Drink Champs - Episode 452 w/ B.G.

Episode Date: May 2, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the one and only, B.G.! The legendary New Orleans rapper and former Hot Boys member dives into his storied career, discus...sing his early days with Cash Money Records, the formation of the Hot Boys, and his influence on Southern hip-hop. B.G. opens up about his time away from the spotlight, sharing personal insights and reflections. Fans can expect candid conversations, untold stories, and a celebration of B.G.'s enduring legacy in the rap game. Make some noise for B.G.!! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more: * https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreaga  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:18 I literally went to New Orleans and I tried to, I tried, I tried to get with folks. Folks told me, man, you're fucking with the wrong folks. It's not No Limit at the time. It's the Hot Boys. And I didn't know. It was a Puerto Rican girl. She had gold fronts in her teeth. She said, she said, she said, she said,
Starting point is 00:03:47 Walden, you're doing the wrong thing. You better go fuck with the highball. You better go fuck with... And I... And what I realized was there's real niggas across the world. Facts.
Starting point is 00:04:08 There's so many different parts of your life that I respect, that I honor, that I watched. And obviously one of them was when you were with the label. The other was when you left the label. And then the other is when you came back to the label the other was when you left the label and then the other is when you came back to the label but then you you did so much things and the thing about it is this i came to new orleans so many different times a lot of people don't know that new orleans has a spanish community so i used to come i used to come and be there. But one thing for sure, two things for certain,
Starting point is 00:04:49 the whole city respect Chopper City. They whole respect B-Gizzle. They respect who BG represents. They respect who, and you know what I did? Man, it was so many times. I've tried to connect. I met you at Prodigy Video. I'll tell you that part later. But it was so many times. And when I found out that you came home, because I didn't even realize you did. 13 years? 13?
Starting point is 00:05:18 No, it'd be 12 and a half. 12 and a half. 12 and a half. You might as well say 13. You might as well say 13. And what I'm trying to say is, I'm going to be honest with you. This might be the first time. Where Mr. Lee at?
Starting point is 00:05:31 Right here. Where Mr. Lee at? This might be the first time that we're going to start the show off. And I want to start the show off by giving you your flowers. Man, nah. Because you know why? Bro. One million percent, you deserve your flowers.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I was so excited, man. Because you know why? One million percent, you deserve your flowers. I was so excited, man. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Because when you're a real one. Wow. Hey. Hey. Wow.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And Snoop Dogg said it's better than the Grammy because it comes from your people and he said it comes from your people bro I'm so humbled you know what I'm saying and just so appreciative and you know coming from you who's the super legend and it's like
Starting point is 00:06:18 this you gonna make some noise for that like how Like how much this mean to me. They got real flowers in there. Let's go. Go, go. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Let me just tell you something, man. I'm going to be honest with you. Had it been anybody else, I'm out in vacation in Puerto Rico, and I forgot, and I was like, oh shit, BG is here,
Starting point is 00:06:48 and I said, nah, out of anybody else in this world, I'm flying back for BG is enough, because you a real one, come on, let me get, I'll get up, I'll get up. And you know what, I'm going to be honest, I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I'm going to be honest, bro. That's so fair. No, no, no. You deserve this shit. No, no, no, no. I appreciate it, bro. You deserve this shit. Like, from the bottom of my heart, bro.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I appreciate it. You know what I mean? And because you... I'm going to just tell you something. There's not a lot of real rappers. There's not a lot. Yeah, no. There's a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Yeah, I mean, you know. I mean, this thing of ours that we call hip-hop, bro, it's a lot of dudes. It's watered down, man. It's just really, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, really not. He was nice. He said, what did he say? Wait, he just said watered down?
Starting point is 00:07:37 No, no, no. It's crazy, though, because, you know, people get a little fame. People get a little money, man, and they forget where they come from. You know what I mean? And I ain't never been him. Yeah come from. You know what I mean? And I ain't never been him. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:52 Like, you know, I've always, you know, just been true to myself. You know what I mean? True to, you know, where I come from. And just standing on what's real, man. You know what I mean? And that mean more to me than anything. You know what I mean? Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Yeah, man. So I'm going to bounce around a little bit. All right. But this is one of my favorite times when I seen you. This is when you left Cash Money, right? Facts. When you left Cash Money
Starting point is 00:08:14 and you just walking through Chopper City and you promoting Chopper City. Mm-hmm. And you, I don't feel like, in my opinion, this is my opinion.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Go ahead. You wasn't dissing Cash Money, but you were saying, yo, I'm going to put together my four, and you say these are not the hot boys. Mm-hmm. These are not the hot boys. And I seen you in the hood. I felt that shit so much.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Because I left. I was down with a person named Tragedy. Tragedy was my bird man. Right, right, right, right, right. And when I sent you going on your own, oh, my God, that shit touched me in a way because I was just like, damn. A lot of us don't understand that we're from the hood and we believe in the person that's putting us on. Big facts. First and foremost, I just
Starting point is 00:09:14 want to say, man, Baby and Slim, they saved my life with this music thing. Let's make a noise for that. Baby my man. that's my nigga big bags like you know it's deeper than rap you know i'm saying with me you know baby and slim and you know cash money changed my life you know saved my life and you know at the end of the day you know we we went through what we went through and you know i was young you know wow you And, you know, I was young. You know, wild.
Starting point is 00:09:45 You know, reckless. You know what I'm saying? I made some mistakes. You know, they made some mistakes. You know, and as we got older, you know, and as we grew, you know, we was able to have a conversation about it. And, you know, really understand both sides. You know, perspective of it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:02 But you, when I left, you know, they know me. Like, I but you when I left you know they know me like I'm I'ma say what's on my mind you know and say what's in the hood yeah not facts because you walking through with the red yeah because you know what's crazy the the reason I was able to come back you know to the hood like that and in the hood was able to embrace me. Now, this is the same hood you're all from? Yeah, yeah, all of us from Uptown, from the 3 to the 13, all of us from the hood. But when we made it,
Starting point is 00:10:35 and when we got the $30 million deal, and when we was on MTV and BET, and doing the world tours, and Chipotle jeans, Reeboks, all that kind of things. Like, I never forgot where I came from, you know what I mean? The same dude I was, you know, when I had a thousand dollars, you know what I'm saying, was the same dude I was when I got my first million dollars, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:01 So, you know, when I walked away, you know, from the dollar sign, you know what i mean so you know when when when i walked away you know from the from the dollar sign you know what i mean with with with pretty much nothing you know what i mean i probably had a couple hundred grand you know what i mean and i walked away and i just was like man walked away from cash money you say yeah yeah yeah yeah like you know at the end of the day you know when i was up i was the same dude I was when I was down. You know what I mean? So, you know, the hood embraced me and wrapped their arms around me because they knew, you know what I mean, that, man, like, I ain't never changed. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:11:40 Like, I ain't never changing. There's a lot of dudes that when they get up, they get to shitting on their homies, talking to their homies, reckless, get to treating people bad, not just being the same person they was before they got on, man. But I never was him, man. You know what I mean I'd be you know in the barbershop on the block you know watching you know 106 you know what I'm saying the videos come like I you know I'm saying I had the pincers and you know all the whips and all that you know probably leave off tour and come post up you know on the block you know just chilling because that's where you know, on the block, you know, just chilling because that's where, you know, I felt comfortable at, man. So, you know, it was, it was, it wasn't nothing, man, for the, for the, for the hood to, you know, just wrap their arms around me, man, because at the end of the day, when I was
Starting point is 00:12:37 up, I ain't never forgot, you know, where I came from. He's the same person. Now, let me ask you, because here's one of the parts of the story when I'm looking. And I always thought No Limit and Cash Money was like Bloods and Crips, right? I'm from New York, so you got to actually let me get away with this, right? You got to let me get away, because I'm outside of looking in. Facts. But when you research you, you say, damn, PG and Soulja Slim was damn near best friends. Nah, big facts.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Big facts. But Soulja Slim represented no limit. Big facts. Right? Big facts. So I'm looking, and I'm like, because I knew this, but as I'm researching it now, I'm saying, holy shit, this was actually, we would affiliate to Bloods and Crips now. Nah, facts, facts. And you know, Slim was originally supposed to be on Cash Money for real.
Starting point is 00:13:38 See, I don't know this. You know what I mean? Please, please, please tell me. Please tell me. Please tell me. Nah, nah, nah. Wait, so who? Tell me.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I don't know that. I don't know that. Nah, for real. Nah, because, you know, it was a group, UNLV, you know, who was signed to Cash Money, you know, like previously the dudes that I came up under, you know what I mean? And, you know, he was featured, you know, on the UNLV album. And, you know, Slim was, man, Slim was a cold-blooded gangster, like, for real. Like, Slim just was, you know Slim was man Slim was a a cold-blooded gangster like for real like Slim just was you know different like you know we talking Calio Magnolia yeah I mean yeah not Slim
Starting point is 00:14:14 Magnolia to the bone okay I mean Slim Slim from the Magnolia Projects you know what I mean you know he started you know on on the parkway with KLC, you know what I mean? The producer. The producer. Absolutely. Nah, facts. And yeah, man, Slim, but Slim had one foot in and one foot out, you know what I mean? So, you know, I don't think. Yeah, I don't think you ever talked about this.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I don't think you ever talked about this. But back then, like I said, you know, we was just young niggas. You know what I'm saying? We was wild. And I don't even think we had realized, you know, how much, you know, rap and music, you know, could change our lives. Like, we just was doing it for the love of the music at the time. You know what I mean? And just doing it for the city, you know, representing, you know, where we came from, our hoods. Representing our wars and things of that nature.
Starting point is 00:15:05 But, you know, Slim was going back and forth to jail for carjackings and, you know, attempted murders. Murders on robberies. You know what I'm saying? Like, all type of shit. Like, so, you know, finally, you know, when Slim, I think Slim had caught his last jokes. You know what I mean? And he came home and, you know, KLC, you know what I'm saying, pulled him under his wing. And, you know, No Limit was, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:31 Now, KLC was producing for No Limit? Yeah, he was producing for No Limit. Here's my next question. Absolutely. So Slim also had his ties to C-Murda. Nah, big, yeah, yeah, nah, facts. And that came from when he went to No Limit, facts. Okay, so
Starting point is 00:15:45 how was you and C Murder's relationship? Because, I mean, I'm an outsider looking in, so I'm asking this out of ignorance. Me and C Murder relationship came through slim. You know what I mean? Like, you know, me and Slim. Because as a fan,
Starting point is 00:16:01 I want to know this. I'm asking this as a fan. I'm sorry. Yeah, nah, nah, nah. Facts. Me and C, murder relationship, you know, yeah, pretty much came through Slim. You know what I'm saying? You know, after Slim was murdered, you know what I mean? And I understood and respected, you know, the relationship that Slim and C had. And then C ended up falling on his murder charge and
Starting point is 00:16:25 you know he reached out to me you know to get on the record oh y'all done heard of me you know what I mean was that when you was in jail too or no I was out I was out you know C murder was in you know what I'm saying he reached out to me you know to get on the record you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:16:41 and I've always been a fan of No Limit you know what I mean and they whole movement we always want a fan of No Limit. You know what I mean? And the whole movement. We always want to hear that. We heard that even, I think Baby kind of even said that to us. Yeah, yeah. And P even said
Starting point is 00:16:52 it was mutual respect. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Not only that, like, if you really do your history and your homework, like,
Starting point is 00:16:59 you know that Mac was on my first Choppa City album. Like, Mac is my brother. Like, me and Mac, you know, grew up together. Or me and X is like a, you know, big sister to me.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Like, you know, we go back 20, 25 years. You know what I'm saying? Fiend. You know, we used to live like a block away from each other, you know, when I was in elementary school. Like, you know, I got ties to a bunch of artists, you know, on No Limit. Like, I mean, the city's small.
Starting point is 00:17:32 It's kind of big, but it's small. See, the city's small to y'all, but to us, when we see Calio, we see Magnolia, we thinking this is... Man, listen, all that's in like a full five block radius, man. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We don't know that. The Cali, you're right here.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Magnolia, you're right here. Milfameen, right here. 13 Wall, right here. And then the 17 Wall, like right back here. And it's all uptown. But man, all that shit five, ten minutes away from each other. You know what I mean? Let me just tell you, as a New Yorker.
Starting point is 00:18:03 I'm popping you. Now, now. You know what I'm saying? You right there you as a New Yorker. I'm popping you with the blouse and you know what I'm saying? You right there. It's my friend. It's my brother, Airfan. I don't know how you looked at it.
Starting point is 00:18:11 What? No, I'm talking about looking at it. But we thought like, Calio and Magnolia Hell nah, that's five,
Starting point is 00:18:20 ten minutes. Man, that's five minutes. We thought y'all was Man, if you know the cuts in the streets and the boop-bop-bam It's really four minutes. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know what I'm saying, man, that's five minutes. We thought y'all was. And if you know the cuts and the streets and the boop-bop-bam. It's really four minutes. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:18:27 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You get more. It's a hop, skip, and a jump. Go up, boop-bop-bam, and you right there in the project. All right. You know what I'm saying? From one project to the next in like five minutes.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Wow. Nah, big facts. Wow. Big facts. Big facts. Okay. I'm going to give you a story. I went to try to do a record with No Limit.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I couldn't reach them, right? Okay, okay, okay. I was telling them where my brother-in-law at, my brother-in-law. So I went to the W Hotel. It's in between. Right in the CBD. Right in the casino. I know exactly where you at. And it's this Puerto Rican girl.
Starting point is 00:19:04 And she came to me and she said, No Limit not the shit no more. Right in the CBD. Right in the casino. I know exactly where you at. And it's this Puerto Rican girl. And she came to me and she said, no lemon, not the shit no more. And I said, what? And she said, you better go fuck with them cash money boys. And I said, okay. And I reached out to Baby. That's why me and Baby to this day is cool. And Baby said, you sure?
Starting point is 00:19:28 You want to fuck with us? I said, yeah. You know I know. You know I know. So I said, yeah. And it was Jewelry. So all right. So let me just tell you something.
Starting point is 00:19:41 A lot of people think that Jay-Z worked with Juvie first. That's not the case. No, no, no, no, no. It's me. It's me. I worked with Cash Money first. This is documented. You can do it.
Starting point is 00:19:54 It's a 1999 on my album. And Baby said to me, fuck with my niggas. And he introduced me to you. Introduced me to Juvie. The only person I didn't understand was Lil Wayne. I couldn't get it at that time. He was so young. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I couldn't get it. But I want to go to there. I look at, I watched y'all documentaries. Y'all had about three or four documentaries. I'm sitting there like this. So I forgot Birdman's brother that passed away. Yeah, yeah, Eldridge. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Yeah, yeah. So I'm looking, and I'm going to be honest with you. I want you to answer me honestly, too. I know you are. Because you don't know how to be fake. I know that. I know that. But when I watch that shit, I'm talking about, this is skinny BG.
Starting point is 00:21:01 And I'm so happy. I'm so happy. I'm watching you. But what do you think that you were happy because this was your first time getting out the hood or you were just happy because this is the first opportunity you had? What do you think? I mean, I ain't even lying.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Like, you know before we even got the deal like you know we had been you know had the salt on lock and you know been getting money
Starting point is 00:21:33 and you know been doing you know popping bottles and you know doing our thing man I just
Starting point is 00:21:41 I think I was just more so happy that like like like damn, like, we've, like, man, because when you come from the hood, like, you really can't see past the hood, for real. You know what with a thought that we would have reached, you know, the levels of success that we was able to reach. And, you know, for Wayne, you know, be the golden, you know, for cash money to have been in, you know, define the whole era. And, you know, for the cash money brand to just be as big as it is. And, you know, for juvenile to still be getting plaques from 400 degrees, like, 25 years later, like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:28 Just, you know, for me to have a word in the dictionary, like, bling, bling. And you know, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, bro, like, man, bro, coming from where I come from, bro, like, you know, bro, like, you came C-Pass 25 for real. I gotta have a drink. I don't know whatever drink you got. I gotta have a drink. Oh, it came on time. Look at that. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show
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Starting point is 00:27:25 Let me give you your flowers. I seen hood niggas make it before. Mm-hmm. But I'm going to be honest with you. I never seen hood niggas make it like y'all. Nah, big facts, man. And I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:27:41 When you came home, I'm going to ask you about this, but I'm going to ask you about this later. Okay. You made a diss record towards Cash Money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's the first time I ever in my life seen a person make a diss record and get a pass for it. That nigga was like, that nigga got a whole
Starting point is 00:27:59 he got a right. You understand what I'm saying I've never heard no response I've never heard no I'm dead serious when you right you right when you wrong you wrong you know what I mean so you know at the end of the day man like I say man
Starting point is 00:28:18 you know bro the bros know like man it's just gonna be tripping man you know what I'm saying? Like, they know, you know what I'm saying? Like, when I get in my feelings, I spaz out. You know what I mean? Because you, I believe Turk was on here, and you was like, man, tell Turk to shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:28:41 And I'm like, I'm like These gentlemen just told you To shut up And then just told everybody Shut up too At the same time And I'm like I had never seen that before Sound like family talk though
Starting point is 00:28:55 No but you know what That's family That's family For everything Ain't for everybody But what is with You had to get that Off your chest
Starting point is 00:29:04 Yeah absolutely I did absolutely I had to get that off your chest? Yeah, absolutely. I did. Absolutely. I had to get that off my chest. You know what I mean? And, you know, niggas understand it. Like, like, like, like, you know, we done talked about it and you know, it's all around. Nigga, we had a whole meeting about it. We was like, this nigga BG is crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Shitting on everybody and they cool with it. I said this really I'm like hold and I know Birdman I know him nah man Birdman raised me bro you know what I'm saying like you know that's like
Starting point is 00:29:40 a father figure to me you know what I'm saying him and Slim you know what I mean I got the utmost love for him. I love that. You know, respect for him. I love that. You know, it's always be like that, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, sometimes, like, you know, shit, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:54 You know, we laugh about it, we joke about it, but... On a private plane, I imagine. Yeah, no, I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? You're not joking about it in Rob Playland. Man, listen. Yeah, nah, even after that, I'm saying. You're not joking about it in Rob Playland. Man, listen. Even after that, I'm going to be like, bitch, look, bitch, you know you're on bad, bitch.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Come on, Ron. Come on. Don't do me that. It's me. You know what I'm saying? Don't, don't, don't. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, at the end of the day, man, it's deeper than rap, man.
Starting point is 00:30:22 You know what I mean? It's deeper than rap, man. And the love and mean? It's deeper than rap, man, and the love and respect, you know what I'm saying, gonna always be there, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, like, you know, in the booth and, you know, in the studio, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:30:36 You know, when you're just getting them emotions out and just getting them feelings out and just, you know, speaking from the heart, like, you know, shit just come out, you know what I mean? You feelings out and just, you know, speaking from the heart, like, you know, shit just come out, you know what I mean? You know, I just, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes shit just come out, man.
Starting point is 00:30:51 And, you know, but at the end of the day, man, you know, I'm always be, you know, like, you know, I live and breathe, you know what I'm saying, for Chopper City, man. But, you know, cash money gonna always be my home. You know what I'm saying, for Choppa City, man. But, you know, cash money going to always be my home. I love that. You know what I mean? I love that.
Starting point is 00:31:09 But do you realize, like, when it comes to the real nigga category, and I don't even want to use the word nigga, right? But real. Yeah. It's Tupac, DMX, and then it's BG. Oh, man, that's a hell of a lineup. You hear me? Nah, and then it's BG. Oh, man, that's a hell of a lineup. You hear me? Nah, that's love.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I ain't even put myself in there. You two niggas know everything. I ain't even put myself in there. But what I'm saying is, do you realize that? You realize, like, let me tell you something. I love you, man. I love who you represent. I love who you represent. I love who you are.
Starting point is 00:31:50 And it was a blessing for me to just go and reiterate your category. And I just kept looking. And I was just like, damn. I just kept telling my son. My son is right there. He's my son Yeah He right there
Starting point is 00:32:06 Yeah And I just kept telling him I was like Yo man I kinda don't admire Any other rappers Nah But I admire you
Starting point is 00:32:17 Man come on bro Don't do me that No No no No no I'm serious I'm serious That's the reason
Starting point is 00:32:24 That's the reason why Birdman Is telling you, yo, I'm going to call you. Because I told Birdman this. I said, yo, man, when y'all was at the Outs, I never had an opinion. Right, right, right, right, right, right, right. I feel like y'all should make it right. Nah, big facts. Big facts. And Slim, I told this to Slim.
Starting point is 00:32:42 And he knew, like, back then, like, you know, I was like, you know, just a young, you know, rebellious, you know, child back then like You know I was like you know just a young You know rebellious You know child right you know what I'm saying That's why he never answered me Or never you know responded You know what I mean because I'm talking about you know when my mama House was a stash house
Starting point is 00:33:00 You know what I mean you know back in the 80's You know what I mean like But we go Way back you know what I mean? You know, back in the 80s. You know what I mean? Wow. Like, but we go way back. You know what I mean? So, you know, the, like, he's just, I guess he just looked at it like, man, that's my just young, wild, reckless, rebellious child. You know what I'm saying? And I ain't even much going, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:33:20 I'm just letting him vent. You know what I'm saying? And I ain't even going to answer. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? So let me ask you. And that's just how that is. You know what I'm saying? And I ain't even going to answer. You heard me? You know what I mean? So let me ask you. And that's just how that is. As a person, like I just told you, Traz put me on.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Traz is like my bird, man. Right. And it was a certain point where Traz did something where I was just like, man, I can't forgive this. And I made a diss record after he made a diss record, right? Right. I regret it. This is me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I'm not saying that you should regret it. But what was the breaking point where you felt like, damn. Was it when you was in jail or was it when you came home? As far as what? As far as like, damn, man, let me say something. Let me get this off my chest, like how we were speaking earlier. You mean like...
Starting point is 00:34:11 That was before he went in. Yeah, that was way before I went to jail. I went to jail in 2011. Yeah, because I see that in the documentary. I left Cash Money in what, 2002? 2003? You know what I mean? So I ain't go, 2002, 2003, you know what I mean? So I ain't go to jail until, you know, 2011, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:28 But I think our first time really, you know, just is when his little sister Tamara died in a car wreck, you know what I'm saying? God bless Tamara, man, you know what I mean? Like, may she the car wreck. You know what I'm saying? God bless Tamara, man. You know what I mean? Like, may she rest in peace. You know what I'm saying? But I think she died in a car wreck in, like, 2007. You know what I mean? And, you know, me and Myra was, like, the same age. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:57 And you reached out to him? And me and Myra grew up together. You know, that was like a sister to me. Like, that was my sister. You know what I mean, and, you know, just as much as I knew it was hurting him, you know, it was hurting me, and one night, he was on the radio with Q93, you know what I mean, with Wild Wayne, man, shout out to Wild Wayne, and I heard him on the radio, and I called in, you know what I mean radio and I called in you know what I mean and I called in live man and um and and while Wayne plug you know both us in on the air together you know what I mean and I just let
Starting point is 00:35:34 him know you know that that you know I I love him you know I was sorry for his loss you know blah blah blah blah blah you know this this that and the other and then that's you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, this, this, that, and the other. And then that's, you know, when we started, you know, just, you know, mending, you know, the relationship and just, you know, just really just forgiving each other for everything that had happened, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, it was the first time that I remember
Starting point is 00:36:03 is, yeah, when Tamara died in a car crash. Let's make some noise. Let me just tell you something. And I'm going to tell you something that no one wants to tell you. Rough Riders. Hmm. Rockefeller. Rockefeller.
Starting point is 00:36:25 I don't even remember any other crews. But I don't even know if I'm a part of this crew. But the fact when Cash Money got back together, that was the best thing we've ever seen in hip hop. Oh, yeah. You got to remember, we seen when y'all was at the top. Nah, big face, big face. And then we seen y'all lose. I mean, y'all do it.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Y'all go down. And then we had the Turk thing. And Turk said that y'all was wearing fake watches. I didn't know what the fuck he was talking about. Did you saw that? Man, yeah, I seen it, man. But we ain't even going to eat much. y'all was wearing fake watches. I didn't know what the fuck he was talking about. Did you, did you, you saw that? Cause I, man, yeah,
Starting point is 00:37:06 I seen it, man. But we ain't even gonna eat much. We ain't gonna eat much. Cause we, let's stay positive. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:37:14 nah. Let me just tell you, let me just tell you something. I'm gonna just tell you something. As an outsider looking in, as an insider looking out. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:37:20 When y'all got this shit together, we all, all industry motherfuckers is looking like, damn. Nah. We wish we could be y'all got this shit together, we all, all industry motherfuckers is looking like, damn. We wish we could be y'all. Oh, yeah. Real shit. Come on. You don't think rock writers wish that?
Starting point is 00:37:34 You don't think rock and roll? Oh, this bird right here. Let's go, goddamn it. What's up, what's up, bitch? What's wrong, bro? Man, I'm live on Trinket. Hey, tell Norman that my son was there. Oh, nah, he could hear you.
Starting point is 00:37:54 You know how I love you, bro? You know how I love you, bro, man? Come on, bro. You know, me and you got a different relationship. We good. Real talk. That's right. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Yo, you know, we giving BG his flowers tremendously. He needs it. He has to have it. That's right. I'm not gangster. He did it the right way, son. We got him. All right, my brother. My brother. My brother. Hey, hey, hey. I'm going gangster. He did it the right way, son. We got him. All right, my brother.
Starting point is 00:38:26 My brother. My brother. Hey, hey. Okay. I'm going to hit you as soon as I finish, bro. All right, look. All right. So I just want to be honest
Starting point is 00:38:36 because you're living in the moment that you might not understand that you're living in. Y'all doing the most historical shit. That tour that y'all doing right now. Yeah. What are y'all living in right now? After all these years later?
Starting point is 00:38:59 Nah, man. I ain't even going to lie, bro. It's the most historical shit. Yeah, nah. It really, I mean, it's humbling, you know what I mean, to me, right? You know what I mean? But it just really, because for real, for real, when I got that 14-year sentence, bro, I thought it was over for me. 14 years.
Starting point is 00:39:15 You know what I'm saying? Them people gave me 14 years, 168 months. You know what I mean? And, you know, when they gave me all that time, bro, I really thought it was over with. Like, I thought they closed the curtains on me. You know what I mean? Like, you know it's hard to remain relevant in this rap thing, you know, for a month. And who was the rappers that reached out to you?
Starting point is 00:39:36 Boosie? Yeah, Boosie held me down, man. Walked me all the way to the door, T.I. You know what I mean? Like, my man, Maino, you know what I mean like my man may know you know what i'm saying bird man you know what i mean but man absolutely that's my brother man man we go all the way back yeah man like like but but for real for real i couldn't see that fault you heard me you know what i mean like i i i i really couldn't see that fault. You know what I mean? Like, I really couldn't see that fault, man.
Starting point is 00:40:06 And it took, you know, maybe like five, you know, six years into my sentence. To the bed. You know, that I started feeling like, damn, man, like, you know, I might got another shot at it. You could see that. Yeah, I thought you could kind of, once you get over the hump, you know, you could pretty much, you know, see the end and know how you're going to walk it down. You know, with social media and Instagram and, you know, all the different platforms that's out here now, you know, that you could just stay active on. Stay connected, right. Stay connected and remain relevant.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Was you recording music in there? You know what I mean? Or no? Nah, man. Bob's Cartel recorded music. You see all these people recording music now? Man, them people pulled me up when I first got in there and told me that if I get caught
Starting point is 00:40:57 rapping on the phone or doing anything, you know what I'm saying? They was with me on 23 and 1. You know what I'm saying? And they was with me on 23 and 1. You know what I'm saying? No way. Like, period. Oh, they were all you.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Man, them people was on me out the gate. Yeah, I could see that. I could see that. I could see that. Like, they wasn't having it. You know what I mean? And, you know, I done been caught, you know, with knives and cell phones and, you know, different shit.
Starting point is 00:41:21 But I never tried them like that. You know what I mean? Because I already knew, you know, and the phase like that. You know what I mean? Because I already knew and the feds is different. You know what I mean? Like anything that... Oh, you was in the feds, not the state. Nah, yeah, I was in the feds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if it's anything
Starting point is 00:41:34 you know that you can make money off of or you know you could... Man, the feds don't play like that. Yeah, they'll attack more shit on you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they'll book your ass. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:41:47 Like, like, they ain't going for it, you know what I mean? So, you know, but, but,
Starting point is 00:41:52 but, but like I was saying, man, in the beginning, I was a little bitter. You know, I was, I was,
Starting point is 00:41:58 I was, I was hurt. Let me ask you, why was you bitter? Because I felt like I was over-sentenced. Yeah, you thought it was good. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah over-sentenced. Yeah, you thought it was a good thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, from the sentence. Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Yeah, I just felt like I was over-sentenced. Yeah, man, because, you know, I done seen, you know, T.I. get a year and a day, and, you know, Gucci get three years, and, you know, Beanie, you know, got a year and a day. Like, all these dudes had the same you like what the case i had like gun charge you know what i mean and they got you know these slaps on the wrist even we got a year even we got a year and a day in new york it was state but it was a year and a day so i'm like shit i'm a rapper too let me get the rapper deal let me get the rapper deal, man. You know what I mean? Man, that is crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:48 That's true what you're saying. That must have been crazy to hear that sentence. Man, I'm talking about, man, they smacked me over the head, man. You hear me? With the homie, the clown, you know. You hear me? You know what I'm saying? Like, homie don't play that. You hear me?
Starting point is 00:42:59 What you don't know, in case you don't know, I'm going to be honest with you. You have probably the most support on the streets. You probably didn't see it. Your people probably saw it. Yeah. Your people saw it, but you probably didn't want to hear it. They was probably calling you like, they got your back on the streets. Yeah, nah, nah, nah, facts, facts.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Nah, I was seeing it. I was hearing about it. You know what I'm saying? And I was feeling it. Brian ain't going to lie, facts. I was seeing it. I was hearing about it. You know what I'm saying? And I was feeling it. Brian ain't going to lie, bro. The fans, like, man, the fans was incredible on my bed, man. You know what I mean? Like, I used to get hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of letters, you know what I mean, from fans just telling me, you know, keep your head up.
Starting point is 00:43:41 You know we with you. You know, stay focused. We can't wait till you get home, like, you know, sending me cards, pictures, and like, like, that's, that, that alone, you know, kept me motivated, you know what I mean, I used to get more love from fans than motherfuckers that, you know, I knew on the streets, you know what I mean, like, the, the, the fans was, was so supportive, so I'ma always, you know, just appreciate the fans and just have love for them. You know, for the love that they had for me during my period, man.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Well, let me just tell you something. We've been doing this for nine years, right? Nine years. Going into our 10th year. And I know the algorithms. And when I just tweeted out, we got BG. Let me just tell you something. Let up.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Your fans is serious. I'm just being honest. I might have to erase the tweet. I said, this is too much. This is too much. And I had to call y'all. I had to call y'all. I was like, listen, I might miss my flight.
Starting point is 00:44:43 And then they was like, we're here for you, Norby. I said, fuck, I'm making my flight. I Listen, I might miss my flight. And then they was like, we're here for you, Noria. I said, fuck, I'm making my flight. I said, I'm making my flight. I made it. Listen, anybody else, I would have probably been like, you know what I mean? 100% he would have. I would have. I would have missed it.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Yeah, I would have been like, man, fuck that. But you know what? This is 1 million percent something. I'm going to be honest with you, bro. You really deserve your flowers. Man, nah, man. Not just here, but in real life. Yeah, nah, thanks.
Starting point is 00:45:13 I done put my work in, bro. You hear me? I done put my work in, man. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? And I ain't finished. You hear me? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:45:21 I got a lot more, you know what I'm saying, to contribute, man, to the culture, man. So, you know, I'm just glad, man, that I'm free. You know that I got another shot at it, man. And, yeah, man, I'm a rep, man. I'm a rep, man. For the real, man. So let me ask you, Birdman was not asleep on stage. Nah,
Starting point is 00:45:39 hell nah. Nah, nah, nah. They said he was reading some... Yeah, nah. Alright, so you, come on, bro. You didn't do the Rain of Days. Yeah, I did a lot of them. So you know when. The set list, right? When they had a set list taped, you know, to the floor and the list of songs and, you know, what's coming up next. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:45:58 He's reading, seeing what's coming up next. He just got caught from a bad angle. You know what I'm saying? He got caught from a bad angle and then I pull up on some, you know, just, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:11 hyping him. No, hyping him, you know, on some wipe me down, you know, just on some, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:46:16 It looks like you pushed him out the way. It looks funny, but nah, Ron wasn't sleep, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like,
Starting point is 00:46:24 Ron ain't never did a hard drug ever, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, Ron ain't never did a hard drug ever, man You know what I'm saying? He used to be on us I done seen shit on the internet About him being on fentanyl And him being on this And being on that, bro
Starting point is 00:46:34 And we had a good laugh about it Like, we jostled off it You know what I'm saying? I jostled off him Like, we jostled off each other But yeah, nah, he was reading the song list Okay, because you know what? I'm going to we just love each other. But yeah, nah, he was reading the song list. Okay, because you know what? I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:46:48 It looked like it was finally y'all time to be the big homies. That's what it looked like. It looked like Lil Wayne was like, let's go, nigga. That's what it looked like. I'm like, I'm sorry. I don't look in that hand. So I'm looking like. And this ain't me
Starting point is 00:47:07 Just trying to clean it up I'm just being 100% real with it, man He was reading the song list, man You know what I mean? Because I have to gaze down there at times Because it's still probably an hour Damn near two hours for real You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:47:18 We got the first Cash Money set Bam, then Wayne come out Then bam, then Wayne bring us back out, you know, for the hot boy set, you know what I mean? So it's, it's, you know what I'm saying? By the time, it's probably like a two-hour set, you know what I mean? So you know, it's, it's, yeah,
Starting point is 00:47:36 man, like, like, and, and motherfuckers just be trying to make sure I know what's coming up next, you know what I'm saying? So I got to be on point. Yeah, so you look at, I know that. Yeah, nah, facts. I know that, because I be like that, too. You know what I mean? Yeah, big gotta be on point yeah so you look and i think yeah yeah i know that because i'll be like that too you know what i mean yeah it's a big fact you know when you look at this and they got a teleprompter right that's what they got the teleprompter yes but then you got the list you know i'm saying tape to the floor so it's like five sheets with all the song with probably about 10 songs on each, you know what I'm saying, sheet.
Starting point is 00:48:06 And you know, Ron just got caught up reading the list, bro. And it just looked like, and they cut that out. I like how you keep calling it Ron. I like how you keep calling it Ron. You know I'm catching on. That probably was some shit.
Starting point is 00:48:17 You know what I'm saying? So, nah, but it's all great with old man. He ain't about nothing, man. Like, you know, he ain't tripping. He like, man, all press is good press. We ain't tripping. It's hilarious. The arena's still selling out.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And we going to keep getting this bag, and it is what it is. Let's make some noise for that. All right. So we're going to play a game. You want to explain the rules? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:43 We're going to bring a... Who's drinking over here? Okay, because he's not drinking. Nah, I got this little Kool-Aid right here. So who is your designated drinker? You've got to have somebody from New Orleans. Designated drinker from the end. Oh, damn, bro. None of my niggas drink.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Or Sonny D will happily eat. Who you want? Oh, you want? Oh, man. Big Boobie Black. Come on. Big Boobie Black. Big Boobie Black. BWA's Chapa City.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Chapa City? Yeah. Chapa City. And Charlie just want to drink. He love BJ's. Charlie? Let's go. He love Magnolia Gangsta right still, man.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Yes. You heard me. Big specs. Big specs. All right. I'm not going to lie to you. Me going to Magnolia might have been the illest thing I've ever witnessed. Bro, this is a Magnolia legend right here.
Starting point is 00:49:38 I've never seen a hood like Magnolia. Magnolia is a different place. He went to the old Magnolia, too. They call it the middle of the world. They call it what? The middle of the world. The middle of the world. I agree.
Starting point is 00:49:55 No, I went to the 1998 Magnolia. I went to the 97. When the bricks was up. When the bricks was up. I was there like this. And then I went to where? Where's he murder from? The Cal up. I was dead like this. And then I went to, where's the murder from? The Calio. I went to the Calio, and I said, why are you living here?
Starting point is 00:50:11 Okay, so you're going to drink. I'm going to drink? Yeah. Okay. He good, he good. Okay. All right, so we ready? Who got the questions?
Starting point is 00:50:23 All right, so we're going to give you two choices. Okay. If you pick one, we not drinking, but we're going to give you two choices. Okay. If you pick one, we're not drinking. But if you don't pick, we're drinking. This is a horrible first question. So this is for me or him? It's for you. All right, so I go.
Starting point is 00:50:33 He's a designated drinker. Oh, so he did that. All right. All right. So we're giving you two names. If you pick one, we're not drinking. All right, all right. If you say both of them, then neither.
Starting point is 00:50:44 But you know, we want stories. It's really about bringing up any stories you got. All right, Ben neither. You know, we want stories. It's really about bringing up any stories. Let's get it. I pick one we drink. Tell us a story if you have one with them. If you pick, we're not drinking, though. I'm going to ask the first one because
Starting point is 00:50:59 I definitely... Let me just say it, and then I'll say it. I bet. Soldier Slim or Tupac? Soldier Slim. I definitely want a Soldier Slim story. Soldier Slim.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Okay. Soldier Slim. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, at the end of the day, man, you know, Soldier Slim like our New Orleans Tupac, man. You know what I mean? That is the New Orleans Tupac. You know, now, big facts, like, you know, one of the realest niggas that ever done it, you know what I mean? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:51:27 You know, when it come down to, I got a million, you know what I'm saying? So just some stories, man. But, you know what I mean? Wasn't he supposed to do an album together? He did an album together. Okay, okay. But it ended up getting leaked, man. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:51:39 Like, folks also, it was unofficial when it came out. Man, we had just finished recording it, man. And when he got killed, it was in his Cadillac truck, right? You know what I mean? The album was in his Cadillac truck? Yeah, he was listening to it. It was on the disc. You know, back then we had CDs or whatever.
Starting point is 00:51:56 You know what I'm saying? So the disc was literally in his CD player, right? So when he jumped out the truck, he left the car door open. And the truck ended up being part of the crime scene. So they ended up throwing his truck to the motherfucking pound, you know, to the police, whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:16 And, you know, somebody from there stole a disc, you know, out the front. So the disc wound up being evidence. And now that, man, whoever stole the truck out the police pound ended up leaking it, bro. And next thing you know, that bitch just sprayed it like wildfire, man. That's crazy. And fucked our whole bag up.
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Starting point is 00:56:52 on Apple Podcasts. You know what I mean? Fuck. Yeah, man. I was about to make some noise for that, but then I thought about it. No, no, that's not me. Nah, but it's cool, though,
Starting point is 00:57:07 because a lot of people don't know, we still got some, we still got a, because I'm going to go back in there and retouch that joint up a little bit, and then there's some unreleased songs, you know, that we have, so I'm going to still put out a BGN Soldier Slim album,
Starting point is 00:57:20 you know, somewhere in the near future, man. That's a fact. And would that be on Choppa City Records? Or would that be on? That would be on Cutthroat. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, his mama, Lil Soulja Sam, you know, Lil Peaches, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:34 they still running Cutthroat Committee. So it would definitely be a joint project. You know what I'm saying? Yo, yo. A lot of y'all ain't understanding what he just said. He's making sure. He's taking care.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Yeah. This is why I love this. There ain't a lot of niggas. Listen. Trust me. I'm taking a shot. Juvenile Wayne. Take a shot. I'm taking the shot. Juvenile Wayne. Take a shot. Hey, don't need the witness.
Starting point is 00:58:09 I'm saying, but Juvenile said it still, man. We easy to go, man. So both, we drinking. Nah, facts. We still drinking. No, no. He said both. We drinking. Jay-Z or DMX? DMX.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Okay. Tell us why. Oh, man, bro. DMX. Okay, tell us why. Oh, man, bro. DMX is different, bro. That raw, you know. And you was on tour with him. And on tour with Jay-Z, too. That tour is insane. You know, DMX just remind me of me, bro. Because, you know, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:41 I could have easily been DMX story. You know what I mean? Like, you know, I didn't OD before. You know, woke up in the hospital. You know, tubes all in me and the whole nine yards. But, you know, I mean, I relate to Jay-Z 100%. But, man, X just, bro, he had the whole world barking. Woo!
Starting point is 00:59:03 Woo! You know what I'm saying? I'm like, X just, whole world balking. Woo! Woo! You know what I'm saying? I agree. X just got a... You can feel his pain through the music. Yeah, nah, you can feel the pain through the music. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, bro, I'm going to go X, bro.
Starting point is 00:59:19 And there's no shade to J. I love shade. Like, I'm a super J fan, but I'm going to go X, bro. I got to go X. And what date you was born? September? September 3rd, 1980. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:29 My 80s, baby. And guess what date Soulja Slim was born? September 9th. Guess what date I'm born? September 6th. Big Virgo vibes. Big Virgo vibes, nigga. So you're the third, I'm the sixth
Starting point is 00:59:45 and this nigga's the ninth we gotta do a burger party oh a big party I wasn't ready for that I'm wearing a burger party in New Orleans let's go let's get it
Starting point is 00:59:56 let's get it let's get it let's get it let's get it I'm just looking like you know bring out the Spanish community that's right
Starting point is 01:00:03 you know bring out the Latino community you know bring out the Spanish community That's right You know I'll bring out The Latino community Come on bro You know I'll bring out The Latino community I got you I got you Let's get it
Starting point is 01:00:10 Let's get it We locked in Locked it in We locked in for Verbal party No ring No shizzle It's official
Starting point is 01:00:19 And that's what it is Now I'm hype Now I'm hype I'm starting to sweat Shit's coming out I mean Yeah Yeah Yeah Y'all shouldn't even Have done this one And that's what it is. Now I'm hyped. Now I'm hyped. I'm starting to sweat. Shit's coming at me. But good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Yeah. Yeah. Y'all shouldn't even have done this one. Okay, my bad. What is this? Birdman or Master P? Birdman. Come on.
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Starting point is 01:00:47 Turk or sea murder? Ah, I got to go with the Brody T. game, man. You know what I mean? I like that. I like that. That's the wrong team, man. You know what I mean? I love the loyalty. Man, free sea murder, man.
Starting point is 01:01:01 You know what I mean? Big facts. I love, I love. Yeah, loyalty, man. Yeah. Big fags. I'm like, I love, I love big fags. Y'all loyalty, man. I love that it got shaky for a second, but I love the fact that y'all all picked it up together
Starting point is 01:01:13 and said, you know what? Yeah. Yeah. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Let's get it.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Fiend or currency? Oh, man. Damn. And you look, you can take a shot just in case That's why he here Just let me know
Starting point is 01:01:30 What you want to do I got your back You heard me I got your back baby He's like Please just drink Nah for real Cause I'm a
Starting point is 01:01:39 I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a fiend fan And I'm a currency fan Like like both of them my bros. You hear me? You a new all this nigga.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Let's just be clear. Damn, bro, that's crazy. I'll take a shot for you. I'll take a shot for you. This ain't cool. You're like a Brooklyn nigga. This is Brooklyn niggas can't choose. Man, I got to go fiend, bro.
Starting point is 01:02:09 You know what I'm saying? I got to go fiend, man. You can't reverse that shot. Me and fiend go way back like jumping jacks. Right, right, right. And he was also on No Limit. Yeah, facts. hey, me and Fiend go way back like jumping jacks. Right, right, right. And he was also on No Limit. Yeah, facts. Okay, facts, facts.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Cumbersy was on Cash Money. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Big facts, man. Both of them the bros, man. Me and Cumbersy, me and Fiend just rapped. Matter of fact, Fiend on my new album, Freedom of Speech. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:39 You know what I'm saying? We just rapped a video together about two weeks ago. And me and Cumbersy, you know what I'm saying? We just rapped a video about a month or two ago. you know what I'm saying? We just wrapped a video about a month or two ago, you know what I mean? Man, both of them are my bros. I love them bro. Man, they bro for all the motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:02:53 So I got to ask. This is for me. As a New Yorker, we thought that you can't be cool with No Limit and Cash money. That's what we thought. No, I'm just being honest, right? What's wrong?
Starting point is 01:03:10 I mean, there might have been a time that that could be true, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a time. It wasn't straight. It was at one point. It was a time where you definitely had to pick a side, right? You know what I mean? Especially in the city, right?
Starting point is 01:03:21 You know what I mean? Because there was a lot of street politics involved. You know what I mean? Especially in the city, right? You know what I mean? Because there was a lot of street politics involved. You know what I'm saying? It was, you know, because, you know, they had an entourage of, you know, super goons and super killers around them. And, you know, we had an entourage of super goons and super killers around us. They really, you know. That sounds like a super problem. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:03:42 I know exactly what you mean. It makes sense. I know exactly what you mean. It makes sense. And, you know, and it was real street beef involved. Like, you know, where it was, you know, bloodshed. Like, you know, like, during the,
Starting point is 01:03:58 you know, the mid-90s and you know, all that. So, you know, that shit could have got dangerous. Like, that shit was, you know, all that. So, you know, that shit could have got dangerous. Like, that shit was, you know, dangerous. So we kind of, you know, yeah, man. Yeah. So, I mean, at that time, could you not work with a No Limit artist?
Starting point is 01:04:18 I mean, no, we wasn't. I mean, yeah, back then in the beginning I way and what an anyone does you know say like even though you know we had our relationships you know me like I said yeah we had our relationship on the side but just you know just you know me I mean I think you know you know baby got a big Super Eagle you know P got a big Super Eagle you know what I mean? And, you know, even if we wanted to work together, them niggas wouldn't have cleared that shit. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:04:49 You know what I mean? You know what I mean? I'm just keeping it all the way real. I interviewed Baby, and I interviewed Master P, and they answered the same. They're like, not really. Nah, it wasn't.
Starting point is 01:05:03 But now, though, it's more, you know, a friendlier vibe. Niggas didn't grow up. You know, niggas didn't evolve. Like, you know, niggas on some, you know, just some grown-up shit. Like, and, yeah, it's a whole different vibe now. But back then, no, it wasn't safe. It wasn't, yeah, nah, it wasn't the way it was. So let me ask you a personal question.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Would you have wanted to change that back then? Like, if there was a person you wanted to work with? It was Soldier Slim, Mac, Mirax. Yeah, man. Mr. Gould? Soldier Slim, Mac, Mirax. You know, I fuck with Mr. Gical, you know what I'm saying? But Soldier Slim, Mac, and Mia X?
Starting point is 01:05:50 Mia X is a fucking juice. Yeah, that would have been the top three, you know what I mean, that I would have wanted to work with. And you couldn't at that time. And, yeah, no, we wasn't even. You know what I mean? Y'all wasn't crossing the line. Yeah, nah, it wasn't even a thought in nobody's head. Like, it wasn't happening. It wasn't even what he said it's his face his face what you want me to do
Starting point is 01:06:12 that's real that's not for real that's loyalty though i'm gonna be honest with you um i worked with cash money very early on. Big fix. And y'all all came to the studio together and y'all all left the studio together. Nah, you're one move off. I respected that. And I'm going to be honest with you.
Starting point is 01:06:37 It's the first time I realized that you could put five pieces of pork on pizza. These niggas had ham, bacon. They had all the time. I was like, damn, how can you fit all that in a pizza? They call that motherfucker the meatloaf, you know? And I'm looking at Fabulous, and Fabulous is like,
Starting point is 01:07:03 yo, man, Lil Wayne came to my studio session And he He did a hundred A hundred thousand dollars worth of bottles And he left I was like Damn nigga He ain't do that to me
Starting point is 01:07:13 But them niggas Them niggas They own a lot of pork in my building But What a side note No Okay Come on Let's go to the next one Let's go to the next one Get it What a side note. Okay, come on. Let's go to the next one.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Let's go to the next one. Get it. 400 Degrees or the Carter. Man, why you going to trap me? Yeah, we trying to get your homie drunk. We don't know. We trying to get your homie drunk. Hey, both of them Joneses, classy. Let me take this one.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Let me take mine. Let me take one. Don't answer that one, let me go to the next one, bro. Hey, hey. I got you, baby. Nah, that was, hey, hey, hey. This thing still wouldn't answer. This thing like, why is it?
Starting point is 01:08:02 I'm thinking about it. You focus. Go ahead. I'm still answering. But I'm just like, damn. Bro, like, bro, that's a whole pillar swelling right there. But you ain't got an answer. You're here.
Starting point is 01:08:14 I ain't got an answer. That's very difficult. Yeah, nah, be quick, man. Come on. You had the next one. Let's go. Jada Kiss or Nas? Jada Kiss, man.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Kiss, man. Kiss. That kiss in my top five did a lot, man. Okay. I'm taking a shot for that. You know what I mean? I'm not supposed to, right? Man, kiss in my top five did a lot.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Tell me who I do whatever I want. That's a fact. Hey, who been fucking with Kiss? Man, what nigga, man. What? Real shit. You know what I mean? Yeah, Kiss.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Kiss, one of the hardest niggas. I just want to get this nigga drunk again. Come on. He ready. Let's go. He want to get drunk. He's like, it could be nothing against nothing. He's like, BG, you picking too much.
Starting point is 01:09:01 You're picking too much. He want to get drunk. Come on. That mean I'm getting them right or something when y'all ain't got to whop that joke? When I whop that joke, you ain't got to say nothing. All right, all right, all right, all right. You're taking a foot. You're taking a foot, yo.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Because you know Larry and him, they from the gang. You ain't hearing no shit. He's ready. I'm ready with him. Let's go. Mia X or Shauna? Mia X. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:28 We need Mia X, man. Yeah, no, no. We need the legend. But Mia X is a legend, man. Super legend. She's a lyrical beast. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm talking about she come up in that, you know, that Missy, you know, or Eve.
Starting point is 01:09:43 You know, that whole era right there of females when they was really, you heard me? When they was really rapping. You know what I'm saying? When they was really, yeah, nah, man. Yeah, that's the truth, man. You know what I mean? Yeah, I fuck with me.
Starting point is 01:09:55 I fuck with me. That's why I love this. He know his hip hop. Of course. He know his hip hop. He's exactly correct. Here, continue. Rough Riders or Rockefeller?
Starting point is 01:10:05 Y'all was on a tour with them both. Be very careful because your man want to drink. And I want to drink too. Don't do it. Think about it. The whole New York is watching this. Please. Please be careful.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Come on. The United States. Come on, man. Rest in peace, X. I got to go with. I got to go with Rough Riders. I love this. I love this. You know what I'm saying? Come on, man. Rest in peace, X. I got to go with the Rattas. I love this. I love this. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:10:29 Come on, y'all. Come on, y'all. Rest in peace, X, man. Rest in peace, X, man. So we should drink for X. We should drink for X. Big facts. Big facts.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Big facts. Big facts. And you was on tour with X. Yeah, absolutely, man. Like, Cash Money, Ruff Rattas tour with me. You know, Juvie, Weezy. You know, Hot Yeah, absolutely, man. Like, Cash Money Rough Riders tour with me, you know, Juvie, Weezy, you know, Hot Boys, Big Timers, DMX, Eve, The Lox, Dragon,
Starting point is 01:10:52 Swiss. No, that was a crazy tour. I'm talking about two dates that I do. No, I'm talking about when I say, you know, we, we, we, we, I think, I think we started off in, in, in, in New York and ended in Cali. We cross country that joint.
Starting point is 01:11:09 And when I tell you, that was one of the best tours that I've ever been on. That's one of the best hip hop tours in ever. Big thanks. Cash Money, Rough Rider, Rockefeller Tour. It was one of the best hip hop tours in life. I think I only did two dates. I don't even think they actually invited me.
Starting point is 01:11:31 I think I just showed up. I think it was one of those. And then when they realized it, it was like, you're not invited back. This nigga's funny, man. There's no offense to it. I feel like I was like, dad. But dad.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Because they're like, nigga, we already got enough hood niggas here. Hey, hey, that's young. I ain't going to lie, though. That's young. That's young. That shit was. That shit was. I think Ja Rule was on a few dates.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Me and Ja Rule. Me. Benzino, me. You know what I'm saying? Was on a few dates. You on point. You on point You on point
Starting point is 01:12:05 Listen I only made two dates I was so evil I was like I can't get invited And they said no Because I mean
Starting point is 01:12:15 I'm going to be honest That was ill Cash money Let me give cash money They motherfucking props They motherfucking Came out and destroyed And at this time
Starting point is 01:12:31 People did not understand What the south was Yeah nah facts They did not understand And These motherfuckers came out We knew what it was in the south Yeah nah
Starting point is 01:12:41 Cause it was It was I'm just saying, you have like all the people that go to the South, nigga, they're awake because they're in the United States.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Because no, it was true, it was true. For real though, we had to go back because it was certain cities where, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:55 the rock, you know what I'm saying, closed out. It closed out. And then it was certain cities, Rough Riders. We had to close out because they couldn't
Starting point is 01:13:03 come behind us. the Midwest, the South. That's what was genius about that tour. couldn't come behind us. The Midwest, the South. That's what was genius about that tour. You know, that East Coast side, that whole, you know, that you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. And I didn't even understand all that back then.
Starting point is 01:13:17 You know, motherfuckers want to go first. Motherfuckers want to go last. Motherfuckers want to go out. Let me just perform, the money ain't gonna change, give me the time, I'm up there, you'ma knock this shit out,
Starting point is 01:13:29 we outta here, you know what I'm saying, but, yeah, nah, man, man, you know,
Starting point is 01:13:34 cause they had an incredible show, you know, we had an incredible show, you know what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, we pull out the helicopters, you know what I'm saying, and you know,
Starting point is 01:13:42 the whole, busting out the road, you know what I'm saying, and then X, you know, I'm saying? And, you know, the whole busting out the road, you know what I'm saying? And then X, you know, coming out in the motherfucking cage. You being humble, you being humble, but I'm not going to be humble for you.
Starting point is 01:13:51 And, and, and. That was one of the best hip hop tours ever. Nah. Ever. Just being humble. Nah, nah. I fuck with you, but.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Thanks. I fuck with you in the most beautiful way ever because you're being humble. And I respect that. Nah, it's so dope, man. But that's the best hip hop. That's one of the best hip hop doors ever. Nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 01:14:11 It was super dope, bro. I beg to be back on that show. It was super dope, man. I ain't never been. That's one of the highlights of my career, for real. I only was on three dates, and one of the highlights of my career for real. Like, I only was on three dates and it's a highlight of my career. So,
Starting point is 01:14:29 okay, good, next one. Let's see what we got here. Mack or Mr. Servant? Mack! Fuck is you talking about? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:14:38 You know what I'm saying? Shell Shock is a classic. You know what I'm saying? Like, Mack, Mack is like our Nas. You know what I mean? Like, man, ain't nobody.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Man, lyrically. Like, lyrically. Like, man, that nigga Mac. Man, you ever listen to Shellshock? Or any of his, like, man, Mac is one of the best lyricists. Like, I'm talking about Mac. I don't give a fuck. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Period. We ain't got a Silk of the Shocker question in there? You got in there? You know Silk of the Shocker beat me in every category ever in the Social Wars. And he reminds us every time. I tell him that too
Starting point is 01:15:17 every time I see Silk of the Shocker. Nigga beat me in every category. Oh yeah. When you hear this what? 1998. The best year of my life.
Starting point is 01:15:26 How the fuck Silk of the Shockaka Bibi in every category? They tell you why. Nigga, I still got beef with Benzino to this day. I just argue with him for no reason. Nigga, you laugh. Chaka Bibi. I'm sorry. I'm going crazy.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Go ahead. Manny Fresh or KLC? Manny Fresh. I'm answering that. And I'm going to take a shot for that. I ain't going to lie, though, bro. That's a drop. You heard me?
Starting point is 01:15:50 He said both. Let's drink to that. Yeah, we drink to that. You know what I'm saying? Let's drink to that. You ain't even got to ask it. You ain't got to ask it. It's a drop.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Okay, my bad. I ain't even about to go there. I got your back, bro. You heard me? That's a drop. You know what I'm saying? My bad. Yeah, man. You know, I ain't even about to go there. I got your back, girl. You hear me? That's a drop. You hear me? My bad.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Yeah, man. You know, I love Fresh to death, man. Fresh created my sound. You know, he, he, he, you know, I never rapped on another beat outside of Man It Fresh till like I was on my sixth solo album. You know what I mean? Like Man It Fresh produced every song that I ever recorded on from, you know, True Story, Chava City, it's all on you, Volume 1, all on you, Volume 2.
Starting point is 01:16:31 You know, Chava City, the ghetto, Checkmate, you know. And when I left Cash Money, that's when I started, you know, working with other producers and, you know, vibing with other producers and, you know, just getting on other sounds and vibing with other producers and just getting on other sounds and just whatever, whatever. So Fresh is near and dear to my heart. I love him and everything that he done for me. My biggest records, you know what I mean, is his many Fresh records, you know what I
Starting point is 01:17:03 mean? It's Manning Fresh Records, you know what I mean? But, man, KLC is a legend too in our city, man. And KLC then created some hot-ass records for me too, like the Don't Talk To Me. And I love both of them, bro. They both my brothers, man. So, you know, I'm just going for it. I'm going to take another shot for that. That's just it. That's it. Go for it, man.
Starting point is 01:17:29 I already took a shot. Look, I got 30 motherfuckers over here. I'm going to take a shot for that. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I'm good. I got you, bro. We going to vibe tonight. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:17:43 Let's get it. All right. Get it how you live or guerrilla warfare? Guerrilla warfare. Hands down. Guerrilla warfare, man. Hands down, man. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:17:53 Like, you know, get it how you live. You know, that was, you know, that's... That's the Hot Boys album, right? That's the first Hot Boys album. Okay. And then guerrilla warfare is, you know, the second Hot Boys album. But that guerr Warfare different. You know what I mean? Don't get me wrong, get it how you live, hot, and that's your
Starting point is 01:18:12 jamming, but you could pop that Gorilla Warfare and just let them- It looks like y'all were partners there. Nah, we had all found our swag, found our flow, found our vibe. Like, yeah, that guerrilla warfare, him. Mm-hmm. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else.
Starting point is 01:18:48 Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian, Dr. Randall Williams, and bestselling author and meat eater founder, Stephen Ranella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 01:19:28 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And it's going to take us to heal us. It's Mental Health Awareness Month, and on a recent episode of Just Heal with Dr. J, the incomparable Taraji P. Henson stopped by to discuss how she's discovered peace on her journey. So what I'm hearing you saying is healing is a part of us also reconnecting to our childhood in some sort. You said I look how youthful I look because I never let that little girl inside of me die. I go outside and run outside with the dogs.
Starting point is 01:20:01 I still play like a kid. I laugh. You know, I love jokes. I love funny. I love laughing. I laugh at myself. I don't take myself too seriously. That's the stuff that keeps you young and stops you from being so hard. To hear this and more things on the journey of healing, you can listen to Just Heal with Dr. J from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. AT&T, connecting changes everything. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun?
Starting point is 01:20:41 Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad.
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Starting point is 01:21:44 And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.
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Starting point is 01:22:40 And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Yeah, because I have so much more. Go, man, go. No, you know why? Because you know why? Actually, looking from outside or looking in, I got to see, from outside or looking in. I got to see, from outside, I'm looking in. I got to see y'all grow.
Starting point is 01:23:09 And I got to see y'all grow individually. Right, right, right. To tell you the truth, being honest, I love Wayne. I didn't see Wayne being a superstar at that time. Yeah, nah, facts. A lot of people feel that way. I didn't see that. a superstar at that time. Yeah, nah, facts. A lot of people feel that way. I didn't see that. He was a little kid.
Starting point is 01:23:28 Like, he was a little baby. I'm not saying he wasn't a superstar. But he was. Yeah. And, you know, just to do what he was able to do without the cursing and, you know, to keep up with us is, you know, you know, Drew was a little older than, you know what I'm saying, all of us. You know what I mean? And, you know, I was a little mad child.
Starting point is 01:23:48 He had a mean face. You know what I mean? But, you know, Wayne was really the little broski, man. Like, you know, we did everything we could to, you know, just protect him and keep him. But, you know, he was right there just, you know, witnessing it all. You know what I'm saying? You know, I was out there wild and doing this, doing that, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:24:08 Like, but, man, that was, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, he got to see it, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, and he just was able to just, man, just, you know, take something from each and every last one of us. He used to hear so many stories, witness so many events, you know, take something from each and every last one of us. He used to hear so many stories, witness so many events, you know, be around so much action, you know, at a young age without having to be in. Like he flipped it creatively. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:35 But let me ask you something. At one point when he said everyone left, everyone left cash money, and then he said that he held it down. How did you feel when he said that? Because, I mean, you know, when we just, you know, restarted it and, you know, the UNLV days was over, the Slim days was over, the Miss T, you know what I'm saying, all that, and it was just me. You know what I mean? And Baby was like, man, here, you know what I'm saying? You know, we're going to put the label on your back, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:25:21 It's your turn, you know what I mean, it's your turn, you know what I mean, and, you know, we, we, we came with the, and, and, and it used to be a gangster bounce label, like, where it was, you know, you know, bounce records, you know, mixed with a little gangster shit, but, you know, that, that Chopper City album was, like, the first, you know, real hip-hop album, you know, on, on, on cash money records, and, and, and, and it took off, you know, the way that it took off. So, you know, I understand, you know, the pressure, you know, and everything, you know, that was on his shoulders because I had it on mine, you know, at 16. Because at one point it was all on you. It was only me.
Starting point is 01:26:01 You know, the Hot Boys was built around me and you, you know what I mean? But really me like you know the hot boys was built around me yep and and and you know what i mean but but but really me you know what i mean so yeah man like like like because i was already yeah yeah i was already four albums in you know what i mean so you know i was well established you know as a solo artist you know what i mean and then bam we built the hot boys and you know that deal what it did and then you know juvie you know already you know was a solo but it's just you know that hot boy shit just really was able to you know showcase us you know as as individual artists and as a you know solid group and just you know push that unity you know that
Starting point is 01:26:47 we was you know what I'm saying pushing at that time and um yeah man yeah I think uh damn man like just going but just you know just thinking back and just reliving
Starting point is 01:27:03 all that it's just like you guys and every other label was you actually have four albums. Yeah, yeah. I think Wayne had like two albums. I think Julie. For the High Boys? No, I did. Oh, no, not one.
Starting point is 01:27:18 He had one album, right? He had a mixtape. Nah, he got nine. He got his first. Oh, no. You know, that's crazy. You know what I mean? Wayne was a group. he had a mixtape nah he got nah he got his first oh no you know that's damn
Starting point is 01:27:27 that's crazy you know me and Wayne was a group called the BGs you know what I'm saying the first the first
Starting point is 01:27:33 the first BGs album was me and Wayne as a group you know what I'm saying and then you know
Starting point is 01:27:41 God bless the dead rest in peace the rabbit you know when God bless the dead, rest in peace to Rabbit. You know, when, before Rabbit got killed, you know, he ended up, you know, he wanted to invest in Wayne himself. And, you know, put, you know, Wayne out, you know what I'm saying, himself. So he ended up, you know, taking Wayne from Cash Money. And then that's when, when you know Baby and Slim decided to just drop the Z
Starting point is 01:28:07 and just call me BG. You know what I mean? So that's where the BG come from. You know what I'm saying? Because me and Wayne started as a group called the BGs, Baby Gangsters. You know what I'm saying? And then when Rabbit ended up getting killed,
Starting point is 01:28:24 Miss C, the... That's baby brother of Rabbit? Nah, Rabbit, nah, that's Wayne's stepdad. Okay. That's what Wayne always talking about in the songs. You know what I'm saying? Rest in peace, Rabbit. Yeah, that's his stepdad. So, once when Rabbit
Starting point is 01:28:39 got killed, you know, Miss Cedar ended up, you know, letting Wayne, you know, come back to the label, and then that's when we, you know, Miss Cedar ended up, you know, letting Wayne you know, come back to the label and then that's when we, you know, formed the Hot Boys. Thanks. You got more? Yeah, we got a lot more.
Starting point is 01:28:59 I got a lot more. Boys in the Hood or Menace to Society? Ah, fuck, man. Menace to society. Hood niggas always have a problem with this. Menace to society.
Starting point is 01:29:10 Hood niggas always have menace to society. Well, old dog? That's old dog? Bro, that's what everybody thought they was old dog. Everybody want to be old dog.
Starting point is 01:29:19 I want to grow the little roots and all that. I'm trying to grow right now. That was funny. I ain't gonna grow right now. That was funny. I ain't gonna lie though, like, like, like, like,
Starting point is 01:29:29 like, like, boys in the hood got a mean message in it, you hear me? And I didn't even really get the message until years and years later. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:29:37 Like, when I was young, I didn't even really get the message that, that Lawrence Fishburne, you know, was pushing about the regentification, you know, in the hood.
Starting point is 01:29:46 You know what I mean? All right, let me stop, man. Trick Daddy or Rick Ross? Man, I got to go with Trick, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, Trick the mayor, man, of Miami, man, of Florida, period. Like, for real, for real. I think Rick Ross would pick Trick.
Starting point is 01:30:03 Like, Trick, you know, did so much, you know what I'm saying, just for Florida and just putting, you know what I'm saying, Florida on the map and just that thug holiday. Like, you know, he paved the way for niggas like Ross. You know what I mean? So I got to go with Trick, man. This nigga answered that shit correct.
Starting point is 01:30:24 I think even Rick Ross is going to watch this and be like, yep. He is correct. Clips or dog pound? I ain't got nothing to do with this one. I ain't got shit to do with this one. Damn, the clips are dog pound, man. I got to go with my dog corrupting dance. You know what I'm saying? dog pound, man. I got to go with my dog corrupt and dance.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Know what I'm saying? Bitch, you got some fine heads for a second. Bitch, you got some fine heads. Let's take a shot. Let's take a shot. Hey, that DP man, come on, man. I even think Clips
Starting point is 01:31:03 will pick dog pound over them. Come on, man. Nah, facts. I even think Clips will pick Dog Power over them. Come on, man. Nah, facts. Man, I fuck with Clips, man. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, man, I got to go with TPC, man. You got some bomb ass. Nah, that was my shit.
Starting point is 01:31:17 Hey, I told Des I want the remix of that show. You know what I mean? On my mama, I told him that. You know what I mean? I got to bring that show back. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. Your school be texting me. You be missing a lot of days.
Starting point is 01:31:31 Damn. Hold on. I'm not playing. Look, this nigga Mr. J. Look, AGJ, Thursday, 14th. Your child was missing. Look, this fucked up that you with me. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:31:50 That's how they rocked it. They texted the nigga now. You lucky you with me, but in my mind, I'm like, this nigga's fucking up. But he with me. So I'm like, damn, am I making him fuck up? That's how the school system is. They just go automatic do it.
Starting point is 01:32:11 I'm looking at this nigga like, yo, man, why you ain't go to school? He looking at me back like, I want you. I am not enjoying this. Oh, man. Would you rather be feared or loved? I'm not enjoying this. Oh, man. All right. Would you rather be feared or loved? Damn, loved, man.
Starting point is 01:32:29 Make a little match of colors. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, nice face, man. I'd rather be loved, man. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Rap City or UMTV Raps? Rap City.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Rap City. I'd come up in that Rap City era, man. You know what I'm saying? Don't get me wrong. UMTV Raps, I love. You know what I'm saying? Fair, fine, pretty. You know what I'm saying? era, man. You know what I'm saying? Don't get me wrong, UMCV raps, I love, you know what I'm saying, Fair, Fine, Freddie, you know what I'm saying? And that whole, you know what I'm saying? But I was a, I was a, I was a, I was a, you know what I'm
Starting point is 01:32:53 saying, I was a pup, you know what I'm saying? But I used to watch, you know what I'm saying, UMCV raps too, but the Rap City, the Basement, all the, you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, that's my era. Rap City, Rap City. I mean, you know what? Scarface or Ice Cube? Excuse me? on the M's and like, yeah, that's my... Yeah, Raph said it. Yeah. Scarface or Ice Cube? Excuse me?
Starting point is 01:33:10 Scarface or Ice Cube? Really? That's a good one. That's a good one. Come on, man. I know you're going to take this personally. His face. Okay. This is the diary.
Starting point is 01:33:20 Like, Mr. Scarface is back. Like... Okay, all right, all right.. Like, hold on, hold on. I love Cube. Hold on, because I start with Scarface with a diary, too. And people tell me. Ghetto Boys. People tell me I got to start with Ghetto Boys.
Starting point is 01:33:36 I'll go back to Ghetto Boys if you're going to. Big facts. Big facts. Big facts. Scarface, the diary album, is one of my favorite albums. It's one of the best albums Of all time On my mama
Starting point is 01:33:46 But it was kind of like A newer generation It was kind of like a It was on Def Jam After he signed the Def Jam So Am I wrong? Yeah nah
Starting point is 01:33:56 I think nah Nah I think nah The Diary The fix The fix The fix The fix The fix
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Starting point is 01:34:04 The fix The fix The fix The fix The fix The fix The fix The fix I'm bugging. Yeah, I'm bugging. I'm bugging. I'm bugging. I'm bugging. I'm bugging. I'm bugging. I'm bugging. I'm bugging. I'm bugging. I'm bugging. I'm bugging. Thank you. All right. Thank you for correcting me because my fans would have killed us. Nah, big facts. They'd have been like, you're a bumble. Yeah, they'd have been behind that. And the fifth look good album too on Def Jam.
Starting point is 01:34:11 That's my favorite Scarface album. Not the Diary. That was the double, right? That was the double jump, right? No, no, no. I don't think it was a double. It was one of them that was a double though.
Starting point is 01:34:22 It was. Right. Either after that or before that. It was after that. It was. Right. Either after that or before that. It was after that. It was. Okay. What was it?
Starting point is 01:34:28 Come on. Google it motherfucker. You got your phone in your hand. I think it was my homies. My dad. My homies. Yes. My homies.
Starting point is 01:34:34 The one with him and Pac. That's the one with him and Pac. Right. I think that was the double disc. That was the double disc. Yeah. Nah man. So you picking Scarface.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Yeah Scarface. Scarface. One Scarface one of the Best lyricists That ever touched him That's facts That's facts You know what I'm saying And it's over Q
Starting point is 01:34:49 I say that one of the Best lyricists No I'm saying over Q I couldn't say that I mean You know I'm a Q fan Death certificate America's most wanted
Starting point is 01:35:00 Yeah yeah yeah Q was going to Touch this nigga like Word You putting out Over Q Over Q You letting him Know Yeah you putting him Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, you're going to check this nigga like, word? He's putting that over Q, right? Over Q. He's doing that
Starting point is 01:35:07 because you know he's got a lot of money. Yeah, you're putting him on the spot. But Face is right there. Yeah, Face right there. Come on, man. Let's Q.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Nah, Face. And he never got his due because I think they look down on him from being from the South, but he's one of the best lyricists in the area. And I'm talking about like,
Starting point is 01:35:22 when it comes to storytelling, bro, don't nobody tell stories like Face. Ain't a better ghetto story than my mom's playing tricks on me. There's no better story. There's no better story. For real, bro. Like, to this day, my mom, she playing tricks on me.
Starting point is 01:35:39 Man, nah. And the video. The video was sick. And then you didn't realize, Bushwick Bill, he'll snuff you with a little arm. Bushwick Bill. That's hard. That's hard. And Willie D's have two hands.
Starting point is 01:35:51 It's hard. Nah, fake. Nah, ghetto boys, they really like, you know, it's niggas like us. They're standing on their shoulders. Yeah, they paved the way. Because, you know, you got. Were they from the third war? They were from the fifth war.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Fifth war. They were from Texas. Texas, yeah. Fifth war, Texas. Yeah, nah, fake. So that's the first time we were from the fifth ward. Fifth ward. Were they from Texas? Texas, yeah. Fifth ward, Texas. Yeah, nah, fam. So that's the first time we heard wards. Yeah, that's true. That's the first time we heard wards.
Starting point is 01:36:11 We have more wards. We have more wards than Texas. We got more wards than them, yeah. Okay, they got wards, but they don't just rep them like that. Like, they rep, you know what I mean? Okay, can y'all explain to that, to us, like people from the East Coast,
Starting point is 01:36:21 what is an actual ward? A ward is basically... That's the ghetto? Yeah, absolutely. It's like a... I wouldn't say a county, but a district. It's a district. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's the district.
Starting point is 01:36:37 Basically, it's a voting district. This is where you go to vote. You feel me? But, you know, us as street niggas, we took it. You hear me, bitch? We voting over here. This is where we at. I'm from the third wall. Come your ass over here. We voting over here. This is where the 17th wall. You hear me? Voting over here, the 8th wall. You know what I'm saying? So that's the originality
Starting point is 01:36:54 of it. Right, right. That's the originality. We took it. We took it. The streets, you know what I'm saying? We made it our own. It's my domain, bitch. Cause, like, you know Because you got some niggas rep east side, west side, north side, south side.
Starting point is 01:37:10 You know what I mean? In Atlanta, they got zone one, zone two, zone three, four, five, six. In New York, we got boroughs. Y'all got boroughs, exactly. Everywhere's got counties. You got Paris. So zone and Paris is the same thing?
Starting point is 01:37:26 Or no? No, no, no. Okay. I'm asking. I think a county and a parish is the same thing. All right, so everywhere is different. Like, counties. Like, y'all the only ones got boroughs.
Starting point is 01:37:36 We the only ones got parishes. But it's actually called a county. A borough is actually called a county. That's what I'm saying. So it's the same exact thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So a parish is a county, basically. Okay.
Starting point is 01:37:47 Yeah. I love this shit. Yeah. Come on, let's go. Swiss beats or Timbaland? Swizzy. Analog or digital? Who?
Starting point is 01:38:00 Analog or digital? Recording, if you were recording. If I was recording. Did you like it? Analog or digital recording if you were recording if i was recording did you like analog or digital so analog is more old school like you know what i'm saying and then digital is this new way i i think i'll go digital okay i'm saying this is more it's more convenient, more easy I'm going to go digital The source of XXL Shout out to Vanessa I got the book XXL White girl Vanessa
Starting point is 01:38:33 Shout out to Vanessa Shout out to Vanessa Vanessa said she been rocking with me since day one, man. She got a big picture swimming home. She used to ride me when I was in jail and all that, man. Vanessa, man, that's my homie, man. I got to go double X it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:38:57 So who are you? Mystical or Magic? Mystical or Magic? Damn. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, lyrically and just, yeah, I got to go mystical. Yeah. I love the New Orleans love. I love when you interview a person from New Orleans, it's just like I'm interviewing a Brooklyn person.
Starting point is 01:39:26 They love other New Orleans. Let me finish my drink, though. Was Mystical from New Orleans? I thought he was from outside of New Orleans. Mystical from New Orleans. Kevin Gates or Boosie? That's a good one. I drank to it.
Starting point is 01:39:46 You ain't got to answer that. You ain't got to answer that. I'm going to drink to that. Hey, hey, hey. Let's drink on that. You feel me? Y'all ready? Let's drink on that.
Starting point is 01:39:57 Shout out to Gates. Shout out to Boosie, man. Who would he say? Kevin Gates or Boosie? Yeah, Boosie. Okay. Yeah, we're going to keep that right there. This is how I'm doing. That's fire.ie. Okay. Yeah, we're going to keep that right there. This is the house, dog.
Starting point is 01:40:07 That's fire. Definitely. Listen, man. Tell us. Bro, when I first came home, you know, Gator was one of the first dudes to, you know, feature me, you know what I'm saying, on a big record. That's right. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, shoot a video with me.
Starting point is 01:40:29 You know what I'm saying? Give me a shot. You you know i'm saying like you know shoot a video with me you know what i'm saying give me a shot you know what i'm saying to you know just just just just get back out there you know what i'm saying he pulled up at the video shoot numbs and like you know slapped 20 grand in my hand like man here man welcome home man it's for you you know what i'm saying it's just awesome. You know, super, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, like, like one of the realest niggas, you know what I'm saying? I love Kevin Gates. Shout out to my brother Kevin Gates. Shout out to Gates.
Starting point is 01:40:54 Shout out to Gates. You know what I'm saying? And, man, I love Gates, man. And Boosie, man, when I was locked up, you know what I'm saying? Boo used to, you know, look out for my mama for me up you know i'm saying boo used to you know look out for my mama for me you know holidays and mother's days and you know whatever i needed or whatever i called and asked him for you know i'm saying he sent it for me you know i'm saying he used to buy me cell phones in that johnny you know i'm saying the whole nine yards so we're not picking when they i can't you're we're not i love both of my brothers we're not picking. I can't. You heard me. I love both of my brothers. We're not picking.
Starting point is 01:41:25 We're drinking. We're drinking again. I love both of my brothers. We're drinking again. This nigga trying to get me drunk for real, bro. This nigga right here. Let's drink again. Let's go. I told you.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Let's go. What's the point? We celebrating. Let me tell you something. We celebrating BG. I really, really, really want to give you flowers, brother. Thank you, bro. I appreciate it, bro.
Starting point is 01:41:51 That's love, man. That's love. There ain't a lot of real people in this game. And when I know the real people in this game, and I can recognize them, and I can see that they deserve their flowers, I have to do that. This is what this show is about. And I spoke
Starting point is 01:42:09 to you, was it you, on the phone? Oh, that big Alvina. Let's give it up for Alvina. You want me from the same place? I know you from the same place because my heart is there with you. So I know that.
Starting point is 01:42:25 So when I called yesterday, I don't know if you know. No. Okay. I called yesterday and I said, yo, let me tell you something. There ain't a lot of people. And then they said, yo, you know, federal parole or whatever, because I think you're still on federal parole. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I still got a few months left.
Starting point is 01:42:46 And I said, fuck that. I'm dead in my vacation. Did my brother come and cut me up? I don't even know. I don't even know. You still on vacation? My grades was crazy.
Starting point is 01:43:01 I was like, I can't be out here. I was doing a BG interview with all my grades out here. I'm sorry. Let me get my barber. Yeah. But again, I promise you, I really sincerely want you to understand how much you mean to the rap game. Nah, man. Thank you, bro. to understand how much you how much you mean to the rap game nah man thank you bro and i know you
Starting point is 01:43:26 don't know because sometimes like i'm saying it and you just sitting there and you like because i'm just so humble like and just so laid back and cool and but you know what i mean can i not be humble for you yeah can i be like the guy for you um me and uh my partner that's right here um we want to give people they they flowers while they're alive no if you want to get these flowers where they can smell them facts the trees why they can't inhale them they thought that they can think of yeah they drinks what they can drink We got more. We will not stop what we're doing. Man, I got your back, man. If I said I got your back, I got your back.
Starting point is 01:44:16 He's like, you got more shit. You got more questions. What's my nigga name again? Boobie. We got you, Boobie. I ain't going to lie to you. Boobie might come with me later. We should go to the fucking... We got to get you.
Starting point is 01:44:30 We got to go all the way back to... We got to go all the way back to... We got a couple more. We got a couple more. Let's get it. Miami or L.A.? Oh, man. I ain't even going to lie, though, bro.
Starting point is 01:44:41 I love yams. Bro, you heard me. You know what I'm saying? I got the... You heard me. I got the..., you heard me. You heard me. I've got to come now. Big yammy. You heard me. Great choice.
Starting point is 01:44:52 Thanks. Well, I mean, I'm both of you. You know I brought my yams. And I ain't going to lie to you, man. Before we got our deal, man, Florida was a state, you know what I'm saying, that had been supporting me since day one. Before we got our deal, you know what I'm saying, that been supporting me since day one before we got our deal.
Starting point is 01:45:06 You know, I was moving units, you know what I'm saying, in Florida. I'm talking about, like, doing shows up and down Florida from Pensacola to Miami, man. So, yeah, man, Florida, man, Miami, man, man, yeah, man. Shout out to the 305. Shout out to the 305, man. You heard me?
Starting point is 01:45:23 Peace, man. Love it. All right. UG Care, ghetto boys. You heard me? Peace, man. Love you. All right. UGK or Ghetto Boys? I got to stay out of this. Man, come on, bro. Like, I ain't going to lie to you, bro. I just let y'all know, you know what I'm saying, that face, you know what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, but I got, man, rest in peace, PMC, man.
Starting point is 01:45:43 Rest in peace, PMC. You're like UGK, man. You're like underground kings, man. You know what I'm saying? You know, Bum B was on my first album, Chopper City, man. Like, that was the... Yeah, man. Like, that's the shoulders I'm standing on.
Starting point is 01:45:57 Niggas like Ghetto Boys and UGK and, you know, A-Ball and MJG. And, you know, Three Sheiks, Mafia. And, you know, all of them. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, that'sBall and MJG and, you know, 369 here and, you know, all in the M's. So, you know, that's the niggas I come up under, man. But, yeah, man, I got to go UGK with that one, man. You hear me? Rest in peace, Chad, man. Rest in peace, big Chad. That was good.
Starting point is 01:46:18 That was good. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Starting point is 01:46:20 Thank you. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser-known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best-selling author and MeatEater founder Stephen Rinella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say, when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting
Starting point is 01:47:06 Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
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Starting point is 01:49:34 I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man.
Starting point is 01:49:47 We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote.
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Starting point is 01:50:48 EPMD or Gangstar? It's an East Coast question. EPMD, bro. American price, million dollars. Yeah. And I was a baby then. You know what I'm saying? But I remember EPMD a little bit more than I remember gang stuff, man.
Starting point is 01:51:09 You know what I mean? That's a fact. All right. Now, this is the last one. You want to say it? No. Oh, loyalty or? Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:51:15 Loyalty or respect? Loyalty, man. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think loyalty, you know, go a long way, man. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think loyalty, you know, go, go, go, go a long way, man. You know what I mean? Like, you know, and you know, motherfuckers definitely want their respect.
Starting point is 01:51:33 You know what I'm saying? Like, cause I, you know, I, I, I give, you know, everybody respect, you know what I mean? Whether I like them or don't like them, you know what I mean? But you know, loyalty just means something different to a motherfucker, you know what I mean? So I'm going to definitely go with lawyers. So let's take a shot for a day. Let's take a shot because I got to go to the lab. You see what y'all doing?
Starting point is 01:51:53 Nah, nah. You put my Kool-Aid in that joke. Get your Kool-Aid. Ow, you heard me. Let me ask you something. Hold on, let me ask you something. You started at what age? You was mad young. So how old were you when you started rhyming?
Starting point is 01:52:08 How did you know? Look, this nigga's a legend. Who? He moved at the exact same time. He knew this nigga's a legend. You said 13? That's when you first started penning lyrics? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:23 My daddy got killed when I was 12, right? You know what I'm saying? So I think that was like one of the first songs I wrote was about my daddy, man. You know what I mean? Just talking about him, right? And I was always a fan of New Orleans music and New Orleans hip hop. But I think it just was a part of me just journaling for real, you know what I mean? And yeah, man, I was like, man, I'm going to write a song, man. And I think I wrote a verse about my daddy, and then I just kept writing.
Starting point is 01:52:57 Okay, because you said you was a fan of New Orleans music, but specific artists, because you were, like you and Juvie to me were more lyrical than most at the time in the region. Yeah, yeah, artists, because you were like you and Juvie to me were more lyrical than most at the time in the region. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So where did you, who were you listening to that kind of inspired that? New Orleans wise? In general. Who was
Starting point is 01:53:20 inspiring you lyrically? Oh man, like Tupac, Spice One. Ooh, Spice One, Ghetto Boys, UGK, Pimp Daddy, you know, UNLV, Partners in Crime, like,
Starting point is 01:53:38 you know, I used MC Dick, like, I used Ricky B, L.O.G., like, you know, I was listening to a lot of, you know, New Orleans music, but be a log like you know I was listening to a lot of you know New Orleans music but then I also you know baby had me listening to Coogee rap you know I mean last you know he had you listening to it yeah that's right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's right interesting yeah yeah yeah baby like when I was like You know 13, 14
Starting point is 01:54:05 Like you know baby Used to make me listen To a lot of cool G-Rap You know what I mean Just to Yo I can see that now Yo I can see that But you know there's a lot
Starting point is 01:54:15 Of southern artists That have said Like Trick has said That he was into cool G-Rap I believe You know what I forgot about that part You're correct
Starting point is 01:54:20 I think There's a couple folks That have said that out here You're correct Oh yeah But you know That's gangster rap That's the couple folks that have said that out here. You're correct. Oh, yeah. But, you know, that's gangster rap. That's the original.
Starting point is 01:54:27 You got a big face. Yeah. That's your Kool-Aid pack and all. That's why I get all that from you. Yeah, yeah. Get that from Kool-Aid rap.
Starting point is 01:54:33 You know what I'm saying? Like, he was on his yeah shit, like, way back then. Yeah, nah, baby used to make me listen to, you know, Kool-Aid rap and, you know,
Starting point is 01:54:44 just different shit. You know what I mean? Because, like I said, I was a kid, man, and I to, you know, Coogee rap and, you know, just different shit, you know what I mean? Because, like I said, I was a kid, man, and I was, you know, just trying to find my voice, you know, find my swag, find my flow. So I just used to eat up, you know, all type of different shit, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:54:59 You remember doing the video with Prodigy? Absolutely. That was probably one of the biggest things for Queens, right? Nah, that was one of the biggest things for me, like, coming from the South. You know what I mean? Like, you know what I mean? Like, that's my beat. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:55:18 You know what I'm talking about? This is my beat. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, for them to even much reach out to a nigga and ask, that really was kind of, you know, one of them, you know, points in the nigga career where niggas feel like, damn, they hear us up there. Like, like, like, like, like, damn, we really made it. Like, you know, like, niggas fucking with us now?
Starting point is 01:55:40 Okay, okay, okay. I love this. I love this. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, like, y'all look down on us. You I love this. You be like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, like y'all look down on us. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're what kind of, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:55:49 Like, kind of impersonating. Hey, man. You know what I mean? I tell him all the time. He don't believe it. Yeah, man. And it was like, damn, bro, like,
Starting point is 01:55:57 you know what I'm saying? Don't like this. But it's, it's factual history. Wait, wait. Hold on, hold on. Because now you're making his point. When Prodigy, like, called, okay. That shit meant the world to. Wait, wait. Hold on, hold on, because now you're making his point.
Starting point is 01:56:05 When Prodigy called, that shit meant the world to a nigga, man. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, man, rest in peace, Prodigy, man. Rest in peace, Prodigy. Big facts, you know what I'm saying? But you didn't realize that you deserved that opportunity? You didn't know that? I mean, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:24 I felt like, you know, that I deserved it. But for real, for real, we was in a mind frame like, man, fuck everybody. You know what I'm saying? We don't give a fuck about nothing. You know what I'm saying? We doing us. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:56:36 And we just, you know what I'm saying? Like, nah, that's just the attitude that we had, right? That's the attitude I had. You know what I'm saying? We like, man, look, we going to make these niggas respect us. You know what I'm saying? We like, man, we going to make these niggas respect us. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, you know how niggas be.
Starting point is 01:56:49 You know what I'm saying? No, I know. You know what I'm saying? Niggas just, you know what I'm saying? So, niggas wasn't even trimming. Like, man, we getting money, man. You know what I'm saying? We here, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:56:56 We getting these plaques. You know what I'm saying? These niggas ain't seeing us, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Like, but, yeah, they see us. They act like they don't see us. But this is the first, is that the first time that you felt like New York was embracing you?
Starting point is 01:57:09 I ain't going to lie. Like, when you reached out, you know what I'm saying? I reached out two years ago earlier. Yeah, nah, but that's a fact. Like, nigga, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, no one ever reached out. You know what I'm saying, nigga? Prada, she didn't reach out.
Starting point is 01:57:23 You know, Jay-Z reached out. You know what I'm saying? Jay-ada She didn't reach out You know Jay-Z Reached out You know what I'm saying We on this cash money A year later I'ma be honest You just driving that Nah nah nah You was
Starting point is 01:57:32 You know what I'm saying Like you was Oh early Big facts Tell them all where I was Tell them all where I was Tell them all where I was I knew
Starting point is 01:57:40 I knew I was like I'm sorry I gotta take my props I'm sorry I'm sorry Right now Right right over here. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:57:46 But, yeah, man, that really, you know, kind of made a nigga feel, you know, a little bit more comfortable. And, you know what I mean? Like, it's not just comfortable. It's just, you know what I'm saying? Like, all right, all right, we here now. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's official.
Starting point is 01:58:03 It's beautiful to hear you say that But it's also like Not beautiful to hear you say that Because we really Embraced you In New York You were our artist in New York And you know what's crazy
Starting point is 01:58:19 Did you know that though In retrospect You know what I'm saying And just creating relationships you knew that i wish you knew that you know what i mean but you know how you like new york the mecca you know saying a hip-hop you know what i mean and you're thinking we ain't fucking with you keep it real keep it real i mean i'm keeping it real like Because I feel like you're about to say yes. But no, no. You know what?
Starting point is 01:58:45 Fuck it. Hurt my feelings right now. Because this is not how we felt about you. This is not how we felt about us. We've explained to you it was not you guys. It was the industry at home.
Starting point is 01:58:57 You know where there's no limit. You know, like, I'm going to just say Master P or Jermaine Dupri or Birdman, you know what I'm saying? Lil J, you know what I'm saying? You got all these
Starting point is 01:59:11 down south, you know what I'm saying? Even Luke down here. Everybody's looking for Luke. You know what I'm saying? But all you hear is Puffy and Jay-Z. You know what I'm saying? And Suge. You know what I'm saying? Niggas don't give, you know, Puffy and Jay-Z. You know what I'm saying? And Suge. Like, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:59:26 Niggas don't give, you know, niggas like P and Birdman and Jermaine Dupri and Lil' G. You know what I'm saying? They props and they done just as much or even more than all them niggas. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, I be feeling like it be a bias there. You know what I'm saying? When it come down to, You know what I'm saying? When it come down to Southern
Starting point is 01:59:45 legendary entrepreneur type niggas versus East Coast or West Coast. That's true. You know what I'm saying, niggas? You feel me? But it's cool though. We ain't tripping. You see Luke, what he's been saying? He wants to celebrate the 40 years of Southern
Starting point is 02:00:04 hip-hop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Huh? Luke's been saying he wants to celebrate 40 years of Southern hip-hop. Nah, big facts. Can I say something? Big facts. Can I say something? Big facts.
Starting point is 02:00:15 And I'm going to represent the whole East Coast for this moment. Maybe I can never represent for East Coast ever in a moment like this ever again. We loved Southern hip-hop. We appreciated Southern hip-hop. No, thanks. It's that we couldn't
Starting point is 02:00:37 put it on the forefront at that time. We just didn't. So how y'all what is that shit called uh uh comprehend how y'all comprehended it yeah was wrong no no it's not it's not it's not it's not wrong man it's not wrong at all man no it's not wrong i was working it i was a dj active at the time i'm going to new york to get to get records. I was interacting with people. No, I'm just telling you.
Starting point is 02:01:08 Okay, by the way. And it's not you. It was the industry. The industry was built in New York, so it was New York-centric. Exactly. That's what it was. Exactly. The hip-hop radio was centralized in New York.
Starting point is 02:01:20 Then you had Atlanta and L.A. But New York still controlled most of it. In L.A., was like competing. The South was left. Even with media and all that. The source, XX, everything. You had to go to New York. He voted for Vanessa. So who do you think they're hiring?
Starting point is 02:01:38 They're hiring everybody in New York. They fell. Immediately Vanessa. You know what I mean? That's who was embracing them. Yeah, Vanessa. You know what I mean? That's who was embracing us. Yeah, facts. And by the way, neither of y'all are incorrect. What makes y'all incorrect was y'all blaming the actual people.
Starting point is 02:02:00 No, we're not. Nah, nah, nah. We're blaming the infrastructure. That's what I'm blaming. That's what you, the infrastructure, right? blaming the infrastructure. That's what I'm blaming. The infrastructure, right? It's New York-centric, so they come from that angle. That was the first source when
Starting point is 02:02:13 Andre 3... The South got something to say. You gonna bring that up? Come on, baby. That's where we go with it? You ain't even drinking and you're fucking up. You gonna bring that up, B? Damn.
Starting point is 02:02:28 He's sober drunk. Yeah, he's sober drunk. No, but you're right, though. You're right. You see what I'm saying? No, no, you're right. Like, and niggas was going, niggas been doing numbers. You know, niggas been, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:02:41 Like, and it's like, God damn. I can't speak for the whole East Coast, right? You know what I'm saying? And it's like, god damn. I can't speak for the whole East Coast, right? You know what I'm saying? But what I can speak for is the people that loved it. And let me just tell you something. Cash Money came and fucked with me. They came and seen me. Lil Wayne came and fucked with me.
Starting point is 02:03:03 B.G. came and fucked with me. Juven Wayne came and fucked with me. BG came and fucked with me. Juvenile came and fucked with me. Every David Banner came and fucked with me. Crooked Letters came and fucked with me. So I want to tell y'all I love y'all.
Starting point is 02:03:20 She's one of them niggas. That's right. Let me give myself my flowers Like, nigga He had respect for you Like, nigga This is no real Like, what the fuck
Starting point is 02:03:30 So, so, so So I respect When y'all say Maybe an East Coast nigga Ain't fuck with you But can y'all respect When you say The East Coast nigga
Starting point is 02:03:41 Did love y'all Yeah, nah, fact Like, of course That's why we have Dream Champs. Because I'm from Miami, you're from New York. We obviously created Dream Champs. Nah, fake. You trying to shut me up?
Starting point is 02:03:53 I'm just saying. I like that. I like that. Well, let's get back to beef. No. Nah, but dude, let me just tell you something. And I don't want to say you're the realest. With the N word, right?
Starting point is 02:04:18 I don't want to say that, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, facts. I get it. But you kept it real. You stood still. And you're the only one that I've ever seen say anything about
Starting point is 02:04:35 a record label, and they forgive them in the most respectful way ever. By the way, I don't think there will ever be another one of you. But it's real, it's honesty,
Starting point is 02:04:53 and do you understand how real that shit is? Or you don't? I mean, now that you're kind of like, I'm taking it in right now, you know what I mean? But, um, yeah, I'm taking it in right now. You know what I mean? Yeah, I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 02:05:08 I get it. I get it. Because when that record came out, right, I looked. I was like, Dad, why would BG do that? Right? This is me. This is me. I'm like, he came home.
Starting point is 02:05:19 They accepted him. They accepted him. Why the hell did he do that? And then And then two weeks later They accepted you back I said I said this is the only thing in the world
Starting point is 02:05:35 That is so fucking dope Yeah nah man You said This is What's your words? And you could Correct me if you want You said But I let it be known in there In the song You said You know is what your words, and you could correct me if you want.
Starting point is 02:05:46 But I let it be known in there, in the song. You said, you said. I had to get this off my chest. You heard me. And I was like. Yeah, man, like it wasn't no, you know what I'm saying, it wasn't no off, you know what I'm saying, but you dig, like yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:06:01 Cause don't, you heard me, like stand on it, man. I mean, bro, look, we gonna leave that alone, let that go. You know what I'm saying? You heard me? Stand on it, man. I mean, bro, look. We're going to leave that alone and let that go. We already left that alone and let that go. But just ask me. Just ask me. When y'all first met up, because everybody got to be like, nigga.
Starting point is 02:06:18 What happened? Was there... Bro, man, listen. At the end of the day, day bro you know what I'm saying like and I love Birdman that's my I love him too
Starting point is 02:06:28 man you heard me but nigga know like that I'm just ignorant bro I'm just the young bad rebellious you know child
Starting point is 02:06:37 that's just liable to say anything at any given time you know what I'm saying but it's gonna always come from the heart you know what I'm saying and man look
Starting point is 02:06:44 you either like it or love it you gotta love me for who I am man you know what I'm saying? Man, look, you either like it or love it. You got to love me for who I am, man. You know what I'm saying? And that's just what it is, bitch. Give me a hug. I'm giving you a hug right now. Nigga, give me a hug. That was awesome.
Starting point is 02:06:55 That was the greatest thing I've ever seen. Yo. Yo. Yo, thank you, man. I appreciate you. This is your. This is your This is your This is your
Starting point is 02:07:09 This is your podcast. This is your everything. Holy moly guacamole. Yo, this is We did We did We did We did I'm going to make sure you got my
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Starting point is 02:08:26 delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops. They get asked all the time. Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. This is Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated.
Starting point is 02:08:59 I get right back there and it's bad. Listen to Absolute Season 1. Taser Incorporated, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glott.
Starting point is 02:09:14 And this is Season 2 of the War on Drugs podcast. Yes, sir. Last year, a lot of the problems of the drug war. This year, a lot of the biggest names in music and sports. This kind of star-studded
Starting point is 02:09:24 a little bit, man. We met them at their homes. We met them at their recording studios. Stories matter and it brings a face to it. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 02:09:39 Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company. or wherever you get your podcasts. embrace as core. There's so many stories out there. And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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