Drink Champs - Episode 466 w/ ROC Solid (Part 2)

Episode Date: August 15, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the one and only, Memphis Bleek! In this episode we turned the energy all the way up, taking fans even deeper into the un...told stories and legendary moments that built one of hip hop’s most iconic dynasties. Memphis Bleek joins us sharing stories from his ROC Solid podcast. This convo picks up right where Part 1 left off—raw, unfiltered, and heavy with history. From late-night studio sessions to million-dollar deals, the crew dives into the grind, the glory, and the wild behind-the-scenes moments that shaped Roc-A-Fella Records. There’s laughter over tour stories, wisdom in business lessons, and plenty of drinks in true Drink Champs fashion. Old memories spark new debates, as friendships, rivalries, and game-changing collaborations all get revisited with honesty and humor. Fans get a rare seat at the table as the conversation flows between music, loyalty, and legacy—showing how the Roc’s influence still resonates in today’s culture. With unfiltered banter, legendary guests, and that signature Drink Champs energy, Part 2 isn’t just a continuation—it’s a celebration of a movement that changed hip hop forever. This is history, told by the people who lived it, and the vibe is nothing short of legendary. Make some noise for ROC Solid - Memphis Bleek! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 Listen to Part 1 of this episode exclusively at ROC Solid Podcast!  https://omny.fm/shows/roc-solid/roc-solid-part-x-dc-collab-part-1   Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow: Drink Champs https://www.drinkchamps.com https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps   DJ EFN  https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions   N.O.R.E.  https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:21 generic shit. We're going to talk about personal shit. We're going to talk about overall shit. We're gonna get to the business. In case you don't know what we're talking about. You're talking about the one, only.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Mim Blink in the building. You know, yeah, yeah. It's not men's blink. It's rock solid today. Yeah, right. Solid in there. Just like, yeah. This fucking shit smells like straight alcohol.
Starting point is 00:03:43 The tablecloth? Yeah, the tablecloth. You could get drunk by just like. I don't think this has ever been washed. Oh, yeah. It's the first time I'm kind of like sitting here without alcohol. This is a nasty-ass tablehouse. And I'm like, I'm smelling tequila.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I'm smelling. And I bet you'd still be sleeping with this shit. I'm smelling it. He'd be cut in another. I'm smelling every alcohol. Like, before any alcohol is bust out, I can smell it on the table. But look for sure. What is that?
Starting point is 00:04:09 What is that? Which one? These clear bottles. This one or this one? Yeah, all bring it down. This is the pit bull vodka, voly vodka. Shout out to them. This is Mama Hwana.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Shout out to Mama Hanna King. It's not made in Kendall. According to Norrie It ain't my mom How do we pronounce Sunny, how do we pronounce the rum? I don't want to mispronounce it St. Severe?
Starting point is 00:04:33 Who's his dad? This is, uh, it's White Cliff's sister, Milky, right? Who? White Cliff's sister? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, that's it.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Look Haitian. And this is one of the last, if only Haitian on rums, right? This is one of the only Haitian of rums, not the Babakou got bought out. Oh, so that's rum? That's Haitian and rum. Not, not, not, not, not Baba Koo, it's something different.
Starting point is 00:04:57 No, the famous one, no, the famous one's Bobakou, but. Babakou's not rum, though. Yes, according to Sunny, though, that they got bought out. We can't listen to Sonny. He's not a real Haitian. Let's just be clear. We, we call on a part-type nation? We've seen him in a hate-in-black day.
Starting point is 00:05:09 You know, hold on a hate the Black Day. Haiti can't, yo, Sonny, you can't be keeping in 80 or Haiti, dog. He got to keep it 100. You can't Haiti, Haiti, Haiti. You can't Haiti, Haiti. Word up. So, Bleak, let me ask, they just fired Shannon Sharp, man, on ESPN. I seen that coming, though, Paul.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Yeah, come on, man. He did pay the girl off? Why? Why are they firing? I'm not a... Because, man, when you... He should have went to O-T-F and not went to O-F. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:44 He should have hollied out of that O-T-F and not O-F. He went to only fans. He should have went to the only family. I wasn't catching on. You know what I'm saying? He should have hired to holl of. He should have... of that them niggins in the shop.
Starting point is 00:05:55 I was like, yeah, did you think you're gonna go to our future? That's not the ashtray, right? That's not the ass chair. Nah, man, it's duce. Baby. Come on.
Starting point is 00:06:01 No, man. That's right. Come on, man. We just started. We didn't get that yet. We just started, dog. It might get there, though.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Oh, so he's so, so, so. He paid the off, man. 23. He gave her that M jet. 23 and me or? 23 and her. 23 and her? Yeah, 23 and her.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Really? Yeah, she retired. She put out a post, yeah. She retired from O.F. Now she's OTF. That was OTF, though? Only the family. Only the family.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Yeah, yeah. Shout out dirt, free dirt. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Also, we just got news. What's my man? Gilbert Arenas, they locked them up for playing poker in his own house.
Starting point is 00:06:44 How is that possible? Because that's my hell, bro. It's us. We black. Anything we do is illegal. That's illegal playing poker and you're on this. It's money.
Starting point is 00:06:53 They'll find a way They're calling money laundering Why? Does it depend on how much money it is? And you're playing a dollar game A C-law in my house They ain't coming to my career, all right? Legally in America,
Starting point is 00:07:05 you're not even supposed to walk around With more than $10,000 cash on you Without a bankruptcy or a bank statement, yeah Well, I know in New York They're taking that brand, you better come with How you got it Gambling laws are serious Yeah
Starting point is 00:07:21 But you can break gambling laws in your own Chris? Yeah. Yeah. If you're doing a public game or a game where there's a certain amount of people you got to remember. The mob invented gambling my nigga and then we black. It's a racket. We, shit, they have to us. Anything we do is a gamble.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Shit. I mean, remember, the mob kind of invented the music industry too. Yeah? So. Everything they did. They invented a lot of shit we enjoy, man. You know what I mean? Strippers. Casino. Come on. You put the strippers, though. No, they bought the night like, bro. They invented the stripers.
Starting point is 00:07:52 They invented the street. Miami distributors. No, Miami perfected the strippers. You come to Miami,
Starting point is 00:07:59 you feel like you fucking OBGYN out this bitch. When you come with all he's over here? Yo, chill.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Yo. But words, shit bad out there. These niggas is getting crazy with it right now. But yeah, locking the nigger
Starting point is 00:08:18 for gambling in his house seemed like that's wrong. Yeah, that seemed like it's wrong. But you're saying and someone definitely snitched.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Somebody have a body cam and everything, right? Somebody probably lost money and snitched. Yeah, because you're going to the man crib to get him and he's a public figure. Someone, they have to have inside. Yeah, right? But it must have been a lot of money flowing through there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I've been to some lot of money gambling games. They ain't got nobody ain't snitch on us, man. Shout out to the guts games we used to have. You hear it, Hove. I'm calling guts every time. That shit, that nigger was a bully in the guts. He was arrested with five others and suspected of high-level. Yeah, they had an Israeli gang member with them, too.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I even know Israel had gangs. Probably the Israeli mob, yeah. Niggas is gang gang, gang in everywhere. Everybody got a mob. No, they ain't say mob. They say gang. So that means they listen to hip-hop. They tie rags around their head.
Starting point is 00:09:16 They're different. The mob wear suits. No, they eat elegant shit. Gang? They're outside. They ghosts riding the whip. Right, right, right. Israel, I might got to go out there
Starting point is 00:09:27 to see what gag life hitting for Israel. He'd be surprised. They call it an Israel crime figure. Yeah. See, that's organized crime. That's what they remember that. He ain't organized. He wasn't.
Starting point is 00:09:38 He ain't organized. That's why his ass is in the bid. He was unorganized crime figure. So, let me ask you, are you liking this podcast space? Who, me? Yeah, hell yeah, I'm loving it, man. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:09:54 You get the-in-a-love out there. You know what I'm saying? Definitely getting a lot of love out there. Definitely. But I feel like it's a new space of unlocking information. Right. With some of these guys I wanted to know, like, you know what I mean? Interviewing young Chris and freeway.
Starting point is 00:10:11 You're sitting there in the studio with niggas or in the club with niggas. You can't be like, yo, so fam. How you get that Moriah? Like, how was it working with Mariah? You're like, yo, dog, we're in the club. Shut up. You know what I'm saying? So it's a little different now being able to, you know, pick a nigger brain and see what was really behind the madness, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:31 No, I was in, uh, we was in Rock Nation the other day. I seen Yon Nakers, man. Joe and Jada was filming and I realized to the left of them is the actual rock solid logo. You lie. Yeah, the speaker, they have the Boombok. Oh, yeah, they know. They know. Stop playing with me.
Starting point is 00:10:49 The makers took my headquarters, too, pause. They're going to shoe in the big room. They asked me the other day, Bleak, why don't you do an episode here? Because then they're going to say I'm copying. How can you copy at your own crib? Ain't that crazy? Now I'm a copycat in my own crib. You ain't played the foul game.
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Starting point is 00:11:19 We're drinking. We're drinking. We celebrate. We hear. We celebrate. We celebrate. Drink champs. Rock silent.
Starting point is 00:11:25 So, yo. So, I had a question. Go ahead. So, EFN, you know, I know you've been running an underground scene in Miami forever. Right. Who you think held the mixtape scene down after your mom? Because you, from what I know and what I heard, the streets say you was the clue of Miami. During the cassette era, for sure.
Starting point is 00:11:49 And in the beginning of the CD era. Hey, you ain't getting no CD live? No, no, I did, I did. I just started falling out of love with it when it went into, like, the Napster Digital era. Why? I just wasn't the same. I'm an analog, dude.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Yo, chill, man. He needed to walk me. After the Walt, they said, fuck it, it's over, y'all. I quit. I quit. Yo, but Callie held it down. Who else? Well, some other mixtape DJs out here.
Starting point is 00:12:15 But Callet wasn't a mixtape DJ. He put out some mixtape. See, I wasn't outside of mine. I was the uniquely mixed music music music. That was my lane. There's a DJ cover that they got. They got him, Collett, DJ Epps, and DJ Irie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:28 And like, that's pretty much. It was mixtape magazine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's pretty much like... The DJs down here? Down here. Like, you're like, sorry to all change the subject. There's a lot of the DJs just...
Starting point is 00:12:38 I mean, you know, I recognize. The mixtape DJs. But sorry to change the subject. You put me on to my man from the Bay. Oh, Fran DeLay Bay. Yeah, yeah. So, like, what was his affiliation with Rock? Back then
Starting point is 00:12:52 His affiliation was That's what I mean Like why I love this space Because I never knew how Frannie met Jay Biggs and Dang Wow Like so when I When I went on the
Starting point is 00:13:04 Back then it was called The Chittling Circuit So you know you was doing College Radio KMEL was one of the first radio stations That let me up there Without a name Without a voice
Starting point is 00:13:13 Without being heard Or pirate radio station You know what I'm saying So And that was the guy And they was like yo, when you get to San Francisco, you tap in there with DJ Franz in. And I'm like, high niggas know a DJ in the Bay already.
Starting point is 00:13:25 But I never asked how they link to nothing. So when I met Frannie the first time, like I said, the nigga like, you bleak rolled up. And we at KMEA. And it's like. People that don't know that's a radio station. Yeah, that's like you being in the Hot 97 and Flex telling you, yo, roll up. That's not happening.
Starting point is 00:13:41 It's never happening. So that was like, yo, why I can smoke right here? And ever since then it just been locked in it. every single show. I don't care whether he's in San Diego, Seattle, L.A., San Francisco, Vegas. He was there. And everybody knew him. And then
Starting point is 00:13:59 seeing the love that he used to get from Snoop, you know what I mean, the exhibits, Dr. Dre. Because he brought that whole Bay Area, San Francisco area, right? And I always wonder, yo, bro, why you never did the mixtape game or, you know, tried to make an album? Right. He just... He would have been the West Coast Collier or the first collard. Yes, for sure.
Starting point is 00:14:15 He was out before Cali, for sure. Like, a lot of DJs respect, Frandy, because he paved the way, especially bridging the gap between the East and the West. Because he was the first West Coast DJ, I believe, playing a lot of East Coast music. He's in the Bay, right? He was. Now he in Vegas. Okay. He was the first person who played Juicy.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Yeah. That's a fact. So you said that how they met each other, how Dame and that. And they met at a, I think, at an event with Biggie. Wow. Yeah. Was it a conference or what? Like a conference out there in the Bay.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Remember, I used to do the music. conferences. Like impact. I remember going to the rapper. Yo, bro, I remember going to the record pools
Starting point is 00:14:52 where you'll be in the hood store in Oakland somewhere. Wurder and Richie Rich took me to my first DJ pool in
Starting point is 00:14:59 Oakland. The rapper Rich. Yeah, we were supposed to have one drink champ. Yeah, I used to move around the bay.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Yeah, I used to move around the bay with Richie. That's my guy, man, for sure. Like, shout out to 842. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:13 That's what I feel like rock solid going to be able to expose. A lot of relationships that I have that a lot of people in this game that's been solid and been real true friends like you know what I'm saying people they never got a chance to see that side like you know it's a million rappers that's my guys like Raskas is one of the first
Starting point is 00:15:31 rappers I ever hung with you're out of it ever that's the homie like I got in the West Coast in New York in New York Rats cats took me to some chicks crib in the lower I never put you all together like that this is what I'm saying yeah and we went to some chicks crib in the low after club Louis Issa? Yeah. Yo, these girls had about 90 cats in the crib. I swear, I never seen more cats. I can smell that crib right now.
Starting point is 00:15:53 I still. Right there. I can smell that. It smelled like this table club. Joe, I swear. I'm like, yo, we got to get the fuck out of here. I think it was like, now I'm getting right first. You bugging.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Word. Razz, my bro, man. Shout out Razz. So is there anybody, like, who's reached out to you that you was like, really? Yo, I ain't gonna lie, I did a show with you. Okay. We just did the show in Jersey, you know, at the spot, we shut it down. And leaving the spot, I saw Michael Bivens.
Starting point is 00:16:25 And he was talking to me about the podcast, and I'm like, damn, Michael Bivens checking the podcast. And he's like, yo, I got to pull up. I'm like, nigger, of course, pull up. You buggy? And new addition to. Yeah, of course, new addition to them. I just want you know, because I want people to be like, I had to let him know.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Like, bro, it probably wouldn't be a Memphis bleak if it was never no Michael Bivens. If he would have never signed another bad creation, I probably wouldn't be rapping. Like, seriously. How do you put that together with you, though? Why do you say that? Because me looking at them showed me I can do it.
Starting point is 00:17:01 It was like... Because you were that same age? Yeah, and then they was rapping about a girl named Aisha, and Aisha and Morsi wasn't the same girl they was rapping. So I had to write the remit. So he's all right? little different, man. Aisha and Left Wreck and
Starting point is 00:17:15 Queensbree was not the same that they were talking about either. You know what I'm saying? I'm sorry. They still out there. I'll keep again. She was a good girl, but it just wasn't that Aisha. Okay. So is there anybody's show that you want to do? Like, you want to get on?
Starting point is 00:17:35 I never thought about it, like, doing it, but until they, like, I just got a little, you know, from the homies in the street, they reached out. I say cam show. Okay, yeah. We talk or it is what it is. Talk with Fleet, because he got two shows. Talk with Fleet.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Either one. It is what it is. Yeah, I didn't get doing everything. Even the book. We could talk in the book, too. Fuck. Whatever. Shout out to Cammy.
Starting point is 00:17:56 He cameoed in the new Happy Gilmore. Oh, yeah. That was fun. That was dope. And I'm like, who, I wonder who from the hip-hop side. Nah, that was dope. And then you see him. That was dope.
Starting point is 00:18:05 And then shout out Blinky Blink, blink, too. Blinky blink hit me and said he got to pull up the rock silent too. Oh, that's fire. I told Jai, he, he's looking for you. Oh, yeah, because they're supposed to battle, right? Right out, yeah. Hold on, let's make some noise with camp up there. That's right.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Shout out, yeah, baby. So. But yeah, man, fucking, what's up with you, man? What are we doing? Birthday, where we, where we go, baby? Where we go? You know, you know, we do it every year. Where we go, man?
Starting point is 00:18:34 Listen, only reason why I'm leaning towards PR this year is because I can do a couple of things. I have my cousins already there They already lived there You know what I mean It's like cutting In the crew a little bit They already lived there
Starting point is 00:18:48 Everybody's easier to get access And we all want to go to Bad Bunny Concert Like you know what Bad Bunny is doing For Puerto Rico Has never been done Never ever ever Like he set up a residency
Starting point is 00:18:59 In Puerto Rico You know everyone sets up a residency Like in Vegas Miami or Or Las Vegas Or like it's traditionally in Las Vegas He's the first person in the music history that I know
Starting point is 00:19:11 that set up a shop for Puerto Rico's economy so meaning like if you fly to the island and you get the package deal like they hook you up with the hotels they hook you up with like the t-shirts or they hook your flights up
Starting point is 00:19:30 and they boosted the economy by hundreds of millions no way how often does he do it like how is I think it's um I think it's what is it Yeah, I just said that, sir Yeah, and that's crazy, man That's amazing, that's doing how many times he's performing But it's into a certain amount
Starting point is 00:19:50 And then he's going to go on an international tour I think he's actually skipping America Yeah, yeah, yeah He's doing it all Puerto Rico And it's saying, like, not saying fuck America But he was protesting a deportation shit Yeah, that's what it is. You got to respect him. I heard him say, yo man, like he visioned Puerto Rico
Starting point is 00:20:06 without Puerto Ricans and that's just think about that shit. You ever been in Dorado? No. No, no. What is it? Is Dorado or Condado? No, yeah, Dorado.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Condado, Dorado? Dorado. That's in Puerto Rico? Yeah. What's happening out there? Tax free, nigga. Yeah, so. Anybody that won tax free, they did, bro.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Oh, yeah, that's a tax haven. Yeah, they did, bro. I'm too mom. No, I'm too mom. Hey, yo, I'm black. All right. I got the complexion for correction, not the connection, because they're going to be like he's scamming. There's a whole black community there, I swear to God.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Nica says, it's a whole black community. Are they black Puerto Ricans or they black can be black black like me? They came, you were speaking Spanish to me. He was speaking English. He was like, yo, I just want you to know, I know who you are and I welcome everybody that's black to come on this eye. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, hell no, no. Not now, but that's it definitely crosses my mind every time I go there. Is there any country I would ever move to?
Starting point is 00:21:08 Like, would you, if you ever left America, what country would you? Monaco. Monaco? Niggas said, Columbia. You know what my man going to do. He's trying to lose John Hancock out there. He wants to die. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:20 He wanted to lose John Hancock in Colombia. You been to Monaco? No. No, look, all right, cool. I just did St. Barts. Say Barts is fire. Yeah, that's where you're rich niggas, man. I'm getting near.
Starting point is 00:21:31 You want to get your St. Bart story? Yeah, prove me on. We're in St. and you know dude is like taking care of everything so I wanted to take care of lunch I was like you fuck that
Starting point is 00:21:42 let me take care of lunch home you know what I'm saying swipe the card swipe the card so another one of the homies Rondell he's like yo I want to take care of the tip
Starting point is 00:21:52 so I'm like a slime I took care of everything I'm not one of them dudes I take care of the bill and yo y'all spit the tip like that's not me I got anything I got anything right
Starting point is 00:22:01 that's right so he's like I still want to take the tip so they go in the back and they must have been they was like Amanda whatever this girl name is Amanda Amanda so the way they said that shit she's walking over there she's like oh wait a minute they don't do that with the bill yeah
Starting point is 00:22:22 so I look he just he's bit he got his credit card I look you know how much they try to get this in lawfucking 4 for a tip this is a tip 20 bears 100 racks for a tip Nicky we had winks Yo a honey rack We had a hundred racks
Starting point is 00:22:42 I'm sure to go out desaturating this shit They think that Americans They think that Like American So they added What Americans? Not us
Starting point is 00:22:50 Listen Apparently Not the black and black blacks Yeah Not the blackety black blacks But it was his for too It was the way Not the chick
Starting point is 00:22:57 That me tip So I was like Yeah you gotta take that all A honey grand tip I was like you gotta do something better about that You know what she came back with? What?
Starting point is 00:23:05 20. And I'm like, yo, bro. Put your card up, man. Do your thing. This is his car. I already paid. Remember, he wasn't, he wasn't paid extra tip. Yeah, that's the reason why.
Starting point is 00:23:17 They're like, I guess that's cold word out there. Extra tip? Oh, he's bowling. Yeah, he wants the whole ball. And they're like, I don't know what he wound up tipping, but I wasn't 20 and it wasn't a hundred rack. I wasn't letting that happen on the trip. Yo, listen, St.
Starting point is 00:23:30 St. Bartz is beautiful. Yeah, it's expensive. We went out there chilling. everything was lit ain't nothing happened to me I just seen LaShawn McCoy and had to let them know G-Men nigga Oh oh
Starting point is 00:23:40 Nah but I showed them love Michelle McCoy Shout out to the homie out there St. Bartz Riding around Dolo Living fucking life And just won the championship But I still had to let them know
Starting point is 00:23:54 Giants nigga don't play with us So you're saying St. Bart's place you moved to Yeah I moved to St. Barts I moved to St. Lucia I moved to Rubeau They're going to calm that shit down. They're shooting shit up out there.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yo, at my spot. Yo, word, word. We went there last, last, you left for your birthday. Yeah, they shot up. Yeah, but I just told my man tell his cousins to chill out because it's Haitian, Haitian or Haitian, and he Haitian, so I told him make a call. Tell him, niggas fallback.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Yeah, man. You don't do that in that country. A foot washed up, a shoe. with some bones in it. They had no idea who it was. Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable. These are the coldest of cold cases,
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Starting point is 00:25:05 And I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha. On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors. And you'll meet the team behind the scenes at Othrum, the Houston Lab that takes on the most hopeless cases to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Hey guys, it's AZ Fudd. You may know me as a gold medalist. You may know me as an NCAA national champion and recent most outstanding player. You may even know me as a people's princess. But now, you're also going to know me as your favorite host. Every week on my new podcast, Fud around and find out, I'll give you an inside look at everything happening in my crazy life as I try to balance it all. From my travels across the globe to preparing for another run at the Natty with my Yukon Huskies
Starting point is 00:25:57 to just try to make it to my midterms on time. You'll get the inside scoop on everything. I'll be talking to some special guests about pop culture, basketball, and what it's like to be a professional athlete on and off the court. You'll even get to have some fun with the fud family. So if you follow me on social media or watch me on TV, you may think you know me. But this show is the only place where you can really fud around and find out.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Listen to fud around and find out, a production of IHeart women's sports and partnership with unanimous media. on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. We all know, right? Genius is evenly distributed. Opportunity is not. It's Black Business Month and Black Tech Green Money is tapping in. I'm Will Lucas spotlighting Black founders, investors, and innovators, building the future,
Starting point is 00:26:46 one idea at a time. Let's talk legacy, tech, and generational wealth. I don't think any person of any gender, race, ethnicity should alter who. they are, especially on an intellectual level or a talent level, to make someone else feel comfortable just because they are the majority in this situation and they need employment. So for me, I'm always going to be honest in saying that we need to be unapologetically ourselves. If that makes me a vocal CEO and people consider that rocking the boat, so be it. To hear this and more on the power of black innovation and ownership, listen to Black Tech Green Money from the Black Effect
Starting point is 00:27:19 Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Minchers should never come with a pause button. Remember the Movie Pass era, where you could watch all the movies you wanted for just $9? It made zero cents, and I could not stop thinking about it. I'm Bridget Todd, host of the tech podcast, there are no girls on the internet. On this new season, I'm talking to the innovators who are left out of the tech headlines. Like the visionary behind a movie pass, Black founder Stacey Spikes, who was pushed out of Movie Pass, the company that he founded.
Starting point is 00:27:51 His story is wild, and it's currently the subject of a juicy new 8th. documentary. We dive into how culture connects us. When you go to France, or you go to England, or you go to Hong Kong, those kids are wearing Jordans. They're wearing Kobe's shirt. They're watching Black Panther. And the challenges of being a Black founder. Close your eyes and tell me what a tech founder looks like. They're not going to describe someone who looks like me and they're not going to describe someone who looks like you. I created there are no girls on the internet because the future belongs to all of us. So listen to their There are no girls on the internet on the IHurt Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:28:29 You know what I mean? They're wilding. Not in Turks, man. Go fight in the middle of the ocean, dog. In the middle of the ocean? Yeah. Like the Westerns used to do. Take 10 steps and draw.
Starting point is 00:28:39 That niggas take 40 paddles and draw, man. Fuck it. Yeah, that hurt me. Come on. Well, heard of. Not in Turks, man. I just went one time. The Prince Crip.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Okay. So you fucked up by Turks trip. Yeah. Because it's like, I can't just go. go and be in the hotel. Now, we need Prince Craig. I fucked that up on purpose. Yeah, you got it.
Starting point is 00:29:00 The purple joint? Yeah, we need the purple road. I don't think no one came on that trip and go back to Turks and be regular. Yeah, like, I can't be regular. I got to have. We got to have a boat moving up to the joint. We're disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:29:11 We're climbing over other people. We said Noah's Park. Yeah, that's the name of the little. It's really a cheap spot. That's so dope. It's like so dope. But we went to the, we went in the water. But not only that, we had our own beach.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Like, literally. like I'm not exaggerating like it's a block why you don't vacate huh I got little ones I ain't going nowhere they could go too yeah bro how many what you got no five and seven year old come on my nigga you act like you had NBA young boy numbers bro I don't give a bud come on man I'm keeping them stable at home consistent that's all I'm doing so they can't see the world no they can see the world yeah you got your little niggas lock you know they're doing this That's all the fuck they want to see I ain't spending money taking them
Starting point is 00:29:57 When they don't give a fuck about nothing else That costs more than vacation Disney World for you You and your wife and two kids It's about 20 blacks Yo, he and cheetah He won't go to Epkaia Eat around the world
Starting point is 00:30:09 That's right I ain't got a lot I'm drinking around the world You got this shit That's just dope I did it too That's why I know about it And it's safe with the kids
Starting point is 00:30:16 That's where Mario World is that He said and is safe with the kids He's talking see We talk about they shooting up Turks Aruba is safe with the kids. They're shooting up Aruba. They ain't going nowhere. Actually, I'm taking them to Spain soon.
Starting point is 00:30:30 They ain't going nowhere, but they're going to Spain. Because we got family there. Yeah, see? No, St. Barts is it, bro. I did all three. But I did, I ain't going to front. Did St. Martin and Gila? I did, yeah. We flew in the St. Martin chilled, then we did St. Bartz
Starting point is 00:30:45 and we did Anguilla. But I told my wife, listen, my wife, this was for her birthday, so I fell in line. But she damn sure put us on the Chitland circuit of vacations. She had me taking the boat, of course, with the regular, I'm going to say that, because we regular people, too, but. The Rikers Island boat?
Starting point is 00:31:05 Yeah. Okay. Like a ferry? Yeah, the ferry. So, you know, I ain't know she's telling me. Yeah, it's a 20-minute ride, 30 minutes. I get on this shit. This shit like the Stad Island fairy, because.
Starting point is 00:31:19 So I'm looking at that hot, like, you know we're supposed to have our own boat, right? We're supposed to rent a boat to go here, they rent a boat to go there. She's like, yeah, but it's only $35 in this dish. And it's like, yo, sure they never again, man. I said, if I invited some of my good, right, like, and I told him,
Starting point is 00:31:37 if Norrie was here, he would have been in Paul. He wouldn't have been with us. He would have been like, yo, I just got my nails done. I'm not getting on that boat. And it's terrible. Yeah. I don't get my nails done. But that's funny. I didn't know about that one time.
Starting point is 00:31:51 And I got on a boat. The miss is like, how you know, to go to Vyakis, oh my God, I'm still scarred from that shit. Yo, listen, my homies threw up.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Two of my homies had to go outside get in. Yeah, it's like the jam. It's like the jail. Oh, yeah, those are the worst. Yo, you be need, y'all be needing Drimamine. I never heard a Drimamine
Starting point is 00:32:09 until my man wife said it. We was in Italy and she can't. She used to drive it. So she said, I don't sit in the back of the car. I need Drimamine. So me, I'm like, what the fuck is Drimamine? Motion sickness. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Yo, bro, I got that shit in every flavor now when you go to the airport. You want chips, oh, he'll hoi, Jim, Drimamine, they got it. Like, yo, I swear, I'd never heard of it to that one time,
Starting point is 00:32:29 and now everybody I'm around be like, yo, I need Drimine. It's like, what the fuck? When so many people get motion sickness, man? And what is that? What is that?
Starting point is 00:32:39 Like, it's a medicine Yeah, like you get seasick, you know, riding roller coasters, riding the back of the car. They just, like me, I'm, we crazy. Me, all my kids,
Starting point is 00:32:49 we want to be in the front row roller coaster. They ran the boat To the class When we went together Oh yeah I was scarred Yeah you get on the
Starting point is 00:32:58 I ain't gonna thrott As soon as we got off The regular boat I was like Book the boat You get on them Bullshit fairies man You start seeing the locals
Starting point is 00:33:05 And you be like I'm not them And it's not that It's that like That bathroom Yeah That bathroom When they open up that bath
Starting point is 00:33:13 These are people paying $35 dollars They're pissing on the toilet You know what I'm Pissing on the wall My nigga Like This shit bad
Starting point is 00:33:20 It's like I can't I can't do it, man. Like, even in Amsterdam one time, my wife, I'm telling you, she'd be trying to go with the major Budget Express, and I'd be trying to tell her, we ain't got to do this. Why are you using coupons overseas? Like, yo.
Starting point is 00:33:38 You said she using Groupons overseas? Coupons, even worse. Yo, we in Amsterdam, we want to do some, and she's like, we could just take the train. We don't have to get an Uber. Like, Shorty, you ain't see what just happened. with them Americans stopping the terror attack on the train. This is around the same
Starting point is 00:33:55 time. I'm not that American. Just listen to me. I'm not that one. They got the, we get north next time, baby. I'm not diffusing the shooters. Like, you bug it? Nah. I got to work out with John them niggins a little bit more. Let me blinkie, blink, and Jim Jones. Let me work out with them for two years.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Yeah, then I might, yeah. If I could do pull-ups like Jada, I defuse us, a shoe. You ready to defuse. Pick up the giant. We got giant coming out. The bartenders, we got them coming out. You got them coming out to Orlando. You know, we got the Worldness Retreat in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:34:40 But how did it go when you were working out with them? Oh, yeah. What did y'all do? What was that workout routine? Oh, we filmed it. It's coming out on a run chance? It came out on Instagram. Some of my ground.
Starting point is 00:34:50 No, you ain't. doing the movie? The movie? You busted out. That's not a part of it? No. No, I went just to see him. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:34:58 These niggas just running all over the world. He's running just to run. He's going to have a, soon, you're going to get on your Peloton, and they're going to have a fucking gnawere map. That's the movie. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:35:10 You're playing. We was at Peloton all the day. Yeah. That was a great joke. Say it again. It's a great one right there. They're going to have the Norrie map. You know, it's crazy, this was real talk about that.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And I promise you, I know you didn't know how smart that what you just said. When I took the pictures in front of Peloton, people were asking me, like, what is that? And I was like, yeah, I don't know what Peloton is. It's insane. It made me realize, like, how far some people from the hood is removed from regular life outside the hood. Like, this is Pelotan, fucking Barry's boot camp. like, it's a whole bunch of these things that's, like, the biggest thing in,
Starting point is 00:35:55 in the health industry. Right, the fact that the hood is not, not a breast to that, you know, arm and steery, like, things like that. Yeah. The fact that the hood is not abreast to that, like bartenders, like, they're not, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I mean, like, we're not good runners. Right. Figures don't like, right, like to shit. They was asking me, Peloton, and people, the fact that they didn't even know it, it was like, you know what? One, it made me disappointed, but two, it was like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:36:20 This is, this is, this is, who I'm selling to. The motherfuckers that don't know. You know what I said? See, I got a Peloton in the crib. Shout out my man, Paul. He bought one and say,
Starting point is 00:36:28 yo, I don't want to use it. Bleak, you think you want it? I think, yeah, I use it. Never use it. Like, it's coming with the Norway up great soon. You got the bike or the treadmill? The bike. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:36:36 My wife keep trying to get the treadmill. Yeah, they got treadmills. I didn't know that. I thought it was just bikes. So you really didn't see the picture. I'm going to send you. We're in the Peloton office with the girl who wins the whole shit.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Yeah, we want her. Tell us in that discount. Oh, yeah, yeah, right? Los was here. Tell us in that discount. We get the trademail, right, EF? Andrew. Tell us in that discount code.
Starting point is 00:36:58 We'll get salute to the discount code. We'll get the trap mill. That way we can roll with you. Wherever we at, we can roll with you. Well, you know, this is a collab episode, but still, you, you, we're at Drink Camp's office, so we want to give your flowers, continue to get your flowers. Yo, I'm going to have my son.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Yo, I ain't going to lie. I love my niggas. I'm going to have about 40 briefcases in the crib of Gold Roses. Make a wall. Let's go. Word up, man. Appreciate my jeans, man.
Starting point is 00:37:26 But that's when you get the Rocks on the Studio, you put that in the Rocks on the Studio. That's right, man. We, yo, we so, we so, we don't have no destination. We are out of shooting anywhere we go. Yeah, that's fine. You know what?
Starting point is 00:37:39 Let me just tell you something. I just told you it. I just told you it. No, no, no, take it out. Don't listen to has I told you already. It works. Say, okay. Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Look, it's there. Take that shit the fuck off, bro. Take it off, man. The best thing is, like, even when you tell me, other day you said the Tach Stone gave you an idea. And it's like, you know what? Even in this day and time, big up the Tach Stone. No, shout out, Tax.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Read my dog, man. But what you got to do is just listen to the fans. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, the first couple episodes is you learning. Yes. And then after that, it's like,
Starting point is 00:38:15 everyone's not a hater and everyone is not, you know what I'm saying? It's not wishing you well. I know, you got to look at both sides and tax is my dog. That's my bro. So nothing he's saying I'm ever looking at it as hate or is always criticism. And me, I take criticism very well because I feel like if nothing, everything can't be perfect. So if there's nothing wrong, everything is wrong. So if it's only one thing.
Starting point is 00:38:45 wrong that mean you on the path to be as perfect you know what I mean so I love it he always give me criticism like tax her just hit me out of nowhere bitch ass nigga what you doing you ain't getting no money you ain't out there working I don't know I think he j he hold he thinks he holds right right because he'd be calling me
Starting point is 00:39:01 on the same thing shit like yo what y'all think is doing I'm in jail making more money than you nigga like huh chill out my gee wow for her hey I'm gonna take another shot
Starting point is 00:39:14 Of course you are. Is it quick time with slime, Tom? We got quick time? Quick time. You got still got quick time? This guy said no time with slime. Yo, listen. Yo, listen.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Yo, chill, chill, chill, quick time with slime. I'm glad we here. Because certain shit I can't bring up on rock silent. Okay. But I can bring it up here. All right. Let's see. Yo, what's up with your man fat Joe, though?
Starting point is 00:39:40 Yo. He called himself Crack God. Like, you know, crack him along. Your last thing is hilarious. You know, crack, that wasn't real? No, the one with him in Farron. Oh, yes. Cracked him, but listen, I don't respect, I'm never knocking a nigger going to you five percent of, whatever you want your religion is following.
Starting point is 00:40:04 But why my man, everything he into got crack in it? There's no way, no religion put crack like, you crack till. Yo, I got to have him on Rock Solid because we got to stand on that one. That the religious, religion people say crack? Yeah, that's wild. That was wicked. I hope you hit him.
Starting point is 00:40:29 It was like, bro, you're out of line. Not on that one. I hit him on a whole bunch of other shit. I felt like there's too much at this point. But you know why? You know what they're going crazy right now? He said, why he used to call him crack, it's not because of crack.
Starting point is 00:40:43 It's because, like, he just said, So he was fat. Like a plumbers crack? Yeah, the plumbers crack. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he said he robbed 60 niggas with no gun and they helped him carry this stuff. Yo, that was all. He's the best.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Y, I love it. Yo, listen. And he said his barbed so long that he was six years old. And he had 20 niggas. It's like the most interesting man. You know those commercials? You all love that digger. You know, that nigga definitely read the Enquirer as a kid.
Starting point is 00:41:18 He definitely picked that shit up in the store. He bought the Daily News and the Enquirer for sure. I'm going to take a shot for that. Let's take a shot for that. Salood, Shaolin crack him all over. Why did he say that? What was the reason why he broke that? He said, they had a neighborhood that was, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:41:40 five percent hood like day never. His was crazy. He's not fretting. It just sounds so crazy. Yeah, cracked him a lot. Yeah, I mean, forest projects were kind of known as, like, the guard projects. Yeah, the guard island.
Starting point is 00:41:54 It was known for that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, certain places in Brooklyn, I forget the places in Brooklyn. It's known for that. My nigga, right by Tildare projects at Brownsville. Yeah. That was the guard central, nigga. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:06 As a kid, I used to think it was drama. Because them thing is telling me, you know, the five percenters was on. some shit back there. It's so deep. And I know that era, so I know he's, I know what he's named. You were talking your shit, too. Yeah, I know what you said.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Because you were on your 5% of shit on your first album on T&D. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm still 5% to this day, but not crack Kim or a law, though. I got corn do, condue self-esteem plus degree a law, you know what I said? Like, you know, I keep it clean. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. But you saw that AI that they made.
Starting point is 00:42:43 They made a picture. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the shirt that said that. Yeah. Crack him, though. Wild, wild. Disrespectful, man. Yo, that right there had me like, yo, I love them.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Joe and Jada, yeah, yeah. Them niggas is pared up. I like, I like the fact that they, you know, they're showing that chemistry, like, like Jada is disagreeing with most of it. And it's like, that's dope. Yeah, nah, they definitely have it fun, man. That nigga, they definitely have it fun. That's the best part about it, but my man.
Starting point is 00:43:13 They called him the cap guard. He had mad cap names when we were there. What was Captain Crunch? Yo, chill. I was going to come out on his show with the Captain Crunch box. They call him Captain Crunch. He's just to fuck with him. Yo, chill.
Starting point is 00:43:27 You know what? One, he could take it. And two, I think he kind of likes it. He's having fun with it. Yeah. He's having fun with it. One, I know he can take it. And two, I can almost see him having fun with it.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I was just telling niggas the other day on some g-shed. This is disrespectful. and I apologize to every mom and every woman out there. But if you're from New York City or you from any hard inner city growing up and you made it to this music business and you let a fan that you don't know, never met on the internet, social media, crack that shell, use a limit had. Because if you think about it, and we grew up with the most disrespectful friends. My friends was more disrespectful than anybody on the internet.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I remember racing my friends to the store. Niggas, like last nigga to the store, mom suck dick. Niggas running for mom's life. Like, real tall. Like, yo, dick, you ain't get flied first day at school. It's moms a crack cat. You're like, damn, sir, you just was eating in my crib last night and playing Nintendo. Mom jokes are the horrid.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Now my mom's smoking crack? Damn! So when you, from that era, I don't think it's nothing in music or social media that can penetrate. You know what I mean? I agree with you. Because for real. I think what it is, it's a numbers thing, too, especially if you're reading it. First of all, you shouldn't be reading this shit.
Starting point is 00:45:03 But if you read it. I read it. I love it. You might be good with 10-file ones. The 11th one got you. No, no. I love listening niggas talk of shit. Niggas like, yeah, he only out there because Jay Z paid for it. Like, yeah, I wish Jay sent that credit card, digger.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I won't be out here. I'll be up there. Fuck out here. I'm out here on my own budget. Give me his budget. I'm up there. You won't see me again. Straight up.
Starting point is 00:45:32 A foot washed up a shoe with some bones in it. They had no idea who it was. Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that, Not a whole lot was salvageable. These are the coldest of cold cases, but everything is about to change. Every case that is a cold case that has DNA. Right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime. A small lab in Texas is cracking the code on DNA.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Using new scientific tools, they're finding clues in evidence so tiny you might just miss it. He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha. on America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors, and you'll meet the team behind the scenes at Othrum, the Houston Lab that takes on the most hopeless cases to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Hey guys, it's AZ Fudd. You may know me as a gold medalist. You may know me as an NCAA national champion and recent most outstanding player. You may even know me as a people's princess, but now you're also going to know me as your favorite host. Every week on my new podcast, fud around and find out, I'll give you an inside look at everything happening in my crazy life as I try to balance it all. From my travels across the globe to preparing for another run at the Natty with my Yukon Huskies to just try to make it to my midterms on time. You'll get the inside scoop on everything. I'll be talking to some special guests about pop culture, basketball, and what it's like to be a professional athlete on and off the court.
Starting point is 00:47:10 You'll even get to have some fun with the FUD family. So if you follow me on social media or watch me on TV, you may think you know me. But this show is the only place where you can really fud around and find out. Listen to Fud Around and Find Out, a production of IHart Women's Sports and partnership with unanimous media. On the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. We all know, right?
Starting point is 00:47:35 Genius is evenly distributed. Opportunity is not. It's Black Business Month and Black Tech Green Money is tapping in. I'm Will Lucas spotlighting Black founders, investors, and innovators, building the future, one idea at a time. Let's talk legacy, tech, and generational wealth. I don't think any person of any gender, race, ethnicity should alter who they are, especially on an intellectual level or a talent level to make someone else feel comfortable just because they are the majority in this situation and they need employment. So for me, I'm always going to be honest in saying that we,
Starting point is 00:48:09 need to be unapologetically ourselves. If that makes me a vocal CEO and people consider that rocking the boat, so be it. To hear this and more on the power of black innovation and ownership, listen to Black Tech Green Money from the Black Effect Podcast Network
Starting point is 00:48:22 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Adventure should never come with a pause button. Remember the movie pass era where you could watch all the movies you wanted for just $9? It made zero cents and I could not stop thinking about it. I'm Bridget Todd.
Starting point is 00:48:39 to the tech podcast, there are no girls on the internet. On this new season, I'm talking to the innovators who are left out of the tech headlines, like the visionary behind a movie pass, Black founder Stacey Spikes, who was pushed out of movie pass the company that he founded. His story is wild that it's currently the subject of a juicy new HBO documentary. We dive into how culture connects us. When you go to France, or you go to England, or you go to Hong Kong, Those kids are wearing Jordans, they're wearing Kobe's shirt, they're watching Black Panther. And the challenges of being a Black founder. Close your eyes and tell me what a tech founder looks like.
Starting point is 00:49:17 They're not going to describe someone who looks like me and they're not going to describe someone who looks like you. I created There Are No Girls on the Internet because the future belongs to all of us. So listen to There Are No Girls on the Internet on the IHurt Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let me ask you, right now, it feels like it's the year of the man that used to stand next to his man, right? Mm-hmm. Like, I think Spiff Starr
Starting point is 00:49:45 will drop a podcast right now it'll go through the roof. I think Tony Yeo would drop a podcast right now it'll go through the roof. I think Jungle will drop a podcast right now. It'll go through the roof. I've seen something, Tony Ayo said, Hove don't look out for me, like 50 look out for help.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Oh, where he said that? I just want to clear that up. Hove don't have to. All right. I'm chewing a lot on my own. If Hove, look out, I'm telling you, I'll be up there. So when y'all see me out here, that's the blizzle budget. But back to you, I'm sorry for cutting you off.
Starting point is 00:50:18 But I just want to let niggas know, Hove don't have to. So, for lack of a better term, Jim used to be that for Cam. Now it kind of feels like Juell just being that for him. Yeah. Do you feel like this is the year of that? Yeah, I'm the big homie now, man No, I'm always the big homie I can't talk shit
Starting point is 00:50:40 I just was with him in Vegas He came out on the show Like, yo, I'm gonna... Yeah, yo, he just came out on the show And my nigga, they went stupid I said, listen, I know you working Save me a verse He's like, all right, I got you
Starting point is 00:50:54 So if it happens, it happens But listen You know you're gonna rumor dad's rumor I don't care, that's right We're working, baby Room it up Home is outside Bleak back, coming to age three, drop it
Starting point is 00:51:04 But, nah, but, nah, man, like, I don't like to see what's going on with Cam and Jim. At Jim, Cam and Jim, okay. I don't like to see that, man. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like real bros should never be for on the social media. It's like the same thing in my own crew, you know what I'm saying? Like, when I see Dane or Beans or anybody talking shit that don't need to be discussed on media. It's like you get with your homies,
Starting point is 00:51:34 Whether you got to pull up, meet them somewhere, call, do something. You handle it that way, man. For the public to be in the middle of the drama is whack, man. It's like even when relationships, it's like, fam, don't bring me in the group chat. My thing, I ain't asked for that. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm chilling. Like, I don't want to know what you and your wife in the crib arguing about.
Starting point is 00:51:56 You know what I mean? But to see the homies that really built came from nothing and created something and everybody's successful, everybody healthy, kids is grown, kids is college graduates. To get this far and beef, it's like, it's crazy. It almost makes the journey unworth it. Right. You're not even worth it. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:18 I was going to take a shot to that, but we got a quick time of slime. It's short, yeah, it's short. But we got to get them with shots, Jamie. Come on, I got shots right here. You know, I'm mixed kids. It's short. It's short. I'm mixed king.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Don't shoot. No, I got to live the rest of the day. The other one got repurposed. I got re-lip the rest of the day. Oh, okay, you're good. Okay. You're listening. It's a short one.
Starting point is 00:52:45 I need a trash can right here so I could do like I was doing with the girls in Minnesota. Acting like I was taking the shots. Oh. Okay, you're right? All right. Remember, Mr. Lee and Columbia as makes that. What, they made what? The quick time was around.
Starting point is 00:53:03 So if I get mad, I get mad, I get mad at Lee. You get mad at the cocaine section. Just get mad at Lee. You said the cocaine section. I'm fucking done. Yo, chill. Okay, you ready? One day we're going to get the coffee.
Starting point is 00:53:14 What's the cocaine section? They got Gilbert. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we're going to relax. No, it's not. Yo, shit. Reasonable doubt or in my lifetime? Huh?
Starting point is 00:53:30 That's the same? In my lifetime, what? Volume one, volume two, because it's not just a in my lifetime. Volume two. Reasonable doubt, reasonable doubt. Reasonable doubt? Yeah, volume two, both of them is my shit, but reasonable doubt.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Okay. Coming to age or apartment 3D? Apartment 3D. It's a new shit, right? Let's take a shot for that, even though you ain't have to. Yeah, I'm saying? Yeah, well, let's take a shot for that. New shit, apartment 3D.
Starting point is 00:54:01 baby that's right congrats on that by the way thank you my brother thank you my man independent correct on your own definitely independent on your own on Memphis Bleak records okay let's do-it-yourself records yeah shout out every producer that held it down especially my guy that's in the building my man sharp I recorded every record in his living room his wife used to be like yeah my mom man yeah his wife used to be like be like, y'all, I'm going to the gym so y'all can do y'all thing. So for those who think Hove right for me, he must have came to the O and came to Shark Clint and wrote all those joints.
Starting point is 00:54:42 I told Shark, we're going to put the documentary out of Hove in his living room. Okay. Was it all about the Benjamin's or life? Yeah. Life. Life, for sure, man. Come on. That's my movie.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Yeah, that's my movie, too. Come on, man We don't want to hear that bullshit Mind right or high tolerance Mind right, man You fucking tripping What's wrong with you? Mind right exotics, man
Starting point is 00:55:14 It's stores all over Maryland, man Story the motherfucker dispensary Minor if you can't find story Okay All right Is dark in hell as hot Or flesh of my flesh? I was just talking
Starting point is 00:55:31 about this album. Flesh of my flesh is the one where you had the blood all on them, right? Yeah, flesh in my flesh, man. Rest of peace,
Starting point is 00:55:38 dark man, eggs. Rest and peace. Grease or Aruba? I need a shot. All right, let's go. Jesus, that's the one that makes you take a shot?
Starting point is 00:55:49 Because I love both. Okay. I love both. Greece and the Reba. Shout out my man, sniper. You know what's crazy? I've been to Aruba.
Starting point is 00:56:01 And it was just mid for me. I must have went in the wrong time. It was what? It was weird. It was mid. You ain't go with me, man. Okay, my bad. That's a great question.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Great answer. You ain't go with me, baby. I got to take your crowd, man. You guys just start a travel agency for the islands. That's what you got to do. I got a TV show I'm working on with him in Norway. I mean, him and Jai. You know, it's going to be trapped, war.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Yeah, travel wars. I like you. Joe and Jada, or a million dollars worth a game? Joe and Jada. I don't put it like this. I'm not going to put it like I don't fuck with a million dollars worth the game. I never met Gilly and I never met Walo.
Starting point is 00:56:37 My nigga, I never spoke to them all. Like, Jada and Joe to my dogs. Like, so I can't put people that I never met over my dogs. Like, if I knew both of them, it would be a fair question. Okay. It is what it is, or Joe Butte? Shot. God.
Starting point is 00:56:56 They both my dogs. See what I mean? Joe, my dog. Cammy Mace. Mace. He's kind of my dog He'll pray for his dog So he's my dog
Starting point is 00:57:06 You gotta have a Joe Bunn episode On Rock Solid Joe Bunn't getting too much money 20 million a year We're talking into existence now We gotta happen We're gonna talk through Elon's satellite Oh shit
Starting point is 00:57:20 Oh shit Bink or Just Blaze Just Blaze Okay Oh I thought that was gonna be hard for you Bink my nigger But Judge Blaze You had just
Starting point is 00:57:31 It's kind of like, it's kind of like Famatism right there. I told him he got to pull up, man. You got to have both. Just, just been around more, you know? Because Bing going to come on and he's going to reveal some shit. Bing going to flame, niggum.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Bink been trying to tell his side of the story. Come on, man. Pull up. Rock solid. That's right. I got the platform. Come talk. Talk that shit.
Starting point is 00:57:51 And then after he go on Rock Solid, then they're going to drink chance. But his story, he needs to first we told on Rock Solid. Because this is a Rock and Feller story, especially that part of him. Pull up. Him and the Just Blaze's part. Yo, I'm a wait for my part, but Big is weird. He's a wild dude, man. I love my guy Bing.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Okay. Ducey or Ace of Spade? Duce. It's the Mafia. Who are an ace of space? Yo, chill. You know, I speak their language. You speak with Sir Lee, because that wasn't as.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Duce Mafia for life, baby. You know what it is. We cross. Cam or Mace? Cam. Cam was on the rock, baby. You know what I mean? They said two shots for Cam for taking over the rock.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Well, uh, one shot. Did we take it a shot for that? One shot. Okay. One shot. Okay. Uh-huh. Jada or Stiles P?
Starting point is 00:58:52 Another shot. Damn. The ghosts and Jada is that. Come on. Okay, you put Jada? Mm-mm. We take a shot, right? Both. Both.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Okay. Both. Bigs are dame? Biggs. Bigs. Ray Korn or Ghostface? Both. Take a shot.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Shot, shots. It's getting pretty easy now. Capone or Noriega? Noriega. Noriega. Take a shot just for God. And I just met Capone. He's a cool ass nigga.
Starting point is 00:59:34 You just met? Yeah. Get the fuck out of here all these years? But you've never met before, though? No, at the show in Atlantic City. In New Jersey, the first time. In New Jersey, the first time. In Atlantic City, because the other one was Newark.
Starting point is 00:59:45 I'm bugging out. Yeah, the show in Atlantic City, he thought he had, he brought sexy back. Yo, yo, yo, he was showing you, he was bringing sexy back. He was all this shit. What the routine is Capone on? Look, listen. He's on the Peloton? I'm just telling you.
Starting point is 00:59:59 I don't tell you. Everyone used to always think it was me Like people forget that he got locked up So he probably you probably didn't see all of his image He's the he's the outgoing person I had to kind of become that person Because I had to you know Fill two seats
Starting point is 01:00:16 But you see he got right in rapper mode Bro In Atlanta City that was okay It was he was okay Yeah New Jersey Newark Oh my God I mean come up
Starting point is 01:00:26 Pones of Superstar That didn't go with outside He had his ladies with him He had his daughter with him. That nigga, like, he had his shirt. And boom smooth, man. That nigga had his shirt open like he was genuine, like he was about to sing. He had his shit like he was about to sing how you fit in those jeans.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Straight up. Yeah, he was talking about to see Pony. What? Pony, you know, Pony. Word up. He took his shirt pulled off. And you know what? I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 01:00:56 As, you know, a person that's a part of a group, I haven't done. groups, you know, together in so long, I did miss that shit. And I did, I did miss the crowd. I was like, see, it's never been me, guys. Look. I'm the cool one, no, no. No, man, that shit always is dope.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Like, that's what I wanted to ask you, too, man. How is it? Because he's been locked up then the whole career. Not really, now he came up. He was locked up for the main two albums. Yes, man, that's what I mean. He came up. Ninety-eight, right?
Starting point is 01:01:24 Ninety-nine? Like, so how did it really, how is it you feel to have your bro back what you on stage, reliving those moments where, you know, most people, most artists, their career die out. So when they get back on stage, it's over. But you kept the flame lit.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Yeah. Everybody's home live on MTV? Word up. Yeah. That was crazy. That's what real niggas do. You know what I'm saying? Shut to that, man. You know what I mean? My G and no. It ain't. So I know Pohn. I know Pone got to be happy, like,
Starting point is 01:01:56 nigger, because Pong was phoned at home. Now he home and living. So that's what I miss, and I'll tell you what else I miss, and I know you know this, is that overseas crowd. That overseas crowd, like, all right. So, like, most of the time when you're, like, a legendary act, you get from, like, 6 o'clock to 9 o'clock to perform. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:16 And you kind of, like, I can go home and, like, if you're in a chair with your kids or whatever. What's crazy is I actually have, like, two careers kind of, like, right? So at the 9 o'clock or 12 o'clock, I can actually. go and do reggaeton. I can actually go and do home boy. I can actually do my solo hits. So that's the one thing I do miss it. Like, you know what I mean? Like, besides
Starting point is 01:02:39 performing on stage, period. Like, when I seen him wilder now, it kind of like, it made me happy. I was like, see, now the world gets to see, there's never me. It was never me who was the wild person. Because that War Report album was a, and I feel like he missed that run is
Starting point is 01:02:56 insane. That's crazy. I don't think a lot of people even remember or know that. that he missed that run. That's how he met him by yourself for the CNN album. Yeah, that's how I met him by itself with the GS's. And I'm like, we're upon that. And then that's when I knew Pone phone home was real. That wasn't recorded in the studio.
Starting point is 01:03:14 That was real. Paul was phoned at home. He reminded me of, you know, an artist I had, my man H. Money Bag. That had so much potential, super nice. He's home now. He's home now. But it's like, you know, niggins. just, the law just, they could never
Starting point is 01:03:32 just escape the grasp of the law, man. Just, you know, and I feel like that cut their chances a little bit. But at least poems still get to live and live in those moments. We just had G. Dep on, bro. I know, man. And that was crazy to see he said, he
Starting point is 01:03:47 never regretted. Y'all turning to somebody. Oh, yeah, no, he does. That's the number one question everybody want to know. Hey, dog, what was you smoking, now? Yeah, he says that. People inside were telling them that. I'm gonna be honest with you. Because I asked him the question
Starting point is 01:04:03 like five different times because I, you know, I watched all of his interviews to like try to like try to like, you know, like get him. In the case he was uncomfortable talking about it. I wanted to talk to him about it. Yeah. And the way he read that he is comfortable. Yeah. So I asked
Starting point is 01:04:18 him five different times and I didn't want to just be like, yo, why? You know? And when I asked him why and he was like, he's like he didn't regret it. Yeah. And not one time. I was like, you are a much better dude that meet at him. Yeah, listen, listen, listen.
Starting point is 01:04:34 I don't care if I'm Jabba the Hut from Spaceball's Paul. Jabba from Spaceball? He ate itself to death. You're talking about eating them alive. It's not he and me that dick digger. Ain't nothing in this world
Starting point is 01:04:50 going to make me go to them niggas and tell them niggas. Hey, Cah, I know what I did last summer. Or, you know, he, he, He understands that. He paid this death in society. He said, the people that didn't have bodies
Starting point is 01:05:05 would never understand. He said the people that have bodies inside understood. Yeah, he's right. I don't. You're right. I don't have nobody. I don't understand. He said everybody without bodies didn't understand.
Starting point is 01:05:15 I don't understand. I do not need it. I don't need it. What? I don't understand. Like, the way he broke it down. Like, that shit was like. He broke it down where it made sense.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Listen, every man has their own journey. They own path. Right. So I don't knock. No. For the decisions and choices they make Because you got to live with those And he decided to live with that decision
Starting point is 01:05:35 He came home a better man I hear him talking I see his interviews His mind is sharper He fresher than what he was when he was on the street So he might have the illest Business plan business model lined up We don't know everything ain't about rap You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:05:51 He didn't know that he had a body When he turned himself in He wasn't sure he wasn't sure what it was He was not he was sure No, no, no, no, no, no, he says it. He didn't know. He didn't know what happened to that person. Like, he thought he clapped yala.
Starting point is 01:06:04 He ain't know he. He didn't know what happened. He bodied the yala. This is spanned. Okay. Yeah, the yala, that shit happens. He bodyed the yala. That's the, but that's how it happened, my nigger.
Starting point is 01:06:15 90% of these bodies is caught by mistake. You know what I'm saying? Not intended. They just want to shoot to scare somebody or shoot to hurt them real quick. And the niggas lay there and stretch. I mean, you shoot him. You shoot him. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:06:27 You pull that ratty out, boy. It's only one thing that you should have on your mind is the intent to kill. Don't pull that ratty out to scare nobody, anger, because you're going to be sitting there. Lives are changing one way or the other. That's a fact. Like the boy, like the OG Sabaz say, 30 seconds or 30 years, you pick which one? You better make the right decision. I think I'm just Shabazz the OG.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Word up. 30 seconds or 30 years. So let me ask you the last one and then we get back. No, I got another one. You got another one? You go over there because I was going to end it with it. No, no, we got a couple more. You got a couple more?
Starting point is 01:07:00 Oh, a couple more. Come on, shoot. Big Daddy Kane and Rakim. Ooh, Big Daddy King, because he taught me how to get these ho-hoos. Oh, shit. No. Oh, shit. Okay, here's a legendary one on drink champs.
Starting point is 01:07:20 What, who? Scarface. Excuse me, Ice Cube, or Biggie? Biggie, man. Come on. I never met Cube. I love fucks with Cube. I never met Cube, though.
Starting point is 01:07:32 You know what I mean? Cube a good dude, man. His criteria, if I never met you, I'm not picking you. No, it ain't even that I never met you. No, but Biggie is my God, man. Like, come on, man. Biggie is family. We've been in the crib with Biggie.
Starting point is 01:07:45 First time I seen the elevator in the house was in Biggie Cree in Teaneck, New Jersey, man. Cube never showed me nothing but Friday, man. He showed you a lot. Yeah, that's a lot. It's still a lot. He showed you there's a way. There's a way. He definitely showed me away.
Starting point is 01:08:00 And I love his transition because it's crazy. My son think Ice Cube is just an actor. And I'm like, nah, he gangsta, gangster. Right, right. Like, he gang gang. He like, whatever, dad. Are we there yet? Kill dad, the wall.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Yeah, you said you got a war? No, no, no. He killed me with the big dedication. Or respect. Loyalty or respect I feel like loyalty brings respect Okay You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:08:31 I feel that You gotta respect you just for your loyalty Okay No actually I'm gonna add one Okay Being a podcaster Or being an MC artist Podcaster
Starting point is 01:08:43 Is I get to talk my shit Without a beat Or sitting there Trying to think of some shit That niggas gonna fuck with Or like It's just fucking It's not
Starting point is 01:08:55 So you see podcasting is easier than being an artist? Yeah, because this is, you know Jay told me years ago, man, I swear. This is, I think, when ludicrous first came out, because Jay, we always used to crack jokes to do shit, and he would be like, yo, bleak. When the world get to see your personality, bro, your life going to change, man. Like, why you don't put your personality in your music? And I'm like, nigga, I'm from the era where, and that mic, Mike cut on, we gang, gang, I ain't, no way, I ain't, I'm not buster.
Starting point is 01:09:29 I'm not luda, I'm not missy. Like, it just... And what you're saying about that is like a character figure. Like, you got serious. You don't want you to say that. If you say that, people don't take that the wrong way. No, they could take it how they want to take it. They was animated and doing, you know, entertainment.
Starting point is 01:09:42 They were entertaining. I'm not that type of entertainer. Yeah. But then when you fast forward, when you take a buster, you take a Missy, you take a ludicrous, and you build that up, You get a two chains. Right. Ah. A foot washed up a shoe with some bones in it.
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Starting point is 01:10:28 Using new scientific tools, they're finding clues in evidence so tiny you might just miss it. He never thought he was going to get caught, and I just looked at my computer screen, I was just like, ah, gotcha. On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors,
Starting point is 01:10:44 and you'll meet the team behind the scenes at Othrum, the Houston Lab that takes on the most hopeless cases, to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime, crime lab on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, it's AZ Fud. You may know me as a gold medalist. You may know me as an NCAA national champion and recent most outstanding player. You may even know me as a people's princess,
Starting point is 01:11:12 but now you're also going to know me as your favorite host. Every week on my new podcast, Fud around and find out, I'll give you an inside look at everything happening in my crazy light as I try to balance it all. From my travels across the globe to preparing for another run at the Natty with my Yukon Huskies to just try to make it to my midterms on time. You'll get the inside scoop on everything. I'll be talking to some special guests about pop culture, basketball, and what it's like to be a professional athlete on and off the court. You'll even get to have some fun with the FUD family.
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Starting point is 01:12:06 Opportunity is not. It's Black Business Month and Black Tech Green Money is tapping in. I'm Will Lucas spotlighting Black founders, investors, and innovators, building the future, one idea at a time. Let's talk legacy, tech, and generational wealth. I don't think any person of any gender, race, ethnicity should alter who they are, especially on an intellectual level or a talent level, to make someone else feel comfortable just because they are the majority in this situation and they need employment. So for me,
Starting point is 01:12:35 I'm always going to be honest in saying that we need to be unapologetically ourselves. If that makes me a vocal CEO and people consider that rocking the boat, so be it. To hear this and more on the power of black innovation and ownership, listen to Black Tech Green Money from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm sure she'd never come with a pause, but... Remember the Movie Pass era? Where you could watch all the movies you wanted for just $9? It made zero cents, and I could not stop thinking about it.
Starting point is 01:13:06 I'm Bridget Todd, host of the tech podcast, there are no girls on the internet. On this new season, I'm talking to the innovators who are left out of the tech headlines. Like the visionary behind a movie pass, Black founder Stacey Spikes, who was pushed out of Movie Pass, the company that he founded.
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Starting point is 01:13:55 So listen to there are no girls on the internet on the IHurt Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know what I'm saying? Two Chains is the one who I feel like, damn, I could have did it that way. Because when some be spitting,
Starting point is 01:14:10 I'd be like, he killed that. He's a funny motherfucker. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So when I hear him, it's like, I never thought about that, that angle of it. I thought about...
Starting point is 01:14:23 So they were telling you before that you needed to put more of your character into your right. Yeah, Jack Ben told me because he was like, yo, your personality, you one of a kind, there's nobody in the world like Bleak. So, it's so weird that after the pod drop, and I seen him at the Cowboy
Starting point is 01:14:37 Carter show in D.C., he was like... Nice floss. He was like... The right floss. Right force. He was like, yo, bleak, this is it, man. He was like years ago... Approved by him. Yeah, he's like, years ago, I thought it would come through the music. Take a shot for that. Give him a
Starting point is 01:14:53 shot. He don't got, let's get this. Give him a shot. I got a shot. No, no, no, I'm literally. This is a shot. You take your last shot. Your last shot. No, fuck that shot. DuCet, Bobby. He's like, this is half a Rock Solid. You're not doing it.
Starting point is 01:15:05 Do you say Tuesday. No, fuck that. Listen. So he was like, yo. He was like, you got the podcast like, and now they get to see what I saw. And he was like, bro, don't stop. I love what you doing.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Continue. He even was putting pressure on niggas in the room. I ain't going to say no names. But he was looking at that niggas. Hey, dog, y'all niggas better pull up. Pull up the rock solid. Lord. So say one name.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Nah, no, I can't show, nah. We see the pictures. Do we know the names? We know it. Everybody want to know when Jay coming to Rock Island. I told him whenever he got some shit to say, pull up, man, you know, my podcast is your podcast. Come through and talk that shit. You want to shit on niggas, come shit on them on my platform.
Starting point is 01:15:53 Right. Because I'm a shit on them with you. now that's a great segment because I know you off camera too and one you're the most loyalist person my brother you're real
Starting point is 01:16:12 and I know your love for Jay right? But Jay is at the level where he's so big right pause right he's so much of a character you know like untouchable like image right that everyone wants to go
Starting point is 01:16:28 out there because they know if one lucky guy gets him to respond they might have a career out of that but how you get a career of a nigga shitting on you no but what I'm asking you is with your loyalty and
Starting point is 01:16:45 you know y'all really grew up in the same building you from 3D he's from 5E or 5C 5C I'm from 5E yeah um not in y'all build it you know my building but um has it ever been a time
Starting point is 01:17:01 like where you've seen somebody say something one that wasn't incorrect or you just seen somebody that said something that wasn't qualified and you
Starting point is 01:17:13 you wanted to say something back but then you it was people telling you yo chill hold back you know everybody the whole industry Any of these niggas that ever talk shit
Starting point is 01:17:25 I'd be ready to, you know But niggies tell me, hey, dog Don't pay them no attention, you know what I'm saying? Like, we bigger than that. We don't got to respond to that. Like, you know what I mean? The best form of The best response is no response Because it drives a madman crazy.
Starting point is 01:17:42 You know what I'm saying? So, but on my, on my end, like I'd be wanting to fire out all these niggas, because none of these niggas is built like they say they are, bro. Like, I see all these niggas in the street and it's Like, y'all think y'all cool with me, but you want to shit on the bro? Right.
Starting point is 01:17:58 Y'all niggas is soft. Like, because if I'm a shit on a nigger, your whole team getting shitted on. I'm not cool with one nigger out of the team. Like, oh, bleak, it's nothing with you. But, nah, nigger, it's something with everybody. Right. And I'll be, but it's just, you know, we from that cloth where we ain't going to expose who we are or our feelings to the media, bro. we ain't we ain't gonna crash out like these young boys say i'm not on a crash out mom
Starting point is 01:18:27 these niggas is crash dummy so we let them strap up put their seatbelt on right yeah yeah fuck that but i definitely be one you know that marsy nigger that young nigga that be like man i slap this nigga like that should definitely be yeah be there like y'all digers is playing with me man like you playing with the team like we ain't really been outside or we ain't we with them niggas that really, come on, man. Like, everybody got a crew of them niggas. Right. But niggas better not forget, man.
Starting point is 01:18:59 Right. This is Marcy, man. You niggas could not come, man. And we still with them guys. You want a shot for that? Of course, man. No, no, no. Not for that. No, this is a shot. This is a shot. Tiny shot. Because I'm fucking lit.
Starting point is 01:19:12 Yeah, that's right. And they just might not fucking forget. No, no, no. Give me a tiny shot. I got it. I got it. Nah, cool, man. They got me talking. Let's see that one else, so we can throw that one. They got me talking shit.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Yeah, that's it. That's it. That's it. That's the last one. Look, that do say, that great duce. Oh, there's go. That's going to, sir. You're a haiku, salo.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Salute. Trust me. Wait, but how does it feel now be on the opposite end interviewing people? Because you used to as an artist being interviewed. And is it weird because it's your peers, too? That at first felt weird, like talking to free, talking to Chris talking to Just Blaze, young guru, asking them questions. It's like, I know some of these answers, but the fans want to know, I still got to ask.
Starting point is 01:20:01 So then it felt weird now. I feel like after I look at what's going on and I look at the podcast platform and the media platform, I realize something. A lot of these guys that I'm bringing on the show would not have been interviewed. Like when the last time you've seen a young Chris, or Freeway, a DJ Franzin, a pain in the ass interview. That's how we felt in the
Starting point is 01:20:27 beginning of the drink chat. You know what I mean? But it's different on my perspective because I feel like these guys would have never been interview. And also your show was based on the label. Like so this But what I'm saying from my perspective is
Starting point is 01:20:42 if young Chris and Freeway not shitting on Jay or Bing's, nobody want to talk to them. It's nothing to go viral. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Like, young Chris been writing for a lot of artists in this gang, putting out records. He just dropped the album with him and Dave East.
Starting point is 01:21:01 You know, he lived. You know what I'm saying? Him and Dave East. Yeah, like, no one would have interviewed them. So that's why I feel like I'm giving voices to the underdogs, man. Niggas that ain't trying to go viral for some whole shit or because you did them wrong or you crossed me. It's like, dog, I'm really working, man.
Starting point is 01:21:18 And there's people out here that want to hear the hard work. work, the grind, and don't care about the antics, the after-hour bullshit. You know what I'm saying? So I think my platform covers that. You know what I'm saying? Like. So who's your dream guest right now? Of course, man.
Starting point is 01:21:40 I want Hove to come sit up there. We know that. And we also. Besides Hoare. Yeah, but I want, I want niggas to see how me and Hove relationship is. What do you think is the percentage of that actually happening soon? sooner than later. I'm about 65%. In the positive? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Okay. Hell yeah. Hope pulling up. I don't care if I got to kidnap that nigga. He's pulling up. Don't be mad if we pull up and it's a collab episode. I don't care. I'll be in the crowd like this. Yeah, but I just want people to see our relationship because for years, I think people get the concept that I grew up with, like we hung together.
Starting point is 01:22:17 I'm like the little bro. The age difference, right. Yeah, like, I'm the little homie, like, go play. And even to this day, that nigger looked at me like, I told Hope, right, at the Cowboy Carter Show in Vegas, I'm like, yo, I just opened up an Italian restaurant out here in Vegas called Roma Kitchen, and we opened up a bar called Tuscan Cove. Pull up, my G, come through.
Starting point is 01:22:40 I shut it down for you. He's laughing at me. Ah! You ain't got no, you ain't got no sauce, nigger, whatever. So we get to the show, Mama Love Pull Up. You know, Miss Carter, the lovely queen, his sister, nephews, everybody. They're like, yo, we just came from the restaurant. She's fire.
Starting point is 01:23:04 I look at him like, you can't pull up, though, and Mama Love pulled up. So, yeah, now I think he notably got the sauce, man. You know what I'm saying? I got the sauce for real. We out there in Vegas, kill it. Shout out my dog, friend, C, my partner out there and my dog Steve, man, you know? We cook it, so you don't want to take your kids on vacation. Bring them to Roma kitchen.
Starting point is 01:23:37 Talk about myself over there. Bring them to Tuscan Cove. We got the pool. I get you a nice bungalow patio, get you some service at the pool. You know what I'm saying? Come fuck with us, dog. We got vacation in America But you didn't answer though
Starting point is 01:23:56 Besides hope who's the next dream guest Snoot Snoop dog Because I don't think niggas understand the relationship Me and Snoop dog And I got And I don't think niggas understand the drama Snoop don't even know the beef I got with him
Starting point is 01:24:11 I guess you're gonna know that Because he got to come on the show So we can fix this shit But you got to explain this shit. That nigga smoked me out twice. Okay. I thought I'm the smoke guard. Nobody could smoke blizzle under the table.
Starting point is 01:24:26 I hung with snoo twice. I had to quit. Tap out. Like, yo, wrestler. Tag out. I say it on the show. That nigga kept going and kept going. We smoked so much you can see the smoke in the air floating.
Starting point is 01:24:39 And I knew I was high. Like, I never saw smoke unless it was a fire. So it's drama. I need Snoop to pull up. We got to re-battle. Oh, y'all going to battle. What was your story? Can we take up?
Starting point is 01:24:54 I got a pitch. We got to take it. Yeah, go ahead, man. Rockside. Mix some of those, Rock, right? Yo, but hold on, hold on. I just came back. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:25:08 We had a little bathroom break. But my man got the blunt roller. Oh. Can we talk? A little business on air? Like, you talk financials on air? No. How much you play?
Starting point is 01:25:19 No. How much you played? Because I'm trying to hire one. He got them on retainer. He got them on retainer. He got a one of retainer. I want to know what the budget is. We're going to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:25:29 You got to go to Peru. Peru? They got them. You bring them back. I brought them back legally because it's nice. He bought them back from Peru. Oh, yeah. I'm going to go steal me a dick.
Starting point is 01:25:38 Yo, we need a D.R. dick. You know, that's really the motherfuckersers that really the motherfuckers that really Yeah, yeah, y'all, baby, Dominican Republic. Get over it. Because that's what I'm asking the fans right now. I don't know. Yeah, I got one job opening for Rock Solid podcast, the Blunt Roller.
Starting point is 01:25:56 That's the one job opening. Yeah, we ain't got, every other job is there in covering. We good. I took a shot for that. I took a shot for that. The Blunt Roller. I asked Norrie one day, you know, why you got to, he told me, you see the watches I wear, I can't be rolling no way.
Starting point is 01:26:14 He did not say that. I definitely didn't say that, but it's okay. Yes, you did. No, I'm not all my fat joke. God, I lost it. Hell no. You might have said that under certain circumstances. You definitely, at the last drink champs,
Starting point is 01:26:30 yes, at the last drink champs, he was getting the cut and the manicure. And the homie put the wheat, all the bloods rolled up. And I said, yo, I never got a manicure. I'm like, yo. You've never. You don't be wrong with?
Starting point is 01:26:43 No one's never had to me. get a manicure. You get your shit, you get a manicure. Look at him, look at him.
Starting point is 01:26:49 He looks like a guy. That's to even speak English. You know what? You know what? That's
Starting point is 01:26:54 cleaning my finger in there. Yeah, I'm going to get a manicure, all that. I do that with the wife. You bugging.
Starting point is 01:26:59 See, I used to be like that. Tap in, huh? But then I just, you know, I just tell you that. I just, you know.
Starting point is 01:27:05 I ain't have one in a minute. I ain't have one in a minute because you know, yo, listen, that's the fucked up shit about marriage, right?
Starting point is 01:27:11 When you, everything good, wife, he set up mad appointments for you. You got a doctor's appointment. You got a dentist appointment. You got your dad and feet done. As soon as you pissed them off, nothing to set up anymore. You got to set up shit just to. I can relate. Take a shot.
Starting point is 01:27:30 Take a shot. Or a drink. And she fucked up. I can relate. When you pissed them off, you got to set up all the point. You miss it every appointment because you know you don't remember. what you set up. Hell fucking on.
Starting point is 01:27:43 No, we got an announcement, don't we? Y'all, yeah, this is dope, man. Especially from Brooklyn, especially for New York City, especially for hip-hop. Our brother, Buster Rhyms, 1 million percent. It's getting a star in the Hollywood. Boom.
Starting point is 01:27:58 Oh, God. Do you change alumni. No, listen. I call it. That's so fire. Buster is a major legend, and when I think of longevity, you have to put Buster in.
Starting point is 01:28:11 leaders of the new school. And his blessings don't stop. So he like, neither. Like, that shit is insane, man. To get a star in the Hollywood world. That's a blessing, man. You know what I'm saying? Buster, congratulations.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Yeah, man. Yeah, man. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. That's major. Yeah, that is so beautiful, man. Shout out to Buster Bust. Taking a shot for you, brother.
Starting point is 01:28:35 Salo. Yo, y'all hood, chill. I know my man going to be mad at me for bringing this up, but this drink champs. That's what I can't talk about this type of shit of rock solid so we're going to talk about
Starting point is 01:28:46 Remember this is in Rock Salon too? Yeah, but this is a collaboration so y'all hold somebody to wait. If I do it by myself, then I got a I'm not beefed all over. We're going to have beef together. Yo. But you thought about Jim Joe
Starting point is 01:29:02 saying he better than knives. No, I respect He's spoken about it. Listen, I respect his You know MC Barado? No, you got to, you know, confident You thought you was better than Nas at one point
Starting point is 01:29:17 Yeah, but you tried to shit on me Yeah, but you tried to shit on me He started to hold me Yeah, you can't even ask You gotta know where Jim Jones is coming from You gotta know I think you're the reason why he says relax Yes, out of everybody you got to know
Starting point is 01:29:32 Yeah, now I feel I'm flogging him That's why he got to come on the show Because we both better than Nyes That's the name of the episode We both better with that one I'm running with that one Holy shit I don't know how this is winning
Starting point is 01:30:00 How do we segue from that? But Nott's been spending some shit on these albums Like Nogne's been like I guess he listened to us like, I'm a shit on these young guys. Now, I'm just consistent, man. Yeah, the Clips album, he murdered that verse.
Starting point is 01:30:15 Ray Quorn album, oh my God. Top the bottom, shout out Ray, shout out Clips. Them albums is fire. Hip hop is back. Old heads is letting you young y'nics, no, you can't fuck with us. We care rating this motherfucker now. That's a fact. We bring it right back.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Yeah, we're curating this motherfucker. Yeah, we let niggas no. I'm going to throw my hat in the game. You got to just tell somebody you better than them. Because that's what's making nice. Wait, damn. Jones put the pressure. You don't know the time line of that.
Starting point is 01:30:40 Nah, he put the pressure. Nah. You don't know the timeline. That first could have been done already. Yeah. He, no, a leaked verse got leaked, and then he went and changed it. Oh, he changed it up? Oh, he closed on this guy?
Starting point is 01:30:55 Yeah, yeah, yeah, pressure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See? Wow. Jimmy was on to some. Yeah. See? Rock silent.
Starting point is 01:31:05 We both fed in a lot. You know what's the crazy thing? I love it so much because it's fucking so hip-hop. Like, whichever way you look at this, this angle, it's hip-hop. So hip-hop wins regardless. That's right. It's like, fucking, I love it. That's a fact, man.
Starting point is 01:31:23 This shit only, niggas is bullshit, man. Nogh's no, they ain't better than Nage. Yeah, everybody. We hope we better than Daz, but. Yeah. That's it. And Niz got some shit. And Niz and who old was both.
Starting point is 01:31:37 battling for a casino Yeah, man They're only two niggas that can really battle and talk about each other There's nobody That's it, that's it That's the new Jay Z and Nasbee
Starting point is 01:31:47 Yeah, casino beef That's what I'm saying That's fire Nah, let me pick up them niggas Now that was called The casino's a different spots Right One in man and one in queen
Starting point is 01:31:56 Right They battle with a casino So they're not really battling No I'm making that up I'm making that up But the fact is That they both
Starting point is 01:32:04 Like you know Different levels And different levels Yeah. They're doing the same moves. It's crazy. Separate block.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Right. It's no problem. I wonder if they're collaborating behind the scenes. I don't know. I'm not down. Because I'm saying, imagine them sharing information
Starting point is 01:32:20 about what they're dealing with. I used to have part of the old Luminati. Because I'm better than Nyes. I got to go viral two. Fuck. We're going to cut that out. Right.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Man serious. Yo, they said I'm number 125 on a live. list just cut it. When they say one twin, they'd be like five, and you're number five. I got to edit it. You got to take another drink. I'm taking a shot. You took a drink. Oh, it's true enough. A foot washed up a shoe with some bones in it. They had no idea who it was.
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Starting point is 01:33:43 Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, it's AZ Fudd. You may know me as a gold medalist. You may know me as an NCAA national champion and recent most outstanding player. You may even know me as a People's Princess, but now you're also going to know me as your favorite host. Every week on my new podcast, podcast, Fud around and find out. I'll give you an inside look at everything happening in my crazy life as I try to balance it all. From my travels across the globe to preparing for another run at the Natty with my Yukon Huskies to just try to make it to my midterms on time. You'll get the inside scoop on everything. I'll be talking to some special guests about pop culture,
Starting point is 01:34:23 basketball, and what it's like to be a professional athlete on and off the court. You'll even get to have some fun with the Fudd family. So if you follow me on social media or watch me on TV, you may think you know me, but this show is the only place where you can really fud around and find out. Listen to fud around and find out, a production of IHeart women's sports and partnership with unanimous media on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. We all know, right? Genius is evenly distributed. Opportunity is not. It's Black Business Month and Black Tech Green Money is tapping in. I'm Will Lucas spotlighting Black founders, investors, and innovators.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Building the future, one idea at a time. Let's talk legacy, tech, and generational wealth. I don't think any person of any gender, race, ethnicity should alter who they are, especially on an intellectual level or a talent level, to make someone else feel comfortable just because they are the majority in this situation and they need employment.
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Starting point is 01:35:43 Adventure should never come with a pause button. Remember the movie pass era where you could watch all the movies you wanted for just $9? It made zero cents and I could not stop thinking about it. I'm Bridget Todd, host of the tech podcast, there are no girls on the internet. On this new season, I'm talking to the innovators who are left out of the tech headlines, like the visionary behind. Behind a movie pass, Black founder Stacey Spikes, who was pushed out of movie pass the company that he founded. His story is wild that it's currently the subject of a juicy new HBO documentary.
Starting point is 01:36:15 We dive into how culture connects us. When you go to France, or you go to England, or you go to Hong Kong, those kids are wearing Jordans. They're wearing Kobe's shirt. They're watching Black Panther. And the challenges of being a Black Bounder. Close your eyes and tell me what a take. tech founder looks like. They're not going to describe someone who looks like me and they're not going to describe someone who looks like you. I created there are no girls on the internet because
Starting point is 01:36:41 the future belongs to all of us. So listen to there are no girls on the internet on the IHurt Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You guys add it. They're going to be like bleak number 125 in the game. Then you're like number five added one twent out. So let me ask you, one time we had you on the podcast. You said you met game. One time. But it was smoke when I met game. It was like he dissed me 7,000 times. It was like, I want to know why. Seven thousand times?
Starting point is 01:37:10 No. I met him twice. He dissed the young gunners after he met the young gunners. I only met him twice, yo. And that's a funny story, right? Yeah, I remember that. That was so bad. You told him.
Starting point is 01:37:22 You know, listen, right? Uh-huh. So, listen, I meet J.T. Bigger figure in L.A. I had no idea who the game was. Nothing, but I knew who J.T. was because it was smoke. they thought I stole get low from them. But it wasn't nothing like that.
Starting point is 01:37:37 Me and J.T., we kicked it, put piece to, you know, piece it up, whatever. So he was like, yo, it wasn't me dissing you. It's this nigga named Game Disseon You from L.A. Now, mind you, game hasn't dropped yet. So I'm like, I don't know who the game is. Some unreleased nigga dissing me from L.A. What can I do? Whatever.
Starting point is 01:37:56 So I see Game in L.A. But mind you, I don't know who he is. Me and my man, B.I., We sit in LA, backstage. You know, we at the tent, we had the trailer, but we sitting outside the trailer in, like, some lawn chairs, blowing it down. A nigger walked up on me like, yo, yo, bleak, what up, fan? I want to introduce myself to you, my name, the gang.
Starting point is 01:38:18 So I'm like, click, click, click. Oh, this the nigger, they said this to me. So I stand up, fan. Why are you dissing me? Why are you? So he like, yo, bleak, I ain't diss you. I never shitted on you. So I'm like, he showed mad love, everything.
Starting point is 01:38:32 Right, but he was saying he never diss me So I'm like, all right, it's all loved it. You ain't diss me? Cool, my niggas, love is peace. Yo, my nigga, it's like As I was on the flight going home, he must have booked the studio session and did 45 disses.
Starting point is 01:38:51 And that's six hours and take the fly from L.A. to New York when I led? Yo, my nigga, I had about 20 disses. Yo, bleak nigga, kid that you. Who? Nicking named the game. I just met homie
Starting point is 01:39:05 So I ain't know Was this before I met him Or after I had no clue So I'm like I'm gonna let it ride But then like 20 more discs came out I was like god damn This thing in the studio every day
Starting point is 01:39:19 So It was one time Jay was going to He was being nominated for some MTV award And I'm looking at he like Yo the game is nominated So I told Jay you I got to go to Miami with you He's like I ain't And this before I knew
Starting point is 01:39:32 any of the homies out here, right? I have no homies in Miami. Me and my man for the projects, my man, little leaky, chic, flew out here, Dolo. We had no homies to call and be like, bring the pistol, pick us up. We
Starting point is 01:39:50 fucking rent a car. You know, I have no gun license. So this is really some story I never told nobody. We go to some knife store. I bought the in this Rambo knife. Shit that went down your leg
Starting point is 01:40:06 had it on my hip like a shotgun. You look out of machete. So we ride around all night looking for the game. We're going to find this nigga. He dissing me? What? Where are you at? We never seen the game, right? We, end of the night.
Starting point is 01:40:22 We like, yo, let's go back to the hotel. Fuck it. We ain't see the homie. And man. It's just me and my little man. We ain't deep. We ain't nothing. Just me and hip. We all out here on demon time. We get to hotel. Who in front of the hotel? Games with security.
Starting point is 01:40:39 So I'm in the car. I'm like, yo, dude, go right there. We jump out the car. All his security guards was Dame's security at at the studios. Dame used to be at. So when they saw me, they like, Bleak, what up, my nigga? Nah, nigger ain't no time for that. So they're like, yo, what's
Starting point is 01:40:54 up? Who front of you? This nigga right here. And them niggas like, yo son, nah, you can't front or bleak. Like his security guard sell him. You can't front of all bleak. That's the homie. So he's like, yo, bleak, let's, you know, we kicked it.
Starting point is 01:41:10 It wasn't nothing. But I still never got to the bottom on why he dissed me. But he a cool nigger. Like when I met him, it was nothing. He was like it was just some rap shit. It is what it is. Like me, I never been on that. Yo, I want to prove I'm the best.
Starting point is 01:41:27 So I'm a diss anybody who I feel like it's competition. Game is on that. shit and he lyrically nice I'm never going to take that away from him he's nice he put on for the west he do his thing but that's just not my thing to be like yo fuck it let's battle I'm I'm trying to make this money my
Starting point is 01:41:44 thing I'm not trying to prove I'm the illest lyricist but I'm better than I'm better than I yeah you was going to say something about gang what was the question you was going to ask me about the homie? No With me, I want them to come on Rock Solid
Starting point is 01:42:04 Because I want to ask them Yeah, we gotta get to the bottom of that story I want game So game, where's my camera? It's my camera, right? Rame's always with my camera This is my nigga I want to know
Starting point is 01:42:16 Game, we would love the shit Yeah, I want to know, damn, Don't, you know, rock solid Will you go to Cali to do that? I go anywhere Yeah, yo my nigga I want to ask Cam I want to ask Jimmy, I want
Starting point is 01:42:28 ask Cam, yo Game, yo cup Yo, I got niggas this me, blah? What I did to you, blood? So you don't know. Like, you're not playing. Me and Jimmy was in the studio gambling, losing money to each other.
Starting point is 01:42:43 And the next thing I heard, man, Bleak don't want no beef. Like, Nick, I want my money back. Fuck you mean, I want no beef? I just lost some bread. What fuck you're talking about? And him, I didn't know him, bro. So when I met him, he was like,
Starting point is 01:42:57 yo, it's some East Coast, West Coast. They said, you that nigga from the East. So I, you know, I'm the new nigga from the West. I just want to let niggins know if you can't fuck with me. Yeah, game saying this to me. And I'm like, don't give a- before he's on G-Unit, right? No, he was on G-U-N.
Starting point is 01:43:10 I'm like, man, I don't give a fuck about who from, who, who, from where. I'm trying to get this money, nigga. I don't want to prove I'm the best hair there. Nigga, I'm me and this is Marcy. Either it's smoke or it's not. Because if it's just some rap shit, I don't want to do it. You need that rock solid podcast. You need that game, rock, rock, solid.
Starting point is 01:43:31 got to pull up. Yeah, that's fine. So now, let me ask you the million other question. What's up? If you had a chance. And I'm saying this, maybe naive-ish, and maybe just hypothetic-ish. Excuse me.
Starting point is 01:43:57 You had a chance, and you had. Hove and Biggs, right? And then Dame texts you and say I'm in the back door. Like, I don't know. Let y'all at Kelly Rollins.
Starting point is 01:44:17 Would I go get them and let them in? Yeah, let me finish my question. Yeah, I'm just, I'm trying to see where you go on with this. But that's exactly where I'm going. Okay. So let's move like, all right. You heard Dame is in a neighborhood. Yeah, I go to Kelly Roll.
Starting point is 01:44:37 I'm just giving you. That's the first name I thought of, right? Yeah, Kelly Rowland. Shout out Kelly Rowland. She's about to go on tour. Yeah, that's fine. I've seen the Destiny Child look. That was hard.
Starting point is 01:44:46 That was major. So, let's suppose Kelly Roland hit you. Now, Biggs and Dave. Excuse me, Biggs and Jay's there. She gets the text from Dame. Dame was like, yo, you know, I'm outside. job right there. Would I let them in?
Starting point is 01:45:07 Do blizzle going to get him? Because, oh, shit. No, no, no. Let me not interrogate the witness. That's what you do he says? No, I know. Don't lead the witness. Let him answer the question.
Starting point is 01:45:18 It's all good. My nigga, like, first of all, I would ask. I would ask the big homie. I would let him know. Yo, fam, such and such outside. He said, you know what I mean? Can I come get him? and if the big homie gave the green light that he have no issue with it it's not a problem
Starting point is 01:45:35 it's not it's not it's not gonna fuck up his comfort zone then yeah a hundred thousand percent I've been in that situation before bro not the exact situation no I've been in that situation with a few niggas man like you know what I'm saying I'm about that exactly yeah no that type of situation like I remember when the um what is it the fanatic shit in New York. The first event was last year in New York. Right. You know what I mean? And I'm walking in the spot and I seen
Starting point is 01:46:07 Neef and Freeway. And it was like, yo, bleak. Like, yo, what's up? Can we get in? And I'm like, you know, this shit is some like invite list shit only. But let me go in and make sure the dogs everything is cool and it's like okay. And when I went and told
Starting point is 01:46:24 the big home, he's like, niggas you crazy? Of course. Let the homies. And I went back out and got them. But you always He's got to make sure that the family is cool because the love I got for these guys, I'm going to look out for them no matter what. I'm always trying to, even if, even if Hope say no, right? And we, he might not, I might not get him in backstage with us, but I put him in somewhere in the show, you know what you can, right?
Starting point is 01:46:48 Because I'm not one to see none of my niggas down bad or outside looking like they behind the velvet rope. You know what I'm saying? Like, so my question, yeah, I would get damn in. Let me ask you, from your point of view, do you ever foresee a future where... No. No? Hove and Dame.
Starting point is 01:47:08 Never speak? Yeah. No. I feel like a line was crossed, man. Too much... You don't see no future where that happens. Too much... Here's the reason why I ask.
Starting point is 01:47:19 If you said you'll get them backstage now... No, I didn't say I'll get them backstage. Only if the comfort level was at yellow. Oh, okay. But other than that, I put them in Ro 12. You said you asked first. Yeah, I put him in road 12. He had you taking them backstage, holding them by then, walking them in.
Starting point is 01:47:35 Niggas crossed the line that's no return, bro. You know, them all the dialogue, interviews, like, I don't know how much niggas get paid for that shit or whatever, but it's like when you speak on personal issues, a man's kids, a man integrity, and you know, niggas going through cases and shit, and you speaking on that, it's like, it's no return from that, bro. It's like, that's the last, that's the bus. button. But they say George Bush the button? That's the button, nigger.
Starting point is 01:48:05 What? How do you even talk to a nigger about a nigger who talked about him like that? I don't even know how to bring that conversation up to a man. Like, you know, that's been ridiculed and dragged through the media by a nigger that you called your bro that would question your integrity.
Starting point is 01:48:23 How do you even bring that up? Like, I told you, I went to Vegas with the intentions on, you know, I'm an ax, niggas, can I, you know? And then the first thing was bought up to me was like, yo, you sing this interview, it's like, let me shut up. Don't even bring it up, Blake. So it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, is, it's, is, it's,
Starting point is 01:48:42 but I feel like the grave was dug, but a lot of these niggas through the dirt on their self. But what is your personal, uh, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, if you, wanted everything to be in a perfect world? Oh, I want it back the way it was. Oh, that will never happen. No, that's what I told you.
Starting point is 01:49:08 No, but I wanted it to back the way it was. But let me get you a perfect world. In my perfect world, Rockefeller would have never broke up, man. To me, when Rockefeller broke up, this is what I want people to know, right? I was the kids straight from junior high school to high school, to roll it with the homies, to it finally taken off. So I never saw the team not being together. So that was like, even when Jay used to say certain shit to me,
Starting point is 01:49:39 was like, ah, whatever, these the homies, this family, we're going to figure it out. So when the breakup and all that shit really happened, I feel like that magic trip. You know, when the magician have all the glasses and the silverware, everything on the table, and he just pulled the tablecloth. Everything is still the same. but the tablecloth is going That's what I feel like the breakup was
Starting point is 01:50:03 You didn't feel it happened We was all still in the same position But it's obvious But you felt the change You knew something was different And that's how I feel So in the perfect world In my world
Starting point is 01:50:17 I wouldn't want the tablecloth back You know what I'm saying Because even Memphis bleak man My career was a demise of the breakup You know I still felt like I had more to give in the Rockefeller tank. And you're saying you really didn't see it coming? No, I saw it coming.
Starting point is 01:50:34 I heard it, but you never could prepare. I was a kid, bro. So I wasn't, even when I was, you know, when the breakup happened, I was 24 years old, 25 years old. In reality, yeah, I'm a grown-up, but I wasn't prepared, and there's no way to prepare for something that you did your whole life.
Starting point is 01:50:52 Right, right. Like, you know, there was no, yo, what I'm going to do next. This is all I do. you know what I'm saying like so it fucked everybody up bro it wasn't easy even for hove like niggas look at it like he made more
Starting point is 01:51:08 money became a billionaire did this this why he cut niggas off but at the end of the day you got to close those deals and you got to put yourself in a position to be worth those deals so it wasn't easy you didn't get there just by like yo if you if you sell Rockefeller we give you
Starting point is 01:51:24 a billion dollars it don't work like that you still had to grind and make yourself put yourself on the playing field to be in that market so it worked out you know i'm happy at the end of the table here we are but shit could have been the other way fantastic fantastico yeah i'll take a couple more shots do you know what i'm gonna take a peepie God's beliefs Is that You're gonna have a socket
Starting point is 01:51:58 You're gonna finish that joint Yeah Yeah Yeah Then I might I might jog after this Oh you wild for that Yeah
Starting point is 01:52:08 Loz is he really gonna jog after this Yo Now I can do a fast walk But running You said you ran Because niggas still said Hey Whoever go to the store last
Starting point is 01:52:20 Oh yeah That was Dad was running in the strength of Mama. He was running just on the strip of me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just to run. Nah, I never got chased. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:32 I just know. I could walk fast. I walk fast. I know speed walking. Oh, shit. I can't. Come on. I can't.
Starting point is 01:52:39 Do safe mafia. Don't let us down. Please don't let us down. Oh, listen. Listen, you see the bean. Come on, bro. You know, come on, bro. You know, you see the bean is out.
Starting point is 01:52:50 You see the bean is out. When the bean is out. When the bean is out, we got the bean. I'm done, cuck. Come on. Yeah, me too. I'm glad you said it. After this piss.
Starting point is 01:53:00 Alright, good. Yeah. You got a shit. Talks about take a shot. What happened? No more shots. No more shots. I'm fucking lit right now.
Starting point is 01:53:10 Honestly, I never even actually seen them a little tipsy like that. Oh, I fucking smack you right now. Listen, we having fun. Hell yeah, my dick. You know it. We still winning. And we're celebrating. Celebrating.
Starting point is 01:53:22 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Corrine. You better be still filming. Because all I got is I got like about 12 more minutes. You mean 12 more shots probably. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:53:36 But 10 minutes left on you, but 12 more shots. Let's go. Because you know why? Let me tell you so. I'm so proud of my brother, Blake. My brother. He did this shit.
Starting point is 01:53:47 And no controversy. He didn't diss no one. so many people like I said this where's has that he's right in front of you want you want you to load up relax what did we say you said a hundred million views for the record homes and we ain't had to fight or get naked homes that's right we just praised our legends that's right and we're really jeans damn you want to be done you know listen listen I'm glad you bought that up No, no, don't do that.
Starting point is 01:54:23 It's my man right here, watch guard. This is Watcham. That's his name should be called Watchum. He shouldn't be even named Dory. He should be called Watcher. What he do is fly around and buy watches.
Starting point is 01:54:36 They got exclusives. When your watch match your outfit. Now, the watches ain't like him around. You're in water bottle? Yeah what I'm saying? You heard the watches fly him around. The watches fly him around. Let's take a shot for that.
Starting point is 01:54:49 Yeah, take a shot for the watch game. You're taking a shot? I'm even one of y'all taking shots. I've been drinking. What, shots? You're just doing, that's what you're drinking. Yeah, that shit like water. Come at.
Starting point is 01:54:59 I think you take a shot to water. He's lying, uh, because I'm fucking smack. No, it's not water. You know it. It's good. We should have all stayed on that shit. This is the cleanest alcohol you ever drink. I mean.
Starting point is 01:55:11 How much they pay? How much they pay to be talked about? The Rizza told him, and he's like, I'm in. Oh, shit. Heavenly Sake. You know if the Rizza, that's just straight from Japan. That's no. We drank that on the Rizza episode.
Starting point is 01:55:23 Yeah, a monk made that shit. I'm fucking with the other movies. Yeah. You got it in your last ones. Shit, rock solid is the movement gig. You're used to it and get fucking winning, man. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to drink champs that way.
Starting point is 01:55:40 Yo, I'm going to always come to drink champs because I can talk my shit over there. I can't talk shit over there. You can't talk shit over there. You just got to get comfortable. After you get comfortable. Because, listen, somebody. is going to say to you. Someone's going to say that you are
Starting point is 01:55:53 old and you know what you're going to do? What? Shut up the cameras. Nah, nah, nah, no, no. And we're going to be like, nah, the one nigger who can't do and went crazy, I can't wait for them to see the Saigon episode, man.
Starting point is 01:56:08 Shout out to Saigon. Shout out to Saigon. No, no, no, I'm talking about somebody. Somebody, somebody going to go, you know, you're the biggest in the game. Somebody going to go at y'all. You're going to know his M.O. But by the way, do we have
Starting point is 01:56:21 sauce money coming up? I'm trying to get source money, man. I've been working on it. You got to have sauce money. I spoke to him. He said, you know, he's dealing with some life issue.
Starting point is 01:56:30 He said once he get right, he's going to holler at the dog. But he definitely on debt. And we should have had him on drink champs a long time ago, too. I hate that rumor. Yeah, he thought he was banned, but I had to let him. No, not at all.
Starting point is 01:56:42 I called him. When Norrie told me, I called and told him, like, bro, that's no way. So that's why I'm glad I got my part to give these guys their voices so they could come up to speak their truth and let the world know what's up and what they're into, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:56:55 Because on Rock Island, man, like, sauce money, he wanted them guys, man. Like, I feel like sauce, Jazzo. Yeah, you're going to have Jazzo? Of course, I got to have Jazzo up there. That's fire. This shit, I'm high, man. I think it's a violated.
Starting point is 01:57:11 Yeah, but Jazzo. You're in the safe zone. Jazzo got to come on Rock Silent. Because Jazzo used to front on me as a kid. I used to ask that nigger for pointers. Yo, bro, how you write a hook? How you know what 16 is? And he only had one response.
Starting point is 01:57:28 He was like a monk. Yo, just keep writing. You had to learn by experience. Right. So just write the never-end-in-this story? You never heard how he learned? How he learned bars? Yo, I used to ask jazz for bad pointers.
Starting point is 01:57:43 Nicker like, yo, just keep writing. It's like, God damn, I'm never going to stop. A foot washed up a shoe with some bones in it. They had no idea who it was. Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable. These are the coldest of cold cases, but everything is about to change. Every case that is a cold case that has DNA. Right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime.
Starting point is 01:58:13 A small lab in Texas is cracking the code on DNA. Using new scientific tools, they're finding clues in evidence so tiny you might just miss it. He never thought he was going to get caught, and I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha. On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors, and you'll meet the team behind the scenes at Othrum, the Houston Lab that takes on the most hopeless cases, to finally solve the unsolvable.
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Starting point is 01:59:10 everything happening in my crazy life as I try to balance it all. From my travels across the globe to preparing for another run at the Nadi with my Yukon Huskies to just try to make it to my midterms on time. You'll get the inside scoop on everything. I'll be talking to some special guests about pop culture, basketball, and what it's like to be a professional athlete on and off the court. You'll even get to have some fun with the fud family. So if you follow me on social media or watch me on TV, you may think you know me.
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Starting point is 02:00:39 from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Adventure should never come with a pause button. Remember the Movie Pass era, where you could watch all the movies you wanted for just $9? It made zero cents, and I could not stop thinking about it. I'm Bridget Todd, host of the tech podcast, there are no girls on the internet. On this new season, I'm talking to the innovators who are left out of the tech headlines. Like the visionary behind a movie pass, Black founder Stacey Spikes, who was pushed out of MoviePass, the company that he founded. His story is wild, and it's currently the subject of a junior.
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Starting point is 02:01:40 I created there are no girls on the internet because the future belongs to all of us. So listen to There are no girls on the internet on the IHurt Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's your last words, Lord? No, man, my last words is, I'm going over vacation and us. What are you playing, bro? That's my grandson. Oh, okay. Oh, oh.
Starting point is 02:02:05 I got a grandson. Yeah, man. Congratulations. Your Granddaddy, no. Yeah, Daddy, Norrie. You know what I mean? Yo, I'm going to be real. You're not a real
Starting point is 02:02:16 You're not a real grandfather I'm gonna say a CNN grandfather If he'll teach his grandson Put the bogey in his face Make him ashtray face You gotta teach your bow I'm teaching my grandson How to run miles
Starting point is 02:02:35 Go on see now man Yeah I'm gonna throw that little nigga Let's go Come on relax buddy Oh I tell that nigga Listen listen let me teach you Let me teach you say something.
Starting point is 02:02:46 I believe the reason why I'm doing what I'm doing right now is because what I saw my father back then in the four vision. And the vision that I couldn't see. You know what I'm saying? I got you. In vision. I'm from a hood, niggas. So let me get the four vision. Yeah, we're from across the street. Not
Starting point is 02:03:04 the street, the street. Go ahead. So I want him, and he knows me. He knows my smile. He knows everything. What I want to remember to know is also, I'm going to show him this other life This is a life that I feel like It's saving my life
Starting point is 02:03:19 Right What? Jogging That ain't saved your life You just started jogging Relax Come on my man Yo
Starting point is 02:03:28 No he's been jogging He's been jogging He's just now he's making it popular For himself Like he's putting it out there Three years No no longer than that Not for real
Starting point is 02:03:38 No no No No I got at least 2012 On record You've been running since 2012? On record. That's on record. All right, cool. I ain't jealous
Starting point is 02:03:47 no more than. I was hating. I was hating. How the fuck this thing could run this long? He's been bothering us to run with him. Running. Like, there's nothing talking while he running. I was hating. Have you been doing this since 2012? Let me put some respect on you. That's just on record. But, you know,
Starting point is 02:04:04 my father was a boxer. He definitely ran. Yeah, my father. But, yo, let me just say something. And we're going to wrap this to fuck up. Thank you. My brother.
Starting point is 02:04:21 I hit you and I say, yo, Y'all, y'all? Y'all. Y'all? Y'all. Y'all? Bum, boom, boom. I don't think it went like that, though. It wasn't like that. No, you make it this smooth. It ain't go like that. Yeah, but I said, but it was my idea. Definitely your idea. I said, yo, I don't know how.
Starting point is 02:04:39 Trust me. Yo, let me tell you highway. Did you understand where he just? I understood it because I Now I'm part of the yallahs I'm part I'm yala now I'm there with the yon day The yonde is the yalla
Starting point is 02:04:53 The yon day is the yalla under the yonde Okay all right Times three All right The yaday Yala under the yad day Really holl at me because I'm Yon day
Starting point is 02:05:04 Let's go Okay Well listen how this happened was Before the last drink No not the last drink The last drink champs by myself. Right. Not the one with graph his seeds.
Starting point is 02:05:19 And they'll call me. Yo, Bleak, I need you for drink champs, dog. You got to pull back on. I'm like, yo, bro, I did it twice. Nah, man, what I'm going to talk about now? He's like, nah, I know it. I know the game. I got you.
Starting point is 02:05:32 You need your own podcast, too. So I'm like, I didn't, nah, I tried that. I don't want to do that no more. Trust me, I got you. You got to do it. Like, I. No, I'm going to pull up. I come do drink chips.
Starting point is 02:05:48 We do it. Shit go viral. Everything. He hit me. Pleak, I'm telling you, you got to do your own podcast. They want you. Yeah, the comments are saying that. I'm like, no, no, man, I can't, I don't have the person now.
Starting point is 02:05:59 I don't, I can't interview niggers. I don't care what niggins thought process was making their album. He was like, yo, you ain't got to ask niggas that. You can just have a regular conversation with niggas. I love how you breaking this down So I'm really like Nah and no I don't know He like bleak trust me
Starting point is 02:06:19 Man I've been doing this shit I learned it I got you Not gonna have you do nothing crazy So I asked my wife I'm like yo you think I should do She's like yeah you should give it a shot I did the first couple episodes
Starting point is 02:06:32 Freeway Chris I caught no again Man I don't think this shit for me Dude Yeah I don't think this shit for me I can't do it You know
Starting point is 02:06:42 He's like, nah, man, you got it. You think if you look stupid, I'm going to let you keep going. No way, man, you're killing this shit. You got it. So I'm like, all right, fuck it. It wasn't until I think after the Just Blaze episode where I took this serious. Remember that Just Blaze episode didn't come out.
Starting point is 02:06:58 No, this is all us getting shit in the chamber. Right. Continue. So it wasn't until after Just Blaze episode where I got serious, where I'm like, fuck it. Let me take this shit serious and get really with it. This wasn't. No, he like, he's like,
Starting point is 02:07:12 see some, maybe I don't see. And then it took forever. And then we dropped, shit went lady. I called that d'nagra. Yo, I called that nigga. I was like, nah, nah, nah, you was right, you was right.
Starting point is 02:07:28 You that bigger. But we was popping shit to each other for you. No, yeah, was popping shit to the whole group. Like, oh, we're going to drop now. We're going to drop now. We got to drop now. Especially, listen, you got to remember. You would have heard it.
Starting point is 02:07:40 It's competition out here. cuz when you hear shit like campaign for his own studio he shot everything itself it's like wait a minute we ain't fucked up we ain't on the welfare line
Starting point is 02:07:53 cut we got some chicken we can broil you some shit over here niggas like nah wait so I ain't know you know we got our own shit There's a method to the madness man You know what I'm saying Drake Champs Network
Starting point is 02:08:09 There's a method to the madness You know Uncle Russ hit me Russ hit me When Rock Island When Rock Sally dropped That's not too
Starting point is 02:08:18 And he said I'm gonna say a prayer for you That's big God heard that I don't know if he had my sheds But he hit Rush shit He better hit Rushet Russ shit
Starting point is 02:08:32 Russ can still at 60 If you can still sit With your legs crossed God listening to you He floats I think he floats Yeah Because if I cross these shits
Starting point is 02:08:40 I'm gonna need crutches I'm gonna eat shout out to Russ At this point you just fake a shot I'm gonna take one For me This ain't got nothing You're finishing that bottle
Starting point is 02:08:53 We know what you're doing Russ that nigger If he tell you You doing your thing Is he in Singapore Where the fuck is he at? I don't know But he said
Starting point is 02:09:03 We're doing our thing He said we're doing our thing Blizzou That's dope So he saw episode and then hit you Yeah He saw an episode, and he saw the breakfast club joint, and he hit me and was just, you know, giving me a blessing. Was Russ around when you, when Rockefeller Def Jam deal happened?
Starting point is 02:09:18 Yeah, I got a story about Russ. I said it on one of my, it's going to drop later, but, yo, listen, right? Oh, it's dropping later, but go ahead. On my, because I said it, I was talking to one of my niggins on the podcast. I forgot who I'm talking to, but stories just come up. So listen, Russ gave me some game in life that I thought, Hey, man, Russ, leave me the fuck alone. We're outside.
Starting point is 02:09:42 You don't know what you're talking about. And then older me is like, shit, Russ was on to something. He knew exactly what he was talking about. So we was in the office one day, right? Just chilling like it's like. And Rockefeller, Def Jam. No, the Def Jam. Barrick or?
Starting point is 02:09:58 No, this is 50th. This is where we've been. The big boy. We eat in Rockefeller. Right. So Jay, like, Barrack. There, we was just coming up. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:08 Y'all had your own floor at that time, right? I'm sorry. For the industry, niggas, this is... Yeah, but we was eating. Inside information. Go ahead. So, Jay was doing some, and he was like, yo, come me upstairs to Rust Office. And I'm like, all, cool, let's wrong.
Starting point is 02:10:24 We go to Russ Office. They talk in mad business shit. We drinking. Everybody's chilling. I got on shorts, regular short shit, because it's high. Summertime in New York. So we're chilling. We was in the rest office probably like an hour and a half.
Starting point is 02:10:38 Yo, bro, I was so, y'all, I don't even know what they was talking about. But it had to be about some type of album promotion, marketing, deals, marketing, whatever they was talking about. This was J. This was still, there was Fat Farm era. Okay, yeah. We get up to leave. This is Russ is active, active, right. We get up to leave the office.
Starting point is 02:10:56 I get up and stand up. Remember, I told you all that was shorts. The pistol fell on the floor in Russ' office. So I pick it up like nobody's. saw it. He saw it. He was like, yo, you're carrying the gun, man. I almost felt like the
Starting point is 02:11:16 Lean-O-Misi. You're carrying the gun, and it's like, hell yeah, rough shit, lit out there. When you said, Leonor Misi, and you're talking about when you... Yeah, when, like, the principal telling you, like, you're stupid as a little niggum. Yeah. That one? No, no, no, no. I'm going to smack crack.
Starting point is 02:11:33 You know, you know, that's about that point. I'm saying, you know, you know, I'm black. But you know, Black, I'm leaning on me. Yeah, but, yo. All the way through. So, Russ was like, yo, you carry in the country. So I'm like, yeah, Russ is active out here. We in New York.
Starting point is 02:11:47 This shit, it's real. I'd rather be caught with it than without it. And I think it was like, man, you see where you at? Like, look who you where millionaires. Man, you're sitting in here. It's millionaires in here. He was like, ain't no way. He's like, I'm Russell Simmons.
Starting point is 02:12:04 I know you ain't more famous than me. He was like, I'm Russell Simmons. I know you ain't got more money than me. So who would be after you? That ain't after me. He's like, so you know what that mean? You're in the wrong spots, young man. You're in places you don't belong if you still got to carry a gun.
Starting point is 02:12:26 And like I said, I'm looking at Russ like, Russ, you ain't outside. This ain't the 80s. He was out of touch. He was out of touch. Right, right. But as I get older, I realize. No, you understand exactly what he was saying.
Starting point is 02:12:40 A fact, bro, like, because me today, me? Oh, I ain't going nowhere. I need the pistol. Right. If I need the pistol, Bleak ain't there. Yeah. We straight up. Of course.
Starting point is 02:12:50 Like, but back then, like I said, I didn't understand it. Of course, man. So I always respect OG for giving me gang and always just, you know, looking out. And I respect all the OGs from Def Jam, man. Like Mike Kaiser, the Kevin Lassie. Russell Julie Greenwald Julie
Starting point is 02:13:09 Leo fucking um Randy Acker Randy of course Randy Rob Love of course Rob Love
Starting point is 02:13:18 fucking Um What's my girl name Who went to work for Who went to work for a murder Inc? Damn She's gonna be pissed
Starting point is 02:13:28 I forgot her name man But everybody up there Played the role In the life I live today The man I became because one thing about Def Jam, it was nothing but seasoned vets up there
Starting point is 02:13:41 and they didn't let none of the artists just be reckless. They was giving us tool and giving us game to be focused and it was on each his own who listen. And me, I listen, bro. I used to study like, what the fuck? Why these guys so powerful? I wanted to be powerful like them. And I knew ignorance wouldn't get me there.
Starting point is 02:14:01 Do you think we ever, wait, hold on, do you think we ever have another Def Jam? Absolutely. I feel like we don't... Definitely. Nah. There's some young hungry niggas out there, man. It's all about...
Starting point is 02:14:12 But you think the business environment will even allow another Def Jam? Of course, because I think what Def Jam was was guys who wanted to make their mark and check and change the music. Because they changed the course of music of where it was going at that time.
Starting point is 02:14:29 Right. You know what I mean? Just saw four artists that they signed. DMX, J-Rul, J-Z. Well, before that, Def Jam was Def Jam, though. Yeah, but still, but then they went through a dark cloud like they did right now. So that's what I mean. They can come back.
Starting point is 02:14:44 You mean Def Jam? They did it before. Yes. No, I don't think so. All right. I don't feel the same way. Okay. And I'm not saying Def Jam as a label can't come back.
Starting point is 02:14:54 I just feel culturally and what it means it doesn't, because it's corporate owned. It's been bought over a couple times. So, let's say, it's not that boutique label. You think niggas like young Saf? The homies that run Best of both, best of both officers. No, those are They're all great. They can't revive that company. They were the, remember,
Starting point is 02:15:15 they were the interns when we, they were the street team. Absolutely. Now they're running the business. The whole time with them, yeah. So, bro, you give them guys that, the key to the car. Are they going to get it, though? If it's if they want it, because they could take it right now.
Starting point is 02:15:32 They're that powerful. If they wanted, I feel like guys like that. You know the Shari Bryant's and, you know, the new young blood in the gang, bro? Like, come on, man, it's a lot of young blood. Shout to Mazi over there, too. That could shift the narrative. You know, it's just when one of these big corporate companies going to want to take the risks on a new young executive?
Starting point is 02:15:56 That's what it really take. Because there's a lot of young guys, girls out here that got the potential to change what the music business is heading towards. but it's who want to take the bet. So I don't never say never. I just say when. I just say different. And definitely, it's always going to never be the same.
Starting point is 02:16:18 That's what I'm saying. It's not going to be the old. It might be bigger. It's going to be different. Bigger is subjective. Hey, there's more money in the business today. That ain't subjective. 100%, but it's not coming to the artist.
Starting point is 02:16:35 For the most part, for the most part, not. Some of them, they're getting that fucking fete. The tech companies are taking it. Well, come on, let's build us a tech company. That's what needs to happen. Yo, but. Take it the picture. I had a little pepper.
Starting point is 02:16:53 I need to rewind, car. Yeah, take that rewind. You can have that box right there. Tell them, yo, rewind, rock solid. You're trying to rewind. Highlight us. Highlight us, because blood. Monster.
Starting point is 02:17:05 Yeah, yeah We all, we end in all that We're good I was a grim and we got you in the yala We can't tell you gonna throw up the guns Bye bye No, no, no guns Yo, what happened to the air horns
Starting point is 02:17:18 Yeah, yeah Everybody was getting pissed That they was her in their ears What? How? Turn your fucking volume down You can't turn the volume down You can't turn the values on the air horns
Starting point is 02:17:27 You're talking about the people here Yeah Was complaining? Yeah Yeah, staff No, the gas The guy's like, oh shit They were taking BDSD.
Starting point is 02:17:36 Oh, fuck. You ain't seen the time. You know it's true. It's God. It's not true. It's not true. You know, listen. Any guests that came in there got scared.
Starting point is 02:17:47 You got to take pictures, man. We didn't even end the show. Let them end it. Let blink end it. Yo, man, I guess the show is over. This has been the episode of Drink Champs. Duce Mafia in the building. It's fucking rock solid.
Starting point is 02:18:03 E. Fian and Norrie. EFN. I said EF EFN. I'm cool with EFN. Yeah, EFN. He was a bitcher. But normally going on vacation, he's trying to run off the set. He's going to go on vacation right now.
Starting point is 02:18:16 And trying to buy new watch. We're going to rob him on the next vacation. We meet the watch dealer. He put it on his base suit right now. Look at him. Let's go. Drink Champs is a Drink Champs LLC production, hosts and executive producers, N-O-R-E and DJ EFN.
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