Drink Champs - Episode 385 w/ Mannie Fresh and Juvenile (Live from REVOLT World)

Episode Date: October 20, 2023

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the Champs chop it up two legends, Mannie Fresh and Juvenile!Live from REVOLT World, Mannie Fresh and Juvenile share their historic journey! Juvi and Mannie Fresh share stories from the early Cash Money days, dropping classic-billboard-charting records and more!Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss! Listen as we continue to celebrate 50 Years of Hip-Hop!!Make some noise for Mannie Fresh and Juvenile!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com  Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps  DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions  N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And your number one source for drunk facts. It's Drink Champs, motherfucking podcast. Where every day is New Year's Eve. It's time for Drink Champs. Drink up, motherfucking. Yo, ATL, make some motherfucking noise! Yo, shout out Carlos, 85 South. That's home team right here.

Make some noise for 85 South. Let's go. I love the 85 South niggas. Look at New Face. There's a new face. It ain't happening unless New Face is here. Okay. Well, who do we have here with us?

Man! Who do we have here tonight? Introduce them, EFN. We got the legendary. It's not just the South. It's not just New Orleans. This is hip-hop icons. We got Juvenile and Manny Fresh.

Make some noise! Yo, get my horn, hey! Hold it, go first. Oh, uh, what's your name, Boris? Get my horn right there, dog. Get the horn. Get the horn, dog! Get the horn, goddammit. Come on, man.

We ain't complete unless we making some motherfucking noise. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! What's up, what's up, what's up, what's up? What's up, what's up, what's up, what's up? What's happening? Y'all know this is different for Dream Champs. Yeah! Make some fucking noise! What's happening? This is like corporate drink champs right now. I'm not going to lie to you.

This is probably one of the fantastic moments for me as a hip hop artist. I used to go to New Orleans all the time. Yes, sir. And I used to try to discover the new shit. And when I came to New Orleans this one time, there was this Puerto Rican woman. She had gold fronts in her mouth. And she was Boricua for sure? Boricua.

Boricua. And she said, You're disrespecting the God. I was like, yo. And you know, I You know disrespecting the God I was like what I was like yo She said you need to understand What juvenile number niggas is doing over there? And I did not understand until I understood And let me tell you something

Y'all niggas change the face of fucking hip-hop. Y'all changed the face of rap. Y'all changed the face of everything. And I want to salute you face-to-face, man-to-man, like a real nigga, and tell y'all, holy moly guacamole. No real shit because The mundo said by the way, you know what I broke out today, you know what this is especially oh the fucking Oh Van Winkle Yes, that's it right there. That's the old fucking somebody got killed behind that shit

And he fresh went too far Yeah, I don't know what I listen this is this is this is okay, okay, man He tell you so this shit like maybe it's aged But it was a story about some dude who stole the barrels and all of that shit He worked for them right and This shit was like the craziest shit in the world. It came from Kentucky, right? Yes. Yeah, it's a Kentucky whiskey or bourbon or whatever the fuck it

is, but it's this crazy shit that these fucking lawyers, attorneys, and all of this shit was fighting over to have. It was one dude who had barrels of this fucking shit that he stole. Now this shit is the most sought-after shit in the fucking world. So we drinking this or what?

Yes, we are drinking this, motherfucker. The shot glasses. The shot glasses are the most important. Look, Juve, like, fuck it. I'll drink anything. Yo, Juve, Juve, I'm going to be honest. Give it one to everybody. I bought my own shit.

I'm going to drink your shit. You got the beer, right? I'm going to drink your shit, Juve. Juve juice. You know what I'm saying? I've been seeing the Juve juice. We've been wanting it. I'm drinking own shit. I'm going to drink your shit. You got the beer, right? I'm going to drink your shit, Juvie. Juvie juice. You know what I'm saying? I've been seeing the Juvie juice. We've been wanting it. I had a six pack, but I didn't drink it.

I drank the shit. So explain to us what is Juvie juice? It's a seltzer. It's like an onopoma seltzer, right? Okay. Man, you got to taste the motherfucker. It's a hard seltzer? Yeah, yeah.

Pass it to me. Yeah, yeah. All right. But let's just throw it out there. Hold on. Yeah, pass it to me. Damn But let's just throw it out there. Hold on. Yeah, pass it to me. Damn. Let's just throw it out there.

And we need a couple of you. BG is home. Definition is it's Juvie getting that fucking money. BG is home. Hey! BG is home. Yes. Our brother home.

Dugan! Dugan! There's a rumor that there's a tour going on. The Hot Boys. It could happen. Y'all know shit. Now we got, you know, lawyers and shit. Cross your T's, dot your I's. Shit's different now. The hot boys. It could happen. Y'all know shit. Now we got, you know, lawyers and shit.

Cross your T's, dot your I's. Shit's different now. Shit is different. I'm a grown ass man. You can't just shake my fucking hand. I need that money.

Jesus. Jesus. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. You got a cup? I got a cup right here. Let me give you a cup. Oh, you're pouring it in a cup. Let me try this craziness.

Yes, please. Here you go. Okay. That shit smell different. Yeah. It sears the nose hairs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on, man. You ain't helping me out at all, man.

And you brought this for what reason? Yeah, I bought this because these niggas are from New Orleans, and they're going to appreciate this shit. Yeah? Y'all drink whiskey like that in New Orleans? Hold on. If you ain't got what I'm drinking, I'm drinking what you got. Uh-huh. Let's go.

Cheers. Cheers to that. Cheers to y'all legacy to the legends yeah so juvie oh that shit they said wow that shit exploded in your neck that shit is different and manny took it like a fucking champ. I ain't fucking with Manny. Yeah. They said you're the only person to make a record

with a rhetorical question. Huh. You're the first person I ever heard break that shit. That's how I know you said it. Did you know that you knew the answers to every question on that record? They said you had the answers to every question on that record?

No, he said it. They say, they say, Juvie, rhetorical questions. Yes. Because you didn't really care what anybody asked you after you asked that question. You asked, huh? Right, right, right. How does that feel? That's crazy, man.

You got me looking at that shit differently, right? But, Juvie, break down that whole record. I'm sure you've done it a million times, but for right now, for right here, break down that record, how you came up with that record. Talking about how I backed that ass up. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But the whole hot thing was, you know, I wanted to relive the Soulja Rag thing. I don't know if you ever heard the Soulja Rag. Yeah, absolutely.

But Soulja Rag was kind of like the song that kind of broke down a lot of doors for us right so it was like when we got with universal i was like damn you know i want the whole country to hit me in this form right so i'm like how the can i follow up this song and make a song like that and the whole thing was huh and i told manny like man just do one of them beats closer like soldier rag but manny made the beat totally different and faster so it brought on another challenge to where i was it was to the point to where i wasn't following the beat when i recorded it so leave it up to your man right make my job harder but that's how the song came about it was it was a follow-up to the soldier now manny i'm be honest with you yeah

i've interviewed a lot of cash money artists, and all that they do is say it's always Manny's fault. Not a good thing or a bad thing. In a good way. In a good way. They're like, yo, whatever I say, if I say I want to do Rosé at the end, Manny knows how to facilitate that. In a lot of ways, I apologize for making this reference,

but a lot of ways people say that you are the New Orleans Dr. Dre. Yeah. That's a fair assessment. To me, bro, that's an honor, you feel me? That's an honor? Yeah. Should we make some noise for that? Oh, yeah.

Let's make some noise for that. Hell yeah. You know what I'm saying? He's the South Dr. Dre. Put a boy on the South, too. I grew up on Dr. Dre, so, you know what i'm saying he's the south dr dre for me but it brought on the south too up on dr dre so you know like i i fuck young me mimic dr dre you know what i'm saying i wanted to be dr dre so that is fucking an honor to me you feel me and even with hi i remember when juvie was saying this shit clowning i was beating on the table somewhere and he was saying this shit and i was

with the hot records? Yeah. So it was, let's be honest, it was a joke at first. Yeah, it was kind of like- All our songs kind of like start off from- Y'all got to stop. Y'all got to stop. He was just fucking up. Y'all done made everybody think you're serious as a motherfucker.

Everybody in the studio, serious as a motherfucker and y'all in there playing around and making hit records. I was like, we going to record that shit. Holy moly, guacamole, yeah. So, I was like, I'm going to record that shit. I was like, I'm going to record that shit. I was like, I'm going to record that shit. I was like, I'm going to record that shit.

I was like, I'm going to record that shit. I was like, I'm going to record that shit. I was like, I'm going to record that shit. I was like, I'm going to record that shit. I was like, I'm going to record that shit. I was like, we're going to record that shit. Holy moly, guacamole. Yeah. Yes, sir. No, I'm saying, so y'all in the studio. Uh-huh. How does this start?

How does this start? Our process? Yeah. So I think what made them incredible songs was we was always in competition with each other. With each other? With each other. If I felt like he would tell you in a morning show, Wayne, Turk, BG, all of y'all. Definitely in competition every time.

We'll tell y'all. Let me say something. Let me say something. As an outsider looking in, we always thought y'all was in competition with Cash. No limit. No limit. No. We was in competition with Cash. No limit, no limit. No, we was in competition with each other in the studio. Fuck. So if Juvie did some shit and I felt like

it beat my fucking beat up or fucked my beat up, the song would sound completely different the next day. You never was looking at Beats by the Pound like saying that's competition? No. At all? No. We had enough competition with us. And I give a scenario to that, right? We turned in the album 400 Degrees, right? We went to- Amazing album, by the way.

It's a nice scenario. So we in Nashville and we got to turn the album in Monday, and it's Saturday. And Man in Fresh turned on Back That Ass Up, which I recorded like two months earlier, right? He turned it on. I'm listening to the song. I'm like, damn, bro, you changed the beat. That ain't what the rap's here. So he killing me.

He killing me. You know, the beat y'all listening to now, that's the beat I'm listening to. Back That Ass Up. Yeah. And I'm doing some moves. Man, I don't even remember the shit I did. It wasn't the shit I said that y'all hear now. I wasn't saying you're working with some ass shit,

I ain't say none of that shit. It was like a regular verse. When I heard that shit, I said, hell no, bro. When you heard the... I said, bro, you got to give me another shot at it. So me and Nashville, same thing happened with her. People don't know high and back... Juba, you're going way too fast.

Let him finish, man. Watch. How high and back that ass was the last two songs recorded on 400 Degrees, right? And it was recorded in Nashville. In Nashville on top of that? It was because this nigga changed the beats to both of them. Actually. Yeah.

Wait, so wait, those verses had other beats on them? Yeah, it was other verses. His verse was different, but I felt like they was better than my beat. So I changed the beat. And then he changed the verse. He changed the verse. So can I say? That's wild.

So history changed right there. Yeah. Let me tell you something, Juby. If you ever seen a regular girl. She regular. She love her man, but she ain't got nothing to do with nothing, but then back that ass up, come on. This girl becomes different.

She's different? She becomes... She back that ass up, and you telling me you made that by mistake? That's kind of what he said. But I don't want to hear this. Not the hook, now. Yeah, not the hook.

The hook was there, but I knew back then that ass up. It would have been a different song, though. Just because we had friendly competition, that always made the song so much better. Like, you know what I'm saying? It would be a moment where you had to go to the corner and be like, man, what the fuck he doing? Like, he really trying to embarrass me. But mind you, the friendly competition is within y'all. Yeah, within us.

But man, I just want to warn y'all something. There's a footage as a U.S. Army member that he stands there. You got military footage? Yes. It's military footage of a U.S. Army member. He stands there. You got military footage? Yes. It's military footage of a U.S. Army member. Yeah.

And then he goes... Don't start dancing, though. Please don't do that. No, I can't do it. But in my mind. He starts playing back that ass up, and he just walks out. Y'all didn't see that? I saw it.

I knew what you're talking about. Man always sends stuff to me. Yeah. Like, he sent me the lady on the ground Yeah, I don't I don't know what she was at a party. Oh, yeah on the ground. She was she was not on the beat It was carrying on the ground y'all saw it y'all saw it. Yeah With my engineer, I hope you got how's it it sounds. Can you get back that ass up? Ready?

Come on. Jesus. That's kind of weird. If anybody, if these women in here, look at them. Look at them. They are disappointed. They're looking like Nori. We don't want to disappoint our husbands.

They already know what's happening. No woman can act normal. They got speakers in this motherfucker. That's baby making music. I was about to say, that's the greatest love. Listen, no woman can act normal when back that ass. Right. Come on.

But hold on, hold on. Look at them, look at them. Hold on, hold on, hold on. They looking at me like, Nori, don't do it. The original version, you have that original version as well? Like, does that exist somewhere? Nah, because we was that real with it. Nope. You threw it away. Yeah, threw that shit. Get rid, because we was that real with it. Nope.

You threw it away. Yeah, threw that shit. Get rid of that shit. Let's go. If I did a beat that I felt like it was whack, I would be like, get rid of that shit. Y'all can't hear that shit. Dang, because I would have loved to have heard that original version.

You know, we was using two-inch. Yeah. Let me find out a hardcore version of Back That Ass Up. Not wasting that tape. There's a lot of shit that a lot of folks don't know. You know, like, our city, the heritage is so crazy. My dad was a hardcore version of Back That Ass Up. I'm not wasting that tape. There's a lot of shit that a lot of folks don't know. You know, like our city, the heritage is so crazy. My dad was a street DJ. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network,

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from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. AT&T, connecting changes everything. My dad knows Juvie as Tanook. That's his nickname. Tanook? Yeah.

That's your original name? If you watch Baller Blockin', that's his nickname. That's my name in the Baller Blockin' movie. Okay. So he was DJing. I mean, he was doing shit like block parties when my dad was DJing.

Juvie with your dad? Yeah. Working on shit that, you know, just working on his craft. Yeah. Then this shit just, you know, just working on his craft. Yeah. Then this shit just evolves to some other shit. You know what I'm saying?

This is not the same. Now we're going to turn this shit into music. Back that ass up. Right. Look, this is not it. No,

it's not going to transcend, right? It's not happening. Relax, buddy. Fall back. Yeah. Hey, y'all want to hear that

real back that ass up, right? And Revolve, look at them. Revolve, give us the that real bad ass all right hey can somebody give me some ice I came to drink to oh you got any dog oh can you have another thing yeah I want this yeah absolutely I need to drink something I want so I got another gift you let me get some juvie juice. Oh, my bad. Damn, man. I'm about to... Damn. This nigga done do it. That shit hit different. Damn, bro.

Yes. Yo, do you remember... Pass me the juvie juice because you ain't drinking that shit. I'm drinking juvie juice. Give me that shit, man. All right. I'm about to hit my dog in the head.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, man. I'm trying to give you something... All right, what is this? Turn it over. Turn it over. Ooh. No, you got it upside down.

That's different. The other way. The other way. Man, you... The other upside down. That's different. The other way. The other way. Man, you... The other upside down. You're dyslexic, man. The other upside down. I see you smoking, man.

I bought you some of my smoke. That's 400. Let me see. What's it called? 400. 400. Make some noise for 400. Hey.

Hey, grown and in bed. So let me ask y'all. BG just came home. Yes, sir. Yeah, welcome home to BG. It's rumors. Yeah. It's rumors that it's a BG cash money tour.

Uh-huh. It's Juvenile Manny Fresh on this tour. Hell yeah. You can't do it without us Me and Manny already on to it right now pretty much. Yeah, yeah y'all been on the run like I see NPR y'all just going in Listen no fucking anywhere. They got that bullet that guap, me and this nigga getting it. This is my partner in crime. They rhyme.

We getting it, you heard? We got it. We got it. So let me ask y'all, like, to be 100 with y'all, right, as a fan. Cash money has been known to, like, get the most money in the world. There's been discrepancies of people saying, you know, what is this, this, this, and that? You two brothers seem to be happy as hell. Yeah. Yeah.

What is, what is your take on that? We grew up, bro. We understand that as black men or any man, fuck it, black, white, with all of that. You know,

I know dude made some mistakes and it took him some time to figure that shit out, that he made some mistakes. But we also grew up because his kids growing up with my kids and everybody else's kids growing up with my kids and everybody else's kids growing up with everybody else's kids. So you know what I'm saying? We could sit around

and we could be angry and talk about fuckery and we could get money. I talk to him all the time, man. We found man with me. You know what I'm saying? So we are not the crew. We hate each other. We have figured that shit out. We get money. And look, if you know anything about you, if you know anything about me and my character, you know it's family first with me. And, you know, I treat everybody else like family. I look at them the same way. So it's nothing that went on in the past affects my feelings right now. It's love.

Yeah. Love. It's all love. What's different about us, you know, as a group that, you know, the world never got to see, all our mamas and daddies know each other you know what i'm saying we we second generation people yeah our fucking parents was counting on us to get out the hood right they was counting on us to do some great shit because they like nigga we tired of this shit y'all better get out there sing and fucking do something

you know so now he'll tell you you know know, me, you know, me being a philanthropist, being a businessman, my focus is all about generational wealth. Wow. Helping out the youth, bringing them to making sure they don't make the same mistakes we do. Right. That's where I'm at with it. Yeah. And I think we have to say, like, and I'm not making excuses for people doing anything foul, but people was young making a lot of money. They didn't know what they was doing. Consulted

by people that didn't really have their best interest at heart. And I'm not going to say this works for everybody, but forgiveness. Yeah, you have to. You got to move past it. A lot of these young crews. I'm not saying you have to. Yeah, you have to move past it. Even if you don't fuck with that person

no more, forgive them. That's the only way you're going to get where you need to go. Being able to live enough to learn to forgive. Right. Have that really sunk down in your heart. I think that means a lot. That moves mountains. Let me ask y'all something though. How did

you, Juvie, specifically, and then Manny, when it comes to the production, because in New Orleans, the bounce, just like in Miami, where I'm from, the bass. How did you come into the lyrical side of it, Juvie? I'm going to just tell you from my point of view.

You're one of the most lyrical artists, as far as I'm concerned. You're in the top tier lyricism. Right on. How did you get there? I love hip-hop. I love hip-hop. But how did it go from bounce

to what you got, what y'all got? Well, before I got to bounce, I kind of like used being in the club and doing bounce music as my stepping stone to get to doing what I really want to do, to be honest. But it always have been you know LL Cool J Cool Mo D's you notice off the furious five you know I used to

I used to be a Melly Mel fan back in the day so you know I'm saying I like Ice Cube I like Scarface and my list is long man when it comes down I listen to everybody do see and the list is on the ocean I was one of them cats ice cube or a big just to give it exactly bro you are as Cuba big You just want to perpetuate that bullshit I live across the street. I lived in a project I live across the street from the record store. Oh, I got opportunity here everything is sealed So, you know when all this came in town and he came to the hood, I got a chance to see a lot of them. So I grew up just feeling like I liked everybody. I wasn't really stuck on one thing, you know?

They used to say, Tupac or Biggie? I'm like, why not both? I got to choose. Make some noise for that. Yeah. Yeah. I always been like that, man. I like music.

I like when a hit is a hit. But my philosophy, KRS-One, BDP, that was our love. When I first started, we had to write all the lyrics down. And me and all my homies, we recited. That was the thing in the beginning. And you, Manny, how did you transcend from bounce to what the production, how did your production evolve from bounce? One of the cool things about New Orleans was we played everything.

As small as the city is, East Coast, West Coast records, all of that, like Juvie's telling y'all that story, but the one thing, you know, I guess he didn't say was every fucking thing played in New Orleans. East Coast, West Coast, Miami Bass, all of that. We played all of that shit.

And we just took bits and pieces from it and made gumbo. You heard me? Which is my favorite dish. You got to give them their flowers, man. Do we got their flowers? You got to give them their flowers, man. Give them their flowers. Where their flowers at, man?

Come on, give the speech, my brother. Give the speech. Where their flowers at? Listen, our show is about giving people their flowers while they're alive. Yes. And we want to give y'all brother. They flowers. Yeah. Yes. Yes Oh, we want this is an all y'all flowers. This is a honor y'all love where y'all sit here and Snoop Dogg said Thank y'all The Grammy Snoop said it's better than a Grammy because it's coming from y'all people. Oh, you gotta believe it when it comes from the audience you

Y'all change the game. Yeah, what y'all people. You've got to believe it when it comes from your players. I'm going to be honest with you. Y'all changed the game. What y'all did to the game, y'all came in, pause. Why did you pause on that one? I don't understand the pause. I love my brother Cam and his

show, so I got to respect it. You had to pause on that one? Yeah. I got to respect it. I didn't get it. I didn't get it. Yeah, don't worry about it.

But what Nori not telling y'all, like when we first kind of got on, he was one of the first brothers that embraced us. He was just like- From New York. From New York. Yeah, from Embrace. This motherfucker. Hey, I'm going to tell you.

Hey. Invited me down. Not only invited me down, put me on a song with him. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Paid that bag and everything. Took me to the rack,

you know what I'm saying? You know, they was calling it our rack. You know what I'm saying? Took me to the rack and everything. Showed me mad love, man. Yeah. From day one. Yeah. From day one. Yeah, from day one, this brother embraced us

when the rest of the world was like, I don't know what the fuck they doing. Norris was like, I know what the fuck they doing. That's my bro. Yo, you get the fuck up! The fuck? I didn't want to say it. I didn't want to say it I didn't want to say it

but I brought cash money to the world hold up buddy not to the world relax you don't want me to not say you on your WWF shit right now

no I'm being honest let me tell y'all a crazy ass story. So, you remember when we done the tunnel, right? So, when we done the tunnel, right? And Flex was like... The tunnel in New York. Yeah, the tunnel in New York was fucking notorious. Right, right.

We gotta tell everybody because people don't know. I don't even know about that shit. It was New York after New York. Y'all niggas ain't going to make it tonight. I was scared to death. If you get out here, it's an accident. Them niggas. Yeah.

I was in jail. Same one song, nigga. I said, what? Nigga, I got me. They put me through a whole show. Yo, y'all spinning the tunnel must be bananas. Yeah, but the fact that we was in New York, that was enough for us. We was just like, we fucking in New York. Y'all was already happy about that. We was like we fuck you see bro

I'm trying to tell you this about the South you don't listen. Oh, you don't fucking listen You're right, but not right. Sorry. Sorry. It's an internal beef. Yeah I think the first song we opened up with was Huh, and the fucking crowd went crazy. Nigga, we could have cried on stage. Because y'all didn't believe that. We didn't believe like it would be a hoist that fucking high. You couldn't believe that New York was showing so much love. Like, you know what I'm saying?

We sung one, I think one or two more songs, but we had to sing Huh like four more times. So this is before you had Jay-Z on the remix, right? When you joined the tunnel. Yeah, yeah, that was before. That was before. Jay-ZZ on the remix, right? When you joined the tunnel. Yeah, that was before. That was before. Jay-Z jumped on the remix. That was bananas. It was one of them things where you're sitting inside and you see Jay-Z on the remix. I'm like, yeah, yeah.

I'm trying to be cool in front of every shit. The clothes do like... Another crazy, crazy fucking story, right? So, Juv a hip-hop head. He know everything. He knows fucking KRS, Jay-Z, Juv a hip-hop head. He know everything. He knows fucking KRS, Jay-Z, like he said, da-da-da-da. But baby them

just strictly cash money. They just business. They the motherfuckers. No. Listen to what I'm saying. They don't give a fuck about nothing outside of our city. Right, right. He really didn't know who Jay-Z was. He did not understand. You know, so we both going, nigga who Jay-Z was. He did not understand.

You know, so we both going, nigga, Jay-Z just jumped on this motherfucking ring. And baby didn't give a fuck. He didn't give a fuck. Nigga went... Who that is? Only fucking with our shit on it.

Us only. Casual. He's like, man, I don't know none of that shit. We was like, dog, this is it, right? God damn it. I don't know. Wait, did you know, Manny, when Jay jumped on the joint, what did you think that meant? Oh, I knew that shit was like a whole another fucking world like you know what i'm saying because it wasn't like it was just fucking

so generic like he just sent that bitch back we didn't ask him to do it or none of that oh he you didn't know he did it we didn't even know he did it it was almost like a freestyle yeah but was it a freestyle or did he send it to y'all before it came out? Nah, he sent that shit to Universal. Like, this shit needs to happen. They sent it to us. And we was just like, wait, Jay-Z jumped on this one? Whoa.

That's different. Yeah, it was. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Because he just said, Braby didn't know. But when you heard that Jay-Z jumped on your joint, what did you think? I went back to the studio. Hey, bro, Jay on my shit. I got to get my shit together now.

He wanted to read you your verse? I said, you know, that nigga's a lyricist, Jay. I got to get my shit together. Nigga's going to be on me now, bro. I'll tell him all that. It was funny as fuck, yeah. Wait, wait, so you don't know what your record is doing across the world? I don't know how they're taking me in New York.

I know they like the High record, but I don't know. How big it is. Yeah. I'ma just be honest. I didn't know who you were, right, at the time, but I went to Angie Martinez show at that time Yes, please. Pull me a shot. We're doing this y'all. Yeah, we take it Just so you know this is before and I paid y'all niggas

Yes, you have for the record that I got with y'all. I paid every one of y'all And little Wayne was the first. You didn't pay. The record label paid. Relax, buddy. That's me. That's my payment, motherfucker. That nigga always showed up

for everything. Whatever was going on, he was there. And let me just be honest. Let me be honest with y'all. Y'all niggas are the only niggas I ever seen order pizza with pork.

Pork with pork. Pork with pork, you said? Them niggas had sausage with sausage. I never saw that in a pizza. On a pizza, you just pepperoni and that's it. Just had pepperoni, sausage, pork, sausage. Combination pizza, huh? Yeah, I had. I was was the amount of

But I knew. I knew. Juby Juice. Hey, Joe. Juby Juice off the chain. Yeah, Juby Juice off the chain. Yeah, since we got. But I knew. But I'm going to be honest. Be honest, please.

No, I need to ask this question. Because that record was ringing only in down south. Which record are you talking about, though? Huh. Okay. Yeah. It was only ringing in underground down south. Yeah.

But me, I was in underground down south because I had the Super Thug records. What, what, what, what? And that rang to us down south. That rang to us. That record still happens. I knew what it was but what happened was I had did an unofficial Version of the record of huh? Yeah, I did it on the visit. It never reached them. That was on Telemundo It didn't

Try to do the remix first. It didn't work out for me. You're coming at me. Leave it alone. We'll play the record later. It didn't reach the record. I was like, Skullduggery was starting. Penalty. I was trying to get to them. It didn't work out.

Just leave me alone. It didn't work out. But when Jay-Z calls and says, I want to be a part of this record. Well, he didn't call them. He just sends it in to the rehearsal they sent. He just did the song. That's what I'm saying. All right, so what do you think?

I get to the office and they play it to me. I got one respond, because I'm a Jay-Z fan already. They not. You know what I'm saying? And you be where Reebok. Are you the only one in the crew that's up on Jay? I'm a Jay Z fan already. They not. Are you the only one in the crew that's up on Jay? I'm on him already. Nobody else believes you.

They don't see your vision. I knew from a DJ. He said that's cool. I knew from a DJ he was the only hip hop head because the rules in cash money was cash money. That's the rule. The rule is cash Right. Because the rules in Cash Money was cash money. That's the rule.

They did not. The rule is cash money. Yeah. Cash money. You got to think about, for fucking eons, we never had no motherfucking outside people that did anything. Right. You know, like, we didn't have no features from nobody.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, y'all was self-sufficient. Yeah. I had Bun B. Yeah. But Bun was, shit, he is officially Cash Money. I thought Bun was in the group. Bun was but bun was shit. He's officially One was in the group bun beers officially

True burgers is a party. Oh, yeah. Yeah bonus shit fucking bonus Troubles, yeah, there's juvie juice to this read this juvie juice. Holy shit. Yeah That's I like it look Look at y'all. Everybody looking like... That's some strong shit right there. That's from New Orleans. You need to take a shot of that old Rip Van Winkle. That's not from New Orleans, bro.

That's from Kentucky. Rip Van Winkle fell in hell asleep. That's what you're talking about? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Damn, that shit. Rip Van Winkle fell in hell asleep. Rip Van Winkle fell in hell asleep. That shit is not from New Orleans.

Don't listen to this guy.... in Wonderland. Hey. From Kentucky. Rip Van Winkle. That shit is not from New Orleans. Don't listen to this guy. From Kentucky. Run DMC talking about that. Rip Van Winkle was this fucker that slept for 20 years or some shit. The history of...

Let's get back to Jay-Z being on the record. Alright. Y'all get Jay-Z on the record. He's saying Universal. Juvie sees the vision. The rest of Cash Money doesn't really see the vision. Yeah. Oh, no.

Slim Noodle. All right. Slim Noodle. So do you see it or not? Yeah, because I'm a DJ. I know who all of these people are. But what I'm saying was Juvie was our closest reality to real songs and everything else that was going on. Everything happening outside of hip hop.

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I was like, this dude is a hip-hop fan. You know what I'm saying? I could tell by his cadence and shit that he was doing. Everybody else grew up in New Orleans. The rule was, don't leave New Orleans. And it was a beautiful thing. Who's saying that? That's Juvie's mentality? No, it was just the mentality there.

You got to think like fucking Hurricane Katrina. What made us fucking crazy ass beasts was we never been out our neighborhood. Right. We never been off a street. You know what I'm saying? If you in New Orleans, you shop in your neighborhood.

The grocery store in your neighborhood. You don't even block. The gas station in your neighborhood. All of that. So to go somewhere else in the world, you just like, what the fuck is going on in the world? You feel what I'm saying?

A lot of people left New Orleans and never came back because of that. So let me ask y'all. So the record comes out. It's the remix. Jay-Z's on the record. How does that change everything? It really didn't change everything. It just solidified to us that we are on our way.

Truthfully, be honest, it helped Jay-Z a lot, too, in the South. Absolutely. I believe that. I believe that heartily. Because they wasn't listening to him. We wasn't listening. I'm going to be honest. I was listening to him.

But a lot of people. It showed that he was in tune with the South at a point. Yeah. But it also differentiated because it was like, who was the two people from the South? Is it Master P? Is it No Limit? Or is it? So you're thinking Jay-Z picked the side?

Cash money. You're right. For a long time, for a long time, especially from the beginning, for us, that's what we always was up against. And we really didn't want that. You know, we wanted to make our own. Yeah. We grew up with everybody that was on No Limit. Because I used to go out with a lot, have the people on No Limit.

So there was no beef, really. There was no beef. It turned into that. But there was no beef. We grew up with all of these dudes. Either I DJed in the club with you, shook hands with you, you just picked a side. You went that way. You know, or I went this way. It's like the two record labels that were available, you just picked a side. You went that way, or I went this way. It's like the two record labels that were available,

you just went that way. Yeah, but like he said, literally, we so small, we all grew up together. It was little things that rubbed us both the wrong way on both sides. But it was up to us to entertain it or not. People, fan base, it's kind of like we was pitted against each other. You know, and the fans

wanted to see us go against each other. Nah. Early on, our blueprint, our blueprint, Suave House, Rap-A-Lot. Absolutely, yeah. You know what I'm saying?

We grew up... Draper and them. Yeah, we watched Draper and we watched fucking Rap-A-Lot do some incredible things. You know what I, and we watched fucking rap a lot. Do some incredible things. You know what I'm saying? And still strive.

And still strive. Like, you know, that family, this is what y'all need to do. Y'all got to be a family house to make this work. And Cash Money took it to the next level. Yeah. Absolutely to the next level. Yeah. Yeah. It was all love, though, man.

Fun doing it. Fuck yeah. I probably wouldn't do it no other different way because it gets me to be right here. Fuck yeah. Yeah.

Yo. Yeah. Quick time with slime. I'm ready. You got a quick time with slime? We ready. We got a quick time with slime? Come on, let's go.

Real quick. We're doing a quick time with slime here? Let's go. Wild. Give it to EFN. What? My quick time with slime? Quick time with slime. Give it to EFN. What? My quick time with slime?

Quick time with slime. Are y'all ready? You ready? I guess we got a quick time with slime. All right. Wait, now we got the rules. Y'all don't know the rules about quick time with slime? What's the rules?

We're going to give you two choices. Okay. You pick one. We good? Yeah. If you say both or neither, we drinking. All of us are drinking. Damn.

Oh, man. And the whole audience is drinking look on look under your seats you got a shot And I'll be ill that'll be the Ellis quick time with slime ever They don't have nothing to drink but it's a scam can. Can I still get some ice? I just want some ice. I gotta take a humongous... Yeah, yeah, E. I drank all of it. Y'all ready? Yeah.

Let's go. I got a case on the way, though. All right. So we're gonna let you, either or could answer this. Jay-Z or Nas. Listen, you guys can't answer for that. Yeah, y'all can't. For me?

Well, how about, you know, I'm going to make it easier. Juvie, Jay-Z or Nas? Jay-Z. All right. Manny. Jay. I was going to switch it up on you. Oh, you're switching up on me.

What's my question? All right. Scarface or Cube? Face. Damn, you switching up on me. What's my what's my question? All right scarface a cube face Hey Hey, juvie Who wrote this shit, bro, I'm gonna have to fight motherfuckers after Lucy or Kevin Gates Lucy Lucy yeah Man Wayne or Drake

Young waning We don't write this shit is these fucking idiots back here so or need a show we're production crew Juvie you ready? Let's go. Outcast at UGK. Damn. Ooh. Damn, son. UGK.

You can say both and we drinking. Both. Get your drink under your chair. Manny. Bro. Manny. Both. Fuck. That one was tough. Keep going, Dalek. Get your drink under your chair hey many Both fuck yeah, that being that was tough you going down a night Manny NBA what Hi, let's let let's let young Charlie at the same answer

Eight ball or three six months. Oh, hey boy MJ, or 3-6 Mafia? Oh, shit. Both. That's Memphis at their best. Yeah, we drinking on that. Both. All right, let's drink. We all got to drink. We all got to drink.

Both. Charlie, fuck you, bro. All right. Juvie, NBA, Youngboy, or Kodak? Yeah. Both, Both. Both. Both. Both. Man, both.

Cheers to the youngins. Both. They're my buddies, man. Both of them. Damn. I'm drinking too. Cheechy get the A.U. Y'all won't give me no ice.

All right, man. Are you ready? Yeah. Woo! Organized noise or beats by the pound? Damn. That was a good one. Beats by the pound.

Are you OK? You stay normal. You stay normal. You stay normal. You stay normal. Organized noise or beats by the pound? Damn. Beats by the pound. Are you okay? You stay in New Orleans. I'm fucking right. You're home team. When I get home, I got to fight them niggas.

I thought I was tough on them. Be safe. I love both of them. I still live in New Orleans. I got to. Juvieie What's up Baby and Slim Damn

Give him a shot They go together This is where we get fucked up man Give him a shot I don't like these drinks Who wrote these questions what the fuck Yeah we got some weird people back there writing these questions. Him, not me.

Him. Can they give me some ice, bro? Thank you, sir. Oh, no, I don't want to. I'm, oh, I'm. Juvie, it's too late. It's too late, Juvie. Ah, that's it.

That's it. He said, uh-huh. All right. He said, we still got to unfold. All right, Manny. They got to perform tonight, guys. Yeah. Let them live. Let them live. I'm me let me whiskey brother. Let's go. Love Julie. I'm Annie for you BG or Turk both Come on, man. We drink it both. Oh

Drink both. That's the not matter it. Oh, I just mad. I got a drink. Yeah. Oh Fuck I'm not mad at it. I'm just mad I got a drink. Oh, fuck. All right, Juvie, you ready? Yes. Let's go, let's go. Jesus loves me. Y'all like the game? Yeah.

All right, cool. Juvie. What's up? Bad boy or death row? Damn. Damn. Damn. Death row. I like Biggie, so both.

I was thinking again. I feel like I've got both. Nothing? All right. That's like saying Tupac and Biggie. That's the same thing. Yeah, it's true. I just told you I like them both.

All right, Manny, it's on you now, okay? Okay, this is this is my 305 family right here. So trick daddy or JT money poison clan damn trick trick JT Who that who that that's that's JT money you saying right now, but I'm saying I'm saying. That was JT Money you're saying right now. I'm making everybody happy. All right, all right.

All right. All right, Juve, you ready? Jeezy or T.I.? Say it again. Jeezy or T.I.? T.I., that's my dog, T.I. T.I. I don't like this one guys. This is our family that passed away, bro. So rest in peace. This for you Manny. Gangsta boo or me acts? bro, both. They deserve that. Both. Both. Yeah.

Alright, Juvie. What's up? Jay-Z or Rakim? Jay-Z, man. Jay-Z. Okay. Thinking of a master plan. But let's ask you. That was like a, like, that's crazy.

Nor is like, what the fuck just happened? No, I'm being honest. Like you know, you are a new artist. And this is the number one artist from New York City. How does this phone call happen? Who calls you? Who? Jay-Z? No, no, no.

Who calls you from your camp? Jay-Z didn't call him, though. I'm asking. Say that again. I'm lost. It didn't happen, bro. I'm asking. Say that again. I'm lost. It didn't happen, bro. I'm a new artist. Y'all know Nori say shit.

Y'all got to figure it out. Give him a second. I got to figure it out. Man, he knew what I was saying. Jay-Z got different... I mean, Jay-Z. Nori got different stories on this. No, I'm asking.

I'm going to be honest. See, they... I don't know who called who. I don't even know how the order went. It just happened, bro. They just sent... He sent the verse in. They played it to me. I don't know who called who. I don't even know how the order went. It just happened, bro. He sent the verse in. They played it to me. I don't know if it was somebody in or something talking to him.

They told us the story one way. They said he did it and he sent it to us. I was asked if I had an instrumental to hum. I was like, yeah. I didn't know who the fuck it was going to. They asked you for instrumental. you the leak so you leaked it the instrumental yeah so I said I didn't know who the instrumental was going to I just thought

the record label needed an instrumental so I said yeah I did not know yeah yeah yeah listen it was Ovi baby yeah and he knew it was Hov? Yeah. I did not know, bro. Yo, yo, yo. Yo, yo, yo. Yeah. Listen. It wasn't something. Hovi, baby. Yeah. Manny knew it was going. Yeah. Fresh like Manny B.

Chain on antifreeze. You know what I'm saying? When fucking Hov give you a blessing, you good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Manny knew where it was going to. Yeah.

Yeah. Fuck it. Somewhat. Somewhat. Somewhat. I had an idea. But I'm like, damn, he sent that bitch back that's badass we had a classic record out of it hey no he's just happier than in the world i'm happy i'm happy

yeah yeah was you're not happy no absolutely let me ask you something. Yes. When, what, what, what, what, when that shit took off? Y'all niggas was in the desert dancing and all kind of shit. When that shit took off, how did you feel? You got to stand up and do that dance. Because I... No, no, I was kidding. I was kidding. What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what?

Yeah. You know, that was y'all's shit, and that was Pharrell's shit. That was the beginning. Hold on, hold on. Let me just say something. When cash money was lit, and they had the best shit in the world, there's no one in the world that could have ever fucked with cash money. Can everybody stand up and make some noise for fucking cash money.

Thank y'all. Juvenile and motherfucking Manny fucking. Hey! We love these motherfuckers. We here. They tried to put it on me, but they ain't got nothing to do with me. That's how I got on. You know what they got to do with?

Yeah. You motherfuckers. You motherfuckers changed the game. Changed the motherfucking game. They changed the motherfucking game. Hold on. Yo, New Face, you here, bro? Yeah, where's New Face?

Let's go, New Face. We about to end this right now. Hold on, but you know your new face you here bro. Yeah, let's go new face We're about to end this right now Right. So it happened to love a albums new face you got the albums. Yeah, you ain't got the albums Come on, show them the albums. Yeah, we're about to wrap it right now. Oh, that's my bro, right? It's got the class yeah, we got two class g. Yeah. Yeah make some noise for new face, please New face. Yeah Let me tell y'all without hip-hop historians like new face. We lose our history new face. You got the blade. Okay, it's Swiss on it All right News or history? New Face, you got the blazer and Swiss on it? Yeah. Come on.

All right. Got the classic right here. Go ahead. Give him a mic, goddamn. Look at this. Man. Yeah. What is that like, man?

Yeah. Yeah. And he already have the autograph on him, too. Yeah. That brother everywhere. That brother everywhere, though. Stop playing. The one thing I do want to say. What do you want to say?

I got some from New Orleans. Yeah, yeah. What you know about this album right here? Bust Down? Hell yeah. Bust Down? What you know about that? What's that thing?

What you know about that? Yeah. Now, that wasn't him. Hell yeah, brother. Yeah. Yo, let me just tell y'all something. We here with motherfucking Manny Fresh. Give him a second, y'all. Another time?

And Juvenile. We let him know another time. And what we want to say is we love you motherfuckers. I fuck with you. And we love you motherfuckers. And we love you motherfuckers. And we love you motherfuckers. And we love you motherfuckers. And we love you motherfuckers. And we love you motherfuckers. And we love you motherf to say is, we love you motherfuckers.

I fuck with you. And we love you motherfuckers. And we love you motherfuckers. Thank you, guys. Thank you, motherfuckers. Hey, brother. But this is like, you know, this is the pre. We're going to do this again in Miami.

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