Drink Champs - Episode 410 w/ TK Kirkland

Episode Date: May 17, 2024

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the Champs chop it up with the legend himself, TK Kirkland! Drink Champs Alumni, TK Kirkland is back again to share some stories!  TK talks comedy, the difference between real comedians and social media comedians, and much more! Comedian, actor, podcast host and much much more! Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!! Make some noise for TK Kirkland!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code DRINKCHAMPS and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-drink-champs *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What a good be hoping he's with us Jimmy this is your boy in o re Usually used to pass it to my partner. He's not here today because he's getting... He took your advice and guess what he's getting? What? A cola. A cola. We just made noise for EFN ass, literally. Holy mother. I thought he got a mic.

I thought he got a little. I usually do this long intro. Today is a very special day. I'm honored that you chose to spend your birthday with the Drink Chats. Yeah. We sing it, happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.

Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Yeah! That's it! You know we Spanish too so we gotta do it that way. Delacroix, we are your family! Delacroix, we are your family! Delacroix, we are your family! Delacroix, we are your family! You know we black as hell too, we gotta do it that way.

Happy birthday to ya! Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday. That's what's up. My kids is gonna love this. So what's going on, TK? The world of comedy is seeming like rap right now. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Y'all out here being, y'all niggas is loose. Yeah, no, they loose. They loose. They loose, they loose. But I ain't going to lie, part of me loves it. Loves seeing the competition, people going back and forth. Right. And I guess it started with this famous Cat Williams.

Yes, yes. Did you see that interview? Yeah, I saw parts of the interview and because I'm older, when I see that, I always say that type of stuff is beneath my intelligence. All right, okay.

Because I come up from a different group of men. I move a certain way. All right. And when I see that, I know people have their differences in life. Right.

You know, I was upset on so many levels, embarrassed on so many levels. I also felt that Shannon Sharp, understanding where he's from and being an older guy, I felt that on certain platforms, you're supposed to say, you have your grievances, but not on this show. Because it started a domino effect of negativity around the world. And people who don't understand comedy will take stuff and run because over the last 20, 30 years, social media has really declined the mentality of most men and women around the world. So they don't fact check stuff.

They believe everything. And whoever gets to the mic first truly has the advantage because people run with information so fast without doing the checking. And that's the only thing I have against it. That's all. With me, I'm on a different thing because I noticed that that that's the reason why we do disclaimers now. You know, since our famous Kanye West episode, like we do disclaimers now because to a certain extent, I can ask a person a question, but I really can't control their answer. I can control my response. spawns yeah like so now if i was to ask somebody about a friend of mine's when they was the dis

this friend of mine's i now i now know to be like don't be quiet on that part absolutely because then although they know i can't control it it's still personal yes so that's what it felt to me like that's what it felt like it felt like comedians and not just obviously that was just a fun question but like comedians been doing this i think afrian crockett said they said oh we've been like this and he doesn't participate in in the back and forth neither but it seems like comedians are really stepping up and saying like like i've seen donnell and another one going at each other yeah see that regardless of all that you know you from new york yeah you know i'm from of all that, you know, you from New York. Yes, that's right.

I'm from Jersey, Harlem. And you know all the people I hung out with. Yes, that's right. At the end of the day, a man got to be a man. Right. And that's what we losing. Right. See, at the end of the day, men are supposed to be men.

Like, we don't move that way. Right. move real men move a certain way no matter how they are tempered or um pulled into a situation to get off they square right the discipline is i'm a man first and we handle it unfortunately the rest of the world is not like that so sometimes you gotta take the gloves off and get in the mud like everybody else you know some things some things can't be, you can't let slide. But you also got to have the discipline. Like, you know, is that worth it? Let's give an example, like Jay-Z.

Like Jay-Z gets attacked so much. But to this day, you still don't hear him going back at nobody. And that's just like a perfect example. Unless he wants to. Unless he wants to. Unless he feels the better. One is right. That's how everybody should move in life.

Like, yo, I ain't sweating that. You know what I'm saying? Especially if you take a risk of losing everything you worked hard for. Right, because let me back up a little bit. I said Cat Williams, I started there, but ain't Will Smith considered a comedian to a certain extent? To a certain extent, he has a comedic persona about him. Right. But Will Smith is not in the same situation.

Right. He'll be at nightclubs. Yeah. Will Smith's situation is that he got a woman that devalued him. And your woman, it shows that your woman is just as powerful as you when you wifey. That's why when people say, be careful who you marry because that woman represents you. So you want to have someone that represents you as well.

And even though she has her issues and people love her, you know, at the same time, you still have to move a certain way. That's all. Did you talk to her on stage

when you saw it? When the situation with Chris Rock came out? Yeah. Yeah. I was embarrassed on so many levels because I know Chris. I know Will. And it put everybody to choose sides, you know?

Right. And I didn't choose sides. I just thought, again, I thought it was embarrassing. I felt that at the end of the day, you want men to be men. Right. You know? And as a man, on Will Smith's part part he should have never went on that stage there and did what he did

it should have been something hand off stage talking to you in the back let me holler at you the Chris Rock situation was I was disappointed in him

because it showed him being in Brooklyn he should have known that when he sees somebody rolling up on him you're supposed to back up that walk said it all that walk

you're supposed to back up like why are you rolling up on me And he just stood there And took the hit That bothered me From a What were you

That did in that situation I would have never Been in that situation Chris or what No I would have never Been in that situation Yeah I would have never

Been in that situation Most When I've been in situations In my life It's been because People have snuck me Right okay It's never been a fair one Okay I've had people say They've, it's been because people have snuck me. Right, okay. It's never been a fair one.

Okay. I've had people say they've done things to me, but never been able to really tell the truth, right? So the people who get out there in the universe first will say, oh, such and such happened to TK, but no one knows the truth. So I have to bury it because I cannot chase a lie. And you cannot compete against a lie who is a narcissist or a habitual liar because there's some people who truly believe in what they saying and take it to the grave so you can't go to each person like you're a person lying ever because people gonna believe what they want to

believe now I've seen you of your shows, right? Where this is one of the best crowd control I ever saw. Like you had literally made motherfuckers put their hand up when they go to the bathroom. I was like, I thought it was cool. I was like, yo, you said, somebody got up, you said, hey, motherfucker, y'all ain't getting up no more. From now on, everyone's raising their hand.

No, no, it's a setup. Oh, okay. What I do is I let a couple people go use the bathroom. I let two or three. I see the whole room. Right, right. And then when that fourth person starts getting up, I'll say, excuse me, can you come have a seat with me for a second? Right.

And they're like, no, no, I got to go. I say, just for a second. You know, and then I look around the room, I say, let another motherfucker get up and don't raise their hand. Because I said, I'm in the middle of a conversation. And what I'm trying to show the universe is that I am a professor of my game. That the information I'm dropping is not just a comedy show. What you're about to walk out on might be something that can change your life.

So I need you to really sit here, even though I'm playing, sit here and really comprehend, because after my shows, people say to me, could you repeat what you said? And I'm like, no, because I'm like a professor. You should have been in there really paying attention, because I've elevated my game of comedy to what I call PhD level.

Like, you really got to come to my show and really be alert because I read, I study. It's so much that when I'm on stage, I really want to give the world this information. Right. And when I was here last time and I was talking about Inkfile and all this stuff about LLCs and EINs, right? Yeah. And as I progress in life, I still learn things to this day. Right. And as I progress in life, I still learn things to this day. And when I come to your show, I always try to be so prepared because when I walk down the street, no matter if I'm in Paris, Australia, people have seen your show.

They talk to me about my knowledge. They talk to me about being well-spoken. And I represent the African-American man. I take pride in that. Regardless of what my past was 20, 30 years ago, it's about evolving into become a better man, you know? And that's the kind of man I want to be. I remember that. One thing that started since on stage was,

like, that year, I believe Dave Chappelle got attacked. Yes, it was a crazy year. Like, they was going on that. Have you ever had a heckler or something like that happen to you where someone like try to physically come at you because you'd be pretty harsh yeah i i think i'm truly well respected right you know what i mean i think i'm well respected no one really comes i might have issues but i'm smart enough i know how to control the room that comes from touring with the Cash Money Millionaires, the Jay-Z's, the N.W.A.'s. And what happened, I remember doing a Rough Rider tour, and Leo Cohen, yeah, he was at the show.

And he said, man, people don't know how. He was like T.K. Kirkland. Yeah, you know how he talks. Did he say he liked T.K. Kirkland? He was like, nobody knows how important your show is as an emcee because I'm there to control the climate of the room. It's the same way as a stand-up comedian. People can start going back and forth.

Now I can make a choice. We could turn this motherfucker out. I have the ability that I control the room. This thing can go to a war or we can have a physical fight or I can have security escort you out to protect everybody. See, because everybody has to be protected. Because go way back to a club I did about 30 years ago called Terminal D.

Got into a big fight in Terminal D. And what I realized, that everybody in the club sued me. Wow. See, whoever got the money in the club is getting sued that's a defendant who everybody's gonna sue you wow so that taught me 30 years ago and when i do that when people do have problems with me on stage i go i actually say to myself why did you come out to start a problem

because all these i become nervous on stage Not that I fear for my life. I'm nervous because this can go so many ways. People can get hurt. In the worst case scenario, going in front of a judge, having the police come handcuffing you. Somebody could die. Everybody always thinks that a fight is just going to be a fight. But it can lead to someone really getting hurt. know you know um like i i i always knew how important comedy is right but during the pandemic it really really really really made me you know what i mean yes yes so

that's what i'm saying like i don't think you ever bombed right no no never okay but comedy has now has this dark side to it it's not all rights and cameras so true and it's good what's happened to it because people you know one of my great friends um ab he's here too he talked one day he said people love looking at car accidents right see whenever there's a problem no matter matter what level, from comedy to Donald Trump, people love looking at car accidents. People love looking at situations that might make them feel better for the day. So comedy is right up there with puppy combs.

See, puppy comb situation is people tune in because they love seeing, whatever their reason, they love seeing someone who was so successful go through so much pain. Some are happy. Some don't have no feelings whatsoever. But you stop to look to see what's going on. And that's just the human nature. You know, it's just human nature. So who's ever on the receiving side of that pain, can you handle it? Now, I heard you say you managed yourself for 30, what, how many?

40 years now. 40 years. Yeah, 40 years. So you never thought about getting management or something like that? I think I'm cheap when I come down to it. You what? I think I'm stingy. That's why you don't want to...

I think there gotta be that. Yeah. Because I get calls all the time, TK, let me do that. Right. And if a person can't do it better than me, I'm not hiring you. Right, right.

I'm like, I'm not the nigga that's going to give away bread just to have an entourage and save people rolling with me. Right. Like, some people need it. Right. I don't need it. Right. I don't need it.

Right. I book myself on shows. I got the rental car. I can get a driver. Right. I can get to hotels. And it keeps me busy. And now, achieving certain things in life, right?

You know, I'm president of the Homeowners Association. You know? Hey, RP, thoughts all over the place. Yeah. You know, I'm on a whole nother level. Most people have not reached the peak of my career. You know what I'm saying? I'm leader of the neighborhood watch.

Really? I get everybody up early in the morning. Everybody got to be on point. You know, I'm a crossing garment on Tuesdays and Thursdays. You wear the jacket? I wear the jacket. It's a style sign. You know, I'm a crossing garment on Tuesdays and Thursdays. You wear the jacket? I wear the jacket. It's a style sign.

Then I go back and sip my coffee on the little chair. You know, I do that with my slippers on. Homie, let me tell you something. Life is amazing. And when I roll through the area to do my homeowners association, because I give out numerous Violations I wasn't ready I'm on a scooter with a cigar I do everything fly

They be thinking I'm Crip I swear that's how I be moving I found a way just to Really enjoy life You know and you have no idea what this means to me. You know, our show is about giving out flowers. We got them ready. They're on the Uber.

They're on the Uber. Okay. Use the weeds, Papaji. We're going to get to it. Hold on. Go on. Can we ask you something? Music better or comedy?

I like everything. A lot of people don't know I'm really into classical music. I really like Frank. I mean, Yanni. I'm a Yanni classical. Yeah, I like Yanni. I love classical music. The music that he puts out is just so amazing.

If you just sit there and just listen to early in the morning, sipping on some coffee and got your candle before you let the world into your life. I always say from 5 a.m. to 12, I try not to talk to nobody in this world unless you're my children or a loved one because I don't want to hear nobody's bullshit in their life.

So 5 to 12 is for the Lord, I call it. And then 12 or 5, I take all calls from everybody else. You're specifically dressed in all red. I call it. And then 12.05, I take all calls from everybody else. You specifically dressed in all red. Yeah, but I knew you might be saying something.

And no disrespect when I say this, right? See, because when the world has such, no disrespect when I say this, so don't get offended. When the world IQ

is not that high, they associate shit like that. But nigga, I look good in red. I look really red. Listen, I ain't affiliated with nobody. But nigga,

I look good in red. That's the first thing they said. They said, he pulled up. He's looking like a blood. No disrespect to everybody in all games. I wish everybody the best, but I don't move.

I'm in the AARP game. Yeah, me too. I'm in the AARP game. AARP game. Right. Absolutely. That's what I'm in. I was going to cut my hair before I came here.

Yes. When I found out it was your birthday, I said, nah, let's do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to rock it. You know, I got a little shave too. You know what I'm saying? I sure did. I said, nah, let's go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to rock it. You know, I got a little shave, too. You know what I'm saying? I sure did. I got a little grease.

Yes. You made me feel so good just now when you pulled up because I found out that there's someone in this world that's a worse parker than me. No, no, no. I parked that car hell of good. They were saying that. No, no, no. They were saying you was out there.

That's because they were seeing your citizens looking way down the street. But, nigga, I parked the fuck out that car, dog. And we got there with the camera just a couple inches from the curb. Yeah, I parked the hell out that whip. What's your favorite comedian besides you? Who's my favorite

comedian? And it took me a while to start saying comedians' names because I never paid attention to comedians. But if I had to say who's truly the best stand-up comic, I would say in the world because he's versatile. He can go either way if he had to. It's Tommy Davidson. From Liver Color? Tommy Davidson.

He's a bad man. And here's the thing about business. See, most comedians, when I try to teach them the game of comedy, they are just looking for tomorrow. Tommy Davidson will be working until he's 100 years old. Wow.

Because the style of comedy can blend into anywhere. And that's what you want in comedy. You don't want to just be in one category your whole life. Like, you know, years ago, I used to be called the gangster comedy, and another comedian took that in New York. I let them have it, because when you're in business,

you don't want nothing gangster to be associated with your name. You don't want nothing like that. I used to have king of underground comedy. Somebody else took that. I allowed them to have that as well. What I had told AB and what I told some friends of mine, that what's important to me,

I want to be considered the king of hip-hop comedy because no one was doing stand-up on tours before me. And I started with NWA in 1988. And I did all the major tours. And people came on after me. But I was like the first in hip-hop So that's the title that one because I know can no one take the king of hip-hop comedy. No one could take that Speaking you Wearing red. I remember

Me watching an interview and someone asking about Suge Knight Yeah And I remember like how passionate you was like saying that Suge was a good guy. And at this time, Suge was looked at like a devil. Yeah. How did you develop a relationship with Suge? Me and Suge, see, I know Suge when he was a bodyguard. Oh, wow.

On NWA. He protected me and D.O.C. That's right. D.O.C. said that, but we just had him on here. Yeah. Me and D.O.C. was roommates on tour. Wow. So, Suge was the bodyguard still working at UNLV as a football player.

Right. And I saw the rise and fall of him. Wow. I mean, he used to come pick me up. We used to go hang out. It was no gang affiliation type stuff. See, everybody I hung out with from R. Kelly to Baby from Cash Money to Easy. Okay. I always was my own man.

We do what we're supposed to do. Everybody go their way. I'm not coming to your house. I'm not hanging with you. I just always been that kind of guy. So they've always showed me man respect. I just hate to see all these things happen to everybody based on bad choices in life. And that's what it comes down to.

It comes down to bad choices. And men of power got to a level of success that they didn't understand the appreciation of air, the appreciation of leaves, the appreciation of just walking the street and being a man and being free like we is so important to understand freedom and going in out of your house when you want to you know I'm saying like so important and we need to let the young kids understand cuz they glorifying going to jail they glorifying getting locked up and we have the OG's we have to really push that message of letting these kids know, yo, it ain't that

serious because, I mean, if we had social media back in the 90s, we'd all be doomed. I always think if Tupac had a Twitter. Here's the thing about when you mentioned Tupac's name, I knew Tupac too way back when he was... I never got to meet Tupac. Tupac's story? Yeah, way back even when

he was with Digital Underground. And the thing that Tupac. You got a Tupac story? Yeah, way back even when he was with Digital Underground. Oh, wow. And the thing that Tupac needed was an OG, a real OG to guide him because he was looking for love and leadership. It's just that he met people that was in a transition in their life, and he wound up going the wrong way. Because when you think about something like this the other day, when he got out of jail he was only on the jail he wasn't out of jail a year and see jail puts you in when you get locked up people don't understand this it's a it's the universe it's energy the universe puts locks you up to really save your life watch where i'm going you can either go to jail and understand the i call it being rebornborn is to get your life together

And you come out and be a better man I've seen some people go in That got it But when we talk about famous people There's only one person that really got it That went to jail and came out And became a better person It was Gucci man

See Gucci man went in No disrespect when I say this Gucci my nigga He went in the ugly man He went in fucked up in the head He went in, no disrespect when I say this Gucci, my nigga, he went in the ugly man. He went in fucked up in the head. He went in out of shape, pre-diabetic, maybe diabetic. That motherfucker came out a model. That nigga got a six pack. Waves, nigga.

I've been trying to get a fucking six pack since 1993. And I don't know about you, the food they serve you in there is horrible. So how did he pull that off? And that's how people should look at Gucci, man. Gucci man went in and got it right. Got married, came a father. Yeah, and that's what the universe does. It shows you that you're on a projection of failure.

Okay. And you go in there and you turn things around. Respect. But everything has to work out, though. You know, like, life is really avoiding minefields. Mm. Because life is full of minefields, right? Boom, setback. Boom, setback.

And so can you maneuver around the minefields to stay on course? And if you ever hit a minefield, can you heal and get back and continue your journey? I once heard Kirk Franklin say, you can't wait to win until you, you can't heal until you, you can't win, but wait till you heal.

You're going to have to win wounded sometimes. Yeah. I thought that was like, meaning like life ain't going to have to win wounded sometimes. I thought that was like hell. Meaning life ain't going to be perfect even when life is perfect. It's a definition of character. Because the way

you see the world going today is fucked up out here, fam. The mentality, not just in the streets, I mean all the way up to government. The people the mentality not just in the streets i mean all the way up the government um the people on that level who who are making decisions truly believe no one attacked the capital insane people really walking around thinking that didn't happen the trump people and it's on video and they really feel like it did not happen that's the illusion of life now

like things can happen and people truly pretend that it's not going on and it's on video and then when you talk about right and when you talk about politics you see how white privilege and don't disrespect anybody white or

society I just want to bring things to the way they are right not one time have they called Donald Trump a murderer and watch one point if we went out if everybody if we went somewhere right now and we shot somebody else everybody here will get accessory to murder

Donald Trump should be accessory to murder because five people died at the Capitol, but no one never talks about him. None of the talks about that. You didn't know that, huh? Five people died, dog. Yeah, a couple people died.

Never have you heard them say murderer. But let it have been a black or Spanish person. He would have been associated, affiliated with murder. Murder one. Because he led an army of African-Americans or Spanish people to a site, to the site of riot. Exactly.

It had been over. And that's the way of the world. So we could talk about it or complain all day. I tell people all day, life goes to the strongest. Like, if you've gone through life weak or scared, then you're doomed. Because it's only going to the savvy,

the swift, and the person that is most courageous. You like Joe Biden? I don't really like any of the... Remember, I'm an old head. I go back when... We call him Sleepy Joe. Politics was old-fashioned, right?

When it was old, like, people who ran the country were just corny old white men. Right. Trump brought a little flavor into it, right? Obama did first, though. Obama did, too. Obama brought the flavor first. Yeah, Obama brought it, and then Trump brought it in.

You respected Obama, but the only thing, as a man, what I didn't like about Obama, he signed the LBGTQ on his watch. He gave that a pass. That's how that became into law. Not against the LBGTQ. It's just that that's what happened on his watch. Trump came in, and I'm totally against a man who's a liar. Right.

I believe that if you're president of the United States of America, there's nothing you have to lie about. Right. Again, because of the Capitol, again, because of all the cases he had from the stripper to New York City, the way he talks is that somebody, he walked up one day and somebody gave him these cases. That's

how pretty much half the world thinks. They believe that someone just woke up and he didn't do these things. They just set him up. Nigga, you got a case. And I think that's wrong. But again, we are persuaded to think so many things and it's like the old

saying not guilty i didn't do it i didn't do it till a person starts saying yeah man i'm a fuck i ain't do it i'm a flip-flopper on trump right yeah because i do like the fact that hell beef with like kim jong-un and rosie o'donnell day. Like, that's kind of hard to me. That's kind of hard to me. That's a different level of energy. But again, Nori, because we friends now, you really got to step up your intelligence. Yeah, but you a leader now. No, no, I got to get you.

I got to get you, Nori. No problem, no problem. This ain't a game no more, Nori. Nori, no, you got to let me out. Nori, you got to hear me out. I got to hold you accountable. Okay, I got to hold me accountable. Nori, you a leader.

Yes, yes. See, I see people come on your show. I see people around the world say I'm a boss. Everybody say I'm a boss. But see, a boss is a title. That's all it is. See, you a leader. You a leader of the people. You lead people. All right. I need you. Just my suggestion so you're a leader you're a leader of the people

you lead people just my suggestion because you're grown I want you to lead people not to Donald Trump not to sleepy Joe neither I'm saying lead when I say lead understand what comes out your mouth

is so powerful that you understand this is going to influence someone. Absolutely. Okay, I want you to, I promise you, please take that into consideration. Okay, I got you.

Okay, okay. I'm just saying, the presidency right now, even though we're talking politics, So let me give you a point on that. It's a low level It's a low level and you got to make this

hard decision, man. Yeah. It really is because whatever your feelings for Trump, man. Yeah. It really is. Because whatever your feelings for Trump, you got Trump. Whatever your feelings for Biden, you got Biden. You don't know who to believe. Yeah. Right?

You don't know who to believe. So, question to you. Do you still vote? I have to vote. You have to vote. I have to vote. So, you feel it's still an extremely important right and everybody should vote? Everybody should vote.

Regardless of what they say or whatever. You should get in line and do it. You do. You have to vote because when you look back at this country, understand what we've gone through, you know, you go back to 1972. Women wasn't able to have a bank account in 1972. You go back to the early 60s women wasn't able to wear bikinis they wear on the on the beach now you had to have a dress a half an inch before your

waist i mean for your knee or you would get a ticket or get or taken to jail so voting helps put certain politicians in the office to believe in what you believe in, right? It's just that social media has changed them too. Right. Everybody's clickbaiting. Even the people in the White House, in Congress, they're in it for likes more so than doing their job. But TK, what if you don't like any one of them and you don't see-

Choose a poison. You listen to this one, you listen to that one, and neither one of them. And you don't see. Choose your poison. You listen to this one. You listen to that one. And neither one of them say anything that you feel is important to you. Most people are going to say I'm not going to vote. Right. Most people will say I'm not going to vote. That's what it feels like.

And the thing that you have to go with is. Because that's where I'm at. Demonstration is better than conversation. You got to go with the least of the most evils. Who was the... Who didn't hurt us that much when they was office? Because they've both been in office. Both of them.

When you got Trump, I mean, you got Biden, his situation to me is the migrants coming to this country, right? And how they handle it. Now, to me is the migrants coming to this country. Right. Right. And how they handle it. Now, I'm not against them coming to the country.

I'm upset on how they handle the people who are already here. Yeah. Right. And what I mean is the migrants coming to this country, they'll move people out of apartments, move people out of jobs, and give these people vouchers and things to survive. They're paying for it. jobs and give these people vouchers and things to survive. And I tell people for the homeless or Section 8, now you

got to go out the country and come back as a Mexican and become a migrant to come back over here to win. So it's like who's making these decisions, right? We're sending billions of dollars to Ukraine. Billions of dollars to Palestine.

We still got neighborhoods out here that's fucked up. And that's my point. We don't take care of our own people, right? Yeah, we don't even take care of our own people. And that's what's so crazy, that the right people are not making decisions on the high level. And this is why it's so confusing out here.

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Yeah, yeah, you got to make out. Yeah. What you want, Jack Barganay? What you want, Jack Barganay? Let's do both. Okay, let's do both. Let's do both. That's right, y'all.

That's it. Let's do both. Yeah, let's do both. Let's do both. So that's the thing about Pilots. So I will say to the people listening, just try to make good decisions and make the best man win because

it is what it is right we here there's no turning back i do kind of want to see like if kamala could step up how do i feel about kamala has because he's sleepy and she's not around that's how i feel right like you know what i mean like right so um like I don't do it like I want to see thank you beautiful I don't know you knew I'm supposed to hire my level I guess I want I want to see something about me want to see the black girl in her like I want that part to come out like at times you've seen that camera come out of Obama right when he killed Osama bin Laden I could just pitch the Obama Obama like this with a bogey. Yeah, bogey. Let's get him. See, everybody

has something on their resume that make you uncomfortable. You got Trump, let's say, with the Capitol. You got Biden with the way he's handling the border. But the thing that you have about Kamala Harris and a lot of people don't know is the government sent to the Africa

with $100 million to push the lbgtq did you know that no yeah true story gave a hundred million to go to africa for them to get behind that movement and they were like and not to say this in my stand-up they was like if you don't get out of here by nine o'clock your nose is gonna be stew they wasn't having it in Africa. Yeah, one of them guys said death. So my point that I'm making, are you a leader or are you a follower? Or someone told you to do X, Y, and Z? Because I think at the end of the day, some things you are just supposed to say no to.

And I know politics is serious. Politics is the most scandalous game on the planet. Backstabbing and doing different deals behind closed doors. Since they're giving Ukraine a lot of money, since they're giving the Palestinians a lot of money, we're all hustlers. If we was giving that kind of money to somebody, you know you're going to be talking

to somebody and say, no, you know you're going to have to give me a little something in that back, you know, on the side. Like, yo, put that to the side. Like, I'm going to make sure this pass. But you know, hey, no, you know you're going to have to give me a little something in that back. You know, on the side. Like, yo, put that to the side. Like, I'm going to make sure this pass. But you know, hey, look, look. Make sure I'm straight. You know what I mean? We got this for you when you leave office.

You know what I'm saying? I don't see that not happening. You think she's just happy to be there and she's just waiting on her team. No, I mean just the government, Trump or Biden. Whoever's president, I don't see them not doing side deals. It's a business. For sure. Yeah.

That's that Japanese whiskey. 17 year. Woo, Habiki. Woo. It's smooth, too. It's smooth. It's smooth. It's smooth.

It's smooth. Cheers. To all the people. T to the motherfucking K. Mm-hmm. Woo, that motherfucker hit the... Yeah, that shit is different. I've been saving this bottle.

I've been saving this bottle for a special occasion. You feel that, boy. Yeah, that ain't... Man, woo. So, where's your favorite place to perform? My answer to that

all the time is whoever give me my check that night. Got it, sir. Come on, you gotta have a place like... I ain't gonna lie. What's your favorite country? Hold on, let me explain to a place like, I ain't going to lie. What's your favorite country?

Hold on, let me explain to you why. When I did music, okay, Miami was my favorite place to come, but it wasn't my favorite place to perform. Understand. Because I was hardly ever number one in Miami, but I was always number one in Philadelphia and always number one in Connecticut. Right. Right. Wasn't necessarily my favorite places to perform, but it was my favorite place because that's where

that energy came. I understand what you're saying. Like, I ain't never had a bad show. Right, right. So, which one of these places? I love them all, but if I had to really say the city that does it for me

or did it for me was Madison Square Garden. Damn. Where I was most famous to read. What a floss. Listen to me. What a floss. as a Swear Guard. Damn. One of the most famous to read. One of the most. Listen to me. One of the most. Matt as a Swear Guard.

Hold on. Stand in ovation, too, by the way. Describe that. So what happened there? Well, when I came out, you know, this is when I had this style called this rhythm. It was like one joke after the other. Pa-pa, pa-pa. It's a style that I had.

Pa-pa, pa-pa, pa-pa, pa-pa. one joke after the other. It's the style that I have. And after 30 minutes, in the first 10 or 15 minutes, people are still talking. I got this thing down to science. Going into 15 minutes, the topics that I'm talking about is captivating people's attention. Then once I have you hooked,

then I just take it all the way home. And at the end, I still remember to this day, I said, because that's the type of nigga I am, T to the motherfucking K, and walked off. you hooked then i just take it all the way home and at the end i still remember to this day i said because that's the type of nigga i am t to the k and walked off with my fists in the air 5 000 people the power was so insane that i it pushed me off the stage that's how powerful the energy was that mess where god that's a screw one yeah that's where God the craziest arena on earth yeah craziest arena on earth yeah

insane you know what's crazy what was the moment when you decided to become a comedian I decided to become a comedian around like 19

what was he doing he's on the sideline man shut up over there you can answer the question yeah I'm going to answer it this way it's really a low IQ question.

That's the IQ question. That's the low IQ question. You know what I'm saying? See, every time I come here, I need y'all to start reading. So when I get TK coming, we got to step it up. TK coming. Step it up. Yo, TK's basically saying, that's why I got here. Y' it. We got stuff out. TK going. TK going. Step it up. Yo, TK's basically saying, that's why I got here.

Y'all kind of got dumber. And we don't mind. We sit here laughing at it. Remember, you guys are leaders. From now on, when I see your interviews, don't just say boss no more. You're leaders. Take pride in being leaders. I like that.

And the kids will start saying that as well I saw you in Daniel Beach about two years ago I remember that and I was staring at you because I didn't know

who the fuck you was you were saying drink champ and my brain was moving at a million miles a second who is this

motherfucker but I sat with the crew by myself I had to show the love because you sat down with us and then I went your miles a second. Who is this motherfucker? But I associated with the crew. By myself. I had to show the love because you sat down with us and then I went

and showed the love. You're very polite. But you also said you were doing the thing for Netflix or you was So here's the thing about my thing with Netflix.

I got my deal with Live Nation. Netflix is coming. It's going to come two ways. It's going to come through Live Nation or me and Cash Money Millionaires is getting ready to do something.

And if me and Baby do what we are about to do, this will be the greatest stand-up special ever. That's what I wanted to hear. That's what we're doing. I remember that dance. And right now, I have my own network, so I put out my own specials, you know, and it's called TK.network. So until the meantime, I get what people see.

Again, the world is set up to think to make it. You have to do Netflix. That's because we're programmed. Oh, that's a process. Yeah. People think, oh, you got to make it. You made it. You did Netflix.

But I get the money the money see we live in a uh industry that you have to be smart to get the money right so i put out my own specials all the money comes directly to me much like banner yeah i put on my own special my daughter executive producer on my special right so even over the next 70 years, she will always get a check. Right? I think that's why you get respected, because the time that you spent on your show, we're all there for that. But then when everybody was leaving, you was out in the front. You ran from the stage to the front, giving people seats.

I believe in shaking hands. I was like, you know, like a positive. A lot of comedians don't know how that started. I started that in the 80s, shaking hands, just something. It was two things. One, to pull a bitch if she was fine. You know what I'm saying? Because my game is cold, so if I see somebody

fine, you know, I'm like, bitch, you need to be with me. You know what I'm saying? That's how I was, right? And then it just became a handshake, so when I see other comics doing it, I laugh because I'm like, they don't even know how this all started, you know? So I shake hands out of respect. I don laugh because I'm like, yeah, you don't even know how this all started.

I shake hands out of respect. I don't believe in charging for pictures. I think that's a money grab. I think that we charge so much for them to get in. Why not allow the people feel amazing when you're taking pictures? Because I want to hug you. I want to make sure that you understand that I really

appreciate what we're doing. And I tell people all the time, really, I just want to be in your phone, right? So when I leave this earth one day, and you're at the barbecue, or you're in a conversation, I want you to be like, yeah, I met that brother. And when you start, talk about the greatest comedians you ever met. I want

to be in that conversation and say, yeah, but what about T to the motherfucking cat? That's what I want. You know what I'm saying? That's what I want. Now, I want to hear if you and Jamie Foxx had a one-on-one battle, like a versus style battle. Is that true? No, never.

No? I think that y'all was battling and I think you went over the time or something like that. Oh, no, no, no, it was a competition. Competition, yeah. We call that versus. Yeah, okay. So, competition, no, no. It was a competition. Competition, yeah. We call that versus. Yeah, okay. So, a competition in Oakland, California.

This is when Jamie Foxx got discovered. Okay, wow. He got discovered through agencies and everything. Okay. All the comics knew and there's not no

patting, there's no bragging. All the comics knew TK was the man. Okay. And on that particular day at Oakland, California, Paramount, James, we all made it to the semifinals. Right.

And we all had 15 minutes. And they was real strict about the time. I went over my time. Right. Right. But I got a standing ovation. Right. And they can't.

I got disqualified. Wow. They didn't care. You know, I got disqualified. But everybody know. What? Jamie will tell you to this day, I destroyed that motherfucker. And I went up right to him afterwards.

I said, yo, Jamie, you can't even follow me. And if you see the interview, he says, I was right. It actually comes out of his mouth. But he went on to be a very, very successful talent. And that's all you can wish is, you know, comedy is, in my world, is a definition of strength and character. I may not have hit the mountaintop like the Dave Chappelle's,

the Kevin Hart's, the Jamie Foxx's, but I've been consistent for 40 years. See? That's good. How's it going today? Yeah, I've been totally consistent. And no matter what they threw at me, I took every brick like my man on, what's the show?

Snowfall. And I built it brick by brick. Franklin. Yeah, Franklin Saint. And I built it brick by brick. So, yeah, Franklin Saint. And I built it brick by brick. And here I am, 63, the day, doing my thing. You know what I'm saying? And I'm just getting started.

I'm still getting it. I feel like it's just getting started. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited. I remember we spoke about this a little earlier, COVID, right? I remember seeing Afriyung Crockett and Kevin Hart getting on. And they were really

ranking at each other but i mean but they were going for each other's right right why don't comedians do more things like that because like you also seen kevin hart going to a with chris rock right you know what i mean so why don't comedians like do that like like tour together like you said you took you told it's a it case a competition thing it is yeah it's a competition thing but you gotta understand the quality of comedy it's a right the chemistry has to match right if I'm talking about certain things you can't have another comic right so it's like a DJ he'll tell you don't play the particular record is that cuz I'm gonna play that it's the same thing with stand-up comedy You can't have someone on with you

That might say the same thing So on my shows I go for the Corniest guy And you have to be clean Why? I want to be the only one saying Profanity

I want to be the only one When I get to it Talking about sex I want to be the only one When I get to politics I'm talking about politics The way I want to be the only one when I get to politics, I'm talking about politics the way I want. It's not that I'm against any comic.

I've done this so long that I know what I want. And I want to have a clear lane when I get on stage. Because if I put certain comedians on stage and they're doing their thing and they're rocking

as a good comedian, you know what I'm doing? I'm taking things out my act. Right. So I don't repeat the same thing that they just talked about. So if everybody going to say, say we'll talk about Will Smith,

then I come on stage and I'm the headliner. It looks like I'm repeating what they said. I'm the headliner. I can't do that. So is that professionalism or experience?

That's experience. Both, both, both. You know, it's just common sense. You don't want to go off and talk about the same thing three comics have talked about it right it'll make sense like recently i was in um uh paris and i went to go see nas and wu-tang perform yeah right and their show was crazy because you got to realize that these are both two iconic things yeah so what i saw what i was so impressed by, there was no headliner.

Like, they were both the headliner. Like, you see Wu-Tang start or Nas start, I forget. But then they come out and then he goes back out. And I was like, I thought that that was genius. I was like,

you know what I mean? I went to see Wu-Tang last week in Vegas. Mm-hmm. And I'm going to tell you a story. I've been doing this 40 years. They got a regency out there. Yeah.

Residency. Yeah residency For the first time in my life I felt like a superstar and let me tell you why I'm sitting in the front row They all came out and I had the bling on I'm looking up I bring out the same And they going by walking but they see me they they they're giving me they knowing that it's me and i'm thinking about you i'm thinking about blad i'm thinking about all the podcast stuff i've done i said these no tk because i never met them before. Oh, wow. I never met Wu. Out of all the rap motherfuckers I met, I never met Wu. And I felt honored that they was acknowledging me.

Right. After the show, they didn't leave that stage. Right. They came to where the fuck I was sitting. Every last one of them shook my hand. The thing that I love about their show is it seemed like somebody called them like they was in their own apartment. In regular clothes.

Durags. Because they don't give a fuck about stage presence. They not going to put nothing fly on them. And somebody said, yo nigga, we going on in 15 minutes. Them niggas, they going to be there. Them niggas came up with the durags, pants halfway. Looked like they didn't wash. Oh, shit.

And it came out grimy. You know what I'm saying? And I said, yo, I love these motherfuckers. Because it was no thing. It wasn't like New Edition. They gonna come out with the steps. You know, it was one after one. Right. One after one.

Yo, Wu-Tang forever. I get it now. It's just some niggas from Staten Island who got together, and they put the whole city on. Yep. Niggas, they got 800 rappers. Yeah. Yo, it was so many of them niggas.

You start saying, who the fuck is that? But it was a beautiful experience. A shout out to all the brothers. They showed me mad love. Shout out to the Wu. And I really mean that. I don't know. Because they made me feel amazing.

Yeah, that show was so dope. They made me feel amazing, yo. I ain't going to lie. Are we making some noise for Wu-Tang Clan? We got to make some noise. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to the Wu. I'm not trying to let the cat out the bag,

but I'm just trying to put foresight. We supposed to interview Riz in Japanese whiskey. Drink Japanese whiskey in Japan. Wow, that's going to be gangster. Let me know when you go. For some reason, I'm going to have my knees crossed. No, let me know when you go. I'm going to fly out there.

Yeah, yeah, Japan. When you go, let some reason, I'm going to have my knees crossed. No, let me know when you go. I'm going to fly out there. Yeah, yeah. To Japan? When you go, let me know if I'm not on tour. Right, right. I'm flying. Because I've never been to Japan. You've never been to Japan? I've never been to Japan.

You've never been to Okinawa? Yeah, I'm flying. That's where Mr. Miyagi from. To Japan. Yeah. I'm flying to Japan. I'm going to get you some itchy bar. Now, the thing that I love about you, because you don't look successful.

Yeah. What the fuck does that mean? What does successful look like? This nigga do not look successful. I'm just being honest. That's me from his wardrobe. Salute. The nigga think he fly but he don't look successful. But then you see this nigga with the flyest shit and then the camera, the water is bluer

than the sky. Who the fuck see this nigga with the flyest shit. And then the camera, the water is bluer than the sky. You're like, who the fuck is financing this? Who the, who? And the nigga is everywhere. Drinking the best of liquor. Running on the beach on some of the most exciting, I'm successful. I've never been with him. I can't pronounce half the places. And then he bring out the

watches. I'm like, who the fuck is financing? And the stuff that he look like he wears looks cheap, but you know what he expects. This shit look cheap than the motherfucker. Shit look cheap as hell. But then you like, ooh, this nigga. Then you catch him on his Instagram, you see behind the scenes. Says, this is the nigga of God. Nah, it's just the hood royalty.

I keep it hood, but it's like some royalty. Did not go to one of your restaurants? Up in, we ain't going to say where you go. OK, OK, OK. The rooftop and shit. And I brought up a nanny taking care of it. And my man said, oh, I'm glad to have you. Normie comes to the game.

Oh, yeah. Oh, I got great taste. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah. We ain't going to put everybody on. We can, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah. We ain't going to put anybody on. I'll go with it. We can't tell nobody. Yeah, they said, no, we can't.

And they set the table out. Nope. You know, I was having some business. Yeah, yeah. And they had a table out and, you know, the cheesecake. And my man said, yeah, my mother makes the cheesecake. Take the cheesecake. You know what I'm saying?

And everything says, no, you can't do that. I said, no, I'm everywhere. And it looked like you were on the beach. It looked like your spot was on the beach. I mean, yeah, a little bit. A little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because when he was talking to me, for some reason,

he kept looking towards the beach. And I said, no, he must be somewhere over there. Who was crying? You ain't making that kind of noise. Put me under pressure. I said, Norey, must be living somewhere. Who was crying? You ain't making that up. Put me under pressure. I can't say nothing. Norey. What you doing for your birthday?

How you celebrating it? You know, this is, believe it or not, when I tell you this, all my life, I never really celebrated my birthday.

Every day is my birthday. That's how, the way I do it is I don't let the world dictate to me I dictate to the world. So every day is my birthday. But right now I can tell you because I didn't have nothing planned. I wasn't gonna do nothing special. But this right here is my birthday. In the building and three other friends.

So my thing is, this is my birthday round. Good energy. Because when you have a good interview, and let me share it to you by energy. Whenever there's a good interview, that means there's no haters in the room. I like that. When the interview is off and it's intense, somebody is there. Because they're offsetting the balance of the energy in the room because everything is about frequency. If you understand quantum physics, you understand what I'm saying.

Somebody is messing the energy up. And that's where that's why we can have a good time. Nobody in here is a hater. The reason why I want you, the reason why I want you to celebrate, I remember reading somewhere that you said family members

in your family will only make it to 58? No, nobody past 50. Wow. So that's a come, I'm 63, but I always say I'm 64

because I put that in the universe to make sure I make it. Wow. Because it's important to me. Hell yeah. You know, and what I've learned for all my blessings I truly learned that the longer I stay here the universe will give me everything I want and deserve so I'm getting everything I want and deserve and every time

I'm challenged to make a bad decision and I do the right thing, I always get rewarded. Yeah. You know, the universe says to me, you made the right decision, we're going to reward you with this. And it's been like that my whole life, yo.

God damn. I agree. Mm-hmm. You want to explain to him Quick Time with Slam? The rules? You got it? Yeah, we're going to give you

two choices. Okay. You either pick one or the other or if you don't pick either one of them, we take a shot. Okay. So if it's politically correct and you don't want to pick we take a shot. Okay, sounds good Yep. Okay, cool. Who says it all shot glasses. Yes. I said it

We got it got it Nori in the building Tommy Davidson or Tracy Morgan oh Tommy Davidson for sure Chris Rock or Will Smith they write these questions by the way those two Columbia and Dominican

oh the little IQ thing the little IQ thing Will Smith Will Smith or Chris Rock Will Smith Compton or Jersey City Jersey City all day Will Smith or Chris Rock? Will Smith. Compton or Jersey City?

Woo, Jersey City all day. And if you got a little story for the answers, you should feel free to ask. Yeah, if you got a little story about anybody. Yeah, the reason was Jersey City for sure because I grew up in Jersey City. Right. But you moved to Compton though, right? No, I never lived in Compton.

Never lived in Compton. The reason why I give Compton a shout out on all my shows is to pay homage to Eazy-E. So at the end of my shows, I talk about Eazy and all my accomplishments, and I say, please show love to the great man, because he gave me my first national start, and that was NWA Shout Out to Compton tour.

So I always say Eazy-E because I truly feel he wouldn't have passed away. There's no telling what my life would be, but we had a contract on the table where we was going to do what we call the Ruthless Comedy. No, man, that's in my notes, man. Oh, it is? I'm sorry. You look like you and me, man. We was going to do Ruthless Comedy with Jerry Hell already signed off. Easy is signed off. That was literally my next question. I was going to say,

what would life have been like if you had... You might as well say it now. Choices is everything, right? When you see the... The only reason why you ain't go through with it is because Eazy passed away. Because he passed away. Let's just say for a second, let's imagine

Eazy was here and y'all went through with it. You said the paperwork was done. You said the paperwork was done. Yeah, the paperwork was done. Wow. It would have been insane. Wow. Because the idea that I had was going to be phenomenal. Phenomenal.

Was that after Def Comedy Jam? It was after Def Comedy Jam. So it was going to be a rival type thing. So it would have been Def Jam. It would have been ruthless. I can see that. And back then, I had the coldest young comics that represented me. It was a guy named Dudu Brown out of Atlanta.

Oh, wow. Capone out of New York City. Okay. And T.K. Kirkland. I forgot who was going to be the other person, but we was going to take the world by storm because their styles was just so phenomenal. You said yourself? Yeah.

You named yourself? Yeah, I put myself in there. Absolutely. I had to mix me. He said, yeah, T.K. Kirkland. Like, he ain't know him. Yeah, yeah. I put myself in there. Yeah, absolutely. That's what makes me. You know? Yeah, TK Franklin. Like, he ain't know him. Yeah, but it did happen.

Well, what's crazy about our business, too, is that's why I've learned in life when you have ideas, you keep them close to your heart until it comes out. Because you can have ideas. You can even get to check in our business. Right. And the shit get canceled. It don't make it. Right. It don't make it. It don't make it.

So that's how come I've learned to, even when I talk about the baby situation, I don't, I only mentioned it, but I won't go into details because I want, I want to truly wait to definitely happens. And it's going to be so big that you guys will definitely be talking about it. Well,

hell yeah. Eddie Murphy or Richard Pryor? Eddie Murphy for sure. Okay. He's answering it on me. We like that. Red Fox or Paul Mooney?

Paul Mooney. Oh, wow. Y'all want to take some of these? I'll take the next one. Fabulous or Jadakiss? Jadakiss all day. Okay. Podcasts or radio?

Oh, podcasts. It changed my life. Oh, that's what's up. Yeah, absolutely. Def Comedy Jam or Showtime as Apollo? Apollo because I never did Def Jam. That's right because you had beef with Sly Latelyn, right? Yeah. I didn't have beef with him. It was a misunderstanding.

Oh, about your credit card. That's when you was a cypher. He was the original scammer. I thought about that. He wasn't the original scammer. Everybody skips. All these little niggas out there doing scams. Let me explain to you about scamming. It's the difference from These little niggas Got to make a house All these little niggas Out there doing scams You started that shit

Let me say to you About scamming It's the difference From scamming And being in As a hustle Okay See most comedians

Couldn't travel Back in the day You was a travel agent No I was a travel agent Absolutely So when I knew Comedians couldn't Do certain things

I would book you I would fly you To where you got to go First class everything But cheaper ticket You know do certain things, I will book you. I'll fly you to where you got to go. First class, everything. But cheaper ticket. You know, because I had to connect. You know, see, in life, I tell this at my age now, I tell people, see, the government pimps the state, the state pimps the city, the city pimps the people.

And you in this life, and you don't know how to get a slice of the pie, and how to get some bread without going to prison, then you pretty much lost. Because nobody cares about you. And one thing I can tell all the men here, all the women, you do not want to be broke and old in this country. No, you don't. So, yeah, you take risk to survive. That's what life's about. I took a lot of risks back then, and I took all those bad decisions and took it and applied it to my life, right?

And that's why I'm here today. But the scamming thing was hustling, and Latham thought that I had took Russell Simmons' credit card. That never happened. That was a rumor. That was just a rumor. But he didn't believe it. So he followed it.

Even the guy who I asked, the guy who credit card I actually took. Because if you understand credit cards, and most people don't, if I took all your credit cards and went shopping. It took 30 days. When you get the bill, you can say, it wasn't me. And they're going to give you all your money back. And they'll ask do you know the person that took your

card? Well, if you don't know me, you should say nothing against me. But if I actually took your card, then that's called stealing. I never stole nobody's card. I had the ability to find your card. Oh, you didn't know the number. I was about AI before AI.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I knew about AI before people knew about AI. But it was a hustle. It's crazy how your past follows you all your life. And I tell people that no matter what was bad, always face it like a man. And that way you could never feel embarrassed. You know, like my daughters never really know my past. And when I mention it sometimes, my baby's like, but what does that mean?

And it's OK. You don't have to worry about it. But I face, I will always face it like a man. It's like when you bring it up, I don't care because of what I've accomplished to this day. And imagine you would have been on a deaf comedy jam. That's what people say. But I believe this. A lot of people have gone on a deaf comedy jam and haven't made it either.

A lot of people have gone on a deaf comedy jam and doesn't have the career that I have. A lot of people have been on a deaf comedy jam and now they're a millionaire. You see what I'm saying? It's not just about opportunity. A lot of people have been on Def Common Jam and now The Millionaire. Wow. You see what I'm saying? Good point. It's not just about opportunity. I always tell people it's 99% business. Right. I really mean that.

Right. 1% show. Was you supposed to be the host? No, I wasn't supposed to be the host. You were supposed to be the host of The Roofless one, though. I was going to be the host of The Roofless one, and I was going to probably be owner of it, because everything I do, I try to own. Right.

And Bob Sumner and Tina Graham, who worked with Russell, I was the first person that they called to do Def Jam. Wow. And I turned it down. The reason why I turned it down was a bad decision, because I didn't think you could do two things at the same time. So if everybody get a chance, Google Mo Funny comedy special in 1991. It was a documentary. And they compared,

I was the voice of the new generation. They compared me to Miles Mabley, Richard Pryor, Flip Wilson. I had like, my own segment.

And so, I didn't know that you can do both of them. And I should have did both. Because I didn't wind up doing the second Death Jam. Yeah. And it would have been phenomenal because even didn't wind up doing the second death jam. Wow. Yeah. And it would have been phenomenal because even back then my standup was insane.

Right. Yeah. My standup was insane back in 1991. It's before all these other comedians came and a lot of comedians like you ever meet a guy, you ever get a chance to meet TC. TC works for Mike Epps. If you ever meet him, I want you to interview him. And the reason I want you to interview him, I taught him the game, so many other people. And he'll explain to the world how cold was T.K. Kirkland, the root of how deep I go into this business. Yeah, he knows all the facts. Tupac or Biggie?

Woo! Take a shot? Nope, not yet. Okay. Tupac. Okay. The Sauce or XXL? Sauce all day. I got this one. Go ahead. Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton?

What type of show is this? Hillary Clinton, nigga. No, I'm fucking with you, Michelle Obama. I want to see what he's got to say. I respect everything. I'm just saying, Jay. No, no, no. Michelle Obama all day. Okay.

Yo, you see the hips on Michelle Obama? I did not. Respectfully. Yeah. Never seen him. Never seen him. See, the thing about being a man that even though a man

respects his wife or woman, you're still a man. The thing about respecting a man's woman is that you don't say nothing to her to disrespect the guy.

You know? You gotta talk about women. Yeah, and the thing about a man, so you over-respect, that's why I always tell women if you marry or engage, wear a ring.

Because a real man, when he sees a ring, he respects. When you don't have a ring on Because a real man, when he sees a ring, he respects. When you don't have a ring on your finger, you're a free agent. Yeah. So I don't know.

24-year-old? Yeah, I don't know that you marry or engage until you tell me. So your beauty drawed me in. So that's why I'm a man. I'm supposed to holler at you. You know?

I got one off script. Yeah. Keenan Ivory Wayans or Arsenio Hall? Keenan all day. Keenan, don't you. Yeah, all day. ODB or Bismarck D? Take a

shot. ODB. Oh, Jesus. You're making decisions out here. 80s hip hop or 90s hip hop? 90s all day. Okay. LL Cool J or Big Daddy Kane? LL Cool J. I thought you were going to or Big Daddy Kane? LL Cool J.

I thought you was going to pick Big Daddy Kane. I'm going to take a shot with that. LL Cool J all day. I'm going to take a shot with you. I'm going to take a shot. I'm going to take the next one. To everybody. Some grown folks here.

Al Green or Marvin Gaye? Al Green all day, Nick. Okay. Yeah. MJ or Prince? Michael Jackson. You met Michael Jackson? Yeah, I met Michael Jackson.

Oh, shit. While he was gangbanging, right? No, not while he was gangbanging. I met Michael Jackson backstage at a concert, you know? So, yeah. How old was he? I mean, I didn't know he was that short. Really?

People turn around. Yeah, he's a short guy. I didn't know he was that short. And he was a grown's a short guy. I didn't know he was that short. And he was a grown man at that time. Yeah, Mike was like maybe 5'10". But I see why they could dance so good now. Because you got to be short to have those movements. You know what I'm saying?

You can't be no tall. Yeah, when you're tall, you don't move like that. When you're short, everything is rhythm. It makes sense to me. Wow. I did not know that. That's wild. I never met Mike.

Okay. Sade or Whitney Houston? Sade all day. Oh, not Whitney? You ever met Whitney Houston? You ever met her? Yeah, no, I met Whitney Houston. Yeah, from Jersey.

Okay. I'm just saying, do you have any story about Whitney Houston? No, Whitney, how can I explain Whitney? Whitney was the type of young lady who also needed leadership. You know, because she didn't understand her success.

And the universe tested her a lot of times. And when the universe got tired of her, they had to send her back home. And she didn't get it. And it was just an unfortunate situation i wish she would have understood what gift she had not just as a singer she could have been to me um the black princess

die ah yeah lady died yeah lady died yeah yeah she definitely could have been that much loving yeah she had that much love in the world yeah but, she had that much love in the world, yeah. But as far as artist-wise, to me, Sade had the world bust. She had the world hypnotic. Yeah, she stood to the face. Yeah, everybody seduced. She seduced everybody. To this day. To this day.

To this day. I love Sade so much. I think I met her. I never met her. I know for a fact I never met her. That's how much I've been to the level. Automatic good move. Yeah.

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Yeah, that's it. Look at that. Look at that. Y'all made y'all roll back. Yeah, Go for it. Kid and play. Yes, sir. I feel like just dancing. Yeah. No, we was on tour together. That's why I'm sure. Yeah. That one. Yeah, you go.

Um, to be loved or feared. To be loved. Yo. Yeah. Yeah. To be loved. Good. You might as well be loved.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you go. To be loved or feared? To be loved, yo. All the way. Yeah, to be loved. You might as well take this, too.

Okay. For Miami. Booby Trap or Magic City? Magic City. Yeah, old times back in Magic City. It's actually Booby Trap on the river. You been to the one on the river? No, no.

Okay, okay. Yeah, never been there. N.W.A been to the one on the River? No, no. Okay, okay. Yeah, never been there. N.W.A. or Wu-Tang Clan? Oh, you already know who I'm rocking with all day straight out of Compton. Okay. NYC or Miami? NYC. We always say this is probably one of the most not trick in this whole game.

Loyalty or respect? Loyalty. Okay. Tell us why. Yeah, loyalty is something that you want to know that you could depend on someone when things are rough. You know, when you call that person, that person is solid because sometimes you just need someone. And when you reach out to that person, you want to know that they're there for you. And not too many people you can say have loyalty towards you.

I just, I really believe that. I mean, we're all getting older. Eventually, we're going to want somebody to take us to the hospital or change your diaper in the back room or be there for you to take you to the doctor who would do stuff like that for you this is some real that is not your same blood that's right until you get there yeah i'm just saying no he's talking some real shit no disrespect this ain't a game right here i think it's very serious yeah but i just saying, sometimes you go through life. Yes, sir. And you look at your blood family. Yes.

And you'll see they won't do certain things for you. So true. And then you'll find out that God gave you just a couple. Yes. See, he ain't going to give you many. Yes. You'll be shocked to see who's pushing your wheelchair. That's right. That is not the same blood as you.

And they were friends with you. They enjoyed the good times, the bad times. You like, you knew who they was. And then when you at your lowest moment. Yes. That that person.

So true. You look up and say. And everybody who's watching this show. They doing this for me? Everybody who's watching this and everybody's listening, I swear to you, if you live long enough.

Been there and seen it. You are going to see this show. You will see it. And it's going to see this show and it and it's gonna shock you when it happened so I always say pick people in your life it's a fact that you could truly that got loyalty towards you because we're in that stage

of life now we're in that stage of life I know right make some noise for that you know Thanks. Woo! I know, right? Yeah, make some noise for that. You know what's funny when Sonny D start making sense. Yeah. He's actually experiencing that somebody's in his family or close friend.

Because I could tell by the way he was talking, he actually seen him with his own eyes. And when you see it with your own eyes, it's a different feeling, yo. You can hear about it all day. When you see it when you see with your own eyes it's a different feeling yo you can hear about it all day right when you see it it's through age it's through time like you know yes you know everyone loves to have fun this and that but when it's not about fun it's about that real real real that's right because all this real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real

real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real real I'm not supposed to drink this but I'm going to get a little bit he's banned what is your birthday listen listen champagne what's one thing if you could take back

you would take back nothing I think about that I get that question asked all the time I become I don't need nobody to say it I became a great man you would take back? Nothing. I think about that. I get that question asked all the time. Right. I become, and I don't need nobody to say it. I'm going to say it. I became a great man because of everything I've gone through. Yeah.

And I take pride in saying that I'm a great man and I mean that shit. Right. Like, I love who I am. Right. Like, this shit is off the chain, yo. For real. Right.

Like, I'm loving it. Loving it. Like, besides Def Comedy jam um what's something that you missed that you that you dropped the ball on like i'll give you an example with mines early on in my career well not earlier on my career i got a chance to um i think to do to do the oyumi kanto remix over yeah with unknown rihanna. Mm-hmm. Wow. And I didn't understand at the time. So they were like, because my record was,

Boricua, Moreno, Dominicano, Colombiano. And they wanted to change it to the Caribbean. And at the time, I just didn't think it made sense. Right, right. But I had, they offered me, we could get you Rihanna. I don't know if she knows this. Right. But she wasn't Rihanna at the time

and I passed up on that. That's like the big, that shit hurt to this day. Your royalty checks. That's a million dollars, not more. Is there any opportunity that you had that

came in your hand and you dropped the ball? No. No? And I'm going to tell you why. Because I was my own manager. Right. A lot of people don't know I did Timberland's album.

Timberland? Timberland's first album. If you look at his first album, I am one. It sounds like Cap. I got to keep it real. Listen to me, dog. Google it. It sounds like Cap.

I can't Google it. Google it. Google it. Google it. I did Timberland's first album. You produced it? No, not produced it. Oh, yeah.. Google it. Google it. I did Timmy's first album. You produced it? No, not produced it. Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Oh, okay. I'm like, Timmy. I was featured on his album. Oh, okay, okay. Before he really blew up, right? Okay, okay. I did Luke's album, Luke Down Here in Miami. That's what I'm talking about.

AMG, Second to None, Toured with Ludacris, all these things I put together. If you watch the video Gwen Stefani, Blow Your Mind, watch this. It's going to fuck you up. Watch the video, Blow Your Mind. Watch it closely.

I'm the young man with the tux on playing the piano, playing the theme music. In Blow Your Mind? Yeah, yeah, Blow Your Mind. I'm the guy playing the piano with the tux.'t blow your mind yeah yeah blow your mind i'm the guy playing the piano with the sauce yeah and then the home girl she's standing right next to me and i'm looking at it like that and i'm playing the piano that's me yo okay there's no opportunity that you didn't have and didn't miss. No, no, no.

When I sit back, again, energy. Right. When it's not for you, you ain't getting it. Right. Absolutely. You know, it's the same thing I bring up with women. You know how you chase a girl and she don't give you the time of day? Right.

Yep. Men don't understand the universe don't want y'all to be together. Right. For that moment. No. The universe don't want y'all to be together right for that moment no but we start chasing because we can't take rejection but the universe is saying to you mother fuck i'm trying to explain to you this ain't the one then oh man yeah then yeah sometimes it works but no disrespect please don't interrupt me when I'm talking the fuck is wrong with me

who is talking when I'm talking y'all know how I am we know you gonna we know you gonna get there we know you gonna get there is he drinking is he drinking

we know you building it up so the universe teaches us as you go through life. And then you'll pursue and get with that person. And you realize, man, this wasn't the person for me. And sometimes it's too late because you rushed it. You had a baby. You rushed it. And you got with it.

And then some women are like, oh, you're not acting the same no more. You know, you're acting different towards me because the man has realized, baby, you ain't the one I really wanted. And I'm sorry, SX. I'm sorry that we did these things, but it's too late. So the girl feels betrayed. Right. You know, she feels betrayed. You just wanted one thing.

But it's not always like that. You see something bigger. But they change too. Yeah, some do. Some do change. That's also the universe. Yeah, that's also the universe. Because they're seeing something in you that they don't like.

The thing that we want to share with men is that rejection is not a bad thing. Because a relationship is not bad because there's always a win, right? It teaches you what you want, and it teaches you what you want to have. And that's what relationship does. And to see guys stabbing women because they won't give you a phone number. Oh, it's tough. You understand what I'm saying? No, but now that's something else.

What is wrong with a young man that you can't accept the woman not hollering at you, that you lose it to hurt a woman? Doesn't make sense. And that's why, again, this show is about leadership because they listen to us. I like that. I watch you all the time talk about relationships. I've seen you do a lot of shows. Yes. And I actually believe a lot in your philosophy

when it comes to the ladies and how men should move, how women should move and all of that. I really do. No more shots. Hold on, hold on. No, no, no. Don't listen to my friends.

No, no, no. Stay focused, man. I don't want you to lose what you're trying to say. I'm focused. Yeah. My thing is this. When it comes to men and women relationship, do you feel like marriage isn't even important anymore today? Not yesterday, not back then.

Do you even feel marriage is even a thing anymore? Or do you feel that people should move more with relationships in a business type of way? I see what you're saying. You get where I'm coming from? Yeah, I do. And there's levels to that. There are some people who really love each other and they think that's the way to get married. And I'm going to give multiple stories on that.

That's what I'm talking about. The thing about marriage is, one is finances. One is your money, right? But a lot of men don't have a lot of game, right? So instead of, when a woman says she wants an expensive ring, and I'm about to give everybody the game, so pay attention to this. Miles a night.

See, some women. a 10,000, 12,000 ring. Men go out there and bust their ass. Get them with the buzzie. But see, what we're going to start doing now, we're going to tell the young lady, no, baby, I'm going to show you my dedication to you because I'm going to take your money and put it in an annuity at three four on compound interest three times a year and in 20 years no watch where I'm going watch where I'm going and in 20 years your 10,000 will be 297,000 this is on investor.gov see the government when I was saying earlier the government pimps the state the state pimps the city see they have websites that's right there in front of us but they know people don't take the time to read this stuff.

So some women who probably been married before will understand what I'm saying. And they have. They were like, listen, I've been married for I want to be married. I need to do what with my money? I don't want you to put the money in my name. I just want to know you got the money. Baby, here's my love and dedication to you. You're going to take that.

And if we're together 20 years, good. If not, when you're with the new nigga and you're getting that new car, think of me. When you get the house and you got the down payment, think of me. Because most men don't want to give women knowledge because most of them don't have it. And I always tell men and women around the world world knowledge is a lot longer and thicker than dick

right so that's the power that's for us now no no let me now let me finish i'm gonna i'm gonna finish all my questions 20 to 45 i don't think they want to no no no you you asked me a question i want to answer you can't answer your question and answer it. You can't do that. That falls under certain... But you asked me a question. I'm trying to answer your question. All right? All right?

Stay focused. Stay focused. All right? Now, marriage also is very important as you get older. Here's why. If you're together and you're not married, that woman doesn't have no rights.

None. So if probation, probate comes in, that's when probate comes in, any crisis, the state takes it. And the woman who's been fucking you, sucking your dick.

Oh, wow. Listen, listen. Listen, I see the alcohol changing your spirit. No, I'm not saying that. Listen, I'm seeing. I'm not saying that. Okay, I see. I see the alcohol changing your spirit.

So I need you to calm down because I see something. I see something that you don't see. I see it. I see your ass changing. So let me. All right, calm down because I see something. I see something that you don't see. I see it. I see your ass changing. So let me, calm down. So marriage on that level is very important because the state won't recognize any girl living with you. You have no rights. Now if it's the man and he doesn't like his children and the children come in they

got the power it's a wrap so the whoever you marry then you want to and if you don't get married you got to have a trust a trust is more powerful than a will because the will can be um what's the word i'm looking for contested and the trust can't. They have to honor the trust. So you want that in the same sense is because you have a trust and you marry and she happens to be scandalous because these things happen or the man has to be scandalous

and you're ill and somebody can change the will. You can't change the trust. I got one last question. This relationship. This is not last question. Mm-hmm. This relationship. This is not my question. Okay. I said, somebody, I told them that you was coming.

Right. And I said, they had a question for me. Mm-hmm. They're at least 50 years old. Mm-hmm. They don't have any children. Yes. They said to me, ask him what does he feel.

About stepchildren? about a poly relationship like they know they're never gonna have kids they don't really want to get married is it do you feel like a man with a multiple like relationship with meaning do youauly meaning a guy with five ladies or four ladies or something like that I really think but it's a relationship but

meaning building his own community basically okay so sustainable it's not I think I think

listen to me I really think that's the way the world should be you think that's the way the world should I really think a man should have

more than one woman I don't know I'm kind of like what you like how Muslim world I really think a man should have more than one woman like what you like I'm Muslim yeah take care of them equally Islam is right yeah that's what I think because this way you understand if you understand colonization, Western civilization did that. They changed having more than one wife to being married. They changed everything. They changed the Bible.

They changed theology. You understand what I'm saying? So these are just the facts. We're all programmed to a certain extent in life all of us a little bit our women our women want to get married they ain't trying to have that more than one relationship it's just

the way it is we've all been programmed the thing is you find someone that believes in what you believe in lately I've been dealing with men dating younger women you know 20 years spans or whatever and i always felt that i don't like that yeah i thought you gotta let me talk you're interviewing me that's right yeah we're not interviewing you okay it's okay so um

my bad the thing the thing is i always felt that it was wrong because I felt younger women, they might look good and they might have careers, but there's still something missing, right? And I think as you get wisdom, you know how to control the climate of the room based on certain men. I like peace. Peace is mandatory to me. If you on some petty shit, if you create a lot of confusion, everything we talk about, you are saying no and you're deflecting,

that irritates me. So the people I've met in my lifetime, I'd just rather be by myself is because I really hate, because I'm a happy guy. So if I meet a woman, either you're going to make me happy or happier. But if we

going back and forth, I'd rather say to myself or just date here and there around the world because I have a great life. And to settle down with one person, you really have to be truly special. So that's how I feel. So I think, yes, a man should have more than one woman.

All my friends, I'll give you an example. All my friends in Dubai live like that. Only the ones that don't live like that, ironically, is the African-American ones that migrated there. But all of my people that live in Dubai all got fucking And now I know

financing you. Yeah. They all, and I'm going to be honest with you, they all happy. They happy. They happy.

Like, they smile. The women are happy. It's different. Yep, so true. I ain't be able to get away with it. No, no, no, no.

You ain't get away with it. But that's so true. But again, whoever listens to us, some people are going to say we crazy, some people are going to say I'm crazy.

But if your mindset is international, you understand what I'm saying. If your mind is Miami, Liberty City, Atlanta, Georgia,

Chicago, Illinois, Compton, and that's your block, your mindset is just on those blocks. This is way over your head. Right. This is way over your head.

So I'm going to switch it up a little bit. Okay. I remember Jersey City was a real, real, real rough town. Yes, it was. Due to gentrification. Yes. It's like- A whole nother fucking lot.

It's lit, actually. It's lit. It's lit. And it's like, did that affect fucking it's lit actually it's lit it's lit and it's like did that affect your old neighborhood no not yet not yet

it's on its way oh oh so your neighborhood still they like three weeks away three weeks away yeah that would be funny they on their way

they on their way they on their way they on their way they ain't got a Starbucks yet yeah they ain't got a Starbucks yet it's on its way they got a Boca Joes. Believe it or not, for at least 38 years, I would never stay in Jersey City.

Wow. I would always stay in Manhattan. Right. For that reason. One, because of how we grew up. But my brother got murdered in Jersey City by the police. My mom died in Jersey City. My father died in Jersey City by the police. Yeah, my mom died in Jersey City.

My father died in Jersey City. So it was always a negative thing in Jersey. Then one day I go to Jersey City on some nostalgia, the good nostalgia stuff to see my old neighborhood and kids got out in front of me was shooting at each other. Oh, I mean, literally right in front of me. Wow. And I'm like, ain't this a bitch I come home to visit? I'm going to be in the paper

tomorrow. TK Kirkland gets shot visiting Jersey City and I never went back until maybe four months ago. I stayed downtown. Four months ago from when? From what time? From about 38 years. Damn. But when I went, when I got back, I didn't know it was like that

oh i said whoa i'm gonna stay here more because it's a whole new vibe it was dope and i loved it and i was like man this is this is how i live because people always say don't forget where you came from and i always say do you know where i've been? You see what I'm saying? Yeah. Now, this might be a slight floss. My billionaire friend. Yes, I know you got a few. Jamie Lefrak. He actually flies his own plane to Jersey City.

Like, he runs to Jersey City. And I'll be looking at him like, you don't know the old Jersey City. Yeah, he don't know the old Jersey City. He took that plane. I was like, you don't know the old jerks. Yeah, he don't know the old jerks. They took that plane. I was like, you know what I'm saying. But I'm more impressed you know somebody that fly a plane. He flies his own plane. Yeah, he flies his own plane. Word.

Those are things that I like. We come from a certain point in the world, and we know you actually can shake a pilot's hand. You got his number. You can call him. These are things that people never think about knowing these type of people.

Well, his name is Left Frack, which means I'm from Left Frack City. Yes. He owns the whole Left Frack. Wow. Because my hood

is actually not a project. It's actually privately owned. Yes. And I now know the person who owns my whole goddamn neighborhood. It's life, bro. It's life. We want you to flow.

We want you to flow. Like we were saying earlier, our show is about giving people their flowers while they can smell them. And we want to give you your flowers once again. Thank you. Here we go. We gave you your birthday cake and we wanted to give you that.

But let me ask you. Yes. Do you, this is you, this is me asking you about this comedian. Yes. Is TK Kirkland the greatest of all time? Am I the greatest of all time? I wanted you to ask her in three person. Yeah, I'm going to do that. Third person. all time am i the greatest of all time i want you to ask for it in three person yeah i'm gonna do

that third person absolutely and i'm gonna tell you why that's cool i was gonna make some noise for that but yeah let's make the noise for that because people always say when you say who's your greatest comedian people always say, when you say, who's your greatest comedian, people always say Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy. Right. But most of these comedians never met those people. So they say it just to say it. See, I came up with Michael Williams, Robin Harris.

We didn't have the improvs or the funny bones. We had a rent out a hall and we named it the Comedy Act Theater. And all the great comics came through there. The Jamie Foxx's, the Dave Chappelle's, the Keenan and Ivy Wayans's. Everybody came through there. Then I took that because I'm always a businessman. And I sprained off and had six clubs that gave comedians opportunities to perform before they went into the world. And I was a hard, like I was a soldier.

If you bombed, I would curse your ass out when you was on stage. I would give comedians confidence on how to stand in front of, say, you could ask Chris Spencer. You could ask most comedians that came up during me, I gave them the confidence on how to become a great comedian. Then when I snatched up Gio Hugli and Godfrey and Mike Epps and TC, I gave them the blueprint to be a businessman.

All these, everybody that came under my wing is a multi-millionaire. Everybody, it ain't even a maybe. And so I took that. But I also came through the streets. So the streets was my blueprint. I took that, gave it to those guys, and they're still working to this day. And that's why I say not just I made those guys rich.

I opened the doors up for most of of comedians because some are independent. Some feel they need an agent or manager. And I still to this day try to explain them one-on-one math. It's like if I come to, if you're an artist and I come to you and I say, you know, I got a show for you. And you go, well, talk to my agent. Well, you just took 20%. You just gave 20% to somebody else. Right off the rip.

And my thing is like, y'all came to you. You completely, most people can't put their own show together. Most people don't know they worth. I teach people to know they worth. I teach people how to negotiate a deal. And one of my rules is,

this happened years ago at the Kentucky Derby, it was me, Chris Tucker tucker and aj johnson we like the floss yeah we had a show and the um it wasn't that crowded so it was only a little bit of money left but everybody started screaming when i went in the room first because they knew i was going to get all the money and my rule is there's a dollar on the table, I'm getting 99 cents. I don't know what you're going to do with that penny. So I'm walking out with my bread. And even when people owe me money, and there's certain comedy

clubs that owe me money, and I always charge them $1,000 a week for every week that they late paying me. And I do this to this day. Okay. So let me get, bounce around a little bit. Going back to the Cat williams um yes sir right um there's a part where he talked about earthquake yes and he says that uh earthquake never got movie

roles because earthquake couldn't weed yes i remember looking at the internet and saying damn every that's that was like kind of where they said he went too far. So it's a two-part question. One, was that going too far? And then two, is there ever, do y'all live by that? Because if rappers go at each other, and it's two people who respect each other, they'll respect those certain boundaries. Yes. But if they hate each other, they gonna try to make up bring up your old baby mother pictures they're gonna try to like they're gonna try to really hurt you so i agree

is is one i think it's too far but again here's the facts of the entertainment world let's start with knowledge first right if i told everybody here right now to go do a a term paper or on the the success of the black man and black actor, black actors in Hollywood, you will come back with a horrible story. Because the myth is you think that everybody that's black in Hollywood is making it, and they're not. See, when Cat is talking about TV roles, I don't know what he's talking about.

Because those things don't exist. You had more TV shows in the 90s than you do now. When I'm on social media and I'm telling people that Hollywood is not for the black man because we don't have shows no more. People say, well, Martin Lawrence comes on.

I'm saying, yo, those are reruns. Those are not. People think those are new shows? I'm thinking new shows. There's no new black shows that come on that promotes college, that promotes family. There's none of those shows. None of those shows on. And nobody pays attention to that.

So Hollywood has pushed the black man into a corner to distinct. You can't even see us now. Yeah, you got BET, but no disrespect. BET is not you're not respected on BET even the way they pay you is not respected so yes to the average fan when you walk off these sets from a BET show you feel like you're doing something but you're really not getting no bread so then when people get older you start start saying, yo, I thought you was rich. You don't have Medicare. Your family's not around.

You're not living in a decent home. Because nobody knows how to hustle. Nobody knows how to get money other than on these shows. And you have to use your platform to get other opportunities. The same way rappers, when y'all get your albums, you go into the liquor business. You go into makeup. You go into fashion.

Comics and actors don't think that way. When you see Terrence Howard talk about he got $12,000 for Hustle & Flow. When you see Taraji Henderson, who I really feel got played, and let me tell you what got played. The budget of her movie is $167 million for Benjamin Button.

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well no no no let's stay focused because we're going down another path I wasn't finished what I was saying yeah so the thing with that is with the agency to me I don't know who agency is so they can't sue me so they told her she to do it for 150 because here's the play you're doing it with Brad Pitt it's going to change your career and she fell for it. But at the end of the day, you're supposed to get your bread. And I always tell people, you get what you negotiate. And at the end of the day, there's no friends. I always say, keep a Republican.

And the keep a Republicans always get the money. You know, now, am I Republican? No. But I always say, keep a Republican because you're supposed to keep it business and stop trying to be people's friends. You said earlier, I don't remember the latter part, but you said it's 99% business and 1% show. Yeah, because it's all about business, about relationships. It's about your hustle. It's about do you get up early and want to go do radio?

Are you strong enough to do your interviews? Are you strong enough to show up at Drink Champs? You know, are you strong enough to be in front of the camera to let people know, what are you willing to do for a six? What are you prepared to do if you want it that bad? And a lot of people don't get that, and then when they do get it, they abuse it. And it's taken away from them.

I really appreciate this shit. This is from Jack Thriller. You know Jack Thriller? I know him very well. That's my man. He said, last time you said you were going independent and don't need Netflix. But now you're lobbying saying that a Netflix special. What's the change between then and now?

Yeah, the fans. Because I see that the fans does not understand comedy IQ. They really think you're supposed to be on Netflix to be successful. And that's not true. No, it's not. I got my own network. I promote's not. I got my own network. I promote TK. I got my own special.

I'm the only one that do Netflix for the people. It's going to be a people's thing. And that's why when I do get it, God willing, it's going to be

one of the greatest shows they've ever seen in stand-up is because everybody knows how great I am as a comedian. These are just facts. But until then, I'm going to continue

putting out my own specials. I'm going. But until then, I'm going to continue to put out my own specials. I'm going to continue being independent. I'm going to continue to eat because, like I said, what's my rule? We stay low-key and flex occasionally. So, you know, I'm getting the bread. It's just that you don't see it on the Netflix because we're programmed, again, to think to make it. You've got to be on Netflix. And there's some horrible comics on Netflix.

Horrible. Have you watched it? Yeah. And then, too, they repeat the same comics. Like, there's no more comedians out there. And they need to give opportunities to fresh, new faces to give them opportunity to shine. Because there's a lot of young comics out there that's very, very talented. Because I once heard you say the thing about Netflix is they give you a bulk of money. They give's a lot of young comics out there that's very very talented because i once heard you say um the thing about netflix is they give you a bulk of money they

give you a bunch of money is that true you don't get no residuals at all see the thing i i guess i'm a control freak when it comes to business i like to answer my phone i like making decisions what picture i'm gonna be on my cover what time i'm going to be there. Netflix, they own everything. They pay you one time. One time. They tell you what date is coming out. You can't call nobody and ask questions. They don't promote it. They just put it up. They hope that your fan base

leads you. It does what it does. That's what they do. At this point right now, I don't like it, but when I do get my special, eventually, I'm going to do something totally different than no other comic has done. Because in rap, we got something called one-off. Yes. It's just one deal.

You wouldn't be interested in that? Like, all right, cool. Let me just write this just for Netflix. This is my one special that I might not own, but it might be worth. No, no, no, no. I don't do those things. Okay, yeah? Yeah.

Hell no. Yeah. No, no, no. Yeah. No worth no no no i don't do those things okay yeah yeah no hell no yeah no Netflix and then when his fucking book is coming out. Yeah, now the book deal is in the works. And Charlemagne is behind that. Charlemagne. And the book is called Who Raised You? And it's not going to be your typical book. It's not going to be about my past experiences. Who Raised You is going to be the manual to life. It's going to be the manual to life. It's going to be something that you can read.

And it can help you after we're dead and gone. It's going to be one of them things that your kids' kids can read, and it'll still help them with their life. I think you'll do real good in that lane because, like I said before, there's a lot of philosophies that you have that I 100% agree with. Yes, thank you so much. He thinks you should teach relationship class. Yeah, I get that a lot about relationships. But one... That's how I'm grown, man. Over 50, eat for free.

Put that in the book. Yeah, some people... Yeah, it's been a great... It's a great journey. And I believe you shouldn't write a book until you're in your 50s or 60s anyway. Because I think you have to have so much experiences.

You know, people share something that happened to them, but that's not wisdom. Wisdom is that, to me, 50, 55 years, you've been through so much, you've got something to say. That's just me. You think you could be a marriage counselor? Yeah, even though I'm not married, I could be a marriage counselor

because you hear people talk about um how can Steve Harvey be a marriage counselor I mean uh give advice on marriage he's been married three times and it's not true the person who's been married three times know what it took to get right and now that's experience so you you make mistakes to get become better people always think you you're supposed to get become better people always think you you're supposed to hit this home run out the park on the first time that's not true that to think that way is wrong to think that when you a person says he has been married three times meaning he figured it out he got it right and that's the person you want to listen to because they've been through something and we all got to know and this is one rule i can't teach you nothing i haven't been through nothing and that's the key

you can't teach nobody that you ain't been through it right because like him right here he'd be trying to give advice on kids he ain't got no goddamn kids yeah he's like shut up he's got no kids but that's all right as long as he don't drink, he's an amazing guy. When he drinks, this right here flares up. I need it to flare up. How many times? I've been giving advice for a long time. And I told you I'm on your side.

Yes, I rock it with you. Yeah, yeah, I rock it with you, dog. Just kidding. Yeah, I rock it with you. So there's one more question for Jack. Yes. He said, what was the difference between you getting with rappers or why wouldn't you get with someone like Dave Chappelle and produce that? That's a good question. I think that I understood the rap game.

You know, you guys, y'all was about unity. Y'all was about making sure people aid and was on. And I respected that. And that's how I went down that path of hip hop. I mean, think about how blessed I am. I mean, a kid from Jersey City, right? I go to LA. I meet Eazy-E.

Wow. Right? Then I rock with New Yorkers. I meet Eric Von Zip. I meet Haitian Jack, Frankie B, right? So my 35th birthday party, I wind up meeting Jay-Z. I pay him $1,500 to do my birthday party. That turns around, he gets me

on the Hard Knock Life Tour. Then from the Hard Knock Life Tour, as we travel, I meet Nelly. I start touring with Nelly. Then when I'm down in New Orleans, I meet a young man who walks up to me and says, what up, Walter? You know, it's Baby from the Cast 20 Millionaires asking me to be in Baller Blocking. Then from Baller Blocking, I go on the Rough Rider Tour.

I meet DMX and Eve. When I meet DMX and Eve, I meet Gwen Stefani. When I meet Gwen Stefani, I meet Madonna. Go on tour with Madonna. Then I also tour with Patti LaBelle, Frankie Beverly and Maze. Like I put, I used to take money and put concerts together for these type of people. So I was taking money because I wanted money to come from all different directions. I was financing concerts.

Comedians never knew I was paying for it. R&B people didn't know I was paying for it R&B people didn't know I was paying for it so on Monday and Tuesday when the money was coming in I was killing the game because I was everywhere but I couldn't go to this top of this mountain and say y'all talking about this shit nigga

nigga we all should see what the fuck I'm doing and then I had a baby mama that was real thirsty so I had to really act like I was broke because he was really, I know they would try to get the bread. It's just the way it was in my life, yo. So all those things taught me to shut up, stay low key, flex occasionally. And I'm flexing on my birthday on your show.

That's right. That's right. I mean, that's what I mean. You have no idea how I have framed them. Then I'm alive. I got grandchildren. I'm on your show. We's right. That's right. I mean, that's what I mean. You have no idea how I have framed him that I'm alive. I got grandchildren. I'm on your show.

We got the cakes. We, it's a beautiful feeling, yo. This is, it's like, you know, it's like a brotherhood

of our own shit. You feel what I'm saying? That's right. Like we sit there chopping up at a, like a cigar lounge. That's right. That's right.

You know what I'm saying? So that's what I love. So look, let me ask you because like when I have rappers on here or artists on here I ask them what is their favorite writing the record or performing the record in your case

it's a little different because you actually manage yourself right so I want to ask you a little different do you enjoy more collecting the money as a manager as managing yourself

or hitting that stage I love them both but let me tell you why I love this if I'm doing the club it's not a one-niner or one-niner

from Thursday to Sunday I'm a comedian that Sunday night I'm the manager because I got to go in the office to get the bread so I do it all you the manager Cause I gotta go in the office To get the bread

So I do it all You go in there yourself? I go in there myself You do it a lot man I go in there myself And these are glass by the way That I shake So I go in there

And look at the numbers You know we go down and everything Who you want this made out to I tell who I made it out to If it's that look right, I say, oh, what about we missed, we missed X, Y, and Z, travel, blah, blah, blah.

TK, you're right. We make the adjustments. And I'm like, it was nice meeting y'all. And I go on about my business. You know what I'm saying? And I'm the driver. I'm a car picker.

My car's in the parking lot. How about security? I walk to that in the parking lot How about security How about security Need security for what Okay but I'm saying You're charging for security You don't need the charges though right Has the management ever had a

Beef with the artist part Of you No no Yeah yeah Yeah yeah But I don't need security I'm not saying't need security. I'm not saying you need security, but is it on the bill?

No, no, no, no, no. I'm not here to take advantage of people. No, it's not taking advantage of people. No, no, no. You're not like anybody. But security doesn't come out from them paying you. Security will come out if I had the money and I paid them out of what I made. And then I pay out. That's the difference between a manager, successful manager, and a person talking out of turn

not knowing what they talking about, right? Who raised you? Who raised you? Did you see the Bob Marley movie? I thought it was amazing. You saw it, right? I saw it. You remember it was a part of the movie where he flips on the manager. He says, yo, this was Africa. It's not a money play, man.

You know what I mean? I always felt like that about Puerto Rico. You know what I mean? Because I'm half Puerto Rican. Yes. And any time a show came due for Puerto Rico, they got me for the love. They got me for the love. They got me for the price. Right. As the manager,

is there somewhere the artists be wanting to go, but the management is like, it ain't right, so y'all ain't working around? That's a good question. Yeah, yeah. I'm talking about both of y'all. I am.

Yeah. I would pretty much, I've done pretty much everywhere because of friendship. Right, okay. And actually been on stage mad at myself that I took that fucking deal. No way. I ain't going to lie.

Did you flip it on your management? No, in my head. But I said, let me just get the work done and get out of there because being friends with someone will put you in bad situations. Being friends. You go somewhere and you're saying to yourself, my fans is looking at me like, what? What you doing here?

But they done knowing you did something for a friend. A favor. You know what I mean? You did a favor, right? And that has, but now, over the last two or three years,

I haven't, I haven't done, even though it's money, because you got to remember, I make a lot of money doing my shows, but even when people got. You got to remember, I make a lot of money doing my shows. But even when people got $7,000 or $8,000, right, I'll take it because it was the one time I wasn't making that kind of money. And it was also a time I worked 40 hours a week.

That's when it benefits you to be your own. Yes. Yes, I understood 40 hours a week and you come home at the end and you get paid every two weeks and you only come home with $1,500 a month. I don't know about nobody else's salary. I couldn't live. I spend that in a day. $1,500 a month. So I go get the bread. That's why I invest in me.

People always ask me about what do I invest in? And I always talk about stocks and I always talk about the great thing to invest in if anybody's listening is always invest in something that you actually use if you go to that gas station

all the time right and you see Chevron invest in Chevron because if you got the mindset as me guess what y'all work for me so when you see the prices go up on things

like yo okay I love that you know I'm about to get a little dividend check said to me, guess what? Y'all work for me. So when you see the prices go up on things like, yo, okay, I love that. I'm about to get a little dividend check. So I always tell people to invest in things that you use. I don't care if it's Target. I don't care if it's Walmart. And then you don't need an agent to invest your money. They got a thing called Stash. You can go in there and read it and you find out what you want to invest in. You put a few dollars in and just see how it goes. You can really do things yourself because I get people. Through the bank. Fidelity and all of them reaching out to me.

And I had to explain to the lady. I said, so I worked hard my whole life to turn all this over to you for you to make a decision about my money, whether it works or not. You still get 3% whether it works or not. I said, no, man, I better make my own decision. They're bigger, but you can control it. I don't want nobody, I can't do that. You don't want them to do nothing. I can't

give somebody a lot of money and let them control my savings. You see the stories in life where people get robbed? We really work hard for this yo like i said i'm 63 i mean i still got some infamy but it took 40 years to get this right i think let me tell you no no i thought bitcoin bitcoin was wrong until four days ago. I swear, it was four days ago. Let me tell you why.

I didn't know Bitcoin was you set it up, you put money in Bitcoin and you can take the money out whenever you want to. I didn't know that. I really thought Bitcoin was you put your money and you never really saw it. And if something happened. You can't talk to nobody. But that information was wrong. That information was wrong. Bitcoin is, if you invest in Bitcoin, your goal should be, like I put money in stock and it doesn't exist to me.

Does that make sense? Yeah. Like I don't care about whatever happens, happens. That's a good, everybody can't do that. Just for the long run. Yeah. whatever happens, happens. That's a good, everybody can't do that. Just for the long run. Yeah, whatever happens, happens with that. But I'm doing good at that. It's the same thing with Bitcoin.

If you're going to be in there, you shouldn't do nothing to get rich. You should just do it really for a great conversation amongst men. And you say, yo, did you talk about, did you see Bitcoin today? I think those things are good amongst men having conversation. That's what I feel. But you like Bitcoin more. I wouldn't, I'm not going to give advice for Bitcoin,

but if I had to rock with Bitcoin, I don't see nothing wrong with it. If you can pull your money out when you want to, because you can pull your money out and send it right to Cash App, and you're good. I don't see nothing wrong with that. But I was against it. It came out a couple of days ago. I got Ethereum see nothing wrong with that. But I was against it

and it came out a couple days ago. I got Ethereum. We found that picture. That was that picture, right? Show them the picture. Show them the picture of him at the Grinch staff party. You ain't playing about the glasses.

No, they really glasses. I just had to do something fly. That's it? Yeah, that it up. That's it? Yeah, that's me. That's it? That's me. Make sure you put that on the camera. Absolutely, yeah.

That was the lion. Yeah, yeah. See that? See that? Playing the piano. I got it. I got it. Yeah, that was a good look.

If you had a chance to do it all over, right? And people came to you. I don't know if this is going to sound crazy because this is a big thing, like in comedians. Well, not even comedians, in black actors' world. And they wanted to put you in a dress. Hmm. I love this question. And I don't want to,

just think about it, because it is still acting, right? They just wanted to put you in a dress, but this is the stigma of once a person gets successful, especially black actors, they put them in a dress. Yes. If someone came to you and said, TK, look, this is going to be the most amount of money you make.

You're not going to be that way. It's just we're going to put you in for this scene, 20 minutes. Would you do it? It all depends on the price. I think there's a price for embarrassment. Embarrassment or humiliation? Same thing. Yeah?

Yeah. It's a price. And what I mean is, how much pain or embarrassment are you willing to take? So someone said 20 million. All right. For 20 minutes? 20 million, dog. We're going to be embarrassed.

We're going to be embarrassed. You know what I'm saying. We're going to be embarrassed. We're going to be embarrassed. You know what I'm saying? We're going to be embarrassed. Don't get me wrong. I already know what you're saying. When I hear stories of people wearing dress, just lately, that became a bad problem. But I'm going to take people way back. This is way before Madea.

This is way before Madea and way before Martin Lawrence. There was a man from Jersey City, New Jersey, named Flip Wilson. He used to do a show called Gerald. He used to do a character called Geraldine. The devil made me do it. And he was one of the most phenomenal comedians and doesn't give him. They don't give him his flowers the way he should. And if you ever get a chance and watch the show, Flip Wilson, that's the name of the

show, and there's a character named Geraldine. No one ever tripped. No one ever complained. He was in a dress? He was in a dress. He dressed up like a woman and messed with men on the show. It was hilarious. Wow.

This has been done. My point that I'm making in life, as long as you know who you are, as long as you know who you are, as long as you're a woman, if you got a woman, as long as you know who you are, and like I said, $1,000 ain't worth being embarrassed. Right.

$10,000 ain't worth being embarrassed. $10,000 ain't worth being embarrassed. $20 million is worth to say, kiss my ass. I don't care what you think of me. And my price will be $20 million. People say, oh, you're easy to sell your soul. No, I'm a man. I made it to be 60-something years old. Can't nobody tell me nothing.

I'm president of the Home Owners Association. You understand what I'm saying and then Martin like Martin had a great show on he played Sinead forgot who it was but Jamie Foxx Jamie Foxx

Wanda no one never said nothing great stuff listen we never said nothing about that it was hilarious like yeah

Robin Williams Robin Williams at the end of the day Listen, we never said nothing about that. It was hilarious. Right. Yeah. By the way. By the way. By the way. At the end of the day, the world, the society has changed. Right. Society has changed. The mindset has changed. Dustin Hoffman.

You know, again, we get influenced depending on who's the speaker. Right. Again, we get influenced by who is programming us. Sure. At the end of the day, if you're a man, you know you're a man, I wouldn't care what nobody say, as long as the price is right. Because like I said,

a thousand ain't worth it. I'm just being honest. A million dollars. If you're going to do it, do it. But if you're in the millions, I'm talking about millions. Because 25 years, 20 years from that moment, nobody will care you was in there.

Madea is a billionaire. Laugh now. Billionaire. He don't even associate with the peasants that's complaining. That's who's complaining. The peasants with the low IQ. The peasants with the low IQ. The person with the low IQ. You think he cares?

They saying the man got his own runway outside the plane landing in his backyard. You think he cares? His own studio. Yeah, his own studio. That's what I mean by being a leader. That's a lie. Because I also heard you say the statement that men are the new woman.

Yeah. Now, men are the new women. I agree with you on that. Somebody said to me on Instagram today, where are they at? But see, that's, again, somebody who's local. You don't travel the world. Right. When you travel and you see it.

And I don't know if it's because of opportunity. I don't know if it's the way the world has set up. I just um, I hate what I I see All right I hate to see at the cash register the guys behind the woman he holding the why she's going in her wallet to pay You know, it's like a strike of a credit card That's just me, But the world's changing. This is why people my age, we have to die. Watch some stuff.

No, live to 100. Watch what I'm about to tell you. If our great-great-grandparents are alive right now, some of the stuff we do today, we would consider insane if they didn't do that during their time. Well, the world evolves. And people who think like

me have to leave here eventually is because our way of thinking is old-fashioned. Our way of thinking is outdated. And the world is changing. And if you don't stay with it, you are considered old or a dinosaur or old-fashioned.

So eventually, this is why we have to move on to make a new way for the new things that's come. Like right now, artificial intelligence is about to take over. People don't see it. No, no, it's taking over. A hundred years ago, it was transportation. When cars came in, a hundred and seven years ago, it was the airplanes. It changed the world.. It changed the world. Boats changed the world.

See, the boat business took out the ferries, because before you had bridges, the ferries used to take you from one part of the state to the other before bridges. So bridges put a lot of people out of business. Cars put a lot of cabs out of business. Uber put a lot of cabs out of business. So put a lot of calves out of business. Uber put a lot of calves out of business. So things evolve, and that's what life is.

And you get in where you fit in. You understand life, and it is what it is, my man. Yeah, it is what it is. Let me bounce around a little bit. Right now, a lot of people are getting famous fast. Yes. Well, what consider famous? Okay. Temporary. What is relief? Right now, a lot of people are getting famous fast. Yes. Well, what consider famous?

Okay. Temporary. What is relief? Social media famous. Okay. A lot of people have used social media and have prospered. And I remember having Mike Epps on the show, and I remember having a comedian that is an Instagram comedian. Yes.

Renu Brown. who's my man. I'm a fan of him. But it was like, he wasn't ready for Mike. Mike, and what's the other? I think that was TC. I think that was TC. No, TC is short. Okay, now you're the next time. I mean, they tore him up

like immediately. Whether he knew it or not, I guess that they was teaching him a lesson. Right. Right? When you see these Instagram comedians, can you see the real funny in it? Or it's like... Here's what social media did for comedians. They got the millions of fans that all of us have been searching for our whole career.

Right. Because to be popular, you need fans. Right. Well, social media got them to get fans immediately. The curse is most of them don't have the talent. That's the key. Because they rushed maybe 10, 15 years of success. Yeah.

They didn't do it like us. They didn't do it like us. So they have the fans. They don't have the talent. But what's so great about this is that they are getting better. So the longer they stay in the game, the talent will meet the fans. So, yeah, they'll catch up to it. It's just a reverse situation.

If you about that life. If you about the life. If you're going to put the work in, you'll do it. Social media has been great for me because over the last two or three years, I understand numbers. I really didn't care before. That's why I didn't apply myself to social media. But it's the way of the world now.

It changes the game. It changes your contract. It changes who comes to see you perform. And I want everybody to see me because I think I'm that good. So I want everybody to see me. So yes, I want to get my numbers up. Yes, and now I've found the way to give a message on my social media about positivity about life about doing

the right things and people listen to me and it's all positive and I love that I love that that's good um I remember during COVID right I was in I happen to be in LA uhA. I don't know if it was Care People Direct or it was my agency that I am down with. So there's like, hey, you know, Care was doing a private, you know. Function. Yeah. And it's like, so he actually had a, like, he came and worked on material, but it was like private. Okay, I understand. like he came and worked on material but it was like private okay understand it was private and i was like is that more effective than going to the clubs because because because at the end of

the day some of them were personally invited because of covid it was covid right it was like a very intimate thing right so he came and this is i forget what special it was. He worked on, like he literally worked on us as the special. Right. Right. And I was like, holy shit. Is that something you do or what do you think is more effective? That's my question. Is you inviting your homies to come sit down or people that you associate with to come sit down and work on material or you go into the actual clubs and work on that material?

I think I should go in the clubs, but after you've done as long as I have, I haven't written a joke on a piece of paper in probably 30-something years. Wow. All my stuff is in my head. And I just have the ability now just to go on stage and just talk and make it funny.

If I've been off a week, what I do is I go to a club that's, maybe I have to do like six shows, but I could do an hour and 30 minutes like nothing. But I call that boot camp. So that's what I just did this weekend. So now I'm preparing for my tour next week. April 12th, 13, 14 people at the Philadelphia Punchline. Make sure you get your tickets on Live Nation. So I just have that ability to do it. 1414 people at the Philadelphia Punchline. Make sure you get your tickets on Live Nation. And so I just have that ability to do it. And that's why I can't wait to really do a Netflix special.

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no no no they don't know yet. But I want that. And like I said, I'm not in competition. I just want people to see where my mind is. I want people to see that after all this time, after all this time, because most of the people, I probably dated your mother and your mother never...

You know, your mother... You know what I'm saying? I like that you say that because guess what? That's how I feel. Right. Because we there. Right. But no disrespect.

Yeah, but I'm going to share this with you again. And then listen to me very carefully. Probably got your mom. I respect this for a second. But listen, listen, listen. Sorry. You know my dad? Well, guess what?

I'm sorry. I'm being interviewed. The show is not about you. Who raised you? Again, listen, listen. I was raped by fools. See the alcohol? See how the alcohol is doing to you?

I'm going to tell him next time I have you on the show. Because you trying to get some followers or something. I don't know what you're talking about. You know what I'm saying? I apologize. Today is my birthday.

Can I shine? Can I shine? It's my day. You a dog. You a dog. You got to be quiet. You know what I'm saying? Can we cut now?

Can we cut now? You a dog. I'm out. Let me take a drink with you. You a dog. You a dog. You a dog. You a dog. You a dog. You a dog. You know what I'm saying? Can we cut him? Can we cut him? You're my dog, man. So, yeah, let me take a drink with you.

So I saw you. Hold on, let me get this one real quick. So I saw you on Bill Bellamy podcast. Yes, love him. Shout out to Bill Bellamy. And he said something that resonated with me because I remember me being that good at performing at one point. But he said, it was well known that no one wanted to come on after that.

That's so true. Was that a gift or a curse? Because just think about it. You're absolutely right. You know what I mean? It was a curse. If I know you're going to beat me, why do I even want to take the show with you? Let me tell you something.

It took me years to figure that out. Okay. Which gift or curse? To go on stage and destroy them okay it didn't win you don't win that way win that way okay because i was doing that to everybody and nobody and people was blowing up instead just entertaining the cat williams i was destroying these young men i can't get on the show so i'm not eating the way I want to eat so that's what forced me

into using my money from hustling to put stuff together to eventually be not doing things illegally I had to create my own shows

I used to fly when comedians would perform I would tell the promoters especially if I knew they didn't like me being on the show I I'd say, listen, do not tell that comic I'm performing. Wow. Just let me do a guest spot.

Wow. I would fly in. They wouldn't let the people know I'm performing in the back. Wow. I'll come on and be rocking. I'd start seeing the lights blinking to get me on. They heard me. That means the comic heard me perform.

Right. They want to get me. Not that they didn't like me right they just knew i was that good but i had to sneak in and do shows dog and then the community the promoter will book me the next time because i was the i stole the show and that's how i wanted to get my money i did that year after year after year and now I'm booked because I'm the manager. Right. I'm booked for the next 10 years. Wow. Damn.

I know exactly what, because when I book myself, they got to book me for the following year. And then when I go that year, I book myself again. So even my deal with Live Nation, it's for 10. It's for 10 years. I told them I want to do it for 10 years. Am I going to make this to 74 years old

or 73 I hope so because this this stuff keeps you young it keeps you wanting to work out every day and going jogging

and staying at the best hotels and if you're single you know you keep a fly bitch breathing because when Bill listen Bill Bellamy when he said it to you that's another

comedian yes like so i'm looking and i'm like wait a minute that had to be that had to be a car remember me i'm glad you said that because it's so true me me about to perform one time and a promoter literally had to come up to me and was like, yo, he does not want to go on I'm after you. Like, please, can you switch the online, you close, because I wasn't supposed to be the headline. Right. The dude, and he's like he threatened to give the money back.

Wow. And I'm like don't worry about it, I'll go and I'll do what I have to do. Is there anybody who's ever said to a promoter man if tk on the show i'm giving the money back they didn't give the money back but they threw their code noise it was cat williams what i did a show with cat in st louis got there the promoter said the cat was right next room right next to me and the promoter came he said cat said he wanted to

go on before you and i know he heard me, nah, that nigga said he the headliner. Because everybody knew what I was about to do. I said, nah, that nigga the headliner. He closes the show. It's a fact. And I went on and destroyed that mug. And after the show, Cat went on. He did like five minutes.

He gave people $100. And he threw his coat in the audience and walked off the stage. Five minutes he did. His coat. He threw a big coat. He threw his, yeah, yeah, that's, that's coke. His coat. Yeah, yeah. This is Miami.

He's crazy. Oh, I kill. And there's no, and then make sure I'm clear. I'm not throwing shade on Cat Williams. Let's make sure we understand. I'm not throwing shade. I love Cat. These, these are just things that truly happen.

Just actually happen in St. Louis, Missouri. And I love Cat. I never worked for him since then. But I don't need to work with nobody. I do my own thing. He took your material. How about Dave Chappelle? What's your relationship with Dave?

I haven't seen Dave Chappelle in years. But I love what he's doing. How can you not like what he's doing for comedy? I think he's amazing. When you sit and watch his stories, he has you hooked because you want to see where he's going with it. And then when he hits you with it, you go, wow. That was because in your head,

you think he's going to say something else as a comedian, but it shows his true talent when he totally flips it and go another direction. I think y'all are similar in that way. Exactly. I agree. I agree with you 1,000%. Mine is more like a street perspective, but yeah, it's almost the same.

Y'all are very similar. I know I asked something like this earlier, but is there ever a too soon joke? Yes, absolutely. Yeah. You've been with Haitians for, like you've been good with Haitians for a long time. Me and Haitians, let me tell you how mean, how mean tight Haitian Jack is. I did a show in Queens.

And a guy in the front was talking stuff. They threw something on the stage. And somebody told Haitian he had owned a barbershop next to the rest of the club. It was called Manhattan Proper. Now, everybody know how gangster Haitian Jack is. Haitian came in over with crew and took the boy out to the audience and made sure he talked to him

about who he was. And from that moment on, we was the best of friends. And he was, I'm talking about he was really going to hurt this guy over something like that. And we wasn't even friends then.

He had just seen me on shows, doing comedy shows. And he liked my style of comedy. And the rest is history. That's why I know we all have a reputation. I always show men the utmost respect. Because of their past. We all have a past.

And we grow to become great men. And his past was his past. And I always show him love. Because, you know, even down the shug, you know, they was always good to me. And if you're good to me, I'm always going to show you respect. You know, you just,

the choices you made, choices you made. Yes, sir. All right. You say you're going to Philly editorial. Yeah. Baltimore.

Is it ever too soon? You know how they just had the cargo ship at the Key Bridge. Is that a system? Is it like that? Is that too soon to touch on? Well, I would never talk about the Baltimore situation because no disrespect,

there's nothing funny about the Baltimore Bridge. It was really a true, tragic situation. I don't think anybody could find anything funnier now. You know, there's 9-11 jokes. I was a young buck when... Yes, I don't even know how you can put that. I talk about material and I talk about 9-11

but it goes with the government pimps the state, the state pimps the city, the city pimps the people, right? I use 9-11 to show you how the government can manipulate you to think that a foreign country attacked us when it was our own people who did it.

Because they did that to the World Trade Center and blaming on, what's his name? Sazan? No. Sazan. What's his name? Bin Laden. Bin Laden. They blamed it on him.

But if you understand now. You got low IQ right there. No, no. I just messed up the word. I just messed up the word. The storyline was good. I had to get you back. Yeah.

Everything was, yeah. And that up the word. The storyline was good. I had to get you back. Yeah, everything was there. And that's the thing. So when people, again, are manipulated, the game can change because you've got to be knowledgeable. And that's where we have our... So that's what I would have did about... But the bridge thing was just a tragic situation. What I love about what they did in the bridge, even though those young boys died, the thing that they did was they made the phone call to say, get the people off the bridge because they knew they was going to hit. And people who worked there just was slow getting those kids off the bridge because they was they was on the bridge when they was making the call.

So they stopped the traffic on one side, but the other, they almost didn't get those people. So there's people that, they're not going to be able to save those people. Do you know they're going to leave those people in the water? They can't go get them because the water is 60 feet down, and they can't get them. So these people are there.

They are never going to recover their bodies. Never. That's the issue. And it's cold on the bridge inside. Yeah, yeah. They was in, the people still in their cars. They're not's cold down the bridge. Yeah, people are still in their cars. They're not going to get them out. I think

his question was something like that you can't make fun of. I wouldn't do it. No matter how long. Even though people do have 9-11 jokes. I don't think people have 9-11 jokes. At least I've never seen it. Like I said, I would drop. I would give educational information

about a government yeah people do have it there's a comedian named Sam Kinister do you remember him? Sam Kinison can I finish the story? it's my story

it's my story it's my story it's my story god damn it's my store. It's my store. The fuck? It's my store. I bought it. It's my store. It's my store. Damn. It's my store. It's a good one. Didn't I mention the name? He got what he got.

He's got a run for it. It's my store. It's my store. Sam used to talk about religion. Uh-huh. About God and him getting hammered on the cross. And one day Sam was on the 405 freeway. He had a flat tire and a car swerved over and hit him and he died.

So one thing I never talk about on stage is church jokes. I think it's a bad karma. Church jokes or religion? Religion jokes. I think it's a bad karma that comes back. Church jokes or religion? Religion jokes. Anything about Jesus. I'll talk about church jokes. I'll talk about how I used to be the candle guy in church or now that I'm successful,

church has changed because now they got the people with the security thing in the ear and they got the cameras. One day I came in late and I put a little the thing in the ear and they got the cameras and one day i came in late and i put a little few dollars in the offering and this guy knew it was a couple cars following me from the church and they pulled me over and they said mr kirk can we talk to you for me i said what's wrong they said well did you enjoy yourself at the service i said yes i did they said well we only know you only put a few dollars in the offering wow i said we only had

a few dollars they said well by the surveillance, well, only had a few dollars. They said, well, by the surveillance cameras, we saw a couple hundreds and a couple... They said, would you like to come back next week to enjoy yourself? I said, I would love to come back. I came back a week later. I'm thinking I'm going to talk to the congregation.

When I got there, they said, ladies and gentlemen, the pastors are like, ladies and gentlemen, we have a famous comedian. Put your hands together for T.K. Kirkland. Everybody's clapping. And when I got there, they said, ladies and gentlemen, the pastors were like, ladies and gentlemen, we have a famous comedian. Put your hands together for T.K. Kirkland. Everybody's clapping. And when I got up to the podium, they walked me in the back. They was about to baptize me. And I'm like, I ain't authorized this.

So I left the church and I wound up suing the church. So now I have to pay tithes. What's funny about this joke is y'all really think it was true. And that's the great thing about that story. I didn't believe it. I was about to say that. I didn't believe it.

Y'all should have seen your face. I believe you. I believe you. I was picturing it. I was picturing it. That's the greatest. And that's what makes a joke so great.

When it's so believable. Because y'all should have seen your face. I was picturing it. And that's what makes a joke so great. When it's so believable. Because y'all should have seen your faces. Oh, man. I was actually picturing a gacha. Which part of the black church is gacha? Is this a white people in there? It's called going to jail.

White-collar cramps don't look that hurt. Bottom line is going to jail. You see all that liquor coming through. You're peeing a lot. It's like over 50, you're black, you ain't seen me get up yet. Your blood changed. Because I'm healthy. And I'm president of the Hormones Association.

I got to get a colonoscopy. Colonoscopy ain't got nothing to do with peeing. She can't hold your side. You on the radar now. See, and you still drinking. Oh, yeah, yeah. See, see, that's your problem. I'm black.

We don't give up. Yeah, yeah, I see. I see. Don't blame that on black people. Yeah, don't blame it on black people. It's in your blood. Yes, sir. I've seen one time you had a show, you kill it. But then at the end, you kind of assess the crowd.

And you let them have it or you just make fun of them. Have you ever hurt somebody's feelings? Like, because you always say you're unapologetic. Yes, I have. I have hurt. As soon as you said that, I know it was that good person. Yeah, but have you like, because you know when someone can take, because they have to see you. Let's be clear. that I know it was that good but have you like cause you know you know when someone can take

cause they have to see you let's be clear they're paying their hard earned money to see you but has there ever been a time where you was like oh damn I might have went too far

I've done it twice in my career okay tell us one was at the very beginning of my career you remember this shit vividly I remember I sure do

I could see the movie laying in your head tell us at the beginning of my career I said something about a gentleman my cousins we all came in You remember this shit vividly. I remember, I sure do. I could see the movie laying in your head. Tell us. At the beginning of my career, I said something about a gentleman. My cousins, we all came in. We thought, you know, the energy is like Eddie Murphy. I'm a star. You know?

When this guy, I was talking about him, and I said something about his mother. He said his mother's dead. And I didn't believe him. I said something about, I said, well, forget your mother, F your mother. Well, back then, the promoter cut the mic off, music came on, and we wound up,

we all came in successful. We all walked out sad. Then two years ago, I'm in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and I'm doing a show, and I don't know what happened. Talking to the young man, something happened to his wife or girlfriend had died. And I said something that was out of line. He was ready to fight me.

And but. Sorry. Wisdom. Wisdom and experience. By the end of the night, me and him was in my green room. His family drinking champagne. We walked out of there friends. And that's the difference between knowing the climate of the room.

It could have went either way. We could have been in there brawling. But I knew I was wrong. After the show, we shook. I still told him. And, you know, it's just sometimes in life, you know. You said sorry. Yeah.

Sometimes in life, you could be tired. You could have woke up the wrong way, something you ate. It could be so many different things. And you say the wrong thing. But to only have that happen twice in 40 years is phenomenal. Because it's got to be difficult for you, right, in that sense. Because they're there to see your rough comedy. Yes. They know exactly. They know you're going to cross the line, right?

Yes, right. So it's interesting. Yeah, you're right. You know, I'm human and you know, you got to be a man when you make mistakes, you know?

Right. So I definitely do that. So like when I perform, right, I have so much of a wide variety of records I can perform. Yes.

I did reggaeton before. I did even reggae records before. So my DJ has to actually, before I walk in, he has to go and look at the crowd. Oh, we got a white, we got a white crowd tonight. That's so true.

We got a, we got a, we're going to do, we got a black crowd tonight. Right. We got a, we got a Latino crowd tonight. Do you,

do you have to change your set depending on it? Absolutely. Or is it all the same set? You have to change your set depending on it? Absolutely. Or is it all the same set? You have to change it. Because my degree is in speech communications. So we were taught that when you write a speech, it can never be the same speech because it's always a different audience. So I apply that to my stand-up.

So most people have seen me do a lot of black crowds so they always see black humor a lot of people don't see me doing current events economics um things that happen in the white community as much even to the point if you notice that when i do my shows on podcasts and i don't use profanity like i used to five six years ago because the reason why i don't do that is because I realized something I want my clips to be played everywhere around the world and then when you use profanity it turns some women off some kids can't hear your message but when you keep it clean guess what you can be heard everywhere and that's the thing that I do I want to be heard everywhere yeah like the um rakim uh never cursed on his albums well i never knew that and he was banging yeah and it's crazy that you said that yeah no one you would never know that never rock him never one of the considered always one of the hardest lyricists in hip-hop yes

sounded gangster didn't it was talking was gangster stuff wasn't wow he was saying it to me he was saying it in phenomenal phenomenal fucking but now oh that is crazy learn something today yeah i know i asked this earlier but um like would you work with other comedians but if you had a chance someone came to you and said tk i want you to do the new version of Kings of Comedy. And I wanted to be you. That's a great question. I wanted to be you and three others. But TK, we know you're a control freak, so we want you to pick the other three.

That's gangster. What three would it be? Take your time and take a shot. Yeah, take your time with that one. I think we got to take a shot before you even... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Take a shot. I need that shot. Yeah, we know to take a shot before you even... Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got time to do this. I need that shot.

I need my time. The question is for me again. Stop being me. Stop. Stop answering the question. He think he your brother or something. Yeah, like, yo, what you doing here? There's actually nothing.

Stop being me. We the oldest in the room. Yeah, no, that don't make us friends. Bye. Take me. Take me. Take me. in the room. Yeah, no, that don't make us friends. That don't make us friends. Yeah, I can see it. That's the line. That's the line.

Take your time with this one because I think this is dope. Well, that is dope, yo. It's you. You got Kings of Comedy. They give you the name. You get to own it.

And it's your production, everything. Well, what three? Wow. Definitely Tommy Davidson for sure. Well deserved. He heard me say it earlier. Don't give him credit. Yeah, I know. Definitely Tommy Davidson for sure Wow Well deserved Definitely He heard me say it earlier Don't give him credit Yeah I know

That's what I told him Yeah definitely Tommy Davidson Uh huh Um I gotta put everybody on Who I brought up in the game Okay So it'll be

It'll be Tommy Davidson It'll be D.O. Hughley It'll be Godfrey It'll be Mike Epps. Woo! Yeah, that's who it would be. That's my crew. Okay.

But D.L. Hughley, he wasn't in the first one. I fought for D.L. Yeah, yeah, he was on the first one, but I mentored D.L. Yeah, so that's why I got to always take the people I put on. Yeah, so that's my lineup. All right.

Yeah, that's my lineup. I want D.L. to run for president. People think I'm bugging out. Yeah, D.L. is, D.L. And we talked a couple days ago. We talk all the time. I love him as a person. I love the respect he has for me.

One of the greatest things he did, we went out to dinner one night. And after all the years we've been around each other he actually said thank you tk for changing my life wow and i thought that meant so much to me as a person because he went from a one-bedroom apartment in hawthorne or two-bedroom apartment in hawthorne california to living an amazing life and i i had something to do with that and I love that. That means a lot to me. Shout out to DL. We need you on the show, DL. Yeah, DL.

Yeah, y'all got to do DL. I love him. Yeah, yeah. And I don't want to get into no crap, so I won't get into crap, but I'm just saying. So you thought he was smart earlier. No, I am smart. I'm listening to you. You're slurring now. You're slurring. I'm just saying so you thought he was smart earlier Monique I saw the yell and Monique going yes at it in theloids, and I don't want to talk about none of that. Okay, I'm listening.

I don't want no negativity or anything like that. You're bringing it up. Yep. They don't want to talk about it. You're going to let me get to where I'm going. Okay, but you're bringing it up, though. Listen to what I'm saying. Because you just mentioned how good you and him is,

and I never noticed myself that you had anything to do again him in the game if you do have a relationship with monique or a story about monique you know come because you've been around forever yes get to the point i'm asking yeah what are your memories or what kind of relationship growing up in this business do you have with Monique in particular? Monique is also a great woman. She started out in Baltimore. I started out independent doing a thing

and she always was sexy to me. I wish I could holler or fuck her, to be honest with you, when I was younger back in the day because Monique has something about her that I find that that is extremely sexy. She has hairy legs, you know, and she don't have nappy hairy legs. She got silky hairy legs.

That's a girl? I never, I don't know. Yo, it's gangster. So when family, comedy is family. So in comedy, when people have their problem their problem. DL is my close friend. I like him. I'm an associate with Monique. DL was passionate about what he feels.

As a man with wisdom, you don't get in between certain things. Respect. As a man, you go, I'm out of it. I ain't got nothing to say. I could have called Monique. I could have called DL. Now, when I get in issues DL calls me because he's like my brother he'll call me and say yo stop that and I'm like okay you know that's relationship that we have but there's some people you stay out of their

situation you don't get caught up in the gunfire and you go on and live a happy day and they're grown folks people handle their situation I don't get caught up in none of this stuff that's going on I never see you in it I never in it I'm a grown man and I tell you all the time you have a philosophy

you're I'm just saying when I listen to you and I watch and I'm there. Listen, when you break it down, I always say, let's laugh at TK with his philosophy. Right. Because all I'm doing is just really giving the world another way to see a situation. Because most everybody thinks one way. All I do is just look at look at it this way for a second

that's what i do that's the that's the thing that i bring i'd be in agreement is there any relationship you regret like anybody you helped and then when it came time for them to help you back or just you know i felt that way for about a few comedians okay and then um my cousin was saying to me long time ago he was explaining to me um you just got to work harder so i work harder you know what i mean and i put myself in great situations but i could tell you that if you don't go out you don't meet people you'll never make it you got to meet people to change. I don't care how talented you are. You can be a talented person in this room, but if they don't know you out there,

you're never going to make it. You got to go out, you got to shake hands, you got to talk to people. You got to be like a politician. What's my man name? Johnny Cochran. He used to be a good friend of mine. We used to get our hair cut at the barbershop. Let me finish. I'm going to get to good friend of mine. We used to get our hair cut at the barbershop. The attorney, though. Let me finish. I'm going to get to that.

No, no, no. No disrespect. When I'm in a conversation, if you don't mind, don't cut me off. Then you're going to have to start raising your hand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll raise my hand. So Johnny Cochran, the attorney, we used to get our hair cut at the same barbershop in L.A. Called Terrell's 2.

And this is for the Michael Jackson case, the O.J. Simpson case. And he used to always say, T.K., can't nobody make it unless someone else helps you. Cosign. Yeah, cosign. And when you talk about cosigns, one of the greatest cosigns, y'all was babies then, but this showed me this before y'all understood it. Back in 1969, this is how I was deep in the music game, even at that age, there was a group called the Jackson 5. Barry Gordy was so smart that the Jackson 5, I want you back. He already knew that it was a hit, but he made it a hit when he said Diana Ross presents the Jackson 5.

Let's fast forward now to hip hop. So in the 80s, you have Dr. Dre presents Snoop Dogg. Then what you also have is after Tupac, you have Dr. Dre, Tupac, because Dr. Dre's co-signer Tupac, you have Dr. Dre and Tupac, because Dr. Dre's cosigner Tupac. But then it's really Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Tupac, cosigner Eminem. Then after Tupac dies, you have Eminem blows up to be successful. Then you have Dr. Dre, Eminem, cosigner 50 Cent, and the rest is history. So everybody that ever got cos cosine went to superstardom i heard you publicly say that you were the only one that i was down with ruthless and death row and yes why they were beefing yeah why was we but god was well respected i was i was crew I was crew easy. Dr. Dre and us

was good friends, right? Ice Cube and us was good friends. Because you can remember, Ice Cube wasn't even with Def Roe. Right. Ice Cube had

street knowledge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, Jinx and all of them. So, I was friends with them. I was friends with Def Roe. I was friends with Roofless. At the same time.

At the same time. Like, what are they going to do? Like, it can't i wasn't from la right so you know what i'm saying i there was i wasn't tied like that right like i've been so respected and thank god that i had a couple beefs in la but it was like on some hating hating bs that's another story. This is my point. The Rough Riders cast money until we go on tour. We get to Boston. The Rough Riders has this huge

fight with made men in Boston. Knives, everything. It's insane. I walk in in the middle of it. Do you know they respect me so much they fighting around me? True story.

It's like being in one of the hibachi restaurants. I'm talking about the knives is going past. I'm in the middle and they're fighting around me. I don't know if that's respect. Let me finish.

You're still talking out of turn. Sorry. But here's my point. And I can say this. We talk about the woo. But back then, I can tell you right now, don't ever mess with the Rough Riders. They sent everybody to the hospital, dog. Talk about ambulances.

Like I seen four on stretches. Thank God nobody died because the whole tour would have been canceled. You know? Yeah. So I seen them, dog. I seen them get down. I'm going to repeat that. What?

I seen them get down. I don't condone violence. But I actually witnessed that right in the middle of it. And they was the wrong people to mess with. Yeah. What was the best hip-hop tour you ever been on the best hip-hop tour i would definitely say straight out of compton that's you know the first one you got the first one but and then after that you the um jay-z hip not i'm so was you on tour with us

you get ready to give you I'm getting out of place, dog. Like, no, you really fucking with me now, dog. I don't care. You really fucking with me. You got to stay in control, dog. TK, nobody raised me. Yeah, come on, buddy. This shit, this shit stopping your funny 30 minutes because you a grown man.

You 50-something years old, nigga. Act like you, I know you got a little sister living by 730. You got signed in. You a little bit of bad to me. Yeah, you got signed in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn. Fuck off.

Let's get this shit going. Let's get this shit going. Hey. Damn. Let me out, man. Come on, nigga. Something else. My bad, my bad, my bad.

Stop drinking. You're drinking the whole bottle by yourself. Drink chips. Man. Come on, man. Let's go. This is no, you're drinking. Fuck drinking.

Oh my God. So I would say the other tour was the Jay-Z tour. What? What was that tour? Hard Knock Life. Hard Knock Life the reason why that was phenomenal was to see DMX performing

don't get me understand something to see DMX perform by himself no band no hype man he running from one side of the stage to the other getting on top of the microphone. Didn't have him

praying towards the end. And crying. And crying. With no shirt on. He didn't see Jay-Z come with the finesse. That was a great tour. I was part of that. That was a great tour.

That was a great tour. That was a great tour. I know we of that. That was a great tour. That was a great tour. That was a great tour. I know we kind of spoke on this in the other episode we had, but do you think Straight Outta Compton was accurate? Oh yeah, that movie was definitely accurate. I wish they had me in it more, but who wouldn't?

Right? You know, I think they should have seen it. They should have put a lot of scenes in there where when we took off from Los Angeles, California, this is before we had headphones. So Dr. J had a boombox sitting on the plane, and he was playing his music. And the students came down to the row where we sit and said, excuse me, can you turn your radio, please? You can't have your music on. And Dr. Dre said, F you. Wow.

B-I-T-C-H. And next thing you know, she left. She didn't argue. She ain't say nothing. Next thing you heard, the pilot said, we're making an emergency landing. They dropped us off in Arizona, dog. And all of us had to get off that plane. And we was like 20-something people deep.

So easy had to buy all new tickets for all that. But they got get off that plane. And we was like 20-something people deep. So he had to buy all new tickets for all that. But they got us off that flight. Police had scored everything. I think that would have been phenomenal to put on the tour. That is it. Or to see them driving Suzuki Jeeps before they made money. I saw them actually in Suzuki Jeeps. To see their success is really amazing. NWA. NWA, yes. before they made money. I saw them actually in Suzuki Jeeps.

Like, to see their success is really amazing. NWA. NWA, yes. All of them. Ice Cube outworked everybody. How he outworked John Singleton. I mean, he was a rapper. And then he started doing Fridays.

Like, back to back to back to back. Wait, did you just say John Singleton was a rapper? No, he outworked John Singleton as an actor. Ooh. Ice Cube. Ice Cube. Okay, okay, I'm bummed? No, he outworked John Singleton as an actor. Ooh. Ice Cube. Cube, okay, okay, I'm bummed. Yeah, he outworked him because he did more movies than him. Oh, wow.

John Singleton didn't do as many movies as Ice Cube. And Ice Cube had movies that the culture loved, right? Because it was Boys in the Hood that John Singleton did. But Ice Cube had all the Fridays Fridays or About the Benjamins. He had the streets. This is facts. That's facts. That's all they want to go on.

Is it true you got a master's degree? I got a master's degree from Arizona State. No, I went to Arizona State for my bachelor's. Got my master's from Cal State Northridge. You is a real IQ nigga.

I'm not really an IQ nigga. I'm a guy who studies. Like, if you put something to me, I'm going to be determined enough to make sure I get good grades. And after I pass that, you can ask me what it is a week later. I couldn't tell you what it was. Right. You know? It's weird.

But I was studying, get good grades. But I couldn't tell you. You asked me the same questions a week ago. I feel that. I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. What? I feel that. Now, where is it at?

San Diego or San Jose? Northridge. Where you go when you watch the sunrise? Oh, you've been really studying the dude, dog. That's awesome. I'm really impressed because I really thought you was a horrible interviewer. But you stepped your game up, dog. You stepped your game up.

No, I go to, whenever I'm in LA, I go to Santa Monica. I get there at like about 4.45. I don't need to stay a whole day. Right. About 4.45 and you watch, 15 minutes,

you watch the sunset while I smoke a cigar because there's some things in life that's just so priceless. Santa Monica. Yeah. So now one of my goals is, believe it or not, while I smoke a cigar, because there's some things in life that's just so priceless. Santa Monica. And to see, yeah, to see. So now one of my goals is, believe it or not, is to actually watch the sun rise in Miami.

Of course. And get on the plane and make it to LA to watch the sun set. You could do that too. Yeah, I got no kidding. That's easy. The reason why that stood out to me is I almost try to do that every day. Awesome.

When I first moved to the beach, me and my wife said, we're going to sit down and have coffee here. And since we moved there, we had never did it. Wow. And where you live at, you can do it. You can do it. So recently. I've seen the area you live that you can do it you could do it so yeah recently i've seen the air you live in so recently um i've been doing it like you know sometimes she get up on time sometimes she don't and i just be like yo listen we may just pack together so if i'm up earlier i'm going down and i would just go down and just look at it. And that sunrise.

It's amazing, isn't it? When you see the sun come up, that shit is so peaceful. Am I right? And when I heard you say that shit, I was like, it was like goosebumps that came through me. Because it was like, damn, I don't know if people really. And then there's people like him who fucking live across the street from the beach. He doesn't even do that shit. Right. We take so many things for granted. there's people like him who fucking live across the street from the beach he doesn't even do that shit right

we take so many things for granted and the other thing that people should do is always put your hand or body in the ocean

of course that's why I don't I made that all you gotta do you said that all you can do is let the water yep

you can just go in and let the water touch you believe it's the vibration. That water is very powerful. Believe it or not, this is a sound that may be superstitious, but have I caught a case? I used to always fly here and get in the water for protection.

For protection, you know what I'm saying? And then I remember walking to my hotel. I remember walking to my hotel one day. And this is when you really understand life that all what we're doing doesn't really mean nothing

it's just that you got peace of mind stop sorry is when you have just peace of mind I saw this couple in the laundry mat

and they was just staring at the dryer but I had a real case on my hand my life was in jeopardy and I admired them because they were just staring at the dryer. But I had a real case on my end. My life was in jeopardy. And I admired them because they were just staring at the dryer. And I said, man, they got a simple life. And when you're going through trouble, you wish you had a simple life.

You wish that all this wasn't worth it when you know your freedom can be taken away. I appreciate that. So it takes certain things in life to make drastic, to make you feel a certain way. And that's like to spin back to Mr. Puffy Combs, what as men, and I know people use him as a joke and whatever, but I pray to God that no one ever gets in his shoes on that level. And the reason why, because it's not him that the pain is happening.

I guarantee you his mother is in pain. Mama. When I got in my situation, my mother didn't go to church for almost a year. She almost didn't go get her nails at the same spot

because mothers love their kids so much and the more successful you are, the more, what, they brag about you. And the higher you go when it comes down, it comes down hard. So that's the thing. I wish them the best. And then

from the player side, shout out to Russell, God bless him. Shout out to Bill Kby, God bless him. A man doesn't need to put stuff in a woman's drink to seduce her, to get her to do. Because I came up in the world where we seduce women. Your conversation is supposed to be so cold. Your cologne game is supposed to be so cold that when you purchase women drinks or bottles, your game and how you move, if you don you purchase women drinks or bottles your game and

how you move if you don't get a debt day she saw you getting in the fly whip she saw you across town in the in the fly mink coat or you was going to a play with another woman and it was just a date and you just happen to roll back around and you you drop in conversation. See, that's when I came up in the world with real men. We live in a world now where there's habitual liars. A man can lie so much that women are so gullible

that they fall for the gullible guy and not listen to the facts of a man. And there's a difference between a habitual liar and a man who has facts. Sometimes men who talk real scare women because you scare them all because you so real about your life like i was just on a show not too long ago and most of the women didn't have their life together but because i have wisdom why should i have wisdom

i felt like didn't have that they don't mean they could change years down the line. But men don't take the time to really learn the female that they brought to sleep with or the even smash period. You need to get you got to just take your time to be that kind of man. Understand there's no rush. You know that that's just my thing. You can meet somebody today and you check them once you start talking on the phone, you start hearing things. You go, you know what? I'm glad that ain't my thing. You can meet somebody today and you chat to them once you start talking to them on the phone you start hearing things

you go you know what I'm glad that ain't work out. I'm good. I'm going to keep it moving. And they think they did something. They may feel like

they cut you off but in actuality I saw it coming where you really did me a favor because all true men or a player or whoever you're going

to look at it always looking for an exit. So the female give you the exit first they really did you a favor yep that's right if someone i i know i know we spoke a little bit about this earlier but if someone asks you again right to do now this is not king of comedy this is versus you one-on-one hour on stage against somebody and you're going to produce the special because we gotta we gotta cater to you now right right cater to you this is you you have to feel comfortable and it's like one-on-one it's a

versus type of style right it's you's you against a comedian, whether it's baking on each other, going against each other, or maybe complimenting each other. You know what I mean? Right. What's that one comedian you would pick? That's a good ass question. Who would I go toe-to-toe with? Whichever way you want to pick it.

Y'all making each other up or y'all going? Yeah, I'm going to think we're making each other other up because we players. I would go toe-to-toe with Cat from a player's perspective. Wow. Yeah, I would go toe-to-toe with Cat Williams. Absolutely. Hands down.

Matter of fact, I'm going to race Cat Williams in the 40. Yeah, I heard about you. I heard that you posted. I heard that you posted footage. No, he ran his shit So here's the thing That y'all don't know About track and field

Okay See I ran track Okay Like I really ran track When was the last time You ran track Yeah Now the point

When was the last time You had a drink Yeah Right now When was the last time You had a drink Right now You know

So you're getting A little comfortable You know You need to Check the proper tongue when you talk to me. You're getting a little comfortable. You know, you're looking at me dead in the eye, you're very comfortable. You know, you're getting too comfortable. You see him like this, buddy? When you do this, you see how he leaned into that?

You're too comfortable, dawg. You know? You see how you leaned into that? You're too comfortable, dog. You know? Sober up. I don't want you to be in my jokes, man. No, but it's all in fun. It's all in fun. For a while in my head, I said I could beat Cat in the 40.

In my head. Then I started realizing I'm 60-something years old. And I said, T, you know they always say your mind can think this, but your body can't do X, Y, and Z. So when they said to me, I was supposed to be running with you. 5 a.m. You're jogging. 5 a.m. But you went to sleep because you was drinking too much.

That was a lie. I got to put that there. We got mixed up in schedules. Yeah, it was okay. Yeah, it's okay. So I started training again. And I was almost prepared. You know, I had to go on the road.

But I was like, yeah, T, you still got it. So what I said about the 40 is, the thing about the 40 is, who has the greatest start. If you get up them blocks first, you don't have enough room to catch someone. Right? Because they got you. They got you. They got you off top.

Yeah, off top. You got to be super, super fast to catch them in the 40. I'm 60-something, so hear me being clever. So if I did race Cat, it would have to be a 60 yard dash because if he gets me in the first 20 I got time to catch him

see I got time to catch that's comedy strategy I got time to catch him so by the time we hit 60 the 60 yard mark I could probably get him. Now, on top of that, Cat is not running a 4-1, 4-4. Deion Sanders ran 4-1.

The young kid a couple weeks ago ran a 4-2 in the 40. These are the kids in their 20s. To run 4-something, that means you are a world class sprinter. Nobody's perceived we don't have facts no more. So people get that on the camera and think, oh, this person's fast. And it's not taking anything away.

He still can move a little bit. But he ain't running them times. It's less than No, I thought they proved it. No, no, no. It's less than a 40-yard dash. That's 100 pounds no I thought they proved it no no no it's less than a 40 yard dash now Cat Cat's a hundred pounds yeah

I thought I thought no no it wasn't a 4-4 listen to me listen to me listen to me he's not running a 4-4

what's a 4-4 a 4-4 is 4-4 in the 40 yard dash is world class speed young man listen to me it's world class speed

I don't know what you're talking about. I ain't going to lie. Did he go to the football? I do. No, no, no. It's not world-class. And they filmed him. Tom Brady ran a 4.6.

We're talking about a 4.4. It's not world-class speed. I'm telling you what I'm saying. So listen. What I'm saying is what he ran is like he can run that. Can we do a favor? Can you put my name on the marquee? Yes, yes, yes.

Can somebody say out loud what it says? Drink champ. Yes. Relax. Relax. But hold on. Yeah, break it down. Break it down.

Because I don't know. Because I don't know track. I don't know. I don't know that. Let me say to you what track is. The 40 yard dash is what athletes do in the combine. That's how the coaches see how fast you are. Okay.

Now, I ran track for a living. I made a living out of running track. Wow. When you see these young kids running 4-1, when you see Bo Jackson running 3-9 or 4-flat, this is speeding. Four-tenths of a second is like from here to here. That's four-tenths.

To run a 4-1, 4-2 is world-class. To run 4-4 is world-class. Even though Tom Brady, they say, ran 4-6, 4-6 is considered slow is because this is 4-1 and this is 4.6. 4.6 is considered slow is because this is 4.1 and this is 4.6. There's so many other

in between. Between 4.1 and 4.6 is the difference between world class 3 and 4.6. Because the 40 is not in the Olympics. The 100 is in the Olympics. The 100 is in the Olympics. The 60 is in the indoor track meet. The 40 is only in NFL combine, right? So when you run track indoors in colleges, they run the 60-yard dash. What's a good 60-yard time?

6'1", 6'2". Now, for every second, for every 10 yards, it's 10 seconds. So, the reason why it's 60, that means they're running their 10... 8 seconds, by the way. I don't know. Finish, finish.

You said 10 seconds. It's really a second. Good, good, good, good. I'm helping you out. Good, good, good, good. My dog, listen, I'm telling ahead. I'm helping you out. Go ahead. My dog. Listen, I'm telling you. I agree with you. Yeah.

60 with 6'1". Comedians are the worst. They will. Let him finish, please. Yeah, please, please. Let him finish. Yeah. Please, because I'm so into this.

So the 60-yard dash is every 10 yards is a second. Right. So 60 yards, 10 seconds, that's 60 seconds. That's six point. No, it's a second. So every 10 yards is a second. I'm sorry. So 60 yards is six something, right?

When you run the 100-yard dash, it's 10 seconds. Because if you run the good time, respectful time's 10 seconds. If you run the good time, respectful time, it's 10-1. That's world class. Then you get to Usain Bolt who probably does it in 9-7, 9-6. That's super flying.

But you see, from 9-5 to 10-1, it's only a couple tenths of a second. That's the difference between world class and mediocre. That's the difference between making the Olympic team and not making the Olympic team. That's the difference between in high school, being on the travel team,

or you're staying home to hear about it when they come back on Monday. That's what those times are. But most of the world doesn't know about track. So if you hear someone say they ran such and such, people think that's super fast. And it's just okay. And nobody's going to run a 4.4 at 50 years old. It ain't happening.

Can I be devil's advocate and say it? Yeah, absolutely. But that's why I said I put 20,000 on it. Because I'm not saying what we're going to run. It's not going to be no fast time of being home run. I can tell you this right now. And I don't know who's going to the hospital after we finish running because of our age. I'm telling you right now.

And see, in India, there's a thing called competition. It's like basketball players, they'll get into a game and they freeze because it's a championship. Right. Well, when you got somebody running next to you and there's competition, everything changes, dog. Right. Because now you're up against someone. The way you think, body, energy.

Now you're pressing harder because you're running against competition. A lot of people freeze when it's competition. And this is my scenario. And again, no shade of the cat. I just want to put $20,000 down. And we put the money into somebody's charity. But I think I can win. I got to kind of like lean towards his side.

Let me tell you why. Because he said it on Club Shay Shay. And then he went to a football actual facility. I think it was a college. Why are you talking again? But it was a football facility where these guys have to kind of like do that. Now I'm going to share something with you. Okay, cool.

The next time you watch that video, I really want you to pay attention. And I want everybody to listen to me very carefully. When they ran the race, they did not run against the hash lines. Every white line, if you ran the right way, is 10 yards. You know the 10-yard line, the 20-yard line? This is going this way. What they did, they ran this way, horizontal. They didn't run straight. So no one actually knows that that's the 40-yard dash.

Every white line is 10 yards. They didn't go that direction. They went the opposite. And you can Google it right now and watch it on the video. And you'll see that they did not run one white line to the other white line. Because every white line is 10 yards. That's considered 10, 20, 30, 40. Now, if you ran four white lines, that's 40 yards. If you watched the race, it went the opposite.

No lines. We can Google the thing right now and pull it up. No, you tell us. We believe you. if you watched the race it went the opposite no lines we can google the thing right now and pull it up no you tell us we believe you I guarantee you so again I'm not saying he's not fast I'm saying that the time that was announced wasn't accurate

that's what I'm saying and all I'm saying is when the fans look at it just look at the race that they did at the college and notice that they wasn't going the football length of the football field. They was going across the football field. Oh, I don't get it. Yeah, they wasn't going straight. They was going up to 20.

Right. Yeah, they was going across. And they had cones out there. No one really knows it's that 40 yards. But you know what's 40 yards? If you ran four white lines going straight, that's 40 yards. I didn't even know. Can somebody, y'all got all this team here?

The Googler. If you're Googling, right? Watch it, and you'll see it. And the video does touch some time. Right. Yeah, and it's getting... We're just dropping knowledge here, because this is what I do.

I take this very seriously. I take the track thing very seriously. I don't care about nothing else, but track changed my life. I take the track very seriously. All right. I used to be fast. You're running the cross, correct?

Am I correct? Okay. Could you show him so he can see? Am I correct? Okay. Could you show him so he can see what that looks like? Yeah. Because you know how his IQ is. Right. Yeah. Where is he?

All right, but there's somebody somewhere. See, he's coming this direction. He's supposed to go that way. There's no lines. That's like half a field. Yes. You're supposed to go the opposite direction. You's supposed to go that way. There's no line. That's like half a field. Yes. You're supposed to go the opposite direction. You're supposed to go up the football field.

Yeah, let's see you 40 yards. Yeah, that's 40 yards. You can't get 40 yards going that direction. I don't even think a field is 40 yards that direction. But let me be the head. How wide is the football field? I'm sure they'll wear that. Show it to him up close.

I saw it. I saw it. Show him up close. I need to see it up that. Show it to him up close. I saw it. I saw it. I need to see it up close. He's been drinking. No, no, no. I'm on point. I need you to see it. I need you to see it.

53 and a third. Huh? All right. Yeah, I saw it. And see, he's going against. He's supposed to go up. All right. See, every white line that you see is 10 yards.

But they don't have to... Instead of going this way, he's going straight. Look, right here. Okay. See? He's going that way. He's supposed to go that way. Exactly.

Every white line is 10 yards. So if he went that direction, that would have been 40. So basically, he's supposed to go this way yeah right that's all i'm saying it looks like there's a shorter distance right and i bet money on that is only 53 yards but let me you have to run it just represent for everything to sideline to be close to 40 yards absolutely you don't have to run sideline he went half a field he said it's 53 yards yeah he just googled it 40 so it's less than that he didn't even go halfway yeah he didn't even have to run sideline. He went half a field. He's 53. He said it's 53 yards. He just Googled it. He's over 40, so it's less than that.

He didn't even go halfway. Yeah, he didn't go halfway. Okay. Yeah. So basically, he went 25 yards. Let me represent every hater on the internet. Yes. Exactly.

They're going to say TK. They're going to say TK hating. Why do we do that? Yep, that's so true. And then they're also going to say, what can TK do? What time? No, you heard what I said. You said you could beat that time? I said, I don't know how fast we're going to run if we went that? And then they're also going to say what can TK do? No, you heard what I said. I said I don't know how fast

we're going to run if we win that up. I know we ain't going to be that fast. And I don't know who's going to the hospital. What I'm saying is it's going to be a slow time and may the action tanks and ambulances be by us because we don't know who's going to the hospital

afterwards for running such a strenuous race. You know? Because most people after 30 don't run anymore. Yeah.

Listen, when I say I study life, even down to running, even when that came out, it stayed. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done.

I'm done. Go ahead, just throw it over. Keep going, keep going, keep going. It states that most people over 25,

30 years old have never ran 30, 40 yards. You'll never run it again is basically what they're saying. Yeah, after that,

you'll never run that sprint. Did you see the article? I seen the article. Yeah, yeah. And they said, because runners are like 3% of the world.

Like, I think it's 1% of the world. When you look at 1% of the world. Most of us in here will never run a sprint ever again in life. Yeah. And I want to keep it real. I don't sprint. When I jog, I do, you know, three to four to five miles. It's never a sprint.

Right. And, like, you know what? I've sprinted on the sand with him. But that's never a sprint right and like I've you know what I've sprinted on the sand with him but that's like a safety that's not a sprint like you and Cat Williams

are talking about so yeah and like I said I'm not going to say it's going to be a fast time I have no idea what it's going to be I just know from

technique and doing it so long two things I lose I lose you know there's nothing wrong with losing. You know?

I just felt that, you know, since I love track so much, why not make fun out of it? That's all. That's dope. So now you took it somewhere else. You said, what, technique? You said you looked at his technique

and said, I can beat that. Technique, yeah. See, in track and field, you ever see how certain people, they have this certain form? Yeah. Like, Usain Bolt has power in his shoulders. Every stride he takes because he goes this way, he pushes off with power.

And there's some people who run this way. Everything is coming from their thighs and their hips. Then the way we train, we are trained to run in place. That's to get your leg lift up so as you're running you may not be touching the ground as much as the other person because as you got lift you're covering more ground than the next person that's why you're trained to do um leg lifts and you're trained to get your legs strong for sprinters and then some people have technical um quick um twitches in their legs some people just born to be sprinters just like there's some people who are born to run long like they're just born

for that that's how deep yeah that's how deep i get into running is that serious yeah I take it very seriously. I fuck a runner too. Let's make some noise for a runner. I love running. It's my life to this day. Cat Williams had a little bit of Forrest Gump in his shit. Forrest Gump. That's good, right? Yeah, I saw it. That's what I saw.

I just want to know why you keep talking. I'm just sorry. Forgive me. I'm trying to never talk. I'm just sorry. Forgive me. I'm trying to never talk. I'm trying to never talk. You got some more Japanese whiskey? Yeah, we good. I'm going to cut this cake.

I'm saving this bottle for a special occasion. Please, a little bit more. For a special occasion. And by the way, man, I'm so glad you came to hang out with me. But the fact that it's your birthday, I'm not going to lie. I ain't going to lie. I'm so glad you came to hang out with me. But the fact that it's your birthday, I'm not going to lie. I ain't going to lie. I'm being greedy

right now. I feel like it's my birthday too. With you, you know what I'm saying? With you because I enjoy this so much. Everybody. So let me tell you again. Can I make it my birthday too, bro? You at the table. No, you got to go out.

Again, what makes this good? And he'll tell you this. I started booking me with him months ago. Yes, right. That's right. We were ready. I feel like it was almost around when the Cat Williams interview dropped. Yeah, like December or something.

I was like, oh, shit. And then I had AB, my boys at said AB make sure that they gonna get this right because our texting sometimes is miscommunicating I say one thing you say one thing I say something

that you say I thought you said my mislead no no me and you when we talk when me and you talk we got different

situations going on and it's like okay so that's why I had to call AB I said AB I got everything said but let's make sure it's official.

And then I hit you back again. You said TK is on. So, again, Nori and your whole team, I thank all you guys for what you have done to my career because all this matters. And we're not on here just being on here. We really are giving out valuable information to the world um some people iqs are low so they say dumb shit some people iqs as high as they they relate and they don't see it as a negative way so we have a world that we try to cover everything the people with the low iqs

will be the people that will be yes will give us the pushback and the confusion the people with the low IQs will be the people that will give us the pushback and the confusion. The people with the education and the IQs will look at our shows and go, you know what? I really like what they're doing out here. And as I come from this moment on, I want you to be careful what you say because you're a leader. And you're wearing beautiful watches. You wearing nice clothes. Yo, listen to me now. I'm about to hit you.

Yeah, come on. Not again. All over the world, dog. You on some sand. What you want me to do? If I wasn't mistaken, what you want me to do? I saw you on some pink sand.

Yeah, I've been in a couple. Oh, yeah. I'm off the coast. Dog. I saw you. That's the two of them saying. He was on salmon. Ken, I'm talking him. Hey That's the two of them saying. He was on salmon. Okay, I'm talking him.

Hey, man. I'm talking him. I'm talking him. I'm talking him. I don't need you to close up. Yeah, we don't need. What? What?

Yo, I saw you. Amalfi Coast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw you on Pink Sand, dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you understand what I'm saying? A lot of people ain't doing that. Yeah, no, no.

Fuck that. Let's have some fun, goddamn. Ain't nobody doing that. It's so dope, man, for us to celebrate your birthday with you, for us to celebrate your life, your career. You know what I'm saying? Most people would have said, that's a stubborn move. You know what I mean? You're taking your own life and your career.

That's why I kept saying it had to be like, you know, an argument between the management and the artist. I know, I know, you know,

I'm being funny. That shit is just ill, right? I know it's funny, but it's like real because there's so many decisions that you got to make in this business. And you know what I mean?

I've made, I've made a couple of bad decisions, but then I've also had to get talked into decisions. So if you had to ask for advice, who's the person you go to for advice? Me. Again. I'm cold with it, dog. Like, I'll take my time.

Even my kids know how I move. They can't ask me something that I have to make a decision right then. Right. Do not do that to me. Right. Because being a parent is a decision between life and death. What I decide might end your life. Right.

So I have to think about when I'm about to answer you what my yeses are and what my noes are. Because I may not see you no more. And because I cherish you so much, I have to calculate what I'm about to say yes to and what I'm about to say no to. Then have the ability to deal with the pain if your child, is that something that they really want to do, but you feel in your heart that you made the right decision. I do that with my career as well.

Wow. Yeah. Great answer. If you have one comedian to bring back from death and one entertainer and one rapper, who's

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No no no Singer Teddy Pendergrass Nice Yeah I bring back Teddy Comedian Flip Wilson Wow Yeah If anybody ever

got a chance to see flitwell he doesn't get his flowers like he should yeah unbelievable you know i'm i'm like i know about flit wilson but i remember me um hearing about flit wilson in a movie called most deaf and Jack Black called Rewind called Rewind and they put me on like Wilson yeah if you get a chance

to binge watch his TV show the Flip Wilson show he has an actual TV show he had an actual TV like a series like it was it was like

back then he had a TV show yeah he had a TV show it was phenomenal yo black and white yeah black and white no it was color it was color

it was color yeah it was color you gotta was color. It was color? Yeah, it was color. You got to remember, I'm older than email. I'm older than the internet. Ain't that crazy? I'm older than social media. See, back in my day, our TVs didn't get stolen because we had consoles. Our TVs were not like that.

You can't steal that shit. You know what I'm saying? And we had the stereo system in the TV console. Kids today will never know how precise you had to be to take a needle and put it right where you want it on a song. Kids don't understand today how we was, my generation was the first in mixtapes, how we hit play and record. And when the DJ come on on the radio, you would take it off to play the song. And we start talking, you cut it back off.

And you do that the whole night. And you had an album. You had a mixtape. I don't know nothing about that. How about the tape? You take a pen and take a pencil and get it back on track and ring it all the way back. The youngest in the room

looking at us. Yeah, I know. I know. They don't know nothing about that. They don't know nothing about that. They don't know nothing about that. It was real stuff. It was real stuff.

That's how far I go back. Or you had to get up to turn the TV. Yeah. Yeah. That happened to me today. No remote.

No remote. I couldn't find my remote, and I lost my mind. And then I thought about it. I said, motherfucker, you come from a pliers on the TV. That's right. How the fuck is you can play? Like, you figure it out. And if you had brothers and sisters, you knew who wasn't the one that was well liked. Because when the TV broke, you had the holder. And the one that didn't like, nobody liked, you had the holder.

The hanger. Make it and go and find the signal so the TV can work. Stay right there. I got a question, TK. Talking about Flip Wilson and having a show. Have you ever had an opportunity to do a sitcom like you do a show? No, I wouldn't mess with TV sitcoms. With all the philosophy you have, man.

No, I would never do it. You like it so much. Yeah, I don't like how other people can change your life or ruin your life. Like your script. But when you say that, you mean what, editors, producers? Well, the world. You can have a great TV show, but the ratings are not high. Right.

You get canceled, right? That. Right. You get canceled. Right? Makes sense. You're done. Well, if you start a business, your business is successful based on the effort that you put in your business. Right, right, right. And see, and that's what it is. Some people fail because they don't put the proper effort into their business. I'm successful because I put the proper effort into me.

And I've made it this far and I hope I can get another 40 summers out this month. That's my goal. That'll put me at 93? Wow. No, that'll put me at 103. I'm 63. 103? Yeah, 103.

I gotta follow that so we don't write your jokes. No. Do you ever forget a joke or know one that's good? Like you ever go back and watch your old stuff to get a gem? No, no, no. When you do a joke, if you forget it, you have to say to yourself, it'll be another show. Ooh. Okay.

Yeah, you don't put yourself under pressure. You're like, fuck it. I forgot it. They catch me. When I'm performing, whatever I forget, it is what it is. I'll make adjustments, and hopefully I'll remember it what it is. I'll make adjustments and hopefully I'll remember it the following week. And the great thing about it is

if someone comes to see you in another city, they're like, oh, you did it. I do a different show every time I perform. Right. So I was asked that earlier today. How do you not repeat

the same thing? And because I pay attention to me when I'm on stage. I have to, I hear me talk when I'm performing. So it's a good thing. Raising my hand. Yes, sir.

I thank you. At the end of the interview. I try. I try. Yeah. T, motherfucking cat. I don't think I've ever heard anybody ask this question in my life. Okay.

Okay, we're in. A comedian. You're doing jokes. You're doing your set. How many jokes? Do you guys measure that? Like, is there a number? Say you're going to perform for an hour is that 8 jokes

6, 7, 4 80 like what is it like you know if you were to put a number on it because you're good oh it's definitely got to be I do an hour and 30 minutes.

So, okay. So, if you do an hour and 30 minutes. But I've given away the secrets, the gems and all that. Well, how many jokes is that? That's a good question. Yeah. I've been asked in my life. Because I don't write my jokes.

My jokes come from my gut. But if I had to look at a video and went from joke to joke, I would literally say it got to be 8, 900. Right. Nine what? 8 to 900. In an hour and a half? In an hour and a half. Now in 30 minutes. You think it's more?

You shooting. You think it's more? I thought it was 10 or less. 10 jokes or less. Oh, no, no, no, no. It's a line within a line. It's a joke. Yeah, because I go off of...

900 jokes? I do topics. Right. So I do topics about politics, relationships, children, current events, that particular city. And then you have levels of relationships. Like you could go, it could be one chapter one to chapter 910, depending on where you want to go. And then you have this thing I call philosophies. You put your philosophies on stuff

then this thing called your theories you have theories then you give gain yeah what's your knowledge of game what can you teach to people it's your philosophy i love by the way like the thing that i'm putting out in the universe now and they call me a simp because nobody's teaching the young kids now i'm trying to show how to a gentleman. I tell them when you go out, I did this on Facebook and Instagram, I say when you go out and you talk to a woman more than five minutes as a gentleman, you should buy her a drink. Am I right or wrong? You should buy her a drink.

When you walk down the street and you're on site, you walk on the outside, it shows people who are driving by that you're a protector. These niggas are like, let that bitch get hit by a car. That's what niggas are saying. I'm telling you guys.

You see me. Chill, chill, chill. I tell guys, when you take a girl on a date, you let her sit by the window unless she says something different. These niggas like, nigga, I pay for a ticket.

Why would I look out the window? So no one is teaching nobody etiquette of life. You understand? And that's the thing that we have to start doing. We got to start giving etiquette. Now, let's make sure I'm clear when I say this. You can't do this for every woman. Most guys, they take in and think, you're supposed to do this for everybody.

There's some women that are just for the streets. And you just gotta but wisdom teaches you character meaning you know who to do it for who not to do it for thanks and i and anybody listening my dream for everybody here man and woman that you find a couple of your life as you get older because we come into a part of life where the character of that person is so serious that you don't want to make no mistakes. Because now it gets real.

Now it gets real. It ain't a game. So, you know, like you got a good wife, you know, and you're a good person. So you're straight. A lot of people don't have what you have. But isn't it your generation, his generation that's so fucked up?

No, my generation. My generation. His generation. I believe this. I believe it's a little bit of everybody because at the end of the day, everybody has to hold themselves accountable. See, a man doesn't point to someone else

and say, oh, it's because of you this happened to me. We are men. We got to hold ourselves accountable. So that's like when you say something to me and I did something wrong 20, 30 years ago, a man doesn't say, yep, I actually did it. Some people hold on to your mistakes because that's all, they want to look at you in a bad eye.

But I always tell people, your perception of me is what you think of yourself. You what i mean yeah like you know yeah because someone said to me like yo you know the reason why drill rappers exist like these rappers that's killing people is that we didn't we didn't go to them and be good role models. I understand what you're saying, but it comes down to a choice, Nori. Yeah. A man, everybody knows right from wrong. You go out there and shoot somebody.

I said this a long time ago, I think, on the show. They got a place for you. No matter how tough you are, they got a place for you. No matter if you're black, Spanish, you can't say they don't do that to the white people

because we all know the game is not fair, right? It's not rigged right. They got a place for you so you can't go do what they do and think that you're going to get over.

It ain't happening. That's why I'm on your show. I want everybody to make great choices and understand and once you make this bad choice, some people can't get out of it. Some people can't get out of it, dog. You stuck. Yes, sir. They say a lot of men shit, they understand

that $20,000. Yes, yes, yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. What was that? I talk about men, how they said a certain amount of money in the bank. But most kids, they think that I'm saying give the girl the money. And I think I said this on the show. I said, that's the problem with social media. Because kids today are at the table in grown folks' conversation. And this is going over their head.

The $25,000 that I want people to have is a really small change, but whatever you can get from 17 years old, they get your money right so that when you do go out with the woman of your choice, not just any girl, not just you flinging money away, just someone that you care about,

you could do something nice to her because at the end of the day, you want to cater to a young lady. As you grow older, you want a woman to cater to you too because you want it to be both ways right you want something you want to feel special as well so you you both got to find each other because knowledge is a gift and a curse right if you have knowledge a relationship could be horrible because you like what do you bring it to the table if you don't have no knowledge you you go, I don't care.

I could take care of it. But then once you get knowledge, if it went that way, that woman becomes a liability. Now you're saying, my girl ain't an asset. She's a liability. And what do we all get rid of every month? Our bills. We want to pay our bills to get rid of so we ain't got to see it until the next month. That's how a woman will become to you eventually.

You love her. You care about her. But damn, you are a damn liability. You are a bill. And then you got women who do that for men. And men becomes a bill. And she gets tired of it. And the guy doesn't understand.

And most men are in bad situations than women because they don't have no money already. They credit as much stuff. They got to go to a woman and say, I know you want me to leave,

but can I stay in the other room until I get myself together? And sometimes they'll say, girls, how much time do you need? Two weeks? And it turns out to be two years and now she got to get

her brothers or family members to come over there and get you out. It weeks, and it turned out to be two years, and now she got to get her brothers or family members to come over there and get you out. That's how it works, yo. So go further. On the $20,000 to have a $20,000, what is it? $25,000. The money is for you because when you got a little change,

your choice in women is different. You move different. Most men only with the woman that they were because she was an easy grab. And most women go, oh, what do you mean? And I say, your girl's an easy grab because most of y'all date women that can't really do nothing for you. Let me prove my point. Look at your girl and ask her for $10,000. You know why you won't ask her?

Because you know she ain't got it. And my point that I'm making is, my point that I'm making is if I can't use you, if I can't make, yeah, if I can't use you, you're useless. Now watch where I'm making is my point that I'm making is if I can't use you if I can't make if I can't use you, you're useless. Now watch where I'm going. Now watch where I'm going. Just because I said I have $10,000 the women think I want it for the man but the $10,000 is not for the man

either. The $10,000 tells me where you are in your life. It tells me what you've accomplished what you've been doing. And credit score. And credit score. It tells me where you are in your life. It tells me what you've accomplished, what you've been doing. And credit score. And credit score. It tells me about your business, if you got $10,000.

Because baby, I don't want your money. I just want to see what you've accomplished with your life. And that's what we all need to do. You want to find out what a person has accomplished in their life. And then it goes back to the annuity. Well, baby, you got an extra $10,000

Because I belong to everybody I ain't going to be with you Put that $10,000 away And in 20 years, you'll thank me You'll probably be with another guy But you'll thank me Because I'll put you up on game And just don't tell the other guy

Where you learned the game from He's going to be a hater He's going to be like, who raised you? I don't want you to say T to the motherfucking kid. Now, I've heard you say that you're not

into a relationship, so when you fuck with someone and you know that she has a man you buy him something too when you come back on vacation. Let me tell you Do you still do that at 63? No, no, no.

At 60 something years old I used to date married women I used to date other men's women but not take them from them. Keep them in the relationship because the women would want to leave and rock with me but I'm busy. but not take them from them. Keep them in the relationship. Because the women will want to leave and rock with me. But I'm busy.

I don't want you going with me. So no. We don't kick it, but I'm going to encourage you to stay in a relationship. That's just game, right? So, you know, when we was young,

we bought women cars and stuff. Some women hit me up the last time they heard me say something like that and said, you ain't buying me a car. And I said, well, we wasn't like that. And I had to tell everybody to make that cut. But I worked my way up now that I meet women and the things I like to do now,

I like to buy women stair lifters. I like to buy strollers. Yeah, I like to buy strollers. Like, I like to buy strollers. Strollers? Yeah, I like to buy strollers. Like, I got money on the highway now for one of them vans to pick you up with the stair lifter. So when my girl come out, she ain't got to actually get in the car. She roll on the machine, hit the button, and it slide in.

And then we drive off. You know? I don't buy women apartments no more. I get women places at Assistant Living. Assistant Living? Yeah, so now you got to sign in at the front desk.

40 and over? 40 and over? No, about 50. Yeah, 50. I date the 40s, because they come pick me up at 7 from Assistant Living. But most of the places

I stay in, it's got a curfew. As long as I get back by 10.30, because Shirley upstairs comes sleep with me about midnight. And I heard you talk about Patricia.

What was her name? Beatrice. Beatrice. Yeah, the reason why I rock with Beatrice is because she has a sleep number mattress. Yeah. Yeah. 72. Yeah, She's 72.

She's 73. She's 72. Yeah, 72. Beecher. Shout out to Beecher. Can you tell the young men that's out there, what's the difference between an old girl and a young one? Oh, wow.

That's a good question. Tell them because they don't know. And you got them a lot. I'm just asking. Tell them. No? Oh, wow. That's a good question. Tell them, because they don't know. And you got them a lot. I'm just asking. Because most, they don't know. They young, they dumb full of cum, and then people that's at that age, it's not

you know what I mean? They're not thinking about no young girl, because they like, man, I ain't trying to chase it. But what is the difference a the difference is a flight pattern see everybody on this planet has a flight pattern we all take off a certain way in life and we all have altitudes that we go and those those altitudes as you travel and create experiences because you create experiences led us to everything that we say to each other today. So when you date an older woman, you're hoping that that person has wisdom and knowledge how to take care of a man. What happens with most women, they have that ability. They have,

they know how to take care of the man, but it's something that no one gave them game on, was to love yourself first. So they weight they get out of shape they become unattractive and men are visual men are visual to the point that we want someone to be great in shape to look good even when you're older because it's possible so sometimes you lead towards the younger girl because she has the body she took care of herself. Her honey pop between the legs is still honey, right? But their mentality, they don't have the experience to date an older man because I have these situations happen in my life. In my head, I haven't said it to nobody in a long time. Dating me is like trying to get into Harvard. Everybody's not going to get accepted.

Meaning you have to have the mentality to pass the exam to rock with me. So you're in a bind. You want a woman who has a home already. She gets equity. She got a 401k. She know how to take trips. But does she dress and bring that sex appeal lust out of you to really make love, to really want to be with her? You got some women who will meet a young man because they have money.

They are buy men and a real man sometimes don't want to be bored because they see the game. They see, okay, you buy me this, buy me that. I appreciate the gifts, but I'm not really feeling you like that. I can't give you but I'm not really feeling you like that. I can't give you the gifts back because most men are taught that's for your time. When a woman buys you a gift, that's for your time. Whether I talked to you on the phone, I made you feel a certain way, that's why I'm accepting that. But baby, you don't turn me on like that to be with you forever. So you sit and you

try to balance it out. How can you balance out? A little luck on your side. You got to have a little luck. What's a little luck? Is that you hope that you find something about that woman that truly wants to keep you there.

And some men, I'm not going to say the word settle, they deal with certain things because they don't have their thing together. So they wind up dating someone they really don't love or like. It's a horrible feeling.

Or they date someone that's really out of shape, really not attractive. And you're doing it because no one else will want you because you don't have your life together. No one else will want them. want them yeah exactly you don't have nothing to offer right you just got minimal but this but love is love right someone love you and you can rock with it

and you and you can pretend any woman i rock with gotta be gorgeous but you have to have all these other things i meet a lot of women who are gorgeous but don't have all these other things then you have me being 63 right my trust and will is already done so i can't really offer a woman something but just knowledge and i can try to set you up that you can be successful one day you get older because I have never dated nobody my age. Everybody I date has always been 20 years, 15 years younger than me. So I try to give them knowledge so they could be successful. But then you got women who don't like a strong man because they was not raised around strong men.

So what you try to do is you change your words. You say, well, may I suggest something? Because I don't want to tell you what to do is you change your words up. You say, well, may I suggest something? Because I don't want to tell you what to do because I've got kids. I ain't going to try to tell another grown woman what to do. So it's based on the man. It's based on the female. It's based on how someone makes you feel. I like to desire a woman.

I want to look at a woman because she's so beautiful, so knowledgeable, that I desire you. Because guess what happens one day? Most people say I date her, I love her because she makes me laugh. Well one day, one day they don't make you laugh anymore. One day, one day she's not beautiful anymore. One day, the things that you like about that person

is gone. So what I want to share with people here, you want to meet someone that you can get into the depths of their soul. That that's what you love. Because most of us are surfers, artificial in a sense, right? We're surfers. But we got to get so deep because as we get older, we're about to lose all of this, whatever that is.

Some might be in a wheelchair. Somebody might be sick. You want someone to love you that when you start bowel moving on yourself, they don't mind turning you over and wiping your ass. You understand what I'm saying? You don't mind someone you can't walk one day. They love you so much they'll do whatever they can to get you in that chair and walk you down the stairs but you don't want someone to take you

somewhere and leave you there yeah you're done alone and this is my last question oh yes sir you also said three of your kids was one night stands for my kids was one night stands yeah four but i was on that sling your dick tour when i was young i had no respect for my pain now the great thing about that Lord now. I ain't slinging like I used to. Jesus Christ. But here's the thing about my children. They are all successful. There you go. My oldest daughter is a brain surgeon.

God. I just forget to the brain I know I've been going on this little arc here I understand how does this one night

and you just you're sitting there you're like man this is it let me tell you something yo it took me years to figure out what you just said

because when you're young you got good dick because I got good dick gang oh my god oh my god I wasn't ready Oh my god Look look look guys I wasn't ready

Look at that And I didn't have OG's I lived by trial and error That's like I could tell And give so much knowledge to things because I actually been through it. But I didn't have nobody

to give me that kind of game. So when I was getting sex, like I was, sex to me was like an art. I was in it, not just love. It was creating a painting. It was creating a movement.

It was creating the atmosphere. So I'm meeting women and instead of, it was one night movement it was creating the atmosphere so i'm meeting women and instead of it's really it was one night but we were saying that there is carlton's two three days and i'm just eating and nothing eating and nothing that's what i'm doing you know i'm thinking i'm the man right not thinking of the consequences i got room service We laying in the bed. We go out shopping. Come back, nothing. And then you have these kids. But to anybody listening to me,

and you about to have sex, and you not wearing a condom, and you don't want to take birth control, all I want you to do is get in your car one day, especially the guys, and drive in your local neighborhood, and go to every daycare and ask what's the price and that's your birth control oh can you find out how much daycare costs we would not want to have a child 500 500. 500? That's two weeks. 500? Where he at? He ain't got no kids. Those niggas ain't got no kids.

No, no. It's like in the thousands. A week. A week. A week. No matter what for my babies. He ain't got no kids neither. Yeah.

I can tell what he said. He said that to confidence. Yeah. Both of them ain't got no kids. No, no, no. So I want y'all to have sex, but please be mindful. I wish I had someone. But don't get me wrong.

I'm glad my children are here. And like I said, ain't nothing I can do about it now. Right. How many you got, TK? I have seven children. I got six. Yeah. You got six?

Yeah, OK. Good. Thanks. Yeah. He's warm. He's good. Oh, right. I can see the model.

He got a lot of swag Yeah but Kids are great I'm happy I spent When I'm old And I'm thinking about my mother right now My mother always say TK what you gonna do for your birthday I'm like oh mom cool

When my children ask me tomorrow Dad what you do for your birthday I'm gonna like, oh, mom, cool. When my children ask me tomorrow, dad, what'd you do for your birthday? I'm going to tell them I spent it with Drink Champ, dog. I mean that. My daughter's always like, dad, what you going to do for your birthday? They was really concerned about it. This is one of the

finest Japanese whiskeys. I had it sitting in my crib waiting. I was like, I just need one reason. Wow, that's awesome, yo. To drink this, and then I couldn't think of no better reason, man. I couldn't think of no better reason than to drink it with you. But the fact that it's your birthday, that was just an honor. I just want you to know as a man, man, like, you know

how great you are, how always, you are always welcome here. You always show me love, Nori. It's your show. And one thing that me and you both have in common is we check on people. Yes, sir. You already know. Go tell him. I notice that, and I'm like, I'm like, he doesn't even know that I'm like that.

Right. Like, that's what I do. I just check, hey, everything good? No problem. I don't need you for nothing. Like, cool I do. I just check, yeah, yeah, yeah, everything good. No problem. I don't need you for nothing. Like, cool, peace. I just want to make sure you're good. And you're one of the only people that you do it to me. Yes, sir, I do. And you don't get back to me, Dory.

Yes, I do do it back to you. You get back when you get ready. Yeah, yeah, I do do it because I'm in the plane when I'm not alone. Listen, I appreciate it. You do me everywhere. Yes, yes. You do. And I hate you all the time. And I just wanted to say. And let's stress that more. That is do me everywhere. Yes, yes. You do. And I hate you all the time.

And I just wanted to say. And let's stress that more. That is some real shit. Yes. And let's stress why you. Tell me why you do that. And I'm going to tell you why I do it. You go first.

How about that? We interview you. Here's the thing that people don't understand. When we come into each other and we have a bond, we are connected energy wise to the day we die that's right people always talk about investing what are you investing they always talk about companies but nobody talks about time and health and time is the most precious commodity known to man but it's like watching that sun you didn't it until you saw it because it was free. Watching that sunrise and watching that sunset is a price.

If you was locked up or was in the home and you couldn't come out or you was blind but you was always able to see it, but now you can't see no more, you would cherish those things. People don't cherish stuff that they're supposed to cherish. I cherish friendship. I cherish meeting people. We don't have to talk all the time, but when I think of you, I'm going to say,

yo, you good? That means a lot to me. Also, that's something as being a gentleman, because guess what? I know next year I might want to be on your show. I don't like people who only reach out when they want something. You've got to reach out as a man every now and then before you need something to say, hey, how you doing? I just didn't want to make this phone call about asking you for something.

I want to let you know I care about you, what's going on. So when I do need something, if you have the wisdom, you're like, oh, that's my man. Oh, yeah, we're going to take care of him. Let's make it happen. That's how I am about that, fam. And I love you. And then, like I said, I follow you. And I'm so impressed.

I said, who's financing him? You know what that's called, though? That's called having good relations. And sometimes I say that to the youngins because, you know, that's called though that's called having good relations and sometimes i say that to the youngins because you know that's the one thing like that's the reason why i brung that up earlier is the one thing that i do feel like i failed like like um with helping a young generation like i don't reach out to them unless they reach out to me because i don't i don't want i don't want to be the i don't want to be the quote unquote, oh, that's the old head, right? And I'm trying to school them, but they're like,

whatever. Didn't you move on to podcasting? You know what I'm saying? It's just always just that game right there. And that's just like, yo, I always want to, because when I text people, when I text, yo, positive energy,

yo, man, wherever you at in the world, do this. It's probably never a young dude in that text. So true. Yeah, because it's just so, they made it so hard for me to reach them. But it's also my duty as a person who made it before them. Yes. To do that. Yes, it's good to say hello

because here's the thing about life. Right now, all of us are looking at each other. Believe it or not, this might be the last time we all, somebody may not be here the next time we see each other. Crazy.

Crazy. This could, everybody you meet, that could be your last time ever seeing them ever again. I'll be here though. I'm just being honest. That's deep, right?

Deep. But nobody thinks like that. And again, all i do is give people another way of looking at life and that's what i do i give you another way of looking because you see how this shit go yeah see how this shit go this shit right here for real hey your fan text me and he wanted to say he hope you had a good time yeah and he's sorry he's not here, but he was doing some of the stuff. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. We appreciate that. That's the greatest thing that anyone had to ever say to me. And you know what's crazy about it?

He got it from you, I believe. Right. No, no, I know he got it from me. I know he did. Because you looked at him and said, you look like you ain't going to call him. Right, right. Man, I got to stop for me to get another one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm sure I'm about to get one. I'm sure. I believe that won't decrest. He get one every six months. How many years? It's like he like it. How many years apart? Straighten up.

Get it together. The doctor tells you. It's been 10 for me, so it's time for me to get another one. But they got a machine. If you got the money, you ain't got to get it the way they do it. They have a machine that I go to in Vegas. They put your whole body into this thing and they could detect

everything in your body. No, that's too rich. It's because $3,000 was worth it. Sounds like a cat scan. Yeah, it sounds like a cat scan. You don't even have to do that. But then they also have this thing and I want everybody to listen to me. There's a thing called

Lifeline Screening. We love when's a thing called Lifeline Screening. Yeah, we love when you promote that. Lifeline Screening. Google that. It's $149. It's a diagnostic to a doctor. See, a doctor can only tell you, you tell the doctor what's wrong with you. And they got to look like they're going to a crystal ball to tell you what's wrong.

Lifeline Screening, they put shings on you. They test you. You could have a stroke. They test your bone situation, right? Lifeline, lifeline screening. They test inside your stomach because most people think when you get an aneurysms on your head, but I always use this for an example. Tommy from Martin died of an aneurysm is all in your head. But I always use this for an example. Tommy from Martin

died of an aneurysm. It was in his stomach. People don't know you can get an aneurysm in your stomach. They only throw it in his brain. Most people who say aneurysm, they think the brain. But he got it in his stomach and that's the stuff that Lifeline screams.

Everybody should get that. $149. It'll tell you everything if you're eligible for a stroke, if you're going to die of a stroke. It's the gateway of new medicine. It's really the truth.

Drink Chance Army, get the stocks on that too. Let's go. We want to say happy birthday, man. Thank you, man. Let's light the cake. Let's light the cake. I, let's like the cake? Let's cut the cake. Okay, how you doing?

Yeah, I want everybody to have a piece of cake because I ain't taking it with me. Yeah, yeah. All right, cool. Oh, yeah. Please, don't take the cake. Yeah, let's cut the cake up. Yeah, let's cut the cake. Okay, hell yeah.

Totally. AB, you still here? AB gone. Nino, you still here, right? Okay, we're going to cut this cake, Nino. Yeah, let's go. Y'all know Nino Brown? Bring him in. Yeah, bring Nino Brown in, man. Okay, we're gonna cut this cake Nino Bring me no brown in man. Well, no Yo, that bad boy jacket. The bad boy jacket. I love it.

I love it. I love it. Yeah, we cut this cake. Cut it with us, yo. You got a sports team, TK? You know what? I just like great competition. I don't have a team.

I don't bet. I just love great competition. But I can tell you what was phenomenal, the LSU and Iowa game. Did you hear, now that you said that, did you hear the fact that they had the most watched views? I saw that. I read it. They had the most watched views ever over any MLB game, over any NFL playoff game, over any NBA game. Boxing?

They didn't go there. They said MLB game, NFL game, NBA game. The most watched viewers for that one game. They didn't go there. They said MLB game, NFL game, NBA game. The most watched viewers for that one game. It was college? Yeah, it's there. The great thing about it, I didn't know if I should go for Iowa or go for LSU.

But my whole life, and I've always thought I love the underdog. What made it interesting to me, the reason I wanted Iowa to win is because But my whole life, and I've always thought I love the underdog. Thanks. And what made it interesting to me, the reason I wanted Iowa to win, is because LSU got them last year. True. And to have, when you come back to be revengeful,

it's always something that I've always loved. Because when I used to lose track meets, everybody knew after four years of college that T.K. Kirkland was going to win the following week. It was just a competition type thing. But I wanted to see LSU go up against South Carolina again.

Now here's Energy again. The young lady to me who was on LSU. Angel Reese. Angel Reese. Yeah, that's her name. See, Energy, when you don't act humble because of your success, the universe will take it from you.

And I saw that they took off the team once or twice during the season. She's being disrespectful to the coach. She's being disrespectful. Even though she's playing, I'm not the bad guy. But, fam, when you're in sports,'m not the bad guy. But fam, when you're in sports, see, no matter how great you are, you still got to have a little luck.

She actually declared for the WNBA yesterday. Oh, she did? Yeah, so go for it. They're getting millions of dollars to women now before they ever get to them. Well, they're getting millions from sponsorship, but they're getting that million in the game. Hopefully they'll change that get Well, they're getting millions from sponsorship but they're getting that million in the game. Hopefully they'll change that.

Sponsorship. Yeah, they're getting millions in sponsorship which is awesome. But it's a great thing. I just want the team of the future is USC.

South Carolina. No, USC. University of Southern California. Okay. Because the young girl, the freshman girl, the reason why. Yeah, Juju Watkins.

Yeah, Juju. The reason why she's going to be successful is because how painful she took a loss. See, when you come in the league and you hurt that bad, you use that to fuel you for the rest of your career. Yeah. She will remember that feeling for a long time. I got something for that, Come back the same way. LSU won last year. Yes.

And Caitlin Clark, the young girl from Iowa. Yes. She could have declared for the WNBA then. Yes, she could. And she said, you know, I'm going to stay my senior year. Yes. And that build up a whole record breaking season. Yes.

But it goes back to what I showed you. I was saying you right. A true athlete. Once you lose to someone, you can't wait to get them back. Right. Even if that's not their perspective, you still want to win. You want to win.

And she came back to try to get them. And I just love competition like that. Yeah, let's go. Yeah, I love competition like that. And it's going to be good to see if South Carolina makes it. But I got a feeling UConn going to get them. Well, UConn is UConn against Iowa. And South Carolina is playing against NC State.

So here's my thing. And NC State is... UConn is going to beat Iowa. Facts. It's okay. You said UConn over everybody. I said UConn is going to beat Iowa Facts It's okay You said UConn over everybody I said UConn is going to win the men's Yeah Let me tell you why I think UConn is going to win

Because when you're in sports There's a thing called pride See pride can take you a long way UConn have been there so many times Right They haven't been in a while But they got history Because of the young lady as well

Yeah But what I'm saying is They've been there And they haven't been in a while Right So now They're going back So when we used to play

Run track and stuff And we walked in We won championships Because of Everybody who was there before us Because they was champions So even if you're just A mediocre runner

Yo You're going to bust your butt To continue That's the same thing with them Now who's on the other side The South Carolina Against NC State They got They got Isaiah James But to continue, that's the same thing with them. Now, who's on the other side? Is South Carolina who? Against NC State.

They got Isaiah James. She's a junior, I think, or a sophomore. They're the underdog team. They weren't supposed to be where they're at now. But South Carolina got Coach Don Staley. Yeah, South Carolina's gone. South Carolina will be back. Yeah. The thing that's impressive to me is Purdue playing North Carolina State

in the men's. That's men's. Yes. Now, this is my opinion. I think North Carolina pulls it off. Wow.

You got the Cinderella story. Well, let me tell you why I think they pull it off. Listen. Because I think the kid DJ, the kid DJ the center can out hustle

that kid from Purdue in the middle. DJ Burns against Zach 80. That's what you're talking about. It's going to be a. How much taller is he? Bro, he's about four to five inches taller. Zach 80, Purdue kid, he's seven foot something.

He's a big man. He's a big man, but that kid from North Carolina is strong. Yeah, he is. And all they got to do, but it's going to be hard for him to go post him because that guy's tall. And he stayed out for a good team. Yep, you said that. He's tall. The goal to—

He dropped 40 against Duke. Yeah, the thing to go—if I was the coach, we'll run it all night because by the fourth quarter, he'll be tired. And then we'll start posting. That will be the game plan. We're going to run it. My experience, I would say go to him. Go right to his chest and follow him out

because he's going to want to block. He's going to want to jump in. Just go right to his chest. Right. You're right, too. Yeah, I love that strategy as well. Yeah, that's dope, too. How you been, Mr. Brown?

I want to thank you for coming through, dog. Yeah, thank you, sir. We've been trying to thank you for coming through. Yeah, thank you, sir. We've been trying to hook up for years. We finally meet. Yeah, kicking that game on you, man. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Thank you for coming, Mr. Nino Brown.

Tell us what's going on with you. Take advantage of this opportunity. Mm-hmm. I saw love, man. Yeah, from Miami, Florida, you know. Okay. I get that ism, too, man. And, you know, in a comedic way,

you know, I break down a lot of game too. But I follow this brother, man, a long time. He legendary. Absolutely. Yeah. What part of Miami you at? I'm from Cairns City, where Ross from. Thanks.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I've been hustling a long time. Yeah, I remember. A few times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to work with DJ Khaled long time. Yeah, I remember we came around a few times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to work with DJ Khaled. Okay.

Yeah, you know Brown. Yeah. We're going to have to connect. I got something for you off camera. Okay, no problem. I've been outside for a long time. Long time. I fuck with my dog.

Okay, he's from Carroll City. Just throw it out there, home team and out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know where in 305 he's from, but I fuck with my dog. Believe that. And he ain't drunk talking. He's been out there. So I'm just saying like I

mean it, like I feel it. No. Higgum the best part. Higgum the cake. Okay, yeah. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Let's make sure everybody get a piece first Happy birthday, DJ. Oh, yeah. He got it. Yeah, he got it. Yeah. He got it. Salud.

Salud. Let's make sure everybody get a piece first. OK, yeah, yeah, before you. Yeah, don't be rude. Don't be rude. Who raised you? Yeah, who raised you? Yeah.

I got another shot left. You got another shot left? I got another shot. Happy birthday once again. Happy birthday to the face of one of the biggest fucks that ever lived. Happy birthday. On the quick time with slime,

I was going to ask you, what do you think? Brooklyn Nets or New Jersey Nets? I don't follow them like that. Okay. Yeah, but who won last night between Miami Heat and the Knicks? Oh, you ain't got to bring that up.

You know what happened. Come on. By chance. Okay, by chance. I was taught you. Okay. This is a whole bunch of New York and Miami boys here. Oh, OK.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We argue all day. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Thank you for coming. Everybody got family. Everybody got as well.

People are getting it. I bought two points. No way. What? That's it? Everybody got? Everybody good? Did you get the staff some?

Make sure they get some. Everybody. Oh, yeah, this is good. Where this cake from? This is good. That's good. Yeah, Miami won just in case nobody heard. Nah, what's up?

Nah. You're not lucky. You got Jimmy Buckets. It's not that. Daddy Rozier hit that three from. Who's the team now in the NBA? Who's the team that's more so now? No, OKC's the shit right now.

OKC? OK, really? OKC, it got a young team, and they winning. Who's the young guy who broke the spring almost when he did that dunk? Minnesota. Minnesota, whoo. Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards?

He cold, brother. And he only 22, 23. What, baby? He's 22. We can fact check that, but yeah. Wow. They said Zion is playing good now. Yeah, Zion.

Oh, Zion's doing it. They're blowing teams out by 20-30. Wait, Zion? Zion Williams. He got Brandon Ingram with him. He has someone else. He lost weight? Yeah.

I don't know about that. I remember last time I said he ain't losing. But he playing. Brandon Ingram and who else He got focused He should have went to the Knicks He can't get traded if he ain't playing well He's 22 Contract year Anthony Edwards is 22

From Minnesota, 22 years old Zion He wants to get traded He should He's been 6 years in New Orleans two years old. Zion. He wants to get traded, yo. I mean, he's been six years in New Orleans, probably played two weeks. He's ready to go. Miami's ready for him. Just in case anybody's wondering.

See you again. Excuse me, can I have one more slice of cake, please? This is good. This is good. This is phenomenal This cake is wonderful Right? Yes, it is. Come on, man. Who made this? I don't know. I told my man to give me a cake, and he told me he was going to get it. But when he said it was $140, $170 with Uber, they dropped it off.

He told you how much it cost? No, I set it all up. I told you, my own manager. That's horrible. You know, I wasn't depending on you to make this reservation. I made sure it happened. I made sure it happened. I made sure it was successful. I thought it was a surprise.

You didn't really do. No, I already knew. Yeah, I already knew. That's the only thing. TK, I would have got it for you, T. T, I would have got it for you, man. I don't know. It would have looked like this, though.

No, he would have got his name on it. He did you. He that, there's no. No, he would have got his name on it. I knew you. He's fucking funny, man. That's what happened. He knew what his name was. T.J., excuse me. I'm sorry, T.J. All right, how about this?

At least I would have told you what you called me. Right, right. No, I knew what you called me. I would have kept that secret. I knew. I knew already. Yeah, birth, birth together, yo. Where you from?

I think this is the first time we celebrated anybody's birthday. And it's a cake. Mm-hmm. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I agree. I knew. I knew already. Yeah, birth, birth, together, yo. I think this is the first time we celebrated anybody's birthday. And the cake. And the cake. And the cake.

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And the cake. And the cake. And the cake. And the cake. And the cake. And the cake. And the cake. And the cake. brought out a star and I couldn't have thought of a better star we won't finish the cake little bit of the Japanese and while we on air uh-huh when you go to Japan I'm coming up there I'm hitting you early early I'm coming to Japan and I tell people this is a they should take trips. Two months in advance. I always tell people to take trips

when there's something going on. Some people take trips and there's nothing going on. You're like, I don't like it. Well, you went. You went when it was raining. It was raining.

You chose that. Yeah, you got to go when something's going on. What part of Japan are y'all going? I go all over Japan. See, you got to realize. No, when you do the interview.

Yeah, no, the interview, I'm actually waiting for Reza to tell me where. But I've been all over Japan. It's crazy. The couple times. I went to Japan with 8-Ball and MJG. It was Capone and Noriega, 8-Ball and MJG. This is like the most different shit I had so much fun with them

in fact that was I swear to God I know I said this story but maybe I did maybe I didn't that was the first time

I seen motherfuckers drink I did say this story there was a scissor they was calling the scissor and they was like boom and me and april

mjg we toured like for like a month straight like we saw each other oh we was that i really want to talk about this on drink chat right but i'll tell you this we flew back from japan straight flight i don't know if it was LA that it landed in. And I woke up. And this is how I knew, like, lean was kind of, like, dangerous a little bit. I didn't touch it. They offered us or whatever it's called, scissor. I know this stuff.

And I woke up. And the lady, because, come on, we're coming from Japan. There's only, like, five black people. They know we're together. They know we're together. Japan. There's only like five black people. They know we're together. They know we're together. It's easy to say that. And I remember her saying to me,

is your friend okay? And I was like, what? She was like, I can't tell if he's okay. And I'm like, what do you mean? She said, he didn't move for 11 hours. Wow. 11 hours.

One position. Wow. And you know, they see people pass away a lot on the plane. Yeah. Especially. People don't, people don't realize that people die on the flight.

No, man, I ain't know that. Yeah. Yeah. People die on there. Yo, I've actually seen I didn't know that. Yeah. People die on there, yo. Really? I've actually seen that shit. Yeah, I've seen people pass away on the plane. Well, they got to land right away.

Well, you got to land right away or you don't know they're deceased until they know they're dead. You see the staff be emotional, they'll keep it. They're not going to make no scene. They'll cover going to make no scene. They'll cover the person as you're walking by,

but the person's dead. And they looking like they're sleeping, you said? Yeah, they're sleeping right there. Yeah, they don't want to panic people. I didn't think about what you were saying. Yeah, they don't want to panic. So that's why she said that. As soon as they know.

There's nothing they can do. Especially over the ocean, what can you do? Damn. Over the ocean? Yeah, I'm just saying. You don't want to announce that shit. You don't want to be like, hey. So you know.

Over water? There's nowhere to go. Bro, 18C is the dead view there. So what do they do with the people sitting next to them? They got to live with it, dog. No shit. What are you doing? I'm eating cake.

Come on, cake. I ain't going to lie. That cake's opening them up. I'm kind of cool. No, I'm not. Go ahead. Go ahead't going to lie. That cake's opening them up. I'm kind of cool. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead, Adam. You need that sugar.

We good, guys? We straight? Yeah, we straight. This is it. All right? You going to take a picture? And you got to do drops? Absolutely.

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