Drink Champs - Episode 46 w/ Puff Daddy

Episode Date: November 25, 2016

N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this monumental episode the guys drink it up with iconic hip hop mogul Puff Daddy. The guys talk untold Biggie stories, Puff's brands and career and just o...verall some Drink Champs fun. Hear Puff Daddy, aka P. Diddy or just Diddy, like you've never heard him before. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/drinkchamps/support Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:50 Cheers. Yeah, what's up, y'all? What's going on, brother? Drink Champs Radio. He's a legendary Queens rapper. Hey, Hank Sagrita, it's your boy N.O.R.E. He's a Miami hip-hop pioneer. What up, it's DJ EFN. Together, they drink it up with some of the biggest players in music and sports.
Starting point is 00:03:09 You know what I mean? The most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one source for drunk facts. This is Drinks Champion Radio, where every day is New Year's Eve. Let's go! Hey, Hank Sagria, hope you're savvy. This is your boy N-O-R-E. What up, it's DJ E-F-N. And this is Drink Chance Motherfucking Podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Make some noise! And I have to introduce our guest right now. He's one of the most innovative peoples of the culture. He has stood on the front line from the beginning. He has signed with arguably the greatest artists of all times. Company after company.
Starting point is 00:03:54 You know, endeavor after endeavor. This man has stood there. He has danced. He has smiled. He even makes jokes about himself sometimes. I've seen him introducing Nas and he said, yep, I'd still be all up in the videos. I thought that was amazing that he can laugh at himself because what he's doing is dope shit. He's been an inspiration for me personally to see a black man take the world by his way and doing it his way and being successful at it.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I'm proud to introduce my friend. Dee Dee is in the house! Yeah! Thank you, Ry. Thank you, Ry. Thank you for having me. Or would you rather Dee Dee, Puff Daddy? Or Dee Dee.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I'm going to give you all so many different flavors for the interview. You know, this is an important interview. You know. Monumental. Yeah, it's monumental. This is the debut interview. You know, we're going to let the cat out the bag and make the announcement off the get-go. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:04:58 We just signed Drink Champ. That's right. I want you to vote. I want you to vote. Yeah. Yeah. So this On to Revolt. Yeah. So this is world permit. Yes. World permit.
Starting point is 00:05:10 And it's a celebration. Celebration. So you want some champagne too? We got some cold. I'm taking shots of Ciroc right now. Check this out. I could really drink anything. You understand?
Starting point is 00:05:22 I could go from Hennessy to tequila to champagne to whatever. So you're saying you would drink champagne? Yeah. You're just getting to the point. Oh, man. You're saying you would drink champagne? Man, man, I'm legendary out here. Legendary out here.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I'm legendary. Has there been anybody who ever out-drank you? I never really had drink competitions. But in your mind? In my mind, I mean, not as you know not as long i'm kind of consistent so you know you have people that do they they quit whatever whatever and then they you know and then they rocked i'm just consistently you know consistently the apple pouring and enjoying mango you know saying mango you gotta pour and enjoy and i consistently do
Starting point is 00:06:03 that you know let me you, sometimes for like three days. Straight. Straight. Straight. Straight. All right. Oh, you ain't got your shot? Nah.
Starting point is 00:06:13 All right, cool. All right, this is how we do it. Eye to eye, Puff. Yeah. We got a meaning. We got a meaning. We take a shot with the Drink Champs. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Now salute, and not only welcome us to a vote but welcome you to the drink change Saluting this that new mango you all gotta try it Yeah mango good Shampoo can you tell the girl to make me a nasty cuz I'm married I don't want to directly ask up You know me huh now fucking with this guy. I'm this guy his name shampoo you know shampoo he the street team yeah what up shampoo so so so did he how did you what was that moment where you was like i got the greatest rapper all the time man when i heard his demo if you go early yeah yeah if you go online you can find his demo um before unsigned hype you you heard it no i heard it i saw unsigned hype and that's and that's when i called maddie c right and mr c and i you know tracked down the demo from just the explanation of what i heard you know and um his look was so disruptive you
Starting point is 00:07:19 know that's a good way to explain it he felt he felt like miles davis to me you know i'm saying when i when i had first song but it was like it was it was a uh vibrational attraction that was dead like i knew i like stole at the stared at the picture you know i'm saying for like maybe six days you know i'm saying after hearing the music you see no no no at the same time. No, no, before I even got the demo. Just the picture in itself was giving me this strong vibration. And I knew that whatever this guy was saying, it was something that was really, really, really, really authentic. Just by the look in his eyes. Then when I heard the music, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:07 it was one of those things I immediately called my girl. I was like, yo, you got to tell me if this is as hot, as great as I really believe it is, you know? She heard it. She was like, wherever he's at, you better go get him. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Now, that's interesting that you said you called your girl.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Yeah. Because women are the biggest consumers of music. Without a doubt. So how did you know that early on? Because everything I did was for girls. My whole swag, my whole, you know, musically, dancing. I started dancing because, you know, I like really, I really trust women's opinions. And I like the vibration. And, you know, I've always just loved women that really were into music, you know, that knew how to dance and was into music.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I can't even relate to somebody that's not into music. So, you know, you know, I had a girl that was really into music, and I really trusted her judgment. So it was something that you know when it's something crazy, and you got a girl that's like that on that same wavelength. She said that about big pride to see him. On the demo, just on the demo. Yeah, the demo was crazy.
Starting point is 00:09:24 The demo was some of his best work. None of those tracks made it out from the demo? Nah, he was just freestyling over some beats, so it wasn't that time where you could just rap on somebody's beat. He was kind of the first to do that. I mean, second, when Cube did the jacket for beats, but he did it in another way.
Starting point is 00:09:41 But when he went and rapped before Ready to Die on all the LA beats, you know what I'm saying? Before that, it wasn't like people were getting on people's tracks, you know what I'm saying? So how did you guys start incorporating the R&Bs, the R&B tracks, like the Juicy's and all that? Because I can listen to Big's demo, and I can tell that that was directly, which was my favorite record by the way Juicy but how do you go about convincing a hardcore artist like Big um to that this commercial
Starting point is 00:10:13 this commercial success is something that he needs it really wasn't a lot of convincing I was like yo if you want to you know if you want to be big and you know first of all when we did party and bullshit he didn't know how to write a song so you know you know just like most rappers you know I'm saying everything was like 60 bars and everything and then so you know once you know I kind of broke down the whole song structure to him he was like a genius so he didn't he would take it and then and and he just really was strong on making songs so they didn't write rhymes his raps down um that was that was the second year okay yeah yeah this breaking news a lot of people don't know that yeah the first year he would write him down
Starting point is 00:11:01 by the second year you know he would just sit in the room and do it and say nothing for like maybe two, three days. And go in and just do it from head to toe. No punching in, nothing like that. Maybe a couple of times. Wow. You know. Let's make some noise for that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:20 But as far as the big records, you know, going after the Juicy and the Big Papa with the Ozzy Brothers, it was a vibe that I was in that I had already seen work to a certain degree. And I knew with Moby and Premier, we had the harder-edge tracks. And I knew that there was just this opportunity. Because even, you know, the West Coast was doing it in their way, their style of sampling, more commercial type of hits. But I knew that these joints right here, these were the things that I grew up to in Harlem when I used to have to do my chores in the morning.
Starting point is 00:11:53 These records was really, really deep, like sheet to me. You know what I'm saying? And just having that juicy sample and the big popper joint and then the one more chance. I had all that at the same time. So, you know, I knew he wanted to be fly and I told him, like, this is the
Starting point is 00:12:11 road to the flyness. Or else you're just going to be really dusty and be doing videos behind, like, in abandoned buildings. And he was like, I want to be fly. He always wanted to just have, make sure his gear was flyer than somebody that was slimmer. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Now, that One More Chance remix, like, us in the streets. As a DJ. The album was already a phenomenon. Yeah. We already knew where Big was going. But then, y'all, One More Chance remix. And the video that went with it was crazy. The video.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Like, how, like like what the fuck is you thinking to say like what was it because i got because i believe he was gold at the time was that like the record that you wanted to take it over to go platinum or yeah yeah yeah you know um as a producer yeah gate had given me the you know the confidence so you know when you really believe in everything's great and you're in that frequency You know you that's what you attract in and I attracted that sample and I was like this one right here This is this right this right here scary. You know it was scary, you know because it was a true record for the ladies And and not only that I felt like I felt like you and big perfected
Starting point is 00:13:27 Feeding the streets and feeding the radio. Yeah. Like, at the same time, you had who shot you that. All the streets, you know what I'm saying? I gravitated towards that. But you're killing the radio. Was that you who developed the strategy of feeding the streets? Or was it just the balance that came out of you two? No, it was more of a respect thing of I knew
Starting point is 00:13:46 what he wanted to do. And if we were going to have this partnership on making music and he was going to follow me down the road to making some of these bigger records, then I would follow him down the road to making more of the hardcore records.
Starting point is 00:14:02 There's only one line that I had made him change or just record that he went too far for me what he said what does he need this story did he yeah I think he talked about raping Mary and I just couldn't do it and he respected dreams of fucking an army bitch on that no this is this is just a freestyle it eventually came out though Nas kinda like set that standard when he said when I was 12
Starting point is 00:14:28 I went to hell for snuffing Jesus so all artists was trying to say something disrespectful but like still clever yeah yeah yeah but you didn't like that
Starting point is 00:14:36 yeah but that was the only thing that we had started to have a discussion about certain responsibilities he didn't really give a fuck but at the same time he was he was kind of
Starting point is 00:14:53 Whatever he said was like from from a a standpoint of lyricism It was yeah, it wasn't from this. It was yeah. It wasn't from this. It was a stand. Yeah, it wasn't like. A shock value. Like if you battled it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like if you're on the corner battling. It's a shock value. Yeah, yeah. He seemed like on the first album, it felt like West Coast influenced him a lot. Like that's the way I felt as a listener. Yeah, really not at all. No?
Starting point is 00:15:15 Yeah, really not. Because there was some samples that they sampled a lot of some of the West Coast records in some of the records. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. As far as me sampling, I was definitely influenced by the Chronic. You know what I'm saying? Even Ready to Die, that whole thing. So that was you, not him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. As far as me sampling, I was definitely influenced by The Chronic. You know what I'm saying? Even Ready to Die, that whole thing. So that was you, not him? Yeah, yeah, that was me.
Starting point is 00:15:28 I heard The Chronic, and I just really became obsessed with how they were able to make it sound like you actually got into a low-riding comedy. So I wanted Ready to Die to feel like you was in Brooklyn and from New York. And so, you know, Dre definitely inspired me, you know, on that one. Would you enjoy more producing or being in the front line as an artist yourself? I really enjoy producing the most, you know, because I really, you know, my lane is really to be the platform. You know, I've been blessed to be an artist and I truly appreciate and thank everybody for letting me slide in and get that off. Was it Big who suggested
Starting point is 00:16:08 you should be an artist? Yeah, yeah. Let's make some noise for Big. And was it the Supercat record was the first time you ran? No, I was on That's the first time I heard you run. On the Get Money Oh yeah, the Supercat.
Starting point is 00:16:24 I was supposed to be on the Get Money remakes but but I was just like, I just froze up a little bit. Get money. Yeah, because I wasn't really believing all the way. And the record was so fucking, it was so hard and so crazy. So, you know, so that's why Seeds is on that joint. Right. It was supposed to be you? Yeah, it was supposed to be me.
Starting point is 00:16:42 That's crazy. But then, you know, when I got with Jesse West, we were like similar type of cast, like a little bit shy in a sense of, you know. But still, once we got into our artistry, it was boisterous. But, you know, understanding how to ease into it. And that super cat thing was really wavy, you know what I'm saying? So it was really, it was more in my lane than the other joint. Like, fuck bitches get money. What was your dream first?
Starting point is 00:17:08 Was it being a producer or being an artist? It was just being in the record business on stage in some capacity. I started as a background dancer. I went to see a Run DMC concert, and Run held up his sneakers. And when he did that and I saw everybody hold him up all around the arena I could relate to that I was like I did there's a way for me to be able to get you know to to to be able to live out this crazy dream that was in my head like yo I could rap and oh I could really produce it was it was it was in me but when I saw actually saw the power of Run and what he had and how he was.
Starting point is 00:17:48 That's when you wanted to be an artist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's when I wanted to be an artist. And then I would say like 15, not even 15 years later, like 10 years later, I remember I was coming. I sold out the garden three times, three nights in a row. And I would come from the ceiling.
Starting point is 00:18:07 I would be staged up there. I remember the seat that I was sitting in. I looked at the seat that I was sitting in. From the Run DMC concert when I came up with the dream. He has a tennis ball from KRS-One from 1988. He makes up different years every time we talk about him.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Let's get to this line because this is everybody's. Can we have some water or some? Ain't no water here, boss. We don't have water. Tell him he's crazy, man. You got your own people. I totally forgot. We don't got water.
Starting point is 00:18:41 We just got liquor. But we got aqua hydrate. Sit you down there. We're going to sit you down. Oh, yeah. Who the aqua hydrate? They ain't hit me yet. That's with Mark Wahlberg?
Starting point is 00:18:49 You guys? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely. So I got to get to this line because it's like you shut all your haters up and you said, it don't matter if I write rhymes. I write checks. I write checks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Why was it important for you to say that? It wasn't really important for me to say that. I wasn't really getting, like, a whole lot of flack. I never came in the game acting like I didn't have ghostwriters. I treated myself like I was Whitney Houston. I was looking at Whitney Houston. I was like, there's something about her. She has some talent, you know.
Starting point is 00:19:20 This is a talent that I don't have. And my thing is to make the best and the biggest record, no matter if somebody else writes it, produces the beat, whatever it is. Yeah, it don't matter as long as it's the best product. I just wanted to make the dopest records to make people dance, feel good, feel fly. It makes something that was fashion. All your haters down. Yeah. It was like you ain't avoiding it. So, yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:49 yeah. Oh, yeah, but all my poppin' shit, can't nobody pop shit like me, you know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because anything I'm saying is something I did. I'm trying to learn how to pop shit. That's why I'm fucking with you right now. Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to learn how to pop shit. Yeah, yeah. You know, all my shit is truth that I say, you know what I'm saying? Anything that I'm saying is truth.
Starting point is 00:20:06 And when you know. Niggas got aqua hydrate. Look at that, man. That's good. I got to upgrade my life. You need the hydrate. That's the way to be a drink champ right there. Hey, yo, you with us now.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Let's make some noise for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Puff, throughout all these years, the best thing. You know, one thing you said to me, you said, Norby, every time I see you, we always smiling. And I really, like, thought back, I've been in the game since 1996, late 96, 97. And every time I've seen you, you always smile. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:43 How do you do that? Because I really just have, I don't have no hate for people. I don't have no envy or jealousy for people. So, like, you know, my smile is when I see people as real and as genuine. And I'm fans of everybody. You know what I'm saying? I can find something really great in anybody. That's the way, like, I see things.
Starting point is 00:21:04 And so, naturally, that's my thing unless I'm in a little bit of a funk. You know what I'm saying? find something really great in anybody. That's the way I see things. And so naturally that's my thing unless I'm in a little bit of a funk, you know what I'm saying, because I'm like tripolar, you know what I'm saying. Oh, shit, not even bipolar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're quad polar. I am? You really mean that too.
Starting point is 00:21:21 So, you know, whatever you're seeing is what you're getting, you know what I'm saying, but it's all coming from a place of love, you know? And I admire that about you. And another thing that I admire about you that I don't feel nobody gives you to just do is, I came over to your house yesterday. I was eating. I was about 15 minutes away.
Starting point is 00:21:38 James Cruz hit me and said, come to the crib. Hey, Ali, excuse me. So I went to the crib real quick and you have your moms there. You have your sons there. And I'm going to tell you something. Your son, you raised your son so excellent. Like both of them came up to me and said, Norah, you good?
Starting point is 00:21:58 You need anything? You want to ride the jet skis? And it was amazing to me. Because I'm like damn like if if my father was pop daddy i would be all i'll be insane you know but these these kids came up to me what were respect first off if you under 21, the generation nowadays, under 21, is the most disrespectful generation ever. Let's just keep it real.
Starting point is 00:22:29 They hate old niggas. Are you going to take another shot? Is this a shot? You're going to do a drink. I'm doing shots. Let's go. Hold on, we're blowing up, Puff. We got girls to pour that for us now. Mind you, it's the first time we have a girl here. I ain't going to lie, sometimes I like to
Starting point is 00:22:44 just pour my own shit. You like to pour your own shit? I like being involved. That's rich nigga shit. Show us how rich niggas do it. I like being a host, you know? Let's do it. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Let's do it. We opening up. We going to hit this blue dot. You know what I'm saying? Shit is gluten free, y'all. You know what I'm saying? They was wondering how I shed all these pounds. You know, this is the drink champ's drink.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Blue dot with salsa water. Yeah, blue dot. Are you pouring my shot, too? It's for free. Oh, shit! Yo, listen. Puff just poured my shot, nigga. I made it.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Yeah, you got to give love. Puff just poured his shot. Love all day. We made it. Let's make some noise. I made it. I made it. All right.
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Starting point is 00:28:33 You a stubborn nigga. You said, fuck it. I'm going to start my own shit. They weren't playing your videos enough? Keep it real. Nah, nah, nah. That's how you felt. Want to bring back the old MTV style, like where we needed music videos?
Starting point is 00:28:44 Nah, I was watching Re That's how you felt. Want to bring back the old MTV style, like where we needed music videos? Nah, I was watching the whole day today. I'm going to be honest with y'all. The story of me with Revolt was that MTV really gave me the network. There was a time between MTV and VH1 that I had the number 1, 2, 3, 4, 7. Yeah, yeah, just 24-7. They showed me a lot of love, so they taught me the game. And so when they started going into, like, things like Teen Mom and, you know, more reality-based things,
Starting point is 00:29:12 which I don't knock them for any of that. But it left the music for them. Yeah, because they had got so big, they needed to generate certain ratings. If you have a network and you don't generate certain ratings, then, you know, you get kicked off, you know? Oh, man. Hold on. I'm not sure if I can keep going like that. get kicked off, you know? Oh, man. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:29:25 I'm not sure if I can keep going like that. I got to draw. Mango? Mango, we got to pace ourselves here. Mango. I'm in. No, we ain't even pacing ourselves. We got to mango, all right?
Starting point is 00:29:33 We're going to take a mango, all right? All right, listen. Hey, I'm double-faced. Okay, okay. Yeah, so basically MTV, when I saw the door open, I saw that, you know, after TRL, like, you know, the platform to support new artists and up-and-coming artists and give people exposure, you know, had died. You know, 106 and Park, you know, that went off. And I was like, you know, we have so much creativity out here right now, you know, and I'm going from this me to we phase and I'm getting into my zone of what I'm supposed to be here for, for the music industry, which is being that
Starting point is 00:30:10 platform, being a source of information, making sure that I'm giving back, I'm giving knowledge in any way that I can help people achieve their dreams. That's what revolt was about. It really wasn't a money play for me. It was that we had no place to break new artists unless it was on youtube but it wasn't curated to a point from like from from a level of of specialists you know like almost like like if you see charles barkley or talking on you know on the nba show you know that he has the right to say that so coming from the art coming from the artist perspective I wanted to build something was for the artist and that's where we've begun gotta have a lot of work to do is it's definitely the most difficult thing that I've ever taken on business-wise and that's why drink champs is on revoke because
Starting point is 00:30:55 we're leaving you yes thank you because you made you made a really like very, very business-savvy transition into getting into this lane of the way you communicate with people. And sometimes when people see people that know how to communicate, they may not understand, like, the art in that, in holding a conversation and being able to communicate. He told me that. He told me that. He told me that. We had a show on Sirius XM. And if you listen to it, it's this. It's the same as I told you.
Starting point is 00:31:33 And I was always trying to find the way that we can bring that back. Because I knew what he does is uncanny. He's got that. You're going to stop talking about me? We got Puff Daddy in the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's make some noise for that guy. No, no.
Starting point is 00:31:44 We're going to show. Take a shot. Take a shot Daddy in the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's make some noise for that guy. No, no, we're going to talk about you. Let's make a shot. Let's make a shot. No, no, no. No, no, but check it out. We are going to talk about you. We're going to celebrate both you guys having the number one podcast. That's right.
Starting point is 00:31:54 That's right. Out in the game. That's right. And you don't understand being number one. So here's to being number one and not two. That's right. To the one and not the two. The one and not the two. gotta handle it baby now now diddy that famous source of war
Starting point is 00:32:09 speech where shug got up there and he said uh dancing all in the videos and all that did you you thought that was you immediately or it had to hit you later um i really couldn't believe it because homeboy me and him were friends. Wow. Who, Sugar? Yeah, yeah. He would pick me up from the airport. Wow.
Starting point is 00:32:29 You know. Never heard this before. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, we got to break some news here. He picked me up from the airport the whole entire thing. So it kind of had me taken back because, you know, I spoke to them as they were there. The way he picked you up at the airport, is it pre-Death Row, like when he was the bodyguard? I was the first young nigga in the game.
Starting point is 00:32:50 You know what I'm saying? I was 17. Hands down. And so then I was the first young cat coming out here. Uptown Records. Soul Train Music Awards. You know what I'm saying? Renting the fly cars from the African cats out there.
Starting point is 00:33:01 So, you know, I was really bumping with the cats out here. I used to have the CeeLo and the Crap Games, you know, up in my hotel room. You know what I'm saying? And I was from New York. And they was giving love. And I would invite all the different cats from the streets and everything. So, you know, that's how we kind of like met up, stayed in touch and the whole thing. And, you know, I was just networking with the brother.
Starting point is 00:33:24 And he would come pick me up from the airport, show me a lot of love. You know, I was just networking with the brother and he would come pick me up from the airport, show me a lot of love. You know, I really had thought we were cool. You know what I'm saying? Cool acquaintances. You know what I'm saying? Just being respectful from people coming into other cities and stuff. And so when he had said, I was like, whoa, I definitely feel where that's coming from.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I know. I know that it. What? Are they crazy? I was like, wow they crazy I was like wow and I was like you know I could blow this thing up right now you know you know and um you know I decided I just felt it was really dangerous you know I'm saying the way cuz the crowd was really if it came really really really with me and Zeno was on here and said he said he said they could have did that.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Yeah. They were just looking for the word or the, like those sum up and it's just crazy. And, um, so then, you know, we went to the tunnel, you know what I'm saying? And, um, and, and, and, you know, homeboy was in the tunnel, you know, and we go and have a conversation. This is the time where we run the tunnel, you know what I'm saying? The whole bar is mine. Let's not get the tunnel, you know what I'm saying? The whole bar is mine. Let's not get it twisted, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:34:27 I'm ordering garbage buckets of champagne. People are ordering, like, little things, garbage buckets. You know, the bar is where I would just stand and walk around. My feet wouldn't touch the floor. Make some noise for Pop Floss. You feel me? Shut up to the guy that ordered a beer at the bar as well. So to make a long story short, you know, this is where the after party's at, of course, at the world famous tunnel.
Starting point is 00:34:52 And so then when I had that, I ran up and I asked him and he said, no, I was talking about Jermaine Dupri. And I was just like, yeah, I was just like, wait, hold on. What? Yeah. Yeah. I was just like wait hold on what yeah I was just like you giving us too much Information yeah No at that point you said at that point I was scared because I know that the wolves that was with me, they was like real live wolves. And I didn't get in to hurt anybody.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I just wanted to be, you know, I'm from home. I don't want no violence. I don't want no danger, none of that shit. So it was, I really put it in my head. It gave me a reason for my ego to walk away. And, you know, and, um, you know, that's, that's the way that story goes from, from that night. And, uh, and it was something I just wanted. I was like, damn, cause I w I knew how much money I was getting, you know what I'm saying? And so I was just like, it was a, it was a business decision. You know what I'm saying? And so I was just like, it was a business decision.
Starting point is 00:36:07 You know what I'm saying? It was a straight business decision. It wasn't a being from New York decision. And it was a cultural decision because I felt like the power that we had was so strong that I could do something so negative that it would really kind of mess things up. And so I was like, he just said it wasn't me it was Jermaine Dupri and so you know you know this is on TV yeah yeah yeah he said that then at that moment after no he's yeah yeah I mean when I see when I stepped Let's make some noise for that. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:36:45 So nobody, this has never been told? Oh, I ain't never heard of it. No, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's never been told. But it's, you know, it's just the truth. So, you know, it depends on how you ask your line of questioning, how you can get to the root of it. And so, you know, when he asked the line of questioning, that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:37:03 It was honestly the scariest situation of my life Because of the level of power that we had It could have gone really bad Yeah It would have just fucked up your shit It would have fucked up a lot of shit But that wasn't where my heart was at So you can only move where your heart is at
Starting point is 00:37:22 You know what I'm saying If your heart ain't like You know what I'm saying My If your heart ain't like, ah, you know what I'm saying? My heart was like, you know, damn near, yo, can't we just all get along? What are we doing right now? We're all so hot right now. We're supposed to be doing things together. And, you know.
Starting point is 00:37:37 But wait, but wait. Do you think if you would have approached it differently in that moment, the chain of events afterwards would have changed? I think it would have been worse because, you know, at the end of the day, you know, it was a decision that the city was waiting for me to make. You know what I'm saying? They let me know that they was with me. What are you doing? What the fuck am I doing?
Starting point is 00:38:03 And you're ruining the conversation. No, I thought, come on, let's do this oh my god i just took the shit by myself i'm like yeah this is not going good this is gonna be yeah yeah. But just, you always have to be yourself. You know what I'm saying? Some people are gangsters that at the end of the day could just turn it up and just be like, fuck it. And some people have like a level of conscience because of their relationship with God. And so me knowing that I could do mass destruction, it wasn't something that was authentic to me. That wasn't who I was.
Starting point is 00:38:43 I just wanted everybody to get money, be fly, and dance. You know what I'm saying? Have pretty girls smiling and, you know, everybody getting treated with respect. So my thing wasn't there. You know what I'm saying? Damn, Paul. You're giving us some good shit. Syrah!
Starting point is 00:38:59 Syrah! Yeah, we drinking a lot of Syrah. You know what says that? My parrot. Syrah! That's some says that? My parrot. Oh, that's some rich shit. That was some rich shit. Let's make some noise.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Let's make some noise. Oh, my God. We are. Yo, I'm going to keep thanking you. I'm sorry, because I'm a thankful nigga. The other day out here, I thanked Whack, right? Yeah. And Whack called me and was like, man, you ain't got to thank me. And I'm just saying, I was raised with a mother.
Starting point is 00:39:25 You know what I'm saying? Like, my mom's made me say thank you. My mom's made me hold the door. And that was something, again, I said it earlier, but it was something that I admire. Your mom was out there yesterday. She had the fly. I don't even know what type of robe. She had like a dashiki kimono on.
Starting point is 00:39:44 You know what I'm saying? That was some fly shit. She bought me like five. I just wear them all over the globe. I ain't going to lie. I drank mad of your pinot grigio. Do I owe you money? No, no.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Not at all. Everybody eats around me. I got like a restaurant in the crib. Yes, you do. Everybody eats around me. Yes, you do. I don't say any of that stuff to be braggadocious. I say that to inspire the real ones.
Starting point is 00:40:04 You know what I'm saying? The real ones, when they hear that talk, they get right at it. They hit them books. They get focused. They start taking care of their minds, their bodies, and their soul, their spirituality. You know, the other ones that don't understand it, you know, it's not for them. I don't represent the 90%. I represent the 10% of the real ones that's out there to get in and make a difference.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Right, right. Now, um. So when you're around me, everybody eats. Nah, I love that. I love that about you. You know, one of the other things I want to point out in the Maya about you is when I, every time I see D-Rock, when I see D-Rock, I'll be like, damn. Because you didn't have to do that.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Yeah. That was Biggie right here, man. You keep him around. Yeah. As a street nigga, to do that. That was Biggie right here, man. You keep him around. As a street nigga, we respect that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, everybody that was around me, you know, just throughout that time and has really rolled with me. Like, they straight for life.
Starting point is 00:40:58 We lifers together, and, you know, and that's what it is. Because it was a lot of crazy times. It was a lot of real things that those brothers did. Anybody in my crew is legends. You know what I'm saying? Stand-up legends. You can look at their resume and just check it. James Cruz, Kenny Burns. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:41:19 You can really do a DNA test on that, and that thing is going to come back. Really, really, really official. Believe that. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser-known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams
Starting point is 00:41:55 and best-selling author and meat-eater founder Stephen Ranella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here. And I'll say, it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to the American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops, and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the
Starting point is 00:42:41 answer will always be no. Across the country, cops called this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi-billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. It's really, really, really bad.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episodes 1, 2, and 3 on May 21st and episodes 4, 5, and 6 on June 4th. Ad-free at Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Lott. And this is season two of the War on Drugs podcast. Sir, we are back. In a big way.
Starting point is 00:43:44 In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote-unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote. Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Karamush. What we're doing now isn't working, and we need to change things. Stories matter, and it brings a face to them. It makes it real.
Starting point is 00:44:24 It really does. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad-free with exclusive content, subscribe to
Starting point is 00:44:39 Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on good company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there, And if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience
Starting point is 00:45:31 is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now, Diddy, we just signed to you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:07 We are fucking with you. Revolt. We are rolling with you. Woo! Shout out to Ramon. But you're not exempt from the question. Oh, shit. This is what we do with every advertiser. Now you're losing them.
Starting point is 00:46:17 No, I'm not losing nobody. You know what I'm saying? Yo, but look, I'm going to do a twist. All right. Does J-Lo fart smell like strawberries? Oh, this is definitely a twist. He twisted to the left. Keep it real.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Just keep it real. Niggas want to know. She never farted around me. Damn. Three years, she never farted around me. Yo, yo, yo, yo. She's a very, very, very focused, intelligent, smart woman. Did you have a schedule to eat out at like Mondays at 8?
Starting point is 00:46:50 Wednesdays at 7? Hey, come on, Paul. No, no, no. You a nasty nigga. Let's keep it real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know what I don't do? I just don't kiss and tell.
Starting point is 00:47:02 You know what I'm saying? It's just at the end of the day My respect for women I respect your answer But I gotta ask You know that right You just said it You just said it
Starting point is 00:47:18 You cut the check We didn't get it yet but we know it's coming And we believe in you I'm checking the tracking But come on I'm checking the tracking on FedEx. But come on. I'm sorry. Is the question a little crazy? Okay, no, no.
Starting point is 00:47:31 Ask me. I like that. I like that. I like you a little more. Yeah, but he's looking at me directly now. That's good. My bad. Ah, damn.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Nigga just hit me with the text. I just got it. I did not know. Yeah, girl. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. I did not know. Yeah, yeah, nigga just hit me with the text. I just got it. I did not know. Yeah, girl. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. I did not know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Anything I'm going to say is real. Like, you know, my woman now is, you know, that's my woman. That's my number one woman. That's what it is. That's my queen. And, you know, I'm never going to be answering a question like, you know, that's going to be disrespecting anybody. No, no, no, but ask your question, though, B. You know what I'm never going to be answering a question like, you know, that's going to be disrespecting anybody. No, no, no, but ask your question, though, B.
Starting point is 00:48:07 You know what I'm saying? Take another shot. Come on, you're loosening up a little bit. Cassie's a big girl. You're loosening up a little bit. I didn't know Cassie was here. I'm so sorry, Cassie. Hey, yo, it's Cassie.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Don't worry about it. Mmm. You find out she's here? Oh, she's here. Oh, my God. Oh, wait, I'm so sorry, Cassie. Oh, my God. Come over here! You did that record about my wife. She did a record about my wife. On my mixtape.
Starting point is 00:48:30 You cleared it. That's how rich you are. You didn't even remember. You remember the niggas on Cassie's media. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm retarded. You know I was supposed to be on the occasion. You know I was supposed a product of special education.
Starting point is 00:48:52 You remember why? Get the mic. Get the mic over there. That was hard, man. I'm so sorry. I did not know. We're befuddled. I did not know.
Starting point is 00:49:00 She did it, my baby girl. The hazardous sounds produced it. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what it's all about. Damn, if I were a newbie. Y'all got to do another one. Yeah, because if I were a newbie, I know how to make up artists at least 30,000.
Starting point is 00:49:12 And her style is very expensive. No, no, no, no. But I would have done a video in your crib. Word up. You could have gave me the crib. That's what I'm talking about. No, it's not crazy like that. I could do shit like that now.
Starting point is 00:49:22 I could just tell you, look, I'm going to go to the crib. Yeah. I'm just, the crib, what? I'm just going to, I don't know. I'm I can do shit like that now. I can just tell you, I'm going to go to the crib. Yeah. I'm just, the crib, what? I'm just going to, I don't know. I'm just in bed right now. You ain't see his crib?
Starting point is 00:49:30 He's thinking, I got a W hotel. I know we drinking. We all over the place. Yes. One of the first things I did was, let's have another shot. Y'all have ways to like,
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Starting point is 00:49:44 Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go. Have another shot. Yeah, yeah, both of y'all. Let's go. We ain't going to do the chilled ones, though? It's chilled? I'm sorry. All right. And we need to get Maria over here. Who's Maria? Who's Maria?
Starting point is 00:49:56 Maria sounds like the queen of Colombia. What's her name? Know what's wifey's name? Kamazu. What's your wifey's name? I don't know. She's over there. Oh, Nary, Nary, Nary.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Nary. Nary, Nary, Nary. Nary. Nary and Nori. Nary. Nary, Nary, come over here. Nary, come over here. I'm going to ask the question that needs to just be asked about, you know, this great king.
Starting point is 00:50:21 How is it to be married to this man with so much charisma and so much life and so much, you know, so much resilience? It's like being married to me, myself and Irene. You ever saw that movie? So, yo, check this out. At the end of the day, you see in that movie. So, yo, check this out. We love you, Diddy. At the end of the day, you're seeing the real. Yo, if you come on this show, you have to be prepared.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Yo, I can't believe you. You gotta be prepared. They're gonna ask some questions that are not even meant to be disrespectful, but that's the show. They're gonna ask the questions and say the things
Starting point is 00:50:59 that the people wanna know and the people are saying. You know what I'm saying? This is one of the craziest, realest motherfucking eccentric interviews I've ever done and I want to thank y'all for giving me this moment. You can't go nowhere right now. You leaving right now?
Starting point is 00:51:14 Let me ask you this. As a person that knows you, right? It seems like you started only having fun again when you started hanging back out with French Montana. Am I accurate or am I buggy? You're truly accurate.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Ooh, accurate. Hey, yo, yo. Huh? Huh? Yeah. Come on. Accurate? Accurate.
Starting point is 00:51:35 You don't know how to pronounce shit over here, did he? Come on. You sound a resourceful. I'm going to tell you this. French Montana is an angel. You know, when God brought him into my life, you're talking with somebody that's, like, pure. He's not even in a negative zone or space, even anything. Like, he just knocks it away from him.
Starting point is 00:51:57 And he's taught me so much and been such a great friend. He taught you, I'm saying. And he made me smile. He made me so much and been such a great friend. He taught you. And he made me smile. He made me start smiling again. I felt like after big, like, because I knew you since 97. And I felt like your smile wasn't. Yeah. It was getting kind of fake.
Starting point is 00:52:18 You know what I'm saying? Because I had lost a lot of my spirit. You know what I'm saying? You think I'm accurate? Absolutely. Super accurate. You're making me a real journalist right now. Stop. You put too much pressure on me.
Starting point is 00:52:29 You told me now. And Delion Tequila. For real, we want to thank y'all for coming. And I really want to congratulate these brothers. I came here to get really, really, really, really, really fucked up in a responsible way. And you did. Thank you. And I came here to just be vulnerable and share with people that I trust in a comedic
Starting point is 00:52:51 way, in an entertaining way, and in a way for the people that support us and never see us vulnerable because we act too cool. You know what I'm saying? Real talk. He understands the show. He understands the show. Thank you very much. He understands the show. He understands the show. Thank you very much, bro. He understands the show.
Starting point is 00:53:09 So congratulations to you, my brothers. And, you know, anything that we said that was inappropriate, fuck it. Let's go. Dream Champs right here on Revolt and the number one podcast in the motherfucking world. That's right. I'm so sorry, sister. Do we get a t-shirt? Of course.
Starting point is 00:53:31 You get a t-shirt. You get whatever you want, sis. And I'm going to be honest. You got the trophy. You know we get either ass or either the ear, right? Oh! Oh!
Starting point is 00:53:46 Oh! Oh! Oh! Open up. It's open already. You're missing five dollars. What? Oh! Where's the shit? Oh! Where's the shit? No!
Starting point is 00:54:08 That's a super drink, that shit! That survival of the fittest! What is that? Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh my God. Yo, that's the super tree. That's it.
Starting point is 00:54:37 No way. He's got the challenge. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. I'll tell you when I'm good, B. Oh! And a little water. And a little water.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Salud. We all drink on this. I'm in. You're not drinking from the cup. I'm in. Yeah! Let's go. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Drink Champs! Hey, yo, Haz, hold up one second. I want to let everybody know they can check us at drinkchamps.com. Drink Champs! You can check me, DJ EFN, at Who's Crazy Instagram, at DJ EFN on Twitter, at Who's Crazy on Snapchat. Make sure you follow the team, our visual media manager, Rich Blanco, at Rich underscore Blanco on Instagram and Twitter. Our engineer, Hazardous Sounds, at Hazardous Sounds on Instagram and Twitter. Our photographer, Big Drain, at Drain on Instagram and at Big Drain on Twitter, our graphic artist AKZ at AKZ916 on Instagram and Twitter. Also shout out the whole CBS Play.it team. Follow them at at Play.it on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:56:18 And make sure you grab yourself some Drink Champs shirts, shot glasses and cups and all that merch at DrinkChamps.com or check our homies at 8and9.com. Head over to iTunes and pick up the singles for the win moguls and petty as well as the drunk uncle project from nori also my album another time is out now available on itunes spotify google play or physicals at crazyhood.com check hazardous sounds project save the culture and you can check that at hazardous sounds.com or check it on all digital platforms. Also, look out for Nori's cooking show coming very soon and my coming home Vietnam film,
Starting point is 00:56:51 which you can see the previous films about Haiti, Cuba and Peru currently on Revolt TV. Shout out the whole Drink Champs army. We really appreciate your support and we out of here. I know a lot of cops. They get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
Starting point is 00:57:40 This is Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. Listen to Absolute Season 1, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Why is a soap opera western like Yellowstone so wildly successful? The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West
Starting point is 00:58:12 and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to the American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your gut microbiome and those healthy bacteria can actually have positive effects. Your mental health, your immunity, your risk of cancer, almost any disease under the sun.
Starting point is 00:58:37 This week on Dope Labs, Titi and I dive into the world of probiotics, the hype, the science, and what your gut bacteria are really doing behind the scenes. From drinks and gummies to probiotic pillows. Yes, really, probiotic pillows. We're breaking down what's legit and what's just brilliant marketing. With expert insight from gastroenterologist Dr. Roshi Raj. Listen to Dope Labs on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This Pride Month, we are not just celebrating.
Starting point is 00:59:10 We're fighting back. I'm George M. Johnson, author of The Most Banned Book in America. On my podcast, Fighting Words, I sit down with voices that spark resistance and inspire change. This year, we are showing up and showing out. You need people being like, no, you're not what you tell us what to do. This year, we are showing up and showing out. You need people being like, no,
Starting point is 00:59:25 you're not what you tell us what to do. This regime is coming down on us, and I don't want to just survive. I want to thrive. Fighting Words is where courage meets conversation. Listen on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:59:43 This is an iHeart Podcast.

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