Drink Champs - Episode 455 w/ Keyshia Cole

Episode Date: May 30, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the Princess of Hip-Hop Soul, Keyshia Cole!Keyshia Cole shares her journey through the music industry, sharing insights into her creative process, personal challenges, and the experiences that have shaped her career.This candid discussion about her rise to fame, the stories behind her most impactful songs, and her perspectives on love, heartbreak, and resilience. Keyshia offers a unique glimpse into her life, both on and off the stage.Keyshia Cole helps listeners understand the woman behind the music, her inspirations, and her aspirations for the future. Whether you're a longtime admirer or new to her work, this episode highlights Keyshia Cole's authenticity and strength.Make some noise for Keyshia Cole! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more: * https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreaga  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! And when I tell you, we started this show and we said we wanted to interview legends. We wanted to interview people that are icons.

This woman right here is an icon. She's a legend. She is, has been through it all, and I don't wanna, I don't know how far can I ask her. How far can I ask her? Because, oh man, and she's viral, she does everything. But I'ma be honest, I just wanna get straight into this interview.

So I wanna say that thank you for being here. Thank you for being a part of this show. But in case y'all don't understand who we have, this woman is an icon, she's a legend, she's a tycoon. Let's make some noise for motherfucking the one and only Keisha. Oh! Oh!

Oh! You know what we should do? We should start right off with the flowers. Right off. Right off with the flowers. Right off with the flowers. The flowers. Keisha, let me just tell you.

I was like, wait, I got flowers? Yeah, yeah, you're about to introduce the flowers. Let me just tell you, so the art show was about giving people their flowers, I got flowers? Yeah, yeah. You're about to introduce the flowers. Let me just tell you. So the art show was about giving people their flowers, why they can smell them. They thoughts, why they can tell them. And they drinks, why they can tell them. Hello.

And we know. Hello. Hello. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey.

Snoop Dogg said it's better than a Grammy because it comes from your family. Hello. But let's get straight into it. Let's talk about the beginning of Keisha Cove. What was the first thoughts of you saying, I'm gonna be a star? Oh my God.

And this is in Oakland, right? That is a long time ago. Okay, okay, cool. I'm like, wait a minute, no, I actually put it in the movie that I did on my life Life story. Yeah when my mom passed God bless. Yeah for sure. Rest in peace to mom Duke Frankie That personality lives okay, um and all mean, yeah, that personality lives, okay? And all of our families, you know, from where we from. And it's just like, I think that when I was a little girl

and I saw my brothers rapping, and them just being influenced by NWA and like, you know, those kind of groups. Yeah, my brother, yeah, used to be influenced, yeah, by NWA and of, you know, those kind of groups. Yeah, my brother, yeah, used to be influenced, yeah, by NWA and of course Tupac, but you know, those things. So when I saw them, me and my best friend at the time, we formed a group. Like, yeah, we were both rapping

and I was singing as well. You had like a NWA. Oh, you was rapping and singing. Yeah, I was rapping when I first started. Yeah, I was a little rapper. And we used to just write rhymes and stuff like that. And then it just started from that, watching our older brothers.

We were tomboy when we were little, so it was a thing. And then it got serious. Like when I started singing, I was like, oh, wait, this is a thing. So that's the part that I'm very curious of, right? Young, how did you transition to singing when you wanted to rap?

She was rhyming and singing. Right, yeah, well I was rapping and then also singing the hook, yep. Yeah, it was horrible. When we met Tupac, he was like, you're just little lady. This is what not, we're not gonna do this. You're gonna be singing,

and you're gonna stop rapping about weed, and being out in the streets. Y'all think, what are y'all doing? And she just throws it out there like. I know people know that you're connected with Tupac, but that was the first time I ever said that. For nine years, and the way she just said that was so fly. Yeah, because we know when I met Tupac.

Yeah, we was kids. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. We were children. Time out. That was the flyest shit I think I've ever heard. The way you just said it. So you're in your neighborhood, and Tupac is there? How the fuck is...

Was he in Digital Underground already? We were 13. 13? Well, first, it's levels to it. First of all, we went to MC Hammer, right? MC Hammer, that's where MC Hammer put you on. Well, MC Hammer took us there, yeah, to Death Row Records.

Mm-hmm. Whoa. Yeah. I'm not. Whoa. Yeah. I'm not gonna lie to you. Can I pop a bottle of champagne? Wait. Man, I don't even understand the timeline. What timeline?

This is not MC Hammer when he's on Death Row already, though. That's a little bit later. Yes. It was around that time. Oh, yeah? When Eric B was on Death Row East. Yeah, when he had to throw East. Yeah, Death Row East.

And that was like a vibe. And then, yeah. I'm sorry, I gotta stop you for one second. Please just make some noise. Okay. By the way, yeah. Please make some noise for Mr. Lee Justanian. Eric B, Eric B, the chicks still love me, Eric B,

the chicks still love me. No, as a rapper, what you just said is such a fucking dope story. I'm just like, cause by the way, you can Google this, right? But hearing you just say that. So nonchalantly. It's so, I mean, it's the way you Google it. So, okay, all right.

Let me let you finish. Well, it's a beautiful thing because after Pac passed away and his mom and they all reached out to me. And thank God for that because Pac promised me he would do a song with me before he left. And for it to actually come to fruition was awesome because I always wanted to do a record with him. And so when we did Play Your Cards Right,

his mom was in the video and that was just so beautiful. My brother was a part of the outlaw scene and my brother was like my big brother with him. And so that was just inspirational as well. So I was able to see it all the way through. God damn it. Speak some North American. Thank you.

What did you do? You grabbed a bottle and just did nothing. He forgot, he doesn't drink. He doesn't drink. He doesn't drink. No, no, no. He told you something. He smokes.

He just looked funny there, bro. That's some Dominican shit right there. He was into the story. He was like, wait a minute. What's the timeline? 13, 14, hot dot at 16. Okay, what's going on? Okay.

So, is it cool that I drink in front of you? No, we are. Okay. The reason why I can't drink is because I have a tour coming up. Yeah. So I got to make sure, you know, the voice, the focus is right and it's sitting right there. Okay. Who are that? Are I drinking in front of you? That's okay. No, we are. The reason why I can't drink is because I have a tour coming up. Yeah, so I gotta make sure, you know,

the voice, the focus is right. It's sitting right. I ain't gonna lie. At some point, I'm gonna get you to drink. Take a shot or something. I don't know. I can't. One?

No. Oh, all right, cool. I'm gonna be in. Be in pressure, please. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I promise to God. We good, we good, we good. It was kind of a good guy no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Okay. All right. I'm not going to lie to you. I went through your discography.

And I'm not going to lie. You just make hits. Do you not know how to make a regular song? Well, that's why I stopped. They got to start getting a little regular. Like that was the stuff. I'm like, bitch, I already like, I already sung about all the heartbreak I could sing about. How many different ways

can we rewrite this story? I'm over it. I be feeling bad, dad. It's another heartbreak out there. I be like, what they did to Keisha, man? Man, but they won't stop doing it. And dad, listen, I'm mad at you. No, but I'm not gonna lie to you.

This is something I really have to ask. And this is personal, right? I'm also an artist, right? Also been an artist, right? So sometimes you have to go through certain things to do that. Do you feel like that's how you have to make music? No, hell no.

Okay. Ooh, my favorite. A matcha, matcha tea? Is that matcha tea? This is matcha, lavender matcha. Wait, what? It's lavender matcha. It's so good.

Like this is like, oh my God. This is like the dessert. Lavender? Lavender matcha? I have matcha tea. Yeah, I make it with heavy cream. I have no idea where we at right now. Oh my God.

I'm sorry, did I just snap? It's a different kind of drink, champ. Who cares? You with the bros. My bad. The bros. The bros. So let me get back to the question.

Okay. Heartbreak. You know. Tired. Mary J. There's so many people who have to go through these pain to make these great music. Is that something you feel like you have?

Yeah, that's really, can I cuss? Yes, you cuss. That's really fucked up, man. That's really fucked up. You know what I mean? I hate that that gotta be a thing. That it's like, we love you more when you're heartbroken because we know that you feel it. Well, I mean, my mama, my dad, my dog of 14 years passed, I lost my boyfriend. I mean, so I guess I should write some music. Like, no, I'm not, no. You gotta heal.

I'm not doing it. Like, I don't wanna, I mean, the Heartbreak Records we got is still here 20 years. 20 year anniversary this year. Yes. Hello. Hello. Yeah.

Of course I gotta plug my tour, which we are going on tour for the 20th anniversary of the way it is. The way it is. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I's like, I got questions for Keisha. But I want to hear what you got to say. You need to be prepared. You need to be prepared. Listen, man, Keisha, are you the first artist that had a reality show? Because I feel like you're my cousin. I remember the reality show.

She's not your cousin, sir. Oh, I'll tell you, mom. But what I'm saying is... He's saying you're Haitian. Yeah, she might be a ZO, but I'm just saying the world knows you. Like we feel like we grew up with you, you know, your family, Nefertiti, your sister. Nefertiti is crazy.

Oh yeah, I know she's crazy. Back in the day she was so crazy. I'm like, that's her name, Nefertiti. She's the one for me, Nefertiti. No, I'm going to listen to you. Okay, the point is the matter. Okay. We drink, we drink.

But I'm just saying, like her, her name is Nefertiti. Her name is Nefertiti. Her name is Nefertiti. Her name is Nefertiti. Her name is Nefertiti. Her name is Nefertiti. Her name is Nefertiti. Is it her name or the mysterious? She's the one for me, not for Terri. No, I'm gonna listen to you. Okay, the point is the matter, okay. We drink, we drink. But I'm just saying, like her, and we just feel that we know your family, like we group up with you.

You were early on the reaction set. And for all love, I think so. No flavor plays. Oh, okay, true. We can't get first artists, no flavor plays. No flavor plays. For the love of flavor plays. Not for the love of flavor plays. Shout out to flavor, flavor, true. Did you get your first artist? No, no, no. Flavor, flavor, flavor. Flavor, flavor, flavor. Flavor, flavor.

Not for the love of flavor, but flavor. Shout out to Flavor, Flavor, Flavor. Yeah, but that was dating. I'm talking about in your living room. In your living room. Your family, the Upstads, the Damos. What's your mom's name, Frankie, right? Mm-hmm.

I kid you not, I feel like I knew her. Like I said, like- What, really? Real shit? 100%? Like when y'all argued and y'all talked- She's crazy. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I feel like I knew her. Like I said. Like I, like. Really?

Real shit? 100%? Like when y'all argued and y'all talked. She's crazy, yeah. No, no, no, no. She was not having that. I'm being honest with you. That lady is crazy.

I'm being honest. This is how I know I'm super, super hood. I felt her, too. Yes, yes, yes. Oh my God. So. No, I did too. I understood, and as a mother now,

I understand, like I totally did, like how bad it could have been for her and not understanding what that matter been like for her, I wish I would have known, but you know, I'm just happy I got to have her as my mom and experience all the ups and downs for her, because it really shaped me to be who I am, and you know, I'm appreciative of all the moments, the good, the ups, the downs, the bad, the ugly, you know, the great moments, you know, so. But as a superstar, right?

And I can relate so much in so many different levels. But there's certain images that I try to protect, right? Oh yeah. But then there's certain images I can't protect, right? Mm-hmm. Meaning, this is just, it just is what it is. This is just my family. Well yeah, I mean that was the whole conversation.

It was like, I was talking to other artists that I won't say no names, but they be like, yo, you don't have to go and do that. You don't gotta put your family on TV. You already making a name for yourself in the music business. I had already dropped my album. When The Way It Is, the reality show came out,

but I was like, still, I know how it feels to be that girl that is in the hood, that don't really have much to look up to or inspired by. So I want it to be that inspiration that you don't, I mean, no disrespect to nobody, because everybody get they thing the way they get they thing, you know what I'm saying? But like some people, I mean, not built like that,

like you know, you ain't got to do certain things to get what you want. Like you can put that work in and really go out there and make that music and like, use your voice, use your talent. That was my whole thing. I want it to be that, I mean, of course, everything can turn on you. You know, like people will be like, oh yeah, well that your talent. That was my whole thing. I wanted to be that. I mean, of course everything can turn on you.

You know, like people will be like, oh yeah, wasn't that your mom's dish? Yeah, and they make jokes about it, but I slapped those people in the hood. Like, I don't give a fuck. Like, you get your ass beat, like if you talk to my mother, like I don't give a fuck.

Like, period. But like, yeah, like, but you know, I mean, but thankfully, like my mom was there for me, both my parents, you know, my foster mother as well, my foster father, my brothers, you know, I mean, but thankfully, like, my mom was there for me, both my parents, you know, my foster mother as well, my foster father, my brothers, my sisters, everybody came together, everybody got paid. It was a thing. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives

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You don't have to say this, but I feel like the Kardashians stole everything from you. Oh shit. Because I feel like you were the blueprint. You were actually you were like like when I'm watching you were, the blueprint, you were actually, you were like, like when I'm watching you and I'm watching this, I'm like, yo, and then in my opinion, they kind of did that same type of thing. You don't have to say this because-

I'm not scared of nobody in this world. I'm not scared of anybody. I'm not scared of anybody. I'm not scared of anybody. But I will say this. Okay. And shout out to the Kardashians and Kris Jenner and all those people over there. And I know a few of them actually, personally. But my thing is,

is what I love to see is a family coming together and staying together and not tearing each other down. That was one of our downfalls of the way it is. And no matter what I try to do to bring our family together, I pray that one day I'll be rich so I can put all my sisters and brothers in one household. Bad idea, that was that, don't do it. All your siblings in one household. Bad idea, that was that, don't do it.

All your siblings in one goddamn house is insane. No, but it was, I mean it was fun, but then it was like, you know, I mean, think about that, you brothers and sisters, I was a child and I just had great hopes for me and my brothers and sisters because we were adopted, you know, all of us. So sticking together is a thing, you know,

because one thing you will not see the Kurdish hands do of all of us. So sticking together is a thing, because one thing you will not see the Kardashians do is tear each other down. Well, I'm going to tell you something, Keisha. Right now, if you look around, that was my sons, my brother-in-law, my mother, excuse me, my nephews, my friends, my, everyone is here and I'm gonna tell you something.

I'm gonna tell you something that you don't know. You showed that family camaraderie. And guess what? So just in case you don't know, we learned that from you. Yeah, well I wish it could have been something else. No, no, no, no, no, no. It could have been, I mean, I was sure. You put it on, on, on TV screen.

On display. And you, you wasn't ashamed. I wanted it to be, I wanted us to, I wanted us to really grow together. I really wanted my mom to get healthy. I wanted my, my family to be healthier. I wanted us to go through, you know, some like growth in front of everybody's eyes.

That was my whole goal. And once I saw that that goal was not gonna be reached during that time, I just, it's time to stop. Not at the height, everybody was pissed. Wait a minute, we're making the most money right now. It does not matter. Like, no, yeah, everybody was pissed. Like, I was like, no, no more shows, no more.

We're not, no, until everybody's really- You shut it down? Hell yeah. Oh. Definitely. Everybody was the producers, everybody was mad. Like, wait a minute, no, this is where the month of this gets good.

Yeah, well no. No peace, no peace. Not for people that are trying to get better. Right. So let's let that happen first, and then, you know, we can continue, but that didn't work out, so. Did the music suffer during that time, too? No, I think what suffered is the fact that there were a lot of bad things said about

me and my fans are from where I'm from. So to have siblings say things bad about you, I think that put a kind of damper on my fans and how they felt about me. But God is the greatest and I'm still here 20 years later, so none of that really matters. I mean, during that time though, it really was really painful for me because I really thought my fans knew me better

than to be anything but supportive and loving and kind and understanding my family. But it don't necessarily always go like that. And the whole point of the matter was to make sure that the girls out there in the hood and every hood across the United States of America, maybe even overseas while I'm talking, like, you know, to get that.

That was the point. That was the point. It worked, though. And that was the point. So God gave me more than I could ask for. And I feel thankful and grateful that I'm still 20 years later singing the songs that I wrote.

Right, and that's a big songs that I wrote. So. And that's a big deal that you wrote. Yeah, yeah. So. And this is me talking, right? And this is me from a pure fan point of view that, from a hood guy, and I have to be careful the way I word this.

And I have to be careful the way I word this. Mary was like, oh, please be careful the way you work. You know where I'm going? No. OK. She's probably just sick of your hair and stuff like that. No, no, no. Mary was like the queen of like. Was no, not was excuse me. Thank you. You corrected me. I don't know beef.

And now like like you're when it comes to the hood like you're the queen. I'm her baby sister. Yeah, I mean I'm her sister actually. Yeah, I'm her sister. The Queen Yeah, I'm her sister she That's the way it goes like we yeah Family just love one for real like I love Mary man, and I'm so thankful that like even the strength That's what inspired me about Mary that studied her strength, okay? Like cuz you can't get away from Mary you told you boo her she Like, cause you can't get away from Mary, you thought you blew her, she, ah,

you don't want to go to the back. So yeah, Mary ain't, yeah, about no game, you know, so. So let me ask you, because they always say, you don't want to meet your idols. Yeah, they do say that a lot. I've met people that I really, damn it, why? Like, why? Like, why you gotta be this way?

Just so you feel comfortable, I've met people that I loved and was so disappointed. Disappointed, man. Man, man, I met so many people, man. It's so sad. But you know, people are on their own individual paths and you never know what they went through

that hurt them. And not even just that, but just who they are and what it took to get where they are and what shaped and molded them. I don't know, you know? So I try to be respectful to everybody. Like, you know, I ain't gotta like you, I can still listen to your music, you know what I'm saying?

Like, it's people that I really was probably slapped the shit out of, if I really seen them and they was on that type of hype with me, I might, it might be a fight. And I've overcome that, but if it got there, I probably would, you know what I'm saying? Like, I would try not to do that because I'm a parent, like I have kids, but you know, there are people that, you know, but I can still listen to their music.

I can still enjoy it. Oh wait, the artist from the- The person. Yes, the person. Yes, I've learned to do that. That's hard to do. No, I've learned to do that. You good, you good.

Beautiful things. That sit from heaven. Beautiful things, beautiful things, man. That sit from heaven. Beautiful things. Where was you at in your life to say that? I was on my sophomore album, they told me I couldn't do it.

They told you you couldn't do what? You know that sophomore, what they call it the- sophomore dinks. Yeah, sophomore dinks. Yeah. Yes. So it was the second one and I was like, that's when they had told me,

Pac, they got a song that they wanted me to do, Play Your Cards Right, for his album that was coming out and I had wrote that and Sent from heaven heaven sent in the same session. Mm-hmm. That was the same session You know, you know, I understand so so so the label said don't go with sin for heaven They said don't go with let it go. They said don't go with Let It Go. They didn't like Let It Go at all. This is Interscope? Yeah, we had to put our own money in to Let It Go.

Wow. Oh wow. I need to know why this meeting happened. Give me our business in the meeting. I can't tell you that. You know what, now I'm fine. That's still up in them. That's still up in them.

That's still up in them. No, open now. That's still open now. No, it wasn't, Jimmy. It actually wasn't. It was some radio people. They just didn't know that. Adam Faber? No. Okay. Nope. I think Koshiki might have retired, actually. Maybe I can say it.

Step. Step. Yeah, Step. I love Step, by the way. Hey, Step, I love you. I still love you, okay. Step, step. Step? Yeah, step. I love step, by the way. Hey, step, I love you. I still love you, man. He did, cause he got this like. That Oakland coming out, huh? No, I love step. I love step.

Cause I mean, I went through a lot of records with them, you know, and Garnett and all them, man. Shout out to that team. Big up to Garnett. Yeah, man. All of them that really was like, no, she gonna be one of them and that's it. Like, like to go in there and it was lit. But that let it go, they just did not.

They didn't like it. I'm like, I love Missy Elliott. What are you talking about? And Kim was on there, shout out to Kim, who's joining the tour, the 20th anniversary. Shout out to her. Eventually they let it go. Well, she said she invested in it herself.

Yeah, we had to put our own money in. That went over my head. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Oh, you put your own money. Yeah. Yeah I mean just because it's kind of saying kind of did that but through the wires Oh, I didn't believe in it. I remember we were for the street team So he did the street team call himself, said he did the white label himself, and he called everybody up and did the whole thing.

Yeah, but by that point, we had been through so many chitlin' circuits, been through all the streets, so it's like, you know, we know everybody at that point, just go hand it to them and tell them, yeah, tell them go on, jam jam. Run it up, run it up. The chitlin' circuit, the chitlin' circuit. Did you learn anything?

Listen, by the way, hold on, hold on, hold on. For all of y'all that don't know, the Chitlin' Circus, when you have to go and perform every single night, it doesn't matter. I've been telling people all day who's been hanging out with me, I now know the algorithms of life. I didn't know that back then. Like right now, if I was to drop an album, I would drop it in 30 markets. I wouldn't drop it in the 52 states, it's 52 states.

I wouldn't drop it, I would drop it in the 30 markets. You're talking about radio wise. I'm talking about radio, I'm talking about. I mean, if you drop it on DSPs, it's everywhere. What the fuck is DSPs? Oh shit. The fucking audio, bro. Oh,, if you drop it on DSPs, it's everywhere. What the fuck is DSPs? Oh shit. The fucking audio, bro. Apple.

Oh, oh, get the fuck out of that shit. You're getting way too technical. We ain't dropping CDs no more. No, for sure. But then we don't have the little local record stores no more. Mop and pop, that's chicken. That's the chili perfect.

Do you remember meet and greets? Remember meet and greets? Yeah, that's where I met Big. Yeah. What? At meet and greets remember meet and greets? Yeah, that's where that's where I met big yeah What? At a meet and greet in Oakland I told him I wanted to sing I want to sing he said yeah, okay, okay It's so cool like I was like Big was cool as hell This is this is a cool story. Wait a minute. So you went to a meet and greet Big is

At the meet and greet at East my hall and you're there as a fan? Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah, they used to have meet and greets all the time there. No, no, no. But you know, that's where, that's how, like, I started. With the local mom and pops going to the record store and meet and greet, you know. Everywhere, like. Okay.

Yeah, until Target, then we started going to Target. Right, changed everything. Target was a thing. Target fucked shit up. That's what happened. That's what happened. Target fucked shit up. That's fine. That's fine. They probably did. Nah, nah, nah, nah, yeah, yeah, nah.

Now, we're going to get you hyped right now. Because we're going to play a game. This is the game that we always play on this drink champs. This is the drinking. This is the shot game. Shot game, yes. Oh yeah, I'm talking about this. By the way, you don't have to drink at all.

You're the designated drinker. God bless you. Thank you Because you would pick somebody else no, I feel like you don't mean not really my brother was here It would be cool. Where's your brother? My brother's with my son right now. Okay, he's being a good boy He's been a good brother good uncle I was like about that Yes, you really with him, man? Yes.

We can kick him out. No, no, no. He's good. He's not obligated to stay here. My security's the only one that can drink for me. No, no, no. That's also a great guy. That guy right there, that's a great guy.

Big B. Shout out to Big B. Shout out to Big B. And I don't think Alicia want to drink for me And I don't think Alicia want to drink from me. I don't think you want to drink from me, right? You can take a hit. All right, so you're going to keep with the Haitian. You're going to keep with the Haitian. OK, all right, cool.

Myself, myself, myself. All right, cool, cool. Thank you. Haitian fight. It was. It was. It was Haitian fight. It was Haitian fight.

It was Haitian fight. Right? Yeah. Pitbulls. All right. All right, so these are the rules. I'm going to do real shots today. We're going to give you two choices.

That ain't fireball, is it? No, no, this is my mawhata. No, but I like fireball. It's like kryptonite though. Oh my god. I had three shots of that one time. Alright, we have two choices. You pick one and we don't drink.

But if you say both or neither, like you don't wanna really answer the question. Okay. Then that's when we drink the shot. And by the way, don't feel sorry for us. Okay. Yeah, we're in love. And we just saying these choices are for you

to bring up memories of anything, anybody you bring up. It's just to bring up stories and stuff. Okay. Okay. It's the fun stuff Are we ready? Yeah, you ready? I'm ready. I know she got a big Evans or Tony Braxton. I knew y'all was gonna go there This is Dominican and the um, hey Dominican and the Colombian guy So at any point you don't you know, you point you're mad, you could just throw something at them.

OK, say that. Just throw it at them. Say that. Say that. OK, yes. OK. So I would say Faith Evans. OK.

Any backstory to the wife? I love Faith. She's always been supportive. She sung backgrounds for me one time on an album. She's always healthy, taken care of with that price. And I just, I had to, please, please, you're like my favorite. And she was like, all right, I got you, KC.

And she even did a feature for me. And I wrote her verse and I, oh my God, just ecstatic about that. So she's been very supportive over the years. I love that, but can I ask something? Because as rappers, right, it's always frowned upon if I... Depends on somebody's...

Not always. I wrote so many people verses. Not for R&B. I mean, excuse me. Facts. Calm down, Norrie. I've wrote so many, you said choruses. Like, I've always got in the studio and I was just like,

all right, cool, let me make this chorus. And no one's never, I've never done that. And R&B, is that frowned upon? It's not, right? No, I don't think so. I mean, I wrote Monica's verse on trust and that was a good one. Hell yeah. I think it's more prevalent in I wrote Monica's verse on trust. And that was a good one. Hell yeah.

I think it's more prevalent in R&B. Yeah. Yeah. That's why it's so that you write a lot of your own material because most R&B is being written for the art. Right. And I wish I could write for other artists. That would be awesome. So let me ask you this. Has any artist ever wrote for you?

Yes, actually. My brother Elijah Blake, who's actually going on tour with me and opening up. He wrote Enough and No Love, the one with Lil Wayne and he's an artist himself. Very talented Brother. Okay. Okay. All right, next up, Alicia Keys or Beyonce? Alicia Keys or Beyonce, bruh.

Damn. I'm very, this is all on you, because I'm so scared. You didn't even win the Lix. No, I'm being honest, I'm so scared. It doesn't mean anything. No, it's okay, you don't have to be scared. It's okay, it's not. No don't have to be scared. It's okay. It's not.

No, I would have to say Beyonce because when I was in Oakland and I was actually, Dwayne Wiggins from Tony Tony Tony, I didn't have anywhere to go. Rest in peace, Dwayne Wiggins. Love you so much. And he allowed me to stay in the studio and work on my music.

And he had actually worked with Destiny's Child, and his wife let me get a job at her coffee shop, and she would tell me stories about Beyonce and how focused she was, and how she didn't date no boys, and she wasn't like that, and that if I wanted to make it into business, that I had to really study that,

and it's like not get no relationships, and yeah, yeah business, that I had to really study that, and not get in no relationships. Like get caught up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and focus on that, because that ain't going to help you make it. And I was like, all right, cool. So I would study Beyonce for sure. Like, no, no, no, no, no was my thing. And yeah, Destiny's Child was my thing.

So I would have to say Beyonce for that. But I love Alicia. But I love Alicia. But I love Alicia. But I love Alicia. But she was like more of a, she played keys and pianos and she like instrumented, you know what I'm saying? I didn't know how to do none of that shit. I didn't know how to do none of that shit.

But you knew how to make us love you. Like, you with your dad. That's right. I'm looking at, let me tell you something. I'm just listening to your music and I was happy, sad at the same time. Oh yeah, it's definitely bipolar. No, my music is definitely bipolar.

That's what it's called? It has gotta be bipolar, because it's not one song that you can say is a true happy song. It's always some kind of hurt leading up to a little bit of happy. I loved it. It's like, what is that?

That's what is called bipolar. I think it might be just a little bit bipolar music. A little piece. That's a new genre. That's a new genre. Bipolar music is a new genre. It's so sad. It's so sad.

OK. All right. I'm embarrassed. Digital underground Tupac or Death Row Tupac? No, I think Death Row. Yeah. I'm going with Death Row Tupac. Fuck Digital Underground Tupac. Oh, no, what I was like.

I didn't really know that. Which version of Pac did you prefer? Dang, the Death Row Pac got a... Nah, I'm going to go with the Bafo Bafo Bafo Bafo. You Pac got him. Nah, I'ma go with the Be-Foe, Be-Foe, Be-Foe, Be-Foe. You going with digital? Yeah, I'ma go with that. I'm not gonna lie, I'ma go with that. Well, Brenda's got a baby, Tupac.

I would've preferred him to stay around. Type five. All right, so, by the way. Let me get a round of applause for you guys. Yeah! I see why you're saying that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I see why you're saying that,

but I'ma be honest with you. I've never met Tupac, period. And I've been in the game for fucking 25 years. I've never met him. What was the difference? Because you met both of them, right? No. No, you didn't meet Def Rol Tupac?

No, I met Def Rol Tupac. I didn't meet Digital Underground Park. Oh, you didn't meet the guy with the African beads on? No, no, no, no, no. But we did wear that one chain that everybody was wearing that one time with the African. Like the Bay Area, Yung Tee Dee. That's the Nefertiti.

I'm sorry, I got your sister's thing wrong. Oh, no, it's okay, it's okay, because she's the queen. I love her too. So you didn't meet that version of the G-pop? No. So you only met the... Yeah. I wanted to meet him so bad.

But I just clowned him when I met him. It was like, it was a good vibe. Y'all got each other. I'm sorry, I've never heard somebody say that. No, I definitely told him his feet stink. No, I was saying that because he had some shoes on that he used to wear all the time. The goddamn Versace with no socks on.

So he was trying to like, big up, walk through, be all big, I was like, I know your feet probably stink, but like. He was like, wait a minute, what? Like, who are you gonna be? You know how that goes. Like, I'm saying, but he took it in, but like, he was taking it as a joke.

He didn't like, make a big deal out of it, you know? But you actually said to Tupac, your feet probably stink? Yeah. Yeah, they probably do. That's hard. They probably do. I feel like we should ask the next question.

Get your hands off of that. Get your hands off of that. See, I ain't taking no shots. I feel like they're cheating. No, you know what I'm saying. That's fair. That's fair. Hold up, hold up, slime.

Hey, my bad. I've never. I got to work harder at this. We've been trying to get Tupac stories forever. But I don't think we ever came close to. His feet stink. Your feet. Mike.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm not taking a shot for Tupac feet stinking. I'm taking a shot for Mike. You knowing Tupac in a way that no one else has ever described. That's a piece of pie. Solo, solo, solo. in a way that no one else that's on this show has ever described. So low, so low. I'm sure he got some stories about crazy stuff.

Ashanti or Rihanna? Oh, damn, Riri. Riri? No, I would, I, I, only because I think me and Riri came, well congratulations to Riri being a billionaire. Shout out to Riri and the babies. Oh my God.

Oh my God. But when I was in the hood and they was like, if you want to make it in the business, you gotta be listening to Ashanti. I'm like, what? I'm in the back of the, yeah. Yeah, we bumping Ashanti. You know, it's like. So I would have to pick a Sean team.

It felt like you picked both. Well, yeah, I mean, but we need a billionaire. We need a billionaire to pick us. Cheers. Cheers, man. Cheers. Cheers. We need a billionaire.

Let's pick her out. She cracked a billionaire. Figured it out. She cracked the code. Let's go eat. Mary J. Blige or Brandy? Fuck, why would you do that? By the way, I told you it's the Colombian and the Dominican right there. That's not nice because... And if you want to throw a monster energy drink at them, it's okay.

No, say that. It's okay. Just throw it. They know how to move. They know how to move. They know how to move. Okay. I'm going to have to say both. I'm going to have to.

I'm going to have to. We don't want to drink it. It's not going to be a cap. Let's go. We have to go with time. Yeah, no cap. Are y'all really drinking though? Because I feel like y'all.

You want to smell it? You want to make sure that it's real drinks? Yes, yes. You can do that. You can have some of my Mojana. Nobody ever wants to drink vodka. What? Vodka? Yes. Vodka. Where is the Louis the 13th? See next time I come back after the tour,

we're going to have to have Louis shots. Oh, there we go. Yo, yo, yo. I'll supply. Kiesha, listen, let me just tell you something. I'm going to be honest with you. Let me take my drink first. What he say. I'm going to be honest with you. Let me take my drink first. What he's saying, I'm going to be honest, is like,

They told me, they told me Kisha Cole was a legendary drinker when she drinks. Oh, yeah, yeah, well, I like shots of Patron. Tequila. OK, I want to tell you about a day I met you. Oh, shit. Oh, this is good. I met you in Club Mansion. Do you remember here? My wife was with me. Mm-hmm. Oh and you were so saucy

No, this is in Club Mansion. You were with. So you was inside, outside. I was inside, but I was outside. And I was there. You were with Joe's wife. Oh, Lorena. Lorena, that's right.

And you, let me tell you how saucy you were. Oh, shit, I remember that night. No, don't tell no more. OK, all right. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you go ahead. You were so saucy that you made me sober. Because I was right. No, no, no, no, no, no, you go ahead. You were so saucy that you made me sober. Cause I was like. They was like, oh no.

Even Joe was like, yo, what the fuck? Hey, uh-uh, nah, sister, we out, yo, we out. Yeah, shit ain't nothing. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. And like, but Joe always. I'm gonna be honest with you. It made me so happy. I love other drunk people.

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This is my real family. They are coming out. They like, you got kids. We coming out. They are coming out. I will take you. I will take you. That's my daughter too.

I will take you. I will take you. For one time, she was like, you got cash out? And she yelled at me. She definitely spitted my eye. I was like, I don't care. That's my daughter. Aw, thank you.

But I ain't going to lie to you. I just want you to know, you are the queen. Oh, OK. I went too far? Yep. Yep. There's lots of queens in the world. There is a lot of queens. You are the queens in the world. There is a queen.

There's queens before her. Well, right now you are holding down the R&B queen. And fuck that shit. I'm going to give you that. Man, fuck that shit. That's it. You know what I mean? And by the way, it's me saying it. It's me saying it.

So you can sit back and be like, OK, that's Nori said it. But guess what? Nori knows it. Nori knows it. And Nori knows it. Oh my God. Oh my God. God bless you.

Excuse me. Drink champs. You here with me, motherfucker. You know what we're going to do? This is a shot for no reason. Not again. Shot for no reason. We are taking this because you know what? We know you humble and we know you're about to be

on your tour and you. I thought he was like she's about to be on her tour. Check it, check it, check it. In our opinion, the queen of R&B right now, as we sit here, is Keisha motherfucking Cole. Boom. Boom.

Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom.

Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom.

Boom. Boom. Boom. Yes. Right? No. Hip-hop and soul. Hip-hop and soul. Am I wrong? I always describe her as hip-hop R&B. I think so. I want you to continue. Because soul is like, yeah, like that.

Like, she... But she was also soul hip-hop. See, that's where I feel like I come in at. Right. Because I'm hip-hop and R&B, right? I think. Like, she's probably the most hip-hopping R&B right I think Yeah

Like I think she I think she is mmm Popping so so what are we I feel like I? Mean she's in the way didn't she get inducted into the Hall of Fame? Yeah, okay cool. Yeah, so I think that that's that's old vibe. Well right now. I'm gonna be honest with you I think that she will respect the fact that you are She give you your dues is what he's saying. I don't think she's hating I'm beyond I don't think I don't. I don't think she's hating. I'm going to be honest. No, I don't think so either.

I don't think she's hating. I don't think so either, but I think she worked pretty damn hard in this business over these years. As you have. And we have a few of your flowers. You see those flowers right there? We have to give them to your woman. I got my flowers. I ain't going to lie to you.

I sat there, I listened to your music, and I was so happy. I was like, damn, you got a hit after a hit. Can you not make a hit record? I hope I can make another one, yes. God bless you, thank you so much. I really hope so. I really hope so. I hope it doesn't stop with pain.

I hope that it keeps going into a happiness that I can sing about. And once I said, I said we got Keisha Cole on the joint. Like ask about when she was dancing on stage. What the fuck is going to happen when you danced on stage? When I had the Decker type vibe thing? No, no, no, no. You didn't say that right. Wait, wait, what? I like the goddamn shit. What's the problem? Yeah, what the? It was a little big. I mean, I think so I think maybe just a tad bit too big What is it new new and it was cute and it was seven thousand dollars eight thousand dollars something like that

Probably would actually it's probably more than that There's probably about ten or something like that. Plus I had the hat on the socks. Anyway, it was a nice look That's what I thought, you know, I mean and I liked it So I mean there's's going to be times that I feel like my fans or people in general don't like what someone has on, but it was like, you know, at the end of the day, as long as I'm happy and I'm wearing what I want to wear,

like, if the mic is off, then we got a problem. You know what I'm saying? If you got something to say about the way I'm singing or something like that, cool, I could take that constructive criticism, but about my appearance and the way I want to look, you can't do that, like, that's not, I mean, you can if you want to, you know what I'm singing or something like that, cool. I could take that constructive criticism, but about my appearance and the way I want to look, you can't do that. Like that's not, I mean you can if you want to.

You know what I'm saying? But as long as you feel good is all about it. But that ain't gonna mean anything's gonna change. So it's like, I still got it. I might, I mean, I'm sure I'm gonna wear it again. Are we making some noise for that? Yeah, like. We'll make some noise.

That's what we make noise for. I'll fix y'all's quidum about it, because I, it was a little diaper-ish. Nah, men wasn't complaining at all. Yeah, man. It was a little booty-out. All right. I'm just kidding.

A little something going on. Let's take it to the bait. E-40 or too short? Ooh. You got to take a shot. Oh, I forgot to get our drink. Hey, man, you can't leave it with me. Yeah.

I'm sorry. I got to give them... Well, me and Short worked together a few times, so I'm gonna say Short, Short Dog. Okay. But I love 40, I love 40. I'm gonna take a shot for 40. 40's been supportive, they both came out my last tour. So let's say, yeah, let's say both, let's say both. I'm gonna take a shot.

Cause they both been supportive and loving the comedy. Cheers, cheers, cheers, to the legend. Yeah, by the way, I thought them both. Cause I ain't gonna lie, college rasi is a thing. And they both drink chance alumni. So we're gonna do both. We like that. I'm not gonna lie to you. Do y'all smell this weed that I'm smoking?

Yes I do. It smells like Aldo. I'm not sharing with nobody. This is Lisa. It's not endo. It smells smell like endo. All right. Michael Jackson or Prince? Michael Jackson or Prince? Rest in peace to the goats, man.

Rest in peace. I got to put, yeah, y'all got to take a shot. Let's go. Out of respect. Y'all can't be doing that. I'm in. Y'all going to start filling it up with juice. I know it.

Trust me. Not at all. It's no way that y'all going to. I know it. No, no, no. Not at all. There's no way that y'all gonna take all these shots. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Look, I've already done that. And you can smell my shot. Is that what is that?

Every single shot. Check it out. What is it? Taste it. It's mama water. It's mama water. Taste it. They make it in the top of the can.

Oh, shit. I don't think I drank it, but. They make it in the top of the can. Smell it. You want to smell this? It's an elixir. No, I smell it. I, I elixir. This is some scary shit. Don't argue in here.

It's going to be a problem. Do we pick? Yeah, we have a drink staff. Trina or Eve? Definitely two. Damn. Damn, that's tough. Yeah, Trina or Eve? Ooh. Definitely two. Damn. Damn, that's tough.

I work with both of them too. Yeah. Man, they both showed me love. Man, damn it. Yeah, y'all gonna have to drink. That's good. Salo. She trying to get us fucked up.

No, I'm being honest. I promise. All right. NWA or the Looney's? Oh, my god. That is just rude. It's not sounding good. Told you it's the Dominican and the Colombian over there.

They trying to get y'all drunk, not me. Yeah. No. They was trying to get you drunk. No, you wasn't drinking. Yeah. They didn't know you was drunk. That's the game.

Nah. Oh, because I'm supposed to drink if I say, oh, boy. They didn't know you wasn't drinking. They didn't know you wasn't. That's the game. Yeah. Oh, because I was supposed to drink if I say, oh, ball. Yeah, we all drink together. Yeah, we do all. I was drinking, OK. Marsha T, it doesn't count, but it's OK. No, I'm going to be up all night tweaking. OK, so I'm going to take both.

Both, both, both, both, both. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Because I grew up to NWA, then boom, the Looney's. I got five on it, and I don't even smoke here, sorry. Cause I grew up to NWA and boom, the Looney's, I got five on it and I don't even smoke here, but. I'ma be honest. You should have picked the NWA. It's no way. Huh?

I grew up in Oakland, I'm from Oakland. Oh, that's right, Oakland. And they legends, man. That's my people too. Yeah, no, they legends. I've been having five on it for a long time. You feel me? Yeah.

Okay. Come on. All right, the Bay or LA? I've been having five on it for a long time. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Okay. Come on. All right, the Bay or LA? Oh, dude, now that's not nice. That is really rude. That is really... Yeah, you motherfuckers.

Yeah. You motherfuckers. You mean to tell me I can't go back to LA? That's really rude. You put that in Chinese vibes. That was the best answer. She said, that's really rude. That was the best answer. She said, that's really rude. That's not cool, bro.

Damn, 21st, 20 years in Oakland. She got a lot of money in LA. I got a lot of life in LA as well. Do I gotta pour up again? Yeah. Dang, they gonna kick my ass if I try to go back to Oakland though. You gonna pick LA? Uh huh.

You gonna pick LA? Pick LA? I'm asking. No, no, no, no, no. It's both are Oakland. It's both are Oakland, yeah. I gotta be respectful or just go take a L somewhere and somebody gonna come out there, bow, bow, man, oh shit, that's for LA.

That's for Oakland. Oh shit. So we'll save you that both. Both. I can't get my ass beat. We don't see none of that. I been, oh, that's for LA. That's for Oakland. Oh, shit. So we'll save you that both. Both. I can't get my ass beat. We don't see none of that. Even with both, I get my ass beat.

You ain't been to Oakland? Oh, man. All right. I said Oakland. Wait, you say in Oakland? I said, I said. No, we already, it's too late. We already.

You already can't, okay, damn. All right. R&B singers or rappers? Oh, that's... Like, which individuals that you come across do you prefer to interact with? This is a trick question. Okay, um...

No, I'm playing. Yeah, no, I'm playing. Okay, so... This is why I'm playing. I didn't trick with y'all. Because this is what y'all... He don't play. Okay. So I'm tearing up. OK, this is funny. I'm going to have to go with my R&B lovebirds. Boom, I respect that. Yeah, I'm sorry. I respect that. You like that.

Sorry. I love my R&B sisters and brothers. I don't know if this will apply to her, but digital or analog? She's both. Who? Like she's from there. Like digital and like recording.

When you were recording, did you ever have to record on reel to reel? Oh yeah, for sure. So did you prefer that or when it was straight digital? When people were sending tracks to each other or they had to be in the studio with you? I mean, that sound is so much different though. It's so much better on the A track.

I mean, not the A tracks, the Apex or whatever they call it. Yeah, digital. Yeah, the tape. Yeah, the tape. It's more analog. Yeah, analog. But the tape had a feel. Yeah, the A-dats, they had the little datsies. Yeah, yeah, that had a feel to it. It did. I'm going to choose that. Like, first album.

The Little Dwarf, your favorite. The Little Dwarf. Yes, that. And I need a record with Akeisha. You sure? I don't even know if I'm going to still make a record. Oh, no. But I'm going to make one.

You should. When she comes back and she drinks with us, and then we're going to have the studio right there, man. I'm not going to lie. Oh, no. You don't want to see me drinking and singing. That's not a... No, no. Before you start drinking, you record it. and then we're gonna have the studio right there. I'm not gonna lie. Oh no, you don't want to see me drinking and singing. That's not a... No, before you start drinking and recording and then we...

Wait, so you sing first? Yeah, never sing and drink. Never sing and no. Bad deal. I've been promoting that for ever. Yeah, he has. It's funny, the drink champ does not drink when he raps. Yeah, he does not. Bad deal. Thank you. I don't like the way you broke that down. No, thank you.

It's real shit. It's real life, though. No, it's real shit. It's real life. Don't do it. Bad deal. What does a Noriega and Kishi Cole record? He said Noriega.

It's called bipolar. Noriega. I said Yeager. Oh. No, that would be an L collab. Yes. But it's going to be bipolar. The Yeager Meisters?

Yeah, remember that. The Noriega. That's kind the pool. No, Jägermeister's. Remember that. No Jagers. That's kind of cool. Yes, yes. And having a sponsor, period. Yeah. You know, we're all thinking about money. But do you, all right, now, I know this is a side question.

Sidebar. OK. Do you understand how much of a legend you are? Say yes. Stop being you are? Say yes. Stop being so humble. Say yes. She's humble, she's very humble. She's been over two decades.

I mean, I would say that people always say I forget who I am. I don't know what that means. That you forget who you are, remember who you are. Like, I don't think I forgot. I really just think that I'm who I am. Like, I came straight from where I'm from, and I'll never forget it because you can always go back.

So, you keep yourself grounded. I don't think it's even being grounded. It's just being who you are. It's truly genuinely who you are. Got it. Genuine. Love it. It'll get you hurt.

Of course. Heartbroken. But God handles it every time. It's all good. Thank you, God. Amen. I feel like we got to clap. heartbroken but God handles it every time it's all good. Thank you God, amen. I feel like we gotta clap. Clap with a heartbroken chick on the side, yes.

Let's finish, alright we're almost done with Quick Time. Two more. Yeah, cause my drank is filling up. This is a very serious one. Okay. Norrie, before he rewinds or after he rewinds? Wait, wait, time's out, wait, what? Paint my face.

Oh! I saw this, I saw this, so wait. That guy don't even got three. You saw this? No, no, no, I did, I saw this, I saw this, and my thing is, is so everybody's doing it, right? Yeah. No, I mean like.

Obviously, this is not gonna be good, guys. You're great, you're great. But I'm saying like, everybody's doing it, all right? We're about to sell to all grays, too. Nah, I'm up, fast forward time. This is my job. It's fast forward time. I like that, though.

Thank you. Because that's a thing. You just sitting in that, you just sitting in that. I'm living with it. You know what I mean? I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. He don't give a fuck, he want the bag, though.

This is not gonna be good. He want the bag, but I'm not giving him the phone. He should go, he should go. This is not gonna be good. He don't give a fuck, he want the bag though. This is not good. He want the bag but not give it to him. He should go, he should go. This is not gonna be good. No, but seriously like Timberland, right? Everybody's doing it. Everybody's rewinding.

Period. Everybody's rewinding. I'm not mad at it. I am not mad at it. Do what makes you happy. If that's what makes you feel better, do it. Don't stop. So you're saying both?

No. So let me ask both? No. So let me ask you. Wait. Let me ask you. Your man, you are sitting there, and your man is in the bathroom. Bleaching issues.

Rewind in the time. Bleaching, god damn. Rewind in the time. He's bleaching. Bleaching is a time. Are you judging him? Like, what are you, he like that. So. I did it.

Wait. I mean, we got the product. No, my barber does it for me. That's not yeah. So I did it. Wait, so. I mean, we got the product. No, Barbara does it for me. That's not me. So Beijing is a thing. So my thing is don't do it. Beijing, no, we don't talk about Beijing no more. We only rewind.

Don't do it. Yeah, no, this is the brand. His Beijing is the brand. That was the original. Beijing was the original show. Can I ask you a question? Yes, please. Okay, so say my man is in the other room

and he's coloring his hair with rewind. Your man is in another room? Yeah, and I'm like, and I'm wondering if color, I'm following. And then he comes back and you can see that there ain't no hair there, but clearly it's shiny black. Oh hell no.

He taking off the color? I'm saying what is that, Beijing or is it rewind? Which one is it? It's rewind? It's Rewind? That's what it is. Yes, it's Rewind. Don't Rewind then, because if you gotta have a shiny thing, if it is, I'm saying, is it shiny or no?

She just don't like it, but you know how they tape it up like that? Is it shiny or no? See, your man is not doing it the right way. He ain't gonna Rewind it. If you're doing it Rewind? It's the right, that's the right way. Then this is the right way, because you know what?

It's not shiny. It's light. You got hair. Okay, you're not shiny. You're not shiny. Okay, okay right that's the right way because it's not shiny. It's light you got here. Okay Yeah, okay Thank you No He's making him drink for no reason. Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo- Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo- Bo-Bo-Bo-Bo- Bo-Bo- Bo-Bo- Bo-Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo- Bo or respect? Respect. Cause I think that brings loyalty. I respect that. But like DMX says, you gotta know what you dealing with. You gotta trust a snake.

To be a snake. To be a snake? Yeah, he drop bars. You gotta trust a thief. To be a thief. To be a thief. Hello? You gonna respect you as you is.

They said that on our show. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was one of the good. So she really said, I'm a drink. I'm respect. Because we're making a drink. You can trust them to be loyal as to who they are. Like they're going. Yeah. They're going, yeah, like that. Give a shout out to DMX.

DMX. DMX. Have you ever met X? No. You never met him? No. I wish never been fired. It sounds like you guys would have got along really well. We were supposed to do a session but he never showed up. What?

Damn. I was really sad about that. I was really sad. She said he didn't show up, Sly. It's classic. He didn't show up. I- I was sad. The last two weeks of his life,

he was with me almost every single day. Really? Six weeks. Oh, really? Yeah, he was with me every single day. And I was messing with him because it's known that DMX would never show up when you ask him.

So I did it, it's only one place that I did it at in his Phillies and I made sure DMX came every day and he came every day. But I was just bothering him. Yeah. And he came one time every single time. Yeah. Yeah, I was showing up for his record.

I need to hear this story, what? This is stupid. I was in the studio waiting. It was a record for him? Yeah, it was a record for him. Yeah, and I showed up to do the record and he never showed up. Did you end up doing the vocals for the record? I don't think, I didn't think he really wanted, I was like, I was like, yeah, if he didn never showed up. Did you end up doing the vocals for the record?

I don't think, I didn't think he really wanted, I was like, yeah, I was like, yeah, if he didn't show up, I mean, I don't know. Right, there was, y'all didn't work it on anything. I was like, okay. It was like at the beginning, kind of like a my career too, so it's like second album type shit. Wow. That would have been awesome though, because I love the song with Aliyah. I love that record. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes one, two and three on May 21st and episodes four, five and six on June 4th. Add free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple podcasts. I went to see DMX one time. Yeah, I want to know. Thanks, but no thanks.

So I'm going to I hate telling this story because it's crazy. So I went to see DMX DMX call me for 15 times. I said, come see me. I went to go see him and as I walked in, he walked out with Aaliyah. Oh. And I was like, how do I stop this? Wait, they were dated?

Huh? Wait. Wait, what just happened? Yeah, real me? Oh, it was at the movie thing. Yeah. Oh, fire, fire, fire. I don't know.

Right, you don't know. I got it. Let's go back to the season. Okay, so yeah, because of all that. Let's be honest. Have you ever thought about having your own podcast? No. I think based on everything we talked about,

the reality show, that's actually the next progression for you in a sense Well, oh Just you Why you said you would never do another reality show or anything like that another reality show no no no hell no It's a big no No, no, no it broke up my marriage and broke up my family. It's a big no No, no, no, it broke up my marriage and broke up my family. It's a bad deal They fucked some shit up. Yeah. Yeah

I mean, but I write songs so songs are awesome So I'm coming out? I do got a song. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. Oh.

One question. We can't wait. We can't wait. What was it like? Because we didn't say this. What was it like the first time you ever went platinum? I don't love that shit. That's a great question.

Platinum gold. You skipped a hole. Yeah. That's right. I went gold. That's right great question But platinum gold you skipped a whole You gotta go single I had a gold album Yes, yeah, I mean with the album when I did the BET Awards, yeah Then the numbers went up. I was on tour with Kanye and Yeah, and I was opening up for them. Wow, and then it went gold. I was like, yes Nice. Yes. Thank you God I am never going back to Numblom

Yes, thank you God. I am never going back, no I'm playing. I love that. House on the Hill, no I'm playing. Okay, go. I know that. Now what's platinum? Platinum was just man, now I gotta do it again. Pressure.

Gary, gold was cool, gold was chill. It's like okay, okay, I can do this. And then platinum was like, can you do it again? Okay. It's like, dun dun dun dun. And then I did it again, so it was cool. There you go. I did like twice.

She got it, she got it. She got it. She got it. She got it. She got it. She got it. She got it. She got it.

She got it. She got it. She got it. She got it. She got it. She got it. I can stay with you all day. I know. I really enjoy this environment. Next time you come and eat, drink. You're with your people.

I don't think drinking would be the same. OK. What do you mean? In a negative way? I like it sober. OK. Either way. You're welcome.

He just told you it's not a vibe. No. We're not going to let you get saucy either. No, no, no, no. Saucy is really not a good look. Right. I get back to Oakland. It's not a vibe. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you mean to our community, to our society, and to our lifestyle. Listen, Keshia. Give it up. One more shot. Oh, sorry.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta give me another shot. Give me another shot. No, I got it, I got it. But I want to look at you. And I want you to know that. Okay, my eyelash is coming up. And I know you had a hard out at six o'clock.

Yes, okay. And I was so had a hard out at six o'clock, and I was so scared. I was so scared because the one thing that I want to do, and I want to make sure that you, your people, and everybody know, that you deserve to be celebrated. You deserve your flowers. You deserve, three one million percent. And then you were coming to us. And one more time, let me just tell you something, Thank you. You deserve. We won million percent. Don't talk about my eyes after the show. And we go, and we go.

And one more time, one more time. Let me just tell you something, and I want you to reiterate this. Ooh, that was the most terrible shot. Shot, shot, shot, shot, shot. I'm gonna take another one. We're the last everybody. I want you to look around.

I want you to look around. I want you to look around. Yes. And you might think, but everybody here is actually my family. Really? This is my real family. And let me just tell you something.

Related or not. They've been around me so long, and they care because they wanna meet Keisha motherfucking Cole. Oh yeah, right. No, I'm dead serious. Dead serious. No, I'm dead serious.

Look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look. All right, look. I don't believe it. But thank you. I appreciate that. No, I appreciate it. I do love you. This is the first time anybody's ever said that.

But that was hard. I'm a little smacked. Yeah, that's right. Wait, wait, wait. Are you a foodie? Yes. Okay. All right, let me limit it before I end the interview.

Wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Wait, wait, wait. He's getting a Sprint Zappert on him. Hold on, hold on. No, no, no, no. Wait a minuteatt and Stafford on the phone. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Wait a minute, let me see. Do you like Carbone? Carbone, I haven't been to Carbone yet.

Okay. I just moved to Miami. Oh, yeah. Oh, you've been to a Chateau? Yeah, the house fires in LA took my house and then I moved. So you were in LA, so all right. So what's your favorite restaurant in LA? Moonshadows was like right down the street.

Moon Shadows in Malibu? That was right down the street from my house. It burned down because of the Malibu fires? Okay, now you know, understand that I'm a foodie. Okay, let's continue. Yes, yes, yes. Moon Shadows. Boas, cool.

I like Boas. Boas and down, but Soho House? Oh, did I say that? Boas and Soho House. Oh yeah. Downstairs from Soho House? Oh, did I say that? Boa's in Soho House. Oh yeah. Downstairs, from Soho House. Oh, I've never been to Soho House before. You've never been to Soho House?

You didn't realize that Boa's is upstairs in Soho House? It's too mushy. Oh my God. I don't know that shit. I don't like anything really small portion like that. Yeah. You know, we want to eat some real. We want to eat some.. We're getting real now.

Yeah, I thought I was going to say this interview. That is not cool because I want the membership. No, but I don't like the like small portions like that. It's like I don't I'm not what am I getting out of that? I like that. You've been little for a long time. You don't need a lot of food. Okay. Whoa. Put your drink down. You've been little for a long time. You don't need a lot of food. Okay. Whoa! You don't need a lot.

Put your drink down. I'm just saying, you don't need a lot. Yeah, you don't even know me like that. Okay. You want a lot. So I don't need a lot. No, I do. I eat.

I eat. Ask my security. Oh, you eat? My security. No, he's a foodie. That's my, that's my, that's my. And he asked him in every foodie spot. He had mom's spaghetti.

Eminem, Detroit. Wait, Eminem in Detroit? Yeah! Eminem? That's my that's my I need one more before you get out of here. Okay, just don't zoom in my last So God is calling you. Uh-uh. No God? I ain't ready. No, not like that. He's just beeping you. Not like that.

All right. We're going with this. You're about to have the best performance of your life. What meal are you gonna eat? I don't like this conversation. No. I don't like it neither. No.

Ask yourself that. Yeah, ask yourself that. Norrie, okay. God's calling you. God's calling. And you're about to perform. This is very simple for me. So what song are you going to perform? Car Bones.

And I'm going to rewind my time and go to Car Bones. And I'm going to go to Carp Hall. I'm gonna go to Carp Hall. That was not a good segue. So God is asking the same thing. You don't have to rewind nothing. But he's asking, not your last meal, but a meal that you have to go to work. You make it like the last meal on Earth.

Last supper. I'm trying to kill it. It's giving. Not the last supper. Not the last supper. The supper that you have to save the world. Okay. What are you gonna have?

Okay, I like that. Cause love gonna save the world. All right, so say that. This is this meal that you gotta save the world. Okay, boy. What is Keisha eating? I'm gonna have to call somebody grandma to make me some Thanksgiving dinner.

That's also good. That is what I'm gonna have to do. That's what I'm gonna have to do. Gonna need some fried chicken. It could be someone you know. Some yams, some macaroni and cheese, some greens, some stuffing. She wins.

And then we can do it like that because that's the only thing that's gonna keep you really cool. She wins. She wins. She wins. And it's not the last supper. Hold on, we got one more. We got one more. That's gonna keep you He learned something maybe she didn't But we have to ask this question. You just showed her name is Kish. Kish, come on. That's the case, man.

That's, cuz of, listen, hold on, I'm sorry. You know, I'm over here. I'm way over here. I love you, Sonny. But this is the thing. What was it like, what did you learn, period, from working with Missy and Kim? That's it.

He actually said something. But that was Sonny asking questions. and Kim. That's it. What was it like? That made it. Sonny's asking questions. What did you learn from that? That was a beautiful record. And they didn't want the record. Like you said, you had to put your own money into the record. No, no, it was gonna be the one that didn't care if it was a good record.

And when Missy comes on the show, Oh man, we need this. Cause I'm putting the word out there that this is the safe environment for us. It is safe. It's the room. And man, we need that. Because I'm putting the word out there that this is the safe environment. That's absolutely safe. That's the bro. And then, yo, Missy. That's the safe environment. That's the bro.

I put that word out there. So when Missy comes up here. That's a good question. I can't believe it. Thank you for saying that, though. I appreciate it. I asked her the same question that you're asking me, because I freestyle let it go in the studio.

And what I learned, Missy was laying down. She gets, sorry, she had a migraine. And she was laying there. And I was in the studio and what I learned, Missy was laying down, she gets, oh sorry, she had a migraine and she was laying there and I was in the studio freestyling all these different melodies and she said, that's it right there. Tell her that's it right there. I'm like, I was just freestyling like I just wasn't even, she said no, you got the melody,

now come out here and write the song. I had freestyled the first verse, the second verse, and was done with it. Like I didn't realize that you trust yourself. Going there, and if you know that's the vibe, you know it sounds good, you trust yourself. Like I didn't even realize that. But let me ask you, this might be a dumb question.

When you say freestyling, is it the same for R&B as it is for rappers? Like you're freestyling singing. Off the top. Just off the top. I learned that from Jewel. Jewel that was on Death Row Records, she taught me how to freestyle sing.

And some tracks live like that, like you freestyle them? I freestyled a few on the way it is, yo. Wow. Love that you had my back. I freestyled that. When Dwayne Wiggins was in the studio, that's it, right? I was like, yo, I gotta learn how to trust myself. But I'd be needing people in the studio with me to say,

that's it right there. Like, I keep going and going and going. I freestyled love the chorus of it. I thought I messed up. When I did love. It was like, my voice cracked. But it worked. They said, no, your voice did not go in there.

No, I'm not recording that. That was not good. Like, no, go in there and sing that. Wow. That's my favorite part. That's dope. Sorry. That's my favorite part.

It was imperfection. I've always been mad at people. I'm like, who? What did they do to her? Who was that guy? Yeah, but if you have a question I really, I've watched episodes. I've seen, yeah, I've seen them. I've seen the dedication. I know that, okay, so let me, this my last, then we getting out of here. I promise we getting out of here.

But how do you keep yourself healthy? Because all of this drinking at every podcast is insane. I know one time I seen you say, oh yeah, like I'm detoxing and I'm riding a bike. I'm going down there. I think it was one time you asked me to come on the podcast, it was maybe a year ago or something like that. I was like, wait, so y'all still drinking on the show?

Like, how do you do that? Like, because I got friends that actually endorse like alcohol brands and like, how do you go to the club and you drink on it? And like, I'm detoxing, I'm taking my. I'm riding the. Yeah! Run, Chas!

Run, Chas! Run, Chas, you got to detox, you got to fast. I love that. You got to balance it. We in. It's all about balance, yeah. Because, I mean, I mean, I mean, I tell you the truth. And go to the doctor, motherfuckers.

This show is not about, it's actually, you know, we drink, we do that, but it's not about that. Buttershot. The show is actually about giving people flowers. Yeah, it's not about the drinking at all all. Yeah, you know, and um. I love that. It's about you guys, yeah. Luckily, y'all guys was intoxicated because I probably wouldn't have got these flowers.

Thank you so much, Nauble. Like I told you, man, like, you know, these are actually my family. These are actually my family members. And, you know, depending on who we actually talk to, like this is the first time that everyone is like, man, I want to meet Keisha Cole. People are coming to me and they're pulling me to the side.

I accept it. Yes, they're pulling me to the side. And they're like, yo, please, I know this is different. You know, it's other artists. Are you being serious right now? No, I'm not. I'm dead serious. I'm dead serious.

100%. That's my son, that's my son, that's my son. That's my, my, my, my childhood friend, that's my brother-in-law. These are all people, they all sitting back and they're like, yo, this is different. Everyone works on the scent. Everybody.

I think you have to love shit. Yes, and this is what we want. There ain't enough love going around in the world. Yes, and this is what we want. I appreciate that. Because we, I have 10,000 more questions, but I know that they told me you had a heart out. She's got motherhood to deal with.

And you have motherhood to deal with. I do, my baby. And you know what? But you know what? But let me end this in the real way. OK. With a shot. Oh, shh.

OK. More, another, more, another. We'll do that. If you have. No, no, no, no. No, no, Oh, shit. Okay, come on. Jamie, can I get one more? We're gonna do that. If you have. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. I was kidding, but I'm gonna tell you. Let me end this.

You, you, you. Let me end this in the real way. Thank you. Let me end this in the real way. You are a queen. Yes, you is. You are a legend. You are icon. And you are are legend. Mmm, you are icon

and you are person that we're gonna continue to salute and Respect and celebrate and love every single time. Thank you. God bless you. I think it gets uncomfortable Why is there anything that I be like, hey? She's like, no, we just... Let me get out of here. She's, she's, she's... But, but, but... God bless you, how about that? I'm gonna take my cap. But, but, but... Let me tell you something. We was so happy. Am I saying?

Absolutely right. We were so happy. It was like, she's, she's gonna come to our show. Heck yeah. It's an honor, yeah. That's right. Heck yeah. And we would just want to tell you

that we honor, respect everything you did. And I had 15,000 more questions. Oh God. But- Next time. Yes. After the tour. Talk about your tour real quick.

If you could get that up. She did, she did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely did, I definitely did. 20th year anniversary starts July 1st. And we will be going overseas. And Lil' Kim will be on there. We have Friday, we have Jeremiah.

Oh, dope. We have, um, A Marie. Oh, man, we got a Tink. Oh, Tink. Baby Girl from Chicago. We got, um, we, yep, I said, hey Marie. And I think that's, no, Wale.

Wale? Yes, we have a 20 year- Drink Champs alumni. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we doing our thing. And I love all those artists, so I'm super excited to like get on those stages and just promote love, just promote love. There you go.

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