Drink Champs - Episode 443 w/ Vybz Kartel

Episode Date: February 23, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the one and only, Vybz Kartel!Vybz sits down with the champs and talks about everything.Top 5 artist, Grammy nominations, King of Dancehall, Kendrick Vs. Drake, etc. We covered it all in this episode!Lots of great stories that you don’t want to miss!iRossta & Mike Booth join us as special guest hosts. Make some noise for Vybz Kartel!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more: 🏆* https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What up? It's DJ E-F-N. And this is Militant Crazy War. Yappy hour. Make some noise! When we started this show, we started it saying we wanted to pay respect to icons, to legends, to people, the mans of the people. When I tell you, when we started this show from the beginning, they said, get this man. This man is like Jesus.

He is dominated the world of dance hall. Didn't took a hiatus for 13 years they came back and went even in the 13 years he remained his spot did he come home he sell out madison's great garden times too every man come there every man bow they call him the world boss. Gaza. And right now, we are here to salute and to pay respect. Give him his flowers while he here. The one,

the only, Bob's Cartel! Now, Bob, you guys were once a part of a group. It was a group called Bob's Cartel, correct? Yes, it was three of us. But I was the best one, so. Dwindled down to one.

Yeah, dwindled down to one. Big up Escobar, big up Miss Sally. Because who got you into music? I heard it was your uncles who got you in the music. Yeah, I used to watch them DJ. You know what I mean? They were like up and coming artists. Like I said, I was the best one.

So you'll never hear of them. Oh, even your uncles? Yeah, better than them. Oh, okay. But they inspired me. Like seriously though, like they got me interested in the art form. You know what I mean? Just watching people flowing on beats.

That was crazy for me as a kid. Like, Bum Buc-la. You know, and that's when I got interested. Right. We got that Jay-Z clip. I want to play it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Cypher sound.

My bad, my bad. Yeah, with J&P. I want to show you this. Cypher from New York. I'm preaching, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, man, I Cypher sounds. The Cypher sounds. Yeah, with J&P. I want to show you this. Cypher from New York. I'm pretty sure, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they had them cool like that. Yeah.

It just didn't happen. It just didn't pop off like that. I almost had Vibes Cartel on Rock'n'Roll. Forget it. Back then. I mean, the fucking Vibes Cartel was around back then. Yo, Vibes. I've never truly listened to Vibes Cartel.

Of course. I was down in there with Adam. I almost had him on. Oh, yeah. We tried three different hooks. I've never truly listened to Vibes Cartel. Of course. I was in Jamaica. I almost had him on. Oh, yeah. We tried three different hooks. Really? Yeah.

Oh, which song? Somewhere. I need to know. Yeah, I know. Where they at? S3, though? Yeah. Who has them?

Wow. He couldn't come in. He sent them? No, he was there. He came to rock the mic. Oh. Fives Cartel? Yes. I think he's talking about, Jay-Z talking about Movado.

Nah, he said you. But what year was that? Because remember, they took my visa years ago, like 05. Yeah, he might be talking about then. Well, they were mentioning that you couldn't come. That's what they were saying. That's why Cypher asked him twice, like, are you sure? Yeah, like 05. Yeah, he might be talking about then. Well, they were mentioning that you couldn't come. That's what they were saying. That's why Cypher asked him twice. Yeah, you're right.

He did ask him that, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, man, Cypher, that's my brethren. I've known him for years. Nigga called me one day, Cartel, how come you've been speaking for two years and I've never met you? Are you a myth?

What the fuck? Yeah, shit, it was crazy, man. Yeah, but Cypher is a brethren. Big up Cypher. speaking for two years and I've never met you. Are you a myth? What about? It was crazy, man. Big up Cypher. In Cypher's defense, since I've heard of you, it's like a myth that comes with you. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm the other day hanging out with

one of my Jewish friends. My Jewish friend told me, he said, it's in Jamaica. This is what he said that his friend said. He said, it's Jesus, Bob, and advice. And KFC. And KFC. Yo, do you realize how many people love you? Like, every artist that I've ever interviewed, right?

I go to Twitter and I say, I got this artist to come, so you got questions. With you, I'm not even playing with the fans because they'll be all in my comments. Do you realize how popular you are? Yeah, man, of course. Right. But like I said, I put in the work, you know what I mean? And I keep it are? Yeah, man, of course. Right. But like I said,

I put in the work, you know what I mean? And I keep it real, right through like Nigel. So I just sing my truth. Right. And people just like that about me. Right.

Yeah. How was the Grammys? It was amazing. I've never been there before. Right. You know what I mean? And just got out of prison six months ago.

That's crazy. And now I'm walking in the red carpet. Yes. Yeah. Joy. That's a blessing, man a blessing you want to say ross no i'm saying um i know we talked about vibes cartel the name but before that you were at adi bantam i'm still at the bottom buddha bantam is my favorite dance all artists right like he inspired me yeah man buddha bantam and ninja

man my two favorites right i got that written down There was a concert one time when you was Young Vibes and Buju grabbed the mic from you. What happened there? Nothing happened, that's Buju Banton man. You know what I mean? I mean I was angry and happy at the same time. Like what the fuck? Yeah. Yeah, man. I put you that far. Funny enough, he gave me one of the most profound, how would I put it now, advice in the industry. Because back then when I just came out, I used to flow very hard. You know what I mean?

And a lot of times it went over people's heads, especially the older fans. Because I was just coming out. And Bujibantan was like, And that's when I think I found that balance between the art and commerce. Because we still need our shit to be sold, right? We still need people to... Yeah, so big up Bujibantan for that. But yeah, I be sold, right? Right, right. We still need people to, yeah, so, we got Bujibantan for that.

But yeah, I'm still Adibantan, man. Yeah. Now, I'm going to be honest with you. I've seen a guy on the internet have this liquor and say, this shit would be illegal. Yeah.

It's dangerous. It's dangerous. Yes, man. It's dangerous. So, let's describe to people which one is this. Oh, this is the rampant shop. That's the record where you got your spice. Oh, this is the Rampant Shop.

That's the record you got when you were Spice? Yeah, me and Spice. Because we named each flavor from one of my hit songs. You know what I mean? This is the electric. This is Dangerous as well. But my favorite one is this. Fever.

Fever. That's more like the... 63%. But it's smooth. It's like vodka. You say 63%? Yeah. Here on your chest.

Yeah, exactly. It takes air off your chest, too. This is crazy, man. This. Fever. And which one is that one? Oh, this is the Unstoppable. Okay.

And you can't let any of it spill because it's unmappable. I've never heard of that. That's how dangerous this one is. These two, fire. This one is mostly for the ladies. The ladies, okay. And this, anyone can have that. But trust me, I recommend the fever and the unstoppable.

Katsa, tell me something. See how you just said unstoppable and un-moppable? Since when you start being a DJ like that in your mind and you always play with your lyrics? Yeah, I always play with words. Always play. You know this. Yes, yes, yes.

You know what I mean? At what age? Since I was born, man. It's also a Jamaican thing. We love to rhyme. It's like every kid on a street corner in New York wants to be a rapper. It's the same thing in Jamaica.

You either want to run from the cops as well, or you want to do music. You know what I mean? So those are not the only thing, but you know, ghetto style. Yeah, and the Garrison. What is it, Summertime in the Portmore? Yeah, that song. Yes, but can you describe Portmore for me? I mean, it's just outside Kingston.

So it's not in Kingston? No. Okay. You got to cross the bridge. Okay. So it's like Jersey, New York. Or Long Island? Yeah, yeah.

Long Island, okay, okay. Because we are still very much intertwined culturally and everything. Most people in Portmore at the time went to school in Kingstonston he worked in kingston so we are basically a twin city right and how was the last i grew up how was life in waterford rough can you describe that in any i mean i grew up like six of us right you know i mean six kids six kids my parents had six of us in one room, at one point on one bed, ghetto lifestyle. But for me, I wouldn't change how I was raised because it made me who you are now.

Tough, determined, unwilling to go back there. You know what I mean? So yeah, man, big up Waterford, Portmore, Empire Way. And you said your uncles were inspiring you to do music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were from Kingston.

Right. So they used to come to my mom's house like on Sundays where my dad had this thing set up. Turn tabby. You know those

vinyl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. With the needle. Yeah, so. And they used to string the mic up and DJ.

Right. They lived in Kingston. Waterhouse. Right. Yeah, yeah. That's where I was born. So big up Waterhouse as well.

So let me just go straight up and ask you. Mm-hmm. Who's the king of the dance hall? Vibes Cartel. Don't get it twisted because you have to remember, Beanie's a legend and he was king. Right. The same way George was king, now we have Charles.

You know what I mean? These things come and go. Just like life, we're here now, few years from now we gone. So currently speaking, you know what I mean, as said by Billboard, as said by the fans, Rolling Stones, you know what I mean, I just gotta tell her the king.

The numbers is there to prove it, as it relates to dancehall, the love is there. Impact is there right the influence is there right so i mean what's more left to be said right one king yeah and one thing i commend you for is you never i haven't heard you talk bad on beanie ever you always pay respect to him he needs a big inspiration to vibes you just hit the ground you just hit the grammys and you still paid him respect that's my top five i told you you, Bounty, Beanie, Pujo, Ninja Man, Pipe's Got Talent. That's it.

But I read a lot of the comments, and a lot of the comments were saying that's the reason why you are the king, is because of your humbleness. You could use that opportunity and say something wrong or say something bad about him. Oh, no, no. God is the greatest, man. God is the greatest. But the old you wouldn't have been like that.

No. is the greatest man that is the greatest but the old you wouldn't have been like that no no but you know me you live and you learn right right you want some people you want some people you want something oh you're offering me but i need a talk though Yeah yeah yeah She's gonna hook you up Ice or whatever Ice Ice please So is this something Half white cranberry Ooh white Red Red

Okay Okay Yeah that's cool Thank you I'm a little hated I've never heard of white cranberry Now I've never heard of it

You know what I mean It's an amazing drink Now is that a Jamaican drink Or is that It's universal Oh okay Where you taking it love Yeah

No keep No I like to see Where my liquor is made Yeah that's right Make it over here That's right I respect that Jamaican

Y'all want to drink man Y'all want to drink So when you were locked up What was the most thing That you missed more Because I was about to say Recording or performing But you got to record in jail.

But did you miss performing? I mean, I didn't get to record. I had to figure out how to record. Yeah, because I ain't going to lie. Whatever iPhone you got is good. 5S. Good for recording. It's good for recording, the 5S.

How many albums you recorded in jail? A lot. I mean, we did Viking, which is now re-released. 10th anniversary. Congratulations. We did King of the Dancehall, which Fever is on. Right. That sold gold.

Right. I did Tanisha, the album that's nominated for a Grammy. I did that in prison as well. Right. So. But you don't sound like you were in prison. I'm trying to. Like, we were listening to this today.

I'm like, how the fuck did you do that? That's just how it is. Just figure it out. Remember, everything is a technique. Once you crack the code, you win. So I started using my mattress, like, you know, that sponge they give you to sleep on, to imitate the cushion sound in the studio. Oh, soundproofing.

Oh, soundproofing. Yeah, yeah. So that's how I, that's what I figured out. How many times did it take you to figure that part out? A few years, because I started recording in 2012, and by 2013, I figured it out. Which means you had a phone in there immediately. Yeah, no, I had an iPad, the small one. Oh, okay.

The rectangular one. Remember those early ones from back in the day? I used to use that until I figured it out in 2013, and and I started doing more better quality songs in terms of the sound. Wow. Now, where's your favorite place to perform? I see you just booked Cologne, Germany, right? Yeah, I'm in Germany. Yeah.

Where's your favorite place to perform? Outside of Jamaica. Let me rephrase the question. What's a place that you perform that you're like, damn, why am I here? Like, a weird place. I don't know, man. Like, I embrace everywhere.

Let me think, though. Japan, 2001. Japan. Yeah, that was crazy. They go crazy over there. Yeah, that was crazy because like, at the time, most of these, the internet wasn't around as big, so.

It was crazy for me to go to Japan and was like, Bum Bukla, these people know my songs. You know what I mean? So that was crazy. But since then, you know, we got used to it. Okay. Mm-hmm. Now, when you went to trial, a friend of mine's dear friend,

I believe he had 12 days of trial trial and I believe he went to 11 days and I believe if I hear this right believe on the 12th day they didn't let him in uh because um they knew he was going to be guilty I'm talking about Busta Rhymes yes yes yes that's my g I was with him in LA LA yeah just did a record in the studio yeah so how's your relationship with Busta Rhymes describe Describe your relationship. That's my G. The first time I met him was after I did Best of the Best. Because remember, I didn't have a visa.

So I was the first artist to do Best of the Best from Jamaica by a satellite. You know what I mean? Live. So he was in the crowd in Miami watching on stage and was like, yo, what the fuck is this? I remember that. I was there. I need to know this person.

So we came to Jamaica. Oh, so he, I bet you do music first. Yes. Okay, okay, okay, okay. So he came to Jamaica. But we love Busta Rhymes. Right, right. Because, you know, growing up, we found out he was Jamaican and he did the, he DJed very

well. He raps very well. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. No, no, the fever. The fever. The fever.

You don't know the song? You got me fever, bro. Oh, no, the fever. I know the fever. Okay, okay. Oh, okay, hell yeah. Hell yeah, salute. Yo, man, let me tell you

something, World Boss. Man, we are so hot. This is fever. Let's do that again. The fever. The fever. The fever. The fever. The fever. The fever. Let's do that again. The fever.

Champagne looking fever. Beer looking fever. So now, if I'm a tourist, I've never been to Jamaica. I'm a big Bob's Cartel fan. Where do you recommend that I go in Jamaica? For what? I don't know. To be safe.

Don't come. I'm joking. I'm joking. I'm joking. Jamaica is good, man. You can go anywhere. I mean, if you love dance, soul, and you want to be in that culture where cartel is from, bounty, beanie, put your bantam, my father, come to Kingston.

Come to Kingston. We party every single night. Right. Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. You want like a resort vibe, white sand beaches, the girls with the little thing, you go to Montego Bay. But to

be fair to Montego Bay, they also have a very powerful inner city culture. They got gun man them in Montego Bay? I've never seen one. Okay, alright, cool. But I will say this though, they have a very strong culture as well because they're the second city.

So Montego Bay would be, if Kingston were New York, Montego Bay would be Los Angeles. Okay. And they have big artists from Montego Bay as well, the culture, the energy. You know what I mean? Dancers, yeah. Tommy Lee, yeah, I brought out Tommy Lee. You know what I mean? Dancers, yeah. Tommy Lee, yeah, I brought out Tommy Lee.

You know what I mean? Of Squash. He lives in Miami now. A host of artists, man. Jamal, the dance man. So, yeah, Mobe's a nice cultural place, too. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I've been to Montego Bay. Oh, you've been there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The resort part or the Grammy part? Yeah, I've been to the resort part. My bad. I don't know nobody. So, you know, we got, okay.

Kata, I know we're all over the place, but I wanted to talk about Alliance and your introduction to Bounty Killer and that part of your life. Oh, that was crazy, man. Like, I was in Portmore at the time. So, a dude that saw me on a show, a stage show, Amateur Night, and he was like,

yo, I know Bounty Killer, and I can make the introduction. that saw me on a show a stage show amateur night and he was like yo i know bounty killer and i can make the introduction but them times as a youth from the ghetto he was like where are you not bound to kill him yeah like how you know him who are you yeah exactly because at the time he was driving a nissan i'm like how know what I mean? So it took us months because I was like, yeah, come pick me up today, five o'clock. Five o'clock, I never showed. You know what I mean? And then one day me and my friends was there chilling and we was like, you know what? He's determined. Give him a chance. You know what I mean? So see how determination is a good thing too. So I said, okay, go and he actually knew bounty right so when he took

me to bounty killer bounty was there i think he was playing cards or dominoes but some gambling was going on and he didn't even look up like butler was like oh this is the dude that i wanted to introduce you to and killer was like yeah man make him do the demo you know him talking double six and he's playing his domino anyway we went to do the demo when i went to the studio to do the demo i saw a man a man came in and the engineer was arguing with him and something he pulled a gun shot the dude killed him on spot we had to leave they're like how would the blood clad it's okay not class is my life. Anyway, we went to another studio where I met a famous Jamaican DJ called Ricky Chupa.

In Jamaica, we wouldn't call him DJ, though. We'd call him a selector. He spins the turntables. And that was the start of an amazing relationship as well. Anyway, did the demo, went back to Bounty Killer the next day, gave him the demo, left, came back the next day, and then he was like, yeah, yeah, you with your body. That's when Bounty Killer became my mentor, you know what I mean? Legend, yeah, he made me famous, a big up Bounty Killer.

And shout out to the dude that brought you to him because... Oh yeah, Ron Butler, he lives in L.A. right now. As a matter of fact, me and him not that close, but his little bro, he's one of my road managers. I don't leave him. Everywhere in the world I am, he's there. How about the first time you met Buju? Buju Banton, like I said, the first time I actually met him, apart from the incident, was in Manhattan. Them times I had visa, way back in the day, like 2004. Yeah.

Let me ask you a little political question. It's not too political. Why do Jamaicans need visas to come here, but Americans don't need visas to go to Jamaica? I mean, America is America. I don't think you guys need visas to go anywhere. Shit.

Maybe Russia. No, no, London. They kicked me out of London. I didn't have a visa. They kicked me out. They didn't even let me get out of the airport. We need visas for some people. Yeah, they kicked me right out of London. Yeah. You London motherfucker.

I mean, we could. You know what? Let me pass on that answer. I'm not going to get too political. Because then you're going to end up in race and whatever. No, no, no. How does it feel to get your visa back? And what does that mean for an artist coming from jamaica and overseas i mean it feels good man and i think i deserve it too that's right i mean so shout out to this yeah

not just not i don't say that to sound cocky or anything right i just say that because apart from me putting in the work, I think I'm changed as a person and I'm more user-friendly, so to speak. So yeah, I think I deserve it, man. I'm chilling. And you got acquitted of all the charges, right? You got acquitted of all the charges?

All the charges, man. I have no charges. I got acquitted of not being charged. One of the things that was said to me was, this whole time you was caught, but there was no gun and there was no body that they ever found. No. Yeah, so it was almost like... I mean, I went through the trials and tribulations and God brought me through successfully, you know? Made it through.

Made it through, man. God is the greatest. God damn it. Yeah, man. God damn it. Love for god is the greatest god damn it. Yeah, man So what was some of the things you was watching in jail Everything everything you had internet you had world star World star. Yeah. No that it's jail man. I had fucking Pornhub. I didn't see what the money was. I didn't see what the money was. I didn't see what the money was. I didn't see what the money was. I didn't see what the money was. I didn't see what the money was. I didn't see what the money was. I didn't see what the money was. I didn't see what the money was. I didn't see what the money was. I didn't see what the money was. I didn't see what the money was.

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I didn't see what the money was. I didn't see what the money was. I didn't see what the money was. up to the time man I mean they've taken so much so many phones from me in prison I've lost count man because it's not like it's legal right but it's a cell and I'm in a cell yeah right yeah so you know you know how that go it's crazy though but yeah man I mean I wasn't I wasn't given the worst treatment okay I wasn't singled out you know sometimes people like to single you out. Yeah. But when I was in Jamaican prison, I wasn't like singled out in a bad way.

Right. Right. Only in good ways, you know, because you know the culture is big. Like I said, I'm a chill person. Right. You know what I mean? And you're the world motherfucking boss. That too.

Yes, yes. Our show is about giving people their flowers when they can smell them, their thoughts when they can think them, and their drinks while they can drink them. Yo, man, welcome home. Yo, stay home. Stay on top of the game.

We want to give you your flowers. Face to face, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. Yeah. Oh, wow. This is amazing, man.

What's going on? Yeah, yeah. That's you. That's the camera. Yeah, yeah. Snoop Dog, man. What's going on? Yeah, yeah. That's you. That's the camera. Yeah, yeah. Snoop Dogg said it's better than a Grammy because it comes from his people. Yes, sir. Tell them where you from.

Portmore. He's from Portmore. Yeah. All the rappers come out. You see that? Yeah. Sun City. Thank you, man.

This means a lot. Yes. Hell yeah. You got something? Go ahead. Your nickname is the War Angel as well. You know what I'm saying? Was the War Angel.

Was the War Angel, yes. So I want to go back a little bit because we're in the magnificence of the Vibes Cartel right now, but we have to talk about how you got there and the things that made you there. And you said some of your inspiration was Bountyju and ninja man yes you had an instance with ninja man one time on stage you know what i mean i'm just wondering how the hell do you have an instance like that with one of your inspirations it was an unfortunate incident and you know i mean funny enough like i said ninja man is the first artist that i really listened to and was like i want to do this it's my job it's going to be my job so i guess we were bound to meet at some time they say work

with your heads until your idol becomes a rival or something yeah yeah they say that that's it yeah yeah so yeah so i mean i guess that's what brought me and his journey right there in that time and space together. But yeah, we cool. We met after that. We were actually in prison together, like two prisons. Oh, okay. Yeah, so we were in Spanish Town Prison,

and we were in Tower Street in Kingston. I left him there as a matter of fact. Big up Ninja, man. But yeah, that was a crazy point in my career, you know? Yeah. I was hungry. I could tell. I was hungry, man, and I wanted it at any means necessary.

Yeah, but Big Up Ninja, we're good like that. And what about the times with Bounty? Who all was in the Alliance? Oh, yeah, I had a lyrical feud with the Alliance as well when I left. But how long were you with them? I was with Alliance some 2000, till about 2005, 2006. Okay. Yes.

Funny enough, you know what started that feud with me and Alliance when i went to beanie man's wedding oh yes he was with it was bounty and beanie was at it at the time because remember bounty being a man married at the time so tensions was high there was love of hip hop in Jamaica. Exactly. Love of dancehall. Love of dancehall. But I knew Angel. That's Beanie Man's wife. Bounty's ex. I've known her for years.

So I basically went to Angel wedding. You were supporting her. Yes. And trust me, man, that was crazy. That caused the rift? crazy yeah that caused it man yeah but did you do you did a record as well with her you did a record yeah while she was with me yeah yeah yeah birth to her life you know what's up exactly it was a big it still is a big song yeah yeah yeah but that's what started it man and we went and that's what birthed like the emergence of gaza gully

because then movado stepped up as a kid that's who you guys are winning against right yes yes okay but we're both from alliance oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so when you had that problem he stepped up for for alliance right yes he stepped up for alliance right because i was shooting everyone right he was like the young, brave one that at the time, what are you doing? And that's when it started. So it's over? Huh? It's over now?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, my father's cool, man. But it went down for a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As a matter of fact, his son was in the same prison I was in, too. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, man, shout out to Golly God. Yeah. He's in town. Do you ever look back at those times

and I don't want to say regret anything. I never regret anything. But maybe you want to do something different? No, I want to live in this universe, man. And this universe brought me to where I am. God did it. Yeah. Yeah, man. Nice.

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Yeah, the fever's going to cause some of the burn. He's going to drink the fever himself. I thought, I could have sworn I saw that on your program, like when the person doesn't want to answer. Oh, you drink it? Oh, yeah. That's right.

He killed that. He killed that. I'm going to take a drink too. That was a quick time to slide. He killed that. I'm going to take a drink too. That shit. That's a quick time to slide. You ready for quick time? Hold on, hold on. Go ahead. Hold on, my bad.

Y'all got to step your shit up there. That's where they make up these questions. Let's talk about one of your friends, Sean Storm. That's my brother, man.'t friends yeah yeah yeah yeah so real bro man everything's great yeah okay yeah his mom used to sell at the primary school that I went to he went to there too but I'm older than him mm-hmm so I was there before so yeah ma we grew up in the same community. Right. Yeah. That's my bro, man. Talk to him

every day. Okay. Why did you ask that, though, even though it's your interview? I don't know. I just want to make sure I'm on point. Oh, yeah, you're on point, man. I want to make sure I'm on point. Let me tell you something. Everybody wants to be a part of this interview.

Everybody, man, because you're so important to the people. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And, like, you know what I mean? I just wanted to give you your flowers, man. Thank you, man. You know what I mean? Like, your story is impeccable.

Flowers received, man. That's right. That's right. Well, I want to ask, what influence, if any, did you have of a hip-hop artist from over here in the States? Growing up, I used to listen to KRS-One, BDP, from the Bronx. You know what I mean? Slick Rick. A little bit of Big Dad. We loved Slick Rick in Jamaica back in the day.

Because we heard... Beanie said the same thing. Yeah, man. Slick Rick, the ruler. Yeah, the teacher. Yeah, man. Big up Slick, man. We could be Big Chin. Right, yeah. You know, back in the days,

Jamaicans used to love to wear those big, heavy gold chains. You know what I mean? Them times, the diamond and the bling wasn't such a thing, but that's the big gold chain. The big rope, yeah, yeah. Yeah, man. And you call yourself the teacher too, right? Yeah, but, yeah, well, I didn't call myself the teacher.

People gave me that name. People gave me world boss. I only gave myself the name Vibes Cartel. And War Angel. Because remember, Bounty Killer is the warlord. So he needs the little war angels around him at the time. Did you write songs for Bounty? Yes, that's how we actually hooked up.

Or met, in terms of like, I used to write. And then he gave me the opportunity to do a song with him called gal clown wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute you said you still write yeah i wrote like back in the day the whole song yes yes yes really yeah and that's all that's cool yes okay that's bounty killer right who you going to say that's uncool? No, no, I'm just saying. Yeah, Bounty Killer had a team of writers around him at the time. Very good writers, too.

Wow. You know what I mean? Yeah, very good writers, man. Angel Doulas is the best one. You guys have more output, I feel like, than artists over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you're writing on every rhythm that comes out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're just throwing shit out.

Right. Yeah. All right. Did Ne-Yo ever get mad at you? I've never met him. Y'all niggas mash up his song. Yeah, I know. I know.

I know. Everyone in the club thinking they're going to hear. Dude. Dude. No. No, no, no. Yo, what's up? Yeah. Right. You got the clear eyes.

I watched that. Do you mean if I got the clear eyes? I watched it. I watched it. Okay. He cleared it right away, which made it impossible for me to not clear it, even if I was thinking about not clearing it, which, by the way, I was never thinking about not clearing it. But he didn't clear it. He didn't? No.

That's what I'm saying. Wait, wait, come on. It was presented to me. This is that dude. Oh, and by the way, he did this with your song. It was presented to me like that. So I'm like, so what are we talking about right now? Of course it's

fine. Why would I have a problem with this? To this day, I can't be over there and perform Miss Independent without giving props to what the fuck he did. You know what I'm saying? He brought it back to life.

Yeah, man. I say he brought the record back to life. Five in essence off of the shit that I was trying to do. I gotta give you love for that. Okay. In his defense as well, the publishing was owned by some European guys. So they were

holding like, oh, we don't... Isn't that so dope, the power of the people? They make with the hits, whatever the fuck it is. It doesn't matter if Def Jam played it or not. I think that's your record. Yeah, man. It's the biggest.

It's one of my biggest songs, man. Trust me. It's one of Spice's. Like, anywhere she goes, she's like, yo, I got the big hit with Cartel. This is my first big song. She says that. She's also from Portmore, by the way. Spice.

We grew up together. Yeah, man. So big up Gracie. And the Rumpin' Shop. Mm-hmm. She's also from Portmore, by the way. Wow. Spice. We grew up together. Yeah, man. So big up Gracie. And the Rampin' Shop. Mm-hmm. That's it. That's the... Yes.

Yes. Because we ramp rough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's called the Rampin' Shop. Rampin' Shop. Which you guys maybe would call it

like a motel or... Oh, it's like that? Yes. Oh. Yeah, or a sex shop. But we say Rampin' Shop. Because we ramp rough. Yeah, yeah. So sex shop, but we sell ramping shop. Because we ramp rough. We use a little cachovee.

So that's where the concept came from, you know what I mean? That's where we used to hang out. Like in the name Me Popcorn family, you know, the girls used to come through. Yeah, so that's how we gave it the name, the ramping shop. It's a real place. I don't know if I'm supposed to say it like this And you bust popcorn, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah

You said it properly Yeah, yeah, yeah I was very confused You got me Just say it Just say it Yeah, yeah, yeah Just be happy hear me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just happy to say it.

And yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I brought him to fame, man. Very talented. You know what I mean? Yeah, big up Popcorn. Did you think he exceeded your expectations or did he meet your expectations? No, he met it.

And, I mean, he has way more potential in him. Remember, he hasn't even touched U.S. soil yet. Think about that. He's one of the biggest artists out of Jamaica. Been all over the world. He rose with Drake. Oh, I'm seeing him in Canada. I'm thinking that's the U.S.

Exactly. Holy shit. No, it's not. Damn, I didn't peep that. And he goes to the U.K. as well. Sells like gold in UK. On a regular. Yeah, man, he's doing his thing.

He's big. If you get the headline, Eastern Parkway Parade, would you bring popcorn with you? Unless he's walking through the border. Like I said, he doesn't have a visa. Oh, yeah. But definitely, me and him, we travel all over the world.

We've been traveling. Like I said, I gave him his fame. So, of course, if he gets his visa, it's five stars, ten pop-cons. It's on. Yeah, but now as it stands, I have to walk, man. Shit. So why they won't give him his visa? I never went to the embassy when that was being discussed.

You came out, you got your visa, no problem. No, because God is the greatest. I told you, I've made a 180. Like, people expected me to come out, guns blazing. Right. Fucking up the place, literally. And musically. But like I said, I'm just calm now.

I'm chill. Like, I feel blessed. I feel good. You know what I mean? I'm just showing love to everyone. That's right. Whether you like me or not. And that's where my blessing come from.

You know what I mean? A lot of people surprised that I got the visa. Yeah. You know what I mean? As a matter of fact, I went to the German embassy first and got the European one, the Shenyang. Then I went to the U.S. embassy, got the U.S. visa. In addition to that, like I said, the Grammy nomination,

keeping Freedom Street the biggest dance hall show. It's a blessing because we just be like, God, I'm on your time right now. You know what I mean? You're going to make Freedom Street a festival? Yeah, we're going to do it for two days every year.

Two days everywhere? So where will be the next place you want to do it at? Well, we wanted to do it in England, but we got an offer already. Wireless Festival. Yes. So I'll be in wireless, and you know that's summer, so I don't want to pop that up. Yeah, where's that at? In London.

In England. Oh, London. Okay. Live Nation Wireless. Okay, yeah. So we're just keeping it every year in Jamaica. That's one thing for sure. Where's that at? In London. Live Nation's Wild. We're just keeping it every year in Jamaica. That's one thing for sure. It's going to be an annual event.

Do you realize that you stopped the planes traffic in Jamaica that night of the concert? There was planes that was backed up. There was traffic. It was one of the craziest nights in Jamaica. You knew that? Yeah, man. Even in Kingston, you couldn't get a hotel room.

All the rooms are booked. You know what I mean? And what a lot of the hotels did on that night, so say the room is like $250 US. So for those two nights, you got to have $1,000 a night. Wow. Did they cut you in on that? No.

No, but the hotel that I stay Funny enough You brought that up Because I actually Stay at a hotel I've been there so long Even my manager was like Just buy the hotel man

Just buy the hotel But they give me a good rate So I stay there Because my house is in the hills But it's too far Right So if I want to hide away From people

Then I go there But I like to stay In New Kingston Because that's like Being in Manhattan You said New Kingston? New Kingston It But I like to stay in New Kingston because that's like being in Manhattan. You said New Kingston? New Kingston. It's a part of Kingston called New Kingston. New Kingston, that sounds a little better.

Banks and the hotels and the nice restaurants and places you would like. Yeah, okay. God damn it, New Kingston. New Kingston. Let me ask a question. Since I was talking about Freedom Street, you know, Freedom Street reaches here,

and then you emerge out the stage, and you just sit there for maybe... From under the pit. Yes, maybe for one, two minutes. It seemed like five minutes. What did that feeling feel like for you? I did it on purpose. Because remember, I like to prove them wrong. So if you want me to jump this table,

just say you can't jump this table. You know what I mean? You can't jump this table. That's slang. Okay. Yeah, so when I was coming out to pee, usually I would start making my signature slang from black stage. Exactly.

So they'd be like, yo, yo. See what I'm saying? You know the thing. Them look like that. They shit like that. That would get the crowd so I was like nah

I'm coming out like Michael Jackson style exactly silence right and let them do them yeah so I gave them like a good

like think about a minute it seemed like five yeah it seemed like five I was streaming on six o'clock before they cancelled it and then I said yo yo

and pandemonium right yeah man and then we started it was crazy this is mine huh yes Yeah. Before they canceled it. And then I said, yo, yo. And pandemonium. Right. Yeah, man. And then we started. It was crazy. This is mine, huh? Yes. I like Kingstown.

The drinks just appear out of nowhere. Yes. It's your time. Yes. The vibe. The vibe. Let me ask you, do you think you should have won the Grammy? Yeah.

Yeah? Of course. Why not? It was me, like, you know, reading the comments. A lot of people agree with you. They think that you should have won the Grammy. Of course. I mean, that's Bob Marley. How many Grammys do you need? Like, you're the number one artist in the Jamaicaverse. In the Jamaican universe, right? You're the number one. This guy sits on iTunes number one every day looking at us like this. Literally.

I mean, if you look at his album, that hardly moves from number one. Like me, yeah, I moved it a couple times, goes back up. Another artist come, move it, it goes back up. That's Bob. How many Grammys you need, man? And if you think about it, my story is an amazing story. 13 years out of prison. Getting nominated for the album

that I did in prison, coming out, getting a U.S. visa, walking on the red carpet, that's a real story. And we know the Grammys is also political as well. It's a beautiful story. It's a success story. And guys are not saluting you

on the red carpet? Exactly, that would have been the icing on the cake. Am I bitter? No, hell no, that's Bob Marley. And personally, I think on the red carpet that was dope exactly that would have been the icing on the cake am I bitter no hell no that's Bob Marley and personally I think

he was the only person who could have beaten me you know what I mean so no and not the last time you're going to be nominated exactly that's not the

but you asked a question like back but now here's the question that for me for me I love this movie but every time I ask somebody from the island of Jamaica,

they tell me they didn't even see the movie. Shatters? No. Shatter is a legendary movie. Bob Marley. Bob Marley movie. Every time I ask somebody, did you see the Bob Marley movie? Like a person from the yard.

The new one. They'll be like, yeah. They'll be like, no, I didn't see it. I mean, I've seen clippings of it, though. You ain't seen it. No, but I've seen clippings of it, though. Look, you ain't seen it. No, but I've seen a lot of clippings. I need to understand this. Can you explain this to me?

Why are people... And I think you explained it to me a little bit. You said, I think people from Jamaica knows Bob's story so much that they didn't want it to be. And he's so iconic. But for us, like, if... A Biggie movie was to come out, right? I'm from Queens.

I'm not from Brooklyn. But I'm going to go see a Biggie movie. Why isn't the people? No, Rieger thinks he feels the need to tell me where he's from. No, I'm sorry. This is crazy, bro. I'm sorry, my brother. Yo, this is crazy.

We're at a loss. We're at a loss. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But why don't people from the yard go watch Bob's movie? I don't understand it. I mean, it's personal, man.

Okay. Because, you know, like you said, we know Bob. We grew up hearing his life story. Even a lot of people in Jamaica who did watch the movie, they were like, oh, why didn't Cindy break spear, which is Juna Gong's mom. Why didn't she get more time in the film? Oh, it is because Richard did the film. So, yeah, so it's that serious in Jamaica.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean? Because people have their favorites, man. Yeah, because Bobby's that big. Right. Now, what is the difference between reggae and dancehall? I mean, first of all, the beat.

You know what I mean? Dancehall, as a matter of fact, dancehall came about on reggae beats until it found its own niche. Some would say with punani rhythm in, I think, 86, we changed the beat itself. But reggae is more political, more social. You know what I mean? More more against the system more rebellious while dancehall is just like sex drugs you know what i mean yeah obviously because you know i mean but yeah i think dancehall is is reggae's like unruly I mean, it's deeper than that. It has many layers, obviously. Yeah, obviously. Because, you know what I mean? But yeah, I think Dan Sol is reggae's unruly cousin.

You know the one from the projects? Yeah. Yeah, that's Dan Sol. Younger cousin. Yeah, the younger cousin. Very younger. Reggae is the OG. Reggae is the older big brother. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. He smokes pipes. Yes. Yes, yeah. The younger Dan Sol is a fuck that roller. Yeah, split. But Dan Sol's an OG now, too. Yes, yes. The younger Dan Sars. I thought that role. Yeah, Cliff. Dan Sars is an OG now, too. Yeah, of course it is.

I mean, it's been around since the 70s. What's my man name? I told you I showed a picture of. And I called him Doctor, but he's not a doctor. Muta Baruka. Muta Baruka, right? I've seen him. You think you ever do his show?

Of course. I'm not afraid to do Muta's show. Muta's iconic in Jamaica as well, you know. Yes. Especially among the Rastafari

and the reggae community. Yeah, so he was saying like how much of reggae is the OG, but I guess we kind of like stepped on that already,

right? Yeah, you can't dispute that. Yeah, we can't, right? No, you can't dispute that. Plus,

it's coming from Moota, it's coming from a legend too. But he's right, reggae is the OG, man. Right. Yeah, but I coming from a legend, too. But he's right. Reggae is the OG, man. Right. But I think, and this is the topic that's been discussed. It's been going on for years. Should dancehall have its own category?

And I think yes, because Sean Paul isn't reggae. We'd more classify him as dancehall. Yes. And he's international. Right. You know what I mean? So we have the criteria. We have big international dancehall stars, as opposed to a junior gang who's reggae. And he's international. You know what I mean? So we have the criteria.

We have big international dancehall stars, as opposed to a Junior Gong, who's reggae. As opposed to a Bob Marley, who's reggae. You know what I mean? So I think we could have our own category. And you, Bounty, dancehall. Dancehall. Buju was dancehall as well.

Now Buju, for some, was a reggae? And the artists could go back and forth. Yeah, we can do, because I have reggae tracks as well. You know what I mean? So it can go back and forth. Yeah, we can do, because I have reggae tracks as well. You know what I mean? So it's a thin line, but it's there nonetheless. When you said

Buju was dancehall, would you ever do an album like a Till Shallow album, but on your own? I mean, when I say was, maybe that's a strong

choice at first, but what I mean, he was only dancehall. Hardcore dancehall. Unfettered and, you know what I mean? Biggie talk. And then he was like, in Shiloh we chant

Rastafari name. You know what I mean? So he made the transition. And he was super successful as a dancehall artist and super successful as a reggae artist. Not many people do that. You know what I mean?

So, yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you make an album like that, a Till Shiloh album? I mean, I'm dancehall forever, man. I doubt that. But I do reggae songs. And I love reggae, but I'm dancehall forever.

You know what I mean? So, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not going to change. All right. Do you think you'd do a tour with Beanie Man? mean if the money is right i'll do a tour with anyone you know i mean it is only when i say anyone i mean any jamaican yeah yeah yeah any hip-hop artist right the rnb artist i mean it's all black music afro beats like come on you have watched the rhymes on tour would be cool that's my g-man yeah he actually told me like yo we need to sing some dates together like wow that's my g-man you gotta let me know i'm flying now i'm flying now front seat

bus is gonna be like get on stage i'm gonna be like no i gotta watch it nah man um yeah uh that was one okay that's a good point you made too because when you said now i'm gonna watch it yeah see see so you so you can't just be an artist you got to be a fan of the music exactly god damn make some noise for that yeah yeah yeah i like that what you said yes i ain't gonna lie man i would i would if you and buster bryan was to do a show together yeah yeah i swear to god i probably wouldn't even call him because Because he'd be like, yo, come perform. And I'm like, no. I'll be front row like this.

With a hoodie on like this. Yeah, yeah. So the fans don't see you. Because you still need their space. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I'm going to keep it 100 with you. How many babies you think you made off of vibes?

Just your music. I'm talking about, I was listening to your shit. And all you two was talking about fucking. You like to your shit and all you do is talk about fucking. You like the fuck? Yes, sir. You like the fuck? That's my production. Yeah, man.

Like I said, in Jamaica, you have artists that do songs for the girls and then you have artists like me that go hardcore sex. I mean, I have songs for the girls. Right, yes. But a lot of my songs is like sex. You know, Shance yeah like i'm like shabarance then like he was like the man every

other song pussy pussy fuck fuck yeah but i mean artistically done obviously it's not that yeah it's not like you're reading from a book like pussy pussy fuck no it's music so you got the flow you got the sound poetic you got to be on the beat you got the cadence articulation yeah all of that

yeah yeah yeah it was funny as shit because we were working out to your music and all my white neighbors kept coming up

like pussy pussy yeah yeah I'm like I don't know what to say yeah I had my when I was in America back in the day

I had security right you know these giant looking guys so some of them were Hispanic so the dude came to me one day and he was like

yo Cartel man I figured out your songs your songs are the ones that say pussy pussy every two lines I'm not figuring out this that was like

Yeah Yeah you decided You cracked the code That's what I'm saying You cracked the code But yeah man Dancehall Like I said

Dancehall is like that It's hardcore How many babies You think you made Just over your music Like people just Just people or something Just pop in the place

Okay Yeah What population 19, 20% just over your music like people just just people just something pop in the place okay yeah yeah what population yeah 19 20 percent it's bigger than jamaica but people say that even in the comment section people would be like say i post the old song right um say ramping shop right someone would be like oh right oh I made my son virginity that's a big song in Jamaica that I did as well ladies come here oh I lost my virginity to this song I got pregnant to this song yeah they'd be in the comment section and that's why people call you the world boss in my opinion they say that you can make you know love music you can make yes you know uh

dog music yes and then you can you can make club music yeah man you can do anything then like i said i do a few reggae joints and yeah we do everything man like it's music it's like i say and then you can make club music. Yeah, man. You can do anything. Then, like I said, I do a few reggae joints. Right. Yeah, we do everything, man. It's music. It's like I say, I sing my truth

and my experiences. It doesn't have to be first-hand all the time. It can be a second. You know what I mean? Me and you in the streets or something happened in the community,

sing about that. Right. We do it in a way because remember, it's universal. Right. I mean, it's like hitting your elbow on the wall and feeling that shock. We all it in a way, because remember, it's universal. It's like hitting your elbow on the wall and feeling that shock.

We all go through the same stuff. Yeah, the funny part. So it's like once you have been through it, chances are a few other people have gone through that. It's relatable. Right. Yeah, so that's how I attack music, from that more personal kind of. And that's why people love my songs, Dance Off i tap into that personal part right yeah yeah yeah um speaking of that let's talk about the your debut album the up to the time album you know green sleep one that just dropped no no okay no

that's way back okay way back 2003 i think how do. Do you remember creating that album and what was going on and your mind state? I mean, like I said, in them times, oh, because when I came out back then, a lot of people didn't understand my style. Exactly. Because the answer was changing, and I was one of the kids at the time that was changing the flow. So I got a lot of pushback from the industry, from the gatekeepers. So when that album came out, the kids just ate it up. And that's how Vibes Cartel became like a young G back in the day. Because the flow was different.

Because you know, say 90s dancehall, the typical template would be like Vibes Cartel was like, you know me call canine? No. Me inna me clothes fitting Clarks. Me shoes na cheap light chicken parts. It would be like... and they make it recommendation and remarks. Some say me ugly like Boba Sparks. Some say me like the best them come across. Illegal fire armor, fiberglass. Some they rush me with no knife or ass. This plus me equal, your life a' last. You know, crazy rhymes like that. As opposed to like, this is early 2000 we talking about.

So that album, when it came out, the kids ate it up and I became like instantly a household name just off of that. Because like I said, we grew up. The generation before me wasn't into hip-hop like that. But my generation of the 90s, we grew up to, like I said, the KRS-One. Biggie Small when he came out. Tupac. Jay-Z.

Nas. And the changing of the flows. Changing of the flows. So we kind of had the ear to like, oh, wow, you can express yourself like that? Right. You can say that? You can jump out of the pocket,

come back into the pocket. Exactly. So that's where Cartel came from, like as a product of dancehall and hip-hop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was crazy. I was going to say, I could see why Syfe was trying to compare him to Eminem, the Eminem of Jamaica.

Yeah, and that's old, Carter. Exactly. And that's like 25 years ago. You know what I mean? So, yeah, it's crazy. I don't like that comparison, by the way. No, but I'm talking about the flow. If you would admit that the fact that he can do anything, you know what I'm saying?

We always said Lil Wayne. You know, that's who we always... Lil Wayne is fire, though. How does he come up with that shit? Which is what people say to me in dance halls. Exactly. But when I listen to Lil Wayne, I want to see him to ask him that same question.

I'm like, fuck. It's crazy, man. Who's your favorite hip-hop artist right now? Of all time, Tupac All time, Tupac? That's why this is God's sign I got this from Pac Because when we were back in the day

Pac used to love to throw this stuff Yeah, yeah, yeah And funny enough, why we use it too Because I'm from Portmore Which is not really Kingston So we're like outsiders Especially back then We're like, yeah.

So, yeah. So we had the Gaza. That's crazy. What would a Bob's Cartel Tupac record sound like? That would be crazy. Humbo Club. That would be crazy. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

I got the worst. What's that shit called? Volume in the world. Cypher sounds in the building. Make some noise. You see? Fully. What's going on, Jenna?

Yeah, man. I'm here, man. You good? I'm fine, man. I'm doing drinks champs. So you know how that go. I'm telling you, it's a pleasure to be here syph trust me thank you you started it you went you and rosenberg remember the interviews as i came

out they did the very first one right yeah yeah yeah so now i'm at drinks charms yeah, so I'm drinking. Yo, Syke, where you at? I'm on the goods. I just want you to know I'm the king of the dance hall. They come see me. They get their visa and they come see me. You know where the bird cut off, man. Get out. That's my friend. That's my friend That's my friend

Now I was asking you about The Brooklyn Parkway Parade Yeah yeah yeah Now in New York This is like the biggest Biggest this is like For the Jamaicans This is like their summer jam right

The West Indies Day Parade. I did it back in the day, you know. I did it back in the day. Okay. Yeah, yeah. But sometimes, like I said, I was a young artist. Elephant Man and them guys was running the place in the dance hall first. Right.

Yeah, yeah. What do you feel about reggaeton? I love reggaeton. I don't understand shit they're saying, but the flow is similar to, the flow is similar to dancehall, and the rhythm, the beat is dancehall. I love it, man, I have no problem with it. I love it.

Have you collaborated yet with anybody? No, not yet. Oh, that has to happen. No, not yet, but I love it. You know what I mean? The vibe, the energy, yeah. When it comes on in the club, I mean we don't stop like, what the fuck?

I mean, yeah, man. Can you what the fuck? I don't know. I can't find it. Can you name a reggae tone record that you like? Hell no. But I know Daddy Yankee, though. He was the original pioneer, or one of the pioneers. So we knew about Daddy Yankee, and as Jamaicans back in the day, that made us feel patriotic to know that

all these guys are patterning our shit. Oh, wow, Daddy Yan shit. That's a reggae name? I didn't even peep that. Remember Daddy, even the Daddy 2. Daddy Yankee. Think about it, because Jamaicans call African Americans Yankees.

And then you put the Daddy on it. Yo, you're fucking me up. I swear to God, I was 10 years old and I didn't even peep that. Oh my God, I've been on tour with I was 18 years old. I didn't even beat that. Oh, my God. I've been on tour with this nigga for three years. I didn't know that shit.

Thank you. What the fuck is wrong with me? Holy shit. Oh, okay. Come on. Okay, how about Afro Beats? I love Afro Beats. What's your favorite Afro Beat record out right now?

I don't know if I should sing it. She's saying she wants him to make her sweat water oh yeah that's his song yeah tyler yeah and i love the girl called thames too thames too yeah i think she won grammys for she won at the grammys the other day yeah i was there yeah i love afrobeat all right whiskey i got songs with whiskey right you know what i mean burn up no i don't think i have a song with him, but he's big too in Jamaica. And Shatta Wale from Ghana, came to Freedom Street. Fuck the clear stuff. He love you. Yeah, man. That's my bro, man. So yeah. I mean, it's African music, all of it.

Hip hop, dancehall, reggaeton. It's literally called reggae. All of that music. Salsa, merengue, all of that shit. Come on. Jazz, whatever, rock and roll, it's black music. It's literally called reggae. All of that music. Salsa, merengue, all of that shit. Come on. Jazz, whatever. Rock and roll is black music. That's African. Because we have Buju Bonton on. Buju, he was like that.

He don't feel like that sometimes reggaeton or Afrobeats give dancehall and reggae its props. So that's something that you don't agree with? No, it's not that I don't agree, but think about it. Reggaeton is called reggaeton. The homage is even in the name. Reggae. Reggaeton. Exactly.

You know what I mean? So the homage is there. I mean, I think, and this goes to show the power of Jamaican music, because it's a numbers game, and Jamaica is small. You know what I mean? Nigeria has what? Over 200 million people? Yeah, they're going to get their own slot on MTV.

Africa is a continent. It's a fucking continent, right? Nigeria has 200. More than 200 million. I didn't know that. Yeah. I think I'm going to go ahead and say it has like maybe 230 million. So of course MTV is going to recognize. All them niggas are scamming, niggas.

All them niggas are scamming. Allegedly. Allegedly. To allegations. Huh? 324? Two. I'm off by like six I'm off like six now.

You're teaching me, man. Yeah, that's why they call me the teacher. Yeah, but seriously, it's a numbers game, so they big. So they're going to get the MTV special, or MTV Africa. Right.

Well, Jamaica is like 2 point something million. It's not feasible. But we still influence Nigeria. Right. We still influence Ghana. So that just goes to show the power of the music that comes out of that small island. It's deep. Yep.

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Interesting. So what I'm trying to tell you is, as small as Jamaica is, like how you just said, it still runs. That's what I'm saying. Like, it runs that whole thing. That's what I'm saying.

Like, everywhere I was at, and I was just, I was feeling, like, honored. Everywhere I was going, it was, yo, man, good hook, good interview.

And they start crushing up, you know. Yeah, that's right. No grinders. No grinders. We doing it. They're allergic to grinders. Yeah.

So, yeah, man man But Jamaica is very Influential Very influential You want to play Quick time or slot Let's do it man You don't have to take shots If you don't want to

You can pick You can just drink Or you can drink You have got some egos Oh shit No we got fever egos Okay let's do it Yeah yeah yeah

Two choices If you pick one Nobody drinks Yeah But if you don't want to answer Or you want to say both of the people. Everyone drinks. Yeah, I know. I know.

I'm a fan. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. All right. You ready? I want this one. Go ahead.

Because I feel like you already did this already. Bounty Killer or Buju Banta? Local one. Already. already did this already. Bounty Killer or Buju Banta? Look at what I got. Already. Fever. Fever's good. I tell you. Okay, you can take the next one.

Terry Gunze or Grimesman? Grimesman. Yeah. He originally did Ben Spunani, which I paid homage to and used to hook. And he's from Portmore, where I'm from. Definitely Grinzman, but big up Terry Gansey, the outlaw. Tupac or DMX? Tupac. Rest in peace to both, bud. Yeah, I repeat to both, yeah. I don't want to ask this one. Bob Marley or Peter Tosh? Oh, shit. I like this shot. That'll get the point.

And you got the next one, too, sir. Mmm. Ooh. Beanie Man or Ninja Man? Ninja Man. Go ahead. Black Rhino or Popcorn? Mmm. Ooh. Black rind or popcorn? You know the more you drink this the more you...

I'm ready to hear you. Let me do this one. Go ahead. Russian or not nice? You're turning me into an alcoholic, man. This shit is crazy. Fever. It's the fever.

I want to eat. I want to eat. You guys are right, man. Tiny shots. Yes. Go a long way. This shit. Yeah.

Jay-Z or Nas? No, Jay-Z. You mixed one, right? No, no. He did that one. No, he did. That was popcorn. It was the last one. No, no, no. He did that.. No, he did. That was Popcorn. It was the last one.

No, no, no. He did that. He did that? Okay, my bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Rasta. Definitely Jay-Z.

This one is a no-brainer. Teacher's Pet Reality Show or Thug Life Movie. Don't, don't, don't. Don't leave the witness. Teacher's Pet Reality Show. You're talking about my Thug Life Movie? Yeah. Teacher's reality show. You're talking about my Thug Life movie? Yeah.

Before I became famous, back in the day when everyone was broke, I did the worst fucking movie. I'll take that. It was crazy. Thug Life, I got shot. I was in bed laughing. That was your acting?

I have terrible acting skills. I have terrible acting skills. I have terrible acting skills, bro. Trust me. And you were paying homage to Pac there, right? Thug Life? Yeah, yeah, Thug Life. Like I said, yeah. I even have it tattooed somewhere.

Talk about Teacher's Pet. Talk about Teacher's Pet. How was that experience? Teacher's Pet was crazy, man. I mean, looking was, looking back, it could have been way better. But like I said, I was the first person to do it. So we didn't have a template. It was like the flavor of love, basically. But we didn't have a Jamaican template.

Yeah, so I did it. Even to this day, people are like, when are you doing it over? You just come out of prison. You should be doing it, not getting married. So yeah, people loved that. That was big back in the day. Especially with the songs. Pussy, pussy, pussy.

Yeah. I mean, it goes hand in hand, man. Yeah. Trust me. I got one. Kendrick Lamar or Drake? Drake. You can go all the way down.

Nah, we, Drake. I seen you say Drake before on the internet. Yeah, he's been in Jamaica too, man. Yeah, you said,

you said every block you go through, you can hear a Drake record. In Jamaica, you can hear, you may not. Not saying he's not talented, but you know,

Drake has that commercial flavor and he's like, he's like the hip hop Michael Jackson. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,

yeah. So yeah, Jizzy. Plus, he did a lot for Popcorn and he rips the culture right he rips Jamaica culture yeah to the point where people started calling him culture vulture right but like we don't feel that way exactly as well as well yeah because Jamaicans are all over yeah so it is this next I got this one. All right, go ahead.

I got this. Because I was looking in my closet for my Clarks. Yeah. I couldn't find them. I got a brand new pair of New York Yankee Clarks. And then I said, I might be going too far. Yes. But Clarks or Adidas?

No, that's not Adidas. That's not Adidas, buddy. That's Adi's. Okay, my bad. Adi's. My Adi's? Yes. The ones that shoots how you submit back in the day?

How do you know that? Come on. All right. Adi's, Addy's. My Addy's? Yes. The ones, the shoes I used to make back in the day? How do you know that? Come on. All right. Addy's. Addy's. The nigga said, come on, like when they done been telling you. Come on. You busting my balls over here.

I love my job. You right? I love my job, yes, yes. Talk about the Addy's, though, because what inspired you to have your own shoes? I mean, just like I said, I love money, but it's deeper than that. I said we grew up on hip-hop as well, and we always admired how these guys come from poverty just like us. Now they're rappers. They have their own shoes.

They have their own, you know what I mean, brand. So you were seeing that first in the hip-hop? Yeah, in the 90s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're rappers, they have their own shoes, they have their own brand. So you were seeing that first in the hip hop industry? Yeah, in the 90s, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that inspired me, of course. Like I said, my generation is the first generation to have cable TV. So that influences the synergy. Yeah, so when cable came out in Jamaica,

we were like 14 years old, being the first generation to be able to watch BET and AJ and Free. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 106 and Park. 106 and Park. Yeah, 106 and Park. Yeah, so we were... And Rap City.

Rap City and all of that. You hear how loud he got with one of these? 106 and Park. Yeah, because we were... You know what I mean? So, yeah. It's that, yeah. It changed the American landscape

and it added to the culture as well. You know what I mean? So, like I said, yeah. Before us, there was just one TV station in Jamaica. It changed the American landscape and it added to the culture as well. You know what I mean? So like I said, before us, there was just one TV station in Jamaica. So my older sisters, they grew up on one TV station that signed off at midnight. Crazy, right? And Clark's, I know, their sales had to go up. Yeah, yeah.

Remember Clark's? We're a British colony, so Clark's has been embedded in the culture. I just brought it back. Exactly. Because like I said, when the cable TV came, this came. Or the Jordans. Jordans came. Sneakers came. Jerseys came. So a lot of it was lost

to the kids who came out in the late 90s. They came out wearing Jordans and so on. So when I did Clarks, it brought back that old school style. Yeah. And that's why it's still so big to this day, because it has always been in the culture. Right.

Know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. E. Yeah. Dre Skull or Superhype? Dre Skull. But Superhype is my regency. Dre Skull, me Hype? Dre Skull, but Super Hype is my legend still.

Dre Skull, me and him did Kingston's Story album. That was crazy. Sizzler or Capleton? Two ledges, man. I can tell you. Did you drink? I'm watching you. I'm right here. Oh, okay.

So she's right. Yeah. Big up to Zlanke Patan. Those are giants. Yes, man. Hold on. This is the best intro of all music Who's that?

That's some dick I think it's a yeah That's some dick Those are the words you want them to tell you One man Go on Be every me, no one, no other man One man Come on. Is that live?

Oh, no. Anything is possible. It's June's chance. It's June's chance. Come on, man. Let me tell you how much. We're going to get right back to Quick Time of Slime. But let me tell you how much your fans are your fans.

Yes. I posted, like, with multiple stuff. Yes. And all I did was post a little bit of this right here. They're like, vibes come on in there. The minute that they heard that you got your visa, they was in our DMs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's going to do QuickTime right now. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I quick tests. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Okay, I got you. I'm fucking dead. But before we get back into quick trauma slime, I just want you to know. Yeah. You know, I've been doing this for eight years. So I've been studying. Nine years. Nine years.

Excuse me. I've been studying people's fan base. I study people's drinks. I study people, whatever. Yeah. But I tell you, your fan base are crazy. Imagine Beehive on weed. That's my fan base.

Barbies on fucking Bieber. Exactly. We had to. Exactly, right? Shit. Yeah, man. That's why I tell you, man. They are not respectful.

They're like, when you drop the like, we ain't drop the episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We ain't even record the episode. They made a lot of episodes. We ain't recording it. Yeah, man. That's God's nation, man. They're crazy. And you know that because when I explain that

to Lil Wayne, Lil Wayne couldn't actually understand. I had to like almost tell him his fan base, but you know your fan base because you know why they was writing you in jail and all that. Yeah, yeah.

Shit, man. My fan base is crazy, bro. Like me. Back then. That's the cartel he was talking about. That's my fan base. They haven't evolved with me. They haven't evolved. They're still dark as fuck. No, it's okay, bro.

I like it like that. You could pull a Trump right now. You could tell people, go to the court right now. No, don't say that. I'm on a visa, sir. Okay, I forgot, I forgot. Moving on, moving on.

Yes, yes. I'm not going to tell them that. Drink water and mind your own fucking business. He can have that. Oh, shit. Can I get a straw? Yeah Why?

Why? Damien Marley You know what just happened Yeah Damien Marley or Stephen Marley? Damien That's Junior Gong man Junior

Come on Big up Stephen still But Junior Gong Like The younger kids A lot of young kids in Jamaica Even say Junior Gong Is

Is Badder than Bob Marley Because he not only sings, he DJs, he raps. Right. Because he grew up different. Right, right. I mean, he grew up between Miami and New York.

Yeah. He's a world citizen. Big up, Gong. Shabba or Supercat? Shabba. Supercat a bad man though. Man, Supercat is hell.

Yeah, but like I said, remember Shabba is more my like, for the ladies. Right. So Supercat is a real guy. I mean,

I'm a hybrid because coming up, I was naturally gangster, but I do a lot of songs for the ladies. And it feels like Supercat was one of the first artists to really get into the hip-hop.

Yeah, of course, because him and Heavy D was friends. Heavy D, and Biggie's first track is on that too. Supercat's remix. Yeah, that's from the Ninja Man,lly My Baby. Yeah, that is a legend as well. Yeah, that's from the Ninja Man, Super Cat, Shabarang era. Right. When I was like 12, 13, coming up in the 80s. Right.

Yeah. Extension Royalty or Eminem? Which song? Which song? Because royalty is a song. Which Eminem song? White Trash Because royalties are song. Which Eminem song? White Trash Party. Oh, White Trash.

White Trash Party. White Trash Party remix. Yeah. This is all you from here on out, brother. Yeah, White Trash Party remix. Definitely. And why do you guys write this long-ass shit like that? Because it's cartel, man.

That's right! That's right! Now, you guys face this long ass shit like that? Because it's Cartel, man. That's right! Now you gotta space out these individuals. They don't have to hide from each other. Y'all don't fuck with that one. Oh, it's that Jamaican has to be writing this question. Couple seconds. What the fuck?

Okay, I get it now. It all makes sense now. Ishana or Shensei? Ishana. But Shenseia? Aishana. But Shensia, legendary young artist. As a matter of fact. You break Shensia. No, I didn't break her.

A producer that I recorded a song for called Ludi. He basically stole the song and gave it to Shensia to sing. But this is when Gaza fans, my fans, really had a problem with Chensia when she came out and said she wrote the song. As if she wrote for you? No, as if she wrote the entire song. Okay, okay. So you wrote her verse too? No, it was my song. So I record the song

for you. You give it to a girl, so all she did was change the verses. So if I say me, she said her. yes so she just changed like the the pronouns oh okay you know what i mean yeah and but then someone someone leaked the original song when when she was saying oh cartel didn't write my part i wrote my part and she released it someone's leaked the original song where I wrote everything. That's why God's Nation fans had a problem with her initially.

Well, yeah, she cool, man. Like, I've never met her in person, though. You remember I was in prison them times. Yeah, I told you he was in prison, baby. I didn't see her. Yeah, because you recorded that feature for her. I recorded that song in prison. Oh, wow.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Elvis, who was the producer, gave it to Shensia. So they left my hook and she just sang my verses. Right. How did that feel? Did that vex you? No, I wasn't vexed and I wasn't happy. It was just like, yo, I need my money. I need my...

Yeah. So I wasn't angry or sad. I was unpaid. So, yeah. So that's all I needed. But yeah,'t angry or sad. I was unpaid. So, yeah. So that's all I needed. But yeah, big up Shenyang. And she reps anywhere she goes.

She South, South cartel too. Always. Yeah. To be in her defense. She does. But Spice is the number one. Big up Spice.

Queen of Danza. Yes. She been on the show? Not yet up Spice. Queen of dancehall. She been on the show? Not yet. I need her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely. Reggae or dancehall? Dancehall.

Forever. Go ahead. You should take a shot for action, man. Yeah, man. Fuck you. Yeah, let's take a shot for action. We knew it was dancehall. This one is fire.

Don't say Trump or Biden. No. Nah, we don't want no political shit neither. Exactly. We are not right. We need you to keep your visa. Yes, sir. The shots are here.

I just want to preface this by saying we have some foul friends, right? Yes. I'm the only vegan Ita here, right? Oh, you're vegan? Ita, yes. A little bit. Sometimes he eats shrimp in L.A.

Allegedly. Allegedly. You're a Jamaican? Born in Jamaica? No, I was born in New York. My parents from Jamaica. Father from St. Patrick's. He a Yankee, man.

He a Yankee. So you're a Yankee, basically. So you're a Yankee. Number one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As you're a Yankee. Yeah, yeah. As a vegan, do you eat pussy? I'm just checking. To honesty, man.

I'm just checking. Because pussy is meat. What? So you can't be a vegan. It's a project. Think about it. I don't know, man. Back it up. It's a project. Think about it. I don't know, man. Fuck off.

Fuck off. I said, what? Fuck off. But he lied. You know that, right? Just say it. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

Okay, so what happened? What you was going through? Yeah, yeah. He was asking me a... I was leading that up because the reason they gave me this fucked up question. It's not that crazy, bro. Come on, just ask him the question. Jerk chicken or curry chicken? What the hell? That the reason they gave me this fucked up question. Yeah, they gave me this fucked up question.

It's not that crazy, bro. Come on, just ask them the question. Jerk chicken or curry chicken? What the hell? That's why they gave that. No, that's a deep question, man. Take a shot. Yeah, take a shot.

I'm Jamaican. How do you? How do you? Yeah, man. You went too crazy with that, bro. They gave it to me, though. That's the foul part. They gave it to you.

They wanted us to drink. No way. What Jamaican, how are you going to decide between curry chicken and jerk chicken? I can't do it. Are you mad? I can't do it. I went to a store in Kingston and I see the Chinese man. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, blood clot.

I said, if you could be a blood clot, I could be a blood clot. Jamaican Chinese are the toughest, though. Yeah, they tough. They think they Jamaican. Yeah. Hey, blood jack, boy. Konnichiwa, motherfucker. Konnichiwa.

Oh, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. The locks or dip set? The locks is Jada Kiss, right? Yeah. I'm about to say Jada, but you? I don't know.

Jada. Sorry, sir. Jada? I love Jada Kiss, right? I'm glad to say Jada, but you? I don't know, Jada. Sorry, sir. Jada? I love Jada. Why does Jada sound like an Italian fucking mafia? With that voice and that cadence, which is one of the reasons why his art is so... Yeah, very true.

He's pristine with his lyrics. Yes, man, and the sound of his voice. It's crazy, man. Raspy sound, that's what I with his lyrics. Yes, man. And the sound of his voice. Yeah. It's crazy, man. Yeah, raspy sound. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, man. You can take the next one. That's crazy.

Karis won her Slick Rick. I respect that. Oh, you're going to take two for the culture? No. No. That's that fever, man. I like it in that. I like it in that.

He took one for Karis One and for Slick. And for Slick. Hell yeah, man. Those guys are legends. I'm like, I'm not that young, so you know I grew up on those guys' music. No, they're absolute legends. All right, Jordan or LeBron? Jordan.

That was easy. LA or Miami? New York. Sorry, guys. No, no, no. I respect that. I love it. I'm Jamaica. New York, Brooklyn, Flatbush.

You're going to take a shot for that. You don't have to take a shot. I'm going to take a shot for your answer. There's no shot. Hold on. That's why we got to take a shot. That's why you got to take a shot. I'm going to take a shot for you. There's no shot. Hold on. Okay, okay. No, but that's why we got to take a shot. That's why you got to take a shot. That's why we got to take a shot. Don't try to be smart over there.

Y'all are not smart over there. He's like, one plus one, three. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Salud. Yeah, salute. Cheers to you guys, man. Love New York, yeah, man. thank you you know the gaza version of salute is actually tables that's what we say so i say tables yeah because we don't do chairs

okay tables get it Tables. Get it? Huh? Tables? Oh, chairs. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We do tables. I like it. I didn't make that up on the spot. I'm going, I'm going, I'm going. Like some of your previous guests. Analog or digital? Analog.

Goddamn, let's make the boys clap. You're talking about the sound? Yeah, analog. Analog, you had to be in the same studio together. Exactly. That's vintage sound, it's warmer. I mean, if you grew up on digital, you're not going to know the difference.

Right. But if you grew up old school, you're going to know the analog has that warmer sound. So what they used to do in Jamaica, when the digital sound came out, they used to still run it back on the 24 track after they mixed it, and then they mastered on the 24 track.

And they still press it on dub plates. Exactly. Yeah, we still do that shit. Yeah. Oh, no, this is yours. This is the last one. Okay. Last one. How many questions are there? Is this $1700? $1700?

$0.50. Yeah. 50 cents. Yeah. Let me add one. Okay, go ahead, go ahead, man. Before the last one. With your pink hat on. 22. Yeah, so my pink hat.

No, it's not pink. It's fuchsia. Fuchsia. Thank you. Or salmon. No, not salmon. No fish, no. In Jamaica.

That's his Jamaican. It went over your head. No, no, no, no. Don't worry about it. Oh, look, now you made it feel Jamaican. He's like, I know you're Jamaican. He picked up. Sean Storm and Mad Sauce.

Are these empty? Nope. Are they? No, they got some. Oh, man. No, those are, yeah, those are, there you go. Yeah, yeah. Are these empty? Nope. Are they? No, they got some. Ah, man. No, those are, yeah, those are, there you go. He's asking about, one is my brother, one is my son.

Dalo. Mm. That's three shots. Mm-hmm. Give us a Mad Sus story, though. Mad Sus is crazy, man. Like, I raised him. So when he came up from the country, he was like nine, 10 years old.

So we came to Portmore. So coming from this, imagine you coming from fucking somewhere in the country and you end up in Brooklyn in 1980, fucking six. Wow. Exactly. So he came up and now, I mean he held his own he grew up rough just like the rest of us we actually went to prison together and he lost his mother while we were in prison yeah man i cried man like and like i said i cried twice in prison when my baby mother's

mom died and when mad swiss mom died, that shit hit us like hard, bro. Even my grandmother died when I was in prison and I didn't feel it. Because she was an old lady. She was like 90. Like she had lived her life. She had lived her life, right? Right, right.

Yeah, but when Mads' mom died and Shorty's mom, that shit hurt. Yeah. Is it true that he created the laughter yeah because remember we're a group you know and he did he invented the world boss okay world boss yeah so yeah like i said i raised those kids so yeah yeah when he came out you know i got him a fat benz and i mean gave him an apartment. Because my life is dope and I do dope shit. You know Kanye West said that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. From me, from him, yeah.

I don't know what, I think Dave Chappelle gave that joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was watching it in prison. Yes, yes. Yeah, and I heard Dave Chappelle say it and I'm like, oh shit, that's dope. Yeah, so big up Kanye, I like Kanye too. So this is the last one, we'll get back into the interview. Yeah. I like Kanye, too. So this is the last one?

You guys need to collaborate. Yeah, I like Kanye. He's a lyricist. You and Kanye, and production-wise, that would be crazy, too. Yeah, he's also, yeah. Our son once played two pianos at once. Like some black Mozart fucking crazy.

Big Up Kanye. And now he's back a billionaire. He's on some shit. Yeah, he's back to being a billionaire, right? You saw him at the Grammys with his wife. Drop the top! You lucky I'm not in prison, bitch. I'm joking.

I'm joking. I mean, I think he might even appreciate that to a degree. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, if he does, I'm not joking. It's real shit, though. That was real shit, though. Yeah, man, Kanye's crazy, man. But I guess that's part of being a great artist.

Right? You got to be fucked up. I mean, not baby all fucked up, but... Too soon? Yeah. Bam, bam, bam! I wasn't ready! You weren't ready?

Yeah, I wasn't ready. Sorry, sorry, sir. It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. It's okay. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. The fever. It's your fever, right?

It's crazy. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, okay. It's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The fever. Your fever, right? It's crazy.

Oh, dude. This is not Quick Time with Sly. Yeah, no. Oh, so the last question. Last question for Quick Time with Sly. Then we get back into the interview. Yes, sir. Loyalty or respect?

Loyalty. Loyalty. Loyalty. I believe in loyalty. Because you can respect me, but if you're loyal to me, I know I'm safe around you. Respect that. You're not going to call some dude, oh, he's here. Come rob him and shoot him like they did with Tupac in New York. Right.

By they, I mean. Yeah. I don't know. They. They. They don't want us to win. Exactly. I correlate the other thing, too, now. Well, yeah, loyalty, mean. Yeah. I don't know. They. They. They don't want us to win. Exactly. I correlate the other thing too now.

Well, yeah, loyalty, man. Yeah, of course. Loyalty. I believe in that. And that's why it was strange when you asked me that question about Sean Storm. That's one of the most loyal people I've ever met. Oh, wow. Yeah.

I mean, but Gaza is loyalty, though. That's how we roll, you know what I mean? Let's make some noise for that. True. How did you guys come up with calling it Gaza? Yeah.

It reminds me of Nori saying, left rack, Iraq. Oh, well, first of all, in Jamaica, the Portmore kid

can tell you, Jamaicans, a lot of us, especially back in the day, we are well-read, and we watch everything that's happening in the world. So on a street corner in Jamaica can be called Tel Aviv. Tel Aviv, like Israel. In Jamaica, you have street corners called Mexico, Little New York.

Amongst yourselves. Black Bush. Amongst yourselves. Yeah, that's what's like the street corner amongst ourselves, not like the official government. Right, right. So where I come from in Waterford, you have Boston. You have Flatbush.

You have Mexico. And then you have Gaza. You know what I mean? So we got the name literally from the Middle East. Is it given because of a reason, though? Yeah, because of that struggle, man. That struggle. Okay, so you're emulating something.

You're emulating something. That's why a lot of these street corners in Jamaica have those names. Nicknames. Yeah, because of that struggle, man. That struggle. Okay, so you're emulating something. You're emulating something. That's why a lot of these street corners in Jamaica have those names, nicknames. You know what I mean? So you have Red Square. That's where Sprague Benz is from. You know, Red Square is Russia. You got Little London down there.

You got Mexico. You got Vietnam in Seaview where Bounty Killer is from. Seaview, Mountain View. Yeah, Mountain View. No, those are real names. But on a street corner in Seaview, you would see, because we graffitied the place, so you would see Vietnam.

Yeah. Yeah. Who lives in Tel Aviv? Spraga Benz. No, Tel Aviv is south. Spraga Benz lives in Red Square. Okay. Which is, like I said,

the unofficial name. USSR. For the corner. Yeah. Yeah, which is the Russian. Yeah. Yeah, Spraga Benz, you know, big entertainer in Jamaica. I've been the unofficial name for the corner. Yeah, which is the Russian. Yeah, Sprague Benz. You know, big entertainer in Jamaica.

I've been to Seaview, Mountain View. You've been to Seaview? That's where Bounty Killers is from. And I've been... You've been to Tivoli. I watched you saying you went to Tivoli Gardens with Dodo. Yeah, I saw that. I saw that. I watched that shit in prison.

Bro, your podcast is big in prison in the streets. Everywhere in Jamaica. Oh, come on. Let's make some noise. Where you fuck Jamaica, bro? That's a rapper as well. Yes, yes. I ain't going to lie.

Come on, man. I'm not going to lie to you. Nori. Yes. When they told me, they said, man. Because what, what, what? Yeah, all right. Supertug had to be going crazy.

I didn't know. All those songs. I didn't know. Like, Jamaica Love. I guess because it's rowdy. Like I said, yes. That's it. That's why Jamaica's so good.

Yeah, that's why I said when you said Miami or LA, I said New York. Right, right. God damn it. God damn it. Yeah, yeah. But I love Miami because it has the Jamaican climate. Yes. And the palm trees and the big batty galley.

We all feel very Caribbean here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very Caribbean. Yeah, yeah. Can I say very demure? Demure? I don't know. It sounds very mindful.

Right. Yeah, moving on. Okay. So what is it? Garnet, sis? Garnet? Garnet? Garnet.

Like one of the most dangerous hoods. Garrison. We call it garrison. Garrison. You know what a garrison is? That's like a forward. It's just a real word from back in Roman. Yeah, military.

From the military. It's military. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So garrison. And you was locked up in there. You went to one of the toughest garr Roman, from the military. It's military, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, garrison, and you was locked up in there. You went to one of the toughest garrisons, though, Tivoli. That's what I was telling you. Big me up.

Yeah, man, that's no joke. Bro. But you were locked up there. Yeah. And then that night, when he came to see you, Buster Rhymes shot a video there that night? This nigga Buster, the man came to the fucking prison, which is in another garrison called Southside. Okay, that's what I was trying to get to.

Yeah. Okay. And he shot the video outside the prison. I'm in the prison talking to the G on my phone, on my cell, in my cell. Like, yeah, man, stand up there so me, I'm going to send two men come link you. So I'm telling him I'm going to send two dogs to come link him, make sure he's safe. And yeah, it was crazy, man. Yo, Buster.

Yo, Buster. Give him a clap. That's my chief, man. That's my brother. Big up, Buster. He's never scared, man. He represents for cartel. He represents for Danso. Right. Yeah, so big up, Buster. Yes.

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telling people, Vibes Cartel is the next man. Yo, please, get on Vibes Cartel. I remember this shit from the beginning. He believes in me, man. Trust me. Not only believes in you, he loves you on some real

family thing. Yeah, man. And we spoke about believes in you he he like he loves you on some yeah some real life yeah my family family yeah yeah yeah yeah man and and you you we spoke about how y'all met right yeah yeah yeah yeah uh but once he came to jamaica we was like okay instant okay because the respect and remember he's just he's just american right so it's both his parents jamaica but he was born in brooklyn right so he's basically you can't tell him that he's basically jamaica if you're born in Brooklyn. So he's basically Jamaican. He's basically Jamaican. If you're born in Brooklyn, nigga, you are Jamaican. Even if your parents are from fucking Dubai. Once you

in Brooklyn, you Jamaican. I'm in Miami, I couldn't get a Cravenay. All they had was this. Marlboro. If I'm in Brooklyn Cravenay is sold in every shop Guinness, this is Guinness right?

yeah Guinness, that's Jamaican our style, dragon, beer Red Stripe, Heineken that's not from Irish? yeah but remember Jamaica is a British colony it's a British colony yeah you want to smoke a cigarette?

Yeah, smoke a cigarette. Thank you, sir. The first man. The first man on Chink Champs to smoke a fucking cigarette. You calm down, Sonny D. If he's not the producer, he can't say shit. No, you can smoke. You can smoke.

Which is fucked up. No, which is fucked up. Because it's not Jamaican. So you, I don't know. That's not Jamaican? No, that's what I said. If I was in Brooklyn, I could have gotten the Jamaican cigarette, which is the Cravenay. Cravenay.

You can smoke the Cravenay. Even the comedian said it the other day. You better stop Cravenay. Even the comedian said it the other day. The man was like, oh, there are more Jamaicans in Brooklyn than Jamaica. And he's not lying. Because there's a lot of white people that go to Jamaica right now.

They're saying that there might be a Puerto Rico without Puerto Ricans in a little while. For real? There might be a Puerto Rico without Puerto Ricans. Because they're kicking all the Puerto Ricans out because of tax. Gentrification? Gentrification and...

Above the whole island. And tax purposes. Because if you live there for more than six months... It's a tax haven. Yeah, so if you live there for more than six months or seven months,

you don't have to pay no U.S. tax. That's crazy because in Jamaica, I think they work out a deal with the Chinese that you don't pay taxes on your business

for like five years. Wow. So say you're a Chinese guy, your business for like five years so say you're a Chinese guy right highly unlikely because you're dark skinned yeah but just say you're a Chinese guy he Chinese okay why do I keep using Japanese you come to Jamaica you open a business say you get five years, what do you call it? Grace period. Not to pay taxes. In the fourth year, you send for your cousin from fucking Beijing.

They replace him. And put him as the CEO of the company. And the company's not paying taxes. So the company's not paying taxes for another five years. And they bring the next one after. And then the next one after that. And that's when you have

the craziest Chinese Jamaicans ever. Exactly. Bamba class. I'm going to be honest's when you have the craziest Chinese Jamaicans ever. Exactly. Bumba Clyde. I'm going to be honest with you. I see. I was watching, you know. This is a fake Bumba Clyde. That's not how we say it.

I was watching a construction site in Jamaica. Yeah. And then they had nothing but Chinese workers coming out. And a Jamaican guy was like, yo, man, look, they won't hire us. My thing is this. Okay. I have no problem with Chinese nationalism. The problem I have is with the lack of black people's nationalism.

Right. But we're not going to go that deep. Fuck it. It's string champs. Yeah, string champs. We're not going that deep. Fuck that. Things could be better. Things could be better. Yes, they tea. Nothing. We're not going that deep. Fuck that. Things could be better.

Things could be better. Yes, they can do better. They can do better. We already spoke about it. Did he just say the government can do better? You don't want me to go back to Jamaica, Ethan? Oh, no, my bad. Strike it from the river.

The government. No, but me and the government, good. They treat me good. Like I said, I came out, I changed up my whole thing, and I'm good. That's why I'm here now in America. Cheers to change.

That's right. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. And we know you're about to get married, but before that, let's talk about Sharty, boss. Yeah. Sharky.

Sharky, yeah. Two of your... Yeah, that's my baby mom. I've been with her since before I got famous and rich. But I mean, like I said, you see, prison is dangerous. Because you know when you go to prison, shit gets weird. And like I said, she held it for years. And then she couldn't hold it anymore.

You're talking about your baby mom? Yeah, obviously. What was he talking about him? She got caught slacking then. Yeah, but I still respect her. Because I understand human beings. Think about it. Human nature.

Okay, think about it. Your woman is in prison. One year goes by. No, let's not use you. You look like you fuck even when your woman is in prison. One year goes by. No, let's not use you. You look like you fuck even when your woman is at home. This dude looks like he's in the fucking, by the pool house fucking a bitch. But yeah.

But it's true. Because think about it. Even people that love me. Like she, I'm sure she loved me. Because she rode with me. Even when she was slacking, I could still jump on my phone in prison. Shorty, go to the bank. Shorty, make sure the lawyer gets that.

Pay this bill. Give this person money. And she was there right through. But come on, I'm in prison for fucking 30 years. do you expect her to do like save the pussy it's not a hedge fund but yeah yeah but I forgave her immediately right cuz I understand but I just had to move on right that's what, yeah, yeah. I'm big up to them. She's actually here. No, she's in Lauderdale

because I left her in Lauderdale. Oh, man. Yeah. That's super mature of you, too. For sure. Bro, she gave me three sons. Yeah. Come on.

Big up to her. I love her. She made me cry. Bro, bro. You know. I was in Brindle. The other person was like, why are you wearing a mask?

It's crazy, man. And that's what people love about me because I just speak my truth and then I put it in music. Fuck that. I only live once, man. So how you found out? My other baby mother.

My life is crazy. No, seriously, man. Other baby mother told me, oh, you fucking hyping up Shoddy. She fucking some guy around. Like, literally. Did you believe it when you heard it? No, I didn't.

You know men are idiots when they go to... When they were in love, they were fucking clowns. Am I lying, though? That's what I'm saying. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. She gave me my son's... They do music, though. That's what I'm saying. But yeah, yeah, yeah. She gave me my son's. They do music, too.

Little Vibes. Little Adzy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They do the music. And the other baby mom that told me, the snitch. She gave me a nice stuff. But yeah, I mean, well, I'm just living, man. Right, got that.

And I take the good, the bad, the ugly. Yeah, man, it's like, God is creative, you know. Yes. But everybody who was watching, right? Yeah. Like, you know, from the outside looking in, it looks like you never cracked. It looks like you never folded. While I was in prison, no.

Like I said, I cried twice. Right. Honestly, when Shorty, her mom died. Because Shorty's short, boss. When her mom died. Because she was at every court. Every time I was in court, she was there. She was there for you.

Even when I told her, don't come. Still showed up. She was still there. Bro, I cried like a bitch, man, when she died. And also when Mads' mom died. Because those women are like Gs in the community. You know what I mean? Matriarchs.

Yeah, they're matriarchs. Even Dapper Slice's mom. That's how Jamaica runs. Even those days when we was not behaving ourselves. And when the cops came, Dapper's mom was naked. Oh, shit. Yeah, like, that was my most naked, like. Oh, shit. Yeah, like, they're innocent, fuck. Like, leave the community.

Like, Jamaica's another beast, man. Yeah, it's crazy. So, and the women, they represent for us. All right. Yeah, so, to black women, man. Goddamn. Give it up, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, man.

It is what it is. No one smoke. I've never seen someone smoke red smoke. Yeah, man. It is what it is. No one smokes. I've never seen someone smoke. No, no. No, no, no. Well, Dave is a different beast, man. He's my favorite comedian. We were at his spot.

Yeah, you were in fucking Michigan. Ohio. Yeah, I watched that. It was Black Star. Black Star. Yeah, and that guy, Mos Def. Yeah.

Yo, Mos Def, bad, you know. Yo. He's like a sizzler, a bunch of banter. How he raps, he's like... Nah, he's prolific. A bunch of banter. Yeah. Like, he's deep.

Yeah, very deep. Without trying. Without trying. Like, it's very nonchalant. That was a good interview, though, with Mos Def, Dave Chappelle, and... Talib. Talib. Talib.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, he didn't like Kanye was breaking about his hat. Oh, Talib? Yeah. Dave Chappelle and... Talib. Talib. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, he didn't like Kanye. He was breaking about his hat. Oh, Talib? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he seems like he's a fucked up guy. But his music is amazing.

Yeah, man. Yeah. Even Dave said it. Like, this nigga is fucking... Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's crazy. He's like Jordan. Like, I was watching an interview with Chameleon here.

Uh-huh. The first time he met Jordan. And Jordan was... He was like Jordan. I was watching an interview with Chameleon here. The first time he met Jordan. And Jordan was, he was like, Jordan, can I take a picture? And Jordan was like, nigga, you got money? Or some shit, yeah. The story's about Jordan. He got a story with Jordan. You know the funniest story about him?

I think it was Jadakiss was saying he was dapping everyone. And like, the dude was like, yo, is this, like, he picked up. I'm like, is this dude with you? And Jadakiss was like, nah. You know he has that raspy voice. He was like, nah, they all know that nigga. He said, you went back to the nigga. I was like, you?

That rewind motherfucker. Bro, I've never. Bro, that's crazy. Man, you? He's a lot of room in Jamaica. Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy, man.

Yeah, so shout out Norby. Shout out Jada, man. So shout out Norris. Shout out Jada. I actually spoke to him. Jada? Yes. Okay. While I was in the national stadium in Jamaica. Oh, wow. I don't remember.

Someone put him on FaceTime. Yeah. Wow. And we was talking, yeah. Big up Jada. Yeah, I'm not for spectacles. Because I'm just being honest, man. When you say you're the world boss, it means it, man.

Yeah, man. Like it means it. I mean, like you said earlier, you said the people who named you that. Yes. I like that. The thing about it is, you know, everyone in here, it's every nationality in this goddamn room. Yes, man. Because everybody wanted to be here to make

sure we give you your flowers. Because you deserve this. You are the world boss. Blood plot. Yeah, man. I like that. Yeah, man. We so happy.

It's so inspirational for a person from the hood that can maybe make a wrong turn. Take that turn and then come home and then reestablish. I didn't hear you complain. No, no bitterness. I didn't hear you no bitterness. I hear bitterness. I didn't hear you no bitterness.

I hear you straight. No, no, no bitterness. You came home, went straight back. Yeah. And it's amazing. It's amazing, like, to see what you're doing, to see how people are following you. And it's real. It's like you don't even have to claim your throne.

No, no, no, no, no. The people claim it for you. Thank you, sir. And that's what's crazy about it. You know what I mean? But is this anything you will... I know you said you don't have no regrets. Regrets, yeah.

But is there anything you thought you could do better? What was one of those things? Watch short boss pussy more like i should have put dudes on her like private eyes like undercover fucking agent to watch the pussies that's bad time and i'm gonna be When I met Sidem, that's my current fiance now, it was 2015. July 25th. You met while you was in jail? Yeah.

At that time, me and Shorty was going through a lot. Because remember, I'm in prison. I'm fighting Graves' disease. Even now I have it. That's why I wear my shades. Because sometimes even now we're smoking, my eyes will irritate me. My eyes will get swollen. Yeah, straight up.

Cause we're human. You know what I mean? And Shorty, Siddem was there for me. And like I said, I understand Shorty's perspective. Think about this, you're in prison two years. I'm going to hold it. And she did. Three years, four years, five years. Six?

Seven? Bro, eight? Nigga, nine? Dog, ten? Come on, man. So that's for me, like, I'm a realist. And what would you originally send this to? How many years?

Thirty fucking five, bro. It was life, man. It was life. Yeah, 35 before parole. So I would have, if things went how they wanted it, I would still be in prison. So, like I said, and Sidem was there

for me. We spoke on the phone night after night. Days on days, she was there. And in Jamaica, when someone represents for you while you're in prison, you don't forget that, bro. You're going to hell. So, but my thing is this. I understand people,

which is one of the things that has made me be a great artist. I understand people, human nature. Right, right. So I could never be angry at my baby mom. I love her still, respect her, because she raised my kids kids and based on the the person that i was a lot of people would expect my children to be gangsters in the streets shooting guns whatever whatever she held them down man none of my son like i said i was in

prison with movado's son who is my son's best friend. A lot of people don't know that. So even when me and my father was at it, feuding, fighting, and the whole Jamaica was divided, like his son and my son were. That's crazy. I'm telling you, bro. Even when I was in prison, my father's son was like, yo, say hi to Jaheim for me.

Da-da-da-da-da. Yeah, so big up, big up, my father's son. Enough respect respect enough love to the goalie god yeah man it's Dante free Dante I want to talk about that period because I feel like we just breezed over

no period that's a monthly thing for Fiji yeah I want to talk about that time we just breezed over it. Back time, sir. We fucked up in Jamaica like that. Gaza versus Gully. It got so serious where the government had to

intervene. The government stepped in. They weren't giving us permits to do concerts. They shut that shit down. They were like, bro, but funny enough when mavado and i were at the the the king's house which is where the government is so we were there and they were like yo you need to shut this down let the kids know because the kids took it very seriously like biggie small tupac he versus West? 2.0 in Jamaica. I'm not even joking.

I'm talking about this. I remember. You know that. He knows that. And the government was like, bro, we will shut you guys down. Stop fucking about. But them times when they took a break in the meeting and me and my father was in the government building. And we were like yo

look where music brought us and that's when we had a moment and it was like yo we need to fix this and we did for a few months Because you had another intervention. Yes. So what happened? The war started again. Why? Because we're black people and we have ego. And we come from bucking and now we're rich. So you know what black man and his ego. Of course. We have something to prove. But yeah, man, and we did the fighting again, round two.

The government came in. They did us. I mean, they shut down everything and then Dados Tivoli yeah Tivoli he was like yo let me speak to you guys and we did the meeting and he was like yo

for real man we need to chill when Dados come home soon right? yeah he got arrested in 2010 yeah it was a big thing in Jamaica a lot of people died He's going to let us come home soon, right? Yeah, he got arrested in 2010. Oh, so he should be coming home. Yeah, it was a big thing in Jamaica. A lot of people died. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know about that.

But I'm saying he should be coming home soon, right? Yes, he should be. I don't know when, but yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought he had 10 minutes. That's crazy, man. Dancehall, the people in Jamaica, they love dancehall. They take music seriously. Which is good because that's why, if you're a star in Jamaica, you're a star forever.

You have no expiration date. That's how much we love music. You're revered. Right, right. Yes, you're revered. And I go as far as to say this. Literally like worship like next to Jesus. You know what I mean?

What was it like? If you're a star in Jamaica, you're a star all over the world. That's true. That's true. Yeah, because I'm just the world. That's true. Because I'm just being honest. As your cousin, I see the influence that Jamaica has around the world. Around the world. Not just as entertainers.

Remember Marcus Garvey? Marcus Garvey, that's right. He toured the entire Latin America. That's why we big in Panama. We big in Latin America, Costa Rica, Venezuela. Minister Farrakhan is from Jamaica. He's Jamaican. He's not from Jamaica, but he's Jamaican.

Yeah, he has his Jamaican heritage. Because remember, like I said, funny enough, Marcus Garvey, you know who was his right-hand man? Elijah Muhammad. He used to run the Detroit office of the UNIA for Marcus Garvey no joke I kid you not that's crazy Jamaicans have always had that influence in America

with our cousins the African Americans have always had that influence and like I said the honorable Elijah Muhammad was Marcus Garvey's point man in Detroit. And for people that don't know, that's the founder of the Nation of Islam. Exactly. He's the founder of the Nation of Islam.

And Malcolm X's father was Marcus Garvey's right-hand man. You know they tied him to a train track and let the train run over him, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy, man. I man. Wow. You know they tied him to a train track and let the train run over him, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy, man. I remember. Yeah. How can you remember you weren't there? No, no, I'm talking about reading it.

Yeah, yeah, me too. I'm talking about reading it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Literary. Literacy. Yeah. Literary. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Is that in Malcolm X's autobiography? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where I read it. Alex Halley. To be honest. But look, yeah. That's where I read it. Yeah, yeah. That's where I read it. Alex Halley. To be honest. That's where I read it. Look at the book. You can tell that there's influence by the cover of the book.

Yeah, I did this literally. Look, Malcolm X, The Pose, which is the album. Bob Marley did this pose as well. So I'm sure he was into it. Because Bob Marley sang a lot of Marcus Garvey philosophies. He put it to music. And he put the speech that he made at the United Nations. Sometimes it wasn't called the United Nations.

It was called, I don't remember. United niggas. United niggas. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. Bob Marley, give me a hug. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So Bob Marley, that's why Bob Marley is so powerful. Because you know he's mixed. His dad is white. Yeah, yeah, I'm white. His mom is black. So he had to navigate

through that racial tension back in the day when in the 70s in Jamaica, 60s, if you were light-skinned, you were kind of frowned upon. Yeah, so, man, we love Bob, though. Like, our generation, respect Bob. He represented for Marcus Garvey.

He represented for Selassie. Highly Selassie. Yeah, even when I was in L.A., like, the Ethiopians, they came to the hotel, Cartel, we love you, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But let me ask you, I asked this to Chris Brown. Mm-hmm.

Oh, represent, big up Chris Brown. He won fucking Grammys, man. He won the Grammys. Yeah, yeah. My favorite song on the album is Residual. Who said yes? I knew, yes. Yeah, big up Chris Brown, man.

Okay. Yeah. So, ask Chris Brown, man. Why do I not have a drink at a drink challenge? Come on, come on. You slacking, Brown. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Bro, the Browning is slacking.

You know Browning, right? Light skin girls in Jamaica, we call them Browning. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. That's a Aussie boy. Which is the Boucher Bites. Browning, right? Like skin girls in Jamaica, we call them browning. Okay. Which is the Buju Bison made that famous when he did browning. He called browning.

The whole Jamaica wanted to fuck him. It was like Buju. And then he did Black Woman. A song called Black Woman. Remember? You know, stop crying if you heard Black Woman. Remember? You know, stop crying. It's not Black Woman. Yeah. Yeah.

So that's it. It's crazy, bro. Yeah. Dine Saul, we set the trend. Yes. And we navigate the culture. Yes. So big up, big up all that legend then.

Yeah, man. Okay, before I get into this, right? Yeah. Now, the second festival. Yes. Freedom Street. Yeah. Oh, shit. You said London, right? Yeah. Now, the second festival. Yes. Freedom Street. Yeah. Oh, shit. You said London, right? Yes.

Okay, let's forward to the third. To the third one. Yes. Let's say it's in Miami. Yeah. Who would you put book on that Freedom Street? Code Up Black. Mmm. And he's Caribbeanibbean as well

we love Haitians in Jamaica and Haitians have always been because Caribbean the most powerful countries in the Caribbean like Jamaica, Haiti, Trinidad Haitian Black New York Haitian Black, okay

Haitian Jack sorry, it's the fucking wrong Haitian Jack yes sir fucking room. Yeah. The female. The female. The female. The fucking room. Asian. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Asian Jack. Right. Yes, sir.

Oh, man. Yeah, man. The culture is real in the Caribbean, man. Yeah. And we share the love. Yes. I was in Trinidad

the other day. I was launching the Straight Vibes. So we launched it in Trinidad, Guyana, Barbados, St. Lucia,

and I'm doing the Send Kids music festival. So we're launching it there as well. Congratulations. We heard that's Guyana, Barbados, St. Lucia, and I'm doing the St. Kitts music festival, so we're launching it there as well. Congratulations. When you came home, at first we heard you was in St. Kitts. Yes, no, St. Vincent. Because I went to visit the Prime Minister, he sent

for me some private jets, everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I am. I'm starting like Jackie Chan. Because he does his own stunts, right? So yeah, we went to St. Vincent, met the Prime Minister. He calls himself World Boss. The Prime Minister?

The Prime Minister of St. Vincent. Fucking fun fact. I got a call from the Prime Minister of Guyana. He was like, Cartel, me and you is the world boss. Oh, shit. Not that guy. They want Renata.

Yeah. Because that's how, that's what I'm saying. It's like the unity among the Caribbean islands. It's like Japan. You know, they have like a million islands,

but they're still Japanese. Right. Like Okinawa. Okinawa, Sapporo, Nagoya. a million islands, but they're still Japanese. Right. Like Okinawa. Okinawa, Sapporo, Nagoya. You know what I mean? So that's how the Caribbean is. We have that unity, you know, the calypso, the dancehall. At least among the English-speaking Caribbean.

Hey, man, bring Cuba in there, bro. We need help in Cuba. You know this, that's why I said English-speaking. The Cubans and Jamaicans are still very good. There's a part of Cuba that there's a lot of Jamaicans in. Nine out of 10 doctors in Jamaica are Cuban. Yeah, yeah. Because, you know, they do good medicine, right?

Right. Yeah, because they get it from the Soviets. Well, not Soviet now, because that shit is over. The Russians. Yeah, you remember USSR, right? Yeah, Reagan fucked that shit up. Do you eat doubles? What? Do you eat doubles?

I love doubles. Doubles is like fucking... No, seriously. Doubles in Trinidad is like jerk chicken in Jamaica. That's why when he said jerk chicken or curry chicken, I had to take the shot. Right? Oh, I like

that girl. Who is she? Oh, Trini. We lime in. She knows the Trini. You real pretty gal. That's my best Trini impression. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, we lime in dread. I know. Dreamini impression. Shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're lightning dread. I know. Dream champs. Forever. But you fuck with doubles. What's your favorite version of doubles? My favorite version of doubles is the one that that dude don't like. Oh, no.

But seriously, though. But yeah. Like, when I've been to Barbados I had shark Bacon shark or something In Jamaica we have crocodiles You can eat the crocodile tail You ever had that?

This is Florida, I'm sure you like You don't eat crocodile? I tell you Yeah, yeah, yeah How the fuck you not eat crocodile? That's racist. That's alligatorism. That's alligatorism.

No, Skilly Bank. Yeah, big brother Skilly Bank. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, that's how we do it. You know what I mean? It's crazy. Yeah, yeah. I know.

Oh, my bad. Yeah, I know. So, can you explain to people that listen to this, I know My bad Yeah I know So Can you explain to people That listen to this Listen to the reggae music They listen to dancehall music They listen to the

Rastafari culture Yes You can love reggae You can love dancehall You don't have to be A Rastafari No no Okay

Oh no Even Morgan Heritage They had a big song in Jamaica You don't have to dread to be Rasta. Because remember, this is the dreads. I mean, this is fucking fake. But it's human here. I got this

from my brothers in Africa. I don't know who died and gave this. Oh my God. World boss! Yeah. Yeah. Reggae music is the DNA for Jamaica. So is dancehall.

Because remember, like I said, dancehall came out in the 70s. 74, 75, 76. I was born in 76. So I'm a product of dancehall. And also the Cold War. Because remember, the USSR and the USA, they had that thing. And that's what honestly brought that level of violence to Jamaica and changed the culture.

And then when the violence came, you needed an art form to express it. And that's how dance dance hall was birthed. Who were those first early dance hall artists in the 70s? King Stitch. Big Ute. Which Big Ute's son is the lawyer that got me free.

Think about that. He's one of the first DJs. And his son freed the number one DJ. Isaac Buchanan think about that, that's crazy the appeal and when he was in law school he was telling his friends

that I'm going to free the vibes cartel and he actually did what is it what is it the DPL JLP and the PNP What is it? What is it? The DPL? What is it?

The two political parties? Oh, JLP. JLP. And the PNP. And the PNP. Yeah, the JLP is the political party. The Labor Party. They were conservative. Yeah, they were conservative.

So they were Reagan at the time. So you had basically like Russia's camp and America's camp. Which is the PNP. Basically. That's why PNP. Basically. That's why PNP, even to this day, they call themselves socialists. Right. That's why you're saying the violence started. Yeah, from the edge.

Cold War, remember the Cold War? Just like Nicaragua with the Contras. Proxy War. The Contras and the Sandinistas. Sandinistas, yeah. Sandinistas. So it was that proxy war all over the place. Happened in Congo, too, with Lumumba.

Happened in Kenya with Kenyatta. So it's that thing, like over the place. Happened in Congo, too, with Lumumba. Happened in Kenya with Kenyatta. So it's that thing, like, you know what I mean? You are the teacher, man. I am. You are teaching me your bad shit. I ain't going to lie to you. It is what it is, man. I'm sitting there like this, playing in my program.

That's why the people love me, because they believe in me. Because I'm not going to bullshit them. I keep it real. And I sing my truth. And since I grew up in Jamaica, my truth is Jamaica's truth. It is what it is. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding.

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I'll give it right back to you, Ross, right? So let me ask you, when Escobar was locked up, right? They said that like one night every two or three months, he would come out, he would do something. Yes. Within your 13 years of doing the vid. I got lots of pussy. Oh, damn.

I didn't go there. Oh, sorry. The answer to the right question. If you had, like how Escobar did, he came out one night every two months. If you ever had one night. You talking about Pablo? Yeah, Pablo. I'm sorry.

There's only one Escobar. Well, I'm Jamaican. We know Pablo. As a matter of fact, remember you said Vibes Cartel was a group. Yeah. Where you think you got the name Cartel?

Yeah, yeah, Cartel, yes. From Escobar. Cali. Cali Cartel. Yes. Yeah, yeah. So if you... Like, every two months,

if you could come out and do one thing within your 13-year bid, what was that one thing you would do? Hug my kids, man. Damn, that's a gangster ass. Hug my kids. Hug my kids. Pussy wasn't the problem.

I don't know if I can say this now. No, you can say it. Because I'm free. Double jeopardy, you can't take me back. So yeah, pussy wasn't a problem. Pussy was... So you was fucking problem Pussy was Not all the time Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, exactly Yeah man

That's the only thing Because remember in Jamaican prisons If it's not Family day Your children can't come and see you Oh wow Because if you're not 18 years old If it's not family day, your children can't come and see you. Oh, wow. Because if you're not 18 years old, you can't come to visit me on a regular day. Oh, wow.

They have things that they keep on family day, which is like in Christmas. You know what I mean? You need to see your kids on Christmas. Easter. Yeah, so we got like twice a year. I got to see my kids. kids wow yeah yeah so that's crazy but like women whatever that's but that wasn't on the top of my to-do list my to-do list was to raise my fucking kids even from behind behind bars. Even from behind bars.

And that's why I say to you, my baby mom, like Shorty, I give her her props. She did her job. I made sure, even though I was who I was, my kids didn't emulate my lifestyle. You know what I mean? Right. My daughter, like, she wants to be a doctor. She's doing well in school and so on. So that's what I respect about my baby mothers.

They weren't just, they put in the work. Respect, respect. How many kids total? I got it, huh? How many kids total? That I got? Like seven. Seven.

I have two in Brooklyn, you know. In Flatbush. That's what I'm saying. That's why when you said Miami or LA, I said New York. My children are in Flatbush. That's what I'm saying. That's why when you said Miami or LA, I said New York. My children are in Flatbush. I've got two sons in Flatbush right now. You got blood clots.

Brooklyn forever. You know, Brooklyn is little Jamaica. Even though you're a Queens nigger. Yes, yes, yes. We dug a block. You, 50.y, enough love. Yes, enough love. Come on.

Come on. That's it. That's it, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know you say you don't regret nothing. And I can't. Because I'm still alive at 49 years old. What the fuck is there to regret?

Come on, man. I came out of prison. Freedom Street. I kept Freedom Street with this white guy from Jamaica. It's called Joe Bogdanovich. He's not from Jamaica. It's obvious. He's from California, which is Scatter, my other road manager.

He's there. Big up Scatter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we was planning. Yeah. So we planned Freedom Street from behind bars. That's how confident I was that I was coming out. My fiancée, see them, I sent for her in 2022.

I was like, come live in Jamaica. She's from England. She was like, oh, my God, I don't know. So my girl, Maritza, fuck. Come on, y'all. english she was like oh my god i don't know so my girl maritza so she came i got her an apartment got her arranged over gave her some money opened her bank account and she came because like i said i've i've known her since 2015. So she came to Jamaica. Yeah, yeah. And she's been here ever since. She's with me now. She's in Lauderdale.

Right. Yeah, so. Make some noise for her. Yeah, man. She was there. And this is how I know she was real. Even when I came out and I started posting her more often, her friends from England was like,

yo, the high school see them would be proud of you cause since she was in high school she was like oh I'm gonna marry Vibes Cartel oh shit bro I'm serious my life is like a fucking a Netflix fucking series right

man you make it cool to have a girl again. Yeah, yeah, I'm a one-burner. In Jamaica, one-burner is kind of derogatory because that means you only have one woman. And in Jamaica, that's fucking frowned upon. Oh, shit. Yeah, like, nigga, what the

fuck you doing? So, big up Sid M. Okay. She was like, big up Sid M Okay She was like big up Sid M Yeah You're making it hard for me Yes When you left

You're making it hard for me Your kids was in single digits Yeah when I left prison They was children When I came out they gave me grandchildren You're writing motherfucking interview. Yeah. That's exactly what I said.

That's crazy. Congratulations. Yeah, they gave me grandchildren. All right. Except my daughter because she know I would slap the shit out of her. I'm joking. I'm joking. It's the alcohol.

He's like, funny not funny. Funny not funny. Yeah. But she's a yeah, yeah. But she's a genius, though. She's an A-grade student. She's like a head girl, a prefect, whatever. She wants to be a doctor.

So I told her she needs to invent something better than Viagra. Right? Come on, man! Stop it! Stop it! So how did the chef smile? right give it come on man stop it stop it so how does even the chef is smiling how does it feel um

to be a grandpa I mean how does it how does it feel I mean because I have my notes there hold on I gotta finish

deliver it how does it feel because they were single digits then they got double digits, and they gave you a... How did it feel when they told you you're going to be a grandfather? It was amazing. I was in prison at the time. Right.

So I've never seen my grandson. So when they kept the family day, which is when you can bring your family there. So they came and my grandson, he met me. He was like, I don't know you, nigga. You know what I mean? Crying and crying and shit gave him a piece of chicken he took the chicken i still don't know you nigga well it was great so when i came out he like that's when he started embracing me right because he saw how his dad his mom and everybody that he knew embraced me. So it was like, oh, fuck it, man. Yeah, this nigga is fucking gray beards

and shit. And then my son gave me a granddaughter. Oh, wow. Then my other son gave me another granddaughter. Oh, you three grand? I got three grandchildren from my two sons. Okay, I got one.

But you're American. Okay, I got one. Oh. But you're American. Don't get no idea. In Jamaica, it's different. You just pussy, pussy, pussy. It's crazy. So, yeah, I got to big them up. Goddamn.

Right? Yeah, man. It's crazy. Little vibes. Bro, Yeah, yeah, man. It's crazy. Little vibes. Bro, I like Drinks Champ. Not just for the drink, but for the question. For the conversation. Yeah, the conversation.

Drinks Champ is everything I thought it would be, because like I said, I was in prison watching everything. I watched the Neo interview, the Bush interview, the Beanie Man video. I watched all of that. And not Neo interview, the Bush interview, the Beanie Man interview. I watch all of that. And not just me, the entire prison. You watch Korda Black? No, but I

respect him. Yo, Korda Black is, like I said, he's Asian. He's fucking crazy. That's the Caribbean breeze. I think something is in the wind that makes us fucking crazy, bro. Look at Cardi B. You invited Cardi B to your wedding?

Yes. I would love her to be there. And who else you want to perform at your wedding? Bujabantan. I told you guys. He's my number one artist. So Bujabantan and Cardi B. Have you spoken? You and Buju since you've been out? Yeah, but we haven't met up. Really? No, I'm serious.

I met Bounty Killer when he was at fucking Freedom Street. That's the first time I saw him since I came out. Remember this guy made me rich and clean. Yeah, yeah. And that's when Bounty Killer said,

he's the king of the dance hall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said, king has risen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, man. But to be honest, is he Bounty? I'm the king of dance hall, but bounty is the king of artists.

Think about it. This man made so many people. If you know the Bible, he's like Abraham. Because remember, Abraham created Christianity, Islam, and Judaism. That's why they call him Abraham. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Think about it that's about to kill yeah bounty killer is father abraham bruh i'm telling you bro yo you know what

give me a clap for bounty please come in question i'm telling you so all right so we got a beanie man big up yourself beloved remember like i. Remember, I can't lie. I'd rather not say shit. So like I said, Bounty, Beanie, Bujo, Ninja Man, Cartel, that's the top five for me. I love that he put himself in the top five. That's the top five. He said, and me. And me. Why would I leave me out?

No, I love you. You got to love me. Come on. Why would I leave you out? This is crazy. Holy shit. out and we got my manager tj yeah yeah yeah yeah and scat that's my road manager yeah but with tj we call him the grinch, and this is why. No, he steals happiness, which is good. Because remember, you know, Nari, we're artists. If you leave us unattended, we fuck ourselves up. So that's why he's the balance.

You know what I mean? So big up TJ. He's the Grinch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got to give him props. He keeps me grounded. He keeps me focused., he keeps me focused, and he keeps me in check.

The eye on the prize. Yeah, the eye on the prize. But he's not sitting, fuck you, nigga. That's why, bro, that's why when we finish this interview, I want to play you a record, because I need vibes on the record. With Harry. Yeah!

Yeah! Woof, woof, woof, woof, woof, woof, woof, woof, woof, woof. Yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. I got to take another shot. If you have it, you don't have to take one.

No, I have one. I just want to take some more of this fever. I want to take some more of this fever. I have two fucking... What the fuck is this? Hey, look who, look who I'm saying. This was poured by a feminist.

Yes, yes. We all feel that. Yes. But look, let me just tell you something. We're going to tap the champagne. Hold on. I've cheered you like five times.

The champagne is at the same height. Yeah, you covered that, Michael. At the same height? At the same height. You just said you keep refilling at the same height. That's some AI shit. To AI.

To AI. To AI. To AI. This thing is all shit. Lemon peel. He got AI shit. To AI. To AI. To AI. You got AI drinks. That's the Jamaican champagne. That's AI. She's very fucking... I like her. She's the official...

Yeah, yeah, she's ours. Welcome to the... Nari, you know you're huge in Jamaica. Yes, I know a lot. Jamaica, yes. You need to come to Jamaica. I'm coming. I was going to listen.

No, not Montego Bay. No, no, no, stop. No, you're going to come. I've been. To do this with you. We was going to see you. I know, I know, I know. Let me tell you something.

We was going to see you, and then the next 20 minutes, they. Let me tell you something. We was going to see you and then the next 20 minutes they said, Bob's got to tell God he's got his visa. Exactly. But we were on our way to see you. So you was in Montego Bay,

but the part of Montego Bay where you were in is the tourist part. You have the streets of Montego Bay. We was ready for Kingston. They love you. No, but that's what I'm saying.

Kingston and Montego Bay is one and the same. It's just like New York, LA. No, we were ready to go'm saying. Kingston and Montego Bay is one and the same. It's just like New York, L.A. No, we're ready to go. It's like Brooklyn, Compton. The hood is everywhere. Before the fucking TJ. When they call when the white gentrification.

Yeah, TJ, can you sit over there? Because he's been looking for you for over there. Yeah, TJ. TJ, you're fucking this shit up. In Jamaica, the number one meme in Jamaica is Ask TJ. Ask TJ. Because everything I say, I'm like, Ask TJ. That's the number one meme in Jamaica right now.

But he's my manager. Yes, let's make some noise for Tim. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We gotta do that. And this is why, Steve, my first manager was the guy that introduced me to Bounty Killer. Remember I was telling you that?

So we stopped. The guy that drove you to him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, literally. He was your manager then after that? Yeah, he was old fucking Nissan. Okay. And I do the american pronunciation nissan so i i parted ways with him in 2020 2004 and i've been my own manager since so everything i've done

since then all the greatness all the dance all greatness Wow I did it by myself when I came out I made him my manager because I've known him since he was in high school in Jamaica you have the ghetto hardcore fire then you have the up we call it uptown uptown in Jamaica means you grew up privileged. Like my children, they grew up privileged because I started making money. But I'm from the ghetto, he grew up privileged. So his father is from the ghetto, made sure his children grew up good. Right.

Fire. Yeah. So when I met him, he was just out of high school. And he had a big annual event called Orientation. So you know that's about school orientation, right? It's a school party dance where you dress up in your school uniform if you went to fucking whatever. So my nickname was The Teacher, and that's how I met him. And he was like, yo yo I'm keeping a party

I want The Teacher to pass through Because it's called Orientation Then he started producing I gave him his first record He got Idonia Which is also a big artist in Jamaica And then he became a famous producer Yeah yeah yeah exactly

Skata which is my road manager He's actually here as well He introduced me to Idonia a famous producer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Scatta, which is my road manager, he's actually here as well. He introduced me to I Don't It. So, and then we get, we show the love, give the respect

because bro, Bounty Killer made me fucking rich so I don't have a problem to pay forward. Right. Because Bounty Killer made me

be able to take care of my family, move them out the ghetto, put them in some fucking mansions. So then we pay forward. So Scatta brought me to Idonia. I brought Idonia to Bounty Killer. And the rest is history. You know what I mean?

Big up Scatta. Yeah, man. When's the last time you smoked an American blind? I haven't. You roll this? Oh, yeah. Should I smoke it? I'm on a visa. If you fuck me up, American

Embassy in Jamaica. No, but you're American, so... It was rolled by a Peruvian. You rolled it? Peru, Peru. Yo, my shit is legal. Ice might come get Boris.

Boris is legal. So basically, you're telling me that this is only tobacco. Yes. Okay, thank you, sir. It's only tobacco, people. It's only tobacco. And you know how slave it goes. Tobacco is king. Yes, hold on.

Disclaimer. If you're not black, you can't slave it was. Tobacco is king. Yes. Hold on. Disclaimer. If you're not black, you can't say nigger. Right. Your vibes. Disclaimer. I want to, you know, commend you because I see when you first came home, when you battling Graves' disease. Yeah.

And now you did the show and you looking amazing. Yeah. You feeling great. Yeah. Who could you contribute that to? No. First of all, that's an amazing question. Because in the black community, speaking on illness is like taboo.

Yeah. Right. Because we had to be strong, especially mental illness. And I spoke on that the other day, but that's a good question. While I was in prison, I was diagnosed with Graves' disease in 2014. Can you explain what it is? Graves' disease is an autoimmune disease. It affects your pituitary glands.

And I said pituitary because I'm drunk. But I would say this, though. Jamaicans, you know this statement. Time drunk, but time not full. So Graves' disease is an autoimmune thyroid disease that affects your... It makes you sweat a lot. It makes your heart palpitate.

It makes your eyes swollen. That's why I keep wearing my shades. Well, I used to wear my shades because I learned from bounty killers. But it's very dangerous. Remember, I was in prison. I was battling Graves' disease. I had to balance my career. I had to keep my family in check

I had to keep my relationship in check I had to be producing music So anyone that has Graves' disease I think Missy Elliott had it too Okay, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah We're human, bro And a lot of people think

Because we're artists, we're super bro and a lot of people think because we're artists we're super human which we are but we still get affected so I just want people to know that whatever illness you have, whether it's grave disease whether it's cancer, whether it's HIV whatever, don't be afraid

to embrace it and live your life because you only have one, I think Irv Gotti passed away. He just passed away. Rest in peace. 54, that's young, bro. And this is for the millennials, the Gen Z. When I was like 14, 15, back in the day, I thought that 50 years old was old.

Right. Bro, I'm 49. I feel as young as ever. 49 years. I feel as young as ever, right? Yeah. All you need to do is, right? Yeah. Yeah. All you need to do is take care of yourself.

Right. Eat properly. Drink plenty of water. Have sex a lot. You'll be all right. It is what it is. But yeah. But like I said, man, having an illness shouldn't be taboo because we're humans.

We live, we die. So if you're sick, whether it's a mental problem, talk to someone. I even did a video the other day about mental health. That's huge, man. Yeah, because a lot of us, especially the ones that bring joy to people, are the ones that's suffering the most. Because I'm looking at Nori. You bring joy to me. Because I grew up listening to you, even though you're not older than me.

But you played an important role in a specific part of my life. Thank you. You understand? But that doesn't mean you're not human. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And now you're this one.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But we're still human. Yeah, you're right. Vulnerable. And if you're vulnerable, don't be afraid to speak to people

because that's a lot. That's one of the problems with the African-American and the Afro-Caribbean community because it's taboo. Yeah, we feel like we got to be strong all the time. No! That's one of the problems with the African-American and the Afro-Caribbean community. Because it's taboo. Yeah, we feel like we got to be strong all the time. No!

You can be vulnerable, bro. You can talk to your mother. You can talk to your girlfriend. But then why do you love her, bro? Right. Why do you love her and spend money on her and put her in your fucking house, but you're afraid to talk to your woman, bro? It's real. You know what I mean?

Taking a shot to that. Yeah, bro. Shit, this is empty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, the shot empress is here. Yes. That's your new nickname. Shot empress. But, bro, trust me, man. It's real. Like I said, I sing my truth.

That's why I mentioned Eva Graves' disease in my song. Because like I said, it inflames your body. That's why when I came out, you know, I had that inflammation in my face, my stomach. But, bro, we're human beings. I have no shame in my game, man. Like I, my stomach. But, bro, we're human beings. I have no shame in my game, man. Like I speak my truth. It is what it is. And black people take fucking certain illnesses as taboo.

We're afraid to talk about it because we were raised to be tough. Oh, you're a strong black woman. Why can't you be a feminine black woman and talk to your man? Talk to your friend. Why you have to be a G like all the time? I can't talk to FM?

I'll be like, FM, my dick isn't working properly. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. Hold on. Hear me out. Hear me out. No, I'm Jamaican.

Hear me out. This is no, no. No, no. No, no, no. Hear me out. This is serious. This is serious. I'm not 29. I'm 49. Right, right, right. Why can't I come to you if you're my brother? Why can't I come to you like, bro, I'm having problems with my wife.

Right. Because we have issues surrounding sex. I can only pop off once per night. Why can't I talk to you about it? And you make me feel comfortable talking about you, which is what AAA is, right? Hi, I'm Vibes Cartel. I'm an

alcoholic, or I'm Vibes Cartel, I'm a whatever. Once black people get, especially us as black people, based especially us as black people, based on our historical trauma, we're supposed to be able to speak to one another, bro. Come on, man.

We only live once, bro. Earth God is dead. Yeah. That's a piece of earth. He's not broke. He's rich. But he's dead. Michael Jackson is dead.

Can't take the blame. Yeah. rich, but he's dead. Michael Jackson is dead. You can't take the money. We as black people, we need to be able to speak to each other. And I learned this while in prison because anyone in Jamaica can tell you before prison, I was a fucking devil.

But growth and maturity taught me a lot of things. We need each other. That's why they made these groups and these AA. And group therapy is good because you're going through something that I'm going through. So you have questions and I have questions. Maybe you have the answer for some questions. Oh, why did she cheat on me?

I did everything right. You can maybe impart some knowledge onto why, because you've been there before me. Right. So you figured it out before. Bro, we living, man. A hundred years from now, we gone, dude. You know what I mean?

That's the mindset I have now, Nori. Hold on one minute. Before you get to that. Trust me, bro. Let's get a shot. All right. Yeah, man. No, no, no.

Let's drink. Oh, shit. Yeah, man. That's the mindset I have now, bro. Respect the mindset. Sorry, Irv. I got to honor you. Yeah, we live in that.

Respect the mindset. Yeah, man. We live in, bro. If it's not that, what's it for? Look, AI hooked him up, man. Look. Oh, yeah. What was the feeling? AI. What was the feeling when they said, you're leaving the jail, man?

How was that feeling? I'm from the ghetto. So you can't hype me up. So when the lawyer said to me, you're free, I was in prison. I was in my cell talking on my cell. Seriously. free, I was in prison. I was in my cell talking on myself. And when, no, seriously. And when Alessandra Labise, which is ISAT's right

hand, she said to me, I'm free. But I've been in prison for 13 years. I didn't want to hear from you, with all due respect. I wanted to hear from ISAT. Because he's the one that I'm paying. And when he called me and said I was free bro Tears man

Not on the front Tears bro I fucking cried Yeah So fuck you if you think that's bitch Bro No you can't I'm tough enough man

That's right Anyone that knows me in Jamaica knows that I'm not no fool. You got to get something in there. Because you know this is bad luck. No, I tried to play it off. Fuck you. Yo, Laurie, I tried to play it off. Yeah, I know you. Bro, I'm tears, man.

Because think about it. I couldn't cry while I was in prison. I had to take care of my family, my parents, my children, a lot of people around me, plus the guys that I was charged with. So I had no time to be weak because all of them

was coming to me. Jesus Christ. When are you coming out? You know what I mean? So I had to be strong for everyone. TJ. Ask him. There is even a meme in Jamaica where I say, ask TJ.

Yeah. Because when he used to call me, like, well, think about this. I'm in prison yeah sending money to my bank to western union to people in america to people in england look that's my responsibility and i had to do it people were dying around me we were fucking in prison losing many money. Son of a... But here, man, I was fighting for my freedom, for my life, for my health. Right. To keep my

family, to keep my woman from giving away the pussy. That's a serious... No, bro. Is she back? She moved on. Is she back? She moved on. No, I don't know. Yeah, I moved on. But I still take care of her. I still take care of her, still take care of all my baby moms

I'm a Jamaican You're either a fucking asshole Or you're a good person in Jamaica There's no in the middle You're either a fucking pussy Or you're a real one Vibes On some New York shit

How does Sedem feel about You taking care of all the baby moms? Well, initially, she was not cool. But when I explained it to her and she saw the predicament, my family was in. Because remember, you know, I'm the breadwinner. I made the million. We're talking about U.S. now. I made the millions. We're talking about US now. I made the millions. Yes.

Why would I want to see my baby mom suffer? Even though when I was in prison, going through the worst time of my life, she let me down. But it's human nature. If you don't believe in forgiveness, you're a fucking, bro, you shouldn't believe in forgiveness, you're a fucking... Bro, you shouldn't even be alive, bro.

Wow. For real. We make mistakes, bro. Okay. All right, you believe in forgiveness, so why you didn't just stay with her then? Because I'm a man first. And I told her I was there with you.

I'm like, I'm coming out. I'm coming out. I lost my trial I'm coming out. I'm coming out. I lost my trial. She was there. I'm coming out. I lost my Jamaican appeal. She was there. I'm coming out.

But before the British appeal could happen, she just gave it. And I can't blame her for that. If she was in prison, I would be fucking bitches the first day she got arrested. Right? So how can I hate her? Think about this. We're men. Think about

it. No, bro. Think about this. If she had got arrested on the 1st of January after I brought her fucking things to the jail. You would have went to the third no the first so we gotta keep it real

and that's what the problem with a lot of us as black people our egos are high and I get it we've been through a lot so we need to prove you know this Frank and fucking Tom don't need to prove shit but Jaquan and don't need to prove shit.

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She made me calm. She made me not feel the need to fucking you know what I mean that's the best thing I met her in 2015, July 25th I'll never forget and that time I'm saying before that me and my baby mom

was going through a lot I did an album for short it's literally called To Tanisha. Because her government is Tanisha. The album is To Tanisha. One of the biggest albums in the Caribbean. Any person from the Caribbean can tell you about that album. Just fucking go on their phone right now.

Did Carter do an album called To Tanisha? Yeah. Yeah, him lover lover she nearly mad him i love even now but sedem was there that's why when you asked me the question about loyalty it was easy to answer that doesn't mean that shawty was disloyal she was just human right that. That's real. Right, FN? Yeah. She was just human. 10 years? 11 years?

He's not coming out. But I'm going to be there for him because she always represented. I could call her any hours, 3 a.m. in the morning, Shorty, wake up. Take this money here. And she would go. Come on, man. and she would go come on man bro at what point we're going to be men and be like bro you fucked up

because she didn't send me to prison that was me wow that's deep she didn't send me to prison bro she was calling me come home we need to fuck

man those calls are amazing Nori you get what I'm saying so she didn't send me she never called nobody he's beating me fuck him no I went on my own so what am I going to do

and this is a thing too in Jamaica a lot of times I went on my own. So what am I going to do, bro? And this is a thing, too. In Jamaica, a lot of times, like, a lot of men in prison, their woman is cheating on them. They just send someone to kill her. To kill her? To kill the chick? And the man, yeah. It's a reality in Jamaica.

I'm not even making that up. Because Jamaica rough. Yeah. Why would I want to hurt my children's mother? She made me know that my dick was working. Because she gave me my first children, right? Yeah, yeah. And even a lot of times, even Siddham is like, oh, I think you still love her.

I'm like, yes, I love her. But I adore you and worship you. Different love. Different love. Yeah. I do. Yeah, you can have different love. That's real. She made me know that I was a man, that I could get kids.

So I love her. And I understand what she went through. Bro, even people that love me gave up. Come on, you're in prison 13 years, bro? Nah, she's your family. You got kids, but that's family. And I got 33 years. So she's like, huh?

33 years? Yeah, that's life to everyone else. And maybe you don't get out. If something goes wrong in prison, you might not get out ever. That's my problem, and she needs the doggy style thing. Human nature. That's human nature. So I could not

be angry. I understand. I've grown. I'm grown. I got arrested when I was 35. So over the, and I learned to appreciate God more and be more spiritual. That's why you see on my forehead,

I have love God. Wow. If you look here, I don't know if you can see it. You see devil. That was me back in the day. That's, that's my,

that was my nickname. Look, you see it? Yeah. Did you feel that you really embodied that? Bro, I was crazy. That's why I got in so much trouble. I was fucking wilding out. A million point oh.

Jamaica's no joke. You can't come on and say on the track, you're a gangster and you're not. Right, right. Especially back in those days. You know what I mean? I like that girl. Nobody knows what you mean. Jamaica's getting in trouble.

She knows what's up. But that's what I'm saying. That's why I never stop saying God is the greatest. Nori, God saved me. No one could save me. I was in prison. GP in Jamaica, Tower Street, that's the number one prison. You see guys hang themselves.

You see guys, you know, steal, that steal thing? You see guys sharpen that steal and just push it to the niggas. You're dead. Damn steel and just push it to the niggas. You're dead. Damn, don't push it to the niggas. That doesn't even make the news. Right. That doesn't even make the news. That's how Jamaican prisons are.

Because I know Americans see they have the toughest prisons. Nigga, you don't. We have the toughest prisons. People die every day. But God said, bro, because I take care of a lot of people, because I learned from Bounty Killer. So I pay forward.

But I prayed. I was like, at one point, I didn't even pray. TJ. Remember this guy? I'm in the light, God. Ask TJ. You couldn't tell me nothing about God. I was God.

That's how big I was in Germany. I was God. God was like, nigga, you're not. Go sit down in this fucking dungeon. Then he gave me that epiphany. Bro, chill. I gave you the blessing. Even them days I was helping a lot of people,

like Popcorn, Kamili, Gaza Slim, et cetera, my parents. Russian, not nice. Jordan, fucking Birch. Kid's mother. Everybody. And God was like, bro, you need to slow down. That's why I told you, no regrets. Because if I didn't go to prison prison I know I would have been dead

you know what I mean you got a second chance I won't fuck up bro I'm not fucking up I can't how the fuck do I fuck up 13 years in prison come out get my US visa get Come out, get my US visa, get my European visa,

get my British visa, making these millions. US, motherfucker. How can I fuck up? I would be an idiot, bro. And even then, and why I think I got a second chance, because even when I was crazy, I still had that love and that respect for people. Because if you good, we good. If you're a gangster, we not good.

Because maybe you want to fight me and I'm not going to give you that chance. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. So that's my mindset since day one. So I have no problem giving you your props. Because you can stop me you know and i don't want to stop you get it you can't stop me and i don't want to stop you because we

can both be rich we can both have a lot of money for everybody yeah yeah exactly we can both drive the rolls royce and we can both have a million women without even touching one of yours. So that's my mindset since day one, bro. Like every man has, like Bob Marley said, every man have a right to decide their own destiny. You have the right to decide your destiny, bro. I can't fuck with yours. Yeah. And you can't fuck with mine.

If it comes a time when that's going to happen, you go your ways and I go mine. And we good. You reach over South Miami, I'm reaching North Miami. That's it. That's how it goes, man.

So I don't harbor any bad feelings for no human. None. I've been through it, man. We've been through the wars, the gangster shit, everything. I'm 49 years old. What the fuck are you going to... What can you prove to me? You can't prove nothing to me.

I'm from Jamaica, bro. You don't prove anything either. me. I'm from Jamaica, bro. You don't prove anything either. Exactly. I'm from Jamaica. In my mind, I'm from Jamaica too. Huh? In my mind, I'm from Jamaica too. I'm from the... Clap for that bum bum. That's fucking

yeah. Man, I'm telling you, man. Big up Queens. That's right. Big up Queens. Getting back to the music a little bit yes what songs of yours do you think changed the trajectory of your career the first song was a question new millennium 2002 which changed dancehall because the song was saying these are the new millennium and different things are going meaning this is the new millennium. A different thing is going on. Meaning, this is the new millennium. Different things going on.

That's what it says. So that's one. Tech Buddy. Picture me and you, which is my first song on Billboard in New York. Okay. Then Tech Buddy Gal, second song. Wait, wait, wait.

Then me and the Akon and the Shabarangs and the Sizzler. Boodabai, boodabai, boodabai, boodabai. If you're this bad man. Bad man, exactly. You know what's up. Then Ramping Shop. Then Clark.

Ah, Fortmoreman. And then Fever, 2016, while I was in prison. That song was on rotation in 1997. Clark ah Portmore man and then Fever 2016 while I was in while you was in prison that song was on rotation in 97

on fucking Paul 105 how did that feel while you were in jail bro I'm on the fucking app watching everything I'm

popping champagne in prison I had a fucking bust down Rolex I had a fucking date cause Jamaica crazy bro

I had my Rolex date Cause Jamaica crazy bro I had my Rolex in prison Big shit Anything more Lobster, shrimp, champagne, anything Yeah yeah yeah But it's still prison Still prison right

No doubt I can't leave when I want Still prison But those songs when I saw gold in prison, I had my fucking plaque in my cell. Like, Rosh is crawling on it and shit. Rosh is crawling on my fucking gold plaque, bro. That's crazy.

I'm telling you. That's a scene. Yeah, Rosh is crawling on my plaque. And I was like, you're blood clad. Hurry up. Listen, you need to put your movies together. Netflix, that's what I'm saying. When is the Netflix?

General. That's what I'm saying. Grammy fucked up this year. No disrespect to them, but the story, come on. I'm coming from prison. 13 years. Get my visa. I'm engaged.

I'm behaving myself. I'm coming from prison. 13 years. Get my visa. I'm engaged. I'm behaving myself. I sold gold. The album that I did was nominated, was done in prison. Rami should have took a dance floor. It's an amazing story, Norby. Yes, it's beautiful. I love it. And with that being said, I want to piss this off.

Where is the bathroom? There's here. We got one there. Why couldn't we? And we got one over there. Right there, right there. magic? There's here. We got one there. Where could we? And we got one over there. Right there, right there. Yeah, I like that. Something in that trajectory.

Yeah. Yeah. Nah, DJ, we don't want to rock. What you say, rock? It ain't rock. It's nowhere to go. It's nowhere to go. Oh, man.

That's you. Yeah, it's so black. You know where I go on. Oh, man. That's Chigo. You need a light. Give Bob's a light. Sean Paul, give me the light. Give me the light. Sean Paul from Jamaica, for sure. Right in that Puerto Rico. Bustin' on the Bacalao. Dama, where we at Sean Paul, man?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, where we at? Yeah. Ah, here, a Portmore man say. Yeah. Sean Paul is from uptown. That means- But the privilege part. Privilege, because in Jamaica, we don't have racism.

Classism. Classism. But that's for another interview. I respect that. Because I'm passionate about that, because I'm from the get-go. Oh. It's here. And I live uptown, and my kids are born and raised uptown.

Went to the best schools, everything. You know how that is. Yeah. I'm from the best schools. I'm from the best schools. I'm from the best schools. I'm from the best schools. I'm from the best schools. I'm from the best schools. I'm from the best schools. I'm are born and raised uptown went to the best schools

everything you know how that yes that's they better yeah so god damn it that's a serious topic in jamaica too classism colorism right skin bleaching all that i was just gonna say that because um i remember when you was rehearsing for your show because I follow you so you was talking about we're going to do the Bleachers Cartel Black Cartel and the Bleachers Cartel where you use

the fucking melanin and like you're trying to kill God do you regret that at all? I'm told I regret nothing. Okay. Because if you win, you either win or learn. When you lose is when you die.

And we still don't know where you go when you die, even though I'm religious. And what those lessons are from your negative. From life. From your negatives. You know what I mean? So I never believe in losses. So I couldn't have regrets.

And I've lost people that I love. But I can't regret. The reason why I ask that, because Kodak Black, he had a song in Super Gremlin. He said, you know, I know the perk was fake, but I still ate it because I was a gremlin. The perk is in... Yeah, I know. You know what I'm saying? See how deep that was?

And he regretted that to a degree, the influence of that. No, but I understand that. But think about this. I already drank like four bottles of fucking. A few. How can I regret it? I can't change it. Right.

You can't go back. You can't go back. The only thing I can do from that is like, don't drink from beautiful women. I'm giving her props. Come on. Yeah, okay. So if I got fucked up,

no, I mean if I went outside and was like, I'm like, don't drink from beautiful women. That was a lesson learned. So it was the L. That was the L.'t drink from beautiful women. That was the lesson learned. So it was the L. That was the L. It's not the loss. It's the lesson. Because once you're alive,

it's not a loss. It's a lesson. And if it's a lesson, it's a blessing. Weber! Yay! If it's a lesson, it's a blessing.

It's a blessing. Shit. Bro, last year, them times, I was in fucking prison. What the fuck you talking about? I was in Fucking prison What the fuck you talking about I'm in America and I'm rich

That's right Sure Exactly Shout to that shit No bro Like I said Eva Massacre said it the other day when I was in prison. And I was so much in my positive energy that I understood it.

You know what Massacre said? I'm big on Massacre. You should interview him too. He's a big artist in Jamaica. Yes. He said, nobody can spoil my day. Why would I give you that energy? said nobody can spoil my day why would i give you that energy i just came out of prison bro 13 years i watched my children become from boys to men

and not the group from philly big them up yeah yeah salud Boston They from Boston Yeah yeah Oh I thought it was Philly What the fuck I'm losing it Boston Where's my shot No no no

They're from Philly They are Yeah I thought they were I think No no Salud Salud Salud

Salud to being wrong Oh shit That's why your coffee's empty Yeah so much shit empty I know Oh we taking shots Yeah we taking shots Oh he's why my shit empty I know Oh, we taking shots Yeah, we taking shots Oh, he just said, shot in there

I know He said, shot a car You doing that rosé Yeah, but you can't, you can't, you can't You know your history Maybe have a bad day You know your history That's why I'm so big in music

I'm a student I'm a student of the music You're a student first, before the teacher Before this guy right here How can you not be a student? the music. You're a student first before the teacher. Before this guy right here. You cannot be a student. My little brother right here always say, yo, I'm a student of hip-hop. That's what... Yo, cheers to that. Listen.

Yeah, man. Enough love and respect to you. Yeah, man. You gotta be a student. Big up. Big up. You gotta sip when you toast. Big up. Big up. It's you toast. Big up, big up. It's American. Let's do it again.

People canary. One of the t-shirts because he was a student. Big up. I want to ask another question. You brought up Massacre. Massacre, I bought their foot. As far as dance hall right now,

who do you think is the top contenders and also like the defendant champions of dancehall right now? Well, Massacre is one. Popcorn. And I'm not just saying that because he's my protege. But I'm also saying that because he's my protege. So learn from the best. You went to Harvard, nigga, you fucking qualified. So Garza Nation is the Harvard of dancehall.

So Popcorn is from that school. Then I like the younger kids after Popcorn, like the Jamal. And I'm going to get into that in a minute. So you have the Jamal, the Pablo Whitey, the Chronicla, Skilly Bang, the Javilani, you know what I mean? The 450. And, you know, a lot of people are going to come at me, especially Gaza fans. But he represents for the culture the alkaline, right? The alkaline.

Yeah, the squash. We can't leave our squash. We can't leave our squash. Not time. You know what I mean? So for me, the kids, I have to respect them. Because when I was coming up, I got a lot of flack. Like, oh, him don't sound like Dan Son.

Like they're trying to say I'm not Dan Son. I'm something else. So we always have to represent for the general. Because I stand on the shoulders of giants, right? I stand on Bounty Killer's shoulder. What? Bujubanta. Being a man, regardless of what you want to say about me.

Right, right. I'm a student of fucking dancehall Dancehall is forever Right? I'm a rep for the culture I'm a rep for the vulture I'm a rep for the culture So big up Beanie Big up Bunty Killer

Who made me rich Big up Buja Banta Who my biggest inspiration Ninja man My first inspiration Supercat Bunty Killer, who made me rich. Big up Buja Bantan, who's my biggest inspiration. Ninja Man, my first inspiration. Supercat, the Jersey Whale. Big Youth. Michigan and Smiley.

Danny English, he passed away the other day. Big up Danny. He's the first person who told my mom that I'm gonna be rich. Then she gave me the key Because they used to lock me out at night So when I went to the stage show at night

I couldn't go in Because my mom was like You're a blood clot And my dad was like You're a blood clot too Which means also And then my mom When Danny English said to my mom

Because he got TJ Oh Danny English said to my mom, because he got, um, TJ. Yo, TJ. Oh, Danny English. They have a meme with me and him on the internet where everything I want to confirm, I say, ask TJ. Oh, Danny English. Oh, meeting at the party. He was the first person to tell my mother that your son is going to be famous

and that that made that brought tears to my mother's eyes so and he died the other day so i'll repeat that please give him a round of applause messengers um as well because they roll together. I'm big up Eggnog. So, bro, that's all for me. It's everything, man. I believe in it. It made a lot of us famous. The more enriched, my father caught him. Born to be in a bourgeois, Terry Jamsey.

Even all the guys you ask me questions about, why do you think I have to take the start? Spraga, because I'm not going to pick, because all of them older than me influenced me. And the ones that I gave fame, they inspired me. So I could never, like TJ, TJ! TJ! TJ!

Yeah. Scatter! Oh, that scatter. And I'm going to be, I don't know if you guys understand. Yeah, say it. In Jamaica, we did the Freedom Street concert the 31st of December. So that went into the 1st of January, which is the first day of the year. Him get the first suck your mother for the year.

And in Jamaica, no, but hold on. In Jamaica, a suck your mother Is like saying your mother is a whore Go suck your mother And look how deep this is Scatter is my big bro Because Scatter was famous When I was fucking hungry

You know how that was So he's my big bro Popcorn is my son when I was fucking hungry. You know how that was. So he's my big bro. Popcorn is my son. Popcorn gave him the first suck your mother for the year. So you know I'm conflicted, right? But I spoke to Scatta. He was very mature about it.

Popcorn was very remorseful about it. Very important. Yeah, and everything. But that's when he became a meme. What was in your mind? Because people haven't, this is the first time you're talking about it after that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What was in your mind when he was holding the mic? But you saw my face. I was shocked because I never expected Popcorn to say that. It's like, you invite me to a party.

Why would, and say you invite me to a party, like, you invite me to a party. Why would I say you invite me to a party? But before you invited me to the party, me and Busta Rhyme had beef, right? This is, we just creating a scenario. Why would I come to your party and say, Busta Rhyme, suck your mother. This is the biggest diss in Jamaica.

That means I don't respect you. But here's the flip side. You watch that movie with Al Pacino and Robert De Niro? Here's the flip side to that coin. Popcorn fell violent because he was coming to represent for the man that made him rich. Like real rich, because you know, Papi's in like five-star tell, my father level,

like real rich. When we say millions, we mean US. And then he had to be at the gate for two hours. But then I had to explain to him after the show, like Papii you have to understand this is Jamaica the excitement and everyone wants to prove so if you're a security guard and FM and and and Capone is coming through maybe you have a fucking I No, not really. I'm fucking... No, I don't mind. No? I don't mind.

Go, go, go, go. Okay. But watch this. Watch this. That was... I did that on purpose. And if I didn't do it on purpose... Oh, yeah.

I'm in shock. Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. Oh, no. Hold on Hold on This is You're serious now So I'm I'm speaking to Papi And he's like

General Cause you know They all call me general The same way I call The guys Before me General That's right

Respect is everything. You know Jamaica culture. Of course. So it was like, General, me feel vexed and me feel violated, Mr. Popcorn.

You can't come to my show with 200 people. Like, literally. And then be angry when one of the promoters goes, Kata, Joe Bogdanovich,

and Carla, big up Carla, they organized it. I didn't do shit. All they did was call me. Carl tell you, I have an interview with Billboard. It's 4.30. Okay, I'll be there. I'm there by 4.30.

Just like when I came to your show. Yes, yes. I didn't disrespect. I was on time, right? You were on time. Hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that's how we do things. Six minutes late.

Thank you for your patience you know what I mean thank you for your patience sir because you understand entertainment yes so yeah so that's why you see me and Scatter, me and him all over the place together, because he's one of my road managers as well. TJ is the manager, Scatter and Mooney. TJ! Yeah, man, TJ. TJ! Yeah, man.

So it's TJ, Scatter, and Mooney. TJ the manager, two road managers. Because I'm dope, my life is dope, and I do dope shit. Got it! Come here! Come here, man! Wait, wait, wait. I love what you say. What is that under my eye?

No, under my nose. Under my nose. I'm out. Because it's Jamaica. With your mouth, you say you love using your mouth, meaning you love to fucking talk, or you love to, like, show out. So, but love you, so I'm out. Meaning you love to fucking talk or you love to, like,

show out. But in America, the slang is like, I'm out. So I merge them together. So what's this under my nose? I'm out. I'm out. It was in Jamaica number one

on YouTube for like three weeks. It's a slang that I turned into a song. So it's crazy slang that i turn into a song so it's crazy yeah so he knows like i said port morris at the long island of new york it's not brooklyn but we tough as fuck. Right? Like wine dance. Yeah, we tough as... Come check with me. We got Gotti over here.

Yeah, they gonna stab you. Yeah, exactly. We got Gotti. Yeah, so that's... I'm gonna tell you a shot from Portmore. Yeah, man. Let's go, let's go.

Where's my shot? Shot, shot. Oh, that's a shot. It's always lined up, Star. That light-skinned girl. In Jamaica, we call her a bronin. Bronin! Where is she?

Yeah, yeah. Hold on. She's there. White scarf, yeah. I love how... On tequila. Oh, bro. Look.

Be in the mood. No, no, no. He's got one shot. I'm doing that. I'm doing that. Hold on. I'm doing that. I'm doing that.

Yeah. Nice. Yeah, nice. You got to do Jay. Jay-Z. Bum-buckler. I doing that. Hold on. I'm doing that. I'm doing that. Nas. Yeah, Nas. You got to do Jay. Jay-Z. Bombo Club. Biggie Smalls. Yes.

Yes. So this is the Nas, Jay-Z, Biggie Smalls. And a little bit of Prodigy. Bounty Beanie Bujo. A little bit of Prodigy. Prodigy? Yes. Hold on.

Give me a moment to think. Mobb Deep. Spragger Benz. Spragger Benz is still alive? Of course. He's a legend. What are you talking about? Mobb Bookland.

Let him win. Go. You know my favorite New York rapper, female, is Cardi. Cardi B. Cardi B. She has to come to your wedding. She has to come to your wedding. You know who's, I invited her.

You know who's my second favorite rapper? And this is going to be crazy. If you're not, if you don't understand the generation I grew up in. Let's go. You know who's my favorite female rapper? I know who you're going to say. Lil' Kim. I know.

Oh, yeah, of course. I can see that. Yeah, Lil' Kim. Lil' Kim. Yeah. Flatbush Mosses. Yes. And remember, I'm not as big a fan as I am a Tupac fan, because remember I said Tupac

is my all-time rapper. But Lil' Kim and Biggie Bad, Jesus the Notorious, just pleased us with a little thesis. We just chilling. So in your wedding, you would like Cardi B and Lil' Kim to come out? No, if Lil' Kim comes,

that's ice, bro, that's ice. Okay, so look, can you go out and recept it? I know, you can do it. What, your wedding? You can get Lil' Kim to come. No, you can make it happen. Oh, I can that's ice. Okay, so look, can you go out and recept it? I know, you can do it. What, you're writing? You can get little kids to come. No, you can make it happen. Oh, I can make it happen. And Cardi B.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're legendary in this hip-hop game. Look, you're here. Norris. Come on, listen to this right now. No, I'm going to tell you this. I never want to say it because the girls in Jamaica that are 14, 15, and 16, they love me. But you're going to make me say it.

Okay. Bro, I'm 49 years old. Yeah. You're a fucking legend. Okay. In my eyes. Yes. So you can, I know you can.

Let's bring him to my brother. All right. You're a fucking legend. I'm a fucking legend. Well, hold on. Oxygen. He said you. Okay. Oxygen. Okay, all right. So, hold on.

Hold on. You know, I think you know you've turned me into an alcoholic. You got A, A, A number? Triple A. See them? Don't come to me. I'm joking. This is the engagement ring. I'm joking this is the engagement ring

I'm joking this is a sitcom I'm George Jefferson you don't know fucking we moving on yeah the fucking wheezy

not the other way the other wheezy yeah The fucking Weezy and George. Not Lil Wayne, the other Weezy. Yeah. And also Lil Wayne. Yeah. Let me tell you why I know you are an official gangster. You know why? You know how to laugh.

You know how to smile. You know how to have fun. Of course. When I see people who don't know how to smile and have fun, I don't understand. You're a fucking bitch. You ain't been through nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You ain't been through nothing. You ain't been through nothing.

Yeah, you ain't been through nothing. Listen. Yeah. Tell me one thing that you learned being locked up. Being locked up? Yes. How to set your hands when you're jerking off. I'm smoking. I'm joking.

I'm joking with this pork rump. I'm joking. I'm joking with this pork rump. Hold on. I'm joking, man. Or am I? Allegedly. She has some allegations against me. She has some allegations against me. Shit, yeah. Allegedly. Cheers to allegations again.

Cheers to allegations again. Shit, yeah. But ask the question again. No, ask it. I'm going to give you a serious answer. Okay. What have you learned since you've been home from jail? Been home from jail? Where you learned in prison?

No, you got some in prison? What I learned in prison? Don't take time for granted. And don't take the people you love, don't take them for granted. Right. You can't. And I'll tell you something, FN.

Because Jamaica prison is strange. It's like the gangster scene in Jamaica. Five people will die here in Kingston, but when you watch the news, you only hear about the one person

that died in Montego Bay or in Cocherea. So you got to take life seriously. The people you love, you got to take life seriously. The people you love, you got to spend it with them. You know what my biggest regret is? And my first son,

I had him, I drove to the studio with him. You know when you get that son, your first child is a son. So I'm with him in the studio. I'm changing his diapers. I'm doing all of that but what i regret the most is not spending more time with them who's the oldest little vibes no

like yeah like a five all right but this is the good thing about it liquor vibes gave me two grandchildren so now i have the opportunity to yes has given me another chance. The second chance, man. God is the greatest. Bro, I believe in God. Bro, when I was, even if you watch a lot of my old interviews. Yes, that's the Wilford. I know, because you were American. He's like Lord Hamilton.

Yeah, so he knows what's up I used to say bro whatever now I believe in like my son I didn't get to raise him he gave me two grandchildren so now I can

raise a granddaughter and a grandson. So I'm like, yeah, yeah. I'm like to my grandson, make sure you get a lot of pussy. I'm like to my granddaughter, hey, if you ever. Jamaican double standards. Yeah, double standards 2.0. But seriously though, it's like he gave me a new lease on life to be able to, because, and this is, I'm going to tell you, I'm going to be honest. Before I got arrested, I never believed in God as a concept. It's like being in prison

and like I said, I put the 238 on my, where is it? 238. Where is the tattoo? I don't even know. Look, where is it? 238. Left or right? Chi. Right there.

Right? Yeah, yeah. Don't study no man chi. What? Hold on. Right there. Right? Yeah, yeah. Don't study no man Chi. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Got him. Got him. He's nuts, right?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, hold on. But I say this. No, no disrespect. But I say this. No, no disrespect. No disrespect. It's all good. It's all good. Right?

But I'm going to say this. I knew that I was going to come out, but at the time, I needed that extra energy because a lot of people were depending on me. Not just the guys that I was arrested with. But my mother, my father, my children. My cousins, my aunts, my uncles. Remember, this is Jamaica. This is not fucking Wall Street shit. This is Jamaica. So I had to put my faith in something other than us.

And that's when I got more spiritual, more religious, and started focusing. And that's when I tattooed the thing on my face, love God. I don't know if you can see it. Man, I watch man still. I see it, yeah. The man get back up quick. I, darling, yo, what you mean? What you mean?

R-O-S-S, Ross. The blood clots. Ross, men ballad. Man the watchman. But Nari, that's when I became more spiritual because i used to go to church like most jamaicans because jamaicans have the most churches per square capita really yes yeah you know what you know what beats it the most bars and i'm not even joking like literally bars beats no not beats but bars like where you go to have drink rum whatever

there's more churches yes but but just by a slight because think about this we have the most churches per capita in the world right the only thing that beats that wow it's bars That's why you see the, what's the word, the plicitous nature of Jamaica. The discrepancy in it. Yeah, discrepancy. So on one side of Jamaica, you're partying, you're in a tourist country, and you're enjoying yourself and nobody fucking you. And on the other side, 53 people die in two days. Murder. Damn. So crazy it is? 53 people die in two days. Murder.

So crazy it is? 53 people die between Monday and between Friday and Sunday. But when you are in Montego Bay, not the real Montego Bay, you're in the resort. The resort, right. The safe zone.

You're good. But when you go back to America and you go on Google, The real Montego Bay, you're in the resort. The resort, right. The safe zone. You're good. Right. But when you go back to America and you go on Google, you see that 53 people died between Friday and Sunday. I've seen this before. By murder. It's crazy, man. So tell me something. Since you've been out, what have you seen change the climate of Jamaica?

Nothing. Just the love for me. My thing is this. Why are you shooting people? Because you have no other option. You were in school and you could paint very well. You could draw Jay-Z

and he looked like Jay-Z. But because no one cared about that and you lived in fucking Flatbush. No opportunities. No opportunities. So you just started to shoot fucking people. You're a gunman or you're a bad man. And it feels good.

You know why it feels good? Because you're a man and men need purpose. Get respect. Men need respect and we need purpose. So you found your purpose because you do it very well. Run up on niggas and shoot them. Is it

right? No. But all you had left was purpose. You found it with your gun. The same way we found it after the gun with the microphone music with the microphone right Jordan funny with the basketball boy no punk

you want a picture with Jordan nigga fuck nigga pay me that's why I have no problem with Jordan because I understand his mindset is it wrong or right that's what people to decide. But I understand the mindset of the man. Because I grew up in the ghetto. I understand how it works. And if you don't understand that, man, you naive as fuck. You need to live in Colorado.

You know what I mean? Go skiing in the fucking winter or some shit. Aspen. Aspen and some shit. You know what I mean? I love Colorado weed. Colorado's the best weed gang. No.

Yeah, and Oregon. I love Oregon weed because we got it in Jamaica. But listen, when you smoke that Smoke Champs weed. No, I haven't. I'm taking it home. You're going to love that shit. No, I'm taking it home. Listen, when you smoke it, you have to make a blog about it and say, yo.

I will. I'm Michael Jackson. Where is it? This is my little monkey. What's the monkey's name? Pammel? Bubbles. Bubbles.

Bubbles. This is my bubbles. I hope when I smoke it, I see doubles. Smoke chance. Hold on. Let me just say something. Let me end it. Let me end it with this. Yeah. V chance. Hold on. Let me just say something. Let me end it. Let me end it with this.

Yeah. Vibes, man. I'm being honest with you. Yeah. Me being a New Yorker. Which is Little Jamaica for us. Which is Little Jamaica. New York directly.

Yes. Related. Yes. I always wanted to meet you. I always wanted to, you know, wanted to You know Come into the same You know Room with you And just vibe with you

And then I realized One of my friends One of my best friends in the world Name is Busta Rhymes Damn it, Jenna And he He stepped to me And he told me

Who you actually are As a person Cause I was Not just a persona, but a person. Yes. So, and when I tell you

that man woke up four o'clock in the morning, you want to get a shot? Yes. Hold on. Hold on. Four o'clock in the morning. Because I said,

okay, all right, I'll do that too. I don't know what the fuck is... All right. Help me out. All right. Pour it in this Pour this shit in this All of it?

It's not a lot What's your name? Jamie Don't play me That should be in the reel Don't play me Jamie Jamie But box That should be in the rhythm. Jamie! Jamie! Jamie!

But Bob, let me just tell you, man. When we started this and we wanted to pay respect to the dance hall. Yeah. And our fans went so crazy. I said, your show wouldn't be official

yes like a referee with a whistle yeah honestly oh i like that right i like that right unless it's some point unless you have like a russian missile but unless you have the kingdom. Yes. And me personally, I think you and Beanie are both kings. Bro, Marissa can't love Beanie, man. He was before me. How the fuck you not respect a nigga who made this before you from the ghetto? Open the doors. You're a bitch. And we don't do bitch business.

I think your gold on show will be real big. Big up Bounty Killer. Big up Bushy Bantan. Big up Bounty Killer. Big up Bushibantan. Big up Ninja Man. After that, it's me. No, me and my father in the same league. You understand?

So, yeah. Big up Golly God. Listen, we need a tour with all of y'all. No, I'm touring with me, my father, Monty, Boju. That's right. That's the tour. That's the tour. That's it.

That's the only tour. Which one? No more shots? No, the shots are empty. All right, all right. So give me the fever. Give me the fever. Oh, you want the bottle? Yeah,. Yo, give me the fever. Give me the fever. No, no, no, the bottle. Oh, you want the bottle?

Yeah, yeah. Give me the fever. Let's get the fever. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, woof, woof, woof. Cheers, baby.

Yes. You know why I'm blessed? Yes. Because my managers don't drink. Yeah, yeah. What's the sound of my eye? I'm out. No, no, no. You know, hold on, hold on.

I saved, hold on. I saved the day. Because it's not under your eye, it's under your nose. I'm out. Get it? I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. I it? I'm out. I'm mouth. I'm out. I'm out.

I'll keep fucking it up. I'm smoked out of it. No, you can't fuck it up. You can't fuck it up. You're a drink champ. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Say one more thing. No, hold on, no.

Okay. G. Remember, do you know, do you recognize you're a hip-hop legend? Not a fucking podcast legend. FN is a podcast legend. Yeah. You're a hip-hop legend and a podcast legend. And when I say FN is a podcast legend,

Jamaicans love him and love you, but they also love you because you was a rapper. I'm going to get you on my rap album right now. Yo, ready? Bro, now, bro, you know, bro. T.J.! T.J.! T.J.!

Yes. Yatta. You know T.J. T.J. Yes. Yatta. Yatta. Hold on. You know, them money are legend. Money. Remember, bro, even though you said you're going to love you, because you was before everyone of us.

Yes, yes. Yatta, bro. Yatta. Yatta. Yatta. Yatta. Yatta. Yatta.

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