Drink Champs - Episode 428 w/ Uncle Luke
Episode Date: September 20, 2024N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legendary, Uncle Luke!Drink Champs Alumni, Uncle Luke joins us once again to share the most craziest stories you can ...imagine.Uncle Luke shares stories from the early 2 Live Crew days, the impact they made on music and the influence they had on their fans and much much more!Lot’s of great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise for Uncle Luke!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more: 🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This is Drink Champs motherfucking podcast, where every day is New Year's Eve.
It's time for Drink Champs.
Drink up, motherfuckers.
What a good be, homies.
What a good be.
This is your boy N-O-R-E.
What up?
It's DJ E-F-N.
And this is military, crazy world, drink champs, yappy yowl.
Make some noise!
And what I tell you, this man fought for us.
I mean that.
This man is like, he is an icon.
He is a legend.
When you bring up hip-hop and you bring up
shaking
that thing music,
he's number one.
He's put it on for the South. He's put it on
for the whole world.
He's went from Doodle Brown
to sitting with the VP
of the United motherfucking States.
And again,
we here
to give him his flowers.
And so I want to make some noise
and I want to give him his flowers
off top.
Let's give him his flowers off top.
Thank you.
Thank you.
You know,
the last time you was on the show,
we started a tradition.
We started a tradition.
So we wanted to... I appreciate that. We started a tradition. So we wanted...
I appreciate that.
We wanted to give you your flowers
and tell you what you mean to hip-hop
because you fought for us.
So that means that this show,
with our vulgar language
and our vulgar behavior...
We wouldn't be here.
Which means we wouldn't even be here
if it wasn't for motherfucking...
I'm here!
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Now, off-top, right?
You know, we were so excited to get you, shit. Now, up top, right, you know,
we were so excited to get you, right?
And I'm going to do Habiki.
So, we were so excited to get you.
So, what we do, we got a tradition,
is we play the music.
So, I played the music in the neighborhood I lived at.
And I didn't realize, like, how crazy it was.
Three white neighbors came out out and we're sitting there
and he goes hey
I was like oh shit
it was the first time I was like maybe you should turn it down
a little bit
what I'm saying is
back then what made you even
take the chance of like
making that type of music like
cause you was the first
yeah well you know first off thanks for allowing me to come back no no thank you of making that type of music? Because you was the first. You was the first. Yeah.
First off, thanks for allowing me to come back.
No, no.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you, man.
You know, I'm a big fan of the show. Oh, thank you.
Appreciate that.
I follow you guys on all social media,
and I love what y'all be doing.
Appreciate that.
And how y'all been doing.
And just like you say, y'all ain't got big time.
Yes, yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's right.
That's right.
We were doing good. No, we wasall done got big time. Yes, yes. We was in the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right, that's right. We was in the...
We was doing good.
Nah, we was good.
We was good.
Y'all done got big time and shit.
So I was like, okay, hold on.
You've already got big time.
One day, but then I appreciate y'all having me.
Hell yeah.
But to answer the question, man, you know, I was a DJ.
Right, right.
You know, first of all, you know, ghetto style DJs.
You know, Is spending DJing around
here, doing parks, doing
dances, doing high school dances,
skating rinks and all the whole shit.
Basically,
we would start bringing down hip hop
artists.
It was a guy named Tiny Head. He brought
Jekyll and Hyde down
the first time. Then when we saw him doing
that with his DJ group group then I started bringing down
dudes like T-Rock and
Mantronics and all kind of stuff like that
artists like that I mean Divine
Sounds you name it and so
I ended up
you know I
was embedded into the New York
culture of hip hop
and had a clear understanding of what
it was all about.
You know, it was the stickers.
It was the breakdancing.
It was the whole style, you know, that was going on.
So I'm like, okay, you know, end up with 2 Live Crew.
They came down and they didn't have a label.
They were on with Cola Records, the same label that Ice-T and Ice Cube and all of them.
They came out of L.A. from L.A., right?
Because he told me something today. He said 2 Live Crew came out of L.A. from L.A., right? Because he told me something today.
He said two live crew came out of L.A.?
Yeah.
That messed me up.
Yeah, Mr. Mix was the only one from Miami.
No, none of them.
None of them, Mr. Mix?
No, Mr. Mix from San Bernardino.
Oh, I thought Mr. Mix was the one from Miami.
Yeah, no, no, no.
He's from San Bernardino.
Oh, so none of them.
And Paul said, Paul wouldn't let this argument drop.
He said one of them is from New York.
Two of them from New York.
Oh, Paul, you won the argument.
Paul, you won the argument.
I can't believe he know.
Brother Marquis is from Rochester.
And Fresh Kid Ice is from where?
From Brooklyn.
Rest in peace to both of them, by the way.
Yeah, rest in peace to both of them.
You know what's crazy?
Me listening to the two-file crew back then, all I could see is, I thought it was all Miami.
I couldn't see LA, none of that.
So when you said that to me
outside
I was like
get out of here man
so yeah
how does that go from LA
to over here to you
so they were in the military
right
that's what they meant
they all
they all met in the military
before it was a
another young man in the group
it wasn't Marquise
Marquise was in Alabama
at the time
it was another dude
named Uri Vila
so you had
two sides of the record. So you had two sides
of the record.
You know, you had Beatbox,
which was a kind of dance song
that I spent down here,
got hot.
And before you know it,
you don't start bringing them down.
Then the other side
was Revelation.
Revelation was more
like a conscience song.
So if you can imagine,
two live crew
was probably one of the,
you know,
one of the original
conscience song groups. And so, you know one of the original conscience song uh
groups and so you know when they came down they were like yo we ain't got no label we trying to
do this and i'm i'm promoting shows i want to be like al hayman you know i ain't trying to be
no damn record executive so at the end of the day i was like okay well let me i know some record
companies around here let me hook y'all up and then everybody was like hell no they don't do
no hip hop
in the South.
You tripping.
You know,
they were doing dance music,
like Trenia and stuff like that.
So the bass music
wasn't that back then?
No, no, it wasn't.
It was early, early.
Yeah, this was early.
I mean, you know.
There was just the sound,
the DJ crews.
Okay.
Yeah, just us DJing.
So I ended up,
make a long story short,
I ended up like,
fuck it.
I'll put the record out.
So then it was like, we had this song, we had this little thing that we used to create dances in the dance.
We had one dance called Ghetto Jump, where everybody, we used the Wild Wild West theme and everybody ghetto jumped.
And then they would jump.
And then we had another dance called Throw the D.
So they would throw the D, you know, the guys would throw their dick. They, so they was going to ask,
throw the D,
you know,
the guys were throwing the D.
They were throwing the D.
Yeah,
yeah.
And so what ended up happening,
I was like,
okay,
well,
fuck it.
We'll put the record out.
I'll create,
we created a dance and everybody was doing it anyway
because we were,
we were doing skating rings.
Before the Pac Jam?
Yeah.
We called it the Pac Jam Skating Ring. Oh, okay. So I made the money from the Pac Jam to. Before the Pac Jam? Yeah. We called the Pac Jam skating rink.
Oh, okay.
So I made the money from the Pac Jam to then buy the Pac Jam.
So we had a skating rink.
We did Carroll City saying hi.
Then we did the skating rink.
Then we did Out of Powder.
So we were doing these parties.
And then Sunday, we would do African Square Park.
So we were in the front of like almost 10,000 people on a weekend.
Right.
So we would be able to break a record.
And they all moved over here then, I'm assuming, at that point.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so at the end of the day, we just, you know, I said, fuck it, we'll do this song
right here.
And then we did Throw the Dick.
Right.
And then that shit was hot.
Right.
And it went crazy.
And that was like the first dirty song.
Right.
And then after we did Throw the Dick then it was that was the days
of answer songs so the
motherfucking mob told me hey look here man
you know I was taking
the record around it had one distributor
and one distributor was like yo
you gotta I was like give me my
money for this fucking record I ain't trying to
be in this shit and they were like yo
for you to get your money for that
record you gotta give us another record.
So then that was the days
of Anson Records.
You had Roxanne Shantae,
real Roxanne.
So everybody was doing
Anson's back then.
So I ended up,
I got my little niece,
my little cousin.
I was like, yo,
you got to do a fucking song.
She ain't no fucking rapper.
No, we're going to write
this shit.
You're going to go in there,
which is the group
and quit.
And she went in there and did Throw the P, Throw the Pussy.
Oh, the response.
Yeah, so we did a response song.
Okay, give me my money for this shit here.
This shit hot right here.
And so that's how I ended up.
And then I was like, well, you know, this street hustle shit ain't really getting it.
I need to be hustling some motherfucking records.
So at the end of the day, then, that's when I flipped over to doing that.
And we just went from song to song
and back then, singles was
hot. And I was like, fuck that shit.
Because the thing is,
we had down here, what people
don't realize in Miami, which
helped me out a lot, was
every major record label
would press their records down here to go to uh columbia
and all over the islands mastering guys were out here exactly so you had record companies here
but then it would they were they were cutting the records and there were uh the cassettes and the
records and all for dirt cheap yeah so you damn like you, like, you know, I would get, this right here
cost me 21 cents
and the cassette
was costing me
30 cents.
So I'm like,
oh shit,
I need to hustle
this shit.
And then I was like,
fuck these singles
because the industry
was like,
yo,
it's all about singles.
I'm like,
hell no,
we're going to do an album
and then I'm going to
cut the price on the album
and I'm going to cut the single
right because you
was the record label
yeah I was the record label
and you know
we was
we just pumping this shit
all across the country
I mean
it was
it was a great time
and one of the first
sorry but one of the first
independents in hip hop
yeah
if not the first
yeah no doubt about it
like you guys
and maybe Rap-A-Lot
was around the same time
no they came out after us
after
yeah everybody everybody basically was out there and that's what people you know people don't give us the credit first. Yeah, no doubt about it. Like you guys maybe Rap-A-Lot was around the same time? They came out after us. After? Yeah, everybody
basically was out there. And that's
what people, you know, people don't give us the credit
for we created hip-hop in the South.
No question about it. It wasn't
nonexistent. God damn it.
It wasn't, you know, you had
you know, you had, I mean, you talk to
Baby, Baby will tell you, you trying to sign up with us.
We signed an artist from New Orleans named
Bustown. Okay, yeah, I heard the story. We signed MC Shadi out of Atlanta. You know, so it wasn't maybe I'll tell you you trying to sign up with us we signed an artist from New Orleans named Bus Down you know we signed
MC Shadi
out of Atlanta
you know so
it wasn't
they didn't have
companies
you know
nowhere in the south
we went to
fucking Houston
I signed up
H-Town
you know so
it was
you know it was a lot of
you know okay
how the fuck we do this
and then I was trying
to fucking sign up
Master P
when he had the Ice Cream Man song.
P told me, nah, I'm trying to do what the fuck you do.
Hell nah, I see what you're doing, how you're moving.
Which was mad respect.
And that wasn't popular back then,
especially a black man owning his own label.
So what made you, I know you had music
that was explicit and all that, but that's still that boss mentality So what made you, I know you had music that was explicit
and all that,
but that's still
that boss mentality.
What made you say?
You had to
because you had to
because there were
no record companies
in Miami.
I mean,
it was dance record companies.
You,
saying you got a hip hop
record from Miami
is like,
you tell the A&R
motherfuckers.
Especially back then,
right.
They were like,
hell no,
we ain't doing that.
You know,
it was all,
either you were from
New York and Philly was, you know, doing their thing and California was doing their thing.
And even at that time, you know, most of those guys, N.W.A. and everybody else, Egyptian Lovin', all them, Dre and all them, they was on Mercola Records, the same distribution company that Two Live Crew was on.
Right.
All them dudes was over there.
And at one point you had a relationship with Atlantic, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So when I did Band in the USA, I was like, okay, I want to blow this shit up.
Right.
And then, you know, okay, I need the big machine.
Okay.
And then I cut the deal with Atlantic.
That was a real interesting deal because, you know, I went in there.
I went in there. I went in there.
I mean, it was Tooch Aaron.
Sylvia Rome was running it.
Sylvia Rome.
It was crazy because Doug Morris brought me in the office.
It was me, Craig Cowman, and Jimmy Iovine.
Wow.
And it was all three of us.
One was doing music and the other one,
uh,
uh,
Craig had a house label in Chicago.
What?
And so we all was sitting in the fucking office and,
and Doug Morris office.
Uh,
and he was like,
y'all,
y'all are three next motherfuckers.
They're going to be running the music industry.
So before Interscope,
this is before all that. And it was like, y'all three motherfuckers is going to be running the music industry. So before Interscope? Before Interscope.
Before all that. And it was like,
y'all three motherfuckers is going to be running this shit.
I'm sitting up in there like,
okay. I'm sitting back like, y'all are going to be the industry.
You know, like,
I leave out the office.
I say, not knowing what was going
on because, again, I'm from Miami. I'm not
too familiar with the music business, you know, like that.
Like, you know, I was impressed.
You know, my lawyers was trying to explain to me who these big time dudes was.
They had this big old $5 million check that they put in the front of me.
I'm a street dude.
I'm like, what the fuck is this money finna do to you?
Right?
So I'm looking at the money like this.
But my first instinct was like, you know, hold on.
Before I do this deal, I got to go around there and holler at Sylvia Rome.
Right.
And so I said, I need to get her a blessing.
Now, mind you, they got this $5 million check sitting there.
And I'm like, no, I need to go holler at this black lady.
But actually, was Sylvia at Electric at that time
or she was at Atlantic?
She was at Electric.
Oh, Electric.
Okay, all right, cool.
Because we were on Electric Atlantic.
Yeah, but they were doing the marketing.
Oh, okay, okay.
For everybody.
They controlled everybody.
And so I looked at her like as if she was the Don. You know was the, the, the Don, you know what I'm saying?
I got to go run this past her. Cause I don't want to be, you know, I'm already making money.
I don't want to be on this label unless she give me a blessings. And so, you know,
I went around there and it was looking, you know, a lady was looking kind of crazy.
She was like, nah, nah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then at the end of the day, it wasn't really true.
She wasn't trying to give me her blessing. Oh, wow.
It was all about fucking us.
Wow.
You know, so we signed up, did the deal.
We did the Band in the USA album over there.
You know, we did that.
Actually, what you probably don't know,
that was the first downloaded song ever in the history of music.
Really?
Yeah.
Because what happened is
I told him,
I said,
look,
I want to put this record
out on 4th of July
at 12 o'clock.
So I'm assuming
that we're going to
ship this motherfucker.
Right.
Right?
Wow.
We're going to ship the record
to us.
And it's going to be
a real-life story.
And we're going to tell
the record companies,
not the record companies,
we're going to tell
the radio station
don't play the record
until 12 o'clock.
Right. You know, because it was, for station, don't play the record until 12 o'clock.
Because for me, it was an emotional record.
We had to win through all the bullshit.
And we wanted to play it on that time.
And they were like, yo, we got a better way to do this shit.
And I was like, what?
And they said, download.
They were like, we're going to download it.
I'm like, huh?
Download it? What year was this?
I got to give you the year. This was pre-Nap Download it? What year was this? I got to get the year.
This pre-Napster even?
This was pre-Napster.
It wasn't Napster.
It wasn't even heard of.
So how would they convince you
that this is something
that the masses
are even going to know?
Because he's saying
he wanted to drop it
at that time.
I know, but how do you know
the masses even have
access to that?
These motherfuckers
had access to the computer
where they downloaded
that motherfucker
to every radio station.
Oh, to the radio station.
Yeah, the radio station.
My thing was
I wanted the record
to be on the PD desk
and then everybody
collectively played
that bitch at 12 o'clock
on 4th of July.
That's crazy.
And they say,
oh, we got a better way.
Wow.
We're going to download
this motherfucker.
So if you go look
through the history books,
it says that that record
is the first downloaded record
in the history of uh music period right
so so let me ask you right one of the pluses pros and cons rather of having this job is
people come up to me and no matter where i'm'm at, airports, you know, they just think I'm just drinking 24 hours.
Ah!
You got to take a shot.
Do people come up to you and twerk all day?
Like, do the real!
Do people do that to you?
The dudes come to me and say, Luke, where them hoes at?
I can be with a girl, you know.
Or a lady. They'll be like, Luke, you know, or a lady,
and be like, Luke, what am I up to?
Bro, you see me with a mother, a fine-ass girl,
what do you mean?
And then if you're in the wrong place,
the girls go to like, Luke, is this qualified here?
I'm like, God damn, I'm here with my son.
Like, what the fuck are we doing right now
yeah I mean
I live a beautiful life
cause you like when I look back at it
I feel like you invented
the twerk
I'm mad at that
fucking word
I'm mad at that fucking drink
drink comes out and do the song
twerking and and everybody didn't change
the motherfucking song.
I'm like, hold on,
change the dance.
No, it's booty shaking.
Yeah, it's pop that pussy.
Doodle Brown.
It's all three of them.
They got three motherfucking things.
That's what it is.
It's ass shaking.
I took enough heat for that shit's ass shaking And we took
I took enough heat
For that shit
You know we took heat
Down in the south
Because you know
You had
You know you had
Motherfucker like Method Man
And Red Man
They get on the record
What's up dog
What's up dog
Oh man
They do booty music
Them niggas down there
In the south
Do booty music
That booty shit
Them country ass niggas
Do booty music
I'm like I didn't take You goddamn record So now everybody What's up? Do booty music. That booty shit. Them country ass niggas do booty music.
I'm like, I didn't take you goddamn right.
So now everybody, all these damn girls want to shake their ass.
You want to change our shit to fucking twerking?
And they put the bitch in the dictionary.
Wait, so hold on.
Hold on.
You find that now.
That's crazy.
So twerking is a new word.
In the fucking dictionary.
But I didn't even know.
I thought, damn, you're right.
Because it was called, yeah, that's right.
Man, I'm like, man, booty shaking around here.
I'm like, hold on, man.
And something real quick.
You want to show them one album cover real quick? I thought we was going to hold off on that.
Where is this young lady?
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Yo, yo.
Oh, my God.
Yo.
Yo, you know you're not getting away with this now.
Yo.
Listen, listen.
Can a person...
That's a...
Listen, man.
Is that beautiful or what?
Yo, yo, yo.
That's a fucking worker arm.
Why you got to listen to these cousins up there like that?
Look at that.
Look at that.
Look at that right there.
Man, low mileage on the pussy.
But hold on.
There's no parental or there is no parental advisory.
And this is what everything that you went to court for.
This is after court.
This is after you win.
And you just want to throw it back in their face.
I can do whatever the fuck I want.
I was just pushing the fucking envelope.
They was fucking with me. I was like,
okay, I'm in court. I'm a couple million dollars into this shit right now.
Everybody coming after me. My
lawyer basically told me, say,
and by the way, we created
the sticker too, just so you know.
You created it? Yeah.
We'll get to that.
They're fucking with me.
I'm like, okay, y'all fucking with the wrong one.
You know, because I came up, I really, you know, my dad,
my dad Jamaican and my uncle Bahamian.
Wow.
And I used to live, I used to go back and forth to my uncle's house.
And so that, you know, them motherfuckers don't let you look at no cartoons
and you got to sit there and listen to Malcolm X tapes.
Right.
You got to read by H-Rap Brown and all this.
You know, the struggle, the real struggle way back then.
So I was like, y'all picked the right motherfucker to fuck with.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I already know everything goes in circles.
They always told me, yo, you're going to have invisible chains on you.
I'm like, what the fuck y'all mean?
Y'all niggas ain't, y'all ain't going to be free. You know, they're going to try invisible chains on you I'm like what the fuck y'all mean y'all niggas ain't y'all ain't going to be free
you know they're going to
try to lock your mind up
so I was always taught
on that
you know and everything
going circle
ain't black man
with any power
you know and that's
the readings
and everything
that I was in
they had me reading up on
was any black man
in power
they're going to
either kill you
or put you in jail
you know if you got
a voice in
you're going to be able
to move people
in a certain type of way.
So then I looked at myself like,
shit,
I'm not Marcus Garvey
or H. Rap Brown
or one of them dudes,
but I'm looking at it like,
man,
I'm doing this music
from down here.
I'm not affiliated
with no company.
You know,
I don't got no muscle behind me.
You're battling a system.
I'm battling the fucking system.
All right.
Now, how did this Snoop Dogg, Dr. Dre beef initially happen?
Oh, shit.
How did it start?
And mind you, we've talked about this the first time, but we're going to circle back
to that every day again.
Snoop Dogg, to this day right now, that's my dog.
Yeah, I love the picture of you, Snoop, and Suge.
I think it was at a Miami game.
Yeah.
That's when we squashed the beef.
Yeah.
What was it?
It was at a Super Bowl.
Just imagine.
It was San Francisco and Cincinnati.
Right.
And I tell the president of the Dolphin about this story.
I was like, do you know, it could have been the biggest shootout.
Right.
In Super Bowl history and that motherfucker. Right, right. I was like, do you know it could have been the biggest shootout in Super Bowl history in that motherfucker?
Right, right.
I mean, you had everybody.
Right.
You had Jimmy.
Right.
And all the bad guys.
You know,
you had New York
and Miami
and it was like
some of us
that couldn't get in the room
and it was like,
yo, we need to have
a conversation
about this shit here.
But it started off,
I mean, How it start? The but but it started off i mean how it started the beat the it started i i said something and i said something in an interview
and then snoop them you did dre at first right it was just dre yeah and then snoop the young snoop
he was young snoop it was young snoop and so i i did Dre, and then Snoop came, and that's when Snoop wasn't popular then,
and they did the song.
What, Deep Couple?
No, no, no, it was Dre Day.
Dre Day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dre Day was the record that came back.
Yeah, so they did the song, Dissin' Me.
But why'd you diss Dre in the first place?
I don't know what the fuck was going on.
Y'all smoking that weed.
I'm a guy.
And I'm fucking half Jamaican, so you can think I'm.
So you don't even remember where the shit started at.
Started at right now.
This motherfucker got a whole bunch of money.
God damn.
Because it's an honor to have you, brother.
And we had to give you
And we had to give you
Your flowers man
Appreciate it
Appreciate it
Appreciate it
So we ended up
With the damn
We ended up
I dissed them
They dissed me
And then we did
Cowards in Compton
Right
Wow
We did the
Cowards in Compton
Song
They had Originally they did You know The Snoop Diss And then we did the Cowards and Compton song they had
originally
they did
you know
the Snoop diss
and then we did
our diss
our diss obviously
wasn't as popular as theirs
but it was popular
down here
how mad was you
when you realized
Snoop wasn't from Compton
yeah
I was like
what the fuck
Cowards and Compton
just sprayed in the
I was like what the fuck that's what Compton Just sprayed in David Right Oh yeah
I was like
What the fuck
That's what
You know
Yeah
That's what
Fucked me up
Because I thought
Everybody
You know
I didn't realize
He was from
Long Beach
Right
Right
It was like
God damn
I was supposed to be
We were supposed to add
Long Beach
In this motherfucking song
Right
But no
We had the whole
God damn
West Coast after us
Then
So at the end
At the end of the day
We did
We did the beef
We did the songs
back and forwards.
You know, again, again.
You guys saw each other though, right?
At Jack the Rapper
or something like that?
Yeah, we saw each other
at Jack the Rapper.
I went to Jill,
who's Jack the Rapper's daughter,
who's really hosting the event
because Jack had to go.
Totally, right?
And I was like,
yo, y'all got to chill
with this shit.
We got to meet.
We need to meet
because the shit going to go from zero to 100.
You know, because all the tough guys from Miami had to migrate it to Atlanta.
And they was running the dope game in Atlanta.
You feel me?
And so at the end of the day, you know, they had to take the game up there.
And so, you know, again, the life before me was a tough guy.
You know, it was...
So I know a whole bunch of them dudes.
You know, and it was kind of crazy
because, you know,
the beef was going back and forth.
It became some real serious shit
because, again, dudes who I came up with,
they really own that shit.
And so they didn't know how to handle that.
And at the end of the day you know one day I we was up there getting ready to go to Jack the Rapper and then knock on the door like 12
motherfuckers from the crib who I used to roll with like yo we here we got a
problem you know what I'm saying like what the fuck y'all motherfuckers here for weenie
cause they knew Def Road was there too.
Exactly.
So somebody,
you know,
one of the boys,
hey man,
look,
and so they end up
coming in before,
you know,
I'm trying to cool
these dudes off.
Right.
Because they wanted to,
you know,
these motherfuckers,
they wanted to do
something to everybody.
So at the end of the day,
we cooled it off
to a degree
where it was just a fight.
It wasn't really, you know, ain't nobody died.
But it was bad, you know, because then it became all the dudes who were from Miami.
It was in Atlanta.
Then we all ended up at the hotel.
And then they tore up the hotel, and people got stabbed.
I don't know.
Allegedly.
Allegedly. Allegedly.
It was a lot of things going on.
And people had to end up getting on a plane and going back home.
But at the end of the day, like I say, like I tell people all the time,
we went through those situations.
But y'all got through, man.
Yeah.
Y'all got past it.
Right now, we got past it.
And that's why I try to tell these young dudes
who are out there,
you know, they're making these records,
you know, and they going about that shit for real.
You know, it's a lot of real shit
going on in these streets right now.
And I tell them, look, man,
don't, you know, if you're doing good music,
just do good music.
Leave that shit alone.
So we all learn from that. You know, me, Snoop, you know, we you're doing good music, just do good music. Leave that shit alone. So we all learned from that.
You know, me, Snoop.
You know, we all became friends.
Suge and all that shit like that.
You know, we ended up, it was like, look, we got squashed and shit.
And that's how we ended up at the stadium.
Oh, that was the first day you got squashed?
I thought you had squashed it off the stage.
No, no.
It was hanging out already.
It became your-
That day.
Yeah, because they had another Jack the Rapper the out already. It became, yo. That day. Yeah, because they had
another Jack the Rapper
the next year.
It was in Orlando
and I guess they brought
a whole bunch of motherfuckers
and they kind of
tore that motherfucker up.
Right.
And that was the end
of Jack the Rapper.
But then it was like,
yo, let's sit down.
So, you know,
I ended up linking with Shug
and we ended up saying,
okay, I'm going to welcome
y'all down here
for the Super Bowl.
You got San Francisco. And then we'll sit down and chop it up saying, okay, I'm going to welcome y'all down here for the Super Bowl. You got San Francisco.
And then we'll sit down and chop it up
and work it out.
But then it wasn't really about working it out
with just me
because you had this whole New York thing.
So you had, just imagine in this fucking room,
you had New York gangsters in the room and it was us and then it was them.
And I'm like, yo, we're going to do this shit in the peaceful way.
In between the East Coast, West Coast.
Yeah, it was in between all this shit.
So that's adding on top of that.
Yeah.
So it was like, hey, look, let me just bring everybody to the table.
And then we all went in the room and we, you know, motherfuckers had words and shit.
You know, and we say, okay, we're going to squash this shit.
And that's how I kind of, it kind of deadened.
That's why you see the picture of me and Snoop.
And if you look on the back, you see dolphins on the wall.
That was in the damn dolphin suite at the Super Bowl of Cincinnati and San Francisco.
What would life would have been like if you had a chance to speak to Pac and Biggie?
I did.
Like together in the same room.
I tried to get them together. I mean, I would speak to both of them separately.
Separately.
Because, again, you know, Pac was my guy also
you know
when he was
with Digital Underground
they would do shows
together
you know
me and him
would always end up
in the room
vibing and shit
talking about
all kind of shit
you know
largely black history
you know
Panthers and shit
because I wanted
to pick his brain
about his mom
you know
being in that and then same thing with Big about his mom, you know, being in that.
And then same thing with Big.
Big would come down, you know, to Miami and chill at my condo, you know, with a bunch
of naked women and shit.
Yeah.
He always went, hey, him and Hun got stuck in the fucking elevator.
Him and Hun?
Damn, they got stuck in the elevator.
They got stuck in the elevator. They got stuck in the elevator.
That was the funniest shit.
So we, you know,
but me and him was down like that.
I mean, you know,
and that's how, you know,
we end up,
anytime I would go to New York,
I would hang out with Big.
We did records together
and shit like that.
And the same thing with Pop.
You know, Pop got out of jail.
I went and interviewed him, you know,
at the Suge Night Club in
Vegas. 662.
You know, and most people were like,
yo, them niggas gonna set you the
fuck up. You know, you're already not
eating the beef.
Your mother was like, them niggas gonna set you up.
Nah, we going in that motherfucker.
It was me.
Here's the crazy part about it.
It was me,
Trick Daddy,
and Moose Adi.
So Trick Daddy
wasn't even out yet.
It was before Scarred.
Before Scarred.
Before Scarred.
Yeah.
Trick Daddy just got out of jail.
He's staying with me
at the condo.
You know,
he fucking all the girls
at the,
at the goddamn beauty. You know, fucking all the girls at the goddamn
beauty school downstairs.
But he was,
so we,
it was like,
you know,
I don't want him
to go back to jail
because he just got out of jail.
So it was like,
no, fuck that shit.
Fuck that shit, dick.
I'm going with you too.
You know,
and Shane,
most people are like,
yo, I'm going,
we going together.
So we went to go tape an interview, excuse me, with them at the 662 Club.
That's why if you ever see any clips of that interview.
Wait a minute.
So you're telling me Trick Dabby, who has all this thug music, title.
I believe all of the titles of his album has thug in it.
I love it. A lot of them.
It's a possibility if Tupac would have fronted, he would have went.
Listen.
I'm just asking.
It's a possibility.
We would know.
Hey, listen.
We didn't go in there without no tools.
That's what I'm saying.
But it was crazy.
It was crazy. I mean, but we it was crazy. It was crazy.
I mean, but we went in there.
It was peaceful.
You know, motherfuckers was watching their back and all that in the club.
We eventually did the interview with him because he at first just got out of jail.
And that's when you see him, you know, I'm doing the interview.
I'm trying to squash the beef also.
But shit, he just went from zero to a thousand.
He started talking about, you know,
faith and all this and the girls and all this.
And he just was on 12 up in that motherfucker.
Who were you doing the interview for?
For the peep show.
Oh, for your show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Yeah, that shit was, that was wild. Yeah. Very suddenly. You didn't see the peep show? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm in the ballroom. That's in my nose, wow. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, that shit was, that was wild.
Yeah.
Very suddenly.
You didn't see the peep show?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hold on, that's in my notes.
Chill, we getting, we getting.
Hold on, that's in my notes.
Okay.
Hold the fuck up.
Very suddenly we get people that knew Pac,
but, and when we do get people that know Pac,
we only get people that knew one version of Pac,
like the digital underground or just the death row Pac. What was the difference between you, when you first of Pac, like the digital underground or just the death row Pac?
What was the difference between you when you first met Pac?
Like I imagine in the digital underground days to the Pac that, you know, you know.
Right. Became the superstar. Yeah.
Or was it even even a difference?
It was really it it was when he became being digital underground days, he was more laid back.
You know what I'm saying?
Because it was about Humpty.
Right, right.
So he was-
He was more of a supportive role to digital underground.
He was one of the guys.
It was no different.
It was, he was no different.
You know, and that's why I always, when I'm around the superstars, and then I look at the other people who are around.
Right.
And then those ones who are soaking up the information, getting the information, they're going to be that guy.
I mean, same thing with Jay-Z.
Right.
You know, Big told me he next.
Oh, wow.
Right?
And he was just hanging out with Big.
He was one of the guys in the crew.
Wow.
I was like, I'm thinking he's getting ready to save one of the guys in the crew. Wow. I was like, I'm thinking he'd get ready to save one of the
junior mafia guys.
Wow.
You know,
and so,
so I would always gravitate
to them young guys
who would be
in the background.
You saw something
for sure.
Yeah, yeah.
I knew he had that it.
You know,
and very few people,
you know,
you could see that.
And so I'm looking at him
and I'm vibing
and he really want
to be in the business.
A lot of people don't realize them guys would be hanging out,
soaking up the information. They ain't
really getting no money. They really
want, they really, you know, they really
putting their network in the business.
Whether they roadie or whether
they just there or trying to
find their way.
And so when he became
this superstar
and he got big,
then he would come down again, hang out
with me, go to some of my
parties and shit.
Then it became, versus
this quiet dude, it became
like George Jefferson.
That Napoleon Complex. He had the big
chest. He'd walk like this.
You know, the little short dude. He had it going on, which was good. He had the big chest. He walked like this. And, you know, a little short dude.
And he had it going on,
which was good.
He wasn't really,
Pop was never really
a dude that
would shit on nobody
or talk bad about nobody.
He just had,
you know,
he would feel,
he'd just feel himself,
you know,
like that.
So those were the two different,
the two different people.
And even when I,
like I said,
when I did that interview
with him in Vegas, it was the same thing. And even when I, like I said, when I did that interview with him
in Vegas, it was the same
thing. You know, he
was feeling some kind of way
just getting out of jail.
You know, he was feeling,
you could tell the build up was
about
what potentially became
the fucking beef.
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Do you ever watch that Jay-Z clip you got?
What?
Oh, you was going, we going to reenact that right now?
No, no, no.
I don't think we got the prompt for that.
Goddamn.
Can we get a girl?
With that type of money?
No, no, no.
You know me, Jay-Z.
We both marry men.
We both marry men.
Yeah, yeah. I know. I saw y'all. Yeah, yeah. My wife over there. Yeah, yeah. We both marry men. We both marry men. I know.
I know.
I saw y'all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My wife over there.
My wife over there.
Is that Boss Eddie?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
My wife over there.
My wife over there.
Hey, that's Boss Eddie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's right.
You've got to be here.
That's right.
Newcomer shit.
Newcomer.
Fuck that shit.
Yo, yo.
That is very funny.
We ain't doing no fucking bitches.
Y'all just talking about your pussy bollocks.
That shit was a wild shit.
That was another name for it.
Whenever now and then, I like to see, look at it, to see Jay-Z's uncomfortableness.
Oh, hey, man.
Because I've never asked you this, right?
Did he know that was going to happen?
No.
Okay, I knew it.
I knew it.
I described it.
Describe it.
Okay, tell the people.
Let me tell you.
When I did the Peace Show, right?
Uh-huh.
It was really about, it was, you know, I was like, I came up with this shit.
I'm like, I'm going to do a show because all these motherfuckers talking about sex and this
and all this wild shit on the record.
Now that I liberated everybody and made it okay for you to say what the fuck you want to say on the record, people just lose their mind.
Hockenellie, put it in your mouth.
That's right.
Hey, okay, we're going to interview you.
And we're going to have some girls sitting there ready to suck your dick.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
So you're really not keeping reals a whole lot different.
He's going to do an interview like,
yeah, hey, I can help you.
You made this song, put it in your mouth.
Okay, hey, sweetheart, come on in.
Put it in your mouth.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Let me get it.
Let me get it.
Hey, Aaron Hall.
Hey, Aaron Hall.
You say you freaking in R. Kelly.
Hell yeah, fuck that shit.
Well, eat your ass.
Whoa.
Right on the camera.
Yo, what's up, man?
Hey, Lil' Kim, you fucking making all these songs. The Lil' Kim one is epic, too.
Oh, the Lil' Kim one.
It's crazy.
She walks in there.
We got a whole harem going on.
We got everybody fucking each other and shit.
Lil' Kim walking up in there. She ain't got no titties and shit. And she's like, what whole harem going on. We got everybody fucking each other and shit. Kim walking up in there.
She ain't got no titties and shit.
She's like, what the fuck is going on with you?
Hey, hey, hey.
Hey, hey.
Go ahead.
I'm saying so.
I'm trying to
picture myself.
But Jay is a smooth
guy. He's always been smooth.
Smoother than my heart.
I've never seen him not smooth.
That's the only time I might have seen him a little uncomfortable.
So I wanted to always know for myself, like, did he know him?
You say you didn't know him.
So describe what happened.
So the thing is, again, Big say, you know, J ain't Big right now.
He said he ain't J.
Right.
And so Big was like, you know, hey, man, put my guy on the fucking show.
Right?
I'm just booking Jay-Z.
Oh, okay.
He wasn't J.
I don't think he had a record out or nothing.
Did you have this song with Big already?
The Busta Nuts joint?
Before, we probably did.
Probably did. So then it was like, man, put my homeboy on
on the show and all that, right? Jay was the first one that wasn't, had a big record. He had no records about doing nothing. You feel me? And so I'm like, okay, we're gonna interview him.
So then we ended up interviewing Jay. And so I'm like, okay, we're gonna set this shit up. I got
these two girls and then they gonna, you know, cause I always like, okay, we're going to set this shit up. I got these two girls and then they're going to,
you know,
because I always like
throw people's mind off.
Right.
You know,
so the girls
is eating each other out.
So if they're eating
each other out,
then I'm going to ask you
a question.
Like,
I'm looking at you
asking the question.
I get everything
because you ain't
going to bullshit me right now
because you distracted.
He's like,
Jay sitting up there like,
yeah, yeah, yeah,
everything.
Same thing with the rest of them.
Lil' Kim and all that,
yeah, did you fuck Biggie?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So he was sitting there.
I mean, it was fucking epic
because people,
I see that clip all the time, I'll be laughing.
And, you know, because I didn't
know it was that time
of the month with one of the girls.
Oh, shit. Oh, no, wait, wait, wait.
Wait a minute.
This is a collector.
Wait a minute.
No, the girl's face came up and it was red.
And Jay did it like that. And Jay did like that.
I'm like, whoa!
This wasn't a part of the goddamn
motherfucking script.
You know, if he got
whoa.
I was like, hey, I had to check myself.
I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
And you know, obviously,
she didn't know what was on her face.
The other girl did. And we had cut, cut obviously she didn't know what was on her face. The other girl did.
And we had cut, cut, cut, cut, cut.
Did that part air?
I don't remember that part.
If you really look at it.
It was not air on the videotape.
If you really look at it, you can see it.
Crazy.
Wow.
That was some wild shit.
I was like, man, when we cut, I was like, why would you do this right here?
Right.
When you know it's that time of month.
Right.
Oh, damn.
That was a bad scene.
Yo, you was wildin', dude.
Yeah, I wasn't ready.
I wasn't ready.
I wasn't ready.
You weren't ready for that.
I wasn't ready for that.
I did not know that.
You're like, okay, let me smoke another joint. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That fucked my notes up. I wasn't ready You weren't ready for that I wasn't ready for that I did not know that He's like okay You smoking that
Yeah yeah
And I'm like
That fucked my notes up
That fucked
Okay so look
You get ready to segue
Into some other shit
Yeah I'm going to get
Into something else
I said this last time
He was here
And I'm going to say
When How Can I Be Down
Came through
He had the boat parties
And first of all
The promo items
that he was giving out
and I brought it last time
that he was on the show
was these little view things
that you look through
and it was like a scene
the scene he's depicting
is scenes like that
the peep shows
the peep holes
and the little view
I still got them joints
and then you get on the boat
for How Can I Be Down convention
and it's chill
and the minute that shit
takes off from Bayside
I think it was Bayside right?
yeah yeah yeah
then the music starts
and the stripper's
coming out of nowhere.
And this shit is,
everything he described
is happening on the boat.
I think Red Alert
was one of the DJs at one time.
This shit was wild, man.
Wild.
So let me bounce around
just a little bit, right?
Because we've seen
the Freaknik documentary,
but I'm thinking about that.
Why?
Where's the Peep show documentary?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's it.
Because one thing about you, I was saying,
I would always say to other people,
like, Instagram wouldn't be alive.
Most artists wouldn't be alive back then,
if they had Instagram.
But the difference between you from everyone else
is you kind of, like, documented all your shit
with the peep show.
I documented all that shit, yeah.
So your freak was out in the open.
Right.
I had to do that because every city I go, like for instance, I went to South Carolina one time.
And, you know, they would say that I would have the girls on stage naked.
So then I was like, OK, fuck that.
I'm going to just start videoing all my shows and everything so people can actually see that I ain't got nothing to do with it.
Right.
You know, and I went to South Carolina one time and some girl from the military got on stage with my dancers.
My dancers made love to her and all that.
She ended up going back to the base talking shit.
The girl dancers? The girl dancers.
The girl dancers.
Okay, okay.
They were the bad guys.
Right, they were the bad guys,
the girl dancers.
Oh, yeah.
They were no Freaky Red.
Right.
Freaky Red was an animal.
She's on Love & Hip Hop, right?
No, no.
Okay.
My dancers can't be on shows like that.
Okay.
The X ones.
Okay.
Yeah, they can't, no, they can't, ones. Okay. Yeah, they can't know.
They can't know.
Okay.
They would pull out pearls
and shit out of their vagina
and have babies on stage.
Yeah.
Wait, tell me.
Wait, hold up.
And they was doing that shit
on the boat, too.
When you said have babies?
Yeah, they put a little
dog baby in them.
Oh!
Pick up bottles,
40 ounces,
or 32 ounces.
Yeah. There was a lot of shit going on. I had, 40 ounces or 32 ounces. Yeah.
It was a lot of shit
going on.
I had to get a hold
of myself.
Right.
Yeah, it was a lot
of things going on.
We were pushing
that envelope,
but...
To say the least.
I've never been like,
wait a minute,
what's going on?
The whole eight years
of this show.
So we would go
city to city
doing this shit.
And that's, again, that's how that whole Freaknik thing started.
When we went to Atlanta, it was a nice little party.
And we just went there and just turned the motherfucker out.
No different than Galveston.
Galveston was a nice college weekend.
Turned it out.
You know, we went to
Daytona Beach, same thing.
And so I documented all that.
I got all that footage.
What made you document this, though?
Out of safety for yourself?
Let me tell you.
Let me tell you.
It was...
I saw New Kids on the Block.
New Kids on the Block?
I never thought that was going to come out of here.
No, no, no. Fucking New Kids on the Block I never thought that was going to come out here no no
fucking new kids on the block
oh my god
it's your boy new kids on the block
they were doing
they were doing
backstage footage and selling it on
DVD
and on VHS
so I was like oh shit so Billboard
had a whole chart
and the chart was filled up with
artists doing backstage footage.
And I said, well, goddamn,
why don't I do some backstage footage?
You know, and then at that time,
Master P was doing his movies and shit.
And then I'm like, you know,
I could make a lot of money doing this shit.
Everybody always asks,
what the fuck happened this weekend on tour
you know
what happened next
and everybody asks
where the hoes at
where the hoes at
right
so I start documenting it
and this is before
Girls Gone Wild
you were the original
Girls Gone Wild
original
before that
he stole that shit
I don't know how you
didn't come here
no we made money
we made a lot of
fucking money
he should have
licensed it from you
exactly
you know he did
the white version of what I'm doing.
Fucking girl.
It went around
trying to act like he was cool.
You know how that shit go.
Oh, let me do. Oh, shit. I see some
shit. Let me try and do that and imitate
this dude. So at the end of the day, that's what
we were doing. So we were documenting it
and we were putting it out.
Like, we did the peep show.
I went to,
and this is why,
this is why the guy who used to run BET,
what his name?
He don't like me to this day.
Stephen Hill?
Stephen Hill hates my guts.
Wow.
Because?
Because he wanted to do the brown.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
No, my bad.
I don't know.
That was a sign of weird. That's my friend. It, whoa, whoa. No, my bad. I don't know. That was a...
That's not a wig.
That's my friend.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
Go ahead.
I might need a joint.
No, I'm okay.
No.
So BET had this network called Action Pay-Per-View.
And they weren't really doing nothing with it.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
So Playboy had...
Playboy had the dark, whatever. your place doing all the uncut videos and so i went to bob johnson at the time and say look i
let me put these peep shows on action pay-per-view you know how i own them so bt actually was the
one who's airing the peep show wow on the on the affiliate that they own oh it's affiliate right
people didn't know it was BET.
They own Action Pay-Per-View.
Right.
And so when I came in the big boardroom,
and that's when Steven had just got in there,
and Bob was like, fuck that.
I'm going to do this.
You can do this, Luke.
And I never got a video played on BET at that time,
so it was almost like a little beef
that I was doing that shit on there
but I owned the
peep shows and we would shoot them put them on
pay per view make a lot of fucking money
and then I just said okay fuck it
they sold the network
then I then created the freak shows
and that was me going
around to a caption
what we were doing
on tour
even BET uncut
they didn't play your
that was way after I think
I'm saying like they didn't play like
the throwback videos BET uncut no?
no
on pay per view on action pay per view
I was we programmed that
so what I did was I did the Lil' Kims, the Jay-Z's,
and all that stuff like that.
And then we added the uncut videos in it.
Because what I did was basically,
I know I want to get my videos played,
so I used the adult version of the lyrics
and then did the videos.
Like an explicit rap city?
In the club, yeah. And so I just took those videos and other people started doing the videos. Like an explicit rap city? In the club.
Yeah.
And so I just took those videos and other people
started doing their videos
with the uncut version of it
and putting it on there.
And so it was between us
and Playboy Channel
that was playing uncut versions.
Oh, okay.
Well, God damn it.
Let's praise him
for that.
I still can't imagine
the boardroom meeting
where you show
the first episode
like hey check this out guys
yeah
Stephen Hill was like
I hate this motherfucker
that's why it wasn't until
it wasn't until
Connie Johnson
became the president
when Connie ran the network
is when I got honored
I never was honored
until then
I was her first honoree.
It was like, they was shitting on me
ever since then.
There's always a woman that shows me
love.
Now, what happened to the Grammys that you didn't
go back to the Grammys for like 20 years?
Oh, fuck them.
What happened to the Grammys?
I just made up with them
fucking
20, 30 years later.
Okay.
I mean, it was crazy because I'm going through this shit.
I'm going to court.
I got three cases.
People think it was one.
It was actually three cases.
One, the record was deemed obscene.
The other one, we went to jail because we went and sung an obscene record.
And then the other one was the Roy Orbison
where I was going to the Supreme Court.
So it was three fucking cases.
That was for free speech.
All of them were intertwined.
Then I had this George Lucas fucking
suit because my name was
Luke Skywalker.
So I'm getting sued all over the fucking place.
damn, I just mentioned all of them.
I lost track of what you asked me.
See, I'm getting fucking old.
What's that I asked?
Let's go, Paul.
It's that fucking, yeah, the Grammys.
The Grammys.
So I'm going through all this shit.
I'm going to all these courts.
I'm fighting every motherfucking body.
And the Grammys invited me to the Grammys.
So I go to the Grammys.
I get dressed up.
I got my homeboy, Versace Neil.
God bless his soul.
He's in lockup again.
I love Neil.
Neil was Carlito in Carlito's way.
Right.
You know, my dog.
Neil, me and Neil, we go to the fucking awards.
We get on the plane.
We go there.
And then, you know, and then people get up on the thing.
And we want to take this moment because we know artists are going through, you know, this free speech and this censorship shit.
And we're not going to be allowed.
We're not.
We're going to support artists that get censored.
And I want to honor our artist today that we brought here.
And ladies and gentlemen, Madonna.
I'm like, Madonna?
Not this bitch.
Madonna?
What the fuck she did?
She ain't spent one day in motherfucking jail.
I just got out of jail for this shit
For music
For music
They put my black ass in jail
You know, I'm going to fight in every court in the land
Madonna?
Right?
So I'm sitting there like
Ain't this a bitch?
I had a Rodney Dangerfield moment
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like in shock
These motherfuckers talking about Madonna?
You know, no disrespect
Madonna, she a freak and everything.
But goddamn.
You know, Madonna.
And I'm sitting, man, bro.
Man, I got so motherfucking hot.
Man, I went and hung out in the city.
I was like, I ain't never going back to this shit ever in my life.
You know, and then later on, Betty Wright, God bless her soul.
You know, our queen here in Miami, she didn't say, Luke, you got to fucking, we got to sit down.
And so I sat down with some of the guys from the Grammy and, you know.
She was on the Grammy board.
She was on the board.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, and so she was like, yo, you know, we got to make this shit right.
And then I ended up going lobbying
for them in Washington DC and then I still was I ain't really fucking with
y'all like that and and so but I you know she say do something mama do it and
then I kind of chilled you know I really didn't get too active and then they came
to me with the 50. Yeah.
They were like,
look,
we want to do something special.
We understand,
you know,
we fucked up
way back then
and we want to make
this shit right.
And so,
they ended up
kind of,
you know,
giving me a little tribute
in the 50
and then saying
some good shit.
Right.
Because at first,
you felt like
they didn't include Miami
in the 50-year anniversary. Overall. Overall. Right. Because at first you felt like they didn't include Miami in the 50 year anniversary.
Overall.
Overall.
Yeah, overall, yeah, yeah.
Overall, I was hot.
I was hot because,
you know,
at the same time, man,
you know,
what we did
and what we stood for
and what we fought for
in the courts
and the amount of money
and the shit that we went through,
you know,
it's hip hop.
You know what I'm saying?
Absolutely.
You know, it was a part of hip hop, whether people like it or not.
And so everybody got all this 50 anniversary and 50 this, 50 that, and not to include Miami into the conversation in any kind of way.
You know, because what people didn't realize even way back then, and I told people, you know, I remember going to New Music Seminar saying, you know, hip hop is going to be global.
You know, because one guy was on the panel was like, yo, somebody mentioned 2 Live Crew.
And it was like, oh, that shit is a fad.
It's going to go away.
I forget the guy's name.
And then I stood up in the middle of this shit.
It was like 2,000 people at this hip-hop panel.
I was like, fuck that.
Hip-hop is going to be global.
Right.
You know, and one thing about the South, you know, once it catches on the South, then it's going to be bigger than just New York.
It wasn't no disrespect.
Right, right.
It was just going to be what New York created was going to be global in a major way. And so what I predicted was actually the truth
because, you know,
you then had P.D. Pablo
and you had the Swisher House.
You had all these guys
from all over the South.
You had, you know,
Three Six Mafia.
And then, you know,
the guys in New Orleans.
So it became what I envisioned it to be,
which people didn't realize it.
People didn't,
they didn't think it was going to be this serious,
which, you know,
which when you look at it all
and you say, okay, you got 50,
you know, we all,
we need to be in that conversation
because we created and started.
You've been out like 37 years, right?
How long?
Yeah, I lost count.
That's 37 or 50?
30, yeah. Next year, no, next year will be our 40th year anniversary.
40th year.
So, yeah.
It was like mid to late 80s for sure.
Mid 80s.
Yeah.
Next year, next year.
Miami belong, belong.
Good, man.
It's not.
Now this comes from, this comes from, from, from somewhere I can't tell you, but did you ever get hit on stage?
Yeah, I did.
What?
Shit, Rick James was eating pussy.
I had to do something.
I'm not reading what none of these guys said.
So when you saw Akineli, you was practicing what you preached.
Oh yeah, I always practice what I preach.
I'm not reading what none of these guys said.
I was in Japan.
Oh shit, the way he said it, that makes it bad. Yeah, I got hit in Japan oh shit the way he said it
that makes it bad
yeah I got hit in Japan
is that when you got
you in the hometown
that's when you got hit
yeah
that's being the means
my bad
my bad
my bad
my bad
they sued the shit
out of me
they sued the shit
out of me
hell yeah
that's a big movie
though
no yeah I did that and that's a big movie though no yeah
I did that
and that's
you know
and then I had
the settlement
was they gave me
$50,000
and told me
I had to do
a song on
New Jack City
soundtrack
which I was like
I'll take that
fucking settlement
all day
so we did the song
Dick in the Dust
on there
okay
my bad
wasn't ready
I got you boss
I got you I got you, boss.
I got you.
I got you.
Well,
it's a deep and in-depth
degree.
That's why
you got to go.
That's why
you have to come here.
I have to be here
because y'all
once I say it,
y'all be like,
oh shit, yeah.
I can't go to
a fucking Shannon shop
and have a conversation.
I can't have no conversation. I can't have no conversation.
I can't have that conversation now.
I mean, it'd be lost like a motherfucker.
Dick in the dust.
Blue Jack City, South Trot.
Hold the fuck on, you know?
I got to come here.
I got real hip hop.
Give it up.
Give it up.
Give it up.
Give it up.
Give it up.
I forgot the question.
It's in the dust.
Paul, help me out, Paul.
Huh?
I forgot what was the question.
We were just segwaying.
No, we were talking about the settlement.
It was head on stage.
It was in Japan?
Yeah, so the girls, we were touring.
We going to Osaka, Yokohama, Kyoto.
We just touring because I basically was staying in Japan
and going back and forth.
So we set up this big-ass tour.
That was, again, that's after I left 2 Live Crew and all that.
So I'm over there.
You know, I embraced the culture and all this shit. We doing these shows and all that. So I'm over there. You know, I didn't embrace the culture and all this shit.
We doing these shows and these venues,
me and JT Money, and every night,
I go to the front of the stage,
and the girls, the stage was like right here,
and they could touch you.
So all these fucking Japanese girls
were just grabbing my dick every night.
And they were doing
this right here.
I'm like,
so now you,
mind you,
we got like 12 dates
over there.
And so I'm like,
yo,
if they fucking
grab my dick again,
one of you motherfuckers
gonna come on stage
and give me some fucking head.
So then.
This was not planned out.
This was not planned out.
No.
This is random.
Okay.
We going through the shows
and they just grabbing all our shit.
It was me and JT Money, right?
I'm like...
So it was like, okay, you know, they rode by.
We rode by the jailhouse, and they was like,
them fucking Japanese jailhouses fucked up.
You know, like the real jailhouse.
I'm an escape artist.
No choice but to escape. You're signing up to jail?
I'm signing up to jail.
I just escaped from so many goddamn places you can imagine.
Right?
So I'm like, fuck that shit.
This is the last show.
The last show.
Somebody grabbed my shit up here on this stage.
I'm bringing them up on stage, and we're going to get our dicks sucked.
You're a cleric.
You're our.
And I'm hearing about Rick James got Tina Marie on stage eating a pussy.
Right?
So you know about that?
Man, y'all love me.
I had Instagram back then.
It was only one channel back then.
So I'm like, fuck that shit.
I got to do better than Rick James.
And then it ended up
being that show
and the girl
come up on stage
we got the girls
up on stage
they were
you know
they just started
giving us heads
wild
and that was
the last song
we didn't have
the energy to finish
we were completely drained.
We didn't know what to drink.
Oh, shit.
Oh, shit, Luke.
That shit ended up on national news and everything.
Over there or everywhere?
Oh, yeah.
You can find that shit online.
What was the news over there saying about it?
I'm curious about what did they say over there in Japan?
I don't know because I didn't go back.
I was like, I'm getting
the fuck out of here. It's like an international incident.
You ruined relations between
America and Japan.
Why have relations?
I did some
things. Y'all ask me questions.
I'm just realizing how much wild ass shit I did.
I'm sure there's more than we know.
Christ.
Because last time you was here.
I know.
She said, this lady looking like this motherfucker crazy.
I know I'm the reason you're here today, sweetheart.
I'm sure your dad was popping that pussy.
All y'all.
Oh, y'all my kids.
Yeah, I'm a daddy.
I got a G like me.
The last time we was here,
we didn't play this game.
Now, you don't have to take shots
if you don't want to.
You can take sips.
Are we playing quick time?
Oh, shit.
Or point somebody out and they'll take a shot
Somebody could be a designated
Alicia Keys
Alicia Alicia Keys, okay. Oh. I pulled up the wrong list.
Hold on. I'm on the wrong list.
Here's the rules. This is our drinking game.
We're going to give you two choices.
You pick one. We don't drink.
If you say
both or neither, meaning the PC
answer, like you don't want to answer it,
then we all drink.
So if I pick one?
If you pick one, nobody drinks. Nobody drinks.
Not you, not us. Don't pick one.
Because we all drink no matter what.
So if I don't answer,
but I always answer everything.
But this is a part, like people think it's a
verse, like oh we're saying pick one.
We just want to bring up people's names, any stories
you got with them. It's about bringing things up.
You've got stories with them.
It's not a negative thing.
We're not trying to diss anybody.
All right.
You got to do this because it's Miami.
All right.
First one.
Brother Marquis or Fresh Kid Ice?
Rest in peace to both.
Brother Marquis or Fresh Kid Ice?
Yeah.
You can say both.
You can say neither.
You can say one of them.
Neither.
Okay, we drink.
So we're drinking.
You can sip.
You don't have to take shots.
We're going to take shots.
Was the fallout that bad that you said neither?
No, I said neither because I didn't want to pick between the two.
Oh, you would say both if it's more.
Oh, both.
Yeah, yeah.
Both.
Both and neither.
We're drinking anyways, though.
Both.
It's the same thing, yep.
Yeah. Exactly. Both. Okay, neither. We drinking anyways, though. Both. Okay. It's the same thing, yeah. Yeah.
Exactly.
Both.
Okay, okay.
Yeah.
Trina or Carisha?
Oh, shit.
Trina.
Oh, okay.
She the first.
She's the original.
She's the original.
And Carisha would appreciate that.
I believe you're correct.
J Prince or Tony Draper?
Oh.
Both.
Okay.
All right, we're drinking.
Damn.
Y'all going hard up in here.
And any stories?
Remember, any stories you got with your buddy?
Man.
J Prince, my guy.
Right.
I would love you, J J Prince to have a label together
I yeah
that would be interesting J that's my guy
I'm for with J
right
Tupac or DMX
rest in peace to both
Tupac
you ever met DMX
yeah
that was that first interaction met DMX? yeah okay yeah how was that first interaction
with DMX?
it was uh
it was
it was like
we were at an event
like passing
so it wasn't really like
I'm vibing with him
or anything like that
right
we were at an event
chilling
okay
no limit or cash money?
whoa
god damn
yeah I'm gonna get my
CS
oh man shit bro okay yeah I'm gonna get my my shot ready Whoa! God damn. Oh, man.
Shit.
Okay, yeah, I'm going to get my shot ready.
She pulled out some shots for you if you want them right there.
You got the brown?
Brown make me act like a clown now.
What, you getting brown?
No.
No, don't give me the brown.
What?
I'm a Jamaican. No, no, he's drinking. Oh, no, you don't give me the brown. What? I'm a Jamaican.
No, no, he's drinking.
Oh, no, you don't know.
Bacardi Limon.
Bacardi Limon.
No brown.
No, no, no, that's brown, baby.
With cranberry?
Oh, you trying to be nice.
You didn't give me the real shot.
My bad, my bad.
Okay, okay. Okay, that, my bad. Okay, okay.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, that's your drink.
Okay, that's gangster.
All right.
This is Miami shit.
So was I supposed to take a shot?
No, you good.
You already drank some.
You good, yeah.
2 Live Crew or Poison Clan?
Damn, boy, y'all are hardcore.
Poison Clan is also baby 2 Live Crew.
That's what they were originally known.
Both. Okay. Both.
Okay. Cheers.
I owe a shot.
I owe a shot. I poured too heavy on that one.
Oh, okay.
Life's a bitch, so why marry one?
Being in love with a
bitch is very dumb.
PC hoe haters
that's the most
classic fucking line I've ever heard in my life
that's JT Money
nah JT's a
he a fucking legend man
fuck that shit school ain't for me
man that motherfucker man
J that's my guy
that motherfucker yeah
well there you go J JT Money or Trick Daddy?
Both.
Both.
Big up to JT Money and Trick Daddy.
Trick Daddy.
Both my family.
JT Money was the first gangster rapper.
Let me tell you how me and Big became real good friends because
he was a
he was a
Poison Clan fan
wow
and I was surprised
that he knew anything
about that
he was like
no no no
I'm a fucking
that JT Money
I'm a fan of his
and I called Jay up
and was like
man you know
Big like your shit
you know
and again.
And this was when Big was blown up?
When Big was big. He said he
listened to fucking Poison. Poison could influence
a lot of people. That's dope. I felt like they was like
the NWA of Miami or of the South.
Yeah, yeah. I would say the South. You can't just
say Miami because you got to... Well, I mean, I'm just saying
originally when they first came out, it was very local
but then it grew big. Oh, okay, okay.
Yeah, I get what you're saying.
Yeah, and then they
sped off into...
It was home team. Yeah,
Pick It Up, Pick It Up. That was a big record,
man. I love that record. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then Society, I mean, that's not a part of it,
but Society was a part of that time.
Yes, indeed. Yeah, that was a huge record
too. Yo, look, I ain't gonna lie,
yo, yo, let me tell y'all something. And all that was New York, nigga. Get out of here. Yeah, that was a huge record, too. But look, I ain't gonna lie. Yo, yo, let me tell y'all something.
We were in Miami.
And out of it was New York, nigga.
Get out of here.
Yeah.
Society came with Professor Griff.
Down there was New York.
Oh!
Society came up here, you know, when Griff got kicked out of Public Enemy.
He took him in.
I took him in.
I was like, come on, Griff.
I got you.
Wow.
Yeah, and they were all mad at me and shit.
Why the fuck did you sign this motherfucker guy here and everything?
And then society was in it.
But society repped Miami when he came.
He repped Miami.
No, society, yeah.
Same thing with home team.
They repped Miami.
Yep, yep.
I love when Miami started talking about Miami.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
You be getting very excited.
It's in his blood.
I've been here 16 years, so it's like...
16?
Yeah, 16.
He's from here too, man.
Yeah, bro.
You great.
I have been.
I'm the doctor.
You great, brother.
You good.
Okay, yeah.
He's living in multiple areas.
Hey, man.
Hey, man.
Okay. KOD or bo come down. Hey, man. Hey, man. Okay.
KOD
or booby trap on the river?
You should have asked that question.
Oh, fucking KOD.
Do we drink?
No, no, no.
KOD.
KOD, if you pick one.
Did we take it back?
KOD.
Huh?
You didn't take it back?
Strip club wise.
Yeah, but you know why
you picked KOD over
Movie Trap or whatever?
KOD is the original.
KOD is the original.
Disco Rick, he the one
started KOD right there.
Disco Rick is a legend.
We got Disco Rick in the building.
He a motherfucking legend.
Yeah.
KOD set the standards
for strip clubs. Yeah. KOD set the standards for strip clubs.
Right.
Even though, even though, even though the Rolex.
That's my next one.
The Rolex is first.
And Coco's, and Coco's.
Coco's and Rolex.
Yeah, I was going to say that.
Rolex is before, for sure.
Rolex got, Rolex got body.
Take one, take one too.
Take one.
It still stayed open. Take one, take one too. Take one. It still stayed open.
Take one had the jukebox.
Take one had the jukebox.
They got a jukebox.
See, that's what I'm trying to tell you.
See, they give Magic City all the glory.
In Atlanta.
Because they're in Atlanta, because you don't magic city.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
You're magic.
That's my guess.
Shots out the magic.
But shit, that shit started at the fucking Rolex.
Wow.
You know what I'm saying?
That's true.
That shit, the Rolex started, you know, it was originally the Climax.
That was the original name of it?
That was the original name.
Now, listen.
Look, a lot of Atlanta people are going to watch this.
I don't give a shit.
But they didn't even do full nudity at- No, they understand. They understand. Okay, listen. Now, look, a lot of Atlanta people are going to watch this. I don't give a shit. But they didn't even do full nudity at-
No, they understand.
See, I'm certified at that.
You know, that's why I was able to produce the freak nick.
The freak nick, okay.
Even though they tried to say some other people produced it, but they know how I produced it.
Right, right.
We know.
I'm just saying, yeah, we know.
Hey, but at the end of the day,
no, the shit started there.
A lot of people thought I owned a Rolex.
Wow.
Because what I did was I got the strippers
out of the Rolex,
some good shit here,
and I was like,
hey, everybody got these models on the videos, right?
So I would get the models and use their face
and then take the strippers and use their ass.
Wow.
You was.
So if you look at my videos,
shoot her face and then
shoot the ass.
He was doing some AI
shit before AI.
He's the original AI.
You're the original AI.
Hey, hey.
Before BBL.
I'd be like, make love to the camera.
And then every now and then it was a nice,
not bullet wound stripper.
I'd be like, make love to the camera
the same way you making love
to this unattractive motherfucker
that you want to make, get this money out of them.
And they would dance.
And people found those videos to be offensive.
And they had all their clothes on.
Right.
So, we're going to get back to Quick Time on Slam, right?
But let me ask you, when, because, like, the strip club went from, like, at first it was like a negative place, right?
Like, people just go on there to whatever, whatever.
And then it went from, like, this is where people kind of hang out, right?
Now, me, I'm thinking that it started in the Players Club.
In Atlanta?
No, the movie.
The movie, the Players Club.
You think that culture started with that movie?
No, I'm asking.
This is what I'm asking.
Because remember, hanging out in the strip club.
I mean, in New York.
I'm from New York.
In Miami, it was a way of life.
This is what I'm asking.
This is what I'm asking.
I'm asking why we had to go travel all the way.
But as a Miamian, right?
When you see it, because that's when, like, to New York,
like, when we seen the Players Club, it's like,
these guys hang out at a strip club?
Like, we didn't understand that.
Right, right, right.
So was Miami doing that before the Players Club?
Oh, hell yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Because that was in high school.
It was a rite of passage.
You could eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner at the strip club.
Oh, come on.
You remember
when I took you to Showgirls?
I can understand it.
If you had Ice Cube on,
if you had Ice Cube on,
he would tell you.
We didn't say that, though.
It had to be,
it was inspired
by Miami strip clubs.
You know,
it was all kind of rumors
that some girl,
you know,
kind of came up
with the idea
and then,
you know,
because there ain't nobody getting naked in L.A.
Nobody.
They don't have naked clubs in L.A.
No.
But Ice Cube basically plays club on Atlanta, right?
So if he did that, that's fine, too.
But at the end of the day, it all originated and started here.
In Miami.
In Miami. And so the thing is the thing is with the
my first
strip club I went to was right
across the street from
the Pac Jam skate rink.
Wow. My bouncers
was white guys. Their mom
owned a strip club in
North Miami right from Houston's.
Right. And so
The Houston's that they're right now? Houston's. Right. Right? And so...
The Houston's that's there right now?
Houston Restaurant.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It's still a club.
It was a strip club.
Yeah.
Okay.
So my bouncers, like, yo, I got to take you over here.
And across the street from the skate rink was Tootsies.
Not the Tootsies you see now.
Right, the old Tootsies.
It was the old Tootsies.
Okay.
And so they took me in this motherfucker
right now this was before Rolex
and all that they took me
in this motherfucker and was like yo
I was like look black people don't go in those
how old are you at this time when they taking you
I had to be fucking
19
well not even in your 20s
black people don't go in those strip gloves
and it was like yo you with us
big white
bouncers and shit.
Rocco and Damien.
That's what they're named. I think one of them died, God bless him.
So they took me in this fucking
Tootsies, and I saw that shit.
I was like, whoa. Now, Tootsies
was a white club? White club.
You know, you see the movies,
strip club, motorcycle guys,
motorcycle guys, Aryan Nation type shit.
Right, like the movie Porky's and shit.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is my head for the motherfucking strip club.
And when I went in that motherfucker right there and saw that shit, it was like, wow.
You know, so it kind of added on to everything.
And then they started up the Rolex.
And then, you know, know again that was a part
of our culture
and we
we had to display that
on video
because I wasn't
getting ready
to try to be like
New York
and have breakdancers
in a video
you know what I'm saying
I wasn't going to
put that on an album cover
a train with stickers
and shit like that
you know
and you know
hey look
this is where the fuck
we from
we have naked
every motherfucking day we got strippers you know what I'm saying this is where the fuck we from half naked every motherfucking day
we got strippers
you know what I'm saying
this is what the fuck
we gonna do
and this is us
and that's how you broke
records out here
in the strip club
that's how you broke
the records
you broke it in the strip club
yeah that's why you got girls
on the cover with their ass
on the beach
I'm like
they're like
what the fuck are you doing
this is where we from
right
this is what we're all about
right
this is what the fuck we're all about.
This is what the fuck we're all about.
Facetown.
That's the way we like to fuck.
Oh my God.
I swear to God, we got two different loops.
He was running for politician
at that time.
The last time we got...
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Last time,
he was light.
He was running for office.
It's too different.
Yeah, we got PG loops.
We got PG-13 loops.
Uncle Luke.
This is great.
No, we ain't Luther Campbell.
We ain't Luther Campbell.
That motherfucker. Last time, we almost had pg-13 luke i'm gonna just tell y'all right now fans we got breathing
oh
go ahead let me go to the next one oh man would you one. I thought that was some Miami shit.
I don't even know.
Oh, I mean, I know the LaJuan Love or the Puppies.
Is it LaJuan Love?
Is that the way you say it?
LaJuan Love.
Yeah.
LaJuan Love.
I know the Puppies.
Tell me, I don't know about LaJuan Love.
LaJuan Love.
LaJuan Love was, he's a damn state trooper right now.
He was one of my artists. You know you know again I'm trying to build this
record company around guys from
Miami you know and so I'm getting
I'm getting artists
signing them up and he did this song
Everybody Say Yeah
oh yeah that's a classic
yeah and so
that's a classic
that's LeVon Love
and so we put a classic that's a classic that's LeJuan Love and so and we put that
I'm telling you
I didn't know
that was the name
of the person
that was the
that was the rapper
LeJuan Love
so he was probably
one of my first
solo rap
oh wow
yeah as a kid
he was a little kid
alright let's go
okay I got this one
I got this one
no no you do this one
oh okay
you want me to do
All Miami yeah you gotta you gotta take all oh shit I thought you was gonna give me Let's go. Okay, I got this one. No, no, you do this one. Oh, okay. You want me to do All-Miami?
Yeah, you got to take All-Miami.
Oh, shit.
I thought you was going to give me a red parrot.
Go ahead.
Rick Ross or Pitbull?
Rick Ross or Pitbull?
Pitbull!
Because, I mean, he was signed to Lou Breckner.
Yeah, I signed him up.
I found him, got him off the streets, got his life in order, put my arms around him.
Did Lonely Pop.
I loved him.
And how special he was.
Shout out Big Teach.
Yeah, Big Teach. I mean, Pitt was
Pitt was, you know,
let me tell you how that came about.
I saw Fat Joe
and what Fat Joe and Big Pun was doing.
God bless
Big Pun.
I did a song with Pun
and I said,
this Puerto Rican rapper
in New York doing big things.
I like how you said Puerto Rican.
Is that the wrong way?
No.
Puerto Rico!
Puerto Rico!
Puerto Rico!
My bad. My bad. So you saw what Matt just said. Puerto Rico. Oh!
My bad, my bad.
So you saw what Fat Joe... So I saw what they were doing with Fat Joe and Big Pun, right?
And I was like, I live in Miami.
I won't be complete.
Because I'm all about being complete.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, I got to fucking do a goddamn Cuban rapper.
I'm Miami, and it to fucking do a goddamn Cuban rapper. That's right. You know, I'm Miami, and, you know, we, it's Cubans here.
Absolutely.
You know, and my great-great-great-grandmama is Cuban,
and my daddy met my mama in fucking Cuba.
You know, and shit like that.
One thing we established, you every race right now.
I'm talking about.
Eddie gets headed to Japan.
Eddie gets headed to Japan.
I didn't shoot up a club in Japan.
Maybe in Amsterdam.
So you said, wait a minute.
I'm not ready.
He said, no, Jimmy has to invest in that.
Maybe it was at the Yum Yum Club.
You see what Bun and Joe is doing.
Yeah, I saw what they were doing, and I was like, man, I won't be completed if I don't get a Cuban rapper.
Right.
Right?
That's right.
I got to have a Cuban rapper.
Miami, you know, all my friends and people.
Kid, you already been working with Laz, and Laz has been doing stuff, right?
No, he wasn't working with Laz.
No, you had been working with Laz before that, no doing stuff right. No, he wasn't working with Laz. No, you had been working with Laz before that, no?
No.
No?
No, no, no.
No, I give you...
So Laz, I love Laz to death.
That's my guy.
So I told my A&R guys,
Julian, Boot, and them,
and I was like, we got to find...
At the time, Teach was working for me.
He was doing street team.
It was Jeff Sanchez, And I was like, we got to find, at the time, Teach was working for me. He was doing Street Team.
It was Jeff Sanchez, who had to do NBA entertainment.
Jeff was working for me, all of a sudden, I got to find a fucking Q. You had the South Beach office, right?
We had the South Beach office.
Yeah, where everybody, we got no work done at all.
We got motherfuckers coming in looking for girls and shit.
But hold that.
That's what they tell you, right?
Yeah, I'm going to take you up on that.
I ain't going to give you no Gloria Valera stories.
Wait, that's you just bashed it.
It's in my notes.
Luke, calm down.
All right, all right.
Let's stay on topic.
Stay on topic.
Okay, stay on topic.
I love this.
I love it.
So, I love my job.
So you did some fucking research.
I've been all day, all fucking week.
Oh, this motherfucker right here.
We see you on live.
We say, get him.
We need him back.
Come on.
So we ended up, see, we lose track all the fucking time.
Yeah, that's right.
You talking about Pit.
Pit.
Pit Bull.
You said.
You said you wanted a Cuban artist to feel complete.
So I wanted a Cuban artist.
And I'm like, yo, I got to find a fucking Cuban artist in order to be complete.
I done found the R&B artist in H-Town.
H-Town, amazing record.
You know, shit.
You know, I want to be a real fucking record label.
I don't want to be booty.
Like they say, it's just booty.
You know what I'm saying?
So I ended up
all right, finding Pit.
You know, they brought me the tape,
battle rapper and shit. And I'm
looking at this dude just fucking
crazy. He was like
with the cornrows and he was battling
trades.
And Opelika
selling everything, you name it.
Like Pitbull, that guy
you see right now is a nigga.
He wasn't no motherfucking
Julio Ramundo.
He's a nigga.
Julio Ramundo!
I don't know if I should be offended
or not by that shit.
You know Chico,
hey, he's a nigga.
Hey, came down with nothing but niggas.
Hey, and this motherfucker came in there with the braids and shit.
And I'm like, okay.
This motherfucker here, right?
I mean, on 12, you feel me?
This dude here, I'm like, okay, well, what the fuck is he doing?
Well, you know, so I'm like, okay, well, what the fuck is he doing? So I'm vibing with him.
What you doing?
Okay, well, he out there in the streets.
He hustling.
Right?
Okay, all right.
This motherfucker got too much fucking talent.
Now, how do, this was my first time trying to produce a guy that was a battle rapper to being a,
you know,
because battle rap,
they just keep going.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
No bars.
No structure.
It's like a wild animal
and shit.
How do I tame
this fucking wild animal
to get him in there
doing songs?
But then at the same time,
I got to get this dude
to let him understand
that he got a gift
because he like, yo, I got to get money. You know what I'm saying? I got to get this dude to let him understand that he got a gift because he like, yo, I got to get money.
You know, I got to get this money.
You know, I got to feed my family.
You want to see the long game.
Yeah.
So I'm like, yo, no, no, no, no, no.
You know, you got this gift, you know.
And so at that time, everything that I put out was like, OK, everything was gold.
It was everything was gold. It was, everything was hot.
You know, so I was going through
the whole
fucking bankruptcy
and the court hearings
and shit. So I was kind of distracted
with the music
and we did a song
with him and everything. But then
most importantly, I took him on tour
with me.
And I think he... That changed his life.
Yeah.
And that changed him.
Yeah, he says that all the time.
Yeah, so when he went on the road with me,
it was more like he was in my hip pocket.
Wow.
Like learning the business.
He wanted to learn the business because I'm like,
I got to keep this motherfucker by me
because if I don't have him,
if I let him go to the streets, I kept him busy.
So he can, you know, so he pick up shit, you know,
all those street dudes, we pick up, pick up shit.
So he really, he picked up everything about the business
and then he applied it to himself.
So the first record didn't work.
And then I was like, the Lollipop with Lil Zayn.
And I was like, I'mollipop with Lil Zayn. And I was like,
I'm not,
I was kind of burnt,
burnt out because I had artists who I'm going through the Bay rough city.
These motherfuckers here talking slick.
And I had other artists,
you know,
it was,
it became where I was like,
I'm not fucking with this anymore.
Right.
And then that's how,
you know,
he ended up teach them, ended up working with it this anymore right here and there. And that's how, you know, he ended up, T-Stem ended
up working with the TBT
thing. But with your blessing, right?
With my blessing and all that.
And so I always, like,
stay in the background, like,
schooling him about shit.
You know, when it came to the business and
everything. To this day, that's like my
son. God bless.
He always pays homage to you, man.
Yeah, I know. I love that guy.
I love that guy.
Now, this question, I'm definitely taking this one.
Okay, here we go.
Ice spice
or lotto?
Oh, shit.
Ice spice. Yeah, he answered that question. I'm with ice spice. Oh, shit. Ice Spice.
Yeah, he answered that question.
Ice Spice.
Okay.
You see Ice Spice, little girl, turn around and her ass be shaking?
Ice Spice is certified.
I certify her.
Never met her in my life.
What does that mean when you certify her?
What do you certify her?
You shaking.
Her ass is shaking the right way
and it's moving
and you know,
it's hard to explain.
It's natural?
It's hard.
You got to be a pussyologist
three steps out
of the gynecologist
to explain.
So the ass,
I mean,
no,
I spice,
I spice is,
is the real one.
I never met her before.
One day I'm going to meet her.
Shit,
if she come to the drink shop, you coming through over here. Yeah.
Would you guest host?
Yeah, we have to have y'all.
If we get any of the...
I want to sit over there.
Oh, that'd be gangsta.
Now we give you a mic over there.
But you still have a mic.
Yeah, we give him a mic over there.
And then we're going to have to have poles with some chicks everywhere.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we're going to have to have poles with some shakes everywhere. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, all right.
It's going to be a different
drink chance.
This is what we're going to do.
You should have said
I spice sexy red.
No, we got sexy red coming up.
Oh, you got sexy red?
And we don't come up with it.
These guys over there
come up with this shit.
By the way,
look at his legs crossed.
I know y'all like this.
The Dominican and the Colombian comes up with this.
The Dominican and the Colombian.
The Dominican right there and the Colombian.
Who Colombian?
He Colombian.
And the guy with his legs crossed?
His legs crossed is Dominican.
He's Dominican.
And here's what's weird.
Shout out to DR. And here's what's weird. Get okay, get okay. The fucking concho. His was weird that's my cousin who is
But I feel like he traded his citizenship for being Colombian. So this is why. Because they be going to Colombia. Wait, what, you live in Medellin?
Yeah.
So I didn't know, huh?
He traded.
See, see, see, see, see.
He traded.
And Bobby.
Bobby.
He traded his citizenship.
I don't blame you, man.
Have you ever took the peep show to Colombia?
Oh, man, that should be a different kind of peep show.
No, not at all.
Where's Diego?
He's banned from Columbia.
Let's try to finish Quick Time with Slime.
Let's try to finish Quick Time with Slime.
All right.
The Pac Jam, I mean, this is going to, I know you're going to answer.
Pac Jam or Studio 183?
Pac Jam or Studio 183?
Both.
I would have said Pack Jam.
Well, damn, both.
Okay, let's drink.
I'm going to tell you why.
We need to hear it.
I'm going to tell you why.
I see a lot of first artists at Studio 183.
Here's the deal.
So both of them I created.
Really?
Here's the story.
So I'm over at Carroll City City High
doing dances.
So I'm making all this fucking money
doing dances.
Then the next night,
Sunday night,
I'm going to the Pack Jam.
And so this guy named Zeke
comes over to me and say,
hey, look,
I got this JCPenney building.
I'm the building manager.
What the fuck can you do with this?
Can you bring some people in here?
So then I got with Zeke and was like,
hell yeah, we can make this out of venue.
Put a stage right here, do all this right here
and everything like that.
And at the end of the day,
and not too many people know this story.
So that was a JCPenney?
It was a JCPenney.
I'm in there with the fucking,
the shit that JCPenney left, the hangers and all that. I'm losing slang. You talking about the real JCPenney? No, the real JCPenney. I'm in there with the fucking shit that JCPenney left.
The fingers and all that.
You talking about the real JCPenney?
No, the real JCPenney.
He said the space with JCPenney.
And that is the
first time Pac
performed here.
When I brought him to that month.
First time Outkast, first time Goody Mob,
first time a bunch of people.
First time I seen a lot of people there.
Tribe Conquest 2
yeah
so Zeke
bring me over here
and was like
yo what the fuck
you can do with this
and so I was like
yo do this right here
do that right there
and then before you know
we started doing
parties in there
and obviously
the shit got big
and
and
and
they started
having other people
come in there
and everything
but we we opened up I came up with the idea you know based on this guy And they started having other people come in there and everything.
But we opened up.
I came up with the idea, you know, based on this guy coming and saying, hey, look, I need to know what the fuck to do with this building.
And that shit was a JCPenney.
It was a fucking JCPenney that closed down.
That's a dope ass story.
Most people don't know that story.
That's a dope ass story.
That's why I say both of those is
I came up with both of the ideas.
They're really close to you, right?
Yeah, obviously Pac Jam was our office.
Luke Records office
and the party.
Yeah, and the cover of the 2 Live crew.
But it's just
both of them got sentimental value
for me.
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Let's see here.
Disco Ricker MC Shy D?
Oh, shit.
Disco fucking Rick.
No question about it.
That's a good one there.
That's a good one.
I was not going to say both of them.
Under no circumstances.
Under no fucking circumstances.
You got the name?
Y'all motherfuckers sober as fuck.
Y'all might as well start drinking.
We're not sober.
I'm not
prepared for the house.
You're fucking me up this whole time.
I'm like, what? Oh, shit.
Cardi B or Eve?
Shit. Pour my shit. All right. Cardi B or Eve? Shit.
They pull my shit.
Eve, I always had a crush on Eve.
I just imagined so many nights that I was knocking her down.
Then she married the white man.
I was like, I'm a rich-ass motherfucker.
Rich motherfucker.
I was like, I ain't mad at you.
I was like, I ain't mad at you.
Shout out to Eve, man.
Shout out to Cardi B, too. I'm a Cardi B. She cool, man. She seem cool. I'm like, I ain't mad at you. I was like, I ain't mad at you. Shout out to Eve, man. I'm a Cardi B, too.
She cool, man. She seem cool. I'm Cardi B
all day. Yeah, Eve cool people.
Both of them seem like down to earth
women. Eve got a vibe out of this world.
I was just like,
what the fuck? But the rich
motherfucker, he was a rich motherfucker.
How the fuck did you get to England,
Eve? What happened? Hey, man. motherfucker. He was a rich motherfucker. How the fuck did you get to England?
What happened?
Hey, man.
Why you looking like that?
I learned and I have a face expression
when I'm shocked.
You fucking me up, Luke.
Oh, Luke.
Excuse me. Let me not forget the Uncle
Boy.
That fucking monster was so
great.
Shout out to Excuse me. Let me not forget the Uncle Bob. All right. The fucking monster was cold. That's right. God damn it.
Shout out to the monster.
Shout out to the monster, man.
Shout out to my homie Jay in the building.
That's right.
All right.
This is going to be an easy one for you.
Shout out to Jay Landlord, too.
That's right.
Sugar Hill DJs.
Jamponi Express.
Oh.
I can't imagine you saying both when you're part of one.
No, no.
I'm ghetto style
that's right ghetto style
Uncle Al Sugarhill DJs
rest in peace Uncle Al
shit
so you can pick between these
we gotta take a shot
okay
I gotta go
Jam Pony Express from Tampa right
Jam Pony is from Fort Lauderdale
I wanna say both let's say both but shout out to both got to go on. Jampony Express from Tampa, right? Jampony is from Fort Lauderdale. Okay.
I want to say both.
Let's say both.
But shout out to both, man.
Let's shout out both. They legendary.
Yeah, because they legendary.
I seen a battle with
Sugarhill DJs
and Jampony Express
and it was the craziest
battle I ever seen.
It had to be classic.
Crazy.
Okay, Al.
God bless his soul.
I mean,
Slick Vic.
I mean, I mean, I mean, Slick Vic. I mean,
you talking about some deep shit.
I gotta say both. Even though
Al is a Miami guy and I'm a Miami
guy, but
you know, I
gotta give props to both.
Are there any other DJ crews? Because
those are the Ghetto Style DJs,
Sugar Hill DJs,
and Jam Pony Express. Are there any more crews that we don't ever talk about international DJs party down DJs where Rick used
to be with you had uh uh South Miami DJs Tiny Head which was the one I mentioned earlier who brought down Jekyll and Hyde. Okay.
You name it.
Shit.
It was so many DJ crews.
They were all over the place.
I'm probably missing people.
Who was,
what is Boat of Love with?
Boat from the radio station?
Yeah, Boat of Love.
We got a DJ group.
Really? There's quite a few DJ groups.
Yeah.
But they wasn't all doing the sound system shit. Yeah. Yeah?
Everybody bought Christmas time? Oh, shit.
With all the speakers and everything
coming out? You set up on the park, you had to battle.
Everybody had 64 speakers.
70
speakers. 16
speakers. Oh, you got your ass blowed out.
Get the fuck out of here. And do you think that's where
bass actually comes from because of that? The sounded out. Get the fuck out of here. And do you think that's where bass actually comes from?
That's where bass came from.
Because of that, the sound system.
That's the reason I created it.
They had a driving bass in it.
You know, even when we did the records,
like these records, we would cut the lacquer.
If you know how close the vinyl is
when it becomes so much harder, driving bass, we would add, enhance the bass from what they would have in the studio.
Wow.
So it was about having a sound where we're from.
Right.
You know, and it was very little highs, but it was all bass.
People would just sit in the bass speakers, the bass bands the uh to be able to
get the bass then they had bass enhancers so we couldn't do nothing but bass music wow so now this
is another curveball broward or dade dade. I mean, how's that curveball? Jesus.
He's from Dade.
Dade.
Oh, Dade.
Okay.
Yeah.
Made in Dade.
My bad.
My bad.
You know, we all got a love affair.
Now, you'd ask me this shit 20 years ago.
Yeah, it was a problem.
You know what I'm saying?
But I'm always going to say Dade.
Broward and Dade?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And Miami
typically had a north and south
beef. There was always these beefs.
We're used to barrels. Queens, Brooklyn.
Here, it's north and south beefs, always.
It's always been that way, even with sports.
Yeah, the state is a dick.
So it's only going north
and south.
Okay.
You don't know
where you live at
for 16 years?
No, no, no.
Look at the fucking map.
No, because they
pointed it to a gun.
The gun station.
No, no, no, no, no.
That's for...
That's for gangsters.
But actually,
the state I lived in
for the last 16 years
is a dick.
Hey, by the way, you're at the head.
He said, you's a dick rider.
That was horrible.
No, you're ridiculous, man.
In Key West, it's the piss.
Oh, damn.
I'm not ready.
Look at the map. Fuck. It is, it is. And then, all piss. Oh, damn. I'm not ready. Look at the map.
Fuck.
It is, it is.
And then...
Or something else.
So, all right.
He said, oh, fuck.
Damn.
I'm fucking up.
Come on, let's move to the next one.
DJ Khaled, Chocolate Milk?
Yeah.
Okay.
We represent DJ motherfucking Khaled
chocolate milk. He got a fucking
Nestle.
Hell yeah, we fucking
represent. I'm getting that sandwich.
That's another one of my kids. Yeah, you put him
on radio for the first time.
Yeah. 99 Jams.
You know, he did Mix 96, but
then you put him on. He was on the Freak Show first. Really 6, but then you put him on... He was on the Freak Show first.
Really?
Wait.
Before you put him...
Yeah, Khaled was on the Freak Show.
Khaled, Khaled, Khaled don't seem like a freaky nigga, though.
Wait.
How was that Freak Show?
I'll be honest.
What Khaled show was...
I'm going to have to put this shit out.
Put it out.
I'm going to have to go get all these fucking videos.
Give us clips so we can put it in this episode.
I'm going to give you the clips.
Okay, what?
Khaled, what? Khaled what?
Khaled was, Khaled has always been Khaled.
Yeah, he's been the same person for sure.
Before I put him on the, before I did the radio show.
From Mix 96 days, he was always the same dude, yeah.
But Khaled sold everything.
Typical A-Rab.
Damn.
Shout out to my A rap brothers.
Just the way you say
A rap.
He sold every fucking thing.
He been like that.
He was a hustler.
So when you met him, what was he selling?
Brick phones.
Yeah, and his family had stores.
Yeah.
Caled, old girl was from New Orleans.
Yeah.
By way of Orlando.
Orlando.
He didn't move to Orlando.
Right.
And they wouldn't put him on the radio in Orlando.
And so he ended up coming down here and he was doing the Mix 96 with Butterfuko.
Butterfuko.
Shout out Butterfuko.
Right.
Shout out Butterfuko.
And then I heard him on there and then I was putting this mix show together because we had no,
we'd never had a mix show.
We was way behind.
Way behind.
So I created this show with Calak because I really thought he was from New York
with his sling.
And he was down with Terror Squad already, I think, by that time.
He was down with.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mix 96, he was down with Terror Squad.
He was down with.
He always, him and Fat Joe always.
Yeah.
Right.
So then, and I had a party
I had a Super Bowl party
so Fat Joe
and all the guys
came to the
fucking party
and Khaled came
and we
had the
cameras going
and shit
and Khaled comes in
with the goddamn
brick phone
trying to sell everybody
a fucking brick phone
at the party?
at the party oh At the party.
Oh, I got the footage.
It's golden.
I got the footage.
Hey, while we got PDs and
PDs and MDs and
back rooms screwing women and
the A&R guy,
the radio guy.
Oh, I shouldn't have said that?
No, no, you can say it, but it happens in your car.
And it was like a little bit.
Oh, we trying to get records played, God damn it.
That was your pay-o-lock.
No.
Fucking up people's life and shit.
Bros in there, yo, I got these big phones and shit.
Shoot that motherfucker right there.
He got the phone.
And Mushroom Man, Fat Joe came up with one of the guys in the group.
He called him Mushroom Man.
I don't know what the fuck that meant to this day.
When y'all see it.
Well, there's a promoter named Mushroom, so I don't know if it's the same person.
He called one of the guys Mushroom Man because they was doing all this stuff.
Everybody was doing.
The girls was in there being the girls.
Okay.
Okay.
I don't know.
Just before everybody. Yeah, you. just before everybody yeah you a little bit but i i'll send you the video you can cut up what you need to cut yeah
it was a it was an episode of the peep show holy moly you're out of control
you really out of control you've been out of control Verb or Dislock?
Verb or Dislock I gotta go with Verb
Okay
Okay
Verb, one of the best rappers
Did not really blow up like that
Verb was on
On Scarred
He was supposed to be the next guy
Because what I would do always
Piggyback artists Scarred is Trick Daddy's breakout record he was supposed to be the next guy because what I would do always piggyback
artists
it's Trick Daddy's breakout record
yeah and Verb was on there
with Trick Daddy
now mind you keep in mind I'm going through fucking bankruptcy
I'm mad at everybody
I'm mad at the fucking 2 Live crew
because they sided with this
little guy
and I'm fucking pissed off so then I said
I'm going to do a bigger mix
I'm going to do
64 track mix and we ain't going to be doing
the 16 shit
that we were doing with 2 Live Crew
and it's going to be big massive mix
I'm going to go find some two new
motherfuckers that nobody ever heard of
I did a big old battle
with a rap
battle at the Pac Jam
Teen Disco
and I'm going to find me another
motherfucking rapper because I do this shit
you know you motherfuckers don't make me
I make motherfucking music
so I was angry real real angry
so I find Bird
Trick Daddy wins a four week battle
at the pack
jam and then I get
him put him on the record and I'm like
yo I'm going to show these motherfuckers and then I
did Scarred Scarred was really
angry it was a real
that's the original yeah this is the original
man yeah
original vinyl
original vinyl
yeah
when I did that song it was like you know and now I got two
brand new artists nobody never heard of right never been out and probably the biggest mix I
ever did because everything was you know eight tracks 16 tracks at the most you know I got all
the strings coming in Barry White and all this shit going on
I'm like I'm going to show these fucking
2 Live crew and Mr. Mix and all
the rest of them that who the motherfucker is
and then I ended up doing that
song and that shit blew up
and you know Trick Daddy
got a big career behind that
where was it recorded at?
it was recorded at
it was recorded at? It was recorded at Chris Blackwell's studio.
Oh, in South Beach.
On South Beach at the hotel.
At the Marlin.
The Marlin.
At the Marlin?
It was at the Marlin.
The Marlin is crazy.
Infamous.
And why'd you put these two records together on a record, on vinyl?
Scarred. And the Biggie joint
and the Big
well Scar was on his own
and then I did
the Biggie joint
cause these are
together right
this is the A side
and B side
oh no this is the full
this is the full EP
yeah yeah
the Biggie joint I did
separate
yeah
but Scar was I that was that, I'll show you motherfuckers who the motherfucking Don is.
And I feel like it dropped during the How Can I Be Down too.
I don't know if I'm wrong, but it felt like it was a soundtrack, one of those conferences.
Yeah, I always would drop a record around a holiday weekend.
Right.
Especially when a lot of people coming down.
A Memorial Day weekend.
A Memorial Day, something like that.
When people coming down here, you know something like that, when people coming down here
to then take the
shit back to where they came from.
Because we consider it a breakout market.
Analog or digital?
Both.
Both.
You got to take another shot.
I think it's a boy there.
Yo MTV Raps or The Box?
Ooh.
Yeah, The Box was in South Beach.
Oh, shit.
The Box, music, television, you control.
Yeah, you control.
You pay for it.
Which box?
Ralph McDaniel's box?
No, The Box that was in South Beach.
The one that you ordered from
I'm just fucking with you
yeah
actually
shout out to
Ralph McDaniel's
but we
we wasn't
we didn't
out here we didn't have that
so
exactly
no that's what I'm saying
when y'all talk about it
I'm saying
I know
respect him
but we didn't have it
yeah
oh my bad y'all
I said
video mix in the box
and then we had cable TV
with Rhapsody and NMV.
Yeah, I said both.
Both.
Both.
Because it's, I mean, yeah, we got.
We already took a shot.
We took a shot.
Let's take another shot.
Another?
Damn, fuck.
Just because.
I mean.
You got a whole bunch of cups there.
And the bots in the, she waiting to get her ass again.
DJ Laz or DJ Khaled?
DJ Laz.
I love Khaled to death.
Both, both, both.
You picked?
Then you went backwards.
Both.
I got to say both.
I got to say both.
Both.
I love both of them boys.
I was trying to ask you before.
I thought that you and Laz had recorded.
He was part of either production or something early on with you.
No, no, no.
Laz was doing his own thing.
On radio?
On radio.
And he did his music with...
And you didn't put out any of his records either?
No.
Laz was doing his stuff with...
What was it?
Pandis or somebody?
And I did
the
Pitbull music and
everything like that. And it's so
crazy how they ended up being together
because, again, them two Cuban rappers.
You know, Laz was the first.
He's a legend, yeah. He was the first
Cuban rapper in Miami
he was doing bass records
DJ Laz?
we need to have him on here too
so I did Pit
and
it took a little time before they kind of
linked up together
but eventually they linked up
and I'm so happy that they
and shout out to the Diaz brothers too that were
part of his career as well early on
um
well we kind of
well Rolex or Take One
I already know what you're going to say
oh both
oh yeah I didn't know you were going to say that
fucking us up
so you like the jukebox
you gotta have the jukebox
I mean fucking Rolex is a classic
The take
Take one is out of control
Happy hour to take
It's a little
That's part of the jukebox
Little round
Andrew James on take one now
Hall of Famer
He on take one
That's my guy
You got this Nori
The next one
Okay hold on I don't even know where I? The next one? Okay, hold on.
I don't even know where I'm at.
You can do it.
Okay, hold on.
I believe in you.
Where we at?
Take one?
Yeah.
Rolex?
And then go down.
Oh, podcast or radio?
Uh-huh.
Podcast or radio?
Podcast.
Goddamn it, guys.
I like podcast.
Do you feel you never got
your fair shake in radio
because of the records being so...
I'm underground.
Yeah, because of my records.
I mean, the first record
I really got put on the radio
was H-Town,
Knockin' the Boots.
Because so many record labels
would be like
yo we can't play
no fucking Misa Oni
we can't play
Throw The D
no matter how clean
I made the record
they wouldn't play it
so then
when I did
when I did
said okay
let me find an R&B group
and then I went
and found H-Town
right
and
their name was
The Jits and shit
I had to change that shit
their name was The Jits?
no their name was the Jits and shit. I had to change that shit. Their name was the Jits? No.
Their name was the Jits.
They were saying that in Texas too?
Their name was the fucking Jits.
Did it mean the same as Miami?
Like little kid, like Jits?
Yeah.
That's Miami slang.
Yeah, I mean, I never knew that any other way.
I've never heard Jits from Southern shit.
I've never heard Jits till I came to Miami.
Yeah, they're fucking, I'm like, what the fuck is this shit? That's hilarious. I'm like, bro, I can't fucking go nowhere with heard Jits talk until I came to Miami. I'm like, what the fuck is this shit?
I'm like, bro, I can't fucking go nowhere
with no Jits.
So damn...
And you poppin' pussy
and all this.
Yeah, yeah.
And I end up,
you know, because Greg Street was doing the radio
in Houston at the time.
Shout out to Greg Street.
Greg Street from Atlanta? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was doing radio in Houston at the time. Shout out to Greg Street. He's a legend. Shout out to Greg Street. Greg Street from Atlanta?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was doing radio in Houston.
So that's my dog.
And all I heard was fucking H-Town this, H-Town that, H-Town this.
And then I was like, yo, we're going to name you motherfuckers H-Town.
You know, and that's how the name came about.
That was genius, actually, to name them H-Town.
The Jits was a terrible name.
Oh, it was not.
It was not.
I wasn't going nowhere with that shit. And that's why the first song was Knocking the Boots. You knowits was a terrible name. Oh, it was not. I wasn't going nowhere
with that shit.
And that's why the first song
was Knocking the Boots.
You know what
Knocking the Boots means.
Of course.
Yeah, smashing.
Smashing.
That's some Texas shit.
So I was like,
yo, we got to have
that kind of song, yeah.
Okay.
They were singing in Texas
regularly?
Yeah.
That was their thing.
I only heard that in Miami.
I never, listen.
I mean, I thought
when I was a kid,
because I was a Jit
when I heard that record, and I thought they were from Miami, Miami. I never, listen. I mean, I thought when I was a kid, because I was legit when I heard that record,
and I thought they were from Miami, too.
I never knew what the fuck knocking the boots was.
They had to explain it to me.
They were like, yo, look, yo, look, man, you knock them boots, man,
you knock them boots there.
I'm like, what the fuck is that?
They were like, man, that girl right there, you knock them boots.
And I'm like, huh?
Oh, I get it, because boots in Texas, I guess, makes more sense.
Exactly.
And I was thinking about it.
As a New Yorker,
I always thought it meant
Timberlands.
Oh,
come on,
man.
Oh,
shit.
Come on,
man.
No,
get over that.
Don't blame my region.
They're just accepting me
as a Miamian.
Let me just tell y'all
how we thought in New York.
We thought everyone
wore Timbs everywhere.
Okay.
It was a shock to us. They was like, wait a minute.
They don't wear Timbs in Miami?
I wore Timbs. Yeah, motherfuckers wore
Timbs in Miami.
Yeah, yeah.
Come on.
I've been full of fucking Timbs.
I had the black ones, beige ones.
I had all the motherfuckers. The black ones means you
a savage.
If you wear the tan ones.
And we had fake Timbs out here with the M&M boots.
Remember the M&M's in the flea market?
The fake ones?
No, I don't know.
You don't remember M&M boots?
No, no, no fake boots.
Nobody remember them shit.
Sonny, come out.
Where's Sonny D at?
No, no, no.
Where's Sonny D at?
I know you wore the fake boots.
You wore M&M's.
You wore M&M's.
Where the fuck is the M&M's?
You don't remember M&M's?
No, I don't know the M&M's.
Not M&M's. Down south at USA. Marshall Mathers don't remember Eminem? No, I don't know Eminem.
Marshall Mathers, not Marshall Mathers. No, no, no. US One
flea market sold him for sure.
What's the store name, Eminem?
No, no. Flea market boots.
There was like Timberland knockoffs.
Yeah, no, I ain't.
Y'all was wilding out here.
Go to the next one.
Kodak Black
or Boss Man D-Lo?
Kodak Black.
Gunplay or Iceberg?
Damn.
Both.
Okay, fuck.
Shit.
Now I got to play that.
Oh, shit.
Here go my shot.
Slip and Slide
or Poor boy records?
Boof.
Fuck.
Damn, Luke, you making us drink.
Fuck.
Y'all got these hard shit.
Let me ask you this, though.
One of you motherfuckers under the bus.
What was your relationship with Ted Lucas,
and how did you feel when Trick went to slip and slide?
How was that relationship? I had no relationship with him Lucas and how did you feel when Trick went to Slip and Slide? How was that relationship?
I had no relationship
with them at the time.
The story behind that, I was
in bankruptcy.
So you were going through some shit. I was going through
some shit in the
bankruptcy court. So I technically
when I put Trick
out, I was
going to sign him
but my lawyer said
if you sign him
then you will be a property of the estate
you're tying him up
which he would be in the bankruptcy
yeah you're tying him up
so I didn't sign him
so we did the song
while I was in bankruptcy
Scarred
did a whole album for Island Records with all that.
So I told Island Records.
Island Def Jam?
Yeah.
Well, before Def Jam, probably.
It was before Def Jam.
It was just Island.
Just Island, yeah.
Island Music.
Yeah.
So it was Hiram Hicks was running Island Records.
And I was like, I can't sign you.
And so one day he called me up and said, I did a single deal with this record company.
And I was like, shoot me the contract.
Let me look at it.
And then it said he had signed.
I was like, that's not a single deal.
You signed a full-fledged contract.
And I was like, best of luck to you.
I can't really talk to you about it because it would be torturous interferenceledged contract. God damn. You know, and I was like, you know, best of luck to you. I can't really talk to you
about it because
it'd be torturous
interference of a contract.
Oh, wow.
Damn.
And so,
we stayed
the best of friends
even to this day
right now.
Nah, he has the most
respect for you.
Yeah, that's my son.
Like,
you got everybody
that you touch, I think they all feel so much respect for you just like yeah that's my son like you got the everybody that you touch
I think they all feel
so much respect for you
and they show you love
on this show
particularly
yeah yeah
keep on hearing
that's my guy
I mean that motherfucker
again
him like Pitt
you know I took him
on my side
he actually lived with me
you know what I'm saying
you know
Trick
yeah Trick
cooking all the food and shit so he lived with me when he got what I'm saying? Trick? You know, Trick. Yeah, Trick would be cooking all the food and shit.
So he lived with me when he got out of jail.
Was he cooking food back then?
Yeah, hell yeah.
That motherfucker was cooking back then.
He was selling crack and cooking.
No, he wasn't selling no.
He wasn't.
Relax, man.
No, he came back.
In my mind.
He came out of jail.
When he got out of jail, he was staying with me.
Which he was doing good then.
Go to the next one.
Crazy as fuck.
Love him.
Ball Greasy or Billy Blue?
Both.
God damn.
They got a strength, though.
She got me shots and a fucking drink.
And I ain't eat no food.
My base ain't right at all.
We would have had Chef T.
Something for you.
We got pizza stock next door.
We got it all.
Sexy Red or Glorilla?
Glorilla.
Don't do that to me.
Sexy red.
Okay.
All right.
J-Lo or Shakira?
Damn.
How many times J-Lo was married?
That got a smile on her face.
J-Lo or Shakira I don't know
that
I would say both
no no no J-Lo
J-Lo got a
nice ass
at least
J-Lo with fucking the brothers
I don't know Shakira gave no brother no ass.
Oh, you just fucked it up.
Who, Shakira?
But why you got good?
What the fuck is that?
Jimmy Butler?
She was fucking with Jimmy Butler?
Is he black?
Jimmy Butler black?
Alright, so
you said J-Lo.
It was a rumor with Jimmy Butler?
Alright, we don't care about her dating life, man.
No, that don't count.
You fucking Jimmy Butler don't count.
J-Lo fucked Puff Daddy.
That don't fucking count.
Jimmy Butler is a black boy guy.
And she was one of the Wayne brothers, too.
She was one of the Wayne's too She was one of the Wayne brothers
Yeah man J-Lo fucking was a dancer
Wesley Snipes
She was with Wesley Snipes
Shit J-Lo certified man
J-Lo got a stamp on that thing
Last but not least
That's it you good
No just this question.
We're not done yet.
Oh, I thought we were done.
I'm going to take a pistol after this.
Yeah, I got one too.
Oh, so this is the LeBaron attack.
The grand finale of this.
I can't even find it.
I'll tell you.
You ready?
Yeah.
Loyalty or respect?
Yeah.
Both.
Fuck yeah.
Cheers to that.
We always think it should be both.
We always think it should be both.
We don't understand why people pick one or the other.
Who the fuck does that?
When you can have both.
You got to have both.
Got to have loyalty and respect.
Please, before you go to the...
Before I take a piss, go ahead.
You don't know where this shit been going.
No, I got it.
I know exactly where I'm going with it.
Perfect time.
You on IG Live.
Man, everybody in the world on IG Live with you.
And you said, man, these motherfuckers owe me a check
and then you start naming names
and I'm gonna give you
this is my personal story
oh shit
it's before you made it
I'm in St. Thomas
and I'm listening to these artists that you particularly named.
And I was just like, oh, listening to them.
It's just what the algorithms was playing.
I'm in the pool, maybe 1230 at night.
And I'm like, oh, they just and what they said I'm like
what is going on here
then
I see
and I know what you're saying
but then I go did I know what you're saying. But then I go, did I listen to you?
And I was like, holy shit.
I couldn't.
I was so, like, blown away at how much you were accurate on what your statement was delivering.
I was like, it was the same and by the way it was white people who
walked away and walked around and it was like it's the same shit that i did and i was like
holy shit but you had did it so many years before so in my opinion now this is my opinion
i thought he was playing with the girls just telling telling them, like, yo, you know, y'all all owe me or whatever.
But I need to ask you, face-to-face man to man, for all the masses, what did you mean by that, R.G. Post, when you said that about, you know, all the women who is actually taking your formula?
Some know it, but some probably don't even know it.
Right, right, right.
What is your stance
to describe that very moment?
It was
not like, okay,
I need a check.
I need some money. It was more of
a form of
you guys
need to understand where this shit came from.
Pay homage to your history.
You know what I'm saying?
Because I was called everything but the child of God from women.
Whether it was C. Dolores Tucker or everybody, oh, misogynistic pig.
You this, you that.
You going to court, you know, can't really do major tours because of the music and the dancing and all this stuff that was going on.
And then I'm looking at it and I see a lot of artists, not new artists, not paying respect to older artists who really paved the way. And I'm like, okay, add on to this twerking
shit. Do y'all really
know the history behind
this? You feel me?
And so let me
just say this on
here, on this platform, so
I can give y'all a little history lesson
of where the fuck y'all came from
and where all this started.
Because you drop it and like it's hot.
Like if you go and pull up any one of my videos,
you'll see that.
The same dancing 30 fucking years ago,
40 years ago.
You know what I'm saying?
So basically saying y'all need to pay respect to it.
Like I've had conversations with Sexy Red.
You spoke to Sexy Red?
Yeah, I spoke to Sexy Red. You spoke to Sexy Red? Yeah, I spoke to Sexy Red
and
Ice Spice
hit me up. I was supposed to
link up with them, have a
conversation. It's more
of, hey look, y'all,
I love what they're doing.
Even when I got
the award, when they honored me here in Miami,
and I saw fucking Cardi B sitting there,
she going through the same bullshit, saying she ain't hip-hop,
she ain't this because of the music she's doing and the vibe that she was on.
That's why I kind of gave her respect at that moment.
Keep doing, giving her words of encouragement.
It's the same thing with these young ladies.
You're doing this music, you're getting criticized
from one part of it.
People love what you're doing,
but at the end of the day,
know where this shit came from and who paid the weight.
It's all about history with me.
I respect the fuck out of Quincy Jones.
You know what I'm saying?
People like that. You know, I know these, you know, I know Sugar Hill Records and all these people who've kind of paved the way for us to do what we're doing.
And I just wanted to say that to the ladies. But don't you think it's probably less their fault and more
the culture's fault that doesn't
want to teach history, doesn't want to
keep passing down the history of the culture?
It's not really the culture.
It's more of
the Stephen Hills and people them like them
like the media that controls certain things.
Who control media and who
never told our story.
You know, Source Magazine
was pretty much
one of the only people
to tell the story of Miami.
And they were pretty accurate.
They were pretty accurate.
You know what I'm saying?
Fab by Freddie.
I had to tell him,
I'm not going to New York
to do no goddamn
Yo! MTV Raps.
No, you're going to come down here.
And he would.
And they came down here.
It was the first time
the show ever traveled.
Just like they went to Compton.
Just like that.
Then they started traveling to places.
They went to Miami first?
They went to Miami first. I didn't know that it was first here.
We were first.
Embracing the culture and understanding
what we're all about
was
very, very
important to me even then
and at the time.
Again, I love
what these girls are doing because
I laugh at it. I think it's
fucking brilliant.
Your style has lasted
all this time.
All this time.
Look at y'all motherfuckers shaking y'all ass right now.
When they thought you was degrading
women, the women took it over.
That's how ill it is. That's some fucking brilliant shit. Thating women, the women took it over. That's how ill it is.
That's some fucking brilliant shit.
That these women,
the women were coming after me.
I was the worst motherfucker in the world.
And the women have taken over it
and they whooping the men's ass
right now.
You like it,
don't like it,
up here in between,
or in between,
the woman is fucking kicking ass,
and they're winning.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're fucking winning.
I'm telling you.
And women in hip hop.
They're winning, man.
And like, even with Sexy Red,
we did the award show,
the BET Music Award.
Okay.
And my homeboy owns,
owns the label.
Shout out to my man Stan. Stan, pick up
the stand, that's my man. Stan was
trying to get her on the red carpet.
Right. Nobody noticed her. He was trying to get her on the red
carpet too.
It was the original BET or it was the
last year? The year
before. When I went there, when they did the 50.
Okay.
Oh, the 50, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They were trying to get on the red carpet.
Right.
Couldn't get on the red carpet.
And because of her music and what she was representing,
they wouldn't let her on the fucking red carpet.
So Stan, my dog, you feel me?
Yeah.
You know, that's his artist.
Yeah.
I'm like, fuck that shit.
Get in the car with me.
Oh, so you drunk sexy red on the red carpet with you?
Get in the car with me. Fuck that shit. You going on
there. You don't go, I ain't going. This is my dog
right here. I fuck with him. You feel me?
Right. Did she make you rain on the red carpet?
Hop in the car. And so she's
sitting in the trunk. She said, I never
did this shit in my life. I don't know what it is.
I'm nervous as fuck. And was like, look, you're going to see your ex on the floor. That said, I never did this shit in my life. I don't know what it is. I'm nervous as fuck.
And I was like,
look,
you're going to see
your ex on the floor.
That's where you stand at.
Don't fucking hold my hand
whatever you do.
I cannot be
dating sexy red.
You never hold my hand
sexy red.
You come on
and so eventually
it was like,
bro, you know, like, she can't come on the red carpet.
No, no, no.
She with me.
At the BET Awards.
At the BET Awards.
So Sexy Red ended up going on the fucking red carpet.
If you see the first picture, you'll see me and her in the first picture.
And then, you know, with the first stop and then we moved and I say,
okay, well, you with this other girl, y'all
just go and, you know, kind of
coast up on the red carpet and I took
off. And I saw
y'all. Hold on, hold on. We just
tell you how gangster that story
is to lead to this story.
We seen sexy red on the
red carpet last year.
And you know what she did on the red carpet?
What's that?
She made it rain everywhere.
She walked through it.
I was about to be like, hey, Sexy Red.
And I was like, she started making it rain.
Everybody was like, nah, I got it.
Because you don't want to be the nigga in there.
On your face.
You don't want to be.
You don't want to be.
Sexy Red done made it rain on you and shit.. And I'm going to take some random rain on you and shit.
Yeah, I'm going to take a...
We're going to take a small piss break.
If you want to take a piss break.
Yeah, oh my God.
I'm so happy.
I'm so happy.
This is everything
I thought it would be.
And more.
So this is another something
that I was very...
Interesting to me see you say.
Right?
You living through the Biggie
Tupac thing and then you seeing
an incident with Ross in Canada.
Now these individuals might have,
I don't know,
been just random individuals,
but you spoke on it.
You was like, yo, Drake,
now you kind of like,
kind of like got a ride with that
because he posted it.
What was the reason why you said that?
He liked it.
Yeah, he liked it.
He liked the picture
why did why did you comment what made you want to speak on that what what the the thing is
you know i'm um you know i'm all about peace in hip-hop uh number one. Then a Miami first,
you feel me?
Right.
And so,
that incident that happened,
you know,
it was fucked up,
what happened.
You know what I'm saying?
Because it's obvious
that Ross didn't go there
looking for that.
Right.
You know, you...
Or they wouldn't have went there. Yeah Oh, they wouldn't have went there.
Yeah, they wouldn't have went there.
They would have went there a little more deeper
than what they went there.
Right.
You feel me?
And so at the end of the day,
I'm looking at my dog, Sam Snead,
you know, in the fight.
And then I'm looking at this other kid
who Ross brought out there with him
from, you know, one of the guys
who used to roll with him,
brother who passed. You know, one of the guys who used to roll with him, brother who passed.
You know, these young guys out there going through this
and this shit happening.
So it got a little bit deeper, you know, and I'm like, okay,
that shit there is fucked up.
You know, however it went down, it was fucked up.
But then when Drake liked it, it became you condoning this shit so that mean
you on that and people saying oh this is your crew and all that you fought these dudes and
everything like that i'm like yo that's that's fucked up right mind you you keep rolling down
to miami thinking it's sweet like that right you feel me with you know, hey, look, you know, Ross,
he live in Atlanta, he live all over the place,
but you, you know,
this is Miami shit, and then you got the same
time, you got 50 commenting.
And so it's a lot of, I just
took it from the standpoint, a lot of motherfuckers
is like really thinking we sweet
down here. They ain't really sweet like
that. You know, we don't play like that.
Right.
You know, and so, again, maybe because a lot of dudes have moved down here
and, you know, hanging out, doing their thing, which is okay, which is fine.
Right.
But then at the end of the day, you know, we ain't on no sucker shit.
Right.
And so I feel like, you know, okay, all right, you know,
y'all need to squash that.
Because again, now I speak for two different worlds around here.
A lot of people are like, yo, nobody never want nothing bad to happen to nobody.
But at the same time, and that's why I'm always the peacemaker.
No, no, no, it ain't like that.
Let me deal with it, you know, and things like that.
And so at the end of the day, I just felt like I needed to say something, you know,
more so than anything because people would take it for a joke, you know, and when you
mention Miami and 305 gangsters and shit like that and all that,
nah, nah, we ain't doing that.
You know, you can have all your jokes and all that all you want, but don't play with us like that.
Do you think that derived from you not forgiving him for when he kind of like,
it felt like Drake took a shot at you.
Tell Uncle Luke we in Miami too.
Well, I looked at, even with that, right, I didn't, I had to,
I had to put in my mind that's, you know, that was okay,
you just saying you out here.
Some people say it
was a slight diss and then and how did you take it and and originally i was like oh buddy being slick
right not the nigga who just got his arm broke by puff daddy really you me? And so I'm like,
but then I channeled it.
Again, I'm on some peace shit right now.
I channeled it. Oh, okay. All right.
You just saying, telling my mom out in Miami
because what really happened was
it was with Birdman and them. It was with
them dudes moving down here
and me saying that if
y'all gonna live here, you gotta embrace the
culture. You gotta do something in the fucking community.
You know what I'm saying?
It wasn't nothing hard on them.
Like, y'all got all these motherfuckers.
You got to be a part of the community.
There's a lot of people moving down here, right.
You know, just, you know, go to the park and say hello to the kids and read a fucking book.
Go to Winn-Dixie.
Go to Public.
Exactly.
You know, and so I guess, I don't know,
he probably felt offended that I didn't mention his name.
But, you know, I don't know.
But I didn't take it as a diss because if I took it as a diss,
then I'd have had a conversation with him.
You know, but I was like, don't take this as a diss.
One little man say,
man,
nigga tried you just now.
And then the other little one say,
hey,
nah,
nah,
nah,
man,
nah.
But he just,
you know,
he just trying to,
you know,
do some comedy shit,
you know,
and all that.
And so I,
I,
the little,
the other,
the good guy,
you know,
cool the bad guy off.
Put it that way.
I can say it like that. But I, I didn't, you know, cool the bad guy off. Put it that way. I can say it like that.
But I didn't, you know, but people would, oh, tell Uncle Luke I'm out of Miami.
And so it became like a thing.
You know, people doing Instagram pics.
Tell Uncle Luke I'm out of Miami too, girls and shit.
Tell Uncle Luke I'm out of Miami too.
I'm like, damn, you fine as fuck.
It turned into a positive thing.
Yeah, it turned into a positive thing. Yeah, it turned into a positive thing.
Because if I'd have probably, you know, had some words with somebody,
then it wouldn't have never ended up being a positive.
So it turned into a positive.
You know, which everybody come down here,
tell Uncle Luke I'm in Miami too.
Okay, good.
Thank you, Dre.
Right.
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So, this famous
moment,
you talk about the Super Bowl.
What do you actually think about what happened in the Super Bowl?
Do you think, especially the greatest thing about this is your past with cash money and Lil Wayne.
But traditionally, you said it,
most people that's from that town,
when the Super Bowl happens,
it's not that talent.
So do you feel like Wayne was snubbed?
Or do you feel like, you know,
this was this man's job?
And most of the time, they pick the talent before they pick the city sometimes.
They pick the talent based on sometimes, sometimes.
I'm not saying all the time.
And sometimes it doesn't align.
So this is me sitting back and shutting up.
I would like to hear nothing.
You're a football expert.
And this part, I am not an expert at.
So, you have Instagram.
You are an expert.
No, no, no, not in football.
But this has nothing to do with the sport.
Okay, okay, entertainment, okay. This is the entertainment part of the sport. Okay, okay. Entertainment, okay.
It's the entertainment part of the football.
Okay, so you commented.
Where was you at and
how did you feel when you heard that?
I just wanted a natural response.
It brought up
fucked up memories
of when the Super Bowl happened in Miami.
Because I said something then.
Okay.
You know, I said something then. Okay. You know, and I said something,
and I called J-Out for it.
J-Lo?
J-Z.
Okay, all right.
He was a part of the Miami one, too?
J-Lo and Shakira.
I think that's when he eventually...
When he started?
That's when he eventually took,
from my understanding,
he took over the entertainment part of it
and booking the artists and everything.
And me and him had a conversation.
You know, I love him to death.
You know, that's my fucking guy.
So we had a conversation about that.
Right, you put sex behind him in your show.
It's cool.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so it ended up, and I expressed my feelings toward that.
You know, these two girls ain't from Miami.
You know what I'm saying?
And he told me his part of it, you know, why he thought they, you know, I'm like, look, look, Miami is, you know, I explained to him, this is a melting pot.
Right.
You know, and I know y'all doing something globally, but we got some global artists too.
You know, Pitbull is global rick ross is global you feel me and so you know uh
those artists should be and it ain't nothing about me those artists you're advocating consulted with
somebody around here before doing that,
because I only found out when I saw the fucking commercial.
You know, it was like, oh, you know, so we had that.
Okay, well, we'll work something out with this.
And so that situation with Wayne kind of brought that back up in me.
But then moving forward, after the Miami shit,
then they did it right in L.A.
They did it right.
Right, right, right.
You know, they did that shit right.
Okay.
After Miami.
After Miami,
because, you know,
I was fucking hot.
Even before Miami,
the dudes in Atlanta
felt some kind of way.
But I don't think
the people were involved.
Because we were room five in Atlanta?
Exactly.
Yeah.
You feel me?
Oh, I didn't peep.
That's like some very white man.
Atlanta had problems at first.
Oh, fuck.
So then, yeah.
If you want to do that shit.
I didn't peep that.
I'm so sorry.
Exactly.
That shit went over my head.
I got you.
Right, right, right.
If you want to do fucking Maroon 5 and all that shit, book the goddamn game in Buffalo and Kansas City.
In Denver.
In Denver and Minnesota.
You can have all that.
Do you want Country Weston?
Book the game in fucking, in goddamn Nashville.
Right.
Great.
It's like, I wouldn't, if somebody was to call,
if somebody was to say a hip hop artist doing a fucking Super Bowl halftime in Nashville, I would be the first one to say that's fucked up.
Because Nashville is the home of country western.
Right.
Okay.
Goddamn New Orleans is the home of blues and the home of cash money and masterpiece.
Right.
So it's only fucking right that you do that.
You know, so whoever involved.
So that's, you know, it's like, look, man, let's do this shit right.
You know, I love Kendrick Lamar.
I love what the fuck he do.
I never met him in my life.
I love his music.
But he's black and New Orleans is a black motherfucker.
I understand that.
He's black.
He's everything. Hottest fucking song ever. And he's one of the a black motherfucker. I understand that. He's black. He's everything.
Hottest fucking song ever.
I don't look at it like a diss to Lil Wayne.
I look at it as a snub of New Orleans music.
I look at it as snub cash money and no limit.
And everything that New Orleans music is all about.
I think they could have did a beautiful
halftime show
that encompassed all
of that.
But Rihanna performed, and she was nowhere
near from that city. Who?
She from...
I forget what Super Bowl it was.
Yeah, San Diego.
Right. But those are places you can do.
No, no.
There ain't no Super Bowl in San Diego.
They ain't got no football team.
He could drink a million drinks.
Get a team in San Diego.
But to Jay's, he commented on this.
He commented a long time ago.
He said that he couldn't stick consistently to picking artists from the specific city
because that would hold him to something he couldn't do consistently
because not every city would have.
Arizona, you can have anybody in Arizona
no disrespect to the
music community in Arizona but
you know when you look at 32
teams in 32 cities
right you got some
country western cities
you got some black ass cities
you can really
build the entertainment
around that
you go to Tampa
you know
I love some of the Tampa artists
but it's on a global
we're talking global
global artists
if you got global artists in that town
people watch television
around the world
people don't even watch television no more
exactly so again if I'm going to do the halftime in Tampa,
I can have anybody.
If I'm going to do the halftime in Minnesota,
I can have anybody.
If I'm going to do it in Nashville,
I can have anybody.
Right, see what you're saying.
These are NFL cities.
You feel me?
But then now when you go into Atlanta, Miami, New York.
Culturally, historically, these cities have something.
You go to fucking Buffalo and just put it,
whoever the fuck you want to put on there.
You know what I'm saying?
So I understand the argument that we can't tie it to that.
But yes, you can.
Because Buffalo getting ready to build a brand new stadium,
you need to have a Super Bowl there.
You had a cold ass Super Bowl in Jersey.
So you take all the people.
You're going to put Benny the Butcher and Griselda Blanco on.
That's up to you.
I mean, I would.
Griselda, the record label.
Griselda.
Who?
Those housewives?
Those are my niggas.
I love everybody.
No, no, no.
It's artists from From
Yeah that's artists from
From Buffalo
From Buffalo that are dope
Hip hop artists
Are they global?
Those my niggas
Yeah yeah
No that's
That's the point
So the point is
Global
Yeah and Lil Wayne
Is global
Oh absolutely
Lil Wayne is global
Lil Wayne is global
And by then
It would be
Lil Wayne
Let me tell you the moment
I would If it was me Lil Cash money Lil Wayne is global. But then it would be Lil Wayne. Let me take a moment. I would, if it was me.
Lil Cash Money, Lil Wayne.
And then we bring in Kendrick Lamar.
Right?
I know.
I know.
I know he's on the label with Drake and all that.
But then that would bring peace to the situation.
That's what I think people are thinking.
And think about it, though.
Actually, bringing cash money
and no limit together
is like bringing peace to the city
because they had issues before.
So that's even a bigger situation.
Of course they had issues.
No, I'm talking about
cash money, no limit.
I'm saying bringing those
two crews together
from their own city would be wild.
That would be, the city would go crazy.
That'd be banana.
That'd be banana.
You'll get the same vibe that you got with the LA Super Bowl.
And they both got hit records.
Major hit records.
But can Kendrick still do that?
Still perform and bring Cash Money and No Limit?
I think it's possible.
I think it's possible.
You can make it happen.
And Kendrick go right in the middle of that motherfucker.
I think Kendrick got something up his sleeve, to be honest with you, that's going to make something right out of this.
I hope so.
I think so.
I hope so.
Y'all got me hyped right now.
Because Kendrick is ill.
Both of y'all opinions, I did not think of.
What?
No, like how you just broke that down.
Like, I swear to God.
I just thought that
the NFL commission just said,
give us the hottest artists.
And how y'all just broke that down,
like both of y'all,
it had two different opinions.
But if that was to happen,
but then,
let's just be honest. Canrick really bring out little wayne at this
moment i mean i think i'm asking it's not impossible it's not impossible i i don't i'm
it's not impossible because the thing is again everybody have a sit down a conversation maybe it's a little
rough because lil wayne will feel like you know okay man you know i'm some side or something
like that and don't want to do it but then because y'all should it should have been really the other
way around me uh bringing him out and then now you know, it ain't going to be a
it ain't going to be a New Orleans thing.
It'll be more of a feature.
You know, you coming in on.
So it'll be
shit.
I've seen a lot of things happen, but
for me,
if it was me and it was
you know, that would be hard for me to go do.
And let's be honest.
We don't know until it happens.
You don't know until it happens.
Because they might do something that we don't expect.
Yeah.
Maybe this is a whole setup.
And got us all talking about this shit.
And we all like, yeah, man, man, man.
This is a setup for Kendrick and Drake to squash their beef on stage.
I doubt that.
Yeah, that would be a good setup.
They not like us.
That's wishful thinking.
It would be amazing. I'm spreading the wishful thinking. It would be amazing.
I'm spreading the rumor right now.
That would be amazing.
That would be amazing.
Yeah, but that's what, and that'll bring, you know.
Kendrick and Drake is squashing their beef on the Super Bowl stage.
Yeah, you say it, fucking someone.
In the world, like.
I'm playing.
And everybody in Buenos Aires is like, what the fuck is that?
That's true.
That's the thing.
We're talking about local shit in a sentence, and this is a global thing.
Global thing, yes.
People outside are like, I don't give a fuck about none of this shit.
What the fuck are they talking about?
What's their issues?
You know what's the craziest shit?
Hip-hop from Y'all Beef to whatever these people beef is.
I believe, this is what I believe the biggest hip hop beef
was there to beef just now
because no matter where I went
everyone asked me
because of the internet
because of the internet
and they actually
executed everything on the internet
on social media
it was all done live
we could all just watch Twitter, watch
Instagram, and they was dropping the
diss records in real time.
By the minute, they was executing
in five, four, three, go. Let's go.
Smurf would put out a
million records. I remember that night
when the shit was going down, I was there.
My wife and my kids, I was like,
I'm going to my office, I'm coming out
until it's just done.
Make some noise for how big his house is.
So, I know it's a cliche question, but I need to ask you.
You ever think that hip hop would make it this far?
I always knew it would.
You knew it would?
Yeah, I always knew it would.
Okay, now let me ask you another question, real fast.
You ever
thought your style of hip-hop
would make it this far? Because
it's crazy. One of the things that
you said in the blog, it's like, yo,
I could tell you was playing.
You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm fucking with the girls.
You're messing with the girls. I could tell. I know. You know what I mean? You messing with the girls.
I could tell. I know that.
I know that.
But
for everything you got critiqued with
and
I swear to God
I listened to the radio the other day
I almost
counted how many words was clean.
It was like 52 words.
The whole day?
Like, no, I'm talking about one record.
Like one record.
It was like...
No, and the words that were clean,
the phrases were outrageous.
Yes.
And I'm like,
I'm like, yo,
I'm a little courageous. Like, you actually have a whole genre of music that really does owe you.
I know you was playing around.
But did you think, I just asked you, ever thought that hip hop would make it there for you. Have you ever thought your version of hip-hop that you created with your own mind,
your crew,
would not only make it,
but it's the forefront.
Years later, you...
No, I never thought that.
In a million years.
I always, when I took the business series,
I always wanted to be like the OJs as an artist.
I wanted to be like Frankie Beverly, God bless his soul.
Because them dudes perform.
I know in order to stand the test of time as an artist, you got to be a great performer.
You know?
And so when I do shows, I perform.
You know what I'm saying?
And that's why I love Doug E. Fresh and people like that. shows, I perform. You know what I'm saying?
You know, and that's why I love Doug E. Fresh and people like that.
Oh, they best perform.
They put on fucking shows, you know.
And so doing the music, I know sex sells, right?
It would allow me to be able to go down a highway with no traffic because ain't nobody.
It's your own lane. It's your lane.
It's my own lane.
Even doing these album covers and shit.
We got to cover up, though.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah, you got to cover that up.
Fucking married guys.
I'm the only one that's not married no more.
Oh, man. You're not married, you said? No one that's not married no more. Oh, bad.
You're not married, you said?
No, no, no, no more.
That's why he was different back then.
He was married back then
when he was on Drink Chance earlier.
No, I was running for office or some shit.
And married, and married.
I was a fucking politician.
I'm back at this now.
I'm sorry.
No, no, no.
But yeah, it's... I'm back at this now. I'm sorry. No, no, no.
But yeah, it's...
See, we trail off into the... No, but let me ask you,
is there any regrets to anything you've done?
No.
Like you as the...
Because be honest,
you're a family man.
You got kids,
maybe grandkids.
Do you have grandkids?
one grandson
is there anything that you feel like
I regret because of
that it reflected on the family in any kind of negative way
no not at all
how do you separate
Uncle Luke from
family Luke
I know it's two people
I know I'm an entertainer, right?
My job is to entertain.
My job is to do music.
My job, you know, I'm like fucking Arnold Schwarzenegger in the movie.
I'm shooting up the fucking place, you know?
Well, you're shooting up in a different way.
No, I wasn't shooting up the club with the girls.
So I got, and then there's Luther Campbell, who my mom raised and all that.
And he's the businessman.
He's the record executive, the guy who has to be creative and be the father.
Because my kids right now, I mean, my son, 15 years old,
I've never had a kid ask me about music.
And they never seen the peep show?
I don't know what the fuck they saw, but they never came and asked me about it.
So you keep it separate?
Oh, totally keep it separate.
Now, I know this internet shit and these phones.
Right, you can't keep it separate now, right? Oh, that's my old man and shit.
You know, they know that.
But I've never had a kid
come to me and say,
hey, dad,
so what the fuck
you think about
when you did this?
So you never had
that conversation
with your kids?
Never had that conversation.
So the birth of B's
didn't include saying,
hey, when Jay-Z
and this was happening
behind their dad,
is this how it works?
Never had that conversation.
I mean, you know,
I'm an old school dad.
You feel me?
I'm like,
okay, we doing this, this, this.
Clean up your fucking bed
and do this.
Bring me some good grades.
I'm going to throw that
PlayStation in that
goddamn lake in the back.
You know, they...
Man.
I'm like, you know,
so they...
I guess they'd be like,
I'm not fucking going up in there talking no shit about no music with this dude here.
And they respect you enough to not even question it.
Yeah, yeah.
Right.
Yeah, I don't even know if they even know anything about it.
I mean, they obviously know.
They obviously know, yeah.
My son goes up to bat and they be singing songs and shit.
Yeah, yeah, they know.
They know.
But obviously that must be.
They can't be playing
they can't be playing
that way
or something
that's just crazy
my poor fucking son
nah but obviously
they have so much
respect for you
that they're not
going to come with you
the way that you
made the household
they're not going to
come with you
that bullshit
yeah yeah
you do what you do
exactly
I'm like
really old school
when it comes to that.
I don't put them around
shit. I don't talk
certain shit around them.
The vibes is, you know, my house, you come to my house,
what are you thinking?
Some poles and shit going on.
I mean, that's what I think. I go to your house, there's gonna be poles
and they coming out the ceiling.
Yeah, ain't none of that shit going on. You'll be like, what the fuck? Most people coming there like go to your house, there's going to be poles, and they coming out the ceiling. Yeah, ain't none of that shit going on.
You'll be like, what the fuck?
Most people coming there like, this your house?
Yeah, nah, motherfucker.
There's no hoochie mamas.
No.
No.
Do you realize how popular that word is?
Hoochie mamas.
You know where I got that from?
No, we do not.
We need to know.
Okay, here we go.
So Ice Cube sent me, we go. Ice Cube sent me
it was
Ice Cube sent me, he's like, yo,
I need you to do a song for
for...
This is when you beefing with
Death Row and Ice Cube's like...
Nah, that was when he had to
beef with someone. He wasn't being vindictive.
Nah, he was like, yo, I got this
movie. No, Ice Cube had nothing to do with the Death Row beef.
Wait, wait, come on, come on, come on. Because Hoochie Mama's just so
crazy. Okay, wait a minute. So,
it wasn't no
vindictive shit. It wasn't like... No.
He had nothing to do with Death Row. Remember,
Ice Cube was out of that situation. That's what I'm saying.
I'm thinking Ice Cube was being vindictive.
Oh.
Let me get Uncle Luke.
Because Uncle Luke Is beefing with
Death Row
So it had nothing to do with that
Oh no no
I didn't
I wasn't aware of that
But Q was never beefing with Death Row
He was beefing with Ruthless
Oh
I'm bugging
Yes
So he ended up saying
Hey look man
I need you to do a song
And then he sent me the clip
Of where he wanted to place
The song in the movie
Okay
And the girl was
And the girl was on there saying,
oh, you Hoochie Mama.
No, the dude was calling the girl a Hoochie Mama and all that.
And I was like, oh, there it is right there.
Hoochie Mama.
So Hoochie Mama came from L.A. again.
Yeah.
It came from the clip.
It came from, it was slain.
L.A., Miami, yo, that's how we.
Exactly.
It was slain out of that clip that they were calling the girl a hoochie mama.
And I took that and then I made the song Hoochie Mama.
And then the crazy part about it, two live crew had to went crazy again.
And then they came back, oh, we want to do music again together.
And, you know, and then I was like, OK, if y'all really want to do some shit,
we'll do something together.
And so I took this song, saying that, okay, we'll do this song.
It's going to be on this big movie.
We'll do this song together.
Then we'll put an album out afterward.
So we did the song.
Boom.
Song came out.
The motherfuckers went crazy again. It's like,
okay, all right, I gave y'all gas.
Again, they went crazy and I never
did anything else with them
after that point. What was the specific
thing with Lil' Joe? What happened there?
Lil' Joe used to work
for me as an entertainment
How did he get ownership of stuff?
In my opinion, he conspired
with with uh richard wolf this is my opinion he conspired with him who he went to college with
another lawyer and they then orchestrated some legal bullshit to uh to steal uh those masters. You know, he hired a lawyer.
Like physically steal the masters?
Well, not physically steal.
Like legally?
Legally.
Right.
Legally.
And so, you know, he hired this lawyer named Manzini.
Manzini then end up getting disbarred
because he was the worst lawyer ever, in my opinion,
and in the
court's opinion
and so
then he worked on the
2 Live Crew and got them
you know, the side with him
they had not, they were
getting ready to re-up with me
and so their contract
was over, they never re-signed
with me, they were supposed to re-sign with me doing that Hoochie Mama record.
Two Live Crew.
Two Live Crew.
And then they went, sided with this guy.
And then I had all these lawsuits going on with this MC Shadi, which they were saying, oh, he sold all these records.
And then, mind you, I had, then I ended up into an involuntary bankruptcy.
Lil' Joe went to different creditors because, if you don't know,
you can have three creditors say that you didn't pay them,
and they can put you into an involuntary bankruptcy.
All you got to take is three.
One motherfucker say your light bill,
you ain't going to pay.
Another motherfucker say the mop man
and the cigarette man.
So I ended up into that.
He orchestrated that.
The court found him guilty for that.
For doing that?
For doing that.
Oh.
We actually went to court because, again...
Like a conspiracy type thing.
Yeah.
And so, you know,
I had all these other
cases going with all this other sample
shit. And so I was like, okay, how do
you spell relief? You know,
fucking chapter 11.
And so eventually I ended up going chapter
11 and then
buying my way out of it.
But then how in it
they then kind of got
the ownership of the name
I gave it to Fresh Kid Ice
you gave it to Fresh Kid Ice
yeah I always say
I always said
majority rule
in the group because I
again you know I license
everything and I'm like yo y'all want to move that direction, y'all, good luck.
You know what I'm saying?
Right.
And so they got the name.
And eventually when they got the name.
Two Live Crew.
Two Live Crew.
They lost the name to him because Fresh Kid Ice had to file bankruptcy.
Whatever happened, he wasn't getting paid. And he ended up filing bankruptcy. Whatever happened, he wasn't getting
paid, and he ended up
filing bankruptcy. Then Joe ended up
getting control of the name.
And then
Brother Marquis, God bless his soul,
he ended up filing bankruptcy
because, obviously,
they were on that label, and
they weren't getting paid for their
understanding, and they had to eventually file bankruptcy in that case.
And right now, the most interesting part of it all is how me and Marquise came back together and Chris came back together.
It's through their families.
Because we're right now going to court to take the masters back.
From Lil Joe.
From Lil Joe, because 35 years of copyright.
They revert.
Yeah, it's supposed to revert.
So we got a hearing, actually in October, here in federal court.
They will get it right back to you.
To get the masters back.
And Marquise was living when all was going on.
Started, right.
He sided with us.
Mr. Mix is over there with them.
With Lil' Joe?
Yeah.
Really?
Fresh Kid Ice family is here because Mr. Mix is running around as the 2 Live Crew.
Right.
They book him.
So you see a show, 2 Live Crew.
You think a 2 Live Crew is coming?
No. It's him only. crew right they book him so you see a show two live crew you think a two live crew is coming no
it's him only and probably some of his other friends uh on stage singing the songs right you
know i'm saying so that's what you get like i get a lot of people ask me like yo you performing here
in newark no you know i'm saying so um uh he allows him to use the name because he owns the name.
It's like licensing.
Yeah, he allows him to use his name.
But whatever deal they got, I don't know.
But at the end of the day,
we'll be in federal court down the street.
Damn.
That's unfortunate, man.
Hopefully, you know,
God willing, we get this catalog back.
And the beautiful part about it, because, you know, Mark we get this catalog back and the beautiful part
about it
is because
you know
Mark didn't die
God bless his soul
God bless
that
you know
getting that catalog back
those
their families
can be able to
you know
feel
they be able to
take care of their family
right
if they decide to sell it
or if they decide to
let it mature
and do whatever they want to do.
Because, I mean, there were a couple of times in the in the they try to settle in the court proceedings.
I was like, no, fuck that. You know what I'm saying? I was like, look, whatever he offering y'all, I'll give you double.
You know, and to the family, to Chris family and Mark when he was living.
And I was like, look, I'll give you double.
You know, we're going to see this shit to the bus out
because that music don't belong to him.
It belongs to us.
We made it.
I mean, we fucking was living in apartments doing music.
You know what I'm saying?
And this fucking guy, in my opinion, you know,'m saying this fucking guy uh uh in my opinion you know
got away with murder all right let's talk about this biopic world packer is this still happening
yeah yeah i mean the crazy part about i mean we have a couple wrinkles that we're working out
that i'm pretty much working out on my side of it.
You know, because when you get into these biopics,
you kind of want to be able to –
You've got to be there to do it.
You've got to have some kind of control.
Yeah, you have to.
Yeah.
And now the Strater Compton one set the bar.
You've got to –
Yeah, yeah.
You've got to be –
Yeah, so you can't be like – you can't be, you got to, you know, so that's where the sticky parts of it at.
Like I was talking to my lawyer today about it.
But it's still happening.
Yeah, it's still happening.
I mean, I got like a couple of different, I should sign that contract no later than the next two weeks.
You and Will Packer.
Me and Will Packer, yeah and Will Packer, yeah.
Will Packer is very important for him
because he's our...
Back director and super talented.
And he's from Florida.
That's important.
Wait, I didn't know that.
I thought he was from Atlanta for some reason.
No, he's from Tampa.
For some reason, I thought he was from Atlanta.
Yeah, and he's from Florida.
That's important.
So he lived that shit.
He understand.
He went to FAMU. You know what I'm saying? Will understand. He he lived that shit. He understand. He went to family.
You know what I'm saying?
Will understand.
He was at the parties.
He was at the parties.
He understand the party.
He know the culture.
At least he wasn't at,
his mama was at the parties.
Whoa,
whoa, relax,
man.
You went too far.
Stop that.
My bad,
my bad.
My bad.
Will is my man.
Yeah,
but that's.
Great fucking guy.
Great guy.
I mean, so it all makes sense.
And then it all makes sense to do that right now.
I mean, I love the good part about it.
I mean, we did Freak Nick and Warriors documentary.
I did that with LeBron.
I love this.
You know, Shaqem kind of pushed me.
Played with you in the Shaquem?
Yeah.
Kind of pushed me to get into the.
Wow, Shaq's in it, man.
Shaq's in it.
Yeah, Shaq.
I'll bless you.
He pushed me to tell stories on, you know, through video, through visuals.
So I've been.
You have to.
You're laying down history, man.
It's needed.
Because if you don't tell it, nobody else will.
If you don't tell it, nobody will.
And that's the beautiful part about it.
You know, nobody knows our story.
Nobody knows it.
You know, I used to feel real fucked up some kind of way that we ain't on the cover of Vibe.
You know, we only got Source and nobody's talking about us.
But then when I look at it right now,'m like damn that's some good shit because we
got so many stories to tell
you got IP
I got the shit you know I got all the fucking
I got the fucking Daytona Beach
I got you think Freak Nick
was this and I got all you know and I
got the whole plan
it was the first Instagram
you think so? yeah
you documented all this shit.
That's deep.
So I need a fucking check from Instagram.
The girl's at Instagram.
Let's go.
Let her fuck y'all.
You got to give me Instagram.
Send me my motherfucking check.
Bitch better have my money.
Let me ask you a question.
Everything you've been through.
You got kids. You got kids.
You got grandchildren.
You said one.
One.
Congrats.
Goddamn.
True look fashion.
You still never watched Star Wars?
I used to watch it.
Don't watch it.
After they sued.
No.
Never watched it.
Fuck that. No, you said you used to. You used to. Before. Don't watch it. After they sued. No, never watched it. Fuck that.
No, you said you used to.
You used to.
Before they sued me.
Right.
I was just, you know, fuck Star Wars.
Fuck George Lucas.
Damn, man.
I like Star Wars.
God damn it.
Fuck Darth Vader.
Fuck that.
No, J. Joe Coles, he just rest in peace.
He's dead.
No, but nobody knew he was really Darth Vader.
You know what I'm saying?
We know that. No, but a lot of people out Darth Vader. You know what I'm saying? We knew that.
No, but a lot of people out there, they thought it was.
Because you know when the guy took off his mask, he was a British dude.
Listen, they put the black man in a black outfit.
Yeah.
He was the fucking bad guy.
No, he was just a voice.
Really, he was a British white guy.
Your voice is who you are.
Oh, it's true.
It was who the fuck he was.
The black guy. Fucking George Lucas. But he was the illest dude. But let me, no, no. The British white guy. Your voice is who you are. That's true. It was who the fuck he was back then.
Fucking George Lucas.
But he was the illest dude.
But let me, no, but real talk.
I mean, George, I mean, this motherfucker got $500,000 from me.
You had to pay?
That back then.
You had to pay?
I want my fucking money back.
You had to pay that lawsuit?
I want my money back.
I ain't playing.
Hey, George Lucas, I doubt you listen to drinks just because. Pay, motherfucking Luke. That's the motherfucker. Pay him back? I want my money back. I ain't playing. Hey, George Lucas, I doubt you listen to drinks yet, but pay motherfucking Luke.
That's the motherfucker I want my money back.
He got how many from Disney?
Half a million dollars.
What did he get from Disney?
He got billions?
Billions.
Give Luke his money back.
This motherfucker here with interest.
But why did he sue you?
Luke Skywalker.
Tell us.
Break it down. I'm like, I'm a DJ. My DJ you? Luke Skywalker. Tell us. Break it down.
I'm like, I'm a DJ.
My DJ name, Luke Skywalker.
Right?
So.
Why'd you pick that name?
Just so we know.
I kind of got the idea from Kenny Skywalker.
The basketball player.
Yeah.
Right?
I think during that time
and so it was like
Luke
Sir Luke
my first name was
Sir Luke
he was a
he was
a British gentleman
no one would have sued you
he was a knight
so
no but I wouldn't have
got sued
Sir Luke would have
not got sued
but how the fuck
that have been
what history
Sir Luke Rutgers
you never know the fucking might have been? World history. So many records. You never know.
What have been the queen's favorite?
Like H-Town, the Jets.
The Jets and the queen would have been twerking.
You got to learn.
You got to learn.
Go ahead.
I was thinking these cool ideas.
I mean, no strippers and shit.
No twerking.
No twerking, y'all.
Yeah. No twerking, y'all. Yeah.
No booty shaking.
So at the end of the day, come on, that's my DJ name.
Luke Skywalker, Luke Skywalker.
It was really, I want to say it was before the Star Wars movie.
Then the Star Wars movie came.
I said, okay. Then I started this record company because my DJ name's Sir Luke, then Luke Skywalker DJing.
So then now I end up going, what ends up happening?
You got this Star Wars shit going on.
I actually said, well, you got New York life.
You got this.
You got Kenny Skywalker,
you know, you can have, you got Miami this, Miami that.
You know, I'm not doing, I'm not the white guy with no shit.
I'm not doing a movie.
You know, so in my mind, I was okay. It deals the same lane, right.
I was, because I wasn't doing a movie and I wasn't portraying the character
and I wasn't in a movie and I wasn't portraying the character and I wasn't in violation
of no copyrights
in my mind
so this during the controversy
I still
this is me because I know how the bullshit works
I still got
a letter
from George Lucas
asking for authorization
to use the name.
He's asking.
He's sending you a letter?
I sent him a letter.
You sent him a letter?
And I got authorization
to use the name.
Oh, to ask him.
And he gave it to you?
Yes.
What the fuck happened?
So all the controversy going on.
You got the president
of the United States,
vice president, saying, oh, this 2 Live Crew music is horrible. You got the president of the United States, vice president, saying,
oh, this two-life group music is horrible.
You got the governor, Martinez.
Oh, this shit's horrible.
You got these lawyers writing letters to George Lucas.
How the fuck?
Dolores, what's her name?
See, Dolores Tucker.
You got the world coming down on me,
and they sending letters to anybody,
to venues, to radio stations.
They bulldozing CDs and shit.
And so they bum-rushed fucking George Lucas
with letters talking about, how dare you
let him use the name Luke Scott Walker?
You got to sue this motherfucker. So it was
about really draining me for
all my money. It put me out of
business. That was the whole plate.
You feel me? And so he then sues me.
But you couldn't use that letter that he
gave you the rights to do it?
I used the fucking judge.
They fucked the letter.
Oh, my God.
Bro, I was going through so many fucking hearings.
Even on Me So Horny, the girls who was, you know, on the beginning of the-
It wasn't horny anymore.
I got sued from everybody.
I was in court.
The judge was like, yo, the only way I wanted to hear this case was I wanted to see the bitches.
What?
The judge brought me in the back.
He's like, Mr. Campbell, I need to see you in my office without the lawyers.
And I go in the back and he was like, yo, man, where the fuck are me so horny bitches?
Oh, my.
I said, motherfucker, you got me up in here with the jury sitting out.
You can tell him, throw out the case.
He threw the case out.
Oh, he threw it out.
Oh, he's a good, he's a real nigga.
I went through so much shit, bro.
And look, there's so much shit I done forgot.
Now you got to put in the movie.
It's hard.
That's why it was hard for me to do a movie because I originally had to deal with Lionsgate
to do the movie.
And then...
Biopic.
The biopic.
But I was like, look.
Documentary.
Biopic.
I'm like, it's too much shit.
So that's why I started cutting up stuff.
I did the Warriors with LeBron.
Right.
On my football team.
Then I did Freak Nick.
Then I have another show that I have that's a part of my life story.
I say because I can't put it all in one.
You know, I could spend a whole movie on the whole censorship part of it.
You know what I'm saying?
It's difficult when I start looking at it.
I'm like, I may need to do a scripted series because this shit is really
difficult. Like Wu-Tang. Like Wu-Tang.
Ooh, that would be hell. Yeah.
That would be crazy.
So we kind of, I
was able to cut up a lot of stories
to be able to get those stories told.
I've carved out quite a few of stories to be able to get those stories told i i've carved out uh quite a
few other stories that i'm doing as projects in this thing because again you know when you sign
up with paramount or anybody like that they want all your fucking rights and so i did all these
carve outs of all these other projects deals back then yeah then? Yeah. Now, so I did Carp House
because I know what the movie is.
I know what the strip is.
We know what we're going to accomplish with that.
But then I'd say, okay,
I need to be able to do these stories right here.
You can't tie up my life rights
for all these other stories.
Right.
You know, my boy Evan worked with you
that worked with Cocaine Cowboys.
Yeah, we did. Evan's a good dude
we did Warriors of Liberty
yeah yeah
and he always advocates
for everything you're doing
yeah yeah
good dude
yeah Evan good guy
Bruce Springsteen
how the fuck
oh banned from TV
banned in USA
banned in USA
that's a ban from TV
that's you
yeah yeah
you put me in
you banned from TV you put me in. You put me and him together.
Did they kick you out of TV?
Yeah, kind of.
What happened?
Because I was following you.
And you was banned from the USA.
He wanted to be just banned from TV.
So you whipped out on TV?
Yeah, yeah.
He says, suck it.
All right, so you beat the court case.
I never looked at you as that kind of guy.
Because you're my uncle.
You're my uncle for real.
Oh, hell yeah.
You're my uncle for real.
But everybody realize how big Bruce Springsteen fucking is.
Yeah.
You beat the case.
How the fuck you get Bruce Springsteen
to clear the sap
or did you not?
Yeah, yeah.
He had to have cleared it.
We need to know.
No, he cleared it.
I mean, the thing is...
Okay, what happened?
It was...
That was the time
I was signed on.
Atlantic?
I did a deal with Atlantic.
The weird joint?
And so they facilitated that.
Toon Chair and him facilitated the conversation with me.
And I was like, yo, I want to do this song, this band in the USA.
I'm going to do this through Springtains.
Because this shit was born in the USA.
This shit was born in the USA. I'm going to do this through Springsteen. This shit was born in the USA. This shit was born in the USA.
And you flipped it to a band.
Exactly.
And I didn't want to do it
similar to...
I didn't want to go down the line of using it
without his
approval and consent.
Because I just
won the parody case.
The Roy Orbison Pretty Woman parody
case. So I just
won that motherfucking case in the Supreme Court
and I could have clearly said
that that was a parody.
Because these are, see, you're speaking
Chinese to us right now. Parody
case meaning that you could
emulate a record a certain way and it's legal.
Yeah, the shit what Will and, the shit that they do every day
on Saturday Night Live,
matter of fact,
they filed a brief
in support of me
where you could poke fun.
I can, you know,
they got a case.
You could be similar
to something,
but that's the parody.
Exactly.
You hate save sounds like.
Like, what's it called?
Weird Ali Yankovic.
He's doing parodies all day long.
Bobby Jibby and all them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So those are, you know, it's satire.
There you go, satire.
Basically, so when I went, I could have did it like that.
But I said, and that's why I say all these other fucking artists,
when y'all sampling people's voice and shit and putting them on record, you know, the respectful thing to do is call a person up.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, call a person up.
That's why, you know, even with the French Montana thing, I was like, felt some kind of way, like, motherfucker, call me up and be like, yo, man, I'm using
your voice in this shit, whether you sample
it or whether you paid Lil
Joe or whoever the fuck you paid, you got
my voice in this shit. You feel me?
Out of respect.
Out of respect.
So I think...
French is a great
guy, and he's a
great friend of mine.
And eventually
somebody's going to
sample French.
Right, right. Exactly. And so
I did that with Bruce.
And like I'm
I had the conversation with him.
Look at me. I need to speak to this man before I use
this shit. Right. You know, I want him
to wake up and see me
on MTV. He cleared it.
That was another bet that we all Do you think he cleared it because he understood what you shit. I want him to wake up and see me on MTV. He cleared his sample.
That was another bet that we all... Do you think he cleared it because he understood what you was doing
with the record? He cleared it.
He understood the mission.
That music should not be
used,
should not be censored.
So he understood the whole
vibe and everything
that I was fighting for.
And he was like, yo, I'm going to prove this and I believe in what you're doing and all that.
It was a nice little conversation me and him had.
And I was like, okay, that's some good shit.
But I really think it's really important.
And I love all these artists.
I'm flattered by the French Montaners and everybody else who sampled my voice in records.
But then at the same time, I think you should get on the phone and call, whether it's me or anybody else, and be like, yo, I'm going to...
I just tapped in.
Yeah, I just tapped in.
You feel me?
I figured out how to use you actually in the record, like in the video or something.
Is that considered checking in?
Yeah, you got to do it.
That's not checking in, though.
It's not, no.
It's not that.
Paying respect to what you're using.
Checking in is when you go somewhere.
That's not checking in.
No, that ain't checking in.
See, back in the day,
they used to check in
when they come to Miami,
but then everybody
got a little soft around here.
He threw a shot
at the whole city.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
But if my mother
had to check in for real,
hey, yo, I'm coming down.
Okay, all right, okay.
Yeah, but now, you know,
I left some other people
in control,
and they just fucking opened their legs up.
But...
I mean, you helped them, Luke.
But anyway,
anyway,
meanwhile, back at the ranch.
Back at the joint camp.
Yeah.
I'm going to tear this up
for one second.
You smoked all them fucking joints?
That's what you're talking about?
That's right here.
That's why you put them...
Oh, okay.
God, man.
Well, Uncle Lou, man.
We really...
I'm not speaking for you.
I'm speaking from
fucking
all the rappers that say some dumb shit.
Not dumb shit.
All right.
That say the shit they relate to.
If it wasn't for you, we wouldn't have none of that shit.
Do you realize that?
I just go about my business doing what I do.
You know, like a lot of people tell me that, you know, and they use them legend words and all that.
And I don't feel a certain kind of way.
You know, I'm just humble.
You know, I'm respectful for when people think of me in that manner.
And, you know, I appreciate it because I've for so many years, I've not gotten any credit for anything or any respect.
And my city has not gotten any respect and credit for the things that we've done.
You know, and I, you know, so I appreciate it,
you know, I really appreciate it, but I don't, I just, I just do the right thing, you know,
if I'm going to fight for free speech, I'm going to fight for free speech, I'm going to fight for
my community, I'm going to do that, if I'm going to fight for hip-hop, I'm going to do that. And so wherever it leads to being, you know,
wherever
it leads me to be or where
my place in history
is, it becomes,
you know, alright, that's
for other people to determine.
That's not for me. And so when
you know, when folks say
that, like you and you guys,
you know, giving my respect and other people, I'm humbled by it.
You know, I appreciate it.
But at the end of the day, I just go about my business trying to be the person that my old girl raised and my dad.
Well, let me say something, though.
Hold on.
No, no, no.
One of the things that I'm most proud of,
that people, they always think that Drink Champs
was born somewhere else,
is born and bred in Miami, Florida.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I'm always proud of that.
Being from here, like I always tell people,
nah, this is from the crib, born here,
with a legend from New York,
but is born in Miami, Florida.
You know what I'm saying?
They're from Miami and New York coming together.
And you know what?
Uncle Luke,
we truly, sincerely love
what you laid down.
Because I was.
Turks and Caicos.
Turks and Caicos.
You keep going back to that.
He just celebrated his birthday.
St. Thomas.
Now, look.
And the ladies, I had, like had like you know all my family
and they was
celebrating
I was like wait a minute
y'all listen to their language
and I was like ooh
and then
you're speaking English though
the language that
I was hearing and I was like, oh shit.
Because I'm 47 now.
So I was like, I don't know.
But then,
I remember
the first time I heard that shit
is when my mother
fucking
took a picture.
So, but,
Uncle Luke.
Hold on, because we...
What?
I got a couple...
You got a quick time to slide?
No, no, no, it's not one.
I'm going to take one more.
You got to take another.
Yeah, man, I'm a piss guy.
All right.
And you...
We established that you didn't watch Star Wars.
Yeah.
I know.
I watched it before I got sued.
Well, after, I think I got sued after it came out.
Before, I don't know.
But I know I don't watch that shit.
Because of?
The George Lucas thing.
I respect that that I got someone
Monster Energy
Dream
yeah
we wrapped it up
applause
applause
wait wait
let's EFN
let's
I ain't gonna lie I gotta give y'all Miami guys Wait, wait. Let's EFN.
Let's see if we know.
I ain't gonna lie.
I gotta give y'all Miami guys like a little extra time.
What is this?
But at the Pac Jam
at 17.
Rolling paper?
Damn.
Getting a long way
from them goddamn zigzags.
Talk about how you're
that close
to the community.
Are you close to the young kids
and the rich?
Oh, man.
I mean, shit.
You know, I think, you know,
I was a kid growing up.
I was a kid growing up in Liberty City
and I would have to go to South Beach
to play football.
Because that's the hood, right?
Yeah.
Overtime right there.
And then you got Liberty City where I'm from.
My old girl lived in town.
That's where they came from.
And I used to get bussed to Miami Beach all the time to play organized sports.
And so I always said if I would make two cents over my lunch money, you know,
I would have it where kids don't have to get bussed six o'clock in the morning all the way to Miami Beach to go to high school in a city where back then, if you were black, you had to be off the beach at six o'clock.
Other than that, you go to jail for overnight.
OK, hold on.
Let me stop you for once.
Because this is in my
notes.
And then we all watched Scarface, right?
We all
looked at Scarface and we was like,
we thought we was welcome
in that same
beach that Scarface was.
He was on a beach.
You said that black people wasn't welcome there?
No, no.
Black people at that time had to be off the beach.
You couldn't get caught on the beach after 6 o'clock.
You go to jail, spend the night.
Even black entertainers would go to South Beach.
It's like Sammy Davis and all them.
They would have to leave the beach. I literally love. Like Sammy Davis and all them.
They would have to leave the beach. I literally love to say Sammy Davis.
Yeah.
You're telling me Sammy Davis
would have got arrested?
Oh, hell yeah.
He dealt with that a lot.
He dealt with that a lot.
Even in Vegas.
You couldn't even stay on the beach.
You couldn't stay at the hotel
that Black people are going right now.
This is the same Miami Beach.
Same Miami Beach.
It's south.
It's still south. It's still second grade. Miami Beach is Same Miami Beach. It's south. It's still south.
It's still a second case.
Miami Beach is still,
they did a spring break.
The same place.
That's why you see this.
Is that Black Break?
Oh, it used to be.
There's no break now.
They did it Black Break.
They did it, yeah.
Oh, fuck.
But I mean,
when you know the history
of Miami Beach,
that is a part of their history of being racist toward African-Americans.
When you tell African-Americans you're going to go to jail and stay in the jail overnight and then get out at sunrise.
I mean, how bad that can be, you know?
And so, you know, people don't be understanding and knowing those histories.
Like, you know, I did.
I opened up a club over there out of spite because of that.
You took over Coco Bongo's.
Exactly.
And I put their club over there.
I'm like, well, I had it first.
It was a strip club, actually.
Really?
Yeah, it was a strip club.
They were trying to strip club.
They were trying to open up a strip club on Miami Beach,
and then they suckered them into building it,
and they had to pose and everything,
and it was like, oh, by the way, you can't get naked.
So it was Luke's before Coco Bongo's?
Yeah, yeah.
And you did the Players Club there, the Players Bar.
I remember I DJ'd.
Yeah, I did all kinds of shit there.
Ice-T was there and everything.
I DJ'd there.
Oh, no, I didn't do the players ball. That was something Shane did
in my garden. Oh, you remember that one?
Oh, Mike did that? Yeah, that was
their first party. They actually fucking went
broke. You got to hear the Mike
Gardner story. No, I know all them.
Yeah, yeah. They had Bishop Don
and all them. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I was
DJing with Ice-T.
Yeah. Ice-T was there. You see Mike's story.
You'll see him.
It was like, yo, we lost all our fucking money fucking with that party there.
And we owed it to everybody.
But yeah, that was some good shit.
I love when you're Miami niggas.
By the way, as a New York nigga that's been here 16 years, this was so great.
Thank you. nigga that have been here 16 years. This was so great. My uncle Luke,
I just want you to know,
you're my uncle.
I heard that
lyric, Uncle Luke, we in Miami
too. I want to say, change that
lyric and say, Uncle Luke,
you are my uncle too. Oh, I and say, Uncle Luke, you are my uncle
too. Oh, I like that.
Hell yeah.
You are my uncle too.
We love you and we want you to know that
this is something that
I'm a New York guy.
He's a Miami guy. We made this
in Miami.
This is your platform.
Sometimes if you want to go on Instagram live,
you can.
Just come here.
But it's better.
Just come here and go live with us.
I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
Better than come here.
I appreciate it.
Music,
everybody.
Exactly,
exactly,
exactly.
And fucking thank you.
All right, before we get up out of here, we've never done this before.
Anybody got a question for Uncle Luke?
Go ahead, Sonny.
Damn, fuck.
Why the fuck y'all call him Sonny?
He dark as fuck.
Is that like a joke?
That's his name.
That's his real name.
Sonny?
Okay, they named me Sonny. Okay's his real name. Sonny. Okay. Name me Sonny.
Okay.
Sonny B.
Sonny D.
D.
Nobody ever mentions the Carver Center.
Oh, the Carver Center.
The Carver Center.
I love the Carver Center.
I used to go to the Carver Center all the time.
You went to the Carver Center, Sonny?
I don't believe you, man.
Why?
Damn, he went to the fucking Carver.
I don't believe you, bro.
Did you ever do anything at the Carver Center?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, at the Carver, yeah.
So, I don't know if the Car the car this is the way I remember the car
it was an abandoned
movie theater
or a theater
of some sort
yeah
graffiti everywhere
rats in that
motherfucker
yep
but we enjoyed
every show
that happened
in that motherfucker
let me tell you
hey
it's so many
yeah it's still closed
it's so many
I mean I'm sure
it was condemned
yep yep did you go to the concert at the baseball stadium it's still closed. There's so many fucking... I mean, I'm sure it was condemned.
Yep, yep.
Did you go to the concert at the baseball stadium?
The one where I brought
Public Enemy
and Ice-T
and all them.
What year was that?
Man, let me tell you.
I did that
at the Miami Baseball Stadium.
It's tore down.
It's a fucking apartment.
No.
No, the old one.
Bobby Martinez.
What was it? Bobby Martinez Stadium?
Where the Orioles used to play
their summer games at. And I had
this big fucking car. That was
the first time
Chuck D and Public
Enemy ever rode on a jet.
Because I had a jet then.
And I sent, they were doing had a jet then. And I
sent, they were doing a show
in Atlanta and then I was like
I need y'all to do this show down here because I had
the baseball stadium back, the school jam
or some shit.
Probably had like 40,000
people in that motherfucker and
I sent my jet
to pick them up
and I thought they had been on jets before. You thought they had been on jets And I thought they had been on jets before.
You thought they had been on jets.
I thought they had been on jets.
Them motherfuckers fucking played the funniest shit in the world.
They hopped off that motherfucker like,
I never been on no shit like this in my life.
You know, but that was crazy.
Because, again, back then, you didn't have social media.
Right, so you didn't know what they was dealing with.
So my brother gave me the jet, and I would do a show here, a show there.
I would do three shows in one night.
Wait, your brother gave you the jet?
Yeah.
Who's your brother?
Tony Montana?
Something like that.
You got two fucking jets right now sitting in the house.
Pablo Escobar's your brother.
We don't know this.
Yeah, but I motherfucking bought three golf courses and shit.
Still got money.
But so way back then, he had a fleet of jets.
And so he was like, yo, you got to shit.
Just pay the fucking money on it and the maintenance and everything.
And so I would do shows that you could do it because there wasn't no social media.
I can do a show here, a show there, a show there.
I had to party somewhere else, and I'd fly to these different places and do three shows
a night.
Close enough that nobody would know, right?
Yeah.
So when I did that show, I was like, oh, let me just send my jet dad to pick you up.
That's why I be laughing at people right now with these jets and these yachts and shit
that's why Big
when me and Big did the song
he was like deep throat on loop boat
when the moon rises
and coming in your eyes is
just the way players play
every day
we was on my boat
and then we went to New York
and then he did this fucking song
I was like this motherfucker sitting up in there like this
I'm like okay we done cut this song
when B gonna go up in this motherfucker
that motherfucker went up in there and hit that shit
fucked me all up
one more thing
I just remembered that I wanted to ask you this
how much did Blowfly
have an influence on you
major major
it was more so Mr. Mix
because Mr. Mix was the one
who was doing the music
and was doing all the samples.
I loved the Leroy Skillets
and the Blowflies of the World.
Because they was talking crazy
on their record.
Yeah, because I had them records.
Mix had the records.
That's why me and him
was able to connect, like how we connected. That's records, Mix had the records. That's why me and him was able to connect.
Right.
Like how we connected.
That's what brought
y'all together.
That's what, yeah.
Okay, I get it.
Right.
Through that,
because, okay,
we was on the same vibe
and then if I'm like,
man,
we playing,
I'm DJing.
I'm playing Firecracker.
Man, we need,
that's a hot song
that we DJed.
Right.
You know,
the breakbeat of that.
Hey, Mix, do this right here.
And then I'm looking at this movie, Full Metal Jacket,
this girl on there talking about Miso Horney,
put that shit on there with the firecracker,
and that shit going to pop.
Right.
And so he would go cook it up, you know,
and all the blow, then he would add the blow fryer,
Leroy Skillet, the unanswered.
People didn't know she was on fucking Sanford and Son, but cursing like a motherfucker.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
How happy are we of DJ Khaled, man?
Shout out to Khaled, man.
Shout out to Khaled.
We love Khaled.
He's doing his motherfucking thing, man.
I'm fucking Nasty Quick, dude.
Can you believe that shit?
The motherfucking traveling phone salesman.
This nigga loves the Nasty Quick.
That motherfucker sell everything.
I love it.
I love it.
That's my guy.
Come on.
Everybody makes a noise with these dudes.
And you say he sell everything.
That's what Cali do. Yeah. Cal he sell everything. That's what Khaled do.
Yeah.
Khaled sells everything.
He's been saying another one since back in the day.
Another one.
Nasty quick, another one.
This is another bun.
That's what they call it?
Yeah, no, no, no.
Because you're supposed to have Nasty Quick, another bun.
Uncle Luke. I'm going to be honest. Yeah, no, no, no. Because you're supposed to have the next request, another bar. That's what's up.
Uncle Lou.
I'm going to be honest.
We all owe you in hip-hop.
Anybody who's ever dropped an independent record.
Anybody who's ever tried to live on their own
you know I tell my friends all the time man
live beyond your means
get the fuck out your motherfucking
mother crib
and go motherfucking
live
but I get that from you
any independent artist
in the world
you're the first
we wanna
give you your flowers
and that's one part of it
is giving you your flowers
physically
but it's always
the second part of it
is letting you know
how much
we love you
and we honor and respect that path that you paved for us
because me and this motherfucker right here,
he don't want to be the same way.
And you are the path of the way of being.
Stay in your motherfucking ground.
Don't be nobody different.
And that's what we have done.
That's what made us successful.
But that pathway has been Uncle Luke, two live crew,
and we want to give you flowers.
We gave it.
But we want to continue to tell you how much it's real.
And we love the fact that you can comment on
the new generation we love that
that shit is so
beautiful
make some noise
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