Drink Champs - Episode 461 w/ Max B

Episode Date: July 11, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the one and only, Max B!The “Wave God” himself— joins us, fresh off the heels of announcing his long-awaited prison release date. Max dives deep into his journey behind bars, his mindset during those years, and the mental and spiritual growth that shaped him.Max shares his journey from the early days in Harlem, his rise to hip-hop acclaim, and the mixtape era that baptized the world in “wavy” culture. Expect intriguing tales of forging his own path—with vivid flashbacks to collaborations with French Montana and the C*ke Wave movement.Max opens up about his mindset as “Wavy Baby,” setting expectations for post-release life, and mapping out his plans to re-enter the music landscape with A-list collaborations. He reflects on legacy, endurance, and the meaning of freedom, all while having a good time with the Champs!Make some noise for Max B! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.comFollow:Drink Champshttp://www.drinkchamps.comhttp://www.instagram.com/drinkchampshttp://www.twitter.com/drinkchampshttp://www.facebook.com/drinkchampsDJ EFNhttp://www.crazyhood.comhttp://www.instagram.com/whoscrazyhttp://www.twitter.com/djefnhttp://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodprod...N.O.R.E.http://www.instagram.com/therealnoreagahttp://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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November 9th baby, how we ball, how. This is really official right now. One million percent. We gon' have Max be on the streets. This ain't even the first time I said I was coming out this year. When I first made the announcement on the other joint, wasn't that button joint, that was the first time I made the announcement. I never made no announcement before that.

So first of all, my brother, they know shit, but you know, I know more. That was the first time I made another I never made no announcement before that so They know shit, but you know I know more I know more about me, so November night 2025 Sunday morning first birthday Max Bigelow is walking out a long to state prison a free man out. So let me ask you, let me ask you, have you been recorded in there? Like, you know, we heard the story of Oz Cartel making a hit record in there, coming home and using the record that he recorded in prison and dropping it. Is Max Bigelow doing that? Let me tell you something. And I say this with no ego, no pride. My music is brutally masterful at this very moment right now as we speak. Brutally masterful. Have y'all ever thought of Bigelow or anything before which I thought y'all If y'all ever thought a bigger valve or anything before,

or what y'all thought y'all thought y'all knew, there's nothing like now. This shit is next level, space age, space invader. This shit real. Get ready. That's all I'm gonna do. Let me talk, let me back it up. Give me a chance to back it up. Give me a chance to back it up.

Alright? So, so you know, you know, it's been rumors like sometimes when people go to jail, like, you know, like, you know, with the shine situation, he came home, and you know, you know, Tupac came home and obviously he did the opposite. But do you think you lost a step at all? You're abreast of what's going on. You understand what's going on in the streets right now. Listen, this is how I feel about it. Me coming in here, when I came in here, I blew trial, I had 75 years.

Well, at that moment, I ain't really gonna fuck what was going on in the streets after that. My job now is to go up in here and get ready to do this time and, and, and, you know, just get settled in. I wasn't even Max B no more after I got convicted. I slipped all out of the way. I went back regular, had to rebuild myself up. So once I got to training, you know,

got my shit together and start bouncing back, start looking and start working on my case and, and then, you know, get my pockets pressed together. I got with the right people. Frank, Frank, Frank Babar tapped in and helped me get my shit right. Helped me get, get my business right, get everything caught up. The next thing we started working on the case and then they told me I could end up back in court. I had some issues. Shit worked out. Here we go. I wound up copping out to the 21st to 85. I got 18, 17 and a half.

I'll be home in five months. My nigga, I'll be home November 9th. That's like five months. Yeah. So that's that. There's a lot of Super Teen over there, but that's how that went kind of in the short summary. How much is that total at the time you did that, after you come home November 9th?

How much was that total? I don't know. At least, damn, it's six like about six thousand or something days in this motherfucker about 60. I know I do the math it's like 6,300 days. Wow. It's like 6,300 days but um I'm gonna tell you this nigga I'm gonna write the book on this shit unfortunately I did I did show how to be a successful, come out, be a successful, rehabilitated motherfucking G.

Thanks, Khan. And I really got this shit together when it come out. So it's gonna look good. You already know I ain't got no gray hair. I look good. I work out. I'm in checkered out shade. I'm beautiful.

My music ready to go. Man, listen, I'm a fine nigga. I'm ready to go, bro. We ready to go. I'm a check out say don't do the cool my music way go man. Listen, I'm a fine nigga up on my hub. I'm ready to go bro. We ready to go. I'm a fine specimen still to this very day. To this very goddamn day. Now, don't thank you beloved. Yeah. So let's talk about your new management. Yes, that's it. Charminopoli, J O'Shape, I'm riding the wave now. Listen, I had to put some things in play, you know what I'm saying? You know, they got the experience. You know, I used to work with Jolie back in the day, and John, I always knew John from back in the day when I was out there. So it all just came together.

Everything happened organically. Everybody was still around. Everybody was still working. I still was putting out music through all the person sit out to watch it So I always been working. It's only been working. She had an artist job to doing this thing What kind was anybody been working? Well, honestly the whole time bigger brother in this mall, right? Working to come out to change the fucking landscape Get ready

I think the world is ready for you. I think everyone, what would be your first move when you come home? My first move, I'm going to work. We ain't wasting no time. The second I walk past that threshold, we gonna have film going off, because I'm gonna give them their,

we live for some reason. When I was planting crops back in my day when I was out, it seemed like the shit I was doing is kind of like transcended to like full blast. We're like, well, probably this is like really making a nice, comfortable living over there. So I said, you know what? It's falling all right. It's all running to cover. I'm going to fall right into the place People want to see banks being aware. Well, guess what? They know it ain't not gonna get no you know, I know I'm not no watch them I'm a new york fly nigga to the death

Stab you won't get waiting you won't be you won't be cheering you go get slick Tell me you won't get you won't be paying They'll make me no more. They'll make us no more. No, you know that You gonna get ganged. They don't make me no more. They don't make us no more, no. You know that. So let me ask you, Drake said, I got little Max Whitby, he's the wave.

What did you feel about that line? Listen, South to South to South to Poppy. It was good, listen. Anytime somebody throw the love or give a nigga that gorilla promo, that's love from the heart a n***a that gorilla promo. That's love from the heart. That's love from the heart. Shout out to Champagne Poppy Cat.

Big Cat had my cheese. Big Cat, shout out to Big Cat. Shout out to Carl Anthony Towns, Big Cat. The big bull d***, the big turkey cheese, and the tomato. I had my motherf***ng supreme, my supreme two minute sellout global t-shirt on at the press conference he came to.

Even though we lost, and Stan was a big loss. Look at the big cap. Give me a big cap. Give me a big cap. Hold on, hold on. Another person who kind of says, that I don't want to say,

I'm paraphrasing obviously, is Wiz Khalifa. Wiz Khalifa always says that like, if he didn't have your mixtapes, or he didn't have your music, he wouldn't be who he is. How you feel about that? Listen, South of West, that's like,

21 Cold West little bro, that's just bro right there. Bro, there, bro 100, you heard? He did some things for me along this stretch that was real pivotal, he came through, wasn't about no money, he just showed straight love. That's bro. I love him South of West. Yes. He's telling the truth. He telling the truth. I'll let you know. Tell the truth. I know I asked you this earlier, but I'm asking to you in a different way.

I know you said the first thing you want to do, you said you were hitting a studio, but you know, acts like if you if you want if you're on death row will be your last meal so you coming home from jail what would be your first meal that you can get that that max big avail want to have your first meal when people don't know big avail is an inspiring chef i will be coming out on my college every church so with that being said we gonna go to one of these nice, real organic supermarkets. We gonna have the film going on.

Everything is gonna be an experience. That's what, that's gonna be part of my own, you know, my come-on documentary. It's gonna be a come-on tour for Max Bickleville. So it's gonna be like me coming into the world for the first time. As a baby, every new thing, everything new to be a new experience. Every pair of jeans I wear, every restaurant I go to, everything is going to be new. So, you know, I probably just cooked some from scratch, bro, in the crib, bro. That's how I give it up. I like

that. Before I went in, I started making my own shit in the crib. I do my own thing, but I'm bigger than I'm full, bro. You know what I'm saying? I don't know if you remember one time we were all hanging out and I was at the bar getting drinks and you French saw Roxy Reynolds and y'all went crazy. I didn't know who Roxy Reynolds was. Do you remember that? I remember that. We had the W. Yeah, yeah. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that doing our shit, you know, that was on our. We could give them a change of rules. I remember that night,

Julen, we wasn't even Buffalo Wings or some shit. Oh yes, we were. Yes, we were. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So let me ask you, that's the one thing, that's the one thing that hip hop is missing right now. If a person got bars, they don't got personality. One thing that you always brought to the game was style and personality. Do you think that you could keep up with this new style?

Like, you know what I mean, be who you are? I mean, keep up? I don't think it's ever about keeping up. I got my own stuff. So it's like, I don't really need to keep up. I'm't think it's ever about keeping up. I got my own stuff, so it's like I don't really need to keep up. I'm a drinks center actually, I don't have to keep up with nothing. When you look at the wave generation, this wave coaching, it's really my shit. It is the thing. You're right.

Look bro, here's the thing. And like I'm saying, I'm gonna let y'all know this right now on the air. Everybody hear it. And that's like I'm saying I'm gonna let y'all know this right now on the game everybody ever I guarantee y'all I Got something that nobody know about I got a whole new thing going on I don't know some everybody don't know I got the formula 54 Hey, you try my cheap up. They can't keep up with me. I'm a fly. Dawg, you know what's going on, man? Come on, my niggas.

Brown and shit. What's your boy? So let me ask you, let me let me ask you, because you think I forget we're rap. I think it's me. And he said that rappers is a father. They are like minutes remaining. I'm going to call back. I'm glad they heard that. Oh, OK. All right. I'm gonna call him back. I'm glad they heard that. Hold on.

Okay. All right. All right. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Thank you for your time.

Bye bye. Yo. Yo. Yo. I'm glad they heard that. That was good to hear that. Yeah. Yeah.

So listen, I believe it was Mace, but I'm not sure. But he said rappers should give him father's day cards. Like you literally started a whole wave. We literally started a whole wave of people. Who do you think owes you a father's-day card like you literally started a whole wave literally saw the whole wave of people Who do you think owes you a father's-day card? Listen bro, I ain't reinvented well. I just came with my own thing. Nobody owe me nothing bro. Nobody owe me nothing. Nice big of ass. Don't want nobody to owe nothing. I like to earn and work for my team. You know, I'm just saying I just contribute to this game. I work for my team. You know, I'm just, I just contribute to this game.

I work hard, I'm passionate about what I do. Nobody know I work on my shit 24-7, all day long. That's all we do, just for the people. So I kinda feel like, you know, for anything, I think I owe the game, you know what I'm saying? It's an honor and a privilege to have my musical dream come true. That's all I ever wanted was to be able to put my sound out to the masses.

But at this point, where I perfected my craft and I'm about to come home after all this time, that's like the pure excitement to me, like to just go back in and recreate a whole new, new, bigger band. And y'all gonna eat this shit the fuck up. I swear to God, y'all gonna eat it. the fuck up I swear to God I'm gonna eat it. Alright so is there any plans for your first concert? Uh I think we're working on some first, ain't we working on the first one Jones?

Oh we got some- Rolling Loud, Rolling Loud presents Max B's home. Uh oh, uh oh, uh oh, so you know that's gonna be where we got some, we got some rockets. So look, being that we live, y'all better hop a lot of joes right now. Y'all better get in that line up. And that thing gonna be, listen, if anybody, somebody gonna be there, you know they wanna meet the Big Vail. Alright.

So, so, pull up. So where would this concert take place at? Your very first concert. It's getting confirmed now. John has opened the line, so it's getting confirmed now. Okay, I'm not going to go back. Everybody's going to know. They're going to know about it. No, but I'm going to be honest.

As a person who just seen Bob Scott tell come home, his first cancer was in Jamaica and then he came to drink champs and then after that he did in Miami. I'm not suggesting anything but I believe your first cancer has to be in New York City. The town, the city that builds you and makes you. Mecca? Yep, needs to see you first. That's just me, that's just a suggestion.

You know what I mean? That's in Mecca, that's in Me I love that. Let me ask you, what do you miss more? I mean, you know, I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that.

I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that.

I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I come on last and finish him. Yeah, I love that, I love that. Let me ask you, what do you miss more, Max, recording or performing? And I'm talking about as a free man.

I'm not gonna lie, I miss performing. But I'm gonna tell you something, it's a, you know, I don't know about if everybody's doing that, you know, writing, songwriting, like it's different for me, but like when I go in, that's like my solitude, that's my skin for the world, but then just to, for the, had a blank canvas, it didn't have that shit filled up the way you want it, for the melodies and words I bring that shit to to life and they hear that shit, my nigga, that's the greatest feeling in the world.

So, performing is good too. You know, when I was early on, I used to like the girls, the groupies, they should not be jumping all off the stage where I was. But, you know, that was my little sex life too, but it ain't not like recording, bro. That's the best it gives. That's the best he can. That's the best he can. Wow. Wow. Wow.

So what's your... What's your faith? What's your... No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, hasn't known the whole back to be is what would you say the first thing that makes you listen to your to your stuff? Yes. I think I never heard bigger. They gotta go back to the domain one. You gotta start because all my shit is in the middle of it.

But it won't, it won't do no justice because all my shit is balance with the classic. This is classic shit. So it's like, all right, if you play the old shit, if you go quarantine, you ain't here domain one, you ain't here main nothing. You got to touch in all elements. I mean, all elements. I got different personalities when I'm doing my shit. So you gotta tap into the all around

You know man Steve would be overwhelming. So, you know, I mean listen I will go to the first one You got corner key loopy then you got dollar the lipstick. That was another job And she said shout out to who came and shout out to the world boss too. World boss, your boy's boss country. That's my nigga We got another one. What about your boy? Easy everybody, you know what I want? I'm going to go. We're going to I drink shit out of it. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me ask you. Have you been drinking dog very hard in there? Oh, that's bad. That's bad.

I can caviar this shit on some nights. I can't even. I can't even caviar my knuckles in this shit, nigga. Not every night. We waiting on them jumbo strips now. Remember those good fellas in the movie? how they had them laughs and this shit. That's how we come to this story, you hear? Okay.

And you in the state or in the past? Nah, I'm in the state. I'm in Northern. We're by the airport and shit. We out here in New Jersey, you know what I'm saying? South of Northern, Northern, crazy. South of Northern, Northern, brother. This shit, you'll live.

I'm telling you this. Every TV in the state of New Jersey Twizzies you got two million motherfucking prisoners out there, but that's a lot of TV You know, I think it's gonna be told in when this shit go up. There's some different This is gonna shoot up this shit. Yes, it goes to this is already about right now No, but you know this is this space this space and baby shit my head But you know, listen, this space and baby shit right here to you. They want you out, Big O'Vell, on the water.

Oh hell no, they want you out. They can't wait. So let me ask you, let me ask you, Big O'Vell, like, just now as a picture came out of Tory Lanez and it looked really, really gruesome. And it's like, you know, I knew I had this call with you today. It made me think, like, you know, saying you've been in there for all that time. It's like we never heard of you like getting in a trouble and things like that. Have you ever faced something like what

Tory Lay's is going through? Listen, let me tell y'all this. I'm writing a book on how to become, how you can be a successful, you can do a successful 20 years. I've used prison to my advantage. Prison ain't fucked me up, I do this shit for advantage. All this time to myself to do me?

You think I ain't gonna come out no super nigga? Listen, let me tell you some shit about it. I don't give a nigga game on how to do this shit. This shit, when y'all niggas see me, you ain't gonna get anything to talk to the jail on purpose. Just to follow my lead. What do we do with that nigga there? That nigga has another type of plan.

You can hear that. You gotta go through the fire. This shit was the fire right here, but I came out the diamond. I'm coming out the diamond. Straight diamond. I ain't playing. I don't see diamonds. That nigga's a straight diamond. This ain't playing, I don't see diamond. I'm just thinking that straight diamond.

It's a fucking toothed pinery. This motherfucking golden, beautiful black, beautiful ass, talented, bastard. But I actually think of that, he ain't. You don't really know who I am, we're just chillin'. What do we, you wanna see? You know what I'm pulling, man? Listen, man, I can't wait, I can't wait, man.

I can't wait, I can't wait. I can't wait. I'm excited. And you in general, Pop? I'm in GP. I've been in GP my whole day. And I did a... Look, I ain't bragging no, but the only reason I'm polished in these areas, you know I did a bit. I was running them streets back in the day. I did a bit in New York. I did E. Joyce in New York. And I don't do my bed. I don't gangbang. You know what I'm saying?

I ain't on no, I'm not on no weird shit. I'm on man time in this shit, man. I wake up every day, I got a bunch of men. I go work out. I'm clean. I use the best shit in here. I just do me. I'm well respected I use the best shit in here, I just do me. I'm well respected, well seasoned, you know what I'm saying?

Well refined, but just a refined motherfucker. And I'm the top dog, so not saying that to be like throwing a brand, like I can do what I want. Now I'm just, I know how to move so official. There's no resistance, so even the thing that I fuck with, even the goon he niggas love, hey, my air, they fuck with me. I stay out the window, do what I'm supposed to do.

And I make plays from behind the wall. I make plays. Look, look who we got. Look at the cat. Look, make him play. Your boy make him play. Let me ask you, dude. I'll pick sixes all that.

I'll make pick sixes all that. I'm not a shit nigga. You know, do you ever have the berm in there? I'm gonna make pick sixes all that. I'm gonna make pick sixes all that. It's all shit, nigga. You know, do you ever have the perm in there? Nah, nah, my shit's ready up there. I got the little, little notch at the top with the little filly name. My shit look good, though. You got the Bob Marley shit going.

Where's the Bob Marley? Bob Marley, Bob Marley. We heard about Sexy Nick, bro. Bob Marley can't fuck with me, bro. My shit fly. Come on, miss me. I'm not a sex addict, but I'm a fucking big man. I'm a fucking big man. I'm not a bar boy. I'm a bar boy.

Come on, man. You know how they feel about me. Don't do that. Yeah, yeah. So are you paying attention to this new generation? You like to say that? I'm like, no, because it's true. What you want to do? So are you paying attention to this new generation? And if so, who's your favorite new artist?

I mean, I ain't talking about, you know, I'm talking about new new. Nah, I'm paying attention to anybody. You know, Boogie, that's a little bro. That's bro. Hey Boogie? Hey Boogie, that's bro. I love you. A boogie? A boogie, that's bro. Cash just gave me some wavy joints. I got some sexy joint. When I jump on these joints with Cash,

you know what I'm saying? I'm in the loop. I'm in the loop. Cash will be, right? I got a foot wave. Everybody waiting on me. Let me tell y'all this. Let me tell y'all this now.

And this goes for the big dog. This for the big dog. This for the A-listers. I'm not gonna see you say no name. I'm gonna just put this shit out there. I'm talking about the big motherfucking dogs. Cause we know everybody watching right now. You know how that all done.

I don't see shit. I don't see anybody see shit from shit. This motherfucker insane and clown posse. I said I'm not even got the world with this shit. So everybody. Fuck. I'm not lying. I'm just saying, I'm on a little stripper show.

Listen, man. Listen, man. I was saying the new guys. You said, you were saying A Boogie, the new guys. So, A Boogie, I fuck with Bossman, I drop some joints. I like, X got some joints. This the thing with me. I kind of like when I'm in creative mode

I'm going to studio a little tower or something. We gonna make a big we making choice We're gonna play Watch me come out with a loop. I'm gonna go that way coming out with action With the bigger girl and this goes out to all the big dogs a list is y'all don't have no max bigger bell in your catalog You're missing out. You're fucking up It's fucking up. So man, you got all your money. You got your bag You got your cattle over there when you look at your motherfucking basketball card You got all you ain't got no michael jordan in your shit. You don't have no jordan. He need bigger bell

He need Big Avel. Gee. I'm not even going to shit. What do you want people to call you, Max B or Big Avel? What do you want comfortable with? That's my name, Max Big Avel. That's my first and last name, man. Charlie, Max Big Avel Wingin. Right.

I'm on the name. Yo, I'm not going to... The nigga be like, she got some niggas to be like, yo Charlie, what up Charlie, how you doing? Like I'm going to get mad nigga be like, she got some niggas that be like, yo, Charly, what up, Charly? I mean, yo, what's up? That's like, I'm about to get mad. That's really my name, man. He must have unlimited phone times,

because he's calling back to back to back, and I like it. I like it. Now, so I was saying, I was saying, I can see the studio session between you and Kodak. I can see it in my mind. You know it's going to be wild. He likes to get wild, you know what I'm saying.

We both get wild. But at the end of the day, we both love to work. You know what I'm saying. So there's going to be some more rock and current when we come out that motherfucking boom. We're going to be there, we're going to make waves. And then these niggas been out there making a style of playing the music so long. It's just been a little bit of a mess.

And then we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're

going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be there, we're going to be so more rock and current when we come out that mother fucker boom, we gonna be in there, we gonna make waves. And then these niggas been out here making a style of brand of music so long, it's just gonna be fresh for everybody when I come out here and I really can tap into all genres and all levels. And the work that they did is impeccable. I don't even know, you know me bro, I'm out here running, I do five, six pounds in the morning,

I can run five, six pounds. So my energy is crazy. I ain't like, rake away or nothing. I ain't got no nothing going on. My shit on, shit is wavy. I'm out here. You know what I'm saying? What you see, nothing to be mad about.

Everybody do your work like a young nigga. They ain't, they ain't, they ain't. So- Rich looking girl, he out here in New York, baby. You brought this shit back. This shit out here looking like 2003. Oh yeah, so let me ask, what would be that name of that first album when you come home? We're me Joker the pearls PD7 Unspeakable things get ready for that's all I'm gonna tell y'all the first time we drop it we drop in the pearls Niggas got that you when you say about niggas keep it up. I'm telling you watch niggas Cuz you know you know how music is it's like the trendsetters everybody everybody like follow the trendsetters. Whoever make the big record, and that shit like do it.

Everybody gonna try to pattern that record. You can't pattern the ball's dawn. You can't pattern the ball's dawn. I'm un-pattern, I'm uncut, you can't cut. I'm un-duplicatable. You can't do nothing with this shit. You can't, it's impossible. Please give me a nigga that can duper king, my Sam.

We on national, please call us right now and let me, please anybody tell me they can fuck with me. I swear to God, bro, when y'all ignoring me, you will be at that first session. I'll be there. Please come, please come. Matter of fact, look, here's what we can do. Then we can do, dog.

We can do a whole fucking day where you spend with your boy Big A Van. How about that? How about that? We try to play a movie like Big A Van, and we do the show down, could you be able to come back? That's what we do, Big A Dog.

We wake up, and we pray, you know what I mean, we go for you and your movie, and we start the whole day. And you ride out, bro. And we ride the whole fuckin' day out. We do a day with the boss dog, and we end up in that lab, and boom. We make a whole movie for that day.

Thanks Big Aval, Norrie, for a day. God damn it, God damn it. Drink chas, drink chas. Yep, we go. You see what the people getting with the Big Aval? You can hinge your new one, you can get creativity, you can get ideas, you can get stuff. I'm here.

When you left, when you left, mixtapes was the hottest things in the market. Right now, it's all about streaming. You know what I mean? It's all about like, you know what I mean? Like, you know, a playlist and things like that. And then algorithms. Like, you know me um like you

think you think I'm sure I'm sure of the answer but I'm just gonna ask you anyway you think your fans are ready for you to go all digital or they been with you digital what's your answer I'm gonna tell you this to the fans that have been riding the wave from the beginning. So, whether you scream or not, this is how I feel about it. You're right, the playlist, I love it. You shouldn't be, the only reason I think it shit and I can I can afford it. I want it Music is the same way. So you got people that got a playlist. I might like to join so all that Melbourne I'm like like to join so pay the wall I'm like to join so I make my own little best of this why I gotta listen to the way I want

So with that being said all all you gotta do is click. All I do is click the music out. It's gonna do what it do. As long as it's in the masses, whether it makes slow money or fast money, it's gonna make money. It's gonna recruit, it'll get me here. Look how long my shit been running around.

They just getting up on it now. I've been a wavy nigga. I've been a wavy nigga. But, you know, you have to go back and get it. But see, one thing about my shit, it's fun going against. It's like, yo, what's up? So you wanna go back and get that match. When somebody first found out about me,

the mystique and the excitement they get from a new artist, you don't have that no more. That's the shit we used to get when we was coming up with Ice Bliss Fuel and motherfuckin' Nod or a lot of them n****as that throw mixtapes. It was like a certain feel of goose bumps. You know what I'm talking about? But niggas with lots of them niggas used to do freestyle, right?

They used to get goose bumps. They'd be waiting for this shit. Nigga, I remember when mixtapes was on 120th Street, and I used to stand right by Ali Star Ali Star table just to listen to the music and he be selling them all fucking raw cheese and kikaprees and started it don't matter what that was it don't matter what that was it don't matter my shit travels around the planet nigga I was thinking about doing my fucking album in Spanish, Chinese, fucking Portugal, Russia nigga. I think I'm, nigga, I think I'm ready to bust this shit.

I'm about to go four new heights, nigga. Y'all get ready for the big valves, all right? It's coming, November 9th. Let's go. So, are you dropping an album on November 9th as well, or is just the release, the November 9th? I'm gonna tell you this, that first night out, I'm gonna go in the school and lay that album down. It's the November 9th. Wait, but hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, I want to establish what you just said.

You said you're coming home and the first day you're making the album for your first release, on the first day, a whole album? Oh, well, listen, listen, I'm gonna come out early in the morning, right? I'm gonna go get something to eat, or make something, whatever. The full shit ain't even important.

Go and spill all the niggas with the white, get my important. Go in and spill all the money with the wife, get my shit out the sand, and see what's your ass. Oh, and then guess what? We gonna go in the light and say cheers and everything. Then we go into the fucking stew. It's still walking early. I want the daylight out there, motherfucker.

When I go in there, I'm gonna go in there and do a 20 ball off the rip. Off the fucking rip. Off the rip, my niggas. A dog? First night out? Pfft, that's one, off the fucking red. Off the red, my nigga, a dog? First night out? That's one, that's one catnip. Y'all niggas tellin' me, well, that's some shit, that's some shit

where you can see your P.I.T. fuck. Nigga, I'll come out, Max Nigga Bell gonna come out at this team game and do a 20 ball. And, it ain't no, it ain't no 20 ball, a rusty 20 ball. That nigga know what the fuck he's doing. He's a musical savant. That nigga's Wendy.

Andy, that nigga. He really live that shit he talking about. He really that nigga. He really that nigga. He ain't lying though. Andy, that nigga. Yeah, so yeah, that's how I'm on my nigga. That whole thing laid out.

So let me ask you, we got the 20 ball. We know you're going to do that. But who's the first feature that you will reach out to? You know what? I ain't reaching out to nobody. I'm not in the position to reach out to nobody. I'm going to fall back and play the game. I'm going to go in there and work. And look, I'm going to tell y'all niggas this.

All y'all got to do is come to, come walk in my session. Come to New York, come walk in my shit, right? I should plus two by the way. Come to New York, walk in in my shit, right? I should plus two by the way. Come to New York, walk in my shit, and come in my session, and come listen to my shit. And watch me dope your ass up. And whoever coming in, they gon' come out, we gon' come out with a package.

I don't give a fuck who walking in that got some substance that ain't useful. We coming out with a package, all right? All right. Like, I wanted to just ask you, how is it being from, like, Cam and Big L, the same block as them? Cam from the block, Big Cam from the same building,

L from the block, he from 39, McGruff from the block,. L from the block, he from 39. McGruff from the block. Wow. And Becker from the block. Wow. We know the league that grew up. Dre Honey called Dre Honey six rest a piece from 40. May's sister, I know her, Stacey.

I know, listen, we all from over there. Grease from you, about five minutes walk down, 120, 300. We all grew up around each other, but we all know each other. We all had some type of sparkle or a drip from that area. That's why so many niggas that came out that same area, that whole area is just a way about it.

It got an aura and everybody feel like they important this shit coming up. You know what I'm saying? My mom's always mean to feel important. Like you ain't gotta, you see a star or somebody famous, you know, we don't get excited, less is more. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes I might act like I don't even know a motherfucker.

Like, what's your name again? It's Walden Freeman, so why I should be like, Walden Freeman? What the fuck you talking about? That nigga 90 years old. Hey, man, don't fuckin' walkin' Freemason. That's fake, what is it? She said shit like that, boy.

So let's just walk. So let's just walk, man, yeah. We famous around here, 40 of us, like legends everywhere. Where motherfuckers comin' out that block. Even the Rucker used to be over there before they moved to 50-50. That Rucker, I know all that was over there.

That block, we go up on that shit, it's like a Hall of Fame block. And everybody over there was kind of like starved and they all write hood favors before they blew up the shit. But Mace was definitely the first nigga we watched. When Puff was bringing that nigga through the block with the three in the corners and the suburban, he playing that joint with him and we like, yo, what the fuck going on around? So this is the first nigga I saw before I went to prison on my first day and I saw mix.

Cam Nutter was on, it was mix. I went to jail, came back, and then I started seeing Cam and all them niggas in the double XLs and all that. I'm looking at the magazine, the president. No, I'm way up north in New York. So I'm like, this look like, oh, this cam. I'm like, this pull.

I'm like, I know all these niggas. Oh, I'm gonna get right in this business now. Oh, so you saw them in the source. You saw them in the source first. That was the thing that sparked you? Go ahead, continue. I saw them. I heard them and I was a fan. I'm like, oh, fuck, I'm like, you can't do this shit. You know, I follow him. Okay, continue. to really watch the news. I see my man Bruno in the fucking magazine on Sting.

And I'm like, yeah, how the fuck can I, you know, I've been going away, I don't even know how to reach these niggas, these niggas is gone. Man, I say, you know what, I'm gonna stand on this block every day for a week till I see Bruno, I guarantee. I saw that nigga the third day out. We set the meeting up, I had the demo ready, we called the meeting with Jim.

I was doing Jim's album in two days. That shit was wrapped up in two weeks. By May we was on MTV, I was just in prison in January by May I was on MTV, I was in Miami, I had to finish. I mean, my life changed in one fucking day, but that shit is wild. I seen it. you have one minute remaining Cool cool shit we stay here we here Right, you know, I'm asking bigger bell on the phone. Yeah Yo, got Max Bigavelle on the phone, yo.

I'm back, baby. Yup. Um, the way you just described that, you said, you know, your life changed in a day. I like, um, I see, I heard the happiness in you saying that. Hell yeah, because, you know, I'm a little that. I had forever. So damn, for eight years, I had forever. Before I gave my child back. That shit was kinda traumatizing too, but oh.

What you ask me again, I forgot. What you get? No, I said, I said, like, I said, because like before the phone had hung up, you was saying like, yo bro, I did this, we did that. And then my life changed in one day. And I just heard the happiness in your voice. You know what I'm saying?

Oh yeah, I got you. So, like, that. Nah, cause that shit was like a major accomplishment for me. The link up with, even though we had our little fall outs or whatever in the beginning, that shit was just, it was just beautiful. You know how that shit go, bro, just traveling. I think I was just in prison.

So now going to nice hotels and eating up, all that shit was, it was new. It was fun, bro, you know what I'm saying? So it was new and it was better than being in prison. And it felt like I was like trying to really make something for myself, so I kinda had like a proud, you know, I was like making myself proud. My mom and all them things was like trying to really make something for myself. So I kind of had like a proud, you know, I was like making myself proud. My mom and all them things was like proud of me.

You know, my family, nobody really never did shit like me. So this kind of was like, I was kind of looking at this as an opportunity, like, yo, break some type of generation curse. Maybe I'm like the first of a type of con or something that's supposed to set something in place for my people

for like 200 years and shit like that. That's kinda how I've been thinking. That's how I've been thinking far ago with my thought. I'll be thinking like a whole fucking 10 years from now. And like, you know, when did this shit work? Like, why not me? Why can't it work for me? So hell yeah, that shit was happy, bro.

I was happy, bro. I never been that happy. Especially after I came home. When I came on parole, I really was happy. I ain't had no parole, none of that shit. I was running around this shit like a wild man. That's what we meant. Yeah.

But hold on, hold on. So let me just ask you. Let me just ask you, right? Because like, I don't want to ask, I don't want to ask, but like, the thing about it is, if you had anything to do over right like because I could hear you describing the early days And you getting you know um you know I remember my days You know I'm saying but I'm asking you right like if you could do anything over from them early days

That leads you up and I'm not talking about the crimes not the crime I'm not talking about the crime. I'm talking about music wise if you you could do anything over that you feel you could do better, what would it be? I felt like when I was out on bail, a lot of music got rushed because I was like out on bail. So it was like, it felt like even like my last day. So I was like rushing the being that I was just, I was just doing what came to mind.

And if I could take anything back, a lot of them songs that they was rushed, people love these songs. But to me, when I sit back and listen to my catalog, which I don't even do it no more, because I'm already, I already built my new joint. So I'm on my new joint. I don't even listen to the old joint no more.

It's just the growth and the difference and the master ship of my craft and how serious I take it. When you hear it, you're gonna see like, yo, this nigga got some different type of sounds going on. I'm talking about beats, melody, it's not loud. You know, nigga, you hear a nigga music, that shit be too loud. A lot of these niggas is told that

they be screaming on that shit. Niggas is loud. All that shit playing, this is all scientific shit with this shit I'm coming. I'm talking about an easy, smooth, balanced, sexy, sexy beat. Who said we better than people? Come on, my nigga.

This shit never. This game is lame, bud. This is how we ease this. You about to harvest crops that I planted in this shit back in old times. Some motherfucking crazy shit, sweet. I Right So that's been no nice. No, I'm on my grind, man. I'm working, man. I'm working, man. It's good, though, man. We're F'ing that. We're F'ing that. We're F'ing that.

We're F'ing that. We're F'ing that. We're F'ing that. We're F'ing that. We're F'ing that. We're F'ing that. We're F'ing that. We're F'ing that.

We're F'ing that. We're F'ing that. We're F'ing that. We're F'ing that. We're F'ing that. We're F'ing that. We're F'ing that. We're F'ing that. We're F'ing that. We're F'ing that. We're F'ing that. We've got the, shout to the big fella. We're going to EFF, man.

Happy birthday, man. Listen, man, we appreciate a lot what you bring to this shit. We here, I can't wait to meet you. We gonna go up there, we gonna sip champagne, bro. That's right. We gonna sip champagne.

That's right. We gonna sip champagne like we won a fucking championship up in that country. I'm on the way. A day with the Big Avel. When we finish, we end up in Miami up in the studio. That's gonna be the finish. Absolutely. So let me ask you, are you aiming to be independent or you want to get that check from a label? I mean, I just want it to make sense, but I just want to be able to have free creative life, you know what I'm saying? And I want it to make sense.

I've been going for a while. I just want to, my life is going to be independent. I'm not going to be able to do anything else. I'm just going to be able to do what I want to do. I'm just going to be able to do what I want to do. I'm just going to be able to do what I want to do. I'm just going to be able to do what I want to do. I'm just going to be able to do what I want to do.

I'm just going to be able to do what I want to do. I'm just going to be able to do what I want to do. I'm just going to be able to do what I want to do. I'm just going to be able to do what I want to do. I'm just going to be able to do what I want to do. I'm just going to be able to do what I want to do. I'm just going to be able to do what I want to do. I'm just going to be able to do what I want to do.

I'm just going to be able to do what I want to do. I'm just going to be able to do what I want to do. I'm just going to be able to do what I want to do. I'm just going to be able to have free creative life. You know what I'm saying? And I wanted to make sense. I've been going for a while. I just wanna earn my T-ball. I want my shit now. I know where I'm at the point now where my work now is like, yo, you gotta be talented for that other shit before.

You know, we knew we was getting there. We was happy to be there. Don't nothing get me excited now, but a super duper bag. And I don't think, I want money, I want that real shit. I want that big shit. I ain't thinking about no little shit, you heard? I want some other shit.

I want some other shit, I ain't even going to that. So something that I feel was good for the culture, was good for hip hop, and was also good for the city is to see French Montana and Jim Jones squash it. Is that something that you co-signed? Yeah, absolutely. Shout out to the person. Shout out to the Don Martino shout out to the Don Martin.

What's up, brother? He working. You already know I see you in the back here. Yeah, French called me when he did the joint. Let me know, you know, that's bro. He gon' definitely let me know what he did. He didn't want me to hear about the song or whatever on some, or do something else or whatever.

I had an album already, but nah, it was all love. I'm like, at this point, point you know shit, business is business. Me and Bro Personal Affairs shouldn't be able to stop your business. I'm like that shit was like mad years ago. You know we was running around y'all. We was entertaining, that's what we did. Right.

Especially. Jim said a bunch of hard shit about me. We all said hard shit about each other, okay. That nigga just, damn they'll wish me dead, all say all shit about each other, okay? That nigga just, them now wish me dead, all type of shit. It's all good. I got you, man. It's love, man.

I want to start over. I'm a new man. I'm a married man. I got kids. I got four kids. Like, I'm on a whole different time right now. I'm out here to get my money and ride out in the sunset with this shit.

It's in there for me though, I'ma tell you that. So that's the goal. Cause that was something I was trying to allude to earlier when I was like, is there anything that you regret? And I'ma just, so I just kind of like ask you, because I got to see you and Jim like together, like, and I always thought it was all love. Do you regret that y'all had like misunderstandings?

Nah, I don't regret nothing, no. For me to have regrets is like the question of my path. I'm not, I don't even question the path. I don't, I'm right where God want me to be, my nigga like right where I'm at. I'm good. I ain't on my time, I'm on his time. So whatever happens, that's what was supposed to happen

for us to get to this point right there. So my thing is, we gonna learn from that. And you know, we was young, bro. Anybody was out here, anybody did wild shit. Ain't nobody motherfucking perfect, nigga. Nigga, we all crazy. We all did crazy shit, my nigga. But at the end of the day, we all grow.

We all become men. We all got responsibilities. It's time to elevate, it's time to build, and I'm saying it's time to get ready to pass this shit down to the young men, the young men as well. We could be at our time. So you know, this whole opportunity I get this one last ride, the way I'm gonna give it to y'all is I'm gonna just do what I do best, music and meaning. And I'm gonna just give y'all great work and consistency and entertainment.

And y'all niggas don't eat this shit. Y'all broads don't eat it up. Y'all don't love it. Because it's different. It's Max Biggleville. I ain't changing the fucking beat. I ain't changing the beat. I got this shit ready.

What happens if you come home and what would a Jim Jones, Max B record sound like if y'all could get a chance, which I wish, I wish y'all could get a chance to put this to the past. What would a Jim Jones, Max B record sound like together? Y'all together. Listen, I'm gonna tell you this. I don't want nobody taking this the wrong way.

Before Bro even get all my new kind of staff, you gotta be around me. You gotta let me coach you. You can't just think you can come jump on my shit. It's too complicated. You're not gonna sound like nothing. I'm gonna kill you on this shit. It's too complicated. You're not gonna sound like nothing. I'm gonna kill you on this shit. So you might hear a bunch of, if some shit like that happen, then press a button, this shit's gonna be flying around the world, they'll start cutting niggas' verses off. You ain't gonna end up with my hook in my verse? That's how that shit gonna

go, it's gonna be live silent. So if me and Jim go on a stoop, we gotta go on a stoop and we gotta rebuild. We gotta, it gotta be like a, because when we first did our shit, there was a chemistry there, you know what I'm saying? He needed a spark. Jim Nice, he just needed a spark. He needed like some little inspiration. He one of them guys like,

he's not gonna create all the joints from the top. But he had some shit created, but he needs that point man in there. So when he had me and Stack Buns in there, my nigga, it was record, there was no record that couldn't be done. You got me in there, I'm in that shit from six, seven in the morning,

loading up new beats, and throwing it from scratch, and throwing hooks on them shit, getting everybody looping. We doing four, five of them joints a night, consistently for like two years straight. All right. So I'ma switch it up a little bit. You're in the process to all that.

Okay. He had like, Guy with it, Summer, he had Hustlers, Palm, American Gang, stuff. I was doing Domain, we did, we did, we fly high, all that shit, brother, like all that. A lot of shit came out of that, stupid.

Go ahead, money in my bag, you know what I mean? Yeah, so- We need a movie. We need a movie, yeah. Right. So let me ask you, right, because the Supreme collab obviously happened while you was in jail.

How did that happen? Supreme reached out to you, and how did they reach out to you? How did that come about? They reached out to my man Black, you know. They was coming like, to my understanding, they was a fad, they was going out of business or whatever. So the way they hit me, they was like, yo, we really want you on this project.

It's kind of like a hit or miss. At this point, I didn't know what the fuck was going on. I'm like, I want my old picture from a cheese server. I was like, all right. So we did the joint form, me and Black didn't know what the fuck was going on. I want my old picture from a cheese sir. I So we did the joint form, you know, we're black didn't do we did it ourselves we even go to nobody But all that what I thought was prices out there Was worth way more than that whole fucking deal with the fact that the big bull digger wore the shit at the motherfucker press conference. What the fuck is that?

How much you think he was a charged Pepsi to wear a fucking t-shirt up there, my nigga? Come on, my nigga. Let's keep it up up. Let's call the spade the spade. So at the end of the day, here you go again, big of hell, making plays from behind the wall. Think about that play, my nigga. That's what I'm talking about. Hey, here you go again, think of them. Making plays from behind the wall.

Think about that play, my nigga. That's the oil promotion, my nigga. You got the maximize promotion and marketing for pennies on the dollar. I actually got 10. And he did the shit on the love. Well. That's fucking love.

So I called it the Supreme Devil's Sweetie. It worked out either way. Well... You have one minute remaining. We're gonna do hangover three. I'm gonna dress up as the way we joke and we're gonna go through that. You have one minute remaining. I got another idea. That's all I do by the way. I got this pop up in my head all day. I gotta walk around with a journal just to write shit down. It's crazy. My brain is a fucking money machine.

Yeah, it's money. All right, all right. Well, there's nothing more. Nah, man, this is. I ain't even talking about this. I'll miss you, man. I know you're sitting well. I'll let you speak in a little bit. All right, all right. Well, it was nothing, though. No, man, this is... Hey, bro, I think I don't... I'll tell you, man, I know this shit is wet. I'll take this nigga in. No, no, man.

The people ain't hear from you in a long time. The people ain't hear from you, you know what I mean? So, word. So you calling back or you go... Nah, we hear as long as you want. I'm here as long as you want. You can fuck me, nigga, whatever you want. Shit, come on.

I want you, whatever you want. Shit, come on. Hold on, hold on. Okay, I could. Yeah, come on. I'm with you, whatever, fuck. Shit, come on. Hold on, hold on. Okay, I cool. Yeah, I'll stay right here if you gotta call back. Yep, I gotta stay right here. All right. Hey, you know.

Yeah, I'm here. You know, for me to come out and conform to any other staff, other than my own shit, it'd be a travesty. Right. You know that, right? Of course, of course. Niggas know I ain't funny. to any other staff over in my old shit would be the Travis team. You know that, right? Of course, of course. Niggas know I ain't funny. You know I'm way more dramatic than that.

Only niggas that don't know me think I'd do some shit like that. You know I'm gonna have a melodramatic finish coming out of this motherfucker. All right. So let me ask you, do you follow podcasts? I know, but besides Drink Champs, do you follow podcasts? I know, but besides Drink Chance, do you follow podcasts in there?

And if so, what is the podcast you listen to? Well, let me see. I know Gillian got a joint, you can't be, I know who got joints, we don't really see too many podcasts. The joints I watch, it's sports. The only joint that was coming on, you had, I think Draymaw Green's joint,

this shit come on right now, I don't wanna get off this shit though. I don't fuck with shit. I don't even think I've never seen that shit. Shadysaw shit got booted off for some reason. I think he got caught up with shit down to this shit, good boy. Oh, the rest of this shit be like sports joint,

but this shit moving away, this money. No, no, no, no, not me, not me, not me. But hold on, let me ask you, let me ask you. Have you seen Fat Joe and Jada Kisses' podcast? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I ain't seen, I ain't seen, they got one together? Yeah, they got one together. Have you seen it?

Have you seen it is what it is? I seen, I seen Kam Joy, I got some of them, yeah, I did not know Kam and them joints. I ain't seen Kizz joint and Joe, but I think I seen a piece of it with Kizz little man or something was on there. I seen a little, I seen some pieces, I'ma wear, I'ma wear.

Well, I understand, I see everybody doing the podcast, but I got, I just, we'll talk about that when we get there. I don't even want to put that on the wave. Hold on, I gotta ask though. I gotta ask because that's the new wave. That's the new wave. Will, will, will, will there be a wavecast? Hey, well listen, my podcast,

my shit gonna be like the David Chappelle show. That shit. Listen bro, do my nigga. I like a lot of joints. I'm doing everything. I'm watching everything going on. Everything I'm doing at this stage, they got something different.

But it's the same thing. It's just something different. I'm adding something different. I got something way different on every level. I'm just different. That's how I do anything I come into business with or come in and entertain, it gotta be different. If it's here, I like something or I'm not gonna fuck with it.

I only want, nah, that shit gotta be still different. But my shit, yes, look out for the part, yeah. This shit's gonna be bargy, too. Very bargy. Very bargy. Okay. So I gotta ask, too, you got Jar Monopoly on the phone, you know Jar Monopoly is infamous and famous for managing very famous artists.

Will Max Bigavelle get on her track with Kanye West? I love Kai and what I love. You already know one man easy getting the boot. And you know, easy pride himself on his genius. So when he get around a nigga like me, he gonna be so like, yo, this nigga fire because I'm in my own bag. The moment not too big for bigger bad. If I get around easy, he got to step his shit up. My nigga step his shit up, bro. Y'all really have to step gotta step this shit up, my nigga. I'm telling you, he gotta step this shit up, bro. Y'all really have to step y'all shit up around me.

My shit is dead. So with that being said, y'all gotta do live sessions with me. Don't think I could email y'all some shit and y'all can get it off like that. Y'all gotta watch me. I gotta shower 18 niggas. I gotta get y'all niggas in game.

So we gotta set the footage up. We gotta get the footage. You want to do the feature, you want to take notice right now, you're going to get footage. We get footage for the prediction on the back end. It's all going to come together. Ain't nothing coming out without the cameras. We're going to wave it up and put together the big movie. So we got to see the cameras with Biggie Bell, then we on professional time. All right? We get the last edit, so don't pay it no mind. They there for me. What? They there for me. So that's basically a yes. The world could be expecting a Max V, Kanye West record.

Yes, yes, yes. Okay. I think that's going to happen kind of like after this reality. I don't think there's going to be no resistance on that because I f*** with brother. I think I did a drop on the life of father. Oh wow. Anyhow, I'm going to be a father. I'm going to be a father.

I'm going to be a father. I'm going to be a father. I'm going to be a father. I'm going to be a father. I'm going to be a father. I'm going to be a father. I'm going to be a father. I'm going to be a father.

I'm going to be a father. I'm going to be a father. I'm going to be a father. I'm going to be a father. I'm going to be a father. I'm going to be a reality. I don't think there's gonna be no resistance on that, cause I fuck with brother. I think I did a drop on the Life of Father. Oh, wow. And he hooked me up, something easy, man. That nigga said be like $6,500 for that drop back,

back in like 16, 17. That's a, that's a play. Let me tell you something, for a nigga what, for a nigga that ain't get that drop back in 75 yet, $6,500 is a great play for a nigga that's 75, convicted fella. That's a great play for a nigga who got 75. Come pick your fella, that's a great play. Fuck with you boy. And you got some good promotions.

You got on that album like, Pauly O'May, The Girl Drop, boom, Mr. Lana, man. Playin', what? Playin' on. Another thing that I feel like you invented is like the hood melodies, the hood like singing but not singing.

And since you been gone, I've been seeing a lot of people trying to duplicate that type of style. Do you think that's something that when you come home, you're going to still be doing like, you know what I'm talking about with the melodies, like, you know what I mean? I'm the master of melodies.

You know, I got to give you the melody because that's where the music at. Right. So you got niggas doing it, but... I think everybody use chemical. They use chemical it, but everybody use chemical. They use chemical. I don't use chemical. I got raw voice, my nigga, raw voice.

No, no rebirth chemical, no computer program, no auto tune in the voice. I got a beautiful, rad speech, sexy voice. My shit last long, it's forever. It's not loud, it's not tone deaf. So I don't need no respect. Yeah, I'm singing to the bitches till I die, my nigga, that's what I do.

Thanks, Big Avel. Way D Daddy, the Way Daddy. Right. That's me. Yep, right. You know I'm on my shit, I wouldn't be dead. I don't think they did this shit. That's what they love, my nigga, I gotta,

wait till you see me, this my nigga. It's your own camera, they shoot our own footage, you gonna need your own shit with us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They make the, that thing we spent together, they gonna give us a bag for that. No problem.

Yeah, we want that for us. No problem. So are you in like a medium? What are you in, a max? What is it considered? You got niggas that ain't go on, them two ladies go to malls, so it's a mix up. You just gotta, look, you gotta know your lane, you gotta stay on man time, I'm on man time. You know what I'm saying? I don't fuck with niggas, I got my own shit,

I got my own thing, and I stand on business. God said, if you roll through that, what, with that, you good, I ain't checking in. I ain't on no, no, uh, no fiend out, fiend, Owen, right around Owen checking in PC. Hell no, my reputation in this motherfucking facility is just decadent. I had my date, I ain't got locked up and shit.

I been there, I ain't boxed out this motherfucker. I been there in prison in New Jersey every day. I had my date, I was the way I wanted to be, and I ain't gonna lie. But I wasn't a violent nigga. I got locked up for that was the way I was born, I ain't gonna lie. But I wasn't a violent nigga, I got locked up for like weed and shit like that, dirty yarn and shit like that.

I wasn't no, I ain't fight the police, I didn't have no fights this big. I moved right here, I moved to Carly, my nigga. That's all this shit is about, moving to Carly, sticking to your regiment, staying out the way, and making yourself better, my nigga. Doing anything you can to be better, staying out the way, and making yourself better, my nigga. Doing anything you can to be better, working out, training, eating good,

and just doing your fucking burpees, my nigga. Going to see your lady, you know what I'm saying? You up here, shit, whatever you want to, jerk off, whatever makes you feel, you know what I'm saying? And bring it to that next level, you got the time to do that here. So all this shit is about elevation. If you can't elevate this shit, you out the way.

You in the fucking way, you out the way. You in the fucking way. You in the way. So, let me ask you, right? God comes to you, says, Mac Bigavelle, you gotta save humanity. So, buy this one song, and I'm gonna give you one producer and one artist, and you gotta go in the studio with them,

and this record, whatever this record turns out to be, it's gonna save the world. Who is Max Bigavelle calling for, as the producer, and who are you calling for the feature? Is this for humanity? To save, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. To save everybody. Ha ha ha.

All right, everybody, I, yeah, to save everybody. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. All right, let me break this down. I don't want to forget my train of thought before I answer this question. I really got my, I don't want niggas to take no byes. So let me just give you an example. I was playing something for somebody, right?

The thing was listening to that shit first, you know, and I was getting some bad reviews on the producer and whatever, you know, he don't got it no more, booboo. I heard, I heard, I heard that. So I played the music for him last, because I didn't want him to get in the train. And he was like, yo, what the fuck is that? For a long story short, I told him all the producer words.

You know what the producer was? Yeah. My ace ball told me, damn motherfucking police. Wow. Let me tell you this, let me tell you this one. Let me tell you why I say that on this platform right now. Because if I had to pick a nigga who is equally as talented as me and his field, it's that nigga.

That's why we go so good. And this is another thing I ask myself, before I do any record, any time I do a record, when I listen to a beat, I ask myself, yo, if I had one beat left in the world to listen to, can I listen to this shit for the rest of my life? Mm, mm. I need a bit of an answer to that question right then and there listening to that track.

And Greece makes those tracks, my nigga. Period. Alright? Wow. Ain't nobody else gonna make me. Ain't nobody gonna make me. Now I'm not saying it can't happen because I'm still going out to work. I've had to work with everybody. But in my history of work and the producers I've had to work with everybody. But in my history of work, in the producers I've worked with, and the only, like, most of the producers I got now, I fuck with these my niggas from back in the day.

But this one I'm gonna fuck the game up because, y'all, it's my music. So it's not new music, it's just my music. So it's gonna go. It's fresh. But Grease, bro, Grease got a nigga, bro. Grease underrated, he underrated, underappreciated. He got a bad rep because he had the best business practices

or whatever in the game. But if you look at the work, if you look at the niggas he got behind, action, all that, he made like these legendary niggas. got behind, action, all that, he, me, like, these are legendary niggas, like, that nigga, that nigga Grease is legendary, but, so, fuck what they talkin' about. I was up there when you gave him those flowers. That's right. That's right. Alright, so, so we established...

You got it, you got it, you got it, you got it. We established... You asked the nigga, like, yo, do you think Matt could, you know, function in this joint? He said, yeah, with me. And I'm answering the question with, I agree. Yep, I respect that. So you named the producer, but named the one artist. Like remember, God is asking you, this record's going to change the world.

I need a feature? Yeah, you need a feature. I need a feature? Yep. Damn. Anybody, Dead or Alive, anybody, Dead or Alive. Dead or Alive? Yeah. Oh, you know I got going to the store.

I knew you was gonna, I should've said Dead or Alive. I knew you. My nigga, what? Dead or Alive? Okay. Nigga, I can't park out that great, alright, this nigga, this nigga's serious. Like, he's like, I'm not gonna let you down. I'm not gonna let you down.

I'm not gonna let you down. I'm not gonna let you down. I'm not gonna let you down. I'm not gonna let you down. I'm not gonna let you down. I'm not gonna let you down. I'm not gonna let you down. I'm not gonna let you down. I'm not gonna who I like, listen to and like,

all right, this nigga's serious. Like he was like my top dog, him, or fucking Nas, Jay, Big, and I know everybody say that, then I start going into like, Faze, Snoop Dogg was up there too, that nigga changed my life. When he dropped that fucking gin and juice, I started drinking, smoking weed, soon as that nigga dropped that motherfucker out,

I was like, soon as that nigga dropped that gin and juice, I started drinking, nigga, I went to the liquor store, right, sent the motherfucker home, bummin' in the Bobby's Tangerine, right, so I drank the Tangerine. I'm like, this shit ain't doin' nothin', I ain't thinkin' it's doin' nothin'. Man, I woke up in the motherfuckers snow on the corner

somewhere, passed the fuck out of the corner by an ice cold. This nigga's waking me up like, yo, yo, yo, get in the blood, get up. I'm probably about 50, 14 when that shit came. That shit was stupid, I mean, fuck them. Stop the snooze, shut it off. Okay, so now, just alive, just alive. If God asks you for a feature, just alive, not dead.

Who would that feature be? A person that's alive right now? Right now. Yep. It gotta be some like epic. It gotta be like, it's probably gonna, I'm gonna keep it real, but it's probably gonna be like, a nigga ain't never do nothing with me.

It's gotta be like a drink. It's gotta be like a future. You have one minute remaining. Jermiah, he like really got a really epic catalog that's really lit, and we don't have no music together, but they were just on fire. And we seen each other during the calls, we just never got a chance to, but we, and there's some respect, like when we just go in the studio and make it rain,

you know what I'm saying? Gotta be like smiley. I probably, I probably fuck around going in with Travis Scott, tell me Travis Scott, nigga. Hit me up, nigga. Let's go do a record, nigga. Let's do an album, nigga, album.

Fuck with your boy, now. Here we go. All right, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we got, we got, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah it. If you need me, just send word about it. I got you.

So we got to get off now or we can finish this one up? I said we got like two minutes. If you want clothes out, what's up? If you want clothes out, I'm going to shout bro out. Yo, Poochette, that's my quarter, and I love you. Yo, kick your fucking feet up, nigga. Five months, I'm on the way, and I'm going to drop three, kick three, I don't know, nigga.

We getting you out, nigga. All right, all right, my bro. Yo, you be safe in there. I don't know what you mean. Nah, nah, yeah you be safe in there Now that was perfect. Yep, you be safe in there be waiting for you November night Right I'm gonna do that day thing. That shit gonna be waiting. I got a plan. I'm gonna lay it all out. I'm gonna write a script the whole day out for it. We organic with the content, but I'm gonna script the day. You're gonna have a whole item of everything. And we just gonna just chill out.

We're fucking around, going to great adventures and some wild shit. Or on some wild shit. I'm on the WrestleMania next year too. We gonna be lit. I'm all over this motherfucker. Cool baby shit. From your boy.

Oh, I love my brother. You be safe, man. One love, my brother. Thank you. Thank you, bro. I love you. Peace. Cool baby shit from your boy. Oh, I love my brother. You be safe, man. One love, my brother. Thank you. Thank you, bro. I love you. Peace out. Be good.

I talk to you soon. I'll see you out November. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Peace. Drink Champs is a Drink Champs LLC production,

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