You know what I mean? Some little dudes that we looked up to in the hood. So that was what it was really about. How you feel about that? and all of that, you know what I mean? Some little dudes that we looked up to in the hood.

That was what it was really about. How you feel about that? I feel the same, that's what's in it. We was laying it down, just feeling like that. Lifestyles of the Ridgid Shines. I said everyday street lights. And who produced that record? Who be?

Motherfuckin' EZ-Mo B. Yeah, that's EZ-Mo B. Motherfuckin' EZ-Mo B. Shout out to the God EZ-Mo B? Yeah, that's EZ-Mo B. Motherfucking EZ-Mo B. Shout out to the guardian of EZ-Mo B. All body know now. Oh, yeah, he's one of the dopest dudes that we ever connected with, man. Fast, fast, fast, man.

Cool ass nigga. You ever connected with Tupac? Tupac? Yeah. The story about Tupac, we connected with Tupac, that was back in like VA days, you know what I'm saying?

We need to hear that. We need to watch for that, right, Quade? So, nah was back in, like, VA days, you know what I'm saying? We need to hear that. We need to watch that, right, Quade? So, no, no. Easy Moby made you think of that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We was out in VA one night at the, what, the bridge or something like that. And they booked Tupac to come out to perform. He was a wild cowboy at that time, you know what I mean?

Talk mad shit and do crazy shit. But, yeah, that's the only time we met him. And what version is that? When he know what I mean? Talk mad shit and do crazy shit, but yeah, that's the only time we met him. And what version is that? When he was still doing Juice? Nah, nah. That was when he first... Like we went to Defro? They call it crew.

R.I.P. With Digital Underground? Digital Underground. Oh, Digital Underground. Oh, and he was already well enough? He was getting into that. Right. He was way before that.

You know what I'm saying? We met then. Wow. Yeah, early days. All right. He was a wild cowboy then, We met that. Wow. Yeah, early days. All right. He was a wild cowboy then. Oh, shit. How about Big?

Biggie? Biggie, yeah. That's family, no question. We met that guy early. I mean, like, when I met him from back in the days when Diddy first got his deal with Arista and all of that fly shit. Right, yeah.

That's our transition, yeah. That's our transition. We used to hang around there. I didn't even know we was doing street team and shit, but we was. You know what I mean? Right.

My man is about to come out. Kill him. Let's go. Party and shit. Party and shit. I remember we had some good memories in Vegas.

He's a hard body. That's my man. I remember when he was the last time I seen him he was in a wheelchair. He was talking hard body. That's my man. I remember when he was the last time I seen him he was in a wheelchair. He talking about look what C's did to me. That was the last night

you seen him, right? That was awesome. I said, I see you. Give me that blunt. Last time we seen the big B.I.G. Good peoples, man. No question.

We was mad at that time when he was doing that music. I fucked your bitch and all of that shit. I hit him up. We was mad at Pac that time. He was doing that music. I fucked your bitch and all of that shit. I hit him up. We was kind of revved up. They used to be mad

because we was the party dudes back in them times. He was like, yo man, why y'all ain't never in my videos? You see my videos where everybody's in the video. And this is Pac saying that to y'all? No, this is Big. Big was like, yo man, we did, okay. Big was like, yo, man, we did this and that. So I was like, yo, man, we be working.

You know, it was like the hardest working rap group at the time. Wow. I mean, airport outside. Y'all know what it was, them days back when we was living. Yeah, yeah, hell yeah. See, that nigga, let's act up there. Nah, nah, nah. We was outside with y'all.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all niggas, you already know. You an affluence to us. You know that, right? Nah, no, no, no, it was your day, baby. No, no, no, no. Nah, nah, nah. Man, we was outside with y'all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all niggas, you already know. You're an influence to us. You know that, right? Nah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is your day, my brother. This is your day, my brother. This is Lost Boys Day.

Like, Queens Day? They have a Queens Day? This is Lost Boys Day. This is your time for your flowers. You have to deserve it. This is real shit. So we want to get into everything. That's why we want to ask. We want to ask anything.

All right. Appreciate it. Well, get up. Y'all got quick time or slime ready yet? All right, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. All right, kid. But you say you're doing street team. Street team for yourselves or for somebody else?

Nah, it was... I mean, we was running around. Y'all was doing it for... It was the same street team working for the... Like, Puffy had his guys. Right. He came from where we was at he came from uptown so his he knew all the street team he didn't have no street team or arister so now

he using both of them he using our street team on both things so you it might be lost boys on this side right and then it'd be big mac on the other side. Oh, yeah, Big Mac. I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The picket side. Yeah, the picket side. That's when the street teams was street. Right, right. So we was like, he had both teams. I was really giving out this nigga's flyers, though.

He was just street team. I was out of Philly with this nigga. I was a part of the street team real quick. I was close to the street team, but I was just going at you. That's real. Now, earlier you said Queen. I was assuming you meant Queenpin? No, Queen Josephine.

Oh, Queen Josephine. Okay, all right, cool, cool. Because I always wanted to ask, with a Party Ain't a Party remix, it doesn't credit no one on the remix. Do you notice that? No I'll be check up another but the hello What days the month is it? Let's get it. But nah, everything good, man. I love making music and popping off, man.

This shit is just, we came a long way to doing this shit, you know what I mean? So it's pretty honored to be on on Dream Champs and all that fly shit like that. Let me ask y'all, because y'all came out at the right time, right? It felt like Nas had dropped it was a special time in hip hop right it was like for me that's how I remember it because like I'm I'm like Queens so it was like Nas dropped right then I think Mob dropped and then y'all dropped like right after and I remember I remember it being, am I correct? I don't know.

I just, you got the Onyx in there. Okay, oh my man, you got the Onyx in there. Oh yeah, yeah. Onyx in there was nice.

I thought Onyx came before Mob. Yeah, they did. They did, right? Remember, Mobb D, they came out mad early before.

Right, yeah, yeah, but that didn't count. Juvenile Hell and all that. That didn't count. So, what I'm saying, I mean like, come on, the real but that didn't count. Juvenile Hell and all that stuff. That didn't count. So, what I'm saying...

It do count. It do count. I mean, like, come on. The real albums are infamous, man. Like, the real albums, you like, started from there, man. I bet you they say that ain't count.

But, what I'm saying, was that pressure? You know, not only to make it out the hood, but coming from Queens because these was legendary groups that came right before y'all. You know what I'm saying?

Like you said, Onyx, Mobb Deep, and Nas. Like, holy shit, that's some, was it pressure? Or was it like, fuck that? Let's go. That was more of an amp and a push, you know what I mean? Queens is getting the money. Like, let's pop off.

Like it's Motown. It took us 10 years to get that far. I mean, who's in Bailey Park doing it? You know what I mean? Grandmaster Big, Dada Rock, Sp spain g and all them boys out there big jt and everything the witch young boys y'all don't know what he's talking about you got it over there cool street legend like yeah shirt king shirts on come Come on, goddammit. I ain't experienced. That's a Jeff Star.

I know him now. Show them their respect. Salute to all the legends, man, the OGs. That paved the way for us. Good, man. That was, that was, that was, that was influence, you know what I mean? Like, let's go. But, yeah, we was good.

Well, yeah, we just had to make sure we set an outstanding. We had our own little, you know, our own lane and shit. So, we wasn't even looking at it like, like looking at it like we was just coming out with our shit that we took so long to come out with. You know what I mean? Let's go bang out. So once we got a chance to make some music, man, we wasn't thinking about none of that.

We was just rocking and rolling. It was the honor to get on the stage with dudes like rocking with Naughty by Nature and all of that. You know what I'm saying? First came in the game. What's that? Hot 97 in the game. All right. What's that? Hot 97. Summer Jam?

Summer Jam. You know all that? Shit like that is dope. You know what was different for me to witness y'all? Like I said, like the mob, you know, it was making very, very, very serious music. Nas making very serious music. You guys were making very serious music. But it seemed like to me you guys was having fun.

Right. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I always used to be like, like, y'all with me dancing and, like, and I'm like, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like

y'all was the first street music that was fun. Is that accurate? Not only by nature, too. Like, because y'all... Just a quote from Freaky Todd, rest in peace. He's like,

we put the soul back in music right in the hip-hop Right because it was going one way right and it was like getting gangsta and all that stuff So now everybody's standing the wall at the party Yeah, and then we got that that groove to make you like fuck and let's just Just free yourself Smoking weed and drinking and making music. That's what life is about. By the way, is you drinking?

I didn't see you take a sip next. I'm watching you, man. I'm getting smooth. Start loosening up the time. We're about to play the game, Quick Time with Slam. This is our game. We play with everybody. We'll give you multiple choice.

If you be politically correct, you got to take a shot. Pick both. Take a shot. If not, you know. We drinking with you. Yeah, we drinking with you, though. We ain't leaving y'all out there. We watching you, champs.

Okay. We watching. All right, so. We be watching. Everybody ready? The glass will pour up now. Yeah. I'm going to do the drink champ glass.

That's the thing. Pour short because it's a long game. Oh, man, get ready. Yeah, yeah, so we do a little. They ain't got to be big shots. You don't got to go full on shots. You got to go crazy. We ain't got nothing to prove.

Same thing. Yeah. Thank you. Water. Okay, okay. Some water. All right. You got the first one?

Yeah. All right. Tupac or DMX? DMX all day. That's a fact. Okay. I'm with him. You're sticking with DMX?

Okay. Okay. I ain't going to be biased. You got it? Yeah, you do the next one. Let's go. Naughty by Nature or Lords of the Underground? Oh.

Taking a shot? Taking a shot? We're taking a shot, niggas. That means you're going to take a shot. Either Usain Bolt or neither. I'm saying, I can't even go. I love them niggas. All right, cool.

Goddamn. We're going to shot that right here? Yeah, yeah. Hold on. She coming. Unravel. Okay. All right, cool.

Thank you. Yeah, I got it. I'm going to say both. Yeah, both? OK, cool. Take a shot. Take a shot. We can't afford for a different answer.

Yeah, yeah. Salud. Salud. Cheers, cheers. Cheers, cheers. To Lost Boys, though. Make some noise! Hey!

Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! I'm going to make some noise! We have Bob D. Woo!

Woo! We have Bob D. or M.O.P.? That's a good one. That's a good one. Damn it, man. I'm going to have to take this shot. I'm going to take this shot, too. Why would you do that?

You be giving all the others the easy questions. Nah, nah, I'll give them the legendary questions. You got to play it up back there. By the way, yeah. He's giving them smoke. Listen, that's our producers right back there. So they look at you and they make these questions up as you go. They made up on the spot.

It's never like that. They slice you up. Yeah, they analyze you as soon as you walk in. We took a shot? We drank that? Oh, yeah. I think he's ready for the next one. I took mine. Oh, he's ready for the next one. He's cheating? Oh, yeah. I think he's ready for the next one. I took mine.

Oh, he's ready for the next one. He's cheating. He's cheating. Yeah, I'm ready for the next one. Oh, you took yours? Oh, shit, yeah. Oh, you're drinking for that one? I'm using the same cup.

That's the reason why. Yeah. Oh. Which one was the biggie? Cowboy. Wild cowboy. Dirty glass. Oh, yeah, yeah.

I don't want no tequila. You might as well drink two at a time while you're at it. Keep me on whiskey. Let me smell it. I can probably tell. I can probably tell. I can't tell. That is tequila. That is habiki. Let me get that over here.

That's habiki. Did you really come out here just to smell it, Lee? Yeah. You know what I can tell? I hate tequila, so I'm going to smell that. Jamie, you might as well bring two at a time just to... I'm working on it. So we drinking to that, right?

Yeah, we drinking to that one. Yeah, I'm going to use the same cup. What the hell are we drinking? Okay, all right. Rap City or Video Music Box? Oh, man, Video Music Box. No doubt. I'm a Rap City nigga.

I'm a young nigga. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to go. You got to go Rap City. Ooh, I got a good one. It's yeah, yeah, you gotta go. You gotta go rap city. Even though you ain't going rap city. Ooh, I got a good one. This is a good one. Biggie or Big Al? Let me get my shit together.

Take the shot. I don't even want to talk. You ain't got to bring that out no more. And rest in peace to both. Biggie and Big Al. You ain't got to take the big shots shots you can keep us more yeah yeah keep it small yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we got a hundred more thank you hey I bet there's next one all right NWA a public enemy who and I'll be way always like the NWA against Wu Tang NWA to air a couple of good joints that I love

yeah okay okay okay I go for him they go for me and do you want public enemy no no nobody cool cool I mean I ain cool. No shot on that one. I ain't saying nothing. This is the shot for the next one. Yeah, this is the shot for the next one. Positive. Some motherfucker. 100 miles of running, nigga.

Let's go. Thank you. You got it? One of these, we skipping. Oh, yeah. These guys are foul over there. They foul over there. What they skipping?

Coogee Raps or Kumo D? Coogee Raps. What do you mean? Yeah, he from Coogee. He from Coogee. There's a note to that. There's another one for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You going G-Rap too? I'm going with G-Rap because that's my man. But Kumo D was like, I fucking love him. No, no, no, we ain't taking that from Kumo D. We ain't taking that from him. None of this is a diss out of anybody. My first, first, first, second record that I bought was Treacherous 3. This is like in, this is like 80.

My own little bit of money that I was like this. Going to the record store by myself. Kumo D's a pioneer, originator. Yeah, that's that I was like this. What? Going to the record store by myself. Jumo, these are... Three heartbeats. A pioneer, originator. Yeah. That's what I was like. LL Cool J or Big Daddy King?

I got to take a damn shot, dog. I got my shot ready. Oh, yeah. I got my shot ready. You got ready? You got your shot ready? Let's go. Yeah, so I look.

So I look. So I look. So I look. So I look. Shit. Won't tell you. Ooh. That's a little... I just already let's yeah, so I look yeah, I look yeah Next one when is this game over to start? Slices I'm making okay. I like the decision Yeah, you do it yourself ready I call it a pun of cannabis

I'm going with big pun. That's my man. That's my... I mean... Because y'all were tight with cannabis. Yeah, yeah. We brought him in the game. I'm going with my man cannabis.

Okay. Facts. All right. Because, you know, that's my answer. Okay. Shout-outs to the big pun. My doggy, no doubt. Rest in peace. He has big, that's my answer. Okay. Shout out to the big pun, my doggy, no doubt. Rest in peace, big pun. Thanks.

Roxanne, Shantae, or Moni Love? Roxanne all day. I mean, I didn't mean to say it like that, but you know. Shanty. I ain't going to lie, y'all queens bias like me. I told you. I told you. Queen, queen, queen, queen, queen, queen, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm going with Jada. I'm going with Jada. You're going with Jada?

I love Fab. I love both them niggas. Fab got some shit. Fab, I ain't off fun. Those are both my brothers. That's why I drink too. I like this one. New Jack City or King of New York?

Mmm. Damn, this nigga clean. He Queens us to death. I'm going with Queen. I'm going with Queen, so that one. I'm going to have to go with New Jack City. I mean, King of New York. Really? Christopher Walken.

Let's get it. No question about it. King of New York. That was New Jack City. Travel lodge and all that. That was Queen. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

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All right, cool. Shout out to Nas. You got nervous? I got nervous. I'll get the next one. Easy Moby or P-Rock? All right, cool. Shout out to Nas. You got nervous? I got nervous. All right, cool. I'll get the next one. All right, here we go. Easy Mo B or P-Rock? Easy Mo B or P-Rock.

Oh, I got to drink. I got to share. Oh, fuck. I got to drink. I can't. See, the game fucks me up, too. Don't, by the way. Not just y'all.

Follow. Follow. I didn't do it. That's crazy. I got the DD here, though. Designated jungle. Come on Come on man We in the building Good She's fast

She's a ninja Tribe Called Quest Thanks Or Brand Nubia Say what? Tribe Called Quest or Brand Nubia I'm going with Tribe I'm going Brand Nubia

It's the first time against Queens Yeah The first pick Yeah I'm going to take Tribe. I'm going brand newbie. It's the first time against Queens. Yeah. The first pick. Yeah. I'm going to take a shot for me being wrong. Not because he said King of New York, too. So he did go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay. Yeah, you got the next one? Rest in peace. Dog. I'm dog. Thanks. Yeah, rest in peace, Fart. No question.

It's just down to Linden. I got the next one. Got it? Yeah. Fat Joe or Rick Ross? Fat Joe. Joey Crack. Dave, you crazy.

Woo. Hold on now. I ain't going to say that. You got it flow, Joe. Nah, that's all good. Jesus. Death Row. Shout out to that.

Or Bad Boy. Definitely Bad Boy. Shit. I have to fall into the category of a bad boy? Definitely bad boy. I have to fall into the category of a bad boy. But you thought about it for a second. You thought about it for a second. No, no, no. I'm just feeling all respect out. But you got to go with my mans in them over there.

Okay. G-Dep and all them boys. Okay. You got it? I got it. You want to take mine? Karis, one or Rakim? Oh, come on. Come on. We got to take it. I got it. I'm going to take mine. Karis, one of Rakim. Oh,

come on. Come on, we got to take it. I wouldn't even let y'all answer. It can't be nothing else. They just don't automatically. Wait, did you have an answer for that?

I ain't got no answer. Yeah, I feel like you did. You might as well take that. Oh, I like this one. What kind of cups we got to take? Boys in the hood

or menace to society? Boys in the Hood, baby. That's a fact. Get a body. Get a body. Yes. Shout out to the Q. No question.

Analog or digital? What the fuck I got? We sound crispy? Analog. Analog. Remember, analog is like That's the most work I got. We sound crispy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Analog. Remember, analog is like the two-inch rails. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The real you is Pro Tools.

Yeah. My bad. I guess it would be... I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest. I'd say analog sound better. Yes. Digital is more convenient.

Yes. I'm going to be honest. Because you remember back then when we were making music? I'm sorry to sound like the old guys. We are the old guys. We are. All right. Come down.

Come down. We couldn't. We all had to make music together. When you had a feature, that guy had to come. You couldn't have to send him a goddamn. The rails was like this big. It was like little dogs. You know what I'm saying?

Cutting the rails. Cutting that shit. Good time. First off, I'm going to be honest. I'm sorry. Yo, I never used to punch in. Because when I started making music, I had to go all the way through.

And if I had to punch in, you have to tape the shit, go rewind. So tragedy rung me to this game. We used to save money. We was like, yo, you ain't. So if your rhymes ain't wrote, I wouldn't even go to the studio. I would never go to the studio without making three to five records because I couldn't afford wasting fucking studio time.

You know what I'm saying? You had to do it in one take. And I did. It's like Super Thug. What had to do it in one take. You had to do it. And I did. It's like Super Thug, what, what, what? That's recorded in one take. That's one take. And what was you counting the bars?

I love that story. I've told it a million times, but I love that story. Yes, yes, yes. I'm just being honest. So when we ask that question, I got a little hype. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because analog sounds better because I love how all the features sound back in the days. Like y'all was in the same room. Y'all had to smoke each other's weed. Y'all had to smoke each other's weed. Y'all had to smell each other's cologne. You know what I'm saying?

And like, you had to sit around and vibe out. And you know what I mean? If you ain't like somebody on the record, you can tell. You know what I mean? You can tell because y'all was in the same room. Is there a story here? I'm saying that when he talk, I know what he talking about. It's like, damn, he talking about like when we were in the studio with Love by Starsky, RP.

Right, oh, RP. We did the, you know what I mean, the 8 Million Story joint, man. Game 2 we play. It's crazy. So, I mean, being in the studio is dope when you're with the artists. It's crazy. It's much better. It's like this.

Yeah, exactly, exactly. Let's make a song. Let's make a song. Exactly like this. Everybody chilling, making them hits, and bing bing. Queen Latifah or MC Lyte? Oh, shit. Queen.

God damn, kid. Queen Latifah. Oh, man. I got it. We need them both on the show, by the way. Yeah, yeah. So two questions. Two questions.

I like both. I'm taking a shot for both, because we need them both on the show. So me, Queen, I'm taking a shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm taking a shot for both because we need them both on the show. So, to the queen? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm taking a shot. Yeah, I got to take a guess. I can't do nothing.

I can't mention it. Let's go. Nah, we ain't like... I like this one, too. It's stacking up. Is we in Germany? Right. This is what we do in Germany.

Do we shine? Onyx or Black Moon? Onyx or Black Moon? Onyx or Black Moon. Onyx or Black Moon. I'm going with the Onyx. I'm going with the Onyx. Our brother. You already know.

Okay. They say Queens, Queens, Queens, Queens. Oh, so you don't take the shot. No, we don't take it. We still use it. I'm so used to taking the shot. I'm like, what are you doing? Now, this is deep.

I want... It's the last one, right? It's the last one. We went hard. Uh-huh. She changed the game just now. Nigga's got a flight to catch. He's got to jump at the plane.

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That shit is called... That shit is called... That shit is called... That shit is called... That shit is called... That shit is called... That shit is called... That shit is called... That shit is called... That shit is called... That's cold right there, buddy. And I want each of y'all to answer this. Loyalty or respect?

Loyalty. I'm a loyalty like a motherfucker. Lost boys loving loyalty. You already know. The hell's always up. Definitely. You got loyalty. It comes with the respect.

It comes, yeah. Loyalty. You know what I mean? Me and your friends, we always say this is the only trick question in this whole shit. To us, it's like both. Yeah.

Right. But you can't have one without the other. You feel me? Yeah. Like love and marriage. You can't have one without the other. Let's go. Love and marriage.

Love and marriage. Yes, there is a little Dick Barrett. I tell you, brother, you can't have one without the Barrett. You dig it. You dig it. You dig it. You dig it. You dig it.

You dig it. You dig it. You dig it. You dig it. You dig it. You dig it. You dig it. You dig it. You dig even the youngies know that. Remember that. Woo, holy shit.

Now I'm hot as hell. Al Bundy all day. Yo, so, Lloyd Banks had a record, Lex Coop's Beamers in the Benz. Now it's Beamer Benz and Bentley. Beamer Benz and Bentley. Do you think that he was paying homage to

Lex Jeep's Beamer, Coop's Beamer in the Benz? Of course, of course. Who else would be doing that? No, I don't know. that he was paying homage to Lex, Lex, Jeeps, Beeman, Coops, Beeman, and the Benz? Of course, of course. Who else would be doing that? No,

I don't know. I say of course. Yo, that's dope. I think I heard him say something like that. Yeah. Shout out to Lloyd Banks. You know what I mean?

South side of the building. South side of the building. South side all day. No question. Listen, nah, shout out to that record. You know what I mean?

You already know. Right. It was a hard one. It to that record, you know what I mean? You already know. Right. It was a hard one. It vibes like that, you know what I mean? It's us. But yeah, but describe the time where y'all dropped. Yeah, your record. Let's Goosebeamers in the Benz.

Yes, please. You seen the video? Of course. Of course. I wanted to be. That's one of them videos I was like, I want to be in. Boy, that's my babe. Those was the highest cars out there.

We had some fun doing that, man. Brought the whole hood out. Shout out to all of them that said we wasn't going to do it when we were sitting on the bench. When did y'all film that? Linkin Park? What was that? Linkin Park? Good question.

Shout out to Linkin Park. All my OGs. AJ across the street, you already know I got to shout you out, nigga. You know what I'm saying? The whole neighborhood came'm saying The whole neighborhood Came out The whole neighborhood Came out man

We the first niggas in New York With the motherfucking With the bouncing cars The hydraulic cars Motorcycles And all that I arranged that

I arranged that Let's go back a little bit From when y'all Meet Start making music What's bit From when y'all Meet Start making music What's happening How do y'all get to that record deal What's that process

Charles Suit Oh no question bud It came before You know what I mean We was going hard Before we met Charles Suit Ain't Teddy Riley got something to do with this too All of them got a part in this game

Yeah but even before that How do you even get to that Well we was just, what we doing? You go ahead, dude. Yeah, we got y'all looking up now. Now, now, now. Now you saw stuff. I got all the plans.

I'll wait on you. I'll wait on you. Go ahead, man. Even going back and forth through up and down 95, going to Virginia and stuff like that. And then basically, Chiefs planted a seed down there. In Virginia?

In Virginia, Norfolk. So, you know, we crew. It's good, it's good. We started going down there. And then,

you know, migrating back and forth and stuff like that. Hold on, let me tell you how we got down there the first time. Okay.

The rum shaker, right? All you want to do is boom, zoom, zoom, zoom. What's that?

It's that Teddy Riley. My cousin Jeff Starr. Hard body. Put us all on to the game. That's family? Just Starr, Shelson Knight, Kashim and all that. You already know.

I'm just cutting real quick. I was out there Riding around My man Rolla Doe He's doing You remember Capital Cuts If y'all don't know

Norfolk State And all that They're low now You know what I mean Queen Josephine You know what I mean You know what I mean We was outside man

Heavy in the early 90s 91 you know what I mean Like doing our damn thing Shout out to um God damn, Jesse West. Holy shit. Jesse West.

I gotta get Jesse. I gotta get Jesse West. Rocking on your radio, dawg. See, I'm talking about going to the Bronx and bing, bing, bing, bing, and then we ended up

in Virginia, you hear me? Right. So y'all went to Virginia because you was trying to be in the video? No, I went to Virginia because I've seen my cousin was making the damn jackets from Teddy Riley and them niggas. Wow. Take your rump video.

Wow. Your cousin down there doing the damn thing. I'm talking about, you remember them nice biggest clothes, the shades, man. Guns on the floor. It's dice game time, baby. Come on, this early. I don't want to go too far, but I'm just saying. Life is crazy. We went down there early, you know what I'm saying? Damn. Prince of San Role, baby. Shouts to church, as I say. Broadway.

Broadway. Uncle Bob and all them boys. Sweet Pea Whittaker and that thing. I'm just saying. He was there. He was there. So what happens? Do you actually link with Teddy Wilder?

Do you get with him? Yeah, we link with him at... What we was doing? Smoking weed in front of the studio. Wait for the nigga to come through. I don't even... Wait, what? to come through it. I mean. Wait, what?

The shit was crazy. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. Say it. We seen a lot of people. The most boy game is crazy. We seen a lot of people. We need clarity on this. I need clarity.

All right, we need clarity. We bump into a lot of people. We did a lot of things. See your cousin doing his thing. You go out there to see your cousin. You already had music, though. You had a demo or something? Nah.

We just living, like, rapping over just niggas' tracks. Like, we was the niggas from Basie. I'm telling you, we was the niggas from Basie Park. Boom, boom. Rapping over tracks. You know what I mean? Grandmaster Dick DJing and all that. But not recording it?

No. I mean, we recorded it in my basement. Right. Recording stuff like that. So you had something. We had something to show Teddy Riley and Casey. We had something, like, so we had a demo. What's that called? Nah, we didn't even do that. So you had something. We had something to show Teddy Riley in case. You had something like, so you had a demo, was that called? Nah, we didn't even do it.

We just did it. We just did it. You wasn't going for that. I just was recording us doing it. We found out what Teddy Riley Studios was at, nigga, and we just posted up outside smoking weed and shit like that. We ain't know. We ain't know.

We ain't know no better. This is free internet. You got to do whatever the fuck you got to do. We in the world, man. I ain't know we don't even connect to get the damn record with Queenpin like that. You know what I mean? Because we was just one of the, that's where Teddy Riley's studio at, nigga. We used to go out there and just park up and smoke weed and shit.

Shouts to Rolla Doe and everybody, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Like you said, Biggie used to come down there doing them shows. Late on, yeah. Like you said, Biggie used to come down there doing them shows. Later on, yeah. All that shit. Man, man, Virginia was popping. But we was through all those little errors that Virginia was popping. I'll say it like this.

We got big brothers that was making Virginia pop. Oh, hell yeah. You know what I'm saying? Right, right, right, exactly. Them people. Right. Right, I see what you're saying. Big Meeches and all that.

Yeah, those are our big brothers. Right. And shout out to J-Mose. Yeah. Shout out to motherfucking J.B. And all the boys out there. B.M.P. B.M.P.

Cee Lo Mob. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But how does it all Translate now into Getting eventually a deal Like through this

Virginia Connect Fast forward Bing You going I'm just Really Cheeks was about to Battle somebody down there

Hitman Oh yeah yeah One thing led to another Tim Patterson Tim Dolph Tim Dolph Butt naked Tim Dolph Butt naked

Butt naked Tim Dolph Booty ain't a booty Dogg, butt naked Tim Dogg. Butt naked. Butt naked Tim Dogg. Booty ain't a booty. Unless it's butt naked. Oh, my God. He said, instead of them battling each other, because him and Hitman were battling each other, they was going outside. It was the Bronx against Queens.

We was all down there getting money, throwing motherfucking bus trips and all of that, boxing and all that. Come on, tell them. That's how we met. One thing that Tim... Tim, you know, he was working up there. What is he, an arsonist?

But we don't know that. No, he was uptown. Uptown? All right. He was with fucking... Andre and everybody else. Andre and... Puff and all that stuff.

I think he's the one that taught Puff. Yeah, yeah. Heavy D, the nigga that gave us... Who you talking about? Tim Dogg? Tim Dogg. Tim Patterson. Heavy D, the nigga that gave us the- Who you talking about? Tim Dogg? Tim Dogg. Okay. Tim Fantasy.

Tim Dogg basically got us the deal because he was already working up there. Fat. So he heard him rapping in the second and third, so he was like, all right, I'm going to put y'all together. So without a demo, y'all got- Without a demo.

That's when they get- No, we came down to Virginia to get the business to be- Money in the Murder, Twisted Cap, and all that shit. That's when they did that. Money in the Murder. Oh, that was hard. Shout out to Van Damme. Hard body, no doubt Cap, and all that shit. That's when they did that. Money in the Murder, Twisted Cap, and all that shit. That was hard. Shout out to Van Damme. Hard body, no doubt.

We went to New York. He introduced us. And he was like, yo, Monday, me and him went to the Ruckus game. That's when the new Ultimers came out. This is the Ultimer that first came out. The old Nissan Ultimer. Yeah. The Nissan.

So he was like, yo. Me and him went up there. And he was like, yo, I fuck with y'all. I want to put y'all really on. I'm going to try to introduce y'all to Andre and this is Uptown. That's me and him having this conversation. I was like, all right, whatever. He was like, yo, Spig, I'm telling you, I can do something.

I was like, all right. This is Tim Dogg telling you this. Tim Dogg. That's crazy. This is at a record game, you know what I'm saying, all right. This is Tim Dogg telling you this. Tim Dogg. That's crazy. This is at a record game. You know what I'm saying? So, boom. One thing led to another.

He did what he said he was going to do. He introduced us to Andre and told him what it was. That's how we got introduced to Uptown Records. But Andre, rest in peace. When we signed with him, he didn't understand us. Yeah, that's my next question. Did he know what to do with y'all? He had mostly R&B art on us and stuff.

The only rapper was Father MC. What we wanted to do was get that Uptown video. Coming to the door damn. They was labeling Heavy D as R&B on that label. So we was like really the first rap group or something like, you know what I'm saying? Right, right. You had Jodez, you had Mary J. You know what I'm saying?

Christopher Williams. Christopher Williams, all that. All of them up there. We was all. So when we was actually, yeah, all that, man. All that, we was all up there. Anthony Hamilton, all that. Y'all don't even know.

We got stories like, we go back. You know what I'm saying? Before you heard Anthony Hamilton, like now, there was another Anthony Hamilton. Yeah. We need to hear about this other Anthony Hamilton. I mean, he gets, no, I'm just saying, he gets in and he can sing and stuff like that. But he had different, his vibe was different. There wasn't no slow down version. You know what I'm just saying He gets in He can sing And stuff like that But he had different His vibe was different There wasn't no

Slow down version You know what I'm saying Like the ballads And stuff like that Nah That was my man Ant Ant could go in He could go in

Just like he's singing He's nice like that But We was with everybody That was uptown Shinehead Yeah Everybody that was uptown Shinehead is. Yeah, everybody that was up there.

Shinehead is one of those dudes we have a... Yeah, Shinehead was... He's really like the nigga that really... You know what I'm saying? He's nice. He was like... He's like, who the... Orange Brown.

Everybody. He's one of them niggas like... You see my vision. You know what I mean? He helped me really go. Before, like, he was over there in Queens doing what he was doing. I had to go out to VA, you know what I'm saying? Take care of some things.

But I'm just talking about as far as, like, while we was out there in VA. Yeah, we was going all that. What was the VA nigga rapping? You know what I mean? Like, ATL and all that. We was out there before we even, you know, made music. It's like, nigga, we the black flags first. Everywhere.

Before it got populated. Before it got populated, the black flags. Before New York came down there. We was down there. DJ Envy was down there as well at one point. In the 90s? Yeah. Like 90, 91?

I guess. I guess. Earlier, I guess I guess Earlier we spoke about cannabis and you said you was one of the first people to put cannabis on I want to do it. Can you elaborate on that story a little bit you guys? Yeah I mean, yeah, that was the nigga. He was easy cannabis easy. He's the only nigga With a license In Atlanta Now he was like Listen man We was out in Atlanta Trying to make a record And get a record deal

You know what I mean See what I'm saying We was in Virginia We went to Atlanta Cause we got the steaks Over there It's crazy right You heard about the steaks

You know the truck With the steaks Come out there Let's go Anyway We're talking about Air mattresses We were rug

And couch niggas, you know. Helping for life, you know. But now I'm just saying, man, there's so much shit that we went through to get where we at, to be talking on you. So Cannabis was the driver? Nah, he was... Cannabis was basically...

Run it down, man. Cannabis was our... Our guy. He took us around. Wait, Cannabis was our... Took us around. Wait, cannabis was our took us around. Like our manager's secretary.

Nah, why you say that, man? He wasn't our manager's secretary, man. Oh my God. I wasn't ready. You can use that. I wasn't ready.

I didn't want to be on that. That nigga was the man. That nigga was the secretary. Holy shit. Okay. Big as an illest. Nah, that was our man. Yeah, yeah the secretary. Holy shit. Okay. That nigga's an illest. Nah, I'm not. That was out there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. For real. For real. For real. He was the assistant. Assistant? Secretary of defense? Yeah, I was the defense.

Okay, okay. I was the defense. Holy shit. Holy shit. I did not know y'all was going there. Okay. Nah, nah, nah. He worked with our manager

in this side of the third. So I remember I heard him talking about he was a manager that he co-managing I guess that's another thing I heard it I seen it so I'm just shutting this setting this shit down because that is not true. So you've seen cannabis online saying that he co-managed the law school. Nigga. Nigga. Nigga, I seen him on TV.

Nigga. Nigga. Oh my God. Nah, I wasn't ready. You understand, T-Dog? I'll be over here too. I'll be over here chilling. I'm just going to tell it like this.

Some niggas will be crazy shit out of his mouth. He be saying some crazy shit out of his mouth. He be saying some crazy shit out of his mouth. I already told them niggas from malls. Nigga in Cane Dam. I'm telling you on your car. Anyway, anyway, anyway. We're gonna run it down. It's all good.

Yeah, now, Cannabis is a dope dude. What I'm saying is this. He used to take us everywhere. I'm gonna take a shot anyway. I'm just saying. It's just a shot. I'm going to take a shot anyway. I'm going to take a shot. This is just a shot. This is just a shot. This is just a shot. I'm going to stay in the air. I'll join you.

Yeah, I believe. Yeah, yeah. I'll just take a shot. That nigga was the only one that don't drink and don't smoke. Oh, no. He turned up. He turned up. He turned up.

He turned up. He turned up. Like, real quick. Real quick. Real quick. He was like, yeah. I'm going to say, I'm going to keep it all the way through. The nigga don't drink, don't smoke.

Right. You know what I mean? He got the license. We drinking, smoking. Mm-hmm. No lie. He older now. We all older now.

Right. This is all new. This is old stories. What I'm saying is, yeah. He used to smoke his mom's car out. He used to take us to the studio. Bum, bum, bum. That's it.

That man ain't right. Shout out to Mr. Sex. R.I.P. And that's what it was. You know what I mean? Yeah. He used to be a dude like that. You got to take a shot, though, sir. Then he got it together, and he wanted to I mean? You got to take a shot though, sir.

Then he got it together and he wanted to start it. Yeah, yeah. Those are drink champs. We watching. They're watching. The lights are on, chicks. Okay. Now, but he a dope artist, you know what I mean?

He good. He good. Hey, you really having a guest on? Okay. He good. Nah, I just didn't like that part that... That bothered you that you heard that? Nah, that right there, but...

What, what? He said he was your man? I don't fuck with that. Was your man? Nah, never that. Nah, it had some deepness before that and all types of shit and shit like that. Right.

He is what he is. He is what he is. All right, so we're going to move on. He's on, he's on. See that EF? Something that I always wanted to ask you. He have like this. I know.

Get it, come on out of there. Something I always wanted to ask you. Music made me high, right? You said my boy Charles Suki high. Was Charles Suki high? Charles Suki out here flipping pops with Paglia Bell. Let's throw him out there.

Was he getting high back then? Charles Suki was getting high off the music. Okay, okay, okay. I'm talking about that. My nigga Spittas got high. He was getting high. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We was getting high.

Oh my God. Oh my God. I love it when you do this. I don't know what you're talking about. I mean, yeah. Spittas was going high. Spitt when you do that. I don't give a fuck. I mean, I don't, yeah. Speak up. Speak up.

Maybe not. Speak up. It's for like, speak ready to talk, man. He like, man, fuck this shit.

I ain't been saying this shit. I ain't been saying this shit for a long time. You know what I said to him? You know what I said to him? Nope. Speak, take the stage.

It's time to speak to the stage. I mean, a lot of shit that we went through is because a lot of these motherfuckers that didn't know shit, like Charles Suit, he'll admit. When we put him in the game, he ain't know nothing. That's right. But he learned some stuff from Puff and stuff like that.

I can tell you a lot of shit. Puff is like our brother because his big brother is our big brother. Our big brothers, that's his big brother. So a lot of shit that... You know him, Kapoli. Suit grew up to know. He got it from Puff, but Tim got it.

There's a circle. We all... I mean, when I say we all around him, we got a big family. You know, I mean, when I say we all a family, we got a big family. You know what I'm saying? A lot of shit that I've been hearing throughout my incarceration and shit like that.

And researching and stuff like that. I heard a lot of bullshit. And I was like, you know, I'm somebody in jail, you know what I'm saying? When niggas tell me this, this, that, and the third shit, now I got extra people saying, yo, this, that, this happened, that happened.

What's up with y'all? All this shit. So now I got to be like, damn, how do you clean that shit up? Right. So basically when you get an opportunity, trying to clean some of that shit up. Right. Because there was a lot of bullshit rumors and bullshit this and that. You know how now the internet, shit like that.

So I watched it. Remember, I was, telephones was in the room like that. You know what I'm saying? Right. So now all this shit coming into play and you got other people talking and internets and stuff like that coming in. So now a lot of shit is like blown out of proportion.

You get to speak the truth. You get to talk the real narrative. I can tell you. You like on your platform. That's right. We appreciate it. Shut that up. Boris, I need another blunt immediately, Boris. Another blunt immediately. My niggas speak nice. Listen, I ain't going to lie. I got another blunt immediately, Boris. Please, another blunt immediately. My niggas speak nicer. Listen, I ain't going to lie.

I got another shot here, so I'm taking another shot for no reason. I'm going to take a shot. No, no, no. Excuse me. I said for no reason. It's a big reason. It's to celebrate motherfucking Lost Boys. Yo, what's up?

That's the Marijuana Judge. You be- Yo! Let me see what's up with the Marijuana Judge. You know they make that in the tub. I'm telling you. They make that in the tub with chickens. He's been paying attention.

That was solid. Let me see you in the tub. We go ahead. Yo, to my man. Yo, I'm going to take this with you. This is legal. I don't even know what the hell y'all drinking. I'm a fan, so I appreciate you, bro.

I appreciate you. Wasn't you living out here in Miami for some time? You guys are both Kendall residents. Oh! Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Both of y'all live in my house. Southwest, I say. Yeah.

Nah, nah, nah, nigga. I've been out here for a minute, but I'm a Globetrotter. Right. Right. Yeah, yeah. Bang, bang, bing, bing, ba-da-bang. Now, I be over there, and I see Queen. I hear Queen.

Queen Josephine is here Mm-hmm Chanel is here The princess of the LV band Mm-hmm Cousin Princess over there In the cut You already know the family

Dingo is here My main man That brought me to here Is the black Cuban Over there Okay Shout out to Zo Pounder

Okay Zo Over there And don't forget DJ 47 Now that looks like Willie Liv Kicking ass Willie Liv Shout out to my cousin

Willie Liv right there Willie Busting ass in the wrestling world WWF Cha-cha You ain't got nah-nah On my top DJ Sha

DJ Sha in the building Now it's when the party's Stomping That motherfucker I am in But I've been out here For a minute man You know what I'm saying

I've been down here since You know what I'm saying? I've been down here since, you know what I'm saying? How long you been out here? Like, oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was coming by the warehouse when we was doing Militant and Crazy Raw Radio.

Wow. He played some freestyle over there. I've been down here since three. What's my man? What's that studio right there on the corner

on Collins, man? Damn, you all know. You all know. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Marlins. The Marlins. Yeah. Yeah, the Marlins. corner on Collins man. Damn you know, you know, yeah, the Marlin the Yeah I mean, I'm making them all I'm a guy With a frill in there. Yeah. Yeah, I made a record with for all the

Yeah Well How can I be down days we've been coming down here and living like we've been here. That's funny. You know what I mean? We've been here since... How can I be down days? We've been coming down here. We've been living here for 10 years. We got here in 2001. You know what I mean? That's when we first moved here.

That's how it passed, RIP. And we've been... Came down here and chilled. You know what I'm saying? Before that, we got here. Like I said, we got big brothers. Look, we got big brothers. We came and talked about nothing. We got big brothers. The big homies.

How long did you do? Me, I did 19 and a half. 19 and a half. Look at that nigga. 19 and a half years. My nigga, man. Shout out to all of them. Still got homies, still there.

I got Cody, he Cody still locked up. One came home free and just came home like the other day. And if you don't mind, you want to say what your charges was? Mine was bank robbery. Attempted bank robbery. You little bandit.

So we... Don't want to act. I mean... But you acted like you do. I can say like this. It happens. It didn't happen. A lot of shit.

I got to understand the government. They vicious. Yeah. If they just like, I believe you. I believe you did something. They're going to stick it to you. You know that. And if you fight them, they're going to say, here you You know that And if you fight them They're going to say Here's the next one

Throw the book at you Right Throw that on top of you Just because You being smart Just because And yours is federal? Oh, it's a bank robbery

Yeah, mine was federal My bad, my bad So a lot, you know I learned a lot I mean, it's an experience You see me do my shades? You know what I'm saying? It's an experience, you know

That you don't really want to be in You know what I'm saying? Right You going experience, you know, that you don't really want to be on. You know what I'm saying? You're going to write a book? Yeah, I got a book. I got a book. I got a lot of shit going on. You know what I'm saying? And also, like he said, I got the tour, like, on my grind tour.

It's artists, different independent artists. I'm hoping that the homies come home and certain, you know what I'm saying? Because there's a lot of talent in jail. You know what I'm saying? Rappers and stuff like that. I already speak to some of them on a kind of week-to-week basis and stuff like that. When they get home, try to get them on some shine, you know what I'm saying? Oh, you said shots?

Some shine. I think I heard shots Oh, you said shots? Some shots. I think I heard shots. I want shots. I want shots. Yeah, I think it's good. Give it up for the Raps. Yeah. You know, it's trying to give everybody an opportunity to get the shots.

Let's do it. They could be there, you know what I'm saying? Your story is so ill, you know what I'm saying? It's so many people that make it to rap, right? And then they think that rap is the end all, be all. And then for, like, you to have a story like that where, you know, you, you, you know, whatever, you know. It wasn't going right. Right.

She wasn't. Was that the story? She wasn't going right. It was up and down. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Right. Sometimes you got your highs, sometimes you got was up and down. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes you got your highs, sometimes you got your lows. You know what I'm saying?

Sometimes a lot of things happen. You know what I'm saying? But one thing for sure that, you know, God had me. I'm here. You're here. That's the whole thing. I made it back to this. You made it back.

Welcome back. Yeah, man. Welcome back home. I'm going to speak nice as home. You know what I'm saying? We're on James Jams and shit. Yeah. Motherfuckers be cheering on motherfuckers that ain't do one damn thing my man did. Right. In the industry.

If they cheer these niggas on that be coming home, I'll be like, what the fuck? My man is home. Niggas don't hear that and don't see that, but we still keeping that motherfucking, you know what I mean, that flame burning. So yeah, I'm glad we on Dream Champs to let them know. My boy is back. Hell yeah.

And yo, is this the first interview y'all did as Lost Boys so far? Because of the group. Since the group. Since Staked Home. I'm strong on those shit right now. That's the fact. This is the first interview.

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but it belonged to the world. It belonged to the world. And I stand by this. Renee. Give it this. Rene. Give it up. All day. When you listen. Give it up for Bashar.

I got another shot. Someone take it. I got another shot. You got a warm one. Okay. No, no. I had two extra. No, no.

It's okay. I don't have any more shots. Yeah. I'm going to have another drink. To you being home. To you another drink. To you being home. To Sting being home. To Sting being home. That's right.

AKA Precious. Ebony. So, I kept listening to this record, right? And I'm sitting back, right, when I listen to Rene, on one part part it makes me happy because it's a record that I grew up with it's nostalgic for you in that

sense and it's like alright cool and you're dancing but this when you listen to the story is crazy but you still connect people to... It was still a club record. Like, I have never... It's crazy. ...actually seen that in the history of neighborhood. That's a crazy concoction right there. Hey, hey. You didn't call me in the front door.

Look, look, look, look. Like, you could tell one of the saddest stories. Everyone identify with this story. Everyone dance and be a little sad at the same time. That shit's a motherfucker. Be human. Yo, I...

That's real shit. That's a great answer because that is how to tap into every human. Like, that is not a black record. It's a global... Anybody can listen to Rene and relate to that. What the fuck? What kind of weed was that?

What was you smoking? Or is this a real story? Because I never... I don't know that. I want to give my man... That's right, yeah. I mean, it's real life. Okay. She can do. I mean, it's real life. Okay, she can do it to me, too, y'all.

She's in the house. That looks like a nice... I don't know. That looks like a nice refrigerator. I hope you don't throw it away. Right out the freezer, I say. Yeah, leave it there. Okay, go ahead. Let's go, Spitz.

I mean, Renee is a story about, go ahead. I mean, Rene is a story about a shorty. That's right. You know what I'm saying? We all got shorties in our town. All across America. Everybody got a shorty they love. And there's always the hood chicks. Okay, before you finish,

I don't mean to cut you off because I got to get to this. But who made up shorty first? Was it Southside or Queensbridge? I don't know. Damn. We don't know. Y'all don't know? I know it's a Queens.

We definitely don't say yes. You know we're going to say yes. Okay, all right, all right. I know it's a Queens word. Hey, y'all, shorty. Yeah. Okay, okay, go ahead. Let's get to Rene.

Let's get Rene because the people won't kill me. I'll cut you off at this part. So, Rene, all right. So, like I said, everybody got it. Green Egg is small. Hold on. Green Egg is small. Green Egg is small. Green Egg is small.

Q Club. Ayo, Sade. I think we made it up. I think we made it up. I think we made it up. Hey, we made it up. We made it up. We made it up.

We made it up. I'm taking a shot. I'm taking a shot. I'm taking a shot. I'm taking a shot. I'm taking a shot. I'm taking a shot. I'll take a shot today. I'll take a shot today. I'll take a shot. I'll take a shot. I'll take a shot. Oh, fuck. I'll take a shot to that. I'll take a shot to that.

I'll take a shot. Drunk history. Yeah, but Rene is like, I mean. Ebony Williams. Ebony Williams. She got hit. Oh, wow. North side, south side, I'd be 40 projects and niggas over there on Q-tip and side, right?

They came over and bong, bong, bong. Shout out to Shorty. Basely Party. 40 projects and niggas over there on Q-tip and inside, right? Insane. They came over and bang, bang, bang. Shut up. Basely party. No, the park jam. So this is a real story. Park jam thing. It's a real story. Wow.

I mean, he would. He would get shot. I don't want to throw a name out so hard, but I just want to let them know that's why. Right, that was the inspiration. That's where it came from. You know what I'm saying? Okay. And basically, you know, everybody out at the party, a park jam.

You know, if y'all were in a park jam, it's park after dark. Yeah. And she happy. But rest in peace, but she took one. You know what I'm saying? She took one? The lady that got shot with the baby, remember? Yeah.

Just got married. The couple that got married in front of the building that got shot, nigga. It was a crazy story. It was a lot of things happening, you know what I'm saying? I mean, that same day. That whole shootout was, the nigga shot her while she was there on the phone booth, at the phone. And they were shooting up the niggas in the building right there,

standing in front, and they shot her. A lot of shit. Accidentally shot the lady and her husband getting married. You know, all that other shit. It's a whole deep dumb, though. It's crazy. But basically, as you can see, you take one story out of that. You don't need to have it on that?

Come on, man. You take one story out of that and basically explain. You know what I'm saying? Things happen like that. you don't ever hear about a female getting killed right shot or whatever the scatter third nowadays nowadays you know but back then that was like kind of rare right and nobody and then if it happened nobody really talked about it right so basically using that just giving another story of our lifestyle i mean what we go through and as youth back then you know what i'm saying yeah but what i'm saying is the energy is so vulnerable

because it's like it taps into everyone right like what i'm saying is like um it's supposed to yo it's supposed to you know you write it for everybody right no i'll be talking about you gonna do the same thing a nigga go through yeah you talk about like no but the way you break down the way the way it's broke down right now right it's like this is a real love story like you know what i mean? It's like, it felt, it felt. So when you said, I always thought it was like, if it was true, because sometimes, you know. It is, it is like what you said. Yeah. It's like what you said.

Blowing it down. Video, when you listen to it, have you ever listened to it in your car by yourself? Yes. Like, you can see it going down. You to it in your car by yourself I guess like you can see you can see it going down you don't see you right yeah definitely

I see it it's a vivid it's a vivid story you know when you lose somebody you feel like damn I just lost somebody for that small moment I also realized too

I was like damn Cheek was Cheek was the first nigga talking about glizzies and then he brought two glizzies he brought two glizzies I was like come on

come on Cheek he brought two he said I brought two glizzies. He brought two glizzies. I said, come on. Come on, G. He said, I brought two breaks. I said, hold on. She wanted to do this. She's got a... She's got a... I don't know. This nigga is sick.

I ain't gonna get away with that today. I'm gonna come to Lingo. Damn, let him know. When it comes to me, I'm gonna bring two breaks. Hey, we were... We were... Make some know. Hey, we were in the league. Make some noise.

Hey, yo. Hey, yo. That's before our time. You see? She's got a lot of lingo that you could say that you stem, like, you feel me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, no, he's the illiterate.

He was one of the first rappers I heard say trap in a rap. Right. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Did you say he was the first rapper that heard you say trap? I heard her say trap. Wow.

You feel me? Wow. We making out of stage traps. You feel me? Hey, man, we just had our time. Yes, y'all was. Smoking trees. Listen, I got another shot right here.

I'm taking another shot to the Lost Boys. I'm taking another shot with you. I'm taking another shot to the Lost Boys. We're all the Lost Boys across America. They know for sipping Hennessy and twisting trees backstage. Across America. Across America.

East coast. West coast and worldwide. There's nothing wrong with you puffing on love. And if you with me, let me hear you say hi. Woo! It's Lala. It's Lala. It's Lala.

Y'all taking two? Lala! Yeah! Let's go! Yeah! Was that way? Hold up, hold up. Y'all taking two? Let's go! Hold up, hold up. Was that track meant specifically for the soundtrack for Don't Be A Menace? No. What's it on? It's the Rene remixes on Don't Be A Menace.

That's the remix. That's the remix. No, Rene. Rene, what's up? That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix.

That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the remix.

That's the remix. That's the remix. That's the story. That's it. Mary J., Mona Lisa, The Lox, J.J., all our family. Crazy. Crazy. We was out there in the first Lox video in Harlem, nigga.

It's our plan. Come around that corner and make that bed. The building. The corner store right there. I remember that. Hell yeah. Yeah, dope.

Dope days. Yo, Christ. It's the most dope. Yo, I got something. I got something. By the way, I can see some of the style people around. They have no idea. J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- J- Question though, just to piggyback off what you were saying about the Rene situation. Would you put that in hip-hop's top storytelling? Yeah, I would. Records?

Yeah, I would. Because you know when you like, like when, this is one thing. For me being like, you feel me? I'm the next generation, you feel me? So I grew up, I was raised in the 90s, you feel me? I was born in the 90s, so I grew up in the 90s, you feel me? So, but as we get, as I'm, you know, in my present days, it's like, there's a lot of lost boy shit that don't be talked about in hip-hop, you feel me So But as we get As I'm You know In my present days It's like There's a lot of Lost boy shit

That don't be talked about In hip hop You feel me So this is an honor Like I said We all appreciate it It's an honor for us But there's a lot of

Lost boy shit Yes That don't get talked about In hip hop Or get the same You feel me Praise that they give Other shit in hip hop

But to answer your question What I think you're trying to say is, does Rene not get? It's just do. I believe it does. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not saying. I'm saying. How the fuck we wasn't on Rock the Bell?

You know when we'd be like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. That's all I'm saying. That's what he's talking about. You know how they be like. Wait, wait, wait. Y'all wasn't on Rock the Bell? He trying to start some shit. I seen you.

I caught that. I caught that, G. You know how they be like, who's the best storytellers in hip-hop? Oh, yes, yes. Don't be mentioned in those conversations. That's real. As far as, but like you said, that's one of the most, that's not, in a hip-hop culture, that's a timeless record. That is a timeless record.

Let me just say something. One more time, one more time. No problem. Irv, what the hell was you doing with that motherfucking tail shit? I got to talk to him. Who? One more time, one more time. No problem. Irv, what the hell was you doing with that motherfucking tail shit? What that motherfucking... I got to talk to him. Who? Who talked to Tails?

Oh, I heard him when he pulled up. I'm like... What did you just say, sir? Because... All right. So he did Renee on Tails? Yeah. If you want to tell a story, you hear the story.

The world knows the story. What the fuck was you doing? Where the camera at? Right story. What the fuck was you doing? Where the camera at? What the fuck was you doing? You struck out on that one. People stopped watching the show because of that shit. And that's what I heard. That's what people were telling me.

I ain't watching that shit. They ain't do y'all story. Nothing, no justice. Okay, because I didn't see this. I don't know about that. So can you tell me, can you describe to me what happened? They didn't follow the story, guys. They didn't follow the story.

Talk to him. All right, I'm here. I'm here for this shit. You watch Dream Champs? Yes. Or you watch, what's the name of that? Tales? Tales. I watch Tales, too. No, no, what you watch the most? Okay, I watch Dream Champs. Yes. Or you watch... What's her name? Tales? Tales.

I watch Tales, too. No, no. What you watch the most? Okay, I watch Dream Champs. Let's go. Take a shot with me now. Okay, God damn it. All right, you set me up.

You get one, too, there, buddy. Nah, but a lot of shit... Like I say, the story don't get told right. She fucked you up. You got me. The stories don't get told right. I had to get him. I had to get him.

Niggas got to tell the story right. Please, cut. So tell us. So tell us. So you saying that, oh, thank God. So you telling me. That's cheating. Herb, no, that was tequila.

I don't drink tequila. All right. I got to drink whiskey to wash it down. Do your thing. Do your thing. I mean, Japanese Deleon. I mean, I got to be, I'm drinking Deleon. I'm drinking, we drink, come on. I got to drink whiskey to wash it down. Do your thing. Do your thing. I mean, Japanese Deleon. I mean, I got to drink Deleon. Thank you.

So you were telling me that Irv, because for people that know, Tales is a story that they're telling, and then they make a whole movie based on that. So you're saying that, huh? Yeah, based off a hit by a record. So you're saying that he did Rene. Yeah, I don't know where he got that storyline from.

Right. If you listen to the story on the record, on the radio, on wherever, CD, tape, whatever. What did he do, Svigg? He said something else, some other story. And that was like... It just didn't correlate with the song. Now, Ed, I get what you're saying. You feel me? Just like how I...

That was not the story. You see it a certain type of way? I don't know who he reached out to. If he did it, if he heard the story, he would have known better than to put that. I don't know what the hell he was thinking, even allowing that. Who allowed that? That was nothing like what the story said. You trying to mess up our storyline.

Damn. That's how I took it. Like, yo, wait a minute. That ain't how the story goes. If you listen to the story on the record, you know that two don't correlate at all. What did the story do? I don't know. What the fuck he was doing?

Excuse me? But it was just what it is. And it's like, nah, dog, that shouldn't even have been allowed to be on TV because everybody in the... Yo, my phone don't even ring like that. Right. My IG, everything was going crazy. Like, yo, what they was doing? What was their...

Oh, you're saying your IG was going crazy because people... Like, what the hell is this? You know, comment. And it was like, yo, what's the fuck going on? That ain't the story. That's crazy. Straight like that.

But is that something, because, you know, just asking, is that something that he had to get permission from y'all, or he went through the record label or something? I don't know. We don't know what the fuck he did. I don't know. They ain't called me. I mean, we don't know nothing about that shit.

They ain't called me, nigga. Shit. Shit. Who he called? He didn't called me. I mean, we don't know nothing about that shit. They ain't called me, nigga. Shit. Shit. Who he called? Who he called? He got somebody at the record label like... Listen, man. We passed that down anyway, so...

Man. I already know. You already know what I'm talking about. All I'm saying is don't fuck up our shit. Don't fuck up our story. You know what I'm saying? The world won't... I didn't even know this shit was going down.

That's crazy, because I'd be in the house. Yeah, but just being devil's advocate, if he would have called you guys and said, yo, look guys, I'm doing Rene.

Would you guys have wanted input? Of course. That was unanimous. That's not it. No. I mean, I didn't even see this. I respect that.

My dad talking to me. You can't put that out. You can't tell that nigga like that? That's not it? No. I mean, I didn't even see this. I respect that. That's what I respect. You can't put that out. You can't put that out. Because of the few episodes I believe I saw of Tales, it was rappers that wasn't around. You understand what I said? Do that shit handshake. I like that. Go ahead.

Go ahead. Like, for the episodes that I did see of Tales, I think I seen the biggie episode at Tales. We all did. We all did. So these are episodes that rappers wasn't around. You said this problem would have never happened had it just been one phone call to either of y'all. Exactly.

Okay. And I don't, I mean, I've seen some of this shit, and they are all right. Because they kind of correlate with the music. You feel me? You say the titles, they kind of correlate with the music. You see the title? I didn't see this one. This has nothing to do with the story at all. Do you remember the story?

Yes. Rene? Yes. You heard anybody in the barbershop? Yes. He said yo. My nigga said yo. You heard the story Rene?

Where was anybody in a barbershop? Where did this take place in a barbershop? All right, then. Take this. Let's drink. That is not going to work. That is not going to work. He's doing quick time assignment.

Get your shit together. My nigga say, yo. And John's my brother. John's my man. What? But he could have even told this nigga, Irv, you from Queens, nigga. Nigga, say yo. And Ja's my brother. Ja's my man. What? But he could have even told this nigga, Irv, you from Queens, nigga. Queens, man.

That's the answer. How you going to get that wrong? I don't know. I ain't never. I don't even know. Man, I don't know where it took place. It had to take place, like, down south. There was no city, nothing.

You brought the stays of Queens? He brought that Joint to ACL Where's Poppin To ACL Tyler Jerry Oh my god Tyler Jerry

Tyler Jerry Both of them Yeah Oh that's crazy man But I respect What he do though I respect What he do

You know what I'm saying But he just dropped The ball on that. You know what I'm saying? But he just dropped the ball on that one. Yeah, yeah. That's all I'm saying. I like the niggas, man. Yeah. Because we going to put our movie out. Now, niggas forgot because we left the industry a long time ago.

Get the producers. Come see us. Yeah, niggas know what it is. We got a Wu-Tang story. We got an epic series and all that stuff. We got that shit popping. When is the Lost Boys series coming to Hulu? Oh, yeah.

Got to get the publicity. Shout out to Danny Dang. Danny Dang. Yeah, get everybody together. I mean, whoever. Come holler at us. Nah, Danny Dang, we're working on that thing right now. You know what I mean?

From Lost Boys to Men. Send a fella down there. That's for sure. I'm just saying. I'm telling them the story. You say Lost Boys to Men'm saying Lost Boys the Men From Lost Boys the Men The new TV show we're working on

Right now Yeah His son is a boxer I came My son is a rap dude Right You see Freaky Todd son You already know

He got the whole team Ralu son Ralu son Lost Boys the Men You know what I mean You're trying to get that She keep giving out these shots Shout out to my man Danny Day

Is that all we have to do Just refuse Y'all sponsored by these cups Yes This is sponsored by Deleon sir Yes we are Shout out to Monster too Y'all was chatting up

Off earlier Whiskey I never taste this And Monster too And we get energy drinks afterwards. The monster. The monster. Yeah.

Say that again. I need to get some coconut water. So I'm going to get serious for just one second. Why? I'm going to just ask this question.

We were chilling. We were chilling. We had fun. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Let's go. Because I believe I've seen this on Vlad TV,

but they say that Freaky Todd actually died in the hands of ODB. That's false. What? That's false. Cousin. That did not happen. We don't know. We don't know.

We're not even going to entertain that. You know, niggas just be blabbing, you feel me? Oh, my God. How the fuck could they say something? Tony Ayo said it on Vlad, you feel me? Yeah, yo. Yeah, yo. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, the fuck could they say that? Tony Ayo said it on Vlad. Yeah, yo. Yeah, yo. Wait, wait, wait.

Wait, wait, wait. What'd you say? Tony Ayo said what on Vlad? He thought he said something. Hold on, nigga. I don't live in Queens no more. I just want to know what you're talking about. Oh, nah, nah.

That was the interview you were talking about, right? Yeah. Yeah, he said that my pops died at ODB Arms. And I'm glad you brought that up, because I wanted to be the first one to clear that up. That is absolutely false to the fans because there's a lot of people that take these interviews. I don't even understand that shit. You feel me?

Like Spake said earlier, until we get the narrative and start talking about the facts and you start speaking on the facts because nobody knows. Everybody's been going, doing whatever they're going through in life. You feel me? Okay. But when you start putting out narratives and people take it from these platforms, they think these platforms is fully 100% credible because it's coming out from a person that's from a popular standpoint. You feel me? That's the homie.

You feel me? I ain't saying that. I'm not shutting what he said down. That's LB Fest. I'm not because I love Tony Ayo. He's from 134. That's the homie. I don't know what the motherfucker

talking about. I don't know what he's talking about right now. That statement is totally false and it's all I'm saying. I'm stamping it all out of love because I don't want people to take that and run with that. I don't run with that.

You can't run with that. Ever. That is not true because that's two different parties, number one. And then now, not only are you saying that about our story, you feel me, you put in the Wu-Tang story and crossing it, and it's not true facts, you feel me? No.

It's not true facts. It's not no hate, no, it's all out of love, and it's just all out of speaking facts on the legacy, you feel me? Because we have a strong legacy that's embedded in this hip-hop shit, and it's, like I said, hasn't been highlighted how it's supposed to, you feel me? And this is our time to put it out there to the world. Like, these are facts, this is what's going on, and this is what's about to happen, you feel me?

Shout out Nori, shout out DJ FN for the, you know, to do it. And we know what we're doing. We on G-Chain. We on G-Chain. Talk that talk, you. That's the youngin'. Yo, I don't even know what the fuck is going on. I was like, yo, what the fuck?

It's all love. It's no doubt. I know it's all love. It's all love. It's just clear in the air. It's just clear in the air.'s all love. It's all love. It's just clearing the air. It's just clearing the air. Like I said, shout out Ayo. Shout out Bink.

Shout out Phish. Shout out the whole team. You feel me? South side, we outside. Far Rock, we in the building. All these stacked bundles. You feel me? I'm a Far Rock nigga.

You feel me, too? Love. Love you. So how was it being in the can all that long and watching the rap game change? How did you feel? Oh, man. Basically, it was, I seen the time's turn. When I was, I'd say about 03.

I'm going to just say Nelly. It's hot in here. It's hot in here. She's on Soul Train. Soul Train wasn't even Nelly It's hot in here Right It's hot in here That shit on Soul Train Soul Train wasn't even playing It's crazy I was in Jersey

But He had a run And I was in In that part They beginning to jail And that long That nigga was still going on I was like

What the fuck going on Where the New York at right now But no I feel like You're trying to say Nelly was still on y'all shit a little bit I don't know I got no time. I got story. Can I tell him something talk to them people? I'ma tell him something Nobody know about LB fan man, we don them niggas out in St. Louis, aight? Mm-hmm. I'm talking about one of them. Shout out to them.

I'm not throwing you in the mix. I'm just saying. We was all making records. Mm-hmm. Okay. You know, we seen Nelly as a what? 15, 16 year old? I don't know.

Bang bang. I don't know. I'm talking about. I don't know where that nigga was. Yeah, nigga. We all the niggas that influence that nigga to get going, going, going, going, going. You know what I'm saying? Okay.

Remember the St. Lunar Six came first. Well, let me run my finish off. Talk to them niggas. Let me finish off. We're going to change it. Now, so now, for real, I'm the first nigga that went to mother, we the Lost Boys, nigga.

He don't want to know because he act like, ah. We was popping. We was going hard. Right. Hard niggas, we the niggas in St. Louis. Get big, big, make a long story short, cousin. We the niggas that snuck Nelly and his crew in the club with us that night

because them niggas outside told us what's up. I love y'all. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Fast forward, right? Fast forward. You heard what I said. He said we snuck Nelly in the club. We snuck them niggas in the club with us.

Crazy. Because we lost your father. What are you saying? Little niggas, let's go. Whatever y'all do, let's go. We just got them in the club, you know what I mean? So what I'm saying is after all of that, they became go You know what I mean We just got them in the club You know what I mean So what I'm saying is After all of that

They became You know what I mean You see what they are And you know the funny story is We signed on the Universal Hello Bing And who's the nigga

Doing their commercial For the Nelly and the boys And the St. Louis chicks And all that It was me 50 commercials for the God Nelly on his way I'm talking about back in the same Louisville chicks and all that. It was me. 50 commercials for the God. Nelly on his way.

I'm talking about back in the days when you had to do promotions for your own radio. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shit like that. I'm just saying, man. I've been around the world and now, yeah, yeah, yeah. And to top it off for him, what he's saying,

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American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. If you really could tell, we had it all. We had the group, the DJ, the dancer, and all that. We had the combination of it. We grew up in the hip hop. Tell them, kid.

Remember it was the St. Lunatics first. They didn't like that. Nelly broke off, basically, not broke off, but he became that solo artist. They still had the group. Then they had their dancer, the one with the mask and all that shit like that. I would be, be wild. That was our dancer. Fuck that nigga.

Before y'all would see all that shit. Exactly. Fuck that nigga. Who on G-Chance? My bad. But listen. Exactly. Fuck that nigga. Who on G-Chance? My bad. But listen, we had that. That whole combination,

that whole style. They just wanted a southern version. Okay, they got that. That was... The next one was we the Lost Boys. What's the next group

after the Lost Boys? Hot Boys? No. Yeah, Hot Boys, Cass Wonder. You're ready. Remember that? Yeah. See, I can take it back.

White beaters and all that. I've got memory of all that. The white beaters and the Jets. They wanted everything the Lost Boys wanted. That's why they started. You're saying it's all universal. This is universal. Man, I'm living this.

I'm seeing the correlation. I watch. I watch what was going on. This is universal. Man, I'm living this. I'm seeing the correlation. I watch. I watch what was going on. What the fuck? After, they still wanted a better Southern group than the St. Lunatics. So basically, how many people in the Hot Boys? About four of them. Hello.

How many in the Lost Boys? About four of them. Hello. How many in the Lost Boys? All right. Hello. Four of them. They wanted a southern Lost Boy group. Mm-hmm. Southern.

Like, we the northern, they the southern. You ain't got nothing better than us. You ain't got nothing better than us. Listen, I'm going to tell you, when you talk about history

and shit like that, at that time, out of one album, we got seven songs and videos. When you only could get two at that time. If you was lucky, three.

If you got lucky, and we got seven out of one album, who could fuck with niggas like that? Who could fuck with niggas like that? I mean, we did our thing, but you

to top us, you have to look for, and those are individuals. Those wasn't a group. Those were individuals. Now, now. That they had to put together for basically two rappers. A rapper and a hype man and a DJ. You know what I'm saying?

That combination. Tax man. You know what I'm saying? You had to put a whole four-man crew together to fuck with that. But, and give them a bunch of money. When we started out, we didn't have no money. You know how that...

They give us a 300... Let me own money. You know what I'm saying 300,000 dollar budget like I said Andre didn't know exactly what to do with us

300,000 dollar we had gold and our first was that that pre-tour whatever that shit was you know what I'm saying

Lollapalooza Lollapalooza before the Lollapalooza damn oh Jack the Rapper our regular tour hold on you remember Oh, Jack the Rapper. Our regular tour. Remember that cousin?

Jack the Rapper? Yeah. We was fucking... We had gold back then. What's that other... Jack the Rapper. Jack the Rapper. But there was another one in New Orleans. Gavin.

The Gavin? The Gavin. The Gavin and shit like that. Oh, man. He was all around them motherfuckers. Man, listen. We was already gold before we even came back home. Shit like that. Oh, man. He was all around them. Man, listen. We was already gold before we even came back home. How could I be down?

So we was like, you know what I'm saying? Early. We was there. That's why I said we traveled. We traveled like a motherfucker. Like I said, the airplane was our taxi cat. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Or your mom's car. Ball Molly. But we was out there like forever. When we come to the airport, they got two cars ready for us. Like, where y'all going? Which way y'all going?

That's how bad we was working. You know what I'm saying? That's what I said when Biggie used to say, y'all never had my shows and shit. We was working for, since we started, the times we got in that game.

That's one thing about Andre Andre and us And what we was doing Tell them With Super Mario When we named Super Mario Mario

D-Block Biggie was the nigga that taught us We did so much My man talking In a matter of time You know what I'm saying That it was like Mind blowing to them

They didn't know Like I said We already came with We wore Shirt and finder clothes and this and that, you know what I'm saying? Hats, we wore the cigars, blunts and all that shit. We came in with a game plan

and it was mean. Some of that motherfuckers ain't know. But they couldn't fathom what the hell, would we lose money or this and that and the third. And we had this, like I said, like when you say And we had this, like I said, like when you say

a thousand, a thousand ghetto deep, when I say America, we traveled America. Man, we could see every fucking state, 52,

whatever. We was there. You know what I'm saying? And then if we wasn't there, they came to see us. Then when we go across the pond, Japan and Australia and all that shit,

we seen places grow up. You know what I'm saying? We seen it. So it was like, what we know and what we did and what they don't know, you know what I'm saying, the universal or uptowners,

both of them basically, when we came up they don't even understand what the fuck we was doing because it was too big for them so our status I'll say right now that affected us now when I was locked up

I would listen to music and I was like yo they be putting this old school stuff they be doing this why the hell we ain't getting it we might get it from certain DJs that might, live DJs or something like that.

But on the radio, why the fuck we ain't getting it? If we was the biggest thing in rap. But people don't really notice that. Some people, the old school niggas, they notice that. They hear it.

They recognize it. They realize, yo, you got me out of jam, jail, and this, that, and third. Right. But now, I don't hear our music on the radio like you would hear Biggie or anybody else. Nah, it's just, I don't hear it. I don't hear it on the radio like it's a legendary thing.

You know what I'm saying? Right. We miss, what that shit was? Rock the Bells? Nah, nah. nah nah before that Angie Martinez back in the days We only battle of the beats. We only missed that by one day just because The homies Mary and meth came in on our last day and beat us. That was like a hex I love Mary and Mary and meth. Well, which record y'all's all I need all I need but that came in and Knocked us off the place. What was your record? I was um, I was

either Lex or or jeeps, but One of the two I think it was Lex our first song But it got so much accolade, you know saying it was saying? Those are legendary records. We had accolades at, what, New York City? What's that shit? K.R.O.G.? Nah, nah, nah. The TV show. Oh, New York Undercover.

New York Undercover. That's a fact. That was the first episode. Yeah. It was one of those episodes and shit like that. My brother, rest in peace, Big Mike, He passed away at that same time. So the things that we did, like putting things into place, putting rocketing, skyrocketing certain plateaus and stuff like that. We ain't getting recognition for none of that. You know what I'm saying?

A lot of shit that we did, we helped a lot of states. When I was in jail, I was telling them, n telling them know me through their parents their grandparents and that shows that we was around for a long time you know what i'm saying we was around for a long time and just don't give it that respect like you don't hear our music like you were here like not saying in rotation but in rotation you know what i'm saying and it, like, not saying in rotation, but in rotation. You know what I'm saying? And it takes, like, a real DJ that be, like, giving honors that'll play your shit. I be hearing DJ Scratch and stuff.

I be hearing different DJs, but it doesn't resonate like, it's here, it's here, it's here. But niggas, when they hear it, they be like, yeah, them niggas is legendary. Play our shit. Hell yeah. Let us be they hear it, they be like, yeah, them niggas is legendary. Play our shit. Hell yeah. Let us be heard like everybody else will be heard. Hell yeah. You know what I'm saying? I think we got a big click.

That's the real shit. That's just how I feel. You know what I'm saying? Because I've been sitting back, like I said, 19 years. I seen a lot of shit. Right. The music changed. The world changed.

Because when I came out, now I'm looking at the shit like, these niggas, what the fuck they doing? And to our music, I heard you say a few things with a couple of people, like how our music has changed and how niggas is doing it. Right now, I'm listening to niggas like, like I go on my little tours and sit and hear and shit, and I go to

different places. People ain't putting in the work. These young cats, no disrespect to any of them, but they not putting in the work like that. So I hear them like you said. We do our music and if we doing something,

we get a TV track and all this other shit oh so what are you talking about these artists that go out there and just rhyme over they nigga millie vanillie i've been bitching for my first tour i'm like yo y'all can't i don't like that shit we grew up hard you. You got to be able to remember, you wrote these shits. Say them shits. Without backtracks. Can I piggyback off that though? Because I'm an artist

and you know, I work with other artists. I got younger artists that I work in. Don't defend just rhyming on your phone. No, no, no, no, no, no. I know.

We got to hear the opinion. We got to hear the youth opinion. I'm not defending it because like I said, I go on a roll with Unc. You feel me? So the expectations for me is a little bit different. I perform with live bands. I perform with DJs I never met before.

You feel me? So we rock out. You feel me? Like I said, I got to perform with KRS-One. And literally, I watched him. I literally watched him perform two songs that everybody knew and freestyle the whole show. And he let me freestyle with him on the show. You feel me?

Nobody in my generation can ever say they did that. That's one of the best MCs. Goddamn. Make some noise for him. That's you. That's you. It's hard to be on stage with Carrella. It's hard to be on stage and be able to hold yourself down.

You feel me? There's not too many young, you feel me? Because they don't understand what able to hold yourself down. You feel me? There's not too many young, you feel me? Because they don't understand what hip-hop really is. You feel me? Hip-hop right now, like you said, y'all went from going from real to real to us being able to go and pro tools and just, yo, all right, you spit this ball.

You can spit 16 balls individually, and they'll mix it up and make it sound like you just spit it on one track. You feel me? You can do eight balls. You can do whatever you want to do. Like you said, it doesn't take, niggas don't take the time to practice their rhymes no more. Niggas don't go to their mans and be like, yo, I just wrote this.

You feel me? How this sound? You feel me? So it's a different thing. But when it comes to performing over the tracks, you know, like now in this generation, since it's so accessible, everybody want to chase the bag. The expectations for performances, especially for up-and-coming artists, is no real, like, it's no real, like, limitation. No, not no real expectations. So, all the promoters is like, oh, I bet.

I got a show today. If you could pay for the slot. No, no, no. Hey, me out, though. Hey, me out. If you could pay for the slot. But. No, no, no. Hate me out, though. Hate me out. If you could pay for the slot, you get there. And then, on the other hand, there's nobody in these artist teams that's like, yo, bro, you need to be practicing to perform professionally.

That's it. Not perform as an up and come. Because a lot of these artists is getting hot on TikTok and getting hot on, you feel me, on these digital platforms. So they're not real artists. So they're not. It's not even to say that they're not real artists. They're not professional performers.

They're not professional artists. They're not professional. They're made up. But listen, oftentimes there's another defense for the people who perform on backtracks, especially new artists. They'll do all these showcases with shit sound systems. And that's the song. That the mics and the music don't match up at all. new artists. They'll do all these showcases with shit sound systems that the mics and the music don't match up at all. That goes back to what I'm saying

though. There's nobody in the team like, yo, get up and go to sound check so that we could go figure out the game plan before we get there. You feel me? Like, me and my young boys, we got our own mics sometimes. Sometimes we have our own mics. So, the system is, you feel me, it's compatible for our shit. Yo, we'll bring our own mic sometimes. That's what we got. Sometimes we have our own mic. So if the system is, you feel me,

it's compatible for our shit, yo, we'll bring our own shit. We got our mans that'll fuck with the sound, that'll make it sound how we need it to sound. So that we can do what we got to do, you feel me? So in the defense of what's going on, it's not no real standards, you feel me? There's no standards for these new artists.

You got new artists popping up tomorrow. You feel me? It's artists that's going new artists. You got new artists popping up tomorrow And that's what I'm trying to do the same shit all day niggas ain't really I'm so about from our music to this ever now niggas want the bag Yeah, me they're murdering a. Got the wrong ops and all that. You already know the game. I'm just saying. You got, like you said,

you got mad young niggas. Quick and easy. That's what my plateau was about. Like, giving them cats something that you could perform your shit instead of being on a YouTube or... Listen, the funniest shit is that I seen some Motherfucker you lip-syncing how you out of breath wild as shit. That's why I was like, yo, I'm hurt. I'm hurt.

I couldn't believe this shit. Like, yo, man, nah. You ain't even putting in the work. That's the thing. The world is going so fast that people want it so fast that they not even putting in the work to get it. And that goes into them people like regular life situations.

And down to this music. Yeah. You ain't putting in the work. How you out of breath? You ain't smoking, drinking, or nothing. You barely moving. Right.

But you out of breath. And you live singing. A lot of shit. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, the way of the world is totally fucked up. You know what I'm saying? And that the world is totally fucked up you know what I'm saying

and then that's just how I feel that's just how I feel man the world is fucked up because if everybody wants something so fast

so fast I want the bag I want the bag you're not even willing to willing to work for the bag you just want it

and they don't even have any true love for the culture it's just a bag and And they don't even have any true love for the culture. It's just a bag. And it's just like, I'm entitled. Because what? I got a couple of views.

And that's it? It's a quick bag? I got a couple of this. It's bagging attention. Case in the bag, hoping to get attention. And then it's so, it's crazy because

it's like you get a bunch of people that jump behind it because they see how easy it is. Like these artists don't know how to, before these artists get lit, they don't know the opportunities that's out there for them there's

nobody that's like literally in their head so it's somebody praying on them that's like oh this person just went viral right all right i'm gonna jump on this artist and show them that way it's gonna work and show them the bag so if i could go and get 15 racks a show for this viral artist and give them whatever they whatever they think they were i'm gonna go i could eat and i could keep doing this they're gonna keep doing that it's like a predator it's like this internet made it more predatory for people to you know vote on shit look how many look how many artists that you like you for me opinionated you play this artist is doodle Or this artist Like who's even Entertaining this shit

Yeah But they're so They're such a sensation And there's so much Worth in them And you're like What the fuck But it's like

It's people praying On how to make A bag Off of them And once they see a bag You come from nothing And you see a little bit Of change

And your lifestyle Start changing a little bit You gonna go with that Right You gonna go for the back. You feel me? Let me, rewind for one minute.

I know we spoke about it a little bit earlier and you corrected that rumor. But, I remember at one point making it, I remember at one point us being a rapper

like kind of excluded us from like police, like, you know, like, kind of excluded us from, like, police. Like, you know, police would kind of, like, leave us alone. You know, the drug dealers would protect us. Yeah. And then at some point it changed. And it changed to, like, the rapper's the enemy now. And we don't know who our opps is.

We don't know who our who our ops is we don't know whoever and i remember like you know um you know jam master jay freak guitar you know what i mean um the murders of them changing the trajectory because now it's like damn we thought we if we make it as a rapper we we're helping so many people we're safe yeah but then at some point for that it changed like you know I'm saying what what though I remember those two deaths like for me for being from Queens was the freaky top death and the death of Jam Master Jay but we had to be like wait a minute like even us as the people who helped make because one rapper helps 16 different families right and even us, as the people who helped make, because one rapper helps 16 different families.

Right? And even us, whereas now, like, what was it like for all three of y'all? Because. When Tally passed, guys hurt. Yeah, man, you already know, man. Thank you. Damn, I ain't talking about that shit. You know what I mean? Come Yeah, man. You already know, man. I said. Thank you. Damn, I hate talking about that shit. You know what I mean?

Come on, man. That shit was like. God bless. God bless. That was a three-night situation, right? My brother got married, right? What? Well, I got married.

You know what I'm saying? It was my birthday. You know what I'm saying? It was your birthday? It was my birthday, you know what I'm saying? It was your birthday? It was my, my brother got killed, freaky, that's the ill shit, right? Niggas don't even understand, like, the nigga got killed on my birthday,

like, March 20th, like, what the fuck? Hell yeah, we just came back from a show. We always go through this every year. I don't even celebrate my birthday, like, niggas don't even get that shit, it's crazy. May 14th? Nah, that's his birthday. May 14th is his birthday, don't even get that shit. It's crazy. May 14th? Nah, that's his birthday. May 14th is his birthday.

March 28th. That's how he was born, May 14th. That's what we do, free tie day on May 14th. Free tie day, okay. Yeah, we just do free tie day, May 14th. We all go out there, do what we do. But nah, he got killed on my birthday, so that always hurt. You know what I mean?

Like, damn, man. I mean, yo, that's crazy, right? God bless. I mean, you already know how I feel about that shit. I don't even like talking about it too much. I get so crazy with it. So, it's like, nah, man. God bless.

You already know how I feel about it. I'll be bugging when I talk about it. I think, you know, Drink Champs, we make noise for everything that's good. I think right now we need to have a moment of silence. Oh, man. That was a freaky time. Okay. And have a moment of silence.

Love you, kid. Facts. Rest in peace, fucking freaky time. I'll get a drink for that. Yeah, I'll take it. Oh, yeah, I'm going to take a cold one for that. Yo, kid, man. Everybody.

Some serious shit, Taliq, man. One of the dopest voices in the game. Mm-hmm. I'm not a fan. Now, was he considered a hype man? No, he was just too. Or was, yeah. I don't know how they count hype, man.

He was just bad. They say he a hype man, But Taliq rap too. Rap too. Y'all don't understand. Right. For me, seeing Taliq since we was in high school, Taliq used to, remember your mama jokes? Yeah.

Don't tell me he was a mama joke king. If you and him was going at each other, Taliq would get at you and get at both of y'all. And in a pattern. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. That's how he developed his skills. He had heat all day.

Right. And he had jokes. Right. So he would get at both of y'all in a pattern that was like, oh shit. That shit might stop him. And then after that, he'll stop, pull out a marker and write a stick man on your leg. On your jeans.

This is at lunchtime. And we skipped from lunchtime, our first period of lunchtime to the end of the day. All like three periods. What are you doing? Cheeks be over there rapping. Todd be over there. Louie playing cards.

The situation was crazy. And I just like, I came from, I was in Queens, I went to South Carolina, I came back to South Carolina. And fame came to John Adams and that's how we all got together. Meeting each other, individuals. You know what I'm saying? Knowing that everybody, green eyes mmm you mad there was a couple of us but basically Talik would just get in that that rhythm and your heads up yeah eventually we started forming our group like cheeks me and cheeks is always in the

basement me and she started going in the basement doing Me and Cheeks started going to the basement, doing it. I'm telling Cheek, I'm telling Talik, come on, let's go. Come to my crib, let's practice. Practice. And basically, one thing led to another. He started practicing. Practicing.

It was, what's that song, Ghetto Boys. Mind Playing Tricks on me? Mind Playing Tricks on me. Me and Talik did a joint called 24 Hour, 24 Hour, no, 24, 24 Carat Gold. 24 Carat Gold. Remember that joint? 24 Carat Gold. You're bringing it so hard.

Me and him practiced that, practiced that. Me and Cheeks was doing other shit. Yeah, Black Man and all that. Black Man, Cheeks was the Black Man at that time and shit like that. Black Fish, you remember back in the day. He was at the African Joint for the Galleons and all that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. the black man at that time and shit like that. Black fish, you remember back in the day. The African girls with the medallions and all that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We was doing all that at that time.

Then he became... When I say this nigga, I ain't go front. People love him because he could rhyme without cursing. Man, yeah. Rockin'. That nigga ain't cursed, no. Rockin'. Rockin'.

Ooh. That nigga rhymes without cursing. That's all I like. Rockin' rhymes without ain't cursed, no. Rockin'. Rockin'. Ooh. That nigga rhymes without cursing. That's all I like. Rockin' rhymes without cursing. And y'all like Renee, but before Renee, there was another chick. You know, we got chicks and shit. Damn, my bad.

Yeah, it was disrespectful, man. Damn, my bad. There was Donna. Who's holding Donna? We had joints. Yeah. Yeah. We had a lot of good music.

You know what I'm saying? Good songs that we practiced. And he goes to the park and practices and stuff like that. We tape him in the basement and shit like that. I practiced with Ty, 24 Karat Gold. The only thing with Ty was he couldn't remember his rhymes. So basically I gave him a mini tape recorder and made him practice. Listen to what you said.

Because Ty could freestyle like you thought he wrote some shit. Like Fludge. And he'll freestyle from here around the block. He'll rhyme for hours. And it'd be on that title. You know what I'm saying? He might just start rhyming, then start flowing be on that title. You know what I'm saying? He might just start rhyming, then start flowing on niggas.

You know what I'm saying? Start getting heat. Just around the circle and shit. Or in the... Shit. This dude, this lady, this... He goes into that shit. So I'm just like,

yo, record that shit. When you go to the studio, when you go around the way in the center, third, record that shit. He used to be on the boulevard on Godbrook, 13 that shit. When you go to your studio, when you go around the way in the standard third, record that shit. He used to be on the boulevard on God Brute, 134. Niggas is out there, and I could hear him. He let me hear the tapes and shit.

He might be talking and stuff like that, and then he just started rhyming on niggas, rapping and breaking on niggas, heating on niggas and shit like that. Everybody was out there. We got, what you call, Boo Boo, 50. Yeah. 50 was one, three, four.

Listen, you don't even understand the history we got. 50 was supposed to be a boxer. You know what I'm saying? He was a boxer. He is a boxer. He's a boxer. He's been doing it. He was the golden boy.

Lamar Odom, that was our basketball player. Lamar Odom, that was from your hood too, right? That's our basketball player. We was trying to form a team. Y'all don't understand that the division that we had coming up. All we needed was a football player and a baseball player. We had a football player, Jeff Kempbrook.

John Adams, Jeff Kempbrook. I forgot about him. I forgot him. And we did have the homieie Montel. What's his name? Montel. We got a team in the league now.

Shout out to my man Dean Marlow, man. Montel's a boxing champion. He was a heavyweight boxer. So we had a lot of shit. You know what I'm saying? You understand? Our thoughts is different. We had players that was going to associate with Lost Boys.

We tried to get our clothing line associated. All this shit was before. It was bigger than music for y'all. Yeah. All this shit was before what's going on in the last 15 years. Yeah. Jay with the sports team and all that stuff. Yeah. We're already thinking like that.

We already was thinking this is nice. Hey, yo, where that girl at? You know what I'm saying? So we had a lot of shit going on with the clothes and like FUBU and stuff like that. Oh, yeah. You already had all that shit. You already had those thoughts before y'all even came out.

Cousin, you remember on Miss Walker? Walker where? Yeah, we had her on the show. I'm just saying, that's how we go. We've been around. Since the beginning of people's

April. Ideas. What's your connection with the Marlies? The Marlies? The Marlies? Not the Marlies. Not the Marlies.

Stop. Everyone else heard the Marlies. The Marlies, brother. 1997. L else heard the Marley. The Marley's brother. 1997. Lollapalooza's all. Fuquan introduced us. Fuquan introduced us.

Damn. Shout out to Fuquan out this motherfucking way. Fuquan. He got deported. Bum bum. He introduced us to the Marley. We was doing the little show. Not the little show.

We was on the B stage. Yeah, the B stage. You know, the Marley, Snoop. Lollapalooza. Snoop Dogg and them was over there. We do our show. They come see us. The Marley come check our show out

because they're really fucking fans of that. Finally, Damien Marley. Whatever, right? Yeah. I mean, imagine. So we met on the, they say, yo'll come to the bus Imagine that bus you got the Marley's hmm you got snoop and you got the Lost Boys. That was a high ass bus. All these motherfuckers on the one bus, I was damn mad.

I ain't going to say I was the first, but I was like the second to go off that bus like this. Yes. Oh my God, I can't breathe. That's how the bus,

all that shit, I don't even remember who the, everybody. The first record we ever made with them is called Guiltiness. Shout out to Guiltiness.

Oh yeah. Check down Babylon album. They out for a bus somebody else's ass. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Check down Babylon album. They all go bust somebody else's ass. Yeah. Is that why you were down south my way? Because a lot of the Marlies

are that way in Kendall area. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. No, listen, listen. Those are our brothers. Those are our brothers.

That's our family, though. The day that we got on that bus and connected and made that bond, just like Snoop. Since 1997. Those are our brothers. They used to call, Spig, what you doing? That's when I was living uptown. Spig, what you doing? Me and Foucault. We was roommates. What you doing? Nah, we just chilling. Hey, there's a ticket at LaGuardia Airport. Get there. We get down there and they come

pick us up in the stand at the third. Take us to this little secluded area. So we chilling there like we smoking blunt. They getting soccer shit made up in the stand. Because they getting the soccer poles and the goals and all that shit.

But they in a solution and it's like man this is nice they gave us a half ounce of weed next thing you know all these people start coming

cars start Lauryn Hill even came with a bunch of with a stroller with three joints on their back it's like damn

Rohan what are you doing there it was it was it was it was going down and they started playing and kicking and everything else

the Marlies man that's like family they're calling they're like yo come on down what's up let's do it you know what I'm saying

Steven and Damien me and Damien did a beat together at the crib Mama Marley we family when I say we family

we come to Florida RIP to Joe Mercer like that RIP Joe Mercer at the crib, Mama Molly. We family. When I say we family, we come to Florida. R.I.P. to Joe Mercer. Like that. R.I.P. Joe Mercer. Those are our family. That's our brother. Stuff like that.

R.I.P. All of us used to do it. Salute. We don't got to take a shot. This is a drink. This is love. This is a drink. You just take a sip of your own drink. Man.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, going through your music. You're a hard- ass interviewer. No, no, no. What the fuck? Thank you. Don't even have to sit there. Music is like, I could see y'all make music thinking about the performance as well. We performance. So what do y'all like more? Making the music or performing the music? Performing all day like this.

Let's go. That's one thing about me. Like, when I go do these tours, on my grind tours, next one is in Baltimore. On my grind. Next week is Baltimore. Next one is in Baltimore. Tell them where. May 6th. May 6th in Baltimore.

Tell them where. Yes, shout it out. We on our grind, man. On our grind tour. On our grind. On our grind. This is the tour that I'm good at. I'll be there too. You already know, man. It's all love. You know what I'm saying? That's right.

That's right. Everybody's invited. Right. But even when I was in jail, just say another. Okay. People are like, yo, how you like that shit? You like that video? The video is cool.

Videos is cool. Right. I want to see, like, the BET award. I want to see these niggas perform this shit. See, we was the type that was performing. We'll get the back. We'll get up there, go on. We get that. This side, everybody. Involved. We stage niggas.

Right. Some of these cats ain't stage niggas. The niggas just stay in the middle like this and it's not a third. You know what I'm saying? No disrespect. I'm just going to be real, really real. Let's be real. The homie, the big homie. When Jay-Z came out, Jay-Z used to have a that's going to be real. Yeah. Really real. Let's be real. The homie, the big homie, big homie.

When Jay-Z came out, Jay-Z used to have a bulletproof vest and stay in the middle of the stage and rap real fast. Right. Rap real fast. Nobody really like

got that. You know what I'm saying? When he first came out. Yeah. There was a couple of times, there was one time that I definitely remember in the bronx

and i and i told people i used to tell the story there was a vibe magazine with shine on the cover remy martin's remy she said her first show that she seen she she seen Jay-Z performing. People booed him and said, put the Lost Boys on. No disrespect. It's just a show. That's a fact. Showmanship is everything. I seen a lot of people do shows throughout my time. I seen a couple of dudes imitate our dance. But I seen this. I can't just say I heard this. I seen this on live TV shows and shit like that. Imitate the Lost Boy dance.

It influenced a lot of culture, a lot of people. I'm talking about down here in Atlanta. Well, this being Florida, I'm talking about in Atlanta. Because Atlanta became the biggest population, you know, where it's popping. You know what I'm saying? That happened since, like I said, the Nelly joint. Outkast was coming in, making sure shit was coming in. A lot of shit was going down. But anyway. Rim shop.

The rim shop. Detroit homies. We've seen that Atlanta culture. But anyway. But anyway. Rim shop. The rim shop. Detroit homies. We've seen that Atlanta culture. But anyway. But for real, for real, I seen these cats grow up. Our showcase

made other dudes, if they was really paying attention, this is how we make these people come to us, you know Involving the show and shit like that because that's what we was doing But it wasn't lip-syncing or nothing like that record scratch the record scratch and we was still getting it in We started with that or real DJ I'm a DJ He said records yeah, he said records scratch

Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, you know what I'm saying If it was fucked up, it was fucked up, we start over and we do it again. Nowadays, you don't got that. Nowadays, you don't got real performances on stage. You're standing around just doing your guys sitting here. You might

be here and he over here, but they still together like they scared. Shit like that. We them dudes that go, we'll get in the crowd. We'll go up the steps or whatever, just standing third. You don't got that totally. You barely got niggas just, like I said, moving around.

You got to entertain these people. These people came to see you. These people came to pay this money to see you. These $100 tickets and shit like that. Shit like that These people came to see you. These people came to pay this money to see you. These $100 tickets and shit like that. Shit like that. They came to see you. Just like they paying for Beyonce. Right.

You know what I'm saying? They paying for Beyonce. They paying for Beyonce. Make some noise for them paying for Beyonce. They giving a profit. They paying now. There's something that been floating around for a prop. They paying now. They going to fuck up the next one. There's something that's been floating around for a minute. Yo, this is dope. LL Cool J.

LL Cool J? Yeah. Noriega or CNN. Hmm? What? What's going on? Hold on Let me finish

Talk, talk, talk You don't know He coming with it He coming with it Bob He's saying something He's saying something Lost Boy

He's saying something That sounds epic Royal Fudge Oh yeah Akineli What? I see that at the New York

KOD's I see that at the arena Because The Queen Tour That'd be crazy Yes Queen's Day I see that That'd be so KOD's through. Because the Queen tour. Yes. I see that. Remember Queen's Day

and Flushing Metal? Listen. Can we make a Queen's Day tour with all of us? While we can't get the Queen's Get the Money tour. I mean, that's what this is.

It's basically that. I'm calling it that. You're not going to say Queen's Get the Money tour.'m calling it that. You were going to say, quiz, get the money tour. He wanted it to be very literal. Listen, kids ain't no. Jackson, we can't be over here. We getting the money tour.

I had a dream. Wild call quest. Let me understand. What? Listen, I had a dream. You see, I didn't say Nas, Nas. I had to be quiz, get the money. Of course I said Nas.

If I didn't, it was in my head. Of course. I had a dream. I used to lay on that bunk. Yeah. I'm on fucking other bunk bunk I'm on the fucking other bunk cause I'm on the bottom bunk

I'm looking up and I had these dreams I had these dreams it was like yo Queens day everybody can make a at least couple hundred thousand

yeah hey man just sign me up couple hundred thousand I already had all that man. Just sign me up. A couple hundred thousand. I already had all that shit planned out. And I'm just queen. Just sign me up. All the rest of the boroughs.

No, no. What's that shit? The U.S. The new arena they built? The joint that Rock the Bells had? Nah. The Rock the Bells shit was at the tennis arena shit. Summer Gym.

Summer Gym is at... What's the name of that shit? The new shit where the hockey team about to be at. The US Army. The hockey team about to come to Queens? The Long Island. Queens is, you know, Queens is. You know what we do, man? We got two events.

The hockey team in Queens? We got something every sport. What's the location for summer gym? The summer gym shit. Now y'all want to be in Queens. I thought the holidays was in Jersey. That shit is... On the low.

It's the Devils. That shit is... That's the Devils. All right, I'm wilding out. I'm wilding out. Hey, yo, Queens, if anything, nobody on the night... The USB Arena. Yeah.

That's what they do on Summer Jam at this shit. Yeah. And then you just... The Rock the Bell shit. We got two big-ass Queens arenas. Listen, if Queens don't got more than anybody in every... They do Queens Day in Atlanta. They got Queens Day in Atlanta. Yo, yo, yo, yo. Big up to everybody. They do Queens Day in Atlanta. They got Queens Day in Atlanta.

Big up to everybody that go to Queens Day in Atlanta. I happened to be there the day before it, and every fucking barrel, every fucking, let me say barrel because we're not a barrel, but every fucking town. Every corner of Queens was in there. Yeah, yeah. We left the day before or the day after, I forget. And I see South Jamaica holland I see I see everybody and they all get money in Atlanta big data you've seen a lot yes yeah. Yes, man. Shout out to my nigga DJ Justin. Yes, yes.

Since the Olympics. That's when Queens basically came down, when the Olympics came. Let me ask you something. If you could change anything in your life, who would you change? Only thing I would change, and you know people always talk about, I wouldn't change that because it made me who I am. Certain things make people who they are, but sometimes situations happen. I would have changed that jail sentence.

You said what? I would have changed that jail sentence. You would have? I would not have been in jail. Even though I say that because the things that I learned in jail I learned some shit in jail when you go there you're not not gonna learn

something you're gonna learn how to I knew young cats that didn't know how to clean their ass regardless the toilet bowl the floor or whatever the case may be niggas learn in jail. If you never did that shit before,

you're going to learn how to cook. You're going to learn how to do this, do that. Shit you ain't did at home. When you was young, your mother and your parents was doing it for you. You're going to learn how to do shit because you got old heads like me

and older heads. They're going to show you shit. I learned in jail. But the fact is, you're going to learn. You're going to show you shit. I learned in jail. But the fact is you're going to learn. You're going to be able to learn and show and tell. You know what I'm saying?

When you get kids or whatever you're going to show them how to do this, do that, do this. I wouldn't have got that jail sentence. But if I didn't I wouldn't have learned the shit that I know how to do now. You did 19th Street?

Yeah. 19th Street. 19th Street. 19th Street, man. I learned a lot because not just saying the pressure, that's why I'm going to have this podcast, Visiting Owls with Spig. This is big, nice.

You know what I'm saying? Go ahead, boy. Niggas that have been in jail can teach people out here. We see a different world than y'all see. Y'all been out here? We see a different world than y'all see. Y'all been out here? We see a whole lot of shit that niggas be like, ah, this shit is hard.

This shit is struggling. That's just a bunch of lazy shit. You know what I'm saying? Lazy shit. Because we seeing things that we can do to manipulate that system that y'all seeing. And we already building. You know what I'm saying? Okay, when I get out there, I can do this. I can do that. I can do seeing. And we already building. You know what I'm saying?

Okay, when I get out there, I could do this, I could do that, I could do this. I could do that. If they doing it that way, we can do it this way. But while y'all out here,

y'all in the struggle because I live both sides. So I see the struggle and stuff like that. But sometimes just a little extra money or something like that can get me to what I want to do over here.

While y'all over here, I got homies. You know what I'm saying? While y'all doing this over here, these niggas seen this, brought it over here, and elevated. It's just sometimes people is lazy. I say sometimes they say the corona got niggas lazy and shit like that because now they ain't got to work so hard for money And I ain't gonna work ppb loans Them shits and shit was outside. So niggas like yo outside two days I worked for two three weeks a month or something like that fall back get a check and shit like that

Something we got a shit guy Donald Trump a lot of shit got lazy. I don't jump was kind shit got lazy. Donald Trump was kind of a real nigga, I'm being honest. I ain't going to say he didn't. Listen, Donald Trump got me out of jail. Y'all don't understand. Donald Trump got me out of jail. He got you out of jail? Donald Trump got this nigga out of jail, God. They're the black man.

But Obama had the same things that Trump had. Yeah, but Obama was black had Obama didn't do it Trump said I'm going to do what you ain't do A lot of shit that he didn't do A lot of shit that he had He said I'm going to do it Just to Trump

He did that to Trump Listen He did that to Trump He did that to Trump the black man He did shit to Trump. Listen, listen. He did that to Trump, the black man. He did shit to Trump, the black man. He did shit with a white boy can do. He just did something that... What you talking about?

He did with a white boy can do. This is a real conversation, bro. No, no, no. He did shit that... He did what a white boy can do. Can do. He did what a white man can do. And that's what he did.

I thank him for you coming on. No, I'm just saying. I say you're a piece of shit. And you're we did. I thank him for you coming on. No, I'm just saying. I say a piece of shit. And you're going to get your dues. I think we should come in these boxes, too. What, some golden flowers? Some golden flowers with the golden flowers? You don't want to be drug traffickers,

Cheeks. We try to give you their flowers. We do what we do. I'm glad you're home. Come on, let's make some noise for your mom. We trying to get you to take flowers. We do what we do. I'm glad you're home. I know. Come on, let's make some noise for your mom. I'm not going to overlook the fact that he released you and Kodak Black. That's two real niggas to me.

Two real niggas. And Lil Wayne. And Lil Wayne. No, I ain't going to say. That's real niggas to me. I'm sorry. What he did was. I ain't going to say. That's real niggas to me. I'm sorry. What he did was. I don't mean to say this.

What he did was try to go over Black man. What he tried to do. Listen, what he did. I'm like, what? Listen, what he did was just try to do something better than the Black man. He's a white guy. You know what I'm saying? Even though we know.

If anybody knows he's white, man. George. Obama tried to. But Joe Biden ain't even outside. What's up with him? No, say even though we know if anybody knows his way Obama Obama What's up with him You're being punished right now. I do not. Obama was such a great president. No, I'm sorry. I've been out of style. You better like him, because right now, World War III is right upon his fucking head. He better not. He handling that some way.

I don't want him to be involved in World War III. You see? You see they stop fucking with our dollar bill now. Yeah, they just trying to simmer us down. Remember back in the days, your grandma would say, sit down. They trying to do it. They saying, it's going to take a lot.

Sit with your guys. But they acting stupid. Yeah, but that dollar that they billed days your grandma would say, step it down. They trying to do it. It's going to take a lot. But they acting stupid. Yeah, but that dollar that they build is going to fuck us up for a long time. Listen, man. No, they're not building

the dollar. They're trying to get away from the dollar. I remember our bill was a lot of money. Yeah, I remember one time, I remember,

I'll tell you one time. Especially in our area. I remember one time I went to London. They simmered me down. I gave them, it's just like, you can't spend American

money in London. So I gave the guy that's cashing in like $1,000 or like $1,200. And they gave me like $459. I was like, wait a minute. I said, I know I failed math class, but this ain't right. That ain't right. That's not house money.

Y'all owe me, and they said, the American dollar ain't shit out here. What year was that? I don't remember. No, the house money. Y'all owe me, and they said, the American dollar ain't shit out here. What year was that? I don't remember. No, the Euro at one point was more money than... Yeah. Kicking our ass. Yeah, be like that, dude. But it wasn't bad for us at that time.

You good, though, right? But that's how I say it right now. I don't good, though. With this money right now. That's a plan, right? That's it. Of course. That's it.

Of course. That's the millionaires of the money that they making. Right. Now, if there was an hour An hour error Say we was making Like the most you was making

20, 30,000 Right That was Ailey That was big money Right Now Yeah cause inflation changed And you gotta keep

Right Nowadays 20, 30 years later Now 20, 30,000 Ain't the same It ain't the way. Right, to be a millionaire now isn't the same as it was back then.

And it's always in a certain time of era and shit like that. You know what I'm saying? I can't say it, but in that era. You know what I'm saying? Nigga. Because a dollar of chips will buy you four things. You get a bag of chips. You get a motherfucking juice.

Quarter water. Yeah, a quarter water. A little Debbie's and something else. For a dollar get you at least, a dollar get you a meal. It used to be a Twinkie at one point. A dollar get you a meal.

Now a dollar get you a dollar. You better add on to it. Yeah, I remember you get a slice and a juice for a dollar. Oh, you had less than a dollar slice? A dollar slice. 50 cent slices, 50 cent juice.

50 cent slices? At one point, yeah. That shit was bad for your health, bro. What slice is not bad for your health, sir? Tell me what healthy slice you've been eating. Shout out to Allen Street. What was that? Allen Street, buddy

Chinese bus Wait, Chinese bus That go from New York to Boston? It goes New York Across the globe Really? Shout out to the Chinese bus

I only heard about it I just want to say I just want to give him A shout out I told him Give me a shout out Anyway, right? And I heard that was cheap

Yeah, the bus? Yeah, but you're not going to be on it. $80. Up and down 95. You're going to ride all over them. Nigga. And now it's like a water bus. And you get stopped.

I heard about this shit. It was the southwest of buses. Oh, my God. $10 to ride the bus from New York to fucking Florida? You know what I'm saying? You saw Eddie join. Eddie's there. He heard Queens, Queens, Queens, Queens.

And he showed up immediately. All for fun. Eddie has seen it. Eddie has seen it. If you don't know how to get to... Another Queens legend. If you don't know how to get down here, from down over there. All right, cool.

I heard that shit was like crazy, but... Don't say nothing. I don't know how to get down here? From down over there? Yeah. All right, cool. I heard that shit was like crazy, but... Don't say nothing. I don't know. Bye. That was shit. That was that. Japanese bus. The Japanese bus?

Yeah. Show us something. It's crazy. Now, that should be real, okay? Yo, shout-outs to all them people that... Shout-outs to the cigarette smugglers. I ain't gonna lie. Cheeks might have gave the most shout-outs.

You see me giving them all in like that? That's how you know you're a good nigga. Like he's on the radio thing. He's trying to remember everybody. Your cousin is over here

like this. That's a good hearted person right there. Cheeks give shout outs between conversations. Everybody's like, yo, shout outs.

You know what I'm saying? Continue on. Let me think about it. He's like, listen to this part of the conversation. I'll give you a shout out right now. Oh, man, I'm sneaking mine in early. Let me ask you, and I know this is kind of like a cliche type of question, but did you ever think that hip hop would make it this far?

God damn. Did I think it it i guess so because i wanted to be in it since i've been first heard of yeah since i first since like 79 yo how the fuck old are you you know what i'm saying this is before you heard it on the radio. I'm old-landing. I was going to... I actually, no disrespect,

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Right. And that song became one of the songs of somebody rhyming over it. Even though I heard Curtis Blow with basketball rap, that was like the first song that was on the radio. That was dope. Not to me.

Right, right. I don't remember Sugar Hill Gang being the first joint. I heard Curtis Blow. And then that basketball, forgive me, but I think Little Mama's mother sung on that song think Little Mama What the Little Mama's mother Sung on that song Little Mama On which song

On which song They're playing Basketball Little Mama's song Her mother was like A first R&B person That's a tongue twister Little Mama's mom

Little Mama mama Her mother was like The first R&B person The first First R&B artist You talking about Little Mama that Crashed the stage Yeah yeah That's what you're talking about That first My lip gloss is popping Her mother was like the first R&B person. The first R&B artist. You mean Little Mama that crashed the stage? Yeah, yeah.

That's what you're talking about. My lip gloss is popping. Her mom. I miss my people. I love Little Mama. You want to know a person? Paul Mia? Joe Bunce?

Who's your cousin? Who's her? Fat boy. Oh, that's Buffy? That's Buffy. I was saying, I was talking to him with a mind blown. Mind blown. Yeah, I was over here and shit.

He's like, who's my cousin? But her mother was the first R&B artist on Def Jam. That's funny. You know. They're playing basketball. That's little mama's mama. That's crazy. If I'm not mistaken, that's her mother. Oh, here you go.

But I'm more than 90%. I'm not mistaken. You can't be mistaken. Listen, I'm more than 90%. I'm more than 90%. That's her mother. I'm not mistaken. You taking wages?

That's her mother. If y'all over there. Hey, Google it. See if you find it You just said you're not working at all What the fuck I remember this I didn't put it together

That's your job You the only hitman He's like, word It might be Listen, I didn't put it together Listen, I didn't put it together. Listen, I didn't put it together. Listen, listen, listen. I didn't put it together until she said on one of those reality shows she was in. Little Mama. Her mother, yeah.

Her mother was like the first R&B artist on Def Jam. Who was the first artist? Like beginning of Def Jam. Curtis Blow. This was like 70. Was he officially Def Jam Or just managed by Rush Management Cause that might be the difference in that In that statement

If it wasn't for Def Jam Then you might know something But if I'm not mistaken That shit go together But Those was my I heard that on the radio first We had crazy legs on here He said he shot a What the deal? Those was my... I heard that on the radio first. He talking about B-Streets.

We had Crazy Legs on here. But yeah, but... He said he shot a drug commercial with Curtis Blow. They did blow. He said right after something like that, right? He said they did blow. Wasn't Crazy Legs... He said they shot a same-nother drugs commercial.

Wasn't Crazy Legs in a Sprite commercial with you? Same-nother drugs commercial. Wasn't Crazy Legs in a Sprite commercial? I don't know. Was Crazy Legs in a Sprite commercial with you? Ain't no other joke. Wasn't Crazy Legs in the Sprite commercial? I don't know. Was Crazy Legs in the Sprite commercial with us? Hell yes. Crazy Legs. Let's talk about the Sprite commercial.

We had a... Hey, yo. To talk about it, you saw how you said... Remember when we was talking about Freaky Todd being categorized as the hype man? Not for nothing. Hold on, we need one conversation. Hold on. Hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on, we need one conversation. Hold on. All the ladies. Skills to fill them. Skills to fill them. Skills to fill them. So look, not even to talk about it. Like they said, like you was talking,

they categorized Free Guitar, my pops, as a hype man. One is honor because they categorize him as one of the best. We're going to take that. You feel me? He right on the flip side. It's argumentative.

They say fave. He's in a town. I'm glad you didn't give that question. That was one. As we speak on that, are we talking the early days of rappers getting real endorsements, commercials that's being broadcast

on real national TV? I'm a young kid. I'm probably six, seven years old seeing my uncles and my pops on commercials for Sprite. You feel me? Now we're talking about, which I did the Grandmaster Flash joint.

Now, let's pay attention to the commercial. Chiefs, come on. We are the fantastic LBs. We got the Sprite. Now, where's the ladies? And who comes on? Breaking the frills now. My pops came on and spit.

My pops spit a verse in pig Latin and then brought it back into some ill niggas with crazy legs in the middle of the joint. I don't speak the Latin, so I probably didn't catch that. I'm supposed to. You make me feel mad dumb right now.

Thank you. That nigga Ty was doing some shit. Niggas is doing like, don't even understand what he was. Look, LB for Life album. The last track on the joint is the Freaky Ty outro. Produced by RP,

gutter butter. You feel me? That's one of our in-house producers. That's my mentor. You feel me? When I started doing music, like he took me in there like, like I was a son of his

and he was a producer for the family. You feel me? Fast forward, like put it back into the perspective of the And he was a producer For the family You feel me Fast forward Like put it back Into the perspective Of the Freaky Todd outro Okay me Freaky Todd Born the month of May

Back to show these Yeah no doubt Here comes the weed Back to the house Told my niggas To get the hell out About to get busy Yeah no doubt

Born when the death To eat the other out Get real freaky Put my tongue in the mouth Put my tongue in the mouth That's the cadence Of rap right now And now listen to the beat,

it's one of those drill type beats. That's what I was thinking. Back then, you feel me? So when I was talking to one of your mans before we got on, I'm like, yo, the energy and the shit, even though the new generation

may not understand Lost Boy history, you feel me? That's why we we here right now. It's always going to be embedded in history. Look at the DJ Khaled and Lado record. They did the Lights, Camera, Action, join over for Lado's new record. That's the single that they pushed.

Right. That's the Lights, Camera, Action, shout out Bink though. That's big time records. You got Floyd Mayweather running, doing miles to Lost Boys, Lifestyles of the Rich and Shameless. You feel me? In his early, you feel me? In his IG history, I pay attention.

You feel me? So it's always embedded in the culture. Look at the Migos. Look at the Migos. Niggas start talking about how the Migos is the biggest rap group of our generation, my generation, not their generation. Now look at, we just sat here

and spoke about a couple hours of the lineage of what the Lost Boys brought to the table. Africa, Europe, Asia taking over. Shit. The difference is they didn't have the same digital, they didn't, they planted the seed for this new era of shit.

Simultaneously, like you feel me? It's like unconscious, it's unconsciously in the shit. So when era of shit. Simultaneously, you feel me? It's unconsciously in this shit. So when Lotto and DJ Khaled drop that record and Lotto go back to her mom's, her mom's is like, yo, I used to be in Miami like this. What? I used to be like this back in the day.

I'm like, what you know about that? You feel me? So when these records is resurfacing and coming into the new era, even with, look how all the new artists is just doing, even your record. Your record came back bigger than ever. Oh yeah, I forgot. Your record was crazy.

Y'all didn't get that comeback like that. You feel me, sir? You got it on you, sir. You're right. That's it. You're right. As a student of the hip-hop culture, you feel me? As a legacy of the hip-hop culture, I'm paying attention. I look at things a little bit different, you feel me? So when I see it come back, like I said, even down to my mental, like I said, the last record, Like I said The last record The outro He

I'm like yo You don't even know What the hell you doing Cause like that's around When I started like Getting into music That's when like Lex Luger and all

Was making beats So the beat cadences Started speeding up And getting Chief Keef and the drill Started coming in You feel me so It's starting

You feel me so It's not all the way Influential You feel me so But I'm. It started. You feel me? So it's not all the way influential. You feel me? So, but I'm listening like, but as they speeding it up, they going to,

you got the, the, the, the European influence and all these people are freaking good looking. Cause all these people, you got what?

Um, now I got some Fonto though. These are some good joints though for my man. You know what I mean? But like I was saying though, long story short, it's like the influence that hip-hop have, even like I said,

even down to the drill music. When you go to Europe, they appreciate our music so much more that they take the time to try to recreate our culture over there. You feel me? So when we do go over there and we hear something and it's fresh to us, it's like,

yo, it's fresh to y'all, but we doing this for y'all. We doing this because of y'all. You feel me? We making this new shit because of y'all. Look at R.I.P. Pop Smoke. You feel me? He went to Europe and got that drill sound.

You feel me? He got a German engineer, like his sound. Oh, I didn't know that. Those drill beats that you was hearing him on and that you hear these New York drill rappers on, they was coming from across seas that they was finding on YouTube. You feel me?

They finding these YouTube producers and shit like that and they getting lit. These songs is generating the sound. You feel me? That's why New York drill and Chicago drill do not sound the same. You feel me? But that's neither here nor there. You feel me?'s why new york drill and chicago drill do not sound the same you feel me but that's neither here or there you feel me to bring it back here i say it's all it comes from a seed that was planted from a culture that not only us as the lost boy family that y'all you

feel me let me give y'all flowers for me you know i always do it, but this is from, you feel me? But even you, Nori, like niggas like us, y'all planted a certain energy in hip-hop that can never go away. Because even the sound of music that y'all was making, y'all was taking the old samples from which y'all was listening to. Y'all mama's living room, you feel me? What they was playing on Sunday morning, what they was cleaning up to in the crib, what they was driving to in the car. So y'all was taking those songs. So what you think we was doing? What you think we doing? You Now we got Fabuloso. We doing the same shit?

Yeah, I do the purple Fabuloso. Okay, I got more. Come on, let's do it. Let me say, I want to say, I want y'all to tell me the first thing that comes to your mind. Legal drug money.

Pretty Lou. Pretty Lou. I was going to say that shit. Pretty Lou. Yes, yes. Pretty Lou. Pretty Lou. Everyone explain why both of that.

Tell me why. Pretty Lou is the mind. Behind that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty Lou, y'all see Pretty Lou on stage or something like that. If y'all seen him on stage, he don't. Behind that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty Lou don't, y'all see Pretty Lou on stage or something like that.

If y'all seen him on stage, he don't be doing much. Yeah. He might get a mic and he sit on the damn speaker. Yeah. Pretty Lou is like the smartest of us.

Yeah. Oh, wow. He's the brain. Yeah, he is the smartest of us. Hello, buddy. He got a show tonight. But listen, Pretty Lou comes up with

the mindset of albums and shit like that. He might hear all this stuff, and we don't know what the hell. Like, we don't know what the hell we're thinking. Hey, man. The album. That nigga said, listen. That nigga said. We was sitting around Bailey Pond.

Tell him. Smoking weed and shit. Talking about like, yo, yo, I want to be a drug dealer, but I don't really want to sell no drugs. I want the cars and all that shit. We got to do it the way we do it, right? Let's make some legal drug money. Music is drugs.

You know what I mean? You can make some money from that shit. You can flip that shit. And then, you know what I mean? That's what it was. So, that's how Lou came,

came through with that. Word to my mother. We was over there smoking weed on that. You know what I'm saying? I don't, I think it was brutal. So that's how Lou came through with that. Word to my mother. We was over there smoking weed on that. You know what I'm saying? When you had Big Leg come through. When we went in the studio. Big Leg. Big Leg.

Big Leg. Yeah, but Lou came over with that name. Yeah. That name came from him. And it was just fruition. Yeah. Because this is what he's seen as we've seen. This is our life.

This is what we're seeing. We're giving y'all a picture of what we're seeing. We're giving y'all our movie. You know what I'm saying? Our album. We're making some music and shit. Sick of doing what we was doing. Yeah.

We need to get out of that. Yeah. Get it out of that lifestyle, the hood. Even though we still hood niggas, we get out of the hood. Or we showing y'all the hood. Or the people that don't know about the hood. You know how you do it? Show people that Queens ain't the only place you can get money at.

You go out of town to get money. Yeah, you can. You go out of town to get love. As a group, though, going into the system, getting a deal, record deal, how did you guys divide everything? Because that's what usually breaks up groups. Yeah, well, dividing was, well, I can say what it was, right? We signed the contract. It was just me and Freaky Ty that signed the contract.

You know what I'm saying? Because that's what they wanted. They didn't even want the whole group. You know what I'm saying? Wait,'s what they wanted. They didn't even want the whole group. You know what I'm saying? Wait, what did you just say? The him and Freaky Todd were the only ones. Only you and Freaky Todd

was on the crowd? Nah, they ain't really want... They were... Listen, it was the 90s. Yeah. And they was like, nigga, what is these niggas

doing that y'all like... Nigga, that's my nigga. They didn't see the vision. They, yeah, exactly. All right. So, that's how they put... I mean, we were young, so... Right. That was. All right. Division. That's how they put... I mean, we were young, so...

Right. That was officially on contract. Right. How'd y'all deal with it? They got cheeks and tie on the side of Detroit. Me and Lou didn't get the side. They just the niggas with me.

They didn't know the DJ is a part of this whole thing. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because basically... Eric, we in Rock and Roll was out already. Huh?

No, they ain't... They didn't... They ain't get it, man. Like he said, man, Division... But these labels were trying to divide and conquer anyway. I'm saying because Eric being right already Ain't get it man dang it like he said man the labels are trying to divide and conquer any that's what they've been doing That's like I said, no Right From uptown right now, A whole bunch of shit, right? Oh, wow. Nah, but they wasn't like, yo, kid, the way the game was,

was like, right? It's like, yo, kid, you want to be Mr. Cheeks? Or you want to be Mr. Cheeks and the Lost Boys and shit like that? That's how they approached me with this shit.

Yeah, they came with him. You know what I'm saying? Wow. I was the nigga out there running around doing all that. That's how they approached me with this shit. Yeah, they came with him. Wow. I was in the car running around doing all that. And this was before, this was before Uptown.

Way before Uptown. This is like, y'all don't even understand. We was here a real long time. Like I said, it took 10 years for the song to come out. Not that we was here.

It took four, four, five extra years that we actually came out with the shit. Bad Boy? Yeah, could have been on.

We would have been the first artists of Bad Boy. I'm in the living room. We in the living room like this. Jersey, Galaxy Tower. Oh, shit. I live in the living room We in the living room Like this Jersey Galaxy Tower Oh shit

I live in the galaxy I mean When it comes to Living in the galaxy Haven't we all You live in the galaxy now West New York You still live there

Nah nah We still live there Shouts to George Shouts to George Front door The galaxy The galaxy apartments In West New York

Of course New Jersey Come on yeah I meant to tell you I've seen George again So you know tunnel. I've seen George again. So you know the era. I've seen George again. I know the building.

Going to the gym. I see you at the movie theater soon. Oh, that's right. I'm sure. Oh, my God. God, you know, I do remember you all. Come on, come on. We were wilding out for a minute, right?

Guess what? Yo. George was with me. Say what? George was with me. George was with me. Say what? George was with me. George was with you. George was with me. Even though that was a lawyer and doctor's building.

Correct. George was with me. Hell yeah. Wow. And remembered us being Galaxy. George was hard. Bad Boy would have started basically in the Galaxy Tower. Wow.

Cheeks had a motherfucking joint. They wanted Cheeks to be Mr. Cheeks. They wanted Cheeks to be the Lost Boys by himself. Not by himself, but it would have been me and Cheeks. Right. Without Ty and Lou. Right. But Cheeks said, nah.

Nah. Should have been Mr. Cheeks. They had shirts and everything. Yeah. Got a book of rhymes. It would have been Mr. Cheeks and the Lost Boys. Got a book of rhymes. It would've been Mr. Cheeks and the Lost Boys. Got a book of rhymes that are thicker than a body. Yeah, we've been going through so much all our lives.

We've been going through this shit all the way we are. Nigga, how I'm going to be? Mr. Cheeks and the Lost Boys, nigga. L-O-S-T-B-O-I-C. B-O-I-C. You dig? That's right. He refused that.

Yeah, it would've been. Make some noise for that. That's honorable. Thank you. All day. It would have been that situation. Puff needed one person. He couldn't do a group.

But it turned out, Cheeks said, nah, I got a crew. That's a fact. So you're saying that... So... This is when Bad Boy started. So you're saying that. So. Because before. This is when bad boys started. So you're saying there was a possibility that Cheeks could have been. The first.

Not Craig Mack. Not. Yeah, it would have been. It might have been. False voice. He would have been. Craig Mack was first. Bad boys.

Me and Cheeks would have been bad boys. Without Lou and Ty. Right. No disrespect. But Cheeks is like, nah, I got a crew. I remember the conversation vividly. I remember a bunch of conversations vividly.

That's why I say we've been here for a while. Hell yeah. It was just that he said nah. And I, just to clear up some of the stuff that he said before when it was with russell and them def jam yeah def jam had a roster foxy dmx all these other cats my man we ready to go we got we ready to go it ain't no wait nigga we the hottest thing in Queens. Yeah. Regardless of a record deal.

We was the hottest thing. Can I just interject on that real quick? Just one second. Go ahead. Before they got signed, they mixtaped the red tape. I'm a lost boy historian. Now I got straight facts. I got historians.

That's a seed. You feel me? But long story short, they had the red tape. The red tape. It's crazy. I want to say, correct me if I'm wrong, about 85% of the red tape was illegal drug money. And the other cuts that didn't make the illegal drug money, they either showed up on TV shows, movies, or other shit. Correct me if I'm wrong.

You're on the right path, young man. That's all I wanted to say. You can get back to your story, but it was the mixtape, the red tape, of all this legal drug money. Like, the B-side cuts, like, Keep It Real, all that shit's like Rene, the original Rene, shit like all that shit was on the red tape. Party joint.

Party joint. You feel me? You see the party and bullshit I could see the correlation the party joint the party and bullshit like anything they was good That was the arrow the anthems you found me. So yeah, I was a so When we was young Going to sunrise. Oh Y'all don't understand. No, don't tell them. I won't preach. I won't preach.

Don't tell them. Which y'all don't understand. Right. When we started off going from the block parties, from the basement parties, the block parties, and all that moving up and down. Cambridge Heights. When we started going to different backyard parties, when people thought, oh, Lost Boys here.

Is this going to be a fight? Or are we going to have a good time? When the young guns came, oh, it's going to be a shootout. It's going to be something. It's going to be a fight. It's going to be a... Somebody ain't going home. Type shit.

Till we bring the parties and make the motherfuckers go, yeah. Wherever they go, we going. I don't give a fuck if it's the movie theaters, the Jamaica Ave or whatever. The more we brought, the more happiness we brought to people, even though, yeah, we did dirt. We're young. We did dirt. But when we came to a party, when we had to battle motherfuckers, we true elements of hip hop. When you're talking about dancing dancing we get on the mic

rock the party and he had onyx he had Fred Roe Fred Roe was it yes I love brother Fred Roe was in the place you had Kwame Kwame Kwame had a dancing crew Kwarme always got the girl. We had shit. Kwarme always got the girl. We need him on big time. We used to go to Studio 54. I want Kwarme on it. We used to go to Studio 54, dance. Tell him. And the whole shit. Come back to the hood, party, rock the mic, dance, battle niggas.

Kwarme had, like I said, Kwarme had a chick. He had a gay dude. What's his name? Polka Dot? I ain't going to say anything. That nigga was like that. And we had to battle girls and a guy. And everybody doing the shit.

We getting our little dance sets from the Puerto Ricans. Our brothers. Shout out to Puerto Ricans, man. We getting our shit getting together. And we started doing our own. When the bus stops started coming out, we started doing our own little bus stop. We had clubs doing the Lost little bus stop. We had clubs doing the Lost Boy bus stop, Wendy Williams.

The Lost Boy, when he brought her to his wedding, the bus stop. Wendy Williams came to your wedding? Wendy Williams at my wedding? That's the hottest thing in the fucking world. Andy Hamilton sung at my wedding. That was crazy.

When we came, a movement came with us. You got a legal drug dealer's phone. I got no time. A movement came with us. Why did Andy Hamilton have a wedding like that?

A movement came with us. When we came, a movement came with us. Hell yeah. In any aspect. I don't care. Like I said, we went to Japan.

It was love. It was a million motherfucking lost boys. Any state, any country we went to, it was a million lost boys. That's what confuses me. Like I said, I don't want to go back. Music makes me high.

Soul Train. What's his name? Come on, Donnie. Don. Soul Train. That's his name? Come on, Donnie. Don. Cornelius. Soul Train. That's my man. R.I.P. Don. A Chinese dude and a black dude.

Oh, my God. He rode that bus, that bullet, to the motherfucking Soul Train joint. He got a Soul Train radio station. Niggas was getting it in. They was getting it in They was getting it in Man I'm telling you When I say we came And the motherfuckers was following

Niggas was Everywhere we went We couldn't believe that We had that many followers Like if it was followers But we had that many LBs Around us God damn close

Still got the LBs That's a fact So I'm going to ask Another Because That was one question. The last question was legal drug money. So then my next question is love, peace, and happiness.

That's my favorite video. It's a great record. Salacia. Appreciate that. Peace. Salacia. Peace. Salacia.

Dope record. Dope record. Goddamn, what is that? Just growing out here and smoking weed. I remember when you was talking about, yo, man, I like that Slick Rick joint. Facts. We was in the studio.

Hell yeah. I was trying to tell my cousin. Shout out to one of the greatest storytellers, Slick Rick ever. Yeah. Dope, dope, dope. I was trying to tell my cousin, rest in peace, whatever.

One, three, one, production. Let's do this just joint. A shout out. Because Cheeks like that song. Because he heard it. Sex, rest in peace, Mr. Sex. Mr. Sell, yeah. Sex jumped on it before I got a chance to.

And we did the video in Ocho Rios. And I'm talking about when I got off the plane, these niggas left me. They went to the bus and shit. That's my favorite video. My father, y'all all know,

but my father, he was having the time of his life. Jamaican joints was on him like. Hell yeah. He meant, listen.

Chaz and Joe Botello. We was roommates. So, what he seen, Rasheem, we was like this. Cheeks and Lou was together. Me and Ty was together. So, what he seen in our stream, we was like this. Cheeks and Lou was together. Me and Ty was together. That's like

we bonded more, they bonded more. You know what I'm saying? That's my roommate. Queens niggas is in where the beautiful, you look at the, you know how you look? You already know, kid. Anyway, you live out here. But you can look through the water, nigga,

and look at fish, nigga, floating. Hell yeah. What the fuck? We from Queens, nigga. Where the fuck is the fish doing in my toes, nigga? But look, but look. This is crazy shit. This is crazy.

Let's get back to it. When the niggas... Y'all get me so hyped. I'm so mad. I just said, you know the beat already. I know, I know. They got off the plane and went to the bus so high. I'm going to be mad. I was going to say, you know the video, right? I know, I know. They got off the plane and went to the bus. Yeah.

I'm lagging. I'm trying to see what's going on. Almost got left. Getting off the motherfucking bus. Dude came to me and said, you want to buy this long? I'm like, what the fuck is he talking about? Same way you looking right now. I was looking at him like that.

What the fuck? What the fuck? You want to buy this long? I him like, what the fuck? What the fuck? You want to bud this long? I'm like, I don't know what the fuck he talking about. What does he think? You want to bud this long? So he said,

you smoke weed? I said, yeah. He said, you want a bud this long? I said, oh shit. Weird. Weird.

He in the van. Him and his boys in the van. The Jamaicans had that little small minivan with the door slide open and shit like that. His guys was living like this. I said, oh, shit. He had one of them Scooby-Doo vans. So I was like,

oh, shit. I said, how much? He said, $20. I said, oh, shit. He had one of them Scooby-Doo bags. So I was like, oh, shit. I said, how much? He said, $20. I said, hold on. Get it to these niggas. Yo, this nigga's talking about a Bud this long. A Bud this long. They was like, what the fuck you talking about? I said, now, Jamaican dude, just now asked me for a Bud this long.

The niggas was like, man, we got weed. They got a box of Dutch Master once. Don't tell me it's from Princess Black. I don't know, man. It could have been. You don't remember Princess Black? You don't know Princess Black. Oh, you don't know Princess Black.

I went to a bar that does a bar. Niggas had a Dutch master box. They said, we got enough weed to get us in this 9 and 3rd. Man, I went back to the dude and said, nah, they don't want it. I should have got it. I don't know what the fuck a blood in the muck, man. For $20. For $20.

I don't give a fuck what kind of weed. It's either good or great. I don't give a fuck what kind of weed it was's either good or great. I don't give a fuck what kind of weed it was. Back then, you know the weed was getting you high. So I was like, nah, we ain't want to do it, man. Nah, I should have just got it. We got halfway through the trip and smoked about half the blunts come in the box.

We done smoked half the blunts. It was like, damn, we need some more weed. We done ran out of weed. Okay, okay. Man, that shit was crazy. The question was, love, peace, and happiness. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm going to give you guys some more. You have the flag on the album cover. I can't. But then Snoop made an album like that years later. Are you saying that? Oh, he's Mad Lion? No, not Mad Lion. Snoop Nye. Snoop made an album like that years later. Right. Are you saying that? Oh, he's Mad Lion? Man, no, not Mad Lion. Snoop Lion.

Snoop Lion, yeah. Snoop Lion. Are y'all saying that? Did we say anything? We didn't say nothing. That's the first time I heard that. Bro, what you say? Let him talk.

Let's hear where this is going. What did we say? We didn't say a mother fucker. I got to relax? Go ahead. I can relax. You say it. You say it.

Y'all say it. Talk that talk. I didn't say no because y'all didn't say anything'm the motherfucker. Go ahead. I can relax. You say it. Y'all say it. Talk that talk. I didn't say no. Y'all didn't say anything. He's saying it. No, no, no. The way y'all saying it is, did y'all make that whole album?

Because my question was Love, Peace, and Happiness, right? Yeah, yeah. Happiness. Happiness. You should have not, you had. Are y'all saying y'all made that whole album in Jamaica?

Or no? Or you just made a couple of... The video. He wanted to do that song. He liked that song. He liked that music. Right. I like the track,

Hey Young Girl. Hey Boy. The World. Who suggested y'all go to Jamaica and shoot that video? Hold on, hold on. I got that in my notes. Hold on. Cheers, cheers, cheers.

Let me be a good journalist. Hey, y'all don't have to go back. Y'all can go. Hey, baby. Now we Queens niggas. Old niggas. Old bladder niggas. Get your bladder together.

We holding it in there at the racket. Get a bottle. This is real drinkers. We going quick. That's right. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I got this in my notes. Wait a minute.

A bottle of a plastic bag. Yeah, yeah. A simple, hey, young world. Yes. Diego, yeah. Your symbol, Hey Young World. Yes. Diego. Diego. What the fuck? What record is this?

That's Hey Young World. I mean. What record is it that your sample Hey Young World? Just look at what you got. That's Love, Peace, and Happiness. That's the title track. Yeah, that's Love, Peace, and Happiness. That's the reason why I'm confused. I've been telling you the whole shit.

I'm sitting here asking you about a question that I already asked. Yeah, that's Love, Peace, and Nothing. That's the reason why I'm confused. I'm going to tell you the whole shit. I'm sitting there asking you about a question that I already asked. Yeah, we did that. We did that. All right, there you are. And we did that on Entre Rios, the falls and all that stuff. We learned how to smoke weed through an apple. Fucking carrot.

Carrot. Damn. Slossy, y'all, rest in peace. His jaw. I say that a lot in y'all records too. Slossy. I. At least Slossy, right? Yeah, that was our homeboy. It was our homie. Hell yeah. Selassie, y'all rest in peace. His job lost the fiery eye.

That was Selassie, right? Yeah, that was our homeboy. It was our homie. Not the... You went too far. Hold on, guys. You went too far. He had a homie named... Come on, Brad.

It was a homie from uptown. His name was Selassie. You got the mollies. You got the Selassies, too? No, no, no, no. I went too far. Your cousin knows you. Your cousin knows you. Your cousin knows you. Your cousin knows you. Your cousin knows you. You got the mollies. You got the salacis too? No, no, no, no. 8th Avenue. I went to malls. Where you been living?

I don't remember. 8th Avenue and 113th Street. You go there, order that shit. Salacia, open the door, give you a week. You've never been there? In the dark. In the dark. In the car.

You remember? In the cavern. I've been there. I was in the car. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there.

I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there.

I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there.

I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there.

I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I've been there. I was in the cavern. He called himself Selassie. Yeah, I did. The man was called Selassie.

I'm a warrior. He was Selassie. I'm a warrior. Yeah, yeah. Ooh, ooh, ooh. See you later. Yeah, Selassie. I'm a warrior.

By the way, let's just be clear. Selassie, I'm a warrior. No one can fuck with Mr. G's sound effects. His sound effects is real. I'm trying to say this. Chink, chink, chink. Bonk, bonk, bonk. E-Z-Z-Z. Aye sound effects is real. I'm trying to say, man. That nigga say, ching, ching, ching, bong, bong, bong, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee.

Aye, aye, aye. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying, man. Lord, you understand anything I said, though, right? You make a left right there and go over there

to the right. Yeah, Selassie, our warrior, that's our brother. Yes, sir. And Mojo. And Mojo. Mojo locked up with me. Ah, yo, you know who's locked up with this nigga? Everybody.

Uh, what's his name? What's his name? Jason, oh, you want me to say? Uh, Ja Rule was locked up with you. Ja, that's my man. Ja came to the town. You know that? Came to the town. You seen that picture before? You and Ja? that's my man. Ja came to the town. I went to the town.

You and Ja? Ja was like this. Ja came to the joint. You know, he's from Queens. We know, see the thing about the feds? Where you at? Raybrook. That's all federal. We're like two hours away from Canada.

But Ja came through. He came from the state. Okay. Gray outfits. Up there, we're like two hours away from Canada. But Jack came through. He came from the state. He came up there. I hit him with the kitty. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Nah, that's a bag. That's like, you get some food.

You get some sneakers. Sweats and stuff like that. Toothpaste. You know. Okay. Daily things and shit like that. A bag of weed. Nah. You know what I'm saying? It's like a bag of weed you give, you know. Okay. Your daily things and shit like that. A bag of weed. Nah.

You know what I'm saying? It's like a bag of weed you give me if I was. Exactly, exactly. You right. That's what I'm saying. So, I hit him with the joint, because you know, I was like, you know, I'm me. I ain't go front, I was a plumber.

I get around. That job right there got me. Around. I get around. That job right there got me around. Everywhere. Around. That's right. It got me everything. Now, now, now. But, yeah, Ja came through, hit him with the kitty, shit like that.

That's right. Walked track a couple of times, you know, pitching. We did a lot of shit. You know what I'm saying? We did a couple of things through the time that he was there. You know what I'm saying? You know, n of things during the time that he was there. You know what I'm saying? Right. You know,

niggas was about, that's my man, but niggas was about to get him because he was actually staying at, he was supposed to have been next to us. Like, we Mohawk A,

he's Mohawk B. But they had him in the, warden's office, they had him in the camp. And they was at, he was working for the warden. Warden Flowers and shit like that. Tell him I said this.

You said it. I got you. We're on drink change. But he was there. He did his little one-twos and shit. Even though the homies upstate and shit, Rochester and shit, got niggas as funny.

I can tell you things, man. I don't know a fucking thing. Nah, don't tell them too much, man. But, man, they had them on some funny-ass missions. Yeah. And I ain't like that shit. Yeah. I pulled them up and shit. One time I caught his ass.

Me. Like, yo, you can't have tomatoes and onions. All right, we good. Next question. You know what I'm saying? I don't know. I feel like... It's a thing in jail that you can get locked up.

Even though you locked up, you can get locked up. You know what I'm saying? Go in the shoe and shit like that. Be in the bed. And they had a nigga on a dummy mission. What the fuck was y'all talking about? Nigga was trying to make spaghetti. What the fuck was y'all doing?

Y'all can't have the homie... Not my homie. Y'all can't have him bringing illegal shit across the homie, y'all can't have him bringing illegal shit across the compound. Come on, kid. Let's go to the next question, kid. That's what I want. I love you. I miss you, man.

I love you, man. It's the realest shit, you know what I'm saying? L's for life. For real. Hey. What? What? Yo. I love my cousin. Speed cousin. It's a few thousand. I see you very speechless.

Nor is there a talking guy. He will talk you under the table, but he was not ready. Come on. Can I have a toast? I didn't do a toast. This is a good one. I'm going to tell you real. Can I get a toast? Can I get a toast? I didn't do it. I didn't do it. This was a good one. That's a fact.

I'm going to tell you the real shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to tell you the real shit that niggas that being locked up be going through. And me, I was never geographical. Meaning? I wasn't saying I'm just strictly New York. Right. I traveled the world. That's right. So I've been in Boston. I'm just strictly New York. Right. I traveled the world.

That's right. So I've been in Boston. Yeah. I've been in North Carolina. South Carolina, down south. Good. The Midwest. Good.

Such and such. Good. So cats couldn't put me in a particular bowl. Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Because I ain't going to say a cup or something smaller. Because the federal system is huge.

You're talking about the world. You're talking about, not the world, but you're talking about the state. You might be in there with a nigga from Ukraine. Right. No, but they got international, yeah. And we actually get along with any and everybody. I became, the last part of my bed in Raybrook, the number one guy. Due to the fact that I was a plumber, I could move around.

I could talk to people. When Rest in Peace team passed, he left the jail, I became the number one guy. And not just the number one guy for New York, the pound. Now, you trying to control 1,300, 1,400 people, you got the responsibility. The Mexicans and the blacks is fighting and stuff like that. Go ahead, nigga. Different people, D.C., Philly,

you got different states and shit like that that don't get along. And when they fight locks down the whole compound now niggas in misery for Extra 13 14 15 62 weeks or whatever such as such Now you got to be the man that controls all that Some people that ain't out in in circle in that cypher don't know that so when people that ain't out in that circle, in that cypher, don't know that.

So, when dudes bring problems to you, you got to go fix them. That's the number one. I became the number one after my man came, not just because he left New York open. It wasn't open.

I was next in charge because I was there for 11 years in Rayburg at that time. I was next in charge because I was there for 11 years in Rayburg at that time. I was a person that dealt with the Mexicans because my tattooist was a Mexican. Yes. Most of my shit. He was a head Mexican and he was telling the next Mexican that came in charge this is who it is, he's introducing

me. So now it's like you're telling him that, that he's asking me, who are you representing? New York or New York? I mean New York or the blacks? I had the choice.

I was like, Philly be wildin', they be chillin'. They be tellin'. Everybody knew Philadelphia was Philadelphia. But I got homies and shit all over the place. And everybody ain't that type of time. Everybody ain't tellin' in Philly.

But then the D.C. D.C. be, uh, you got funny ways and stuff like that. But I got homies in D.C. I got good Moors. That's in D.C. Good homies. Youngins. So when it comes down to that, you got to make the decision.

I just said, man, I'm New York. Fuck that. But it came down to the fact that now I'm a plumber. The head plumber. I'm the commissioner to the fact that now I'm a plumber, the head plumber. I'm the commissioner of the baseball. I had the Grand Chic of the Moors. I had a bunch of hats. awareness of who I am and how I want to perceive life changes the fact of what I was when I came in, yeah, I was in the streets, I did this, that, and the third, boom, I'm here, so now I changed up

all my ways, now, when there's facts and all this shit comes to me, now I got to do that for New York. Now I got New York, not New York, but just black folks, different states, clashing. I got to break these things up. Not just these guys that's telling me. I got CEOs telling me, yo, something going on in Niagara B. Something going on in Genesee A. You better go see what's up. I got designated to be the dude

that's in charge of the blacks. Then it came to a charge of the Mexicans saying, yo, the blacks stole my fiend book. Fiend books is porn books and shit like that. Oh, shit titties. Important. Life-th titties. Important. Life-threatening. They caught me one time at the time.

They caught me. The black Hefner. The black Hugh Hefner. Hugh Hefner. Shit, I got locked up for this shit. Even though there was a war going on without me. I said, I ain't going to give enough motherfuckers the books and shut the fuck up. You had all the books in there.

You make money. I can rent them. So basically, one thing led to another. Not just the blacks. I became the head of the pound. Now if the COs had beef or they had some shit,

now they came to me. It was just given to me. Not that I asked for the shit like that. It was like, you know, you've been here so long. You know the youngins. You know the oldest. You know the white dudes. The head of those. You know the Aryans too? The Aryans.

You knew the Aryans. Nigga, I got mafia brothers. I knew Aryans. I knew Aryans' heads. Even though they couldn't get along, but you have to. Raybrook is a high security joint. That's like number one of in high security.

Wow. Good, Smeet. So I'm not just saying from the little man up to the big man. They come to me because I'm a problem solver. And niggas was like, yo, do this. Can you do this? Can you talk to them? Can you talk to them? I scratched so many situations that

when niggas used to come out with knives and shit like that to the pound. I'm talking about knives from the kitchen. To cats could come outside and you have a party at this table, that table, that table. Now everybody can come outside without no problems. You know what I'm saying? From a wild situation to, man, we chilling.

We chilling. The COs didn't really like that. I know them head CO was like, I see what you're doing. I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you're doing. They called my name. They used to call me Mr. Blackwell. I know that nigga. Now they,

listen, when the staff, the head staff left, they was calling me Spick Nice over the loudspeaker. Fags. To the loudspeaker. Fags. To come to the booth. That's all. Then when they come to the booth or some shit like that, they tell me, yo, such and such is having a problem over here and there.

Yo, such and such, or a homie, a little homie comes with a, he got a, I don't know how to get rid of a, niggas be scared. How do I get rid of this Cincinnati 3rd? I take it and give it away blah blah. You know what I'm saying? Not give it away but dispose of shit. Because you don't want, you the less it gnaws, the less violence.

Not all the time, but a lot of times. So I diffuse a lot of situations and stuff like that. Until I got my ankle broken. The motherfucker said, ah, we don't need you no more.

And kicked me off the compound. Because I broke my ankle. How you got your ankle broken? The administration. I slipped on some slipped on some black ice. In the morning

going to work. Pulled a KD? Yeah. But things happen. No doubt. And they didn't want you can see the system Wants

Freaks Yeah They want that shit But that's the same thing With the With like the music industry now Like Cheek said earlier Like

It's so much Ill shit And so much dope talent That's around us You feel me But We get It get overshadowed by

The negative shit Who got ops Who got beef Who getting killed You feel me That's it get overshadowed by the negative shit. Who got ops? Who got beef? Who getting killed? You feel me? That's all we see when we turn on our media systems. You feel me? Whether it's social media, news.

It's so much negative shit. You feel me? And the ill shit about the Lost Boys. And South Jamaica Queens, they so embedded because of the way we operate as a family, as a unit. You feel me? So for him to go through what he went through, you feel me, and to overcome it and to be able to control situations and to be able to mentally be through that shit, you feel me? Not only is it a blessing, you feel me, it's a testimony that if we organize, you feel me? And that's the one shit that lost shit, you feel me? Not only is it a blessing, you feel me, it's a testimony that if we organize,

you feel me? And that's the lost, that's the one shit that lost boys like, you feel me? That was our word. That was our shit. You feel me?

Organize. Once you say organize, that means stop doing what you're doing and find the nearest lost boy and tally up. Right. You feel me? Wow.

And we didn't teach him that. He knew that. But like I said, I'm a historian, bro. This shit is not on me. That was our walk home and everything. That was our walk home

and that was our motherfucking chill the fuck out. Organized. Organized. Since the 80s. You feel me? So when you organize, especially us as blacks,

us as Latinos, when we organize and we come together and we build structure amongst us, fuck what's going on. The world's already built against us.

You feel me? Our eyes is already called off. You feel me? So when we organize and we come together, we can build structure and they feel like

they got to come to us because they already know the power that we got when we organize. When we organize. If we organize. And the funny thing about that,

the funny thing that, not funny thing, not to cut you off, but to add on to what you said, when we was doing what we was doing and organized came to a fact, listen, I had an Apple computer like in my mom's, not me, my mom, my parents.

I had an Apple computer. Remember that, when we had that chat? like in my mom's in them, not me, my mom, my parents. I had an Apple computer. Remember that, when we had that chat? If you ain't a lost boy, you better go home. That's right. We had that shit. And this is like when Apple really first came out. The shit was, that shit took my like four or five hours for that banner.

For a banner. If you ain't a lost boy you better go home with two skulls whatever that shit is. Skulls and shit like that. We've been saying shit to organize

people. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Because like we was doing it when we was doing it when Yeah Because Like we was doing it When we was doing it When me and Cheeks was doing it With the black man

If you heard them songs man You'd be like yo Them niggas got something Tally up It's the lost boy crew For real And this was since the 80s Yes

I mean John Adams Taught us a lot Oh yeah Of really sticking together We went through Howard Beach Beefs and all that shit I don't know if the world knew about that shit If you check on the internet

Howard Beach We was in the mix of that Because that was our school That these people came from And we was Always on some Putting people together Even though it was a black

And a black Or a black thing and a white thing, and our school was in the middle of the black and the white section. Mm-hmm. John Adams was a historical school, basically. Yeah, I know. But everything that came out of it was rapper. You got Horse.

There was Horse from Poochie Wally. Poochie Wally. Yeah. Brave Horse. I need you to smack me around all day. He told me when he started flogging with Heather B and shit like that. Yeah. Braveheart. Jump over to that. I need you to smack nigga around all day. He told me when he started flogging with Heather B

and shit like that. Hell yeah. That's right. Remember the Ricky Lake show and all that shit? Come on, man. Chill, man. Listen, Onyx.

All the John Adams. Listen, I remember Onyx recipes DS. I remember when DS came to the boulevard and came up with boulevard. Onyx. And came up with Onyx.

Yeah. We would call them niggas the country boys. Hell yeah. You don't understand who they were before they became bullheads. Don't be going over there. Them niggas had carpet in the hair, this weed and this shit. Those are brothers. When I say those are brothers, when I say my basement was someplace that

everybody knew where it was. You started in my basement. We practicing dancing as I'm playing music. We practicing dance moves so we can go to Studios 54 or go to the motherfucking the next club. Ballet.

Or what's the shit on across the library? Mysteries and all that shit. Remember the garage? All that shit. When we was doing our dances, practicing, Onyx was over here

in the next corner over here. My basement was like kind of big, you know. But they was over here. We was over here practicing this 9th and 3rd. But we all know we had to go against over here Practicing this 9th and 3rd But we all know We had to go against

The other crews And this 9th and 3rd But what I'm saying is Who was the other crews At the time? Like I said Hit Kwame's shit

I wanted to mess with One of Kwame's girls Oh You got this man In his bag That That Only you chick

The light skin chick The tall chick From Hillcrest. Yeah, yeah. Only you. South Hillcrest. I got her whole girl. I made that wifey. But basically.

You got to shut up. But like I'm saying, we went through a lot. We did a lot. We seen a lot. And we made a lot happen. After the fact that we watched everybody doing what they was doing. And we made it

extra. We brought that into us, but we made that extra. So motherfuckers is like, I feel everything y'all motherfuckers is saying. You couldn't deny what we doing. Everything you did, even if you danced, the new dance steps, the bogle and all the Jamaican

dances, we was in every fucking thing. Big nights. We had clubs and everything. Anything that could be done, we've done it. Since we was teenagers. Since the 80s. We've done everything in rap since it was...

Since... Since Hawaiian Suits. For real. Jones Beach. Now, now, now. Fela. Jones Beach. You say Jones Beach. You already know about Jones Beach, cuz.

I was tagged on the train. We been going after 24. So it was like that one aspect, one aspect of hip hop that we didn't conquer. You know what I'm saying? And that's why on some real like and to piggyback off what we've seen like every element of hip hop even till like it's like the lost boy story is a reflection of the good the bad and the ugly of what hip hop everything has to offer you feel me think about like even like you got artists like he said it it was 10 years of of grind of grudge before y'all even got introduced to

the lost boys that y'all fell in love with you feel me so the the the and they're now now to know them is to know that they some real street dudes. They just as hood as anybody that you know. They get in love from the gangsters, RP Black, Just. You feel me? We got real writers really acknowledging them from the street aspect of what hip hop is. And what it takes to get into the game. You feel me? They get into the game.

Their first album, they got about four or five singles that slapped. Like you said, we got videos for it. And when it was a two-video game. You feel me? We go into the tragedy story. Like even down to Freaky Todd. RP, my pops. You feel me?

This is a story for y'all era. Like you said, you felt that when Freaky Todd, my pops, passed away. You feel me? Now, we fast forward into, we got the Nipsey's, we got the Takeo's, you feel me? So, but in y'all era, it wasn't broadcast. Y'all going back to y'all, like, they broadcast when you go back to your hood and something

bad happens to you, you feel me? They're not broadcast until you go back to your hood and there's a little shorty there that you inspiring to be better, that you endorsing to be better. The basketball nigga that you telling, yo, go to school, stay out the street. The next rapper that you saying, yo, go in the studio, yo,

here go a couple dollars, go get in the booth. My pops. His pops. My pops. His pops. And one, three, four. In South Jamaica, Queens. I'm from Far Rockaway.

I was born in Far Rockaway, you feel me? My mom's is from Far Rockaway. South Supreme. My pops is a I was born in Far Rock You feel me? My mom's from Far Rock My pops is a Southside nigga You feel me? 1-3-4 Garbu They affect from In South Jamaica, Queens It wasn't just

Yo, they stars The people was able to touch them You know how many people Yo, I can't get my bills paid today And it's like Yo, fuck it Your bills is $500 You is $500?

You need $500 to get this taken care of? All right, take that, and I'm going to go do the fuck I'm doing. Oh, your shorty need some supplies for school? Your shorty need some... You already see they had the vision for the Lost Boy attire. The brand was already there. You feel me? That's right.

But when the tragedy strike, you affect more than just the person that you already there. You feel me? That's right. But when the tragedy strike, you affect more than just the person that you took away. You feel me? You take away from their family. You take away from their kids. You take away from the impact that they really have in the environment. Shout out to the Inspirate

because a lot of the cats from my era, the C's that came up from under them, the one, three, four-year-olds, you feel me? The one, three, fours, the seeds that came up from under them. 30-year-olds. The 134-year-olds. You feel me? The 134s. The Rockaway and fucking Linden. The Van Wick. You feel me?

The Far Rocks. The Jamaica Avs. The kids that came up in that era. The Hollis. The Queens. And even across the world. You feel me? Because Queens took it across the world.

Right. But those seeds that they planted. We represent and put Queens on the world. Those seeds that they planted... We were representing putting queens on the mat. You feel me? To have loose brains... I just want to say this, though. Those seeds, the next generation

that they put back in, they actually put in. A lot of niggas get lit and don't put in. They put in before they got lit. A lot of niggas get lit and don't put in. You feel me? They put in before they got lit. And that's what the Lost Boy, that's why it's LB fam. If you fam,

once you see us do this, once you see us do this, and you locked in, you fam. I could go here, I could go there, I got somebody that's going to be like, do it again, do it again. I need a flight from there. I'm at the airport over here in Texas. Somebody coming to pick me up.

They're going to take me to get some food. They're going to check me. But they planted that seed. They got one of the flyest handshakes. I mean, I see it. I see it around the world. You're the handshake, baby. I see it around the world.

I see it in basketball games. I see it everywhere. Let. I see it in basketball games. I see it in basketball games. I see it everywhere. Let me get to my point. My major point is because when... Teach me it. I'm never going to learn.

I got it. That's just the short version. That's it. Come on, bro. Lost more than short in life. on, bro. Lost more than your life. Hey, yo. Talk to him. When Nipsey died, you feel me?

When Nipsey, when we lost Nipsey, like, I literally, like, that shit hurt me. You feel me? Because those type of situations always bring me back to this situation. You feel me? Because my pops was a nigga that was endorsing niggas, yo, go to school. Oh, yo, you a young hustler? Y'all niggas is from an era where niggas was outside at 10, 11 years old

with packs in they pocket, you feel me? When y'all was outside, when niggas was outside 12, 13 years old with the ham on them, you feel me? My pops was, these niggas was catching niggas. My pops would go, my pops lived on 134 and God, bro. That's why he big it up. All-star. Right on 134 and God, bro.

All-star. It's a fucking elementary school and it's a fucking middle school. He catching all the niggas going to school. A world-old nigga, you selling drugs? Come here. Give me your pack. Nah, go to school. Nah, I'm going to fuck with you, but I fuck with you. Yo, here go $20 drugs? Come here. Give me your pack. Nah, go to school. Nah, but you know what?

I'm going to fuck with you, but I fuck with you. Yo, here go $20, $40, $30. Go to school, my nigga, because whoever gave you this shit ain't really looking out for you. Right. You feel me? But if you really want a nigga to look out for you, when I see you, nigga, if this is what you want, my nigga, here go. Friday, when you come through, go, nigga, you got $100 on your test. We're going to go to the Ave.

You go get you and your mans. We're going to go to, we're going to get whatever y'all want. Sneakers. Y'all want car hearts. Y'all want to do what we're doing. Real nigga shit. In the dollar van. In the dollar van.

On the dollar van. In the dollar van. On the dollar van. I had to get to my grandmother's house. I had to go to Posse Boulevard. You better know. In the dollar van. It's all black.

All white dollar van. It's just like that. I mean, we... We... That's right. It's just like that. I mean, we always, basically, unconsciously, we always was the uplifting of us. Of us, my nigga. Even unconsciously, we always uplifting us. You know what I'm saying?

But that's why the energy is undeniable. So when the music do when when the DJ play this shit today it's like yo the shit is refreshing because you can connect we gotta be on that and everybody gonna jack to it you feel me everybody gonna gravitate to everybody gonna get up off their fucking seat and everybody gonna dance your mom's gonna dance you gonna dance grandma grandma gonna dance we're gonna have a good time. You feel me? So if you're not listening, because I don't know about you,

you're not listening. I know y'all niggas not listening to all the lyrics that's coming out today. You're talking about the young niggas. Yeah. You feel me? The new music, y'all probably like the beat. It's probably,

whatever catches your attention, you feel me? Talk that talk. In the same token, whatever it is that gravitates you to that, that's that. But when it comes to our music, that era that y'all fucking, that's why I put it in my music. I'm not, I come from the same shit.

You feel me? I come from the same shit. You know my video that, it's probably a little nothing. Nah, go ahead. I don't give a shit. You know my video I did of me and my crazy world. That's that little nigga dancing right there. That's a fact. That's him right there

in the middle dancing with us around the bottle. And that's not a sample from Naughty by Nature neither, right? Nah, that's Bing Dawg. And that's crazy that,

just to say, not saying, but our era of growing seeds, all our seeds is right. You don't see, you might see them here and there, you're going to see them here and there and it's not, but You don't see You might see them here and there You gonna see them here and there

But they don't be If they get into this world This realm They don't be promoting that bullshit That's just going on nowadays They're older You talking about 30 year olds Compared to 20 year olds

Our seeds is gonna motherfucking produce Better seeds Whoever produced them seeds is going to motherfucking produce better seeds. Right. Whoever produced them seeds that's going on now, they ain't produced no good seeds. They ain't produced no good seeds. You want to know

some little shit, too? I ain't going to be holding nothing back. They ain't produced no good seeds. It's deference. You feel me? You got to respect those that come before you.

You feel me? Right. If my OGs could pay homage to cats that came before them and called them big bros and da-da-da-da, why can't I sit back and be humble enough to take in with the OGs? You feel me? Because people get it confused with the generation who gets like, yo, the OGs got it one way. The young niggas got it one way. But, yo, it's a respect thing

you feel me because i could learn some shit he could learn some shit from me he learned shit from me every day hello he told me the other day i pulled up on him like yo kyle you know you you and low y'all inspire me y'all keep me on my toes i'm like me and low every day like yo man like yo i'm doing this i'm doing that oh yo how are going to plug in and get into what we're doing? You feel me? So it's like you got to, like you said, go back to the, what do you respect? Is it loyalty or is it respect?

I'm loyal to this man because not only did they, they paved the way for me. You feel me? They paved a way for me so I could get into anything. I don't even have to rap. I could go into A&R and I could be a manager. I could be a producer. I could be on whatever.

I could do whatever I want. Just off the strength of them opening up doors. You feel me? We produce good seeds. But in order for me to make shit happen, I got to be humble and I got to be respectful to the fact that they are allowing me to do this shit. You feel me? And niggas get it confused. And he's

doing it. Niggas think it's the money. Niggas think it's the money. Niggas think it's ah, ah. Fuck that because look at it now. It's young boys that's disrespecting the old heads and the old heads is being treated like young boys because they looking at how the young niggas is getting it.

You feel me? Why can't I learn from you? Why can't I humble myself now? Because y'all niggas been through a lot more shit already. Feel me? So whatever a nigga may step into, y'all niggas got some shit that... Let me just say, one thing I think is important about you guys being here

and showcasing something that isn't showcased enough is this is real legacy. That's a fact. Right. Having him here, everything you're saying, but who you represent, and not just representing your father, but being yourself at the same time.

Yeah, Lou got cash. Lou got cash. He doing... This is real legacy. This is real legacy. This is something to be proud of, regardless of if people hear about it or if it's played or it's not. This is something to be real proud of. This is something to be proud of, regardless of if people hear about it or if it's played or it's not.

This is something to be real proud of. This is real legacy. This is something that hopefully Drink Champs could help shine more light on it. But you didn't need us because y'all should be proud of it regardless. Thank you. We appreciate you. Appreciate it. We appreciate you.

You know what I'm saying? Because when we did, not knowing because we was young. But as we get older, we know better. And that's what this world is kind of lacking. Some of these young cats, they know what to do, but they like, nah, I ain't doing it. Some cats know what to do, and they doing like, nah, I ain't doing it. Some cats know what to do, and they're doing it. Right. But everybody's an individual. The times

have changed, the people have changed. You know what I'm saying? Mindsets have changed. So it's like trying to get you to convert to this, sometimes it takes a while. Right. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes it's not, it doesn't take a while. But constantly what I'm saying? Sometimes it's not, it doesn't take a while.

But constantly building with cats and stuff when you get the chance to see them and build and hug them, love is love. That's why we always,

our shit is love is love. Love is loyalty. Love is love. How long have you been home? About a good year and almost two years. Yeah. Nigga bailed me out of jail.

Hey, yo, that's the funniest shit. How I bailed him out of jail. That's crazy. I came home and bailed him out of jail. Who would have thought? Bullshit. He came home from 19, bailed him out of jail. Who would have thought? Bullshit. He came home from 19, bailed you out of jail. My man came home.

I said, let's go to my show. I got a show tonight. He following me. I follow him. He get pulled first. I get pulled over. He get pulled first. They just follow me or just OGP.

Boom. What are you doing? I'm going to his family. How they. What are you doing? Bong Bong. How'd they find a warrant, nigga? From 2001. This is when you first came to Miami. Yeah, nigga, what the fuck is going on here? This Sanchez, you motherfucker.

Now with him. My man, you already know. I let your kid go get me, kid. I mean, my man just came home home i just came home and i'm clean you better be clean you gotta clear it up though uh you know speak nice they say 70 that nigga's thing it says 90. yeah that the thing you talk about um they put me over what'd you say today they put me over i'm doing 99 i wasn't doing 100 I wasn't doing 100 99 ain't 100

Oh man This thing is the worst But the best And we had some We still doing our We still doing our hood shit I ain't going to say In a negative way

We still doing our hood shit You know what I'm saying Shout out to my PO Shout out Shout out I ain't doing nothing wrong. Shout out. Shout out to him. I ain't doing nothing wrong, but I'm making moves. He gives me the room to make moves. That's right.

He understands. It's just crazy that you can do such and such an amount of time, such and such an amount of time, and the government still give you probation. Right. Nigga, I just smoked a fucking bitch. Damn, I did 19, nigga. Okay, I didn't.

Okay, but I didn't. You still want to give a nigga three years, nigga. Okay, I didn't... Okay, but I didn't... You still want to give a nigga three years, five years, ten years. Get the fuck out of here. What did I do to you? 19 years, because that's when it was back then.

Because right now, I feel like everybody's getting... See, the thing is, I got sentenced to 37 years. Yeah, 37 years. God bless him. Get home. See, the thing was...

I got 37. They told me that if I don't cooperate, I'm going to do 40. If I don't cooperate, and you pushing me... What the fuck is that? You pushing me to cooperate. That's the thing that's crazy right now. What's going on and shit. Y'all already know what's going on.

Yeah. But if you ain't got strong will and you ain't got the heart. Yeah. You're going to fold. I'm like, hold on. How you forgive me to talk bad about the people that I grew up with? To you, motherfucker. I don't even know you motherfuckers.

I'm supposed to lie on them for you? I don't know you, niggas. And they had a nigga in that situation. And I was like, well, I guess you know what to do. Get the 12. Get the people and let's get the box going. I was raised like that. But due to the fact that I was a rapper,

they did my history and everything else and they was like, listen, you going to give all this up? Your rap career? It was a deep prosecutor that was hip to shit. You going to give all this up

to go to jail? To do 40 years? I was like, listen, I ain't do nothing. I don't know what you're talking about. Y'all can't do nothing to me. Show me the difference. Still lock my ass up.

They knew I didn't have shit to do with shit. But due to the fact that I wouldn't corroborate, they were going to drop the hammer on you. And then you went to trial with the boys, oh, you get an extra piece for that. And they pressured cats on doing that shit.

So the shit that's going on right now, it's not because, I ain't going to say, I'm not going to say niggas are soft, niggas ain't got the heart, but they put the pressure on you to be on some, if you don't do this, if you don't cooperate with us, guess what?

Stacks, we stacked up. They got enough money to fight whoever you got to fight. Double amount. The government. We talking about United States government. Nigga, that Netflix is real. If you don't motherfucking cooperate with us, we coming down on you. Better know.

There ain't nothing you can do. The judge said, this is a movie. She told us this in court. This is a movie. To you. To me. Me, my co-defendants. Me, Star, Born, and Pre.

Y'all don't know her. Lace. Backstreet. But guess what? 37 years. She said, you're going to do 40 years. She tried to give me 37. I got the lowest.

37 was the lowest? 47, 49 and a half, 51. That is crazy. Nigga. Gun laws was like, they ain't doing nothing with the gun laws. I'm in the law library all the time. We've been fighting the gun law for 20 years. These are the niggas that I've met, white boys and everybody.

We've been fighting the gun law for 20 years. They ain't passed no gun laws. You can forget about it. Those motherfuckers is like, we done gave up. We're going to do this big.

Right now, I can send a person, anybody who's here, born in Florida to Walmart. They can buy a gun. Say it again? What?

I can send anybody here that's born in Florida to Walmart. And buy a gun. Buy a again? What? I can send anybody here that's born in Florida to Walmart. And buy a gun. Buy a gun. Well, that's how it was before. That was how it was before. They just got to have a Florida ID.

I'm a bottle gun man. My bad. I understand what you're saying. Yeah. And they've been doing that. You go to the NRA, they letting motherfuckers, they fighting.

I wish Biden would say, we can't do this. They laughing at him. We make more money than you. So that gun law shit is like really crazy. But due to no disrespect, like I said, Trump, Trump, Obama, and said, fuck that. Whatever, no disrespect.

Whatever the nigga ain't do, I'm going to do it. I'm going to trumpen him. He let motherfuckers go. He met more motherfuckers to go than Obama. He let a lot of shit go. And it's a cycle. It's just like, yo, we got this. We going to do this.

And he was on his own type time. He from Queens. I'm just asking. I'm just asking. i'm just not claiming that we're associated we ain't claiming it already we got that part right i'm just asking black mothers i guess how the you can say oh uh i wish trump was back like no i wouldn't say it's going on now i wouldn't that's my only thing. Now, I wouldn't send him back. Nobody wants him back, because Trump fucked up the... I ain't gonna fuck. He's too divisive. In jail, he fucked up a lot of shit.

Man. He battled a lot of shit. Most- But he was just trying to do something that somebody couldn't do. Because in New York, everybody got rich. I don't know about rich, bro. I don't know about rich, but everybody got money. They got PPV loans. Like I said, he did shit that- A know about rich, bro. They got PPV loans.

Like I said, he did shit that. A lot of people got locked up off the PPV. I never seen one of them. I met a bunch of them. I met a bunch of them. I met a bunch of niggas that had Rolexes that did not. And probably shouldn't have had Rolexes. Listen, like I said, I had funkies that was like, fuck that. They came to my crib and tried to take this and takeies that was like, fuck that.

They came to my crib and tried to take this and take that and take this and take that. I said, you had all that? I'm going to be honest. What was the money you had? But Trump had a lot of my broke friends not broke. Right. That was an error. I'm going to just say that was an error.

But shouldn't broke friends... I didn't have broke friends during the Trump era. But after they get that money, they're not going to want to work for it anymore. I'm going to just say that was an error. But shouldn't broke friends maybe... I didn't have broke friends during the Trump era. But after they get that money, they're not going to want to work for it anymore. I'm saying... And that right there made the economy... That's what made motherfuckers right now, two, three years later,

I was supposed to get out of jail. I was supposed to get out of jail that week. Trump made niggas lazy. Corona came through. They had niggas like, yo, I need that check. Yo, earn your keep, young gun. Motherfuckers was like... Now Trump had all of his niggas like, yo, I need that check. Yo, get on your cheek, young gun. Motherfuckers was like, we ain't working.

Oh, I wish we was back. Shut up, nigga. I play PlayStation 2. Mr. Cheeks lost voice. Excuse me. PlayStation, not anybody wants it. Yo, Spix, but you got a flight, right? I want to make sure we're not cutting into you.

I know you got a flight to catch. You'll make sure your fellow The blue check buddy TV baby My friend Sonny They're doing shit. The blue check is $14.95. I'm certified out here, man. Shout out Drink Change, man. My friend Sonny hit me. He was like, Michael B. Jordan just hit me. Nigga, that's not Michael B. Jordan. You what?

This nigga got two followers. Yeah. When they posted that shit that you could buy the blue check, I had somebody hit me up like, No, no. Nigga hit me up and said, yo, I submitted my information for the blue check. I hope that they accept me. I said, bro, this shit is $15, bro. They definitely going to accept you, bro. Niggas be playing themselves for the bag.

Most of them play themselves for the bag every time, but that's what it is. That's the society we live in. But real verified niggas do that. Real recognized real, man. Real recognized real Shout out to y'all man Real recognized real man Yo boy I ain't gonna lie I feel like

Is there anything else You want to say Before we wrap it up Hey yo man Shout outs to the world man Shout outs to the world That's the first That's the first joint

Damn man But uh We came a long way Spignice OG Spignice LB fam Yes sir IG that's my IG I got a few things Damn, man. But, uh... We came a long way. It's big nice. OG, it's big nice. LB fam. Yes, sir. IG, that's my IG.

I got a few things that's going on. Hold on, let me give you... She's got some shit going on. Hey, man, we got some shit going on. Oh, hello. I want to give a big... I got to do this right now, off time. Show the ring, show the ring.

See it? L's for life. Bing. Oh. He showed the microphone. June 17th. I shall see you there, buddy. He showed the microphone. Shoutth I shall see you there buddy Shout out to Charlie Mack

Shout out to Philly Shout out to DJ Jaji Jeff And shout out to Dougie Fresh Okay For putting on that 50 year anniversary In Philly

In Philly In Atlantic City I seen that I seen that commercial last night They did that Charlie Mack Charlie Mack Charlie Mack That's my big brother Let's go man Salute to the family I seen that commercial last night. They did that. Charlie Mack.

Charlie Mack, yeah. That's my big brother. Let's go, man. Salute to the family. Dougie Fresh, yo, DJ Jazzy Jeff. L's. Let me raise it. Hello.

Let me raise it flat. Let me raise it flat. That's right there. I mean, we got a lot of shit that we want to do. Not that we want to do, that we're going to do. Exactly. We're going to do. Everything that we want to do, we've been prolonging.

But now it's time, basically. Yes. Hopefully your platform gives us all that. Hopefully. That nigga said it. It will. That nigga just raised the roof on the drinks. You see that shit? The juice.

Hey! Old school. Okay, old school, old school, old school. I'm not just listening to Legacy Continues, man. We still here. Old school. I'm here. Speak nice and slow, man.

We get that together. You know what I'm saying? That's facts. We got a lot of shit that we doing. We got movies. We got podcasts. Visiting hours of Speak Nice. We got pizza.

Pizza. We got stone pizza. Shout out to the pizza pusher. We got a lot of things. You already know, cuz. You know what I'm saying? Hello, Christopher. And we want everybody that is really with LB

Oh your cousin Vakila Gotta shout out Vakila Definitely Vakila No Vakila We got a lot of people That's definitely down with us You know what I'm saying

We wanna Bring everybody together We wanna bring everybody up You know what I'm saying Let's do that Queens joint though That you was talking about It's definitely Queens tour That Queens tour is necessary

Like I said I had I had different boroughs. I ain't talking about just Queens. Nah, we talking Queens tour. But Queens got... One thing people... We taking Queens to global.

One thing about Queens. We gonna find OC, ain't we? Listen, when I was locked up, niggas was talking that shit. OC. What up? Listen. OC. OC from Brooklyn.

OC from Brooklyn. Oh, damn. He used to be in Queens a lot with us. With Prince and him. All right. One thing I always say. We love OC. We, damn. He used to be in Queens a lot with us. With Prince and him. All right. One thing I always say. We love OC. We love OC.

And we want more drink chances. Yeah, yeah. Wherever you at, OC. OC, wherever you at. One thing about Queens. No disrespect for anybody in every country, any city, state, or whatever. We had the most MCs in every decade, in every era.

Are you kidding? Are you kidding? Hitmakers from Queens. And it's still blooming. MCs in every decade in every era. Are you being a hit maker from Queens? Every season, every joint, we had, I ain't gonna front on anybody, but we had all that shit. You know what I'm saying? In any era, we had the most MCs. What are y'all talking about? Y'all know he's not playing. Y'all funny as shit. But I'm going to say, y'all know.

I'm sorry. For real, we had the most MCs on any plateau. That's what we did. That's right. That's what we did. In any decade. And we smoked any barrel, but we loved them. That's right.

But we love them. But we love them. You know we love them. Yeah, we love them. But we had the most. And we had Yeah We love them But we had to vote And listen I had to go through this In church

Niggas always talking about Yo Y'all do this Y'all do this Barrow versus Barrow versus We Barrow versus

We in everything We in everything Where will we do it at though Barrow versus Where will we perform the verses Of the barrow In church You not

Nah Just to destroy everybody's feelings. My ear is ringing. We're going to do it in Elizabeth. In Elizabeth. And you can bring Bronx. You can bring Brooklyn. You can bring whatever. No biased opinion.

And by the way, this is law. This is law. That's fine. But when we bring out... We bring out Now, we bring out LL Cool J. We bring out Run DMC.

Then we bring out Lost Boys. Everybody from the borough get three records. CNN. Listen, give them whatever records they want.

That's like a four-four-hour show. We're going to give them 20. We're going to give them 20. And we got it. We're going to give him $20. And we got it. We're going to give him $20. Trump called Quest. We give you $20.

And this is what happens when Queens, Queens, Queens, Queens, Queens, Queens, Queens, Queens. You know what this thing is. You know what this thing is. You know what this thing is. This is a queen. I'm a red pickle in my home country. I'm from Miami, all day in the area. Listen, it's a borrowed thing, so you ain't got to even so you ain't got to... That's the thing about New York rap.

We about competition. Rap was about competition. It's all love. It's all love. Rap was about competition. Hell yeah. And we kept it like that. Let me tell you something.

We kept it like that. He's a... Mm-hmm. I want to pay to Scott LaRock for anybody that forgot the first... Absolutely. Absolutely. I want to be the Scott LaRock for anybody that forgot the first year. Absolutely. Absolutely. I want to be Scott LaRock. Scott LaRock.

That's down there. Yeah, that's my man. That's the first tragedy in hip-hop I ever fucking felt in my life. That's the first tragedy in hip-hop? Fox Boulevard. Scott LaRock. Scott LaRock.

Come on, cousin. I'm saying that's the first, like, that's the first incident ever in hip-hop where you've seen a nigga getting money and get killed. Boogie down with the shins, you know what I mean? So I'm throwing that out there. And I'm going to throw a big, as I slide away. I'll repeat it. Love, Bostowski.

Miss you, nigga. Else. You do miss Love, Bostowski. That's else. Yes, we do miss Love Boss Starsky. That's right. Let's make some love for Starsky. That's right. Let's take any stickers. You're going to wrap it up right now.

We're going to take some pictures. Yeah. Then you're going to do some drops. Facts. But I'll be remiss not to say how much I wanted to do this. I love to do this. I love to do this. You know, and I want to really, really like, because I know I am a Queens representative.

And I am a... Ambassador. I'm a Queens ambassador. But this is not me being, this is me being pure love for the Lost Boys. Because the Lost Boys were the first people that, to me, after Biz Markie, Biz Markie was making funny rap. My man. My man.

But y'all were making. You know Biz Markie. Y'all were partying with street music. And that's never been happening. Exactly. That's never been actually documented. Y'all partied. Hold on, I got you.

I got you, y'all. But y'all partied with street music and you still told stories at the same time. That's never been happened. It's never been documented. Talk that talk. Talk that talk. I want to actually, you know, beg y'all love for that. Show y'all so much love for that.

Thank you. To y'all face, face to face, and give y'all y'all flowers for that. y'all so So much love for that Thank you To y'all face Face to face And give y'all Y'all flowers for that That's all Before I wrap it up I love it Go ahead

I love it That's all Let's make some noise Let's make some noise Yeah yeah I have one more question You see how you said What you said

It's a two part Eddie It's a two part question Eddie You see how you said It's said? It's a two-part question. You see how you said it? It's been a minute since you had that. And Bobby Shmurda. Bobby Shmurda. I believe that's the...

You feel me? Not saying... He may not even be... He may not even understand it, but it's been a minute. I think he understands it. He probably do. I'm saying give or take.

Give or take. I don't know. I'm not... I don't know. Gangsta, dancing music. What I'm saying probably do. I'm just saying, give or take. Give or take. I don't know. I'm not, I don't know. Gangsta, dancing music. What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is. Bobby's a great guy. I know he's a great guy.

I can tell by his energy. You feel me? He's enjoying life. He's enjoying life right now. Yep. But what I say is, I say that to say this. The energy. Yep.

You feel me? That New York energy too. That New York energy. Yeah, New York energy. And when Bobby came on the scene, he made it good for gangster niggas that come from the hood to have a good... And filming the videos in the hood. In the hood. All the videos y'all was filming.

All the videos we had in the hood. Hold on. It coming around. I said it was a two-part. It was a two-part. And then the other part. You the Queens nigga. Do you have any Lost Boys, Freaky Ties, Mr. Cheeks memories that you can add to the course?

Just give us one. We need one from you. Because you're Queens. Me and Mr. Cheeks played basketball. Shout out D2. Yo, yo, yo. They said you were going to say that shit.ga said you were going to say that shit. Nigga said you were going to say that shit.

That was good night. Nigga said he was going to say that shit. Yeah, he said that. He was playing basketball and Tix just turned up. I don't know. What the fuck? I was so bad this thing. We all was drinking. I was setting them up the same way I was setting them up this day. This thing is just like, he just, we all was drinking.

I was setting them up the same way I was setting them up this day. Today I won. But that day, Tix, he did not let himself get drunk. And then we played basketball, and this thing is just doing some crazy stuff. He's not liking it. I was like, wait a minute.

Yo, what's that? We was saying, you know, we was saying, no. It's Stan. Big Stan. Yeah, what's that? Leprat. No. Big stand. Big stand. Yeah, yeah. It was definitely damn near. It was a close street from Leprat. And damn, I was so mad.

I was so mad. I didn't even know. Like, by the way, this nigga start doing shit. I was like, wait a minute, wait a minute. Nobody told me Chiefs could play basketball. Ayo, ayo. That was a good night. My bad.

Good night. Ayo, when you grew up in left rack, did they have tennis racket courts? No. It came later. See, I was there. We was about to move,

me and my family. We was about to move to left rack when they had tennis racket courts. Yes. You were a magician. Yes, yes. I was there We was about to move Me and my family We was about to move The left rack When they had Tennis rack in court Yes I was there Yes

I was going over there But we moved East New York It happened And then the white people left And then Exactly This was like 70

This was 70 Because you know why They wanted to make it A Jewish community At one point They wanted to make it A Jewish community Shout out to Big Stan No no make it a Jewish community. Yeah. At one point, they wanted to make it a Jewish community.

Shout out to Big Stan. Hey, but by the way, no, no, it's a Jewish community now. It wasn't when you moved there? No, no, no. It was like, oh, no, no. No, no, no. But you guys still like, I understand that. And now it's robots out there.

I live in Far Rock. You feel me? I'm from Far Rock. You feel me? And y'all about to beat, y'all about to go. No, we about to get the fuck out of here. Yeah, y'all about to go. Y'all about to beat.

One last question. Y'all, y'all. This shit, that shit about to be like a big shit? That shit about to be malleable. That shit about to be. Y'all nigg go. No. We about to get the fuck out of here. Yeah, y'all about to go. Y'all about to be. One last question. Y'all about to be like a lady. Y'all about to be malleable. Y'all niggas better hurry up. Either buy or leave. Because listen. He don't know what I'm talking about. Listen.

Don't make me move about to gentrify the fuck out of y'all. He down here. No, listen. Listen. I'm real honest with y'all. This is either what they're going to do with y'all. You better buy property. Yeah, you better own that shit.

Or get the fuck out because that's my word. Listen to me. Y'all are the only New York property before the Hamptons. That's on the beach. Are you crazy? Y'all not safe. Listen. Queen's great chickens? Y'all not safe. Listen. Queen's great chickens, get out of there too.

Because let me just say something. They got the city. They are going to wipe us all out. Gentrification is not fake. Not for nothing, Noreen. It's not fake. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

Not for nothing. When Sandy came, that was like free demolition for Far Rockaway. Yeah. Get the fuck out of there. For that breezy point, because it knocked off all the beach. Now it's all free for development. You know how many houses was lost and shit like that? You know how many development people coming in?

I guess that's sad. Yo, as black people... I used to go to church in Far Rockaway. Listen, I'm a young nigga. Like I said, we in the era where we start, we learning, we got a lot of access to a lot of shit. Financial freedom, learning what's going on in the world, paying attention and doing the right shit

because we in situations, like we grew up, like you said, we grew up in these environments where it's not too much for us. You feel me? But now is our situations is developing. You feel me? Even you feel me? Wherever you are, there's a lot of new development. But we've been there forever.

You feel me? We've been in there forever. We've been doing the project shit. They taking over the projects too So what we got to do is You said either buy you some shit Get the fuck out the flip that shit One last question Five chicken wings. One, two, one, two. Who is you? Go ahead, Cheeks. What you wanted to say? Say what you said.

I feel like you was. Say you had one last question. Uh. What you was drink? I forgot that. All good. Let's take the flick, yo. I could be young with the young.

Oh, yeah, yeah. One last. You got it. You remember Big Stan, right? Love you, my nigga. Yes, Big Stan. Now, now, now. Just want to give him a shout out.

Nice skin. Nice skin, Big Stan. Left rank in the building. Yes, that's the one. Shout out to Baby Doll. That's one of the PlayStation. Shout out to O'Connell. The first PlayStation.

KODs, I'll see you on Sunday. Yes, O'Connell got KODs in Atlanta. That's right. Sunday brunches, I say, from 12 to 4, everyone that's listening. Where at? KODs, man, with a girl B, man. That's when you got to get it over. So where do you live?

You say you don't live in Queens, so where do you live now? Right now, I live in South Carolina. Manning, South Carolina. That's right. Trying to move. But I'm trying to blow South Carolina up. Because I know we've been doing shit from, like I said, from the 80s. We've been moving all the way to Florida.

All the way here. And we've been planting seeds all the way. That's right. Literally? Literally. Not literally. All right. Wait a minute.

You almost got me. Literally, but not literally. Literally, but I don't know. Literally. But listen. But listen. I'm 95. Literally?

I don't know. Literally. But literally. But literally. But listen, we've been putting music, dirt, all the way down 95 since the 80s. Right. Actually, we did good, we did bad. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

But I want to do South Carolina. I want to help South Carolina grow. Because everything skipped. Everything was going. And it skipped over South Carolina. And went all the way this way Why are we talking about you? Why are we talking about you? Why are we talking about you?

Because we kept saying earlier The good and the bad Right? But And then Cheek said You know what? At one point it went bad

Is the bad time The time you hit the bank, is that it? Or, because this might be the last question because everyone is telling me, yeah, I got to go. I got you. But listen, my thing is, I'm a street nigga. I've been in the streets. Right.

I've always been in the streets. Right. For real. Yes. When I say for real, for real? Yeah. I met niggas that's in jail that said, you're a legend. I said, for what?

What are you talking about? Young niggas. I never met a bank robber. Never mind a rapper. Never mind the shit that you done heard this, that, and the third heard me from. I never met a bank robber. I heard about them. I seen stories.

I seen movies or shows and this, that, and the third. I never met somebody that's had a bank robbery charge, like, for real. And you like that. You cool. There ain't no suck up time or bullshit time in the center and third. So, times is ups and downs. Ups and downs. You know what I'm saying?

Sometimes you got your good times and sometimes you're going back times. Niggas do what they do. I've been in the street, nigga. I've been in the streets. So, what happened, happened. Not saying that these motherfuckers know what the hell happened or that what they accused me of happened.

Shit happens. You home. If I ain't, if I was ah, ah, ah, then you would've known about it. But you ain't hearing no ah, ah, ah. So it's whatever it is. You know what I'm saying? I ain't, you, ah. So it's whatever it is.

You know what I'm saying? I ain't, you know what I'm saying? Niggas get off the porch and run in the streets and get hit by a car. That's a bar. That is a bar. Next thing you know, niggas is over here talking about, he did it. He told me to go across the street. You feel me? Nah, to go across the street. You feel me?

Nah, I ran across the street myself. Nobody tell me nothing. If you ask me, or whatever the case may be. So it was like, I did what I do. I take my lip. If I did it or I didn't,

I don't know nothing. Ronald Blackwell no filming that's my name my fast, but I'm doing it for the drink chat. Look it up. I make that one up. I make this one up. Is there anything else anyone in y'all want to say before y'all get up out of here? It's LB for life, you dig? Yeah. We appreciate the, you know,

giving us the light real quick. You know what I mean? Shout out to Katina Bynum And I'm Over at Universal We're about to do a little 25 year anniversary album For Legal Joe

Right Half the time Half the time That half the time That hip hop was alive We got 25 We was in there Jumped in that game

Yeah yeah We had our standing. Hey, stay nappy. You feel me? Peace and nappy. We trying to do what we do. And we trying to continue the legacy with our kids, with our nephews, with our grands.

Everything, we came in the game to put everybody in. We grandfathers now, all of us grandfathers. Lou, Lou, wait, wait, wait. Lou, chair dad. Lou is the chair dad. Yes, wait. Lou, chair dad. Lou is the chair dad. Yes. Shout out to the chair dad. Shout out.

Chair dad is, you go to, he cheerleaders. He got daughters, that's cheerleaders. And that's more important to him than anything. As it should be. You know what I'm saying? As it should be. You feel me? Talk championship, tossing around, throwing them.

It's the same thing as a boat, man, keeping the legacy going. Yeah, you got the legacy. That's what we do. That's true legacy. We trying to keep our legacy going and for everybody that don't know, Lost Boys is...

Listen, one more thing. I used to tell cats, young cats and shit like that, nigga, I'm the reason you here. Your mother met your father at one of our shows and that'd be real shit because you know why because i met a bunch of dudes that said i heard of y'all they don't know me but they heard of something that means that your parents was influenced your mother your father was influenced by music.

That's how y'all got together. That's how y'all got produced. We did produce. No disrespect to R. Kelly, but we did produce a motherfucking bunch of kids ourselves. We planted seeds ourselves. How many kids from, like, I want to say, like, 2000, 2001, how many kids got the name Tali? How many kids? the name Talik? How many kids?

And that's a, and go, Google. You feel me? And in the South Jamaica area, so many kids' names. I got two artists that I really fuck with. I'm like, damn. And both of their names is Talik. And then I meet their family. I'm like, yo, they're like, yeah, you know, I'll name them after your pops. I named them. It's so many boys and I like, cause it's not even just, you feel me? But it's cause, like, my pops is an urban legend in South Jamaica, Queens. Right, right.

Yes, he is. He's from street, like, nigga, you hear, you hear stories, you hear stories from all, no, y'all all are, you feel me? Yeah, but y'all, y'all here to, y'all here to To tell a story You feel me So when I Me personally When I hear stories about I hear stories about my pops

Literally Every I'm 30 years old J-Ball You feel me Shout out J-Ball I hear stories about my pops Every single day

Every day I wake I live in Jamaica, Queens You feel me Some days I wake up Niggas is driving Past my window Bing Lost Boys. Like, this is every day.

Every fucking day. Shout out to my queen. You feel me? It's so embedded into our hood. You feel me? The hip hop influence. That's why we said hip hop. Trey on.

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