Drink Champs - Episode 452 w/ B.G.
Episode Date: May 2, 2025N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the one and only, B.G.! The legendary New Orleans rapper and former Hot Boys member dives into his storied career, discus...sing his early days with Cash Money Records, the formation of the Hot Boys, and his influence on Southern hip-hop. B.G. opens up about his time away from the spotlight, sharing personal insights and reflections. Fans can expect candid conversations, untold stories, and a celebration of B.G.'s enduring legacy in the rap game. Make some noise for B.G.!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more: * https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreaga See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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And when I tell you, I tell you, I swear to God.
I literally went to New Orleans and I tried to, I tried, I tried to get with folks.
Folks told me, man, you're fucking with the wrong folks.
It's not No Limit at the time.
It's the Hot Boys.
And I didn't know.
It was a Puerto Rican girl.
She had gold fronts in her teeth.
She said, she said, she said, she said,
Walden, you're doing the wrong thing.
You better go fuck with the highball.
You better go fuck with...
And I...
And what I realized
was
there's real niggas across the world.
Facts.
There's so many different parts of your life
that I respect, that I honor, that I watched.
And obviously one of them was when you were with the label.
The other was when you left the label.
And then the other is when you came back to the label the other was when you left the label and then the other is when you came
back to the label but then you you did so much things and the thing about it is this
i came to new orleans so many different times a lot of people don't know that new orleans
has a spanish community so i used to come i used to come and be there. But one thing for sure, two things for certain,
the whole city respect Chopper City. They whole respect B-Gizzle. They respect who BG represents.
They respect who, and you know what I did? Man, it was so many times. I've tried to connect.
I met you at Prodigy Video.
I'll tell you that part later.
But it was so many times.
And when I found out that you came home, because I didn't even realize you did.
13 years?
13?
No, it'd be 12 and a half.
12 and a half.
12 and a half.
You might as well say 13.
You might as well say 13.
And what I'm trying to say is, I'm going to be honest with you.
This might be the first time.
Where Mr. Lee at?
Right here.
Where Mr. Lee at?
This might be the first time that we're going to start the show off.
And I want to start the show off by giving you your flowers.
Man, nah.
Because you know why?
Bro.
One million percent, you deserve your flowers.
I was so excited, man. Because you know why? One million percent, you deserve your flowers.
I was so excited, man.
Let me tell you something.
Let me tell you something.
Because when you're a real one.
Wow.
Hey. Hey.
Wow.
And Snoop Dogg said it's better than the Grammy because it comes from your people
and he said it comes from your people
bro I'm so humbled
you know what I'm saying
and just so appreciative
and you know coming from you
who's the super legend
and it's like
this
you gonna make some noise for that
like how Like how much
this mean to me.
They got real flowers in there.
Let's go.
Go, go.
Yeah, yeah.
Let me just tell you something, man.
I'm going to be honest with you.
Had it been anybody else,
I'm out in vacation
in Puerto Rico,
and I forgot,
and I was like, oh shit,
BG is here,
and I said, nah,
out of anybody else in this world,
I'm flying back for BG is enough,
because you a real one,
come on, let me get,
I'll get up, I'll get up.
And you know what,
I'm going to be honest, I'm going to be honest.
I'm going to be honest, bro.
That's so fair.
No, no, no.
You deserve this shit.
No, no, no, no.
I appreciate it, bro.
You deserve this shit.
Like, from the bottom of my heart, bro.
I appreciate it.
You know what I mean?
And because you...
I'm going to just tell you something.
There's not a lot of real rappers.
There's not a lot.
Yeah, no.
There's a lot of them.
Yeah, I mean, you know.
I mean, this thing of ours that we call hip-hop, bro, it's a lot of dudes.
It's watered down, man.
It's just really, you know what I'm saying?
Like, like, really not.
He was nice.
He said, what did he say?
Wait, he just said watered down?
No, no, no.
It's crazy, though, because, you know, people get a little fame.
People get a little money, man, and they forget where they come from.
You know what I mean?
And I ain't never been him. Yeah come from. You know what I mean?
And I ain't never been him.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, I've always, you know, just been true to myself.
You know what I mean?
True to, you know, where I come from.
And just standing on what's real, man.
You know what I mean?
And that mean more to me than anything.
You know what I mean?
Okay.
Yeah, man.
So I'm going to bounce around a little bit.
All right.
But this is one of my favorite times when I seen you.
This is when you left
Cash Money, right?
Facts.
When you left Cash Money
and you just walking
through Chopper City
and you promoting Chopper City.
Mm-hmm.
And you,
I don't feel like,
in my opinion,
this is my opinion.
Go ahead.
You wasn't dissing
Cash Money, but you were saying, yo, I'm going to put together my four,
and you say these are not the hot boys.
Mm-hmm.
These are not the hot boys.
And I seen you in the hood.
I felt that shit so much.
Because I left.
I was down with a person named Tragedy.
Tragedy was my bird man.
Right, right, right, right, right.
And when I sent you going on your own, oh, my God, that shit touched me in a way because I was just like, damn. A lot of us don't understand that we're from the hood and we believe in the person
that's putting us on.
Big facts.
First and foremost, I just
want to say, man,
Baby and Slim,
they saved my life
with this music thing.
Let's make a noise for that.
Baby my man. that's my nigga big bags like you know it's deeper than rap you know i'm saying with me you know baby and slim and you know cash money changed my life you know saved my life
and you know at the end of the day you know we we went through what we went through
and you know i was young you know wow you And, you know, I was young. You know, wild.
You know, reckless.
You know what I'm saying?
I made some mistakes.
You know, they made some mistakes.
You know, and as we got older, you know, and as we grew, you know, we was able to have a conversation about it.
And, you know, really understand both sides.
You know, perspective of it.
You know what I mean?
But you, when I left, you know, they know me. Like, I but you when I left you know they know me like I'm
I'ma say what's on my mind you know and say what's in the hood yeah not facts because you walking
through with the red yeah because you know what's crazy the the reason I was able to come back
you know to the hood like that and in the hood was able to embrace me. Now, this is the same hood you're all from?
Yeah, yeah, all of us from Uptown,
from the 3 to the 13,
all of us from the hood.
But when we made it,
and when we got the $30 million deal,
and when we was on MTV and BET,
and doing the world tours,
and Chipotle jeans, Reeboks, all that
kind of things.
Like, I never forgot where I came from, you know what I mean?
The same dude I was, you know, when I had a thousand dollars, you know what I'm saying,
was the same dude I was when I got my first million dollars, you know what I mean?
So, you know, when I walked away, you know, from the dollar sign, you know what i mean so you know when when when i walked away you know from the from
the dollar sign you know what i mean with with with pretty much nothing you know what i mean
i probably had a couple hundred grand you know what i mean and i walked away and i just was like
man walked away from cash money you say yeah yeah yeah yeah like you know at the end of the day you
know when i was up i was the same dude I was when I was down.
You know what I mean?
So, you know, the hood embraced me and wrapped their arms around me because they knew, you know what I mean, that, man, like, I ain't never changed.
You know what I mean?
Like, I ain't never changing. There's a lot of dudes that when they get up, they get to shitting on their homies, talking to their homies, reckless, get to treating people bad, not just being the same person they was before they got on, man.
But I never was him, man.
You know what I mean I'd be you know in the barbershop on the block
you know watching you know 106 you know what I'm saying the videos come like I you know I'm saying
I had the pincers and you know all the whips and all that you know probably leave off tour and come
post up you know on the block you know just chilling because that's where you know, on the block, you know, just chilling because that's where, you know, I felt comfortable at, man.
So, you know, it was, it was, it wasn't nothing, man, for the, for the, for the hood to, you
know, just wrap their arms around me, man, because at the end of the day, when I was
up, I ain't never forgot, you know, where I came from.
He's the same person. Now, let me ask you, because here's one of the parts of the story when I'm looking.
And I always thought No Limit and Cash Money was like Bloods and Crips, right?
I'm from New York, so you got to actually let me get away with this, right?
You got to let me get away, because I'm outside of looking in.
Facts.
But when you research you, you say, damn, PG and Soulja Slim was damn near best friends.
Nah, big facts.
Big facts.
But Soulja Slim represented no limit.
Big facts.
Right?
Big facts.
So I'm looking, and I'm like, because I knew this, but as I'm researching it now, I'm saying, holy shit, this was actually, we would affiliate to Bloods and Crips now.
Nah, facts, facts.
And you know, Slim was originally supposed to be on Cash Money for real.
See, I don't know this.
You know what I mean?
Please, please, please tell me.
Please tell me.
Please tell me.
Nah, nah, nah.
Wait, so who?
Tell me.
I don't know that.
I don't know that.
Nah, for real.
Nah, because, you know, it was a group, UNLV, you know, who was signed to Cash Money, you
know, like previously the dudes that I came up under, you know what I mean?
And, you know, he was featured, you know, on the UNLV album.
And, you know, Slim was, man, Slim was a cold-blooded gangster, like, for real. Like, Slim just was, you know Slim was man Slim was a a cold-blooded gangster like for real like Slim
just was you know different like you know we talking Calio Magnolia yeah I mean yeah not Slim
Magnolia to the bone okay I mean Slim Slim from the Magnolia Projects you know what I mean you
know he started you know on on the parkway with KLC, you know what I mean? The producer. The producer.
Absolutely.
Nah, facts.
And yeah, man, Slim, but Slim had one foot in and one foot out,
you know what I mean?
So, you know, I don't think.
Yeah, I don't think you ever talked about this.
I don't think you ever talked about this.
But back then, like I said, you know, we was just young niggas.
You know what I'm saying?
We was wild.
And I don't even think we had realized, you know, how much, you know, rap and music, you know, could change our lives.
Like, we just was doing it for the love of the music at the time.
You know what I mean?
And just doing it for the city, you know, representing, you know, where we came from, our hoods. Representing our wars and things of that nature.
But, you know, Slim was going back and forth to jail for carjackings and, you know, attempted murders.
Murders on robberies.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, all type of shit.
Like, so, you know, finally, you know, when Slim, I think Slim had caught his last jokes.
You know what I mean?
And he came home and, you know, KLC, you know what I'm saying, pulled him under his wing.
And, you know, No Limit was, you know what I mean?
Now, KLC was producing for No Limit?
Yeah, he was producing for No Limit.
Here's my next question.
Absolutely.
So Slim also had his ties to C-Murda.
Nah, big, yeah, yeah, nah, facts.
And that came from when he went to No Limit, facts.
Okay, so
how was you and C
Murder's relationship? Because, I mean,
I'm an outsider looking in, so I'm asking
this out of ignorance. Me and C
Murder relationship came through slim.
You know what I mean? Like, you know,
me and Slim.
Because as a fan,
I want to know this. I'm asking this as a fan.
I'm sorry. Yeah, nah, nah, nah.
Facts.
Me and C, murder relationship, you know, yeah, pretty much came through Slim.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, after Slim was murdered, you know what I mean?
And I understood and respected, you know, the relationship that Slim and C had.
And then C ended up falling on his murder charge and
you know he reached out to me you know
to get on the record oh y'all done heard
of me you know what I mean
was that when you was in jail too or no
I was out I was out you know
C murder was in you know what I'm saying
he reached out to me you know to get
on the record you know what I'm saying
and I've always been a fan of No Limit
you know what I mean and they whole movement we always want a fan of No Limit. You know what I mean? And the whole movement.
We always want to hear that.
We heard that even,
I think Baby
kind of even said that to us.
Yeah, yeah.
And P even said
it was mutual respect.
Okay, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Not only that,
like,
if you really do your history
and your homework,
like,
you know that Mac
was on my first
Choppa City album.
Like,
Mac is my brother. Like, me
and Mac, you know, grew up together.
Or me and X is
like a, you know, big sister to me.
Like, you know, we go back
20, 25 years.
You know what I'm saying? Fiend.
You know, we used to live like a block
away from each other, you know, when I
was in elementary school.
Like, you know, I got ties to a bunch of artists, you know, on No Limit.
Like, I mean, the city's small.
It's kind of big, but it's small.
See, the city's small to y'all, but to us, when we see Calio, we see Magnolia,
we thinking this is...
Man, listen, all that's in like a full five block radius, man.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
We don't know that.
The Cali, you're right here.
Magnolia, you're right here.
Milfameen, right here.
13 Wall, right here.
And then the 17 Wall, like right back here.
And it's all uptown.
But man, all that shit five, ten minutes away from each other.
You know what I mean?
Let me just tell you, as a New Yorker.
I'm popping you.
Now, now.
You know what I'm saying? You right there you as a New Yorker. I'm popping you with the blouse and you know what I'm saying?
You right there. It's my friend.
It's my brother,
Airfan.
I don't know how
you looked at it.
What?
No, I'm talking about
looking at it.
But we thought
like,
Calio and Magnolia
Hell nah,
that's five,
ten minutes.
Man, that's five minutes.
We thought y'all was
Man, if you know
the cuts in the streets
and the boop-bop-bam It's really four minutes. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know what I'm saying, man, that's five minutes. We thought y'all was. And if you know the cuts and the streets and the boop-bop-bam.
It's really four minutes.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
You get more.
It's a hop, skip, and a jump.
Go up, boop-bop-bam, and you right there in the project.
All right.
You know what I'm saying?
From one project to the next in like five minutes.
Wow.
Nah, big facts.
Wow.
Big facts.
Big facts.
Okay.
I'm going to give you a story.
I went to try to do a record with No Limit.
I couldn't reach them, right? Okay, okay, okay.
I was telling them where my brother-in-law at, my brother-in-law.
So I went to the W Hotel.
It's in between.
Right in the CBD.
Right in the casino.
I know exactly where you at.
And it's this Puerto Rican girl.
And she came to me and she said, No Limit not the shit no more. Right in the CBD. Right in the casino. I know exactly where you at. And it's this Puerto Rican girl.
And she came to me and she said, no lemon, not the shit no more.
And I said, what?
And she said, you better go fuck with them cash money boys.
And I said, okay.
And I reached out to Baby.
That's why me and Baby to this day is cool.
And Baby said, you sure?
You want to fuck with us?
I said, yeah.
You know I know.
You know I know.
So I said, yeah.
And it was Jewelry.
So all right.
So let me just tell you something.
A lot of people think that Jay-Z worked with Juvie first.
That's not the case.
No, no, no, no, no.
It's me.
It's me.
I worked with Cash Money first.
This is documented.
You can do it.
It's a 1999 on my album.
And Baby said to me, fuck with my niggas.
And he introduced me to you.
Introduced me to Juvie.
The only person I didn't understand was Lil Wayne.
I couldn't get it at that time.
He was so young.
Right, right, right, right.
I couldn't get it.
But I want to go to there.
I look at, I watched y'all documentaries.
Y'all had about three or four documentaries.
I'm sitting there like this.
So I forgot Birdman's brother that passed away.
Yeah, yeah, Eldridge.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm looking, and I'm going to be honest with you.
I want you to answer me honestly, too.
I know you are.
Because you don't know how to be fake.
I know that.
I know that.
But when I watch that shit, I'm talking about, this is skinny BG.
And I'm so happy.
I'm so happy. I'm watching you.
But what do you think that you were happy
because this was your first time getting out the hood
or you were just happy
because this is the first opportunity you had?
What do you think?
I mean, I ain't even lying.
Like, you know
before we even got the deal
like you know
we had been
you know
had the salt on lock
and you know
been getting money
and you know
been doing
you know
popping bottles
and you know
doing our thing
man
I just
I think
I was just
more so happy
that like like like damn, like, we've, like, man, because when you come from the hood, like, you really can't see past the hood, for real.
You know what with a thought that we would have reached, you know, the levels of success that we was able to reach.
And, you know, for Wayne, you know, be the golden, you know, for cash money to have been in, you know, define the whole era.
And, you know, for the cash money brand to just be as big as it is.
And, you know, for juvenile to still be getting plaques from 400 degrees, like, 25 years later, like, you know what I mean?
Just, you know, for me to have a word in the dictionary, like, bling, bling.
And you know, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, bro, like, man, bro, coming from where I come from, bro, like, you know, bro, like, you came C-Pass 25 for real.
I gotta have a drink.
I don't know whatever drink you got.
I gotta have a drink. Oh, it came on time.
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Man, so...
I'm going to be honest with you.
I just was having fun, bro.
I'm going to be honest with you.
Let me give you your flowers.
I seen hood niggas make it before.
Mm-hmm.
But I'm going to be honest with you.
I never seen hood niggas make it like y'all.
Nah, big facts, man.
And I'm going to be honest with you.
I'm going to be honest with you.
When you came home, I'm going to ask you about this, but I'm going to ask you about this later.
Okay. You made a diss record
towards Cash Money. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's the first time I ever in my life
seen a person make
a diss record and get a pass for it.
That nigga was like,
that nigga got a whole
he got a right.
You understand what I'm saying
I've never heard no response
I've never heard
no I'm dead serious
when you right you right when you wrong you wrong
you know what I mean so you know at the end
of the day man like I say man
you know
bro the bros know
like man it's just gonna be tripping man
you know what I'm saying?
Like, they know, you know what I'm saying?
Like, when I get in my feelings, I spaz out.
You know what I mean?
Because you, I believe Turk was on here, and you was like, man, tell Turk to shut the fuck up.
And I'm like, I'm like These gentlemen just told you
To shut up
And then just told everybody
Shut up too
At the same time
And I'm like
I had never seen that before
Sound like family talk though
No but you know what
That's family
That's family
For everything
Ain't for everybody
But what is with
You had to get that
Off your chest
Yeah absolutely I did absolutely I had to get that off your chest? Yeah, absolutely. I did.
Absolutely. I had to get that off my chest.
You know what I mean? And, you know,
niggas understand it.
Like, like, like, like, you know,
we done talked about it and
you know, it's all around. Nigga, we had a whole meeting
about it. We was like, this nigga BG is crazy.
Shitting on everybody and they cool with it.
I said this
really
I'm like hold
and I know Birdman I know him
nah man Birdman raised me
bro you know what I'm saying
like you know that's like
a father figure to me you know what I'm saying
him and Slim you know what I mean
I got the utmost love for him.
I love that.
You know, respect for him.
I love that.
You know, it's always be like that, you know what I'm saying?
But, you know, sometimes, like, you know, shit, you know what I mean?
You know, we laugh about it, we joke about it, but...
On a private plane, I imagine.
Yeah, no, I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying?
You're not joking about it in Rob Playland.
Man, listen.
Yeah, nah, even after that, I'm saying. You're not joking about it in Rob Playland. Man, listen.
Even after that, I'm going to be like, bitch, look, bitch, you know you're on bad, bitch.
Come on, Ron.
Come on.
Don't do me that.
It's me.
You know what I'm saying?
Don't, don't, don't.
You know what I'm saying?
But, you know, at the end of the day, man, it's deeper than rap, man.
You know what I mean?
It's deeper than rap, man. And the love and mean? It's deeper than rap, man, and the love
and respect, you know what I'm saying,
gonna always be there, you know what I'm saying?
But, you know, like, you know,
in the booth
and, you know, in the studio,
you know what I mean?
You know, when you're just getting them
emotions out and
just getting them feelings out and just,
you know, speaking from the heart, like, you know,
shit just come out, you know what I mean? You feelings out and just, you know, speaking from the heart, like, you know, shit just come out,
you know what I mean?
You know, I just, you know what I'm saying?
Sometimes shit just come out, man.
And, you know, but at the end of the day,
man, you know, I'm always be, you know,
like, you know, I live and breathe,
you know what I'm saying, for Chopper City, man.
But, you know, cash money gonna always be my home. You know what I'm saying, for Choppa City, man. But, you know, cash money going to always be my home.
I love that.
You know what I mean?
I love that.
But do you realize, like, when it comes to the real nigga category,
and I don't even want to use the word nigga, right?
But real.
Yeah.
It's Tupac, DMX, and then it's BG.
Oh, man, that's a hell of a lineup.
You hear me? Nah, and then it's BG. Oh, man, that's a hell of a lineup. You hear me?
Nah, that's love.
I ain't even put myself in there.
You two niggas know everything.
I ain't even put myself in there.
But what I'm saying is, do you realize that?
You realize, like, let me tell you something.
I love you, man.
I love who you represent. I love who you represent.
I love who you are.
And it was a blessing for me to just go and reiterate your category.
And I just kept looking.
And I was just like, damn.
I just kept telling my son.
My son is right there.
He's my son
Yeah
He right there
Yeah
And I just kept telling him
I was like
Yo man
I kinda don't admire
Any other rappers
Nah
But I admire you
Man come on bro
Don't do me that
No
No no
No no
I'm serious
I'm serious
That's the reason
That's the reason why Birdman Is telling you, yo, I'm going to call you.
Because I told Birdman this.
I said, yo, man, when y'all was at the Outs, I never had an opinion.
Right, right, right, right, right, right, right.
I feel like y'all should make it right.
Nah, big facts.
Big facts.
And Slim, I told this to Slim.
And he knew, like, back then, like, you know, I was like, you know, just a young, you know, rebellious, you know, child back then like You know I was like you know just a young
You know rebellious
You know child right you know what I'm saying
That's why he never answered me
Or never you know responded
You know what I mean because
I'm talking about you know when my mama
House was a stash house
You know what I mean you know back in the 80's
You know what I mean like
But we go Way back you know what I mean? You know, back in the 80s. You know what I mean? Wow. Like, but we go way back.
You know what I mean?
So, you know, the, like, he's just, I guess he just looked at it like, man, that's my
just young, wild, reckless, rebellious child.
You know what I'm saying?
And I ain't even much going, you know what I'm saying?
I'm just letting him vent.
You know what I'm saying?
And I ain't even going to answer.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean? So let me ask you. And that's just how that is. You know what I'm saying? And I ain't even going to answer. You heard me? You know what I mean?
So let me ask you.
And that's just how that is.
As a person, like I just told you, Traz put me on.
Traz is like my bird, man.
Right.
And it was a certain point where Traz did something where I was just like, man, I can't forgive this.
And I made a diss record after he made a diss record, right?
Right.
I regret it.
This is me.
Yeah.
I'm not saying that you should regret it.
But what was the breaking point where you felt like, damn.
Was it when you was in jail or was it when you came home?
As far as what?
As far as like, damn, man, let me say something.
Let me get this off my chest, like how we
were speaking earlier.
You mean like...
That was before he went in.
Yeah, that was way before I went to jail.
I went to jail in 2011.
Yeah, because I see that
in the documentary.
I left Cash Money in what, 2002?
2003? You know what I mean? So I ain't go, 2002, 2003, you know what I mean?
So I ain't go to jail until, you know, 2011, you know what I mean?
But I think our first time really, you know, just is when his little sister Tamara died in a car wreck, you know what I'm saying?
God bless Tamara, man, you know what I mean? Like, may she the car wreck. You know what I'm saying? God bless Tamara, man. You know what I mean?
Like, may she rest in peace.
You know what I'm saying?
But I think she died in a car wreck in, like, 2007.
You know what I mean?
And, you know, me and Myra was, like, the same age.
You know what I mean?
And you reached out to him?
And me and Myra grew up together.
You know, that was like a sister to me.
Like, that was my sister.
You know what I mean,
and, you know, just as much as I knew it was hurting him, you know, it was hurting me, and one night, he was on the radio with Q93, you know what I mean, with Wild Wayne, man, shout out to
Wild Wayne, and I heard him on the radio, and I called in, you know what I mean radio and I called in you know what I mean and I called in live man and um and
and while Wayne plug you know both us in on the air together you know what I mean and I just let
him know you know that that you know I I love him you know I was sorry for his loss you know blah
blah blah blah blah you know this this that and the other and then that's you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, this, this, that, and the other. And then that's, you know, when we started,
you know, just, you know, mending,
you know, the relationship and just, you know,
just really just forgiving each other
for everything that had happened,
you know what I'm saying?
But yeah, it was the first time that I remember
is, yeah, when Tamara died in a car crash.
Let's make some noise.
Let me just tell you something.
And I'm going to tell you something that no one wants to tell you.
Rough Riders.
Hmm.
Rockefeller.
Rockefeller.
I don't even remember any other crews.
But I don't even know if I'm a part of this crew.
But the fact when Cash Money got back together, that was the best thing we've ever seen in hip hop.
Oh, yeah.
You got to remember, we seen when y'all was at the top.
Nah, big face, big face.
And then we seen y'all lose.
I mean, y'all do it.
Y'all go down.
And then we had the Turk thing.
And Turk said that y'all was wearing fake watches.
I didn't know what the fuck he was talking about.
Did you saw that?
Man, yeah, I seen it, man. But we ain't even going to eat much. y'all was wearing fake watches. I didn't know what the fuck he was talking about. Did you, did you, you saw that? Cause I,
man,
yeah,
I seen it,
man.
But we ain't even gonna eat
much.
We ain't gonna eat much.
Cause we,
let's stay positive.
Yeah,
nah.
Let me just tell you,
let me just tell you something.
I'm gonna just tell you something.
As an outsider looking in,
as an insider looking out.
Right,
right.
When y'all got this shit together,
we all,
all industry motherfuckers
is looking like, damn. Nah. We wish we could be y'all got this shit together, we all, all industry motherfuckers is looking like, damn.
We wish we could be y'all.
Oh, yeah.
Real shit. Come on.
You don't think rock writers wish that?
You don't think rock and roll?
Oh, this bird right here.
Let's go, goddamn it.
What's up, what's up, bitch?
What's wrong, bro?
Man, I'm live on Trinket.
Hey, tell Norman that my son was there.
Oh, nah, he could hear you.
You know how I love you, bro?
You know how I love you, bro, man?
Come on, bro.
You know, me and you got a different relationship.
We good.
Real talk.
That's right.
Oh, shit.
Yo, you know, we giving BG his flowers tremendously.
He needs it.
He has to have it.
That's right.
I'm not gangster.
He did it the right way, son.
We got him. All right, my brother. My brother. My brother. Hey, hey, hey. I'm going gangster. He did it the right way, son. We got him.
All right, my brother.
My brother.
My brother.
Hey, hey.
Okay.
I'm going to hit you as soon as I finish, bro.
All right, look.
All right.
So I just want to be honest
because you're living in the moment
that you might not understand
that you're living in.
Y'all doing the most historical shit.
That tour that y'all doing right now.
Yeah.
What are y'all living in right now?
After all these years later?
Nah, man.
I ain't even going to lie, bro.
It's the most historical shit.
Yeah, nah.
It really, I mean, it's humbling, you know what I mean, to me, right?
You know what I mean?
But it just really, because for real, for real, when I got that 14-year sentence, bro, I thought it was over for me.
14 years.
You know what I'm saying?
Them people gave me 14 years, 168 months.
You know what I mean?
And, you know, when they gave me all that time, bro, I really thought it was over with.
Like, I thought they closed the curtains on me.
You know what I mean?
Like, you know it's hard to remain relevant in this rap thing, you know, for a month.
And who was the rappers that reached out to you?
Boosie?
Yeah, Boosie held me down, man.
Walked me all the way to the door, T.I.
You know what I mean?
Like, my man, Maino, you know what I mean like my man may know you know what i'm saying
bird man you know what i mean but man absolutely that's my brother man
man we go all the way back yeah man like like but but for real for real i couldn't see that
fault you heard me you know what i mean like i i i i really couldn't see that fault. You know what I mean? Like, I really couldn't see that fault, man.
And it took, you know, maybe like five, you know, six years into my sentence.
To the bed.
You know, that I started feeling like, damn, man, like, you know, I might got another shot at it.
You could see that.
Yeah, I thought you could kind of, once you get over the hump, you know, you could pretty much, you know, see the end and know how you're going to walk it down.
You know, with social media and Instagram and, you know, all the different platforms that's out here now, you know, that you could just stay active on.
Stay connected, right.
Stay connected and remain relevant.
Was you recording music in there?
You know what I mean? Or no?
Nah, man.
Bob's Cartel recorded music.
You see all these people recording music now?
Man, them people pulled me up when I first
got in there and told me
that if I get caught
rapping on the phone
or doing anything,
you know what I'm saying? They was with me
on 23 and 1. You know what I'm saying? And they was with me on 23 and 1.
You know what I'm saying?
No way.
Like, period.
Oh, they were all you.
Man, them people was on me out the gate.
Yeah, I could see that.
I could see that.
I could see that.
Like, they wasn't having it.
You know what I mean?
And, you know, I done been caught, you know,
with knives and cell phones and, you know, different shit.
But I never tried them like that.
You know what I mean?
Because I already knew, you know, and the phase like that. You know what I mean? Because I already knew
and the
feds is different. You know what I mean?
Like anything that... Oh, you was in the feds, not the state.
Nah, yeah, I was in the feds.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if it's anything
you know that
you can make money off of
or you know you could...
Man, the feds don't play like that.
Yeah, they'll attack more shit on you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
they'll book your ass.
You know what I'm saying?
Like,
like,
they ain't going for it,
you know what I mean?
So,
you know,
but,
but,
but,
but like I was saying,
man,
in the beginning,
I was a little bitter.
You know,
I was,
I was,
I was,
I was hurt.
Let me ask you,
why was you bitter?
Because I felt like I was over-sentenced.
Yeah, you thought it was good. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah over-sentenced. Yeah, you thought it was a good thing.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, from the sentence.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, I just felt like I was over-sentenced.
Yeah, man, because, you know, I done seen, you know, T.I. get a year and a day,
and, you know, Gucci get three years, and, you know, Beanie, you know, got a year and a day.
Like, all these dudes had the same you like what the case i had
like gun charge you know what i mean and they got you know these slaps on the wrist even we
got a year even we got a year and a day in new york it was state but it was a year and a day
so i'm like shit i'm a rapper too let me get the rapper deal let me get the rapper deal, man. You know what I mean?
Man, that is crazy.
That's true what you're saying.
That must have been crazy to hear that sentence.
Man, I'm talking about, man, they smacked me over the head, man.
You hear me?
With the homie, the clown, you know.
You hear me? You know what I'm saying?
Like, homie don't play that.
You hear me?
What you don't know, in case you don't know, I'm going to be honest with you.
You have probably the most support on the streets.
You probably didn't see it.
Your people probably saw it.
Yeah.
Your people saw it, but you probably didn't want to hear it.
They was probably calling you like, they got your back on the streets.
Yeah, nah, nah, nah, facts, facts.
Nah, I was seeing it.
I was hearing about it.
You know what I'm saying?
And I was feeling it. Brian ain't going to lie, facts. I was seeing it. I was hearing about it. You know what I'm saying? And I was feeling it.
Brian ain't going to lie, bro.
The fans, like, man, the fans was incredible on my bed, man.
You know what I mean?
Like, I used to get hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of letters, you know what I mean, from fans just telling me, you know, keep your head up.
You know we with you.
You know, stay focused.
We can't wait till you get home,
like, you know, sending me cards, pictures, and like, like, that's, that, that alone, you know,
kept me motivated, you know what I mean, I used to get more love from fans than motherfuckers that,
you know, I knew on the streets, you know what I mean, like, the, the, the fans was,
was so supportive, so I'ma always, you know, just appreciate the fans and just have love for them.
You know, for the love that they had for me during my period, man.
Well, let me just tell you something.
We've been doing this for nine years, right?
Nine years.
Going into our 10th year.
And I know the algorithms.
And when I just tweeted out, we got BG.
Let me just tell you something.
Let up.
Your fans is serious.
I'm just being honest.
I might have to erase the tweet.
I said, this is too much.
This is too much.
And I had to call y'all.
I had to call y'all.
I was like, listen, I might miss my flight.
And then they was like, we're here for you, Norby. I said, fuck, I'm making my flight. I Listen, I might miss my flight. And then they was like, we're here for you, Noria.
I said, fuck, I'm making my flight.
I said, I'm making my flight.
I made it.
Listen, anybody else, I would have probably been like, you know what I mean?
100% he would have.
I would have.
I would have missed it.
Yeah, I would have been like, man, fuck that.
But you know what?
This is 1 million percent something.
I'm going to be honest with you, bro.
You really deserve your flowers.
Man, nah, man.
Not just here, but in real life.
Yeah, nah, thanks.
I done put my work in, bro.
You hear me?
I done put my work in, man.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
And I ain't finished.
You hear me?
You know what I'm saying?
I got a lot more, you know what I'm saying, to contribute, man, to the culture,
man. So, you know, I'm just glad, man,
that I'm free. You know that I got
another shot at it, man.
And, yeah, man,
I'm a rep, man. I'm a rep, man.
For the real, man. So let me ask you, Birdman
was not asleep on stage. Nah,
hell nah. Nah, nah, nah.
They said he was reading some... Yeah, nah.
Alright, so you, come on, bro. You didn't do the Rain of Days.
Yeah, I did a lot of them.
So you know when.
The set list, right?
When they had a set list taped, you know, to the floor and the list of songs and, you know, what's coming up next.
You know what I'm saying?
He's reading, seeing what's coming up next.
He just got caught from a bad angle. You know what I'm saying? He got caught
from a bad angle
and then I pull up
on some,
you know,
just,
you know,
hyping him.
No,
hyping him,
you know,
on some wipe me down,
you know,
just on some,
you know what I'm saying?
It looks like you
pushed him out the way.
It looks funny,
but nah,
Ron wasn't sleep,
bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Like,
Ron ain't never did
a hard drug ever, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, Ron ain't never did a hard drug ever, man
You know what I'm saying?
He used to be on us
I done seen shit on the internet
About him being on fentanyl
And him being on this
And being on that, bro
And we had a good laugh about it
Like, we jostled off it
You know what I'm saying?
I jostled off him
Like, we jostled off each other
But yeah, nah, he was reading the song list
Okay, because you know what? I'm going to we just love each other. But yeah, nah, he was reading the song list. Okay, because you know what?
I'm going to be honest with you.
It looked like it was finally y'all time to be the big homies.
That's what it looked like.
It looked like Lil Wayne was like, let's go, nigga.
That's what it looked like.
I'm like, I'm sorry.
I don't look in that hand.
So I'm looking like.
And this ain't me
Just trying to clean it up
I'm just being 100% real with it, man
He was reading the song list, man
You know what I mean?
Because I have to gaze down there at times
Because it's still probably an hour
Damn near two hours for real
You know what I'm saying?
We got the first Cash Money set
Bam, then Wayne come out
Then bam, then Wayne bring us back out, you know, for the
hot boy set, you know what I mean? So
it's, it's, you know
what I'm saying? By the time, it's probably like a
two-hour set, you know what I mean? So
you know, it's, it's, yeah,
man, like, like, and, and motherfuckers
just be trying to make sure I know what's coming up
next, you know what I'm saying? So I got to be on point.
Yeah, so you look at, I know that.
Yeah, nah, facts. I know that, because I be like that, too. You know what I mean? Yeah, big gotta be on point yeah so you look and i think yeah yeah i know that because i'll be like that too you know what i mean yeah it's a big fact you know
when you look at this and they got a teleprompter right that's what they got the teleprompter yes
but then you got the list you know i'm saying tape to the floor so it's like five sheets
with all the song with probably about 10 songs on each, you know what I'm saying, sheet.
And you know,
Ron just got caught up reading the list, bro.
And it just looked like,
and they cut that out.
I like how you keep calling it Ron.
I like how you keep calling it Ron.
You know I'm catching on.
That probably was some shit.
You know what I'm saying?
So, nah, but it's all great with old man.
He ain't about nothing, man.
Like, you know, he ain't tripping.
He like, man, all press is good press.
We ain't tripping.
It's hilarious.
The arena's still selling out.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
And we going to keep getting this bag, and it is what it is.
Let's make some noise for that.
All right.
So we're going to play a game.
You want to explain the rules?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're going to bring a... Who's drinking over here?
Okay, because he's not drinking.
Nah, I got this little Kool-Aid right here.
So who is your designated drinker?
You've got to have somebody from New Orleans.
Designated drinker from the end.
Oh, damn, bro.
None of my niggas drink.
Or Sonny D will happily eat.
Who you want? Oh, you want?
Oh, man.
Big Boobie Black.
Come on.
Big Boobie Black.
Big Boobie Black.
BWA's Chapa City.
Chapa City?
Yeah.
Chapa City.
And Charlie just want to drink.
He love BJ's.
Charlie?
Let's go.
He love Magnolia Gangsta right still, man.
Yes.
You heard me.
Big specs.
Big specs.
All right.
I'm not going to lie to you.
Me going to Magnolia might have been the illest thing I've ever witnessed.
Bro, this is a Magnolia legend right here.
I've never seen a hood like Magnolia.
Magnolia is a different place.
He went to the old Magnolia, too.
They call it the middle of the world.
They call it what?
The middle of the world.
The middle of the world.
I agree.
No, I went to the 1998 Magnolia.
I went to the 97.
When the bricks was up.
When the bricks was up.
I was there like this.
And then I went to where? Where's he murder from? The Cal up. I was dead like this. And then I went to, where's the murder from?
The Calio.
I went to the Calio, and I said, why are you living here?
Okay, so you're going to drink.
I'm going to drink?
Yeah.
Okay.
He good, he good.
Okay.
All right, so we ready?
Who got the questions?
All right, so we're going to give you two choices.
Okay. If you pick one, we not drinking, but we're going to give you two choices. Okay.
If you pick one, we're not drinking.
But if you don't pick, we're drinking.
This is a horrible first question.
So this is for me or him?
It's for you.
All right, so I go.
He's a designated drinker.
Oh, so he did that.
All right.
All right.
So we're giving you two names.
If you pick one, we're not drinking.
All right, all right.
If you say both of them, then neither.
But you know, we want stories. It's really about bringing up any stories you got. All right, Ben neither. You know, we want stories.
It's really about bringing up any stories.
Let's get it.
I pick one we drink.
Tell us a story
if you have one with them.
If you pick, we're not drinking, though.
I'm going to ask the first one because
I definitely...
Let me just
say it, and then I'll say it.
I bet.
Soldier Slim or Tupac?
Soldier Slim.
I definitely want a Soldier Slim story.
Soldier Slim.
Okay.
Soldier Slim.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, at the end of the day, man, you know, Soldier Slim like our New Orleans Tupac, man.
You know what I mean?
That is the New Orleans Tupac.
You know, now, big facts, like, you know, one of the realest niggas that ever done it, you know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know, when it come down to, I got a million, you know what I'm saying?
So just some stories, man.
But, you know what I mean?
Wasn't he supposed to do an album together?
He did an album together.
Okay, okay.
But it ended up getting leaked, man.
You know what I mean?
Like, folks also, it was unofficial when it came out.
Man, we had just finished recording it, man.
And when he got killed, it was in his Cadillac truck, right?
You know what I mean?
The album was in his Cadillac truck?
Yeah, he was listening to it.
It was on the disc.
You know, back then we had CDs or whatever.
You know what I'm saying?
So the disc was literally in his CD player, right?
So when he jumped out the truck, he left the car door open.
And the truck ended up being part of the crime
scene. So they ended up throwing
his truck to the motherfucking
pound, you know,
to the police, whatever.
And, you know, somebody from there
stole a disc, you know,
out the front. So the disc wound up being evidence.
And now that, man, whoever
stole the truck out the police pound ended up leaking it, bro.
And next thing you know, that bitch just sprayed it like wildfire, man.
That's crazy.
And fucked our whole bag up.
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You know what I mean?
Fuck.
Yeah, man.
I was about to make some noise for that,
but then I thought about it.
No, no, that's not me.
Nah, but it's cool, though,
because a lot of people don't know,
we still got some,
we still got a,
because I'm going to go back in there
and retouch that joint up a little bit,
and then there's some unreleased songs,
you know, that we have,
so I'm going to still put out a BGN Soldier Slim album,
you know, somewhere in the near future, man.
That's a fact.
And would that be on Choppa City Records?
Or would that be on?
That would be on Cutthroat.
You know what I'm saying?
Because, you know, his mama, Lil Soulja Sam,
you know, Lil Peaches, you know,
they still running Cutthroat Committee.
So it would definitely be a joint project.
You know what I'm saying?
Yo, yo.
A lot of y'all
ain't understanding what he just said.
He's making sure.
He's taking care.
Yeah.
This is why I love this.
There ain't a lot of niggas. Listen.
Trust me.
I'm taking a shot.
Juvenile Wayne.
Take a shot. I'm taking the shot. Juvenile Wayne. Take a shot.
Hey, don't need the witness.
I'm saying, but
Juvenile said it still, man. We easy to
go, man. So both, we drinking.
Nah, facts.
We still drinking.
No, no. He said both. We drinking.
Jay-Z or DMX?
DMX.
Okay. Tell us why. Oh, man, bro. DMX. Okay, tell us why.
Oh, man, bro.
DMX is different, bro.
That raw, you know.
And you was on tour with him.
And on tour with Jay-Z, too.
That tour is insane. You know, DMX just remind me of me, bro.
Because, you know, it's crazy.
I could have easily been DMX story.
You know what I mean?
Like, you know, I didn't OD before.
You know, woke up in the hospital.
You know, tubes all in me and the whole nine yards.
But, you know, I mean, I relate to Jay-Z 100%.
But, man, X just, bro, he had the whole world barking.
Woo!
Woo!
You know what I'm saying?
I'm like, X just, whole world balking. Woo! Woo! You know what I'm saying? I agree.
X just got a...
You can feel his pain through the music.
Yeah, nah, you can feel the pain through the music.
You know what I mean?
Like, yeah, bro, I'm going to go X, bro.
And there's no shade to J.
I love shade.
Like, I'm a super J fan, but I'm going to go X, bro.
I got to go X.
And what date you was born?
September?
September 3rd, 1980.
Okay.
My 80s, baby.
And guess what date Soulja Slim was born?
September 9th.
Guess what date I'm born?
September 6th.
Big Virgo vibes.
Big Virgo vibes, nigga.
So you're the third, I'm the sixth
and this nigga's the ninth
we gotta do a burger party
oh a big party
I wasn't ready for that
I'm wearing a burger party
in New Orleans
let's go
let's get it
let's get it
let's get it
let's get it
let's get it
I'm just looking like
you know bring out
the Spanish community
that's right
you know bring out
the Latino community you know bring out the Spanish community That's right You know I'll bring out The Latino community
Come on bro
You know I'll bring out
The Latino community
I got you
I got you
Let's get it
Let's get it
We locked in
Locked it in
We locked in for
Verbal party
No ring
No shizzle
It's official
And that's what it is
Now I'm hype
Now I'm hype
I'm starting to sweat
Shit's coming out
I mean
Yeah Yeah Yeah Y'all shouldn't even Have done this one And that's what it is. Now I'm hyped. Now I'm hyped. I'm starting to sweat. Shit's coming at me. But good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Y'all shouldn't even have done this one.
Okay, my bad.
What is this?
Birdman or Master P?
Birdman.
Come on.
Birdman.
Birdman.
Birdman.
Birdman.
Birdman.
Birdman.
Birdman.
Birdman.
Birdman.
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Birdman.
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Birdman.
Birdman.
Birdman.
Birdman.
Birdman.
Birdman.
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Birdman.
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Birdman.
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Birdman.
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Birdman.
Birdman.
Birdman.
Birdman.
Birdman.
Birdman.
Birdman.
Birdman. Birdman. Birdman. Birdman. Birdman. Birdman. You know what I mean? It's a Dominican and Colombian.
Turk or sea murder?
Ah, I got to go with the Brody T. game, man.
You know what I mean?
I like that. I like that.
That's the wrong team, man.
You know what I mean?
I love the loyalty.
Man, free sea murder, man.
You know what I mean?
Big facts.
I love, I love.
Yeah, loyalty, man. Yeah. Big fags. I'm like, I love, I love big fags.
Y'all loyalty, man.
I love that it got shaky for a second,
but I love the fact that
y'all all picked it up together
and said, you know what?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's beautiful.
That's beautiful.
Go ahead.
I'm sorry.
Let's get it.
Fiend or currency?
Oh, man.
Damn.
And you look,
you can take a shot
just in case
That's why he here
Just let me know
What you want to do
I got your back
You heard me
I got your back baby
He's like
Please just drink
Nah for real
Cause I'm a
I'm a
I'm a
I'm a
I'm a
I'm a fiend fan
And I'm a currency fan Like like both of them my bros.
You hear me?
You a new all this nigga.
Let's just be clear.
Damn, bro, that's crazy.
I'll take a shot for you.
I'll take a shot for you.
This ain't cool.
You're like a Brooklyn nigga.
This is Brooklyn niggas can't choose.
Man, I got to go fiend, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
I got to go fiend, man.
You can't reverse that shot.
Me and fiend go way back like jumping jacks.
Right, right, right.
And he was also on No Limit. Yeah, facts. hey, me and Fiend go way back like jumping jacks. Right, right, right. And he was also on No Limit.
Yeah, facts.
Okay, facts, facts.
Cumbersy was on Cash Money.
Right, right.
You know what I'm saying?
Big facts, man.
Both of them the bros, man.
Me and Cumbersy, me and Fiend just rapped.
Matter of fact, Fiend on my new album, Freedom of Speech.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
We just rapped a video together about two weeks ago.
And me and Cumbersy, you know what I'm saying?
We just rapped a video about a month or two ago. you know what I'm saying? We just wrapped a video about a
month or two ago, you know what I mean?
Man, both of them are my bros. I love them bro.
Man, they bro for all the motherfuckers.
You know what I'm saying?
So I got to ask. This is for me.
As a New Yorker,
we thought that
you can't be cool with No Limit
and Cash money.
That's what we thought.
No, I'm just being honest, right?
What's wrong?
I mean, there might have been a time that that could be true, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There was a time.
It wasn't straight.
It was at one point.
It was a time where you definitely had to pick a side, right?
You know what I mean?
Especially in the city, right?
You know what I mean?
Because there was a lot of street politics involved.
You know what I mean? Especially in the city, right? You know what I mean? Because there was a lot of street politics involved. You know what I'm saying?
It was, you know, because, you know, they had an entourage of, you know, super goons and super killers around them.
And, you know, we had an entourage of super goons and super killers around us.
They really, you know.
That sounds like a super problem.
No, no, no.
I know exactly what you mean.
It makes sense. I know exactly what you mean.
It makes sense.
And, you know,
and it was real street beef involved.
Like, you know, where it was, you know,
bloodshed. Like, you know,
like, during the,
you know, the mid-90s and
you know, all that. So,
you know, that shit
could have got dangerous. Like, that shit was, you know, all that. So, you know, that shit could have got dangerous.
Like, that shit was, you know, dangerous.
So we kind of, you know, yeah, man.
Yeah.
So, I mean, at that time, could you not work with a No Limit artist?
I mean, no, we wasn't.
I mean, yeah, back then in the beginning I way and what an anyone
does you know say like even though you know we had our relationships you know
me like I said yeah we had our relationship on the side but just you
know just you know me I mean I think you know you know baby got a big Super Eagle
you know P got a big Super Eagle you know what I mean? And, you know, even if we wanted to work together, them niggas
wouldn't have cleared that shit.
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
You know what I mean?
I'm just keeping it all the way real.
I interviewed Baby, and I
interviewed Master P, and they answered
the same.
They're like, not really.
Nah, it wasn't.
But now, though, it's more, you know, a friendlier vibe.
Niggas didn't grow up.
You know, niggas didn't evolve.
Like, you know, niggas on some, you know, just some grown-up shit.
Like, and, yeah, it's a whole different vibe now.
But back then, no, it wasn't safe.
It wasn't, yeah, nah, it wasn't the way it was.
So let me ask you a personal question.
Would you have wanted to change that back then?
Like, if there was a person you wanted to work with?
It was Soldier Slim, Mac, Mirax.
Yeah, man.
Mr. Gould?
Soldier Slim, Mac, Mirax.
You know, I fuck with Mr. Gical, you know what I'm saying?
But Soldier Slim, Mac, and Mia X?
Mia X is a fucking juice.
Yeah, that would have been the top three, you know what I mean, that I would have wanted to work with.
And you couldn't at that time.
And, yeah, no, we wasn't even.
You know what I mean?
Y'all wasn't crossing the line.
Yeah, nah, it wasn't even a thought in nobody's head. Like, it wasn't happening. It wasn't even what he said it's his face his face
what you want me to do
that's real that's not for real that's loyalty though i'm gonna be honest with you um
i worked with cash money very early on. Big fix.
And y'all all
came to the studio together
and y'all all left the studio
together. Nah, you're one
move off.
I respected that. And I'm going to be honest with you.
It's the first time I
realized that you could put five
pieces of pork on pizza.
These niggas had ham, bacon.
They had all the time.
I was like, damn, how can you fit all that in a pizza?
They call that motherfucker the meatloaf, you know?
And I'm looking at Fabulous, and Fabulous is like,
yo, man, Lil Wayne came to my studio session
And he
He did a hundred
A hundred thousand dollars worth of bottles
And he left
I was like
Damn nigga
He ain't do that to me
But them niggas
Them niggas
They own a lot of pork in my building
But
What a side note
No Okay Come on Let's go to the next one Let's go to the next one Get it What a side note.
Okay, come on.
Let's go to the next one.
Let's go to the next one.
Get it.
400 Degrees or the Carter.
Man, why you going to trap me? Yeah, we trying to get your homie drunk.
We don't know.
We trying to get your homie drunk.
Hey, both of them Joneses, classy.
Let me take this one.
Let me take mine.
Let me take one.
Don't answer that one, let me go to the next one, bro.
Hey, hey.
I got you, baby.
Nah, that was, hey, hey, hey.
This thing still wouldn't answer.
This thing like, why is it?
I'm thinking about it.
You focus.
Go ahead.
I'm still answering.
But I'm just like, damn.
Bro, like, bro, that's a whole pillar swelling right there.
But you ain't got an answer.
You're here.
I ain't got an answer.
That's very difficult.
Yeah, nah, be quick, man.
Come on.
You had the next one.
Let's go.
Jada Kiss or Nas?
Jada Kiss, man.
Kiss, man.
Kiss.
That kiss in my top five did a lot, man.
Okay.
I'm taking a shot for that.
You know what I mean?
I'm not supposed to, right?
Man, kiss in my top five did a lot.
Tell me who I do whatever I want.
That's a fact.
Hey, who been fucking with Kiss?
Man, what nigga, man.
What?
Real shit.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, Kiss.
Kiss, one of the hardest niggas.
I just want to get this nigga drunk again.
Come on.
He ready.
Let's go.
He want to get drunk.
He's like, it could be nothing against nothing.
He's like, BG, you picking too much.
You're picking too much.
He want to get drunk.
Come on.
That mean I'm getting them right or something when y'all ain't got to whop that joke?
When I whop that joke, you ain't got to say nothing.
All right, all right, all right, all right.
You're taking a foot.
You're taking a foot, yo.
Because you know Larry and him, they from the gang.
You ain't hearing no shit.
He's ready.
I'm ready with him.
Let's go.
Mia X or Shauna?
Mia X.
Oh, yeah.
We need Mia X, man.
Yeah, no, no.
We need the legend.
But Mia X is a legend, man.
Super legend.
She's a lyrical beast.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I'm talking about she come up in that, you know, that Missy, you know, or Eve.
You know, that whole era right there of females
when they was really, you heard me?
When they was really rapping.
You know what I'm saying?
When they was really, yeah, nah, man.
Yeah, that's the truth, man.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I fuck with me.
I fuck with me.
That's why I love this.
He know his hip hop.
Of course.
He know his hip hop.
He's exactly correct.
Here, continue.
Rough Riders or Rockefeller?
Y'all was on a tour with them both.
Be very careful because your man want to drink.
And I want to drink too.
Don't do it.
Think about it.
The whole New York is watching this.
Please.
Please be careful.
Come on.
The United States.
Come on, man.
Rest in peace, X.
I got to go with. I got to go with Rough Riders. I love this. I love this. You know what I'm saying? Come on, man. Rest in peace, X. I got to go with the Rattas.
I love this.
I love this.
You know what I'm saying?
Come on, y'all.
Come on, y'all.
Rest in peace, X, man.
Rest in peace, X, man.
So we should drink for X.
We should drink for X.
Big facts.
Big facts.
Big facts.
Big facts.
And you was on tour with X.
Yeah, absolutely, man.
Like, Cash Money, Ruff Rattas tour with me. You know, Juvie, Weezy. You know, Hot Yeah, absolutely, man. Like, Cash Money Rough Riders tour with me, you know,
Juvie, Weezy, you know,
Hot Boys, Big Timers, DMX,
Eve, The Lox, Dragon,
Swiss. No, that was a crazy tour.
I'm talking about two dates
that I do. No, I'm talking about when I
say, you know,
we, we, we, we, I think,
I think we started off
in, in, in, in New York and ended in Cali.
We cross country that joint.
And when I tell you, that was one of the best tours that I've ever been on.
That's one of the best hip hop tours in ever.
Big thanks.
Cash Money, Rough Rider, Rockefeller Tour.
It was one of the best hip hop tours in life.
I think I only did two dates. I don't even think
they actually
invited me.
I think I just showed up.
I think it was one of those.
And then when they realized it, it was like,
you're not invited back.
This nigga's funny, man.
There's no offense to it.
I feel like I was like, dad.
But dad.
Because they're like, nigga, we already got enough hood niggas here.
Hey, hey, that's young.
I ain't going to lie, though.
That's young.
That's young.
That shit was.
That shit was.
I think Ja Rule was on a few dates.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Me and Ja Rule.
Me.
Benzino, me.
You know what I'm saying?
Was on a few dates.
You on point.
You on point You on point
Listen
I only made two dates
I was so evil
I was like
I can't get invited
And they said no
Because
I mean
I'm going to be honest
That was ill
Cash money
Let me give cash money
They motherfucking props
They motherfucking
Came out and destroyed
And at this time
People did not understand
What the south was
Yeah nah facts
They did not understand
And
These motherfuckers came out
We knew what it was in the south
Yeah nah
Cause it was
It was
I'm just saying,
you have like all the people
that go to the South,
nigga,
they're awake
because they're in the United States.
Because no,
it was true,
it was true.
For real though,
we had to go back
because it was certain cities
where,
you know,
the rock,
you know what I'm saying,
closed out.
It closed out.
And then it was certain cities,
Rough Riders.
We had to close out
because they couldn't
come behind us.
the Midwest,
the South. That's what was genius about that tour. couldn't come behind us. The Midwest, the South.
That's what was genius about that tour. You know, that East Coast side,
that whole, you know, that
you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah. And I didn't even
understand all that back then.
You know, motherfuckers want to go first.
Motherfuckers want to go last.
Motherfuckers want to go out.
Let me just perform,
the money ain't gonna change,
give me the time,
I'm up there,
you'ma knock this shit out,
we outta here,
you know what I'm saying,
but,
yeah,
nah,
man,
man,
you know,
cause they had an incredible show,
you know,
we had an incredible show,
you know what I'm saying,
you know what I'm saying,
we pull out the helicopters,
you know what I'm saying,
and you know,
the whole,
busting out the road,
you know what I'm saying, and then X, you know, I'm saying? And, you know, the whole busting out the road, you know what I'm saying?
And then X, you know,
coming out in the motherfucking cage.
You being humble,
you being humble,
but I'm not going to be humble for you.
And, and, and.
That was one of the best hip hop tours
ever.
Nah.
Ever.
Just being humble.
Nah, nah.
I fuck with you, but.
Thanks.
I fuck with you
in the most beautiful way ever because you're being humble.
And I respect that.
Nah, it's so dope, man.
But that's the best hip hop.
That's one of the best hip hop doors ever.
Nah, nah, nah.
It was super dope, bro.
I beg to be back on that show.
It was super dope, man.
I ain't never been.
That's one of the highlights of my career, for real.
I only was on three dates, and one of the highlights of my career for real. Like, I only was on three dates
and it's a highlight of my career.
So,
okay,
good,
next one.
Let's see what we got here.
Mack or Mr. Servant?
Mack!
Fuck is you talking about?
You know what I mean?
You know what I'm saying?
Shell Shock is a classic.
You know what I'm saying?
Like,
Mack,
Mack is like our Nas.
You know what I mean?
Like, man, ain't nobody.
Man, lyrically.
Like, lyrically.
Like, man, that nigga Mac.
Man, you ever listen to Shellshock?
Or any of his, like, man, Mac is one of the best lyricists.
Like, I'm talking about Mac.
I don't give a fuck.
Mm-hmm.
Period.
We ain't got a Silk of the Shocker question in there?
You got in there? You know Silk of the Shocker
beat me in every category
ever in the Social Wars.
And he reminds us
every time.
I tell him that too
every time I see
Silk of the Shocker.
Nigga beat me
in every category.
Oh yeah.
When you hear this what?
1998.
The best year of my life.
How the fuck Silk of the Shockaka Bibi in every category?
They tell you why.
Nigga, I still got beef with Benzino to this day.
I just argue with him for no reason.
Nigga, you laugh.
Chaka Bibi.
I'm sorry.
I'm going crazy.
Go ahead.
Manny Fresh or KLC?
Manny Fresh.
I'm answering that.
And I'm going to take a shot for that.
I ain't going to lie, though, bro.
That's a drop.
You heard me?
He said both.
Let's drink to that.
Yeah, we drink to that.
You know what I'm saying?
Let's drink to that.
You ain't even got to ask it.
You ain't got to ask it.
It's a drop.
Okay, my bad.
I ain't even about to go there.
I got your back, bro.
You heard me?
That's a drop.
You know what I'm saying? My bad. Yeah, man. You know, I ain't even about to go there. I got your back, girl. You hear me? That's a drop.
You hear me?
My bad.
Yeah, man.
You know, I love Fresh to death, man.
Fresh created my sound.
You know, he, he, he, you know, I never rapped on another beat outside of Man It Fresh till
like I was on my sixth solo album.
You know what I mean?
Like Man It Fresh produced every song that I ever recorded on from, you know,
True Story, Chava City, it's all on you, Volume 1, all on you, Volume 2.
You know, Chava City, the ghetto, Checkmate, you know.
And when I left Cash Money, that's when I started, you know,
working with other producers and, you know, vibing with other producers
and, you know, just getting on other sounds and vibing with other producers and just getting on other
sounds and just whatever, whatever.
So Fresh is near and dear to my heart.
I love him and everything that he done for me.
My biggest records, you know what I mean, is his many Fresh records, you know what I
mean? It's Manning Fresh Records, you know what I mean? But,
man, KLC is a legend too in our city, man. And KLC then created some hot-ass records
for me too, like the Don't Talk To Me. And I love both of them, bro. They both my brothers,
man. So, you know, I'm just going for it.
I'm going to take another shot for that.
That's just it.
That's it.
Go for it, man.
I already took a shot.
Look, I got 30 motherfuckers over here.
I'm going to take a shot for that.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
I'm good.
I got you, bro.
We going to vibe tonight.
Yeah, man.
Let's get it.
All right.
Get it how you live or guerrilla warfare?
Guerrilla warfare.
Hands down.
Guerrilla warfare, man.
Hands down, man.
You know what I mean?
Like, you know, get it how you live.
You know, that was, you know, that's...
That's the Hot Boys album, right?
That's the first Hot Boys album.
Okay.
And then guerrilla warfare is, you know, the second Hot Boys album.
But that guerr Warfare different.
You know what I mean? Don't get me wrong, get it how you live, hot, and that's your
jamming, but you could pop that Gorilla Warfare and just let them-
It looks like y'all were partners there.
Nah, we had all found our swag, found our flow, found our vibe.
Like, yeah, that guerrilla warfare, him.
Mm-hmm.
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Yeah, because I have so much more.
Go, man, go.
No, you know why?
Because you know why?
Actually, looking from outside or looking in, I got to see, from outside or looking in. I got to see, from outside, I'm looking in.
I got to see y'all grow.
And I got to see y'all grow individually.
Right, right, right.
To tell you the truth, being honest, I love Wayne.
I didn't see Wayne being a superstar at that time.
Yeah, nah, facts.
A lot of people feel that way. I didn't see that. a superstar at that time. Yeah, nah, facts. A lot of people feel that way.
I didn't see that.
He was a little kid.
Like, he was a little baby.
I'm not saying he wasn't a superstar.
But he was.
Yeah.
And, you know, just to do what he was able to do without the cursing and, you know, to keep up with us is, you know,
you know, Drew was a little older than, you know what I'm saying, all of us.
You know what I mean?
And, you know, I was a little mad child.
He had a mean face.
You know what I mean?
But, you know, Wayne was really the little broski, man.
Like, you know, we did everything we could to, you know, just protect him and keep him.
But, you know, he was right there just, you know, witnessing it all.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, I was out there wild and doing this, doing that,
you know what I mean?
Like, but, man, that was, you know what I'm saying?
So, you know, he got to see it, you know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, and he just was able to just, man, just, you know,
take something from each and every last one of us.
He used to hear so many stories, witness so many events, you know, take something from each and every last one of us. He used to hear so many stories, witness so many events, you know,
be around so much action, you know, at a young age without having to be in.
Like he flipped it creatively.
Yeah.
But let me ask you something.
At one point when he said everyone left, everyone left cash money,
and then he said that he held it down.
How did you feel when he said that?
Because, I mean, you know, when we just, you know, restarted it and, you know, the UNLV days was over, the Slim days was over, the Miss T, you know what I'm saying, all that, and it was just me.
You know what I mean?
And Baby was like, man, here, you know what I'm saying?
You know, we're going to put the label on your back, you know what I mean?
It's your turn, you know what I mean, it's your turn, you know what I mean, and, you know, we, we, we came with the,
and, and, and it used to be a gangster bounce label, like, where it was, you know, you know, bounce records,
you know, mixed with a little gangster shit, but, you know, that, that Chopper City album was, like, the first,
you know, real hip-hop album, you know, on, on, on cash money records, and, and, and, and it took off, you know, the way that it took off.
So, you know, I understand, you know, the pressure, you know, and everything,
you know, that was on his shoulders because I had it on mine, you know, at 16.
Because at one point it was all on you.
It was only me.
You know, the Hot Boys was built around me and you, you know what I mean? But really me like you know the hot boys was built around me yep and and and you know what
i mean but but but really me you know what i mean so yeah man like like like because i was already
yeah yeah i was already four albums in you know what i mean so you know i was well established
you know as a solo artist you know what i mean and then bam we built the hot boys and you know
that deal what it did and then you know juvie you know already you know was a solo but it's just
you know that hot boy shit just really was able to you know showcase us you know as as individual
artists and as a you know solid group and just you know push that
unity you know that
we was you know what I'm saying
pushing at that time
and um
yeah man yeah I
think uh
damn man like
just going but just you know just
thinking back and just reliving
all that it's just like
you guys and every other label was you actually have four albums.
Yeah, yeah.
I think Wayne had like two albums.
I think Julie.
For the High Boys?
No, I did.
Oh, no, not one.
He had one album, right?
He had a mixtape.
Nah, he got nine.
He got his first.
Oh, no. You know, that's crazy. You know what I mean? Wayne was a group. he had a mixtape nah he got nah he got his first oh no
you know
that's
damn
that's crazy
you know
me and Wayne
was a group
called the BGs
you know what I'm saying
the first
the first
the first
BGs album
was
me and Wayne
as a group
you know what I'm saying
and then
you know
God bless the dead
rest in peace
the rabbit
you know when God bless the dead, rest in peace to Rabbit. You know, when, before Rabbit got killed, you know, he ended up, you know, he wanted to invest in Wayne himself.
And, you know, put, you know, Wayne out, you know what I'm saying, himself.
So he ended up, you know, taking Wayne from Cash Money.
And then that's when, when you know Baby and Slim decided
to just drop the Z
and just call me BG.
You know what I mean? So that's where
the BG come from.
You know what I'm saying? Because
me and Wayne started as a group
called the BGs, Baby Gangsters.
You know what I'm saying? And then when Rabbit
ended up getting killed,
Miss C, the... That's baby brother of Rabbit?
Nah, Rabbit, nah, that's
Wayne's stepdad. Okay. That's what
Wayne always talking about in the songs.
You know what I'm saying? Rest in peace, Rabbit.
Yeah, that's his stepdad.
So, once
when Rabbit
got killed, you know, Miss Cedar
ended up, you know, letting
Wayne, you know, come back to the label, and then that's when we, you know, Miss Cedar ended up, you know, letting Wayne you know, come back to the label
and then that's when we, you know,
formed the Hot Boys.
Thanks.
You got more?
Yeah, we got a lot more.
I got a lot more.
Boys in the Hood or Menace to Society?
Ah, fuck, man.
Menace to society.
Hood niggas
always have a problem
with this.
Menace to society.
Hood niggas always have
menace to society.
Well, old dog?
That's old dog?
Bro,
that's what everybody
thought they was old dog.
Everybody want to be old dog.
I want to grow
the little roots
and all that.
I'm trying to grow
right now.
That was funny. I ain't gonna grow right now. That was funny.
I ain't gonna lie though,
like, like, like, like,
like, like,
boys in the hood
got a mean message in it,
you hear me?
And I didn't even really
get the message
until years and years later.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, when I was young,
I didn't even really get
the message that,
that Lawrence Fishburne,
you know,
was pushing about
the regentification,
you know, in the hood.
You know what I mean?
All right, let me stop, man.
Trick Daddy or Rick Ross?
Man, I got to go with Trick, man.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, Trick the mayor, man, of Miami, man, of Florida, period.
Like, for real, for real.
I think Rick Ross would pick Trick.
Like, Trick, you know, did so much,
you know what I'm saying, just for Florida
and just putting, you know what I'm saying,
Florida on the map and just that thug holiday.
Like, you know, he paved the way for niggas like Ross.
You know what I mean?
So I got to go with Trick, man.
This nigga answered that shit correct.
I think even Rick Ross is going to watch this and be like, yep.
He is correct.
Clips or dog pound?
I ain't got nothing to do with this one.
I ain't got shit to do with this one.
Damn, the clips are dog pound, man.
I got to go with my dog corrupting dance.
You know what I'm saying? dog pound, man. I got to go with my dog corrupt and dance.
Know what I'm saying?
Bitch, you got some fine heads for a second.
Bitch, you got some fine heads.
Let's take a shot.
Let's take a shot.
Hey, that DP
man, come on, man.
I even think Clips
will pick dog pound over them. Come on, man. Nah, facts. I even think Clips will pick Dog Power over them.
Come on, man.
Nah, facts.
Man, I fuck with Clips, man.
You know what I'm saying?
But, yeah, man, I got to go with TPC, man.
You got some bomb ass.
Nah, that was my shit.
Hey, I told Des I want the remix of that show.
You know what I mean?
On my mama, I told him that.
You know what I mean?
I got to bring that show back.
Yeah, I ain't going to lie.
Your school be texting me.
You be missing a lot of days.
Damn.
Hold on.
I'm not playing.
Look, this nigga Mr. J.
Look, AGJ, Thursday, 14th.
Your child was missing.
Look, this fucked up that you with me.
That's crazy.
That's how they rocked it.
They texted the nigga now.
You lucky you with me, but in my mind, I'm like, this nigga's fucking up.
But he with me.
So I'm like, damn, am I making him
fuck up?
That's how the school system is. They just go automatic
do it.
I'm looking at this nigga like, yo, man,
why you ain't go to school?
He looking at me back like, I want you.
I am not enjoying this.
Oh, man.
Would you rather be feared or loved? I'm not enjoying this. Oh, man. All right.
Would you rather be feared or loved?
Damn, loved, man.
Make a little match of colors.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, nice face, man.
I'd rather be loved, man.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Rap City or UMTV Raps?
Rap City.
Rap City.
I'd come up in that Rap City era, man.
You know what I'm saying?
Don't get me wrong.
UMTV Raps, I love. You know what I'm saying? Fair, fine, pretty. You know what I'm saying? era, man. You know what I'm saying? Don't get me wrong, UMCV raps, I love, you know what I'm
saying, Fair, Fine, Freddie, you know what I'm saying?
And that whole, you know what I'm saying?
But I was a, I was a, I was a, I was a, you know what I'm
saying, I was a pup, you know what I'm saying?
But I used to watch, you know what I'm saying, UMCV raps
too, but the Rap City, the Basement, all the, you know
what I'm saying, like, yeah, that's my era.
Rap City, Rap City.
I mean, you know what? Scarface or Ice Cube? Excuse me? on the M's and like, yeah, that's my... Yeah, Raph said it. Yeah.
Scarface or Ice Cube?
Excuse me?
Scarface or Ice Cube?
Really?
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
Come on, man.
I know you're going to take this personally. His face.
Okay.
This is the diary.
Like, Mr. Scarface is back.
Like...
Okay, all right, all right.. Like, hold on, hold on.
I love Cube.
Hold on, because I start with Scarface with a diary, too.
And people tell me.
Ghetto Boys.
People tell me I got to start with Ghetto Boys.
I'll go back to Ghetto Boys if you're going to.
Big facts.
Big facts.
Big facts.
Scarface, the diary album, is one of my favorite albums.
It's one of the best albums
Of all time
On my mama
But it was kind of like
A newer generation
It was kind of like a
It was on Def Jam
After he signed the Def Jam
So
Am I wrong?
Yeah nah
I think nah
Nah I think nah
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because my fans would have killed us.
Nah, big facts.
They'd have been like,
you're a bumble.
Yeah, they'd have been behind that.
And the fifth look good album too
on Def Jam.
That's my favorite Scarface album.
Not the Diary.
That was the double, right?
That was the double jump, right?
No, no, no.
I don't think it was a double.
It was one of them
that was a double though.
It was.
Right.
Either after that
or before that. It was after that. It was. Right. Either after that or before that.
It was after that.
It was.
Okay.
What was it?
Come on.
Google it motherfucker.
You got your phone in your hand.
I think it was my homies.
My dad.
My homies.
Yes.
My homies.
The one with him and Pac.
That's the one with him and Pac.
Right.
I think that was the double disc.
That was the double disc.
Yeah.
Nah man.
So you picking Scarface.
Yeah Scarface.
Scarface. One Scarface one of the
Best lyricists
That ever touched him
That's facts
That's facts
You know what I'm saying
And it's over Q
I say that one of the
Best lyricists
No I'm saying over Q
I couldn't say that
I mean
You know I'm a Q fan
Death certificate
America's most wanted
Yeah yeah yeah
Q was going to
Touch this nigga like
Word
You putting out Over Q Over Q You letting him Know Yeah you putting him Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you're going to check this nigga like, word? He's putting that
over Q, right?
Over Q.
He's doing that
because you know
he's got a lot of money.
Yeah, you're putting him
on the spot.
But Face is right there.
Yeah, Face right there.
Come on, man.
Let's Q.
Nah, Face.
And he never got his due
because I think
they look down on him
from being from the South,
but he's one of the best
lyricists in the area.
And I'm talking about like,
when it comes to storytelling,
bro, don't nobody
tell stories like Face.
Ain't a better ghetto story than my mom's playing tricks on me.
There's no better story.
There's no better story.
For real, bro.
Like, to this day, my mom, she playing tricks on me.
Man, nah.
And the video.
The video was sick.
And then you didn't realize, Bushwick Bill, he'll snuff you with a little arm.
Bushwick Bill.
That's hard.
That's hard.
And Willie D's have two hands.
It's hard.
Nah, fake.
Nah, ghetto boys, they really like, you know, it's niggas like us.
They're standing on their shoulders.
Yeah, they paved the way.
Because, you know, you got.
Were they from the third war?
They were from the fifth war.
Fifth war.
They were from Texas.
Texas, yeah. Fifth war, Texas. Yeah, nah, fake. So that's the first time we were from the fifth ward. Fifth ward. Were they from Texas? Texas, yeah.
Fifth ward, Texas.
Yeah, nah, fam.
So that's the first time we heard wards.
Yeah, that's true.
That's the first time we heard wards.
We have more wards.
We have more wards than Texas.
We got more wards than them, yeah.
Okay, they got wards,
but they don't just rep them like that.
Like, they rep, you know what I mean?
Okay, can y'all explain to that, to us,
like people from the East Coast,
what is an actual ward?
A ward is basically...
That's the ghetto? Yeah, absolutely.
It's like a...
I wouldn't say
a county, but
a district. It's a district. You know what I mean?
Yeah, it's the district.
Basically, it's a voting district. This is where you go
to vote. You feel me? But, you know,
us as street niggas, we took it. You hear me, bitch?
We voting over here. This is where we at. I'm from
the third wall. Come your ass over here.
We voting over here. This is where the 17th wall.
You hear me? Voting over here, the 8th wall.
You know what I'm saying? So that's the originality
of it. Right, right. That's the originality.
We took it. We took it.
The streets, you know what I'm saying?
We made it our own.
It's my domain, bitch.
Cause, like, you know Because you got some niggas
rep east side, west side,
north side, south side.
You know what I mean?
In Atlanta, they got zone one,
zone two, zone three, four, five, six.
In New York, we got boroughs.
Y'all got boroughs, exactly.
Everywhere's got counties.
You got Paris.
So zone and Paris is the same thing?
Or no?
No, no, no.
Okay.
I'm asking.
I think a county and a parish is the same thing.
All right, so everywhere is different.
Like, counties.
Like, y'all the only ones got boroughs.
We the only ones got parishes.
But it's actually called a county.
A borough is actually called a county.
That's what I'm saying.
So it's the same exact thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So a parish is a county, basically.
Okay.
Yeah.
I love this shit.
Yeah.
Come on, let's go.
Swiss beats or Timbaland?
Swizzy.
Analog or digital?
Who?
Analog or digital?
Recording, if you were recording.
If I was recording. Did you like it? Analog or digital recording if you were recording if i was recording did you like analog or digital
so analog is more old school like you know what i'm saying and then digital is this new way
i i think i'll go digital okay i'm saying this is more it's more convenient, more easy I'm going to go digital The source of XXL
Shout out to Vanessa
I got the book XXL
White girl Vanessa
Shout out to Vanessa
Shout out to Vanessa
Vanessa said she been rocking with me since day one, man.
She got a big picture swimming home.
She used to ride me when I was in jail and all that, man.
Vanessa, man, that's my homie, man.
I got to go double X it.
Okay.
So who are you?
Mystical or Magic?
Mystical or Magic?
Damn.
I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, lyrically and just, yeah, I got to go mystical.
Yeah.
I love the New Orleans love. I love when you interview a person from New Orleans, it's just like I'm interviewing
a Brooklyn person.
They love other New Orleans.
Let me finish my drink, though.
Was Mystical from New Orleans?
I thought he was from outside of New Orleans.
Mystical from New Orleans.
Kevin Gates or Boosie?
That's a good one.
I drank to it.
You ain't got to answer that.
You ain't got to answer that.
I'm going to drink to that.
Hey, hey, hey.
Let's drink on that.
You feel me?
Y'all ready?
Let's drink on that.
Shout out to Gates.
Shout out to Boosie, man.
Who would he say?
Kevin Gates or Boosie?
Yeah, Boosie.
Okay.
Yeah, we're going to keep that right there.
This is how I'm doing. That's fire.ie. Okay. Yeah, we're going to keep that right there. This is the house, dog.
That's fire.
Definitely.
Listen, man.
Tell us.
Bro, when I first came home, you know, Gator was one of the first dudes to, you know, feature me, you know what I'm saying, on a big record.
That's right.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, shoot a video with me.
You know what I'm saying? Give me a shot. You you know i'm saying like you know shoot a video with me you know what i'm saying give me a shot you know what i'm saying to you know just just just just get back out there you know what i'm saying he pulled up at the video shoot numbs and like you know slapped
20 grand in my hand like man here man welcome home man it's for you you know what i'm saying
it's just awesome.
You know, super, you know what I'm saying?
Like, like, like, like one of the realest niggas, you know what I'm saying?
I love Kevin Gates.
Shout out to my brother Kevin Gates.
Shout out to Gates.
Shout out to Gates.
You know what I'm saying?
And, man, I love Gates, man. And Boosie, man, when I was locked up, you know what I'm saying?
Boo used to, you know, look out for my mama for me up you know i'm saying boo used to you know look out for
my mama for me you know holidays and mother's days and you know whatever i needed or whatever
i called and asked him for you know i'm saying he sent it for me you know i'm saying he used to buy
me cell phones in that johnny you know i'm saying the whole nine yards so we're not picking when
they i can't you're we're not i love both of my brothers we're not picking. I can't. You heard me. I love both of my brothers. We're not picking.
We're drinking.
We're drinking again.
I love both of my brothers. We're drinking again.
This nigga trying to get me drunk for real, bro.
This nigga right here.
Let's drink again.
Let's go.
I told you.
Let's go.
What's the point?
We celebrating.
Let me tell you something.
We celebrating BG.
I really, really, really want to give you flowers, brother.
Thank you, bro.
I appreciate it, bro.
That's love, man.
That's love.
There ain't a lot of real people in this game.
And when I know the real people in this game,
and I can recognize them,
and I can see that they deserve their flowers, I have
to do that. This is what this show is
about. And I spoke
to you, was it you, on the phone?
Oh, that big Alvina.
Let's give it up for Alvina.
You want me from the same place?
I know
you from the same place because
my heart is there with you.
So I know that.
So when I called yesterday, I don't know if you know.
No.
Okay.
I called yesterday and I said, yo, let me tell you something.
There ain't a lot of people.
And then they said, yo, you know, federal parole or whatever, because I think you're still on federal parole.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I still got a few months left.
And I said, fuck that.
I'm dead in my vacation.
Did my brother come
and cut me up?
I don't even know.
I don't even know.
You still on vacation?
My grades was crazy.
I was like, I can't be out here.
I was doing a BG interview with all my grades out here.
I'm sorry.
Let me get my barber.
Yeah.
But again, I promise you, I really sincerely want you to understand how much you mean to the rap game.
Nah, man.
Thank you, bro. to understand how much you how much you mean to the rap game nah man thank you bro and i know you
don't know because sometimes like i'm saying it and you just sitting there and you like because
i'm just so humble like and just so laid back and cool and but you know what i mean can i not be
humble for you yeah can i be like the guy for you um me and uh my partner that's right here um we want to give people they they flowers
while they're alive no if you want to get these flowers where they can smell them facts the trees
why they can't inhale them they thought that they can think of yeah they drinks what they can drink We got more.
We will not stop what we're doing.
Man, I got your back, man.
If I said I got your back, I got your back.
He's like, you got more shit.
You got more questions.
What's my nigga name again? Boobie.
We got you, Boobie.
I ain't going to lie to you.
Boobie might come with me later.
We should go to the fucking...
We got to get you.
We got to go all the way back to...
We got to go all the way back to...
We got a couple more.
We got a couple more.
Let's get it.
Miami or L.A.?
Oh, man.
I ain't even going to lie, though, bro.
I love yams.
Bro, you heard me.
You know what I'm saying?
I got the...
You heard me. I got the..., you heard me. You heard me.
I've got to come now. Big yammy.
You heard me.
Great choice.
Thanks.
Well, I mean, I'm both of you.
You know I brought my yams.
And I ain't going to lie to you, man.
Before we got our deal, man, Florida
was a state, you know what I'm saying, that had been
supporting me since day one.
Before we got our deal, you know what I'm saying, that been supporting me since day one before we got our deal.
You know, I was moving units, you know what I'm saying,
in Florida.
I'm talking about, like, doing shows up and down Florida
from Pensacola to Miami, man.
So, yeah, man, Florida, man, Miami, man, man, yeah, man.
Shout out to the 305.
Shout out to the 305, man.
You heard me?
Peace, man.
Love it.
All right. UG Care, ghetto boys. You heard me? Peace, man. Love you. All right.
UGK or Ghetto Boys?
I got to stay out of this.
Man, come on, bro.
Like, I ain't going to lie to you, bro.
I just let y'all know, you know what I'm saying, that face, you know what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, but I got, man, rest in peace, PMC, man.
Rest in peace, PMC.
You're like UGK, man.
You're like underground kings, man.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, Bum B was on my first album, Chopper City, man.
Like, that was the...
Yeah, man.
Like, that's the shoulders I'm standing on.
Niggas like Ghetto Boys and UGK and, you know, A-Ball and MJG.
And, you know, Three Sheiks, Mafia. And, you know, all of them. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, that'sBall and MJG and, you know, 369 here and, you know, all in the M's.
So, you know, that's the niggas I come up under, man.
But, yeah, man, I got to go UGK with that one, man.
You hear me?
Rest in peace, Chad, man.
Rest in peace, big Chad.
That was good.
That was good.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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EPMD or Gangstar?
It's an East Coast question.
EPMD, bro.
American price, million dollars.
Yeah.
And I was a baby then.
You know what I'm saying?
But I remember EPMD a little bit more than I remember gang stuff, man.
You know what I mean? That's a fact.
All right.
Now, this is the last one.
You want to say it?
No.
Oh, loyalty or?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Loyalty or respect?
Loyalty, man.
You know what I mean?
You know what I'm saying?
You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think loyalty, you know, go a long way, man. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think loyalty, you know, go, go, go, go a long way, man.
You know what I mean?
Like, you know, and you know, motherfuckers definitely want their respect.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, cause I, you know, I, I, I give, you know, everybody respect, you know what I mean?
Whether I like them or don't like them, you know what I mean?
But you know, loyalty just means something different to a motherfucker, you know what I mean?
So I'm going to definitely go with lawyers.
So let's take a shot for a day.
Let's take a shot because I got to go to the lab.
You see what y'all doing?
Nah, nah.
You put my Kool-Aid in that joke.
Get your Kool-Aid.
Ow, you heard me.
Let me ask you something. Hold on, let me ask you something.
You started at what age?
You was mad young.
So how old were you when you started rhyming?
How did you know?
Look, this nigga's a legend.
Who?
He moved at the exact same time.
He knew this nigga's a legend.
You said 13?
That's when you first started penning lyrics?
Yeah, yeah.
My daddy got killed when I was 12, right? You know what I'm saying?
So I think that was like one of the first songs I wrote was about my daddy, man.
You know what I mean? Just talking about him, right?
And I was always a fan of New Orleans music and New Orleans hip hop.
But I think it just was a part of me just journaling for real, you know what I mean?
And yeah, man, I was like, man, I'm going to write a song, man.
And I think I wrote a verse about my daddy,
and then I just kept writing.
Okay, because you said you was a fan of New Orleans music,
but specific artists, because you were, like you and Juvie to me were more lyrical than most at the time in the region. Yeah, yeah, artists, because you were like you and Juvie to me were
more lyrical than most at the time
in the region. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So where did you, who were you listening to that
kind of inspired that?
New Orleans
wise? In general. Who was
inspiring you lyrically? Oh man,
like Tupac,
Spice One. Ooh, Spice One,
Ghetto Boys,
UGK, Pimp Daddy,
you know, UNLV,
Partners in Crime,
like,
you know, I used MC Dick,
like, I used Ricky B,
L.O.G., like, you know, I was listening
to a lot of, you know, New Orleans music, but be a log like you know I was listening to a lot of you
know New Orleans music but then I also you know baby had me listening to Coogee
rap you know I mean last you know he had you listening to it yeah that's right
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's right interesting yeah yeah yeah baby like
when I was like You know 13, 14
Like you know baby
Used to make me listen
To a lot of cool G-Rap
You know what I mean
Just to
Yo I can see that now
Yo I can see that
But you know there's a lot
Of southern artists
That have said
Like Trick has said
That he was into cool G-Rap
I believe
You know what
I forgot about that part
You're correct
I think
There's a couple folks
That have said that out here
You're correct
Oh yeah
But you know That's gangster rap That's the couple folks that have said that out here. You're correct. Oh, yeah. But, you know,
that's gangster rap.
That's the original.
You got a big face.
Yeah.
That's your Kool-Aid pack
and all.
That's why I get
all that from you.
Yeah, yeah.
Get that from Kool-Aid rap.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, he was on his
yeah shit, like,
way back then.
Yeah, nah, baby used
to make me listen to,
you know, Kool-Aid rap
and, you know,
just different shit. You know what I mean? Because, like I said, I was a kid, man, and I to, you know, Coogee rap and, you know, just different shit, you know
what I mean? Because, like I said, I was a kid,
man, and I was, you know, just trying to find
my voice, you know, find my swag,
find my flow.
So I just used to eat up, you know,
all type of different
shit, you know what I mean?
You remember doing the video with Prodigy?
Absolutely. That was
probably one of the biggest things for Queens, right?
Nah, that was one of the biggest things for me, like, coming from the South.
You know what I mean?
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, that's my beat.
Right, right.
You know what I'm talking about?
This is my beat.
You know what I'm saying?
So, you know, for them to even much reach out to a nigga and ask, that really was kind
of, you know, one of them, you know, points in the nigga career where niggas feel like,
damn, they hear us up there.
Like, like, like, like, like, damn, we really made it.
Like, you know, like, niggas fucking with us now?
Okay, okay, okay.
I love this.
I love this.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, like, y'all look down on us. You I love this. You be like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, like y'all look down on us.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you're what kind of,
you know what I'm saying?
Like, kind of impersonating.
Hey, man.
You know what I mean?
I tell him all the time.
He don't believe it.
Yeah, man.
And it was like,
damn, bro, like,
you know what I'm saying?
Don't like this.
But it's,
it's factual history.
Wait, wait.
Hold on, hold on.
Because now you're
making his point. When Prodigy, like, called, okay. That shit meant the world to. Wait, wait. Hold on, hold on, because now you're making his point.
When Prodigy called, that shit meant the world to a nigga, man.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, man, rest in peace, Prodigy, man.
Rest in peace, Prodigy.
Big facts, you know what I'm saying?
But you didn't realize that you deserved that opportunity?
You didn't know that?
I mean, yeah, yeah.
I felt like, you know, that I deserved it.
But for real, for real, we was in a mind frame like,
man, fuck everybody.
You know what I'm saying?
We don't give a fuck about nothing.
You know what I'm saying?
We doing us.
You know what I'm saying?
And we just, you know what I'm saying?
Like, nah, that's just the attitude that we had, right?
That's the attitude I had.
You know what I'm saying?
We like, man, look, we going to make these niggas respect us. You know what I'm saying? We like, man, we going to make these niggas respect us.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know how niggas be.
You know what I'm saying?
No, I know.
You know what I'm saying?
Niggas just, you know what I'm saying?
So, niggas wasn't even trimming.
Like, man, we getting money, man.
You know what I'm saying?
We here, you know what I'm saying?
We getting these plaques.
You know what I'm saying?
These niggas ain't seeing us, nigga.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, but, yeah, they see us.
They act like they don't see us.
But this is the first,
is that the first time that you felt like New York was embracing you?
I ain't going to lie.
Like, when you reached out, you know what I'm saying?
I reached out two years ago earlier.
Yeah, nah, but that's a fact.
Like, nigga, like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, no one ever reached out.
You know what I'm saying, nigga?
Prada, she didn't reach out.
You know, Jay-Z reached out. You know what I'm saying? Jay-ada She didn't reach out You know Jay-Z Reached out
You know what I'm saying
We on this cash money
A year later
I'ma be honest
You just driving that
Nah nah nah
You was
You know what I'm saying
Like you was
Oh early
Big facts
Tell them all where I was
Tell them all where I was
Tell them all where I was
I knew
I knew
I was like
I'm sorry
I gotta take my props
I'm sorry
I'm sorry
Right now Right right over here.
Okay, okay.
But, yeah, man, that really, you know, kind of made a nigga feel, you know, a little bit
more comfortable.
And, you know what I mean?
Like, it's not just comfortable.
It's just, you know what I'm saying?
Like, all right, all right, we here now.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's official.
It's beautiful to hear you say that
But it's also like
Not beautiful to hear you say that
Because we really
Embraced you
In New York
You were our artist in New York
And you know what's crazy
Did you know that though
In retrospect
You know what I'm saying
And just creating
relationships you knew that i wish you knew that you know what i mean but you know how you like
new york the mecca you know saying a hip-hop you know what i mean and you're thinking we ain't
fucking with you keep it real keep it real i mean i'm keeping it real like Because I feel like you're about to say yes. But no, no.
You know what?
Fuck it.
Hurt my feelings right now.
Because this is not
how we felt about you.
This is not how we felt about us.
We've explained to you
it was not you guys.
It was the industry at home.
You know where there's no limit.
You know, like,
I'm going to just say
Master P
or Jermaine Dupri
or Birdman, you know what I'm saying?
Lil J, you know what I'm saying?
You got all these
down south,
you know what I'm saying?
Even Luke down here. Everybody's looking for Luke.
You know what I'm saying?
But all you hear is
Puffy and Jay-Z.
You know what I'm saying? And Suge. You know what I'm saying? Niggas don't give, you know, Puffy and Jay-Z. You know what I'm saying? And Suge.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Niggas don't give, you know, niggas like P and Birdman
and Jermaine Dupri and Lil' G.
You know what I'm saying?
They props and they done just as much or even more than all them niggas.
You know what I'm saying?
So, you know, I be feeling like it be a bias there.
You know what I'm saying?
When it come down to, You know what I'm saying? When it come down to Southern
legendary
entrepreneur type niggas versus
East Coast or West
Coast. That's true. You know what I'm saying,
niggas? You feel me? But it's
cool though. We ain't tripping.
You see Luke, what he's
been saying? He wants to celebrate the 40 years of Southern
hip-hop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Huh?
Luke's been saying he wants to celebrate 40 years of Southern hip-hop.
Nah, big facts.
Can I say something?
Big facts.
Can I say something?
Big facts.
And I'm going to represent the whole East Coast for this moment.
Maybe I can never represent for East Coast ever in a moment like this
ever again.
We loved
Southern hip-hop.
We appreciated Southern hip-hop.
No, thanks. It's that
we couldn't
put it on the
forefront at that time.
We just didn't.
So how y'all what is that shit called uh uh
comprehend how y'all comprehended it yeah was wrong no no it's not it's not it's not it's not
wrong man it's not wrong at all man no it's not wrong i was working it i was a dj active at the
time i'm going to new york to get to get records. I was interacting with people.
No, I'm just telling you.
Okay, by the way.
And it's not you.
It was the industry.
The industry was built in New York, so it was New York-centric.
Exactly.
That's what it was.
Exactly.
The hip-hop radio was centralized in New York.
Then you had Atlanta and L.A.
But New York still controlled most of it.
In L.A., was like competing. The South
was left. Even
with media and all that.
The source, XX, everything.
You had to go to New York.
He voted for Vanessa. So who do you think they're hiring?
They're hiring everybody in New York.
They fell. Immediately
Vanessa.
You know what I mean? That's who was embracing them. Yeah, Vanessa. You know what I mean?
That's who was embracing us.
Yeah, facts.
And by the way, neither of y'all are incorrect.
What makes y'all incorrect was y'all blaming the actual people.
No, we're not.
Nah, nah, nah.
We're blaming the infrastructure.
That's what I'm blaming.
That's what you, the infrastructure, right? blaming the infrastructure. That's what I'm blaming.
The infrastructure, right?
It's New York-centric, so they come from that angle.
That was the first source when
Andre 3...
The South got something to say.
You gonna bring that up?
Come on, baby.
That's where we go with it?
You ain't even drinking and you're fucking up.
You gonna bring that up, B?
Damn.
He's sober drunk.
Yeah, he's sober drunk.
No, but you're right, though.
You're right.
You see what I'm saying?
No, no, you're right.
Like, and niggas was going, niggas been doing numbers.
You know, niggas been, you know what I'm saying?
Like, and it's like, God damn.
I can't speak for the whole East Coast, right? You know what I'm saying? And it's like, god damn. I can't speak for the whole East Coast, right?
You know what I'm saying?
But what I can speak for is the people that loved it.
And let me just tell you something.
Cash Money came and fucked with me.
They came and seen me.
Lil Wayne came and fucked with me.
B.G. came and fucked with me. Juven Wayne came and fucked with me. BG came and fucked with me.
Juvenile came and fucked with me.
Every
David Banner came and fucked with me.
Crooked Letters
came and fucked with me.
So I want to tell y'all
I love y'all.
She's one of them niggas.
That's right.
Let me give myself my flowers
Like, nigga
He had respect for you
Like, nigga
This is no real
Like, what the fuck
So, so, so
So I respect
When y'all say
Maybe an East Coast nigga
Ain't fuck with you
But can y'all respect
When you say
The East Coast nigga
Did love y'all
Yeah, nah, fact
Like, of course
That's why we have Dream Champs.
Because I'm from Miami, you're from New York.
We obviously created Dream Champs.
Nah, fake.
You trying to shut me up?
I'm just saying.
I like that.
I like that.
Well, let's get back to beef.
No.
Nah, but dude, let me just tell you something.
And I don't want to say you're the realest.
With the N word, right?
I don't want to say that, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, facts.
I get it.
But you kept it real.
You stood still.
And you're the only one
that I've ever seen
say anything about
a record label, and they
forgive them in the
most respectful way ever.
By the way, I don't
think there will ever be another one
of you.
But it's real,
it's honesty,
and
do you understand how
real that shit is?
Or you don't? I mean, now that you're kind of
like, I'm taking it in right
now, you know what I mean?
But, um, yeah, I'm taking it in right now. You know what I mean? Yeah, I get it.
I get it.
I get it.
I get it.
Because when that record came out, right, I looked.
I was like, Dad, why would BG do that?
Right?
This is me.
This is me.
I'm like, he came home.
They accepted him.
They accepted him.
Why the hell did he do that?
And then
And then two weeks later
They accepted you back
I said
I said this is the only thing in the world
That is so fucking dope
Yeah nah man
You said
This is
What's your words?
And you could
Correct me if you want
You said But I let it be known in there In the song You said You know is what your words, and you could correct me if you want.
But I let it be known in there, in the song.
You said, you said.
I had to get this off my chest.
You heard me.
And I was like.
Yeah, man, like it wasn't no, you know what I'm saying,
it wasn't no off, you know what I'm saying,
but you dig, like yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Cause don't, you heard me, like stand on it, man.
I mean, bro, look, we gonna leave that alone, let that go. You know what I'm saying? You heard me? Stand on it, man. I mean, bro, look.
We're going to leave that alone and let that go.
We already left that alone and let that go.
But just ask me.
Just ask me.
When y'all first met up,
because everybody got to be like, nigga.
What happened?
Was there...
Bro, man, listen.
At the end of the day, day bro you know what I'm saying
like
and I love Birdman
that's my
I love him too
man you heard me
but nigga know like
that I'm just
ignorant bro
I'm just the
young bad
rebellious
you know child
that's just liable
to say anything
at any given time
you know what I'm saying
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