Drink Champs - Episode 397 w/ Benzino
Episode Date: February 16, 2024N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs in this episode the champs chop it up with the one and only, Benzino! Drink Champs alumni, Benzino is back to share more stories! Benzino talks about foundin...g the iconic The Source Magazine, The Source Awards and much more! Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss! Make some noise for Benzino!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 🎉🎉🎉 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more: 🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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owner.
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we talking about the one, only,
motherfucking Boston's own Ben Zeno!
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So I heard off the top, they said Zeno's coming to drink. Yeah. Yeah, but I shot I
Wanted to remind you
Chopper shot. I want to remind you off-top. Do you remember that time? He was hanging out and you No need to recreate that. And he left in the wheelchair.
But where did he get the wheelchair from?
No, I forget.
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But how you, let me get my drink, man. How you doing, man?
How's, you can drink.
I got mine coming.
Okay, cool.
You're supposed to go shot for shot.
No, no, not shot for shot.
We enjoy it.
We got a lot of things to talk about.
We're different drink channels.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But the wheelchair thing wasn't my fault.
Right.
Yeah, you couldn't walk.
It's your legs' fault.
It was the Tiger Ball.
Yeah.
Oh, that's right.
I had the Tiger Ball.
I never had that shit.
No, no, no.
I didn't even know what that was.
I just kept drinking that shit.
We had the Tiger Ball now.
We just continued in that drink channel.
That's good.
That shit is not.
No, no, no.
That shit's it.
That's the thing about you is like it's either you don't drink or you do drink and you go
all the way.
So what's been going on?
Man, man.
I know.
First of all, I appreciate y'all.
Come on, God damn it.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
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Y'all are the motherfucking number one podcast.
Come on.
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You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Everybody else is way the fuck behind.
Right, right, right.
I want to say that first. Yes, yes, yes. You know what I'm saying? And you got pod everybody else is way the fuck behind. You know what I'm saying? I want to say that first.
Yes, yes, yes.
You know what I'm saying?
And you got podcasters going at you, too.
But hold on.
We're going to get to that later.
You're killing Joe Buck.
Yeah, we're going to get to that.
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Yeah, we're going to get to that.
You're killing Joe Buck.
Yeah.
Yeah, let's establish that.
You're killing Joe Buck.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
Hold on.
We're going to get to that.
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Hold on, hold on.
Hold on, hold on.
Let me ask you, let me ask you, but other than the controversy, what's going on, like, with you?
Everything's good, you know what I'm saying?
You know, I'm in Atlanta.
In Atlanta, that's nice.
Me and my girl just had our third year anniversary.
Oh, really?
My beautiful baby.
Congratulations. Oh, I'm not dead in three years. You know what I'm saying? Three years.
You know what I'm saying?
Three years.
Okay.
You know, that's-
Oh, one, two, three.
Oh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, okay.
You know, and man, everything's good, man.
Just being a father, of course, you know all my kids.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
And working on a couple of things.
Working on the Source Awards documentary.
And working hard on that
for like seven months, eight months now.
So let me ask you.
That's a great segue for me.
So you specifically said
Source Awards documentary.
Yeah.
Not just the Source.
Source Awards.
It's the awards.
It really focuses around the 95
and a little bit of the 94,
just because that 95 one was when,
you know, like,
it kind of changed hip hop.
Like, that's when Suge said what he said.
The outcast moment, right?
Yeah, that's the outcast moment.
Suge.
Suge, but when you look at it
in the significance of that night,
it really was the first time
that a lot of artists seen each other.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Because New York's always been running shit.
The West Coast just started coming up,
and now it's like the South got something to say.
You know what I'm saying?
So it really was that night.
It's kind of like when hip hop went national.
You know, when it just wasn't New York anymore.
And there's like a lot of, within the big story,
there's a lot of little stories, little different joints. Like I didn't know that, you know, like Wu-Tang had issues with
Biggie that night until later on, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, different things. The
guys from Chicago, you know what I'm saying? I think Ice Cube had issues with Bone Thugs that
night. I mean, it was all kind of little different issues. Of course, it was the bad boy,
and, you know, Pac was locked up.
You know what I'm saying?
But it was the bad boy, death row,
East Coast, West Coast thing just ruined.
So that night was real significant.
I seen you say that one time
that you thought that Outkast was almost speaking to you
when he said the South got something to say.
Yeah, because, you know, so... That's a very bold statement. No, because, say. Yeah, because that, you know, so...
That's a very bold
statement. No, because, you know, I want to, you know,
and, you know, I've never spoken
to Andre, I've never spoken to
Big Boy, and especially since I'm in Atlanta.
Yeah. I'm dating
an Atlanta woman, so I'm kind of, I've been down
there almost like 10 years, loving hip-hop
Atlanta, so I'm really part of the
Atlanta situation down
there um so I felt like it was just right to say this because at the time it was kind of eating me
up like damn you know when all those years I felt like I was responsible but I kind of kept it to
myself because nobody else knew and it was the thing where when when when the five mics when
they was because they got five mics no, they got four and a half.
Oh, yeah, they got four and a half.
Later on, they got the five.
Yeah, but the first one...
Oh, I didn't know that.
The first one, it was a thing where...
Oh, okay, yeah.
They was coming at you.
They was talking about you.
Coming at the source, not specifically you, but yourself.
Well, it was my fault.
Right.
Because they wanted...
There was talk of giving them five,
and I kind of put myself in the equation i never
do that when it comes to the mics and i think i told y'all that before like i didn't you get
yourself i told you that because you was mad at me before you even knew me
he didn't like me before he met because he thought i was responsible for the mic shit
he thought i was responsible for him not winning the award for the mic shit i'm like bro i don't
have nothing to do with that yet. I remember we was arguing about something
totally different.
I was like,
but you got to be
on the mic,
and Zeno was like,
what are you talking about,
Nari?
I said, yeah,
because I don't like,
honestly,
like 192 issues,
that means that there
was 192 mic ratings.
And I think the Eminem one,
the Outkast one,
and I think there was one
with Little Brother and Jeezy.
Those are the only three
that I stuck my neck. My neck. Specifically on the Outkastzy. Those are the only three that I stuck my neck.
My neck.
Specifically on the Outkast one.
How did you insert yourself?
I stuck my neck in.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, I got a neck.
You know what I'm saying?
Motherfucker, right?
And I felt bad about it because I think, like,
I didn't hear their music at the time.
And I think I was just adamant on, nah, why should they get five mics?
Because this ain't hip hop.
Wow.
And I fucked up.
That's crazy.
I fucked up.
And I made a mistake.
And I think the editors at the time, I think they somehow, they got to Andre.
I think they told him that I had something to do with that
Somehow someway I think they knew it now now I could be wrong, right? I could just be snitching on myself
But but I just wanted to get that out there now, you know, and I want to apologize to hip-hop answer them
Right. I haven't seen him personally to do it, but I'm sure they've heard you know
I'm saying right now. I want to do it again because, you know, I didn't hear it.
Did you hear it?
Outkast,
did you hear Outkast back then?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah,
but I'm in Miami,
so to me...
What about you?
No, actually,
you're offending that question.
What?
To me, Outkast was amazing.
So the first album,
you felt should have...
Was that Southern Player
listed kind of like a music?
Yeah, if you could have
gave it six likes,
I would have gave it six.
I ain't going to lie,
yeah, I like it.
So y'all thought
every single song
on that album was like... That album as a complete project was amazing would have gave it six. I ain't going to lie. So y'all thought every single song on that album was like...
That album as a complete project was amazing to me.
I ain't going to lie.
Because the Ghetto Boys had to come out before that, right?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
All right, so I believe Ghetto Boys is my first South album,
and I believe Southern Paleolystic,
kind of like music, was my second one.
Like the I bought.
I was listening to the album, but it wasn't the I bought.
But you probably heard 2 Live Crew, is before around the same time as getting
back i don't think i don't think i have bought a two live crew at that time you know what i'm
saying no no all love all love but okay boom bouncing around we talked about the sauce awards
i always heard that that was like more of your thing, the Sauce Awards? You know,
the very first Sauce Awards
was on Yohan TV Raps.
People didn't know.
They was just giving out,
like reading
and kind of giving it out over.
It wasn't like an award show.
It wasn't an award show.
Right.
Okay.
I think that might have been
in 91, 92.
94 was the first awards.
Now,
the reason that we did
an award show
was because
of the Grammys.
Right. Of how the Grammys was disrespecting hip-hop.
And we felt like, yo, like, they're not even, like, you know, I mean, there's, like, two categories.
Like, there's best hip-hop and best rap.
No, best hip-hop and best rap.
And I'm like, what the fuck does that mean?
Like, what is best hip-hop and then what's best rap?
Like, I used to get confused.
And then as the years went, it was like, yeah, they're really not respecting hip-hop.
So I was just like, we need to do our own award show.
It started like that.
All right.
Like, you know, we could do the same thing.
I mean, Soul Train been doing it for years, so we could take that blueprint of just, you know,
you get celebrities to come and give out the awards, you have performances,
and you pick who
wins the awards and it's usually not rocket scientists who was in in their respective
categories who was the dopest right i felt like people from the street us the struggle hip-hop
at the time street i felt like there was no way that a national platform and white folks was giving
us a chance to really shine and i just felt like it was time and you know the first one
Bernie Mac hosted rest in peace to Bernie Mac. We had a lot of problems. The lights was going off
He was in Madison Square Garden. It you know, it was crazy, but you had the first one in the garden
Yeah, it was it was the arm. It was it up with yes. Yes. It was still the garden. It was in the garden
Yeah, the first two were in the garden Wow at the Paramount Theatre
And I'm gonna throw this on you. You could say garden. Yeah. The first two were in the garden. Wow. At the Paramount Theater. And I'm going to throw this on you.
You can say yay or nay.
Can I get a blunt?
Oh, yeah, go on.
Yeah, you can say yay or nay.
I love y'all, man.
Are you telling me right now?
You know why I fuck with you before you say that?
Because you fuck with the same niggas.
It's the same crew.
How dope is that?
Hold on.
How dope is that?
It's the same niggas, man.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Are you saying to me right now
that you invented the hip-hop awards show?
Yes.
Hands down.
No equivocation.
Hands down.
No equivocation.
I don't see it.
Benzino invented the hip-hop awards.
Yes.
Period.
Periodic.
Let's make some noise for that, goddammit.
Yeah. Now, that being said, the hip-hop awards shows you see now, Period. Period. Let's make some noise for that goddammit.
Period.
Now, that being said, the Hip Hop Awards shows you see now, particularly BET, I see you had
a lot of things to say about it when BET Awards came on, you tweeted a couple of things.
What do you think about nowadays Hip Hop Awards?
It's just watered down and like with the culture because the culture
is so different
you know what I'm saying
um
Hip Hop is all over
the place right now.
You know you have
you have a
you have a group
of older people
like us.
You ain't take a sip
of your drink yet.
Oh let's go.
Go ahead.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
It's a long game.
Come on, Dave.
Come on, Dave.
Come on, Dave.
We come here to talk business.
We come here to keep it all the way at 100.
Okay, okay.
But yeah, you say hip-hop is watered down.
You say no, war chill is watered down.
I'm just saying hip-hop's all over the place.
It's like you have us, the older cats, the older generation.
You have the middle generation, the Gen Zs.
And nowadays, what I would do, you would have to make sure that everybody gets recognized in their prospective generations.
And I don't think that BET is recognizing that.
I think BET just want to take whoever's high.
See, the internet is hip-hop used to be the leader,
and everything followed it, everything.
Right now, the internet's the leader,
and hip-hop's following the internet,
and that's the first time it's happened.
So now, what's going on is there's more personalities
that's popping than there are actual dope MCs
and dope artists.
And it's not to take anything away from anyone, but that's what these award there are actual dope MCs and dope artists. And it's not to take anything
away from anyone, but that's what these
award shows are catering to.
They're catering to the personalities of
the internet rather than the art.
And I think that
we always have to preserve
the art. And I think that's what The Source did.
No matter what, we always,
no matter how hood it was. See,
a lot of people don't understand understand the artist isn't the issue.
It's all their niggas that you,
you know,
the Source Awards was like,
yeah, okay,
the artists come,
but they come in with 13,
14,
20,
30 niggas.
Half of them been locked up.
Half of them on cases.
So we have to be able
to deal with that.
And I think
being who I was,
I think that was the element
that was able to deal
with that type of situation because not everybody can deal with guys from the street and their guys no matter what event it is.
You know what I'm saying?
And that's the hard thing.
You know what I mean?
But we kept everything in control.
Shout out to Mr. Farrakhan because we always had the FOI as security.
Which is dope.
Which is dope.
You know what I'm saying?
Which is dope, yeah.
Always. I'm going to bounce around dope, yeah, yeah. Always.
I'm going to bounce around a little bit, right?
Elliot Wilson said something the other day
that I saw on the internet.
Elliot Wilson said-
That's my son.
Yeah, yeah.
Come on, man.
That's my son.
That's my son.
Like, no, no, no.
Let's make no mistake about it.
That's my son.
Like, Elliot started with us, learned the ropes,
then went to XXL.
That's my
That's one of my sons
Right
Yeah
He said something the other day
I thought it was very very interesting
He said until now
Journalists were
Were like the cornballs
They were like the people
Who went to school
And
Journalists was always the enemy
People of media
Was always the enemy
Until now
Where people were making it cool
I thought that was very interesting
I thought it was It was accurate I think that was accurate Do you think that was accurate? That was always the problem until now where people were making it cool. I thought that was very interesting. I thought it was accurate.
I think that was accurate.
Do you think that was accurate?
That was always the problem
with Benzino and Dave's relationship
and all these guys
from Ivy League
and good colleges.
Okay, Sam,
what you mean by that?
Because I'm a street nigga.
Right.
They college niggas.
At that time,
that was the,
as far as black,
especially black men,
that was the divide. You had Especially black men That was the divide
You had college niggas
The Spike Lee movies
Then you had the street niggas
The men's societies
And the boys in the hoods
And that was the split
Even though
It could have been your brother
In the household
And you was street
Just like boys in the hood
Ice Cube was street
Yeah
Ricky
Ricky was college
Right
You know what I'm saying
That was the split in hip hop You had your conscious You had. You know what I'm saying? That was the split in hip hop.
You had your conscious.
You had all, you know what I'm saying?
Well, Doughboy.
That's what I call him, Ice Cube in the movie.
Doughboy.
Yeah, Doughboy.
Doughboy.
Okay, cool.
So you had your conscious, and you had your conscious and kind of political hip hop at
the time, and then you had your gangster shit.
And that was like, now, not saying that you couldn't be from college and
love the gangstership because that's what was going on and vice versa art is art right but
the problem is that the gangstership people are out there really living that it's a real life
so it's not just music and that's where things got. Because, you know, these college kids didn't.
Like the early source journalists, like they hated me.
They didn't like me.
But the early guys up there, they all walked out on Dave once he put a story about me in 94.
The whole staff walked out and said, Dave, you got to go.
Either you go or we're going.
And Dave fired everybody, bought out the partners at the time and made me 50% partner because he put a story
about us in the magazine.
Oh, when you say us, it's RSO or Mabe Miss?
RSO, Almighty RSO.
He just didn't like us, they just didn't like us.
It just was a split, it just was.
The only thing colleges, I remember going to colleges
to the parties and niggas always wanted to fuck
with the college chicks but it was always a problem with the nigg and you know, niggas always wanted to fuck with the college chicks, but it was always a problem
with the niggas because, you know,
the college niggas is like, yo, those are our chicks.
They're up here with us.
So we was always beefing, and it was always a divide.
Right.
So what do you think made that happen?
Just being the indifferences?
No, that's just how America was at the time.
You have street niggas and you got college niggas.
Then you got niggas who went to the army.
Right.
So them niggas right there are really in the middle
because they're really street niggas too,
and they just went to the army to go get a check.
But they're armed forces, college, or streets.
Which one are you?
Which nigga are you?
Right.
Okay, so boom.
Let's take it from what you just said.
You said Dave Mays, after you wrote an article, they walked out on him.
Did Dave, it was his decision to say, I want to give you 50% on the force?
Yeah, he just came out of nowhere with it.
Because it was getting, one of the guys and Dave had like a physical altercation.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
At the office?
Yeah, I was living in Boston, so we had to come up there.
I got my guys, we came up there. The office is in New York? Yeah, I was living in Boston, so we had to come up there. I got my guys. We came up there.
The office is in New York?
Yeah.
Ron Horton, which was our, like he was the security at the time at the front.
Okay.
He had locked the office down.
Dave literally like fired everybody.
It was like 30, 40.
But they had, they wrote this 20-page letter of like disrespecting me, how much I was a monster, I was bad,
and they sent it to every label,
every radio station,
these guys, you know what I'm saying?
I mean, they really try to blacklist us
just because of the relationship I had with Dave.
Now, mind you, when Dave gave me 50% of the magazine,
it wasn't no money.
I was making more money in the streets
than the source had at the time.
It was just 50% of the magazine.
And with me, I'm like, I didn't know what the fuck that was worth. I'm like, ah, great. You know what I'm saying? money in the streets than the source at the time it just it was just 50 of the magazine and with
me i'm like i didn't know what the fuck that was worth i'm like oh great you know i'm your man
regardless great the magazine is not lit at this time or not that not in 94 i would i didn't make
no money from the magazine 94 i was lit i thought the magazine was like 92 nah nah he wasn't making
money like that because when the naz and wu-t come out. I'm saying the magazine was cool. It was doing good, but it wasn't profiting like that.
It looked good.
It could be good.
Advertising still, remember, big companies at that time didn't even want to fuck with hip-hop.
So it wasn't really advertising.
It wasn't too much advertising.
It could have been breaking even as a company.
Shit had to evolve for McDonald's and Cadillac and Downey Softener before they came.
That was years later.
But at the time, it was like, yo, I'm basically protecting him at the time.
He was by himself.
We had already been friends.
And it's not just friends with me.
It's friends with my whole crew and the niggas in Boston.
So it's like, yeah, I'll be fucking 50%.
But was there anything that, for all of those people to say all that and walk out,
you looking back now,
was there anything that they said that was maybe,
you were like, okay, maybe.
I'll give them that.
When shit got thick and they didn't want it there,
I was like, man, I called up there one time.
There's a tape where I called up there.
I was like, man, if y'all don't put this story
in about the RSL,
I'm going to come up there and put all you niggas in body bags.
They taped it, sent it to the news. I'm going to come up there and put all you niggas in body bags. They taped it,
sent it to the news.
Okay, there it is right there, sir.
I didn't mean it.
I didn't mean it.
I didn't mean it like that.
How would they know that?
I was bad as fuck.
And you was active.
And you was active.
My thing is this.
Like, we've been signed
to Tommy Boy.
We were signed
to Flavor Unit.
Eazy-E, God rest Eazy-E,
we had contracts on the table before he died.
I talked to Eazy two days before he died in the hospital.
Yeah.
He was going to be the last group.
I met with him twice in New York.
Wow.
So you guys and Bone Thugs.
Bone Thugs was signed by Tamika and Yellow Man,
Yellow Boy from NWA,
and Eazy was signed in us.
We met with him at the source office,
and then we met with him at the St. Regis.
And the crazy thing was, when I met with him
at the source office, now, I'm Eazy
E'd out. Big influence was the whole
West Coast gang. And where's the source
office at at the time? Is it Broadway?
We're Broadway, Houston.
It's not ballin'.
Not yet? I mean, I wasn't getting
no money unless Dave was hiding it.
I wasn't, you know what I'm saying?
Shit.
I was still with Schnapps doing my one-two.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I was selling, like, everything known to man.
Heroin, crack, drugs, keys.
Remember Eazy-E and then?
And then, okay, so we met with Eazy the first time.
You said two days before he died?
Yeah, two Samoan bodyguards
at the source
the two guys
and then he had this other dude
right
the other dude
had this ponytail
like um
Steven Seagal right
yeah
I'm like
I can see it
he's like this is Mike Klein
I'm like
the nigga had like
I could tell
he had something
hanging
he had a
he had a leather trench coat
the short one
wow with a fucking ponytail
looking like Steven's. I said, this
nigga, he had
a hat because the shit was just bulging out like a motherfucker.
He's just sitting there and the shit's just bulging. I'm like,
okay. When I watched the movie,
I found out that that was
the Jewish Defense League nigga
that Jerry Heller gave easy
when Suge was pressing him.
It all makes sense. I didn't know it at the time.
They're nothing to play with either.
The whole time we're talking,
he's just looking around. The first time we're up
at the office, I'm saying to myself, you ain't got to look around
like that. We cool in the office.
No one's going to bar me easy in the office.
But he's just looking the whole time
around like Secret Service.
We met the second time at St. Regis.
And he was like, boom. New York, St. Regis at St. Regis. And he was like, boom.
New York, St. Regis?
St. Regis.
Okay.
And we're sitting,
Tom, Mike Klein's there
with EZ this time,
just me and Dave.
Ponytail still?
Ponytail, yeah.
Okay, let's go.
And he's still looking
around at St. Regis.
I'm like,
surely ain't nothing
happening at St. Regis.
You know what I'm saying?
But he was on point.
You know what I'm saying?
So he was going to sign us, right? Now, this ain't no joke, man. Like, he was coughing point. You know what I'm saying? So he was going to sign us, right?
Now, this ain't no joke, man.
He was coughing like a motherfucker.
I remember that.
This was so crazy because it wasn't.
That shit's just regular shit when you see him.
Because he had on one of them softball jackets with the easy, even the blue ones.
Remember the ones?
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
That was his shit with the locs on, the hat.
I'm like, and again, I'm starstruck,
all of us,
because he was a god to us.
Yeah, easy, man.
To Boston,
the gangster rap scene,
he was a god to us.
Right.
And he was about to be on...
He was a god to everyone.
He was about to be on
Ruthless Records
our first album.
I couldn't,
it was just...
Then he went to the,
he ended up going to the hospital,
St. Regis.
I talked to him on the phone,
he was like,
nah, everything good.
Tom Wally,
who represents the Tupac estate now, was our lawyer. So it was going to be $175,000 our first
deal. This is like 93, 92, 93. Whenever he went in the hospital. So he went in the hospital.
So a couple of days going by, then I talked to him and he's like, look, I got, I said,
we made this new song. So we didn't have't have email we sent that to him a cassette because he said he had a box in the house we sent it to him he said he got
it he loved it it was called there'll be some and then the the third time i talked to me you could
hear in his voice and he said he had bronchitis and i was like okay i'm saying everything gonna
be said as soon as we get out everything's cool they went back and forth the lawyers what all i
gotta do is get out sign it And y'all So we like
Oh we celebrating man
We like
So then I get a call
One time from Dave man
And Dave's like
Easy die to AIDS
And I said
Fucking AIDS
Like I couldn't even
Process that shit
Like
Didn't he make a
A press conference
Before that though
Man
Listen
This is what I do
This is what I do though
There's a lawyer named Ron Sweeney, right?
This is what I do know.
I don't know who Ron Sweeney is, right?
But there's a lawyer named Ron Sweeney
who was with Tamika at the time, right?
And I don't know if they was messing around,
but, you know, Eazy signed over everything.
Yeah, that's what it was.
He didn't do a press conference.
He signed Eazy.
He signed over everything to Ron Sweeney
and Tamika on his fucking deathbed.
They didn't honor our contract, signed bones, and we was left in the fucking.
And I'm like, he signed it on his deathbed.
Now, that's his wife, so I don't have any.
But what the fuck was Ron Sweeney doing?
You know Ron Sweeney?
So he's a lawyer for Murder, Ink, or whatever.
But it was just, shit didn't look right.
I was pissed as a motherfucker.
I was mad as a motherfucker. I was fucked up, Inc. or whatever, but it was just, shit didn't look right. I was pissed as a motherfucker. I was mad as a motherfucker.
I was fucked up, man.
I remember just staying in the house
for three days
and just not even fucking around
and not even want to talk to nobody
because it just,
it was fucked up.
That was a fucked up moment for me,
for real.
Damn.
Damn.
But,
rest in peace to the greatest.
But it's like,
rest in peace to the greatest.
But these motherfuckers
walk out on Dave
and they're like,
listen, if you don't leave.
And then James Bernard and them, we're at RCA Records.
They come up and say, hey, we have a summons.
A summons for you, Benzino.
We're in there with a gang of press people.
So niggas start punching on them and throwing them out and shit.
And then we got dropped from RCA.
Like that whole shit was fucked up.
Like all them journalists and shit, they hated me and I hated them.
It was an awkward, fucked up situation up there at the Source at the time.
But they fired them, made me 50% owner.
We hired a new staff.
And then we blew up more than we ever did.
You see how God worked?
Wow.
Wow.
We're going to get back to the Source in a second.
But let's talk about your 2B.
You had a 2B on 2 2b you had a 2b
on 2 i got a few 2b movies i got a few 2b but they said they took one down because you was out there
it's acting it's acting it's acting i wore a sock on it okay i wore a sock i don't know what that
means but hey tell us about it like. Like, when you do romantic scenes.
Oh, it's the romance shit.
And you're butt naked.
Oh, okay.
You wear a sock on it?
Oh, okay.
I put a sock on it.
That's what they do.
They put a sock.
You know what I mean?
It's because you don't want to see underwear.
You know what I mean?
You got to look real.
Y'all seen Monsters Ball?
Yeah, I think so.
The only part you remember is the Halle Berry part.
Right, right. All right, okay. Now, dude look like he might have, if he didn't have a sock, it looked real as fuck, right? All right, all right. Yeah I think so The only part you remember Is the Halle Berry part Right right Alright
Okay
Now dude looked like
He might have
If he didn't have a sock
It looked real as fuck
Right
Alright
Alright
Okay
So you know what I'm saying
So I
So you gave Monsters Ball
On Tooby
On Tooby
I respect
Tooby's ball
But they took it down
Because it was a little bit too
I'm like damn
Tooby took that down
Alright
Tooby
Tooby be busting niggas
In they face
First one
Bam They shoot you in the face Tooby be doing crazy Yeah Tooby is that down? Word. Tooby be busting niggas in they face. First one.
Boom.
They shoot you in the face. Tooby doing crazy ass.
Yeah, Tooby is crazy.
That's why I know you a little while.
When Tooby mad at you, you going too far.
Did you call Tooby a sexist?
Come on.
No, no, no, no, no.
Nobody gets to take shit taken down.
Oh, the sexist.
I thought it was Tooby.
It's like some real, shout out to Terry Miles because he directed it, but it's some real
dope.
It's my first starring role.
It's a great movie. It has a great starring role. And you know, it's a great, it has a great storyline.
You know what I'm saying?
But the sex scene is probably a little bit too much.
And so I had to go back and edit it,
but it's going to be back up.
It's called I Want Her.
When it first went on, whoever cleared it,
I heard got fired up there.
Oh shit.
At Tubi?
Yeah.
Let me get a damn near pornography.
I heard they got fired.
You get a two-week exact fire? I don't know what you're like, Dad.
But, yo.
The two-week is wild.
You fuck with two-week?
I guess.
I got you.
No, it's not a two-week.
Two-week is a new outlet, bro.
You be seeing the fuck scenes on two-week.
I heard you could make a whole two-week movie from your joint right here.
You ain't got to go leave the crib.
You can just stay home. You can make a whole movie. It takes a week. A. You ain't got to go to the crib. You can just stay home.
You can make a whole movie.
It takes a week.
A lot of these guys really, and they do great jobs, it only takes about a week to ten days.
Oh, Mr. Lee makes movies on Tooby for one day.
What, pour those too?
You do all kinds of weird shit.
Okay.
No, but Tooby to me is dope because if y'all look at Hollywood, Hollywood really has phased out the black movies for us.
Let's just call it what it is.
See, I read between the lines, bro.
God's given me this gift to see this shit,
and I've had it for a long time.
That's how I seen the Eminem shit.
Let's go.
He segwayed himself.
We're still on Tooby, baby.
Let's talk about this. Okay, okay, okay. Hold on, hold on, hold on.i, baby.
Okay, okay, okay.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Before Tubi.
We got, we got, we got. No, but shout out Tubi.
No, Tubi's actually dope because if you look at it.
Drink it, are you drinking?
We're drinking.
Yeah, we're drinking.
We're drinking.
We're drinking.
We're drink champs.
We're drinking.
We're drinking.
We're the drink champs.
We're the drink champs.
Where y'all at?
We're drinking.
What we doing?
What we doing?
What we doing, huh?
Yeah.
No, I'm ready.
They say the liquor bring out the truth.
Yeah.
We got to talk the truth.
The truth is some other things.
So look, we got to slow down though because we got more.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Don't guess out of the beginning, man.
Yo, but this is a great one.
This footage with you, Tupac, and Freddie Fox on stage.
What year and where is this at?
I'm going to tell you a story.
Tell us a story.
I love Freddie Fox, so it's no disrespect to Freddie Fox, but this is what happened.
Okay.
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You know, there was rumors going around over the years
that Freddie Fox smacked me.
Freddie Fox smacked you, you know what I'm saying?
We was both signed to Flavor Unit.
Now, Freddie Fox is a G. Did Time,
Gangsta...
No, he's a real one.
A real one. Yeah. Bumpy Knuckle.
Freddie Fox be hand-to-hand in Boston.
Out there. Okay?
But this is how me and Freddie Foxx met,
and I think this is how Freddie Foxx had respect for me.
Now, Freddie Foxx back then is a big dude.
He's still a big dude now, I believe.
Yeah, yeah, but he got that jail physique,
that jail when you're going to work out.
It's different when you're in the gym working out
than jail workout, you know what I'm saying?
Monster.
So Bumpy Knuckles signed a flavor unit.
We got signed a flavor unit, RSO.
Management, right?
No, no.
We got signed a label.
They put out a video on us and everything.
I remember the video, yeah.
We was on Go With The Flavor.
I was in Jhane's video.
It was dope.
Like, hey, Mr. Demo over there like DJ.
Me and Tretche, it was dope.
Group from Boston.
Everybody on there was either from Jersey,
and there might have been one person from New York on flavor unit. Right. You remember flavor unit? Of course. Queen Latifah. Yeah, it was dope. Grew from Boston. Everybody on there was either from Jersey, and there might have been one person from New York on Flavor Unit.
Right.
And you remember Flavor Unit?
Of course.
Queen Latifah.
Yeah, it's still around.
So we got signed.
All right.
So we go on a tour, right?
And we got like three vans, and it's everybody.
So Bumpy Knuckles is kind of like chomping everybody in the vans,
and he's really
Who's in this van again?
It's all the Flavor Unit artists
Okay
It's a compilation called
Road to Flavor
It's about nine artists
Pull it up and you can see the artists
No I remember that probably
Alright
So we on tour
And I think we in D.C. at the time
I don't know where we at
But you know
Freddie Fox
Something happened
We in three vans
Doing the Bible Belt tours.
You remember those?
You stop in D.C.
Mr. Chick-fil-A circuit.
Chick-fil-A circuit.
I like Chick-fil-A's.
I do not.
Continue.
We'll get to that later.
I brought pork shoulder to y'all.
We'll get to that later.
We'll get to that later.
We'll get to that later.
All right.
So we in the van, and somehow something happens.
You know, I'm strapped up.
I got a little nasty little revolver on me.
You know what I'm saying?
So Freddy Fox, I'm a little guy.
I'm not, you know what I'm saying?
Fox is big as shit.
You know what I'm saying?
But up in the beef, he smashed me.
He a big dude.
You guys had no history before this?
No, I mean, no.
But what initially happened? I don't remember, but I me. He a big dude. You guys had no history before this? No, I mean, no. But what initially happened?
I don't remember, but I just remember it was an argument.
Something happened, and I just whipped out.
Freddie Foxx got up out the van and got up out of there, right?
It was a whole bottle, you know what I'm saying?
I whipped out.
It was an argument.
What else I was going to do with a big nigga?
Right, right.
You know what I'm saying? And I'm not saying that to disrespect Fox because we're great friends now.
I'm just telling the story.
The story's never been told.
Right.
You know, because the rumor was like
that Freddie Fox smacked me.
Nobody smacks me.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
So, you know, we do the smacking
like you do the smacking.
You're a smacker.
I know you.
Yeah, he was a smacker.
Only on Tubi.
Only on Tubi.
Only on Tubi. Only on 2B. Only on 2B.
Let's look ahead.
So now you pull out on him.
So he bounces.
So later on, he calls Shaq Kim, and I love Shaq Kim.
Flavor you with Shaq Kim.
Shaq Kim has been behind me from day one.
Right.
Shout out to Shaq Kim.
Shout out to Latif and Tufa for giving us a shot back then when nobody did.
Yep.
He called and was like, yo, I want to Shaq Kim. Shout out to Latif and Tufor for giving us a shot back then when nobody did. He called and was like,
yo, I want to do a song.
I want you to come do a song
with me and Tupac.
I'm like, me?
I'm like,
because I got other niggas in the office
who are doper than me
as far as lyrics go.
I got...
But you pulled up to the Yammer.
I got EBS and Tony Romney.
He's like, nah, I want you.
I'm like, all right, we go.
He said, nah, I don't want you
to come with everybody.
I want you to come by yourself.
It's going to be at Power Play in Queens.
Remember that studio?
Power Play in Queens.
Of course, Power Play is legendary.
I said, man, we're going to come.
He said, nah, I want you to come by yourself.
I was like, oh, shit, this nigga trying to.
This is lining you up here.
This nigga getting ready to line me up.
What'd they call that back then?
Set up?
Set up back in the day.
OK, all right, cool.
OK.
You know what I'm saying?
Set up back in the day.
So did you go by yourself?
I went.
By yourself? By myself. By myself. I'm sure you had that little revolver with you. So, did you go by yourself? I went. By yourself?
By myself.
I'm sure you had that little revolver with you.
And you was too popular?
No, no, no.
You know what?
I didn't even have nothing with me because, you know what?
I was strapped up a lot of times in my life.
But sometimes, if somebody talked to me and I felt their energy, I just trusted them.
Yeah, you didn't think that they were going to talk to you.
I just trusted them.
Like, he really made me feel comfortable.
He was like, bro.
And we didn't talk too much about the incident.
It just was like, he made me feel like, listen, my nigga, you a real one and I fuck with you.
And I felt good about that because at that time, you know, because me, I'm a skinny.
The skinny nigga's up.
What was that line when he said, and the skinny, what did you say?
Did the Jews say what the skinny nigga's up?
Jews, remember?
Jews and doom, doom, doom, doom. Doom jews and doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom
uh with a skinny and the skinny die oh oh okay so i was a skinny right so i'm like
i'm like this is dope like he's giving me my props i'm like bro i went there and i walked in he was
in the booth with no shirt on in a sinbadbad sword. Nah, we talking about Freddie Foxx?
Yeah, my mother.
Mary Scott.
He was with a big-ass sword with no shirt on in the booth when I first got there.
It was just me and him.
Pac didn't get there yet.
I said, oh, shit.
With a fucking big sword.
I've never seen no shit like the shit that curved.
He said Sinbad sword?
With a fucking sword, bro.
That's different.
I'm not even playing.
That's different. I'm not even playing. That's different.
I'm not even playing.
He's in the booth.
Not even a machete.
It's a sword.
Me, him, and the engineer.
Not even, because it curved.
Right.
That's a sword.
What is that?
The Latin joint.
It was about this long.
Arabian Nights type.
Yeah, fuck you up.
What?
So he was in there rocking with that.
I said, oh, shit.
And it came out
What's up bro
We kicked it
You know what I'm saying
He said I want you to go first
And I was like
I was nervous as hell
Because I wasn't even
The best lyricist in my group
Wait but this is after
What happened with you guys
Yes
So you guys obviously
Squashed it right there
The way we squashed it
Was he wanted me to come
To the studio
We never sat there
And even talked about the incident
The way it happened was
He got the shot
That's the ultimate respect
He's like bro Like come to the studio got the shot. That's the ultimate respect. He's like, bro,
like, I'm just doing
what I want to.
That is the ultimate respect,
though.
Like, I put you on my record
after we have a little smoke.
I'm nervous as fuck
because I'm like,
I'm about to be on a song with Pac
and I'm not even like all that.
Oh, he told you Pac
was on his record as well.
He was on his way.
Oh, you knew that.
Pac was on his way.
I thought that was a surprise
to you.
I got there first.
That's honestly,
you're too much.
He already told me.
He told me he wanted me
to be on his side.
And now Pac, I'm sorry to cut you off,
but Pac is digital underground Pac.
He's not.
Nah, nah, nah.
He's already got his African beads on.
This is the beginning.
93, 94, Pac was Pac like,
I'm getting ready to fuck over everybody type Pac.
All right.
When he showed up,
it was him and Stretch,
rest in peace to Stretch.
Oh, Anderson Queens, of course.
All right, okay, Stretch. Rest in peace to Stretch. Oh, Anderson Queens, of course. All right.
Okay, Stretch.
Live Squad.
All right.
Was he Moneybags, dude?
I don't see that.
No.
Moby?
Easy Moby?
Mo' Preem.
Oh, Mo' Preem.
His brother.
And the DJ of Brand Nubia.
Easy Moby.
No, that's...
He just said it.
That's crazy.
He just...
Easy Moby, isn't it?
Alamo?
Alamo.
Alamo.
Alamo. That's Alamo. Got to correct you fast. All He just Easy Mo B Alamo Alamo
Got to correct you fast
Alamo
Alamo
This story's getting hard
Easy Mo B
Alamo
Easy Mo B was producing
For him a lot
Nah I know the fans
I know the fans
I love them
I know your comments
That's why I had to correct him
I don't know Easy Mo B
I don't know your comments
I didn't know what he said Come on man I'm a queen with a dead oar That's what I had to correct him. I don't know. Easy for me. I didn't know what he said.
Come on, man.
I'm a queen with a dead oar.
You know what I'm saying?
All right.
Yeah, fuck you.
So then you, now what happened?
Now he got to the studio.
Pac.
Pac.
Uh-huh.
He did his song.
He ripped it.
It's the return of the troublemaker.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, damn, Pac came in and ripped that shit. See if you can pull the records. It's the return of the troublemaker. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, damn, Pac came in and ripped that shit.
See if you can pull the records.
It's called Killer.
Produced by S.Y.D.
Sid.
Sid produced all the early Naughty by Nature shit.
Okay.
With KG.
Shout out to Naughty.
Legends.
We did a skit.
It was a drive-by skit.
He was like, yo, Ray, put your fucking mask on.
This is Pac.
Put your fucking mask on, Ray. We about to get
these niggas. Yo, nigga, hey! But then they
put all kinds of guns and shit, and then, killer,
killer, killer. I did the hook.
Don't fuck with a killer.
Don't fuck with a killer.
And Pop's sick. We didn't roast any of these bitches.
I got my mind. Originally, he ripped
that shit. Later on,
I tried to put another beat on it and get
clearance. I got sued by Afini. We had to give
$150,000. That's a different story.
Rest in peace to Afini Shakur.
You know what I'm saying? We paid
$150,000 and I felt like, I didn't even
at that point, we had so much money. I was like, hell yeah,
Davis, I don't know.
I was on a phone, I was on a
track with Pop
and Freddie Fox and yeah,
it never got put out.
And there's footage of that?
You got it?
Of that record?
The footage was around after that.
Foxx invited me to a shoot with him and Pop.
We went on stage and we performed, and I just posted that.
Wow.
I just had a paper.
The internet.
I met a nigga that just showed me that shit a couple of days ago, and I had to buy that shit from him.
The footage?
Yeah, it's already on fucking YouTube. My dumb ass bought the fucking footage.
What the fuck?
Bozo shit.
You paid that on Tubi.
Jeez, I don't got money to waste.
Let me hear it.
I want to hear the record.
Call Killer.
Bring it over here.
Put it on the mic.
Put it on the mic.
You don't want to put it on the big speaker?
I mean, if we got time, you know, Mr. Lee.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't got time.
Well, we drinking.
You don't drink at night.
We drink at night.
We're the drink champs, sir.
Yeah.
But Jesus.
Yeah, you got like 17 blunts over there.
Hey, man, you know.
Are you going to pass one?
Yeah, you want more?
Hey, I bought a pork shoulder to this nigga's club.
How about that?
Hey, you don't eat pork.
By the way.
By the way.
We chilling. It's holiday time. And he don't eat pork By the way By the way We chillin'
It's holiday time You know we all
Everyone's cooking
Zeno's is coming
My career
I can pour this?
Yes yes
You sure you wanna
You wanna mix it?
Cause we got the other
Duce back there
We got the other
Duce back there
You the drink champ man You good I thought y'all was the drink champ? Who's the drink champ? We got the other Duce back there. I'm the fucking drink champ. Okay, we got the other You're the drink champ, man.
You're good.
You're good.
I thought y'all was the drink champ.
I don't see you drinking
that time.
I don't see you drinking.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Here's where it goes.
Yeah.
I want to see you
because to be honest,
I always say I don't drink,
but back in the day,
I used to drink
a whole fifth of Hennessy
and walk around the club in Boston.
Shirt off.
Yeah, I do this.
In the 80s.
In the 80s.
Do we do Quick Time of Slime, or do we...
We might as well do it now.
We do it now?
Yeah, we might as well do it now.
You know what I mean?
Man, history supposedly.
I was the man that was supposed to be ahead of on, hold on. I had it in the clip.
Look, boy.
A lot of water, boy.
Hey.
That's my shit, nigga.
Listen, man.
That's my talk.
Hold on, hold on.
Our show is about giving people their flowers.
Oh, yeah.
When they can smell them.
They trees when they can.
They hell them.
They thoughts when they can think of them.
Then give me some money, though.
Give me some money.
And they drink when they can drink.
I want flowers.
I want money.
I mean, you can follow.
You can follow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. drink when they can drink. I want money, I want flowers, I want money. I mean, you can follow them. We can follow them. We can follow them.
Yeah.
And so you know, this is on Revolt TV.
This is on Revolt TV.
I know you always talk.
It's about fucking time, man.
I've been waiting for this.
Goddamn it, come on, yo.
Yes.
Yo.
That's like a suitcase. We're waiting for you. Come on, y'all. Yes. Yo. Yo, look, look, look.
Look, look, look.
That's like a suitcase.
We wanted to give you your flowers.
Yo, I appreciate it. We want you to...
Hold on, let's give you...
Keep continuing to give you your flowers.
I appreciate this.
Listen, man, we know how much you contributed to hip-hop.
Nah, I love you.
We know what the magazine that you were a part of,
and you birthed so many people, including me.
You know, I was on the unsigned hype. You know what I mean? You so many people including me you know I was on the
unsigned hype you know what I mean like me I was on the unsigned hype word shout out to Maddie C
yeah Maddie C that's right all right and so from that you know things lead to my career which still
brings it right here but still brings it right here you know what I mean so I wanted to give you
we wanted to give you all of us us, your flowers face to face,
man to man,
tell you how much
we appreciate you,
tell you how much
everything that you did
in hip hop
has not been gone overlooked.
Right, right.
Because we know that,
you know,
controversy kind of like
follows you,
but we know that
the real talk,
the real reason why you're here
is your love of hip hop.
Right.
And your love of,
your love of love
and giving people love.
I always see you give people love.
I always see it.
And I want to give it to you.
I always.
From the time I met you,
from, you know,
the height of the sauce
to where, you know,
any time I ever met you,
you always been a giver.
You always give people.
I remember seeing you
and just,
wherever you at, you just say, hey man, yo, what's up? You'll meet a person and you'll be people i remember seeing you and just wherever you're at
you just say hey man yo what's up you'll meet a person and you'll be like yo man come fuck with
me and i'm like wait a minute you met this nigga five seconds ago he's like yo and that's who you
are so you know man and no one could say you don't love hip-hop bro like regardless whether
they agree or not you it's hands so we want to give you flowers face to face and this man
The man and we're gonna make some noises, you know what?
Brothers and manners I'm saying is right. Yeah, I daughter stole so weed from you. Yes, right
I remember they are doing Our daughter Koi and Why they ain't still Your weed I have better weed than you
Let's keep it real
They do better
They do better
You was fucking up
At that time
No because
No because you're more
Lackadaisical than me
Lackadaisical
Yes go ahead
I don't even know
What that means
Say lackadaisical
Okay
Alright my thing is
Our daughter stole weed
From you
That's right
Like bro like
That's right
We was parents
When we lived together When we lived like I learned a lot about you and it was like i'm like
like first of all right the t-o-n-y is one of the top three verses ever spit to me my favorite top
three verses of all time of all time thank you like my nigga i like like you killed that shit
bro thank you we'll be giving you your flowers
Nah nah nah
But niggas try to shit on me
And make history
Bro like
Come on man
Like I relate
Right yes
And like
When we live together
You see
Like
Anytime when I would come to you
With personal problems
You would always be there for me
That's right
Like you didn't judge me
That's right
Cause I know
Like I know I'm not right
All the way up there I know that None of us are None of judge me. That's right. Because I know I'm not right all the way up there.
None of us are. None of us are.
None of us are. I know that. Like, I'm not.
Bro, you've been, bro. I've been through a lot.
You know what I'm saying? It's like, you never
judge me. And I always look up to you
because, you got
to understand, I'm not a magazine
nigga. I want to go
platinum. You've been platinum many times,
bro. I've watched you go from gangsta shit, from when Pharrell grabbed you to go, like, bro, I want to go platinum. You've been platinum many times, bro. I've watched you go from gangster shit
when Pharrell grabbed you to go, like,
bro, I watched you, like, when you do what, what.
I'm like, this nigga is on his feet hard.
He's running in place like a motherfucker.
You know what I'm saying?
What, what, what, what?
He's just running in place like this.
Like, bro, like, and then I know you.
I know you about that gun shit. I know you about that gun shit,
I know you about that jail shit.
I know you smack mad niggas.
I know you smack mad niggas.
He's a real nigga.
He's me, he's me.
We relate because we do the same shit.
We don't take no shit from nobody.
And we Puerto Rican and black.
That's right, God damn it, make some noise for us.
Let me keep it on you.
We Niggerican, bro.
That's right.
Let me keep it on you. That's what we've said. Let me keep it on you. We nigger-weakin', bro. That's right. Let me keep it on you.
That's what we've said.
Let me keep it on you because, you know, like we were speaking about, like a lot of people don't know.
If you got it in the sauce and you got unsigned hype, you would automatically get signed.
Let's talk about Eminem, man.
Let's talk about Eminem, yo.
That's why we here tonight. Huh? Fuck Eminem, man. Hold on. Hold on. Let's talk about Eminem, yo. That's why we here tonight.
Huh?
Fuck Eminem.
And fuck everybody down with Eminem.
And my thing is this, bro.
Oh, no.
My thing is this.
My thing is this.
Oh, you don't even need to pick Tom's line.
That nigga won't face me.
Right.
When we was in Puerto Rico, I was with my man Wes.
Uh-huh.
We pop in the motherfucking dashboard with the guns in the dashboard.
Like, we caught...
Who's this DJ?
Who was Eminem's DJ at the time?
Green Lantern?
Green Lantern caught him.
Or Alchemist.
Like, yeah, outside the DJ convention.
Yeah.
Don't fuck around with me, man.
I'm that nigga, bro.
I don't play that shit.
Yeah, yeah, that nigga's...
Like, God bless him and what he do.
But, bro, we come from A whole different
Motherfucking war
In a whole different
Trenches bro
Right
That nigga ain't us
Right
Like what the fuck bro
So hold on
How many niggas around
You done died nigga
I can tell you how many
Niggas around
In Boston
In Boston
He talk about the
Mean streets of Boston
Niggas will motherfucking
Destroy him from Boston bro
We like niggas
Death and destruction Is all we know, you know?
Like, come on, man.
Like, yeah, man.
Like, fuck everything else, man.
Like, you know who these niggas be for 20 years is, oh, fuck you, Eminem.
Destroyed.
Destroyed who?
Who the fuck he destroyed, bro?
Okay.
Yeah, man.
Like, yeah, bro.
Like, you think I'm scared to die, you know?
No, no, no, no, no.
All we do is die, nigga. Fuck is he talking about? No, okay, man. You want to go there? You want to stay there? You think I'm scared to die? No, no, no, no. All we do is die, nigga.
What the fuck is he talking about?
No, okay, okay.
Nigga, do you know what time I got shot with a motherfucking bulletproof vest and that shit broke two of my ribs?
And Big Daddy's at fucking Four Corners.
And I've been shot by my nephew going to my mother's funeral.
What the fuck can he do to me, bro?
Huh?
What the fuck can he do to me, bro?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nigga, fuck all that. That's how we live.
Yeah, nigga, fuck that, nigga, man.
Yeah, what we doing?
Ain't no fair.
We don't scare.
Hip-hop's our shit.
Man, listen, bro.
Can we come back to...
He thought he could just kiss me and mention my
princess my baby he thought he could mention the princess she ain't done nothing but speak
highly of this dude bro why would you say some shit like that about princess about my daughter
whatever the fuck we go through are you crazy crazy? Huh? Like, bro, listen, bro, my thing is this, bro.
How about this?
I know he ain't going to fight me.
I know that.
But how about I'll battle that nigga?
How about we put this to bed, three-round battle?
Where me and him battle, battle rap.
We have a minute and we battle.
How about that?
Why don't we just battle?
No violence.
After that, we can hug it out. No violence. After that, we can hug it out.
No violence.
After that, we can hug it out
and let this shit be over.
22 years,
he making a song about the Zista,
about me.
See, it's easy to say,
yo, he loving hip-hoppy.
In the 80s,
I was a fucking monster, man.
I done been shot
and I done shot more niggas
that I done got shot.
Huh, you think Boston is a joke?
Boston ain't no fucking joke. Niggas, all my niggas that I done got shot. Huh? You think Boston is a joke? Boston ain't no fucking
joke. All my niggas
in Boston, Boston's no joke. Don't
think Boston's a joke. Survive in
Boston with the racism and the
motherfucking gang shit in Boston since
85? My nigga, Boston ain't no
joke. Boston ain't no joke to make
it out of Boston. I love my
Boston. Yeah, yeah. Come on, man.
Mean streets of Boston. You fucking and Detroit. I was fucking with YBI in 87. I love my Boston. Yeah, yeah. Come on, man. Mean Streets of Boston. You fucking
and Detroit. I was fucking
with YBI in 87. I couldn't say nothing
until Pep wrote the book and then I could say
yeah, nigga, you crazy. I was in Detroit
in the 80s. My nigga
Dogshot, Autumn Kid,
Pep, YBI. We've been
fucking with each other. The Bomb Boys.
Like, this is, like, we lose
people with hip hop. Hip this is, like, we lose people with hip-hop. Hip-hop,
hip-hop is the
blood that we lose.
Like, them young niggas in Chicago and everywhere
else, my nigga, they killing each other
and it's over hip-hop.
It's over hip-hop. Like, hip-hop is
who we are. He can't come in and
invade hip-hop in Rosenberg and make
trillions of dollars. This nigga didn't
even go to Nipsey's funeral, bro. If he's so fucking hip-hop in Rosenberg, and make trillions of dollars. This nigga didn't even go to Nipsey's funeral, bro.
If he's so fucking hip-hop,
how come he ain't brought 10 blocks
in motherfucking Detroit
and give it to the homeless black people?
Man, fuck Eminem, bro.
They trying to kill me right now, bro,
because of this shit I'm saying,
because it's deep, bro.
Let me tell you, his fans, bro,
his fans like him because he's white.
They don't fuck with us. Let me tell you something, bro. Let me tell you his fans bro his fans like him because he's white they don't fuck with us
This let me tell you something bro. Let me tell you something bro me
Let me get let me get all the way one funky with you
That's it what I said what let me tell you what this is right
Eminem was born in Missouri a little town little town where there's no black people.
He grew up around no black people.
They moved to Detroit.
They moving up.
One thing about Michigan, they moved to Michigan.
Michigan really is you got your black parts
and you got your white parts.
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Your black hoods and your white hoods.
Just like Boston.
Like, like, like, just like the bean.
Just like the bean.
The bloody bean, man.
The bloody bean. The nigg, man. The bloody bean.
The niggas in Boston don't get they props, bro.
Like, them motherfuckers up there, they hide and they, but man, black people in Boston, we the best.
We ain't recognized enough, man.
We ain't recognized enough, man.
I'm the only nigga that's, shout out to Bobby Brown in the new edition, but I'm really the only nigga that,
man, I bled for Boston.
But what I'm saying is Eminem,
he wasn't around black people.
He made a racist tape with two other guys.
Those guys came and sold me the tape.
I paid $15,000.
Those guys says, hey,
they show up in the source office like,
hey, we want to sell you the tape.
We've been trying to sell the tape for $50,000 to Irv Gotti.
Irv Gotti didn't want, I'm not paying you $50,000.
And before I put y'all in the trunk, I'm going to pay you $15,000.
Yeah, because I want to put them in the trunk.
I want to put them in the trunk and then hold them for ransom and tell Eminem to come get them.
But I say, you know what?
Hold up.
I told you about the Dame and Jay-Z story
when they came up there
wanting to cover
and niggas was up there
strapped the fuck up at the source.
Did I tell you that story?
I'm going to get to that story after this.
Ask me about that story
if I forget.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's why I don't mind drinking
because it all come out.
Right.
Yeah, because I fuck with everybody,
but ain't nobody fucking with me.
And my niggas in Boston,
we, yeah,
killing me ain't shit.
I'm going to come back as a fucking
raccoon
or something. I don't give a, I'm going to live again.
Yeah.
I'm a, you know, 58.
I didn't know I was making it to this long.
The bottom line is when Eminem came, bro,
but he came from Missouri, you know,
and then he got with these two white guys,
and they made a whole hour's tape of the rap racist hour,
and they called niggas porch monkeys and niggas,
and then this nigga Nick Cannon comes out,
like, yo, yeah, nigga,
you fucking talk about the shit that I've been talking about.
How come you ain't talk,
how come you ain't mention the fucking Zista, nigga?
Huh?
You over here talking the same shit I'm talking.
And that's dope.
I like you for that.
But mention the Zista.
You got the turban on.
Mention the fucking Zista, nigga.
That's what I was talking about, turban man.
Don't fucking sit here and talk about all this.
I don't give a fuck, bro.
I've been dead a few times, bro.
I'm Benzino from four.
I'm Ray Dog from Four Corners.
He just don't know me.
This is new life.
This is new some other shit.
I know who the fuck I am.
I'd rather go back there.
I'm not even, I just had adapted to this.
I don't even like what's going on.
I'm not even in this.
I love my girl, me and my girl.
I stay with my girl.
I don't even know what the fuck this is. I know when I came up, I loved that better.
This shit here is like the Eminem shit, bro. Let me tell you something, bro. That shit was designed
to divide the white and black because white people was fucking with us with hip hop.
White people was like, I hate niggas
But damn this hip hop is kind of cool
Just like white people say I hate niggas
But damn that nigga's dunking that basketball for my city
And I love him
What's the difference
Yeah Paul Pierce got stabbed up
Because he was being aggressive
With my nigga
With my nigga's girl
And he disappointed me when we were on stacks
And Matt Barnes was interview and started,
bro, bro, bro, with a camera, bro,
you getting aggressive with my nigga's girl.
That's my nigga's girl.
He don't got shit.
He hustling in the streets.
You got millions of dollars.
You ain't supposed to be in another,
you from LA and you in another nigga's city
trying to get aggressive with a hood nigga's girl
That's not smart bro
Somebody should have told you
When you go in another city
These athletes
Let me excuse these athletes
These NBA and NFL athletes
When you go in another city
Relax bro
Understand who you fucking
Some of these niggas
My nigga Merrill McNeil
Ran up on Lloyd Malloy
And his mother pulled that shit out
Because he was fucking his baby mother
We don't play that shit. Mulvih got smashed in his fucking head from Apple from fucking apples girl
Like stop fucking niggas girls, bro
You don't say like
That Paul Pierce shit and and make no mistake Paul
Pointed niggas out my nigga Roscoe fleet Roscoe got 20 years for that. He pointed Rosiggas out. My nigga Roscoe, Free Roscoe got 20 years for that.
He pointed Roscoe out.
When that shit happened at the club,
I, nigga,
the next day at the club,
I went to motherfucking New York.
Got the fuck out of there.
I had to come back and my man Hurst,
who had nothing to do with it,
I had to pay $150,000 for a lawyer
to make sure Hurst didn't go to jail.
He took it to trial.
They found Hurst not lucky,
but Free Big Trev.
Trev got seven years
and Roscoe got 20 in a day
because Paul Pierce was like,
that's them.
Over the shit that you getting aggressive
with another nigga's girl.
And Paul, let me tell you something, homie.
I'm going to keep it 100.
That night was a Wise Guys album release party.
We got signed to Def Jam with a fucking...
Wise Guys was... Bro,
look. Boston is 15
miles of nigga shit.
Everything else is white shit.
We used to average 120
murders a year in 15 miles.
We was gang. Everybody...
When Cubs came out in 85, 86,
everybody started tooken gang shit.
Our shit was the Bruins.
Our shit was black and gold, but Orchard Park,
where Bobby Brown them from,
was the Blazers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay?
We was ganged out.
We was ganged out.
I was with the gang.
I was with the shit.
I been shot.
I been shot, niggas.
Everybody.
It ain't nothing to glorify.
My nigga Rock died in my arms.
Tony got half of his face
blowed off with a shotgun.
This is the shit that I've seen.
None of this shit means nothing to me right now.
I've been around death and destruction
all my life.
My father did 20 years, was fucking with the
mobsters. I was pumping for him.
I was fucking with the shower posse for four years.
I came up under them when my father
went to jail. This new shit, I adapted and adjusted,
but I was a whole different nigga back then.
I got kids now, so I'm trying to do good in life.
I'm trying to do good in life.
Stay positive, you know what I'm saying?
But at the end of the day, I'm still from Four Corners.
I am who I am.
Nori is who Nori, let me tell you something,
I know I'm so proud of you.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Let's get back to having fun. Let's get back to having fun.
All right.
This is a celebration.
Yeah, it's a celebration. I tish it up, bro.
Yes.
Dow Rogers, Derek Corcho.
I tish it up, Gino. I tish it up up I can name over a hundred niggas that have been dead
Nobody looks at Boston
When you see the Celtics game all you see is white people
Nobody understand that Boston is a hood
Of beautiful black people
And we've been suppressed of hip hop
We don't even have a radio station
We don't have a black library
A black bookstore
African American bookstore.
Shout out to
Amish Man
doing Double Life.
Niggas been getting,
listen bro,
like,
kids couldn't even
go to good schools
in white neighborhoods
without thousands
of white people
throwing rocks
and calling you
nigga in the 70s.
So,
all right,
let me try to make,
fuck Eminem. I dusted Eminem. So, all right. Let me try to make... Fuck Eminem.
I dusted Eminem.
Rap Elvis, bitch.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
How about that?
I ain't gonna lie.
How about that?
How come he ain't answering me?
I'll beat the shit out of him with these.
I'm not the greatest fighter.
I'm not the greatest...
Nigga.
Yeah.
I'm a shooter.
I'm a fighter. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a shooter. I'm a fighter.
Yeah, yeah, come on.
Let's keep it hip-hop.
I know you before Mr. Lee.
Okay, that's right.
No, I know Mr. Lee before you.
So what? I'm drunk.
Scott Storch.
Fuck Scott Storch.
Scott Storch, let me tell you something.
And fuck Jacob DeJula, too. Whoa!
Come on, D-Law.
Let's do some hip-hop shit, bro.
Fuck all that.
I spent $900,000 on a Xeno chain with Jacob DeJula.
I went over to Scott Storch's house one day.
And Scott Storch always used to try to come in.
I used to walk in Scott Storch's house.
He used to always try to be Scarface.
Hey, I love Scott Storch.
I love Scott Storch.
Scott Storch used to have cocaine in like 70 different places.
Like, there'd be coke here, coke here.
I didn't say holy shit.
Coke everywhere.
One day I went to Scott Storch's house, right?
There's coke everywhere.
This is on Tubi, by the way.
Jacob DeJula was over there at the bar with Scott.
Jacob acted like he didn't know me.
I probably gave Jacob two million dollars.
I bought the whole store staff
real dollars. Not the shit that these niggas
is wearing fake jewelry like a motherfucker.
60%, 75%
of the niggas that you see is wearing fake jewelry.
Shout out to the niggas wearing real jewelry.
But Jacob De jeweler, Scott
was sitting there talking. I'm sitting there. I came over to
Scott's house. I'm fucked up
at the time. Yeah, yeah. After the source
file, I was fucked up. After I got indicted and all
that, I was fired to sell all my shit
because I got indicted. But after that
happened, you know what I'm saying?
Scott Storch didn't act like Jacob
back then. He didn't know me. I spent almost a million and a half
dollars with Jacob.
No, I know.
You know who was
the original nigga?
You know who Jacob took?
Tito.
Tito.
Come on, nigga.
Yeah.
Give me something.
Come on, Tito.
Shout out to fucking Tito.
Tito.
Tito was the original nigga
and Jacob came to him,
ran down to Tito's spot
and got me
and I went up there with Jacob.
I gave Jacob a million,
over a million dollars,
a million and a half dollars in cash money.
And this nigga went out like he didn't know me
when he seen me.
I don't got no watch,
because I'm fucked up right now,
but you think Jacob can't give me a watch?
How come Jacob can't give me a watch
that I spent over a million and a half?
I had a blue, red, pear blue,
like, you want to know who I,
you want to know what the shit I did in life?
Huh, who the fuck I was?
Yeah, nobody had more money than me.
Nobody had, not Diddy J, nobody.
And was a good person with it.
We was making two and a half million a month.
Cash money.
Yeah, Source Magazine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, niggas wasn't getting money like that. And guess what? I didn't have to answer to nobody. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Niggas wasn't getting money like that.
And guess what?
I didn't have to answer to nobody.
I was the big boss.
Who did I have to answer to?
Even Russell Simmons had to answer
to somebody at Universal.
They even had to answer to me.
Tom Day.
Yeah.
A table can only add up so much.
Anything at the Source that went down,
it had to go through big, big, big Boston.
Yeah.
What else you want to know?
Quick time with Slime.
We here, right?
I don't think we need a quick time with Slime.
I think we should.
We should just quick time with Slime.
We drinking, right?
We drinking, right?
Yeah, we got the candles in.
Yeah, yeah.
Light the fucking candles.
Yeah, yeah.
Niggas trying to clown me and all this.
Who the,
not accomplished so much.
You know the type of shit I used to do?
I ran through 20 million in three years, nigga.
Doing amazing.
Benzino lost,
I spent it.
I didn't lose nothing,
I spent it.
And I gave it away to all my people.
And I brought all my niggas with me.
The fuck can a nigga tell me?
I'm a street nigga.
I barely, I graduated because of my mother.
They gave me five points to graduate from high school.
You know what I'm saying?
Fuck can a nigga tell me?
This ain't even me.
This is some shit that I'm adapting to.
I'm a fucked up nigga.
I come from four corners. I represent every
nigga around me. All the niggas
that died. All the
house invasion niggas. The car
thief niggas. The robbing niggas.
The selling diesel. I used to
sniff coke. I tried crack.
I did all that. I'm 58
years old. Huh?
Fuck can a nigga tell me?
The fuck can a nigga tell me?
Huh? The fuck can
I'll battle Eminem three rounds.
Look, bro. I need
you to set it up. It's going to be a drink champs
smack. We got it. Fuck that.
You got to set it up. And it's going to be
drink champs, smack DVD.
Smack DVD got this.
And drink champs. They got this. And drink champs.
Ooh. Am I going to be on TV and revoke?
Am I going to be on TV and revoke?
Or is Diddy going to say no to me?
Diddy told.
Diddy told.
Hold up.
Hold up.
Let me tell you about Diddy.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Go.
Go.
Go ahead.
Go.
Go.
Diddy told.
Hold up.
Go ahead. Go. Go. go. D, don't. Hold up. Go ahead, go.
Yeah, go.
We want to know what you're doing.
D told Stevie not to fuck with me.
Ooh.
When I first met Stevie, D said, yo, don't fuck with him.
Don't fuck with him.
You know how me and Stevie got cool?
Because we was both wild, crazy.
We was both sniffing coke.
We was wild niggas.
Just throw it all out there.
Fuck you mean?
What?
Nigga, what?
We all drink, Chaz.
What we on?
Yeah.
What we on?
Cheers, cheers, cheers.
I don't give a fuck.
This is who we are.
This is the culture.
This is who I am.
I'm from...
Bro, I was born in 65, bro.
Martin Luther King got killed, bro, like Vietnam War, bro.
I was born, Boston City Hospital was under construction.
Don't give a fuck.
Listen, let me tell you something.
One of these motherfucking, you see the white people that be killing up the schools?
One of these motherfuckers going to kill me?
No, no, no.
We don't want you to die.
I didn't die.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Come on, man.
Don't destroy my life.
The money y'all get, y'all can afford another mic.
What the fuck are you talking about?
These niggas.
These rich niggas.
Yeah, I'm selling drugs.
I'm selling streets.
I love my baby.
She hold me down.
I live with her.
Yeah.
In the high rise.
It's her high rise.
Babe, what?
It's your...
I don't give a fuck.
I love you, babe.
And I'm getting ready to marry her.
Aw.
One, two, three. Aw. Hey, Sonny, I love you But ain't I'm getting ready To marry her Aww One
Two
Three
Aww
Hey Sonny
I love you nigga
Sucka fat
I love my Haitian
I love my
Shout out to Macazzo
Yeah
So let
That's my heart
I'll kill a nigga for no
I'll jump in a bullet for no
So let me ask you
He's the only nigga
In the industry
That accepted me
Other than Ja Rule
I love Ja
Yeah what's up with you and Ja. We used to do three ways.
Phone calls.
Phone calls.
You know what happened?
With the sock eye?
With Benzino.
Yo, they always looking at me as the crazy nigga.
And it's like, yeah, because they rich and I'm fucked up.
Yeah, yeah, I'm fucked up Yeah yeah
I'm the crazy nigga
Some of the best arguments ever is me
Zeno and Ja Rule
We're good on the phone cause all of us is bosses
And we just be arguing for hours
Hilarious
I'll throw a nigga's shit out in a minute
Yeah I'm about that
Shout out to y'all and me
Columbia Point, Four Corners, Academy Homes, Jamaica Plain
Orchard Park,
yeah, yeah, that's where I come from.
I mask off.
Future's my favorite artist.
Future.
We respect Future over here.
Future's my favorite artist over here.
Yo, y'all need to get Future up here.
Yeah, we trying.
Y'all need to get Future up here.
We've been trying.
Yeah, he got it.
Yeah.
So, I'm drunk. Okay. It's. Yeah. So, um... I'm drunk.
Okay.
It's drink chance, right?
So, I'm drinking.
Shout out to Ching Lotto.
Yes.
Shout out to my brother, Ching Lotto. Shout out to Ching Lotto.
I'm scared to ask.
Shout out to CJ, your nephew.
That's right.
I love all of you.
Young Really.
This ain't no...
I'm not no regular nigga.
Right.
Let me tell you something.
Me and Ice-T, right?
Let me tell you about Ice-T.
We broke Ice-T on the drink chance. What up? Ice-T. We broke Ice-T on the drink champs.
What up?
Ice-T loved me.
Yes.
Ice-T loved me.
Let me tell you what happened with Ice-T.
So we on Tommy Boy Records,
and we got Sue won the chamber.
Everybody marching for George Floyd and CNN.
Fuck CNN, and fuck Fox News,
and fuck all you niggas.
Because y'all, everybody's marching right now.
But in 82, 83,
niggas, police
was killing niggas on a regular.
We made a song called Wonder Chamber.
Christopher Rogers got shot by
police under a car. He hit
under a car and the police killed this nigga in a car,
shot him seven times. Nathaniel
Lackdon got shot in Jamaica playing projects
twice in the back of his head.
And the police got over with it.
We made a song called Wonder Chamber.
Got signed to Tommy Boy Records.
Right?
We lost our deal.
We went to Jack the Rapper and seen Tom Silverman come down the escalator.
Did he have an eye liner on?
I was going to fuck Tom Silverman up.
Did he have an eye liner on?
I was going to fuck Tom Silverman up. Why did have an eyeliner on? I was going to fuck Tom Silverman up.
Why did all these stories start with someone coming down the escalator?
He's coming down the escalator.
Every story I hear, like, there's someone coming down the escalator.
Like Donald Trump and the Simpsons.
Yeah, Donald Trump and the Simpsons.
Coming down.
You like that?
I'm not that drunk.
Come on.
Come on.
No, I know you're not.
Okay, let's go.
Because I got more top questions.
We know what you're doing.
Right. Hey, I'm nice. I. Go ahead. Let's go. Because I got more top questions. We know what you're doing. Right.
Hey, I'm nice.
I ain't going front.
I'm nice.
So who's he talking about?
Donald Trump coming down.
No, you're talking about Tom Silverman.
Tom Silverman coming down.
I used to get drunk in a Jeremiah Burke at a high school.
I went into his hallways.
And I used to drink private stock and peach schnapps and blackberry brandy and get drunk
before going to high school.
Sounds disgusting.
Go back to Jack the Rapper.
Jack the Rapper,
Tom Silverman.
Jack the Rapper,
Tom Silverman.
Tom Silverman's coming down.
Did you know,
let me tell you what happened
to Paul C.
Do you know who Paul C is?
Did you die burning again?
Do you know who Paul C is?
Paul C is a white guy.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You do know Paul C?
You do,
no, you know Paul C?
No, I have no idea.
Paul C's from Queens. Yeah. My do know Paul C? You do know Paul C? No, I have no idea. Paul C's from Queens.
Yeah.
My bad.
Paul C produced for, do you know who Ultra Magnetic MCs are?
Yeah, absolutely.
Shout out to Sedgit.
He a legend.
Sedgit.
You know what I'm saying?
Kool Keef.
Them niggas is dope, bro.
They innovators.
They don't get the props that they deserve.
Oh, no, Kool Keef is a fucking legend.
Listen.
Big up Kool Keef.
Listen, Ultra Magnetic, Paul C.
A lot of times,
Tom Silverman's coming down,
Is it connecting?
It's connected.
Okay.
Studio 1212,
did y'all know that
was in Brooklyn,
Jamaica, Queens?
You ever heard of that?
That's more his territory.
That was Paul C's studio.
Paul C was the engineer.
I met Paul C,
RSO.
We're reading on the back
of album covers.
Just like Green Street Studio.
Green Street.
You know what I'm saying
we read that
because of Run DMC
and LL Cool J
I work with Pete Rock in there
get the fuck out of here
Pete Rock
that's legendary
Run DMC
yeah yeah yeah
and nigga you looking good
hey man come on
we can rock too
sit down sit down
no no no
no no no
sit down sit down
please please
come on
come on
come on
keep saying keep saying keep saying yes saying, keep saying, keep saying.
Yes, yes.
But keep saying.
You love me?
Yes, yes, yes.
Come on, Tom Silverman, come on down.
Come on.
Yes.
I love you, nigga.
Come on, let's go.
Come on, Tom Silverman,
take me down the staircase.
Okay.
But Paul C., what's the connection?
Yeah, Jack, okay.
So Paul C.,
Paul C. taught me how to use the SB-1200.
Me and Jeff two times.
It's my brother.
Your DJ. The DJ, yeah. He a legend. He a legend. Jeff two times. It's my brother. You're a DJ.
He a legend.
Johnny B died in the Hangman 3.
He died. We produced
the song on Nas'
Stillmatic album, the intro.
We produced that. That's why you got nominated for Grammy.
Johnny B died of cancer, bro.
That's a piece.
Me and Johnny B,
the time when the fucking planes flew in the-
9-11?
9-11.
Me and Johnny B was in the studio with Buster and Scarface, and we went home, and that's
when 9-11 happened.
We was trapped in New Jersey for three days because all the tunnels were shut down.
Wow.
That's right.
What was we talking about before the journey?
Yeah, we're not connecting, bro.
Paul C.
Paul C.
Tom Silverman coming down the escalator.
Did I tell you I love you because you fuck with the same nigga?
Definitely not connecting.
Yo, nobody does that no more.
This is like years and years of you fucking with the same niggas.
That's right.
Yo, Norby, I love you for that, man.
Tom Silverman's coming down the escalator.
All right, all right.
Tom Silverman's coming down the escalator.
He tried to walk back up the escalator when he was coming down.
When he saw you.
Because he dropped us.
We got sued by the Boston police
because we talked about,
we had a song about one in the chamber
talking about police like,
at this,
Ice-T had cop killer.
Cop killer, right.
Cop killer.
Ice-T had cop killer.
Yep.
Right, yeah.
Ice-T had cop killer.
And,
I had this before Fuck the Police.
Tommy Boy got signed to Warner Brothers.
Ice-T was signed to Warner.
No, not before Fuck the Police.
This is not?
No way, dude.
Fuck the Police came first?
Yes. Oh, I didn't know that. My bad. Bad, continue. Y'all niggas are so on point. I love was signed. No, not before Fuck the Police. This is not? No way, dude. Fuck the Police came first? Yes.
Oh, I didn't know that.
My bad.
Go ahead, continue.
Y'all niggas are so on point.
I love the energy, yo.
Yeah, I thought
Fuck the Police
Nah, man.
He tell you
how he looks up to Eazy-E
and everything.
Okay, that's right.
First of all,
how long have I known you?
For as long, I mean,
when y'all lived in the buildings.
No, no, before that.
No, no, no, no.
Before that,
when you had the spot
in the beach. Yeah, Club Zeno.. No, no, no, no. Before that, when you had the spot in the beach.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Club Zeno.
Club Zeno.
With pops.
You know, shout out to R. Kelly, yo.
I don't give a fuck how y'all feel about R. Kelly, bro.
R. Kelly came to Club Zeno, bro.
R. Kelly came to Club Zeno, bro.
I don't give a fuck what people think of R. Kelly.
Shout out to R. Kelly.
That man's doing all these years, man, and people are...
R. Kelly's a fucking legend, man.
Yeah, yeah.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
This is good.
I'm back here, guys.
Is he a legend?
Yeah, he's a legend.
Is he a legend?
Yeah, he's a legend.
He's fucking right.
Yeah.
Yo, bro.
We got to pick up who we love in our culture.
Why are we worried about what they think?
Zeno, we got to finish stories, bro
Come on
We're not legend, we can't finish stories
What story?
Tom Silverman
He goes back up the stairs
Tom Silverman comes downstairs
We was going to fuck Tom Silverman up
We was about 15 feet
We was going to fuck
As soon as he got to the bottom of that
We was going to beat the shit out of Tom Sermon
because he dropped us
because the Boston police said,
hey, we're suing these guys
because we're talking,
motherfucker,
the police that killed these,
Christopher Rodgers and Nathaniel Lackland,
they killed them
and they didn't get even locked up.
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Tom Silverman, we're going to beat you up
because you just dropped us.
So did you catch up to him?
Did you catch up to him?
No.
Jay Prince was there at the same time.
God saved Tom Silverman.
Jay Prince is coming, but you guys?
When Tom Silverman's coming down,
look, Tom Silverman's coming down, look, Tom Silverman's coming down.
We're going to beat the fuck out of him.
Jay Prince happens to be right here in the hallway.
He says, yo, Benzino, listen, I'm sorry.
Jay Prince, let me introduce you to Jay Prince.
He said that to Tom Silverman?
Tom Silverman.
Oh, okay.
He said, let me introduce you to Jay Prince.
Oh, he's slick.
That's ill.
Jay Prince saved Tom Silverman for the worst beating of his life.
If Tom Silverman, 17 more seconds.
He probably saved all y'all.
Tom Silverman would have got the worst beating of his life if it wasn't for Jay Prince being right there.
When he came downstairs, Jay Prince is right there.
Now, Jay Prince is my fucking hero.
Jay Prince is ghetto boys.
Ghetto boys. N.W.A. Boston niggas, 915, Four Corners,
Roxbury, Dorchester, Mattapan, South End, High Park, Boston niggas.
We loved fucking J Prince because it was all ghetto boys and gangsta shit.
New York was,
New York was still,
you know,
different type of hip hop.
LA and Houston was gangsta shit.
Boston took on the gangsta shit.
Right.
You got Ruthless,
you got Rapaport.
So we got signed to,
because of Tom,
can't forget Suave House too.
Because of Tom Silverman meeting,
Tom Silverman introduces,
I was so,
I was so amazed of Jay Prince that Tom Silverman weaseled was so amazed at Jay Prince
that Tom Silverman weaseled his way out of there.
This cocksucker Tom Silverman
weaseled his way out of there
as I'm talking to Jay Prince.
But he's the one who said,
hey, meet Jay Prince.
He introduced me.
He introduced me and got the fuck out of there.
He went to go watch Tubi.
Listen, I don't want to diminish Tom.
Tom Silverman is responsible for a lot of great stuff.
This Jewish guy for a lot of signing Naughty by Nature, Live Squad, a lot of people.
One thing about the Jewish people.
Let me tell you about the Jewish people.
You want to talk about the Jewish people?
Don't turn Kanye on us, brother.
Oh, I want to talk about that.
How do you feel about that?
How do you feel about Kanye
throwing you on the...
Quick time with Tubi.
First of all,
let me take you on your Kanye story.
Quick time with Tubi, man.
You want to hear Kanye's story?
Let's hear it.
But you got to stay on the story, though.
What story are we talking about?
The Kanye story
you said you were about to tell us.
Okay, we got to talk about the Kanye story.
Do we finish the top seven?
I think we finished that one.
I think we finished it.
All right.
It took us a while, but we got there.
All right, Kanye story.
D-Dot and Jeladi.
Yeah, shout out D-Dot.
Shout out to D-Dot.
D-Dot?
D-Dot.
D-Dot.
The mad rapper.
Yep.
So I did a song with Diddy.
I don't give a fuck how y'all feel about Diddy I fuck with Diddy fuck how y'all feel about hey hey I fuck with
Diddy I'll go fuck how y'all feel about Diddy
you see you already done first I got so many fucking stories
Kanye and Derek Angeletti stories where we at D Donny and Kanye you said
hold on let me drink okay are going to drink with me or what?
I've been drinking this whole time, sir.
Y'all niggas...
Y'all niggas is cat.
Y'all need to drink, champs.
All the way.
No, no, no.
Pansino to drink, champ.
Yeah, yeah.
We not drink, champ.
You completely right, bro.
Pansino to drink, champ.
We give it up to you.
Yeah, we give it up to you.
Yeah, fuck that.
That's why we came here.
Where the shit at, nigga?
Yeah, I'm on the bottom.
What the heck?
MC Sheer, relax. I love MC She nigga? Yeah, I'm on the low part. What the heck? MC Shane, relax.
I love MC Shane.
MC Shane just got new teeth.
I love him.
He got new teeth.
If it wasn't for MC Shane, MC Shane put Queens on the map.
That's right.
And particularly Queens Bridge.
Not just Queens Bridge, Queens.
But Queens.
No, we got to give Run DMC that.
We say Queens.
Well, before that was Shan.
Shan was before Run DMC.
Shan was before Run DMC.
Absolutely.
Oh, yes.
Get the fuck out of here.
Come on.
Shan put Queens on the map.
Oh, my God.
What the fuck am I doing?
I love Shan.
You got to Google that ass.
What you mean?
There's no Google.
Are you serious?
Shan was before Run DMC.
The Princess Zorro was way before Run-DMC.
Isn't MC Shannon wild style?
Really?
I didn't know that.
Nobody reps Queens, but Shannon.
I didn't know that.
Shannon wild style.
Top of that, at the Lee School, we opened up for Shannon.
Ain't running them in Crest Grove?
Wild style is the first hit that we gave there.
Hey, yo, fuck Mocky Mock.
You want to tell me Mocky Mock's story?
You want to hear the Mocky Mock story?
Fuck Mock wild style. You want to hear that story? Who want to tell your Marky Mark story? You want to hear the Marky Mark story? Fuck Mark Wilde, bro.
You want to hear that story?
Who want to hear that story?
I think Boris wants to hear that story.
I'm going to go take a piss.
You from Boston? You want to hear the Marky Mark Wilde story?
I'll take a piss too.
I thought you meant Prince Marky D from the Fatboy. Take a piss, too. All right. Take a piss. Hold that thought. Hold that thought. Hold that thought.
Yeah.
Fuck off.
I thought you meant Prince Markie D
from the Fat Boys.
Coming off Super Bowl weekend,
I'm not going to lie to you,
EFN.
I feel like every pick
that I pick
went through.
We did it.
I think we did good.
It was a great pick.
I think we did good.
I don't know about them.
Yeah, I don't think
they did good at all.
But hold up,
man. Hold up. We got to shout out Underdog.
Make sure everybody downloads the Underdog Fantasy app.
We got Underdog Fantasy
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Underdog Fantasy. I'm not going to lie to you.
If you're following me On underdog
I'm gonna be honest
You should just stick with me
I'm gonna be honest
I was watching the Super Bowl
And I said
I'm a genius
Everything that I said
Went through
I think so
Almost perfectly
Almost
Almost perfectly
Almost
But let's big up
The Kansas City Chiefs
That's right
And what's Taylor Swift's boyfriend name? I'm sorry Travis Kelsey Travis Kelsey But let's big up the Kansas City Chiefs. That's right. Killed it. Great job.
And what's Taylor Swift's boyfriend's name?
I'm sorry.
Travis Kelsey.
Travis Kelsey with the rewind time.
He was out there.
His beard was shining.
And he made the fade even though he didn't make the fade.
Absolutely.
Yes, yes, god damn it.
God damn it.
So where we going?
Where we going, Paul?
What we doing this week?
What you got?
So this week we got the NBA All-Star.
God damn it.
The All-Star weekend
Is big in Indiana
In Indiana
The West Coast roster
The East Coast roster
Is full
And we gonna do some rival picks
Let's go
For those guys
Let's go
Thank you
Yeah we good?
So the starting five
For the West Coast
Is Luka Doncic
Kevin Durant
Okay
Shai Gilgis
Oh
LeBron James
And Nikola Djokic
Okay I like the West
I like the West
That's a good five Let's say the East
What's the East Coast
So the East Coast
All-Stars is Giannis
Antetokounmpo
For those that don't know
Tyrese Halliburton
Dame Dollar
This is his first time
In the East
And he got the first
All-Star
Which Dame Dollar at
Now
He's in Milwaukee Bucks
With Giannis
He's not in Portland
No no no
We got Jason Tatum
From the Celtics
And the last one Is Joel Embiid,
but he got hurt.
He got an MCL tear.
Jason Tatum wants to do it like Drake.
He's out.
Yeah, no.
They substituted him, I think,
with Julius Randle.
They also got substituted
because they both got injured.
Julius Randle from the Knicks.
He got injured also, yeah.
So they added on Paulo Banchero
and Trey Young.
Okay.
So what do we think?
So the picks are going to be more of a rival.
Who's going to do higher or lower?
Is it going to be Luka Doncic higher or lower than Giannis?
I'm not going to lie.
I hate to say this.
I'm going with the West.
Wait, wait, wait.
The East and West.
You're going for the West victory.
I'm going for the West victory.
Sonny? East and West. You're going for the West victory. I'm going for the West victory. Sonny?
East.
West.
West?
West, West.
I'm going for the East.
I'm the only one.
Nah, I'm with you, bro.
So now one more rival.
Three-point challenge to change it up.
It's not going to be a bunch of three-point artists anymore.
It's going to be one-on-one.
I heard women is going to be involved.
And Sabrina Onescu against Steph Curry.
Oh, wow.
So you know Steph Curry's the truth.
He dropped 60 points.
Steph Curry is going to whip her.
What?
Steph Curry is going to whip her.
All right, on record, I'm going for Sabrina and the WNBA.
I'm going to do it.
Listen, listen.
Steph is going to turn it up.
He said it's one-on-one half court.
Three-point contest.
They're going to be having stations.
They're each going to take turns, 20 seconds.
Oh, wait.
Hey, man.
That levels the playing field.
She won last year.
I want to actually see a game where it's, what do they call it on a plane?
Mixed cabin, right?
Yes.
A mixed cabin, which means you might fly there, coach, and you might come back first class,
or you might go there first class and come back, coach, and you might come back first class or you might go there
first class
and come back, coach.
Mixed cabin.
So I would like to see
an all-star game.
Mixed.
What is a mixed cabin?
Meaning there's girls
on team with the guys.
That's a good idea.
Guys on the team
with the girls.
Yeah, they should have done that
a long time ago.
I think that's going to be good.
That should be
the all-star game on Monday.
You know how they got shootout on Sunday.
Excuse me.
They got the rookie game on Saturday.
Rookie game on Saturday.
The actual official all-star game on Sunday.
And then Monday,
to do a three-day weekend,
Monday, it'd be mixed cabin.
Did I make up some shit?
Yes, you did.
I don't know if they're going to follow through,
but we're going to support you.
I don't think they're going to listen to me at all.
And I'm so used to it.
If they do listen to me,
then they're going to give me the props.
Let's do it.
So I'm so used to it.
Make sure we give a shout out to our partners.
Underdog Fantasy.
Download the app.
Use the code DRINKCHAMPS.
Get matched.
Shout out to our partners.
By the way,
this Underdog Fantasy is probably
the funnest thing that we're involved in right now.
It's so fucking fun.
Yo, God damn it.
Go on the app.
I go on the app.
Drink Champs Army, Underdog Fantasy.
Download the app.
Use the promo code DRINKCHAMPS.
Drink Champs.
And don't forget, if you sign up before tonight, before the All-Star Game, you'll get a.5 pick on LeBron James.
And by the way, again, like we said earlier,
Underdog Fantasy is our partners,
but this is one of the funnest partners that we ever had.
And guess what?
You guys can get to make money.
Holy moly guacamole.
You guys always get to watch us and laugh and do this, but now you get to make some change.
You understand what I'm saying?
Chicka-chicka-chunga.
You know what I mean?
Get yourself.
Get yourself.
Hey.
Underdog. Yeah, yeah get yourself. Underdog.
Yeah, underdog.
Yes.
Yeah.
Let's go, because let me tell you something, bro.
Yeah, I'm a little tipsy.
You know what I'm saying?
But you know what, though?
This was necessary.
You're venting.
What stories was he talking about?
I don't know.
I got stories for days, nigga.
I've been doing this shit for a hundred years.
Maybe, maybe not.
Maybe you could do a couple.
You could do a couple.
Let's do a couple quick times.
This is where we have a little fun.
Come on, Zeno, man.
Fun?
Lighten it up, man.
Lighten it up.
This isn't going to be quick time this time, though.
Let's just talk shop, man.
Let's talk shop.
We got to skip a lot.
Yeah, we skipping a lot in this one.
I used to smack niggas in the head with a shot.
No, no.
See, this is where we going light.
We going light.
We going light.
These don't know me, bro.
Believe it.
We know you, man.
Listen, this is the rules.
Ready?
Yep.
We're going to give you two choices.
All right.
You pick one, and if you don't pick one, then we drinking.
We drinking.
Shot again?
I've been drinking the most anyway.
Shot, shot, shot.
Y'all need to fucking drink.
Yes, yes, yes.
Drink champs.
Exactly.
We're not drinking.
We're going to give you two choices.
Listen, we're going to give you two choices.
If you pick one, we not drinking.
All right, let's go.
If you don't pick, we drinking.
Let's go.
Your shots is right there, though.
Those little shots, not the big shots.
I got my shit right here.
We're just taking shots.
We're just taking shots.
These are the little ones.
The little ones.
You want some of my water?
You want some of my water?
Oh, this ain't the drink champs?
No, no, no.
What is this now?
It's over champs.
It's over champs.
You ever heard of it?
No, it's a decent game, so we drag it out.
I thought this was the drink champs.
I get it.
You want to go first?
No, this is over 40 champs.
Let's go.
Tupac or DMX?
I'm not going to answer that dumbass shit.
So it's both.
You're saying both.
Yeah.
All right.
We're drinking.
We're drinking.
No.
No.
We don't have a wheelchair.
What's next?
By the way.
Give me a light.
What's the next part?
Can we wrap that up?
Tupac or DMX? What the fuck am I going to say? Nas's the next part? Can we wrap that up? Two fucking DMX.
Like, what the fuck am I going to say?
First of all, Nas.
First of all, Nas.
Ether is the greatest diss of all time.
Nas.
And because I produced, and me, Jeff, and JB, rest in peace,
produced on Stillmatic the intro, the greatest intro of all time,
produced that.
So, yeah, Nas.
Thank you, Mr. Lee.
Yes, sir.
All right. Hold on. How you said both. Lee. Yes, sir. All right.
Hold on.
How you said both and then...
No, he didn't say both.
In this one, he said...
No, he said both for the first one.
And now he said...
You want to say the third one?
Nah, you got this.
Are you going to drink or what?
I've been drinking this whole fucking time.
We've been drinking.
Come on.
I'm just a professional drinker.
Where we at? We on Joe Puttons. Yeah. I thought we drink drinking. Fuck. I'm just a professional drinker. Where we at?
We on Joe Puttons?
Yeah.
I thought we drink here.
Yeah, yeah.
I thought we drink here.
No, we stopped drinking a long time ago.
Fuck Joe Puttons, nigga.
I'm saying, what the fuck you talking about?
Okay, next person.
All right.
Tom Bauer.
What you talking about?
I'm in Atlanta, nigga.
Eminem or Machine Gun Kelly?
Fuck Eminem, bro.
So which one?
Fuck Eminem, bro.
So which one?
Fuck both of them, bro.
So I guess we're drinking.
We're drinking?
Nigga, I'm into it.
We're drinking.
Shout out Nas and fucking Nas and Jay-Z.
Nigga, reasonable doubt.
Fuck them niggas.
Them niggas ain't.
You like them?
Let me ask you a question.
Nas or Eminem?
Or who'd you say?
Eminem or Machine Gun Kelly?
Who you like?
Machine Gun Kelly.
This is not my interview.
No.
I got to answer it.
You can't answer it.
Well, I'm asking you.
Now it's the Machine Gun Kelly.
No, you don't.
No, no, no.
What is it?
Eminem or Machine Gun Kelly?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Yes.
No, I...
This is bullshit.
You want me to say real shit?
Yes.
Eminem or Machine Gun Kelly? I'm going to say Eminem. I'll say Eminem. I'll say Eminem. Yeah. Yeah, shit? Yes Eminem or Machine Guns
I'll say Eminem
I'll say Eminem
I'll say Eminem
Yeah
Yeah I'll say Eminem
You like Eminem huh?
Yes
You like him huh?
Why you like him bro?
Why you like him bro?
Hey man
Tell me the first time you heard him bro
I don't remember the first time I heard him
So why you like him bro?
I don't know
You don't know bro? It doesn't really matter Why you like him bro why do you like him, bro? I don't know.
You don't know, bro?
It doesn't really, yeah.
Why do you like him, bro?
Why do you like Eminem, bro?
Let me hear what you got.
He got lyrics. He got lyrics.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
Everybody got lyrics.
Nah, Eminem is a monster lyrically.
Why the fuck y'all like him, bro?
Lyrically, he's a monster.
He's a monster.
Lyrically.
Oh, yeah, he's a monster.
Okay.
Okay, we'll be playing a game, though.
We'll get back to that.
E-Ness will kill Eminem in a battle rap, bro.
Who?
E-Ness from Philly?
Fucking Cassidy will kill Eminem in a battle rap, bro.
Why do y'all give Eminem so much props?
Why?
Why do y'all like Eminem?
Because he's white?
Is that it?
What do you mean?
Nah, like, what?
This is it.
This is it.
Fuck that.
We don't listen to that in the hood, bro.
Nori, I've never ever, ever,
I've been around you a long time, personally.
Personally.
I can say some personal shit that I won't say.
Okay.
Okay, I can say it?
Whatever you want.
Nori, I love you.
Yeah.
You never played Eminem around me.
I never played Mobb Deep around you.
Yes, you did.
I produced a song
with you and fucking P.
God rest his dead.
I produced that.
That's prodigy.
That's not Mobb Deep.
I'm still trying to get published.
We, Sony.
We get published.
Sony owns me.
Yo, two times two.
We've been bailing with Sony
for a long time for that record.
I don't think I got the easy.
I don't lie.
It's a product of you, Ricky.
I don't think I got neither.
What's the name of that record?
Gon Goo been trying to get $87,000.
You know Gon Goo?
Gon Goo, yeah.
He been getting you money and Nature money and everybody else money.
He didn't get me shit.
There's a lot of money.
Yo, let's talk about how the fucking industry
be raping us
for our publishing.
Let's go.
Are we going to talk about that?
Let's go.
Go for it.
Go for it.
First of all,
Universal,
okay,
I made the source hip hop hits
and sold five million units.
Woo!
Lior and,
did y'all know that Lior,
hold the fuck up.
Did y'all know that
Lior,
Steve Stout,
and Jacob DeJula
were video vixens in my video?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's documented.
You knew that?
That was video vixen.
Yeah, that's documented.
Yo, everybody,
there were video vixens in my video.
It's documented.
How about that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
At my crib with the sharks
in the shark tank.
That was hard.
Yeah, let's talk about that.
That was hard.
Yeah.
That was hard.
Okay, you co-signed it, so I ain't got to say no more. That was hard. That was hard. Yeah, let's talk about that. That was hard. Yeah. That was hard. Okay, you co-signed it
so I ain't got to say no more.
That was hard.
That was hard.
Yeah, I remember that video.
Lior Coors runs YouTube.
Absolutely.
Steve Stout runs,
what's the shit he runs?
United Masters.
United Masters.
And Jacob DeJuda
is a multi-trillionaire.
Right.
There was video victims
in my fucking video.
Now, how about that?
There was a part of your video.
There was video victims. Yeah. How about that? That was a part of your video. It was video victims.
Yeah.
How about that?
Fuck you talking about.
Just go pull a bang to this
and you'll see the video victims
in my video.
Look, look, look.
Just so you know,
just so you know,
that's in my notes.
Steve Stout,
we was in Boston.
I got these two chicks
in Boston right here.
So Steve Stout's
getting his dick sucked.
He's making these funny noises.
I'm looking at this and saying,
what the fuck is the matter with you? What type of weirdo shit is that? So Steve Jobs getting his dick sucked. He's making these funny noises. I'm looking at this and saying,
what the fuck is the matter with you?
What type of weirdo shit is that?
I got him two chicks.
We used to have a studio in Canton.
Across the street was a house that I owned.
I got two chicks.
Okay, all right, man.
My baby said, hey, all right, all right, all right.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Fuck you, me, man.
Niggas can tell me, man.
Rockefeller or Rough Riders?
Rockefeller or Rough Riders?
Huh?
Rockefeller or Rough Riders?
What are we doing?
It's a quick time with slime.
It's a shot time.
What am I supposed to do?
Pick one?
You pick one or none.
Both of them.
They're both amazing motherfuckers.
Let's go.
Shot, shot, shot.
Almighty RSO or made men?
We're trying to be cute right now.
We're trying to be cute.
Amen.
Let me tell you something.
First of all, right, there is no Benzino without Almighty Arbisol.
There is no me.
I love my niggas.
I love E. Devious, Mr. Jesus, Tony Rome.
Jeff two times is my fucking real brother.
Like, y'all don't even understand what we've been through just as friends and all the gun battles and all the loss and the deaths and the crazy shit and the indictments and the federal.
Did you know that a motherfucker wore a fucking wire at the source with me?
Hey, who else?
Is this game over?
So this is both?
You said both?
You said both. Yeah.
This is my fucking, I will die for them niggas.
I will fucking kill for them niggas.
So we cheers.
We taking a shot at that.
You're not even drinking.
What do you mean?
I'm the fucking drink champ of this bitch.
Okay, you're drinking.
Nobody drunk more than me on drink champs.
How many drink champs I done did?
This is your fourth, I believe.
I'm the fucking drink champ's next.
Who did more than me?
Only Kiss did four. And me and Kiss. I think you got tied. You and Kiss is tied. Shout did more than you? Only Kiss did four.
And me and Kiss.
I think you got tied.
You and Kiss is tied.
Shout out to Jadakiss.
I love Jadakiss.
Word.
Okay.
So let me take that.
Did I say how proud of you I am?
Hold on, hold on.
Let me take that for example, right?
You just said
you're proud of Jadakiss, right?
No, no, no, no.
But you said you show love to Jadakiss.
It's been known that you guys and the Rough Riders have beef.
You and Jadakiss have beef.
Y'all squashed it.
All right.
You want to hear the story?
All right, we're going to tell the story.
We on tour with Rough Riders.
That's the whole Rough Riders.
The amazing, incredible Rough Riders.
Shout out to D and Wah and their contribution.
Like, honestly, like Tupac and really DMX really stand alone than anybody else.
There's really nobody in hip-hop than Tupac and DMX because, and the way I say this is because they took their wildness and
hip-hopness and their fame
as far as how big they
was and didn't give a fuck and gave them
who they was.
We're on tour, Made Men,
Cash Money, and Rough
Riders. It's our first big tour.
Did I burp?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I mean?
Yo.
First big tour,
Made Men,
Rough Riders.
Okay,
Rough Riders.
We on tour.
I'm proud of you.
I know what I'm thinking.
I'm proud of you,
nigga.
I love you, nigga.
Made Men,
Rough Riders,
first tour.
All right,
first tour.
50 Cent's opened up
for us a few times. right and um in the G unit
hmm Tony yayo and um Earl Banks understand so
it's horrible shit the way I the way the way I'm the head man I don't want to be
the head man back then cuz the head man, when it was investigated and I got indicted, the head man would have got me to recall.
So I was like, I ain't the head man.
I'm just part of the group.
But we all passed that now.
So we on tour.
This is amazing.
Now, I got a guy named Jermaine.
Shout out to Jermaine.
Shout out to my brother, Jinx.
Jermaine is on it. Jermaine. Shout out to my brother, Jinx. Jermaine is on...
The tour was a United States tour.
Def Jam had a promotional bus that they would go before, a day before, and put up posters and everything before you could win, right?
So Jermaine was on the Def Jam bus.
I had Jermaine on the Def Jam bus.
So he would go, you know what I'm saying?
We had our own bus.
I paid for our own bus.
Mm-hmm.
I paid for the whole tour.
Mm-hmm.
I was making, I ran through about $20 million in three years.
I turned down $55 million from Bob Johnson.
Mm-hmm.
What the fucking niggas tell me, you know?
Huh?
Yeah.
What the fucking niggas tell me?
I turned down $55 million from Bob Johnson.
$55 million, niggaas Bob Johnson's BT and oh I was swiping um American Express them the
neck they press cards so there was no black swipe and I said there's no black
and I was coming with 10 20 niggas yeah you know the Beverly Hills Hotel yes I
do you know that right yes I do very Hills Hotel is one of the most expensive,
amazing hotels in the world, right?
Could you, you know what I'm saying?
Yes, I'm agreeing.
In the back,
there's the bungalows.
Mm-hmm.
1,200 a night,
1,500 a night, right?
Mm-hmm.
I stayed there three months
in the back
next to Sumner Redstone.
You know who Sumner Redstone is?
Absolutely not.
Sumner Redstone
is the president of Viacom and who owns Viacom. Mm, goddamn. They know who Sumner Redstone is? Absolutely not. Sumner Redstone is the president
of Viacom
and who owns Viacom.
Mm.
God damn.
They know who Viacom is.
Absolutely.
Viacom owns BET, MTV,
Viach1.
So I had my hat,
my hair half braided.
Mm-hmm.
When you have a bungalow,
they give you the,
things you come out to shop
with the bathrobes. Mm-hmm. out to shop with, the bathrobes.
So I'm walking with the bathrobes, getting ready.
The braider is at the front desk.
So it's a maze of a whole bunch of shit in the bungalows.
The bungalow's got its own fireplace, fruit every day.
Yeah, $1,200 a night.
I stayed there for three months.
All you smart niggas do the math.
That's how much money I was making.
Three months at $1,200 a night, and they wasn't giving us a discount.
When I walked through one day, Sumner Redstone was there with a couple of people.
He looked at me like I was like, I was like, fuck you, Sumner Redstone.
Yeah, I'm Benzino, nigga.
Like, my hair was half out, and I'm going to get my braider.
I didn't say that, but he's looking at me crazy.
I'm like, nigga, I belong here.
That's my bungalow next to you.
Yeah.
And then I had, like, six niggas in three different rooms in the Beverly Hills.
So after three months, you were at, like, 300,000 or something, 200-something thousand.
That's the shit I was doing.
What the fuck can niggas tell me?
And you paid to be on tour with Ja Rule, too, right?
I paid that.
We went around the world.
Ja Rule was like 10 million at the time.
Shout out to Ja Rule, man.
People don't know that, right?
First of all, let me tell you how God worked.
I didn't even know Ja Rule.
When 50 was at the Hit Factory, remember the Hit Factory on
54th? And then you go right down the street
and Sony's right there. You remember that Sony
had this like
this little fucking thing that you could
play games in, this like little thing. Remember the Sony
hip hop, they used to call it the hip hop room.
You know what I'm saying? Stick the niggas in the basement
and shit, you have the hip hop room. Fuck you.
Fuck Sony.
Sony owe me money right now
for the Nas,
for the fucking,
for your song.
Damn.
But you and Prodigy,
Sony owe me like 80,000.
It's Prodigy's song.
Give me my fucking money, Sony.
Yeah.
Yeah, what you rap?
Yeah, what you rap?
Yeah, me and Two Times,
they owe us like 87,000.
Damn.
Yo, can you call fucking Sony
and tell them to give me
my fucking money? Right now? I want my money too. We produced Yo, can you call fucking Sony and tell them to give me a fucking money?
Right now?
I want my money too.
We produced that.
You didn't get the money
from that?
I wanted the same.
FaceTime them right now.
I wanted to hear it.
FaceTime Sony, right?
I wanted the same goddamn thing.
I need that fucking money
right now.
I did it for Prodigy, man.
Rest in peace, Prodigy, y'all.
Let's make some noise for Prodigy.
Yo, first of all,
first of all,
I'm going to keep it 100.
Prodigy was, when Prodigy and then come out with Shook Ones That's when New York became gangster
I'm going to keep it 100
Then when y'all came out with TNLY
That's when I was like
But Prodigy we got to give it to them
When they came out with Shook Ones
Because New York was on a whole bunch of
Boom Bap and a whole bunch of
You know what I'm saying
When Prodigy and Havoc came out That's when they came out with Gangsta New York was on a whole bunch of other, Boom Bap and a whole bunch of, you know what I'm saying?
When Prodigy and Havoc came out,
that's when they came out with gangsta.
That's when New York turned gangsta,
right or wrong?
Right.
Who was gangsta before Prodigy and Havoc? Cool G Rap.
Cool G Rap.
Come on, Cool G Rap.
Cool G Rap is the shit.
Big Daddy came.
They didn't get no,
they didn't get no.
Big Daddy came and gangsta to the thong.
Listen, the first part of Shook Ones was when you turn the stove on, you hear that click, click, click, click, when you boiling that fucking crack.
Yeah.
Them niggas did that, man.
They did that.
Yeah.
Like, they turned New York up.
Oh, Nas was actually before that.
Nas was dope.
Nas got the five mics.
Illmatic was the dopest album ever made.
But I didn't get from Nas what I got from Prodigy and Havoc when they came out with Shook Ones.
I respect that.
When they had the Hennessy.
Which is that second album.
And that's their second album, too.
I didn't get that.
I didn't get that.
When I seen Shook Ones, that's when, to me, New York was gangster.
You understand what I'm saying? Shook once That's when to me New York was gangster Alright Alright
You understand what I'm saying?
Say that again
When
When
What the fuck was we talking about?
Mobb D
We talking about Eminem?
No
No no no
Mobb D
Mobb D
We talking about Eminem?
No no no
We gonna talk about Eminem
You already did it like a million times
That's all you wanna talk about? That's it? No no no Are we gonna get to Eminem? No, no, no, no, no. When are we going to talk about Eminem? You already did it like a million times. That's all you want to talk about?
That's it?
No, no, no, no.
Are we going to get to Eminem?
We did.
We did.
A bunch of questions about Eminem.
I got a bunch of questions.
Ah, yeah, because that's why we really here.
Right, right.
Not really.
Your legacy, your legacy.
We here for your legacy.
Can your legacy live, man?
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Can your legacy live?
Let it live, Zeno.
Okay.
All right. Which brings great questions to the next question for me. Mobb, Zeno. Okay. All right.
Which brings great questions to the next question for me.
Mobb Deep or M.O.P.?
Mobb Deep.
Oh, no, no, no.
I love Lil Fame.
I love Billy Danz.
Come on, mash out Posse.
Come on.
You cannot say Mobb Deep or M.O.P.
Let me tell you something.
M.O.P.
Take a shot.
Is so, what? Take a shot. You ain't even, nigga, who's the drink champ? say Mobb Deep or M.O.P. Let me tell you something. M.O.P. is so...
What? You ain't even...
Who's the drink champ?
I want everybody to know that Benzino's the drink champ.
You're the drink champ.
Salud.
Y'all niggas is lightweight.
Where we going tonight after this? Tootsies?
No, nowhere.
Where we going? The office? Where we going tonight after this? Tootsies? No, nowhere. Where we going?
The office?
Where we going?
Nowhere.
Why?
Why?
Because we are with...
Because y'all are married.
I'm married.
I got babies.
I got babies.
I go out with my babies.
I got little ones.
Oh, congratulations.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Come on.
FN, I'm really proud of you, FN.
Thank you.
I'm really proud of you, bro.
No, it's real shit. And I'm proud of you, FN. Thank you. I'm really proud of you, bro. No, it's real shit.
And I'm proud of you.
All right.
Remember that time you was trying to calm me down?
Uh-huh.
Yo, let me tell you.
You want me to get real, real, real funny for y'all.
Zeno used to use Twitter.
I swear to God.
And look at somebody.
If somebody would say something bad about Zeno.
He'd be like, well, where you at?
Right now!
No, he's instant.
I didn't know.
He's instant.
I'm like, Zeno, this could be bots.
Yo, he would give them the address to where he at.
It wasn't bots back then.
No, it was.
No, it wasn't.
Yes.
But you're right.
I used to think that was the new way of being.
Bro. I thought that was the new way of being. I thought that was the new way of being
if I used to get strapped up and sit
there for hours and wait for these things to come.
I didn't know.
He responds to every single thing that's ever been
said about him.
One time we used to go to this Italian
meat market, right?
It's by your studio, right?
I don't know if you remember.
We used to go. this was our secret shit,
to go to this Italian spot.
And somebody said something that he didn't like on Twitter.
And Zeno said, listen, I'm going to an Italian market right now.
Come and meet me.
I'm loose.
And I have no idea I'm involved with this shit.
And Zeno, I'm looking like this. He got the hammer. I'm like, where'm involved with this shit I'm just Zeno outside
Looking like this
He got the hammer
I'm like
Swapped up like a motherfucker
Blowing nigga's shit out
Yeah
Don't play with me
Listen you know
You know Mayday right
Like I didn't
Hold on hold on
Hold on hold on
Zeno
Niggas ain't challenging me
My space
Oh yeah yeah
So this is my space
Okay
So homie from
From Mayday
That I manage
My homies
And we talked about this before But I I'm going to bring it up again,
recognized comes from the battle scene.
He was on the MTV battle thing.
Right.
And he did a freestyle on mixtape, on an obscure mixtape,
and he mentioned Zeno in the-
Bozo the Clizzy.
I don't know what he said, but all I know is that he got the number to the label.
Bozo the Clizzy.
No, I don't think that's what it was.
I don't think that's what it was.
No, he's Bozo Da... Why mention me?
Right.
See, he's not asking.
What the fuck do I do to these niggas?
All I do is bag bad bitches, spend money, help niggas.
What the fuck you got a problem with me for?
Right.
Why the fuck mention me?
Right.
You are not doing nothing to me.
First of all,
I would blow a nigga's shit out.
I would blow a nigga's
shit out because all
my niggas are dead. Everything around me
I love is dead. I love my girl.
I love my son. Most of my niggas
I grew up with dead.
You're alive.
Niggas want to talk about my neck.
I got a fucking neck.
Everybody has a fucking neck.
Show me your neck.
Show me your neck.
It's with the fucking head sits on it.
You stupid idiotic motherfucker.
Everybody,
Shannon Sharp don't got a neck.
Like,
Shannon Sharp's neck's big as me.
Y'all say nothing.
You do that to everybody.
Yo, you know Shay Shay?
You been at a club, Shea Shea?
Well, this nigga's next is biggest mine.
They don't say nothing about him.
Y'all going neck for neck?
What the fuck?
You're going neck for neck?
Jesus, man, because they mope like me
and they sisters like me.
Yeah, and I put my dick in they mope.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Fly on Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Fly out of the field.
Yeah, fuck all that.
Oh, my God.
Is this going to be our revolt?
Yes.
I've never been on revolt.
I've been three times and never put my scenes on revolt.
Now I'm going on revolt.
Now you're on revolt.
Now you're on revolt.
It's about fucking time.
It's about time.
You know what I mean, nigga?
Yeah, but let me ask you.
No, but do you
do you rest records?
Like, am I your nigga?
Yeah, I already established that.
Am I your nigga?
Yes, yes.
Come on.
But you already established
but on both disc records
that we noticed
you both mentioned Diddy
on both records.
I love Diddy, man. Diddy, on both records. I love Diddy, man.
Diddy, let me tell you something about Diddy, man.
Okay.
Can I tell you something about Diddy?
Me and Diddy got a song called Who's Benzino.
First of all, who did it better than Diddy?
Yo, Cat Williams.
I love Cat Williams.
Yo, first of all, did you know that Kevin, what's his name?
Kevin Hart?
Kevin Hart was running through the, was like through that's my son
nigga
because I gave him the opportunity
to be the Source Awards nigga
and he see me
at his kids
birthday party because my baby
mother and his baby mother was cool
and I showed up and he acted like he didn't even know me
same thing with DJ Khaled
I gave DJ Khaled club Zeno social wars DJ why these niggas and then when I then when I fall
and lose everything these niggas don't even want to be like yo Zeno come on man the type of nigga
I am is like yo if you fucked up nigga come on man nigga yeah that's why I be fucked up with
these niggas man I was fucked up out here
I was fucked up out here bro
How come these niggas
Ain't come and tell me
Yo come on Zeno
I didn't mind
Because I get in the streets
I'm a street nigga
I'm a Four Corners Boston nigga
We get it in
We don't be
When it's so slow
We lost everything
And we lost everything
Dirt Dave was fucked up
Not me
Shit I go back to Four Corners
I'm so crack Wait but did you Let me ask you something like that Dirt Dave was fucked up, not me. Shit, I'll go back to Four Corners.
I'm still crack.
Wait, but did you,
let me ask you something like that.
Suck a fed, Sonny.
Suck who?
Huh?
What's the difference between when the sauce was the biggest in the world
to now?
Do you see the industry as fake?
First of all, I want to shout out
to Longtail McMillan. I want to shout out to Lawndale McMillan.
I want to shout out to him.
The person who bought the sauce.
The person that has the sauce now.
I want to shout out to him.
He's doing a great job with it.
People don't understand that
Dave, Steve Stout,
and H. Edward Young.
H. Edward Young
was one of the original niggas.
His name is H. Edward Young.
I don't even know
what H stands for.
All these fucking years.
What the fuck does H stand for?
Harold.
Henry.
Can you Google this shit, motherfucker?
H.
So, they invested in the Source magazine, took out a nine million.
Dave told me nine, but it was really 12.
Wow.
He gave me a million out of it.
You know, I used to run through so much money, your friend.
I didn't give a fuck
I had an American Express card
I used to just swipe it till there was no more black shit on it
Yeah I was
I barely graduated from high school my nigga
I sold drugs and gang banged all my life
What else did I know about
I had to learn
When I got with Dave
I had to learn shit
Dave is one of the most amazing motherfuckers on planet Earth.
I know we don't fuck around.
You know why me and Dave don't fuck with each other
no more? Because Dave fell in love
with a black woman with a fat booty.
And that's why?
That's why.
What does that have to do with you guys?
Because the booty rules all. The booty rules everything.
You don't notice that?
Pussy will change you from me.
If me and you were cool and you got the best pussy
in your life, you would say fuck me, FN.
I probably would.
You wouldn't give a fuck, right?
It's the truth.
I probably would.
Sonny would too.
Sonny, you with it?
Sonny would immediately.
No, Sonny's a fucking monster.
No, Sonny will use a pocket pussy.
Sonny is a monster. He don't care.
But a fan loves like me.
And Nori, you know how fat asses are.
Wait, wait, wait.
Hold on.
But that can't be the reason why you and Dave.
I know Nori.
Hold on, listen, listen.
I fucking know Nori, yo.
But that can't be the reason why.
Hold on, listen, listen, listen.
My bad, my bad, my bad.
But that can't be the reason why you and Dave Mays broke up.
No, that's not the reason, man.
First of all, me and Dave Mays accomplished many things.
Me and Dave Mays went up into Bob Johnson's motherfucking
office and turned down $55 million
from that. That's crazy.
What the fuck? What?
That nigga just sold BET for
that nigga just sold BET for
that nigga just sold BET for
$3 billion. He gave his
wife a billion. Went and
bought the Carolina Panthers.
That nigga, we went and met
Bob Johnson in D.C. when he
was packing up his office and leaving B.C.
He sold it. And said, hey,
I don't even want to talk to you motherfuckers.
I don't even like you niggas, but I'm going to
write down what I want to offer
and I'm going to walk out the room.
I'm like, okay. He wrote down
a little piece of paper this big, and Dave opened it up.
That bitch said $55,000.
I said, ain't that a bitch?
My dick didn't even get hard.
Yeah, yeah, fucking right.
Because we wanted $75 million.
If he gave us $75 million, that would have been cool.
He said, take the $55 million and walk off into the sunset.
We owe the bank $30 million from the investment that Dave Mays, H. Ed Williams, and Steve Stout made in the internet.
In the dot com.
And it crashed.
By the way, Benzino had nothing to do with that.
I mean, nobody knew that the bubble was going to burst.
Benzino had nothing to do with that. I mean, nobody knew that the bubble was going to burst. Benzino had nothing to do with that stupid shit.
The computers was this fucking big.
Nobody had smartphones.
Why are you investing all this money into this?
They gave me a couple million dollars,
but I spent that shit in maybe six months.
Yeah, because I was Robin Hood.
Yeah, man, motherfuckers. I was giving away everything.
I didn't care because
when I grew up,
I was a hustler.
So anytime I would get,
anytime you get from the plug, right?
You're supposed to give him his money first
and then get your profit.
I used to take my profit off the top
and then fuck up a little bit of his.
I just couldn't help it.
That sounds like...
I just couldn't help it. You're a gambling man. I love all my I just couldn't help it. I just couldn't help it.
You're a gambling man.
I love all my... I couldn't help it.
I would always...
I would get some work
and whatever the first thing off it,
I'm going to buy some shit.
I'm going to buy everything and then fuck up
a little bit of them.
Wait, so why didn't you take the 55 mil?
Why?
Because I felt me and Dave wanted 75. so why didn't you take the 55 mil why because i felt me and dave
wanted 75 and you didn't want he bob didn't want us to bob was so fly with a suit and everything
i had on adidas he literally said i don't like you but i'm he didn't even like me
that's he said that though no i could tell i could tell what niggas don't like me
fuck you could look at a nigga and a nigga don't.
Oh, fuck.
He just sold BT for $3 billion.
So 55 was non-negotiable though?
55 was non-negotiable.
You couldn't say, give us a little bit more.
On a piece of paper this big.
He ripped off a piece of paper.
I mean, the suit he had on was fly as fuck fitted.
Yeah, that nigga was fly as fuck
They said write down what I want
When I come back y'all gonna give me an answer. Why don't you scratch it off and write?
Your peasants that's how he was and if they say that that's how you felt
You input at all that we opened it up and it said 55 million and. And I said, Dave, we owe the bank $30 million.
Oh, okay.
Taxes is going to take out half.
We walk away with $3, $4 million apiece,
and he doesn't want us to work there no more.
If he said, look, I'll keep y'all as working there
and y'all run it, we would have stayed.
He's like, y'all got to get the fuck out of here
and $55 million and go.
I'll pay off the $30 million y'all owe the bank,
and y'all probably had about $4 million.
I said no.
I made the decision.
I said nah, Dave.
Because we was close to going public.
Wolf of Wall Street.
Did you go public?
Did you see the Wolf of Wall Street?
Yes, I did.
I was the Wolf of Wall Street of hip hop.
Did you go public?
I had more money than Jay-Z and did. Did you go public? I had more money than Jay-Z and Diddy.
Did you go public?
I had more money than Jay-Z and Jay-Z put together at one time.
So you didn't go public.
Jay-Z and Diddy had an answer to somebody back then.
I didn't have to answer to nobody.
See, let's talk about that.
I understand you and Diddy's situation.
Hey, man.
What's the situation?
But let me get my flowers.
I got my flowers.
That's right.
I had more money than Jay-Z and Diddy put together.
Zeno, did you guys go public?
Did I tell you about the story where Jay-Z and Dame came to the source office and mad about the office?
And I had about six, seven of them.
After you went public?
I put guns in the office because they was bad.
And then they left the office because they was bad.
They didn't get the cover.
And listen, Reasonable Doubt is by far the top five album.
I love Jay-Z.
But them niggas came in there rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, thinking Dave was some punk-ass white boy.
And we had niggas chilling up in there with motherfucking Mac-10s.
It wasn't a, we had Mac-10s.
Mac-10s.
That was, you know what I'm saying, ARs.
Yeah.
You had Mac-10s and ARs?
And ARs in the office chilling to wait to see what was going to happen.
See, people thought I was the muscle.
I was the muscle.
I had a gang of Boston niggas.
Shout out to all my 915 niggas, 4 Corn niggas, Boston niggas.
We held Dave down.
Dave, bro, we making millions of dollars.
You think niggas ain't trying to fucking try to test?
We making millions of dollars, bro.
We making two and a half million dollars a month.
Of pure cash, nigga.
Two and a half million dollars a month.
Jay-Z and Diddy wasn't making that.
Ain't no fucking way.
Russell wasn't making that.
Oh yeah, the Z-Star was making that.
And I'm pressing the buttons.
Yeah. I'm doing amazing
shit. Doing everything a nigga
could ever want to do. I didn't save
no money. I never had a savings account.
I only had checking.
I'm a checking nigga.
Hey, I didn't know what the fuck a savings
account was. I didn't even know what a fucking
Look, I brought my man Tre the fuck a saving account was. I didn't even know what a fucking...
Look, I brought my man Trev, pretty big
Trev. We shopping
in Braintree Mall, and
motherfucker asked me for my credit card.
Asked me for my ID because I just
spent a whole bunch of money. We getting ready to go downtown.
Go down to Martha's
Vineyard, and they beat the shit out of me.
And Al Sharpton came. I did
three months for that.
And Al Sharpton. Yeah, they beat the shit out of me because I Al Sharpton came. I did three months for that. And Al Sharpton.
Yeah, they beat the shit out of me
because I spent a bunch of money on me and Trev.
And I had an American Express gold card at the time.
And they're like,
ain't no way a nigga in Boston
going to have an American Express gold card.
And I bought,
Trev just got out of jail
and I bought him about $1,000 worth of clothes
and we get ready to go to Martha's Vineyard.
And these motherfuckers,
I bought the clothes and then I'm in the mall and they said, hey, to Martha's Vineyard. And these motherfuckers, I bought the clothes
and then I'm in the mall
and they said,
hey, let me see your ID.
I said, fuck your mother.
Fuck your mother.
Yeah, your mother.
I'm going to just give you my ID, motherfucker.
I just spent this money on me and my man.
The nigga put the spray shit,
what is it called?
The mace
spray did
and fucked me up
beat the shit out of me
and dragged me out
the mall like this.
And Al Sharpton came
I got locked up
Al Sharpton came
and visited me
and Al Sharpton came
and visited me in jail
did you know that?
Why?
He said man
he said man
I said man
I was
I was
you know what's so funny?
When they call you from your cell, I had my little, like, folder.
Like, I was, like, walking through the cell like I was really doing shit.
Like, I wasn't even doing shit.
I just had the folder just to look good.
But the CEOs, I wasn't even doing shit.
It was like, Al Sharpton's coming to visit you.
I just grabbed the folder like I was.
I didn't even, it there nothing even in the phone?
So the
crackers was looking at me walking out the fucking
hallways and it was like, yeah, like,
I was like, yeah, fuck you. Al Sharpton's
here. You know what I'm saying?
And when I got to Al, Al said,
let me tell you about Al, right?
So Al's a hustler.
Al's a mother.
First of all, Al charged us $25,000 to have picket signs.
Al charges you for picket signs.
He charges you for promotion?
Don't.
I love you, baby.
Ashley, I love you.
Can I tell you a story?
I can't tell you a story about Al Sharpton's secretary?
When he picked me up from jail. I can tell that.
So Al Sharpton picked me up from jail
in a limousine with a secretary.
And I went to the hotel
with a secretary and beat it out.
Beat the brains out of it.
This was Al Sharpton's secretary.
We paid Al Sharpton like
anytime we needed people with picket signs
we paid Al Sharpton. When I needed people with picket signs We paid Al Shopkin
When I went to Al Shopkin's church in Harlem
Al Shopkin would have the motherfuckers
With 500
Anybody got $500
The niggas would come over and fuck with Al Shopkin's $500
Anybody got $500
The niggas that Al Shopkin gave the $500
Al would give the $500
Yeah I fuck with Al I love Al $500, the niggas that Al shopped and gave the $500, Al would give the $500.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I fuck with Al.
I love Al.
I fuck with the big Al, not the slim.
I fuck with Slim Al, too.
Slim Al on MSF.
Yeah.
I don't like no Slim Shady's.
First of all, we gave Al a bunch of money.
When you need picket signs, it's a cost. You could have 100 picket niggas pickets for 15,000
or 300 picket niggas for 25,000.
Like a street team.
Yeah, me and Dave met Al and gave him 25,000
and was smoking cigars with him and Steve Stout.
You want niggas with picket signs, that's a cost.
It's going to cost you.
I fucking love Al.
Because Al's a hustler.
Oh, you think that shit's just real?
Yeah, Al's charging you for those picket signs.
Yeah.
We gave Al thousands of dollars.
Sit down, Zeno.
Fuck you, man.
Come on, man.
Huh?
Yeah, I love Al.
Because Al's a nigga, and we got it we gotta hustle
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We've been drinking
So okay Your baby's supposed to be the godfather of Cornel Ray. So, okay. No one's got a godfather.
None of my kids.
So let me ask you a question.
Because I always felt like that was like begging, like a baby shower.
You got no Catholic in you?
No, I don't got no Catholic in me.
What are you?
I am Earth.
What's Earth?
What's Earth?
Exactly.
Love.
I don't know what he's talking about.
I am one love.
I was raised Catholic.
One life.
I was raised Catholic, too.
Let's get together and be one life. I was raised Catholic
It's light the candles. Yeah, no!
No!
No!
No!
It's bad luck.
It's bad luck.
That's voodoo right there.
That's voodoo, yeah.
If you light him, then his head's good as fuck.
Yeah, yeah.
What the fuck is this?
It's voodoo right there.
That's why we winning.
That's our version of Illuminati.
Yo.
It's Illuminati.
It's Illuminati.
It's Haitian voodoo.
It's Haitian voodoo.
Illuminati.
Yo, chill. Leave all Illuminati alone. That's Haitian voodoo. It's Haitian voodoo. Illuminati. Yo, chill.
Leave all Illuminati alone.
That's Haitian voodoo.
Leave it back there.
Trust me.
Don't like it.
You're going to have a big toe for the rest of your life.
Your toe is going to be the size of an eighth of spade.
Don't fuck with Illuminati.
That's Haitian Illuminati.
Leave it right there.
We pray to the priest.
We pray to the priest. Do not test that. That's John. That's Johnian Illuminati. Leave it right there. We pray to the priest. We pray to the priest.
Do not touch that.
Yes.
Yeah.
He agree on a couple of words.
You don't go to the priest.
Yeah.
Do I have to call you Saint Norby?
Yes, you should.
Yes, you should.
Santo Espirito Noriega.
So, so, so, if I light it, what happens?
His head turns on fire.
Yes.
Yeah.
Don't worry.
Leave it alone.
All right.
What other questions are we on right now?
What other are we on?
But a great thing.
I want to be very, very positive about this because you birthed a star.
You birthed a star.
And I saw that moment when you went to see her, and I cried, to tell you the truth.
I don't know if I caught you.
You cried? Yeah, I did. Was you drunk?
Nah, I was sober as shit. Was it the rolling loud moment?
Yeah, the rolling loud moment. Okay.
Because I got to see you, you know,
see your princess,
and say, you know what,
when you hugged her,
Who's the nigga that almost died on the Buffalo Bills field?
What the hell?
What the hell?
What is it? What the hell? What is it?
What's his name?
So I went there, right?
I got dropped off.
Right.
Won't see my baby.
Then she was there.
And I met, what's his name?
Hamlin?
What's his first name?
I met Jarvis.
Jarvis Hamlin?
I met Jarvis Hamlin.
Huh?
Lamar.
Lamar.
Lamar.
Lamar.
Lamar.
Lamar.
Lamar.
Lamar.
Lamar.
Lamar.
Lamar.
Lamar.
Anyways, I met him.
Lamar.
Lamar.
Lamar.
Lamar.
Lamar.
Lamar.
Lamar.
Because I heard that he was at the party, the all-white.
You remember the all-white party?
No.
You remember the all-white party that Michael Rubin gave?
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
In Hampton.
Coy was there.
Okay.
And Jarvis Hamlin was there.
Okay.
Lamar. So, what?
DeMar?
DeMar?
You sure?
Yeah, I'm sure DeMar.
I thought it was Jarvis.
Who said Jarvis?
Somebody, some weird guy back there.
All right.
What's his name?
DeMar Hamlin.
DeMar Hamlin was there.
So, I guess he was interested in,
because he was at the white party.
I guess he was interested in Because he was at the white party I guess he was interested in my daughter
Man
Wait what?
What's the matter?
Oh you said he was interested in your daughter
Jamar
What's his name?
Jamar Hamlin was there
When I went to go watch her at Rolling Loud
Oh at Rolling Loud okay
Jamar Hamlin was there
So he's the person
Huh?
What? Jamal.
What?
Jamal.
Jamal.
Jamal Hamlin was there.
Like he wanted to kick it to her?
Okay.
Huh?
He wanted to kick it to her?
He was there.
So evidently he met her at the party.
He was interested in my daughter.
Right?
Now, first of all,
I met him and he was cool as hell Right
I met him he was cool
I never met no
Like when it came to like
A man with my daughter
I never met no man
Right
You know what I'm saying
So he was there
He was like yo what's up OG
And I was like
These are all the niggas you invited
You know
Huh
Out there
Being messy as hell
Man
I love
Big Champs yo
First of all
Fuck Joe Bunz
Wait
Oh my god
Say it
Say it
You don't even like him
No
Say it
Who said that
Do you like him
I like Joe Bunz
Yes
I do like Joe Bunz
Well he thinks
His podcast is better than yours
I think
My podcast is better than everyone's He's got a great podcast too Yes he's got a great podcast But hold on Why did we he thinks his podcast is better than yours. I think my podcast is better than everyone's.
He's got a great podcast too.
Yes, he's got a great podcast.
But hold on, hold on.
Is his podcast better than yours?
It may be in different ways.
What?
What was you talking about
before this?
What the fuck?
Who?
Oh, yeah.
Hold on.
Let's talk about you
seeing your daughter
at that moment
and then we'll go there
if that's where you
really want to go.
But you see,
that hug,
that made me cry.
I love Koi.
Yes, that was so beautiful.
That was beautiful.
Her and the...
That was beautiful, man.
Her and the daughter's story.
We spoke about that earlier,
but I'm saying,
let's talk about this moment
where you saw her.
They were friends.
How proud,
no, but I'm saying,
how proud was you
to see her perform that day?
That was one of the greatest
moments of my life.
That's who we're trying to get to.
That's who we're trying to get to. That's who we're trying to get to.
That's so beautiful, man.
Is it beautiful?
I felt like it was beautiful, man.
I cried.
I saw that.
You cried?
Yeah, I did.
Was you drunk?
No, you asked me that earlier.
I was so Wes Rova.
You know what I mean?
Like, that was an amazing moment because I'm watching her, and she was like performing,
watching me.
Oh, so you knew you was there?
I was right there.
First of all, right, her manager, I've known since she was born, DeAnthony.
Shout out to DeAnthony.
And he had something to do with Fetty Wap, Free Fetty Wap.
And he helped Koi and he's been there ever since.
That moment was big for me.
When you go into the stadium, I got dropped off at the highway.
And I walked in.
She's with all these people.
And they're looking at me.
I'm like, yeah, OK.
And then I met the Bills football.
Jamal Hamlin.
Jamal Hamlin. Jamal Hamlin.
Right?
And,
cool as fuck, bro.
And I felt for him.
Do you remember that moment?
No, I didn't see that moment.
I saw this moment
where you and Corey.
No, when he passed out
on the field.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, okay.
Bro, that was fucked up.
He's a great dude, man.
I mean, I met him for that.
See,
I could tell people's
character quick. He's a great that. See, I could tell people's character quick.
He's a great guy.
So he was there.
I guess I don't know what was going on.
You know?
I'm just like, you know what I mean?
First of all, I don't want to meet no...
First of all, Trippie...
Fuck Trippie Redd.
I mean, we didn't ask for that.
You want to know why?
You want to know why?
Because first of all,
Schnapps wouldn't make Tribute.
What is it?
Tribute.
Tribute Red.
Tribute Red and Koi was fucking around.
I said, I don't want to meet Tribute Red.
My father, you know Schnapps.
I love Schnapps.
I love Schnapps.
I love Schnapps.
I know Schnapps.
I love Schnapps.
Not only know Schnapps, I love Schnapps. Schnapps is the'm not no schnapps I love schnapps Man Not only no schnapps
I love schnapps
Schnapps is the greatest
Right
Schnapps went out there
To meet him
When schnapps came back
He said yeah man
He's cool
He smoke a lot of weed
And shit
But my thing is like
I don't want to meet
Nobody
Unless you're going to
Really do good by my daughter
Right
Unless you're going to
Marry her
And really do good by her
Right Well I respect that Right.
Right?
Well, I respect that.
I respect that.
Well, right?
Right.
Right?
Yeah.
Well, I didn't want to go out there to meet him because my thing is like,
I never meet no,
I never even meet a nigga with coy.
So,
my schnapps went and met Trippie Redd.
He came back and said,
they smoke a lot of weed.
Right.
But you smoke a lot of weed.
I smoke a lot of weed.
Right.
I'm not...
What the fuck else are we talking about?
Right.
Smoking a lot of weed.
Fuck Trippie Redd.
Yeah, yeah, fuck that, sonny.
Because if he think he gonna play my daughter, nigga, that's my daughter.
Let me tell y'all something.
Y'all see what y'all see on my daughter.
Don't ever violate my daughter.
That's right.
Yeah, I'm coming.
Niggas see me by myself on the internet.
I got a thousand niggas around the country that love me.
Probably a hundred thousand
Because I'm from the mud and they love Zeno
I love Koi
How the fuck can anybody think that I don't love my daughter
Everybody go through the same shit
No you go through shit with your daughter
It's just that my shit is on the internet
Like fuck all that bro
Every father that is not with the baby's mother
Go through shit
Go through shit with they daughter
I love Koi.
Koi is amazing.
I got,
I got,
I got from my nuts,
two boys,
and then I took care of two other boys,
Kwame and Marnie,
and Ray Ranchavo,
and motherfucking Tanker Wank,
Taj.
All my kids are named Coiler Ray.
My name is Raymond.
Fuck Benzino.
My mother named me Raymond.
So it's Coiler Ray, Ray, Raymond.
Taj Raymond, that's his middle name, Raymond.
Ray Sean, Scott.
And Zeno.
And Zeno's from Benzino
so
like don't believe
all that dumb shit
Nori you
Nori
stop
Nori
like f*** it now
I don't
stop it
just take a drink together
you see me
how I was with my daughter
I want you to drink all that
I see
I'm not gonna lie
I'm not gonna lie
there's nothing in that
there's nothing in that
alright
there's fake drink champs
no there's not
if you're gonna be the real drink champs hold on hold that. All right. There's fake drink champs. No, there's not.
If you're going to be the real drink champs,
prove it.
It's fake news.
Fake drink champs right now.
Fake drink champs.
Let's make that channel. A little bit of bullshit.
Fake drink champs.
You know why I got to last the whole night?
So listen, we'll keep going.
You give me another shot.
I told you I was going to drink you.
I mean.
He's fake drink champs.
I'm the real drink champs.
Watch this. No wheelchairs. Ask me to change you know what's this no you ask
me you are no wheelchairs hey fuck that Why are we wasting our time on a small talk? We already talked about Eminem.
The only reason I'm here is because of Eminem.
No, no, that's not the only reason.
I wouldn't be here if I didn't destroy this nigga with Rap Elvis.
Rap Elvis is hard.
Rap Elvis is hard.
Rap Elvis is hard.
I can't lie.
I can't lie.
Rap Elvis is hard.
The stand, the move, stand, the stand, the stand, the stand.
And vultures, okay.
Let's talk about that.
Because that's all I'm really here for.
Okay.
You said you wanted to talk about your goal.
Fuck everything else.
Everything else means nothing.
Okay.
All people want to know about is Eminem right now.
Let's get right into it.
Okay.
For years, for years, we thought you was obsessed with Eminem.
Obsessed how?
It almost... How am I obsessed with him?
It almost seemed like that.
Why? Why? Why?
I don't know, because it was everything.
Well, if you don't know, you should have said it.
Just like you did this interview. We did this interview, and you keep
going back to Marshall. You keep going back to Eminem.
No, no, no. The reason I'm here is because
of Eminem. Okay, why?
Well, then let's get right into it.
Let's stop the small talk.
Let's stop the small talk.
Come on.
You're looking real good right now.
You lost weight.
You're looking good.
What are we here for?
Fuck Eminem.
Let's talk about it. Fuck Eminem. Let's talk about it.
Fuck Eminem.
I destroyed him.
Okay, but hold on.
Let me get you to admit one thing.
You are hip-hop enthusiast.
You know everything about hip-hop.
Enthusiast?
I'm a fucking whole legend out there, bitch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Enthusiast?
Are you telling me you don't recognize Eminem at all
As a lyricist
You've said it before here
On Drink Chances that you do
Huh?
You've said it
I don't give a fuck what I said
Uh oh so you're like
Fuck that Benzino
I don't give a fuck what I
Fuck that Benzino
People say things for reasons
Man you bitching with yourself
But the real reason
Fuck him
Yeah I don't give a fuck about it.
Even when I told you that, I lied.
We all lie.
Oh my God, this guy.
Google right now, see how many times you lie in a day.
I lied.
I don't fuck.
What did I say?
What did I say?
So let me ask you something.
What the fuck did I say, FN?
I lied.
Fuck him. I don't like him. I don't FN? I lied. You said. Fuck him.
I don't like him.
Okay.
I don't like his stance.
Right now.
Do you like him?
Do you like him?
Let me be there.
I do.
I just said that already.
You do.
Did you meet him?
Oh, wait a minute.
Did you meet him?
Huh?
Did you meet him?
I met Eminem one time.
Okay.
What happened when you met him?
Hip Hop Summit.
We just said hi.
Okay.
Just tell me what happened.
Just said hi.
We just said hi.
How did he say hi to you?
It was dope.
Yeah.
When he hugged you, he gave you that?
It was dope.
What the fuck is this?
He said hi, it was dope.
It was fucking dope.
Yeah, it was dope.
Are you fucking crazy?
But what I'm saying is,
hold on, hold on, I'm going to drink some more.
Niggas will talk about, oh, no, he's going to drink.
Mr. Lee will talk about, oh, no, he's drinking vodka.
You're talking Mr. Lee.
He got his legs crossed over there.
Hold on, hold on.
Let me beat that one out again.
So right now,
you're making an album.
And people say to you,
Eminem want to battle you
on your own record.
I want to battle him face to face.
He's garbage.
The last three songs, he's garbage. He is garbage. The last three songs. He's not garbage.
He is garbage. Come on, Zeno. I can't let you.
Okay, well, let me ask you a question.
What was his last album? Name the last album he dropped.
Exactly.
What the fuck are we talking about?
I don't think I can name
the last album I dropped.
We can't name nobody's last album on this
table. What's the last
album he dropped?
Mr. Eminem, the guy.
Yeah.
You don't even fucking know. Hey, Mr. Eminem guy.
You don't give a fuck about Eminem.
Hey, fuck Eminem.
What the fuck we talking about?
You don't even know Eminem.
Niggas just want to go because Eminem's white.
Oh, my God.
That's all y'all give a fuck about.
If Eminem was black, he'd be cannabis.
How come cannabis don't get interviewed?
How come cannabis don't get on Drink Champs?
We love cannabis.
We love cannabis.
You don't give a fuck about cannabis.
We love cannabis, bro.
Yeah.
I fucks with cannabis.
Cannabis is the black Eminem.
You don't care.
Yeah.
The fuck you talking about Cannabis
Don't you dare listen to that
How come cannabis
Ain't on it man
I'm ready for cannabis
To be on it
He's not on
He's not on
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah you don't give a fuck
Nah I'm not
I'm fucked up right now
You don't give a fuck.
You know you're out of control, man.
Hey, man, y'all, it's the drink champs, right?
What?
We supposed to get drunk?
No, we're not supposed to.
That's not what it is.
It's your drink champs.
Well, that's what drink champs is.
Y'all get all this liquor out.
What the fuck are we supposed to do?
We drink it.
You don't see it.
It started here and went there.
Y'all getting my flowers.
That's right.
Let's go.
That's right.
Y'all see Rick
Ross's. What the fuck? Y'all see Rick
Ross's girl, baby mother, right?
Let me tell you about drugs
and liquor. It brings out the truth
because when we're
sober, we try to be politically
correct. When we're drunk
and coked out and fucked up. And
coked out.
Let's just throw that in there. I've been coked out. You ain't been coked out and fucked up. And coked out. Let's just throw that in there.
I've been coked out.
You ain't been coked out?
Hell no, I've never been coked out.
You been coked out before?
I am.
Come on.
Come on.
I understand the advertisers.
We all been coked out.
No, we all haven't been coked out.
All right, you have.
Sonny, you been coked out? Stop it. Mr. Lincoln,'t been coked out. All right, you have. Sonny, you been coked out?
Stop it.
Mr. Lincoln, be calm.
Zeno, you a real 80s baby.
I'm about to walk out.
You a real 80s baby.
Y'all niggas are too much.
No, we're not.
I'm sorry.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't'm the only one that does coke? Yeah, yeah.
Fuck out of here.
Make some noise for Z-Dopey.
Norm, you ain't never did coke.
I've never done coke.
Come on, Norm.
Yeah, I've never even tested it.
Norm, you're from Nefrac.
You don't remember me?
I swear to God, if anybody from Nefrac remembers Normie doing coke with him,
please, please, please DM me.
DM me.
If you ever did coke with Norby, DM me.
Yeah.
I can't believe this shit.
I'm from Left Rack.
Nigga coking his fucking oatmeal.
What the fuck is he talking about?
I wish.
I wish.
What?
You wish what?
I wish.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I think I probably like it.
Let's get back to the hip hop.
I probably would like it.
That's why I'm always missing it.
Okay, keep it.
I don't even care if you get it passed, but he did coke before.
I wouldn't be able to hide it from any of these niggas in here as much because, by the
way, by the way, I'm an extremist.
That's me too.
Whatever I do, I'm going to do to the stream.
I don't give a fuck about anybody.
I don't give a fuck about anybody.
If I'm going to drink, I'm going to drink on Sunday.
I'm 58 years old.
You come from a different time.
Woolers was nice in your era.
I smoke Woolers.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I know.
Ray Crossworth said he smoked Woolers.
He did that.
He said Coke and weed.
That's a dirty one.
That's a dirty one.
That's a dirty one. Because you know what?
Everybody on Instagram
trying to be so politically correct.
That's why I love Ray Kwan
and Ghostface.
You think they're being politically correct?
And shout out to Method Man
because when the whole Eminem thing
was going on,
where they would talk about
why he uses the magazine,
Method Man and Redman
gave him my props.
So shout out to Method Man.
I love them niggas.
And I love to death
Ray Kwan and motherfucking Ghostface
because they keep...
Because Method Man said that.
Back then,
back then we was experimenting with...
Because Method Man said
that he'll put himself on the cover
every single time.
The first time I did an interview
with Trick Daddy
right down in Atlanta.
In Miami.
He left a joint and that shit smelled
like the most coke I've ever
seen. It was, oh my god.
I love Trick. Dirty,
dirty.
I know about it, but I'm like, damn, you're doing it in an
interview? See, I love
Trick because, nigga,
he'll tell you.
Yo, Sonny, you did coke
before.
Sonny, stop it. man. Yo, Sonny, you did coke before. Sonny, stop it.
You did coke, Sonny.
So don't fucking...
It's nothing to be ashamed of.
How are you, Sonny?
He take bubble bath and cocaine.
If you're 55 and over, you did coke.
I'm 46, sir.
You did coke before.
You did coke.
I was in my kid.
I never did coke.
Anybody want to be like I did coke? Anybody like I did coke before. I never did coke. You didn't did coke. I was my kid. I never did coke. Anybody want to be like I did coke?
Anybody like I did coke?
Zeno, you come from a different cloth, man.
All right, so let me ask you.
It was an internet thing that happened with Busta Rhymes, right?
And Busta, you know.
First of all, I love Busta Rhymes.
Right.
I just don't understand why he's doing videos of my daughter
and putting five pictures when she's done with bikinis on.
I love Busta Rhymes.
Busta Rhymes is a fucking legend.
All I wish, I just wish.
And maybe Busta Rhymes did.
There's no beef with Busta Rhymes.
Busta Rhymes went into the Koi situation with only love.
Yeah.
When 9-15 happened, me and Busta Rhymes left the session. There ain't no beef with Busta Rhymes. He's a legend. went into the court situation with only love.
When 9-15 happened, me and Buster Rhymes just left the session.
There ain't no beef with Buster Rhymes.
He's a legend.
And I know he only had great things.
He was not trying to just respect.
Understand, let's say your daughter is.
I get your point of view. What would you do if your daughter was doing the same?
I get your point of view.
How would you do if your daughter.
All right, that's all.
There's no beef with Buster Rhymes.
But you know Buster's intention was not that.
And guess what, me and Spliffstar, that's my brother.
I love Spliffstar. I love Spliffstar. There's no beef with Busta Rhymes. But you know Busta's intention was not that. And guess what? Me and Spliffstar, that's my brother. I love Spliffstar.
I love Spliffstar.
There's no beef with Busta Rhymes, man.
He's a legend, and he got with Koi, and it is what it is.
Somebody, I was on live, and somebody asked me, and I just answered it.
I can only answer things how I feel.
I'm not going to, you know what I'm saying?
Because he did say online, he said, you have each other's numbers.
Right. Why come he didn't call me?
Because your daughter's a star
What the fuck are you talking about?
If he has my number
Call me
Hey bro
I'm going to do videos with your daughter
What the fuck?
You know what's crazy?
Everybody has opinions
But nobody goes through the shit I go through
Right
How can you have opinion
If you ain't went through the shit I go through. Right. How can you have opinion if you ain't went through the shit I went through?
Right.
That's my fucking daughter.
Right.
You're going to break your glasses and the microphone at the same time.
Right.
That's my fucking daughter.
Right.
Like, what?
No, no, no.
Am I saying anything wrong?
No, I get that part.
I got it.
Like, my only daughter.
Right.
I mean, but he's not supposed to, like, stick to the manager first.
I have a manager.
Me and Busta Rhyme got songs.
We was together when 9-11 happened before.
Like, there ain't no people Busta Rhymes.
I love Busta Rhymes.
I love all my black people.
Like, I'm not going against my black niggas, man.
I don't give a fuck, bro. I'm about going against my black niggas man. I don't give a fuck.
I don't give a fuck bro.
I'm about to say black people.
I've already, niggas is the term for black people.
We can say that.
Mr. Lee.
It's niggas.
Mr. Lee's clan is out of control.
That's because Lee does coke.
I know Lee before every last one of y'all.
Mr. Lee did the church clap. I know Lee before Every last one of y'all
Mr. Lee did the church clap
Hey Lee
Hey Lee
You know me before
Everybody in this
Motherfucking room
With cocaine right
Yeah
Fuck you talking about
In the 80s
In the 80s for sure
I'm so proud
I'm so proud of Mr. Lee
Mr. Lee was 17 in the 80s
And I'm so proud of Nori
For putting him in a position
Let me tell you
Why I love Nori
Please
Nori
Just chill the fuck out For a second bro Let me give you your flowers love Nori. Please. Nori. Just chill the fuck out for a second, bro.
Let me give you your flowers, bro.
I mean, you came late because we only got a couple more minutes.
It's all right.
So we got a couple more minutes.
But I want to keep it on you.
I want to keep it on you.
Okay.
No, no, no.
Give it to each other.
First of all, let me tell y'all something.
This is real shit.
Nori really is.
And I'm a little drunk.
But I have a little bit of saneness in me.
Nori really is the only nigga
that puts on his direct niggas,
direct niggas,
and puts them in position.
Mr. Lee,
when I met Mr. Lee,
Mr. Lee was a fucking trapper.
He was,
no, no, no,
let me keep it 100.
Before all this,
before he even knew Norrie,
he was a trapper in Miami,
right?
Trapper. You know what a trapper
is, right? Trapper.
He's like...
Trapper.
When Nori put together his squad,
what I like about Nori, Nori got
a squad of guys that's been together
for over fucking as long as I...
And they all love me.
That's your crew.
Drake Chibs is just some shit that we we but we really fuck with each other on this is like they love me yes right I'm not that's right that's right that's
right just because I'm not I'm loved by this cool right here but I'm loved I'm
loved CJ Ching being I'm loved for real, Ching Bing, I'm loved for real.
Absolutely. Like, niggas who ride for me.
Absolutely.
And I ride for Nori.
I kill a nigga for Nori.
Absolutely.
You got a problem with anybody?
No, I don't.
No.
No.
Because you know niggas love you.
I'm chilling.
Yeah, you know, me and Yami grabbed that.
Well, Mr. Lee let the guy with the rooster head in the other day.
Me and Yami.
Me and Yami will put two in niggas' head for you, bro.
Wow, wow, wow.
Yeah, and Porky, Free Porky, my brother's locked up for murder right now.
What are we talking about?
We're talking about you and your flowers.
But bow up, you put Mr. Lee on is what I'm saying.
It's like people don't know that.
Nori, but you got to get your flowers.
You put Whale Street, you don't put college niggas on.
You put Whale Street niggas on You put real street niggas on
Nori
And Nori
And Nori
And I watched out to Nary
And I watched out to Nary his wife
Because Nary got a juice bar up in Hallandale
Like I watched Nori and Nary
Like y'all don't even understand
I admire this nigga I loved it
Yeah bro
I don't wanna talk no more
It's over
Hold on
One more question
One more question
Because me and his relationship
Is supported
Hold on
You think this shit
Is some fake shit
No no no
Sit down
Sit down
One more
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One more One more One more One more One more One more One more One more One more One more One more I don't know what the fuck niggas think I am.
I represent.
Nigga, kill me, nigga.
I've already lived, nigga.
My life, you live on.
Nigga, what?
Nigga, I love you, nigga. For real. For, nigga. My life, you live on. Nigga, what? What, nigga? I love you, for real.
Come on, I love you.
Fuck all this shit.
All right, all right.
One last one. One last one.
All right, so
Mr. Lee, hug him.
No, because there's too much fake shit going around.
Nigga, we real niggas
out here. Fuck the internet.
This a real, like, he accepted me and he loved me, nigga.
Like, fuck everything else.
I'm on here four times because he loved me.
Goddamn it.
One more last question.
Sit down, sit down, relax.
But you know what's amazing about this?
Sit down and relax.
People could, they could download the Underdog Fantasy app.
Download Underdog Fantasy app.
Get your picks, make your money on the Dog Fantasy
app. But one last question.
Sit down, sit down.
I got this from the flea market.
Hold on.
Hold on. Hold up.
One last question.
One last question.
And you got to do drops.
Yo.
Let me tell you something about black people.
Yo, we don't got millions of dollars, bro.
You goddamn right.
When I fell, I had millions of dollars.
When I fell, yeah, I went to the flea market.
And look at that bitch.
I paid $25 for that.
And I'm not ashamed of that.
Right? We making these motherfuck not ashamed of that. Right?
We making these motherfuckers millions of dollars.
We the motherfuckers.
We got to support each other.
We the people.
Fuck Gucci, Louis Vuitton, all them, all these.
We spend all this money.
I don't give a fuck about none of that.
I have millions of dollars.
I help my people.
It's my people.
I die today and it's been about my people. I love Nori beyond drink champs.
Alright. Beyond
drink champs. My brother, can you sit down?
Stop talking that death talk, bro. You're not dying,
bro. Let's go. Relax.
You're not dying tomorrow, today, none of these days.
Like, yeah, yeah, I'm
a real nigga, man. I don't
got a front for niggas like him.
I blew about 20 million
dollars, nigga. I blew 20, 25. Hold up. like him. I blew about 20 million dollars, nigga. I blew
20, 25. Hold up. Hold up.
I blew like 25 million dollars
out here, nigga. Fuck these
can tell me. Huh?
Fuck these can tell me. I don't give a
fuck. We all take
falls. We all take
falls. You ain't got to be on Instagram
trying to front like we niggas.
This is what we are. We don't got to be embarrassed or none of that like we niggas. This is who we are.
We don't got to be embarrassed to none of that.
We niggas.
Them people don't give a fuck about us, bro.
They don't care about us.
We got to be together.
Yeah.
We got to be together.
I don't give a fuck about spending $300, $400.
We're going to spend $25 and look like the same thing.
Huh?
Huh?
It was somehow with y'all people, man.
Y'all people think that this Instagram shit,
these bitches is room,
they roommates five deep
with a million followers.
Forget about all that.
We the culture.
If we come together and stop hurting each other
and stop worrying about trying to outdo each other,
we be the fucking greatest
in the world, bro. They coming
to us, bro. It ain't about this, bro.
Zeno. Yeah, nigga. Please, please.
Zeno, Zeno. Zeno, sit down.
Sit down, man. I don't want to talk no more.
No, no, no. I don't want to.
That's it. It's done. I got two more questions.
What? Two more questions. Sit down.
I don't want to sit down. All right.
You want to stand up I will stand up
Fuck it
The camera's going to get you
Right here
Right in your neck
Because
What I'm saying is that
We need to come together
Like we don't understand that
All this bullshit
That we doing
We fucking shit up bro
We fucking shit up
If we come together
And stop criticizing
And bullshitting
With each other
And beefing with each other
And killing each other We could run this this whole motherfucking planet, bro.
Very true.
Why are we doing this when Martin, Malcolm, and all these others?
Like, bro, bro, like, we the culture, bro.
Black, Latino, melanated people.
And I'm not saying they're going against white people, but they divide us.
Bro, this is all about, like, bro, we the people, bro.
We the people, bro.
I've had millions and millions
of dollars, and I'm wearing fake Gucci belts.
I don't give a fuck, man.
Come on, man. Y'all gotta
get out of that. The real
flex is coming together.
If we come together and stop bullshitting
with each other, we can motherfucking run
this whole shit, and everybody can get paid for it.
All right. I've had millions
of dollars and I've had nothing.
Come on, Zeno.
What else we got to talk about?
What else we got to talk about?
You're not letting us ask any questions, bro.
Just sit down.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Please sit down.
Proving that this has been a false
allegation, but I want to ask you.
Allegations? I'm a fucking gangster has been a false allegation, but I want to ask you. Allegations?
The transgender shit.
I'm a fucking gangster.
Really?
I would kill niggas.
I done been through hell.
I couldn't even see my mother die.
I got shot at my mother's funeral.
I don't give a fuck about none of this, bro.
Nori, bro.
Hip-hop was given to us by God to save us, man.
The bottom line of all this, we got to come together and stop bullshitting with each other.
Yes, I agree.
Stop criticizing each other and disrespecting each other.
Stop killing.
We got to unify together.
Even if we're wrong and we make mistakes, we got to come together, man.
Enough is enough, bro.
Yeah, you're right.
They're using it against us, bro.
Let's come together, bro.
They love us. The people, the world
loves us. Let's just come together.
Let's stop, man. Even the young
niggas everywhere, man. Let's stop.
I love y'all niggas, man.
There's no reason to be killing each other
and going against each other.
We all come from nothing.
It's a blessing that we can feed each other's families
from this shit.
Why are we like this, bro?
Why do we disrespect each other in the worst way, bro?
Why, bro?
Like, we the shit.
We the shit.
All the comedians, all the rappers, all the actors,
let's support each other, bro.
Let me tell you something.
Kanye's, I love Kanye's. Kanye's speaking about the Jews. The's support each other, bro. Let me tell you something. Kanye's, I love Kanye's.
Kanye's speaking with the Jews. The Jews
were the slaves. And they came
together and they didn't fuck with nobody else. And they
risen up to where this shit, we could
do the same, bro.
We're niggas, bro.
Stop killing each other, man.
Stop worrying about who got
more than each other,
bro. It's not about that because we all come from nothing.
They look at us like we ain't shit.
Like, let's stop.
I've had millions and millions and I ain't got shit now.
And my baby holding me down, Ashley holding me down, bro.
I looked out for everybody, bro.
I'm fucked up out here.
And I still sell out here and sell drugs
and i still out here do what i do man fuck all this come on man come on i have millions and
millions of dollars that don't mean nothing didn't change me man we gotta come together
black people we gotta come together people of color we gotta come together melanated people
puerto ricas cubans that like and I'm not saying white people are against us,
but the power structure that run all this,
hip-hop was given from God,
and they gave niggas that could come out of jail
and give them checks.
And we constantly going at each other,
and they laughing at each other, bro.
I didn't come on here, Nori, to bullshit, bro. I come on here, I told you, I come on here
to get drunk. It's the only thing that can make me speak. Man, I lost too many niggas, man.
I've been supposed to be dead. All I'm saying is that hip hop was given to us from God.
And why do we keep destroying each other? Black, melanated people,
and I'm not saying go against white people.
There are white people who go against us.
Okay, that's them,
but we got to stop killing each other.
We got to stop going against each other,
criticizing, judging,
clowning each other, man.
Like, come on, man.
Enough is enough.
Bloggers and all that.
I don't give a fuck.
I've had more money than all you n a fuck. I have more money than all
you niggas. I have more money
than all you niggas.
Y'all can't tell me shit, but I'm still
from Fort Collins. I'm a street nigga. I barely
graduated. My mother's dead.
I love my mother. My mother's
the only person that really loved
me in life. Hip-hop
was giving us, like,
come on, man. Come on, man. Come on, man. All this
beef and all this bullshit. These people are laughing at us. Come on, man. I love Dave Mays.
I love everybody. Really? I got pride too. I didn't want to go out like a sucker. I love
everybody, man. Eminem ain't no bad person. He belongs in hip hop.
It's a big racist problem in America right now and Eminem could probably stop half of it.
Like bro, like listen, all he got to do is come to the table
and just...
That's the message.
That's the message.
That's the message.
Fuck all of them.
But that's the message.
We don't need that.
Let's just use our common sense.
Hip-hop was given to us niggas at a time where we was done.
And it put pockets in the niggas who just came home from jail.
Free Young Thug, they're using lyrics against us.
I love Young Thug.
Y'all got to understand, if we could come together
and be on the same page,
let me tell you something.
There's my Eminem fans
that hate me so much
that I could be the next nigga
that get assassinated.
Every person,
just chill out.
Every person that speaks up
for black culture
on a major level
got assassinated.
58 years old, none of my niggas made it to fucking 38. I'm from Boston, bro. Nobody lives this long. I don't care about it. Hip
hop, God gave us hip hop to save us when crack and drugs came and destroyed us. All I'm saying is, man, I'm not the enemy.
All I'm saying is I believe in God
and there's no gray area
between black and white.
It's just right and wrong.
I don't hate Eminem
because I don't know him.
I don't hate white people
because my father,
that I love very much,
turned me on at 12, 13 to deal with Irish and Italian people and sell drugs.
And I look to these people as great men.
I got stabbed by a white dude in Boston Tech my first year in high school because of race shit in Boston.
All the same, bro.
I lived through this too long, man.
And it's like white and black people hip-hop bras together, man.
Like, I don't hate Eminem and I don't hate white people, bro.
All I'm saying is, like, black people would think you're so arrogant and think y'all celebrities are better than everybody.
Everybody just got to chill, bro.
You got to understand that white
people came to this country and established
shit, so it's theirs. Common sense.
But if you want to really
be cool, don't think you're better than the next
nigga. You ain't shit
just like the next nigga
in their eyes,
but you are darned and a king in our
eyes. Let's build each other.
Let me tell you about the Jews
that Kanye talked about.
The Jews was the slaves
and they came together
and they bought within each other
and they now look at them.
Media, banking, entertainment,
they run shit.
We can run shit,
but we don't.
We killing each other.
All you young niggas.
Man stop killing each other.
We don't need to kill each other no more.
Those are your brothers and your kids.
The niggas that you killing are the same people that.
Your mothers love you.
You love your mother.
And people you killing they love their mother and you killing for no reason
I've been on both sides
of the coin
we don't
got to kill each other no more, hip hop
was here to save us
it was here to save
us, to give us a chance
we don't got to kill each other no more
and disrespect each other in these blogs.
We are great people.
And it's none of the matter.
White people are great people too.
They give us shit.
And we give them shit.
Every culture gives everybody shit.
I don't hate Eminem
and I don't hate white people.
I'm a street nigga.
I'm not going to be disrespected.
We all know how to die, black people know how to die,
and we know how to go to jail.
That's two things we know how to do.
But hip hop saved us.
I was in a position with Dave Mays,
I didn't know I was going to meet Dave Mays,
I was a street nigga.
I met Dave Mays, I learned a lot of shit,
I became the source magazine.
I don't hate white people, but people always call me
a nigga and people say what they say about me.
I was 11 years old in my grandfather's basement.
Cutting records to hip hop, hip hop.
I love Beastie Boys
My father put me around
Irish and Italian gangsters
And I loved them
I don't
Y'all don't understand
Hip hop brought us together
I don't hate Eminem
Because of his color
I don't hate you people
I don't fucking hate it
I've been misunderstood my whole life.
My mother's gone.
She loved me.
I'm not a bad person.
I love hip-hop.
Hip-hop isn't black against white.
Y'all got me fucked up.
But y'all can't do nothing to me.
All my niggas are dead.
I've been shot a few times.
I've been shot a bunch of niggas.
Because they're in jail and fucked up.
We're in a society that white America don't give a fuck about us,
and hip-hop saved us.
Hip-hop made white people believe that we was okay,
that black people was okay.
Hip-hop brought white people to us.
And the powers that be didn't want that.
They wanted Eminem.
They wanted white people just to buy it to Eminem I mean if didn't have nothing to do with that he
was just used to the even but he didn't have nothing to do with that you think
this shit go through with me and my daughter is fucking cool I love my
daughter I raised my daughter I'm a street nigga I wasn't around her all
time cuz I was out selling drugs, trying to provide and make sure you were straight.
Just like every other nigga around here, man.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
Come on, Jay-Z's speech.
Jay-Z, you're my fucking idol.
One of my idols.
You're speaking up for Beyonce, but speaking up for niggas.
The Grammys, these fucking white people don't care about us.
We make them all this millions of dollars and they don't care.
We got to care about each other.
We got to stop killing each other.
There's no reason to kill each other.
We black, we from the same shit.
I've been on both sides of the coin.
Hip hop was supposed to be here to save us, man.
I'm not racist.
I love all people.
My name is Raymond.
I'm named after a fucking Italian mob boss, Raymond Payne.
It's not about white or black.
Hip-hop was the thing that fused us,
that brought everybody together, man.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
I'm tired of 22 years.
I don't got nothing against Eminem.
I got nothing against Eminem.
Eminem can rap,
but I care about us more.
I don't want to go through,
I don't want to talk about it no more.
For 22 years, every time I do an interview, they ask me about Emin more. I don't want to go through, I don't want to talk about it no more. I don't want to,
for 22 years,
every time I do an interview,
they ask me about Eminem.
The fuck you want me to do?
Come on, man.
I love my daughter.
I raised my daughter like any other street nigger.
We got to be out there
and get money
for our fucking kids.
We can't raise our kids like Cliff Huxtable.
Black people gotta realize that white people gotta realize
we didn't get show.
We want to make it right.
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I can't. I don't like this.
My daughter came into the industry figuring that,
hey, I gotta be cool with Eminem because everybody's against my dad.
You think this shit is fucking cool?
Oh, man.
We're failing as a people.
I got enough of Shade Room and all these other fucking podcasts, but we're great.
We're amazing people.
We are the blueprint.
Why do we continue to disrespect each other?
Why do we continue to disrespect each other and kill each other?
All my young niggas, man, there's no reason
to be shooting another young nigga
as somebody's fucking kid.
There's no leadership no more.
I love Minister Farrakhan, but there's no leadership.
There's no reason for you young niggas
to keep killing each other no anymore.
We're in a system where these white people want us to fail. Not all, but some.
Stop killing each other.
Stop criticizing each other.
All right, Zeno, Zeno, listen.
I don't want to talk.
I'm done.
I'm done.
You're not going to keep doing this, man, because you more than this.
I'm done.
I'm done.
I'm done, man.
What else do you want from me? what else do you want from me?
What else do you want from me?
I can't get you no more.
I mean, like,
it's deeper than drink champs, man.
Of course it's deeper.
We are people.
We got to love each other.
Let's love each other.
Stop fighting for the crime.
Let's love each other.
It don't take...
But let's... Let's devoid the emotion, man.
Let's attack the real issues
without the emotion right now.
Without the emotion.
No, you gave us the emotion, and the emotion
is real, but at some point
we got to devoid the emotion to give real
results to people. At some point
we got to give people... 400 years
we've been slaves and
raped and tortured and look
at each other going at it. Look at where we're at now.
We're in the worst shape we've ever been.
There's no leadership.
Look at where we're at now. The internet
has ruined us.
Look at where we're at now,
man, as a culture, bro.
The internet has ruined us. We're fucked up,
bro. It's a simple fix. Just love a culture, bro. The internet has ruined shit. We're fucked up, bro. It's a simple
fix. Just love each other, bro.
Love your melanated person,
man. Love your wife. Love your person,
man. I agree. Love your
people. Love your fucking family, man.
Love humans, man.
My nephew,
I'm sure he's going to see this. I love you,
God. I don't know what happened. I don going to see this. I love you, guy.
I don't know what happened.
I don't know what happened.
I love you.
I don't know what happened between us.
It's over.
I love you.
I would never try to hurt you.
I ate those bullets. How can we be the most...
Hip-hop is the most influential around the world
and we're such in chaos.
We got to organize shit.
There's no leadership.
I love Mr. Farrakhan because he's organized
and he's took a lot of black men that was fucked up
and he's made them something.
So follow his lead, Zeno.
Follow the minister's lead.
I didn't come here to bullshit.
I knew.
I knew what I came here for, man.
You know what I mean?
Like, I, you know, that shit happened.
Diddy's a great man, and Diddy's put money in a lot of black people And he's employed a lot of black people
We can't allow these people
To put narratives on our black
Every
When you look at it
Every black man
Has been
They make money off us
They drain us
And then they vilify us
And they
And they put scandals on us
Stop
Going against each other, bro.
Enough is enough.
Enough is enough.
We all come from the same thing.
Blood is thicker than water, but mud is thicker than blood.
We all from the mud.
I can't.
I can't.
I can't.
I don't hate Eminem.
I don't know him to hate him.
I don't hate Eminem. I don't know him to hate him.
I don't hate white people.
Tired of this shit, man.
It's just too much.
I don't want to be the bad guy.
I got an eight-year-old son that I dropped off at school this morning.
Come on, man.
Come on, man. I'm all right.
I don't want my DMs filled with...
I've had nine pages knocked down,
a million white people
think I love all
people.
Come on, man. All me and Eminem
got to do is sit down and talk with each other.
Let's sit down and talk.
Let's battle.
Let's do whatever. But let's
face-to-face, meet
each other.
If that was to happen,
would you give him a five?
Man, I'd hug him.
You don't got to clap for that.
Or fuck that.
I'd hug him.
22 years it's been nothing but Eminem.
It's not to me, man.
Whatever Eminem thought back then,
people evolve and they progress.
All I ever want to do is meet dude.
Just meet him and talk to him.
We probably, just me and him sitting in a room with him
with nobody and no cameras, no phones.
I don't want to hear this no more.
All the white people, the thousands and thousands and thousands of white people that disrespect me for 22 years over this Eminem shit.
They need me and they love me.
I don't give a fuck.
I'm a Boston Mashed nigga that was there, and I've tore shit up.
I cry.
And people don't see me cry many times
because I'm fucked up inside.
I'm psychologically fucked up.
A lot of black people are
death and destruction and shit we've been through.
Crying helps me.
I don't want...
I came around here because I knew knew i know what this shit does
i know what alcohol does to me i'm not even drinking i'm a smoke but i know
and i came on here with the intentions of drinking so i could just put out what i want to put out
there's no like come on man we all from the hood we don't got a front for each other
we don't got a front for each other we all from the same thing celebrity don't got a front for each other. We don't got a front for each other.
We all from the same thing.
Celebrity don't exist in our culture, bro.
Black people, come on, man.
We got to love each other, man.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
Come on.
That being said, right?
Black people, we got to love each other.
What is you and Joe Button's problem?
Because y'all light skin.
I love Joe Button.
I love Joe Button.
Is that light skin shit going on? I love Joe Button. Is it? Is problem? I love Joe Bunz. I love Joe Bunz. Is that light-skinned shit going on?
I love Joe Bunz.
Is it beefing up the right class?
I ain't got no beef.
Joe Bunz said what he said because of what I said with Eminem things.
He has a podcast.
There's no beef with Joe Bunz, man.
That's right.
First of all, I fuck some of the baddest bitches on this earth, on this planet.
When you have the Source magazine
and you on top like that,
you think you ain't got celebrities and everybody else.
So my thing is-
Like Harvey Weinstein.
Huh?
What?
No, something like Harvey Weinstein now.
Harvey what?
I don't rape bitches.
Fuck you mean Harvey Weinstein's a fucking convicted rapist?
I'm a fucking, bitches want to fuck me.
It's different.
You're a convicted lover.
I don't chase that.
I don't chase that track, homie.
Yeah.
That was hard.
That was hard.
Let me give me something.
Give him some love.
Give him some love.
You're going to chase your track.
Okay, go ahead.
Go ahead.
My thing is this. My her some love. You're going to chase your track. Okay, go ahead. My thing is this.
My thing is this.
I don't...
First of all...
For a second. All my baby's mothers
are black and my fiance is black.
I've never been married. I'm getting ready
to marry my... I love Ashley.
I'm...
One, two, three.
Because she's a gangster. Nah, nah, nah, nah. she's a gangster
Nah nah nah
She's a gangster she don't need that
My thing is
I've been through so much in love
All we want is street niggas is love
None of us
Are really ready
To have children in the hood
And that's what's fucked up
When we have children we we're not stable.
We're fucking.
We're not putting on no rubbers.
We're busting.
We're like, oh, oh, shit.
Yeah, then we have a kid.
Now we're fucked up.
As a street nigga, how are we going to take care of this kid?
We love this kid.
Now imagine having a daughter, a beautiful daughter.
We're like, oh, my God, I've been a piece of shit all my life,
and I made that?
Bro, we're not ready for that.
All we could think in our head as street niggas,
I got to get money to make sure that they're okay.
That's what I did.
Like every other street nigger.
We're all the same.
It don't matter where we're from.
We speak different, but we're all the same.
I don't care if we're from Cali
Memphis
Detroit
Houston
Boston
I don't give a fuck
We're all the same New York
All the same Miami
We have a dialect different
I'm not here to talk about
White people
Because I
Then I'll be on
Somebody's balcony
And a nigga be in another thing
and there'll be a fucking scope on me
blasting, blowing my brains off.
You think Malcolm and Martin died
for the shit that we doing now?
How disrespectful are we doing the dumb shit
that we doing to Malcolm and Martin?
But Malcolm and Martin,
even though Malcolm was with the shits,
Malcolm what?
Martin wasn't,
but they still cared about us.
They spoke up for the masses.
They didn't speak up for like,
they didn't get to the Grammys and say,
hey, my wife didn't win fucking Grammys
and I'm going to speak up.
No, they speak up for the whole, for everybody.
That's, hip hop was given to us
to speak up for everybody, for us.
This ain't no joke. If we're going to speak up for everybody, for us. This ain't no joke.
If we're going to speak up, speak up for everybody.
When I went against Eminem, I went for the whole community, for everybody.
Now everybody's just getting on.
I got to take a piss.
I'll be back.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'll be back.
Yeah.
We believe you.
All right. Fucking right. Fucking right. I'll be back. We believe you.
Fucking right.
Don't take the piss right here, bro.
Hey, let me tell y'all something.
Let me tell y'all something. I know I'm drunk, but I know what I'm talking about.
I know what I'm talking about.
All I'm saying is
love us.
If we love us and did what the Jews did, buy into us and love us,
you see how the Jews control banking, media, entertainment.
They're in Beverly Hills, Miami.
We could do the same thing, but the problem with us is we're killing each other.
I want all the OGs and everybody from here on out,
I want this to be a love mission for each other. I don't give OGs and everybody from here on out, I want this to be a love
mission for each other. I don't
give a fuck who where you at.
My young niggas, I love y'all.
I ain't got shit like y'all ain't got
shit at the moment. So I'm with y'all.
Do not kill
the person that looks like you
because they going through the same shit
you do. I'm going to be the OG
of y'all niggas. I love y'all.
Y'all niggas need a voice.
But y'all are just confusing.
Y'all just been, do not kill, do not shoot the next nigga that looks like you.
Because they got a mother and father and we all from nothing.
This is a perfect way to end.
Public service announcement.
Taking the picture.
Taking the picture.
Yeah.
I don't need the claps. No, no, no. Taking the picture. Yeah. I don't need the claps.
No, no, no.
Taking the picture.
I'm going to take a piss.
No, yeah,
taking the piss in the picture.
Yeah, clap for me
taking the piss.
Piss in the picture.
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