Drink Champs - Episode 401 w/ Danny Brown

Episode Date: March 15, 2024

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs in this episode the champs chop it up with the one and only, Danny Brown! Danny shares his journey in music. Danny Brown shares stories of Nas, creating music,  going through rehab and much much more!  Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss! Make some noise for Danny Brown!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 🎉🎉🎉 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. legendary queens rapper hey hey it's your boy n-o-r-e he's a miami hip-hop pioneer one of his dj efn together they drink it up with some of the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source for drunk it's time for drink champs. Drink up, motherfucker. What it good be? Hope you're just winning. It's your boy, N-O-R-E. What up? It's DJ E-F-N.

And it's Militain with Crazy Raw. Happy hour. Drink Champs. Make something! Now, since 2012, but it says he's been active since 2003. He's says he's been active since 2003. He's a rapper's rapper. A man's man.

A fashion icon. I ain't going to lie. I seen him jump out the car just now. It's like, holy moly guacamole. It's like, that's Andre 3000 and ODB son together. They are. He's a legend, he's a classic. And he said one of the best statements I think I've ever heard in the past 10 years. He said, these young artists won't study the predecessors, the people that came before them, but they put on a pair of Jordans.

I thought that was the best way to describe this young generation. So in case you don't know what we're talking about, we're talking about the one, the only, impeccable, motherfucking Danny Brown! Now, I remember when you first came out, and I remember me gravitating towards you, and I remember me feeling like ODB energy, right? Was you a fan of ODB? Yeah, of course. Okay, okay, okay, so it makes sense. Yeah, definitely. I mean, when you said that, like, you hit the nail on the head.

ODB, Andre D. Allen. Yeah, hell yeah. Okay, now that's a big one for me. So, yeah, let's take us to the beginning. When did you start making music? On the internet When we googled It said 2012 But then it said you was active

Since 2003 Yeah So let's break it down For the people I mean you know I've My first time ever Rap was like kindergarten

You was a kid right? Yeah My dad took me to Fresh Fest Get the fuck out of here Yeah Fresh Fest Wow Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, Fresh Fest. Wow. Yeah, it was like LL.

He a famous DJ. It was like LL Cool J, Run DMC. And he said, I ain't even watched the concert. I just started mimicking everything they was doing on stage. Get out of here. And just started rapping. And then, like, maybe, like, you know, I was in kindergarten. So maybe, like, not too long after, it was like show and tell.

And I ain't had nothing to show or tell because I wasn't paying attention in class. So I just went up in front of the class and I rapped. And then all the kids was just like clap. They stood up and started clapping and shit. So I was like, damn, that's the only thing I'm good at. So I just kept it going, you know? Now, one thing, I'm going to be honest with you. Listening to your music, the one thing that I regret is that I didn't know you back then

because I wanted to take an ecstasy and hang out with you back then. I'm sorry, did I go too far? No, no. Because I'm listening to your music and it's like, you talk about E.E.

and I'm not going to lie to you. It seemed like you was a super fun guy. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, now, obviously,

I'm older now, man, so I've calmed down a lot, you know, but, you know, trial and error, you know, so and error You know So I had my fun The party's over now

The party's over The party's over now It's a different kind of party Yeah So describe Detroit Detroit Yes for us I mean

Detroit's hard man Detroit is hard I ain't gonna lie to you It was just real hard It wasn't really too many You know I grew up in the 90s So

It wasn't really too much It wasn't even like no outlets and nothing like that like even me for wanting to be a rapper you know it wasn't like i can go downtown and get a record deal it wasn't even like even with eminem being that big so so for people who don't know Like Detroit at one point Was the motor city right It was like And then

The factories Yeah I mean And then it just I remember I think I told this story before But I remember one time I was in Detroit

And I left the show And I remember me going like Back to the hotel And like for the Like The half of a mile Going back to the hotel and for the half of a mile going back to the hotel, no lights was out. I mean, no lights was on.

It was just pitch black and I was just like, holy shit. This is America. It's not like Baghdad or something. I don't know if Baghdad got lights or not. But describe people in Detroit. I mean, it's like a lot of people earlier you know, earlier in like the 60s and stuff,

because even like a lot of my family, they came from the South. So a lot of people was moving from the South to get those jobs to work at the big three, you know, Chrysler, GM, Ford, and all that. They were stable jobs. Yeah, like my grandma took care of my whole family just from one GM job, you know. Brought all her kids' houses, you know. So we was all raised up through that. So that was almost like the goal.

Right. You know, you live in Detroit. You just want to be able to get into one of those factories. But then they start taking all those jobs out, you know. And then, you know, like, white flight happened, you know. Yeah. Like, that's what a lot of people don't understand. Like, Michigan is great.

Right. You know, Detroit just fucked up. Wow. And even though- You know, Flint is fucked up, too. Yeah, Flint. You know, you still got, like, Pontiac, you know, Inkster, Detroit just fucked up. And even though- Flint is fucked up too. Yeah, Flint, you know, you still got like Pontiac,

you know, Inkster, Ypsilanti, like there's a lot of, but that's still like, you know, but like most people like in Michigan, it's like a lot of

nice places still to live, you know? Yeah. You'll get a big mansion for two million. Yeah, hell yeah. I've been thinking about it, I've been thinking about it,

but I don't like the cold. It's the weather, yeah. That's the only thing, you know, Michigan cold is different. As I got older, man, I've been thinking about it But I don't like the cold It's the weather Yeah That's the only thing You know Michigan cold Is different man As I got older man I can't take it no more So where you live now

In Hollywood I live in Austin Texas Austin Texas Oh shit it's hot Yeah Let's make some noise for you Yeah I mean they say

Keep Austin weird So I had to go Where the people love me man Hold on hold on I'm not gonna lie It's a music town Yeah yeah Are you the first black person

that I know that live in Austin? There's some niggas there. There's some niggas there. There's some niggas there, but... You know, I'm flipping around. Only two people that I knew that lived in Phoenix, Arizona was Ice-T and fucking DMX.

So you are now officially my Austin. Coochie Rap lives in Arizona too, right? Coochie Rap lives in Arizona. You are correct Coochie Rap lives in Arizona, you are correct. And Sammy the Bull, but we don't claim him. I don't think we should, right? I don't know. It's different. Tell my rappers right now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So let's talk about your relationship with Kendrick Lamar. Mm-hmm. You guys came up together, correct? Yeah, in some sense, yeah. Okay, let's break it down. I feel like he's probably got to start it a little bit before me. Like, I mean, you know, coming from Detroit and coming from L.A., that's two different worlds.

You know, you went to Hollywood, you know? Right. And just the West Coast alone, you know, just having that market. It's a big, you know, it's a bigger market, you know? And then I really don't really fit in anywhere. I'm not like the typical Detroit rapper, you know? Oh, okay, okay. You fit into the Detroit rapper. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, like, just with Midwest music in general. So, I

just really didn't fit in anywhere. But, yeah, we always just being fans of each other, you know? I feel like K-Dawg, yeah, he's like one of the best rappers ever, you know? Yeah, and so are you, brother. Thank you. Thank you. Where did you pull your influences from that you think made you different than other artists that are coming out of your area?

Me, like my favorite rapper ever is Nas, you know, but I feel like you always start. You always when you start rapping, you know, you always just try to be who you like, you know. And so it was a long time where I was just trying to rap like him. But I started to discover like other hip hop that wasn't being played on the radio and stuff like that, you know? So I really got big into like, you know, the whole like Def Jux and like Rockus. What? So the underground, the backpack scene? But like one of my biggest influences is like Dizzy Rascal from the UK.

Oh, wow. So I got real heavy into like UK grime stuff because, you know, my dad was a house DJ. So I grew up around electronic music my whole life. Like we didn't even party to like top 40 rap when you went out in Detroit. We listened to like ghetto tech and like underground resistance and stuff like that. So I always grew up on like, you know, ass and titties and shit like that. That was my mixtapes, you know. So when I heard like Dizzy Rascal, it was like hearing that grime shit.

It was like electric, you know, people rapping rapping over more of electronic style beats and shit. I ain't never heard nothing like that before. So when I heard that, it was like a light bulb went off in my head. So I just was studying his shit and then just got more and more into other UK artists and shit, like The Streets and Kano. So UK definitely played a big role. It was even to the point where I couldn't buy those albums in Detroit. So I was coming out to New York, and that tower in Times Square,

they had a UK section. So I was like, I used to catch the Greyhound bus out here. I used to be working in Queens. And I used to catch the Greyhound bus, and as soon as I got off the bus, I would go raid the UK section and just grab mad CDs and shit. You know, that's what's unique about you is me and you share something that's very similar. You sound nothing like your favorite artist. My favorite artist is Granddaddy RU.

And if you listen to me, you cannot understand how is that my favorite artist, which lets me know that you, contrary to popular belief, you might have belonged in the 90s. Yeah, no, I definitely would say that. I mean, I didn't really get no traction like that until I was 30. But I would admit that in my 20s, you know, it was more so just rapping to try to get a record deal. I still didn't find myself yet. It didn't find myself yet right

it didn't start working to me until i stopped giving a fuck about what other people thought about my music you know that's what i like because because the most you know you play your shit for your friends and shit they'd be like man that shit sucks you know what i'm saying so you want a big shit that they like right but once i got you know because i started to realize like man the music i listen to ain't on tv or on the radio so i just started to Pull my influences from that And it's like You know it's one thing To be influenced from somebody

But you gotta remember That whole era Early 90s It was always about Not biting Right Exactly Which is I think

You kind of like did that It was like No he did One main percentage Right You couldn't bite You couldn't do that shit You're one of the most unique people

I've ever met Go ahead continue Yeah you couldn't bite You know what I'm saying Which I feel like That's what played a lot Into what's going on in hip hop now. It's all our faults. Right.

We say it all the time. We drop the ball. It's 90s generation. We do claim it. We drop the ball. Yeah, because it was that whole era you couldn't bite. Right. And then it got to the point where.

Go ahead and bite everything. You couldn't know. You couldn't be a player hater. So then people just started being like, yeah, you kind of suck, but I ain't going to say it. I ain't going to be no hater. Right. You know what I'm saying? So then you couldn't be a hater. You couldn't be a player hater So then people just started being like Yeah he kinda suck but I ain't gonna say I ain't gonna be no hater So then you couldn't be a hater you couldn't bite So now this is where we at now You know

Like the one of the most things I hate When you get like Somebody like a lyrical rapper or something But I don't listen to lyrical music You be like what the fuck you mean You just don't wanna hear nobody better than you You know I never heard a body that was like A fan of basketball be like, what the fuck you mean? You just don't want to hear nobody better than you. I never heard a body that was like a fan of basketball be like, I don't like the niggas that

dunk. I really love role players, man, that just hustle. That don't exist. I really love the bench players. You know what? Things are like that. Now, another thing

That I relate to you Is you was on an XXL cover Right And But you probably don't know And I'll reiterate it to you That first cover

Of artists being on The cover together You know who was on The very first one? I'm assuming you're going to say you. Of course I'm going to say you. Man. It was on The Source.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Elliot Wilson, I believe, did it on The Source. Elliot Wilson left The Source, went to XXL, and he started the freshman class. So I was on the cover when it wasn't even called the freshman class. Yeah, yeah. But looking at these people on the cover, can we read the people, names that was on the cover? I know Iggy is there.

Yeah, it was like Future. Future? Wow. Machine Gun Kelly. Why you not looking? You got it all in your head? All right, come on. You ain't that good.

Who? Machine Gun Kelly is on there. Yeah, Thompson. Iggy Azalea, who I like. I think Iggy's hard. Go ahead Kid Ink Who else?

Macklemore Macklemore Yo how does it feel? Well it was a great time What year was that? That was Yeah 2012

I mean it's cool To get a knowledge For something like that You know Right So it's just you know Everybody want to get Their props you know

Were y'all there together Yeah yeah We did the shoot together And stuff Freestyle and all that You got freestyled Yeah yeah But you know

It still was like I still was just like I just don't fit in You felt awkward In that photo shoot Yeah I just felt Just you know I don't know

Why you was high? Yeah, at that time, of course. But that's not what he means. But I just, I don't know. I just didn't really, but I was happy to get it, you know, but I was just like, man, you know, I couldn't believe it. It was like, dang, I don't know, you know. Is that your way of fitting in is not feeling like you fit in?

Um, I guess. I mean, I don't know. I just never really, I always just feel like I'm too old for the young niggas and too young for the old niggas. You know, I'm too black for the white niggas, too white for the black niggas. You know what I'm saying? It's like, so I just never really. I'm going to be honest. It makes a lot of sense.

I'm going to be honest with you I feel the same fucking way So I always say I'm too Puerto Rican For the Puerto Ricans And I'm too black For the blacks

Cause I'm half black And half Puerto Rican But Is that a defense mechanism? I mean yeah You gotta have that I believe it But I always still

I always looked at it like Shit these niggas Can't fuck with me On this rap shit though So I always had that Confidence about myself Like I still can rap Better than Shit these niggas can't Fuck with me on this rap shit So I always had that Confidence in myself Like I still can rap Better than all these niggas So I don't really give a fuck

You know Now I want to get to What I said in the intro I thought when I heard you Say that on the internet When you said I don't understand how These young guys

Will go buy Jordans But they won't go Yeah Cause my whole shit was Cause they always be like You know If it's newer it's better You just don't get it

Kind of shit You know But it's like Y'all niggas ain't wearing Lebrons You know what I'm saying And that's Nobody wears Steph Curry We love

We like Steph Curry I mean he's under armor You know what I'm saying Under armor We ain't fucking with the under armor I'm sorry Go to the night Switch your shit up Steph

I'm sorry At the end of underarm stuff I'm sorry Go to the diamond Switch your shit up Steph I'm sorry At the end of the day I still You know I don't want Nothing negative To be taken out of that You know

I just really wish That they would You know But it's all our fault too though Yeah I'm glad you You're claiming it The young niggas

Be feeling like niggas Is hating on them And it's like you know But they get I get old too So once they get old They gonna be hating On the young niggas too That's what stupid about age You know it's like you know But they get old too So once they get old They're going to be hating On their young niggas too

That's what stupid about age You know what's crazy The goal is to get old You know what's crazy I'm going I'm going to take claim To this one No older person

Ever reached out to me When I was in the game So I didn't feel obligated To reach out to any young person And by the way That is my fault I was supposed to be better I didn't feel obligated To reach out to any young person And by the way That is my fault I was supposed to be better Than the people

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I'm going to be I'm going to be I'm going to be I'm going to be I'm going to be I'm going to be I'm going to be I'm going to be It felt like that. So then I became the old nigga. I was like, oh, shit, I didn't even know that. See, I came in, but I didn't really come in until I was 30.

So I came in with a chip on my shoulder anyway. Like, shit, y'all niggas been fronting on me. I'm nice. You know what I'm saying? So I had a chip on my shoulder anyway. But I really do like, I mean, a lot of the shit the young niggas is doing is cool. Who you listening to? I listen to like a lot of Hyper Pop.

No, I don't really listen to. What is Hyper Pop? I don't know what that is. Like a Honey Gex and like Frost Children. I'm going to act like I know what you're talking about. No, I don't really listen to... What is Hyper Pop? Yeah, I don't know what that is. Like 100 Geeks and like Frost Children. I'm going to act like I know what you're talking about. No, we still don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

I think ever since I've been like, got like sober and shit, I just can't really listen to like a nigga talking about fucking my bitch and how much more money he got than me. I just don't want to hear that shit no more. I ain't going to shoot me. I'm like, I ain't got time for this shit no more. But I used to love that shit. But now it's just like I can't really hear That shit no more

You heard Ye Your new album Kanye Yeah Yeah I checked it out My homie JPEG on there So Yeah

But I can't say a lot Of mainstream stuff Like that really You know Tickle my fancy Okay I'll be an artist And we noticed

You got jeans On your Your jacket Yeah I mean That's a jean jacket that's a real jean jacket i'm a jean jacket guy but you took it to the fullest he said we're gonna make a real jean jacket put us on what is that um it's actually my homie done by doug he does like custom pieces for me and stuff so that is definitely that is the most unique shit i've ever saw i mean you

can actually unsnap this and zip these up and make pans out of it if you want. Oh, shit. What's his name? Dumb by Doug. He's in LA. Dumb by Doug? Shout out Dumb by Doug. He making Transformer clothes.

Yeah, yeah. He with that sewing machine, man. He with that sewing machine. So what made you want to get sober? Oh, I was just fucking up. I was just fucking up. I mean, after a while, you know, you're doing this shit for so long. You know, a lot of people don't really realize the root of it.

You know, you start getting fucked up. It started out for fun. You're just having fun with it. But then you find yourself fucking doing blow, getting drunk, drinking a fifth a day by yourself. And you're like, why am I really doing this? You know? What about the blow part? I got this you know so how do you and and by the way I admire

you you know I mean congratulations on the surprise I mean it's almost been a year so I'm still a baby in it but you know so I'm not being too overconfident right right why I just still take it day by day because it's to each his own But I want to ask you Like Cause for people Who probably need What you went through

How do you still have fun? I don't Really? I don't Man that's A lot of This is a guest Holy shit

Like I mean But I'm 42 years old The fun got to be done Or you gonna die You get what I'm saying? Like my fun was deadly You get what I'm saying? My fun was deadly. You get what I'm saying? I was like a living skydiver.

You know what I'm saying? You can't keep jumping out the plane every day. You got to do it every blue moon and be like, oh, I live it. I get why I'm living. You ever been to Columbia? Nah. That's what I'm saying.

It might be different if I was coming there right now. Ain't nothing but these fentanyl packs. Motherfuckers, they're dropping fucking with that shit now, you know? But I think it was getting that pure. This is Buddha? No, I ain't going to lie. I feel like Drake Chastity just got to go to Columbia. Just one trip and just get it out of our system.

I already went and I got it out of my system. I already went, and I got it out of my system. Let's go again. Let's go again. What's your favorite place that you've ever been to? My favorite place that I've ever been to, or just in general? In general, yeah. I mean, just being a fan of London, you know? Yeah, how was that, after you've been such a fan of the music?

No, just London. Okay. Shortage, you know? Yeah. How was that after you being such a fan of the music? No, just London. Okay. Shortage, you know? I mean, it's just, just being such a fan of the music, you know, and seeing,

you know, what, what makes them tick and just that whole, you know, so I, I just like being, but I, I like going places that I'm really like,

I used to take like, um, I call them like rapper vacations, you know, like any, any style of music that I was really into. I would just go out into the city and just try to see what makes them come up with that shit almost like you know like a backpacking adventure just go around like i went to like houston and just chilled out

there for a minute because i was just super into they shit so you didn't get a trail burger no that was way before trail burgers you know but just i hung out with paul wall you know okay and you know just yeah so I like taking Little trips like that Somewhere like New Orleans You know See the jazz scene And shit like that

You know Or even Nashville And just go fuck with Some country shit You know Cause I take influences From every genre of music And I just mix it

Into my shit I love that I love that I love that I can't There's certain music I can't fuck with Like what? I ain't gonna say it Oh okay I mean You ain't gonna There's certain music I can't fuck with Like what?

I ain't gonna say it Oh okay You ain't gonna get me In trouble I mean I feel like I feel like there's a lot of shit That I couldn't get into When I was a kid

But It's all about your ears maturing Like even something Like country music You're like man I don't get this shit But since I've been in Texas You know

It feels like everything Has hip hop in it now Like every genre Has a hip hop version of it I'd be liking that Old foundational shit though I like doing my homework Like that

But even now I find the beauty in country Now just You know When I was drinking Getting drunk Getting in the Uber Coming back

They playing some country shit You like Oh this nigga really Talking some gangster shit He gonna fuck this bitch up Country music is Country music is Gangster music on the floor

Yeah They be getting depressed And shit too And everybody cheats The girl cheats in country Right Everybody girl cheats in country Yeah. They be getting depressed and shit, too. And everybody cheats. The girl cheats in country. Right. Everybody girl cheats in country music.

And they always getting drunk on the song, too. Yeah, they be getting fucked up. Yeah, they be talking about guns. And whiskey, too. They be drinking hard shit. Yeah. What you like more, performing or making the record? I like making the record more. I'm more of a writer than I am anything.

The writing aspect is what I'm in. That's why these motherfuckers be talking about, like, man, I don't be writing. I'm like, motherfucker, because you can't read. You know what I'm saying? That's why. Y'all niggas ain't been to school. These niggas are dumb. There's a lot of dumb rappers, though.

You know? These niggas don't write because they can't read. But I like the writing part, man, because's nothing better than You know you write a song And you record that shit And you just keep playing it back You're like Well I'm about to kill These niggas with this shit

And you just get that vibe And then you know You see the end Yeah you see the end result When you're on stage And you're like I knew I was right This shit fire

You know So I like that part More than anything It's like knowing Like trusting your instinct Like man I know I got some shit You know what I'm saying

Has it Have it been a time That you were wrong on a record All the time It's like knowing, like trusting your instinct. Like, man, I know I got some shit. You know what I'm saying? Has it been a time that you were wrong on the record? All the time. All the time. Because I got a way more mature ear than an average listener. Right. So the shit that I can make and be like, oh, this shit crazy. You know what I'm saying?

But the good thing about that is that I make shit that I feel like it stands the test of time, you know? Right. So shit could be like 10 years later, you hear that shit and you're like, oh, this shit still kind of crazy now, you know? So it's all about just not trying to make something just so trendy and just getting caught up and just making my own shit, you know? That's why I don't really feel like none of my music really aged like that, you know? Let's talk about, you got your own show. Yeah. The Danny Brown Show.

Yeah, the Danny Brown show What made you do that? I was just Friends with Tom Segura And He sounds rich Yeah he definitely is rich But

Are you guys doing it together? No I'm on his network Oh dope So I did his podcast And then he just was He always We used to talk on the phone And stuff

He's always telling me Like man you need to do Your own podcast man Your personality is crazy And I was like man You know Anybody can just set a camera Up in their fucking room

And start talking shit Which everybody does now But I was like I liked the way they work And you know They got a high production value And shit So I was like

Is that the guy from Fool's Gold No that's 8-Track That's 8-Track That's Brett Tomey man The comedian Tom Segura That's how you got on

Rogan through him Yeah yeah yeah So I was just like You know I'd do it If I do it with y'all You know And then You know I was dating

A girl in Austin So I was going out there A lot Seeing her And then he told me He was moving to Austin So I was like Fuck it

I'm moving to Austin too How did you guys connect And we put it together I had Just being a fan of his show So you know He reached out to me Had me on show, and I did good on there. He was like, man, you funny, man.

You should do this shit. And then, you know, they always tell me I need to be doing comedy and shit, but, you know, I'm still. Yeah, because comedians be doing music. Yeah, but. That's why we can't. I don't like sucking at shit, you know. How many comedians in music? Where'd you get that from?

Jamie Foxx, brother. Got one. That's enough. I mean, at Murphy. At Murphy, at party all the? Jamie Foxx, brother. Got one? That's enough. I mean, at Murphy, we had a party all the time. Yeah, a party all the time. That's enough. That's enough.

But you know comedy, man, you're going to have to bomb for like 10 years, man. I bombed 10 years in rap. I ain't trying to go through that turmoil again. But T.I. doing great. Yeah, T.I. doing great.

Yeah, he's doing great. I ain't going to lie. I mean, but he just talk funny anyway. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's going to lie. I mean, but he just talk funny anyway. You know what I'm saying? Like, he can say normal shit and it'll be funny. And nobody don't understand because, you know, he uses so much big words. You just laugh anyway.

Yeah, that shit is going to be funny. Because you don't understand what word he just used. That was hard. So, I mean, but the thing is about comedy, ain't no ageism in that. So, if I decide to do it when I'm 50, you know, that'd be one thing. But right now. So, you're going to try and do this to end the problem? Oh, yeah, definitely.

I mean, I feel like you got to... When I got, like, these top-tier motherfuckers keep coming to me like, man, you funny as fuck. You need to do comedy. You need to do comedy, you know? So you can't keep having motherfuckers that do that shit tell you

you need to be doing that shit and just not take their advice, you know? I was at Dave Chappelle yesterday, and I was telling him how happy I was that comedy is in a turmoil right now. I was like, I just want to prove to the world that not only rappers beef. I was like, I like that you can be beefy. No, them motherfuckers always be beefy though.

You get it? You going to? No, it was behind the scenes. Yeah, yeah. You being in the green room. I was laughing at Dave. It's way in front of the scenes now. He was like, yo, what's wrong with you and Fat Joe?

I was like, I like comedians I'm beefing Fuck that Y'all go guard each other And Dave was laughing at me But I like that Yeah it's always Competition with them You be in them

Green rooms man Them motherfuckers Always talking shit About each other So this ain't nothing new So if you was to host A comedy show Where would you hold it at

If I was to host A comedy show I mean to do Your own comedy show Your first stand Where would you want to do it at I was the host of comedy shows? I mean Do your own comedy show Your first stand Where would you want to do it at? I mean obviously Austin Because that's where it's cracking at You know

They obviously have Detroit? I thought you would have said Detroit Detroit's a different type of comedy You know I mean They're going to heckle you and shit man Them niggas don't know how to act

You know In Austin They're going to have a little respect You know They know you're just trying to work it out They know you're trying to work it out You know Austin Austin They're trying to throw a little respect. They know you're just trying to work it out. They know you're trying to work it out. You know, Austin is trying to go throw some shit at me. Yeah, nigga, you suck.

Nigga, get the fuck out of here, you know? So I ain't got time for that. I ain't going to lie to you too often. I ain't going to lie to you. Everything you just said. Can I get another drink, Jamie? Holy moly. Austin is having like a comedy renaissance right now.

You know, everybody's moving There to do comedy I'm not gonna lie to you You go out every night You seeing crazy shit You know Every time I went to Austin My sneakers came back Back

You never want You never want to go to South by Southwest No I don't want to Because my sneakers They always step on my sneakers I actually wore some Deadstock foam posits one time

And the sole came off Because it was so hot I was like, fuck, that's why you can't be wearing these 1998 sneakers. You know what I'm saying? It's the best year of my life, 1998. It's my favorite year of my life, 1998. Okay, moving

on. Let me get to my... Give them the flowers, man. Oh, yes. Our show is about giving people their flowers. Why they can smell them, their thoughts, where they can think them, and their drinks, where they can drink them. So we wanted to give you face-to-face man-to- their flowers. Why they can smell them, their thoughts where they can think them, and their drinks where they can drink them. So we wanted to give you face-to-face man-to-man flowers.

Yeah, man. Thank you so much. Snoop Dogg said it's better than a Grammy because it comes from his own people. I ain't going to lie, you rode the shit out of this.

This is a good blunt right here. But no, Noreen, motherfuckers need to give you your flowers too, man. It's your day, my brother. Let me just say something. I'm going to tell you, man, you It's your day my brother I'm gonna tell you You changed a lot of shit man

When you first came around You changed the whole perception of what a New York rapper could be Everybody thought Even though I hate that term lyrical miracle shit But you came in with a whole different perspective I feel like you was the first nigga with ad libs You know what I'm saying You can see a lot of Noreen

They come behind me And guess what I'm saying? You can see a lot of Norian hip hop right now. You Gucci Mane and Jeezy, they come behind me. That's a fact. And guess what? I brung Pharrell. I brung all of y'all godfathers. Because Pharrell has a whole generation of people. 100%.

And I'm very proud of Pharrell. Even though I don't, and I brung Swiss Beasts too and Scott Storch, but I don't exactly love the cowboy gear. No, I fuck with the cowboy shit I mean, me, me personally

I was in Texas, you know Everything, you in Austin You gotta wear something I was wearing the cowboy shit for a minute You was wearing the cowboy shit? But then them cartel niggas started pulling up on me Like, man, who you work with? I'm like, oh shit, this shit dangerous

You like, I'm a nigga? Yeah, this is like gangbanging I had to stop that shit I just thought it looked cool Oh, you know, go deep, man I was like, I had to stop doing that shit That thought it looked cool Oh you know Goldie man I was like I had to stop doing that shit That's crazy Yeah

Hell yeah Holy moly I didn't tell you He fucked me up just now They like Why this nigga wearing This cowboy shit everywhere Who you work with

I'm like shit nigga I just thought it looked cool Yo Hip hop I know it sounds like a cliche question But I'm going to ask Do you ever think hip-hop would be

As big as it is? You said you're 42 You're around Yeah I mean Is it though? Like I feel like we take It's like a

One step forward Two steps back Kind of thing You know Nah Financially it it's huge. But could it be better? But they always putting the money in the wrong pockets, you know?

Because you know what? You know what? I even look at Afro beats and reggaeton. I all look at it as versions of hip hop. Yeah, I mean, as far as the influence, then yeah. I mean, but niggas is always cool, you know? So they always going to bite the shit. I mean, you knowas is always cool You know So they always Gonna bite the shit I mean you know

But I don't know man I think I just wish it was more Emphasis on creativity Than anything else You know Like

Cause right now It's just like Copy and paste You know You see some shit work You're like Alright I'm doing that shit too Then it work

And then niggas don't even You know I need to be more Gatekeeping around this Motherfucker When you have the regions Losing their sound That's a problem Yeah Like alright I'm doing that shit too Then it worked And then niggas don't even You know I need to be more gatekeeping Around this motherfucker Yeah when When you have the regions Losing their sound

That's a problem Yeah Everybody look the same Everybody talk the same You know what You can hear the same sound here And go to Asia And hear the same sound

You know I gotta I gotta agree with you In totality Um There was an era in New York Where New York was trying to sound Like the South And I could not stand it

I could not stand it I just I even did it I mean but you still got certain places I'm so disappointed in myself There's still certain places that stick to their guns Like you go to like Louisiana Or like you know

Memphis You know they still gonna do they shit You know But But on a large scale To be honest That's just the internet though The internet just made

The world smaller you know Right And it brought a lot of people Who probably wouldn't have been Artists into the fold Yeah A lot of motherfuckers Don't even know why they rap

You get what I'm saying They just like Fuck it man This shit cool I'ma do this shit Just like how everybody's An influencer now Everybody was a rapper

At one point And that's the same thing It continues that cycle Yeah I remember Being a rapper was cool. Now being a rapper is like, so? Yeah. Like, I remember I could get pulled over and say, I'm a rapper.

I'm almost embarrassed to say it. Yeah, I want to say I'm a drug dealer at some point. Like, if the police pulled me over, I'd say, I sell drugs. Yeah, like. I don't want to say I'm a rapper. They're like, all right, pull you over. If you say you're a drug dealer, it's like, good. Because it's almost a thing.

Like, if you got to tell somebody you're a rapper, are you really a rapper To pull you over If you say you're drunk It's like Cause it's almost a thing Like if you gotta tell somebody You're a rapper Are you really a rapper? Are you really a rapper? They should have known you already Yeah Like so You know

It's just like one of those things But to be honest I still I do like the fact Cause as a person That took me so long To get into it You know

How easy I'm not saying it's easy But You know You can make some shit And the people fuck with it You own You know how easy, and I'm not saying it's easy, but you know you can make some shit. And the people fuck with it, you own, you know? So you ain't got to go through all these pipelines and shit like that, how it used to be before, you know? Right.

So I do like that part of it, you know? All right. I'll tell you, I'll tell you, I come from the era where I'm 46 I come from the era where You couldn't get to London Unless you brung London your record There was no email There was no like

You couldn't break into it In order to break into a country A city, a town You had to actually physically be there So nowadays you could just You could just literally press one button, and that shit would be in London. That shit would be in Japan.

That shit would be in Düsseldorf, Germany. What do you think about that? I mean, I love that in some sense because, like, me, a person that wanted to do a particular style and, you know, had this idea in my head, and I was able to work with like a London producer, shout out to Paul White. I worked with him

for like 10 years before I even met him. Wow. You know? Wait, you worked with him before you met him? Yeah, just emails. Oh, okay.

He just sent me a pack of beats and we did like, you know, he on every album I've made since I've been around, you know, so just being able to connect with somebody

that I still felt like we had that same ear with music, you know, more just being able to connect with somebody that I still felt like we had that same ear with music, you know, more so than me just having to work with a motherfucker that's around the corner from me that, you know, couldn't even understand the type of shit that I'm into, you know? So for that part, yeah, it definitely helped make my music better.

But that's different from what you're saying because the network is dope that you can network with anybody around the world. That's beautiful. And create those connections and relationships. What you're saying about setting the record, the same time that one record that's being pressed and it's going across the world, there's a million records at the same time going across the world. And it's different from building relationships to just trying to get it out to people. Right.

It's oversaturated. Yeah, I agree. That's what I'm saying. What I was saying is the good part of that. Right. And I think that's Kind of the bad part The good part is The relationship building

Being able to talk to Anybody around the world And connect Now we always talk about This on the show Is in the 90s We couldn't send people emails We couldn't

What we had to do was We had to bring A two inch rail To your studio session Do you think the music Is better because People were in the studio together as opposed to people sending features?

I think the music was better because limitations breed creativity. And now you can fucking, everything is just so easy to do. Even just like the drum machines motherfuckers got now. The type of shit Dilla was doing or

Primo and all them Type of motherfuckers You know the type of beats They was making back then Man They was really having to be Like scientists Like real like genius To be making these

Fucking beats And now You know you can just Fucking get fucking VSTs and plugins And you know And just do shit Oh yeah

All that shit is just Right there for you For the take it man So I think limitations Breed creativity So the type of shit Motherfuckers Like imagine them

Bomb squad beats And shit like that And the shit like Beasties was doing And shit You know The layers of music That they were putting together

Like motherfuckers Ain't even working that hard To make no music You know what I'm saying And the way they had to do it Back then Yeah Analog style

They ain't putting that much work in You know And then you Just the point of Having studio time Now motherfuckers Record shit in their bedrooms You know That's time Now motherfuckers Record shit in their Bedrooms you know

That's why these Motherfuckers Don't write I mean don't write You know Before you had That shit You know

You recording on the tape You had to fuck up You know you gotta Do the whole verse back It wasn't no punching in And all that shit man So to be a rapper Is way easier now

Right You know What do you Fabulous and Nas Have in common What do me Nas, Fabulous, and Nas have in common? What do me, Nas, and Fabulous have in common?

I mean, I wouldn't know. Got your teeth fixed. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Damn, man. You got me. Killed that.

You got me. Killed that. You got me. Killed that. What made you do that? I mean, what was the health thing? That was like,

kind of like, your signature. Yeah. Like, when people saw you, you had the missing tooth. Yeah. And it was similar to Nas.

I remember Chip Too Smile. He even said it in a record. And Fab the same way. So what made you say, you know what? It was really a health thing because I didn't have those top teeth for so long. You know, you constantly biting shit. Your bottom is working way harder than your tops. And your bottoms don't supposed to be biting shit

You know what I'm saying So my dentist was telling me Like man you about to lose Your whole fucking bottom row You keep going like this man You gotta do You gotta get you some chompers Up in that motherfucker man

So I just had to do it man You know You happy with him I mean It is what it is I mean I can honestly say

I mean I guess I was gonna do something For your motherfucker self esteem It was a time in my life You know you walk up on a bitch They be like You know Might get a little flavor

As soon as I talk They be like Damn why You know so She said damn Yeah Like damn Started trying to say

Gangsta shit like I got pistol whooped You know In the streets Motherfucker just Came down on a rebound wrong Elbow be in the mouth You know

He got a star Yeah that's how I look But then I got hit I got hit by a car Oh wow In the KFC parking lot KFC sent this man a check KFC sent this man a check

You know He done sacrificed For your chicken wings You know For your thighs But yeah Original or Aspen Krispy I'm an original guy

I'm original too. Yeah. But yeah, it just was a health thing. I mean, you know. And you got it. So now, one thing about you. Hair color changes. Sometimes we see you were green.

Sometimes we see you were blonde. Sometimes we... It's just... What is this? Do you have a hairstylist? Or this is you? Are you your own stylist? Yeah, in some sense.

Yes. But I don't know. I just think a lot of people, they just get caught up. Why? I think a lot of people be scared. They look in the mirror and they just be happy with what they see. Maybe I'm not happy with what I see all the time. Like, I need to change this shit up.

So I never keep the same hairstyle. Some people think I got a personality disorder or something, man. I'm never happy with myself, so I've always tried to fix some shit. But no, I just, you know, a lot of people just get comfortable with the way they look. I just think I'm never really comfortable. Or I'm just not scared to take

chances, you know? I think that's what's unique about you. Is the weed fucking you know? Nah, I think, I think, um, that's what's unique about you. Is the weed fucking you up? Nah. Okay, you sure? I love weed, man. I just can't smoke it, man. You got your own weed, right? Nah, I wish. I thought you got your vapor. Nah, man. I mean,

I, I, I, when I went to rehab, it wasn't no intentions on me to stop smoking weed, you know, because I love the weed, but I just had to realize, man, my weed bone connected to my drinking bone. My drinking bone connected to my coke bone had to realize Man My weed bone Connected to my drinking bone My drinking bone Connected to my coke bone You know

My coke bone Connected to my dick bone And it's just It's just a gateway For everything So I ain't gonna lie I felt like that was the hook

I feel like we're gonna Make a record out of that You know So I just had to Give up everything I even quit smoking cigarettes Man And I was a

Newport pack a day You know Oh Man I ain't gonna lie He was one of those Just like you Yeah Hey Camote I just had to give up everything. I even quit smoking cigarettes, man. I was a Newport pack a day, you know? Oh, man. I ain't going to lie. He was one of those, just like you. Yeah. You know, I had a Newport. Yeah, I know, man.

I know. I'm going to be honest with you. That was probably the most ignorant thing I've ever done, right? Yeah, yeah. And I'm going to tell you something, because it really held Newport. So I went in the elevator and I'm with this rich white lady that, by the way,

we still live in the same facility. And I get in the elevator and she looks at it. She's like, she's disgusting. And I'm like, without no like knowledge, I just opened it up

and I grab a cigarette out and I put it in and she was like, you should have never gave you niggas money. That's exactly what they said when I was saying it. That's exactly what they said.

And I was the most ignorant. You know how they say, you ever spend, like, dumb money? That was probably the dumbest money I've ever spent in my life. It was dope, though.

It was hilarious. I ain't gonna lie, I killed it. I had the number one rapper's name It was dope, though. It was hilarious. I ain't gonna lie. I killed it. Yeah, yeah. You body that shit. I had the number one rapper chain at the time. Yeah.

At the time. At the time. You in the jury? I'm more of a watch guy. Which watches are you into? I always, you know, wanted like, I used to be really into

like vintage Rolexes. Vintage? Yeah, like, you know, like I used to get like, you know, like I Vintage Yeah like you know Like I used to get like You know like I was really into Like collecting You know if you

Like certain Businesses Like Domino's You work at Domino's Yeah like shit like that So I was like Shit like that

But then I just started To realize that You can't even go to The Rolex store And buy a Rolex They won't sell No niggas no Rolex You know what I'm saying

So it's like Most of these niggas Just wearing second hand Rolexes So then I just Stopped being in the Rolex store And buy a Rolex They won't sell No niggas no Rolex You know what I'm saying So it's like Most of these niggas Just wearing second hand Rolexes So then I just Stopped being in the Rolexes And just So now I'm more of a Breitling guy

Breitling okay Cause I understand I mean you gonna watch that Do some shit Breitling's really for pilots Going to wars and shit You know what I'm saying You can't die

With a Breitling on They'll find you Yeah So I like Breitling's now Like Tag Heuers Okay wow You know More into those Types of watches now Okay Yeah I ain't gonna lie on. They'll find you. Yeah. So I like Brightlands now, like Tag Hewers. Okay, wow. More into those type of watches now. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

I'm trying to get into Grand Seiko. I'm trying to go to Japan. Yeah. That's where this interview should have been. We should have interviewed you in Japan. I've never been to Japan, man. You've never been to Japan? I mean, I always used to look at those places like I ain't want to go because I couldn't smoke. But now since I'm sober, I'm like, I'm with it.

So I turned down a lot of shit just because I couldn't smoke weed. Yeah, hang on. Yeah, dude. There's not a lot of weed in Japan. I didn't even look at it like that. You know what was what in Japan? For damn near a month,

8 Ball and MJG. It was Capone and Noriega and 8 Ball and MJG did a fucking tour in Japan for a whole month and Instagram was not. So we actually have no like, we we got, like, two pictures. Right, like, no proof of it.

Yeah, there's no proof of it. But 8Ball and MJG, obviously, no. And we want to give the invitation to 8Ball and MJG, man. Absolutely. Hey, legends, man. Coming out hard. But I'm going to be honest with you. I was always, you know, pause, attracted to you because to me, you have what ODB has had. And what I'm saying about that is like, it's like the I don't give a fuck attitude, right?

It's like you fuck with me or you don't. And guess what? I'm okay with that. Yeah. And that to me is dope because most people want people to fuck with them. Is that something that you did or you plotted or that's something that just came? Yeah, consciously. Or that's something that just comes with it?

I think this shit that just happens in your life will kind of make you like that. And like I said, I didn't really get started in this shit until I was like 30. By the end, I didn't give a fuck about what nobody thought. You know, after all this shit that I've been through to get to where I was at. So I think it's just more so about that. But even like you said, that could be a defense mechanism in some sense, too. Because everybody want people to like them, you know. You know, but it's just like, I don't know.

I just don't give a fuck. I just really, I like what I like and that's what it is, you know. I can't really, you know, I think that's the problem just don't give a fuck. I just really, I like what I like, and that's what it is. I can't really, I think that's the problem. That's not a problem. No, I'm saying people really care about what other people think and shit. Right. You know what I'm saying? And probably that's why I was probably drinking and shit and getting fucked up so much. Self-medicating.

As a way to fit in or feeling so awkward being in public and shit like that. You know? I mean, I wasn't comfortable with myself. Right. Type shit, you know? No, but that's what makes you, and again, because I'm 46 and you say you're 42, but you're still part of the younger generation, right?

Which is crazy, right? But it always seemed like you didn't want to co-sign. I mean, I did, though. Oh, I mean, I was with Yayo. OK. I feel like I love that. I read that. We got to talk about that. Yeah. Yayo was the first person that was in the Queen's studio. I mean, I was recording in Queens for years before. And then Yayo tried to sign you. No, Yayo was he's actually I mean, the engineer that worked at that studio, Shots Out the Doughboy, he had came to Detroit with Yeo when Yeo was shooting that Swap movie.

And they had, you know, they needed some weed and all that shit, you know, so they hit me up. And I came through and then he just like, you know, my man rapping shit too. And Yeo was like, let me see some shit. And I showed him my video, re-up, and he just blacked out. Did he try to sign you or 50 tried to sign you? I mean, he just was like. He brought him to 50. He just was like, man, you leaving with me now.

Like, I literally left with, he was like, go pack your shit. I left with Yale like the next day and shit. And I was with him for like, I mean, it was, I want to say like, I lived with with him for the whole summer kind of shit. That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. What would life be like if you think you were signed to 50 right now? I wouldn't be here right now. What would you be on, Joe?

No, I'd be like the rest of the motherfuckers that signed. What is that? I don't know what this means. Is that good or bad? Is that good? Yeah. I mean, he had a lot of artists in that side with him, man.

Nah, I ain't going to lie to you. I ain't talking about like the G-Unit members, but like the other motherfuckers, man. I ain't going to lie to you. You know, 50's first feature was me. His first two features was me and Componera Noriega. And for me to go from that,

to see him in Nice, France, I cried. I cried watching him and Busta Rhymes perform. And Busta called me, and I don't know if you guys know Busta. But Busta called me like, what the fuck you leave for? I was like, yo, I was overwhelmed. Like watching somebody like a sitter, you know, Busta, my brother. I mean, I seen 50 come up I was his first feature and to see that shit and to see every generation I'm talking about every race in Nice France it

was just so overwhelming for me I was just like yo I had to believe yeah you know what I mean like um because I'm proud of hip-hop are you proud of hip-hop like that? Yeah, definitely Okay Definitely What's your proudest moment in hip-hop? My proudest moment? I don't know I wouldn't say I've achieved it yet really I love that I would say I still got a lot of shit that I want to do, you know? I mean, you know, I feel like

I mean, just me being here To be able like that kid was in fucking kindergarten Like I want to be a rapper so me just making it in general I'm just proud of myself for that you know

yo god damn I love that shit God comes to you and God says Danny Brown I want you to make one record save your life other than this Danny Brown I want you to make one record.

Save your life. Other than this, Danny Brown, you're going to hell. I'm going to give you one producer, and I'm going to give you one feature. Who is the producer you're picking, and who is that feature? Anybody, dead or alive. You can pick Bob Marley at the grave.

I mean, the producer would probably be Jay Dilla. I love this. Motherfuckers, too hip-hop. So it would be probably, I'd probably have to go with Jay Dilla. I mean, if I had to pick a feature,

it would be, I wouldn't want a feature. I don't want shit. I'm saving my life. Fuck that. But if I got to pick a feature, I probably would have to be Nas because that's the one person that inspired me to want to do it, you know? All right. It's two things I lost saving my life. Fuck that. But if I got to pick a feature, it probably would have to be Nas because that's the one person

that inspired me to want to do it. It's two things I lost on you tonight. I bet that you would be on time. You was 15 minutes late throwing it out there. Oh, that wasn't my fault. I'm always on time. I'm always on time.

I bet that you would be on time. I lost. And I bet that the feature that you would pick, time I lost And I bet that The feature that you would pick Do you know which feature I thought I thought you would pick Beyonce For some reason

Oh I mean Of course you want to get that hook But Cause I felt like I felt like I don't know why I feel like

Danny Brown Featured Beyonce I mean I thought in my head I was like oh yeah I do need that hook man I gotta get that Who wouldn't want that You gotta get That heavenly voice on the hook But I mean At saw it in my head I was like oh yeah I do need that hook man I gotta get that Who wouldn't want that Who wouldn't want

You gotta get that That heavenly voice on the hook But I mean at the end of the day man Like I said Nas was like I so dope The one rapper that I was just like Fuck I would never be this good You know

That just humble you Type shit you know And then to see what How he's still doing it now Right it's incredible yeah That inspires me Like I can't I can't stop

I gotta keep going No matter what man Like Cause at the end of the day I look at it like You know I'm like a vessel Right You know

I don't know how I come up With this shit You know This is A God given talent So when God decides When this shit stop I can't never say I quit

I can't never say I give up Right You ever met Nas? Yeah Okay where at? The Scriber C.D. And how did you act Yeah. Okay, where at? Describe the scene to me. And how did you act? Did you fan out?

I think I bugged him out because I was talking about doing coke and shit. He was like, these young niggas crack heads. He was like, these young niggas crack heads. Yo, don't knock. He was like,

describe the situation, please. It was at Mass Appeal. Mass Appeal office in New York. Okay. Okay. Go ahead. What happened? We was like. All right, describe the situation, please. It was at Mass Appeal. A Mass Appeal office in New York. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Go ahead, what happened? We was just, you know, just kicking it. I mean, you know. And you just came up to him and said, you know, I do coke.

No, I, no. What did you do? What it was, his homie was with him. And he know, we know like some people together type shit, you know. Yeah, I was in the back. And he was like, yo, we went to Coachella. And I was like, oh yeah, I was in the back room together. And he was like, yo, we went to Coachella. And I was like, oh yeah, I was in that bitch doing coke. And it was just that kind of shit.

It was just, you know what it was, to be honest? I used to take so much fucking Adderall at that time. And if you take Adderall, you just talk too much. You don't really have no filter. Adderall was cocaine's cousin? Yeah, when you throw some liquor on it. I mean, it's really it's one Sonny, you an expert? It's like

it's like one property Don't act like you don't know nothing. You better relax. To be honest, it's more closer to meth than anything. Adderall? Yeah, it's like one property away from meth, but when you drink with Adderall, it does turn into like coke. Okay, okay, I'm sorry. I just gotta ask.

You never did meth Fuck no Okay alright I mean shit All the fake molly I used to take I probably did Yeah

So many molly In meth Jason Good stuff with that molly I probably was doing In the states You know I didn't realize

Who real molly was To fucking going to Europe To Amsterdam No London London Really in London You know you get that Fucking crystal shit Out here and shit Out there They just gave me fucking going to Europe. To Amsterdam? No, London. London? Really in London. Because you know, you get that fucking crystal shit

out here and shit being out there. They just gave me a bag of powder. I'm like, what's this powder shit? Yeah, it's that EFN shit. And they gave me that powder shit and I fucking,

I licked my finger and hit that shit and they said, I know the whole bag dissolved. And I was like, what the fuck? So I just did all of it. What's the next thing you know?

I just did all of it and they came back to me like, man, you got some of that molly mind. I'm like, they call it mandy. You got some of that mandy mind. I'm like, shit, I did it. They're like, you did the whole ground mind. You're going to be fucked, man. And I was fucked up.

That was a great accident. I can't do a BK accident. I was trying. So you did the whole ground mind. I was like, yeah, man whole You did the whole Grime mind I was like Yeah man I thought I fucked it up Next thing I know

I just started going Cookie monster My eyes couldn't stay still Then there bit a hole In my lip I ain't gonna lie Cause this sounds So fucked up

I wish you was Still getting high This sounds so fucked up Cause I don't mean it like that I'm proud of you It's just I wish I was still getting high This stuff is so fucked up Cause I don't mean it like that Yeah I know what you mean I'm proud of you It's just I wish I could've hung out

With the older version of you At some point It was fun Yeah Or I would've got on your goddamn nerves You'd be like I can't take this shit

This nigga got his fucking shit I would've been cool with both Yeah I would've been cool with both So You being from Detroit We just had Benzino on our show. Mm-hmm.

Benzino and Eminem, I don't know what their problem. I don't get it. Who side are you on? I mean, I'm obviously going to ride with my city. I'm an Eminem guy anyway. I mean, you know. Yes. I respect that. Okay, moving on. I mean, I'm obviously going to ride with my city. I'm an M&M guy anyway. I mean, you know. Yes. I respect that. Yeah. Okay, moving on.

But I still remember the almighty RSO days. Yeah. Okay, okay. I know Benzino was more part of it than the source, you know. Ah, yeah, because we had a wild one. This is a wild one. Yeah, it's a crazy one. People think the trailer. The trailer's nothing. Nah, it's a tip of the iceberg. It's a wild one. It's a wild one. But it's dope that a trailer. The trailer's nothing. Nah, it's the tip of the iceberg.

It's a wild one, it's a wild one. But it's dope that he mentioned Almighty RSO. I know my shit, man. That's the thing. I feel like I'm a hip-hop historian, man. Yes, yes. Yes. Quick time?

Let's do quick time with Slav. Let's do it. Can you explain him? I love the show. I watch this show. I know what it is. I watch this shit every Saturday, man. You got to make somebody to drink for you.

Sonny, you drinking for him? Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. Look, Danny Brown, listen. You can look around the room. Who do you want to be your designated drinker? I mean, I wouldn't want to do that to nobody, you know? Yeah, you can. That's our trainer over there, too.

Tommy. To be honest. Tommy the trainer over there. You can have him be your designated drinker. I mean, whoever want to drink. That's what it is. Sonny D, Sonny D. All right, designated drinker. I mean, whoever want to drink. Let's let him drink, man. All right, sports champs.

Sports champs, Sonny D. But give Tommy a drink if Tommy want to drink. Okay. So he don't got to explain the rules because he said he don't. You know the rules, right? All right. I'll take a shot. Ready?

Yes. Tupac or DMX? Tupac. That was easy. And I mean, just because, you know, his influence of what he's done so far. I mean, you wouldn't get X without Pac. That's fucking, that was a great explanation. You know?

I mean, and plus this, with the message he was putting out there, you know, even though Pac was going wild and shit, but niggas ain't making no dear mamas now. Niggas ain't making no fucking Brenda's got a baby or none of that shit now. So, I mean, the closest we got is K-Dot, you know? Right. No dear mamas now Niggas ain't making No fucking Brenda's got a baby None of that shit now So I mean the closest we got Is K-Dot You know Just talking with that

Fucking social commentary And that messaging You know so I still I feel like Once a year I get a fucking Pac deep dive

Where I go back And then you find some shit Like recently I found The demo versions Of Machiavelli I was like Fuck This motherfucker

And then people be Fronting on Pac, man. Everybody be always talking about Pac wasn't lyrical and shit like that. You tripping, man. Pac was rapping motherfuckers under the table, man. Yeah, he was. He had wordplay. Like, it was just, he had it all, man.

He was a songwriter. Yeah, he was. Yep. Nas or Kiss? Nas. And that's just because Kiss ain't got no better album than Illmatic, you know? I think Kiss would say that.

If we go 16 for 16, I'm pretty sure Kiss would, you know, do his shit, but I mean, Nas just got that classic album, man. And to me, he got more than that. And Stillmatic. I mean, it was written, you know? I fucking love Godson. I fucking love the Dutch. I love Street Disciple. I love all that shit, man. I mean, it was written, you know. I fucking love God, son.

I fucking love the double street disciples. I love all that shit, man. Man, you from Queens. Lost Tapes was dopey. Yeah, the fucking original version of I Am. I love the fact that you're from Detroit and saying that, because that's exactly how I feel. Yeah.

I love that. I mean, ain't too many motherfuckers better than Nas, though. Ain't too many motherfuckers better than Nas. And that's my friend. Goddamn, this is my motherfucker. Kendrick or Cole? Kendrick. I mean,

he made the Pimple Butterfly, man. Yeah. And that was like, Is that the album with him, the van? No,

that's the one in front of the White House and shit. Oh, okay. In front of the White House and shit. But I mean,

that's just because, I mean, he just take it too far, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, anybody that put that much effort into fucking music, man, he just really take it. But he's just like, some motherfucker's just naturally gifted.

I feel like Cole worked hard to get where he at. He studied hard. He rapped hard. I feel like cuz was just born with that shit, man. You can't take that. Did you just say J. Cole? No, no. No, I feel like Cole, he did his 10,000 hours. You know what I'm saying?

With K-Dot, I feel like he just was born like that. Okay. So you picked Kendrick? Yeah, I picked K-Dot all day. Okay. Pharrell or Kanye? I got to go with my Filipinos, man. I'm going to go with Pharrell, man.

Pharrell's Filipino? Yeah, man. I'm sure. go with Pharrell, man. Pharrell's Filipino? Yeah, man. I'm sure. It makes sense to me. Yeah. You freestyled that. You made that up just now. Pharrell, I mean, that motherfucker's name is Williams.

He's a half Filipino. I'm Filipino, so I'll let you choose. Oh, man, he's Filipino. So he would know. Oh, no. Chad Williams is Filipino. Oh, well. Chad.

Chad. I got to go with my Filipinos, man. Wait a minute. Find out if Pharrell got it. No? Listen, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I was thinking if he is. Since. Wait, is it? Find out if Pharrell got it. No? Listen, I'm not. I was thinking if he is, he might have known more. I didn't know it was a Filipino in the crew, man.

So I'm going with my Filipinos, man. I love your racism. So you say the Neptune. Yeah, Neptune. I'm not going to lie. Hey, man, Pharrell, you might. I'm not hitting Pharrell. Pharrell is plugging me in with a Richard Millie.

So until he does that, I'm not going to bother him. I will not hit him. Pharrell is one of the greatest producers of all time. I would really love to work with him, man. You never worked with Pharrell? Fuck no. I can see that collaboration. Yeah, I can see it.

Yeah. He followed me on Twitter, so maybe. Yeah. So have you met Pharrell? I've seen him one time And I think I've probably weirded him out Because I couldn't stop following him around But it was by mistake

Wait, wait, wait How is that by mistake? Because he just had an aura around him, man I couldn't It was like a glow And I just I wasn't meaning to do it I just couldn't

I couldn't stop myself It was just like I just was drawn to the nigga, man I was like Everywhere he went I was like, shit I'm going there too Yeah, it was like I couldn't It was like a I don't know Like a Kendrick Spears or something, man I couldn't stop following the nigga, man. I was like, everywhere he went, I was like, shit, I'm going there too. You was telling to him? Yeah, it was like I couldn't,

it was like a, I don't know, like a Kendrick Spears or something, man. I couldn't stop following the nigga around. Oh my God. No. I'm going to be honest with you.

I said this earlier, but you keep it too real. I love that about you. I couldn't stop following the nigga, man. I know he's like, what the fuck is wrong with this nigga?

But I couldn't stop following the nigga, man. I can he's like, what the fuck is wrong with this nigga? But I couldn't stop following the nigga, babe. I can't lie to you. Keep it to real. I love that about you. But he actually is that guy. Like, you gravitate towards him. I couldn't stop. I wasn't doing it on purpose.

How about Andre 3000? Have you ever met him? I wish, I wish, man. Because I would love to have a conversation with him, man. I've learned so much from him. He's like the same thing with Nas, too. Right. It might have been like every time in my life when I was just talking like motherfuckers,

like I don't want to listen to motherfuckers lyrical and shit like that. There was a time in my life I just couldn't really listen to Dre because I was like, man, he's too good, man. I hate him. I don't want to listen to this shit, man. I'm not going to. If it was anybody that like, as much as I love Nas, if it was anybody I could be like, I wish I could rap like that, it would be him.

Andre. Mm-hmm. And you never met him? No. Damn. I ain't going to lie. I would pay people to see the moment you and Andre 3000 smack five. I would love, man.

I would love to be him, man. I feel like both of y'all are going to have on something crazy. It'll be a fashion statement for sure. I feel like it's going to be a GQ session with either one of y'all playing in it. Yeah, it definitely is a huge influence on me, man. And I swear to God,

this is where I feel like it's going to happen. Just roll with me with the rumor. They're going to be in Utah. Utah? With the Mormons Or Missouri It's going to be like a weird place

Yeah He's going to have on pink socks And you're going to have on Orange hair Orange hair I was trying to get orange For a minute So it's not

It's not too far off It's not too far off That's right Am I on point Yeah you might be on point You might be on point I can see me doing orange One day

Okay let's keep going Quick time slot Future or young thug Future That nigga said Told my mama I don't need a bed I'm sleeping on the floor

Ever since he said that I was like Oh no He said Touch mama He don't need a bed I'm sleeping on the floor I was like

You what God damn it I'm doing Cause niggas really Was like that man Wu-Tang or N.W.A Wu-Tang Damn He said that And I would think I mean to be honest You know Yeah it's just Wu-Tang or N.W.A.? Wu-Tang. Damn, he said that.

And I would think, I mean, to be honest, you know, yeah, it's just Wu-Tang, man, because, yeah, it's just Wu-Tang. I mean, in my head, I kind of feel like, you know, N.W.A., those two albums is kind of like, you know, better than like Wu albums in some sense. But I feel like a lot of N.W.A. shit was like a lot of like Bomb Squad influence shit. So it was like I had like. Did you say N.W.A.?

No, I don't. Maybe when Ice Cube left and he did the America's Most Wanted. No, I'm saying like, no, I feel like that first like straight out of Compton and all that shit. You think so? Kind of was like Bomb Squad type shit to me. Didn't Bomb Squad come after? No. After Ice Cube went to New York Didn't Bomb Squad come after? No. After Ice Cube went to New York?

No, no, no, no. That's why I met so much. That's Public Enemy. Yeah. So it would have been around the same time. That's why I met so much when Cube went over there. But I think, check what year Strata Compton came out. I mean, just me.

That's what kind of I hear. I don't hear that in the production, personally. I mean, the second album when they was, you know, niggas always getting into something and shit like that, that's when they got more on their West Coast shit, but... I do feel that they were like the same group from a different spectrum. Yeah, yeah. Public Enemy on this side of the spectrum

of N.W.A. But with Wu-Tang, I never heard nothing like that before in my life. Okay. You know, that's the reason why I'm saying that. What? Strata Compton? And what about Public Enemy's first? And so, let me ask you my favorite, Danny Brown, let me ask you my favorite argument on Dream Champs. He hates it, maybe.

I hate it. I think you hate it. Ice Cube or Biggie Smalls? I think, you know, it's easy to be like Biggie because a lot of motherfuckers Be Don't really remember like Cube And this whole shit But it's like

Biggie ain't have that much time You know Right Right And then Always One thing I always try to Think about is like

What was the message He was putting out To you know And Cube had a lot of Social commentary shit And this shit And a lot of shit you can learn from and just, you know?

So I'm going to have to pick Cube. You know? Are you happy? Y'all flipped that whole discussion. Yayo asked me who my favorite artist was and I said, I just happened to say Cube. And it was Yayo.

By the way, that's the quietest was and I said I just happened to say Q and you know I remember I seen that by the way that's the quietest I've ever been on Dream Champs is because I'm still up in the air that is a great fucking but don't get me wrong Biggie is still one of the best actors to do it you know especially coming from his age coming from his age

to me the argument would be who's better is Q or Scarface if you're going lyric for lyric that's, the argument would be who's better is Cube or Scarface. If you're going lyric for lyric, man. Yeah, that's the one I would be like, I can't really. That's a tough one. I can't really, you know. You would take a shot for that if you were still drinking. Nah, man, I'm saying Cube.

You're still saying? Yeah, because Cube was. Cube, man. Because Cube was talking about shit, man. Cube, wherever you at. Dude, when you put Stratocompton, Then you put America's Most Wanted Death Certificate Kill at Will Like that album run

And then never mind When he goes into movies And he does other things But like That album run right there Is crazy man And then it was just Totally like a representation

Of like Where they was from On the west coast and shit Like you listen to a Cube album You're like This is what LA This is that shit You know with Biggie

It was just like I wanted a Jerry girl Don't get me wrong Like Biggie had the bops He had the bangers And he was a lyrical Motherfucker too But

It was just like I still just gotta go back To what was the message He was putting out You know And I love the fact that It's territorial To a certain extent

Meaning That if you from New York I don't think Anyone Everyone from New York Will back Tony Ayo Yeah Anybody from the Midwest Or The West Coast Will also I don't think anyone from New York will back Tony Ayo. Yeah.

Anybody from the Midwest or the West Coast will also agree with EFN. But sometimes it is territorial, and then sometimes it's just preference. See, I'm in the middle from Detroit, so I can't pick a side. And Detroit is considered the Midwest, correct? Yeah. Okay. So I can't pick a side, you know? But I just always, when I try to rank emcees and shit, I just always be like, man, but what was the message, you know? Mm-hmm.

What was they trying to, I don't smoke. Okay, I'm trying. Like, what was they putting out, you know what I'm saying? And Cube, he just had a lot of social commentary in this shit. Mm-hmm. Let's go. Eminem or MGK? Come on, man.

Y'all trying to be funny now Yeah That's why I ain't asking I mean of course It's going to be M You know I mean We wouldn't get an MGK

If it wasn't for M Right You know No white boys coming around You know Yeah But for M like that You know

And I mean we had third base Third base Let's pick up Let's pick up MC Search Milk Bone Don't forget Milk Bone Was it Milk Bone?

Wasn't he from Michigan? I think Milk Bone was from Michigan Everlast Or Jersey or something Beastie Boys Even Vanilla Ice I've rolled on a plane From Vanilla Ice

We got his phone number He gave us a fake phone number Let's pick up Vanilla Ice Shout out to Vanilla Ice He did not want to do Drink Chance at all He was like Nah I ain't drinking It'd be dope to have Vanilla Ice My Shout out to Vanilla Ice. He did not want to drink Champs at all. He was like, nah, I ain't drinking.

It'd be dope to have Vanilla Ice on the bed. My favorite white boy rapper is LP, so. Oh, Killer Mike, LP? Yeah. Oh, hell yeah. Run the juice. I'm not going to lie, because if we just have his ear on, let me just say this. I did defend Eminem as much as I can.

But my favorite white rapper of all times is Eminem. I can't deny that at all. I can't, I can't, I can't. And, you know, Zeno's my brother. I love him. So Zeno kept, you know, baiting me. He was like, you really like Eminem? I'm like, yeah.

And, you know, he has his thing with him. But the thing about it is, I don't think I like Eminem because he's white. I like Eminem because I like Eminem Because he's white I like Eminem Because I like Eminem That's it Yeah Like that's it I

I I knew what he was trying to bait me Into doing But no It's not I like him Because he's white I like him because I like syllables

I like the way you put words together Fuck that I mean that's rappers Rappers type shit You know what I'm saying You understand how difficult it is to do what he do when you do this shit, you know?

Right. So that motherfucker be always trying to talk shit. Be like, man, we don't hear no Eminem in the club. Nigga, you still go to the club? Like, who's in the club? Or anything.

Like, you know, you hear Eminem at fucking football games and stadiums and shit like that. And then look on Spotify. Eminem is still like the number one fucking artist listened to on Spotify. At the end of the day,

no one can take what he's done for white boy rappers at the end of the day, man. It wouldn't be y'all niggas. Now it's so many fucking Eminem clones and this shit. And you know why I wanted to defend Eminem?

And it's not against Benzino, but I wanted to defend Eminem. It's because I hate when people say, yo, he's nice for a white guy No he was better than the niggas when he first came out That's the way he got cracking You know what they used to do He's nice for a Puerto Rican

What the fuck do you mean He's nice for a Latino So I didn't like that And then I realized white people Been going through that same shit For years He's nice for a white guy.

Nah, man. You got to be nice because you're nice. It's like saying, it's English. And by the way, I use the version nice. These young kids are like, what the fuck is this? Back in the 90s,

in the 90s, you'd say nice meant you were nice. You were ill. You were ill. Okay, moving on. Baby Face Ray or Skilla Baby? Oh, this is a Detroit shit. Yeah.

It might be a shot for this one. Okay. I'll take a shot. I'm going to take a shot because I'm going to say like... You want a shot? No, no. I'm saying this is a shot. This will be a shot. I'm going to take a shot because I'm going to say like... You want a shot? No, no. I'm saying this is a shot.

This will be a shot. I'm fucking with you. I like your sponsor over there. This will be the first shot. This will be the first shot. And the only reason because I'm going to say because Skillababy is like a real rapper. He could rap his ass off. Okay.

But I really love Babyface Ray Because he's representing The side of Detroit That motherfuckers Ain't really seen And what side is that? And that's just like Because a lot of people There's more people in Detroit

Like people come to Detroit Everybody try to be Too over gangster And you know Or you just super Backpacked out But it's just like Cool ass fly niggas

You know That just like to chill You know And be regular cool niggas And you know Be fresh and fuck with bitches You know And I feel like That chill, you know, and be regular cool niggas and, you know, be fresh and fuck with bitches, you know? And I feel like that side of Detroit never really been represented. And he coming through with that shit, man.

So, yeah, I'm going to say that's a shot on that one. But Skillet Baby is like, he's a dope rapper in the sense of like, he could have been cracking in any time period of Detroit rap type shit. Like, he literally could rap his ass off, you know? Okay, moving on. All right, Biz Markie or ODB? I mean, you don't get

an ODB without Biz Markie, but just because Biz Markie don't got a better album than Dirty's. So, I'm going to have to say Dirty

I can respect that Wait you said Bismarck You don't have a Better album man Than what? Than any of Dirty albums Up in the air I want to say this to the fans

Because I know they're going to kill me That is his But by the way I've never heard that before So I want to say this clearly on danny brown like please because i can't definitively defend that i can't can you look if it is confused no i can no i can see i can see you want to change something no that first odb album is so solid man yeah and i like nigga please, too, though.

You know? So, but I get it, you know, but you got to remember, man, Biz Markie came on. I was still like a kid, too, so my ear wasn't mature enough. You wasn't. You was Pickin' Boogers, man. Pickin' Boogers came on. But Biz is so important to the culture. Like, what he brought to the table was a game changer. Yeah.

This is a great conversation. Come here. Outkast or UGK? Take a shot No Relax Because Outkast album run Is crazy

You know It ain't too many people That got four albums Back to back like that You know UGK They really didn't have That much time

You know Damn They really just His knowledge of the game Is crazy You know They really just got them two Outkast got four So I I'm going to have to say,

I mean, the argument would have been hard if it was my deep OutKast. That's when I'm like, ah, I really can't really, you know, because they both got four to me. They tied. Okay. You got the next one? No, go ahead. This motherfucker's fucking me up with his asses

KRS-One or Rakim? I mean, KRS-One had more output And then it's gonna go back to the argument that I said What was the message you putting out? Now, we know Rakim is the guy And you know And he never cursed On a song-by-song basis, but

I mean, KRS-One is the teacher, though You know? So it's like I mean, I know Rakim is the type of shit But he stopped You know He didn't have that much output like KRS-One But don't get me wrong

I feel like I mean It's one song like Rakim got a better song than KRS-One ever made I feel like You know Like Don't Sweat the Technique I don't feel like

That's a great song Nothing is kind of better Than that shit Jews Know the Ledges Yeah Jews Know the Ledges All that shit But I just gotta pick

KRS-One just cause He's the teacher man Like I like that Just the message he put out You know But who knows You know Rakim the God

It's like We would've loved to see Five Rakim albums ghostface or rayquan ghostface man and don't get me wrong um i mean he just because ray i mean immobility kind of just like that derailed yeah that's where the argument got to be like it just with iron Man and Supreme Clientele alone is like the best back-to-back in the whole Wu-Tang, to be honest, you know?

So yeah, and Ghostface, that's somebody that I super looked up to. I got a Ghostface verse that I never used. It's on your beat, guys. Damn. Why are you looking at me like you don't know? Yeah. Well, can you pull up that fucking verse?

You don't think you got it. You a foul nigga. And it's the same thing like I was saying about Andre. Like, I wish I could rap like Ghostface, you know? Right. And Ghostface, I love this style, too. Like, even with the clothes and shit. Like, as far as fashion and shit.

You ever had Clarks? Hell yeah. I was dying them shits and all that shit. You died to Clarks. Okay. Fucking them up with the R.I.T. dial type of shit, like, as far as fashion and shit. You ever had Clarks? Hell yeah. I was dying them shits and all that shit. You died to Clarks. Okay. Fucking them up with the RIT dial, all that type of shit, man.

We used to put white, white shoe polish on the sole and turn it ice blue. God damn. We was doing all type of shit with the Clarks. This motherfucker's soul is crazy.

Continue. All right. Movies, Juice or Boys in the Hood? I'm like, I'm going back to the message. So, Boys in the Hood I'm like I'm going back to the message So Boys in the Hood Was more of like A social

Conscious movie Juice is really like A fucking nigga Horror movie You know what I'm saying You know Like this nigga Like Jason

Running around You know what I'm saying But with Boys in the Hood Just that whole shit You know Father Ricky Once Ricky died

We was out of it Yeah yeah But I gravitated To like the father Trying to steer his son On the right path And get him away From that shit

You know cause A lot of niggas Ain't grew up with dads And shit You know what I'm saying So I feel like That was like That speech he had

With his son You know what I'm saying Like my dad Ain't never had a sex talk With me I seen that shit Boys in the hood You know what I'm saying

Yeah Monique My dad ain't never had a sex talk with me. I've seen that shit, boys in the hood. You know what I'm saying? Monique? Or D.L. Hughley? Comedians? Yeah. Oh, I mean, D.L. Hughley. You know, but that's just because, you know, he do it more. You know, I mean, he's just more.

I mean, Monique is just more like on some acting shit. And, you know, you can't take that away from her, you know? But just as he's just more, I mean, Monique is just more like on some acting shit, and you know, you can't take that away from her, you know? But just as far as like getting on stage and shit, I mean, of course it's going to be D.O. Hughley. Okay. Next one. Primo or Dilla? Dilla, man. And I mean, only reason I'm going to say that is because I know a lot of people are always arguing

and shit about, but people got to understand, man, the shit that Dilla was doing, man, they still talk about and do shit to this day. Like, I was in fucking Sweetin' one time in like a fucking five-star restaurant, and they was playing fucking Slim Village instrumentals. You know what I'm saying? And just with him making that Donuts album,

that was pretty much like our version of jazz, you know? Right, right. Ain't nobody else got that shit like that. Like, you can't just make a fucking album and then it's talking to you through the music, through the beats. Like, he's doing so much shit, man. And he's home team for you. I mean, yeah, but even without that. Like, because, I mean, it was so long that I didn't even know that Dilla's shit was D-Trace shit.

When that shit first came out, like Tribe and all that shit, I was like, man, that's some New York shit. Right. You know, I always thought That shit was like New York shit Until I was like Older and shit And I was like Oh this shit really Some Detroit shit

You know cause I heard Slum Village when I was a kid But I was too immature To even understand that shit man I'm like these niggas Ain't shooting nobody Or nothing They ain't getting high

Or nothing man I can't get jiggy With this shit But then when I grew up You know I understood The genius in the music You know Right

Oh shit Yeah Podcast or radio? I mean podcast Re-answer I mean cause the radio Got too many rules Right

You gotta listen to what Another motherfucker tell you to do Or what you can't talk about And this and that And that and this Podcasting is fucking This nigga's going rogue You know what I'm saying

We don't follow no rules I don't know This nigga's going rogue You know They trying to put rules On everything podcast They've been trying over the years It's getting a little weird

Yeah cause you know Sponsors and shit coming And you know But I mean This is like one of the Illest mediums to be created Just to have We always looked at

A motherfucker like Nori as an entertaining Ass motherfucker So to be able to see have We always looked at A motherfucker like Nori as an entertaining As a motherfucker So to be able to see This motherfucker talk shit Every week is like That's a fucking blessing man God damn it

This motherfucker I love this motherfucker I ain't gonna lie I mean You know what's the Crazy shit Man You got hash in there

Yeah Just think of No love Yo I got hash Live red He got a bunch of shit love Yo I got hash Live red He got a bunch of shit in there He got a concoction

Let me tell you So many times I meet people That think they know me And this is probably One of the The first times That I think I know you

Okay You know what I mean Like I think I know you I know I think this is our first time meeting. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, it's our first time meeting. But me being a fan

of how you navigate through this industry, I feel like I know you. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So I see people that come up to me and they be like,

yo, episode 16, you know what I'm saying? I just look at them motherfuckers like, I don't know what the fuck, episode whatever. But they know me and that's? I just look at them motherfuckers like, I don't know what the fuck. Episode whatever. But they know me. And that's how I feel about you. Just in case you know that.

I mean, dog, I really feel like y'all raised me, man. Queens in general, man, raised me, dog. And Miami. And Kendall. They talking about the music. I'm talking about the music, man. I grew up like y'all. My dad had me at 16. You know what I'm saying? So I had a young ass pops. You know what I'm talking about the music, man. I grew up like y'all. My dad had me at 16.

You know what I'm saying? So I had a young ass pops. Your dad was busting nuts early. Yeah, he had four kids by the time he was 21. Let's make some noise for your dad. Your dad was out here ripping everything. Brand newbie in a Tribe Called Quest. Tribe Called Quest.

I mean, same shit. I mean, you know, I mean, shit I mean You know I mean Yeah Cause Tribe just It was just too much involved With them man You know And then you know

Q-Tip's like my big homie man Tribe is like You know That's like my mentors and shit You know what I'm saying So I can't go against the grain with that But I could

I could just really just Cause me I'm a rap nigga So you know You had Tip and Fife And Besides Puba man I really a rap nigga, so you know you had Tip and Phyfe. Besides Puba, man, I really... No, no, no.

I'll tell you a funny story about Phyfe, though. I said, Nori know this, and Nori know that. But Nori know Gap, because Nori bucked that. But I was giving respect to Bono this, and Bono that. And Bono know Jack, because both can rapo Jack, Waka, Boca and Rap. And Fife Dawg seen me. I kid you not. And he was like, I'm going to get you back.

I was like, what? I was like, yo, this is a big guy. And that's how much competitive person he was. You can tell with him because he was a rapping ass nigga. I took his line and made it better. As opposed to I was trying to big him up and I never got to

fix that situation so Fife died that's crazy though thinking like I was like oh Fife is going to diss me he thought you bit him

he no it wasn't he thought that you didn't think you was biting no he thought that I took his shit and I didn't like

kind of like bite him okay yeah yeah he was a guy old school rude I was like No, he thought that I took his shit and I didn't like, kind of like... Bite him. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, he still has the old school rules. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like... But I was telling him...

You took it like, and I did it better, right? And that's why you mad. He's like, no, you bit my shit. You know what? I'm going to let you ride with that. He could have took it like that. He could have.

But it was like in a respectful way. No, I'm sure he wasn't. It was respectful, but he was like, yo, Nori, I'm going to take one of your lines and I'm going to do the same exact shit. And I was like In a respectful way Nah I'm sure he wasn't Yeah I'm sure he wasn't But he was like Yo Nori I'ma take one of your lines And I'm going to Do the same exact shit And I was like

No you're a left And you're a right Like I was Showing respect And he was just like Uh uh That's them old school rules man That's how it was

But he was competitive If he was to ever do a versus Who would you Want to do a versus against? I don't know If anybody can do no versus with me. It had to be like, I don't know, man. I sit in my own class. A$AP Rocky?

Nah, he got fucking problems and all that shit. He got Drake songs. I can't get into that shit, man. He got to be like some real alternative rap shit. Like, you know? Killer Mike? Nah, man. He got fucking OutKast songs and shit, man.

Fuck, okay. LP? LP? He going to Mike? Nah, man. He got fucking outcast songs and shit, man. Fuck. Okay. LP? LP? He's going to bust my ass, man. Like, LP, like, he's done too much shit, man. He got fucking Cannibal Ock shit. He can start the, he a producer, you know? Right.

There's so much shit he done done producing-wise, man. So who would you want to go against? I wouldn't want to do that shit, man. You don't want to go against? I mean, fucking versus, yeah. I don't want to go against? I mean, fuck a versus. I don't fucking battle your ass with anything. Real battle.

Just get on the corner. No beat, no nothing. Then let's see who's going to win, you know? Fuck your songs. Who would you want to battle on the corner? I mean,

whoever think they want it. Let me, should I think of somebody? Space Ghost Perp I mean he a crazy Motherfucker man I wouldn't

I mean you know I'd take him to a therapist Before I do anything Joey Badass Man It's Who? Joey Badass? Nah man It's only two rappers I think fucking me like that And that's K-Dot

And Earl Sweatshirt So anybody else I'ma give them the business I like Earl Sweatshirt So anybody else They getting the business Anybody else Yeah

I mean besides the OGs Over me But my peer group And my class Yeah I think Any nigga from the XXL Couple could get it I mean that's the difference Over me But my peer group And my class Yeah I think Any nigga from the XXL couple Could get it I mean that's the difference

Machine Gun Kelly Could get it Action Bronson Action Bronson I mean like I said Skinny old fat Action Bronson Could get it

Action a bad motherfucker Though but Yeah But Freddie ain't my class Freddie was For me man You know And Freddie do

He bust ass though Every time I been on a song With him he got me so Why Freddie Gibbs Yeah That's big of you Every time I've been on a song with him, he got me, so. Why? Freddie Gibbs. Yeah. That's big of you to say. I know.

I mean, you rap, you know what's up, man. That's one thing I hate about these motherfuckers. You know where the motherfucker got you, you know? Okay. Mobb Deep or M.O.P.? Mobb Deep. And it's just, I mean, I feel like, like I say, Mobb to me got four. M.O.P. got two.

So, and I love the Warriors. The Warriors is like, you know. But I still even go to on like the beat making tip. Like Havoc is like one of my favorite producers ever, you know. And, you know, Fizzy get busy too though. But, you know, I just like Mob. Mob is like, and Prodigy is like one of my favorite rappers ever, you know. So. Fine. I'm always going to ride with Queens, I think, Mob. Mob is like, and Prodigy is like one of my favorite rappers ever, you know? So.

Fine. I'm always going to ride with Queens, I think, man. I respect you. That's why I'm moving on immediately. Let's go. Exhibit or Raz Kaz? West Coast. I think Raz Kaz is a better rapper, but Exhibit had a better album.

40 Days and 40 Nights is better. By the way, that video might be the best video. Yeah, that's one of the best rap videos ever. Yeah, Paparazzi. Not Paparazzi. Yeah, they shot it. They made it forward, but everything was happening backwards. But what I'm saying, I thought it was in one

take. One take. That's what I thought. Was it backwards? No, it's not backwards. I think you're confused. I'm sorry. It was one take.'s how I thought Was it backwards? No it's not backwards I think you get confused I'm sorry It was one take Oh yeah It was one take So yeah

I guess I'm saying Razzcast Cause he had Solo Night's remix Okay But Exhibit I'm gonna be honest Yeah it was the one take I'm gonna be honest I gotta say

The Exhibit has the best Video in hip hop history Nah that video is amazing And I don't know If it costed money Hell yeah that shit did You know It did?

I didn't know I didn't know But it costed money. Hell yeah, that shit did. You know what I mean? It did? I didn't know. I didn't know. But what I'm saying is the creativity part of him just walking through that one scene, I've never seen nothing that creative. You know it was crazy because they redid it with Jewel Santana video, and that was just as dope. So anytime you could just buy the video, and that shit still fires. Wow.

Wow. Okay. Next one, E. Scarfacer Cube. Really? That was on there for real? Yeah. See, next one, E. Scarface or Cube? Really? That was on there for real? Yeah. See, that's the one.

I got to take a shot? Yeah, you got to take a shot. It ain't no winners in that one, man. Bomb Squad or Organized Noise? Bomb Squad. Because you can't do that shit no more. You know what I'm saying? They fuck around and lock you up

trying to make them bomb squad beats, man. And you won't have organized noise without bomb squad? Is that not accurate? Organized noise to me is more like into the live instrumentation shit type shit too, though, you know? Not South.

Just live instrumentation. Yeah, just more of it like, you know, they was bringing in like guitarists and shit like that, you know? So I look at that as just like more live instrumentation. And I look at Bomb Squad as just like taking a hundred samples

and making one fucking beat out of it. You know what I'm saying? Goddamn. You can't do that shit no more. Nah, hell no. You get sued like a monk. You're going to jail. They're going to sue you.

They're just going to lock your ass up. They're going to skip past the suing. That's past suing a monk You going to jail They ain't going to sue you They just going to Lock your ass up They going to skip past the suit That's past the suit You just go to jail You do bomb squad beats What did I say LP get close Who I already asked that question

But I say LP That's what I think You know He make bomb squad shit Without doing all that Do you know Kanye Pharrell No

We asked that I told you I'm wearing my Filipinos Yeah You asked that You jumped ahead We did We did with I told you I'm wearing my Filipinos Yeah You asked that You jumped ahead We did We did with the Filipinos I made it up in my mind

I didn't even know it was there Man you good Yeah Gibbs or Schoolboy Q Ooh That might be a shot I'll take a shot That might be a shot

I can't Cause I can't They both Sitting they own right You know Like They both sitting They own right You know Like They both sitting They own right man

You know I can't even We have a schoolboy Q is He reached Reached out And Oh we would love

To have him on Yeah he'd be great I'm pretty sure He'd love to do this shit Q my homie Yeah Yeah Okay next one Naughty by nature Or lost boys Naughty by nature man Yeah, he'll be great. I'm pretty sure he'd love to do this shit. Cue my homie. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, yeah.

Okay, next one. Naughty by nature or Lost Boys? Naughty by nature, man. Trench rap better than Mr. Cheeks. I'm sorry I had to beat Queens on that one. Yeah. I got to mind my business on that one. They both my brothers. And you know what?

They would love to hear that You know Like they love that They love that I mean Tretches Come on man Tretches underrated I feel Tretches He's such a ill MC

I mean Tretches That's what you call Lyrical miracles You know Yes Tretches Tretches that dude Cannabis or Keith Murray

Keith Murray Big up Keith Murray? Keith Murray Big up Keith Murray Yeah, Keith Murray, man I mean, don't get me wrong I'm just saying Because Cannabis, when he came out Everybody was shaking in their boots Nah, yeah, he killed the day he came out

He had everybody scared Then the motherfucker His mixtape run was crazy It's just that album, though That Wyclef one That was kind of crazy With Cannabis Yeah, that Cannabis Cannabis That was kind of Even that album, though, that Wyclef one, that was kind of crazy. With cannabis. Yeah, that cannabis, Cannabis.

That was kind of, even that title, you know, and he got a lot of crazy lines. Eating ass like me and all that kind of shit. I'll eat your ass. Yeah. Like, some of that shit ain't bars no more. It was bars back then, but now it's like. Big up cannabis somewhere. And then he had that battle when he ripped his notepad out

Like you know That was too crazy But Cannabis Wherever you at He said that Me and you Didn't send him a car service Nah

I talked to him I mean It hasn't been Lately but We need to have him on the show man But I feel like He was a game changer When he came out

I feel like Keith Murray music Still detests the time though Like you listen to something That Keith Murray shit And you like fuck time, though. Like, you listen to some of that Keith Murray shit and you like, fuck. You know what I'm saying? Most beautifulest thing

in the world. Like, some of that shit is crazy, man. It's just like that. And ain't nobody never did that shit since, like, he had it. He said it in his own right.

That was a solid album, too. That album. Ain't nobody, like, rapping like Keith Murray. We ain't never heard nobody be like, oh, he rapped like Keith Murray. Ain't nobody ever said that shit. You know what I'm saying? Keith Murray can't even rap like Keith Murray. We ain't never heard nobody be like, oh, he rapped like Keith Murray. Ain't nobody ever said that shit.

You know what I'm saying? Keith Murray can't even rap like Keith Murray. His shit is just real. His shit is real. It's just like that. Yeah, man. So, A$AP Rocky or

Hobson? Come on, man. That's a trick question. I mean, A$AP Rocky or Hobson? Come on man That's a trick question I mean it's A$AP Rocky obviously man You know I don't even I mean Yeah just A$AP Rocky man You know

A$AP Let me just say something A$AP I'm really proud of A$AP You know why They really changed The trajectory I'm using big of ASAP. You know why? They really changed the trajectory. I'm using big words. You guys know I don't use big words.

Of New York rap. Mm-hmm. He went out there and took a risk. I like that. Yeah, and he was just being him, too. It wasn't like it was for us, you know? So I want to big up ASAP, Rocky, ASAP, Ferg, all the ASAPs. Even the ASAPs.

He did try to sell us Under Armour's, though. He did, but we didn't fall for it. That's the only thing we didn't fall for. That's the one. Yeah, we were like, nah, nah, nah. You and Steph, you got to relax. Yeah, like, yeah, no, hey. That's one strike, man.

Come on, man. Other than that, I like his, he got some whiskey. It's great. Got some Canadian whiskey. I fucking fantastically liked it. Yeah, that whiskey's good. It's Canadian Japanese whiskey. He sold us bootleg,

but I have, it's the first time I got bootleg shit that I was like, I'm good. They're the same homies that came with Kevin Hart and his brand.

Yes, and Kevin Hart people, I love those people. Those people, what are those people? What are those people? What are they named? Whatever they are. Mercer is the name of the... Yeah.

Okay, go ahead. Go to the next one. Biggie or Big Pun? That's a good one. Only got one shot left too Damn that is a hard one though But I'm Yeah take a shot

Just take the shot Just take the shot Cause I would have loved to hear them rap together You know That would have gave me more of a... That would have been my answer. That would have gave me more of something to judge, you know?

Right. Was there never a record of them two? No. Nah, they existed in two different time frames. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They could have gone in that time.

Yeah. And Pun didn't come out until 98. But there was some... There must have been some bullshit that was circulating. You relating Joe? No, no, no, no, no. There was something that was punning, an old freestyle.

Well, if pun and Biggie was in the same room, pun wasn't pun. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Because in my head, like I want to just say like Biggie just because I got more shit to,

you know, but then I just think about pun verses and it's like, but Biggie can't, you know, so it's like think about pun verses and it's like, but Biggie can't, you know, so it's like. We get it. Yeah, that's even, man. Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock? Yeah, Dave Chappelle.

But, I mean, that's the crazy one. But yeah, I'll just say Dave, though. I'll say Dave. Let's pick up a Dave Chappelle, man. I ain't gonna lie, man. I just say Dave. I like hanging with comedians Way more than like Hanging with rappers Ask me why I mean

I kinda I kinda can get that I kinda can get that I kinda like A comedian cannot Stop being a comedian Yeah I mean It's just in them

You know And then the rappers You know Rappers is like You know superheroes They like wrestlers They like They got their

Rapper persona Other than Kanye I'm going to be honest with you Other than Kanye Rappers don't rap Every Aspect of their life Comedians

Just have to be funny Yeah I mean the whole world They can just see shit And just you know Everything can become A joke to them You know

Don't get me wrong I've been around Some comedians That's funny as fuck On stage And ain't funny In real life though And ain't funny

In real life Yeah they ain't Cracking no jokes And shit Who's your mom I mean I ain't But I'm just saying They just

You see I tried Yeah If you was drinking You would have Invented one of them And to be back on that I do think Chris Rock does have

Better specials than Dave Chappelle. I think that's just more preference for me. I just like Dave Chappelle, you know, just with the show and all that shit. But I do feel like Chris Rock's specials, early, you know, they was crazy, you know? I love Chris and Dave Chappelle, man.

Let's make some noise for them both. I'm going to take a shot for that. So, I'm here. I'm going to take a shot for Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle because they both gave me the most greatest compliment. I walked into Nas' party, his 50th birthday party. I walk in, and the first person I see is Chris Rock. And Chris Rock says, I ain't going to talk to nobody, nigga.

I said, it's Chris Rock. And he just said, I ain't going to talk to nobody, nigga. I said, it's Chris Rock. Yeah. And he just said, I ain't talking to nobody, nigga. And I said, ah. He said, but if I talk to somebody, I'm coming to drink champs. And I was like, my wife looked at me, and she just gave me the handshake. She was like, I'm so proud of you. By the way, this is no cameras allowed.

This is Nas' 50th birthday party. So it's like, so it's just, it was just so beautiful. So Chris Rock, man, I want to thank him. Let's continue. Oh, I got to take a shot, right? Okay. Last one is on you. Loyalty or respect?

I got to pick one? No, you can say both. I mean, because to be honest, man, like, I do watch this show, and I see a lot of times motherfuckers be on here, and they be like, respect. And you be like, motherfucker, you get disrespected every day, man, you know? Baby mamas call you out your name, all type of shit. You still, so to me, man, I don't care about loyalty because loyalty comes at a cost, you know. And you get disrespected by motherfuckers you love every day.

And you still go back and you still love them. You know what I'm saying? So to me, I just want honesty. You know? Just be honest to me. You know what I'm saying? I'd rather a motherfucker not look me in the fucking eyes and lie to me. But a motherfucker disrespect you all the time.

You just got to, you know, it is what it is. The kids disrespect you. So he said neither. You know what I'm saying? You still love them. The motherfuckers you love the most disrespect you and be unloyal to you. You still got to be with them. You still got to love them.

I don't know what answer he picked. He said neither. We got to drink. Neither. I'm taking a... I'd always say both, to be honest. To me, I just want honesty, man. Right. Tell me you ain't going to be loyal, you know?

I'm going to drink this and take a pee-pee. Yeah, solemn. Take a piss, guys. So what are you drinking right now? Oh, this is iced tea. You ordered some weird shit, though. Yerba Mate. What is it?

Yerba? Mate. Yerba Mate is just like a caffeine. It's just like. A zimpic of tea. Two times stronger than coffee type shit. It's not? That's what they call it.

That's what they call it. I never heard of that, but I drink it a lot. I mean, that's what I drink, you know? I mean, I drink coffee in the day, you know what I'm saying? Right.

But I like it. So, because a lot of people can't go from one extreme to another extreme. Do you think that that's what you call it? You went from one extreme, like you said, you said cocaine and all that,

and then now you're going to this other world. Is that what you think? What do you mean? Another world of like what? Just being sober? I feel like that's what we're supposed to be doing. That's what you're supposed to be doing. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, but do you think Do you think Do you do it right Like I don't feel like I should be applauded For doing something I'm supposed to be doing You know

Okay But is Is that one extreme To the next I wouldn't say It's an extreme I mean I mean the hard part is

You just Realize like man Where all the time go Now you know Now like I ain't sitting around Smoking blunts Or drinking all day It's like fuck I have so much fucking time mean the hard part is you just realize like man where all the time go now you know now you're like i ain't sitting around smoking blunts or drinking all day it's like fuck i have so much fucking time on my hands now it's like what the fuck so now i just pour myself more back into my work now i mean i feel like i honestly regained the love for making music again because before

you know it just used to be like you know you gotta do it type shit like i go to studio and get fucked up and just wanting knock that shit out I go to the studio And get fucked up And just Want to knock that shit out So I can go back To getting fucked up Now it's like I'm just back in love With the process of just Now it's fun again

You know Or even being on stage You know Before The motherfucker was thinking About the after party More than the actual show So how do you mosh pit

In a mosh pit Without being Moshed I ain't moshing shit I ain't You know Hell no Man we old man That shit don't come back Shit don't heal quick Like it used to in a mosh pit without being moshed. I ain't moshin' shit. I ain't, you know, hell no. Man, we old, man. That shit don't come back.

Shit don't heal quick like it used to. You know what I'm sayin'? I ain't tryin' to break no bone and do nothin', man. All that shit hurtin' out. You wake up sore and shit, man, shit, man. Motherfuckin' fuck too hard. Your fuckin' pelvic bone be hurtin' and shit now, man. I ain't even tryin' to do that.

Let me ask you. I get it all the time. What's the worst rumor you heard about yourself? I don't know, man. If you heard it, it might be true about my ass. I don't know if it's going to be a rumor. Like what?

I don't know. I don't know what people have said about me. It might have been true. I don't know. You don't know What other people Have said about me man I mean shit It might have been true So I don't know You don't research yourself No I don't do that I mean

I don't know No I wouldn't think I have you know Rumors you know You know I respect that I mean maybe

I mean Nah I ain't Yeah I mean Motherfucker by itself Like I ain't never Smoked no crack Or nothing like that You know what I'm. I mean, nah, I ain't, yeah, I mean, motherfucking bikes, like, I ain't never smoked no crack or nothing like that, you know what I'm saying? I've seen people be like, Danny Brown

crack, I've done some bumps and shit, but I ain't never smoked no fucking crack. I sold crack, you know? Sold crack. I ain't never did no fucking meth, no heroin, none of that kind of shit, you know? Even though that ain't something like a fucking award or something, you know? I was a of shit, you know? Even though that ain't something like his fucking award or something,

you know? I was a pill guy, you know? What kind of pills you took? I mean, I just really loved Adderall and, you know, the normal nigga shit, fucking Xanax and Percocets and shit, you know? The only motherfucker I know who took Adderall right there.

Diego, right there. I used to take them shits every day. I used to take them just being bored. And he used to say he's taking them for taking the test. I mean, this nigga ain't had no test ever.

I mean, they did. Don't get me wrong. That's how it started with me. Really? Like somebody told you you could study better?

No, I mean, I just, you know, people just, I mean, like the first time I did Adderall,

I made like five of the illest songs ever made, like back to back. So then it just gets to the point Then after a while But if you do them for so many After years and shit What songs did you make

On Adderall? That was during the hybrid time Not 25 bucks No that was I mean probably yeah I probably did But Like the hybrid

That was that album So I can't remember The actual five But I know I wrote the hybrid Why do I like Y'all Detroit niggas high? I like you and Eminem high. I'm sorry.

I mean... You don't like them healthy, bro? I understand what he's saying. Because everybody likes a car crash. Yeah, I do like a car crash. You know it's something you want to stare at, but you know? I'm sorry. Yeah, everybody...

I don't think he means A car crash either I think he just He thinks that When you When people were on drugs They were more creative I thought that too But now since I've been sober

I realize that shit Just in me Right You know if anything The drugs and alcohol And shit was fucking me up more Right It was taking me more

Out of who I was You know what I'm saying I was you know But I always been A funny motherfucker Or just being able To fucking rap So that shit was always Just in me Before the drug shit You know what I'm saying I was you know But I always been A funny motherfucker Or just being able To fucking rap So that shit was always

Just in me before the drugs You know And you could rap funny You could rap sober Yeah Now you know I thought it would be hard But I feel like I'm better now

How long did it take you To realize that though After rehab and stuff Oh Cause I'm sure It was a struggle To get to that point Yeah it took a minute man

Cause You know Like I said When I first I didn't Had no intentions On quitting weed and shit But Because I'm sure it was a struggle to get to that point Yeah, it took a minute, man Because, you know Like I said, when I first I didn't have no intentions on quitting weed and shit But, so then I was trying that And it was hard, man I'm like, I got to smoke Quit weed?

Yeah, because I couldn't sleep Because I couldn't sleep no more He's having a terrible time right now Because I couldn't sleep, you know I couldn't, I was like, man You, from what? Quitting weed Oh, I don't know

Yeah, but it was just hard But, you know, it's like everything else, man Just time, man. You, from what? Quitting weed. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, but it was just hard. But, you know, it's like everything else, man. Just time, man. You know, time heals all wounds kind of shit, you know? Now, like I said, I still, I can love it from afar. But as far as just, like, making music, I think, because now, like I said, I have so much time on my hands. I started back, like, making beats and shit, you know? I used to make beats all the time, like, 2007.

Then I found people that made beats better than me. So I was like, fuck my beats. So now I just got nothing but time. So I've been back making beats again and just falling back and just with love with just having fun with it. So I don't even, people might hear my shit and be like, oh, nah, he ain't better than what he was.

But I'm having more fun now than I was before. And it's more of a conscious thought with me. And he takes it to zone in because I know that's what helps him. And it's more of a conscious thought with me. You know, before it just was like, get high and just try to say the craziest shit I can think of. Now it's sometimes, I guess, that might be just like what he's saying.

Like, because motherfuckers high and fucked up, it's a filter, ain't no filter. Now it is more of a filter, man. Now I think about shit a lot more. Like, do I really want to say, like, what am I, you get i you give it i'm saying like certain shit i look back and be like man no that ain't really cool to say and you know who told me that shit a long time ago was fucking ali shaheed muhammad man he was like yeah he's like man you fucking dope you just got to figure out how to say shit in a better way you you know? Oh, he schooled you.

Yeah, and I always stuck in my head, but now I understand what he meant, man, you know? Because, you know,

sometimes shock value just means you embarrassing yourself. Right. It doesn't last. Yeah. It's not lasting. Do you realize

how much hip-hop appreciates you? Um, to be honest, man, I wouldn't even really care I'm just happy to be a part of it That's a great answer

Best and worst answer I've ever heard Yeah no Because I do see like a lot of Influence I've done And I can see where you know Some of it not good Some of it is you know But for the most part

Like I say that kid in detroit just thinking like man i'm gonna be a rapper i don't know and just the fact that i did it like that's like the american dream man to be able to take care of yourself off something you love to do yeah you know people wake up and go do jobs and shit they don't want to be there man i love my fucking job that was one of the biggest reasons for me to get sober, because it was like, I really love my job. I don't want to lose this shit. Me too.

You know? I love my fucking job, too. Yeah. God damn it. And that's the American dream to me, man, to be able to support yourself off something you love to do, man. Can't be no better than that, man. Yeah, I'm going to be honest with you, Danny Brown.

This was awesome. No, it really is. Because you're showing people that you can still have fun, you can still be who you are, and also accomplish your goals. Certain people can't do that. Yeah. And the fact that you're doing that

I want to applaud you Thank you man I want to say This was great man You got anything else? You ever done The Gathering of the Juggalos? Yeah a few times

How's that been? I've been to it twice Last time it didn't go too good Last time it didn't go too good for me Cause you know they always crazy They throw fagos at you and shit. Which means they like you when they throw that shit. Yeah, but this time I played.

Fagos. The soda. The big soda bottle. We're from Pop. Yeah, Pop. That's in Detroit? Yeah, Fagos. That's what they do.

They throw Fagos and shit. But this time I was on stage and they wasn't throwing Fagos and shit. So I was like, what's wrong with y'all Motherfuckers You wanted them to throw Yeah you know And yeah It got bad

They just started Throwing everything They started throwing More than Faygo's I was like Ah man you know Play stupid games Win stupid prizes

You know what I'm saying It's such an interesting Festival man Yeah But it's great It's fun man Just the love out there And shit man

It's a loyal fan base Yeah You know it's crazy I mean like fun, man. Just the love out there. Nah, it's a loyal fan base. Yeah. It's crazy. I mean, like, ICP, like, being able just to be able to go. It's St. Clown Posse. Yeah. To go. That was another thing, too.

Like, being able to be around them early when my career was first starting and seeing how they was operating and moving and shit. And I was like, yeah, that's the type of shit I wanted for myself, you know? Like, you know, I can't say I've accomplished that in that sense, but I was just looking at them like, man, you can really, almost like a blue collar, like middle class rapper, you know? Like, you can really just have a fucking ill-ass career, man, without fucking having to compromise who you are or what you want to do with music, you know?

So I really, that was a big influence on me. Any trick-trick stories? Trick-trick? So I really, that was a big influence on me. Any Trick Trick stories? Trick Trick? I mean, probably before, like, you know, Trick Trick, like, I mean, I used to be a kid, like, you know, teenager. And they used to have these, like, this before, like, any rap shit or whatever. But they used to have, like, these after hours and shit called, like, Outkast and shit like that. And I was like,

the first time I seen a bitch stick a flashlight in her ass and cut it on and off. What? Yeah. What'd you say? She stuck a flashlight in her asshole

and cut it on and off. But I say that to say because Trick Trick, they used to run that shit kind of, and any nigga used to act up and shit They'll lock the doors

On your ass And just beat the shit out you So I seen a lot of Yeah I seen the Goon Squad Put the tips on a lot of Motherfuckers man Shout out to my friend Trick Trick

Who's never Showed me anything gangsta He's always been The gentleman around me Yeah that's the cool thing About him too That's the greatest shit He always embraced me

Like when I first came around Everybody was kind of like Weirded out by me Because I like Wore tight clothes and shit And all that shit And he's like Nah man you from Detroit

We family type shit Like he never looked at me Any type of weirdo way Or nothing like that So let me just This last question Because I just want to just like Get this out the way

Pizza Oh yeah I've seen that shit Detroit style pizza man Because I just want to just, like, get this out the way. Pizza. Oh, yeah, I've seen that shit. Detroit-style pizza, man. Buddies, man. That shit is fire, man. That came out already? I've seen that shit.

That was with G Herbo last week. Yeah, man. You ain't know nothing about the Detroit-style pizza. Don't get me wrong. It's good. It's fire. It's fire. Well, I'm a Digger. It's fire. I didn't even know that came out of the video. It's becoming a phenomenon.

We got Detroit-style pizza in Austin now. So Detroit is throwing a hat in the ring in the pizza. Bro, the pizza's amazing, man. All it is, what it is, is... Really? Oh, now you're with Detroit? I'm telling you. I said it on that episode.

He did. He said it. They actually got some Detroit style pizza restaurants In New York But don't get me wrong I understand what you're saying Ain't nothing better than That New York dollar slice Even though it ain't dollars

Thank you Thank you That dollar slice You know you put the peppers And the parmesan You know you Thank you You dress them up

Thank you Ain't nothing better than that shit But you're telling me Detroit is going to Throw their hat in the ring But Detroit style pizza That's some baller shit Connor you know

I respect y'all With the coney dogs All it is They reversed it It's the sauce On top of the cheese Detroit-style pizza, that's some baller shit, Connor. I respect y'all with the Coney Dogs. All it is, they reversed it. It's the sauce on top of the cheese. That's where y'all lose. I'm going to be honest. Nah, man. It's probably though, man.

I think it's more than that. It's just the way they lose. It's a whole ass recipe. It's good, man. When you in Detroit, man, go to Buddy's Pizza, man. Okay. All right, Buddy's Pizza, I'm going to Buddy's Pizza man Okay Alright Buddy's Pizza I'm going to Buddy's Pizza

Cause I've had Detroit style pizza Everywhere like It ain't still You know they gentrified it man Cause I'll give y'all a glizzy Yeah shit's in Whole Foods now Yeah like I'll give y'all a glizzy

The coneys Y'all got some Yeah but I like the loose burgers I'm a loose burger guy Oh Which would be Detroit version of a chopped cheese When I think about it Cause You ever had a loose burger guy. Which would be Detroit version of a chopped cheese

when I think about it. You ever had a loose burger? He went too far. I'm just being honest. Loose burgers? You never had a loose burger? I never had a loose burger. Loose burger,

they just scrambled. Because I'm a turkey guy. Instead of the hot dog, you're getting scrambled hamburger with the chili and cheese. That's what I eat. But coming up, like old school,

we eating them fish dogs, man. Fish dogs. The fish dogs, man. They fucking just get you like... What you an old school We eating them fish dogs man Fish dogs The fish dogs man They fucking just Get you like What you laughing at Yeah the fish dogs The motherfuckers

I ain't gonna lie I like it Yeah the fish dogs It's like a fish patty On a hot dog bun With the tartar sauce And squeeze cheese So I'm looking at you

As a man You saying that Detroit Could throw Their hat in the ring. It's two different styles. You have to compare it to that Chicago deep dish. Chicago deep dish. Which is, you know, people like they say in Chicago, they don't eat that.

I respect that. I think the Detroit one's better. I'm saying the dollar slice is going to reign supreme every time. You know, in the hood, the dollar slice. It's a classic. It's going to reign supreme. That New York dollar slice, doesn't be in there. The only thing about that

because I don't eat no cheese pizza anywhere else. That Dollar Slice cheese pizza. You eat cauliflower pizza? Nah, man. Come on. He just say nowhere else

other than New York. When I'm in New York, you don't get no pepperoni. You just straight cheese with garlic and all that shit. Dress that motherfucker up. So, yeah. That's right.

God damn it. Anywhere else, you got to get pepperoni for it to be good, you know? One more? What the fuck? Okay. Oh, the BMF series. How do you feel about the show?

I haven't watched it that much. I mean, I've seen the first season. It was good. Because it's about Detroit. Yeah, it was good. I liked it. I mean, like I said, I was kind of before me, so I can't really... Oh, you didn't see BMF? No, too much. I seen him when he was in Atlanta.

Oh, okay. Yeah. I was in Atlanta one time. Anybody you bought was in Atlanta? No, they ain't know me. They was saying... I was just like... I was hanging with some other motherfuckers. But I do know that there was a time where I seen motherfuckers made it rain so much. I left out... We left out of Magic City made it rain so much. I left out. We left out of Magic City.

It was so much money inside my hoodie. Atlanta, Magic City. Like, my hoodie, I was just whipping out money. It was everywhere. I was like, fuck, I ain't never seen no shit like that in my life, you know? Detroit. Yeah, and it was from Detroit, which made us proud. Like, yeah, Detroit niggas doing it, you know?

But I can't say I really know too much about that shit, you know? Yeah, but I recommend you watch that. No, I watched the first season. I don't say I really know too much about that shit, you know? Yeah, but I recommend you watch that. No, I watched the first season. I don't know, man. I watched 60 Minutes and shit now, man. I've been watching Dateline and shit. I don't really watch that kind of shit no more, man. Like, I don't know something about me now.

I just, I don't know, man. Maybe I'm starting to be my age. That's great. Be your motherfucking age. Be your motherfucking age. Let's just say something. On behalf of me, EFN, and all the drink champs, we've been excited.

We wanted to give you your flowers. We wanted to show you how much hip-hop loves you. And we did it tonight. Thank you so much, man. Thank you, man. Salud. Cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers. Salud, my brother.

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