Drink Champs - Episode 45 w/ Scott Storch & Steve Lobel

Episode Date: November 18, 2016

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys drink it up with Scott Storch and Steve Lobel. The guys talk about Scott Storch's come up from the Roots, TVT records, Dr Dre and mor...e. Steve Lobel talks Jam Master J, Eazy E, Biggie, Pac and more. And like always the famous question, do you eat..... --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:43 First off, Steve LaBelle. Funk Queens. Pitchers will run DMC. Ran with them on tour. Jam Master Jay. DMC. Lost Boys. Royal Flush.
Starting point is 00:04:03 TVT. Steve LaBelle Been around I heard Russell Simmons say He's the only white guy Let him call me a nigga And it's gangster And you know what Russell
Starting point is 00:04:16 I agree with you Then we have my other guy My brother Scott Ledisable. He's been doing things before you. You could be doing things, and it's nothing. I seen him with a $17 million boat. He picked me up, and we went and got chilis.
Starting point is 00:04:41 It's the hardest shit in my life. This nigga had a What's that shit called? A captain That's what that's called? A captain Nigga had a yakton And we went to Chili's
Starting point is 00:04:56 It was the flyest shit I ever did in my life This is my guy I seen him construct Albums like The Chronic know, have a piece to do with The Firm. Numerous hits. Shit, going back to the roots. Going back to the roots. And he's a fantastic guy. Right now, I'm introducing Steve LaBelle, Scott Storch, my favorite of the favorite.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Let's make some noise. Get there. Now, Scott, you fucked a lot of bitches, Scott. I'm going to keep it on. Is that your girl there? No. Okay, all right, cool. So you're good.
Starting point is 00:05:40 All right, so I'm going to pop a bottle of champagne. Okay. Come on, you got to be quiet. Yeah. But you fucked a lot of bitches, Scott. I ain't going to front. I seen you at the height of the height. I seen you coming up, too.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yeah. That's a beautiful thing. A lot of people don't know that when I left the roots as a keyboard player, writer, to become a producer, my first week soliciting myself to be a producer, I got two clients. My very first two clients was you and Capone and Busta Rhymes. Let's make some noise for that, God damn it. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:06:13 No, for real. Noise is an opportunity, man. Nah, but Scott, let me just tell you something. I be looking at the internet, and I see it on the internet, when you be constructing these beats on these keyboards and you be sitting there and it's like, I just want to keep praising you. No, thank you, man. If that's a good word.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Is that a good word? Praising you. I want to keep praising you because you deserve being praised. Look at that from the left front. We don't spill champagne. Look at that. You know what I'm saying? Show them out.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Show them out. You know what I'm out. You want to show your peace in? Peace in. Peace in. You don't spill champagne. I'm from section two. Yo, come on, you Asian-ass motherfucker. Happy birthday, sonny. Yo, happy birthday, sonny.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Happy birthday, sonny. Happy birthday, Reverend Runge. Yo, so let's take it back to the beginning, Scott. Yeah. Were you originated from Philadelphia? No, I was born in New York, Long Island. But I moved to Florida as an infant. And then when I was 15, I followed my dad to Philly.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And I was supposed to be going to school, but I wasn't. I was cut in school and taking the train into the city and met up with Questlove and Black Thought and all these guys. Just describe that situation because you started out with the roots. Yeah, what year is that too? This was 1991. Yeah, man, I was just driving., you know, I was in jail, big up to the niggas in,
Starting point is 00:07:46 DFY. I was interning at this label, Rough House, at the same time. Rough House Columbia. Yeah, they had Cypress, Chris Cross,
Starting point is 00:07:54 the Fugees, yeah, and, it was like, getting a chance to see, the actual music industry, you know, just being nobody,
Starting point is 00:08:02 and, I got caught one day, jamming on the piano in the live room of their studio, and I thought I was going to get fired. And then I got called down the hall to play keyboards on the Killing Me Softly remix. Killing me softly.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Norman Hill, let's just throw that out there. Yeah. And, you know, just gradually, you know, I got a record deal with The Roots. From playing on the streets with them, we used to set up borrow power from stores on South Street and jam. We was doing these like little jam sessions with leaders of the new school and all kinds of crazy, crazy. Was The Roots like a street band at that time? It was actually before there was The Roots. It was Square Roots.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Oh, wow. Yeah, and we had to change the name because it was some other band That had the same name The whole band thing was new But y'all was playing on the streets for real? Yeah we was playing on the streets We actually got discovered At a block party on Cecil B. Moore Avenue Near Temple University
Starting point is 00:09:01 That is Philadelphia Yeah Philadelphia That's where the niggas get killed at right there. Yeah, I was there. They kill you right there. Shout out to our A-Billy listeners. It's all good. It teaches you to be strong,
Starting point is 00:09:12 and I think some of that strength and perseverance I learned in Philly helped me, you know, have success. So now you started out from the roots. Somewhere it doesn't go right. No, it was right. Everything was right. As a matter of fact, when I left the roots. But you't go right no it was right everything was right as a matter of fact but you wound it up in LA when I left the roots I actually just
Starting point is 00:09:33 you know I wanted to be more than a keyboard player I wanted to be a producer so I was you know grinding and this and that and I went to New York I met you fantastic and it was actually the day Capone came home. That's a fact.
Starting point is 00:09:51 That very day. It's nothing. That's a fact. And I remember that was a good time. Flashing forward, I went to L.A. and I ran into one of my homies from Philly, this girl Eve. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And she was like, yo, I just got signed to Dr. Dre. That's how you got it? That's how I got it. I'm forever grateful and in debt to Eve. Eve, big you up, Eve, because you cut me a Dr. Dre tape. You changed my life. She didn't have to do that, but she stuck her neck out. Yo, for real, the next day I was in the lab. I didn't have no do that, but she stuck her neck out. Yo, for real. The next day,
Starting point is 00:10:25 I was in the lab. I didn't have no... We used DAT tapes at that time. We didn't have... But describe that situation, though. So now,
Starting point is 00:10:32 Eve tells you to come to L.A.? No, I was in L.A. doing a jam session. You was already in L.A.? Yeah, I was doing a jam session at the Martini Lounge. Okay, you got a jam session
Starting point is 00:10:41 because we got dumb listeners. So Eve was there. What's a jam session? Alright, so The Roots I was still hanging with them They were still the homies And they would do like these Kind of like the, you know
Starting point is 00:10:52 It's like freestyle infirmary Poetry, jam, meets Like music A lot of Erykah Badu type shit going on Open mic Huh? Type shit? Open mic type shit?
Starting point is 00:11:02 Yeah, open mic It was like a women in music series called the Black Lily. And it was dope. And it was a roots-based event. But it was happening. It came over here, you said? Yeah. We was doing them in New York at the Wetlands every Sunday.
Starting point is 00:11:17 And we just decided to do one out here. So luckily, I ran into Eve. And the next day, I didn't have nothing to play drag. I just sat at the piano and boom they was like can you stay out here I was like hell yeah wait that same way you said it how was that meeting you said it so national you said Dre just yeah I met Dre and I was like now I'm in the studio with Dre and I got nothing to play him So I just get on the piano And I start jamming for him
Starting point is 00:11:46 And he's, you know About an hour later I had like Ten racks A hotel room fee And I was My rent was paid I was good to go
Starting point is 00:11:55 And now your glasses Is ten racks So them glasses Them glasses look mad dismissive What kind of glasses are those? Those are Porsches Those are Porsches Let's make some noise
Starting point is 00:12:02 For the Porsche glasses God damn it God damn it God damn it On front of the glasses You see the glasses? The glasses are very expensive I'm sure Very
Starting point is 00:12:11 So alright So you're in the studio With Eve Dre tells you to play The piano or the beat? Just to play the piano Because I had no beats with me I didn't know I was going to be
Starting point is 00:12:20 Seeing Dr. Dre So yeah And then the very next day He had me work on this artist named Slim Shady. And we did the song Just the Two of Us. How quickly was this? The very next day you met Dr. Dre? Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:12:37 And then the day after that, we did Big Eagles. That's on the Chronic 2000. Wow. And so on and so on. Classic, classic shit. Chronic 2000 and so on and so on. And then life progressed to, you know, I just got to a place where I didn't want to feel like I have to ask, you know, Dre created his empire. I wanted to create mine. So I went to a different city. I went to Miami.
Starting point is 00:13:00 And, you know, I like got into my own clients. And it wasn't really the same type of stuff I was working with Dre. And then I got introduced to clubs and cocaine and all kinds of great things. That's where the land goes wrong. Let's say the cocaine. I'm ready for cocaine. We're going to save it for later. You're ready for the cocaine? I'm ready for the cocaine.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I'm ready for the cocaine. But because Scott for the cocaine. I'm ready for the cocaine. But, because Scott is my brother. I'm going to just throw this out there. I don't know if people know. I know Scott just said it earlier, but Scott is really my brother. And I really seen every way, shape, form, fashion he ever came. And he's always been my brother. And I'm always going to remain his brother.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Thank you. And that's just who I am. Steve LaBelle. God damn it. You're from Queens too. Yes sir. Where you from in Queens? I'm from Jamaica, Queens. Damn. Look, he's from Jamaica. Queens.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Thanks. This is the first white person you met from Jamaica, Queens? But that nigga blackened it. I'm going to be honest. He blackened it both of us. You put us both together, he's nigga blackened it. Hold on. I'm going to be honest. He blackened it both ways. You put us both together, he's still blackened it both ways. So, describe your comings up
Starting point is 00:14:11 in Jamaica, Queens. My coming up was through the late, great Jam Master Jay, rest in peace. He put you on? Yeah, he put me on. Wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:14:18 So, how did this happen? I grew up with Jay and Run DMC. Russell was my mentor. Basically, you know, I was just carrying bags I was doing whatever But at the end of the day It was like around
Starting point is 00:14:34 83, 84, 85 Next thing you know I'm on the I'm on the Tougher Than Leather Tour in 88 EPMG, Public Enemy. I don't know what those tours are like. Jazzy Jeff, Fresh Prince, and I was around the Rush Management days and Def Jam days and Profile, Profile Records days. You know my homie Bill Adler over there.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Of course, of course. Legend, legend. That's my family. You know, I didn't know what I could do, so I was just... No, no, no, no, wait. Adai, Adai. Look, Adai. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Adai. I was just around and just, no, no, wait Ara, ara Look, ara Yeah, there you go Ara I was just around And just doing whatever I needed to do I'm an opportunist You know, I'm from Queens So, you know But then I was like You know, I traveled And I was doing all this stuff
Starting point is 00:15:13 And around these labels But I said, you know So I opened up a couple of bars In St. John's University And I brought all the rappers there Chris Mullin, Mark Jackson Onyx, Jay And who was there
Starting point is 00:15:23 For people that don't know St. John's, Union Turnpike No, oh, Union Turnpike Yeah, St. And who was that for people that don't know? St. John's, Union Turnpike. Oh, Union Turnpike. Yeah, St. John's, you know, Redman, St. John's. And then I got into a car accident, so I sold everything, and then I got a job. Oh, Jay and Onyx wanted to start a, they wanted to find a white rapper, like a Mocky Mock. So we took it to Relativity. Wait, Mocky Mock, you're talking about Mock Warburg.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Yeah, but Fred Rollins. You're talking about Mock Warburg when you say Marky Mark. What's Marky Mark? I'm single. No, but good vibrations. Good vibrations. Fredro and Sticky wanted to find someone like that, so they used my bar to find fraternity brothers.
Starting point is 00:16:00 So then we took the record to Sony Relativity, and the next thing you know, I got a job at Relativity. And I was like, I never had a job for somebody else. And it was like 92, 93. Beatnuts, M.O.P., Fat Joe, 8Bone, MJG, 3 6 Mafia, Frankie Cutlass was there, and Eazy-E, rest in peace, had Ruthless Records there. So I worked with all of them and I was going to roll with Fat Joe and Big Pump was just hype man. Rest in Peace had ruthless records there. So I worked with all of them. And I used to go on the road with Fat Joe. And Big Pump was his hype man. Rest in Peace. But hold on.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I got to stop you real fast. You said you was there when Ice Cube and N.W.A. had a fight. Nah. Eazy-E and Ice Cube had a beef. If you watch straight out of Compton. That's what I was trying to say in my mind. At the tunnel. Legendary tunnel.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Rest in Peace. Big Cap. We went. Eazy came in town with Bone Thugs. But that's not in the movie. Yeah, it's in the movie. But after the movie, this is on the road. If you watch Straight Outta Compton, Eazy and Ice Cube running to each other. But I thought that was on the road.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Nah, that was in New York City. That was in New York. But it was daylight outside. They didn't show it though. They didn't show them beefing in the film at that point. Nah, but that's when they ran into each other and had a problem. But I was with Eazy, so whatever was going to happen was going to happen. And then Eazy said he wanted to go back to the hotel, and he had his flat alone.
Starting point is 00:17:11 He walked back to the hotel, and I said, getting in the limo, it was freezing. He said, now I'm going to walk. And then the next thing, I had never seen him again. He got caught AIDS, they said, and he died. And then from there, he introduced me to Bone Thugs. I've been with Bone Thugs and Hogs for like, I don't know, I don't smoke, 23 years. Wow, that's incredible. You know, so we did the Bone and Biggie.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Someone told me today, 20 years ago, today we did Notorious Thugs. Yes, wow. So, you know, I throw throwbacks to that up. And then we did Riding Dirty with Chameleon and Thug Love with Tupac. A whole bunch of collabs. I've been with them for 23 years. So you worked with Tupac and Biggie. I managed the Outlaws.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Tupac's group, the Outlaws. And then 8-Bone, MJG, and 3-6 Mindful, like I said. Just a whole long list. Like I said, me and Fat Joe brothers introduced him to his wife. And he's going to roll with Joe in 1993 and 1994. Now, we're going there. You're going to Tupac. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:55 All right. All right. Scott. Did you work with Big? I don't know. I just did a remake. What remake? Did you work with Pop?
Starting point is 00:18:03 No. What was the remake, man? What was the remake you did? What was the remake? Oh, work with Pop? No, what was the remix, man? What was the remix you did? What was the remix? Um Shit I'm sorry Scott got too much money
Starting point is 00:18:12 Too much Yeah, too much 860 I know I did Tupac I did the Ponega Blues joint Mmm Yeah
Starting point is 00:18:19 So Scott You've worked with Lil Wayne I'm gonna be honest with you, Scott. One time I came to the Hit Factory to see you and it was a cheese line outside. Like it was just mad art, but it was artists
Starting point is 00:18:36 though. It wasn't like a cheese line. The cheese line in the hood, it's like the worst of the worst people that's sitting there waiting for the cheese line. But you had like DMX, Nor Glory, Fat Joe, Lil Wayne, Mac Mane, Timbaland. Like outside of that hip factory just waiting to see you. It's a lot of work. We used to keep five, six rooms going at one time.
Starting point is 00:18:59 At one time. Yeah. At one time. 24 hours, huh? Yeah, man. Now, is that when Molly came in? Molly? Because I heard MDMA.
Starting point is 00:19:08 That was very nice. Yeah, it came in actually from Amsterdam. From Amsterdam? Explain to our viewers. No, just before when people were just having ecstasy. When you're high in the food chain in Miami, people introduce you to everything. The real shit was coming out.
Starting point is 00:19:30 That really wasn't my thing. I used to keep a lot of that, but it was for the ladies. It was my thing. I liked it. Thank you. You definitely went in on it. Thank you for introducing us. Let's make some noise for Scott. Introduce us to MDMA.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I like it, Scott. And Ali likes it too, right? Is that correct? Don't give me that ahs because you're a white man. Ali, you was doing mom? Yeah, yeah. I like the effect it had on women. No, because you was doing like dabs, right?
Starting point is 00:19:54 It was like just like dip and dab, dip and dab. Yeah. You don't remember that? I do, but we just took it to a whole other level. That shit was so bad. It's fantastic. We just got to control it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:05 That's all we got. Listen, listen. We just got to control it. That's all we got to do. Listen, I'm going to throw this out there. I don't believe anybody has a drug problem. This is what I believe. I just believe you got to take care of it. Take care of your drug problem?
Starting point is 00:20:20 At a certain point. You got a drug problem? You know what? This is what I believe. And then get sober for two days and then go get back to your shit that's a drunk problem this is what i believe i'm just saying this is my belief this is like i might be retarded i'm sorry i probably is scott already know that steve already know that but i believe the MDMA you have is very fantastic So Steve You've been on the road with one DMC
Starting point is 00:20:58 You've been in a row bone thugs in harmony What's your wildest road story? I mean, I got a crazy story. We're in North Carolina, and we got into a little problem in this club. Who you with, though? Run DMC. What year is this?
Starting point is 00:21:17 I got hit in the head in the Kanye birthday party at the Louis Vuitton store. I don't know if you knew that. Yes, very recently. His 30th birthday. So it was 07. Wait, Kanye was out 30 years ago? No, he was 30 years old. Oh, there are.
Starting point is 00:21:33 People don't know this, but I was at Kanye's 30th birthday in 07. Oh, 30th birthday. I like that. Louis Vuitton store. So a shelf fell on my head. So I sued Louis Vuitton. Oh, wow. But my memory's in and out.
Starting point is 00:21:43 But we were in a club in North carolina and um there was a problem we couldn't leave the club because the van was parked we were in the van that time in the garage of the promoter so i stood on this table and um who take the con you no i just stood on the table with the concert in north carolina like it was a like a local club and i thought i was a kid from the karate kid because i'm like we're gonna get out of here so me and my man mustafa was running run the m MC at the time we stood on top of the table like and made that like we're some karate experts yeah to get the fuck out the club the last dragon they all just thought we were some fucking martial art experts and they just we got out the club got in the van got the fuck out that Jay said I was crazy, but who knows? God damn it. Let's make some noise.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Let's steal a bow. Now, Scott. I'm sorry. I got to go here. Yo, you had like Paracelton. Oh, my God. I heard it. Is Paracelton
Starting point is 00:22:41 the first person to get in? Before we start this conversation, I just want to say to my girl, hey, Flo, I love you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Flo, we love you. Start with that. Let's go. I love you. Nori loves you, too, Flo.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Okay, now I can say anything. All right. So now, was Paris Hilton the first person to introduce you to cocaine? I ain't talking about that. Let's just say L.A. We'll just say L.A. introduced me to that. You want to discriminate people, man? All right.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Listen, at the end of the day, ain't nobody hold that shit to my nose. When you talk about Lindsay Lohan, you got to have that best niggas in the world. That's hard. Legendary shit. That's legendary. I took it to the Olympics of drug use. I love you, baby.
Starting point is 00:23:19 One more time for my girl. I literally used to line up in my bedroom on the island like 10 girls and I introduced them to what we called the Miami Frostbite. We never heard of this. What we called the
Starting point is 00:23:34 Miami Frostbite. Yo, Scott, you're still looking rich as hell. Tell us about this Miami Frostbite. What did I say? Well, let's just say this. Okay. The only reason why I'm looking rich as hell is because there's no more Miami Frostbite. What did I say? Well, let's just say this. Okay. The only reason why I'm looking rich as hell is because there's no more Miami Frostbite shit going on.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Smart man. I said break down what that was. But, you know, my man told me that this show, you pretty much can just go to the depth
Starting point is 00:23:59 of humanity. Yeah, have fun about it. Yeah, have fun about it. And you know what? If you can't joke about the shit that you've been through, fuck it. You can't laugh at your own life. I know what the fuck I was doing was completely wrong.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Yes. And this was really wrong. Yeah. But I basically used to. I'm just going to say this. I learned the California frostbite or the Miami frostbite. I think you had every state frostbite. I learned it.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I'll just say this. one of the biggest singers i'm not going to say her name ever in the history of music sing one of her rehearsals was on the back of a 250 foot yacht with me and a bunch of people and i was doing cocaine i was out of the normal way obviously where you snorted and this artist said i want to it, but I don't do it the way you guys do. They want to smoke. No, they like to put up their culo. Oh, shit. I got to guess. I got to guess.
Starting point is 00:24:51 That's the king. I got to guess. Christina Aguilera? Was it Christina Aguilera? No. I feel like it's Christina Aguilera. I'm talking about. I feel like it's Christina Aguilera.
Starting point is 00:24:59 How does that work? Britney? No. Britney? No. You're not going to tell me. I'm talking about a really, really big star. Not Whitney Houston because Whitney.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Of that level. All right. Of that level. Okay. That's a lot of people. So I took that information. I learned that thing in St. Bars. And I would basically, I guess, recruit like 10 girls at a time and
Starting point is 00:25:25 line them up and the frostbite went down. You was living some Scarface shit. I certainly was. You picked me up one time. I was living on Northeast 18th Street and you was living on Palm
Starting point is 00:25:39 Starz. It was Star and Palm. You guys came pick me up and i came downstairs and you know i'm fat at the time and like jump over the gate i'm like it's not that easy big boy i'm like that so you can't just jump over the gate when you're a big you got it's like one step then you gotta be like hold up you gotta adjust your nuts and then get your other leg right and i jumped up and these had your nuts and then get your other leg right. And then I jumped up.
Starting point is 00:26:07 And these niggas had the captain. And then they went to Chili's. It was the most millionaire nigga I shit I ever seen in my life. These niggas, bitches butt naked. I just getting divorced from my first marriage. I'm like, I got to look at my life and say, I don't really know what I'm doing here. Yes. And Scott and Raul, this big old Raul. And they had the, I don't even know how many million dollar boat your shit had, but it was so beautiful. And that was the first time I ever
Starting point is 00:26:41 experienced that. And it might be the only time. I've been on private jets a lot. So did you see the Miami Frostbite? No, I actually don't know what the Miami Frostbite is. Can we do this? What is the Miami Frostbite? Just so the people know. He said it. I kind of already... Alright, say it again.
Starting point is 00:26:58 It still doesn't make sense what it is. Cocaine up your ass. No, no, I get it. How does it get in your ass? Actually, Raul used to say the Miami Frostbite was with blow, and that the California Frostbite was with molly. They crushed molly, I'm assuming. Not the fucking pill up the ass.
Starting point is 00:27:21 No, just crushed molly. I think that goes in the category. Steve, what kind of frostbite you had? None, man. Can I just say something before we pass the frostbite? Look, all that shit was crazy, but you know what? I have an addictive personality,
Starting point is 00:27:38 so all that drug shit, I had to put that shit aside. And now I'm addicted to the music again. You've always been addicted to the music. And I'm heavily addicted into marijuana. I love it. And now I'm addicted to the music again. You've always been addicted. And I'm heavily addicted into marijuana. I love it. And that never gets me in trouble.
Starting point is 00:27:49 It works every time. Let's make some noise for that. Come on, God damn it. But I can joke about all that shit and I live with it. You gotta joke about it. I should have a trophy for the biggest fucking douchebag.
Starting point is 00:28:02 If you don't joke about it, you know what? Some other scumbag's going to joke about it. I don't care if they do. No, no, no. We care because we may fuck him up. But we joke about it with you because this guy, we don't know this guy. And he talk about Scott,
Starting point is 00:28:16 we're going to have to have one of them. Like Steve Austin. For whatever reason, there are people walking the streets thinking that I live not like I usually live. I'm still living. No, Scott, we know you're rich. We know you're rich.
Starting point is 00:28:30 You've always been living good. And let me just tell you something, Scott, just in case you don't know, the hip-hop community supports you. We always supported you. We're always going to have your back, just in case you didn't know that. Thank you, my brother. You know what I'm saying? Because the way you just said that, I just wanted to say that. Yeah, and you man it up to what you went through.
Starting point is 00:28:47 And you know, it ain't nothing to man up to. No, for real, though. We all have fun. I need to fucking man up. And that's part of it. I wouldn't have been able to rebuild my riches and my success in my career and everything if I hadn't admitted that I actually fell. If you're just in denial.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Most people are just in denial, and they'll just sit in the corner and they're too scared to come out and rebuild themselves because they don't want to have to admit they did fault. But that's what we do at this show. At this show, we have fun. At this show, we have fun.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Now, Scott Storch, you eat ass. That's a fact, right? Yeah, no. That's a fact, right? Yeah, it's frostbite eating ass. Steve LaBelle, you eat ass. Man, I've seen the world, man, so just imagine everything... You eat mad Asian ass.
Starting point is 00:29:29 I just feel like your preference is Asian ass. I just feel like it. I didn't go for it. I just look at you and say... I've been involved with a lot of trizzers with Terra Squad. Oh, I can't talk about that part neither. You got me on that one I'm going to change the subject Are you going to change the subject I might go down with this story Somewhere with Steve LaBelle's
Starting point is 00:29:52 Story I might pop off He tells me all the time Let's go for it Now You worked with Tupac I worked with Tupac's group the Outlaws And you worked with Big I've seen pictures with with Tupac's group, the Outlaws. And you worked with Big. I've seen pictures of you with Tupac and Big.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Is this correct? Yeah. You know, I did the Bone and Biggie with Bone Thugs. And then, you know, Pac, we did Thug Love. And like I said, I managed the Outlaws. I worked with everybody you could imagine. And we discovered Nipsey Hussle, me and my partner Big U, Sean Kingston. Big up Big U.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I'm following you on the ground. Yeah, you in L.A., you better check in with Big U. That's my guy. You know, I as man, Sean Kingston. I've seen the world with Sean Kingston. A lot of people, you know, don't understand that pop music gets you around the world. You can't just say Sean Kingston and move on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Right now, Sean Kingston is a very controversial. Yeah, but me and Big U manage Sean Kingston now. Big up Big U. Now? I worked with Sean Kingston for seven years but he gets caught up in a lot of jams. But let's get to the point, Steve. That's the Florida homie too, man.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Steve, this incident that just happened, did y'all have anything to do with Sean? No. So now y'all have something. So is that the reason why Meek or whatever they say told Sean? You know, I come from Kilo Labs. Let's drink, champ. Shout out my man Pistol Pete. None of them.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Let's drink, champ. Let's drink, champ. We don't. I don't snitch. I don't talk. Whatever it was, it was. You know what I'm saying? Big of all sides.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway. We don't need that. And I'm blessed man i'm working with my man scott storch i know him for a long time and now i'm managing scott we going in you know fantastic guy scott storch now scott i remember fact yo well not only i remember he said it on our podcast about four or five times he said if i would have knew every time me and scott go in the studio we're gonna make a number
Starting point is 00:31:45 one I'm gonna never let Scott leave me at all ever didn't do you agree with him every time every time it's crazy it's miraculous and man big ups of Joe with all the way up right now that's cool and Dre and Dre Man for real Kool and Dre Ain't make that beat though No? No Exclusive No Kool and Dre
Starting point is 00:32:08 Ain't make that beat If a red Exclusive If a red Make that Exclusive Add exclusive Add exclusive
Starting point is 00:32:15 Add exclusive I don't know why People have been telling me Kool and Dre But I assume that too It was that Kool and Dre Studio One of their producers
Starting point is 00:32:22 Alright but that's No But for whatever reason God bless Because Fat Joe Deserves that. He's one of their producers. All right. But for whatever reason, God bless him. Because Fat Joe deserves that, man. He's a hell of a dude. This your boy N-O-R-E. What up? It's E-F-N.
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Starting point is 00:40:04 Download the app. Listen. It's free free boom we're back to drink champs radio with rapper n-o-r-e and dj efn so describe you leaving dr dre right and there's so many stories Of these people That work with Dr. Dre Dre don't pay him or whatever Oh come on man Let me finish Whatever excuse they use
Starting point is 00:40:37 And they leave Dr. Dre And then they never ever ever make it Listen everybody can play the blame game You're like one of the only ones. I know a lot of people that have a lot of money and a lot of success just from knowing him. Dr. Dre gave me
Starting point is 00:40:53 everything I ever deserved from everything I've ever done with him down to the percentage. I think for real, for real Dr. Dre provides opportunity for people. But, you know, it's like if people don't succeed, you can't expect that man to just keep people in his doors of the studio
Starting point is 00:41:14 if they ain't doing shit. Like, you know, and everything has its reason. Every business has its things where other business takes precedence over that person. So they may be salty if they had to wait in line, but they weren't that high on the totem pole. And, you know, my whole relationship with Dre is amazing right now. We actually got in the studio a little bit.
Starting point is 00:41:34 We're about to go in and do a bunch of stuff. And I heard you working on the Carter 5. Is this correct? I was blessed, man. The other day, I was down in Miami, and I got in with Dwayne. Yeah, I heard you was an amateur mall. We had to drop on you. Oh, really? Yeah, I'm like, man. The other day I was down in Miami, and I got in with Dwayne. Yeah, I heard you was in Aventura Mall. We had to drop on you. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:41:48 Yeah, I'm like, he's thinking Aventura Mall. He didn't call me. He's my friend. I worked every day. I was down there, so I had to take her somewhere. All right, all right. Big up your wife. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:57 So you're working on Carter V. I'm working on that. I'm working on a bunch of stuff, man, a bunch of new talent. I got a record coming out with this kid, P&B Rock from Philly. And that's my guy. Bigger P&B Rock. He's my nigga. He's got his own style.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Bigger Orlando as well. Orlando, yes. Bigger Orlando as well. That's my dude. And I'm working on a bunch of stuff. I'm working with Murder Beats on a bunch of stuff. Hopefully it makes its way to Drake and and the cats all the canadian crew but yeah we cooking um got a bunch of stuff chris brown
Starting point is 00:42:30 new chris brown yeah because you did run it run it right yeah you did chris brown's original record yeah i did i was there was it run it run it i was there. I was downstairs. Y'all was upstairs. And you played me. You was upstairs with Tina Davis. Am I correct? And Mark Pitts. And Mark Pitts. And I didn't see Mark Pitts that day.
Starting point is 00:42:53 I just seen you and Tina Davis. I came upstairs. And I was downstairs. I think I was trying to bust a nut or something. It's back in the days. You know what I'm saying? So let's just throw it out there. And two years later, this kid is Chris fucking Brown.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Oh, damn, that far back? No, I'm talking about back then. Yeah, when you're done. Scott is in there. And you know, Scott is my man. So I can come to Scott's studio. And Scott, he'll look at me and be like, you shouldn't really be here right now but he'll still let me live come on and he let me live
Starting point is 00:43:28 always he let me live and then I went back downstairs and two years later the kid he was working on was Chris Brown I remember seeing it I don't feel like it was sooner than two years no I'm not I'm not describing now I'm saying
Starting point is 00:43:43 it's drunk facts anyways I feel like we made the record at least within a year No, I'm not describing now. I'm saying back then. It's drunk facts anyways. It's drunk facts. I feel like we made the record at least within a year. Yeah, yeah, within a year. I think it was in a year. That's probably like six months. Six, seven months.
Starting point is 00:43:56 The day I met Chris Brown, I've told this story a hundred times. And I like telling this story. Please tell the story. Tell the motherfuckers over there, be quiet. Tell them this story. The day I met Chris Brown, he was a little kid, man. He came in, and I told him, I said, yo, you're an awesome person. Just stay humble and stay just like you are, man. And he did.
Starting point is 00:44:16 And I'm going to make you a number one song today. And this song, whatever we make, is going to go to number one. And a year later, it was number one. Wow. So a year later. it was number one. Wow. So a year later. I said two years. I'm incorrect. One year later, we took him to number one.
Starting point is 00:44:30 He never had a record out ever in his life. But he deserves that. I'm not going to take all the credit for that. No. He's a talented young man. Big up Chris Brown. He's still talented, and he still blesses me every time. He's one of the loyal ones.
Starting point is 00:44:40 There's very few. There's Fat Joe. There's you. There's Chris Brown and Rick Ross. On my darkest day, Chris Brown always makes sure he puts a Scott Storch record on his album. With Rick Ross
Starting point is 00:44:54 as well. Now how about Cali? Did you work with Cali, Steve Cali? Yeah. Man, I know Cali a long, long time. Him and DJ Nasty, you know? Me and Joe used to go to Orlando and always used to run into them. Because Cal is from Orlando, correct?
Starting point is 00:45:10 Yeah, just seen Cal up in New Orleans. From New Orleans, exactly. Just seen Cal's hook up. Bigger you up, Cal. Yeah, and, you know, we go way back. Like, someone just found some crazy throwback of me, him, and Tretch. And I sued from the outlaws, like, from 95. But, you know, Cal knew I sued from the outlaws like from 95. But you know,
Starting point is 00:45:25 Cal knew how to master the game and stay relevant and use his personality. And God bless him, man. And God bless his new baby son. Oh, he got a son. Let's make some noise for Cal. I got that right. I try to tell people in this game that
Starting point is 00:45:40 nothing happens overnight. You know what I mean? So it takes decades to be successful. And you need a lot of patience. You know what I mean? So it takes decades to be successful. When you need a lot of patience, you got to sacrifice a lot. Persistence. All of us at this table got resumes and stripes. And for the new generation out there, you got to put your work in. Shit does not happen overnight. But with Scott,
Starting point is 00:45:56 we got that game record out with Jeremiah All Eyes, number four on the rhythmic charts. And we got Shaggy record out. And we're doing some different shit that Scott never did. We just had Shaggy. Shaggy record out and we're doing some just different shit that Scott never did. We just had Shaggy. Shaggy grabbed my head for more than 12 seconds.
Starting point is 00:46:12 I'm being manager now. Scott's going around the world playing the keys with a DJ. Doing some innovative shit. We're doing a lot of brand collabs and TV shit, movie shit and just working with every new artist from, you know, B.B. Borelli on Def Jam to P&B Rocks
Starting point is 00:46:28 to O.T. Genesis. Everything. Gave Nipsey some shit, French Montage. Everybody. You know, Scott's talent never left. Just because someone goes through trials and tribulations their talent will always be there. I go through trials and tribulations every day. And these niggas doubt me every day.
Starting point is 00:46:43 You know what I tell the niggas? Fuck them every day. Every day. And these niggas doubt me every day. You know what I tell them, niggas? Fuck them every day. What was the situation with Steve Gottlieb and the publishing stuff? Oh, TBT. That's very true. I've always heard that story. That's in the beginning. In the beginning.
Starting point is 00:46:56 What's the facts on that story? Which story? On the fact that Steve Gottlieb had a percentage of your publishing. No, I just had a... Shit. He had a publishing deal with him? I had a publishing deal with him. I got my first million dollar check from him.
Starting point is 00:47:09 But I didn't get any of it. Big up Steve Gottlieb, man. He's been coming up a lot. This is a real story that teaches you about persistence. But back in the day, my first publishing deal, I got a million dollar deal with TVT Records. I got a hundred grand out of that. My first publishing deal got got a million dollar deal with TVT Records I got a hundred grand out of that
Starting point is 00:47:27 I got a hundred thousand out of that million I'm going to have to respect you and make the heart break make the heart break for real what was the split on that
Starting point is 00:47:35 who was taking no I got robbed by people like between like lawyers and this and that and then some people that tried to sue me
Starting point is 00:47:42 and shit that was like corrupt shit that you know it was a million up front and you that was like corrupt shit that, you know. It was a million up front and you got $100,000 from that? I got $100,000 out of it. Yeah. Heartbreaking. But you know what?
Starting point is 00:47:54 It's just inspiration to make more. I did. God damn it. That's the fucked up part of the game, you know? Plenty of it. Now, how was it getting high with Lindsey Lohan? Man, ill. Like, for real. He's going to do better than that. Nah, nah, because Lindsey Lohan? Man, for real. He's going to do better than that.
Starting point is 00:48:08 No, no, because Lindsay Lohan. I'm sorry, Lindsay. I be sitting around. I be like, damn. When I see her, I be like, damn, I want to get high with her. Can I tell you a secret? Yeah, go ahead. Tell me. No secrets.
Starting point is 00:48:16 In my day of doing my dirt and wilding out, I had girls. Listen, I had all the A-list girls, and I would take them out, and I would walk the red carpet with them. I know that, too. No, let's please pay attention. All right, I got you. I would walk the red carpet with them. But when I would leave, I would call the porn star girls. But you bust Kim Kardashian in the opening, though, right?
Starting point is 00:48:40 No, no, no. This guy. This guy. Just throw that out there. Listen, no. It's all coming out in the movie. You were? Let's keep it real. This guy. This guy. Just throw that out there. Listen. No. It's all coming out in the movie. Like, you were her first
Starting point is 00:48:49 hip-hop boyfriend. Let's just keep it real. Come on, Scott. Claim it. Claim it. Because somebody else is going to claim it and it's not going to...
Starting point is 00:48:54 You my nigga. I be telling Scott to stick his chest out, man. Fuck it. Scott, I think right now you're claiming. In front of everybody. I'm just telling you.
Starting point is 00:49:03 I see. I know the truth He was the first hip hop guy Listen People are different places in their lives now I ain't trying to upset them I got Yeezy 3's That's the way to make good
Starting point is 00:49:18 I got the white jacket Let's just say this They finally sent me the white jacket They sent me the white jacket There's a price to pay for everything They sent me the white jacket. There's a price to pay for everything. Yeah, definitely. But Lindsay Lohan, how was that?
Starting point is 00:49:32 Huh? Lindsay Lohan, how was that? You really want me to go there? Yeah, please. Come on. Just one time. Or Paris Hilton. Either one.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Let's just say Paris is dope. Paris is dope. Paris is is dope But how about Lindsay Now that I know you don't want to talk about Lindsay She was more like a homie Than anything else If I went there with her I really don't remember it so well But she definitely got hot
Starting point is 00:49:59 Oh yeah Let's make some noise for that Listen Listen let me tell you something Oh yeah. Let's make some noise for that. Listen, let me tell you something. A lot of niggas get high with people named Jamal. And they get high with people named Jamaica. This nigga got high with Lindsay Lohan. Paris H him.
Starting point is 00:50:26 His first girl was Kim Kardashian. Let's praise this nigga's fucking nose and his dick. God damn it. God damn it. You're my friend, Scott. I got to big you up. I don't know if you know, this is a platform where we big up our legends. And see, a lot of people don't give you the credit for busting it wide open.
Starting point is 00:50:47 You bust it wide open. A lot of things. Come on, Scott. You can think about it. Let's think about it together. Come on, let's look. Scott, and I want to praise you for that. You was the first nigga I ever seen with Star Island.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Star Island was very... I did a lot of firsts. A lot of first Bugatti, first all kinds of shit. Tomah, Tomah, Tomah, Tomah. Tomah. That is correct. The first Bugatti,
Starting point is 00:51:17 I didn't know what the fuck he was saying to me. He said, this is a Bugatti. I said, that's a fact. I don't know what he's talking about. I don't know what he's doing. Like, he's sitting.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Like, listen. This is a true story. True story. The first thing I did when I got that car delivered, I ripped the plastic off the seats, and I sparked a backwood in the front driver's seat in my driveway. On the passenger or the driver's seat? Just to drive them, you know, sit there, and I just chrwood in the front driver's seat in my driveway. On the passenger or the front driver's seat? Just to drive them, you know, sit there and I just christened the car.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Yeah. Disrespectful. Did you bust a nut as well? There's probably some DNA of mine left in that car. Let's make some noise for that DNA, God damn it. Make some noise for that DNA, God damn it. Yo, Scott, let me tell you something, Scott. I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 00:52:04 At one point, you was like Scarface to me. Like, is that respectful? No, I agree with it. I seen you in your crib one day. And you closed the drawer. Eddie Giggs was there with you. It was like when LeBron. I said, listen.
Starting point is 00:52:33 It was more like Jack Nicholson in Departed. Think about it. I don't remember that part, but I definitely remember when LeBron was like that. And I said, yo, Scott, you had... And it was the pure, purest of the pure. Listen, let's make some noise for Scott Storch. Listen, a lot of y'all niggas seen Scarface
Starting point is 00:52:55 the movie. Y'all never seen a Scarface in real life. Let's make some noise for Scarface in real life. Let's make some noise. Scarface in real life. I said, Scott doing it. Scott doing it. This is real shit. And I respect you, Scott.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Just want you to know that from the bottom of my heart, you've always been a great guy and I'm always respect you like that. And Steve LaBelle, we're going gonna get back into you. It's all good Last time we had you on the phone. We asked you a jam master J story You didn't really want to get into it because we was on the phone. Yeah So now we need you to give us because you know Jam master Jake real Queens guy exactly We have to pay tribute and respect to Jam Master J And to the fucking bitch ass nigga who fucking shot him me fuck and listen first white guy
Starting point is 00:53:51 We allow you to say nigga I'm with you, nigga. Call that nigga a nigga. Come on, Scott. I'm with you, goddamn. Whoever killed him, man. All right, let's go live. Let's go live. Oh, I got that. Yo, Scott, look at this shot. Don't say you with him.
Starting point is 00:54:11 It ain't gonna lie. Scott, I've been doing it. 4B. 4B. Hold on. By the way, we're in apartment 4B. Yep. Shout out to apartment 4B, man.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Good looking out. Let me bring up my man again. Let me bring up my man. Come over here. Come over here. Come over here. Apartment 4B, please. Shout out to Graham Come over here. Apartment 4B, please. Shout out to Graham and all that.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Apartment 4B, follow us at apartmentapt.4b. Queens. We in LA. Legendary going down. Scott been dissing me all night. You see his shots? You see my shots? I even had a shot.
Starting point is 00:54:42 No, no. I don't have that shot. I feel like you needed that.'t have a drink but shit. I'm going to blowjobs. I'll finish it. Like I said, to whoever the motherfucking bitch ass nigga out there killed Jam Master Jay,
Starting point is 00:54:57 I did, I did. May you and your family rot in hell. It's funny because you're from Queens so so every Fourth of July, Jay would call me. He's like, Steve, call your Italian buddies and let's get some fireworks. We go to Spaghetti Park. Spaghetti Park.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Yeah, you know, the first time I ever seen John Gotti was in Spaghetti Park when he beat his case. I'm like maybe six, seven years old, and I'm in Spaghetti Park, and John Gotti beat his case. So when you said that on the podcast, when you hung up, I actually said that story, correct? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:30 And when you said that, I knew you were official. Lemon Icy King. Hell yeah. I just took my dad to Lemon Icy King when I was in Queens. I'm going back to Queens next week for my birthday.
Starting point is 00:55:38 I'll be 51, man. You going to Queens for your birthday? Hell yeah. No, no, no. Go to Vegas, please. No, I'm Vegas. What do you call it? What do you call it, Miami what?
Starting point is 00:55:49 Frostbite? There's no Las Vegas frostbite to me. Are you going to eat some Molly ass? Let's do it. I eat some Molly ass. Let's do it. I'm going home to tell my father, OG Ted. But, you know, Jay always wanted the fireworks to bring back to 2 3rd and Hollis and blow up all the fireworks for the kids.
Starting point is 00:56:03 And we used to always get the fireworks and go over there and Just you know, I just got so many stories man from easy to so much shit man. Now how we go? Rest in peace Jam Master Jay, but it's the first of them on. Tell me, tell me. It's the first of the month. Yeah, you asked me. Yeah, so look. It's short. You made it. Listen, listen, listen. Listen, 1993.
Starting point is 00:56:32 This is it. Let's get into that. Ruthless Records was distributed by Relativity Sony. Yeah, man, he's involved. I worked at Relativity. Easy, we did his album. We did MC Ren. We did App Band Clan, which was Will.i.am.
Starting point is 00:56:44 If you remember App Band Clan. Bloods of Abraham. There was a white rap group, which was Jerry Heller's nephew, Terry Heller's. Oh, shit. I didn't know that. There was so many artists signed to Ruthless. You know, Eazy was a real businessman. So I was A&R-ing there at the time.
Starting point is 00:57:00 So when Bone Thugs came in New York, Eazy had died. So they didn't really know anybody but me. So I was the A&R. I did their solo projects. I did the Mo Thug label that we had so many hits. And then I just started managing them. So I was around the first of the month of Thuggish Ruggets, For the Love of Money, all that.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Keep it right there. It's the first of the month. Wow, this guy. You heard that record, and what did you say? Shit. Wow. You knew Yeah but you know
Starting point is 00:57:26 Bone are very innovative And creative man They sing and rap man And you know Wiz salutes him A$AP Rocky salutes him Kendrick salutes him All right
Starting point is 00:57:33 But I feel like Bone thugs Don't get their dues Yeah And they've sold 50 million records Which is hard for a rapper 50 million What?
Starting point is 00:57:42 And they collabed Wait say it one more time 50 million What? And they collabed with And you, say it one more time. 50 million. What? And they collabed with... And you see the merch, right? Say it one more time. You see the merch, right?
Starting point is 00:57:48 Say it one more time. 50 million. What? God damn it. It's still 50 million? And they're always touring. And at the end of the day, their only rap group,
Starting point is 00:57:56 no MP3... Big up. God damn it. No MP3 that did songs with Eazy, Pac, Biggie, Jam Master, J-Met, Mentored them after Eazy died. Did a record with Pun
Starting point is 00:58:05 Did a record with Mariah, so many people Tupac, Doug Love But you know I'm still with them It shows you the integrity of myself Because all I know is loyalty and integrity So 23 years later All of them is my niggas too Yeah they crazy but they all talented
Starting point is 00:58:21 Individual years So now Scott Definitely Melodic shit They're all talented. No, no, no. They're all talented. They brought a melody to the show. Definitely, definitely. Exactly. Melodic shit. AK, nigga. I need the beginning of the beginning.
Starting point is 00:58:36 I wish we had a keyboard here. Listen, we plan to have a keyboard here. But you know what? I figured that's what every other interviewer is going to try to do. Yeah, you're right. You're right. And I said, you know what I figured that's what every other interviewer Is going to try to do And I said you know what This is my brother Queens guys wouldn't do it They don't follow
Starting point is 00:58:52 Cause you know what he ain't going to fuck with them Like he ain't fuck with me So I said at first I was like You know find the keyboard and all that And then I said you know what I looked at him on the internet I seen how he killed I said, you know what? I looked at him on the internet. I seen how he killed it. I seen how he killed every...
Starting point is 00:59:08 I said, you know what? I just want to speak to my brother. But now, for our listeners, how did... It's still Dre Day, nigga. How did it happen? I'm going to tell you right now. I remember that clear as a bell.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Dre would program some drums every day. Like we would sit in there and he would come up with a drum pattern. And that particular day was boom, snap, boom, snap, boom, snap, snap, snap, boom. And then he went and ate a sandwich. Sandwich? In the kitchen at Encore Studios. What does he eat? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:42 He was having a sandwich. Was it turkey and cheese? It could have been. Quite likely. Definitely was ham and sandwich. Was it turkey and cheese? It could have been. Quite likely. Definitely was ham and cheese. So he went and had a sandwich. Don't tell me it's ham. And the kitchen is obviously within earshot of the control room of the studio.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Go ahead. And he just left the pattern just playing. And I got on that joint and I said, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. And he walked in with the sandwich in his hand and he said, that's it right there. Because we was down to the wire. We had been making record after record.
Starting point is 01:00:10 We made 100 records. And we were looking for that single. And he said, that's it right there. That's it. And by the end of the day. And you did that on the piano. I did that on the piano. Five minutes later, we put everything around that shit. It was just a bass and a little string.
Starting point is 01:00:24 We didn't do nothing to it. It was just three elements. We sent it off to Jay-Z. No, but the rumor was that was your idea to send it to Jay-Z. No. That was not the rumor. I mean, obviously, it would have been a great idea,
Starting point is 01:00:38 but I'm quite certain that came from Dr. Dre. Oh. He's a visionary, man. I learned so much from that dude. I'm not trying to be a dick rider or nothing, but for real, that was how I learned how to do what the fuck I did. Just watching him bring the best out of artists. And he said that to you after the beat is made. He said, I'm going to send it to Sly.
Starting point is 01:00:56 We have, yeah, yeah. As big as Sly. We have high standards. We respect you, baby. As a beat maker, we like to have high standards and be like, nah, nah, we're going to scrap these joints and shit and look for that magic shit. But Dre takes that to a whole other level. I mean, straight fire where we're all in the room like, this shit is crazy. He's like, that's all right.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Let's keep going. Now. That's that level. Levels to the shit. And. What's up, city boy D? How you doing, man? What's going on boy D How you doing man What's going on man
Starting point is 01:01:27 You text me back now I'm going there So Do you think Cause now you came from the roots Now the roots is a musical band That's Like if you listen to the Like Trial Call Crash album Now, The Roots is a musical band. If you listen to the Trial Called Quest album that just came out, love it.
Starting point is 01:01:53 You could hear it loud. You could hear it in the speakers, but then you could hear it on the little headphones. And that's when I know your album is dope. Of course. Rest in peace, Fife. Rest in peace, Fife. But so is The Roots. The Roots is like a musical band. Funny you should say that. Of course. Rest in peace, Phife. Rest in peace, Phife. Absolutely. But so is The Roots. The Roots is like a musical band. Funny you should say that. Go ahead. Because
Starting point is 01:02:10 The Roots, we got our tone center from an instrument called the Fender Rhodes, which is an electric piano. Say it again for our listeners. It's an electric piano used in most soulful music in the 70s, etc.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Now, Tribe Called Quest, a lot of their samples were samples from old records like Herbie Hancock, Bob James, all these different people that played the Fender Rhodes keyboard. So, when everybody was sampling it, I started
Starting point is 01:02:43 playing it a lot. Everybody's on the Rhodes' dick For the past 20 years But nobody was fucking with it When I got on it And I was like yo this keyboard That's what they sampling So I said I bought one
Starting point is 01:02:57 At the time nobody wanted this keyboard It was $200 I got it from an old church It was giving them away In Philly? In Philly So I had this. It was given to me. In Philly? In Philly. It was the size of a coffin. Can you imagine touring on the street with this big-ass keyboard? It was like moving a fucking real piano.
Starting point is 01:03:14 So whatever. That was what I was able to do. And that's what I do now. I'm able to take whatever the vibe is. And I do everything live. Hip-hop has gone through periods take whatever the vibe is and I do everything live. So I've, you know, hip-hop has gone through periods where people are sampling and playing live shit. I was able to persevere
Starting point is 01:03:31 through all of that shit because I play it live. And if samples are in, I play it live in such a way where I make it sound like samples. I add dirt to it. I add records crackling underneath everything. Filter that shit and just manipulate it. Now let's get into that lean back, baby.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Lean back. What the fuck happened there? Raul, our mutual friend, brought Fat Joe out to my crib in Western Florida. Okay, let's describe to people where Western Florida is. In the middle of fucking nowhere. Because I still don't know where Weston is. I was trying to. I thought she was going to take some time. It's west of Fort Lauderdale.
Starting point is 01:04:10 About 30 minutes. Very fast. It used to be the swamps. But now it's nice. There's a lot of mosquitoes out there. It's mosquitoes and $3 million cribs. And then what happens? So you're out there.
Starting point is 01:04:23 So Joe comes out and he describes sort of what he was feeling. Yeah, because he told me he beatboxed this shit to you. Was that true? No, I don't think he did, no. But that's okay. But there's a whole other story about a girl named Beatbox. A girl beatbox? It has to do with a Terror Squad trizzy.
Starting point is 01:04:40 But that's a whole other thing. That's a whole other story from your beatbox. Definitely don't want to get into that. Like, let's go there. I'm around the corner from that. No, but for real. So he described what he wanted. And 15 minutes later, he had to lean back.
Starting point is 01:04:55 He had to lean back. And then he says, Scott, I need an intro. I need some real hard shit. So I said, um, um, um So I said And it just happened And boom They thought I was a musical genius I just got lucky That day it was like
Starting point is 01:05:11 It's creative genius But you didn't say that again You didn't say that again in your life Scott Storch is a musical genius Been lucky a lot of times I just remember for real In 2005, that was the MTV Music Awards.
Starting point is 01:05:28 One of the Scott Storch moments that was just, I'm into this shit. In 2005, the MTV Music Awards was in Miami. And I had the very first McLaren SLR,
Starting point is 01:05:43 the wings that go up. And so ignorantly, I left that shit on the red carpet, like, shh. And I walked away with the doors open. I had Paris Hilton on my arm. And I went and I performed Lean Back. And I remember we had,
Starting point is 01:05:59 I looked out into the audience and I seen Bruce Willis leaning back. And that was some of the coolest shit I ever seen in my life. Let's make some noise for Bruce Willis. And I know Fat Joe. Ask Fat Joe. Say Bruce Willis. He's gonna say lean back. But Paris, that's the first person that introduced you to cocaine? Is that true? Stop! He digressed.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Los Angeles did that. No, I heard that. Come on man, I introduced myself to that shit. I read it and I'm like, something like that. Man, people always point the finger at anybody else. I put that shit in my nose. Ain't no fucking girl putting that in my nose. Let's point the girl out, though.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Listen, I'm going to be honest. Me and her had a gang of fun, though. I'm from the hood. I'm from the hood. Every person that ever went there is a girl. You know what? The combination of cocaine and pussy is a motherfucker. It's a motherfucker. It's a motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:06:45 It's a motherfucker. Tell us the first one, Sky. No. Come on, Sky. Just one. It was Lindsey. You think I remember that shit? No, I heard it was Lindsey.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Was it Lindsey? Stop. Paris? You're obsessed with Lindsey, brother. No, Sky's my man. He don't give a fuck. He know I'm fucking with him. No, no.
Starting point is 01:07:01 He don't give a fuck. Not to sound corny or square or nothing, but for real, I'm having more fun right now. And I smoke so much weed. I make so much music. And I hang out with my girl every night. We bug out. Big of your girl.
Starting point is 01:07:15 No, she's the shit. She got me off of that fucking bullshit. That shit. But let's talk about when you was on this shit. Huh? Let's talk about when you was on this shit. That's more fun, right? It's a little bit more fun. So, but Lindsey gave you coke before? I heard that. What? this shit. Let's talk about when you was on it. That's more fun, right? It's a little bit more fun.
Starting point is 01:07:28 But Lindsay gave you coke before? I heard that. What? I read it in a magazine. Lindsay gave you shit. Listen, why do you bring up all these girls? Because they're famous. No, but I'm saying they're like no fun. I know you've been with Jamaica, but I ain't gonna bring that up
Starting point is 01:07:43 because she's Jamaica. Just remember, Jamaica's way more fun. Trust me. But not to our listeners. Any day. Not to our listeners, because you're Scott Storch. You're the fucking shit. You got on $9,000 glasses. Pay attention.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Let me ask you a question. Would you want all these A-list girls on your yacht, or would you want 10 bad South American mommies with fucking fat asses? No, I'm a boring nigga, Scott. I go to Costco's. No, I'm a boring nigga, Scott. I go to Costco's. I'm just painting a picture. You want to know what I'm going to do tomorrow?
Starting point is 01:08:13 Listen, I'm going to Costco's. Nothing. Well, keep it real. Costco's is the shit, though. I like Avion. Yo, you know what? It's crazy. I'm a retard. Yo, listen, Scott.
Starting point is 01:08:21 You hang out with me. You never hang out with me again. In Miami. Like, listen. Like, if I go with you to the club, you'll be the thing I'm almost awesome. I've been through a lot of shit with this dude right here. But, no, I'm just telling you, in the daytime. Nori, can I ask you a question? Do you remember being a fugitive at my house?
Starting point is 01:08:35 Yes, I do. I was harboring a fugitive. Yes, give me a high five, Scott. Give me a high five, Scott. Yes, yes. And you know what? Now I go to Costco's every day. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:47 You go to Costco's? If there's time. Yo, Costco's the shit. Listen, I don't want to buy wine for one bottle. I want to buy 18. Did I say that out loud? Like maybe eight. Maybe eight at a time.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Save a couple trips. Yeah, so I buy mad bottles. I buy mad bottles and I go to Costco's all day. So, Steve LaBelle. Yes, sir. Bone thugs. I'm boring. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:09:17 No, we, no. You got cocaine story too. That's why you stop getting high. Nah, never in my life. That's why you stop getting high. Let's keep it real. Only God could judge, but never in my life judge Can I say something about Steve LaBelle Uh huh
Starting point is 01:09:26 I'm living great right now Cause I got this motherfucker Managing me Yeah And I'm just talking about financially And that's great But I'm just saying like I'm living a good life
Starting point is 01:09:35 Nah Steve's great I look forward to every day I get a text like Yo this motherfucker's gonna show up And he pulls shit out the woodwork for me He from Queens But we kill it every time Yeah
Starting point is 01:09:44 We working for real We working He from Queens He But we kill it every time. We working for real. He from Queens. He got me doing some shit. I'm like, you sure, man? He's doing shit that he wouldn't do because the game has changed so much. And it's different from back when he was doing a lot of stuff. So now we're living in a Spotify world, digital world. So many new artists getting signed.
Starting point is 01:10:00 It's hard to keep up. But you got to go with your gut and your ear. And we're leaders. We're not followers. So we can go on with a lot of people But sometimes it's good to break some new artists that about to break that kid pnb rocks. We going in with a big up pnb That's my nigga. I like that nigga and then Thursday Scott's going to a boogie with the hoodie from New York They love a boogie. That's the fan some stuff to Davies. We thought see the movies. He on the new out
Starting point is 01:10:22 Yeah, so we throw stuff to JV. He on the new album. Yeah, so we throwing stuff to M, new album. Nice. Everybody. M. When are we getting in the studio? And I try to get at Jay-Z because he's working on his album. So, Jay, Scott want to work with you, Jay-Z. Yeah, Jay-Z's got to get us. Let's make some history.
Starting point is 01:10:36 M going to do a complete thing. You know he got a whole lot of Bovito. You say he do something to M? No, you know, we throwing things out there. Oh, you can't just say that. You're very on point over here. We're very on point over here. We're throwing things out there. You can't just say that. We're very on point over here. We're very on point over here. We're throwing things out there.
Starting point is 01:10:47 It's Eminem. Are we officially saying that on Drink Shaps? I'm just saying we're throwing things out there. That Eminem is back in the studio? I don't know. Let's make some noise for us spreading the rumor. Eminem is back in the studio. When we start stuff, it's real.
Starting point is 01:10:58 We don't do stuff. And somehow Lindsay Lohan is going to be there. No. And Scott is making the beat. Let's make some noise for all that. Yo, listen. Mariah, we're working with everybody. Yo, both of you guys are my family.
Starting point is 01:11:13 I'm going to just be honest. And I'm so happy that you guys came to let me bug out with you guys. But y'all got information about Eminem being back in the studio? Everybody's back in the studio, man. Jay-Z being back in the studio? Everybody's back in the studio, man. Jay-Z's back in the studio. Everybody's back in the studio. And people want substance and people want real music, so that's what y'all bringing in.
Starting point is 01:11:32 The Tribe, because the Tribe album. Did they hit number one? Because I know their numbers is great. De La Soul hit number one. Do y'all feel like it's coming back to the real music? You think it is, Scott?
Starting point is 01:11:48 Yeah, and you know what? I'm on their heels. All these young producers. He's worked with Metro Boom and he's worked with Murder Beats. We collab with a lot of people. Can you give us something on that Carter 5? You're going to see some shit. It's crazy? I like this picture. I just looked at the picture.
Starting point is 01:12:05 I liked it. I love working with people that are hungry, too. You know one thing about you, Scott, is I always tell people, I say, if the producer send you the beat, I don't think you should work with him. And you've always been the guy that, come over here, come vibe with me. That's the only way it gets done, man. You got to vibe out.
Starting point is 01:12:31 You got to make art at the end of the day. It's really art. But can you agree with me? That's the reason why music died. Yeah. It's because everybody got rich, and everybody said, I'll send you the shit,
Starting point is 01:12:43 and you send the shit, and nobody got back together Like think about it and at a certain time and day and I don't want to put put it But when we all got to the studio together, there was no There was no But you in the studio wasn't like oh send it to my email and you don't even know who you Collaborating with just because someone's high at the the moment That's what's fucking up the music industry So on the business side
Starting point is 01:13:06 The game is twisted And I feel like 90s is back And people want substance and real music You know Bone Thug's working on a new album But at the end of the day You know at the end of the day There's a lot of great talented artists out here And the internet is a gift and a curse
Starting point is 01:13:20 But we gotta use it for our advantage And I always say to the younger generation out there, learn the business side. Do you know about publishing? Do you know ASCAP, BMI? Do you know about ancillary? Do you know about anything about touring? The newer generation, they want to do it to be cool. Do it to make history.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Money come and go, but history stays. I don't know. We're just working with everybody. Scott trusts me to bring the newer generation in To work with them And if Scott breaks The new generation Scott Storch is still Scott Storch Which he never left
Starting point is 01:13:49 Never left You see I looked at that man Out of the eye I don't know if you I don't know if you You almost lost your eye with that Yeah but that's all you can do Is eye to eye man
Starting point is 01:13:56 You know what Nori I feel like Loyalty and the integrity You didn't call me And principles and morals Is throwing out the game right now And it's fucked up. Yeah, I don't know how to do it.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Slime, you ain't got nothing to do with D-Shit. Come over here. This is a side podcast, by the way. Yeah. I love it. This is how we do it. Let me get something. Let's make it toast.
Starting point is 01:14:20 My man Reverend Run's birthday today. It's my birthday coming up. Scott's birthday coming up. This is how you know a nigga really been in France for a long time. Look at that. That's good. That's good. Look at the EFF.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Look how stubborn my nigga is. That nigga still ain't going to drink no champagne. Yo, cheers to all the real ones out there. To health and happiness. Scott, listen. You is a hardcore drinker. I'm going to quit. I'm taking another shot with you. No, I'm taking baby shots. No, I'm going to quit. I'm taking another shot with you.
Starting point is 01:14:46 No, I'm not. I'm taking baby shots. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. I'm in. I'm in. I'm like a kid. I can't even do it.
Starting point is 01:14:52 I'm just sipping. I'm in. Look at the size of these shots. I know we've all taken jobs to earn extra cash, right? Facts. Back in the days, what'd you do? I used to pump the Johnny Pump. I got a better way we can earn extra money on the side.
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Starting point is 01:16:46 writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser-known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best-selling author and meat-eater founder Stephen Ranella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here and I'll say it seems like the ice age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission.
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Starting point is 01:18:35 Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode,
Starting point is 01:18:58 I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content,
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Starting point is 01:20:26 This year, we are showing up and showing out. You need people being like, no, you're not going to tell us what to do. This regime is coming down on us. And I don't want to just survive. I want to thrive. You'll hear from trailblazers like Bob the Drag Queen. To freedom! Angelica Ross.
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Starting point is 01:21:12 It's just crazy because he was Joe's brother, but he was Joe's hype man when I met him, right? And we would get in the van. You remember VanTastic back in the days in Massapequa? Unless you did talk to me like that. Why? Because I've been speaking about Fantastic for the first day of the podcast. Wow.
Starting point is 01:21:30 Yes, Fantastic from Long Island. That's Long Island. I don't know what you said. You said Massapequa? Massapequa. That's Long Island? Yes. Okay, my bad.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Continue. We used to go out there and rent vans. Every label used to do it, right? Mm-hmm. And we'd get the van. No, I can only put me on, so I wasn't even on the label. Because you're talking about 96. Man, I...
Starting point is 01:21:47 Whatever you're talking about right now is 96 and 97. I wasn't even talking about earlier than that. 93. Yeah, I was in jail. But I respect that you talked about that time. You know, up north, Rikers Island, all that.
Starting point is 01:21:59 You know, shout out Akineli. Yeah, ring up Akineli. I saw his show he's doing down there in Miami. It was crazy. But, you know, we would go get the doing down there in Miami it was crazy but you know we would go get the van right and it was me
Starting point is 01:22:08 Raul me and Raul go back about 25 years me Raul Flex full Flex rest in peace God bless
Starting point is 01:22:15 crazy man but a great man his kid named Rated R I know you know Rated R and then Joe and Pun and we were getting that fantastic van and Joe would not fly
Starting point is 01:22:23 back then he would not fly but then He would not fly But Pun was the flyer Yeah but Pun was just His hype man He wasn't Pun at the time And blew up Once Pun blew up
Starting point is 01:22:32 He was first class every day Joe was still vanning it Two first class Yeah we went to do Mixo Power Summit Rest in peace to Justo In Bahamas And there's a picture
Starting point is 01:22:40 Me and Cam and Pun I threw up the other day And Joe took a boat there And we flew there. But anyway, so Pun used to be Joe's hype man. We'd drive around the country. Joe thought he was K-R-S-1 back then. Nas, Khaled.
Starting point is 01:22:53 We would drive to Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, when retail stores existed, like Georgia's Music Room, and all that stuff, and radio, and mix show. I thought Georgia was in Chicago. Yeah, but we used to go to Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland. The way you talk. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:23:07 I just wanted to make sure you knew. There was so many facts. There's so many independent retail stores back then. You go and put up POP and bring shirts and do in-stores, give cassette samplers. You might as well hit it. And do radio. We had vinyl to go in the stations.
Starting point is 01:23:23 And Joe's hype, man. And I used to have the old Motorola Flip, right? Yeah. From the label, but they didn't want us to spend no money and have $40 a day per team. And you're talking about relativity? Yeah, two fat guys.
Starting point is 01:23:34 And I had those hip phones. Remember back in the days when the dudes used to stand on that Long Island Expressway and take numbers and hit the phones? So I had a throwaway phone on the road. And Punt, man, he used to always want to use my phone. And we would argue. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:23:48 Punt, I got to call radio. I got to call retail. I got to do all this stuff. And he's like, Steve, I just want to call my family and my kids. So I let him use my phone. And he would just always call his kids and sit on that phone and say how much he loved them. And that's why when he passed and all that stuff in the media, he said he didn't take care of his family. Let's not get sad.
Starting point is 01:24:02 So anyway, at the end of the day, he was Joe's hype man. And next thing you know, blew up. And then he was just off to the races, man. And one of the biggest Latino artists ever. And rest in peace to my brother. And I don't know. I just had Cuba Link, Triple Sace, Armageddon.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Big Amala. Back in those days. You know, Tony Sunshine came. Then Remy. But, you know, like I said, man, I've been around a lot of dudes in this game. I got a Terror Squad chain on, and I'm from the original Terror Squad. Yeah, me too. I love it all.
Starting point is 01:24:31 Me too. I introduced Jordan's wife. I need one of those chains. Let me just give you a story. This my nigga Twain. Yeah. He went to Vegas with 20 and lost 40. He went to Vegas with $80 and came back with 20.
Starting point is 01:24:44 Right? Y'all like that story, right? Just say y'all like that story. Say yes. I love it. I thought you meant $22. We have a better story tonight. Tonight, Twin is my little guy, right? He's the reason why I want to get to heaven. Because they say
Starting point is 01:25:02 in order to get to heaven, you got to do things for people that can never do things for you back. And that's my guy. I love him. Even if he can be able to do something for me back, I'm never going to take it. Because that's my guy.
Starting point is 01:25:17 That's my little guy. That's what real ones do, though. So Twain goes to the airport this morning. Shea Bear. He hit me. I hit him early because I'm an early bird. Because, you know, I used to be in jail.
Starting point is 01:25:40 And I got kids. With that combination together, I can't wake up after 6.30 So I wake up I just hit my little nigga Sonny never been to Cali in his life Sonny hit me 4.30 in the morning What's up nigga Calm down
Starting point is 01:25:57 We talking about flies at 11 Relax So I hit my nigga Sonny says he's coming over early I said yo listen Twin is coming
Starting point is 01:26:13 Sonny here's Twin I gotta go upstairs and shower Sonny here's Twin he says man Twin where you at Twin said shit it's a prayer
Starting point is 01:26:24 Sonny said This man, Twin, where you at? Twin said, shit is a brotherhood. Sonny said, what are you talking about? He's like, my sister can't have a fight on me. Is this true? What happened? Is this true?
Starting point is 01:26:42 Come on, Sonny. Come on, Sonny. What are you talking about? He didn't want the mic. He wanted the drink. Is this true? Come on, Sonny. Come on, Sonny. What are you doing? Your sister was... Keep it real. You want me to keep it real or are you worried? Because you know how to...
Starting point is 01:26:56 I'll give it all out. She bought it and she canceled it? Nah, nah. I'm paused. Your sister was... Are you sure? I paused. Look, I bought the flight.
Starting point is 01:27:04 You know what I'm saying? I'm negative in the bank, so I gave her the money to use her car. Pause. But then she canceled my, I went to the, you know, the counter to get my little check in. I'm happy as fuck. I'm going to. You told us your sister was fucking niggas. And then, no, the lady told me I don't have a flight.
Starting point is 01:27:21 And I was like, what you mean I don't have a flight? And she's like, oh, yeah, your mom called and canceled your flight. And I was like, oh. And I texted my sister. And I was like, oh, you had a good laugh, huh? What did your sister say? She said to call one of my rich friends to book my flight. And I was like, bitch, you better give me my money.
Starting point is 01:27:37 I had to ask you to give it to me. I know I got your flight. Listen, this is what happened. Told my sister to book a flight. 20's my little man. But the sister's fucking the homies. It's okay. We understand.
Starting point is 01:27:53 It happens. Big up to your sister fucking the homies. What? Your sister fucking the homies? And he blew the horn for that. My sister expects me to beef with my homies because she's beefing with them. I told her, you have a sexual relationship with her, and I have a brother relationship. You pointed at Sunny, man. Nah, nah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:17 She been smashing my friends. You know what I'm saying? Sunny smashed you? She want me to snitch on my friend. I'm not snitching on my nigga because you breaking the G code, man. You breaking the man code, all right? Snitching, bruh.
Starting point is 01:28:31 You know what I'm saying? Don't snitch, man. Yeah, Sonny's smashing? You're sad for your dad. OK. I don't know where it went. Not Sonny's. This is you.
Starting point is 01:28:39 But I got nothing really to do with that shit. So she canceled my flight. So he go to the airport. And he check in. You know how you check in. You put your shit on the thing. And they be weighing your shit. I don't check bags.
Starting point is 01:28:56 They weigh their shit. No, they weigh their shit. Was it over 47 pounds or something? I don't know. But I know it was over 97 pounds here. And they sent them out of the yack of the mean. Yack of the mean. So now I'm upstairs showering.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Sonny calling me like seven times. I see two missed calls from Twin. I said, damn, shit real downstairs. I don't know what I'm going to do. I don't really know what I'm going to do. But I'm going to make sure I smell good. Grab my Cartier, Tom Ford. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:29:31 Let me make sure. I came downstairs. And Sonny, he was trying to serenade you, like in a good way. I don't know if serenade was the right word. And in a good way. I don't know if serenade was the right word. But... And in a good way. Okay. Wait, relax, twin.
Starting point is 01:29:50 So, bottom line, his twin sister told him, you dead, nigga. You ain't getting on no flight. All I heard was when Sonny opened the door, he said, she's trying to dead my dreams.
Starting point is 01:30:12 Yo, Twin, talk about it, man. Don't diss your sister, though. We ain't want to do that over here. We don't diss women. Voice your opinion. What happened today? Man, what happened was my sister canceled my flight on me because we were beefing, you know
Starting point is 01:30:25 what I'm saying? We started beefing after the flight was booked. So she wanted to get me back. Because you keep fucking on your
Starting point is 01:30:32 homies? Yeah, man. You think she fucked Scott Storrs? Just keep it real. Just throw it out there. She had a Miami blizzard?
Starting point is 01:30:38 Scott fucked everything in Miami like 70 years ago. She probably did. I don't know. Oh my God. I don't know. Oh, my God. I don't recall. You don't interfere
Starting point is 01:30:51 with my flight, man. Come on, man. But she's fucking with the homies, though? Yeah. That's not right. That's not right because she says
Starting point is 01:31:01 I'm not loyal. I'm like, you not loyal. What you mean? You're making me look bad, man. What you mean? You know what I'm saying? Yo, Scott.
Starting point is 01:31:12 Steve. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. It went left. Yes, sir. It went left. As it does often. But you know what?
Starting point is 01:31:19 This is a beautiful thing. I made it. I made it. He made it. This is our guy. This is our guy. This is our guy. Listen, sometimes you got to take care of people. Got to give back.
Starting point is 01:31:29 That's what you got to do. That's all it's about. We give, it's not take it, man. You show them the world. It's your first time in LA? No, it's the second time. Last time was the $80, $20 story. Okay. You're changing people's lives, Nori.
Starting point is 01:31:44 You got to change people's lives, man. So what's... So, Scott Storch. What is next? What's going on? That's your artist? It looks like he's an artist right there. No.
Starting point is 01:31:58 With the dreads for some reason. You got to throw back... You look like your name is Lil Uzi Bell. Let's do it out there. Got to throw back Your name is Lil Uzi Bell What's next? Yeah what's next with Scott You know what I have an artist This girl Tyson 18 years old Singer
Starting point is 01:32:19 She's a singer She's dope Working on a whole bunch of different shit right now man being a freelance producer you know you want to work on the top projects that's out and you want to work on the newest shit that's out
Starting point is 01:32:37 and you know touch the you know the culture and I guess I'm trying to like do everything right now and just be versatile and just be everywhere. Now, we heard you in Russia and all that. Everywhere. Doing EDM and all that. Doing a movie, doing a TV show.
Starting point is 01:32:55 In Russia? I'm doing sound packs for Akai right now. I'm doing all kinds of stuff. Movie soundtracks? Doing performing live. I'm just doing stuff that, you know, I'm hungry again. You know, not in terms of the money part of it, but I'm fiending for that spot right now.
Starting point is 01:33:11 you know, like, I only know what it is to be at number one on the chart, so I'm going to stay there. That's where I live. Now, what's next for Steve? Shit, I'm just living life, man. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:33:27 You get caught up in this game 30 years and you do it for the love and the passion. And time goes by and you see a lot of things. But I never got to enjoy myself in life. So I'm just enjoying myself, doing what I do and going hard with Scott. We're going to win some Grammys together. We're just going to keep doing innovative and creative stuff that he never did. You know, going hard with Scott. You know, we're going to win some Grammys together. Yeah. And we're just going to keep doing innovative and creative stuff that he never did, you know? Yeah. He said we got a reality show going on.
Starting point is 01:33:52 You know, I got a bunch of stuff going on at all times. You know, I got a consulting business, Steve LaBelle Consulting. I'm doing a bunch of TV stuff, reality TV stuff. Working on new Bone Thugs album. We're about to go on the Snoop Dogg tour. Puff Puff Pass 2 tour. What month of December? Oh, he's touring. Yeah, with Bone Thugs out. We're about to go into Snoop Dogg tour. Puff Puff Pass 2 tour. What Bone Thugs? Always touring, yeah, with Bone Thugs, yo.
Starting point is 01:34:08 Yeah. We got a booking agency. You know, the Sean Kingston stuff. Just doing a bunch of stuff, man. Like, honestly, my Instagram is reworking because all I do is work, you know? All you do is work. And then I got a merch line called Hip Hop Don't Know You.
Starting point is 01:34:22 I just feel like for, like, I'm not going to stereotype. I'll stereotype this situation right now you know you meet a lot of young white kids right and I am white and you know they're 16 17 got their pants up there's faking half backwards saying they love hip-hop and doing it to be cool but they don't know who the Beastie Boys are third base hip-hop don't know you so you can't even conversate with me like learn it and big shout out to MC searches in LA right now LA right now. We're trying to get up for breakfast. You know, if you're from the Midwest
Starting point is 01:34:48 and you don't know what a Dayton family is or a proof 112 wrestling piece of MC Breed, hip-hop don't know you. So learn the business. Learn the forefathers. Just learn about the culture and the lifestyles deeper than just Instagram and social media to look cool.
Starting point is 01:35:03 I'm the guy that preached that. I do a lot of motivational speaking in juvenile halls, drug rehabs, and high schools and colleges about the music business and the music industry. So I do a lot of stuff like that. I go on tour and do that. I don't know. I just, I don't know. God is great, man.
Starting point is 01:35:19 Man, thank you so much, Steve. But before we get up out of here. I forgot what I was about to ask. Go home. You ain't tell the Jam Master J story. Relax. You cut him off like you always do. I throw a bogey at him now.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Cut Master Norrie right here, man. He says Jam Master J story. He's a Jam Master Jay story. We need a Jam Master Jay story. Who's that? That's my nephew. That's my nephew. Okay. That's my nephew. Queens?
Starting point is 01:35:52 Yeah, Queens. Left rack. Jam Master Jay was the realest. Yeah. And the clue to run DMC, the swag, one of the best DJs ever. And he comes from when he used to bring crates and stuff. And a lot of people look up to him. But like I said, man, me and Jay did so much.
Starting point is 01:36:06 Another story, I used to go to the Giants games and just watch Pepper Johnson in front of us, hours, and watch the Giants game, go to the Knicks game, watch Mark Jackson play. Just cool stuff, man. Jay was just the coolest, man. I wish that everybody got to see him, meet him. And whoever did, then they understand who he is.
Starting point is 01:36:22 But I don't forget where I come from. So every time I talk about the industry, I talk about Jam Master Jay and Jason Marzell. And that's it. I know he ain't trying to go positive or negative or whatever you want to say. But I always salute Jam Master Jay because he was the realest to me. And he's my friend. You think the police did a terrible job? Terrible job.
Starting point is 01:36:40 And like I said, whoever killed him, you know, and there's people who do know, that he rot in hell and their family get fucking raped and all types of shit just cremated and stabbed just every nasty thing you could imagine because Man Jay is hip-hop and um it's sad you know like other other accidents and other people got killed in the industry You know it was different things for that reason but for Jay come on getting killed playing the PlayStation You know Jay was one of the realest, so I take it personal.
Starting point is 01:37:08 That's it. I've just been blessed to work with Jay and Pun and Biggie and Pop and Eazy. Not a lot of people can say that. A lot of rappers... Describe Eazy-E before you forget about it. Marketing, businessman, crip, real one,
Starting point is 01:37:23 feared nobody. You showed that movie was inaccurate? No, 90% of that movie was real. When Shug came out? From what I heard, Shug never got at him like that. And at the end of the day, you ask Trey, you ask Cube, no matter what,
Starting point is 01:37:39 Eazy put the money up. Eazy was the marketing guy. Eazy was the businessman. In California right now. He signed Bone Thugs-N-Harmony, he signed At-Band. Eazy was the marketing guy. Eazy was the businessman. We're in California right now. Come on. He signed Bone Thugs-N-Harmony. He signed At-Band Clan, which was Will.i.am. Without him, we wouldn't have a lot of stuff we have today, man.
Starting point is 01:37:50 Gangsta rap and anybody who's real from the world knows the salute. Listen, his wife owns, you know, one of the biggest catalogs in the game. So that was Eazy's ruthless record. So, you know, he was innovative a brand ambassador Creative marketing genius. Come on, man. So at the end of the day, you know, we like I said, I feel like easy Don't get what he deserved. I don't think Bonk does get what they deserve a lot of some artists out. He don't get what they deserve But you know, I've been blessed to work with just you know, a lot of legendary groups three six my feet bone
Starting point is 01:38:22 I'm G. Like I said the outlaws and bone but You know, we need we just need to keep the culture alive man that's what we're doing really sonogram yeah city boy d but listen before we get up out of here your relationship with shug knight scott i want to start with you first. With Suge Knight. Suge Knight. You know what? He was somebody I had met a couple of times in Hollywood. And then years later, I moved into a very exclusive neighborhood in Beverly Hills. And he was my neighbor. And, you know, he was struggling with a lot of things, his personal life as well as I was.
Starting point is 01:39:13 And, you know, he never did anything to me other than show love. And, you know, I got nothing bad to say about the guy. And I know he was there for Tupac when nobody was. And, you know, life is a crazy journey. So, you know, whatever he's been through and has gone through, you know, big up to him. Yeah, I mean, I call him Simon. Simon, that's how everyone calls him. I know Simon a long time.
Starting point is 01:39:41 And I judge people off the way they treat me. And I live off respect and suge's always been cool with me you know and um i don't get involved with all the other stuff he say she say but at the end of the day whenever he saw me he showed me love yeah and um you know he's in the county jail right now and i feel like a lot of people should step up and put some money on his books i know one person that does alan grumbla for me one entertainment does look at you being a real queen yeah yeah yeah respect that and at the end of the day like come on he's a real queen's guy that's a queen's answer so you know the biggest catalog in hip-hop history is death row which e1 owns and but you know what people
Starting point is 01:40:19 need to go put some money on his books because Because at the end of the day, there's always three sides to a story. And that man helped a lot of people and changed a lot of people's lives. So if you wasn't there, you really can't say something about the man. But like I said, I judge people off the way they treat me. Like 90% of this music industry
Starting point is 01:40:39 is a lot of fake ones. Tell them. And they're scared and they hide behind stuff. And they call... Man, there's a lot of rappers get robbed and they call the they scared and they hide behind stuff and they call, man, there's a lot of rappers that get robbed and they call the white Jewish guy
Starting point is 01:40:48 from Queens in LA. But at the end of the day, like, don't put a facade on, be real, don't be fake and there's a lot of fake people but,
Starting point is 01:40:55 you know, they all smile on your face, stab you in the back. So, everybody out there who should have made rich and, you know,
Starting point is 01:41:00 discovered and helped, go put, just go put $50 on those books. You've been in jail so you know how much that means. But no one's even giving a fuck. That man's going, Eazy-E's son just came out the county.
Starting point is 01:41:10 He said he saw him. And he said he looked bad. And if I had the opportunity to go visit him, I'd go visit him. A little easy? Yeah, a little easy. He was in the county, and he saw him shook.
Starting point is 01:41:18 And they're like, yo, if you don't even know him, go put some money on the man's books because he did a lot for this culture. Yeah, that's true. And that's what I'm just saying. If he disrespects me, I'll say, you know, F him. But he never disrespects me. He always shows me love and I know him for a long time.
Starting point is 01:41:31 So on that note, let's big up Suge Knight. Teach his own. Only God can judge. Motherfucking right. I don't know. Make some noise. I love this shit. Keep going. Ask questions. I love this shit. I got no filter, so I'm going to tell you the truth.
Starting point is 01:41:47 Keep the questions going. No, I ain't like jokes. Make some noise. Let's make some noise for jokes. Come on. That's good. And it's funny. Me and Scott had a number of positive things to say, and we interacted at different times.
Starting point is 01:42:01 And that's beautiful. Ain't nobody going to challenge you or judge you or anything like that. Yeah, we fear no one but God. So if you ever got a problem, like, it is what it is. So I just want to thank both of you brothers for being here in the Drink Champs for this year. We're doing what we got to do like we does got to do around the corner from the percolator to the percolator to the percolator on the fire hydrant. And that equals water. Got me high as hell, Scott.
Starting point is 01:42:24 Your figure's smelling. Say it backwards. I did. It was already back. I did. The first time, it was... What language is that? Follow it.
Starting point is 01:42:41 Broken. I can't thank y'all enough. Diego, thank you for putting it together. Thank you for having Steve LaBelle, Scott Storch coming in here and just sitting here talking. And you know what? I've seen every other interview and they want to have Scott. We already know Scott is the guy. Still dope, though.
Starting point is 01:43:03 We know Scott is the guy. Every time you do it, it's dope. You guys are more than welcome invited over to Scott's house and watch him play grand piano in his living room. Scott is the guy. Still dope, though. We know Scott is the guy. Every time you do it, it's dope. You guys are more than welcome invited over to Scott's house and watch him play grand piano in his living room. No, we're going to do that. We're going to do that. That's another episode. See, it is appreciated. But that's another episode.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Right now it's holiday season. Okay. So we got to stack up the holidays. Let me find out you're going to be in L.A. without coming over. I'm going to be fucking pissed. No, no, no. No, no, don't worry. Holiday time?
Starting point is 01:43:24 Thanksgiving? No, we're coming back, too. All birthdays coming up? Yeah, no, no. Don't worry. Holiday time? Thanksgiving? No, we're coming back, too. Our birthday's coming up? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you live in L.A., too?
Starting point is 01:43:29 I live in L.A. and New York. I haven't seen your father swim in the Queens pool. Man, shout out my dad. I thought it was
Starting point is 01:43:35 the Queens pool. That's L.A. My dad's 83 years old, and he swims 30 laps, literally, real swimming. Wow, got that. And 83 years old, man, swims 30 laps, literally, real swimming. Wow. At 83 years old, man, Sal is a rapper.
Starting point is 01:43:47 Real gangster from Queens, and he knew Jay, he knew Joe. He knows everybody. But at the end of the day, I go back to see my dad, man, because I lost my mom a few years ago. God bless. And I regretted it because I've traveled so much in this game and chasing my dreams and chasing, you know, the history and the passion of this industry. So sometimes you forget to visit home and go home. So now I go home, take my dad to the Mets games, Yankee games, Jets, Giants, Knicks, Nets, all that. And just spend time in a lemon ice cream, Corona, just different shit, man.
Starting point is 01:44:17 Lemon ice cream. Yeah, because, you know, like we don't appreciate sometimes what we really have until it's too late. And, you know, so many people don't even appreciate a dollar bill or a toothbrush, you know, and there's people over the world starving and fucked up, so appreciate life. So I just go back home and see my dad a lot, man. We stay right where we grew up in Queens, and
Starting point is 01:44:36 I'm going back next week for Thanksgiving. So, you know, I don't forget where I come from, Norah. You already know that, man. Definitely not going back for Thanksgiving, but go ahead, Scott. Staying in Miami. I'm sorry. I'm here. Go ahead. This was something to leave with. Mad pressure.
Starting point is 01:44:54 No, just this is a pleasure to be here, man. I'm just so grateful that you put this amazing show together, man. I'm so proud of you, man. God bless. God bless these good people. God bless. Oh, thank you. God bless these good people. God dang.
Starting point is 01:45:07 God damn. God damn. Make some noise. God be in there. I'm in for it. Number one podcast, motherfucker. Let me tell you something. You know what they always say?
Starting point is 01:45:15 They say, oh, this one this, this one that. But you know what? You can never count no one out. And everything is there, man. No, don't say that. I want them to count me out. Yeah, well, fuck them because everybody counts a lot of people out,
Starting point is 01:45:26 but you got the hottest podcast in the world and you're shitting on a lot of people's stuff. A lot of people. Because you're being real with it and innovative and creative. That's right. People don't like that. They like the bullshit.
Starting point is 01:45:36 They don't like it. So, you know, if anybody deserves success, guys like yourself who has a resume and stripes, who put in a lot of work, man. Don't forget my brother DJ EFN. Yeah, of course, of course.
Starting point is 01:45:45 DJ EFN. My man James used to work at Azor back in the days. He runs a Wycliffe now. You know James, but at the end of the day. He put on some street team history. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't even know what it was, but it sounded fly to me. But you know, you guys are innovative.
Starting point is 01:45:59 You're creative. It's real. Thank you. And you put your, you know this is what I swear, man. Everybody wants to skip the work. And you deserve it because you put the work in You got the stripes man You're not skipping like you know what it is to go to Fantastic But then you know what it is to get on a private jet
Starting point is 01:46:14 And a Sprinter Fantastic to the Sprinter Exactly and a tall bus and a car Whatever needed to get done you were able to get it done And you're still relevant I tell people I'm a dinosaur but but I'm fossil fuel because I stay relevant. So as long as you have good call, I'm a dinosaur, but
Starting point is 01:46:29 I'm fossil fuel because I stay relevant. That was hard. I always try to tell people, man, on a business side, less is more. Less is more in quality over quantity. And to the younger generation that's listening to this, money comes and goes, but history stays. As long as you make history, you're going to make money.
Starting point is 01:46:46 Rolex don't define us. Benzes don't define us. Money don't define real ones. So just, you know, just work hard, man. Hard work's going to really pay off. And this is proven right here. This is hard work right here through trials and tribulations and still going. But respect it.
Starting point is 01:47:02 That's what the key to everything is. That's the real key to success, respect. Right. Goddamn, make some noise. Yeah's what the key to everything is. That's the real key to success, respect. Right. Goddamn, make some noise. Yeah. That was well said, Steve. No, I knew I was going to sneeze early. I knew I was going to sneeze early.
Starting point is 01:47:16 Yeah. But Scott, Steve, thank y'all for hanging out with the Dream Champs. Thank Apartment 4B. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Let's big them up. the Drink Champs. Thank Apartment 4B. Yes, sir. Let's big them up. My fellow Queens native. Hazardous sounds.
Starting point is 01:47:30 Hazardous sounds, of course. Queens? Ah, shit. My nigga that just dropped the Coca-Cola joint. Is DJ and Tyson still here? What up, DJ and Tyson? And you got your button on. We think you Chicano.
Starting point is 01:47:45 We don't think you Chicano at all. I'm just throwing it out there. But you're my friend. I'm not talking about Tito. You're my friend. Y'all just look to my left and I see my man's shirt right here. It's the fighter for Public Enemy. Shout out to Public Enemy. Chuck D, Flavor Flav. Definitely, man. But you're my nigga.
Starting point is 01:48:01 But you're from Fairfax, right? Nah, I'm from East Virginia. I knew you wasn't from Cali At all He's the one that connected us Yeah, I know He got the button up Don't look at me, little puppet
Starting point is 01:48:16 No He wasn't in that movie Yeah, I'm fucking with you So listen, Scott, Steve, yo, listen, the thing about our shit is we want to big up our people, the people that have been in this industry and continue staying in this industry,
Starting point is 01:48:36 and we want them to feel great every time they step in here. You know, we have, quote-unquote, a million listeners. I don't even give a fuck. But we got them every week and they tune in and we want to build up our legends. Because in our generation, when you have 10 years or better, people say it's over for you. They say fuck you, you old fucker.
Starting point is 01:49:02 And they say shit like that. But in rock and roll and jazz, they praise these people. The more years you have. And I want to change it. So I single-handedly didn't want to say, you know what? Look at what they do. I wanted to show what we do. So eventually, you know, during camps, we want to have our own version of Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 01:49:28 Actions speak louder than words, and that's what you're doing. You know what I'm saying? And this is what we want to do. So Drink Champs, a lot of people ask us, why you interview such and such and such? And we love the new generation as well. We're not dissing them in no way, shape, form or fashion. But they got the radio stations. How about the people who've been around forever and nobody patted them on their back?
Starting point is 01:50:00 That's what this is about and it's just like you know Scott been one of the richest people ever and he still is but he's the background guy where's the guy that continued to pat Scott on his back? That's who we are. The drink champs. Steve, you've been in the game. You ran with everybody. You made a nap. Never got a pat on your back. Honestly?
Starting point is 01:50:42 Honestly? That's who we are. We the people to say we appreciate you. That's why the champs is important. Drinks is one part of it. The champ part of it is the real
Starting point is 01:51:07 importance. We respect our legends and we want us to continue to keep doing what we're doing like you does what you gotta do around the corner from the percolator. Keeping the percolator percolated and on the fire hydrant and that equals
Starting point is 01:51:24 water. Now that's real shit you said. You know what it is? We just dudes behind the scenes, so to speak, being humble, just being humble. And that's really what it is, is being humble. Never forget where you come from. Never be cocky. Just be confident.
Starting point is 01:51:38 And we don't need the credit, man. I really don't. Like, I'm a behind-the-scenes type of dude, man. But I appreciate you. I appreciate that. This is what we do at Drink Champs. We give our legends the credit. Scott, don't you ever think we don't know how much money you made
Starting point is 01:51:53 when you was coming out there. You picked me up in a $60 million boat, and we got a $16 meal. It was fantastic. Fantastic. That was the hardest thing of my life. No more Aaron. Aaron, Aaron. That's the hardest thing of my life. No more Aaron. Aaron. That's the best, right?
Starting point is 01:52:09 Going to Chili's. And this is what I'm trying to say. A lot of people, listen, for the rest of my life, I will always respect the both of you brothers. Thank you, man. Likewise. The both of you brothers, I will always. What did you just pour?
Starting point is 01:52:24 A sober drink? Yeah. I don't like it. No, but it's not my thing, man. Don't like it. Continue the Cuban goodbye. Not in the drink champs cup. You should have just hit it from the head.
Starting point is 01:52:33 Like, now you got to put some Bacardi in there. But it doesn't matter. I really appreciate you brothers coming, hanging out. Apartment 4B, we appreciate you for letting us, you know what I'm saying, set up. Scott Starr, Steve LaBelle, you guys are wonderful people. Thank you for letting us bug out with y'all, having fun, because that's what Drink Champs is. We bug out, have fun with our legends, but we never forget to big up our legends. We never forget to make sure Our legends walk away saying These niggas understand
Starting point is 01:53:06 What I did in life What I did in this industry And what I did And that's what our whole shit is about So we want to say thank y'all Thank you And what we're about to do I'm still going to try to get you drunk
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