Drink Champs - Episode 415 w/ Insane Clown Posse

Episode Date: June 21, 2024

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legendary Insane Clown Posse!ICP joins us to share their insane journey in hip-hop!The Leaders of the juggalos share stories of coming up in Detroit. ICP talks Eminem, Kid Rock, Walt Disney and much more.Insane Clown Posse share stories of backyard wrestling, dealing with the FBI and much much more!Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise for ICP!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆   *Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code DRINKCHAMPS and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-drink-champs *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Now, me and my brother EFN, when we started this, we wanted to give flowers to legends. We wanted to give flowers to people who has been here, who has stood the test of time. These people that I'm about to announce has not only stood the test of time. Before you heard of Master P doing independent, before you heard of all these other people doing independent, these guys was doing it. Had festivals, have festivals right now. And it's the highest festival you could ever go to.

Literally. Literally. They continue... I'm sorry, I'm trying to keep it straight. But they continuously have tremendously participated in this game of hip hop, showed loyalty, stayed consistent,

stayed in their own lane. You never heard of them doing nothing crazy. You always heard of them doing something that is crazy. I personally I was on what I call vacation but when they said ICP is here

I caught the first flight out to make sure I'm here to make sure I participate in this greatness to make sure that I give you brothers y'all flowers to y'all face.

Man, is that true? This is, yeah, yeah. It's on my Instagram. Yeah, it's on my gram. He flew in this morning. I flew in this morning. Right now. I didn't even go to my house.

I don't even know how my house smells. He just asked you so gently, too. He's like, is that true? Hold on a minute, though. Hold on, hold on. We got to introduce you guys.

In case y'all don't know who the hell we talking about we're talking about icp motherfucking insects look man just just the fact that we just got one of those super duper fucking nori intros holy shit man okay but hold on but hold on. Let me just ask y'all, because I'm weird. So I either drink vodka or I drink Japanese whiskey. I would like you brothers to tell me which you want me to drink.

Japanese, man. Japanese whiskey? Yeah, you got to go with Japanese. Let's go Japanese. My man, I just got back from Japan. Right? Germany! Where you going, Germany?

And I didn't... Where was that? Osaka? No, I was in Tokyo. Tokyo? Yeah. Cleanest place in the world. I don't put toilet paper on the toilet when I shit.

You don't need to, because there's water on there. I'm being honest. I'm sorry. I apologize. But I don't... That's the only place in the world, that and Dubai, I don't put toilet paper on the toilet. Well, you know. Do you put toilet paper on the toilet?

Why the fuck don't we just give up and get them bomb ass Japanese toilets over here? Oh, on the totoes? Of course. What the fuck? Obviously, they did something smart on me. I was just sitting in that month. I'm going to let that warm water hit my butthole for hours. You know what I'm saying?

I'm like, hell yeah. You see that? You know this is going to be a great interview. How the fuck did we start off by talking about Japanese toilets? It's a shit. We're over here with our bitch ass shit like, no, this is better. Frontman. But let me ask you something because one of the beautiful things about

ICP is the loyalty to your fans. I can't you know, other than I think Tech N9ne right? I can't think of a group's fan base

that's so loyal. Like, you guys can fucking, you know, with no disrespect to Wichita, Kansas, you guys can do a show anywhere. I'm about to be in Wichita, Kansas in like a week and a half. Oh, shit. Straight the fuck up. This is prophetic over here, man. What the fuck?

That's why he got the Jesus up. This is prophetic over here, man, what the fuck? That's why he got the Jesus candle. But, but, but, you know, with all love, how did y'all develop that? Shout out to the Juggalos, bro. Yeah, the Juggalos, bro.

I'm a Juggalo, just so you know. Okay, continue. We got to get chatted now. Okay, all right, yeah. I don't got no tattoos or earrings. It's the first one, man.

Okay, okay. But, okay, so how does that, how do you create that? Man, we just started back in the day ground up, first one, man. Okay, okay. Look ahead. So how does that, how do you create that? Man, we just started back in the day ground up, hard work, man. You know, when we first started out in Detroit

in, what the fuck, like 1990, you know what I'm saying? We didn't know any other way to do it, but like, come out with records yourself, you know what I'm saying? Man, we weren't trying to get no, I mean, we didn't believe

nobody was going to come get us. No, hell no. They were just doing it for fun at first. No, no, no. As soon as we did this shit, as soon as we did this shit, I want to tell you

what's really going on. There was no turning back. We were like, it's this or nothing. That's that. Let's just go a little bit before that. Yeah, go all the way back.

Okay. When we met, you know what I'm saying, there was three of us. His older brother, John, we were all un-fucking-separated. I thought y'all all was brothers. Huh?

I thought y'all all was brothers. No. That's my brother. Might as well be now. You know what I'm saying? That's my brother. I'm talking about like since fucking nine, ten years old, I've known this motherfucker. You know what I'm saying?

Okay, continue. So, yeah, man. We, you know the secret in laws of attraction and all that? Mm-hmm. You can't hope for something. You can't. I mean, you can pray for it, of course, but you can't wish. All you got to do is fucking know.

I like that. For real, man. No. Yeah. We had no fucking doubt from the age of probably 12 till hip hop over took this dream that we were

it's not even a fucking dream it's a fact that we were going to be wrestlers pro wrestlers we were backyard wrestlers before backyard wrestlers were wrestling it was a fight I used to tell these motherfuckers at school I used to tell these motherfuckers at school, man. I used to tell these motherfuckers at school, man, get my autograph right now, motherfucker.

Before. Could you picture that now? You know what I'm saying? Because, motherfucker, one day you'd be like, I would school that, but go ahead and get the motherfucking signature, bitch. You know what I'm saying? Get you some motherfucking eBay money later. I can predict that shit but anyway

we knew it so um when we we became um you know hip hop took that wrestling shit right

you know what I'm saying the whole thing is when when you make something your whole being you know what I'm saying like we didn't we didn't do nothing but what we this shit you know what I'm saying? Like, like we didn't, we didn't do nothing,

but what we, this shit, you know what I'm saying? We didn't go hang out and do some other shit. We ate, slept, breathed it since kids. You know what I'm saying?

That was all we knew how to do. We trained circus monkeys. You know what I'm saying? It's just like, that was it. The grind day after day. We didn't go to parties. We didn't go.

We didn't do shit, but this. That's it, man. Nothing else. And quick story. You know the secret and all that shit? Go ahead.

The book? The secret? Yeah. Okay. That's what I'm talking about. The laws of attraction. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How it's a positive thing.

How it's a positive thinking. Like I said, we knew. It was a fact we were going to be wrestlers, right? So even though hip hop overtook our fucking passion for that shit, right? When we had our first fucking platinum record in 97, or no, this was 99,

fucking WWE called us, right? These motherfuckers, and they're like, you want to see the- Were they WWF at the time? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yes, they were, you're right. The real shit. Yeah, with the big Yeah, yeah. Oh, yes, they were. You're right. The real shit. Yeah, with the big silver fucking sign.

Yes, yes, yes. So they call and they're like, hey, man, we got this group called Humanities. We want you to make the ring music. You know what I mean? We're like, do you motherfuckers know we rock too? And know how to, good. And know how to break.

I wrestled before I rapped, bro. I was 19. I fucking was an independent wrestler in the Midwest. You know what I'm saying? I wrestled as Corporal Darryl Daniels, right? I had a fucking mullet, right? What the fuck? I had a mullet in the Army.

The thing that was funny was I only did that shit because my brother was in the army and he was sending me that fucking gear. And I was like, yeah, I'm corporate. There it is now. So, but man, fuck wrestling. Naked ass wrestlers in the dressing room with their fucking bed and all that shit

with their dick in their back. For some odd reason, I read it in a wrestling locker room. The motherfuckers don't wear pants and underwears. You know what I'm saying? They'll just sit there and converse with your ass with their dick hanging out. All they do is like, come on, man. Shut the fuck up.

All they do is just tease, say fart, man. Maybe we can have this conversation with pants on. I mean, it ain't that hard to put some fucking underwears on. You know what I'm saying? They already have naked when they're wrestling. They do the fuck out and then have a talk with you. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I don't want to go over to match with you right now, man.

Your fucking balls are chilling. Jerry King Lawler. Jerry King Lawler was having a conversation with this motherfucker with his dick. Dick, just hang it right here. Just like, go put that away somewhere. You know what I'm saying? Right here.

We're going for the dick record already on Drink Jazz. Fucking insanity. That's the reason why I don't model, just so you know. No, they invited me to a fashion show one time, and I went back there. I'm so sorry to cut you off. You want some Japanese whiskey? I do. I wanted a sip of that.

Go on. Give me what I'm saying. Out of Detroit. Detroit, very rough city. But if you don't know Detroit, all you kind of think of is the motor. You know what I mean? What was it? General Motors?

Oh, all right. General Motors City. Yeah, yeah, yeah. GM's about to be moving out of Detroit. GM, that's what I mean? What was it? General Motors? Oh, all right. General Motors. Yeah, yeah, yeah. GM's about to be moving out of Detroit. GM, that's what I meant to say. Yeah, they're moving out of Detroit. So let's describe to people who've never been to Detroit. There ain't shit in Detroit.

Let's keep it real. There ain't even a fucking mall in the entire city limits. Nah. I didn't even realize how fucked up Detroit was and segregated, eight mile, all black people on one side, white on the other. I'm like, what the fuck? There's literally a wall on the east side of Detroit.

Going across backyards, like a Berlin wall. It's enormous, right? It goes for however, right? Grosse Pointe, Michigan, one of the richest fucking cities in the world. I mean in America. On the other side of that wall.

Straight crack. Crack. You know what? Check it out. Like years ago, like this is so long ago. We were in Dallas, Texas. And we were at one of those

fucking like Bennigan's or you know what I'm saying? One of those stupid fucking restaurants with shit all over the walls. And we're sitting there eating. I look outside. It's all this nice green grass. There's like all kinds of these restaurants around.

There's a mall off in the distance. Looking nice as fuck, you know? And the waitress comes up and I'm like, I'm like, what city are we in right now? She was like, Dallas. I was like, I understand we're in Dallas, but like what suburb? Like where are we at in Dallas? You know what I'm saying? How far outside we're at? She's like, no, you're in Dallas, the city limits.? Where are we at in Dallas? How far outside we're at?

She's like, no, you're in Dallas, the city limits. I was like, get the fuck out of here. How could we be? It's all my shit. Not used to that. There's not one 7-Eleven in Detroit. Downtown? None.

Downtown? Fuck no, they ain't got none of that shit. They'll just get robbed. None of that shit in Detroit. None of that shit in Detroit. Not that shit! Unless it's like, there might be there might be downtown because it's a fucking, you know, all shit is downtown, of course, right?

And that shit changed, man. Fuck. It's safe there now. Just downtown. I went to Detroit one time and it had no city lights. I was... Check this out.

We don't smoke with light. Check this. Fuck light, it's overrated. But check this out. Okay, downtown, right? Are you drinking? No, I don't drink, man. I abused that privilege long ago.

Downtown is all the freeways in the city, right? Are fucking packed. Rush hour nine and five, right? Packed, going downtown. You can fucking fly 400 miles an hour coming out to the suburbs, right? At five, it's packed the other way. You get what I'm saying? Out to the suburbs to spend all that money.

They made it in the city. But they eating it like fucking vampires every day, right? And Detroit is just like... There's nothing, man. Come on. It's all downtown. That's all they fucking care about. You know what I'm saying?

They don't give a fuck. That's all where the white people... Right outside downtown. That's all they fucking care about. You know what I'm saying? They don't give a fuck. That's all where the white people. Right outside downtown. Forget about it. That's where all the white people are. Listen, man. Let's talk about white people for a second. For real, man.

I like white people, just so you know. Okay, well, fuck white people. Want to throw that? No, I'm going to keep it real, man. Since the beginning, this motherfucking ball of mud been spinning around, right? White people fucking think they own it all. You get what I'm saying?

What the fuck is in that mind? You right? They enslave everybody else. Oh, fuck y'all. All these people, when they arrive in the countries, they're all like, let's trade knowledge. Let's grow this bitch. And they're like, uh-uh, motherfucker. We got a different plan.

Right. What the fuck? Look what the fuck they did to the Jews. My God. I've been studying World War II, right? Shout out. Shout out. That's how you tell he's old.

No, I missed that same school. I'm not counting that I missed school. I wasn't there. Fuck school. But, um, my God, man. Three. Fuck white people. Okay.

Let's stay on topic. Anyway, what you do, you did it, man. Fuck white people, man. For real. Seriously, man. For real. Seriously, man. My brother made me read Malcolm X's book when I was 15. Only fucking... The autobiography of Malcolm X?

Yeah, of course. Yeah, I read that too. My brother made me read that when I was 15. You know, halfway through the motherfucker, I was like, white people are the devil. It's fucking screw. I bought it. If the nation of Islam believes that you can fuck it, that the evil scientists created the white gene, right? And we're like, what the fuck is that?

Right? While we're over here. Oh, Noah built a boat and went and caught it. Do I have a animal on the planet? How the fuck? We're supposed to believe that? That's what really happening. That shit you talking about is ridiculous.

What the fuck? I'm into this. What the fuck? What the fuck, right? So. And that right there, that's why there's no streetlights in Detroit. Just so you know. No, man, I hate white people.

I'm not going to lie, man. I'm so, I'm so, you know, I think part of the reason we fucking paint our faces is because we want to be identified as white. We'd rather be identified as a clown. Seriously, man.

Seriously. Hip hop, you know, when we came out, you had Vanilla Ice, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, Third Bass. Vanilla Ice gave us a fake number. Third Bass was dope when they came out. Third Bass was dope, yeah. But then I heard you say, fuck the Beastie Boys. Man, third base. Fidel Ice gave us a fake number. Third base was dope when they came out.

Third base was dope, yeah. But then I heard you say, fuck the Beastie Boys. Man, let me ask you guys something. Why did you say, fuck the Beastie Boys? Because nobody said, fuck the Beastie Boys. Yeah, you were saying, fuck everybody. Fuck everything. That's what I'm saying.

One time. Hold on, hold on. Let's stay focused for one second. Did you guys know that you said Clown Posse was a Def Jam artist? Yeah, we were on Def Jam. See, let's talk about that. Rick Rubin? No.

Leo Cole? Yeah, he screamed at me, man. Yeah, he shook a golf pointer at us. Amazing sass. You would have never known you guys had that in common. He screamed at me every Saturday. We were on... I love Leo Cole.

We were on I was like, You think you're some thugs, motherfuckers? Shut that door! You know what I'm saying? I'm coming in here! Wait, hold on. We were on Island Records. Island Records, and they merged with Def Jam.

See, when we were on Island Records, we didn't have an A&R. We just worked directly with the president. You know what I'm saying? So when they merged with Def Jam, they shit-canned the president. His name was Humana. They shit-canned him. It was like early 90s? No, this was the end of the 90s.

I can't remember. And then we saw all of a sudden, we walked in and my motherfuckers were like, what is this? How weird is this bitch? Shut up. We haven't told you the story. Let me tell you guys the story.

Wait, Lior said that to you guys? No, no. No. Listen, step down my shit, no. No, the fence. Stand up and shit. Listen, um. Stepped on my shit, but it's okay. One person needs to say that.

It was Halloween. Joey took personal offense to that. What? The guy up in Def Jam that was like, you know we were on Jive and shit? Jive too? That's the first one. Yeah, you were on Jive in the beginning. We signed a Jive in 95.

They were like, nah, y'all ain't Jive Records. Y'all are Battery. We're the company. Battery. Battery was their studio. You know who else was on Battery Records? Cotton Eye Joe.

Cotton Eye Joe. Cotton Eye Joe. That was our family. Something like that. I need my heart to stay. They stuck us on High Night Joe. They stuck us on Battery Records. You need to get on me at his level. I'm on his level.

Whatever level he keep going, I'm there with him. Please, Jamie, give me another one. Where is this shit? So, all right. Let's take it to Def Jam. Jive before Def Jam, right? Jive in 95. 95 was Jive.

If I, let me. E-40 was on there at that time. Everybody was on there. Jive Too Short was on there. Too Short, yeah. Jive was an old record label. Who's naked? Fucking keep moving.

Fuck everybody. That shit, man. Jive was fucking. Come on, man. They were the beast back in the day. But how did, all right, so how do you transition from Jive to Defconn? Hold on, hold on, hold on. There's a lot of shit in between.

Go a little bit before that, because how do you get signed from where you're at, back home, to Jive? I want to tell you, I want to tell you. He just fucking press flyers up, bro, and fucking, we used to love the weekends because all the bars would be full. We lived all fucking every day. That's all we did, man. One time I fucking put flyers all up in hardballs, covered all the parking lots.

This motherfucker was like security came out. My God, this motherfucker looked like Bob Sapp. I like Bob Sapp. Who the fuck is like Bob Sapp. I like Bob Sapp. Who the fuck is Bob Sapp? Not a lot of Bob Sapp. They have the same. The fuck are you doing? Me and you are right here.

So this motherfucker was like, no, you can't put no flyers on you. Let's force a show. Take them all down, right? I was like, came back. He punched me in the fucking, look at my nose, bro. I'm looking.

It's broke. That must have stilted his day. Look at his cookie. Not really. You got a nice nose, man. Every day I look in the mirror, I'm like, I must be going this way. But knocked me the fuck out. I don't know why, but anyway, fuck that story.

How you got the deal with John? Point being. That's all we did, right? The hustle was immaculate. You ever heard of Eshaan? Eshaan the Unholy? Yeah, yeah. Detroit legend?

Yeah. This motherfucker rapped about the devil, right? I like the devil. Seriously. Like on some hardcore shit. This motherfucker rapped about the devil, right? Didn't he have a crazy logo for his? Yeah, the devil. Seriously? Like on some hardcore shit. This motherfucker rapped about the devil, right? And, man, I used to bump his shit in my bedroom. Didn't he have, like, a crazy, like, logo for his?

Yeah, the devil. Real life, yeah. You know what I'm saying? This motherfucker, I used to bump his shit in the fucking sky turn red. Okay? He was a Detroit fucking legend. Fucking pressing up his own cassettes and fucking making the fuck school. Making himself fucking

a millionaire, right? With this horror shit. Had all the kids in the suburbs like, oh my god. Had everybody in the city like, he can't really be... He's a devil worshipper. Everybody in the suburbs was like, yes! The white devil.

They connected with the inner devil. Fucking white bitches. Anyway, me too, devil. All right. Fucking white bitches. So anyway, me too, though. I was like, I'm going to be hit, dude. Right. So anyway, he became, you know, he was doing the devil, right? It was terrifying. Come out on stage in a coffin with glowing dark 666 on his shirt,

cut the lights out. He was the fucking man, right? And his music was unbelievable. Anyway, we were so influenced by that, we were like, what are we? You get what I'm saying? Kid Rock was driving a fucking tractor around Detroit, rapping with a fucking cowboy hat on. We looked at this shit like it's characters. I like Kid Rock.

And he was on Johnny too, right? It's a gimmick, you know. But the whole thing is his. Wait, wait, tell me, what did you say? You said Kid Rock is a gimmick? To us, hip-hop in Detroit? Yeah, he's not a gimmick now. He's always been what he is now.

But you're saying back then. In the early 90s, it was Isham, Kid Rock, and us. We were the three rap groups in Detroit that were making the noise. Kid Rock was just strictly rap back then. There was no country shit. So he wasn't considered country? Not at all. Fuck.

No, not at all. He was outside of here. He was outside of here. Fuck Kid Rock. Well, Kid Rock, so you guys didn't get along with Kid Rock? Nah, fuck him. He's a bigot, bro. He's a piece of shit, man.

Real piece of shit. A black girlfriend was like, don't ever trust anybody black in this business. I don't give a fuck what anybody says. Kid Rock with his black girlfriend said that to you? Yes. We were like, you know what I'm saying, you white devil bitch. Anyway, fuck him. The story is, the story is, we grew into giants.

I wasn't ready. I was like Jeff Fenster. I love y'all. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. But was like Jeff Fenster. I love y'all. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. I thought I was going to be on here. By the way. I thought I was going to be on here.

He moved me the fuck up. Immediately. Immediately I am up. No, you got to sit back. It don't count. Of course. So Kid Rock had a black girlfriend and- Kids too.

Yeah. And black. Yeah. But he was like, she was just sitting there fuck is going on so um you schooling me yeah man we kid rock and isham were way ahead of us so we paid them both five of the bucks to rap on our shit that made a chain called harmony and the craziest thing that's back in the day motherfuckers weren't doing features on records like they are now you know what i'm saying were like, yo, who the fuck is selling records in the city?

And it was Isham and Kid Rock. So we chipped them both off. Back when cassettes, you know what I'm saying? We themed both sides of our cassettes. It'd be an intro on each side. I want to just establish what you just said. Okay. So you paid Kid Rock $500?

Back then, that might have been a million. That's a lot of money back then. Yeah, no doubt. No, no, no. I just want to establish. That shit was guerrilla, man. I know our fans, and I know how this is going to establish. They're going to point this.

How are you doing? They're going to point this as. Where's the weed at, man? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on. Of course. Let's go. He got the.

That's Diego. You smoking that Diego right there. That's my friend right there. One of my best friends right there. I'm looking forward to it. Yes. So, Kid Rock, Yopay, Kid Rock, $500. Five big ones.

Yo. Punk ass motherfucker. Damn. Well, get back on topic, though. So, you paid them? Yeah, man. So you paid them? Yeah, man. So we start getting mad fucking.

We were only in Detroit, Michigan. So we were like, fuck that. We're going to get their fans. You know what I'm saying? On top of the hustle we were doing. Every day, we hit every record store in Michigan. Were you guys already ICP? Was it already the whole brand was established? Yeah, all that.

Yeah. Back then, when we first started, it was Inner City Posse. But then when we first put out that record That's when it was insane clown posse carl carter's was a so so we Jive come calling Jeff answer and he's like he didn't just come calling We saw we sold so many fucking records in Detroit. It was like something like 60 80 thousand records just in Detroit independent You don't see my fucking we can figure it out We on a major label and then finally jive called us with like some whole way by the way everybody everybody over here please can

y'all tune in because I'm being honest as an artist I don't know this story I mean this I know the story but when anybody talks about independence they say look at I see peace I know you're not an independent guy you always talking about you like majors but I know I'm amazed what it depends upon with the would me if I would have had your knowledge of the independency right maybe I would have been that's the way we know what he is so how did how did how does this happen? So eventually,

we got an entertainment lawyer and he shopped our shit and Jive was like, oh, what's up? You know what I'm saying? And then they gave us some whole ass deal, you know, beginner deal.

Yeah, please, please. Take your time. So Jeff Fannister, motherfucker, can you see this on Holla Wicked? Peeled his wig off so motherfucking bad

all that was left was his jawbone hanging off his neck okay all right this motherfucker so we signed for sixty thousand dollars right dang you shit all they did was put it out the next record and wait for it to sell i swear they just gave it to distributors they didn't even distribute like they self you guys like we took that people think it's shelving. I wouldn't say shelved. They just had nothing.

There was absolutely nothing behind it. You might as well get the movement in Detroit. We're going to put it out and get that money. Right. They just wanted to get that 60 grand. They gave us 60 grand in Detroit. In the Midwest area? We're going to put that.

I'm sorry, though. Not even Midwest, really. Just Michigan. Just Michigan. They thought, we'll just make this easy money. We're not going to try to promote it to the rest of the country. They were like, we don't believe in this shit, but you might asers got some regional shit going on over there that we're going to just take. And we were like, uh-huh.

You know what I'm saying? They put it out. They didn't do no effort, no effort. That's some gangster shit from the label side. That's crazy. No doubt. Yeah. It's Jive.

You know what I'm saying? I appreciate it, too. Tell me one more thing about Jive, besides the Backstreet Boys. You know what I'm saying? Nope. Everybody on fuck Jive. We took that 60K, though. Nobody got a good story on Jive.

But we took that 60K. We bought three fat-ass fucking vans with rims and shit. We painted the fucking riddle box on the side. I mean, we wrapped them. I mean, they could wrap back then. We used to wrap our semis and all that fucking shit. And then some straight-up no-shit type shit. Right.

Fucking blindfolded through a dart at America. We took those fucking three vans, right? Three darts. Bam, bam, bam. We packed We took those fucking three vans, right? Three darts. Bam, bam, bam. We packed them full of fucking samplers, right? We used to fucking, okay, here's what we did. We were like, we're going to prove to these bitch-ass motherfuckers.

I'm so used to using that old word when I was a kid, you know what I'm saying? Don't use it. No, of course not. I don't feel that way. It was never meant about somebody gay. It was just meant as an idiot. I can't say it in my house. We're slowly like working our way out of our vocabulary.

I love gay people like I love myself, bro. Anyway, man. Yo, so we took darts and blindfolded. Like literally darts? Literal darts and threw them at a fucking map of America. That's where you were going to go next. So one of them hit Dallas. We're going to prove to you, bitch-ass motherfuckers, we can blow up Detroit anywhere.

With the right word put behind it. We hit Dallas on the mark. This is so hard. We took that 60K, packed those fucking vans full of samplers, went there every day we were at fucking a different high school. We had to let out with fucking samplers.

You know what I'm saying? Same tactic we applied in Detroit we applied to Dallas right they're just the ground-up flyers samplers hitting the record stores doing whatever we go in the record store and Dallas they wouldn't have our shit in there we like yo where's our shit you know sir to my place up until they fucking ordered that shit shows the Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day.

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So Jive was like, okay, we're doing another record, right? We were like, fuck y'all. You know what I'm saying? We want out. They came out with this we had this song called Chicken Huntin' Alright and then they were like

Okay we're going to shoot you a video for it This fucking video they shot Man fuck that video It was like a VHS That's how city it was We got so much to go I got broke down properly That shit was wearing a fucking paint

But yo straight up the fucking guy that directed the video, he was like a motorcycle guy, right? So all of a sudden we got like motorcycle gangs in our video and shit. And we didn't know. We were kids. We didn't know. We're like, okay, I guess we got motorcycles in our shit. You know what I'm saying? Yo, straight the fuck up.

Fuck y'all. And we saw that shit. Our jaws hit the motherfucking floor. We were like, what is this shit? We were like, uh-uh. you ain't coming out with that shit. Straight up. We bossed up on them at that point. We were like, that shit is not.

And it looked straight up like they did it on one of those big ass old school VHS cameras. You know what I'm saying? This motherfucking bombastic. Y'all recording and shelving. So there was just a standoff, right? How old are you guys at this time? I think I was like 21 maybe, 20, 21. Man, I don't even age, brah.

I should have started going backwards about seven years ago. Anyway, man. So, these motherfuckers. So, guess who called? Chris Lighty? No. Walt Disney, motherfucker. Walt Disney?

Yeah. We're like, what what that's some wild ass straight up they were like they were like what am i going to buy your shit off off uh jive okay you want to buy a contract i swear to god i'm going way too fast i swear to god i'm gonna blow your fucking minds all right let's blow our minds. So I managed it at the time. He was like, look, we got this on the table. And we're like, hey, man, that's fucking Disney. You know what I'm saying? That's insane.

You know what we do, right? You're still going too fast. Hold on. All right, so hold on. We were at Stan's still with John. We were at Stanstill with Jive. We weren't giving him no more shit. And then Walt Disney calls.

Yeah, man. I imagine if we hung up on you, that motherfucker kicked out the grave with the phone. We were like, so check it out. So Mickey calls you guys. Yeah, himself. He was like, hey! We were like, fucking clown, put the fucking press on. He was like, hey! We were like, fucking clown, put the fucking press on.

He was like, clown, clown, clown, clown. Who was it? Michael Eisen. At the time, right. So he called me himself out to fuck him. Anyway,

so, I didn't even know what to think. Good dumb joke. Flopping nothing right now. They call and they're like, we're going to buy you all my fuckers off Jive, right?

And we're going to fucking put you out on Hollywood Records. And we're like, fuck y'all clowns. And they're like, no, you don't understand, man. We own everything, motherfucker. We put out all kind of fuck shit.

They're like, Disney owns Merrimack's film, which puts out Jason and Freddie and shit, you know what I'm saying? So Disney owns that shit. And that's a tie in the movie, kids. And that's when they started buying everything up. With the dead.

Giving each other age and shit. The thing is, in the movie, you know what I'm saying? We're like, what the fuck? They put all that shit out. They were like this. They were like, look, man, we're Hollywood records. We're owned by Disney, but we're our own shit. You know what I'm saying?

Disney puts the money, but we like all these bands on our shit. We're not Disney friendly. We're just owned by them motherfuckers, you know? Which makes sense. And we're like, all right. You know what I'm saying? You're going to buy shit, and they want to throw stupid money at us. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, man. And we're like, bet. Let's go, you know? So, of course, Jive had to get the override on it. You know what I'm saying? But they fucking, they're like, so we put, they put fucking Slash on the motherfucker? Yeah. For a bunch of roses, Slash. They put fucking Alex Cooper on the motherfucker.

On what? I don't know what I saw. I was playing guitar on one of those shits. Get the fuck out of here. I'm licking them strings. Alex Cooper, that old motherfucker. Alex Cooper's on the record? Yeah, he does the intro.

This is crazy. You know what I'm saying? All types of shit. Fucking Steve Dix from the Sex Pistols and shit. So we got this bomb ass record put it out and they're like oh man you can't say all this shit yeah we're like what they put it the disney censoring shit so we turned it in they highlighted all the lyrics and they're like you can't say that excuse me guys so so. So we fucking put that motherfucker, I mean, we went and we did this shit with fresher shit more deadly.

Right. I swear to God. We replaced all the shit they wanted to replace because we might have been talking about murking somebody in a specific way. They're like, you can't say that. So we just fucking slanged it up more so they didn't understand what we were saying. But made it ten times worse. They said, you can't say you took the sword off and blow his head off.

So we said, I took the bucket and blew his head off. And they're like, cool. And the funny thing was, the funny thing was half the shit we didn't even change. We were like, nah, that's too fresh. They didn't even notice. We were like, nah, that's too fresh. They didn't even notice. Fucking apes. So that record came out.

So yeah, they came out with that. The day the record dropped, we were doing a, remember back in the day, you used to do in-store appearances before meeting? That's how we met. That's how we met. You know shit. And we used to do in-store appearances, and we'd do them for, they'd be like fucking eight, nine hours long. You know shit. And we used to do, we used to do in-store appearances and we'd do them for, they'd be like fucking

eight, nine hours long. You know what I'm saying? Because we couldn't stop until everybody was done. Otherwise a riot would break out, you know? And so we're in there doing this shit

and we're in there for like a couple hours and all of a sudden the local distribution guy, he comes through and he's like, yo, you need to take a break. I got to talk to you

in the back room right quick. You know what I'm saying? To you? He said it to you. Yeah, pull us out the meet and greets. Pull us in the Weezer. Or the fucking in-store, whatever the fuck. Weezer, sweet ass maze. So we go in the stock room or whatever.

He's like, yo, I got some bad news. I got some bad, bad news. We're like, what up? He's like, Disney just pulled your shit out of stores. No, they said this fucking wrecking you in the store from Owen is done. Yeah. It was the first day. We wereing you in the store from Owen is done. Yeah. It was the first day

we were supposed to do like a... It was a midnight sale that we were going to meet you for. So anyway, the point was, we fucking,

me and him drove down to Virginia Beach to fuck... He just fucking jumped ahead. Murder Beach? Murder Beach? Virginia Beach.

No, Murder Beach. No, we never got there. It doesn't matter. Anyway, so our manager calls and he's like, check it out, man. Hold on, hold on, hold on, man. You're fucking, you're already in Myrtle Beach, man. We need to back up. That's what I'm saying.

He already got his bathing suit on. What the fuck? No, for real. That's what I'm saying. No. So anyway, so we're at the thing and we're like, what the fuck? So our world collapsed right then. You know what I'm saying?

All of a sudden, fucking Hollywood Records, they pulled the record out of every single fucking store that it already made it to. Disney did. We called this shit. Disney did it. You know what I'm saying? And then we had an office in a warehouse and shit. You know what I'm saying? And we're just like, this is it, man.

We're done. Where do you go from here? They still own us. They pulled our record out. There's nothing we can do. So we were like, this is it, man. We're done. Where do you go from here? They still own us. They pulled our record out. There's nothing we can do. So we were like, fuck it. Me, him, and our homie Billy, we jumped in the fucking whip. And we were just like, fuck it.

We're just going to drive to fucking Myrtle Beach. You know what I'm saying? Just marinate on the beach for a couple days. Kenny Power shit. Just fucking sort out our brains. You know what I'm saying? Right. And we got about four hours out of town.

And our manager hit us up. He's like, yo, where you guys at? We're like, I don't know, somewhere's like, yo, where you guys at? We're like, I don't know, somewhere in Ohio. I know where you're at, pussy. Right.

And then he's like, turn the fuck around right now. The fucking alternative press just got a hold of the story. No, that's not true, Joey. What's true then? The motherfucker called whatever press, the LA...

Oh, yeah, our guy called the fucking press or whatever the fuck. LA fucking... He leaked it to the press. The big paper. Alternative press, yeah our guy called the fucking press or whatever the fat lady linked it to the L.A. Times or whatever for some impressive rep is a fucking alternative magazine You get it in the month Associated that's what the fuck goes out to everybody right? So the Associated Press got wind of it, and that shit just was every fucking word. So all the news stations, every fucking news station all of a sudden was at our warehouse covering a fucking story.

Talking about Disney trying to hide. What? Were they covering it as like a censorship type of story? They were trying to sweep us under the rug because what happened was Southern Baptists, you know what I'm saying? They're fucking huge. They're not Disney having gay day or whatever. Right, so it's like

the big Southern Baptist motherfuckers. It's like the biggest fucking church shit, you know what I'm saying? The biggest church shit, the Bible Belt. Yeah, all that shit.

Very politically involved. They were protesting Disney. They were behind this shit. They started protesting Disney because Disney, some shit, they were hiring gay people. And they were having that shit that Southern Baptists did. No, it was gay day at Disney Disney, some shit, they were hiring gay people. And they weren't having that shit, the Southern Baptists.

No, it was Gay Day at Disney. Or some shit, but they were inviting gays into Disney, some shit. And the Southern Baptist motherfuckers were like, we're boycotting the fuck out of Disney. Put a microscope on them motherfuckers. What else they got? Disney was like, oh shit, we got ICP. Get rid of those motherfuckers. They don't care how much they got.

They don't give a fuck, you know what I'm saying? They got billions upon billions upon hundreds of millions of billions. They're like, fuck them, you know what I'm saying? And we're like, oh, so we're just a casualty of that shit. Somehow the gay people at the fucking Disney World, somehow we got fucking cut off. Susses, anyway, man, that shit is depressed, right?

Bidding war. Yeah, bidding war, I got a funny story for you, man. I'm ready big thing war. Yeah bidding war. I got a story for you, man We're bouncing back between LA and New York Fucking Leo call everybody Everybody kids right on the desk having Wrestlemania in the middle of the fucking meeting. Right. He said, I had to come into the office. He's talking about, I'll put

anybody on your record, Dr. Dre, whatever, you know, and he's like, he's like, 400k, right? While I'm talking about a hundred, whatever, a million plus a hundred thousand, whatever fuck that is. One million, one thousand.

And we're like, huh? He's like, yeah, but we got fucking dead real and on it. This is Jimmy Iovine talking. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, we know how to do the wicked shit, motherfucker, you know? And I've always wondered about that. You know, if we would have took that deal, what the fuck would have happened because he was a fucking gorilla right and the problem we've always

found with major labels is nobody fucking knows how to market us you know what i'm saying because we're too rock for rock right you know what i'm saying they're like what the fuck do we do with this they don't know who to fucking market it to they don't know how to market it you know what i'm saying so we always got to take the reins. That's why we never had A&Rs and shit like that, because we are the only ones that knew how to fucking market our shit. Right. What's up, man? Because we are used to doing this shit since 1990.

Right. So the bidding war happens. Island obviously wins. Island won out. Yeah. Yeah, right. The thing is, they still didn't even fucking win. They still had to buy the shit out from fucking Disney.

Man, that dude. They made us start us nine to close this shit. The first thing we did was talk about this shit. We were like, nine to close these nuts. You know what I'm saying? He was such a fucking angel, man. He gave us that money. He was like, no videos.

Ain't nobody getting on his. Ain't nobody spinning your shit. What the fuck? You know what I'm saying? This is the executive island. Yeah, no videos. Ain't nobody young. Ain't nobody spinning your shit. What the fuck? You know what I'm saying? This is the executive island. Yeah, Highland. It's Monty Litman. Monty Litman?

Monty Litman? Monty Litman? Monty Litman? Yeah, he was the president of Highland. Monty Litman? No, not Monty. Humon. Humon.

Humon something. I don't know. Humon something. I don't fucking know. I don't remember. He was the president, but he was like- He looked mad comfortable all the time wearing like linen hookups

and shit you know what I'm saying y'all ain't got no fucking you want singles for what you know ain't nobody spending that shit and he was like we'll give you

you know what you want to do and we were like man let's take that money I mean let's take all that video money and make a movie you know what I'm saying

so they give us a million dollars to make a fucking movie instead of videos we made a fresh movie it to make a fucking movie instead of videos. We made a fresh-ass movie. It's like a fucking... We'll take this shit. It's like an iconic thing

in the jungle. Yeah, so we made a movie called Big Money Hustlers. Hey. And we were so... We had Dolomite in that bitch. Fuck everything. Woody Ray Moore.

We had Rewind. We had Rewind, man. We had fucking Gang of Motherfuckers, man. But it's like the 70s. Wait, wait. You had Dolomite in that movie? Yeah. Back in the day, we were white clowns. We had fucking Gang them all fucking man But it's like It's like the 70s Wait wait You had all of my shit? Yeah

Back in the day White clowns We were infatuated With like the fucking Hood movies that were coming out You know what I'm saying Especially like the fucking ones That are on like video cameras

That's the wrong term Not so much like the Massive P ones Right You probably remember The Max shit and all that You know What do they call those movies?

It's called Black Esportation Yeah Black Esportation Black Esportation. Yeah, Black Esportation. Black Esportation. We did like a thing with Big Money Hustlers. Big Money Hustlers. Ooh, this shit, man. But so we are really fucking, the movie that we were just like, we had our full rotation.

It was Big Ballers. Of course. It was about to happen on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Remember the movie they came out with? Yeah, yeah. There's a scene in it.

There's a scene where the dude's hitting a joint and he's getting his dick sucked. A bitch is sucking his dick. He's like, you want to hit the joint? You want to hit the joint? She starts sucking his dick. She was sucking his dick for real in that movie. It was not fucking fake.

You can buy this movie at fucking Suncoast Videos back in the day. You know what I'm saying? It was fucking awesome. To this day, man, it's bound to happen. That's my jam. It wasn't those pornos. I was against the flow.

We were so tooken back by that fucking movie, we were like, we got to make a fucking movie like this. You know what I'm saying? But make it like, don't be a menace style. You know what I'm saying? Just a total spoof off this shit. You know what I'm saying? And so we did that shit.

You know what I'm saying? It's funny as shit. I just want to stop the interview for one second and just say, I love it. I'll see people. Thank you, man. I'll see you. Thank you, man. Let's be honest. You know why? You know why?

You know, I'm a fan of your guys from watching you guys. But from seeing you guys naturally, it's so much better. And all I want to do is, I want to tell you, our show is about giving people their flowers, giving people their love while they're there. And we will be remorse to not give y'all your flowers right now. Oh, my God. You, man, I'm about to start crying in this bitch for real. I wish y'all not to make me cry, man.

No, no. But let me just tell y'all something. You know why? And then, because my next question is going to be crazy. But what I'm saying is, you know, y'all are hip hop. I hate it when a person say, yeah, y'all guys are nice. Or y'all guys are great. And then they equivocate the white.

I don't like it. Because I'm Puerto Rican. And a lot of times they do that to me. They'll say, he's nice for a Puerto Rican. You guys. Equivocate. I'm making it worse. I understand what you're saying, though.

That's crazy. That shit's in my dictionary. Man, don't fuck around and make this the best experience of my life. But let me just say something. No, no, let me just say it. Because

you guys created a lane for hip hop that is y'all lane. What is it? The Juggalo? Juggalo. The Juggalo. Juggalo. I'm a Juggalo. I don't got a tattoo.

I don't got a painting. I'm a Juggalo. I don't got a tattoo. I don't got a painting. I'm a Juggalo. What? You don't need all that shit. Don't make me cry, man. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You got some gangsta shit. No, no, no.

But, but, but. Let me, no, no, no. You can have gangsta tears, man. You can have some gangsta tears. Let me just tell you something. Let me just tell you something let me just tell you something we had tech

not here shut up tech man that's the homie and we had numerous people after that and all of them equivocate

I'm sorry maybe I made that word up too to y'all they say we all identify with ICP.

ICP, you know, made it. It was a blueprint. You guys created a blueprint. It was a blueprint where, like, we own it. And to me, that's so beautiful. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's so beautiful. It's so beautiful that.

Hey, man. What's up? What's up out here that he's whispering again man yeah no and then hold up hold up before and i want to add something because i've been that's all i've been to a couple of the gatherings because i managed mayday that was signed yeah the strange still still works strange and i went to to two gatherings you've been to the gathering yeah oh shit i talked about it on the show a couple times. Oh, shit. My mind just downloaded what you said. I went when Mayday did the small stage and then I went when they

performed on the big stage with Tech and Ric Flair was the host. Oh, yeah. He walked out. He walked out. He walked out. He was pissed.

He was pissed. Everybody started shouting. I didn't think he got a woo. Nothing. I was just wondering what I want to say about the gathering. You even have Ric Flair out here, man. I'm just wearing a Ric Flair shirt. What I want to say about the gathering. You even have Ric Flair out here, man.

Yeah, I do. One thing that I took away from that, and from your guys' movement, I mean, look, it's wild. I would say if you can, if anybody can make it to the gathering, it's an experience that everybody should witness for themselves.

Yeah, it's a shame, man. It's something. I'm going to take ecstasy again. No, you can take everything there. Oh, yeah. I'm going to take ecstasy again, and my wife cleared me, I said. Oh, you can take everything there. Oh, yeah. I'm going to take XTC again, and my wife cleared me, I said. Oh, you can do it again?

Yeah, yeah. Only time I'm going to take XTC again. What I took away from the gathering, and this isn't giving you all this homage that I walked away with, is seeing the acts that you guys were booking there, and then starting to look at the other acts that you had booked there. Everybody makes fun of them. But let me explain for anybody who doesn't understand like you were booking artists that at that time probably weren't gigging that much they weren't doing a lot of

shows no and it showed it showed how much you cared about everybody everybody that we book are like heroes of ours yeah like you had and i don't want to say they weren't popping at that point or whatever but you were booking some top tier hip-hop artists everybody you know i'm saying and they were there and they were doing the shows and I was like, man, these guys are putting money in these guys' pockets in this interim

while they're doing what you call hip hop purgatory. That's a thing that we call it here. Yeah, no, no doubt. And I thought that was dope and it showed me

how much you guys care about hip hop, the culture and I walked away from like, yeah, these guys are legit. Born and raised on it, man. Let me tell you something, man. And we'll talk about The Gathering more because that's a whole other thing.

A successful musician's career is like a banana. Uh-oh. Here we go. I'm worried about this banana. Knowledge. No, I'm going to screw you, dog. They come out, they hot as fuck. You know what I'm saying?

Bananas? No, listen, man. They come out, they hot as fuck. You know what I'm saying? Bananas? No, listen, man. They come out, they hot as fuck, right? Suddenly they played out dang shit, right? As the years go by, right? Then they

come back up, bro. And they legendary all of a sudden. You're fucking around getting hypnotized. Look at these motherfuckers out in Europe getting money. Of course, yeah. See what I'm saying? See, but nowadays, though, it's like all these old school motherfuckers can go back on the road again. It's popping again. Right.

You know what I'm saying? It's like, you know, people on this show always say, like you always say, and you always say, you know what I'm saying? It's like these old ass rock and roll motherfuckers selling out arenas. Right. Never stopped. You know what I'm saying? It shouldn't be any different for him. But when you get old and rap, all of a sudden

you just fall off. But the shit bounced back now. It's like old school motherfuckers are now selling out arenas. What you guys did with the gathering and people like yourself is what helps keep those people afloat while they're waiting for that. That's what I'm saying, bro. That was my point about the fucking

banana. I thought you were going to make platanos. Check it out when they all rot down there. Listen, man, when they all rot down there, that, you know... You got to stop doing this. That curvature, bro. They go, fuck, they suffer for a minute, and then they come back ripe and hard again at the end. Check it out.

Hard bananas. Listen, man. When they suffering like that, right? Some of them fucking rotten. You know, whatever they going through. You know what I'm saying? Juggle those out there to comfort them at that moment, bro. That's where they

Yeah, straight up, man. You know what I'm saying? Because we one of them, man. We suffer too. We ain't shit but clowns out here. You know what I'm saying, bro look let's talk about the fbi bro can it hold on hold on before you before you don't know about us hold up hold up hold up hold up hold up hold up hold up i just want to say before we jump into that because that's a whole fucking that's a whole because that's a whole fucking thing right there. Hold on, hold on. Can I ask you something for real? Jesus Christ.

Let me finish this before I cry. Listen, if we don't finish, you know, I'm saying whatever our story and all that. We have this mic, bro, so we can finish it and explain it. We won't finish it. You know what I'm saying? I know. Yo, go ahead. That's what I'm saying.

As long as we're free to do that. Sure, I'll be honest. Let's go, man. By the way, hold on, hold on. Let me say one thing. This is your house. What you ever

fucking feel like. You gotta rush what we're doing right here, right now. This is your house because you know why? It's our house. Hell yeah. Oite. I don't know what you said, but yeah.

That's what we say in Latino. No, I'm fine. We say it in Latino, oite. Oite. Which means, fuck a listen to me. I know, I fucking butchered that. And I just want ICP to know that you don't have to rush any fucking thing y'all doing right now. We got y'all.

We love y'all. And guess what? You are in your motherfucking... You are in your motherfucking... You are in your motherfucking... Hold I want to see. Oh, no, no, no. Joey, you should be some kind of customer. I'm trying to get my driver's license back. I can't be fucking around. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Because if I was in the West Coast, if I was in the West Coast, I would do something like

this. But look, look, you are in your fucking house. So, make sure you. Thank you, man. You are in your house. And by the way, continue to say whatever the fuck. You can say whatever you want. I want to say this, man.

This shit right here, this shit right here, right? Yes. To me, this, there's nothing higher than this. You know what I'm saying? The rest, straight up. If you're involved in hip hop, I don't give a fuck. Grammy, I don't care. You know what I'm saying?

Who gives a fuck? You know what I'm saying? Well, Pax, I don't give a fuck a Grammy. I don't care. You know what I'm saying? Who gives a fuck? You know what I'm saying? Well, probably because I ain't got one, but no, seriously, man, fucking any award in hip-hop ain't shit compared to this because you motherfuckers are hip-hop. You know what I'm saying? Born and bred. That's all you do. You know what I'm saying? All we do.

So to get this from you guys right here, you know, it's fucking beyond flattened. Beyond flattened. Now, to get this from you guys right here, you know, it's fucking beyond beyond flattering. Beyond flattering. Now, yeah. Fuck y'all, man. But I'm going to act.

I'm going to act. Because one of the things I've always been thrown off. I've always been thrown off. I can always been thrown off. I can't make this make sense. Y'all problem with Eminem. I can't make it make sense.

We don't got one no more. That's old. That's like if you have beef with somebody in high school and right now you see them. You know what I'm saying? That shit happened in 1999 to like 2001. What year is it? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's like, that shit happened in 1999 to like 2001. What year is it?

You know what I'm saying? But can we talk about it? All that shit. Can we talk about it? Of course. Can we get into this discussion? Of course, man. There are gods among us, bro.

Because Detroit, I felt like all of y'all should be together. Detroit, it ain't like that, though. No. Everybody hates each other, man. Everybody hates each other. My whole career's been about like a kung fu movie with other artists, though. No. Everybody hates each other, man. Everybody hates each other.

Man, I hope career's been about like a kung fu movie with other artists, man. I like kung fu movies. Okay. Huh? I like kung fu movies. Man, I... I'll be trying to kick people. All right.

I'm right there with you, bro. All right, but all seriousness, like, because we didn't see you. Like, what the fuck happened didn't see, like, what the fuck happened? I'll tell you, man. What happened was, and this, this was young in his career,

you know what I'm saying? This is, this is like, right when he started popping. We were only in Detroit, right? I'm going to keep it real, man. We were only,

I mean, we were killing it, right? This motherfucker, I love him, you know. This is when he had the Infinite Album or before,

even before that. This is, this is way pre-Dre he had the Infinite album or even before that? This is way pre-Dre. I don't know his career before Dre. The pre-Dre album is the Infinite, I think. I'm not sure. I don't know. Because you got to understand, before Dre, nobody knew Eminem in Detroit. Nobody did.

You know what I'm saying? He ran with the battle rappers and shit. They go to the hip-hop store. You know what I'm saying? They weren't putting out records and selling them. There's two ways to come up in Detroit. One was how we did it, which was pressing your own shit up, doing consignment. My people shit, getting money.

Fucking out there grinding to fucking Sunrise. But they were thinking about the bigger picture. They're like, man, I'm about to get signed. Right. So they're out there shopping themselves, going all these, like, traveling around, going to freestyle battles, trying to keep in notice. Battling each other, battling each other,

fucking killing it. We ain't fresh like that, man. And there was no fucking right way. That's just not the way we took. Man, it takes me a week to write a song. Quit playing. Right. Hey, I'll tell you something, man.

Fucking MJG, man, the fucking eight ball on MJG. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking MJG had the best line ever in rap. He said, freestyles ain't great, but give me a minute. I'll write down some shit to give me a gold record. You know what I'm saying? It's fucking ill as shit. Man, I'm good at it.

I'm freestyling, man. I'm freestyling. But yeah, that's the two ways. And we took the long route. You know what I'm saying? We hiked up the back of the mountain. You know what I'm saying? We didn't take the ski lift.

You know what I mean? So anyway, man, what happened was we we man we we were downtown at saint andrews hall and um we're we're chilling and um this kid comes up to us and he's like hey man check out this flyer you know i'm saying i got a wreck coming out and um this is marsha huh yes of course Marshall Mathers and he's like um man

I look at the we look at the fly it's still floating around to this day it's funny well you know what I I don't

you know I've been wanting to say this that ain't the fucking flyer we saw I can't tell you what the fucking flyer I couldn't tell you what we saw

there was three names on it ICPE Charmin Kid Rock yeah right like we were saying we were the big dogs fly i couldn't tell you what we saw there was three names on it icpe shaman kid rock yeah right like we were saying we were the big dogs that's how i remember it yeah right so anyway it said it's like a release you know my machine coming out and he was like it said uh special invited guests you know i'm saying it had our name with a question mark on it like who the fuck who you invited why you why you publicating that shit

you know what I'm saying that's us well you might be I'm inviting you right now that's us I don't know why are you excited you fucking

right invited me I don't know who you are yet why you publicating it anyway so we were like publicating

man basically fuck fuck you. So it was just like, yo, I don't want that. Right. You know what I'm saying? We were young, bro. I didn't know who this kid was. I was like, man, get the fuck out of here. I mean, you got to understand, we were like fucking famous in Detroit.

You know what I'm saying? We couldn't even go to the club. Which is why he would have used your name. Right, exactly. So somebody was using our name to get on. I wasn't disrespectful about it, but I was like, why you got my name on this shirt?

And his exact words were, I'm like you right now. You want to come? Not a bad response. We weren't disrespectful or violent or challenging. And we weren't like, there was no word.

No, we don't want to come, bro. He didn't say that. No, he didn't, but he took it to heart because my brother, rest in peace, the guy, my brother used to be

the third member of ICP. In the beginning, yeah. He, at this point, he was a DJ in Detroit, like just at the clubs and shit. You know, he wasn't like popping or nothing like that, but he was down by law with the guy Cheddar Bob or whatever the fuck from the movie.

I call him Drunk Bob. But he used to roll with him. My brother did. And he was a DJ, too. His DJ record is his name. And so I started fucking with Dre. And my brother got a super early release of a CD. Of course the shit started blowing up.

It was like 50 songs on that bitch. You know what I'm saying? It was so many songs that weren't even on none of the records and shit. You know what I'm saying? And then, so we peeped it out, you know, I'm like, Oh shit, my brother hooked me up to this. You know, let's peep it out. And he was dissing us on his fucking record. He's like, because of that shit. Fuck ITP by my CD. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. We were like, what the fuck? He's, he's dissing us on that shit. Because of that shit. Fuck ITP, buy my CD, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. We were like, what the fuck?

He's dissing us out of shit. We don't even know this motherfucking nothing, you know what I'm saying? So then, fast forward like a year, you know what I'm saying? He had what's that? I don't give a fuck out, I think it was. This was before even like my, right when my name was starting to take off. We had a radio show on a local Detroit radio station. Every Sunday night

of the first month. It was a two-hour show. We call it the Juggalo Show. We go in the studio and just make a two-hour block and they just play it. We made a parody and my name is called My Anus.

You never heard of My Anus, bro? That's what I meant. You never heard of My Anus. You never heard Slim Anus, bro? That's what I meant. You never heard Slim Anus? It was called My Anus. So instead of, hi, my name is. And it's just all about him being gay. My name is Slim Anus. The first shout I have from him is over there.

I don't know what the fuck that meant. But we were clout. We had a guy that could sound just like him. So we took little pieces out and shit. And we just had it like Eminem and Dre were gay. You know what I'm saying? Man, play it right quick do you got a way to do that i just want you at the beginning of it man this shit is funny so so anyhow so i want to hear it though come on man it's fucking funny shit so a week later hience Do you like a yes? Week later and he was in the same studio. He's at that radio station and the motherfuckers played the song for him They're like, yo, you got to hear this

Play this shit. You gotta peep this out. They were like They were like, well, I gotta show show here every first of the month. And this is what they played. Blah! He just dropped it right on his face. Right on his face. He was like, he started rapping the whole shit. Fuck I.T. people! Wait, they played it live on the air in space?

Yes. So that's what super set it off. He came out swinging. He was fucking mad. Fucking mad. Because you want to know something? Because listen, listen. And I don't know if he'll say this nowadays because, like I said, we're cool now.

You know, so everything's good. Like, rest in peace, Proof. I never met that motherfucker. Rest in peace, Proof. Rest in peace, Proof. I asked Proof. Proof squashed it off. I can see that, dude.

Proof put the squashing on it. But Eminem. Proof came to see y'all. Yes. He ended up breaking with y'all. He's a bad story, dude. Proof put the squash in on it. But Eminem. Proof came to see y'all. Yes. He ended up breaking with y'all. He's a nice story, man. Yeah. So Eminem was an ICP fan.

When we first heard. Back in the day. When we first heard My Name Is, we were like, this is just Detroit shit. It sounds like, yeah. Everybody's like, yo, this is the illest shit. We're like, he's just doing the same shit. All that shit about Kira's mom. We're like, we need the same thing. He. All that shit about Kira's mom. We're like, we need to hang back.

He's just doing shit. Y'all come from that. That's like, y'all's reference. That's the Tracy Esham. That's what we do. You know what I'm saying? They like to kill you. Bazaars.

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Oh my God. That was a piss him off when he got that shit. Yeah. Right on the air. He wanted a big campaign dissing us, you know what I'm saying

Out of shows and everything I saw him on Up and Smoke tour When he Yeah he could blow up dollars And shit I think he was shocked bro He was shocked He took it to heart

Yeah man But this shit got deep for real man And it sucked it got like that man This shit was real on the streets and shit You know what I'm saying It'd be on our site You know what I'm saying Like anybody seen anybody

It'd be on You know what I'm saying He Our homie Was at a At a One of those car It'd be on our site. You know what I'm saying? Like, anybody seen anybody, it'd be on. You know what I'm saying? Our homie was at one of those car audio installation places. And then Eminem pulled up to that bitch. And our homie was in our psychopathic records van. And he got all scared. And he pulled a gun out on his ass.

And Dougie. You know what I'm saying? Eminem pulled a gun. Yeah, yeah. He was like wild or something because that same night he pulled out some bouncer because his wife was fucking around in some club. And that's how he got pinched with it. And he had all those charges and shit.

You know what I'm saying? It was the same day he pulled the same fucking pistol out on our boy, you know what I'm saying? Word has it there was no bullets in it. Right. Well, let's get to the other end of it. So how did Proof connect with y'all through the record? That's my Proof, man.

Fuck that. He wasn't Eminem hype, man. What the fuck? Nah, Proof is a legend, bro. He was a beast. He's a fucking legend, man. That motherfucker in Detroit. Come on, man.

A lot of this guy. Right? This motherfucker Eminem. Elton John, Michael Jackson, everybody, right? Proof all the way to my whole way. This motherfucker was on a... Eminem was on a mission to fucking... I mean, fuck what I'm talking about.

Proof was on a mission. Well, Em too. I mean, I don't know, allegedly. Proof was on a mission. Well, M2. I mean, I don't know. Allegedly, proof was on a mission to end all M's beefs. Yes. The year he died. Wow. I heard you say that.

Yeah. For real. Wow, wow. And he did it. He did. You know what I'm saying? What the fuck shocked me about all that shit is this motherfucker talking to Christina Aguilera? You know what I'm saying?

What the fuck? He give a fuck about a couple clowns. That motherfucker showed up at our office, right? Came in. Like a she. Spent a verse on our shit. You know what I'm saying? And we went to a bowling match with G12 that night and got drunk as fuck. That's what I'm saying? And we went to a bowling match with G12 that night

and got drunk as fuck. It was ICP Groover's G12. Come on, come on. Make some noise. Let me tell you something. The problem with that fucking piece was it didn't involve

E, Joey, and Joe. It was our crews beefing all over the fucking city. You know what I'm saying? Like, how all them beefs go. You know what I'm saying? How all the beefs go. You ain't got a person involved. It's your crews that are, like, really in the streets doing it.

You know what I'm saying? They keep it going, right? You know what I'm saying? What the fuck we doing out here, man? Anyway, man, so, man, every time him show up, though, man, like one time we were shooting a video, and that motherfucker went downstairs, I believe, if I remember correct. We were in St. Andrews, and he was in the shelter, or vice versa.

Right, that's what I'm saying. Shelter below St. Andrews. That motherfucker went down there doing something, and we asked him, like, man, in the fucking house, let's talk to him, right? You know what I'm saying? Just for five. Just him and him. Yeah, man, just for five fucking minutes.

You know what I'm saying? So cool. Come on, man. I asked his manager. I don't know that. I mean, I don't know him personally, but I know he respects us. Or a whisper. Yeah, man, he always showing that love to us.

Like when he includes the Giants of Detroit, he right there. You know what I'm saying? Yep. I love that motherfucker. Yo, but you know what I'm saying? Like Eminem,

he's just on a whole different level. I'm talking about Paul. You know what I'm saying? He's on like that Beatles status. You know what I'm saying? Man, fuck that. Eminem ain't the only God right there. That motherfucker next to him,

people don't understand that, man. I like Paul. You know what right there. That motherfucking next to him. People don't understand that man. I like Paul. You know what I'm saying? Managed Elvis. All right, whatever the fuck he doing. When I'm talking about is Paul, Paul Rosenberg. He right there with him home fucking way man. Fuck the here giant to what the fuck we talking about man. This ain't the only motherfucking legend the guy. There are gods among us bro. Fuck this right. Fuck that he a giant too. What the fuck we talking about, man? This ain't the only motherfucking legend.

The God I'm talking about. There are gods among us, bro. Fuck that. That's right. The fuck we talking about? Anyway, what are we doing? Get fucked up, it looks like. If we get back to trajectory, we just got signed to Island Records.

That's where we got shit. Back on the track. We trying to figure out how y'all got to def jam that's really what we're trying to figure out so we're having records right and then fucking uh def jam they merge and buy them out whenever the fuck happened right and then fucking so all of a sudden they take the whole load from island. So now we're on fucking Def Jam. You know what I'm saying? Just like that. He said this is the late 90s.

Yeah, through paperwork. You know what I'm saying? I think, what was it, like 99 or some shit like that? That's a big time for Def Jam at that time. Yeah, right. So they just took over Ireland. You know what I mean? They fired the fuck out of Humana.

I'm so sorry, bro. I'm going to distract you, Jordan. It's good. One second. One second. Bro, we signed for them, whatever the fuck it was, right? Go ahead, bro. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry, bro.

I love you. It's good, man. Get, get, get. So Def Jam takes over. They fire Humaan. So now we're on Def Jam. We don't really know what the fuck is going on, because we don't have an A&R we don't got no representation up there you know I mean and uh we're still on a contract with Island but now Def

Jam owns our contract they come you know I mean come on man so so our manager gets a hold of fucking whoever the fuck up there you know he's like so we can go up and figure what the fuck is going on up there you know so we fly to new york we go up into up in the building whatever the fuck it is in manhattan and we get up into the floor and we walk off and that's like you were saying earlier it's all we could hear is yo what the fuck is a halloween in this bitch you know this is coming from the motherfuckers working in the cubicles you know what i'm saying? You know what I'm talking about, the cubicle motherfuckers, you know? And we're just like, yo, what the fuck? This is our label!

This is our fucking 19 deep. Right. We're like, this is our fucking label. You know what I'm saying? These motherfuckers are like, yo, who the fuck is this? Halloween and the bitch. We're like, what the fuck is happening up here, you know? So basically, we had like no relationship with Def Jam. And then what happened with them was we just, we wrote it out because they weren't asking for another record.

You know what I'm saying? So we didn't, we weren't working on when to give to them. So what happened was our contract expired because they weren't looking at us. So we just, we didn't get kicked off. They didn't even realize our contract expired so the day it expired we were like fuck yeah man call them up tell them to fuck off you know man what happened was these motherfuckers were like i don't know what's going on with that right our contract man we're fucking platinum bro you know i'm saying big time gold records you know i'm saying? Big time. Gold records. You know what I'm saying?

These motherfuckers are like, I don't know what that is. Our contract expires. Our attorney's like, expired. Hold up. That don't happen. Our attorney's like, don't say nothing. Just let a couple days pass. We'll see what happens. You know what I'm saying? I swear to God, bro. And then, um,

a couple days pass. They're like, we free. So we turn around and sign with these motherfuckers. What were they called? D3? D3. D3 or D3. Something like that, yeah.

These motherfuckers somehow signed that old dirty bastard in prison. We did a couple of tracks together. They paid us $100,000, $103,000, $ 1,300,000. Okay? I like it when you're three. Def Jam, we called Def Jam, and we're like, oh, by the way, we're up.

They're like, huh? We ain't know what the fuck to do. Wait, who is this now? Who is this? These motherfuckers killed a guy. Bang! I'm not kidding, man. I'm keeping it real.

I don't know what the fuck going on with a couple cops. Was this at the height of the stuff going on? You know what? I can't hear you, man. Does this happen at the same time that the stuff with Em is already happening? Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm imagining that's the late 90s.

Yeah. We turned around. We turned around. We turned around. We turned around. We turned around. We turned around. We turned around.

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You know what I'm saying? And it's crazy because we were on Jive, then we were on Hollywood, then we were on Island, then we were on Def Jam, didn't get dropped or kicked off of one label. Always fucking something happened where we just got out of our contracts. You know what I'm saying? So we just kept getting paid from these motherfuckers. Damn. The funny thing is...

Y'all was winning. Yes. And the fucking... All the crazy shit turned out to fucking be no benefit. You know what I'm saying? And the funny thing is... Yep.

Who the fuck D3 Entertainment was? Yeah, just some hooters. They had money. After they shoot a bomb ass video for us and they give us all that money, they're like, they want a business. They're like, you know what? We have come to the conclusion. Somebody was washing their money.

What the fuck's going on? We're a record label. So we're like, bye! You know what I'm saying? We've been known. What the fuck? Bye! Motherfucker! What know what I'm saying? We've been known with the fuck on that. Motherfucker! Motherfucker!

Fuck! So another label that we got the fuck out of got their money and got into your box. All we need to make a year for is the money. You know what I'm saying? Fuck y'all. Fuck you. You know what I'm saying? After that, we said, fuck labels.

And we did a distribution deal with Sony Red. And we've been independent since. Sick. Yeah. Killing it. My goodness. We've been doing this. Fuck y'all.

What the fuck going on? And we're like, what's the sense of being on a major? Don't no one know how to market us anyways. They come to us asking us. So we're like, fuck it. Why do we need that for? We don't need none of y'all no more, man. We're making trippin' the money.

What the fuck y'all talking about anyway? And y'all were still doing shows, I'm sure, during that whole period. We lived on the road, man. We ain't never stopped. We lived on the motherfucker road. We ain't like, let's take a couple years off, enjoy life, and then get back to your seat.

I mean, you know what? We don't stop. It wasn't until fucking right after COVID, I took my very first vacation ever. You know what I'm saying? Never went on vacation. Because we weren't working, dog. You know what I'm saying?

It was always about the fucking grind. And now I take vacations every fucking week. You know what I'm saying? I fell in love with them motherfuckers, man. Joey. Oh, my God. Joey, you don't know how serious that point is, bro. We love COVID.

I'm not. Yo. Said nobody. COVID was my favorite time, dog. COVID was the shit. You know, I never even got that shit either. Fuck it. But, yo.

You never got COVID? No, fuck no. We all got COVID. We got COVID the first time we got back to school. Dog, let me yo. You never got COVID? No, fuck no. We all got COVID. We got to move the shit out of that shit. Let me tell you something. Rest in peace all the people. As soon as they did

that quarantine shit, dog, I was like, fuck yeah. You know what I'm saying? I was like, man, I got so close to my family, you know what I'm saying? My wife and my kids and shit, you know what I'm saying?

It was insane. I know motherfuckers got divorced and they went out of their fucking brains. Not me, dog. I like, I should have locked in like a train shift. And then check it out. Here goes the dopest shit that happened out of COVID.

Is we got stupid paid, number one. You know what I'm saying? Because we were doing pay-per-views from his crib and shit. You know what I'm saying? Cleaning the fuck up. You're doing the freshest shit. You know what the fucking funny thing is, man? And then, remember, everybody wore their pajamas every fucking day when you're in the house.

What the fuck are you dressing up for? I never stopped, dog. I still dress like that. You know what I'm saying? I'm comfortable every motherfucking day. I'm wearing fucking slides right now with some fucking Jordan basketball pants. I don't give a fuck. You're like COVID.

Straight up. I never turn back, dog. You know, man, I met God when I was seven years old, and he was like, fuck work. Unless you love. You met who? You met God? God. Okay, that's right. That's right. Yeah, so we're doing the else I love it. We were we fuck you. They say I'm a creation fucking time shine Who is he taught way God when I was a bro me and my brother you You remember? I mean, I told you. You don't remember when you made God, bro. Hey, man.

You don't remember when you made God, bro? Come on, man. I drank too heavily for too many years. This is a whole decade missing out on my brain, man. Multiple.

Right. So anyways, like right when they lifted quarantine, you know what I'm saying? We were like fucking... He made the non-drunk conversation.

Drunk conversation. Each other make it make sense. We went to streaming, you know what I'm saying? So they made it legal to have like a certain amount of people on this shit. So we were like, all right. And this is before,

we were actually going to do this shit before COVID. You know what I'm saying? And it just happened. Everybody started doing this shit so we're like all right we're and this is before we're actually gonna do this shit before covid you know what i'm saying and it just happened everybody started doing this shit that we had already thought about before covid we're like all right we're gonna do a fucking actual concert in his fucking living room and we're gonna fucking auction tickets off like 100 tickets and so it'll be 100 motherfuckers in the crib them tickets went for like a grand a piece you know know what I'm saying? No, they didn't, Joe. Some of them did. Hold up. They were auctioned. That's what I'm saying. Them motherfuckers went for multiple grand. What are you talking about? The concert was

a show at Bonneton's house. What are you talking about? And we streamed that bitch too. One of them brought us the tickets. Auction them. Of course, you know what I'm saying? What the fuck? And motherfuckers flew in from all over america all over the world what the are you talking about joey you don't remember

yo and that was just the first that's all that drinking but uh and that big weed cannon but yo and that was the first that was the first one we did then we just kept doing we kept doing patreon shits from there the thing was when the fucking uh uh what's it called came coven yeah uh what's it called uh fucking love cold dude from the few uh what's his name uh coven was great doing a captain from house and we're like been there done that dude before is even a storm what i'm saying and clocked no i'm lying it was during the storm too though that's right you know what i'm saying and um we were like man but we played this before the shit happened yeah we were talking about doing that shit. So actually COVID helped you actually do it.

It pushed us to do it. It gave you the incentive to do it. We already fucking this before it's happened anyway. You know what I'm saying? We're clocking. I ain't saying that COVID happened because of us. Oh, shit. Well, we at least COVID.

We were prepared. We already had our game, our plan tight when the shit kicked in. Anyway, man. What? Yeah, we did this. What? We did that shit. No, hold on, hold on.

No, actually, no. Before we get into quick time, let's talk Juggalo. Talk FBI. I want to hear that. Oh, here we go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You ready for this, Norm? I'm ready for FBI

you can call me check it out so 2011 Joe you ready go ahead and tell it you gonna pass it on me alright shit let's go so anyway so 2011 right

we're just chilling and it comes to our attention they're like the FBI came out with a gang assessment list. National gang assessment list. We're talking about MS-13. We're talking Bloods, Crips, all the prison gangs. You know what I'm saying? Juggalos around that bitch. Juggalos

around that shit. So first when we heard that, we were like, well, that's kind of cool. Let's start it up. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So first when we heard that, we were like, well, that's kind of cool. You know what I'm saying? Let's start it up. You know what I'm saying? Let's ride. You know what I'm saying? But then the fallout started happening from that shit.

First thing that happened was all the fucking chain stores and the malls, hot topics, expenses, all that, immediately dropped all of our shit. Because now our shit was gang apparel. And it was being sold as gang apparel in their eyes. You know what I'm saying? Our concerts were suddenly fucking gang rallies. Our concerts were considered gang rallies. Straight up.

Now, check it out. Here goes the most fucked up shit. If you were wearing anything with this guy on it, the hatchet man, you were considered a gang member. So, like, fucking kids in the middle of fucking butthole America, the grass fields, you know what I'm saying? Driving to school in the morning,

you know what I'm saying? With a fucking hatchet man on their shirt, an ICP shirt in general, gets flicked or whatever the fuck. The cop walks up, they're fucking instantly a gang member and they get treated like a fucking gang member. Motherfuckers were getting denied going to the armed services.

Motherfuckers were losing custody of their kids. You know what I'm saying? All that shit. It's all law. Because it's official gang shit now. You know what I'm saying? If you It's all law Because it's official Gang shit now You know what I'm saying If you're fucking It still is Right now

I don't know about right now They never came out with a list And it kind of like Bubbled down a little bit You know what I'm saying But they never came out With another list And we took them to court

For fucking years You know what I'm saying Four times bro You could say that's defamation To a degree couldn't you We tried everything man We even had We tried to sue them four times

What's that fucking What's that fucking... What's that fucking... The lawyer motherfuckers that helped us? What are they called? Oh, the ACLU. ACLU. I was going to say NAACP, but that's not them. The ACLU.

It's close enough. But even they were on our case. You know what I'm saying? But it just kept getting thrown out. They just kept getting thrown out. You know what I'm saying? For the longest time. But the thing is, they never went back and said our bad never apologized nothing you know what

i'm saying they just they just the craziest never brought it up again you know what's the crazy shit about the shit bro is if you're fucking fighting for custody for a child right their opposing attorney can be like your honor this this man or woman is a gang member in the eyes of the government. And they're not lying. Bro, what the fuck going on? N.W.A. got a letter for fuck the police saying, calm down. Just a letter. You say that?

Hey, we'll take the letter. We'll take the letter all day, calm down. Give us a letter every day, motherfucker! We'll take the letter. We'll take the letter all day, every day. Bro, I ain't never heard of this. I ain't never heard of nothing like that in the fucking history of rock and roll. What the fuck going on? You just going to criminalize our fans. Our fan base.

And one of the things is, they all dress alike and they congregate All wearing the same shit So do motherfucking football tailgate parties You know what I'm saying There ain't no motherfucking gang You know what I'm saying What the fuck is happening

What's going on bro These motherfuckers gathering in rural towns In parks and shit You know what I'm saying They're all wearing the same type shit The police are like What the fuck is going on That's a gang.

The police... I thought I was going to say fuck, fuck, fuck, whatever. Say it again? What you want to say, fuck? The police are like... Whatever you want to say, fuck. I'm just going to say fuck.

Listen, the police are like, what the fuck going on over there? You know what I'm saying? Right. So listen, they're like, oh, all them symbols and shit, that's a gang, right? We tell the fucking higher-ups

they tell the higher-ups and they're like, motherfucker, I'm going to give you extra funding so you can get extra padding on your police seats and shit. Because what you're dealing with... You get a brand new SUV if you clean. You got a gang problem in your town. You got juggalos. You got a gang

problem. You got some juggalos in your little fucking backwoods city. Now you got a gang problem. You got some juggalos in your little fucking backwoods city. Now you got a gang problem, here goes this fucking money to combat it. Now you got a new ass UV. So that's the MS-13 knocking on your door. We need a little money to deal with that. What the fuck going on? This is rock and roll, what the fuck is going on, man?

Over some music. What the fuck? Right, history is a country. What the fuck, God? You still don't believe me? You're running this bitch! And people are like, they're like, yo. The bitch? What the fuck? Fuck you. These are millions of people, you motherfucker.

What the fuck? And then white people, you devils. So they say like this, they say, yo. What the fuck are you doing, you goddamn clown? And now we're back out of devil shit. I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry. So they're like, yeah, but this motherfucker, he was a juggalo, and he wanted to murder

this family and shit. You know what I'm saying? What the hell is that? But you're like, yo, he was fucking crazy. It's not because he was a juggalo. You know what I'm saying? There's motherfuckers that listen to Taylor Swift and fucking mass murderers. You know what I'm saying? Straight up. Fucking killer motherfuckers. I don't even know that listen to Taylor Swift and fucking mass murderers. You know what I'm saying?

Straight up. Fucking killer motherfuckers. I don't even know the name of Taylor Swift. Party All Night or whatever the fuck it's called. This motherfucker was a clown before we even thought of this shit. What the fuck are you talking about? I don't know. Is that her?

Maniac. Right. He ain't got nothing to do with us, you fucking idiot. I'm going to take a pee-pee break, guys. Chicken's good. Then where's the third member? He's dead. That was my brother. Yeah, you fucking idiot. I'm going to take a pee-pee break, guys. Chicken's good. But then where's the third member? He's dead. That was my brother.

Yeah, man, unfortunately. He's like, oh, shit. It's all right, man. It's all right. Four of us, bro. Yeah, and then both of them are out. Yeah, both of them passed away. When we started, there was four of us, bro.

Kid Villain and his brother, John Kitschass. And both of them died of heroin, bro. Well, no, my brother was actuallyicksass and both of them died of heroin. Yeah, well no my brother was actually alcohol but he was heroin in the mix. Heroin. Yeah, the heroin, yup. And the funny thing is bro I had a heroin addiction. You didn't have one. I did man. The problem was we used to be pro wrestlers right? We ended up doing WWE

and I mean WCW. We did them all, right? ECW, TNA, every- I saw an interview between me and you the other day. Somebody was filming it. We was talking about popping Vikings. Yeah, no, we used to have handfuls of pills. The second I'd wake up in the morning, I'd take, back in the day when there was still Vikings, those football cup boys, I'd take five of those with five Rip Fuels, just beast

out. Damn, with five Rip Fuels, god damn. Yeah, back when they were a thing, Rip Fuels, the Fedrin shit was back in the day. Anyway, long story short, man, that shit almost killed me. I used to eat Vikings like it was shit, man. Heroin, man. Heroin? I ain't trying to get Trump doing props, but

when Trump became the president, all of a sudden, fucking... And I was like, man, I can get this fucking heroin for nothing, you know what I'm saying? What the fuck I'm doing? And what the... exactly. This shit almost killed me, man. You got a quick time?

You got to take a pee-pee? I got to take a pee-pee. I'm breaking it. What are you doing? This shit almost killed me, man. Quick time? Hold on. You got to take a pee-pee? I got to take a pee-pee. All right. While you're taking a pee-pee, let's talk about the Hoodstock concert. Hoodstock and then we take a walk. Was that the same? The Hoodstock joint.

Y'all performed that? Woodstock? The Woodstock. Sorry, my bad. Oh, my God. Hoodstock. You know why I say Hoodstock? Because this used to be the hood back in the days.

All the hip hop shit happened in Miami back in the days. We had a free hip hop concert called Hoodstock, because in this hood, this used to be the hood back in the days. All the hip-hop shit happened in Miami back in the days. And we had a free hip-hop concert called Hoodstock. Man, I used to be so up on Miami shit back in the day, like fucking Chazzy Chaz and fucking Clay D and fucking Raheem. All them motherfuckers, dog. Creep Dog, all that shit, dog. Shake Them Titties. Miami has a lot, a lot of hip-hop. Yeah, I used to, man, I was like a head for all that shit, man. So yeah, we had a local dope boy crew out here that put this free concert on, and it was called Hoodstock.

But Woodstock, y'all did the, what year was that Woodstock that it happened? 99. Wasn't that the same one that we see all that footage of DMX? Yeah, yep. Right? Same one. Talk about that one. Man, dog, that was the highest honor of any honor, playing that shit.

You know what I'm saying Woodstock Woodstock Dog It's That We were on tour at the time And

Them motherfuckers Was talking about The 100 grand We were like What the fuck We were on tour On Pittsburgh And

And they were like Yo come do Woodstock You know what I'm saying And we were just like Fuck these shows That we gotta do You know what I'm saying We just sort of

Cancelled them hoes. We fucked our Texas market up for a while. I don't think we missed more than two shows. It was Texas, though. If even one, though, bro. We were animal. We were like, fuck that. Man, we were a beast on the road, though.

Was that the first Woodstock since the original one back in the day? No, they had one in like 96 or something. They had one more in the 90s that you don't hear about because nothing happened. So this is the third one. Yeah, that was the third one. Right. That was the one that they burned down and shit. They came out with a documentary.

And it's funny because we were on that documentary. We did an interview for that shit. And they didn't air none of our shit because their whole thing in that documentary was everybody was dissing it. You know what I'm saying? We were like, man, it was the shit. It was just too much stuff. We were like, yo, that was the shit. We were like, yo, that was the shit, dog.

We were like, shit, we can't believe this motherfucker included us. Yeah. You're talking about a piece of history. Check this out.

It was the most insane shit. We were like, okay, this shit going on miles beneath the earth, but it's clocking. We're going to include it. Whoever the fuck did that was somebody I love.

We were on stage. Yo, biggest CM all fuckers you ever saw in your life. People. It looked like fucking carpet. That must have felt amazing. It looked like straight up shag carpet. You know what I'm saying? But it was a crowd.

You'd be on stage. You'd be like, yo, you could see the speed of sound. It's fucking insane. You could see it with your eyes. You'd be like, yo, put your middle fingers in the air and go in a wave as the sound hit them you know what i'm saying this shit was the illest shit i've ever seen in my life you know what i'm saying the shit you were saying would hit them like three seconds after you say this shit you know what i'm saying it's fucking insane however many thousands of people fuck it was it was the craziest shit dog and like that there would never be nothing i could

think of that could compare to doing that shit. You know what I'm saying? And we did the illest fucking set ever, man. We had motherfuckers out there naked. You know what I'm saying? This motherfucker gorilla pressed some bitch on his fucking... I don't know, fucking this big ass... I picked this bitch up out the...

You know, I didn't know what to do, right? She came home time freaking out. What's this thing of Faygo a big-ass storage thing full of these things facing upwards because you know it's the cheapest fucking soda D Fagel, you know. It's the cheapest fucking soda ever. You know like Winn-Dixie here, how we have the Winn-Dixie soda? That's what they had. Yeah, it's called Fagel. And they got every fucking flavor you could dream up.

You know what I'm saying? They had that one song, Blueberry Fagel or whatever. You know what the thing is, man? Back in the day when we very, very, very, very first began. We looked at Run DMC, right? My fucking heroes, dawg. My heroes, too. I seen DMX on the show last night, my man. I seen with DMC on here.

I was like, man, I also tuned in. Like, Run DMC, like, forget about it. DMC was dope. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I meant. But we had DMX right there where you guys were at. I saw the DMX, yeah. That's that damn meant. But we had DMX right there where you got wrapped up. I saw the DMX, yeah. That's that damn Japanese.

Quick time. I meant DMC. Man, this motherfucker is eating the shit out of that chicken. God damn. I ain't never seen nobody get down that hard on a fucking wing. You're going to fuck around and eat the tip. Quick time? Sure.

Y'all ready for it? I think he was finishing a story. You good? Yeah, what story was it? I was like, I love Joey finish. All right, look, look. We're going to play quick time. We've been promoting this game.

No, it was a cool story. Wait a minute. Was it? Was it? Don't nobody remember, though. No, what was it we were talking about? I don't know. It went from something to something else.

Whatever, man. The Gorilla Press? The Faygo? No, it was after that. Yeah. We started talking about some other shit I forgot

well if you remember we're doing quick time we can come back to you who cares I'm sorry but we ICP motherfucker I don't know alright so quick time

with slime we're going to give you two choices this is our drinking game now so you can bring in if you got somebody here with you they can take your shots

you want a drink Clay they can take your shots for you alright Clay's going to drink for me. Alright, Cholo. My girlfriend, Sarah. Come on. That's our DJ. That's my DJ right now. DJ Clay.

DJ Clay in the motherfucking house. This motherfucker been with us since what year, Joey? 2006. That's what I'm saying. He's on the road with me right now. This motherfucker a rapper, a DJ, everything. DJ Clay, man. Southwest Detroit for life. I. Don't be honest.

You're drinking for me. Quick time with Slime. You're drinking. Don't worry about what it is. Get over here, sir. Don't worry about what the fuck is in there. You got his girlfriend here. You got A. You put Tiger Bone on this shit?

Are you done with this? Whatever you got there, I don't know what's in it. Are you done with this? Whatever you got there, I guess that's what you're drinking. Is that shit? What happened to my... I'm going to explain the rules. We're going to give you two choices. You pick one. Nobody drinks. If you say both or neither, we all drink it. Everybody drink it.

If we say both or neither? Yeah. If you pick it, that's it. We keep moving to the next one. And if anybody we mention is a story, if there's a story, please tell us a story about the person. We ain't going to get past the first one, guy. Y'all ready? Let's go.

She's the one taking shots for him. Okay. What do you want? Come on. All right, look. Eminem or Benzino? Oh, Eminem. Come on, man.

You guys almost made me cry out here. I ain't normally cry down here if someone's Benzino. Yo, that shit was ill. Wait, you picked Benzino? That shit was ill. What the fuck happened there, guy? What the fuck was that? That was insane.

It was some real shit. He started crying, dog. Joey, tell them my funny Benzino story. Oh, shit. All right. AJ, you told me about this. No, we didn't. I told you.

Yeah. I told him I know Jumper. He had no idea. Yo, I'm like, what the fuck? I spilled it. But I watched that whole shit with Benzino, and I remember him saying that he answers every DM he gets.

You know what I'm saying? I didn't know that. And this motherfucker was on his fucking Instagram. I guess he was flexing in the mirror or something. He was like, yo, he'd fuck himself if he could. You know what I'm saying? And Benzino saw his shit. Hold up, man.

And got at him threatening him like, I'll kill you. What happened was, man, it was late at night. Listen, it was late at night. I'm sleeping through. Man, I'm going to throw up. I'm going to throw up. I'm going to throw up. I'm going to throw up. I'm going to throw up. I'm going him. I'm like, I'll kill you. What happened was, man, it was late at night. Listen, it was late at night. Man, I want to tell this because I respect Benzino.

I was flipping through the Instagram one night laying on my couch and Smurvy was in the mirror. I mean, he's got the fucking body of Adonis. Let's keep it real. You know what I'm saying? He's got the body of an Adonis. Adrian Adonis, the wrestler back in the day. That motherfucker works, man. Give him his props.

But the problem is, he was looking in the mirror like- You know who he reminds me of? Let's squash this. Can I say who he reminds me of? Let's squash this. He reminds me of the bad guy from the movie The Mask back in the day. Can we squash this? Can we?

Thank you. Hold on, hold on. Let's squash this right now. Wait, wait, wait. Let's squash this. Hold on. It's Ben Squash, though. It's squash this right now. Let's squash this. Hold on. It's squash, though. It's Ben's squash.

It's Ben's squash. It's Ben's squash. Listen, let me finish the story. He was quick with it, though. That's dope. Let me finish the story. Here's what happened, man. He was looking at me like you were in love.

I love hip-hop. Listen, it was late at night, man. I might have been too late. I don't know what the fuck going on, but I was like, you know, man, this motherfucker got 15 million followers. I'm not even processing he would ever see this shit. This is like Tom, man, among millions or whatever the fuck. I was like, he probably fuck himself.

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Anyway, man, when I woke up in the morning, my boy Wacko the Kid. Shout out to Wacko. Oh, yeah. Shout out, Wacko. Out in L.A. That motherfucker got shot like 30 times. Airheads.

Sweet ass rapper. Anyway, he was like, what the fuck y'all doing with Benzino, man? Why you dissing him? I was like, what are you talking about? That's right. He was like, he's been promoting our shit with us. We got a weed deal together. I was like,

fuck, I had no idea. You know why I dissed him? I don't know. Because Source ain't never put us in there. Never even mentioned us. Not even a fucking mention that quick. Come on, man. How many decades?

How am I not even a mention? Not even a diss? It was a diss at least. I'm fucking telling you. We sold it in millions and we're hip hop. Nothing. Yeah, there should have been something. We don't play no fucking instruments.

What the fuck do you do? Did I not say the same story? All the 90s. Yeah. So go ahead. No, let same story? All the 90s. Yeah. So go ahead. No, let's keep playing the game, guys. Okay. That was it, but they called and made up.

There you go. Well, the heck was it? To wrap it up, they made up. But there goes your story. The squash. Nas or Jay-Z? Nas. All day.

Same? Yeah. Okay. You know what? No, I don't agree. Everybody says Illmatic was the record. Same? Yeah. Okay. You know what? No, I don't agree. Everybody says Illmatic was the record. Not to me. It was written.

It was written. To me, it was written over. No? No, no, no. But still not. Illmatic's dope, but it was written. What you saying? You can't go wrong with Nas, though.

Still not. You know what I'm saying? Still not. That's like saying that fucking one pizza is better than the other pizza. You know what I'm saying? They're both delicious. Yeah, they're both delicious. I tell you, Detroit pizza is pretty damn good, bro.

We don't even call that shit in Detroit, Detroit pizza. It was just a square pizza. We don't know where the fuck that came from. See, man, I'm torn up in Canada. Don't nobody know where that came from? You don't like it? I've always eaten it. I didn't know it was called Detroit style.

It's amazing. It's only called that when you go other places. Right. It's like a square pizza. It's just a square boy. Yeah, but it's not like the Chicago deep dish. No, they don't even fuck with that in Chicago. Real Chicago movers don't eat that shit.

They got Detroit pizza. I'm like, oh, okay. We done cut off that shit. They got businesses, Detroit pizza. I'm like, cool. Kid Rock or Limp Bizkit? Limp Bizkit. Fuck yeah all day. Tell them, Joey. Kid Rock's a piece of shit. Wait a cool. Kid Rock or Limp Bizkit? Limp Bizkit. Fuck yeah all day.

Tell them, Joey. Kid Rock's a piece of shit. Wait a minute. Tell them about Limp Bizkit. Tell them about Limp Bizkit. He's like, tell them. Man, I'm so sick of this shit. Tell them about Brett.

Tell them about Brett. What the fuck? I'm sick of this shit. Tell them a story. It ain't nothing to say, man. All right, so we did a festival. I don't fucking know when it was. It was before COVID sometime a year or two.

I don't remember. I'm like COVID. I'm like before COVID Sometime a year or two I don't remember I'm like COVID But Like COVID Yo Said nobody Yo check it out I got your back though I got your back

You guys like COVID I love it But I'm going to name my next kid COVID Fuck it Oh my god Hey bro Make some noise

I'm not making noise for that But anyhow So now This is why I don't be fucking with drinking no more to you. So you could drink. I'll get to it. Now this is a while out. That's why. But so anyhow, so we did a festival and they were on the same festival and we were playing earlier in the day.

And I don't know their headlines, some other stage, whatever the fuck. So um, so after we are off or whatever you know I was just like it took the credentials off and I was drunk as you know what I'm saying I took the credentials off and and with a couple of my homies I'm like let's just go out and get me in there and pay man no I didn't I just took my off I was like we're about to go to this festival we're about to do a festival style I don't give a about none of the special treatment we're gonna just be some festival go and see what it's like You know what I'm saying

So we're just up in there Doing our thing You know what I'm saying And then so we go to this Amphitheater shit And Limp Bizkit's playing Now we know them motherfuckers We got a remix record

With a song with them You know what I'm saying The name is Fred Fred Durst Yeah Yeah and we're cool With them motherfuckers Him in particular

Cool shit with them You know what I'm saying But I'm there as a fan You know what I'm saying I'm just there as a festival with him, you know what I'm saying? But I'm there as a fan, you know what I'm saying? I'm just there as a festival motherfucker, you know what I'm saying? So then, we ain't in the fucking pavilion part. We're just right outside of it. And it's a group of these

fucking kids, right? They keep getting onto the floor, but the security keeps kicking my leg. Ah, scat, you fucking punks, whatever they're saying. And I'm like, yo, let's get these motherfuckers onto the floor. You know what I'm saying? And so I was like, we'll do the old tactic. We just mob up mad deep.

We'll tell them to get in the middle of us. I didn't give a fuck about getting on the floor. We're just trying to look out for these kids at a concert. You know what I'm saying? Give them a better concert experience. So I was like, yo, get in the middle of us. We're all going to bum rush security. You know what I'm saying?

And they can't get us all. You know what I'm saying? So once we get through, you motherfuckers just spread out. You know what I'm saying? And they can't get us all. You know what I'm saying? So once we get through, you motherfuckers just spread out. You know what I'm saying? And we'll just fucking head back. The security didn't even try stopping us. You know what I'm saying?

So next thing I know, we're fucking butted up against the stage at a Limp Bizkit concert. So I was just purely fucking around. I was purely fucking around. I looked at my homies and shit. I'm just like, hey, somehow if I get on stage, I looked at my homies and shit. I'm just like, hey,

somehow if I get on stage, I'm going to drop kick this motherfucker. He's talking about Fred Durst, my friend. Right. I'm like, I'll drop kick that motherfucker. If we can fucking get out. If I get on stage, I'm going to drop kick this motherfucker. Watch. You know what I'm saying? And the thing about me, especially when I'm drinking, if I

say some shit or somebody dares me to do some shit I got a fucking do it Dumb asses, you know saying I did but I didn't so anyhow, so it's crazy. So all of a sudden we're mashed up in the front of the fucking crowd I don't know how the fuck we got up there. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing there, but I had no backstage passes. I'm in fucking a white beater, fucking basketball shorts and flip flops, no socks. You know what I'm saying? My feet are black from getting stepped on. You know what I'm saying? And so all of a sudden Fred Durst goes, all right, we're going to get some of you motherfuckers up on stage now.

So if you were in front, come up on stage. And all of a sudden I just feel like I'm getting shifted and moving and we get pulled up on the fucking stage i'm like oh my god we're on stage now what the fuck just happened so i was like you about to drop kick him or what i'm like oh this is a couple of the homies so i'm like, oh, shit. I was like, I got to drop this kick. I got to drop kick this motherfucker now. Fuck. I said I was going to do it. I can't be a bitch.

You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, fuck, man. So now I'm trying to put it off. Right? I'm like, all right. I'll drop kick him if he comes over on this side of the stage. That's the only way I'm doing it. If he comes over this side of the stage, he's getting fucking drop kicked.

Right after I got done saying that, motherfucker comes to this side of the stage. I'm like, ain't this a bitch? a i was like it's go time man so i ran out there sold out festival i run out there in my pajamas basically you know what i'm saying and i didn't i didn't give him a real drop kick i gave him because we were wrestling for so many years I know how to do A wrestling dropkick So I was like Yeah So I If you look I barely touched him

But I got up there And dropkicked his ass And before I could even Hit them on the fucking floor Security had me Handing the fuck up Yo they beat the shit Out of me

They dragged me Off the stage Behind the stage They put it to me dog It was fucking great Man I don't know What the fuck T.J. Lethal

Talking about They got me In some secret Fucking security back room, right? And they're just like, you're going to jail, buddy, all this and that. I was like, look, man, I'm Shaggy Tudor from Insane Clown Posse. Tell Fred Durst it was me, dog. He won't give a shit. Well, he gave a shit, you know what I'm saying?

But I'm drunk out my ass, you know what I'm saying? But they let me go because of that, you know what I'm saying? So they let me go. And the security was so mad, they're like, get the fuck off the property. What? They kicked me out the whole fucking festival. So I had to go sit on my bus like a bitch for the rest of the festival. But yeah, so I ain't been able to live that shit down since.

You know what I'm saying? But you know what? I've been on multiple platforms and shit apologizing. You know what I'm saying? Because you just don't do that. Fred Durst. Yes. And everybody, not just Fred Durst, but everybody that was involved with that show,

including the festival who was involved with that stage, the guitar player, DJ Lethal. You know what I'm saying? All of them. You know what I'm saying? Because I know when you're on stage, that's your shit. You know what I'm saying? Invading that shit, that's grounds to get your ass whipped. You know what I'm saying?

And I know that shit. Because we've done it a million times. We've beaten the shit out of motherfuckers coming up on the stage. That used to be every night. You know what I mean? It'd be like a fucking barroom brawl on stage.

You know what I'm saying? I take what I said back. So I've apologized to every one of those motherfuckers publicly, you know what I'm saying? Because it was some foul shit, you know?

And I would keep doing it. But yeah, so I drop kicked the motherfucker. Wrestling style, though. If I really would have drop kicked him, he would have been in the fourth row. Check it out. Fred Durst was on Instagram, and he's got 35 million, you know. And I was like, let me see if this motherfucker hears me.

And I sent him a thing, and I was like, man, Joey never meant to kick you, bro. I meant to, like a motherfucker. No, you didn't. You meant to connect, not to connect. No, no, no. I didn't mean to send him sailing. That's what I said. He was just trying to have fun and he was drunk, man. We're sorry. I know you heard it. And he was like,

it's all love, bro. Alright, let's get to a shot, guys. I'm sorry, bro. Let's get to a shot. I definitely want a shot. Death jam a jive. Oh, fuck. Same thing. You can say neither or both. Both.

Neither. I mean, for us, fucking both. I mean, for what they've done for hip-hop, Def Jam all fucking day. You know what I'm saying? Def Jam's a shit. They were just following us. We're going with your first answer. Where's Jive at?

Fucking both. Take a shot. Take a shot followed us go with your first answer. Yeah fucking boy Take a shot. Take a shot Cheers I'm on my own. All right. Here we go. Mr. Lee said you can't have your own. Hey, y'all. I'm on my own, y'all. Motherfucker. What's the list? Drink champs. Drink champs.

All right. What am I doing? All right. Take it a shot. Take it. Here we go. Go, go. We already took it.

All right. No, no, no. Don't take it again. No, no, no. Nothing happened, guys. That shit was cool anyway. Let's go. Scott Hall or Razor Ramon? Who?

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Hey, Tupac or DMX? DMX. Man, Tupac all day. Okay. You mad at Tupac? No DMX? DMX. Man, Tupac all day. Okay. You've been having Tupac? I love DMX. He played the... No, we're not having Tupac.

He no-showed, but we paid him anyway. Wait, you paid Pac and he no-showed? No, DMX. DMX, yeah. DMX. Later in his life. It's all good, man. He would have been ill at the game.

He would have been. You met Tupac? No. No, fuck no. We never met DMX either, but he was supposed to play the gathering, but he no show. But it's all good. DMX, not Pac. DMX and something.

He's supposed to play the gathering. Yeah, DMX was. We paid him to play the gathering, but he no show. Later in his life, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. When he's going through a lot of problems. No, no. He said Pac. He said DMX. I meant DMX. Oh, you know what I'm saying? When he's going through a lot of problems. No, no. He said Park. He said DMX.

I meant DMX. Oh, you meant DMX? DMX was both of them. Yeah, we booked him, paid him, and he didn't show up. That's what I'm saying. But like I said, it was one he was going through really rough times. There was no hard feelings at all. You know what I'm saying?

That's another thing I can say about being a manager for artists that performed at the gathering. You guys are hella professional. Like, no matter how crazy the gathering looked, the deposits were there. And right before you performed, the check was given. Man, we've had some shows you would not believe. We had some lineups over there. Bobby Brown at the fucking gathering. Bobby Brown?

Funkadelic. Fucking George Clinton right? You know what I'm saying? Fuck it I mean name it dog they been there man it's insane

I know you've had some L people I didn't know Bobby Brown he rocked it at like three in the morning we just had Kid N Play

wow we had C&C Music Factory how did that play out for the two of us? Crazy it was insane they love it man

you know what this motherfucker what's his name Freedom Williams or whatever the fuck he's so used to like Music Factory. How did that play out for the two of them? Crazy. It was insane. They love it, man. You know what? This motherfucker was his name, Freedom Williams or whatever the fuck. He's so used to like doing shit like PG style. He's at the gathering.

He's on stage at a festival and he goes, the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire. We don't need no water. Let the mother,

mother burn. He hit him with the mother, mother. I couldn't believe it. He hit him with the mother mother i couldn't believe it he hit him with the mother mother okay nerd fuck you doing i heard that shit so you don't matter nowhere else we got you come on all right this is the topic of the day kendrick or drake

drake i'm gonna say drake because drake is the homie now right dra Drake is the homie now. You know what I'm saying? Drake is the homie? Drake is the homie now, yeah. He rocked a fucking... Yeah, he was wearing one of our records, one of our jerseys. And we were just like, it's probably just a stylist gave it to him or whatever because it's retro and cool or whatever the fuck, you know what I'm saying? And then our boy fucking Adam 22, he was like, I talked to Drake, and he said he used to bump his shit back in Toronto. And namely, he said Gray Malenko and shit like that man he gave us the exact quote yeah we were on no

jump i forgot what the fuck it was but oh by the way i talked to drake read the quote drake was like man we uh house of illusions was the shit yeah he said that was it, yeah. He was like, you motherfuckers are marketing geniuses. Man, my entire fucking wig was gone. This motherfucker like, why are you tripping? We're legends. I was like, that's fucking Drake. Right, he's another motherfucker on another level

type shit. Alright, let's take it to Royce the Five-Nine or Obie Trice. Man, we... I gotta say Royce. I would love you to track with Royce, man. Yeah, I say Royce. Y'all haven't done anything with Royce the 5'9 or Obi Trice? Man, we... I got to say Royce. I wouldn't love you to track with Royce, man. Yeah, I got to say Royce. Y'all haven't done anything with Royce? No.

I don't know. Royce is so dope, man. Both Obi Trice is dope. No, I haven't, yeah. That ain't me. No. Royce, we're from Detroit. We never met then, man.

No. I would love to meet Royce, though. He used to run with Eminem, you know what I'm saying? So we were never on the same team. But before all that. Even from the beginning. Let me ask. Because me being an outsider.

That's an insider. That's an insider. That's an outsider. Say it three times. Same thing. I can't believe. That you guys. and them and them I thought you guys

was the I thought Detroit was solid you would think that you would think it was a battlefield it's been around since

our come up it was fucking dog eat dog man there was no There was no local Supporting local shits you know what I'm saying It was motherfuckers would go to the Record store throw your fucking flyers Away and put their shit up You know what I'm saying

Cause in my opinion No not that I'm saying in general you know what I'm saying In my opinion Eminem And you guys would like the same. Yeah, but, you know, unfortunate things happen, but it's all good, man. Our problem was we told everybody to suck our dicks. You know what I'm saying? MTV, everybody.

You sure did. We weren't selling out about this shit. We were like, hey, fuck you. Let me tell you something, man. I asked my son. My son's 19. I was like, who's your favorite rapper? He's like, you, you dad and i'm like that's the shit bud but but for real like when you're sitting by yourself and who who are you

bumping you know who's your favorite who do you think's the dopest in the game he was like eminem i was like it's just one of those things you gotta to swallow. I got to say this. You guys are getting it wrong, though. I wasn't like, because I was angry. I was like. You were happy. Thank God you didn't say somebody fucking whack. Right. Thank God you recognize.

Right. You know what I'm saying? I was proud. I was like, fuck, give me a hug. I mean, I might not have. I don't remember. My eight-year-old son. It's just a couple weeks ago. I was saying the type of shit. I'm, I might not, but I don't remember. My eight-year-old son. It was just a couple weeks ago.

I was saying the type of shit. I'm like, what you listen to? He was like, what's that rap guy? He raps like ba-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba. I was like, Eminem? He was like, yeah, that's his name. I was like, oh, shit, man. So, yeah, our kids bump the shit out of Eminem.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, we're proud, man. I just wish I could meet him, man, so I could tell him that story about my son and be like, I'm glad he ain't seen nobody whacking me. Yeah, let's mix it up. All right, everyone, that's phenomenal, man. All right, radio or podcast? Podcast.

Podcast, man. I don't even listen to radio. How the fuck is local? How does local radio zix anymore in cities? Who the fuck listens to that shit? With podcasts and XM and shit? Who the fuck? You know what I'm saying? Who don't podcast nowadays?

I do it twice a week. I'm talking about like, who the fuck listens to clown ass local radio in the cities? The fucking Jim and Ellen, the morning time assholes. You know what I'm saying? When there's fucking satellite everywhere. What the fuck y'all doing? That's true. Yeah, satellite. What the morning time assholes. You know what I'm saying? When there's fucking satellite everywhere. What the fuck y'all doing? That's true. Yeah, satellite.

What the fuck, clown? Somebody was like, can I get an interview? Who were the morning? I'm like, yeah, you can suck my dick. Damn. You didn't tell him that? You didn't tell him you can suck my dick? It's funny.

You know what I know, man? You want to know what's funny? Because I did that fucking shit. It got past me. I was like, all right. You my bro. There's nobody you Because I did that fucking shit. It got past me. I was like, all right. You're not the only one. There's nobody you fucking ever know. Check it out.

Piece of history. We opened with Too Short in Monroe, Michigan. Yeah. That motherfucker was the one that told Jeff Fenster. Yeah. At Jive. I forgot about that. Yeah.

Hey, what did he say? He said, you got people mouth. And then Jeff Fenster, the A&R for Jive, flew in a sauce in Detroit. Shout out to Too Short. Shout out to Too Short. Mount Westmore, man. Mount Westmore. Hold on.

Let's be clear. Let's be clear. We love y'all. All right? But you telling me that Too Short went to. They did a show with him. They did a show with him. They did a show with him. He was doing it here.

Jeff Fenster. He was on the show. We did a show. He was like, yo, man, I seen this fucking insane shit open for me. Peeping out. Jeff Fenster. At Jive Records. Yeah.

And what's the connection with Detroit and the Bay? It seems like there's a connection between Detroit and the Bay. I don't know. I don't know. You know, it's the same sound. Same sound. Yeah. I don't know.

Yeah. There's something there. I know. Where does that come from, that connection? N2D used to be fucking hitting in Detroit, backing it back to the hotel, all that shit. Yeah, all that Bay shit. You're right, man. We'd be an ocean mob.

Remember that? Talk about, you know, rest in peace to Boss that passed away. Yeah, yeah. Of course. Actually, I did a song with her, Awesome Dre, the guy from Detroit back in there,

Awesome Dre. We did a remake. Yeah. Shout out to You Can't Hold Me Back. Yeah, big time, man. He was one of my biggest idols, man.

Come on, man. Awesome Dre. I could rap every lyric to every fucking song of his from that album. He was one of our most biggest influences besides Eshaan and the Ghetto Boys. It was Awesome Dre.

All three of them is actually. Before we got Eshaan on our record, we were going to pay Awesome Dre and Kid Rock to be on our shit. But we went to the studio and Eshaan was in the studio and we were like, yo, fuck that. You know what I'm saying? Eshaan was more. Well, Awesome Dre was on his way to the studio. And then so we called. We were like, hey, we're about to come up there.

We were like, we lost the reels. We found them. We lost the reels bullshit. We had Drake Managers. Who loses their fucking reels? Drake Manager? Not back then. You ain't losing those reels.

No, hell no. Check this out. Drake Manager had a briefcase handcuffed to his wrist. Yeah, he had a briefcase handcuffed to his wrist like a fucking movie. Like, what the fuck was in that briefcase? What, he had a meeting with a partner?

Some important ass business papers. He had a briefcase handcuffed to his wrist. I'm like, I don't give a fuck what's in there. Is that a piece of jewelry?

Fuck out of here. There wasn't nothing in that briefcase. No. There was nothing. Tech Niner Twister. What? Twister from Niner Twister. What? Twister from Chicago.

Twister? Twister. Twister. Tech Niner Twister. Or you can go further back and call him Tongue Twister. What the fuck? Man, I ain't got no comment. They're both the same thing.

I mean, I love them. They're so like that. You say both. Both. Yeah, there you go. Both. You got to take a shot. Come on. I gotta take a shot. Come on.

It's a shot. It's a deep. I'll have a shot. Now you do. There you go. There it is. Boom. Small shot.

Coño. I tell you. Busta or Luda? Busta. Gotta go Busta. Man, Busta all day, dog. Busta, you- Busta, Busta, Busta.

Come on, man. Where's the shit? Come on, man. Come on, man. Zulu's definitely dope, but he can't fuck with Buster. That's like Godzilla versus Frankenstein. Yeah, I don't think there's not too many motherfuckers on Earth that can fuck with Buster Reigns, dog. He's

fucking immaculate. Cash money or no limit? Oh, shit. I gotta go with no limit, man. Just because they're OG with it.it, man. Nope, like I said earlier. Just because they're OG with it. And they were first. They were OG with it, right.

Man, shout out to Master P, like I said earlier. Master P's a fucking genius, man. There are guys among us, bro. Straight fucking genius, dog. And Master P played the gathering. Yeah, he did. Oh, did he? Yeah, he did.

How did that go? He killed it. He expected it. He ate every fucking one of them human beings. Here's something funny. So fucking his son, every one of them. You know, here's something funny. So, fuck it. His son, little Romeo. Yeah.

So he he was on stage with Master P. Right. He's like, yo, where the bitch is that? Let me see that pussy. All this is like getting vulgar shit. Right. Like, like, like insane, like, like uncomfortably. You know what I'm saying?

Like it is fucking a week later. I saw his ass on Wendy Williams, like all like gentleman style, like talk about the show he was in and shit. I just thought it was funny, you know, because it was two different motherfuckers that I seen. Hold up, bro. You were just talking about open pussy holes. Right.

He's like, oh yeah, Wendy Williams. Maybe he got too consumed by the gathering. You see a bunch of naked ass motherfuckers walking around. Hey, you got to respect both. I'm going to be legit. This is real. If you guys haven't wanted to us any love, man, tell LL Cool J

we want to play fucking Rock the Bells. Tell Fat fucking, no disrespect, Fat Joe we fucking love him. Well, you're telling him right now, so let's go. Okay, tell hip-hopping around the world that that is what we are. We don't play no fucking instruments other than the studio.

I'm out right now with two turntables. You know what I'm saying? And a mic. That's it. We are hip-hop from the beginning. You know what I'm saying? Fuck Kiss. For real, we ain't moved by that fucking shit.

Fuck Kiss. No, I'm keeping real influenced by that fucking shit. Fuck Kiss. No, I'm keeping real. That got nothing to do with us. Right. You know what I'm saying? We don't give a fuck about that shit. But Detroit has always been a hotbed for that type of shit. Like Kiss blew up in Detroit before.

I mean, they're not even from Detroit, but they blew up there first. Prince blew up rocking nothing but panties and a trench coat because he was a gimmick. You see what I'm saying? Now, don't forget about the high heels. And the high heels. Detroit always been hot for gimmicks. So why do you think Detroit does that?

That's why Alex Cooper be like, Detroit. What's going on in Detroit? Nobody knows. Nobody knows. It's just always been like that. Right, yeah. Anybody that's gimmick heavy has always done great in Detroit. And it's weird because usually you use the words gimmick.

It's associated as a bad thing. No, man. It's from wrestling. Every motherfucker has a gimmick, dog. Everybody got a gimmick. Everybody has one. If you're a rapper or an artist and there was an action figure of you and nobody knows who the fuck that is, you're doing something wrong.

Look at Kumo D. Right. It's like shelter ego. It's like shelter D. Right, it's like Shelter Eagle. Shelter Eagle. Right, right. Everybody got a gimmick, something people recognize. You know what I'm saying? Right.

Even if you're fucking Pearl Jam, right? And you're like, we ain't got no gimmick. Motherfucker, that's your gimmick. Right. You're the fucking band with no gimmick. Motherfucker. Quit playing. You're the motherfuckers that don't make videos. You know what I'm saying? Now go play a ukulele and follow my personal

We love the fuck you yeah Wee-Woo. Yeah? You know what I mean, though. All right, we're almost done with this, I promise. We'll just let it go before we last. I'm calling Fat Joe. Hey, don't call him. He don't know who we are. I'm going to take a piss before Fat Joe talks to the people. He don't know who we are, bro. Yeah, he doesn't.

It's a clan party. Everybody knows who the fuck y'all are. Let me. Stop it, man. Oh, my God. Yo, Tracy Morgan. Yo, Tracy Morgan. He's Tracy Morgan.

Yo, Tracy Morgan. Yo, yo, yo. The legend. What, Tracy Morgan. Yo, yo, yo. What's going on? Yo, yo, yo. Ghostface gave you that? You got the Ghostface on. Yo, yo, yo, Tracy Morgan, you be playing my music. You got to relax.

Yo, yo, yo, listen, listen. We with the insane clown posse. Man, I've been rolling with Fat Joe since Fat Joe the Gangster. That's what I was just going to say, man. Fat Joe the Gangster days. Don't get them confused. That's the insane clown posse. Film this, film this.

Bro, you heard of us? I'm born. Bro, I come up from St. Thomas. What are you talking about? I'm talking about you while I'm coming up. Are you crazy? You guys are legends, man. Thank you, my brother.

Listen, listen. You better tell Tracy Morgan. Tell Tracy Morgan. Hold on. I need to talk for a second with Tracy Morgan. Turn around. Yo, Tracy. Don't rewatch me.

Live on Drink Chats. I'm kidding, Tracy. Live on Drink Chats. I'm being tracy. Live on Drink Champs. Let me tell him something. Yo, you way too rich. You way too rich for me to tell you. Get on the turnpike and look for a truck. Yeah, I'm going to get a half moon.

I'm going to get a half moon. Please, can you come to Drink Champs? Yo, I'm coming to get you. We're going on the turnpike with our B-shirts and we're going to look a half moon. I'm going to get a half moon, please. Can you come to the drink champs? Yo, I'm coming to get you. We going on the turnpike with our beach chairs and we going to look for an Amazon truck. I love you. Love you. Love you.

Yo, love you. I hate you tomorrow. Yo, yo. Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yo, yo. Yo, let me tell you something, bro.

My brother. Hip-hop loves you. That's not true, man. Look at the sores. You know, look at all the years. They might now. I'm sorry, bro. They do now.

Do you think that? I think now, yeah. Not, didn't always. Look at that. Worldstar puts our shit up. You're right, you're right. You know what I'm saying? Worldstar puts our new videos up and shit.

Fuck yeah, man. They might. But yeah, it feels good, man. Like, you know, Fat Joe said something to you, brah. Right, yeah. No, in the past, just recently, he said, I'm making the best music of my life. And you were like, motherfucker, he say that every year. Remember that?

Yes, I did say that. He said, yeah, but there's no pressure now. There's no pressure now. Yeah. I'm a motherfucking legend it's the hardest shit hearing you two you guys are whispering to each other he said there's no pressure now

Fat Joe said I'm making the best music in my life I heard that there's no pressure now I'm a legend it's like us Joey we don't give a fuck about racing and trying to be young and trying to be seen as we've accepted we've accepted being homeschool you know we we already did all that now it's just us in the art yeah i'll tell

you something i'll tell you the same thing as fat joe it feels so good being accepted by hip-hop because because i grew up hip-hop you know what i'm saying that that was my whole come up you know what i'm saying and and so it feels it feels great being accepted by Alone come to town Joey take his daughter out there. Yeah, I give him a jersey He fucking wears that shit on stage and on that shit. Yeah fucking feels great, man We remember everybody looked at us like a battle like an enemy you know what i'm saying all through our career but now people know we ain't in that fight no more you know i'm saying we did this so everybody's like okay i don't see you as competition or some sort of threat i don't i'm

not alleging that everybody thinks that way but you get what i'm saying everybody's like you motherfuckers made it better around so so fucking long fucking long. I think that, you know, it's undeniable when people accept us now. You know what I'm saying? Back in the day, like Jay was saying, it's an uphill battle. You know what I'm saying? It was. You know what I mean? But we got to a point where I think it was just undeniable because we've been consistent for 30 years.

You know what I mean? We never fucking stopped and took a hiatus or no shit, you know? We don't give a fuck no more. We don't tour like that no more, man. We ain't trying to fucking make a name. But you on the tour. Huh?

No, we just do anything. I'm on tour right now. Have you guys gone overseas? I just flew in from Arkansas. Remember I wanted to tell you something? Yeah. We're doing a Maury reveal.

Let's go. I like to be a part of it. I told Joey earlier today, I said, man, I want to tell you something. I could tell you now or I could tell you on the show. It's nothing negative. It's nothing dark. It's nothing personal.

But it's something that, like, been consuming my life lately. You know, I said, it's the shine. It's not negative. And he was like, man, tell. I said, your natural reaction to what I'm telling you might be cool on the show you know he was like all right tell me on the show fuck it that's cool man check it out we want a documentary done about our our story we're not in time we want our entire legacy told you know i'm saying i'm not talking about no two-hour bitch-ass piece. I'm talking about

like Wu-Tang guy. You know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah, it deserves that. You know what I'm saying? We want our story told. That's the only thing I want to see before I die.

You know what I'm saying? That's the only thing I want to see. Relax, bro. They already have some ideas. That's all we want, right? And, um... Yeah, man.

So, so... what was I saying? You're going to unveil something. The big reveal, man. Oh, that's right. That's right. Jesus Christ, you forgot it? So, we're talking to Vice. We're talking to Vice.

You know what I'm saying? To Vice? Vice Network. But this is because Vice is kind of... They called us for the dark side of the ring. Right. You know what I mean? You ever heard of that?

No. And we were like, man, that's cool. But they were like, okay, we want to do the episode on you guys wrestling. I was asking them, we want to do a documentary about our life. And they were like, all right, well, we can take that shit, make a sizzle, and sell it to somebody else. Right. Yep. They don't even want that advice.

They're like, we're going to sell it to Hulu or some shit, right? Anyway, the point is, once I'm fucking done with that, Joey, once that, you know, we're talking about like a three-year project

from now or something. Of course, yeah. Man. That's it. Thank you. All I want, like, it's not, I don't know,

it's not a fact yet, but like, all I want to do is finish the, the Six Joker, I mean mean the three, you know, the three decks because that's therapy to me. I'll never stop making music. Yeah, of course.

Why would we? I need that. Yeah, of course. I'm waiting for the big reveal. But in three years, you know, after that that, I'm guessing three years, five years, whenever the fuck that dot comes out. Right. Right, I'm sorry.

After that, man, I don't want to do fucking, I'll be honest, bro, I'm tired of fucking Rudy texting me like, what do you think of these designs? It's one of our dudes, you know. Rudy's dry. he's cool you know but i'm tired of all that you know what i'm saying i'm tired of like i'm not tired of it that's not true all of this juggalo everything but i've been fantasizing about a life before i die that has nothing to do with any of that. That's respectable. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Me too. Every day of vacation, man. How cool would it be to live something else? That's called retirement. Before I die, right? You know what I mean?

And bro, I want to buy an orangutan. That's the reveal. No, it is, bro. I'm not kidding. I'm the father of an orangutan. Listen to me. No, I'm, bro. I'm the father of an orangutan. No, I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding.

I seen an orangutan fucking another orangutan. This is on like a nature special. And he was sitting Indian style and had the bitch in the book. Right. Straight up. Just crazy shit I've seen. It's been fucking human. I mean, don't get me started on this thing.

I ain't want to get into orangutans. I don't want to get into it. I went by an orangutan jungle school in Indonesia. A little farm, right? God, you got this mapped out. I'm listening. This is serious, though, right? It is, man. I'm dead serious.

Okay. These motherfuckers are mowing down all the fucking, you know, orangutans aren't an endangered species, right? They're mowing down what little land they got left and all the moms are terrified by these fucking machinery and they're abandoning their kids, right? These little orangutans don't know how to fucking be an orangutan, so they build these little fucking villages in Indonesia. Not a

village, a fucking farm, you know what I mean? Yeah, probably watching the orangutans fucking. And they teach orangutans, these human beings come to the place every day. You know what I'm saying? They work a shift. And they teach these orangutans how to be an orangutan. They teach them how to crack coconuts.

They teach them how to feed snakes. You know what I'm saying? What's funny? No, no, no. Teaching an orangutan how to crack a coconut. That's what you're going to do? So you're going to be teaching the orangutan? He's going to be the orangutan teacher.

Man, I love orangutans, bro. I'm trying to be serious with you. All right. Like, I love primates. Like, they're like... Yeah, we got one question left. But we got to get to the bottom of the orangutan. Let's go.

Come on, fuck that. Let's go. What's the next one? Do you want that one more question? I just want to know, is that that was it? The orangutan is where you're going with it? No, I'm still going to do the gathering of the jugglers every day.

I'm still going to do Halloween. You know what I'm saying? Every Halloween. I don't want to do like juggler weekend and shit. You want to get your life back, bro. You want to be you without a fucking Christmas party and all that. I want to be in Indonesia fucking. We've been on the grind since we were teenagers.

You know what I'm saying? Like I was just saying, I ain't never been on vacation until like three years ago ever. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, yeah, I mean, that's where that shit. Joy, that's real shit, man. I mean it, man. Hell yeah, man. You know, still doing Halloween.

You're still doing the gathering. Still doing the albums. But man, I'm it, man. Oh, yeah, man. You know, still doing Holloway, still doing The Gathering, still doing our albums. But, man, I'm not saying I'm going to live in Indonesia. I just want to purchase the farm and spend some time out there, you know

what I mean? Chill with some orangutans. But I'm going to live in a D and you can call me fool. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, man, I just think about, like, being

out there. It's too fucking hot, though. What the fuck going on? I'm a ginger. I'm so motherfucking white. I don't even know where the fuck I'm from. Fuck Germany, Poland.

I think I'm from fucking the north and the south. When we were kids, we'd say he's Norwegian. We'd be like, big ass Norwegian. I'm so fucking white, I can't even stand the sun. I burn instantly. Last question for quick time with slime is it loyalty

or respect respect man I think loyalty comes with respect you know what I'm saying if if you are real with motherfuckers and you don't hold them up

you know what I'm saying you get that respect from them of course they're going to be loyal to you you know what i'm saying because you they're going to love you you know what i'm saying and love is better than being hated on any day you know let me tell you something i disagree with you joey there is nothing more important than loyalty bro loyalty till i die i got whatever but you get loyalty with respect, though. Of course. Loyalty is the ultimate goal. Would you rather loyalty without respect? Being respected?

Respect is what you earn and whatever you initiate it. But the ultimate fucking goal is loyalty, bro. Respect. I respect that. Earned from respect. Loyalty. You believe in this motherfucker. You love him. Loyalty, man. in this motherfucker. You love him.

Loyalty, man. Fuck anything else. To me, it's the only thing I want. So I guess we're drinking. I got faith in this. I always say, I think the easy answer is both. I want both the motherfuckers. Huh? What?

What are you talking about? Yes, we're going to take the shot. Take the shot. I ain't drinking no more, man. I ain't even drunk. I don't know why you said that. You want some of this shit? Here, here. Loyalty is everything to me, Joey. Listen. No, because you said shot. Take a shot. I ain't drinking no more, man. I ain't even drunk. I don't know why you said that. You want some of this shit? Here, here.

Loyalty is everything to me, Joey. Listen. No, because you said loyalty. I said respect. Right, but right. So does that count as both? It doesn't matter. We're just going to drink.

It's the last question anyways. Let's just drink to it. It is both. Listen. Y'all disagree. Y'all agree to disagree. I got face tats. Loyalty is the only thing I'm getting down the side of my face right here. Letters,

loyalty. Then I'm done. You know what I'm saying? Loyalty is everything to me. The entire Fred Furrier was about loyalty, man. I mean, respect is earned. I mean, respect is important as loyalty, but loyalty is what

the goal of respect is. I trust you, motherfucker. I respect the shit out of you. Now, I would die for you. Because you got respect. Konya, just give me loyalty and respect, please. Right, do the same thing. That's it.

I'll take both. That was slow time with Slime. Slow time. We've had plenty of slow time with slime. Any last words, slime? All I got to say is let's stick it in the pictures. Stick it in the pictures. Yo, thank you guys for coming through, man.

We really appreciate y'all, man. We're coming all the way down here. By the way, this is the last thing here. This is y'all house. Once y'all know. This is y last thing here. Oh yeah. This is your house. Ooh. I want y'all to know. This is your house. And when it come time for y'all to do your own ICV,

you make sure you come to DCV. Huh? I get it, but I don't. Means let's work together. That's what that means. Let's work. Let's go. You fucking with workhorses over here, man. I love it, man. Hey!

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