Drink Champs - Episode 432 w/ Method Man (Live from Revolt World)
Episode Date: October 18, 2024N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. Live from REVOLT WORLD, in this episode we chop it up with the legend himself, Method Man! DC Alumni, Method Man joins us to share his journey! M-E-T-H-O-...D Man shares stories of finding success in the world of acting, making classic music and much much more! Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss! Make some noise for Method Man!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more: 🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it.
We wanted to give y'all one of the best shows that you've ever seen live, obviously.
And we have one of the illest people ever to touch the mic.
We found out that he's a sex symbol. We didn't know.
Yo.
Because he's just our brother.
He's a real dude. He's going to smoke us out the roof.
Who we got?
Who we got?
We got motherfucking M-A-T-H-O-D.
Eddie, man.
M-A-T-H-O-D, man.
Matthew, man, in the motherfucking building.
Make some noise.
You might not have been ready.
You might not have been ready. You might not have been ready.
Oh!
My brother.
My brother.
Yo.
Yes, I'm so excited.
This is off the chain.
Should we get drunk?
Yes, we getting drunk.
Meth doesn't get drunk.
I know, but should we get drunk?
Yeah, we gonna get drunk for meth.
So, Meth, you said one of the best statements I've ever heard in hip-hop.
What was that?
About Summer Jam.
Goddammit, go ahead, girl.
Go ahead, girl, wherever you at.
I loved what you said, because you was like, yo, you know what?
I'm going to follow my trajectory, where my fans... Go where you loved.
Yes.
So, why did you feel like that about Summer Jam?
Well, it was obvious, first and foremost,
that we've aged out of that Summer Jam crowd.
They were particularly there to see one person,
I think it was Sexy Red that night,
and a few of the other artists that was on the bill.
And I can't blame them for that.
What got misconstrued was they thought I was mad at the crowd.
I wasn't mad at all.
I'd be a fool to be mad at somebody liking what they like.
Right.
But the thing that pissed me off was the way, you know, it's New York.
So even if you don't like the music, you know who the F I am.
Right.
Period.
So when that narrative started to take
thank you when that narrative started to take flight i had to snip it in the bud and basically
speak my truth right um do you think us as being new york artists that that that's a very big uh
venue summer jam and they did break a lot of us. I was at the first fucking Summer Jam.
You was at the first Summer Jam.
I performed at the first fucking Summer Jam.
Wu-Tang?
The first one.
No, me.
You?
No, it wasn't Wu-Tang.
It wasn't Wu-Tang.
That's the first Summer Jam?
First Summer Jam, Wu-Tang.
Yes, sir.
Wow.
Y'all got to understand, they used to have Battle of the Beats, right?
Battle of the Beats, Angie Martinez.
Yeah.
And they had to retire the Method Man song because it was up there for too long.
So, yeah, I mean, yeah, we was at the first summer jam.
Yo, wait, hold on, hold on.
Can we tell you the joke?
How did you spell your name?
Did you know how to spell your name?
What are you talking about?
Method Man.
Yeah, I knew how to spell it.
That was a joke.
Like, how did that record come about?
Oh, right.
Oh, you ain't think I know how to spell my name when I say say n-o-r-e you might not have spelled your name right n-o-r-e n-o-r-e right
he spelled for thinking like that but i mean t-h-o-d man yeah but i mean hall of notes laid
the groundwork for that and you know a big hall of notes fan and you said it on drinks
earlier before with us. Yes, absolutely.
So, you know, you are influenced by what you're around.
And my parents, they listen to everything.
So it played a pivotal role in the way I write.
But were you always Method Man?
Nah.
Oh, you want to know what's next?
What was your first rap name?
Oh, you playing with me.
What was your first rap name?
I think it was like Papa Smurf or some shit like that.
Listen, Papa Smurf.
I was big on the Smurfs.
I was big on the Smurfs.
Big time.
Really?
Yeah.
That was your only rap name, Papa Smurf?
I don't want to talk about this no more.
I had a few, though, for sure.
All right, let me ask you, man.
I'm almost sure that you're going to pick what I think that you're going to pick.
But what do you like more, performing the record or making the record?
Damn, it's both really.
But the performing is, it's always great to know that something that you wrote as a teenager, 17,
and you're performing it on stage as a 50-plus-year-old.
A grown man.
Right, and people are saying the words that you wrote as a 17-year-old.
Right?
That right there resonates more than anything, you know,
as far as creating and performing.
I'm going to be honest.
Whenever I know I've got a show with you,
I'll be like, make sure I go before meth.
Oh, damn.
Why?
Because I don't like performing after you.
I'm like that with Busta.
Obviously, you kill the game.
No, this nigga be walking on people's hands.
This nigga go out there and walk on people's hands and people just standing there like that.
I used to do that shit.
Yes, sir.
And you'd be jumping on speakers and all type of crazy shit.
But you know what?
A lot of that was dictated by the energy in the room, man.
And it's like you want to separate yourself from everybody else.
And that kind of separated me and Redman from everybody else.
You know, when we get on stage.
Did you always like performing on stage?
It was nerve wracking.
Like I'm saying, did you, as you as an mc let's be honest
as an mc did you really did you prefer spitting in the studio or performing it
okay again both but the thing is this i would rather rhyme in a rhyme cypher than on stage in
front of a bunch of people,
because I know those people in that cipher are there because they want to be right.
Not because they have to be. Right. I mean, some of the people that I mean, a lot of people that come to the shows, it's the same thing.
But I'm saying, like, you're amongst peers there that are going to get everything that you say.
So that's the biggest element for me right there. when i'm on stage i'm still in that rhyme
cypher 360 degrees perfect yeah i'm gonna tell you something and i got your personal phone number me
and you talk a lot me and you you there for me uh direct us with you with the random texts and
i love you lord that's right i always i always and but i'm gonna tell you something this is
something that I cried.
And I never shared it with you.
I never shared it with Ray.
I never shared it with Ghost.
I never shared it with none of y'all.
But when I'm seeing the Wu-Tang documentary and y'all looking at each other and y'all rhyming.
And then, like, you over there to the side.
Ray is over there to the side. And y'all just talking and y'all just reminiscing.
I can't lie to you.
I think that very moment is when I really was like, I really, really love hip hop.
Like, I really love how iconic, how legends, like they just sitting there and they're just talking.
And it's just like, it's like the Avengers. It's like superheroes talking to're just talking. It's like the Avengers.
It's like superheroes talking to each other.
Absolutely like the Avengers.
It's like the Avengers.
It's like superheroes talking to each other.
I'm looking at y'all.
Then y'all still got jokes.
Absolutely.
It's funny, Nori,
because every now and then
when I'm on stage with these brothers,
you know, especially when it's not your turn to go or you're just watching a performance like everybody else in the audience,
and I'm looking at them and I see those same guys that I used to rhyme with in the staircase,
and it kind of brings a smile to my face and a little chuckle because it's like,
nigga, I remember you used to wear the same pants every day. Look at you
go, boy. Do that damn
thing. And that
feeling that
it's hard to describe, but I'm pretty sure y'all
get where I'm going with this and shit.
To see yourself as a child
again, but from
a man's standpoint, that out-of-body
experience and seeing the people that you
grew up with prosper the same way you
did, man, you wish you could
bring everybody with you.
Got you.
Now,
I
was luckily enough
to go see Wu-Tang
and Nas perform together.
What I
didn't realize, I got the experience, y'all, in Paris. But what I didn't realize, I got to experience y'all in Paris.
But what I didn't realize was
it wasn't a Wu-Tang show
and then a Nas show.
It was actually a Wu-Tang Nas show.
Y'all motherfucking mixed that shit up.
I sat there.
I, again,
I had another fan moment.
Like, I was sitting there
and whoever was filming me,
there was one person that was filming me.
He got me.
Because I'm just like, ah!
But who put that together?
Was that RZA?
I think it was a combination of Nas' camp and our camp.
Okay.
The mixtape version of it.
Yeah.
Honestly, you see the workload that we have over the years as well as
nasa's and different crossroads have come where we've done collabos especially with chef and ray
and nas you know they like brothers from another mother right so when this whole shit was put
together of course we're going to have that concept but the funny thing was i didn't make
the tour at first because i was filming later I came later on and again one of
those moments where you start with something and then you see the progression and when I got there
I'm expecting you know it's a Wu-Tang show but we got Nas now right this shit was like a Broadway
play and I was like wow it really was these dudes are really doing it man. I don't think I want to miss too many more shows
Yeah, I went to the Paris show and
Big up to Steve Rifkin. Um, I believe is actually a long nigga. I lost my water
That's that we be And I got it from Atlanta.
Go ahead, man.
Rest in peace, Richoni.
But can I say something, though?
Please.
I just want to say something about meth.
You are the epitome of the evolution of hip-hop appreciate
that and that's a lot and let me make more sense of that hip-hop has to grow up yeah and i feel
like hip-hop has a problem growing up no it's just the audience i'm gonna keep it a buck with you um
this has always been a young man sport and you can't blame them for that, right? I will blame them for that, to be honest with you.
The quality of the work has been so good that it has went past just this era and then it's over.
Nah, because some of these guys that came from those earlier eras are still relevant today.
And like I said, I go to a lot of concerts and things of that nature.
And some of the newer cats, they put asses in seats.
But the older cats have been filling up arenas with unity.
A lot of us together.
And that shit is crazy to me.
For real.
But I have more to add to that.
Yeah.
You, as an elder.
And the thing is, when I say elder statements, we're all involved.
Hey, man.
All of us.
All right, calm down.
If you don't know Spanish, you're a man.
Hey, man, calm down.
Mijo.
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You're doing all of that.
And that's what hip-hop can continue to do.
Hip-hop can involve everything.
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It does.
We just need a seat at the table where hip-hop is being controlled and distributed at.
You know what I mean?
That's the bottom line.
You went from stabbing Samuel L. Jackson to now defending him. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Relax, buddy.
In power.
All right, that part.
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That part.
Shout out to Michael Rainey Jr.
I believe he was a lawyer. No, part. Shout out to Michael Rainey Jr. I believe he was a lawyer.
No, no.
Shout out to Michael Rainey Jr.
because a lot of y'all,
and y'all got to keep it a buck.
After Omari was killed,
y'all did not want to see
Tariq have his own show.
A lot of people were shitting
on this young man.
Well, not even shitting on him,
just on the character.
And I believe he did a great job.
He carried that show.
And we're on our last season now.
We were blessed to even have four seasons.
So thank you guys.
Y'all played a major part in that.
Right.
Did you ever think that
you'll be,
like acting will be like,
what did she say?
She said, we love you, Davis.
Okay.
Thank you, bro.
Did you ever think that you'd be acting?
It's a two part question.
One, did you ever think you'd be acting?
Because I heard that you on a...
Let me break this down.
I heard on the set of Soul Plane,
you was very, very serious.
Absolutely.
You was telling people,
yo, we're acting now.
Right.
I don't know if I like you right now.
We acting.
That kind of shit. Yes.
So,
and I know I asked you this in a
different way, but isn't that called
method acted?
No.
No.
Let's say,
because, I mean, method actors,
they do that extra step
where if they're playing a homeless
person, they're going to go live if they're playing a homeless person,
they're going to go live on the street for like three months.
I feel that Metaman is a Metadactor.
I feel like you're one of those guys.
I can't even change my accent up.
It's a lot of work, but we get it done, actually.
Yeah.
That shit is hard for me.
That's as far as it goes.
Damn Sinidris.
That's as far as it go damn synedrus that's as far as my shit go
but but so so because i want to i got more questions pertaining to that but what made
you say that when because i mean this is the big rumor in the industry that method man was serious
on soul playing um uh cast well when you're coming into a different realm or a different craft,
there are people that have been doing
this shit for years and haven't got the
opportunities that you're maybe getting
at this moment. So you want to be
able to say that
this wasn't a fluke, first
and foremost, and I'm willing to do the work.
You know, so it doesn't
feel like entitlement or anything like
that and shit, you know? And I think people can respect that especially if you're
willing to do the work right yeah I respect that I'm scared to death to be
on the set with you nah you crazy nah I'm fucking with you
meth our show is about giving people flowers right we got flowers
flowers we got the new shit this is alumni flowers we got alumni flowers. This is alumni flowers. We got alumni flowers. All right. This is you.
No one else has these flowers.
This is the first of. This is the first of because we already got your flowers.
So this is a.
Fire.
Dope.
That is fire.
I can't smoke it, though.
But that is fire.
Thank you, guys.
Really appreciate that.
But let me talk to the crowd real quick.
Let me tell you how much this man means to the culture.
But let me also tell you how humble he is to the culture.
Humble as fuck.
Like, this man came to my neighborhood.
Yeah.
Left Rack City.
Came and shot a video with me.
By myself.
By himself.
And he stayed
and he took pictures
with every single person.
He's not going to do that tonight.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I'm throwing it on him.
But what I'm saying is
at the level you are
in success,
how do you still remain
humble like that?
Well, I know how I got here. know and um a lot of people supported wu-tang in the early years and that's the main reason why we're we're
revered today we didn't switch up on them so why would i switch up now you you know? Plus, I mean, that's just me. People always talk about the sexy thing, and I get it.
Because he is sexy, right, guys?
Look.
Okay, look.
I mean, girls.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
I don't even like bringing this shit up.
Yeah, you bring it up.
It seems like a dude is ungrateful or...
Let me just say this.
I'm smart enough to know what it means, right?
But humble enough to not let it go to my head. That's all I'm doing right there.
That's the main thing for real. And I'm 53 and I'm happy to be in the shell that I'm in right now to be living, loving.
So what you guys see as far as the physical, that's from the inner and what's coming from the inner is happiness.
Genuine happiness. So get you some. that's from the inner and what's coming from the inner is happiness genuine happiness
so get you some that's right i want to ask you get you some god comes down god i always you know
god comes down right god comes down and says man you got one record you could make to save the world with a producer one producer and one feature
who is the producer i believe i know who the producer is and a feature but then who is the
feature first of all i'm gonna be like what you doing in my living room bro god you're gonna
question god i'm gonna assume be like peace, peace, Lord. Peace to the God.
Can I assume?
All right, so.
Can I assume the one?
You can assume.
Uh-huh.
The Rizzo? No, no, no.
Nah, it wouldn't be Rizzo.
Leading the witness.
I can't produce.
I can't.
The Rizzo.
But I already did something with these guys, but I'm just going to use it again.
Snoop and Dre.
Oh, wait.
So, Dre would be the producer and Snoop would be the feature?
That's fine.
Hold up.
One second.
Let's really speak about this.
You're one
producer and one
feature is Dre?
Dre.
Dr. Dre.
Yeah, because every time I work with Drake,
I feel like I need a do-over.
You know what I mean?
You went in the studio with Drake?
The first time I was in the studio with him physically there,
that chronic different.
Because I never got that.
I mean, I spit a verse, but it wasn't up to par for me,
so Drake was gracious.
For the chronic, you said?
No, it wasn't for the chronic.
I was smoking that shit.
And got caught in a moment.
And was caught in a moment.
But Dre was gracious enough to not
put it out. It kind of leaked any
motherfucking way.
The second shot I got is for the
Dre and Snoop joint coming up in case y'all ain't know.
Dre and Snoop went back in and
he got a lot of fire shit on
there, man. Jesus, I can't say. You're on that
joint? Yes, I am. Oh my
God. And still, I feel like I could have done a
little bit more, but I'm always
going to feel that way. Yeah, we're breaking records right now.
I'm always going to feel that way. Yeah. But
one thing
I noticed
being on
the tour,
I mean, it wasn't like I was on the tour the whole time,
but I went to that Paris date and I seen it,
and I seen the camaraderie of Wu-Tang backstage.
I went to Nas' room,
and then I went to Wu-Tang's room,
and it was still like RZA was still like...
Amongst the brothers. He still like amongst the brothers.
He was still amongst the brothers.
And he sat there.
And this is the first time I've ever seen anybody ever do this in my life.
RZA had vodka and Japanese whiskey.
Yeah.
And I was looking like, this don't go together, RZA.
Shit.
But he was like, take a shot with me.
And I did.
Shit.
I couldn't say no to RZAizza rizza drink you under the table yo is is that like because i i'm by the way he he didn't give me life he
didn't give me the book of life i couldn't say no to him i couldn't say no to him is that something
part of the story did he fuck up i i don't know, but RZA can drink. And RZA can drink someone under the table and still play Bach on the piano kind of shit.
Yes, he was still on point.
But what I'm saying is my point of this question was I couldn't tell him no.
Yeah, he could be like that.
It could be like that sometimes.
Not with us, though.
We grew up with him.
Wu-Tang can say no to him.
Yeah, all the time. Okay, all the time. I did not know. that sometimes not with us though we grew up with it saying can say no to them yeah okay okay i i
didn't i did not know matter of fact to verify bring him on uh drink champs and you'll see for
yourself you know we had this whole thing we was going to meet rizza in japan nice we weren't
supposed to do it am i blowing it up we might be we might be might be it up but um so i you're a part of one of the greatest groups in hip-hop if not the
greatest group in hip-hop thank you right right thank you and he is one of the leads of the
greatest hip-hop group of all time we all leads so not real talk not real talk listen meth you could be humble and all this shit but you led that thing you led the thing
that was wu-tang clan we all love wu-tang but you led that movement let me get that lacroix can from
this motherfucker now i'm playing with y'all i love you brother thank you thank you i really i
really really appreciate it bro i really appreciate that but us like it, bro. I really appreciate that. Yeah, but so many people feel like that.
As a whole, I haven't made a record by myself that was even close to the hit that Cream was.
So I'll leave it right there.
Cash rule everything around me.
And that was a group effort.
Dollar, dollar, dollar, dollar.
One more time.
Cash rule everything around me.
Free, free, cash out, cash out.
And as far as the best verse
ever to come out of that camp,
that goes to Inspector Deck on
Triumph. So, as a
collective, they make me
great. So, we all
Hold up. Hold up.
We gotta figure it out.
You gotta work that.
You gotta spell the whole shit first. They say the man fought, my brother. So you gotta work that enemy
Enemy you got to spell the whole shit for say the man my brother me the HOD
I love it. I love it. Yeah, bro. I'm going to be honest. I love it. I love it. Let me let you. I'm just saying that to me is like the epitome of hip hop, bro.
Thank you, brother.
Yes.
Thank you.
Yes.
I was lucky enough to come up in an era where it was about lyrics and shit.
So the most important thing to us still at this point in time is what's coming out of our mouths and shit, right?
And Wu-Tang, it wasn't about, because the era before that,
and I'm not going to say any names, but we were starting to wear the suits.
Not shiny suits, that came after.
We were starting to wear the suits.
What suits is that?
You know, like the Miami Vice shit and all that shit.
Niggas were pulling their sleeves up on the suits.
Not Wu-Tang, Not Wu-Tang.
No.
It was dancing, R&B records with hip-hop lyrics.
Y'all know what I'm talking about.
Just do your research.
But Wu-Tang was doing that?
No, no, no.
I'm saying Wu-Tang, we came from, let's put it this way.
We were what people identified with every day in the streets.
We weren't the MTV, yo mtv raps crowd
things like that and to see someone up there that looked like you dressed like you didn't have money
and was struggling and all they talked about was the struggle people love that shit man they always
root for the underdog you know and um our first tour was a 15 passenger fucking van we got per diems every fucking day $35 fantastic huh fantastic
was the the van no i don't know what the van was it was just a big van of 15 passengers you know
with the regular shit the regular you know we're sleeping in these shits traveling from
state to state putting the grind in right and at the end of the day and shit it made us the
artists that we are today we We didn't get it handed
to us. We had to go out there and get
that shit.
I remember fucking
hustling just to get a first class seat from
Def Jam, nigga.
I'm serious. You had to be
gold, right? That was big for me.
No, you didn't have to be gold. You just had to, you know, I think it, let's just say this, you just had to be gold, right? That was big for me. You didn't have to be gold.
You just had to know your value.
Fuck what they was talking about.
Now, I'm not going to say no names like how you said earlier,
but all of these executives somewhat are getting fired.
No, they're not getting fired. They're stepping down. They're stepping down. Okay, that's what I said to you. They're not getting fired. No, they're not getting fired.
They're stepping down.
They're stepping down.
Okay, that's what I said to you.
They're not getting fired.
They're stepping the fuck up.
It could be a plethora of things.
What the fuck is happening?
That they too full.
There's some shit happening right now.
They're getting the fuck out of Dodge.
Honestly, it could be a lot of things, though.
What the fuck is happening?
They could be full.
Full of shit.
Maybe.
Yeah.
They know something we don't about the market or whatever.
Or third, everybody reads way too much fucking social media.
Eso mismo.
And they're out of here.
Walk a high up, bing bong, and done.
Fuck these people. The music industry is full of here. Walk a high up bing bong and done. Fuck these people.
The music industry
is full of shit
and they proved it
because they all left.
We're full of shit
and we're leaving.
What about the guy
at Nike?
Let's be honest, guys.
The music industry
is shit.
What about the guy
at Nike?
He stepped down as well.
Yeah, he's an asshole.
Fuck him. I don't know that guy, fuck him, too. That's a lot. I don't know that guy. I'm gonna do this guy so fuck him
Tell him how you really feel, effin'. Let's go.
There's something happening in the industry.
We don't know.
You haven't gotten mad that I keep calling you effin'.
I don't give a...
And it's on...
Bro, you know why?
Because I love you, dog.
It's actually D-J-E-F-N.
E-F-N.
I'm D-J-E-F-N.
And you've been doing drops for me.
And you said my name right.
Yes.
And then you say my name wrong
and I'm like, whatever.
But I did it on purpose this time
and you didn't catch it, no.
What?
I don't give a fuck.
It's fine, though.
I love you, though.
Listen to what?
We have Revolt World
and this is black excellence at its finest.
And Latino excellence
because I'm Latino.
Latino excellence, yes.
I'm Latino, sorry, guys.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
And contrary.
I'm Latino excellence.
I'm Latino, bro.
I'm a Cuban guy hanging out with people. And contrary... I'm Latino, bro. I'm a Cuban guy
hanging out with people.
And contrary to what people think, Latinos
were very instrumental in the start of
hip-hop. That's right. We're all here.
And guess what? For all of y'all that don't know,
these conferences, these
conventions, for us
to sit around and, you know...
It's important, bro. Shake hands,
kiss babies, and talk to each other
is very, very detrimental to...
Instrumental.
You know, they knew what I meant.
They know I'm from Resource Room.
I'm just helping out.
Y'all getting better at this shit.
I love it.
That's what's up.
That's fire.
That was fire.
Instrumental or detrimental?
Both of them are fire.
You get detrimental to instrumental.
Let's go.
So it's very important that we sit around we we shake hands we kiss babies we tell y'all how do we hear because if we're not going to make
each other better then who will right so this is the reason why we're here today we're so honored
to be interviewing our brother our friend but an icon a legend motherf a legend, motherfucker, M-A-T-H-O-D man.
I mean, it matters.
You gave him his flowers already.
Yeah.
Game what?
Quick time?
Out of control.
We got quick time?
We got quick time.
Oh, shit.
All right.
I love quick time.
Are you ready?
Yeah, because he doesn't drink, so it's cool.
He can smoke.
Okay.
You want me to start it off? I came out smoking. I'm good. Okay it's cool. He can smoke. Okay. You want me to start it off?
I came out smoking.
I'm good.
Okay, you don't have to smoke.
Okay.
Break one of Ghostface, Kelo.
Y'all did that last time.
I ain't answering that shit.
Y'all just want a drink.
Yeah, it's very true.
We don't even have drinks.
Yeah, you're both.
Both.
Yeah, I'm drinking.
Let's go.
I don't have a drink.
Yeah, go.
They said no. He's fine, y'm drinking. Let's go. I don't have a drink. Yeah, go. All right.
They said no.
He's fine, y'all.
I was joking.
Jay-Z or Nas?
Jay-Z or Nas?
Man, y'all are very entitled to your opinions, people.
Very entitled to your opinions.
Drink up, fellas.
Both.
Oh, man.
I'm not going to drink.
I'm not going to drink.
I'm not going to drink.
I'm not going to drink.
I'm not going to drink.
I'm not going to drink.
I'm not going to drink.
I'm not going to drink.
I'm not going to drink. I'm not going to drink. I'm not going to drink. I'm not going to drink. I'm not going to drink. opinion very entitled to your opinion drink up fellas both um that's gonna let you do the whole
day dmx or pock dmx or pop are you both right well yeah yeah yeah i knew x way better that's
my brother right there i'm gonna go x okay i'm gonna go x a lot of people gonna be upset about
that shit but the fact that i i knew new x that knew new X, that's the basis of my choice.
Big L or Biggie?
Big L or Biggie?
Damn, it's all these pos...
Why I got to be posthumous?
Hey, guys.
Both drink up.
Oh, shit.
Big L was my man's.
Biggie was my man's as well.
Red man or old dirty bastard.
Why y'all don't know?
Fuck, drink up.
That's too easy.
Drink up.
You should have said red man or method man, motherfucker.
I could have showed some real humility up here and been like red man all day.
Podcast or radio?
Neither, you fucking bloodsucker.
No, I'm playing.
I like podcasts.
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie.
I like podcasts.
Eve or Missy?
Eve or Missy?
That doesn't even match.
It does match for this audience.
I mean, what would y'all say?
I'll let y'all pick.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, yeah, which one is it?
Or is it Eve
So I'm going with Miss Eve
Big up to Eve. She got a book out right now. You know, I knew Eve since it was Eve of Destruction.
You met Eve since it was Eve?
Miss Eve. It's Miss Eve. Y'all got a drink?
Bro, yeah.
No, we don't drink.
All right, go ahead.
No, he ain't pick.
I said Miss Eve. Miss Eve.
No, you ain't pick. You ain't pick.
He didn't catch the nuance of this shit.
Relax, buddy. No, no, no nuance in none of this shit.
All right, ready?
Feraligay. No, no, no nuance in none of this shit. All right, ready? Pharrell or Ye?
Relax, everybody.
You guys got to relax.
Let him pick.
Interesting.
Stop it.
Interesting, because I don't really have a history with either one of these brothers,
but I admire both their works.
All right, will you guys pick?
A lot of people are saying Ye y'all say yay who says pharrell
you must be from va and the people that voted for yay must be from all right so
we're yay for we're good we're no drinking let's drink let's drink. Let's drink. No, no drinking. Drink. It's even. I ain't drinking shit to that.
It's even, DJ F-ing.
No drinking. Sorry, buddy.
All right, so.
Timbaland or Swiss Beats?
That I get to play this.
Swiss or Swiss. Yeah, drink. Fuck it.
No, no, no, no, no. But I'm going to say oh shit man. No, I don't know I never I mean
You work what you work to a sweet damn
Hold should we ask the audience
Nah, I mean
Is it Timberland say yeah
Okay, hold it hold it is thisland? Say yeah! Yeah! Hold it, hold it.
Is it Swiss B? Say yeah!
Yeah!
Y'all not gonna put Swiss on front street like that.
That was suspect. We gonna say both.
Fuck that shit. Yeah, fuck yes. I'm gonna drink to both.
Big up to my brother Swiss
who just hooked me up.
That was out of control. Didn't they do it versus those two?
Sorry. Yeah, yeah.
Give that man a shot of Habigi. Nah, he don't need a shot of control. Didn't they do it versus those two? Sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Give that man a shot of Habiki.
Nah, he don't need a shot of nothing.
No, my man right here.
The homie.
The homie right there.
Tommy Mottola over there?
No, no, that's the homie.
That's the homie right there.
Yeah, give him a shot of that shot.
Shot, shot, shot, shot, shot.
You know, they ain't want to pay me no more.
I felt like I got fired.
I'm not sure.
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So that's where I started at.
That's why I still met that man in the credit.
Acting?
Well, no, no, no.
It's always going to be music.
I love acting, but it's always going to be music.
So I picked one.
Why?
Because music is your first love?
Yeah, but I only do music now because I want to, not because I have to.
So that's good. But acting is in first place, period period don't get it fucked up i'm gonna do this acting
shit that's not right that's how i feel about podcasting like podcasting is in first place
but if i had the opportunity to do music at a high level right i might continue to do it like
that's that's crazy because i'm pretty sure there's millions and millions and millions of people
that want to hear Nori come back and do his thing.
But here's the problem.
Y'all don't buy records or stream.
So we get lost in the shuffle somewhere
along the lines and shit.
Not saying that the music isn't great.
It could be the best shit out.
I mean, Killer Mike,
a lot of people were upset that he won that Grammy.
Or he swept the fucking category.
Who was that?
Killer Mike.
And a lot of it had to do with ignorance
and being uninformed.
Because Mike had been around for years.
So he earned those fucking Grammy Awards
regardless of who was the hottest shit at the time.
That album was solid.
And he put the work in,
so he deserved them shits.
And that's a part of the problem with hip-hop as well,
because they don't want it to grow up.
There's too much information that we have
as former artists or former rappers or former singers
that they don't want these young cats to tap into.
So they draw a line and put this fence up and tell them,
if you fuck with that old nigga on this record, you're going to fuck your career up.
Don't rhyme with that nigga right there because he ain't got enough numbers on his streaming.
Don't fuck with her over there because she acting like she trying to be you. It's a lot of shit
that goes on and it's not even coming from the record execs. They just watching the mice play in the display.
It's coming from our own, the people that are around us,
because they're already compromised by your success, which is crazy to me.
I mean, that's what it was.
I was so happy when you made that statement about Summer Jam.
It was like, yo, it's a separation, right?
Yeah, sort of, sort of.
But a lot has to do with the radio and shit like that because they don't play our records still.
When I was younger, I was still hearing records from The Temptations and the Booker, but radio was more relevant back then.
So I heard a lot of music that was, you you know a lot of those cats were already passed on
and things of that you know mathis and yeah you know uh my man uh donnie hathaway you know what
i'm saying shit like that but i'm talking about hearing this shit in the 80s you know
like about late 80s yeah and then for some reason, something just flipped and hip hop just started dominating every fucking thing.
And it was like fast food and people was eating that shit up, eating it up.
Now, mind you, a lot of people talk about the 90s and they say it's revered.
Yes, a lot of great music came out the 90s.
But do not put the 90s on a pedestal because a lot of trash came out in the same fucking era
The same motherfucking error a lot of people were copycat and I remember when DOS effects first came out you'd be surprised hundreds of niggas
You know what I mean, so
You can't blame hip-hop for following a wave and trying to run with it.
You just have to be able to differentiate who the copycats are and who the originators are.
And that's where shit gets lost in the shuffle.
You know what I mean?
There's a lot of them that don't even know who invented hip hop shit.
I can't tell you who invented hip hop, but I can tell you where it came from and what inspired it It was the fucking struggle that we all was going through at that time and we needed voices
to fucking
Tell us exactly or express how we were feeling in those moments, but we also wanted to shake our ass
Thank you very much ladies and gentlemen
We all
Emulated somebody I tried to be somebody.
Did you ever feel like someone tried to, like...
New Edition, motherfucker.
I used to be in the mirror doing all the damn steps.
I'd be telling them...
You wanted to be Bobby Brown?
I wanted to be all them niggas, man.
You wanted to be Kid N Play.
Let's be honest.
Well, I'm a dress man.
Let's be honest.
It was amazing to me, like, because, you know, I hadn't seen anything like that since the Jackson 5.
I think N.E. does not get their flowers enough.
Those boys, like... New Edition, when you say N.E. does not get their flowers enough. Those boys like...
New Edition, when you say N.E.
New Edition, yes.
So there's a version of Method Man
that was out there?
Nah, they ain't got it on film.
Nah, I wasn't
trying to do Candy Rain. By that time, I was already
running.
But if New Edition need an extra
member, let's say Johnny can't make it, I got moves, B.
I know the steps.
Right.
A step.
Let's go.
Count me in, nigga.
Let's go.
Nah, shout out New Edition.
Salute.
Now, I also see the documentary.
And one of the things about the documentary with Wu Tang was you actually had
a legal job yes sir in the what was it this um the the what was it the statin of the Statue of
Liberty Statue of Liberty I'm gonna be honest I'm so sorry I had never been there until I got a job
okay I did not know that I had never been to the I got a job there. Okay, I did not know that. I had never been to the Empire.
I was like, Magic Man worked there?
I had never been in the Empire State Building
until they let us pull that Laura Lever shit.
Yeah.
I mean, when you live in New York,
you take all that shit for granted.
New York niggas is looking at us like,
these niggas is foul.
Because none of us never go to the fucking tourist places.
At all.
But you did work at the Statue of Liberty.
Like, people that live in Atlanta
don't really go to Lenox Mall.
But everybody think
everybody be in Lenox Mall.
No, no, no.
Shout out Lenox Mall.
I was there today.
Okay.
Salute.
Okay, so what made you
still be a rapper
and still go,
like, have a job?
A legal job,
because everyone at that time
thought that legal jobs
was, like, not for the guys. Well, you know what? At that time thought that legal jobs was like
not you know what at that point in time i was still trying to find myself
and um i didn't want to be hustling on the block but i was around hustlers
a lot to the point where it was like it was almost training for what my life was going to be
after i lost my job i wouldn't recommend that shit for anybody though. Hustling, if you're not,
nah, just don't do it. Fuck that, man.
Don't, like, you know, you fuck your community up and this is why a lot of
times, drug dealers
and shit around Christmas
and Thanksgiving, they'll tell you
like they had bad Christmases and they probably did.
But that's them giving back to the
community that they are fucking obliterate.
And I'm just keeping it a book and it's not our making it's not of our making but there aren't a lot of people
helping us to change it and that shit is frustrating as hell especially when they're
taking more and more programs out of public schools. I heard that they just brought back free lunch.
How is that even a thing to have to vote on,
whether you want to feed children or not?
That shit is crazy.
I didn't realize that.
Free lunch?
Yeah, we used to throw those little orange cups
from free breakfast.
We used to have fights with them shit.
As always.
I like my little juicy cups.
Yes, absolutely.
But yeah, more programs,
focus more on urban problems
because I think I'm tired of being
or just tired of our people being so low on the totem pole,
but we set the fucking level of culture
and every other thing that's hot in this fucking...
Let me ask you something.
How can we all help to develop these programs in our favor?
We have people doing things, but like I said,
it's not on a level where...
But we need to be involved.
Yeah, absolutely.
How?
Take the phone calls.
Take the fucking phone calls or make the phone calls.
Right.
It's that simple.
If there's one thing you would take back from back in the days, what would it be?
Saying, fuck Hot 97?
No.
I'm just playing.
You wouldn't say that.
During my career or just life in general and shit?
You know what?
That's a double part question now.
All right.
So life in general, if I could go back and change something or.
Yeah.
Yep.
I would change the living standards that we lived in as children for my mom and shit.
She had it rough.
God bless.
You know what I mean?
God bless.
She's still here.
Okay.
Yeah.
She's living in shit.
I'm still just saying God bless.
That's my baby right there.
That's right.
And as far as career. Career. I would have took it way more serious in the beginning.
Way more serious.
Because when you're at a level where you can't smell your own bullshit, you tend to get comfortable and unfocused.
And I had a lot of years of that.
You know? comfortable and unfocused. And I had a lot of years of that, you know, um, it's great to have this second act now where I can show people that I can contribute just more than a couple of bars
and shit like that. Um, it's great to wake up every morning and genuinely feel happy and just
live life. Cause that's what it's really about. We only get one of these.
Something that really resonated with me, this is one of those times I was on Instagram.
And this lady, this white lady was talking about, you know, in 100 years from now, those clothes you're wearing, nobody's going to care about those.
That house that you live in, somebody else is going to live there.
And they won't remember who the fuck you are that car that you love it'll be such an old model nobody will give a shit basically what she was saying you can't take it with you and once you're
gone it doesn't matter who you are no one will remember you i would like to say that
wu-tang has a district in my old neighborhood.
They're going to remember me.
Yes, sir.
Is New Face still here?
Our brother New Face?
New Face.
You know New Face?
I hope he got the trees.
No, I'm fucking with you.
I'm playing, I'm playing.
How y'all feeling?
Are y'all good?
Y'all a little stir crazy yet?
I get it.
He faces a legend in Atlanta from Detroit, right?
From Detroit.
But I don't even know what he got.
He wanted to tell me what he got, and I said, nope.
I want to be as surprised as Method Man.
Right.
Surprise.
Okay, I want to be surprised.
Can you show him?
This is a hip-hop historian.
He is a super hip-hop historian.
Atlanta native, in a sense.
Oh, okay, I see.
Yo, yo, yo.
Rap Dog.
What is that?
That's the Rap Dog?
Hold up.
The sauce.
Holy moly guacamole.
I don't even think Benzino got that.
I killed that.
I killed that.
My bad.
The XXL cover.
Yo.
I like this picture right here.
I was cool as a motherfucker, and they
let me sit in the middle.
I was like, yeah, niggas.
Middle nigga. M-I-D-D-L-E. Hey. I was like yeah niggas metal nigga M ID D le hey
I made though you're yeah
But whose sicknesses is that you got ghost and ray we did this album neither one of them niggas showed up to the studio
That's right. I told the world niggas
He got tapes. Remember those? Yo, he got everything, bro.
Nice.
Yo.
That new face, you got me.
You got me.
I got a sense of you.
Looks like a platinum CD to me.
That's what that look like.
You got me beat, bro.
Yeah.
Make some noise for new face in the building.
I appreciate y'all for this one.
Tell them what this is.
This is Ray Kwan, purple tape.
Only built for Cuban links. How long we gonna do this shit?
I don't want to kill your hustle and shit.
Basically, Sun is like the nostalgia dude. Nostalgia. New Face.
New Face nostalgia. Make sure y'all check for my man's here, because this shit official. You can tell he actually went and purchased
all this shit. All purchased.
This is where we used to come outside to buy. That's we we knew the producers on the album
Appreciation and I signed this one. What year was it quick? Oh you recognize your own signature? Oh
Nah that don't look like a whole for signal wouldn't know So those niggas know his signature? Let me get this one.
Who that is?
The War Report!
Nah, nah, get me the fuck out of there!
Hey!
Give me a...
Hold up.
It's all about...
Hold up.
It's an autograph on the side, right?
Yeah, it is.
To rave me up out of here.
What's that, Nori?
See you when you get there?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Get me out of there.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Make some noise!
Y'all are... Matt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get me out of there. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Make some noise.
Matt.
Yeah, this is dope.
Oh, my God.
Yo, I ain't gonna lie. Damn, new face.
I think I want one of those tapes.
I ain't gonna lie.
He got the RZA signature on there, baby.
He got the RZA signature.
All three letters.
All right, let's end it.
But hold on, hold on.
Yeah, I'm going to end it.
I'm going to end it.
I'm going to end it. But listen, to end it. I'm going to end it.
But listen, I want everybody here to end it with me, right?
Math.
Yes, sir.
You're my friend.
You're my brother.
Absolutely.
But I don't ever want to take away from the fact that how much you mean to hip hop, how much you a legend is, how much you an icon, how much you a tycoon. How much you mean to hip-hop, how much you a legend is, how much you a icon, how much you a tycoon,
how much you mean.
And I'm honored that I have you.
I could call you.
I'm honored,
but it doesn't take away from me
being your fan.
Appreciate you, brother.
It doesn't take away from me.
I'm a fan of yours, too.
You know,
loving and honoring
and caring about what he does.
Giving you your flowers for what you've done.
And I want you to never
to go a day without knowing
how much hip-hop loves you.
And I believe that all of these people in here
feel the same way.
Right? Right? Do we feel the same way?
I really,
really, really appreciate what you did.
Big up to Revolt World once again for holding this down.
They have a whole beautiful weekend.
It's not just today.
It's not just tomorrow.
It's not just the other day.
It's going to keep going.
You're going to keep seeing star power like this.
But let me thank you, Method Man.
Thank you, my brother.
I feel like I'm calling you your real name when I call you Method Man.
But I want to thank you face to face, man to man.
I want to tell you to continue to be who you are because, man, we owe you all of hip hop.
Thank you brother, I'll bust my ass to get here. Thank you brother, appreciate you.
Yes, yeah.
Pitcher, drop.
Yeah, let's do it in front of the whole crowd. Yes. What's up? Pitcher, drop. Yeah, let's do it in front of the whole crowd.
Yes.
AFN, make sure you motherfucking hydrate, okay?
No, that's not a joke.
Make sure you hydrate, all right?
It'll keep you from getting a headache in the morning.
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