Drink Champs - Episode 438 w/ Consequence 

Episode Date: November 29, 2024

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legendary, Consequence! Drink Champs alumni, Consequence is back!  Consequence shares stories of his journey and the sacrifices he made along the way. Consequence shares stories from his ATCQ days, working with Ye. He also speaks on his relationship w/ Talib Kweli, Pharrell and much much more. Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!  Make some noise for Consequence!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆   *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more:  🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. legendary queens rapper hey hey segre this your boy n-o-r-e he's a miami hip-hop pioneer one of his dj efn together they drink it up with some of the biggest players you know what i mean in the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source for drunk facts where every day is new year's eve it's time for drink champs. Drink up, motherfucker. What it good be? Hope yous with us. It's your boy N.O.R.E. What up?

It's DJ E.F.N. And it's military man Crazy Roy. Y'all be our make some noise. Right now, we got a person I know just dropped an album.

He's one of the most lyrical guys in the world and always comes to Drink Champs and turns the fuck up. He don't need no liquor. He don't need nothing. He just go in straight up. He's a legend. We will give him his flowers today. Let's make some noise for one.

Only Carl TV. So let's talk about this album. You's make some noise for one only, Carl TV. Yeah. So let's talk about this album. You just dropped. Yeah, I just dropped. All right, so, and this is independent. Yes, well, it's my label, my new label, which is what we got on the merch on the table.

It's 192 Records. You know what I mean? Okay. Yeah, it's independent. We're distributed by Hitmaker and all that. You know what I mean? Hitmaker? Not Berg. Okay, okay. Hitmaker Distro distributed by Hitmaker and all that. You know what I mean? Hitmaker? Not Berg.

Okay, okay. Hitmaker Distro. Okay, I'll take that. Busta just signed over. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Damn, I never heard of that. He's the guy who they were arguing about,

who Royce and Joe was arguing with Crooked Eye and Joe L over. Oh. Yeah. Oh, that's the label that they signed to slow the house, you're saying, right? Well, yeah, to slow the house. When they did the breakaway, they did it with Tony B. Oh, okay. Yeah.

Now, where do you stand with Kanye? I just came back from China. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, tell us about that. Yeah, I just came back from China. I went out there for his show on HaKu. Okay. It was dope. It was dope.

I mean, we hadn't been, we hadn't linked in a minute. Okay. I had been working on the records and working on Caden's career and project or whatever. Your son, right? And he'd been doing the vultures thing. But we, you know, with me and Ye, it's so much, you know, it's so much then. We just really just, when I got there, you know, I met him over at the venue or whatever, and it's just we just really just when I got there you know I met him

over at the venue or whatever we just caught up you know what I'm saying in China that's the first time you've seen him since? for a minute yeah yeah yeah

definitely yeah so we just caught up and just you know kicked it with the kids and you know when we not you know obviously

we have a professional relationship which everybody knows about. But isn't he your godfather to your kids or something like that? On both sides, it's uncle. You know what I'm saying? So, you know what I mean? So, even with us linking, I had to FaceTime Caden so he could speak to his uncle. You know what I'm saying?

So, we was doing that type of time. Right. Did you have it? Yeah. We got something to talk about. No, go ahead. Let was on that type of time. Right. Did you have it? Yeah. We got something to talk about. Okay, let's go. I'm in.

So, I mean, but, in lieu of, you asked me about the meeting, I mean, obviously, there's been things

that have just transpired over the last, what do you want to say, 12, definitely 18 months or whatever. You know, obviously,

I was here when the infamous episode happened. Which is a second. you want to say 12, definitely 18 months or whatever. You know, obviously I was here when, um, the, the infamous episode happened. Right. Which is a second. You and I was on the phone.

It was just a lot. Cause we got to get to the, let's bounce around a little bit. We got to get to the infamous DJ Chicken Fingers. Who exactly is DJ Chicken Fingers? You got to stop that bullshit. You got to stop that bullshit. You know what I'm saying?

You know what I mean? And I'll tell you what, look, look, look, look, look. I see you iced out, baby. No, no, no, no. You see you iced out, baby. No, no, no, no. You see you looking good, baby.

You see you looking good. I'm going to do that part. I'm going to do that part. Right. But look, this is what this is. Let me show everybody. This is the first time I'm wearing this. Oh, that's fire.

See what that say on it? That's fire, yeah. Listen, man, I got, my heart is filled with creativity and love. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Right. Whoever DJ Chicken Fingers is, we need to just put it in the rear view. Yeah, let's leave it alone.

If they want to continue or not, that's, you know what I mean? I'm here to get, I'm here to create and be creative. You know what I'm saying? You know, and as far as anything with, let's, you know, just put it on the table. As far as anything with Tribe, you know, like, that's where I started. You know what I'm saying? Hell yeah. You know, it's a big year for everybody, one way or the other, you know.

They're getting inducted into the Hall of Fame, correct? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, so my first music is going into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. You know what I'm saying? I mean, because as the group and Roll Hall of Fame. You know what I'm saying? I mean, because as the group goes, the catalog goes. You know what I'm saying? So, you know what I mean? I'm on build.

I'm not here to destroy. I can. I do like to play with explosives from time to time. But, you know, other than that, I'm here to build. You know what I'm saying? Good. Can you and Ty Liv ever squash it?

You want to just say Ty Liv is DJ Chicken Fender. That's what you want to get at. That's what's on your soul. That's on your soul. That's on your soul. It's on your soul. It's on your soul.

I can't front. Y'all can't let it go. I mean, look at that. Come on, man. Let's reconcile. Let's imagine the beats here. Listen, listen, listen. We don't need to have

no more beats, man. What is there for me? First off, how do y'all... I made this. Wait, wait. Listen, listen, listen We don't need to have No more beefs, man What is there for me First off I made this Wait, wait Listen, we're going to do this shit again Let's talk to him, right? Let's go, let's go

I made this I designed this for Icebox You think I'm thinking about Anybody who got barbecue sauce Anywhere in their vicinity I'm not I'm chilling You know what I'm saying?

At the end of the day That's my job Is to be chilling Shout out to Rob McDaniel Queenie's legend That's my job Is to be chilling Shout out to Rob McDaniel Queen's legend That's right We just came

I just came back From Queen's Day ATL Right I just came from China Right I just came from The B-Mac Gala I'm doing that type of shit

Right You understand Right You know like I just You know what I did do though I'm going to tell you What I did do Okay

I actually Had a conversation Where I killed From Rex and Effect About the tribe beef That's what I did Oh wait did do okay i i actually had a conversation where i killed from rex in effect about the tribe beef that's what i did oh wait wait you gotta explain that for people remember he came out with the patch on right so we talked about that last time right so coincidentally this is a blessing right i go to china i decided to go to LA because I got the album out. Let me go do my West Coast press run because I was supposed to just,

I was supposed to schedule it. I got, you know, Ye asked me to pull up. I said, boy, so I'm going to just kill two birds with one stone. Fly 15 hours to Hong Kong. Go do that shit.

And then I swung back as a stopover. We do the press in LA. So I did a couple other podcasts and did some freestyles. And I was literally just going to go

get something to eat. I was like, let me go look at a sushi menu. I walk into a situation where a man is giving a toast to what's coming next. So I'm literally standing on these stairs and shit and i'm at the bottom

of stairs and at the top there's a man giving a toast i'm like what the fuck is this right and so one uh another individual turns around and it's kenny burns you know i'm saying i'm like you know give me that right so then the the gentleman doing the toast turned around and said, yo, Peace Consequences, pleasure to meet you. Right. Now, I never met this gentleman before. All right. So once he concludes the toast he was given, they all start sitting there for dinner. Because the restaurant happens to have an indoor and an outdoor area.

So they're all in the outdoor area. And they bought it out, apparently. Right? So I'm still looking for a menu. Right? And so as I'm about to walk in the restaurant, I bump into Johnny Nunez. Johnny Nunez is like, yo, come take a picture with Flavor Flav. The fuck is Flavor Flav doing here?

Right? So I end up taking a picture with Flavor Flav. The fuck is Flavor Flav doing here? Right? So I end up taking a picture with Flavor Flav and shit. So we talking and shit and I got a record with Chuck D that's going on the deluxe version of the album. So I was explaining the Flavor. I'm like, yeah, I just did a record with Chuck. And she's like, where, where? It's like, yeah. I'm like, so then I turn around and we're taking another picture and here's Aqil. He's like, Johnny New Year's like let me get you

where I kill and I haven't seen our kill since any of that happened you know what I'm saying so I'm like oh shit cause the last thing the last page

it was was it was apparently it was squashed between like the Zulu nation Zulu got involved right

yeah but I never I didn't go to the meeting I was maybe like at I was maybe 14 or 15 when that shit happened you know what I'm saying

so my my other cousins had went with Tip um so so we speak and for

I just was like let me break the ice with him and I was like I asked him I was like yo I asked him, I was like, yo, I know you from Harlem. You probably know my grandfather. He's like, who's your grandfather?

I'm like, Slim Turner. He's like, Slim is your grandfather? Like, yeah. So apparently, long story short, my grandfather was probably like top 10 street kings in Harlem. And I mentioned him last time I was up here. But I didn't, I didn't, he's grandpa to me. I never got it from a third party. You know what I'm saying?

So I'm like, so he calls my grandpa's lieutenant, who's like my uncle, to confirm. He's like, yeah. So he puts Chucky on the phone. And I'm like, yo, why you ain't tell me you knew, son? Like, yeah, I didn't know because the whole situation with the beef. So then literally me and Akeel just ran through everything that happened. You know, he mentioned the Prince Poe thing. And I think Prince Poe had made a video I saw.

Organized confusion? Yeah, he was organized confusion yeah he was upset about my drink champs interview because I said he got jumped and that's how the way the story came after me so

Akeel actually confirmed that I guess one of his mans from Posse Deep had had swung on Prince Poe because I guess

he's saying he was inebriated or whatever this is Akeel's words not mine so like I said long long story short, it was just really great to, like, flush it out. Put that behind you.

Like, closure on that. Just really get closure to it. Akil's like, yo, he's, like, probably, like, a person I would have always dealt with. He just, like, this. That nigga's a cool-ass nigga. He told me to send love to Tip and Ali and Jerobe. And so, you know, we just want to salute Akeel and Brex and Effect

and their contribution to the game as well. Because that's what I'm always thinking. Like, one thing I've noticed about you and Tyleb online. It's on your phone. It's on your phone. I get it, though. I get it, though. No, no, no.

It was like legendary air out. It really was. It was legendary your soul. It's on your soul. I get it, though. I get it, though. No, no, no. It was like legendary air out. It really was. It was legendary air out. It's cool, though. You felt like venting that day for sure. And to tell you the truth, to tell you the truth, like, y'all funny. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm funny.

I don't know what he be doing, bro. I don't know what you call that shit. I'm funny, and I don't get my page taken away from doing funny shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm funny. He was more like, I don't know, I mean, I guess some of the shit was like, you know, it's like,

there's no substitute for the corner, man. If you wasn't on the corner, you just wasn't on it. Right? You can eventually make it right. Right? Because no one went too far. Yeah, it's not that serious. No one went too far. It did?

He put my son's mother on his page. Come on, bro. Oh, boy. Would you let a man put your wife on his page? Yeah, I didn't see that part. I didn't see that part. You know what I'm saying? And threw my son in the mix.

Come on, man. Like, yo, nah, man. Okay, I didn't see that part. You know what I'm saying? And the fact that he was doing Something unapologetically Is like Listen hurt people Hurt people

That's true All that shit started Right here Well at the other At the other spot Y'all forgot about that You and Ty Liv No you and Ty Liv

No no no the whole thing It started when Kanye Oh yeah It started with Kanye Oh my god No but y'all You and Ty Liv Didn't start

Because of the hat No he did He's No, but y'all, you and Tyler, did it start because of the hat? No, he did. He's saying it all started with the first Kanye episode. Right. What? It all started, yeah, man. I don't, I,

listen, what reason? Y'all should have been going so long. I forgot. I mean, think about how long ago that episode was. I think y'all were like the Bluds and Cricks out there. Like, damn near three years ago.

So automatically because I get bread with yay I had something to do with it right I wasn't here when Kanye did that episode I wasn't here for that

you know what I'm saying and the thing what really made me angry was that he didn't even know what space me and Kanye was in but he automatically

was like I'm Kanye Ghostwriter online and all that yo bro you fucking with my W-9. Chill out. I don't got nothing to do with none of that.

And even to the point where, you know, like, Tribe got involved and all that. Like, I had to speak with Q-Tip and all that. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, his feelings was hurt over there. And rightfully so. I mean, you know what I'm saying? Like, if you tip and you looking at, like, you're like, damn, why? Konse would say anything about us.

But the thing was, like, homie was reaching for every straw. Like, yo, let me just, with no regard for nothing. You know what I'm saying? And then it turns around because I'm successful. I figured shit out. Oh, you a demon. You on demon time with the family. No, I'm not.

I'm just, I'm on demon time over Kaden. That's who I'm on demon time over. Like, nigga, you gonna see two horns, three of them. Like, that's how I give it up over my son. You know what I'm saying? Like, you got, because the thing is like, when it was just, oh, you ghost write for Kanye. I let it rock. Say whatever you want.

I mean, at the end of the day, Kanye ghost wrote for you. He gave you the hook to get by you didn't write he didn't write it wow so we all

lend collaborate you want to take credit for ghost writing do it you want to say I'm a ghost writer cool

you know what I'm saying but he but the funny thing was like it's it's deeper than that it's like I never got sent

no Yeezys. Your laugh is the worst, though. It's his face, man. You saying Ty Liv said that? That he never got sent no Yeezys? Come on, cause. You taking this shit too far. Come on. Yo, do you understand how niggas feel about shit like that?

Rap niggas is worse than women, bro. Yeah, I do see that. When it comes to certain bitch ass nigga shit, man. It be like, I remember somebody said to me one time, we was in a session in the Tribe days. You didn't order me no food. I'm really feeling you for that. I'm like, nigga, I starved you want to say i starved i starved to get on bro right i don't you've been eating you were ordering your own fucking food nigga i look like your assistant

you know i'm saying so it's like shit like that when niggas be carrying a grudge like i ain't nigga never sent me a box right i don't got no merch you know i'm saying and and and that shit compounds into when niggas start doing inventory on the relationship where it'd be like yeah but i brought yay out on tour and listen even when i spoke to uh to quality the first time before there was any shake with it. You know what I'm saying? I felt where he was coming from. I did feel like that was a, he got snuffed when, when he didn't expect to hear that.

Oh, the baseball hat. Okay. No, there wasn't the baseball hat was the, the baseball hat was more Dave Chappelle. All right. Okay.

Hitting him off about that. Okay. I'm a rapper. I know what hurt Kweli. What hurt Kweli was the fact that he said, I never fucked with your raps. Oh, yeah. That was Agent Orange.

Right. You know what I'm saying? That's what made that nigga's skin go fucking. You know what I'm saying? That nigga was like, yo. And they did records together, too. So that means y'all was in the studio together this whole time. Right.

Right. You know what I'm saying? the studio together this whole time. Right, right. You not liking my shit. Right, you know what I'm saying? I can see how that hurt. Right, when you get that hurtful truth, you get that hurtful truth. That's like if you break a whip with your broad and she tell you, after all this time, I wasn't really fucking with you like that. It puts you in an Alfred Hitchcock movie. You're like, where am i this

bitch don't fuck with me you know i'm saying so it's like he had to reconcile that then he had then he came back here right quality came back here they saw each other they saw each other something they saw each other and i just the thing about this is why i said there's no substitute for the corner because i cannot not press you after you do me like that. Right, right. Ain't no motherfucking way we're going to sit here and do a photo op after you told niggas you don't fuck with me out loud. Right, right. That's what I'm saying.

You sitting there asking me like, yo, y'all can't. I mean, that's an industry tactic. Can y'all put it to bed? You know what I'm saying? I'm going to put it to bed on Linden Boulevard with no nigga name. No, but we got examples of that. We got a good example

with Drake and Meek Mill. They put it behind them. We got a good example of that with Nas and Jay-Z. They put it behind them. All those is industry. All those is industry instances. Yeah, but you and Carly

is both in the industry. I just want you to know that. Which industry though? I don't know. It just want you to know that. Which industry though? Yeah. I don't know. It's the same industry, bro. I don't use... Right.

Let me show. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to get started, but I'm going to go slow. Listen, we are both in the industry. Right. But the thing is, once again,

I gave an industry concession about the ghostwriting part. Right, right. You start bringing my family into this, then I'm from Queens. Right, right. We not doing this no other way but the way we do it. You know what I mean? I told niggas before, it's Queens get the money.

Not Queens play no games. Right. But, and I'm going to switch the subject after this. What money do I get with a nigga DJing for Chicken Fingers? Wow, damn. It's Chicken Fingers shit, bro. I want to know what DJ Chicken Fingers

is already, man. No, you don't. Barbecue sauce and all that? No, you don't. Sweet and sour. Blue cheese. Chick-fil-A sauce. Do they got the,

what's the shit? The Chinese restaurant? Duck sauce. They got duck sauce. Not for this. Yeah. So, where. Not confident. Yeah. So, where was you at when you heard that, you know, Tribe Called Quest got accepted in the Hall of Fame?

You know, there's so many legendary groups from Queens, so many legendary groups from hip-hop that probably never get recognized like that. Not even from our own people or people that's outside being recognized in the Hall of Fame I mean well I mean you know this is the they have been nominated prior yeah you know like I had spoke up about it because I felt like it was starting to get to a point where they were just being like just inserted in it and not giving a fair chance cuz you know like the whole thing is a popularity contest right Right. You know what I mean? Right.

And, you know, so I think when it hit the wire, I mean, I think I saw it on my phone and, you know, I reached out to Tip and was just like, congrats. You know what I'm saying? That's a big accomplishment. We got to give it to him. Yeah, man. Thank you. available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser-known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best-selling author and meat-eater founder Stephen Ranella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age

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And how many albums you was a part of with Tribe? Two. Two. Fire. Yeah, so, you know, that's why I treated myself to this because at the end of the day, you know, I'm all about hard work paying off, you know what I'm saying? And so, you know, this for me, this the Ula Fala right here.

You know what I'm saying? This made me the chief, nigga. That's right. What do you think life would have been like if Fife would have been still here? I mean, me and him would have been busting it up. You know what I mean? Definitely.

That's my nigga. Rest in peace to him. You know what I'm saying? That's why we, you know, I shouted him out's my nigga rest in peace to him you know what I'm saying that's why we you know I shouted him out on the chase part 3 on a new album and shit

that's my nigga like you know me and Phyfe was a likes you know what I mean as far as like cause that whole thing

is like this like Phyfe would have definitely told me to take Kweli head off facts facts you know what I'm saying and I wish Phyfe

would have been here you know what I mean just to really have that you know I wish Phyfe would have been here, you know what I mean? Just to really have that conversation. I wish I could have had that conversation with him about Akeel, you know what I'm saying? Because those are the defining moments in our history. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, Phyfe is with the shits.

He's definitely competitive like a motherfucker. Yeah, he's with the shits. You know what I'm saying? And he loved Kaden. Like, you know, like, I'm just happy that, you know, they got to take a flick and we got to link with him

before, you know, his untimely. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, he was watching my son online and, yo, I want to coach Kaden because he was seeing him. He was starting to play basketball. You know what I'm saying? He would definitely have been super proud of what Kaden has been able to accomplish um you know I'm I'm friends with Zeno right Benzino and I remember back in the days when he had the source magazine right he was pushing his son so hard so many people were like giving him backslash like ah right uh some people

was saying hey man you didn't get it for your own career so you're trying to get it for your your son or some people were saying like you're exploiting your son or some people was saying, hey, man, you didn't get it for your own career, so you're trying to get it for your son. Or some people were saying, like, you're exploiting your son. Or some people was like, is that something that, because you go hard for your son. You know what I'm saying? Is that something that in the background people critique you for? Let me ask you something. You see anybody white get that? What you said?

Anybody white get that? White get what? Anybody, any white person get it? Oh, if a white person puts their children. Yeah, if a white person puts their children, do you hear anybody object get that? White get what? Any white person get that? Oh, if a white person pushes their children. Yeah, if a white person pushes their children, do you hear anybody object to that? Only Robin Thicke, right? Did anybody object to Robin Thicke? But that's in music.

All right, so that's a great example. Did anybody say, hey, Alan Thicke, you know what's fucked up? You sitting here trying to make sure Robin is straight. They applauded it, probably. They applauded the setup. The thing is, and I'm saying that to say that in other cultures besides the African-American community, nepotism is something that's practiced, applauded, supported. You know what I'm saying? And when we do that, you know, or you're actually a crab trying to get somebody, a baby crab out the barrel. You know what I'm saying and when we do that you know or you're actually a crab trying to get

somebody a baby crab out the barrel you know what I'm saying and for me it's a no brainer why wouldn't

like even if even if Kaden stopped rapping at this point now he should be able to get a job in the music industry as far as like

even if he worked at BMI if he worked as an A&R, because of all the relationships that he's built through his own diligence, you know what I'm saying? And so why are we waiting till our kids get to 18 years old to then make career decisions

or have an inclination of what they want to do? That doesn't really, that doesn't set you up for success. You know what I'm saying? That doesn't put you in a space of being ahead. Like, you know, going to school

is the first tier of the job market. You know what I'm saying? As far as like being graded and on your performance. And so you want to, if you can, why wouldn't you make your kid a Doogie Howser where they actually, you know what I'm saying?

That doesn't take away your cool. That doesn't take away your corner. It just, it actually makes you a smart hustler. You know what I'm saying? Because at this point now. That is generational wealth. Right. That's generational wealth.

You should strive for nepotism if you can be put in that position. Right. To allow nepotism to happen in your family. I want you to be clear. Some of you are going to see this. You're saying you do get backlash for that sometimes. There's backlash online. It's just a

community based on backlash. Everything is backlash. The comment section was made for backlash. You can say, have a great day and there's backlash. You can post a baby. Baby backlash. Everything in the comments section was made for backlash. You can say, have a great day, and there's backlash to that shit. You can post a baby. They're like, I got backlash.

I got baby backlash. Like, how you going to handle a baby? Because it's backlash. I mean, I need my daily dose of backlash. I mean, you know, people just, you know, and don't get me wrong. It's people who's like, yo, I applaud the father you are. I applaud everything that I see you do. do like that shit is amazing to just see you know because people have been literally watching cadence since i was on tv with him you know

i'm saying yeah we love hip-hop so it's like at the end of the day he's you know what warms my heart is when a guy like cory guns does a video with my son and and says yo you are an MC. You are hip-hop. You inspired me to raise my, now that I'm a father, and obviously, you know, Peter Gunz is his dad. And to see that someone who was actually given the same tools

applaud the way that my son is using the tools, I won. I won forever. You know what I'm saying? That's a forever win. You know what I'm saying That's a forever win You know what I mean Come on the teacher Yo it's not like My son is sitting here Playing games

My son is sitting here Zipping it for Karis 1 Like we not This ain't Kids bop You know to that degree Like you know what I mean Like yeah he on TikTok

With 2 million on the radar. We doing that. But we also getting anointed by the teacher. You know what I'm saying? Right. We also getting anointed by DMC. Like, my son, in addition to being able to do Jersey Club and drill, he also understands the fundamentals like he understand the order of respect like you know like he understood like i explained to him like yo dmc is like the first

superstar ever like some historical context to what you're doing right yeah yeah yeah because that's the hip-hop part of this like you know i'm saying it is rap and then it's hip-hop you know hip-hop is more the culture, and especially with our legacy, you know, I teach him the value of that so that he understands who these players are. Even, like, when he met Ralph, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, Ralph has supported my son

since he started rapping. He was like, yo, come bring him this. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's priceless. I can't pay for that. I watched Video Music Box as a child. I used to come home and literally park up you know i mean like so for for him to be like yo i feel what k is doing like come on man like your bra i'm a hitter win man i i don, I do not fool with chicken fingers. Hey.

If they asked you right now, I know I asked you this before, but would you do Love & Hip Hop again? I don't think, is that a thing anymore? I mean, a check is a thing. No, I'm just saying is that actually, I don't, I'm not, excuse my ignorance, I don't have time. I believe it is. It is? I believe it is. It's definitely not in New York.

No, I believe it's in Atlanta. I mean, I'm always open to talking to Mona. She's always been a good friend of mine. You know what I'm saying? I don't think Mona got anything to do with it anymore. As a matter of fact, they're out, right? I believe. Yeah, you're actually right.

I believe she's out of it. Can they take the words hip-hop out of it now? It's not hip hop, man. No, it's bullshit. Yeah, it's just a franchise. It's loving some shit or loving the industry. It's a franchise. It's a franchise like McDonald's at this point.

You know what I'm saying? I mean, they made their money. You know what I'm saying? I mean, yeah. I mean, if that's the case, you know, I don't know. I'd rather do my own show with my son. I would do that. Because, you know

one thing i always say me and him always say on this show is like i always say sign to a major right so you'll get that fame because they can't take that fame back right right you know what i mean what is that something that would love a hip-hop did that help you as far as like for me it's temperamental like you know like sometimes it's a great thing sometimes it's a thing where it's just like you know

I just gave too much you know what I mean like it just you know it's not something I wanted necessarily to bring it to the future with me

you know what I'm saying especially since it doesn't pay anymore you know you know it's like the way that deal is structured too it's just like me having to hear shit for nothing you know, it's the way that deal is structured too.

It's just like me having to hear shit for nothing. You know what I mean? It's not cool. That part ain't cool. So that's why I said, like, for me, you know, the front end versus the back end, this is just a lot of business with that. You know what I'm saying? That's why for me at this point, I just would rather just do a new project with my son.

Yeah, that's a dope concept. How did you feel about doing it? Did you feel it? Oh, I just would rather just do a new project with my son. Yeah, that's a dope concept. How did you feel about doing it? Did you feel it? Oh, I wanted to keep going. Oh, so you wanted to keep going? Yeah,

let me hit pop. So what happened? Because I was boring. They didn't want to keep paying me for doing nothing. I wasn't fighting. I thought you turned it down. Right.

Nah, nah, I just kept, I wasn't going to lower my feet, but I wasn't, I wasn't, I know I wasn't delivering. They wanted to see me,

like, like, constantly have a fight with Joe Buttons and shit like that. And, like, you know what I mean? Yo, his Segway game is sinister, yo. It's sinister. Yo, that's what they be wanting.

And, you know, if you don't deliver... I basically just brought him the drink champs. Yeah, I brought him the drink champs. And I got, yeah, it's very true it was smart and they were using the b-roll they were all happy it was cross promoting

it was dope and then it was crazy because we was using their loving hip hop artists we was using Trina who they already paying already we was using Trick

who they already paying but I would definitely do it I would definitely so what's next for you one on two records we got so we going straight up the album no we got the album already but we got but So what's next for you? One on two records. So we going straight up?

The album. No, we got the album already, but this is the record label now. It's the record label now. Record label now. Yeah, yeah. So you signed another artist. Yeah, yeah. So I mean, the next project we got, I'm putting out a deluxe version of Nice Doing Business with you.

So that'll be out in a few weeks. And then we got me and Kata's collab album. Collab album. Yeah yeah we doing that in November yeah we got some shit on here we ain't have one like that since Baby and Little Wayne but they're not really father and son

they're real father they're real McCoy so we got that coming then we got Kaden's solo album coming and then next year you know we gonna

I'm gonna definitely sign like two or three artists cause I the thing is just even even with this exercise, it's the start of a snowball. But, you know, what I am proud of is that I've been able to, like, chart and playlist and go on Amazing Press Run, you know, get some of my bucket list freestyles off, you know.

So it's been amazing. Like, it's the most tired I've probably ever been in my life, though. I ain't going to lie. This shit is like... Independence, so you got to do it all. Yeah, so I'm like literally the CEO calling the shots and approving budgets and, you know, and not approving shit and, you know, but I'm a perfectionist when it comes to certain aspects of things.

So like we got one cover and just don't get the pussy wet like that i need the other one and you know so it's a it's a it's a very meticulous process for me you know i'm saying being being how you work right how i work you know i'm saying because the kids because remember you know like even when i do minutes with you this is my my forever product this is the one that I know people are going to circle back. And I just wanted it to be right. I spent a lot of time on it. I had delays and shit.

Because I was venturing into new territory. You know what I'm saying? My prior experiences were me being signed and someone paying me. And now I'm the person with the budget and the person with the, who people are answering to. And, you know, it's, but it's the place I wanted to be. It's the place that, it's age appropriate for me. Like, I don't need to be a worker at this point. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Unless, you know, unless it's like a situation, like you said, like if the money makes sense to work for somebody else's right um tv show then yeah we're not opposed to to getting money ancillary money or whatever the case is but it has to be a foundation laid you know what i'm saying so that you know years from now kate don't want to sign somebody he has that that that component in his life to do so he could just be like yo dad at once my man get busy yo let's let's see if we can spin them out you know what i'm to sound somebody. He has that component in his life to do so. He can just be like, yo, dad, I want my man.

Get busy. Yo, let's see if we can spin him out. You know what I'm saying? So it's a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful situation. And it's cataloged

that's not tied up to any record labels. It's your own. Yeah, it's all new shit. I could do a pub deal. I'll not do one. It's, you know, like the No Apologies record

spun out and tell Kanye, get that nigga high five. Yo, nigga, good looking. Word. That's that one right there. You know what I mean? And even with, you know,

like his contribution on Bloodstained, like, you know, it was just just a great space. You know, we had to elbow for it. You know what I'm saying?

But anything you want in life, you're going to have to, you know what I mean? You know, really push to elbow for it. You know what I'm saying? But anything you want in life, you're going to have to, you know what I mean, you know, really push the envelope. Right. Now, I believe we spoke about this before, but you ain't got that famous documentary where it's all this old footage of y'all. Right. Did that ever get, like, you know, y'all ever, like, worked that out?

Listen to Love You So on my new album. I spoke about it. Okay. So it's worked out. I saw Cootie out in public. Oh, you saw him? Because he couldn't explain no release form with my name. But how he pulled a fast one in the slow lane was because Sanjay ran for president in his public domain. Damn.

Damn, I should have ate his food. I ain't talking low, man. Yo, it's Queens. Get the money. I ain't playing no games. So you can front if you want. Type tough when you text. I seen the same thing happen between Lighty and X.

I saw Sean Carter call Mo' Deb mommy with threats. Naomi said, shine your light and get the scope. I thought I'd take that to my grave, but boy, the problem in life. I can't say the right shit, I'll let you know. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you write rhymes every day?

Every day. It's like, yeah, Jim rhymes. Right. I was just thinking today, I was like, yo, my next writing cycle is going to be

life-changing for me. It's like, literally, I'm like one way from this. One goes right away from this. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah It's like literally, I'm like one way from this. One goes right away from this. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, but I literally, it's an exercise for me. I do it all for muscle memory

at this point. You know what I mean? I seen you on the LA Lakers, right? Fucking that shit up. I'm looking, and I'm looking for a person that's been doing it for this many years.

Like I'm trying to find a dent in your armor. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like a slip up. And years, like, I'm trying to find a dent in your armor. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, a slip-up. And it's like, I can tell, like, you still do this shit every day. Nah, I'm more, I'm more timing. You know what I'm saying?

Like, yeah, I love this shit. You know what I'm saying? When I don't love it no more, I ain't, I'ma leave it alone. You know what I'm saying? I owe that much to the Ghostwriter. You know what I'm saying? I owe that much to the ghostwriter. You know what I'm saying? Like, I owe the L.A. Leaker freestyle to the ghostwriter.

Like, you know, like, ghostwriting for me is like the story in the holy books where Moses' mother had to give him up so he could go be with Pharaoh's family. You know what I'm saying? So it's like in order to take my art to where i needed to take it i had to let it go right you know and there's a pain with that and that's why god had actually reunited moses with his mom as a caretaker and a breastfeeder so she could still connect with him you know i'm saying and so it's that, like when you hear certain people talk about it, that's kind of like the pain

where it be like, where, you know, because it's like literally giving, it's giving. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of times, it's just a sacrifice at that point. You know what I'm saying?

And so fortunately, like when I get to do the LA League, because that's a that's a reprieve for me you know what I'm saying because sometimes I feel like niggas

don't think I'm nice as shit you know what I'm saying they think because I've worked with this one I've worked with that one that it ain't it ain't me it ain't me

nigga it's me nigga I'll prove it to you niggas though I'm not gonna yell and scream no more i'm just gonna you could showcase it there yeah yeah yeah yeah so you know like so yeah that was uh that was uh that was a necessary for me all right you you ever wrote something for someone that the way that they flowed that the flow that they used for for what you wrote was

nothing that you would have ever done. You were so disappointed in the way they approached it. Nah, that's like busting a nigga out. I ain't going to bust a nigga out. I ain't going to bust a nigga out. You know what I'm saying? I mean, because most of the time I've looked at any of those situations as, also like a compliment to my penmanship. You know what I'm saying? Like for someone that want me to write for them is a compliment.

You know what I'm saying? I mean, especially like when you start getting into the later years, it's like, you know, like he said, like most of our peers, you know what I'm saying? Because I consider Norrie like my peer. I started in 96. He came in 97. So, away from that time period.

Niggas is in the – I don't know if they getting hung dried in the dryer, but they definitely washed. Yep. All right. I don't know if you use Woolite, Clorox, but Beloved. And they don't have the love for the game. Nah, the game make them sick, nigga.

You're too nice of a guy sometimes, man. Sometimes I'll be one of the super thugs. He's long gone, man. He's long gone, but nigga, you know these niggas be outside wars. Stop, Nori. You know niggas be outside wars. Stop, Nori. You know niggas

be outside wars. Niggas ain't going no Louis store. Right, right, right. With wifey. Nigga, I know niggas look at you like, really?

You living this life? Right, right, right. You took CNN and you turning into this? Let me ask you, though. You being from

Queens, right? We just had Ed Lover on. And Ed Lover said the distance of how close Run-DMC was, how close Tribe was, how close Ralph was, Irv Gotti and them, 50 and them, Russell, LL. You think that was a plus, or that more pressure being being from from that area see i'm gonna say this right theoretically it should be a plus right because you actually have uh proof of content but right but also that kind of pressure makes certain niggas fold. Like, it's just too much. The shoes are too big to try to fill.

You know what I mean? Because you just don't have mediocre as an option. And honestly, you might not even have evolution as an option depending on how close you are to any of those individuals. Because niggas will look at it like well since such and such is your peoples what's popping why it ain't happening especially when you throw pillow talking in there don't let no chick from queens tell you no no shit like nigga how come that's your ah and you know you still taking a van or that's supposed to be your this i ain't never see you on video music box you keep telling me you rap don't you nigga where that i want a bag i had nothing to show for this you know i'm saying so yeah i think it's it could be

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4th. Ad free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Because I remember hearing a story, me hearing it back in the days, me and then me actually having him on the show was Mike Geronimo. He was like, he automatically got compared to Nas. And he was telling people, don't compare me to Nas. And it's like, you can't control. I mean, yeah, you can't control.

You can't control the, I've been compared a bunch to a few other individuals. I'm not going to name no names, but you know what I'm saying? I think you can't get caught up in that space. That's the head. That's the head. And, you know, I love Mike. I love Mike. Mike Geronimo, my man.

Shout out to Mike Geronimo and his family. But I think that's what I'm talking about. Like, that head space will cause you to fold. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because then it becomes this thing where you trying to achieve something and you're not factoring in a pivot. Well, if somebody feel like I'm this, I'm going to go make a move over here so you can see me shine like that. You know what I'm saying? And I can always circle back over here because I already started this.

Right. You know what I'm saying? So, like, you know, that's the part where, you know, the industry can actually be your friend if you're not, if you're just dealing with the hood. You know what I'm saying? Because once you get in the industry, you start seeing, like, man, I just. Because the comparisons aren't always negative. Sometimes people are just trying to make sense of something new. Yeah, and people compartmentalize and they categorize for their own sake of understanding, right? So then, you know, if someone says Mike sounds like Nas, it's just because that feels like New York, what they think Queens is.

Right. Which is actually a great thing. Trying to relate things. Because remember, you still could be washed, nigga. Right, right, right. We're going to give you two choices. Yeah. Oh, no, washed, nigga. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. We're going to give you two choices. Yeah.

Oh, no, no, no. You pick one of the choices. Thank you. And nobody, well, Sonny doesn't drink. Right. Okay. If you say both or neither, the PC answers, then he drinks. So.

Usually it would be all of us drinking. So if I make a decisive decision, nobody drinks. And if I'm too scared to say something. Or you genuinely think both of them, you pick both of them, you know, genuinely. And it's not to diss anybody, it's really just to bring up any stories you got with anybody. Right, right. So first one for our rip is common versus most deaf.

Common versus most deaf? Common versus most deaf. In what context? It's whatever. It could be one's cooked better, in your opinion. It could be anything. Better MC, better friend, better whatever. I think I probably would go with Common.

I'd probably have more of a rapport with him. That's an interesting quick time or whatever, just because— Mr. Lee over there, you know? He's by himself. See, this is the thing right now in fairness if i was thinking like quality right this would be my time to shoot most def up right that's your cody right that's what you did to me right that's what you said you you yeah i'm i automatically and you took this quick time you no i automatically you spun the block on this No, I automatically got handcuffed to a situation. So turnabout's fair play, right? But you know what?

What I am happy about with Mos Def is that his daughter is succeeding. I think her name is Layla. And she's got a great fan base developing. And, you, and I probably haven't seen her since she was a child. You know what I'm saying? And so I'm going to just take it to a higher tier and just say, you know, shout him out. But I would say Common just because of the good music. DMX or Tupac? Rest in peace to both.

For the town, DMX. Yeah or Pharrell? No. Wow, man. I'm not on the Louis Vuitton family. You can make Sonny drink. He's got a shot. I ain't on the family.

You can sit deepest. But you know what, though? I'm going to tell y'all a story. Yeah. While we recorded Beach Rhymes of Life, Pharrell was in the studio with us. At that time, he had just done um is it good to you we talked about that last time okay you know i'm saying um and um i actually coached pharrell in the in the booth um when he was laying the verse would be strong in life it didn't make the album but

i think um there's a misconception about how i feel about Pharrell based on when everything kind of exploded between Ye and Pusha T. And I was like, Pusha T is Pharrell's man. I think Pharrell took it like he wasn't my man and I wasn't giving it up like that. What I was trying to say was like their business arrangement is why you know Pusha T, right? So the average person would just say, Pharrell is Pusha T, man. You all right? Now, Pusha T has had a great amount of solo success with Kanye. You know, and I just thought at the time it merited some sort of loyalty.

You know what I'm saying? Like the shit Kanye went through, You know, I just thought at the time it merited some sort of loyalty. You know what I'm saying? Like, like the shit Kanye went through. I don't even know if we're going to ever see no shit like that again in life. You know what I'm saying? And I just thought that sometimes you just don't got to say nothing. You ain't got to sit here and take a picture with the trainer nigga. You know, he the op op what the fuck are we

doing but just to clarify things um yeah i don't um i would have to say both so you're gonna have to drink because i i don't i have a i have history with pharrell and um and he's always been a one-up we never had no... I still, even when I said it, I didn't have it. I didn't have smoke for him. I just was upset about... I'm watching my crew fall apart. And Pusha T part of our crew, too.

But when you single yourself out and say, I'm over here, you know what I'm saying? Then we got to start choosing sides. That's because Pusha's political views you're talking about when when the Kanye's political views then Pusha

distanced himself from Kanye at the time you know what I'm saying I mean I don't know what it got him I don't know if it got him a check

I don't it just it just wasn't no street shit and I'm I always I look at Pusha T like a street nigga unless I'm mistaken

I know he models from time to time too but I look at the nigga Teeth like a street nigga. Unless I'm mistaken. I know he models from time to time too. But I look at the nigga, them niggas make grinding. You know what I'm saying? That's the Nickelback anthem. So I'm going to hold you to that accord. You know what I'm saying? When it turn into some industry shit, for me, it's murky.

I'm just a corner nigga. It don't matter how much money. We all getting money, nigga. Youky. I'm just a corner nigga. It don't matter how much money. We all getting money, nigga. You know what I'm saying? But it's our principalities that have made people respect us one way or not respect us one way or the other. That's my take. Jay or Nas? You got to drink.

Okay. I remember Jay just took a picture with my son that went viral wow and you know and Nas is um Nas is Nas I mean that's Queens

you know I love I'm always loved Nas I mean I was there when he I got the privilege and I say this is a privilege

I got the privilege of seeing him record One Love you know what I mean wow and um you know that's right dude that's tip yeah yeah yeah yeah so you know and now he's always you know I got the privilege of seeing him record One Love. You know what I mean? Wow. That's right, dude.

That's tip. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, he's always, you know, Nas is one of the coolest niggas to me. What? He's a cool nigga, you know what I'm saying? I don't know him. No, I ain't never been on his crib or no shit,

but every interaction I had with the nigga, nigga just cool, you know what I'm saying? So, you know. And Jay inadvertently has been a conduit for my life to change. We're having Rockefeller and me working with Kanye and, you know, me doing the Beyonce record. He was a champion of that. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, when I just seen him at the Fanatic Fest, man, it was just good to see the nigga. Like, sometimes it's just you got to peel back all this industry shit and just fuck with niggas.

You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just a nigga I fuck with. When it ain't no industry politics, Jay-Z, cool ass nigga.

That nigga cool, son. It just be, when business sometimes get involved with niggas and niggas be wanting shit from certain niggas, I don't want, he don't want nothing

from me right now. I don't want nothing from him. It's just good to see that nigga. And that nigga embraced my son, told my son, yeah, I've been watching you get busy. Jay-Z told my son he get busy. Fire.

Fire. You know, to the point where I've seen some shit where niggas like, yo, oh, this little nigga must be in the street playing. Why? Because a street nigga embrace a nigga he see coming from the street. Because Jay-Z a street nigga. As much as he turn uh he turned the corner into the corner office but you don't do that without being a street nigga without being

where we from i think the overall thing is i want to restore the feeling of new york you know i'm saying because that's that's the fertile that's the fertile land you You know what I'm saying? If it's going to ever come back to bars and niggas getting this, that, and the third, yo, New York got to be right too. Last joint. Yep. You got to do the whole thing. Loyalty or respect?

Loyalty. Loyalty. Respect is circumstantial. Respect is circumstantial respect is circumstantial if I can't trust you I don't respect you yeah we all drink to that holla at me

Sonny you were amazing thank you there you go there you go thank you You're amazing. Thank you. There you are. There you are. Hey! Thank you. Thank you. Yes.

Yeah, he does. So is there anybody you never worked with that you would like to work with? Um... We never did a... Wait, no, we did do a song together. We did a joint with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um yeah yeah um that's a good question um I actually want to do a song with uh this this I would say three people I never worked with Eminem I would like to do a

record with Eminem and I would like to also do a record with Mason Cam Mason Cam together oh wow I would like to do that that's that's I would like to do a record with Eminem. And I would like to also do a record with Mason Cam. Together. I would like to do that. I would like to do that. That's something I would like to get into. You think you'd outbar Eminem? Like if y'all go head up, no chorus. I got my money on me in any fight.

I just wanted to hear you say that. I knew you was going to say that. I got my money on me in any fight. You know what I mean? I knew you was going to say that. If I don't, I don't need to even lace up. Right. Is there anybody you'll do a record with that you know you have to come with your A-game?

I did a record with Royce. That's his man. That's his spawn partner. Right, right all right this is up there right you know i mean shout out to roy that's my nigga yeah nah i'm a rapper's rapper i'm not getting nothing fucked up i chase the i chase the money well all these rap niggas know right all of them know right all of them know all i'm listening to my album like fuck this nigga's still going, man. The battery don't fucking die. But it's cool now. But yeah, because the thing is with Eminem, see, those two things are two different areas of my life. Eminem, as far as a nigga who rapped on a corner and rapped against Ron and all that, that nigga want to rap with Eminem.

That version of you. Yeah, the version of me who do the Diamonds and used to be in the tunnel, want to do the record with Mason Cam. You know what I'm saying? That makes sense. Yeah. That's why. Besides your son, is there any new artists that you're listening to?

Yeah. Yeah. And one other thing is I'm actually trying to, with the collab album I'm doing with Kaden, I'm looking to put some of my peoples who never really got the spotlight chance. You know what I'm saying? So I got my man Tory G and Jeffrey Dahmer, the HGs. I'm going to do a record with them. It's so funny. You look up and it's 20 years later, right?

And we got niggas who've already passed. So that's one thing I definitely want to do with the one-on-two shit. It's just definitely one time, even if it's just one record. You know what I'm saying? I feel like it's just my obligation to just put one together where niggas get their shit off. Get their platform. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think it's a few that I got my eye on or whatever, you know what I'm saying?

And I'm always going to be looking, you know what I'm saying? I mean, I think that's what I'm supposed to be doing with it, you know what I'm saying, eventually. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I think that's what I'm supposed to be doing with it. You know what I'm saying? Eventually, you know what I'm saying? Just giving people opportunities and a fair shake. I think it's important for there to be somewhere like,

like I said, in New York. And once upon a time, you could go to Rockefeller office and have a shot to walk out with a check. You could go to G-Unit and have a shot to walk out with a check. You could go to G-Unit and have a shot to walk out with a check. I don't think we really have that anymore in New York specifically. You know what I'm saying? I think that affects the culture.

When you got companies that's thriving in the town, it make everything, or theoretically, it should make everything better. What did you think about the Kendrick and Drake thing? And theoretically, it should make everything better. What did you think about the Kendrick and Drake thing? It was definitely... It was monumental for hip-hop. Monumental. I mean, I think it changed the temperature as far as people listening and paying attention to bars this year.

You know what I'm saying? Because you had to really listen and engage. Dissecting lyrics. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Triple entendres. I definitely think that the reason why, I think one of the reasons why Kendrick is doing the Super Bowl is because of the beef. You know what I'm saying? I just think that pop-out concert, probably the biggest concert we saw online. You know what I'm saying?

And I know that there was a controversy with Wayne not doing it, but I think they kind of gave it to Kendrick. He was chilling. You know what I'm saying? He was having his children and, you know, doin' that. And I think that first person shooter record just shook the table too hard, you know what I'm sayin'? And, you know, unfortunately, J. Cole got it,

but like, listen, Doughboy, let me out. We gon' get out right here, beloved. Yeah, yeah, he got out the whip immediately. Get out right here, son son this is right here same for me my pops is in the crib with the stress balls going crazy we going right but but the reason i brought up the china show and and i wasn't really trying to bring up adidas for the business part of that but from the reports it just it seems like that town adidas right now huh because you got on adidas i fucked with ad? Because you got on Adidas right now. Oh, I fucked with Adidas.

I'm lifelong. I'm one of those lifers with Adidas. But I heard that that entire town, that's the most money they made from tourism. Right. That they already booked them for another show. I'm just saying the power of hip hop, that's what I really wanted to focus on. Right. Because I think sometimes nationally here we think we think just nationalistic just us us we stop we forget about how big it is overseas the impact it has overseas good and

bad like we got to understand and the the economy around that like that's just powerful what would what it look like at least yeah it was definitely powerful because at the end of the day like i said this is my it was my first time going to china and you know you have preconceived notions because of what you're supposed to be an adversary of ours of the right right right you have a preconceived notion them i'm saying bro i'll tell you they not think about us they have not think of it they doing they doing them yeah you know i'm saying they doing them the same you know yeah they they in asia so yeah there's probably tigers somewhere but I ain't seen nothing I seen

people tiger right no no I think of that shit you know what I mean Van Damme and all that shit you know what I'm saying Van Damme

yeah you went with all stereotypes I'm just saying I mean this is the perpetuation of DJ Chicken Fingers is right yeah there gotta be

somebody over here with four chicken wings stuck in their mouth like when people dig in Africa they think of the jungles right right right right right right but so you don't you you don't what you don't factor in is how where they're at with technology and where they're at with society and culture and art and all those things that those human things that that we take for granted here in the States. They have their own

boogie and it's dope. You know what I mean? Riding the scooters. It's a dope vibe over there. It was well worth the trip actually. Dope. You went to China on your...

No, Vietnam, which is dope. Super dope. And mind you, a country we went to war on your no Vietnam which is dope it's dope super dope and mind you a country we went to war with and basically lost right and nah it was dope

and hip hop is thriving in these countries right right right thriving and the thing is they're disconnecting from us

where they used to we used to be the ones that led the way for them they're kind of disconnecting already and they got it they figured it out that's what i'm alluding to like they basically you thinking they need to be fed they they they're they're the feeder yeah i'm saying and they got the numbers to yeah like i got pictures like where i was just in awe and inspired

like the buildings like they got i drove some past some shit that look like you could literally they like they literally took the shit out of ve past some shit that looked like you could literally, like, they literally took the shit out of Vegas and put it here. You know what I'm saying? Like, that shit is lit. It's lit over there, bro. And they revere the culture. Yeah, and I, yo, and as a Queens nigga, I had to have some real chicken fried rice,

and I got it. I had some fried rice. I had official fried rice. That shit was better than the shit in the hood. Let's just take some pictures, man. Get in. Come on. Drink Champs is a Drink Champs LLC production, hosts and executive producers, N-O-R-E and DJ E-F-N.

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