Drink Champs - Episode 419 w/ DJ Quik & Jason Martin aka Problem

Episode Date: July 19, 2024

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legends themselves, DJ Quik & Jason Martin aka Problem! DJ Quik & Problem join us to share their journey in hip-hop!  The guys talk about working with legendary artists, the evolution of their own careers as producers AND artist and much more!  Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!! Make some noise for DJ Quik & Problem!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆   *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. legendary Queens rapper. Hey, hey, it's your boy N.O.R.E. He's a Miami hip-hop pioneer. One of his DJ EFN. Together, they drink it up with some of the biggest players in the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one source

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What it good be over here with the Simpity Sip Boy N-O-R-E. What up, it's DJ E-F-N. And this is Drink Champs motherfucking Yappy Yawa makes up night! When I tell you we started this show,

we said we wanted to give people that's legends, the people that paved the way, people that came before us, people that's coming right after us or with us. This episode today, man, I'm so excited, man. I couldn't sleep at one point, man, because I'm going through these two brothers' discography by themselves. Then I'm thinking about what they're doing together, two projects that they had together,

and what I'm thinking about how good it sounds, how musically music, like when I'm listening to it, I'm like, this is music bro, like the new album, Chupacabra which, you know, I had a song called Chupacabra Holy Moly Guacamole that album is so fucking phenomenal and if you want to feel how it

feels to listen to global music that happened to be made in the West Coast that album is it, so in case you don't know who the fuck we talking about, we talking about motherfuckers the legendary I call DJ motherfucking Quint. That's motherfucking problem.

I can't tell you how dope it was listening to this project, how refreshing it is because it's like it's music. It's like, it's music. It's dope. It's music. It's content.

You motherfuckers, it's funny. You know what I'm saying? And you're keeping it West Coast. Who idea was that for y'all two to come together? It's this guy. You got the hash button?

I get to play with my fucking hero, man. I'm going to do it. You know what I'm saying? Okay. This time around was purely accidental, though. He just bought a new crib. You know what I'm saying? Okay. This time around was purely accidental, though. He just bought a new crib. You know, he do rich nigga shit all the time.

Yeah, it's all the time. He ended up tapping in with me, like, what you doing? I was recording. He like, pull up. I was like, fuck it. I'm going to come through. I packed up my studio and went over there. He's like, you got your studio with you?

Right. Like, all the time. Wait, wait, wait. Talk about something. Yo, when he FaceTimed me, I was recording in my office. He's like, what you doing? I'm like, just jotting down some ideas and shit. He's like, man, bring that shit over.

He had an empty new house. I had carpenters in their building. So they're in there hammering, tearing down walls and shit. My nigga came and popped up in the living room and set the shit down. I'm like, my nigga got the studio mobile. Like, I didn't think of that. Then he just started banging out. Some shit started coming out there.

I started getting the little, what you call that? The cleft palate. Nigga was like, ah! What is that? This thing is like. Yeah, man. He allowed me to be me, bro. And then I just told him, like, man,

we're going to make it as easy as possible, man. My guy Jay Worthy came in and helped and our situation, and it just became. Shout out to Jay Worthy. Our Jay Worthy, our executive producer. Yeah, one of the 40 Days of Madness,

man, the album came out. So let me ask, right, because one of my favorite things about doing this show is asking the artists what they're drinking.

So when I asked, they said, y'all was drinking Ace of Spades. Yeah. That's true, right? Yeah. So we're going to drink some Ace of Spades.

So this is what I want to do. I've never done this on a show. I've been having this bottle in my house for years. I've never brought this bottle out. Y'all said, I'm a champagne drinker. But when other artists say they're going to drink vodka, I drink vodka

with them. So I was so happy. I was like, yeah, these motherfuckers got class. So I said, let me not only bring a spade, but let me bring one of these special bottles. Look, look, that is, I want to show them from that. That is from Cartier. That is from Cartier.

It's not from Cellar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I got some rich niggas here too, you know what I'm saying? I wanted to drink this with y'all brothers, you know what I'm saying? You can't even buy that. Yes, yes.

So we went out, got glasses and shit. We tried to show, we tried to, you know, make sure y'all brothers. You know what I'm saying? You can't even buy that. Yes, yes. So we went out, got glasses and shit. We tried to make sure y'all right. We got fancy up here. Yeah, we got fancy. So let me ask y'all, man. The West Coast feels so much, I don't want to say back, right? Because it's not like y'all left somewhere.

But it's just like, it's like a euphoric energy that's out there right now. It's like, you understand what I'm trying to say? It feels unified. It feels unified. It feels like... You understand what I'm trying to say? It feels unified. It feels like a rebirth, though. Not only unification.

It feels like a rebirth. It just felt so good. How do y'all feel? How are you feeling about that? Ah, shit, man. I think it kicked off with Ty Gollison early in the year with Kanye. And the Dog Pound.

Yeah, that's right. You know what I'm saying? Then that's coming with our project and then Kendrick just fucking taking over the world. Right. Yeah, it all kind of just happened. Like, nobody kind of knew

what was going on. And shit, man, y'all got to see us all together for the first time. Even like while we were doing the pop-out, like the Dog Pound, DJ Quick, and Snoop

was in Canada. Canada, yeah. Together. Oh, that's dope. That's dope. Like, while my regime and Snoop was in Canada. Canada, yeah. Together. Oh, that's dope. That's dope. While my regime was doing what we was doing at home, they were back together in Canada, and it just looked crazy to the outside world. You know what I'm saying?

Like, whoa, look at everybody's working. I can't really say a time where the younger guys were working, the OGs and the vets. So it's kind of like we jumped y'all a little bit on accident. If that makes sense. Yes, sir. How do you feel quick about that? Man, it's, you know, me being trying to be reclusive and kick back and just stay out in the cut. To be outside is crazy to me. Like I'm actually outside.

Right. And people are approaching me. People are approaching me like, yo, man, you don't understand. It's good to see you outside. And I'm like, it's this nigga. This nigga got me all out of here and shit. You know what I'm saying? What's that, 34 years for you?

Yeah, 33, yeah. 33? Okay, make some noise for that. Listen, man, motherfuckers can't last six months out here. Man. Man. Oh, whoo. That shit sounded good.

I was going to say, you got to get it on camera. But look, she smart. She got it on camera. That's right, goddammit. So hold on, hold on. So let's get into the new album, right? One thing I liked it, well, I loved, is the sound sounds new and classic at the same time. Say that.

At the same time. It's like, you can't, you know it's classic. You know it's classic. But it's also that new flavor. You know what I'm saying? So this is a question that I think I know the answer. Did y'all make the project together? Meaning like y'all was in the same studio at the same time? We had to be.

Yeah, it felt that way. That's what I told you. Remote recording is a great concept where you got Jigga on the East Coast. You got Rick Ross or Rick Rock on the West, and they just send the files, and we'll mix it. There's no synergy with that. You know what I mean? It's semantics. It's work.

It's like, yeah, we got the vocals. All right, go ahead. Upload them. And they start putting their plug-ins on. Send it back. Y'all like it? Man, take some of the plugins you know it's what but when you right there doing it and y'all agree immediately it makes the project move that much faster because we'll play with a song and it'll be like that's enough we ain't got to do shit else

we'll do something right away like you know if he need to change a vocal i go out of the room i go in there and start cooking making tacos or whatever my man's in there you know he's a power of Pro Tools power use here and it's typing quiet turn to the mic what he's like alright I got that then I'll come and change it cuz we got two different styles of using Pro Tools I'll switch it back to my way and be short key I'll be trying to show you my short cuz he's like I learned it one way I'm keeping it one way okay I'm gonna see how your business then and it's celebrity start popping up and, I'm keeping it one way. Okay, I understand your business. Then, niggas, celebrities start popping up and shit. I'm in there, this nigga in there, what?

Wes come in, the gang, what? You know what I'm saying? My fuckers is walking in. So even the features was done together? Goddamn right. Everybody came to the house. Everything was done in 40 days, bro. I like to call it like elevated nostalgia.

It's like we want to make sure that the album started with what Quick's fan base is known for, but with using newer sounds. And then me thinking of where the West is about to go, or where the world's about to go, that's where you get the case analysis, the channel traces on the second half. So everything was done intentionally. As far as the features though, like the ones that are people from LA, they came. But Jay Worthy, bro, you're going to hear his name a lot in this interview. Once we brought him in to do like the A&R stuff, I would get a call like, yo, send me that beat. And then a day later, a currency feature pop up. Or

send me that other one. Larry June feature will pop up. Send me that other one. CeeLo will pop up. And you're like, oh, shit. So now we're like building around them. The features, yeah. Yeah, we're FaceTiming. I'm FaceTiming Lil Jon like, oh, how you want to do this? Boom, boom, boom. Bro, that 40 days was madness. I've never done an album like that ever. You forgot, Lil Jon was preparing for the Super Bowl, so he didn't have time.

Wow. But made time to be on that workout. Wow. He said that back, he was like, yeah, I wish I could have more time. I would have gave it to you. Man, he was crazy. He was like, yo, bro, that's for rushing me right now,

but I'm finna send you over. I'm like, at the time, I don't know what he talking about. I'm like, all right, well, I'm gonna take what you got. Next week, this nigga. This nigga on the Super Bowl. The week before his biggest moment, he's sending us something

for Chupacabra, bro. I couldn't believe it, bro. Shout out to John. Goddamn, Sean. Shout out to John, bro. But coming into this project, knowing, you know, and this is a question for you,

knowing Quick's history, right? You know that he's done all legendary shit. He's done all iconic shit. Was that like a burden on your back? Because you don't want to be the one project that

But y'all had a relationship already, right? Y'all were cool, but not like brand new. This fucked up the legacy. Right, right, right. It's not a lot on you. Honestly, it's like

it was the complete opposite. You can't fuck it up when you're around something this great because he's not going to let you. He'll stop you. Honestly, it's like, it was the complete opposite. Like, you can't fuck it up when you're around something this great, because he's not going to let you. He'll stop you. Like, nah. Nah. Nope. I'm not putting my name on this if it don't work. I've seen him do it with other artists.

So I knew what it was going in. And you know what I'm saying? And he knows where I want to go. And he knows I'm ready to push the limit. Like, he the one who reminds me to stay dangerous when we do music. Wow. So long as I stay under the tutelage of what he's been teaching me since we met in 06, 07. Right.

Like, nah. I'm like, nah. And plus, at the fuck, I'm telling you, it was a new house, bro. I walk in and he hadn't put the plaques up yet. So they were just stacked all up on his fireplace. And I'm talking about All Eyes On Me right here. Janet Jackson right here. Black Album right here. Janet Jackson right here. Black album right here.

No, there's no way in hell we're not going to make an amazing album with this type of vision in front of me every fucking day, bro. Hell of a vision board right here. There's like 200 million in plaques right here every day. Then he's making five tacos. He's popping

champagne and he just made it feel like, he let me make it feel like it was my home, bro. And it just, for me, it was like, this is the reason why I do music, bro. I'm a young kid from Compton. Listening to Safe and Sound so I won't get in trouble on the low. And for him, first time I even got to really see him. But Terrace Martin brought this nigga to my house at one in the morning. They were working on Ego Trippin'. He's like, yo, I got to pee.

I'm like, what you mean? Just open the door. This nigga come running in my house in Compton in 2008. He's like, I got to pee blood. At the time, I ain't worth shit. I'm like, oh, my God, nobody's going to believe this nigga quick as in this house peeing, bro. So I had to take a picture by my mom's face because it was like 1 in the morning. So then my nigga say Hey Blood you hungry?

I'm like yeah I'm about to go make homemade pasta And homemade pies from scratch You want to go to the studio? We went to the grocery store This nigga literally made pasta from scratch And apple pies that night I swear to God

This was my first real encounter with him I swear Your idol cooked for'm just a bull in the easy here. We should go talk to my brother. I swear. Your idol cooked for you. It was 1 in the morning. He's flying through Compton. I, of course, I don't know what they were doing. They were doing something.

You're doing cocaine. There it is. But they came by to wash it off here. Oh, good. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. Cheers, cheers, cheers.

All right, cheers. Cheers, cheers, cheers. By the way, I love to chat, baby. I've been saving this shit for so long for a special moment. And this is a special moment, cheers. Cheers, cheers, cheers. Cheers, cheers, cheers. By the way, I love the chat, man. I've been saving this shit for so long for a special moment, and this is a special moment, man. This is a special moment. He left out something important. Okay.

After I came out, washed up, came out of the bathroom, I look up, and this nigga got a studio in the den. Like, I had. That's how I came up. Like, Quiggsy's name was done in a kitchen nook with my turntables on an ironing board. So I seen him with it. I'm like, you know, bro, remember? Yeah. Like, Quiggsy's name was done in a kitchen nook with my turntables on an ironing board. So I seen him with it. I'm like, you know, bro, remember?

Yeah. I was like, you got a studio up there. You showing me a little shit on Pro Tools? I'm like, yeah, I'm going to learn that. But we got to go back to the studio. Hey, pull up. I had one of my partners, you know what I'm saying, that used to do the things he used to do. He knew I did music.

So he came by one day and just like, bro, hey, bro, I got all this equipment. I don't know what you need, but just take what you need. So I started building this studio. So you engineer yourself? Yeah, engineer. All the producer first. So yeah, engineer, mix. Not like this, though.

Two to the level that I can get it to. So sufficient when it comes to that. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Well, quick, let me ask you a question. I guess it's a two-part question. Because it never seemed like you had a dry time. It just seems like you've always

been, for lack of a better term, that nigga. Thank you, bro. You've always been that nigga. And not only that, it always seemed like you was never out of the loop. Sometimes when a person can continue to be that person, they won't relate to the new generation or they'll be out of the loop or something.

How do you maintain that? Because to me, it seems like you're in the loop and you've never kind of like fell off or had a dry spell. That shit is amazing to me. I appreciate that. You know, I just looked at, you know, we have our times to be effective in hip hop.

And sometimes some of us push it too much and put out records a little too early just because we caught a wave with the last record you want to cash in. I did that one time. I followed rhythmalism with Balancing Options and I didn't quite finish Balancing Options plus my homeboy Mossberg was murdered

during the time I was making that record. So I didn't finish it with the, my thing is quality. I love quality control. I love making sure shit sound good and last forever. That's my whole thing. But when that part came and I put out that record and it didn't go good, it didn't plaque. That was my first record that didn't plaque.

So that was like a signal to Aarist, like, uh-oh, hit a wall, that's it. You said Aarist, though? Yeah, I was on Aarist. Clyde Davis was my boss. Shout out to Clyde. So then I asked for a release. I was like, maybe it's time. Maybe it's time for me to sit down.

I got a record that didn't plaque and I you know being a kid I should have shut the fuck up and just sat down and saved my budget till later

till when it was time but um I stopped doing my shit and then just started fucking with everybody else like I just went underground got a release from Arista

then went start fucking with Dr. Dre with the Eminem and 50 Cent shit and I started I went fucking with um R&B shit. I was like,

Dina Howard and, you know, Deborah Cox and Janet Jackson. And, you know, I just was just producing like, like fucking, I'm just stay underground

and, you know, pull up to these studios and a little, you know, the little E class biz, not the big ass, you know, jumping out with a drum machine.

I even moved to fucking New York for three years, bro, in 2000 before the towers fell. Really? I was living in Chelsea Village, son. Wow. Fucking, wow. I was on 6th and 27th.

I was on Avenue of the Americans and 27th Street. So a person is looking and saying that, like, because, like, again, your career is just a luxurious, man. You know what I'm saying? And there's so many people

who are here on Monday that'll be gone on Wednesday. I'm saying? And there's so many people who are here on Monday that'll be gone on Wednesday. I'm afraid to say that. And you've last had this crazy career. If a kid is looking at that right now and saying, I want to basically be behind DJ Quick, what advice would you say to them? Oh, man, it's a tough road,

but you have to keep believing in what you do, even if don't nobody else believe it, because sometimes you have to make them understand that they need to believe in what you're doing. And they'll do that with your being consistent. After a while, it's like, if you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten, you know what I'm saying? Or I'm sorry, join them.

And I think you mentioned quality. I think that's a key thing too to you. Like everything you put out is quality and it's the consistency of the quality. A lot of people don't, they don't care about the quality.

It just might not be consistent. No quality at all. But your stuff always sounded good. It was on point. It always was, the quality was right there. That was one of the best things about the album too

was the sequencing and you know, how you know it was all put together. how you like it all sounded clear it's just got you over here it didn't sound it didn't sound it's not like your engineer was working yeah right we were i mean i think i think the beauty of us both being engineers um um makes it where you're not waiting or having to tell somebody your ideas it's's like if he hears something, he can like, hey, get up here, I got it. And then he can execute it and then go back to what he's doing. If I'm like, hey, I want to make this delay clap like this, he'll just hop up, sit down, whoop.

So it made it go real fast. And the luxury already, he's DJ quick, but we're doing a song, and it's probably about to get mixed right when we're done. Right. So it just cuts the time down. You know what I'm saying saying the signal flow is going in perfect because all the clocks he got and if he gets to talking clocks and and and synergy of what a to d g to a the way it goes through you know bro it's to the point where we'd have to mix shit like i'm already going in mixed as he dialed in my voice it was crazy it was crazy he's on one he's on to one um i bought

some different kind of preamps. Was that a shot you just took? Yeah, man. What was that? Can't tell you. That was like Drew Champ's cheek coaching. That was dope. That was dope. I'm into the engineering side of it.

What the hell was that? Talking about the clocks. You know, I'm into the engineering side of it. Right. That just threw me off. What the hell was that? What was he talking about? He was talking about the clocks. Oh, yeah. So, you know, you got to spend a little money to get these records to sound like as best they can. Like, some of us try to go back to the way shit used to sound with, you know, the tapes. But that shit is like, it's just not economical.

It's just, you can't pull a tape machine in your fucking house. But you can get these cool preamp So I bought these new preamps cuz I'm like if we're gonna do a new record Let's go for a whole new sound. I mean we've been using this shit for the longest. This is getting dated I bought new fucking a two D's bought a new fucking Vibe was called a little preamp iso one little new Neve or focus, right? We got new microphones We plug in the shit in

testing testing test test test and the shit sound like how this shit sound right now it just sounded super dumb ass clean and when it's clean it's like

you just come up with these other ideas cause it's like this don't sound like the Neumann you know microphone I'm using like in 85 when I'm doing

safe and sound this is some new bright tube clean shit so you know it was another sound. So we did it with the music, too. We just went to another pool of music, another pool of samples.

Like, let's match this whole new microphone sound with these new sounding beats. And this guy quarterbacked that. We got some like-minded people, though, too. Like, Dominique Sanders, I want to shout him out. That boy's so bad. He came in and did a lot of heavy lifting production-wise with us. Right. Crazy cat out of fucking Kansas City.

Yeah, he is. But he knew the language. Right. So where we, I would say we're probably older than him, he knew the way we were dialing in the way we dial in. He'll be sitting over there in the cut having his whiskey on a computer doing Hamilton, speeding up the shit we need sped up, and just be like, all right, now plug in.

Yeah. When you got three guys that's already understanding the rhythm, by song three, that's why we end up with 40-something records. Yeah, y'all was working. And vocally, though, y'all, lyrically, it was there. Y'all was challenging each other. How was that doing the vocals and lyrically coming out the records? To be a little candid, this nigga know me. I'm in the back room on my ps5 killing motherfuckers on sniper elite 5 and shit knocking their eyeballs

out and then he'll i'll hear something and i'll run in there my fucking jordan shorts was like hey hey let me hear that play that look turn that up that nigga turned up and be like okay cool so i'll be in there thinking writing and he'll be like hey it's ready for vocals i'll go in there jump on the mic sit down record my vocals to match what i'm hearing like let me jump in this shit it's almost like you know it's like double dutch it's like fucking it was really about somebody jump in but it was crazy too one time we were working on the beat like me and dominique were doing something and we think the house is quiet you know i'm saying i'm just doing a drum. We doing it. I'm riding the hood. And then I just hear from the back, yo, go down, down, down drums.

Like, I thought this thing was sleeping. I said, huh? He came walking out. Look, down, down, down drums. Here, take this little one. He found it. He's like, all right, put those in there. And then walk back like some Yoda shit.

So I just did it. I'm like, all right, put those in there and then walked back like some Yoda shit so I just did it I'm like alright put them in there and was he right but I'm like how the fuck did he know he's on the game

with headphones I don't even know how he heard us in there the song was calling for that because of the melody like this was some some shit that Dom had wrote

and then we ultimately ended up getting the free nationals on it because it's just so open it's just on the too high waves George Clinton Wiz ended up getting the free nationals on it because it's just so open it's just on the Too High Waves George Clinton

Wiz end up hopping on it yeah Too High I sent my notes man my man so go to my bad my bad hold on let me ask

let me ask something because I seen you say in an interview that one of the illest people that you was in the studio with was Tupac right so it made me think about it today

what would a Tupac and Problem record sound like man it's man it just gave me chills thinking about that it's funny because this nigga is Tupac, right? So it made me think about it today. What would a Tupac and problem record sound like? Man, it just gave me chills thinking about that. It's funny because this nigga's Tupac Jr. So Pac would have been

trying to son him first. I knew you was going to say that. That's why I asked that question. He would have been sonning him first. You know, and then he would have, after he sonned him and made him respect him,

then he would have showed you his shit in the vault. He was like, hey, give me something for this or help me write this. I've never seen him ask anybody to help him write anything, but for some reason he give me something for this or help me write this. I've never seen him ask anybody to help him

write anything, but for some reason, he probably would have trusted you to help him write shit. Like, take the work off of him. That's a big, big break. I only came back knowing. That's crazy to hear, bro.

That shit, that's very humbling to hear. Right, because I heard you say like how relentless he was in the studio. Like, he didn't really care. Like, he just wanted to keep working, keep working.

Y'all never seen that nigga work? And I feel like that same energy from him. That's why I asked that question. Yeah. So you said... They the same energy. Okay, hot.

You see what I... Taurus. Damn, close enough. Okay. Did you dig that? I would never. I mean, as confident as I am, I would never think in my life

to be compared to... He's been trying to jump in. I'm not comparing the content. I would never think In my life To be compared to He's been trying to Jump in I'm not comparing the content I'm comparing the work ethic That's what I'm saying I wasn't there to see it You know what I'm saying

I've watched it Through the TV screen And through stories You know what I'm saying And I We all thrived To be that Like as young MCs

Like god damn This nigga's a monster Like in seven years He did more than Niggas that been here 50 years. Like, bro, so you had to have been working all day to have them type of movies and four and five albums that changed the world. So all us young West Coast MCs were like, we want to do what he's doing with it. Todd's doing what Snoop's doing.

But to hear that is crazy. Well, because you're an outlaw, bro. You act like you do the same shit that what he wanted the outlaws to do. He was trying to train them to be like a militant ass hip-hop band. But that's what you do naturally. You militant, you smash the white niggas.

I'm on white niggas' heads. I play no games. I think the closest thing that we got to that as far as impact, I would say DMX. But as far as work ethic, I'm going to be honest with you. I would say pun, but then we lost pun, but I would say little Wayne. Cause little, like, like, like everyone says that he just, he just doesn't want to leave the studio.

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Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So, boom. God comes down. Says, quick, I want you to produce All in the Same Gang 2024. Right now. And, and. You like this, right? You know where I'm going. And you can use whatever West Coast artist there is.

Dead or alive. No, no, no, no, no. Let's do one version alive right now. Let's do alive and then dead or alive next. But let's do alive right now. Well, first of all,

I wouldn't even try to produce it. I would... Let me see if I can call. Call Andre Young. Dr. Dre, look at him. Andre Young. That's going to be the first call I make. Like, Dre? Yo, what up, quick? Hey man, they want to do all in the same gang, 20-25, bro.

Like, we got J-worthy, we got Kendrick, we got Abso, we got Child Tress, we got, of course, this guy, Krob, and who else should I call? Shit. There's one more name. One more name. One more is tough. There's like seven groups in the original Insane Game.

One more is tough. One more is super tough. Who else would it be? Roddy Ricch. Would you do Roddy Ricch? Definitely Roddy. But the one more would be tough because I would want to hear the Tyler creator. Yeah. I would want to hear Doja Cat. Doja Cat's from California?

Yeah. Really? Yeah, she's from California. Damn. I would want to hear, like you said, you said Dom already. Mm-hmm. I would want to hear, like you said, you said Dom already. Mm-hmm. I would want to hear Ajit Pariko. I would want to hear Meet the Woops, Jay Worthy, like you said.

That'd be banged out. All of the Black Hippie. That song would have to be 25 minutes long. Yeah, because everybody got something to say now. They want 15 minutes and 50 seconds of fame now. They want to hold on to it and ride it. Not as many groups anymore, but at least in that, the first one, you had NWA and Digital Underground. Yep, those are the two groups.

Absolutely. Yeah. How many people was on the original? That was my next question. That's crazy. I was about to ask you. I was waiting for you all to finish. How many people was on the original all in the same game?

Because I know there was a version that was on video. I mean, that's a fact check. It's back there. That's why it's an album version. We just had Young MC on here. He said that. And he got a question for you, too. Yeah, he said that.

Michelle A. He had an eight-minute verse. Yeah. No, he said an eight-bar verse. There was two versions of it. There was two versions of it. He said he had an eight-bar verse, and then he had a 16-bar verse. So, obviously, for the longer version, they cut it to eight.

I think it was like eight, nine. One thing I didn't know, there was 16 people? Oh, no, no, no. They can pull that off. They can pull that off. 16 people, yeah. And then they cut it down to the real version. They can pull to eight. I think it was like eight, nine. One thing I didn't know, it was 16 people. Oh, no, no, no. Y'all can pull that off. They can pull that off. 16 people, yeah. And then they cut it down to the ring. Y'all can pull that off.

How many verses? Because you count the groups. King T. King T, yeah. Def Jeff. Richelaine Tolo, Above the Law, Ice, Dr. Dre. Above the Law, another group. JJ Phan, Young MC.

JJ Phan, another group. FCM, AC. Crazy story about we all in the same gang. I was able to get the tape before it came out. So, Michael Conception used to date my auntie. Get the fuck out of here. So, I remember when he pulled up on 97th Street by Jesse Owens Park. And my pops, he was like, this nigga right here.

I'm like, what's going on? That was the first time I ever seen a Mercedes Benz that you could drive by hand. Because he was paralyzed. And he got out the car, and they got him out the car. He went and said, what's up to my grandparents or whatever. He's like, man, here you go, young thing. He gave me the We All In the Same CD and the tape and his 3X t-shirt

that I couldn't fit. I'm asking my dad, who is that guy? He was like, well, yeah, he was one start to Crips over here and this, this, and that. Then to fast forward to now find out Top is his nephew and all that ass shit. Wait, Top is Micah? Yeah, that's his nephew. That's his nephew?

Yeah, Top, Micah Conception is Top's uncle. Oh, wow. Six degrees. Oh, this West Coast shit is crazy for real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember because I had posted, we all in the same gang, and I had told the story. And then Punch hit me like, you family, family, huh? I'm like, what you mean?

He's like, you know that song? Ooh, ooh. I'm like, oh. It explained to Dr. Dre, the whole, it just explained everything. You know what's the illest thing about that record that I just found out? That Young MC is not from the West Coast. And Def Jeff. That's what we talked about.

I thought Self Destruction was the answer to We All In The Same Gang. Oh, no, no, no. It was the other way around. But we noticed that. Self Destruction didn't have anybody that wasn't from the East Coast or the Tri-State area. But they had West Coast people in the video, though.

They had West Coast people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying lyrically. But We All In The Same Gang did. Because we were asking Young MC did he feel awkward on there he's like nah he grew up you know

in LA he said he immediately claimed LA he was like fuck that what was the label he was signed to he was on Delicious yeah Delicious

yeah that's probably why that's Matt Dyke and Mike Ross okay now I'm gonna ask y'all both the same question 16 artists dead or alive That was Matt Dyke and Mike Ross. Okay, now I'm going to ask y'all both the same question.

16 artists, dead or alive? Quick producing it. We got Dr. Dre in there co-producing it. Y'all, who is that? It got to be West Coast. Whatever you think of it. I'm saying it again. All right, so mandatory. Got to bring Eric back to the studio.

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Again. Who else? I'm missing somebody. Nip. You got to bring Crip Nip,ipsey Hussle and just one more cause I think we can do it everybody got

ADD they not gonna listen to no 30 verse song these days one more person who's the

one more guy I know I know I'm gonna go for my who that's it for me

I'm gonna go Eazy E for sure yeah T-E for sure. Yeah. Tupac for sure. Nip. Is that three? Yeah.

Draco. Draco. Excuse me. Yeah, okay. Myself. YG. Ooh. Kendrick.

Ooh. Tyler. Mm-hmm. Kendrick Tyler who could I throw in there to be ass backwards Billie Eilish she from LA she from LA yeah throwing a white girl in there

I respect that got to I respect that she with the shit I respect that she's from LA or something like that nah she from West LA oh okay

yeah like of course quick my name Snoop Corvette Something like that. Nah, she from West LA. Oh, okay. Yeah, like, of course, Quick. My name, what? Snoop. Corrupt. I would throw an instrumentalist in there so I could get Terrace Martin. How many is that?

That's 13. Now I need somebody. Game. Who the fuck else I need somebody. Game. Uh, who the fuck else? I need Ice Cube. Yeah. Hell yeah. Uh.

I need my top five. Uh, and one more, one more. Who was that last? Ooh, this is tough. Yeah, go right up, right up, right up. Let me get somebody. You got stuck last time on the last one. Jay Worthy.

Fuck you, my dog. Come on, come on, come on. My man out. Let my nigga in there. Go stuck last time on the last one. Jay Worthy. Fuck you, my dog. Come on, come on. My nigga in there. Let my nigga in there go. But let me ask you something. Just like MC8 and what was the guy's name that wasn't from the West Coast but was on the record? No, no, not MC8.

It was Young MC and Jeff Jeff. Could there be an honorary West Coastman? To me, Wiz Khalifa is from Pittsburgh. We know he's from Pittsburgh. Right. But to me, he adapted the LA lifestyle He's like To me, he's an LA dude now

And I mean that with all due respect That's my friend, you know what I'm saying? I'm saying that with respect But actually, I gotta Not disrespect his origins Of him being from Pittsburgh And I respect that But when I look at him now

He bleeds LA Beach Boy too He don't even bleed like a gang member type of shit. He bleeds like a... I feel like he'd be surfing and shit. You know what I'm saying? He'd be surfing, though. I know he's probably not. I'm bugging you. He's a different kind of fan. Would you consider

that like an honorary L.A.? I would consider Wiz as from the house, for sure. I mean, I would... Miami State, the house for sure. Right. I mean, I would... Miami say the crib. We say the crib. I would... Man.

I think that we all in the same gang is kind of saying something. We... I would want people from the East Coast on it too. Right. You get what I'm saying?

Like, DMX would go crazy. You know what I'm saying? No, but that would be the rule. The rule is like, it's mainly West Coast and, you know, West Coast. You get two honorees. You get two honorees.

You got a lot of rules on this, man. I know. I'm making it up. I'm making it up. I'm making it up as we go. I want to share something with you. Go ahead. Go ahead. Well, this is what

y'all probably don't know. 2000, I took the job with Tom Wiley at Warner Brothers to be vice president. I got that money, though. Hold on. You took Warner Brothers

and your sister snuck your bacon sandwich out your hand. Yeah, yeah. You know, it wasn't her. I was set up to lose that job. It's never happened again because I got people

that'll go shake people up for me now. I took the law into my own hands because the police wouldn't take me seriously. So I went there to myself and went to jail. So fuck them.

And fuck jail. And fuck everybody that was there. And fuck all them COs and motherfucking stress valley detentions and the y'all bitches. I hate y'all. Fuck y'all fake ass

sheriff motherfuckers. Is he the executive vice president of Warner Brothers? Exactly. That's my first question. Come on, my nigga. Stress Valley Detention I hate y'all Fake ass sheriffs Motherfuckers Executive Vice President Of Warner Brothers Exactly That's my first question Come on my nigga So when I was there Lots of artists

Would come through Accent This little female rapper We had this girl Debbie Nova From like South America Like I got all these Young talents

In that pool of talents There's fucking There's fucking Jim Jones And Wiz Khalifa When he was young So i'm in there like low-key mentoring these guys they in the studio watching me work and shit i'm chopping it up when i'm talking to him and i mean we just had a little fro right young kid and you know i met his

moms and i ended up like just you know giving him like advice and shit watching him work i go up to the to the midi room where they were working they had their own studio and just watch him getting down bro and i was like this guy's a star he got something so the music he was doing i guess the record company didn't think that it was you know marketable or wham and it was like trying to turn him into his thing and his thing was i know what i want to be like i'm a rock star but i just got to show y'all y'all not gonna believe i mean i can show y'all better than i could tell y'all so he ended up branching out and doing his, yeah, buddy. So he ended up branching out, doing his own thing.

And, yep, he ended up, you know, he ended up blowing up. And then people would say shit like, quick, this new kid, Wicca Leafy, he kind of sound like you. He got your style. I'd be like, eh, I never heard of him. You know what I'm saying? Right, right, right, right. Wink, wink, wink.

But, yeah, no, and so he was ultimately for the West. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I can't lie to you. Especially when I heard Young MC say that, I was just like, where's fit that profile so bad? Yeah, man. Like, so much, you know what I mean?

Yeah, where's that? Like, dog, you know what I'm saying? We might have to do an All In The Same Game now. Yeah, yeah, goddamn it. That's a great idea. Yeah, yeah. Where were you when that record came out like what was going on with you i was i was new i wasn't i wasn't on yet right yeah you know i'm saying i was writing um i was doing mixtapes selling sweet black pussy and tonight and looked out hood my little gangbang mixtapes right but the motherfuckers start selling so i had to go get a duplicator and like start duplicating my own

cassettes and shit I'm driving around in a fucking whatever a maverick remember before mavericks I was in a maverick selling cassettes out the back seat you know at the trunk until it got too much that shit got popular and I couldn't do it no more right I had to get a record company is that the right time on we just did just like Compton no that was 92 I 92. I did that after I almost got killed in Denver. You know, they almost murdered me. They shot up my limousine. You went really specific

on that record about Denver. So you remember this day? Yeah, they forgave me. I forgave them, but they really almost killed me. And it was over some shit that a nigga in my crew did. I didn't even do it.

I had to just take an L for that. That shit cost almost a half a million dollars in today's money and legal fees and shit or whatever. But you live and you learn. You know what I mean?

I wasn't out there pressing the P car I was out there for the girls like who these niggas wanted to be gangbangers it's like

y'all niggas gonna get killed and they didn't let me they didn't even come and support me when they got me in trouble started a riot these niggas

didn't even come to support me when I went to court I'm like oh man you guys are dicks I don't want to jump over that.

I want to add Hispanic, my boy OGZ, and I like Lefty Gunplay, too. Them is my two that I see that could have been on there. I'm going to wrap that up. What you got in there? What's that, some endo? No, I got this. In the knees, the blunts, this is hash. I got a whole bunch of hash in there.

Oh, shit. You're going to have me blacking out on your show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You ready to go. Let's go to the smoke on the show on your show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You ready to go. It's going to smoke on the show? Of course, yeah, yeah, please. Motherfucking drink champs. Do whatever the hell you want, this is your house.

My sister, my sister ain't waiting to see this shit. Okay, listen, our show is about giving people flowers, man. I'm so excited to give y'all your flowers face to face, man. The man Snoop said it's better than Grammys because it comes from your people and we want to give y'all. Yeah, man. Bro. face to face man to man. Snoop said it's better than Grammys because it's come for your people and we want to give y'all your money. Bro, oh my god. Thank y'all for the what? What? Yeah man, this is long overdue too man.

Yo quiero mi flores. This is fire bro. That shit hard as fuck. Hey man, I want to commend you guys too um for making sure that our history stays intact accredited and correct they like to like count out like the veterans and this hip-hop and i'm saying that that's over yeah yeah i'm saying like honestly these boys selling out more stadiums than the youngsters right now and i'm glad that it's a place where they can come and be fucking

idolized the way they're supposed to be. I appreciate you. You know what I noticed the other day? That's hard. If you actually continue to work in this game, there's no way that any of us should be broke. There's no way.

I looked the other day and I seen an artist and they had did a show 30 days there's no way like I looked I looked the other day and I seen you know um um artists and they had they had they did a show 30 days 20 days out of the month 20 days

like the older the older statesman and I was like you know some of us we get to a certain level we're like ah we don't want to go to Denmark, Copenhagen

and we don't want to go to but then some of us is like you know what fuck it you can really make a living if you just apply yourself and work like Young mc he said he was doing three shows a week yeah like crazy but there's a lot of the elder statesmen and they don't understand that because and i don't want to say all the young generation don't understand that but to me we understand

that so that's the reason why we we giving our motherfucking flowers. Come on, man. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You've been doing it. What is one of your favorite places to perform at? And one thing, you get crazy when you're performing. You sure? Is that bad? That's great.

Hey, man. I've been doing the walk around the stage cool shit forever and point at niggas and shit. Now I dance and shit. I take my shirt off, show my underwear and shit. Like fuck it you know i mean 54 but i don't look like i don't act like it i can still jump and shit ride motorcycles yeah fuck it let's go to the casket drop let's have some fun i mean if you think about it it the best

thing that happened to me just happened to me recently at one of my residency shows up in Oakland at Yoshi's, where I'm performing for people that's my age group, same gray hair. And then you got a young teenager in the audience just looking at me, right? And I'm like, yeah, who the fuck? Then the lady who was with the teenager, she said, this is my daughter. Quick. She said, I've been a fan of yours forever. And I wanted to bring my daughter to your show to show her what real performances are like. Or just to see you get down. Because you've always been my favorite and you stay consistent. And I was like, that fucked me up.

I was like, wow. Wow. So that's the thing. I'm getting used to getting reintroduced to new age groups. Like the same know, like the same age as my kids and younger. So that's wild. I love to hear that. Like when you were saying earlier, him,

dog pound, Snoop, you know what I mean? I seen people like Busta Rhymes and, you know, fat Joe, I think, um,

but Busta's on the tour with Missy and, um, um, Sierra and Ja Rule and Fat Joe. And I've got a, uh, uh, what you just said, uh, a residency and Dougie Fresh and Sl and them got a what you just said? A residency. A residency. And Doug E. Fresh and Slick Rick is a part of that too.

That shit just makes me proud to see our elder statesmen. Not to say it doesn't make me proud to see the younger generation, but what I'm saying is that's something the younger generation should look up to. Right. They should look up to. I remember every young nigga that has an argument with an old nigga, they be like, you old ass nigga. And you got to realize that.

That's my jam. I hate that shit. I hate that shit. But the crazy shit is, that's the dumbest thing you can say. It's the most cliche thing you can say. It's like arguing with somebody with glasses and calling them four eyes. It's like dumb. These niggas get on my nerves, bro.

Hold on, bro. What I'm saying is, if that's your only thing that's calling him an old nigga, guess what? You're going to pray one day to get my ass. That's the point, bro. The point is to get old. I don't know who the fuck taught black people that that's not the way it's supposed to be. No, it's not just black. It's generational.

It's generational. Black niggas don't do that. Like, in rock, nah, bro. In rock, they do. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But in rock music, they don't do that. You never seen no rock and roll verses. They preserve. They do. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But in rock music, they don't do that. You never seen no rock and roll versus. They preserve the rock stars.

They turn into the 90s and shit. Man, 90, 80 years old. Look at Nick Jacker. Look at the who. Look at the P-Towns in there. Yeah, them niggas 900 years old. 900. Yeah, they 900.

They was born in 18. Yeah, they drinking vampire's blood on stage, too. Let us know. Yeah, nigga, we drinking vampire blood. This is an ironic thing, though. When we came up, you know, and this is a lot of people don't understand this. Hip hop was made by young people. Right.

Right. And us, and I'll put Dre in this, too. We honored our old school niggas like George Clinton. We sampled their music and looked up to them. You know, if the Temptations put out a good record in the 80s, that motherfucker got bought. Treated like a lady. And motherfuckers went to see their shows. You know, all of these.

We never looked at them, thank you. We never looked at them as old. Because, you know, my argument now, and I take this from my OG homie, when I get that whole, oh, you old motherfucker, I'll be like, look here, little nigga. I said, look, I've been your motherfucking age. You ain't never been mine.

You ain't never been mine. That's so beautiful. That's a huge shutdown. That's so beautiful. And, you know, being a little generic right now, but that's what the difference between our era, our time, and what's happening now. It's like, you got a hit record, homie. Talking about the young generation.

You got a hit record, homie. You doing the drill. You doing the pointing the guns. And it's not really, really music. But at some point, you should learn music. Right. You should learn. Why you have a music career you should learn why you have a

music career yes why you have a music career and you know some of them are getting lucky because they're they're doing it in in their people's crib they're getting lucky and and it's working and then no record label is saying you know what you need to go in with a dj quick you need you need to learn how to pattern your stuff they're not even doing it because they want these these kids to self-destruct yeah Yeah, there's no more development. There's no more development. Oh, they took that out. A&R, that's what my job was, what my description was, my task. But yeah, that kind of doesn't exist anymore. They leave that to the artists now to develop themselves.

Artists leave that to the numbers. They're reading TikTok numbers. Right, it's all data points. Likes and streams, but we all know that that's paid for. So it's like, why are we reading something that we know can be bought? It's like everybody's in this weird time and space. Nobody's going off what they hear and feel no more. And then second to that, they can't afford a DJ quick. And that's the real irony of it, because we're not taking no pay cuts over here at all. But I tell you,

every now and then it's a universal record that makes everyone combine. And right now, that record is they not like us. I see every race. I don't give a fuck

what you are. I've seen dinosaurs listen to this shit, man. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Ray Charles and shout out to Mustard for reimagining that sample. I believe in the... So that sample's Ray Charles And shout out to Mustard For reimagining that sample I believe in

So that sample's Ray Charles? I believe it Remember they was doing that practice In the movie Ray? I believe it That's that record Oh Yes sir

And it was redone by this guy Monk Higgins Right On a jazz album And the way he did it Was a little funkier Than the Ray Charles version So that's where This actual sample came from a little funkier than the Ray Charles version.

So that's where this actual sample came from. It's an interpolation of Ray Charles's I Believe in the Power or something like that. I forgot the whole title of it, but you know. Now you was involved

in one of the, I don't want to say craziest beefs in hip hop. Good Lord. But it was one of the first crazy ones. It was one of the, I was saying.

I was God playing that, but it was real shit happening in the streets. It seemed real serious. That shit was real. No,. It was one of the I was gut playing that but it was real shit happening in the streets. It seemed real serious. That shit was real. No, no, but it was one thing of hearing

MC8 saying hearing about you performing the actual record in front of MC8. Yeah. But then it was another thing like we had him on the show

and he was like he's describing it. I was just like holy shit like cause I don't I don't I don't I don't remember

if I actually saw it or if this is word of mouth I don't remember but that's some weird that's some real shit like did you plan like I'ma go to the awards

he's gonna be here and I'ma go perform the record not only that you walked over to him no okay it wasn't planned okay

what had happened was we did a sound check and they had to do blocking and they have to do positioning so in positioning while we sound checking a couple of magical things happened that day too while we sound checking you got dj pool up here with the dog they working making sure all the shit works behind us the the jail cells. And I'm looking down in the audience where they're going to be and everybody's names are on the seat. So right here, front center stage,

stage right, two rows in, it's MC8. So I just made a little mental note of it. Also makes you a little nervous too because shit can go wrong live. Murphy's Law is totally in effect at all times. So while I'm up there,

we was taking a break and we had been i've been out there maybe three four days started missing some things from home so i just started sound checking the house singing california right knows how to party and everybody joined in with me in the city of la who was like in the city dr dr Dre's back there doing his shit. This is in California? No, this is where I was on stage at Madison Square Garden. I just started singing that shit. In the city of Compton.

Dre was like, man, I need to use that. Yeah, that was still the cut, bro. Whatever. Ronnie, Ronnie something. I forgot his name on the record. So fast forward to, and Tupac was in the last cage, you know,

his little cutout. Yeah, he was locked up. Right. Okay. So we, you know, the kerfuffle started,

you know, I performed for MCA because he did sit in his chair. Right. And I was like, I got all these niggas back. I just, fuck it,

I swelled up a little bit. Went for it. Like, fuck it, it's a beef. You know what I mean? So I got down and shit, he was like, he was like, Chia. fuck it, I swelled up a little bit. Went for it. Like, fuck it, it's a beef. You know what I mean? So I got down and shit,

he was like, he was like, he was like, Chia. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, the guy with the mic,

the loudest guy kind of wins or whatever, but I mean, we cool as fuck now. Yeah, he said that on Dreamcast. We leave and three days later

in the studio, a few days later, Tupac walks in the studio, me and Karrueh playing fucking Mortal Kombat on PlayStation 2. And we look at this nigga walking in the studio and Me and Kurupt playing fucking Mortal Kombat on PlayStation 2. And we look at this nigga walking in the studio. It was like, we just dropped the joystick.

Like, what the fuck, nigga? What are you doing here? Right? He said, nigga, I'm back. Give me some music. Give me some motherfucking music, quick. Light a blunt. Roll the blunt.

He just came in like George Jefferson. Like, wow. Now, in the back, and I had already did this drop. I did this drop for a radio for this dude named Theo. We used to do these neighborhood songs for him because we loved our radio station and I sampled Intimate Connection. So we go in the back. Dr. Dre has this song, California Love. Suge plays it for us.

Like, tell me what y'all think about this. California Love, come on. It's banging. Dre does the remix of it and he uses the California. That's what I'm saying. So he was doing that on stage before that record. So you gave that idea to Dre then? Yeah. Dre does the remix of it and he uses the So high culminates is the the sample that I use intimate Clear. I also used Tonight from that group and went platinum with my song Tonight. That's Clear, a group that was on Atlantic Records.

And Dre, it was hard to get that beat. So my man from Above the Law who passed away, Laylaw. Laylaw brought Dr. Dre a CD of Intimate Connection. He just sampled the break off of it instead of reprogramming it and he just had his band play all over it so it was like both of those ideas the sample of Intimate Connection and the Ronnie y'all find it

West Coast Pop Lock Ronnie Dyson I think his name was but that's where it came from so I'm sitting in the room listening to this shit looking at Dre like damn Dre still listens to what he knows will be hot. I'm thinking out of the box. I'm left-handed, he right-handed. So I always wanted to be that nigga's Terry Lewis anyway.

You know what I'm saying? But this is my Terry Lewis. I'm Jimmy's man. This is my Terry Lewis. Right. Is it time for Quick Time with Sly? It's time. Okay.

Let's see. Y'all set it up? I'll send it to you. Ronnie Hudson. That was his name. Thank you. And to be clear, you didn't get no credit on the record. I didn't want none.

Who cares? Just making sure. But I helped on a lot of records with Drake. I'm on My Dad's Gone Crazy. I was in the studio when he was doing Choke Me, Spank Me. That's my drum. No, nigga, Satisfaction. That's my drums. No, nigga, satisfaction. When I gave Dre them sounds and left,

Dre just put them all to work. So he'd be like, quick, you busy? No, what's up? I'll go to the studio. And he'd be like, even the booth and shit. That nigga be like. Now I'm going to do this thing. And I'm like, look, I'm getting chills just how it sounded in the studio

I was like what the fuck is that and he was like your drums you gave I'm like bro look I'm still getting chills the way he made them sound bro you don't understand they were unreal like I should have stopped drinking just to be more present

I know it wouldn't go last forever but you know, that fucking watching Eminem mix Encore and shit and this stripper bitch knocking me over his equipment and shit. We both go falling.

And Eminem was like, Dre! Get your mans, Dre! I'm like, damn! It's not me! It's her! Badass Puerto Rican.

Get this badass Puerto Rican drunk bitch off me. Drunk titties. Is it true you did The drums on Get Rich Since I Tried In the club I can't do it

It can't be done And yeah Those are my drum sounds Cause I knew nobody Had them that clap That snare Cause everybody Was using the one

That came With the MPC 2000 You know The most The biggest example Is right there By Chingy You know, the biggest example is right there by Chingy. You know,

that little sound, that snare. So when I gave him the drum sound that was like it but more beefed up, it went on If I Can't Do It,

It Can't Be Done. You know what I'm saying? Because I do sound design. That's really my shit. I like, just like Dre, he's like Quincy Jones, these motherfuckers only want to hear something they ain't never heard before. You got to impress them, like,

nigga, we done heard everything. I own the record shop, nigga. Impress me. So you got to go do some shit they never heard before. And then they let you in and party, and the bitches jump on you, and the weed comes out, and the liquor, and the money, the checkers. You get some pussy.

Oh, man. They had way more fun than we fucking talked about. I did, bro. And get more. And it wasn't documented. I was about to say, it wasn't no Instagram. It wasn't no Instagram. It wasn't no VHS cameras or nothing.

It was more good than not documenting that shit doing that. But I always say that as I play with people. I was like, yo, man, imagine Tupac had an Instagram. I'd be thinking the same way. Like Eazy-E on fucking Twitter. On Twitter, Eazy-E on Twitter. I need that one. Holy shit.

It would have been hilarious. Holy shit. Man, I miss that guy. He seemed like he had a hell of a sense of humor. He was the fun. Man, he was Jokey Smurf. That nigga was hilarious. And from Compton, how far are-

Are blocks? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Less than a mile. He's like, he was in Kelly Park. We in Treetop. You just go down fucking Arambi, six blocks to Compton Boulevard, make a left, go down about four blocks. It's right there.

This shit's only 10 square miles. Yeah, it's like 10, 15 square miles Compton. So, and you know this is like a close, like walking distance. Okay, so for lack of a better term, for me not knowing no better, I might sound stupid, but let me just act.

Because for us back then, we thought that it was full-fledged beef whenever you see somebody in red that's wearing red and somebody that's wearing blue. It was. It really was. Don't kid yourself. Our vision was correct. It wasn't exaggerated. And the Compton Police

Department used to egg that shit on and exacerbate it by picking up crip niggas and dropping them off in blood niggas neighborhoods. And then picking up blood niggas and dropping us off in crip neighborhoods and be like, hey, y'all got a slob over here? And drive off. And the crips Crip neighborhoods. And be like, hey, y'all got a slob over here? Vroom, and drive off.

And the Crips figured it out. They was like, man, that was blind. They'll say the name of the officer. They ain't nothing but woo-woo-woo. Come on, man, we'll drive y'all home.

They didn't bite. They didn't fall for it. They was doing that in my time, too. Because what do they do? In the movie we saw where they drop off in a Mexican neighborhood. There was a movie.

He'd come through and be like, yo, you know, man, you know, the Carver's got one of y'all. It'd be some shit like that. He'd be like, what the fuck? We out there drilling. We out there playing basketball or whatever.

Oh, yeah. No, the Nutty's got a day up on y'all. He'd be like, bro, we 12, 13 years old. Right. And they telling you because the police. Just so you, so the niggas from my neighborhood go over there, do what they do. Because there wasn't no Instagram, wasn't no Twitter, so you didn't know. Yeah, you didn't know better, right.

You just kind of felt the energy. Right. You know what I mean? The sheriff was the, they was the telegram. Oh, yeah. Wait, they wasn't the Instagram, they was the telegram. The instigators. They was the pigeons.

That shit crazy. The pigeons, the pigeons that used to come. The carrier pigeons. Yeah, the carrier pigeons that go and bring the word. Because, what did you just say, Compton? Is this only a what? About 10 to 15 miles. It's 10, 15.

10 to 15 miles. It's blocks, okay. 10 square miles. The whole thing, though. But that's a city, though. Compton is a city, though, right? Okay. So, what's the name of their first album?

Who's? Rose Chance. Now, Rose Chance is, what is that? Rose Chance is the only street that runs all the way through Compton without anything blocking it.

Yeah, it's almost like a main street but it's an avenue, really. Okay, and it runs through every neighborhood. It goes from La Mirada

all the way to the beach. We used to jump on the bus to 125 and just take it west and get off at Manhattan Beach. Yeah. Like, it's unbroken. Right. Most streets get broken on the bus, the 125, and just take it west and get off at Manhattan Beach. Like, it's unbroken. Most streets get broken by the railroads or, like,

you'll get, like, train tracks that'll break it. It's an artery. It's an artery. Yeah, it's the only street that you can just ride through Compton straight through and get to the back of it to get to the next city. And get out, yeah. But it's not a crip neighborhood. It's not even a neighborhood. It drives through all that shit. It divides everybody.

Okay, wow. Wow. Yeah. It's something interesting. You got to pull up. You got to pull up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, listen. Yeah, yeah. It's so interesting because, you know, the way it's divided, right? The way how, like, you know, Krupp is my friend, right? Yes, sir. You know, and I remember Krupp somewhere, and I remember him how, like, you grew up as my friend, right? Yes, sir. You know, and I remember I grew up somewhere, and I remember him like, oh, no, no, no, no, he's not stopping there. That's him for sure.

That's the Cardinal Brown one. And then he's like, yo, we good over here, though. And I'm like, all right, cool. Like, you know, I didn't want to get into depth of what just happened, but, like, I would always imagine that a person could get caught slipping like that like if you're just out there and I remember Snoop telling us on this show he was like one time he seen Nas and Nas was just so out of pocket he was just

like in a hole he was in all red and he was just like uh Nas I'm not sure you have that on over here but is that something like you know um that that that y'all into like let me break it down a little bit more like so many people it's this thing checking in yeah right because right now and i'll reiterate the question they say that la is one of the most

dangerous places in the world for rappers right first of, if you want to address that. I would love to address it. Okay. Please. Yes. That's not true. Because y'all both made the L noises. I heard it.

That's not true, bro. I want to say this, bro. Like, a lot of, like, I would never go to New York and say, man, I hate this motherfucker and then open up a business there. Right.

People come to our city and totally talk shit about it to us. Man, you LA niggas, man. You LA niggas, but y'all live here. Y'all business there. Right. People come to our city and totally talk shit about it to us. Man, you L.A. niggas, man. You L.A. niggas, but y'all live here. Y'all stay there. And it gets to a point

where it's like, it looks so lax, the days are cool. It looks like, oh, it's palm trees. Even our ghettos just look nice. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? So you can get caught slipping. You get lulled to believe in that it's all palm trees until you're leaking out your motherfucking transmission fluid on that hot ass asphalt. It look like it's something to play with, that it's all palm trees until you're leaking out your motherfucking transmission fluid on that hot ass asphalt. It look like it's something to play with, but it's like

I would never, like the checking in thing for me is like, if I'm going to Atlanta, I'm calling everybody I know the minute I get off the plane. I don't care if it's called checking in, checking out, nothing. These are the niggas that I know from the spot. I'm showing love. Yo, I'm in your city. What's popping?

But when it comes to LA, it's, your city was popping to the love. But when it comes to L.A., it's like, ain't nobody going to tell me. It's like, bro, we got to get that energy out of us. That's not the play, bro. That's not even our culture. Like, if you really came to L.A., this side of the 10 freeway is more southern. It's all a bunch of people from Louisiana, Texas that brought families down. Our families. We, man, come to the barbecue, come chill out, come hang out. It's not what you think.

Now, if you get caught slipping in Hollywood and all that, you're in the gumbo pot. That's where everybody that comes to L.A. goes and they chill out. And they can be their toughest. They can act their richest. They can act like whatever they want. And then they'll bump into somebody

that's really from there and they'll, you know, probably play it with them or rub them the wrong way. Right. L.A. nigga not finna be loud when he gonna get you. He gonna be like, all right, got you. And they gonna wait it out. They gonna do it.

You know what I'm saying? They gonna do it that way. I would just say, man, just respect where you at. Like, if I come to Miami, we're now cool. I'm like, yo, hey, I'm here. What can we do? Well, it's not like, yo, man, I'm here, man. I'm scared.

What are we gonna do everywhere got some bullshit it's just the rappers come to LA and play right and they fucking on niggas and girls

well that happens everywhere it happens everywhere too you know what I'm saying if some pussy gonna get you to shoot somebody

you already need to go get therapy anyway right right that's a whole that's a whole another episode like shut up but nah to go get therapy anyway. Right, right. That's a whole nother episode. Like, chill out.

But nah, as far as just like, man, just come with love. Right. Come with love, bro, because that's what Compton is. That's what Watts is. That's what Long Beach is. That's what Englewood. I don't know what Hollywood is.

Right. That's something where everybody's like, it's the free fall because everyone is just basically out there. But that's where all of the dangerous shit happens. Yeah. Hollywood is Times Square. You Like it's the free fall Because everyone is Just basically out there But that's where all Of the dangerous shit happens Yeah

Hollywood is Times Square You know what's the greatest Yeah that's a good one I was in Remember the Sorcerer Wars Where everybody got robbed Which one was it in LA You know what

LA yeah The one I got arrested Got pulled up by the police And slain I'm not sure I'm not sure Everybody got robbed Thank you

And you know the crazy shit I didn't stay in Beverly Hills I mean I stayed in Beverly Hills But I went to I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Everybody got robbed. Thank you. And you know the crazy shit? I didn't stay in Beverly Hills. I mean, I stayed in Beverly Hills, but I went to, the first time going to the jungles, and I went to the jungles. It was before training day,

I'll tell you that. I went to the jungle. I did not know where the fuck. You had to say that. You had to get that one out. It was before training day, yeah, because I went through it. I was like, wait a minute. This is a little different for me.

You know what I mean? It's a little different. And I did that whole little thing, you know, all that. And then I went to Baldwin Hills next to them. And it was a bunch of Crip dudes who gave me Death Row shirts. And I was like, I am mad confused. Like, I was so confused. I was like, wait a minute.

I thought they hated each other. Bloods, Cribs. I didn't understand that. But they had Bloods and Cribs in the book. Yeah, but I didn't understand that thing. I was just so green. Well, they could have just told you they were Cribs just to see what you were going to say. Amen.

Okay. That's another Jewish that was getting run back into. Right. Wow. They would dress up in the opposite color and just walk up on you and fuck with you. And then you'd just be like, oh, what's up, cuz, where you from? He be like,

oh, man, cuz, I'm from old life. What blood? And then it turned into this thing. Wow.

I ain't gonna lie, I got the East Coast face, though. They knew I was not from here. Yeah, you know, I swear to God, I got this on tape,

I'm gonna pull it up. So I go through the jungles and this guy's name is Adam Favis. He used to work for Interscope Records. Do we know Adam? You is Adam Favis. He used to work for Interscope Records. Do we know Adam? You know Adam Favis.

He's around. He can go inside this story. I was over there a lot. I went to the jungle and I turned in and I was scared. So I was like, you know what? I want to get this over with. I want LA to, I want to feel it. So I was like, where's the closest hood?

He was like, I was like, the closest hood. I just want to go her So I was like Where's the closest hood He was like I was like The closest hood I just want to go Just real quick And he just looked at me And then we walked through And I realized We had an all blue Excursion

Dangerous Living dangerous What year was this 2000 and It's got to be 2000 99 to 2000 Somewhere

Source Awards It's not the Source Awards This is me being there This is Excuse me This is after the Source Awards? No, it's not the Source Awards. This is me being here. This is, excuse me, this is after the Source Awards and my record hit number one in LA and they said,

you got to stay. And everybody from the East Coast went back home and I'm down here by myself. So I'm like, all right, cool. And I went through the jungle. And the first,

listen, the first person I have met, the guy, I got out the car and I was filming. Remember, I was doing the What What first person I had met, the guy, I got out the car, and I was filming. Remember, I was doing the What What documentary. So I had filmed the guy, and I was like, yo, you know, I'm from the East Coast. You know where I am? And the dude said, yeah, you little Nori.

Little Nori? I was like, how the fuck I get into the West Coast and become little Nori? I swear to God. He was like, because I'm big Nori. And I was like, all right, I'm cool, yo. Am I cool to walk around. He was like, because I'm big Nori. And I was like, all right, I'm cool, yo. Am I cool to walk around? He was like, you good?

He did something. I don't know if it was the pitching shit. I don't remember exactly if it was the pitching. He did something. He was like, yo, I don't suggest you drive around

without me letting them know that it's a blue excursion. Because as soon as, and I'm going to tell you another thing. As soon as I hit the left and they seen a blue excursion, girls ran from it.

Like, and I was like, this is not good. I was like, this is not good. But, and yeah, and I went through

and I remember that was the time I met T. Rogers. But yeah, like, yeah, rest in peace, T. Rogers.

But big up, big up to the motherfucking California. Big up to, big up to Big Nori. Yeah, big up to Big Nori. Shout out to Big Nori. Yeah, big up to Big Nori. Shout out to Big Nori.

Where he at? Where he at? Go get out. Big Nori. He helped me down. And then, again, I didn't hear this hood. I didn't know nothing until I seen Trayn in there. And I was like, oh, man.

I was like, I might have fucked up. I was like, I might have fucked up. I'm in some shit. I'm in some shit that I did not know. I'm used to associate and identify as a blood when I was younger. I still wasn't going

to the jungle. It was a little dangerous for me. God damn it. God bless me. You got balls. You got a heart and a gunfire. In my defense,

I did not know where it was at. Had I might have knew, like, I was just like, I'm going to mainline. No, no, if I was traded there, I probably wouldn't that. Had I might have knew, like... I was just like, I watched the movie before that. No, no, I'm not frustrated that I probably wouldn't have made that same move, sir. No, I wouldn't have probably...

You done extolled a nigga Regal during that shoot. Hell yeah, hell yeah. You done extolled that Regal during the shoot. And if you want, you can ask him to join if you want, like, join his brother. You can extoll that Regal. You hear me? I mean, they stole that Monte Carlo during the shooting of that. That's a flyer.

Yeah, they did. Yeah, they made it. That's how they got in the movie. It was like, oh, you give it back, we give it back, we got to put some homies in the movie. Oh. Wow, that's so dope. It's love. Yeah, it's so dope.

It's just love. It's a girl. It's like, we just want our love. That's all it needs. But let me ask y'all, because quick, quick, I heard you say back then they used to laugh at you with the perv. The per you with the perm and the dickies. And now you might go anywhere and see that same look in any neighborhood. Man, Chingy used to have a press and curl and wear Cortez.

That was my whole shit. Press and curl, Cortez. And niggas ask me Why I did my hair like that I said cause girls like it Right Same way Prince Wore a motherfucking lace Cause girls like it

And boots Girls like it And was gangsters A motherfucker I ain't trying to I ain't trying to party With you later my guy My boy

Straight the fuck up But how dope is it To see A legacy you started And it spread everywhere Nor is it to see a legacy you started and it's spread everywhere. Nori, it's a dream. It's like a dream. Damn, this tastes good.

It tastes exotic. Yeah, that's why I be jumping for that hash. I've been smoking on this. Yeah, just go home. You're welcome. You're welcome. Throw some more hash, nigga.

You want it in a joint? Let me know. That's tobacco? Yeah, that's tobacco. That's tobacco on a joint? My lungs are still in the 90s. Can you do one on the joint? Yeah, do one on the joint for him.

Hell yeah, please. My lungs are still in the 90s, man. I'm sorry. I ain't upgrade. I ain't upgrade. I've been cigarette free for like two years and shit. Eight years. He ain't been drinking neither.

We have to get him to do this tonight. So this is really special. I was going to come on totally dry. But you would have been fine too. Yeah. This is your house. This is your house. I was going to come on totally dry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you would have been fine, too. Yeah, yeah. This is your house. This is your house. I was going to say, man, you need a TV show.

Hold on. Let me just tell you something. Let me tell you something about your fans. You think... You ever pay attention to those niggas' fans? Man, what? I got to be in the comments. Yo, let me tell you something.

We've got a Twitter feed together. They've been attacking us. They love me, man. They've been attacking us and we were like, what do you mean? They think that it's us saying we don't want to. We be throwing it on you. It's quick, man. We be reversing

it real fast. It's not us. Your fans. Let me just tell you something. I know this is the best thing about doing this show is you get to know the people that you're about to interview fast when i tell you they went from when it's quick when it's quick when it's quick to y'all y'all y'all hating on quick huh like your fans is real i'm just letting you know That shit is scary I'm scared of your fans

I took a cue out of Nicki Minaj got her team You know what I'm saying Beyonce got the beehive What's your fans name? I can't give my name We gotta give them We gotta take on this

I'm telling you I've been doing this for years And even more after MCA We got to give them something. You got to give them a name. We got to take on this. They were lit. I'm telling you. I've been doing this for years, and I know. And even more after MCA, they were like, oh, no, no. You got to have a question. Oh, yeah, yeah. They really had to do that. Hey, man, me and MCA go to weddings together, bro. That's so funny.

He said so. The moment they got to do that record on Rosecrans, bro. Oh, yeah. We got to this nigga's studio. That was a big deal. We came to the studio. I came to the drum machine. It's like, man.

Bro, the first time them two got to work was on machine Like it's like Man And I'm telling you I'm homicidal for that guy bro They barbecuing They brought each other gifts It was like The weight was high As a fan But I always want

That relationship with him But they misinterpreted Something I said On a mixtape In 88, 89 I shouldn't have Never mentioned him Did you watch

What he said on here About the mixtape And hearing it and all that Somebody pumped that up Cause I was like I'm not a NWA I ain't gay And I'm on Did you watch what he said on here about the mixtape and hearing it and all that? Somebody pumped that up because I was like, I'm not an NWA. I ain't gay. And I'm on my way to the top of the tree for CMW to see. I was just naming all the company. Yeah, y'all, it's me.

Like, I want to be with y'all. This nigga was like. So you were telling me. I heard a diss record. He was doing like a How to Rob type of thing. Not even that. It was just. It was a misinterpretation.

It was conscious rap, believe it or not. It was like some cool jazz break beat. So the beef started it was like, it was conscious rap, believe it or not. It was like, it was some cool jazz break beat. So the beef started over, you said it was a misunderstanding. We sampled, Life is for Learning by Marvin Gaye. And yeah,

it was like, I was just mentioning them. Like I did a little record break, like a little eight, four bar little thing, boom, just a little break and just was just mentioning

like the end of, you know, the Compton rappers. And I said something about- He said it wasn't even y'all really beef, it was the camps. It was people, yeah, the camps were starting that shit. y'all really beefing, it was the camps.

The camps were starting that shit. Nah, he always been cool. We toured together and shit. Nah, because one of the diss records, I believe you said. Like, I was never fighting. I would never put my dukes up for a date. Even back then, it wouldn't have made sense, because then I would have been having to deal with his niggas everywhere

when he's not there and I'm alone, you know. It was just, it wasn't smart for hip hop. It wasn't smart for comping, period. Now back then we was all young and ignorant,

I understand. But on your diss record you said that you don't got a G8 because the G8 ain't in you. That was a fire fly. That was a fire fly. Ever, bro.

That was fire. Bro, it was. Ever, bro. That was fire. Bro, it was like a gladiator fight, bro. But, you know, it was words. It was war words. MC shit, though. And then he was like, he said DJ Quick in a khaki bikini. I was like, oh!

My egos all hurt. My girl was like, baby, don't even worry. You can wear that. You can wear that khaki. Baby is a little tight, though. And is that why you spelled quick without the C? Man,

I wanted to be the Nestle Rabbit. That shit was fly. We used to drink quick. Nestle Quick. That was my favorite drink. And Strawberry Quick made my stomach hurt so bad.

I was like, fuck Strawberry Quick. People thought it was because you was a power room. No. It's actually counterintuitive. If you put the C in there, I'm gangbanging.

That's CK. That's Crypt Killer. I could paint the C blue or put a slash in it and somebody's going to shoot me for that. Yeah. Because the CK

means Crypt Killer. Yeah. Like Calvin Klein is like the undertone. Like British Knights. Like BK. and that's somebody gonna shoot me for that yeah because it's the ck means crip killer yeah like calvin klein is like it's like the undertone like british knights like the bk it was like those were like double entendre oh my god man we just learned something but i wanted them i wanted the nestle now for sure they were committed because they changed their name it's called nest queen me up too when he told me it was That shit was dope. Holy shit. I got it from the quick box. That fucked me up.

You want to give me a quick time of slime? Quick time of slime. We're going to ask you guys. This is our drinking game, by the way. We'll put this out. Ask you guys two questions. You pick one. Nobody drinks.

You pick both or neither of them. We all drink. Okay. Fair enough? Everybody knows? Got it. You want to do Japanese whiskey with me? Oh, see, no. Let's be clear. Everybody got it. Well, you want to do Japanese whiskey with me? Oh, see, no, let's be clear. You talking about me? I'm already drinking. Yeah, yeah,

I see you already drinking. You've been taking some disrespectful shots. Your shots are out of line. Is that bad? Nah, I'm not doing that cognac. Well, I'm not going to drink all of that. I ain't going to be able to go home if I drink that cognac. We're not doing that. I'll do the Japanese whiskey. Yeah, do the Japanese whiskey. I'm sorry. We take small shots because it's shots, though. Huh? He got his own shots.

He got his own shots. Yeah, so, yep, just me and bro. Okay, you want to do the first one? I got the first one. Let's go. Man. I'll make... You got the second one.

Let me take a look at the first one that I'm making up right now. You always throw the second one on me. a look At the first one That I'm making up right now You always throw The second one on me Here we go Michael Jackson Or Prince It's Prince for me Prince

You can say any stories You got Yeah we need these stories man Okay well My Prince story is I was at Warner Brothers As vice president

Artist and repertoire Uh huh And I think Prince Must have saw that. It was like, I mean, Benny Bonita's not there anymore.

They hired quick. I like that. Tell them I'm coming back. I'll be there in the morning. So, Benny Medina's not there no more? Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, but the way he sounds like Prince, I don't know. Okay, yeah, okay,

okay. Man, I gotta go visit. Nigga, this nigga came back to the Warner Brothers office. I went in one day. It was all Prince all the time.

They even went and got his, that album cover he had when he had his hair, the shirt off with his hair. I think it was For You, maybe. Uh-huh. And they put that gigantic blow up in the office. That's a little weird to have that that big. Naked Prince. It's a little weird. Yeah.

You know, remember, they're posed on him. But he was big. Naked Prince. It's a little weird. Yeah. You know, I remember I had to pose on him. But he was back. Oh, wow. So we all got the studio. I got Henson, A&M. You know what I mean? And I'm in the front. I'm going from D to B and yada, yada.

Everybody's in there. I mean, from Wendy and Lisa to Beyonce and Mick Jagger. Everybody's just walking through there like just kids at home. Like, it's normal. At Prince Studio Session? At my studio session. Okay, my bad. And I'm in the studio with a bunch of people.

It's a bunch of studio. You know, it's A&M, basically, where Rhythm Nation was recorded and Karen Carpenter. But in comes Prince. And just shuts, like, he has a way of shutting everything down when you walk in. It's like, the man doesn't walk, he glides. Like, his head doesn't move. I heard it's a purple aura. He just, no, he just, he levitates.

Like, bro. His feet never touch the ground. Bro, there's something real magic about that guy. So, he comes in, and I'm doing the session. I think I was mixing Loyal to the Game, maybe, with Tupac, or something like that. And he had booked that side of the studio. He sent the security to say, you know,

hey, what up, Quink? I'm Prince of Security. I'm like, oh, cool. He said, uh... He said, uh, he saw your equipment. He wanted to know if he could borrow your rig for like, you know, a couple of hours. Is that okay with you? I said, shit, man, well, this shit up out of here. Man, get that shit back.

Man, tell him, hell yeah, it's all good. We put the, you know, it's a fucking flight case. We put the flight case together. It's gone. A couple hours, three hours, whatever, four hours. Me and my engineers in there are going, nigga, Prince just borrowed my shit. Like, barf. So my man comes back about five hours later, six hours later.

It's night. He comes back in. He said, quick, Prince said, thank you, man. I said, oh, I said, tell him anytime, man. Tell him I'm glad he back to coming back to Warner Brothers. That's a big deal. He said, yeah, that's all good and fine, Danny, quick. But Prince wants to know what you drink.

I said, what I drink? That's easy. Henness He said, yeah, that's all good. I'm fine, Danny. Quick. But Prince wants to know what you drink. I said, what I drink? That's easy. Hennessy XO. Right? He said, OK. He leaves. Another hour or two later, come by. My man comes back with the box.

Prince said, thank you. We put that motherfucking box on the console, the SSL. We didn't drink that motherfucker for like three months. Look at that. This happened, right? Wow. So then I get invited for my 36th birthday. I get invited to his house for one of the Grammy parties that he used to throw.

Clive used to throw his in Beverly Hills. Prince used to throw his in Mount Olympus. We get motherfucking invited to one of his Mount Olympus parties. And I'm on the motherfucking golf cart thingy with Nasir, with Ludacris and with Jessica Simpson and Spinderella's there and fucking

Dougie Fresh and yeah it was wild. It was fucking dope watching this dude sit up there and play He can play everything. Bro, this is the thing. He got the most beautiful women in the world walking around with silver platters, with any hors d'oeuvre on them you can think of, Craig Ragoon, all this good shit, all this fancy shit.

This motherfucker's elevator is infelt with a black light with this logo. And I'm like, this guy, he got a circus outside with motherfuckers out there with fire and shit. I'm like, I love this motherfucker. Glam slam, bitch. I made it. Yeah, glam slam. He had a clue out here. Glam slam out here, too, in motherfucker. Glam slam, bitch. I made it. He had a clue out here.

Glam slam out here, too, in Miami. Bro, what? This man threw the most awesome fucking parties. The best shit ever. He sunned us all. It's like, I'm kicking it with Jessica Simpson. Just shoot the motherfucking reality show. You do what you want, bro. Just fuck Prince. And everybody just showed up.

We was all standing up there. Now, EFN put me away at that interview. I think it was a podcast. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You definitively said that Michael Jackson was a crip. I didn't know if he was being serious, but you

seemed serious when you said it. If you go look at the videos, they didn't look very Piru friendly. Let's just put it that way. Those pictures, everybody's wondering if those are AI or doctored or Photoshopped. No, those have been there before

AI. They were shot on film. Okay, so tell us how does he become a crip? AI. They were shot on film. Okay, so tell us how does he become a crip? We did see the pictures with him. What part of the game is Michael Jackson become a crip? Maybe I should apologize

for saying that. I ain't going to walk it back. This is what it is. Was he shooting bad? It was a lot of pictures with him that just popped up with him just throwing up cookies with his crip friends, bro. With his crip friends?

But that was cool. He identified with niggas. He identified with niggas. That's it. That's why I love him. You know what I mean? I guarantee because of Michael Jackson. If I died and got resurrected, I'm going to come back as a Crip. Fuck it.

Because of Michael Jackson. Because of Michael Jackson, yeah. I want to go to the house. I want to play with Bubbles. Who didn't want to fuck with Michael Jackson? Come on, man. The first record I ever scratched was Billie Jean. And I tore the other side of the record up.

That's the best record for a DJ, too. Oh, God. That's the first time I pulled a record back. I was like, oh, shit. I'm on to something here. That's the best record for a DJ, too. Oh, God. That's the first time I pulled a record back. I was like, oh, shit. I'm on to something here. That's the best record. Yeah.

But, God damn it. Burnt up side one, though. He was a real nigga, though. He had a brother named Tito. That should tell you everything. But, the Jackson 5 was

thinking about all the niggas 6'5", 6'3". They were a crew. The Jackson 5 was a crew. He the youngest one. Jermaine. And Tito wasn't Latino. Straight. That's the answer. That should have been a side one. That should have been a side one youngest one. And Tito wasn't Latino. That's right.

Exactly. That should have been a side. I bet Tito's the realest one out of all of us. No, he's not. Yeah. He's not? Let's be honest. Let's be honest.

Hold on. I can say this because, you know, I know the Jackson family. And I don't think Janet would be mad if I said anything about her family. Because I ain't going to say nothing weird. But we hang out with Randy Jackson. He comes to the pool halls and shit and kick it. He is a nigga. American Idol?

Randy Jackson. Oh, man, that's not the same Randy Jackson. Capital son. Capital son. He got a Jackson son. Randy is cool. Randy. Randy.

I'm high on that. I'm high on that. Let me get away with it. Let me get away with it Let me get away with it Let me get away with it Randy Randy Gangsta though Randy is the one that You know Jermaine

You know boom Yeah Randy But he come to kick it Like he come Chill talk shit That nigga a nigga bro Okay

Don't get fucked up Like the DeBarges Them some niggas DeBarges You think they angels Them niggas will pull a shotgun. I'm just playing. I'm joking.

I'm joking. You was label made. No, I did a song with Chico DeBarge. Was he a label made of yours? No, no, no. Chico DeBarge was my label mate. I liked that he got locked up. I wanted to support that.

When he got out, he came to my house. Chico was ill. Digital Underground, me, him, L. Which Digital Underground? Digital Underground. He came with them, I goes ill Digital Underground Me, him, Elle Which Digital Underground? Digital Underground He came with them I'm saying? No, they

I threw a party They all pulled up Tracy Spencer Digital Shock Money All of them These niggas went to

A fucking players club Players ball And took all Ice cheese bitches And brought them back to my house And threw them in the pool I had a great life This is funny shit

I'm telling you Do what you like. My shirt is so soft. What an era. What an era. I survived. Way more fun than that. Way more fun.

Holy shit. All right. Oh, my God. Did we even start? This one. Did we even start? Did we even start? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson. We got two stories out of it, so that's so good. I don't even want to answer. Okay, Tupac or Eazy-E? Eric. Eric Wright. Eric Wright.

Okay. We were close. Right. Yeah. We share bitches. Right. How early? Come meet Eazy? 89.

Oh, I tested negative everybody for HIV. Just so we're clear. He can't be clear of everything. Eric, man, he's a lovable guy. I love that man. Love him dearly. Like, I trusted him with my sister, for Christ's sakes. Like, y'all go have fun.

And he showed me how to shop, how to dress. This nigga took me to fucking South Bay Galleria and set me loose in guests. He was like, man, find your size, man. Stop wearing the khakis and shit. That shit going to get old. I'm going to say both. So we're going to drink. Are you going to drink? I'm going to drink. shit going to get old. I'm going to say both. So we're going to drink. I'm going to drink. I'm going both.

I like that. Cheers. That looks good with y'all drinking. This is a Japanese whiskey. I don't suggest that. Is it Mamiwana in it? It's Mamiwana. That's from Dominican Republic, right?

Why y'all fucking out Cause That shit is made In a toilet bowl Don't listen to him Don't listen to him Yeah listen He made that shit up

Am I gonna be tripped This is some rich shit I'm gonna take Call me And say watch y'all niggas Yeah yeah yeah Take call me Before I come here

He said watch He said watch They had me They had to drag me They had to drag you ask this one. You got to ask this one. Oh, let's see. Ice Cube or Scarface?

Who? Both of y'all. We both got to ask each one. Man, Face is's gonna be mad at me bro do I have to do this we gotta do both if you want both

it could be whatever criteria one of them is your better friend one makes better macaroni whatever whatever your criteria is macaroni

well Scarface Brad Jordan me that's my tour buddy too but I tour with Ice Cube too so it's a this is such a paradoxical fucking question. God damn it.

Yeah, Scarface. I'm going to go Cube. I want to follow in the footsteps, the movies and TV shit. You know what I'm saying? And just the storytelling, all of that, bro. He's legendary. Legendary. Legendary.

Without a doubt. Both of them are legends well I did have fun with Cube on tour we promoted Quick is the name America's Most Wanted at the same time

damn that shit was hard bro we used to open for that nigga bro and he'd come and tear the club up he was that's when he used to do

fucking nigga you love to hate look I'm getting chills this nigga I heard Pape that used to come on in that fucking arena we used to do fucking, nigga, you love to hate. Look, I'm getting chills. This nigga. I heard Pape Dutch used to come on in that fucking arena. We used to be like, good Lord. But, yeah. I mean, Brad's my boy, but.

Wait, you just. No, hold on. Just listen. I thought you were shoe-slopping. I thought you were. I went for whiskey. We really took. We took both because you got one.

I got the. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's fine. Let's take a shot. We good. We good. You want whiskey? Fuck the answer. I want to taste this shit. We really took we took both because you got one Yeah, let's make them let's make let's pick up quick to be the first one. How the fuck did these other two get here? Like, hey, you good. That's crazy. That's crazy. This is Mommy Wanda. What's the next thing that can happen? I mean, we just peed earlier.

We don't go to the bathroom. Mama Wanda's like a tonic. It sells, bro. We don't go to the yacht tonight. We don't. We'll be all right. Okay. You'll be great.

You got this. This is to both of y'all. Daz or corrupt? Thanks. Oh, easily. Corrupt Thanks Oh easily Corrupt I gotta go Corrupt This is my sensei He's the one that grabbed me

Terrace Handed me the Corrupt To like sharpen my tools As far as MCing And shit like that Yeah so Corrupt for sure For sure Did you see the clip of

The one on Dream Champs Yeah I was asking Krupp, how do you feel about Bow Wow and B2K Krip Walker? Krupp was so fucking... He's like, who? And then he was getting mad.

I can see him now. Cuss, don't play with the culture. It's ours, cuss. It's ours. Not c with the culture. It's ours, cuss. It's ours, not cuss. You can die over that, cuss. I can hear him now. He's so genuine, man. Let me tell you something.

I always tell people, I say, you never live life unless you had a slight argument with Kuroa. And just hear him get angry. His passion is not angry fashion. Cuss, cuss, cuss, cuss, cuss. He used the cuss to describe the cuss.

With the cuss, under the cuss, and in between the cuss. He will not take the S out of problems. It's like, problems, cuss, listen here, guys. It's like I'm plural forever. Hey, with him, it's a cuss-tastrophe. Oh, shit. Oh, shit.

Oh, shit. Do we drink tonight? No, no, no. We're going to get caught up. We already know we're going to get caught up. I made it to Dream Champs. Come on, man. Make some noise.

Come on, man. What? What's going on, man? Yeah, I got it. You're going to switch to the other one. So Jay-Z or Nasty Nas? Jigga. Okay.

You have to work with him a couple of times. Easily. Yeah. Both. Can you say that? I drink with you. I can say it. I drink with you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you say both, I drink with you. Jay, of course. That means we all got to drink. Jay is the blueprint. I don't know. We got the OG pass on this one. Jay is the blueprint. I don't know. You got the OG pass on this one. Jay is the blueprint for what I want to do business-wise.

If we want to go just style and fly, that nigga nice, be fresh as fuck. Yes, sir. Ain't like that. I'm going to that. I'm going to both. I got to do the whole shot or the half? Because this is a big ass shot. I mean, it's number one.

It's a big ass shot. It's a health tonic, man. You good. It's a big ass shot. We got whiskey there. Yeah, that got you to it. That got you to it. No, this is the rum. That got me to short runs. You good. It's a big-ass shot. Oh, you got whiskey in there. Yeah, that got you. That got you. No, this is rum.

That got me the short ones. Yeah, because this is a long time. But you could do Mom Home, all kinds of shit. Yeah, okay. All right, look, I'm going to do that. Rockefeller or Rough Riders? Nigga, that tastes like Rummy 1, niggas. Oh, shit.

He's like, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. You can tell he been in the Japan and given money. You can tell. I feel like I've been one day more than me. I love the DR. I love the DR. You can tell he been there one day more than me. Oh, I love that DR, man.

What? They quadding all over the place. Yes, sir. Wait, wait, wait. Rock and fellow or rough riders? Rough riders. Are y'all waiting on me? Yeah.

Fuck. Mmm. Both. Wow. Okay. Yeah, man. Are we drinking again now? Both.

Hey, man. We about to get fucked up. All right. Now I understand the game. If it's both, you drink. Yeah. I mean, I got reason for all this because you got to think. Okay, you can break you drink. I got a reason for all this. You can break it down.

I'm a fan at that time. Right. So from what Rockefeller represents, again, like Jay-Z, I just see great business, great like the branding and all of that. But just like, wow, nigga shit. Oh, you know, I'm from Compton. I love that. Right.

And DMX was like, after Tupac passed, we got something that was not that, but was just no shirt. It was that energy. It was that energy. And what Swizz was doing with Eve and just DNY doing the nigga shit, making sure they nephew ate. I'm into all of that. I think that says both, yeah.

Bro. Okay. So do I get another one? Yeah, I'll do it with this. Come on, cheers. Do it with that one. Do it with that one. Now, here's the ultimate one for y'all I'll do it with this. Come on, cheers. Now, here's the ultimate one

for y'all. It's the cheat code. I'm switching this up again. I didn't tell my Rockefeller story. Wink 1100, shout out to Matt. Wink 1100,

they taught me how to ride those goddamn crutch rockets to where I was standing up wheelieing and being silly on them, you know, 100 mile per hour wheelies and shit.

it's them boys because they just ride hard and I found out through, you know, 100 mile per hour wheelies and shit. So it's them boys because they just ride hard. And I found out through them, through fucking, through my boy, Peter Guns. He brought the fucking, the soundtrack to me

and fucking DMX was rapping on it, on this record, The Usual Suspects. I'm like, who is that person? And he was like, oh, who am I? I read the credits.

It's like, this DMX dude got the best voice in hip credits. It's like, this DMX dude got the best voice in hip hop. It's like, he's going to be the guy, whoever that is. They know,

Def Jam must know because they put the shit out. And then before you know it, this nigga came out and it was like, I was right. He was like the first to do like The Flood.

Like that one and two albums come out the same year was unheard of. Oh yeah, he killed that. At that time, bro. And my boy Jonathan Manion shot his album covers.

That one, Dark and Hot as Hell, I think he had one like that where he was in Blood. Am I talking too much? No, you're not. That record is amazing, bro. He had the one where he's like

in Blood. He was like this. Jonathan Manion shot that shit, bro. He was on his Tupac shit. The shit where he took the, not the Tone Low, but I heard Tone Low do it first. Boom, boom, ba-dum, boom, boom.

Stay hot. Yep. Boom, boom, ba-dum, boom, boom, stay high. Yep. Ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum. I'm banging through, counting like, yo. And with that raspy, hard voice, like it contrasted the beat. Burned all my mind. I'm like, yo, this guy, bro, is crazy, man. Even the girl songs, he had the edge on them, where he was talking about, you gave me that pussy, that ass is getting fatter. I'm like, man. The way even the girl songs, he had to edge on them where he was talking about

he gave me that pussy, that ass is getting fatter. I'm like, yo. And the Damien joints where he's flipping his voice and he's the devil? Storytelling, bro. The storytelling was just so epic with bro, bro. Yeah. Okay. Rest in pieces. Yeah, rest in DMX, man. Rest in peace. I'm going to ask you this quick.

Give me my dog! Kendrick Lamar or Drake? Or Drake? Yeah. Okay. Pour up. Pour me up. Pour me up.

Are you going both? Yeah, pour me up. You going both? I did not think that. I'm going to go both only because I met Drake and I can't diss that guy. I'm not in it. That's what's up. I can't.

Kendrick. Don't talk about none of that, nigga. I'm going to take the middle, bro. Nigga, what's up? Don't talk about none of that. None of that. I'm not doing none of that, nigga. I don't care about none of that. None of that. I'm not doing no PC shit, nigga. What if they want to do a feature with you?

And we're not doing it. God, it's up. You got to think, bro. I'm from that neighborhood. This is a whole different conversation for me. This ain't no rap shit. Like, bro, my sister and him was best friends in high school. So I got a whole different reason on why I'm like this, bro.

I love Draymond. I was the one that was supposed to be restrained. Right, right. high school. So I got a whole different reason on why I like this bro. I love Draymond. I was the one that was supposed to be restrained. Because we not going to do that. I know what we on. We not playing none of that. None of that. And we don't get into him and the pop out and everything. Okay. Because I wasn't there. I'm in Canada.

I was in Canada. Okay, look. Don't swell up on me, bro. I swell up on whoever. I swell up on whoever. We not playing no game. No, that's my thing. I was in Canada, and I played.

I was in Toronto on stage. And my dumb ass. He's it. I played motherfucking like that. I'm taking a shot with you, because you said both. But I played like that in Toronto. I don't think Rick Ross could do that. I'm taking a shot with you because you said both. But I played like that in Toronto. I don't think Rick Ross could do that. I did it.

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Can you remember that? Because I wanted to ask him. Go, go, go, go, go. Okay. According to you, right? The timeline of, because this is now the biggest beef in hip-hop. I want to say the biggest beef. It is the biggest beef.

It's the biggest beef to me, right? It's the biggest battle to me. Lyrically so far. Yeah, even though it is other than this Fowler or whatever, whatever, what I'm saying is that's the loudest for sure.

Content-wise, this is all over. This is everywhere. When you account that we're in a social media age, it's just the way it's just gone. It's crazy. When you account that we're in a social media age, the way it's just gone is crazy. From you being Kendrick's friend, how do you see that timeline of how this happened? Because it couldn't have started with a future record.

It couldn't have started with that. It's just like 10 years old. So as a person that doesn't know, do you know the timeline of... I don't think there ever was a beef. I just think it's still not a Beef it's a rap competition One of the what is it called one of the illest rap competition ever to come talk to our game that I've witnessed so you

know in a timeline being of it That's a Yeah Did you see how this timeline Started It was I just I just you know Drake Is an amazing artist Right

And sometimes Like when you've been Running it for 15 years Like 15 years Like that's unheard of Right You have to start

Smelling yourself Right But you knew not to play with that guy. Man. Like, we've all been in the studio with that guy.

He's too quiet. He's too contemplative. We all know that that guy raps, works out, that's it. Right. Family.

So, for you to not be prepared for what was coming was a slight to his team. He was aloof. In the way they do things. As far as like the beef.

Bad timing, Drake. I just think Dot was like, all right, enough's enough. Right. Enough's enough. Oh, you want this? You drop, drop, drop. You ain't about to back out of this. You antagonizing a nigga that you know lyrically you really can't fuck with.

They call it tickling the tail of the dragon. Because you thought he was going to look at you like, man, I'm doing what I'm doing. Right. Nah. He's getting the motivation. Nah. That dude, he went on his last Grammy rant and he said, all I wanted to do was be an underground rapper. He just said that.

Kendrick. Yeah. Right. That's all, his favorite rappers corrupt. Right. He just want to, he want to rap.

So now it's like, oh, this is just going to be rap. I'm about to go ahead. We're going to do this and we're going to do it in front of the public and we're going to show you something.

I just think, you know, we got to watch what a lot of us already knew. Right. You know what I mean? Again, as far as a beef, like, you guys all went through beefs.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was real. I worded that wrong. Yeah, this never was going to go outside of people getting touched. No, that's over. So now it's just free fall who can rap the best and who has the best. And this time it's about strategy and release and album covers. And who said something?

It's not just the raps. You get what I'm saying? So just strategy-wise, you know, we watched TDE run this bitch for a long time. And now PG Lang, for you to not be prepared, it just says that you must have forgot who you fucking with. He was aloof. He thought he was playing around. He thought that Kendrick receded. And Kendrick was just chilling.

He likes to be alone. He's Kung Fu Kenny. He don't want that. And I think he thought that we weren't going to all rally behind. Because, you know, Drake has a few records with a few people from the city. And he got houses out there. Yeah, I mean, and he can still have them. I play Kendrick Lamar music in Canada.

He can still have them. It's not that. But I think he just thought that we were just going to just, like, you know, side with people that are popular. I believe at one point he was, like, antagonizing them, even posting pictures of his manager, like, when y'all coming back, right? All of that. Like, you ask, like, if a nigga ask to get his ass whooped,

you whoop his ass. Right. From where I come from. Right. Like, at this point, bro, like, you literally were just, come outside. Come on, come outside. You knocking on that door. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Like, all right, bullies get beat up too. Because a lot of people were surprised. So you're telling me you wasn't surprised at all. Not the, no, bro. Not even the least. Man, dude. You knew this was going to happen.

Listen, man, there's just some guys you know. You know what the fuck is being, some guys you just know, just like, because like, bro, I've never seen, like, I've never seen somebody in the studio just all right let's go and you think they're just gonna lay like four bars or like eight this nigga lays the whole song with them weird voices with the stacks it's like bro did you have this already written and this was in 2010 he was doing this this was pre-bag. Right. And that's with distractions. He wasn't as, you know, as zen as he is now. Oh, yeah, bro. It was so dope to watch, you know, Compton do it again.

Nigga. Right. I tried to get him a deal with EA Sports because when they heard the song that he was on that I produced for NBA Live 10, they wanted him. And I'm looking at J-Rock like, bro, what are y'all going to do with this guy, bro? Right. This man's voice is crazy. I produced him. him and i'm looking at j-rock like bro what are y'all gonna do with this guy bro all right this man's voice is crazy i produced him and i was like how do i pay him like who do i pay for this guy like he's the price when ea sports i'm getting chills thinking about it corrupt uh merce the fucking we did the steam song for nba uh nba live 10 and they heard it and they came back my lawyer

was like david they want to Double the price And they want to buy the I'm like whoa Whoa whoa whoa Kendrick did the little Singing on that shit And I'm sure that's why So I go way back with him

Like before he Got his deal And all that shit He was doing section 80 That's funny I love that guy I'm sorry But

Like the way Like everybody Not from California Kind of rallied with Drake Was a little interesting to me Then it is a foreigner, bro Yeah, but and it's so interesting to watch like I get New York niggas in Atlanta niggas all in my goddamn comments and deals like you stupid eat this and I'm like bro bro not even from America this is crazy to watch

But let me ask you a little question question. Let's rock. Because on the new album, you got Game on there a lot. Yeah. Something that I saw personally, like just me strolling in the net, was a lot of California people critiquing Game for like jumping out there and actually like, not, I don't want to say defending

Drake, but like taking up his part of the Ross beef. Yeah. So a lot of California people critique. Game is personally my friend. He's one of my dudes. I looked up. I think he's one of the dopest lyrical people out there. But I'm just asking you this as a Californian.

You know what I'm saying? This is on your side, so I won't be able to... I'm not qualified to decipher this. speculate yeah speculate we all love chuck we love chuck chuck is gonna be chuck game is the reason a lot of us are able to move around in this business he sold a lot of records we all know chuck that's our dysfunctional cousin bro he gonna do what he want to do when he feel like doing it and we love him and we may be

like fuck chuck sometime but can't nobody else say it and that's how that's gonna always be but bro bro has been here before us and he's had a voice longer than us and if that's his opinion man he's a man

he can have that like he told me like bro you know Drake get my kids concert tickets and do all this shit I can't just like in that relationship

and for him that makes sense and then I'm I'm full supportive of game he's on the album he gonna be on anything else i do i'm never finna cut bro off because when she was up for me he was right there with me but in this instance i told him bro chill the out not this one not this one but again game don't listen to nobody and that's part of why we love him too. Right.

You get what I'm saying? So, you know, he explained it and again, that's just... On the blog? Hey, man. Yeah, the blog.

You called it a blog? The live? I'm sorry. On the blog. I saw it on the blog. I saw it on the blog. It was about 17 minutes. I was like, bro,

that's a little long-winded, but I'm fucking with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, you know, that's Chuck, bro. That's Chuck, bro. That's Chuck. Chuck is always going to go left when we go right, but we mean you know that that's chuck bro that's chuck bro that's chuck chuck is always

gonna go left when we go right but we kind of expect that and you know what i'm saying so shout out the game man he's in test he's antagonistically brilliant right because he came to the album and did he destroyed that thank you bro but fuck that that champagne was dope what that's was cartier bro that was first was the car Yeah, and now we always Champagne I've been holding this bottle like you understand Like he brought that city was security. I Was like yo, I didn't Yeah yeah yeah I was like yo

I was like what are they drinking And they said Bubbles I was like finally And I was like you know what And I went and I said no no no Let me go in my vault And I went and I looked at that Cartier

And I said I'm pulling that out You know the bottle for youier shit and I said I'm pulling that out I'm pulling that out because one I want to thank y'all for being classic and being new that balance is so hard to obtain

you know what I'm saying like that shit is like you in this game like me being you know like I'm saying? I'm saying like that shit is like you is in this game. Like me being, you know, like, I'm like, I'm kind of fucking scared to go on the studio with Pharrell because I don't

want to sound like any old shit, but then I don't know. Maybe we can't, maybe we can sound like some new shit, but he got so much going on in my life and I got so much going on in my life. And if I was to tell, if I was to get an opportunity, we get it in my life and if I was to tell if I was to get an opportunity we get it in you know what I was saying I wanted to sound like that

hour man wow I wanted to be like that I want that to be I want I want it to be classic but I wanted to be in this era and that got But we still We still got Come on boy I mean what questions we got I'm loving this Okay okay I got We still got Come on

Okay okay Oh they adding shit At the end These motherfuckers Okay alright yeah They are replacing this The slave driver Yes yes yes

So just so y'all know Those are the people Who write these questions It's the Colombian And Dominican A lot of cocaine over there Just in case y'all ready Just in case y'all ready

I despise cocaine bro It's the worst thing That ever happened But I have to admit It does smell good Okay just in case y'all ready. I despise cocaine, bro. It's the worst thing to ever happen. But I have to admit, it does smell good. Okay. Good one, good one. Wait, you had a cocaine error? What happened?

No. Okay. It's just the funniest word ever. Say cocaine without laughing. You can't not say it. No, it's impossible. We love cocaine stories. We love cocaine stories here.

Okay. Maybe it's Miami. I don't know. We did math here? Please, can I take this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Menace to society or boys in the hood? See, I did the soundtrack on one,

and the other one I'm partial to because I got this chance to see it. I got to do both. There's no way you can break that. Oh, we argue with the same thing Okay, we argue with you do that well here take, I did. Cheers, cheers, cheers. Are you quick, bro? Okay, yeah. Oh, I was ready. For some reason, I feel like y'all both supposed to say both. I'm going to say Boys in the Hood.

Okay, why? Boys in the Hood because I don't gangbang. I never gangbang. I call myself like a civilian with attitude. I like that. And I feel like Boys in the hood represented All aspects of the neighborhood You had the football player

You had the single mom You had the single dad It was more realistic to my story Like I'm Trey In a weird way Menace to society Though I love Like that was the shit my moms was like

Actually niggas in my neighborhood was like Nah you, you can't, you can't do that. We see something bigger for you. So if I had to pick one, I'm going to go with that one just because I was able to relate with that character more than the ones in Minister Society. Okay. Mm-hmm. Shout out to my boy Millie too, man. He was the young kid in Minister Society. Okay.

Get it, bro. All right. Get some more newbies. You got it? Newbies. Yeah. Currency or Wiz Khalifa? I got to go Wiz.

Okay. I got to. Well, if I don't say Wiz Khalifa, I'm never going to his house again. So, Wiz Khalifa. Yes. Okay to his house again So Wiz Khalifa Yes Okay Yeah Yeah And Kushanar's used two on the way

Resoundingly Okay Yeah Kushanar's used two on the way Nas or Jadakiss If I just Nas twice He ain't coming to my house no more I thought you beat him up twice already. No, no, no.

We were supposed to switch that up because remember we said Nas is J.D. I got a gold record with Jadakiss too. I did it. I was on Jadakiss' record when he was on Interscope and it went gold. I got a Jadakiss plaque in my house. I don't have a Nas plaque, so I have to go Jadakiss. Okay. That's tough.

Both. All right, I'm in. I'ma do this one. Okay, I'll do that thing with you too. I'll slow down. Yeah. Yeah, we got a long game here, guys. Both.

Okay. Why we ain't gambling too? This just gonna go good. It go good with like chips. We could add that element to it. We could add some chips chips chips you know some chips DJ quick time with slime quick dice with

dice with slime is fire okay um Nipsey or Draco Nip okay wow I gotta say Nip okay Nip rest in peace rest to say Nip. Okay.

Nip. Personal. Rest in peace. Rest in peace, Nip. CeeLo or Andre 3000? I don't know. CeeLo Green. That's good.

CeeLo. He a part of the album. Come on. That's because. There's some other reasons. Yeah, okay. Larry June or Dom Kennedy? Oh, shit.

Dom. They're both my boys. Okay. Shout out to Larry, though, but Dom. Yeah, it's got to be Dom. That's my boy. Larry June's hard. Yeah.

I think Larry June even choose Dom. No shit. He's that kind of guy. He's multi. He's inspired. He's multi. He inspired the vibe. Larry June is multi.

He's a talented beast. He's a beast. Karis 1 or Rakim? You can't do that to me. You said which one? Karis One or Rakim? You skipped one, too. Did I?

Yeah. Oh, the albums, yeah. Go back. Go back? No, no, no. Karis One or Rakim? Both, because I know them. Okay.

Both. Sheesh. Salo. I'm going to go. We're going to go. Let's go Japanese whiskey this time. Yes. Next one. Okay, next one. I'm in. I. We're going to go. Let's go Japanese whiskey this time. Next one. Next one.

I'm in. I'm in. I like you making it up. I like making up new rules. Next one. Next one. I'm going to go Rakim. Yeah.

Okay. Are you picking? Yeah. Rakim. Quick as a name or safe plus sound? Me? They're the same baby. They just had to contractually. i had to separate them all but i

would have been twins yeah they were all this was that's from one line bro so they're both the same thing to me so both goddamn right both put down a dj quick album and the second one costed seven hundred fifty thousand dollars to record different era i going to go safe and sound because when that came out, I was old enough to understand what the fuck he was talking about. And Summer Breeze is still one of my favorite songs. Thank you, bro.

I love you for that. Yeah. King T or MC8? Hmm. I work with both. They both Compton, right? Yeah. Yeah.

MC8. Go ahead. Tila, my dog, like my friend. Like, I fucks with Tila. I got to go both. King T is such an OG. Man, he is like, bro, I call him the godfather of Compton, bro. Like, I really wish he stood out, just walked outside a little bit more.

And what he inspired with the alcoholics and the whole thing. Man, he inspired Biggie Smalls. Like, bro, that's neat. Yeah, he inspired a lot. King T was like... I don't think he gets enough credit to be honest with you. It's just about coming outside

and taking it right now. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm going to go, bro. Yeah, that was dope. Bro, we got a drink. Yeah, I'm going to drink some champagne.

I didn't want a drink. I was trying to do the thing. But if I say both... You can do this. If I say both, I got to drink, right? I'd already did it for us. We good.

Let's go. You can sip. You can sip. You can sip. How long is this game? Yeah, yeah. I'm going to bring it. I'm going to bring it.

You should have taken tiny shots on purpose, man. I mean, I've been making it too long. This is my pause. It's too long now. But we'll be having fun, though. Okay?

I definitely got to ask you this. Yes. I'm almost positive the to ask you this. Yes. I'm almost positive the way you're going to answer. Digital or analog? It's fucked up because now I can't live without either one of them. If I say digital, my shit might stop working when I get home. That's just sensitive. It's energy.

Analog is harder. It's longer. It's everything. Analog is harder. It's longer. It's everything a man wants to be. Right. Right. Oh, I didn't catch that. My bad. It's just, it's big.

It's huge. It's a movie. It's cinematic. It makes you cry. It makes your skin crawl when you put strings on it. It's just a beast in and of itself. I mean, it's that shit. I always say, I always pick analog because

analog to me, we all had to be in the same room for this shit to work. For it to work. Yeah, it's magic. Was it you that I quoted somebody, and I'm not sure now if it was you, I believe it was you, you said something about analog capturing the energy in the room? That was you that said that, right?

Think about it. We're magnetic. So it catches the energy, the room. It catches the energy. That was you that said that, right? It's magnetic. Think about it. We're magnetic. So it catches the energy, the vibrations of the person too. If you're near that tape machine, you feel the static on it. The static on it, right. Man, it's just, what?

Tape is everything. Like we are, we just released a cassette. Like tape is, tape is it all. Yeah. So, analog?

He's good at doing that, too. He's got a show. He's got a show. He should call it Dream Chats. I'll tell you all the reasons why the other one is great. It's analog forever. He's analog digital. Yeah, just for workflow. Okay.

Like, workflow. Like, workflow is just, like, a lot quicker. We can, like, add analog pieces and then put it into digital but that works great like I think that's what this album did like he got a lot of analog pieces and we're allowed to like run it through analog right a digital space and with the clock speed you have damn near like here in town they're like yes it's like what is this clock universal audio this it stops jitter in the digital field and sonically. It's not a record that you will hear one time and hate it after that.

Like, it's cool, but eh, something about it. It's too loud, distorted, whatever. It's analog clocking. It just stops jitter. It just makes every digital slave master to it. So it mimics analog the best. And that's what it is. It's almost like.

I mean, if you think we're going to understand what you just said, you won. I can break down. I can break down. You sound like MIT professor right now. Basically, the number that you see on the analog machines, like, you know, if you're, like, playing a tape or if you're doing a dance or whatever, there's actually a clock going, right? The clock. Like the millises or whatever, there's actually a clock going, right? The clock. Like the millisecond or whatever. Exactly.

The clocks that are in his actual Mac are the closest to a DAT machine. The closest to an ADAT machine. They're really expensive analog to digital converters. Right. They're just, we call them ADs for short. Are you an engineer at all? No, but I mean, I'm around it so much. You guys are, right?

You're from the west You should come to the studio With me I'll show you that shit Imagine you being able to run Seven programs at once Like imagine like Sometimes The mic will cut off

Or Right right It's too much computing power With his shit You can put up Fifteen different things Be recording Be mixing

Playing a movie Playing iTunes And nothing stops. Like, his shit never crashed. Tap into the ether? Everything, bro. I'm a beast. It's like, the speed, it's so real time, bro.

It's crazy. And the sound of it, when people come in, like, Abso came in, he was like, he said, Test 2, woo-wham, Problem said, do you want us to get it together for you, like, you know, Dolly Man? He said, man, this woo-wham. Problem said, do you want us to get it together for you? Like, you know, Dolly Man. He said, man, this shit sound perfect already. Already.

And only he could hear it in the headphones. He pushed record, and that's what y'all got. One take. One take. Because that's the thing about analog, the warmth that it gives you. Yeah, it's fuzzy. It's warm and wide. It's that alcohol.

Holy shit. Where we at? Bro. Y'all got man? It's that alcohol. Yeah, dude. Holy shit. Where we at? Bro. Y'all got to beep that. He's going to be mad. Bro. Still Dre. Or nothing but a G.

Or nothing but a G. One is the Lowrider record, and one is the record that started it all, that's been voted the number one hip-hop record of all time. Prasad and Nagraj, anybody else? I would have flipped it the way you just said it, but okay. No, G-Think was a good one. I look at G-Think as a low-rider record, though, too. Well, no.

No, no, no. G-Think is a thing that— It was low-riders in the video, but— Maybe that's why I thought of it. No. Still Dre is like the Dre being the drum machine competitor with the staccato piano showing off his shit. But G-Thing is just the fucking syrup that make the pancake bang out, bro.

I'm going to go G-Thing, too. It's G-Thing. You can hear that. I mean, they're both timeless, but G-Thing, I think. Well, life changed. I was lucky enough, because I knew she to get to go to the studio and watch drain them make those records you know Oh so drink to that shit yeah no yeah even if it's not a fine oh yeah fuck it

no I gotta like take it to take a chance for this opportunity um because one of the things that we spoke to MC8 that I asked him, I said, you know, you know, what would happen when, you know, like you performed in front of him and you dissed him. And then he also told us about the time. The thing about the moms. The mom and Suge. Like Suge stepped to him, pulled him over or something like that. Told him like his moms would be safe. Like what is the affiliation with you and Shug? I think he said he was managing you?

Yeah, he was my manager at one point. I mean, he was one of the first people I had ever signed to. You signed to him? Yeah, I signed to him. They had a record label called Funky Enough Records with him and DLC. But he was always good to me. During Ruthless era, right? Before Ruthless.

Before? Before Ruthless. Oh, wow. It was when he broke off. I don't think he was doing security anymore. He got with this guy and got an investor and came and just started signing talent. And I was one of the people he signed. Before Ruthless?

That's bad. I mean, think about it. Look at the timeline. What? I was there. Wow. I was there when 18, 19 18

Dick Griffey wanted me Solar I wish I would have signed with Dick Griffey Solar yeah But he took Dre now Did Solar do something with With Suga as well Yeah they mentored him Solar made him

They used the studio, right? Or am I wrong about that? I'm just being hella reflective when I say. Simon was a part of a lot of that shit. I forgive him. He did some fucked up shit to me. He did some fucked up shit to everybody else, but I'm over it. Contract-wise?

Huh? Contract-wise? I was never signed to him. Okay, okay. But he represented me about a year or whatever. But he was too busy with fucking Jodeci and Pog. It was like, man, I'm going to let you handle that, bro. was never signed to him okay okay but he represented me like like about a year or whatever but he he was too busy with fucking jodeci and pog it was like man i'm gonna let you handle that bro you got your hands full over here i'm over here and do it myself right crazy crazy all those people

like everybody's like crisscrossing but you know i feel like i could talk like this because honestly my coast is united and galvanized so that's which in turn is i think uniting and galvanizing hip-hop around the nation to be honest with you yeah i don't know if you guys see it from that side but i feel like it's doing a lot for the entire we're in the magnifying glass but i love it it's great and the music is dope and like you said my clocks are they're impervious they're the best thing ever they're the best clocks in the game the clocks yo this is the first

alright if you can pick being just an artist or just a producer or just a producer? Oh, man, I'd be a producer. I'm a producer now. Just a producer? You would pick that over?

Would you want to be Quincy Jones or James Ingram? Fuck. Just once. All right. Okay. You're cooking now. So you would pick

being a producer? Motherfucking right. I never wanted to. I'm Jam Master Jay, producer. Motherfucking right. I'm Jam Master Jay, bro. I'm the DJ. I just want to be in the background rocking the motherfucking. That's the allure of the DJ, bro. And dropping the rhythm for the motherfucking artist to just go and be fucking. The most important part is it doesn't have to be seen.

Exactly. And they pushed me out front. The white niggas was like, no, you go do it. You the star. I'm like, I'm the DJ. I can't do both of them. Like, it's just whatever. So, yeah, you can take my rapping and all that shit away.

I'll be quiet. Goodbye, rapping DJ Quake. Damn, I ain't going to lie. I didn't expect that one. And that's what you're going to get. I thought you was going to say boom. You give me alcohol. I really thought you was going to say boom.

I really thought that was the first time. You think I'm going to be sheepish? That's fucked up, though, because it You think me alcohol? I really thought you was gonna say Boba. I really thought that was the first time. You think I'm gonna be sheepish? That's fucked up though because it's like me. I don't get to hear them shit. I'm like, I'm like, come on.

That's what me and you was just going through. Both of our faces was like, because now I imagine a world with just Quick as a producer. And I was like, damn,

I don't know about what I like that world. I'll be John Carpenter, nigga. Yeah. I'll be writing all that shit. I'll be fucking, I'll be Danny Carpenter, nigga. Yeah. I'll be writing dark shit. He's saying John Carpenter. I'll be writing all that shit. I'll be fucking,

I'll be Danny Elfman. I'll be like, He's dangerous, bro. He's dangerous in the studio. Have you scored a movie? Me? No, you that right kind of dangerous. You scored a movie yet?

Yeah, I scored, I scored Head of State for Chris Rock with Marcus Miller. I scored Young J State for Chris Rock with Marcus Miller. I scored Young Jeezy's documentary, like one of his thug motivation. Yeah!

And we got something coming up too right now. Yeah, scoring is the shit. Oh yeah. We do. Can I sit? No.

Let me know. We got something dope coming up Okay Get ready Get ready Okay Pro Tools or Logic

Pro Tools Pro Tools For sure But I started on Logic Can't do both though Nope Nah I can't even look that far back

Alright Cause it eventually still goes to Pro Tools Like no matter what Like they can use Pro Tools is the de facto They use all these other things It's going to to Pro Tools. No matter what, they can use all these other things. It's going to hit Pro Tools. That's the common denominator.

That's the de facto. Mix in our master. That's the de facto DAW. What? Lady of Rage or Eve? I work with both of them. That's not fair. Both.

Okay. Don't ask why. I like that. I like that. Champ't ask why. Yeah, I like that. I like that. So, look. Champagne, champagne, I'm in with that. Oh, man. Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle?

That's not fair. I work with both of them. So, you think both? Both. Okay. All right. And don't ask me why. Hold on.

Just real quick. Can I designate a shot taker for this one? Okay. You can. Jay, could you come real fast? I didn't know you could do that. Yeah, you can do this. I told y'all pre.

Me and my boy Jay here real quick. You want to get just... That's your son over there, David. Oh, I forgot that I did. Okay. Thank you, Jay. We're going, bro. This is Jay.

What's that? The presidential Rolex right there? Okay, I see you. I see you. I see you. I see you. So you got to take this shot. He see you. So you got to take this shot because he said,

I'm going to take this shot. This guy right here is so important. He'll get you a seat. Just sit down. Give him a seat so he can sit down. Oh, to go back a little bit,

I scored John Henry. It was a movie that went to Netflix. It was number one on Netflix. People loved it or hated it, but it's fucking Terry Crews and Ludicrous. It was like a sci-fi kind of thing.

It kept people, you know, kept them entertained during the scamdemic. Okay. Yeah, we're going to take this shot. And we're number one. Jay Worthy. Hey, I already took mine. Yeah. Yeah.

Woo! Hey, that's Mommy Wanda, bro. Crazy. I ain't going to hold it. What's a Mama Wanda? That's your joint. That's what your joint is. I Wanda, bro. Crazy. I ain't going home. What's up, Mama Wanda? That's your joint. That's what your joint is. I think you good right here.

I was right here. Don't go over there. That's big. EFN, am I wrong? No, no. This takes you to another place, though. I know. I'm already there.

People do religious ceremonies with this shit. Dig it. I missed my bus stop one stop ago. Nah, I fuck with that shit, though. When I'm out there, it's like that shit. Yeah, no. It's their national drink. I feel like I stop one stop ago. Nah, I fuck with that shit, though. When I'm out there, it's like that shit. Yeah, no, it's their national drink. I feel like I'm in the Caribbean. Okay.

Exhibit or Razzcast? It's for you, bro. Exhibit. It's my dog. Like, that's my dog. Like, that man, that man the last six, seven years of my life has changed it. Just with conversations, man, like on a personal level. He teaches me, like, man shit bro you know what i'm saying like like right now

we're trying to work out something with some other players together his album is coming out it's phenomenal i wish he stopped pump faking it yeah he's been like he's been double dutch all his albums over there put that. X, put that shit out. But X, for sure. On some personal shit. Okay. Yes, sir. You want to answer?

You want to weigh in on it? Yeah, I guess people can't see my face on the radio. Fucking X, because X is the brother that I do shit like this for he's working on his new record and he has a Sony C800 condenser microphone and the microphone breaks so we go to the studio and he's got this

Neumann shit up there and I'm like what the fuck's going on like he was like feeling like you know like his Ferrari got a bon bum tire on it. And I took his broken microphone like, bro, you can't do this because it's not going to be consistent. Quality control, me kicked in. It's not going to be consistent with the other songs.

You're going to have to rerecord anyway because they do two different things. He was like, so what? So I gave him my Sony C800, took his to my specialist who repaired it over maybe a month or two, but it didn't change his flow. I just subbed him mine. And those microphones are like $15,000 a piece.

So I do shit like that for my boy. And he continue recording this Brilliant ass record he's talking about Shit crazy It's a fucking It's a movie It's the funnest thing ever It's his best work in a very long time

And I worked on the rest of the selfie I got a platinum plaque for that But this shit It's like a monkey party You talking about records that haven't come out yet The album he has and he's sitting there holding. Oh, yeah. Put it up.

Come on. It has to be. Dre is fastidious when it comes to judging a record, and you wouldn't want anything else. Let him critique you. Let him get the last fucking word because he's not wrong, and he hasn't been. So that's what you have to do. Yeah. But this record is

gonna come out and it's gonna be fucking fire y'all gonna trip it's just it's hot to ask yeah that's my homie shot my boy rats to yeah yeah you can't get this one wave plugins wave plugins or Universal Audio plugins I use both but Universal Audio is the reason that I'm part of the sound that's what i'm gonna get you for christmas these clocks they finally got them better than antelope which are really finite really accurate low jitter low digital smear clocks i'm about to buy him one universal audio all day shout out to bill putnam and bill putnam jr i love y'all fucking music y'all the reason that i'm no i'm gonna get a a Grammy at some point because of the sound.

So thank you. I hope you're getting into the tech space. The way you're talking about all these things, you need to get a part of this tech space and get that money as well.

I'm Dave Jobs. Good. Get it. All I'm going to say is stay tuned. We'll be all right, bro. Yeah. Okay.

H-O. Yeah, you got it. Kanye or Dre? Dr. Dre? Yeah. That's not even... Kanye's a little me. Okay. H-O. Yeah, you got it. Kanye or Dre? Dr. Dre? Yeah. That's not even, Kanye's a little me. Right. Like, he sampled my, he told me, I sampled your music, I sampled your drums.

I'm like, thanks, Jay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she was uncomfortable. But Dre. But it's really both. I ain't going to hate you. I know you're going to be like Dre all day, but Kanye was never mean to me, so both. I'm actually going to say Dre Dre all day, but Kanye was never mean to me, so both. I'm actually going to say

Dre. But I would love to see a Dre versus Kanye versus Wow! That would never happen. I don't think it'll ever happen. I'm just saying I would love to see it. I do think Dre will win,

but if I watch this thing Oh my I think I think that would be In a parallel universe Oh my god You talking about as a fan There is this battle

I get to watch And all the And then the artists That will come out On the records Look Fuck even the songs The way the stage

Will be set up for both Oh Like you saw You know how Dre did Superbowl Of course How Ye does his thing? Like, letting them get to that size of thing. I never even thought about that.

What? And again, I'm taking Dre, first of all. Right, right, right. But I would sit there and be like, yo, this probably the most amazing thing I've ever seen in my life. In my life. In my life.

He's like a promoter right now. You're a promoter? My life shit, I love it. Nah, I'm a fan, bro. I don't let myself get so lined up in this music shit. But he said both, so we got to drink. Yeah. I don't let myself get so lined up in this music shit, I forget what I like. Ain't nobody trying to make you like nothing else.

You got the gloves on. You all right? You straight. You straight. No, man. I love them both, man. Kanye loves me, man. Okay. Game or Rick Ross. No, man. I love them both, man. Kanye loves me, man. Okay.

Game or Rick Ross? Oh, shit. I got to go game. You talking about like better rapper or like one pick? It's whatever for you. It's whatever. Game. Game.

I'm biased. Okay. I'm biased, bro. I respect that. For sure. I'll take Hurricane. Okay. Mm-hmm. That's right. I mean, I think we- I'll take Hurricane. Okay.

That's right. I mean, I think we... We already said MJ and Prince. Yeah. I stole that question early. I didn't even know if you had that. Why y'all ain't ask Magic versus Bird? Like, them kind of questions. I'm in.

Magic versus Bird? You already know there's going to be Magic. He's like, if it's a shot in there, whatever. Uh-uh. I'm not getting into that one. I'll go Kobe versus LeBron, though. I mean, Kobe over MJ, for sure. Kobe over MJ, for sure.

Easy. You picking Kobe? For sure. Okay. What do you mean? He did more with less. Yeah. It gets generational.

Listen, man. It gets generational. I fuck with you, but this can get crazy if we do this, okay? No, I'm staying out of it. Okay.

That's what my face was. I wish the sports channel I could tell you what it is. It's real easy. It is definitely Kobe Bean over Michael Jordan

because we tried to say hi to Michael Jordan at the MGM Grand Hotel and he sunned us so bad. I felt sub. I felt mid. He got stories. He got stories.

But I've always had fun with Kobe whenever we hung out. Like, Kobe, I did, like, Kobe was hip-hop. toy drives and shit type shit. Bro, some ho shit. Wait, but hold on. Tell us what happened with Jordan.

Tell us. No, that's it. He just didn't want to fuck with us. I just wanted to go say hi to this dude because he was in there being a hot. This dude was gambling. I wanted to talk about his excessive gambling, but half a million dollars in like over the course of just a couple hours is like, are you just showing off? I know you can dunk, but that's how you feel about your money. He was gambling, motherfucker.

That was just weird to me to see that at that young age. I know you can dunk, but that's how you feel about your money. He gambling, motherfucker. That was just weird to me to see that at that young age. I could have did so much with that money. So what happened? You tried to- We tried to approach him. He wasn't fucking with us. He was like, them niggas stay away from us. He's like, get these niggas away from me.

I don't do niggas. And I was like, hey, he's right. On you. Fuck it. Jeez. That's what Nori's story. Nori has his own story. Wait, wait, wait.

What's your story? What's your story? He went by I'll look it up. I'll look it up. I'll look it up. Kobe gave me some shoes. Kobe gave me some

signed shoes when he was eight. Yeah, yeah. Number eight. I never wore them. Yeah, mine's all hoop. It's all hoop. It's just Michael Jordan

has never won a playoff series without Scottie Pippen. Okay. Like ever. You got some real sports shit just now. I'm just saying like he said it's all hoop. It's just Michael Jordan's never won a playoff series without Scottie Pippen. Okay. Like, ever. You got some real sports shit just now. I'm just saying, like, he said it's all hoop talk. He's never won a fucking, he's never got out of the first round. You see, I can see how you've been coping.

I'm just telling you. You're thinking balls. He was ready for the argument. He never got out of the first round ever without Scottie Pippen. Scottie Pippen was a lob away from the championship. They won 60-something games the last year before he went retired. All right, what you got? You got something to say?

No, they won 72. Nah, I'm talking about. You got to take those glasses off. That beatnik that you made. Y'all got to let me laugh. What just happened? I'm talking about the year before he retired, they won high 50s, late 60 games, right? The year he retired, Scottie pippen wins 55 games right what happened almost went to the finals

right right game seven bro like out of time he's saying that scotty Pippen got shitted on legacy-wise? No, that has nothing to do with Pippen. This is about Jordan. I'm saying, could we say that as well? No, I'm just talking about Michael Jordan never winning a playoff series without that one guy. And we can't say that about Kobe. That's why you're saying Kobe is the better one.

Kobe did it with Shaq. Then he did it with Luke Walton. Like, it didn't matter who he was with. I'm just saying, though, these are the facts. Wait, Kobe ain't doing it with LeBron James. Kobe may never play with LeBron James. That's the facts. You are the smartest.

You're the smartest tool in the shed. My dog. You the drill with the loose screws. Bro, you hard. Hey, man. Be proud of your, you hard. Hey, man. Be proud of your son, bro. Hey, bro. But remember, we're not talking about Jordan.

Jordan is, you know, six for six. But I'm just saying. So LeBron here, LeBron here. Exceeds. Exceeds. I'm just saying. It's a great argument. Well, don't just say it.

Say it. No, I think Michael Jordan has better shoes. Right. So that's a great argument Just say it I think Michael Jordan Has better shoes That's a fact He has better shoes for sure All basketball players He has better shoes But when it comes to that hoop shit

Like 12 men First year That's crazy bro We're talking about the man He's been dead for four years, right? Kobe? Yeah, right? What's the last two years of this millennium?

Where are we living in? What year is this? 24. Hmm. Oh. It's deep. Okay. It's simple.

It's not deep. It's Kobe here. Kobe! Yeah, man. I'm telling you, we're going to leave that alone. You know what I'm saying? But I've talked this conversation

with a few people and it's just like, it's not that far as everybody try to say it is. Right. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, Kobe made a miracle for all the little Lakers kids.

I said, test your head. I said, hold on. To test your head? Mm-hmm. I mean, Shaq. I remember Shaq. He said, look through this top. To test your head? Mm-hmm.

Shaq. Yeah. I don't want to take your head, bro. Machiavelli or Me Against the World both of y'all I tried to like get cross-eyed and look both of y'all in the eye at the same time I used to think Machiavelli because it came after

All Eyes on Me which was the album that I mixed a lot of not all of it then Dr. Dre mixed them you can't See Me and California Love and sent that shit into the front room and made the speakers almost catch on fire.

Dr. Dre be putting speakers on fire. Let's talk about Mac. Macavelli. Blasphemy, one of my favorite Tupac songs ever. It's horribly mixed. It's ratchet. It's like the vocals are fucking... Macavelli you, it's, it's like, it's like the vocals

and fucking like. Wait, Machiavelli you talking about? Machiavelli, but Blasphemy, the song, number five. Oh, okay. My favorite Tupac song ever. I didn't mix it. That's why it sucked. That shit was crazy. Who mixed it?

I don't know. It sucked? You crazy. Not the, he said the mix. He said the mix. I'm talking to you. That's crazy. The mix sucked. But that's what you liked about it. You liked the roughness. I think that's what I fucked with. You could tell it wasman, The Mix suck. Rob Markman, But that's what you liked about it. You liked the roughness. I think that's what I fucked with about the Mixes. Rob Markman, You could tell it was like, you could tell it was just like, that nigga was

really mad that day. Even if it was Mix, he was just yelling through the shit. Send me some of that record. Let's play it right now. Let's play it. Play it right now. Play it up. Nobody got to take a piss about me every time.

Hey man, I'm too much into this shit. I can't move. I can't move. I can't move. And I'm trying to think, what's your record? And you know what's fucked up about that? When you said Machiavelli, you know what's fucked up?

I didn't know music by names at that time. I was like, I would be like number 17 or number 12. I said number 5. I'm thinking of the numbers. That was a CD era. I'm thinking of the numbers.

Which one is this one? That was fucked up. You remember that era? That lets you know we old. Number 5 on your CD. I like how you call it an era. Yeah, that was that error. You don't remember? That's a CD error.

Man, the bass line drop and you hear, don't start that blast again. That shit just, yo, yo. You got it? They say Jesus was a calm man. You understand? The record sold three million units like that. But the mix wasn't dope.

It needed, there was some magic it needed. Hey. I did this on my five. Listen, my heart is pure. It's, there was some magic it needed. Hey. I did this on all five. Listen, my heart is pure. It's happy. Just another joint. Oh, my God. It still should have been mixed.

You motherfuckers did so much profits that we knew that mix was fucked up. You just said it. Yo, now I can hear it. It's horrible. Oh, it's terrible. It's terrible it's terrible it's terrible

I didn't even beep that dude that was great it was terrible like distorted vocals he's spitting

the shit though he's talking it made it where I had to listen to the words who produced that record I think like

one producer did that project he mixed it and produced the whole project it was hard to listen to after we had just did all that work on mixed it and produced it. The whole project. Yeah, it was hard to listen to after we had just did all that work on All Eyes on Me. It was like, and he died too.

We had to listen to what he did. It was like, don't die, just come on vacation. Right. It was the same. Stop working yourself to death. Put some furniture in this mansion. Right. Yeah.

You know? Pac, you talking about? Yeah. I wouldn't even be a homebody. He said that makes me terrible. I didn't understand. Yo, until you said it. And then he said, and then I was like, all right, cool.

You know what it was? That album was so disruptive. Like that's- Oh, that's a new word. Yeah. And it was on one. Yeah, it was. It's just jointed.

They went fucking with that. They went fucking with that. But it was dope. So we, everyone still had to listen. Like, it was. It's disjointed. They went fuck with that. They went fuck with that. But it was dope. So everyone still had to listen. Yeah. Like, no disrespect to Drake. I love Drake. But I know he got to like Not Like Us, too.

Like, I know he got to like it. It's like, because this is just a dope record. So even if somebody- I didn't say that. I like how you put that, Nori. Like, sometimes the shit is just dope. It's just like, yo, like you just said. Like, you and I'm eight going at it.

Like, there's a line that you like a his that he said about you. Yeah. And it's like, yo, like you just said, like you and I'm eight going at it. There's a line that you like a his that he said about you. Yeah, it was mean, but that record was a high record. Like he went gold with that record. This record against me, yeah. Really? Yeah.

He fucked me. I was in some random hood when I heard the record too. Like somebody said, I'm in the left. I got an iFox phrase. I got 18 fucking A-Z rims that look like movie rules. I'm fly the Lexus shit I got iFox sprays I got 18 fucking A-Zep rims

Look like movie reels I'm fly as fuck I got a Nevada watch An EZE bought me And I listen to this nigga In fucking the IE In an apartment building This nigga getting off on me

And somebody's I'm listening to it I'm in the IE Hot as I'm hot as fish grease I'm like This nigga's getting me again I thought we just talked

I said let's not diss each other So we can fuck this shit I'm hot as fish grease. I'm like, this nigga's getting me again. I thought we just talked. I said, let's not diss each other so we can fuck the source. We wanted to, I wanted to fuck the source magazine up because they was just eating off that shit,

all our beefs. So I was like, bro, let's just do a record together and just fuck them up. He was like, chill. I was like,

chill. Yeah, fuck it. But he had already finished the diss song so he couldn't tell me that because I would have been irate. I don't know.

Or whatever. Like, the real shit. It was like, but it's still dope. But it ended up like the record came out. He couldn't say that. He didn't already shoot at me. The bullet just hit me after he left. Right, right.

That just stemmed from, like, No Vaseline, though. That kicked off. That record let me know it was cool to be completely disrespectful. To be, man, to be brutally disrespectful. Damn, I'm glad y'all said it. And he dissed him all the way to the

end when the record goes off. He's still talking about the year when the record goes off. We talking about No Vaseline? Yeah. No Vaseline is the title of the record is disrespectful. Right. Yeah. You know, I didn't know that terminology, what he meant.

He said you can't be the name of a life group with a white tone. I didn't know. Yeah. And to see them flip on each other, that shit was like... But they loved each other, because Cube ran into Eazy in New York. And he was like, it's business. You do what you have to do. And Cube said he wanted to work with Dre for his solo project.

I just found that out too. Yeah, yeah. That Hank Shockley and Keith Shockley kind of got that. It just happened. It just happened to happen. What he did with Public Enemy, that album that he did. Yeah, yeah. America's Most Wanted.

It just happened to happen. Imagine if that would have been a Dre production. He was looking for another producer, but he really wanted Dre to produce it. Wow, imagine he would have been dissing him and still having Dre produce for him. That wouldn't have happened. Oh, no. Because he wasn't dissing him on that record. But they came at Q first.

America's Most Wanted was a new chapter. They came at him with the Benedict Arnold stuff. Yeah, they did it 100 miles and running. He was calling Benedict Arnold. But it was a lot of shit. It was just like, you know, now it was full because the three couldn't make it. Like, we watched that beef and hated it the whole time. I was hanging out with Eazy while it was beefing.

It was like, this is weird because I just seen, you know, I fucking watered the Bush Club all just kumbaya. Everybody was chilling. Like, nigga, everybody was there. Like, all the NWA, Ren, everybody. Well, Ren wasn't there. I'm exaggerating. But Yellow was there.

Dre was there. Q was there. And Eazy was there. Do you think because it was the time it took to, like, get records out, like, they were able to, like, but Yellow was there, Dre was there, Q was there, and Eazy was there. Do you think because it was the time it took to get records out, they were able to- There was a lag. They probably- Their body was set to come out maybe two, three months before. They had to press vinyl up.

They had to press vinyl. Exactly. Then they done fixed it by then. It's like- Probably one of the greatest conversations on Dream Camp's ever. They had to do laggers and all that stuff. That was wild. They had to do mothers.

The white label was the leak. Bro. Right. So that took at least two months to get- mothers. The white label was the leak. Bro. Right. So that took at least two months to get it. Two months. At least a couple weeks for sure. The fashion is six weeks.

To do that volume. If you were the sports to beat and it would have still been on because you could do it. You could do a test pressing lacquer. And you still thought I did that. But I did. That was crazy

because I'm going to tell you like this. When we did L.A. L.A. That's the answer to New York, New York? Yeah, this was the answer to New York, New York. I'll drink to that. Prodigy. Prodigy.

The only verse that even sounded remotely because we didn't know. It didn't sound like a diss. It wasn't a diss. It was just a response. The title was a diss. It was a response like New York, New York, L.A. L.A.

But what I'm trying to tell you is Prodigy, his verse was the only verse that's referred to LA. None of us said LA. And the intro. No, we just copied them back. The intro was disrespectful.

They was like, what's up? What's up, God? So we was just imaging it back. We was like, what's up? So there was nothing on this but Prodigy said JFK on our way to LA and

by the time the record came out Prodigy took the verse off and he said he didn't want to be a part of the record and then when he didn't

want to be a part of the record that's when Hit Em Up came out and he was like I want to be a part of the record again but it was too it was that too and he was like, I want to be a part of the record again. But it was that two months He was the only one who took his

verse off, but then he was the only one that Pac actually attacked. Think about it, because when Pac is hearing the original version, if Pac would have waited in two months that we have now to did you. They got lost in translation. There would have never been a hit that we have now, the digital... They got lost in translation. They would have never been...

They would have never been... They would have been hitting them up, but they wouldn't have been dissing Ma Deep and they wouldn't have been dissing Nas. Nas, yeah.

The Nas thing got fixed before the album came out, too, right? Yes, yes, yes. Y'all just happy. Yeah, but what I'm saying is that two-month span that we talking about,

that's why I love your answer when I say analog and digital because I love analog when it comes to music, when it comes in time, like for us doing a record. If I get a DJ quick beat, I want to be in a studio with him. You know what I'm saying? But then I like analog because sometimes you got to fix some shit. Or digital. I mean, I like digital, excuse me, because sometimes you got to fix some shit in real time.

So, yeah, that's the funniest shit in the world. That's what made the beef with Dodd and Drake. Because it's real time. It was like, bloop, bloop, bloop. It's like utilizing the strategy of the internet. I remember being up that night and the records was coming out. I'm like, this is different. They were both kings of the internet.

Because I ain't going to lie to you. I was waking up every morning, going downstairs. I live on a beach. This doesn't matter. But I go downstairs, and I was drinking my little coffee. And I'm like, which one is Drop the Record now? And I'm being downstairs by myself and just drinking coffee. And everybody responding on Twitter in real time.

The fans, the people involved. That's different. Back then, it was mixtapes. And you had to respond on a magazine. By the time you went to record it to get it mixed. But both of them are king internet so that's the reason why like i mean i don't know if that was a word but um yeah but like they they knew how to use the internet so that shit was ill like i said this was the biggest rap battle you corrected me i said hashtag king internet we

mean rap beef like a rap battle we don't. We don't mean beef as in street beef. And I've never been anywhere in the world and everyone was talking about that shit. I didn't care where you was at. But we got to go back to you and MCA. What I think is so dope is that it was actually a real problem at one point. And the most beautiful thing is

that you guys are both friends today. And I think that's amazing. And thank God for that, man. Yes. is that you guys are both friends today and I think that's amazing and thank God for that man let's be clear, we all pray for Kendrick Lamar and Drake to end like that as well you know what I'm saying greatest moment of hip hop is seeing

him and MC8 together, great moments of hip hop is seeing you know, Common Sense and Ice Cube together but we don't hip-hop and seeing, you know, Common Sense and Ice Cube together. But we don't know. This is different times, different ways that this all... This nigga got a lyric on our record.

No water, please? Sorry. Okay, cool. He got a lyric on Chupacabra. Okay. Chucky, what's his... Talk about it. Chucky Plucky out,

independently speaking. Because they call you Chucky, right? Chucky Plucky out. I was telling Boris that because I say Chachi all the time. If we see each other, it's still a lie. Stop pretending we're beefing.

Chachi Plaki out. Oh, you have no way, John. I didn't hear that. If we see each other in public, stop pretending we're beefing. That's not a beef. We done lost too many people for real. We don't like to be like

playing like that. You know what I'm saying? We just rapping. It ain't deep. It's not supposed to be. It's not going over your head. You know what I'm saying? We just rapping. It ain't deep. It's not supposed to be. It's not going over your head. You know what I'm saying? We're not beefing if we disagree publicly.

I don't not like you personally, but we human. I don't have to agree with everything you do. Absolutely. You ever beef with somebody on a record and regret it? I mean, everybody's been through shit in this. You know what I'm saying? But no, because ain't nobody died. And I ain't went

sending nobody after nobody ain't nobody send nobody after me i've been in competition since i started you know what i'm saying but nah hell no i don't do that kind of stuff but do we feel we live in different times where there are artists they they kill each other i feel sorry. I ain't going to say feel sorry. I just don't agree with the danger on that side of being a young artist in hip hop. I don't agree with how mortal it is. It's a fucking, it should be fun. Like, why are you not having fun in the formative years of your life like what's this like the little kids that just got shot going live i can't here in florida i'm not that's some bullshit yeah like i got kids right now that want to be they're young and they

want to dye their hair like xxx and she on right you hear me little kids like that don't they want to relate to that that's like their og almost because that's been said because he's like a martyr to them that's who they want to be like like so you know how do you martyr a hip-hop artist like stop that shit like that should never happen so that's him too bro because like he was the first like red flag guys like industry-wide he went through a whole lot of shit you know what I'm saying as far as

but I don't have PTSD none of that shell shock shit it's just what it is man I mean you know I wanted to be EMS for Christ sakes so

I see it's just another way but you think the difference is social media that it's in real time and that's the only dangerous shit ever are you kidding like that's

that's the only difference drop a dot and it's in your location so we can scrap. That gives you too much time to do something negative. It's like, that's not right. You know? And why does it have to be the most mortal business that there is when, you know, it's more dangerous than being a fucking, like, a skyscraper builder. You know, a motherfucker walking fucking I-beams. How can it be more dangerous than that when it's a fun game?

It's supposed to be an entertainment. Exactly. It's to be exactly right just music bro just jams like exactly make the party song don't do the new 50 cent disc record hey y'all i'm gonna put i'm gonna share this and i hope y'all take it to the young people out here and to the camera directly if you want to be like a artist in this music business and you want a nickname, don't do like us. Don't put the word gangster in your name because you're going to have to answer to that shit. By the street. Might not make it too long. So don't give yourself stupid nicknames like, you know, Young Dead 101.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Because it's going to end up happening. Words become things. So pick your own nicknames wisely and rock out i'm dj quick right it's a good nickname say jason martin artist for sure yeah but don't dish your homeboys don't diss the hood don't put a dot on yourself don't become a target it's that's it's counterintuitive you want to live as long as you want to be old. We ain't trendy, but I'm old. Yeah, but you want to be able to say that you got old too.

That's how that works. That's it. That's all. That's all. That was all. You still on QuickTime? Yes, we are. Slow time with Slime.

That's beautiful. I love it. We got the luxury, right? Oh, shit. Where the fuck did they send it? It's a mountain. Motherfucker, Icicle is going. All right.

Did we do NPC yet? Yeah. We did it? We did it. NPC 2000XL or NPC 3000? Ask him. 2000. That2,000. That's so gangster.

Yeah, $2,000. It's like the next one up, it's kind of too many options. It takes away from when you actually hit pro tools and you can't fuck around too much. It's like when you're touching them pads, you want to be at a like. There's something about the real time on the touch that's still there in the 2000. That's not there in the one after that. Like, I like that joint that Dom used. I don't know what that is.

That's a live. That's an NPC live. Yeah, that's probably the closest. But if you like really done dialed in in the NPC, it's something about that one that still kind of holds. Yeah, like, yeah, Cat, he still pull that joint out. Like, the ones that, like, really know how to, like, touch it, mm-mm.

They ain't mimic that right there yet. You know what I'm saying? That was the last one. Okay. I heard that. Is it my turn? Yeah.

Shout out to Jackie O'Donnell, CEO of Akai Electronics. And you stunned on us. Right. You went deep. You went deep. It's always class. That's why you just sit and listen

and get the message. Maybe talk about the CEO. Thanks, man. Shout out to Dr. Roger Lin. Oh, shit. For making the NPC 3000. Shout out to Jackie O'Donnell for letting me help

design the NPC Renaissance. Woo! I was a part of the beta testing team for that machine. Wow. for letting me help design the MPC Renaissance. I was a part of the beta testing team for that machine. Wow. So was Teddy Riley. Wow. We helped build the Renaissance, and we wanted it to be just like the MPC 3000,

because it already was a 2000 because it was digital. Well, as we say, it was a sound card. You couldn't put anything in it. It wasn't a standalone. And we also made it sound like the SV-1200, the pushable button. And it had real-time cues where you can do all your edits just right on the fly, time-stretching

already. And now, you can upgrade it to stems if you want. But the 3000? I whooped niggas' ass in the dark with that motherfucker. I mean, in the club came off that motherfucker. Safe and sound. Way too funky.

All eyes on me. Fucking Janet Jackson's record. Fucking, oh my God. Dollars and cents. Fucking, wait, hold on. Whitney Houston, Deborah Cox. Tony, Tony, Tony, let's get down. It's getting crazy.

R. Kelly, Home Alone. Hold on. Hold on, there's more. And wait, there's more. And there's more. Oh, my God. Sugar Freeze album. The thing I did for Jermaine Dupri

on the fucking Life of 1471 album. God damn it. All of these. What else? Fucking Snoop Dogg, Warren G, Mossberg. Fucking all the soundtrack shits. All the fucking, what did I do? How to Be a Player, Menace to Society.

All that shit came off that dumbass drum machine, bro. The 3000 or the Renaissance? The 3000. The Renaissance is the one I helped design. The Renaissance is like- What was your first beat machine? It was a 606, TR606 by Roland, what's that little subsidiary name? The little boss, B-O-S-S.

I had a boss TR-606 in 1985. Nope. But I also had access to a Lindrom, the same one that Prince used in 1994 at the studio in Hollywood. In 1984, studio in Hollywood. You wanted to... Jeez! What is it? Nevi or Avalon? You just asked it.

Neve? Yeah, Neve. Yeah, Neve. Well, I had Avalon BT-737 SP and they're dope. They just... The tubes go out and they're kind of sometimes fussy

to get tubes for them. Neve, Rupert Neve, was one of the greatest electronic designers ever, bro. His slew rates on his motherfucking Neve 1073 are to be admired. He's the reason that Nirvana's records sound like that forever and a day. Neve is the shit. And that's the preamps that we use for this Chupacabra album.

I use Neve. Wow. Before digital, before the Apollo, before the interface, I used it before that. I get the sound outside and it's a fucking ISO 1 Focusrite preamp is a fucking, Celine Dion

eat that motherfucker. She stopped being stiff on that bitch. What? I wasn't joking. Producing or rapping, both of y'all? I asked him that already. Oh, you did? I didn't ask you that. I don't think you answered it. I asked him that already.

Because you are a producer, bro, and we need you as a producer. Yeah. Bang, go ahead, bang. Light your firework. I started as a producer, but I don't know, man. There's something about that stage, bro. Yeah. Intoxicated.

Something about that stage. I almost knew he was going to say producer, and I almost knew he was going to say rapper. I think because if I can be a rapper while he produces, I can be my best version of a rapper. If I'm a rapper and the producer isn't producing me, then I have to become the producer. Then I can't be my best version of a rapper. This project, Rosecrans, is where I've sounded the best

in my whole career because I didn't have to octopus it. I got to octopus. I got to make the beat. I got to mix the beat. I got to fucking think of how the video going to look, what I'm going to wear,

all of this shit that you have to do when you're an independent artist. So with this, I can literally just be like, all right, he can eat 40 and just tell me where to go.

Bro, I'm my best in that. So I would say rapper. Hard. Rapper, for sure. Hard, sure. I knew it. Well then, if you're going to do that, right here on Drink Chance, which is just starting the group, would say rapper for sure. Hard. Well then, if you're going to do that, right here on Drink Chance, which is just starting the group,

1DMC. 1DMC. It's this nigga right here. 1DMC. 1. 1. You heard it first. How'd y'all come up with Chupacabra?

This guy. That's his storyline. He's finished champagne. So shout out to good luck, formerly known as bad luck, my partner and Ron. We used to just play around, like we'd be riding on road trips or whatever. I'd be like, yeah, I've seen four Chupacabras in my life.

He said that to you? I would say that to him. He said it. He was like, man, shut the fuck up. I'm like, yeah, anytime you go down my other drive, they like right here and right here. So that was just a joke. In L.A.? Right.

It was a joke. Okay, all right. So we going through mountains. I heard of chupacabras in places, but I don't know L.A. Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico is the most popular one. I've seen four. You've seen four.

What he did was make, he went and did his homework on what it was and then I told him so I always just like man I should call something that either a shirt some like a beverage or whatever

just had the name wrote down so then when we were doing the project I'm like bro what the fuck we gonna call this shit you know what I'm saying

so I'm thinking I'm like oh the one thing that all the goats are afraid of oh wow the goats are afraid of wow the goats

oh I like it they also attack cows and all that other shit but the first thing was goats so it was more so like again like we've been like the guys that been in the studio that handles the tech part of it.

Or the other stuff of it. You know what I'm saying? The idea handlers. You know what I'm saying? The thought leaders with other people. So it's like, well, shit, man. Let's get all the true recoverers together and let's just put out a project. So this is no slight to who you think a GOAT is or whatever. But that was the play of it. That's just put out a project. So this is no slight to, like, who you think a GOAT is or whatever.

But that was the play of it. That's just dope, bro. The one guy is that all the GOATs are very aware of when it comes to that studio. Right. And I think that's where we, like, bonded at. You know what I'm saying? So that was it. And then it was like, you know, get with Jay.

It's crew. Let's kind of, like, brand it out. But, yeah. That's dope. I like that. I really like that. That was a, and then it was like, you know, get with J.A. and his crew. Let's kind of, like, brand it out. But, yeah. That's dope. I like that. I really like that. That was a great breakdown. I would never have thought that, neither.

Okay. I thought it was because Quick being Dominican Republic. I did Mama Juana. You did Mama Juana. That's Mama Juana. That's Mama Juana. Different. Put yourself on the fucking candle, yeah.

Look at this fucking guy. You be doing the Mama Juana. Yeah, it is the Mama Juana. Holy shit. Okay. Boom. You know what? We're going to show this one. This is for both of

y'all. This is what we asked to everybody. And I'm not going to leave the witness. Yeah, don't leave the witness. Loyalty or

respect? Wow. Well, on mine, I haven't been devoid of loyalty. I want my respect. Mm-hmm. Loyalty is fleeting. Motherfucker can change over you overnight.

You don't even know, you waking up with, be putting a different pair of pants on because somebody sold you out. All right. Respect me. All right. I got my eye on all you suckers. All right.

My thing is, like, if you respect me, you loyal to me. And if you love to me, it's because you respect me. So they kind of go hand in hand. I think one without the other is still fake. I agree with you. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? Those are kind of like them are kissing cousins at the end of the day. They both

got to be there or I'm tripping. I'm taking a shot for that. That's exactly how I feel. We always want both. We always want both on that one. Why we got to choose? Well. She got the ball there.

Yeah. I'm scared of this hash joint, my bro. Oh, yeah. I hit him. I'm like, ooh, okay. We're not playing. Let's talk about you. Better watch yourself.

Ooh. Hard. What's that? What with that? Dead. Let's talk about you. Better watch yourself. Ooh. Hard. What's happening? What with that? Yeah. Let's talk about it. What was going through your mind? What you doing to make that?

Man, at the time, my career was in this crazy spot. I'm like, okay, I got to draw the line somewhere and just kind of let people know. You know what I'm saying? Just watch yourself when it comes to when you're speaking on me, talking about me or talking for me. I heard that. And then I wanted to, like, show that my beat making skills were up to par, too. So, you know, I wanted to be 100 on this whole thing, written, produced by me. So I'm just in the studio one day banging out,

and that was just the attitude I was on. Like, bro, man, I am not playing Just watch yourself When it comes to all of that Just so it don't tiptoe into some places it could be So that was the message Let's talk about those girls When you produced it for Snoop

Oh man, that shit was fun That was Teddy Riley Myself and My bass player His name is Coombs fun. That was Teddy Riley, myself, and my bass player. His name is Coombs. Eric Coombs. We did that together for Ego Trippin'.

Wow. Teddy was just in there teddying, man. He's such a legend, man. You don't understand. This motherfucker is bad as fuck. This nigga being there with all the new technology. He had them Nicos the little niko keyboard where the computer was on it and the the the synthesized like the qwerty keyboard thing built around him in the session like he had like during the ego trip and shit it was like he had he stepped he would step into

yeah he stepped into the little podium it was like pod. He made a look. He became the machine. Yeah, he was definitely Iron Man before it was popular. So he wanted, we had to change the music because the original was a sample of Nobody Gets Too Much Heaven

by the Bee Gees. Ooh, you and me, girl. Got a lot of love in store. But we couldn't clear it. They was like, no. But they had let him use Love You Inside Out. That's crazy, because they cleared so much shit. They let him clear that one, but they...

In my life. They wasn't having it. That's their baby, their dollar baby. So Snoop was like, hey, cuz, they done cleared the motherfucking sample. Quick, quick, why don't y'all do that shit over So we just did it over We just did You know

Those girls We had Those girls We just Cut it all up That was That's That's Kid Frost's Producer frost sign producer oh um that was so scooped the bill

was fire hey you know that scoop you know that scoop on women weed and weather i didn't know that oh yeah he's going crazy we mean he's he's he did i want to rock he did it. I got a record with school. Yeah, he's he's dope man fire That's my nephew, bro. What he let we mix what I mix for him. I mixed life at a party. Oh Mr. Fab and too short We met we actually bought it on ego trip and that was our yeah Hanging thing that's what this dude, I'm like, so where are you from? Which you was helped writing on the album?

I don't want to say write because that's like, nah. He was living that project. Yeah. And Snoop was just, well, I wouldn't say

we would collaborate. He would tell me what the words and how he wanted it to be and all that. And I was like a young, new guy and it was just like,

I hear it like this. Nigga, he paying cold blood. You know what I'm saying? So, this nigga was writing this. Bro, you are a dope-ass writer, just like I hear it like this nigga 8-pin cold blooded you know what I'm saying so this nigga was writing bro you are a dope ass writer bro I appreciate it

I love seeing you do that shit my nigga you made me sharpen my shit I was in there sharpening my shit oh man I'm getting a lot of flowers take them you deserve them bro

take them take them what's cold blooded is I play dirty because I don't always I waste time getting dressed

to go to a studio so if I just turn to go to a studio. So if I just turn my house into a studio, I can come straight out of the shower and get some Jordan shorts and tear your ass up. I used to do beats in my boxers. I do beats in my boxers, goddamn it. I do beats in my boxers. I do beats in my boxers.

I do beats in my boxers. Bullshit. You done got a call from somebody. You like, you done fucked your whole mood up. It's like, bro, like, let's just. But I was going there and listen to what he left last night and just jump on it. Without all the editing and, you know, let me get composed, you know, 80 tracks or takes to one. No, I'm trying to hang toe to toe with these guys because these niggas are there.

I'm then. This is now. Right. Fire. Wow. We can't. And it's fucked up because we were we told Young MC we would call him to ask you the question. Fuck Young MC because he beat me on motherfucking.

He beat you up. No. No. I wasn't ready. Look, he beat me on motherfucking, what was Ann's show called? The Weakest Link. Oh, he said it. We did a hip hop version of The Weakest Link.

Did he say that? And I lost because I mispronounced Kodo Salami. I thought it was Kodo. The bitch said it was Kado. And he kicked me off, and I b-walked on her ass. I bagged on her. She said, quick, why is your jury smaller than everyone else's? I said, bitch.

I said it's not small, it's quaint. He beat you up. No, he won. He beat the game. Him and the exhibit, they hung me. He said he was one of the illest MCs. Who? They held. He said he was one of the illest MCs. Who? Young MC.

He said you one of the illest MCs. That's how he feel about me? Yeah. When did he say that? I got to call him. He said, we just had him last week. I love that nigga, bro. We'll try to call him, but before we, he had a question that he told us that he wanted

to ask you and I was supposed to call him, but I'm going to just ask him. Get him on the phone. Hold up, guys. Relax, buddy. We'll call him and we'll try it again, but I'm going to ask you and I was supposed to call him but I'm gonna just ask him on the phone hold up guys relax buddy we'll call him and we'll try it we'll try it again but I'm gonna ask it anyway he said that he heard a rumor that you locked yourself in the crib right for like a year with equipment producing a record yeah something like that yeah is this true or not I don't know how he know he should have came and saw he should have came and saw it for himself because right now it's speculative.

But it's kind of not like that. It's not speculative if you tell us. Well, of course. You know, you got to buy it in the book. DJ Quick Story. Oh, God damn. He turned the book on us. Come on, man.

I'm going to see if I can get him on the phone. Oh, shit. Now it's a see if I can get him on the phone. Good. Oh, shit. Now it's a deposition. He's a motherfucker. But no, he actually said. No, yeah, I did, okay? Oh, shit. It was a year?

Yeah, it was about a year. You locked yourself as an exaggerator, though. I had this album I was doing before Rhythm Lizard. It was called Q4. It was like, I did one, two, three, and they all, they plop. I got... That broke. Whatever that was, it broke.

No, it didn't. It's just... No? It's just getting crazy. Anyway, it was called Q4, and it ended up being Rhythmalism. It was my fourth record with Aristos. And it went gold, too.

One year locked up in the crib. Yeah, why not? Prince did it. Fucking D'Angelo do it. What am I doing here? I ain't trying to fool y' gold, too. One year locked up in the crib. Yeah, why not? Prince did it. Fucking D'Angelo do it. What am I doing here? I ain't trying to fool y'all, bro. Lonely sandwiches? I sleep on purple rain sheets, nigga.

My mattress is called purple. Look it up. Oh, you sleep on purple rain sheets? Goddamn right. Out of control. Motherfucking right. They silk, right? Goddamn, they something.

I know when I get out the motherfuckers, we reach out for each other as I'm walking out the room. I got to be back. I don't think this guy. Just got to get back to my sheets.

Okay. Y'all know I fuck with Dave Chappelle and Chris Nam. Like, I really fuck with them niggas. Dave Chappelle and who? And Chris Rock. And Chris Rock? Yeah. Those are both of my niggas. Good man. And then my boys. Do you got a Dave Chappelle story? Of course. Dave Chappelle used to come to the studio when

I was working on my Trauma album. We used to go to Wyclef's studio on 46th and Broadway? 56th? 54th? They're going Broadway. Yeah. I don't know what you're talking about. Platinum. Platinum sound. Platinum sound. Fuck yeah, bro. Yeah, there you go. I'm in there hanging out with this nigga.

This nigga in there trying not to be funny but being so funny that if you listen to him you'll throw up because he'll catch you eating lasagna and you'll spit it on yourself

because he's too funny. Right, right, right. You think for one minute he's not being David Chappelle and then he'll just say some shit and you'll be like. Right, yeah, yeah. Hold on, man. Look. I got to shit, and you'll be like. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hold on, man. I got to take five. He's that guy. Right. They're like zeniths when it comes to comedy. So Chris is one of the, ask Ali Leroy how he feels about Chris, and he'll always tell you. Chris is like easily one of the most stellar comics in the world ever. What did you feel when you seen the Will Smith? I didn't

feel because I wasn't there. I didn't get the slap. But empathetically, yeah, that was wrong. But Chris didn't expect that either. Yeah. He called it misplaced anger, misplaced rage. Yeah. It was weird. Because then I'm thinking,

damn, I do that, I'm going to jail Right Or he stayed He stayed the whole night Let him see me do that Yeah yeah He stayed

I'm gonna be calling Somebody for bail money He had drinks He cried He clapped Yeah he stayed You talking Will You saw that shit

And Chris did too He got his award after that Yeah And Chris did too He said the whole shit Right That's crazy It's not that deep though But fuck it It's not that deep Don't for both Yeah That's crazy It's not that deep though

But fuck it It's not that deep Don't for both of them actually Exactly It's not that deep No No I think it

Why not In a weird way It worked out It worked out for both of them You don't think so It worked out for them In a weird way Go ahead

I worked out with Will At the fucking last Grammys At the West Coast Grammys Like the Now to the West Coast Grammys That we did And this was after All the shit broke And Will was like the nod to the West Coast Grammys that we did and this was after all the shit broke

and Will is like he's unbothered I mean Will is a fucking hero let's just be real that's right that's still the Fresh Prince nigga too like

Girls of the World Ain't Nothin' But Trouble was one of the loudest 12 inches I ever had that shit was dope so remember take my advice

and keep the hell away dun dun dun dun dun dun dun shit that record was hard yeah what's your say your feelings on it advice to keep the hell away. Shit, that record was hard. What's your feeling on it? Say your feelings on it.

I'll take a shot at that. Hold on, hold on. He got feelings. He got feelings on it. I think, you know what? I might sit this one out because I... I mean, we can cut it out if we don't want it afterwards,

but... Not just... Like slapping... No, it shouldn't have been... Slapping a black man is crazy to me. It's the most disgusting thing. I don't give a fuck about none of that shit. And then doing that in front of people is crazy.

100%. And no, bro, I'll say this. You know what I'm saying? And we can watch through the edit and figure out if we're going to keep it or not, but nigga, slap me. Hey, you're going to knock

a motherfucker the fuck out. It ain't even that, it's just you not staying in the building. We're not doing that. You're going to beat me up a gallon of times. Because it's just not cool.

And like, at a certain age, like bro, we look up to people. Like we look up to him, we look up to Chris and I just wish that didn't do that.

You know what I'm saying? Your issue is a valid one. wish that didn't do that. You know what I'm saying? Your issue is a valid one. Like, you got a wife, you know what I'm saying? We got what we got and shit in here. Talk about that. But it wasn't the time and place. It's just like, if I'm disrespecting you and we're all in front of millions of people, just put me to the side, bro.

It's really easy. Right. Put me to the side. Like, bro, I don't like that. What is this? We can figure out if we're going to catch that later or we're gonna catch it here but not not in front of them folks just not in front of the folks yeah yeah like i got kids bro well like i can't lose a fight right now i come home and my daughter see me with a black eye and me trying to explain that no you're a superhero to your kids no you can't

come home with a black eye like how how does does nigga Chris can win an argument right now with his little young? Anytime he get out of potty. You do that to him. You know how they do. Nigga, don't put me in that. Don't put me in that over this shit. Don't do that. Not with me.

Chris let me score a film. Yes, he let me score. If we cool, we cool. That's when he was the atonement and then he went and became the president, right? He played wah, wah, wah, wah. Yeah, they played Homeboy, I Came to Party. They played that one. Come on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was you. Goddamn it, good looking. Come on, man. Goddamn it, I ain't know that this whole time. Goddamn it, you been looking out for me the whole time. Nah, I'm a fan of everybody, bro. The DJ Quick Effect is awesome, bro. Yeah. Look at that for me. Yeah. Nah. Nah. I'm a fan of everybody, bro. The DJ Quick effect is awesome, bro.

That's right. That's right. That's right. We all under the DJ Quick. Come on. Motherfucking family tree. God damn it. I do the work so you don't have to.

Like a tiny bow man. That's right. Shit, you got a shot? Because I'm taking a shot for that. That deserves a shot. Cheers. Salud. I'm going back to Japanese whiskey.

I'm sorry. You're going to jump on it? The Japanese, y'all. Back to Mami Juana. We got to get Chris Stapleton to do a song called Japanese Whiskey. Let me ask you. Let me taste your Japanese whiskey.

You want to try? You taste testing. I see you, bro. I like that. I had the Mami Juana, but I haven't had the Japanese whiskey yet. Let me ask you a problem. You said something that's very interesting to me earlier. You said you don't gangbang.

But by way of your neighborhood, aren't you always affiliated to whatever gang is in your neighborhood? Yes. So what gang is in your neighborhood? The Westside Piros, the Faux Line, the Deuce Line, the Nellis, everything around that surrounding situation is where I grew up at. So now let me ask you another. This is this is what do you call like a square question? I don't know. Like when I look at Kendrick Lamar video. Right. It's clearly two different types of dances. I can't tell the difference. Really? Is it? I'm guessing because a certain times I feel like it's like a B walk and then I feel like it's a C walk.

I can't tell the difference unless they got on those colors. Can you tell the difference from a person? Of course, I mean, I mean, he definitely could. I mean, listen, man, just, you know, I'll say this. Everything ain't for everybody. Right. Right. And maybe, maybe that ain't for y'all to know who's doing

that type of shit. You know what I'm saying? We should be clueless. I'm glad that I'm clueless. I'm asking. Right. You got things that show culture

that I'm like, ooh, that's fire, but if I knew too much about it, I don't know. Right. Right.

And I think that's just kind of ours. You get what I'm saying? It's a secret, it's a secret message in there. It's kind of ours. You know what I'm saying? It's a secret message in there. It's a secret language. But is that message California or is that message gang, gang-a-fornia? I mean, it's beyond California, too.

Wait, those are now... California or gang-a-fornia? There's no more gang. Gang-a-fornia. Gang-a-fornia. I'm not mad at gang-a-fornia. I like that yeah man just

I clearly saw the message sorry about the trademark message Gangafonia is crazy I clearly saw the message and I'm wondering no it's not a message bro don't read too much into it

okay cool it's like because they're not gangs anymore they're not clubs like it's the treetop club it's like

because we wanted to be a more club than anything else we would rather for that to be a more club than anything else. We would rather for that to be a gang because a gang is, they're unpredictable. And who wants, the key is to make it home safe. I hope that's why we're all in this. So I'd rather have a club. You know, turn up and have some free liquor.

If you ain't got to pay for the shit, just pay for it. I want to shout out to all the Pyros in Compton. They just did a peace treaty. Yeah. Against each other? Yes. They were beefing amongst each other? Yeah.

So shout out to all the Pyros in Compton that are on that peace treaty right now. I think it's like two, three weeks in. Nothing's really happened between them. Hopefully the Crips get in line. And any way for both sides to get in line? Like after the Rodney Keith line? Honestly, that's above my pay grade. I'm going to keep it a bang with you because I don't

gang bang. I mean, you think it could happen. No, I'm just celebrating what I see, if that makes any sense. I've never seen it. So instead of always digging into the negative side of it, I'm like, I can't ask y'all to clean it up. Then when y'all clean it up, I stop talking about it.

That's what fucks it up. So it's like, if I can make it loud, like, yo, the Piru's, that's some shit I've never seen since I've been alive. I've never seen this. It's a long time. And they're three weeks into something that can be very beneficial to my city.

I just want to talk about it and yell it out. That's dope, but I believe that's the, I believe that's the confusion when it spread throughout the world. Like, it's, we just thought, all right, cool,

it's Bloods and Crips, right? Then we understood that it was Bloods against Crips, right? And then we started to hear that it was actually Crips on Crips. And Bloods on Bloods. And then Bloods onps on Crips. And Bloods on Bloods. And then Bloods on Bloods.

And some of the Bloods on Bloods beef go just as long as a Crip and a Blood beef will go. Some of the Crip on Crip beef lasted just as long as a Blood on Crip beef. I thought that that was, like, so interesting. And, again, that's why I kept telling to y'all earlier it was almost like you have to be from there to understand it like it almost sound like you know what I mean like and like he says it's some things that we're not meant to understand yeah yeah I think it's been a black on black beef you better say that and that's what's fucked up and stupid about it nobody ever understood why it's been that once anybody wants to gangbang when we i became a dj so we could have

fun right not to have fights i play music music stop fights the right song to stop a fucking bar after after the rodney king rise and the peace treaty how how legit was the peace treaty it was it was awesome for a few weeks that was awesome that's as long as because it was a honeymoon right yeah yeah we actually get to go over here? Whoa, I went everywhere. I was all in. I remember Cam with the record peace treaty, and I remember we're all looking at the West Coast like,

they did a peace treaty. It's legit. Wait, hold on. I just love what you said. You said you went everywhere? Yeah. Meaning you went to every enemy. Yeah, damn right.

I was in everybody. He was there. He went to see the female. damn right I was in everybody He was He went to see the female I had an Acura NSX I was driving that bitch Everywhere That's fire I saw Michael Keaton

That bitch Leaving our motherfucking agency I mean he just got His money for Batman Wow Warner Brothers Wow We pulled up in a

Motherfucking Scooby Doo van Saw this dude Leaving in a Rolex And a fucking Acura NSX I said I'm going to do that Next year And the next year I had Rolex and a fucking Acura NSX. I said, I'm going to do that next year. And the next year

I had a Rolex and an Acura NSX. Good job. Good job. Come on, man. Listen now. Yeah, that shit is crazy.

It's beautiful to watch the city right now. Everybody just at least taking a stab at peace. You know what I'm saying? I can feel it, bro.

We don't know how it's going to go. And a lot of people, I hear a lot of people, it's going to be fucked up in this long. Right now, it ain't. It's not. Let's just kind of pause and enjoy the fact that it's kind of cool. And everybody's outside. I'm an outsider.

That's the inside of looking out. And I was out there for five days, and I felt so, I felt that. At peace. Like, I got to feel it. I didn't know that that was going on it felt very good like I was out there and I was like damn it I felt like everybody like complied everybody was on that type of order like yo you're talking for the show yeah I came a day before the video no no day before the awards and then I stayed like an, an extra couple of days, and, you know,

I was just, I was just feeling it. The energy. I was feeling the energy. It was just, like, it was just different out there, and I was just, like, I couldn't understand,

well, now that you say that, maybe that makes sense. That's probably one of the energies that I was feeling, but, yeah, it just felt good. It just felt right out there, bro. Yeah.

Like, yeah, bro. Like, I'm happy for y'all, bro. We've been in talks about just making sure that, like, again, like, nobody's above the program. Like, nobody with a microphone outside of a few people can really dictate the way it is. But with Dot, for what he did, he took a moment that would be deemed negative and then turned into a positive for everybody from California. It made everybody step their pen up. This motherfucker sampled my latest, my greatest inspiration as a part of his diss record.

I'm over it. That is so sad. Hip-hop in general. You motherfucker. I think it's bigger than music though. It's like nah, this ain't really about.

Music is the reason, but yes, it's bigger than music. No, he took music and instead of, like, making it about him, he made it about, like, us. All right, when do we drink? And that's tough. Okay, yeah, we drink. Hold on, hold on. Y'all not finna stop me on this part. Okay, okay, okay.

Fuck all that. Because there's some realer shit going on, like, right now. You get what I'm saying hell yeah and from what he did bro i really like people are talking about like a rap and all of that bro i've never been able to walk around los angeles the way i've been able to walk around and say that and that's brand new for me i'm not a young guy right right and for it recently since yes it's light everybody's showing love like yeah like you gotta like Jay Worthy, he's from the same neighborhood as bro. It's light for the first time.

You get what I'm saying? And y'all done been to LA when it wasn't light. Yeah. So to take a moment where it's like, all right, bro, me and him, y'all having a rap competition, but everybody about to look at me. Right. Everybody else would make that moment about them Say that

Everybody else I've watched Have made that moment about them Right From everywhere This ain't This ain't a West East None of that He made that moment about us

And that's what the fuck We need to be talking about I'm tired of all this selfish shit Say that bro Because when the nigga That's R. Michael Jackson Decides to look, I'm going to take a gamble on 31 knuckleheads that never got along. And we all got along. We all was fresh as fuck. He's talking to shit.

We all was fly. We look like how the West Coast supposed to look. We're not about to cloud that with no beef with that. And no who did. We're not doing none of that i'm not going for it bro did he took a real risk on a lot of us trust me that picture has only been done one time when y'all did it yo listen no no no let me ask you that's fire you know what was crazy i forget where i I was at. I was out of town somewhere. But I see the picture. And I don't identify what I'm seeing.

All I'm seeing is, that shit look good. Like, that shit look ill. And then, I believe it was on a group chat. And then somebody said, those are all rappers from different neighborhoods. And I didn't look. And then I had to look. They're not even rappers. Yeah, it's a lot. Then I had to look.

And I was like, oh. You watching elegance. It's NBA Olympians, All Stars, Clowns, Kids, Cribs, Bloods, Women, Dancers. Like what really Los Angeles really is. Right. Like the gangbanger shit kind of make it like water it down.

Say that. They make it where it's this one dimensional thing where it's like. It's just that. It's just that. That's happening in like one spot. Right. When there's so many things happening. It's beautiful, bro.

That was black business in there, bro. Real black business. I will not allow anybody to turn this into about like who rap better, who sound better. That's cool. We've done that. It's like who rap better who sound better that's cool we've done that right it's like who feel better now it's cracking on the side when we got me and him up here together you know i'm saying this is a lot of west coast lineage we got them niggas going out to canada getting a lot of money together you got us getting a lot of money together you got the younger guys

they got a shot to be seen in front of the world. 200 million motherfuckers. Watch that. We're not minimizing that to no fucking rap beef with bro. Get out of here, bro. You know what I'm saying? Some real cop this shit though. Can I interject here, gentlemen?

You got two things to say here. Tell you what. Stand down, stand back. Tell you what. General speech. I love it. Stand down, stand back. Tell you what. Thing number one, I'm going to Photoshop myself into that truck. He called me his. He likes

him. You're going to do that while we're done? It's a historic picture. Oh my God. We wanted him there so bad. That is hip hop history. I mean, the name is perfect, but imagine that would have made it perfect. Perfect. Oh, man.

They would leave man man from what I hear. We got to get shot to that before. Come on, man. She says it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian, Dr. Randall Williams, and bestselling author and meat eater founder, Stephen Rinella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the ice age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the

West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to the American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay. So you two things you had to say quick. Thing number two. Okay. Tell you what, now don't, don't rest my floor. Oh, you said you photoshopped it yourself. That's story number one.

No, we've already had that established. Okay. That's the story. Sound like General Pat right now. Tell you what, tell you what, I'll do it with you later. Thing number two, don't let this goddamn whippersnapper over here deceive y'all. He's been on jet skis for the last two days. This motherfucker's having the time of his life out here in Miami. This motherfucker's been on the ocean the whole time.

I swear he's amphibian. Seen more water than me. That's all I wanted to say. Those were my two things. This guy right here, man, grabbed me and put me here, man, when nobody else did. That's amazing, man. So yeah, this is just a beautiful thing to be sitting here with him. You know what it is? It's the two eras that makes it so dope that y'all can come together and make a new era. You know what I'm saying? That's what makes it so dope. And this is legacy because this is legacy right here.

Shout out Eddie Murphy Random. Shout out Eddie Murphy for that new Beverly Hills Cop movie. Yo, that shit is dope. That's funny. That's so funny. I've been trying to sit down and watch something. Have them. You That's funny. That's funny. That's funny. I've been trying to sit down and watch some. Have them.

You got to see them steal a helicopter. The funniest shit ever right now. Nothing can beat that. Shout out to Eddie then. Shout out to AP on Crooked. That's my dog. He a real hip hop guy. Real hip hop guy.

You know what I like about it too? That's how the dance started. And DJ like how it started. And then they went to Beverly Hills again. Like that shit is crazy. And Eddie. Big up to Eddie Murphy for still being funny. And I'm not saying that he's not funny. I'm saying that he's not funny. I'm saying that he's not funny. I'm saying that he's not funny. You know what I like about it too? That was a dance of the year. And DJ, like how it started, and then they went to Beverly Hills again.

Like, that shit is crazy. And Eddie, big up to Eddie Murphy for still being funny. Like, I didn't think he was funny. Come to drink, Eddie Murphy. Come to drink, Eddie Murphy. That'd be fire. That'd be fire, Eddie.

You don't gotta drink, Eddie Murphy. Just come to drink, Chaz. When he's promoting, Netflix just gave him every billboard on Sunset. Right. And on Highland, in front of the bowl, all you see is Eddie Murphy all through Hollywood right now.

That movie is fucking hell. He kind of threw here the cultural shift, though, for sure. And that beat you was just doing, that was the... That was my shit. I had that on the boom box. On repeat. On repeat on my boom box.

They used the same beat again. That's Eddie Murphy's theme music from the original. It was called Axl's Theme or Foley's Theme or something. It's his theme song. His partner's back. The guys that he put the tail in the banana. They brought him back. They brought those two guys back.

Judge Reinhold. Yeah, they lied. Judge Reinhold and the older guy, too. The bigger dude, right? Yeah. He was taggered. He plays tagger.

The honest, honest guys from all over the world. Yeah. Eddie killed that shit. He did. It's funny? Yeah.

It's funny? It's funny as shit. I was worried because I don't want to ruin my talent. First of all, Eddie Murphy never made a good sequel because there was too much money involved.

Paramount didn't want to pay for it. Now Netflix has made him a partner so he can do these things while he's still young enough and still have co-stars. And his was crazy. He looked young still. I watched them both back to back. I watched the old one and then the new one. And they both say Eddie Murphy production. Like I watched the new one first and then I watched the old one and the new one. And they both say Eddie Murphy of production.

Like I watched the new one first and then I watched the old one. Exactly. That's dope. There's one old one. Nobody else two or three, right? But they did that because they had three. That was Corporation just wanting to cash in on it. Disneyland was four, right? Yeah.

They had four of them? I watched the new one and the original one. And I was like, this shit is dope. The first one, I mean, is the illest. Yeah, this shit is dope. So I forgot about the second one. Yeah, I like that. I like that.

Now, all of our OGs, one of our biggest conversations is them owning their masters. Some of them are getting, what is it called, reversed? The 30-year thing. Yeah, it's a reversion. Reversion, there we go. Do you already own all your masters? I was smart enough to duplicate the master tapes and send those to Profile Records and keep the masters in my fucking possession. I got all my masters.

Hey, Lil Dave. What does that mean? One of my masters. What does that mean? He does. Hey, I'm'm like i got a prince of all i can go y'all go in that motherfucker y'all gonna be putting down like reading the name bro he really got everything i got my master tape he could pull up the dress like right now but hold up for layman's what does that mean you duplicated wouldn't the masters mean that whoever owns

well the recording in general stipulation that ifile Records didn't get the tapes of our recordings, the reels, if they didn't get the reels, if they didn't get the reels, we wouldn't get the second installment of our payment. Right. The big money, the end of it. So you had to send them the tapes. But they ain't got nobody at Profile talking about let's check these tapes to see if what's on there

this nigga's got motherfucking some red skeleton comedy albums I got quick I got I just told him he got everything bro he literally got everything you sent him black tapes? Black tapes? Fucking hip-hop.

I got my tapes. I said, there's some other tapes. I just told you he could pull up the drums tonight. Pretty Clearwater Revival, bro. Yeah. They ain't got that fucking summer breeze. No, they got it. I made duplicates.

I made duplicates. I don't believe you with your duplicates right now, man. You mean you sent him something else. I'm a duplicator, bro. Yeah, he sent duplicates. Okay. Hold on, hold on. You sent duplicates.

You sent duplicates. Right. But yeah, he got everything. Right. He got everything. That's all that counts. That's all that counts. He got everything.

The operative word meaning dupe. Okay, say no more. Say no more. Say no more. If you know, you know. If you don't, you don't. I'm Jamie Star, nigga. So if Axel Foley wanted to call you right now to score a movie using your old shit,

you don't have to speak to the label. Axel Foley's going to call? I was just playing. You know what I mean. I was making a point. If I want to make him feel important, I'll was making a point um if I wanna make him feel important I'll call him and ask him

if I can use it okay wow just so you know cause the niggas that own this shit still alive they

I'd be alive for that much money too in theory I get these motherfuckers like I sold three and a half million records on an independent label

that's tough to do hell yeah it's tough to do shit but I did it with Run DMC money so it ain't really that bad that was a raising hell raised me basically literally what label was this profile okay that's why i was independent at that time yeah okay but these motherfuckers were like a

major yeah that was your first that was your first deal right yeah i got 125 grand to sign and got that time seven with bumps. And I was getting all my bumps. Like Michael Jackson was getting his bumps for Thriller. Like at 16.17.18%, whatever. It was like, hey, man, I went gold. You get a bonus for that. Give me the bonus.

I'm looking for that bonus because I got bikes and shit. Motorcycles. I would need some CR80s. Right. And 125s. Give me this money so I can go buy these things. Right. You know? But, yeah, I was smart enough to keep all my

tapes. I'm going to shut it up because probably I was like, man, you be running along, man. You be talking all that shit. Shut it down now. Now I got my shit. I'm about to get the control of it to be able to do whatever I want. When I perform,

I perform them songs just like I did when I first made under that control already when I perform when I perform I perform them songs just like they I did when I first made them so those are my assets that's my grandchildren's money

that's your legacy right I own I own the Jason Martin ones Diamond Lane which is my partner

he owns all the ones prior to me my name changed right is that the reason for the name change no not at all because not in the least bit because owns all the ones prior to my name change. Right. Is that the reason for the name change? No. Not at all. Not in the least bit.

Because everything is all laid out the right way. You get what I'm saying? Right. So when Problem makes money, Jason Martin makes money. And we had to do it that way. Right.

That's dope. So, yeah. Yeah, we own them. It's kind of dope because when you can, like, do the licensing yourself, and like you said, you brought up Better Watch Yourself. Like, a lot of my records that kind of went, I was a producer on them. So some of them are 100. Some of them are, like, 45. When you say, like, percentage-wise publishing,

some of them are, like, just higher than the rapper side of it, but I just never was loud about it. When we're doing these licenses, instead of seven to eight signatures, it's two. Right. And it's made it where the Better Watch Yourself, it may not have went like platinum, but we're able to do in Japan when the, what's the guys, the dancer guys? Jabbawockeez?

Jabbawockeez. They take it, they do a dance to it, and then it goes, they do it at the Golden State Warriors game and the championship, and then it's, we can make money off of it, like, all over the place. Right. Instead of just, like, record sales. Do you remember when our song got used for So You Think You Can Dance? Well, that's Rosecrans. That's when he got he got to see like it was crazy when we did the project together

with rosecrans so shout out diamond lane empire um we were licensing a lot he was able to license the the songs through the movie he did what was the name of the movie which one the movie uh with the black guy with the hammer john henry john henry He was able to use a lot of those songs in there and it was an easier signature to get. TV stuff, we were able to just get it done a lot quicker because we owned it. As opposed to like how it usually takes. Right.

You know? Man, this dude is so fair that he's like a publishing magnet. Like he'd be showing like side artists how to, you know, get paid, how to be a part of a thing and don't just be like, be about to rah-rah. Really calm down and earn

while you're not even visible. You know what I'm saying? It ain't ghost producing or none of that shit. It's just a smart way of just, I'm going to pay you in publishing. I'm not going to pay you in no cash or no weird shit like that. No advance.

Let's just make money on the back end because we've been independent. This dude, he's such an advocate for that. He's a beast. But I'm going to make sure everybody got what they got. We're calling it solution now. Solution. It's not a problem.

You're a solution. Straight up. But it's like, no, I just want to make sure. Even with Jay Worthy, we figured out a way to get him the look because he just did so much. Yeah, he did. It's like, bro, we got to pay this shit for it in this business because they want us to say ghost and ghost and ghost. Like, why? They don't do that in no other business.

You know why? Because once you become a ghost, they own all your shit. Right. Fuck that. This business built up with jerky people. Man, let's just. Y'all hear me. I'm an advocate on just like, I'm going to pay you how fast I want to be paid.

Fuck yeah. I want my shit. you how fast I want to be paid. Fuck yeah. I want my shit to, the minute it's all to me. So if I owe somebody something, or if you got a question, like all of this, this other way of doing business, this whimsical way of doing business

and rap music is so fucking weird to me. I can't understand why these conversations are so deep. We're not selling crack. We're not doing anything. We did these songs in our own studios.

I said it. Our own shit. It's like, why? If it don't make dollars, it don't make sense. Why? I said that. Black people are afraid

of confrontational conversations. They think we have to agree and they think we're beefing. This shit is just not right. You can disagree without being violently disagreeable. Nah, let's just talk till we agree.

That's it. It's not deep. The fact that we're talking is an agreeance. This is something that we should've had a quick time with Slav with both of y'all. Major or independent?

Both. Oh, shit. We drink to that. We gotta drink. I'm never gonna shit on Jimmy Iovine. That's my Oracle. Are you kidding me? Dang, he said Oracle.

Fuck yeah, dude. He just had a meeting. Jay Worthy just had a fucking meeting with all three of them. Did you not go to Iovine? Come on, Jay. Did youy just had a fucking meeting with all three of them. Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG?

Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG?

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Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG?

Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG?

Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? Did you not go to the IG? No, no, no, we got one opener right there. She got us, she got us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That guy. He on it. She get paid for the job. I'm ready.

He on it. Hold up, hold up, hold up. I love it, yeah. Hold up. Here, Jamie, yeah. All right, there we go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to go Indy.

I'm going to go Indy. Empire been good to us. No. But Jimmy Higin is the man. You already understand. I don't know the other side. I never had him. Think of the Ghazi.

Oh, we just did this with Empire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, wait. My apologies. I'm sorry. I'm't know the other side. Big of the Ghazi. Oh, we just did this with Empire. Wait, wait. My apologies. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I forgot. Empire is a major.

Empire is a major now. So I started with Empire when they were in Indy. Wait, Empire is a major? Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, they are. I didn't. My negligence was wrong.

I started with them. Like, all my earlier stuff was through Diamond Lane and Empire. Wow. In 2011, 2012. So now they're definitely, they got number one record right now with Shabuzy I want to say.

So that's a major label. Shout out to Gazi. Shabuzy, that's the country. No, he got it. I got it. That's the country singer? Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. So yeah, we on a major now. Yeah. Thank you, sweetheart. So you picking major? No, he said both. I'm waiting to see on a major now. Yeah. Thank you, sweetheart. So, you picking major? No, he said both. I'm waiting to see what my answer going to be right now. I'm waiting to see what my answer going to be.

It's been amazing thus far, for sure. It's been great. They calling in. They wanting to sing. You know what I'm saying? We're going to have a good time. We're going to see what happens. Okay.

I'll see. Why do you look like a baseball player like Sheryl Ohtani right now? You're gambling just went to jail, nigga. You can steal their money out your account. Go, Sheryl. Tell her. Do it in Japanese. I don't know.

Show them niggas how to do it. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, that's what me and EFM, I like the major push with the independent ownership. Say that. But I love major. I can't lie to you. I like the good hotels.

Yeah, yeah. They gave him a good hotel, bro. The independent, you be in the ringy dinks, boy. You be like in the room. Penny pinching. That's mine. I got to make sure that's all right. I got to make better decisions.

Yes, yes, yes. What am I doing in Motel 6? Yes, yes, yes. Yes am I doing in motion? Yes, yes, yes. Yes, exactly. I mean, yeah, I don't. Y'all had real major, though. Like, I want to call, like, ego tripping was probably the last major label thing I saw. Oh, my God.

Six months, five studios. That nigga Snoop was running a plan. Whenever you need to eat in that few, pull up, go there, get your food. He had it, he had it ready. It was laid out for you for the whole day.

Everybody was paid properly but that nigga Dawg was a real old man. You're still on that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's major. It's major. My whole career's

been independent though so this is my first time like, it's weird because I began with Empire when they were a super indie yeah and now they're a major they had no respect and then this time i'm like more involved business-wise i wasn't the first time i was just full artist mode but i will say it's been dope man shout out to chase

infinite for making sure that went right bro like bro bro chase tina david tina davis bro, Chase, Tina Davis, Tina Davis, you know what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, like Gentry, Jada, Bria, everybody over there, everybody over there has been, Nima, everybody's been a treat, it's been a treat, Ghazi, just talk to him, I can't wait to see what we keep doing together, Ghazi's a dude, yes, big up to Ghazi, big up to the whole empire. Shout out to Sony Orchard and Next. You know what I'm saying? My boy John too, man. Shout out to Big John.

Monumental while we're here. You got to take a drink. He said both. He said both. I took my shot when he said both. That's how you know this show is called. Who's going to win this little competition of drinks? Who's the drink champ? Because I from Drink Channel. Who going to win this little competition of drinks? Who's the drink champ?

Because I'm definitely not. Yeah. No, no, no. It's okay. Who the fuck is the drink champ? It got to be you because you came to us with motherfucking Caribbean drinks, too. I'm not fucking with that. That shit look like coffee.

That's aphrodisiac, bro. That's dick fixer. That's for real shit. You can do voodoo with it. You can do whatever the fuck you want with it. Yeah, I love voodoo. I got light skin. I don't do nothing but light skin and shit.

We do light skin and shit. I'm playing. I just hope I'm funny. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Just like Compton, right? Yes, sir. That came out before or after? It came out in 1992.

And then when did Summer Vacation come out? This was on my summer vacation when he said, now you got his ass in Minnesota. That record when did Summer Vacation come out? This was on my summer vacation when he said, now he got his ass in Minnesota. That record, Ice Cube. Yeah. How close did those records come out? 91, I want to say.

91. Well, we were, it was a blur because we were always spending a lot of time in St. Louis, Missouri. The reason why I say this is because I feel like that's the blueprint

to show the outside world from the West Coast. Right. How gang culture spread spread yeah like i think summer vacation is like the illest like explanation it should be a movie ice cube is should explain ice cube is a poet laureate and then and then just like compton i remember with that record what i was gonna bring it i had i have the i have the i can still perform it i just performed that shit i about that record? What? I was going to bring it. I have the cassette. I'm still performing. I just performed that shit in Oakland. But I feel like that record, those two records explain a lot about gang culture to people

who don't know anything about the West Coast. Chris Rock loves that record. Chris Rock said that that's one of his favorite records. It made sense when I did it. So, yeah. How big was that record for you? It went gold in one week, my album. Wow.

Physical. Hey, that physical. Physical is crazy. That's physical. That's a totally different thing. That's fire. Because one dude could download your shit seven times. Physical, you got to go to the store seven times.

Physical is crazy. Or ask for seven copies. Or you can listen to our songs 1,500 times before we make 10 bucks. That's crazy to me. Physical's crazy. Or ask for seven copies. Or you can listen to our songs 1500 times before we make 10 bucks. That's crazy to me. Right, right, before you make 10 bucks, damn. You're talking about streaming. And you won't even get those 10 bucks. Damn.

Until you reach another threshold. I can't wear a shirt twice and then pay for it and then bring it back. Damn. You can wear it once and get it paid for. It's crazy. Damn. It's crazy right now

They gonna fix that though That's why we came With the Walkman vinyl But you know what YouTube's doing it They already fixed it We got We got people in Congress

That are up for us bro That Rick is an optimist right now I see this in him right now He's an optimist He's the technology He's guiding us To the future bro

Right now Bro I'm I'm silly walking right now I know this shit. You believe in those tech guys that have the best interest for the musicians? I don't know, man. Well, the thing is, somebody has to vouch for that music.

And AI can't run in there and sign a fucking contract. It's still about being alive and having your shit in perpetuity. Until AI starts creating the music and the labels. What are we so afraid of this AI for? No, they can't. They can't. But this is the thing. And Corrupt, I was trying to talk to Corrupt about it.

We're going to get to a point where the next generation, they're going to program that generation to think this is good. Just like they're programming the generation with social media that this is proper. This is good. This is entertainment. Bro, the youth don't fuck with that. They don't. This is good. This is entertainment. Bro, the youth don't fuck with that, though.

They don't. They don't even think about that. Like, the youth feel more than a few of our generations have. They, like, feel. I hope so. No, I'm telling you, bro. I got daughters and shit,

like, from age from 8 to 24. No, I got a little concern, but I hope the debt continues. I listen to them. They can tell when shit don't feel right. Like, they sensitive to that. They're sensitive to it.

They don't understand what a gangbanger is. Like, why kill each other in color? That makes no sense. But the point of AI is to eventually trick you to not even know that it's anything robotic, anything technology. I think that's the trick to Spender. Us, that's older. I don't think that you're not going to trick these young. They are different.

I hope so. I'm hoping. Yeah. Hey, man. You got kids? Yeah I got a little What's your youngest? Four and six

You got an older one? No no four and six Okay Alright There's probably a difference Like my oldest She graduated from college I got a

I got a 21 year old That go to Grambling right now too So it's different Like I talk to them They don't see it Like we see it Like they spot that bullshit quick They not drinking as much

alcohol but it's not them bro what i'm telling you is another future okay it's beyond their future already it's another future going on i'm saying it's a younger generation so i'm talking to like the eight-year-olds when when we start to see this this next thing that's ai that it's like we didn't even imagine it this future that's gonna start to's like we didn't even imagine it, this future that's going to start to happen. You don't even know that this video is not a real person, but it's AI generated. Meaning like they believe in the hype. This music. They keep tweaking AI.

It's going to be. Like they're using us to model to get it right. You said that. I don't agree with something you said. How can they do this shit that we can't imagine? We imagined AI. We did. I'm David from AI.

Right. The movie? That was my shit, too. What was the little star's name on the movie Artificial Intelligence? It was David. His name was David. We made AI. I've been programming Apple computers since 1978.

I was an Apple S Now it's Command Z I was Apple Z Yeah Apple shit Steve Krzyzewski Steve Jobs It's different

It's different I've been doing that Since an 8 year old I was DJing Before I could talk And walk Bro I was like Walking to the turntable

Cause I wanted to play Those people that were in it. He thought people were in the record. I thought they were in the record. His family has told me this. This is not something he just sit there and speak with. I was scratching, bro, before I was talking. He thought those people were in there, so he wanted to hear their voice talk. But that's dope.

He's two or three years old. He was DJing at parties in college. He's like, let me play the ghost. Yeah, the ghost. Exactly. He thought Michael Jackson was inside the joints type shit. It was like, bro, I've heard this from other people. How? How?

I used to take apart my equipment and put it back together because I was looking for the people inside. Oh, shit. Then I learned how to do schematics.

I'm a Radio Shack kid. I know how to make transceivers, transponders, I'm a Radio Shack kid. I know how to make transceivers, transponders. I'm technical. I had my first soldering kit at 14 or 15.

I think I was 15. I had a soldering kit. Soldering is wild. I learned soldering in junior high, bro. They don't even teach that shit on D anymore. How to put together

like the motherboard. I still got a shit that I made in junior high that lights up. I'm soldering it. I'm a fucking nerd. I hate it. Trying to be cool. That'm soldering it. I'm a fucking nerd. I hate it. Trying to be cool.

That ain't nice shit. That's real shit. What the fuck going on over here? What fucking geek? What fucking geek? Everybody needs to be a fucking nerd, bro.

Yeah. No, no. It's so dope because I love the fact that, you know, us coming from the East Coast hearing DJ Krip,

that's all we thought of was gang culture. We thought of like, you know, us coming from the East Coast, hearing DJ Krip, that's all we thought of was gang culture. We thought of, like, you know, and then, like, again, again, when we see West Coast dudes rocking jerry curls and then perms, like, because we hadn't seen that on the East Coast.

When we seen that, we identified with that as, oh, at first, we were like, wait a minute. They different. Why they don't got a fade? Why they half moon that? You know what I mean? And then we said, oh, at first it was like, wait a minute. They different. Why they don't got a fade? What's their half moon that? You know what I mean? And then we said, oh, shit. That's gang shit. Not the perm, though. Yeah, the perm too. It was. The perm was gang shit?

Yeah. I thought it was some pimp shit. Nah. Yeah, it was. That pimp is down with the gang. Well, I mean, yeah. That makes sense, right? Well, fuck it. I guess I was with the gang because I liked my shit. I was with the Ice-T gang. When I seen Ice-T hair,

I wanted my hair like Ice-T. So if we're not gangbangers, I mean, y'all can say his little CSI career is what it is, but I like that Ice-T that off the six in the morning motherfucking vinyl,

off the motherfucking Cold Wind Madness on Saturn Records that Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis produced. I wanted to wear my hair like Ice-T on motherfucking that Power Madness on Saturn Records that Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis produced. I wanted to wear my hair like Ice-T on motherfucking that Power album on Warner Brothers. That's the Ice-T.

I did my hair like that. And Shabby Blue and Pimpin' Carl. Shout out to Ice-T, man. Ice-T is a G. Thank you, Tracy. You know, I think that's the misconception of California, though. Because you think because he's obtained this knowledge that he won't fuck you up, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's the point.

That's not true. The flip side is this. So I'm going to tell a story that happened during ego tripping. I'm not, I'm just getting my life started. Like, I'm problem. I'm able to come in here with Snoop Dogg. I'm seeing everybody every day. So at this point, we're like two weeks in.

He's taking a liking to me. Okay, so say that again. Say that again. I'm sorry. Okay, we're working on Ego Tripping. Terrence has brought me in, but now I'm like two weeks in of this six-month situation. Yeah, motherfucker. And he's figured out that I'm from the same area as him.

I don't believe it. Here, you're going to sit with me. But y'all knew to each other, though. No, we didn't know. I didn't know each other. We knew each other, but we're not like this But y'all knew to each other though No We didn't know I didn't know each other We knew each other But we're not like this Not like this

Right Like we had always shown love We've been confident Right This is like every day We meet up at 10 Leave at 2 2 in the morning

The whole thing So I'm sitting with him And like We was working a lot That shit was crazy I'm sitting with him While he's mixing one of the records

On Ego Trippin So I used to sit there and just kind of watch. You know what I'm saying? He's working the big board, but he's one of the first ones dialing in analog with digital. Like, this was 2009, 2008, something like that. So I'm just kind of just watching, just watching, watching. And Rihanna's coming through there, motherfucker. Anybody's coming through there, but he don't break.

He on, he on. So Karrue brings somebody by one night and it's maybe 30 people in the studio while he's mixing and maybe 19 of them are women. And it's like a five to 11 type city where it's like guys, summer gangs, whatever. So this guy walks in and he like, what's up? What's up? What's up? Like if I came in here and went across the room, it was just like, what's up? What's up? What's up? Like if I came in here and went across the room, it was just like, what's up? What's up? What's up? What's up?

What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? He get to him and he go, what's up, Kev? And then he go, what's up? What's up? So he's fucking around and he just looks up at me, go like this.

I look at him and he go, he just hop up. He like, what's happening, blood? Who the fuck you talking to? He just go on one. He like, I was having blood. What the fuck you talking to? He just go on one. Like, niggas tree top. Whoa, whoa, whoa,

whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey nigga, got me fucked up. So I'm sitting there like this. I'm like, so I'm like,

cause he said everybody else. Cause him only. It's a bunch of, I'm like, so mind you, I only know like the version y'all just saw with the words. But I'm, I'm, I'm 10, 11 years y'all just saw with the words. Right? But I'm 10, 11 years old listening to this, nigga.

I'm like, I want to see that other thing too. You know there's another version. Nigga. Hey, that dude, that dude, like he said, oh, man. My man, ooh. He was like, nigga, you better. Nigga, ooh. He sat down.

He said, hey, could you adjust the oscillators with the left? I swear to God, I'm sitting there like, oh my God, this is the craziest thing. And to the point where the dude left, corrupt finds out about it, corrupt finds out about it, drives him back, apologized to Uncle Quick, cuz or I'm going to knock you you out It just became this other thing

That go on and he apologized and he left And then I was like This is DJ Quick in a nutshell right here He really wanna be chillin But niggas keep tappin at him And then I I'm gonna ask that question quick You think Homeboy did that

On purpose or I know he did it on purpose You can Homeboy did that on purpose or? I know he did it on purpose. Okay. You can't not do it on purpose. Come on, come on. It just wasn't the time. It was inappropriate time. Sometimes we have bad times. That was not the time because

we were on the clock and I'm getting gang tested while I'm on the clock. This is a caveat. Let's make this make sense. Do you mind if I trip a little? He looked at me. I just looked. Do you mind if I trip a little?

Look here. He hopped up and was on one. Let me talk to you. You see me? Don't you ever, ever, ever, ever come in this business talking that shit. I don't know who you is, but I know that somebody somewhere must love you because you're here.

Now, get back to them safely. Because if you play that shit one more time, I'm going to show you what to do. And I hate being that guy, but don't come in here with that. That's like the teacher of the class. You're not going to corrupt this whole class. I got students. I'm going to kick your ass outside. Let me...

Nope, turn the phone off. Intercom, do not alert the front office. I'm going to deal with this in the hallway. Right. And then after it happened, he looked at me. He better have. After he did, he looked at me.

I'm going to beat that boy both ways this Sunday. You remember, he looked at me. He better have. After he did, he looked at me. He was like, I'm going to beat that boy both ways this Sunday. You remember? He looked at me. He was like, I think it's just a gang. They just threw me. Did I bang on you, too? Oh, my God. That's immature.

Oh, my God. So why not? He looked at me. He looked at me. He just was like, you ain't had no friends. Did I go up there? It was amazing. Like, as a child that was just watching this.

You kind of expected it in this way, but you were waiting for it. No, it's not that I expected it. It was just like I hadn't seen it yet. All right. I don't know. Bro, you know what I'm saying? He was an asshole. No, no, you did what you were supposed to do.

But I'm saying I hold him at such a high regard. Right. It's like, not will he go down there. Does he still like to go down there? It makes it sound primitive as shit. It felt like he was- That's not the way he said it, though. No, it's right.

He could have literally ignored it, and it wouldn't have did anything. Because he's out of status, and he could have ignored it. Bro, this is DJ fucking quick. Right, exactly. He could have literally, he could have like kicked me twice, not a fire on that nigga, just because I'm with him. Right, right. It was just like, let me show you something real fast.

Let me show you something real quick. No, white lighters are a jinx. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. He's like, it just like, hold on. I got to see what I grew up listening to. Yeah. So let me ask you quick, right? Because in certain places, blood is is a slang right right blood is like

saying somebody's saying what's up blood is a slang but they don't mean they don't mean they don't mean they don't mean gangbanging in certain places cuz is a slang right yes can you identify if someone called you a blood or a cuz in a place that isn't gangland? That's random. Yeah, that's random. This is the funny thing. The thing is, is that's... Oh shit. What the fuck? Oh shit, they ready for this question. I'ma smoke your weed when I come back. Let's go, do whatever you need How long did it take you to think of that question though? How long did it take you to come up with that question? No, I just told him it just now

That was random? It just came naturally? That was ill We have been desensitizing Blood and Crip and Cuz And all the nicknames As much as we've been trying to desensitize the word nigga. Wow.

We're making it more common and we're taking ownership of it. We're turning it into terms of endearment and love. But it's kind of hard when you really know the truth about derogatory terms and all this. But if we could just take the sting out of it, all of it, it's just like, oh, my God. I mean, it don't have to be political we're deep we're we're citizenizing like he says citizen we're citizenizing buzz and crisps we just we're just all citizens bro and we're all the same color at the same time you know i mean it's anything every it's everything everything we're all at once but at least let's control the energy and the narrative of it.

Like, let's diffuse the bullshit. Let's make it more to where I can come and get a fucking burger at Tam's, bro, in your neighborhood, and it's fine. Because I like fucking pastrami on my fries. I'm an asshole. Y'all got it over here. I'm not going to mess with your girls. That show, I show, I keep

saying I've just never seen it. And let me ask y'all, because what Kendrick said on stage was, it wasn't just the first time. Y'all was at rehearsal before that, right? Yeah, they rehearsed. Oh, man, the rehearsal. Oh, yeah, the rehearsal. That shit was like the county jail. Talk about that, though. That shit was like the county jail at first, bro.

That shit was like the county jail. It was a lot, man. And just like, the way you pull in, in it was just like you get to see who pulling up and again i'm probably like the oldest here so i'm just kind of just watching energy me and wacko we watching i'm like okay yeah oh okay they got okay they coming oh okay and everybody brought their version to everybody so it was cool yeah i'm? And then like DJ Head, he set the tone. Everybody came with the attitude of like, it's time to win. Yeah. And like everybody.

Nobody was on bullshit. Nobody looked scared. Nobody was nervous. Nobody was thinking it was about to be like people I think were excited to be welcomed. Thought of. I think, were excited to be welcomed. Thought of. I think that's what it was. Like everybody felt like they were happy to be welcomed. And not only that, like I would have thought something would have leaked from the rehearsals.

The fact that every, y'all was all in cahoots. Like, like, like, like. That's real. That's it. It was all love up there. Somebody would have violated. It was all love up there, though. It was all love.

Cahoots is right up. For me, I got to see. So y' It was all love up there though It was all love For me For me For me I got to see So y'all was all together Yeah I got to see how like 500 million dollar businesses run Is what I got to watch Like they were definitely

Like if you do this You can't perform You do this You can't perform You do this You can't Whatever like That's not

That's above my pay grade. I don't know what I saw. I just know if you did six, seven things, your ass up out of there. And I'm for all of that. I imagine Dr. Dre wasn't at rehearsals. He was. He was? He was.

Really? Dr. Dre was at rehearsals? Oh, shit. I left early. Yeah, he was there. But that had to be one of those, like, don't say that. Nah, Dre was fucking comfortable as fuck. You know what I'm saying?

Like, don't say nothing about... No, we wasn't saying nothing about nothing. Like, you couldn't... No, like, bro, we knew what we was about to do to the city. It was like, hold on. Like, why would I be the one that leaked it? Then fuck it up.

Respectfully, the world, not the city. Nah. The world. No, no, no, no, no. The city. The world got to watch it. This it up. The world. Not the city. Nah. No, no, no, no, no. The city. The world got to watch it. This was really about Los Angeles.

Like, bro, I heard, it was really about that. It was really about that. Like, I heard, I don't know this is true, so don't do that, but I heard

there was refunds if you were, if your area code wasn't in California. Yeah, I heard that. I heard you say that. I heard that. I was like, yo, this nigga wild. He tripping.

Bro, The Weeknd was in the spot. Straight up. The Weeknd was in the spot. Rick Ross. They wasn't going on that stage, though. No, that was a ball. Yeah, they wasn't on stage. E40 narrating it. Come on, that was G... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They wasn't on stage. Nah. E40 narrating it. Come on, that was...

Bro, that was genius, man. That was epic. Yeah, bro, it was... Nah, why would we be the ones that make it leak and then we be on the weirdo side of things? That's called sabotage. Right. Bro didn't need None of us there

For us For y'all to watch So it's like Nah We not about to do that This is This is about to be cool I didn't know

I was going to do this But But It's a great time For California For y'all I think it was great For hip hop

For everywhere I think it was bigger Than California I mean Obviously it was dope West Coast But I think it represented Hip hop too It's big for hip-hop, too.

It's big for hip-hop and showing that camaraderie and that unity that, you know what I mean, that we've never seen from that side. We've never seen from that side since All In The Same Gang. You know, that's been our whole thing, talking about that. And to see it, like I said, I was on vacation somewhere. I forget where I was at. I just took a picture at first. And I was just like, wait a minute.

That shit just looked crazy to me. It tripped out. Like, I went, when we landed, I had to go to the mall to grab some shit or whatever. And I'm just like, I saw the billboard pop up. And I saw it, like, pop up all over the mall. I'm like, yo. Wait, after the show? Yesterday.

The mall is here. The mall is here. I flew into Miami. I went to go grab some shit for, you know what I'm saying, just hanging out or whatever. The mall is here. The mall is here. I flew into Miami. I went to go grab some shit for, you know what I'm saying, just hanging out or whatever, and I'm just watching the billboard. And he's on the fucking billboard in the mall. Yeah, he is too. We're just watching it, but I'm in Miami, bro.

I'm not at the house. You know what I'm saying? We got ours at the house. I heard it's like 11 to 12 cities that shit is floating around through, and it's about to triple up. So for that to just be something that you can say you was a part of. And it's well-deserved. Man, shout out to that boy, Kendrick, man, PG Lang, Free Lunch, DJ Head, Mustard, everybody that was involved.

Shout out to everybody. For sure. For us to see that, though, outside of L.A.? Come on, man. Wow. Fuck me up. That's dope. Wow.

Wow, make some noise for that. That's dope. Wow. Wow, make some noise for that. That's great. I'm going to be honest, I could do this all night. But damn, that was so dope, man. I'm so proud of what y'all doing, what y'all continue to do. You know what? I'm proud of your whole coast, man. You know what I'm proud I'm proud of your whole coast man you know what I'm saying

to tell you the truth even us being from the east coast we didn't have no west coast beef it was stupid we was following some dumb shit and they was following some dumb shit but for me to see y'all do that together because guess what just like how you just said

you just seen on the Bloods do that then the Crips should follow suit after we see the LA do that New York should follow suit yeah remember um self-destruction came first right now all in the same didn't as the orders the game now this is y'all all in the same game coming first now New York gotta step it up gotta do they sell nothing the same game coming first. Now New York got to step it up, man. Got to do their self-destruction. No, I think, I think. I thought he was on

self-destruction, huh? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's why he cares. That's why he wants to make sure. Y'all made sure. I know Chris on another level. What?

Entertainment when he's on Yard. That's a whole other story. But what? Yo, but no, I just want to tell y'all how proud I am of y'all, man. Because, and how proud I am

of y'all being proud of y'allself. I don't know if that makes sense, but what I'm saying is I can see it with y'all like I see the way y'all walk now I can see y'all haircuts are different your clothes different your shirts are silky you know what I mean

your restaurants are more expensive you know what I mean like it's just all it's just all beautiful. And it's just like, I got to see it. Like I said, obviously, I can't. I'm not that connected. But for those five days just walking around and me traveling to LA for 27 years, 26 years,

you know what I'm saying? And I'm seeing y'all, it's the morale has just boosted back. And it's just like, that's ill what Kendrick did. You know what I'm saying? And I think it's bigger than the West Coast, because I think he wants y'all to do the same thing. Atlanta do the same. Chicago do the same.

Bro, this about hip hop. It's about hip hop not becoming this. Bro, hip hop can't turn into the drug business, bro. Niggas be dying and going to jail. Yeah, man. I think it's way bigger than the West Coast. It's way bigger. I think it's a big hip-hop movement.

And Kendrick represents this hip-hop movement that he was inspired by. Not even hip-hop. The West Coast resonated. Hip-hop. Somewhere else. But he brought it to the West, and he took it everywhere. He's like, yo, this is what we doing, guys. Absolutely.

F-ing. You're F-ing right. I like that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I, guys. Absolutely. You're effing right. I like that. I love Clifford saying the name right the whole time. I love Clifford right now. He's the only nigga that say EFN. Is that bad? His name is EFN.

Jay-Z said the devil's in the details. Let's talk about that before we get off here. I like that we're drinking his liquor, too. Yes, yes, yes, yes. What happens when you get this call that Jay-Z wants to work with you? First of all, I don't believe it. Right. I've been in that house for a year.

Hold on, you said you. By myself. You know, I cut the outside world off. Remember your man said I was in the house for a year? And he's right. But it was like, my agent was like, hey, man, don't fuck this up, bro. Like, you already fucked up the entourage meeting, dude, for HBO. I'm like, I'll be up there. I'm up there with Kevin

Bacon now, watching Payroll get done. So I'm fucking, he got me this kid's, man, he's my, I miss this guy. I need to get this agent back. Anyway, he was like, Dre, like, he said, Jay likes one of your beats, bro. You got to go to New York. So I went to New York and stayed in fucking Jay's studio for a while.

Baseline? Like five days. Yeah, baseline. Okay. And then, you know, I was like, I'm here. They was like, click dust and get it. Just leave him there. Just tell him I'll be there.

Right? Don't tell him I'm a penis. Right? Don't tell them I'm a penis. You're out of control of the impersonation. Is that bad? No, no. Not bad. Monday, I got all this morale. I'm fading on Thursday.

It's like going into Friday, and then they can pull up with Beyoncé. I'm like just, it just went too hard. I was just like, they finally came out. So you had to wait three days, you said? I love how he moved. Like, he has stuff to do. He's a busy guy in here. But, no, it was funny.

Like, you know. Then he pulled up, and I was like, bro, god damn, thanks, man. Bro, I've been here. Like, man, Guru is too smart, bro. Like, don't put me in a room with this smart thanks, man. Bro, I've been here. Like, man, Guru is too smart, bro. Like, don't put me in a room with this smart motherfucker, bro. Niggas showing me shit I've never seen before, bro. Like, bro, just pick. Do you like the beat?

He's like, quick, what size shoe you wear? I wear 11 and a half. Got you. Got the S-D dots coming on the way right now you gotta love this print quick you gotta see

what I did it's the best ever they'll know when they see it Jay-Z I'm doing that horrible Jay-Z

but Jay is he always he's ahead he's always ahead he's a bro he's one of the greatest writers ever He always, he's ahead. He's always ahead. Bro, he's one of the greatest writers ever. I watched him write without writing.

It's like on Inner Dragon, it's the art of fighting without fighting. Has that been the first time you saw that? Yeah, I couldn't believe it. I was like, how the fuck did, I mean, I was still walking around with a pencil and paper until I seen Jay-Z. I was like, oh, I guess I don't need that anymore. Go ahead. This motherfucker wrote the song

without writing anything down in other songs I'm like how the fuck is he doing this he listened to the beat he hummed a little bit got his fucking Gucci shoes on but they're his it's like he bought Gucci

you remember them shoes fire but they're his. It's like he bought Gucci. You remember them shoes? Yes. Fire. Y'all talking about the Black Album, right? Yes. Oh my God. This dude.

Oh, this dude. He had this hat and he changed his hat. He was like, all right, I got it. Guru. Show me the door. You know,

you got me, Guru? Then they went there and just nailed it. Came back out. He did like one take. He was like, run it again. I'll do it again. Killing that one.

It's like, it's like Jay. Them shits is all good. He was like, and Google was like, quick, just let him, quick, just let him do it. I'm like, bro, like the record's done. He just, bro, he just did three 16 bar verses without writing anything down. How do y'all just... Am I tripping? That's some genius shit.

Like, that's the fuck y'all been doing? Right, right. And you realize they've been doing this. You trying to stop me. We over. At that moment. Right? I'm like, oh, this nigga's a machine.

Oh, fuck. So all the fucking change clothes, it all makes sense. All of it. Team J all the way. Okay. But I just couldn't believe that he didn't write that shit down on Justify My Thug. I came a little short on the beat because I tried to hurry up and mix it. And Trey needed his studio back.

I mixed that shit at Record One, which is the best studio in the world. And that was the Madonna sample? She still does that, bro. She still does that. Like, we was scrubbing. in the world. And that was the Madonna sample. She still has that, bro. She still has that. Like, we was scrubbed. I mean, she might be cool with it, too. She was supposed to come and be like, just a five-month-old.

She was going to be on it? She was going to be on it. She flaked on us on the last day, and we was just so confused. I'm like, she show up for the podcast with me, but she want to show up for DJ Quick. I was so hurt. But girls, you can't predict what they're going to do. But hey, we soldiered on. We did it. And that's the back story.

That's my favorite. That's top two. And I'll say that. That's the albums for me. I'll say that. For sure. For sure. She was supposed to come up there.

I would have, man, give her her privacy. Just go in there and sing that shit like you did on that nasty video you did. He's having fun. No, we love you, Madonna.oked about it. He's having fun. No, we love you, Madonna. You were wrong. He's having fun. Hey, you abandoned your kid at school. Oh, what the fuck?

That mean? We got it. We got it. We got it. It's done. She abandoned her. It's done. We're done.

It's over. You taking the picture now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got one more question. What? Hey, I got to watch you. I got to watch you. I got to watch you. I got to watch you. I got to watch you. I got to watch you.

I got to watch you. I got to watch you. Come on. Yeah, I got to watch you. I got to watch you. By the way, I'm taking a shot for that. Shout out to Madge. I got one more question because...

Y'all better use this too. She owe me something. No, no, no. We ain't... We use it. We not use it. What the fuck? Make up your mind.

Listen. You know, Geminis, right? And Tupac, right? Hey, relax. I'm saying that it's like three different versions.

I don't appreciate none of that, bro. Gemini disrespect. It may be two. It may be two. What's your birthday? May 28th. But in this case,

January 18th. Super Gemini. May 30th. But hold on, hold on, hold on. In this case, January 18th, Super Junior Night. But hold on, hold on, hold on. In this case with Tupac, there is two different versions of it. There is like a digital underground version. Then there's that version right in between. And then it's the death row version. That's not a version, though, bro. He's a young man.

I toured with him, bro. He was a roadie. He was a roadie. Thank was a roadie on our tour. Thank you, but I didn't ask you. Hold on, y'all. He was a roadie on the tour. What did you do on the ground? But he was shining on stage.

Like, we were all, you know, we were all, that was Tommy Boy. We were profiled. It was on Tommy Boy. It was Capitol Records. Bro, it was all the same thing. But Pac was like, he was the Humpty Dance record, right? When everybody was doing Humpty Dance, Pac was more like the director, like the, you know. Choreographer?

I wouldn't call it that. Okay. He was just the brightest diamond in the bunch. Mm-hmm. You know? And he made the shows lit. So when Shock did the record for him, it just blew him up. We all waited for that.

Mm. You know what I'm saying? He was this dope little, he was almost like a Black Panther, but we didn't know that's what it was. He just had a lot of enthusiasm. Mm. You know what I mean? At that young age. That shit was amazing. He was dating yo-yo.

He was dating fucking yo-yo, bro. Wait, Pac was dating yo-yo? Yeah, that's not news. No, no, I know. How old was he in Digital Underground? Like 20. No, in his teens. Money Love denied that part. Cat.

Bro, what's up? No, he was cheating. I'm just, I'm just, that's my fan shit. That's my fan shit. No. That's my fan shit. He was cheating, but he was. I wouldn't believe that.

I mean, Pac was out there. He was out there. Bro, we were looking up to Shock G. Shock G was like, this is the next thing. You know what I mean? Like, he already set it up. He was like, quick, this is the next thing. Like, and He knew it.

When he sampled Roger Troutman to do Pac's record, that was like an homage. Because, you know, only Ice Cube at that point could rap over zap beats. That's how we saw it. But he got the rap over zap beat. Done by a Bay Area beast like Greg Jacobs. Shout out to the great Shaq G. Rest in peace, Shaq G. Rest in peace, Shaq G.

I still can't wait. Come on, man. So let me ask you, do you look at Pac like a Bay Area guy, or you look at him like an LA guy? I look at him as the fucking roadie on the tour who got it got got his record out he he he did he got outrapped on his first album unfortunately ice cube got on there and just shined it was what it was but he was he it was like he was a prize fighter on his very first album his very first album everybody knows no secret but the fact that he came back

and did this thing where he just took on this persona. When I heard Dear Mama, bro, like, I got out of my car. He changed

from all that, you know, hippity skippity hoppity, you know, Dossifix, whatever he was going for. It was like, it was his thing.

He was telling his story. And, you know, it was cool, but I was being, maybe I was being vain because I was already rich and famous. And I probably didn't listen to him like I should have. I didn't hear his civil rights guy until I heard Dear Mama. And it was like, and then I had to go back.

Unfortunately for me, I was wrong. And I had to go back and listen to his discography again. And reintroduce myself to him when I was too busy promoting my own records. Tupac Amaru Shakur was a beast in the studio. It was one of the most funnest times I had in my life and I wish I could have been there because I would have easily jumped in front of the shooter.

What do you think would have happened if Pac would have still been signed to Death Row but didn't indulge in gangbanging activity? It wasn't gangbanging activity. He was never off of fucking. He was never free from that case. He was out on parole.

So he never got comfortable because he knew at some point maybe you have to go to jail. I don't know. He wasn't free. Right. It's real. He still had to go and rectify that situation, which we all later found out what it was. But it was like he didn't, he never felt free. That's why he never furnished his houses.

That's why he, you know, it was fleeting between him and Kadad. And I love them both. Like, I wish that was, they were a beautiful dream that we were just watching come to fruition. And it didn't end up the way it was supposed to end up. Kadad, you're talking about Chrissy Jones' daughter, right? I'm talking about his wife. I don't know all about Chrissy. You know, I wasn't in her daddy business at that point.

I remember him and the cute girl, Kidada. You know, that was love. That was finally, I was like, yeah, love, you know? Well, God damn, man. He didn't get a chance to live his life, bro. And that sucks because we're all just left with all these questions and what ifs and hypotheses that don't mean anything. We're just throwing ideas.

Like, we're just crumbling butterflies, bro. Talking about what could have been. This is dope, though. Like, this is a dope, like, hip-hop conversation. Thank you so much for allowing me to sit in and watch this it's crazy to me bro i hope you are entertaining you're not entertaining it was crazy to me it's crazy to me to just watch bro just as fans of everybody just like this is crazy yo let me just tell you something i appreciate appreciate this. And this is also eight years of brutal

beatdowns me and EFN been receiving. They've been like, yo, you fronted on quick. And we're like, what? They was set tripping on. We've been trying to get numbers on quick. We've been trying to get that through so bad.

Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, please. I ain't gonna lie. I can't beat what you're doing. I can't tell at you so bad. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. I ain't got a lot. I can't tell y'all. We couldn't reach him. Y'all got banged up by internet gangsters. Absolutely. Why do you think that happened? It was so crazy.

I'm like, bro, this nigga on Mafia, he don't give access. You know what I'm saying? Listen to me. I'm scared. Very like, whoa, this is dope. I'm going to get him for my all. Listen, your fans is in there with one of the. As they should be.

As they should be. As they should be banging it for you, bro. That's what's crazy. That's why when he said both, I can tell that when he left Majors, his fans went with him with their independence. Some of them did. Yeah. They did.

Nah. His shows are crazy, bro. We'd be like, what's the set? He'd be like, I'll let y'all know when we get out there. We'll be freestyling. The whole show, bro. We don't know what's about to happen. We just kind of sitting there.

Right. And we end up in the crowd. It's beautiful. It's bad. He end up in the crowd. It's beautiful. It's bad. He like producing on the spot. We're ready for the living room. It's about to turn up. It's about to be crazy.

We ain't got to say where. We ain't got to do nothing. Get ready for the living room. It's going to be crazy. My backyard is turning into what it's supposed to be. Everywhere I go, I just watch them build it on fucking Google Earth. It's going to be fun. I'm so happy to fucking see this

bro like bro this is amazing my house is so cool yeah I fuck with it man thank y'all man so much thank you Nori you're a bad motherfucker I'm just telling y'all man like you know hip hop has its way of shifting and going places that it's supposed to be

when it's supposed to be and right now it's y'all world you know say that like i i i ain't afraid to admit that and i ain't ashamed to admit that it's it's y'all world like you know i got to feel it like i said i only been when i was out there like five days but that five days in in in the five percent teachers that's power refinement and then that was actually what's the first word of that is power and i got to feel it like i got to feel it like you know i'm saying like i've been out there so long so i got my own little people that i fuck with but i'm i'm sitting out there and i'm watching it and i'm feeling it and i'm in the energy it's just euphoric like it's everywhere like and it's just like you know what

um that's what's the biggest thing about it you know you know god so him and you know kendrick and drake you know beef and whatever the thing is he brung y'all back together that's it and that shit is so like and i want to congratulate y'all and i want to tell y'all continue to do the thing because right now you know maybe yeah hip-hop does come from the east coast it does come from New York right now y'all leading it. It's y'all the leaders Yeah, just like everybody can come to Hollywood man come to Compton I get the LA I'm, I don't have no problem with nobody. But come to Compton,

man. I think the white girl came to the last radio. Hold on, let me do this. Let me do this. You're not about to do that.

I see what's happening there. Listen, Queens, right? That's why white people can come to Queens. That's right. God damn it.

But they can come to Compton. That's right. We're not here to harm or hurt nobody. That shit's done. Come on to the city, bro. We're going to get this motherfucking Compton Walk of Fame going next. Get ready for the Compton Walk of fucking fame.

Ain't no point of bringing that to Hollywood. I fuck with y'all. Let's get that Dr. Dre, that Kendrick, that DJ Quick, DeMar DeRozan, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Let's get that right there, Rosecrans.

Right. The first place. Set up Rosecrans. It's the block that go through everything. Let's get it up. Yeah, Rosecrans. You get what I'm saying? I'm going to take a ride

through Rosecrans. I can do it? Definitely. Just the whole thing. Yeah, bro. And it goes to the beach, though. That's the shit. Okay.

Compton got a beach? No. No, it goes to the beach. You can take that to the beach. Rosecr'm going to go to the beach, though. That's the shit. Okay. Compton got a beach? No. No, it goes to the beach. You can take that to the beach. Take it to the beach. It goes right to the beach. If you get off when it ends, you're at the coast. You're on Pacific Coast Highway.

P-A-C-H. You know what? P-C-H? Pacific Coast Highway? Yeah. I like P-C-H. I like P-C-H. We're going to build a beach in Compton.

Fuck all of that. We need a beach. We need a beach. We need a beach. We need Compton. Fuck all of that. We need a beach. We need a fucking beach. We need to have a beach in Dubai. We need to have a beach in Compton. I need to wear one of my jet skis. I don't want to go nowhere else. Listen, my brothers, I couldn't be so more happier, man.

I thank y'all so much. So before we get up out here, is there anything y'all feel like you want to say, get off your chest or anything? I'm so happy to be here. And I'm so happy to watch this fucking man be able to get his fucking moment. Because you know what? He was talking retired talk to me. Oh, yeah. We left that out.

This nigga was prime right now, bro. And he just started. He just getting Nah, nah. Oh, yeah. Y'all, we done left that out. This nigga was prime right now, bro. Man, he just getting started. He just getting started, man, and I can't wait to watch this man get his fucking block. Let's go. Yes! This is my Henry

Wiggler. This is the Fonz, y'all. This is the real Fonz. He's that swaggy character that actually gets us major record deals with just a little effort. This dude is whipping people into shape, bro. This is great, bro.

You've been motivating me lately. Come on, man. Let's keep going. I got one more question. I watched you on another interview and this was prior to the NWA album, Compton movie coming out. Yeah. And they said to you, are you excited?

And I think you said you saw the trailers or whatever. But I don't think there's been something documented if you co-signed the Straight Outta Compton movie after you've seen it. For you being there. There's no trauma or drama there. I go to Easy's grave in fucking Rose Hills. Right. And I rectify that by that. Okay.

So I still see it as tangible. I'm related to this guy in a way that's like brotherly and honest and even though i boohooed it poopooed it earlier loyalty i still fuck with eric so i'm very partial to how he's being portrayed yeah you know i mean and if i don't like it i don't like it if i like it i like it because i know the real him and i knew how he would react react and respond if you look at the NWA videos, they're all works of art. That's like some Andy Warhol shit. It's just brilliant. But that's who he was.

He saw it bigger than what we saw it. We saw it just so we can get enough money to get the bins. He saw it to where he can get enough money to go have dinner with the president and get a million dollars worth of press on a $1,500 ticket. So do you think... Do you think straight...

He was a genius? I miss him. I want to add on to what he's saying. It's just kind of fucked up, bro. Like, with our films, we don't get to have people from our area play us.

But this one, Dr. Dre and Ice Cube I don't know. This is just a, we we just having a fan conversation. So when I watch movies that represent the East Coast, I can never get that role to play Noriega in a film. When we watch Atlanta, outside of my boy Jackie Long, it's kind of tough. They play a little bit ball, but they have like the main representatives of Los Angeles. I'll be Atlanta, I'm playing Atlanta guys guys yeah snowfall we didn't get that opportunity a lot of our films are like the league guys are not from where we're from so it's kind of tough and and easy the guy that played

easy is my friend so we've had this conversation um but he's from new orleans and it's just like for me it's like bro, like Friday work because everybody was from Los Angeles. We got to see it. But do you think that's a regional thing? Because me... No, I think it's

a Hollywood budget thing. Oh, man. What? I think it's a Hollywood budget thing. Too rich for my blood. I don't think it's... I don't think it's

nothing to do with none of that. It's a Hollywood budget thing. And we got to... Like, I've auditioned for roles for shit in Compton. They told me, no, you don't think it's nothing to do with none of that. It's a Hollywood budget thing. And we got to, like, I've auditioned for roles for shit in Compton. They told me, no, you don't fit. That's crazy. That doesn't make any sense. They got to get somebody from another city.

Their version of what they think my city is is totally off. That's why it doesn't resonate. And it don't work. You better say, tell that truth. It's off. I'm from Compton just like he is. Just like Jay Worthy comes through there. Just like Game is

and Roddy and YG and Kendrick. Let's go Steve Lacey. Let's go Thundercat. Let's go Buddy. Let's go AB. Let's go AD. Let's go Pun. We're all 19 different niggas. You're not going to just tell us what we are.

That's the fucking problem with all of this shit. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to the community. You know what I'm saying? Figmunity. Everybody that's doing their thing in that space. Nah, we got to like readjust this thing. It was clowns, basketball players, gangbangers, ladies, dancers, kids, icons, street niggas on that one picture.

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