Drink Champs - Episode 377 w/ Irv Gotti

Episode Date: August 18, 2023

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the Champs chop it up with the one and only, Irv Gotti.Drink Champs Alumni, Irv Gotti is back to share more! Irv shares stories of Fat Joe, Nas, starting his own TV Network and much much more! Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise for Irv Gotti!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com  Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps  DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions  N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Now this guest here is a repeat offender. He has been on here. He's a masochist. Every time he's come on here, we have a great interview, it doesn't matter if he drinks, smokes, whatever. He's, we found out, I think it's 300 million or something that he's out here. One of the greatest catalogs ever in hip-hop.

Every time he comes here, he starts controversy. We're going to keep it light. He's not drinking, I'm not drinking. But we're going to still have fun. In case you don't know, one of the best executives in hip-hop ever to live. Yes. Motherfucking Irv Garvey. Yes.

So how you doing, Irv? I'm hearing about this movie. What is this movie? Tell us what it's about. Well, that was why I sold my masters. So let me backtrack. Okay, cool. I had a plan, you know.

And I was basically, I said, I'm going to sell my past to invest in my future. So it's the masters, not the publishing. A lot of people thought it was publishing. I sold everything. He sold everything. Damn, you sold the publishing too. Goddamn, let's make some noise. I sold the pub.

I sold producer royalties and my masters, which is the biggest part of it. Right. And I think, like I was just saying, I mean, like, I started a trend. After I sold my shit, I just started seeing everyone selling. Yeah. 300 sold theirs? Well, I'm not going to say 300 followed my trend

because Leo is a greedy bastard. You know? Right. He started 300, what, five years? No, I thought Leo got out of that already. He went to Google. So that was like Kevin and Julie, the other 300. Was it that? No? Nah, I thought Leo got out of that already. He went to Google. So that was like Kevin and Julie, the other 300.

Was it that? No? It was Leo. Leo still involved? Goddamn, let's make some noise for that dude. Still getting that money, goddamn. Goddamn. Leo sold for 400.

I'm quite sure Leo got the bulk of that. So they sold 300 for 400? Yes. That's ill. But I feel I didn't have an effect on Leo because he's doing. That's it. But I feel I didn't have an effect on Leo because he's doing

what he's doing. But, you know, all of the other artists, the Futures, the Justin Bieber, and I think they looked at me and they was like,

wow, how much money he had, 100? Right. See what we can get. You know, when you come up and grow up in the hood, 100 is 100, y'all. Yeah, but nobody up and grow up in the hood, a hundred is a hundred, y'all.

Yeah, but nobody can relate to a hundred in the hood, though, Gotti. Yeah, but I... I'm going to give you a hundred. Right. That's a hundred. Right. Even more. But if you're from the hood and you get presented a hundred,

it's hard for you not to... Of course. Who gives a fuck about the nostalgic? I don't give a fuck Right Right right right Like my moms And my whole family

Is good And how does this work They give you the whole hundred Like after you sign It's like hey Here you go Yeah The whole hundred

I mean I'm sure It's all negotiable But you probably Like yeah You ain't want that shit Broken up So you can fuck that Give me the whole hundred

And they He's like the lotto Give it all at once A 200 million line of credit Oh yeah I remember you saying that Wow Because

The guy Ben Ben Fishburne He's a big executive At Pimco Pimco is a Like a trillion dollar company Pimco?

Pimco P-I-M-C-O Okay Get to know them. They got bread. They got like unreal bread. Okay. And the guy, Ben, took a liking to me.

He just took a liking to me and we would go to lunch and things. So he was like, why are you selling your thing? He says, if you don't mind me asking. I said, well, I want to make movies. I want to start a new catalog. You know what I'm saying? I want to do more soundtracks, new artists.

So it's not like I'm retiring. I want to do other things and this money will help. He said, well, you ain't got to spend your money. He said, he's like, I'll give you the money. For the movies

or for the catalog? For whatever. Wow. Because it's a line of credit To invest in all these projects Wow So he put up Like

When he told me It was funny He said Yeah we're a 2.5 trillion dollar company I said Excuse me So you was at the Illuminati meeting When you met him

Where'd you meet him at I don't know Go I'll fuck with you Where do you meet guys like this Guy you know Where do you Like

Well Olivier Chaston Who bought my mask This was an iconic class shit. I'll fuck with you. Where do you meet guys like this, guy? You know, where do you, like... Well, Olivier Chastain, who bought my masters with my Conor class, he put me with him. And again, he just took a liking to me. Right.

Like, Ben is my man. I ain't letting that, I ain't letting them go. Right. 2.5 trillion company. I said, Ben,

excuse me, did you say the T word? The T. Yeah. Yeah, he didn't say the B. He was like, yeah, we're 2.5 trillion. Yeah.

Yeah, they got it. Yeah. They got it, but they don't want to invest in companies. They don't take risk. Right. So he's a company like, I'm doing some shit with Leo on YouTube, some major shit. Okay. So he says, you know, if you get it with Leo and he'll guarantee a hundred million, I'll give you a hundred million.

But he needs a reputable company to like give me a licensing deal guaranteeing that I'm going to make this money. Like evaluation type of thing? Right. So, you know, I told him, I said, Joe, usually once a year. I said, man, $100 million in a year. I said, I need more time. He said, I mean, I don't know. He said, you want two, three years?

He said, we do it. Wow. But he said, if I get Leo to do it and sign it, he said, I'll get you the money tomorrow. Wow. Wow. So they don't risk no money. So understand what I'm saying. Once Leo, if Leo was to sign that deal,

they'll give me $100 million knowing YouTube is the cash cow and going to generate the money and pay them back. The thing I'm doing with Leo is major. That's why I came up here. I got some mind-boggling major shit. Okay, so it's not just a movie.

Let's finish up with the movie before we bounce around. You sold the publishing, you sold your masters, and now you're getting into the movie. This is your first feature film? That I wrote, directed, produced, and paid for. And paid for. And it's a hip-hop movie, so all my hip-hop niggas, y'all going to love it. Right. It's really a good movie, and it's for the hip-hop culture.

Right. Yeah, I made it. Right. And when does it drop? It drops October 6th, tentatively, October 6th. And what I also did, when I made the movie, said fuck it I'm gonna Cast a brand new person You know what I'm saying

Cause I like doing that Putting these on and shit So When I Went to cast a new person The idea hit me Yo I should film it Film you casting a new person

Okay Competition and the guy Wow Be competition, getting the role, and then behind the scenes making the film. Is that the BET thing you was doing? Like auditions? I know you with BET now. No, no, no, no. No, we just cool. No, no, no.

We cool. You're like, a word? Why? What the fuck? I'm going to edit this part. Don't edit it. Okay, all right. Scott Mills don't like black people.

Oh, shit. You on some Kanye West shit. Oh, shit. Let me rephrase. Scott Mills don't like hood niggas, young hip-hop niggas, black people. Now, that's a white guy at BET? I don't know. He's a black guy,

but I say he's the whitest black guy ever in existence. But Tyler Perry came and took over, though. Madea is running this place. Did that happen officially already? Yeah, Madea running this spot. I mean, he generates and makes all the money. Okay.

Wow. But I thought, tell... I could honestly say that Scott Mills got me up out of BET. Meaning? He got me up out of there. Like, say, get IG up out of there? He just shut down my shit.

Wow. He don't like young niggas like me. Wow. No college education and shit. He frowns upon niggas like me. Wow. So, you know, that's why i got removed from bt but it's so crazy because god works in such a great way that it was a blessing right because i'm gonna start my own

network culture tv i wish drink champ should be on Culture TV. Hey, man. You know. Hey, man. Hey, hey. I said the same thing to Killer. Okay. Him and Mase. I said, man, I get this network, man. Y'all niggas need to be with Culture TV. So really the concept of Culture TV is think of CBS,

ABC, NBC. It's a 24-hour network. And it's going to have a newscast. It's going to be all hip-hop people. You should have a handball show. Jim Jones will probably be the weatherman.

Right? And I got a, you know, judge shows are very popular. I won a judge show with Redman. Imagine Redman. Imagine Redman is the judge.

I can see that. You and your stinking asses get the fuck out of there. I can see that. You know, just making a great network that caters to us And you know That's what I got to talk to Leo about Leo loved it

So a 24 hour show Is this 24 hours Network Network I'm sorry And it's competing with BET MTV VH1

Viacom That type of shit I'm going to kill them Okay you're going to kill them Yeah Okay I mean when you look at BET I think MTV, VH1, Viacom, that type of shit. I'm going to kill them. Okay, you're going to kill them. Yeah. Okay. I mean, when you look at BET,

I think Drink Champs is the only thing that they have on there that really... No, we're not on BET. We're on Revolt. We're on Revolt. Let's make some noise for Black. But we got a couple deals

with BET, though. We love the hip-hop on BET. No, no, no. I didn't love the hip-hop on Viacom. Well, that was BET Wasn't it on the spot On the VH1 Breakfast Club

Yeah Breakfast Club Yeah yeah They ain't let me back But it was VH1 or BET It was One of them shits I raped the budget They said no more

No more No more I'm not here to be friends You know what I mean I'm not here to be friends with them But um Uh Let's bounce around a little bit

Right I know this is some crazy shit You might not be ready for this But let's bounce around a little bit, right? I know this is some crazy shit. You might not be ready for this. But they recently discovered that aliens is coming to Earth. Like, aliens actually exist. They didn't discover it. They've supposedly been here. Aliens actually exist.

IG, if the alien come down right now and say to you, I want to understand human behavior. One album. What is a one album that you would give to an alien that came down and said, I want to know a human.

One album. One album. You got to give him. Man. I made that up. One album is difficult to do that with one album. Yeah, just one album.

Yo, man, come on, fuck. I mean, X for sure is dark and hell is hot. But they all come from different perspectives. So it depends on the perspective that he wants. All right, the alien is just like, nigga, I just want to know about human nature. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, he came down for 50 years and he's off.

Yeah, yeah, 50 years and he's off. But X is gritty human hop. Yeah, yeah. 50 years of hip hop. He want one album. But X is gritty human nature. Yeah, but. You know, Jay is. But you can only pick one. Jay is like the good life human nature. So you can't pick?

Depends on what kind of human nature the alien wants. The alien just say, yo, I just need one hip hop album to make sure I can fall in love with hip-hop. Then it's probably X. Which album? It's Dark and Hell is Hot. First one. Yeah. That album was...

The impact it had on the world, I couldn't believe it. I couldn't fucking believe it. When that shit came out, I literally would ride around Brooklyn, Bronx, Harlem, fucking thing. Everyone was playing that shit. Yeah. Because I do that. I used to do that. When the album first day it came out

I just ride around And see if I feel The vibe of it Right X Forget about it Yeah Every fucking single call

White people Black people Spanish people Everyone was banging That nigga's shit Right I don't know what it was About them

But they love That motherfucker yo Nah I mean You heard Scarlett She's dope Nah know what it was about them but they love that yo nah i mean um did you hear scar lip she's dope nah i haven't heard it yet i haven't heard scar what have you been like goddy i know about the up hold on she got a joint back the up i'm like i back up i mean like girl it's like the female like if if x i don't want to put that pressure on her. Yeah, but I don't really want that from a female, so.

You don't know until you hear it, though. Yeah. I didn't want that from a female until I heard it. I was like, oh, she's like, she's actually, like she give you that, I mean, nothing could be X, right? Nothing could be X, let's be clear. But if you would do a 23 3d version and a female version and yeah she's from this bronx you could just hear you could just hear it in her like like she probably was influenced yeah and she's with darren she's yes yes well i'll call him d yeah

yeah yeah yeah she's with d so he's giving giving the little nuances too. But do you think that a female could fulfill that position? Not be X. Of course not. No one could be X, man. How about this? How about this? You think any man can fill that position?

They have a better shot than a female. I don't think so, because X is just truly one of one. fill that position? They have a better shot than a female. Okay. Because... I don't think so, because X is just truly one of one. Yeah. Right. But they have a better shot than a female. Because I'll tell you this, when Tupac

passed away, no one thought that... But DMX is somewhat of a version of Tupac, so is Ja Rule somewhat of a version of Tupac. You think that could somewhat of a version of Tupac? You think that could happen? Nobody's Pac, yo. Nobody's Pac?

No one's ex neither? Nobody is Pac. Why? The man seen some white people beating up a nigga. Yeah, and he shot at him. Shot at him. Shot at him.

He shot at him, yes. In Atlanta. All you rap niggas is not Pac. Right, right, right. Once he did that Yeah It's not close

Right He pulls his gun out And blasts these niggas You're not Pac Right Don't even Don't even Don't even go there

Like I hold Pac At the highest Highest Highest regard Right Because of just it's so crazy because when you really get into

Pac and listen to his lyrics, I hope I die the way I live, straight thugging. He died straight thugging. Like, his prophecy is retarded on the lyrics

that he spoke and how he conducted his life. It was prophetic. You put the fucking shit together, you like, yo,

this nigga ain't nobody this nigga. All right. And how much he recorded, like, he knew time was coming. He was saying this shit.

All right. He was saying this shit like no one's Pac. You ever met Pac? Nah. I never met Pac neither. How about Biggie? Oh, Biggie was my man.

Biggie Ice Cube. Come on, man. What, man? I mean, it's hard. It's tough to put anyone Above bed Above bed Yeah cause I just As a rap fan

That nigga was just nice And let me stop you for one second Not only that At that time New York Ran the world right Does that And not only that I don't give a fuck about that

If you felt that energy from New York at that time, I understood, I understand people who argue me. You know what I mean? I don't give a fuck about that.

I give a fuck about live from Bedford Stuyvesant. The live, what? Representing BK to the fullest. It don't rhyme. But it rhymes. No, but big was just

nice. Oh, shit. Yeah, the flow. It was that flow. It was incredible. But it rhymed. No, but Big was just... Nice. Oh, shit. Yeah, the flow. It was that flow. It was incredible. I never knew that. It was flowing.

Yeah, that flow. He made it rhyme. Live as one. Representing BK to the fullest. Yeah, it does. After that, it was divine. He was in a different pocket. I'm bad for fucking.

It ain't nothing. He was just in the studio going. But... I'm bad for fucking, it ain't nothing. He was just in the studio going. I'm yet to see anyone like that. Right. Like that. The flow, the cadence, the breath control. That nigga was ridiculous to me. Right.

Like he was ridiculous. I remember him at a party and bullshit. He was nicer lyrically and on the mic to me than Pac. Pac was just different because he was the realest nigga ever created. Right. Which made him, to me, the top nigga. Right. You can't say all the shit these...

Who about died the way I I live straight thuggin this nigga died stomping out a gangbanger and then got blasted he thuggin this nigga's the biggest rapper

in the world what the fuck is you doing stomping out he's with Chrissy Jones' daughter he's wildin right?

that's who he was with that day right? yeah yeah yeah he's wild was he engaged I think this nigga was on the streets for real. Yeah.

Yeah, but he, he, he, Pac is, Pac is Pac. All right. But Big, psh. You got to be Big, though. Yeah, he said it. I was on tour with Big. Me, Mike Geronimo, Big, Craig Mack. Crazy.

You was Mike Geronimo DJ? I put the nigga on. I know. I'm asking you at the time. Come on. Calm down. Calm down. Calm down. We know where this is going.

We don't want to go there. We don't want to go there. Hey. Even when Jay and Dame, they're like, yo, God, he's our DJ.

I was way more than a fucking DJ. There ain't nothing wrong with the DJ now. Come on. There's nothing wrong with the DJ, but I was way more than a fucking DJ. But there ain't nothing wrong with the DJ now. Come on. No, there's nothing wrong with the DJ, but I was way more than a nigga playing records and keeping it together.

All right. I put their whole plan together. You talking about Rockefeller? Yes. Because Dane said you fucked everything up. Did you hear him say that on the internet? I don't listen to Dane. Does anyone listen to Dane anymore?

The internet does. He's lit on the internet. He's lit on the internet? Good for him. Good for him. But I don't give a fuck about what Dame Dash says. But y'all was all right. Y'all was all like together. What? Chimbaye. Chimbaye? I don't like that no more. Up with Ashland and had to move on? I mean, I fucks with Jay. Up with Ashland, had to move on? I mean,

I fucks with Jay. I fucks with Biggs. You know, Dame just has his certain ways and certain things. It's all good. He doesn't call you a culture vulture. I can't be called a culture vulture. I am the culture, yeah.

But I heard what he said He was like oh He has this fucking Gotti Let me just explain that situation Okay cool Okay Jay makes Take over Nas drops

Ether Let me slow you down Were you in the studio When Jay made Takeover Or no No Okay so you get to hear it Afterwards

This is Let's be clear The first time we heard Takeover Was Hot 97 Summer Jam This was I believe The same German Jam That he brung out Michael Jackson in right

And then in between I could be a little bit off About something And then he said Tell Nas could be a little bit off about something. And then he said, tell Nas we don't want it with Hose. And no one actually thought that that was a record. People thought it was a freestyle. And then the record drops. I mean, Jay had what Jay felt was a super card.

Right. The ace in the hole. His ace in the hole was, I'm fucking your bitch. And the joker. That's the joker. The ace in the hole. His ace in the hole was, I'm fucking your bitch. And the Joker. That's the Joker. The ace in the hole was... So he thought that's why he's like, yeah, he wanted it. Jay's

a bastard. He wants to be number one. So he gonna pick a fight or whatever because he wants everyone to know, nigga, you, not me. Right. All right, so boom. Ether fucks the whole shit up, right?

Right. Fuck Jay-Z. What's the story with Ether? That record to this day is like, I don't know what mindset. I was in the club with Nas the other day and it came on. We both put our head down.

We didn't want nothing to do with it. Like, you heard us. I was like, I did it. I see his head down too. I was like, oh shit. That's a regular shirt. Kid you not. That record is so hard.

Right. He told me though, I think his mother died. When Jay came at him, he was dealing with his mother dying. Damn. So I think that kind of helped. Helped it.

Fuel that monumental record. Right. Yeah. And so Ether comes out. So I'm in my office. Okay. And it's you who called Jay or Jay called you? No. Let me explain. Okay, cool. I'm in my office. And it's you who call Jay Or Jay call you? No

Let me explain it Okay cool I'm in my office I'm minding my business This nigga Jay Is in my office Every day Hot 97 Battle of the Beats

This happens yet? No No Okay Yeah Wait That yeah that happened Yeah cause that's when people

Declared that Nas won No no That didn't happen Cause it happened with Super Ugly Okay Oh yeah that's right So theclared that Nas won No no That didn't happen Because it happened With Super Ugly Okay Oh yeah that's right So the nigga Is in my office

Every day Now if you know Jay Jay isn't the type of dude That's gonna Openly ask for help Or Openly ask for anything So every day

So by the third day I'm like what's up I hit him I'm like what's up nigga Who's fucking with. I'm like, what's up, nigga? Who's fucking with you? Who's bothering you? He said, yeah, Gotti. Oh, shit.

He's fucking with me. I said, you want to get him? He said, yeah, I want to get him. So in my mind, I'm like, you've been saying all this. If he do something, you're going gonna basically air out his bitch. Uh-huh. Right? He been,

he been saying little things. Uh-huh. So we went to baseline. Dame Dash is not around. Oh. Dame Dash was never around.

Wait, what? What did you just say? I mean, he was he wasn't around like Hov is Hov, nigga Right, right Don't get it fucked up Hov don't need nobody

Right Once Hov got on He was the guy I would be like He didn't need nobody Right Like X X needed people around him to help him

Right, right John needed me to help him Right John needed me to help him Right Hove Right Once he got on he didn't need nobody Hmm He could do it all himself

He'll pick the beats Go fuck with the producer He didn't need nobody Hmm So we go in there I put on a super ugly beat And he does what he does Talk about his bitch.

No one cared. At the time, I could tell, like, I wasn't in the studio session, but I could tell you thought that was hard. I, in all honesty, I thought he did what he was saying he's going to do. Now, did I think it was the hardest shit?

No. Because in retrospect... If you would have asked me ether or super ugly, I would have been like, yo, ether, yeah. Like, are you serious? This is a free... And I didn't want to get in that arena. So I'm using another nigga beat. I didn't make a beat.

It's a freestyle. Ether's a wrecker. Takeover's a wrecker. You want't make a beat. It's a freestyle. Ethan's a wrecker. Takeover's a wrecker. You want to do a battle, do Takeover and Ethan. I think Ethan still wins. Right? But do that. You did a

freestyle where he just was rhyming or whatever. So that's the exact story of how that came about. It was rhyming Or whatever So That's That's the exact story Of how that came about Right

And And it was funny Cause My nigga Preem and shit When Preem heard it Cause after Super Ugly That's when radio Did the

Cause wasn't it two beats Super Ugly and something else It was Super Ugly and Ethan And they put them together. Talk about the Jay record. Didn't you mix two different beats? Or it was only Super Ugly? It was just Super Ugly.

Okay, cool. So now this nigga Preem, he was like, nah, man, Jay shit ain't right. And I was like, what? I said, you ain't fucking with it He said He said You know He said

Real niggas don't really Give a fuck about Talking about a bitch Alright Alright So Preem When Preem said that I was like

Oh shit Alright Alright Preem was like You know Saying you fucked a bitch Or This nigga's bitch Or whatever like, you know, saying you fucked a bitch or this nigga's bitch or whatever. But then, you know,

it's all timing. All right. Because it worked for Pac. All right. All right. That's why I fucked your bitch, you fat mother. All right.

Jesus. It worked for him. It still. It still hurts. It still hurts. It sounds crazy. It still hurts. Right.

But it worked for him. It didn't work for Jay. Right. And Ether just avalanched him after that. Tupac going to jail worked for him. A lot of people going to jail, it doesn't work for them. Right. Tupac going to jail

definitely gave him more of an edge, more of the credibility. It's just crazy. You think Gunn is a snitch? gave him more of an edge, more of the credibility. Right. It's just crazy. Right. You think Gunn is a snitch? I don't really like talking about that because I went through things.

So I know things. Right. Once you start taking plea deals. Right. Right. Sadate, right, BJ? It's about booty chain? Yeah, yeah, I know Sadate.

I know Sadate. Once you start taking plea deals, you working with them. Right. And the funny shit with me, they tried to get... They came to me and anything, you want to say anything,

I told them they to suck my dick. And it was so funny. So I told him suck my dick early. So then I get pulled over on like a suspended license. So they got me in the holding cell and three federal agents come to the holding cell. They said, hey, tough guy, you want to tell us something now? I'm like, it's a suspended license. It was like straight out of a movie.

It's a suspended license. Didn't I tell y'all go suck my fucking dick? I'm like, get the fuck out of here, yo. They said, me and Prem, get the fuck out of here, yo. I said, me and Prima, get the fuck out of here. I got it fucked up. Wow. So I know.

Mm-hmm. Thank you. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. And like, niggas ain't cut from, they ain't cut from that. Okay.

And I'm not, I'm not, like some, a part of me be like, eh, to each his own. Mm- his own You know what I'm saying Do what's best for your life You know what I'm saying

Do what's best for your life dog But me I just can't I remember my mother Who I worship And it was my mother And thing I was I was like Two days from going To trial So it was my mother and thing i was i was like two days from going to trial so it was on and my mother was uh she was rattled wow so she's crying and she's asking me you don't love me

damn they're gonna take you and then she was getting all of the feds don't love me Damn They're gonna take you And then she was getting All of the feds Don't know who's right Your son's going to jail For 20 years Right That's what they told your moms?

Damn They basically was like Yo the feds Have a 98% conviction Conviction rate Right So There was

She was You don't love me you don't love me. You don't love me. They're going to take you away from me. And I'm such a big part of my family. She says, this whole family is going to be crushed. Wow. You're going to crush this family.

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Oh, wow. Just get yourself out of this situation. Wow. And I looked at her. I said, I can't do it. Why? And she said, why? Why?

I said, man, you fucking with my sleep. Why? I said, I ain't going to be able to sleep. Why? I said, I won't be able to look in the mirror. I'd have to remove all the mirrors from my house. Why? Why? wall of mirrors from my house. Right, right. And my dad,

my dad was like, told my mother, leave it alone. He said, our son is a man. Leave it alone. That was an ill moment. Real tough.

He said, my son, he was like, yo, our son is a man. Leave it alone. And he consoled my mother and shit. Wow.

Rest in peace, right? Your pops passed away? Yeah, rest in peace. Yeah. Well, there's a famous story, right? Chris Gotti. So he said that you had a meeting with Jay about you doing business with Nas. And then after that.

Yeah, I saw that. I saw that story, yeah. You want to finish? No, no, no. Okay, all right. And then after that. I want to finish, I don't even know if it happened. Wait, wait, wait, wait, what?

What did you say? I said, finish the story. Yeah, so he said that you met with Jay about doing business with Nas. And I believe the words was, it's good business. And then Jay went and did business, a Reebok deal and a commercial deal. And when the time was right, when you stepped back to him and said, what's going on? He said to you, it was good business.

I'll give you my version. Okay. Okay. Yes. We want your version, sir. I never, I don't, I don't recall me. I don't recall me. I recall me talking to Jay about Nas.

Doing business with Nas. And I was like, y'all beef ain't real. Right. Right. And I was like, if it was real, I wouldn't do it.

I like Nas. Everyone likes Nas. Everyone likes Nas Everyone likes Nas Everyone likes Nas You have to And he's legendary Yes You know

Nas coming to Murder Ring If he actually did that It would have made It would have put Murder Ring In a whole different stratosphere Right So I'm an ambitious nigga So

So you think that was a mistake though? 100% 100% Because the relationship That me and Jay had Right So once I did that So I'm an ambitious nigga, so. So you think that was a mistake, though? 100%. 100%. Because the relationship that me and Jay had. Right. So once I did that, like, Jay openly was like I was dead to him. Right. And now it opened up, him doing all of the things with 50, and I couldn't say shit.

Right. So it is what it is Right So we got We got Tommy Mottola Coming up here Tommy's coming? Yeah Tommy's coming

It's been in the works For a minute yeah Yes yes yes Have you spoke to him since Me and Tommy's cool Since the stuff you said On the Dream Champs? Me and Tommy's cool

Okay Me and Tommy's cool I never Seen him At my anger height. Because I wanted to fuck Tommy up, to be honest. Right. I think you said that on here. He called Corey Rooney a fat nigga.

Right. Corey Rooney denies that, by the way. He seen me at Soho House. First of all, Corey Rooney wasn't there. Oh, okay. It was me and Tommy on the phone. Oh, that's right. Oh, okay. It was me and Tommy on the phone. Oh, that's right. That's right.

I'm sure Tommy didn't call him to his face a fat nigga. Right, right. But he 100% called him a fat nigga on the phone with me. I told that fat nigga

to do this or do that. I said, what'd you say? What? I said, you know you're talking to a nigga, right? Right.

I said, I'm going to fuck you nigga, right? Right. I said, I'm going to fuck you up when I see you. Right. He saw a cop and mad pleas and shit like that. Right.

But, you know, proceed with your own caution to mention that or bring it up. He might, Gotti's bugging. Nah, nigga. I know Goddy

He don't bug like that Alright He's a very honest Truthful dude yo Alright If he says You said fat nigga Ah

You probably said it Alright Was Um Ah You probably Was the last time You spoke to Kanye

Hmm When's the last time you spoke to Kanye? Months Months? Yeah, I like Kanye though We all like Kanye too I like Kanye We love Kanye, right? He came up here He came up here?

Yeah Couple times Kanye different Yeah He danced to his own drum Yes, yes, it's very, yeah. Kanye different. Yeah. He danced to his own drum. Yes, yes, yes. It's very true. You know what I'm saying?

He danced to his own drum, but there's no denying the impact he's had on culture, fashion, music. He's off the charts, y'all. All right. All right. You want to play

Quick Time with Sly and put BJ in? And we got Sonny, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where's Sonny? Oh, shit. Where's Sonny? Oh, he right there? All right. You want to play Quick Time with Sly and put BJ in? And we got Sonny, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where's Sonny? Oh, shit. Where's Sonny? Oh, he right there?

All right, cool. All right, cool, cool. You want to explain to him the game? You got cataracts. No, because I'm fucking sober today. I'm much better drunk. You know what I mean? But I'm sober today.

Sonny, you're not going to stay with us. You got to come over here. What are we doing? Oh, it's Quick Time with Sly. Is BJ in? BJ. BJ. I'm coming. You going to take some shots for Gotti? All's quick time of slide. Is BJ in? BJ. BJ. You going to take some shots for Gotti?

Oh, there he goes. Wow. You going to take some shots for Gotti? Man. Yeah, yeah. Sit right here then. Come on. Give BJ right here.

Come on. No, you coming in. I know. Yes, you sit on the side of... You can sit over here. Yeah, sit on the side of your friend. Yeah, I could watch Uncle run his mouth Cause my sister Val

Had two kids Yeah yeah yeah Your friend gonna explain The game right now Your friend explain the game Alright we got two choices I ain't doing nothing This drink

What you want BJ you want Duce Or Deleon Okay Duce Alright cool You don't have to drink Duce BJ, you want a D'Ussé? I got it right here. De Leon. Or De Leon. Sonny, he's going to make me drink something. Okay, D'Ussé. All right, cool. You don't have to drink D'Ussé.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, they drinking for us? Yeah, yeah, drinking for us. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah. Yes. Okay, you want us to play the game? You get two choices.

Gotti, listen, listen. Go ahead, Gotti. Go ahead. All right, two choices. Pick one. Nobody drinks. You say both or neither. We drinking. Okay. Yeah. Simple. drinks. You say both or neither, we drinking.

Okay. Yeah. Simple. Okay. You want me to set it off? Set it off. I'm going to drink with you. We all drinking, by the way.

Okay. Well, except you two. Today I'm bowing out. Two rich guys. I can't see me drinking, no. No, no, no. I respect it. Okay, this is a good one.

They'll be up here Like looking for you yo They said no smoking and drinking Okay y'all ready? Let's go Oh fuck You want me to start? No no I got it I want that one

That's a New York shit Oh fuck Alright you ready? Go ahead Illmatic or Ready to Die? Illmatic Okay Illmatic in my opinion

Is the greatest hip hop album ever That's the album I would tell the aliens To check out That's what I said You give that to what you said? You give that to the aliens? I'm going to give that album to the aliens I'm going to give that album to the aliens

That's the album you give to the aliens for hip-hop. Illmatic is the greatest hip-hop album. When I listen to Illmatic, I smell Queensbridge. Like, I smell it. Like, I literally smell how the hallway smells. And I'm not talking about the bad part. You know, there's people in the projects with the leathers on their couch. I smell the leathers on their couch. You know what I'm talking about? You know, they say that you stick to the plastic. That's what I mean. I the leathers on their couch. I smell the leathers on their couch.

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm talking about? You know, they say that you stick to the plastic. That's what I mean. I said leathers. I meant plastic, yeah.

The piss in the elevator. That too. But there's certain apartments that smell great. You know what I mean? But that visualized, when I heard Illmatic, I visualized everything

that he said and I visualized where he was at when he said it. Yeah, it's cinematic in your mind. To me, that's one of the- How old was he when he did that, 17? I think 17. I believe 17, which means, remember,

we had to record things a year in advance back then, which means he probably recorded it at 16. Yeah, some of those songs before, it was like a demo. Right. So these young niggas with these dumb lyrics, they ain't got no excuse. He had the dream team, though. He had-

Primo, Pete Rock Yeah but they ain't write his lyrics He had to still write those lyrics No Lyrics Yeah Production wise He had the dream team

That's what he said To feed the screen He was in Baltimore Uh huh He was hustling And local makes Had this part of the house In the Queens

He was at this part of He was blasting that He was blasting the house Yes yes yes, yes. I ain't gonna lie. He was blasting Ready to Die? Yes. Okay. Got it.

TV series or movie? Or movies, excuse me. What do you prefer? Movies is sexier. TV series makes more money. Oh, really? Really? So is that both? Which one do you prefer? Movies is sexier TV series makes more money Oh really? So is that both? Which one you picking?

Yeah which one you picking? Good things about each Movie Movie? Okay cool I don't drink nothing My man is But look at you set up though

But you set the fuck up Okay Producing or directing? Ooh. Take a shot? I love both equally. All right, yeah. Take a shot.

Take a shot. Come on, God damn. I love both. Ooh, this is a good one. They're very similar, too. Directing and producing. This is a good one. By the way,

these are the two people who've already asked these questions. The Dominican guy who smells like haze and the engineer from Columbia who smells like cocaine. It's a fact.

It's just how it happens. We don't plan it like this. New artist that I got, Jazz Laser. His video for Drive Slows is coming. Man. Crazy.

Yeah. I produced Me, Seven The Audibles Are you bringing Seven back? Does he light your incense And candles? I mean

I feel like he just comes with Incense and candles Yes Yeah okay Incense and candles Okay But you know With Seven's with me

Yeah Y'all Together Wait till I hear these new records Okay Okay Okay hold on. We'll come back to that.

Let's move on. Leo Combs or Kevin Lyles? Leo. It's not even... What do you mean? Nah. Okay. Kev works for Leo.

Okay. I mean, you didn't have to say it like that. I mean, it's just facts. I'm fucking with you. Kev will forever be one of Lior's henchmen? That's right. That's right. Okay.

Is dark and hell is high or flesh of my flesh? It's dark. It's dark. Okay. Large pro or Marley Mar? I learned how to. That's a shot, man. No, it's not a shot.

Not? Marley Mar. I learned how to make beats. Oh, it's not a shop I learned how to make Beats Oh you sing large pro From large professors Oh okay I used to

On the tour we had It was Main source The UMCs and jazz And I used to sit In large professor room And he'd hook up his Equipment

The SP The 950 He would go record shopping And I would watch that nigga Put it together the room and he'd hook up his equipment, the SP the 950. He would go record shopping and I would watch that nigga put it together. And that's how I learned how to make beats. That's dope. Through Lars Professor. By watching that nigga.

By watching that nigga. Wow. He made this record. It was a remix for Slick Rick. It's a boy. Boom, boom. About a chick being pregnant? Some jazz record.

And I watched that nigga filter that shit with the beat. I was like, this nigga is ill. Lars Professor. He's a scientist. That nigga is ill. He Professor. He's a professor. Yes, he's a scientist. That nigga is ill. He different. Let me tell you a famous story that Alchemist told me.

Alchemist seen that we had Lars Professor on the show, so Alchemist calls me and says, yo, you know Lars Professor's a crazy motherfucker. I said, what do you mean? We all know that. He said, but look, let me tell you something. He goes to a show with Lars Professor one night to go see Ray Kwan. So as they go see Ray Kwan, Lars Professor turns around

and just walks out. So when they walk out, he just walks out. So Alchemist is like, yo, so everyone sits there and watch Ray Kwan perform. And then they come out and they're like, yo, Lars Pro, why did you leave? He was like, yo Yo Ray Kwan

Ain't had no Cuba Link So I'm gone I couldn't see the God Like that I was like Yo Yo Yo

Did you understand What I was saying That's how hip hop he was He thought You wanna know The crazy shit Cause he ain't Having no Cuba Link

Good That's large professor That's real hip hop shit That's large professor Mm Mm Joey didn't have Cuban Lincoln I couldn't watch him

Yo I asked him What's his dream feature He said Jadakiss I said you got a dream Bigger my brother Jesus No disrespect

That's my brother I love Jadakiss I speak to him everyday But that's your dream feature You don't want Dr. Dre Nah You don't want Drizzy Drake On your joint Pause You don't want Dr. Dre? Nah. You don't want Drizzy Drake on your joint? You don't want Travis? I could see him wanting Jada.

Jada's in his vibe. Jada's my brother because this is going to sound crazy. But come on. He's from 20 minutes away from you. That's what he wants, bro. That's real. That's real hip-hop. That's real hip-hop. That's real hip-hop. Real hip-hop. I got the next one. Okay, go ahead.

All right. LL Cool J or Big Daddy Kane? Cool J. Cool. Scarface or Ice Cube? Wow. Wow. Wow. Take a shot?

Let him take a shot. Wow. I can see your thoughts going through. I'm trying to pick one, but every time I pick one, I'm like, but the other is like. What was it to? Scarface or Ice Cube. Or Ice Cube.

I'm a face fanatic, yo. All right. But you pick Biggie over him, though. I'll take the shot. Who about a jerk? Take the shot. That's all we used to listen to. Me, you, and Preen, right?

Scarface with J Prince. With J Prince. I'm wiggling my ass. No, that was Larry Hoover. Yeah. He says, you know, he said, niggas try to lay you down and fuck you in the ass.

He said, I'm a rebellious nigga. You know, I'm going to wiggle my ass. Who said this? Larry Hoover on the Ghetto Boys Resurrection album. Okay, okay. The Ghetto Boys Resurrection album. All the skits is. No pause, shit.

No gangsta shit. Yeah, just hit play. My bad. Just hit play. It's just not paused now. But that was Face, man. You know what made my respect for Face go even higher?

So he comes to my studio. Me and him is, we good, we cool. He comes to the studio. Don't you know this nigga is picking up guitars, playing the piano.

Very music, you know. Yeah. He plays everything. Yeah. And golf too. And I'm sitting there looking at him. You think this nigga is one of the most He plays everything. Yeah. And golf, too. And I'm sitting there looking at him. You think this nigga's one of the most vicious gangster rap niggas.

He's into guitar. I'm like, oh, that's why all that music was coming out. It's musical, yes. Retarded. This nigga, he's one of them. He's fucking one of them. That's why I'm like, but Cube, come on, man. So BJ taking a shot, basically.

Yeah. Take a shot. Come on. Come on. Yeah, that one. That one. Because Cube, man. America's most. Oof.

I was at the Apollo when he performed. Did he have Jerry Curls? No. For America, he did. No. When he came Live show Live show at the Apollo

He fucked New York up He said what's up New York He took his hat off And had the ball head And they lost their mind Okay wow They lost their mind They thought he was down

Public Enemy He was Nigga let me tell you They thought he was Part of the Public Enemy Then he did Once upon a time In the projects

Yo And then put the mic up They sung the whole record And start throwing money At this nigga I was like This nigga Is just

Killing it That's coming right out of Straight out of Compton Right out of NWA Yeah and leaving it Wild Wow He

That was I give Ice Cube at the Apollo America's Most, that's like top three. Wow. On shows that I've seen. Wow. He's like top three. Right. He had that whole, he had the Apollo in the palm of his hand. Wow.

Then what was so ill after that, he finishes performing, this nigga's walking up and down 125 with Lynch Mall. Wow. What's up, niggas? What's up? Wow.

They said the only other nigga that did that was Pac after the House of Blues. Mm. They said after the House of Blues performance, the nigga Pac shirt off, smoking a blunt. House of Blues where? Is House of Blues everywhere? In LA. Oh, in LA, okay. In LA, that big performance with the white pants and

everything like that. Oh, with the Def O' Chain? They said that nigga was walking outside for dolo, smoking a blunt, screaming Westside. I'm like yo Who is this nigga So just imagine if you're there This nigga just finished Rocking House of Blues On some iconic shit And this nigga's walking up and down Sunset Fodolo smoking a blunt

Screaming Westside You fucked You fucked You ready You fucked. You fucked. You ready? Straight Outta Compton or The Notorious Movie? Straight Outta Compton. Straight Outta Compton.

The fuck is this next one? Twitter or Instagram? These are these guys. What the fuck is this? Instagram. Huh? Oh, X now? Yeah. Yeah, these rich niggas is bugging.

Mark Zuckerberg and who's the other nigga? Elon. I ain't going to fight. I want to be that rich and be that petty. You're supposed to fight. Listen, whatever they doing, that's rich nigga petty beef and I'm in for it

I'm the only one that like this shit? No, that's what I'm saying I think it's both sitting on like 200 billion Word Word Talking about they want to fight Yeah, they ain't fighting, they going to have their robots fight Their AI is going to fight

Their AI is going to fight for them I don't even watch that I don't even care Big L or Big Pun? Woo Damn You got a drink today Yeah you got a drink today

Did we ever You ever interacted with Big L? No And Pun? Yes Any Pun stories? No. And Pun? Yes. Any Pun stories? No. I was just

I was going to come up with Pun. It was in that cipher. Oh yeah. With DMX, Cannabis and Mike Geronimo. And Mike Geronimo. But I didn't interact. Right.

I was random. Pun was a motherfucker though because he was very charismatic very funny. Right. I was around him. Poem was a motherfucker, though, because he was very charismatic, very funny. Right, yeah. He was supposed to stick around for a minute. Both of them. Big L, too.

Yep. Big L was phenomenal. Rest in peace to both. Pun had more charisma. Right. Than Big L. Big L was like a Nas nigga. Right. And Big L. Big L was like a Nas nigga. Right.

Pun will make you laugh and shit. He was witty with the rhymes. I like Pun a lot. Onyx or Lost Boys? You're going to put Queens against Queens? That's these niggas. That's these niggas That's these niggas I don't got nothing to do with this

I mean I would say Onyx Onyx? Onyx was bigger to me Alright You're supposed to take a shot Yes Yeah but Onyx

Shout out to both Slam Slam That was a big break Shout out to both slam That was crazy So your guns it was like shocking the way it came out, right? Oh, yeah, like if I could just kill a man the way that came out like you like what the fuck? But that's not sleep on the next cool people in the business Yeah Fuck. But that's not Sleep On. The next cool people in the biz. Oh, my little man.

Keep your head up. Yeah, we just... Different feel. That's a good versus right there. I think it's a low voice. I would think so. Okay. Now, this is where it get tricky. Tupac or DMX?

Pac. Pac? Pac? I just explained to you how Pac... Tupac Or DMX Pac Pac I just explained to y'all Can't go to Yonkers no more I just explained to y'all That Pac is And you never met him you said right Never met him

That's wild But Pac to me Is something else Right And you always liked Pac though? Always Like even when he The first album

Always I just remember I remember when DMX When I was first doing DMX I used to tell BJ I said this nigga's like Pac And BJ's a super Pac fan He's like nigga

Fuck that Damn He was like that nigga's not Pac Get the fuck out of here Damn He was like That nigga's not Get the fuck out of here And I was like This nigga's like Pac Which he is

But There's no Pac Right There's just I agree with everything you say He's like Pac But there's no Pac There's no Pac

And there's no DMX Yeah there's no DMX Neither though Listen He was riding in the limo He seen some white dudes part, but there's no part. There's no part. And there's no DMX. Yeah, there's no DMX neither, though. Listen. Yeah. He was riding in the limo. He sees some white dudes beating up some black dudes. He jumps out. Yo, get the fuck off

or whatever. They pull a gun out on him. That should have been the end of the night. These guys got pistols. He goes back to the limo. Man, give me my gun. It was a Black Panther shit. And blast them. They happened to be police.

It was unconfirmed. Yeah, yeah. That's what he got off on. He beat that case. Yeah, he beat that. No one's Pac. I don't know no rapper that's doing that. But DMX mine with his jaw locked.

X was loud too. Yeah, with his jaw locked. X was locked too. Yeah, with his jaw locked. He was through the wire before Kanye was. Yeah. I mean, X is a monster, yo. X is a monster, but I just, you know, Pac is just different, man. Pac is different. You're going Pac.

I was trying to convince you different. You're going Pac. I was trying to convince you. But you're going Pac. Damn, I lost that shit. Easy E or Nipsey Hussle? I got to go Easy. Because without Easy, there's no Nipsey. Easy E sparked

the whole West Coast revolution. Easy. Easy E sparked the whole gangster situation in the West Coast. And that nigga said, Ice Cube, write the rhymes, that I say. He straight up said it.

Fuck. He kept it all the way real. Yo, word. He said, Ice Cube, write the rhymes, that I say. That's crazy. I always listen to that shit like, yo, niggas ain't say shit to him. No one pulled him to the side. It was his record company.

He was getting all the money. He was financing everything. He was getting all the money. It's hard to sell. You ain't writing your rhyme. You ain't doing nothing. Nigga, I got the check. All right.

All right. That silences people. All right. Okay. Trap called Crest or Brand Newbie? Trap. I knew you was going to say that.

You a Queens nigga for real. Doggy style or the chronic? Chronic made set up doggy style. So, I'll say chronic. Okay.

You'd rather be feared or loved? Loved. Okay. Loyalty or respect? Loyalty. You want to explain that? I mean, with loyalty,

the respect is there already because someone is loyal. I just hold someone being loyal in a bigger regard and them respecting me. Wow.

I ain't gonna lie. It feels like the more money you got, the more you talking like Lee Hall right now. You talking like... You know what's funny? Seven was at my crib. I got a big crib in that.

Yeah, yes. New money crib. New money crib. Outrageous. He was like... Does your blinds open when you say, open the blinds? When I ask a button, no. Oh, a button.

Okay, all right. Cool, cool, cool. No blinds. Yeah got that shit? Oh, button, okay, all right, cool, cool, cool. No blinds. All right, cool, no, uh-huh. But, uh, Seven was like, nigga was just looking at me, he was like,

yo, there's something different about you. And I was just like, that money does, it does change you a little bit. Wants to check clear. Absolutely. You know. You're a different nigga. No, because what happens

is, if you got $100 million, you could probably make $5 million a year interest without touching your wealth. So it's like, I'm good. I'm still doing shit, but I'm good.

I'm good. Like, whatever comes my way or whatever like that, now it's like I just have a feeling of I'm good. And you brought your sons an AP. Can we check out your AP sir? God damn it. What's that? Oh sure, but what is that a dumb the blue face It's called a brick the brick. That's what I'm talking about the brick and he got your son the 50th anniversary Yeah, but they all got APs. You know how hard that 50th anniversary is to get?

They gave that to your son. I mean, I got a great connect. I know Francois, who's the AP owner of AP. So who'd it call? Francois? You know what's so crazy about this? You know how hard it is to get this watch?

Yes, I do. It's like AP is crazy. You walk into AP. And you're getting retail. You're not going to a nigga named Johnny. Retail. Okay. Retail. Francois you're going to.

I like Francois. Francois, he be on the go Francois Francois He be on the go But Francois tells him Takes care of my guy I think that's Biggs fuck with him too Biggs told me about him I call him pumpkin

Okay pumpkin Holy shit I ain't call another girl Man pumpkin with you I ain't gonna lie I'ma stick with the Francois You know with these watches Like I paid

This was a buck Right You know I could sell this on the street For a quarter of a million Yeah yeah yeah 225 easy Easy Yeah yeah I could sell it for you

So I had hooked up my man And got him Retail Retail Retail is where to go And you know he fell on some hard times And he sold it

Don't you know I got in mad trouble For that shit Oh yeah They take you off the list Oh you ain't know that They said Irv What the fuck is the watch

We sold you doing On 47th street Oh no Not on 47th The Diamond District Not even Tito Or Pristine They said

What is the watch They said I said Joe They said Irv We sold you that what is the watch? I said, Joe. They said, Irv, we sold you that watch. So I came clean. I said, Joe, it was for my friend. And, you know, I think he fell on some hard times.

He had to sell the watch. But because I was so cool with Francois, but they was. They kicked you off the list for that. They was not. Yeah. You know how hard it is to get on that list? That's rich people problem, bro. Yeah, yeah. Even people that's getting money. Like, you got to go that. They was not. Yeah. You know how hard it is to get on that list? That's rich people problem, bro. Yeah, yeah.

Even people that's getting money, like, you got to go, and it was crazy, you got to go have coffee. I don't even drink coffee. Like, you got to go have coffee, sit down with them. I thought you were a coffee connoisseur now.

No, no, I'm not a coffee connoisseur now. Like, the coffee makes the zero cream shit, and I go there, so I got to go to Pat Tech tomorrow, and I'm going to bring

my own creamer. You know what I mean? Like, yo, yo, yo, but you got to sit down with them. You got to going to bring my own creamer. You know what I mean? Like, yo, yo, yo, but you gotta sit down with them. You gotta, like, it's a relationship. You know what's crazy? Yo, yo, yo. He got some bread. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

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But if you want to get down with Richard You want to get down That's what you got to do A motherfucker won't even put in a year In the motherfucking rap game If they ain't getting that check immediately, like, the loyalty process they put you through is crazy, bro.

It's crazy. I'm sorry. I went too far. They definitely on some bullshit with AP. Right. I'd be like, yo, it's a watch. This is, no, no. Yes.

No. No, because everything is six. That's serial numbers, right? Only people that don't know is Rolex, because Rolex makes a million watches, No because Everything is Serial numbers right Only people that don't know Is Rolex Because Rolex makes A million watches a year These niggas make

A hundred Of certain pieces And they're numbered I'm assuming So yeah If he had a Yeah No they're numbered

They're numbered They got numbers I'm pretty sure When they sold When he sold them the AP And the 47th Street Took it, they called AP immediately. Yeah, to verify. Yep.

Whatever papers it is, it leads to that person who hooked you up. I wouldn't know you buying a watch from me. Because that's the reason why boxing papers, those papers, guys, whatever it is, who led to you, if it's official, whoever who led to you, it leads right there. I know, but how do they know that I got it? Because they didn't know the guy had it. They know it got sold. Before you get it, it goes through a whole process. And I'm saying, look, okay, Mr. Lee thinks he's sick.

He's going to flip it to BJ. He gave it to somebody. He's going to flip it to BJ. I bought it for my man. They got CIA, baby. Yeah, nah, it's real. It's real. It's real.

I'm the first to have heard of this,'s real Only people who don't care is Rolex Because Rolex makes, they produce so many watches That they'll be like, alright, cool You can tell them, like, yo, this is for my man BJ And they'll be like, alright, cool No, no, no, no, no If you tell them you sell it You got it retail, and then you sell it

Oh, yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean Everyone should care Alright, let's get back So, Gotti, did you know that you put Shanti and Nelly back together? I want to touch on this. Yes. Right? Because you don't know something.

I don't know nothing. I am clean. I am Geneva Convention. Last time I was here, I was heated. Okay. Yeah, we noticed. You didn't have the honey yet No

I didn't have the honey You're mad now Okay And what you What you guys Don't get with Ashanti Mm-hmm Ashanti

We don't know Ashanti has like Not a beehive But something similar Right Mm-hmm And her beehive Was on your ass

Me? Mm-hmm Yeah Forget about it But something similar. Right. And her beehive. What's on your ass? Me? Yeah, me too. Forget about it. If I say or do anything, but where I got to hold you to the flame. Hold me to the flames, brother. I got to hold him to the flame. Hold me to the flame. Because he's my man.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Right? Uh-huh. So if you remember, the last time I was on here, he was like cracking jokes, basically saying, you still got feelings for this girl.

And I'm like, Nori doesn't know this, but this is the worst shit he could be saying right now. But he did it. No, but you wore her watch. That's the reason why, though, God, you wore the watch

that she bought you. Fuck? But most men who don't give a fuck will get rid of a chick that he's messing with watch and get rid of it. That's a dope-ass watch. It's very true. I wanted to buy it off of you.

The Pearl Master. That was hard. The Pearl Master. I wanted it. Tri-color. Rose gold. Platinum. Yeah, yeah.

That's fine. That's the original one. I got the I'm wearing that Yeah I didn't know It was So I'm wearing it

Yeah So when I complimented him On the watch I didn't know that It was actually a gift Given to you So that's the reason why No

No Let it finish man The problem was Okay You validated To the world Like I still had feelings for this girl. Yeah, I said that, yes. Okay.

Uh-huh. Nori, you've been around me a little bit. Not like that, like that. I don't know. Have you ever heard me talk about this girl? No, absolutely. Obviously not. No.

I don't. Like, she's done. Right. She's fucking done with me. Yes. No one's sitting around thinking, and, you know, y'all be like, oh, but she still looks great.

You ain't wonder when you seen that last picture. A little. It sounds just like us. To which I say, like, I'm not, fuck it, you Fucking Talking about Ashanti So when you say that No I said it

Because you're my man And you're like Oh you still look like You got feelings Remember when he said that Yeah I did I mean he was fucking with you He was fucking with you

Yeah And he did not know Listen Yeah I didn't know I didn't know what was going to do that Alright watch this Nobody knows how The public's going to read it

But I could honestly say It just now start dying down. These motherfuckers, I'm like, yo, y'all. It's about to come back. It's about to be up again.

DMs. Hold on. DMs, comments. Oh, you still love her Wait, wait, wait They'll post a picture of Ashanti And Nelly And all the comments will be like

Her's punching the air You know we didn't even understand No, no, no I'm going to take a shot to punch in the air What is these people doing? But I said I was mad at Norris Yes, he was

He was not Because He helped validate And fuel it Okay Because he Didn't know Man

Yes But it was Rasta Who does the trailers I just want to I know He's trying to Crosswalk I'm not in charge of that

He sent it to Revolt Revolt sent it out I just mean I want it to the next episode And when I did see it I did No he's like

You let that slide No but you know what I'm going to be honest I'm going to be honest You know how many people How many men Related to that And I know you are over

You were over I know that It was a joke at the time. But if you look at the actual comments, like, yo, I ain't over my shorty neither. Like, it was a lot of men. Like, by the way, by the way.

You're trying to make this hilarious. No, I'm just being honest. Look at the comments though. I'm not them. No, no, no, no. We know that. But what I'm saying is, I'm sitting on a hundred.

There's so many men in this world who are in love with a woman, right? And they let her go or someone else get her and they haven't got over it. So you was the leader of them niggas. We're like... You are the leader! You are the leader!

For like six months, they was like, go ahead, Gotti! You're the leader! They won't get to have your back! They're just going to go ahead! What is that? They're barking at him with that? You're the leader! I was the leader of the niggas still in love with a girl who don't want to fuck her. You hear this, nigga?

No. I was the poster child for the nigga who's still in love with a bitch who don't fuck her. Did you not see the comments? There were comments like, God, you made it up, too. We were getting fucked up, too.

Not as bad as me. One of the things that took a twist was a person that you call your brother, a person that I call my brother, when you and him had some words after that, I believe it was Fat Joe, and I believe he said that he didn't like

what you was doing, like, as if... And a lot of people don't know. A lot of people didn't watch the whole episode. Rue was telling you to chill out. He was like, yo, chill, chill, chill. So a lot of people... I didn't like that. Yeah, we all drunk. That's why we sobered this one. This one, we motherfuckers sobered. No excuse, but...

Did that throw you off? How did that take you Like you know what I mean Cause I know after the verses Fat Joe was my brother Right I do not feel Fat Joe is my brother

Anymore Anymore Yeah and I'm like I guess it's a cancer trait Some people Will call it a It's a sign You talking about cancer

Okay Because once you show me Who you are Right Or you speak Negatively about me It's a sign you're talking about cancer? Okay Because once you show me who you are Alright Or you speak Negatively about me Alright It's over

But his defense right His defense is His defense and Ja's defense Is they do shows with Ashanti and Oh that's a little silly But Rulu never come out and say, God, he's a sucker. Right.

Right. Like... Fat Joe... Yo, we should talk about the great fucking... Hold on, hold on. Let me get this thing. Listen. Fat Joe said, oh, God, he's a sucker.

I didn't think he was calling you a sucker. I thought he... What you mean? The situation. He said. He said, yo, God, he's a... He's a sucker. I didn't think he was calling you a sucker. I thought he... What you mean? The situation. He said, yo, God, he's a sucker. I need... I got to pull back and regress from that. Right.

Because if I was to go respond or anything with that, it could get crazy. Right. But then he also said you was his brother. He's, like,

I think he apologized to you. He didn't apologize. It was on something like, you know, if I'm your brother, I should be able to tell you when you're wrong. But my thing is like,

nigga, you don't... Did you ever get one call first? No. So... So, my thing is like, Nigga you don't You never get one call First No So So My thing is like Nigga you You don't even know

What went on with me And Nishanti You know what I'm saying So For you to say anything Is crazy Cause you don't know What the hell went on

With me and her Rule knew Rule knew He was there And then You know what I'm saying on with me and her. Rule knew he was there and, you know what I'm saying? That's why all my niggas, they never said nothing or whatever like that. But, you know,

it's all good. But y'all did see each other, right? You know it's some crazy shit. But y'all did see each other right before you get into the crazy shit? Y'all did see each other and y'all spoke. I seen a picture with y'all somewhere. I mean, that's true, right? Y'all did see each other right before you get into the crazy shit? Y'all did see each other and y'all spoke. I seen a picture of y'all somewhere. I mean, that's true, right? Y'all did see each other, right?

You and Joe. Yeah, we probably seen each other. I don't know about all that speaking. Oh, okay. I thought y'all did. My bad. It's a funny, it's a weird thing when you have family. I'm going to say some shit.

Come on, let's go. That's kind of weird. Okay. But I don't really need friends. You know why? I really enjoy chilling with Nene. My mother. I really enjoy chilling with my family. I really enjoy being around the people who I know care and love for me the right way.

Right. I don't need you, nigga. I'm a sucker. You need to get away from me. All right. Well, anyway, what I'm saying is I have so much of a comfort with my family that I don't need extra people around me, y'all. I'm a very simple guy.

I will fucking be at home and chilling. And I'm very content. I got BJ, I got Darcelle, I got, youlle, I got, you know, a handful of people that I consider family. I don't need no extras.

So, you know, Fat Joe was once someone who I thought was family. I think he is your fan. I think he knows y'all kind of both was out of,

you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I believe, I believe it is. I believe, you know what it is? I'm going to be honest. I think you know Y'all crying to both Was that a You know what I mean Yeah yeah I believe I believe it is I believe You know what it is I'm gonna be honest I think

I'm gonna put I just kind of started Understanding what viral is What viral happens is What happens is this This clip will come out Are you Me

Talking about you and Ashanti Right So it'll come out On this station But then Five days later, other people would take other clips from that. And it seemed like it's a new thing.

But really, it's just the same clip. Just we, just... And always taking it out of context. So what it was, was that I believe you did a newspaper after Drink Champs. You did a newspaper, something else. And you did something else. And it seemed like you were just doubling down

on your story. So it seems like... The way it was released. Yeah, the way it was released, I'm just saying, as a person who plays media now, it seemed like he was everywhere saying that,

when really it was just one clip that kept going viral. So you know what I'm saying? I can see how he could have took that as the wrong thing. Like, damn, man, he just keeps this and Shawnee. No, no, no.

If you're friends, you call your friend and you tell him how you feel. Right. Right, yeah. You know what I'm saying That's not what friends do Right Alright

Okay If you do something And I think Nori did some foul shit Right I'm going to call Nori And say Nori Right And it's going to be

Between me and you Right You know what I'm saying It ain't for nobody else You know what I'm saying Like what are you doing So there's no explaining That shit is over and done

Yeah it's over and done You know what I'm saying? Moving on. Right, right. You said something before we started rolling, and if you don't want to talk about it, we can edit. But you were saying your family was telling you not to come here because of a health condition.

Because health is important for all of us. My boys and Angie, my daughter is like, my daughter is the illest protector of me. She'll fuck somebody up. Yeah. So... They just didn't want me drinking and smoking.

You know, my diabetes, my numbers been high. So they just wanted me to... He's like, Dad, You can't do drink champs I said yo I ain't going to drink or smoke Explain to somebody My bad for cutting you off

But explain to somebody Who don't have money Like you know You were talking about The money that you had The money that you made And you're still dealing with diabetes Does having money

Help you with diabetes Or that's no way It helps a little Because you can get a chef You you can get a nutritionist. Proper medical attention if you don't have money. So, yeah, money helps. Okay. Money helps with everything, dog.

I'd rather have money than not have money. Right. Because you know, and I realize that, the bank. You know, Bank of that The bank Bank You know Bank of America Morgan Stanley So they had this Meeting To tell me all of the things

That they could do to help me With the honey Yes Okay Yes And I was just like This is so fucked up How they care all of a sudden too

They was getting me They said we have the best doctors If you get sick like this is so fucked up. How they care all of a sudden too. They was getting me they said we have the best doctors if you get sick we'll get you the proper medical. I'm like so if you ain't got no bread it's fuck you. You're left for dead.

You got overdraft fees for you. No but that's fucked up. That's all they fees for you. No, but that's fucked up. They got overdraft fee protection. That's all they got for you. That's so fucked up. You got bread and all of these. You got more help.

You unlock shit. It's wild. You ain't got no bread. It's like, get the fuck out my office, dog. You're dying? Hurry up and die. Yo, it's crazy. Better get some money.

So what does that tell us? Get some bread, nigga. All right. So what is diabetes for a person that don't know? I don't fucking know. It's your sugar levels in your body right so that's the thing where people be like it's rampant with black people it's dangerous it's dangerous though all right and and what it does is it starts deteriorating your body all right And you good? You got it under control? No Oh wow

Oh wow Okay Because you've been diagnosed Or this is a recent thing? I've been diagnosed with diabetes forever Because it's like the smallest I've ever seen you It's hereditary Yeah

Okay I've been diagnosed with diabetes You have to do insulin? Time to time Not all the time But time to time Okay When all the time, but time to time. When my number gets too high, shot.

I heard that it's reversible. Yes, it's reversible, but it's really a diet thing. You got to change the way you eat. Like be a vegan? All that. But you know it's fucked up with diabetes. So anything that you're going to like or taste good, You're vegan? You got all that. But you know it's fucked up with diabetes. Uh-huh.

So anything that you're going to like or taste good, horrible for you. Mm-hmm. Fried chicken. Killer. Like carbohydrates are all sugar. Cupcakes. Killer. Liquor sugar.

Now what's some- Tuna fish sandwiches. What's some nasty shit? Rice cakes? Yeah, rice cakes. Rice cakes fish sandwiches. What's some nasty shit? Rice cakes? Yeah, rice cakes. Rice cakes? No, that's not good. Rice cakes is not a good idea.

Okay. Like broccoli. Spinach. I had some garlic broccoli last night. It was good. The garlic? Garlic's not good? Probably not.

Wow. So what the fuck do you eat? Cardboard? You're supposed to eat some leaves and some shit like that. You're playing, right? No, flavor, because everything got sugar. I told you,

if you fucking eat something and it tastes good, it's better. Even too much fruit is sugar, depending on the level of diabetes. Wow. So watermelon, you can't have no watermelon? I can have fruit But He has to watch

How much of the sugar Yeah I said watermelon Not fruit Watermelon is a whole different thing For black people This is why my kids get mad Because I'm telling them Like yo I'm going to live

Right Like y'all motherfuckers Want me to die Right And not enjoy life I'm going to enjoy, motherfuckers want me to die and not enjoy life. I'm going to enjoy life and do certain shit. No, dad, but you can't do that. I'm like, all right, stop me.

Because it's like I got to live. So, yeah, I'm going to have the fucking watermelon. Watermelon, goddamn, makes me want to live. But what you're supposed to do, exercise. Right. Right. You want to go see Russell in Bali?

No. In Bali? In Bali. Why not? He still out in Bali? Yeah. He out there running rapid. Running rapid?

Running rapid? Oh, no. It's Rosalie. Well, he's in Bali because of all the bullshit. Running rampant Running rampant Oh no It's Ruffie Well he's in Bali Because of the bullshit Right He don't hold back nothing man He's in Bali

Because of the bullshit Yeah Russell's like He's probably seen What they did to Harvey Weinstein He said nah nigga Not me Russell didn't get found guilty of nothing

He didn't what He didn't get found guilty of nothing. He didn't what? He didn't get found guilty of nothing. He never went to trial. That says a lot. That says a lot. He's in Bali, nigga. But he's come back, though.

He's come back multiple times. In and out. Right. Yeah. Now, Russell ain't got no warrants. He ain't out here. Yeah, because he wouldn't

be able to come in the country if he had warrants. Oh. Now, he couldn't. That's why I said He could not Cause we know You was cool with R. Kelly DJ R. Kelly right Make some noise for Robert

Make some noise for Robert Musical genius Musical genius You ever seen him Finger pop something Who you talking about I'm gonna tell you something It's this fucking Great movie You ever seen them finger pops on? Who you talking about? I'm going to tell you something, though, right?

It's this fucking great movie that my man directed. Oh, yeah. What's the name of it? Made in fucking America. Okay, is Robert Kelly in there? It's Robert... I wish. I just want to go tell you. I just want to go tell you.

I wish. Hear the ticket sales go through the roof. You got it? You got it? Yeah, I mean, the movie is great man It's a great hip hop movie What's the premise of the movie? The premise of the movie is basically Jay Z And I'm basically Telling the story and showing how

Young black men Selling drugs And then they flip The drug money to start young black men selling drugs. And then they flip the drug money to start a record company. So it's really a triumphant story about how to make it in America. Oh, now the title makes sense. Yeah. Make it in America. Yeah, yeah.

It's about two brothers. They're selling drugs And one of the brothers Is a rapper You know And they use the drug money To help promote And push His music

He gets a big record deal At the end They won They made it in America Both brothers It's an everyone story almost. American hip hop. Technically an American story

because that's been all the richest people in America going back. The Kennedys going back to Ford. All these people bootlegging. They all made it off of E. Lee. I touch on that in the movie. I touch on the fact that... Rockefellers.

I said Ford. I don't think Ford. When you look at the Kennedys, that Rockefellers I said four I don't think four When you look at the Kennedys The Rockefellers Their families is With the shits Kennedys was bootlegging Bootlegging yeah

The father The father He was a bootlegger He was a gangster He was the mob You might show a misser And then they Now they turned it clean Yeah He was a bootlegger. He was a gangster. He was the mob, yeah. You might show a misser. And then they,

now they turned it clean. Yeah. I touch on that in the movie about how they kind of showed us the way. That's uniquely American. You see the Kennedy that's running for president right now? You see the Kennedy

that's running for president right now? Yeah, yeah. I don't trust him at all. I actually like him. I actually like him. You can add on jeans. Nah, I don't want to meet you. Nah, nah. Nah at all. I actually like him. I actually like him. Nigga had on jeans. Nah, I don't want to meet you. Nah, nah.

Nah, nigga. I'm prejudiced. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, nigga. I want you to be sooner than booty, nigga. What the fuck you mean? He said, yo,

you should do Kenny. He said, yo, I don't trust him. Nah. I'm just coming here trying to look like me. I don't like it. I don't like it.

And he's doing podcasts like it And he doing podcasts And he doing podcasts He did yeah He actually get on drink chats I said Nah let's have him on What the fuck Okay you do it

I'm in I'm in That's the day I'm calling out I'm in I'm in Me and Sonny D Nah nah I'll come I'll come I'll come

Yo Sogati At one point We were talking about Doing a Murder Inc. tour Right Okay. Yo, Sogati. I have a question. At one point, we were talking about doing a Murder, Inc. tour. Right? That ain't gonna happen. Not anymore? Shanti. Because you see, like, I went to the Nas and the Wu-Tang concert.

And what I tell you, man, I'm talking about, it was sold out. That tour was incredible. The tour was incredible incredible And it's like These guys They don't even have records In the past 10 years I mean Nas does With the albums

But they're not performing This new material All this material Is all these And I'm And it Vintage shit And it's like

It's such a beautiful thing You don't think Murder Inc. Rough Riders Could probably recreate that 100% I just don't have any confidence that Ashanti would do it.

Just Ashanti? Is Lloyd allowed back? Yeah. Who? Yeah, with X, is that Denton Rough Riders. Oh, yeah, so, okay, say it. But let me tell you something,

Murder Ring could sell out, they'd do it themselves, if it's all of them. Right let me tell you something. Murder Ring could sell out a ring. They'd do it themselves. If it's all of them. Right. So would you let them do it without you? Yeah. Okay. I mean, I'm not.

You got a hundred, nigga. You good? I'm not performing. And he sold everything. Yeah. You know, when people talk about the masses, just to touch on this for one second. Yes.

And they're like, oh, you should give your artists, you know, their masters. No. Because that's how I make my money. Like Ja, Ashanti, millions of dollars they make every year. I don't get a dime of that. To my show money? Yeah. Okay.

I don't get one one fucking penny of that. Alright. So the only thing that I have that I can sell to get me a check is those masters.

And you want to take that from me? But do they get pieced off after you sell them? Or? I pieced Ja. Ja got a seven-finger check. When I sold,

Ja got a seven-finger check. And, you know. But that's it. Only Ja. I don't know whether you make some noise for that or not. Yeah, make some noise for that. Make some noise for that.

Is every other artist going to hear this and be like, well, Gotti, where's mine? You ain't fucking Ja. That was his prerogative. You ain't fucking Ja. Ja held that motherfucker down. It's murder. I see you got the new paddock too I seen that I'm watching

But you know they could still Like cause I was like They could all go Ja Ashanti, Lloyd, Charlie Black Child Fucking Caddy That would be a dope tour

they could put on like a two hour show between all of them hour and a half y'all letting Caddy come back on? yeah so for a record do we ever believe

Prodigy's book? yeah yeah what I believed it you believed what Prodigy did I seen Prodigy at Club Griffin after the book

yeah okay continue and it was it was funny because I was in there I was mobbed up at Cujo and Prodigy

I came over and seen me as Joe or We Cool and I said, is there any problem? I said, nigga, I ain't even thinking about you, nigga.

All right. But I said, yo, let me ask you a question. I said, that shit you wrote in the book, was it real? He said, yeah.

And Jamal, the particular, the, um... Nobody knows what you're talking about Except you The Cadillac tie Just FYI Yeah yeah

If y'all want to keep it like that I don't know I don't know what the fuck Y'all talking about Prodigy wrote a book Prodigy wrote a book And he said I know the book

But I don't know the passage And he's saying that The Cadillac tie Like gave up the address To the studio Or some shit like that right He let He let niggas know

Where we was at Right And it was crazy because that night that the bullshit happened, after it happened, we was always like,

how the fuck these niggas knew where we was at? Because I believe it was my birthday and we was bouncing around from club to club.

So for them to catch us that night was very weird. But I don't blame Caddy. He was under pressure. Forgive him. He's a weak nigga. Everyone can't be strong.

Right. But forgiveness is godly. And you say you forgive him. I mean, I ain't thinking about it. Right. I ain't thinking about it. All't thinking about it Go ahead take a shot That's that bread

Right that's that bread That honey milly Have you seen Nelly Since you had the honey milly Me and Nelly Since you had the honey milly I don't know Cause you know

You're a different swag I ain't got the honey milly Like Listen Me and Nelly Seen each other We laughed We talked

If you ask me about Nelly I would consider Nelly My friend Right Dope I have no problems with Nelly I wish him all the best That's right That's right

That's right Get out of it Thanks, sonny So how about Are you Are you gonna like Lay down with one woman Is it gonna be

The one woman Gotti You know what That is like You've been talking about Fucking bad bitches This whole time I would love

To have one bad bitch That's With me 100% I just don't think it's out there For me I think I'm I think I'm putting my level Yeah you gotta have a prenup

Off top Oh nigga Oh nigga NDOs NDOs NDAs? NDOs? Nigga. NDOs? You lost 99.99. NDAs?

Yeah, that's what I meant. You know what I meant. I'm going to have an L prenup, nigga. An L prenup. Yeah, yeah. And you know, chicks, chicks, they be rubbing me the wrong way and shit. You can't get me and you always asking for shit. Asking for money, asking for things,

because you know I got it. That's the fastest way to lose me. Oh, you a sugar daddy out here? No. You a zaddy out here? No? You're trying to like, you're a zaddy.

That's what they be calling him. That's what they be calling him, you know what I mean? If I show you, if I show you, I'm married, so I'll be just ear-slinging. If I show you the chick

that would die for me to be a sugar daddy This bitch is gorgeous Yo 26 year old Dominican Gorgeous You out here with

Otones Okay Okay Listen But is she worth 100 M No no Head listen

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She's a real one. Let's make some noise for her. $25,000. $65,000. Yo, let's take a look. Let's take a look. Let's take a look. Let's take a look.

Let's take a look. You started $25,000. She's a scholar. She's a scholar. Let me tell you something. I had no idea. You started $25,000. I had no idea he was going.

But that's why I consider it. Look at your face. No, you didn't consider it at all. No. He was like, go to Wilbur. I said, I said, Joe, you negotiated. No, I was going to go to twenty five thousand. I was like, where does she get off asking me for twenty five thousand?

And then in the back of my head, I'm like, this is the tip of the iceberg. If she's my girl, that bitch, she gonna ask, I need $100,000. Hermes. Chapar. I need $100,000. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, bitch, get out of here. That's crazy. My bitch get out of here That's crazy

My bitch get out of here Is immaculate I believe you Before you gonna Touch this money Before you gonna Separate Wait

I ain't Do all of this shit Get all of this money From my family To have some Bad bitch come around And just Start Siphoning it out That's never happening Yo for my family to have some bad bitch come around and just start

siphoning it out. That's never happening, yo. Bitch, get the fuck out of here. Very quick. So that's why I just, I don't think it's in the cards for me. I don't know if I could find

someone who I'm going to be attracted to that's like a nice, good person. All right. So you're saying you got your guard up all the time? You have to. Okay. I learned to do that from you.

And even if your guard is down, once she asks for $25,000. Okay, yeah. It's different. Once she asks for $25,000, guess what's coming up? The guard. But let me ask you. Did she have, like, was her grandmother dying or something? No.

No. She said she wanted it for her school, her college tuition. Come on. Come on. That's a good girl. That's a good girl, man. Come on. M.I.U.

M.I.U. I thought she wanted butt surgery or something. No. Hey. Hey. Okay. He wanted it for the next guy. Dude, he was supposed to be the secretary and go to the college or something. Nah. Okay. He wanted butt surgery. He's supposed to be the secretary and go to the college.

Let me see. Let me see the grades. She said she wanted to open up a spa. A spa. She needed to go to school. Oh, I respect her. That already sounds fine. Oh, yeah?

Give her a massage. They don't be doing that? Yeah. Open up a spa just sounds like the thing someone would say to get some bread. No. What's going to happen, you give her the $25,000, she finishes school, she says,

I told you I want to open a spa. I need a quarter of a million. Right. The start of capital for the spa. But then she makes you $25 million. You ain't looking at that side. With the spa? With the spa.

You never know. You shouldn't start a relationship with investments. Hey, I'm just asking. I'm just trying to be the devil's advocate. Jay, what do you believe? She don't really want to open up a spa.

Nah, she don't want to open a spa. She wants to go to the spa. She wants to take a steam bath. She wants to take a steam bath. She's like, I got to learn on the job. She ain't taking a steam bath by herself. Sonny, you going to be there?

No. There's going to be somebody. We'll show you the drink filler be there? No, man. But it's gonna be somebody. You know what I'm saying? It's a drink filler. What's up, man? What's up, man? Yeah, that's Jamie. Let's make some noise for Jamie. Jamie!

We have to have female around. It's too much testosterone. Cheers, cheers. It's too much testosterone. I'm feeling my drinker. I thought it was done. Yeah, you got a drink for God. You got a drink for God.

It's never done when Jamie's around. I think that's me in you today. It's crazy. So, you know, seeing the moves that, like, Jay-Z has been making, seeing the moves that you have been making, do you think that hip-hop ever, like, I know it's a cliche type of question, do you think that hip-hop would ever, like, come this far? You know what I'm saying? That's crazy, yo.

Hip-hop. I love hip-hop so much. 50 years. 50 years is wild. But I love hip-hop so much because it just changed. It's changed all of us. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

And not only did it change us, it changed our way of thinking. You know, niggas ain't thinking about selling drugs right now. Right. I know YouTubers right now that's making more money than drug dealers. Right. YouTubers. No one is thinking about selling drugs or even if you're a drug dealer, you're thinking I'm going to do

this and then get out and do this. So I just love hip hop. I just love hip hop with a passion. Hip hop is done. Hip hop is done more for us black people than anything else. Than any president that ever been involved. I mean, more than sports, more than things. Because sports, you know, you got to be athletic.

You got to be this. Hip hop, you could be a manager or you could be an engineer. Different entry points. Yeah, it's like, it's beautiful. I can tell you, he get a lot of money. He just talking so soft.

He's just like, yo, but listen, let me say, so Nas had dropped his documentary on Showtime. It was about the premium team. So I believe that he dropped it. I don't remember It was about the Preem team. So I believe that he dropped it. I don't remember if he dropped it all at once

or if it was... No, I think it was episodes. It was episodes, so it was in parts. So I watched it. I remember one of the very important things to me was to see Irv there. You know what I'm saying? I got Nas' number.

I could have texted him and it could have blew up the surprise. But I actually stood there and I watched it. Was that important for you to be a part of that? I mean, I'm very protective of Supreme and the Supreme team.

But he obviously had to have permission. Okay. And I've been a part of Supreme and everything of that nature where I feel shit like that is mine. Right. So Nas, he's smart.

All right. He backdoored it. I don't know what you mean. He said this last time. He went to Prince. Oh, he went to Prince. Oh, I didn't know that. Nas went to Prince. Oh, he went to Prince. Oh, I didn't know that. Nas went to Prince.

He didn't go to Supreme. Oh. Because Supreme would have said, yo, got it, nigga. What the fuck did you talk about? But isn't that like going to BJ? No. No? Because my relationship with Prince is a great relationship.

I love Prince. But it's not like Prime or it's not like BJ. Right. Like, Nas couldn't have went to BJ. BJ was like, what? Get the fuck out of here, man. All right. That's our shit. All right.

Okay. You understand? To a certain extent. Let me get a blank. Boris? Prince is in prison. Oh, so is Pring. Yeah, but me get a blank. Boris? Prince is in prison. Oh, so is the Supreme. Yeah, but there's a difference.

Okay. If you're going to dangle $150,000 at Prince, you're going to take it. Okay. Fast. But, okay. Let me play devil's advocate, right? Because we're all from Queens. Although this is your direct linearities, right?

I'm trying to say that word right. You know I'm a special educator. You know direct linear is, right? I'm trying to say that word right. You know I'm a special educator. You know what I meant, right? But we all kind of feel attached to that story. It's like anybody from Harlem, you could be from 110 Street, but you're going to relate to that Rich Porter, you know what I'm saying, AZ story. You know what I mean? Okay.

And he did do the research. You seen he had LL in the club. I felt like he did it from a fan perspective. It was a good job. And it was a great job. It was a great documentary. It was a good job. Is that something you thought you should have did?

Because I think you sort of alluded to that. I mean, I thought, dang, but, you know, we love Prince. So that's why I said he backdoored it. I thought thing, but, you know, we love Prince. Hmm. So, that's why I said he backed the audit. Right. He went and got Prince.

But he had Prima on the phone too, though, right? Yeah, once he got Prince. Okay. Okay. So,

once he got Prince, it was like, we ain't gonna hate on Prince. Right. And that's how he got it done. Right. Okay. I, I how he got it done. Right. Okay.

I seen the other day Preem's son. We had him on here. Instagram. And he said that there's a possibility that Preem's case will be overturned. Is that? He has some emotions. He's coming back to court. Going back to court. He's coming back. Okay. He gave some back already court he's coming back he gave some back already

he's coming back now the thing with Preem the last I heard was they was just trying to remove the life sentence so even if they gave him to remove the license. So even if they gave him 50 years or whatever,

he would be able to come out because the time served. How many years he got there? 19. 19. You fucking with Trump? What'd you say You fucking with Trump? What'd you say? You fucking with Trump?

I mean, I would if he... This nigga got dated more times than brain. I don't know, Alou. I mean... You fucking with him? I don't really think about it. Oh, yeah? I don't really think about Trump like that.

The only time I think about Trump is about Pring, man. If I could get next to him... That's what I'm trying to say. That's why I asked you if you fucking with Trump. Because he feel like he be like, fuck it. Let him out. Like on some nigga shit, like, yo. My man's from Brooklyn. My man Lou.

Word? Yeah. He passed before he left office. He parted Lil Wayne, Kodak Black? Yeah, he parted with my man Lou Hall Word? Yeah. He left before he left office. He parted with Lil Wayne, Kodak Black? Yeah, he parted with my man Lou Hall. Uh. Uh. That'll be ill.

That'll be the best day in the world. Day of the cream come on. All right. Yeah. Let's just make some noise for that. Thank you. So we talked about the Murder, Inked, and Toll. We talked about the book. We talked about... Murder, Inc. tour We talked about the book

We talked about Oh, not the book The Book of Hov Are you in that book? I don't know, I ain't see it And well, the famous rumor is That Dame Dash is removed From that book

Probably I don't think I don't think Jay likes Dame Damn, nigga You can put some salt on it. What? Did I say something that people don't know already? No, but I'll be honest. Because there's so many different stories that Leah's story has just recently circulated or whatever.

But listen, I don't want to get on that. I don't think I'm that good of a media guy. But did you ever think that in the beginning when you see their chemistry, I'm talking about the three, you know what I mean? Because, you know,

Big's got, he fucks with Jake Chaps as well. But Big's, Dame, and Jake, like when I used to see them, it used to be so tight. I never thought that this would happen. Did you see this day coming?

He would have saw it before anybody. Back then. He was in it. I mean, remember what I said. Jay didn't need nobody. Right. Jay don't need nobody.

So you really don't think that Dame had anything to do with the success? You didn't say that No no I'm asking I mean it's kind of a question Right I remember Dame fighting for the artist I remember that Because regardless of how you feel about the person Whatever they did should be credited

He started Rockefeller with Jay and things, so he should get credited. I'm saying the making of the records. And the studio sessions? Clark Kent was there. I don't know. What do you want me to say? He said it.

No, that's it. He said after they made it Jay didn't need Jay didn't need nobody Jay didn't say Jay wasn't important Jay was picking the beat Jay was rapping over the beat He gave Jay his credit for

It was all hove Right Jay was along for the ride Great ride It was a great ride That's like saying You know what that's like saying Do you

Oh dude Does Irv need BJ to No nigga Alright You know what I'm saying No It could have been somebody else there Right

You know what I'm saying Right I'm here I'm along for the ride Right But luckily I'm a loyal motherfucker And this is my man And I learned some shit

And I know where to be in my place So I'm still here Right You know what I'm saying loyal motherfucker, and this is my man, and I learned some shit, and I know where to be in my place. So I'm still here. All right. You know what I'm saying? All right. So that's it. Did you get a chance to see the Brooklyn Museum? We created Baseline.

Did you see it on the gram, though? I seen it on the gram. That was crazy. All right. Was you a part of Baseline? What was your favorite studio? Mine. Crack House.

Crack House. Prior to that, Hip Factory, Sony, Right Track, Unique, D&D? I liked Right Track. Right Track, Gold Doors, 47th Street. Duro, that was- Parking lot across the street. Duro. Duro.

Duro. That's right, my man. I call, what's my man name? Young Guru, I said, don't ever forget you little Duro. Yo, that's my man name? Young Guru. I said, don't ever forget you little duro. That's my man, Young Guru. That's my man, Young Guru. So one thing that I listen to when I hear the pledge, right?

I hear Nas, he's on there. I hear this different type of energy. Like I had to listen to it today. I just had to go back into it, right? And then Nas, he says murder. I don't know if he specifically says murder, but he says murder, right? Nah, he said it.

What did he say? He said at first it was me, Nas. I stand alone. Now it's murder. It's murder, yes. He's pledging allegiance, nigga. I stand alone. Now, it's murder. It's murder, yes. He's pledging allegiance, nigga. I'm dealing. I'm not sure,

because when I listen to it again... Well, hindsight... Listen. Hindsight is 20-20. It'll two-step. It's two-step. He started with this way, and it went back.

Because you know what's crazy? The second verse, who shots out Suge Is it Rue Rue It's Rue who shots out Suge And it's just like And I just remember

Me first hearing it I couldn't Read it When I listened to it today I said get out of Miami Nori Get the fuck out of Miami This is not how you're Supposed to listen to this

Put your fucking mind Back on the R train So I put my mind Back on the R train. So I put my mind back on the R train, the 7 train, the G train, the E train. And when I listened to it, I was like, this is a threat. Like, this is like, if you, you know what I'm

trying to say? To the music industry. Like, this is like, yo, look, we got Nas, and then we shout out Shug, like. What happened here? It scared the shit out of Nas And he ran for the hills I heard there's a famous meeting with you and Steve Stout And Steve Stout told you

You gotta talk to Nas About Africa and not owning a record label No Steve Stout was like Stop talking to him about money and power and all of this shit. He was like, Nas just wants

street cred and a free trip to Africa. Not sure if Stout was right. No, he basically... At any age, right? No, he basically,

he knew Nas. Okay, at that time. And he basically was like, you're scaring him. All right. Because I was. Like, me, when Nas was in the crack house, I was like, you're scaring him. All right. Because I was. Like, me,

when Nas was in the crack house, I was like, nigga. Crack house is the studio, guys. Yeah. And this is when we was high. Yeah. I'm high as fuck. Exit seat out.

Out. Right? Yes. Exit seat out. And I'm sitting there. Guy used to be like this. I'm like, you got them dicks. Let me get one.

Grinding,inding my teeth Grinding the teeth Right so I'm telling I'm telling motherfuckers You missed out nigga I'm telling Nas nigga We gonna

I said we gonna get Three tour buses We gonna rap you Ja Ashanti I said, we're going to hitch a Rolls Royce, a Ferrari, a Bentley

to the back of the tour bus. This is when he was like, okay, I'm not fucking with these niggas. And I said, Joe, we hit Baltimore, right? So we got to show them Baltimore tonight. Before we go to the show,

we're going to hit the hood. And I said, we're going to ride through. Because I was like, yo, hood niggas is going to go crazy. Imagine, nigga, me, Nas, Ja, fucking Ashanti. And we pulling up in Rolls Royces

and eating fried chicken in the hood. Everywhere in Baltimore is the hood. Right, but that's a moment. You can just walk outside your hotel. Anyone who gets

a glimpse of that is never forgetting that. Right, it's true. It's changed almost. So Nas was like, yo, I hear you, but... Damn, you sound just like him right now.

He was like, no, I hear you, but what if we get killed? Being in the hood like that. All right. This is when I lost. All right. I said, if we get killed, then we martyrs, nigga. I said, were you killed? I said, then we marred us,

nigga. I gotta feel it. Yeah, you'd have lost me too. I believe you. Yeah, that's a little. I said,

yo, then we marred us, nigga. Cause marred us means like blow yourself up, right? No, marred us just means

you died. Yeah, you was scaring me too. Yeah. And you was on Ecstasy at the time? You probably meant it too. You was like,

Ecstasy death wishes time? Yeah, that sounds like... You probably meant it, too. You was like... Ecstasy, death wishes. Nigga, that's just... But blow me up first. Give me the glow sticks. Nigga, what I was talking about would have been some once-in-a-lifetime legendary shit. Right.

No, definitely. Just imagine for one second you pull up in Miami and we in Dade County Or we at You know what I'm saying Opelika or whatever Eating some fucking

Po'boy Or some shit like that And it's Nas, Rule, Ashanti, Gotti And niggas we got Fucking Rolls Royces And not only that But we at The arena tonight

Niggas I was just trying to I was just trying to do something that's never been done before. And I said, yo, we're going to have security. It's going to be 50 niggas. Niggas want to get nasty, we get nasty. So this nigga was looking. Yeah, I lost him. All right.

I was like, then we martyrs, nigga. All right. And the nigga ruled back at you. Yeah, I lost him. All right. I was like, then we martyrs, nigga. All right. And the nigga ruled backing me up. He ruled smoking a blunt. He said, hell yeah, fuck that.

Ready to cry. Yeah, rules with me a thousand percent. He was like, nigga, fuck death. All right.

We ain't even worried about that. That's when I lost him. Yeah, sounds like y'all got a little too deep. I was taking this rap shit too far. And this is after the indictment, after they rushed your offices? It's after or it's before, Brian?

I forget the time frame. You beat the motherfucking feds. Let's make some noise for that. Nobody beat the motherfucking Feds. Nobody beats the Feds. When you're looking at the Young Thug case, from the information that you know, what are you thinking? I feel for Thug because

I don't think the people around him was built for it. Right. But Kevin Lyles put up a million. He said he put up a million for his belt. That's because 300 is in the shitter right now, man. His whole, you know, Gunna came back out there and, you know, Gunna put some music out and they gave money.

But, you know, he misses Thugger, yo. He needs Young Thug. He was a special artist. Hell yeah misses he misses Thugger, yo. He needs a young Thug. He was a special artist. Hell yeah. I like Thugger. You know what I'm saying? I like Thugger. You met him? I met him before, yeah. Okay. I met him before and I like the dude.

Like, I like Thugger. But besides Thug, who's a young artist you would like to work with that's out there popping? Lola Brooke? I don't really know, man. You don't know? Lil Durk? He ain't really new.

There's no artist that, like, gets me going that I'm like, oh, my God, I want to hear music from this nigga. Except Lazer. That's your new artist? I'm telling you, his... Now the EP and the soundtrack. He's featured on the soundtrack. On the soundtrack to the movie. And who does he remind you of?

What kind of artist? Him. But, you know, he sing, he rap. This guy's a monster talent. Him But You know He sing He rap These guys are monster talent Wow That makes Hit

Fucking records He like Lauryn Hill But the guy version Something like that Missy Missy Ellie But Lauryn Hill Or Drake

Lauryn Hill Drake He's gonna get the Drake comparison Alright Alright For sure You think Drake is the biggest artist in the game? Drake. Drake. He's going to get the Drake comparison. All right. All right. For sure. You think Drake is the biggest artist in the game?

A hundred percent. Yeah. But. What? What kind of sign language is going on here? I think Drake. I think Drake is the biggest artist. The best artist in the world.

But I do think it's time for someone else. It's Murder, Inc. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Roll up some more. I got more over here. Yeah, yeah. I'll ready to go. Boris, roll up some more. Boris, I got more over here. I'm going to take a break. Yeah, yeah. I'll go when you come back. But is it bigger than Hov?

Is Drake bigger than Hov right now? Uh, no. Hov is the Rolling Stones. So I just asked you if Drake is the biggest. I don't view Hov like how I view you Drake Drake still makes music over you know music What do you feel? Yeah? Oh, yeah, you don't think he got young guru and back of Malibu right now last time I spoke to hold he said God. I gave it gave it all I had He has it but He hasn't But I believe you said that

I'm out Why did he say that to you? I think he's tired of fucking making You tried to get him on a soundtrack or something? No, I wasn't asking for nothing He just let me know Like he's gave it all he's got Wow

I wasn't asking him for nothing Right Did he call you and say Yo, congrats on 100, nigga You're close No No You might not even know about this No, kid asking him for nothing. Did he call you and say, yo, congrats on 100, nigga, you're close? No. No.

You might not even know about this. No, shit. Jay ain't like that, though. Yeah, true. Yeah.

Nah, he ain't calling you up to congratulate you. When he see me, it may be like, nice, or something like that, but he ain't calling me up just to congratulate me

on getting some money no question on like so we're talking about the congratulation do you still

wanna sign new artists and you still wanna be when they're special and they make me feel it yes

okay that's all. Yes, and I'm still magical in the studio. Okay, you got a new artist. You were signed to one record label. Who are you going to first? As a distributor or whoever. They signed to you, the artist signed to you, but you got all these labels right now.

Who are you going to? A real good one universal republic would be the easiest choice okay universal republic that's where drake is on uh that's in the scope falls under that def jam falls under that would you consider them the best right now? I'm always going to be partial to Def Jam. I always would love murdering Def Jam. It just is right. I love the original Def Jam. I'll say the original, excuse me. Let me not say the original because that's not the original.

But the regime that I was a part of, Kevin Liles, Leo Combs, Julie Greenwald. Fat Kevin Liles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fat Kevin Louse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fat Kevin Louse, yes, yes. It's a difference. Yes, it's a difference, it's a difference. Tell me Kevin Louse,

Julie Greenwald, Mike Kaiser, Leo Combs, I said, right? Rob Love, Sam Cresco, like those all, all of that regime was my favorite.

Kathy, Leo's assistant, like all of that regime was my favorite. Caffey, Lior's assistant. All of that regime. I literally could do whatever the fuck. Randy Acker. Randy Acker's a part of that. Randy Acker's a part of it. Randy.

Drink Champs as well. That was my favorite regime as a record label. You said Rob Love? I said Rob Love. I did say Rob Love. I said Sam Kresko. I forgot who else. I'm forgetting.

I'm forgetting a couple of other people. Shante Bacon. Gabby Peluso. Gabby. I forgot forgetting a couple of other people. Shante Bacon. Gabby Peluso. Gabby. I forgot. Gabby. Who else? Shit.

That whole regime. Was that one of your... Janita Floyd. Okay. Was that one of your favorite regimes? Yeah, yeah. Absolutely, that was one of my favorite regimes. You would get that budget cut open.

Todd Moscares. Todd Moscares. Todd Moscares. He's a part of 300 now, right? They're all a part of, no. Yeah, he got a check. He was on the list of the people who got checks. Right, right.

Holy moly guacamole, man. Shit, man. What else? You got something? I always bring it up Every time you've been on But I'll keep reiterating So I get more information The Murder Inc. as a group

J, X, and Ja I probably keep asking The same question Did you guys have A bunch of records recorded? No records recorded None recorded Because I got some

As a mixtape DJ I got some dats Sent to me Labeled as that With some freestyles. Was that the extent of it? Those freestyles ain't the Murder Ring shit. The Murder Ring shit was just something that I wanted to do because JX and Ja was like my brothers. So it wasn't about money for me. wanted to do because JX and Ja was like my brothers. Right.

So it wasn't about money for me, it wasn't about anything. It was about me, J, X, Ja getting in the studio and serving it. That's all it was about. And what was the closest you got to actually seeing that through? Or was it never really going to happen? X was with it Jai was with it J wasn't with it I tried two times to make that album happen

X was with it Jai was with it Why you think J didn't want to be This is just my opinion Right? just my opinion, right? Just my opinion. I don't think Jay wanted to get in that room with X and Ja. One more than the other or both?

No, both. Both. Jay is a very smart person. He's going to do an album with R. Kelly. R. Kelly worships Jay-Z. Worships him. And Kanye West.

Kanye West worships Jay-Z. And Jay Electronica. They all worship the nigga. X and J don't worship Jay-Z. Right. You're my man. But when that beat comes on, you're not above me getting at you, nigga.

And that's what I do not feel Jay wanted to deal with. He didn't want to deal with and fucking coming at. You know, and I'm saying these niggas, they would come at each other subliminally.

So it wasn't a direct hit where they're going to say your name and thing. But these niggas, they coming at you. So do I want to make a whole album with these niggas coming at me? And if I'm Jay-Z. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day.

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Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. There's a slight chance that what is niggas gonna say I'm not the nicest nigga. Uh. That's what I'm. Right. It's not worth it. Where's my win? Right.

The only thing I'm seeing with this is potential loss. With now people are saying these niggas is better than you. Uh. Right. Who do you think that won that battle between X and Jay? That famous battle that everybody's talking about. Well, the famous battle, they say that Jay won, but it's an asterisk next to it because Jay finished his rhyme and broke out. He didn't give X a chance to respond.

Jay's rhyme, at the end of the rhyme, he says something, something, I'm back to the block, I'm out. That was the end of his rhyme, and then he breaks out to everyone going, oh, and that was it. So, so X hates that shit because X is like, yo, you didn't give me a chance to respond. But they did go back and forth prior to that.

I think, yeah. Okay, but in the last rhyme, Jay says, I'm going back to the block, I'm out. I'm out. And that was like the mic drop back there. Mic drop. So a lot of people said jay won the battle which incenses x right did you um you know i know this is like kind of heavy on you because we spoke about it um last time he was on here like you know the funeral you're speaking about his death and how the family felt. Like, how

have you been dealing with, you know, because you had a part to do with discovering DMX. So how have you been doing with, you know, the demise of him? How have you been coping with it? I think about X all the time in my L.A. house. Before you walk into my room,

I got this huge DMX poster. Wow. Yeah. So, I think about X all the time. He was really my friend and my man. All right.

He used to always, with me, he used to always laugh, have fun, good times. All right. I know we spoke about it last time, but did you and X ever talk about the fact that he went at Ja Rule on that record? X don't like no rappers. He's a true MC. I don't believe that. But it's love. He's a true MC Everyone believes that

But it's love He's a true MC He's gungo Yeah No he don't He don't like you If you rapping He don't

He don't like you I ain't gonna lie I think he liked me more When I stopped rapping When I became a podcast I became his home Like his brother Brother

Right If you rapping Well not even Not the first time You were a podcaster. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That time he was a little suspect.

Right, right, right, right. No, no, no, the first time we had a podcast. The first time? In the lobby? Well, you hung out with him, but the actual platform, he was...

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He thought it was a jail. He's like, what's a pod? But after it... Pod, pod? I was like, no, I'm making a podcast. You know, pod is a jail.

I'm like, no, nigga, you're home. You just relax. Nah, but he don't like that. That's why I used to try and tell everyone. So he used to always say, well, John, leave it alone, Gotti. All right.

Let us scrap. All right. He said, sometimes you gotta let the pits fight. He went on versus the Snoop Dogg. With Timberlands on, too. He, he, with Timberlands on too. Whoever you are. He had on Timberlands. Whoever you are.

All right. He wanted me to just leave it alone and let them fight. And I'm like, I'm not leaving alone, X. I said,

yo, y'all are my brothers. This shit is stupid. All right. And I said, you know that nigga don't sound like you. All right.

He says, Gotti, if another motherfucker thinks Holla Holla's my record, I'm gonna, he said record I'm gonna bite him Because people used to come up to him and say I love your record, Holla Holla

Another nigga says it I'm biting him I used to be like your ex, man Him and Ja Got together Him and Ja Before they got Famous Famous

Used to battle niggas together Right Tear niggas up Ja And X On the On the cypher Battling niggas

It was a problem, yo Cause they would go like One after the other. So X would fucking clean your clock, and right when he finished, then Rue would come clean your clock. I was like... Where was Mike Geronimo at this time?

He was around. Okay. The funny thing is Mike Geronimo was the guy. Yeah. Because he was on. Yeah. He was on before everyone else was on. Right.

A lot of people thought he was the next Nas. The first time you heard a lot of these people was on Mike Geronimo records. Oh, yeah, that's true. It's time to build. Yeah. That's true. I mean, if Mike would have just stayed with me and not bugged out on me, I think his career would be way different.

Right. But he bugged out on me, I think his career would be way different. But he bugged out. By wanting to get beats from Puff? That just disrespected me. I'm like, nigga, I'm the nigga who made Israel. I'm the nigga who did everything

and put you on. Why you shitting on me? Right. But isn't that every artist though, Gotti? Every stupid ass artist. But couldn't that be young mistakes too? Listen, man. Growing pains. Listen, the complete opposite side of the spectrum is Ja Rule.

All right. When I start fucking with Ja, and he's like, nigga, Gotti fucking with me? That's all. All right. When I start fucking with Ja, and he's like, nigga, God, he fucking with me? All right, that's all. Fuck it. Whatever you say. But what I'm saying is

every artist kind of starts out with the hood management, and then they grow on to like a Mark Pitts, a Steve Stout, a Chris Lighty. You know what I mean? You don't think that was

attributed to that? No. Okay. What was attributed to Mike was Mike being Mike. Okay. I think the main thing with Mike is, catch what I'm about to say.

Some people don't really want to be stars. Again, when I met Mike, I met Mike I met Mike at a Bayside talent show Yeah Yo you wanna make a record? Alright So this nigga didn't

Really really know What he was doing Didn't really really know If he wanted to make a record He didn't really know nothing And what was wrong with that? From your perspective? He should have told me no.

Because now I move and wow, I knock it out the park on the first go with Israel. You're on now. We get a deal. You're on. TBT, Blunt Records. TBT, Blunt Records, you're on.

And I don't think he wanted it. So he flipped on me. When you think about it, no, that's what made me get Ja and Cash Money Click. I said, I have no future with this nigga. So I was just like, yo, who? And my man, Chris Black, he's a drug dealer.

He used to sell drugs on two-fifth of dollars. And he was my man. I didn't know Ja. He said, yo, I rap. I said, nigga, you sell drugs, nigga. He said, yo, I rap. But it went hand in hand. Yeah, but I didn't respect

I didn't respect him As a rap guy Right He said And then he's laughing He said nah I'm in a group I got some other niggas

I said let me meet him I'm at 01 And I'm at Ja And when Ja opened his mouth Yeah Was he loud? Yeah baby His voice There's no there's no denying it.

Alright. There's no denying Ja's voice. The big baritone and he's like, what the fuck, nigga? So, we made, for my click and then get the fortune, shot the videos. Did you ever step to Baby and be like, yo, you know, you took cash money from me? No. You never?

Come on. You got petty in you. Come on. Come on, guy. It was in the back of your mind when you seen this nigga with the star back in his head. They were already named that before, right? They already had the name

before you met them. No. Cash Money Click was out before Cash Money Brothers. A Cash Money record. No, I'm saying John and them already had the name

or you, when you got with them, you made the name? No, they had the name. Right. That was their shit. So it's Jah who thinks he owns the publisher.

Okay. I'm going to FaceTime this nigga right now. You ever get your Royalty's nigga? No, that's funny as hell, man. What's on your rider? If a person wants to book you to host a show.

I ain't even got a rider. You ain't got a rider? I have to make one. What would be on your rider? Did Mr. Lee send you that question? No, no, no. What would be on your rider if you.... Lee send you that question? No, no, no. What would be on your rider if you... I don't know.

A bucket of chicken. Some juice. What kind of chicken? Grilled chicken? Grilled. It's got to be grilled. Probably fried. Oh.

He's been saying it the whole episode. Fried chicken? Original recipe. KFC. Oh, KFC? Damn. KFC? Oh, I should have asked you that. Popeye's or KFC? KFC. I like KFC? Damn, KFC? Oh, I should have asked you that.

Popeye's or KFC? KFC. I like KFC. Y'all never had Pioneer in L.A.? Who? Pioneer in the West Coast. I fuck with Church's. Pioneer was the shit.

No, Church's is good. I fuck with Church's. Popeye's is good. Yeah, Church's. The reason why Church's was finger licking good is because they never gave you a fork. How about that? But who ate that with a fork?

No, I'm just saying. That's why. But you know, all the places you go to KFC, they give you a fork. Do they? Yeah, and they had a smork. A smork.

Smork. The knife and fork. Yeah. I found out in a couple of these places they put pork in their coleslaw. They had a line out here. Pork in their coleslaw. What the fuck line out here. Pork in their coleslaw.

What kind of shit is that? Fowl. That's what type of shit is that. Fowl. You eat pork with avocado? Yeah. Chicharron? Chicharron?

The fried with the long thing? And I don't even say that. You dip it in avocado? And you dip it in avocado. Yo, I be avocado These guys on Instagram You know It's like a challenge They're doing on Instagram

It's horrible Hold on I got a serious one for Gotti Hold on Hold on Hold on So again Another one that I've been asked

Every time you came on The connection Or not the connection. When you, J Prince, and Suge were going to create that movement, whatever it was going to become. Do you feel that that's part of why the feds also came in on you? Could have. I don't know for sure, but definitely could have because it was some powerful shit. We used to meet at the L'Hermitage.

L'Hermitage, I know that. And L'Hermitage was like a popular hotel. And when I say when people used to come in and see me, Suge, and J Prince, they would shuck. I imagine. But it wasn't. It was a union. Like a SAG type of union you guys wanted to create?

Yeah. It was all shook. Really? Shook is brilliant. So he was like, music artists deserve a union. He said, you know, put up some money for them with an annuity.

Get them medical and dental. And he had the nigga who started the baseball union. He's going to put it all together. So it wasn't distribution. That's what we've heard a lot about. See, I would have took that idea that y'all had, but I would have taken it from Chuck D. I just wasn't giving Shug my money. Like, I'm not, like, you know what I mean?

Like, the union. What do you mean? It wouldn't be like it was, it would be, you guys would just prop it up, and it would be its own entity. Because we need that now. Chuck D is probably doing something similar to that. I don't know if you know.

They're trying to do it. Music needs a union. Yeah. Now, Shug was like, we'll take 10% of whatever budget and just put it on their budget. See how,

see if Chuck D would have said that, it would have sounded so good. But with Suge, it sounds like extortion. I'm not. What do you think

is going on over here? But no, but the 10% goes into the payment. To the payment. It goes to the union. Right, right. So if you have a budget,

Nori has a budget with Def Jam for a million dollars. Yes. So now it's a million union. Right, right. So if you have a budget, Nori has a budget with Def Jam of a million dollars. Yes. So now it's a million one. Right. Def Jam cuts 100,000 to the union.

Ooh, very smart. But Nori has to recoup 1.1. Mm, now that's fair. Right, but now he gets the benefits of that extra, that 100,000. Right, that's fair. Not to mention unions has also been a racket also used by the Marvin forever.

Hey, man. I mean, I was like... I'm with it. I'm from New York City, man. I mean, it is what it is. I'm saying it. I'm just saying. I was like, I wasn't mad that it never happened

because I was like, it's sounding like it's going to be too, too, too much money. And a lot of eyes on you to break it up. And niggas controlling it. With this union, could you have stepped to Jay to get down with this? Or Jay would have been like, fuck that. Jay would have had to get down.

That sounds very harsh, Scotty. Jay would have got down because Jay would have seen the bigness of it. I think Jay would have got down. But let me ask you. But artists that wouldn't get down. But was it when you guys thought of it? It wasn't going to be good. Gotti, listen to me.

When you guys thought of it, was it completely honest intent just for the industry's benefit? Like for the artist's benefit? Yes. Not how y'all could benefit off it, but for the industry's benefit, like for the artist's benefit. Yes. Not how y'all could benefit off it, but for the entire. Yes, it came from an honest place and it came from a great place. And this is how we're going to benefit the artist with the money that is accumulated in the annuity. So now when they retired and they're not... Can you imagine if it would have happened back then?

How differently things would have been? No, once you're saying something like annuities, you know how serious the intent was to create that legit union. Yeah, but at the same time, I'm openly saying, if we got the whole Pop

Rock Hip hop R&B Music in general All genres Crosstrainer You know how much money That'll be

It'll be In the probably Hundreds of millions of dollars Right And you telling me You're not gonna get down Some niggas is running it Right

It would've been broken up. Which is why I asked you if that's a reason why. Could be, I don't know. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it. I'm J.R. Martinez. I'm a U.S. Army veteran myself, and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Honor, Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Podcast.

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and then where they'll say when cave people were here and I'll say it seems like the ice age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.

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Could be, I don't know. So let me ask you something. Earlier you said the guy Francois, what's his name? From AP. Pumpkin. Pumpkin. I'm going to leave with Francois. So y'all used to play The poker game together

Your poker game Get out of here You still playing poker I love poker We got to have a celebrity Poker game No no Y'all can play

Four cards PLO now Oh you're not playing Texan Hold'em I can still play it We love that I mean I'm rusty But we can run that

We can run that Are you alone We can play it right now You play high level though Yeah well he's in the 100 million bracket I could play whatever level They playing Cause it was a big rumor

At one point It was a big rumor At one point You and your brother Was like notorious gamblers Because it was a big rumor at one point. It was a big rumor at one point. You and your brother was like notorious gamblers. Like it was like in the city that y'all was throwing

these high level, you know, poker games, bitches rubbing shoulders like tootsies. I ran a poker game. That's what I'm saying. You ran a poker game.

That sounds... Some of the baddest bitches working now. What is... Celebrities that you could talk about? No. Oh, no.

Celebrities... Like they played in the game. We ran a poker game. Don Cheadle. Don Cheadle. Fab used to play. Fab. Fab.

F-A-B-L. Fab could play? You need to televise that on the network. You need to do that televised. Right. Because that shit's big when it's televised. What's Spider-Man?

What the fuck is his name? Spider-Man? That's your boy. Toby. Toby? Toby, get high. Todd Phillips. Oh.

The director. Okay. He could play. He's good. A few people like Nick Cassidy. Paul Pierce? Paul Pierce for sure. Okay. Nick Cassavetti. Kevin Hart. Okay. He could play. He's good. A few people like Paul Pierce. Paul Pierce for sure. Okay.

Nick Cassavetti, Kevin Hart. Okay. You know, a lot of good people. We got to do a drink chance. Okay. So let me,

we're going to sign on this one. Ecstasy or Molly? It's the same shit. No, it's not. Molly's the remix of Ecstasy. Molly's the remix of Ecstasy or Molly It's the same shit No it's not Molly's the remix of Ecstasy Molly's the remix of Ecstasy But Molly got Fentanyl on there Molly is like These niggas out here

Taking Fentanyl Pure Ecstasy Yeah Not no more After COVID These niggas taking Fentanyl off Gotta watch out You ain't

You don't fuck around no more Let's make some noise for God This is a funny question Nothing to do with anybody else You ain't your own fuck around no more. Let's make some noise for God. This is a funny question. Nothing to do with anybody else. Will you come to my house? And I mean it. It's a funny question. We'll play it one more time.

Oh, sorry guys. And I need this for me. Your setup is crazy. Out of bounds. A woman older than you? What do you think about that? You've been around. Really?

You went all that setup? I want to know. What does he feel? If I would get with an older woman? Yeah. Older than him? Older than him? With a walking stick.

Older than you? That's what he does. I'm 53. That's never going to happen. Never going he does. I'm 53. That's never going to happen. Never going to happen. I'm 53. So what? For him, 63.

Fuck you mean so. Hold on. Don't go me that way, bro. Hold on. I'm just saying. I'm 53. You're saying Irv got to go get with a nice 55. That's teenager for him.

55? What? Never. Sonny. Young guns. That's teenager for him 55 what Never Sonny Young guns That's it guys Jesus Sonny What a terrible setup for that Congrats on this movie my brother

Hey Hey let me give you the dates. August 18th is when the TV series documented. Tales? Behind the scenes of the movie. The making of the movie. The making of the movie. Seeing how we picked the starring role for the movie.

And when is this premiere on? August 18th. YouTube? 18th. On Monetize. Monetize. Monetize is this premiere on? August 18th. On Monetize. Monetize. Monetize is a new streaming service. You ain't tell us that. Right.

I'm so glad I'm getting to it now. Listen, Monetize is something all your listeners is gonna love. We're gonna monetize that shit. No, listen. Why Monetize is so dope They figured out a way

You watch the content You're going to make money Alright So it's not like 2E The viewer is going to make money You As the viewer You as the viewer

Have monetized that You as the viewer click on my TV series. You watch my TV series. As you're watching, they're going to trickle money back to you. That's dope. So it's not like Tubi. No, Tubi, yeah. So they're basically rev-sharing with everybody, including the viewer.

They're rev sharing With everyone Right Because basically What it is Anybody can make a movie On Tubi Yeah

But basically What it is Is Commercial ad revenue When you're watching All of these Places like YouTube

Anything you click on You're going to see Two, three commercials Alright Monetize Is figured out a way YouTube Anything you click on You're going to see Two, three commercials All right Monetize Is figured out a way With that commercial Ad revenue

To give a small piece Back to the To the person So that's Is that going to help Like the writers Because that's what's Going on right now

It's going to help The consumer Ooh And Wait the consumer's Getting paid to watch the movie Yeah that's what he's saying But it's not going to help the writers.

The writers are fighting for something else, AI, a bunch of different things. So I said to my man Terrell, I said, yo, you sure you doing it? You sure this is... He said, yeah, yeah, yeah. I said, I know my niggas. What?

I said, once my niggas get wind that they can make money Just watching content on Monetize Why? They're going to watch it all day Why? Because they're going to fuck around And make a couple hundred bucks

And as long as the content is worth watching Which is That's it You got them Well he has Monetize has all the movies Really? Yeah

They got everything Like other streaming services have But what I'm giving them Is exclusive content That you're only going to see On Monetize Almost like Patreon But for movies

You know what Patreon is? Patreon is like an interview Yeah, but that's subscription based That's subscription based Is this subscription based or no? I told them do it for free There is models That you could do it uh and subscribe and you you you won't see commercials or whatever but for the most part you could get it for free download it

for free watch it for free and still make money yeah okay commercials right now now here's the million dollar question or a hundred million a hundred million dollar question. Or a hundred million. A hundred million dollar question. Excuse me. When is this Preem movie coming out that we heard that Leonardo DiCaprio is attached to? We heard Q-Tip has something to do with it. Who's playing Preem? I forgot who's playing Preem. I think you already picked it.

The guy or whatever. What is happening with this cream team movie? We're getting the caliber of actors and stars. It just takes a lot of time. All right. You're still casting? Still putting it together. So it's in pre-production still?

Leonardo DiCaprio. Yeah. So it's in pre-production still Leonardo DiCaprio Yeah So When you sit there With Leonardo DiCaprio And someone like Leonardo DiCaprio Expresses interest Right

You want to make sure it's right No He also Let you know It's going to take years to make Because I got out the shit Oh for him Right

And is it worth waiting for him? Yeah, that's a great question. Fucking Leonardo DiCaprio. Right. Right. Leonardo DiCaprio in a black gangster movie like Supreme Team

takes it completely over the top. But what would be his role? He'll be a director? Law enforcement. Oh, no, no. I mean, that's just... But what I'm saying is, I guess my question I'm asking is, is he behind the scenes in this movie, too? No, he just attaches an act. Okay, just, no. I mean, that's just... But what I'm saying is, I guess my question I'm asking is,

is he behind the scenes in this movie, too? No, he just attaches an actor. Okay, just an actor, okay. He probably, if he wants to produce it and get a producer credit, he could take it. All right. You know? But, you know, what are you going to do?

All right. You got to sit there and try and play that out. All right. Well, man, we hope you produce that that movie that's the movie I want to see All the documentaries about Prame All the things about Prame I think a full fledged Full fledged movie

About that whole experience That whole thing that changed not only Queens It changed everything It's part of hip hop history too And so man I hope everything goes out Not only Queens, it changed everything. It's part of hip-hop history, too. Yeah, yes, yes. And so, man, man, I hope everything goes out. I hope you spend every fucking dollar, that fucking hundred million. Give me a health off, man.

Give me a health off. August 18th, documented. We made it in America TV series. October 6th. Monetized. October 6th. Monetized. October 6th. It's in theaters. Okay.

Theaters. We're going theatrical. No, that's for the movie. For the movie. Okay. And probably a month after in theaters, it'll be on Monetized. Okay. Okay. Only on Monetized.

Exclusively on Monetized. Not on Apple. Not on Spotify. Maybe Tidal no, exclusively monetized obviously monetized, monetized Tim monetized, monetized

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Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly, DJ EFN and NORE. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials. That's at Drink Champs across all platforms, at TheRealNoriega on IG, at Noriega on Twitter. Mine is at Who's Crazy on IG, at DJ EFN on Twitter. And most importantly, stay up to date with the latest releases, news, and merch by going to drinkchamps.com. Why is a soap opera Western like Yellowstone so wildly successful? The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network.

So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to the American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your gut microbiome and those healthy bacteria can actually have positive effects. Your mental health, your immunity, your risk of cancer, almost any disease under the sun. This week on Dope Labs, Titi and I dive into the world of probiotics, the hype, the science, and what your gut bacteria are really doing behind the scenes. From drinks and gummies to probiotic pillows. Yes, really, probiotic pillows. We're breaking down what's legit and what's just brilliant marketing.

With expert insight from gastroenterologist Dr. Roshi Raj. Listen to Dope Labs on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And it's going to take us to heal us. It's Mental Health Awareness Month, and on a recent episode of Just Heal with Dr. J, the incomparable Taraji P. Henson stopped by to discuss how she's discovered peace on her journey. I never let that little girl inside of me die. To hear this and more things on the journey of healing, you can listen to Just Heal with Dr. J

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