Drink Champs - Episode 373 w/ Large Professor

Episode Date: July 21, 2023

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the Champs chop it up with the legend himself, Large Professor! Large Pro talks his journey in music, helping create Main Source, working with NAS and much much more! Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise for Large Professor!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com  Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps  DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions  N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Make some noise! Now in a lot of ways, this brother that we about to interview to the left of me, in a lot of ways, if his life didn't exist, I don't think I would exist. You know, the likes of putting on people like Akineli You know Nas Escobar

That is directly That lineage Lineage Yeah I don't know how to pronounce that He's a man's man He's a producer producer He's been down Putting it in

I can't believe Like you This is a person you have to just salute Like he's supposed to be like the Prince of Zamunda when he walks People throw flowers at his feet You know what I'm saying In Queens He's supposed to be like the Princess Zamunda when he walks. People throw flowers at his feet. You know what I'm saying? In Queens, he's God.

In the galaxy, in the planet, he's God. Hip hop. To hip hop, he's God. He's countless and he's a humble God. But today, we're going to be cocky for him. And we're going to give him his motherfucking flowers. Because in case you don't know who the fuck I'm talking about, I'm talking about the one, the only, honorable,

largest motherfucking brother! Now, off the top, I always wanted to ask you, how did you get that name, Large Professor? You know, that's me just talking, you know, bravado on the mic. Yo, it's the mighty Large Professor, you know what I mean? I'm in the same ranks as, like, the great Sudan and all these brothers. You know what I mean? Right, right.

The bridge and all of that. Right, right. Like, we was, you know, the guards, man. The poor righteous teachers. You know what I'm saying? So, Lars Professor is what, you know, I wanted to present my... Because, you know, you named in life. And then, if you ever got a chance to name yourself in life, what would you name yourself?

You know what I mean? Like, think about it. Yeah. So, I was like, yo, Lars Professor. That's my name. That's what I'm going to name myself. You know what I mean? I was named by my, you know, that type of thing. Yeah, that's fine. How'd you get EFN? Because E-Funk was terrible. And Funky was worse. Oh, that was your name?

Yeah, my first E-Funk was E-Funk and then Funky. Funky would have been L. How did we get E? Because my name's Eric. So then I said, let me just keep it to my initials. And it would have been L. Everything had to be with E because my name's Eric. So then I said, let me just keep it to my initials. And it's E-F-N. That's my initials.

So Lars, you've been down. You want to drink some champagne with me? Absolutely. Okay, come on. We're going to do Ace today. I did. I'm wanting some rosé.

Some rosé? Damn, you a picky nigga. You want backwards? Rosé. Come on, man. Damn, you a picky nigga. Damn, Yo Come on man You said picky nigga Yeah Yeah

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I never thought it would be this far. How about you? Did you ever think that hip-hop would be this far? Oh, no, 100%. Oh, you knew it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, because I, you know, I believe in, you know, I come from breaking, you know what I mean? Like, I knew 100%. Oh, you knew it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, because I, you know, I believe in, you know, I come from breaking. You know what I mean? Like, I knew them businessmen, they couldn't get down there and do windmills and all them power moves we was doing. So I was like, nah, we got something. We, you know, brothers be on the train, death defying feats, all types of crazy shit on the trains and everything. So that was that.

Ever and then, when you had dudes like Kool Moe D out here spitting some real intelligence on the mic, I'm like, yo, we got our own community. We good. You know what I'm saying? We good for life. So Kool J came after that, a bunch of brothers. You know what I'm saying? Rakim, with that intelligence.

And I was like, yo, we got something, man. Because we got the ignorance, but then we got brothers that could kick some shit, too. So that's when I knew We had the you know The yin and the yang There was the balance Exactly And what's great about you is

You got to work with two of the Greatest of all times Rakim and Nas And Nas You was in the studio With both of them obviously right One time One time

Cause Rakim Rakim at the time Like he was on studio, handling a lot of things. I say it like that. He was handling a lot of things. Me and Nas used to record on Eric B. and Rakim's time in studio. You know what I'm saying? And Powerplay Studios right up there. In Queens, yeah, Long Island City.

The C-Room, no. Y'all was in Y'all was down We was in that big ass So The big building So Yeah

Rakim came through one time And Nas was there And it was like a little triangle Like a little triad The guards The guards was building While we was there Wait a minute

Nah, nah, nah Hold on, hold on So you telling me That you and Nas Used to be caught on Airbnb and Rakim's downtime. When Rakim wasn't coming through, Eric was like, yo, Paul, do something with that studio time. And I had met Nas through Fatal.

And, you know, the Queensbridge is right down the block from Powerplay. So it was like, you know, we'd be in the lab. We'd be waiting for Rakim For a little while After a while You know it's like Alright the guard Coming from all the way east He might not make it

Alright so you know Let me start getting on the horn And Nas was right down the block So it'd be like Yo Lab is open bro What's up It'd be like 2, 3 in the morning

Like Mars would You know she'd answer the phone She'd be like Hello I'd be like Oh it's Professor Like yo it's Nas She'd be like Alright you know she always She like, oh, it's Professor. Like, oh, it's Nas. She'd be like, all right.

You know, she always, she ain't never, like. And this is pre-Nas. There's no Ain't Hard to Tell. There's no Ain't Hard to Tell out at this time. There's no Halftime out at this time. No, no Halftime. Getting him that studio like he's learning that. Yeah, I mean, you know, Hot Date.

Hot Date. Pick up Hot Date. Yeah, Hot Date was there. Like, Supreme Supreme Supreme Magnetic Like all the All the paid in full posse Was in there Like, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, for sure For sure That's dope Nice, nice Our show is about giving flowers My man, my man We're going to get back into that story No doubt

Our show is about giving flowers We're going to give you your flowers What you drinking over there, effing man? What you drinking? Oh, shit You ain't taking a sip, so I'm watching you You ain't taking a sip It don't count watch you. You ain't take a sip. Don't count.

This is drink time. I don't know if you remember them hot toys, bro. Who was the drunkest on them hot toys, bro? Come on, baby. Come on, man. So, you know what? Let's give them a flower. Let's give them flowers, man. Oh, man.

Oh. Oh, they real flowers Yeah man Oh man That's nice man Yes I got one That's all right

Come on Of course you got one It's been waiting for you For a while Yes yes Oh man I got one So um

Now I know I know this is like Kind of a cliche question Because it's so easy To say yes to this question Right now But did you always See the greatness in Nas?

Absolutely. Or was it something that had to come through? You know what I mean? Absolutely not. I'm saying, you know, he came from the hub. You know what I'm saying? Coming from Queensbridge already was like a, he was already like 50 points good. He was, you know, to 100.

It was like, yo, you coming from the hub, you good. Right. And then for him at that time to have the combination, you know, he had that wordplay, the humbleness, too. You know what I mean? Yo, when I was a fan of the Jackson 5, you know, things like that, it was like. How old was he when you met him?

Nah, it was like maybe like 16, 17 when I met him. Right in that shit at 16. Yeah. And these motherfuckers is 39. And how old are you? Nah, he wasn't 30. How old are how old are you? Nah How old are you? God damn it How old were you?

You were like what? Oh nah I'm only a year older than Nas I mean Yeah so you was A hundred years older So you was both young Yeah yeah yeah

Damn so Alright now I'm going to Switch it up a little bit Because Now Like because I remember Left right

I remember Before I went to jail. Right, tell me your memories of Ock. Check this out. So, it was two dudes that was the mans in my hood. It was a guy named Comedy. He's the rap named Comedy. He was actually bigger than Ock.

And then when I went to jail, the Bomb Baby came out. The Bomb Baby. The Bomb Baby and Ock shot a little piece in left back. I was like, yeah! I was like, that's where I'm from. I'm talking about Ock Ha Ha. Oh, yes. Ha Ha Ha, you're right.

We was in section five. Section five, baby. So how did you come across... El Fistbone section. El Fistbone, that's it. So how did you come across me and Ock? You know, that's bound all day.

Y'all are bound. That's bound all day. Holy shit, I'm sorry, y'all. I mean, that's what big shit's too. I don't know if that's for queens or not day John Bowne That's bound all day I'm sorry, y'all I mean, that's with big sis, too I don't know if that's for Queens or not But this is for Queens Sit right there What's that?

What's that? So, y'all think You met Ack and John Bowne That's interesting And your sister And my sister, yeah And your sister Okay, okay

Everybody, man We was in the building But, so So, was Ack rapping back then? Absolutely It was him and a guy named Ce rapping back then? Absolutely It was him And a guy named CeCe CeCe

It was CeCe John Bay John Bay was from Section 2-2 Ill-ass DJ man DJ J-O-D Big up him He was originally down With Main Source 2

But he went to the service But yeah Ack was rocking With CeCe It was somebody else We had a dude named Benny Benny was DJing with us and, you know,

we was just hobby, hobby stuff after school, man. Right. You know, yeah. You know what's crazy? I was telling this story earlier. I had not known how Nas looked,

how you looked. The first time I actually seen y'all was Brooklyn Queens Day. And y'all, it was Brooklyn Queens Day. I was a little dude and I remember Nas had a safari hat on.

I didn't even know you. With the shorts. With the shorts. I'm a kid in the, and I remember Nas had a safari hat on. I didn't even know you. With the shorts. With the shorts. I'm a kid in the crowd, and I'm looking, and I see y'all performing, and it was that. It was like, after Granddaddy at You, it was that very moment. I looked on the stage. I said, whatever the fuck they doing, I'm going to do that shit.

No doubt. So you don't even know how much you inspired me. You was in the cut, man. You was in the cut. I was't know how much you inspired me. I was a little nigga watching y'all. But so let me ask you because this line literally changed my life. I never heard a rapper say this. When he said, when I was 12, I went to hell for snuffing Jesus.

Like, that was like a stop for love. That was preposterous. for life It was preposterous Yeah it was preposterous That was the point of the line For a project dude From Queensbridge To think he could possibly Have that much power

To get Jesus You know what I mean Like it was preposterous It's crazy but It worked man It got him where he needed to be With just all of that Extreme just

Preposterous shit. Like, yo, you know, I'm hanging, like the kooka, you know, and it was crazy. Yeah, so.

And it was needed at the time. Exactly. The other line was, what was the other line? Waving automatic guns at nuns. That was on Back to the Grill again.

Back to the Grill again. Because, because like, like me and Nas, like, you know, I speak to Nas a lot now, you know, in our older years.

And, you know, at times he would tell me when I was bringing up Illmatic, and he was like, yo, you know, I speak to Nas a lot now, you know, in our older years. And, you know, at times he would tell me when I was bringing up Illmatic, and he was like, yo, Nori, you don't know how hard it was making that album. Because I was in jail when Illmatic came out, so all I got to see is the beauty of Illmatic. You was in the group home or jail?

I was in jail. Oh, jail. GFY, that's the vision for you, brother. That's correct. That's the group home. That's jail, sir. That's Sparford. You was in Sparford? Yes, I was in Sparford as well, sir. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. All of those.

All of those. All of those. Sparford, Goshen. He said Goshen. Yeah, that's one of them I was in there. Yeah, I was a different kind of guy. I was a different kind of guy. No doubt.

But, so, when I speak to Nas, he tells me, like, it wasn't, because I'm looking at it, I just see the five mics I just see U, Q-Tip, Premiere, P-Prop And you hear that fire And you hear that fire And I hear that fire But I don't see the struggle

Of Ill Matt Was it a time Where people was Frontin' on Nas? Oh to begin with Man For real From the start man

Yo when they brought Nas' demo to Russell Russell was like Nah he sound too much like G-Rap. Yeah, Serge told us some of that stuff too. Yeah. It was crazy. And, you know, we was in the same camp, though.

That's what he wasn't seeing. It was like, yo, Nas is actually a descendant of G, so you should, you know, accept the new generation type shit. But Russell ain't have that, you know what I mean? He ain't know that force. Wow. But yeah, nah. Russell front of them. Russ, you're fucked up. Yeah, yeah, Russ, Russ have that, you know what I mean? He ain't know that force. Wow. But yeah, nah. So Russell front of them.

Russ, you're fucked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Russ, Russ, Russ, Russ. Come on, baby. You sleep, you eat, you don't shovel no snow. You don't even go to the disco. You got to go.

So I'm going to bounce it around a little bit because we want to get through stuff. So there's a famous line that Jay-Z said. He said, I told you your first tech on tour with Lars Professor.

Is that true? Well, I don't know if it was Nas' first time seeing the tech. Okay. The story is true. The story is true. He did pull out a tech on the bus. Not on. He didn't pull out like.

No, not on the whole bus. Yeah, yeah. To show it. We had a little problem out in D.C. I think it was D.C. I really strongly believe it was D.C. And so what happened was, you know, it'd be them curfews. Once you get out of New York, it'd be like, yo, you got to cut this at two or something like that. So it was like, kept running and running. And by the time we were supposed to perform, they was like, yo,

y'all can't even get. So it wasn't even the faculty. It the crowd That was like Yo Nah y'all Y'all gotta perform Like So the crowd was kind of Coming at us And so they was like Big up my man Big hat man

Harry O. Forbes Man hat was like Yo y'all come He in the biz video man He's in the Something for the radio Big hat man Big up man

He was like Yo y'all come this way It was Jay Jazz Me Nas I I think Ja Rule Might have even been there Cause Irv was on that On that tour too He was like, yo, y'all come this way. It was Jay, Jazz, me, Nas, Ike.

I think Ja Rule and them might have even been there because Irv was on that tour too. And we all got on the bus. And Jay was, it was funny because Jay was in the back. He was in like that, you know, that one when you're going in the row and that seat that you could see when you're going back. Like that seat that looks at the person that's walking. And sure enough, he had the gym bag and shit And he was like

Yo nah Y'all ain't gotta worry About nothing and shit And he had that He had that heat He had that heat I was like Woo

Man thank you man Like yo bro I got records But you know I ain't even worried Like yeah That shit was alright man That shit was alright

Big up Jay Did you You know Cause um You know hearing the stories These are probably Two of the Big rappers in the world, two giants. Did you see them in competition from the beginning, or is that something that developed?

Not really, man. Yo, I did not see, like, that whole little scrap. I didn't see it, man. You know, because Jay was just super cool, and he had his, you know, he had his bread. So I'm like, I ain't understand, you know, but. Because Jay was just super cool, and he had his bread. So I'm like, I didn't understand. But for the sport, we sportsmen too. So for the sportsmanship side of it, it was just like, yo, let me ruffle some feathers real quick.

And it was good because it brought Nas to that other lane. He knew how to back him off too. He knew how to say that fly guy thing. It was good because It brought Nas It brought Nas Into that other lane Of like yo He know how to Back him off too Like he know how to Say that fly guy Thing you know But he also know

How to back him off So it was good for Nas man Like You ever heard The original Eater I was there when They recorded it The original one

I was there With Swish Beatz With Swish Beatz With Swish Beatz I was there when They recorded it He was all there Jungle Wiz Everybody was there when they recorded it. We was all there.

Jungle, Wiz, everybody was there. That's the Aaliyah playing Crash Line. Yeah, we was wilding. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We was wilding. If that would have came out, that would have been horrible. Yeah, it was crazy. It was crazy. You know what it was?

I felt like when I heard it, I felt like that was an emotional nod. It wasn't a strategic nod. But that's why it got strategic when he got the slower beat. Yes. And then he buffered it a little bit. Because there was some lines in there that was a little crazy. But still in all, it was one of the greatest battles of all time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was. I remember New York. It was Battle of the Beats. And I remember I'm walking into a meeting. And Battle of the Beats came on. And I was walking into a meeting and Battle of the Beats came on and I was like, fuck this meeting. I just said, fuck it. I stood outside in the radio,

I mean, turned on the radio and I missed the whole meeting. I could not move. And I tell you, the closest thing that came to that was after Drake dropped Meek Mill, and then when Forkmaster Flex said,

I got Meek Mill's response, and I straight up called my wife. I was like, I'm missing my flight. Oh, that's crazy. I have to hear this. I can't. She's like, you have to hear what I said. Meek and Drake is dropping both records today.

But Drake and Common was kind of ill, too. Drake and Common. Ice Cube and Common was dope, too. But Drake and Common was kind of ill too. Drake and Common, you know, were women. Ice Cube and Common was dope too. Ice Cube and Common was kind of crazy. Common called them Canada Dry or something like that? Yeah, something like that on that shit. Yeah, that was crazy. What are some of the greatest hip-hop records,

beef records? Ice Cube against N.W.A.? I hate The Bridge Is Over. The Bridge, oh. I hate The Bridge Is Over. I can't stand it. I cannot listen to it. What do you mean you hate it? It's one of the best. It's one of the best. I hate the bridge is over. I can't stand it. I cannot listen to it. What do you mean you hate it?

It's one of the best. It's one of the best. You a Q Burrow. You a Q Burrow thorough. Like, bro, bro, if I tell you this, man, yo, there's just recent footage of that man performing that song, like, blocks away from left rack. Like, just recently.

Who, KRS? Yes, man. I feel like you didn't want to say his name. cares yes i feel like you didn't want to say his name i can't attend that man i can't attend that man let me tell you what's so dope about carol's one carol's woman do a a performance and give you a whole speech and you don't even know you're in a speech. He's a legend. But we had MC Shan on here. Shan didn't let it go.

Shan did not. I don't think Shane is at all letting it go from what I'm noticing. Shan did not let it go. Shan is a prophet, man. And Shan, let Shan do Shan. Shan, you can learn from Shan Yes Pick up the MC Shan

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Come on, God. You know what I'm saying? Listen, by the way, I didn't even know that it was a part of it that existed. He was the first person. I'm like, yo, this nigga in the cuts and crevices of the... No, Shane was amazing. He was amazing. He was amazing.

Oh, man. Y'all got quick time with Slav? It's ready? You got that hookah? That hookah. You smoking that hook You was amazing. Oh, man. Y'all got Quick Time with Slav? All right. It's ready? You got that hookah? You smoking that hookah? That hookah. You smoking that hookah?

Smoking that hookah. Holy moly guacamole. I'm ready for Quick Time with Slav. My man, Roy Wadage in the building. Oh, look at that. Yeah, you got the old lady for dinner. Oh, Supreme. Supreme.

Supreme in the building. Oh, that's the one. He was like, yo, yo, P. You know, because we've been hanging out, you know, around the building. Word. That's the one. He was like, yo, yo, P. You know, because we've been hanging out, you know, around the way or whatever. We was just at the Sweet Chick joint, chilling with the Rock Marcy and Alchemist joint. You know what I mean? He's like, yo, man, OG, man, it's time for you to do the champs, man. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

I was like, Supreme, if you say it, man, if you say it, all right, man. And we've been trying to do it for a while. You know that. You know that, man. Nah, But you know You are absolutely a legend man You deserve your flowers And that's what our show is about

Our show is about You know Where's the mother flowers at I need the other flowers Bud You got Bud You got Bud Yeah

You got Bud for you Yeah cause In our game Like when you have 10 years or more People wanna you know Call you washed up And say you you know, you're old. That's not true in no other genre of music. It's only true in hip-hop.

So, we want to change that. Depending on how you're looking at it, you know, because washed up. Them young niggas be trying to get us the fuck out of there. Washed up means you clean. Nah, the bad way washed up. No, they don't mean it the good way. No, no, they mean it the good way No no They mean it the bad way

Is that the old The mind bopper So You know we wanted to give you Your flowers man You know what I'm saying You deserve that man And what's crazy about it man

You're just You're Boris and Diego You got the calm The fuck Damn Y'all distracting me Womp womp Womp womp

You're distracting But Your discography, who's your favorite artist you would like to work with? That I would like to work with or that I did work with? Both. Okay.

One that you would like to. And then you have to work with. I definitely, I got to get, I mean, I just recently got a Lox joint, but I got to get a Dolo Jada. Ben had my styles,

me and Styles, that's brothers. You know, he originally from Corona, right? No. He did tell us that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Styles from Corona. So I got with him and I got to get a dolo luch joint. So I got to get like a dolo jada kiss joint and a dolo luch joint. You ain't going to say

Dr. Dre. You can say the locks. Yeah, the locks. Are you crazy? I mean, that's easy. You're like, somebody. Dr. Dre. You can say The Lox. Yeah, The Lox. Are you crazy? I mean, that's easy. You're like, somebody. Dr. Dre. Yeah.

Oh, what, me and Dre rhyming on something? Yeah. Oh, that would be hard. That would be crazy hard. Or collaborating on a beat together would be crazy. Oh, nah, he do the beat and I just rhyme on it. That'd be, whew. That boy, man.

For years, that's no, no. That's a hard. I can see that I can see how that studio session looks Yeah yeah You and Dre in there The bombs bursting in Over the studio and shit

Motherfucking fireworks bursting The whole session Fireworks just going off Over the whole session Oh Now who's your favorite artist to work with? That grinch does it all Busta Rhymes

Get out of here And these times There's You know it varies Throughout the Throughout the days and years But I would say right now

Cause he He Busta stayed on active duty Like some dudes Fade into the You know what I mean Busta shit get right and shit And another one

I would like to work with Man my man Phab man Phab man This nigga's name in New York This nigga's name in New York Frank Sinatra Nah This nigga's name in Phab and shit. And another one I would like to work with, man, my man Fab, man. Fab, man. This nigga's name in New York, nigga. Fab, man.

This nigga's name in Frank Sinatra. Nah. This nigga's name in Fab and the Lock. You all right. Well, Sinatra would have stayed

with my man. That's a real New York. What's up, man? You guys are queez, queez, queez, queez, queez right now. That's a real New York shit right there.

Yeah, for sure, man. You know how it is, man. That's where I'm at, man. That's where I'll be at. Fab and the Locks. Yeah. That's your dream collab. Oh, nah. He said he had the Locks. You know how it is, man. That's where I'm at, man. That's where I'll be at. Fab and the locks. Yeah. That's your dream collab. Oh, nah. He said he had the locks. You said you had.

Yeah, I got the locks. He got the record with the locks. Adolo Jada and Adolo Lutz joint. Yeah, for sure. Okay. For sure. I mean, there's many more. I got a to-do list. You know, I got a long to-do list, man. That's what'll keep me here for a while. Who else on the to-do list? Oh, man. I just said something to Grandmaster Kaz, actually. If you want to go to the other end of the way. That's what'll keep me here for a while. Who else wants to do the list? Oh, man. I just sent something to Grandmaster Kaz, actually.

If you want to go to the other end of the way. That's dope. That's crazy. And it's fire. I bet. It's fire. So, I just sent Poet something. Poet? Yeah, we're going to go back to New York now. You ain't leaving New York. But hold up. Alright, so now, if you want to talk about artists like Young Dro

was always ill to me. Okay. Young Dro was always super ill to me. T.I. is always ill to me. Okay. Young Dro was always super L to me. T.I. is always L to me. I could hear you and T.I. together. I could hear Ross on the joint. Oh, Ross?

Yeah, I could hear Ross. Ross. Ross, that's luxury bars right there. You got some luxury bars on there? Right, right. Yeah, nah, yo,

all that, man, all that. Luxury bars. Let's make some noise with luxury bars. That was hard. He just painted the genre. Luxury bars, that was hard. Nah for luxury bars. That was hard. That was hard. He just painted the genre. Luxury bars.

Luxury bars. That was hard. Nah, we listeners, man. Yo, man, why you don't... You know what song don't get enough credit, man? Who? The shit you and Pete Rock did, man. That vitamin shit, man.

That shit is... Shit. I forgot I got a rock train with Pete Rock. Yo, listen, man. How could you forget that? Everybody right now, put that song on your playlist and go sit in a staircase somewhere. Go just go sit in a staircase with a bottle or something and listen to that shit.

That shit is, and you have your own party. Our joint. Oh, our joint is. That was my favorite on that project. I was like, yo, man, why this dude wait so long, man? We done been, yo, this dude, man. But the industry does that. You know what I'm saying?

It does that. You know what i'm saying it does that you know what i'm saying be like yo nah you old school but that was a great thing and you know what was great about that I was just speaking to my man Hazardous And he said You know You were his joint And then he goes

Oh yeah Haz He goes He goes with Prodigy And that's how powerful the video was Oh now Haz did the whole Omega album Yeah

Yeah Shout out Hazardous He's an engineer He's a legend How powerful it was He mentioned it Like it was me You and Prodigy Because Prodigy was He mentioned it It was me, you, and Prodigy Because Prodigy was in the video

At the time people thought Me and Prodigy was beefing So we did like a standoffish And then we smacked five And then it was all up I see what you're doing, man I see what you do, man And you definitely be taking

That page out of Oxbook Where you, you know what I'm saying Take control The whole, yeah, the whole. I mean, I think so. You know, we here. We here. We here, bro.

Why wouldn't we? Why wouldn't we? We here, bro. We here. For sure. Holy moly. Welcome, holy. So, all right.

Come on. You want to do a quick camera swam? Yeah, we got it. Spread them the rules? We're going to give you two choices. Pick one. I ain't drinking no crazy shit. This is all I'm doing.

Are you going to drink shots of that? That's all I'm drinking. It is what it is. Okay, so what? So, two choices. You pick one. I ain't drinking no crazy shit. This is all I'm doing. You didn't drink shots of that? That's all I'm drinking. It is what it is. Okay, so what? So two choices. You pick one. We not drinking. But you say both or neither we drinking.

So you got to pick one, basically. All right, cool. You don't have to, bud. I could do that. All right, let's set it off. Okay, you go first. Biggie or Big L? Let me get my shot ready, though.

I'm going to say Big L. Okay. Got any good Big L stories? The picture of his album cover, that first album cover, is my grandmother building. Oh, wow. Wow.

That's where I went. That was grandma's house. You know what I'm saying? Wow. In Manhattan? Right there on 139th and Lenox. That's grandma's house. You know what I'm saying? So that's where I was going for Thanksgiving.

You know all that fly shit we do? You know what I'm saying? We go see grandma and shit. That's where I was going. Rest in peace. And plus, because you know, Big is the same. We was the same age. You know what I'm saying? So Big, that boy, he's in my heart forever. You never got to work with Big, Big, you know, Big is the same. We was the same age, you know what I'm saying?

So Big, that boy, he's in my heart forever. You never got to work with Big, though, right? I didn't, man. I met him once with Bus, man. We was going to get them chip phones, man. I remember, man, motherfucking, my man Fresh Gordon was chipping the phones at the time and shit. And Bus had the plug and shit, and he's like, yo, P. And so I went, and Bus, they had like a long night, I think, and shit, and he was still up for the morning and shit.

And he's like, yo, Flatbush. So I met him, and Bus was living right there on Flatbush Avenue. Wow. Like right downtown. Like, yo, honestly, right now, where he was living is diagonal from where the Barclays is. Wow. Bus, that's where he was living. So boom, I cameclays is. Wow. That's where he was living. So, boom, I came.

He's like, yo, I'm going to make one stop. And then he stopped off and dropped big off. I was like, oh, shit, you had that nigga? And I was like, yo. And he's like, yo, give me a beat, man. I was like, yeah, hell yeah. And that was it, man. Yeah, Biggie on a large pro beat.

It would have been crazy. Oh, that's crazy. It would have been crazy. Oh, that's crazy. Now, I felt the connection because, like I said, we was the same age. So Now I felt the connection Cause like I said We was the same age So I felt the connection like And he was just a wild out nigga Like we was wild out

Dudes like All that barbecue shit Oh There's some wild out shit You know what I'm saying So like And he just said Some wild out shit

He was saying some flagrant Like wild shit At times You know So I felt that vibe Like yo It was the same Along the same lines as Nas.

Right. Wow. Wow. Tupac or DMX? DMX. Okay. Rest in peace, both. Lost Boys or Onyx?

Lost Boys. I grew up with Mr. Cheeks. We used to breakdance in the hallway, God. We just had Cheeks on. Yeah, that's, that's. That's the first time, the first time he's ever talked about Freaky Tile on camera. Yeah. And I didn't realize that. I was, I was just. Oh, no on. Yeah, that's... The first time he's ever talked about Freaky Tile on camera.

And I didn't realize that. I was just in... He never talked about it. Big up J-Rab, Chief of Staff, man, for real. That's who I grew up with in Flushing, and that's Cheeks' cousin. So we was like breakdancing days, like, from way back, like, me and Mr. Cheeks. As a matter of fact,

on Main Source album, on the Breaking Adams album, there's a shout-out to Lost Boys on it. Wow. Way before they came out. Wow. Andeks. As a matter of fact, on the main source album, on the Breaking Adams album, there's a shout out to Lost Boys on it. Wow. Way before they came out. Wow. And they was just a crew? They was just a crew, yeah. That's Mr. Cheeks, yeah.

I mean, super love to my man. You know, when I see him, you know, we going to get together and shit. My man, Fred, your motherfucking stick. Because my story, my peripheral story To that is Shallow Shy Skills You know what I'm saying The man that

Produced the Onyx album You know The first Onyx album Slam Throw Your Guns I grew up with Shallow You know what I'm saying Shy Skills

That's my man He grew up in Flush building You know what I'm saying Down cold in this shit Like Some of them records That was used for the Onyx album Is my records

You know what I mean Like He was You know what I mean Like we That was Flush Flush and Shallow

And Mike Like We We gonna get into that Or not Yeah We'll come back We got a little power

Yeah We'll come back Cause we Go through this Core Mega Or Mike Geronimo Core Mega Why you saying it like that?

Cormega. Nah, Cormega. All right, now my story with Mike. Mike Geronimo, when my parents said, yo, you could go outside by yourself for the first time, the first person I met was Mike Geronimo. Wow. I think he said that here.

No, no, yeah, I think he did. When they said, when I always had to go outside with my pops, my sister, whoever, whatever, and the first time they said, yo, you can go outside by yourself, the first person I met was Mike Geronimo.

Mike Geronimo. Where was this at? In Carlisle, Flushing, Queens. Yeah, Carlisle Towers, Flushing, Queens, New York. Wow. Word. I remember he was over there.

That was my first friend. And he called you Paul or something. Paulie. Yeah, we don't ever call you Paul. We call you large professor. We give you that respect. No doubt, my man. Give you that respect. Give you that respect, or something. Paulie. Yeah, we don't ever call you Paul. We call you large professor. We give you that respect. We'll give you that respect, my brother. Paulie.

Nah, that was me, man. Paulie, man. That's how your sister would know me. Okay, cool. Your sister would say Paulie. Yeah. ASR 10 or SP 1200? ASR 10.

Okay. Absolutely. Because the SP 1200, I want to explain some of these decisions too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because the SP 1200, I was effed up, man, because I was trying to hold on to that shit, man. God bless moms, man. Moms, my moms was like. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network,

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Like, all right, how much is that? You know what I mean? She knew what I needed. You know, she's like, nigga, you gonna go fuck them sneakers up. This shit, I know you're going to. So it was that type of thing. That's smart. That is smart.

So I was always like SP-1200 out. I might have died in a grave. Like, they might have, like, been burying me with, like, with an SP-1200. Like, that's how much SP. For real, like. And then, like, RZA and all these dudes, Moe B, all these honorable producers,

they start coming out. And then like, you know, I'm geek out and shit. I'll be like, yo, what machine are you using? What's this? And, you know, yo, the ASR-10, the 3000, the disc. Nah, fuck that. The SB-1200, man, that's my shit. I'm killing them with that.

And then the reason why is because the SB-1200, when you tune your drums, it's going to start crapping out. On the ASR-10, when you tune your drums, it'll sustain. And it's simply, you know, just functions. Yeah, just functions. You know what I mean?

The ASR-10 does more than the SB-1200. That's why I say that. Okay. All right. So great producer fucking breakdown right there, guys. I mean, you're the next one.

So, it goes right into the next one. Analog or digital? Analog. Analog, yeah. Analog, and then you could go to digital because it's going, digital is going to preserve

that analog, that funk, that bump from the analog. Yeah. See, no one's ever said that's the smartest way to answer that.

That is the smartest way Because you could do, you could start at analog and then you could transfer the digital digital yeah it's that funk that bump whatever that is that you got an analog that you know what you're doing yeah it's gone and then you just did did you you know did you always say that's probably cutting you off i always say that the music back then was better because of analog because we had to make it together it was communal. Analog made it communal.

Like right now, you can send me a beat. I could be in Paris. Who's unprofessional? You could be in Paris. I could be in Russia, and we could still make a record together. But if we both been flushing, if we both been left racked, if we both been Queens, if we both been Powerplay Studios, how much better would it come?

Yo, man, that hands-on thing. That physical collaboration is nothing like it. I got my man. I was just working the other day with my dude, Dennis Kelman, man, yo. And we was doing it like that, man. He from the Hearst. He from East Elmhurst. He on the rise, yo.

We was in the lab doing it like that, man. I was actually in the studio. I had the drum machine. He was in there. Like, it was crazy. I was like in the studio. I had the drum machine. He was in there. It was crazy. I was like, damn. Then the engineer, James Mullen, he's like power play alumni.

So we in there building. The power play is still there? The building is still there. You know Axe and them is still in there. You know Axe is going to always be in that building. Axe is still there, man. Hell yeah. Okay. Illmatic or Ready to Die?

Illmatic. I would say so too, sir. Illmatic. Nas or Jay-Z? You going to drink? That's hard. You going to drink? It's champagne anyway.

Because you talking about two cool niggas that made it, man. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, damn. You could take a drink. Yeah, I'll take a drink to both them brothers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To both of them brothers.

I can never. Word up. Nah, he going to drink champagne. I'm going to stick with champagne too. I'm going to take a light one. They both Project Brothers. They both Project Brothers. They both Project Brothers that made it. Would you like to see them in verses?

I mean, honestly, I think Jay would win because he got just a lot more people anthems. You know what I'm saying? Nas got... And it depends on the setting also. If we down the block at Museum, that Nas... You know what I mean? But if we, like, in some arena, some type of shit like that, like, I think Jay, because just, like, you know, like, he just got them people anthems, that is just, it's bananas.

Right. Like, you know, Nas got them heaters, though. Nas got motherfucking on the real. Put on a level five. On the real. See, that's how Nas would kill him if he just go to the gutter like Nas would

like do on the real do motherfucking I did it my way like the B side joints yeah yeah the B side I just called her a double of that album

on vinyl the the lost tapes yeah and the other joint what's the joint we was listening to Nes man

you gotta love it you gottaes man You gotta love it You gotta love it You gotta love it Clears a lot of shit out You gotta love it It clear a lot of shit out A lot of niggas got Like they

You gotta heap up Like four or five Or six songs Cause Nas could just Put on You gotta love it back on You know what I mean It just clear niggas out

And to tell you the truth If he was to perform The whole Elmatic And No Ideas Original No Ideas Original You know what I mean? And just clear niggas out. And to tell you the truth, if he was to perform the whole El Matto. And no ideas original. No ideas original. So he just not paying attention to them heaters. He got heaters that if he switch his show, it gets treacherous.

It gets dangerous. We're going to see him next week. You got to start doing that Vitamins on stage In your show That's Pete Rock shit You're listening man Big up Rod Digger

Because we was in V8 And we was doing the show As a matter of fact You was on the show We was Redman You I think

I was there with DITC Lord Finesse And all of them It was a nice show In V8 And Rod Digger She was doing a sound check And I was like D DITC Lord Finesse and all of them It was a nice show And V8 And Rod Digger She was doing a sound check

And I was like Digger you doing that That Pete Rock joint And she was like I don't know And I was like Nah you got to You got to

And I seen Digger like Not too long ago And she's like I'm still doing the Pete Rock joint Like yo So you too man You got to do that Pete Rock shit That vitamin shit is, man. You got to do that Pete Rocks shit.

That vitamin shit is crazy. Everybody, get that on your playlist now. That shit crazy. Juice or New Jack City? Juice. He's just mad easy. Yeah, Juice. He's just the easiest quick time.

Juice is hip hop. That's me right there. Pac is in Juice. Crazy? Yeah, that inspired me to want to DJ. Have you ever met Tupac Hell yeah He called me

Professor Maine Sauce Yo that's my nigga Professor Maine Sauce What's up That's amazing That's amazing I love how he just Knocked it out about it

Yeah Pac Pac was Cause they You know Cali Cali I think They like that The friendly game

Of baseball joint Cause I You know I was I was I think they like the friendly game of baseball joint. You know, I was... No, no, no. You talking about motherfucking faking the fuck that. Faking the fuck that. Get out of here. Get that. My bad.

Get that. My bad. I was ready. I'm ready. Yo, but they rock with the friendly game of baseball joint. And so, you know, like I had a lot of love early from Cali brothers. Like, they was like... So, Pac was one of them, man. He was always like, yo, that's my nigga, Professor Mane Sauce.

What's up, baby? I got the flick. So you met him in Digital Underground, Dave? Digital Underground. No, right when he was getting ready to do his thing. Tell him to shut up. It must have been kind of crazy, though, when everything started popping off. Oh, when everything's, yeah, no, I mean, because it's just another one of them brothers though When everything started popping off Oh when everything Yeah nah I mean

Cause it's just another one Of them brothers That's just like Popping off Like I'm It's like the fireworks You just see them shit Start popping off

You like Oh shit that one Oh that one over there You know it was like that With everybody Like Nas Like Apache Like you know what I'm saying

Like you just seeing Everybody popping off Like oh shit Word MCing or DJing? DJing Okay Cause you running your mouth

That shit ain't You know what I mean You gotta keep running Your fucking mouth You know what I'm saying You know Just keep running your mouth Right

You know what I'm saying Like yo Alright nah But just playing some tunes That shit is forever We could do that shit For four hundred thousand hours Right

You know what I'm saying Just shut your fucking mouth Like yo Just listen to the000 hours. You know what I'm saying? Just shut your fucking mouth. Like, yo, just listen to the records and shit. You know what I'm saying? For real. Yeah. Yeah. For real.

Coogee Rap or Lord Finesse? Oh, man. That's going to definitely be another drink right there. Right. Woo. I love both of them brothers, man. I love... Yo, because Finesse, Finesse, first and foremost, both of them is bosses.

You know what I'm saying? I'll tell you the story. Like, Finesse was the first brother that came to me. Like, you know, in New York, we was kind of like, yo, the offices, the office, you know, the office. We wasn't like them brothers down south where it's like, yo, fuck that. We're going to press our own shit up and do what we do. You know what I mean? It was like, yo, we're going to go to the office real quick, see if we can get it.

Bah. But Finesse was one of the first brothers that came to me and was like, I finished the remix. I'm like, yo, so I'm going to go to the office. And she's like, no, no, no, I got you. I got you. And he reached in his pocket and was like, bong, that's you right there, shit.

And I'm like, oh, shit. So that was one of the first brothers I seen boss up on his own where he was an all-in nigga. You I seen, like, boss up, like, on his own. Like, where he was an all-in nigga. You know what I mean? You know, when you get the budget. You talking about Finesse? Finesse, yeah.

Wow. So he had the independence state of mind. When you get the budget and you disperse the funds. You know what I'm saying? Not the label. Like, he was an all-in nigga. Like, yo, give me the whole budget and I'm going to disperse the funds. So, and G-Rap, man.

G-Rap actually, like, that brother, man. Ain't G-Rap from Corona? He's from Corona? Yes, of course. I remember him living in Left Rack at one point. No, he was heavy in Left Rack.

Shannon's still out there, man. All the peeps still out there, man. Yeah, G, man. G taught me the finer things. You know what I mean? He's like,

treat yourself, P. Like caviar and shit like that? Not caviar, but like, finer things, you know what I mean? It's like treat yourself, Pete. Like caviar and shit like that? Not caviar, but like, you know, shrimp scampi. Like caviar and shit. Nah, shrimp scampi. That's basic diner shit, you know what I mean? I wasn't a diner nigga. I mean, when you young, that's already up there.

That's up there, yo. Yo, listen, man, I'm going to tell you a funny story, man. I'm going to tell you a funny story. Me and Fatal followed Eric B. and Freddie Foxx around for like a half an hour, like an hour. And they went to the Buccaneer Diner. The Buc used to be on the Astoria, right? Boom. So we went in there.

We sitting at the other table over there and shit. We got like, if we get something to eat man We kind of dead in the water After that Like yo If the gas run out on this shit We dead in the water I mean it's good

We local but I You know Eric B He was like yo man Get them brothers something to eat man Like yo yo So we You know I come from that type of shit man

So you know G-Rap showed me like Yo Treat yourself man Like we was in Queen Center He's like Yo Paul man You gonna get some kicks man

Yo Paul get some kicks man At a Foot Locker Word out Foot Locker and shit We in Queen Center and shit I'm like yo I'm with G-Rap Buying kicks

Like you know what I mean Like that shit was crazy man Like yo Paul man What you gonna get The steak man What you gonna get the steak man What you gonna get man You gonna get the shrimp Yo

I'm like Nah I'm getting ready To get a burger and shit And they're like Nah nigga get the shrimp I'm like Word I'm gonna do that man See what that life is about

You know yeah So we drinking to that one Absolutely man Yeah yeah yeah And they both ill lyricists A super ill lyricist man We We wandered off

They don't even remember The subject matter But Joe is crazy man big up G rap and finesse Lord Lois or brand new beer Jungle Brothers nah, I know but uh, let me see. I mean that says a lot by saying that trial core question brand new beans You know, you know for a fact that I'm going to definitely

say the tribe because that's, that's, that's my, that's, no, I'm a part of the tribe, dog.

That's right. I'm a part of the tribe. Like, that's, you know, that's, that's, that's my family

that embraced me after main source dissolved for me. You know what I'm saying? Q-Tip was coming through. He was like, yo, bro,

we not going, you not going to be in no gray area in no time, yo, bro, you're not going to be in no gray area in no time. Nigga, you actually getting ready to be better than you was. Just come through. I'm going to come get you. Come through here and there.

Yo, nah, tribe, man. But big, super, super big up to Brand Newbie because them brothers are still on active duty. And they, yo, forever, man. Like, those is the dudes I was on. Like, when my run was strong with Main Sauce, like, a lot of them bills was Main Sauce, Brand Nubian, Leaders of the New School. Wow.

That was a time. Like, you would see them flyers, like, in Denver and here Denver and here with that same lineup. So, big up Brand Newbie. Those was the road dogs. Big up John Scott, man. That was the road dog, too. That was the manager, road manager and shit. Midnight Marauders or Low End Theory?

I'm going to say Low End Theory because that was more when they was... But your face is on Men Might Amarada still, right? Absolutely. My hands, my soul, my heart, it was all through that, man. For real now, for real. He bigged me up all through that album because that's what I'm saying.

They embraced me. You know what I mean? They brought me in as a collaborator with that and it's like, yo, how you feel about this? And it was like, yo, you know, like, how you feel about this? And it was like, oh shit, like, yo,

I'm able to say something about a Tribe Called Quest record and give input into it. Like, yo, I think you need to rock the brethren drums with that. Word?

All right, let me try. Yo, that shit work. I'm going to fuck with it. Oh shit. Like, Phife was probably one of the most competitive. Dogs, no, no, no. I'm going to fuck with it. Oh, shit. Like, Phife was probably one of the most competitive. Dogs, dogs.

No, no, no. Let me, yo, Phife, man. A lot of people, I've never said this story. A lot of people don't know this. He didn't like that I jacked his line. What line? He goes, Bo know this, and Bo know that. But Bo know jack, why?

Because Bo can't rap. I said, what did I say? I said, Nori know this, and Nori know that. But Nori know gat, why? Because Nori bucked that. But Bo know Jack. Why? Because Bo can't rap. I said, what did I say? I said, Nori know this. And Nori know that. But Nori know Gap. Why? Because Nori bucked that. And Phyfe was always like, you kind of destroyed my shit.

And I was just like, what? I'm like, OG, I'm giving you love. He's like, no, I'm going to take one of your lines, Nori. I was like, yo, to the very last minute. He just ragged this shit up. He just took this shit. He was competitive. He said, you butchered this shit.

In a good way. In a good way. And when you hear stories about Kobe Bryant, or you see Michael Jordan sees Magic Johnson, and he goes, where's your sneakers at right now? That's who Fife reminded me of. So I missed the shit out of Fife, man. Rest in peace.

Yo, we used to sit in that. I am going to take a shot at Habibi. I am going to take Yeah, rest in peace. Yo, we used to sit in that. I am going to take a shot at Habiki. Yeah. I am going to take a shot at Habiki for that. Yo, we used to. For Fife. No, no.

For Fife, though. For Fife, though. For Fife, though. Yo, we used to sit in his grandmother's basement. Tip had a setup in there. And they was like. Fife's grandmother or Tip's grandmother? Fife's grandmother's basement.

That's the one that's right there by the cleaners. Okay. Where we on the Check the Rhyme video. Okay, Check the Rhyme, yeah. So diagonal from there is Fife grandma's crib. That's where the mural is at and all that, the tribe mural and all that. So yeah, we used to sit in the basement. That's when they was working on Midnight Marauders.

And yo, he used to just be sitting there Just watching the sports The sports rundown Playing the video games Just listening to us Going at the beats You know he'd be like Yo nah that shit is a hype right there You know he'd be like Yo this shit crazy right here

Me and Tippett there Like yo this shit crazy right here He's like yo that's a hype right there But he watching TV Like you know Sitting to the side And shit just listening Yeah nah

Fife Fife That's my man That's the piece Fife Word Take that drink for me Oh yeah Absolutely ODB or Bismarck to the side and shit, just listening. Yeah, nah, Fife, Fife, that's my man. That's the piece, Fife. Take that drink for me. Oh, yeah, I'm taking that drink for you. Absolutely. ODB or Bismarck? And to them as well.

To them as well. Yeah. I'm going to say ODB. Really? I'm going to say ODB because ODB encompassed it all. Like, Biz was just like, he, Biz, what I realized After all these years Was that he just always Appealed to the child in us Always

He always appealed To the most innocent part Of our lives I ain't look at it like that No To the point that he did Yo Gabba Gabba And he literally

Him and 45 King No actually This was I'm going to be honest My comedic sense I didn't get from comedians I got it from Biz Mark Me trying to mimic Biz

Because I thought When I heard Pickin' Boogers I thought that was the most Genius shit ever It was fun Because I was like I visualized him Doing everything

That he said on the record Now left frag niggas Like to have fun Yes, God damn it Left frag niggas Like to have fun You see where I took it He took it all the way I'm still in the strip club Right now Left frag niggas like to have fun You see where I took it I still

He took it all the way I still in the strip club right now Left frag niggas like to have fun I get in the strip club right now Right now He in the strip club Right now He's for life in the strip club

Marley Ma or Q-Tip? Marley Marley Marley Okay Marley Oh my God And Q-Tip would say Marley

That's right Q-Tip would say Mar That's right Q-Tip would say Molly Man Molly is the father of Of Hip hop production Period Like I was going to say Queens But like period

Like Molly's production in hip hop Like that I always like We all a part of The lineage We're all a part of Molly Man listen man When I Like cause Molly Scratch now We all a part of Mark. What is he saying? The lineage. The lineage, yeah. We're all a part of Mark. Man, listen, man. When I, like, because Molly Scratch now, when I listen to it, because that was one of the first.

I remember, bro. I listened to the radio. All that shit, man. I remember, man. When Molly Scratch came out, shit changed because he was starting to use samples. And it just sounded like some old, it sounded like he took some shit off the Flintstones, like the drums was off the Flintstones. It would sound like some bedrock shit.

It was like, boom, boom, bam, boom, bam, boom, bam, like a nigga was doing that shit on rocks and sticks or some shit. And I'm like, damn, this shit is L. But it's the equivalent of how we was doing that shit in the lunchroom. So I'm like, oh, man, this is starting to translate a little different now. We coming out of it like that, you know, because they was doing that shit In the lunchroom So I'm like Oh man This is starting to translate A little different now We coming out of like that You know

Cause they was doing the band It was like And all that shit And you like Alright cool So now he was Breaking it back down to the Yeah leaving like

The disco sound too Yeah And no hi-hat Shit like that And so it was like Alright where we going Cause this is our language now. This is the language we speak.

Like, no R&B person could come in here and say, oh, you did that wrong and nothing like that. You know, that's out of key and nothing like that. This is our language now that we speak. And if the shit is wrong,

we like it, and we rocking that shit. Yeah, it's uniquely hip-hop. Exactly. That's what we rock. So, yeah. Nah, Molly's the father of that. Like, you know, we get busy. Exactly. That's what we rock. So, yeah. Nah, Marley's the father of that. Like, you know,

we get busy, man. Tom Lip Kweli in the motherfucking building. Oh! Young bro. Young bro. That's my young bro right there.

I love him, man. You too. You know that. That's young bros right there. Lord Nance. I got all my young bros in the building, man.

Khaled need to be here too, man. Khaled. Khaled, man. That's young bro. RZA or Alchemist? RZA. I would say so. RZA, RZA.

I spoke to Alchemist yesterday too. I love Al, man. Al is my brother too. That's young bro too, man. Like Al is incredible, man. And he's just a, he's the mind boggler. Al is another,

you a mind boggler too, but, and Traz, Traz the mind boggler too. Traz a hell of a mind boggler. Al is another. You a mind boggler, too. And Traz. Traz a mind boggler, too. Traz a hell of a mind boggler. Yeah, Al, man. Big up my man, AL. AL Ski. The Hooligans.

DJ Clue. Take a shot? All right. I'm in. I'm in. Jamie, get another shot? I'll catch up. I love both of them brothers.

Can you give Tyler Kweli some Japanese whiskey? He has no choice. Exactly. You look like you're hungover already. My point exactly, my brother. You know I love you. Bro. Okay, great.

Yeah. You got the next one? Yeah. MPC 3000 or 2000? The MPC I would say the 3000 Because the sound is It's just that

It's that thick sound Alright, so what did I do on the 3000? I did I did Rewind On the 3000 With the Nas joint Rewind? Nas joint, yeah Get the fuck out of here

I did that on the 3000 I did Stay Chisel on the 3000 With the Nas joint Nas joint Yeah I did Get the fuck out of here I did that on the 3000 I did Stay Chisel On the 3000 And I Like the 2000 The 2000 That's J Love's thing

J Love is the 2000 DJ J Love Yeah DJ J Love Word up Big up J Love Man he He do his thing with that But I ain't never really get into

But the 3000 was like that thick It just got that Like yeah Get that fat kick I love how you describe it Yeah for sure It's so hip hop That's that lab talk

I probably know the answer to this one The actual sample or playing the sample over Oh the actual sample The actual sample or playing the sample over? Oh, the actual sample. The actual sample is funky. It's funky. Oh, it's funky. It's off the record. You got to have it off the record, man. You got to have it off the record, bro, man.

It's funky like that, man. You got to keep it funky. Pete Rock, Pete Rock, my man Rashard Smith. Yo, it's so many. Lower Finesse man Oh my Yo Just Blaze You know what I mean

Yo we keep it funky We keep it funky Jungle Brothers or De La Soul For now Because I said this I said this And um You know I love De La

Yo to you know But it's definitely the Jungle Brothers because they was the first brothers out. And they, when you see them perform, they've been performing a lot lately, man. And you just, you see how much sprouted from them brothers, man. Like, just the Jungle Brothers. Yeah, just a native tongue. Yeah, De La Soul. De La Soul. They got a lot of getting their masses back.

And Jungle, the JBs ain't really get they just do. You think so? I think they maybe get it now. Not really, not really. You know, how everybody was, you know, like I said, you got to think. It was like the fireworks. It was like, oh, shit, that little red. Oh, shit.

Like, everybody was popping off. And then it was like, you know what I mean? Some people, their fireworks was a little lower. In my generation, I think the Jungle Brothers dig. I don't think so, man. You don't think so? I agree. The JBs? The JBs. The JBs. That's crazy.

What's another one? Girl, I house you? Girl, I house you. What's another one? Jim Browski? Jim Browski, yeah. Can you name one without me prompting you? Nope. Probably not. Okay, no doubt.

My man, my man. But that's because I'm drunk, though. Yo, Tyler, baby. He's rocking around. He's the director of the lineage, too. Yo, we mixed up or what, man? We got the mixes ready or what? All right, cool.

No doubt. All right. Kanye or Pharrell Oh man I might have to drink to that Cause that's both young bros Kanye forgot When he gave me When he showed me love

Like It's funny I still haven't met Kanye What? I still ain't meet Kanye That's crazy Bro to this day And I have so much info for him I got this sample for

him man this shit uh this Manu Dabengo joint when they was doing the Nas and Kanye album there's this Manu Dabengo song where it sound like he's saying Kanye and Nas in the song wow and I wanted to get that message to them but it'd be you know when the industry shit start happening man it'd be so hard to get in contact with dudes how you used to. You know, like, I'll be like the direct connect. Like, yo, you know, that's how I am. Sporadic. Like, yo, oh, shit, I heard this shit.

That type of thing. So, you know, but yeah, man, I got a drink to that, man, because I love both of them. Yo, Pharrell, always show love, man. I got flicks with Pharrell, like, doing the praying hands and hugs and all that, man. But I still ain't met Kanye, man. And I have so much info for him. Like, you know, I got family in Chicago, so. But maybe you don't want to meet him right now.

Nah, man. Anytime is a good time to meet that. But musically, it would be amazing. Musically, it would be amazing. I'm the difference, man. Salud, man. Salud, man. Salud, man.

Word, man. Big up your pops, man. Bob Deep or M.O.P.? Damn, I drink a gallon now. You know what I'm saying? You got to drink a gallon, man. Yo, that's crazy. Mobb Deep or M.O.P.?

Mm-hmm. Rest in peace, Prodigy. Listen, man. I've been, you know, because I've been DJing a lot lately, so... And on vinyl, too. So I've been having my vinyl. I got my vinyl with me. For a while, you've been doing it a lot lately, so... And on vinyl, too. So I've been having my vinyl. I got my vinyl with me.

For a while, you've been doing it. Damn, we should have bought that vinyl. I wanted to bring kind of, you know, we said floor song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Grab it. I'm trying to get your friend back to DJing. But he only... Oh, he's got your vinyl?

Yeah, yeah. He only do vinyl. Because that's the thing. I didn't go digital. I didn't go digital. So you're telling me right now, you still just do vinyl? Yeah, yeah. Because that's the thing. I didn't go digital. I didn't go digital. So you're telling me right now, you still just do vinyl? Yeah.

At parties? Yeah, I prefer that because a man from my era. So who in your crew carries the crates? I do. You carry the crates? Yeah, I carry the crates. Let's make some noise for that.

Let's make some noise for that. How we getting our workout in these days? Daily, my peeps see me on the Long Island Railroad daily. Like, I'll be like, yo, boo. My man, Naz, Naz. Yo, Naz, Lord, Naz. Word up, man.

Yeah, now we do what we do. I look at Naz and I just picture the Coliseum. Picture the Coliseum. Nothing says Queens more than, nothing says Queens more than, he trying not to say Queens. Look at him, look at him. He got the Bo Jackson's

orange and blue. Mets hat. He can't even not say Queens. He from New York. Big up on my love. Sister Mac. Word up.

We do it for life. Pun or prodigy? Damn, two scorps, man. My brothers too, man. Them niggas is L, man. Peace. Let's drink. Both them niggas is L

and they was relentless, man. Like, yo, theyiggas is L man. Both them niggas is L and they was relentless man. Like yo they say some shit man just like say some shit that might bother you. That shit might bother you. Know what I'm saying? And you gotta live with that shit. Take a drink for that. Take a drink for that god damn it. Alright, Eminem or Busta staircase shit, um, Emma bus Man, I'm just shouting me out man in that speech man. I that's another brother. I haven't met still When you when you asked when I asked you earlier Artists that you would like to work with I thought he's gonna say Eminem or dr. Trey. This nigga said the locks. No, he said he already had a joint with the locks. But he said the seven.

I'm making fun of him. I'm making fun of him. I'm making fun of him. Yo, now, M, M, man, yo. He would probably, like, if I do a track up, like, I don't know if I, you know, because I sent things in before. I sent, they was like, yo, M's working.

Yo, send something. I sent things in before. To Paul Rosenberg? M is working. Yo, send something. I sent things. All right. So maybe M got to come bless something for me. You know what I mean? Maybe this has to be heard. Or just got to be heard. I ain't going to lie.

M&M would destroy a large professor beat. Oh, my God. I got to give him that. No, no. Absolutely good way. In the best way possible. Yeah. I can hear that.

I can hear that. Oh, my God. The bombs were bursting Yeah That's where we need to get With music Some of these collaborations That still need to happen

I just recently did a joint With my man Al Scratch From L.L. Scratch Love L.L. Scratch man And they still do dope shit I've been checking out Their new shit

Dope Yeah Because that's what I'm saying I did the joint with Al Scratch And that shit started ringing off. Yeah. Everybody, yo, it was, your man Los, man.

Uh-huh. Classic material. Okay, classic material. That's my man. That's my boy. That's my boy. You know, he's part of that. Like, yo, we got,

whenever you come home, man, you know, man. Listen, listen. In order to come to New York, let me give you a good example. Let me just tell you something. I'm out here six months. My life is finally getting back together, right?

Finally getting back together. I'm out here six months. I'm so happy. With Eddie Giggs in the apartment. Actually, that is that time. It is that time. Yes. So, Swift TV, Eddie Giggs.

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Listen, brother, brother, brother, listen. Nah, this is what happens, man. New York, nah, you don't have to be mad. New York will make you mad because, you know, as soon as you touch down, the fucking escalated on work. Then you got to go do this other shit. Then, nah, this bus don't work. This shit is riding slow.

So you mad. You mad. You know what I mean? Like, you know, yo, even if you in, you know, you got the luxury life and you going to do this, there's mad traffic. You know, you like, man, fucking let me even if you got the luxury life and you're going to do this, there's mad traffic. You know, you're like, man, fucking let me just stop

off at Farmer's and get some butter real quick. You know what I mean? I'll be honest because when I first moved to Miami, I wouldn't see a lot of people. And then I remember where I was staying at.

I was staying in the Western on 40th Street. And I went downstairs to smoke a cigarette. I was still smoking cigarettes at the time. I went downstairs to smoke a cigarette. I was still smoking cigarettes at the time. I went downstairs to smoke a cigarette

and it felt like 30,000 people just walked by me. So I ran back upstairs to the hotel and I watched. You a New Yorker, motherfucker. You had to get this thing together.

A pep talk. And then I went back downstairs and I smoked a blunt. And I was like, yeah, motherfucker, I'm back home. That's some movie shit. I'm back home

because you got to realize it is a different world. See, Miami is a party town, but if you don't want to party, you don't have to party out here. You can actually be low. But I noticed that now when I go back to New York, I got to build up my attitude. NWA or Wu-Tang Clan?

You passed up Akineli? No, Akineli or Nature Oh, you gotta ask that I just did Akineli or Nature You know I gotta go with Ack Rock Akineli

He in the strip club right now Finger popping songs Ack Rock, man Ack Rock Ack is the illest, bro Yo, Ack, man Shout out Nature, though Shout out Mama Love

Shout out Yachty Shout out, yo, Ack, man. Shout out Nature, though. Shout out Mama Love. Shout out Yachty. Shout out, yo, Ack is my brother like no other, man. For real, man. I love Ack. Yo, man. And who else was he against? Nature. Oh, Nature.

Come on. Nature. Jermaine Baxter. We call him Jermaine Yaxter. All right, well, see, Nature's a beast. Me and Nate still, that's another one of my peoples that I got to, you know what I mean? I got to get that working with, you know? Like, I think me and Nate might be around the same age, too.

Right. Yeah, yeah, for real, yeah. Probably. Nate is L. Nate is L. He's a slick, he's elusive. He'll throw you off. You think he's going to, he's, whoo.

Yeah, Nate's just L. Yeah. NWA or Wu-Tang? NWA. NWA. And that's ill because I just picked up my vinyl of Efu Zaggin.

The N.W.A. joint. Ooh. The Efu Zaggin, the Niggas for Life backwards joint. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That album is crazy. So who you picking, sir?

Let's talk about, nah. I'll take a shot. Let's talk about that album. Nah, but Wu-Tang. Wu-Tang. There's too many motherfucking bands. And the lineage for both of them is crazy, too. No, but it's too many bangers.

Lord Nez just put me on to the Soul in the Hole soundtrack Banger That shit is crazy I just got that on vinyl You talking about projects You talking about heaters You talking about that St. Ives commercial You talking about the stomp

You talking about Wu-Tang really did what they said They came and swarmed niggas With mad bangers, man Yo, it's too When youTang really did what they said they they came and swarmed niggas with mad bangers man yo it's too when you are a music person like I am I'm getting ready to do um 151 on Avenue C and LES on June 6th coming up all my people's gonna come out they're gonna it's gonna be packed in there and I'm bringing out all that Wu-Tang I'll be bringing out that Wu-Tang shit I'll be bringing out all that umced by Pete Rock shit.

All that Adored. Let It All Hang Out. Down With The King and all that fly shit. The Kings. We be killing them, man. Crazy. Just bringing all that nostalgia back. The Youngins is right there.

My man Late For Dinner is in here. He's 100% down with that. This man is early 20s. He's right there with that shit. Yes, that's what it is. So I feel great about these times, man. It's great times right now. So LL Cool J or Big Daddy Kane?

Man. Take a shot? Definitely, man. I love both of them. He said that. Definitely, man. Yo, um. You didn't give Tyler

no Japanese whiskey? Give him. Okay, all right, all right. I'm watching. Yeah. Yo, um You ain't give Tyler No Japanese whiskey, give him Oh, okay, all right, all right I'm watching Central, Queens Yeah I heard y'all talk about that LLQ check out

Yes, we are As soon as we finish this I don't know anything about it, bro It just came out No, it didn't come out Did you hear it? Did you hear it? I heard it

Because I heard Maceo Text me the other day Talking about it I heard that joint I produced For you and Yaseen Yaseen I heard that joint I produced for you and Yassin. Yassin? I heard that other joint that I... Professor Pim now has

fire, bro. Yo, bro. What, we got like six joints? Six sets? Like, yeah. It's fire, my man. Yo, we good, man. You got... Yo, get that... Yeah, nah, we in already. This ain't nothing that we got to do or nothing that's the work is in yeah no no y'all have it yeah we yeah we already in we sick it makes me

feel bad because it's like i only got like one or two songs with flush like one song with you like this we got the pizza joint too oh we got the pizza joint cnn that's Hold on, I'll take a shot for that. I'll take a shot for that. The CNN joint, man. Okay. Rakim or KRS? KRS. Oh, we said both of those. KRS. Over Rak?

KRS. KRS1. I thought you couldn't even say his name earlier, but I guess so. KRS1. KRS1. I would think you would pick Rakim Because the rumor is You completed Rakim's album

I love Rakim Rakim is my big brother He taught me a He taught me a real lesson in life You know what I'm saying He taught me to be more serious in life You know what I'm saying Yeah that's the most serious person

Yeah yeah yeah Only seen Rakim smile two times Yeah nah nah nah Nah I seen Yo we You know And that's the thing I got thrown off

Because we used to actually joke. Like, we used to, you know, because he respected my musicality as much as I respected his. You know what I'm saying? So we used to, like, build, and then we got past, like, all the, you know, respect dude shit,

and it was like, yo, we used to bug out a little bit. But nah, KRS-One, because KRS-One, he come from a whole different grain, man. That nigga's from the BX, from the original grain of that shit, man And he got too many motherfucking bangers right now, man

Like, I'm telling you You want to talk about stepping to a world You want to talk about a friend You want to talk about what's in here I be putting them shits up on Instagram, man The MC, Big Up Domingo You crazy? Yeah, shout out Domingo, man

Come on, man Okay, Primo or Pete Rock? And you know what? The first thing that came to my mind was that motherfucking firing squad beat, man. That M.O.P. It was... Oh, man. For me, that nigga is...

I love my brother, man. And our birthdays are the same day. I could tell. And we had both of them on Drink Champs together. I could tell. It ain't hard to tell. It ain't hard to tell. Trash needed to be in there.

Think of trash, man. I love trash, man. Who you picking though, sir? We drinking. Nah, we drinking. We drinking? Okay. Yeah, we drinking, man.

Yeah, that's difficult. Yeah. Okay, Havoc or DJ Muggs? Ooh. All right. My man Hav, man. I love Hav, man. That's my brother.

Trash brought him through my crib, right? When my name was starting to really ring bells hard, Trash, I was very young, and i was working with g-rap i had already molly like my production for mr intelligent hudlum was already in so i was already had my feet under me like all right cool you got a credit you got a record vinyl record with your name on it type shit so i was already everything back so now Traj comes through and he got the youngin, Traj and Fatal. Like yo, the youngin, he was just Key Juan.

Like yo. Key Juan, which is Havoc's real name, guys. Yeah, he was like, yo, he looked over my shoulder, he was like, yo, I'ma do that shit one day and I'ma get ill. And he had to run back home because he has happy who's saying that to you yes that's fire because he he had grandmoms he was like yo we gotta get him back and shit because he had like he was like he wasn't even

supposed to be gone from the bridge he's straight up a little jay right so it's like yo got him back and shit you know what i mean likeav, I've been on the Hill days. They've been like, yo, nigga, get upstairs, man. Finish that album, man. Like, you know what I mean? That type of shit. Like, Hav, I seen Hav and his infancy of, like, production. Hav is a super, like, general king on production, bro.

Like, you could never, nah, please, let me, like, em king on production, bro. Like, you could never, nah, please, let me, like, embellish, like, because that brother, man, like, because you never, you, like, what's the joint we always rock with, Nez? The separated joint, that beat from the separated joint,

that came in in the late, no, see, that's what, me and Nez, we be having, like, the round tables, we be still listening To catalogs Like we go out To Hollis real quick Boom we be listening

Yo that's Separated Put that on your playlist too That shit crazy Like and it's a later production Like so That's when you know Brother still got it Like when we did that

And you was still able To pop off In the latter Like cause it was like We thought the popping offs Was not popping off no more It was like Nah niggas are still able to get those fireworks pardon me them fireworks going and shit nigga spitting and shit like yeah nah we good man okay and but to be fair mugs and and i feel like havoc i feel like there is no it's havoc though i know i know but i'm saying i feel like

that that sound you're's the West Coast. Alchemists. Alchemists, they all collaborated. Yo, it's Havoc, though. Yeah, no, no, yeah, we know that. We know that. A B Street or Cross Groove? And I love mugs.

Mugs, grandmoms live right up the block in Flushing, man. Wow. You got a lot of grandmas in your stories, man. Yeah. We was just saying that. I talked to my girl, Kate Kate And I was just saying that I don't know anyone On this planet

Who didn't know Their grandmother Right I don't know anyone Everyone I know Says like Their grandmother I don't know anyone

Who say yo I didn't know my grandmother Right That's a little crazy and shit But yeah nah Yeah for sure But Beat Street Or Crush Groove

Crush Groove Crush Crush Who you Who you But Beat Street Or Crush Groove Crush Groove Crush Crush Who you Who you Oh Crush Groove Yeah Crush Groove Nah cause that's Hollis That's Hollis

That's you know That's where I live You know I live in Hollis man So What up Oh yeah Oh yeah yeah Nah we

Yo bro man We Yo we binge watched We binge watched Cause I think like My cable was off Or some shit like that It was doing them

Rough times bro You remember them Rough times We was still making it dope bro We motherfucking Yo I had the beat machine And shit still going Yo

I had it on mute And we was just Sorry Tylev You know what this is You know what this is Tylev We was just binge watching We was binge watching Tougher Than Leather

And Crush Groove We was binge watching We watched that shit everyday We was watching You said Tougher Than Leather T top of the lever and yo we just be sitting there laughing just wilding like off running them like because them was had mad money but now they making this wild movie and like like got mad money and did you watch disorderly's with fat with the fat boys to me that was a classic you you wild you from miami you saw this was a classic See you You wild You from Miami The Sour Leaves was a classic You really Nobody liked the Sour Leaves

That shit was a classic We didn't watch that Oh I love the Sour Leaves bro That's when the fat boys Big up Kool Rock Rest in peace Prince Markie D Who was out here in Miami too

Absolutely man But we didn't watch that I mean I'm not talking About some hip hop shit That was just a good Funny movie I don't know I don't know Cause that's when You know the fat man but we didn't watch that. I mean I'm not talking about some hip hop shit. That was just a good funny movie. I don't know. You know the fat boys

was starting to drift away. They started doing twisted shoutings like that. They were starting like yo. I love my brothers though. If you look up the word hip hop his picture has to come up.

He answers it in the hip hop world. Die hard hip hop. I love my brothers. If you look up the word hip-hop, his picture has to come up. Absolutely. He answers it in the hip-hop world. Die hard. Die hard hip-hop. I love that. I love that, by the way. Based on skill. Based on skill.

That's the first record I made. The first song I made is with my man, Shallow. Shy Skills. Shallow. But you said we going to come back to Shallow with Onyx. Got to, man. I got to big up my man, Shallow. But that was my man.

He was my DJ at first. And my first record, the first song that I made with him was based on skill. It was named Based on Skill. And this is the last one for Quick Time with Slim. Then I'm going to show you how much of a fan I am. Me and Drainz going to battle.

Are we going to battle? All right. That wasn't a quick time, though. It wasn't quick at all. It wasn't quick at all. Loyalty or respect? All right. Let me carefully answer that.

I like that. Loyalty or respect, right? Mm-hmm. We got to drink, right? If you want both. If you want both. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. Both is what we usually say.

That's what we usually do. Yeah, that's what we do. To us, that's the easier, that's the easy right answer. Yeah, love, love is the whole, you know what I mean? The package. Encompass, so, yeah.

Where's Drain at? Drain, here, here, let's do this. You got it set up? Hold on, let me just tell you something. Because, I mean, I think one got to do the other for the other to happen, for the other to work. If you pick one, you take away from it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to kind of do one for the other To happen For the other If you pick one

You take away from Yeah yeah yeah You got to kind of do One for the other Like yeah Okay well let me just Tell you something When this record came out

I'm not talking to you brother This is great Hold on hold on I got to give you I got to give you a flower Biz would be very proud Of you with that piece man Okay

He came up to me one time He was like What piece The Voxeron Nah the The Glocka The Glocka Right there

The Glocka The Drink Chance Oh Drink Chance Okay So Biz came up to me one time He's like yo Paul man Paul Nah, the clack-a. The clack-a right there. The clack-a. The drink chance. Oh, drink chance. Okay. So, Biz came up to me one time. He's like, yo, Paul, man. Paul. I'm never going to call you Paul.

You're always going to be law professor to me. You have the right to. No, I'm not calling you law professor for the rest of my goddamn life. You will always be expected. I ain't calling him

Eminem Marshall. I'm not calling LL Todd. I'm not calling LL Todd. I'm not calling LL Todd. I call him your fucking real name, which is your fucking rap name. It's your real name. It's so funny because lately I've been, you know, I've been getting that little writing thing,

the feeling again and shit. And I've been saying, I've been wanting to do a so-called government name game. Government name game. I'm in. I'm in. It's so crazy. And you know, it's more on the

female side. You know, the female that may have been out there a little social. Didn't Nas do a record like that? Where he named everybody's real government name? Who did a record like that? No? Did I make that up just now? Yeah, it's called government name game. Now, is he going to be

mean? It's the government name game. I want to show you. Do you know Paulie from Flushing? You got your waxes there. At this point, we and him was battling all day. Yeah, they did that on the low. We wasn't even here.

We was like, yo, who got this? Now, listen, I'm going to tell you, man. By the way, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me just say something. That is the hardest breakup record. A lot of people don't realize it's a breakup record. That's why y'all know it. He's saying.

Y'all hurt. Y'all hurt. He's saying. You say. They hurt. They hurt. They hurt. He was looking at me.

That's why they know it so well. They've been seeing it way too many times. Wait, wait. You know that? Yo, yo. They were in the mirror way too many times. He was looking at me. I'm thinking, what am I going to say? You know that? Hold on Because I believe I was here

Give a child a helping hand Hold on I didn't realize you stayed I thought you looked at the front door And walked through it Listen bro man It's so crazy Because at that time

This is This is left rack history Right here, because the girl I was down with at that time, we was chilling. Sakima, like, we, you know, she, Indian Noah, everybody. I like the way you said the girl I was down with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yo, we was, we was. She wasn't good for you? No, we was great.

We was great. And I found out years later, like one of these mystical people that I met, they told me, they was like, you wasn't talking about a relationship. You was talking about a world problem. You was talking about many people's lives. You wasn't talking about your own life. You was talking about an umbrella problem

that plagues this world. And that's why these people, because I had to get therapy a little bit, not therapy, but like hood therapy. umbrella problem that plagues this world for, and that's why these people, because I had to get, I had to get like therapy a little bit, not therapy, but like hood therapy, like,

you know what I'm saying? It was like, you had to get through it. Right, you had to get through it. why? Because, you know,

I can honestly admit that my life was kind of sort of sweet a little bit now that I look back, you know what I mean? I had mommy and daddy, big sis,

you know what I mean? God bless. A lot was good in my life, you know what I'm saying? A lot of us come from the hood who has a mother and father. We felt rich. Absolutely. I had my mother and father. I know.

Pops had them things. I'm going to be honest. I did. Not rich financially, but I always felt rich. Or spiritually. I would eat dinner. I realized, like, you know, it wasn't until, like, I actually started to go to, like, 40 projects and Queensbridge and Brownsville, my cousins in Albuquerque Mall and Fort Greene. It wasn't until, Farragut, excuse me.

It wasn't until I started to see that a broken family is what makes you poor, not financial. You know what I'm saying? And I didn't really kind of like realize that until I got older and I realized Speak that shit, man. Say that, man.

You said something that was very powerful earlier. You said grandmothers. You right. A lot of people didn't have their direct parents, but they had their grandparents. Oh, everybody.

I know. There's nobody. Most of my friends was raised by their grandparents. Which is the matriarch of most families. Yo, I don't know anyone who, there's no I don't Most of my friends Was raised by their grandparents They wasn't Which is the matriarch Of most families Yo I don't know anyone Who

There's no one who said Yo Growing up I didn't have my grandmother Right But I was trying to think of that Coming here as a matter of fact

Sitting there and shit I was like You know people say Yo now my grandpa She's alive My pops But never their grandmother That's crazy

Yeah I knew my grandmother. You know what I mean? I know mad people. I was trying to think of somebody that I didn't, you know, so that type of thing. That's a good thing to think about, man. So let me ask you, because this is like a super, super, super rumor.

I'm not sure if it's a rumor or if it's true or whatever, but it's rumored that. Look at all these rumors. It's rumored that. I all these rumors But it's rumored that I believe the Rhythm Hitter album My man back there Looked like Paul real quick, right? He looked like Paul Lepe right there

He looked crazy Look, look, look, Kate Look, look Oh shit, that's what But it's rumored that Eric B. and Rakim Was recording an album Yeah

Their producer Yeah, yeah Their producer got killed Or Paul C., my mentor That was, yeah Alright, so He was white, correct?

Yeah, that's my mentor, man My man Paul C. And that's beautiful That you brought that story up Because it's good That the hood will now Know about that Because your show Projects that the hood will now know about that because your show projects to the hood.

Like, I swear to you, my daughter was like, you doing drink change? Like, it was crazy. Let's pick up your daughter. My daughter was like, chilling in, mad. Yeah, for real. So, yeah, yeah. So, what happened was...

Because you was in high school at the time, right? I was in bound. You was in bound? I was in bound with India. So, what had happened was like, yo, I think as the story was told to me, uh, Paul's wife was this beautiful, elegant, uh, so beautiful, stunning, stunningly beautiful black woman from Loreton Queens. Okay know i won you know but um and i i knew her i knew her you know like it was a beautiful marriage a beautiful union to me you know it was it was the

you know the black and white thing you know and um yeah man paul got killed man i i guess the story was told to me, man, that Rakim was rolling or whatever, like one of his boys tried to shout at Paul's wife. And Paul's wife was like, actually, you need to, you know, speak to my husband about some beats because he's fire. You know, and then Rakim was like, all right, well, you know, let me see what's good with that. And then he went and seen Paul and then actually seen That Paul was fire And was like Yo word We gonna work And so they clicked the clack You know

Did what they had to do and shit And then Paul was on board With working with Eric B. and Rakim And then met in an untimely demise With um You know what I mean Like Someone coming in his uh

Basement And um And shooting him man That's crazy God bless That's crazy yeah But then that's how you, you know, so.

Yeah, so I was in the studio with Paul. Paul had lent me the SP-1200. This is your lineage right here. Paul lent me the SP-1200 that I made intelligent hoodlum on. Mm-hmm. You know, and all of the trash joints

that I made, you know what I mean? So, yeah, it's, it's uh It's 30 plus years now Let me ask because a lot of people considered that ghost producer Yeah at the time. I didn't you know that shit didn't exist like ghost producing It was just like you know cuz I was coming from the purest form of hip-hop right now, shit. I'm like, yo, you don't bite that man's shit. You don't, you give that man credit.

You know, that man's fresh. Yo, that nigga bring, get that nigga a hog and bring him next to you. You know what I mean? Like, yo, that's my little nigga right here and shit. I brought him up. You know, and you know everybody going to do what they got to do and shit. They going to act right. You know, that's what you did with Traz, right?

Traz bought you, dude. Like, you're a smart little man right here and shit. He nice going to act right. You know, that's what you did with Traz, right? Traz bought you, dude. You're a smart little man right here. He's nice. Boom, you came, you did your, you know what I mean? So that's the whole shit. But when you did it, you did it on a strength of Paul or you did it on a strength of knowing who Eric B. and Rock Kim was?

I did it on a strength of fatal getting up with Eric being on and being like, yo, I got Paul protege, protege, the brother that was working under Paul. Y'all probably need to. And then both named Paul. Yo, crazy, right? And then boom, this is the story, though. We went out to wine dance.

Fader was like, yo, we started. We started to my friend, my friend Raheem from Wine Dance. Go ahead. Dogs, we started this trip at like 10, 30, 11 at night. Wow. Going to Wine Dance. Because I guess they was doing a show or something. He had to bring something to rock him. So, boom, we jetted out there in the Wagoneer.

I mentioned the Wagoneer and hanging out. We jetted out there in the Wagoneer and shit. Boom. We went to this first house. It was like 77, something like that out there in the Wagoneer and shit Boom We went to this first house It was like 77 Something like that Out there and shit They got a Jamaica Ave out there

In Wanda and shit too Wow So all that shit So we went out there to the 77 joint And I was like Oh shit 77 Like oh shit That's Rakim's house

It's God God Like oh shit He wasn't there Then we went to another house And then they They called him from a basement And shit and he came up He had the blue BVD on

That's when he was rocking the dreads What? Rock him Yeah rock him And you said BVD That's the silk shirt That's the silk shirt Yeah yeah yeah

The silk I ain't gonna lie It's the half the BVD He got the phony frame He got the mad phony frame So he come out But he got the dreads Popping down with shit

So this is rock him At his ultimate peak right now when he did the dreads. So he's like, yo. And I'm like, oh, shit, this is the God right now. He got this, you know, he got something stupid, stupid around his neck. I was like, it's the God right now, like, in my face. And he was like, yo, where would you the next pull? All right, man, yo, come through the lab and shit. He told me you won't be coming through the lab because Eric I think you know I kind of linked with Eric first and then they was like Eric was like yo well go take him out

there to rock him see if rock him more and fuck you know or not and then and then I was like g check so you needed to improve I kind of get it yeah he said you were the next Paul is what he told you uh well he that's what he just said Yeah cause Paul Cause remember That was his predecessor As he was saying Then now we got another Paul My man Gert Paul

Out there Gert Paul out there Three Pauls Yeah yeah yeah We got a bunch And then Paul Lepe You know we got A bunch of Pauls man

And we gotta shout out Fatal Cause you keep mentioning him Like Fatal He seems to be tied Into all this stuff Fatal is actually The hub that Kinda like

Cause he was the one that was going out there, and Fatal got that, he got that mind boggler shit. He could walk up on you and talk to you, and you would think that you knew Fatal for 100 years. You know, he'd just run up on you and talk to you, and he'd just be like, ah, ah, ah, like that type of shit. So, you know, they got Fatal. And M1, yeah.

Oh, young bro. Bring Taleb. M1's here. Yeah, you know, they got fatal. Word up. And M1, yeah. Young brother. Bring Tyler M. M1's here? Yeah, and Nas. Oh, oh. Yo, M, come on, baby. Yeah, come on. Talk to me, man.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk to me, yo. Come on. Yeah, let's get the whole shit going. Yeah, let's get the whole shit going. Let's get the whole shit going. Word up. I see you, Kate.

I see you. Ha, ha, ha. Word up. My man back there, he chilling I see you. Ha ha ha. Word up. My man back there, he chilling back there. He got his drink. He got the Miami shirt on and shit. My man back there, he got the shades on and shit.

Word up. He got the way. I got vinyl with me, too. I got my vinyl with me. Yo, yo. Yo, I love it. Yeah, yeah. That was Nesbitt.

We're going to have you right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The word is Nesbitt. We're going to have you right there. I got vinyl with me too. I got my vinyl with me. Yo, yes. Yo, I love it. That was Nes, but we're going to have you right there. Don't worry about it. We'll get you another one. We'll take the camera, man.

Yeah, for you. You do this one. Yeah, Nes. Because they actually comrades from a while back. That's comrades right there. Lord Nez is a real one. Lord Nez, did you work at Penalty? Yes, he worked at Penalty.

Oh, shit. Yes, yes, yes. Man, mic that man up. Mic that man up. Mic that man up. Yes, okay. Word up, man. You didn't hear what we just said just now? Yeah, yeah. Okay, Haz? Haz, you can hear me? Yes, okay. Word up,

man. You didn't hear what we just said just now? Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay,

all right, cool. Haz, Haz on the audio. Let me ask you, because I'm about I got my young bros next to me

good now. Yo, this is beautiful, man. Word up. One of the best New York City songs of life.

Damn, we had to get Tyler some of that smoking beat shit, man. Come on, you got to move it closer, man. You got to move it closer. Yeah, the smoking beat, man. No, no, no, we got you whatever you need. Yeah, hell yeah. Come on, man. But one of my, you know, New York City, we have anthems from Frank Sinatra to Jay-Z,

but there's one special New York record. What? No, the Streets of New York. A New York record, right? G-Rap. G-Rap. I did not know you produced that. Oh, yeah, me and Anton Pogshansky.

Ooh. Yeah. I need to know how this record was put together. Oh, yeah. Nah, I can't remember. All right, so I was doing night school at Jamaica High School. And so after that, I would go in like G would come pick me up.

That's when he had the white maximum. He'd come down the block and said, I'll ride the bus back home after night school. So I was doing night sessions when it would be like 9, 10 o'clock at night and G would come pick me up. My moms and pops was good. They knew I was going out there to get some money. So they was like,

all right, go do what you got to do. So, boom, we knocking shit out. And, you know, some of them sessions ran into like 3, 4, 5, 6 in the morning. And I have to dip the bound. No sleep type shit. You know what I mean? Like just boom, touchdown. And just have to boom, freshen up.

And just dip the bound real quick. You know, type shit. But Streets of Nework was one of them nights where i just i had came in like because what i used to do is try to get a flute what is what is that on there the bam bam bam now he was playing the keyboard all of them is keyboards okay but he was he was solo that's what niggas was still doing solos and songs and a hip-hop song right now in hip-hop. So it was one of them, because even like Talk Like Sex, that was the same thing.

It was like, I would, after school, after night school, actually, I won't specify. So I would come home and try to get a loop or two in real quick before G would come pick me up. So I'd get home like nine, and so he'd come pick me up like ten. I'd try to dice up like two or three or four loops real quick before he came. So that's how that happened. I diced that loop up. Then I came to the lab. We hit the lab, and I was like, yo, boom, disjoint.

And then Anton, like, when he heard it, he was like, yo, I can do this, and I can do that. And he just took flight on that shit. And big up Anton, because he's really the one That we talking about With the solo horn And all that shit Like cause he He felt that in his soul Cause I just had

A certain little I had like a skeleton For him And then he took that shit To the next level Bass lines Playing horns Keyboards

All that Let's name great New York records Streets of New York Streets of New York New York State of Mind New York State of Mind Empire State of Mind High Techs New York New York With Streets of New York Streets of New York New York State of Mind New York State of Mind Empire State of Mind

High Tech's New York New York with Jadakiss And All In The Morning I forgot that one Yeah I forgot that one And

And New York New York Ja Rule Ja Rule Frank Sinatra Yeah that was I forgot New York shit Okay Busta Rhymes Yeah that was I forgot

New York shit Okay Busta Rhymes The Swiss Beats Yeah I forgot that Sadat X Escape from New York Ooh

With D-Daw Ooh A Pete Rock production Ooh Nah I'm just I'm just trying to build you A nice play

Let's go When you look back Yeah when you look back You're going Yeah Welcome to New York Yeah I'm just trying to build you a nice playlist, dog. When you look back, you're going, let's see. Yeah, welcome to New York City. No, no, I'm not getting there. But what about J, what about J, N-Y-M-P? Yeah, exactly.

N-Y-M-P, the realest, nigga. That's N-Y. Yo, Lars, bro, is the most hip-hop person ever. I mean, I slash him up. That's my brother, thathop person ever. I'm being serious. I slashed him up. I love him, bro. I smoke brother. That's young bro. I love him.

No, no. Oh, oh, free roll for the soul. Bro, yo, yo, yo, N.O., we got this smoking beast thing happening out here, man. You ain't never tried Japanese whiskey? When Jay said it, I knew what he was talking about. No. You want some habiki?

Get that just a habiki. Give him a shotiki? Get that son of a b-key. Give him a shot of Habiki. I'm proud of my brother. My brother, I love you. Come on, come on, come on. No, I don't. I'll be somewhere over there like Shan, man. What's up, dog? Good? Oh, shit, my nigga

Supreme in the building. Yo, Supreme in the building. Yes, hell yeah. Thank you. Give him maybe, you want a glass of it? I do. I would like a nice, neat glass. Yeah, yeah.

I'm in, too. You know what? I want a glass of it, too. You ain't giving him one? We got to give him a large pro one. We got to give him a large pro one. I think right there. Isn't it right there?

Right there. It's right there. Yeah. That's just going to be a little prop right here. We giving you your flowers today. Man. We are all here. Let's just be independent.

Yo, I ain't drinking that shit. Good for you, man. Don't drink that shit. Yo. No doubt. Listen, Lars, bro, we are here to give you your flowers, my brother. Let me just tell you something, man. Appreciate you, brother.

You are legends, legends. I've been to Japan many times. You're a producer's producer. You are artist, artist. But we got to go back. Yes. What came first, DJing or producing? DJing. You knew that.

You just wanted that. I know. I mean, we need the audience here. It ain't hard to tell. It ain't hard to tell. It ain't hard to tell. It ain't hard to tell. I can tell. So what DJs are you looking up to that you say, I want to be a DJ?

All right. So around my way, we have my brother that I patterned myself after. Even today, you see what I do on Instagram. This nigga don't follow me. We're going to go somewhere else. Exactly. You're bad. You're bad. He's about to follow you right now. We're going to go to Hollywood. But I do on Instagram This nigga don't follow me We gonna go somewhere else Exactly You're bad You're bad

He about to follow you right now We gonna break through All that Hollywood shit We gonna break through All that Hollywood shit today We gonna publish Some of that shit today So listen

Nah nah But nah There's a brother around my way Named Carmel And so When I got out to group home They told me in the group home They was like

Yo listen man You need to do music, man. Fuck that crime shit, man, do music, man. You gonna be all right. And so I started buying records. I ain't have equipment yet, but I just started buying records that I like and shit. You know what I mean? In my household, we always had records.

So buying records was nothing. It was like, all right, cool. Go to the Ave with the bus pass, go see Mr. Walt, Music Factory, buy some records. Walt, you know what I mean? like, alright, cool. Go to the Ave with the bus pass. Go see Mr. Wall. Music Factory. Buy some records. You know what I mean? Yeah, Beat Miners. All day. Boom. So, you know, just buying records, man. Buying records.

I gotta say, man, hearing you, like what Main Source brought to me really defined the way I knew I could be in hip-hop. Because we was rebelling. We was rebelling.

We was definitely against the tide. We was calling shit out. We was calling shit out. Yeah. And y'all came in and added on to that. Look, Friendly Game of Baseball ran in me. Like, that ran. I used to run that, that Friendly Game of Baseball joint.

Yeah, I missed that part of me because I just got to say, and main source. Absolutely. Just the way you... I'll be honest, Lava the Barbecue might be one of the best

posse records of all time. I mean... Absolutely. Yeah. Of all time. Now, we was following Marley and them template and you know everybody...

What do you mean? What do you mean? Like, Marley and them came out with the first symphony. Because to me, when I heard about Lava the Barbecue... Because when we did Barbecue Joint, Marley and them came out with the first symphony. Because to me, when I heard about the barbecue. Because when we did barbecue joint, we were saying we're going to do a symphony joint.

They were. Oh. When we were doing live at the barbecue, we were saying we're going to do a symphony joint. Okay, I can see that now. But sounding nothing like a symphony. It was the symphony of that generation. That's crazy. And them times of doing albums, you had joints.

You had, yo, where's your DJ joint? Where the DJ had his song, and then you had your love song joint. Like, I just threw up the Kane joint. Kane, on his first album, he had the love song, The Day You're Mine. That shit is fire. So a lot of dudes. And then there was a time where dudes had, like, where's your house? Your hip house joint.

Right, exactly. Niggas was? Your hip house joint. Right. Exactly. Niggas was doing a hip house joint. House music. Yeah. Girl, I house you. Girl, I house you. Don't make me wait.

Yeah. Girl, I house you. That was the hip house joint. It was like, oh, you got your girl joint? Because they had, so Jungle Brothers, they had In The Bush, which was their girl joint. Then they had Girl, I house you stay there was the house joint and then they had the DJ joint was like you know Let's show these artifacts. Absolutely. We're going to do that. He's going to be mean. We got a future young legend in here, man.

I ain't going to. This is my dude right here. Because the large professor knows that wherever I'm always in a place to be. You know what I'm saying? I try to make it happen. No, wherever we at, we in a place. Yeah, wherever we at is the place to be. That's right. Because like,

you came out here in like Miami, like these stocks, you know what I mean? Yeah, he just stole our, he just dissed the shit out of Miami. Nah, he didn't.

Nah, I ain't diss shit. I ain't diss nothing, but no, he bought something. But let me ask you, because like halftime, literally. Nah, these boys. Halftime? Halftime, like literally. Halftime. Like, yo, bro, that's a one-on-one. I was in jail, right? Like half time Literally Half time

Half time Like literally Half time Like Yo bro I was in jail I was in jail I was in DFY

Like you said earlier Let's talk about Half time Listen that's what I heard Listen by the way I'm going to be honest with you That's poppy That's poppy right now

That's poppy That's true We're going back to poppy Let's go It's very true Illmatic By the way Illmatic I heard when I was incarcerated, right? And this is the reason why, to me, Nas is the Donald Goins.

Because I would go in, lock in, and I would listen to Illmatic. And I would literally be in Queensbridge. Wow. I was never kind of like in jail. All right, so prior to to that Did you ever go to QB and hang out Absolutely But

I actually smelled QB Like as I was Listening to it QB has that effect You can see QB You can smell Articulate Nas was

At the time was When I used to read Donald Gowen's books And I read a book Called Whores I like how you Pronounce his name Cause you say like

Gowens Like he was going in. But it's like they pronounce it Go-Wins. Damn, Go-Wins. Like Coins. But you like Go-Wins. You like Go-Wins. No, you always, no.

I kill that guy. I kill that guy. I kill that guy. He said, even when you run, you run. You run to Q-Burrow. But I would listen, I would read these books and I would be in Detroit. And what I started to notice was,

oh shit, music is the same thing. Like the same thing as reading. Like when you read, you'll be in that place. Like if you read a book about, you know, Malcolm X, I was Detroit Red. It transports you, right.

It was Detroit Red. And then Illmatic was the first album that I listened to that I saw. You're right. Like I actually saw it. I couldn't see it physically. He says, trying to tell some broken amps.

All that shit. When he said, that buck that bought that bottle could have struck the lotto. I was like, what the fuck is wrong with him? The wise man has spoken. The wise young man has spoken.

Elevator. See, of course, Nancy. That's that smell, though. Elevator. Oh, see, of course, Nancy. Of course, you know. No, that's that smell, though. That's that smell. You can smell it. Because as soon as he said that lyric, that smell wafted into my nostrils. Feel me?

Because look, so what I'm trying to describe is, Halftime was the first record we heard, right? And then it was like a whole, like, like in my opinion again i was i was away it was like a like like a whole like he he didn't he didn't drop more more album he didn't drop like that in that vein in that vein right and then the album dropped right was that something that that y'all planned or that was something that it just... Yo, the streets was bubbling. Shit, it was technical difficulties.

We was working on a low budget. Like, it was all types of like that, that, that, that, that first album shit that you could, you know, that you could get, man.

And... Let me cut you off for one moment. Let me just say this because to me, I maybe didn't say this earlier, Illmatic is the greatest album of all times to me. I resonate with that.

That's to me. I don't want to argue with nobody. You're talking about any music. You're not just talking about hip-hop. I'm not talking about hip-hop. You're talking about music

in general. In general. Subjectively for you, it would have to be. Subjectively. You know what I mean? Coming from where he is, it would have to be.

It was for me and I'm not from Queens. That's what makes it even more special. Like me from Miami, listen to it, it transported me to Queens and made me believe

I understood Queens. All right, so Michael Jackson, Thriller is not anywhere? Not for me. No. No, I'm trying to think of something that you might. No, that's fair.

I'm trying to think of something that you might. I like Thriller, but I don't like Thriller. Right, right, right. It was cool. Did you like that album? I couldn't relate to that. Because it had human nature on it.

It had. It wasn't relating to me. It wasn't relating to that poppy. Could it be generationally? Age? I didn't want. Right, right, right. But he's a little younger in that sense.

He's a little younger in that sense what are you talking about right there he's a little younger in that sense but when you talk about that's that that's that mad scientist that's what it is that's the mad scientist

he's listening he's listening to different things he's listening to what they doing in the production right that's not what

you're talking about like what is gonna be the one that came before Illmatic that's what I'm trying to think of if you take Granddaddy at you Bismarck and Coogee Rap and Illmatic? You know, that's what I'm trying to think of. If you take Granddaddy RU, Bismarck, and Coogee Rap, and you make them have a baby, that's N-R-E.

Granddaddy RU, Bismarck-y, and Coogee Rap. And if you really think about it, that's... So he's asking, what before Nas was that album? Oh, it was Granddaddy RU. Granddaddy RU. There you go, there you go. Holy shit. He just pulled out the smooth.

Two copies, brother. Oh. That's two copies, brother. Granddad, you rest in peace. We love you, brother. We love you, brother. Yo. Holy shit.

I really want to give him his flower. His flowers. This is my... Listen. When Granddad, you said, I knew a girl named Kenya from West Virginia.

Boy, would I like to stick something in her. I said, I don't know what the fuck he just did, would I like to stick something in her. I said, I don't know what the fuck he just did, but I want to do that. I like that. Whatever the fuck

that shit just said, that single-handedly made me a rapper. And then, look, Lars Professor, let me give you your props. And watching y'all perform at Brooklyn Queens Day

in Flushing Meadow Park. We got two copies of that, dude. I think I've seen that footage. That shit's stupid. That was stupid. I've seen that footage. This is stupid. That was stupid. I've seen Varsity Professor perform at Brooklyn Queens Day with Nas and live at the barbecue.

And I went there because of Akineli. I'm from 97th Street. Akineli's from 99th. 99th. So Akineli came. I used to hang out the window all the time. Come and hang. And I didn't know what I was doing at the time.

I was a kid. My mother didn't even let me out. And I went to Brooklyn Queens Day, which was very dangerous. By the way, this was not safe. No, it was fun. It was fun. No, it was dangerous for left-right niggas

because left-right niggas was always causing... No, it was dangerous because Brooklyn niggas was coming to Queens. Left-right niggas is crazy. Listen, listen. No, no, no. Listen, listen. It was called Brooklyn Queens Day and Brooklyn niggas... I can see it now. Listen, listen. I was looking back. No, no, no. Listen, listen. It was called Brooklyn niggas day

and Brooklyn niggas is not like Listen, listen. Brooklyn did not like that Brooklyn niggas day was in Queens. Shut up, complexion. Was in Queens.

So Brooklyn niggas would come and Donald Trump's a left rack nigga. Donald Trump's a left rack nigga. That's why you love him so much.

I'm telling you. That's why you love him so much. Yo, he be picking up Donald Trump all the time. All the time. Right? He grew up right down the block. He like Donald Trump's on that. Yo, he be picking up Donald Trump all the time. All the time. Right? He grew up right down the block. He like Donald.

He like Donald. Donald Trump is from right up the block. He's like Donald is the Bible. You know why it's not true? I'm going to be honest. You used to live in apartments. I'm going to be honest. Why it's not true?

Left rack and Donald Trump have beef. The guy who owns left rack. He was up the block. That's what I'm saying. They was rivals. Donald Trump people was up the block from left rack i'm saying they was rivals people was up the block from left right and they have walls actually actually it's it's it's pronounced lefrak know him right now that's great great. Yeah, he's bigger than Jamie Lefrak.

Okay. Bigger than him. Yeah, I know him. I know him. See, that's real true. And he won't... I'm trying to get him to give me... I want to buy...

I want to be the first owner of a Lefrak City apartment. You should have him drink cheese. Yes, yes, yes. That's a good idea. That would be interesting as a motherfucker. That is a good idea. Because I'm sitting at... It might be awkward for that dude, though.

We're at Collard House. It's the first time I ever see E-Class drunk. So E-Class, by the way, you know E-Class is a military, militant nigga. So E-Class is like this. All right. I said, what's up, E-Class? He said, he on your shit. I said, what?

Oh, wow. I said, what? And then the guy comes over. He's sitting there waiting to speak to me. He's like, yo, I'm left. Oh, that's wild. That's actually his name, though? Yes, that's his name. I got him saved. That's his name. speak to me he's like yo I'm what's crazy about it is like sees like no one owns 40 projects the city owns 40 projects no one owns Queens Bridge nobody

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but there's one in New Jersey. There's one in Fletcher. Oh, what? Yeah. Oh, you just fucked me up right now. Yeah, left rack is Trump. So it's like a franchise? Listen, listen, listen. It went over your head what he just said.

He was saying- Y'all like Chipotle? Yeah. I like that joke. And he was just talking about- They made you win some money right there. The elevator. Yeah, the elevator.

They got the same elevators. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The same elevators. But I mean, no, but to be serious, L Left Frack City is actually a city though, no? No. Yes, it's a complex. It's a complex. Oh, so it's not like an unincorporated city?

Some of the wildest. Yeah, but in Jersey City, they have a Left Frack City as well. Yes. So by building, they call those buildings Left Frack City. All right, man, I'm going to flush you, nigga. Enough about Left Frack, man. Enough about Left Frack, man. Enough about it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it and enough about Left Frack, man. Enough about Left Frack, man.

Enough about it. You got enough. Enough about it. Enough about it. Let me just say something. Yo, was you ever caught up in any of that bound, like, flushing Left Frack beef bullshit?

Actually, I was too young to be there. Good, man. I'm glad, man. I'm glad, man. But let me ask you something because flushing... I know you probably had

some of that Jamaica Left Frack beef. Yeah, I got some of that. Flushing. Flushing. Flushing. Now, yo, Left Fr left rack always had beef and down the block always had beef man like we was the calm buildings we was the brother we was like the guards we was like like flushing them used to come up like to like wipe their forehead like phew man i just got away from some like we just up there listening to music you know what i mean bullshit the whole day. No, no. We just stayed the whole night out. So, how did it happen that you leave? I was like, no, no, no. We stayed the whole night.

Wise, God bless Wise. But let me ask you because Flushing, Flushing is one of the diverse places I've ever been to. Like, I always say to people,

if you're from Queens, there's no way you could be racist, right? Right. Because, oh, right. There's no way

you could be racist. That's why I say Donald Trump ain't really from Queens because... That's why when I go to Japan, I'm like, yo, home sweet home. When I go to Russia, I'm like, oh, home sweet home because I'm from Flushing. Because Flushing, that's what I'm saying. Flushing, you have a lot of Russians. You have a lot of Asians.

Buster said it in the song. He said, I'm bouncing out the Flushing. Check the Russian. Check the weed with the Gushen with the extra pee. I'm Flushing. Yeah. He said damn, my hair. He said that in the song, yeah. Bouncing out the flushing. Check extra pee, get the weed from the rushing. Describe to us, growing up out there, how was that? Because, like I said, it's-

Oh, going up and flushing? And flushing, yeah. No, I mean because from, I mean, I was born in Harlem, and you know, it was just straight- Stop saying you born in Harlem. We don't want to claim that. No, I was born in Harlem, and, you know, it was just straight. Stop saying you were born in Harlem. We don't want to claim that. No, I do. Now I'm bugging you. The Big L building, you said that earlier.

That's the whole. Big L in front of his grandma's crib. Yeah, bro, that's my whole edge, like, is the Harlem shit. But I ain't never get to experience that. Like, they was like, my moms was like, you're not going to get this. You're going to get a better, like, you know, so it was flushing for me. But, you know, grandma's house, back and forth, going back, you're not going to get this. You're going to get a better, like, you know, so it was Flushing for me. But, you know, Grandma's house, back and forth, going back, you know, Thanksgiving, shit like that.

Suit up, get fly, you know, type shit. But Flushing, man, was... Cold in Parmenok. Cold in Parmenok. The Bland. The Bland. The Bland was really the hood. Like, where I was in Carlisle, like, down the block

was Flush, Shallow, Mike G. You know, Mike G was from the building diagonal from me. We had four buildings. Jungle Brothers, Mike G. No, Mike Geronimo. Yeah, yeah, I call him Mike Jesus, Mike G, all that. That's like my first friend in life. Like yo, so, yo, I grew up with Hank June, John Soul,

my man Raider, Chris Elassus, big, big, crazy big. About Royal Flush. Flush. Flush used to come to the rest. You know what I mean? Because my crib, I always wanted to share whatever I was doing with the crib, with the community and shit. Like, yo, come through. And I saw on one of the champs and shit, you was you know when mike and him was talking about the queen's lounge when i was doing the queen's lounge shit that was like that's what i was doing like because i was coming up in the industry and i wanted the

hood to kind of see like yo this you know like q-tip yo yeah he right here like it's attainable exactly like biz came through like people still come up to me like, yo, I met biz coming to meet you. Like, you know what I mean? Like, so I always wanted that, like, for them to come. Because I was, I knew who, like, yo, now I'm making that shit. So, you know, come see me too, like, type shit. So, it was a beautiful thing growing up in Flushing, man. Like, it's a beautiful thing.

The diversity is my key now. When I travel the world and these people come up to me, I don't feel like no hood nigga. I don't feel like I ain't good as them or nothing. I'm just like, oh shit, you just like motherfucking Vladim and shit. You know what I mean? For real,

I know people. I know Jewish. I know all that. I know the whole spectrum. That's the beautiful thing about flushing. Mike, you just called me right now. Mike Jesus. Mike Jesus. Mike Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ. What is that nigga? That's my first friend in life. My first friend in life. Mike Jesus Christ. Word up. Crazy. Word up.

So let me ask you. Bring it around if you want. Yeah. Yo, Preen, man. You supposed to have been in this round. Come on, ask you, bring it around if you want. Yeah. Yo, Pree, man, you supposed to have been in this round table. Come on, Pree, man. Get him a chair. Let's get him a chair.

We here, man. All right? We here, man. You see Naz, you see Talib, man. You see we here, man. You see we here, man. What's good, Mike?

You see we here, man. Get him a smaller chair. Yo, didn't you just drop a video or something? Or you can sit behind him at the school. You dropped a video. Congrats, man. Hey!

Pull up. No doubt. My nigga, man. I told him how he was the first, you know, first time I went outside. You know, I'm in my moms, man. I love moms, man. Big up moms, man. Yo, Mike Moms was actually like, she was very big, Jet magazines and Ebony magazines.

Oh, wow. As, like, the talent, like, the scout. She was kind of, like, kind of big, like, how Prodigy's grandmother was. Oh, with the, yeah. Like, having the community and, like, knowing what the new talent that was coming up. Yeah, absolutely. Word. I found that out, man. Word. Yo, salute from M1 from Dead Press, man.

I remember Mike Mahomes, man. Vigorously, man. It was crazy when she left us, man. Mike had left. Yeah, I remember, man. For real, man. My brother. Word up. Absolutely. Hold up. Did you get them facts from me, man? You got them facts? Remember I was asking you a couple of things, man. you get them facts from me, man? You got them facts? Remember, I was asking you a couple of things, man. You got them facts from me, man?

Okay, all right. No doubt. All right, we're going to get back to juice. It's just two old friends talking, just hanging out. What did I get into? We're going to call you back, old head. No, right? I just heard him. I just got to hear him say, just hanging out organically in real time.

Oh, shit. Let me say, because we have Mike Geronimo here. And you were talking about Beasley and all that. Yeah, no problem. Big Green. We got to love the Big Green. We got to love the Big Green. I love Big him. That's why I'm talking about cream. It's my young bro, man. I love the big green.

That's right. Hold on, hold on. Let me ask you because we had two people here that said this very same story with two opposite opinions. Wow. We had Mike Geronimo sit here and say he hated being compared to Nas. Well, their birthdays is the same day.

Let me finish. Let me finish. So he says he hated being compared to Nas. And he kind of said that that almost is what made him not want to keep going. And then we had Irv Gotti here. And Irv said that he hated that Mike Geronimo didn't accept being compared to Nas. Irv, Irv, and I love Irv because Irv is official. You know what I'm saying?

Irv need to just tell people, yo, I was tearing them parks up, nigga. That's all Irv need to do. Because that's the most official shit you could say. I want you to answer this question. Because they both told the same story. Mike Geronimo said him being compared to Nas was not a blessing for him. And Irv sat here and said, him being compared to Nas was a blessing for him. Listen to me, man.

I'm going to explain to you, man. He was never compared to Nas. Right. To begin with. No, he was not, man. Nobody was comparing him to Nas. To begin with No he was not man Nobody was comparing him to Nas I think Mike You know what I'm saying

Mike sometimes get really deep Into him So he's like Yo the same birthday type shit Shit like that Nah I'm telling you man They was comparing him to Nas

Listen to me man They compared everyone to Nas Queens Lounge Queens Lounge Motherfucking Mike Geronimo was there Nas was there Traj was there You know what I'm saying I could go on and Mike Geronimo was there Nas was there Traj was there

You know what I'm saying I could go on and on With people that was there You know what I'm saying Nas was Nas Mike Geronimo Was in the cut Coming up and flushing

And he was his own entity Nobody was comparing Nas and Mike Geronimo It's true I'm going to be honest I was a fan at that time And right now If you ring Nas in

Nas is be like Yo P please tell them No but Mike Geronimo said it Mike Geronimo No Mike Geronimo said it I was a fan at that time. And right now, if you bring Nas in, Nas is be like, yo, P, please tell them. No, but Mike Geronimo said it. Mike Geronimo. No,

Mike Geronimo said it. I mean, you could call him and ask him right now. I mean, you could. If you want to clear it up, might as well call him

and ask him. I don't think hip hop had to wait to just, he, if he had to continue, there would have been an ill differentiation.

You know how many jazz artists could have sounded like so many jazz artists? Right, right, right. Because they're in the same genre. I go to different regions

and I ask about my niggas. I'm like, yo, you know Royal Flush? Some places they say yeah. A lot of places, they say no, I don't know yet. You know what I they say no i don't know yet you know what i'm saying i don't know yet you know and i like that they you know they still want to know

you know right and i'm this and i'm and believe me i'm not there like both feet in i'm still getting them to know me right so i'm not like yo i'm like some old eminem man you know what i mean like i'm like everybody they figuring out me too at the same time. So I don't try to put I'm there and they not or whatever. But a lot of places people ain't know.

So that's my basis on what I'm saying. People is not comparing the two. Because Nas had a platform that was, now you being super New York, nigga. Yes, I am.

Exactly. That's what I'm talking about. But I think you guys are confusing who is comparing. Nas went big. You got to understand. No, no, no. You know how we have our debates But I think you guys are confusing who is comparing. Nas went big. Nah, you got to understand. No, no, no. Bro, you know how we have our debates, right?

They were the fans that was comparing. Like, who is comparing? Is it you guys? Is it the fans? Is it the local area? The fans were not comparing Mike Geronimo and Nas. I'm young. I'm young.

And the fans was comparing them. You know what? You know what? I was around when Mike Geronimo was on Blunt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And just the first time I'm hearing that comparison, to be honest. Me too.

But I will say that. Me too. I will say, even though it's the first time I'm hearing that, I can see it on some marketing shit. I can't see it on the styles. Everybody was a blend. Everybody was a blend of everybody. You know what I mean?

Like, yo, you, yo, come on, man. I can see what you're saying, but I mean, I was actually a fan. If anything, they was comparing y'all to Nas.

Nah, they was comparing us to my team. To my team. And I hated it. CNN, they, because y'all was, y'all was part of, listen,

listen, man, stop, y'all was part of the thread that they were saying that Nas started. Of that brown pattern and style. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. I agree with it. Like more of y'all than Mike Geronimo.

I'm going to tell you. I got to be honest with you. I would imagine that everybody got compared to Nas when Nas broke out. Anybody from Queens or New York got compared to Nas. That's right. That's right.

I'm going to tell you. No diehard head is going to say, oh yeah, there's a comparison there. When Nas first came out, Nas was a phenomenon. He's got the whole world. You know who people were comparing him to? He's got the whole world. For the whole world.

You know who people were comparing him to? Which is just random artists. And listen, you got to remember. You got to remember. My memory is a little sharp back then, but not now. Right? But you know what it was? Buckshot Shorty and Nas was also compared together.

No way. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that.

I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that.

I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that.

I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. I don't see that. Come on, some Drunk Olympic shit.

Come on, some Drunk Olympic shit. I mean, as a DJ, I've never heard that shit. That's the Drunk Olympic shit right now. I'm working it up right now.

Nah, nah. I've never heard that shit. I've never heard that. I've never heard that shit, my bro. I remember those years, yes, Buckshot Shorty, they was,

before they compared Nas to Big, they compared Nas to Buckshot Shorty. Buckshot Shorty was that nigga. Most people weren't comparing a solo artist to the group. I ain't going to let y'all. It's Black Moon and it's Nas and the Sloth.

I mean Black Moon. I'm sorry. It sounded like Black Moon. It sounded like you were just talking about who was that nigga at the time. At the time, that's what it was. That's it. Which sounds like it's going there. Everybody was trying to be that nigga.

Everybody. He's just talking about who was that nigga. Who was that nigga? I'm not talking about style wise. Yeah.'s just talking about who was that nigga. I'm not talking about style wise. Lyrically, everybody was trying to be that person in the golden era. You got to remember, I'm away with a whole bunch of Brooklyn niggas. So the Brooklyn niggas is pushing Buckshot Shorty on me.

So when Halftime came out, that's what I was saying earlier. When Halftime came out, it was like the most I was like, oh shit, we finally got one. It's different perspective of what's going on here. In my opinion, I'm saying this is how I looked at it and then Illmatic dropped and when Illmatic dropped, boy, I walked that yard different.

I came outside like this. I see what Norris is saying now. Did y'all hear that? Did y'all hear that? Oh, I'm looking. These don't want to make eye contact with me at all. They're like, this queen's nigga got it. I'm like, there.

Did y'all see that? Look at me. Did y'all see that? Oh, did y'all see that pop face? Did y'all see that pop face? What are y'all doing, Brooklyn? Was you rhyming then? Was you rhyming?

Boy, was I rhyming. And he wasn't starting He started saying that. I was named for Yahoo with the ball to be. That's when you was reading the books, right? I was reading books. I ain't been reading since. Tell everyone your name again. That's Yahoo with the ball to be.

That was his name back then. I'm so glad I didn't go with that. Are you serious? Is this serious? No, that was his first rap name. That's that New York shit. Like you no. That was his first rap name. That was my first rap name. That's the New York shit, like you said. That was the first rap in the New York shit. No, no, no joke. I'm taking a shot. Y-A-L-L-R-O-N.

MC Yahoo. I need a job. Who do you want to be? Crazy. If you want to do Yahoo, who do you want to be? Crazy. He can still do Yahoo. He can still do Yahoo.

What do you mean? What do you mean you can have your alter egos, bro? He can still do that right now. Listen, listen. Listen, listen. Listen, listen. Listen, listen. Listen, listen. Listen, listen. Listen, listen. Listen, listen. Listen, listen. What do you mean you can have your alter egos?

You can still do that right now. Yo, listen. That's 100%. You can have it all animated. Thanks a lot, Lars, bro. Lars, bro, that produced MC Yahoo with the ball to beat the ball. And we drinking, baby. But Lars, bro, let me ask you.

Because. The rosé joint. Listen. The rosé joint. You know. You got to say, let me ask you. Because. The rosé joint. Listen. Rosé. You know. You got to say with soul. You got to take a shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You got to take a real shot. You got to take a real shot. See, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, see, I knew that's what you was going to do. I knew it. And I love you. I love you, young bro.

I love you, young bro. But we're going to keep this going. But let me ask you. And I love you. I love you, young bro. I love you, young bro. But we're going to keep this going. Let me ask you. Let me ask you. I ain't drinking. He trying to do that Baisley shit to me right now. That is some good shit. No, no, no.

I want to drink too. You are a drinker. Oh, no. Is that a tourniquet? Thank you, God. She got to say live beat. Join on. Put it in a big cube.

Yeah. But let me tell you. Let me ask you, Lars, bro. Same. Do you know how important you are to hip hop? Do you realize it? Let me tell you, let me ask you Lars bro. Do you know how important you are to hip hop? Do you realize it? Not to music, fuck hip hop. Let me not say fuck hip hop. Yeah, you said fuck hip hop.

Yo bro man, there's this Vanessa Bell Armstrong song that I love called you bring out the best in me and That's what my people do. No, I mean they bring out the best in me Yeah, so that's my people bringing that out of me. You know I'm saying like for real like I'm I'm just like I Do what I do and they and they help me so I'm you know, I had a lot of help along the way. You know, big up all the people, all the love. And, you know, we're just going to push forward, man. That's how we're going to do it.

You're part of that. You know, when we used to do the tours with Ike. You know what I mean? Y'all used to come to Jamaica. I used to bring out the dancers with the bananas. It was wild. With the bananas. It was crazy.

Left right niggas, it was crazy. You already know. This is his whole, he's stabbed his left right niggas. It was wild. With the banana. What's up with that? Left-back niggas is crazy. You already know. This is his whole... He's establishing left-back niggas. It's crazy. He's a wild guy, bro. Bro, man. Big up E-Money bags.

Big up E-Money bags. E-Money bags on left. A lot of people don't know it. Big up E-Money bags. You know what I'm saying? You know, with pain and sorrow, you know what I mean? Big up E-Money bags. It hurts. It hurts, you know what I mean? Even with Preem right here, you know what I mean? Big up E-Money bags. It hurts.

It hurts, you know what I mean? Even with Preem right here, you know what I mean? Like, even with Preem right here, it hurts to see how brothers, you know what I mean? Like, let street shit, like, just fuck everything up, man. And everybody's flying, getting money and doing their thing. And just this little dumbass street shit fucking everything up. And niggas is meeting their demise, man. Like, you know like i hate that shit that's why i want to you know he's like yo you gotta do it og and i was like yo you gotta be there too man just so that we could you know

what i mean like be examples man are like yo man let's get this shit right man everybody fly man everybody in this fucking building right now i just, man, the homie got the shades on with the waves. That shit inspiring the shit out of me, man, right now, man. That's what I want to see, man. We all fly, man. Why we killing each other, man? God damn, man. Get that nigga a suit, man. Take a shot.

Take a shot. Come on, girl. For once. Come on. Right there. There you go. Come on, man. That's some expensive shit.

I'm going to do this. Just do one. Just do one. Just do one. That's some expensive shit. I'm going to do this. Just the one. Just the one. Just the one. I'm going to do this. That's some expensive shit. What are you doing, man? Because this is to you.

I'm going to Japan in July. Come on. So I'll just do you. Stop sitting on us, man. What'd you say? This is to you. All right, man. This is to Japan, man.

This is good. This is to Korea. Let's go. Now, how about the beatbox? See what my man Jay got you all all crazy about right now? You know man As soon as Jay said it Everybody went crazy

I ain't gonna lie Hold on I said it about five years Before Jay's back I'm just gonna That boy right there That boy right there Is the top of the top

You said it on this show Oh I did I did Oh yeah he did I did I read all that Japanese Yeah that boy been Louis Bagg

I'm just giving you a prize I made another segment On your face Yo we was chilling Hard and awesome man You know Yo we was chilling So yo we got the flicks Yeah, that boy been Louis Bagg. I'm going to give you your price. I made another segment on your face. We was chilling hard in Austin, man. You know, we was chilling. Yo, we got the flicks, man. We had the round tip.

We had, like, it was a couple of females. Shout out to Lord Finesse. Yeah, it was a couple of females. Oh, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. All shit. All shit. It was nice, man. I mean, yeah, not exclusive.

Accurate. When I seen the joint, I was like, yo, that's young bro right there, man. He doing like how I do it, man. No doubt. I learned from the best. Good for life, man. Word up, man. No doubt.

And we got some fire on deck, man. We just like, yo, it was so crazy how it happened because Dave was in town. And then young bro hit me up. He's like, yo. When you say Dave, you talking about Dave Chappelle? Of course. That's the only Dave right say Dave You talking about Dave Chappelle Of course That's the only Dave right now What about the Dave

I mean No no no Dave Lasso Dave Like rest in peace There is a Dave Dave Lasso Rest in peace Let me sit up for that man

Absolutely You want to take a shot for that That's the bro man It's true I could do that I could do that Here we go I could do that

Absolutely Nice little shot Nice little shot I need a shot for Dave That's whiskey I need a shot I that. That's whiskey. I need a shot. I'm going to Japan.

Give him a shot. Nobody wants to drink Mama Juana with... Come on. What is that? I don't want to sound racist. I'll be... You just said you're from Flushing,

but everybody's from... Take that one right there. That's Chuck's. Salo. Yeah, but no. I got to talk about when my young bro would get tangled up online.

Yo, let's talk about how my young bro would get tangled up online all the time. I'm not going to allow you, Tyler. I'd be having a good time. I'd be stuck down. I love it.

If Twitter fingers was a picture, it would be you. I'm I know. I love it. I love it. If Twitter fingers was a picture, it would be you. I'm not allowed on Twitter no more. At times. At times. I'd be so proud of you. Jerry Springer's proud of you, too. Yo, listen.

You take it. Listen, let me tell you about Tyler. He takes on every racist in the world. I don't know how he has time, bro. He goes and does his show. He needs to hire some A.I. to do it. I'm convinced. I'm convinced. I'm convinced.

Listen. I'm convinced Talit wakes up and just Googles, who's racist today? You know what? I think he's doing it in his sleep too, bro. I'm convinced. He just stay ready.

He just stay ready. And that's what it is. You know, that's the part of the Dave Chappelle episode that I wanted to keep in. It's when Dave, Dave is making fun of you. Dad, we haven't seen you

since that. No, I spoke to Talib. No, no, no, but we haven't seen him. I feel like me and Talib get close to every fucking disaster drink champs episode. What the fuck?

Disaster drink champs? Oh, Kanye. Kanye. But Kanye shit was ill because I heard you call my name out, but he said Premier, but it was like a little bit of like a little delay in that shit, like something had happened and shit.

It was like motherfucking God. Oh, so you don't, you don't- No, he said Lord Professor. No, he said Premier. I don't know. He said Premier. So you don't like how Kanye was talking about him on Drink Shit? Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

He didn't say nothing. No, no, no. He was torn. He was torn. He was torn. He was torn. He was torn. He was torn. He was torn.

He was torn, huh? He was delayed. And then Norm got on his Lars Pro shit. And then Norm got on his Lars Pro shit. You don't want to get on his Lars Pro shit. I don't care who you talk about. Lars Pro's the big bro. Salute.

That's right. I don't care who you pick. Either way, Lars Pro's my big bro. So either who or whoever, like, you know, that type of shit. Yeah, that's the big bro. Salute. That's right. I don't care who you pick. Either way, Lars Pro's my big bro, so either whoever, like, you know, that type of shit. Yeah, that's how we on it. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You was going to say something.

Which? About the Kanye? There was a lot going on. You got a lot to say. Believe me. The Kanye, bro. For real. I just caught a copy of that

on Mindsex on vinyl and shit, man. That's a banger. That fucking... Thank you, bro. That was crazy. Yo, you see how he just oh my god please out this time was like the hip-hop is a hip-hopper's person I'm in Northern with my pops listening to it used to be my girl. Wait, wait, wait. Northern Boulevard? Yes.

Gracie's? Did you smoke Gracie weed? My man Dennis Kelman used to date Gracie, man. That I was just talking about earlier. Hey, there's a grandma in there somewhere. I love that you said Gracie. That's Johnny Wishbone's sister. Johnny Wishbone.

That's Wishbone's sister. Y'all talking to each other. But bro, earlier than that, That's Wishbone's sister Y'all talking to each other This is me My bad That's the queen But bro Earlier than that Earlier than that I used to stand in front of

Joe's barbershop With my pops and his friends Listening to Used to be my girl By the OJ's niggas So I'm good for life bro That's right That's funny

When that nigga talks Y'all got the OJ's? I feel like I see Underneath the hood The OJ's baby That's where I go When he talks I feel like I see I feel like I see You know what it is The name is appropriate Professor Indeed

It's appropriate I was in Corona early baby Like yo early Man early I got like you know Coming out of preschool, like, graduation flicks, like, out of Corona, baby. Like, yo.

You know what was my favorite? That's the crown. You know what that, you know what Corona means, right? It's the shine over the crown. I'm so proud. Corona. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the shine. It's the shine. It's the shine over the crown. It ain't even the crown. It's the shine It's the shine It ain't even the crown

It's the shine over the crown I tried How about the beat nuts Oh my god Look look look And the native club as well Remember you were surprised you didn't know that When we were talking to Dayla

Listen beat nuts is an episode I fucked up I did tell you Yo Ju got trashed You were surprised that you didn't know that when we were talking to Dayla. Listen, Beat Nuts is an episode I fucked up. Yeah, man. I did turn that. Yo, Ju got trashed. Yo, you saw that? You saw that? Hell yeah, Ju got trashed. You saw I was trying, though.

You saw I was trying. I need to go watch this show. What do you feel here, man? I didn't want to do it. You was like, we're going to do this shit, man. I got so excited because I really love JuJu. I love both of them. Psycho Les. Psych I really love Juju. I love both of them. Psycholess.

Psycholess, excuse me. I love them both. And I got drunk before the episode. So that started my rule. I'd never drink before any episode. And the third one was Al-Tariq, right, as well? In the Al-Tariq? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Al-Tariq. And he was in Flushing. Fashion, yeah. Fast back. But the Beat Nuts good background story with them is Juju is all, like, he's on hanging out. He's on the song just hanging out. Like, in the end, like, when we talking and we like, yo, we going uptown, blah, blah. And then I'm like, yo, Juju, what's up, man?

And he's like, yo, I don't know. P-Man Lynch said he won't go to the powerhouse, man. Then my man B. That's not Juju. That's Juju. Wow. So listen, so you. I was today years old.

We're going to have beating us back. We can read you. People don't know what happened that episode. We had just finished LL Cool J. LL Cool J, it was a traveling drink chance. We were in New York. We just finished LL Cool J episode.

We were drunk as fuck. And then Nori's like sure let's do it I go no no no because I already knew what shit show was about to happen tell them how you really feel no no no

no bro because you would have you would have gave them a better no you would have gave them a better interview on your side I love how it tanked

I love how it tanked and you just you just kept going back to Big Money but off the books I love it I wasn't off the books and doing cocaine with tragedy I was like I love it. I love it. I wasn't off the books. They were like, come on.

I love it, dude. Because he was some staircase shit. That's when you can't drink champagne from some staircase shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's when we were some staircase shit. You had to drink good with the bad guys. No, no, no.

It's a process. He was like, I'll show up. That's interesting. No, and you know what? That's a part of our legacy. Stop trying to spin it. Because I had a joint for you for a movie. And you dubbed the God.

Oh, my God. Damn, you got drunk on that one, too. I got a witness. He went through the worst people in the world. I had to send it to Al Scratch. And Al Scratch. But you was like. Al Scratch took my beat?

Al Scratch, where you scratch. But you was like. I'll scratch when you took my beat. When we. When we. I'll scratch when you ask me. When we finish. Listen. I'm going to tell you EF. Yo. When we finish. Built pyramids. That's just hard.

He was like. I was in left rack. It was mad cold. I had to. On the video. On the video. Hell yeah. He was like.

Yo. Tap the beat out on the Porsche. Shit. I bought the Porsche out for you. Tap the beat out. I remember that shit. I was like, what is he doing this shit? But then that's when I figured out that you like to, you know what I mean?

Like applause? Yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. It's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like, yo, tap the beat out on the Porsche shit. Let's give you that look. I feel like you should have produced the whole album for me.

That's the future right now. Let's go. It's easy to do. Yo, you retired from rap? No, he didn't. No, man. He said... But not really.

But you still do it. Let's go. He needs to quit quitting. That's what he needs to do. That's all he needs to do is exercise. And just be true to yourself. Like, yo, that's big, bro.

That's what I've been here y'all growing you to death. You know what? That's what I've been here y'all growing you to death. And guess what? I accept it every time you said it. No doubt. And guess what? I accept it every time you said it.

And guess what? I would love to go to Power Play for a month, me and you, and just... We're going to do it. And just, yeah, just wild out. We're going to do it. That's why... There's going to be so much fun. We're going to do all that.

Yes, just... And listen, how good that record was is going to show you how good a whole project would be. And you know what's crazy? We're going to have Joel on it. Let me just tell you how good you are. Let me tell you how good a whole project would be. And you know what's crazy? We got to have Joel on it. We got to have Joel on it. Let me just tell you how good you are. Let me tell you how good you are.

When I called you and I said, yo, yo, yo, you're a large pro. I need a beat. And you said, what kind of beat? And I described it to you

and you gave me exactly what I wanted. I was like, this motherfucker's a genius. No, I know he's a left-right guy so we like, we like festivity. I love him. He has a stereotype for all you left-right genius. No, I know he's a left rack guy, so we like festivity. I love it.

He has a stereotype from all your left rack people. Yo, we like that festivity. Like, it ain't hard to tell it's a hood festive joint. You're going too fast. You're going too fast. You're going too fast.

Okay, let's stick with Nori. Let's stick with Nori. Let's stick with Nori. It's the waterfall shit, right? Cause I think you're going too fast. That's the waterfall. It was her birthday the shit right Cause I think you Going too fast That's the water It was her birthday The other day right

Left eye right Big up left eye We love her We love what We love what she Bought to the world We love what Left eye bought to the world

I would love to hear you Let me Let me take a shot You do that Let me tell you something You do that Let me tell you something We love left eye

Like I said I'm in jail. Nas, halftime drops, but then he just kind of disappears. That was a one of one. It was such a good time. He kind of disappears. It was such a great time for you. You was locked down.

And then all of a sudden, this record drops, and it's called It Ain't Hard to Tell. The hood bottle popping anthem. It's the hood bottle popping. It's the hood bottle popping It's like It's like no We not in the We not in the We not on

In Beverly Hills On On this road We in the hood But we got bottles Niggas just fly Niggas got they jewels Hallie Hanson's on

Yeah Yo everybody's fresh Yo he was on one right then At that point I'm telling you, like, that's what I wanted to create with that.

Okay, but let me ask you because is this, when y'all get in the studio, is you just, you're coming off of Halftime,

right? Halftime. Wait, Halftime was a one-off like y'all didn't know was the project? That was a one-of-one. That was when Nas

was starting to ball suck. Like a demo. He's starting to ball suck now. And this is before. So, a back-to-the-grill game. Future project really. Before back-to ball suck now. And this is before. So there's no future project. Before Back to the Gorilla Gap. Yeah. Right?

So then you got Halftime, Back to the Gorilla Gap, and then now we hear It Ain't Hard to Tell. Yeah. Did you know when you was in the studio this is going to be

his first single? Did you make it that way? That's what we were aiming for. Aiming for the first single. Yes. Okay. Yes, indeed. And so your mind was,

did you know what he was going to rhyme about? Did you hear the... Oh, no. Yes, indeed. And so your mind was, did you know what he was going to rhyme about? Did you hear the... Oh, no, bro. I mean, it was... I mean, his rhymes were... He was just confident when he was going to come.

Exactly. I was like, the guy... You know, the guy got his department. Yeah, he's like... He got his department. I got my department. He got his department. Like, and we...

Was there... Was there ego in it? In it. Ego in it because this is the era... But it because this is the era. But listen, this is the era of the producer ego. The producers were the bigger egos in the MCs at this time. You remember that time?

The producers were the harder ones to deal with. The only thing I think that may have happened was a little thing that happened a few times was because i was gunning like i needed to make some money oh so you was like i was gunning so i'm working with this one and that one and that one and that one and then now some brothers who think i should have specifically honed in on they joined right they feel a way like ah he over there with doing this. And, you know, they know that they, you know, they about to take off in a major way. And they like, yo. And so, you know, but I'm like, yo, now I got you. I'm going to swing back.

You know, I got to go over here real quick, you know. And they like, ah. So that could happen. You know, that happens. You know what I'm saying? It happens. It happens. You know what I'm saying?

So it'd be like. I'm not going to lie, large professor. You speak in haikus, man. That's how Jesus used to speak. I thought he was the rapper. Do you know what a haiku is? It's like parables, right?

Like, yeah. That's how Jesus used to speak. They say Jesus spoke in parables. Did y'all ask him his top five producers of all time? No. Not yet.

Is he going to? Yeah. No No. Not yet. Let's go. Is he going to? Yeah. No, he's not. Let's go. Boom. All right. So my top five.

All time. Oh, man. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man. Well, definitely Molly. This is very interesting, by the way. Definitely Molly Mall. Okay.

Like, Molly Mall is the man that gave me my first check. You know what I mean? His son, like, he calls me Uncle. Like, you know, little M, like, I love M Will.

Like, I loved him. Like, I could cry right now thinking about what Molly did for me. And, you know, it was only like

a little $2,500. You know what I mean? But that was just enough to get, because I could get my drum machine, y'all. You know what I'm saying?

Oh, man. My moms was like, yo, I went to my moms, I was like, and I, you know, I was jokey with my moms. Like, after a while after I grew up and shit, like, I started testing, was I like, yeah, I'm going to just go ask mom, see if she, you know, just for a while

I was like, she's like, how much is it? You know what I mean? I'm like, $2,500. She's like, alright. I thought she was going, nigga, I didn't fuck you joke around. $2,500, brother. like, all right. I thought she was going, nigga, fuck you, Joe. $2,500, brother. Let's big up to Mama Love for having me. But it came with that, you know,

when you want my money back, when you want my money back to me, you know what I mean? My mother's from Harlem. You know what I'm saying? When you want my money back to me, I was like, Mommy, I did some production. I got Intelligent Harlem.

You know, Fatal. You know, because my mom's and Fatal's birthday is the same day. As a matter of fact, we back out here. We doing our show with Kane, with Salon Remy. Shout out to Salon Remy, man. Salon. Remy. He said Salon Remy.

Remy. Yeah, no doubt. Like Do Re Mi, Fa Sol La Ti. Nah, it's Remy. Remy. It's like Do Re Mi Fa Yeah he got the museum right here Exactly

Museum Wow Yeah so Like We in close proximity Of course We work with Salon very closely Exactly

So June 10th Yeah that's when we doing that Doing a lot And that's mom's and Fado birthday So you know what I mean Like that's You know it's just all love You know what I mean It's all love I'm so know, it's just all love. You know what I mean?

It's all love. That's so fucking fire, man. He's such a music man. I wish you would have came through, too, man. Hold on, but you ain't exactly say how this ain't hard to tell session happened. Damn, man, we was talking about the top five producers. Like, we spinning. We spinning all over the place right now.

Let's do the top five first. You said Molly. And then you said the same And now I definitely Definitely want to Talk about my man My mentor And I'm doing what

I seen him do My man 45 King Mark 45 King 45 King don't get it enough Yes Mark 45 King He came first Like I said I mentioned earlier that he, along with Biz Markie,

always appealed to that innocence, that child thing in us. Because he's the one that made the beat for It's a Hard Knock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? It's always that little kid. You know what I mean Like it's all Like wild out loops

And shit like that And shit that we wild out You know what I'm saying Like You know how we used to do In the rooms and shit You know what I'm saying How the girls in the room

And shit like that I mean Oh my bad I don't want to talk like These niggas married And shit like that Shit used to get It used to go down like that It's a We already did. My bad. My bad. It used to go down like that.

It's a fucking fact. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. My bad. Shit was crazy. Come on.

We was rolling with Mr. Put It In Your Mouth. Come on. You know shit was wild. Shit was wild with us. You know what I mean? He looking at me. All right. Oh.

All right. I got two right now. That's honorable mention. No, no, no. Before L, I want to put I got two right now. That's honorable mention. No, no, no. Before L, I want to put my man Davey D, MX. Oh, Davey D, MX? So Davey put me inside the cat to lack. The chauffeur drove off and he never came back.

Davey D. Dave, yeah. Dave cut me some orange crush. See? Dave. I used to sell crack call Orange Crush. Salute, soldier. Like my man, Shai Jean.

It look like Lord Ness. Shai Jean would say that shit. Salute, soldier. Salute, trooper. Trooper the game. So that's three. So you giving Davey D? Davey D, of course.

That's Hollis. Oh, my God. That's Hollis, man. I need four and five. No, when you're in four or five Four or five He stay on his New York Super New York Alright so you want me

To spin off No no no I want you to stick with Your grill All time And that include Like everybody Like Quincy

Oh no Alright so then I'll definitely put L After that because Like all that Houdini stuff And all that shit Yeah Larry Smith Yeah

And then It's a beautiful thing With this thing Because I know a lot of these guys Sons now And shit like that Like I know a lot of they lineage Like you know

Like young Preem and shit Like yo Cause Preem Preem actually reached out to me During the MySpace days I don't know You know They had that account up for him

And shit And he was like Yo man It's like And I'm like damn man I wish this You know This story would've turned out better Because every When you look at the shit in the borough, in the Q borough, everybody was fly.

Like, you look at Fifth, you look at this stream, you look at all these niggas and just put them in there, like, just remove the beef. Remove the fucking beef and just put them niggas in the picture together and it's a fucking, look, all fly niggas. Black Jus. Black Jus. put them niggas in the picture together and it's a fuck is look it's all fly niggas yeah black just black just that's the flyest nigga on earth just take the beat out of this shit and just put them niggas together it's a bunch of fly niggas from queens right and they always say that people come to me they say yo they told me don't fuck with y'all queens niggas because y'all niggas don't even get along with yourselves. I hate that. And then we manifested that shit through the music,

all types of shit. I was like, damn, man, now I got to really embrace my Harlem shit more hard. Stay sitting next to a BK nigga. A BK nigga to the heart. You BK Kings, man? The BK Kings? Nah, that definitely was. Okay, so that's three.

We got three. What's the four and five? All right, four and five. I'm going to definitely, definitely, definitely, man, because right now, man, they trying to come down on my man, but that's my nigga for life, man. My nigga Pete Rock. Word.

My nigga Pete Rock. Why they trying to come down on Pete Rock? Because of the L-matic? He trying to sue? There's all types of shit. Yeah, yeah. He said why, and then he gave me the reason why. Burn up.

Nah, yeah, nah, nah. You know, shit get a little kooky at times and shit, man, but that nigga's work, man, my brother's work, man, could never go denied, man. Like, that brother, man, he put down super heat for too many people, man. And Pete Rock is definitely in my list of top dogs on them beat machines and shit like that. Word. I want to say something for everybody. And your vitamins joint, I need, I'm going to do a series and shit. I'm going to, maybe you can help me with this because you got a sponsor.

I know you got the big doors. We need to do something, man. Nori, man, I'm going to put this out to you, man. We need to do a joint called Her Shows where niggas do all they B-size, all them joints. And we curate the list of the joints they do. So when we do Nas' joint, he going to do on the real. He going to do. You going to pick the list for him?

Yeah, we going to pick it out. I respect that. And you know, brothers know brothers brothers gonna have to go and recap they're gonna have to figure their shit back out because they don't know them lyrics again you know i mean it's gonna take a minute yeah it's a performance but it's called her shows it's all the class like you're gonna do vitamins you're gonna do the pete rock yeah i got you i got you no no like we you, I got you. Let me say something, because I don't think Pete Rock knows this. One more producer, right? One more producer. And this list is always,

this list always varies, this list always varies, but today I will put him there, and it always fluctuates, like he may be my number one At times Whatever And actually he had Because our

Birthdays just passed But DJ Premier Oh DJ Premier He did the beat For Firing Squad For M.O.P. Come on man

He did all Gangstar In general Everything gangstar This is amazing He did Gunslinging Like gunslinger shit

Like You know what song I love that you did Nigga I love my life I always I love that you did, nigga? I love my life. I always... I hear that shit all the time. I love that.

You ain't got my vinyl. He's not going to take it to crazy. You don't have vinyl. You don't have vinyl, niggas, to death. Who were the other four he said? We bought these choices today. Let me tell you how secret about I love my life. I don't know if you know or not. And it was just Allison Williams' birthday the other day.

I love my life. The circle that you used, Allison Williams' birthday was just the other day. She was on Def Jam. You used the Def Jam record, brother. Nas is the original. The chorus was Nas on Yeah It was

Nas wrote You blew his mind The hook The hook The hook It was on the stand Damn I couldn't afford Nas

Twice on my album That melts my heart Let me just do it So I had my name in the truck And if you look Yeah If you look here Hold on The story Body in the trunk. And if you look here,

hold on. The story. If you listen to the story very close, Nas is also in the studio. He's the guy in the background. Bitch ass niggas. That's him in the background because Nas was just around me at the time. So I picked Body in the trunk over I Love My Body in the Trunk over I Love My Life

but then I switched I Love My Life and I put Carl Thomas on there. So, so yeah. So, that hook was

wrote by Niles. Niles was just in there. And that's Niles Scott. And I'm going to take his out. I'm going to take his out of here.

But shout out Carl Thomas too. He killed that too. I killed that shit. Brock was asleep. Carl Thomas killed me. He killed that, too. Like, Nas was just rocked him to sleep. Carl Thomas killed that. Night, night. Oh, my.

I want to say I was the hottest rapper in the world at the time. I want to say that. But Nas was just my big brother. The orange and blue. He was just my big brother. And he rocked the Bo Jackson's, the orange and blue. So Nas was in the studio. But you know what you did right there?

Let me cut your words for a second, yo. Go ahead. Yo. Let me spray some cream. You know what? No, no. Don't spray that shit in my drink. No, no.

Don't spray that shit in your drink. Costing a gin nigga. Costing a gin nigga. What the fuck? What is this? It's cream. It's cream. It's some rich shit.

Yo, you know what you did, man? It was a power move when I heard it. I don't know if Trash suggested it. I don't know what. But you, it was like, you connected. Like, because Left Rack didn't have any musical identity at the time. Other than Akineli and Soul Sisters. Damn.

That's the question. I should have bought theirs. I have doubles of theirs also. Yes, yes, yes. I'm talking like Doc Burns, right? Big up Doc Burns. I have doubles of theirs also. All right, so, yo, bro, Burns. I have doubles of this also.

Yo, bro, man. That shit is crazy, man. You connected with Jamaica with that song. That was like Grandmaster Vic Blinn type shit right there. It was like... It was like, ooh, this nigga, what he know about Jamaica? What he know about Jamaica? What do you know about Jamaica?

He's from Westbrook. He's from Westbrook. Did you hear that shit? And I was like, yo. I know this ain't the way to happen, right? He just created that. Let me tell you how it happened. Let me say it.

I'm going to be honest with you. Because I thought Trash made it. I thought Trash made it. Trash has nothing to do with NRE album at all. Me and him fell out. He made a diss record. I made a diss record. So he has nothing to do with NRE album at all. Me and him fell out. He made a diss record, I made a diss record, so he has nothing to do with the NRE album. What it was was me and Trash.

You was hanging in Jamaica though. You was in Jamaica. I'm a 107 on Guy Brewer. I just sell cracker, 107 on Guy Brewer. I said it. God damn it, look at that. Look at that. That's the go-to.

You know what that is? You know what that is. You know what that is. You know what that is. I said it. That girl. That is centered now. It's straight to it. You feel me when I'm playing.. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. That is centered now. It's straight to it.

You feel me when I'm saying it? No, but look. Now it has a scent to it. It'll bring you back. No, no, no. Let me describe to you how this record was made. I walked in. EZ LP was there.

Shout out. EZ LP. He's a legend, man. EZ LP's so ill, man. I haven't spoken to you in a long time. I want you to know the love is still there. He did Money, Power, Respect. Yeah, he did that as well, I believe.

He did Sometimes. He did Bloody Money. Sometimes, which is fucking amazing. So check it. So I'm just in the studio. Yes. And I fully write the whole shit. As soon as I hit a beat.

I'm fucking out. And Nas walk in. He literally says, give me a five and walk straight to the joint. To the joint The booth Cause I Cause remember he had He had He had a joint Where he was singing on

AZ's joint And I was like Yo I want you singing On one of my Give me What you can Yeah yeah yeah So I was like

Yo Can I get Nas Singing on one of my joints Oh we talking Heavy Queens right now. We talking heavy Queens, bro. And listen, listen. And this is where I'm saying we need to bring this shit back and just highlight some of those.

I'm going to finish this whole bottle. Because, yo, we got super heat. You know how much heat we got? Like, I'm in there examining now. Like, all right, hold up. Yo, that shit we just mentioned, that AZ and Nas joint. Yeah, keep going. I'm going to give it right back to you.

So it was literally Nas walked in the studio and gave me a five. And then he gave me a five. And then he literally didn't say nothing to me until he finished the hook. He just went straight in the studio. That's his work ethic. I love my life. Yo. I so love my life.

Rock him to sleep. Rock him to sleep. Because remember, I had to wait and told him. Did you leave some of his vocals in the background or no? I couldn't. Nah. I couldn't afford it. No, but call, call.

Oh, because that was a clearance issue? No, because Sony, you was on Sony at that time, right? I went through it. You was on Sony at that time. I went through it. I went through all of it. Sony literally listened to it and was like, because Sony, you was on Sony at that time, right? I went through it. You was on Sony at that time. I went through all of it. Sony literally listened to it and was like,

because we did. Because on CNN, you guys, you heard. Yeah, I did hear. You heard the version with Nas still on there, but we never used that. But Carl is fire.

Yeah, Carl killed it. And you know what I always love? I love, wish I never, wish I never. At the end, at the end of that shit Y'all always love Catching that shit

Where you just keep saying Wish I never Yo that shit is crazy yo Carl Thomas Pick him up Carl Thomas Yeah man Carl Thomas

Yeah yeah Carl Thomas Just to come to my weed sessions But I He used to sell us weed Really Carl Thomas used to sell you weed? With her? Yeah he used to live He used to live with Benny Boom really. Carl used to sell you weed? Yeah, he used to live with Benny Boom.

Hey, yo, Carl, where you at, man? Carl used to live with me. Carl Thomas. And Hakeem. And Hakeem Green. Hakeem. Channel 11. Hakeem Green, my homie.

Hakeem Thomas. They was on Washington Ave. Oh, that's right. Yes, that's right. He was the first one we used to sell us. And sell us high grade. He used to come through with it. That's right He was the first one He used to come through with it And we didn't know he was an artist We didn't know he was an artist He had that been around the world

And I was like I was smoking with him He was like I'm tired With Loon Carl Thomas and Loon Really? Yeah

He was fucking with Diddy He's been around the world Not that one But with Loon With Loon He was fucking with Diddy He He's been around the world. Not that one. But with Loon. With Loon. Diddy, he was fucking with Diddy. He did the been around the world shit. It was a remix.

I didn't even know that that was a nice one. It was hot. Yeah, no. It was like a rap. And I'm a song top. And he said, I'm tired. I said, what you tired from? He said, I was in the studio.

I said, you in the studio? He said, yeah, I'm on Bad Boy. And this is the guy serving you? It's so crazy that we finding this out at the same time. It's the first time

I'm really hearing that you know this too. Because it happened to me because you was in the same studio. You was at Brooklyn with both of y'all niggas. He's serving both of us.

And we don't even know Carl Thomas Sr. That's crazy. Wait, this is in Brooklyn? This is in Brooklyn? Because I know you guys were recording in Brooklyn. No, no, we were recording in Manhattan. We was recording in San...

You was living in Brooklyn at that time. I was living in Brooklyn. Yeah, I mean... I'm from my cutting room. Okay. He used to come to cutting rooms. That's where Just Blaze... Yeah.

We used to be at all the time. I used to meet Carl Thomas at cutting rooms selling me weed. Yeah. From... Carl Thomas is a hell of a man. Yeah. Carl Thomas, you're out here drug of a man. He's Carl Thomas. He's a drug dealer full fledged.

He's yo. Yo. And get another record with Carl Thomas, please. No, I don't know. Hell yeah. We got to get Carl back. He's an amazing artist.

He turned out to be like something that I never, like you said, like I never knew that he would, you know, and I ended up living in Houston and he lived in Houston

I don't know where Carl Thomas is right now But we became close I had him up here No no yeah Nah but he been around He's coming to the car I love not yet man

I love not yet Over no I love I've been saying that a lot lately I've been saying more Not yet than no Absolutely Yeah because You know why large Possibility know, I want you to know, like, I know at times we was talking and you was thinking like the industry probably blocked us from connecting.

But I just wanted to tell you, like, face to face, man to man, that's not true at all. Like, you know, maybe it's just the times just wasn't right. But I don't want to ever have like a Illuminati rumor. Because sometimes people think that. Sometimes people think that. The conspiracy is a conspiracy. I think you kind of said that. I think you kind of was saying trash is just keeping me away from you.

And I got to tell you, that's not, that's false. I got to tell you, I've been wanting to connect with you. I just didn't know how to do it. Sometimes, let me finish. Sometimes, you don't know how to connect with your OGs. And I always edit this every time I say this man's name. But this time, I'm not going to edit it. Melly Mel was probably the toughest person to me I've ever met in hip hop.

Right. And warranted so, right? Later on, after I became 40 years old, I was like, I get it. Because now when I look at these dudes that's come up to me and say, yo, Nori, you know, or whatever, whatever, and then they're here for six months and they leave,

that five that I gave you wasn't you, I wanted to take my five back. It wasn't worth it. I want to take my five back. So, when M It wasn't worth it I want to take my five back So When Melly Mel was so strong And so hard on me He wanted you to pay your dues Melly Mel used to be like this

When I used to see Melly Mel He used to be like Ain't fucked And he was one of the illest He was the illest And I had to extensively Like move my five out And then he would be like

And then it wasn't until I started Drink Champs You a fine nigga though You a fine nigga Hold on, hold on, hold on Listen It wasn't until I started Drink Champs and Nas. You a fine nigga though. You a fine nigga. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Listen, it wasn't until I started Drink Champs

until I had, Melly Mel had a show at Mass Appeal with Nas. It was the first time he gave me a real five that I respected. Melly Mel came up to me

and was like, I love that fucking show. And you know, Melly Mel was strong as a motherfucker. And we need Melly Mel on Drink Champs now. He was a motherfucker,

so... You had him already on? Nah, I haven't had him on. Yo, my... We're racing to it. Nah, he needs to be on both of our shows. But I'm going to tell you something.

Smack the shit out of your head. Smack the shit out of my head. I'm going to tell you something. I respect that vibe. That's how she goes saying the shit. That was probably the best... That was probably the best vibe

I ever received in my life. And it was worth me because he had to look at me. He had to look at my soul and to say, are you worth hip hop? And he gained your respect. Are you? He validated you. He gained that respect. And to me, hold on, let me finish.

There comes a time. Hold on, Pete, let me finish. Let me finish because it was at that very moment that I was like, you know what? I finally gained the respect of a pioneer. Like, I did know Kool Herc. Yes, of course. I do know Grandmaster Flash and Casanova. I know all of them.

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When Melly Mel finally accepted me, and by the way, he might say, nigga, I still don't accept Nori. He might say that right now. That's his style. But that's the moment. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. That's his style. But that's the moment. That's his style. At Mass Appeal was,

he finally gave me that five that I wanted. And it's crazy because I recently gave Soldier Boy that five. Ooh. Me. And you were like, never. At one point.

Yes. At one point. At one point, yes. But recently, I gave Soldierja Boy that same jackpot. His work is in, right? And I was like. A lot of good work, right? A lot of good work.

Nah, Soulja Boy, he deserves it. You deserve it. A lot of work. But what his lane is, he deserves it, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got a lot of good work. I've been wanting to give Soulja Boy that five. But I didn't.

I don't have a Soulja Boy. I didn't realize. I don't have a Soulja Boy. I became't realize. I don't have a Soulja Boy. I became. We don't have to. That's the thing. We don't have to. But I respect his work.

I do. You feel like you have to have? I'm about to be. Oh, yeah, yeah. I love it. I love you. And the other one, the other one,

you got to dunk. You got to dunk. She got to dunk. She got to dunk. She got to dunk. She got to dunk. I'm going to definitely check for Soulja.

You know, but all that miscellaneous. I'm just saying, I like that. No, no, no. I'm saying you definitely check for soldiers. I'm not saying you have to. I'm just saying I like that. I'm saying you don't have to to respect the game. You don't have to to respect someone's work. That's what I want to do as a large professor of hip-hop. I may have even caused some lag

or some shit. You know what I mean? The other day and shit, I always loved my bro. I was just hanging with him Down there in Texas With Termin With Termin Paul Wall

You know what I'm saying? Paul Wall's dope I'm in the shop and shit You know what I'm saying? I never gave Paul Wall love No? You don't like Paul Wall? I never gave him love

But listen What does that mean? I'm giving him love right now But so hold on Relax, relax Yeah, I want you Because you going to Expand on it I'm going to relax mean? I'm giving him love right now. But so hold on. Relax. Relax. Relax. Relax. Relax. Relax. Relax. Relax. Relax. Relax. Relax. Relax. Because you got to relax right now.

Expand on it. You got to relax right now. I'm going to relax. Exactly. Because that's my bro right there. Okay. Okay. You know what I mean?

So Paul Wall, when I met him and shit, you know what I mean? And that's why another brother, I was like, yo, you know Royal Flush? You know these ones? And he was telling me whether or not he knew him and things like that. But yo, I was in the shop and I'm like, yo, I see sitting sideways and shit. I'm like, hell yeah. Hell yeah. I got gotta grab that and you know me so oh you want the vinyl yeah okay i was like yeah i gotta cop that you know what i mean like so and that and that's the thing i want to do that for even them generations like but just throw that on like why poppy ain't on

vinyl bro that poppy album need to be on vinyl. It's not on vinyl. I'm about to buy that shit. Exactly. Get that shit. Throw that shit on vinyl. Money, you know, money, money in the bag. But I want, and one,

tell me, yeah, I want to hear it. I want to go back. Let me ask this question. No, no, but let him, no, no, I want to, you want the poor wall? Yeah, I want to hear

his take on it. Because, let me just ask you this one. I want to do that. I want to find a soldier boy behind the back. Let him just say what he got to say

and then ask the question. Let me ask you because... It ain't nothing. No, no, no. I got to ask you because you are like, you know, every... What Memorial Day?

What is it, Ross? That we bring the black Marcus Garvey flag out? Juneteenth. Juneteenth. Every Juneteenth, we win a boat. Yeah.

And we put the Marcus Garvey flag. We put the Africa flag. And we go right next to the whitest white flag. As you should. We put the Africa flag. As you should. And we go right next to the whitest white people. As you should. We love it. We love it. We love it.

And we love it. And by the way, we like this. And they love it. And they love it. They love it. They love it too. Do they party with y'all party? No, they be like, where's my white friend Diego?

I think you probably sent me a text from that boat. Listen, listen. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it.

I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it.

I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it.

I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it, listen, listen. I mean, we got it on film. You got to have that press go on that boat. They should be celebrating with us. Honestly,

they should be celebrating with us. Every team, we take the Marcus Garvey, the red, black, and green flag. You know he was in the bookstore, right? Listen, listen.

You better stop. Listen, we go in the middle of the ocean and put a number of white people. I love that. And then we put the flag right there and let the shit just float. Right.

And then all the white people always says, they say, who our flag? And then my friend Diego, he's always on the boat with us and he says, he's our flag, bitch.

And Diego's white. He's on the front line. That's what white allies are supposed to do. They put their body in front of them. I want to hear him say it. So what I'm trying to say is, That's what white allies are supposed to do. They're supposed to put their body in front of them. So what I'm trying to say is, I think of you, you don't know this,

but I think of you and your brother, Dan Presley. Stick and M1. Every time we do this. So you are known as an Afrocentric pro-black group.

So when you say you never gave Paul Wall love, is that because of his skin color? And again, I to go sit here right here I don't want to give him his flag. Please not because that's where we was going. Because for real part of my building makeup as I was becoming aware of what life is main source dropped their album. Which was part of my makeup as a 15-year-old,

16-year-old hip-hop nigga, 17, 18. Tallahassee? Still? I want to say, what year was it? That would be 92, 91, 92.

I was in Tallahassee. Okay, okay. I had gone, I was at Florida A&M University We did a show over there In Tallahassee So you drop in and I'm loving We's in Tampa Bay too We's all over the place

We's out here So boom I just gotta say to this What I gained and developed From hip hop at that point made me so aware of my surroundings and who we are that that that made me have a voice you thank you made me have a voice i'm telling you friendly game of baseball it hit me so hell I'm like, these niggas is crooked. The whole system is crooked. Right. Based on our analysis.

I'm saying how my people seen it. How my people seen it. It's fucked up. And my man came through on some poetic shit and broke it down on some poetic shit. And there's no way to do it. So we in here. And I'm here. I'm fucking with us in hip hop. And I'm here, fucking with us, in hip-hop.

And I can't lie. Not only that, we moved from Tallahassee to New York. We are there, President, me, Steve, Brooklyn, right?

Brooklyn, Lord Jamar, all of this. You always write by Sputnik, right? You always write by Sputnik. That's later. Okay, no doubt.

Earlier, we were down south, 560 State Street, the same way as Jay. Sputnik days. I'm talking about 560 State Street, the same way as Jay. I'm talking about 560 State Street, Lower Jamar, downtown. This is, I see Jay going in the building. You live in the same building as Jay Z?

Same building as Jay. The fuck is, where the fuck did I not see this? Same building as Jay. You didn't grow up in that building. 560 State Street. No, no, we was couch surfing. We was couch surfing on Lord Jamar's couch. Wow. At 560 State Street, and the rock was being built in that building.

I actually saw some money in them. Everybody was coming through. All of them was in that building. And we had developed what we were going to talk about and be about. So we were going to protect all the shit that you gave us. That's what we were going to talk about and be about. So we were going to protect all the shit that you gave us. That's what we were doing. We're like, let's make an album that definitely says, let's define what our brother said.

And we want to party and bullshit too. Right. But we're going to keep it here. Make a stand. What we're going to do right here is go back. We back. So let me fast forward. Yeah.. Way back. So let me fast forward. Yeah, because you should have gone on.

Let's get to it. I just want to get fast forward because I didn't lose sight. Right. Because that's who I am for those. And to give him his flowers in this moment. Absolutely. As well. Yes, I need one of those.

I don't know. Is that for you or for me? I don't know. That's please. Lord, that's canned drink. Thank you. You know that's the smoke. can't drink. Thank you. You know what I said. Lord Nance is a smoker. And so, that boy smokes.

He smokes. I just got to say that. He smokes. I got to say. Pick up tomorrow. I met Bun B on Lord Jamar's couch. Wow. In Brooklyn.

In that same 560 State Street, I met Bun B. He took me to meet Pimp C. We met Pimp C here actually in Miami. Lord Jamal, Bun B, Pimp C, Dad Press. Rest in peace, Pimp C. I love Houston, Texas. I love what Houston represents to the world.

Absolutely. Because based off of them country ass niggas who said what they said and they ain't fuck around with it They was clear They were clear about what it was So I can't lie So let me fast forward

So when I see Paul Wall I'm very Torn is it? Look you gotta show me You gotta show me I've always been a show me And I've been around White boys In black people's music.

He did show you. But I did not know that he knew. I did not know that he knew. So then I moved to Houston. I can't lie. It was because of Face and Bun, basically, because I moved to Houston after Brooklyn. And I really wasn't clear on who Paul Wall was and so for I mean we see all each other I just did not was not being

clear so just to say this before this conversation and because you also gave him his flowers and validated him and I and I want to do that in this moment. No doubt. Because I never did. No doubt. But you asked me, so I'm going to say it. You know, he definitely, to me, had to be clear that he was in this not as like an exploiter of it. Never. I couldn't see it. But I didn't know. I don't know. You're not saying.

You're not saying. I don't know him. M-A-M. I mean, I don't think that has anything to do with it, to be honest with you. I'm talking about his story. I know his story. I think just the screw angle, like where he comes from, chameleon air. I know his story.

Like, he comes from a mixed-faith world. Honestly, I know his story, so this is facts. That's not who it is today for me. You know what I'm saying? Pick up the wall. Just speaking of the past tense. To add on. Past tense. That's all I'm saying? No, but I think that's not what it is. Just speaking of the past tense. To add on. Past tense.

You're not knowing back then. He's saying. I did not know. He's saying that. He wasn't. He's saying that he had never given him his love before. Yeah, he said past tense. In the past.

In the past. Yeah. And I want to do it now. No doubt. Oh, that's what he said. That's what I'm talking about. I want to do it now. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. That boy is real.

I'm going to be honest with you. I mean, I know you're giving him love, but when he came to drink champs. He always had a fresh cut. Yo, no. He got a low season. What were your criteria for excellence? That's why we rocked with him. That's why we rocked with him That's why we rocked with him

We was like Yo we got a low season No but he's a student of the game This is what to me Is more important than anything else If you're a student of the game And Paul Wall is a student of the game When you was talking about Illmatic

Something that Em said Was interesting to me He said He said it's very subjective That you would make that album The best album Cause you think It's album queens That's what he said, it's very subjective that you would make that album the best album. Because you think it's album queens.

That's what he said. That's what he meant. And I think, but that's what he was saying from his perspective. Yes. How he, the music he making,

that's why his perspective is subjective on Paul Wall. Yeah. I think that's the concept. Because you was making the exact opposite music. I was so,

I was so fucked up with this system and distrustful. And that's honesty. Yeah, it's honesty. I mean, I'm not the only one who feels this way. Absolutely. I just want to say that.

No, no, no. No. A hundred percent. This is a two-parter. This is a two-parter. A hundred percent. I remember you guys being on here and you guys having feelings about Steve Rifkin.

We did. And still openly, my partners, Stick and Steve, still talk openly about the angst that we have about the exploitation. And Steve can never escape the fact that his music

is completely exploitive of us. And to this day. To this day. You heard Snoop talk about it just down today. Can you say that again? Say that again. This music has been exploitive of black people until this day. The music industry. And what was he saying about Snoop talk about it just the other day. Can you say that again? Wait, wait, say it again. Say that again. Sorry, sorry. I apologize. This music has been exploitive of black people until this day.

The music industry. And what was he saying about Snoop? And Snoop. Referencing. Oh, with the streaming. With the streaming. Referencing streaming. Yes, yes, yes.

I saw that. With Larry Jackson. Points toward. You said it right, steaming. That's what Snoop be doing. Streaming, streaming, streaming. Streaming. That nigga be steaming.

It is steaming. Points toward the exact same mechanism that's never been right because it is like it's never been right that's how little you make but also with somebody like paul wall like as you start to mention when you start to defend his place in the culture you start talking about cultural things that he's done exactly there exists racist white rappers a hundred percent but they would never be on a level of a poor wall. Never. Ever.

Shout out Slim Thug. Yeah. And who used to live near me in Houston, who helped me to understand this shit even more. Because, like, this was cruel for him. You know what I'm saying? This was family. I didn't know this was not my family. No, no.

These people became my family. But that's broke. And listen, man, I was down there in Houston with them, with Bun. I got a banger coming out. Shout out to Bun, man. Such a legend, bro. Oh, yeah. Fire is fucking heat, bro.

Just like how Bill Pyramids was heat. It's along them lines. Let's do it. Bun thugged it. Yo, I'm telling you, you already know. Bun B is my family.

You did a joint with Bun? With Bun and Paul Wall in turn. Woo! Coming up right now. That's what I'm talking about. Yo, Smokin' Beast. Yo, Smokin' Beast.

This is the thing that we do. So, Smokin' Beast is this thing that we do out in New York. You know what I mean? My man, Lord Nez. You know what I mean? He's the one that spearheading this. You know, he's been on the circuit for many years. You know what I mean?

Wearing many hats. This man has worked with Russell Simmons and Rush. N.R.E. All types of shit. N.R.E. Penalty, all types of things. He got footage. Exactly.

So, you know, I was like, yo. Video Music Box, Uncle Ralph shit. Word. Video Music Box, Uncle Ralph, the Honorable. So, Smokin' Beats is an album? No, actually, it's an event that we do. It's an event. It's a movement, yeah. So what we do.

Yeah, so what we do. I love that. We park the park zines back to the lower east side of the world. Needed. It's needed. Right? And I say park zines where there's a platform and a place where there's nobody special, no VIP.

Yeah. Most Def might pop up. Yeah. Buck Wilde might pop up. He pop up. Well, we had King of Chill in there. The nigga that was doing MC Lyfe. MC Lyfe's whole album.

And they come and gavel. Right. And everybody smoke weed and get high. And play beats. And play beats. Play beats. And this nigga DJ, right? And I'll be playing all these joints.

I'll be playing I Love My Life in there many times. That's a Queens Lounge anthem. That's an anthem you already know. How long you been doing this? Is this your spot? Can we do one in Miami? Can we do it? Yeah.

Can we drink chance host it? Absolutely. Oh, that's fine. Oh, please come by. At this spot. They did my album release party at this spot. Oh, yeah. Come on.

You know I'm with it 100%. Yo, so much love in there, man. And yo, it always, like, contrary to how hip-hop used to be, yo, it starts and finishes with all love, respect. That's right. So all that old school shit, niggas fighting and all that shit, that shit don't even exist. We love it, man.

Y'all should tell them about the spot. Because cannabis in New York City is a different thing. Yo, dawgs. Because cannabis is legal in New York now. We've been smoking. You know that.

Yeah, of course. Niggas be catching cases and doing all that, but it's to a point where the mayor is smoking. Right. Shout out to Eric Adams.

Yo, E. Adams, man. Come on, man. Let's get that tourism going. Before we get all off into this, I just got to go ahead. Shout out to Eric Adams. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Come on, man. Let's get that tourism going. Before we get all off into this, I just got to go ahead. I knew you were going to say that. Wait, wait, wait.

Before we get crazy, and look, so yes, cannabis is legal to a degree. You know what I mean. It ain't legal. Because I'm telling you that the space that we're talking about that we're holding Smoking Beats in

right now, only for now, is a space that we've created. We carved this out. This is called Legacy NYC, and it's because of the legacy that we bring. So we on 98 Orchard Street. That's awesome. Right? It's me and my partner, Umi.

And it's really like when you walk in, my sister Lisa going to tell you this is a dead press, John. She was going to tell you that as soon as you walk in the door. But going to tell you This is a dead press She was going to tell you As soon as you walk in the door But truly To tell you Yeah Salon Just did his exhibit there Salon

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we established that in Lower East Side and Brooklyn for a long time and Williamsburg, right across from Supreme. We really wanted to build a place that we could have like a place to build like we call it a cultural destination

I'll be honest when I come to New York I don't come to New York without stopping through you got to you got to and so do a lot of people

oh you especially you open arms and stuff and then they got the donation next time you do a traveling drink champs let's do it exclusively there

I don't want to tell you. Even if we're not, if we just individually, we got to pass by. You should pass by. And then they got lambs down the block. Lambs down the block. Yeah.

It's nice. Our latest exhibit, apart from Salam Remy, is now... So when you said like, yo, fuck New York, like... Nah, I was just saying.

Give it a chance. You fucking up our edit right now. Give it a chance, man. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. that. Give it a chance. You fucking up our edit right now. Give it a chance, man. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, I just got to be angry. I got to balance my angriness. But hold on, let me ask you something. Is we doing smoking beats in that environment?

Right. We did smoking beats because we like, it always began in this smoky ass room with a beat machine. First with the producer, and then with this. And us being like, and that's how it happens.

The cook-up is real. The producers is off the cuff. I ain't never heard this. The cook-up is real. So Nez come in here with this fucking crazy beef. He got away with words. He got away with words. He's standing in front of 98 Orchard Street right there.

He's a rapper. Remember, he's a rapper. He's rapping to you right now, baby. He's rapping to you. And he be like, we should cook something in here with the producers. As a producer. And we did that. As a student of large.

As a student of large. We didn't even add on. So the past four years, I've been an understudy of large. Everybody know that I rap. Oh, my God. Tell them what's happening, bro. Me and him connected, and one day he left the equipment around. Just like Paul C. did for me, man.

And my Paul C. left the drum machine. Rest in peace. Real talk. This is Omos, brother. That's Omos Keith, brother, right there, for Saba. You know that. Yeah. I sat and I looked at the equipment and all and I was like, yo,

I'd be a fucking idiot if I don't take advantage of this shit. He had the records that he did Illmatic with and all these other things, the original sample. Sitting right in front of my face in my crib.

Right. So this nigga bounced, come back, wow, and I started cooking up because I learned, shout out to T.R. Love

and Ultra Magnetic. T.R., Ultra Mag, word, man, heavy. I was young, but I wasn't taking it seriously. Yo, hold up Ultra Magnetic. T.R., Ultra Mag, word, man, heavy. So I wasn't a B back when I was young, but I was a ticket. Yo, hold up, man. You know about Ultra Magnetic? Come on, man.

Come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. That's Paul C. people, too. That's Paul C. people. I feel like we back in the golden era right now. Honestly.

They play front door and target. Bro, they play front the golden era right now. We all do, honestly. They playing front door at Target. Bro, they playing front door at Target right now. It's crazy. Niggas hit me up like, yo, P, they playing front door at Target right now. It's crazy, son. We back in that era. I'm not surprised. So long story short, bro, long story long, he come back to the crib.

He at Hollis, he come to see me at Warhol. You know what I'm saying? Wild man, shout out to Ja. Oh, dog. Oh, man. Yeah, he from the corner from Ja Rule, bro. So this nigga come in the crib You know what I'm saying? Wild man, shout out to Ja Rule. Burr, dog. Burr, man. Yeah, he from around the corner from Ja Rule. Yeah, so this nigga coming to crib one day. I'm playing the beat.

I thought he was like, yo, what the fuck is that? I'm like, yo. He's like, nah, that's Sheehan, nigga. He's in. I'm like, Burr? So I started doing it again and doing it again. And he left an MP1000 with me. And I started banging out for two to three years straight,

practicing, playing around. And now what? And now what? MP1000. No. And I started banging out for two to three years straight, practicing, playing around. And now what? And now what? MP1000. No, but the one, right. But now what? You want to roll some credits? You know what I mean?

You want to roll the credits? I did the intro to E-Mart Doug's debut album to his game after the World Report since then. That's fire. I did the intro. What about my man? My man, the flashy guy. I did five mics. Joint shout out to five mics. I did his Star Study independent album. You know what I mean? What about the

brooms? You have to change. Hold up. The back block. I got to announce, and I'm blessed to say, because Jam Master J. This is the lineage. This is the lineage happening. Remember, I told you, I'm going to do it like my man, T.L. Cross. I mean, we got Ja Rule on the phone. Oh, shit! Oh, shit! Oh, shit! Oh, shit! Yo, Ja! Yo, Ja, man.

Yo, Ja, man. They told me, man. My girl, Jen, she told me that you, you know, you're doing that series, man. You're doing that series. Yo, we got Yo job man Yo job

Yo super duper Super duper Super duper Yo you such a professional man Yo I was saying that I was saying that I was like yo Cause you know I know a brother went through, you know, a couple of, you know what I mean? So, but, yo, yo, yo, how you right now?

Dogs, how you handling everything? You know what I mean? Because it's a lot of bull. Yo, I was like, yo, that brother is the most professional right now, man. Dogs, man, like, yo. And you, yo, the. Dogs, man. Like, yo. And you, yo. The verses, that verses. Dogs, I was right there for you, man.

I was like, yo, the dog got it. You got too many bangers. Nigga, we got the Queens Lounge, baby. It's Queens Lounge, baby. Come on, baby. Ladies, where you at? Ladies, where you at? It's Queens Lounge in the building. You know how we do it. Yo, John on, baby. Ladies, where you at? Queens, Queens, Queens. Ladies, where you at? It's Queens Lounge in the building.

You know how we do it. Yo, Ja, man. Yo, when my girl Jen, she told me I'm there for the series. Tell them where you be at, nigga. Yeah, nah, Lord Nez in the building, man. Lord Nez in the building, man. What up, Ja? What's popping, bro?

You know what's going on, man. You know what's going on, man. Yeah, yeah. Of course. He said that's the home front right there. That's the foundation. Ja, at home, man. You know what's at home, man. Of course. He said that's the home front right there. That's the foundation. John, chillin', man. Nah, yo, you chillin', man.

Mike early, yo, man. You see the guard, man. You see the guard, man. He came through. I love this moment, man. I put it together. I'm a big queen. I love this moment, man.

Can I meet him? Yo, big queen. And one from Dead Press. Word up, man. Good to meet you. Strong soldier, man. Absolutely. Yeah, good to meet you, Yo, big queen. And one from Dead Press. Good to meet you. Strong soldier, man. Good to meet you, King. Yeah, he paused me. Yo, whose phone is that?

It's mine. It's mine, it's mine, it's mine. I'm going to just say the honest thing real quick. So, and no. Nah, you high as hell. You paused your shit. You high as hell. You muted your shit. You high as hell. You muted your camera.

Now you're back. Oh, this is some big queen shit. Top Piper trying to call you. Oh, my God. That's some big queen shit. I ain't going to lie. We sell me. Shut up.

Last time I seen you, we was in IHOP and shit. I see you on Sunrise. I'll get you back later. Thank you, my brother. Thank you. Appreciate that. So, yo.

Appreciate that. That's a big one. On IHOP on Sunrise? Yes. Oh, my God. Because I didn't even Queens no more. It's Long Island, actually. You know what I'm saying?

But we, but exactly. You know, you know what it is. It's a lot. This moment of me. Uh-huh. Shout out to Fresno Star. He came to the RIP, my man Mustafa. You mightest moment of me. Uh-huh. Fredro, shout out to Fredro Starr. He came to the RIP, my man Mustafa. You might know him, Steve O'Bell.

He used to hold Steve O'Bell down and shit. Shout out to Steve. He passed away. We saw each other at his funeral when he came to my crib. Fredro came to the rest, coming from my house. So mom, she was like, yo, that's cute. She was like, boy, shit, all that. But anyway, son looked out and gave me a placement

on Onyx and the joint that just came out. I got three joints. And I gave you three. On the new Onyx project, baby. So full circle, my man Shy Skills. Know how I was doing them. I was doing them the records. And now brothers is showing me love.

He took me to Q-tip crib. Shout out to Tip. Yeah, Q-tip. I'm sitting there, man, humble, because they the giant giant they the big bro he's like nah nigga play some shit and the humble way but you play some shit i'm like word i'll play some shit and they can just start banging out start playing this bass and shit to the beat like bass lines and shit and i you know i mean i'll just take a disc so the smoking beast comes from my love now for the production and me and one at legacy at 420

Ironically, we came up with I did I brought it to pig and it turned into a movement where I'm this niggas Damn, and we took him. I want to be down and shout out to key and they just playing beats. He'll break you Oh, you're the one that um, he's a broken graffiti legend. He's a graffiti graph legend bro Like X-Men is um, Keo X-Men. He was all on the double R's. The R's. What train? You used to ride the E and the F and shit like that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. E and R. He was telling the R's up there. And the seven lines. Seven, no doubt. Oh, you used to walk up Junction. I used to go to school. I went to school at 125.

125. Woodside. Oh, so that was up there by Rope Development? Yeah, yeah. No, that's Woodside. It's Woodside. So, 46 and Bliss. So, I used to have to take. Development? Yeah, yeah. No, that's what side. It's what side. So 46 and Bliss. So I used to have to take...

Oh! Yeah, so I used to have to take the R to the 7. And I switched it to me. The R to the Jackson Heights. Jackson Heights, I had to switch over. And that's how I met Queensbridge. That was my brother, my brother. What's crazy is me and Capone

were supposed to meet each other anyway because Capone was in my same homeroom the year before. So it's like we were supposed to. But let me ask you a question, right? One of the biggest clothing lines in the world. I got my shit. Somebody passed me my bag, too. I got my shit, too.

You wear Supreme? No, no, no. I finished what you was going to say. Okay, well, one of the biggest clothing lines in the world is called Supreme. Yeah. Wow. I mean, we need a cut, by the way. There was a Supreme in Brooklyn.

Yeah, you need a cut. But me, oh, there, he got it. He on point. Just one, just one. There's a Supreme in Brooklyn, but, you know, for us, for us from Queens, we only know one Supreme. That's a fact. Right.

That's it. And I actually did great business with Supreme, but I've always wondered how the Supremes feel about Supreme. Because, like, right now, there's Virgil, God bless, rest in peace. Right. But there's there's um virgil god bless rest in peace right but there's a clothing line called iraq i r a k there's no way y'all ain't get that from the god i ain't get that from you yeah yeah yeah and when i know y'all got that from the god's funeral because we actually

saw them i actually saw the people that own IRA was it a one of one or was it a series did you see many things going in they all right and they kind of gave me like a regular five and I was just like So did you feel some type of way? What would have been extraordinary? My mom's September 19th. My mom's September 6th. Your mom's mother is the same. My pops was the 11th. September 19th. I come from 9-11.

Like, come on. Hold it up. Hold it up. Hold it up. Hold it up. Hold it up. Hold it up. Hold it up.

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Hold it up. Hold it up. Hold it up. Hold it up. Me. Okay, okay, yeah. Let everyone know, like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, that's what... Like, come on. Like, I'm trying to... Yeah, I'm glad you... Me and you is here, man. Yeah, because... Because you is here, man. Nah, he's absolutely right

with what he's saying. But listen, listen, listen. You know what I mean? At the end of the day, man... And we had talks about that, too. Exactly. But at the end of the day, man, you know what I mean?

There's a lot of that going on, man. We want to make sure that you're all right, man. You do your thing, man. You supreme, man. You supreme now, man. We're going to move this forward, man. You know, that's how we're going to do that, man. We ain't that you all right, man. You do your thing, man. You Supreme, man. You Supreme now, man. We're going to move this forward, man. You know, that's how we're going to do that, man.

We ain't beefing with them, man. They do what they do. They a skateboard shop, man. You know, they been doing what they do, man. No, but what N.O. was saying was they got the name from that, though. That's what N.O. was trying to say. They got the name from my pups. They have to.

I don't think so. Supreme is Supreme. They came out in 95, though is is is a very love your positivity No, no, no, no, no, Perez, man. Listen, I could never access none of the Supreme building. No, he's talking about the clothing brand. He's talking about the clothing brand. What I'm saying is the clothing,

the cultural influence. There's no way, there's no way. Like I said, like I said, the people from Iraq, I was playing around earlier, but I did meet them and I did realize that they did not acknowledge me at all, right?

So I imagine. But you're a cop running for over. So how did that deal happen? Yo, you know how many bootleg records I see of your shit? Of course. How many bootleg? No, but hold up. But how did that, like, if they didn't know about you guys,

how did that deal happen then? I don't know, but I know it was through Virgil. Oh, Virgil connected that. Yes, and Virgil was actually a cool dude to me. Like, I kid you not. Me and him, he was going to cool dude to me. I kid you not. Me and him, he was going to design my fucking wedding. I promise you. I have the pictures of it, me and

Fat Joe. Shout out to wifey. She doing the juice thing, right? She got the juice bar already. Yo, salute! You know what? You need to approach them regardless. You know, but regardless, I cannot lie You need to approach them regardless. And no one's got to connect me with them.

Regardless. And no one's got to connect me with them. I cannot lie to you. I cannot lie to you. Without thinking that they stole it, but going and getting something from it. I've been trying to get connected with them for three and a half, four years. I've been trying to. Because there's no way, shape, form, or fashion.

Well, we need to all galvanize. Like, we need to organize and get that. They wasn't aware of who Supreme was as they took that name. We need to tell them that their market share in hip-hop is because of that name. That's what has to happen. What's another skate?

What's another skate shop? My man Vinny. Vinny is down here too. Vision. Vision. Vision. Did they get Vision from the old comic book? I actually, no, no, I'm going to be honest.

I lean with him. I don't think they stole it outright, but their work in sharing hip-hop doesn't come without your name. I love that brand though, and it would be it would be so big for the culture for hip-hop we merged for everything for the world it would be big for everything right by the name I think frame deserves that I think

I just scored a skateboard movie, bro I'm taking a shot for that Listen, skateboard and hip-hop Is synonymous in my opinion Yo, man It's called Old Street Society Shout out Mark Gonzalez

When we talk about skateboarding Yeah, we talking about Harold Hunter and all that Yo, it's crazy, man Yes, thank you We doing it Yo, I just told you That's saddest Yo, I just told you That we might die I think. We're doing it. You know, that's for you. That's saddest to laugh at.

Yo, I just told the lab, we might die. I think Tyler was like, fuck all y'all right now. I'm just enjoying this. I just told the lab, we might die. Tyler was like, I was never doing this. I didn't even like that. Drink, Sam. Remember?

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It's our generation. It's all left up to us. Yes. Our generation, man. We got to get this shit right, man. We got to, yo, man. I love your positivity. Yo, because I know that's your thread, God.

I know that's your thread, God. I love it. I love positivity. You used to be, yo, and I wanted to tell you that, man. Dang, you used to be something, man. Yo, you was, you know, like many of us, man. You was an angry young man at one time, man. He was. You did not want to talk to anyone or anything.

I remember reaching out to you and being like, yo, and no, man, I'm glad you on the rise and shit. And you like, you know, like you said, there was that disconnect. You don't know how to speak to the OG. Yeah, I didn't know how to speak to the OG. We got to cut that, man. That's real. Yo, go run up on the OG, man. Guaranteed, that nigga going to love you, man. He going real. Go run up on the OG, man. Guaranteed,

that nigga going to love you, man. He going to talk to you and the whole shit, man. That's real. We doing that right now. That's for you, man. Exactly. And that's why we created

Drink Champs, to connect. To connect. That's real. All that shit that happened and all that shit, man, that's that old way of thinking that fucked up.

It's like New York and now, man, we puffing weed now in New York, publicly. In front of the police. Exactly. It's crazy, man. So it's like, we got to man Like we puffing weed Now in New York Publicly In front of the police Exactly It's crazy man

So it's like We gotta get with the new times And what's going on man Like it's so sad The past that we come from And we'll always Keep that in our hearts But moving forward man

We wanna fucking Move forward together man And fucking just Hit some fly niggas man For real man Hey look guys For real man I gotta go pick my kids up

from fucking school. Fatherhoods. Barber is real. I need to be on your podcast. He got the church. You haven't been on Fatherhoods? What? Come on, you family.

You got to be on Fatherhoods, man. I love you, my brother. And more, brother. And more, and more. Come through later tonight. We'll play you some music. Okay, please. Yeah, yeah.

That's my strategy. Yeah, yeah. What is it? Good dad games? Shout out to Static Select music. Okay, peace. Yeah, yeah. What is it? Good dad gang? Shout out to Static Selective. Terminology. Terminology. Terminology, bro.

Good dad gang. Thank you. Yo, we make a history of the city, bro. Peace. You already know. Master. This is crazy dope synergy that you got. This young man here, Prem, you got Ness here.

You got M1. Absolutely. And everybody connected before Drink Champs. Absolutely, absolutely. This is dope to see, man. It's dope to see y'all doing this. Nah, we good for life, dog.

Let me ask you, let the rhythm hit them. Yeah. Tell us about that. So I did the work, you know what I'm saying? I did the work, and at them times,

you know what I'm saying? It was my growing pains, you know what I'm saying? I did the work. And at them times, you know what I'm saying? You know, it was my growing pains. You know what I'm saying? I was in there. I was ambitious. You know, and now I learned that. You know what I'm saying? Like, I should have just stayed in my lane.

You know, at that time, I wanted to go to the highest heights. Them niggas was kings at the time, man. They was the highest, the top of the top at that time. And I'm in there. You know what I'm saying? I got my chest stuck out, you know what I mean? My chest stuck out. I know what I'm doing and shit.

I know what I know. And like, yo, nah, that shit right there. You know, I'm telling them that. Nah, that shit right there. You know, when they see it, and I was real bold with it. And I don't think they really agree with that style, you know what I mean? Because I was a true drink champ from the start. My moms, everybody, like, we drank coming up, you know what I mean? Because I was a true drink champ from the start. My mom, everybody

like, we drank coming up, you know what I mean? Like, I drew up with the fucking crabs on the terrace with the little nips of Miller and shit like that. So I'm a drink, when you talk about drink champs, I'm like, you know, I know all the beers, the big beer. I want you to relax right now. I don't want you to drink that much.

We could go through all of those, you know what I mean? Like, I know what it is. Harlem, I know what it is. You know what I mean? So that's what that was, you know? And I was coming in that light. And, you know, like, how I embraced a young bro right here. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I'm just telling him right now. Like, he a little angry about, like, yo, you know, I think Supreme, you know what I mean, need to do. And I'm like, yo. No, no, no, not angry. Passionate. Passionate.

Okay, that's peace. That's peace. That's peace. angry passionate passionate okay that's peace that's peace that's peace exactly it's not about who's took who's what let me say in better words he feel a way and aggressively go in and get that collaboration but but nah nah it ain't not aggressive in a bad way I'm just saying even that but it's more the fact how he feel about that shit like how he feel like damn he feel away about that shit Exactly. No me he feel away about that and that's and that's what we gotta get right. I don't mean you know about How do I clef get in a video for let the rhythm hit him? Mmm? He's in that video playing the bass Oh yeah He said that These two are some

Hip hop historians for real Absolute hip hop historians I love that shit He worked at the bookstore I worked at the bookstore Yeah come on You already know man Just throw him under the bookstore

I don't know I don't know man I don't know bro That should have been you I don't know I don't know I don't know That's when I was out

The folding shit They had the music already They was good And now Wyclef was dancing I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's when I was out to fold and shit. They had the music already. They was good. And now Wyclef was dancing. You know what I mean? We good. Holy shit. Nah, but yo, the let the rhythm hit them shit.

You know what I mean? Like, it was a learning experience for me. We went through a little fucking fiasco on the Source magazine. You know what I mean? I did the interview. You know what I mean? Niggas duped me. They was like, yo, it's going to be off the record,

you know what I mean? We talking off the record. And all the shit that I was saying to them quietly wound up on the record, and then it just caused, you know what I mean, like a little rave and shit. Because you was admitting that you produced the whole album, right?

Which was facts. It's facts. Which was facts. But in the process, you know, there's an industry thing that you do where you smooth things over. You buffer things and you do this.

Was there ever like problems with you and Eric B because of that? No, there was never a problem, Nick. There's this fucking myth out there about Eric B put his hands on me. Never that. Never that. Never that. E is the flyest nigga on earth,

man. That nigga's too cool to put his hands like, that nigga too cool to even give you a pound. He ain't gonna fucking put... Yo, E, man, that's a fly nigga and I was so fucking privileged to have seen them niggas and they fucking... Shout out to Eric B and Rock Kim.

That's another legendary inspiration to out to Eric B. and they just that's another and Rock Kim that's another legendary inspiration to me is Eric B. man I could never man I could never man you know what I'm saying I could never discount

that shit man the guards the guards the big bros the kings at that time let me in the building you know what I'm saying

I'm a you know glasses glasses ass nigga coming from Flushing, Queens he said glasses ass yeah coming from the wackest part of town Trying to rap with you, you know

I got everything against me Did you feel some kind of way with your glasses? Nah, nah, nah, nah, I didn't But that's how niggas see me That's real because one thing I said to you That's how they see me He did People's Party, we ain't put it out yet You ain't put it, I thought that was already out

With Large Professor? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I swear in my mind. I said for me coming in as a hip-hop person, not from the street side, to see this man with his afro, talking about,

yo, I got an afro, what I got done. He went straight with the afro. He went straight to the afro. He did. He had the afro glasses. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. And then he would be laughing.

It was tough. Go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead, nigga. Nah, yo, look.

Nah, nah. Yo, it was funny. It was funny. It was funny. You a bully. It was funny.

It was funny because, look, man, I took on a hard life. I didn't have to, but the way I was raised, I was raised with every, like how every one of us was with the fucking template. You got to get the, but the way I was raised, I was raised with how every one of us was, with the fucking template.

You got to get the house, the car, the kid, the money, the kid, the home, that type of shit. That's what everybody's raised, you know what I mean? So I was going for that shit and it was a little hard for me because I was like a hip-hop purist. So when I get into the industry and I seen the town full of weed that was going on

in the industry, I'm like, hold up, nah, up. That niggas faking the funk like oh no This is the guru hip-hop purism like we all follow you So now I'm starting to call that shit, you know me and now it's but on the outside to the younger to the young bros They like yo that thing is disgruntled like always complaining? Like, he always complaining about the industry and shit. Like, what's wrong with him and shit? Like, why the nigga was like, and then I had the mushroom cut with the mushroom hat with the crazy glasses.

Niggas was like, I'm getting far away from this nigga, man. Like, it's just what it was. It's just what it was. He was doing what everybody else wasn't doing. I love, but I want to write a song one day, and I want to write a song called Kid on the Cover. And I want to talk about who that kid was. You know what I mean?

Because I know who that was. You know what I mean? The resource cover? Yeah, who Lars Professor was at that time. You know, I know why Nas had to, you know what I mean? Kind of like, you know, because it was a different, I was on a different mission. You know what I mean?

Because at one point, that was the illest thing. At one point, you and Nas was like, motherfucking Quincy and Michael, baby. Yeah, Quincy and Michael. Oh, absolutely. And then it disappeared. What had happened at that time?

Was it Steve Stout? I'm asking. I had a different, I had a different, well, Steve, Steve, actually, one time, Steve came through and he was,

he came through for a Kid and Play remix that I did. So he used to manage Kid and Play. I want to hear this Kid and Play. Yeah, nah. I can't imagine. I feel the same as that kid. I cannot imagine. He just did it in my own time. I did Kid and Play before.

No, no, I know, but I want to hear this remix. But like Steve, Steve was down with like everybody in the Hearst early. Like he was down with the East Elmhurst community. Steve Stout really tried to look out for me. I was like too fucking dumb and too fucking young and too gangster to like actually appreciate. That's a fact. Steve is very opinionated in his ideas. Like every man I'm trying to do with me

But remember his interview He was very opinionated In what he thought was good and bad About me No in general But that's the whole shit that we need We need instead of the older bros Like saying oh that nigga man

I can't like I gotta get away from that Just explain. Like, yo, you doing it like... You said he was doing that? No, I'm saying this is what we needed at that time. Right. Need a documentary about you. No, we going to do that. Need a documentary.

Need a documentary. And a motherfucking movie and all that shit. Can I ask a question to everybody here? This is what I think. Let's get this started. If you could put the golden era in an asterisk, right? In a what? In an asterisk.

In a what? Parentheses. Asterisk. Asterisk. Whatever. I don't know if I speak the right language. I speak in the Spanish. The golden era as an asterisk.

That's not fair to me. All right, Cole. That's not fair to me. So let's just say you put the golden arrow in that, right? I believe, in my opinion, main source is the beginning of that. Main source is the beginning of what? Of the golden arrow.

No, no, no, no. Jungle Brothers and all of them, bro. Hold up. I'm not asking you. I'm asking everybody else. You're not, you're not, I'm not asking you. I want to, I want to,

I want to help with the facts. What year did Breaking Adams come out? Breaking Adams. I think it's 92, right? 91.

91, there you go. Okay, 91. that's all we did was born knowledge. Give me a shout out to Dante Ross.

What do you think? What do you think? Oh, shout out to Dante Ross. Why we shouting Dante out? Damn, really?

You don't want to shout him out? He ain't humble no more. He used to be at the last quarter with fucking with Paradise Gray and all of them. And from what I did,

my research, that started the golden era. The Latin Quarter is because... So does that include what I'm saying or no? Well, everyone has a different golden era. Well, remember...

You got a different golden era. He got a different golden era. I'm only speaking musically because remember, I'm not in New York. This is why I asked about the year. Well, shout out to the beautiful conversation, by the remember, I'm not in New York. This is why I asked about the year. Well, shout out to our team. This is a beautiful conversation, by the way.

I'm not talking about music. No, no, but I'm going to tell you what I'm saying. You can go to El Antinio or Fabia. I get it. Is it El Antinio or Fabia? He was talking about the acts. That was a cheap act. Okay, I'll be right back.

We're in Nubian. Right. Peace call. Peace call. Keep it going. Peace call. I replied to two thousand and five. So, this is what you call it? This is what I asked about the year. Okay, right My theory is that the

Error that we but sorry sorry. Do you believe in the golden era like that that eggs? Yeah, I do, but it's subjective. It's subjective for region. It's subjective for where you're born at, what year you're born in. So what's your 10-year golden era time frame? Well, for me, golden era starts... For me, it's 1988. To 98? I'm just saying 88, period.

I'm saying all the albums that came out in 88 are the albums that define out in 88 Are the albums That define For me For my era What a hip hop record Is supposed to sound Yeah

Cause it was like Samples Like everything No no Not just samples And it's lyricism And it's lyricism It's EPMD

Rockin It's all that All that lyricism It starts there And But and is NWA And is Jazzy Jeff And the Fresh Prince Absolutely Absolutely NWA Yeah Oh my god All that lyricism starts there. But and it's N.W.A. And it's Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince. Absolutely.

It's N.W.A. Yeah. Oh, my God. You know what I'm saying? But you know what's funny? In my opinion, that is the predecessor to the Golden Era, in my opinion. I do have this. You did mention this.

Yeah. What's that right there? What's that right there? Oh, from the J.I.T. What's that? Now, that's your lineage. What's that right there? What's that right there? Oh, that's your lineage. That's, you actually need

to listen to this because you the hustler lineage. He talking a lot of, you know, chilling on the sofa with my dollar sign sweater. He said that on this,

you know what I mean? Like, yo, he said a lot of fly, he got a joint called I'm fly on this. And the rap lineage is G-Rap,

G-Rap, and Prestige Big Pun. I guarantee you, Pops, you see, because when G-Rap, Curtis Ball, what year Curtis Ball came out?

G-Rap and Big Pun, and then if you listen to Black Thought, Black Thought is G-Rap and Big Daddy Kane mixed together on some Philly shit. Listen, Black Thought is one of the illest MCs to ever live. To ever live.

Oh, man. I don't think he gets enough credit that he needs. We brought him to the staircase, man. We brought him to the staircase. I think Black Thought is ill. I don't want to know what the staircase is. No, no, no. We didn't say Pebble Beach. It don't, no. We didn't say Pebble Beach.

It don't sound good. We didn't say Pebble Beach. I know what Pebble Beach is. We said the staircase. That's where niggas sit there and they listen to music. That's where we listen to our music. In a staircase by yourself? In a staircase.

No, not by ourselves. With many of us. There will be many of us, brother. And we will have 40s. One of us equals many of us. And see, and call out towers. It's a dark staircase. No, not at brother. And we will have 40. One of us equals many of us. And see, in Carlisle Tower. It's a dark staircase. No, not at all.

And we're just there. It's well lit. And the staircases. The fact that you had to say it's well lit. The staircases are wide in Carlisle. So we could accommodate many. Yes. So many have came through to our.

Yeah, man. It's really nice, man. And we sitting in there. And the shit is echoing Off the walls We being there Playing Mary J. Blige You're bringing back That feeling

Playing blends All that shit No cause that's Like my man Late for dinner That's where they at Like my man Late for dinner

He'll pull out The motherfucking generator And the turntables I met him In the BX Like the rabbi Rabbi Darkseid Big up him man

He's a very Very Very Rabbi Darkseid Rabbi Darkseid, big up him, man. He's a very, very, very instrumental. Rabbi Darkseid? Yeah, Rabbi Darkseid. Yes, sir. No doubt. I feel like it's the first time a rabbi. It's a hip-hop rabbi?

Yeah. Yo, what's up, Randy? Listen, I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to tell you this. And he's a Sith Lord? No. No, but listen. No, no, no.

I'll tell you this. Rabbi, I was just building with him. He's like, yo, I just ran this tell you this. And he's a Sith Lord? No. No, but listen. No, no, no. I'll tell you this. Rabbi, I was just building with him. He's like, yo, I just ran this marathon real quick. I'm about to run this. So we're just going to leave that right there. You know what I'm saying? That's the rabbi. Yeah, that's the rabbi.

So he sent late. He was like, yo, go up to the BX and see Lars Professor. And late, you know, he came through. He had his girl with him. And he's like, yo, what up, man? Yo, the rabbi sent me. And so boom. He was like, yo, I'm going to go to the amphitheater I'm going to bring the turntables

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So that's where we at with the youngins right now. Like they've a lot. Man, I need one of those. Is this mine? The drink champs? No, we see you everything. I need the hoodie. We see you everything. I got you, bro. I got you. I this mine? The drink champs? I need the hoodie. I need the hoodie. We see you every day.

I got you, bro. I got you. I just gave you the t-shirt right now. Where's the drink champs? Where's the drink champs? Where's the drink champs? Like, where is it? We got the drink champs.

I got you. Let me just say you something, Lars, bro. I got you. I got you. You are the quintessential guest that we want to have. Absolutely. You are a super legend. He was like, yo, a million times.

Not a few times. A million times. Let me few times, a million times. Let me finish. Let me give you a flash, bro. In a lot of ways, Marley Mar, large pro. If it's no Marley Mar and there's no large pro, there's no drink champs. There's no Tyler Qualley. That's a ball.

You want me to break it down for you? That's a ball. No, I mean, we could go through all the branches. Let me give you a bunch of branches. You're supposed to break it down for you? That's a ball. No, I mean, we could go through all the branches. Let me break it. Let me give you a bunch of branches. You're supposed to say yes. He's being humble again. But let me just break it down for you. Get you a long way.

Let me break it down for you. You with your connection to Nas. Nas with his connection to Akineli. Akineli with his connection to me. If it wasn't for you, A lot of fly niggas. A lot of fly niggas. I can never leave this connection to me. If it wasn't for you, there might not be a N-O-R-E. That's real. Because of you.

I mean, you know, I did good in school, man. I did good in school, man. We done took all the air out of this shit. Yeah, nah. If it wasn't for you, there might not be a N-R-E, there might not be

a CNN, there might not be a R-D. We did the Octoors, man. Remember y'all used to come pick me up, man. Yes, yes. But let me give you

your flowers, bro. Four, two, three, four, five coming soon, man. Listen, no. I'll be back, man. Hell yeah, you're welcome anytime.

You're going to get your flowers, you're going to get your props today. I appreciate you, bro. I'll be back, man. Hell yeah, you're welcome anytime. You're going to get your flowers, you're going to get your props today. I appreciate you, bro. Right now. That's my Corona brother, man. You are really, you are really...

Your props was on the wall, dog. It still is on the wall. I don't know what's about you today. What's about you today? Let me just tell you something, Lars, bro. Because my pops used to chill in the left rack too

with the brothers from... Yeah, but let me get you your props. Let me get you your props. You see this brother right here? That's Young Bro. You see this brother right here? You see this brother right here? That's Young Bro.

You see M1? We are all here to salute you. That's a fact. Yeah, man. We not here to... We not here... Although everyone loves Japanese whiskey. Yes, yes.

We're here for that as well. I'm with Stuart. Yo, I saw your hot ones. I saw your hot whiskey, yes. Yes, we're here for that as well. I whipped it. Yo, I saw your hot ones. I saw your hot ones, bro. He's going back. He's taking it back. You want to talk about Drew? Yeah, he wanted to talk about Drew.

You finished your hot ones. That was like 15 years ago. Let me tell you something. I got to give you flowers. You got to embrace it because I see you deflecting. That's what you're doing. You're deflecting because you're humble. You done learned all these terms.

That's a great observation. You learned all these terms. You spelled deflecting, and it was good. What a left right dude talking about deflecting, man. No, no, no. Come on. Yo, Lars, bro, please, bro. Accept the flowers.

You know what I can do? I can give you your flowers. I can give you your props. I can give you your props. I can give you your praises because I'm being honest, Lars, bro. You deserve it. No, no, no. Just accept it.

Just accept it. Just because you know why I'm... I wish we could have talked about India more. No, no. You know my sister. Great, great. God bless her. I'll tell you about my partner.

No, no, no. Take your fucking flowers. Please. Calm down. Calm down. No, no, no. Take your fucking flowers. Please. Calm down. Calm down. Listen, listen, listen. Larsbro, Larsbro. Listen.

Larsbro, Larsbro. Listen. No, I'm not angry. Don't be racist. I am. Listen, Larsbro. You are a god. You are a legend.

You are an icon. You deserve everything that we are talking to you about right now. Bad. Bad. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me take it away from you because you're going to be used to a Queens guy giving you Queens love. This is a Miami guy, a Latino. I'm just a hip-hop head.

Yes. And you are a legend. Hold on. Did you use to break? I tried. I tried. Did you use to break? I tried. I tried. Did you use to pop? I popped.

I locked. I graffitied. I did everything. I did everything. I just, I was everything. That's all I need to know. And,

and, he only plays vinyl. He only plays vinyl. We love you, dog. Yes. You mean everything to us. Yes. I love you all too, man.

You mean everything to us. You know that. Honestly, honestly, honestly. You are legacy. You know I love you, bro. You are legacy in hip-hop that means so much to us I love y'all too man You know that Honestly You are legacy You are legacy in hip hop That means so much to us You know that In Spanish we call We say

Hoyete Hoyete It's oyete But I don't know Hey Hey we got The blinglish He's boring

The blinglish But no Lars Pro Pro, man. I'm being honest, man. I love you, man. No, no, no. Let me give it to you. Let me tell you something. Section 2 ass.

I love Lars Pro's deflecting game. Are you 17 now? You going to take the train next week? You going to take the bus next year? Because I know how humble you are. And that makes you even more of a better person. But I wanted to tell you

you are really a legend. You are really an icon. You are really... When we based this show, we said we wanted to give flowers to the people that matter. That matter to us. That matter to real hip-hop. And I'm going to the people that matter. That matter to us. That matter to real hip-hop.

And I'm going to be honest with you. You was top five of our first guests. Absolutely. We never did it. And the fact that I had your phone number and I didn't want to take advantage because I was texting you and you was like, yeah, maybe.

But you know how you text. Yeah. Great day, Great weather outside Isn't it I say Damn You know He had a lot of trauma

I said damn It was a good day Yeah yeah yeah That's the way it is I'm like I'm like Young bro Young bro had a lot of trauma

And now he's on the Love side of life He's on the love side now He's on the love side now. He's on the love side. Let's take a little break. I love it. I love it. I love it.

I love it. No, but, Lars, bro, I'm going to be honest with you, bro. No, in all seriousness. We come from some shit, man. Yeah, yeah. But in all seriousness, you are really a legend, bro. No, no, no, no. Lars.

No, no, Lars. Lars, Lars. Yo, not for nothing. Hold on, hold on. Not for nothing. Shout out to Nightwilly. Shout out to Jasmine. Shout out to the people's heart.

Yo, the podcast is amazing. We love your podcast. Thank you. We're not complaining to you. We love you guys. This is my cousin podcast. His son is crazy. My son and my daughter and everything.

But like Nori said, we're giving you your flowers. The other day, man. Please stop deflecting because you know why Lars, bro. Man, let me just tell you something. Listen, no, real talk. You're deflected.com. I don't want him to get old. That's my oldest boy.

This nigga trying to make himself old out here. Trying to fucking be the people's but you know what I mean? I'm like, yo, young bro, come on, man. Get out of here, man. Don't take on that whole

he taking on the whole shit over there. But Lars, bro, this is all beautiful. But in case you don't know, Lars, bro, this is your episode. We all love each other.

We are here for you. Yes. We are here for you. Yes. We are here for you. You deserve your flowers. Lars Pro, look, look. You deserve your flowers. You are. Look at through his eyes, Lumen.

Yes, yes. Look at his eyes. He's smiling right now. He's smiling. Yo, that's the Joe Yashimito joint. Yo. Look at to my eyes. Look at to his eyes, Lumen.

What do you see? What do you see? He's sampling you right now. He's sampled your eyeballs. Yo, Yama. He about to make a big fireball. If I can pull up the facts, I can pull up the facts. We'll pull it up later.

But yo, it's an episode. He got a vinyl with eyeballs. Somebody drag it. It's too much. It's too much. You got to relax, y'all. Listen, listen, listen. Look at Tala.

Large bro, man. Large bro. All of us, like Tala just said. I want to hear what Talib he said cuz I said I wouldn't be here without you and the Talib said you wouldn't be here without him so can you explain you got a queen's hat on to bro, we need you to relax. Now, just, you know, main source and the work that, when Large Professor went from, well, first of all,

when we dropped that Large Professor record before the main source record came out, and then when he went on to do what he did with Tribe Called Quest, and he went on to do what he did with Nas, later on with Stay Chiseled and all that type of shit. You know what I'm saying? Lars Professor is the purest of the pure.

He is the foundation of it. You see what I'm saying, man? Somebody's snoring back here, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. Let's wrap this shit up, man. You know what I mean. Let's get back to DJ Khaled, man. Let's wrap this shit up, man. You know what I mean. Let's get back to DJ Khaled, man.

Let's get back to DJ Khaled. I think you define boom bap. I think you are the... I think nobody... Oh, no. I'm the boom bap-iest. I'm the boom bap-iest. I am boom bap.

After P-Rock. After P-Rock, I'm the boom bap. No, after P-Rock and P-Rip, for me, I'm the boom bap. I think it's you. Staying at that. But then what about the Bomb Squad? I think it's you now. You want to interview the Bomb what about the Bomb Squad? I think it's you now.

You want to interview the Bomb Squad? The Bomb Squad? Get Keith in them now. Absolutely. Absolutely. Public Enemy, right? Bomb Squad? No, no, no.

Yeah, yeah. The ones that did the album. The Ice Cube album, right? Yeah. Eric Vietnam's album? Hell yeah. Hank and Keith. And humbly, you got to get my man Ayatollah too.

Humbly. I want to mention him because that's your lineage, brother. Yes, yes, yes. So these are people also that I would love to see on Drink Champs, man. Humbly, man. I would love to. I definitely love your platform. Yes, thank you.

You know, because honestly, you need to get the flowers, man. I get my flowers daily, man, for my peoples, man. And I love that you have given me my flowers also. But you, bro, because you came up doing some shit, man. Thank you for the flowers, bro. And I love that you've given me, you have given me my flowers also, but you, bro, because you came up doing some shit, man, for real. And I know it for a fact. Thank you, bud.

I know for a fact. I know, bud, man. Today is your, it's your, it's not your, it's though. No, no. It's though.

But today, you know what today is? I'm officially calling today, what is it? March 17th is Lars Professor Day. Oh, now it's it? March 17th is Lars Professor. Oh, knowledge gone?

Hey! Oh, knowledge gone. The power of knowledge gone? Oh, man. That's today's map. The power of knowledge gone. Knowledge gone or be involved, be destroyed. There we go.

Oh, you think I don't know my map? You know, my app was Prince Infinite Lover Law. You look like a lover. Because Talib told me you never left the relationship and looking at the front door. No, she just hit me. She just hit me. I'm sorry.

Yeah, you got to relax, Alvin. She just hit me for my birthday. Who, the girl? The girl that you were talking about on the record? No, no, no. Not that I was talking about that. I was around at that time. And she just hit me

for my birthday. Everything's so good. She has her family. You know, she was from Lefrak. Her name is Sakima. Like, she was beautiful. Are you saying

it's not the girl, but it's the girl? It's beautiful. Exactly. We know that for a fact. We come from... This is what I'm saying. It's a problem.

It's a problem. It's a problem. It was a problem for us because of what we came for. What are we talking about, guys? What are we talking about? The Queen's Lounge. We're talking about the Queen's Lounge. Oh, okay.

Let's go. Where we came from. It was just like, it was just like two, like Queens, Eddie Murphy, how he said it. That's how it was. And Left Rack, that's how it was. And Flushing, that's how it was. Yes. You have the most beautiful woman in the world,. Like, and if a female got with you,

she had to, like, she had to. She chose you. No, she had to, like, deal with that, that you knew many, many beautiful women. Oh, she, but let me ask you, though. She knew that, like, she knew, like, that you hang around many. No, we, we, we just.

You guys are wild right now, bro. We had, we went different ways because she- Shalim said you never left. No, no, she- He said you didn't look at the front door? No woman ever leaves me. He was trying to work it out. Oh, wait, wait.

He said no woman ever leaves you. Only one woman left me. I don't want to say that. I don't want to say that. Not for me. You're from Lost Boys. But my son- Rene, it's about you.

My son. I love my son. You know what I mean? But only son I love my son You know what I mean But only one woman left me You know what I mean And other than that Nah no woman leaves me Man they rock with me Because I rock

He was itching the jet though He was itching But you looked at the front door But you never walked through He said no I'm going to stay here I had a terrace in my crib So we had a front door And a back door Which, but you looked at the front door, but you never walked through it. He said, no, I'm going to stay here. I had a terrace in my crib, so we had a front door and a back door. Which door were you looking at?

Hey, look, my pops used to smoke his weed before he went to the hospital. He used to do his job 5 o'clock in the morning, man. I wrote my name on the wall, man. He was like, Lars Pro, man, you got some big shoes to fill, man. And went to work. You know what I mean? He used to hang out with Wwise. He used to hang out with all of them, man

For lunch Uncle Wwise? Yeah, hell yeah, man My pops, yeah My pops used to hang out with Moose From the bridge and all of them Moose, um Moose, yeah

Big Moose, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah Big Moose, yeah That's my pops They used to work at the hospital LES used to work with my pops at the hospital Yo, he's Queens for real Nah, he's a lie

He is Queens for real I feel like I've been immersed in his pops I mean, this whole episode I thought Mr. Cheeks was hospital. Yo, he's Queens for real. Nah, he's a lot. He's Queens for real. I feel like his pops, his pops in this whole episode. I thought Mr. Cheeks was Queens. His pops, he only killed me. He's super, he's super Q you.

But his pops in them used to rock to the front door. They used to talk about Johnny Wishbone. They used to rock the front door whole body. They love that shit. I'll tell you one time.

I don't know, I don't know if we're going to use this but I'm going to say it I'm on the van with your pop see me and he pulled me over like the police

swear to God this is a cream you got to pull over you can't keep going creams that you pull over yeah yeah it's family but he like yo

He look at me and he says I'm not I think I'm Nori But I'm like becoming who I am You're not yet Nori And to cut your whiz for a second Yo Dawgs Yo you was ringing so crazy in Jamaica

Dawgs I went to this barbecue Dawgs Dawgs Dawgs Stop so crazy in Jamaica. Dogs. I went to this barbecue. Dogs. Dogs. Dogs. Stop. That fucking album was ringing so hard. What?

Oh, my God. I went to this barbecue one time. I was lit. I was over there on 119 America. America shit. Yo, I love it.

That's Jamaica Queens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just flip it. You giving him his flowers? I had to do it. I had to. He self that's where not I think not what you want to do one time with nature and all the shit down in the basement that's that type of shit so I was over there but then I went to this home this barbecue and watched it watch there so I'm moving rush to only shit but it was in'm over in Rochdale and shit,

but it was in the outskirts, the houses and shit, going back down towards Baisley. For you to know what I'm talking about. The little houses in between the shit, between Baisley and Rochdale. So I'm in the backyard and shit, and I'm lit and shit. I had to whip outside and shit.

I was chilling and shit. My man's with me. And I fucking What what what Yo dogs It was the It was the height of summer Yes it was

It was the height of summer I'm going to take my flowers Dogs If you want to give it to me That's what I want to do Give me my flowers That's what I want to do man I want to

But you just said Adolph was I told him So I got to I got to kind but you just said Adolph was A.I.A.T.O.L.E. I got to kind of hold that down a little bit. I mean, I'm going to still hold off. I'm going to research on that. I'm going to tell you. In the Q.U. Let me finish the story.

Yeah, with him. So I'm on the Van Wick. I'm driving. Obviously, I've always been a horrible driver. Nick Adolf crazy. The brain sees me, and he goes like this. So I'm like, oh, OK. Fuck.

Because it's kind of like the police. It's like, you can't say no to the police. You're a street police. I'm a street dude. How'd you know driving? Did you know what was preem from the start? Green eyes, brother. Oh, you do?

Them shits lit the fuck up. But how did you know you were getting pulled over? Because my father has green eyes. How'd you know you needed to pull over? That was Big Vic? Yes, my father, Mambo. Mambo. So he used to go like this, boom.

So I pull over. I'm nervous as shit. That's Preem, what the fuck's Preem pulling you fucking over for? And we on the Van Wick. And this is like, so I- What exit? Yo, is that- This is at the Forest Hills.

This is at the- Oh, okay, y'all in that area. Right before Kew Gardens. Right before you get to Kew Gardens. Oh, so you're on Trump and Trump area. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and stuff like that, and shit like that. Crazy. We here, we here, we here.

Exactly. We here, we here, we here. We know you already know. So, your man, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know and Trump every year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And shit like that. All right, go ahead. We here. We here. We here. We here. We here. We here. We here.

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We here. We here. We here. We here. We here. We here. We here. We here. We here. We here. And I was like, as a rapper? Yeah. Like, he's saying, don't show me as a rapper. He's like, I'm still in the field. When you shy me out, you kind of tell him all that. Oh, that's great. You dry snitching. Where did you shout him out at prior to that?

It was on mixtapes. It was on, like, you know. Oh, that's L. He's like, yo, son. Please, please, please, please. Like, I'm trying to be a little low key. Right, right, right, right, right. What was the demeanor?

And you have all due respect for that. You were like, yo, cream, I didn't know. Yeah, yeah, no, I didn't know. Like, I was just like, oh, please. I'm trying to be a little low key. Right, right, right, right, right. What was the demeanor? And you have all due respect for that. You were like, yo, Cream, I didn't know. I didn't know. I was just like, oh, fly guy shit. I was like, just come from Queens. You was just fly guy shit. Yeah, fly guy shit. We talking fly guy shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fly shit. You know what I'm saying? Supreme Queens. That's even rhymes together. That's a fact. And he like, but I didn't understand behind you. I'm 18 to 21.

I'm 18 to 21, so I didn't really, like, at that time, I didn't understand behind you I'm 18 to 21 I'm 18 to 21 so I didn't really like at that time I didn't understand you were stoned in them days bro I was like what

you were stoned cause I'm big in him cause you doing that as homage as homage and and the yande is like nah

what'd you say what'd you say back well he's explaining like cause he broke it down like it's just me and him on the highway.

There's no microphone, so he's comfortable. Like, it's like just me and him. And we're on. It's all you hear. We're in a van. Wick, my dude. We're in the side. And he's like, nah, because, you know, I'm still outside.

That was a good sound effect, man. Yo, you just took me to the side of the road. Yo, I'm outside right now. It's cold He like Without saying it, he like, yo, I'm still outside So, you know, when y'all shot me out Y'all kind of like

Put me in a position So I said, you know what I absolutely, one man Did not know that And then I had a person that was with me named Bodyguard Oh, Body me named Bodyguard. Oh, Bodyguard. You know Bodyguard?

Of course, of course. And Bodyguard was Cream's homie back in the... So Bodyguard jumps out and Cream is like, you got... He says his real name. I don't want to say his real name. But he goes, you got him with you? He's like, you're supposed to know. And then Body's like, you know what?

He'll never shout you out again. You know? And then Cream's like, you're supposed to know. And then Bobby's like, you know what? He'll never shout you out again. You know? And then, like, yo, it's all up. It's all up. And then a certain song came out after that, which I don't want to speak about. Exactly. Right, right, right. Thank you, brother.

Thank you, brother. I had to know that he warned everybody from the borough. He had warned everybody from the borough like yo watch because I'm and I got to say as a kid I don't want to say I felt threatened but I felt. You knew better. But I felt like I knew better afterwards. Like afterwards because he did not you know what I mean? All he was saying was, I'm still outside. Yeah, that was my special request.

So when you do that, and that was it. But that was respectful, you know what I'm saying? And I'll give you another story about your pops. Well, I met some niggas from the group home, right? When I went to the group home in Brooklyn, I was in Pius XII off 6th Avenue and shit. God damn it. You was in the group home.

Exactly. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So I met some niggas from Baseline and shit. My man Corey and my man Black. Black was actually, I think, Prince's little brother, something like that. His real name was Rob. Nah, that's not his little brother.

All right, so I don't know who he was was but he was definitely down with them and shit and they used to tell me stories of cat and preem and um and then with eric being on my shit when i when i was doing the uh let the rhythm hit him joint you know they had their basketball squad and so they had played basely and so me and fader was out there. Rakim was playing. Plus it against Bazley? No, it was Peyton Full against Supreme Team.

And I was out there. That's tough. Word. Yeah, the Snip tournament. Out there in Bazley and shit. I was out there and shit. Word. Rakim was playing

the whole shit. And that's the shit that I love. That's the shit that I love when niggas just standing out there. It's like, yo, that's him. He's in the hood. shit that I love. That's the shit that I love when niggas just standing out there. It's like, yo, that's him. He's in the hood. Shit is all love.

And we going at it, whatever it is. If niggas doing pull-ups, niggas doing, you know what I mean? I'll give you two more stories about your pops. You know, I don't know if y'all know. I don't know if anybody know. I went to church in Baisley.

That's where I went to church. Yo, I was baptized in East New York. Damn. I was baptized in East New York. You win. That's drink chance shit right there. That's drink chance facts. My church that I used to

go to is in Baisley. So, one year, I swear to God. I've never said this story before in my life. So, one year, I swear to God, I've never said this story before in my life. Drink Chance Exclusive. Exclusive. Alpo and Rich Porter.

Which I don't understand is, and I don't know if this correlates, I don't know if your father might call and say, no, no, he's bugging. But, Griselda Blanco came to Queens. And we got that connected as well. And when she came to Queens, Queens niggas did not go uptown again.

Queens niggas stayed in Queens because she was from Jackson Heights and she was selling pies. Ooh. This is documented. Like 82nd Street, right? Some shit like that. I thought it was 74th. Mind you, her son is our friend. Her son is our friend. We know him.

Right now. Today. Three of them niggas, in my opinion, I was another young nigga, so I could look at this room. They had all the coke in New York City. I'm just being honest. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Oh, my God. Right through Jackson Heights.

Q U. That's large, bro. And this is the first time. If you look at paid in full, what did I say in paid in full? I say, this nigga's a cute nigga. He was riding, bopping, release. You know where I saw that at? In 40 projects.

40 piece. Rich and Poe, I was like 11 years old, and I seen Rich and Poe coming to see you off box. Wow. I apologize. That's crazy.

Because they had nothing uptown. Yeah. We had it all in Queens. Yeah. This is when Gazelle DeBlanco came. I didn't know that that correlated until later. I watched Cocaine Cowboys

and I was like, oh my God. I mean, all that and she ends up making sense. The shit makes sense, yes. Everything. Kendall makes sense to us after Cocaine Cowboys.

And that's the first time. So when you see me describing Pain and Fall and I say, the nigga that's popping realies, that was actually in 40 projects.

It might have been in Basie. It could have been both. Because I was with my Uncle Wives. My Uncle Wives was prime little homie. Shut up. Uncle Wives, man. I love Uncle Wives. I love Uncle Wives.

He's such a great guy. Not Uncle Wives from Left Crack. Uncle Wives. Uncle Wives. You know I got a cousin named Wives. Prince's brother's name is Wives, too. Right, right, right. That's right right right right so that's how i knew you yeah yeah yeah whole fair all right that that's that's that's one story i got another one you can tell me off camera yeah no no i got one more i got one more i forget what the it

but um that was the first time i realized what Queens was. Mm-hmm. Like, because... The Q Burrow. Here goes the biggest drug dealers. And they came to Queens and they had fun. Right. Like, premium niggas showed them niggas fun. The Q Burrow. It was like, yo, go ahead.

Go ahead. Go pop your willies, whatever. And 40 and basically whatever it was. Oh, no, we was all about niggas being fly. Yeah. You hear the stories about Cat having the whip and being like, yo, you know what? Like, yo, you look better than that shit.

Yo, take that shit. Like, we was all about, and that's the thing that I tapped into. Like, I love that part of it. Like, niggas getting fresh. Like, I love that scene of them brothers and crystals on the stage with Melly Mel and them, and they pop, and they got the bottle.

Oh, you saw that documentary? I love that scene, man. No, I felt like he lived it. I love that scene. brothers and crystals on the stage with Melly Mel and them and they pop and they got the bottle you saw that scene man I felt like he lived it I love that scene no I want to relive that scene them up, they like, yo, nah, these boys is getting money. These boys is... The spring team threw the party. I don't know if you've seen it. It was Prince's birthday party. It was Prince's birthday party. So that scene, man, I got this music in my mind

that I will put to that scene and I swear it's the most euphoric like hip-hop shit right there. Them with that money and them bottles and all that. Motherfucker. They had the shit shining. The white suits on with the red silk.

Heavy shit on. The heavy shit on. Fresh cuts. I've never been more proud to be from Queens. Yo, dawgs, man. When I see that shit, oh my god. I know y'all broken niggas out here. We having a sentimental Queensland.

Yo, dawgs, man. Listen, when you look at that footage, and you realize that LL Cool J is in the fucking crowd as a little homie. That's a fact. As a little homie. Like, yo, I got to get heavy. He's sitting there.

And by the way, this is LL's story. So LL said, I'm here with Supreme Team. Like, I couldn't get in here unless I was with Supreme Team. But I couldn't get on stage because I wasn't that big. Right. He stayed in his lane. And that's why I want to. LL said he can't get to the stage.

I want to swing it back. I want to swing it back to the Eric B and Rakim shit. Yes, please. Pick up the Eric B and Rakim. Exactly. Like, yo, all right, I got good beats. But Pick up the Eric B and Rakim. Exactly. If I were to, like, yo, all right, I got good beats, but I'm going to stay in my lane.

Right. And not, you know what I mean? Because that's what L did. He was like, yo, I'm going to stay in my lane. And so, you know, that's what I, you know, I know no one is half the battle and shit. You know what I mean? Worried up.

Like Rakim would say, worried up. Now, Queen's history, man. That's dope, though. Nah, nah, that was... But we still paved the lane. We still paved the lane, you know, through the hardships and the bullshit and all that. You're the best borough.

I ain't going to lie. Oh, yeah, we are. Queens the best borough. Yeah, we are. If we got to jump to our level, it's okay right now. Hey, man, you know, I mean, I have certain confidence. Hold on. My annual defense.

And I'm going to jump in time. And he's been. He's met that right now. Yo, Dawgs, and I'm born in Harlem. And I'm born in Harlem. And I can honestly say, nah, Queens. That says a lot. Queens is the borough.

And I'm born in Harlem. And I have so much Harlem pride. Because all that fly shit, all that instinct that I got with them records, a lot. Queens is the borough. I'm born in Harlem and I have so much Harlem pride. All that fly shit, all that instinct that I got with them records, that's Harlem shit. That ain't Queens shit, that's Harlem shit. By the way, this is not a Met set, this is a New York... That's Met set.

New York Cubits? New York Cubits? That's crazy. New York Cubits is crazy. He used to work at the bookstore, bro. He used to work at the bookstore. What bookstore you used to work at, Tyler? I worked at a Kiru Books.

Barnes and Noble? I worked at a Kiru Books in Brooklyn. The guy said Barnes and Noble. Barnes and Noble. Me and Yassin Bey actually bought in Kiru Books. Right. After we worked there. And we couldn't.

Bookstore business is hard business. So we couldn't keep it open. But I do sell books on my website, qualityclub.com. Oh, you had your own bookstore at that time? I did. Yeah, dope. Before when we,

Blackstar money, our advance money for Blackstar, we bought the bookstore because the bookstore was going to go up. Wow, that's dope. And so now I still have, if you go on qualityclub.com. That boy been enterprising from the start.

We bought it together. He been enterprising from the start. He been enterprising from the start, man. And I got so inspired when he reached out to me because that's all it take. You know, young bros out there, man. Just so, yo, if you,

you know, just reach out. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to be honest. He reached out, man. And I was like, yo, man, you crazy, man. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to Madlyn.

I'm going to get Madlyn. The mystery. Because Madlyn said, Madlyn, I got the Liberation t-shirt, right? See, this, yeah, yeah. Shout out to Madlib. I'm near 40 cent again, Madlib. The mystery. Because Madlib said, Madlib, Madlib. I got the Liberation t-shirt, right? See this t-shirt with a camera. Is that the project? Right here, right here. Liberation is me and Madlib.

Yo, they got hype. Yo, that Styles P and Tommy and shit. Yo, that shit with you on the line, stick. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Me and Styles P got an album. Yo, dawg, That album is so fucking fire That record of that

She was talking about Ain't on it No no no no It's what you and Jada Oh no that's the hot tech joint New York New York Brother On the Styles P

9.5 Right Nico is Who I brought on the show Styles P Jada Kiss Chic Lou Exactly

Produced by Marco Polo Exactly Let him recollect I'm on the show Stiles P, Jadakiss, Sheik Luz. Exactly. Produced by Marco Polo. Exactly. Yeah. Let him recollect. Yeah. My mind is sharp. Tell them to stop here. Work him, bro. I'm talking to you like the gods right now.

You know what I'm saying? I was enlightened by the god, Baal Kim, the most peaceful god. God, Baal Kim. You know what I'm saying? He was peaceful, man. It wasn't all that bullshit, man. Baal Kim was peaceful, man. Baal Kim from Greensbridge?

Nah, nah, nah. Baal Kim from Flushing. You know what I mean? He was black, man. Baal Kim from Greensbridge? Nah, nah, nah. Baal Kim from Flushing. You know what I mean? He was black and Chinese. You know what I'm saying? His last name was Chin. And he was the most peaceful God. You know what I mean?

And I admired him and that's what made me get into the 5% Nation. And he told me, yo, you're going to be Prince Infinite Love of Love. And so that's all my benevolence in this industry.

That's where that roots from. You know what I'm saying? Peace to the gods and earths. Peace to the gods and earths. Well, always peace to the gods and earths because we on a whole other level roots from. You know what I'm saying? Peace to the gods and earths. Peace to the gods and earths. We're always peace to the gods and earths because we on a whole other level with it. You know what I'm saying? We don't know and understand ourselves

and what we supposed to do, so let's do it. I want to add on with the bookstore shit because I'm selling the t-shirts right now, but the bookstore shit was not a good business move. Wow. I lost a lot of money. What, you buying the bookstore? With not a good business move. Wow. I lost a lot of money.

What, you buying the bookstore? With the IRS, all that. They almost tried to toss me in jail for that type of shit. Wow. You know, because the money that, and Burt Padel told me, he was my accountant back then. Burt Padel. Yo, Burt, I got the poetry book that he. He got the poetry book that he always, every year he gave that out for Christmas.

Yo, I got one of those joints, bro. I used to go to Rush. I just met him one time. I worked with Rush with RPM. That's how I get my- Was he a decent person to deal with? Burt was cool. Burt was cool.

He was an accountant. Burt, but you- He was a legendary accountant. I just met him one time. You didn't really sit with Burt. You know what I mean? You might have got Stu Silfin. Get all the pictures of Madonna and Tyson.

You might have got Stu Silfin or somebody else. Jake Fine. Yeah, Jake Fine. I got Jake Fine. You might have get other people, but- Burt would call you on get Other people Bert will call you On your birthday Exactly

Or you get Or you get a little Glyphsie to the office Yeah Was he genuine Or no He told me You should always

Go up to Bert and shit He told me I'm gonna Lose money from that From that Buying the bookstore He was like Y'all gonna lose money And I was like

We have to save the bookstore Like I can't And I lost money On that shit But It was worth it. Wow. You know what I'm saying?

Money's not everything. I saw the first one for the album, I think. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Well, large, bro. MTV was in that same building. Yeah, at one time. For Burt Riddell? Yeah, for sure.

That's why when you see the rock him. When you see the Eric B and rock him. What's the famous line Biggie says about Burt Riddell? I stopped myself and stopped Tristan Burt Riddell. Cash, Dash, more says About Burt Burdell Stop myself And stop Tristan Burt Burdell Cash Dash more cash Than Burt Burdell Yeah

No No Jay-Z said They wanna Jay-Z said the line Jay-Z said They wanna stop myself And stop Trip to John McNall

That was my account What's Biggie said I like Stash more cash Than Burt Burdell Stash more cash Than Burt Burdell

I like Burt Burdell Poetry book He signed it. I got it. I like when Jay said, who going to stop him? Not Rudy Giuliani, not Hillary Rodham.

Who going, that nigga making paper, boy, who going to stop him? Not Rudy Giuliani, not Hillary Rodham. I was like, Hillary Rodham. I was like,

and then he campaigned for Hillary Rodham. And then like, that's right. Hillary Rodham. I was like, and then he campaigned for Hillary Rodham. And then he campaigned for who? For Hillary Rodham. Oh, man. Oh, shit. I kind of want to get

political with the liberal. Let's not do that. Let's not do that. And it actually happened. You know what I'm saying? They didn't stop him. I think we need it. You know what I'm saying?

So big up, man. All the brothers out there. All the brothers out there. We good, man. We good, man. All the brothers out there getting their the brothers out there. We good, man. We good, man. All the brothers out there getting their bread, got their bread, all that shit, man. I love to see that you rose up how you did, man, because I know your beginnings. You know what I mean?

So I love to see how you rose up, how you one of them fireworks that skyrocketed and went your way. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yo, because Cheeks, I told you, man. Cheeks, I know him from breakdancing days. So he seen- Cardboards? Yo, cardboards, God, with linoleum and things. We was luxury dudes, so we knew, you know, we had crafty.

So we threw the sheet of linoleum over it. She get more spins out of it. Wait, wait, wait, what? Yeah. I didn't know that. Wait, what? He said, wait, what? I didn't know that.

I had my Fila suit on, but I didn't know. Oh, yo, you remember Shante said that? She was like, doing my Fila's in my Fila suit. I feel like my Fila suit made me spin a little bit more. Exactly, because that shit was that vinyl that, yeah, yeah, yeah. I wear Sergio Gini to this day because of the same reason. Oh, that's Sergio? No, that's not Sergio.

I got Sergio on in my mind. We love it, man. We love it, man. We love it, man. Yo, you remember Centrals on the Ave? Centrals? Oh, Jamaica Ave? Centrals on Jamaica Ave. It was the spot where you get the Fila suits.

And the car. And the cars, all that. It was the early Ave, though, like right there by Paulson's and shit. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like that's still there. Yeah, yeah. For sure, Centrals.

He's shitting on us, by the way.. Central's. He's shitting on us, by the way. I love. He's not. He's not. He's not laughing with us. Yo, the OGs. He's laughing at us.

The OGs from Jamaica are going to chime in on the comments. They're going to chime in on the comments. And I'm going to love that because, yo, it's so, you know,

it's in the corner of our minds and shit like that. Yeah. Tyler, Kweli, what is better, beef patty or chicken patty? I mean, you know, I don't eat beef. I don't eat beef neither. Okay, so let better? Beef patty or chicken patty? I mean, you know,

I don't eat beef. I don't eat beef neither. Okay, so let me rephrase the question. Sure. A chicken patty

or a seafood patty? I mean, you know, I like seafood. Okay, you do like seafood? I do. Okay.

Because this is part of the Jamaican ad. Now, get a bean empanada. On the cauliflower? On the cauliflower. In the cauliflower.

The Jamaican flavors. The Jamaican flavors. On the cauliflower? In the cauliflower. It's Jamaican flavors. Jamaican flavors. It's Jamaican flavors. It's Jamaican flavors. No, but they chicken sandwiches, bananas too. I fuck with the chicken. Yo, that jerk chicken sandwich is bananas. I fuck with the curry chicken.

I fuck with the curry chicken. It's the jerk chicken sandwich and the cocoa bread, dog. They talking about the curry chicken. They talking about the Jamaican flavors. No, but Das Deli got the new one. Oh, they got the new one. Das Deli is on fire. They still want to own went to and got that. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about Jamaican flavors. No, but Das Deli got the new one. Oh, they got the new one. Das Deli is on fire. They still want to own up to Jamaican ass.

No, listen to what Das Deli is doing. Das Deli is on fire. They got the curry jerk chicken inside the beef patty, plantains, mac and cheese, and cocoa bread. Word. Yo, they on fire right now. You got to relax, y'all. I'm ready to fly out.

Yo, and it's mad light. It's mad light. I went in there one time because, you know, Nez right around the corner from that spot. So we, you know, Smokin' B's coming up,

so I guess God is over that little... So, boom, they went viral. It was crazy. Yo, the line be around the corner. It's right there, Hollis. Right there by the stop.

Oh, so we're not talking about Coliseum block. We're talking about Daz Deli. We're talking about Hollis. It's on Hollis now. Yo, it's so crazy. So, you know, Nez, I'll be always, and to see the rise of them, like, it's crazy. But when I went in there one time when the line wasn't crazy, I tried one, and it's mad light.

Because you think, like, yo, beef patty with macaroni and motherfucking oxtails and cocoa bread. And you're like, damn, that's a thousand calories. Like, you know, I know you're a calorie counter, too. I know you are. So, but then when I tried one, I was like, yo, I'm going in. Fuck that. I got to support, you know, because I went in there earlier before they went viral. But then, boom, I tried one.

And I was like, yo, this is surprisingly light. I needed two of these. You need to do an ad for them. This is an ad right here. I needed two of these, actually. Seriously. I needed two of these. You need to do an ad for them. This is an ad right here. I needed two of these, actually. Seriously. I needed two of these, actually. Now, you know,

my people's got me in great places, man. Nah, nah, nah. I know the highs of life right now, so, you know, luxury shit, I cannot identify. You know what I mean? Even with her luxury shit,

I cannot identify. But hold on, listen. I'm talking too much now. No, no, no, no. You are talking great. TMI. But you know what? I would like everyone to say something about Lars Proko before we get about it.

Okay. You start first. Man, like you said earlier, he ain't one accepted like legend. Like I've seen him walk a lot. Icon. Icon. I've seen people walk and praise him like coming to America. I said that. I feel like when you walk, I feel like people should throw flowers at you.

Yo, it's just, you know what I mean? It's been done. It's been done. Overall, I call him my brother from another, like, family. Oh. You know what I mean? His mom? Let him finish. Jack.

Hold up, hold up. Let him finish, y'all. Let him finish. What'd you say? Icon. Icon. Pioneer. That's an upright gentleman right there, too. Always tell him to go look at the comments.

I always tell him to go build with the politicians. I'm going to say two more. That's an upright gentleman right there. In the words of my man, Uncle Ralph McDaniels, he calls you an uncle rizzo. Yo, you know Uncle Rizzo. Oh, we love him. He name dropping right now. American historian.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Now, Uncle Ralph always hit me with that because we be all over the place. I see you too, y'all. You know me? Italy all over the place. You are. You know me? Just let him finish.'all. You know what I mean? Italy, all over the place. You are. You know what I mean? Just let him finish.

American history. You can. And I'm going to end it. And I'm going to end it, like I said earlier, my brother. You know what I'm saying? From my mother.

That word brother, you know what I mean? It's a bloodline, but at the same time, he says... His grandmother from Harlem, my grandmother from Harlem. We good for life.

In God's family. We good for life. God's family. And that's what I'll be wanting people to's family. God's family. And that's what I'll be wanting people to get into. God's family. We giving you your love right now. Turn his mic off. How you mute it? You gotta mute his mic.

Mute the mic. You ain't even tell me where the B&B was at. That's my brother right there. And when you, like you said, when you put hip-hop in the fucking dictionary in Queens, you see that man right there, man. Hip-hop and Queens. And Queens.

If you Google it, that man right there. Y'all ain't weak. Y'all ain't weak. Y'all ain't weak. One more. You got to listen to James Ingram, Y'all Ain't Weak. This is the last one. He's a jazz musician, but in hip-hop.

That's dope. I always loved my mama. That's a's dope I always love my mama I always love my mama too I'm going to let the drunk skip Paul Ratt I always love my mama he's a jazz musician that's bars that's bars absolutely

that's absolutely correct I always love my mama it's on me? okay so genuine very caring, solid, real definition of an OG, and just a solid human. Forget all, take all the music thing away. Take all the records and the spinning and all the, just a solid human. He's genuine, very caring.

Just a very solid human, man. Love you, bro. Love you, bro. Very good. Definitely. For no reason. You adding on my stuff. You already had your time already. I just had to add on. Yeah, man, like he was,

like Extra C was referring to, recently, you know, I did the album with Madlib, and Madlib was like, yo, my favorite producer of all time is Larch Professor. And I'm like, okay, I got Larch Professor's number on my phone, and you know we all in this business, we all got each other's phone numbers, but you don't always use your bro's phone numbers because you don't want to bother them.

You don't know what people got going on in your life. But I knew he would take a call. I knew if I said Madlib is in the lab, he would pull up. And I called Pete Rock. He didn't know Pete Rock was going to be there. You didn't have I said Madlib is in the lab, he would pull up. And I called Pete Rock. He didn't know Pete Rock's going to be there. You didn't have to say

Madlib was in the lab. But I said Madlib. You didn't have to say, yo, bro, it's me. It's me. But I did that for Madlib. I did that for Madlib. Because Madlib,

we said that's his favorite, right? And Jay Chappelle pulled up and Yassine Bey pulled up. And we had a great time. Gallop, Gallop, Pete Rock. And he played. This man played. He played. When we showed up. And he played. This man played. He played.

When we showed up for your video shoot. This man. Everybody was there. It was a family reunion. You don't want his flowers at all. All that shit. This man played 100 beats. He brought the machine out.

And they recorded him on the slide. 100 beats. And he said, Federico was. Federico, right. And I told Federico. I got you now, baby. I got you now, baby. I said, press record. I said, press record, because I needico was... Federico, right. And I told Federico... I got you now, baby. I got you now, baby. I said, press record.

I said, press record because I need to record all these beats, right? And I said, what are you doing with all these beats? He was like, niggas don't want to rap

on these beats. And I said, hold my beer. And the next time I seen you, how many songs I played you? He played me six joints. Six joints all the time. Because I was playing... I was going to say nine.

Listen, I bought the drum machine because I'm still that hammer and chisel type guy and shit. You know what I mean? I'm not like that. He had a bag of records with him, too. Exactly. So this is the thing. These is all memes, God. So, yo.

So I'm in there playing beats, Parmy, spitting. Yo, on the motherfucking drum machine They recording the shit the whole time I didn't know that But then boom Yassin come in Like he always do Like he always do

Like when I was working with cellar dwellers I had like a little skeleton running Yeah with cellar dwellers Yeah with cellar dwellers I had a skeleton running It was just enough for us to get loose. You know what I mean? You know how that is.

You just got to lose something. But it's enough for you to get to write some shit. You know what I mean? So I had a skeleton running. Nigga, y'all seen him come in the sheet like, yo, turn the keyboard up. They saw him playing the bass line and shit. Eureka. Like, this nigga's a genius, man.

This is the first thing. So he did the same type of shit in that session. He just came in. He was like, yo, I'm going to go into the mic, blah, blah, blah. So we on there chilling and shit like that. Madlib, everything. Madlib beat me in the head. He like, yo, we going to get up tomorrow and shit.

Then that nigga went back into the mist of the fog. Yeah, yeah, he disappeared. Then he went back into the mist of the fog and shit. You know? He's elusive. But then what we got out of that was Yaseen. You know what I mean? Yaseen laid some shit down.

Then like a couple of days later, they got a show. This nigga let that shit blow on stage right there. The shit that he just recorded. At the Blackstar show, yeah. I'm like, this is what I remember. At the Blackstar show? Because you haven't done shows together a minute right We actually on tour We actually at

New York City We at Blue Note Next week Them brothers We at Blue Note Sony Hall next week Wow Right

How we appreciate them brothers That's right Blackstar Active duty Yo When that When that shit come Oh my god

But this man I had to record on them beats because imagine me, imagine 14-year-old me, what I just told y'all about a large professor. And now I got the opportunity to record with this man. I had to jump on out of the tour. We said what he did. Make some noise for Lars Pro.

Now Lars Pro, because you because this whole time, I understand that you're very... Can we give him some more rosé? Yeah, please, please. Give him some more rosé. No, no, no. He raised a fifth. No, but I realize you're a very humble guy. That is ace of spades, but it's...

You're a very humble guy, but what I want you to know is You're warranted To accept these flowers You're warranted And I can get it I understand You know I'll be on that Italian shit You know my real name is

Paulie But enough about me fellas But enough about me guys You know what I mean Let's get into it You know what I mean That's you know Come on man

Guess what It's not enough about you You're right You're right You know what I mean? Like, that's, you know, come on, man. Guess what? It's not enough about you. You're right. You're right. You're right. You know what? Every day is all about you. Take it all about you.

It's all about you. Now, my family appreciates you right now, man. My family appreciates you, man. Shout out to your family. We appreciate you every day. Hold up, man. Salam. Salam.

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Salam. Salam. Salam. Salam. Salam. Salam. Salam. Sal Absolutely. And Miami Slash Miami. Yeah, two levels. Two levels. But we're all here to make sure you understand. To make sure how important you are. Yo, I know what you're talking about. You know what you're talking about. Turkey burgers, I love them. You know what you're talking about. Hold on, hold on.

Let me finish. Let me finish. Because you are a legend. You are an icon. You are a person. You got it. Be all, sister. Because you are a legend, you are a icon, you are a person that be all to salute you. And we all do salute you. In the world.

In the world. In the world. In the world. In life. And you know what's crazy about this? We live for life. You know what's crazy about this? We good for life. We good for life. What's crazy about this? How humble you are.

See now, because you fly, you get dressed up. No, you deflect too much. You deflect too much. Yeah, yeah. Because you know what? I deflect too much. You gotta stop deflecting. You gotta take your flower.

You gotta take your flower. You know what? I'm just going to leave it for another round. I mean, that's it. That's it. I know what's happening. No, no, no. I know what's happening.

You didn't want to be trusted. You didn't want to be trusted. You didn't want to be trusted. You didn't want to be trusted. You didn't want to be trusted. You didn't want the bottom of my heart, I swear to you. I know it. I know it. No, no, no. I know it's happening. You didn't do it because I do that. I do that. He absolutely does that. I don't want to accept my flowers.

I think it's a crazy thing. We still can't even have. Yes. I know. I do a lovely know. I do. I love you. I love you. Stop. I love you. Stop.

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Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. are going to praise you. And I don't give a fuck how many times you try to defend me. I'm not defending you. You are defending yourself. No fuck, not once. George Bill, Paul Munoz, top of the hill. George Bill.

George Bill. On top of the hill! On top of the hill! Yeaaaaah! I'm a professor! Tell me I have another job! Yes, yes, yes, another job! Yes, yes, yes, what? That's who we shout out today! We should know! LB!

I'll tell you like, yeah, yeah, yeah! No, you gotta laugh. You gotta love this fucking book. No! What was that? Why? He got the front door over here. Yo, do you know that guy right there, man? This guy been telling me he grew up with you, man. This dude right there, man.

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