Drink Champs - Episode 430 w/ Ed Lover

Episode Date: October 4, 2024

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legend himself, Ed Lover!Ed joins us to share his hip-hop journey! Ed Lover shares stories of radio, film and music!Ed Lover shares stories of co-hosting the legendary TV show Yo! MTV Raps with Doctor Dré, which became the highest rated show in the history of MTV!Ed also shares stories of filming the classic comedy “Who’s The Man?” (film) which also featured cameos from Hip-Hop’s elite artist and personalities!So many great stories that you don’t want to miss!!Make some noise for Ed Lover!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆   *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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In case you don't know who we talking about We talking about the one and only Motherfucking Al Lama Wow I made drink chips That's right I made drink chips. That's right. I'm on drink chips. I'm on drink chips.

That's great. I like my cigar to this. I like your cigar. I like your cigar. Now, do we got the... Say language? No, easy. I was about to say it, man.

Do we have the easy Eclipse signed up? Look, this is a two part question I want to show you. You got the EZE clip signed up? I mean, you ain't got to show it to me, show it to him. Nah, but we want to see your reaction. Go ahead. I'm enjoying life. I'm going to the number one video in the country, man. Okay, okay, okay. I'll tell you. You know why I can do that? You know why? It's summertime, man.

Don't put out with the ruthless niggas for life and all that. What's up? Yo, what's up? Red. What's up? Now, Ed. Yeah. You actually, it says, it labels it as Ed Lover Smacks Eazy-E.

Well, there's different versions of that video with different titles. That's what it's labeled as. But then when you watch the footage, you're actually putting your hands. That's what we used to call back in the days of mush. Yeah, the smash. Why did you do that to easy? This is something that I'm quite sure he's going to bring it up. This is something me and Stretch from Lime Squad used to do to each other all the time.

Put each other in the smash. We even put our hands in each other's pockets and take their shit and throw it on the ground. Just putting each other in the smash. I was fucking with Eazy. Eazy, I just put the nigga in the smash. Y'all already had that kind of rapport with each other? Yes, yes.

Some people don't understand. Eazy was the coolest thing ever bro right like i remember one time we went and thank you and we did uh nwa in la and we was out in compton by compton swamp me i had the dead wrong ass color on for that name dead wrong is that the pickup wing i know freddy was on that was freddy with them okay we got out to go into the compton swamp me to shoot easy was like yo you gotta send the call man send the call for a minute and he went in and he got me a black windbreaker he got me a black raiders hat and a black he got you neutral he got me right he got me neutral because he was like it ain't an og that

'll do it to you young wild niggas trying to get a rep so he got me right so yeah easy shit was crazy so there's two things you asked what you answered one of the part is did you have a rapport before that but then the other part was he whistled something into your ear and everyone always wonders what because y'all going to the video after that right well everyone always wonders what was exactly did he whisper in your ear and everybody gonna have to wait for that fucking book. That is one of the biggest questions I ever get in my life. You see people on the thread. He disrespected Ed.

He said some foul shit about shooting Ed. Easy was a businessman. Easy knows if he had said some foul shit to me, he would have never got another video played on MTV. And by the way, it couldn't have been too crazy because it still got aired and you're all mic'd up. You're all mic'd up. And remember, he used to have the pool party, which was fucking debauchery. Right, right. Nigga, the Eazy-E's pool parties was fucking debauchery at its finest, my nigga.

I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. Eazy-E's pool parties. And we'll get to that too. Easy's pool parties was like what Luke was smart enough to do. Luke used to, when we used to come to Miami with Luke, Luke would bring all the program directors, all the radio dudes, all that,

and then bring in all the strippers and pay for everything. So when you left from Miami, you was like, shit, that nigga Luke. You always remember that Luke took care of you. So when you left from Miami, you was like, shit, that nigga Luke. You always remember that Luke took care of you. So when you got back, we was going to play you on TV. We was playing move something. Because Luke makes sure something moves when we're down in Miami. So we was playing that shit, bro.

And EZ was doing the same shit. EZ was just doing the same shit. He had a pool party, wet and wild, and girls all over the place, liquor, drinks, weed, whatever the fuck you wanted. He was doing the same shit. Wow. That was marketing. What do you think life would have been like if Instagram was back then?

Shit. First of all, I'd have been fucking super wealthy. Because I'd have probably had 200, 300 million followers. Right, right. For sure. Easy. Right. So I could have leveraged that corporately somehow, some way.

But shit, Instagram then, we'd all been fucked up. Right. world right easy right so i could have leveraged that corporately somehow some way but shit instagram then we'd all been fucked up yeah right for a lot of the shit that we was doing we'd all been fucked up i probably never been married if we had instagram shit it's real now i heard you say in the very beginning like you really what it really wasn't about money i don't remember if you said you wasn't making money or really wasn't't about money. You were saying you did it for the love. I would have did it for free. Wow. Honestly, because that's how much I love hip-hop. That's how much I wanted to be a part of it.

That's how much I really wanted to get myself involved in it. Like I've said on many interviews, I heard LL Rhyme and then I figured I wanted to MC after that. Right, right. He was just too nice and too young. You respected him too much. At 15, he was that nice. And I was like,

well, we're running them. They from my way. So we used to all rhyme. I was back when I was Eddie D. Everybody had a D on their name. I don't even know what the fuck the D was for. I was going to see Eddie D.

You know? And running them would come in the park and, you know, we rhymed with Ron and D come out. You know, D always had rhymes. So that was back then.

But when I heard this young 15-year-old kid from Farmer's Boulevard, bro, I was like, nah, I can't make records like that. Right. He was aggressive with it, too. Subject matter, delivery, his wordplay, everything. So I had to try to figure another way into this hip hop. And it was Yo! MTV Raps, bro. So let me ask you, because at that time, it was really just about being a dj or the mc right it really wasn't about being a vj you know although we had ralph before that right don't

forget the b-boys and the graffiti artists as well no what i'm saying is let me get to the point the point i was trying to make was like other than ralph i didn't see too many vjs right so what made you and dre like even even want to explore that world? That was first. That was first. And when I saw that, I saw the name Ted Demme on there. Ted Demme. Ted Demme was a dude that I knew from church.

Wow. Ted Demme's not from Queens. No, he's from Rockville. He's from Long Island. Okay. Oh, wow. Yeah, he's right there. Yeah, Rockville Center. That's where he's from, Rockville Center that's where he's from

so Ted Demme is Episcopalian his parents my best friend Kurt Flirt his mother is Episcopalian Episcopalian no not the religion the religion

Episcopalian so they would have the fellowship shit and and they were going to retreats, and Kurt's mom's always like, bring Ed, you know, keep Kurt out of trouble, but she didn't know that was more trouble. And then we met the little white guy from Rockville, you know, Long Island, and Rockville Center, and that motherfucker just knew hip-hop, and he loved the music, and he knew all of this shit about us, and that was Ted.

So we kept in touch all through high school. We used to take our block from our block to go to Rockville Center to play Ted and his friends, and then he'd bring his friends to us, and then we'd stay with him all through college and everything. And I saw that name on them credits, and I was like, what does Ted have to do with your MTV raps? Oh! So that was your plug. That was my plug. I'm going to tell you, I was doing a documentary called What What?

And when Chris Lighty saw it, Chris Lighty said, yo, I need you to meet this guy in LA. And his name was Ted Demme. I had that. I didn't know Ted Demme had did your TV rap at the time. Right. Ted Demme, they make us wait.

We're on a ping pong. Playing ping pong. Ted Dibney comes out with a guy who looks like Johnny Depp. And he just throws fucking cocaine on the table. And then Johnny Depp just sniffs the shit. Not Johnny Depp, the guy that looks like him. Hit me up. Hit me up.

So we're all, this is like two-way days. We're all like Yo We texting each other In the same room Like yo Did you see what I seen Come to find out It was Johnny Depp

It was fake cocaine They was promoting The movie Blow Oh Yeah This is before This is There was like

Should we use this As a promotional item And that's when I knew Ted Demme was out Of his fucking mind Yeah Ted did Blow Ted did the movie Blow No Ted did Blow. Ted did the movie Blow.

No. Ted directed the movie Blow. Ted directed the movie Life with Eddie Murphy and Marlon. Yes, yes. Yeah, that's Ted did Who's the Man. Ted did Who's the Man. Yeah, Ted did Who's the Man. So what made you stick with him?

Because, all right, cool, your MTV was blowing up. You have your chance to do your own movie. No, but don't cut through everything. I want to know when you connect with him and how he actually gets you the spot. In church. No, but're on TV blowing up. You have your chance to do your own movie. No, but don't cut through everything. I want to know when you connect with him and how he actually gets you. So I start. No, but actually gets him the spot. To get to your own TV wrap? Yeah, yeah.

So I start. I saw Ted's name. I got the number. I start calling him. Right. I'm like, Ted, you got to get me on this show, man. I know hip hop like nobody else knows. I'm in love with it.

It's my thing. He's like, we already got Fab. I was like, well, you know, hip-hop touches everything and make everything dope, so let me come on and do a record report. Let me do a movie review. Let me do something. And then they decided they wanted to do a daily show because the show had blown up.

The show actually blew up when Run D and Will and them did the pilot from their tour. That's what really set the whole shit off. Then they hired fab you know fab was downtown you know deborah harry everybody loved fab yeah no deborah harry had fab five freddie told me that is my wife i knew the only person that was gonna come to us um because fab five freddie told me everybody fly dj spin so fab was on he was on he was a graph

artist he's like the ambassador of hip-hop at the time absolutely him and him and bosco just like this like there's so much layers to Fab that people don't know about. And then Fab didn't want to do The Daily Show because he was also directing. He did like, I think he did self-destruction. I think he did KRS-One videos. He did a lot of videos. So he was directing too. So he did not want to do it.

So they had to find somebody to do The Daily Show. Peter Doherty, who's the executive producer knew dre from dre being a tour dj for the beastie boys ted knew me i did not know dre right before y'all dre was a tour dj beastie boys yeah for the beastie boys before hurricane yeah so you know dre dre and t-money also co-wrote oh i'm proud to be black for run dmc off the reason you know he was signed to defMoney also co-wrote I'm Proud to be Black for Run DMC off the Razorhead album. You know, he was signed to Def Jam. They had their group.

They were signed to Def Jam. Knowledge, me, I mean, that was them way before I even knew Dre. We just did it over when we did the Back Up Off Me album. Ah, my wife is killing me. Jeez. Okay, so we did that. And Ted saw it. He saw Laurel and Hardy.

Dre had already auditioned, went back and was talking to Peter in Peter's office upstairs. I'm in there with Ted, and he's putting me on tape. And then Ted called Peter and was like, is Dr. Dre still there? And he was like, yeah. He said, send him to my office. And he come down. He said, I'm going to put y'all on tape together. And I remember asking Dre.

Ted had just come back from Jamaica or something. He had the dreadlock wigs in there. And I was like, Dre, can you speak Patois? He's like, no, my father's Jamaican. I was like, bet. So we put the wigs on

and we did some crazy Jamaican shit. And Ted was like, that's what I want, Laurel Hardy. And he took it to MTV. And MTV said, we got money to pay one person.

And me and Dre said, we'll split it. And we took it. Wow. Thanks so much for that. it. And we took it. Wow. So look, one of my favorite things to do when we come here is

see if the artist is on time. I knew he was going to be on time so I didn't take that back. I didn't take that back. I was like, yo, his radio background and his professionalism he's not going to be late. He's not going to be late. Man, I've been waiting to be on this fucking show, man. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

I'm like, that's my nigga. No, it's not. Hold on, my second thing. Why the fuck am I not on the drink show? We've been trying to do this. We've been trying to do this. My second thing is to always know what the artist is drinking. Now, you ordered one of the most unique drinks ever on Drink Champs History. my second thing is to always know what the artist is drinking right now you

ordered one of the most unique drinks ever on Drink Champs History yeah let's see what that is okay now what is that that is

Basil Hayden Dark Rye it's bourbon it's whiskey it's whiskey bourbon yeah okay we put in a special order

let's get this here let's leave that there for him we put in a special order because you're a special type of guy, and we had to do something special because we said we're going to make sure you got that. But then we got you. Oh, hell no.

No, you didn't. No, you didn't. Hold on, man. Hold on. Wow. Wow. Wow. Now, this is special shit right here, y'all.

I told you I had to do this. All my boys at my man Cam Newton's spot, he got a spot, a cigar spot called Fellowship, a CRA, Life and Times, and Pleasure Chats. All of them is like, bring that home. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, bring that home right there. That's special. Thank y'all, man.

Thank y'all, man. Yes, yes, yes. Wow, that's crazy right there. I was so happy because I've been waiting for somebody to order American whiskey. Right. And I'm like, yo, just see what he ordered. And then he, who was it? Mr. Lee?

Who sent the picture? And I was like. No, I sent the picture, yeah. You sent the picture? Yeah. And I was like, I sent it, I forget, I think to Diego. I was like, is that American whiskey? And I was like, yeah, I said, I hope he loves this Pappy, because we going in.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, we going. Now, how do you drink Pappy? I drink Pappy. I might chill it just a little bit. Just a little bit? I said, we're going to do it with a little ice there. So neat.

Yeah, we're going to do it. I'm going to do mine. Just a little bit and let it breathe. Sometimes you can just drop a thing of water and just a little bit of water. But that's Pappy. That's different. You don't really, you don't fuck with it too much. Maybe I'll throw a big ice cube in it and rock, but that's Pappy.

Right, right. You savor that flavor. I told you. You savor that flavor, bro. That shit hard to get. Yeah, y'all drink champs for real came up with that shit. I was waiting for you. That shit hard to get.

They be having lines outside of liquor stores when they do a Pappy drop. Yeah. Hell yeah. That's 12-year too? Hell yeah. So let me ask you, how did you get to Atlanta? outside of like liquor stores when they do a Pappy drama. Yeah. That's 12 year too? Hell yeah. So let me ask you, how did you get to Atlanta?

I know I'm bouncing around, but I want to know like, you know, because I want to get to a birthday party. That's my son over there that you came to that. Let's talk about that first. When we both lived in West Orange, I don't know if you still got that career.

I am so glad you brought that up because I swear I was going to bring it up in West Orange, I don't know if you still got dick to wear. I am so glad you brought that up because I swear I was going to bring it up if you didn't. A lot of you don't know, not a single birthday party had Chris Lighty and Ja Rule the week there before Ja and 50 Star beat me. That's right. I swear to God, it was at my crib

at Lovers Park, the only person there, and he's too young to even know who was at his fucking goddamn party. Remember, Chris Lighty lived down the block from you. Chris Lighty was my next door neighbor. Yeah, your next door neighbor. Yes. God rest his soul.

He was my next door neighbor. Can I tell you a quick Chris Lighty asshole story? Yes, let's go. Okay, so I lived directly next door to Chris Lighty. Chris Lighty had blacktop in his driveway. When I moved in, Chris was already there. I didn't have a driveway. I had the circular thing there,

but it was dirt. So I called the paving stone niggas. Come put these $15,000 paving stones. I didn't think about Chris. I was just thinking about beautifying my house. Paving stones, they got an interlock. It's not blacktop. So Chris rings my bell one day and goes, that's what you're doing?

I'm like, what the fuck is he talking about, Chris? He said, you see me, I got the ass-fall black top shit you're going to put down the paving stone? I said, Chris, I wasn't even thinking about you, bro. I just put the paving stone. He said, who's your paving stone dude? So I gave him my paving stone dude. Paving stone dude come, they tear his driveway out, they put down paving stones. He is

and Nori will attest to this by taking his asshole, Chris. Wintertime comes, I'm shoveling my shit. Chris got just as much snow as I got. I said, Chris, you ain't going to shovel your snow? He said, come in the house. He clicked the shit he had heat put under the motherfucker.

Just so he could outdo me. What a fucking asshole. And I loved him, though. Man, I loved that nigga. I ain't shoveling shit, Clay. I was like, wow. That was the time. It was, I believe, Lauryn Hill lived one there.

Oh, Salud. Salud to the papi, baby. God damn, hell yeah. Sorry, fellas, I ain't bringing none of this shit on. So I remember Lauryn Hill lived one where Redman lived down the block. Ja Rule lived here. I lived here. His jersey?

Yeah, Chris Lighty lived here. I'm talking about in a 12-minute span. It's a hip-hop neighborhood. And Ja Rule, and then Chris Lighty, and Lover. And Latifah. Latifah. And whatchamacallit, KG from Naughty. Okay, yeah.

But I would go to Shore Hills Mall. And this was, for lack of a better term, Atlanta, this was like the first almost Lenox Mall. Yeah, it was. Because we would be deep in there. But moving around, the death of Chris Lighty. I still don't believe Chris Lighty took his own life. I will never believe Chris Lighty took his own life. I will never believe Chris Lighty took his own life. Chris Lighty was too full of himself to take his own life. Chris Lighty was too full of life, too much love for his children,

and too much love for this business for him to take his own life. I don't think anybody that was closely associated with Chris in any manner, and you were probably closer to Chris than I was. We were neighbors when he was hardly home. I'm moving it in our own directions. We had barbecues together. We gave our kids Summer and Christian. You were there. You gave them the big birthday party and they both slept through it

because they were only one year old. You spent $15,000 a piece on the fucking horses. All kind of dumb shit. It turned into an adult park. Right? But that's how much life Chris had in him. So I will never ever, ever believe ever believe i don't

give a damn what nobody says that chris lighty took his own life that's one thing that i will never believe so your son's back to your son's birthday yeah yeah go ahead okay so chris tells me we're going we're going by nori house right in fact i'm thinking cnn this time in fact nothing to cut you okay continue continue i'm thinking CNN, Nory. He's managing J.R.R. Ward this time. In fact, nothing to cut you off. Go ahead, continue, continue. I'm thinking CNN, Nory, War Report. We getting ready to hit the bridge. I'm not going to the fucking project. I get some money now.

I'm not doing that shit. We turn the corner into this fucking beautiful fucking home. And you know, okay, so I'm thinking, okay, the house is nice, but it's going to smell reek of weed and feet and shit. This nigga was living like a Cosby. Yo, when I walked in, it fucked me up. I'm like, this is normal. This shit is nice. He had a character.

He had way out of his character. Like, this shit fucked me up. I had it because, you know, in my head, I'm like, this is what? What? Normie? Shoot him up? Kick the buildings over? Him and Capone? And this nigga was'm like, this is what? What? Normie? Shoot him up? Kick the builders over? Him and Capone?

And this thing was just like watching TV. Nice couch. This shit is sectional. It's funny. Fat Joe told me the same thing. He's like, people don't know you live like this. Exactly. I think I have potpourri in this house.

I still do. I think I have potpourri. Oh, man. Oh, man. Yo, look. All right, let's get this. So, Ed, let me just tell you something. We've been trying to do this forever. You know, I said it in the intro.

If it really wasn't for you, you set the standards because there was other people on the radio. But I feel like there was other people that was imitating. Like there was one person on the radio. Then when you got to meet them in person, it was whole different individual yeah you was what you're one of the first people that i got to see witness for myself you were who you were on the radio you were who

you were when i sent you in queens you were who you were in real life so we want to give you your flowers face to face man to man mr lee we work it up thank you give him his flowers thank you thank you well you know something norway that's what i always strive to be because i grew up Man to man. Mr. Lee, we work it up. Thank you, bro. Give him his flowers. Thank you, man. Face to face, man to man. Thank you. Well, you know something, Norrie? That's what I always strive to be because I grew up listening to radio like every night. Frankie Crocker. Frankie. Oh, bro.

That was awesome. Oh, wow. Wow. Wow. And the gifts keep coming. It's beautiful, man. Thank y'all, man. I appreciate that.

Yeah, it's the Frankie Crocker. Every night, right? You knew it was 8 o'clock. Uh-huh. When I dare I go, the Frankie Crocker. Every night, right? You knew it was 8 o'clock. When that There I Go, There I Go came on the radio. So you knew it was 8. And then I would listen to Chuck Lennon and the cats like that. And I love Chuck Lennon and all that, but he always put on a voice. Right.

This is Chuck Lennon. That's the old school radio shit. That's the old school radio shit. So I was like, if I ever get the opportunity to get on the radio, I'm going to be me. And the same person that you're going to get outside of the radio is going to be the same person that you're going to get on the radio. And my man Bugsy, big shout out to Bugsy, was very instrumental in making sure that I stayed that route. All you can be is yourself, man. You can't be nobody else.

I'm a one-on-one, so that's the way I look at it. You know what I mean? I'm going to do me no matter what. I don't even care. I'm just going to be me. That's fine. But all right, let's bounce around a little bit

one of the most one of the first times the industry got to see Pac be out of control like maybe he was out of control before that

but it wasn't documented right was that your own TV rap where you can kind of tell y'all got a relationship already and you know the higher ups is not going to like

because I don't Because I don't think when you were stopping them, it was about you stopping them from dissing the Hughes brothers. I think it was you stopping them, and you correct me if I'm wrong, you stopping them because you know where this would have led back then, the higher ups and the people who said that. I was always

a person that think a little bit sometimes. I knew when Pac was going off, I was like, this ain't gonna be good because you got a case. So you're actually going on television saying that you did what they accused you of. So I was like, before you bury yourself anymore,

let me shut you up, bro. Stop. And they subpoenaed that shit. They did. You know what's funny about the footage? After I keep looking at it, y'all didn't have to bleep him. He edited his own self. He was wilding, but he didn't care. When I look back at it, I'm like, why do I have a Carl Canard vest on and no shirt?

Like, what the fuck was I thinking? I'm on some sexy shit. I'm like, what about that Spencer McWilliams? What the fuck did I think of him? Like, why did I have a shirt on? Always looking at the stupid shit. So you also, what I noticed is, your show was on 60% of the time. Yeah.

I was like, what? I was like, what? I was like, what? I was like, what? I was like, what? I. Like, why do I have a shirt on? Always look at the stupid shit. So you also, what I noticed is your show was on six days a week. Yeah.

Monday through Friday, twice on Saturday. Yeah. That is a successful ass show. Yes, sir. Thank you. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration

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To the entire Country if not even further than that Right yeah we're in around the world And people are recording it like mixtapes Yeah we're worldwide bro and for My perspective more so recording it like mixtapes. We're worldwide. Yeah, we're worldwide, bro. And from my perspective, more so than Dre, because Dre had already had a foot in the door, and I really didn't. I was a fan, bro. Like, I would fan the fuck out when I found out certain people were coming to the show.

I'd be like, oh, my God, Public Enemy is coming. Chuck D, for real. I'm like that on Drink Champs all the time. Yeah, that's how I am. I was a fan of the music, so to be able to sit down and talk to dudes about their music and their art and their culture, and if you look back at it at that time, it really was about the art. It really was about the culture of hip hop. It really was about the music. Look at some of them old videos. Nobody's sneakers was clean, son.

Right, right. Nobody had no clean sneakers. Nobody could afford no wardrobe style. They could afford whatever they had to wear. There was no wardrobe change. could afford no wardrobe style whatever they had to wear there was no wardrobe change there was no wardrobe change so you had to

they wanted to do this shit like you wanted to be known as being one of the best coming from your neighborhood you wanted you know what I mean like they say

pressure makes pipes right I mean pressure makes diamonds right so when KRS-One dissed the whole and fucking entire Queens which pissed me the fuck off because I was like all of us ain't got no beef with you. You got beef with them Queens rich niggas.

Take it out on them. Why you dissing Hollis and Southside? I was fucking pissed. It put the pressure on Queens. And then look what came out of Queens after that. Look at the notable shit that has come from that borough that was so highly disregarded and disrespected. That's why I'm so fucking proud to come

from Queens, bro. I'm so proud to be from Queens. I wear that shit like a badge of honor. I got King from Queens tattooed to my arm, bro. I rock special. They used to disrespect us like crazy. Call us the desert. Y'all niggas is corny. You know what's crazy? What's ill They used to disrespect us like crazy. Call us the desert. Y'all niggas was corny.

Right, Dory? They hated us. But you know what's crazy? What's ill about that is 5% has made that derogatory expression, the desert, it made it fly. Right. Because 5% took that and was like, oh, the desert. And it was like, it was cool to be from the desert. You know what I'm saying? They said Mohammed walked through the desert.

That's right. And all this great. I mean, but I'll tell you what. Me seeing Run DMC, me seeing LL come before me, knowing where they from, it always gave me hope. Was that something that was in YouTube? Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely.

Being four blocks away from Jam Master Jay. Watch them make it and watch Jay have crab feasts at his house and invite everybody there. I was there when they sent the buses to Hollis Avenue and said, anybody want to come to the garden? You come for free. That's the night Ron took the shoe off and held it up. They got the Adidas deal that night. So everybody wearing Adidas, turn the fucking lights on. Everybody had an Adidas on. And that's the info.

They got the first shoe deal of a non-athlete. First shoe deal. That inspired the shit out of me, man. I was like, if they can do this and LL can do it

and then Salt-N-Pepa is from Queens and Kwame is from Queens and Kenan Play is from Queens. Eric B is originally from Queens. If you see... Martin Lawrence

spent some time in Queens. Martin Lawrence was in originally from Queens. If you see Martin Lawrence spend some time in Queens. Martin Lawrence was in Queens a lot. You got Marley and Chan and Shante and Nori and them from Left Rack and all of these guys

coming from Queens. Man, running there was the biggest inspiration for me and Russell than anything else. Knowing that they were that close and they were touchable. DMC used to always come around.

DMC had a big ass Bronco with a fucking freezer built into the back of it with nothing but 40 ounces of Old English. A black Bronco. Did he mention that? And he always had a rhyme. He always had a folded up rhyme in his pocket.

He'd pull it out, kick a rhyme to you real quick. So he was very inspiring to me. And relatable it seemed like. Very relatable. Hell yeah. A lot of people don't know it was one time that they dressed, like, different, and then they took the top. Super nerds, my niggas. Super nerds, yeah.

With the plaid jackets on and corny shit. That was Jay. Yeah, Jay Menzies. Jay is their whole style, everything. D don't deny it. Run don't deny it. Yeah. They say they got all that shit from Jay.

Jay was the one that had the Adidas on the fucking big rope. Jay did shit. Jay did all that right yeah well you know jay isn't man damn rest in peace yeah rest in peace of one of the one of the greatest of all time bro now you also we we love the story the grandma yay story with big well well i love that story because uh i don't know if Big invented that. But to this day, there's people who drink a half a bottle of champagne and they will mix it with some whole other shit. But let me be honest with you.

The first time I heard of any of that ever is you telling the story of you and Big. That's the night he died. That's the night he died. That's the night he got killed. Peterson Automotive Museum. Matter of fact, it's funny. Shout out Kenny Burns. Because I just got off the phone with Kenny Burns earlier today.

Kenny called me because he said he was in the gym and he was working out. And he was mouthing the words to hypnotize mad loud. And he said some dude came up to him and said, yo, man, I just heard Ed Lover talking about you and about the night Nicky died. Yeah, in dialogue. We were all there. In the dialogue. Yeah, we were all there, man. And he was sitting there. He had that car accident with seeds. He about the night. Yeah, and dialogue. We were all there. Yeah, we were all there, man. And he was sitting there.

He had that car accident with seeds. He had the cane. And he was sitting there. And he used to always, he would never call me Ed. Or Ed Lover. Edwin. Edwin all the time. Edwin.

And I'd call him Christopher. Christopher Edwin all the time. And he gave me a bottle of Dom P. And he was like, oh, drink half the time. And he gave me a bottle of Dom P. And he was like, you don't drink half the shit. I'm like, how the fuck I'm supposed to drink half a bottle of Dom P? Nigga, I'm drunk already.

Give me some bitches or something. That's this big. Bring it back to the halfway point. And then I did it. I took it around and we was all yelling, show me the money because that movie had just came out

and we was whiling and we were giving everybody champagne. I brought it back. The nigga reached down to the ball of grandma and filled it back up and gave it back to me. Now I'm looking at this nigga

like, get the fuck out of here with this shit. That's the kind of duty I want. I still don't think that mix. No, I didn't drink it. I gave the rest of that shit out. I didn't drink that shit. That's a recipe for disaster.

Absolutely. Yeah, damn. Yeah. Holy moly. Bouncing around, right? One thing about you, I believe we did Hot Night in Jamaica one time, right? You remember that? Yeah.

And one thing I loved was you immediately became the leader on the bus. As soon as you came, I can tell this wasn't your first time there. Right. But I felt like, what's that shit when you in college? Like a fraternity. Fraternity. Right. Like, you and G. That's how I feel about hip hop. Yeah, that's that shit when you in college? Like a fraternity. Fraternity. Right. Like, you, Angie.

That's how I feel about hip hop. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Let me just tell you something. You, that day, you and Angie, like, being the OGs at that time, especially still now, but it was like y'all took control, and y'all was showing us younger artists how to move, even how to, like, yo, just how you check into the hotel, you done do that. Right. I haven't felt like that since.

Like, it feels like, it feels like it's more of a I want to battle you and be better than you than I want to teach you situation. Right. And I don't want to turn into that guy, yo, in my day, you know, we used to do this and do that. But I just want to also state facts. Like, you embrace a new artist. I feel like Angie embraced a new artist. If Flex liked your record, he would embrace you. And Red Alert.

Yeah, Red Alert. Everybody, right now, and I'm not, because everybody that name was DJs and DJs' personalities. Yeah, because no artists, you're just saying DJs. Yeah, but I'm saying, yeah, there was artists at that time. Pun embraced me. Joe embraced time. Pun embraced me. Joe embraced me. Nas embraced me.

Mobb Deep embraced me. But I don't see that going on. Do you feel that paternity love? No, because I think, I don't feel it because I think, first of all, radio has changed. Right. Radio has changed so much. And it's okay. Everybody wants to get their money.

But I kind of feel like we were still fans. We know what we did. We know the impact that we had in the community but we're still fans and so at the same time we're excited about talking to you excited that you's coming excited to embrace you on your new record i feel like some of these radio personalities think they just as big as the artists that they're talking to i never like that. I always felt the most important thing was the artist. So if we could show you by leadership just how you can stop being an artist for a while, like we're on the bus, Nori. We're in Jamaica.

You don't have to be Noriega right now. You can just be who you are. Let's go to Dunn's River Falls and fucking slip on the rocks and have a good fucking time. Let's smoke some bud. I think Patrick was there. And she cooked

the fucking hot ass jerk chicken that was killed all of us. That shit was delicious though but that's the environment that we always wanted to set for everybody that this is the time

until you get on that stage and perform while you around us we're just here to have a good time. Fuck all the other shit. We ain't gonna stick no mic in your face.

Ain't nobody secretly recording nothing. We just wanted to have a good time with you like but that sounds like true community where it got to a point now where like it's not just radio it's all of media but all of hip-hop where a lot of people jumped into the fold who didn't really care or were fans of the culture right so they didn't pay no dues to get in here either right oh this could make me money i could jump into this lane right and. And they didn't pay no dudes to get in here either. Right. Oh, this could make me money? I could jump into this lane. Right. And not truly,

they don't care to cultivate, to take care of the culture, to do right by it. Just like when you decided to not rhyme because you respected the art form. I respected shit out of LL.

Oh, yeah. Right. Yeah. How do we, how do we bring that feeling back? How do we bring that community back

where Ed could call, could call DaBaby and be like, yo, the baby. Man, I wish I knew, man, because I would love to drop some jewels on these dudes on how to keep their money and how to fucking stay out of prison and how not to react. I think that's one of the biggest things that they have to learn and that a lot of people have to learn. Just us, period, as people that we got to move off of logic and that a lot of people have to learn just us period as people that we got to move off of logic and not move off of emotion you can't let every time somebody say something to you make you react towards them in a violent manner or any other manner sometimes you just gotta let that shit be wore off a duck's back and keep going there's many times in my career where i would be in the mall even with my kids bro i'm in the mall and somebody behind me is like, yo, you know,

that's Ed Loving. You know somebody trying to bait you. Fuck that nigga, man. Nobody give a fuck about that nigga. Instead of me spinning and be like, fuck you too and get into some shit, I just go. All right, y'all, come on, let's go. Because it ain't worth it, man. They want to make a name, and especially today.

Yeah, 24-hour news site, social media. It comes to the fucking camera, then it starts costing you money. It's like, it's a trap. It's a trap. So, 24-hour news site, Here comes the fucking camera, going to start costing you money. Yeah. It's like, it's a trap. Right. It's a trap. So if they listen, there's a lot of OGs like yourself,

like you and like me, and I would love to talk to them. I would, I'd definitely be, I'm going to be honest, I definitely would like to lend my expertise, but I also don't want to waste my time too. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know how dumb I was at that age.

Right. And I know I wasn't listening to somebody, but if somebody listened to me, I would lend my time. Absolutely. I would. You ever thought hip-hop would get this dumb? Damn. No. People ask me, do I think that hip-hop

would get this far? Yes. But this dumb? No. No. I don't think it's dumb. I think it's some real credible great young artists out there that i enjoy listening to i really really do i just think that the avenue for bullshit is wide wide open bullshit makes more money yes like we get how do we close that gap gets more attention there's other people that got something to say and and then there's no balance. That's the only

problem. We had balance. We had the balance. We had the X-Clan and Public Enemy, and then we didn't understand why NWA was the poor righteous teachers. To me, NWA and Public Enemy was the perfect balance at that time. And Nas was, too. He had

intelligence, and he had street smarts. Absolutely. So if Big and them was saying, I mean, not Big, if Snoop and them was saying, had intelligence and he had street smarts absolutely so if Big and them was saying I mean not Big if Snoop and them was saying bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks Latifah say who you calling a bitch I punch him dead in the eye who you calling a bitch uplifting women we had Lauren Hill you know you had

Nikki D and all of that daddy's little girl you had Eve talking about abuse being abused you know from from the perspective of her looking at her girlfriend being abused you had that kind of stuff on record as well as us enjoying the hardcore shit now it's just dumb shit and it's not lyrical at all you really don't have to be nice which pisses the fucking shit out of me i hate it you don't have to be nice you just have to be catchy. And they be like, Unc, it's a vibe. It's a vibe. It's a vibe.

I'm like, okay, this shit ain't for me. Alright, I'm fine with it. But go make your money. I'm happy about that. Me too. Me too. Make as much money as you can off this shit. I'm very happy about that. Yeah, I don't ever like to blame the artists that are doing it because going to make your money. No, sometimes it's the artist's fault. No, I blame the audience's fault for saying,

I want to be this dumb. But they don't know. No, no, no. It's still the artist's fault, though, I blame the audience's fault for saying, I want to be this dumb. But they don't know. No, no, no, it's still the artist's fault, though. I can't believe someone's fault. They will try their ass off, and then when that shit, they try and don't work, they go right to the lowest hanging fruit. Let's think about it.

Put my nigga in your face. Put my nigga in your face. And I should be like, oh, shit. You couldn't get away with no crazy lack of lyrics in the late 80s, early 90s. No, that's not true. There's always been whack MCs. No, no, no.

There's been plenty of them. There's always been whack MCs. Exactly. There's been whack MCs, but you could barely, rarely get away with it. I agree with that. I agree with that. But there's always been people who got over that hump. Rico.

Yeah, yeah. There's always been. Suave. Remember that shit? But that career lasted so long. You had the rapper. You had the rapper, too. I like that shit. I like that Rico. He became an long. You had the rapping dukes.

I like that shit. I like that shit. He became an executive, and he- He became an executive, too. And he was actually fucking real hip-hop. I just see somebody do an interview with the rapping duke the other day. Oh, yeah. Rapping duke, the hog, the hog. Rapping duke, the hog, the hog.

Remember him? Oh, yeah. Yeah, Vanilla Ice was trash, too. I love rapping. I met him. I met him. We went to Russia together. I love the dude. But he was not a great rapper.

We gotta take a drink to that. His name after Pappy Van Winkle. Yeah, Robert, fucking Robert. Give him a new drink, give him a new drink. Mm. When he came out, he could dance though. That was, he bought the entertainment value in too. But as a rapper, come on, all of us was mad at that.

So, Stretch. Yes, let's talk about the guy. Super legend. I wanted to say Queens, but that'll be so limited to New York City. I want to say worldwide because if you bring up the beginning of pop right after Digital Underground,

it goes straight to Stretch. Stretch is from the Live Squad. Stretch actually brung Tupac to the left rack city. You know, obviously, Stretch had a relationship with E-Money Bags, who's from my building, grew up there before he moved to Springfield. That's my man. Rest in peace, E-Money Bags. Rest in peace, E-Money Bags.

Yes. So let's talk about that era, because you grew up with Stretch? No, Stretch came to me when they was trying to get a record there. Tommy Boy. Yes, I got them signed to Tommy Boy. You got them signed to Tommy Boy. Through Latifah. I played their demo for Latifah.

Latifah set up the meeting with Monica and Monica signed them and then they did that short form video. That was like three songs in a short form video. Oh, when they was killing people. Yeah. That shit was crazy. It was like $900,000 on that video. Get out of here.

Yeah. Three songs and one long video that connected all the songs. And that's because, that's the rumor is that Pac reached out because Pac liked that gangster shit. Like, he saw that. They met on a set of Juice. Oh. Stretch.

They met on a set of Juice. Yeah. I was in Juice, if you're blinking, miss me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Standing behind Latifah. I've been looking for you for 10 years. When Sheila announces the winner, I'm right behind her. I don't say shit.

I'm just standing there. But I'm there all day just to shoot that shit. And we knew Pac because we knew Shock. Shock, he's on the grass. We knew Shock. So we knew Pac when Pac was roadie. And then Pac was playing Bishop. And then them niggas smoked like chimneys.

So they smoking and talking. And the next thing you know boom they friends man they friends and they was deep friends too real good stretch and pop yeah real good friends yeah um go ahead ask the hard questions yeah because i want to because i don't want to blame their relationship on big that they fell out. Because didn't they fall out a little bit before that? They were together when the shooting happened. They were together. That's got to be the way.

They was together. So in lack of a better term. They went into the building together? They walked in the building together. Wow. Yeah. I think Freddie was there, too. Not Fab Five, but my man Freddie from Queens. I think he was with them, too. Yeah. I think it was more than, I think Freddie was there too. And. I think.

Not Fab Five, but my man Freddie from Queens. I think he was with him too. Right. And everybody knows, that's from New York. I want to say everybody from Queens, but everybody knows in New York,

who was that crew that was affiliated with that? Young Guns. Yeah. YG's, Homo. Yeah. E-Money Bags. Gam.

Shout out Gam. Shout out Homo. E-Money. All of them. Yep. So. Madge. Stretch Brother Madge. What would it be? Gam, shout out Gam, shout out Homo, E-Money, all of them. Yep. Madge, Stretch Brother Madge. What would it be if Pac didn't go to Unique Studios that night?

Unique or Quad? Quad, sorry. Quad. Quad. Whole different ballgame, bro. You want me to tell you what I think Pac would have been today? Yes. The most impressive actor out of all rap actors.

Wow. Probably would have already been nominated for an Academy Award. Wow. And would have definitely been on the front lines of Black Lives Matter. Absolutely would have been on it. He was a panther at heart, bro. He really cared about his people. He cared. He loved his black people.

He would have been at the forefront of that shit. Definitely would have been at the forefront of it. And I believe he'd have probably already won an Academy Award. He was gifted black people. He would have been at the forefront of that shit. Definitely would have been at the forefront of it. And I believe he'd have probably already won an Academy Award. He was gifted, bro. He was that good as an actor. He was just natural. Right. There wasn't no work for him.

He was natural. Now, I'm bouncing around a little bit. I'm going to come back to that. Now, one of the other, I mean, you have so many classic moments. One of the classic moments is the first time I got to see Wu-Tang all together. Right. It was so early. Ghostface had like a dog.

He didn't even have... He wasn't even showing his face then, right? He wasn't showing his face. Ghostface showed his face then. And I watched that interview. It's so funny to me because I know when you're coming off in the street, the street taught you at that time

not to look at the camera. Like to be like, you know what I mean? Right. And all of them is doing the same exact thing. But you and Ed is holding it down, conducting. Bro, you talking about when I had the karate gi on and I was Papa Woo? No, no, that was the second time. That was the first time you had them on.

That time, them niggas was ready to kill me. Yeah. My nigga. Them niggas did not think that was funny at all. Like, I'm behind them kicking in the air and punching y'all. Y'all talking about your own TV rap shit. Yeah, them niggas was not happy, son. Oh, no, but that was after they blew up.

That was after they blew up. Nigga, the only thing that saved me that day is Meph started laughing. When Meph laughed, everybody eased up. Ray Kwan told me this years ago. He said, nigga, we just really wanted to fuck you up right there. Right there. But that's probably the second time. The first time I met these niggas was fucking hilarious.

I'm on Joe's Beach. It's the Greek Fest on Joe's Beach. Remember this shit? We used to go to Greek Fest, Joe's Beach. I'm jean shorts, Tim's, straight New York Yankee hat, wife beater. 19 niggas surround me. Yo, I love her.

I'm like, yo, what's good? We're the Wu-Tang Clan. I was like, we're standing down in Brooklyn. We in here. Yo,

we want to give you our tapes. I see the RZA. And I said, I know you. Prince Rakim. You, bro. Prince Rakim.

We love you, Rakim. Them niggas lost it. No. It's the fucking RZA. Now, they wasn't associating with that Prince Rocky and shit. That shit was trash

to them. And then I recognized the GZA because he was on Gaffer. And I said the GZA, but they didn't really want to associate. They were like, nah, we're the Wu-Tang Clan. We'll get you our tape, my nigga. You know what I'm saying? Blah, blah, blah. So they gave me the tape, and it was Protect Your Neck

on one side, and the other side was Method Man. Yeah, M-E-T-H-O. Yeah, M-E-T-H-O. Which ended up being the single that way. I remember getting in my car, playing this tape, and it was the most incredible shit I had ever heard in my life. I was like, how do they seamlessly make these many people sound this good? Yes, yes. Sound like a unit.

It was nothing like it. Right. And damn, right after that, they were the very first guests we had on when we signed on to do Hot 97 Morning Show. Wu-Tang Clan was our first guest. Wow. First guest. Yeah. And it's great.

The way that you mentioned it, probably the music matched that exactly. Yeah. That energy. Right. But that's the RZA. That's the genius of sequencing from the RZA, understanding who sounds best right behind other people. I've asked him a question before. He told me he has a version of Cream that's him in Ghostface.

It's them two. But he probably was like, nope. But when he put Ray and Deck on it, he heard it. He said, that sounds better than us. I'm taking us off. So as a producer, how do you have so much love for your clan that you're willing to not shine so that they can shine? He said their verses sounded better than what me and Ghost did. So we took me and Ghost off the shit.

Wow. RZA's a genius, man. Shout out RZA. And I believe RZA and Ghost is like the only ones that's really family. Like, even though- Family by marriage.

By marriage. By children. By children, yes. Ghost had a lot of kids with him. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. With RZA's sister. Yeah, goddammit. They still love each other.

Sounded crazy. That shit sounded crazy to me too when I heard it. Did you ever see, you ever got to see Wu and Nas show together? Yes.

Yo, that shit was crazy. I buy merch. I'm just a fucking fan, man. I don't ask for shit. I just want to go backstage and say hi to niggas and just be in the presence

of them and they so fucking funny because what they sound like on the record, if you just around them, that's how they talk to each other. Yo, God, yo, peace, God. Like all the skits and shit, if you just around them, that's how they talk to each other. Yo, God.

Yo, peace, God. Like all the skits and shit, it's the same shit, bro. It's the same shit. And even when they did the TV series, the young dudes that played them, when they were around each other, they sounded like the Wu-Tang. They talked to each other like they were in character. Yes. I told you Wizards had me scared to death out there. He had Japanese whiskey and vodka.

And I was like, I ain't fucking with you because that do not go together at all. He had Yamazaki, I believe. And he had Grey Goose. And I was like, I love Yamazaki. I love Habiki. But I'm not mixing it with no Grey Goose. No, hell no Yamazaki. I love Habiki. But I'm not mixing it with no Grey Goose. No, hell no. Hell no.

Hell no. Now I'm going to ask you a question that you asked yourself earlier. You ever thought that hip hop would make it this far? Yeah, I did. Yeah? I did. I never thought that I would be this involved in hip hop. Or even have people call me OG or call me an icon.

I never thought that would happen for me. And I'm so grateful that it did. But I just knew that hip hop was something special. And never thought that would happen for me. And I'm so grateful that it did. But I just knew that hip hop was something special. And I knew that all them cats, like I remember we interviewed Bruce Willis. And he's like, hip hop ain't going to do this. It ain't going to do that. Yeah, he didn't like hip hop.

My father didn't understand this. My father was like, what's all that beep bop boobity bing dee? Anybody can do that. I'm like, Dad, it's music. It's poetry. It's the last poets. It's Gil Scott that you've played in the house for me a million times. It's Pigmeat Markham.

Y'all played Pigmeat Markham for me when I was a kid. He was rapping. Here comes the judge. Hear ye, hear ye the quarter swing. I'm just about ready to do my thing. That's rap. And we took it and we did something else with it. We took something from nothing at all and made something special out of it. So I knew once it went that it was the youth movement,

it was the youth music. It's never going to go anywhere. It's never going anywhere. Hip-hop will never die. Never. So let me ask you, we touched on it earlier, and then EFN changed the subject for a second. Now you guys blow up.

You guys get the chance to to do this movie i think it was new line you guys yeah new line who's the man a three three picture deal yeah three picture deal but what made you say i'm gonna stick with ted demi as opposed to going with brad because because ted put me on that's his man all right he put me on he had did a movie a short film when he was in film school and he put me on on. So we went in and fought with New Line. We're not doing this movie unless Ted directs it. Wow. Because Ted put me on, bro.

Ted is the reason why I went from a high school safety officer in Andrew Jackson High School to being worldwide known the next fucking year. Wow. That's because of Ted. Ted pushed the green light. Ted's the one that said, I want this unknown guy named Ed Lover, and I want this guy named Dr. Dre, and this is what I want. And he fought for me. Even in the early days when we was a half an hour and they was trying to make all these adjustments to the show, Ted fought for us. Ted and Peter, God rest both their souls, they fought for us. So it was a

no-brainer for me to say, it's Ted or it's nothing. And what was Ted's exact role at MTV? Ted was executive producer of Y'all on TV Raps. Oh, wow. And he was a producer first, and then he was executive producer of Y'all on TV Raps. And then, you know, he just became a big film and television director throughout his career. Died way too early, too. And wasn't the show one of the highest rated shows on MTV? The highest rated show in the fucking history of MTV.

And don't let them tell you no different. Don't let them tell you no different. Don't let them tell you no different, man. And what fucking pissed me off, when they did the 50th anniversary of hip hop and MTV did that thing, they didn't even invite us. They didn't mention it. They didn't say shit. I don't know what the fuck is wrong with them. We've been trying to do our own documentary. They won't fucking loan out the footage and shit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They be on some bullshit, bro. Let me ask you, what would Who's the Man movie look like? Today? In a new generation.

At one point, I said if I did a Who's 2, I would want my man from Saturday Night Live. Oh, to do all the impressions? Kenan. Oh, yeah, yeah. Kenan to impressions? Kenan. Oh, yeah. Kenan to play Dre's son. Oh, okay. I'm like, that's just dumb.

Right after Drumline, I was thinking Nick Cannon to play my son. Right. And somebody would kidnap Dre, and I'm like a captain or a lieutenant now, and then they rookies

following our footsteps to find out where Dre is. I can see that then, but now... With all the young cats in it. But now you got great cats like DC Young Fly and all them cats that I'm so fucking proud of. No, I think Nick Cannon can still play you,

even though he like your age right now. He got enough kids, though, right? He got enough kids to be your age right now. Kids are aging the shit out of you, Nick. That's right. Keenan, so I heard that Dre Didn't get his name Because everyone thought either Dr. Dre Bit of a Dr. Dre

Dr. Dre bit of a Dr. Dre Well thank you to Dr. Dre from the West Coast Because we got a trip to Russia Because of Dr. Dre from the West Coast Because they called our manager at the time Charlie Stetler who played Beaker in Crush Groove And was the Fat Boys manager That was our manager for a long time

They called him thinking he managed Dr. And was the Fat Boys manager. That was our manager for a long time. They called him thinking he managed Dr. Dre from the West Coast and they wanted him for this shit called the Festival of the White Knights in Russia. That sounds a lot.

It only gets, it sounded wild to me. I was like, that sounds some clandestine, right? The White Knights? Yeah. What happens is it only gets dark for an hour

and then it fucking sunshine again. Wow. In Russia. So he was like, no, but I got Dr got dr dre and ed lover from your own tv raps and okay bring them and then we bought salt and pepper and fucking uh your man um vanilla ice with us and we just fucking had a great time and that's because of dr ray but dre got his name from dr dr jay Right. Dr. Dre. Because Dre was a little chubby ball boy for the Nets when they were in Long Island. Is he also an Andre?

He's Andre. So just like- Andre Bryant. Yeah, both of them Andre. Yeah, they're both Andres. But you know, man, Dr. Dre's Mac Dre. Right, right. Yeah.

All kind of Dres. Well, not that many Dr. Dres. Not that many Dr. Dres. And back then- Especially back then. No. You would be confused without social media and And you had to get a magazine. When I was on the radio, I almost sent a cease and desist letter to a radio personality out of Atlanta called Chris Love-A-Lover. I was like, this nigga's not using love on the radio.

It's only going to be one. Because I went about it the right way. I asked Scoob and Scrappy, could I use love? I asked. Oh, Scoob and Scrappy. Oh, wow. Yeah, you don't just bite a nigga's shit. No, I asked. They were like, nah, go ahead. I was like, cool. Yeah, you don't just bite a nigga's shit, no,

ask. They was like, nah, go ahead. I was like, cool. And this nigga pop up, Chris,

love, I was like, oh, hell fucking no. And then it turned out to be ludicrous, so I'm so glad I didn't do that shit.

These niggas have been mad at me for the rest of my life. How nuanced were everybody's little something still? Like, how many decades of littles have we had artists? Oh my God,

littles? You know who killed me with who I thought should have been little? I love the motherfucker, but Big Sean. The first time I met him, I was like, how are you Big Sean? He's a small nigga. He's not big.

Like Little Sean for real. Yeah, maybe he didn't want to be Little Sean. Because he knew there was a Little Sean for real. Yeah, there's mad Littles. Lil Baby is not like Littles. You would think they would phase that out by now, but Littles is still going. They still going with Littles. Mad Littles is still going. They still going with Little. Mad Littles.

Young's is going for a while. Yeah, Young's is crazy. Young's is going for a while. Yeah, Jay had Young Hoes. Jay still throw Young Hoes out there. I like it. I was like, fuck it. Fuck with Jay.

They took over the D. They went to MCD. Yeah, they took over the Ds, the Littles and the Youngs. But who's the man going back? Was obviously the focus always to do a movie that was going to expose all these artists, put all these artists? No, that was something that Dre and I said. We wanted to...

Remember, I don't know if y'all remember Gumball Rally back in the day. All them shits used to have all these cameos by all these different actors. Like Cannonball. Right, Cannonball. Yeah, Cannonball run and all of that shit. Even on the airplane joints, there'd be mad cameos. So we was like, we have this opportunity. Let's give all these rap artists that we can muster up

you know who was supposed to be in it it didn't didn't show up Rakim no Mary J. Blige Rakim was in it

wasn't he Mary was supposed to sing at the funeral oh wow I don't know what happened but we was there all day we just couldn't find Mary so we like

Bo Leguilu you singing full force you already in the movie yeah Mary was supposed to be in that shit no to this day if you a hip hop fan And we like, Bo Leguilu, you singing full force? Like, you already in the movie. Yeah, Mary was supposed to be in that shit. No, to this day, if you're a hip hop fan and you watch it with the man, you still notice people that you're like, oh, I didn't know that was him. Like, you know what I mean? But back then it was iller because you don't see these people on camera all the time.

Okay. Videos were still kind of relatively new to a lot of people. Cable wasn't prevalent everywhere. You're absolutely right. To me, it's iller now because, like you said, I knew these people's voices. Now, with the internet, I know how certain people look. I really didn't know how NWA looked for a long time. You know what I'm saying?

I wasn't privileged to see their videos. When I watch Who's the Man, I'm like, damn, I still to this day like, damn, oh, that's who that was right there. Yeah, we had Chris Cross and that shit, right? We had Bushwick Bill, Ice-T, Moni Love. How the fuck did you get all these people? Ask them. Just ask. Ted just reached out and asked them. Nobody said no. Everybody said yes. It was just that simple. Everybody was like, yeah, why not? Wow.

And Guru. And Guru, too. why not? Wow. And Guru. And Guru too. Yeah, rest in peace Guru. A lot of people, man. Was there anyone who said no? Rest in peace. No. Cypress is in it too, right?

Cypress is in it. Yeah, B-Real. Yeah. Oh, B-Real's my man though. Yeah, man. Yeah, B-Real is ill, man. I went to LA one time. B-Real invited me to one of them Cholo barbecues.

Cholo barbecues. Yeah, but it's- Everyone had their socks up high. Yeah, yeah, one of them joints. Like, in the hood hood, like, straight, like, Mexican mafia type shit, where niggas sitting on the porch with a shotgun. When I pulled up, and the niggas look, and then some nigga walked to the gate.

You know, like, one of them baby Joker-looking niggas that scare you and shit? Whole head got a spider web on it. You just saw American Me before you- Yeah, that kind of shit. And he walked up and he go, oh, you the homie I love, right? I'm like, yeah,

and I had a fucking great time with them niggas, man. We had a ball. And then when I was getting ready to go back downtown, the niggas surrounded me in their cars and rode me all the way back downtown. And then B-Real calls me and goes, yo, there's one of the homegirls in there that's kind of like you, B.

I'm like, no, I'm not, no. No, no, B-Real. That might be, yo, there's one of the homegirls in there that kind of like you, B. I'm like, no, I'm not, no. No, no, B-Real. That might be one of them niggas. Baby Little Little Joker's sister or something. I'm not fucking with them niggas. No, sir. Do you ever realize, like, the love you got, like, you know, by you playing this new chew in a time where life wasn't new chew, but you was being new chew in that time. And it't neutral, but you was being neutral in that time.

And it's somewhat, not somewhat, it gives you, like I've never, and you can tell me if this is, if I'm bugging out or I'm exaggerating, like I've never really seen somebody mad at that level. And I don't think you will either. Wow. Because I'm on my fucking business, bro. Right.

And even if I have a conflict with somebody about something, I'm always the one that say, okay, let's talk about it. And we can talk about it. We can get past it. I think that's one of the traits I got from my dad. You know what I mean? If it ain't your business, it doesn't directly affect me or my family or my kids. It really ain't got nothing to do with me. So I didn't get involved in that shit.

I was a little upset that Pac didn't come to Stretch's funeral. I was upset. And me and him and I talked about it. And Stretch's funeral was in New York. It was in New York. Okay. Yeah. And I was wondering if shit was.

Yeah, they were. But Pac was his daughter's godfather and so am I. Right. So I kind of felt a certain way about it. Right. You know? And you said you spoke about Pac about that. We spoke. Yeah. certain way about it. Right. And you said you spoke about Pac about that. We spoke.

Yeah, we talked about it. That's when Sugar told me that he liked me because I stepped to Pac as a man. He said, you know we could have beat the shit out of you. I said, yeah. Right, right. I knew it. But he was like, you came as a man. I was like, leave him alone.

He got something to say. Leave the nigga alone. What's the biggest difference between Tupac and Digital Underground and Tupac Death Row? Tupac Death Row was coming into his own as an artist. Tupac, Digital Underground had to stand behind

Digital Underground. You know, he only really had that verse, when the clown around, when the clown around. He was coming into his own as a solo artist right there,

able to express himself to the heights that he wanted to express himself. But he did have the two albums before. Was it two or three? Before Death Row days.

It was like two. I think it was two. I think a big part of the difference, I mean, you knew him more. The media, the media shit. But it seemed also the jail time too,

you saw a different side of him. After the shooting, that changed you as a man. I always forget that. The shooting and then jail. I always forget that part. I forget the shooting and the jail part. All I say that. The shooting and then jail. I always forget that part. I forget the shooting and the jail part.

All I say is Digital Underground and then like that part and I always forget that part. The shooting and the jail time. I was a fan of Park coming out of Digital Underground and his first albums

were amazing to me. Was that Strictly For My Niggas? Yeah, yeah. Tupacalypse Now. Yup, Tupacalypse Now and then he had the shooting with the cops and all that but he was a certain version

of himself and then after the Quad studio stuff then jail and then Death Row He had the shooting with the cops and all that, but he was a certain version of himself. And then after the quad studio stuff, then jail, and then death row, that seemed like a different person a little bit. To me, from outside looking in, it seemed like a different person. He was growing as an artist, man. Right. And people got to realize he was young. Super young. I say this all the time.

Super young. And man, every time I talk about Tupac, my nigga, I get so much Tupac hate. Him and Big, both kids, man. All the time. You hate it. You hate on Tupac. I love that nigga with all my heart and soul. We broke bread in my mama's house with this dude.

He used to sit on the stairs. I don't understand how people can say that I ever hated Tupac. I didn't. I'm just not going to believe what people try to tell me about Stretch. I'm just not going to believe it. Like we say, you're not going to believe Chris Lighty. I'm not ever going to believe what people try to tell me about Stretch. Right. I'm just not going to believe it. Like we say, you're not going to believe Chris Lighty. Right, right. I'm not ever going to believe Stretch set Pac up in the quad.

I'm not buying that shit. So you're saying that was because I never heard that rumor. And if I did hear that rumor. The nigga Dexter, I think his name is Dexter Lawrence. Okay. He was one of the dudes that ran in on Tupac. Okay. Trying to make a name for himself for some reason he wanted to say Stretch had something to do with it.

Nah. And I'm like, come on, I'm not believing it. I'm sorry, I'm not going to believe it. I'm just not. That's my dude. Right. I'm not going to believe that shit. But it's always niggas that wasn't there.

That's the shit that killed me. It's always some 20, 19-year-old nigga hitting me on my DM. And I'm asking, how old were you? I'm 19. And Pop said, that's a nigga you wasn't there. Right. Shut the fuck up. Right.

You wasn't there, nigga. All I can talk about is what I seen. That's all I can talk about. I can't talk about what I didn't see. I can't talk about an era. I can't tell you, fuck David Ruffin. I wasn't around then, nigga. Come on.

These niggas want to tell me shit. That shit killed me. It killed me, bro. It killed me. I lived that killed me, bro. It kills me. I lived a gifted life, man. I love that dude with all of my heart and soul. And the last thing we said to each other when he was coming out of that hotel, and I had the Betty Boop bar with fucking Gorgeous Dre, Bishop Don Juan,

and all of them niggas pretty toned in them. They tried to get me a hoe. Uh-huh, that's right. They tried to get me a hoe. I don't have the capacity to be a pimp. And we talked. He didn't look her in the eye? We talked, and he said, are you coming to Suge's Club?

And I was doing something for Chris Latimer that night. And I was like, yeah, I might stop by. But in the back of my mind, I'm like, it's the East Coast, West Coast beef. Y'all get drunk, you're going to beat the shit out of me. I'm not going over there. Vegas? Yeah, it was in Vegas that night. And I said, I love you, bro.

He said, I love you, too. Walked out. What? I ain't never been on no diss track that Pac was talking about. No. How the fuck y'all figure out I ain't on that level? He mentioned everybody. Man, shit kills me.

And it hurts me, too. I wish niggas would stop doing that. Right. Yeah. Yeah, let's do it. You want to explain it again? Thanks. By the way, a part of me wants you to have.

The diss of that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want y'all. What the fuck is he talking about? He don't know what this is about. I'm a fan. I know who's coming. Part of me wants you to drink some of this,

but then the other part does not. I just want to be selfish and just drink this. No, no, I'm good. I stick to my shit. This is so good, man. Oh, my God. This is really some queen shit. And part of me doesn't want you to drink it.

I've seen what that mama want. Okay, all right. Go ahead. You ready? All right. Well, you, I'm drinking. I've seen what that Mama Wanda did. Okay, all right, get ahead, you ready? All right, so, well, you know the rules then. I know the rules. If I don't take one of the, if I go neutral,

I still got to do a shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, all right, all right. And then, you know, this is not meant to diss nobody. I know, it's just my personal opinion. I hope nobody gets upset

because I'm going to answer honestly. But we want stories too, any stories. Yeah, any stories you got. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tupac or DMX? Pop. Okay, I knew I'm going to answer honestly. But who have stories, too? Any stories? Yeah, any stories you got? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tupac or DMX? Pop. Okay, I knew you was going to say that.

All right, this one, I think we should get a shot. But X is one of the illest niggas ever. You got any crazy story with X? X? I had X when I was on Melon. I went to Power 105. Yes. And they bought a Starbucks while.

And at the end of the morning, I went to the afternoon. Oh, yes. But they still had me on the contract to do the mornings in case the niggas do something crazy and they did against Envy and that's how I ended up back on the mornings but remember when I was in the afternoons I had Oprah I'm the only nigga that ever had Oprah

Jamie Foxx hooked that up so I had Oprah so X comes in the afternoon so I'm asking X, X how'd you get here? I drove, I said you just got arrested so fuck a job, fuck that I got a car So I'm asking X, X, how'd you get here? I drove. I said, you just got arrested. Fuck that. I got a car. I'm driving my shit.

That's how I went. And he had to share with him. Not to share with his first wife. That's right. So the nigga's standing there, and he's telling me this shit. He goes, yo, yo, hey, you know, music is playing. We just talking. You know, first time I ever met my wife, I told her I loved her.

Right, baby? First night I ever met her. She's like, yeah, he did. He told me he loved her. Right, baby? First night I ever met her. She's like, yeah, he did. He told me he loved her. So I said that to get the pussy. But then I realized that I really did love her. But I still got the pussy. That's true.

And the nigga told me. That was wild. And that nigga told me, he said, yo, I did what they really want for the bitches. I did that song. And I took the how it's going I did what they really want for the bitches I did that song and I took the shit to Def Jam and they was like yeah it's good

but you need somebody to sing on this shit this shit'll sound good and I was like well who y'all gonna put on there what we gonna do the nigga said let's get the nigga Cisco

he's on the label I didn't really I don't know you know the nigga you know you know the nigga the blonde hair I didn't know

if the nigga was like you know you know. Thongs up. You know, the nigga with the blonde hair. I didn't know if the nigga was like, you know. You know how X is. X is a character. Yeah, he is. Yeah, I love X. He's genuine, though. He's genuine as a motherfucker. I'll tell you how crazy X is.

My dog is this big. X came over to my crib and made my dog a pit bull. I promise you. My dog. I got a teacup Yorkie. This nigga, DMX. It's on film. I promise you. It's on film. I got a teacup Yorkie. This nigga, DMX. It's on film. I promise you.

It's on film. I got it. He's this big. And DMX came to my dog and was like, and I've never seen this in my life. My dog was like, I didn't even know he had those type of teeth. That's how ill the ex is. Okay. Nas or Jay-Z?

Queens. Nas. Okay. All right. All right. Cool. I'm missing it. Queens, Nas Okay, alright, alright, cool I'm missing it Queens, no disrespect, Jay Jay, to me, is probably one of the greatest living rappers right now

Because I'll say this about Jay And Nas Nas is an artist-artist Like, when Nas did the Esco shit And niggas started clowning him about the shit He finally realized that I'm going to do a lot of art A lot of times, Nas don't give a fuck

if he make a record, an album with a radio single on it. He's going to make the music he wants to make. He's from Queens, so I'm going with him. But Jay is incredible.

If Jay made a record right now, everybody would be like, what? He jumped on what? What? And you know what I like about both of them?

All of their latest materials sound like them now. Yeah. It don't sound like them then. And I mean that in a compliment because... Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I love that. Absolutely.

When he did the 445, Mama? Yeah, 444. Yeah, 444. I just gave him an extra minute on the check. He gave him an extra minute. What Jay did there, what Home did there, I always told Jay, I always loved a more introspective Jay

than any other Jay because he's a lyricist. And I loved him. When he did the pop, love me, raise me, that shit. The introspective Jay. Jay-Z, that's the Jay-Z I love the most. Right. Yeah, they're updated versions of themselves. Wu-Tang or N.W.A.?

Wu-Tang. Wu-Tang. And I love N.W.A., but EP, two albums? Yeah. Yeah. Wu-Tang. Wu-Tang. And I love N.W.A., but EP, two albums? Yeah. Yeah. Wu-Tang. And the reason why I say Wu-Tang is because of what spawned off of Wu-Tang. Yes.

And the success that everybody that spawned off of Wu-Tang had. If you do that, then— You could do that with N.W.A. as well. N.W.A. has a legitimate— What spawned off of N.W.A. Has a legitimate— Well, Eazy was first, And then Dre, of course. Yes.

Cube, of course. It's a great argument. It's a great argument. Those are the two who do it. The Colombian and the Dominican over there. Those are the two who put these questions together. You could potentially track the lineage to Kendrick from NWA. Absolutely.

You know? Absolutely. LL or Big Daddy King? Shit. Take a shot? You're saying both? Nah, I can't. I got to say L, man.

I'm going L. All right, all right. I love Kane, but I got longevity counts, right? Yes, yes, yes. That new album is still fire. Right. Yeah, I'm going to go L. L is the new album.

Yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah, it's fire. Ready? Yeah. Lauryn Hill or Missy Elliott? Lauryn. Okay. Nothing against Missy Elliott? Lauryn. Okay.

Nothing against Missy. I love Missy. I love Missy. I mean, I love Missy, too. Right. I would have took Missy down, son. I love her. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I would have took Missy down. I would have took her down, son. She know I love her. She know I love her. My wife know I love Missy Elliott. Come on, son. I would have took Missy down. Definitely love me some Missy. Missy beautiful, God.

Good, yes. Beautiful. I like the big Missy, too, son. I like that little chubby Missy. Yeah, I like the hee-hee-hee-hee-ha, Missy. That's the one for me, son. The garbage bag? Yeah, the garbage bag, Missy, son.

That's the one for me, son. What? Yeah, hell yeah. What's up? Yo, Missy's got a big head. I love Missy. Missy, I love you, baby. She's beautiful. Missy, son. That's the one for me, son. Yeah, hell yeah. I love Missy. Missy, I love you, baby. Missy is at love. I love you, baby. Red man or methadone man? Drink. Bro, let's go. Bump and drink on that,

bro. I was ready to drink. To me, methadone man is one of the most underrated rappers ever to me. Red man, you said? No, red is one of the illest. He's one of the illest, bro. Right. And both of them together, they're kindred spirits, man.

Oh, absolutely. My nigga, one time, oh, God, you said stories? Stories, let's go. I'm in L.A. They playing the House of Blues. Remember the House of Blues there on Sunset, Norrie?

Yep. Remember that shit? Remember that? Yeah, bro. Yeah, Finn, shit was right there. So the niggas called me. Yo, come hang out with us. We doing the House of Blues. They right across the streetiggas called me. Yo, come hang out with us. We doing the House of Blues.

They right across the street at the fucking hotel. I'm in the hotel with them. Why did I decide I'm going to smoke weed with these niggas? I don't know why I did that. Don't tell me it was dust. No, it wasn't dust. I ain't never been dusting. Now, I smoke weed with them niggas, and we go across the street.

They send the sprinter to get the niggas. The niggas are like, fuck that sprinter. House of Blues is right there. We walking across the street. They send the sprinter to get the niggas. The niggas are like, fuck that sprinter. House of Blues is right there. We're walking across the street. We're just fucking walking out in traffic on Sunset. We don't give a fuck. High as fuck. We get backstage.

They get ready to go on. I said, I'm going to go in the audience and watch the show. I went home. I was so fucked up. I went home. Fucking leg was numb. I didn't know where I was at. I went to fuck home.

Fuck Red Man and Method Man. And me and my niggas always got this shit with us that we just snap on each other whenever we see each other. It's not like a hello. It's not like a yo, what's good? How are the kids? It's always look at this big nose. Pick your nose with boxing gloves ass. To this day, that's how we are. So I can't choose between them two. I respect that. So look at this big nose fucking, stick your nose with boxing gloves ass nigga.

To this day, that's how we are. So I can't choose between them two. I respect that. Gangstar or Eric B and Rakim? Eric B and Rakim. Okay. And only because Rakim is probably one of the most important MCs we have ever seen on the face of this earth.

He's the God MC. He put words together. His lineage, if you go look at rock him's lineage naz is on that tree jay is on that tree yeah big is on that tree gurus on that g rap on that tree g rap is on that tree that the everything was aggressive before rock pun is on that tree pun is definitely and remember we've had a lot of people from you on the tree yeah a lot of people from different parts of the country from the west coast from the south that you, that you wouldn't have thought, and they would say Rakim. They were part of that lineage as well.

I love when we have people from the West Coast, and then they give us their top five, and top three of them. Usually they say- It's the real MCs from back then. Of course. Yeah, Rakim is dumb important. You know, Rakim said shit. Yeah, and then he said shit that made me say, what?

My name is Rakim Allah and R-A stands for Ra, spinning around. It still comes out R, and it does. I'm like, what the fuck? The seven MCs in the line is one of the fucking, you know, one of the greatest. Seven MCs in the line. Yeah, take seven more before I go from mine. Yeah, that's 21 MCs. Seven times three is 21.

I'm like, get the fuck out of here. Yeah. And he was gangster without cursing. Without cursing. Absolutely. And without saying gangster shit at all. Just think about it. Like, back then, people used to be like, yo, don't let your kids listen to rap because

of the curses. It was never because of the content. People couldn't really understand metaphors. So Rakim was probably the only people that kids was listening to and parents wasn't catching on that this was gangster. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. He's still one of my favorite dudes, man. I remember I had this Gucci link chain on, big, stupid Gucci link and shit. Hollow was a motherfucker.

I bought it off the app. Shit was huge. I'm supporting this shit. So I'm around Eric B., Rakim, their whole crew, Supreme, Magnetic, all of them. Spanish Supreme. Spanish Supreme. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So them niggas is the Puerto Rican Supreme Magnetic, right?

And 50 Cent with them, the real 50 Cent. So the nigga tell me, Ed, you know, I was going to get you for that chain. I was like, what? Who said that? 50 Cent. Okay, wow, wow. Yeah, you know how I get down. I was about to get you for that chain.

But Eric and Rod said, you know, that's my man at level. Leave him alone. Wow. I said, so, Fifth, what the fuck do you think was going to be the outcome of you robbing me? Like, you think you was just going to rob me and I was going to be okay with it? Like, what the fuck are you talking about? But the nigga told me he was going to rob me. Thank you, Eric B. and Rod Kim, because I probably got robbed.

All right. The locks or Run DMC? Oh, come on, bro. Take a shot? Yeah, come on. Cheers. Longevity plays a part of it. Right.

The Locks have more longevity than Run indeed, but they're the most important motherfuckers that ever happened to me because if it wasn't for them agreeing to do that pilot, I would have never been your own tv raps talk about run dmc run dmc man hell yeah oh my god super important to me super important to queens period right you know so geez the first ones on mtv the first ones on rolling stone they did like, come on. They was doing stadiums. I remember I did a commercial with Ron. It was when Beats first started

their streaming service before they sold it to Apple. And what a lot of people don't know, that's what Apple actually bought. They bought the streaming service and took their headphones and gave Dre like a billion dollars and Jimmy Iovine and all of them, right?

But it was the streaming service because they had the infrastructure already and Apple wanted the streaming service. So they bought that. So me and Run did a commercial together that actually aired during the Super Bowl. And I asked Run, I said, who was your stiffest competition when you was rhyming? He said, we did Peter Piper. And I said, we got one. And he said, I got it from Fairytale Lover from UTFO,

the song Fairytale Lover. And I said, D, we need to make a song like that. So we started writing Peter Piper, Pig Peppers, and Run Rock Rhyme. And he said, I thought we had him. And he said, that nigga LL came out with I Need Love. He was like, this motherfucker right here. And then I asked him another question.

I said, KRS-One, this y'all, subliminally. Why? Teachers wear crowns. The teachers stay intelligent. Talking silly rhymes on the mic is still irrelevant, especially when you're not college material. That was a diss to Run DMC. Kings wear crowns.

I'm the king of rock. But teachers stay intelligent. Right. So I asked Run, why didn't y'all say something about it? Run said, I was doing stadiums and he was doing clubs. If I had acknowledged him, I'd have been pulling him up to my level. I said, okay, that makes

sense. And then he said, and the nigga was nice. He said, me and D ain't wanna fuck with that nigga. That nigga was nice. Podcast or radio? Podcast. Podcast. And I'm on the radio and I'm saying that.

And I have my own podcast. Come on. You want a drink to it? Podcast. Podcast. And I'm going to tell you why. Radio has to stop operating like it's 1993 or 83 or 87 they need to go to the fcc and say after a certain time yep we need to be able to say what the fuck we want to say right because that's the reason why

people come to podcast right because you could say whatever you want to say you could be as raw as you want to be you could be in this opinionated as you want to be you could be who you want to be that's why they're trying these companies that have radio stations are investing in podcasts right because podcasts is raw as you see television change they get you get the shit raw you get you know you get the house of the dragons and crazy shit like that right right dexter you get the shit that uh deon cole got you know the average jo Joe and shows like that. It ain't the Cosbys no more.

Right. And radio's still dealing with it in that manner. Right. And they don't want to make stars no more. Radio used to make stars. They made Flex a star. They made me and Dre and Lisa a star. They made Angie a star.

They made The Breakfast Club stars. They don't want to be investing in that Because they don't want to pay no fucking body So podcasting all day bro It's funny the way you say the uncensored part Because that's why pirate radio At least down south it was so big It was radio but it was Uncensored doing whatever we wanted to do

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Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. AT&T. Connecting changes everything. Luke or Akineli? Oof. Akin's from Queens, but I'm going to say Luke. I'm going to say Luke because Luke was the first dude that I saw that

had his own press implants, his own trucks, his own everything. He was Motown before Motown. And Luke gave us Trick Daddy, he gave us Pitbull, he own everything. He was Motown before Motown. Yeah. And Luke gave us Trick Daddy. He gave us Pitbull. He gave us Two Live Crew, Rest in Peace Crew. Poison Clan. Brother Marquis, Poison Clan, all that. Luke is, to me, one of the most important label owners before anybody else.

Luke had no middleman. It wasn't no Arista above him. Right. It was no Sony above him. It was no Interscope above him. Everybody else had a bout no Sony above him. It wasn't no Interscope above him. Everybody else had a boutique label. Yep. Luke had his own real fucking record label.

I used to watch them niggas press his records up in the warehouse, sleeve them, wrap them, and put them shits in the truck and go out across the country on the Luke Skywalker records before they got them for the Skywalker shit and take that shit all over the place. Plus, Luke fought for our rights to say what the fuck we wanted to say on the record. Hell yeah. The parental advisory. Without the parental advisory stickers. So Luke, absolutely.

And we just had Luke on here. That's pretty much it. Yeah, big up, Luke. And he talked about how— Don't disrespect Akanele. I fucking love Akanele. Luke talked about he took advantage of all the Caribbean and all the pressing plans being here for the Caribbean and for a lot of Americans. He took advantage of it.

I was L2. Come on. I'm going to not be. I can tell he's a legend, man. Remember that shit? Hell yeah. That separates me from the petty. Hell yeah.

Big up to Ike. And Luke and I played in the same playground because I came down here and KODs and all that shit. Okay. Absolutely. I remember getting to the airport. We come down here to do Luke. You know, shit a week come down here to do Luke. Should have we could work for you on TV Rats with Luke.

We come to the airport, and it's a limo for Ed Lover, a limo for Dr. Dre, a limo for T-Money, a limo for Ted Demme. We got four different limos. I get in the limo, and there's two naked girls in the back of the limo. I get out the limo pulling my pants up, And she getting out the limo, both of them. Say, oh, no, Luke say we with you for the night. God bless you, Luke. Thank you very much, bro. God bless.

Luke knew how to sell a fucking record. He moved something nine times in a row after that shit. He was moving something. Oh, me so horny. I was moving something in that limo. My wife going to kill me. Baby, I'm keeping it real. Mobb Deep or M.O.P.?

Mobb. Okay. I love M.O.P. too. Billy and Fame, two of my favorite dudes to be around. M.O.P.s, hell. Because they just such great dudes.

And it's wonderful to see M.O.P.'s growth, right? Yes. Because they're grown men now. Yeah, they're super grown. They got families. It's great. They healthy.

They used to be scared of them niggas right the niggas was scary the MOP was scary niggas but Mob because you know Havoc is so ill and rest in peace Prodigy and Lifetime in between the papers lines on the quiet storm niggas who fight rounds P.A. you heard of him

yeah yeah yeah Mob D bro Salt and Pepper or J.J. Fadd? Salt-N-Pepa all day. That's not even close. Yeah, no. I love J.J. Fadd too, but y'all don't have the history, the amount of hits, and all that shit that Salt-N-Pepa had. Yes.

Yeah, Ted did the Push It video. Push It. Wow. Yeah, and Get Up. I was at that video. Spend the rest of the set, Push It. At Get Up. Hell yeah. Everybody get up.

My nigga, ask Trench. Did Trench tell you I introduced him to Pepper? Did he tell us that? Nigga, I had a crush on Pepper. I sent Pepper a teddy bear, flowers, all kinds of shit. Yeah, she didn't like me. I wasn't good with that. She liked Trench.

So we was at Spring Break. And she was like, what's up with Trench? And I was like, well, what's up with me? She's like, fuck Trench. But She liked Trench. So we was at Spring Break and she was like, what's up with Trench? And I was like, well, what's up with me? She's like, fuck Trench. But she liked Trench. And I was like, yo, Trench, Pep want to holler at you. And then Pepa turned around and introduced me to my first wife. And me and Trench laughed all the time

because none of this shit worked out. But we got beautiful kids out of both of them. I wasn't ready for that explanation. But we do get, we got beautiful kids out of both of them. We got beautiful kids out of them. Yeah. That was all. I wasn't ready for that explanation.

Slick Rick or Andre 3000? Goddamn drinking. Drinking. Because I got to take in longevity. I'm drinking. I'm drinking. Andre who? 3000.

I ain't doing no more. But goddamn 3000 is one of the illest. But Slick Rick has been sampled probably as a rap artist more than anybody else. Like his voice. He almost like a James Brown to rap. Yeah, absolutely. And that great adventures of slick Rick is such a fucking moment. I fear he's still doing it. Crazy.

My favorite slick Rick shit is the pussy started yawning. He grabbed his clothes. He wanted to leave this place, but first he wanted to see the vagina face to face. He opened it up with his bare two thumbs. He saw crabs with speeds and Indian drums going hey, hey, hey. Nobody can do them shit like that. Everybody that does double rhymes, everybody that

even from Snoop to Gimme the Loop, Gimme the Loop by Biggie that do two different people is because of Slick Rick. And he gave us Dane the Dane, the Kango crew. So I'm going to give me the loot, give me the loot by Biggie that do two different people is because of Slick Rick. And he gave us Dana Dane, the Kango crew. So I'm going to give Slick his props all ways, but 3,000 had a longer longevity. Wait, wait, wait, tell me.

I thought Slick Rick and Dana Dane used to battle each other. They were in the same crew called the Kango crew. But wait a minute. They were in the same crew. Dana Dane? They were a crew called the Kango crew. Vance Wright,. They were in the same crew. They were on Dane and Dane? They were a crew called the Kanga crew. Vance Wright, Slick Rick, Dane and Dane.

Oh, so they had beef. No, no. Wow. No, them niggas wore ballets and all them shit. The fly ballets and the fly green socks. Wow. But you picked Andre. I have to pick Andre.

Oh, he did. Just because of the longevity. We took a shot for it, I thought. Did I do the shot? I'm so drunk. We took a shot. We took a shot. He didn't even know. I'm drunk. Don't lie to me. I have to pick Andre. He did. We took a shot for it, I thought. Did I do the shot? I'm so drunk. We took a shot. We took a shot. He didn't even know.

I'm drunk. Don't buy me. I'm drunk. No, no. I want to make sure we're accurate. Okay, so I took the shot. You said both. I'm saying both.

Okay. All right. The symphony or headbanger? Symphony. Okay. You said that quick. Yeah, I like that. Symphony.

The headbanger's pretty important, too, though. Very important. But the symphony. No, no, absolutely, because there's no... Now, if you just said scenario, ooh. But I'm going to take the symphony. Just because Kane said put a quarter in your ass... He played yourself.

That shit was crazy. And it's one of the first posse kids like that. Yeah. Right. Fat Man Scoop or Biz Markie? Rest in peace to both. Rest in peace to both of them. Take a shot.

I will never disrespect either one of them. Biz was a friend. Scoop was a friend. Scoop was a friend. Scoop, I put Scoop on the radio. Wow. People don't know that. Wow.

Via not directly saying hire Scoop, but Scoop worked for Tommy Boy. Wow, that's right. And he would come around with a big bottle of Scope all the time. And he would try to listen to this record, listen to this record. And I'd say, brother, why do you have this? Why do you got this? I just call him Big Scope. And he was like, brother, you got to be fresh.

You can't be talk when you're talking to these program directors, brother. Right on, brother, solid gold. He'd just say that. That's very true. So we took, go do a drop to say, listen, Ed, Dre, Lisa, on the radio, this fat man, Scoop, right on, brother. Solid gold. He just say that. So we took it. So yo, go do a drop to say, listen, Ed, Dre, Lisa, on the radio, this fat man's school. Right on, brother. Solid gold. And we started playing that.

And Steve Smith, rest in peace, was like, who is that guy? And I was like, that's the guy from Tommy Boy. Right. Yeah. Wow. You know, I feel terrible because we had communications for him to come on. And it's like a lot of people. It just never ends up happening.

Granddaddy at you is my biggest thing that I wanted to make happen. You didn't get Granddaddy U. That's my favorite rapper of all time. I heard you say that a few times. I love Granddaddy U. From the Granddaddy U. That's what's hard right there. Only built for Cuban links or reasonable doubt?

Shit. Drinking. Yeah, okay. Drinking. I can't do that. I can't do that. I can't do that. And is that both the first solo albums? Yeah, solo albums.

And Jay was right. We laying down on Reasonable Doubt. No, I ain't going to lie to you. I always say this on this show. I always say Reasonable Doubt went over my head because I think I was broke at that time. Like, maybe that's for me. For me. Like, not for you, but for me

because he was saying shit. I wasn't broke, but I still wasn't doing the shit he was doing. I wasn't relating to certain shit it was. And then years later, I was like, ah. I get it now. 22 twos. What is it? 22 twos? What is that? He said, what's the difference between a 4.0 and a 4.6? He said, 30 to 40 grand.

Oh my God. And I was like, damn, I didn't know there was a difference. In my lifetime was like, damn, I didn't know there was a difference. Yeah, I was like, Jay was wild. In my lifetime, I was like, what the fuck? Nobody look like this. Nah, Jay was ill, man. When Jay say, we don't drive X5s, we give them to baby mothers. I was like, goddamn, nigga.

X5, bro. What are you talking about? Hold up. Calm down, Jay. You're killing niggas out here in the streets. Jay made niggas take from their Range Rover, take the 4.0 plaque off the back of the Range Rover. Because the 4.6 cost about $40,000 more. He made niggas actually get a 4.0.

If you had a 4.0, you took that shit off. Jay's influence on pop culture is unmatched. He made you wear throwbacks, then he made you take off throwbacks. He made you wear the throwback, and then he took the shit off. I don't wear throwbacks. I'm 30 plus. I'm a first player jeans. Nigga buttoned up.

Nigga's been buttoning up. We's all buttoning up. Fuck Jay-Z, son. I'm like, nah, fuck Jay-Z. Love hoes, man. Hoes, man. That nigga's social impact

is ridiculous. Yeah. Both black and gold. Yeah. Stay in the Dominican section. Nigga, hey, hey, hey, hey, listen,

we did. He's speaking to our Latin market. Yo, we did, we did Powerhouse. We did Powerhouse one time, right? So,

the Bentley dealership, I mean, I mean, the Mercedes dealership in Manhattan let me hold a Maybach for the night. So,

I come to the Powerhouse and I parked my Maybach downstairs next to Jay-Z's Maybach. It's my shit right there. Right. So, after the show, Jay go, yo, whose Maybach is that right there? I say, yeah, that's me, ho.

He said, oh, Eddie Mack, I see what you're doing. Yo, let's go to 4040 Club. So me and this nigga get in Maybach to Maybach. I got me and my man D, my assistant. We rolling. Jay and Beyonce and the other joint. We rolling. We going to 4040 Club.

Traffic is crazy going through the Lincoln Tunnel. Jay rolled the window down. He waving at people Lincoln Tunnel. Jay rolled a window down. He waving at people. Nigga, I rolled a window down. It was like, fuck me. You couldn't move traffic. But I had to tell a nigga at the night. We want you to know that's not my Maybach.

It's a loner because the next time you see me, I'm in a Honda Ford. Yeah, nigga, I was in a Maybach that night. I'm in front of that. That nigga said, Eddie Mack. Nice. I ain't going to lie to you, nigga. I can't do that. I can't do that.

You ain't going to see this shit tomorrow. Biggie or Big L? Biggie. L's life was cut too short. Yeah. I think Big L would have been amazing, man. He would have been fucking amazing. I ain't going to take nothing away from Big L.

If he would have signed the Rock of... Oh my God, that whole... What is it? The Children of the Corn? All them Cam, him, Mase, Bloodshed, God rest his soul, and Big L? Them niggas was lyrical right there, bro. They still lyrical.

I watched it. It is what it is. It is what it is. Nah. Oh, they still go in. They still go in. Yeah, they kill a can and murder mace right now. I'm still waiting for you to go in one day, too, my man.

I ain't gonna lie. They inspired me. You should go in. You're gonna have to go in. I can't do it on a drink, champ, because then I look like a... No, fuck it. Do it. Say it.

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Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it. Say it, y'all niggas. They started running first. Right. Say it, y'all niggas. And I would say it. Y'all niggas inspired me.

Check this out, though. Yeah, this nigga's right there, man. Yeah, Big L. Okay, 80s or 90s hip-hop? 90s. Okay. Queens or Brooklyn? Queens all day.

I knew that. I was born in Brooklyn, but it's going to be Queens all day. Who's the man or Juice? Come on, who you guys know? Juice. I knew that. I was born in Brooklyn, but it was going to be Queens all day. Who's the man or Juice? Come on, who you guys are? Juice. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I thought he was going to say it. Juice.

Why? It had a bigger impact than who's the man did. Who's the man was dope, but Juice was better. I didn't think that. Do you think how people say that they think that... Oh, you're going to see a shot, yeah. Drinking the wrong shit. Y'all saw that?

You think that Pac playing Bishop, really people think he took on the form of Bishop? He was already that way. Right. That's when the young niggas are 17 and that's what they think. No, that was already Pac. He was already on that. Pac was Pac. Right.

He was always going to be Pac. Wow. It was going to be no different. No, Juice was absolutely the catalyst that blew him the fuck up. It just showed how talented he was. Absolutely. Right. Fat boys are the beastie boys.

I'm drinking. I'm drinking. And the only reason why I'm drinking is because Charlie used to manage the fat boys and they had an impact. They had a huge impact. I think they don't get enough credit. They don't get enough credit. People forget about them. People forget heavy and I don't know why they do that.

We were talking about that recently. Heavy, then Biggie, pun. Yeah. Okay. But Hef made it cool to be a big nigga. Yeah. Okay, I thought Fat Boys was first. But Fat Boys was more novelty later on.

Not to say it like that because I love the Fat Boys, but they wasn't fly. They was Fat Boys. They was Fat Boys. All you can eat. They was cool. Fat, love the Fat Boys But they wasn't fly They was Fat Boys They was Fat Boys All you can eat Fat, Fat, Fat Boys Heavy was cool Heavy was cool I'm rough and tough

With all that stuff I make you dance And prance Till you huff and puff There's just no way You can get enough Of me, yo, mister Big stuff

Niggas like I'm big, nigga Yeah That shit's cool Heavy was fly as fuck too Yeah, big and tall sales Went through the roof Yeah, absolutely Rochester big and tall Yeah, That shit is cool. Heaven flies. Fuck, dude. Yeah, big and tall cells went through the roof. Yeah, absolutely.

Rochester big and tall. Yeah, Rochester big and tall, yeah. But what Fat Boys did, I think, also for hip hop, is also enter the Hollywood space with this orderly. Yes, they did. Absolutely, they did. And they shattered image things. They shattered that.

And then after that came kid in play shit. And then right after that came Who's the Man? They opened the door for us. Yeah, man. That's why I think they're underrated and they deserve more props. Analog or digital? Analog. Thank you.

Analog. Because digital is any and everybody. Analog, you had to be good. Like, with analog, you had to spend $300 on a two inch tape and you couldn't fuck this shit up. You couldn't do it in your basement. Right. You couldn't do it in your basement. You couldn't get in the studio,

studio 150, 200, 350 an hour. You couldn't afford to fuck it up. Yeah. Unless you was at the shit in Queens or maybe D and D early, you couldn't afford no fucking studio time. Right. Right.

Nah, analog definitely. That's why the sale of vinyl has gone through the roof. Because analog is just better. It was better because you went to the store to get the record. Right. You went to the store. I remember when Get Rich or Die Trying came out, and Chris was my next door neighbor. He didn't even have a copy for me.

And I was running around the record stores trying to find Kane's Long Live the Kane, trying to find that record so I could have the hard copy. Y'all had my man Booju. Y'all had Booju, right? Remember what Booju said about owning your music? Yeah, he was always throwing around my record. I said, you're breaking my music.

Right, you're breaking my... That was his record? That was your record, yeah. And I remember the stuff you gave me on Wax. I still have it. That shit means something to me. So like Boozer said, if I don't pay my phone bill,

I lose my music. Yeah. I own it. It's a different thing. So I'm going to go analog on it. Yeah, I love that. I love that. Karis, one or Cool G Rap?

I'm drinking. Okay, yeah. I'm drinking. I'm drinking. Only because G Rap I'm drinking. I'm drinking. Only because G Rap is from Queens. We drinking, Vaughn. Eh? We drinking, Vaughn.

And Chris is one of the illest niggas I ever left. Oh, man. I can't choose that. Roll to the riches. I ain't gonna lie. I feel like I'm cheating because as we go on, the shots get smoother. They do not get harsher they get smoother

they be getting really smooth believe it or not that's an illusion no no not with Pappy not with Pappy not with this Pappy this Pappy is delicious

yes it's delicious Red Alert or Kick It Prey drinking okay cheers to those we drinking cheers to them two legends yeah

I'm drinking we drinking Pharrell or Ye whoo We drinking wine. Chips and them two legends. Yeah. I'm drinking. We drinking wine. Pharrell or Ye? Woo. Drinking. Damn. Now I feel like he just want to drink.

I'm in, though. I'm in. Drinking. Drinking. And he telling us no stories. Any stories for him? Pharrell or Ye? Ye, me and my man Tom, big up to my man Tom, one of my best friends. One of the first ones to ever do parties at Mars 2112. Yay. Me and my man, Tom. Big up to my man, Tom. One of my best friends. One of the first ones to ever do parties at Mars 2112.

Yeah. We did a Latrell's Freewell Welcome to New York party. Can I stop you for one second? Yeah. Let me just describe what he just described to you. That Mars 2112 is at what year? Can you tell us what year? Because I wanted to tell you.

And where is this place? This is in New York City. In New York. I believe it's Times Square. Midtown. Midtown, right? I could not get in this club at all. So this is the reason why I wanted to know what year this is.

There's a welcome to New York. Latrell Sweetwell just signed to the New York Knicks. Can you figure out? So, Paul, on the sports list for year one. That's two more. Latrell Sweetwell signing to the New York Knicks. What is it? What is this? a year with that. Latrell Sweetwell signing to the New York Knicks. What is this?

And outside the club was a young man by the name of Kanye West that couldn't get in the party. And he introduced himself to me. He said, my name is Kanye West. I'm a producer. I produced for Rockefeller.

I'm over here. And what do I need to pay to get in the party? And I said, nah, man, you just come on in. You down with Hovind? Right.

Yeah, come on in. Yeah. And Pharrell, he was, you just come on in. You down with Hov and them? Right. Yeah, come on in. Yeah. And Pharrell, he was, you know, he was, you know, Pharrell is the motherfucker that wrote All I Want to Do is Zoom. Of course, yeah, man. That's a classic. That's a classic right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, Teddy threw the talent show and he gave the niggas a deal. Right. And them niggas was producing. Teddy was taking the credit. You know the story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The beef between Tribe and them. Yeah. And them niggas was producing. Teddy was taking the credit. You know the story. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The beef between tribe and them. Yeah, that was crazy.

That was crazy. Yeah, but I can't choose between them. Okay, Clips or Dog Pal? Clips. Okay. Pusha T is one of my favorite MCs, bro.

Okay. And with him and Malice together, my nigga, the shit them niggas was saying, the shit they was saying was real. Like, drug dealers, like, real drug dealers knew that they was telling the truth.

Right. It wasn't like making up shit. Like, they was telling the truth. Nah, you could tell. They was moving weight. Like, it was like a blueprint to, I could do this too right now. Two little black niggas moving weight like that. Like, nah, they was real.

And really quick, Dog Pound new album is dope, and I'm looking forward to the new Clips album. Yeah, I heard about the Clips album. I'm very excited about that. Yeah. I like when niggas don't stop making records. They should. That's the sign they got a new album out. I love that shit.

I just like when niggas just don't stop. Like, you don't outgrow hip-hop. And art in general. Like, the other art form don't stop. They don't stop. Dolly Parton still got records coming out. Fucking, why we got to stop? One is going to church, and one is still drug dealing, but they both ran a little bit tall.

And you know what? That's balance. That's balance. But Malice is back. Malice is performing again with his brother. Yeah, but he ain't drinking. He ain't drinking. He ain't drinking.

He going to sit here and talk. I feel like he's going to be on that Rakim shit. Like, it's going to be hardcore. He praising the Lord. I respect that. He ain't going to say no crazy shit. But he out in the clubs again. I respect that, too. Who, Malice's? Yeah. God, son. God bless you, Lord. I respect that. He ain't going to say no crazy shit. But he out in the clubs again. I respect that too. Who, Malice's? Yeah.

Oh, son, God bless you, man. Yeah, yeah. At least in the Louis Vuitton clubs. I seen him in there. Brand Nubian or Tribe Called Quest? Tribe. And it's nothing against my... I got a personal relationship with Lord Jamal. That's my man.

My wife and his wife are really good friends. That's my man. But Tribe, bro. Right. Low in theory, Midnight Marauders, Tribe, bro. Tribe was the layman's De La Soul. Tribe was more relatable. You can, because De La Soul,

their rhyme patterns were so fucking incredible. Right. But a lot of times, it's like, what is these niggas talking about? And De La came technically first, right? Yeah. Yeah, I just figured. Remember when he said, I look at Q-Tip,

and he say black and black, mirror, mirror. Yeah, but besides that, a lot of this shit, you'd be like, what is they talking about? It was eclectic. Pajos in my lawn is one of my favorite records, and I kind of still don't know what they talking about. You know what it is? We're all just getting De La now.

De La deserves all the props, unfortunately. All the props. With True Going Down, yeah. But we just, it's like they deserve everything. But De was what, where everybody be talking about relationship goals. Right. Locks, De La. De La Soul, yeah. That's relationship goals.

Right. They could do whatever they want. And none of them niggas ever made a solo record. Right. Paws and Dove never went solo. They did all the shit together. They could have. They could have, easy.

You know the way the Lox respect each other to do their solo shit, but they still a Lox no matter what? Oh, okay. They respect their group more than... They respect that shit. Well, yeah. But Jada and Styles getting that solo money and Chic. Absolutely.

They getting that solo money. Motherfucking Jada is getting ready to come money and Sheik. Absolutely. They getting that solo money. Jada is getting ready to come to Cobb County, Georgia. Cobb Energy Center coming up, I think, in December with a symphony orchestra. We got it. We'll be there too. Shout out to Jada. Now that's Jada by itself or the whole

tour? Of course, the locks will be there. It's Bill as Jada Kiss. I was in Panama with Jadakiss, man, doing some shit with him for somebody didn't think. Not Panama, Florida. Panama, Latin America. Panama, Panama. And I got

to hang out with Jadakiss. And my nigga, the shit that he, some of the shit he was telling me, like, yo, I got tired of giving a puff my shit, nigga. Like, a lot of niggas didn't know until the beef, until the day, until the... The Rough Riders, like... Dipset shit.

Oh. People didn't know that that nigga wrote what you want to do. Oh, yeah, yeah. Only you know you're a DJ. A lot of the regular niggas didn't know that he wrote that shit. They didn't know that. That's real. Well, they got out of Dodge.

The Rock or Rough Riders? Rock. Okay. Rock. Jay-Z is too important. X is too because X was like, what, the only nigga that had two number one albums in the same year? Same year. But he put out Matt albums in one year.

Yeah. Here's the last question. Quick time slime, then you get back to the interview. Loyalty or respect? Respect. Okay, why? Because loyalty wanes depending on what you're giving. If you keep giving,

motherfucker's going to be loyal to you, but respect lasts a whole lot longer. Right. Like me. I have been respected for such a long time that I would rather have respect than fake loyalty. Loyalty sometimes comes at a cost. Respect pretty much doesn't come at a cost.

So I would rather be respected. Okay, let's make some noise for that. Now, is it true you and Miss Jones had a beef at one point? Yeah, because she was with Storm Buck Wildin' him in the morning talking reckless about me. And I'm the one who put it on the radio,

but it's all water under the bridge. But tell us what happened. I mean, especially if it's water under the bridge and it's all gone. So what happened? You put Miss Jones. Jones came because she had the Where I Want to Be joint out. The record. Yeah, and I liked her.

And I thought she was dope. And I told Steve about her because she was up there a lot. Steve Smith. Steve Smith. And then she got with them. And there was some words said, you know, about us because she was up there a lot. Steve Smith. Steve Smith. And then she got with them. And there was some words said about us when we was at Power. And they think they were still at Hot 97. They took on a beef with Hot 97.

They were for Hot 97. Me and Dre had came back from LA and we was on Power. There was some foul shit said. And I was like, remember, I got on the phone. I was like, Jonesy, we don't own these stations. What the fuck are we talking about right now but you know what's crazy

I remember at one point I could go to South Carolina and they could hit me in North Carolina immediately they had no beef immediately when New York opened up another station beef from the beginning from the gate. It was like

bloods and crips. I mean, let me not say that because I don't know. I had beef with Flex. Yeah, you had beef with Flex. Yeah. Because you went to power? Because I was at power. Okay, so describe us the situation because outsiders looking in, you guys to us and

Nigga, I had beef with Murder Heat, nigga. What the fuck? Yeah. How? I had beef with Murder Heat Nigga, I had beef with Murder Inc., nigga. What the fuck? Yeah. How? I had beef with Murder Inc. Nah, I had beef with Murder Inc. because one of the dudes that they had signed to their label had got shot and killed in O'Connell Park. A young dude.

I can't remember his name. God rest his soul. And I said something, and I said, there's no disrespect to Death Row or Murder, Inc., but there's a certain order that's going to happen when you name your company something like that. I said, that's why Def Jam was D-E-F Jam. And I said, no disrespect. They went on Storm Buck wild, trashing me, wowing on me, head soft. Murder, Inc.?

Murder, Inc. Ruling, ruling fucking Irv. Wow. And, I called my sister. My sister was the receptionist at Def Jam.

Oh, wow. Wow. Sonya Knuckles, my sister. And I told my sister, I said, you tell Irv, I'm coming up there to see him.

She said, don't come up here, pream up here all the time. Pream's with them. And I said, OK, now it makes sense. Right. Right. Why y'all niggas talking super hard now.

OK. And but it's all water under the bridge because Ron Gutter, who is Ja Rule's best friend, is my niece's father. See how this shit work out? Ron Gutter and my sister got a kid together. That's my name. Got a kid together. And I just did the Lisa Lisa Cold Jam movie,

and Ron Gutter's the producer on it. So it's all water under the bridge, man. Words get exchanged where they really don't mean nothing. But still, I know it's water under the bridge, but I want people to understand how crucial it was for New York radio because I could give my part of it, right? I had a record called Grimey. Grimey was number one. It was a shootout

in front of Hot 97. I got banned in front of everything. I wasn't there. You weren't even there, right? I wasn't there. They just did that on TV One. You know that, right? No, I did not know. Yeah, they just did the whole little Kim shit about that. Yeah, they said you wasn't there. They all said you was there. Yeah, they said I wasn't there finally. No, no, they all said

you were there. But then this time they actually said you wasn't there. I remember I was like, yo, you good? He's like, I'm not wanting to be here. 12 then this time they actually said you were there. I was like, you good? He's like, I'm not, I wasn't there. 12 films did it and I was kind of pissed because I was like, why y'all ain't talked

to a few more niggas that were actually around at that time? Yeah, yeah, because I wasn't there. But he wasn't there. But what I'm saying is, so that shit happened.

I got banned from every radio station. Even radio stations that didn't like MS Broadcast at the time, well, that's what it was, right? It was MS. It wasn't Clear Channel, right? right? it wasn't Clear Channel right?

still took their side and Russell Simmons who you bigged up earlier Russell Simmons personally came what's her name Tracy Clarity or Tracy Clarity? Tracy Clarity and said you can't

spank somebody for a person that wasn't there you can't spank somebody for a person that wasn't there. Like, you know, you can't. Right, they can't fault you. You can't fault me. I became back number one. Because Grimey was number one in the whole country. But when Hot 97 pulled my record and was broadcast, it set a thing.

But then Power 105 came, like like a couple of weeks later. I remember Mike Kaiser saying to me, this is my boy Mike Kaiser. Shout out Mike Kaiser. Yeah, there's two episodes in a row I'm talking about. But everyone was saying, we flipped the switch.

I was the only artist that technically wasn't allowed to say. I flipped the switch. You just got back good while I was I had just so if you listen to early early drops I have all the early drops

of all Power 105 every single person that Def Jam you know Def Jam was enforcing this label was like yo we're not only gonna have

you know hot we're gonna have this and by the way I'm gonna be honest when Power 105 first came out people didn't think it was going to work. Right.

At all. It was the underground. It was the... It was the anti-Hot 97. It was the anti-Hot 97. It's like how the next... How the next... How the next man Flex got into a beef.

Right. Yeah, explain that. Because I was on Power, and Flex was on Hot, and he had gotten into some shit with Steph Lover. But y'all was okay. Okay. Steph Lover. Okay. But y'all was friends before you and Flex. on hot. He had gotten into some shit with Steph Lover. Y'all was okay. Okay, Steph Lover, okay. But y'all was friends before. Yeah, absolutely. We friends now.

Right. So who was the Steph Lover shit? Him and Steph got into something. Steph was with us in Power. Okay. And they got into something about her being around there, something her and Flex had worse, something I was just on the radio like,

yo, man, you can't get on a girl like that. Right. Then he went on his show at 7 o'clock whiling on me and then i i just came back like dog like let's meet at 42nd street town square just me and you i'm like i will fucking punch you in your face like i don't give a fuck and then we got on the phone it was like yo we don't own these things it's like we're fighting over some shit that we don't own like this shit is stupid it's retarded and flex has championed the shit out of me right ever since I've been back on 94.7 The Block. He has championed the shit out of me.

And 94.7, that is under MS, correct? No, that's a whole different. That's Odyssey. Oh, really? That's Odyssey. It's a whole different company. But Flex, it happens like that sometimes, man. Who's on Odyssey right now on that station?

Syphus Allen's on there? Syphus is there. Miss Jones is on there? Jones is in the morning. Okay. Scratch, Shellyway, me, DJ Big Ben, and we just lost Mr. C. Mr. C, yeah, God bless him. And Fat Man Scoop had just started.

Oh, wow. Yeah, and we lost Scoop. I never understood why these radio stations would beef. Like, it was some street shit it was territorial it was never going to amount to anything but some of the talk was crazy talk was ridiculous

it should have been some shit they threaten me and I threaten niggas right back they doing crazy shit to each other we didn't want to get that I don't play with my family and it was clearly at one point if you give your record to Power 105, stay there. Like at one point.

I get that part. It was a great talk. If you give your record to Flex, Clue ain't taking your shit at one point. And it was just like, damn. You really had to draw a line. It was really like some gang shit. Yeah, it was.

You really had to go one over the other one. Corporate gang shit, yeah. You know, one of the first times I interviewed Nori as a solo artist, he came to the station and the first thing

I asked him is, do the Neptunes really got a caucus man? You know what I mean? Yes, I do. Because I thought it was an ill lie. You know,

running lots around the English channel, Neptunes got a caucus man. I was like, do you think it's got a caucus man in the studio? It was crazy. He was like, no, it ain't got a caucus man. I was like do you think it's got a cock and spank It was crazy I was like why the fuck you say some shit like that

Because back then we were relating guns to dogs So we were saying Rockwilders So if you listen to the lyric I said Neptune's I got a cock and spank Meaning like I got the little deuce deuce But uh yo Do you realize that you were kind of like An influential Your rhyme pattern kind of like an influential

your rhyme pattern kind of influenced Ghostface nah not Ghostface oh get the fuck out of here Ghostface

because he'll say any fucking thing let's take a shot for that let's take a shot for that Nori was one of the first niggas

that would say shit that don't mean no sense at all yo yo so how'd you quit in my life because Ghost say off the wall shit don't mean no shit at all. Am I like a ghost? Ghost say off the wall shit. Banana colored velvet rope.

What the fuck is that? Normie was that nigga. Cheesecake double fat. Normie was that nigga. Cocker Spaniel shit. I rock an Umberto. What the fuck is an Umberto? Like a Mexican.

And it didn't even make sense. That's what I'm saying. I rock a Umberto. What the fuck is a Umberto? Like a Mexican. He would say Spanish words, but it wasn't even Spanish. And it didn't even make sense. And I was like, yo, he's trying. That's what I'm saying. He's my Latino brother. Yeah, he was trying. And nobody would correct me in the studio.

I would always listen to it. I was like, what the fuck is Nori talking about? But I got it. So then when I heard Ghost, I was like, that's a lot of Nori right there, man. Nori say ridiculous shit on records, man. But it was fly, man. Ghost shit is fly.

One of my favorite Ghost records is the, holla, holla, holla. The nigga rhyme with the nigga still singing on the record. The nigga's like, many lines have come to you, and this nigga's rhyming. I'm like, yo. He not even waiting for the shit to end. He didn't give a fuck. All he did was come back you, and this nigga's raw, man. I'm like, yo. He's not even waiting for shit to happen. He didn't give a fuck. All he did was come back here.

All I know is how I feel. I was like, yo, this nigga's hell. That's hip hop for your ass. I put it together. I put it together. I put that together. That's a lot of Noriega right there. So, roll call.

Y'all got that from the Baker Boys? Yes, we did. And I asked permission. Yo, shout out to the Baker Boys. got that From the Baker Boys Yes we did And I asked permission Yo shout out to the Baker Boys Shout out to the Baker Boys Another cool thing That they don't get no props Steve Smith

Wanted to jack the shit Straight up He just told y'all He said This is what the Baker Boys Is doing Listen to this Y'all should do this

I said I'm not doing it Until I talk to them Now the Baker Boys Is in LA San Francisco LA LA Wasn't they in San Francisco Or that was No no no At the time They was in LA Okay I talked to them. Now, the Bacon Boys is in L.A., San Francisco. L.A., L.A.

Wasn't they in San Francisco? No, no, no. They was in L.A. I went to L.A. for summer of 92, 93, and I heard them doing that. They was doing the roll call. Right. So Steve gave it to us. Right. Tape, listen to this.

Right. This will work in New York. Right. I said, I'm not a biter, nigga. Right. Because it was against the law. Right, right. Especially back then. Right. I said, let me call them, get them on the phone. Wow, a biter, nigga. It was against the law. Especially back then. Right.

I said, let me call them. Get them on the phone. Wow, that's honorable, man. Let me ask. And they was like, yeah, y'all go ahead and do it if you want to. I was like, okay, let me put a little spin on it. And the shit took off like crazy. I still got people that walk up to me and like, I was on the road call.

I was like 15. Like, that shit was crazy. Shout out to Nick V and Eric V. Yeah, man. Shout out to them, man. Shout out to them. We're so nice. They legends, man.

Yeah, man. They legends. Now, you used to play the trumpet? Mm-hmm. What the fuck is a trumpet? That's it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a trombone.

No, no, no. He said it right around here. That's a trombone. Oh, that's joint. That's a clarinet. Three. No, I got this shit. Only three it right on the top. That's a trombone. Oh, this joint. Oh, that's a clarinet. Three. No, I got the shit right. Only three.

Only three. He corrected me wrong. Only three. How you correct me twice wrong? He corrected me. Hey, I was in the right place. Wrong instrument, though. Yeah, I played the trumpet for a long time.

I was in a funk band. Right. You're in a band now? Yeah. Ed Lover presents a live mixtape band. But then I was playing the instrument. I got pictures of me in pink spandex, funk shit, high boots, Rick James shit, Confunction, Ohio Players. That was my shit.

You was on some Guns N' Roses shit. Yeah, I was on some Rick James shit, though. For real. I'm still real cool friends with all of them, and that's where Ed Love and the Live Mixtape Band is just full circle for me, 360 degrees. I got two fantastic singers, Carrie Epps and my man Sherwood. I got a full band. Full live band. I got DJ, and I just do all the rhymes. I do all the rhymes.

I do J, I do fucking mom playing tricks on me. Because you're doing covers. Yeah, we do covers. I do Jay. I do fucking Mom playing tricks on me. Because you're doing covers. Yeah, we do covers. That's dope. We do covers. And everybody just come out because it's for the people that remember this music when the music was pure, when the music was great. I do Nelly shit. We do everything, man.

We just have a good time. We sold out. We just came off the city. Wine and Retour sold out every city. Right. And we're just having a fucking good time, man. Just doing music. And I'm performing.

What is the newest MC right now? I'm talking about new. Under 10 years. That I listen to? That you at least like a song from them or something. Shit. None. Under 10 years?

Because I fuck with J. Cole and that young lady, 3D19? She's fucking dope to me, man. Snow Allegra, she's a singer, right? Nah. You know, no. Thank you. Because Young Thug been around for more than 10 years, right? Yeah, Young Thug.

Yeah, all the Migos. I love them niggas. I was surprised them niggas knew who I was when I met them. The Migos? Yeah. The Migos is hip hop. They used migos on tv raps jackets when i met him no way yeah it's like my uncles used to watch you go hey look at this shit like i was shocked they gave me so much love young thug gave me a lot of fucking love really where was this where was this at in uh in atlanta i met Atlanta? I met him in Atlanta. What? Yeah. I don't know the new, new... Okay. NLE Chopper. There you go.

NLE Chopper. NLE Chopper. I fucked with him. Yeah. Yeah. And Complex left him off the list, and I'm with him. Yeah, they fucked up. Complex, y'all wildin'.

NLE Chopper. NLE Chopper belong on my owner list. Maybe top five owner list of 20 in their 20s and he's not trash no he's not not at all and he got a character too I love

you know what I you know what I love you know what I don't like about some MCs this is not all new MCs is they give you two three word answers

when they're doing an interview because if I like your music I actually want to like you as a person too because I don't want to differentiate

the both. And NLE Chopper, he's one of those guys that gives you a full interview. He talks straight to you. You can tell he's, you know what I mean, whatever, whatever. So I agree. A big child to him. I like NLE Chopper. I agree with you.

How about, no, no, you said, that's it. I don't want to name somebody and then you say something crazy. Bro, we still interview. It's not nothing disrespectful. I'm 61 years old. Those niggas don't expect me to like that you say something crazy. Come on, man, bro. We still interview. It's nothing disrespectful. I'm 61 years old. Those niggas don't expect me to like niggas. You know what I mean? What's my man name that got locked up in Utah?

NBA Youngboy. I like him, too. Is that under 10 years? He might be like eight. He crazy as fuck. He crazy as fuck. He's the nigga you need to talk to to calm the fuck down. Yeah, yeah.

He needs a NBA young boy. He got a career if he learned not to react to everything a nigga say to him. Right. Females? Like I said, wifey baby. She out of

Atlanta. She's out of Atlanta. 3D, I said, wifey baby, she out of Atlanta. She's out of Atlanta. 3D, I said her. I like all of them. I like Megan. I love fucking Cardi, man. Cardi is dope. Cardi is dope. She's on the Bronx.

Her personality is real. And I think Lotto is really actually dope. I feel like Ad-Lob was a Lotto person. I like Lotto a lot. A whole lot. I think she's really like, if she just let herself go lyrically, and just really rap the way I know she can rap the way I heard her rap when Jermaine first had her, she could go, my nigga. She got balls.

Lotto was signed to Jermaine Duprivo? Yeah, Jermaine had her on that show. The show. The rap game. Rap game. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Jermaine had it on that show. That's a killer. The rap game. Rap game. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, Lotto's dope, bro.

Don't get it fucked up. A lot of it dope. How about Ice Spice? It's the Bronx. Nigga, it's New York. I'm a rep in New York. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, he's loyal.

Loyal to New York. Paul, we saw Laura London, right? Lady London. Lady London. Nah, she's fucking dope. And my nigga A Boogie with the hoodie. A Boogie with the hoodie is... He's out of here right now.

My man DJ Omanine, that used to be my DJ. Yeah, I met him at your show. O is A Boogie with the hoodie DJ. That nigga's out of here. That nigga had me introduce him in Chicago at Lollapalooza. There was 90,000 niggas out there. None of them niggas knew who I was. A Boogie said, this is Unc Ed Lover right now.

After that, I was fucking golden. Let's make some noise for A Boogie. Shout out to A Boogie. Shout out to Obanaya for putting out that play, man. My fucking Instagram went straight up, nigga. Because of the little niggas that say, oh, this nigga's. That's A Boogie. Oh, good.

Shout out to A Boogie. I'm taking a shot. You got a shot left? Just one last shot, goddamn. A Boogie put me on. I like when the young niggas put me on like that, son. Cheers. All right.

And this is how many shots we took just so you know. So we can know. But that pappy. Damn, look at that. Yeah, yeah. That pappy is so smooth. Can I have some more, please? Yes, please, please.

Is there more? A little ice, please. This is how I know you are OG, OG. You got the battery pack extra shit. Goddamn right. I got that shit with the kids. I got that shit. Yo.

You saw it? Yeah. The Apple shit. They don't even make that shit no more. I'm a fucking man. That shit helps. When you in the gym, you need that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. You got to have that shit The apple shit. They don't even make that shit no more. I'm a fucking man. When you in the gym, you need that shit.

Absolutely. You got to have that shit right, son. Now, we always got to talk about the come on, son. Now, I said I wasn't going to do this. Before we get to come on, son, I said that when I do drink, Chance, I'm just smoking a cigar. May I partake on one of them blunts?

Oh, absolutely. Now, may I partake? I must warn you. What's in here? It's hash. It's, that's not true. Now, I must warn you. What's in here? It's hash. It's hash. Old school hash. No, I can't smoke.

Okay, yeah, yeah. Somebody give me some straight up. No, no, no. You can wear a straight blunt. We can wear you a straight blunt. Give me a straight blunt. Yeah, yeah. Or a joint.

A joint. You got blunts? Give me something to take on. They are old school, son. No hash? All hash. No, no hash. No hash.

Give me some straight weeds. You remember hash from back in the day? It's weed, but it's the black weed. It's the black part. Give me some straight weed. You remember straight hash from back in the day. It's weed, but it's the black weed. It's the black part. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You remember cocaine. It's like. It's the pink cocaine.

It's the pink cocaine. Give him a straight. You want a blunt or you want a joint? I want. What is it? Like the raw comb? They got papers. They got papers. They got papers

all blocked. Give me your shit. I'm old school, nigga. I used to separate my weed on the album cover, nigga. I smoke with the seeds, niggas.

I'm out. Fuck a nigga up. So what's Dr. Dre status right what's Dr. Dre status right now? Dr. Dre is recovering. Diabetes fucked him up real bad. But we're getting Dre together.

It's probably very few people on this earth that I love more than Dre. So as long as I'm right, Dre's going to be right. You know, and he's my partner, man. And you know, you went through your shit with Capone, you know. Capone is a crazy nigga. And I don't's my partner, man. And you know, you went through your shit with Capone. You know, Capone is a crazy nigga. And I spoke with Capone.

But you're going to love your people no matter what. And Dre is my dude. He's always going to be my dude. And when he get healthy, we got a lot of shit that we got on the table that we're going to do together. Right. Because that's my guy. That's just what it is. Right.

Ain't nothing else about it. We don't have to talk to each other every day or every week, but when we on that phone, it's like we just caught back up. His daughter's like a doctor or some shit like that. Like, Dre, you know, this hip-hop shit been good to us, man. Right. I got kids with master's degrees on stage. That's right. That's right.

I ain't got no master's degree. You know what I mean? So the NFL helped pay for someone a master. Absolutely. Yeah. They tried to steal my shit, bro. Right, right. I ain't got no master degree. You know what I mean? So the NFL helped pay for someone to master. Absolutely. Come on, son. Yeah. They tried to steal my shit, bro. Wait, wait.

They tried. What did they try to steal again? Come on, son. Okay, come on, son. I did come on, son, before they did come on, man. Right. So it's the same shit. As you see it, they write it the same.

So I was like, yeah, Keyshawn, you know what you did, Keyshawn. What? So he tried to come at me. I was like, nah, I seen him. I was like, yeah, Keyshawn, you know what you did, Keyshawn. So he tried to come at me. He was like, nah, I seen him. I was like, yo, bro, you know that's my shit. Nah, I did. Nah, I was like, bro, I got my shit on YouTube way before y'all started this shit. Right.

So my journey. What's the segment that he started doing, Keyshawn? He started it off of Come On, Son. OK, yes. And we sent him a cease and desist. And I was like, fuck. Damn, I want to we sent them a cease and desist and I was like, fuck. Damn, I want to take my grandkids to Disney World.

I didn't shave my whole life's hair. And they just, they came right, man. Or to a football game. Yeah, they came right. Because you might have been kicked out of Disney

and a football game. No Giants games. So you settled. Yeah, it's all good. It's all good. They might have poked you out of, what's that shit,

tailgating. They might have kicked you out of Houston and killed you. That's crazy how much Disney owns, bro. Yes, it's all good. They might have poked you out of, what's that shit, tailgating. They might have kicked you out of Houston and killed you. That's crazy how much Disney owns, bro. Disney owns everything. Disney owns wild. Right. And you had to contact them, but they... Yeah, but it was my shit not on the trademark, so

they can't fight that. And you should fight for your own shit, man. Let's talk about the original... How did you come up with Come On Son? This is L. GZ and Drama had a beef. your own shit man let's talk about the original how did you come up with come on son that this is l gz and drama had a beef okay gz had his company and he hired drama to dj drama knew that he had beef with gucci and at the party drama dropped some gu Gucci shit. And Jeezy went fucking ballistic so they was beefing

and I was like, but nigga, the nigga Gucci was hot. Like, how can you not play Gucci shit at a party? I was like, come on, son.

You know, come on, son. It's something we always said in New York. It's like, son, you know, the niggas and dads don't understand why we say son so much. We just say

son. We still don't understand. Yeah, we are never going to understand. It's just something we don't say. I don't even know what we understand. But it was come on son. It was what I wanted to say. So I shot a video for it and I didn't have, I couldn't, Chiron.

Chiron is the way MTV used to put our names on the bottom of the screen. It was called chyron. And I had that little white mat, the first one. I didn't know how to do that shit. I don't think there was a way to do it. So I held up a piece of cardboard. I had just moved to my house.

I ripped the piece of cardboard off and wrote in magic, marker. It's just like that. Let me get that shit. Come on, we paint homicide with that. Let me get that shit. Come on, we're paying homicide with that. And I was talking shit and I was like, come on.

Right? And fuck out of here. 50 had this is 50.com. So my nigga was over there and I sent the shit to him and he posted it. And the shit got like 60,000 hits.

Shout out to ThisIs50.com. They posted it. They posted my shit, and the shit went crazy. But I read the comments, and niggas was dissing me crazy. Fuck that old nigga. He don't know what he's talking about. And my nigga said, come on, son. You know what my nigga said?

They watched it. That's all that matters matters is they watched it. Do another one. And that was the beginning of fucking Come On, Son. And that was Come On, Son, the podcast. All right. So let me, I'm going to point out to certain people in the room. And you tell me if I'm telling the truth or not.

And by the way you're telling me, are you telling the truth? With the sign. With the sign. Let's go. Okay. He eats the most Jamaican food in the whole place. The guy with the red hat. Good boy, son.

Yeah, that nigga look like he eat like everything, nigga. Sour, sour, all, everything Jamaican. That nigga eat a beef patty. With ice tails on it. Boris. Thank you, fam. This guy. He's me.

All right. I think he's Jamaican. Hold on. Hold on. Chill, chill, chill. All right, all right. Listen, listen, chill. All right, all right, all right. Listen, listen, listen. He's pescatarian.

Do you believe him or not? Come on. All right, you crazy. This nigga had a half a rack of ribs before he came over here. That nigga eat fish in front of y'all. Provide that nigga something. That nigga's going to McDonald's on the way. Soon to refinish, he going to McDonald's.

You gotta get a hat. Get a hat. I'll get a hat, of course. But Mr. Lee, Mr. Lee, stand up. Mr. Lee, stand up. Stand up. Stand up in Spanish. You heard him. Lee, stand up, Mr. Lee. Stand up, stand up, stand up. Mr. Lee, stand up in Spanish. You heard him.

He said that he learned English through music. Do you think he learned English through music or selling crack uptown? Or never learned English at all. Come on. This nigga got an uncle that work on Dykeman right now. That nigga got mad tricks on Dykeman right now. They got mad bricks on Dykeman right now, son.

Get the fuck out of here. That's what you tell the feds. All right, this is my friend Diego. Diego, get up. He's on maternity leave right now. Come on, son. Okay, Sonny D. Sonny D. He's the only Haitian that reps Haiti,

but never been to Haiti. Come on, son. That's how I'm about. I'm about to end shit That ain't a thing Little Haiti Here is Haiti Now he ain't allowed in Haiti Alright this our director

His name is I. R. Austin He's supposed to be a vegan But Sonny the guy from Haiti Caught him with a shrimp pizza one night Do you think he really vegan? There ain't no fucking vegan Get the fuck out of here Come on, son

Come on, son That nigga just as much vegan as I'm a fucking non-alcoholic drinker Get the fuck out of here, yo Oh, shit Veg-alcoholic drinker. Get the fuck out of here, yo. Oh, shit. Vegans don't smoke weed, son. Get the fuck out of here. Oh, shit. I wasn't ready.

Man, you look more Haitian than that nigga look. You look like a stunt double for Wyclef, nigga. What the fuck is you talking about? Get the fuck out of here. This nigga's a vegan. Get the fuck out of here. He's a vegan from veganism. Holy shit.

I wasn't ready, man. There's a round table of bullshit going on there. Holy shit. Maternity leave. Get the fuck out of here. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Maternity leave. I got it. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. How old have I ever been this stuck on drink caps before?

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Yes, yes, fantastic. The last episode of UMT Raps, when you had everybody there. Oh, yeah, last week. I know you probably talked about this a million times, but can you just describe what that meant to you guys?

How it came together actually efn for me it was after it was years after because you don't you don't know this shit when you win in the moment right in the moment right you don't realize that this shit is like the most epic shit it was sad for me because i knew it was the last episode and i didn't want it to be right i wanted to do at least 10 years of your own TV rap and it's the last episode Charlie our manager knew he's like they're going into that's the reason why I took the Hot 97 job

because he had already forecasted that they was about to get rid of your own TV raps because they was playing more hip hop and mainstream regular time right so he's like well if they gonna start doing that what's gonna be special about your own TV? So he was like, well, if they're going to start doing that, what's going to be special about you on TV Raps? So he was like, take this radio job.

And he told me what Howard Stern was making. I was like, shit, I can make almost close to that. Let's make something happen. So it was bittersweet for me. But at the time, I didn't realize that many people were in the room. I once heard Search tell a story about his beef with Hammer and Hammer was there and apparently

ran up on Hammer or some shit. I was like, if it did happen, I don't know. Wait, did Serge talk about that here? I don't remember him talking about it. Okay. But everybody was there. Everybody that was on the East Coast at that time was there. So it was kind the East Coast at that time was there.

So it was kind of like a bittersweet moment for me. But looking back on it, I didn't realize how epic it was going to be. And it was really the most epic. Was that an organic will call of people? It was like, yo, we're doing the last show. You're on TV Raps. Anybody want to come, come. And it was just like our idea.

Fab said, we got all these mcs in here let's do a cypher yeah and then the cypher was just insane and if you look at it that's what rhapsody will try to duplicate on the last episode which was dope over there as well and i was dope too yeah yeah but i always thought rap city got that like the freestyle segment or for the last episode of your mtv rap i would think so but i know i love ticket tickets a great friend of mine but i always say that the difference was rap city was a national show we were an international show right we were all over the world right you know like lee saying as he tells everybody that come in here he learned to

speak english yeah yeah a lot of people tell me actually that yo, I watched your MTV raps at 4 a.m. in Nigeria. That's how I learned to speak English. Was it because of the actual syndication was actually in those countries? MTV was all over the world. MTV wasn't all over the world. Right. It was before the merger. Right.

Before Viacom. Before Viacom or BET. Right. Yeah, we were all over the world. Because BET was in D.C. back right yeah we were all over the world because BET was in DC back then we were all over the world I remember Dre and I going to Japan

and we get off the plane and there's 15,000 Japanese out there waiting for us that don't speak a speck of English but they watch us like every fucking day how much pussy you got in Japan?

my share amount you heard what Luke said here this shit's wild they don't even speak English they wanna fuck it's just like I don't know how you fuck somebody that can't speak English like how you do that

I don't even know what to say she's got naked got in the bed I guess we fucking you said I guess and there was no comments I won't do it now chat GPT got you bro You said, I guess. Yeah, you know. And there was no condoms. I'm going to do it now. No, no, no. Chat GPT got you, bro.

Yeah, you fucked up, man. Do some shit like that. What did Willie Nelson say? He said, you know how much condoms cost back then? He said, who? He said, he didn't know. He didn't know. That's the only nigga snoops that can outsmoke him.

Yep, Willie Nelson. Yeah, he said, Willie Nelson is the only nigga that can outsmoke him. He said they had the bong, they had gas masks and all kinds. Yeah, I think he breathes weed. I don't think he's breathing oxygen. What the fuck? He said, I'm passing shitty, passing me shitty. Can't outsmoke that nigga.

I can't smoke with Snoop either. Snoop is a ridiculous smoker. Oh, he's out of control. I'll smoke Snoop one time. Outsmoke him? Yeah. When? Actually?

In New York, yeah. Really? It's documented. Yeah, he stopped. It's documented. Yeah, he stopped. It's silly. All right, buddy. Them niggas don't know how to stop smoking. This is the only weed I'm going to smoke all day.

Right. Nori don't have no lip. He don't got no chill button. No, no, he don't. No, I ain't going to lie. I don't have no chill button when I'm in front of a person like you. My dude, I've been remorse. I've been so happy to

give you your flowers to make sure that you understand how ill you are to this community. Our show is about, you know, when people get 10 years or 20 years in this game, people want to write them off and tell them they old and they old school. That's not what this show is about. This show is about giving you your flowers while you're

alive, man. Thank you, brother. I appreciate you. Like I said it earlier, you made doing you were alive. Thank you, brother. I appreciate you. I said it earlier. You made doing black media cool. Yeah, there's people that was doing black media maybe before you and Dre. And there was people doing black media maybe in a different way.

But no one did it in a style of the hood. You know what I'm saying? Even when I look at Cameron's show right now, and I love that show I love that show but they're doing it in that style meaning

like they're being they're being the barbershop with the suits on right they're being themselves and that's what I you was the first people that was being themselves

looking like us even when you wore karate outfits and you know what I'm saying and no shirts but you was being like us looking like us see jab me real quick

you saw that shit yeah nah but that us. See, jab me real quick. You saw that? Nah, but that humor is real. He stabbed me real quick, though. He did stab me a little. You had no shirt on and a crocodile. I was wearing camouflage. You were wearing the crotch suit.

No, but for real, like, you know, we were so happy to come home. Even when I did the print ad for Luggs, you were still loving me then? What? The ad for Luggs? No, the print ad for Luggs. Remember Luggs? Nasty work right there, bro. You were flexed. Yeah, we did. We took the check. I never bought into Luggs, bro. I took the check.

I took the check. As you should have. As you should have. They were paying it in. Fuck up. Take it. Did you ever wear Luggugs in public without the cameras? Absolutely. It was nasty, too. Quickly went back to Tim. It looked like they made your feet hurt immediately.

Like, shit, immediately. Because what was lugs? Supposed to be Tim's competition? Yeah. They were trying to get into that market. They were trying to get in that market. Yeah. That market was huge, and Tim's didn't even understand that market at the time.

Because they didn't originally come in for hip-hop. No. We make everything hip-hop. And Tim's, oh, shit, look, they sent us the lug ad immediately. Look at that. Yeah, I told you that was nasty, nigga. Don't show that to nobody. Don't show that to me.

That lug ad immediately. I look stupid right there, son. Holy shit. But it's good to admit that you did some dumb shit for the check, though. Yes. And oh, oh, oh, so now we just found out that Mars opened in February

1989. 1999. That was probably right around the time after that that my man signed to the Knicks, Latrell Sprewell.

Latrell Sprewell. And we had the party before he choked P.J. Colissimo. That wasn't on the Knicks. That wasn't on the Kn. That went on the next. Different squad. And that's when I met fucking Kanye West for the first time.

That's dope, though. Jesus, I need another drink. I got one more left in me. I have not touched this Basil Hayden, and that's a damn problem. You going to drink that, too? Yes, I am. You know you can take that home with you. We still got Pappy.

We can take that home with you. Yeah, we still got Pappy. When I'm drinking Pappy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. We got to bring back the old school set. You got to relax. Yeah.

I don't know. I don't know. I thought we drank it all. No, no, no. We're going to let you. Being that you ordered this, I want to impress you as my friend. Well, thank you, my brother. I wanted to let you know how much you mean to me.

And that's why i said i i love making sure our people take people drink orders and when you said american whiskey i was like yo we i gotta bring out this pappy and i brought out the 12 year that pappy is special bro it's special i don't know about everybody all all all my fans back home that's gonna watch this is gonna watch gonna watch me drink this pappy and be jealous. My wife is going to be like, why the fuck are you smoking weed? You don't really smoke weed like that. What are you doing? Babe, I'm on a drink chance, babe.

And we celebrate you, man. Damn right. I made it to the big time, babe. When I saw y'all niggas in Atlanta, what did I do? I stepped to y'all and said, when the fuck am I going to be on drink change, my nigga? In our mind, we already stepped to you. So, but hold on. This is how I know you're a real cigar smoker.

You bring your own cigars. See, when you made the drink order, I would expect you to say, here's my cigars. But this, see, real cigar motherfuckers like to smoke their own cigars. Right, because y'all might fuck my cigar order up. Yeah. That makes sense. That was one of me.

This is the Oliva Master Blend number three. Number two and number one were fucking amazing. So when I saw this, I was like, I got to get the Master Blend number three. So you got this out here? I got this. I bought these from Atlanta. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah.

Absolutely. I just didn't have the torch because niggas take your torch at the airport. And I didn't check no bags. So they wasn't going to let me bring my torch on. So your man was kind enough to go get me a torch. Because if I'd have lit this shit with a big lighter like you got right there, them niggas would have torn me. Oh, my God.

My Stogies on the Rocks crew, they would have killed me. I would have been banned. I would have been on punishment. So Stogies on the Rocks crew is a social have killed me. I would have been banned. I would have been on punishment. So Stogie's on the Rocks crew is... It's a social club in New York. He got his community of... I have my community, like Fellowship, a CRA. Those are the places, Cigar City Club.

I smoke there. I smoke at Life and Times. I smoke patio, two patios in Atlanta. Yeah, I smoke all over the place. And they know it's against the rules to light a cigar with a big lighter. It's against the rules. It's not a gas lighter. Because it's not fast enough to light it?

It's not a gas lighter. Look, we learned something again. I don't know shit about it. Bullshit. It's good for this, not good for that. You can get with this or you can get with that. You can get with this or you can get with that. Right.

Now, has Atlanta been good to you? Atlanta's been wonderful to me. Because I heard you got offered a sports job. I got offered a sports job on 92.9 The Game, but then they decided that they didn't want to hire outside of what they already had. Okay. And that's part of the odyssey, too. But sports is something that I'm really into, that I really love.

I've been a sports fanatic. I'm a New York Giants fan, unfortunately. Damn. But I'm a sports guy. I really love. I've been a sports fanatic. I'm a New York Giants fan, unfortunately. Damn. But I'm a sports guy. I like sports, and I think at the time what they needed was somebody that could give you sports in a layman's term. Like, I talk directly to people that watch sports

the way I watch sports. Right. That talk about politics the way I do, that talk to people the way you're talking to me. Right. Right? The way you guys embrace me and talk to me. That's how I talk to people. I you're talking to me. Right. Right? The way you guys embrace me and talk to me. That's how I talk to people.

I don't give them the, will the right guard pull this way? No, half the people don't know what the fuck they're talking about. The technicalities. Right. I don't do the technicalities. That's for dudes that play the game. Right.

And I respect the shit out of them, too. But I just like sports. But being that you said Jamie Foxx brought Oprah to your show. Yeah. Jamie Foxx is now viral for hanging out with you. Oh, with this shit with Jerry Jones talking about niggas' dicks? Pause on that, son. What the fuck was that?

Did we have to bring this to drink, champs? No, it was like a slave thing to me. Like, I thought slavery. Is it real? It's real. Jamie turned that shit off right when he said he's this tall, this amount of weight, his hands are this big, and he got an eight and a half inch, nine inch cock. I was like, how the fuck do you know that? Yo.

And that's the first thing I say. Yo. Yo, I want to be like. The owner of the capital. Come on, son. How do you know that, son? Give me that, son. Give me the fucking. Hey, Jerry Jones. Come on, son. How you know that, son? Give me that, son. Give me the fucking A.J. Jones.

Come on, son. Fuck out of there with that phone, sweet boy. Yeah, nigga. Crazy shit. You can't even buy baby oil no more, nigga. I can't buy no baby oil, nigga. This is what I want to say about that real quick. Because Diddy is my nigga, right?

I want to tell everybody that there's a difference between Diddy parties and Diddy freak off parties. Right. Yeah. I've been to a thousand Diddy parties that did not turn into freak off parties. Maybe I wasn't famous enough to be invited to them shits. I don't know. But those parties were not the parties that I went to. And amen. Goddamn right. That parties that I went to. And amen.

Goddamn right. That's all I want to say about that. I don't know. I don't know. Amen. I ain't never been to the freak-out parties either. But I've been with my wife, so maybe. But I didn't see it.

I didn't see it personally. And when the feds get you as you know we saw it with murder ain't they want to milk your bank account so you ain't got shit left the feds don't lose nigga they come yeah the only niggas i ever know that beat the feds were fucking irving them they come when they come and barely huh and barely and barely right they don't come until they got some real shit on you right so they putting puff in the trick bag right now because of the way they define sexual trafficking. When I was a teenager, we went to the whole stroll. We went to Hunts Point.

We was talking to bitches. You know the 21st Street in Queens? Yeah, yeah. And the Bristol Hotel that fucking L.L. was riding about. The Holes used to be there. You went to- Park Avenue South before they cleaned that up in New York. That lover's loose right now.

He's like, Luke, hold up. I got to talk right now. But let's be fair. Hugh Hefner had freak-offs. Absolutely. Like, he had a grotto that was made for sex. Absolutely. Like, I mean.

I didn't fuck when I went to the grotto. You went to the grotto, though. I've been to the grotto. Let's hear about it. Yeah, I mean. I didn't fuck when I went to the grotto. You went to the grotto, though. I've been to the grotto. Let's start to hear about it. Yeah, I've been there. But ain't nothing happened. Ain't nothing happened. You know, Hugh was old as fuck.

I don't even think the nigga knew who I was. I was there. I was just in there in the grotto chilling like, oh, this the grotto? But it's different now. You had to smoke some weed, do something. Yeah, it's different because of the way they view where the laws are right now, right? Because we all seen the movie Taken.

We love the movie Taken with Liam Neeson, right? They snatching women off the streets. It's the movement of people. It's the movement of people. That's the problem here. That's the difference. It's the movement. It's the movement.

We're not defining it. No, it's true. It's the movement of people. It's the movement of the people. movement. We're not defining it. No, it's true. It's the movement of the people. It's the movement of the people. Once you move them across state lines and you're paying them for sex, they call that trafficking. Yeah. And with all due respect, we are not qualified to talk about this on Drink Champs. I don't think so.

And we shouldn't. No, because I ain't sex trafficking nobody. We're celebrating his legacy. We're not tarnishing his legacy. Hey, hey, hey, hey, EFN Nora, you want to know the craziest shit? My mother's 86 years old, so the shit came out. My mother called me. Baby.

I said, hey, mom. Are you on the Freak Freak tapes? I'm like, what are you talking about? And what'd you say? No, I said, no. Freak show. Let me tell you why she say that she say

cause my standing in the church is real good right now and I don't want I don't want to mess up my shit that's real shit though yeah I said

it's called the freak off and no I'm not on none of them tapes but that's that's a beautiful thing that you cause I remember you saying

when you was in LA after Big died that was one of the people who called you and said get get out of L.A. That's the first person that called me. Was your mom. Was my mother and said, no matter how you have to get out of there, get out of there. Right.

Because the vitriol on Big was disgusting on the radio. What? It was disgusting. I heard you say that. In L.A.? Yeah. Yes. When he died?

Yes. They were going crazy dissing him? Yeah. Poetess, who's a radio personality I love. Wow. She was on the radio. She openly took calls in the disrespect for Big. Oh, the people calling him.

She didn't disrespect Big. She didn't disrespect Big. Yeah. She was sad and said, we lost one of the greatest. And the vitriol that came and the disgusting words that they said about Big made me feel like I need to get out of here right now. Could she have edited that part?

Or at that time... No, that was live radio. It was live radio. It was live radio. So when they took calls, you couldn't edit that at that time? Okay. If she would have recorded them,

she could. Okay. But I don't think she recorded them. You don't think she recorded them? I just let it go. And it was just like his fat ass ain't had no business here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They know we didn't like him, she could. Okay. But I don't think she recorded. You didn't think you recorded. I just let it go. And it was just like, his fat ass ain't had no business here. Yeah, being here, yeah. They know we didn't like him after Pac died.

Wow. Good, good for him. F his family. Like, it was crazy, bro. And he's playing that on live radio. Yeah, it was crazy. And I heard you also say, contrary to popular belief, when Pac died, New York was showing him nothing but love.

Crazy love. You know, Nas, our homeboy, allowed me to step on his stage. On his stage, that's right. At National Coliseum and announce to everybody that Pac had passed away. And he had beef with Pac. Right. And he allowed me to do it. I told him because I heard Angie say it.

I was on my way to the concert, and Angie said, Pac just died. And I said to Nas, I remember he had on the red leather. Another nigga had no shirt on at the time, but that's not even it. Yeah, I'd go at him too. Don't worry about it. So the nigga had on the farmer's joint, leather joint, red joint. I said, yo, Pac died, man. I think you need to tell everybody.

He said, Ed, I can't do that. Here, give me the mic. So go tell everybody. Pac passed. And we did a moment of silence for Pac. But in L.A., nigga, when Big died, they didn't give a fuck. Can I play

devil's advocate for a second? Yeah. And I know this is not the same thing, but couldn't it be said that the same thing happened in New York when the Dog Pound and Snoop were filming the video? Nobody died at that time. You're correct. People were shooting. They said, but... You're correct. You're correct.

People were shooting. Yeah, but no one died. They said, hey, why would you allow this? Biggie said, why you allow these niggas to come in? Couldn't that be similar? It's very similar, but nobody died. We lost two of the greatest artists I've ever seen. Once somebody died...

Bro, I'm saying, nobody died by happen fact. First off, the shooting... You know what I'm saying? Shootings didn't occur until Atlanta. That shooting that happened What do you mean? With Suge and Puff. No, no, people got shot. People were shooting in New York.

But that shooting that happened when Suge Mann got killed allegedly by Wolf I can't say I was there, so I don't know. But allegedly by Wolf was what sparked the whole shit. It was never East Coast, West Coast. I think everybody in hip-hop knew. No, there's Coast, West Coast. It was always Bad Boy Deferent.

I think everybody in hip-hop knew. No, there's a lot of dumb niggas out here that don't know. Everybody that really was in the culture knew it was never East Coast, West Coast. It was this group. It was Bad Boy Deferent. Cube came to New York and did America's Most Wanted. So how the fuck was we hating on anything? Yeah, the Bomb Squad produced his album.

Right. The most New York shit ever. Made the most epic West Coast album ever. That's what my dad called them, too. Public Enema. I don't know what the fuck they talk about. Yeah. Yeah, but we never disliked, we embraced and loved West Coast music.

Even though sometimes we were so full of ourselves that we couldn't understand what was coming from the South. And the West. And the West. And the Southeast. Right, right. Right? But we embraced it when we got it. Sometimes it takes people a longer time to get it than you think.

We talk about it here often. And you know, I hear a story that you said that one time, not one time, but this time particular. This is a wonderful week. Thank you very much. Yeah. That when, I believe Big Daddy, I believe he got on a Saturday and you couldn't leave till Monday. Yeah.

So you had got. I couldn't get out of town. So when you finally got in your car service, I believe you said you laid down. I laid the fuck down, bro. You laid down. That's how shook I was. I ain't going to lie. Ain't no such thing as a halfway crook.

Just think it was a shook nigga. Right. I'm on the West Coast. You said that. Shout out to the hard times. Yeah, I'm on the West Coast. You said down. That's how shook I was. I ain't going to lie. Ain't no such thing as a halfway crook. Just think it was a shook nigga. Right. I'm on the West Coast. I'm on the West Coast. You said that. Shout out to- Yeah, I'm on the West Coast. You said that.

Yeah, I'm on the West Coast. Right. And when my car finally came and got me that morning to take me to the airport- You had a hood. Hood on. Hood on, pulled tight. You know, robbery hood. Right.

Like, I'm going to get rid of a sticker nigga. Right. And I laid down on the back seat until we got to the airport until I got- In a terminal. Actually, to my gate is when I took the hood off. Wow. Because I was that scared. Because we didn't know where it came from.

And you didn't know if it was for everybody. Right. Right. Like, they could just, like, we killing every East Coast nigga out here. I'm out here. I got to get home. My mom's just like- Yeah, if they're willing to kill the biggest guy-

I want to co-sign that because I wasn't there at all. I wasn't there. The source of it was. Where were you? Where were you, bro? I wasn't there. I didn't come out until 97, 98. I believe Big died 95.

97. 97, right? So I wasn't lit. So I definitely had no budget to go out there. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's very simple. Real nigga talk. Real shit.

Real nigga shit. But I remember, like, actually having a budget afterwards, and I remember me not having a choice. When I land in L.A., they had security for me. And, you know, I was like, you know, like a hood nigga at that time.

Like, I don't need security. And they had, like, almost insurance policies on almost every artist after Big and Pop. I don't want to ever say that's a conspiracy theory. I want to say that's

our culture who led that to that. But what if I'm naive and what if that was, do you think that ever was conspiracy theories for? I think it's an unfortunate, not conspiracy, coincidence. Coincidence... I think it's an unfortunate... Not conspiracy. Coincidence.

Coincidence. I think that it became so big that it got out of their hands. That's deep. That's what I think. I think once Pac died, I think it was on. Even though people knew that big didn't have nothing to do with it. Yeah, I don't think they... They still knew it was big.

No, they gassed it. They beefed it so big. It was so big. Yeah, yes. You know, hit him up and gassed it. They beef was so big. It was so big. Yeah, yes. You know, hit them up and all that shit. And record sales were through the roof.

And who shot you added to it. Which wasn't really at Pac. No, it was done before Pac. It wasn't about Pac. It shouldn't have been put out. And who? They said Puff pushed it.

Puff put that shit out. It shouldn't have been put out. Crazy, man. Really? I didn't know that. Yeah, we had a debate with, I think, Tony Ayo. We debated. I said no, because I

as a DJ. Shout out to Ayo, the most loyal nigga I ever seen. Oh, he's the most loyal. Ayo's our nigga. I had that record Who Shot You before that it, like, before they really released it. Did you play it? Really? I'm saying it was before anybody passed. Thank you.

EFN played that shit, didn't he? Yeah, but I'm saying before. It didn't thank you EFN played that shit didn't he it didn't relate to that when I played it when you first had it you didn't relate it to the park shit because the park shit didn't happen it was like DJ's we get white labels we'll get like test pressings and I was on

pirate radio and I'm playing it yeah but when it went like on radio commercial radio and everybody was relating it to the shootings, I'm like, nah, bro. That's not what it was. Right. But it looked like that to the general public. The general public.

And I think that was a huge mistake. Yeah. You could have held that back. And then, god damn, I still don't like to hear him up. It still bothers me yeah it does I know what it was

I know why he did it but it still it still fucks with me bro and it's crazy how big of it's such a it's a ill record it's a ill record

but it's a ill if you wanted to just out of context like I mean as a as a hip hop historian look at a battle record

it's one of the greatest ones it's up there with No Vaseline No Vaseline it's up there with No Vaseline. No Vaseline. It's up there with They Not Like Us. The Bridge is Over. Bridge is Over. Hey, man. It's up there. It's up there, man. You left rack. You wanted to... No, I don't...

Bridge is Over was just the queen. Yeah, it was just... You know what I realized about The Bridge is Over? I looked at KRS-One's age. There's no way he would've knew this shit he was talking about.

He was 14. Wait, what? Wait, when he did the bridge is over? No. Think about what the times he's talking about.

Oh, he's talking about when the hip hop was actually created. As live as it looked, as wild as it seemed, I didn't hear a

peep from a place called Queens. He was 14. You wouldn't have heard it. Are you saying we still got a case to this day?

All right, cool. This is like murder. This is like murder. We can bring this back up. We can't have heard it. Are you saying we still got a case? Yes, we do. All right, cool. This is like murder. This is like murder. We can bring this back up. We can bring this back up. Goddamn right. Goddamn. We can bring the charges back up, KRS.

We're not taking that. We ain't taking that shit from you, Chris. MC Shan is the judge. We got it. Yo, MC Shan makes a lot of sense. MC Shan makes a lot of sense. Now than ever before. Yeah, he does. Yeah. I fucking love Shan. Shan Shan makes a lot of sense. MC Shan makes a lot of sense. Now than ever before. Yeah, he does. I fucking love Shan.

Shan is one of our superstars. He's a super legend, man. He was fucking trying to fuck with LL at that time, too, and K-Rus walked that up. You need to take your man. Instead of fucking with LL, you need to take your man off the crack. I was like, God damn. Who smoking crack?

Back then? Yeah. But Shan's been honest about it. Did he say he was smoking crack? I was like, goddamn. Who smoking crack? Back then? Yeah. But Shan's been honest about it. Yeah, he been honest. Did he say he was smoking crack? I mean, I don't know about that part. But he's honest about his addictions. I love Shan, man. Yeah, we love Shan.

Let's big up to MC Shan. This is a fraternity. We didn't start a frat. But hold on, hold on, hold on real quick. Because I want to go back to something you've talked about on Drink Champs in relation to Biggie and everything that happened. When you and Mobb Deep did the record. to something you've talked about on drink champs in relation to biggie and everything that happened when you and and and mob deep did the record l.a l.a that what biggie told you yeah i i went straight to the tunnel we did it because i mean obviously we we weren't on so that was like the way to get

on like to like you know this is after the new York, New York record. This is right after the New York, New York record. The only rebuttal. There was a friend of my hood. His name was Chaz. And he brung me up. He was on the DJ list that was called. And long story short, we went in there. We just did a response.

We never really dissed him back. Only person that related to LA was a prodigy JFK on our way to LA and that was the only part the whole record that kind of seemed like it but I stepped to Big

I don't remember if it was that night or whatever night but I stepped to Big it was like yo we went back at him for you you know what I mean

LA LA he was cause remember it was Bad Boy mixtape remember had Stretch Armstrong Stretch Armstrong the DJ

Clue had one first. Doo-Wop was part of it. And Clue, ironically, being from Queens, he didn't... That was Doo-Wop, too. Yeah, that was Doo-Wop. Doo-Wop is a legend. He didn't put us on the record.

So Stretch Armstrong did. Big up to Stretch Armstrong and big up to Bobbito, but although this is a Stretch Armstrong move by itself. And I remember stepping to Big and Big like, nah. He was so smart. He was like, nah, we can't use that on the Bad

Boy mixtape. We won't use LA LA. You responding to them because what he's accusing me of, I didn't do. And I had, at that time, I was so naive and young. I was like, what's wrong with him? I'm representing for you.

And years later, come to find out, what he said to me at that very moment was real. I got nothing to do with what he's accusing me of. Right. That was Big's path on the whole shit. On the whole shit.

It's like, what he's saying, I love this dude, like, this is my guy. Yep. He always took the higher road on that. Like, I have heard stories that Big went back into the studio and took Pac's gun out of the piano. Yeah, I heard that. I heard that in the gym. I heard that. I don't know if it's true,

but he put it in his pants and walked out a multiple times. I don't know if it was him, but he sent somebody or him. I don't know. So Pac wouldn't have a catch charge. Right. Right. Pac wouldn't catch the gun charge. Right.

So I'm like, why would you do that if you had something to do with it? And I think I know for a fact Big was very hurt by him. He has expressed in the interviews. Like, I'm fucking hurt fucking hurt like I love this dude like it just got out of hand man and sometimes shit beef like that happens

it just gets out of hand niggas gassing you up right you gassing yourself up it's nasty nobody wants to back down nobody wants to back down and they were both Gemini

and God bless God bless the vibe magazine my mama and my sister yes sir I were both Gemini. And God bless the Vibe magazine. My mama and my sister. Yes, sir. I'm a Gemini. I get them both. Yeah, you get it. God bless the Vibe magazine, but the Vibe magazine. They put their fuel on it.

We can't say so. No, that fucked everything up. It fucked everything up, man. The media exacerbated that situation. Yeah, absolutely. They exacerbated it to the point of no return. Yeah. And the point of no return was that we lost two of the greatest artists that we have ever had. Yeah.

And I know it sounds like so like very like crazy, but we can't really blame anybody who covered that in that way at that time because we didn't understand that that was the end result. Yeah. How can we not blame them? Because there was no other example of that. Like, you know, like if right now, like fucking Kareem and Drain play Skelly and then one of them have to jump in the pool afterwards, that's the first example of that, you know?

I'm using that because that's very... I don't get it, but go for it. Yeah, because Skelly's a New York game's if it goes viral yeah yeah which was what which was doing back then they made it go viral but that was viral this is my thing though i think all of us looked at the vibe and we were all young people at the time and we looked at that article and we all were like no that's a little bit that they're reaching, they're reaching. They did reach. They're reaching.

I think all of us as young people in hip hop, honestly, it was diss records before then. But the vibe was really leading that. But no diss records led to death at that time. That's the reason why I do blame them, but I don't blame them because there was no example of that. Now, any publication that made coverage of that and led to that, like right now when I'm looking at all these cases, because there's fucking mad cases in hip hop. Like, you can look.

There's cases in hip hop. And in Atlanta, too. Everybody getting fucking locked up. Yeah. We got to start asking ourselves real questions. How much has hip hop made excuses for bullshit? For shit that's going to get us all fucked up. How much has hip hop helped or hurt the black community? It's helped a lot.

We helped more. But the emphasis is on how we hurt. Right. But we helped way more. We helped way more. DMX said something. He said he don't diss whack rappers no more because one rapper, period,

saves 16 families. And I believe that. One rapper, whether you whack or not. Y'all had the nigga Young MC on here. He gave the best description of DMX I ever heard him on. Young MC was ill, bro. He was the best. And he from Queens, too. He from Queens, but he don't claim us at all.

He don't claim us? No, no, no. He claimed LA. No, he claimed Queens, too. You know that, right? He from Queens, but he don't claim us at all. He don't claim us? No, no, no. He claim LA. No, he claim Queens, bro. Relax, man. Don't tell me that. No, we asked him quick time in slime. No, he only, no, no. What he said is he, because he made his chops in LA.

He did. That's what he, that's why he claims LA the way he does. I don't know. But he's a Queens nigga, though. He's a Queens nigga. Yeah, he said it. He said it. He's a Queens nigga.

Yo, come on, son. But, but, but. Yo, come on, son. But go on. Yo, you guys falling back now? But he went. See, if you don't claim Queens, nigga. Listen. But listen. He went back to Cali, and he never came back.

Yeah, he didn't. Yeah. I mean, ain't nothing wrong with that. He made his bones in Cali, bro. Ain't nothing wrong with that. He did. He made his bones. He was on the West Coast All-Stars.

He's on the West Coast more than he was in New York. Yeah. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Ain't on the West Coast more than he was in New York. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Ain't nothing wrong with that. But he did say something about X and X's rhyme style. And I've told people this a million times. X could rhyme any fucking thing. And it would have sounded dope.

Because of his voice. It's not a lot of people that can do that. Yeah, yeah. X could have did Mary Had a Little Lamb and the shit would have been L. He did. Rudolph had a red nose. Yeah, but he could have did Mary. Mary had a little lamb, and the shit would have been ill. He did. Rudolph had a red-nosed reindeer. Yeah, but he could have been Mary. You had a little lamb. A little lamb.

And the lamb was fat. The lamb I love. The lamb loved me, because I'm DMX. You know how I'm being. You know, I didn't know. That thing was ill, son. You had the red-nosed. Yeah, that thing was ill.

The whole dog community is a part of it. You know what I tell people all the time? You can put DMX on any fucking record. Any record. Country music and the shit would still be in hell. You can put Dolly Parton 9 to 5, working 9

to 5, what a way to make a living. See, that shit is crazy, son. X-Go was everything. Just saying that. X-Go was everything. X-Go was everything. And then Swizz told me the nigga didn't want to do Party Up.

Swizz told me that. Wow. That nigga hated Party Up. Rough Riders Anthem was Swizz's first placement. He didn't want to do that either. He didn't want that either. He didn't want to do that record. And that record's the craziest.

One of the illest records ever, son. Swizz's second placement is Banford TV. We continue. Banford TV was ill. Yes, yes, yes. And we already heard how you fucked that up.

Because he said... I didn't fuck it up. He said he wanted to make a beat and you didn't let him make a beat. Because that was like... He gave him a loop. And that record was ill. What you want you want me that's one of the greatest parts it's a record it's not a girl record. The girls don't love Bam from T. No, no. They ain't supposed to.

Bam! Bam! Boom, boom, boom, boom. Look at the DJ in you. That nigga Norris said, I'm never making a record with you even if your woman fucked the whole crew. I was like, he's a disrespectful nigga. Yeah, I was.

Thank you. But then he still did it. Nope, I never did. That nigga had a beautiful hole with potpourri and a section. He said, I'm going to put potpourri. I'm like, who is this nigga? Come on. Come on. Come on.

The nigga had a beautiful TV. I hope he had a beautiful hole. I didn't expect it. I expected gambling, shootouts in the backyard. I'm like, this nigga's house is gorgeous. Yo, you need gambling, shootouts in the backyard. I was like, this thing is house. Yo, you need to have shootouts in the background. It smelled good in there. Ironically, it was really Nassim's birthday.

I promise you. He got pictures and everything to prove it. Nassim, you remember this? Hell no, he's a kid. I know. Nassim was little. He was little, little. Yeah, yeah.

And they had, it was a cookout. Yeah, yeah. It just smelled good. Yeah. I was like, this is not going to work. they had, like, there was a cookout. Yeah, yeah. It just smelled good. Yeah. I'm like, this is not going to work. How old was Nassim at that time exactly? I think, like, 10. Oh, Nassim, you have to remember something.

Nah, nah. And West Orange? 10 is remembering something. Because you're 24 now, so this got to be, yeah, this got to be. Yeah, because. It's got to be eight years old by the way i got the flicks i got the flicks i'm gonna tell you why because if nassim was 24 was one and she's 25 so let me just tell you something oh shit here's here's here's here's

after this happened because lady came to my crib i love her it's like the only one time because i didn't know i was coming to your crib yeah love it it's like the only one time Chris Lighty came I didn't know I was coming to your crib yeah hold on look so there's only time Chris Lighty came to my crib

and then Ja Rule was there and he's managing Ja Rule at the time I don't believe he's managing 50 at the time no he wasn't next week he started managing 50

knowing that was the original yeah yeah he bought his bread he was buying his bread wow and then 50 dropped the freestyle he said I know where Nori live Knowing there was a wristband? Yeah, yeah. He bought his bread. He was buying his bread, man. Wow.

And then 50 dropped the freestyle. He said, I know where Nori live. You live by Nori crib. I said, oh, shit. That's where the girl moved to Alpine. Yeah, then move. Wow. Move got the fuck up out of there. He got out.

He thought it was me then. Wait, John moved? Yeah. Because he was getting that J-Lo money for writing. Right, right. And the writing shit he was getting that J-Lo money for writing. And the writing shit he did on Mary. He made a lot of fucking money. And then 50 made a freestyle.

I know where Nori lived. You live by Nori crib. How does the manager manage that? That's what I want to know. Chris managed it. Make some noise for fucking Chris Lack. That's a waterattin yo hold on these niggas got an ice cream section

yo yo we been drumming for 8 years this nigga Lee got an ice cream section holy shit I ain't gonna lie he taking a bathroom break I ain't gonna lie he taking a bathroom break I ain't gonna lie I'm enjoying this pappy me too brother thank you brother

thank you listen you being my OG from Queens is one thing being my OG in hip hop is another thing you being my OG overall is everything absolutely and you my friend too I fucks with you thing. You being my OG overall is everything. Absolutely. And

you my friend, too. I fucks with you. You ain't never changed on me. And you never changed on me, bro. You know what? When I saw you outside of the fucking Rock the Bell shit and Norris was like, you good? I was like, that's my nigga right there.

The nigga was like, are you good? You had a thousand niggas with you. Yes, I did. And you were still worried about whether or not I was good. I was like, yeah's my nigga right there. The nigga was like, are you good? You had a thousand niggas with you. Yes, I did. And you were still worried about whether or not I was good. I was like, yeah, I'm good. And then I came in. Y'all didn't give me a ball of Aces of Spades. God damn it. Do you want another one?

Yeah, God damn it. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Because for real, like, nah, this is for real shit. And let me say the same thing. I am so fucking proud of you, man.

Right, thank you. Because you've pivoted it. Yes. Right? And you made something that everybody is following. Yes. You got to realize, everything you're doing right now is what everybody else is trying to do right now.

God damn it, thank you. But they can't do it the way you do it. Uh-uh. Because when I watch you, I'm like, this nigga Norrie did his homework. Like, this nigga actually did homework. Yes, yes. Like, you're not just asking niggas regular shit. You bring up shit niggas and be like, how the fuck you know that?

Because y'all are doing your homework, man. And that's why y'all deserve what y'all getting. And that's why y'all the number one motherfucking podcast. That's right, man. Thank you. God damn it. Not to say I ain't coming for your ass, but I'm saying. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeahdamn it. Not to say I ain't coming for your ass, but I'm saying.

Come on, son. Come on, son. But I admire it. I admire it and I learned from it. My wife is my podcast partner right now. You got a couple relationships?

Miss Fruit. That's my wife. They call her Fruit. She is my podcast partner right now. You got a couple of relationships? Yeah, Miss Fruit. That's my wife. They call her Fruit. Okay. And she's my podcast partner, man. And we just, we talk our shit. We don't always talk relationships, but we just, I'm in a good place right now. How much more? I'm not probably after this weed, but.

Let's finish that, Pappy. Me, a motherfucking ad lover. EFN, if you don't drink a little bit of this, Pappy Me, the motherfucking Ed Lover EFN, if you don't drink a little bit of this, Pappy Nah, nah, nah You know what? You know, my wife told me You probably might drink some of the shit that they gonna drink Because Ed Lover's gonna tell you, drink a little something

A little, Pappy You gotta have a sip Nah, nah, give me a little bit of this Nah, nah, nah, nah Give me a little sip Give him a little bit of that, Pappy We ain't got much A little sip.

And my wife told me to be careful. And you know what? I'm going to fall into this trap that she told me. I'm going to... Can I get a little bit of... Oh, shit. There's no little bit. All right.

There you go. Come on. No, we share out. Because I need you to have a... I need... If you've never had this... All right, relax, buddy. Have you had this?

No, never, never. Okay. Okay. You're going to understand why this is the best shit on the market. You drank my Mahona. At first, it's going to taste like, ah. Then it's going to taste like cream soda. And then I'm going to be like, ah.

Then it's going to taste like root beer. So we killed that whole bottle of Pappy. Oh, this shit is nice. Goddamn right. Let's give a nice round of applause for that. That bottle of brand wheat. This shit is smooth as a motherfucker. Smooth as a baby ass, bro.

Don't fuck me up, but it's good. Oh, absolutely. I'm not doing anything else this evening. It's good. Hey, hey, hey. Hold on, hold on. Relax. Pause for reaction.

You're a drink champ. You're supposed to already know this. And he drinks everything. No, but I stick to my own shit. I was very happy I didn't ask me to drink that Mama Juana. I wasn't. But I drank it. Pappy, you got to drink Mama Juana.

Look, trust me. This is not as bad as you think it is. I already knew when I came here I was going to have to drink it. Let's go. That's it. To the drink champs. To the drink champs and family. There we go. That's it. To the drink champs. To the drink champs and family. There we go.

Super something. God damn, I'm not taking that home. You can't go from that. I need some plastic to run this shit. I mean, look, you could do voodoo with this, whatever you want. We can get plastic on both of these. I mean, we're going to make sure. I'm going to have to check my bag. I ain't checking it. We got a little bit we gotta check my bag we got a case where's the case you got the case set

case of what the photo where we run the john case of the high school blues yeah and then we're gonna wrap the other one up man i appreciate it yeah yeah and those are gold flowers that will not die because your legacy will never die thank you man yes man with y'all's man god no no hold on not for real i want to thank you from the bottom of my heart and when i whatever i said i'm pretty sure it comes with my partner we love what you did love the platform that you laid out whenever you see somebody being they self on a hip-hop platform you need to pat yourself on the back because the one million percent truly becomes from you and your partner.

I don't want to forget him because he's not here. And we wish him a speedy recovery. We wish him, you know... Next time we come, Dre gonna be with us. We need that. We need... Ed and Dre together. That'd be so dope. But we want you to know, same way you told me

every time I seen you anywhere, that your platform is my platform. And this is the 360, like how your live show is, the 360 of me telling you that our platform is your platform. Thank you, my bro. I don't care what you want to promote. You want to promote candles that comes with toenail wax? We're going to promote it. And we killed that pappy together.

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