Drink Champs - Episode 396 w/ G Herbo

Episode Date: February 9, 2024

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs in this episode the champs chop it up with the one and only, G Herbo!G Herbo shares his journey in Hip-Hop. The Chicago native shares stories of coming up, creating music and much much more!Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!Make some noise for G Herbo!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 🎉🎉🎉 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com  Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps  DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions  N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's DJ E-F-N. And this is Militain. We yabba yabba. Make some noise. Now, this brother here, man, comes from one of the craziest cities in the world. He's been putting this down since 2011. Everybody in the industry,

nobody has nothing bad to say about him. Did I? Did I? Came in crossword. This is our first episode of 2024. Nobody has nothing bad to say about him that I, that I came across with. This is our first episode of 2024. We are so happy to be back and to introduce Chi Town's own, the one and only motherfucking G Herbo. What's going on?

What's going on? What's the word, big bro? What's going on? Good, man. I'm happy to be here, man. Okay. You and Funny Marco, y'all good? Yeah, hell yeah, man. I saw that today, too. So what happened? Just tell the people, because I know you did a phone call explaining some of it.

But, Jamie, can I get a drink? I want the Stollys with club soda and lemon. Go ahead. So what happened? So, look, Marco, first and foremost, that's my man. We already had a relationship prior to doing the interview and shit. So originally, Sizzle was supposed to do the interview, the episode, and they heard that his production staff told us to troll him. It was supposed to be a surprise to come on there to troll him.

Oh, we weren't originally just on bullshit with him, but we was a little like off the sauce. We was a little extra overboard, but the whole thing was to come on there, like intimidate him on his own show, like pulling him on him. Right.

Pulling him on him. Yeah. And we, I spoke to him like before it even came out and you know i'm saying we was good like okay i mean i ain't know if it was like a confusion between our staff and his production team where they was thinking we didn't want it to come out we was like no it's cool it ain't really tripping you feel i'm saying like public perception and what people gonna take from it that's another thing but that's the name of the game that's what come with it, you feel me saying?

We gotta be able to take that, you feel me? But it wasn't like no bad blood or no shit like that, you know what I'm saying? Like, I know they was, because he was saying like after it came out, my foot was like, no, take it down, take it down. Like, we ain't never do that. Like, I ain't never tell him like,

no, bro, you got us looking crazy and shit like that. It was still all love, you feel me saying? Was you surprised How viral that went Yeah I was Right Where was you at When it happened Yeah yeah

Like I mean like When you I was in Atlanta I had hit him Like I had hit him And told him like No it's good You feel what I'm saying

Like the shit with The watch and all that shit Be like bro I got you I'm fucked up You know what I'm saying Did y'all throw his hat or something at one point? Bro, I don't know what he was doing. Yo, I was doing the dirty.

So, what you was about to say? But no, I was like, it's all love, bro. I know like how it came out to the internet, it looked like nigga was on some bullying shit. Yeah, that was a word that was thrown around a lot. It was bullying. And that's when I really took it serious, but I didn't want to put nothing on the internet.

I don't know how to really play the internet game. Right. Go back and forth, even when it's defending myself. You know what I'm saying? I know if it's real love between me and Bruin, we got to understand that that was all that mattered to me, as long as he knew the respect between us was still the same. You don't got to say no, no.

You know what I'm saying? I mean, me, outside of looking in, I saw it. I thought that was a joke that everybody was in on. Right, in on it, right. Yeah. I'm telling you, like, it was the whole point was to come and, like, troll him and intimidate him on the show. But then when they tried to spin it, like, we was on some bullying and shit, that's when I'm like, no, I ain't really with that, you feel me? Because I got fans that probably, you know what I'm saying, got situations with bullying, and I ain't with that. I got kids, you feel me? Because I got fans that probably, you know what I'm saying, got sick situations with bullying, and I ain't with that.

I got kids, you feel me? Right. Because he always does that awkward stare, right? Like he's trying to make you seem like you ain't making sense. That's why I'm scared of that show. That's his whole interview style. You got to really like this. I don't want to make me look stupid.

I am kind of a little stupid. The people who had the best interviews with him, the people who could like troll him back. Yeah. Trying to switch it back on. All right. Yeah, that's what we do it. The people who had the best interviews with him, the people who could troll him back. Yeah. Trying to switch it back on. All right. Yeah, that's what we thought. Right.

Let's make some noise for you, man. You told him that. Now, we all heard the rumors of you supposed to be going to jail for five years. Yeah. By the grace of God, you know what I mean? You motherfucking cop. You was on vacation, but you left on probation.

Goddamn. Goddamn. Let me drink to that for sure. Yeah, drink to that. Goddamn. Jesus. Oh, shit. That's, you know, swaggering like the Catwoman. Holy moly.

So, what happened? Like, you got to be fucking ecstatic. Man, hell yeah, man. You know, God, man, for real. Right. We got to get all praise to God for sure. But just, you know, staying along, staying the course and a lot of money for sure. You know what I'm saying?

A lot of money to stay free. And at the end of the day, it was taking accountability, you feel me, for a minor role in some shit, you know what I'm saying? And just me being a kid, being aides to the fact, I don't, like, everybody that know me, and I'm being personal, like, I did some shit I really was able to sit across from my judge and tell him, like, you know what I'm saying? I barely know I even used my cell phone,

like, I ain't never committed fraud against nobody, you know what I'm saying? You're being sincere. You feel me, like, I was accepted full accountability for whatever my role was in the whole situation, you know what I'm saying? You're being sincere. You feel me? I was accepting full accountability for whatever my role was in the whole situation, you feel what I'm saying? I wasn't doing that to further my career, nothing like that. What, they thought you was doing PPP loans?

Nah, they thought I was doing some shit like basically using funds or fraud or cards or whatever identity or some shit to fund videos and shit like that. I've been making money since I was 16 years old off rap already. I was already well off when that whole situation occurred. You feel what I'm saying? It was basically me paying for goods. Like, if I'm a jet, I'm paying half for this shit. If it's $40,000, I pay $20,000.

I got to have cash already to do this shit. You feel what I'm saying? So it was a situation like that. But I was 17,000, I paid 20,000. I got to have cash already to do this shit, you feel what I'm saying? So it was a situation like that. But I was 17, 18 at the time, I'm 28, you feel me? My judge know I never even think about committing any type of crimes, I'm a real, you feel what I'm saying? Father, law abiding citizen, I pay taxes, you feel what I'm saying?

So it's really just was me accepting full accountability as a man and my judge really knowing, you know what I'm saying, I'm trying to steer straight and be on the up and up, you feel me, and really, I believe in being vulnerable and just talking about situations, because you know it'll help the next generation, it'll help the youth, somebody looking up to me,

feel what I'm saying, because you got to just accept accountability about it, and whatever role, or whatever you do in life, and whatever it is, you got to be able to just stand up and take whatever punishment, if there is a punishment. You feel what I'm saying? And my judge knew I was willing to do that, and by the grace of God, he let me walk out with probation.

You a black judge? White judge. White judge. Space some noise for a white judge? I don't know. Make some noise for the judge. I don't know. Make some noise for the judge, baby.

Make some noise for my judge. I appreciate it. For sure, he definitely gave me grace. You feel what I'm saying? I had my family in there. Right. I was able to walk out a free man. Right. Nah, God damn it.

God damn it. One thing that's just so, like, me going through life, right? I always know, like, the guy with the ice grill, he's probably not the guy that, like, he's throwing up a front. One thing about you, you smile. And I believe your smile. Yeah. That lets me know that you've been through a lot. Appreciate it, bro.

Because when a motherfucker can smile and is sincere, like when you smile, I smile. Like I be seeing you like, I be like, yeah, nigga. I don't know what you're going through. You was listening to my song one day. Puerto Rico. And you was having a Puerto Rico he's having a goddamn ball I was like damn I'm not I'm not there but I can tell without you you you know you don't have to be bragging or whatever whatever I could tell you've been through things is is rap

something that is it all that you you thought it was to be? Yeah, it's like on the flip side, though. Okay, like meaning? Like what I mean and what I thought it was going to be as far as like the pros that come with it, nah. But like just the responsibility of what you take on and just like actually like, I believe in like purpose and debt. Like I really feel like I was meant to do anything I'm doing that. All adversity, everything I ever had to overcome, that's why I'm able to smile. That's why I just be so grateful for any situation. I take the bad with the good, and I don't really look at the bad like it's a bad.

I just try to learn whatever situation I'm going through so I can come out on top of it. That's why I'm able to just be able to smile through all the bullshit so what I mean like I felt like what I mean by when I said yeah it was everything I thought it was gonna be because I really vision here vision for this even as when I first like made a decision like I've been off and I really do this rap show and what age was that when you made that decision Contichie? Yeah, like, on the serious tip, like, yeah,

like, 16 years old. 16, 17 years old. For real, for real. I was like, I always had a vision to be this one day. Like, I always wanted to do it the independent route,

bet on myself, you feel what I'm saying? I always had aspirations of being able to be in a conversation with, like, you know what I'm saying? My peers and the greatest.

Like, I'm saying this because I'm a humble nigga, I don't want to jump the gun, but I always wanted to be considered like a legend. Like, I looked up to the hoes, the Waynes, and I wanted to be considered like one of them. Well, you a legend, nigga. You a legend, nigga. You here, that's where you at.

That's where the fuck we at, brother. Go ahead, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you got me hyped. For real though, bro, so it's not, I knew what it was going to take to get there, so I took everything that came with this shit, all the ugly, and I never complained about it. I just did it, and it always benefited me, because now I'm here, like you said, you feel what I'm saying?

So it's like, that's what I mean on the flip side of it, because it ain't always like glitter and gold. People on the outside looking in, they think this shit's sweet, like it's easy, you feel what I'm saying? What's some of the ugly, so people could... Glitter and gold people on the outside looking in they think this shit sweet like it's oh, yeah What's some of the ugly so people could ugly is just being able to Take a loss or whatever the loss is you know I'm saying because all this shit come with losses and trials and tribulations And I'm able to take that especially as a man and a leader like I was just talking to my brother the other day like

Everybody don't got the ability to be able to lead In general like not even with no music, just your household, everybody in the family. I just told them, like, everybody going to stop what they doing and follow you if that's what you say. If you say go left, people going to go left. Like, the ability to lead, I always hear that. So when you got that, it's a lot of weight that come on your shoulders. Responsibility. I've been in that role since I was 16, 17 years old.

So it's like all the ugly, that's the downs that come with that shit because it's like you got to deal with family, you got to deal with music, you got to make all the sacrifices to be like, or what about any means

type of, you know what I'm saying, shit attitude. You feel me? Like it's whatever it takes for me to get there. Sometimes you might hurt the people you love

along the way. Sometimes you might lose people along the way, but by any means I'm still going to get there. You feel what I'm saying? A lot of people don't really got that drive and that dedication. And that shit like a gift and a curse

because it put a lot of stress on you. I had a lot of stress on me since I was a kid. You feel me? But I always just took that shit and rode it and made that shit look easy. You know what I'm saying? Like niggas say I'm smiling, but it's like you don't know what a nigga going through.

I'm just grateful for everything that that come with this shit you feel me So we can't have a bad day as a rapper that can't have a bad day Can't have a bad if you're not in the mood to take a picture stay home Do the shows don't go I'm saying you can't have no bad days no matter what you feel right? You know how that shit. Yeah, um when you think Drake is sending that cook Well, I'm gonna get on Drake as I just feel like it's coming for a poker bro I fuck a bro I really I ain't gonna lie I got out of like the mood of just sending songs though I'll be having so much going on so you trying to tell you you Drake actually to send

the song and you said no no I sent them the song I sent them songs but I really No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, We didn't have the option to send verses. If you had to do a record with Fat Joe. It was real chemistry. You had to go to the studio.

They had to go to their studio or they had to go to your studio. There was chemistry there in the studio. There was chemistry and yet you build a bond. That comes through in the music. I feel like my best shit come out like that anyways though. You got together. Yeah. You got a lot of features.

So you telling me most of your features is. Yeah, I'll be here. I'll pull up. I'll be pulling up. You'll go to them? I'll be here, yeah. Okay. For real.

All right, we're going to get to that because you got a lot of features, God damn it. I ain't going to lie. Everybody in hip-hop love you. Yeah, I don't know. I heard you say one time that you don't think

hip-hop love you back. I was saying that on some, like, not the industry, but not the love that you actually get from being in hip-hop. Uh-huh. What I mean, like,

you know how that shit go? Like, they love you, they hate you, then they love you again. Yeah. That's for everything. You got to overcome, yeah, all the adversity. So if you don't know that, if people don't take that, that's what I mean, like, you got to look at it like

they don't love you back, so you don't expect nothing. Just do you, you feel what I'm saying? Gotcha. Nah. No, but I know what he's saying. I'm talking about like, Yo, nigga. We love you, nigga.

You know that. Hip-hop, we love you, we cook your kind of thing. Nah, nah, I can't, because I know you'll's saying. I'm talking about like, yeah, we love you nigga. You know that. Hip hop, we love you. We cook your cunt's dick. Nah, I can't, because I know you, that's a strategy he's saying though. That's how you, that's the way he's approaching it.

Yeah, I get that. I also heard Bruce Lee say, never play, talk about yourself wrong, because your body doesn't understand your plan. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

I get that too though. You know what I mean? I try to get deep. Come on man, you ain't going to let me get deep. You know what I'm saying? I get that too, though. You know what I mean? I try to get deep. Come on, man. You ain't going to let me get deep? You got to get deep. You got to get deep. Come on.

Jesus. I get that, though. That was FYI shit right there. Come on. Because we're thinking that, you know, sometimes it just puts you in a mindset of like you not being as motivated because you're like, fuck it, I don't care. You know what I'm saying? I'll be trying to put myself in a mindset to always be motivated.

I don't want to have no day just thinking about negative shit to all right I got to do some like productive in some type of way Let me let me let me ask you um about about your city right one thing that I used to go to the Chicago I know I got family in Chicago got Spanish and black family in Chicago. They don't talk to each other But yeah, they gang they opposite gangs. They don't fuck with each other. And I'm not the nigga that's going to try to bring them together to the...

They not family. Right. Oh, I guess... You understand what I'm saying? Because heck, he got Puerto Rican family that are family that don't talk to each other.

don't fuck with black guys in Chicago. Yeah, I got that too. But Chi-town, Chicago is a beautiful city. But then it's The flip side Do you still live in Chi-town? No, no, hell no

I just go back to go visit family And go take care of business I've been That was one of the things That I did first I just had to get in the mental head space Where I couldn't be in Chicago That shit was too

It was crowding me I got out of Chicago When I was like 21, 22 years old. Yeah, I've been out of that. You believe that most rappers, the downfall is staying in their own city? For sure. Yeah? Hell yeah.

Because it ain't even got a lot to do with the hate, it's just the, you know, the comfortability too. You feel you get too comfortable around your people, everybody know you, you get accessible, like a lot of this shit, you got to lead and become bigger than the city. I'll tell you,

when I go to New York, it's the worst thing for me because one, I don't know how to not answer the phone. I got that problem. You got that problem? Get out of that. Get out of that. I've been going through it for 20 years. You don't want that problem. You got to learn how to cut people off.

I don't, because I... Yeah, I'll be trying, and then I'll eventually steal answers. Yeah, I know I'm not supposed to be with this dude. I know him. I know it. I posted a picture at Newark Airport. This dude hits me.

I tell him where the hotel is. He smells like cocaine still. He just left the block. Why would I, why would I do this? What am I trying to prove? I still got connections. I do it every time. It's the comfortability.

I'm telling you, nigga, just comfortable. Like, all right, these my peoples. All right. Holy moly guacamoles. But so for a person who's never been to Chi-Town, can you describe it? I always do. Like, everybody that's never been there, they feel like it's just the wild, wild west. Like, there's a war zone.

They're just running around there. There's guns everywhere. It's really, like you said, that shit's super beautiful. Yeah. You got good-ass food, a lot of good restaurants. When I'm in the city, I don't really go to my old neighborhood. I don't be over there. You feel me?

I be low-key downtown and all the beautiful parts and shit. So it's like when you go down there, you got good shopping, good food. You feel me? But you just got to be in that realm of things. You feel me? Once you go to Chicago and you want some tourist shit, trying to go ride through old block. Oh, old block. Yeah, yeah.

Don't do that. But that's like any city. That's like any city. Everybody try to do that now. You feel me? Like tourists and yeah. Don't do that. But that's like any city. That's like any city. Everybody try to do that now. You feel what I'm saying? Like tours and shit. I used to do that every place I used to go. I used to do that too though.

As soon as it's touched down, you're going to go to the trenches. Immediately, you're going to go to whatever hood right there. You feel what I'm saying? You know, but we know what came with that back then. Right, right.

It's before the really, like when I started traveling, 2011, 2012, going to New York, going to all these places and stuff like really, like when I started traveling 2011, 2012, going to New York, going to all these places and stuff like that, like internet wasn't really super lit like that.

Everybody wasn't posting everything, you feel me? So we was going right to the hood as soon as we touched down to any place, you feel me? But now people going down

to the hood, they record, you wear out, you broadcasting where you at, you feel me? Anything coming down, you a tourist.

It ain't even gotta be the people Who from around there That fuck with you You feel what I'm saying You don't know who Watching your page You feel me like And they know you

Before you ever know who they are Exactly You feel me But like Chicago is smooth I ain't gonna lie I go back home Cause I love being with my family

It's a beautiful city man Hell yeah I tell people all the time You go out there You really enjoy yourself It's shit Little spots You can go kick it Chill It's a place you really enjoy yourself. It's shit. You little spots. You can go kick it.

Chill. It's a place you can be with your kids and shit. You know what I'm saying? It's super smooth. And you got beaches out there, too. Yeah, we got beaches. The lakes, right? All type of shit.

Oh, it's lakes? No, they got beaches. It's a lake. No, it's a lake, bro. No, it's a beach by all means. Yeah, it's a beach by all means. Beaches, but it's basically Lake Michigan over here. Yeah, bro.

What you think? It was by an ocean? Man, what the fuck? You think I can see a beach? It's a lake, over here. Yeah, bro. What you think? It was by an ocean? Man, what the fuck? You think I can see a beach? It's a lake, but it's a lake. We only got some shit in Chicago, man. What ocean were they on? Except for, I can't lie to you.

My brother brought me to, he said, one of the number one pizza spots in the world. Chicago style? It was called. Come on. You got to eat the pizza with a fork and a knife. I love that shit, though. That's not enough. They took you to Giordano's. He tried to get you a deep dish. Come on, man. I'm from Chicago. I fuck with the deep dish, but people from Chicago really don't eat deep dish, bro. Really? Yeah, that's right. Because New York, we got the best life.

That's like for tourism. We got the best pizza. Stop it, man. Yeah, you want to clap? You know New York got the best pizza. New York got the best pizza. Nah, Detroit pizza's good, man. Yeah, you want to clap? You know New York got the best pizza. New York got the best pizza. Nah, Detroit pizza's good, though. I ain't never heard Detroit pizza. I like Detroit style pizza. That was a trap, Steve. I never heard Detroit style. I ain't never heard nobody mention Detroit.

I ain't never heard nobody mention Detroit pizza. God damn, Steve. And what are you going to say? JK, just joking. No, no, no. Detroit's good. For real? Yeah.

Just kidding. No, no, it's dope. It's dope. Jesus, Detroit. Big up to Trick Trick. You know for real. Just kidding. No, no, it's dope. It's dope. Jesus, Detroit. But big up to Trick Trick. You know, those are my people out there. Ah, shit. Ah, boom.

You really got bulletproof cars? Yeah, hell yeah. Are they heavier? Yeah, they heavy. Of course they're heavier. Yeah, heavy as hell. You got a bulletproof. Put me on.

Put me on. I got level six. I'm going to fuck a bombproof or anything. Man, bombproof. The Cad me on. I got level six. I'm going to fuck a bomb-proof or anything. Damn, bomb-proof. The Cadillac. Cadillac truck. I'm going to fuck like, pay like $284. That's not bad, actually.

But you're not trying to go to war or nothing? Nah, I'm trying to make sure I get home. Like, I ain't going to lie, bro. Growing up in the streets, like, I always had a mask. I never put nobody I love in harm's way, no matter, like, even with, like, I'm just paranoid. I don't even be having shit going on. I get real love in my city, bro. Like, I be able to pop out and shit.

But I always, like, even, like, what I'm saying is when I was young as a kid, like, I never, when I used to drive cars, I always had a car at 16, 17. I never used to have my mama in the car. I never used to have my sister in the car. I never used to have my sister in the car because I just was paranoid if anything happened, I'm putting people that I love in harm's way. I always said I'm going to be there to make sure my people safe when I really get some real money, you feel me? So I'm riding with my kids.

I want to make sure no matter what, my kids, everybody that I love, family is safe when we ride in Chicago because you never know what happens. Blue Jewel Cars are just for Chicago? Yeah, for real. Okay, okay. Yeah, Chicago like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're going to make nobody want to go to Chicago right now. No, it ain't even that. It's just like you don't ever know what happens. You know, it's dangerous everywhere. Between what you just said and Kanye, this is looking for Chicago. It's dangerous everywhere. I'm fucking with you.

Chicago just like, it's different. You know what I'm saying? Like you never, and what I'm saying is I'm from there. You never know who love you, it's different, you know what I'm saying? Like, you never, and what I'm saying is, I'm from there. You never know who love you, who hate you, you feel what I'm saying? So it's like, I got to make sure I'm straight at all times. I don't take no chance. Is that Chicago? Is that everywhere, kind of?

Is just Chicago more on it? I mean, everywhere. A lot of rappers, you know what I'm saying, go back home and feel like that, you feel me? Especially, you know, that paranoia, not, you know what i'm saying go back home and feel like that you feel me especially you know that paranoia not you know you gotta always be on point anyway because you're an artist everybody know you gotta like you showing love you don't know if they're look real or not you just gotta always be on your square all the time you know what's crazy about um that's what i feel like being in chicago because i don't know who was who all right you know what's crazy about chicago um i remember at one point i used to go to Queensbridge,

right? It used to be A&R. It's just hanging out in Queensbridge. They didn't know they was in the most drug-infested place in the world. They just sitting there trying to find another Nas, and they're sitting there trying to find another Mobb Deep. It's so many people that go to Iraq trying to find another version of y'all, and they putting themselves in harm's way. Yeah, sometimes niggas will do that, though. way sometimes Take that risk. I know that's why you guys shout the Mickey hostage, bro That was then when I first started rapping that was my that was my manager at a time He when I first met him bra was

What? 16 17 years old man probably now I was 15 like 15 16 and I Always been bad with phones. You see how I just pulled up my phone all cracked up and shit, I've been like that. And I always lose phones, like so, and I know numbers about hard, I promise you, I know everybody know that be with me about hard and shit.

So I used to like not have a phone and not really get no fucking, just be standing on the block posted up all day cause shit, that's what everybody outside anyway, if I could get in touch with whoever, but he really used to pull up looking for me on my block.

Right. When I'm 15 years old with his family, got his kids, his wife in the car, his kids, like two, three years old,

he pulling up, like, what a hurry, man, you feel what I'm saying? Because he was trying to be my manager and shit, you feel what I'm saying?

And that made me gravitate to him. I'm like, damn, this nigga really pulling up right here with his family. In a dangerous zone. In a dangerous red zone. Same knife and shit. You feel what I'm saying? And that made me gravitate to him. I'm like, damn, this nigga really pulling up right here with his family. The danger zone. And the danger's red zone.

Same life and essence. Pulling up four, five times, like straight. come on, shorty, I'll fuck with you. I'm like,

damn, he solid for that with his family though. He coming from church doing this too. It's a little crazy. Wow. But how was it

working with Juice WRLD? Man, Juice was, he was like a, if you could describe it, It's a little crazy Wow But how was it Working with Juice WRLD? Man Juice He was like a If you could describe it It's like one of them Like One of the

Billion Phenomenons Like when you see him I ain't even I'm not even being funny Like the When you When we first

Ever met Juice And we just used to see His recording process Alone Like how he used to Get in the studio And make Like six songs in a row, but damn this, like he done made 12, 13 songs

because for each song he doing two, three covers with different patterns. Like he not saying the same shit, not using the same hook. He doing this for like five, six songs straight but making two, three covers. And the first shit he's saying so hard, we not wanting him to erase it.

We like, what the fuck? Wait, he's erasing it afterwards? Yeah, he ain't even using it no more. Oh, he not stashing one version of the other? No, hell no. He just using the one he want to use. We like, man, like it was some crazy shit. We never seen nothing like that, man.

And his ass just like was really in love with the craft, like, the art of it. You feel what I'm saying? And it was weird working with him, like, at first. And, like, because he was, like, his shit, he's such a natural, rare talent. And that was back when I was doing this deal, writing verses. Took me a long time. Like, I'll be off the top now. Okay, I heard applause.

I heard applause. I heard applause. Yeah, but that was like when I was really steel rain shit on the phone, and he used to go so quick, freestyling, and that shit was so hard, I'm like, it's taking me a long time, and you feel me? I felt like I couldn't really vibe like that, but he one of the reasons why I stopped writing a little bit like I just used to like go out the valve with him here make you do 10-15 songs like you

found Sam because I'm looking at it like I ain't gonna lie it was crazy now I'm looking back at it and that it little bro did like I wasn't really realizing like how much he really looked up to me you feel what I'm saying like like on the like him being a fan of my music

I'm so a fan of his shit cause I'd never seen nothing like him before and he's so big but he's just such a genuine person he not even really realizing how big he is

for real for real he happy to just be doing what he doing you feel what I'm saying like he trying to do songs with me cause he thinking he stacking up 15 G Herbo verses and I'm saying? He trying to do songs with me because he thinking he's stacking up

15 G Herbo verses and I'm telling him like, shorty, you the biggest shit in the world. I'm not finna be rapping on all these songs because all these not even finna come out, bro. You on some pop star shit. We might drop one of these for my out, one of these for yours for real, but I feel like he was challenging me

to be better too. You feel me? But I'm not even looking at it like that. It was just, that nigga, when I look back at it, that's like, I never seen nobody like that, you feel me? And I didn't heard that shit from Pluto, from Thug, from motherfuckers that, them really the goats of this shit, you know what I'm saying? That really didn't lock in with bro,

and seeing his recording process and feeling like that's some shit they ain't ever seen before. You know what I mean? His little ass was different. Do you think Juice WRLD saw how big he was prior to him passing? I mean, yeah. I feel like, yeah. And then, no one away could just know him. He's so humble.

Like, he wasn't really like, you feel me? He was just in love with the art of him just doing music. He knowing he big as fuck. Of course, he's so humble. He wasn't really like, you feel me? He was just in love with the art of him, just doing music. He knowing he big as fuck, of course, but it's like, I think he was having so much fun with it, he wasn't even plotting on how big he could go. You feel me? He wasn't even awesome as far as just embracing it.

That's the thing. That's what I mean. I feel like he would have been 10 times bigger if he just embraced how big he was. You feel me? Him just being such a real nigga, a pure soul, he ain't even like, was popping it. We used to tell him, like, pop it, shorty.

Like, get out here and shit on niggas. Like, that was never his thing. We been telling him to do that. Like, boy, shit on niggas. Boy, you the one. You feel me? Like, act like you the one he never was on that you feel me like that's what i mean great i'm bouncing around a little bit i'm bouncing around a little right this is something that i always wanted to ask people from from chicago right they said that it was a plot

to kind of like get rid of all the ogs like like, you know, the Larry Hoovers, right? The COINTELPRO shit. Yeah, like... Yeah, I used to hear about that shit. And that's how the city became wild like it is. You think that's true? I believe shit if it's like... I ain't going to say I'm like a conspiracy theorist,

like belief type of nigga, but like once I hear like how they break it down and shit yeah I do believe that shit was true cause it's not no coincidence and how shit happen and don't happen

you feel what I'm saying like no matter regardless I can't I'm 28 so I can't really say what really really happened in the past

but as far as it when me knowing when I grew up it being no guidance out here for real it wasn't. You feel what I'm saying? You even hear people who was like,

and that's crazy you said that, because I was having a conversation with one of my homies not too long ago. Even in certain neighborhoods, people was really even scared to even feel like, all right, I got authority. I'm finna try to tell these little shorties what to do or not be out here or don't, you know what I'm saying?

Because they scared to get on some cane pen and shit. They think I'm going to grab them just for them and be having the ability to tell people what to do or orchestrate even if it is a positive outcome. You feel me? These might be a neighborhood full of street niggas who got criminal charges or whatever, but one person come and be like all

right i'm finna straighten this shit up they might really look at them like they on some chief type shit you feel me and they ain't doing nothing but trying to make the shit better you feel me like i was having a conversation with my homie like and that's basically touching on the same point you just made remember it's not a conspiracy anymore cointil pro has been proven that that's the real thing that the FBI was doing back then. Exactly. Depending on what you think the intention was, but they was really doing

that and they was bringing people in. They was taking apart these organizations from the top. Right. And those organizations back then were really

trying to do community based things. It wasn't really street shit back then. Exactly. Like my brother, he's Latino, but when Capri Di Green was up,

you know, I wanted to go to Capri Di Green. This is a good time. Project's fun, dude. I was like, yo, I gotta go. And they're like, this is a restaurant called Sammy's. You know, it's fried chicken spice, it's nothing crazy, but I had to go. My brother got the cosign, and when I got there,

I felt the most safest I ever felt in my life. I felt like everyone was just around, just like, yo, Nori's here, you know what I mean? And the police came, searched me and shit. The whole neighborhood was with me. like, yo, Norrie's here. You know what I mean? And the police came, searched me and shit. The whole neighborhood was with me. Like, yo, get Norrie alone. I was like, oh, shit. That was in the 90s, though.

You know what I'm saying? That's one thing about Chicago, though. You would feel that type of love. You know what I'm saying? And that being a project, I ain't from no project building, but back then when projects was up, everybody knew everybody.

So basically, in a project, it's probably 80, 60% of they ass all related, families and shit, staying all through this shit. So you feel me, you will get that type of value. If somebody fuck with you, they gonna definitely make sure you straight. I'm sure you probably felt like it was some real love, cause I done been to New York and felt like that.

Young nigga, like 18 years old, and I'm going outside and I'm really feeling like, oh yeah, I'm posting up in New York for two hours, three hours. I'm all through all type of boroughs, you feel what I'm saying? Like you don't really feel like that. And when you go to the hood and just embrace it, you feel me?

Like... Now let's talk about PTSD. I know we was talking about juice water earlier, but you think you have PTSD? Yeah Post-traumatic stress disorder. Yeah, I got diagnosed with it. I got really yeah, that's the shit that motherfuckers in war get right Yeah, but you can get it what yeah, I had that was always I was going to therapy though That was when I first started going to therapy my hair so wise for your age, but continue. Yeah, I'll start going to therapy. So wise for your age, but continue. I started going to therapy, probably, what year was that, 2019, 2018.

And just talking to my therapist, she diagnosed me with post traumatic stress disorder. I was fighting a case at the time, though. I had got arrested in 2018. For the guns? When my son was born, I got arrested for some guns in Chicago. That's when I was living in Chicago, you feel me? Right before I moved to L.A.

And I was really just, you know, me living out there, I ain't had no security. You feel what I'm saying? And I was, even in that situation, like I said, accountability. I'm talking? And I was, even in that situation, like I said, accountability, I'm talking to my therapist, like I ain't never really felt safe leaving out my house since I was 14, 15 years old. You feel what I'm saying?

Like, and we haven't, I was with Southside when that happened, that situation when I got arrested for the guns. You feel me? Like, bro was already a millionaire. He had security with him. You feel what I'm saying? He was able to, you feel me? Like, bro was already a millionaire. He had security with him, you feel me saying? He was able to, you know, his security guard, Chello, who was on the case, he did,

and that guy arrested, so that was his security guard who he paid staff, you feel me saying? But I'm living in Chicago. I wasn't able to have no security guard. So me carrying a firearm, I was, you know what I'm saying, basically just telling my therapist, I'm telling the same shit with Deloy, I'm fine with the case, but I wasn't able to get off on that misdemeanor.

You feel what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, I really like, I didn't even know what the therapy, the whole situation of me going. It was me taking a chance, you feel what I'm saying? I ain't really opened up to nobody in my life. You did it on your own? You chose to go to therapy on your own?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was really like, it wasn't no court stipulation or nothing like that. I was talking to my lawyer, and my lawyer kind of insisted on me going. And I just took the chance and just really went on my own. You feel me? But like I said, taking that leadership role early on,

it just, I don't really, I feel like me complaining about my situation and what I got going on to the people around that's really dependent on me, it's like, that's not really, you know what I'm saying? I feel like that's the, that's what's really wrong, for lack of a better term, with what I'm trying to say,

that stipulation that they put on black men growing up just not being able to open up. Like you can't vent to anybody, right. Or vent to people around you or your family, open up to your mother, open up to your girl, to whoever. Like the macho side, you can't do that, right. You got to take it on, you know what I'm saying?

So it's like, and ain't nobody referring therapy, so it's like and ain't nobody referring therapy so it's like i was really i i didn't even feel like it was gonna be helpful at first to be honest you know when i first started going but it was though like i don't lie just me just talking to her about everything i grew up like experiencing and everything that i was going through as a man at that time and she just went on her own and and diagnosed me with post-traumatic stress disorder and actually sent it to the courts when I was fighting the case at the time. And that's how I was able to really get off on the whole situation and get it down to

a misdemeanor, basically. What did they give you for that? What? The post-traumatic stress disorder? Yeah. I got diagnosed. I got the medical card. They gave me.

Oh, they gave you weed? Yeah. Let's make some noise for P.T. Yeah. Don't be about to go on that. Hell yeah. P.T.

That's fire. Legally. Yeah, yeah. I got my card legally. Yeah, that's how I was able to get it through having post-traumatic stress disorder.

You know, but, and it's like, man, really, that's why I had, I PTSD, because it all had happened around the same time, and that's why I put all those people that I had lost on my cover, like it was over 50 people on the floor, 50 dead faces, you feel what I'm saying? Because I'm talking about all this in therapy,

you feel what I'm saying? Like everything I experienced, and it's like just the reality of a nigga experiencing, seeing so much death, but you were able to just act normal all day, navigate through your life like ain't nothing going on. Still going to school, and they still going to work, and they still providing for their family,

taking care of their kids, but all is still on your mind every day. And if we don't really talk about it, it's like you got to find a way to like compartmentalize with all of that, you feel me? and if we don't really talk about it, it's like you gotta find a way to like compartmentalize with all of that, you feel me? You can't really hold it in and still think you're going to have a level playing field where you're dealing with life.

You're going to always be on a roller coaster, you feel what I'm saying? Because most times, yeah, on edge, because most times where you're really able to release and be yourself, you're around the people that you're most comfortable with and them people you love, so you probably exploding on your woman,

exploding on your kids, or you know what I'm saying, on your mom, or whoever the case may be, you feel me? So like, because, or you really like, hold it in where you just go to make a decision that you can't any shit come back from for the rest of your life, that's how a nigga wind up getting killed, a nigga wind up going to jail

because you wearing this shit on your shoulder and then you snap with a 10 second decision that costs you the rest of your life, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, that's why I started to like open up about therapy and name my album PTSD and just openly just wear that shit because I felt like that was the time of my life when I was most vulnerable, so I was just rapping about it.

Was any soldiers offended by that? Because I guess that's most of the people who get diagnosed with that. Uh-uh, no, because I did really get clinically diagnosed, so I'm opening up about therapy, you feel what I'm saying? And I was like, I wasn't saying I was first hand like paying homage to the soldiers, but I was talking about how

people who live regular everyday lives suffer from the same diagnosis that somebody who go to war who signed up for this. Not saying that they work as unnoticed, of course, people put their life on the line every day on a scale that we couldn't even imagine. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah, and everybody's different. At the end of the day, it's people who live everyday life that didn't sign up for that. And at the end of the day, it is what it is.

Post-traumatic stress disorder is post-traumatic stress disorder no matter how you put it. And it depends on, like people get it in car accidents. People have car accidents. Yeah, they get diagnosed with that. I think it was just a war. Nah, it's not just a war. Yeah, domestic abuse. They get that shit.

One rob, you get robbed one time, people, they get post-traumatic. Really? It's just really having certain situations that you've been through that trigger you on a day-to-day basis. So it might be one thing that happened 10 years ago, but it's like every time you get in the car,

like you said, you're thinking about the situation. Every time you're on the bus stop, you're about the situation. Every time you on the bus stop, you thinking about the situation because something happened on the bus stop. Let me ask you, how'd you become this wise? Because I know we touched on the fact that you're 28, but your brain is not 28. You advanced in this shit.

I sit here almost like I'm talking to my peer. I know you younger than me, but your brain ain't telling me that at all. How'd you get that, Waz? Man, I think I just really, to be honest, I'm going to be completely honest with you, man. I've just been outside for a long time. All right. Really just since I was probably 12, 13 years old, I've been hanging on my big brother. He five years older than me.

Just, you know, just for five years older than he's 33. Yeah, yeah. Okay, which means that he 43. Right, basically. All right, cool. Yeah, because y'all niggas is wise, B. It's like I just been always, and that don't really got nothing to do with how I think, of course,

but I think I just looked up to him and I already had some type of structure, just being my own man, you feel what I'm saying? And where I grew up at is you got to, I ain't even lying, bro. Even if you're not in the streets, you got to be wise. You got to be a little witty in some type of way. Growing up, I came up

because everybody's out for something. Everybody wants something about you. You feel what I'm saying? When I'm 15, 16 years old and I'm trying to rap, at the end of the day, my name, I'm buzzing. I'm really in my neighborhood. I'm having, 16 years old and I'm trying to rap, and at the end of the day, my name, I'm buzzing. I'm really in my neighborhood.

I'm having all type of street shit going on, you feel me? So it's like I got to be twice as sharp. I really wasn't hanging with people my age. I was hanging with people older than me. I'm 13. I'm hanging around 18, 19, 20, sometimes 25-year-olds. You feel what I'm saying? And I got to, you know, know I'm gonna get a lot of

credit to my pops to though my dad put a lot of a lot of structure me growing up you feel me but my when when I was outside in the streets I was on my own though you feel me like I just had to take what he gave me and try to use that to navigate you feel me but I don't know it was just experience a lot of life I've been through a lot of shit early on and just like took it for what it is like you know I think that's why like going back to the therapy that shit helped me because like the shit was so normal where I come from like you can't really complain about I feel like I said that before and I don't want to sound like crazy or like biased or nothing like I feel like a a like me i i feel like i can't

even complain about my situation or whatever i go through because i've been seen and experienced much worse like in the hood where i come from like you think your situation bad then you look at one of your homies like damn he got it worse way worse well this got it 10 times worse than me like it make you just over grateful like Like, I had that mentality when I was younger because I'm seeing shit. Like, you know, I done been in the trenches where shit is so fucked up. Like, niggas growing up even worse than I'm seeing. So, it's like, damn. I always had a reason to just be like, ah, my shit ain't so bad.

You feel me? Even the worst of the worst situations. You feel me? I want you to enjoy it a little more, man. Yeah. Enjoy it because I got a friend. I don't want to say his name. Like, we hang out, right?

And then we don't even want to take pictures because we got survivor's remorse. We just sitting around thinking like, all right, once we take a picture, there's going to be people hating. Bro. And that's like fucked up. Yeah. Like, our wives be looking at each other like, y'all some suckers. Yeah. Come on, bro. Like we out like three days a week.

And like, y'all, no, we're over here. We don't want to take this picture. Like, fuck that. Come on, bro. I got an album called Survivors of Morse, though. I got a real album called Survivors of Morse. I know. Look, that's why I said it. That's why I said shit like that. I'm knowing. But I know, nigga, that's why I said it. That's why I said that shit. Come on, nigga, come on, boy. Nigga, come on.

Come on, nigga. But I know you said, but it's like the shit, that shit like second nature, though. You feel me? I don't even think nigga intentionally really beat the, it's like, like you said, like in the beginning of the interview, like you ask your phone so much, sometimes you just don't even want to deal with the energy of certain shit

that's just nothing. I need to change my number. Survivors of Morse, you feel me? I say that shit all the time of certain shit that's just not... I need to change my number....survival's remorse. You feel me? I say that shit all the time. I haven't changed it. I've never changed it. Man, I say that shit all the time.

I be wanting to change my number. But then it's like I be thinking like... I know. Shit, motherfucker. What if somebody really... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn. Damn.

That's real. Yeah, nigga really be feeling like that. That's real shit. How much you think fatherhood has helped you mature as well? A hundred percent. I feel like fatherhood is, if it wasn't for me

really having my first kid, I would like, I know I wouldn't have really like grew up in and just like been on some shit where like,

I know like what having a kid teach you is your first and foremost, like your main responsibility, you owe everything to them. So you got to make decisions knowing that you owe everything to your kids.

Because what happens to you happens to them. Exactly, so before you had kids, you feel like you owe something to a motherfucker, but when you really had kids, you're like, oh no, I really don't owe nobody shit. I owe my kids everything. So that just changed my whole way of thinking when I had children, you feel what I'm saying?

And then, like, no funny shit, people always ask me, like, what's my most place of comfort or happiest place? Like, no matter what I'm going through, when I'm around my kids, I could literally just zone out and not think about nothing, like, no matter what. Like, regardless, i don't feel like i had no other vice like studio all that should be therapeutic cue like you know i love what i do but like my purest place is just like no matter what i could be like the most depressed ever

and be in the room my kids and then that shit just literally go away you feel what i'm saying so like like even if it's for the time being to being around my kids, and then when that's over, I snap back right into whatever reality. Like, I feel like that's the purest form of love, you feel what I'm saying? With the purest people. Exactly, so like, and then it's like, another thing is too that should be tweaking me out,

like, no matter what, like, I'm learning, and my oldest, you know, your son, he five, he's gonna be six years old, like, he know what's going on, but at the. And my oldest, you know, your son, he five. He's going to be six years old. Like, he know what's going on. But at the end of the day, your kids don't really know. Like, they don't know who I am or what I'm. Oh, no, they don't think you cool or nothing. They don't give a fuck about none of that.

You feel me? Yeah, yeah, they don't know. Oh, I ain't going to lie. I still think I'm corny to my kids. You are always doing it for like that. Like, the last thing I watched with my son, I watched Ted. I know that's inappropriate. With who?

With Nafi? No, with Noah. Our youngest. We watched Ted the series. You seen that shit on Peacock? It's very racist. It's very racist, but it's hilarious. Ted?

The Teddy bear? Yeah, he has a series. Yeah. Oh, you think I'm bullshitting? My son put me on dead boat. I ain't never see that shit until my son watched that shit. He ain't supposed to be watching that shit. No, no. I ain't going to lie. I'm a bad father. My son put me on dead boat. I ain't never see that shit until my son watched that shit. He ain't supposed to be watching that shit. No, no, I ain't going to lie.

I'm a bad father. Let me just throw that out there. Let me throw that out there to my wife. Don't say you're a bad father. No, I'm not a bad father. But in this situation, my son was like, dad, can I watch it? And I started to realize he's asking me to watch it because he wants to watch it. Right.

So I'm looking there and then my wife's getting her hair done. I'm getting a haircut. And everybody in the house is just looking like, oh, my watching. Right. So I'm looking there and then my wife's getting her hair done, I'm getting a haircut, and everybody in the house is just looking like, oh my God. Right. And I'm sitting there with my son, and I looked, I was like, damn, I'm kind of foul. Look, nah, he just made that point though, but that's what I'm saying, I'm saying it to say,

like, yo, kids don't really know, like, who you, like, my son, he be wanting to do the most random shit, and I got to do it, like. Well. Like, wherever we at He wanna go to whatever target He wanna go Right

Out to the The closest jumpy house The nearest arcade Just random shit How? For the moment How? He five years old

Oh okay okay I be having to go do that shit No matter if it's a million fans in there Okay I don't I just go do it Cause that's what he wanted to do Like he not thinking about that type of shit

And he not knowing like You feel me? So that's what I'm saying do. He not thinking about that type of shit. He not knowing. That's what I'm saying. Your kids, how you doing the most random shit? Fuck it. I always do that with my kid. He got the fatherhood podcast. Let's make some noise for your fatherhood podcast. I got a five-year-old too.

Let's do it. He don't do nothing. He don't leave the house for shit at all. I do all kinds of shit. Yeah. I'm going right now. I'll be having to be acting and shit with my kids.

Why? They too busy. Uh-huh. Fuck the whole crib up. You got to leave out for a couple hours. How many kids you have? Three.

Three? Yeah, yeah. What's the ages? Five, two, and one. Aw. Man, you got a baby in there. Good luck. Good luck. My kids is 14

They going through puberty I gotta have the Birds and the bees I don't know if they already Had the birds and bees I don't know Like I'm scared I'm scared

Like they They damn near the homies And shit Birds They be telling me Let's go to the gym I'm like I don't know

Why they wanna go to the gym It's different I'm married God I don't know why they want to go to the gym. It's different. I'm married, God damn it. All right, listen. So we got a game. Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Handle that.

We want to let you know how much we appreciate you, how much you're a legend, how much love in hip hop you got. You know, that's one thing I do. When I interview a guest, I call. I just call just call everybody and everybody you know I kid you not you wanted like the third guess maybe you look you're up you're up there like that nobody had nothing bad to say I was like that's fucking fire you know I'm saying like everybody was like yo man stand up do it's a stand-up dude. It's a good dude. You know what I mean?

Our show is about giving people what they fly with, so we want to give you your motherfucking fly. Yeah, baby. Man, man. Snoop Dogg said Snoop Dogg said it's like a Grammy because it's coming from the people. And this is your people,

man. This is your house. We want you to know We want you to know. We want you to know that. Before we get to Quick Time of Slime, I want to say something. I want you to tell me what do you hear

when I say this? When I say this? Okay. You ready? Yeah. Humble beast. Well when I say this. Okay. You ready? Yeah. Humble beast. Well, I think hunger. Hunger?

Yeah. Mm. Hunger. A little carbons immediately. More than one? Huh? More than one? Like, more than one thing I think?

No, no, no, whatever you think. Humble beast, I think hunger, man. Hunger? I think dedication. I think goal- man. I think dedication. I think goal-oriented. I was on a mission. Goal? Yeah, goal-oriented.

Goal, goal, goal. Yeah, goal-oriented for sure. I think having a point of proof. I had some approval to myself, I feel like, at that time. And, like, to the industry, you know, with that being my, like, debut album, like, on some shit. Okay. Still swerving. Still swerving.

Consistency. Like, I think living living life having fun um i think uh uh i think a god damn it um swerving on bro swerving and what I think I think a shit gratefulness on bro being grateful around that time

on Brody okay PTSD PTSD I think Chicago I think hustling

I think, uh, hustling. Mm. Um, I think, uh, shit, savage life. Mm. I think of death. Mm. Mm. Um, shit, I think of grieving. Mm.

Pain, anger. Mm. Um, and shit, I think, uh, and shit. I think vulnerability and awareness. 25. 25. I think survival's amorous. I think grief.

Can't say that. Gratefulness. That's my next question. Bro, I'm going to go into each other. Let's think grief. Can't say that. Gratefulness. That's my next question. Bro, I'm going to go into each other. Let's rewind that. I'm going to go into that with that. Let's rewind that. You're doing my interview. I ain't going to lie.

That was fire. But for 25, I think of gratefulness too, though. Okay. I think of gratefulness. I think of life. I think of gratefulness. I think of life. I think of celebration. I think of grief.

I think of victory. And now survivors of morse. Survivors of morse I think of sorrow. Anger again. I think of confusion. I think of... I think of resentfulness.

I don't know if I said pain, but I think of pain again. The reason why I had, like I had said, survivors of more sin when I said the 2-5 was because, like, turning 25 was, like, that whole time like period of me just well was as an artist as a man everywhere just like actually being grateful to turn 25 such a young age is really crazy as fuck you know I'm saying like and that and I'm 28 finna be 30 you famous still being young but you just be grateful for them years because niggas really don't get that far where I come from. A lot of my homies didn't get to see 18, 21, you know? So me turning 25, like, and that was one of my last birthdays

that I turned with my little brother, you feel me? My little brother, he died seven days before his 25th birthday like two plus five and seven like the whole reason why i was like putting that whole album two five together you feel i'm saying it was just like it was a different like this time or you know like they let you know like well where we are mentally not just me like everybody around everybody i ever know knew growing up like it was like of course everybody excited to see they 25th birthday but why come from we feel like it's a milestone even be alive at 25 not to actually enjoy your 25th birthday and how long you feel like niggas just happy

to be here you love so much you feeling me so it's like looking back at that I feel like shit I feel like I wish you know nigga would have like celebrated like more you know what that being like my last birthday even with you know because I had a ball like I'm saying but I'm just saying like not even not even like what I mean is like awesome just like festive like not even my whole 25th birthday was around the fact that just being grateful to be alive you feel me and my little brother didn't even see his 24th birthday so that was like it was like a weird feeling for me you know god bless

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You pick one, and we not drinking. Quick Time of Slime. Yeah, two choices. Yeah. Two choices. You get two choices. There's a list of things. These guys over here came up with this list, so don't blame us. Colombiana and Dominican. All right.

So you get two choices. You pick one. Nobody drinks. Don't go together. If you say both, like you say both of them. So what do quick time or slime? That's just the name of the game we play. It's a drinking game.

Yeah, you're picking something. But if you say both or neither, we drinking. All of us are drinking. Oh, okay. But if you pick, nobody drinks. If you pick something, nobody drinks. But if you don't pick, basically, we drinking. Yeah, I remember this.

I remember this game. Are you ready? Yeah. And go light with the shots because this is a long game. Yeah, yeah. Go light with the shots. Okay, you ready? This is your shot town.

This is going to fuck you up right now. You ready? Let's do it. Chief Keef or Lil Durk? Sosa. Okay, let's Chief Keef. Tupac or DMX? Tupac.

Okay. Drake or DMX? Tupac. Okay. Drake or Lil Wayne? Wayne. Nas or Jadakiss? Kiss. And if you got something to say about that, you know. Right, if you want to elaborate, tell a story, anything. Jadakiss.

Okay. Kanye West or No I.D.? Obviously, producer. And obviously, anything. Jadakiss. Okay. Kanye West or No I.D.? Obviously, producer. And obviously, Chicago. Both Chicago. I'm going to go No I.D. Big Bro, he was one of the first to ever really embrace me, too, though. Really?

No I.D.? I got placements, like songs with No I.D. when I'm like 16 years old, when I first started rapping. You went with Common, who's no ID. Yeah, exactly. That was the whole plate. No ID put that whole plate together with Common, you feel me? And Big Bro always just been like a mentor for me. Like, I know if there's anything I really need to like get off of, if I ever need to

come to him for any advice, it's just a phone call. You feel me? That's fire. That's a big dog, too. You got to shout out to Big Bro. That's a big dog, too. You got to shout out to Big Dog. That's a big dog. He always showed me love from the beginning, since day one. Juice WRLD or PNB Rock?

Rest in peace, man. Both. I can do both? Of course. Let's call it. Let's take a shot. Let's do both. Let's take a shot.

Both of my brothers. I've been feeding him. Let's take a shot. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it.

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Let's do it. Let's do it. Salud. Salud. But I wanted you to go with the right choices. Mmm. Throw some ice in there? That next. Damn. Come on, Sean. Damn, that shit got me.

We back, baby, we back. Oh my God. Hey man, I don't know if I can say it, but I'm gonna say it. Y'all been wanting to take a shot from my brother PN say it, but I'm going to say it. Y'all don't want to take a shot from my brother PNB anyway, so I said we got to take that. Yes, boy. Damn! Future or 21 Savage?

You can take a shot. You know your nigga. Yeah, we're going to take a shot. That's right. Bro to bro to you. That's right. Yeah, that's right. Don't choose.

Don't choose a side. Don't choose a side. That's a two-headed goat. Oof. Yeah. Ice Cube and that motherfucker. Don't choose a side. That's a two-headed goat. Oof. Yeah. Ice Cube and that motherfucker. I've been holding this one. Ice Cube on the shot.

That's chilly. Common or Lupit Fiasco? Common. Southside or Metro Boomin? We'll take a shot. Don't fold up. That's another two-headed goat. Sorry about that. I drank it. You know these junior

Whether it's called mama wanna But it's not one Dominican Republic. What is it? It's made in the tub and can do you make that shit up? It's telling you man What. Don't switch up. Don't start getting nice. And he going to ask you for a shot of his shit. That shit called off life to move you to the bathroom. You should try it.

You should try it. You should try it. I ain't fucking with you. I ain't fucking with you. I'm off the team. By the way, the best bathtub in Kindle. Home made even in Canada.

I know it's some top shelf shit. I'm drinking it anyway. Just let me run with the story. It's home made brew for sure. I ain't take mine. For sure. Man, I'm sorry. I'm so happy you came here, man.

I appreciate it. I wanted to give you a round of applause. I'm happy to be here, man. It's been a pleasure. You really do. And your fans. It's crazy, by the way. I tweeted out,

y'all got questions with T-Herbal? They went crazy. Your fans, you got some crazy-ass fucking fans, bro. Yeah. Yeah.

Stay in tune, man. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Podcast or radio? Podcast. Okay, dropped. Podcast. Podcast.

Okay. This is a good one. Real nigga, man. This is a good one. Cat Wheels or Kevin Hart? I'm going to take a shot. Yeah or Kevin Hart Don't take a shot We all we love them both shut up, but it's entertaining I've never seen comedians Funnier shit on the internet.

Right? The craziest shit. This shit's dope. You ain't happy that- I fuck with everybody getting along and spreading love. 100%, 100%. Entertainment is entertainment. That's the name of the game, right?

But I'm like that other people was beefing other than rappers. Yeah, exactly. That's hard. That's hard. That's hard. That's hard. Come on, you want can clap for that?

They just want rappers to be... God damn it, okay. Who we at? Luda or T.I.? You want to take a shot? Do I all shot? Yeah, take a shot, take a shot. All right, fuck.

Tip. Hmm. Okay. Rick Ross or Jeezy? Hmm. Take a shot, man. Okay, fuck. Take a shot,. Okay, fuck. Take a shot man, for big bro Lil.

It's going down. Okay. You putting ice on every shot bro? Man, that shit is hot as fuck. I don't like it. That shit is like Russian. What's up with that cheating man? DJ Drama or DJ Khaled?

Drama. Scarface or Ice Cube? When we say Drama or Khaled, we got to take a shot. Take a shot. You reneged on your answer. I respect that. Take a shot. I respect that.

I'm a little tipsy out here to consume the question a little bit. Okay. I didn't even remember what you were asking. We don't remember. That's another two-headed girl. All right. Scarface or Ice Cube?

Scarface. Boys in the Hood or Menace to Society? Menace to Society. L.A. or Miami? L.A. or Miami? L.A. Travis Scott or A$AP Rocky? Travis. Biggie or Big L?

Biggie. Outkast or UGK? UGK. Hey, who said that? Come on bro Polo G or Lil Reese Take a shot I respect that

Big em both up Cheers Take a shot Take a nice Show me dudes It's still hot It's like fucking Taking a coffee shot.

Little Bibby or Rocky Fresh? Bibby. Lil Yachty or Lil Uzi? Take a shot. Take a shot. That bingo. Yeah. These are some good assass questions, by the way.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Kodak or Denzel Curry? Kodak. Last one. It's the most important one. Most important one.

Loyalty or respect? Respect. Respect. Explain. Because I'm built off loyalty. I'm a loyal person anyway. You feel what I'm saying? You can't really, if people don't really have loyalty, you can't probably instill that in them.

But I'm going to make you respect me if you don't respect me. I demand respect regardless of what. You don't have to be loyal to me. You don't have to be whatever but you don't have to be respectful of me because I'm a leader of respect. I don't have to enforce loyalty. I enforce respect upon anybody.

So respect. So you're going to respect? I'm going to respect. I think a lot. You're not supposed to take a shot for that, but I think we should. You're going to take a shot? I mean, that was a hard answer. That was hard. I ain't going to lie.

I was fucked up. I was like, this is the first time. You're going to take a shot for that? Yeah, I got to take a shot. Just say you want to take a shot, bro. I mean, do you not want to take a shot for that answer? Like, it deserves a, that answer deserves a shot. I'll do it for myself.

You have to say, you have to say. The Academy Award for taking a shot. Sorry for wanting to take a shot. All right, cool. I wanted to take a shot. I'll do it for myself. You can take it. The Academy Award goes to Dory for wanting to take a shot. All right, cool. I wanted to take a shot, too. But that fucking answer was awesome, bro. Going back to No ID putting you with Common, right?

Did you record with Common in the studio? No, no. Have y'all linked, though? Yeah, hell yeah. I ain't gonna lie. I fuck with Common so tough, man. I was, you know, it was crazy. I actually was supposed to start acting, like, years ago, man.

But I really was just so focused on rap. Like, I ain't, I was, like, I'm a type of person. Like, I ain't going to say I'm stubborn. But in a way, when I'm super focused on something, like, I got mouths to own stuff for myself. I just got to do one thing. Like, I was supposed to really been in when they did Which one was he and was commas and barbershop three right? I believe I was supposed to I was supposed to been in it and I was in Chicago, right? Yeah

Yeah, I went in I went in I went in uh went over my script with him Yeah, yeah me pull up on him at his hotel. I was yeah, I was a boy on it I feel like he smells like baby powder. Nah, nah. Nah, Big Bro, I ain't gonna lie, that was my first time. He was at a nice-ass suite. I forgot what hotel it was. It was a minute ago. He had me pull up to him, and I went over

my script with him for like two, three hours. You feel me? Big Bro always just embraced me. Even on rap shit, it's just anything. He hit me like, oh, you got the... They trying to get you to roll. I pulled up on him, went over the script. You feel me? He kind of wanted me to do my video and send it in right there,

but I ain't going to lie, I was on some nerve and shit. I ain't do it right then. Oh, because it was an audition that you were doing? Basically, yeah. I had went over the script. You ain't send the video in? I ain't send the shit in. Oh, you wildin', man.

I ain't send that shit. I was supposed to have been in Barbershop 3. Damn. Who would have been your role was supposed to have been in Barbershop 3. Damn. Who would have been your role if you would have been in there? I think I was supposed to have been, you know, Tariq from Pal. He was in there. Tariq was in there. He played, I think he was Ice Cube's son.

That's for sure. And I was supposed to have been his homie. I don't know. I don't know. He's in the video. So somewhere there's a video on that shit. One of the niggas that was gangbanging, one of them I don't know. I don't know. He's in the video. So somewhere there's a video. One of the niggas that was gangbanging, one of them type of little Chicago niggas or something.

Not the niggas that took the cashiers to ATM. Nah, this was three. Oh, this was three. I bought it. That's the last one I'm talking about. But that's dope that Common took the time to do that with you. Yeah, to do that. Right, yeah.

And the reason I'm asking. That's the whole point of it. Because it's ill. It's like Chicago from this era and this era. Like, how is that coming together? Like, y'all discussing the state of affairs of Chicago? No, he been just always, like, reached out and, like, showed love, took a liking to me from the beginning. Right.

When my first project got dropped, Walking the Faisal Land, matter of fact, I should have mentioned that first. Really, he gave me the feature on Still Fucked Up. Right. Me, him, Chance, the rapper. Wow. It was a video. We shot probably like 2015, 2014 or something.

You feel me? Put up on Big Bro in his neighborhood. You know, he's from 87. Over there, we put up on him in his neighborhood at a barbershop.

He used to really be coming back to Chicago showing love yeah yeah yeah he's one of the first artists that a lot of people heard of out of Chicago really big boy

used to really you know what I'm saying him and Twista or him and Twista I would say I mean it could be around the same Crucial Conflict

no no it was after yeah yeah Common when he was Common Sense okay and he had the song Take It Easy was one of the first but he's not Common Sense no more Crucial conflict? Crucial conflict? No, no, no. It was after. That's way after? Yeah, yeah. Common, when he was Common Sense. Okay.

And he had the song Take It Easy, was one of the first big records. But he not Common Sense no more? No, no. He just Common now. Really? Yeah, his first album he was Common Sense. No ID produced the whole thing. Yeah, no, he definitely was one of the first artists to really-

That I heard of out of Chicago. I mean, Twista as well. For sure, for sure. Right. Yeah. What's your relationship with Kanye? I fuck with Ye. You know what's so crazy- Fuck with his new sneakers? I'm not sure. Right. Yeah. What's your relationship with Kanye? I fuck with Ye. You know what's so crazy?

Fuck with his new sneakers? I'm not sure. I don't really, I ain't even look at his sneakers, bro. I don't really be too big on the fashion. The ninja socks, I love them. That's my brother. I love them. But the ninja socks?

The one that fold? Nah, I ain't going with ninja socks. He called them bars. Why are they ninja socks? Oh, because he don't wear shoes, right? He got to wear some shit like that in the house. Don't throw that on me. No, no, I'm asking.

I'm really asking. Don't throw it. He's trying to throw that on me. No, no, I'm asking. I'm really asking. Don't throw it. He's trying to throw that on me. No, I'm not trying to throw it. I'm asking. I'm seriously asking.

You act like I had inside information. You do. You said the one, oh, I got those joints.

I was trying to see what socks he was talking about. You ain't seen the ninja socks? I know which ones are my

now, they're faux, right? Yeah, they're like AirPods. You can call them pods.

Oh, bro, right, right, right, right, right, right. AirPods. I'm ready for them. Them bitches too long, though. Yeah, they're like air pods. You can call them pods. Oh, bro, right, right, right. They're air pods.

I'm ready for them. Them bitches too long, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I want them to make... I'm sorry. They short. They could have went on the house shoe vibe.

You could have went on some... I feel like he's watching too much Bruce Lee movies at that time. And then, yeah, because as soon as he get back to some nigga shit, I'm back.

I'm going to fuck with him. Like, I mean, like, fashion-wise. Yeah, like, fashion-wise, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right now, he's just bugging. I'm going to fuck with him. I mean, fashion-wise. Fashion-wise, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm fucking with Ye, man. You got it. I got a different... I got a different... I got a different respect for

Ye. I love Ye. Just off the strip of his genius, for real. Yes, he's a genius. Super genius. You know what I'm saying? Whoever you at, Saudi Arabia, we love you too.

Here's the dude. Y'all will not believe. Chi-Town, you got the whole shit going on. Yeah, man. Holy moly guacamole. Let's talk about... Damn, I got mad notes for you

You got some shit in front of me Mercy Let's talk about Cry No More With Lil T.J. Yeah T.J. that's my boy Yeah I never got to meet him

Yet Yeah But I like his style. I like his aura. Yeah, nah, little bro. So tell us how y'all collaborated. TJ, I've been fucking with little bro for a little minute, too, though.

You know, we're both solid. We locked in on a bunch of different ways. But really, it was me and Polo did it first, though. Okay. Polo did the hook, you know. Okay. We was in Chicago. That was one of the times.

I really was stuck in Chicago at the time. It was a period of time where I couldn't travel. Like I said, when I got diagnosed, I was supposed to match stress and all that shit. You had the ankle break list. Nah, I went on. This was before COVID and everything. That's why COVID was kind of easy for me, I ain't going to lie, because I had like a year where I couldn't travel,

really do too many shows. So you was acclimated to it. I was just stuck in Chicago. My judge ain't let me do no traveling. Summertime? It was like for a whole year. I had to do the summer. It was at least like 10 months.

You was on quarantine already. Yeah, it was right before quarantine hit. So it was on quarantine already. Yeah. Right. It was right before quarantine hit. So it was like, I damn near did two quarantines type shit. God damn. So, but I was in Chicago.

I was like, locked in the studio and shit. So, me and Polo had did that song. Me and Bro, we be, we had, when me and Bro get in,

we be doing like a lot of shit back to back though. Like, we probably got five, 10, you know, like, 10, like... TJ.

No, I'm talking about Polo. Polo. So we had did the hook, and then I had sent the shit to TJ after that. And then me and TJ did it in LA, you feel me? That shit like a dynamic though. Like me, Polo, TJ, that shit like the same. We get in the studio, if we get in one day,

we probably could do five six songs literally right off the rip like that that chemistry is that type of chemistry right you feel i'm saying like we all already familiar with working with each other we did in the studio together did separately i get in with them we do three four songs i get in bro we do three four you know what i'm saying like that's just how we work so that shit just came naturally i did that and that was like i said the time while i was just going through a whole bunch of shit mentally i That's how we work. So that shit just came naturally. I did that. And that was, like I said at the time, I was just going through a whole bunch of shit mentally.

I couldn't travel. I wasn't doing no shows. I was fighting the case, all that type of shit. I just was, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was just, I feel like it was a growth period, though. Like, one thing I learned about, like, that's why I speak about it openly. when you go through shit like just adversity overall like All that you will feel frustrated like maybe having a lot of stress a lot of built-up shit in them And you will feel like oh you you going through the motions or whatever the case may be

But that shit really just building character like I learned like when I really go through shit Sometimes I ain't trying to sound like weird or crazy or the fucked up way. Like it kind of give me comfort like, damn shit, a little rough. So I got it. You once you figure it out, you figure it out. And it's like it always leads to elevation. So you should lead towards that shit. You know what I'm saying?

Like lean towards what I'm saying. And to say like that was like a hard ass time period where I didn't really want to do shit but record music. But me recording music, that was the PTSD album. Yeah, that's therapy, though, too. That's a version of therapy as well. And that was like, shit, literally that's my best album still to this date. You feel what I'm saying? All that shit came about from me really not being able to travel, do shows, being around my peers.

But niggas really just fuck with me off the strength. They pulling up on me, you feel what I'm saying? When I was able to go to LA, TJ pulled up on me. Little bro Polo, when he was in Iraq, he pulled up on me, you feel what I'm saying? I'm getting this shit done, and then this shit coming out, like, still, that's probably one of my biggest songs on that album, too, though. You feel me? So that shit just be happening naturally, gang.

I don't know why. Yeah, goddammit. Hold on. When you go back and you say you started around 16, who were the inspirations that you was looking around you? Not on the bigger scale, like around you locally. Who was doing things that you was like, I want to do like them? I was looking up to niggas from my hood though like that was rapping um like and then

they react he a older nigga my homie hollow was rapping baby was rapping before me too though baby was like actually going paying for studio time and shit like we was like 15 years old baby was like yeah yeah older than me so he was like 16 actually going to the studio and folks was Like he a year older than me So he was like 16 Actually going to the studio And Folks was smart He knew how to structure hooks

And do I ain't know how to do shit But rap Like I ain't know how to Put no hook Verse And know what a 16 bar was None of that type of shit

You feel what I'm saying But Oh he could tell you stories He didn't know either Jesus Throw me out there You say it all the time I'm saying

That's inspirational Like niggas I feel like niggas That know how to rap Never really knew How to put songs together though Like never really Like what what what

That's the same thing He's saying That's how I used to count bars The reason why That song What what what what That's how I used to count bars What what what what

He was counting his bars Exactly And they made that a hook And then Pharrell Was just a genius yeah nigga know how to be he just made I feel like Bibby was a nigga that probably would have knew how to do that same shit if you know what I'm saying like Bibby knew how to y'all don't want no drinks y'all good y'all good geez Louise Papa cheese we want y'all to have fun too you know what I mean

you know what I mean but I feel like yeah I feel like like we was getting the studio early like baby here he was he was like the brains when they came to like putting the songs together like kill shit right now still that's our biggest song this date that was his idea he picked the beat he the one told me go first on the shit you fell saying in the end you know it's like I just used to just rap for 30 bars 32 bars streets you feel I'm saying in the end you know it's like I just used to just rap for 30 bars 32 bars straight you feel I'm saying like alright bro always here like the structure so like when I first like I used to listen to what bro was on bump J another nigga that I really just like

super big baby and bump just slap Polaroid from Santa's like that like locally that was going crazy. That was like, that really made a nigga want to rap. You feel me? Right. And when you say you stopped writing your rhymes, you say you had them in your phone, and you was going off the top. Yeah. Were you doing the Biggie

Jay-Z shit, where you was writing in your head, or you just freestyling? No, I was like, yeah, kind of writing in my head, for sure. I definitely wasn't just freestyling off the top and going like that. Right. I was like, yeah, kind of writing in my head for sure. I definitely wouldn't just freestyle off the top and going like that. Right. I would like think of shit, like air four bars, and then just record it like that. You feel me? Right.

Or like even when I was writing, like I felt like I was wasting time writing because I'm thinking of this shit. And then when I'm writing shit, I'm thinking too long trying to write down one bar instead of just like, alright, that's already in my head, say it, boom. Say it right. And then just keep going from there, you feel me? I feel like I'm wasting, that's like, literally when you think about it. That's the elite, that's elite status shit. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie to you.

That's the elite status shit. I can't remember shit. Nah. Word. Yeah, nah, Southside used to say that too though when I first started recording with Southside, like he used to see my process. That's when I first, like that too though when I first started recording with Southside, he used to see my process. That was around the time when Juice was going crazy and shit, when I'm learning how to really freestyle for real.

So I used to just sit in the studio and listen to the beat and I'd probably listen to that bitch for like 5-10 minutes. But as I'm listening, niggas thinking I'm just listening to the beat, but in my head I'm coming up with at least like eight bars that I remember for sure. Once you come up with the first like eight to 12 bars, you good. I got like four, eight off the top of my head I could do. Now the next 12, all that shit like really a freestyle for me, I could just come in and just punch it. I feel like I always had like,

when I first started rapping, that shit don't really happen no more, it's a little easier for me. But I used to have the most trouble with like my first four and my last four Because I'm I'm trying to really make the most sense and tell the story anyway So it's like the last four going into the hook So you got a kind of? Coincide with the hook the first four is what you lead them with you got to get them intrigued with the first four bars At least you should understand.

So that was my whole motto. As long as my first four, if I'm coming in with eight bars, I can just cruise my way through and make sure my last four or two go into the hook. That's how I really learned how to freestyle, type of shit. Let's talk about I Don't Want to Die.

Yeah. Why would you name a song that? That was Southside. Really, that was Southside idea. I got to give credit to Big Broke. He sent me that song, and he was getting ready to drop his album, which still ain't came out to this day. This nigga's still living.

Damn, he rich. He about to drop right album, which still ain't came out to this day. This nigga still ain't. Damn, he rich. He about to drop right now though. But he was going to make that the intro to the next album he was dropping. And he just told me like, man, just go crazy. But he had put this sample in there where it was saying like, you know, I don't want to die. And he like, man, just go crazy on that shit.

And I was listening to it. And when I heard the sample, I was in Chicago, too, when I recorded that shit. That was during quarantine, matter of fact. One nigga just stuck in Chicago. And when I heard it, it just put a nigga in a different type of, like, man zone. But, like, the shit a nigga was rapping about,

I think it probably like was like right on key because i was in chicago you know when you're in chicago you got a different like it's a different aura you feeling that energy you feel i'm saying like all right if i'm in l.a i'ma ride around in a regular car you feel me in a regular foreign when i get to chicago i want to be in a bulletproof truck just a mask that is just what Chicago do, which is the shit I've been through and the shit I experience. It make me think and make me act the way I got to move and everything when I'm there. So I feel like I think just me doing that shit. And like, it's like that song really crazy, though. Like, when you really think about it, I'm talking about how I shot the video

with all the kids and all the different scenarios, kids situations. It's bigger than just being in the streets. When you're in Chicago, anything can happen. Kids get hit in strays, cross-bite. That shit is so frequent in Chicago, more than any other city so like it just put me in a different mind frame to try to like talk about my situation or like what

i experience and still like recollect to like what happened on the day-to-day that don't got nothing to do with anything street related you feel me because people try to like associate everything that's going on in Chicago with just like street but that like it's beyond that because it affects everybody you know what i'm saying it don't just affect victims that affect the mothers affected you know what i'm saying yeah it affect everybody who don't got nothing to do with nothing street oriented at all you feel me so the whole family is victim. Yeah, exactly. That's how like that shit came about like mentally. Like the shit

I was rapping about. Let me ask you because like in New York City, right? Every summer the crime rate goes up. Right. Because they say like

That shit like that in Chicago? Yeah. But y'all crime rate still crazy in the winter. Yeah. Yeah, but the summer's wild though. The summer even worse though. Yeah, yeah. The summer's even worse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The summer's even worse. They giveall crime rate's still crazy in the winter. Yeah, but the summer's wild, though. The summer's even worse, though.

Yeah, yeah, summer. Summer's even worse? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Summer's even worse. They get the crime rate. Crime rate is crazy. They be zero below, and they can still shoot. They got gloves, special gloves and stuff.

What the fuck happened? What a nigga got. I don't know. What a nigga got. I mean, shit is cold. It's not funny, but I get it. It's not funny, but it's like, you just think about it statistically, New York City, summertime. So you're saying in New York, like, the crime rate really, it don't really be as high during the winter.

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Not in the winter? That is the winter. I'm thinking in Chicago, not Canada. We don't got winter in Miami. I don't know. All right, calm down. All right. We get it.

All right. That's why I really like, I ain't going to let you get it. It be big to just like, like not even on no joke and shit to like talk about that shit. And people think like as an artist, you are glorified, you feel what I'm saying? But it's just like the experience and the shit nigga go through, you would think is mind blowing. You feel what I'm saying? Like how you saying that shit happened 365, no matter what, you feel me? And that's just built off, like, shit, whatever trauma motherfuckers got going on or what they going through,

you feel what I'm saying? So, like, as an artist, we just speak about this shit, you know what I'm saying? And that way, you feel me? But people would think, like, it's non-existent, but that shit really happened. Let's go back to Gangsta Rap started. Like, they called it Gangsta Rap, right? Whatever. N.W.A., you're going from

that lineage, right? I'm going lineage right And then you go into drill And then people try to say drill The difference that it did In hip hop Negatively is that it Started talking about real things Happening in real time And started getting people hurt

In real time because they're talking about real things In real time I feel like They can't really put all that responsibility And started getting people hurt in real time because they're talking about real things in real time. I feel like they can't really put all that responsibility on artists for one. No, you're right. You're right. And they can't put all that responsibility on just the category of drill because rap was always rap. Whether it was hip hop, gangster rap, you know what I'm saying?

Right. Who's to say N.W.A. not talking about things that was happening in real time and what's going on and how it affected other people? It's no different than what they were saying with Drill, you feel what I'm saying? Like, how we came up rapping, we didn't try to categorize rap. Like, all right, we finna just talk about a straight genre called Drill, you feel what I'm saying? We talking about negative shit, you know? We was just really just talking about our life and what we was experiencing, You know what I'm saying? We talking about negative shit. You know, we was just really just talking about our life and what we was experiencing. You feel what I'm saying?

That's what I don't like when they categorize things and they try to separate it. Yeah, yeah. I'm glad we having this conversation right now. No, because I think it's important because people try to, they want to separate it and then they isolate things and see like, this is whack, this is not whack, this is good, this is bad.

And then everybody feels they go into different areas and they're like, all we're not that but we're all hip-hop everything's hip-hop yeah that's what i'm saying old school new school this school that school south east coast it's all hip-hop it don't matter right that's what i'm saying so it's like that's what i ain't never really had a conversation where like i was it was it came in a way where we really able to categorize like it all being hip-hop right you know drill was just basically it was originally like a term it's not like we was just like oh this is drill rap this is not hip-hop you feel me it was all supposed to be rap and hip-hop because that happened here in miami because in miami that's what happened with miami base

yeah it tried to make it a subgenre it's not hip-hop it's miami base music right it's booty music they called it. Right. But now that we're in a different time frame, nah, it's all hip-hop. It's hip-hop. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. It's different areas, and they interpret hip-hop differently.

Right. So it's like, yeah. I ain't never, and that's crazy, even though people, when I used to do interviews, you could even pull my old interviews up. I never categorized myself or, like, looked at myself as a drill rapper. I always felt like I was a rapper, like a hip-hop artist. Because I rapped about, like, soulful shit. I never just only did drill beats, you know what I'm saying? I told stories in my rap.

I looked up to rappers, to Hov, to Lil Wayne, to Jadakiss, to, you know what I'm saying? And if the beat spoke to you, you could rhyme on it. Yeah, if the beat spoke to me, I could rap on it. That's what MC does, right. It's always versatile to be able to do that, you know? So I think I came up in an era where they just considered it drill, but I never really considered myself as a drill rapper anyway.

Make some noise for us. Make some noise for us right there. Yes, we got you more shots. I'm sorry. Let's do it. For no reason. Because you know why? Oh, you put ice in your shot?

That means we taking a shot. Yeah. Because you know why, brother? You Coachella. You really a legend out here. Appreciate it. You really deserve all the roses, the flowers, all the accolades, everything. You're out here, and you're doing it

honorably. You know what I mean? So many people from your generation will go... They take that funny route. We don't like that funny route. We like hard work. For real, man. I ain saying. Translation. They take that funny route. We don't like that funny route. We like hard work. Yeah, nah, for real, man. I ain't going to lie.

Nigga just really want to just do this shit the right way. Cheers. To you, motherfucker. Appreciate it. Be herbal. You don't want no drinks? I see you getting the drink. I see you.

I see you. The ladies, you don't want no drinks? They got some. They got some. Let's talk about riding with it. Riding with it. Riding with it, man. That was another song.

That's crazy. All these songs was shit I recorded during the quarantine period. When niggas really couldn't travel when I was on. Recording PTSD and all that shit was going on i felt like chicago was outside when people was inside yeah okay i was for like you didn't care about colby at all i did i was outside he was already quarantined before that i ain't gonna lie i didn't care about that i didn't i was outside yeah I went to Prime 112 one night. It felt like a club.

We was outside in the middle of COVID quarantine. We was outside on my block. It was violent? Yeah. It was? Yeah. Literally. That's because of Miami.

Can you say that again? What? I said, we outside on my block, 200 deep in the middle of quarantine. In the middle of COVID. Motherfuckers dying left and right. I was outside. I was outside. I shoot the video.

I just bought my Rolls Royce. Spent $500. No mask. Rolls Royce. Just bought the color. They put that bitch right up on the block. Shot the video. You feel me?

I was just, you know, like. Mask on? No. Yeah, I had the Dior mask in the video. Bro, you know that? There's the Dior mask on, man, in the trenches. But, yeah, that song was. when I look back at it, man, it just make me for real really be just grateful for the moment of what you get.

First and foremost as an artist, because as an artist, I mean, that's one of my biggest songs still to this date, and that's just me on some. That's the shit i just do naturally like comfortable on some rapping shit just talking about you know i'm saying the trenches and what i'm thinking on the day-to-day you feel me that's still one of my biggest songs today what i'm saying is to say like it just make a nigga like grateful looking back because i wasn't even thinking of what it was gonna be to this day and just looking back at people from the video that's

like not even still here to this day, people that are lost, you feel what I'm saying? Like shit like that. You just got to not take moments for granted. Right. God bless. Do you, because a lot of people say living in LA

is dangerous as well. Do you look at it like that? Yeah. Yeah? That's where you live now? Yeah. I look at it, I mean, I really look at every place like that just because I feel like to be aware is to be alive. You know what I'm saying?

I always, I'm a super alert. People might look at it Like I'm paranoid Or whatever But I'm just always Thinking of like How I was raised I think of the Worst case scenario So I can always

Be prepared to Just do whatever To make sure I get home To make sure I'm protected And my family protected You feel what I'm saying So like I feel like

And it's crazy Because I moved to LA To get away from That type of shit Right I moved to LA to get away from that type of shit right but you were in LA right you wild for that yeah like no I'm so I moved to LA because I just not even get away from like violence and shit but like I felt like in Chicago at the time it was like a crab in a bucket mentality crab in a barrel mentality type shit by the same because that happens in every city in every big city

each in there is a crab in a book I had to like yeah so it was like I felt like LA was to get away from that and I could

go and you know be with my family and be with my kids and go enjoy life and enjoy myself without always looking over my shoulder

you know what I'm saying but like I'm still taking precaution no matter where I'm at you know what I'm saying? But, like, I'm still taking precaution no matter where I'm at, you know what I'm saying? Right. I want to be careful how I ask this.

Because I know you're 28, so you probably can't fully understand this, but do you realize they say the first gangs that ever was invented was in Chicago? Yeah, nah, yeah, I ain't gonna lie. I really be like, it's like, I be paying attention, and I study that type of shit. I'm big on history, you know what I'm saying?

No matter what, man. Definitely the biggest gang. Yeah. I'm big on just history you know what I'm saying? No matter what. I mean, like I'll... Definitely the biggest gang. Yeah. I'm big on just history. Especially black history. Like anything black history, any type of, you know what I'm saying? Like I'll be into that type of shit.

So yeah, I know. I feel like a lot of shit was brought on just by all of the culture and generational trauma type of shit, you feel me? Because kind of LA's culture, I don't want to say mimicked, because that might be the wrong word, but I believe Black P-Stones.

Yeah. It's like the first gang in Chicago, and Black P-Stones is the oldest gang in L.A. Or one of the oldest gangs. That's crazy. I did not say that. That transformed into what? Oh. What would it transform into in L.A.?

Bloods. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, but that originated in Chicago. Wasn't Chris before Bloods? Yeah, but that's the blood part of it. You know what I mean?

So I believe Raymond Washington, if I'm not... I mean, we definitely don't... I don't know. I'm not... We don't know this. But what I'm saying is the first recorded gang. That definitely originated in Chicago. Yeah, originated in Chicago.

For sure. Like, I don't know if it's the terminology that they use, gang, if that's what it is. Yeah, that gang definitely originated in Chicago. Like, I remember going to Chicago, I swear to God, and I had my leg, my past leg up. Yeah. And people were like, yo, yo, yo, yo. One up?

Yeah, I didn't know what the fuck was happening. They thought it was some gang shit. That meant something? It was some gang shit, yeah. I was wearing my hat the wrong way one time. They were like, yeah. I know the hat, but I ain't never heard about the leg shit. Yeah.

Maybe you had your leg and your hat on the same side. Yeah, I was in Puerto Rican section. That was some weird ass shit. Yeah, look. They're telling me not to talk about it. That's some weird ass shit. That never happened. Oh!

Let's take a shot for that. Let's take a shot for that. God damn it. That was some weird ass shit. Let's take a shot for that. Motherfucker, That was some weird- Let's take a shot for that. Motherfucker, G-Ear-O. Let's make some noise for fucking G-Ear-O! Do not let him convince you to take a shot of that.

I ain't taking a shot of that. All right, but can you stand my candle up, please? Oh, shit. His candle. Thank you, bro. Kill shit. Kill shit. Kill shit, man. A little bit, man.

We were speaking about it earlier. Yeah. Like I said, bro, put that whole shit together. That's crazy. Damn. I ain't never really even spoke with this. I recorded that verse in my little brother's career, man. Long live Lil' Greg.

Lil' bro just passed away three years ago yesterday. Yesterday was his three-year anniversary. God bless. Take a shot. Let's take a shot. Let's take a shot. Let's take a shot for Lil' bro, man. Yeah.

Oh, you got to put me in another shot. Take a shot for Lil Bro, man. Yeah. Oh, you got to pull me another shot. But yeah, I recorded that video in the living room, at a little bro spot. And Bibi really put the whole shit together. Shout out DJ L. Recorded, I mean, cooked the beat up right on the spot. Shit. And we really, like, I think that's probably still one of my biggest streaming songs to this day. We really ain't even, like, know what we was doing with that shit. We shot the video, man.

We was probably 16, 17 years old. We shot that video at 5, 5 in the morning on was almost any man on sending a for Kingston it's outside posted up on some young shit just I got a video viral man I got a video that's still viral oh sure I want you to take this shot for Lil Bruh, man. Salute. Salute. For Lil Broski. I got a video viral of me and Bibi freestyling. I was freestyling. It's Bibi standing next to me.

Hey, come on. That's not me. This is drunk. I had DJ L, DJ L who made the beat. He was cooking the shit up on the spot. Like literally it's 4, 5 in the morning, niggas, Youngest Hill, Breaking Curfew, 20 Deep on the block. And this shot, nigga Jordan shot the video just on some random shit, bro. And that shit just went legendary, man. Just kids trying shit. Like, you feel what I'm saying? When I look back on it, you know what I'm saying?

Like, we didn't even know where that shit was going. We just shot that shit on some random shit on the block, literally 4, 5 in the morning. And that shit took us where it needed to go. Goddamn. Fucking beautiful. All right. All right, by the way, this is three questions back to back

because we got three fucking records with Lil Uzi Vert. Yeah, yeah, Vert. That's my man. We got, me and bro got on my phone. We got everything. He on the Who Run and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got this.

Trying to think. By the way, I forgot why I seen him It was like 7 o'clock in the morning Yeah You saw him At 7 o'clock in the morning Yeah and I sent him a shot

And he took it At 7 o'clock in the morning Yeah Yeah that sound like him What shot did you send him Whatever he wanted I asked the waiter Whatever they wanted

He's at another table I was like yo I was testing him I was like yo Tell him Send him Send him whatever he wanted. I asked the waiter. whatever they want. Yeah, he's at another table. I was like, yo, I was testing him. I was like, yo, tell him, send him, send him whatever he wants.

And he was like, yeah. He took the shot. He walked over to my table and I sent him another shot and he took it and then he sent me another shot and we was going all night.

I was like, it's, I don't want to say where. Yeah, bro, I got pictures of it. Nah, bro, real nigga. For sure. Like, me and Uzi, I'll come up It's I don't wanna say where Yeah bro Real nigga We got pictures of it Nah bro

Real nigga For sure Like me and Uzi I ain't gonna lie to Me and Uzi Got a different relationship bro Me and bro Been locked in like

Literally since like The beginning Like I met Uzi Since beginning of his career Like literally Type of shit You feel me This my shot?

I mean it's not ours yeah I took my shot already yeah so is this my shot you definitely didn't drink

unless your ice melted I think your ice melted that was just hanging around your buddy just melted

that's probably just ice you got ice in them motherfuckers That's probably I ain't gonna lie to you If you would've hit that Stoli Elite With concrete You wouldn't be discreet

I ain't run the ball It was not me I don't know Let's go with who run it first Who run it man Shout out to my boy Bebe Shout out Bebe for Dallas for sure Man that's go with who run it first yeah who run it man shout out to my boy baby man shout baby for dallas for sure uh-huh man that's who run it that's crazy i'll be like when i'm thinking about

shit like that that shit taught me like i had there's some funny ass shit right i stole my toe i hit my toe on the fucking ears of the bed. My shit was hurting bad as fuck. I couldn't even put my shoe on. Which toe? Is that relevant? God damn it. The little toe? I couldn't walk. The little toe?

The little one, bro. Fuck me up. Did your shit turn black? Man, it was fucked up. It was, yeah, the top was fucked up. He wants to know, like, how does your toe really look, though? Man, I couldn't walk, bro. I'm a toe banger, bro. He's like, can you take a picture of your toe? I ain't taking a picture of your toe really look though? I'm a toe banger bro.

He's like, can you take a picture of your toe? I ain't a toe banger bro. Look, to this day, nobody know this. I really went up to the shit, rolled up on the little channel, the little one that rolled, it wasn't a wheelchair, you know the little chair that spin around the fork. I rolled one of them bitches all the way on the elevator up to the shit, did the freestyle. Once it was fucked up, I'm like, man, I ain't even want up to the shit, did the freestyle. My shit was fucked up.

I'm like, man, I ain't even want to do this shit, but this shit went so viral after that, I'm like, damn, man, I got to just start doing shit when I don't even want to do it. Like, fuck it, just go through it. That shit taught me a little mental lesson. But anyway, I had did the freestyle and put that shit on my page.

Then Drake had DM'ed me, like, man, make that shit a song. Okay, tell me. Bro. Say that again. I had did the freestyle. I've told you, shout out my nigga Baby. I did the freestyle after I stubbed my toe. Drake slid in your DMs

After your toe was hurt After I posted the shit on my page Drake hit me in the DM Like man make that shit a song Drake is a legend He's a legend And he told you you're the future He did

That's hard Y'all gotta do a record together man Y'all gotta get a record together He can't. You guys got to do a record together, man. That's the best thing. Nah, y'all got to get a record together. He can't say that and then not do the record with you. You know that, man. Me and my bro get it done. You know that. You play basketball?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who you think? Me and Drake. Yeah. Hey, what big bro what? Man, we gave Drake ass work, man. He was mad. He put us out of the studio.

We won. He avows to it. He know we won. They lost. Wait, wait, wait. Tell me all. We was in the studio. It was me, big bro.

Who was Hooper? Okay, hold on. So what happened? All right, tell us. We was at the crib in L.A. Hooping. Who was on our team? It was me, big bro.

Who's big bro? We need to know. A1 right there. That's big bro. Okay. who was on our team it was me Big Bro who's Big Bro we need to know A1 right there that's Big Bro okay Addy was on our team shout out my nigga Adderall

on bro and Dash so this is Chi-Town against Toronto is this what happened uh uh it was

that was awful Dash Dash he um my bro Aaron Shirai you know big CEO over at Gaffin on Brody.

Okay. On Brody. So it's four on four? And we was playing, we played Drake, Lil Man, we played Drake, 21 Savage, we was on their team. It was like two more people on it, we bust their ass though. You're not going to tell me. We were on like two, three points. Drake and 21 Savage You're not going to tell me. Drake and 21 Savage. Bust Drake and 21 Savage.

Yeah, 21 was playing with them, too. But that was a little scrimmage, though. I ain't really going to do too much bad things on them. I ain't going to lie. You beat yourself up and took it back. I'm not sure. Hold on. We won.

We won. Yeah. What was the game? What was it like like how many points how many boys right played like 11 will 11 this machine was probably like all for info for half-court right now full court okay full court yeah bro where was In LA. In LA. So you smoked Drake. And 21-7. We won in the 4-4. Yeah, we beat them.

That's what happened. Everybody knows. I just want to be commentary for part two. You know that? Once this shit go viral, they going to contest to it. Let's start the basketball. Everybody going to want to rematch. You know how this shit go. We're going to do the side commentary?

Yeah, I want to do the side commentary. We're going to host it. We're going to host it. We're going to give our shots. And it's going to be a charity game. We can't wait. So you saying if you, all right, so you and who against Drake and 21 Savage, two on two? Me and bro.

Me and bro. You don't want no smoke? He just said no. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it. I'm J.R. Martinez. I'm a U.S. Army veteran myself, and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these

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Right. I think making a record because just to create a space I feel like when you like from an artist's perspective in my opinion

I'm already making the record with purpose and knowing if I'm going to perform it shoot it or whatever already. You already know what you're doing with the record. Exactly. So it's like I'm already making the record With purpose And knowing If I'm going to perform And shoot it Or whatever Already You already know What you're doing

With the record Exactly So it's like I'm already like Once I'm at least Getting the process of it I can figure How this is going to

Recollect in shows Or whatever From the first day I make it You know what I'm saying Shows, video However it's going to be You know what I'm saying

And you do a lot of festivals And shit right Yeah I do festivals Yeah that's what I'm saying? And you do a lot of festivals and shit, right? Yeah, I do festivals. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, I heard you be at the big festivals. Yeah, I done Lala's. I did Lala's and, you know, Rolling Louds and all that shit. Yeah, all the big festivals.

That's Urban. Yeah, yeah. I like the fact that you say, that some people say that they think that you don't have a hit record. But you say, I can't tell because my fans is a hit for the fans. It don't matter. Every motherfucking night. So it's like, I'll be saying this a lot. Like, not in a bad way.

I feel like it's obviously like I feel like I'm one hit record away because I never really caught a break while I went top billboard or no shit like that, you know what I'm saying? But I always built a core fan base because I stayed consistent in a way where I fed the, you know what I'm saying, the people who fuck with me, you feel me, like organically. Whether it's like me dropping enough projects or me just being featured on enough shit because everybody fuck with me and I'm, you know what I'm saying, delivering in that type of way. And I ain't going to lie, I feel like i ain't never really had the advantage to just really drop consistently how i wanted to because i ain't never mapped it out the way i wanted to you know what i'm saying like and i'm saying that like on some shit where like me being independent the

whole time i can't drop music but I ain't never really like, put no role elsewhere. It's like, all right, but I'm finna drop four mixtapes, or two albums, or some shit like that. With a certain budget,

that allocates how you do it. Exactly, because you know, a nigga really doing this shit independent, so everything is really happening. It's how you can do it, when you can do it. You feel what I'm saying?

Exactly, you know how this shit goes. Yeah. It's like, I feel like we're having that if I would have had the advantage to really do that from a perspective

of somebody who got a labor budget or whatever, hearsay, you know what I'm saying? Like, shit, I feel like

shit would have probably like slowed me down. I'm glad it, like, you know what I'm saying? I'm glad I built some shit organically where it's like, I don't have'm saying? I'm glad I built some shit organically

where it's like, I don't have to chase it, right? I don't have to chase it. You're better than most artists to be honest with you, bro. You know what I'm saying?

You don't need that machine. You don't need that budget. If the budget comes to you eventually, you're going to know how to use it, but you don't need that. Like,

to have, to not have a hit record, like, the technical hit record and have the following you have is amazing man I'm like in like salutes. Your fans are crazy Yeah, it's like I feel like that shit really But I'm gonna be his devil advocate if they come with that bag them labels take that goddamn bro

Read the contract, bro. Yes, of course. Don't just take the bag. The bag is that. Don't read the contract. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The bag is a loan, man. It's a loan.

It's not a bag. It's very true. It's a bag that they say, I'm going to hold on to it a little bit. It's like this. It's very true. I don't lie. I feel like it was, like I said, it was like some, I didn't even know what it, like in my mind I didn't know what it was, I felt like I was building like a real business where I can go, I got the opportunity to like say yeah, Nick, you know what I'm saying, you feel me, like we're building that because I don't have to like, I could put out music and just feed my audience like no I gotta make sure I got a single or whatever Before I drop out what you know I'm Stanley just certain shit

I got the advantage is just pros and cons with being able to just be like Independent having a core fan base was like they just wait on me to drop music They don't get no fuck where you're in a place where every artist wants to be in. Yeah, they tone in for features. Every single artist wants to be where you're at. It don't matter what the fuck I drop or how I drop it. They just tone in for what's coming up. And you got this weird balance, right? Because what I mean by that is most of the time you have the respect from the fans or you have the respect from the industry.

A lot of people don't have that balance of having both. And you got that. Like, you got the respect from the fans. The fans respect you equally how the industry respects you. And that's like, I said, I labeled it weird because I have no other word to name it because that's weird. I've never seen that. I've never really seen the equal amount of respect.

Do you feel that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's just like, and when I hear from like, when I hear from people, yeah, we can definitely take a shot for that. You know that.

Let's take two shots for that? Let's do that. I'm in. Let's do two shots. It's your show, brother. Let's do it, man. It's your show. It's our show. It's your show.

Because I ain't going to lie. Salud. We've been doing it. I said two shots. Okay. Well, I need another one. We've been doing this. No, no, but I said two shots. She's in a baffling.

I got you. But that's a seldom, very rare thing. Nah, I be noticing that, though, bro. I ain't gonna lie. It just comes from being silent, man. I just be trying to, like... And it's like... I feel like, in a way, no funny shit. I think when I was so young and when this shit started taking off for me,

I think I didn't just, like, understand my star power, understand who I was, why I never really got close to, like, certain other artists or did certain shit. How to capitalize on that? Yeah, I didn't capitalize on it early on. You feel what I'm saying. How to capitalize on that? Yeah, I didn't capitalize on it early on. You feel what I'm saying? I suffer from that. I felt like with that, like, and people fucked with me.

By the time it got to a point where I think I felt comfortable with myself, people fucked with me and then I was able to build genuine relationships. Whereas, like, now these people I fuck with, I actually fuck with, like, on a genuine relationship level or a personal relationship level. Or business relationship. Business relationship, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's just really grown on that type of shit. Right.

You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I think that just came from really, it was natural, though, because I wasn't, and I see now, like, I started learning years later, that shit really handled my career, where it's like certain shit, I wasn't pulling up to certain shows when artists was in town,

to come out and do certain shit. Like, I remember one time, bro, I ain't gonna lie, my homie Kobe, man, God rest his soul, he got killed in 2013. And T.I. had came to the town. He had came to Chicago. And he was, like, you know, trying to get up with a nigga. Like, Tip was trying to get up.

He was like, man, you wanted me to pull up to the shop on Stoney. But literally, I sort of got him outside waiting on the ambulance. I'm picking my homie buddy up off the ground. We right there. Sorry for that, bro. Watching him. You feel what I'm saying? Like, certain shit, like,

I feel like it hindered, like, hindered my career because I used to have that same type of mindset where I wasn't just doing shit because I felt like

I was, like, too, like, deep in the streets or I felt like I was too, like,

stuck in my ways where I ain't want to, like, put myself in an uncomfortable environment or uncomfortable like place to try to like go mingle with other people or stars and shit like that you know what I'm saying like because I ain't want to like just go on a limb or just trying to like right you feel me so it's just I don't, for years and years, that shit was my problem, though. Right.

I moved to Miami, right? I would like to say Miami saved my life, right? Me. You're welcome. Damn. Tell them how you really feel. I feel the same way about it. Yeah, I would like to say that Miami kind of saved my life, right?

Because, but I still get those phone calls. Yo, such and such, it's over for him. You know, he just died. They killed him over there, there, there. I felt to a certain extent Miami helps me deal with that pain. Does being in L.A. help you? Because, I mean, I'm sure we get the same phone call. No, that's what I'm saying.

I feel like L.A. definitely did that. That's dope. Even, like, just being in a different environment, that energy is not around me. You feel what I'm saying? I remember Chief Keef moved to L.A., right? Exactly. Right. He got with the paintball shit. That's why I really—

He got with the paintball shit. That's why I really— With the paintball shit. That's another reason why I really just, like, fuck with Sosa so much, because he just always took a chance and just done shit. Like, he just went to L.A., you feel me? Like, that gave other niggas, like, aspects. Like, damn, if Sosa could do it, we could do it.

Like, that's what I felt like. Right. You feel me? Like, Sosa moved to L.A., I was like, I could go to L.A. You know what I'm saying? I know, bro. Absolutely. And I went and did it.

You know, like, but that shit was like, that shit wasn't possible to us. Like, niggas going to move to L.A. type of shit. You feel me? Los Angeles. Los Angeles. On a Schwarzenegger limit. Going and never coming back. Like, that was my intention. Like, I'm going to go. Going and never coming back. Like that was my intentions.

Like, I'm going to go out there and never come back. You feel me? Like, that's what I felt like. And still rep the city. And still rep the city. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But of course, nigga really went back and, you know what I'm saying?

But I'm just saying like, we ain't even think that shit was possible for folks going out there. That made me like, all right, man. If folks could do it, we could do it. That's real shit. So about Blues featuring Future. Blues on Broadway. It's very hard to get Future on the record.

On form, yeah. You cannot get Future on the record. Yeah, no, Pluto. Very hard. That's big, bro. No, I ain't gonna lie. Future, like, no bullshit. He wanted to, like,

real, like, real niggas that really, like, gave nigg to like real like real needs they're really like gay niggas some like guidance when they came to real life shit like this why I really fuck with fuck with big bro for real cuz he employed you to the side and like taste some shit that you wouldn't even think he was paying attention to like that's what made me know like big bro was a real nigga like he had come to me some shit like yeah man I seen this or some shit. That guy probably do it like, yo, Carell, what's some personal shit? And you wouldn't even think he know.

Big up Future. Big up, yeah, Big Bro for real. Because that lets you know he really fuck with you. He genuinely trying to tell you some shit that really help you, you feel what I'm saying? So music- He seen the whole shit. He been down with

Dungeon Family back then. Yeah, for sure. He's hip hop. The first time I met Big Bro was in the hood anyway, like in my neighborhood, you feel what I'm saying? What?

First time you met Future was in where? Yeah, hell yeah. Shout out to Zona, man. Big Bro. First time I met Pluto was We call him Future. Yeah, Future. We realize you've been calling him Pluto. Pluto in the future. man, big bro, first time I met Pluto was... We call him Future.

We realize you've been calling him Pluto for a long time. We realize you're privileged. If you call him Pluto, you're privileged. Yeah, that's his nickname. He's in the world. Yeah, but first time I met bro was shit, like 2016 or some shit. And, like, in my neighborhood, though, like, right by my apartment.

Where he was just hanging out in your neighborhood? On the road. Nah, stop. For real. No bullshit. He didn't call you? Nah, he was outside posted up in the trenches, man. Nah.

Nah, stop that. I ain't better for real Through to just outside on your hook in your hood on bro Plot by the mother who's was on a man's child's on on funnel. Yeah First time I met him just pulled up on on some random shit But yeah, bro real nigga ain't know you before you met him like you just you just rolled up on him. Nah, he ain't know me, hell nah. Not for real. He knew me a little bit, but not know me yet.

That's fire. Oh, bro. We'll make some noise for future. Oh, bro, you know that. That's dope. So let's talk about this record. How'd it come about? Sizzle, on bro, Southside, shout out Southside.

He had put the shit together um i was putting the album together we was in miami i had pulled up on him you know bro he you know that shit easy for bro for for for future man that shit he definitely don't write yeah that shit come like second nature you pull up on bro in the studio you just play some shit if he fuck with it that shit then it take him like 20 minutes he just like I ain't never really like and I ain't gonna lie when he recorded that shit when he

recorded it I had went back on my second verse cause like I seen like how he like his whole process and shit like how he did it it made me go back it made me go back on my shit on the second part, on the second part of my verse. Just basically how you go different cadences.

I be song some rap shit, I just really just try to go bop for bop. After bro put some shit on there I may maybe like take the bars off go different cadence like awesome a lot of shit type shit but like yeah shout out the broke on phone he gonna hear he just challenged and they can just awesome hey it was a recording process he get in it just any I'm sure any nigga could contest when you get in the studio of Pluto, like how you record. It just makes you want to like, it makes you get motivated. Pluto, she's out to change. Listen, because you got like

15,000 features, right? Yeah, I got a lot of features. I like your flag. I got you sauced up. True, true. Has there ever been somebody that fronted on you that you wanted to

do a record with? Let's keep it real now. You want to drink champs? Keep it real now. It's one person that fronted on everybody. Let's just keep it real. I got Maya. Maya fronted on me.

She's coming on to this. She didn't front on you, but you did a record with her. Yes, I did a record with her. She fronted on me. She fronted on you? Yes. I won't really say fronted,

but if I was going to say any feature I really anticipated coming out that never really came out that I would try to fuck with was Ye Head. Ye Head pulled me. This is before Don though. That was like two, three years ago. I was

locked in. We had two, three songs. I pulled up on them in the rack. Then I did some other shit in New York. He had sent me. You had blonde hair at this time? This was like right before the blonde hair. Before the blonde?

Yeah. Before the spots in the hair too? No, because I'm trying to figure out. Oh, bro. Oh, bro. This was right before that. Before the spots in the hair? Oh, bro.

Okay, all right. So y'all went in the studio in Chicago? Yeah, in Chicago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. right before that. Before the spots in the head? Okay, all right. So y'all went in the studio in Chicago? Yeah, in Chicago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. God damn it. But we had did some shit. He really, like, I laid some shit. Then he told me to redo it.

Of course, you know how he is. He's super, like, strategic, picky and shit. But when he did it, I feel like when he told me to redo it, that shit was over, over hard. Like, he made me do some crazy shit. You wasn't feeling it? No, no, I did. I i liked it i fucked with the shit so you was agreeing with him telling you to redo it but like um what really what i'm saying is like when i did the shit the shit i'm thinking the shit was gonna come out on his project but i was trying to use it too though i was trying to use it for some of my shit so he basically ain't letting me use it for me trying to use it too though I was trying to use it for some of my shit so he

basically ain't let me use it for me trying to get some shit thinking it's gonna come on his shit and then they never come on his shit but other than that I ain't really sure why couldn't you use it cuz I want to use it no more after it was now you already put my shit my shit up. You didn't want to use it. Huh? You didn't want to use it. No, I had already put my project out. Oh, okay, okay, okay. So, if you have a chance, would you work with Kanye right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah? You want to produce or produce and feature? You know, he probably, like, how he ain't work, he definitely going to produce the shit anyway unless somebody else do it. You feel what I'm saying? But't work, he ain't going to produce the shit anyway unless somebody else do it. You feel what I'm saying?

I ain't going to lie to you. I just got a different type of love for Ye because, you know, he's from the career, man. Yeah. I got a love. No, but he's a super genius. Let me just tell you something. Yeah, super genius. I write rhymes and calligraphy in my mind.

Calligraphy huh Yeah Wow I killed that Out of control right now And graffiti Calligraphy And graffiti Calligraphy

Calligraphy You like it You like it You like it No one If I give you If I show you How I write rhymes

You'll be like There's no way That's a rhyme The only man In the world That can read My rhymes If I show you how I write rhymes, you'll be like, there's no way that's a rhyme. The only man in the world that could read my rhymes. Was Kanye? That man read my shit. We were in Carbone.

We sitting there. What's the guy's name? I don't know what you were saying. What's the guy's name? Kyle. Trump's. Trump's homie? Jared Kushner. Come on, that's a weird

name drop right now, bro. Oh, you think I'm bullshit? No, no, no, I don't think I'm bullshit. Oh, I got the flicks and everything. You know who he's talking about? No. Yeah. You know who he's talking about?

So I'm in Carbone. Trump's daughter's husband. Yeah, yeah. So I'm in Carbone. Who was a part of Trump's cabinet. Yeah, yeah. He, yeah. So I'm in Carbone. Who was a part of Trump's cabinet. Yeah, yeah. He really is. So I'm in there, and then Ye said something to me, and I'm like, oh, yeah.

And Jarrett was right there? Yeah, Jarrett, yeah. And Jarrett, he said, listen, Nori, I like your ride, bro. Stop, stop, stop. He said, what, what, what? I was like, so Ye said something, and I said, oh, shit. Look, I was writing this earlier. So, I showed it to him thinking, like, because no one can read my handwriting.

It's just not possible. Nobody. Capone, my wife. Nobody. That nigga, yeah, he read my shit. Like, he was prell. He was like, he really read it. When he was rapping it, though, I'm saying yay read my shit Look he was proud Think it was like he really really knew what he was rapping it though. I'm saying like yes He's rapping it like he's reading it like he's you

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He said something. Like, all right. And this is real talk. He had just did the Cardi B verse. So when he did the Cardi B verse, he said something. And I was like, holy shit, look. I wrote that this morning. Whatever he said on the Cardi B verse, I was like, look, look, look.

I just wanted to say I wrote that. So most people would look at that one line and give you back your phone. He sat there and read my whole rhyme. He was like. How many verses you had? How many bars? It was like a 24-bar verse. And he read it?

The whole line? The fucking line. I said, motherfucker. I never. Capone can't do that. I rapped Capone for my whole fucking life. But he rapped it in a way that you were like, it sounded like me? Yes.

What'd you say? He rapped it in what? Because this is the thing. You're saying that he said it in a way that it sounded like you? Yes. Yes. I swear to God. I had never.

I gave him my phone expecting him to read it. That's what I'm trying to figure out. You said he read it or you said he read it... Like, you confused... Wait, hold on. Please, I'm here for this shit. So you're saying he read it off your notes, right? Or your handwriting?

It's not your handwriting. No, it's my handwriting. His phone, his phone. No, it's my handwriting. It's my handwriting. It's your handwriting too. It's not your handwriting, bro. Stop it, bro. What do you mean? It was my handwriting. It's my handwriting. His phone, his phone. No, it's my handwriting. It's my handwriting. He wrote it on his phone. On his phone. It's your handwriting, too. It's not your handwriting, bro. Stop it, bro.

What do you mean? It was my handwriting. It was my notes. It was my notes. It's not your handwriting. Wait, what? Stop. Wait, what?

You, you, you had another. You had another verse. So wait, is he tripping or am I tripping? He's tripping. Okay, what? It's not your phone, right? It's on my phone. So it's on your handwriting.

All right, listen, listen, listen. All right, let me reiterate what I just said. He plays me the Cardi B verse that he had just did for Cardi B. This is not out. All right. So one line on there, I wanted him to know, oh, shit, what you just said, I wrote this morning on my phone, so I show him my voice notes. My voice, not my voice notes, excuse me.

You know, the yellow pad. But you ain't handwriting shit. Oh, it's not my handwriting, okay. Come on! You motherfuckers, you fucking fat motherfuckers. You know who the fuck I'm being. So I'm tripping though, that's my fault. But what I'm saying is-

No, that's your fault, don't take fault for that. No, what I'm saying is- But wait, the reason why I'm saying this- I write and give feedback to my friends. I write and give feedback to my friends. I write and give feedback to my friends. I write and give feedback to my friends. I write and give feedback to my friends. I write been. All right, wait. No, no, no. So I'm tripping, though. That's my fault. But what I'm saying is. No, it's not your fault. No, no, no.

Don't take fault for that. No, what I'm saying is I write in graffiti. But wait, the reason why I'm saying it's my fault. I don't. You write in graffiti. You write in graffiti. Yeah, you write in graffiti. Yeah, I write A.

Right. You know. I don't know what the fuck they did. B. C. D. What I'm saying, no one can't read my shit Alright

Cause I'm writing graffiti Alright, so he read it But I'm saying Alright, so even how he read it He read it in your flow How you would've rapped it too He read it like me Like how you would've rapped it

Yes Right And I got scared As a motherfucker I said, give me back my phone How many bars you Like like, it was? It was like 24. He hit all 24.

Like, he was just like, and I'm looking at this motherfucker like, because I'm like, who the hell said that? And I'm like, oh, shit, it's my phone. Give me my shit back. That nigga's a genius. I believe that. That nigga's a genius. believe that genius still my lawyer fees lawyer fees

let's see this that's Polo again man you know for me a little bit yeah me a liberal got a different type of chemistry man we call him you got nickname for a but what he said oh bro I said Apollo. That's just Broski. I'm broke. Okay. Well, yeah, man. We got a different type of chemistry for sure. Like, I said we get it. He comes in threes, bros. Thank you.

Listen, guys. I got nothing to do with this side of the room. What? Like that? Look, look. Oh, bro. Yeah, no. We didn't do that.

We didn't do that once. They should have been for COVID time. Yeah, we had to. No, look. Oh, bro. When we take something real quick. You know. When we do that one. Champagne. Champagne. They should have been for the Champagne. Yeah, we had Champagne. No, we didn't. They should have fought with the Champagne. Champagne. Oh, bro.

How about Kodak? What's your, you and Kodak? Kodak, man. Yeah, that's my boy. Champagne's off the chain. Is Kodak still locked up? Champagne going to break. He's home?

Bro, home? Yeah, for sure, man. That's good, man. That's good. That's the homie. Oh, bro. That's my dog. Yeah, I fuck with, for sure, man. That's good, man. That's good. That's the homie. Bro, that's my dog. Nah, Kodak's a good dude, bro. Yeah.

Yeah, Kodak. Thank you. I ain't going to lie. You cannot. We love you, Kodak. Yeah, bro. Stay home. Stay home, Kodak.

We love you. Bro. I love that. I fuck with that boy. Let me just say something. Let me address the critics Real quick The critics of what? A lot of people was like

Oh my god He was so fucking high On drink chance He was so fucking drunk That's a lie That motherfucker Stayed here for four hours Afterwards

If he was high And fucked up You out of here As soon as you leave That motherfucker Stayed out here And shut down a block. The whole block.

He stayed here and fucking signed autographs. Bro. Like. Yeah, nah, bro, man, that nigga smart as hell, man. Kodak and Rail 1, man. Like, come on, man. Let's leave that shit alone. And I hate addressing shit like that,

but I want to defend him. I want to defend him. He was not high. He was cool. He was just Kodak, man. Yeah, bro. Yeah, well, Yak was just being Yak, man. I don't bro.

And that's the thing about y'all generation. There's a lot of our generation started to judge y'all generation, there's a lot of our generation started to judge y'all in that aspect. What I mean is, we was exactly y'all. Exactly everything y'all did, we did. But then now that we're older,

we would say, why would they let him do that? I think it's probably like the internet perception. Like, everything being broadcasted on the internet. You feel what I'm saying? I think that's the difference with everything, bro. Like, everybody quick to judge us and, like, judge us.

You know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, bro, every, like, every artist, everybody got their own flaws, got their own, you know what I'm saying? Like, personal shit going on. you know what I'm saying, but like, I ain't saying like no artist, for instance, or whatever the case may be, like, and I'm glad that you saying that, because shit, all we did was follow the footsteps of what we seen and what we knew, you know?

We was looking up the aisle. Which is not necessarily right. Which is not necessarily right. That wasn't necessarily right, but it was right because at the end of the day, it was the foundation of helping us get to where we are.

You know what I'm saying? Y'all done something that was unthinkable or obscene or unheard of. It was wrong. Y'all broke the deal. It was wrong. It was wrong.

I always say something. Our generation fucked up. Right. Our generation fucked up. So. Our generation fucked up. So whatever y'all fucked up is, is kind of our mistake. And I'm not blaming, I'm not blaming Nori or this person.

I ain't blaming, ain't nobody pointing no fingers. No, no, but I'm a part of that. No, I'm telling you something right now. I'm from the DJ aspect, not the artist aspect, but the DJ aspect. What happened is,

in the 90s, hip hop started making money, real money. Real money. Right. This is my opinion. Right. I can't tell you what it is. It's my opinion.

And what I think happened is that the artist said, oh, shit. We making real money. We're not going to ever get old. Right. It's like the YOLO forever. Right. We're not going to pass down information And we're not going to change anything

This is not a culture We're going to make this business We're going to make money forever And that's what happened There was a stagnation of information Of culture and business You can hit you with mad big words Stagnation of information

Nah but he knows these words. Nah, he don't know these words. He knows these fucking words. It's just real, man. And that's what happened, bro. There was a part of a section of time where people stopped

informing each other. Nah, but for sure, he right, though. We picked up the back, the shit shit the backlash and everything y'all did right and wrong everything y'all did right we picked up everything wrong y'all did we picked up too you feel i'm saying it was yeah wrong and right so it's like it was a you know we we gotta of course be grateful we gotta take what come with it like you see you to take that come good and the bad. But as far as like the perspective of imagery, like the perspective of an artist and what you put out and the negativity that come behind that and just the misinformation of the business. And whatever it takes to make bread.

Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Like you just said the same thing. So, like, both of them, it was like a two-flip coin. We took in the good and the bad. It was just what came ahead, you know, the generation before us. And then it's like the generation after us is going to do the same thing. Yeah.

Yeah. that was like I mean nah it's deep because to a certain extent I take place in that right you do we do we do

meaning there was a lot of foul artists that came before me. And when I seen them, they never gave me advice. So I was like, fuck it. Right. Fuck them niggas.

Right. And fuck this industry. It's true. I'm going to stay in my own fucking zone. And then I actually did give advice to young homies when I seen them. When I seen them, I felt like they felt like how I felt. Like, fuck it. This older nigga.

Because everybody. And the older is actually dope the older you get. To be old is a luxury. Hell yeah. It's a luxury. Hell yeah. Come on. That's why I look up to you That's why I look up to you

I need it so much You feel what I'm saying But listen like How you saying that That shit only passed on Generations You don't got no more marijuana Whoa

You want to go back to Smoking blunts I do Yeah yeah I do This is Yeah man You want to call it You want to call it cocaine too

Yeah No no no What Yeah this is blunt You see I ain't smoked a blunt That's old school So long You want to call it cocaine too? No, no, no. What? Yeah, this is blunt. You see, I ain't smoked a blunt in so long. Yeah, my lungs are still in the night. All your own drink, champs, though. But listen, so what I'm saying to say is like,

so like for like the generation you say, like, all right, fuck it. These niggas, I ain't sharing. I ain't showing up. Well, like in the industry, I see firsthand the niggas like, you might have like bad experience with a certain artist, now you don't fuck with nobody. You're a dude, like.

And that's terrible. That's terrible. That is like, damn, now the next nigga who you might really fuck with, he might looking at you like, you a certain way, you might be looking at him like, he a certain way, you feel what I'm saying, just off the fact that you just holding on to that,

and that's going to hinder your career too. Right. It's like, you feel me? It's just like I done seen that shit firsthand. You got to meet Nipsey? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. You know what's so crazy?

Man, bro, I ain't even being funny. I'm glad you asking these questions, this shit like coming up, because one of my first experience when I first met Nipsey I was I used to be going to LA Like I was like 20 Youngest yeah, I got I'm gonna run off the gum like a Bentley or some I'm going to a random ass 7-eleven That's what I'm used to be drinking lean all type of shit I'm going to a random 7-Eleven,

and I'm going to grab like a kid or something. This nigga Nip pull up in a black Maybach, dolo by himself, go to the ATM. I'm looking, I'm like, it's Nip. I'm dolo, he's dolo. Look, I know that 7-Eleven. Nah, we wasn't even in Beverly Hills. We was like, we was by the Waffle House on Gow.

So somewhere, we wasn't in no Beverly Hills, man. He put up. He in the Maybach home, bro. I hollered on. Like, damn. You know, like, this was early on, bro. And you G Herbo at this time? Nah.

Does he know who you are? Yeah, he know who I am. You know her? Okay, okay. I wasn't turned. I'm, like, on some, like. You were turning. Yeah, I'm turning on bro.

And I see bro, you know, like, just fucking around. I'm like, damn. Like, you know what I'm like on some like I'm G You turn in Yeah I'm turning in On bro And I see bro You know like Just fucking around Like damn Like you know what I'm saying That just made me like That's how we locked in Like I ain't gonna lie It was just like

Like Every Like since that day You feel what I'm saying Me and bro Like always Had like a different You know what I'm saying

But That shit That was one of my first like LA experiences Was what I'm saying Like You just moved there at that point? I was just visiting there.

I wasn't even moving there. It was one of my first LA experiences. And I'm seeing him. I was on some fan shit, though. Oh, like super LA shit. Yeah, you feel me? I'm like, damn, I go, you feel what I'm saying?

He pull up in a Maybach, throw a little bad self with him. I'm like, damn, bro, a real street nigga, bro. He throw a little bad self, you feel what I'm saying well you pull up in a Maybach though a little bad so but it might like damn raw real street Nail for you like don't look bad. So I'm selling Goblets and so I sort of got a shit. This made me like super gravity. It's all like damn That was my first time ever meet him though, but it wasn't on no rap shit You feel like me and bro never got no chance to do no music or nothing like that But every time we seen each other it it was Mooshu Love and shit.

It's off that one encounter. Bro. Bro, we got to take a shot for that. Bro. Yeah. Damn, I ain't got no, uh, they got to bring me one. Oh, shit. I'm here.

She said. You want some of this? I think you want some of this. I told you. You want some of this? You want some of this, bro? I'm going to pour some of this in here, bro. Come on, man. Go get some of this? You, I think you want some of this. You want some of this, bro? I'm going to pour some of this in here, bro. Come on, man. Go get some of this.

Toji's going to try to get you to cross over to the devil's side. It's not a chico. It's not a chico. So I look. Recipe's knit, bro. What? Let me, uh. Let me keep it back to you.

Do you realize how much hip-hop love you? You realize how much hip-hop fuck with you? Yeah. You do? Now you do. I'm starting, yeah. Like, I'll finish that. I'm starting to realize for real.

Nah, you that nigga. Appreciate the culture for what it's doing for you, bro. I'm definitely appreciating it. you feel what I'm saying? It's like. It loves you, bro. I started so early and it's like, still young and I'm just trying to, I think I'm so ambitious, I feel like.

And it's like, just me trying to be, trying to go out legendary and be perfect. I feel like I be a little hard on myself, but I do real life, you feel what I'm saying? I ain't gonna lie. And then what made me real life, I'ma be a little hard on myself, but I do real life, you feel what I'm saying? I ain't gonna lie. And then what made me real life, I'm gonna be honest, is getting love from niggas that I really grew up listening to and looking up to,

like niggas like you and niggas like kids or just any nigga that I really grew up fucking with, you feel what I'm saying? Like the Waynes, Drakes, Plutos, everybody that I really admire, you feel what I'm saying? Ever in my life and I really feel genuine love from them, that'd be the really extra push that I really fuck with. You know what I'm saying?

And then it'd be like, when I fuck with my peers and the younger generation too, I'd be always one of those fuck with niggas. That's why even any little artists that come out of Chicago or any other city that I know going crazy, like, I just gam shit. I just be jumping on shit, like, whatever, because I want to do, like, I feel like I admire when Wayne

went on that run, he was just on everybody's shit, no matter who you were. No matter who you was turned, up and coming, whoever, like, he just went on everybody's like i got that same mentality because i looked up to a like wayne you feel me it's just like it's showing love at the end of the day but it's just like it's like it's competition because i'm in competition with myself why i just want to be on everybody's i want to be her you feel me but i'm just showing love to so many artists and i don't need look at it like her you feel me, but I'm just sure a lot of so many artists and only

Look at it like that. You feel right? And you gonna do a record bro got a fine one cuz you don't go crazy tomorrow But man, let me just say we're not in it a lot of. Hey, man, you know, my boy Boris right there rolling in. Hip-hop. Starting the part. It all, you know, saved all of our life. But hip-hop is a business. At what point did you start to say,

damn, this ain't about the law. This is about the business. You know what's so crazy? I'm glad you're asking that. Like now, it just came to a point after me doing this shit for 10, 12 years where it's like, I did so much shit I love, it don't even matter no more. I've done everything you can.

I don't know, you know what I'm saying? And it was really like, where a point where like, you know what I'm saying? You know, certain people say that shit where they feel like it's coming from a place of resentfulness. You know, like. Meaning what? Like, when people say, like, all right, there's no more.

There's never missed about something. No more shit. I ain't doing no more shit out of love. You feel what I'm saying? Right. It feel like sometimes when people do that, it's come from a place of resentfulness where they feel like they don't want to do it because they angry about something. You know what I'm saying? I'm on some shit where it's like I just know everything I put forth.

I know my work, so it's like I don't have to already done it. Even where it got to do with actually charging, I didn't do so much shit out of love. I don't got to charge for nothing. I could go get a favor from anybody in the industry just because my face card good. Because I did so much side of the shit. You got credit. You feel what I'm saying?

Like, no bullshit. And, like, that's worth more than money. You feel me? Way more worth than money. Relationship. Yeah, exactly. And I learned that really, like, on some shit right now. I didn't do so much shit.

Just on some here, here, here, because I'm just trying to show love, but it was actually beneficial to so many people where it changed lives, it did help niggas' careers, or you know what I'm saying? So it's like, shit, it put me in favor, you know? It put me in favor to be able to go get, you know what I'm saying?

Shit done, need to be if i need to you know what i'm saying so it's like and they have it organically i wasn't doing it intensity like all right i'm doing this because i want a favor you know like this happened and it's like now i i could go reach out to my reach go far like whether it's for me or anybody like i could be building an artist and go get you a building an artist or a placement where they probably favor artists just off the strip of that i done done you know what i'm saying where it's gonna be like easy you know and that's not what's never my attention because it's like certain just go hand in hand because your face card go a long way. Like I built that over the course of shit,

10, 12 years of just doing shit off the love, just me being a solid nigga, you know? I'll take a shot after that. Oh, whoa. I'm sorry. You ain't got to take a shot. No, I'll be taking shots. Okay.

You know that. Solid. Oh, you got a tan here, fam. Solid. Solid. It's probably like the Tim shot. You know that. Solid. Oh, you got a tan here, fam. Solid. Solid. Probably like the Tim shot. I mean, how many you take? Like 10, 12?

Who's counting? Who's counting? I'm going to take a pee-pee 20 times. I'll let you go first, then I'll go after. Go, go, bro. We all go together? I feel like you got to take a piss, too. No, I'm booed. You, then I'll go after. Go, go, bro. We all go together? I feel like you got to take a piss, too.

No, I'm booed. You good? All right, cool. Okay. Holy moly, guacamole. This is the first time I've smoked with a blunt. What was you smoking earlier? A backwood with a joint?

With the papers around it. Where they do that? Shit. I've been smoking so long, I just like to, I actually got to hit my chest hard. I like the feeling of it. So what do you smoke on a regular basis? Like what? Like some Moaz?

Yeah, like what kind of butt? What's your favorite? Yeah, any exotics, any perps, some gelato. Gelato? I'm a gelato homebro. You ever smoke sour diesel? I used to smoke sour diesel

like early freshman, yeah, high school type shit. You ever smoke Haze? Yeah, I fuck with the Haze. I used to fuck with Haze like when I first started coming to New York. That was probably like 2000 and 16. I only smoked Haze a few times, though, like, but I fucked with it, though. I wasn't mad at it type shit, like,

but I ain't never. You was mad at haze? Nah, I wasn't. You wasn't, man? Yeah. I fucked with haze. I ain't gonna lie, I fucked with it a little bit. You was in Dykeman? You ever been in Dykeman? I was in Yonkers. Yonkers, okay. Yeah, Jadakiss shit. He got, the haze is there. That's Jadakiss. Yeah, that's where I was at. Yes, JD kiss shit room. Yeah, he got the haze there

That's Judy. Yeah, that's all that JD kiss don't Be established You trying to work with artists but there is there any artists that you want to work with that you haven't worked with yet Yeah with an artist, but is there any artist that you want to work with that you haven't worked with yet? Yeah, um, there's a few I ain't gonna lie with. If I had to really pick like my ultimate, I'd always be seeing this shit. I don't know why, I just like, I really like, I wanna, I wanna like, man this shit sound crazy.

I wanna really get in the studio and really like do a song like, with like Lauryn Hill or something like that. Lauryn Hill? Yeah, or some real like. With the braids or the bald head? I don't know, bro, either, I don't know, bro. Either Lauryn?

Either Lauryn. You gonna take either version or Lauryn? What I'm just saying, like if I had to pick all the way, you know what I'm saying? Lord. My dream feature. My dream feature, though. Okay, so God

comes down from heaven. Not aliens. Okay, aliens come down from heaven. And aliens say, I need you to make

one record for me. I need you to pick who's going to be the producer and who's going to do the hook. Who's going to be the producer and who's going to do the hook? Yeah. Aliens and God together. I don't know why they're together. They're together and they say, G Herbo, you got to save planet Earth. Oh, bro.

One record. One. One producer. Bro, I don't want to do. And anybody on the hook. One producer. Dead or alive. They coming outside.

Yeah, Elvis Presley, nigga. Elvis Presley could be here. I mean, one producer, anybody on be here. I mean, I want producer. Michael Jackson. One producer dead or alive. You get Mike.

Bro, I got to go. Prince. Prince could be there. I got to go. I got to go. Prince on the hook. Prince on the hook? And I'm going yay on the beat.

Oh, bro. I got to take a piss. I'm coming to on the beat. Oh, bro. I got to take a piss. You killed that. You win. Keep going. I'll be back. I'm coming true like that. That was hard. Prince, you said?

Prince, yay on the beat? I want that record. That was too hard. I don't know what the fuck y'all were talking about, but I'm going to bring it back to Chicago. So you got connected with Common through No I.D., right? Yeah. So where were you guys, like, what was the connection between old Chicago hip hop and new Chicago hip hop? I think it was like.

Like, what was a respect level as well often it's a thing I really think it was the transition of like Chicago hip-hop always was awesome like in a way it was like okay can I say something real quick before you keep going I as well and I want to rub I'm interrupting actually but I just want to interrupt i'm i'm interrupting actually but i just want to say like i was reading on you right and people were saying like drill had a perception of non-lyrics but you actually brought lyrics like you was actually a person that was spitting. And I feel like you was bringing the, what was happening already with Common and Kanye

and these guys, like you was bringing that level of lyricism to your music. Yeah, so that's what I was gonna say. I think in Chicago, like the transition, they were like, you know, niggas like Common, Ye, Twista, all them, they really rap for real, is what I'm saying. In Chicago, when the drill scene and that whole era came about, it wasn't really like ono lyricism type shit. It was semi up tempo turnt music. That's why they felt like drill was a whole another genre. Right, right.

But it wasn't. It was just like a term or like an expression, basically. Right, right. Drill was an expression and the music that we created

was just a beat. Exactly. A certain type of beat. That's it. Exactly, but exactly. So it's like what I'm saying is like

what Chicago music was before then was like rap. You know know I'm saying shit like that from the comments the twisters and yeas and all this shit you know I'm saying like you feel I'm saying so like Lupe you feel me bump right right you know I'm saying like when that music like, transcended into some whole other shit, I never really stood in that lane.

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hip-hop. I mean, not genres. I'm just saying all type of artists. You just loved hip-hop. Yeah, I i'm just saying all type of artists you just love to hit it yeah i love it that's the best way to say it probably so yeah i was saying like when i came out i never really like labeled myself as a drill artist i always like was on some like i'm just a rapper you feel i'm saying like i can rap on some shit. Exactly. I was 15 years old, 16 years old when that shit came out, but I was one of the only people that actually was rapping on old, simple beats and rapping over shit that Kiss made or rapped over or Meek was rapping. I was really on some shit. My first two, three, four freestyles I put out was over Meek beats.

This was 2010, 2011 and shit like that. Big up Meek meat beats. You feel I'm saying this was 2010 2011 and shit I'm saying like yeah So it was like I was always on some shit Well, I was trying to rap anyway, like I was never trying to put myself in that box of drill rap You know I'm saying so it's like I think That's why I was able to like connect with the commas and shit like that Like how you saying like it reached out and like, not like to go off subject all the way,

my uncle who passed away, his name was K-Tone. He already, he already knew them. Like he already like knew Common and Ye and the legendary Traxta. They had, there was a group called Trevor and Traxt. So in Chicago, my uncle was like a legendary producer in a way, and that was my blood uncle, you feel what I'm saying? So it was like, I'm in the studio around him and already getting that foundation with twisting them around,

do or die, all these crucial conflict, all of them, my uncle was already well respected in the industry in Chicago when it came to that type of stuff. Like Mickey Hostet, who was my first manager, he knew my uncle like you know I'm saying so I already like here like a love for music when it came to just looking up to him and wanted to be like him You know I'm saying so like when they like I feel like when my whole Like when me and baby when we came out, I don't know maybe it's just like over east or just the music We listen to we think we was always on some rap shit like the whole we never steered away from hip-hop you feel i'm saying we never tried to like

tear away from bars like lyricism 12 16 32 bars rap rap you feel i'm saying like lyricism we never like we never shied away from that like that's what I'm trying to say. That's always what I was on from the moment I choose to be a rapper. Right. Yeah. I know we touched on it earlier, right? But I went and looked at my Twitter when I went to the bathroom.

And it's still, people think that drill music started in London. Yeah, I don't know why. Yeah, that's crazy. Why do you think that? I think because, I don't know, I feel like overseas, like in London, they had such a big wave with just like how they was able to translate the drill shit. How's your following in London?

Let's just start with there. Oh, I ain't really. I would imagine you have the biggest following. I ain't toured or did nothing in London yet, but I want to go out. Have you gone overseas? No, no, I ain't got no overseas. Oh, bro, I guarantee you got a big overseas audience, bro.

You got to go overseas, man. No, I ain't got no overseas. Nah, you got to get out nine got no overseas no get the fuck out of here you got a big audience outside of here bro yeah yeah I never did that as much as they appreciate I was like two weeks with juice world and shit we had he was on tour with Nicki Minaj I had did Tim Westwood and shit. That was like two, three years. That's UK.

That's London. So you went to London. That was like three, four years ago though. I ain't been there since. I ain't done no shows. Just UK.

Just London. Now you need to go back. Tim Westwood. That's big. That's big. Tim Westwood is big. Yeah. I play the best hood.

OT with Tim Westwood. He should be on Section 8. Section is good. Oh yeah, with Tim Westwood He should be on section 8 Section is good Oh yeah with Tim Westwood Yeah yeah That's a legend Tim Westwood's a legend bro

So what's your favorite place to perform If I had to choose Of course it would be Chicago To exclude Chicago, if I had to say my all-time favorite place to perform would be New York.

New York? Yeah. Nah, for sure. New York fucked with me. Like, I had some of my best shows in my career in New York. Like, one time,

this is how I knew New York loved me. Look, this is like 2000 and man, this had to be 2016, 2017. I did a show with Shoutout Johnny Shipes. Shoutout Johnny Shipes, bro. It was, I think it was one of those Smokers Club shows. But I don't know what a venue was. It was like 4,000, 5,000 fans.

I had lost my voice. I couldn't even speak and i'm bad they sung the whole for like 30 minutes straight god damn this was the beginning of my career like i've never seen nothing like it and it's like that that support just transcended yeah i turned this out through my career yeah that that that shotown energy us up in new york for sure well i never felt no in new york for sure i ain't gonna lie i never felt no love like it like even like i ain't gonna lie me i swear to god we was just talking about this like the other day uh me my girl my brother everybody was just saying um uh the ptsd

tour like like that show it was my very first show. Like that was, I did the show the day the album dropped. So the fans didn't even know the music. It was just like the energy of them seeing me. It's just like everything, like that shit was one of my hardest shows that I did. You feel what I'm saying? Like we was just talking about that shit like two days ago. What was the worst place you ever performed at? Let's keep it real.

Let's throw them under the bus. We don't mind. Worst place? Fuck. Hey, Louis mind. Worst place? Fuck. Hey, Louisville. New Mexico. Probably like eight, ten fans or some shit.

Those ten fans love you, bro. I know they do. What happened? I think it was like some shit where like it was the promoter fucked up on some. He didn't do the promotion shit right or like the club.

He thought you was supposed to post. Yeah. No, we did. I don't know. It was some shit like. I'm just saying that was like my worst show ever. That shit was like years and years ago. What I'm just saying was some shit where like I literally performed in front of like eight people.

What I gave them. But you performed. You performed. I'm proud for like I did really perform. That's dope. I had to. That's dope. I performed in front of eight people in Dubai.

Literally. In Dubai? I'll never forget that shit though. It was in New Mexico. Performing in front with like eight people. I performed with eight people. It was their family, though. In Dubai?

It was fantastic. That was fantastic in Dubai? I can't tell you what they paid me. They paid you a fantastic amount of money? Yeah. I don't even think they even made eye contact with me. It was just like, fuck it. What songs did you perform?

Hey, man, leave it alone. Yo, man, I'm going to be honest with you, man. Every time I see you, you're a real one, happy. You're repping, man. And I really wanted to give you your flowers, man.

Literally, man, because and figuratively because you're actually a legend out here, man. You actually did your job. We're proud of you. Stakesmen like me, like Fat Joe,

and so on and so on. We're proud of you, man. And we want you to continue to do your motherfucking thing. And continue to be great. And continue to be family oriented. Yeah. Continue to stay

in that gray zone that you said. In that gray zone, you know that. Listen, the energy got your back. So when I was researching you, this is a shot. Okay. Fuck it. I don't know how this popped up. That's your only a shot. Okay. Fuck it. I don't know how this popped up.

No. That's your only shot, bro. Nobody likes it. I took another one. No, we don't like it. I want you to know hip-hop loves you, man. Because it actually hurt my heart to hear you say that. And you was like, you know, I love hip-hop, but hip-hop don't love me back.

And it's true because what you said is accurate. Hip hop would never love us back the way we love hip hop. Yeah. But hip hop loves us.

Bro, that's why I'm going to grab my flowers, man. I'm broke. God damn. You know that. God damn. You know that.

Every time you rock a beautiful watch like that, and you're iced out, Jay. That's hip-hop, man. You know that. That's hip-hop. That's hip-hop. That shit got nothing to do with anything else. So we got to salute hip-hop, because hip-hop salutes you.

And I really want you to know that, man. Like, I've been doing this since 97. I got everybody's number. And I'm relationship-based. So I call people. I just ask. Everyone I call had nothing but, I said it earlier, but I want to say it again. I want you to read, iterate what I'm trying to tell you. People are not only got love for you, they saying that they got love for you.

And they rooting for you. So I don't know If those pom-poms Are out In public Yeah Or it's in private But the fact that They rooting for you

Period Oh bro Yeah Means a fucking lot Trust me I call People be like I call

I'm like yo You know I'm interviewing Sisters They be like Who? Oh bro Everybody's like What do you need? Alright What's up Call you know, I'm interviewing sister there. Ah, oh who Everybody's like what do you need? All right, what's up? So this is tight. No, I actually don't need shit. Oh It already described your character people described the character of you without you even being

That's that's dope, bro. Dope, bro. Appreciate it, man. You want to say what I just said? Nah, yeah, yeah. This industry's a piece of shit. Nah. And I love it.

Yeah, nah, this shit feel good, though. It's a piece of shit, but I love it. I love it. We don't love it, but we love it. I love it.

You gotta love it. You gotta love it. You gotta love it. You gotta love something. You gotta love it. You gotta love it. Everybody take love it. You gotta love something. You gotta love it. You gotta love it. Everybody take a picture. Okay, I'm gonna end it like this.

There's a lesson in the 5% degrees. It says, love hell or right. Which means sometimes you gotta love hell in order to come out right. Which means sometimes you can't even go to heaven. Unless you go to hell first. Unless you go to hell first. Unless you been to hell first. I like it. Bro.

Welcome to heaven. G Herbo got them new teeth, man. New teeth? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You looking good out there. Make some noise, man. All right. You got to address it.

You got to address the new teeth? Yeah, because you took that good picture. Hold on, hold on. You had to address the new team? Yes, because you took that good picture. Hold on, let me show the picture. That's weird. Let me show the picture. It's like, yeah, that shit been going viral, bro. Yeah. I took a picture.

That's like a big thing. I ain't going to lie. No, I ain't going to say I guess. I said I ain't never getting my teeth done, bro. I said I ain't never getting my teeth done, bro. Yeah, you outside. Yeah, this shit do look, this shit do look crazy.

It's fire. Shit hard. You outside, you changed. I got all teeth done, like all 24, man. I got all that shit did. Nice. I said I'll never get my teeth done, man.

And when they got my shit done. Why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't I, man? Why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't I, man? Why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't I go and turn up, man? That's what getting money feel like. Elevation, you know what I'm saying? That's what getting money feel like.

That's what getting money feel like, man. God damn it. Yeah, man. Make them know I'm getting money, nigga. Get that motherfucking money. Take another shot. I'm sorry. Where she go?

Let's take it. I'm sorry. You want another shot? Come on, let's do it. And a drink?. Take another shot. I'm sorry. Where you going? Let's take another shot. I'm sorry. You want another shot? Come on, let's do it. And a drink? Or just another shot? Another shot, bro. I'm not going to lie to you, bro.

I'm happy you came here today. I'm happy you showed up. I'm happy you arrived. I did lose the bet. I did tell you that, right? Yeah, yeah. I felt like you was going to be on time. I ain't going to lie.

I posted. I've been on time, bro. I posted. I've been on time. But then they told me they blamed your girl. I was like, that's a good excuse. I ain't going to lie. I posted, been on time, bro. I posted, been on time. But then they told me they blame your girl. I was like, that's a good excuse. I'm taking my shot, Sandman. I blame my girl.

Yeah, bro. They said they blame your girl. I'm sorry, man. Chi Chi, that's you? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's your team. They said they blame your girl. I say it to my wife all the time.

I threw her under the bus, and then they threw me under the bus by saying that. They were supposed to say that. Let's take a shot. Hey, man. Yo. G Herbo. Let me just tell you something. Want to throw asses?

Nah, I ain't doing that. You a legend. Nah, take that shot, bro. What are you doing? Oh, this is it? Yeah. All right. You're a legend. Thank you for coming through, Dream Champs.

Thank you for hanging out with your family, bringing your family. That's a beautiful thing. And we love you. Continue to go. Anytime you want to promote anything, even if you want to promote your little toenail, we don't mind. We don't mind. Come over here. We're going to promote that little nigga. Fuck it.

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