Drink Champs - Episode 456 w/ Onyx

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legendary group, Onyx!Sticky Fingaz and Fredro Starr step in the building with us for a no-holds-barred convo that’s straight from Southside Jamaica, Queens to the Drink Champs table. You already know—bottles get popped, stories get told, and legends speak.From their early days under the wing of Jam Master Jay to blowin’ up the game with “Slam,” Onyx breaks down how they brought that mosh pit energy to hip-hop and never looked back. They talk rap battles, label wars, surviving the industry, and staying authentic in a world full of clout chasers. Fredro and Sticky even tap into their acting careers—how they flipped bars into scripts and stayed true through it all.It’s loud, it’s unfiltered, and it’s Onyx at full throttle. If you love that raw 90s energy and want to hear how two kings built a legacy off pure grit and aggression, this episode is a must-listen. Ain’t no soft talk here—just hip-hop history with a shot of Henny. Slam the volume up and tap in. Onyx came to tear the roof off.Make some noise for Onyx! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 *Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&G’s + more: * https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps *Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow Drink Champs: https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps DJ EFN https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions N.O.R.E. https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreaga  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And let me just tell you something. Let me tell you something, not only alum, but let me just tell you something. I got to go to these brothers, this scography, and I realized how much if it wasn't for them, there wouldn't be me. It's them, it's Marv Deep and then CNN. But if it wasn't no onyx,

then I wasn't supposed to say their name. If it was, and I looked through and I was so happy because I got to see my wife, get to see me be a fan again. And I just listened to you because I know these are my friends, these are my brothers, these are people that, but it cannot take away what y'all did, the foundation y'all laid down, and the route that I followed behind y'all. Even down to the, I got here now.

It's all right. It's all right, we won. We won. But this is one of the, and I'm saying this sincerely, this is one of the most legendary groups of all time. We, us, should be honored, and we are honored, to have you, to be here, and we, we one million percent is gonna give you your flowers today I've been on tour with y'all. I've been all oh, We have so much history together, but the one thing that I've never asked and I've

seen just been asked, y'all shot up the sauce awards. No, no, don't say y'all. Don't do that. So I didn't shoot up shit. It's off the hook. I'm not down on the low for sauce. I'm on the low for sauce. I'm on the low for sauce.

I'm on the low for sauce. I'm on the low for sauce. I'm on the low for sauce. I'm on the low for sauce. I'm on the low for sauce. Don't don't like that. No, you know, I didn't shoot up shit So long, you know Is it something that we knew and we forgotten and it came back now social media was I don't know what I should do I know what else they shit were so so what do people think people thought that it was like They thought it was part of the show cuz we know okay, we did it on throw your guns in the head, right? I'm saying so, you know once we They thought that it was like... They thought it was part of the show, because we did it on Throw Your Guns in the Air. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, once we, you know... Oh, now it's me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like... Well, you know, it was on my stage. But, yeah, we just acted like it was part of the show. You know what I'm saying? We did get patted down. After? Hell yeah!

Police was in the dressing room immediately. Oh, wow. It was like, where that thing at? It left the building. Somehow. Like somebody took it, you know. I was collusioned. So what, we drink a Heineken?

I mean, I can't drink champagne, so only he was a Heineken. We have Hennessy. We got Henny for you. Is Louis the 13th? I don't know what 13th it is. You ain't got Habiki, Mr, um, um, Mr. Lee? We got Habiki. You want to do Japanese whiskey? Japanese? Yeah. I'll try. Okay, you try it?

All right, come on. Japanese whiskey. I'm doing it. Habiki. Okay. I always drink it under the table. So... No, no, no, no, no, no. I want me to respect you. I want to... No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You know what? I'm going gonna stab you with that right now. I am not challenging you at all.

Let me tell you something. Just, nigga, you're on the run eating. Yes, yeah. We proud of you too, I like that. No, no, no, no, it's y'all dick. We outside. Let me tell y'all something. Besides having some of the illest

psychography in the world, I'm going to tell you something. Buster Robb says this all the time. I'm going to give him this as a solo artist. This is his birthday. I forgot the call.

Nobody can perform after Onyx, bro. I'm giving it to him. You tried to perform after Onyx, bro. I'm giving it to them. You tried to perform after? The people are like, it's too late. They took all that energy. I'm telling you, I've been on tour with them a million times and I'm telling you as a friend,

I begged the promoter, let me go first. No, I'm not serious. No son. I'm serious. I'm like, I can't, I can't. Y'all, you have, you guys have one of the best stage performances I have ever seen. I think.

Ever in life. Crazy. Do you guys know that though? I know that. I know that for a fact. I've been doing this for a long time now, for real. But you gotta know that though. I know that I know that for a fact We learn from Jam Master J run DMC Was was with run DMC like they do us on tour with the Kings of rap like the Kings of rock We had to learn from that from there. Yeah, that gave us all all of all the training we needed

You know I'm saying Jam Master J say yo You got a them with energy. And we made the records with shot skills and all of that. You know what I'm saying? It's just crazy, man. But let me ask you. I had to, my first album, I had to make a whole album

that didn't reflect my show performance. So the War Report, it didn't reflect who I wanted to be. What you just said was Jam Master Jay told y'all from the beginning. So did you always kind of make the music to reflect the stage performance? I mean, I guess when we was making the music, we was thinking about the stage. Oh, you were?

We was thinking, yeah, we was thinking about, you got to think about time for some time for some action. Right. That era is... That era was like, we was looking at that on TV. We was looking at Daz and Bex on TV. High energy, yeah, yeah. We was looking at Naughty by Nature, Leaders of the New School. These are the niggas we looking at while we writing our album. Gangsta. So we look, so it's like, okay, these niggas is looking at while we writing our album. Gangsta. So it's like, okay, these niggas is doing that while we writing our shit. These is our competition.

We gotta come iller than these niggas. And respectfully, we gotta kill these niggas. And y'all took it over the top. And we came with Back the Fuck Up. We kicked our way in. You know what I'm saying? And we took the whole Queens with us. We took the whole Queens with us, you know what I'm saying? We took the whole Queens with us.

It wasn't just us, it was Onyx, Southside, Hollis, Jamass, it was crazy. Like it wasn't just us. QGTM. I'm going to be honest with you. I had one of the biggest arguments ever in my life because of y'all and y'all have no idea. You did Vlad TV and you said,

Michael Jordan cut his hair for Onyx. And a lot of people, they doubted you. Right. I would dare. See? Like I was there. I was like, holy shit. Facts.

I didn't put the facts together like that, but I argued with y'all for y'all so much. I was like, yo, Fredro is not freaky. Right. He actually is, like, now, I don't know the exact timeline, but I remember Michael Jordan cutting his hair,

and Onyx was the hottest thing in the motherfucking world. Exactly. Yo, I was shocked at Michael Jordan, you know what I mean? And Onyx was the hottest thing in the motherfucking world. Exactly. Shout out to Mike Bajor. You know what I mean? So just so you know, I had arguments almost fight to shoot at. And you dropped another two, right? With these bears. Cut a hair ball and named your tour Onyx.

I forgot that. I forgot that. I do remember that. I mean... Let's do it. Let's put it back. What's that? Yo, but... Yo, E. You just want it to be there. No, I, I. Let's do it. Let's do it. I'm gonna put it back. What's that?

Yo, but, yo E. She want it to be in there. No, I gotta say, you laughing, but. The British version is pretty good. The British version is different. Yeah, yeah, it's just the phonics. Yes. That's crazy.

That's how you control sound. But, let me tell you something. I tried to, I looked at everything. And when people start, they was like, yo, Fredros bucket. And I was like, heros bucket. I was like he's not I'm not Like we had a movement we came out your niggas was cutting a ship with the whole fact You know the fab five niggas and then and this thing and didn't to pot came with the boy like we it was a movement Right, that's how niggas was look Tyson Beckford, you know, we had a lot,

the ball head movement was moving. You know what I'm saying? If you had a question about Bunker, you'd probably had a ball head. No, no, no, no, I ain't gonna lie. I looked and I was like, he might be most accurate ever. And people who don't, because you know,

it's a big thing, it's Michael Jordan, right? Like Michael Jordan is like, this big, but just think about that era. Think about that era. And ball heads. By the way, I bit y'all shit too. I followed y'all with the ball head. I have years, I have ball head.

And the camouflage. And the count, you know what I'm saying? And Grammy. Yeah, right. And Grammy. I was like, hey! Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute. What's going on here?

Y'all did your own shit. No, no, no. I didn't think about that. I told, it was so funny, because I woke up, you know, it was going through, whatever, whatever. But I told my wife, I was like, yo, I owed him.

And she was like, I never heard you say that. And I was just like, I owed him. Like I owed him. Like I owed him. Like I owe y'all. You know what I mean? You're singing in your voice. No, I'm dead serious. I owe y'all, you know what I mean? You're sending your voice. No, I'm dead serious.

I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to like, this is, if it wasn't for Onyx, certain part of Queens wouldn't even exist. So I want to tell y'all, our show is about giving people their flowers when they can smell them. And smoke them. And smoke them. That's right. They thoughts of when they can smell them. And smoke them. And smoke them. That's right.

They thoughts when they can tell them. And they drinks while they can drink them. And let me just tell you something. I am honored to give both of y'all, y'all flowers. That's right, because the first time y'all didn't get it. That's what's up. Thank you, thank you. And we got to thank them because they came early

to drink chance. Yeah. We didn't even have it together. We was in LA with them, remember? So Snoop said this is better than a Grammy because it comes from your people. Look at that right here. Flowers right here. Thank you. And let me just tell you something.

This is crazy. Thank you Drink Champs. Let me just tell you something. I got to work with Sticky. And I did a work with Sticky. Mm. Mm. And I did a record with Sticky. Mm. And Sticky directed the video. Mm.

And I'm gonna tell you this. It's the illest video I've ever like, like what I say is, this motherfucker, he leaned on the floor. He jumped on top of cars. This motherfucker's probably the illest director ever. And you know what's fucked up about our people? And I'm saying hip hop, I don't mean a race.

Right. Is we gotta, we have, we, like we are the best version of us. Like of course Sticky's supposed to be dope because Sticky shot 300,000 videos. Exactly. Right? But why aren't other people knowing that?

Why aren't, you know what I'm saying? Right. Like why aren't, so, but I am so happy to say that is one of the illest videos I've been a part of and it's one of the illest directorial debuts. Like when I see what you was doing, so I wanna give you flowers on that as well. Because a lot of us just wanna be,

we just wanna be the product and not produce the product. And I saw that with you and I was just like, yo, and you text me or I'll text you, I forget. And I gotta get a video directed by Sticky. You gonna direct my next video? Yes, yes, it's just I've been bullshitting on music. I've been bullshitting on music. I see the new shit though.

Okay, yeah, yeah. But I heard that you guys are working on a movie. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need the Onyx movie. I need the Onyx movie. Yeah, we got the Onyx movie. We need at least $5 million for that,

because it's just so much shit, you know what I'm saying? So we're going to tap into that. The script is written, though. Oh, OK. The script is written. The Onyx movie is called Slam Boys, you know what I'm saying? It's dope.

You can't write. I just dropped the movie, what, I don't know, three weeks ago, it's called Brooklynite. Basically, it's like the urban version of Romeo and Juliet. Like, Romeo produced this star, then it didn't drop. And next month,

Fred Jones put together the movie, The Tunnel. Yeah. Go see Brooklynite on Tubi TV, it's free. Yeah, The Tunnel. The Tunnel, The Tunnel? The see Brooklyn on Tubi TV. He's free. Yeah, the tunnel. The tunnel? The tunnel? The tunnel.

I was in the tunnel. Was you in the tunnel? I mean, you asked about it. You asked about me too. The tunnel was a place in New York City. It was one of the illest clubs in New York. Now, is this a documentary or is this a full-length full-length? It's a movie.

It's about the tunnel, loosely based on the tunnel, but it's not about the tunnel. It's about an experience that I had going to the tunnel. Oh, wow. It's about these two kids went tickets to go see a famous rap at the tunnel, and they cut through the projects. It was Chelsea's projects. And when they cut through the projects, niggas started chasing niggas. This is a true story.

Niggas started chasing me in projects and all that, so I made a movie about it. Oh, wow. And it's filmed already? No, I'm filming it. But I build different characters. I made a story about it. It's kind of crazy. It's like the New Warriors.

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every Wednesday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you go to find your podcast. So now let me ask you, both of y'all, both of y'all have a lot of experience with being in films. Is it hard to write a script? Is it hard to write a script for you guys?

Only if you say this. I'm asking. I'm telling you. No, no, no. It's only as hard as you say it is. I'm telling you this, I told this other writer about too, right? I said, look, in order to start something,

you gotta start something. If you write one page a day, you'll be done in 90 days. Right. And you write more. First you start with one, then five, and then that odd, you go back and copy edit it. You know it's not hard.

Right, right. It's hard to not do it. It's real. That's real. That's the hard part. That's real. You know what I'm saying? So let me ask y'all, right?

One of the biggest things was when DMX came out. Everyone said, man, he's a copy version of Onyx. Right? I mean- I never heard that. I never heard that either. Yeah, I did. I did. He's a copy version of Onyx. Right? I never heard that. I never heard that either. Yeah, I did. I did.

I heard he's fragile and sticky combined. He's what? Fragile and sticky combined. I heard he's Onyx O-1. Yes, that's what I meant. Yeah, okay, yeah. Okay, that's what I meant. That he was a different version of y'all.

Right, right, right, right. He always showed y'all love. That's the influence. He always showed y'all love. He always fights first. He's never. I can see energy. Yeah, for sure. But, like, you know, I had that,

cause you know, when I came out, they compared us to Mobb D. And I had to ask like, yo, do y'all like that comparison? Like, I had to ask them like when I, when I became worthy of being able to ask them. How did y'all feel about that comparison when DMX came out? And DMX DJ said, who's your DJ? Who's your DJ first?

I'm sorry. I got this. I got this. I know. OK, but now he's considered one of the greatest of all time, so this is, if he's considered the greatest of all time. Put it like this, the first time I heard Get At Me Dog, I was like, who the fuck is this?

What the fuck is, I'm a fan of hip hop, right, right. I don't hate, right. When I heard it, I was loving it. Cause what was coming out before that was trash. It was was a lot of trash coming out the DMX came out Morning, you know I'm saying so that ever was part we loved it And that's when we got him on a record, shut him down. We had to get him on a record. I'm on that remix, sir.

Come on, you on a remix? That's mine. You know what I'm saying? You on the remix? We got Big Hunt on a remix, Big Hunt on a remix. Yes. And that's the only time we started, cause we, that the fuck, we wasn't fucking with nobody.

Yeah, we wasn't fucking with nobody, yes. That was the first time we collaborated with other artists. I never said this publicly. Thank you. Was so happy to get that call. You remember that studio session? I was so happy because one, I'm going to be honest with y'all. Y'all one to one.

Mm. I don't think there'll ever be another Onyx. So you motherfuckers that's witnessing this greatness. You motherfuckers embrace this shit because I'm involved, but I know what this is. Who called you? I believe it was Chris Lighty or- Irv Gotti.

Or Irv Gotti? Yes, Irv Gotti was the A&R for the album. Oh. He ain't not that whole album. Okay, hold on. He was in the field, we be doing verses, he be like, that shit ain't ill enough. We was like, who this nigga?

But it gave us the battery, that shut him down album, we had that nigga, and he was just did a whole time. That was his first A&R job that Russell gave him. Wow, let's make some noise for Irv Gotti. Straight up. Because a lot of people don't know that. X1 was around, Rest In Peace to X1. We had a new flavor,

because we was going to One Thirsty First, we was going back to the hood, and we got the Gang Green Niggas, and X1 was the standout rapper from Gang Green. And he was coming to the studio, giving us that new flavor. This is like 97, 98 right about now, right? Yeah, I'm 98, so it gotta be 97. is like 97, 98 right about now, right? Yeah.

I'm 98, so it's gotta be 97. 97, 98, so we came out 93, that's just five years later. Wow. We tapped back into the streets with X1, that's where you hear records like Street Niggas and the worst with Wu-Tang, me and X1 going back and forth. That's that wave, you know what I'm saying? Going back and forth.

Gotta give it up for X1, one of the illest rappers ever, straight up, you know what I mean? And just, you know. I mean he and just you know Now, um, I'm gonna give you our story One time I'm with Nas And Nas Asks me Rock him has to show do you want to go to?

Rock him show and I was like, of course. He's an Airbnb in Rakim. Airbnb in Rakim. And I went and I watched Nas watch Rakim. And I was on tour with y'all. I did that with y'all every night. Wow. Every single night.

I watch y'all. I don't know if y'all knew this. But every night, because y'all was crushing shit, and I was like, I got to'all. I don't know if y'all knew this, but every night, cause y'all was crushing shit, and I was like, I gotta get better. So I would watch y'all, and I'm gonna tell you the truth. Y'all are one of the illest live performance. He's the hip hop. The illest.

No, the illest, yeah. Okay. And I got to see y'all every night from Russia to Germany to a homeboy just said he was in Germany and he was actually in Dusseldorf with me. And I got to see that. But this is what I always wanted to ask. Is that something that y'all perfected the stage show or this is something that just came along because the music went wooden

my cousin So the blood is fucking kinetic When I started was four members right big DS rest in peace Sunsee still living but he's not active with the group. Never said he was out of the group, but he's not active with the group. So it leaves me and my cousin, right? Stick fingers. So it's a duo now.

I think once the duo got together, I think the show got better, actually, because I think it was just, like he said, the blood. You know what I'm saying? No disrespect to Sun C, but he probably felt that way too. That's probably why he not performing with us. He don't perform with us because he don't, he just don't want to rock with us.

Me and this nigga grew up like brothers from, it's all in my book, Back the Fuck Up, the Story of I-Lex. I wrote my book, nigga. Nigga had to write my book when I'm dead. I wrote my own book. It's my story, nigga. And everything is in there, this is real shit. You feel what I'm saying?

So you. He trying to burn him from the top of the bed. This book is crazy, son. I was a kid. You know what I'm saying? Burn this shit from the bottom of the bed. Little shit, little shit. Playing with matches under the bed,

I'm sleeping with a bed tape shit. He bigger to blow it out, and then he got too big. I couldn't blow it out. Right. So I ran in the living room, and I was watching TV. He just on the bed.

You know, my Martin had left. Well, no. You know, my mom and his mom left, so they stopped it. I can't remember after that, because I'm asking. But yeah, but the show, we put a lot of work into it. You know, I watch niggas like Doug E. Fresh. Control, how he control his shit. Because to me, it's not about the rhymes.

It's about when the record stopped, with how you connecting with your crowd. You know what I'm saying? How you talking to these niggas, how you making them react to you, making these niggas say this, making these niggas say that. That's the show, because they want to be part of the show.

You ever see the movie, the Rocky Horror Show? People actually, they go see the show, and they screaming, they know the words. Our show is like the hip hop Rocky Horror Show. Because I got fans that have been to the show 30 times, 20 times. Like they just keep coming back. I'm like, Oh, what up? Nigga, what up?

Nigga, you here again? What show is this? This is number 35. Like for real. That's family. That's family. That's family. That's family.

Right. Ice cold. I was on tour with y'all. Y'all fast. And by the way, let me just tell you something. Doing this show, I now can look at algorithms and I can see who and where and why. And I can say, I don't belong here.

I don't belong here. With y'all, with y'all. I'm going to be honest with you. Y'all everywhere, bro. Like I went everywhere with y'all. Yeah, yeah. And I will say they're going to'all are everywhere, bro. Like, I went everywhere with y'all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was saying, they're gonna have a bad show in Poland. Like, or maybe I'm gonna have a bad show in Poland. There's no black people in Poland.

Man, not with y'all. Y'all, your music is universal. Our music. Yes, yes. Our music is universal. Do you know that we come out of Topper NY? T-O-M-Y? Yeah, definitely.

Every show. That's our intro music. Right? Right? We play with the Goin' Sting. I got the mic out here. Goin' live. This is real shit.

We see it and you know why? It bring me to the hood. You ever hear that? I'm not in public no more. I don't know what to do. I'm in tweed. I don't know what to do. I be like T-O-M-Y.

It bein' N-Y. That's our intro. I'm not pulling him. I don't know what to do with him. I'm in twinge. I don't know what to do with him. I be like, chill, man. Why? You're baiting me. Why? That's our intro. Y'all just got to chill, brother. You want to do a shot?

That's our intro. Who want me to shoot? Shot. No, no, no. I don't want you to shoot nobody. Can we do a, Jamie, you have the habiki? I don't drink, but I'm going to sit. I know.

She ain't going to sit on the habiki. But I don't see the habiki. Where's your puppy? No, no, no. I got the habiki. She going to pour. Can I have a habiki? Two cups. Two cups. And by the way, I'm going to. I know, I know. She ain't with the Habiki, but I know she's a Habiki. Where's your public? No, no, no, I got the Habiki. She gonna report. Can I have a Habiki? Two Habikis.

Two cups. And by the way, I'ma be honest with y'all. I'ma be honest with y'all. This is dope. I'ma be onyx with y'all. Ooh. See? I need my publisher.

I think we gonna do that song. I like that. I'ma be onyx with y'all. We have to be onyx. Honest with onyx. I'ma be onyx with y'all. I'ma be onyx with y'all. I'ma be onyx with y'all.

I gotta be onyx. Yo, let me just tell you something. Oh, shit, all right. The queen's in the jail, you know what? No, I'm gonna be Alex. I'm gonna be Alex for sure. I gotta be Alex. Let me just tell you something. The Queen's energy. You know what? No, I'm taking that. Sikki is a real drinker. You can't, I've tried.

You can't out drink this. And I'm a real smoker. I'm not gonna play with you. Straight up. Like you heard, you see me just now. We have offices. I drink coffee, he drink tea. I drink, he smoke.

Yes. You know what I mean? I'm a night nigga, he a morning nigga. I'm a morning nigga. Oh, so here's something that is a beautiful thing. That I've been trying for years to get. Tries to actively not do. All morning, I've been trying to communicate and get through to these people.

We got through to them. And I am proud to say, for the first time in my life, I'm actively running the New York City Marathon for the first time. That shit is crazy because you know I live in Miami and I love Miami but I'm a New Yorker. Wow. You predicted it. On the run. On the run. It's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. So all morning. Think about it.

Your name. And here's what's fucked up, baby. Take it away. I don't know. You probably don't even know why. They was like, yo, just in case, because we got like four members and I'm doing it with my son. So.

So we got four members. How old is that? He's 18. He's going to bust your ass. No, no, no, no. He's definitely way better than me. No, no, no, no, no. He's definitely way better than me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But they were like, if you want, we can squeeze in two more as security. And I thought of you and I was like, damn, JP probably not ready. Like, like. JP, are you ready, JP? JP decided. Are you ready?

How many miles is that? How many miles? 26.2 miles. Oh hell no. 22.2 miles. I ain't built for that. 22.6. I'm not built for that.

Sonny's ready for you. I don't even know if I can do the three miles he be running. You can't just spread it out. No. It's too much money. So what's good is, what's good is these people run the whole New York City. So my only favor that I have to do is I have to run the Queens and Flush and Metal,

which I wanted to mute this shit and be like, oh, this motherfucker. Like, you know, so my first one would be in Queens. Wow. So I just wanted to say that and get back to the- No, no, because it's the real shit man. You know, a lot of rappers, you know, we, I say we survivors.

We've been doing this for a long time. And I think how you, you inspirational, because before I came on this show, I've been running up and down the hill. I say, yo, I'm about to do drink champs. He might ask me to go running in the road. You know what I'm saying? I am, I am.

So now you exactly so, I'm like, I gotta get right. So you posting it, you know, you're inspirational in your journey. Everybody has a journey and it's a wave in life. You know what I'm saying? Everybody goes through things, but to come on top, that's the most important thing because we have a lot more to live.

I was just in a club with Melly Mel. He was still in the club, I left. I said, in a club with Melly Mel. He was still in the club. I said, yo, he out clubbing me. Like, wait a minute. Like, come on. So we got a lot. And he's way older than me. I'm just saying like, we have a lot more to go. You know what I'm saying? We got to stay, we got to stay healthy, man. You know what they say though, right? What? E-L-T stay fit, die anyway.

Damn. You got your shot? I do. You know what they say though, right? What? ELT, stay fit, die anyway. Damn. You got your shot? I do. We got it. But not us, though. Well, let me tell you something. Holy fuck.

Damn Master J, arguably one of the illest creators in this game. Facts. He put y'all on direct. How did that connection develop? How did y'all meet? Jam Master, J.A. I know y'all told this story many a time. Yeah, we covered it on Dream Chance before too,

but we wanted to do it all over again. Y'all forgot. Well, you know, you know, you know what it's just saying, y'all must see these niggas in traffic. You know what it's just saying? We really saw this thing in traffic. Word up. We had them like we had we was coming from Jones Beach.

And I'm saying like, like 80, 89, maybe 90. And they had the Jones. Queens was a freak. Nick, what's it called? I think that's right. And you had a freak. Yeah. And it's like all the college kids will come down there. So leaving the beach, everybody's trying to go home.

It was the highway, it was crowded. And the man next to us happened to be Jam Master Jay. That's crazy. He wasn't going nowhere. We had him. We had him. So we connected with him. And he let us smoke with him.

And we smoked weed with him. That's how y'all connected? You asked him to smoke a blunt? Yes. That's how we connected. We in the van with J, the little nigga smoking weed in the van with J, the big band. Him and Marv, his brother, rest in peace. We in the van like, yo, imagine being in the J Master,

J's van smoking weed with Run DMC, a little nigga like, just imagine that feeling, just like, yo, like kidnap me nigga, I don't even wanna leave this motherfucking van, like I'll stay here. Type shit like for real, like nigga kidnap me, nigga. I don't even want to leave this motherfucking van. Like, I'll stay in here. Type shit like for real, like, nigga, we was with the God of Rap. It's you two? Y'all two?

That was me, Sun C, Big D, yes. Sticky wasn't even in the group yet. But the group was already established. Yes. Yeah, we already had a record with Profile Records. Okay. Called I Don't We Do It Like This. So we was already, you know,

trying to get deals and shit like that. We even got a deal with Profile. Profile was legit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On the side note, that had to be something that was heartfelt to y'all because one, hip hop, we lost one of the illest legends ever, but we lost a legend that was directly connected to you

guys. So I know this is a little heartfelt, but how was it getting that phone call when you when you found out that Jam Master Jay passed away? Um, you know, I had studio too. Yeah, man. I was I was in LA. I remember that shit vividly. Like I was in LA and bossing over restaurant. And I was with I was in LA, I remember that shit vividly. I was in LA in Bossa Nova restaurant. And I was with Tata from Queens, she was in LA with me. Oh shit.

We was in a restaurant eating. Westin Peace too, Tata and Fast Away too right? Yeah, Westin Peace, we was in LA eating and a nigga just tapped me on my shoulder like, yo, you know what happened to Jay? I'm like, what happened to Jay? He's like, yo, he got killed right there in the restaurant. And I was just like, I don't know what happened.

I just blacked out and shit. I don't even know what happened after that, but I know that's why I got the news and shit. And it's just like, you know, turn the news on, that shit was everywhere. CNN, all crazy, you know what I'm saying? They got the nigga coming out the studio and shit, you know, with the stairs and all. That image, that image was just crazy, you know what I'm saying? They got the nigga coming out the studio and shit, you know, with the stairs and all.

That image, that image was just crazy, man. And I, you know, looking at the news, you see Leal and all them niggas out there, like, you know what I'm saying? Chuck D, I don't know, there's so many niggas that was on the TV when we was watching this. I remember that exact clip that you're talking about.

I remember that exact clip. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was watching it, because I was in LA, so we watching it, like, yo, this is crazy, like, you is crazy. Like you said, Jay wasn't, we were signed to J&J Records, but that nigga was my nigga, we were like on some real shit. That nigga was a gangster.

That's my nigga. Like, yo, like big bro shit. Like, you know what I mean? Fuck all the music, because this is way later. This is, we ain't even fucking with Jay with the music at this point. Nigga, I'm doing movies,

and he doing movies like Moesha. Nigga's getting it, you know what I'm saying? So Jay was doing his other thing, but we always kept that big brother shit. I see Jay in LA, yo what up? He ordered 30 bottles, you know what I'm saying? We telling Jay, what's that nigga, man, for real? Jay Show will be the most oiled and baddie guns

I've ever seen in my life. Oh shit, I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. Early, this is before the album came out. Did he put guns in there? No, no, he always, he said I've got guns on him. Big automatic shit, that old nine millimeters. Right.

But, um. No, but let's go back again. Okay. To that van. Uh-huh. After you guys hanged with them, how did the relationship progress from that point? See at that point? You know, like I said, he didn't even have a label at that time He wasn't even he was like, you know, just take my number keep in touch with me. So me and Big DS We would call Jay

Probably a little too much. You know I'm saying too much, you know what I'm saying? Get that nigga out for real. Yo Jay, what up? Yo, yo Jay, what up? You know, we little niggas. He was like, yo look man, I'm going on tour and I come back, I'll probably have my record label, get your demos together.

So he was like, oh shit, Jay coming back, he gonna have his record label. Let's get our demos together. So we was going to Collide Peace Studio, then we got one of my man, we got one of my man, Fat Steve, cause B-Wiz, our producer, who produced our album, we do one of my man, Fat Steve, because B-Wiz, our producer, who produced

I Don't Do It Like This, he got murdered. He went to Baltimore, so crack and all that. We was coming up through the crack. Sold his beat machine. Sold his beat machine. And this nigga, B-Wiz, B-Wiz, if you listen to the record, I Don't Do It Like This, he was before P-Rock and all them niggas, like he was before them niggas.

He was before Primo really. Around that time, he had the SB1200. He was the only nigga in the hood with a SB1200. Nobody seen no shit like that in the hood. They good with it. You know what I'm saying? It's like 90, 91 or something? This is like 89, bro.

He was the first nigga. So if he would've kept that beat machine, if he wouldn't have been to Baltimore, he would've been Primo. Guaranteed, straight up. But anyway, so we lost that producer. We was going to Northern Boulevard to do our demos with Fat Steve.

Or one of our thing was 105 in Northern. We was going to bedroom beats, Corona. That's where we did a lot of the Onyx demos. We was in Corona with Jeff Harris, my manager. He was from that neighborhood. And we was banging out the demos right there. so when Jay came back, we had the demos. But here's the thing, Sticky wasn't in the group. His name was Tropical, he was in Brooklyn,

he was doing his own shit, solo shit. You know what I'm saying, he wasn't really rocking with niggas like that, he was doing his solo shit, but me, Sun C, and Big DS, we was onyx, we was doing all the demos, we did like 20 demos. One day, Sun C, Suave, and Big DS came to the studio. That one day, and this nigga came to the studio. And we did a song called Stick and Move.

Cause we was biting Gangsta. That nigga said, Stick Up Kids is out the task. We made our own version. And in that record, he said, my name is Sticky Fingers. And I said, my name is Mickey Billy. We was just doing some other shit. And is Sticky Fingers. And I said, my name is Mickey Billy. We was just doing some other shit. And the Sticky Fingers, that's when Sticky Fingers was born. When I met Jay at Burger King,

when he came with that Benz at Burger King on Rockaway Boulevard, Jay pulled up with the Benz. I'm out there with the demo. He's like, I'm in town, I'm gonna hit the audience demos. Let's go to Princess Black 121. Yo, 121, Princess Black 121. Come on, stop playing, nigga. I'm from that era, nigga. Go back.'s go to Princess Black 121. Yo, 121 Princess Black 121. Come on, stop playing, nigga. I'm from that era, nigga.

Go back. I go to Princess Black, come out with the weed and the chips and all of that, you know what I mean? A long line of cars outside, Suffolk Boulevard. We playing the demos. He liking the demos. He liking the demos we got with Sun C and Big DS. But when the sticky moves shit come on,

that nigga say, yo, what the fuck is this? Because we changed our whole style on that record. Because leaders of the new school was out, Busta Rhymes, all these niggas. We went into that zone on that record. We wasn't doing the De La Soul zone. But Grimey. So we went, that's when the-

Staying off of each other. That's when the Stick and Move, that's when the grimy shit started, when niggas was altering their voices. I was in Brooklyn. You got a grimy with this shit, you know what I'm saying? It was a style, you came with a style. That's how the grimy shit.

Fuck shit, I have to go home, man. He had to deal with it. And that's how we got the deal. But let me ask you, Stingy. That's crazy. Which is crazy because this is an ill thing. You're a lot of favorite rappers, favorite rapper. It's you.

How the fuck do you deal with that? Like Eminem would say, you're one of his favorites. I mean, under the trailblazers, they'll get the credit. You know what I'm saying? Like, for instance, they get up on the computers and shit. Steve Jobs, he passed away. He took a public roommate, allegedly. You know what I'm saying? Right?

Am I wrong? Yeah. But you know, here's the thing. I don't do it for nobody yet. Nobody. I do it for myself. Right. Bex. Right. It's real. Like, I got to be better than my last self. You know what I mean? And then I'm down to earth, but I'm bodying everybody.

Arrogantly down to earth. Think I said arrogantly down to earth. I'm messing with that one. I'm running with it. But what if the other guys in the group think- No, we got the whole universe. I'm the earth being a star. Okay, so, okay, all right, so.

Oh yeah. So, so you, would you ask the question? Like what if the Earth, B is ours. Okay, so, okay, all right, so. Oh yeah. So, so you, would you ask the question? Like what do the other guys in the group think when that one song is from Cousin A? So, so, so, so. They didn't like it. Cause let me tell you, Big DS, I love Big DS, he's the founder of Onyx.

This is my best friend. I wore the blue, I wore the blue, I had the blue. Oshkosh. I had the blue Oshkosh, he had the red joints. That was my man, Big D S. Two mother suspenders, Oskosh? Thank you, whatever. Whatever, if I, we had two per scat.

We was the Big D S Marlin Fletcher, that was my best friend growing up, as a kid. And his sticky came fucked up everyday. He was my, I never came up there. No, but see, this is what it is though. I had, when Jay said, we need to put this nigga in the group. We already had the record profile.

They was like, hell no. That's another mouth to feed. And everybody's job was in question because they know he was coming with that fire. So they're like, wait, if we put this nigga in the group, where do I go? Cause I know Fredjo was there, you know? So now it's Sticky Fredjo.

So all of them niggas felt threatened. And your family. I felt threatened, cause it was my group. I'm the leader of this shit. So I never felt threatened. It's my cousin, it's my little cousin. I'm putting him on. It's like I put him on, cutting hair, getting money.

I'm gonna put you on his movie shit. I'm gonna put you on his rap shit. I'm putting him on everything, nigga. If I kick the door in, he coming in. I did Strat first, he did, now he doing Blade. I kicking the door first. I both love to run the records, niggas. I'm the first on all of them.

I'm gonna explain the signs, right? He's Aries. Aries is the born leader. The first sign on the zodiac, horoscope. I'm the last. The last is not really me. It's the Pisces. And not only that, I'm your last, the last is not really me, it's the Pisces. And not only that, I'm your older cousin.

And older cousin. So I'ma be ahead of you in age. In time. So I'ma be experiencing things you ain't experienced yet as a little kid. That's why when we had the fight, when a nigga tried to rob me for my red felines at Albee Square Mall, I fought for my shit. He knew I was in pussy. Like, oh, my cousin ain't pussy. He fight for hisbee Square Wall. I fought for my shit. He knew I was in pussy. Like, oh, my cousin ain't pussy.

Fight for his shit, nigga. The knife is like this thick. He fighting for his, nigga. I left for my shit. Yeah, both of us. I left for my shit. I left for my shit. Niggas ain't robbing me, son.

They say, yo, yo, man, my nigga wants some shoes. I left for my shit, man. I had a blackout all that. I ain't saying I'm total. Nigga, nigga, not me, I'm all that. But I left for my shit. I left for my shit, man. I had a blackout all that. I ain't saying I'm total, nigga, nigga, knock me out all that, but I left for my shit. I left for my shit. And he seemed personally all right, this nigga. And after that, he had to fight no more when I was there.

I'm taking everything. Fuck that. You know what I'm saying? I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm not gonna lie to you. I know you don't know this, but everyone's first grills used to be in Benny and Colosseum.

My first grills was Albee Square Mall. Yeah, yeah. Because they had the frames. I wanted frames. I didn't want, so that's, yo. Albee Square Mall, say it, come on. But that went out, son. That was the tough place to go.

Like, I mean, for us being from Queens, going to Coliseum was kinda cool. I was 16, nigga, sure I ride me on my birthday. But Albee Square Mall was where we didn't belong as Queens niggas. Because I'm from Brooklyn. Yes, oh, shit, come on. I'm from Brooklyn, that's right.

My whole family from Brooklyn, so I was, my mom's, we was living in Brooklyn at that time. Like my mom's- From King's County to Queens. I just took a bus to home downtown type shit. You know what I mean? So that's the difference. Like I'm from Brooklyn but I moved to Queens.

No, no, no, no, no. My family from Brooklyn? I just go to Brooklyn? To Queens? To Farragut. Farragut, yeah, yeah, yeah. You want to break me down the shuttle. That's the reason why when you just said that just now,

you fucking me up. Cause I feel like I know you damn near 20 years. And I'm like, holy shit. I didn't even know that connection right there. Exactly. So, but- Frankly out of the shuttle. Okay.

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or wherever you go to find your podcast. No, but how about you, Sticky? When you were told to be a part of the group, did you want to be in the group? Did I want to be in the group? How special is that? No, I didn't want to be in the group. I didn't want to be in the group with Jit. I'm going back to the book. He might be like, I don't know, I want to do, maybe you want to do a group with you?

I'm saying, what time is the session? Because you know what? I'm not a bully. I just got to entertain myself somehow. You know what I mean? So. I love these niggas, yo. I'm sorry. It was not a thing about because it was my group. Right.

You know what I'm saying? So it's like. So he's like, you. He's already. He's not a thing about. Like, we in the bar. We working in the bar. We shop together. We not going to be in the right room together. I stole his haircut and broke. To go get a job in Brooklyn.

Right? Even the most barber in the world! It's crazy to get that, right? I always thought that was a rumor, but I see y'all saying it. No, it's ill shit! Timon signs, pyramid, everything! I just saw it. I saw his hair.

I saw his hair. So I stole his book, went to Brooklyn, showed him the book. They're like, damn, you cut these hairs? He said, wow. I said, yeah. He said, give me a job. I never cut a fucking hair in my life. And they gave me a job.

They said, where your clippers? I thought I was busted. I said, but I ain't got no clippers. I don't worry about getting some. I'm like, I never fucked up. I never cut a hair, not even my own. Don't fuck with me. And I never fucked my hair up.

It's like, cause I'm honest. You know, like with all schools. You fucked some niggas, you fucked a few. Listen, you was fucking niggas up, son, at first. I ain't gonna lie, but you know, we all did. You know, I remember the first time I was cutting hair. Right, right, the whole shit. The nigga was like, don't worry about it,

just keep cutting this shit. The nigga believed in me. He ain't even get mad, bro. And he kept coming to my chair. That's how the ball had started? Nah, but you know, it's just, you know, it's just, when you in the streets of Jamaica, Queens, we had to figure out a way not to go to jail

and stay fly, you know what I'm saying? And my thing with the cutting head thing was, I was on Jamaica Ab, cutting head. I was like Gerst Moore. I wasn't a little nigga. I was on the Ab doing it for real, for real. And they was killing it. Every drug dealer in Queens, Every drug dealer in Queens. Yo, yo.

Every drug dealer in Queens, in Brooklyn, in the Bronx, whatever niggas was coming through. For real, real shit. Listen, listen. All right, let me describe. Famous, you boys was famous. Who famous? Anybody know Frank Soap?

Fuckin' get in the game, you can get brand. I'm gonna sit there and relax it. Yeah, we're going to Brooklyn. I'm we can get brand. I'm gonna sit there and relax. Yeah, I'm gonna go to Brooklyn. I'm gonna get that book. I'm gonna cut here too. Real shit. Look, I'm gonna be with Gershomore. You gotta be fly to go there.

Like, you can't even like, you can't like, cause it's like, it's fly to be fly to be fly to go there. You can't. It was fly in Coliseum. No, no, no, Coliseum was the next joint. It's like, it's fly to be fly to be fly to go there. You can't. It was fly in Coliseum. No, no, no. Coliseum was the next joint. It was the hood shit.

It was the next joint, but Gertrude Morin was like, woo, and then they had the famous pizzeria that was right next to it. Right there, right there, Godbrou. Right next to it, Godbrou. And they had the most, I know this is going to sound horrible, but that was the parole office right there too. Wow.

I don't know about that. I ain't know that. So they had the parole office, the B2R and Gertrude Moore. So if you went on that block, you had to be that guy. And it was right around the corner from 1212 Studio, the big studio that burned down, J Master J Studio. I didn't know that. It was right around the corner. Okay, wow, I didn't know that.

You know what, let me back up. The question asked, you know, every rapper's favorite rapper type shit. You know what, it came from this. This thing's ill. Yep. So, coming from ill to be out there, you gotta be ill in that.

That's where that shit's born from. If he wasn't ill, then I wouldn't in that. That's where that shit came from. If he wasn't an elf, then I wouldn't be that elf. So you gotta love me. You can't just fuck off with me. That's real family life. That's real shit. I love that. Like real, like the fuck?

How the fuck that would not? You know what I mean? I love it. If you was anybody else, then I will be sick, you base. All right. That feel me? Oh, I love that, man. Yeah, man.

Oh, oh, one, two, three. Oh. I shoot it up. I think I'm still shooting up the place. Let's do it. Wait, wait, wait. Oh. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Jesus. We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna play this game. Uh-oh. Ready for Quick Time? Yeah, I'm so ready for Quick Time. I think I'm feeling a little tipsy right now. Yeah, it's basically that. What is in this drink? What is this?

No, no, he ordered Hennessy. It's shot o'clock. It's shot o'clock? This don't even, this don't even sound. Oh, you're so, so look. This is a drinking game. I gotta take a shot? I'll give you 13 days.

You don't have to take a shot if you don't want to. You can have a designated drinker if you want. No, we can have LS1, we got Lord Jive. I got LS1. LS1. Listen, I'm not fucking with LS1, either. That shit can know how to drink, too. I'm not stupid.

One thing for sure, he's honest, no he's not, wait, what's the game? Okay, so, Guy, you explain this time. No. I've never explained. We always fuck up explanations. I think I might wanna get drunk tonight.

All right, we're gonna give you two choices, right? You pick one, and we not drinking. Okay. If you pick a choice. Okay. Right? But if you say both or neither, which meaning you don't want to really answer,

then we drink it, everybody drinks. Everybody take the shot or take the sips on. We'll be drinking. Whatever, whatever you want. We got our shots of choice here. But if you want to say to drink or you want to bring other people in. By the way, I already know.

Spite it, L.S. I already know you're going to be the good one in this, and he's going to be the To bring up stories about anybody we bring up, okay, it's really One thing I want to say And I said it earlier I just want you all to know just in case you don't know It's not like a disclaimer. No, all, we owe y'all, everybody from Queens, like. Hip hop, man, and in general, everybody. You know what, that's right,

fuck, fucking limited to the Queens. Y'all making way too, to the, essentially. Let me tell you something. I'm gonna keep it real. Hold on, let me finish, let me finish. Okay. It was literally tears coming out my eyes coming here.

I seen that. And I was like, holy shit. I'm so proud to give y'all flowers and to tell y'all how much y'all mean to me, hip hop, but also the world. And yes, I promise you, this is real talk. I know we friends, but that can't take away from my fanship and what y'all did.

It can't take away from what y'all did. And let me tell you, these joints right here, these are legit records that I bought. Like I bought this, I bought this, I went and got this, you know what I'm saying? I got full X's too. I just want to say, you know, like those records you playing at, man,

we sacrificed a lot. We sacrificed so say, you know, like those records you playing at, man, we sacrificed a lot. We sacrificed so much, you know what I'm saying? Like family shit, like I don't want to go to college type shit. Sister going to college, they looking at you like you going to fail. Like you gave our all to this shit. We gave our whole life to this shit to get the respect that you're saying now. Because when you're doing it, you don't realize what you're doing. You're just doing it because you love it.

And then 30 years later, you can sit back and be like, yo, man, this shit is- Now the longevity is crazy. I'm wondering if you can even hear me. You know, this is something that I want to give y'all too. That y'all perfected. Maybe y'all didn't know y'all perfected it, or maybe you do.

I know this is going gonna sound a little weird. Most rappers, they get killed in their own hood. Y'all was the first people that were smart enough to leave. And y'all both moved to LA, I believe, right? No, we moved first. No, no, no, no, no, we moved to Jersey first. We moved to Edgewater, New Jersey first. That's the same.

We was on River Road. We was the first niggas. We was the first niggas on River Road. Okay, okay. There was nobody on River Road. The only niggas on River Road was us and Jay-Z. That's it. Edgewater.

Then the other niggas came. Let's get that for real. For real, you know what I'm saying? We was the first niggas on River Road, and the police kept locking our niggas up. Niggas was like, we not fucking with y'all niggas. We ain't coming over there because every niggas couldn't even make it

from the George Washington Bridge to our crib without getting pulled over. So we moved in and then when the movie shit came, then we moved to LA. Right, no, but I'm gonna be honest, God bless, because I don't wanna name people names, but if a lot of rappers would have followed the blueprint I'm gonna be honest, God bless, you know, because I don't want to name people names. But if a lot of rappers would have followed the blueprint that y'all laid out, they'll

be here right now. A lot of rappers stood in the same neighborhood. And they had early demise. But that was something I always watched y'all about. Y'all went to LA or went, like you said, Jersey. Y'all were smart enough to say, you know what? The hood ain't gonna love us forever. I will say this though.

I will say this. It ain't where you from, the hood gonna follow you. You could go to LA and get the hood drama shit. It ain't, you know, how many, you know, I mean, it's like this, man. You just have, I got a song called Hood Jealousy. I got an album called Soul, Soul album. I produced the whole shit, did all the beats,

shit is crazy, it's called Soul. And I got a song called Hood Jealousy, and I say, rest in peace, the nip. Yo, I feel the same danger. You know what I'm saying? Because like you said, a lot of niggas getting jam-ass at Jay, we can name them all niggas got killed in their hood, big L.

How many niggas I know got, it's unlimited to say how many niggas got killed in the hood. You just gotta know how to move and it's a little bit of luck and it's a little bit of being smart. Next to God. Y'all were smart though. Y'all were smart early. Y'all were smart early.

I'm not gonna lie to you. But like I said, in case you don't know, I followed you. You can move to LA and still get in that body. You can move to LA and go to Hollywood and do movies and come home in a fucking body bag on a plane, my nigga. I seen it happen to a nigga. In Hollywood, you know what I'm saying?

And you just gotta know how to move. The hood, the hood, and the Grim Reaper is everywhere, my nigga. He's everywhere. He's everywhere. The Grim Reaper is everywhere, nigga. What the fuck is you talking about? You could go anywhere and get the Grim Reaper coming.

You just gotta know how to move. I mean, you know, and like I said, a little bit of luck, a little bit of being smart. And a lot of guns. All right, so you explaining the rules already? We explain the rules. Okay. Okay.

All right. Ready? All right, I gotta take this first. Go ahead, go ahead. I'm sorry. No designated drinkers up before we start? Nobody else coming in? Spider, what up?

We got Spider. Spider got that merch. Go to onyxhq.com, see Spider for the merch. No, I'm not gonna lie to you. Spider, in case you don't know, I'm jealous of you right now. That Onyx headband looks so good, and I can just picture it and-

We're gonna get you a box of shit. Yeah, I ain't gonna Yeah, I'm running. I'm running. Oh, he needs that little marathon. With that on. I need that. I need that. Oh, yeah.

Congratulations on that. You ready? This, this, this, by the way, I don't make me and him don't make up these questions. It's the Colombian and Dominican over there that make up these questions. I love South America and Dominican got the best. Who in America with? Oh, I'm doing it with my son. What's his name?

Naka, Naka, Naka. I'm not, I disqualified my other son. No? Yeah, I told him no. He ain't built for that. He ain't built for it. And I don't, like, because, you know, once, once we start training, which I start training Monday, which is way too early, um, he's not my son no more.

When is it again? Damn. When is it, when is it? Marathon? Yeah. Student teacher. Yeah, that's it. What is Marathon?

Oh, November. Wax off. November. November what? I believe November 2nd. Wow, the day before my birthday. So are we dedicating this to Sticky? Oh my God. Ah!

Happy New Year, New York. Now my birthday is November 3rd. We're gonna play the game. Yeah, my father's birthday is November 4th. Oh, yeah, yeah. So it's puppies. Yeah, so it's puppies, yes, yes. Yeah, so this one,

I'm very curious how you're gonna answer. And if y'all answer separately, then I'm drinking anyway. Nas or LL Cool J? Oh, that's fucked up, man. That's what I'm saying. That's some bullshit. No, I told you it wasn't me. I told you it wasn't me. Why would y'all say that? Why would y'all do that?

Whatever criteria. Whatever criteria. Oh, man. Nah, son. I can't do that. Nah, son. Is that- If you say both or neither, we just drinking.

Neither. I can't. I can't. I'll drink it. So you say both, basically. Both. Both. Okay.

What are you saying? Nah. Oh, we gotta drink. I'm still drinking. I'm gonna be quell right now. Oh, shit. Morning, y' basically. Both. OK, what are you saying? Nah, it's both. We got drinkers. I'm still drinking. I got Piquet L right now. Oh, shit.

Yeah. Like, you mean that in, like, a good way? That's how you drink it. Is this what I'm saying? No, no, no. This is wrong. He say he gonna write me the illest shit ever. Nobody ever wrote me shit.

Can I just elaborate on that for a minute? Wait, what's happening? I don't say he wrote you the illest shit. No, no, no. What you doing? It's a show. It's a happening? I don't say he wrote you the illustration. No, no, no. We were doing the show. The show. OK.

Yeah, I was character in the show. He said, you're sick, man. Just let me write some shit for you. I said, I don't want to write my shit. And I said, you know what? OK. You better ask these questions. Where's my shit, nigga?

Are you going to take it from me? You never gave it to me. Where's my shit? All right. So, yeah. All right, listen. I guess it's a good way, right? Yeah, I see it.

What LL did for the co-chair. I think it's a clone. And he was like, I don't know. All right, listen. I guess it's a good way, right? Yeah. What LL did for the coach, I think it's a clone. And Rock the Bells radio. And doing. He's at a level where he's a god. Nas is a god, too. Yeah. Oh, fuck.

This is perfect. Yo, this is perfect for this shit right now. Okay, hell, I would choke you. I'm hooked up. This shit is set in the booty right now. I'm choking. This shit's called thunder. Hell, hell, you got to, there's no...

Shit. Everybody knows that as far as the lyricists, you can ask any interview, Nas is my favorite artist. But he got us a goat. Period. We from the same era. I like his tone. I like what he talk about. You know what I'm saying?

That's that. I say Nas, because I like my new friend, Kipra. But LL is the guy that made it. He made the game. You wanted to be him. I never wanted to be Nas. I wanted to be L-El though. Right. It's a difference. You feel what I'm saying?

So it's like everybody is like, it's kind of equal with me. And I'm coming from Queens. Okay. I couldn't answer that. No way better. I said both. He said both. Yup. Yup. All right. And I took a shot already. All right, this is the one. Mobb D for MOP.

Ha ha ha. Oh, see now you on some bullshit. I could be on some bullshit. Oh, I can't attempt easy. I love Fred Truex. Aw, man. That's insane. That nigga's crazy.

I love Fred Truex. I love that. Do you know that? He's the exact opposite of his answer. Do you know that fucking MOP, right? One of them is Aries, and one of them is Scorpio. Wow. That means that's the same?

Yeah. The same. I was just listening. I would say M.O. I would say Maldives because of Shook Ones. It's the illest hip hop song ever, almost. Last Day and Shook Ones, Lotty Dotty, shit like that. That, you know. You said Last Days?

He threw some in there, of course. I love that. I was going there. I was waiting for you to tell my interview right now, OK? Stop, stop. Last Days, Shook One, Slotty Dotty, like the boss. Slotty Dotty, just cuz of the beat. I agree with everything you just said.

Just cuz of the beat alone, it's Slotty Dotty. I agree with everything you just said. I'm not mad at it at all. I'm just saying. I'm not mad at this at all. No, I agree with everything you just said. I agree with everything you just said. I'm not mad at it at all. I'm not mad at this at all. I agree with everything you just said. Let's take another one. My answer, My D or M.O.P? Yeah.

They have the same name almost, right? The M's? Yeah, I see that. I can't. Let's drink. I'll take both. They have the same letters. M-O-P, Mobb Deep. Because they both, M-O-P got the energy. Right.

And they all drop that ball. But Mobb Deep got the shit one shit and it's like, yo bro, like. Yo, pizza, little fam, pizza motherfuckers. All right, you play Andy up in the party, you a DJ. You play Andy up in the party, you play shit ones. Which one is getting the energy? You play Andy up in the party, you play shit ones. You play Andy up in the party, you play shit ones.

You play Andy up in the party, you play shit ones. You play Andy up in the party, you play shit ones. You play Andy up in the party, you play shit ones. You play Andy up in the party, you play shit ones. You play Andy up in the party, you play shit ones. You play Andy up in the party, you play shit ones. You play Andy up in the party, you play shit ones. You play Andy up in the party, you play shit ones.

You play Andy up in the party, you play shit ones. You play Andy up in the party, you play shit ones. You play Andy up in the party, you play shit ones. You play Andy up in the party, you play shit ones. You motherfuckers. All right, you play One is getting the most reaction In terms of like the energy was any up any will be shook ones Play the record when you play the record. When you play the record in the set. Right, right, right. Right, right. Right, right.

Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.

Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.B.F. is more hyper. Of course, the energy, especially the remix

from Busta Rama, Remy, it's crazy. Just like I told Super Thug resonated in my ass. Shook Ones make you want to beat somebody up. Right. It's automatically. Automatically. Who, like what? You stepped on my sneaker the other day.

T.O.Y. makes you want to beat somebody up. Yeah. Yeah. That's a telltale thing. That was a great one. That was a great one. We have to drink. I can't drink.

Who want to kill? No, that's a thing. Make you want to kill somebody. T.O.Y. I great. We have to check our characters. You want to kill? No, that's the thing. You want to kill somebody. Kill a wife. I want to set fire. It's no, I'm not going to lie to you. When I, I know that I got my brothers coming up

and I can tell you all my brothers, my friends. And when I heard last days, I could not stop rewinding it. I just kept going like, shh, what the, how the fuck smart was y'all to say last days? Cause it feels like now, what day is it? All these years later, it feels like last day. It's sweet, it's these last days. We used to go one four five.

Okay. Like I said, we used to live in Edgewater. Okay. So you know, Edgewater's not for white people. Yes. So the niggas is in Harlem. OK, but you going to co-finances? Don't tell me you going to co-finances.

We going to 145, right on Broadway. OK, yeah. And we getting Illuminati tapes. They sending Illuminati tapes. You be holding a pale white horse. You get anything, nigga, on 145th and Broadway, nigga. Let's keep it real. You can get some coke, anything. You get a fucking human organ.

You know what I'm saying? Niggas will run up on your car. Niggas will run up on your car with the bullshit. Yo, papi! You know what I'm saying? You know what it is. I'm so much noticing. So we was getting the Luminati tapes,

and we was watching the Luminatati. We had the big TV in Eswar. I gave Prodigy the book to Pell Horse. All that, we doing all that. So now we making beats, we got Aguilar. Aguilar, Adolf. He in the crib in Jersey. We got him in the crib in Jersey.

We got that nigga in the beat machine. That nigga came out with an Afro. We had that nigga there so long, my nigga. He is ill with the beats. He's ill with the beats. Still ill with the beats. But he didn't produce last days though. Let's get that, let's get that. What, did he say it on Dream Chaps?

I don't know where he said it, but he didn't do it. We all was in the beat machine. This was the crew we had. We had a crew around us. We was like the Neptunes or like, we had a crew. Whoever gets to the beat machine first, they rock it. I caught the Bob James sample. That was it.

Once I caught the sample, it was like, let me go get these, the original drums that Tribe Conquest used, the Brethren drums. Then I put it together, that was it. And then niggas put the wamp in it, and the fuckin' Rita Franklin shit, you know what I'm sayin'? We put it all together.

But that shit stayed on the beat machine for a month. Non-stop. Niggas ain't pressing stop. So every time you came in the house. Just playing. The God keep cosigning you every time you talk. The God keep. That's actually the perfect sound for this record.

You go somewhere, you come in the house, that beat is playing. I brought him with me. That last day, it took a long time to come with the lyrics, because the beat was just playing so long. Then we watched the Luminati tapes, and we seen all this shit. We came with this whole shit, with the Last Day shit.

And then we got with Joseph Khan, one of the Illest Directors, and we did the video. And when we did the video with the Silver Lexus, it was just, we was ahead of our time with the silver Polo shit on, with the 95 Air Maxes. We was on some other shit. Like we was them niggas. Like we was fly niggas, you know what I mean?

But we always kept it conscious, because we was looking at niggas like public enemy. Wu-Tang just came out. They changed our whole style, Wu-Tang, as far as production and how we was coming lyrically. If you hear the first album. I can see that now. You hear the first album, the second album,

Wu-Tang already came out. So it's like, okay, this is where hip hop is going. We got to attack this shit like this. So now you're going to get last days and you're going to get all we got is us. My nigga Panama P.I. These evil streets is rough. We had the queens with us.

Panama P.I., we in the streets. N***a went 30 first, I got, you know what I mean? Gang green, like we going Rockaway Boulevard with this shit. Like we Queens n****s. We literally have goose bumps. Southside, we the first n****s from Southside to come on and get a deal. Cheeks came after us, Cheeks lost boys. LB fandom n****s blew the fuck up.

Two million dollar deals at fucking Universal, all crazy shit. Private jets, all that shit. Cheeks came after us, Cheeks, Lost Boys, LB fandom niggas blew the fuck up, two million dollar deals at fucking Universal, all crazy shit, private jets, all that shit, but we the first niggas from Southside. Let's be honest, everybody who came after you, Ja Rule, Fifth, I'm talking about Southside. Ja Rule just in the book. Ja Rule ain't from Southside. How does he not kiss his sister? He was in all four of his videos.

Nah, nah, Ja Side is Southside. Southside is onyx, you know what I mean? 50 Cent. Fifth is considered Southside. No, no, no. Southside is Southside. Southside is Onyx, you know what I mean? 50 Cent. Fifth is from Southside. He in a react video. Motherfucking, um, Lost Boys from Southside. That's Southside, you know what I mean? Okay, so Hollis is not considered Southside?

Jamey S.J. from Southside. Farmas, Farmas, motherfuckers. Farmas is like, less like, they call it, nah son. Nah, nah, I'm just kidding. Nah, yeah. I'm just keeping it above 50, yeah. It's not. My friend just hurt my friend. They tax bracket is a lot. They're like this.

They've almost made a little bit more money, that's all. It's just, you know, the tax bracket went up a little bit over there, you know what I mean? And they go railing to hell. All right, so, this is how I broke down Queens. You know we still playing Quick Time, but go ahead. Yeah, I know, this is how I broke down Queens. You know, we still playing quick time. But go ahead. This is how I broke down Queens.

Buses and the trains. So there's the houses. Buses and the trains. But houses. I'm building. Oh yeah. You way smarter than me. But buses and the trains.

Think about it. In order to get to my side of Queens, you have to use the trains. In order to get to my side of Queens, you have to use the trains. In order to get to y'all side of Queens, you have to use the buses or the dollar vans. The dollar vans definitely. The dollar vans, and of course. Once you get on the train.

Yes, once you get on the train. We definitely dollar vans, niggas. Yeah. The Africans definitely got happening. We was waiting for the bus. When the Africans was pulling up, it was just to be packed, my nigga. Long as you got to stay in the back here. They're going to climb your little ass in there

and they're going to be like this, window open like this. Nigga, we dollar van out. Out here is the Jitney's. This is the same thing. The Haitian joint. We was taking the trains too though. The N train, E, F, R, O. Seven line train.

I'm talking about we was in Brooklyn taking the E, the B train, the D train, all that shit. The D train going to Brooklyn, Franklin Avenue shuttle. That happened. Walking over them fucking brick in the ass stairs on Franklin Avenue. Come on nigga. Franklin Avenue shuttle. I did that.

If anybody know about the Franklin Avenue shuttle stairs 1986 I like that. I'm least really know how you said it. Thank you. I'm like, I'm sorry. I'm like, this is your way. You're way to your legendary DJ friends to come over here to go. Pull up. Pull up. Pull up. Okay, we're going to finish. Quick Thomas. We just started. All right. Damn. NW a public enemy. Oh, that's easy, man. Yeah, yeah. God, yeah.

So now, let me see. Oh my God. This is very... Public Enemy, fuck your love. East Coast nigga. No, no, no, no, no, no. See, Public Enemy, of course, Fight the Power, we got a lot of inspiration from that.

Fuck the police. We just shut them down. But NWA was the first group we heard that used the word fuck in a rap and came out with it. They actually said fuck the police and fuck this and fuck that. We was like, yo. Public Enemy always. Besides, 2Live Crew had done it right before that.

Nah, nah, not really. Yeah, yeah. NWA was the first niggas. Nah, I wouldn't argue that. These ain't about fucking police. I'm talking about as far as what we consumed. What we consumed and what we first heard was fuck the police was NWA, 100 miles and running. That's where you get back the fuck up from.

Right. Type shit. That energy. That's that energy. You know what I'm saying? I got chugged up in my phone. Fuck that. Hold on, hold on.

Oh shit. But you didn't have, no you pissed. You didn't have the drink. But I will say- He's like fuck it. Big DS is the first time I heard NWA came with the white Bronco. We sitting in front of Cribby's playing that shit. I was like what the fuck is this bullshit?

These niggas ain't even- Oh shit, that's fucked up. Because to me personally, I thought that they wasn't rhyming on beat. And I'm an East Coast nigga. I came up with the rock cameras. They rhythm wasn't, I wasn't jacking it, you know what I'm saying? But when I heard the album at a whole, I got it. You know what I'm saying?

I see what Big DS was liking. I didn't really like it. I was doing special ed and that type of shit in my car. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't leaning towards the NWA at the time, but Big DS was heavy on NWA, but it affected us as far as going into the Onyx album, like saying fuck that, like speak what you want to say

in life, speak out for what you got to believe in, like talk your shit. They gave us that. No other group came before them to do that. Public Enemy kinda did, but not like that. Public Enemy did it in their way. Let me ask you because- They fight the power, but they didn't say fuck the police.

They didn't do a fuck. Right, right. Now I'm gonna- So let me ask you, let me ask you. And you brought this up, so- And I love the police. It made me think of it. Respectfully.

We have special ed on here. the police. It made me think of it. Respectfully. We have a special ad on here. A special ad particularly said. West Coast hip hop made it negative. He said that we weren't. He said something like that. You're paraphrasing. I'm paraphrasing. I'm messing it up. No, no, you're not because he did say that. Basically, he said something like that.

Yeah, he said something like that. Same effect. Yeah. Okay, so... You know I gotta ask you. Oh, yeah. He's right. I think opposite. I think they helped it because it made up. It made up too. So there were all these negative. So how do we take the world back, right? The fuck? I don't we take the world back, right? The fuck? Yeah.

I don't know where we went. I feel like it's one verse to 100 right now. But what you think, you think, you think? Yeah, I think they definitely. You think the West? The West Coast definitely set up Gangsta Rap. What? On a scale of, I mean, you could say

Skoolie D and all these guys with a- Skoolie D from Philadelphia. Yeah, you could say these guys, they are like Kings of Greggs, but when I heard KS-One is making that dream, I didn't get Gangsta Rap out of that. Actually, I think- I got it, this is a dope joint party record.

I didn't hear Gangsta Rap. G-Rap is Gangsta Rap for sure. That nigga talking about niggas, you know what I'm saying? Niggas rapping niggas up on rugs and shit. But NWA, the way they did it, they did it, they did it, and they fucked their game up. They did bring negative to the rap, but it wasn't negative. They was speaking from a place that was negative. And I said that way.

I don't say it like, especially, he's right. Special Ed is right. But then there's another side to being right too. This is what I'm saying. You can't just be wrong. Go on, Yo. He's saying drink. Take a shot. Take a shot.

Listen. Listen. This thing makes me want to drink. And then I heard, and then I heard, it's big in this special ed. I heard it's the corporate people who was like, yo, we want to fill the jails up. The private prisons, right. We want to put the people in prison.

There's so many theories. I mean, Q even talked about that. He's been real about it. All right, then. So everything has a time and a place. And I think it was a time for Gangsta Rap to start. And it was a time for NWA. And it was a time for when Special White,

it was a time for that. When he was riding around in a Jetta in the Juice movie, it was a time for that. Then it was a time for me to get the motherfucking guns and strap, you feel what I'm saying? It was a time for that, you know what I'm saying? It's always a time for something else. So NWA came with the next shit,

then we came with the next shit, then Wu-Tang come with the next shit, and then fucking Biggie come with the next shit, then Norrie and them niggas come with the next shit, then it just keeps going on and on and on and on. It's hip hop nigga. This is what the fuck we do. All the planets in the same atmosphere and none of the planets, most of the time the planets ain't crashing. I'm not gonna lie. This is the first time in drink champs history when something like went viral that I wanted

to like investigate it. So I was looking because special ed was getting you know, oh, when the when that yeah, yeah, he was getting like like a little like negative energy. And I looked and it was actually even it was the first time I actually seen like people were saying, yeah, the West Coast did bring gangster rap but then but then and then they did it the West Coast had a whole like a Believe is dub see Just dub, see? Yeah, see?

Was King T on it? King T. I forget, but I was tuned to it. I gotta see that, I gotta check. But it's something that I would like to respectfully see, like recently they asked Snoop Dogg, Fat Joe said that Kendrick is the king of LA. I saw that.

And Snoop Dogg, he respectfully was just like, Fat Joe can't say that. Okay. You're not from LA, you're not from the West Coast. Right. You can't talk on West Coast. He wasn't disrespectful. And I kind of agree with that. And Joe was one of my closest friends. But I do agree with that.

I said, you can say the fuck you want to say. Be it from there or not from there. Like my dude, he plays instruments, right? He said, yo, stick to what you're talking about. You don't even do rap. I do this instrument there, but I'm the listener. So it goes both ways. Yes, it does.

You do the air and you can't say that, vice versa, like. It does. Not that you can't say that way, like, you know? It does. You wanna go to the next one? Let's go back to the quick one. All right, let's go.

By the way, I love this shit, right? I'm just being honest. So what's the thing in the West Coast? No, no, no. All right, see, again. I'm gonna respect, yes, I'm gonna respect. We're gonna stay out of that one. And what he said made sense.

The West Coast, there's a Bay Area and there's LA. You can't pick for the whole West Coast. I mean, even California, we're not even. And I don't wanna, I don't wanna protect Joe. I ain't never gonna speak on who the king of anything. A lot of people speak so many numbers, they got the favorite 50 rappers. Ain't nobody on here. Like the fuck, so fuck them.

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See you next time, man. Daz effects the last boys. You got it. That bullshit, bro. Just stop, man. He got it. I want to say Pray for Drazee, man. You know what I'm saying? Straight up. I don't know, man. I just felt like saying that. You know what I mean?

Daz effects or Lost Boys? Lost Boys. Now, I went to school with the Lost Boys. I went to John Adams with the Lost Boys. I shared very, very, very, very, very, bomb moments with the Laws Boys. I would have to go with the Laws Boys, hands down. No disrespect to Daz, respectfully, but definitely Laws Boys, definitely.

And they just got Freaky Todd. He got his own streak the other day. I was not there, but I want to mention that. You know what I'm saying? Freaky Todd was there, you know what I'm saying? I saw my nigga Lord Nez out there, Domination, all them niggas out there. I wanted to be out there, but I want to mention that. You know what I'm saying? Freaky Tile was there, you know what I'm saying? I saw my nigga Lord Nez out there, Domination,

all them niggas out there. I wanted to be out there, but rest in peace to Freaky Tile. I went to school with them niggas. John Adams, 9th, 10th, 11th, dropped out, but you know, whatever. But yeah, we went to school together, man. John Adams. They might have graduated, but. What, are we in? So did it? I've been in school. He said, Lord. Oh, he did. I'm not a fan of the over here and we need them on drink chance. We need them on drink chance and we're getting more flowers. You know what I mean?

But God, let's go to the next one. Naughty by nature or Lord of the Underground? Uh-huh. No. No. No. No. No.

No. Quick. What kind of question is that? I'll take a drink to that one. Oh, I don't have another one. We still talk with you, God. I don't have another one. We still talking with you guys. He gonna make that drink.

Yo, did you take a trick? I'm not drinking no drinks, man. See? That's why I'm doing this. I'm not drinking no other drink. You're drinking in the house. Can I say this? Why don't you want to get one of these? I don't know. Dress again. Dress again. Dress again. Dress again.

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Dress again. Dress again. Dress again. Dress again. Dress again. Dress again. The song is 10 minutes, my nigga. He got every nigga from New Jersey on there. Latifah, Lady Luck, T1. I hate to live in Jersey. Yo, that's my favorite record on the album, Shout to Redman. He's probably jumping on a plane right now somewhere. Yeah, no, Redman's ill, man. But that song is good. You got Shackle, man.

Yeah. He's a photographer. Yeah. And he doesn't smoke weed. He jumped on a plane? He doesn't smoke weed. You should've killed yourself. I was on the plane. You made me smoke weed, now he doesn't smoke smoke weed I really want to say that same shit to him. Like yo, how you gonna quit on us? Like, like. I know, like that's fucked up. Like, come on, son.

Like, we can hold him. You know what I mean? How to roll a blind. Yo, listen. He made a song, how to roll a blind. Yo, look, if right man saw us smoking weed, you had to take how to roll a blind with all these keys.

I don't wanna hear that shit no more. Fuck that. You can't keep him over that shit and you ain't smoking it, my nigga. Fuck all that shit. Fuck that. Yo, I looked at him and you know what's crazy? Like, I'm a man, so I look at a person's progress. And we go to Leo Combs. This is Leo Combs' uh...

Gala. Gala. The Gala. Gala in LA. And I'm looking at him. City of Hope. City of Hope. What up, Leo? Yup. God damn it. You took the private plane then? Yeah.

Why is this? That's the illest hip hop plane ever. That shit was huge. How big was that plane? Well, yo, was it bigger than this? It was the size of these old ones. That's the fuck I am. Yo, that shit.

They asked me, they said, yo, you want to take the private plane? I was like, because it was leaving for New York, I think, or Jersey. When I was in New York, I was like, I don't want to ever buy it. Just give me a first class. I'm going to take the private plane. I'm going to take the private plane. I'm going to take the private plane. I'm going to take the private plane.

I'm going to take the private plane. I'm going to take the private plane. I'm going to take the private plane. I'm going to take the private plane. I'm going to take the private plane., you want to take the private plane? I was like, cause it was leaving from New York, I think, where Jersey, New York. I was like, I'm just giving up first class. But the people on that plane wild. But should we, should we big up Leo? Yeah, absolutely. Big up Leo. I love Leo, man.

Big up Leo. Leo, listen, Leo. He run your shit, nigga, you too. No, no, no. Big up the boss. Look, look, look. This is how we look at Leigh-O. OK.

Leigh-O Cohen, without Leigh-O Cohen, there's no slam record. This dude, he challenged us, and he told us we was wack. He told you guys you were wack? Yeah, I want that. He said, y'all niggas ain't ill like Dr. Dre and Snoop. Y'all ain't got no radio record. Don't walk in here like y'all niggas is all that.

Y'all niggas ain't did shit. Go fucking bring me a radio record. And that made us make the record Slam. And I just seen a Volkswagen commercial with Slam in it, which is one of the most licensed record in hip hop history. You can do your goo-goos, challenge me. What record is licensed more than Slam in hip hop? Show me and I will challenge you

that there's no record bigger than Slam in licensing and hip hop, straight like that because. And I'm not saying that to be but i'm just saying like when we made slam we we wanted to have people slam dancing We didn't think about sports. It was intentional. We didn't think about basketball and NBA 2k We didn't think about the wrestling slam video game major league slam slam video game, the movie with Ice Cube. We didn't think about all that. It was the last song.

No, we just, it's what Leo Cohen made us do. Oh shit. Without him, it's not that. Cause we was in Dept. J. Shifty probably would have been the first, the lead single. Which is cool, Shifty was cool, but it ain't slam. Clam!

Da da da, da da da, let the boys be boys! Clap! Duh duh duh, duh duh duh, let the boys be boys! Clap! Let me fair it out, let me fair it out. It's so good, nigga. And it wasn't an accident, you know? They saying God, in seven days,

he created the heavens and earth, well in seven days, Onyx created the rhythm and the verse. Took seven days to make that record. It was the last record on the album. He said, you know, throw your guns, kill and shit. We need something more radio friendly. Slam.

Okay, so throw your guns in the air. Out. I mean, in barbershop, come listen to it. It was working. And they said a radio record. You still mean, in barbershop, couple of inches away. It was working. Yeah. And they said a radio record. You still was in the barbershop too on the radio. Listen to the radio, Cartinier. Cause we wasn't on tour, nothing.

Yeah, you know how legendary these stories are? Like y'all fucking me up, bro. Bro, Lil Niggas. Lil Niggas, think about Lil Niggas from Queens on the Ave. Just getting in the game. Cause I know exactly what you talking about when you were oh my god. You know, let's just make some noise All right, we got we got we got all right we got we not even close. Oh, we're not even close. I'm sorry analog or digital

You gotta be the moment, bro. Digital. That is that. Which is the shit you ain't got. You gotta be the weed. You know, I call it digital weed, and add it on the weed. Yeah, I drink digital water right now.

You do? Yeah, look, I have water that is digital. Really? What the fuck is that? I had some fucking shit. Everything is second to the niggas. Get the fuck out of here. Get back to your cell.

Digital water. You drive your car here, or your car drives itself? No, my wife drove me here. Okay. But, um, um, all right. So this is new day. I'm sorry. I have digital, I drink digital water.

Digital fucking water? Digital water, yeah. As you put, you take your shit, because what they trying to do, obviously both of y'all live in LA. Both of y'all live in LA. Right. They're trying to ban plastic. What is it called, this shit with the, this lady started a company with the,

it's called like the water without the plastic. That's what I'm on. Oh yeah. Yeah, I'm on that. Water without the plastic. How's that thing called? It's called Parrot. No, no, no.

So really what you do is you put it in a thing. Oh, the thing that puts the hydrogen or shit in it? Yes, it takes the hydrogen out. It takes all that shit out. So I'm on that, but it's weird because I don't want to like, like overdo to my people. Cause my people can be like, you're getting a little too weird, Norris.

Yeah, you're doing the methylene blue, bruh. I'm doing methylene blue. That nigga's reversed to his age, though. You see it? You see it? You see it? That nigga reversed to his age. He's rewinding. Look, Norrie. Oh, shit. Norrie, what up, man? Norrie.

I have definitely rewinding. But, oh, shit. How did we get here? Okay, let's go to the next question. Okay. EPMD or Run DMC? Ooh, nah, nah, I know this crap. Run DMC. EPMD. Nah, Run DMC.

I'm trying to hear you. Run DMC. I love EPMD, love them niggas. Yo, I was on Rockway Boulevard at a game room called the Softball Room and this dude named Fritz was running from the police and shit, this nigga was on top of the fucking buildings running from police and they had helicopters

on Rockaway Boulevard and we were staying in this game room called the Softball Room. This, I'm like 15 years old and they were selling drugs in there and I was playing video games. I knew what they was doing but I was still in there. And my Uzi weighs a ton, but Public Enemy, and then that was it came out. And then it's my thing was also on a jukebox in there.

So that just brings me back to that. The EPMD was, when I heard that shit, my nigga, I was like, what the fuck is this shit? But Run DMC is mine. That's my, that's my father's nigga. That's my father, nigga. I was on tour with them niggas in Japan. Looking at them niggas like, holy shit.

Flying first class for Run next to me, going to Japan. Next one is Stone strong and pop. Okay. Some moderation. It's a green stuff. You're going to say New York. I mean, yeah, it's very specific. I can not be involved with me. No, no, it's just places.

I still want you. After EPMD, you see it? No? I don't know. Okay. I got it. RB, B, N. Ah, EPMD.

Under that. I thought, after what? After EPMD. EPMD. That ain't a stopper. Damn. You know I can't see and shit. Okay.

After EPMD. I got it. I got it. I got it. Damn. That's why I told you we were waiting. Yeah, we haven't even budged. I think I can do this.

Oh shit. All right. All right. All right. And you got to make this. I'm not a fan of that. I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that.

I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that. I'm a fan of that. It was a battle at the time! Coliseum was ill though, son. Yeah, just what we were higher. All right, let me give the viewers who are...

We were high-handed. So you people might not know. You said Gershaw Coliseum. These were two malls, basically. Those were ill-gotten. Not even malls. These are like malls, when you go to Africa, they say mall. These are like little malls, like little malls.

No, they're just... Break it down. I live back in my own home. Like some little... No, shut little malls. Like nothing. I live in that mall. Like some little shit. Yeah, keep going. You are accurate. All right, so we at Gerst Mall. It was on Guy Brewer. Guy Brewer, it was the street where,

that's the street, it go run all the way down Southside Jamaica, all the way down to where Lost Boys and all them niggas was at, you know what I'm saying? Tiktaliki and them niggas. But it went to Jamaica Avenue where he said where the pizza restaurant was at. Like a flea market you talking about?

They're kind of like a flea market type more, everybody out there with a cheap type of shit. Flea market, yeah. Down here it's a flea market. You hit it, you hit it. You hit it. But it didn't look like that though. Coliseum was by the terminal where the bus station was at.

That's why I was ill, cause you had Laurelton, Springfield, Rosedale, Southside, everybody was going to the bus terminal and the Gertrude Moore was right there. They had Benny downstairs with the gold tee, they had the jewelry, they had the fucking sneakers, they had everything in the Coliseum, the girls, everything, fights.

You're gonna see two fights a day in the Coliseum. Easy. Easy. Easy, right? Easy, easy. I'm talking about niggas like the Boom Bash Crew, niggas like my nigga, my nigga Boop, my nigga, what's the nigga name? Oh like my nigga, my nigga Boop, my nigga, what's the nigga name?

Oh, my nigga, my nigga Boo. Niggas shot his leg off, remember the nigga? Oh, fucking B-Bo. B-Bo. I'm talking about niggas like that was in the Coliseum, wilding out. Niggas like Pompeii back in the days, running through the Coliseum, real shit.

We was coming up through all that era, running around the Queens, you know what I'm saying? You have no idea. And it was just crazy just coming up to see the Coliseum. That's the limitation. But we worked in the Coliseum. That's where the barbershop was at.

That's where we got, we made over. That's where you were shooting? That's where we made over a million dollars. Wow. We made over a million dollars in the Coliseum. That's where Honig's was born. So. Coliseum.

Call a cab if you what, nigga. Gert Smalls. No one's around that number. Hold on, hold on, you confused me a little bit. You want clarity. He said no like a million dollars. You saying, you saying, When y'all worked in the Coliseum

or y'all worked in Gert Small? We worked in Gert Small. Gert Small. We worked in Gert Small. You said the Coliseum. We worked in Gert Small Barbershop. They had another barbershop over there and I think the nigga, I think it was Joe's Barbershop or some shit.

I wanted to battle every nigga in Queens. Niggas ain't wanna battle me. So we basically picking Gertrude more. Yeah, Gertrude more. You talking about barber battles, right? I was on my barber shit, cocky barber shit. You got the next one. Park or DMX?

Motherfucker DMX, see? Uh, you all right, man? You don't know. What y'all doing, man? What y'all gave this nigga? What y'all gave him, bitch? You smoking? You want a blank? Now, you said Tupac or DMX?

Oof. Now, you, y'all both people who know them both. Both. I'm at the drink on that one. I'm at the drink on that one. Okay. I'm at the drink on that one. Rest in peace, the both of you. You can't, you can't, you can't,

I'm not getting involved with that argument right now. You wanna explain why? Me and Tupac born the same year. Say it, man, you can speak. So there's this story that a lot of people don't know about T.O.P. and Onyx. We was on tour. We did something in New York.

Jump on the jack, go to LA. This was right in the middle of the East Coast, West Coast beef. I mean, straight beef. The promoter runs up to us as soon as we get there. But pre-Pac being on death row, I'm imagining. No, he was on death row at this point. Okay. So this is already a little bit later into the beef.

Yeah. But the beef is thick. Right, right, right. The word is New York cats can't go to L.A. Right. We got to show what House of Blues is. I remember this time. Straight out of House of Blues.

We fly in, jump off the jet, hit House of Blues. We get on stage literally from the jet to the stage. Puffy Goose is on and everything. They just looking at us like we crazy. Going to the stage, go set up. The promoter is talking to them and he's talking to me. Another guy talking to me. We can't perform certain songs.

They don't want us to do Walk in New York. What? So both of them are like, are you kidding me? Like, so they tell the promoter, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, yeah, you got it, you got it. We get on stage. That's the first thing they call us from the, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, yeah, you got it, you got it. We get on stage. That's the first thing they call us. No, no, that's actually the last record we did.

But the show was going on and we looked, I look out, Pac is standing in the middle of the House of Blues, arms folded, just standing. The Hollywood House of Blues? Yeah. Standing there with his arms folded, not moving, not doing nothing. He got his whole crew with him.

Wait, what you say, not moving? You're saying he- I disagree with that. Hold on, I'ma tell you where it changed. Keep it going. I'm just saying it was arm folded just in the middle of the crowd. Yes. We go through four songs.

We hit last days. When last days drop, boom, boom, boom, boom. Pop those hands up. His whole crew, now everybody going and you can see him mouth, that's my shit. From that point on. I don't think no one can't move to the stage. From that point on, everything else we did was official.

Well, why? I think it was Walkin' New York when he said that. Well, Walkin' New York was last. That's when he said, that's my shit. Because we getting off the stage, and he was like, don't let me like curse Wait we said like when you on stage, uh-huh Okay, so hold on this is hit him up had already dropped

This is, Hit Em Up had already dropped. Hit Em Up was out. That's what I'm saying, like the timeline. Hit Em Up didn't drop. Hit Em Up was out. I don't know, I don't really, yeah. Well, if he was dead already, Hit Em Up came out. Hit Em Up was out. It was, the Vibe magazine covers was out already.

Cause you remember, we had Smith and Wesson on here. And Smith and Wesson, we asked him, like, you know, was that crossing the line by being around? Did you feel like by Pac being at your show? Thank you so much. And this is not as wine. OK, OK, thank you. But did you feel like Pac being there might have like fucked up this timeline?

Because, I mean, you just think about it. We you know, because even though you just think about it we you know y'all cuz even though y'all guys live in LA like this is New York shit and this is really New York against LA You're correct, you're correct. So everybody was thinking that. So everybody was thinking that. And... If he fucked up, if he wasn't there, you know?

Yo, that's hard. Like, for instance, I was thinking to Hotter Robb, right? If he ain't on that show, then he ain't hot at that time. Yeah. Like, oh, talk about you on Hotter Robb, you saying? You know what I mean? Yeah. The reversal.

If he ain't hot, he ain't on that shit. So it's a pretty different person. What you not did? When I knew that Pops had the love for us after the show, we go outside. Pops is getting ready to fight Keith Murray in the parking lot. No, no, no, no. Keith Murray? And he did it.

And six step in. It was not in the parking lot. It was right in the club. No, six step in between them in the parking lot. Keith Murray, murdering him. We love him. This is already, he already said this story a million times, Keith, but you know. No, can you tell it, please?

Well, from my perspective. From your perspective. From my perspective, them niggas was fighting inside the club. Well, they was going to fight inside the club. Red Man stepped up and was like, yo, chill with all of that. Niggas is just- Hold on, by the way, y'all didn't even mention that Red Man is there. Niggas is just damn. Hold on, by the way, y'all didn't mention that Redman is there. Niggas is just damn. You see how dope these guys life is?

His squad is Desquad. No, no, Desquad because Keith Murray is on the show. Desquad and I am. He wants to talk about Desquad. You didn't tell me. Wait, wait, wait. Redman is on the show. Yeah. You didn't say. You on show with Desquad. Desquad.

Okay. Desquad is Redman. It's Keith Murray. You know what I'm saying? Nobody don't want to fight, man. You know what I mean? Niggas love each other, man. Hip hop is, there was never East Coast, West Coast beef. There was never one.

That shit was all in some magazine. That was amplified by media. Because niggas, niggas didn't give a fuck. You think regular niggas is crashing out because you from the East Coast, West Coast, like, yo, you from the East Coast, I'm going to crash out. Niggas ain't give a fuck about that. You go clubbing LA, nigga.

I was out there doing my weed shit. I was the only nigga, I was the only, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm about to tell you, New York Place. But what I'm saying is this, like, I was living in LA doing a TV show in Hollywood, and I always had my New York Yankee hat on, always had my New York Place on my car,

and niggas showed up. I never had no problems, Yankee hat on, always had my New York plates on my car, and niggas show love. I never had no problems, not one time. Not once, well maybe once, but... That's always the one time. That wasn't my thing, but I was involved. But anyway, not really. Like, niggas, you respect niggas, they respect you. Right.

That's how I move in life. Compensation too. It don't matter where you at or what's going on, who got beef with... This shit is corny, man. There ain't nobody ain't no beef. You know what I'm saying? That's how I'm moving like, it don't matter where you at or what's going on, who got beef with Red. This shit is corny, man. There ain't nobody ain't no beef. You know what I'm saying? That's they shit.

And that shit wasn't even no real beef. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't at first. It wasn't the truth. Cause we all know Big didn't do what homie said he did. So we all know that part. So how real is it? You know what I mean? This is just

some future the fire shit and it's just niggas was on one and where it left us? It left us with some biblical shit. This hip hop shit is like the Bible. This shit is like Jesus and Moses. This shit is like, you know, this is crazy. The illest rappers ain't here no more. The illest. It kind of had to happen. It's crazy. It's like we're't here no more. The illest. It kinda had to happen. That's crazy. It's like we're left with Marius. What story is iller than that? You know?

It's crazy, man. Now we talking about our drink shams. The Nori didn't cloned you? No, no, no, no, no. They cloned me out. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, that was a...

Ooh. It was so sudden. Shit. He starts to laugh. No, no, no, that was a... Oh, shit. He starts to... No, no, no, I ain't gonna lie. He said... Because you know what's crazy? I realized how long we've been doing this. There's not a lot of rappers who met Big and M.

M. Bach, right. There's not a lot. And the, right. It's not a lot. And the fact is, damn, y'all know Big. And y'all so nonchalant about it. Y'all like, yeah, I seen Pac this night, and I seen Big this night. And I'm looking at y'all,

and I'm like, this is not normal. Yeah, that's correct. Like the shit that y'all saying is not normal. It's the same shit right here, go. Yeah. But I, I, you know what I'm talking about. Well, since we, since we talking about Pac and Biggie, I'll never forget this day. It was in Atlanta.

Puff was there. He was on stage, Puff was there. He was on stage, Puff. Tupac was with him on stage. Biggie. Come on, come on. It was like, pause, you went, wait, what did you just say? Yeah. Tupac was on stage.

Yup. And who was with him? Puff. This is before the beef shit. Yeah. They were cool. This is before the beef shit. Yeah. They were cool. This was when we were out. This was when we were out.

And Biggie was opening up for us. This is their mama. Yeah, so it was like, man. They just got a baby. They was brothers. And I'll never forget this, because I forgot a dat. I forgot a dat tape. Dat.

So I went back to the bus. When I ran to the bus, who's sitting on the bus like this with headphones on? Biggie. I was like, big, like, what's up? You're not coming to the... He was like, nah, I'm chilling. Like, he was just so cool.

Ice cold. I liked it. Had his headphones on, writing. While Puff out there dancing and you know, Pac was out there rocking. And what the fuck you was doing? Watch this. I was hitting my dad.

I was hitting my dad. I was hitting my dad. Oh, you know what? On some crazy shit. Y'all was doing, what the fuck you was doing? On some crazy shit. Y'all, drink champs, drink champs, I sent y'all the video. I sent y'all the video.

I sent y'all the video, it was pop. Yeah, you did. And y'all was the only ones that got the, did they play it? Put it out. Did they play it? Yeah, they played it. Yo, we just from the, to know Tupac, to know Biggie.

To know Norrie. We just from the era, you know? Like I said, me and Tupac, and I tell people my, I tell my fans all the time, I don't want to say fans, but the people at my shows, I say this. I say like this, like, I'm at the shows, I still feel young. Jamie, hell yeah. I'm like, the pop is saying he's the same one.

I like it. I'm OG, nigga. I'm way. I'm OG status, niggas. Niggas got great bands, y'all right now. I'm gonna be youriggas. Niggas got great bands and all that right now. I'm gonna give you your own. This one's coming from Boris. He said Peru or Chile? Chile. He said which country y'all fuck with the most?

Peru. That's what he wanted to hear because he's Peruvian. Let me tell you something one more time. Rappers, rappers, be careful. Onyx will body you on stage. Be careful, rappers. I'm just being honest with you. Earth is a stage.

There's no group like them. I'm just being honest. Look, yo, you know what I talk about y'all behind your back like this like in a great way I have to say this to your face. I've been I always brag about y'all. I'll be like even when the girl got arrested in Russia I was like I got reed. You went to Russia right? Yes.

So that was tobacco. That was tobacco? That was tobacco. That was tobacco? That was tobacco. I'm like, that was it. I'm gonna tell you, not just down to the air, everywhere I went with y'all, Onyx is accepted. Yeah, yeah.

That's the truth. You know what it is? As long as you fuck with Onyx, he's shaping our ass. No, no, listen, listen. Hip hop is accepting. As long as you fuck with Onyx, he's shaping our rap. Yo, listen, listen. Hip hop is as long as you fuck with Artiex, you safe in that rap. Listen, y'all might be in the first OJ.

Damn. You know what OJ says like- Yo, we cross that rock and roll shit. Y'all rock and roll. We rock and roll. Yes. When that Throw Your Guns come on, most times we start the show with that. Once that come on-

It's a rap. it's a rap. That sets the tone. When you hear throw your guns come on, it's a rap. We usually play T-O-N-Y, invade NY. The whole record, we be getting ready, n him out, then dance out of it. Over. Nah, no, it ain't gonna be no shake. And then after, throw your guns. We just throw, everybody get low, everybody get low, everybody get low, everybody get

low. Then shit come on. Then everybody low, then everybody jump up. One time, shit look crazy, my nigga. Like, you know, talk about energy, nigga. Nah, let me tell you something. Then we do back the fuck up. Then we do motherfucking slam or bitch ass niggas. We do motherfucking do fat. Anything for the first album

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stood in the bleachers the bleachers seats and I just watched and I watched them get better and better and better every night and And I was like, holy shit. This is the quintessential of who a artist is supposed to be. And that's the reason why, like I was so excited when they told me that I got onyx on the motherfucking drink chant. Yeah, that's right. know you're gonna drink.

But yeah, thank you. Live. We're doing it live. We're about to get a cut. You're gonna get a boy. You're gonna get a boy. You're gonna get a boy. No.

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He still got a headline. Yeah, that's my good shit. You're good. I don't know about that. You're good. I didn't do a smoking ad. He still got a headline. He good. All right, come on, let's go to the next good. He's good. He's good. He's still got a headline. He's good.

All right, come on, let's go to the next one. Straight up, nigga. Shit, if I had a headline, nigga, my headline left since Strap, nigga. Primo or Pete Rock? Let me get my shot ready. Well. Huh.

I would have to go with Primo. No disrespect, and that's respectfully to Pete Rock because Pete Rock, to me, that album, the Soul Brother album with C.O. Smoll, that was part of my life. The creator and all that shit, like that album, right? Yes. P-Rock is internationally known.

There's no producer better than Primo. I don't give a fuck who you put up there. Dr. Dre. Who's better than Primo? Nobody. Dr. Dre's not better than Primo. I do beats. I do beats.

Sounds like a verse is better than me. Dr. Dre better than Primo, nigga. No, that ain't what I'm saying. Dr. Dre, I had you back there. And I'm saying this. Dr. Dre is ill. I do beats too. But no, but nah, you mixing me up.

You mixing it up. Dr. Dre, he has a lot of people doing shit for him. Okay. So I'm a producer. That's the difference. Primo does his shit. Yeah, like me, nigga. I'm saying Primo do his shit.

I get busy. I do my shit, you do your shit. You know what I'm saying? Not Dre do shit. Dre's like a Quincy Jones. Exactly. So he just does nothing? No, no, no.

He definitely knows how to make beats. I love this combo by the way. Dre definitely knows how to make beats. But I'm saying, he's also Quincy Jones. So you said Primo against Dre? Did I just say that? What? You said Primo against Dre?

No. I said that. I said that. I said that. I said that. Drake definitely knows how to make beats. Drake? But I'm saying, he's also Quitsy Johnson. So you said Primo against Drake, or did I just say that? Like, you said Primo against B-Rock, right? Primo, B-Rock. Yeah, B-Rock, yeah. So how did Drake get in there?

I don't know, my motherfuckers start throwing things. See, he's throwing things. I don't know how Drake got thrown in there. I don't know how either. He's a bunch of shit. This is Primo and B-Rock, right? Yeah, all right, hold on, let's move on. Karris, what a rock him.

What the? Ooh, oh on. Karris wanna rock him. What the? Ooh, oh shit, Karris what? Sticky be like, bop, bop. He's like, bop, bop. Yo, did Jigga think about the truth? He's like, one to the head, two to the body. This what I gotta say. Boogie down productions.

There's no album. He make the wack and suck. Better. And's no album. We make the wackest songs. Better than make it better. For a boom and boom to let us. So your carer is one, your pain is full, your gig, your rockin'. We through my day. All right, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.

My aim is to be the best. And my aim is to be the best. And my aim is to be the best. Woo! Yada, yada, y list, moving on. Y'all know, y'all know, y'all know. Now rest in my case. Yo, listen, listen, listen. Kairos One is a master of this shit to this day.

Freestyle, on stage. Yo, but when you talk about all around MC, Kairos One is the fucking guy. Nobody better than him. But, there's no album better than the paid in full album, bro. That's the number one album in the country, in the world. What album is better than that? I'm the king of rock.

What album is better than the paid in full album by Rock Camp? What album is better? Tell me. Back the fuck up. I'm waiting. Album by Rakim. Damn, what album is better? Tell me. Back the fuck up. I'm waiting. Number one hip hop album, number one album ever maybe. classic shit don't work, right? Am I lying? Y'all can't argue with you.

You're like the first, like the first. He just don't want to argue with you. This shit, this shit. This shit. First of all, don't wanna argue with you, bitch. You're faking it. I don't. Like, you're like,

no, you're just, he's just thinking like, album is better. You're like, you're like the one of the best debate. He's just talking. Yeah, this is, I'm trying to figure out what album is better.

People argue any side of you, but I'm a constant hip hop. I ain't got a lot of you. You need your podcast. We're going to talk about that. But listen. We got the drink can. We're going to fuck with this money. Let's get it.

Listen. Because listen. But you got to think about it. Think about it. Rakim, that album. But it could be generational. The way you're saying it, it could be generational. No, but it transcends the generations.

I met somebody. We can't speak for the next generation. I met a white girl in fucking Dublin, 22 years old. Everybody. I don't give a fuck. I'm in a club. I'm watching her sing this shit with her mouth. I'm like, how do you know this shit?

How do you know Rakim? With her mouth? Did she know Karen's wife? She sang it with her mouth. She know her shit. As opposed to something else. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because it's, it's,

now this is true talk though. It's like, it's just, it goes on and on and on and on. Nah, I agree, I agree. Is it that deep? To a, to a, to a, to a right now. To a right now.

It's been a long time. I should've left here. What? Been a like, that's part of the fucking like, fucking lip. I don't know.. That's one of the fucking like... Karis One, I love his albums, but he ain't got that. Tell what? He ain't got that.

What about today? Right now? No, today, Karis One, like I said, Illah's freestyler, nobody can fuck with him on stage. So right now, like, you know, you take it back then. You gotta be from back then. All right. I say, well, Rakim has the number one album.

Karis one is probably the iller MC. Man, I'm drinking from both. That fucks with me. Karis one is definitely the iller MC. I never seen Rakim. I never seen Rakim freestyle. Those two right there. Have you ever seen Rakim freestyle?

Have you ever seen any footage in the world of Rakim freestyling? I'm asking you. I'm asking you. Okay, so, Karras won freestyles every show. Absolutely, for like an hour. So who's the better MC? I don't want to...

That would be Karras won. Here you go. But I... I'm just so confused. Yeah, you can do it. You ain't got a ring. That's that. I'm kind of confused now. He's sharp-turning it, too.

That's the stuff. You know? I can freestyle. I can freestyle with Karras one. I can freestyle with Karras one. He can. All right, let's move on. Yes.

Ready? Cypher Silver, Smith from Weston. Weston. I can put some on there. Jesus Christmas. Come on, bro. Bucktown. Cypher Silver.

L.A. and Cuba. Listen, listen, listen. All right, you're trying to trap me. I love Bucktown, man. Whatum town. Chakrasil, LA, Cuba, I'm at least. Listen, listen, listen. By Yachon Shrapnel. I love both of them, man. What do you call that? Who made that question up? Who gave him that question? You know.

Look, still, for Spencer Wesson, saved my life. I was almost the first to show it. I got to go to the bathroom on this one. I'm about to go to the bathroom. I'm about to refrain. So you said that. I think that means both or neither. I don't know.

See, no, he just saved your life. He went to school with Spencer Wesson. Every day He went to school with Slytherin Weston. Every day I went to school with Slytherin Weston. Wow. That's the same thing with me and Lost Boys. It's like. You went to school with both of them? Yeah.

Tekken Steel? He went to school with Tekken Steel. I went to school with Lost Boys, so, you know. I didn't go to school with Tek. So the Cypher Seals was... Yo, man, shit. Fuck, bro. Damn. I'm gonna be honest, I thought Cypress Hills...

You're gonna be Honix. Honix, always. I'm gonna be Honix. I thought Cypress Hills was from Harlem. A lot of everybody thought it was from Brooklyn. You're broke, my nigga. That's right, Cypher said Brooklyn. And then they did, if I can just kill a man in New York.

The first video was from Brooklyn. And Cypher's got love more in New York originally than in LA. Because DJ Muggs is from New York. Nah, because of the music. But in general, the sound is from the producer. I think he's originally from New York. That's what from New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying.

They was rapping off a nigga from New York beats in the West Coast, though. Why me? Muggs was an LA dude already, too. No, he was from New York. No, no, but he was in LA a long time already. But still, when you from New York, you from New York, nigga. You know what that feels like? It's an instant.

I'm moving, man. F.O.T. is a weirdo tonight. You know what that feels like? You know what that feels like? This is insane. MLT is a winner tonight. This is insane. You cannot argue with Reggie. No one, you're going to beat everybody. The podcast is back the fuck up. Back the fuck up. I mean like, you know, Mugs to this day.

Mugs is one of the other producers. So when we heard Killer Man, Mugs to this day are producers. So when we heard Killer Man, we thought they was from New York. And then they come to New York to do the video, they fooled everybody. Columbia knew what they was doing. You know what I'm saying? Columbia's smart motherfuckers, man.

I wish we was a state of Columbia. A tribe called Quest of brand new being. I'm going to bathroom. Wow, how you going to do? I'm asking y'all a question. I'm going to bathroom. Wow. How you going to? I'm asking y'all a question. I'm asking y'all a question. Go ahead, go ahead.

Who came up with these comparisons? I told you. Come up here. This is like, ill. You see that guy with the weird smile on his face right there? And that guy just sleeping? I'm trying to be actual, right? I'm thinking of a comparison with you.

I can think of where you at. I'm like, damn, comparisons are fucking ill. Like of where you at. I'm like, damn comparison, I'm fucking ill right now. Like, think about that shit. What a specific person they're thinking about it for. What man? What about, ah, real loud. He just, he got the razor on his face, son. He's not black, you can't put a razor on a black ass face.

That thing is definitely not black. I put a razor on my face, and some more time, I shit, fuck the fuck up. I put a razor on my head now, but the clip was, what the fuck up? I put a razor on my head down, but the clip was on my face, okay? And that's like, you know, there's a grape got a seed, you know, it's real or not. This nigga is not black.

Okay, but try and cook it, that's all right. You're so converted. So converted, he ain't got shit. I know what's going on. He said, look over here. Don't worry about what's going on? Punk Shubba. He said, look over here. Don't worry about what's in his ass. Wait a minute, Trev. OK.

I need you to tell the truth, nigga. OK. Quest. Talk, go, Quest. Yeah, lower theory. I love Punk Shubba up in my nigga look. Punk it up, punk it in. What, Grandpa?

Ellis. You know what I mean? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What the fuck? I didn't remember it that way. Yeah, cause you're... Come on. Yeah, I know great movies though.

You go on, Chalk, go ahead. My nigga. Yeah. Yep. I'm just listening. I mean, that's the fucking... The whole shit is the fucking, what's going on?

Cause I, it arguably, okay. No, I was glad. No, arguably is tribe, you, mob, us. Queen, you talking about Queen stuff, right? There's just tribe and you for mob though. No, no, no, no. No, no, tribe, it, no. It's tribes. Yeah, but here's the thing. That's when the

torch got passed. Cause it was a negative tongue. A native tongue. You're correct. You're all correct. It's time, you know, they're trying to pull. They had TCAG. TCAG.

So, but they And. Good thing we still. And then I sold in Long Island. Long Island. Right. Somewhat like. Fuck where they from. Okay. It's with the smithin'.

Okay, yes. No, you're right. You know? And then in W.A. Over there. And then on the stage. So the things the ages was over. So.

But I did. Respectfully. I did wanna dress like Grand Puba a little bit more than Q-Tip. But what do you mean by that? Like, cause like I didn't know what Tommy Hilfiger was. He introduced me to Tommy Hilfiger and I met Tommy Hilfiger and I had to tell him, like I met him in a restaurant called Billy's where I go through all the time during COVID. And we both had on masks. And they was telling him like, yo, Tommy Hilfiger, this is Norrie.

And I was like, yo, I just want you to know, Grand Poovah and Brandon Nubian put me on to you. Like, this is beautiful to meet you. Keep your fucker Polo. They went to school together. Oh, I definitely ain't say that. They went to school together, Polo and Tommy. What the fuck?

What? No, I don't know. They came up together. They was good. Oh, I didn't know that. They went to school together. I didn't know that. Yeah, they from the same, yeah. But it's the one time I met Tommy Hilfiger

and I had to actually like, you know, you're honest sometimes when you meet somebody, but I wanted him to understand that. I really don't like you. Give a fucking boob-eye check, nigga. Yeah, give a boob-eye. Definitely need to give a boob-eye check. Lord, give him a check.

That's a dot X. And then what's the DJ? DJ Alamo, my brother. DJ Alamo. Yeah, Alamo, yeah DJ Alamo, my brother. DJ Alamo. Yeah, Alamo. Alamo, my nigga. I didn't say that. I didn't say give him a check.

But I was just like, yo. You let him know. Yeah, I kind of did. Like, yeah, in a different way. I swear to God. I was like, yo, I just want you to know, I mess with you, and I'm a fan because of that. I've got a question at you.

Tommy or Polo? Polo. Polo. All right, there you go. To flavor. OK, we got more. We got more, right? We've got a lot more.

We got a lot more. I mean, I'm trying to cut it down for everybody. The source of XXL. Sauce. Sauce. This motherfucker shot at the, at the, oh, yeah, Sean should have have picked up one, right? I ain't gonna lie to you.

Yo... When they write the real hip-hop book, Sticky has to be there, the first page. This nigga shot... By the way, I know I got your numbers. I know I could have called you and asked you if this was a rumor. But I was like, holy shit. There's evidence.

It's evidence. The video is not evidence. Video can be tampered with. My bad. I'm sorry. It was a toy gun. It's AI. AI.

Now we can say AI. AI, you can play everything with AI now. We just fucked up. I ain't gonna lie. I know this is like the worst thing to be proud of, but I'm mad proud of you. I'll tell you something. I didn't shit up the sauce wars. I just sat on Madison Square Garden. That makes me bitter. Shit.

Shit. Shit. Come on! Let's go! Sticky! Saga Fight is live for you! The licks! Stand your shit up! No, no, no. What do you do?

Bootcamp click or Wu-Tang Clan? Oh, you're on some no. What do you do? Boot camp click or Wu-Tang Clan? Oh, you're on some books. Wu-Tang? Hold up, Wu-Tang or Boot Camp click? That's my niggas. I love it. Yeah, you can smoke a cigarette. You know, like, it's only one person who'll probably smoke the cigarette.

And we're going to let you. Listen, listen. He don't even have the authority for that, but okay. Listen, listen. I don't even have the authority for that Say this on camera secret, it's my friend cigarette. It's from our friend Sticky Icky. It's a free roll. On camera. I want y'all to know. It's a free cigarette.

No, I want y'all to know. Sprejo, Stik, this is your house, man. Like this ain't no radio show. This ain't no bullshit. Anytime y'all want to talk to the fans and y'all want to go direct to us, y'all got my number, but this is your house, man. I really want y'all to know that. Like, no, no, no, no bullshit.

This is your house. Come in here and let's talk shit all the time. Yo. All the time. We need you to spin it off. I'm thinking of Fred Joseph. We're doing the podcast on the network. What do you mean? We're already done.

Listen, listen, listen. It's already done. You remember in LA, remember in LA we did Drake Champs early? Yeah. That was the backdrop. Mad early. And guess what? When I did that shit with y'all niggas, I said, when I walked away from them, I said,

these niggas are on a song. Yep. Is that the third one? How long ago was that? That was damn near eight years ago. That was eight years ago. Ten years ago. We're nine plus years right now. We're about to hit ten years. That shit was before... That was damn near eight years ago. Eight years ago. Ten years ago. We're nine plus years right now.

We're about to hit ten years. That shit was before... That was early. We appreciate you guys for doing that, man. So this is what I'm saying. You didn't have to do that. We appreciate you. Y'all didn't have to do that.

Y'all niggas said... Y'all niggas... I'm talking to all the podcast niggas out there. All of them. And there's some great ones in hip-hop niggas. Absolutely, yeah. D, y'all the pioneers of this shit. There we are.

Here we are. There's no y'all the pioneers of this shit. See, sir. Ash, is that third one? Come on. You got the next one? Still going to try to go? All right, let's go.

Nah. Back the fuck up, or all we got is us. Back the fuck up. Ah. Well, I can start it off. Actually, my favorite is Shutta Dance, what's up, bro? Woo. Shutta Dance, shutta, shutta, dance. Shutta Dance, shutta, shutta, shutta, dance.

Man, boy, you just woke up. That's how I start, like. Yo, I, I, I, I, even though. You see my family moments coming out. This is the song. I got, I even know, listen, man, you know. Lord, at this song. This is a song. Listen, man. You know, Bionic's... Oh my God, that's us album.

Bionic's, you know, I produced a lot of joints in there. Stig produced joints. Agalope produced some joints in there. It was a great album, but the Back the Fuck Up album produced by Shaw Skills is one of those albums that's just a classic all the way through to the skits that we got from, we saw what De La Soul was doing with the skits. Everything like we put the album together like some, it was like the x-rated version of De La album, you know what I mean?

It was just the flip side of their album, like just bad, so I did. Like a village nigga with a gun. Bad B-Sibling. Bad B-Sibling, yeah, exactly. So, yeah man, back the fuck up. But I wanna say one thing. One thing.

Cause I know you said it, and I know you said it in an Archelon way, but as a person who you helped raise, I don't think you never made an album that's not a classic. Thank you. I couldn't see it. I can't see it. I can't see it. Like, again, I know we friends and we have each other's phone numbers and we get to, but nah, Slime, I can't let you say that. As a fan, this is me talking, no, no, let me finish. This is me talking as a fan. I don't think this is

an Onyx album that's not a classic. Those first three. So you want to take a shot? Those first three. All right, damn. Those first three. So you want to take a shot? Yeah, all right, damn. Those first three. I would go with that. Thank you. The Onyx album is not a classic.

No, there's a few left, bro. We haven't done it yet, though. We can go do it next month. Yeah, don't do it. Don't do it. Cheers, cheers, cheers. Know why? Yo, somebody drink a lot.

Thank you. Woo. Onyx, one more time. One more time, boy. Let me say something to y'all. That I hardly say on, I say it, but I don't say it this way. Raw, thank you.

Thank you for being y'all, because I promise you, if y'all didn't do what y'all did, the way y'all did and how y'all did it, I don't think I would be here. I don't think Dream Chance, and that goes for Capone and Noriega. That goes for Dream Chance, and now y'all can even claim Reggaeton shit.

Why is that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Spell it. Spell it. All of that.

The defecation stuff from the air is there. All of that, because, you know, I'm just being honest with you when I'm gonna take my shot. I'm gonna take my shot. I'm being honest with you. I'm being honest with you. I'm being honest with you. We're brutally honest. When you did that on Vlad TV.

That's a good name for the podcast. I like that. I like that. Honest shit. Every day. But when you said that on the podcast, I read. I like that. I like that.

I read and I talked to that people. Very honest with you. I'm just being honest with you. I'm being honest with you. I'm being honest with you. I'm being honest with you. Public shit, everything. Yeah, I got you. But when you said that on the podcast, I read. I'm just being honest with you. I like that, I like that. I read and I talked to that people. I'm just being honest with you, nigga. Being honest with you. Yes, sir.

I love it. But I read the algorithms. That's the fire. But I remember being there. And I was like, yo, Fretcho might have fucked the whole world up because that shit is actually, I can see it. I can see when it happened. Now, are the world going to think we're crazy? Yeah. But I'm crazy with you. I'm going to co-sign you. That's right. Crazy. I'm going to be the only crazy. I know crazy. So I'm crazy with you. Mm-hmm. I'm gonna co-sign you.

That's right. Crazy, but people don't know they crazy. I know I'm crazy, so I can't be crazy. You're not crazy. So who's crazy? So that's not crazy. But if you actually really... Now, if Jordan loses here at the same time and it just...

He can lose it. He can lose it. And it just worked out? It worked out like that, nigga. I can... The honest and the samson, nigga. I He said the rain is amazing! The rain is a macular, nigga. You don't see no lines. Nothing. Yo, the winter shit's stuck, nigga. I'm so happy now.

I'm so happy. I would be, man. We had the next question. We almost through the slime, guys. It's the last one? No, nigga, we never almost did a finished slime, man. Hell no. Finished slime, quick time with slime Finish slime, quick time with slime.

Quick time with slime, and then we go back to the interview. Big out or big pun? Big pun. Big out. Each time. We got to figure it out because they disagree. I don't get the point. Big out.

He's disrespectful, bro. Niggas say I'm the type of nigga that fuck your baby mama. He's really disrespectful. Who, Big One? Big L. Big L. Big L. Both of them are monsters.

Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. I want everybody, go on YouTube and pull up Big L, Jay-Z, Freestyle, on the radio. Oh yeah, that's crazy. You super hip hop. Yo, Jay-Z, freestyle on the radio. Oh yeah, that's crazy. You super hip hop. You know what I mean? Big L went crazy, man. He went crazy.

He went crazy. Jay-Z said honor to this verse. Jay-Z is nice. But that particular night, I think Big L made a name for himself. That's the L that was supposed to be on the rock cover. And he was supposed to be on the rock cover. Yeah. He was supposed to be on Rock Mother's Day. Yeah, Big Pun of Big L. How did Joc J get this?

How did JZ get this? No, this is about Big Pun. No, Big Pun is, no, he's amazing. We were out of questions, but Big L to me. You know, I'm, you know, Big L was... Big Pun. Big L, yeah. I want you all to take a look at something about him.

Big Pun is Big Pun. You can't go wrong, man. That's like a Benz or a Beamer. And they were taking two of the best lyricists to be honest. Definitely. Yeah. Definitely. Oh!

Big pun and big pun. All right. New Jack City or King of New York? Hey, damn. Love this. King of New York. I, damn. Love this. Ah, King of New York. I agree. Amy.

It's got to be New Jack City. But, look, King of New York, that's not Nino, right? That's got to be Nino, yeah. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. It's Frank White. Nino, Nino. Nino, Nino.

Which one is Nino, King of New York? New Jack City. New Jack City, correct. New Jack City, correct. You see the other one? The guy, the white guy. I see over here. And you had. You see any other ones? The White Guards. The White Guards. I see over here.

And you had your blade together, right? Oh. You were on... Oh. Wesley? Yeah. No, no, we do it together. I replaced him.

Oh, that's right. That's the gang thing. Gang thing. There's only one blade. You right there. I don't run around with blades. Fuck. Nigga.

Nah, nah. Yo, I love Wesley. New Jack City. I was just talking about that King of New York shit though. That shit was hard, but New Jack City was crazy. I.C. was in both of them, right? I.C. that's my nigga right there. Nah, he wasn't in King of New York.

He's there. He's in New Jack City. He wasn't in King of New York? Nah, nah, nah, nah. Nah, he was in both of them. Wesley was in both of them. No, he was in the other one. No, he wasn't in King of New York.

Wesley wasn't in both of them. Nah, he wasn't in both of them. Nah, he wasn't in both of them. Nah, he wasn't in both of them. Nah, he wasn't in both of them. Nah, he wasn't in both of them. Nah, he wasn't in both of them. Nah, he wasn't in both of them. No, he was in the other one. No, no. Westley wasn't in both. No, no, no. That wasn't Westley. Take it out. Yeah. Name.

Laurence is running the ill. That shit was ill, man. Nah, Laurence is running the ill. I worked with that director before. His name was Abel Ferrara. We did a movie called Addiction. He's ill, son. He's one of the illest directors ever.

He had the spoonie G all in this shit, you know what I mean? When you listen to The King of New York, he got the spoonie G playing in that shit. That shit is hard. But, he can't fuck with King of New York. I mean, he can't fuck with that shit. Who's Jack Sooty? Yeah, nah.

The Carter and all that. Nah, that's that shit. G Money, Chris Rock, Pookie. Come on, son. Right. They gave you the characters that you, you know what I'm saying? They gave you the characters.

You saw the movie and walked away knowing those characters. New Jack Seedle, you don't even really know Frank White. There's no other characters you knew. You know what I'm saying? What's up? No, well, no, it's Chris Rock, but yeah. Let me ask y'all, right? Because when you just said that,

for some reason, I thought about what Cameron and Jim Jones is going through, right? And I thought about y'all, and I'm saying, damn, you motherfuckers been together for 30 years. I know your cousins. He's not him. What? What?

What? I wasn't ready for that. But when you see, and know, you know what? Me and Capone recently, like he came to my run, you know, we just sitting around and we're like, we're putting it together. But that's something that we've never heard of y'all. Especially y'all. Especially y'all too.

Like, you know, Onyx in all, like you said, you started with four, but now it's two. Started with two, still two. Four, you're my big hustle. Like you said in the beginning. You know what I mean? I know. I'm a good human. I raised myself, I raised myself.

I raised myself right. Everybody do anything they can. I'm searching. You know what I mean? He come first. So that could never happen. Ever. It was like, you know what I mean?

He would be at each other. It's still, you know, cause the thing is there. One time we on stage, right? Huge crowd, I don't know why fucking 20,000 people are climbing the shit on the last days, right? The fucking- Speaker? Not the speaker, the fucking,

we go on shit. The sky, the sky. I put the mic about, fuck it, right? So I'm climbing, I'm high as fuck. Well, both highs. Right? You didn't hear anything. So I'm high as fuck. Well, both high as fuck. Right? So I'm up there. So I'm up there and the mic falls on my pocket.

I'm like fuck! And it's like four seconds before my verse. And last day, I'm like, and Sunseize Sunseize is the closest to me. He can't hear me. Cause y'all know, y'all know, he ain't even looking. First it was the first time I saw him. He see me. He throw the fucking mic like this.

Fling it. It's on YouTube. Look it up. My nigga, this is Super Bowl. I caught that shit. I'm about to take it my own life. That's the illest shit ever. That's dope. The fuck? He do it. Ever! That's dope.

The fuck? That's the connection type shit, you know what I mean? Like, he, you know, he's gotta say it. It's just like this. What's he doing? I feel like, thank you, man. We gotta do, we gotta make liquor. It's called a drink champs. We gotta make our own liquor,

that's the shit you was giving me. Sure. I'm taking another shot. We gonna box my shit and put it in stores. I need my publishing. Don't try to... No, no, I always... I know where we at.

I ain't gonna lie to you. Listen, I promise you, I'm sitting around thinking about the next movie I'm gonna film and I don't think there's no other director that I want. I like, I like... Can I get that in, fuck writing, can I get that on camera? Yeah, it's on camera. No, higher than when you talk about the price of it.

No, dead serious because... So you can't do a movie without... Nah, I see, I see your creativity, I see your dedication and I see your love. And it was like, you know what, it makes sense. If an artist has filmed these videos, it's easier for him to move on and movies. And I saw it. And in fact, if I don't use this for this, I'm not not using it because I don't want to use it. I want to use it because I'm being greedy. Right.

Oh, that shit is so... Right. You get me? He will work for me. Why you work for me? You got more? No, man. No, because I'm not going to lie.

Now, this part, I'm one million percent going to tell these people, Sticky Fingers is one of the illest directors ever in life because I saw it as myself, like this nigga's height Williams. But we gotta put him in the height Williams position, meaning all of us, like it's like, all right, cool. He's who acted, he's done all that.

But I got to see it. First hand. First thing. And I told him, I was like, yo, you ill. That's sensitive. And I was being jealous because I didn't know I wanted to use them for first. The movie Brooklyn Night is on the TV right now.

I'm gonna watch it tomorrow. Brooklyn Night? It wasn't free, right? I mean, I paid for it. No, no, I'll pay for it. Imagine if I had 50 million. So let's get the bread up. Bread them up, nigga.

Wonder Bread, nigga. I'm just gonna fuck out of 10. Just get away from fuckin' us. Wonder Bread, baby. Wonder Bread. Hey, let's stay fuckin' with us. No, we fuckin' with them. And, I love that question. I love that question. I love that question. I love that question. I love that question. I love that question.

I love that question. I love that question. I love that question. I love that question. I love that question. I love that question. I love that question. I love that question.

I love that question. I love that question. I love that question. I love that question. I love that question. I love that question. I love that question. I love that question.

I love that question. I love that question. I love that question. I love that question. I love that question. I love that question. What's up, son? Do you do the Bismarck, Bismarck? Bismarck was- OD and the off button, but you know- Bismarck, ODB was the next Bismarck kinda like, right? That's what you're saying? That's why I love that question. No, that's definitely, that definitely was the- That's a piece of both. The niggas-

Similar. Yeah, similar as far as like off style, just freestyle. But, ODB, that's not a fair question. Come and go with Bismarck, as ill as ODB is, the fuck, like, that's not a fair question. Bismarck, yeah. That one, I gotta take a drink. Or take no drink.

Bismarck, no drink. No, no, no, take a drink. That, he answered and then he said, no, I wanna drink. No, no, no, take a drink. So when he said Bismarck, right? He said, no, no, no, no. He decided, neither Ambo.

I said, no, no. Nigga, ODB, fuck outta here. A bitch, OGP. You just switched. What you want? I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just,

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Make the music. Make the music. Make the music. Mix that with ODB vocals. See how it sounds together. And I don't want to lead the witness. That's what me and Yif and always say, don't lead the witness.

But I want to ask you, this is the last one. Loyalty or respect? Respect. But respect them, you'll be loyal to them. You can't be loyal to somebody you don't respect. It ain't no fucking preach preach, just drive past. I sat there and thought about it, not the others I did.

It was a little easier. I think loyal, I think loyal to like, you ain't gotta respect, like I might even do something that's not right. Like you might not respect what I did, but you staying loyal to a nigga. No matter what. So that's what I look at it. You know what I'm saying?

Like, you know, cause a lot of times you ain't going to do the right thing, but nigga can still stand by you. That's, that's being loyal. That's the only thing that being respectful. That's hard. You know, a nigga can respect you, but he's still not. He can respect you and still sit on you. Damn. You know what I mean? He ain't being loyal.

I respect that nigga, but listen, I ain't being loyal to you. Being loyal, you ain't never do that. Loyalty is that you're not going after you. What do you think? I always take a shot on this question. I think it should be both, always. I always think why people wouldn't pick both. I always, I always, because to me, to me, to me, to me,

lawyer, T and respect should go together. Hand in hand, man. Hand in hand. That's the question. Are you going to read it? Yeah, yeah me, Laurie UT and respect should go together. That's the thing. Hand in hand, man. Hand in hand. That's the question I hear every day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my answer. You was giving me full notes.

But, but, but, but, let me, let me tell you, both of you brothers. Yeah, both of you. You got, like we started this show, we wanted to give flowers to legends. You guys are not only legends, but you're legends in a way that if this didn't, if your career didn't work, my career didn't work. This show wouldn't work.

This place wouldn't work. And I was so happy. Like, like, like, like, like, we got on it. I'm like, what? And I sincerely, truly, love you, brothers. And I know we speak and we cool, but I got to do this on camera.

No Onyx, no Mobb Deep, no Mobb Deep, no CNN, no CNN. You heard that? Oh, God, Walter, the roof. That serious? You heard that? I like truly analyze it. And as I was going through your discography just listen to your music I Was like, oh shit

Grimy Right I got from y'all Shaving my head I got from y'all. It's so much Yeah, but you, you bored for real though. It's so, it's so much things that I got from y'all that I, that I copied maybe, maybe unwillingly or maybe not knowingly or consciously, but you know what? What you just said, all y'all publishing.

So. Here's my information. Yeah. Yeah. This is my wire. Like all some real shit, some real shit. But you know what, when it's you talking, we can play your song to start our show.

And that's not gonna say that, that's a bad, the fuck. That's a real fucking word. So's so bad. That's a real suck up word. So. Baby Cupid. Right? Every show. You'll fight.

That's the way. You know. No, no, no, no, no, no. But let me finish my speech because it's dead serious, man. We really appreciate what you did for hip hop. What you do for queens and what you continue to do for hip hop. And I just want you to know, like, I know this is like, you know, but there's no onyx.

There's no none of us. And the thing in the running community, we say, thank you for running. So there's a thing in hip hop that I'm gonna start. What's that? I'm gonna say, thank you for being hip hop. Thank you for being a friend. And thank you, thank you for doing what the fuck you did.

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