Drink Champs - Episode 433 - “Family Episode” w/ Memphis Bleek, Lil Cease, Scoop Deville, K.Foxx, Grafh & Cardan!

Episode Date: October 25, 2024

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. And this episode is all about the family! Listen as we chop it up with Memphis Bleek, Lil Cease, Scoop Deville, K.Foxx, Grafh, and Cardan! Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!  Make some noise!!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And this is military motherfucking crazy raw. Drake Chan. Now, K-Fox, I want to start with you. You're originally from New York, right? Yes, Hell's Kitchen. Okay, so you moved to Miami. Yes. And then you moved back to New York.

And then moved back to New York. Is this a transplant episode? Is this what this is? It is. Y'all fucking me up, man. Y'all fucking me up on this episode. I feel like she's claiming Miami, though, right? No.

Yeah, definitely Miami embraced me. You know what I'm saying? So a lot of my career was made in Miami. Okay. You know, me and DJ Khaled, we held down the radio, 99 Jam, for a long time here. We broke a lot of records here. Right. So Miami embraced me for real.

So what is the most disrespectful city in the world, Miami or New York? Oh, it's a tie. It's a tie, right? It's a tie. I ain't going to lie. Did you see the study where they said Miami is the most disrespectful city in the world? Yeah, they said New York. I was like, New York?

They didn't even list. Yes, yes. This is the reason why you know New York has some rude people. They were mad not making it. You were supposed to take that and ride. The niggas was like, nah, man, we the rudest. I said, yeah, just so you know, you're a city foul.

All the New Yorkers moved here. That's why y'all made it. That's what I said. But we calmed down once we came to Miami. We had patience, right? Not in traffic. That's when the New Yorker come out. You're like, what the fuck they doing? And it beat traffic in Miami. I remember I used to come out traffic, that's when the New Yorker come out. You're like, the fuck they doing? Right, and it beat traffic in Miami.

I remember I used to come out here, there's no traffic. Yeah, no, Miami, the streets too small. Everybody got exotics, man. Bring the scooters back. Yeah, scooters. That's dangerous, though. Bring the scooters back. Now, niggas be too drunk out here for scooters.

And they keepin' the push, too. They gon' keep it goin'. Yeah. You know, Miami's like the only place that got a 23-hour liquor store. No, we got a 24-hour liquor store. I know a 23-hour liquor store. I used to always be like, what's the hour about, homie? You need a lunch break.

Just stay open. You need one lunch break. Yeah, a lunch break. Shift change. Yeah, yeah. So, look, so we're going to talk about current events. It's called a family episode. We're going to bounce around.

It's time to drink, though, right? Yeah. Mr. Lee, can we tell her in spanish i would like to lie she definitely she definitely don't speak english i went over there and said something about the ashtray she looked at me like him right here i would like to say some sangria. Can you translate the message? I think sangria is already

finished, right? Lee, put the headphones down. Come on. You're going to tell him what to do. Pinot Grigio. Santa Margarita. The Pinot Grigio. Oh, shit. Come on, bro. You got to take everybody's drink order.

Come on, Mr. Lee, you running around with all that paperwork. No, no, no, the Santa Margarita. Should've been taking that drink order. Wait, which one? Get up on her. Okay. Okay, okay. Uh-huh.

Gracias. Okay. We had J.J. and the D'Ussé today. Okay. Sonny, hook me up with a cup, man. The whiskey. The whiskey. This beast. No whiskey you gotta open up the do this I got I got a shot I got a shot out to Davis while we was talking about

You heard beyond saying I'm sinister case in some places here we was on it I'm a little gel cuz I ain't get one the first one in the store first off I went to ZZ's I walked in it was Alistar birthday and they just had the beautiful display and I was like holy shit so I was like you know let me get a shot so me my wife and what's my man name from the Yankees Ronda, Ronda, and... You know you're getting too much money when you forget other rich niggas. No, no, no, no, no. Crazy. And his wife. And his wife.

So we drank it, and both girls didn't drink it. So we both looked at our wives' glasses, and we was like, we're not going to let it go to race, right? So we took another shot. Boom. Then we took a third shot, and I was like, this is official. So we went and bought it. Have you taken the Beyoncés? I have not. Okay taken the beyonce's okay okay today yo you know what you got yo i don't know chill chill

see i told you salt and pepper salt and pepper what you drinking wait these things straight to kill us i mean tito straight he goes to eat eat those. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, okay. Hell yeah. Hold on, hold on. Our Cardano got this drink. Let's wait for Cardano to grab. I'm a brother right there, man. I'm a fan of Tito's.

He been in Miami too long. See what I did? I lat in my boy out. We take another toast. Okay, we got you. Everyone should formally introduce everybody that's at the table. That's what I'm saying, man. C's name ain't C's today.

He Tito C's today. Tito C's today. Word. My Brooklyn brother. He was on the life of the dog. He do that, he say he going to be on the show. I'm trying to say what I'm saying. Let's clip pop up. We the dog. Yeah, he knew that Duse, he gonna be on his. I'm trying to see. Every now and then, let's clip pop up with Faith. Oh man.

It's a legend that we clipped. The clip won't die. It's crazy how that came back. It won't die, bro. That shit will not go away, bro. What does Faith say again? Woo. Oh, you can say it.

You can say it. Let us hear it. Let us hear it. We can't say it. We can't say it. That clip is off. Let it go. Let it go.

That clip gets us in trouble. Our wives is not even our fault. He was grilling me like, yo, like, yo, is it cool? I like, I got to watch what I got to ask. I was like, nah, nigga. Yo, but she asked him. She was mad cool in that episode. She's a gangster.

On and off camera, she's a gangster. Yeah, she's genuine. But she can't, she fucked it up. All niggas fear that. Right. She said every nigga fear. When the nigga get it right, that's the one thing he want to know. What's that face expression?

So you talk about, I don't feel it. What I got? It's like you right here with a picture. Oh, shit. That was the one. That was the one. I think you had one drink the whole episode. I had 90 drinks. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Hold up. Go around the tables. Who's here? Let's do that.

No, no, no. Let's introduce the birthday boy. Go, man. Let's go. Go, go, go. Go, go, go. I ain't say nothing. We'll go at the end. At the end of the break.

I ain't say nothing because K-Fox, my sis, and I love her just like I love y'all, but y'all niggas on some shit. How am I going to introduce myself as the fourth host, too? I know what's going on. All right, well, let's take two. I think is awesome shit introduce myself as the Dropping soon We also got Bleak Podcast dropping soon. Yes, yes. You got my shit. You're holding it hostage. No, no, no. No, no, no.

We're definitely holding it hostage. People can't say that. Next time I'll be working with the Drink Chips. We're coming with the Picket Side Gang. Ross, did you get the footage? Yeah. The B-Dot footage? Oh, they didn't get it?

Oh, okay. Yeah, that's the problem then. problem then okay yeah that's a good I was a good one yeah you will be that be arguing yeah okay cameras come on niggas get too cool okay no gotta keep his swagger okay find I know I know I just found out be that is rap and radar so I gotta get an interview with radar. Okay. Okay outside, okay Now you went viral I'm bleak we were all vacation in Turkey kid goes that Prince house. I told about it Brother say yo my G you be in church all the time. How it is with the smoking?

He said, oh, nah, you good. Don't worry about it. It's nothing. I said, so I can bring what up? He said, trust me, you good. As soon as I touched that, he hit me. Yo, you good, right? I said, hell yeah.

I'm not telling you anything. Just holler at me. Don't worry about it. Norman got Prince House. We good. Turk's his baby Jamaica on the richer side. No disrespect to Jamaica. We love Jamaica.

But you see a lot of wealth. You see, like, you know, a lot of black wealth that I've never really seen. Hell yeah. But as soon as we came home from Turk's, they announced the Jay--Z who he picked for the Super Bowl. I felt like you was got attacked, but you went right back. What's wrong with y'all niggas? Your shit was hilarious. By the way, you're hilarious

on Twitter. No, because it's like you got to. It's like, come on, man. You can't pick people based on the city you're fighting. Don't get me wrong. Wayne is a phenomenal artist.. Wayne is a phenomenal artist. Kendrick is a phenomenal artist. But just because it's in your city don't mean you belong to perform. Remember, B didn't perform in Houston.

Right. Wow. Usher was in Vegas. Wow. He wasn't in the A. I think because everybody thinks that because the Dre and Snoop thing worked out perfect for L.A. That it should always go like that. Remember, that was Eminem got booked for the show Eminem people some of these niggas should become people's with niggas Man, get cool. You can't get caught up in the city shit. You'll be having to please whoever the city is.

That's the first time it happened, though. Because I don't know anybody from Sacramento. So I know there's probably artists. But if you've got the city next to Sacramento and there's no artists, like, yeah, but E-40 from the Bay, that's what I mean, though, right? But do y'all think that Wayne is ready for the Super Bowl? I think so. Opposed to Kendrick Lamar.

You can't get caught up in the state shit because you don't have to please everybody every Super Bowl. I'm just saying, after the Super Bowl, I'm performing aesthetically. Like being a performer aesthetically. Wayne is a good performer. I like Wayne. He got the catapult for any stadium. I agree with you. I believe you.

It's a phenomenal performer. Yes. It's a difference there. And it's crazy. He's hot now. What do y'all think if they combine both of them? What do you mean? Like together? I don't think so because

There's some real squash and beef shit at the Super Bowl and he bring out her drink and when heard a rumor that. I'm just throwing it out there. I didn't hear that rumor. I didn't hear that rumor. I didn't hear that rumor. I didn't hear that rumor. Let me tell you this. Who is really the bigger artist out of Lil Wayne and Kendrick? I don't think that's the thing. I think the argument is that they're saying that you should get. There's so many artists coming from New Orleans.

They have an argument. But the thing is, right now, Kendrick is the hottest artist on the planet. Like, we can't take that away, like, no matter what. And I think that's what the NFL and the whole association was going with. I wanna go with the hot hand. I was listening to your show earlier, and I believe Cam Newton, he co-signed that too.

Come on, of course, of course. Cam Newton said that Lil Wayne should be performing for the Super Bowl. He didn't agree with Kenji performing. Right. Yeah. But what happens if the Super Bowl next year is in Texas, and then they pick Lil Wayne, right? Right.

And then now everybody from Texas is mad at that. You're going to see a Bumby blog, and you know what I'm saying? A Slim Duggar blog. That's why you can't get caught in the station. You can't get caught. You can't please everybody. That's crazy, because you know you got to pay to perform at the Super Bowl. I know that. I know that.

I know that. So niggas saying, yo, you just, yo, do the work. I hope y'all got that 3-4-M. You got to pay to touch that thing. Why do you do that? I don't think you got to pay. I don't think you get paid. Yeah, I don't think you got to pay.

You probably got to pay for your production. Yeah, you got to pay for production. No, no, no. We got to fact check this, man. I don't think that. pay they pay for your production but basically you don't pay for nothing else so you like getting like I think they pay for your travel too but I think that's you just don't get paid but you get that look yeah I look so crazy that's gonna bring money for us That's going to bring you real money for us. That's life changing money you got to make after that, regardless

of the fact. Yeah, because Taylor Swift is fucking up sports right now. I hope she don't go to the Super Bowl. She went to the Yankees game. I was mad. Niggas lost. No, no, no. Yankees game, we won. Oh, we on fire right now. Yankees on fire. And the Mets. The Mets, yeah.

We might have a subway series. We might have a subway series. That would make the city on fire. Traffic crazy, but yeah. I would get on the train. That's the best way to commute. Is that why they call it the subway series? Yeah, because you could dead drive if you want. And they're being the world serious, so we push them.

Yes, yes. And the're being the world serious, so we push them. Okay. Yes, yes. And the Knicks looking good, too. The Knicks looking good. With homeboy Towns, Caps Towns. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Caps Towns. You better come with some money. You know what? I didn't see that until later in the game when he dunked it.

And then he was like this. Oh, and I was like, oh, okay, he could fuck with New York City. Because New York City, you could be lit, but still not lit. Like, if you went, you got to go every night. Like, every night. We ain't going to accept that one game. Have you been in the garden since the Knicks been lit again? No, I haven't.

Oh, my God. It's a different electricity, bro. I flew up just for the game. I know. I saw it. Yeah, yeah. You and my man Ching Lai. Yeah, yeah.

That's right. That's right. Big old Ching Lai. What up, Ching B? Can I get a straw, yeah. It's crazy. You and my man Ching Lado. Yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right. Big ol' Ching Lado. What up, Ching B? Yo, so, um. Can I get a straw? A straw? A straw, oh man.

We definitely not that, people don't want me a straw. No, we never got asked for a straw before. Damn, why you fucking, that's not cool. I do not have a straw, there's straws back there. There's straws? I'm sorry. Okay, all right. Keep it in the hood, man.

We elevated, though, we elevated. Well, hold on, C's, I'm looking at your chain, is that the original Jacob, Jesus piece? Nah, nah, they did it over though. Okay, okay, it looks just like the original. We had to go identical to keep it the same. Okay, okay, alright, it looks original. That was that, even got rocks in the bed, mustache. Yeah, that is it though, like, it's close. I was gonna say, yeah.

Nah, nah. That's close. Yeah, nah, go keep it. You gotta keep that. You gotta keep that. Word. So now, can somebody pass me the Lego? Can somebody pass me the Lego?

Oh, yes. Peace by peace. Peace by peace. Peace by peace. I hope I'm in here you can make me as a Lego too. I think I am. You're in the glory. Nori, you're in the beauty.

I think you're in the head. You're in the glory. You're in the glory. I think you're in the head. You're in the head. No, no, right here in that thing. No, that's Hov, I think. No, right here. That's where. Oh, you have one of their heads.

Like a tropical quest, right? That's how they do it. I think so. Yeah. I'm so good. Yeah, so the movie. So, Kardad, you got to see the movie, right? Yes, sir.

Okay. How did you feel? Shit was genius, man. Very creative. It's like a documentary fucking Lego movie. It's so like genius. It got nominated for Best Documentary, I think. It did?

Yeah, something like that. Oh, really? Yeah, a word? You gonna freak out, you win an Oscar. Wait, wait, wait, wait, tell me, tell me. If they win an Oscar, I win an Oscar? Yeah!

Yeah! You going to the Oscars, man! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! You going to the Oscars, man! You do it! Yeah! Yeah! He got that new hair! Every time I see this nigga, it's something new.

I'm glad you be getting fresh cut, they can call me that, like, get up tomorrow. I come, he get the line up on the set. You got nerves up with grease. You got to rub salt for that shit. Come on. I think I hate you, man. I am. Don't make me take your hats off again.

I know I got, shit, my shit clean bean. Boy, it's been being always a while. Yo, that's why I got to get a kiss up here because I heard we got a hair drown. Oh, word. I want to let them know I don't got no beef with you. Your kiss went back at us. I can't even fight. I don't have no hair.

I can't fight back. I can't grow back. Oh, they going to click. Oh, I'll be roasting toast. I was so glad that he went mostly at you, because you went mostly at him. I was glad. No, that was you.

That was you, man. You set me up. Then you going to come on again. My shit natural. No preservatives. No. Well, my shit all been, man. You set me up. Then you gonna come on again. My shit natural, no preservatives. No. Well, my shit all been, nigga. Yo, that's a great movie.

I like that shit one. It just be creative. I just wanted to do some shit that made me just want to be creative. I just wanted to buy my figure. I want to buy my figure. Your Lego figure. No, I don't. They gonna make mine.

Fuck that. I'm gonna force them. I mean, I'll buy it from them. Your Lego figure. No, I don't. They're going to make mine. Fuck that. I'm going to force them. I mean, I'll buy it from them. Like, yeah. We remade ASAP. That was hard. That was hard. For his birthday, right? Did you see Hov as a Lego?

Looked nothing like him. I know. I see now. They did kind of dirty with that, though. The hair was not it. Yeah, the hair. They had him S-curl. I still had dreads.

I was like, what's wrong with him? Yeah, I mean. You got it. You got it. They tried to do the whole whole thing. They tried to do eight shows. How did you feel about the movie came out? Oh, man, I cried. I literally cried because it made me fall in love with music again

because it reminded you of why you're doing it. There is no microwavable solution to becoming a global icon. You got to put in the work. You got to have passion. You got to be willing to lose it all and then gain got to put in the work. You got to have passion. You got to have gut. You got to be willing to lose it all and then gain it all just on your talent. And that's what this documentary really showed.

And then Nori's part was just hilarious. Like, he was in a pool chilling. Did that really happen when you was in a pool? Absolutely not. So I was going to say, I don't want to give away too much of the story, but did they just make it? They had a private play too? I was like, I don't want to correct y'all.

Yeah, they had something balling. It wasn't balling back then, but in my mind I was. I'm about to tell the truth. I need a free beat for this information. Okay. Nori wasn't feeling that he was in the movie. Now he hype. He going to the house. He's not saying that, though. He said he didn't know. He didn't understand. He said he didn't understand. Let me ask you, how did you do your voiceover? That's what I'm saying. He didn't understand that. He didn't understand that. He said he didn't understand that.

Let me ask you, how did you do your voiceover? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I got the call. What it was was he was calling Mr. Lee. We were supposed to do it for a while, but I was on the road and we was working. So I didn't have a chance to. So I think I made him wait like six months.

How long ago? Did you say how long? Because that's like two years ago. Two years ago. we was working so i didn't have a chance to so i think i made him wait like six months how long ago did you say how because that's like two years ago two years ago he was working on like four years ago and he didn't tell anybody i saw an interview that he did he didn't tell anybody that they were doing yeah yeah so it was funny um let me let me finish that and then i'll tell you um what teddy riley said but um so they did it over the phone i knew everything we do like together is somewhat special so i had ross come over ross came and we filmed it we did it over the phone. I knew everything we do together is somewhat special. So I had Roz come over. Roz came and we filmed it. We did it at Hazardous Sound Studio and we filmed it.

So everything I did in the movie, I actually have on film. And we sent to Pharrell. And I don't know if they use it or not, if they have it behind the scenes. But I didn't know. He did say something about animation. But if he would have said Lego, I would have been trying to overdo it. So I'm glad he didn't at the end end of the day you went on the music studio So they everything I'm saying in the movie is me answer when a question they just taking the questionnaire out with the

whole shit you that was it don't you think everything that you did how much you know I'm like three small scenes but like the one who's like no no how much of you recording I saw it. Ah like they probably use like just like five minutes of me, I believe We recorded out. Yeah, but they did like it was like five questions that I answered Okay, and then you know them showing me in in the pool like I didn't meet them show me in a private jet I was like

Me was the story with Pusha T. Yo, that part made me cry. When he was back in the streets, still slinging dope. Skip school and shit. Right, but then we... I don't want to tell the whole shit. I don't. But y'all were the one that called him and brought him back to life. Just off of GP.

But why did you mess with him? Okay, okay. You know, at the time... That's the only thing I was like, why is Malice not depicted? At the time, I think Malice wasn't messing with nothing. That's what I imagined. I believe Malice is in that story with Wizardy. I didn't see him as a Lego.

Yeah, because I think the actual movie at the time, remember he became mad religious. He really wasn't touching nothing. But ironically at that time, he did offer to do drink camps, which I was like, ooh. And I was like, how are we going to do this? He's like, you have to still smoke and still drink. And I was like, okay.

I was like, okay, maybe. to do this? He's like, you have to still smoke and still drink. And I was like, okay. I was like, okay, you know, maybe. But, yeah, it's a dope movie. I'm sure. That was at the premiere in New York. Teddy Riley was in front of me. And I asked Teddy to do drink chants. He was like, I don't drink. I was like, hey, man.

You don't got to drink to do drink chants, man. Although all these niggas is drinking. But you don't have to but um yeah and you know to connect with him and like to see the whole pharrell's movie come into fruition and his vision um that shit was dope man i really like you know respect i want to say thank you for real you know i'm saying because um you know he could have told his story without me it would have been fucked up but he could have told it without really Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're a true star. Yeah, man. We know from what y'all did earlier. Right, right.

That's why. That's the fact. Even though Janet's saying she had it. Yeah, Janet's saying she had it. They said I stole from Janet. Fleek told me. Fleek told me I stole from Janet when he came in here. That's the style.

You stole from Penny. You did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mark let Janet run it in by. You stole from Penny. Yo, you stole from Penny. You stole from Penny, dog. Yeah, or Penny stole from me.

You know what I mean? You never know. What was the name of the song again? I think it was Tough Love, I believe. Nah, nah. I like it rough. Yeah, it was called Tough Girl. I like it rough. I like it rusty.

I'm not sure when the timeline lines up with that. Right. Because, like, me personally, if that was true, like, if Janet had it first, I would have never gave me the beat. Maybe, did she turn it down? No, I think, yeah? I think she must have... I think that was a freestyle. And because

SBK pulled up where he plays Super Thug in her show, but she plays my version. SBK pulled it up. Yeah, so I don't know. I'll be honest with you. I like this rumor. I don't want to straighten this out. You know what I'm saying? I like this rumor It's a good situation. That's a good rumor.

That's what I call a good problem. And imagine me and Penny work right now. Imagine she come on Drink Champs to straighten it out. Yeah, we gotta keep it up. Let's go. I can't lie to you. One time we was making Grimey and we was in

I forget the studio in LA and Janet was so big that her security walked He was making grimy. He was making grimy. And we was in, I forget the studio, in L.A. And Janet was so big that her security walked into each studio and told everybody, you got to get out while the queen walks through. So we were like, I thought it was dope. Chris Lighty was like, fuck that. I ain't going nowhere. I was like, Chris, this is pretty from good times, my man.

Like, we got to go out. And I for sure went out. And then it was crazy because I don't know why they was there. But Ray J and Brandy was in my session. So, Ray J and Brandy walked out with me and then it made Chris Lighty go out. But we all had to go out until Janet Jackson walked in. I feel like they said, don't look at her. I'll tell you something.

Do that to us. I'll tell you something. What? Yeah, to PR. To PR? Yeah. No, that's crazy. No way. Now, you got to do that to R. Kelly. What? To P.I. To P.I.? Yeah. No way.

Now you gotta explain that. Please explain this. We was on a seven day tour with R. Kelly. And one of the reasons- This is after you can get used to me spending- This is after? No, before that. Okay.

It had to be before that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Before that. When he was coming through, the security came and said, yo, when Robert come through here, nobody can look at him. See, he says his government name. Right. Every Brooklyn nigga that was there was just grilling. Like, what the fuck going on?

What you talking about? What you talking about? Ice. What you talking about? What you mean we can't look at you? Who the fuck is you? We don't do respect, but what you mean? Come on, dog.

We can't look at you. Like, yo, when Robert comes here, we don't need nobody looking at him. Everybody needs to go away. Yeah. What? That's different. We can sit there at you like that. When Robert comes here, we don't need nobody looking at him. Everybody needs to go away. Yeah. What? That's different. We're set there on purpose now.

Like, we can work right here, right now. Yeah. I heard where it's like that. Like, certain people will tell you, you can't look at them direct in their eyes. Only Mike. No, there's a few others we know that did that. That's the one. That's the one.

Mike. Mike did that. I believe that's the only time. I believe that's the only time. Mike Carey's on that list. Wow. Like, did it happen to you personally?'s on that list. Wow. Did it happen to you personally? No, that's the rumor.

That's the rumor. I've heard about that a lot. Yo, Mariah Carey don't walk, yo. Yeah. She float, and she got people that carry her. I went to a show in Hawaii. The way he's saying it. I imagine it.

The way he's saying it. Yo, listen. Yo, listen. Mariah do not walk my G. I'm it does. Yo, listen. Yo, listen. Mariah do not walk my G. I'm telling you. Me and my wife was in Hawaii just, you know. Good loss. Nice loss. You know, we do this travel.

We see Mariah perform. I'm like, fuck it. Let's go to Mariah Carey's show. Yo, bro, on life, she didn't take one step on the stage. Every time she wanted to move, she had people come pick her up and move her to this side. I don't blame her. Was she pregnant at that time? No. Oh, word.

Maybe her shoes. Yeah, I can imagine that. You might not wear shoes. Shoes hurt your feet. I don't blame her. I can see that. She'd stand there, they'd come carry a couch, she'd sit on it, they'd lift the old couch with her and move it to the other side i'm like yo that's another one she that one that's how you keep the longevity that'sigon hold the blood in his mouth. Hey! He went too far. He went too far.

So, Cardin, being that you wrote, you were co-writer on Hot in Here, if that... What, Nelly joint? Yeah. Oh, shit. He got a Grammy. Man, Cardi was at the Grammy. He got a Grammy. Oh, my God. How you doing, bro? Talk about the love and hip-hop theme song. I know, yeah.

You didn't talk about that last time. No, yeah. Everything we didn't talk about, we're going to talk about now. But let me ask you. So if that's not for Oscar. Let's not talk about everything we didn't talk about. Do you win an Oscar, too, or how'd that work? Okay, wow.

Yo, bro, the engineer wins one, man. Oh, wow. If you're okay? Wow, you'll grow the engineer ones one You're part of that. That's it is monumental. Those are those awards. You mean I'm grabbing that you said Oscar No, no, they held in very high regard When you got the Grammy even the engineer How about the interns Might not get the physical one, but you definitely get certificate you get but you're part of you extra you extra history yeah want one God damn it Yeah But you know what Why do artists Want the Grammys

It's like a love-hate relationship With the Grammys With artists The Grammys shit it on me I loved them before But then They shit it on me And I hate them now

You know what I'm saying Yeah yeah yeah It's a stat It's a statue Yeah the status You had the statement Of just having one Fuck give me a BET award

I got And that award's dope. That award's dope. He spent money on Jason Lee. That's a great award. He spent money on his shit. And we got one more award. We got the one that Tito broke. Yo, look, this is how a true drink chance award. That's our first drink chance award. True drink chance fashion.

My boy in LA went to the award, got it, and broke it. In true drink chance fashion, we got nominated for, we was against, what? It was crazy actors. Ellen DeGeneres. It was great We're not going to this shit with Picking us over them and then we won so we sent our boy to the thing just because and he's Mexican and He lived like a Mexican and he drank the whole night. He celebrated for us. And then they gave us the award, and he went up there.

The movie award? It was best show of that year. It was like our second year doing drinks. He went to a club, I think. He had this joint. And then in the morning, he was like, sorry, guys. He sent us a picture of it in two pieces. And then he mailed it.

We used to have it on the table. We used to have it on the table. Two pieces? Yeah, two pieces. You. We used to have it on the table. We used to have it on the table. Two pieces? Yeah, two pieces. You know, we could have probably ordered another award. We should do that, bro. I don't even know what the award is. The people that did it.

Hey, man, we're going to figure it out, man. They got the award. I never won an award, but I talk shit on awards. Yeah, with whole letters. Fucking. We all talk shit. I think I've got a soul tree. Wait, wait.

I've got a soul tree. That's bad. Soul tree is dope. We all grew up. We all grew up. I think I got a soul friend. We all grew up. We all grew up. I think I got a soul friend. We all grew up. We all grew up. We all grew up.

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That's what bugged me out because, you know, people, we talked about it 20 times already. People still make their own assumption about it. So I love it. You know what I mean? To see what niggas say. Yeah, Bleak was talking the most. That's why he don't fuck with Bleak. Like, yeah.

He don't fuck with Bleak. That's cool. Let me ask you something. What did he say to y'all after the cameras cut off? He didn't say nothing. He didn't say nothing on cameras, neither. No, but it was before the camera cut. Because remember, he just got on stage with Michael Jackson. So he's saying, like, he was looking at us when Ralph McDaniel was standing there with the camera.

Right. And he asked a whole mad question. The whole thing said nothing. He just stared at his stare face. So I so I'm just like okay it's my turn tonight go fuck that we just went viral after that you think it's only me and Daniel talking right they say yeah the rock broke up. Right. Ain't OG1 back there? No. Who was back there?

Yo bro it was everybody. Think Clues, Skang, Bobby Dash, fucking we had the Rangers, Ja Rule, EVE, fucking X all of them rest in peace to X. The Rough Riders, D and Y all of them, Swizz. Yo bro I got a picture of all of us like bro is we was deep I was on a diet. I ain't been on a diet in a minute. I'm fucking up. That's why, dog.

You want to do the birthday? The birthday? The birthday. Oh, that's right. So we got another person in the building. It's his motherfucking birthday. We want him to come over here and have some drinks with us. Motherfuckers, scoop the bill.

Scoop Da Bill! Hey! Scoop, how you doing? Hey! What's up? What's up? You got Scoop? Happy birthday, brother! Happy birthday, brother!

How you doing? What's up? What's up, Jake Champs? Let's go, let's go. Tell the people some of the joints you produced. Alright, so I produced records for Snoop Dogg. I did that I Wanna Rock that Jay jumped on. I did some stuff for Kendrick Lamar. I did that Poetic Justice.

I did The Recipe on the Good Kid, Mad City album. And man, I've worked with a lot of great people. I've worked with 50. I've worked with Busta, Eminem, Dre, you know, Quick. Right now, yeah, we're celebrating a release that I just did with Damian Marley. I got his new single called Banner, which man is so special and meaningful to me because, you know, to align with an artist like that and really, you know, put something together that has a message and is powerful like that. It's why I do this, you know what I mean?

So it was great to collaborate with him. Yeah, we can't forget your legendary pops. Hey, yeah, my pops is a hip-hop pioneer too, man. Shout out to Kid Frost. Kid Frost, bro. Yeah, OG, OG. So that's why I'm here, man. I've floated in some incredible spaces with a lot of great people. I've been around the culture and seen a lot of amazing records get made and moments happen in time.

So, you know, I'm very blessed to be here doing this and continuing to stay afloat and do it authentically. So let me ask you a question. Let me get straight into it. Let's go. How do you feel about who should perform at the Super Bowl? Oh, man. I mean, you know, I haven't really thought about it, but I know there's room for many people to come out and perform, I feel like. Because, you know, it's a big show, so you got to bring in a lot of viewers and different people. So I imagine they're trying to link with youth and get more viewers to watch the show and be engaged with that overall. That was a great political answer.

I ain't mad at you. Drake definitely still wants some beats. overall that was a great political answer drake definitely still wants some beats you know what man it's cool man if people want to come rock with me i'll be more than happy to collaborate and build with them just from an artist level for them to tell their story give them the foundation to really do something that has meaning and message. And, you know, I've been around people that have been making music that lasts a lifetime. So for me to carry that torch, and that's what I'm here to do. You know, I want to make everlasting music. First of all, you've got a drink, right?

Yeah, I do. And didn't you do a joint with Fat Joe? I don't know what they handed me. Didn't you do a joint with Fat Joe? I did. I did. I actually did a joint with you, too, man. We got a record.

Was that with him? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, with the Flavor Flav. Yeah, man. I did I did I actually did a joint With you too man We got a record Yeah Yeah With the Flavor Flav Yeah man But yeah What's the name of the joint You did for Fat Joe It's called Slow Down Son

The ha ha joint With the Soul to Soul sample Ha ha Did you do that Yes I used to be Down in that beat All the time

Yo man Everybody in New York Really gave me A lot of support And Everybody was believing In me at that one. I'd be all the time. Yo, man, everybody in New York really gave me a lot of support, and everybody was believing in me at that time, so I was pushing three, four times harder with the sample ideas and really getting creative and flipping things differently or going right to the source and really just opening it up

to do something special. I didn't know I Wanna Rock was going to do that, but after I Wanna Rock happened... That's the dog. That was your first major, right? Like major major major I did some records previously with Snoop and this was like when I was about 18 17 when I first connected with Snoop and my father had Introduced me to him because they go back they have a history together with Snoop Dre easy You know, I mean, he was on records your brother. I mean, you're my father. Yes Yeah, yeah, he was.

Snoop wasn't on Ruthless. No, no, no. Ice Cube was. No, but just a part of the culture. You know, Snoop was also younger than my pops at that time. So, you know, they were around my father when he was doing shows or in sessions. They were songwriting together, you know, working on Murder Was the Case. I heard my father wrote lyrics for that for Snoop.

Wow, wow. Because they would all, you know, work in a room together and collaborate, and everybody would be throwing ideas off of each other. So that's how some of the greatest things were made. It was a collaboration. Everybody has something to contribute. You know what I mean? I'm going to go around the room and ask everybody,

how do they feel? Who should be performing at the Super Bowl? I just know I'm not getting caught up in the state stuff. I don't know how I have to think a little more about, yeah, I wouldn't get caught up in that. But out of those two? Right. Out of Wayne and Kendrick? Just in general?

Yeah, in general, yeah. A lot of people I would like to see before Wayne or Kendrick. Right. But I personally think Kendrick does deserve this moment. I think he deserves it. I think we all deserve it. We all agree. Right, right.

We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. We deserve it. We all agree. Right, right. We all agree. We all agree. When you come to Brooklyn, nah, they got it. I'm cool. Book the roots. I'm cool. To even be acknowledged and it for it is is dope The Super Bowl, yeah, I got a list of people I can But it is it to you is Kendrick deserve another yeah, definitely kids you guys slap some energy is dope

I'm just happy to see hip-hop and R&B no matter how you put how I feel That's right. That's right. Just to see us represented. That's good enough. See that, because we, the Super Bowl was real tragic when we was 13, 14, 15. Could have been nine in jail. Nobody would have said nothing.

You know what I'm saying? I wasn't fucking with the halftime show until Janet Titty came out. You took a break when you did that. This is all right. Halftime after that, you went to go smoking, go do shit.

Yeah, halftime, I just got ass with a guard. Now we stick around for that. Yeah. That's what to go smoking, go do shit. Yeah, half-time, I swear to God. Now we stick around for that. Yeah. That's an investment. Yeah. Do we got to give Hov some of the props for that? Because, like, we all just saying, like, you know, all of us,

even if you're not football fans, we watch the Super Bowl. I only watch the game before the half-time show. And the commercials, too. Yeah, the commercials. So we got to give Hovvis props for stepping up the football. I mean, when he came in, that's when we start seeing him. Yep. When he came in,

we start to see him. Yep. So no matter how you look at it, you know what I mean? How about you, Brad? I'm gonna keep it a buck. I think Kendrick deserved a shot, cuz he had a big ass year. He had the biggest year of the year. Right. So if you base it on most relevant and the most impact can't deny him a bad call but I would

say if there was a way to incorporate Wayne do that because Wayne never got a chance to do that it is it was the way it's not just not based on just the city alone but the fact that it is the city and he's little Wayne and he never had a chance to do that and it's probably his only chance that's gonna be in his city to do that it's never gonna this not going to happen again in his lifetime. Really, for real, bro. This is the third time in New Orleans. No, it could happen.

But what if Holt picks him next year? He might not be where he's at career-wise right now. He's still Wayne right now. Five years from now, he might not be where he at right now. I think it would be amazing if he brought him out on stage. Yeah, I think that would be cool. But can we deal with the actual fact that – The smoke.

The smoke. Like, by the way, the Super Bowl, too, is bigger than they smoke. Yeah, I agree with you. If there was something that took place behind the scenes, behind the scenes where he could bring out Drake and – No. That's – That's –

No. Yeah. That's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. The smoke. Nas couldn't bring me out to the Super Bowl. Come on.

But they squashed it. Come on. But they still squashed it. While it was beef. While it was beef. They ain't squashed nothing. So the beef is still hot. That song is still playing.

That song is still playing. Like, God bless. God bless. Because I know it could have got there but no one's really feeling like Kendrick and Drake Is gonna go to the streets with them I ain't got nothing to do with Kendrick, though. Yeah, but listen. I'm talking about this inside Canada. But that's like saying. Kendrick can't even get into Canada right now. So it could be him not playing. But here's the thing.

Your heart is here. Your heart is here. You got to keep it above. Come on, man. When a nigga shit on you and the public saying they shitted on you, that shit hurt, man. And you already a general, too. I know. Nigga, getting that 17 bleak distance, and I hear about them everywhere I went. Every week.

How'd you cope with it? I just turned shit off. Listen, I'm right here. He's a veteran over here. Right? But yeah, you just gotta get low. But that shit ain't, on bro Like they don't gotta Go to the streets

You still took a You dented that man's armor Right Bulletproof Right You dented it Unfortunately Unfortunately that's what it is

That's not happening That's not happening That's not happening I think as the time passes And they get older in life Maybe But right now Here's a question What if he get that awful Cause in life, maybe. But right now, no.

Here's a question. What if he get that offer? Because Kendrick is at the top right now. What if he get that offer? Who gets to bring them niggas out? No. Both of them out or one of them out? What if Kendrick? What's the offer?

What if Kendrick? You wear one of them out? No, no, no. What if Kendrick? No, no, no. What if Kendrick? Why are they going to offer? Yeah.

What if Kendrick made the offer and said, I can bring our niggas out? First of all, me as Juju Drake, you can't offer me nothing, sir. Check it out. You can't offer me nothing. I'm straight on all levels. Just for the record. So, you know, that's what I say later on in life right now. Let's get that theory out of it.

You can't throw the grenade and be like, yo, come on my side. Nah. Nah. Here's another question. It's going to take a moment to bounce back from that. What if you Kendrick and you invite Wayne to the shit and Wayne say yes? If you Drake, are you tight? See, here's the thing. I don't even think Wayne would even do it on the strength of Drake at this point.

Because that's his boy. You know what I'm saying? That's why it seems like that would happen. I don't even think that would happen just out of respect. We don't know. We don't know. But Wayne don't have nothing to do with it either. So at the same time, he could be the one

to mend the ship. Imagine that moment in time. That's an iconic moment. I didn't say tripping on the east, cuz. Y'all ain't got love for Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg. I'm afraid of him. I'm afraid of it. I'm afraid of it. You'll never know.

What if Ho presented it to them niggas? And it's not Kendrick. Ho already made his decision. Man, Greg, you going? You going forward. Ho already made his decision. Ho already made his decision.

He's going like, you know what? I'm out of here. Listen. No. If Wayne touched that stage with Kendrick, him and Drake would never be friends again. That's what I'm saying. That got to be worked out.

There is like, all right, so you're going to choose the Super Bowl over your dog? I don't give a fuck who was on that stage. I'm with the dogs. Yeah, that's a big thing. So you're saying, because we're still going around, you're saying Kendrick does deserve this hands down. Yeah, it's his moment. You know what I mean? It's his moment. But everybody talking about he deserve this hands down. Yeah, it's his moment. You know what I mean? It's his moment.

But everybody talking about he should bring Wayne out. No, he shouldn't. I ain't say that. It's his moment. If that ain't shut, it would be nice if he did it. It would be nice? It'd be nice. It's not impossible.

You can't. Like, gee, like. It's not impossible. I'm not saying the possibility. I'm saying it'd be nice. It's impossible. Bro, the times, man. You got to think about it, man.

Think of all the smoke in the city. Yo, it's no way. So you trying to tell me. He put it there. Nah. It's possible. It's impossible. I ain't doing that shit.

Nah, I'm with Bleak. I'm with Bleak. Yo, you think Jaru going to go to a fucking Tony Ayo show? Nah, but it's not a Tony Ayo show. Even if it's not the Wimbledon opening in Queens. Then Ja Rule be like, I don't give a fuck. Hell no. Reverse to the other way around.

He not going to go to that. It's not Wimbledon. I think the timing of this. And listen, they beef is real. And they beef is real. Let's not even get into that. I'll prove you what I'm talking about. Listen, Carmen sent an ice cube beef.

It's been deaded. But it took Farrakhan to dead that. I don't care. You ever seen them niggas at each other's show? You ever seen Carmen in an ice cube movie? And he got out? Yes, yes. Carmen's been in an ice cube movie.

He's in the movie. Shut you down. What movie? What I'm trying to say is, what's up? What's up? What's up? What's up?

What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What trying to say What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up?

What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? I was hopping over that shit. We got a fact check. But I know that he's definitely coming. I'm talking about a strip of loyalty. Wayne is never going to do that. Man, he's loyal to his team. YMCMB, you can't go against that. No, you can't.

Just for the look. I think I agree with Blake. I think what he's saying is true. I don't know. Listen, listen. You got to get it across the board then, man. We're not gonna lose these foundations. It's a lot to unpack. It's a lot to unpack.

That's all I'm saying. You're not gonna jeopardize the foundation of the family before luck. Huh? Because what if the powers that be? Nah, nah, nah. You too hypothetical. Who the powers? Nah, you too.

Who? Who the powers? Nah, listen. I think we underestimated the level of smoke. You're giving the powers too much power, listen. I think we underestimated the level of smoke. You're giving me the power to be too much power, man. I think we underestimated the level of smoke that is here. Before that, the biggest bull was Nas and Jay. But you can't even compare them two to each other. You know why I was thinking about that as we was talking?

Because listen. It's people with the J and 9. It's people that say J won. It's people that say 9 won. No, it's not 50-50. That's it. I'm sorry, buddy. That Queen's niggas get the hell out of here. That Queen's niggas get the hell out of here with that.

And you know it's niggas out here like, that shit 50 have it. We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it.

We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it.

We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it. We'll have it. I'm just saying. Remember what you were about to say. For this K-Box, how about you? How do you feel about Kendrick having that position? You know, I think because of the time and the way that he diabolically made Drake bow

down, and Drake's been winning for a long time. I feel sorry for him. I'm just talking about strategically how he came back, back to back. He tore his manhood apart. And then it was just like a crazy lyrical beef that happened. And then the They Not Like Us was the icing on top. Yeah, we underestimated that.

That's smoke. So I think it's Kendrick's time. It's Kendrick's time. And if he tells them, it's a week on Kendrick's side to even invite them. You just came to the gangster party. Everybody at the gangster party, you came and made the gangsters look corny. Then you go invite them you just came in the gangster party everybody at the gangster party you came and made the gangsters a corny then you go invite them to the party you corny now you know the promo

the promo for the super bowl that he did was also kind of like shots fired like a it's it was um this is because you don't care to be thinking in entendres entendres entendres detail detail he recreated General Patton from World War II doing a speech to the soldiers talking about invading and all this stuff. He recreated that. But he was like, he had the football machine. Yeah. He said it perfectly.

Because, you know, he's doing the whole thing against Canada. What's that? What's he saying? What I was saying is that, yo, bro, the beef is one-sided. It's not. Nobody talking about, yo, Drake won the beef. Everybody in the world. You know what I'm saying? At least with the Hovind nods, it was 50-50 people going back and forth.

It wasn't 50-50, but I know what you're saying. It was 50-50. Fuck that shit. Bro, they not like us. Stop the Tito's, man. Give me what you say, man. Yo, bro, what you say? Was it 50-50? Yeah, of course. It was 50-50. Who is 50-50? TakeOver was hard. Ether was hard. It wasn't about two seconds.

TakeOver was fire. TakeOver came out first before Ether. That was hard too. This is what? This is what? Ayo. Let me tell you. Y'all don't wanna bring this shit up.

No. I'm not gonna bring this shit up. I'm not gonna bring this shit up. I'm not gonna bring this shit up. I'm not gonna bring this shit up. I'm not gonna bring this shit up. I'm not gonna bring this shit up. I'm not gonna bring this shit up.

I'm not gonna bring this shit up. I'm not gonna bring this shit up. I'm not gonna bring this shit up. I'm not gonna bring this shit up. I'm not gonna bring this shit up. I'm not gonna bring this shit up. I'm not gonna bring this shit up. I'm not gonna bring this shit up. That was hard to That was hard too This is what? Let me tell you what Y'all don't wanna bring this shit up man I'm shopping Yo don't be

Yo listen, Nas on tour He can invite me now But nah, nah Y'all niggas not gonna do that. So this is what, when I asked y'all, when I asked, you see how the timing of it? My question to y'all is the timing of this, right? So you see how one song could come out, then the other song, that's why I asked if Takeover came out before Ether. So I wanna ask y'all at what point, cause for me, Drake was kinda winning the battle.

They not like us just They not like us. Just took a life into its own. I thought that was one of the battles. And Meet the Grams was the battle. Meet the Grams was the battle. Meet the Grams was crazy. Because Drizzy was snapping too. The idea behind Meet the Grams was crazy.

Drizzy was snapping too on these records. What did you say? What did you say? I said when Meet the Grams came out, I didn't have about a lambslot landslide I still thought it was a battle like fear okay the first time I heard I said this gonna shake something I know but Drake got some of the hardest what I'm saying yeah this records in battles yeah And they say he lost both. Because the W freestyle is crazy, too.

Yeah, yeah. That's a fact. Who is that against? Pusha T? Pusha T, yeah. Hey, yo, well, we got to give it up for Jersey for going to. It's really like 20 v. 1 out here. It's really like 20 v. 1 out here for Drake. That's what I was about to say.

We really got to salute him. And he takes all smokes. He takes all smokes. He's with the shits. When the all smoke. He's with the shits. When the loser draws, he's with the shits. Could it be true Kendrick got the trophy because of that? Let me ask you something.

J. Cole just released a freestyle. He released a freestyle addressing the situation. Heard about that. The situation of him stepping in that beat and then him stepping out. I love my brother. It's rock for life, but

nah, you can't do that. What, step in and step out? You can't, yeah. You can't say double dutch. Nah. Nah. Nah. Nah. He is in mode. He is in mode.

And this is what makes me so mad about the situation, because the nigga is fucking phenomenal. Nah, he's one of the best. Niggas really cannot fuck with that boy. Right. You know what I'm saying? He'll get busy. So you cannot, and you can't say, yo, I don't want to fight, but I ought to fuck the niggas

up tomorrow. Right. The next day be like, yeah, if I fought them, I ought to fuck them up. Right, right, right. He dropped something, though. He dropped a record. The Puerto Antonio. Yeah, but then he-

No, no, before that. Before that. But then he he stepped back after that. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. When he apologized on stage. But he did drop, he did, he stepped up, he did drop something. But he didn't commit. But you can.

He backed up. He didn't commit. So listen, can you swing? Can you swing one of these sometimes? Can you swing back? Sometimes you can think shit through. Sometimes you got less shit registered. Seriously.

If you miss maybe, y'all can think shit through. Sometimes you got less shit registered. If you miss, maybe. Y'all can talk about it. He talk about him swinging. Not if he was able to apologize. But on some MC shit, we know J. Cole is not ducking no face like that. He capable of getting crazy. Let me ask you something.

Let me ask everyone something. Why didn't Kendrick go back? Why did Kendrick respect his apology? Because his apology would go back for what? You like bullying after that. Make a battle now. Like Bleak said, you swung at me and you ain't connect.

It's alright for me to swing back. I ain't going back. He went. I ain't going to chase him He win. You're going to chase him. You consider him running? I'm glad. Not in that sense, but it's like a... It could have win. I think that's it.

I'm glad he did. At the end of the day, like I said, it's my bro, that's the fam. I'm glad he did and he left it alone. Put it that way, because it could've went ugly. So who do you think would've won in the K-Dot, K-Cole battle?

It's like Kanye say, we will never know. Guess we'll never know. Nah, I guess we'll never know. That nigga Cole is dead nice. All three of them are dead nice. All three of them, man. You can't battle now. I'm glad he bowed out, though.

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I respect it. I respect that. All the girls, you can do that. He's a bigger man. Look at him. I'm a bigger man. He's a bigger man. It's true. Come on, baby. Come on. Chill out.

The grown man in me that's married with children is like, I respect that. I respect that. If you don't touch right with your soul, but then,

in the battle rap with me, you know what I mean? He's like, nah, bro. You can't go back into anywhere. You know what I mean? He's in the zen mode, the space of his life. Ultimately, he's in the same space of his life. Ultimately, he's in a great space of his life.

But it's like, this is my life, your entertainment. This is entertainment for us. Ultimately, it's my life, your entertainment. This is entertainment for us. What other example do we have in great hip-hop battles that was going three ways? That would have been crazy. What about 50, Eminem, Dre? It was a whole not to never get the camera in person you're like Shannon Karras jayna's it have been a person history share the care rest a lot

of people forget who about poet and just ice hmm okay so it did trickle down to other day I mean that's it was a few that was like that talk about Freddie Fox he made a lot of my OG ever that I used to look up to be like damn son get busy and they could come outside the club They just put on them skates I think in hip-hop you can't duck no fade even if you want to I understand what beef does is fucking stressful nobody signs up because you want to be for everybody at one point you was out of control I felt like Grav had to rap about everybody. Speak about Grav. You were the angry rapper for a little minute. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

You had to beat everybody. I felt like Grav was no smoke. You know what I'm saying? That's right. He and me just had to rap about all of these motherfuckers, Grav. I wouldn't smoke with everybody. No smoke either. Real shit.

Can't do it. He ain't got no smoke. Even though being stressful, and it disrupts your peace. I know where J. Cole was ducking from, but you can can't And it's not just a project call anybody if you a top-tier Megan or your rat niggas shooting at you I love you saying I'm the best Bring the smoke bring the smoke and they can bring the smoke. You can't say I You almost will it to yourself Can't put yourself in the straw we gotta access

I've seen a picture with you and Lloyd Banks together. Yeah. That was recently after you came on Drink Champs, right? Yeah, that was mad recent. Okay, so what happened? Because you threw a lot of shots at Lloyd Banks at one point. You threw shots at people. You talked about the G in the story when you went up to the office.

How was this encounter with you and Lloyd Banks? Nah, it was mad peace. I fuck with Banks heavy, heavy. Do you have to air it up? Yeah, I do. Why you laughing? Why is everybody laughing? Why they laughing over there? Nah, I fuck with Banks. As a matter of fact...

You said that on the show too. I'm trying to create a record that's perfect for me and him right now. I think that was Shake Queens. You're going to talk about your problems? I don't know how I'm going to approach it yet. You should battle on the record. Nah, I don't want to battle. Oh, you don't want to battle. You don't want to battle. Yeah problems I wanted I wanted to be the queen okay

See ya was at the same place so Video shoot. Oh Energy was great. Like I don't want to battle with that man. No, I want to do some Queen shit for my butt I got the Queen's head on now You don't get nah shit though. Y'all ain't gonna stop. Y'all ain't gonna stop. We love Ho. We love Ho. He's tripping, man. We ain't even saying Nas.

That's one of those not 50-50. That's one of my favorite eras. That's one of my favorite eras in hip-hop was, and you know, it's not really

how they went about it. First of all, they was at the top. It was inevitable for them to crash heads at some point. It wasn't about how they went about the battle. It was about how they fixed the battle.

That's what makes it dope. You know what I'm saying? Like, the fact that they both are fucking businessmen, and neither one of them have to fucking rhyme right now. It's like, that shit is dope, you know what I mean, to me. So, like, I love that. That's the reason why I know I sound naive. I mean, one of the first times I had somebody laugh at me so hard on the show was I told Remy Ma, I was like, yo, I wish, and it is ironic

that I got a Terra Squad chain on today. I got the Lourdes Terra Squad chain in the business. Is this it? Well, I got a Terra Squad chain, right? Come on. So I asked Remy Ma, I told her, not asked her, I told her, I said, I still miss the original Terra Squad.

And she was like, the original members? And she was looking at me and I was like, yeah, cause you know, we didn't want to say a certain names or certain names. And I was like, the original members? And she was looking at me and I was like, yeah, because, you know, we didn't want to say certain names or certain names. And I was like, yes, I remember it. And I was like, I actually wish that they could squash it and get it together. When I tell you this woman laughed at me so hard,

I think I edited out the episode. Because she was just like, ha ha, oh my god. I could tell in her mind, she was like, what are you, dumb? Like, I could tell she was saying that to me. But I'm a naive thinker, you know what I'm saying? Like, I think eventually. You think culture shit, I get it.

Yeah, I think eventually Kendrick, Lamar, and Drake will squash it and make one of the biggest records of all time. They may not, though. You know why? Because they, it's too personal. I just told you Fuck around in that type of shit But let me ask you something. You got to mention our history too in hip-hop. What do you think? When shit goes crazy.

Big and Pac, it never went to violence. Do you think Big and Pac would eventually have squashed their beef? Yeah, I think so. Are any of those rumors true that they talked shortly before Pac passed? No, no. I don't know about that.

Because there's all these crazy things they all they actually spoke and they were trying to squash it i don't know about nothing with them talking verbatim to the to each other now right but it was other people around situations this is before phones and all that but people need to understand that you knew that had thousand certain places that could actually put certain people together And right right it could have been possible in a strip with one person That's how I was in them times Yeah, if you was a lot of motherfucker back in them days you had some power when people respected you

Would you land that would you from you mean like an OG step in here? Person could have been who you think that one person could have been That could have squashed it. I mean it could have been? Who do you think that one person could have been? That could have squashed it. It could have been a few. It could have been a few. It could have been people from there that we might not know about that had that type of power in LA. But there's a lot of people in New York that could have made that happen.

Chaz, the late great Chaz. Of course. Chaz and some of the other gangsters at that time and Tupac, they were starting almost like their own street coalition where they were unifying all the gangsters in the communities around the country. Because that's what Black Hands stood for, right? In jail, Black Hands was a gang. Tupac, Matuda, Chacal, all through the prison system in the streets, but they were going to unify all the street guys to police themselves, in so many words, around the country.

If that kind of order was brought to the streets, niggas would have been unified. I don't think the police or the feds are gonna allow that kind of power amongst blacks at all. They're gonna get this nigga up outta here. You know what I'm saying? So some unification was gonna come about with that type of shit.

They both was respected artists though. You know, back in them times, like, respected artists. He made it respected. I don't think it made it respected. He was respected. He was, for real. It was shit like, y'all was coming like,

nigga, fuck all that shit. Other people coming in starting to make you pick situations. It was hard for me to settle a situation when other people started to add on to it. You start to make it something, there's more people to talk to, there's more politics with it,

but you really from the street. Other people took it on Yeah, and it's spread right? Yeah, but that shit was real though So it's cool that we could talk about hip-hop beef in this kind of man the way we talk about you say you want everyone back in the days The person that lost the most in a hip-hop beef was We gotta identify that at the table, the person that lost the most in a hip-hop beef was... Right, right, really. So we gotta be understanding of that, you know what I'm saying?

I wanna know how much part of the movie, like, towards the end, it was like y'all was getting threats and shit. Is that real? At the same time that he passed? Word. In L.A.? In real time? Word. In real time. You'd be in clubs.

You'd be walking around. Nigga ride past in the car. Yeah, Westside. You'd be in the mall.'d be walking around, nigga ride past in the car, yell Westside, you'd be in the mall. You're talking about at the time. So it was like the whole gang culture was against, I remember, God bless me, I remember after Biggie died, whether you wanted to or not, if you went to LA,

your record label hired security for you, no matter what. And it was like smoke at that time. All of of us was like for lack of a better term I don't want to say scared but definitely nervous you know what I mean definitely nervous because we just felt like it was a war against all of us and me I actually made a record So I'm like on red alert I'm on orange alert You know what I'm saying You chose though You chose your side Right in there I remember going

Yo Big was so smarter Than all of us I remember I remember going And Seas was right next to Big And cause I ain't gonna lie For Big being the king of New York

And the tunnel being The roughest club in America Not tunnel being the roughest club in America. Not New York. The roughest club in America. And it would just be Big and C's. And I'm like, this nigga didn't even need security. That's how much New York loved him. And I came to him.

I was like, yo, we went back. We went back at him. And he was like, huh? And he was like, you know, LA, LA didn't come out yet. Because it was for a bad boy mixtape where stretch armstrong was was hosting and big was like nah little homie he's like yo because you know what they're accusing me of i didn't do and i didn't understand like how intelligent he was at the time like like he knew this response to him co-signing that will will

help engage into uh into the war but let me switch it up escalate let me switch it up at one point uh tupac switched his energy and he was somewhat coming at jay-z for some time how did how did how did how was that what he was of course i'm gonna tell y'all about this shit right. And he said more people in the same shit. This was on the Machiavelli album. This was on the Machiavelli album. Fuck Jay-Z for the Hawaii Sophie fame.

This was all on the Machiavelli album when the smoke with them was going on. Yo bro, on guard, leaving the strip club, Coco's in Miami. Oh. Everybody used to sell a bootleg tape out there. He was a bootlegger. This was before the Machiavelli album even dropped. Nigga had it. So I'm like, ooh, let me get it, because I want to hear it. You know what I mean?

Get in the van. So remember, this is when Jay was riding in the turtle top. So you don't know what you're about to hear? No. Nah, stop. I never heard this story. I put the tape in, right? So it's just the bootleg from

yeah coco's you saying oh by the way behind the bootlegs so i get in the turtle top you know what i mean i put the tape. So I get in the turtletop, you know what I mean? I put the tape in, and that shit get to the part. Yeah, fuck Jay-Z too. From Hawaii and Tokyo, man. I think Jay said, what he said? What? Nah. Wait, you didn't say that before.

Oh. A real home. Yeah. So I'm like, yo, I just got the Tupac album. Let's bump the shit. C-Wave talking about Brooklyn. C-Wave talking about New York. I don't want to hear how hard they was going.

And at this time, he did not go at Jay. It was only on the Machiavelli tape. It was only on the Machiavelli tape. So I put it in, and that nigga hole was back there steaming. Like, throw that shit off. Did y'all, like, throw the tape off the floor? No, no, no, no, no. We listened to it.

We listened to it all night. That's weird. We listened to it. That's weird. That's weird. That's dope. I feel the tape up to Jay did a freestyle Hail Mary joint no not all Hail Mary is on the Tracy Lee joint Tracy Lee he performed it one time at the Apollo but god bless pop died and Jane ever put the record I wanted or I wanted this to come out yeah I ain't gonna front I was so sick when it wouldn't it when the when the beat was going on seasonal he's my niggas and they had the outlaws and it was like oh I can't get in this I wanted the wreck and big don't want nobody to say nothing. Yeah, that was it. What was Big's strategy?

Big's strategy was chill. Yup. That's it. He didn't want no beef. He was responsible for anything. It was friends that started it. Big was on some, you know, just, I'm bro, I'm chillin'. But Big liked Chap every now and then.

He was, okay, I hear you. Right. Because that was the competitive spirit in Big's shit, but Big knew that shit could've got out of hand. We were just very connected with a lot of, there was just a lot of people around that was really solid people That was in the streets. This is not we're not talking about You was riding around with your real Ass out of it We know that man That's already been done People know that record Was done before And the DJs all know that We had that record

Months before You know what it is It just still sounds like it It's like even though You can tell The timing I mean The timing

It was the timing Definitely I'm not talking about People who ask Of the know I'm talking about People who Listen to it now

Who's just like When they hear it It just It can't be about Nobody else Yeah I can't convince them that it's not about Pac. Yeah, I can't convince them. The name of the record, the subject of the record.

It's psychological. And Big never addressed it except for one time. That verse was already done. What's that one time? That same line he said in the beginning, who shot you? Before Pac got shot, that shit was already recorded for Mary J. Albee. Wow. Them lines, that first fucking verse was already there.

We had that for months. The one time Big addressed her a little bit. He said, if Faith had twins, she probably had two Pops. Yes, that was it. That was on the Brooklyn Finest record. That was on the Brooklyn Finest record. That was on the Brooklyn Finest record. At what time is the beef cooking at this point?

Where is that at? I'm. That was on Brooklyn Finest. At what time is the beef cooking at this point? Where is that at? I'm sure it's on steam. All right. See, I'm digging in the crates right now. So for those people that don't know, who's the record about? Who's Shasha? Shasha? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Who is that record about? It's about Yoba. It was just a record. See, that's why people believe that it's not about pop. Yeah. Because it's like, that was a very passionate record. It sounds personal. It's the timing.

It's the timing. I get it. But who is it about then? It's the timing. Every rapper said they was number one at that time. That's why they took it seriously. Every rapper rapped like they was that number back then. Nobody took it, but it was a battle record.

Everything comes from somewhere. Yeah. It was for somebody. It might not have been for pop, though. It had all the people on it. Okay. somewhere, yeah. It was for somebody. It might not have been for Pac, though. It had all the people on it. Okay. Yeah, man. Yeah, this time is crazy, bro.

You got to tell them the Michael Jackson story before it's over. We can keep going, but you got to B.I.G. Michael Jackson story. We like Michael Jackson. B.I.G. and Michael Jackson? I'm putting it in. We was on what was this Clubhouse somewhere. I always tell this nigga to tell his story.

Please tell his story. Please tell his story. What happened? Please tell his story. Please tell his story. Please tell his story. Please tell his story. Now you gotta tell his story. Now you gotta tell his story. Now you gotta tell his story. I gotta tell it because I think it's that serious.

Yeah, you gotta tell it. When Big did the song with Mike, before I say anything, Big was joking about this situation. Right. Right. He was going to record his verse for the Michael Jackson song. And it was a bunch of us, a few of us,

you know, me, Rob, probably a few heads, you know, like the goons, and Big was going to do business. He got a good check.

He was like, yo, listen, I'm going to go in here and lay my verse down real quick with Mike. Everybody can sit in here and just chill.

I ain't bringing a bunch of niggas in there. And then big said yeah, you definitely can't come trust him with the kids You did to me. You know, I was the youngest. You all know this. It's more to the story. I like how you brought this up. I don't want you to think it's that serious. It's a funny conversation. I wanted to, dog, I'm a little kid. I wanted to meet Mike. That's right. Yo, he's a name.

Yo, come on, y'all. But he was just joking, you're saying. Yeah. I ain't going there. Oh, you weren't joking. Oh, shit. He wasn't joking at all. I still ain't make it.

I didn't get to go meet Mike, so I'm outside. So it's this big window right there. You know how the studios run back there, where you can see through the room? So I sit there. I see him go get Mike, and I'm in the joint like, yo. That's crazy. Bro, you ain't let me really cut.

Like, yeah, really? Wow. Yo, now that you're here, wait. I can tell you on some G-Shit, I used to tell Ho, yo, don't shout me out like Big shout C's out, man. Don't do that. He put a lot of pressure on you? C's got the most fire-est

shout outs ever from BIC's. What? What? What? What? He got a code that made me look at home like you better not ever, don't do me like that. Why though? Why?

If he would've said bleak no, all his homes go to my dog. nah, don't do me like that. Why, though, why? You didn't know, if he would've said bleak, no, all his homes go to my dog. No, no, no, no. No they don't. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, damn, see, that's some bullshit. My man violated me. I didn't even say a thing. Damn, man, that little bro shit is hard. He might have had more shit. I'm like, that ain't happening to me. What? No? And he's like, I used to be as strong as Ribblebee to Little C's cripple me.

You mean, Ribblebee? Yo. I ain't driving. I mean, these was real life. No, that was after the party. Yeah, but how was you the youngest thing to drive? But you know what? I couldn't even come back if I wanted to.

I wanted a rider. He know your mama. I want to sit there. Help me. Help me. This is me. I ain't right. Yo, answer me back.

How can I help you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You going to write my my dog dirty, man. But it was a bro shit. That's what really happened. It was real life shit. I was the only young in the round that could really control the situation. I was 13.

That's crazy. I got the key. I got the coming through. He literally would wait for me to do something. Yeah. Now I'm not performing until my little bro here. Wow. I don't give a fuck who, who, who. Yo, you ready boy? Playboy, you ready? Be out like nah, nigga, until my little nigga get here. I'm not stepping on that stage until he here.

Come on. Yo, I look at all that Apollo footage. Yeah, man. People and shit. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? All that Apollo footage. These n You know what I'm saying? All that Apollo footage. These niggas at the Apollo. I remember that Apollo show.

It was crazy. It was crazy. That ain't going nowhere. Wow. What's the other spot where they got the, where Big got on the pink? Incredible. So you was 13? My bad.

Hold on. There was nobody my age around. I'm with a bunch of grownups. So there's nobody. I used to go to big shows. There used to be nothing but bitches around. So yeah. So I'm 18 a bunch of grown-ups 1819 I'm learning how to adapt in the environment of 1918. Right? He was finger popping. Oh my god Yeah, two niggas boom I used to sit on the sideline and be like, we're tied, get off. Because y'all niggas was outside early. Yeah, I was outside early. I used to have to go to Manhattan, Queens,

left back to see you. And you go to Brooklyn. He in Marcy, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He on the other side. He in the projects. He's got a bunch of Benz's and Land Cruisers parked on the other side.

Like, hold on, hold on. What are they doing in my project? Hold on, let me ask you something. He was right there, project hold on let me let me ask you something like yeah but let me ask you something how about how about the best style aquarium your bed style aquarium yeah you see the best style aquarium with the little fishes yeah you see that you ain't see that you see that But it's how you know book of niggas is still foul. Yeah. Somebody violated it.

Whoosh. Drove a car straight through it. Damn. But this is how you know. But there's also Brooklyn niggas with heart. Niggas was out there catching the little fishes. Yo, chill. Yeah.

Catching the little fishes. Well, you know what? That's it. That's it. We don't do that. We don't catch fishes. I ain't see it. Yeah. No, it's kind of that. It's kind of fly.

Kiss when they go see it. Kiss when they go see it. God damn it. You Jays pro to J. You big pro to J. Sitting between is energy. That's dope. You my pro to J, nigga. Let's think about it. Nah, I'm talking to you.

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I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna I didn't take that ban. A ban ain't shit. Man, imagine I was like, yeah, I'm gonna take that ban. This is a true story? Nah.

It's just a metaphor in life. You take the jewels or you want the money. The fast money. But Jay said, take the money. I'm giving you the game Oh Yo reasonable doubt niggas slept on reason we don't want a reason who diamonds I was broke I think is it was His skill level But I think I think I think it was really No, P I used to be I yeah yeah yeah i love that b i did it james is yeah yeah yeah yeah don't know how much

big biggie with hoes how much big inspired hoes big we used to study these man big with the whole listen and be like nah how he doing you know i gotta kill him people don't know that though man big big will say nah this better than me sometimes like you know i'm saying yo he got me on this like yeah you know what i'm saying we were supposed to have the commission the commission i just was thinking about that if that would have transpired for real. But what was the commission? It was just Big and Jay? No, it was more than that, wasn't it?

It was me, Charlie, Big, and Jay. And Unn was like the person that was Uncle Paulie. That was going to be it. And wasn't Charlie Boston? No, you said Charlie. Yeah, so in what's beef, he stayed the whole commission. And that was going to be a project, right? Iceberg Slim was old. He was going to be crazy.

That would have been crazy, man. You know, victory, he said, in the commission. Yeah. In the commission, they hit him. All right, let me ask you. Let me ask you. Give me a while, Mikey. I see recently.

I see recently. And I'm going to ask both of y'all. I see recently that they said in the commission that Jay was going under Iceberg Slim because he was trying to leave Rockefeller back then. Is that? Oh, they didn't say Rockefeller. They said he was trying to leave Dame. He didn't even want to rap. Jay wanted to retire.

He only wanted to retire because he was what? 15? Yeah, he only wanted to drop one album and leave the game. That was his whole vision was I'm dropping one album and I'm done But then the success went so crazy that it turned into a whole career, but that was his vision was I'm done So he was done before we thought it's reasonable. That was that was gonna be it. We so glad that didn't happen That was his hustler mentality though the rapper Jay rapper, Jay-Z was the blueprint to a lot of shit. Like, let's say like me as a creator, right?

If I got an idea to do an accent or some type of difference on the record, I'd be like, I don't know if I can do this. Now, Hov would do it. I'd be like, okay, it's okay. Hov was the blueprint to so much shit for a nigga like me coming up, learning how to rap. He did it first, and it's like, oh, it's okay to do this. I mean, he's learning how to put shit together.

Hov was the blueprint for a lot of niggas bro yo his power his power on culture is crazy but since before he was even whole right now it's just the four guys like this niggas wearing a hat like this nigga made you put on a jersey take off the jersey put on the button up take off the button niggas didn't know how what the 4.0 4.6 cost They ain't give a fuck Bitch can be walking You want a 4.0 Nigga beat it Bitch you went to the bus

You went to the bus I mean even just The way of thinking I didn't know what Reasonable doubt meant The phrase meant Right When I was a kid

I didn't know what that meant In the court of law If there's a reasonable doubt You beating that case You gotta The way that you gotta Imply something I don't understand what that meant So even reasonable doubt being the name of his

album so you gotta think about how they how they function yes and they was young too it was a different time i can't think was a different era. Different time, man. I can't think about it. I can't get to be kids longer now. My son 22 and I still look at him like he a kid. At 22, I already bought my third house. You know what I mean? It's kind of the way it's supposed to be.

That's the luxury. It's a different era. Like, at 16, I was driving around and doing shit already. Like, you know what I mean? Come on, you know. You know like what Fox said. Turn him up, Fox. Turn him up.

Fox, turn him up. Turn him up. You had no choice either. Word up. Ain't no iPads. There's no laptops. You had to be outside. You had a big world outside.

For good or for bad. There was good, broken, calm on both of us. There wasn't much going on outside. You had to be outside. The hustlers was niggas role models. It's like we grew up with dads. I don't know if you grew up with your dad in the house, but I grew up with the hustlers. I don't know.

You don't even know who the fuck my pops is. Fuck that. You mind if I ask you a question for you guys? Let's go. Please. Let's go. There's a lot of hip hop history at this table, so thank you for having me. Come on.

Please. Absolutely. Take control. Take control. Let's go. Can I do a round two in a moment? I need to know, when did you guys fall in love with hip-hop? When you knew that it was either sink or swim, like you had to do this. Can I go first?

I don't know if it was sink or swim, but I wish I, I mean, I always said this, but I wish I would have given this guy his flowers on this show, but it was Granddaddy IU, and when I first heard, he said, I knew a girl named Kenya from West Virginia, and boy would I like to stick something in her. And I said,

I don't know what the fuck he just did, but I want to do that. I want to put syllables together and words together like that and although I've never rhymed like granddaddy you because back then to rhyme like a person that you look up to was so corny so I developed my own style but boy that was the first time I fell in love with hip-hop and I wanted to be like him so bad he was and he was the first person with a smooth operator like and yeah, I wasn't smooth at all Well, I'll say that my first

Love hip-hop was when I heard L-matic And I was too young to understand that keep it on him when I first first heard L-matic I didn't get it I thought it was whack and I was too young to get it and then when I kept playing out a little older this shit is Amazing. Mm-hmm, and I really got into it. That's why I really fell in love with it But I want to throw this little jewel out too when I made the joint with us Mm-hmm in the beginning I say I'm the king of New York. I'm channeling a whole nigga. I'm rapping like hold on that record I don't really know that I'm talking about

I'm thinking like Jay-z when I'm making this record. I'm rapping like ho over my brain. They're good. That's I gotta say that real quick I got my shit that real quick. I got that. My shit is different. When you first fell in love with hip hop? Yeah. It's dying. That was the question, right?

K-pop? Yes, yes, yes. Or just you knew that you had to do it. Like you breathe it, you live it, you eat it. Listen, just watching my brother play all the music he played and then you know... Your brother meaning Hov or your other brother? No, no, my brother Dre. other brother drain my blood, okay, okay Like you know you listen to everybody your older brother. Yeah, I'm the Urami came out that she oh no no no

He just used to play raps in the crib public enemy like African bad body all that I remember being young be like who fuck is easy to talk about the red the black They look great. Sissy. As a kid to me, it was like, this shit is no fun. I don't know. Are they trying to recruit me? Like, what are they doing over here? But then, it wasn't until I saw niggas that looked like me.

Like, ABC, Criss Cross. And then I'm like, wait a minute, these young niggas, they ain't outside like me, though. I'm pushing packs. You had your clothes on backwards? Never.

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That's what made me say, oh shit, I could do that. You know what I mean? Like, definitely, I got to give it up to Jermaine Dupri. Because if it wasn't for him, you know, pushing Criss Cross, Da Brat. You know, that's what made everybody else sign all the other groups like that. You know what I mean? For me, I'm going to go. I'm going to sit here thinking while you're talking.

I got to go with LL Cool J. That's when you fell in love with hip hop? Fell in love. You remember the song or was it out? It could have been I'm Back. No, I don't quite like this way. When I saw LL, I said, holy shit. Because you like him?

I rock. No, no. I love him. shit you like I ride no no no no no queens not my god go status he's yeah so no but we don't see come from us nobody can be ghosted as my first run of love with him don't know he was already ghosted no no this whole that's

just I'm just wanna okay brother the whole shit shit this whole go go go how everybody throws around go go go that comes from l.l. right so spend a block right so for me l.l. cool jay yeah whenever whatever whatever point could have been i need love could have been my radio and i'm not i'm still young so yeah but that's that impact let me know how it around I was like damn this nigga LL Cool J like yo I can see that no light skin shit but yo LL is one of the goats bro he's probably like you know my top five for sure run DMC KRS-One you know I mean I grew up listening to a lot of

great MCs and people that stood for movement so you know, I mean, I grew up listening to a lot of great MCs and people that stood for movement. So, you know, for me, I mean, I really appreciate that. And seeing those cultures happen with fashion and all of that. Like, man, there's a lot of special things that happen in our culture, man, that are still here today. And if it wasn't for that, we wouldn't have a lot of things that are popping right now. You wouldn't be a Lego. You know what I mean? You walked around with the african piece

yeah the african peace with the jamaican belt with the jamaican but they have it i don't think they had the Puerto Rican people yeah i don't think they had that one it wasn't lit like that yeah we were probably represented with those pieces still because for the culture regardless that was a movement talk about being a kid like yeah Stepping in yeah, 31 stop coming to my when you first Yeah, music, yeah. Like video music, bop bop bop. I remember when he said Empire, Rose, he was talking about hip hop, right? Yeah, hip hop. I was talking about hip hop.

No, she said it first for the love of hip hop. Yeah, just hearing it. Just hearing it, yo. Yeah. Nine years old, your brother coming home from school, coming home from work. He said, he had this back wound over the box, 16 batteries. Word up. Man, he playing shit.

You just hand a little bit of everything. You just hand a bunch of of everything. You just hand... Even the old samples in the records too. Before tape decks and shit, you really just listen to the radio. You had to record from the radio. I remember a lot of people... Everybody said when they fell in love, right? Everybody first.

Ladies first. Oh yeah, that's right. You already said it. You asked the question. I got four older brothers, and they're all DJs, but I know. You was destined for this life. God made sure you were going to be in this life. I think it was when he was a donor. Eric was the president? Yeah, I thought I was a donor.

She tried to play me. I was like, what the fuck? And just that beat when it came on. It was hypnotizing. Yeah, it was hypnotizing. And since then, I was stuck. I couldn't get out of it. That's it.

Certain artists hit me like that, like Gran Puba. I used to... I was like my guy right there. You know, I used to dance and look around my place. I used to have the Jansport book bag, Tommy Hilfiger. I was my first punchline artist. I used to step to the Gran Puba every day. Step to the Gran Puba.

Gran Puba's on the rock. I remember the gals saying, it's all called the power. Running around for the belt. Running around for the box. He had a flow, too. He had a flow, too. He had a flow, too. He had a flow, too. He had a flow, too. He had a flow, too. He had a flow, too. He had a flow, too. Every day He had kids come in from the 50 Seconds G Project and we sang a hook.

Anyway. I think I'm the oldest one at the table I think so By a couple years from you So when you're growing up in the 80s You hip hop Before even knowing you hip hop We break dancing We're doing the meetings

It's layered It's like going to the skate park. Before I know it, I'm falling in love with hip hop. I'm in hip hop. It's layered, for sure. So you just live in it, right? Yeah. I'm a skater, but I got a boombox, I'm doing graffiti, I'm doing breakdance, I'm doing all that.

But the music, because before that it was just rap music and you're doing all this other shit. But when it hit you to let your head go, you could do it. But when it hit me, it's two groups that hit me that i was like yo this is incredible and it was nwa and public enemy which songs right it was not it was just the groups that was to me the first time that i heard an emotion in the music of rap music that was like transcending i was like yo this is crazy they're making me mad scared worried like everything they always say public enemy got some of In the videos, they got some of the hardest content.

Yeah. And Flavor Flav was a fucking legend. Yeah. Yeah. Shut the Flavor Flav. Yeah. Now, one is a joke of my time. I'm sorry.

Shut the Flavor Flav. No, I'm not. It was a joke. Shut the Flavor Flav. I was in the Olympics. But Flav was in the Olympics. Flav was in the Olympics, too. Yeah.

Yeah. Flav was there. Yeah. So I'm going to ask you all a question. Anybody want to back clock? I'm going to ask a couple of all the other questions you can answer it whichever way I want greatest That's a good question. I can't say who's the greatest, but I know that me and my hype man, my nigga Max Wayne, we modeled ourselves after Boston and Spliff, so I'm going to give him a split. We didn't say Spliff Star. We said Spliff Star.

We didn't even bring everybody up yet. There's one person I... He was really part of the group. He wasn't really a hype man, but he did rap a lot. R.I.P. Freaky Todd. Oh yeah! That's a big one. That's a big one. He's actually part of the group.

He's actually part of the group. He is a hype man. We can count on him. I He saw I guess kind of anybody's nobody won't just smoke him in smoke These like man, I feel like he was one of the illest The boys have been in the boy. No, no, no, no that he had had a specific guy There was his nightmare like his brother right wasn't his brother But I don't remember the do they ain't no for a heavy D is an honorable mention for for that hip But I hip hop they have his belt that flow he was He made the fat man fly They went to a and s Yo, chill. No, the fat boys actually did. The fat boys are still here. No, they didn't. No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying it. I said fly.

They were still flying for that era? They were still flying. No, no. And they actually did go to Dapper Day. No, they were. Yeah, but they was on commercial time. They was on commercial time. That's right.

Yeah, I give them. They was on commercial time. Yeah. I saw this all the time. I saw this all the time. Yeah. It was the first time. Yes. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time. It was the first time I was doing movies. We know you guys.

Sit down. Sit down. We're getting super delayed. Super delayed. Freaky Todd really like those songs. Freaky Todd, man. I didn't know that. I don't think there's nobody like that. Fre they, you know, I was thinking dog pound too. You know, have they, you know, have they, you know, have they, you know, have they, you know, have they, you know,

have they, you know, have they, you know, have they, you know, have they, you know, have they, you know, have they, you know, have they, you know, have they, you know, have they, you know, have they, you know, have they, you know, have they, you know, have they, you know, have they, you know, have they, you know, have they, you know,

have they, you know, have they, you know, have they, you know, have they, you know, man because he was an equal mc right he did don't because he became an mc after that no he was always an mc oh really okay okay the dope hype man i was thinking dog pound too you know they they did a lot of great hype for snoop oh that's right dog pounders technically i ain't gonna lie them boys is the reason them boys connection with it. Yo, that dog food album. Dog food album? What? That dog food album? Stranded on death row, my nigga, and her corrupt, dazzling,

rage. Rage is hell. Listen, changed the whole game. Went home, tore my whole rap book up. What the fuck? I'm completely wrong about the wrong shit.

Snoop's out. Snoop's out. Snoop's verse on, which verse are we doing? Still Dre. On the Chronic album? Still Dre? Is that Still Dre?

Chronic 2001. Dr. Dre, the D-R-E. Yeah, still D-R-E, okay. But I'm talking about Dazz and Corrupt. Yeah, Still Dre? On the Chronic album? Still Dre? Is that still Dre? Chronic 2001. Dr. Dre, the DRE. Yeah, still DRE, okay. But I'm talking about Daz and Corrupt. Yeah. That's before the age.

Nah, nah. They changed the game. They changed the game. I didn't know that. And Red is from Philly, right? And I ain't gonna lie, Corrupt went on the West and became like the first West lyrical nigga but really was from the East. Yeah.

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You know what I'm saying? It's one artist. But it's one group. It's one thing. But Google made the first rap double album. Google and it proved it. Woo got the first album as that win. Yo, RZA's super million. RZA's my favorite nigga.

RZA's genius, man. That's why I said we all great. We comparing ourselves to ourselves. That's fire. Let's give it up for that. Everybody. Riz is a genius, man. That's why I said we all great. Like, we comparing ourselves to ourselves. That's fire. Let's give it up for that. Everybody. Yeah, let's give it up for that. Yo, everybody inspired off everybody, man. Cause I never forget seeing the Wu the first

time, man. Bunch of niggas in hoodies in the lobby of the project building. Looking like us in the project. Like, hold on. Hold on. Whoa. We could. They letting us in? Right. Like, you we could they let us in right like no Inspired all the hood niggas man Jeff Fresh Prince, that's Jeff wasn't a hype man. Don't use a DJ They won the first double album. What's the name of the album? It's called Double Album. It ain't called Double Album.

You gotta see how it changed. Double Album. They the first to win the Grammy. They the first to win the Grammy. Were they the first to win the double album? No, no, no. That's false. 88. 88?

Make sure they say double that's the minute you're back on real you right that's real me Korean it's not playing you look like you're having a hard time with your goons master P was the first rapper to release a double CD with his 1995 compilation Down South Hustlers Ghetto Nigga some what's the sergeant weed and liquor left the money and bitches you ever the weed and liquor He had this. Oh, we figured it out. What? It was Master P. Master P, yeah. Oh, the first song. Oh, the first song. Oh, I knew it. The hip hop.

You ain't say that. I've never heard it before. I said that before Tupac. You wanna know the name of it? No, not Tupac, because remember, they, they, Mr. Lee just said, Press Prince. Yo, crazy. I don't, man, this is, you don't know shit. I know.

He got, he got, he got. Yo, Mr. Lee. He got Google, like Google. He don't pay. You gotta ask him what artist in Dominican Republic. Yeah. Yeah. Brother Tupac. don't ask him what artist in Dominican Republic. Well, the record is Down South Hustlers. Down South Hustlers.

Well, I mean, that's very specific. We agree on this. Look how South figures like to claim that. He didn't really revolutionize that. He didn't really revolutionize that. He didn't really revolutionize that. He didn't really revolutionize that. He didn't really revolutionize that. He didn't really revolutionize that.

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Maccabelli was a single album. Maccabelli was a double album. All Eyes On Me. All Eyes On Me. Yeah. All Eyes On Me is a double album. We call this, just so everybody knows, when we fuck up like this, we call it drunk facts. Yeah, drunk facts.

Yeah. Drunk facts. Meaning, we mean well, but we fucking up. We have good intentions. We mean well. we have not we have we have good intentions we mean well we have good intentions we got good intentions yeah we usually have the facts google the sounds that work for fema and we have good intentions a disaster so one of them is really out there with fema right now he really out there with fema our producer, I respect that.

I ain't gonna lie. That's why we're stuck with Mr. Lee. That's right. That's right. I got a question. Damn. All right, so is that your chick, right? So is this really subliminal?

Because you know it's... Nah, I know. Shorty said we wrote that about her or something. Somebody said we wrote that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. At least not my verse. No, no.

I don't know about the big homies. You got it? I don't know what y'all talking about. Come on, be clear. How about the song? Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about come on we clear the song yeah no somebody said is that your chick was written about them we thought it was about like a girl's question. That's a girl's question. We ain't doing that. We got kids and people who live they life. For the record, yeah. We know. We know. It was about somebody, but we can't tell.

No, I really wasn't. That was true. Only for me, I really wanted to know that. But it wasn't. Because you know it's mass speculation. My verse was about... My verse, when I got the song, Is That Your Chick, remember, Jay released Is That Your Chick. That was a layup record for me.

Was like, yo, you lied. Right. Because it came out on his album, only released overseas on Volume 1. So it only was on the album overseas. How would we know that? It was overseas. So come on, man. Who lagged, my G? So listen, when he wanted to release a song over here, he cut and re-released it.

So he gave me the beat. Yo, Bleak, I got the hook and the beat. Just write two verses for this, and I'm going to use the verses I already got on it, and we're going to shoot a video. So I'm like, great. For me, thank you. So when I went to the crib and I'm listening to it, is that your chick? Number one thing come up is, come on, man.

These niggas out here handcuffing. You got to be shitting me. You know what I mean? So it was just about shit like that. It's like, how could you? How big. Missy was it was just about shit like that it's like how could you how big missy was on that that was a good song and and i'm back to his point niggas say he was in the studio with mike and never met mike i shot a video with missy and never met her to this day that's crazy see what y'all worked together but didn't work together is that the song is that the song is that, see? She shot the video, but she shot her shit some separate.

No, she was in L.A. But I was too late at this time, see? So she was late. So by the time she came, I was already back in the club in L.A. Chilling. So when she shot her part, I was gone. And then when we did the shows, you know, you come on stage, you say hi, whatever. But we never had a formal introduction.

Damn. That's crazy. Wow. That's a introduction. Like ever. That's crazy. Wow. That's the first. Yeah, that's crazy. Have I ever worked with somebody that I haven't met? That's the same shit. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.

You know what was nuts? When we went to the after party and you told me you never met Pharrell. Yeah, I never met Pharrell. At the very beginning of my career, I think like in Puerto Rico, when I had Mixed Showarrell yeah I'm at the very beginning of my career I think I can Puerto Rico when I make sure power summit okay beginning we came to like 30 deep and scared everybody's right now yeah the black hands yeah nobody want to be our friend then we were 30 they were like

that make sure power something I was there remember that shit was like 30 people like they came with our army there's like 50 of them like 28 niggas but it felt like six but that's 20 still alive you may be like he was we came we know some bullshit so I met for all that he was like get ready for me please fast as fast as possible they just you know I did that first I came to Miami I posted the shirt the thug that was your today yo yo yo I know it's great with three busloads full of niggas in the game is watching this shit I was a fan of CNN and Nori when he went solo,

y'all was super thuggin' it. Way worse than we was doin' it. Y'all niggas was bustin' it. Yeah, y'all were lookin' like G's. What do you want me to do? They was like black people for black people. I remember that. Wu-Tang and Rough Riders.

Yeah, y'all niggas was just deep. Rough Riders too. I was too young. I didn't know what they got on these things. That Wu-Tang shit is different though. No, because Wu-Tang had a right to be deep. They were the only group that had a right to be deep. Because they got nine of them. Think about it.

Everyone brings two people. It's not two Diego. It's 18. They start at 18. They start big two people. It was nine times two, Diego. Eighteen. They started at eighteen. They started at eighteen people. Because everyone was allowed an assistant and a manager. And then a security. So what's nine times three, Diego?

We had every Brooklyn nigga possible. That's 27 people. That was the most worst ever award show ever. It's crazy. I feel like in OBV, it's just sometimes you be like, yo, like niggas don't know. Nah, niggas don't know. I was too young to be in the tunnel. I snuck in. My first time in, I was like 16. I remember, yeah, what, what, what? The MU.U. niggas, that nigga was mad deep. That song came on, I seen niggas chain, yeah. What? To that song.

Nigga tried to play it off the ground. Son, that one, yeah. I'm an amazing, I'm a young nigga like, ah, these Norian, these niggas is nuts. They had that shit super lit. I'm not gonna lie, they was terrible. Uncle Murda's my nigga, and y'all my niggas. It's nuts. They had that shit super lit. I didn't hear the question. Hold on. I didn't hear the question. I didn't hear the question.

I was just. We got love for Queens. We got love for Queens. We not going loud. You know what I'm saying? We not going loud. We not going loud. We not going loud.

We got love for the shoulders. Yeah. Coming through the shoulders. The train through there. Let me tell you. I thought you meant it was about the tunnel. No, it is about the shoe on the shoulders the train Okay stay out of there that's a Brooklyn artist perform, stay out of there. That's a Brooklyn night. K, have you ever been to Brooklyn? No.

Okay. Brooklyn night. Right. Buckshot already performed. Brooklyn night. Come follow me. B.I.T. perform. Brooklyn night. It's more.

J. Rude and Damage. You know, like that type of thing. But don't get me twisted. See you in there. See you in there. It's a Queens night. I see the queen. I see the queen. It's the queen's night. Hold on. Let me finish this first, though.

Leave them both. It's okay. Nobody got wins on the queen's night. I see it. Hold on. I was too young to see the book with you. I was in the building. I was in the tunnel. I was in the tunnel.

I was in the tunnel. We were friends. We were in the building. You know what? It was like, here's this crazy shit. I was like, what? You were such a bad dude. You were such a bad dude.

I was like, what? Let me explain to them. We're good on tunnel night. It's so many New York artists popping That we not competing with No one outside of New York at this time Right We trying to have a better show Than the next New York dude Like I remember one time me and Cameron

He had horse and carriage. And I had super thug. And we had a bunch of B-sides that were working and that were dope. But the whole night, all they wanted to hear was horse and carriage. And super thug. And we, I'm talking about we went song for song it was almost a versus

without being verses because we same night no we went song for song in the tunnel oh wow that's legendary in the tunnel

that's fucking nuts on a Sunday yeah but we weren't battling Cam was my man still my man but yeah that's why

that's why I said it so we were going for a song. And I remember one night, I was drinking Henny so much that somebody passed me a water. And that was a bad idea. The water, the Hennessy ain't agree with the water. So I earled out. That was your MO back in the day. I earled out.

You know what? On the stage? It made it so better, didn't it? I kept going. And you know what? It made it so better, didn't it? I kept going. And you know what evened me out? You know what evened me out? Drinking more Henny. And then the water.

No, no, no, no, no water. Once you on, once you on, like... Y'all's amazing. You gotta keep it going. But, um, Eternal was legendary, like I said. If you ever performed in The Tunnel, or ever had your record played in The Tunnel. They've definitely never been there.

There's a couple of documentaries. Somebody needs to make a thorough documentary on it. What was your experience like in The Tunnel? Hold on, before you answer that question, every documentary has been captured from people that was behind the scenes or people that was like DJs or things like that. I need an artist documentary or the tunnel.

Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, me and C's could do some shit like that and then go on. And you know, Rap It Dead has... I don't know what's about that home but yeah like you gotta go yeah yeah yeah no little scared to go to the no About the unisex With a bar in it. That's amazing. That's amazing. That's amazing. That's amazing. That's amazing. That's amazing. But they did that in 44. That we got to play in the playoffs.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, we shot, what was that? Put your hands, put your hands. I was in the tunnel. Right again. Yeah. I was in the tunnel.

Yeah. You can see the whole block. It's a cobblestone. Oh, yeah. You can see the whole block. Hold on. Yes, keep going. I'm going to take a pee.

You can see the whole block. Yo, legendary time. That's what I'm saying. This golden era needs to be represented. We got to, we got to, because we got to golden era needs to be represented. We got to preserve that. We got to preserve it. Because the key shit you said tonight was, yo, damn, y'all was all young. Y'all was all young.

I'm sure you hear this a lot. Y'all was all young. Everybody was so young. Everybody was so young. And the thing is, as we get older, remember, technology is changing. So the generations that come, they can't even fathom the way that we were doing things back then you can't understand it yes that's why you have to document it to make it understandable like we didn't have twitter

like that's the information you need you're living testimony We was living in the analog. We was living in the analog. We was living in the analog. You could make shirts. You could do this. You could do all this. We had to. We had to. Did you guys see the Freaknik documentary? I saw the Freaknik documentary. I saw it too. I know. I know.

You gotta do 100% you need to understand. I get it. These young artists don't even do interviews no more. Some of them don't have to. You need to understand. You need to understand. You need to understand. You need to understand. You need to understand. You need to understand. You need to understand. You need to understand. You need to understand. You need to understand.

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See, wait. Oh, oh, and to get low? You know what I mean? I tried to side-seize. You tried to side-seize? Tell me about this, man. Yeah, I tried to side-seize. Like you was, and you was, and you was a rocker, fam.

Me, as a big fan, I was a rocker. I was a rocker. I was a rocker. I was a rocker. I was a rocker. I remember the time. You trying to sign a CD? Yeah, I tried to sign a CD. I was trying to sign a word. Please elaborate. The whole life, you know, that's... The influences. He right here, man. Whole is his influence.

I'm big influence. What was the whole... What's the whole feature you got? We got like three features. I did the remix to they song over. The 1-2-R. The Rock on the Trigger Mafia. And then we did a song, Do It All Again.

These are all classic choice. Then we did a song called Do It All Again with my man G-Da K. You know what I mean? He said it on the song. I'm signing with Bleak and I'm riding with the Rock. What went wrong? Us. We just bullshit.

There was a lot going on. And then the Rock broke up at that time. Yeah. It was at the end of the week. Oh, so this was back then. Yeah. It was time to just drop something. That's right.

So I posted something today. I said, think about all the people you would have never met if it wasn't for music. Right? So, DJ Killer Touch. It was like, I don't know, 6 in the morning. And I was just coming back from some festival. He was like, yo, C's and Jada Kiss, we at Booby Trap right now. Come through.

Of course I'm coming through. We popping at 6 o'clock in the morning. I'm like, what am I doing right now? But, you know what I'm saying? But that was a beautiful thing about having that hip hop history, coming to someplace like Miami, partying at a strip club, Booby Trap,

that's open till six o'clock in the morning, where it's limitless. And I was like, yo, I was like, this is Steve and Jadakiss. Big up to Mike from Booby Trap right now. We was at Booby Trap on the river. a river same owner that would never happen you know I'm saying so all it is I'm just happy to be a part of it thanks Maury but let me ask you because we a yayo said on drink champs it's a famous story that he went

to see college kind of tell him you yeah or whatever whatever at the station at the station can you tell us yeah were you there yes i mean this was at the height of the ts and 50 beef so here goes yayo tony uh tony yayo promoting his album right i was like why are they doing this they know they got beef so i'm in the middle of it so i'm gonna do my job i'm gonna interview but yeah yo was a willing participant well you knew what the beef was so he was walking into right so he went to go shake Cal's hand year was exaggerated. I saw it happen in slow motion. I saw it happen in slow motion. I said, this is going to be a problem.

And I just started yelling through the hallways, it's Tupac's birthday! It was Tupac's birthday? It was! Wow. But it seemed tense at the moment. Did that work? Yes!

It stopped. No, let me tell you. There were some people that rolled up. We're going to have to name this. Yeah, no, this is after the fact I saw the class name was thrown out there yes Yes, um the soldiers lined up it was going to go down and I saved them I saved everybody in the name of Tupac. Let's give it up again. I wouldn't have screamed that passionately because I knew what Tupac represented. This is not it. We already been there, done that. Let's not repeat all that.

Powerful. Powerful. That's Martin Luther King shit. That's Martin Luther King and Tupac. Spiritually text her. Yes. Let's give it up for spiritually text her yes let's give it up for that yeah nah that's real though all things being real that's real though yeah out yeah yo for repeating that story that we rock it's a couple of parts but that's why your pop is so polarizing, right?

Like, that's where we at. We could be either or, but right now we're elevated. Yeah, I'm glad we're grown. We're in our spiritual era. Because I have the upper hand like that against any of my... It's going to fuck. What you doing, Miff? What you doing?

I don't know. I think it's Petty Riley. Oh, yes, it is. No, he not. That's why we get along. Not now. Not now. I'm grown.

Petty Riley. I'm grown. But back in the day, if it wasn't, I had the upper hand like that. Oh you can spank You getting a message staple to your head they show all your who did it in what what we did Hello so grafted I'm dame dash DMU yet It would have been bodies that night. I don't like no smoke or blaze. Hold on, so Graf, did Dame Dash DM you yet? Yeah. Come on, man. Where you at? After the Dream Champs?

No. After Dream Champs? I'm asking about the rock chain. Did he ask? He called right away. He was like, well, I was going to make it short. He's not going to care. Let me make it short.

And he explained the rock chain. Well, to make it short, I got his blessing. I got it on and I'm happy as a motherfucker. I'm very happy. Flip it, Bob. I'm so good at that. When I signed there, I signed at the end when Rockefeller was breaking up between Jay and Dames.

So I didn't get the chance to experience making an album, going on tour, doing all the big shit with them. Or the chain. Or the chain, I'm not getting none of that. I'm living my dream now. I'm watching y'all niggas. Remember I met y'all niggas in London?

I'm still in there, but I'm still like a spectator. Like, wow, I'm fancy y'all niggas. I never got a chance to experience the business, the tour, the album. I made like five songs with y'all niggas and it was like clipped. Like, damn, that's it? Can I make six? That was the same challenge. Tupac birthday, anything? Same challenge. challenge. Tupac birthday, anything?

Same challenge. I didn't say Tupac birthday, anything. Don't pull up over there. Don't be in. Yo, you ain't lying. See, I be like, see what you doing over there? We don't fuck with you no more. Everything is going good.

It was dope. See, Payton's ass give you the. Oh, yeah, yeah, we put all that shit together. But I got Dane blessing, it's all good man. I shout out to all y'all niggas man. Bleak, Jayme, the whole fuckin' rock. I love y'all niggas to death man. I'm just happy to be here.

This is- Dane, give me your money. I don't know, I don't know. Alright, let's check in. It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday!

It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday!

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It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! It's my birthday! I have nothing but respect for Dane. I want to show, too. I have nothing but respect for Dane, but Dane be coming at me.

I just wanted to say, all right, cool. He told me in FaceTime while you were on the show, but I was going to chill. I'm in. Come on. Let's go. I'll say it to his face. He wants to smoke. Okay.

I'll say it to his face personally, too. But, you know, that's my man. I got nothing but love for him. I got nothing but love for him. But, you know, I got to respond. I don't want to respond with disrespect, but I got to let you know that I'm not going to be disrespected. Right. And the fact that you keep taking, like, these little fake shots is corny, bro.

Like, I have nothing to do with that shit. But at the end of the day, I will respond. Because if we're supposed to be black and excellent, I've never got paid for not one of these movies that I've done. I've never got paid for one of these soundtracks that I've done. So where is this real CEO shit that has been brewing? And I respect you. So where is this real CEO shit that, you know, has been brewing? Like, and I respect you.

Like, I do not want to start this off by, you know, disrespecting the person that I actually respect. But I got to address you if you're addressing me multiple times. Enough is enough. The big homie ain't the only one you keep bringing up. You bring it up anyway I know it's these gold bottles I'm in one of the state property movies with him you got paid no sir okay I'm just saying I'm asking like I'm not trying to start No, you told me no, you told me you can't get away. You gotta speak your Because that was his part of They didn't want to pay you? Oh, I didn't get paid.

Because that was his part of the... No, no, no. We all participated. The payment plan was supposed to be a part of him. But you know, I was with The Rock. So I got paid in different ways. You know, advances was boost up. Checks was cleared quicker. You know?

Shit just happened. You know, they little broke me. That money's know okay just happened you know they little bro let me get moved around yeah they little broke me it's all good but i'm yo i ducked dang like a for the uh one with the movie with kevin hart oh you didn't want to be in it no paper soldiers yeah that's why they ain't no with me that's what started but you've been there i'm gonna be in it you didn't pay for something i didn't want to be in it because like i said i didn't get paid from the first one so you're just like i'm like i'm not doing it and then it was like tension at that time so i'm like fuck that no i ain't doing this movie he kept calling me i'll be like yeah i'm

gonna pull up and never pull up so then but you didn't pull up eventually. So this is what happened, right? So he called Jay. He pulled the big joke out on me. So Jay like, yo Bleak, what's up? Why you ain't doing the movie? Man, go do that. Go handle that shit real quick. Man, you only got one line. Man, go knock that shit out real quick. So I'm like, alright. I go to the set. That nigga there was like, oh, so you wanna show off cause Jay called you?

But how did he even know? How did he know? Because he knew. He knew. He called home and then I came. He like, oh, this bitch ass nigga. We're home. I did not want to do that movie.

But then I thank God I did because, you know, I met Kevin Hart and that's what I'm saying. Word up. By the way, I appreciate you, James. Like, I really do. Hell yeah, the opportunity, man. Just to act. Just to put your boys in the movie.

See, me, we was a family, so I didn't care about money. I wanted to see my boys do their thing. You got a movie, I'm riding with you. That was the loyalty I had for my team. But y'all not getting paid? Y'all should have told me. I had a phone call. That was some bullshit.

That was some bullshit. I got paid in many different ways. Did you get paid for Pay the Fool? Yeah, keep going. Did you get paid for the Pay the Fool movie? Absolutely not. Keep going. Keep going.

The streets is watching them on there. Why did you participate? What was it? It was just your loyalty to the situation? I fucked with The Rock. Yeah, me too. All of these niggas was my, like, my, my, my. He was like The Rock, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I would see them.

You know what I mean? I bought them dope. You know what I mean? I bought them dope. I don't know about all that, but I see them. I bought them dope. I would see them. I fucked with all of them. I fucked with all of them. I would never think that we would be sitting here talking about a separation between any of this. I saw the beginning.

I saw that. And, you know, I was cool to pretend. I was probably the only Queens person that did at that time. You know what I'm saying? I mean, yeah, if you look at it, you know what I mean? Like, think about it. Streets is watching. No, I was about to say MOP. Akanele think about the streets is watching. I know I was a MOP

But I can Ellie was the streets is watching Just talked in because I love you Yeah, we're gonna FaceTime him. FaceTime him. We'll blink too? You sure? Let's go. I'm gonna go away. Let's go. Once again, who say it's natural? Who say it's natural? Hold on.

Hold on. Let me just tell you a story about how I see Dame. This is Dame I know. I don't know what to say. This is my i know right okay when i first signed in iraq we had a deal like this he was like this you signed when i press release them all before the paperwork was done he was like you signed press release i was like all right that's gangster so he signed to iraq but we didn't do the paperwork yet so we still doing the paperwork and i'm still in the street a million percent so i'm like oh i'm on a rock now i don't want

to get jammed up by no police activity or play myself and blow this opportunity because I'm outside doing X, Y, Z. So I come to Dame and I'm like, yo, I don't want to fuck up my opportunity. I know the deal's not done, but I'm outside still doing, you know, I'm still hustling. And he said, you know, come up and say, you need some money? I was like, that's what I'm trying to say. And he was like I bet so he took me to his financial advisor and he gave me 10 bands so he could say take this money and get out the street me being a Jamaica Queens nigga that I am I put that money back in the street

but I bought some bad work and it didn't come back I lost the 10 please yourself I was like yeah hmm New York state of mind. Let me call Dane back again and submit this. I said, Dane, I know you gave me the 10 to get out the street. But me being a Jamaica, Queens nigga, I went back to the street with it and I lost it. He come up and said, what, you need some more money? I was like, yes, I'm trying to save him. I got to be proud to say he went back in me another 10, nigga.

You better not put it back in the street. Nigga, I owe him 20 bands. I should have never said out on the show right now No, he looked out. That's outside the deal, bro. Can you FaceTime me? Your next show, I have to be the one to hold you, nigga. Give me that 20 D's. That's outside the deal. You did that for me. That's a possibility. Lee Daniels?

He made a boy Lee Daniels? He was trying to tell y'all some real shit. Dame is part of the rock. We all dirty, ground, bottom niggas. We look out with the, you know how you got a scratch off you got a scratch the numbers to see he scratch off all the numbers he's saying he's the last Indian give a number come back I need that back huh no but I'll give it back I'm saying? That's what I know. Game of real one. He going to hold it down. But the game that we see today, it breaks my heart.

Because put it like this. We all hustling. Every hustler in the game. I know you can't name one hustler that just had his scot-free. And any type of hustle. It only has to be the streets. It could be in business or anything. You're going to have a hiccup.

Right. The name of the game is the bounce back. And the second time is always more enjoyable than the first time. That's my opinion. It could be in business or anything. You're going to have a hiccup. Right. The name of the game is to bounce back. And the second time is always more enjoyable than the first time. That's my opinion. So to watch a hustler just do what he doing now instead of really locking in and getting back at it, just hurts my heart. To see a true hustler.

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Dame is who he is, man. Like you who you watch for you guy a day is who he is man Like you can't not the nigga for who he is. He could be arrogant could be obnoxious But he's a smart businessman and know how to build something he helped build the greatest Empires in the world so I know it could be done again Even if it's not in music even if it's something that I'm not just gonna lock in and take your focus I feel like it's focus is all over just gotta lock in And take your focus I feel like His focus is all over And not locked in On what it needs

You know what I'm saying I agree too It's like You gotta adjust the target You know what I'm saying I agree yeah Because his His genius

Is with How he perceived Who Hov is today He has an intricate part in that Let's not take that away from That's what I'm saying I don't like Let's give

Let's give that to each other We definitely giving that to him get let's give that to each other yeah let's give that to each other regardless of what right wrong or different right I never kick a man when they down so you know and like especially one of my bros is like especially a OG I looked up to that gave me the game I believe all looked up I carry some of the game they they taught me him Biggs and Jay like you know what I mean just to even be in their presence at that time, they were the top brass of their class, man.

There was nobody in any field that was hustling harder than them three niggas. And even Biggs gets an underestimation for his role in Rockefeller startup money. Exactly. We want to talk about Rockefeller startup money. Biggs, no, startup money Talk about Biggs

Nah I'm just saying Biggs is a We talking about Damon Hove Biggs Talking about Hoffa You heard Hove shout out Hoff and

God did Yeah Man For real If we ain't book that low I gotta go back to the verse But yo It's

It's It's levels It's layers Definitely It's layers That thing bill is it was special man so like i said i don't i don't enjoy it i'm not one who take laughter in this and like yeah let's let's do this like you talk about this and i ain't with that i want to see my g bounce back and get back the way he deserved to be yeah man i like that i like that we want to dance about it

it means you accept it. It's just like, nah, you're just playing your part. I just fall back. Some things don't have to be said. I know what that man did. It's not my job. Sometimes it's just cool just to

if you know what it is, say goodbye. Everybody just feel like their opinion. They just want to be entitled to their shit. Sometimes certain things are for certain people. And as long as you know you're good with them on that. That's it. Everything ain't for the fucking internet.

Right. A hundred percent. A lot of people don't want to be seen. Some things just stay within you. Me and you know what it is. Like he just said, it's nothing. We all seen that. We watched it, we all seen it.

Did you really have to like do that? To break it down, right. To do this like, nah, he meant that and he meant that and he's here and he's there. It's nothing to discredit. That type of thing. Motherfucker's always trying to shoot shit. I love this industry.

This is a real round table discussion. This is a square table, but you know what I'm trying to say. Like, we do it on and on. Deville, who's your favorite rapper of all time? Oh man, you can't do that to me. You gotta give one. Of all time? Because we all gotta answer this one. Just one.

Not no top five. I'm asking one. One? One of your top five. That's rough, man. Let's say Busta Rhymes. Wow. Top number one of all time.

One of the top. Yeah, definitely. I think with style, pattern, and yeah, he's creative. I be putting Busta. Shout out to Busta, though. Just to highlight some Busta Rhymes. I be putting. Whenever I see Busta Rhymes, I tell that nigga, yo, bro, I say your bust, you're Mount Rushmore. I say your bust, you're Mount Rushmore.

There's not too many people like that anymore in our world. So, you know what I mean? Like, he's one of those creative cats that really brought something unique to the table. It comes from all kinds of cloths. No, no, no. That's just the way it goes. It goes this way. You're just saying one.

Not top five. Spin the block. Which way? Because you said you just said we're going to go in the EFF. We end the EFF. It's your turn.

Everything always skips the EFF. No, the EFF. Listen, it's your turn. She starts. It's not my turn. Your turn. F-N-E. Everything always skips EFF. No, no, no. He ends it. Oh, he ends it. He's the Busta Rhymes of this shit. He ends the last verse. Your favorite rapper of all time.

My favorite rapper of all time. I'm going to go with. For me, because I know it's criteria for me. So when you ask me. So I'm going to go with. I'm going to go with, for me, because I know it's criteria for me, so when you ask me. So I'm going to go with Tupac Shakur. Do we have to give an explanation? I know who she is, don't got to ask. I know who she is.

You want to give an explanation. We know who she is. You don't have to give an explanation. Cardan, you don't have to give an explanation. I can elaborate. Yeah, you can elaborate. So for me, Biggies right is the best rapper Biggie Smalls was born to be a rapper right after like Tupac was born to just be who he was just the soul that that

That trends like pockets Pac right? I can watch pox Doc's movies forever and ever just it's gonna always inspire me and give me some give me some energy, right? but I feel like nobody is nobody can nobody's ever rap better than Biggie Smalls Biggie Smalls was born to be a Rapper bro. This guy's so so great Let me get, no, no, let me, no, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, real quick. No, chill, real quick, real quick, real quick, real quick. Check it out, real quick. No, I'm telling y'all why, I'm telling y'all why I picked, why I picked. This is like, this is deja vu on this. No, it is, but check it out.

But they wasn't there, so check it out. Right, check it out, check it out, check it out. I'm there for you. No, it's quick, I'm going to tie it up. Listen, how I listen to B. to bi how i listen to tupac for me personally i feel like tupac was uh he he fed my soul he gave me like a different a different but when it comes to music and hip-hop and songs and sonics and beats and flows nobody's nobody can't nobody can rap better than biggie smalls so it just depends on the criteria, bro. So if I had to say one, I'm

gonna say Pac because it feeds my personal soul. My decision for Pac is personal. It's not based off of sonics of music and beats and rhymes. Alright? So, go ahead. Out of control. We know what it is. Of course. You gotta skip both of these. I mean, just as a fan of music, I mean, I just felt like nobody was more... Put the mic closer to him, please. I felt like nobody was more complete than him. As far as if you wanted to talk about rapping and lyrics,

like cadence, flows, bars, metaphors, really that. Like, it's just a certain few people that could really do that. It's just a certain few people that really do that. Him and Hope was like, really them top ones that could actually just match just the sound of how you want to go. You want to go slow, you want to go fast, you want to go metaphor,

you want to go storytelling, you want to go content. He was just like that well-rounded rapper. And that's how I always judged somebody. I thought that was dope, just how many ways you can just go You know what I mean? That's why Big is my favorite

Not just because he's from my hood If I wanted to be biased too I'm still on that type of town too But that's who I am Outside of B.I. Who would it be? Outside of B.I. Who would it be?

Outside of B.I.? Notorious B.I.G. Only one Only one You can listen to for the rest of your life. Outside of Big? Outside of Big. Oh, man.

Just quick. You can let him come back. Let him think about it, man. Don't leave the witness. Don't leave the witness. Don't leave the witness. Let him think about it, man. That's hard because when you talk about somebody outside of Big.

I think everyone here at New Year's is going to pick Big, right? Exactly. So maybe I should have started. I'm sorry to ask somebody that could really like, I don't know, because I grew up a little different. So that could be Rakim for me. It's not going towards this, because that's where Big State's at for me, but I'm talking about before Big as being just a kid and a fan who you listen to and who you probably would. Grand Poobah, you know what I'm saying?

It's shit that really means something. It's not about the dopest, but somebody that really inspired me in that type of way. That's dope. They don't have to deliver anything. I agree with that. I agree with that. Like, Grand Daddy, you was young, right?

He had, like, one or two records, right? But you might know five or six records from him. I was like the guy for me The trick to this is there's no wrong answer Let's go grab The trick to this is there's no wrong answer. There's no wrong answer. It's you. It's you. At all. Let's go. There's no wrong in you. So let's go, Graf.

See, I'm going to base it off my influence, right? You're one to one. Yeah. It's weird to say one because it's like I'm cheating how I developed as an artist. That's why we're doing this. Yeah. So it's like I want to merge two niggas into one, but it's like. Let's see it.

Let's hear it. That's what Max V did. That's why he big of Vell. Shout out to Max B. Facts indeed. See, like, I started rapping because of Nas. So when you hear my music and it's wordy and intricate, that's all the Nas influence. But then when you get to the wit, the cadence,

and me just talking on a beat, that's all hove. So it's really both of them niggas that got me sound right now. Otherwise, when I first started rapping like Nas, I found some of them old raps. The words is so complex. I don't know what the fuck I was talking about. I was like, I need a dictionary to define what I mean in this verse. Because I was trying to be so smart on that level. There's no Google back then.

It's dictionary. No Google, yeah. You know, Google replaced dictionary. Facts. But I had a dictionary right there on the right on raps. So they were too complex to even digest or to enjoy. When I heard Hov, Hov gave me the permission as

an artist to do so much new shit and play with the inflection and imitate accents and all of this shit. Hov did everything first to me. I'm like, this nigga is just, if you take Hov away from being Hov and you just put him as an artist and compare him like how we all on the same level right here, you understand how amazing this nigga is. Yeah, incredible.

Nigga's really impressive. Incredible. He did so much here first and allowed me to be like, oh, I can do that. He gave me the freedom to be way more creative and be free with whatever. He gave you the courage to even try it. I just call it the freedom because before that you might be questioning, like, can I do this? Now he would do it, but like, oh yeah, I can do that. You know what I'm saying?

So it's a combination of both of the niggas I got me sounding about sound now and then I got it though a minute minute to was in never follow rules ever why start now there's no wrong answer there's no wrong answer today today it might be jay tomorrow yeah it's hard to do that i mean i'm gonna go with they got us on the wrong day today we can't take a shot but but it's not even 100 accurate it's like it's both of them niggas to keep it on it i wouldn't sound like this without both of them at all you can't take a shot he luckily you see here yeah yeah i got i got a couple of the shots we shouldn't even ask you yeah you know who mayan says we love the lawyer yeah change the life of everything but you can give us a wonderful time if you want yeah no just you know the big homie isn't is none i watched at first before ho hope it was big but then I watched big create

What hope became by what big was right? push hold the Better, but I created the monster he became I never got the chance to see big finish to Compete That's seeing how they they they win the studio and spot each other like Yo, do you die like hold on? I remember big coming or doing doing when they did Brooklyn finest and he heard J verse it was like, uh, uh We writing this together boy. You think you doing?

Be honest together sprinkle J to be there wasn't supposed to be laugh a lot where Jay did a bird Oh, he's saying write it together with big ass They Jay had a verse already on the beat and when big came and heard the back and forth right right right right hello playboy we writing this together behind that he scrapped that whole verse so he scrapped the verse yeah yeah wow that's amazing it was hold by itself yeah wow so far that's amazing they had a lot of respect for each other man that's what i'm saying who did you want can tell back there you can tell who came man it's just it's inevitable but they got history from like before before they they was rapping they they didn't have they did they go to the same school you gotta remember this high school you gotta

remember big and kim went to the same school west house House. Fucking, I think AZ, Busta, and Jay went to the same school. Jay. Wasn't it Busta, Big, and Jay? Yeah, but afterwards. That's a high school. I think it was AZ. I think Busta, Big went to West House, right? Yeah.

So AZ is from Brooklyn. Yeah, AZ is from Brooklyn. Wow, same as up from high school. Yeah. And they've been going at it like they whole life bro like on the battle tip yeah this on the battles just knowing that they wrap yeah it was bad in high school yeah yeah that's a graph would you have a battle rap hell yeah come from that yeah that's what I don't know if you want a battle He would battle fab so he would battle Fab said Yo, Fab said he would take a battle He just gotta get

The conditioning No, no It is conditioning I just did Loaded Lux podcast Last week With Moop and Lux And I was talking

About the same topic I did see that I was like It came out? Get the fuck out No, I saw it I saw it on Moop Oh, okay

But now I was saying If I'm a battle I gotta battle a rapper That's a rapper Cause I look at the way What they turn battle rap into To to me is hip-hop theater that shit is a sport and an art that should be respected as it that that to me is genius level rap that nigga can't just walk into you gotta really train for

that if a nigga like when I got certain bags to step in the ring with them niggas I'm like I need at least seven months of paper these kind of niggas they're gonna be doing it thinking what does that mean when you say it's theater it's such performance art it's like art hip-hop art performance because you don't got to be the most lyrical you got to be the illest performer yeah no you have to be that's what you want to be remarkable. Yeah. With the width. Like the angles. Why you got on this screen? Yeah. Somebody got to say it.

He's stepping into the world. Yeah. That's a talent. That's a genius level talent by itself. And I'm like, I'm not going to put myself in there like I'm that. You know what I'm saying? You're stepping into the world. But a rapper like, let's say a fab or.

Yeah, you think. Do you watch better rap? Let me finish real quick. Yeah, I'll be watching. Me too. But let's say like a nigga on my level, let's say a fab or bank someone in the ring. Oh, I battle any one of them niggas. In a battle with somebody on my level, that's fair a fab or banked someone in the ring, I'll battle any one of them niggas. In a battle with somebody on my level, that's fair.

But to battle them niggas, that's not fair. They too good at that. They too good at that. I ain't going to lie. We fighting. You don't have to. You don't have to. Because you're not winning.

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lauren hill right that album was everything but i going to have to give it to Andre Thistacks. For me. That man is amazing. Only because he was one of the first artists. He is really 3,000. That's what he is. He is really above all of this. His lyrical flow, the way he's talking about it. When everybody thought they were coming out with an album

He dropped Love Below What? I bought that Seriously That's one of the best albums I've ever heard But even on Love Below He was so lyrical

He was so melodic He was so hip hop He could still dance to it And it was all about the women And love And elevation So Andre Three Stacks Is my top

He's one of the ones He's one of the ones And He be in random places He plays the flute He plays the flute In random places Andre three stack he won in my time What he said the street with the flu You gotta lose it all to go to 42nd Street and play the flute. Like, he ain't been on 42nd Street. No, he's rich as shit. But that's 3K, yo. And he sold millions and millions of records.

Like, it's visually stimulating. I'm not mad at that. You can't be mad at Andre T's pic. And he's one of the first artists that can get away with a long wig, cowboy pants, and shoulder pads. My innocent pack is kind of taken

after three seconds. Last but not least. What is it? What is your number one order? I already know what it is. I said something you said. You said ice cube or some shit.

No, I already said it. You said ice cube already? Yeah, ice cube. I had to be honest because I anticipated. I knew it already. You knew that. Yeah, you knew that. I got a question.

What is your favorite era of hip hop? What was your favorite era? The golden era. The golden era. People are confused of what, not confused of what, but what was your favorite era? I got a question. What was your favorite era of hip hop? What was your favorite era?

The golden era. The golden era. The golden era. The golden era. I got a question. What is your favorite era of hip-hop? What is your favorite era? The golden era. The golden era. People are confused. We need a window. We need a window. It's a ticket. Because I got paid.

I got paid. No check. If I'm on the 10-year block, that is the best. I would say 89. Yo, I would say 89. 99. He said, though, what's your original golden era? And the safe version of it is 85 to 95. that's the golden era for hip-hop okay

i'm gonna go i'm going 89.99 yeah i'm gonna go 89.99 it was a wild era god damn it. Pass me. Go ahead. My era, man. Fuck that. 89, 99. I say 89, 99. 89, 99. Now, what's your golden era of hip-hop? 89, 99. It could be 85. I don't have a... It could be the hip-hop. The hip-hop.

I wasn't even selling drugs then. My favorite era of hip-hop was the DVD mixtape era That time span, whenever the fuck that was This is 89, 99 Nah, that's more like 2000s Oh yeah, that's the smack DVD Yeah, the mixtape to the DVD era was my favorite time of hip-hop That's your golden era?

What was my band name who used to be on smack DVD? That's my era That nigga on there What's his name? Shay Davis Shay Davis Gun go big slam name who used to be on smack dvd that nigga smacked yeah and he had a few joints too ce seize what's your favorite era of hip-hop 95 89 99 I went to the garden show i went to the garden show yeah yeah yeah yeah having skelly conversations to the side also my day tall remember when they went on tour i told him i got clipped off that tour

i remember watching that in the crowd as a young boy like blowing around the tour no the the big the bad boys for life tour bad boys for let you got clipped over there what happened damn no he was that back then though i don't know what happened if there was what was ever the smoke what what mace who with us yeah just if there was it could have been none if i don't you know that was some Harlem shit, B. I was a deep in Brooklyn nigga back then. No, I'm saying if you don't know of any smoke. No, I don't know what caused it. I just know we was active.

We was ready for all the smoke. Was he a target? Who? Mace. Yeah, he said some smoke. So, yeah, we did a record and dissed him. Like, it was on. Wait, wait, so Mace said something first about R&B?

I'm asking him because I don't know. I'm asking. On them R&B records. He was talking. You hear Jose. Like it was always so may says something first about him because I don't know R&B records he was talking you hear whole saying Easy on the R&B records, but I'm platinum a million times. They could check the credits. Yeah. Yeah No, no, that's Jake. That's Jay stuff. Yeah Yeah, I was just talking on them Saying what he said niggas talking on the seat so cuz I'm actually because I'm asking. He was just talking on them, on them records. I'm gonna ask a green one. So what do you think Hope was saying when he said niggas talking on them records?

I'm trying to see because I'm on the Mase side, right? Right, yes, yes, yes. See, Mase, and it definitely hit home when he said, don't really fuck with Dang,

but still we cop Jigga. Yes. I remember Dang was This is on the fire. This is not Dang was on fire. Mase, you said that, right? Yeah, yeah.

So let me just pause it really quickly so mace's first album his debut album is called the name of it is hollow world world yeah right not the hollow world a group what his name his album his album name was hollow world so he said that yo don't really with dan but still like cop jay yo want to act we can act that was my shit too right in front of ways so how was that a shot At home how does hold take that person? At the time. At the time. At the time. In 1970. That's how we go. That's the code.

What made Mace set it off? Because I have no idea. Okay, great question, Graf. So Mace, Cam, they grew up with Dame Dash, 1199, on the east side of Harlem, right? So I feel like I was super young. The Dame and Mace fall off first or something? I'm trying. Let me just give it to you however I remember it.

Yeah, let's do it. Let me give it to you however I remember it. So I feel like they grew up at 1199. This is when bloodshed was alive. So this is children in the corn days, right? Recipes bloodshed. Right, recipes of bloodshed. So I feel like somewhere along the line,

the trajectory changed where cam took you know thought along the more along the lines of dame and mace was like i'm mace because mace turned out to be mace right right so i feel like somewhere along the line they split just they just split thinking the same way and uh not being cool around that time Damon Mace that's I'm trying to Damon Mace I don't think I don't think I don't I really genuinely don't think our Dame was about Macy's type of guy gosh I'm saying you know how we have a good we have our type of guys that we get along with more than others I just don't think Dame was his type of guy um so that's what... Did Mace and Dame ever got pros? Of course. I think Cam. I think Cam. Because these people live in a crazy world.

So you got to say pro. You think Cam and Dame got a lot more. I think Cam and Dame was more air-likes than Mace. They got a lot more. Okay, all right. Yeah, that's what I was trying to establish. You know what I'm saying? Because Mace is like, yo, you know, Mace still went on to be successful.

You know what I'm saying? Without, you know what I mean? Just going against the odds. Yeah. Um, so I think that's where that trajectory changed, just along Mason Cameron's line, along the line. You know what I'm saying? Okay.

Yeah. But he said, I don't really fuck with Dane, but still I cop Jiggins. Now Bleak is saying, yo, we ain't fuck with none of that. You was dissing our man at the time. Yeah, it was strong. Because I'm trying to get to the Mason J's timeline. But it was a lot of, you got to remember, too.

Yeah, I'm trying to get to the Mason J's timeline. You it was a lot of, you got to remember, too. It's beautiful. Yeah, I'm trying to get to the Mason J's timeline. You got to remember, too, bro, this is the era of who the big dog in the city. Right. Remember, Mace was the big dog in the city at that time because he was selling records. He was. But Hov still was pulling up in the bigger cars, better watches. Like, I'm that nigga outside.

So it was always that competitiveness and then you know the Harlem shit, y'all niggas damn juicing it up. It goes even further now. But then when it got into the music, I guess niggas just went lyrics at each other. And you know what I like about Hov, his humility? Because on every day a star is born,

he said yo, his first line, right? Seen Mase do it, seen when he do it x came through caught lighter fluid yeah every day a star is born we can we can give us up on yo he said yo his first line was yo see mace do it see do it so he he gave that up and like i said on on the episode before before this um you know i'm like yo ho was just you, this is a Sparta, man. This is Sparta. This is Gladiator, man. It's MC versus MC. Like he said, it was New York versus New York. It was just for that New York

spot. This is real boxing. This is real shit. This ain't just... And this is my brother. I really love your friend to the core, but he always reminds me we kind of... like the world didn't realize that it was y'all against y'all and it was other people that existed in this world

do you think that new york was too cocky at that time 100 I'm from Harlem. What part? Like what's the street? I'm from Harlem. I'm from the same projects. 131st Street. 7th and 8th. Okay. See that's the New York. That's the New York shit. Like what part? East side, west side.

You can't even ask a New Yorker, yo, where you from? They gonna tell you I'm from Harlem. You're not gonna tell them you're from New York. You're not gonna tell them you're from New York. You're not gonna tell them you're from New York. You're not gonna tell them you're from New York. You're not gonna tell them you're from New York. You're not gonna tell them you're from New York.

You're not gonna tell them you're from New York. You're not gonna tell them you're from New York. You're not gonna tell them you're from New York. You're not gonna tell them you're from New York. You're not gonna tell them you're from New York. You're not gonna tell them you're from New York. You're not gonna tell them you're from New York. You're not gonna tell them you're from New York. You're not gonna tell them you's the New York. That's the New York shit. Like what part? What side? East side? West side? See like yeah, you can't even ask a New Yorker, yo, where you from? They gonna say I'm from Harlem. You're not gonna say I'm from New York to nobody. They gonna say he from New York. They gonna say I'm from New York. I'm from Brooklyn. I'm from fucking Harlem. A real New Yorker would never say I'm from New York.

That's the division right there. Like if you ask a person if you from Miami, they say, I'm from Dade County. Yeah. Yeah. You like, all right. We from Miami. We from Dade County.

A New York native. Wait, the name is who? I'm from Jamaica, Queens. God damn it, I bring you my block. No, I'm not from New York. I'm from Jamaica. Right. Any time people meet me, they always think I'm from.

I'm a sub-5. Yeah, I can't wait to see it. I'm from Cali Kitchen. Niggas always ask me where I'm from, and I tell them Brooklyn. They be like, where that's at? Yeah. Oh, you're like, yo, I'm from Boston. But no, you're from Brooklyn. Yeah, I'm from here. I tell them Brooklyn like where that's at We don't recognize the

There's a pork and beans. I'm not sure. What was the last question? Huh? What was the last question? I don't know. Was it, was it, was it? Give us some more gasolino. I love drink jam. I love drink jam.

Yo, who's the brownie? Get up here. Get up here. Get up here. Get up here. Get up here. Get up here. Get up here.

Get up here. Get up here. Get up here. Get up here. Get up here. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday.

Cheers. Happy birthday. Cheers, man. And I can't wait to hear your music With Damien Wilde But I got a question It's Banner Go listen to that There's a video and all that for you Congrats

It's a part of his camp I can't think of the name right now Shout out to Gil Green I got a question for the whole the beach oh man we it's it's a part of his camp i i can't think of the name right now i got a question for the whole goddamn drink champ staff lee rasta all your leader when is rock solid dropping when we drop it as soon as we get the footage back we we're going to make a super trailer. We're going to show you what Bleak Glock got. Because, listen to me, bleak shit is no joke. Bleak is a natural.

What's the premise of your podcast? That's the ego, K-Pops. Can you take over? Yes. The premise of my shit is just telling funny shit. Like, I let the journalist be the journalist I'm not a journalist Nori gassed me up to do this shit

Cause he's a fucking real He's officially a journalist So now I found my pocket And I don't want to be a journalist I don't want to be personal I want to be the guy that you tell The fun side of this life. If you want to get into your personal issues,

that's on you. But I will never be the one to bring it up. I'm not the clickbait guy. So when you first got your first big check, what'd you buy? What you mean? In music? Yes. Okay. Do you want to go to the hospital? What'd you want to do? Which way you want to go? Shit. In music, when I got... See, that's a double-edged

question because I got to bring up Jay Brown in this one man jay brown the old g jay brown yeah that's that's the biggest thing because i don't even know what the business is yeah i only been asked that question twice okay once by him and then by you oh i feel honored yes jay Brown asked me when I first met him you know I was about 15 16 years old we in LA and he was like yo bleak man Jay talk highly of you like you know I mean you about to be on you about to be the first artist on the Rockefeller what's gonna be the first thing you say Brown was down back then so breezy was like yo what's the first thing you going to buy when you get your first check? And I was like, yo, I'm going to buy a big-ass chain, nigga.

Coming through with the Herc. You know what I'm saying? This is what they used to be called, Hercules. Like, I'm coming through. And he was like, you going to buy a chain? Oh, God. Nigga took the chain off his neck, gave it to me, and said, hun, you got a chain. Now what you going to buy?

Who did that? Jay Brown. Breezy? And then what happened? What you mean, what happened? I bought a house. I bought a house. There you go. Elevated thinking. That's what it is. Oh my God, I love that.

Now, Bleak is a legend, man. Seriously, Bleak is a legend. I love that. I'm living in Lansbury. Hey, you Bleak, I got a quick question. So, at what time in life was this where you was like, yo, holy shit, I'm Memphis bleak, it's up, there's no going back, it's only this way? What year and what time were you still in school? How did this work out for you?

When it hits you, like, yo, yo, I'm not going back to where I usually go home at night. When I bought my first crib, 1997. Wow. 1997, when I bought my first house. Where's the jersey? Jersey, yeah. 97 going into 98, I bought my first house. And I remember saying, damn, it's crazy.

I never have to look back. And looking at the success we had, I never thought The Rock would ever end. You know what I mean? Especially at that time. I was the youngest nigga in the crew, so I wasn't prepared to see the end. Let me get ready. Let me tuck away just in case. It was like, yeah, right, we living.

I'm going to get another advance tomorrow. And tomorrow never came one day. But that took a while to happen. That wasn't like... But that took a while. That wasn't in two years. No, no, no. It was a

15-year run. Like, 15, 20 years. We had a hell of a run, man. And I can honestly say, man, like, a lot of people you see around that you might think they just came around, like Romero. Romero was Big Daddy Kang driver when I first met him. You know what I'm saying? I remember doing shows with Hov, and Romero would drive the limo back then, and he would drive everybody off.

We would be in White Plains. We'd be in Long Island. Some people in Queens. But everybody was in nice houses. This Jay had the crib downtown with a Barclays in that now the Duke they used to call it and I was the 60th Street yeah 560 State Street and I was the last getting dropped off because you know I'm the little homie and that limo used to pull up in Marcy Projects, my nigga. I used to feel like a limit.

Cause I used to be like, how am I pulling up to the hood in a limo, my nigga? It used to be like, nah, you just came from hotels, man. Remember, we used to stay at the Wilshire, Beverly Hills, shit like that. You coming back to the projects, it's like, what you mean where the Dutch at? Nigga, you know where I just came from?

Yeah, bro. I ain't gon' lie though, I don't know, this is before Instagram. Do you know how lit you was? You had all the Queens bitches on your body back then. Oh yeah, I used to be in Queens hard, my nigga. Nah, I used to be in Queens, my nigga Queens. I used to be in Queens, my nigga, Queens. Like, I knew Skane before.

Easy, look. So now imagine, look, check it out. Let's put everything, look, look. Check it out, look. So now imagine, all right, so we're talking about 96, 7, 8. Now imagine being with Mace, how more you want to come, how more you want to put money out the front, you go. That's what I say, yo, I ain't gonna lie yo bro so mason was a phenomenon i remember i remember hove going on

what was that song that was sunshine baby face right yeah and that was that was kind of a reach for hope i just told you my favorite rapper yeah my favorite rapper changed every fucking day Let's put that out there Out of those goats Alright so look Sunshine came out right But it was shiny suit era Yo bro Imagine Mace was on Brandy

Mace was on Mariah You like to talk about Mariah Yo Mace was Yo we All we gonna sit here and act like Mace wasn't Mace? No, he was that guy. Yeah, I'm trying to see where you're going with the story.

I'm just saying. No, no, no. Good question. Good question. Great question. So we talking, so I want to boomerang us back into real time. Mace is still existing this time. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, we talking about, yo, look. Why you over there looking at me? Mace is still exist in this time. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we talking about Ayo Eno Eno, look. Listen. Why you over there looking at me? Why you girls standing here? Guess who produced that? For real. For real. Neptune.

Why you over there looking at me? This is golden era time for me. Man, those was big fucking records. Golden era, yeah. But we all got our own golden era, respectfully. Respectfully. You all right, you? But yo, Mace, yo look. We gonna act like Mace, yo. That's why I keep going back. We all got our own golden era respectfully respectfully. You're right you but yo make your look

We don't act like Mace yo, that's why I keep going back to back every day of stars more Right on Jay one of Jay's last album Joe. He said you are seeing Mace do it fire First the first the first person he names I'm not listen me and Mace we have a good relationship But I'm not champion anything. I'm I'm for hip-hop we gonna leave here tonight yes say he was on whose side I'm gonna hip-hop side that's like everybody fuck everybody individually did his thing bro you're kidding me hell yeah no one could deny mace was that he did his thing i think it's dope is that you decided to come here on your birthday that was it that was family and uh yeah me and nori got a great history together we've done some records and

vibes with each other so you know i'm i'm curious to know if any of you guys got any new music that you're working on. Of course we got new music. Great, great. I'm working on a project right now. Really? Okay, okay, man. Yeah, I want to hear that, man. If Guru finally send me my records, he said he mixed them.

Hopefully I get them soon. Dope. Shout out to Guru. Okay. I did a song for a rocker called The Chain with Bleak. G-U-R-E-A-R. I'm going to tell you how to spell it. No, he spelled it wrong.

I'm going to tell you how to spell it. That's not Hov's engineer. Stop that. Where we at, Grif? That Hov stole. That's where we at, too. I didn't give him away. I didn't know that. He stole.

He stole them from me. He took my man. And we actually go, and now I gotta borrow him back. He took Rick Ross' fucking two, though. Who? What's your... No, Ross gave that up. Yeah.

Oh, Dubs? G. Bleak, Freeway. Dubs. Dubs. Dubs. Dubs. Dubs. actually and now i gotta borrow him back he took rick ross's second two though what's your what no you don't escape that oh bleep freeway pd correct he asked about the music oh shit no nothing crazy but dope it might be crazy just oh just who's uh working on music you know what i mean are you guys doing anything musically aside from everything else. Okay, see. Dope. This is Leo. Oh, fresh, man. Yeah, I can't wait to peep.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, come on. Holler at me, man. Let me know what's up, bro. We'd love to contribute, man. Absolutely. I'm out here, man. Nori, I'm out here, bro.

You already know. I come out. I frequent in Florida a lot, too. You know what I'm saying? My girls come here. Yeah, thank you, family. I'm dope. Let me mention something important

that I forgot to mention last time I was here. I got a program that I put into these schools in New York City for music therapy. Dope. I come into the schools

with the laptop, the microphone, the speakers. I'm teaching kids how to make music, how to... Amazing. About song structure,

financial literacy. Yeah. But the course is really based on social, emotional learning. I teach them how to express themselves and become better communicated

Right right That's from the hood Black and Spanish We ain't learn no love We didn't learn vulnerability We learn anger No I hear you bro Absolutely

I really come into these schools And help these kids Express themselves On some real shit That's incredible man I would love you with it I would love that Yeah we're all about that bro

Absolutely Give it back to the kids And give them a platform to shine You should bring that here To Miami as well I would love to Let's put that it back to the kids And give them a platform to shine You should bring that here To Miami as well I would love to Let's book that out I've been to like 10 schools in New York

One of the schools We have space for that We can do that here Okay that would be amazing One of the schools I'm in Is in a prison So I'd be really in there I don't know if I want to go to

All my brothers was in there No no you don't got to go there I'm just saying I'm just saying no no I don't know about what the school No no you know what I wouldn't bring I'm triggered by that

I'll pick what school to bring you to I'm just saying One of the schools I'm in Is in a prison So I'm there for the no, no. I don't know about what the school is. No, no, you know what? I wouldn't bring... I'm triggered by that. I'll pick what school to bring you to. I'm just saying. One of the schools I'm in is in a prison, so I'm there for the kids with some real shit. I get them my phone number. They call me whenever, all that. Well, I want to be a part, so... No, I would love that. I would love that.

They would love to see you work. We got to support each other. I got to say one thing. When I got my shit together... What? Your hair or what?'m gonna have cake box and feel much I'm getting back on my shit. I'm getting back on it. I fell off for weeks because, or maybe months. But my people that, when I get my shit together, is right here.

And he just finished a fucking marathon in Chicago. Oh, wow. That's dope. And this is who we're not winning that's because yes I'm on that same wave with you I'm on that same wave with you Give Scoop DeVille a bottle of Asian Spain Oh damn man

Thank you for always showing me hospitality family I appreciate you man Thank you for having me here I got tons of that shit at the crib. I got tons of ace at the crib. Yo, so, man. Word up. We do this every couple of months, you know, like a drink chat panel.

Are we going to be annual Fucking family day Yo I know I'm not signing No goddamn paperwork next time I'm down Not a gas We've been family since 1980 I'm not a gas We signed the paperwork up here

Release forms Can I take this candle It candles amazing Wait Oh Firing artists out there. No, right. So look It's my artist or inspired by people inspire people, everybody. Because it's all one thing. If Mifble can make it, if we could be here watching each other on Dream Chance, if you could make it, if Lil Cease could make it, and Graff, like K-Fox. We're making it.

We are. No, we're making it. We're doing the same thing, right? No, no, no. Get into existence. Look. No, finish your point. Finish your point.

Just for the purpose of the culture, I'm a media coach as well. Big ups to my mentor, Deanna Williams. She is one of the co-founders of Black Music Month, which preserves black music in June. She's the wife of Kenny Gamble, who produced, you know who Kenny Gamble is? Like, hello. So what I'm saying to you is that

we have to be the preservers of hip-hop and gatekeepers, I don't care, but teaching these artists how to express themselves, how to speak, how to form, relate a sentence. This is what I do for a living as well so if any of you guys need anybody to do that or any artists that you know we here yeah that's the development media come on they need it man and that's what we do when he got it we elevated motivated there's more to it that's crazy no see

that's good artist development is what's needed it's what's needed nobody said a lot of these artists, they going through mental issues. But in artist development, there was a department in music labels that had artist development, that cared about these artists. You taught them how to dress, where to move, how to move. You don't show somebody

your location and show up and get popped off. That's not G-code. You ain't gotta go chill. You know what I'm saying? Yo, chill.? Yo chill. You gotta say your last. I just want to tell y'all for a second. Yo chill. This shit done went all the way drink champs. This is what you get. This is what you get.

Did I pick up my man low? This is a good thing. Did I pick up my man low? This is a good thing man. I picked him up. I gave him a bottle. That look good. I think it's a good thing.

I think it's a good thing. I think it's a good thing. I think it's a good thing. I think it's a good thing. I think it's a good thing. I think it's a good thing. I think it's a good thing. I think it's a good thing. I think it's a good thing. I think it's a good thing. I pick up my man, Losey? This is a good thing.

Did I pick up my man, Losey? This is a good thing, man. I picked him up. I gave him a bottle. That liquor is real, boy. This motherfucker ran marathon. Dope. That's dope.

And then came outside. What is his name? His name is, what is it? No sleeping in the running club. What? Trophy room. Wait, what? No sleeping in the trophy room. No sleeping in the running club. What trophy room wait? What no sleeping in the trophy room? No sleeping in the trophy room. Get your ass over here

My name is Lowe's I represent the no sleeping running club No speaking in the trophy room. And no sleeping is all about not sleeping on your potential, not sleeping on what's possible, not sleeping on community. And it's a mindset. So, yeah, my run club is here in Miami. I'm from New York. I got a show. It's called No Sleeping in the Trophy Room. It's an active conversation.

Man, and yeah, we just finished running The Chicago Marathon That's amazing And Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah And That's it That's just a testament To what's possible You know

If you don't sleep on What's possible So Much love and respect Thank you, I know Appreciate it Drink that goddamn Ace of Spades

In my mind Jay-Z sent it to you I respect It's not the truth. But just ride with it. Ride with it. Just ride with it. Hey, yo, N.O.

Yes? I'm going to end with this, bro. Let's end it. You're going to end my show. I respect that. Let's end it. Let's end it. No, no, no.

Because we've been passing around. Let's end it. Yeah. Come on. Let's go. Let's go. Come on. Let's go.

Check it out. I want you's go. Check it out. Listen, I'm going to end it like this, man. End it. The end result is, yo, we got to support each other. This is my... We got to support each other because this is... We're a fraternity. Everybody's human, man.

Come on, we out here, bro. It's just humanity, bro. Yes, right. We got to... You know what? I'm going gonna stop it right there right up in the in the notorious big movie yo you can't change the world unless we change ourselves that's my last call god damn it all right this is called Drink Chance Panel slash Family Episode.

We thank, I'm sorry, ladies come first. Ladies come first. Who's the crazy uncle in the family episode? In the family episode? I don't know, you gotta pick that because you're the lady. Okay. But our sister, our family, our family, and by the way, whenever we have a woman woman we need you to fill in because we need more women yes yes and we need we need you to help us yeah officially send up I don't want to say olive grass because the olive grass means we have beef for us. Send some shea butter.

No, no, no. I like shea butter. Yes, yes. But we want to officially initiate that we need more females. And then when females come, we need a person like you to help them feel comfortable. Because we be talking about shit like, we fucking. We fucking. But if we have a female like you to help us out,

we're fully endorsing that, correct? Yeah. Well, thank you for having me. I'm so happy. And then, scoop the bill. Yo, man, thank you so much. Happy birthday, bro. Happy birthday.

Do you have a shot? Do you want to do a shot to end this out? I'm going to do a shot. To end this out? I've been sitting over here on tequila. Okay. Really? I want to take a moment to want a shot.

Nah, we cool. Thank you, man. Dulce. Thank you. What are you sipping on? Look at that. This is my shot. This is my shot here.

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