Drink Champs - Episode 423 w/ Rapman

Episode Date: August 16, 2024

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the one and only, Rapman!Rapman joins us to share his journey. Rapman talks about the London Hip-Hop scene, his come up as an MC and much more!Rapman talks about creating his Netflix hit series Supacell and much much more!Lot’s of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise for Rapman!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆   *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And this is Middle Timmy. Drink Champs motherfucking. We happy hour. Make some noise. It's your boy N-O-R-E What up, it's DJ E-F-N And this is Miller Timmy Drink Champs from Miller Park I'm your yappy yamma Make some noise! And right now, when I tell you You know The game has shifted You know

When I tell you It started on the East Coast Then it went to the West Coast, I believe Then it went to the West Coast, I believe. Then it went to the South. And then at some point, it went across the pond. That's what they say, right? Across the goddamn pond.

And London is one of the hottest things happening right now. But one of the things that I appreciate about is this guy made a series he made a series with all people who look like me he made the on paper i imagine reading this on paper it's like black sci-fi superheroes like that shit must have sounded great But I watched this series And I'm telling you this is one of the best series Ever I look at it like It's the wire Meets the black panther With a little bit of Hulk

And I call it the black Avengers You know what I mean Not the Avengers The blue Avengers The black Avengers and The Black Avengers. And when I tell you, I was so happy watching this shit. Oh my God.

In case you don't know, we told my bitch about the one and only motherfucking Redman in the building. No, I'm not exaggerating. I really, I really, watching it,

I really was like, how can you, because I read what it was about, right? And then, obviously, you know, Tata's my boy. He's like, yo, you got to check this out. So I'm like, okay. I'm like, okay. And then I'm like, all right, cool.

How can we make this make sense? And then when I watched it, I was like, this is so dope. Because, see, I thought that these people already knew about their superpowers. I didn't realize that they're finding out with me as I'm watching it. So how did you come up with this idea?

You know what it is? I just, I like the genre, innit? Like, I grew up watching the Batmans and Supermans and all of that, and I always enjoyed it. But the narrative of person gets powers then get spandex in the cape it didn't make no sense because i'm not doing that you're not doing that and we've been sold that for a long time even black panther was a little don't know you get a long spandex suit and then you save the world i'm like bro if i get money now right

if i get powers i need to get some money. You know, I need money. I need to fix my situation. I need to mend relationships. I need to make sure my family's straight. Why is there not a show that's like that with powers? Right. And that's where it all just began.

I'm just wanting to see that. Right. So then when the opportunity arose, I was just like, yeah, this is what I want to do. You know, when that first came through. Right. Because, but, um,

and I heard you say, um, you said, uh, if it wasn't for Top Boy, that this wouldn't have been a success because Top Boy came first, correct?

Yeah. I don't think it would have been as accessible to you guys. I don't think you would have been more tolerant to the, to the voice, to the language, to the slang.

I think because you've watched Top Boy with them years, you're a bit used to us now, even though our rappers are crossing over now. It's like, to the language, to the slang. I think because you've watched Top Boy with them years, you're a bit used to us now. Even though our rappers are crossing over now. It's like, I think that helped it. Like a good case study for over here. So now when, you know, there's references, is it like Top Boy, is it like this,

is it like the way I saw it? I think it helped, man. Well, yeah, because you know what? It was crazy because it was times that I had to rewind because I didn't understand some of the dialect but then I thought about it I was like that's probably exactly

what people were doing with the wire like the wire was a straight Baltimore dialect they were doing it in the US I used to wonder

what's dude what's dude what's dude I said oh dude bro I learnt that language from the wire and I was like I'm not even watering it

you got gotten learn our slang. The way I tell you, I've used the slang. So, yeah, man. It's unapologetic still. So let me ask you, because was that something that came across? Yeah. Because. Fairtime Netflix would be like, you know,

they're not going to understand what they're saying. This is not even just in the States. They're saying people in the UK won't understand. South London has its own language. Right, right. And just the, we speak a certain slang. Is that Brixton?

Is that Brixton or not? Yeah, Brixton's part of South as well. Okay, okay. But in general, the real urban gritty parts of all London, we have our own slang. So when certain Netflixers

are watching it, they're not understanding what it means. Like, what does this mean? What does that mean? I was like, well, you're going to find out. But I'm not worrying it done.

This is going to be straight, raw, london show how we speak and people just have to figure out the language man you know what you know is one of the dopest things was me coming in london for as many times i came to london i always go to nando's oh you always go to nando's and i'm looking and i'm i'm sitting there with my wife and I'm like, it's going to be authentic if Nando's there. No way. And within the first five minutes, I'm like, yo, he shut me up. He shut me up like real quick. Like the first five minutes of this shit.

I was like, did I just say that? She was like, yes, calm down. That's funny. Yeah, no, 100% Nando's had to be a part of it. It's just the experience. That's the London experience. Right. It was something you said on The Breakfast Club that I wanted to refute.

You said that London slang is like New York slang. But I think you're correct. Did I say it was like Canadian slang? You said Canadian slang. Yeah, yeah. And you said- I said London's kind of like New York. But here's the part that you forgot to mix out.

I think that the Yardman slang is a part of the London slang. Yeah, 100%. And people was checking me on that. People were hitting me like the reason. Like Jamaican Pats was. Yeah, they were saying that's why the Canadians sound like the Brits because all of the Jamaicans that went over to Canada and the slang got inherited there the same way we inherited it

over here in London Should I say Yeah So yeah So that might be true I'm here to learn bro I'm here to learn That makes sense Yeah

Because You remember In my day I remember Hearing about the shower posse Being Deported From New York

And that's where they went They went to Canada And London You know what I mean Everybody didn't want to go back to the yard They was like Wait a minute But you from Nigeria

I'm from Nigeria Nigeria Yeah yeah Big up You used to steal Credit cards and shit Like that right I mean

This guy This guy I mean That's a bad Stay on time Not saying that's Not true That guy's gonna ask

You a prank Stay on time bro He said that thing Is not true I mean I'm gonna say that's not true. I'm going to say it's not true. That's a very hostile. So for those that don't know, this is a very deep part of, I'm about to say movie and didn't say documentary, but this is a series. Yes.

It's a very deep part of the series is um he attacked he attacked a very serious issue in our community and what i didn't know it was two there's two things in my life that i always wish i asked more of when pun used to go to sleep and when he used to get sick i used to always wonder i never asked him like like what are you going through like i guess i was too young so I just was like trying to ignore it. And then obviously that's when I heard sickle cell. I heard you say that you first found out from sickle cell from hit him up. Yeah, from literally from hitting him up.

Hey, why y'all got sickle cell? That was the first time I heard it. I was like, what's this sickle cell that he's using? Yeah, that's the first time I ever heard it. So what a lot of people don't know is sickle cell is a universal disease, but it runs rapid in the black community. And I heard you say something that was really, really, really, really, really deep.

You said there's supposed to be other people with sickle cell. You just never met them. I haven't met them. So what I did was I had the group Google everyone that all famous people who got sickle cell. You guys got the notes? Don't read it in Dominican now. Read it in English.

Come on. Come on. Yeah. The has to read it? Yeah, the has to read it. Nobody believes in your reading skill. He's having trouble even reading it. Hold on.

Hold on. Who? Tiki Barber from the football player. Okay. Miles Davis. Also black. Lawrence Tate.. Miles Davis. Also black. Lawrence Tate. Lawrence Tate, also black.

Lawrence Tate, I think it was a... Yeah, according to Google. This is Dominican and Colombian Google. Okay. So I don't know. Okay. Okay. Ryan Clark.

Ryan Clark. Black. You said Beanie Man? Beanie Man. Beanie Man? Pick up Beanie Man. I didn't know that King Tart

Who? King Tart King Tart King Tart the bald Egyptian Who the Egyptian nigga? King Tart the pyramid? I think he was around

Before Superstar was around Who's list is this man? I think after that I don't I think maybe I feel like you gotta Stop the list there man I think after that, I don't... I think maybe... I saw that you got to stop the list there, man. I think that's the Wikipedia list. That's almost Wikipedia list.

I wasn't even ready for that one, man. I think the list is... I think that's invalidated from there. I told you, it's Colombian and Dominican. What else? What else? Carlos Moussa. Carlos Moussa, the basketball player.

Okay. Kiki Shepard. Keith Shepard? Okay. George Floyd. George Floyd? Okay. Okay.

Wow. T-Boss. We knew that. We knew that. And Friday. And that's how the list stops. So another thing that I heard that the movie was inspired by George Floyd because of how up in the raw London was at that time. Yeah, yeah.

Can you explain that? It was a massive deal, man. I know a lot of people from the States always feel like the black pain there is not inherited, but we feel it the same way that you lot feel it. So when George Floyd got murdered, it was just an order of the shore that brought the camels back. Everyone felt it. Everyone was down.

And everyone was going to Central London protesting and doing what they was doing to raise awareness. Just to say we've had enough, do something. And even though it wasn't a problem happening on our streets in London, we felt that, man, that ricocheted. So I'm thinking, do I go central with my sign and do what I'm doing?

And I thought that was dope for everyone doing it. I was like, can I do something different? Can I do something that makes us feel like we can't just get killed and thrown into the trash and no one cares? So I said, well, if we need to do something to make us super, and that's when I really started working on the show.

But I didn't know that TV takes 100 years at the time. So I figured it would be like a movie. I started in January, it would be out by December. that's when I really started working on the show. Right. But I didn't know that TV takes 100 years at them times. So I figured it would be like a movie. I started in January, it would be out by December. Right. It took years. But I didn't know that at the time, so I really worked on it thinking it could be ready and it could come out at the end of the year

and this would be like a dedication to it. Right. You know, so, but yeah, it was just a dark time in London, man. Right. Like, it was just too much because the video was so graphic. It's about George Floyd. Yeah, man. And that was just like too much because the video was so graphic. It's about George Floyd.

Yeah, man. That was just like, ain't no one gonna do nothing. And I'll tell you, one thing I'll say in London, yeah, if that was in London, people would have jumped in.

Yeah. Like, I'm not saying they didn't, I get it, yous all got guns, the president got guns here, innit? In London,

there's no guns. Right. Like, when the police don't have guns like that. Right. So if they're trying to choke out

one of the brothers, Right. The man them are jumping in on that. Yeah. that's not that can't just flare so for us we're watching that like

they're just like four men that are choking this bed all that because what else we're going to get we jump in and we might sit

in a cell for a bit you know you can say but you know it's not a big deal but I get the fear of you jump in there you might get shot

so it was just like but we were watching it's like why is no one doing nothing why is no one helping him so it was just a big uproar

in the UK man and that's why it's playing my part you know what I'm saying and that inspired this because I believe we just said

George Floyd had sickle cell too I didn't even know that that's crazy you didn't know that I just heard that now let's hope that Google is correct.

I'm not lying. Since I heard King Tut, that list, I'm not even taking that list seriously right now. He said that shit covers the King Tut. He said it with his

whole chest as well. But you Googled it, so who... It's a whole... You should know why the Wikipedia, Wikipedia though. On King Tut,

the emperor. He said King Tut The emperor They say it started From malaria And malaria started years after King Tut You sure they ain't talking about King Tut the shooter from Brooklyn Maybe They might be talking about him An artist we don't know about

So I think I asked you this In little parts But I want to ask it in its entirety. You know, you get blessed with this opportunity. These people say, go ahead, we're going to let you do what you want. What makes you say, yo, you know what, let me take a risk on my own people? Like, I can literally count some of the white people that was in there. Like, you know what I'm saying?

In a good way. It was the bad lady. The bad lady. She was white. Like, you know what I'm saying? In a good way, it was the bad lady, the bad lady, she was white. Oh, man. You know what? The trailer came out,

yeah, and in the comments was just so much racism. Get out of here. It was crazy racism. Oh, so all the white people are villains.

Oh, I guess this ain't for me then. Oh, is this in some mystical world where London's black? I'm just like yo bro if we if we uproar like this

every time a show came out where we was in one row we would I wouldn't be able to be here because I've got to

be on the YouTube every second because there's no shows every single 90% of shows predominantly white cast especially in the UK so it's like

why the one we've got like five shows now that was all black cast I couldn't believe the racism right predominantly white cast, especially in the UK. So it's like, why the one, we've got like five shows now that are all black cast. I couldn't believe the racism. Right. Because I didn't intentionally put white people in there as villains. It was just a predominantly black cast.

So it was kind of the roles that were left over kind of thing. Like, who's there? Because this whole show was to put black actors in a position where they don't have to fly to the States to do roles. I want to give in a position where they don't have to fly to the States

to do roles I want to give them a show where they can get paid well big platform you know grow their brand with a show like this so we went out

looking for black actors to you know give them a step up so it wasn't anti-white it was just pro-black that's right you know what I'm saying

make some noise so now I'm going to say this. Now, one of my favorite characters is Taser. Taser. Let me tell you why he's one of my favorite characters, because he's human. Meaning, not to say that everyone else is not human, but what I'm trying to say is,

you figure you get powers, and then you're like, all right, cool, let me go help the homeless. That's not how certain people are. He was a wicked man before he got the powers. He stayed a wicked man after he got the powers. And he started doing some ill shit.

So, but, what made you say that balance? Because, you know, my man Michael, Michael is... He's a good guy. Like, he's the leader that's not the leader

that's the leader. Yeah. He's an unofficial leader for now. But to me, Taser was so much relatable to street people, who would get these powers and be like, yo, I'm going to rob a bank. Yeah.

Like, fuck helping the homeless. Fuck helping the wheelchair guy. These guys want to, yeah. So what made you say that, keep that balance of character? Because if I'm telling a story on normal people with powers and normal people with powers set in South London,

there is no version of South London where a guy like that doesn't exist. I'm from South London. South London is kind of like the poverty part of London. So a lot of London, not all of London, as you saw, five different characters, but that part is very prominent. And I just wanted a character that if you're in a gang war and then you get powers

you're like oh shit now you really now you've got the edge and that was Taylor's like his thing was this is a game changer with this

we can take them we can take them we can take them and that's his mind frame remember he's only a teenager he hasn't even thought about robbing the bank he's thought about

money power and respect right money power and respect so I just wanted someone realistic as he gets older he's probably going to say Right. He hasn't even thought about robbing a bank. He's still about money, power, and respect right now. Right, money, power, and respect. So I just wanted someone realistic. As he gets older, he's probably going to say, why didn't I just rob a bank? But at the moment,

he's just trying to put his team on. He's trying to get his team to the next level. Okay, now, this is something that I was waiting to ask you so, but first of all, before I ask you straight up that,

I'm 46 years old. I don't condone violence anymore. But every now and then... Anymore. Anymore. That ain't the Nori Alvarez I used to listen to, bro. The Nori Alvarez I used to listen to used to condone a lot of violence, bro.

Let me just tell you something. That's why he said anymore. No, no, no. I don't say that anymore. But it's a scene. It's a scene where Taser is on the bike, and they got their bandanas on. And I was like, I want to be with them. Like, they were looking so cool.

Like, I'm just telling you, like I said, I started this off with, I don't want to condone violence. But I was like, I want to be there. Like, they went through the hood. People started, ah, ah, ah, on us. And they're on the bikes. But they look so smooth.

They look so, I was like, I would like to be there and help out. Be a part of the violence. Yeah. It looked just so cool. And it was for a good cause.

They wanted revenge, man. Yes, they wanted revenge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, is it like that in London? Yeah pretty much Yeah The whole back thing

It was a way for the two gangs For the gangs to move Because there's no license plates Right Remember London We're CCTV everywhere There ain't no license plates On pedal bikes

So if you're beefing An area where It's literally a pedal bike away You get there You get caught There's no Unless you get caught There you're beefing An area where It's literally A pedal bike away You get there You get caught There's no Unless you get caught There you're not

You know They can't catch you There ain't no Latest plate There ain't no You ain't getting A ticket I didn't even know

That You can type in On YouTube And you can look at PYG There was a gang in Brixton And there was a gang in Peckham They used to beef back in the day

And you see a very A real shot Of the gang I can't remember if it was Brixton guys there's a gang in Peckham they used to beef back in the day and you see a very a real shot of the gang I can't remember if it was Brixton guys to Peckham or Peckham guys to Brixton but you see a similar shot where there's much more people

on the bikes going to the area and you do that because scooters pedal bikes no license plates because they did it they did it again

so there's no getting caught yeah so that's wow so now not only that this is this is an important question To me personally

It's very distinctive That you see one side is red And you see the other side Blue I didn't hear them calling each other Bloods or Crips But I also remember Me going to San Diego

And seeing the same shit But like, but with Mexican gangs. It's different for them. Yeah, yeah. It's north and south a lot for them. Norteños and Serenos. So is it something like that, like, where these gangs use the same colors as Bloods and Crips? It's not for Bloods and Crips, no. Okay.

But gangs do have colors. Oh, wow. Some gangs do have colors, wow certain gangs do rep colours you know from what I can remember you know as I said the game changes with time

but for example I don't know how if yous are familiar with Giggs for example Giggs the rapper yeah so when he would come through he would

like his area used to rep the black bandanas but that was just their colour that they would rep that rapper that's in the show Diggity

his team rep blue. Okay. And other gangs rep red. But it was just growing up, your gang would have a color. Okay. Like your bandana would be a color to rep Huzot's gang,

like you would come out. It's not as deep as Crips and Blards. It wasn't that. It wasn't even, I don't even think, it wasn't intentionally inspired by that, but it is, gangs do rep colors in London.

And they do it a lot in the Caribbean too. And I've been to been to like, hey yeah they red and blue and they're not Bloods or Crips but they different parts have different flags. But you know when I originally started doing it yeah I've done a movie before called Blue Story. Come on chill I got that in my notes. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. What it is yeah the two gangs was going at it and I remember the exec was like we just couldn't tell who was who like we just couldn't tell who was who we just couldn't tell who was who they just didn't get it who was who they just didn't know who the baddies were they just saw a group of black guys roughing at each other so then we had to put

colors so it was like for the audience oh the blue guys the guys the bad guys and the red guys so we started doing like that but the fact is it is the young a younger lot from what I can recall things change all the time in the streets. I'm not a kid no more. But the college is very prominent. So I'm bouncing around a little bit. I was watching on YouTube and there was this guy on the street.

He was interviewing this other guy on the street and he goes, do you wear your watch in London? And he said, no. He said, why not? You have insurance. And the guy said, I don't have insurance for my arm London's London is not the place man wait a minute good thing you hear this now

he literally said that people come up and they'll chop your head with a machete with a machete for your watch is it that bad People will do what they need to to get their watches off your wrist. Wow. I'll give it that. It's not a joke. I think a lot of people lose a lot for their watches these days.

So if you're not going somewhere where I feel like you can't protect it, it's just not worth the grief. I've seen videos where you just go to the restaurant with your woman, with your watch on. They will wait for you to come out, follow you home, and then rip off your arm for their watch on They will wait for you To come out Follow you home

And then rip off your arm For their watch And the waiter is down with it too Right? Or something like that I've seen that I've seen the same thing That you've seen

I don't know if that's common knowledge But that's it I heard it That's how they knew So what the waiter does A waiter who's formerly From the street Call the people

Say someone's just come in With this AP You know Blue dress Black blazer And then they wait for you to come out, they follow you home,

and then they get you at your doorstep. It's crazy though, what's crime in the UK? They said it's number one in London, they said it's number one. Yeah, that makes sense.

I can very much believe that. And then you know what fucked up was number two? Yeah. I know we go off the subject, but you know what's fucked up that's number two that I recently just read

What's that? Cans France Cans? I've seen that recently though Cans! Cans! I didn't know that I've seen that recently

They said But they're not violent, though. They come up to you with pepper spray. Oh, yeah. And you go like this. And then you're with them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm still trying to keep my word, you know.

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It's really, really, really bad. Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So I'm bouncing around, but let's go back to the series. So another fun character was Sabrina. They got Nadine. Okay. She called a man cheating. Yeah.

And she didn't kill him. She has the powers. I was starting to think, I said, you know how many other women in the hood would have took full advantage?

Bro, we played it in LA, yeah? For the LA's premiere. Everyone in the crowd. The girls like, mm in L.A., yeah? For the L.A.'s premiere. Everyone in the crowd, the girls like, mm, you game, girl. They was going crazy. They loved that. Every time we played,

I told Ujian, the women in the crowd go crazy. They go crazy. They love it. You know, they wanted her to kill him. And she's a good girl. Yeah.

She didn't know she had the powers at that point. Right, right. I love the fact, and I'm not blowing it up, but I want everybody to go see this because if you haven't seen it, the powers at that point. Right, right. I love the fact, and I'm not blowing it up, but I want everybody to go see this, because if you haven't seen it, you have to see it. And if you saw it, watch it again,

because I had to watch it again. What Nori said. To catch certain things, and then I had to watch again. And then the only messed up part is I was running around. Hey, bruv. Yeah, as soon as I walked in, he was saying that. Hey, bruv, hey, bruv. Yeah, as soon as I walked in, he was saying that. I was like, hey, bruv, hey, bruv. I swore.

Everybody does that. Everybody goes into their English accent once they've started watching Superstar. Everybody. So it's not just me. Everyone.

Everyone. Everyone's doing it. But, all right. So like I said, everyone should watch it. But one of my favorite things, and I touched on it earlier, is how they start to get their superpowers. Because remember, for those that didn't see it, they're all trying to use it.

They all find out that they got it, and then they try to use it, and then they can't. Yeah, when they really need it, it doesn't really work. Yeah. They haven't mastered it. Yeah, it doesn't really work. Yeah. They haven't mastered it. Yeah. It takes a minute. It kind of reminded me of black people in our situation.

Sometimes we react better when we're stressed. I feel like when our back's against the wall, that's when we show up. Yeah. For sure. So that's what I started to think. I started to look at that. I was like,

is that what's happening? There's a lot of subliminal messages inside there you know like when i do right i always write with i might not turn up when i need to on time but when you need me i'm going to be there so that's how the pad was kind of came up come about sometimes where even though it comes through times of stress when they really need it it should be there but then again not always because you've seen it to the end right yeah i've seen that so you already know it doesn't but it is these there's so many subliminal messages inside there that is there to uplift the community and just to really speak on the human beings especially the black community yeah yeah yeah and you know what i would love to? The wardrobe. Oh, the dresses.

Like, everyone, everybody I looked, everybody I saw looked exactly like how I thought that they would look. Even down to the guys that, you know, the snatchers. Like, they shit was baggy. I'm talking about the hoodie guys. Like, they shit was baggy. They shit was, like, it was, like, fly.

Like, I was like, that's exactly how it is. My question, Janelle, is going to be happy with that compliment, so big up Laurence. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I'm telling you. No, I'm telling you. Like how it is My question is I was going to be happy With that compliment So big up Lauren Oh yeah yeah No I'm telling you No I'm telling you Like it looked like And like you would think

Like What's it called Sky What's it called High five Sky five Which one I'm talking about

What is the genre Oh sci-fi Sci-fi yeah So you would think sci-fi Like you were speaking on earlier You would think sci-fi To put on some like Some digital shit

Or something like that And it's like It looks like right now We tried to ground it That's what The whole point of the show Was like We wanted everything to be like

If London got powers now Right This is what it looks like Like relatable So we wanted it to be like Whatever you're wearing This is what you would wear So we were trying to do everything.

Honestly, I feel like that's the realest version of what London's like. Minus the powers, obviously. But when I look at that, the parties, the music, the energy on the streets, I just look at that and I feel like that is just London. So I wanted to keep that as much as possible and put these powers on top and see if it would still work. So when did when did london shift right because at one point i remember us coming to the u.s coming from the

u.s excuse me and we would go to london it would be cool it would no one would worry about nothing there's no like i wouldn't say there was no crime but i don't know man i don't say you won't remember yeah but you came london years ago i don't know if you came but you probably didn't go into the hoods either but he came to an event it was called the Urban Music Seminar

it was so many it might be 20 years ago it was so long ago a man that was from my generation will remember this because you came you done talked

and bare man came to see you but everyone from everywhere north south east and west all the hoods you came for one of the days but it turned into like

a battle rail bloodbath in that place because every single gang basically collided. Oh, shit. It was a big... Takes a lot, doesn't it? But yeah, so...

You won't remember it. Remember, you're like... We liked you, innit? You wouldn't see that. You know what? That's probably what it is. I felt protected. I felt like...

Bro, you was like... Nooyega was... Bro, Nooyega was in London, bro. We. You know what? That's probably what it is. I felt protected. I felt like... Yeah, bro, you was like... Nooyega was... Bro, Nooyega was in London, bro. We was like, what? But we all went down there to see that. And we showed you love. Yes, yes. The minute you left...

It went crazy. You saw... It turned into... Because... It was. London's always been violent, bro. I agree with you. It could have been...

I believe it was violent back then. But it was so Much structured It wasn't Do you think It's the What is it Drill music

I mean that's part of it Do you think it's the Introduction of drill music Nah I think It's just social media too Bro social media The cameras Them days when you were there

Like say if I had A camera phone there I would be showing you Footage of me meeting you But I didn't have that then We didn't have phones You're just Seeing it now But London's always been And to be honest london's a bit worse

it's a bit it used to be a bit worse them days because there's automatic gun laws now where if you get found with a gun you get automatic five years ah it wasn't like that back in the day back in the day you could get do a year for a gun so a lot of men were taking that risk right um it's not now it's automatic five years so you people are less willing to carry a gun so a lot of men were taking that risk right it's not now it's all 95 years so you people are less willing to carry a gun

and they're ready to pick up a knife but when you was coming those times trust me man it was still remember but you didn't see Top Boy on the screen

so your friend was still eating crumpets and drinking tea unless he saw it for a second he wouldn't know it existed so you're not knowing that that's why I say

Top Boy helped because you're not knowing that. You're not thinking, everyone's thinking, you know, we're just Queens English. But it was always, London's always been London, man. Yeah. I went to London one time. Big up, we called him the Madden Dem, right? And he. You called him the Madden Dem.

The Madden Dem. I don't know if he wants me to blow up his name. But so I'm in London. I'm performing. And Tim Westwood is not a part of the show, but he came to the show. And guys came and gave me a bag of weed like this big. And everyone came up to me, hey, you're a drug dealing man. I was like, no.

Because I had so much weed. I had never seen nobody from like New York have so much weed because, you know, you're going home the next couple of days. I smoked all that shit. Oh, yes, I did. Oh, yes, I did. I believe it. So, um, bouncing around a little bit, the food culture in London, and you got a mix

of, you know, African soul. You got even a little bit of Latino out there. You got a little bit of everything. Like, what is your favorite London dish? A London dish? Yes, London dish. I more prefer the African dishes because I'm African. But if I was to take out my own food,

but I've been eating African food since I was a kid, I'd probably get the Caribbean food. So if I'm not eating jollof rice or goosey soup and ground rice, I would probably get rice and peas and oxtail okay so that was the moment just now that's what i'm that's what i'm eating but london we've got we've got a mix of everything though okay that's what i'm saying yeah we are it's very much like new i always i just come back from new york and i'm always just like it's so similar you know everything the vibe everything so yeah i think london my favorite

food is always the applero and the Caribbean. But you got everything, man. What's the one that, I think the bread, and you're dipping in the rice, and you go like that. Bread and rice. Isn't that Ethiopian, though? That's a Ghanaian dish. Oh, that's all, okay. But it's not bread.

It's not bread? It's not bread. It's like, it's hard to call it, man. It's like a grounded rice like It's like a grounded rice It's like a grounded rice It's like a Almost like tortilla Almost

It's kind of It's like So you threw me off With putting bread Bread into rice But it's like It's just It's African culture food

Yeah I like where everybody Eat it but Michael Black Because some isn't Michael Black's When he eat it I'm like He's like

That's how you know He's in jail That's how you know You've got a good dish If'm like He's like That's how you know He's enjoying it That's how you know You've got a good taste If you're doing it like that That's how you know It's not meant to be It's not meant to be clean

It's meant to be amazing You're meant to be enjoying man Okay Let's talk about Shower Story Shower Story I'll be like Shower Story That was your first

That's what cut me through Yeah Okay So that day was That was five years Into my journey On YouTube Trying to make something for myself. So I was uploading from 2013, loads of different like musically narrated shoots like that.

And every time I uploaded one with a story, I got more attention, you know? And every time I uploaded just regular music, it got less attention, which is cool. Doing it for years and years and years and it's kind of getting to the point where it's costing me more than it's bringing me you know so i remember getting to the point now it's been five years when i say five years i'm very much like not doing done a little bit in january and a little bit in december i'm uploading like 10 times a year so i've got signed for valentine's day I've got signed for the summer I've got signed for Uber

and it's costing you know because you've got to pay for it you've got to shoot it you've got to upload on the channel you've got to pay

an upload fee and I'm always thinking you know what you've got to pay an upload fee for YouTube if you were to go like okay

say like the World Style Hip Hop when I was trying to get signed on there they tell you how much money so that went to one of the platforms and you want to get on the biggest platform so your people

can get seen i get what you're saying okay so i remember it coming now it's like fifth year into the journey and it's like you're getting people that know you well like bro is it time to to hang it up bro like you've tried man i was like I know my I know my thing's different bro I know my thing's like My thing's unique though And they're like Yeah but bro It's been five years bro

You know what The man doesn't even want to Turn on to the video shoots no more It's like bro We've been coming to videos for years You gotta go to work I'm just like So I remember saying to myself

I've got this Sharo story thing I've had it on YouTube No on Spotify From 2017 No one knew Because I didn't get A lot of streams But people that

Listen to it The audio Everyone that listened to it People that didn't really Talk to me really well Would always message me So I heard that thing On Spotify

It's really good I was like maybe just On my last hurrah I'm just going to do A visual to this As my final goodbye Because I love the storytelling I love storytelling I love the storytelling

I love the genre yeah so I was like let me just do my last one then go figure out some sort of job man and then I put it out and it blew up

like it was crazy like just I don't know we got like a part one got a million views in like 10 days and then before then

I never had a million views part two got like a million views in four days and part three got a million views in five hours and it then before then I never had a million views part two got like a million views in four days and part three got a million views in five hours and it was viral

then I got calls from Jay-Z and James Samuel and everyone's calling me and everyone did Ty Ty Ty Ty threw that from Shower Story

from Shower Story so um and uh so yeah so basically once that came through the door Shower Story

everybody came and what worked what worked in my favor was there was a massive show in Britain at the time called The Bodyguard, the BBC's biggest show for ages, and it was their finale. And you went against them? But I didn't know because I didn't watch The Bodyguard. You went against them and busted it? Yeah, yeah.

So when you come out and we're trending above the biggest show in the UK, I just had all the networks start to contact me. So TV production companies are hitting me up. Film production companies are hitting me up. Everyone's hitting me up.

Like, we want to work. We want to do this. We want to do that. We want to do this. And I was like, yo, I was in the game. I was like, without trying to get into the game,

the game kind of came to me and I got through. Yeah, man. So, by the way, congratulations. Thank you. Well, man. So, by the way, congratulations. Thank you. Well, you said James Samuel earlier, my man. Big up my boy James.

Steel's brother, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you remember the first time meeting James? Bro, I was with my boy over there, yeah. Okay, okay. We were on a high

off a shower today. We're doing all these radio interviews. We're getting back and forth and then I got an email from a guy called Jamal Edwards man he passed away

not too long ago but a really lovely guy started a channel called SBTV which is where a lot of us started so he's emailed me he said James Samuel

and Jay-Z are trying to reach you I didn't know who James Samuel was but I saw Jay-Z I was like bro this is lies bro this is like

cat I wasn't even paying attention to it so I just sent the quickest email back yeah yeah give them, I wasn't even paying attention to it. I just sent the quickest email back, yeah, yeah, give them my number. I didn't even pay attention to it.

There was a big billboard of Shirewell's story in my neighborhood, like where I used to hang out. So we went down there just to take a picture next to it. So I got a FaceTime call

from James Samuel. Bro, this brother's energy was crazy. People talk about my energy, yeah? But his energy, people say, what's good, black guy? Girl, did I?

Oh, no. Black guy. Girl, girl. Bro, I'm not. He said, bro. I'm sorry. Did I not tell you? I'm black, bro. I'm so sorry.

He's such, he's like, what's good, black guy? I've seen your work. And we want to work with you. Meay-z tata i'm just like bro who are you bro i'm like yo i appreciate the compliment man what's good because i'm not gonna sell you on who i am but just know you the phrase black brother before this time. So he's just gotten off. And I'm like, okay. I'm just taking the confidence. Okay, bro.

Appreciate that. He goes, oh, can I call you next week? I said, yeah, bro. You got my number, man. You can call me whenever you want, man. And he goes, you know, and me and Jay-Z are saying, I said, bro, you don't have to keep on saying Jay-Z, bro. I just appreciate that you called me.

I just didn't even believe. You know what? To me, Jay-Z is a guy that lives over there we live in London bro it doesn't even work so I was like I'm going to call you in one week

after the phone I signed him bro yeah have a good time man speak to you soon I don't know but every time I think about that I don't know man

it was just weird the energy was crazy but then I remember like about 10 days later I'm putting my daughter to bed now and he's called and I'm just like

ah bro this is that crazy brother with the black one guy so I was like okay I said one second I said to my little girl chill

I said yo bro I'm just putting my little one to bed and he goes wait wait black guy speak to my friend first I'm just like bro

yo and it's and bro yo and it's and it's and it's home bro I'm not wrong this guy's a dick but I'm sorry it was dope

but you know what's funny though James is like one of my closest friends now no alright that's fine and obviously through James he's introduced me to Ty

and James and Ty are like my proper like they're my actual friends you know if they was here now they'd be sitting beside of me but it was crazy

at the time he was just this mad guy with mad energy remember this is before Harder They Fool before Booker Clarence so I've never heard of him right

he didn't he doesn't come in the phone and say I'm he's just a guy with a mad energy that he's basically telling you congratulations

you've met me right now let's win I'm like so that's his energy bro like james's energy is so so positive like he and honestly since he's come into my life it has only been win upon win because we move as a collective right so even with this he's like yo we need to go and drink who do we call to get together? He's like, nah, but you need to go. So that's how we move as a collective now,

but that's the energy he came with when I met him. You got to tell your story. Listen, listen. I'm just becoming a member of Soul House. Jump out. No, no, no, it's about back there. Back there, I'm just becoming a member of Soul House. There's nothing but white people around.

For real. I walk to the bathroom. This is Soul House, though. This is Soul House, the one where Bo was downstairs. In L.A.? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm walking through. It's a very quiet Sunday evening.

He's walking by me. He stops and he goes, The Black guy knows! I'm like, calm down, whoever you are! Like, wait a minute! I see all the white people's faces saying, why didn't he just call him the black guy? And I'm like,

hold up! And he's like, hey, man. And I'm looking and he starts dropping names to me. He says, J name or whatever. So I'm like, I kind of names to me he says Jake name or whatever so I'm like I kind of just text Biggs I was like yo

this is a weird guy standing in front of me with braids and he was like he's damn near like Hov's best friend be nice to him

I said yes I am the black guy but Jake if you know the thing about Jake he sees everything he says he is and he doesn't drop names because he knows

Dave people are confidence to him as well. And he's confidence to them. So he's that guy, though. No, no, he was just telling me because he was like, yo, I just told Jay I'm putting you in a movie. And I'm looking, and I'm like, this shit is too good to be true. So I finally just texted Biggs and was like,

this is just... Trust me, that's the same as you, bro. It's like, we're going to do this in the meeting. James is that guy, man. So let me ask you, because we heard this famous story about Netflix coming to see you and you running up the bill.

Yeah, yeah. And that food good, man. Yeah? Yeah. You remember what you ate? Oh, man. It was some mad dumplings was It was some mad dumplings It was some prawn dumplings

Money bags If anyone's gone to Novikov You know what I'm talking about man Novikov? Oh okay You ain't had the truffle Pravla Well I was ordering everything

I must have had that as well Okay Everyone expected on that menu I was making them order Because I ain't got shame For things like that Right right If you're going to take me to dinner

You're going to take me to dinner you're going to take me to dinner bro I'm going to eat today you know what I'm saying so um yeah hold on y'all

it's 444 I just want everybody to know 444 so I remember there was so I tried to do a deal with Netflix

in 2018 this is before my movie came out after Shire of Story they didn't like the show I had you know it just wasn't for them.

And they had some sort of deal where it's like, you can still pitch ideas to us and we see what we like. I was like, I'm not really trying to be a pitch pony, but I'm sure we'll reconnect,

you know, if it's meant to be. So my movie that was coming out, Blue Story, the promo for it in the UK was crazy. You couldn't go nowhere

and not see it. Buses, underground, billboards, radio, TV. And is it still independent with this Blue Story?boards, radio, TV. And this is still, you're independent with this blue story? Yeah, yeah, still independent. Go ahead. So they've reached out,

like, you know, can we go to dinner? And I'm like, okay, they've seen all the press because the press was everywhere, you know, and we don't get a lot of all black cast movies.

They come around like once every six, seven years in the UK. So when it comes, it's a big deal. But let me ask you, and I want you to get right back to that,

but how did you get that funding for them to see that, the billboards and things like that oh oh no i say i was independent but it wasn't so after shower story okay when i told you everyone came i was like yo i got this thing i made earlier two years before shower story i wrote this movie i wrote blue story and it just sat on my laptop for years i'm hoping one day i'll make enough money. I'm going to save my money and I'm going to make it. So it just sat there. So when everybody came, like, we want to do this, I was like, yo, if you want to do this movie I've got,

because I didn't write that for nothing, then we can make that. And so that's how that got made. So it wasn't independent. I was independent, but the movie was made by Paramount. It was an independent movie, but Paramount paid for the distribution, so they were pushing it everywhere.

So yeah, so they basically saw the hype, you know, you know i was like yo do you want to go to dinner and i was like cool let's go to dinner man right where do you want to go so any and they made it clear you're our treat so i was like yo i've been hearing he's like i'm going with it and nothing because so we went love i went novicoov And You know when they expect you To come in And just be modest Like what you want No just some water

I was like so I'm gonna get that cocktail I'm gonna get that I'm gonna get this I'm gonna get that And I just ran up Bare food But they're cool

They're Netflix They got it like that So um I'm just yamming off the food man Like just yamming it off But I think I was yamming it so much They had to

Sneak the words Wait Have you got anything That you feel like Would be good for us the food, man. Like, just yamming it off. But I think I was yamming it so much they had to sneak their words out. Wait, have you got anything that you feel like would be good for us? And I didn't know it was a pitch meeting. I thought we'd just, you know, get to know each other in general. In general, in general. But it wasn't in general.

They wanted to know what I had. And that top boy came out yet? Top boy was coming out in a month. Okay. Top boy was coming out in a month. Okay. So, yeah, I'm just yamming this food. And they said, what's this idea?

Have you got an idea? I gave them my idea. They didn't like it. That's the cause. Anything else? I said, okay. Gave some other idea. I can't even remember what that one was.

They didn't like that. And I think they started to feel like this money, what food was wasted there right now, because they wasn't getting nothing back. But they said, have you back. But, they said, you got anything for us? I said, okay,

I'm not going to be able to eat in peace until I do something. So, food, still digesting the food in my mouth now and I'm just like, look, I've got this idea

it's about people from where I'm from and they got powers, you know, but they're not doing superhero stuff. They're doing normal stuff like what they would be doing the day before they had powers. Right.

Just normal people doing normal things and I'm rambling on because they're not saying stuff like what they would be doing the day before they had powers just normal people doing normal things and I'm rambling on because they're not saying nothing whereas before they were interrupting saying what else

what happened but I'm looking at them and it was like cha-ching it's like they saw that that was the one and that's kind of testament to them

they're very sharp in what they know will connect so that was that boom because I thought the other two ideas I was giving were good

but obviously they didn't think so but um so yeah from then on it was like can we talk about this now I said yo my movie drops

in like three weeks I just I just want to see what that does first let me see what that does and then so my blue story yeah

then holler at me afterwards and they waited they waited for the movie to come out and then two three weeks afterwards they came back like yo we've circled the block now

like what's good? So, yeah. All right. God damn, it's a good thing. Well, our show is about

giving people their flowers while they're alive and we want to give you your flowers face to face, man to man. Oh, thank you.

Hey, yo. You know what? This is dope. You know what? I was like, can I go and drink I was like Can I go Can I go and drink chaps

Can I go and drink And the reason was like Why drink chaps I said other than the fact It's fire It's a fire show It's always uplifting the guests That's right

It's a sabotage It's not sneak sabotage It's just like Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap

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Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap I'm like, yeah, I'm back, yeah. So I'm like, yeah. So big dissap. This is dope. This is the guy in my cabinet in my yard like, yo. So another thing we went through, we went through your music. You know, I went deep.

But your music is so fire, right? But I could also hear the Ice Cube in you, meaning writing scripts. Yeah. That's where Cube transitioned. That's where Cube transitioned so dope because he was always, you know, like,

today was a good day and all of that. So when he went on to do Friday, I wasn't shocked because you can see a story, I see a natural storyteller

is a natural storyteller. Like, Q can do it over a beat, he can do it in a script and it's similar with me. I can do it over a beat, I can do it in a script. When it's in you,

you, it's just a story so Cube probably never had a chance to really tell his stories probably because you've only got a certain

amount of time on a song that's why when he got into his writing bag it was just like he's giving us the classic of all classics and I just feel like natural storytellers

you just want to tell a bigger story then you want to tell a bigger story I'm surprised Cube ain't got a TV show yet it's probably coming but I'm a big Cube fan.

As I was all the storytellers of that generation. So. Yeah, I love that you claim the B-sides of people's records. Like the records that no one does a video to. But those were the illest ones, bro, for me. Those were the ones that, obviously the label's putting out the songs that's going to sell, but as a fan,

you want to, I visualise what that character looks like. Bro, come on, give me the me the loot that video was big bro and big beginning a little biggie going on these capers trying to rock the board i always imagine i i'm literally i could redo that video now and have my how about nas gave you um power about the gun bro no but my favorite now story turns on his undying love you know when he goes The whole story It's on I Am And he ends up Killing himself And his girlfriend At the end

Bro that story Goes so deep When he figures out She's cheating So all of these stories I was like bro Give me one Like Ice Cube Summer Vacation

I always said That would be an ill movie But they never do it And I get it Because you're trying To sell records right But for me I was just like bro

I'm giving everybody, there must be someone out here like me who wants to see the visuals to these ill stories. So that was literally my lane. It wasn't trying to infiltrate film and TV.

It was going to be, I'm going to tell people, show people in my neighborhood all these stories because I didn't know nobody out of my neighborhood. Okay. So I was known where I was from,

but then it just started growing. You know what I'm saying? God comes down and asks you, I want you to do one video with one artist. Tupac. Fat. I ain't even had to ask that. See what I'm saying? See what I'm saying?

Okay. Now, is it a record that's already made or is it a record that you want him to go in and make? KJR's Unclosed Caskets that he done with the Outlaws. Wow. Yeah. I don't know if he's that good. Very specific. Only real Tupac is going to record that you want him to go and make? Tear Drops and Clothes Caskets that he done with the Outlaws. Wow. Yeah. I don't know if he's got that. Very specific. Only real Tupac

is going to know that one by that. That tune is deep. You know about Tear Drops and Clothes Caskets? Tear Drops and Clothes Caskets, he talks about two friends who love the same girl

and they end up in a massive shootout and end up killing each other. And he does it, he done it with the Outlaws as well, but it's a big tune, man. Right.

That's a big tune man that's a big tune I'll do it to that song okay I don't know if I'm pronouncing this right Shiro's story Shiro Shiro's story

let's talk about that you know you done that already you know oh no let's go again you want to go again yeah yeah I suppose

what do you want me to say about it though in the sense of where did it come from or what yeah because how do you come up with these stories? Because one thing I've noticed is everything is named story.

Yeah, the first two were. Okay. And that was mainly because of, I don't know, just growing up, I just wanted it to be clear that this is a story. I kind of always wanted to have what was on the tin. So it was like, this is a story, son. Okay. But yeah, I just remember I was actually in the studio

recording just a typical song. And then Link Up TV, which is a story, son. Okay. But yeah, I just remember I was actually in the studio recording just a typical song. And then Link Up TV, which is a platform in the UK, you know, where people upload video. Pretty big platform, big up the sheet. They've called me up. I think it's one of his partners, Joey, called me up and says, yo, we're putting a confirmation album together

and we want a song from you. I'm like, right, they want a song from me. He goes, yeah, we want a story song. They always make it clear because that's what they like from you. We want a story song from you. I'm like, right, they want a song from me. He goes, yeah, we want a story song. They always make it clear because that's what they like from you. We want a story song from you. I'm like, what type of story song? I don't know.

As long as it's a story song from you, we'll be happy with it. I remember thinking, okay, what story song do I need? Because I've done loads of story songs up to now. And there was two guys in my area,

rumors going around that two best friends and one of them found out that his daughter, his best friend was actually the father. I remember like, yo, what what happened when he found out? Everyone's like, I don't know.

So did he know that it was good? No one had any questions. So see, when I've got questions, I just make up my answers in the story. So I was like, you know, I'm going to tell a story about two guys, similar situation, and I'm going to put my outcome. You're filling in the blanks. Yeah, I'm filling my own blanks. That's what a storyteller does.

And it just went like that. so that's how he came about but honestly that thing there that changed everything at the time where I was about to chuck it all in so thank God for shadow story goddamn it makes a noise for that good yeah yes I'm in I'm in You got it? So QuickTime with Slime is sponsored by Stress Nuts We're getting about the stress nuts You know what I mean? We do this

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or the political, I mean, the political correct answer would be we all drink. All right. What are we drinking though? Your choice. Your choice of drink.

Your choice of drinking. It's not going crazy. You don't have to go crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's a long list. And then any stories you got with any of the people that we mentioned,

please. Okay. By all means, you know. I'll go with Tata's story. Okay. And then any stories you got with any of the people that we mentioned, please. Okay. By all means, you know. I've got a good Tata story. Okay. Yeah, you're going to go? Yeah. Ready?

Nah, mix that with coke. I'm going to let it work, please. Before I'm over here getting crazy. Yeah. Off rip. Tupac or DMX? Oh, Tupac. But that's not, that's not easy choice. Yeah. Off rip, Tupac or DMX? Oh, Tupac, but that's not an easy choice.

Okay. But you want to tell us why? Or any stories with either of them? Bro, do you know DMX? I loved DMX for like a long time in the sense of he was my, when I was in school, he was my favorite rapper. I used to go to talent shows and perform his songs. And I just loved his whole music

I loved his whole style I loved all and he you know they had the whole Damien out of their stories I was a massive DMX fan I loved it when the Rough Riders were brought in

it was just he was after Tupac he was the person that kind of took me so it was just a shame I never got a chance

to ever meet him or go to any of his concerts. Right. So, yeah. So you were going to Pac? But I had to go with Pac because Pac was the first journey where I believed in him, not just the music. You know, like he was political.

I feel like he stood for something. Right. You know, like Brenda's Got a Baby was political at the same time. You know, things like that. He would talk about things trying to change the world, even changes. Put himself at risk? Yeah, put himself at risk. If you listen to songs that change, it's like,

we ain't ready to see a black president. And at the time, we probably wasn't. You know, but he was talking. I was a Tupac fan of the person as well as the artist. And not a lot of people. I don't feel like a lot of artists do that anymore, where I care about them outside of their music. I'm sorry, because you just made me think of this um what is brexit

i don't want to sit here and give them the wrong answer because i don't i don't know what it's kind of an easy way to explain to layman's i think i'm gonna let you say i mean honestly i'm not even trying to get embarrassed because to this day we left it and i don't see what happened oh i don't know yes so we left the eu yeah so we left the euro so remember your own pound yeah yeah yeah no we always had our own power we never was a part of europe um but i think what it was coming to where we had to join okay and whoever the powers that be decided no so you're gonna join again yeah it's whoever the powers that be decided no. So you had to join again. The European Union.

Yeah, it's better. The UK is better separately. And I don't know if it was or wasn't. You'd have to ask someone more into politics. But we left the EU. So there was a point now where the British possible, I'm going to Spain,

I'm going to Italy. Everything was fine. Now it's a bit more of like, it's a separate rule. It was like no borders almost. Yeah, it was all one. The European Union was like, oh, one big thing. There was like no borders almost. Yeah, it was all one. The European Union was like all one big thing. There's certain trade deals that was happening with the UK and England that we came out of,

but that's all above my pay grade. But I don't know to this day what the benefit was. So that's a very random question you're giving me. And I've explained it. And that's as far as I can go. Because it seems like it's gone back and forth. Someone said it's looking like we might go back

I actually don't know but I'm not big on the politics so I'm not even going to sit here and pretend that's why I didn't know what Brexit was

that's crazy he thought it was brunch at Denny's that is the most random question good job good job the American West

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in the email. That's hard as fuck. Okay, NWA or Wu-Tang Clan?u-tang wu-tang only i became more of a lover for nwa when the movie came out i knew of them before but my older brother was big on wu-tang so i was a i was a massive method man fan um i love what rizzo was doing I love Ghost All I got is you by Ghostface It's like my favourite song for like forever So Wu-Tang to me was just like

It's just, yeah, they were everything Okay, gigs or Skepta? I like them both I gotta go with the homie gigs, man Oh, you went with somebody No, no, no, I love them both though But gigs is my guy, innit And gigs to me Started that gangster shit in the UK Oh, you went with somebody. I thought she was going to... No, no, no. I love them both, though. But Giggs is my guy, innit?

And Giggs, to me, started that gangster shit in the UK. In the UK. Him and SN1. Like, they got it cracking. Not to say there weren't people doing it before, but they made a shift where the UK gangster rap scene became prominent. So you're saying Giggs is the godfather of drill music?

Not drill, no, no. I feel like... I've said it before, but you see what N.W. NWA done for rap, gangster rap? That's what SN1 and gigs done for UK rap. Where does SAS place in that? Oh shit, big up SAS.

SAS was an old school, yeah. They were the first guys I heard from the UK. And they were starting to rock a fellow too. Yeah, yeah, they were. But I think you know what it was, not taking nothing away from them, but they were They were dope But I think you know What it was yeah Not taking nothing Away from them but They were still An American twang in there So even though

They rapped in our In our accent There was an American Twang in there That was like We could relate But not as much As when we started

Fully rapping In our accent Fully And talking about Our areas Which is indicative What do you mean When you say twang?

They were emulating. Oh, you're trying to say it. Okay, I get what you're saying. That's indicative of the era because that's what was happening in the U.S. The South was sounding like New York. It's kind of like when French Montana signed to the South.

You lost me there. Remember, he signed to Miss Debbie, Waka Flaka's mom So I don't know If he changed his style Nah but what I'm thinking Is from the era That they come from

New York is the mecca Of hip hop So everyone is emulating The place where Everything's coming from And they were dope There was nothing To take away from them

They were super dope But for example When the next generation Came through We wasn't even trying to be nothing like the US we're coming out

talking about our high streets our people our clothing things that you'd be like what's that what's clackerjacks

it didn't matter because it was just for us and that's when things started changing where you start bigging up your friends in your songs so you don't know

you don't know my friend Rem but I'm on the I'm rapping in the song me and Rem walk down the hall and it's like who's Rem bro we didn't care

because it wasn't for you so if you know me and you know my boy Rem this is what it is and I feel like that's what the gigs and SN1 era started

that's what they began and so that's why but SNSA was dope as I said I feel like a lot of people have to walk before someone can run. But the big changes, I'm just talking about the changes where the scene really became its own was when people like Giggs and that came through. Right.

Another random question. Why do y'all call your sneakers trainers? Why do you call your trainers sneakers? Oh, damn. What came first, the sneaker or the trainers? There you go, bro. For me damn. Well, first the sneaker or the trainers. There you go, bro. For me, it's like,

I don't understand the sneakers part. At least with trainers. We could train in them. We could train in them. That makes no sense. That makes no sense. Tell me now,

what sneakers? You sneaking up on somebody in them? I'm saying, uh-huh. I'm saying, there you go, bro. There you go.

Yeah, it's, I never knew what it called Sneakers is a hip hop You know what Jimmy I need my answer though Google it Google what sneakers mean Yeah cause that He fucked me up He threw it back on me

Okay The harder they fall Or the book of clarity Take a drink He's doing back on me Okay The Harder They Fall Or The Book of Clarin Oh Take a drink Nah nah bro I'm gonna fence it you know I'm gonna go with

The Harder They Fall Okay well I love them both But like The Harder They Fall It just It And I'm a big

I'm a big believer in Like I'm a big on God Yeah yeah So I love the movie One is God And one is like Western film You see when I just You see when I just,

you see the opening scene of How Did They Fall and everyone starts getting smoked? Right. That just took me, bro. I was like, yeah, this is crazy, bro. So that to me, that's my movie. Black Cowboys was out there. Yeah, that was fire.

So what is it? It's made with originally the first about quiet, but the souls were on the ground. It contrasted the noisy, or the unsoulful Precious Okay Well there you go

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It was Okay my bad Okay I'm bugging Central C or Digger D? Digger D. I think Central C's doing amazing things. I'm a big fan of what he's achieved. But Digger D's my guy, man.

You know what I'm saying? I'm very much Digger's in my show. That's my cast member. My cast is like my kids. So yeah, big up Digger. But I love them. I think they're both great. All right.

New Jack City or King of New York? New Jack City. New Jack City to me was, I still, you referenced it. Like I'm writing a movie right now and I'm using New Jack City as a big reference because see the way Wesley played Nino Brown. Right.

It was just a game changer. He's coming into the club and he's dancing, but then he's killing you. Like he wasn't, you know, the whole gangster thing. You have to be cool when you have to be nah nino brown was that guy so yeah new jackson for me okay top boy shutters top boy somewhere i like your london this yeah that's how you do it boris some way yeah like this not like that what did he way, yeah. Like this, not like that. What did he do? No, no, he be like this.

Like that. Because I don't know how to pronounce these names. Idris Elba or Damson Idris. They're both my guys. But let's go with the originator who started it first, and that's got to be Idris. Yes. I mean yeah

But that was my boy Let me just tell you something When he got done doing The Wire And I heard him talk I was like what the fuck Yeah I know I didn't We didn't even know he was

We didn't I can't talk for everybody Okay But a lot of people that I know Didn't know Idris Elba was British When we watched The Wire We did not know that was a British man Right we did not know that I was a British man. Right.

We did not know. He was from Baltimore in my mind. Bro, and he was like my favorite character. So when we found out that he was British, he was like,

I just don't think there would be a Damsen Idris that you would take seriously if it wasn't for Idris Elba. I respect that. You know what I'm saying? And Damsen will probably tell you the same.

We all look up to Idris as the big homie because of what he done for us. But I'm going to tell you something. It was like he held that accent until the wire was over. And then once the wire was over, he was like, I ain't fooled you. I don't think he did even do a lot of pressing it. And let's be honest.

I don't think we can do it good going that way. I think only the British actors can do it good. But I heard him say. It's coming, man. I heard him say. It's coming. It's changing. It is changing.

I kid you not. I kid you not I kid you not E When you go home tonight You're gonna watch this And you're gonna run around Hey bro I'm telling you

When I was watching Top Boy I heard him saying it I heard him saying it He said It starts out as a joke And then you start You start doing it Oh that's the way

Everything starts That's how it starts I'm telling you As long as shows like this keep on coming, that you keep on enjoying, keep on watching, five to 10 years, the actors from the US will be taking the UK jobs.

There's already a movie called Empire of Light out now, and it stars my friend Michael Ward in it. There's a girl that plays his girlfriend. She sounds as British as me. Come to find out she's as American as you guys. So it's starting to happen. It's starting to happen. So you think it's like a lack of it?

Yeah, you haven't heard enough of us. You still think we talk like we're in Downton Abbey. But when you start watching Top Boy and Supercell and all of these other shows, yeah, you'll start realising, wait a minute, I can replicate that voice a bit more and you can see the thing so you just haven't seen it it's normalized for us we've been watching you guys

remember listening to your music so we hear your voice watching your tv shows and your movies all we've been hearing is your voice in our ears or visually in our face since we've been born but that's that's we can do that makes sense that's what makes it so dope it's like what i was saying in the intro is like you know hip-hop went from you know east coast to the south not in this particular order right um you know west coast and then it went across the pond and this series complements the music that you guys are doing and the compliment's the whole scene on one hand it makes everyone say I want to go to London and then another hand it's like I gotta be careful when I get there. Because shit is real. You thought you was going to see Sherlock Holmes.

Hey, man. I was going to get him, man. I'm not in South London, you know, bro. There's a dude named Sherlock. Oh, come on, McCombs. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. So it's great.

It's great. All right, come on. Let's move on a little bit. Okay. Jay-Z or Nasty Nas oh my okay are we talking

now or are we talking before you might as well take a shot when you start answering like that you might as well when you start

answering that I'll take a shot on that because that to me that's a tough one that's a tough one okay okay but I've got mad love I've never met Nas okay I'll take a shot on that because that to me that's a tough one that's a tough one okay okay

but I got mad love I've never met Nas okay big fan massive fan hopefully one day I'll meet him Jay-Z's Jay

that's like my guy man I got mad love for him he's nothing but positive anytime I run into him yes he's had me in his home so Jay-Z's Jay-Z man

Jay-Z you know what I'm saying nah and he got your back man you know what I'm saying? Nah, and he got your back, man. You know what I mean? Me just understanding how they operate, how they move. Like, you know, for me to get a call,

you know what I mean? And like, I was just like, they got your back, bro. Already they called you. No, no, no, no. They got your back. What I'm trying to say is, they got your back.

And that's dope. I mean, you know what? To see Rockefeller unfold and keep continuing, I mean, Roc Nation, excuse me, because I was a part of Violator management. I remember back in the day. Legendary thing. And then after Violator disappeared, there was nothing to compliment that. And, you know, an artist such as yourself, you know,

sometimes you don't want to say, I'm the illest guy in the room. Sometimes you want somebody else to say that for you. You know what I'm saying? It makes you look even iller. And especially when that guy is supposed to be the,

for lack of a better term, the top dog, not the top boy, but the top dog. That shit just, it makes that room easier for you to navigate in. It does.

You know what I'm saying? So I congratulate you, my brother. No, I appreciate it. Thank you. I congratulate you. And your relationships, because that's a very good relationship to have. Yeah, they're my people, man. They're my people, so yeah.

Yeah, you want to do the next one? Why, you can't do it? I can't pronounce their last name. Jason Statham or Daniel? Yeah. Or Daniel Craig? Daniel Craig. Statham.

Jason Statham. Statham is my guess. Jadakiss or Big Daddy K? Jadakiss. Okay. Jadakiss was my guy growing up. Rockefeller or Rough Riders? You can take a drink.

I know. Let me drink drink Let me drink Let me drink You want the next one? Where we at? Tom Hardy or Daniel Day-Lewis Daniel Day-Lewis Snowfall or Power?

Snowfall Because of Damson No, not even Damson Damson, yeah You can't separate them Damson's bodies even Because of Damson Damson yeah You can't separate them Damson Snowfall was Damson bodied it

But Snowfall was actually Very Very well written It was It was very well written And Damson I think it was a bad season They had

Their first season It grew into what it was But the last two seasons No It was dope Like you start watching it Knowing that you know Damson. You're just watching it like, I just need to know what's going to happen here.

Hopefully you don't do me like my friend John Singleton did me. I said to him one time. I said to him one time. RIP John Singleton. He was a big inspiration to my journey as well. He lived down the block from me before he passed away. That's it. So we had him on Dream Champs.

Yeah. And I used to just work with him all the time, knowing that he wouldn't give me this role. And I would be like, yo, you got to put me on Snowfall. And he would look at me and say, you will never be on Snowfall. Your New York accent is too fucked up. He said, you could never play a West Coast guy. And I'm like, damn, bro.

But he could have made someone from New York come in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I was about to say, you could never play a West Coast guy. And I'm like, damn, bro. But he could have made someone from New York come in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He could have done it that way. That's what I was about to say, you know. And Supercell, too, you know. I mean. No, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean?

You just said that someone could come from New York. He got it. He got it. I mean, if we bring it to New York, New York brings it to Miami. Or New York, Miami. Miami. Or York New York brings it to Miami New York dude moves the bricks You know what I'm saying That happens more common

Than you would think Yeah Ties in London Right He's a New Yorker He sounds just like So it happens You know

Cause you know Remember The Wire They had nobody And then second season They had Fred's role They had such and such So let's think of rappers You think will fit in second season. I say Busta Rhymes.

How? And then if we take it to the States? No, no, no, no, no. Busta Rhymes, him playing Dada and Dada. Okay, yeah, I can see Busta playing Dada and Dada. He got the patois. Yeah, Busta could play that. I'd make him a villain. Yes, yes. He'll be patois. Yeah, Buster couldn't play that. I'd make him a villain.

Yes, yes. He'll be a villain. And I'm going to tell you what else you got down pat that was so unique to the island people that get together. You know what you was doing in the sound effects? With the kids on the team? That is so... Yeah, that's just our culture, man. That's That is so That is

Yeah that's just our culture man That's just Yo When you hit a man Oh he's disrespectful He is not a nice person When it's like Yeah yeah yeah

That's just power That's just how we talk And how we are Yeah yeah yeah Yeah yeah So you have to bring that in That's hilarious Go ahead

Give the next one Oh I'll take it. Boys in the Hood or Menace to Society? Oh, man. Drink? I'll get my shot. When I was younger,

it was Menace because I just was on the... You saw that first? No, I saw them. I saw... I think I saw Boys in the Hood first. I mean, that's the first one

that came to mind. When I was younger, I wasn't here for politics and lessons. I just want to see the smoke. So when I saw Boys in the Hood first I mean that's the first one that came to mind when I was younger I wasn't here for politics and lessons I just want to see the smoke so when I was so Menace to Society to me was the illest movie

in history but then when I got older and I watched Boys in the Hood I'm there with Lawrence Fishburne I'm hearing his knowledge and I'm respecting

what he's doing and I respect the layers in the movie so a younger man is a thing of the older so if I had to choose now so if you alright

I'm just going to have to drink just drink okay I'm just going to have to drink yeah that's his laugh but yeah and I'm bouncing around a little bit

but why we didn't have a Dr. Umar character in Supercell didn't have a Dr. Umar character in Supercell? When you say a Dr. Umar character, what would you want him to be doing? Like, I wanted him to come down and say, brothers, you got to control your powers. Look, there's, God willing, there's other seasons. We might be able to elevate for that.

I'm afraid we didn't have a chance, but you never know. You never know. He's become your consultant right now. You're a consultant. We're going to bust around and add up to you on season two. This is a whole different show. When you leave here,

you're going to have a BDS sent to you. That's what I'm saying. No, by the way, and I'm not saying this because he's here. By the way, there's no way to make this show even better. It's just... No, I appreciate that, the show is actually,

I actually looked at it sometimes like how I listen to a person's album before they come here and I want to critique them. I want to say, ah, you know,

this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this,

this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this,

this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this,

this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this,

this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this,

this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this,

this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this,

this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this,

this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this,

this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, It does. Everyone says that, but you know what? I don't mind slow burners for me, as long as you're giving me information.

But you see a lot of the black community, they're not here for that. They're just like, man, this thing's slow as, man, this is your, I'm just like, bro, just let it, give it a minute. I'm reading these comments on Twitter, they don't see me. They're like, man, you're hiding this shit, I'm the superstar of shit, man.

This shit's slow, I'm just like, yo. And it's the Americans, right. This shit slow, I'm just like, yo. And it's the Americans back there, you know. This shit slow as fuck. I'm just like, bro, give it a chance. Yeah, yeah, you got it. But you know what it is, that's my way of storytelling. Like, I think it's worse if an episode starts off, episode two's fired, then it goes lower.

Then you hear it. Because you set the tone and then you got to keep it there. Exactly, so we start off, it's a staircase. So you're going to watch, Ryan, and think, oh, was Nori talking that talk? Then you're going Because you set the tone and then you've got to keep it there. Exactly. So we start off, it's a staircase. So you're going to watch and think, oh, I was normally talking that talk. Then you're going to get to the second and go, okay. Then you happen to get to six,

you're just thinking, oh my, what did I just go through? You feel like you went through a journey. You know what's the crazy thing? I bet you those people that was complaining

is people who have never been in London. Because you were showing the area. I think that's what it was, it was establishment. Yeah, we were establishing the characters that you have to do in any pilot episode of a show but we wanted to show London in this how it is you know okay that was a real reflection or Southland is Latin and Southland

hasn't been a screen like that we have to take our time with it right I thought that was so dope um okay you want the next one? L.A. or Miami? L.A. Directing or rhyming? Directing. I knew he was going to pick that. Pharrell or Kanye? Kanye. Podcast or radio? Be honest.

I don't actually listen to podcasts. I don't watch podcasts unless... I know, I know, I know. You can pick whatever you want. So see when I know who the guest is, that's when I'm tuning in. But remember, in my line of work, I need something kind of in the background.

This is a visual podcast. You can't get the full entertainment unless you're watching it. So it's like, ah, no. So I can't do it because I'm always writing. So I would say radio because I can have it in the background and I can still get to because I'm always writing. So I would say radio because I can have it in the background and I can still get to work.

Right, okay. Michael B. Jordan or Jonathan Majors? Michael B. Okay. Scarface or Ice Cube? Ice Cube. Slick Rick or Biggie Smalls?

Biggie Smalls. Big up Slick Rick though. He put London on. Yeah. He put London on differently. Like crazy. He was like the first. Right.

And he was a storyteller too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was hard. He might, your storyteller might from a long line. Yeah, he might have been inspired from him

but Biggie as a storyteller. To me, as an actual rapper, if rapping was an Olympic sport, just on the rapping, I think Biggie's the best me personally like still to this day people don't know who biggie was talking about on a story to tell i've heard all kinds of people that all types of dicks yeah but then you just think it was just

general i think it was just general but you know what i like i like the the mystique of the rumor because when i saw his mom do interviews she was saying that we didn't live in a one-bed shack. We didn't do this. Wait, no, she did have cancer. No, not the cancer. No, but I'm saying, because I heard maybe that maybe she wasn't, I don't know. She made it out like

a lot of the stuff was Biggie just rhyming. So who knows? It was him just rhyming. Alright, this is, oh no, no, I won't even say that. The last one for this this and then we get back into the interview loyalty or respect loyalty

okay like I feel like if someone's with you and they're there for you it don't even matter if that person don't respect you because that person

that's loyalty doesn't it it's all about who the loyalty comes from and who the respect comes from I don't need to respect some. It don't even matter if that person don't respect you because that person that's loyal to you does, doesn't it? It's all about who the loyalty comes from and who the respect comes from. I don't need to respect some people I don't care about but the people I want loyal are the people

that respect comes off as part of the package. I respect that. Take a shot to that. Take a shot to that. I'm going to take a shot to you. You're going to take a shot.

I don't need to do that. Now, this is me being generic. Thank you. You wouldn't take a job just based on the money, the character and the... No, 100%. It can't just be the money because the money is going to come if you're doing great.

I feel like greatness comes with money, innit? So I'm trying to be great. So I know when I reach my pinnacle, the money that I always want, I will get. Okay. But you do want something that's whack, that could be your last money. Right.

You know what I'm saying? That might be your last, you know? So I'm here for the long run. I think people always think short term. Okay. Whereas I want a long career making for a long time. So for me to do that, every project has to make you want to see more.

Okay. So let's break down some London slangon slang right now first my favorite bruv but do you call bruv slang to me that's just the same like saying bro yeah that's what it is no it's slang to us though because you put a v at the end yeah yeah do i even say bruv i bro is it i'm not. Do I even say bruv? Like, bro. I'm not saying bro. Do you say bruv? Do you say bruv? Yeah. I don't even say that, though. I'm more like bro.

In the series, it was bruv. Well, no, but think about it. If bruv's short for brother, what would bruv... Bruv-a? Bruv-a, yeah. Is that the way

someone's saying it? People do say bruv. I don't say bruv, but we say, yeah, bruv. Right. Okay, so that's what that means. Yeah. I know this, but I'm going to ask anyway

For the audience Wagwan Wagwan's like, what's good, man? What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? Alright But that's not London

That's Jamaica London done took it London done took it I mean, wherever there's London Islanders untook it You go to any Caribbean island You get cleared the same way though

And then But this is another one It's going to sound Jamaican too You don't know Come on man You don't know You're the greatest

We said it Why don't you Did we say you don't know You don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know You don't know You don't know I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. You done know. You done know. I don't even know. I don't think you've heard one you done know for the whole Supercell. Don't lie. You ain't heard that. You done know the Supercell.

No way. I can't. My cast, yeah. Damn, I don't know. My cast, a lot of them are young. They won't even say a slang word if it doesn't make sense. So there's no way you done knows anything. I might not hear it, ain't it?

No, no. Ain't it? Ain't it? Ain't it? Ain't it? Ain't it? Ain't it? That's definitely it. That's how we talk. Okay, now, what the fuck does ain I might not hear it, ain't it? Ain't it? Ain't it? That's how we talk.

What the fuck does ain't it mean? Ain't it? Holy shit, man. Yo, it's hard, ain't it? It's hard, isn't it? Like, ain't it? Ain't it, bro? That's mad that you didn't know

That meant That's what it means Yeah Now Edit Okay Like it's mad to edit Now this is crazy

I'm on gym time Like Okay That's what it means So if I land And I'm going to South London Which words That you recommended

I know Words Words English bro Like I don't think it's going to burn well if you try to

use words they know you know you tried to go and say your accent and you said but we will

you will just get caught that straight away where you from bro where you from just speak how you

super thug is acting a lot a lot of you just speak with English bro you'll be okay

okay so don't try it ain't the worst things you can talk Super thug is acting wild right now. As long as you just speak with English, bro, you'll be okay. Okay, so don't try to... It ain't the worst things. Yeah, you can talk normal. Yeah, because, you know... You don't know. You don't know. You know how people come around with the Jamaican belts on, and they be trying to be other than they are.

Like, don't do that. Nah, just be normal, man. London's good, man. Okay. So who do you think runs the majority is it Nigerians is it Jamaicans is it

like the most black people are in London and I would say it's definitely a strong mix it depends on the area like Peckham used to be a lot more

Africans okay Lewis Jones was a bit more Jamaicans Brixton was I would say more cab being brixton in it yeah definitely is it all still based off of where the colonies were like colonialism like well well i can only speak for my parents they came over many many years ago um thinking you know london's a safe place and we went straight to we went to a place near peckham called warth roads

like from nigeria yeah yeah my parents came so they came down there but it's kind of just where We went to a place Near Peckham Called Warth Road From Nigeria? Yeah yeah My parents came So they came down there But it's kind of just Where you can get a place bro Like my parents Would get to the council If they would have told

Listen We've got a place for you And it's in North London They would have went North London It's kind of just Wherever you can get housed You know

Because housing Them days It was You know It's wherever the council Puts you You go You know

The council could have Put us anywhere And that's where We would have repped Is this still So expensive in london my first time in london i gave the guy a thousand dollars and gave me back 475 no no no i'm just changing the money at the hotel yeah yeah so i was exchanging the money and i was like i gave him a thousand he gave me 475 i was like i'm not the smartest person in the world,

but I thought like, a thousand gets you a thousand. He's like, no, you're American. I used to go to the States back in the day. It's not that off right now. 2006, 2007, I used to come to that New York and just to come out to just party and stuff like that. I would give over a thousand and get 2000 and something back. Wow.

So that used to be the good thing. That's why we used to come over here because our money was double. Not now. Bro. Not now, it and something back. Wow. So that used to be the good thing. That's why we used to come over here because our money was double. Not now. Bro. Not now. It's very close. London is the most

expensive place ever. Wow. Like, I don't think LA is as expensive as London. Like, when I go to London, when I'm in London, I always just think, am I in the right place, bro?

Because this place is a rip-off. So London is a rip-off, but it's a side, isn't it? With that being said, you know, New York real estate being skyrocketed it costs more to film movies yeah um la where it being a movie capital yeah there's

is is is it more expensive to film in london i know that they've got new tax incentives now um i think other places have better tax incentives but London is becoming a massive film hub like the biggest movies that you're seeing now are getting shot in London so I'm assuming there must be some sort of incentive

that's making it work because a lot of movies are going to London like the when we were filming Supercell we were trying to get certain studio spaces

and they said no Disney have got it booked up for this amount of time or no they've got it for this amount of time so everything is just've got it for this amount of time. So everything is just taken.

So it's massive in London now, the film. Let me ask you about the tax incentives to get clarity on it because who benefits, who gets that money back? Is it the production, like you yourself? Like who gets the money back when it's the tax incentive? The production company and the network. So the network will get it back. So part of like recouping already the budget yeah yeah yeah so exactly that so because

so when it goes to the budget that always goes into play it's kind of like okay we've got 20m to shoot but if we shoot it here in london you might we've got 25 if you shoot it over there in atlanta you've got 35 so because you know what you're getting back time to think so yeah it helps that's why i feel making it's a big business now like a lot of countries are trying to get their tax incentives involved so people can come and film in places because it's it's always been big business but now with that and like it's like the countries are like okay we need to get our version in place now because it is making a difference so someone like me if I want to film somewhere and I'm trying to get the most for my budget, I'm looking for the place that has got the biggest

tax incentive so I can shoot there and get more on the screen. And they want it because it's bringing money into their car. Exactly, yeah. So it's a win-win.

So with shows like Top Boy and Supercell, we got to kind of see the real London, right? Yeah, I wouldn't say the upper version is well real, but this is that side of London. Yeah, this is that side

of London, right? And we're getting to see that along with the music right but i remember um uh me trying out what paid him for and at one point i don't know if it was which character uh well i i did it i was i was the guy we put out the razors and oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah obviously i remember at one point because i i actually went out for rico the um that's what I was thinking I was too fat at that time

They didn't give it to me I'm going to give it to Cameron Rightfully so He deserved it But I remember at one point Them actually going to Canada And them filming outskirts Because they couldn't make

Old school New York Right? So but New York We have 15 million movies, you know? So a lot of people didn't understand that. Sometimes when you look at Paid in Fall, when they playing the ball and the projects look mad old, that's not even New York.

It is, yeah. That's Canada, you know what I mean? Movie magic, bro. Movie magic. But with you now introducing the real part of London, or like you said, that side of London? You know what I mean? If a movie company came to you and said, yo, I want you to film London Bridge is going down, but I want you to film it in Poland.

Or in a soundstage. If I can make it look like London. Okay. If I can make it look like London, I don't, yeah. If I'm telling them, are you going to give me green screen to do it? Are you going to give me some sort of CGI budget? Or how am I going to make this look like London? If they give me that, I don't, yeah, if I'm telling them, are you going to give me green screen to do it? Are you going to give me some sort of CGI budget? How am I going to make this look like London? If they give me that, I'll do that.

A lot of the stuff, I don't know if you remember the beginning of, the end of the first episode when you see them in the future. Uh-huh, yes. And you see like the Piccadilly and all the screens. It's kind of like our version of Times Square. All of that is green screen. We wanted Piccadilly, but we couldn't get it.

So we definitely just, yeah. I did not tell. Yeah, yeah, so it's all green screen. Green screen is crazy now. Green screen is green screen. We wanted Piccadilly, but we couldn't get it. So we definitely, yeah. I did not tell. Yeah, it's all green screen. Green screen is crazy now. Green screen is crazy now. So like, most of the stuff you're watching

is probably not actually it, to be honest. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't hold onto that for anything you're watching. Really? Nah,

nah, you don't need, it doesn't make sense. It's cheaper elsewhere. You can put green screen on and just put New York in the backdrop. And they got screens that are like, like stacked,

like stacked. Bro, my thing was 30 foot tall, 360 wide. So we was in a green light. Yeah, they could do a 360 shot and it's all around us.

So everything on that 34 is whatever we want that to be. I could make it look like this whole building if you wanted to. So, yeah, I wouldn't be

wild about it. I'm glad he told me because I would have bet if somebody came up to me and be like, yo, Superstar has some green screen in there. I would be like, no glad he told me because I would have bet if somebody came up to me and were like, yo, Superstar has some green screen in there, I'd be like,

no, it wasn't. I would have bet. I would have lost. Nah, that's movies now, man. I couldn't tell none of that. So you did a great job. Yeah, nah. You'll be surprised

the films that you are watching that you think is set here and set there, but it's really just green screen. What's the difference between green screen and green screen? There's not really much of a difference, you know.

Honestly, I asked the same question to my SFX guy What's the difference between green and blue screen? the people behind the camera right the fact that you have an all-black cast does that affect how you who you hire that's behind the camera i wanted this show to be the um the benchmark for a majority black production so it wasn't just in front like all of our heads of departments were black like the person that shot it the head of costume the head of makeup um we got a lot of black hds and we we looked for all the people in film and tv that was at that level that could get in there because there's i don't think it's good enough just to have everyone in front of the camera be black and then the representation behind still will be non-black so we we went out of the way and netflix was cool that they knew good thing was with all the worrying and me eating their free food they knew they knew what I wanted to do

They knew you were gonna Spend the budget If you're gonna come out And feed me And if you're gonna Like They're basically wooing me You know

They were courting me So if you're gonna court me Don't court me And then when you get me Don't treat me like You don't want me Let me do what I do So I literally done

Everything I wanted to do And I was like Yo every time They'll be pushed I'm like yo You just came to me. It's like, okay, yeah, go on then. Let me run with it.

So that's why I feel like in life, it is good to earn your position rather than chasing it. When you chase it, you're going to have to be working at their pace. But when they come to you, you work at your own pace. You know what I'm saying? I don't know if you could answer this,

but if you can, being that obviously they funded the whole production, right? And it's your creative. You wrote everything. Everything is you. You directed it. How is it in perpetuity? I don't own that.

You don't? I own 0% of Supercell. How can that change moving forward? If one day Netflix wake up and say, you know what, we're giving shows to people. Do you want your show that you created and written? And that's not going to happen. So it doesn't change with Netflix,

but that's just Netflix's model. I'm not here to complain about it. I knew what I was walking into. People have walked away from deals. You would see, do you know Michaela Cole who done I May Destroy You? There's a show called I May Destroy You from a British writer.

It won loads of film awards and it was a big show. And so it says that it was written that she turned down a big paycheck because she didn't want to go there because she couldn't own anything and i admire for that that was her second tv show so she she probably saw it was like on her first tv show and probably told herself second time around i'm not doing that and she walked away from the deal and then the show became a massive success where it went anyway i wasn't walking away from the deal because that was my first tv show

and i was like opening for you i'll take this money and if you don't keep that one that's fine i'll make another one you know i wasn't worried about that like cool and use it on supercell um i i know enough to know about me the show probably wouldn't be the same so it's cool but in general even if that show is theirs I can make another show and now now I know how it goes now when it goes next time around I'm going to be trying

to go into my own shit bag with it you know yeah are we trying to stick with series or are we going to go into the feature films

yeah no I'm getting into movies bro I fell into TV by accident when I was writing Supercell it wasn't meant to be TV

but I'm at 200 pages I'm like yeah this is this ain't this ain't I didn't meant to be TV but I'm at 200 pages I'm like yeah this is this ain't it needs more time yeah this ain't I didn't want to do TV I wasn't

I wasn't it just felt like for me to go down as one of the greats when you think of all the great filmmakers you're not thinking of no TV shows

like you mentioned like who's your favourite filmmaker if you've got any director who's your favourite filmmaker oh man that's a good one it could just director, who's your favorite filmmaker? Oh man, that's a good one. You can just be anybody.

Who's one of your favorites? I don't have to be your best. Larry David. Or Scorsese. What TV show did Larry David do? Curb Your Enthusiasm. Ah, so you're one off.

That's right off. But more TV specific? You said TV? Yeah, you're on TV. Oh, TV, I can't even think of it.

No one's, I can't think of TV. No one's just different, bro. You're just on TV. Okay, okay, okay,

okay, okay, okay, okay. Most man, I can't think of TV. No, it's just different. You can talk about something else. Okay, okay. So you meant the director. Okay, okay, okay. Most men are... I can't think TV. Most men are not. Right. Because you don't even know who the directors of TV are.

Right. You know that you like the show. Right. But you don't know who created it because it's not even the director. What makes a TV show is not the director. They add to it.

They're very vital, but it's the person that creates it. Right. The person that had the idea for Game of Thrones, for The Wire, for Breaking Bad. Sometimes they got multiple directors but it's the person that creates it. The person that had the idea for Game of Thrones, for The Wire, for Breaking Bad. Sometimes they got

multiple directors on episodes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I directed three and I had another director do three. I love how everything it says written and created by Batman.

I love that. It needed to be clear. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? It needed to be clear still because I didn't come in for TV. But if you're watching this TV, this ain't going to be clear still because i didn't come in for tv but if you're watching this tv this ain't gonna be that tv where i don't know who made who was writing sopranos okay who was directing it no no no you're gonna think supercell and you're gonna

figure out man so now when i'm trying to go do a movie that's my currency now so but i'm trying to do movies more i have got another i've got seasons of Supercell in my head and I've got another TV show I want to do. Right. But I really want to go back to movies. And that's mainly because, other than the fact it comes with that prestige, I just love watching my work with a live audience. Right.

So the best you get to that, you get the premieres, but then you have to go on Twitter and see what people are saying. I want to sit in a room with you and hear you laugh at the joke and see you cry at the emotion and you don't,

you just don't get that with TV, man. And that's why I want to go back and do some movies but I still want my show to be going. For you to get that titling. Oh, you go on Twitter? Yeah. You like your negative energy on Twitter?

Me too. This guy loves the negative energy. You know what it is? I'm trying hard, so hard not to, bro. I did say rough, there you go. So I actually did say it. You know what it is I love the negative energy I try so hard Not to bro But Yeah I do say rough There you go So I actually do say it

You know what it is You never know But I actually do say it I try so hard not to But You know when you just Want to know What the people are saying

Sometimes So you feel Twitter is the best place for that 100% If you want to know What people think about drink chants Yes Oh no no we go

We see it all the time But you know And why it's deep though Like it makes you think Are you damaged Because I will read If you want to know what people think about drink chants. Yes, yes. Oh, no, no, we good. We see it all the time. And why it's deep, though, it makes you think, are you damaged? Because I will read a thousand positive messages telling me how great it is. And one negative message is effective. It's with me all day. It's like that person's in your ear telling you that.

And then you want to hit him back. Meanwhile, everyone else is saying, yo, your shit is great You're the best Why do we care about the negative When they're saying so much love That shows you the power of negativity man It's crazy

You know what I heard You know what I heard It's crazy They said real artists Love to be abused I don't love to be abused I don't love to be abused But I recognize

My You know I recognize When I'm in that area No real artists are sensitive And the ego is a sensitive thing. I agree with that. I do get sensitive with negativity because I've seen there's ways to say it. Like, if I didn't like something, I don't need to put it down. I can just tell you what I did like.

There's ways. So I do get sensitive with it, but I need to start doing it. I don't think it's healthy, man. I don't think it's healthy to go on there. Especially when there's trolls on there that they're not even really real people. And you know when everybody loves something, there's people out there

that their job is to go against it. Yeah. You know, so then you see the negative and you start thinking, oh man, like,

it's deep. So I need to start doing that though. Yeah, you could post a picture of a baby. Everybody be like, is he so cute? There's some nigga named Hacksaw Jim 34.

It's like, fuck that baby. Yeah. He's like, he's dead. He's like, you're dead? He's like, who the fuck's this fucking baby? I'm just saying that's human nature for you, man. I feel some of us, like, I think that's the only time they get attention on the day.

I think that's the only time they shine, the only time they're looked at outside of their regular job where they feel like, if they get that top comment on the blog page or that top comment on loads of likes on their Twitter page, that's their win.

Yeah, social media, not in real life, but social media kind of made everybody on the same level. It's crazy to me. Because you read the message. Once you read the message,

you're in their world. Yeah. But there's also AI bots that just troll. What? There's AI bots that troll now? On Twitter especially. Don't somebody have to

set the bots onto them? Someone's an asshole enough That's a tech guy Says okay I'm a dick And I just want to be a dick To the world And they find keywords To go and tweet back to you

Just to troll That's crazy That's crazy I never engage in it though So I'll just leave it But it is what it is No but I wanted to ask you Did you

How much did you have to Fight for your titling Um nah Not at all you know Not at all Um I can't even really talk bad on netflix because i see that see when you watch the show today but everything you love about it i can

put my hands up and say that's me right i think you thought no it's not that i have to put my hands up say bro that was me because they let me run and i think it was only because as i said they pursued me and my vision for it was so clear and we're talking about a world that they're not familiar with like that South London world is very specific so they couldn't even criticize it was hard to say and I'm like no that's what they would say that's what they would do so they kind of let me just go with it man but the titling I remember there was all right so there was a good the titling created by and written by are usually on the same cards you know like and if you got created and written by on the

first episode you don't need to have it everywhere else so i remember one time um one of the team i'm not gonna say who it was it's like you know raps um you know you've got it on the front card so you don't really need it on the next two cards i was like i know so shall we take off i said no i said i know i'm not taking off i wanted it to be every card that you could get. I respect that. Separate. Written by, directed by,

created by. Separate, just so you know. You know who I saw do it like a cheat? Shonda Rhimes on Queen Charlotte. She got a Bridgerton show. Damn, I didn't even think of that.

And she, remember she don't, she produces the Bridgertons but she don't write them. But she wrote this particular one, this spin-off, yeah? I would have bet you was the first person to do that too.

I would have lost two bets. I would have done it anyway. But I saw her do it. I saw her do it. This show was probably, it probably wasn't your thing to watch, but I watched it because I watch everything. But I saw written by Shonda Rhimes.

Created by Shonda Rhimes. I was like, okay, I see what you're doing, Shonda. Right. Netflix. Right. This is what we're doing now.

Right. But I like that. I figured like, why not? If you've done it, it's not like a lad. They were all the roles that I played,

you know what I'm saying? Yeah. By all means. And you were in one scene in the series. I done my little Stan Lee cameo. Yeah, yeah.

Which wasn't mine. I originally wasn't on it, but my director, the director of the episode was really pushing on it but my director that um director episode was really pushing on it i said you know what it's in a club right yeah yeah yeah when he disappears and he comes back and you're like i think you said bro right there yeah yeah that was like my little a little homage to stanley because you know marvel movie stanley yeah yeah so that was like my little my little homage to Stan Lee because you know in Marvel movies Stan Lee, you know what I mean? Yeah.

Yeah, so that was like my little homage to it and I thought that was pretty cool. It wasn't my idea. Right. Now you should do that. But I liked it. I did like it.

You should do that because I can tell you attached to this project. I can tell like this project is your baby. So I don't know if we spoke about this earlier but maybe we did

or maybe we didn't. We said we're going to feature films and we said let me ask you this no no let me ask you this this is what i meant to ask earlier could you film are all white cats i could but at this point in my life, I won't. Now. I feel like my position now is to give black actors a chance.

Stay in Wakanda. Yeah, yeah. It's just, there's just not, you know, every 10 movies. Right. With all white cast, all non-black. There's one, you know, which is less work for black actors. Having to fly over, over here to get work.

I think the role, my thing now, it can't, it just has to be a black lead. I don't mind if everybody else around him is white at the moment, if I can't, but the story that we're following,

the main person, has to be black. Like, for me, at the moment, at this stage in my career. I'm not saying it might not change 10 years from now,

but I feel like, you see when you watch a Spike Lee movie, you know, you know what you're going to get. You know, he's there to uplift the community and I'm inspired

by what Spike Lee done, you know, I think he came out the gate. I think he did like a white movie though. He did? Did he do one? Come on,

come on. He did like a white movie or a white series. I ain't seen it and if it was, how long was it? I mean, it wasn't called a white series or a white movie. I don't think a full white cast. is it going to do it how long into how long is it a white series i haven't seen it and if it was how long was it i mean it wasn't called a white series i don't think of all white cats but it was it was the lead black dog i don't mind if number one on the cool sheet is black and everyone around the person is not black that's that's that's that's to me still the same thing okay because then because that what that does it shows that you can be black and lead a movie which

means that now other blacks get opportunities off that as well. But would I do it with a main white lead? Would I be tempted if someone said Leonardo DiCaprio or Robert De Niro

or this? Of course I would be. But then I'm going to be like how can I sneak Denzel or Will Smith in here? That's what I'm going to be like. No? Nah bro.

It might be a commercial. Hey Spike Spike don't play about all that bro. I don't even think it's a commercial, bro. Yeah, yeah. Spike is very... I'll get back to it. I'll figure it out.

I forget what it was. Maybe he was a consultant on something. Maybe that, but that it says... On something HBO. That it's him? I don't think so. Yeah, being a consultant is one thing, isn't it? Right.

You know, but his actual name was written down. I don't think I've seen it. I haven't seen anything from Spike. Could you tell the whole New York story? Easy. The movie I just wrote was based on the whole of New York.

Wow. Yeah, I just wrote it. I can't say too much about it, but it's a sick story and it's set in New York. And it's set in New York in the 1970s, actually, as well.

Easy. I can write a story at any time. I was born in 77, just in case you want to throw me up in there. Yeah. You can do New York accent too.

Oh, I can do New York accent. If there's anything I can do. Yeah, you can definitely do New York accent. So, yeah, man. So it don't matter about where it's set. It's just I just need

to understand the story and the characters. If I understand the person's motivation and his aspirations or his weaknesses, I can tell the story. God damn it. Is there creative like process you go through to come up with stories is there

anything that inspires you is amused to you i have to watch everything it's crazy but you see if you tell me there's a show that's cold i will watch it and it might not even be my cup of tea but i need to know what got you so excited about it. So what, cause if someone, if you got excited about it, there's probably thousands of other people that are excited about that same thing. So what can I take from there to add to my game to see what people are into? Cause you, that's the only way you stay common. Remember, I never got a chance to go film school or any of these places. It was just me relentlessly watching film and TV, learning how to do what I do.

So, um, so I, uh I so if I'm writing a gangster movie I will watch every single gangster movie I'll find a list of the 10 greatest gangster movies of all time and I'll watch them

all back to back before I start writing because I need to see what did everybody love about all of these movies and now I need to go in with my take on what

you know so that's kind of my process that makes sense how about reality shows nah it's not my bag so that's kind of my process that makes sense how about reality shows nah it's not my bag man it's just not my bag

um I think big on everyone that's made and living off of it and is doing well for me um but I just don't watch them it's just not

it's not even reality anymore it's actually it's actually scripture now yeah like I remember back in the day when Big Brother first came out in the UK yeah in the UK was that the first we didn't have that out here bro Big Brother came, I remember back in the day when Big Brother first came out in the UK. Yeah, in the UK.

Was that the first? We didn't have that out here at first. Bro, Big Brother came out. I was young at the time, but that was good. Real world? Real world? No, I think Big Brother

was for real. No, we had Big Brother. Big Brother first. I think we had Big Brother first. And that came out, yeah, and I watched that. And it was crazy because that was a real reality show

because they didn't know that, okay, at the time, if someone has sex, you get 50 grand. If you do something sneaky, you get this. No one knew this in the season. Wait, wait, wait.

Yeah, yeah, that was the rule in Big Brother. Really? Yeah, yeah. If the couple have sex, you get money. But remember, the contestants don't know this. Okay.

They don't know this. So there was a villain in the show, but he was a real villain. He was doing sneaky things like, he'll go up to you and say, yeah, man, I don but he was a real villain he was doing sneaky things like he'll go up to you and say yeah man i don't i don't really feel him and he'll go up to you and say yeah what do you think you know he just this was a real two-faced guy and i'm watching this like it's just real bro like people actually like this and i'm never thinking nah this is actually crazy reality tv and i was a fan of that right season two came out and then it's like the rule

they watched the season one so everyone knew because you know if we have sex we got to mind so they're trying to have sex and that guy that was doing the sneakiness

he got mad deals when he came out and he got loads of I'm hosting gigs so then everyone in the next season was trying to do that and I was like

no it's not real normal like when it was pure and nobody knew you was actually just watching normal people doing what normal people do after that when i started seeing clips of other stuff i was like oh he's just doing what he was doing she was just doing what she was doing so i kind of had a sour taste in my mouth reality tv because i know it's i know what the aim is the aim is for everyone to come

out you want to have a career when you come out so i I feel like you're guiding on, putting on a role, which is fine, but that's telling me I'm watching a scripted TV show instead of telling me it's reality. So I kind of, it's just not my bag.

And that's how the real world, it started out pretty real and then after people saw it, then people started manipulating themselves on set. Yeah, that's why you've got to watch the first things

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But what I mean by that is like, you know how Harlem Nights is every, there's nobody that's like a, that's not a star. Right. Like everybody.

Was everybody a star at that time? When I watched the O.C. I recognized. I mean, everybody was somebody. I mean, Richard Pryor. Maybe everybody wasn't a star.

No, but the main, the main cast were all star cast. The main cast were star. But I mean, even the B and C grade people were somebody. People coming up, but I'm talking about the main cast. The main cast were all-star cast. The main cast were stars. But I mean, even the B and C grade people were somebody. People coming up, but I'm talking about the main cast. The main cast.

Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy. Mr. Pryor. Was it Red Fox? Red Fox. Yeah. I love that movie. If you was to do that with the London version or the UK version.

I would do something like that, but later on in the day in my career. Because they're already popping if they're saying everybody was a star let me get someone let me get some new if I could get some new faces in there

along these stars I would do it but I'm big on giving new talent a chance you know when I was coming through I was always wishing someone would put me on

and I don't think it works like that I actually don't think anybody can put you on I think you have to put yourself on but I was always hoping somebody would and nobody ever did

so with me now when I even put people on they're not just people who are walking on the street and I'm like you do you want to be in a movie it's not like that it's people that I see

they're posting skits on their TikTok every single day playing the dad the mum the brother I'm like this guy can act come and audition

you know maybe we can take it from here to there so um so I would rather have some unknowns in there than have a full unknown cast

but I would I would do it as long as I can throw some new guys in there right yeah I would love to see that Harlem Nights you know I ain't even thought about

that movie for a long time but I did love it oh listen especially when she's fighting when um she's fighting when she's fighting Eddie Murphy and she punches him up

and he and he shoots him in the toe yeah yeah yeah that was dope man I'm gonna go back and watch that how about Seinfeld

you ever cause Seinfeld is the opposite Seinfeld only got one black dude in there same with Friends Friends had like every

someone every other I never fucked with Friends so I don't know see I wasn't rocking with Seinfeld but I rocked with friends oh shit I didn't fuck with

neither of those I was a big friends fan Seinfeld never really held me but I did love friends okay but I saw I saw what people

liked in Seinfeld but I was more of a friends guy but both all of them shows in them days was 99% 9.9% white cops

how about Supercell are we gonna make this animated series you gonna call Netflix bro I can even comic books 9.9% white parts. How about Supercell? Are we going to make this an animated series? You got to call Netflix, bro. Even comic books. I think there could be.

But again, you know, it's down to them. I can always pitch it, but it's down to them. When I was in Vegas not too long ago and I saw the Stranger Things store, massive store of Stranger Things. I was like, and I remember saying, that's the dream, you know? A Supercell store store big like that in Vegas

just wherever where people are just going in and coming out with Stranger Things t-shirts like like it's you know like it's Gucci Prada

that's how they feel with it and I'm like that's when you go when you got a show like that it's a no brainer if the Duffel Brothers who do Stranger Things went into Netflix

and said they want to do comic books they're going to back their hand off because they've won so I'm not in a rush in the process. I think, you know, give me two, three, four seasons. Yeah, why not? Let's go. Well, I'm going to tell you something.

I went to go see Black Panther. Right? I remember me crying. After the first one? Not maybe because the movie warranted me to cry, but because me seeing my people held in such a high standard. It was amazing. And then having a whole, we start calling us Wakanda. We Wakanda, motherfucker.

Right? Yeah, that's dope. And then the second one, proud. And then I remember not feeling that feeling again for a long time. And then Bob Marley's movie came out. One Love,

Holtat Kingsley. It's my guy. And it wasn't like the superhero part of Bob Marley. It was the normal part of Bob Marley

that made me feel that same exact thing, right? The same exact love, like same exact passion of me seeing my people on screen and them being a superhero. I haven't had that feeling since until I've seen Supercell. Hey, I appreciate that.

Thank you. Thank you, man. I'm not saying this Like I watched it And I was just like Because And to me This was even more relatable Because a lot of us

Don't know our superpowers A lot of us Are superheroes 100% And don't know Our actual superpowers Yeah I think we all have

A genius ability in us And we just have to unlock it It's kind of like If you don't give Venus and Serena a tennis bat, then we don't know. You know, you don't give Jay a microphone, you don't know. You know, you don't put Lewis Hamilton behind the steering wheel, you don't know.

So we just need to be put in our position and then our superpower activates, man. Because that's what I feel like. I feel like most of us is great, we just don't know. We don't know how to pull out the Spider't know. We don't know how to pull out the Spider-Man. We don't know how to do our eyes like this.

I gotta watch it. I make sense of it. Don't give it too much away. It's dope. I've been doing it all day and nothing worked for me. You gotta get stressed. You gotta get super stressed. Raise your heartbeat.

Nah, but I swear to God, not gassing you, not, you know, it's a certain proudness that comes across on the screen. And I'll tell you the truth. It's going to sound a little crazy. I get that same

proudness when I watch The Wire. I love The Wire. I get that same proudness when I watch The Wire. I love The Wire. I get that same proudness when I watch something that doesn't have that balance. But this has a perfect balance. You have a brother who's trying to save his girl. And in order to save his girl, he got to get together with four individuals that he does not know. Don't even know where they are. Don't even know.

Don't know where they are. Just got fast named. And they also, I don't want to say gangsters, but they also, like... They're a little tougher than him, actually. They've been through more than he's been through. Yeah. And he's the one who can see in the future.

So it always makes me feel like that. Like, you know, God bless me for going so deep, but, like, Malcolm X saw the future. Like, you know, God bless me for, for going so deep, but like Malcolm X saw the future. Like he spoke about the future. He was like, yo, I see a world where everyone gets along. Yeah.

Holy shit. Malcolm or Martin? Martin had the dream. Malcolm, after Malcolm went to Mecca, he said he saw a world where all Muslims. But Martin was saying that from the beginning. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think they both, you can put them both on the same level. Of course. It's a character. And when he came back from Mecca, he was saying that exactly. There's a character in the movie. I don't even want to say his name because I want you all to figure it out for your own. But he sees into the future. And sometimes seeing into the future is not good.

And you don't want to break that to like you know what i'm saying so like i just felt like that shit was just so genius because it was like it was characters i could relate to but then they powers it's like oh i wish i had that it's crazy see i i wouldn't want to be able to see the future though yeah i wouldn't want that i don't mind going back to the past i wouldn't wait to go to the future because if you if you go to the future and you find out that there day you're going to die how can you enjoy anything today you can't really enjoy you might think

yeah party and YOLO until this day comes but that's just on the back of your head forever so I don't want to know the future you don't want to

go to the future and see that drink chance ain't here no more you know that's our time bro you're just thinking what have I done what did I do

in this path to make this go away right so you just you don't want to know the future man so like that's what that's why i love the show because he goes there and he doesn't burden her with this and you know i see some trolls like why did he just tell her why did he just tell him like but you can see he's killing me he's crying you see he's killing him if he doesn't want to tell you've just killed me right right you killed me right there I don't want to know this

I don't want to know this now I can't there's nothing I can do before then I can actually genuinely be happy nothing means nothing now so that's what I

that's what I personally love about this show and I think if you watch it with that lens and really seeing the layers of it you see why like your compliments

have been so nice to hear today and other people have said similar things because when you watch it you start seeing the your compliments have been so nice to hear today and other people have said similar things because when you watch it you start seeing the layers you think this is actually deep man this is actually this means this and that means that and there is so many some even meanings that i didn't do on purpose but because how i think as a writer and as a man i'm writing things with my subconscious in there so i'm doing things so that's probably why you're picking up on

certain things as well right and and that's why I want to see the future because I'm not going to blow it up. But like the part two, when he's saying, yo, I'm going to go back and I'm going to figure out this. I'm going to figure out this and I'm going to figure out that.

And it was just like, it just set it up for me to just be like, damn, my motherfucker. Like I wanted the season two, like right then and there. Like if I would have had to buy season two right then and there, I'd be like, what the fuck? I thought like, right then and there. Like, if I would have had to buy season two right then and there,

I'd be like, I thought that everyone would have, you know? I would have. Like, everybody would have, you know? But we done that. I ended it like that

because the one thing I was going to say, I want to leave people wanting more. You know? Like, there was times it wasn't going to end that way and I was like, nah, this is just, this is what's going to make people want more

and this is, you know, so we can get a season two and we can expand it. Right. Do you think, um, do you think black people appreciate it as much as you cater to black people? I think,

I think the black community showed out, man. Like our numbers went crazy because of the black community. It was number one for the last two weeks. I think we just got it. And that was literally because black people spreading the word.

Going into work, telling their counterparts at work, have you seen this? Have you seen that? They show that. I can't even have, I've got not one bit of anger for the black community. Even the people that are online trolling it, they don't understand that when they're going on are online trolling it, they don't understand that when they're going

on Twitter and trolling it, they're starting a conversation for someone to watch anyway. But they don't get that. They're putting it down but they don't know they're making more people watch. So it really,

the day really came up. Yeah, for sure. Do you realize, EFN, that there's a superhero in Queens? The Joker even come from the Bronx.

Batman come from Gotham City. Spider-Man come from Queens. Gotham is meant to be New York, isn't it? Is it or Chicago? Gotham was meant to be based on New York. Then, they went across the pond and got superheroes.

Miami don't got shit. Miami ain't got shit. Yeah, we need to figure it out. We got to talk to the got shit. Yeah, we need to figure it out. We got cocaine cowboys. Hey, man. Don't talk about Miami like that. We got superheroes. It's my second hood.

They take two lines and they superheroes. It's my second hood, but I just realized that Miami ain't got nothing. Hey, man. You don't got Miami, bro. There's a kitchen in Miami. Hey, hey, hey. You got Tony Montana. You got Tony Montana.

As I said, we got the cocaine cowboys. Yeah. Yeah, but Tony Montana was fake, so we need like... None of the superheroes are real. Huh? No, but Tony Montana was based on real... I know that. A collection of real people, which is a cocaine cowboy era.

I know that. Right. Yeah, y'all need a superhero in Miami. Miami's popping, man. So would you do a superhero story in Miami? I'll do anything in Miami. That does cocaine and flies. I mean...

I don't know about the second part of that, but I'll definitely tell a story in Miami that does cocaine and flies I mean I don't know about the second part but I'll definitely will tell the story in Miami 100% I was going to shoot a movie in Miami

just before COVID came and washed it away so Miami's a hot capital people want to come here but I think you know it is we're not familiar

with the rough part we think of Miami we think of the palm trees we can take a trip right now oh yeah it's like London.

You feel like the high life. You feel the high life. You don't feel like the struggle. They show the beach, South Beach, and South Beach is now Miami. It's Miami, you know.

Yeah, there'll be parts of Miami that'll be like, this is America? I think that would be a good story to tell, though. Like, this is the Miami that most people know. Then you see the South Beach

and the fact that this is the real Miami. Then you go into the hood of it, and that would be dope. I would watch that movie. Watch Cocaine Cowboys, the real Miami then you go into the hood of it that would be dope I would watch that movie watch Cocaine Cowboys the documentary series I've seen a lot of that

that's a big part of Miami but there's a lot more to Miami man so Interscope comes to you excuse me Universal comes to you and says Rap Man

you got a choice do one video for one of our artists say Universal now Kendrick Lamar or Drake I like how you set that up I killed it right

I'm doing me personally I'm doing it for Kendrick right now okay I would do it for Kendrick right now like but your accent is more like Drake's I love Drake as well

I do love Drake as well like but if you're, I'm a businessman. And like, right now, I feel like the smart business is on Kendrick,

isn't it? So yeah, yo, for sure. I wasn't ready. Why you did that to him, bro? I don't feel honest,

is it? Like, I feel like Kendrick's where you put your money right now. I'm not going to lie, you got a little bit of your Malibu rum left. Take another laugh. Yeah, big up, big up. Yeah, yeah, we're bigging you up, man. Big love, now. I'm not going to lie. You got a little bit of your Malibu rum left. Take a little laugh.

Big up, big up. Yeah, yeah. We're bigging you up, man. Big up to you. I take a little bit more. I don't want to jerk you. Jerk you like that. Man, I ain't going to lie, man.

I'm really, really proud of you. I'm really proud of, thank you, you know, Roc Nation for seeing your vision. Yeah, I appreciate that, man. As well. And yourself. You know, Rock Nation, for seeing your vision. No, I appreciate that, man, as well, and yourself. You know, for seeing you and James, very strong-minded black individuals

doing black things with black cast. And by the way, God bless me for saying it this way and saying it like this. A lot of people always say support black and then sometimes the quality of that black product isn't up to par. You know what I mean? If there's a black Fendi, I'm going to support the black Fendi way more. But I don't want to, you know...

You don't want to have a lesser quality product just because they... That's why I commend you. Like I said, I was trying to critique you in a good way. Let me just find some flaws in this. Like I said, I was trying to critique you, like, in a good way. Like, just be like, yo, let me just find some flaws in this, you know, and I just couldn't because it's really put together. And I knew the way Ty Ty told me to watch it.

Did you? I was going to say, was this something you would have watched if Ty didn't say watch it? You know what? I started to watch it. Oh, before I factored you. Yeah, before that. And remember, I remember it was starting off slow, and I didn it because i kept it kept being number one on my shit so i

just kept looking and i was like all right cool and then when ty said that to me i was like oh this is art this is what i saw already and then me and my wife we went we watched it and then we watched this again today okay and i was just like holy shit and like i said if i was a young dude from the hood that didn't have this this career didn't have this that's that's something i would look at for inspiration now i've been getting a lot of that and i appreciate that man it has made people a lot of people reach out who's just like you know i've never thought about acting before but i want to be in something like this or can do I make something like this? And it has really uplifted a lot of people, man,

just to see people who look like us doing things like that and just seeing it getting taken in by the world, you know. I think it was just needed, man. I think it was

the right time. And one thing that was genius about it was you didn't label it episode one, episode two. You named it about it was you didn't label it season episode one no episode two

you named it the names of the characters so you fall in love with the actual I was like yo I was pausing this shit

you'd be surprised what that does to you I don't know what it does you see when you see a show episode called Sabrina say like we've only got

40% of Sabrina in there when we really needed 60% right your mind is automatically now telling you you're looking for everything Sabrina says so everything she's doing

you're watching that because you're thinking this is the episode it's all about Sabrina so it takes you there so it's kind of like a way and it so it does exactly

what you said as well you get to know that character individually but it really makes you know okay so I'm getting to know Michael here Taser here Sabrina here Andre here and then the time you get to the six character individually but it really makes you know okay so i'm getting to know michael here taser here sabrina here andre here and then the time you get to the six you feel like you've known them now you're ready for them to come together and um yeah that was always the way it was planned to do it like that man it was like honestly we put a lot of work

into that show let me just tell you something creatively and i'm a creative person i was just like this shit is crazy like like he didn Like I said, he didn't label it. He labeled it so you could fall in love with the characters. So by next season... Next season, it's straight smoke.

I don't need to introduce you to them no more. So people like yourself say it starts off slow, which it does. But you see season two, it don't start off slow. Right.

That's going off. We're getting flat. Well, as long as we get it. I already know. I've got the opening scene. So my cast already know my opening. I'm not going to give it to you. No, no, already know I've got the opening scene so my cast already know my opening I'm not going to give it to you

no no no please but the opening scene is just smoke I take another one you know what I'm saying so let me ask you the budget comes in it's exactly what you asked for

because everything was based out of London this time that you didn't go anywhere. You went to Scotland, but that's about it. You went to Scotland? Is that when the guy was brand? Yeah, yeah. So you really went to Scotland?

Yeah, we actually went to Scotland. All right, that was one of my favorite scenes, by the way. Yeah, yeah, it was funny. We actually went to Scotland. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man, I feel so sorry, because you look at it. I was going to watch it. I was going to watch it.

I bet. Just watch it in the 70s. I'm going to watch it. Get through it. I watched the trailer bet. Just watch it and just send me a DM. I'm going to watch it. Get through it. If you watch the trailer, I watched the trailer. Did you like Top Boy? Of course.

If you like my accent and that one. I went back, I watched the Netflix one and then I went back to watch the older, the first one. The first one was my favorite one.

And I loved it. If you like that world, yeah, you're right. Yeah. You into superhero stuff? Yeah. This is your bag. It was a time

where they didn't know their powers. But they're using it by mistake. I'm kind of mad because I don't want him to tell me any more shit. I'm sorry. I'm going to watch this shit though. You knew I was coming. I got two little kids at the crib. The weekend is the time where I'm going to watch it all.

That's why I was ready to do it. So it's this one guy and I believe his thing is speed, but he's so fast that he ran to another country. Yeah, it was crazy.

It's a good thing. So I'm looking and I'm like, because I think it's called Nima or Lima or something like that. The part of Scotland

that we went to. Edinburgh. Oh, Edinburgh. And he goes, where am I at? And she goes, and then the lady goes to him, tells him where he's at and he And he goes, where am I at? And she goes, and then the lady goes to him, tells him where he's at, and he

goes, well, where's that at? And he goes, you know another one? Like, you in Scotland. And then he comes back. This is the part that's really, really, really, really, really dope about our people. Is, we can, I can have

the illest power in the world and come to you and tell you, yo, I got the ill power. And you're like, well do it now. And that's what it was basically. Yeah. You have to show improvement.

You know what I'm saying? Every one of them went back and was like telling their friends, but they was telling them nationally. They're not trying to like, they're not trying to like, you know, get you excited or something like, they're like, yo like they're not trying to like you know get you excited or something like

they're like yo listen I think there's something wrong with me but I think like it's in a good way all of their friends was like just calm down

relax can you know what's funny though yeah one friend said to them okay do it now then like that's just how we are like our people are fucked up

and they couldn't do it couldn't do it you couldn't do it. They couldn't do it. You couldn't do it. And you know what's funny? We go out watching all these superhero shows, and it's like the rule is you get your part, you don't tell no one. But, bro, you're going to tell someone.

You made it realistic. Someone. Someone. Your partner, your closest friend, somebody's getting to hearing that, whether it's your brother or your sister. So for me, I was like, nah. And the reactions need to be realistic.

Because you told me you can fly. You can fly. You can fly. Bro, let me see you fly then, bro. I'm going to want to see that. Nah, so. And that is my realistic reaction. And that's the show's reaction.

Everyone's reaction is, show me. You can't just say, you know. It's hilarious. And these people are best friends. So it's not like They're going to tell Like the guy The security guard At Walmart

They're talking about Yo you know I think something's wrong with me And the people are like You need to calm down Yeah it's real It's so grounded That's what makes it

You're thinking It's just people Flying through the air But it's not You can take away the powers And still follow these Follow these people Through the show

Because that's how Entertaining their character arcs are. I'm on it this weekend. Man, I ain't going to lie to you, man. I was so excited, you know what I mean, to give you your flowers, man. I appreciate it, man. I'm excited about what's going on around your way. What's going on with London, the energy,

everything that's happening, the rappers. You guys are finally getting your props. Yeah, man. At one point, it was just y'all giving y'all self props, right? But that's how it starts. When y'all started to... But then now it's like,

you know what I mean? What's the little baby record? Central C. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can go, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's killing it. Central C's. I've been saying it all day. I said, we could go bruh for bruh.

I don't know why I keep saying that. You know what I mean? Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Central C's killing it. And people like that, he's helping it. He's really helping the scene with what he's doing. Because now, when I see a Central C and Lil Baby song,

I'm not surprised no more. Right. It's like, oh oh yeah you've got your hot rapper with our hot rapper let's go it doesn't feel like a shot back in the day a uk ice collab with america has collab was like bro mama's got someone now it's just like okay yeah that's that's gonna be a banger like we're starting to be seen as the equals that we are now, even though we're smaller. So we don't expect to have everything you have. We're like, we're like this half the size of your smallest state compared to you. But we've got talent here,

bro. The UK, the UK is hot right now. Like that shit, you have to, Super Soul kind of shows that for me because that is so unapologetically London. It wasn't watered down at all, but it was the global show for weeks.

And America loved it. Africa loved it. Europe loved it. So I just think as long as the, I think the cultures are one now, man. I think we're emerging, man. So I think we can embrace everyone. I know this is an off the wall question,

but you think Afro beats has something to do with that? It might have played part. 100%. Because how big Burnham and Wizkid is and people, the songs that everyone's playing. I think the music is the same now. So you go to the club, you might in a club in Miami,

you might have some different songs than we listen to, but the song that everyone's going crazy, we go crazy to that song as well. That helps. It all brings everything together, man. So I think music plays a big part, not even just Afro beats. I think in general, the music now we listen to is so. And how global, like hip hop is so global. It's like, it's just one big community that's taken over everything,

to be honest with you. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, we're pop culture now. I always say that. I always say that we are the pop culture. Yeah. Man, I'm honored, man.

Bro, that makes me as well, bro. Look, I've got my flowers here. I've seen the suitcase. You got another shot? Yeah, I've seen the suitcase. No, no, no. We shot it up again? Mm-hmm.

Let's go, chicos. Nah, because one more time. Yeah, I got them. But I want to big them up one more time because... What are you bigging up? Stress sets? No, what you're doing... Stress sets.

When you're stressed. Stress sets when you're stressed. No, because what you're doing. You're stressed. Just stress when you're stressed. Don't pay no sponsors. What you're doing is unheard of. Like, me, again, I didn't see Top Boy, so I want to big that up. But me looking at that and me seeing you unapologetically be who you are, like, who this is. Like I said, I had to

rewind a couple of times. I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah. I used to have to do that on the wire. With the wire. So I was doing that and I was just like, you know what? This shit is dope. It's really dope. It's creative.

I imagine it's immersive because that's what Top Boy was and The Wire is. It immerses you into somewhere that you're not from. And we really show, like, I imagine it's immersive because that's what Top Boy was and The Wire is. It immerses you into somewhere that you're not from. I understand it does that. And we really show different parts of South London and the energy, the parties.

You see so much more than what you would normally see from a show like this. You really see a new world if you're not from the UK. And big up to Nando's because I love him. Big up to Nando's because I love him.

Once again, man, thank you and your crew for coming out, man. We appreciate that. We want everybody to go out there and watch Supercell. You know what I mean? I'm going to watch Supercell this weekend. I'm going to tweet you because I see you on Twitter. Yeah, I'm outside. I'm outside

with that on Twitter right now. I'm telling you personally, I'm a movie buff. If you know me, I'm outside. I'm outside with that on Twitter right now. I'm telling you personally, I'm a movie buff. If you know me, you know that. I stay home all day. I watch movies. That's what I do.

I stood, for two days, I stood home and watched this shit. And I did not lose track of time. I knew time was moving. No, he hit me. He hit me.

He's like, yo, this shit is dope. You know what I'm saying? He hit me. That's it. That's it. Yeah, he did. I saw a sick tweet from someone saying

i've watched supercell all night i start work at six it's currently seven i regret nothing that was like the illest tweet i read so that a lot of things like that i appreciate it yeah yeah i appreciate it and this is how i know like remember how i told you i said black panther i said bob molly and then I said Supercell. Yeah. That's dope, bro. To be next to those is amazing. The whole month that I watched Bob Marley, I swore I was Jamaican.

Oh, so now you're a superhero? No, now he's British. He's a British superhero. Now he's writing the finales. Now he's writing them. You saw he's trying to use his eyes. He's trying to do it Now he's trying to

You don't know You don't know What the eyes is You gotta watch it Do you know what the eyes is It's not Excuse me It's not Christian Mack

Yeah but thank you man Nah don't man Anything else you wanna say To the fans Before we get about it Nah man Just to echo what you said If you ain't seen Supercell

It's not too late You can still watch it now And if you like it Spread the word Cause we're still trying To run up the numbers man so big up man yes thank you two for having me man thank you for being my love man so yeah don't yes thank you so get one day you don't know come on you don't know you don't know but you don't know what I'm saying. I don't know what I'm saying. You know I'm dyslexic. I'm dyslexic. I'm dyslexic.

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