Drink Champs - Episode 370 w/ Ice-T

Episode Date: June 30, 2023

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the Champs chop it up with the legend himself, Ice-T!A Pioneer of Gangsta Rap and a Hip-Hop Icon, Ice-T sits down with the Champs! Ice-T shares his journey, talks acting, shares the story of “99 Problems”, the history of Gangsta Rap and much much more! Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise for Ice-T!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com  Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps  DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions  N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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When we talk about An icon of an icon When we talk about Legends of legends This man has had At least two, three, four careers Careers So many people come and go

In this rap game For you to sustain Your success Like how this man has sustained And been a G about it the whole time. A lot of people would have lost their mind, went crazy, been rolling out here with 15,000 people. He came to dinner last night with his family. Like that's gangster to me.

I mean, album after album, hit after hit, continuously to be relevant. You know, some say, is the father of gangster rap. And then to have a great career like that and then go on to dominate movies and dominate a TV show. That TV show, but I'm fucking 25 fucking years. Motherfucker, if you don't know what the fuck we talking about at this point,

we talking about motherfucking IT. I want to get straight to the speech. Straight to the speech. Go get that one. Straight to the speech. I never see a speech as... I mean, you and Snoop both was cold. Because Snoop thanked himself, right? Yes. And you thanked the haters.

I thanked the haters. But did you make this speech up as you was talking? Or you had this written down? I walk with that every day. Like, haters have always been my motivation. I actually have a clothing line called Powered by Hate. you was talking or you had this written down? I walk with that every day. Haters have always been my motivation. I actually have a clothing line called Powered by Hate. Wow. Which I've always

been able to use the energy from them as my motivation. Right. All I got to do is go on the internet and I find somebody talking shit about me then I'm going to go in the gym. I take that energy.

This nigga fell off. Okay. That's why I need that. Because praise doesn't do much for me. I'm not that guy. Like, it just, I got it. So a bad show is what's going to make me do a good show. So I always, I always use it.

So now I'm getting the star, right? You don't know how many times I've been arrested in Hollywood, how many times I've been face down on them stars, looking at them like, you know, getting cuffed. So now I've been to Hollywood police stations so many times. So now what a difference a day makes. Now they honoring me. and so i'm there i'm in this moment right i got dick waltz and all the law and order people there russell simmons

ice cube showed up you know all my g's were there and i'm saying all the right stuff and then i just it just hit me man that shit just came out of nowhere i said make i think the fucking haters man i gotta get there y'all really is what pushed me and motivated me to get to this point. The fact you said I could not do it. So it just happened, man. And I think people dug it. It was organic. Yeah, it was authentic.

I caught the holy ghost. Fuck these motherfucking haters, man. But I love them because I need them See, that part went viral But I suggest people go watch the whole speech You know what I mean? It was motivational Yeah, the whole speech

A lot of people don't know You was cursing throughout the whole motherfucking speech I curse, I use all King's English I explain to people that Even the term curse Like, you know, if you look up profanity in a dictionary, there's something which is blasphemous. Blasphemy would be saying the Lord's name in vain. So the only word that could be considered blasphemous would be God be damned. You know, when I'm not going to do no seance and none of that shit here, but basically fuck, shit, bitch, hoe, dirty hoe, slut, this.

These are just taboo words that bother people. So your parents would tell you, if you say them words, you're going to go to hell. But in that, by them using those words, using that theory, saying fuck is going to send you to hell, they in themselves are creating something

blasphemous. So if anybody's going to hell, it's your fucking parents for lying to you all these years. Because I think profanity is just an explanation point you put into a sentence. You want me to give you an example? Your mother says, don't take the car. Your dad says, don't touch my motherfucking

car. What he did is he took a word, brought it into the sentence that brought your attention, because the car can't fuck more or less fuck his bitch. You see what I'm saying? So when we say these words, they're just explanation

points. To add to the statement, but they don't hold any merit. They don't hold, you know, bullshit. Who has really ever seen bullshit? What is a bullshit? How about dog shit? So I just use them. And if you ask

me not to, I won't. I can also do that. I can behave if it bothers you, offends you. But if I'm speaking freely, which I feel like I'm on drink champ, so occasionally they'll occasionally they'll pop out.

And like you early said something about gangster rap. When I started rapping, I would curse or use profanity. That was new. That was new. People would actually get on a record and just say, talk the way people talk. That was new. It's like throwing paint on a canvas. How old was you?

When I started rapping, I was about 26. Wow. talk the way people talk. That was new. It's like throwing paint on a canvas. How old was you? Look at that. When I started rapping, I was about 26. Wow, okay. I didn't start early. I actually had been in the streets, so I had some experience. My wife will listen to rappers. She's like 19.

She's like, so how could they have done all that? I said, they haven't. They haven't. I'm 27. I've been in the military. I lived. I've been out there. I tried my luck in the streets. So by the time I was rapping, my shit was loaded with

information. So, yeah, 27. What year was that when you started? I don't know. I don't know. I'm older, though. You know, I graduated from high school at 76. Okay. I was born in 77, just so you know. Born'm older, though. You know, I graduated from high school at 76. Okay. I was born in 77, just so you know. Born in 75.

Don't make me Sunday. Yeah, yeah. I'm attracted. I'm attracted. Make sense. Yeah. So last night, you're hanging out. I got you to drink a glass of champagne.

Yeah, I told you, I don't drink, but I socially sip. Socially sip. That's a good way of putting it. And when you socially sip, is it always champagne? Sometimes, like, I'm out with my wife, she'll drink cranberry and vodka.

Uh-huh. And, you know, depending on how you mix it, it can, it's just, you know, you can mix it strong. Sometimes I'll sip Kahlua and milk, which is kind of like Starbucks.

Okay, yeah, yeah. You know, I've drank Jager Mike. Like, when I tell people I don't drink, what I mean is I don't sit in... You've named a kind of like Starbucks. Okay, yeah, yeah. I've drank Jager Mike. When I tell people I don't drink, what I mean is I don't sit at home. You need a lot of shit iced. I don't sit at home and drink. You know, the homie that's sitting home at two in the afternoon with the bourbon,

like, listening to television and it's on. That nigga, that's not me. And I never really drank when I was hanging out because I felt it compromised my position. I never thought being drunk was attractive. Hold on, hold on. For men or women. Because yesterday you said you never tasted Asus.

I never tasted Asus. So I remember when you drank Asus. You introduced me to it. It was decent. What I didn't realize is you unholds, not discrepancy, but misunderstanding about 99 Problems. Well, the thing about the 90, let's go, you want to go into Jay-Z? Yeah, yeah. He wants to get right into it. You know, he owns this damn thing.

I remember love for Jigga. That's right. I knew Jigga. I met Jay-Z way back in the day. Big Daddy Kane brought him to my house. Wow. Back when he was with Jazzo. Wow.

Jay-Z was just a kid, so he wasn't really doing much, but he was just there with Kane. Kane was the boss. Mm-hmm. Everybody, they take, see, what happens in this podcast world is they'll take something I'm saying right now and they'll edit it with another something from someplace else and it'll turn into a conversation that is not real. There's no beef between me and Jay-Z and 99 Problems. But a lot of people didn't know that that was originally my song. Right. So when they asked me about it, I said that's originally my song.

Then the podcast world goes, tea see jay stole it no jay did not steal it you're just explaining something playing in it so you want to know the story the 99 problems since we're on drink yes let's go i was with brother marquis from uh two live crew two live crew and joe brother marquis was talking about whoop there it is now do you know the story behind whoop there it is no whoop There It Is is what they used to say at Magic City when the girls would bend over and you could see their pussy. Wow. I never knew.

What? Right. Tag team with the DJs at Magic City. Okay. All right. Now it makes sense. So when the girls boo, no. Whoop There It Is.

Because I just want to be clear. Magic City is a strip club. In Atlanta? Atlanta. Atlanta. The original one. Yeah, Atlanta. Atlanta. I was talking to you about Miami. Because you said want to be clear. Magic City is a strip club. In Atlanta? Atlanta. Atlanta. The original one. Yeah, Atlanta. Atlanta.

I was talking to you about Miami. Because you said Brother Marquis. Okay, yeah. Atlanta. Okay. Tag team were the DJs in the club. They were the strip club DJs. And that was what they'd say.

When the girl opened up, whoop, there it is. So now that became a big hit record. So Marquis is at my house. He's like, nigga, I was sitting there all them nights. That was the phrase that paid. You know? And then out of nowhere, he said, man, I got 99 problems, but a bitch ain't one. I said,

what the fuck did you just say? He said, I got nine. I said, that's a record, Mark. That's a record. So he says, okay, fuck with it. So I write the record. I got a hoe from the east. I got a hoe from the west. I got a hoe that likes to jack it off and rub it in her chest. I got a hoe from the east. I got a hoe from the west. I got a hoe that likes to jack it off and rub it in her chest. I got a bitch from the north, a bitch from the south, a bitch that likes to suck it long and hold it in her mouth.

I got a bitch with hair, a bitch with none, a bitch with a knife, a bitch with a gun, a bitch with as big as a TV set. And there's a bitch over there. Hey, the one I'm going to get. But yo, but maybe not. She may not like me, though. No sweat to a vet. I'll fuck her sister, though. Word. I rocked a bitch over there. Hey, the one I'm going to get. But yo, but maybe not. She may not like me, though. No sweat to a vet. I'll fuck her sister, though. Word.

I rocked a whole damn herd. Fuck them all and put them on the curb. I got a bitch with a mink who rocks a fat gold link who likes to fuck me with her ass upon the kitchen sink. I got a bitch with tits, a bitch with ass, a bitch with none. But hey, I give her a pass. And I love them all. I love them crazily. And they love me back.

That's why they stay with me. So if you're having girl problems, I'll forbear for your son. I got 99 problems. That was on the home invasion album. So there's more, you know, it goes on and on. And Marquise says a rhyme. So what happens, the way the story goes, Rick Rubin was producing Jay-Z in the studio,

and Chris Rock was there. This is the story I got. Chris is an Ice-T fan because we bonded from New Jack City. Pookie. Pookie, that's my nigga. I saved his fucking life. Well, he got killed. Pookie got it later.

Yeah, he relapsed heavy. Yeah, he relapsed heavy. Yeah, he relapsed. Yo, what's up? So, so. Yeah, keep calling me, man. It's cold. So, apparently they said Chris gave Rick the idea to do 99 Props. And so that's where they decided

to do the song. The cold thing is Jay-Z, when he did the song, he even took the hit. Hit me. That's the part that got me. I'm like, damn, he got that. So he does the record. The record's a hit. Now, I had a publishing deal with Warner Brothers. When you, anybody knows what a publishing deal is, you can

sell your publishing to people for a year. And they'll give you the money up front. Warner Brothers or Warner Chapel? I don't know. Okay, okay. It was Warner something. Okay, okay.

It could have been MC. It could have been Universal. I don't know. I had a publishing deal. Okay. So for that year, they pay you up front. Say, for instance, over a year, you might make $200,000, $300,000 on your publishing. With a publishing deal, you say, give me that up front.

And then after that number, we'll split it 50-50. And then at the end of the year, I get it back, and I can do it. So that's a publishing deal. During the time I did the 99 Problems, I was in a publishing deal. So that money just, I didn't get paid. It went off to the deal. And that money just, I didn't get paid. It went off to the deal. And that's how it happened. Jay-Z didn't steal

it. So the end of the story is, it hits the internet and everybody, oh, he's teased, pissed. I'm like, I'm not even pissed. It's tripping for somebody to say you mad and you not mad. I'm like, I'm not mad. Why are they making me mad, right? So,

I'm at the Gram'm not mad. Why are they making me mad? I'm at the Grammys, so I see Jay-Z. Now, Jay-Z has turned into a whole other thing. But I respect that. Once he got married, he's now... I respect marriage.

Anyway, I see him and he smiles at me. He goes, are you mad at me? I said, no. He said, you know I love you, I see him and he smiles at me. He goes, Ice, you mad at me? I said, nah, nigga. He said, you know I love you, right? I said, I love you. I said, yeah. And he says, nah, nah.

I said, Jay-Z, that's not by my words, right? And so then at the end I said, but Jay, at the end of the record, you could have said, Ice! You could have thrown that nigga a bone or something. I could have used it. I'm not a billionaire, Jay. But no, no. All love. And, you know, once again, this is what the press can do and steer shit into beef that's not ever beef.

To be clear, though, did your publishing collect off of that? I'm sure they did. Oh, they did. Oh, I'm sure they did. Okay. I'm sure they did. But no, there was no check written. I didn't get nothing like that.

Right. I mean, just recently, Ice Cube is a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, right? And so I'm watching TV and I hear the fucking turtles say, six in the morning, police at my door. No way. Right? You heard it? That's your shit. Right. So cute.

But I got paid. Right. That goes it? That's your shit. Right. So cute. But I got paid. Right. That goes through publishing and stuff like that. And I got a little check because I got my publishing back now. I own my publishing, so I got a check. I don't want to tell you, but I got paid. I was like, okay. So, yeah, it's publishing.

Jamie, I know he's not drinking, but can we offer him a glass of champagne? Yeah, give me something. Give me something from the top shelf. Yeah, yeah, champagne. A glass of champagne. Come on. Come on, like that. Come on. Yeah.

But yeah, yeah. I don't have no beef with nobody, man. I've managed to navigate this hip-hop shit without any drama with anybody. Which leads to my next question. Oh, here we go. I'm a hustler. I'm your pusher. Right.

That was LL. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got the crackhead taking everybody else's music, but when you offer him LL music, the crackhead said, nah, man. Okay, let's go to LL. Okay. Is this called drink champs or beef champs? No, no.

No. As a fan, I want to know how that started i got it i got it i got okay this story's been told but this had happened yeah ll was ll was the nigga at the time ll was out you know insurmountable beat subject of discussion you're motivated by that so i need so i'm i'm in the ll right but ll had came out and said i'm the greatest all time early in his career he started the goat thing okay i'm coming from la i'm trying to be a hot rapper so i had to go at him that's just the culture so i took off on ella fuck this nigga like that's what's happening right not like i want to shoot him just fuck you you ain't the best rapper at time i thought i was

pretty good rapper okay and that's what it was um i started it pretty much that's it i started it right so ll comes back with the break of dawn. And he dissed me. Called me a little rap raccoon and some shit. Because I had a ponytail. And we was about to come back. I had another song called Open Contract, right? And at that point, L wanted to be part of Zulu Nation.

And at that time, I was higher up in Zulu because Africa Islam had put me in the game so is was the president right right so they come to me asking me can L be in Zulu I'm like nah nah I can't so because I had a little power so it went back and forth and stuff but Bambada at the time just said yo we need peace, peace. So me and L agreed not to talk shit about each other. We didn't do no handshakes or hugs or kisses or make records. We just said, you know, you squash people. You just agreed to it. We agreed not to be at each other. So I never said anything else negative about L.

He never said anything else negative about me. Fast forward 20 years. We're in Monte Carlo at a television convention, right? We're going to skip over Monte Carlo. Hold on. Maybe the flyest spot in the world, right?

French motherfucking Riviera. Yachts everywhere. God damn it. Now, we went on a immediately. It's a tough. Now, we went on a vacation. It was a TV convention where people from television in the United States would go over there and they had like the award ceremony and all that old bullshit. So I'm over there and I look across the thing. I see L Cool J.

Something to walk over to LL Cool J. Right. 20 years. We have never really talked. Have y'all saw each other and not talk? Or never? No, we never crossed paths. Okay, go ahead.

Continue. We never crossed paths. But it was never no real beef. Right. It was just rap shit. You can't have beef in Monte Carlo anyway. That would have been disrespectful. Tupac was big when he squashed that shit there.

I mean, it all depends on who you fuck with. Some shit is on site, bro. So anyway, I walk over to L. I said, yo, man, you've been around a long few years. We're just at the third, man. Just want to let you know, even back then, I didn't necessarily apologize. I just said, I just clarified my position that I wasn't mad or we wasn't tight. He said, Ice, it was the culture, man. And that's like that.

And then he turned and he said, man, I need you. He says, I'm doing this Rock the Bells radio, and I need to get at you so me and you can show this for the culture. And since then, me and LL, I've been on his podcast. Not a podcast, but live stream. Yeah. And we chopped it up and we were just recently at the Grammys together. I mean, see, real beef, real beef never dies.

Real beef. Real beef is murder. Right. Death. That never dies. I don't give a fuck. Right. You know, if somebody killed somebody that you love, that's not going no more. We ain't hugging later, nigga. Right, right. I don't give a fuck. If somebody killed somebody that you love, that's not going no more. We ain't hugging later, nigga. You know what I'm saying? But everything else

is not necessarily real beef. Somebody ripped you off some money, this, that, and the other. You might be able to get over that. So rap shit is not nowhere near real beef. That's not real. It's not in my book. That's real shit. So again, not in my book. All right. That's real shit. So, again,

sorry to bring up. Here we go. Beef. Who else? Anybody else? Bring up Soulja Boy. Why don't you bring up Soulja Boy?

We'll get back to that. Who is looking to that, too? No, no, it's not even worth it. Let me just say something. You got me here and we want to talk about these things.

Now, last night, we out and you play, we play on the speaker all night you're playing the war report you're playing one of noriega's first hours the anniversary so congratulations hold on let me build up to it so i'm sitting there and i usually be like come on because i don't want to hear my own shit that's one day right then too it's like you know it was a different setting but i didn't say nothing to you i just i was what i said you rock. You know what today is? The 26th anniversary of the

War Report. How the fuck did you know? I didn't even know. I keep playing this shit all night and I'm looking and I was just like, usually I'd be like, oh please man, I don't want to hear my own shit, but for some reason I was just like, I can't tell ice nothing. And I wake up this morning and all I see is like,

I said, this motherfucker told me, it was basically like he was telling me that last night. Look, Norrie, this is what you don't understand to me, right? That's who you are to me. Right. You know, like L.A., we had our rappers, our gangster rappers, whether it was Spice One or myself. They got Spice One. All us ghetto boys.

But we knew who was doing the similar shit on the East Coast. Queens, to us, was the most replicated gangster rap, the best. Whether it's Mobb Deep or it's Nas. I mean, also, we got to go with M.O.P. We got to go with Capone and Noriega. We know who is doing that shit, the apolitical gangster shit. Gangster shit, gangster rap is apolitical. It means, like, fuck the laws. I am the law. And this is how I see shit. You cross shit, gangster rap is apolitical. It means like, fuck the laws,

I am the law. And this is how I see shit. You cross me, you die. That's gangster rap, right? That's what Nori and them was, Iraq and all that bloody money. Like, yo, we like, who are these niggas? Who are these niggas? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm feeling that, right? Now

I see him, like now people see me as the police. But when I when I. Right. Right. Because if you're 20, I've been on TV 25 years playing the cop. So if you see me on TV, you 21, 22, you have no reference point to me as anything other than that. My reference point to Nori is not drink champs. Right, right. It's them, what, what, what, what? Like, you get shot shit, right?

Right. And I don't even think a lot of people who really set up with him on here realize how dangerous his music was or is. They get it even if they caught the end of it when they like, light a candle, swim laps around that's not that gangster shit that niggas was doing earlier.

That early shit was violent which I like, right? So I come in bumping that shit through my little speaker. I still listen to that shit. Me right now, if you're in my car, we listen to Mobb Deep. We listen to that kind of heavy shit. It puts me in a zone.

It keeps me on like this. I love it. Look, this is my reference point. Goddamn. Original Gangsta. And before that, this is one of my favorite albums. Thank you.

Original Gangsta. So I was going to wear my richard, but I said, let me wear my war report because it'll camouflage. It's only gangsta. It's only right. What do you have on?

Is it another richard? Why you say richard? Because I'm trying to sound... I'm trying to sound rich. That's how they pronounce it, right? Richard. Richard Mill. I thought he was going with

the other Richard that he had on yesterday. He just busted another one. Come on. Let me make some noise for that motherfucking... That TV money. Another thing we was talking about was...

Don't get me robbed. No, no, no. You good. You good. I be telling niggas these are swatches. They look like swatches. They look like swatches.

They look like swatches. I'm like, come on, man. I don't wear jewelry. One thing that was funny is we was talking yesterday and you said that how at that time, you was frowned upon

to join a TV show. You was looked at like a Will Smith or like, you know, like you was looking like you was selling out at that time. Smith or like, you know, like, you was looking like you was selling out at that time. Look, dude, everything I done, it seemed weird to niggas in the street. Like, when I start rapping, niggas like, you a rapper?

Like, you rapping? Like, nigga, we getting money, nigga. We out here doing our shit. You know, you rapping? Like, it was whack. Till they all went to prison and came home and now they work for me. Right. You know, you rapping? Like, it was whack. Until they all went to prison and came home, and now they work for me. Right. You know?

Right. You know, but at the time, like, nigga, you better come get this money. Right. Stop playing with rap. Right. Rap niggas. Like, we was whack. Like, nigga, you dance?

Nigga, we don't dance. Nigga, like. You know what I'm saying? Because you was a B-boy. You was out there. But I liked it. i i got i got hit by the hip-hop bug i wanted to be a dj a b-boy all that but my street cats that was not happy because there was no money in it right if ain't no money in it they like

why are you doing it he wastes time so i would hustle on the week and on the weekends i would go to the club and beat and play rapper but as far as being an actor of course when when i started acting no one had acted yet nobody will smith nobody nobody i was the first rapper to take on a dramatic role and what role was that uh my first very first role has to be new jack City. Wow. That was the first time. Because you had Tougher Than Leather. Correct me if I'm wrong. Yeah.

You had Tougher Than Leather. You had Beat Street. Beat Street. You had Crush Groove. Crush Groove. But nobody. But at that time, the rappers were playing rap. They weren't really active. Right, right, right.

So I had to play a cop. And that was a trip, too, because that was the year I dropped the original Gangster album. I was terrified. I thought I was committing career suicide. Wow. Yeah. But, you know, I took the chance. I told you that story.

I got pressed. Like, I used to get my hair done, right? You know, remember, I used to have the perm. My shit was more wavy than the ships in the Navy. Because as a player, you have to outmatch a perm. My shit was more wavy than the ships in the Navy. Because as a player, you have to outmatch a bitch. You got to look better than a bitch. That's part of being a player.

You got to have your nails done better. You got to dress better. Your hair got to grow longer. You have to outmatch. You know you in that weave. You know that ain't your nails. You going to bow down to this pimper. You understand what I'm saying? So that's where I was.

It's mad psychological. It's totally logical because they have to understand it. They understand it. You know that I'm flyer than you. Let's get that straight off the top. So I was in my place getting my hair done. I used to get my hair done twice a week. And I said I got a chance to be in a movie.

And the girl, Pearl, who did my hair was like, and you ain't going to take it? Because I didn't want to play the police. I was questioning. She said, nigga, all you niggas is running around here doing all this crime shit. And you talking about no opportunities. And this is the opportunity. If you do not take it, you a real life sucker.

And this is a woman calling me a sucker. She like you a real life sucker. This is your chance. Do it. You gonna keep it 100 forever because I know how you cut, but don't let this fuck you up. And then that was first one.

Then I talked to one of my real Gs, Nelsie, rest in peace. He's like, why are you worried about playing police? Niggas know you ain't no motherfucking police. Why are you worried about that shit, nigga? You got to get that paper. And then I would call my I talk to my other homies. I say, yo, man, they want me to be in a movie, play police.

They'd be like, word. Could I be in the movie? Call people in jail. Yo, they want me to, I know you in the bowels of the devil. I know you stuck. You want me to, I want to pay the police. Word? If I was home, could I be in the movie?

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You ever see MTV Cribs? You open the shit up? Yeah, the motherfucking house with the brains blown out. Who had a convertible house? Stop it. DJ Khaled ain't even still got a convertible house. Take some champagne. Take a sip of champagne, goddammit. I got a convertible house. Take some champagne.

Take some champagne, goddammit. I had a convertible house, nigga. Stop it. Let's get to the convertible house. Yeah, this is some good shit. I've tasted champagnes before. I know Dom is nice. A good champagne, when it gets

in your mouth, it evaporates. If you're taking wax champagne, it tastes like you're drinking 7-Up. Right. Like this. Right. All right, anyway. Convertible House. I'm at the Convertible House, Fab Five Freddy's at the crib.

One of my OGs. Shout out to Fab Five. Fab Five from Wild Style. Meet him on Daytime. Yeah, right. He was there. He's a day one hip hopper. Certain people are day one.

So he's talking to me by my house. He's telling me I should turn my living room into a planetarium like in the back. And so I could have stars up there so we could show the hoes the constellations. Can't make this shit up. Freddie gonna laugh.

Andre Harrell hits him up, rest in peace andre harrell's like you at ice's crib tell ice to come be on s be on um new york undercover so i told andre fuck that i said that's a ripoff of new jack city fuck you in case you haven't checked i'm doing movies right now nigga i don't don't do TV. So I'm on my bullshit, right? Because I was doing a movie with Keanu Reeves and shit. I was like, nigga, I'm up in the hills. I was a little bit full of myself at that point. Really coming to Andre, because I knew Andre from Jekyll and Hyde days. Oh, come on, Ice.

Oh, you too big now? That's what black people do. You too big now? You can't fuck with us? I said, all right, give me a bad guy role and I'll do it. And I did Danny Up. Then I did one episode and Dick Wolf basically said, I don't want to kill Ice. Will he do two more episodes? This was a die in the first episode.

And that's when I came back. I shot Malik Yoba's girl uh cut fingers off they let me while out two episodes and that was my first working with dick wolf and after that i did swift justice one of his shows then i did law and order exiled then i did uh i had my own Players, which is on for a season. And then I got called to do SVU, which was only supposed to be a four-episode arc. And I went on there for four episodes. I've been on there 25 years. So it started from New York Undercover? Yeah. Wow.

Dick Wolf is the producer of all those shows. That's incredible. Dick Wolf has nine shows in primetime right now. Nine shows. He has Law & Order, SVU, Organized Crime, he has FBI, FBI Most Wanted, FBI International, Chicago PD, Chicago Med, Chicago...

Nine shows in primetime. Yeah, he's not to be fuckless. And his check's clear. Never been late on a payment, nothing. The man is the real deal. All right. Everybody else in Hollywood is complaining about the strike.

The writer's strike. The writer's strike. How come Law & Order isn't? I'm complaining. I'm not complaining about it, but it's fucking with my paper. Oh, because you're not filming as long as the strike is happening? That's why I'm down here. I'm on hiatus.

We broke. We broke in May. We supposed to go back right after July down here. I'm on hiatus. We broke. We broke in May. We're supposed to go back right after July. Wow. And we probably won't. So we'll actually maybe go in, say, August. But with Law & Order,

you shoot three episodes a month. So, right? It takes eight days to shoot an episode. Eight days, add a weekend, ten days, so thirty days. Eight days, add a weekend, ten days, so 30 days. So you're doing three episodes a month. As a series regularly...

Eight days. Eight for each episode. Eight for each episode. But you're only in the scenes you're in. So say out of the eight days, there's 45 scenes. I could be in 10 scenes. I could be in 20 scenes. I could be in one scene, but you get paid at an episodic rate. So if I say, huh, I get the same check as if I act. It's like being in the NBA. If I sit on the bench, I get paid. Right. So when they tell you, Nori, we want you in for 22 episodes and your episodic rate is whatever. I don't know what it is. Maybe it's 100,000.

Then you times that times 23, and that's what you make that year. If you're making 500,000 an episode, you multiply it. So, you know, it becomes lucrative. It becomes lucrative. But when they have an active strike, they start taking away episodes. That's money. But I got to stand with the writers because you know what it's all about.

What is the writers complaining about? It's streaming, man. Streaming. Yeah, and the whole AI stuff too. Shit, hip hop should be doing that then. Well, hip hop, I don't understand hip hop streaming, but right now you see me on NBC, so you get residuals.

But then they got you on Peacock. And they don't really, they ain't even talking about how that money is, what's happening. So the writers is like, hold up everything. Because they'll just keep going. They'll just keep going and taking the money until you. So they had to stop the boat for a minute. Like, we need to address this. Hip hop streaming, I don't understand.

I really don't. I used to sell records you went in the store you bought the motherfucking record they had a sound scan now snoop was like man you do a billion streams they get your check for 45 dollars right who came up with that with that that uh what math what's the algorithm and how do you even know if it's a real algorithm right it's trusting i don't i don't and then you get gold and platinum records but no one bought the record yeah you see it all the time ours you never even heard of holding up their golden platinum i'm proud of my records i'm proud

i actually you know people bought the record you think think of think nor you saw a million records that's right think of it like this. A stadium filled to the top is like 100,000 people. Fill that stadium 10 times. That's how many people walked into a store and bought your record. Not pushed a button, walked in and purchased it.

That's big. Them days is big. Now you can buy one song out of an album. Right. Well, they had singles before. No, but I one song out of an album. Well, they had singles before. No, but I would put out singles that weren't out. You would control the singles. I would send them to the DJs to make you buy

the album. Right. All games have changed tremendously. Right. That's why I changed games. Right. Hmm. Now, one thing we was talking about was a lot of people don't realize you wasn't even in colors.

No. Who didn't realize that? There's a lot of people who would swear that Ice-T was in colors. Yo, I loved you in colors. I'm like, nigga, I was not in colors.

I mean, he was technically with the music and the song was so big You want to hear this color story Go on Color story is like this I was already signed to Warner Brothers I was early signed to Warner Brothers

It was a Warner Brothers movie So they wanted to use a song I wrote I had the thunder brought in for my For my interview. For my interview to keep it gothic. So,

oh, so Warner Brothers had the movie, so they wanted to use Squeeze the Trigger for the movie, because it was like a hardcore record at the time to be in a gangbanger movie so i knew that if someone wants to use your your record in a movie i told nori this yesterday you can ask to see the movie if you're an artist out there and they say they want to put your movie

in your song in any movie you can as a publisher say i need to see the movie i don't know if i want my record involved in this particular movie or where they're going to place it in the movie. You know, they might want to place it in some bullshit. You're like, nah, that ain't cool. Fuck that. I wanted the money. I wasn't going to turn it down, but I played the card. I need to see the movie. Right. So we went to see colors. Private screening. Private screening. It was fake to me because the mexicans don't fight the blacks in la if that ever happened it would be the apocalypse second thing that that scene where they play colors where the crips and the bloods meet in the in the county county jail it can't happen right by the time you get to that point you in the jumpsuits and the bloods and

crypts never come connected because the crypts is like in 3800 they're different modules they put them in so that was fake you know they had on the colors they spanging on that was that was mount movie shit so i got past that i said well who did this who did this title song? And they say Rick James. Right. Because that's still on the soundtrack to Rick James. Yeah, yeah. Hunt down the Colors soundtrack, go to the last song on the B side, and it's a song by Rick James called Everywhere I Go. Colors.

Look at all these colors. You know, Rick James, come on, man. So I was like, Rick James, you the nigga, but this is not your area. So that expertise. So now I'm riding home with Africa Islam. We saw it. And I said, man, we're going to make a title song.

We literally went right from the screen into the studio. Now, at the time I was listening, I was vibing off of King Sun. King Sun has a song called Mythological. And Mythological it opens, says, when I get ill, it's a reason, cause it's duck season, hunter of the fronter. Here I come. I am

a nightmare walking, psychopath talking, king of my jungle. Just again, I'm rocking that Cadence of King Sun shit. And then we just put the record together, and so I turn it in, and they flip. Oh, this is incredible. It's incredible, and

I got an MTV award for it. That record's not on any Ice-T albums, and it went platinum, triple platinum, some bullshit, but it's one of the... Most of my big hits were soundtracks. When I did New Jack City.

Yeah, that's an incredible record. When I did New Jack City, I wanted to do the song for that. But I'm like, I'm like. Nino's, what is it? Nino thing. I called it Nino's thing. Right, okay. So I was like, I can't really do Scotty's song because he's police.

So I'll do Nino's thing. So George Jackson, rest in peace, was the producer. Ah, come on, Icy, you know, we'll get somebody else. He wanted you to rhyme from the perspective of the cop? He just didn't know what I could do. Okay. He thought he had to go out and get somebody else to do some gangster shit, like more Nino.

And so I did put that shit there hustler word i pulled the trigger long gripped my teeth sprayed every niggas gone got the blocks sewn arm and dope spots last thing i sweat to suck a punk cop he was like yo this shit is hard so we put the hustler bow that was number one on that album that album went super album went super platinum. Right. So, yeah, I got a lot of, I got a lot of record sales away from my actual albums. Are we going to take another sip to that? Come on.

Yeah. Come on. Let's stay on New Jack City for a second. Do you know how classic that movie was? And when you making it, was making it, two part question. Did he know?

Did you know he was making a classic? No, it was a low budget film and mario van people's right mario van people's directing it right and everybody in it was new jacks well wesley had only done major league wesley had only done major league and i think a spike lee joint chris rock was the hottest street comedian i mean he wasn't big chris rock yeah i was the first time i lee joint chris rock was the hottest street comedian i mean he wasn't big chris rock yeah the first time i ever seen chris rock i was just a rapper you know and um i believed he was a crackhead i mean that's good acting i didn't know i didn't know like i thought that's what he was right so they figured well i see it's so millions of records maybe that'll translate plus they wanted somebody a little gangster and somebody a little political, right?

Right. But they were more concerned with me being able to go undercover and fool Nino Brown than actually playing the police. See, you could teach a player how to play a square, but you can't teach a square how to play a player. They can't pull it off. So it was more important when I got around Nino that Nino could believe I was actually live with him. That part where I'm in the pool, I go, I got you back. You dig what I'm saying? So I was

dirty like that. I got him. But everybody, during that movie, Nori, we were huddling. Like, we were doing a scene and everybody would huddle and like what do you think you know it was because everything and the movie was five million dollars at the end they got a completion bond for two more million it cost seven million dollars to

make new jack city seven million you make they shoot videos like yeah it was it was a it was a very uh interesting procedure working with wes wesley was dope right here's a funny story so we we go into the reading we're going to read right so me and chris rock are new so we walk in and wesley snipes come in and the motherfucker got a leather. His his his script is in a leather bound folder, opens it up, notes on every page. Me and Chris Ross Chris had folded up in our back pocket. We're like, oh, shit, this is a real actor. Like, oh, shit. We were nervous. Motherfucker. But Wes, Wes was with us. And you don't know you're making a classic movie

at the time you know you don't know that but mario did his thing right could there be a new jack city too no i don't think so because it was an era movie about an era yeah but what if nino brown oh no no they've been back then there was supposed to be a Nino, too. Like Nino Brown's son, or maybe before he came, Nino Brown. Some shit you should know. Or an updated version. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just something.

They try to do Superfly. How you going to do Superfly without a nigga with a perm? You know, you can't Ron O'Neal. Oh, yo, priest. You know, that's it. Yo, man, I got to get out the game. I got to ice a motherfucker. One of these motherfuckers ice me.

I live off of that line, right? But New Jack City, we had the potential to do part two. All right. But I got in trouble with Cop Killer and Wesley. Wesley went and did Demolition Man. And they paid him like $7 million. That's when he got the burgundy blonde hair? Yeah, but he got the bag.

So once he got the bag, he can't come back and play with us in the street no more. He elevated. And then I got in trouble. Yeah, but the New Jack City Part 2, Wesley wasn't supposed to die. Wow. Is New Jack City based on a true of, like, a true story?

It's based on a lot of people. The guy out of Frisco who had a dope, well, internal situation. He had a building where you would buy the drugs and do the drugs in the same place. I wish I could remember the guy's name, but it was Famous Hustler. So it's kind of based on that. But no, no. San Francisco. No, no.

I was just saying it was based out of the. You know, Nicky Barnes, Nicky Barnes. No, no, Nicky Barnes, neither. It's a Frisco Hustler. Oh, that's crazy. But, you know. No, Nikki Barnes neither. Damn. It's a Frisco hustle. That's crazy. But, you know, it doesn't really matter. It's probably, I mean, I can't, it probably had a little bit of everything.

Yeah. Because they were implementing other, you know, Nino was a mixture of all drug dealers put together. So I cannot say that. But I know that the actual Carter. Yeah, the main, okay. Was based on something that was happening up in Frisco. People used to say it was like showing from Potter. But people used to say

I'm telling you. Like you're pushing this. Yeah, you're pushing it. I mean, you know, the thing of it is people have all kinds of ideas about what happened, but being on the ground in the movie, if you probably do research right now and find out, go and check.

The internet has it all. Felix Mitchell. See? Just Google it, Mr. Lee. Felix Mitchell. If you check his hustle, you'll see he had that type of thing going. And they build off of that.

They build off of that. Take a little drug dealership from this guy, from that. It's all influence. They did the same with Scarface. It was a bunch of people that they created to make Scarface the character.

They use it as influence. Based on him. So New Jack City, at the time, you're a gangster rapper making gangster music. How do you study for that role? How do you do the,

it's because it's the exact opposite of what you represent and who you are. So how do you do that? I was scared, Norrie. I was scared. Like I said, I thought it was career suicide. But then I got all my people saying, man, this is a chance. Right. There's no studying.

You just act. Acting is make-believe. It's act. Anybody anybody in here we all have had enough experience with the cops you can act like a cop like when i'm on new york when i'm on law and order right before i do the scene i just go asshole asshole asshole and then i talk down to you but dig this playing a cop and playing a gangster is the exact same acting exact same acting wait say that again

playing a cop and playing a gangster is the exact same acting we both got a gun we both got an attitude we both want answers or there will be a consequence and we talk to you in that manner so And we talk to you in that manner.

See? So the police talk to you, they talk down to you like, motherfucker, you finna answer my motherfucking question. I am the law. The gangster's like, fuck you. But it's the same exact energy. Right. Demand respect. It's the same. So like when you see me on Law & Order

and I'm interrogating somebody, I don't necessarily have to think about being a cop. I was like, this motherfucker has an answer I need to get. And I'm leaning across them just like Ice-T would. You know, I'm this nigga. What's happening? And then, but now I'm even worse than a gangster because I got the law. Right. You know, so I can do whatever the fuck I want to you.

So it's the same acting. I remember when I was live, when cats had too much ego, we knew they were the cops. Like if we was with somebody and be like, homie, don't care. He seems a little bit too much. Like he ain't worried. He's not. He got his hammer on him. He's always talking shit. He's the police because, you you know he had no fear and they usually were

and you brought that into the role that it's me you know it's me it's it's i think i think I think the key of the key of acting is casting, you know? So you want to cast a tough guy. You pretty much want to find somebody who at some point is tough and can put that in there on that, you know? So I don't know what I bring to the role, but whatever it is,

people dig it. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know, man, I don't know what the fuck it is when you're acting, you're just doing it. You know what I'm saying? So, I don't know, man. I don't know what the fuck it is. When you're acting, you're just doing it. See, the thing of it is, you can't say you're a great actor. The audience has to say it.

They got to believe it. So, whatever I'm doing is working. Let's say that. Let's say that. Let's say that Let's say that Speaking of great actors You got to work with Denzel Washington How the fuck was that?

Denzel was so dope First thing Denzel did was he came to my trailer And he zeroed out He became really cool He was talking to me as a friend And stuff And he's telling me stories because I guess

later on I figured it out. You can't just hit the stage and work with Denzel Washington if he's like this. If me and you got to play best friends, we got to, or I'm always going to be like, I'm on the stage. I'm acting with Denzel. You start,

so he kind of chilled with me and talked to me, told me about his life, being on television, some personal things because I had to play his friend. I never forget the first time I sat with him, Nori. I sat and we did a scene and he's telling jokes and shit.

They said action. Denzel jumped in character. He said his shit and I flubbed my lines. He was like, come on ice. Like, let's go. I'm like, Oh,

I see what you're doing. You dribbling between your legs. You showing me that you can go from this to that quick. And at that point I said, I want to learn how to act like that. See, the thing of it is with acting, anything,

nobody is anything. You're not born anything. You become a basketball player. You start off as a fan. We aren't rappers. We taught ourselves how to rap. You're not anything. So you can do anything if you're willing to take the time to learn how to do it. But you got to want to do it. If I want you to act and you never really wanted to act, you're not going to get it. But if you wanted to and you're willing to do it, but you got to want to do it. If I want you to act and you never really wanted to act, you're not going to get it. But if you wanted to and you're willing to apply yourself, you can do it. You know, nobody's a concert pianist.

You practice. So once you get that understanding, you can pretty much be what you want to be because nobody is anything at birth. We all started off fans. I started off listening to Melly Mel and them. I'm like, yo, how they rhyme those words together? And I try to practice.

You start off, you whack. You got to start somewhere. And then you get better. I want to play you a clip. You got the clip? Yeah. Oh, shit. But you got some fat baby mama

about you what kind of sidetrack shit is this play the clip what clip I thought we was homies yeah yeah oh yeah yeah Oh yeah True It was a crazy story So I walked up to her and I was like, bro, all due respect, I once, we

talked about this for a really long time. You know what? I don't know. And then she called over and we were just having an interview. And she looked at me and smiled. And she turned around and bent the thing over and I grabbed as much of her head as I could.

You found? I'm trying to figure out who's more gay. I'm trying to figure out who's more gay. You want to know what the back story? Yeah. It was Halloween. Did he say that? Yeah, he said Yeah. It was Halloween. Did he say that? Yeah, he said that. It was Halloween.

Halloween party, I think he said. It was a Halloween party. I've been knowing Neo. I like Neo. Uh-huh. You know, I seen him when he first started, and I've always been a fan. And also, I was inspired by a young kid making his moves. So, me and Neo had a cool relationship.

So, we at the party and stuff. And it's Halloween. So all the girls are extra ho-ish, right? It's extra ho-ish. So Coco had on some like booty shorts with the fishnets and shit. And so he's in the booth with us. He didn't just walk up. He was hanging and stuff. And Coco and then in the booth with us. He didn't just walk up. He was hanging and stuff. And

Coco and them, Rihanna was there too. Coco and them was dancing. They don't invite us to these parties. Coco and them was dancing and I know the nigga was just like gazing like yo. I mean, there was a lot of ass in the air.

It was hypnotized. It was happening. So then he was like, he did the player shit. He said, Iceman, I always wanted to touch Coco's. See, he changed the word. He said he didn't say grab her ass. He said, I just want to touch Coco's booty. Could I do that? Now, I was like, that was the kind of player that he asked.

You know, that's the kind of player that he asked. He didn't ask to finger banger. He didn't ask to fuck her. He didn't ask to sucker titty. He didn't ask to fuck her. He didn't ask to suck her titty. He asked to touch her butt, right? So I'm like, you know what, player? I can make that happen. I can make that happen.

So I said, Coco, Neo won't touch your booty. Let Neo touch your booty. She's like, okay. You know, she's following instructions. Yo, I say, wow. So she bends over. He touches her butt like that. I'm like, it's like Make okay. She's following instructions. I say, wow. So she bends over. He touches her butt like that. It's like Make-A-Wish kid.

You know what I mean? Now, the fact that Neo felt it was appropriate to bring this up in a Drink Champs interview, that was something maybe he should have kept to himself. But I'm not mad at him because that makes me know that was a moment champs interview. That was something maybe he should have kept to himself. You know, but I'm not mad at him because that makes me know that was a moment in his life.

You know, that was a moment in his life. It was a great moment. You know what I'm saying? Now, everybody watching, don't see me out with Coco and ask for a button. Get to Neo's level first. You know, celebrity buttons. But no, it was some player shit.

And we was in a player mode that night. You know, everybody, it was fly. Sometimes it's fly like that. So what did you dress up as? I don't know what I was dressed up. I think we was on some S&M shit that night. I had on some leather, an ill vest, probably a ball gag. Seriously.

On some old decadent shit. We love Halloween. Women love Halloween because it's a night they can be freely ho-ish. Everything. Oh, you want to be a school teacher? Sexy school teacher. Whatever it is. Doctors say sexy. That's a chance and nobody can say

nothing about it. That's a night. They let it out. It's okay. And players dig it. Guys are like, that's cool. I never had a problem with my girl being sexy. I'm like, you don't drive a Ferrari with the cover on it. You didn't. Some people do.

That's cool. You know what I'm saying? Hey, wrap them up. That's your thing. Right. But, you know, like, does your wife have stalkers? Has she ever had a stalker? but you know like does your wife have stalkers has she ever had a stalker

now my daughter had a stalker your daughter not my little daughter my older daughter how did that go well let's go back to Coco we had a couple one situation we had we had an apartment and we move.

And so we go to the apartment and it's a car following us. And so we stop at Target and stuff. Yeah, we still shop at Target. We keep, we at Target. Target, not Target. Motherfuckers think that some point humans leave the planet. Like, we don't eat a Taco Bell

or we don't... Like, motherfucker, he goes to Target. Like, what the fuck if you need Target shit? Where do you go if you need Target type shit? They don't...

One time somebody said, yo, you eat at Denny's? You eat at IHOP? I'm like, is there a Gucci egg I'm missing? Is there some egg someplace? I don't know what the fuck I'm supposed to do a gucci egg is there some egg someplace i don't know what the fuck i'm supposed to do for breakfast the egg is a fucking egg so anyway we had we had target

and and she says she sees the motherfuckers in the store right and so i'm like where's so when we come out she says isn't there yet then i escalate so i'm like all right cool so we can go and she had to go to this nail spot right so we pull up and they pull out right so i'm like okay we finna do this now at this time i'm not armed but they don't know that right so i i walk over to them i'm like what's happening they're like oh wait a minute we just we just paparazzis i'm like yeah nigga fall back i said stop following me stop following me man stop playing no no we could they thought i had the hammer i was like this i did my shit you know so they they fell back But that was just one situation. My daughter, she lives in Atlanta. And, you know, my daughter's grown.

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You know, if you want to be on OnlyFans, stick a refrigerator in your pussy. You could do that too. Jesus. You know what I'm saying? You could do anything. But what you do, you put a page up and say, this is not a porn site. Right. You know what I'm saying? You can do anything, but what you do, you put a page up and say, this is not a porn site. Blah, blah, yeah.

She makes quite a bit of money on that motherfucker. I understand why chicks don't want to work once they go on there. They're just like, why would I work when I can make $60,000, whatever. It's a lot, because it's subscriptions. But the thing of it is

it's like, the chick has to set their limits. Like Iggy Azalea's on there. But she does just swimsuit shit. But she made like 600,000. Yeah, she made crazy red on there. So, you know, you could be on that. But I mean, it's, honestly it makes more sense than Instagram.

But. You know what I'm saying? Because you're getting paid. You get paid. You have subscribers, and then you have paid, and then you also put up stuff and you make them pay. But, you know, it is what it is. Maybe this will help you get some more money. Right. People say,

well, you don't need the money. I say, when do you not need the money? When do you not need the money? Like, you know, it's a hustle, man. Me and my wife are hustlers. Right. These flowers, man. God damn it. You listen, our show is about giving people

flowers while they're here. You know, so many people say that after 10 years you washed up. We do not say that. We say that our season, we want to give you flowers. And you drink chance to alumni soon. Yeah, man. I mean, at the end of the day,

I think one thing about Ice-T, and I think what people will figure out about me is that Ice is going to do what the fuck he wants to do. You know? Let me put it up here where the camera can see. I want the camera to see this. It's just real player-ass do. Right. You know? And I understand. Let me put it up here where the camera can see. I want the camera to see this.

It's just a real player-ass shit. Yes. Snoop said it's better than a Grammy because it comes from his people. You know what I'm saying? Real talk. Goddamn it.

Make some noise. Yo, you see rolling that weed? This is good. But nah, man, you know. It's the Nino Brown weed too, by the way. We can't, one thing we can't forget is that

that you helped pioneer the space that we're in now as well yeah I had a podcast my first podcast is called the final level podcast and me and Mickey did it Mickey Benson yeah Mickey Benson I did 55 episodes they're available

on some place, some platform. But it wasn't... My time, I couldn't do it. So I started doing it at my house. Right. So I'd do one person. But then if you're at my house, you stay all day. So it would take over the day. And I would do it on Saturday.

So that burnt me out. Then I tried to do two a month. Same thing. Busta came over, Raekwon came over, all that. Then I was like, I can't do it in my house no more. Because it was just, the homies come over to crib and they just lounge out. They like, after the podcast, what's on TV? Turn on the game. I was like, yo, this is crazy. So then I tried to do them on Monday nights after Law & Order.

But we were in the same studio, Tax Zone, when it was in, we were up there. Loudspeaker. Yeah. It was cool, but no disrespect, but I kind of interviewed everybody I wanted to talk to. After about 50 people, I'm like, I really don't really want to talk to people.

Now, now they want content, and I'm like, they're getting these people, and I'm like, well, they're getting these people. I'm like, I'm not even interested in them. I don't give a fuck. So I did all my homies. I didn't do Nori, but I did all the homies. And then at that time,

podcasts, you make money based on how many views. You have ads. It wasn't really lucrative enough. I was giving all the money to mick and i just said man i gotta pull a plug on this my i can't it wasn't it needs to be a full time gig so you know but i understand i know what this is it's cool and it's fun but i mean

fortunately you guys have created a space where someone can come and talk comfortably and it's not with the bullshit. What made you even start a podcast? Like, because, you know, you were doing on Internet. You were doing on Internet radio first. Let me just tell you how we say it. We say that Juan Ep was the first hip hop podcast, but Ice-T was the first artist based podcast. So you like the cool herka of this shit, just in case you don't know. A lot of people don't know, but they say those who say

don't know and those who know don't say. So I... I'm going to tell you this, Nori, and this is the... I really didn't like asking people questions. You dig it? I found out at the end of it, I much prefer for you to ask

me questions than to me. I just felt like I just didn't like it after a while. You know, it's not my thing. You got to find your thing. You got to find your thing. Just prying into motherfuckers' lives was not my thing. I was like, nah,

I'm cool. Plus, you're making too much law and order money. That was me. Well, that too, that's when I'm saying it wasn't lucrative enough. Like you said, I'm making a lot of money over the week. Then I come up here and I do this

and it was time. And then I have a baby daughter. It wasn't paying off. So I was like, eh. Now, I mean, now if I was doing it, you guys are taking it to another level. But at the time, it wasn't making that much money. We thank you anyways, because you did pioneer the space. Well, Rosenberg and them Krog, so you could walk, so me and Irvin could fly.

I was happy when I saw you doing it, because I'm like, this is a good thing. I always felt that our culture should be reported on by our own culture. You know, I think one of the key parts of the death of hip hop was the source magazine going left. Right. And, you know, at one moment,

all of a sudden public enemy wasn't hip. Right. KRS wasn't hip. You and Benzino, the first time we, um, interviewed you, you and Benzino had just seen each other,

right? Beef TV. Let me tell you, I'm going to take a beef. Yes. Yeah. Tell us about that Our fans from back then know

But these are new fans we have Beef TV Okay this is what happened I'll tell the true story What happened was When I got in trouble At Warner Brothers And Cop Killer hit the fan And they got rid of shit, Benzino, RSO, got caught in that shit.

Oh, wow. They got caught in that tailspin of they dropping gangster rap. Oh, wow. Now, body counts metal. Right. But it also affected Death Row or whatever aftermath. Remember, they were getting ready to do a deal and then it fell back through because they pulled out. Warner pulled out. Something happened. It's not see the lowest tuck of time, right? No, no, no.

It was after see Dolores Tucker. But my shit created a like a wave that fuck with a lot of people. So Benzino being Benzino in them went in some fuck iced tea shit. Like I folded I folded up to Warner Brothers. I don't even really know you Benzino. I'm not even, I don't I have nothing to do with you. I didn't tell them

fuck, get rid of them. I'm I did my shit. I'm doing my shit. He went on one Of course everybody hears anybody You got niggas Yo man who are these niggas they talking crazy So I'm like

I don't know where they from Boston So I don't know who they are But whatever right we LA Right so Benzino comes to LA So I'm deep Right I'm at one of they situations. I can leave the house. It's a sore situation you're saying?

I don't know. It was an event. Okay. Nori, I can leave the house by myself. By the time I get to a vent, it's 30 niggas. Right. Yo, we with ice. Yo, we with a...

Right? Because everybody wants to not only get in the vent, they know if niggas. Yo, we with Ice. Yo, we with Ice. Right? Because everybody wants to not only get in the vent, they know if they're with me, they're coming in. So we deep. Yo, that's them niggas over there. Ice, who? Benzino. Word? Go holler at him.

I walked over to him and he saw them people. That nigga was like, yo, man, this my bad. And we shook hands and that was it. But I think, what did he tell you? Same story? No, no, no. Remember, y'all was together.

The last time we recorded. In New York. Yeah. No, but that was before the situation. There was a situation with me and Benzino. I kind of, yeah, I've heard him say it in an interview. He said, he and him kind of walked up on me. I think he did say it one time on here before.

Yeah, we would see. But it wasn't an altercation. It was just like, me, myself, I like to clarify shit. If you say something about it, I don't take it. I'm going to walk up to you effing, well, what am I hearing? Is this true? No. No?

Okay, cool. You know, even if you said it, if you're not man enough to repeat it, I'll take that. Right, right. I'll just say, all right, cool. But if it is, let's figure it out. And I'm always the bigger man. What did I do to you? What's the matter?

Right. What happened? You know, everybody wants conflict. My name's Ice. My name's not Bullet. My name is Ice. I'm's not Bullet. My name is Ice. I'm about smoothing things out. And I think my whole life has always been squashing beef.

You know? That's it. Anybody can start it. You know, you got to have certain energy to stop it. Let's take it back, though. I want to go back a little bit. Okay. Uncle Jam's Army.

Okay. Talk about that. What is that collective? How could I compare it to New York? Uncle Jam's Army was the first promotional company in L.A. that did parties for kids 16 to 20. So there was a big market of people that couldn't get into clubs.

So they would throw events at different halls with DJs. They, at some point, were able to do the LA Sports Arena by themselves. Egyptian Lover was a DJ. Bobcat, who worked with LL Cool J. Battlecat, who's still out with Snoop. Arabian Prince was part of Egypt's crew. Was Poo in it?

DJ Poo. All them worked with Uncle Jam's army. And that's what they was known for. They were the biggest promoters and they would do the L.A. sports arena. No acts, just music. First raves like black raves. I'll never forget one night we were there, and they had an 808 drum machine, and no one had ever seen a drum machine. And they put the drum machine on, and they were like,

Uncle Jam's Army is about to go live, live. And they put the beat on, and they held the records in the air. And the audience was like what where's that music coming from and they held the drum machine up and that new york 808 has a light that shoots by it the crowd went crazy they're screaming over a drum machine it's like yo and they used to let me rap i was the only person they would let rap and you know i was still up and coming learning how to rap and this is early la scene this is what is a world-class wrecking crew happening around this time not that's before

wrecking before that wow for wrecking crew dre and them was wrecking crew they i've seen dre and them uh and do those see dre and them is from compton right la cats don't go to compton right compton compton would be like in new York, like it would be East New York. Compton's far. It's like 20 miles out of L.A., south central where we're from. So, you know, you can own a horse in Compton. You can ride. You can have donkeys and pigs and shit. Compton's like the country. But the threat of Compton niggas is they come to L.A. and get down and then go back, and you never see them again in your life. So that's Compton. People in Compton don't usually come past Manchester.

That's a whole other thing. And then when N.W.A. came out, people were like, oh, you from Compton? I said, no, I'm from South Central. South Central where the riots popped up. That's where I'm from. So Dre and them was playing in Dudos, and we went. Now, Watts? No, no, Watts is separate. Watts is another up. Right. That's where I'm from. So Dre and them was playing in Dudos. Yeah, Watts? No, no, Watts is separate.

Watts is another area. Okay. Watts is the area that's mostly projects. Okay. So if you talk Watts, you're talking about PJ Watts, Imperial Courts, Dickinson Gardens, and Grape Street. Right. Jordan Downs.

Right. Those four big projects over there. Right. So that was the first riot, the home of the Watts riot back in the day. Anyway, I seen Dre and them playing at Dudos and stuff back in the day.

I've always been cool with Dre. I've always been cool with Cube. N.W. Not. See, I had two albums out before N.W.A. Dropped They dropped on my third album

So we would go out and tour together Me, Eazy D.O.C We're all friends Ren, we're all friends What type of person Eazy E was? Because obviously Eazy was crazy but Eazy was a cool ass Dude, the trip person Eazy-E was? Because obviously... Eazy was crazy, but Eazy

was a cool-ass dude. The trip with Eazy was he convinced people he was 15. Yeah, one of his records, he said something about him being young. So people used to think he was young, but he wasn't young. And my favorite Eazy-E story

was Ice Cube would write the rhymes. Ice Cube would write the rhymes, that I say. So Cube was talking to me. Cube was like, yo, I wrote that. I didn't think he'd say it. Because he's actually outing himself. Well, he's saying it, but Eazy didn't care. Because Eazy wasn't really the rapper.

He was the money behind. He was the genius that saw hip-hop was going to come someplace. He had his little you know drug money easy wasn't moving kilos he was just on the street hustling but he had enough to get him in a record store and he was the brains yeah he had foresight for sure he yeah easy me and easy was cool we never had shared a uh angry word me dre all of us all solid ice cube solid you know uh and was it arabian prince so he was in uncle jams and then he was down with yeah the beginnings of nwa nwa was candy man uh uh arabia candy man was a part of any man was if you look at the first album they're all standing there nwa and the

posse that one yeah candy man was but not part of N.W.A. Right. Just like. But it was all part. J.J. Phat. All that stuff. And then they just started to morph and morph and morph into, you know, the world's most dangerous group. I knew when I heard Straight Outta Compton, it was a rap.

That day. What's the line that Ice Cube said that you think made it gangsta rap? Straight out of Compton. Crazy motherfucker named Ice Cube from the gang called Niggas With Attitude. So up to that point, they was calling what I was doing reality. I'm like, it's not reality because it's not everybody's reality. It's my reality. We didn't have a name for it.

And then when he said gangsters the press called it gangster rap the press called it because we said this on here and people were like no no the artist said no the press did it press called it gangster rap cube just said from the gang called niggas with attitudes they said it's gangster rap so me i fell back and said oh okay if this is gangster rap i'm the original gangster. That's where OG came from. So OG didn't come from the hood. No, it did, but it just fell in place. OG

is a term for first generation set. The first generation of whatever's set. So if we drank Champ, we drank track, if we drank Champ's crips, y'all niggas the OGs You the originals of the set

The new kids would be the baby gangsters But the OGs are the founders of the set Right Also LA term OG means anything original Right The original 501 Levi's The original Chuck Taylor's

The original Shelto That's them OG The first is OG. Can you fight your way up to being an OG? Well, you'll be an OG once you put in enough time. Now it just refers to being an old school cat that's done some things.

Like I refer to everybody in here as an OG. They're not new gangsters. But the term comes from LA gangs. So I took it and it flipped it, you know, but then if you look at that album cover, I also, I got myself in shackles, but then I got myself in a tux, which is saying I'm the same nigga. Like,

even if you see me, you know, suited, don't get it fucked up. Right? So that's what it was. So that's where the OG album came from. And that was supposed to be a double album. Wow. The first double album? Yes.

But it was a double album motivated by N.W.A. Wow. Because, you dig, I'm out here. I do Rhyme Pays. i do power they drop boom i'm like nigga i gotta get to work right they dropped you after that no no no i do the first one okay i do the second one and then here comes godzilla straight out of comps and yo i'm like yo nwa is really like live yo nigga we gotta go in the studio right the homWA is really like live. Yo, nigga, we got to go in the studio, right? The homies is really getting it in. So I made a double album at that point, motivated by the power of them.

They, you know, like I said early, hey, it wasn't hate, but it was like somebody else is in the room. Right now, nigga, you got to go and earn your stripes. So I had to drop heavy. You dig? You were going to say that you remember the first time you heard straight out of compton yeah it's i it felt like godzilla walked in the room right i was like yo because remember we was out on tour they had dope man because easy came out first right yeah but easy didn't shake me up easy does it i And Eazy, like, you know, the way Eazy rap, he ain't cute.

Right, right. Or Ren. Ren is incredible. The ruthless villain. You know, anytime I pull an AK off the shelf, you know, I was like, woo-hoo, woo-hoo. These niggas like. Ren is a beast.

I was like, yo, they turned it up. They turned it up. Right. And I had to, but then my thing was, as Ice-T is like, okay, NWA is taking it that way. I got to take it this way. Like, I got to not, I can't go out and bang bang with them. So I'll just keep it player and hustler as much as I could, you know. So that was a conscious decision you made to say say i'm not going to try to be in that

same lane i'll always try to find my own lane right you're a fool to go down the same lane somebody else is doing you got to find your originality you got to find what is what are you what what you are right you know and me i was a different breed I was never in a gang. I'm not a gangbanger, but I grew up amongst gangs. I'm not a bully, but I defend myself. I'm an orphan. So, you know, like I was telling you, we were the cats with the Fila shorts on, the socks, the sweaters, you know, tennis racket. But we had an Uzi, you know? That's who we were with the perms.

That's who we were, you know? So it was no sense. They pulled up on some real gangbanger shit. I was like, okay. So cool, but it's all love. It was love. I was happy for NWA because I was happy to have help.

On the West. I was by myself for a long time. And at the time, I remember people making fun of the S-curl. But that's an S-curl. I had a perm. Don't get it fucked.

I had a perm. Don't get it fucked up. That was a jerry curl. That's a jerry. That's what Cube had. One that drips. Yeah. Fuck up my silk. Fuck up my shit.

My material. Wait, did you have a jerry curl or an S curl? It was a jerry curl. Same thing. You call it an S curl. The little ones. Instead of Puerto Rican, if you're Puerto Rican, you call it an S curl. Got it.

All right, no. My shit was permanent. Mine was magnetic rollers, a lot of body. You know what I'm saying? Pull it out, them shits be crackling, then the girl push the waves in.

You know, that shit had to be right. You know, but it's different shit. You know, Big Worm had a perm. Yeah. Friday. Friday. Yeah, Friday, yeah. I thought Big Worm, well, shit was bald. No, no, he had I thought Big Warren, she was bald.

No, no, he had his curlers, right? Oh, okay, yeah, I'm bugging, I'm bugging, I'm bugging. With the hairnet? I used to go to junior high, I mean, not high school, homeroom when my curlers still in. L.A. shit is different, wearing house shoes. And then in nutrition, let the girls take my curls out. You want to play quick time with Scott?

Yeah, let's go. Let's do it. Explain to him the rules. Yeah. Oh, shit. We're going to give you two choices. You pick one. We're good.

Nobody's drinking. I mean, I don't know if he's taking shots or not. No, I'm fucking with this. This is nice. This is nice. Take sips of that. This is very sophisticated. If you say both

or neither so that politically correct, if you don't pick an answer, then we drinking. I don't care. Okay. You want me to go first? Let's play the game. Let's go.

I'm submitted to your game. Let's go. LL or Big Daddy Kane? You can say Y if you want to. Both. I wasn't ready. Both. They both super rappers.

Oh, this is going to be interesting. Snoop Dogg or Jay-Z? Wow. Let me get ready. They're so different. It's whatever criteria in your mind if you pick. I just got to go with Snoop Dogg. Okay.

West Coast and you had to go there. No, I'm going with Snoop. I think Snoop is the biggest rapper in the history of the world. I think that even though Jay-Z's bagged up rich, I think more people, parents, kids, will recognize Snoop Dogg. You don't think Snoop is the most famous rapper in the world? That's what he said. That's what he just said. I think... I thought he said it in his way.

In the world, I think he's loved the most. He's transcended more different elements. And everybody loves Snoop Dogg. Yeah, we agree. You know, Jay-Z is a superpower, but some people might not know who Jay-Z is. If they would... You know, it's Snoop.

Snoop is a motherfucker. And we love Snoop. Can you go anywhere and people not recognize you? Yeah. Yeah? I could go... fame is kind of like think of it like being a tennis player. You could be the number one in the world

but if you're not into tennis you just walk right by. You know what I'm saying? So television has made me far more visible. And Coco is another one. So it's like the one-two punch. Like me and Coco have this thing called I should've known

What should've known is Like say if we're at an airport And somebody's checking out Coco They be checking her out And then they'll see me They go, should've known Should've known he gonna be there Yeah, if you see a hot chick

Check around her There should be something else floating near her So yeah Ice Cube or Scarface? Wow If you see a hot chick, check around her. There should be something else floating near her. So, yeah. Ice Cube or Scarface? Wow. They're so similar. Both.

They're both. Take a sip. Both. Switch to the shots. I used to go on the road when we first were touring when we did Dope Jam Tour. Ghetto Boys would, you know what pay to play is? They would,

they would like, they would pay, Jay Prince would get them on the front of our show. Like, you know, like, cause they would, and they would rip shit. And I remember us calling Mr. Scarface.

And Scarface would walk around and, like, throw crack in the audience. Like, he had little packets. He was showing shit. That's different. Them niggas was ill. He had the cane and shit. No, that's different. I might be wrong, but I remember he was throwing packets.

It wasn't real crack, but it was like he was acting like it. You know, it was part of the show. But I was like, yo, who are these Texas-ass niggas? These niggas is ill. Ghetto Boys was ill with Bushwick.

They was ill. They were a solid gangster rapper, hardcore rapper ever. Willie D, all of them, when they would go, come on, man, stop it. And Scarface, to me, deeply rooted. That album he just did, that made me want to make a new album. He's one of the most lyrical artists out there. Yeah, but him and Cube have a similar type get down.

Yeah, I love them both. Okay, so you said both. All right. Jadakiss or Nas? I don't like this question. Y'all keep repeating this. Jadakiss or Nas? Both.

Oh, Jesus. You're making us drink. Both. Both are lyrical beasts. A lot of these guys, like I look at people that I think can out rap me. I think everybody in hip hop, I look at hip hop like a basketball game. I know who got the jumpers. I know who got handles. But everybody has a place on the court. You know? So I might not be able to out rap Nas, but I can say some shit flyer than Nas.

So I'm going to hit you with some fly shit. World renowned as the king of the fly rhyme. You know, if I was dope, you could step on me five times. So those two rappers are Lyrical beasts And uh

You just listen to them for the punch rhymes I love Nas I met Nas with You know This humble Super guys Frank White or Nino Brown Well I have to go with Frank White even though he turned into a snitch Nino did too But Nino Brown? Well, I have to go with Frank White, even though he turned into a snitch. Nino did, too.

But Nino was a... Frank White was a real person. Right. Nino Brown ain't shot nobody or sold no dope. Yeah, Nino Brown was based on... Nino Brown is Wesley Snipes. He's a character. So how would I pick the character over the real nigga?

Wait, Frank White ain't that from King of New York? Yeah. That was based on a real person? Oh, I'm thinking of... Who did Gen Z play? Oh, you're thinking of American Gangster. You're thinking of Frank Lucas. Yeah, I was, too.

I was thinking of Frank Lucas, too. No, no, no, no, no, no. My mistake. I was comparing Frank Lewis... Frank White is a made-up motherfucker, too. Yeah. Well, then, of course, it's Nino Brown. Okay, yeah.

That's what I was... It's Nino Brown. I can't fuck with Wesley. No, we fucked you up. I was thinking Frank Lucas, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, of course, it's Nino Brown. Okay, yeah. It's Nino Brown. I can't fuck with Wesley. No, we fucked you up. I never liked you. Cancel that bitch. I'll get another one. He said, I never liked that pretty motherfucker.

Fucking myself. Yeah, he cool. Yeah, okay, cool. Okay, I was thinking about Frank Lucas. Okay, yeah, no. Okay. Kares, one or Rakim? It's so totally different.

I'll pick Rakim only because Rakim really changed the way that we all started rapping. Right. Like, I didn't understand the term flow. Wow. When I heard Rakim and Rakim Chris had care had criminal minded out right but when I was making my first album I had I had never really witnessed a hit record outside of Run DMC and I was in Harlem and every car I came in the door I came in the door I said it before I never let the It was in every single car Every car

Rakim And then the next record came out I take seven MCs Put them in the line I'm like Who is this motherfucker? And early I thought his name was Eric B Right?

Because he just threw My name is Rakim But just the whole theory of how raw rap made me, I got to rap better. And he didn't curse. Well, it didn't matter. Cursing didn't matter to me. It was the flow of his rhyme and the confidence and the comfortableness he set in the beat. Because at one time, everyone was yelling on records. It was different.

Now, hats off to KRS-One, though, because you do not want to go against KRS-Live. Nah, he's one of the best. You'll get destroyed. One of the best. And then he'll teach you a lesson. At the same time. Because Chris is

big. First, he's big. He's a big nigga, like King Sun. He's a big nigga. You'd be like, word? And then he's loud. So he just is everything. He commands the stage. He is a real MC.

Commands the stage. Tupac or DMX? West Coast is going to hate me, but I say DMX. I'm much more of a DMX fan. I love Pac. I was friends with Pac. But I just like the more aggressive shit. You know, when I heard where my dogs at, I was like, yo, who the fuck is this?

I was in a club. I was like, yo. Look at this shit. You know, the Rough Riders. I was in a club. I was like, yo. The rough riders. That's more my shit. I liked that. Pac is a human being. A man is something else.

It was magical. It was like you were sitting with young Malcolm X. But music-wise, DMX was more Ice-T type shit. Let me ask you the next one. DJ Quick or MC8? They was battling for it. They was battling. Even though I just got off the phone with Quick, I gotta

fuck with MC8. Well, let's just say both. Let's go with both on that one. Let's go with both on that one let's go with both they both legends both on that and we need both of them on drink chance yeah we need both on drink chance uh yeah i know you you sing about you say something about pop people want to crucify you i i just i'm well i'm here to be honest, right?

Yeah, please. Rough Riders Anthem. That's just, stop. I was like, DMX, I performed with DMX so many times. It's like, yo. Art of rap? Art of rap and different shit. Just such a, he's like a monster.

He's like a boxer. Mm-hmm. Like, you know, I'm going going to do the show He's going to do the fight I got this ice Come on Here you go Where they at Who's the question Next question

You can go to the next question Beat Street or Break the Street No, no, no I skipped one Oh, no, no, no It was eight Skipped after two No, he said both

I said both He said Quicken, MCA, both But I thought you were Yeah, MCA Going more on Tupac My MCA My favorite lyric Where he said

He told a homeboy I'm the neighborhood rapper He said I'm the neighborhood jacker. One time, gaffled him up. Yeah. Yeah, CMW is a classic. After Tupac.

No, I did. I said Quick and MC. I changed it. Yeah. Oh, that's why. Yeah. Quick. I don't even know what they Became about

You know but yeah Interesting but they both dope And Quick is an incredible producer He's legendary Do the next one too B Street or Breaking 2 B Street Why y'all pick Breaking 2

Fuck Breaking Breaking was really homogenized It was more of a kids movie What's in the end of it? What gives you a break? Fuck breaking. Breaking was really homogenized. It was more of a kid's movie. You know, rest in peace, Shabba Doo. You know, Boogaloo Shrimp. You know, Turbo, Ozone, all that shit. It gave me a break.

It was my first job, really. But it wasn't as dope as Beach Street with New York City Breakers. That scene where they broke in the subway and all that shit and melly-melly. They were slugging with each other. Yeah. It was our version. See, what happened with Breaking was— We thought that was Bloods and Crips. We were in a club called The Radio.

That was a New York club, an L.A. club that had Rocksteady Crew come there, Soul Sonic Force, Cold Crush Brothers. In L.A.? Yeah, and that's where I met Africa Isla. That's crazy. So the producers walked in and seen the scene and said, we're going to make a movie. You'll be on the stage.

These kids will dance. And they just wrote some bullshit story, corny shit. Wow. And, you know, it was them trying to capitalize on a hip-hop movement, but we wasn't enough hip-hop in LA to really do it. New York City was official, so Wildstyle...

This is after Wildstyle, all of this. Wildstyle was first, but Wildstyle and B-Street was way more official than Breaking. Breaking was for kids. It was rainbow colors and bullshit. Wildstyle felt like a reality show, like a real documentary type, because it seemed so real. I was felt like a reality show, like a real documentary type. I was just trying to get some paper and just be in a movie.

I was trying to dress like Mel E. Mel. Trying to be a rapper. Had the spikes. He had the outfit on. I had all that. Who changed my image was Russell Simmons. What did Russell say? We were all that and you know who changed my image was russell simmons what did russell say

uh we were at a club in la and it was a rap show and russell was there and russell and me was chilling and i had on like a feeler sweatsuit some k-swiss had my perm had a little can go bullshit you know and um the whoever the the crap the uh act was they called me on the stage i used to be in the building if i go on the stage and i rap and russell's like that's your look fuck new york like you trying to look like new york you gotta look like la ice that is your look the way you look now the way you dress on a regular he said that's why run bmc looks like jam master j that's how jam master j used to dress he says you're authentic la street shit that's you rock that

and that was the end of me with the new york shit wow that was the birth and then when you see me on the ryan payne's cover i had on the kangolves and the porsche with the girl darlene and my boy and the palm tree. That was all Russell said. You got to represent LA. I mean, you love New York, but you got to hit LA. That's dope. We got to make some noise for Russell.

Russell came to my star, too. Yeah, I know. Russell always gave me some good game. Want to do the next one? Nipsey or Eazy-E? Rest in peace to both. Both. Both? Both.

Take a shot to that. Both. Both legends. Nip had so much left to do. Nip was just getting started. He's a good person. Good soul. You know, it just it just reinforces us that, you know, the safest place you think you are, you at the most risk, you know, like because that's what player always told me. You get hit in your strong spot, player. The place you think you the most secure. That's where you're going to hit. You think you cool with the bitches? You think you get hit in your strong spot player the place you think you the most secure

that's where you're going to hit you think you cool with the bitches you think you got that in check that's where you're going to get hit because you're not guarding that see what i'm saying so those those moments when we feel the most comfortable you're in the most danger even though all of us is here having a good time if the cat cats coming in, they got an advantage on us because we're comfortable. We're not on point. Nip was very comfortable in his neighborhood and it went

wrong. Rest in peace, Nipsey Hussle. He was just getting warmed up. Yep. You can do the next. NWA or Wu-Tang? You skipped one. No, I know, but we said...

NWA or Wu-Tang, both. Okay. Both. Take a sip. Both. Similar energy. I think NWA is two rappers. I always was in awe of Wu-Tang.

Nine MCs? Right. Fuck you do that. Right. Did you just say NWA was two rappers? Two rappers. Yeah. I mean, Eazy would rap with them, but NWA is...

What are you saying? Ren and Q. Yeah, Ren and Q. Yeah, they pretty much wrote... And then Dre and Yellow were... Jay and Rel are the background, and Eazy would jump on occasionally, but those were the two main rappers in N.W.A. Right.

Wu-Tang is nine. Right. You heard the story about me getting surrounded by Wu-Tang? Yeah. Tell us again. Tell us. Please. Y'all heard that story?

Please, please, please. Last night. I'm at an event. I'm at an event in New York City MC Light event right so this is before Wu-Tang it came out I get surrounded I look there's a nigga here there's a nigga here

so I'm like okay my way out is this way I look there's a nigga there nigga there I'm like I'm surrounded yo what up Ice yo we all in this Wu-Tang I think it's a gang I'm from LA like a gang. Yo, what up, Ice? Yo, yo, we've shawlin' this Wu-Tang. I think it's a gang. I'm from L.A. Like, a gang?

Is it over? Is this the moment I fear? Like, should my chain just crawl inside of my, like, you know, like, what the fuck? Like, so they be like, yo, yo, Wu-Wu. I'm like, okay. So what's up? Yeah, we from Shaolin. Yo, we fucks with you.

West Coast hardcore shit. We fuck. I'm like, oh, you like me? They like, yeah. I'm like, oh, hey, Wu-Tang, what's happening? What's happening? But for a moment, the whole room stopped, right? I'm like, yo, they about to, what the fuck? So they told me this. They showed me how to do this shit. I'm like, yo, yo, woo, woo, woo. Like I said, it was the moment I feared. I thought it was going down. And they went off and blah, blah, blah. And later on, now the thing of it is, I can't tell if any of the actual Wu-Tang members were those guys because there was so many of them and I was so scared. Hey, I wanted to. I'm like this, dude.

I'm six feet 220. Two guys, ten guys. I'm about to get stomped the fuck out. I'm like, yo, this is going to go bad. I'm by myself. So, yeah, but they was fans. So, bow. And then I saw the Wu-Tang Clan come out come out i was just always amazed at nine mcs you

could put nine mcs on a record and then each one of them it was like each one of them had a different skill like a kung fu movie you know i like genius the jizza yeah the jizza like i'm like yeah jizza his rhyming shit was you know, super should keep my sword sharp. You know, he was I like that. I love ODB. I like all I like all of them. I think they all even all of them have superpowers. Yeah.

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I mean, y'all, I'm hooked up. I'm going to be able to open up a little store. Drink champ store around this bitch. I'll take this shit right down on Ocean Drive.

Confidence most wanted or above the law? They both. Both. You know, you got, well, that's MC8 again. Take a sip though, remember. That's MC8 again.

And above the law, that's Big Hutch, Code 187. Rest in peace, Laylaw. See, the cool thing about West Coast rap, none of us ever had any beef. The only beef that ever happened was NWA. And that was a family feud. Between themselves, Cube and NWA, right. Right. So I created Rhyme Syndicate, which was based on Lucky Luciano and the commission. I read all gangster novels about Meyer Lansky and all that shit to learn how to stay out of jail, right?

So I read about Lucky Luciano creating commission with the five families so that they wouldn't beef. Before they beef, they talk. We sit down. We have a sit down. So I said with Rhyme Syndicate, all of us will agree to have a sit down. So you got Cypress Hill. You got Low Profile with Dub C and all them, all these different groups. I'm the founder.

I'm not the leader. Cypress was in it? Yeah, Muggs. Oh, damn, I didn't know that. Muggs was Syndicate. I know Everlast was a part of it. Everlast. them all these different groups i'm the founder i'm not cypress was in it yeah mugs oh damn i didn't know that mugs was syndicate mugs everlast was a part of everlast mugs had a group called 783 that's right okay so he was he used to live with aladdin so all these cats were together so i just said look too many crips and bloods we're gonna be the rhyme syndicate are so there is no gang banging within the syndicate and um we managed to have peace

every once in a while there'll be a beef we put the bosses in the room squash it end it real quick because the boss has always got cool heads right like what's the problem effing oh man yo my man okay well apologize nigga okay cool poop bow you know nobody got shot bam so we never had no beef on the west coast everybody stayed friends and when NWA went at each other like we politely stepped back how am I getting mad when Cuban

eat they friends we all hung out together and it's about business too whatever it's about like, too. Whatever it's about. Like I say, nobody got shot. All right. Self-destruction or all in the same game? Both.

Definitely both. Take a shot to that. Both because hip-hop has the ability to change the way we see things. One of my favorite records is Brand Newbie and Slow Down. You know, hey, baby, you know, it's whack. Crack is whack. Like, everybody, when cocaine hit, we all looked at it like it was fly because it was a high-end drug.

Then we realized it was killing us so rap may crack whack we have that power they have the power to make syrup whack if they want to they can make all this shit whack like wow you still doing that cuz like what's happening so with the violence

New York came out and did self destruction Michael Conception was out there he He had Grand Jury Records. He called up. He said, I want to do something from the West Coast. That was Michael Conception, damn. Yeah, and I heard Karis One recently talked about this story. It's dope.

So I get the call from Mike. He says, you know, need to do this. Do you remember all the people that was in all the same games? Lord Finesse. If you watch it, Lord Finesse is with me. Got Def Jeff. But Lord Finesse. If you watch it, Lord Finesse is with me. Got Def Jeff. But Lord Finesse is from New York.

Right. But he was actually signed to me at the time, so he was in L.A. when we shot it, and he's there on the west side. In the video.

Okay. But, you know... Not on the actual record. You don't remember the artist that was on the record? Yeah, I remember. We did Arsenio. But it was, you know,

you just go do your bars, say your shit, and don't be left out. It was one of those kind of things where it was, you know, you just go do your bars, say your shit, and don't be left out. It's one of those kind of things where it was a bigger diss not to be on the record. But it had good intentions. And somebody like Mike, who definitely was a street nigga, to say, I want to do this. I was like, okay, you're doing something right. Let's go.

Let's do it. You know, because I knew Mike Conception for years. You know, so. Before he was in for years before, you know, so. Before he was in a wheelchair? Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah. But, you know, it was a good, it was meant to be, those are two good things hip hop did.

Hip hop needs to do another one right now. Yeah. The youngsters do. Yeah, definitely. That resonates the same way because that's the thing. It worked back then. I'll tell you who should do it. Where it should come from.

The South. Yeah, because they're together. Yeah, they're already together. If they was to do like a put your guns down, stop the violence type of movement, you know what I mean? The powerful people from the South,

I think it would make a huge impact. It has to be maybe somebody like Killer Mike but the thing of it is is that you got to understand it has to be that

certain age bracket. Yeah it's got to be it's got to go younger yeah. It's got to be like I always say I was thinking more like a future. Yeah.

Yeah future's hot. Yeah. I mean like it's not it's not like I mean he knows how to make the music that's still relevant.

He knows how to how to orchestrate it. And I think that if Future was to come out right now with a everyone put your guns down type of record. But even bringing people under him that are younger. And then making a club record. Right. Making a club record, that shit would be so fucking dope. I'm not in the record business no more.

But if anybody out there is listening, if right now what could hit. Be a young public enemy and a young Lauryn Hill. Them two. It's needed. A young Lauryn Hill, a singer, rapper, beautiful woman speaking pro black, not doing the hoochie shit, just keeping it straight, solid like Lauryn did. Well, we got Rhapsody. Okay, well then she's out there. Yeah, Rhapsody. Okay, well then she needs to we got to blow her up. Yeah. Rhapsody, and then a young

20-year-old militant little niggas that ain't about no jury and nothing, it's about what's right. That's what we need. Contra. Coast Contra. Coast Contra. To To me they like leaders of the new school But I'm talking about some little Militant niggas

That know they knowledge They got they knowledge together Because remember Professor Griff was hitting the stage They're like 25 I'm getting spin effect Get a late pass I'm like who is this little nigga I'm like yo wait a minute I'm a pussy

I gotta get my shit together like yo this shit is going down that's when W's had me like fucked up and honestly Public Enemy Public Enemy made us West Coast rappers get more militant in our records not just talk about bullshit

and talk about issues then all of a sudden you hear N.W.A. do respect yourself. Like they made you accountable. Amongst the shit. Right. We talk about the streets. From your peers. Yeah. And then I toured with P.E. That was my number one touring partner. So I went around the world three times with Public Enemy.

So I knew what they was about. You telling them to pimp the hole and they telling them girl, go home. That's what I call balance. Well, you know what way we did it? I said, Chuck's politics are global. Mine are basically around the hood.

So he'll tell you about the president. I'm telling you about the guy that runs your block. That's the president in my world. So I had the pistol, and he had the african senate so he was more geopolitical right world i used to go tell you what's going on on the block point blank so we both and at the end of the day i remember one time i was with uh we went to the honorable elijah muhammad's house and sat with minister farrakhan. This is when I was in the cop killer shit. It was me, Q,

sister soldier, Chuck. And we sat with Khalid was sitting across from me. Remember Khalid? Khalid Muhammad. And I got really close with Mustafa, the son of... It was interesting. And I got really close with Mustafa, the son of. It was interesting, and that was during the time I was going through cop killer and soldiers.

Yeah, you know, I'm Elijah Muhammad just told me straight up, if you stand in the street, expect to get hit by a car. You basically said cop killer, like get ready. And that's when I learned that freedom of speech just watch what you say you have the right to say anything but you must be prepared for the ramifications of what you say you can't come out and dis gay people and don't and get mad when they attack you can't dis cops you can't like kanye you can't dis the jewish you say it get ready brace for impact because they will come back if you sit down if you're col Kaepernick, you put your knee down, get ready. Protests will come with resistance. That's why it's protests.

Don't get mad when you get attacked. Brace. If you want to put your fist, if I want to put my fist, if I want to say something right here, right now that might make me lose my job, don't get mad because I lose my job. See what i'm saying you have you have the freedom of speech you can go home you can't go home to your wife and say baby i just fuck your sister free speech right you have the right to say it but you got to think what's going to happen so there it is i that. I learned that during the cop killer thing. And now I intentionally, I'm not ever trying to start no beef. I don't want to.

If I want it, I want it. Let's put it like that. If I want it, I want it. I don't want no unintentional shit. Right. You know, fucks up everything. Like the mob, you say, it's fucking with the money, man. It's fucking with the money.

Like, why are you doing this dumb shit? It's fucks with everything. Like the mob, you say, it's fucking with the money, man. It's fucking with the money. Like, why are you doing this dumb shit? It fucks with the money. Like, my boy says, keep the cash flow to maximum and the drama at a minimum. Okay, next one. Primo or Pete Rock? Woo! Both.

God damn it. Both. I miss C.L. Smoove. Yeah, man. Pete Rock and C.L. Smoove together, yo. Pete, C. Both. I miss CL Smooth. Yeah, man. Pete Rock and CL Smooth together, yo. CL Smooth used to say L shit. Mama's in the kitchen cooking fire. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like, that nigga was saying some smooth shit.

You know, butter sauce on the wet. Like, what the fuck? It was so fly. I was like, C.O. Smooth is the smoothest rapper probably in the history of the world. But, you know, B-Bots Beats is just official. Now, when you talk about Primo, Gangstar was my guy. Gangstar slept in my house

Guru was just Yeah he was the best man Such a real person And so dope I used to love to see Guru and Cool Keith Hanging out together That must have been crazy But Guru and Primo's shit is just the most

To me Primo Is the God of the boom bap. Yeah, he's, yeah, hands down. And the god of the scratch hook. Yep. Like, he'll put a hook on you with four different rappers, and it's just so dope. If you want to test your rap skills, get a Primo beat and go in. I mean, M.O.P.? Like, Freddie

Fox? Who can fucking produce Freddie Fox? J. Rude and Damage? Jesus Christ. Group Home? J. Rude and Damage, you come clean. Royce the Five Nine with Primo? How does she go?

Get your luck. If you're feeling lucky, duck, then press your luck. My nines break, my minds break. Malignant lyrics. Who raps like that? Like, you know, your remains put in a car trunk. Come to the ghetto of the, you can't talk in that gang. You're going to survive it live.

I don't gang bang or shoot out bang bang. The malignant lyrics The only dope I sing I'm a true gangster You can tell That motherfucker like I was like And had the undercut Yeah

And you know that Sample from the The water dripping right Yeah yeah yeah Sample from the water Like how I have it With the With the stove

With the stove That was the water dripping And the thing of it is In a rapper's career In a rapper's career You in a rapper's career, you might make a classic record. Right. You might make three. But some records, it's just like, come clean.

It's just, that's like special ed. I got it made. I'm your idol. Your highest title. I'm like, yo, this is a classic hip-hop record So Premier, Premier's from Texas How about that?

The most New York nigga in the world Is from Texas You know who else was Talking about beats, you know who else was one of my favorites? Beat Nuts Love Beat Nuts And they deserve part two of Drink Jack And Rain of the Tech was one of my favorites? Beat Nuts. Love Beat Nuts. Yeah, we love the Beat Nuts. Love the Beat Nuts, and they deserve part two of Drink Jet. And Rain of the Tech is one of the most gangster records ever written.

John Wayne couldn't even stand the rain. The video? Yeah. Like, who is these niggas coming out of the helicopter with the tech? Self-produced, they were ill producers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Psycho-less. Part of Native Tongue.

So, yeah, Juju. So, you know, like I'm saying saying since we're doing the hardcore shit we got the hardcore radar up yeah so when that came out i'm like oh that was they produced one of my records all right so hold on let me just get this um podcast or radio i think podcast because podcast right now you talk to me for hour hour or two, which is much more comfortable than radio. Radio, you're always trying to promote something. I haven't promoted anything. Radio, rappers have this switch where they can hit and they go into promo mode.

Right. I got three seconds. They get my new record, man. That's what's happening. I got my shoes. I got my shoes. It's popping off and it's on, man. It's on.

Fuck y'all. Peace. Kiss my ass. I got my shoes. It's falling off. And it's all, man. It's on. Fuck y'all. Peace. Kiss my ass. It starts now. Yeah, yeah. Fuck y'all. I love you. Kiss my ass, bitches.

You know, that's rap motive. This is where we get to just chill. I respect that. And also about podcasts is you get to pick who you fuck with. Like, if you don't like me and you made it to this part of the podcast, you's a stupid mother. You's a dumb mother fucker. You have plenty of time to turn this shit off.

I'm not your shit. Yeah, I love this question. Kill at will or America's Most Wanted? Well, those are two Ice Cube records, right? Yep. I kind of say both. I couldn't pick. Should have been Death Certificate or America's Most Wanted.

I mean, all Ice Cube's albums to me rate pretty much the same. The only one that rates higher would be Straight Outta Compton, which is NWA. But Ice Cube has a basic, solid body of work. Yep. Oh, let me sip. Go ahead. I'll sip. You know one thing about me?

The rappers I like are digestible. Like, I love Nori because I understand what they're saying. I'm a Mobb Deep fan. Prodigy is my favorite rapper. Right. Right. Because I understand what he's saying.

It's legible. I understand it. So that's the thing. Like, I like rappers where I don't have to decode it, you know, that can sit up and spit shit to me. And I'm like, yo, that was dope. I got that. And, you know, Ice Cube is one of those rappers. that can sit up and sit shit to me and i'm like yo that was dope i got that and you know ice cube is one of those rappers you know i try to be that kind of rapper i'm not you know

i say one of my rhymes i say i check your style although you rhyme quicker no matter what you do i'll always lace mine thicker jealousy will make a fool die quicker than liquor watch your back with your because that's right will it stick you so i said i gotta rhyme heavy i wanted you listen i see when i go woo that was that not even a bar not not even wordplay game right so yeah you know i just did a cool keith record where i say it's not how long you're living i said well no it's not how well you're living. I said, well, no, it's not how well you're living. It's how long you're living well. So let me ask you, New Jack City or Ricochet? New Jack City. New Jack City.

I mean, Ricochet was my first co-starring, but New Jack City is my legendary flim. Yeah, still. When I do my shows, I end with New Jack Hustler and Colors. Those would be my biggest records. Dr. Dre or Puff Daddy? Dre.

No doubt. I love Puffy. Puffy, to me, is the ringmaster. He's the master of everything that moves in hip-hop. He does his thing. He's a magnificent promoter and stuff like that. But I'm not really, I don't know Puffy's true producing power as far as what Dre does. Dre is a studio rat rat stays in the studio the only thing about dre and dre is one of my

very dearest friends the reason i never record with dre is it'll never come out they're like let's work and i'm like okay now we did it let's put it no no no no no no no he just he's very so meticulous but see the thing of it is when you sell 10 million records you don't want to put out anything that's not going to sell 10 million records. But he just finished a new album with Snoop. Oh, man. That's the, them? Because Snoop is Dre's first artist.

Right. That's the magic. Can't wait to hear that. I've heard a lot of it. Oh, you've heard? Yeah, I get, I got a whole, I i got a my phone is full of dr dre records so where do you think it compares to his body of work that what you've heard so far it's just magnificent see dre dre dre i guess has certain people he trusts and so i listen to the music and

i give him back my honest feedback right honest feedback. He'll send me five records. I'll say, this is my favorite. That's all you need. I like this one out of all of them and stuff. But Dre's special. Cool. Next question. Don't think Puffy ain't special, though.

Puffy invited me to a lot of fly ass parties. I don't want to lose my invitation. Fuck. I love. Love. Love. Mr. Love. I love you. Don't get it wrong. Don't get it wrong. I fucked with Puff. Fuck. I love. Love. Love. Mr. Love. I love you.

Don't get it wrong. Don't get it wrong. I fucked with Puff. Puff is cool with me. Let the record show. So would you rather be loved or feared? Love. Absolutely love.

Fear. Fear is not. It's not. It's the bullshit. Love keeps you safe. The reason nobody let nothing happen to me in here, because you motherfuckers got love for me. Not because nobody's scared of me. Scared, man, it only takes six ounces of pressure from a kid, a torpedo, send a kid at you, pal.

They put you down. Let me, can I break this down? This is a good one. Yeah. If you got love, you have a group of people around you to love you. That's your inner circle, right? You're taking care of them. They talk to other people and they say, yo, yo, F is my man, blah, blah, blah.

That's another circle. Maybe you helping them. They helping them. Okay. There's another circle of people outside of them. They hear, oh, F is a good dude. That's my man. It's a big circle that you're a good dude.

You know how you're in danger? It's when your inner circle turns on you. When your inner circle, it got a problem, and they're the ones that can let motherfuckers in. But if you got that circle right, before somebody over to the left moves on you, they're going to run into one of your people. It's like, nah, that's not going to happen. Because of the layers. Because of layers of love, not fear. Fear is a challenge.

Fear is a challenge. Oh, he's supposed to be hard? Nigga, fuck that nigga. You know what I'm saying? But love will protect you to an extent. To an extent. Because like I told Nori last night, the bullet will hit you before the rep

hits them. So I'm in South Beach cruising, fly. They move on a car. Blah, ice got hit. That was ice? They don't know. So the niggas out at night doing dirt, they can get it.

Now why do I know that element is out? Because I used to be in that element looking for fucking hunting niggas. So I know you're in danger out there. You look like a big piggy bank. You in a Maybach, you look like a big piggy bank. But in a real situation, the only reason anybody in here would hold me down is because they got love for me, not because they're afraid of me. Fuck out of here.

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Rage has what we just talked about, a classic record. Right. You say Afro Puffs is Rage has what we just talked about A classic record You say Afropuffs Is Rage I mean That shit was so hard and then Yo-Yo Was Cubes girl Yo-Yo is so dope in real life She's such a real champ A real person a sweetheart I'm the kind of person like I put the West Coast

On my back like all West Coast rappers We all family So I would never talk down on neither of them chicks And both of them always treated me sweet That's what's up So Mobb Deep or M.O.P? Ooh

Shit I'll say both Even though I say Mobb Deep is my favorite I'll take a big one Yeah I gotta take a big one of them I say both, even though, like I say, Mobb Deep is my favorite. I'll take a big one. Yeah, I got to take a big one of them. You got a big one of them. That's a good one. Mobb Deep and M.O.P.

I did a song recently with Fame and Little Fame, Havoc. Wow. And Razzcast. Wow. Havoc and Razzcast. They got a little group they put together so I did a video with them. Little Fame, Havoc and Razzcast? I didn't know that. Yeah, there's something coming.

There's something coming. We shot a video and stuff. But I'm not, I'm just in the video. But like I say, to me mob deep mob deep is the calm before the storm and mop is the storm well mop came out first but mop you know like yo come out some hardcore i did a record with Billy Danz. And it's like, yo, the shit, the way they do it, they have a technique on how they do it to get that shit like that.

Yeah, the ad libs are sick. But then, like, Mobb Deep is just, like, it's scary. See, my thing with gangster rap is the music has to match the content. Like, I've never been into, like, saying gangster shit over happy music. Like, that didn't work for me. So, like, when I heard, when you hear, uh, uh, for all the killers in the $100 bill, real niggas who ain't got no film.

Before they even start rapping, you, like, niggas start stabbing niggas. You know, it just gets you in that zone. I got to suck off the realness. We be the infamous. So I'm like, no, this shit is so gangster. So that's my thing. Gangster music should always have that sound.

Now, Andy, there's two records I stand up in the club. Two records that I don't care what the's two records I stand up in the club. Two records that I don't care what the fuck happens, I stand up. When Jay-Z says, allow me to reintroduce myself, I'm like, oh! I'm like, yo, hey, to the OV. I'm in the club. I'm like, oh, that's my shit.

I stand up. And Ante Up. When Ante Up, I stand up. I can't help it. I got to get up. You know, my other record that makes Ante up, I stand up. I can't help it. I got to get up. You know, my other record makes me stand up, too. You don't want them boys to come over and start asking you what you want to do, nigga. What you trying to do, nigga.

Whoever made that record, he's a good nigga. I love the part. I just love the word nigga. What you want to do, nigga. What you trying to do. Yeah? What you trying to do? Yeah, that record gets me. Certain records. No, this one is a good one for me.

Illmatic or All Eyes On Me? Illmatic. Illmatic, because like I say, I'm much more of a lyrical cat, and I loved Illmatic when it first came out and stuff like that. I love pop, but I only like certain pop records you know i'm saying only like certain pop records it's my it's my taste now crucify me on the west coast but i'm a much i i would study nas and i think the nas being what was he 16, he was young. That eliminates the excuse of young rappers claiming, well, I'm young. That kid was, you know, and I sat there listening to that album like, I got to get better.

You know what I'm saying? So that's what I like. You know, if you're the baddest nigga in the room, you're not going to grow. You know, when I go out, I want to be the brokest nigga in the room. That's the only way I can come up. I love being around Busta Rhymes and super rappers and shit like that. People you think is just as good as you are or better. Better.

When I first started rapping, I was in the studio with Melly Mel and Kaz. And that first people I ever seen right in the studio, right day raps in the studio. cat with meli mel and cat and cas and that first people i've seen right in the studio right they raps in the studio what yeah but they was like yo if you write it to the beat it's gonna flow better than if you write it and try to push it over the beat i had to learn that now i don't write i don't write until i got the beat i'd learn that. But Nas is half man, half amazing. This nigga is something else. And Pac was too. But Pac had to kind of grow.

I don't know. The thing of it is with Pac, I knew Pac when he was in Digital Underground. Right. So it took me a minute to accept Pac as a rapper. Because we're going to come back to that. You know what I'm saying? It's different. Come back to that.

Schoolie D or Coochie Rap? Two different type rappers I can't compare them I'd say both All right, take a sip Wait, y'all just taking sips now? What kind of part of the game is this? I've been going back and forth

Schoolie D is the inventor of gangster rap Yeah He is the inventor of gangster rap. Yeah. He is the, in your opinion. Inventor. Because they say you're the inventor of gangster rap. I put the fentanyl in it. Hold on. Oh, shit.

Hold on. Hold on. Breaking news. Finally ever. Finally ever? Yes. Do you say who's the originator of gangster rap? Schoolie D. Finally, ever. Finally, ever? Yes. So you say, who's the originator of Gangster Rap? Schoolie D.

Schoolie D. Now, also, there's another group in New York called Mobstyle. Mobstyle. Right, they've been doing the gangster stuff. I was actually AZ from the Outlaw Crew. He was actually in that group, I believe. Ryman? He was Ryman?

No, no, no. Yes. Pretty Tony. Yeah, Pretty Tony. Yep. All group, I believe. Ryman? He was Ryman? No, no, no. Yes. Pretty Tony. Yep, Pretty Tony. Yep. All right, so anyway. So you're saying Mob Style and Schoolie D? I don't know when Mob Style came out.

Okay. I can't know. But I was aware of that group. Okay. All right. You know, if people trying to put you in history, you want to be placed correctly. I don't want to know fucking fake shit. Yes. Right. So

the Schoolie D story goes like this. I was already writing gangster raps. Right. But I never put it on wax. I was writing rhymes for gangbangers. Right. You want to hear a gangbanger rhyme? Yeah.

Strolling through the city in the middle of the night. Niggas on my left, niggas on my right. Yelling, cut, cut, cut, rip. To every nigga I see. If you bad enough, come fuck with me. I seen another nigga. I say, crip again. He say, fuck a crip, nigga. This is brim. So we pulled out the Roscoe. Roscoe said, crack. I look

again. Nigga was shooting back. So we fell to the ground, aimed for his head. One more time, the bitch nigga was dead. Walked over to him, took his gun, spit in his face, and began to run. So if you see another nigga laying dead in the street, and a puddle of blood from his head to his feet, I hope it's time all you niggas get hip. It's fuck a brim, niggas, west side, crip.

I said that on the other drink champs, because then I ended with rolling 60, crip. But that was something I would say. Want to hear one more? I got another one. Yeah, yeah, yeah that I would say, want to hear one more? I got enough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know how to fuck you on TV. Take this.

This one's even more fun. This one's even more fun. I said this in Cringe Your Eyes, it goes like this. Fall into a party on a Saturday night and I left the pad down and out for a fight. Head on a waistline leather Levi's cuff. Under the coat I knew I was buff because I was driving pad down and out for a fight. Had on a waistline leather Levi's cuff. Under the coat, I knew I was buff.

Because I was driving the iron, getting ready for that set. And I was packing a punch, you nigga, never forget. The ring in my ear was hanging halfway to the floor. And I was so tight, I walked sideways out the door. Now the hoop, he was lifted, front, side, and rear. And the glass was all tinted. Wasn't none of it clear. It was cragared down.

Those are the rims. It was cragared down with the rims was crager down with a cold ass pearl deepest diamond tuck in the goddamn world i had quadraphonic headphones with tone you could fix under the seat i had a 30 odd six now on the way to the party i was scraping and hopping because i knew by the end of the night there was going to be some popping when i got to the set i let it lay on the ground the bud Buddhists came to check it out from Chinatown. Now, when I fell in the party, it was niggas for days. I was looking crazy in some hellified ways.

I just walked in the corner, listened to they talk. First James Brown record, I jumped up and crip walked. Now, I was walking so hard, niggas couldn't compete. I about to turn out the party with my goddamn feet. But, Norrie, then some niggas went and got out of line. His nose, my fists had no trouble to find. After driving the iron so hard all that day, I drove his grill in one hell of a way, but his partners fell out. So did mine. Squabbing went on for quite a long time, but then

all of a sudden I heard some popping. I knew not too soon this fight would be stopping. I seen 22s, 38s, and a 45. I knew not too much would be left alive uh the broke out in a goddamn rage because i even think i seen the sawed-off gauge because i was sent from hell not heaven i broke out with the chrome plated 357 and the name of the game is simply survival at the end of the night 10 was dead on arrival and me and my partners we was gone like the winds police blamed it on the cririps or the Brims. But some niggas knew in the corner in the dark. Them crazy niggas reside in Triangle Park.

They go by the name of Burnett, Zell, and Trey. And they belong to the association called the EPA. That was called the Eliminators Pimping Association. That was one of my little crews back in the day. Digga, how are you on television? For the record, this is pre- hip-hop. Damn. This is

1975. In high school. I was too. Saying these rhymes to the gangbangers to entertain them. To can't say i can insert your gang name i can insert your shit into the set this is how i kept them savage niggas off my bumper what yo nigga say when i'm saying say my name cuz put my name in it so this is it so when hip-hop came i'm like i could do that but I just had to learn how to syncopate it on the beat

Some people still don't know I think I can syncopate it on the beat But that's another story But that was my attempt to learn how to do it So that was gangster rap So if you count that Then maybe I am the first But it wasn't recorded

So I'm in a club called 213 It was in Santa Monica And I hear this PSK we making that green People always say what the hell does that mean Peace for the people who can't understand And the music sounded I don't never get high

But it sounded like angel dust I can hear that Y'all agree with that? I can hear that PS high, but it sounds like angel dust. I can hear that. Y'all agree with that? I can hear that. PSK, all that reverb was like. And all of a sudden, this pimp nigga, PSK, you know, pimp. And then he said, I went to the DJ. I put my pistol up against his head.

Said, suck ass nigga, I should shoot you dead. So I was like, who is this? So I do the research. They say it's School E.D. We had to go to a library. You ain't had Google. I had to check with my DJs. Okay, okay.

But that record fucked me up. That night I was in the club, chilling, doing my thing, but that record, I was like, who is that? So we found out School E.D., we did the research, said Philly. I'm like, cool. And they're like, PSK stands for Parkside

Killers. I'm like, he's repping a set. PSA or PSK? PSK. PSK. Stands for Parkside Killers. Crazy. A gang. Right. Never been done before. Right.

No, hip hop was throw your hands in the air, was peace, love, you know, this nigga's rapping about a gang. So I was like, that was a green light. Like, oh, all these other rhymes I got over here? Because I was like, you can't do it. Right.

You got to remember, hip-hop was like disco. It was homogenized early. The Spikes. Yeah. It was like being like rock star. But then I heard this and it was such a dope record. Then he had Smoke Some Kill and he was cursing and shit.

I'm like, let's go. So we take the 808, we make the beat8 We make the beat Six in the morning was made Six in the morning But peep game Six in the morning was made Kind of like to resemble a Beastie Boys beat

Beastie Boys had a record called Hold It Now Hit it Well I chill Then it would start Hold it now And Hit it. Well, I chill. Well, I got it. Then it would stop. Hold it now. And then it would start. So, 6 in the Morning stopped and started.

That was the Beastie Boys stop. I wanted to make the record stop and start. Right? So, that I take that. You DJs understand what I'm saying, right? That that, I take that. You guys, you DJs understand what I'm saying, right?

That's all over my head. Right, because if you listen to Holden now, hit it, the record stops. Yeah. Holden now, wait a minute,

hey Leroy, all right. Boom, it starts again. The break is just separate. So our break was dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. So now,

Schoolie D PSK we making that green People always say what the hell does that mean Six in the morning Police at my door Fresh Shadida squeak Let me take you another one Let me take you one more step

The boys in the hood are always Start talking that trash. Same shit, all three. Same cadence, same... Dre will tell you that Boys in the Hood is 6 in the Morning Part 2. Wow. I was today years old.

But see, when I say it, it makes sense it It makes sense It makes total sense It makes total sense So Schoolie D Inspired

Six in the morning But what I did was Six in the morning I put the guns And the drugs And all the other shit Cause Schoolie was vague

Right He alluded to it Yeah people always say Peace for the people Who can't understand How one by one How a home run home boy People always say, peace for the people who can't understand how one by one, how a home run homeboy became a man. S for the way you scream and shout, one by one, I'm knocking you out.

That was basically it. I was six in the morning, police at my door. They found an Uzi and a hand grenade, and we beat the bitch down. It was like, I took the fentanyl on it. I added it to Jay. This shit was on steroids. Yeah, it was on steroids. But then what happened is, Schooley

hears it and gave me the... He's like, yo, nigga, that shit's... Once I heard the... He said, that shit's hard. So me and Schooley always were friends. It never turned into nothing. And then when Cube came out with Boys in the Hood, I got it. It was just homage, the one to the next.

And where's Schoolie D at now? Schoolie D's in Philly. Schoolie D started, he started making. He's from a bank? No, no, no. That's Steady B. Oh, my bad. I'm here to get you right.

I'm a very number. My hip hop cards will be moved for a day. Don't put that on Schoolie D. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm here to get you right. My hip-hop cars will be moved for a day. Don't put that on Schoolie D. Schoolie has been doing soundtracks. He actually brought up King of New York. He did the soundtrack for King of New York. Wow. Yeah, so Schoolie's my dude. But yeah, Schoolie has old school

style and rhyme and you know the way it is with that Schoolie, but he was always dirty. Did you pick Schoolie D or Coogee Rap? We forgot. I think we said both. Come on, it's a demo. Like, yo, what the fuck?

DJ Polo. I think really when we say Rakim was the flower, Coogee was the introduction of complex rhyme style. Complex. Tila Rock really was to me the first introduction of a complex rhyme style.

But then Coogee Rap sped it up. Yeah, Coogee Rap. He took it into the future. I did a record with Coogee Rap, too, for DJ K. Slay, Rest in Peace. Rest in Peace K. Slay, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I've been very fortunate to meet all my idols and have them have a mutual respect.

The worst thing is you meet your idol and they don't like you. You a sucker. Or you don't like them. And you meet them. I've had that happen. Weird shit. I'm into it. I had somebody that I dissed and I met and they was the nicest person in the world.

I learned my lesson. I stopped that. You don't want to say that person thing. I think it was MC Shy D. Remember Shy D? Yeah, man. Yeah, well, yo, shake it, shake it, shake it. But Shy D, Atlanta or Miami?

I think he's from Atlanta. And I don't know why. I don't even know why I wasn't a fan of what I met him. He's like, yo, Ice-T, you're my idol. I was like, yo, I'm an asshole. I'm an asshole. Shai D was dope. Out here in Miami, he was dope.

I'm a fucking asshole. This is the nicest dude in the motherfucking world. I don't even know why. And at that point, like i told you last night man music is like religion it's like ice cream that's what it's 31 flavors whatever you like that's what you like i've learned that over time it's not for me to pick out your preference and what you like you like it for a certain reason you know what i'm saying eminem to me is one of the most incredible rappers eminem, right? Okay. Eminem

says his first record he ever heard was Reckless, right? Eminem raps at a certain frequency. If you can't dial into that frequency, you can't listen to Eminem forever, because Eminem raps at a certain frequency. I tune into a lower voice. Does that

mean I dislike Eminem? No. I cannot rap at his level. But for me listening, I'd rather hear Big Daddy Kane. You know what I'm saying? It's just where my energy level is as a player now and an older player too. I ride around more chill.

Okay, so let me see. MC Ren or Spice One? Both. Okay. Both because they're both legends. Wren is... Oh, yeah. Shots. Wren was always, to me, the more serious, believable, dangerous person in NWA.

Because Wren was... You got to you gotta remember ren was easy's boy oh so ren was really ren's birthday was yesterday wow yeah so ren was really about it you know spice one was just a fucking his style was incredible and you Spice One is still a beast. Once again, I love all West Coast, all the Bay, everybody, man. See, when I started, I couldn't come out Crippled Blood. I had to come out West Coast. You know, West Coast. So everybody from Too Short, all the people up and down the Bay, it was all help to me.

Let me add a different one. King T or MC Breed? Both. Both. Ain't no future in the front. I went to Flint, Michigan

when Breed was alive. Nicest guy in the world. Was they water good back then? Yep. I lost my leather coat. That's my only bad thing. You know how you do in a show and you throw your leather coat?

Niggas stole that shit. I went back to the show. Where's that at though? You didn't get it. Them niggas. But if you listen to a lot of any, like everybody knows Breed's number one records. But if you listen to any of his records, he's dope. Nah, Breed is dope.

Breed is dope. He's rapping his ass. And now King T is a whole nother. I know. To me, King T was West Coast Biggie. Yeah. The King T flow is so similar to Biggie's flow. And I have a picture of him and Biggie together.

Wow. Wow. Yeah. So, you know, it's Tila, man. That's my guy, man. That's my guy. King T has what's called the drunk technique. You got to get king t on it yeah

yeah i mean the alcohol is that whole thing if anything so for him to rap he has to hit the right level of drunkness right wow if he gets too high can't do it if he gets not high enough the flow don't happen when he hits that the drunk technique what's one of his records it's yo i did i mean so the kung fu technique the drunken monkey pretty much pretty much but tila is is no one raps like king t nobody and to me honestly that's my thing in hip-hop it's like originality is number one there's no component noriega there's no nas there's no component Noriega. There's no Nas. So you name it off people that there's no,

they're not replicas. Right. You know, I've had people show my house fucking like DHL men that rhyme and they sound just like DMX. I'm like, you sound like DMX. Like how many rappers that come to me with demos that sound like Pac?

I'm like. And tell you they sound like it too, which is even that come to me with demos that sound like Pac? And tell you they sound like it, too, which is even crazier. That doesn't count, motherfucker. They say, I'm the new, I'm the new, I'm the new, such and such. Everlast, when I first met him, he sounded like Rakim. Really? Yeah. Yeah, he was in Rhyme Syndicate.

He sounded like Rakim. He had the long hair. And I said, you dope, but you need to rap in your own voice. A lot of rappers don't like The sound of their own voice So they'll emulate other rappers Yeah The next Drink Champs is dope Are we getting into something

She is opening I'm opening up some good shit for you Hip hop We going strip club Booby trap or magic city up some good shit for you. Hip hop. We're going to strip club, booby trap, or magic city? I've never been to... The only strip club in Miami I think I've ever been

was... Did y'all ever have one called Diamonds? Yep, and Rolex. Rolex. Back with Luke. Yeah. I got a quick story for you. You was... I don't know Did Luke do Was there a players ball in Miami?

But he had a party or something So Luke's Remember the club Luke's club? Yes I was there I was DJing Right And Trick Daddy was there

I don't remember that part But I remember you coming up to me I'm DJing Okay I got a picture of this And you said I want to rhyme Play Shook Ones Part 2

Okay And I played it And I rapped And yeah And I got the picture of this. And you said, I want to rhyme. Play Shook Ones Part 2. Okay. And I played it. And I read. Yeah, and I got the picture of it. Picture looks weird. But we're going to put the picture in the episode. Cool.

But it was memorable. It was memorable as hell. I think that was the night I first ran into Zopound. I guarantee you it was. I had never seen. Right? Am I right? Guarantee it was. I had never seen... Right? Am I right? Guarantee it was. I ran into Zopan, and I had never seen so much jewelry.

I was like, who the fuck you? Yo, Ice, we Zopan. We fucks. That's all I care. If the second word is we fuck with you, then I'm good. And Zopan's some real dudes, good dudes. Yeah, yeah. So I met them that night

They was They was like We fuck with you I'm like So Then I'm good Good in Miami Shout out to Zopown

Zopown Alright Law and order Organized crime Or law and order SVU Fuck them all SVU

Wait what? It's a different law and order SVU? Fuck them all, SVU. Wait, what? It's a different law and order. Oh, a different law and order. Okay. The original law and order, I give a little love to the original law and order because without them, we would have never been on. Law and order organized

crime is Chris Maloney's show, Spinoff, but I got to fuck with my team. I got to keep my motherfucking boat floating. You feel me? SVU, Mariska Hargitay, most incredible woman to work with. I've been very fortunate to have a sweet... You know, Mariska was Jay Mansfield's daughter. She comes from royalty.

And I love working with her and it's been a very very fun job people say well how do you do the job so long it's because I go to work everyday and everybody respects everybody and it's we all know we all players on the team so yeah that's for you

season 25 to season 30 till I check out of this bitch you just do you just end it out to season 30 till I check out of this bitch. You can do it. You can end it out. I got one. You know what? Look, y'all.

Why is this glass not going down? Because that girl right there. Shout out Jamie, our bartender. Jamie keeps sliding in. And I'm not... Jamie, don't fill this up no more. I have no reference point to how much I'm drinking Ice tea the non-alcoholic nigga

Drink champs got me open Alright OG or Home Invasion OG OG because OG like I said it was a result of NWA coming out and me coming hard As I could at the time with the attempt to do a double album. But Warner Brothers didn't want to put out a double album because Wax had went out and they couldn't put more than 70 something minutes on a CD.

So that and then Home Invasion was me in turmoil. Home Invasion was after Cop Killer. That's when I went over to Priority. And I was kind of like flustered. So it was an angry album. I don't like making angry. I don't like making impulsive music. I like to make it. Like reactive, right?

Yeah, you might. But it was good. The first record on Home Invasion is the best rum. It's on. I'm mad at Source. Source magazine, you're the first one. You know,. Source magazine, you're the first one. Fuck Source magazine. You picked Chuck

Cube and me? How the fuck you pick us three? They dissed us three. Yeah. I said, you punk motherfuckers ain't shit. You're just a bunch of whores making money. No, I said, Source, you punk motherfuckers ain't shit. You're just a bunch of hoes making money off the pros.

And when I see you get you in my sights, I'll give your ass a story to write. Say, hold on, Source Magazine and that one. Being an actor or being a musician? Or if you want to take just being an MC? Both. Or if you want to take Just being an MC Both Both I'll explain Okay Please explain

Being a musician Is beautiful because I control everything I go in the studio. I get to pick the beat or make the beat. I write the lyrics. I create the entire picture. Acting, you're just doing what you say. I have to act until you're happy.

I have to fill your image. If you're the director, Efren, you say, nah, nah, you were more mad than that. I get mad. You go, no, split the difference. So I'm working off of you. So it's different. Only way acting would be like music is, but I wrote it, directed it, and produced it. But usually as an actor, you're falling into somebody else's vision.

But that being said, both of them are dream jobs. Both of them jobs you don't ever retire from. Ever. I cannot stop. I can stop making records forever If I go to a Norris show and he calls me up on the stage I got bars And also like Rakim said I came in the door

I said it before I never let the mic magnetize me no more Even when I'm at other people's show I'm like thinking in my head some bars Just in case I get caught on people's show, I'm like thinking in my head, some bars, just in case I get caught on. That's a real empty seat. Cause you'll black out. You'll be on somebody,

you know, Fuji's pull you up. You like, Oh shit. So, you know, you, you know,

sometimes even if I'm going to people's show, I might say, I might practice some shit just on the way there. Just cause I don't rap off the head. I'm a writer. So I got to figure out what I'm going to pull up at that moment. But

in acting, who retires from acting? Those are dream jobs. Those people dream to do that shit. You can act for the rest of your fucking life. Your knees could be bad. Your knees could be bad in the movie. In the show. Yeah, that's true. I mean, Morgan Freeman is knees could be bad. Your knees could be bad in the movie. In the show.

Yeah, that's right. I mean, Morgan Freeman's still getting a bag. He's getting a hell of a bag. You know, so entertainment is something that's beautiful. And if you are fortunate enough to be able to make a career doing it, first off, you're living a miracle. Right. It's a miracle. The percentages are very low to be able to do this.

You don't have calluses, right? What? Hey, man. I got fucked up hands from jewelry stealing jewelry back in the day. I wasn't ready for that. But, yeah. But I... Yeah, they're both dream jobs.

And I think as long as you know it and you're aware of it, you'll continue to be blessed. I'm very, very fucking fortunate, you'll continue to be blessed. Right. I'm very, very fucking fortunate, you know, to be still in the game. Like I say, when law and order, I'm just going to go read for all Samuel Jackson's parts. You know, I could say motherfucker just like him. You know what I'm saying? So I'll read for all Samuel's parts.

Maybe I'll get a couple. And the commercials you've been doing have been crazy. Commercials is good. I fucking was watching Shaq one day. Shaq said he never spent any money out of the NBA. That was real. I saw that. I was like, what? So I called my manager. I said, I need some

advertising gigs. They won't fuck with you. Cop killer. You bad. I said, give me, I need to advertise an agent. So we got somebody. The first one I got was the lemonade. Read the sign.

Remember that? That was amazing. So I do that. And they waiting on the blowback. They waiting on some, and no one said anything. And next thing you know, I just started getting them.

Bow, bow, bow, bow. I got one coming out. Of course, I got Car Shield. Car Shield is a Car Shield is a gig. So what happens is you go out, you do the shit, they like it, and they sign you on for years. Oh, it's like getting a show.

So you do a year deal, a year deal that lets you run the commercials all year. At the end of that year, they got to read up. You see the one I did with Iverson and Ric Flair? Yep. The bag is substantial.

The people that have that do promotion like Cheerios. Yeah, those ad agencies, they flush with cash. Cheerios, nigga, how the fuck I get on a Cheerios box? After the crimes you just said, I don't know neither. I'll tell you how. I'll tell you how, even though we off topic.

No, we on topic. The gates have changed. The gatekeepers. Yep. The people that used to be in charge are gone. They grew up on you now. The new people that are in charge are our fans. Yep.

That's real. How the fuck did Snoop and them get at the Super Bowl? Right. Because the person that's making the call is 48 years old and grew up with us. The old motherfuckers are gone. The people that... I love Ice. Fuck that. Put him on Cheerios Boss.

He's 37 years old. CEO. Billionaire. So now, right now, that's why Snoop is doing so... Snoop just did Taco Bell. Corona. But the people in charge... During Corona, though. Let's just be clear During Corona it made me say

Fuck it I don't even know But I drink a Corona Everybody's moving away from that beer It's like wait a minute It's the 50th anniversary It's the 50th anniversary of hip hop It's the 50th anniversary

Hip hop has gray hair It's the 50th anniversary of hip-hop. It's the 50th anniversary of hip-hop. Hip-hop has gray hair. I mean, I'm clearly... Hold on. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. So the people that are in charge are grown. Right. So the theory that you're going to walk into anything, I don't care, whatever it is, and you're going to run into somebody who doesn't like you.

Fuck that. I'm going to walk in, meet the CEO, and he's going to be ice. I went to college with you. I grew up with you, man. Let's get some money. You know, I remember Ozzy Osbourne bit the head off the bat. Yeah. Right now, we could put out a bat cereal.

With Ozzy Osbourne. With Ozzy on the cover, and it would sell. It would sell. The parents would get it. With Ozzy on the cover, and it would sell. The parents would get it, the kids would have no idea, and it would sell. Because the guards have changed. You wouldn't be on the radio, I mean, on podcasts if it wasn't, the guards

have changed. Huffy's now a guard. Right. How about that? But what you said is important. Being in this space is a percentage thing. And everybody's lucky that can actually survive in the space. Yes. If you can survive in the space. But the new people are our people. They grew up on us. Right. So the fear of Ice-T is no longer there. The fear of cop killers, I was there when that happened. We love you. Fuck that. You know, let's get some money. When I saw Snoop with Lee Iacocca back in the day, I'm like,

yo, then with Barbara Walters, Martha Stewart. Martha Stewart, that was it. Selling lighters. Martha Stewart should be an honorary member of G-Unit. Because she did her time She held her water We should have her on Drink Champs

She needs to be on Drink Champs She held her water, she got caught It's facts Martha Stewart is gang He said she should be an honorary member of G-Unit I respect that We got Tony Ayo coming soon We're going to tell her He said she should be honorary member of G-Unit. I respect that. Yeah, she didn't rat nobody out. We got Tony Ayo coming soon.

We're going to tell her. We're going to tell her, yes. Yeah, I mean, I respect her. Gangsta. Right. She did her shit. She's back doing her thing. She fucks with Snoop.

She's obviously a real woman. Right. That's real shit. You want to do that? We almost done with Quick Time. Yeah. Not so Quick Time with Slime. Yeah.

But we having fun with it We elaborate Exactly We gonna show you how quick time should be done Yeah, slime Don't just answer the motherfucking question Elaborate, nigga That's not

Alright, I'm gonna make this a three-way question Claire, I wouldn't mind if you elaborate on that for a second I just heard that pimping you just put down But could you elaborate on that? So, this is going to be a three-way question. New York, Miami, or L.A.? Oh, okay.

I mean, all of them. Hey, we're still drinking. I love them all. I'll take a shot for that. I love them all. Okay, good. Miami. I'll start with Miami Okay

We love Miami First place I ever came in the United States It had blue water You know New York that shit's crazy Yeah come on Right LA that shit is like It's like

Let's speak on this It's like It's like seaweed and shit I came down here I'm like I'm in the Caribbean You know I used to live in Sunny Isles. I had a pad in Sunny Isles.

I'm going out. It's beach. It's beautiful. Miami's going through transitions. You know, I've been coming down here for years. Always goes through transitions. Very transition. So it was different.

You know, I came out here one time on Memorial Day. I'd never seen so many white T-shirts and Tims in my motherfucking life. Around how can I be down? I was like, yo, let me take my ass back up to North Miami. Like, I was like, yo, ice, my nigga, what's happening? Yo, yo. I'm like, okay. Yeah, it got wild around them times.

So I was like, cool. But I love Miami. It's beautiful. It's fun. The people are here. You just got to know where to hang and what to do i mean we're planning on going down to miami beach tonight we're staying up here we're going down tonight miami beach tonight with the wives have some dinner enjoy it it's a

beautiful place um new york i i learned to love new york i came to new york i'm like first when i got to new y, I was shook. Because I came in the winter and everybody had coats. Niggas looked big. I thought niggas was looking at me. I'm like, niggas is looking at me. Like, no, they ain't looking at you. Niggas in New York got shit to do.

They got shit to do. They not thinking about you. So I like, you know, New York is different because y'all don't really have the gang, so to speak. But Bronx niggas don't fuck with Brooklyn niggas. Don't fuck. You know, it's different. But I'm from I'm in Manhattan. So, you know, I hooked up with Smoot, a hustler, Trigger, the gambler. Brooklyn. That's Brooklyn. Brooklyn. And then, of course, I'm hooked in with the Zulu cats. I used to roll with B.O. and all the Sugar Ray and all them up there

I love New York City I don't think there's another city in the world like New York City New York is like a Rubik's Cube no matter how long you lived in New York you can't tell a nigga what's on 26th Street. And if you lived on 26th Street, you can't tell him what's on 27th.

And if you know what's on 27th, you don't know what's on the 34th floor and in the back. So you go in a building in New York, downstairs, it's a regular store. Next door is somebody's suite. Next floor is a sweatshop. Next floor is some S&M shit. york downstairs it's a regular store next door is somebody's suite next door is the next floor is a sweatshop next floor is some snm shit next floor is somebody got this badass you know loft hooked up next floor is abandoned it's like new york you just and then it then it does this once

you think you know what it shifts like that hell razor ball new New York's a deep motherfucker. You can never penetrate the depth of New York City. Right? And then L.A.? I love L.A., but L.A.'s violent. And L.A. is a very, very fucked up place outside of the nice areas. You know, when you go to Beverly

Hills, a lot of people come to L.A. and they go, oh yeah, I was in L.A. I'm like, nigga, you was on Sunset. L.A. is 40, 50 square miles of niggas and Mexicans surrounding it. And we've had gangs, and the gangs are extremely

dangerous. And growing up there, just going from block to block is it's dangerous i don't really fuck around in la like i i survived la but i don't go back and hang out like you go back to the block now you go back to prison you went to prison you go back yeah nah nah i don't because I made it. And you're safe when you got your boots on the ground. I don't care what neighborhood you're from. You're safe when you got your boots on the ground and you know everything that's happening.

Everything's moving. But once you leave and you come back, you're not tied in like that. You're not tied in like that. And I had a story going back to la i i i went to cringe y'all but i hung in the 40s before the 40s had a gag and uh they want to go shoot an album cover a magazine cover so i'm back to 42nd i'm there i'm in the corner right by a liquor store and they got the white people shooting the video and little niggas from the 40s now, Cripset, is being very disrespectful. Fuck all these white people coming up in the hood. I'm Ice-T.

Niggas would not back down. Man, fuck that ice. You ain't. I'm like. Yeah. So I call down the street. I call my boy, Shiny Mac, who live on the street. Yo, Mac, man, these little niggas over here is being disrespectful.

Nigga, I'm in Colorado. Nigga my age. I'm out. So I'm like, call Big Timmy. Who's Big Timmy? Big Timmy, my boy, Leonard Jackson's Timmy Fly. That's Leonard Jackson's son. I mean,

little brother. You mean Timmy I used to carry like this? Oh, no, that's Big Timmy now. That's Timmy Fly. I mean, little brother. You mean Timmy I used to carry like this? Oh, no, that's big Timmy now. That's Timmy Fly. I call him. Yo, Timmy, I'm around the corner from your mother's house. Oh, what up, Uncle? Yo, you little 40 niggas being disrespectful. Hold up. He hits the corner. Jumps

out smacking niggas. That's my uncle. Cuz, nigga, you trying to die? Fly clears it out. Shoot. What did I learn? It's's my uncle. Cuz, nigga, you trying to die? Blah, clears it out. Shoot. What did I learn? It's not my rep. It's the nigga that's putting a foot in they ass on a daily basis that they scared of. They don't know shit about me.

So, therefore, in the hood, my card is invalid to these little niggas. They don't give a fuck. I'm an old nigga. So, fuck that. give a fuck. I'm an old nigga. So fuck that. I'm like, I'm not hanging out. I can't hang out no more. I'm not supposed to be there. And I always say also,

if Ice-T gets shot, or if I die, I'm supposed to die someplace I should be. I should slip and fall in Gucci's or some shit. Nigga was in the hood? I don't want niggas to be in my funeral like, dumb motherfucker, what was that nigga doing over there? Why was Nori back?

You know, Nori flipped the speed boat, you know, like pimp shit. You know, like, that's how this shit happens. I can't get caught. Yeah, some pimp shit. You know, fly. You know, this private jet trip. Oh, okay.

But it can't be niggas in the funeral like, dumbass. Why was Ice even hanging out with these niggas? So I always think about that. I can't be caught in the wrong place. So L.A., man, my heart bleeds for L.A., but L.A. is a dangerous place. Whether you're from there or you're not. People are like, oh, you think you got, I don't have no pass. I got a pass maybe in my little neighborhood.

I go over there, I'm out of bounds. You know, what's the kid, PMB? Manchester? Like, nigga, I don't even go there. I'm from of bounds. You know, what's the kid, PMB? Yeah. Manchester? Like, nigga, I don't even go there. I'm from L.A. Them is swans over there. Every area got a gang. I don't know them niggas.

What? God bless them, but, man, stay in bounds. If you go to L.A., stay above Wilshire. Go into, you know, West Hollywood and all the night. It's like, why would I come to New York and like take me to the grimiest area? What kind of sense does that make? You said you used to like to do that. I used to do that. You know what's crazy? You know what's crazy? My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild-haired priests trading blows with J. Edgar Hoover in a hell-bent effort to sabotage a war.

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and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to the American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When I first got out, that's what I thought was it. Like, you know, we will go to a certain place and we will say, yo, where's the hood? So we didn't want the weed man to come to us like how we do now. We wanted to go to the weed man.

So we would do that and we would enjoy it. And it was the, now that I'm a fucking 45-year-old grown man with kids, I realized that was the dumbest shit I probably ever did. Like, I was already, I'm there to do a show. I'm there for business. And I'm requesting to go to the worst area

that's in that city to buy butt. I mean, you know what? That's kind of how I met you, so it's kind of like good and bad. You know what I'm saying? What I'm saying is that style of play is crazy now. You know what I mean? It's dangerous. Let me go to the next question before we go to the last quick time.

Let me say something about that real quick. When we used to travel from city to city, I had a mentality of take me to your leader. So, like, when we go to a city, I would be like, you know, when I would meet people, I'm like, who the niggas around here? And I would bring them to my show. I would show them love. I'd give them passes and shit. And that was how I would always stay secure. Instead of acting like... You wouldn't go to the actual...

No, I'm not going in your hood. Okay, okay. Fuck that. Yeah. But I'll invite them to the hotel. Right. Give them some, you know, laminates, things of that nature. And then I was good.

I always said, you know, we are here in your town. Because all gangsters want is respect. Right. That's all they want. Yeah. You show them that, hey, man, I'm paying homage. Yo, we're here in your town. Because all gangsters want is respect. Right. That's all they want. You show them that. Hey, man, I'm paying homage. Yo, Ice, we're your fucking fans. Okay, yo, we're here.

We're in your town. Let us show us how you move. But like you say, I'm not going to the club after with you guys. That ain't going to happen. No, I'm good. I'm chilling in a hotel. You don't need to push your stripes. You don't need to push your stripes You don't need to push how street you are

You know I always say If you challenge the street The streets will catch your fade They'll take your fade Ice think he can't get got Somebody will catch that fade So I don't want no beef I don't want no beef neither

But on that note Hold on I gotta ask you this Cause this is on the list This is my producers Who make these questions Ice tea or Soulja Boy? Hey yo

These drinks are really Starting to sink in I'm not even gonna Validate that question That's a joke question It's a joke question. It's a joke question. Let's build on that. How did that start?

What the hell happened? I don't get it. I was in the studio. I want Soulja Boy to hear this. Okay, yes. I was in the studio making a mixtape for some of my homies. Uh-huh. I'm in the booth. The nigg homies. I'm in the booth.

The niggas start fucking with me in the booth. Like a fighter trying to get you to spit. Right, right. They hyping you up. Niggas don't want to hear you, nigga. They want that Soulja Boy. They want some Hurricane Chris, nigga. I'm like, fuck them niggas.

And that's how it started. I didn't even know who Soulja Boy was. I was like, fuck them niggas. And then I just it started. I didn't even know who Soulja Boy was. I was like, fuck them niggas. And then I just went on my old school iced tea. Nigga, you eat a dick, bitch. I mean, you know, you put a nigga in front of me, I'm gonna devour him. I don't even know who it is. So I was talking my shit.

I don't know who Soulja Boy is. I have nothing against the guy. These idiots took that and put it at the front of the Mixtape These guys aren't my friends anymore You feel me You feel me right now

We could go in the studio we chilling Right now I know I'm being filmed So I'll be held accountable For every single word I say But if me and you is chilling And I'm be held accountable for every single word I say. But if me and you is chilling and I'm talking shit and I look over and homie got the camera. Oh, yeah. What's that? Oh, nigga.

This hood TV. Nigga hood TV. Nigga. I might segue into a murder. Nigga like turn that shit off. Right. Right. So they took something.

That's how that happened. Oh, it was. It was just me talking shit Right That goes out Soulja Boy pops up Fuck Ice-T, old ass nigga I could have let that die

But my son who was 18 years old Dad, you gotta reply Y'all feel me? My son tells me I gotta reply You got to reply. Y'all feel me? My son tells me I got to reply because he's on the same age wave. So I'm in Arizona. I say some dumb shit. And I regret it because people looked at it like I just jumped out of my bed and went in on the kid.

That's not how it happened. It was just and even the insults. I was not even aiming it at him. I didn't really even know. Hurricane Chris, who is he? He's a rapper, right? I was talking shit about them. I don't know them. Hurricane soldier, I'm not your enemy. I don't know you.

I don't care. It wasn't that thing. But it got bent out of shape and people like, well, you did say some real shit. I regret it. Because that's not my character. My character ain't to go in on niggas like that. But I learned.

I learned my lesson. I ain't talking shit about no fucking body, man. Fuck that. Because it's counterproductive. It don't make you no money. It don't make you no money. No, it don't make you no money. It don't make you bigger. It don't make you smarter. Dissing people,

if they not your flavor, then it's not my flavor. But people will turn something that's not a diss into a diss. Because I say I like DMX over pot. Oh, that's a diss. Not a diss. It's preference. They a diss. Preference. They create narratives to monetize.

Now, we're looking at your shirt. You got a shirt with every sponsor in the world. This is a F1 shirt. Oh, you down with the F1? Yeah, I was fortunate enough to meet Lewis Hamilton. That's why the IWC. Yeah, well, Drives for Mercedes

He used to drive for McLaren But I'm a car guy I'm a car guy So you just had the Formula 1 down here So I'm friends And he's a black kid And he's world champion three times

So yeah I fucks with him Make some noise for Lewis The last one three times. Right. So yeah, I fucks with him. Make some noise for Lewis fucking Hammond. Lewis Hammond. The last, last one. Yeah, the last one. This is the last quick time of slime question.

We still got more, but. Quick time of slime. Quick time of slime. Loyalty or respect? Loyalty. Loyalty. Why?

Because loyalty can save your life. Loyalty is the most difficult thing. You know, I say respect's about the hardest damn thing on the streets to earn, but respect is ego-based. It's like, do I care if people respect me or this, that, or the other? I don't care if you respect me, but if you're loyal to me, I much more prefer that. I prefer loyalty. You know, a nigga can respect you and still throw you in under the jail.

Wow. You know, I love him. But yeah, but a loyal motherfucker won't turn on you. You see, the difference is I won't cross you. Not because I'm going to get caught. Not because I'ma get caught Not because I'm a rat It's cause I can't That's loyalty

I just can't do it It's my motherfucking man I cannot do it So that's why whenever somebody out Is pocket, out of pocket, talking out of line Saying shit You gotta to understand that that's not loyalty because if I'm loyal to you,

I will never utter a word out of my mouth against you. I can't do it. I take a shot to that. I can. I mean, yeah, FN let me, he held me down. He held me down. I was fucked up. I slept on his couch. By the way, we're going to correct you. His name's EFN let me, he held me down. He held me down. I was fucked up.

I slept on his couch. By the way, we're going to correct you. His name's EFN. Man, I don't give a fuck. FN works for me. That's after some FN. DJ EFN. Hold on.

I want to go to the root of body count Let's go Where did that come into play? What's the root of that? Real quickly My mother died, my father died I was moved to Los Angeles to live with my aunt She had a son, His name was Earl.

He thought he was Jimi Hendrix. He kept the radio station on the rock stations. I had to live in a room with him. thing from Jethro Tull, Black Sabbath, shit traffic, ELO, Blue Oyster Cult, all the rock bands. So I understood rock. I also understood punk because punk came through, Black Flag, things of that nature. Okay, that's part one. I grew up listening to Parliament, Funkadelic, things like that. So rock and guitars were always part of my thing. I go on tour with Public Enemy. I go to Europe and the kids are moshing off of hip hop.

Now, if you played in front of a mosh pit before M.O.P., it's wild. So once you see a mosh pit, fuck a crowd. Mosh pits. That's the shit. So I'm like, yo, this shit is dope, right? So now I want to make music for a mosh pit. They would mosh off of Pterodome and fast stuff. So now I got Ernie C.

Ernie C was my childhood friend, went to Crenshaw High School with me. He was a guitar virtuoso. I said, let's make a metal band. Let's make a rock band. Like a Jimi Hendrix? More like thrash. More thrash and punk. More thrash. But I'll sing about the same things I

sing about. And that's where Body Count was introduced. And the first album had Cop Killer, KKK, Bitch, different things on it. It was also a chance for Ice-T to pick another lane. Hip-hop was now getting crowded. So I did it on the original Gangster album.

Body Count just recently won the Grammy for Best Metal Performance. Wow, congratulations. Wow, congratulations. So it's also like black people don't even know I got a band, Body Count. Congratulations. Congratulations. So it's also like black people don't even know I got a band. So we play for a hundred thousand people over at the download fest in Europe. Body.

I just finished a new album, which is called merciless. And it's just a side gig to turn into a major gig. Now body count sells more records than Ice-T. Wow. So that's Body Count, B.C. And also Body Count, the name Body Count was how many people we got to show that we dope to become fans. And then also it's B.C., Blood Crypt.

Wow. Yeah. Blood Crip. Wow. Yeah, so BC, Body Count fans, respect to y'all. New album's coming, it's called Merciless. My first promotion on Drake Champs. That's goddamn good. Shout out to Body Champs. And I just showed Nori in a Body Count video for Raining Blood, I'm wearing a relaxed t-shirt.

You're wearing a relaxed star rock t-shirt there you go there you go there she goes she's elusive bullshit the bottomless drink yes it's got iced tea on drink 10 everybody out there that's watching this to say i see you say you don't drink and it's that it's a that's it's the truth i really naturally don't drink but i'm not truth. I really naturally don't drink, but I'm not afraid to drink. I'm not afraid of marijuana. I've never smoked weed, but I've been on the levels of

contact high. I ain't smoke either, but we smoking right now with Nori. I hung around. Y'all smoking right now. I've been on levels of contact high. My son was working in a dispensary. I'll never forget. And they was smoking all kinds of shit. You know, it's a dispensary. They got never forget. And they was smoking all kinds of shit. You know, it's a dispensary.

They got, you know, we smoking abortion. We smoking dead body. You know, the names is like dead body. This is kill 20 niggas. Eat that Friday. You know, the names they got. So I'm so high, right? I'm standing.

Let me show you. So I tell the nigga like this. Yo, man, I got to go, man. I'm about to get out of here, man. You know what I'm saying? So what, yo, man, I got to go, man. I'm about to get out of here, man. You know what I'm saying? So what's happening, man? Let's go. That was fun.

I'm like, just thinking to stood up, turn around, and sat the fuck back down. So yeah, I've been very, very hot. Back in the day, we used to sell weed. Remember when weed was five fingers? Anybody at all? You had a bag of weed. It was a big bag of stress with stems and shit in it. Yeah.

Right? Early weed game back in the day. You call it what you will. So under my staircase, under my staircase in my apartment, I had a little closet. And we called that the gas chamber. And they had pillows in there. Niggas would go in there and smoke weed in there and just just like inhale it

and just be fucked up. I didn't do it though. But yeah, I've been high. And this champagne is not bad at all. No, that's the spade. And I've been drinking that Japanese I've been drinking that Deleon. It's all Deleon. Deleon, that's tequila.

This is tequila. This is black on Diddy. Give me some of that. Stop playing. You going to play it right? You got a good shot? Then he's going to have some marijuana. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Give him a shot of Deleon and a shot of marijuana. When I tell people I don't drink, EFM, when I tell people I don't drink or I don't get high, I always never thought it was attractive. Right. Being drunk in public. No, no, not being drunk. You got to be. No, I understand that.

That's what we do. But being drunk as a woman, I was like, this is whack. This is dangerous. Guys that are- Let me explain something to you, Ice. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to cut you off. But a neighbor of mine

said to me one day, he said, don't walk over there by Nori. You're going to get high. To another neighbor. Right. To another neighbor. Don't walk over there. You're going to get high. Just by being near you. By being near me.

I didn't like that. Did you... Real belly on? Right. Okay, yeah, yeah. I don't high. Just by being near you. By being near me? I didn't like that. Real belly on? Right. I don't care. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which one should I drink? I'm going to do mine. Okay, all right, cool. If I drink anymore, I'm going to do some break dancing. So look, so look.

We're hitting record views at that point. Look, look, look. So ice, ice. That's how much I didn't like when he said, don't go over there, you'll get high. I went upstairs. I got all my papers. I got my medical marijuana license. And I came down and I said to the guy, excuse me, sir.

I don't get high. I get Medicaid. I said, is doctor subscribed doctor subscribe right you understand getting high is where you go see the guy on the corner right right that's doing pull-ups clear. I'm so sorry. I mean, myself, my whole life, I've always been like a leader. That's right. But today, can you take a shot? Today, can you take a shot?

You got a shot. For Drink Champ. Yes, for Drink Champ. Yeah! Yeah! Why would a nigga do that? Danny, you got to give him a shot of my Moana. Just to say he did it. Yeah, but hold on. See, there's no reason to drink this shit other than to get high.

Right, yeah. It doesn't taste good. What? Oh, my God. Disagree. Well, I do know the more you drink, the easier it goes. No, but shots are never good. No, shots are never good.

You're supposed to have it chilled. Shots are disgusting. Mixed with something. As I was saying, Nori. You ain't drinking in the military? No. Not in the military. I was Army.

Army. Charlie was Army. He was Army too. He got kicked out of the Army. 25th ID. 25th ID. The first Army talk we ever had on Dream Camps ever. But dig this. He talked about it last time. Dig this. I've always been a leader.

I've never had security. What? And I always just felt being high compromise my situation. If I was your security, I couldn't get high, right? But now I'm my security. So I have to be on point. Now, the reason I never could afford security early in my life, and I noticed people that had it started to believe they needed it.

Like their brains said, I can't go out without it. Now me, like I said, I'm six foot. I always felt I miss a good fight. Like I took martial arts. I can fight, but I don't get to use it. So I always felt like I'm really waiting. Like having a gun, you just bought a good new gun. I'm waiting to work this motherfucker. Like I want to use it.

But myself, I've always been like, I'm comfortable. I don't have beef. If you come to rob me, my shit's insured. I'm not afraid. Right. Now, I know I gave you that got a relaxed T-shirt. Yeah, I'm not afraid. Up to this point.

Now, I might say say this go out here and get laid down but no no no no that's not gonna happen but but my point is alcohol was one of my ways of saying i need to be on point now what happened was early in my life my guys i became the the designated driver or the sober nigga in the crew. And they liked it. When I was young, one of the big homies was like, yo, Ice, nigga, hit the weed. I'm like, I don't want to hit the weed. You a bitch if you don't hit the weed.

Well, I'm a bitch, make me hit it. Why you tripping, nigga? Why you tripping? Now, anybody tries to get me high, the big homie like, nah, nigga, don't get high. He don't get high. Because he couldn't get me to do it So now I become The cat in the crew

Ice is good So I'm the nigga like if shit pops off I'm grabbing niggas If the police pull up I'm talking So the homies respect that It's always good to have a sober nigga in the clique It's always good A nigga that does not

get high. And if you're in a room, if you on some gangster shit, right? If you're in a room and there's somebody that don't get high, that's the most dangerous nigga in that room. You know, if you hire security, they can't get high with you.

You like, nigga, what you put that drink down, motherfucker. Watch my back. So that's why I don't drink. But I'm not afraid of it. I'm not afraid of weed. I'm not afraid of drugs. I am afraid of drugs now. Because of fentanyl. I'm afraid of that

shit. Yeah, yeah. I've done ecstasy before. Oh, what? I would like the ecstasy stuff. Yeah, I would like that ecstasy stuff. What, what? You did ecstasy? I would like your ecstasy story. There's a camaraderie. Yeah, I would like that ecstasy story. Go ahead.

What happened when you're on ecstasy? I see on ecstasy. Never weed. I was in Miami. Oh, of course. Of course. Never weed. Did a guy named Eddie Giggs bring it to you?

No. Never weed. Is Eddie here? Never coke. Been around tons? No. Never weed. Is Eddie here? Never coked. Been around tons of coke. Never did it. Never sniffed it. Never touched it.

Never smoked it. Ecstasy. How does this happen? My whole thing was, give me a benefit and I'll do it. You went Equinox and somebody coming to you. Why you want it? Why you want it? So my wife coco okay

she's a party girl she's from vegas she done blow everything party did the whole thing the pretty girls go out on the yachts and the boats they early life they wilding okay so she lived that life had been there done that scene at all but she stopped so when we would go out, she would drink, and she would want me to drink. I'm like, I ain't really trying to drink. I gotta watch you. You know, so that was cool. One, two, three. Aww!

Yo, if you're out with your wife and she gets drunk, somebody gotta stay sober. Right? So I'm covering that. So now, ecstasy. It's a sex drug. Got my attention. Sexy time. It's a sex drug.

Now this time, I don't have erectional issues yet. Where are we going with this? Okay, okay, okay. I'm ready. I'm ready now. I'm ready now. Are you ready now? I don. Okay. Okay. I'm ready. I'm ready now. I'm ready now. I wasn't. Are you ready now? I don't have them yet.

I'm good. I mean, I guess I'm doing the right diet. But they say it's more than that. It's not like I needed to take Viagra. It's another thing. So now they got my interest. I'm like, well, this sex is the best shit in the world. Like, what the fuck?

So I'm down here in Miami. Oh, it's Miami. And remember the crowbar? Yeah, of course. Of course. This might have been EFN. I'm going to validate my stories with documented shit. Crowbar is legit Miami.

I'm not making a shit. You know, my boy told me one time, he said, Ice, you never got to lie because people won't believe the truth. That's right. Your truth is so out-fucking-rageous. Just tell the truth. They're going to be like, you're lying. Okay, anyway. Crowbar.

We're going to Crowbar. Now, Crowbar is techno. Okay. Yeah. That was the first base? Yeah. Yeah, kind of like it. I'm in Distorted.

You got Living Room down here. You got Crowbar. You got, it's the lane, right? So I'm in Crowbar. What is the, it's. You got Crowbar. You got, it's in Lane, right? So I'm in Crowbar. What is the, it's like, it's in a place that looks like a theater. No, Cameo. Cameo, Cameo.

Right, that's where I'm in. South Beach. South Beach. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what they called it, yeah. Holy shit, I'm learning lessons. Let's go. Walk with me.

Walk with me into this world of iced tea. I'm with Coco Now me and my wife We go everywhere by ourselves We don't go with entourage We go on vacations alone Now we got a daughter but we go on vacations I don't need to bring niggas I used to do that when I didn't have a wife

Now I got a wife We leave the hotel, we go on the crowbar She got on the sexy shit. We hit the club. It's techno. For some reason that night I said, I'm ready to roll. To roll? Let's roll.

So she goes, you ready? You ready? I'm like, yeah, what do I do? She said, you gotta find somebody with some E. So now I'm the dope fiend in the club. This might be the greatest drink jam story. This is the greatest drink jam story already. Already.

This story made me take a sip that was not part of the game. It's tickling me because I'm remembering it. All right, so we in the club. Plow. Coco got her shit on. I'm like, so she goes, yo, find the D. Now I'm walking around the club like, you got E? And the white kids was like, yo, I see you trying to get some E.

So I'm like, yo, this see you trying to get some E. So I'm like, yo, this is bad. So now I walk over and I see the dude. I see the dude. You know, with the big pants and the big platform shoes and all the lights and all the... I see

Mr. E. He's got it all. You know the looks. So he's doing his shit. So I walk up to him. I say, yo, man, you know, I'm trying to get some meat. He looks around. He goes, yo, Ice-T's trying to get high.

So I said, yo, play it. Look, look, I heard you the man. I heard you the man. The motherfucker reached in his pocket and pulled out a handful of ecstasy, like maybe 20 tabs. He said, you heard I'm the man? He put it in my hand. He said, now you're the man. Real talk.

Swear to God. God bless this dude. Started me on my life of drugs. So I go back to Coco. You got 20? You took the whole 20. You ain't. I took the whole shit. You get me on that? The nigga said.

The nigga. The pimp shit. Nori was. You heard I'm the man. Now you the man. So he hits me off. So now I got it. I'm keeping it back just now.

I feel like I got the back. Yeah, continue. Continue. So I walk over to Coco. I go, yo. So I show her. She goes, yo, that's too much. What are you going to do with that?

I said, so what do I do? She said, take one. Took one. Hold one. Oh, shit. She took a half. It was one of the kind that looked like a cylinder with two flat tops. You feeling me?

Double stack. Double stack. Double stack. Fuck that shit. Look at everybody here talking about double stacks. Yes, I've got it. you feeling me double stack fuck that shit double stack yes I've got those right now at some point our team is wild

at some point if you stay on drink champs long enough you'll go into the hole you'll go into the you are tapping into a different drink champs level we done left gangbanging we done left cribbanging. We done left pimping. All that pimping. We are in the E-world.

We stopped breakdancing and hip-hopping. We going into the E-world. Let's go. And it's 4-4-4, right? By the way, right there. Okay. Continue. So, she tells me to take one.

I take one. This is the first thing that happens. I start rubbing my leg. Then, for the first time in my entire life. This is like an E commercial for my seat. Listen, it gets greater. Because everybody in here that's done E understands. I'm not making this shit up.

I cannot lie and say I did eat without these certain things happening. I start touching my legs. Then, for the first time in my life, I understood techno. You're like... All that shit that used to go Because I used to hang out in techno clubs

And we traveled all over the EFM when you travel as rappers All over Europe the only clubs to go to With girls are techno clubs They ain't no hip hop clubs So we would be in them but I'm just boom boom boom boom I'm not getting it I'm like yo yo let's fuck like i'm like but they partying so now tonight techno the shit just opened up i heard i heard the strings over here the nuance of techno i could see techno. And I said, this music, you got to be hot.

You got to be hot. Now, the next thing that happened is Coco, everything around Coco went out of focus. She was in a glow. She's dancing in front of me but I don't see anything nothing else in the motherfucking room mattered but her and she's looking hotter than ever next thing you know I got her

on a speaker she done climbed up on a motherfucking speaker shit I might have been a little bit too cautious to do but now get on that speaker baby I'm standing like yo like it was like godly shit. And I'm like, yo, now. Here's a trip with ecstasy.

Ecstasy, you roll. If somebody goes like this, you become high. I mean, you become, you're like, what's that? You come out of the high. It's not like drunk. You're always drunk. EE. It's kind of like drunk. You're always drunk. Right. E. It's kind of like people that have never done it.

It's kind of like if you ever listen to music and you got into the music and you got into this vibe. But then somebody came in the house. You come out of it. You could come out of it. You could go. You're not always high on E. You got to let E take you to the place. Am I wrong?

Right. You can you roll, but then you can snap out of it. You're sober. Can you get back after? Yeah, you can. You just gotta let it happen. It comes in waves. A lot of experienced people. No, no, but I want this shit to be official tissue.

Because we over here talking about drugs, motherfucker. So anyway, me and Coco lead the motherfucking room. Right? We get back to the club. The club. We get back to the room, right? I turn into like Max Hardcore. I turn into like the illest porn

star of the history of the room. I'm like in my deviant shit. Like, I'm like... So... Let me just break it down. like in my deviant shit. Like, I'm like this. So. Let me just break it down. This is for viral shit.

You're honing in. The only way I can explain it is that when we got ready to have sex, it was like choir music and angels was coming out the pussy. Like, and my dick was so hard. I like shut the door with my dick. So I went into Max Hardcore. Dirty bitch.

He loves some shit. So I fucked the dog shit out of her. And the reason I know, the reason I know, I'm not just patting myself on the back, is when it was over, she said, where did you come from? Now, when your woman says that to you,

you know you did damage. She said, where did you come from? So that next morning, I called my homeboy, Shiny Shine. I said, I found my shit. I'm the poster child for ecstasy. This is my drug. Fast forward. One more

quick story. So we're in my... This is why I don't do it. So we're in Atlantic, we're in and this is why I don't do it. So we're in Atlantic City. It was the positive part. It was the negative. We're in Atlantic City. I got a, what do they call it when you do, you get

a lot of gigs in one place? A residency. Residency, yeah. I'm doing eight shows over 12 months there, like hosting, bullshit. Hosting is fun. Hosting is the best hustle in the world. You just show up at the club and get on the mic

and get paid, right? You don't need to do a show. So I'm hosting in Atlantic City. So Coco comes up to me because she always wants to get high. She probably wants me to do that damn thing like that, right? She wants a return of the Mac. Yeah, she wants a return of the Mac.

She wants a return of the Mac yeah she won't return to the mac so i like i was like she said but this time she says they got molly Molly comes in a capsule Molly is not a pill Molly Molly is what the fuck they put in that capsule Molly's when ecstasy went bad So basically she gets to Molly Blau we split it up Bam we take it

Right I'm hosting Blau it's over Now show's over I get in the hotel room. I'm ready to turn into devious, you know, tungsten steel, Dr. Backbreaker. I'm ready to go in. I'm ready to go in. Yo, that shit had me like this. You turned into a vampire. I was like, yo, what the fuck is this shit? Nigga, I'm lit. I'm like, yo, this is not X.

So it was speed or crystal. Oh, shit. Dog, I was up. I was up all night. The next day, I drove back to New Jersey. I stayed up the next all night. The next day, I drove back to New Jersey. I stayed up the next all night. Safe to say you didn't devious microphone tongue slanging. No sense.

We were both like, yo, like, yo. She took it too? Yeah, we both took it. I was like, yo, like, what's happening? Like, nigga was like, what's up? Like, now we're like wrestlers. Dude, the next day, Monday, I had to go to Law & Order. I showed up on the set like, yo, I'm high as fuck. I told everybody, I'm high as fuck.

From Saturday So everybody on Law & Order Was like Ice is hot They just thought it was funny Cause everybody fucked around I'm ready for my lines I'm reading my lines fast Like

Yo It took three days To come off that shit I have not You got Molly Waps Everybody out there Watching Train Champs You know this

I mean you might I didn't die It wasn't fentanyl I didn't die It could have been fentanyl Real strong So I died It was definitely speed

Some powerful shit. I mean, I was like, you don't know what's in those pills. That's the problem with those pills. I felt like, you know, Macho Man Randy said, yo, man! So since that day,

I haven't touched any drugs because now with the fentanyl and the death of all my friends, you don't know what is in this shit no more. And, you know, the cartel, they making Percocets that look like them and all that shit. Chinese is pumping it into the cartels

and the cartels is pumping them. I just have regular sex nowadays. I'm good with it. You know? I'm not a porn star anymore. I have to figure it out. I'm regular. But that shit turned me into a monster. That shit is...

I'm afraid. I'm nervous. I don't want to die like that. I just can't die like that. I just got to go down and like some wild shit. Gun smoke, wild shit. I'll get to a serious note real quick. Real quick. I'm in Vegas.

You in Vegas doing the Art of Rap tour. We on the run eating. We doing our food show. Right. So I hit Onyx. Onyx is like, yo, come to the show. Right. So I hit Onyx. Onyx is like, yo, so yo, come to the show. Excuse me, I asked them, can they do a

guest appearance on the show? Onyx is like, we're performing tonight. We're performing tonight. Can you come out with us? I'm like, no problem. What they didn't tell me was right before they're performing, Mobb Deep is coming out. So Prodigy was a person I knew so long.

And that was like the last time I got to see Prodigy. We hugged each other, smacked fives. He told me, As he told me Many other times That I was I was on tour with him He's like yo you know I'm just gonna

You know I ain't feeling good I'm just gonna You know whatever whatever But I've heard that so many times And then come downstairs And got drunk And smoked eye with him

So Nothing And Havoc was like Yo I'll be right here So I went and performed And I actually Like seen Havoc I like, I'll be right here. So I went and performed. And I actually, like, seen Havoc, I believe. Had a couple of drinks with him. Then they said, a part of you went to the hospital.

Again, I've been on tour with Marv D. Right. And this was a regular thing. So no one kind of got alarmed. But then, as a message, seven o'clock in the morning, I remember I was downstairs

smoking a cigarette. And as I was smoking a cigarette, they said, prodigy pass. It was like, oh, shit. Because like, like you ever seen,

I don't want to say like, wolf that, little cry wolf, but you ever seen somebody like, you know, that go through something all the time. And it's like, you ever seen, I don't want to say like the wolf that cried, but you ever seen somebody that go through something all the time? And it's like, all right, that's just normal. They're going to be all right. They're going to be all right. That's how I feel to God. That's how Havoc did it.

That's how, in my mind, you know, Tripp did it. So everybody that was with them, you know, there are people that I know and my people that I know. But then that shit, it hit that moment. I know it had to feel weird for you because he was actually out there. With me. Yeah, with you. So how did you? With your event.

Yeah, my event. We did the Art of Rap movie, and I wasn't able to incorporate everybody that I wanted in the movie. I actually shot Noriega and Capone, but I had to make the movie a 90-minute edit. So they made it onto the extra, like, we get the extra CD, but it was still more about people I respected. So when it was over, Mickey Benson, my partner, I said, why don't you take this on the road? Let's turn this into a brand where we could bring out people that we feel represent the art of rap. We're still going. Right now, we have one coming up this week or this next month with Benny Siegel, Memphis Bleak, and Freeway.

They're doing shows. Art of rap? Yeah, art of rap shows. It's just a brand. It's like Rock the Bells, whatever. Right. Mobb Deep being one of my favorite groups, we always extended a leaf to them.

Like, yo, we got shows coming up. This is what we can pay you if you guys want to show up. Wow. They always did it. You really love Mobb Deep. That's beautiful. Everybody got a favorite group. Yeah, that's beautiful.

Who's your favorite group? That's beautiful. N.W.A. Okay. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. Everybody got a favorite group. Yeah, that's beautiful. Who's your favorite group? That's beautiful. N.W.A. Okay. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. I just, I was, to me, Mobb Deep was like, I never heard two rappers rap so similar. And then I learned Havoc taught Prodigy how to rap. Yep.

But. Actually wrote his raps in the beginning. Right. But to me, Pro prodigy shit was not just gangster it was more like conversational shit but it was so gangster the way he would say shit you know and i just loved it i just loved it i mean you might listen to some of my shit you'd be like that kind of like prod shit you know i actually used Prodigy for one of my hooks on Retaliation. I'm busting off to my, I'm letting off to my

arms tired, right? So anyway, I met them. Of course, when you like somebody, you end up meeting them. Love is love. They used me on the intro of one of their albums. So, when I did that, so now here we are in Vegas,

Mobb Deep, they done LA, they done this, that, so now here we are in Vegas, Mobb Deep, they done LA, then this, that. So I couldn't believe it because if you saw Prodigy that night, Prodigy was like on swole. Prodigy came out of the pen. He looked good. You know what I'm saying? He was standing straight up and down like, what's happening? Dead? And we get so used to people dying from gunfire and this, that, and the third. I want to sidetrack. One of my buddies, one of my best friends, Big Rich, I get a call this morning. His son just drowned.

His son was jumped into some lake or something that was near a dam and he hasn't been found I came here kind of fucked up but we get so used to yeah rest in peace big little rich but we come we so used to violence if you would have told me

somebody clapped Prodigy on the strip I'm like Prodigy talks a lot of shit. Dying, they said he choked on an egg. I was just fucked up. Like, my idol, one of my guys. And the cool thing is Prodigy just moved over by me. He just moved over into Jersey where I live. So I was looking forward to kicking it with him, you know, making records together.

Wow. It fucked me up. And then the B side of that is later on I ran into Havoc and Havoc sat next to me and cried. Like, Ice, man, you don't even know just you saying how much you love us, how that has helped us.

You know? If you think about it, sorry to cut you off, but if you think about it, we saw the last moments of his life. And he was healthy. He did the show. He was healthy, and then that quick thing, sickle cell.

But, you know, I think after COVID, all of us realized how fragile life is. Was that after COVID? That was after COVID, all of us realize how fragile life is. Was that after COVID? No, that was after COVID. But I'm saying. After COVID?

No, that was before COVID. Oh, COVID. But I'm saying. But he's saying just after COVID, we realize that. After COVID, all of us now realize how life is so precious. I talked to Fred, the godson. He was in the hospital. I got this. I got this. I got this. Don't worry about me. A couple of days later, he was gone. See what I'm saying?

So one thing I say, Nori, is that we are all the same age. Everyone in this room, we're the same age. You either are alive or you're not. Because you might know how much money you got, but nobody knows how much time they got. So we're here. That's what we are. We're not of age. We're here.

The kid that's 15 might die before me. You see what I'm saying? So age really doesn't matter. You're alive or you're not. There's no age. Because there's no date on it. And Prodigy to go like that it fucked me up because i was look a lot of times huh yeah no no i was looking forward to good times yeah i was looking forward to having fun and getting closer to him right as a friend um it sucks man man. It really hit me hard.

Because, you know, Travis Scott had performed, right? When he performed, so many people blamed him for it. Was there anybody? No. No, okay. We had nothing to do with it. I mean, if anything, we got praise for being somebody that was putting Mobb Deep on the road. That's right. You know, the thing of it is is it's like a lot of these rappers right now the art of rap

was created just for you what a lot of rappers are gold and platinum sellers but if you're waiting on drake to take you on the road you may never tour you feel me so we needed to create something for people that were gold and platinum That could still go gig So that's what Art of Rap is based around People like yourself, Mobb Deep Just groups That need to go out and gig

And still can So that's what my platform is from And I've never made a dime Off of Art of Rap shows That's Mickey's hustle. That's the way I gave my man something to do. Go do something. Mickey Benson. God damn it.

Make some noise for that. I told Mick, when we do art or rap, I'm an artist. You got to negotiate with me for my price. And then you just pay me what I do, and I do the show. I'm not going. You got to negotiate with me for my price. And then you just pay me what I do. And I do the show. I'm not going to do none of the bullshit in the back. No negotiations. None of that. I'm showing up as an artist. Maybe y'all know Drink Chance wants to give

flowers while people are here to receive them. Giving flowers and celebrating our legends while they can still smell them. We have partnered with What The Flower to create this movement where everyone can give flowers to the legends in their lives. You can now order a custom flower box for the someone you want to show appreciation to by visiting www.wtflower.com and place your orders now. That's love and a baby right there, man. I appreciate it. You know, this means more than any award that you can get on some real shit because it means that you're appreciated by your peers, you're appreciated by the people that you do it for. And I accept my flowers with love. We done took us to a serious mode.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We went from ecstasy. That's what Drink Champs is, the roller coaster. We done took us to a serious mode. We went from ecstasy... That's what Drink Champs is, the rollercoaster. I need some dark liquor. If you want to take me there... I gave you a shot of Mama Juana. Dark liquor.

Drink that shot of Mama Juana. Clear liquor makes you party. Dark liquor be like, you know I love you much. You got the shot right there. That's Mama Juana. You drink this, I be like Nori. I love you much. You got the shot right there. That's my moment. You drink this, I be like Nori. Niggas fuck with you. I be the first to die.

I die, nigga. This shit has you in your feelings. Fuck it. I don't like how this shit tastes That's bad That right there didn't taste bad See you see What's that?

That's the Mama Juana That's that's that's that's decent That's nasty That's nasty Niggas gotta be flirty It's the Niggas gotta be Flirty

It's the decent It's decent That's the That's the On a song power. Okay. I love it. Now I am officially on drink champs.

Right now. Piss break. You are off the chain. I'm old, nigga. I usually have to piss every time I stand up. So if you sit down, you good? I don't know. I haven't have to piss every time I stand up. So if you sit down, you good? I don't know. I haven't had to piss. I don't know. Maybe I'm maybe you guys got me on adrenaline or something.

But when you say they hate you, but you hate them back. And it reminded me of your speech. What's that? I don't hate nobody back I don't know why anybody would hate another motherfucker you know like a lot of times people hate you for shit they heard

about you that wasn't even true you know there was this kid that this kid named Ice who was connected to connected to Joe Button. This boy.

And he made a big thing about why black women ain't shit. And I took the heat for it. And I never said it. So a lot of people... Because Ice, the name Ice. What's his name? You know his man? No.

You know? No. It's a the name Ice. What's his name? You know his man? No. You know? It's a guy named Ice. One of his friends. He said he's on the podcast, right? So anyway, he actually called me. I said, Ice, I said that. That was not you. I said, well, there's no way to unring a bell.

Like, the black women, since I got a white wife, they feel that's me. And, you know, they got pissed at at me and it was something i never said so a lot a lot of times people dislike you for the bullshit like somebody said yo nori you know nori did this that and the third now they don't like you and it wasn't even true right you know that's why good podcast is a good, I mean, a podcast like this is a good place for you to really decide whether you fuck with a nigga or not. You know? It's long form. You get a chance to. I always told bitches, if a motherfucker that you dealing with a dude and he don't like me, that's a red flag, bitch.

If you dealing with a dude and he got a problem with me, watch that dude. Watch that dude. You dig? Watch him. that dude. Watch him. Not me. Watch him. There's some reason he don't like me. There's some reason that he don't like me. And I might have triggered his real nerve. I done challenged his realness

at some point. Because real niggas ain't afraid to say nothing. I'll tell you I'm scared. I ain't afraid. It's realness. Right. Okay. Cause real niggas ain't afraid to say nothing I tell you I'm scared I ain't afraid It's realness Right Okay You can challenge

Your pimping will challenge another niggas realness So they'll watch you And it'll offend them That you so real It'll fuck with them It'll fuck with them Especially around they bitch They be like

Damn I'm offended That shit got deep right But it's real It's real It'll offend them It's cause it's a roller coaster You got another shot?

Are we taking a shot? No I'm good I'm over here drinking this Champagne This fly champagne Champagne You know what niggas Players do We drink champagne Sniff the best cocaine Are we taking a shot? I'm good. I'm over here drinking this champagne. This fly champagne. Champagne. You know what, niggas?

Players, do we drink champagne? Sniff the best cocaine? So, yeah. Let's talk about how did you get into pimping? I never was a pimp. Okay. I never was a pimp. I hung around pimps.

I understand the pimp penal code. No. The pimp penal code. I understand the pimp penal code. No. The pimp penal code. I know the rules of the game. I had girls. When we was hustling and stealing, I had girls on my team. These girls were what they consider in the streets thoroughbreds. You know what a thoroughbred is?

That's a bitch that'll fuck, steal, rob, work plastic. See, they're hustlers. But pussy is not out of the equation if that's what it takes to solve the hustle. I roll with some thoroughbred bitches. Was I sending them? Not necessarily so. It was part of the game.

You understand me? So I never was no ten toes down pimp standing on the corner with bitches, but I fucked with players and pimps and stuff like that. So I was in the life. So you know, they respected me. I dressed the pimp look and all that shit. But as that being my

occupation, making money, no, it never was. No. But some of the girls I roll with was getting money and they would handle their business however the situation arrives. You understand what I'm saying?

To pimp hoes, you send bitches. You send bitches, you get money and all that old shit. That wasn't really... I say in one of my records, I said I said I took on the I took on the Ice-T name, but the pimp game moved too slow, especially for a nigga who was hooked on quick dope. So being a robber and a hustler, that was just different. But I'm cool with the pimps.

I hang with players. I grew up around players and hustlers. Some of my great uncles are some of the great pimps. So I understand the game. But no, I'm not a pimp. And I also would never admit anything illegal on television. Smartest shit ever. Smartest shit ever said ever.

I would never admit anything illegal. But no, it's an offensive word to a lot of women, but a lot of players actually hustle with women. Like the women are their partners. You're saying in the game. Let me ask you like, there's some strippers who made a whole life of their self or being a strippers. And then there's some pimps that made a whole... Like when you... I remember

looking at your acceptance speech, one of the first people I seen you shout out was Bishop Don Long. I love pimps. I mean, I understand the game. It's the underworld. It's the underworld. And one of the oldest

occupations. No, no, no. EFN. It's the underworld. Right. Guy the oldest occupations. No, no, no. EFN. It's the underworld. Right. Guy over there, he's a car thief. Guy over there, he's an armed robber. Guy over there, he's a drug dealer. You a pimp.

You a coke dealer. We all in the same world. Let's switch. It's the underworld, all right? The underworld can all show up at the players ball because we all players we're not we're not we we don't abide by the law right right so i lived in that world for a long period of time i'm very comfortable in that world do i condone it hey it's breaking the law pimping is illegal selling drugs is illegal so a lot of people say well ice a lot of things you did do you regret

i quote fargo you ever see the movie fargo yeah i'll see it in affleck right yeah it seemed like the right thing to do at the time that's my answer at this point in my life would i do some of them things i don't know i mean I look at some of the shit I did. I'm like, I'm crazy. Have I ever told a bitch, yo, go hook up with this nigga and get this paper? Yes. Was it my main source of income? No.

But I remember I had this one bra and I was trying to send her. I was reading this pimp shit. I had started dressing fly. I was trying to get her to hook up with these old men. She ran over. Yeah, like these old niggas, they were some tricks. We want them young bitches down here. That's what I was doing.

So I tried to send the bitch, so she runs over to my other dude, my boy, my buddy. I'm not going to say anybody's name. It's funny. I used to say names, but a lot of these women have grown up, and they're church women now. They're school teachers. Like, Ice, don't say my fucking name.

Come on, Miss Louise. I've even had one of my buddy's mamas check me. Jeez. Like, you put me in your book? Ice, come on. I'm like, okay. So I've learned that lesson. But anyway, the girl I had at the time, I'm trying to send her, you know, testing my pimpin.

She runs to my buddy. I just try to. He's like telling me, oh, man, she chose me. I hit him with I hit him with the Mac. You were rest haven for hoes. This is trying to escape this ism. Like, come on, man. But anyway, she ran off with him but i mean i mean i mean no no but i've come from the life and i'm very comfortable around the players and i'm accepted as a player okay take it or leave it that's how it is you dig it is but i understand the pimp penal code i understand pimping backwards and forward i understand it i'm named after Iceberg Slim. I named myself because I used to read so much

Iceberg Slim. Of course, it wanted me to get in. It's not from Donald Gomes. Donald Gomes is another writer. Iceberg is Jeff Beck who wrote the Iceberg Slim novels. I actually have a documentary called Portrait of a Pimp that we did, I produced,

about his life. So I'm reading that shit. Of course, I want to try to put it down. But then I had an epiphany one day. I'm like, he's a writer. So there's going to be a lot of players, but the player that everyone knows Iceberg Slim is because he documented

the game. So if I want to live forever in the game, I can't live the game. I have to document the game. If you listen to Ice-T records, they're not records. They're books. They're lyrics. It's me doing Iceberg Slim over music. When you listen to all the records, it's like I'm spitting game.

It's not about dancing, throw your hands in the air. It's ism. So that's what it is so you know i i i met iceberg slim before he passed get out of here yeah fab five freddy hooked me up with him damn fab five freddy and i told iceberg slim to his face i said you know i named myself after you he said well who better baby And I'm friends with his daughters and all that, but Iceberg Slim changed his life at the end.

And, you know, one of my favorite Iceberg Slim quotes is if you want to play this game, meaning the streets, it's going to cost you something. It's going to cost you. You know, whether it's penitentiary time, losing a close friend,

but there will be a charge for admittance into this game. Wow. You know, and I changed my life. I changed my life. See, Ice-T, just so you niggas know, this is what Ice-T is. Ice-T is a hustler and a player

who went down this road, this street road of hustling, and I run it. I'm going to be the best. I'm going to be the flyest. I'm going to be that nigga. But I get to the end of this road, and it's a cliff. And I see everybody going off, people I admire dying, going life in prison, LWOP.

Ice-T is me on this same road running backwards saying, don't go that way. That's my music. Don't go that way. Don't get in the gang. Don't try this. That's what I'm doing here today. That's who I see is. I know there's a cliff. You might not see it. You might pass me, you an old nigga. I'm smarter than you. Before we do stupid things, we all justify that stupid thing we're about to do. So you can take it or leave

it. Like I tell niggas, you can listen to me or a prison guard, nigga. You take your choice. But I'm here to tell you, I tested the game, the coke game, the jacker robbed game, all them games, and you're going to end up dead. Are you in jail? There's no retirement. There's no. The only niggas that have retired from the game have got out and transition. But there's no do or die dead gangsters.

Sixty years old. It's been still gangsters. Fuck out of here. It doesn't work like that. Now you could be 50 Cent and you could be a real live nigga on the streets and you can get out. You could be a Jay-Z, live nigga and get out. But staying in it, 10 toes down,

get out of here. Name one. Because the streets will rat you out. The enemies will come and get you. But the police, you know, I tell street niggas, if you popping on the street, EFN, if everybody in the street knows your name, so do the police. The only way you're going to survive Is becoming an informant Alright

Holy moly guacamole Did you ever think I know this is a cliche type of question but did you ever think that hip-hop would make it this far he's a perfect person for this question hell no because because tell us tell us describe to us in the beginning how hip-hop was like frowned upon so to as opposed to how hip-hop is looked at now as a global asset. I was in the army. I did four years in the army. While I was in the army,

the cats from New York had hip-hop tapes. First generation of hip-hop is unrecorded hip-hop. It's tapes. Tapes of live shit. That's the first generation. Treacherous 3, Funky 4 Plus, One More, all that that by me being in the army i'm with new york niggas new york niggas is showing

us off they're showing off i got tapes i was fascinated with that shit i was like it's just hip just rap tapes of live live park jams live shit i'm fascinated i never heard no shit like fascinated with the kids finding out about tapes. Tapes? Yeah, tapes. Yeah, tapes. Yeah, yeah. Tapes, flashes on the beat box.

I was like, fast. The beauty of hip hop, it's a culture that has four entry points. Graffiti, breakdancing, DJing, and emceeing. You can get in four ways. So that really blew my mind. I was like, damn. Shit is dope. Then I saw New York City Breakers on a show called

That's Incredible. Anybody remember that? Am I too old? It was a show that had different people that could do outrageous shit. And they had the New York City Breakers. And I saw break dancing i was like fascinated because we were popping in the west coast right spinning on their backs and and hip-hop got me i was like yo i want to learn how to do this so i come out

of the army with stereo equipment i want to throw parties like Uncle Jam's army. But I practiced rapping. I was getting more attention rapping. The theory that it was going to be some way you could make money, never. No one had ever bought a car doing it. So now I'm rapping. I hooked up with these guys called the New York City Spin Masters, my boy Evilee and Hen G. They were from Brooklyn. They knew how to scratch. So I hooked up with them, called the New York City Spin Masters, my boy Evil E and Hen G. They were from Brooklyn.

They knew how to scratch. So I hooked up with them, and they were doing house parties. But at the parties, they would have four DJs. Feel me? Right? So I would show up with them, and they would actually scratch breakbeats, and I would rap. I got my name on the flyer eventually. Feel me? Because it was their show

the theory I'm going to get money that's like I said when I met Andre Harrell and them I had a Porsche I had jewelry I was wearing two pages I had a gun the niggas was like why do you want a rap you got it all you got a Porsche turbo why do you want a rap

I'm like well what I'm doing ain't going to last. Wow, you knew that. Every other rapper didn't have that at the time? Nobody had it. Run DMC hadn't bought cars yet. Wow. I'm talking about 82. Wow. Wow. I just liked it. I would go

rap it. I would do just shit in a day and then show up at a club on the weekend and be a star. And I like that. Theory of it actually being my money, it never could happen. But it started to happen. Now the difference

is the kids are getting in for the money. And they're like, I could put as little talent into it as possible. We did shows before we got record deals. They get record deals before they do shows. Right. Like, you were, like, talent-leaning. You had to have talent.

Right. And by working in that club, I was able to rap every weekend and get better and get better. So I never thought this was going to last. They said it was a fad. They said it was a fad. said it was a fad i think when the major record label started i was one of the first rappers ever signed to a major i got signed to warner brothers sire madonna's label that was the start and then sire is madonna's label sire no sire

was one was a label on warner that madonna was signed to i was signed to the same label as Madonna, Talking Heads, Ministry, That's Chris. Basically a punk rock label by Seymour Stein who just passed. I inducted him into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. But he heard it.

He told me when he signed me, he says, have you ever listened to Calypso music? I'm like, no. He said, they sing about the problems in Trinidad, this, that, and the other. But he taught. Here's a jewel. Seymour Stein taught me. Just because I don't understand it doesn't invalidate it. This means I don't understand it.

What you're singing, I know people, it resonates. Just maybe not me. Go ahead and make your music. I believe you sound like, to me, Bob Dylan. That's the only person you can connect to. How genius is that? To be able to say, just because

I don't understand, it doesn't invalidate it. It just means maybe I don't... I know there's people in this world that does relate to that. Right. Do you understand? What's the Korean shit? The K-pop. Do you understand it?'s the Korean shit? The K? The K-pop. Do you understand it? No.

Does it invalidate it? No. It just means it's not your... This is my point. But this is being an A&R guy being that smart saying, I don't understand rap,

but I know it's something. Dope. Gave me my break. Do you think there was a difference from the Tupac that was on Digital Underground and the Tupac that was on Death Row?

Absolutely. I mean, yeah, I think we can all say that. Absolutely. See, Pop, when I first met Pop and Money B and all them, it was Digital Underground. So you got Shaq G, who's 100% different, parliament, dissent, and third.

I didn't even recognize Pac as militant or nothing like that. Just as a dancer, friend, cool. And when he came out, I was like, yo, that's the same dude. But I couldn't disrespect

him because his lyrics was deep and uh i got to work on on apocalypse now me him and q that's a great album wow on last words so but what people don't understand is i love pock i love pock but he's an artist to me he's just another artist artist. You know, people like Pac is a god, but Pac is an artist. He's like Nori to me. He's just an artist. So we were friends,

and people, last time I was on here, I said something, I said I tried to talk to Pac, and people like, you can't talk to Pac. I'm like, Pac's 13 years younger than me. Right. And West Coast definitely has a pecking order. If you're a little

older, motherfuckers will sit down. And I had a story where Shaq G came to my house. Told you that story. I lived in Hollywood Hills. Shaq came on my door. I said, why the fuck you knocking on my door? He said, I was up in the hills. I asked

if any black people live up here. That's what Shaq G said to you? They said, Ice lives fuck are you knocking on my door? He said, I was up in the hills. I asked, does any black people live up here? That's what Shock G said to you? They said, Ice lives right over there. So Shock knocked on my door. We sat down and he was like, Ice, talk to Pac, man. You know, they feeding Pac gunpowder. Pac is like not listening to me. This is Pac now on death row.

You know, and we had conversations, but see, the thing of it is, it's like when you're working with a rapper, you have to get a rapper in a state of mind. Def Roe was training Pac to be a killer, which you heard in the music. But like I did a thing for Mike Tyson, which is like You train a man to be a pit bull Then you get mad when he eats the furniture You see what I mean So That energy Bled into the streets

To his demise Because like At the end of the day you would never kind of like recommend someone to get into gang culture because gang culture like it's like

I wouldn't advise anybody to get in the streets it was like last night last night I forgot I think his name was Nino Brown or his his weed strand was Nino Brown

but he said to you something like, I'm from Hoover. And you said, oh, I'm some such and such. And everything that y'all spoke about, I was so lost. As a person from New York, I was just looking at y'all. And y'all said,

you said, over here, on this ground, this ground, this down. And I'm like, that's some complicated shit. You know what it is, Nori? If I told you a part of Queens, you know what that block

consists of. Yes. So he said he from 94th and Hoover. I'm like, yo, that's a very, very hot area. Right. That's the Hoover criminals. Right. It's hot. Where I'm from, that's called out of bounds. That's not

where I go. I don't know them people. My baby's mother, my daughter, my adult daughter, her mother lived on 74th and Hoover. 73rd and Hoover. I know all the Hoovers when Hoovers were Crips. Hoovers used to be Crips. Now they're anybody killers.

They wear the H, the Houston hat. Those are the kids that killed Pop Smoke. God bless. That's Hoover. Them and the Hoover criminal. It's a set. I don't know them niggas. So I was like, I just bowed down

to his neighborhood like, yo, I'm from the west side. I don't know them niggas over there. That was it. Everybody knows the tough areas. Everybody knows. So when you say it, if you're from there, you go, okay. Okay. I know how you grew up.

But he went to prison and he came back home. But he's younger than me. See? So he said, my dad might have went to school. His dad went to school two years before me. But he said, yo, I'm blah, blah. So that resonates with us. Right.

So therefore, he's a little homie. So he going to treat me accordingly. Like, that's a big homie. My dad knows you. Right? Like, cool. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy.

Like, when I saw that last night I saw two people that didn't know each other And had a whole conversation Which no one else knew What y'all was talking about And That shit was like To me like

Is that any way you go Well first thing I would do if you tell me you from LA A lot of times niggas would tell me yo I'm from la i'm like what part and then they'll back down i'm like where you from they'd be like kimona i'm like that ain't really la you know what i'm saying that's like you know i'm from pocono or some shit like that like i, I know where the trenches are, you know? So I'm like, but where you from? That's the quickest thing. What part of L.A. where you from?

Oh, I'm from Boop-D-Boop. I'm from Main Street. Okay, cool. Then what we'll do is we'll name off niggas. I know niggas from over. I know such and such, such and such. They'll go, wow, you from 60s. I know such and such, such and such. But it's dangerous because if, you from 60s. I know such and such, such and such. But it's dangerous because if you, like, now you're

in that world, right? Run into another set. Yo, who you know, cuz? Who you know? Oh, I know DJ EFN. Yo, fuck that nigga. That could be the wrong name. Like, that nigga ain't nobody,

cuz. Oh, shit. Now you better name a top-tier nigga. You know? So it's just L.A. life. Like I said earlier, L.A. is dangerous. So I was able, by being a player and moving around to different sets and learning about the shot callers and befriending them, I knew enough people just to navigate the city. I've been out of bounds.

I was messing with this girl from the bottom, which is- Crenshaw? No, the bottom is the east side of the 40s. So that's the Pueblos, another project called the Pueblos. Niggas over there, you want to hear an ill name? They're called Bloodstone Villains. You ever heard of a gang called the Villains? Them niggas, that name is scary, right?

So BSVs, Bloodstone Villains. So I met a girl on the west side, a pretty girl. I don't know the bitch lives in the motherfucking pueblos so she gave me a number i pull up over there in the porch with the fila whoopty whoop so she was fine so i meet her one day i'm gonna pull back up the second time i pulled up she go you niggas over here said they finna rob you i said all right nice meeting you bitch i'm out i got him pussy nope i'm out i'm out because if i if something happened to me over there my crew ain't coming over there they like nigga why are you way over there so there was a shot call over there named termite who was the main nigga over there they were selling water

so water means dust pcp okay pcp yeah it's what they use to make dust. Okay. So, and we call it shurn. Okay, shurn. But anyway, just having the right connections and knowing where you are and who's this and the third. I have a story where I went, I met this girl on the west side. I'm on the west side. West side. We gotta finish that story. So what happened? You was going through?

Anyway, I just never showed back up at the bitch's house. He just left. Okay, go ahead. I live here to live. Yeah, go ahead. A girl tell you, yo, you know, the guys over here are planning on robbing you. That's all I need to hear. I'm like, I'm out. I'm going to go to the liquor store.

I'm going to get something right quick. Bitch, you're not seeing me. I'm back on the other side of town. So one time I met this girl on the west side. West side is anything. You got the Harbor Freeway in L.A. Anything on the west side of that on the west side. West side is anything. You got the Harbor Freeway in LA. Anything on the west side of that is the west side. Anything on the

other side of that is the east side. Here's the thing. Ain't shit on the east side. Ain't no businesses. Ain't no hotels. Ain't nothing but drama on the east side. East side niggas wear sweatsuits with hard shoes. You ever seen the old niggas that have

the sweatsuit on with the party socks, the big socks, and Stacey Adams? Them niggas. Them niggas is on the east side. West side niggas is players. We got K-Swiss, we fly. East side niggas is dangerous niggas, like dangerous.

My man's laughing. So yeah, east side niggas. Like, dangerous. My man's laughing. So, yeah, Eastside niggas is real hard. Hard. So, I meet a girl on the Westside, and she telling me she lives on 99th and Success. That's on the east side of Will Rogers Park in Watts. I'm in high school. I catch the bus down Crenshaw.

I catch the bus down Crenshaw. I catch the bus down Century. If you want to find, if you want to go to the jungle, get off at LAX. You're on Century. Just take Century East. You'll end up in Watts. But you don't. You go West. If you go East,

you'll end up in the worst part of LA. So anyway, I catch the bus The bus stops at Will Rogers Park I gotta walk across Will Rogers Park Dangerous Nixon Gardens There Imperial Courts So I get to the girl's house

I go in her house Her mother's sitting In one of them big reclining chairs Hi baby you want some water Like she one of them big reclining chairs. Hi, baby. You want some of that? Like, one of them hood mamas laid back, got the feet all swole up. Like, brought me some drink in a mayonnaise jar. I'm in the hood.

In a mayonnaise jar. While I'm sitting there, her nigga shows up. Now I'm in the house. I'm talking to moms. Do you got a jerry curl? I had a perm. Don't get it twisted. He had a perm. I meant the perm. But I'm a kid.

I'm a kid, Nori. How old? 17. Okay, let's go. Keep it going. We in the hood. You know you in the hood when you in the house that got car furniture in the house. Oh, shit. Cinder blocks. The hood hood. Like, your

knobs was only one side. You gotta use like a key. So the dude shows up. So she outside trying to talk to him. She got another nigga in the house. I'm sitting there with moms. Like, yo, this is going bad.

That's a motherfucker. Like, I got to be number. There's some watch nigga outside. This is fucked up. I sat in that house literally about an hour waiting for that conversation to end. The shit wouldn't end. So now I'm like, fuck it. I'm bailing, right?

So I just walk out the front of the house. I walk out the house, right? I walk right past them. I turn and I'm walking. Now I'm walking, right? I'm expecting to feel this. Like the nigga just clocking me from behind, but I'm just walking like I ain't got it yet. I ain't

looking back. Just waiting for the bit. And I made it. I walk off. They never say nothing. I'm like, shit. And I got in the middle of Will Rogers Park, and I'm like, what in the fuck are you doing here? You do not belong here.

That was not your bitch. You could have died way over here. And I got my ass on the RTD, I went home and that was my last attempt. Two learning lessons of being out of bounds fucking with bitches. Like what does Cube say? Never fuck with a bitch from the projects. I learned my lesson and I made it home safe. I didn't get hit in the ear.

You ain't got the Conor McGregor's? I wasn't fitting to fight this dude over his girl like i was just like why am i why am i here like so yeah yeah sometimes you shouldn't travel too far for pussy you shouldn't travel too far don't travel too far for pussy. Or in someone's total different territory where you don't know nobody. Fuck that. Right. So let me ask because

I know we touched on it earlier. But there was a stigma of going commercial right like going to the other side right and what's dope about you is we don't think you went to the other side

we still believe you're iced right right the same nigga pretty much we see you play a cop on TV, but we know that nigga might still shoot you. That's real shit. It's acting. I'm as far from a cop as you possibly could get. That's acting.

I can act like a cop. I can act like a slave owner. I'm acting. I learned that acting is acting. Now, how you perceive it, I don't really give a fuck. If you want to make the mistake and think that, you know, that I'm not, whatever, that's your mistake, you know. I did a record with R.J. Payne, the first lyric, I walk around with the rocket in my hoodie pocket. Your biggest mistake is thinking I'm fake.

So if that's what you choose to do, play yourself. But no, as far as being commercial, I never would do clean versions of my records. I was really adamant about not doing clean versions. Did you do clean versions? Yeah, I was trying to get that bread i was so so so like stubborn i thought that was selling out and then nwa did it

and they made a lot more money but a lot of records there's no clean versions of ice tea records i i still hate doing it even when i I do Body Count, I do it all raw. And then they're like, can we clean it up? It still just seems whack to me. But yeah, you know, you are in the business. You're trying to sell a record. Yo, Ice, man, I can't thank you. Oh, no.

Yeah, man. You my brother. You've always been there. Every time I've called you, you was like one of the realest, if not the realest. And not only that, a lot of people credit me and Fat Joe for having the best stories in hip hop. I learned last night that we're not even in your league. We're not even in your league. He got it.

You know what I'm saying so you the big homie are not only hip hop like you know crossing to another world and getting money in another world but definitely storytelling it's you and Slick Rick I love Rick well look one more thing let me promote something can I promote something

I'm doing an album right now called The Legend of Ice-T Crime Stories. And it's from my eight albums. It's a triple album. It's going to be vinyl because I want to make it special. And it's all my story raps from eight albums, including five unreleased songs. And the reason we titled it The Legend of Ice-T is because

a lot of things people believe in me is legend. It's not true. Because what I write, when I write music, I write faction. I write stories based on truth, but just there's some things in there, you know. So a lot of people believe

things about me that's not true so that's the legend the legend ice is in the club i knocked five niggas out okay i knocked one dude out right but the legend says it was five so that's part of the stigma like you say of who ice t is a lot of this shit's not real but if that's's what you choose, believe what you choose to believe. I'm like, you know, let's have fun with it. So that's why it's called The Legend of Ice-T Crime Stories. It's all story rhymes.

So people that like that part of my shit can dig it. It's going to be dope. And it should come out this year. Goddamn. Yeah. And let's come back to Drink Chance. We promoting it.

We doing the other fuck you got to do. Let's make some noise for motherfuckers. And what do you say? It's always a treat. Yes. When players meet, it's always a treat. Before we leave, is there anything else you want to say to the fans? Just everybody out there

That supported me, that's fucked with me I know in order to be an Ice-T fan You had to fight, you had to deal with haters You had to tell niggas, fuck you I like ice And it's been a struggle to be part of my journey But for those of you That's just how much more gangster you are

That you're willing to stand on who you fuck with. And my job has always been to make y'all proud. I know people out there got tats. They got all kind of shit. So when I fuck up, I know I let y'all down. So I'm trying to win because I know when I win, y'all win. You know, y'all get to say, that's my nigga. That's right.

So that's why I always think it's bigger than me. I got people out there that really believe in me and fuck with me in a real way. I've always been very proud that the niggas that fuck with me are the most real motherfuckers. The people that fuck with me.

My boy said, Ice, there's pre prison rap and there's post prison rap. Your post-prison rap. Your shit is post-prison rap. Motherfuckers that really been through some shit, fuck with you. You should take a shot to that, Ice. I'm going to be honest. Not a sip, a shot.

Give him some nice shit. What, you getting some on the horn? Give him some. That's what you want to do? I don't know. One more for the road. Give me some of that shit right there. Oh, he wants some on the horn.

He wants some on the horn. Get some on the horn. If I drink enough of that, I'm going to put these's some of my wine. Here's some of my wine. Get some of my wine. If I drink enough of that, I'm going to put these on and walk the fuck out of here. Let's go. You're going to speak Spanish. Be like, dale, get some play. Hold on, man. Hold up.

Hold up. Hold up. I'm going to take a look. Yeah, yeah. Make sure the cameras get that. Why the cameras ain't so good? Hey, hey, hey. No, zoom in from the front.

You got to see it. Yeah. Okay. You see this? We take off the Louboutins. This is the pimp shit you don't know about. Niggas got this pimp shit. I'm putting on these player shits because they got me so comfortable right now.

I'm so motherfucking comfortable. And this is how you end it out. Ice with a shot. Yeah. Salo. And we already fired. Salo already five solo come on yeah you know what these niggas are so used to being fake they have no reference point to real we here to show them give them a reference point right

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