Drink Champs - Episode 471 w/ Lil' Flip & Z-Ro

Episode Date: September 19, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legendary, Lil Flip & Z-Ro! Two legends out of H-Town, these icons have carried the Texas rap torch for decades, and in this episode, they take the crew deep into their stories, struggles, and triumphs. Lil’ Flip reflects on his come-up during the Screwed Up Click era, the success of hits like “Game Over,” and how he kept his independence game strong in an industry that wanted to box him in. Z-Ro, known for his raw honesty and heartfelt bars, opens up about his reputation as “The Mo City Don,” his resilience, and how he’s remained authentic while the game around him kept changing. The conversation dives deep into the DNA of Houston music—DJ Screw’s influence, chopped and screwed culture, and how the city built a blueprint for self-made success. With plenty of gems, classic stories, and that unfiltered Drink Champs energy, this episode is a celebration of Southern culture, unity, and the legacy of two kings who never let the industry define them. Make some noise for Lil Flip & Z-Ro! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com Follow: Drink Champs https://www.drinkchamps.com https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps   DJ EFN  https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions   N.O.R.E.  https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Drink Chaps, yappy yawah. Let's go. Let's go. Listen, man, I don't know if I'm going to drink lean tonight. You know what I'm saying? It looks like, I'm going to ask for something, man. At some point, you know what I mean?

You got to relax. Yo, my homie. I can't call him little flip because he's been a man for a long time, so he's a big flip. Zero of my first time meeting you I listened to your album That album is classic Flo, it's a classic

I can't believe how good y'all sound together Because y'all sounds so good separately And the fact that you got together And y'all sounds so good So today we're gonna give y'all y'all y'all flowers We're gonna make sure that y'all understand How much hip hop enjoys, loves y'all And we're gonna give y'all your motherfucking flowers off top

You just fuck terrible And no Fick, my part No, let's get it Let's do it

on top Let's do it Let's do it Let's give me flowers Hey Yeah Yeah Yeah

He had a lot But he didn't Yeah You've been A couple times But we wasn't Give it out The

He didn't Just a drink Remix That was a party Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah

Yeah Yeah So Um Both of y'all Both of y'all man You're from a

very rich history Right a lot of people don't understand how rich Houston is in history right from the ghetto boys

so I just want to take it from the beginning and ask y'all how was it growing up in that environment in the beginning there you go Rother the pressure was on

okay yeah the pressure was on Now, describe that. When you say the pressure is on, are you saying because of your peers or from the outsiders, like the New Yorkers and the Miami people? Well, like, really, really from everybody because we were trying to feel like shoes. You're trying to walk in their shoes. Okay. So when that started, we was rapping already.

So it was kind of like we was better than everybody else. Right. But then we got the big homies. And it's like, we're trying to get, I ain't going to say better than them. But, you know, we got to at least be, well, they can know me in the room. Right. Right. So that's why I mean the pressure was on at least for me. Right.

Yeah. So let me ask, right. Whenever a person say Houston, they say, they say Texas, they say, even Dallas sometimes, they always mention J. Prince. Is that something that y'all have to go through? or is that something that... I mean, there's a bunch of labels out of Texas, though. I mean, but one of the most powerful... I mean, there's a lot of legacy labels, though.

What we talk about, rap a lot? We talk about Swab House. Switch a house, okay. Screwed up records. Screwed up records. But the most notorious... And going back as far as rap a lot, one of the original indies in hip-hop, yeah.

It's like us from being in New York, Def Jam. Like, Def Jam... Miami, we got Luke Records. Okay, yeah. There you go. Perfect example. Was that something that you have... to deal with or it's something that never really popped

up for y'all? It's just something that when you got respect and you got talent and you stand on your word, you know, you get treated as such. So the things that Jay Prince did and built for Houston and the ghetto boys and

the different things that the foundations they laid down, they gave us the blueprint, the black print on how to be independent. You said the black print? Yeah, because we're black. And so they showed us You could be independent They showed us

You could put your logo on your pendant Right So we learned a lot about marketing And, you know, showing up to the shows deep So, you know, that's fan And we go always show love to them And it never go change, man You know, that was a beautiful

This thing for me being a New Yorker Watching the rise of Houston, right? was y'all was actually independent. For sure. Like, a lot of people were saying they were independent. No, Texas was a lot. And had distribution. Houston was really out the trunk.

For sure. Like, I always loved that about you. It's the Bay Area and Texas. Yeah, for sure. And we, I'm still out the trunk. Right. Yeah, thumb drive, CDs, T-shirts, merch. I still hustle like I ain't got nothing.

Like, that's the way you keep it. I'm going to take a shot to that. Hey, let's take one. Let's take my with you. Let's take my wife. Come on. You take the sake and some of lean? Let's do it.

Yeah, let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Salute. Dilley, dilly.

So let's break down that because that's something I'm always a fan of. I'm sorry. I'm a fan of Houston culture. I feel like, I feel like Houston doesn't have to promote outside of Houston. I mean, a little bit. You know, A little bit, but it's just like, when you got your core fan base, like, see, a lot of people, like when they try to talk about my career span, a lot of people, they just started at 2001 when I got the deal. The major deal.

Yeah, this is the way we bowed. Okay. And then for some, it was Atlantic Records? Now, that was Columbia. Live, a loud. Steve Rifkin. Shout out to Steve Rifkin. So, Pac-Man, Sappel, right?

Right. Okay, go ahead. But prior to this is the way we buy. I got diamonds in your face. I got records. LaTroille was the first person to put me on BET. We had a record called Lean to the left. Wow.

Probably going to plant them on mixtapes. Yeah, no, we really did that. We really did that. And so I got classic records with Big T in the house tonight. He got Mo City done. We got different records that we go tour off of that are big before the mainstream. So my catalog, I have a classic catalog before the major deal. Yeah, that people sing word for word and zero the same way.

Like, so our career, man, it's some real historic shit. Hell yeah. Let's make some noise for you. On the beginning we started this shit, they were like, you better get zero. Like they were. Yeah, you have been fan requests. Yo, listen, your fans are very, very, very relentless. They're great.

They're crazy. They're very aggressive. They're very aggressive. We call them roguards. Throw heads. From the beginning, they thought we were dropping the ball by not having you on. Right. So let's talk about your fan base for a second.

How did you develop that? Man, targeting the people who didn't have shit. Okay. Talking to people who didn't have shit. I take a shot for that. Yeah, yeah. I take a shot for that with two. People that they have you.

Yeah, for real, for real, because that can motivate you. Because I was the people that didn't have shit. So, uh, right in my room. When I met Flip, they was kind of like trying to press us against each other. Really? Yeah, it was kind of like, I guess the two, I don't want to just pull everybody else up under us and say like, get up here. But it kind of was like that a little bit. So when I met him, they was like, I got 50,000 on Roe.

I got 50,000 on Flew trying to make us. They was trying to make us freestyle against each other and all that shit. So it was just, I don't know, man. I didn't have nothing. So I didn't want to get on those songs talking about, oh, I'm in this foreign or I'm in this dope-ass high ride. I was sleeping outside.

So I was doing music for the niggas who was sleeping outside. For the niggas who wanted to come inside. You know, for the niggas who was hungry, like your back growling now, you pass your stomach. So those people heard that, and it resonated.

And before I knew it, shit, I wouldn't pull no more. You know what I'm saying? and shout out to the road. He brought you inside. He brought me inside all the way to the top floor. So I watched a documentary the other day about Katrina. And one thing that I realized that Katrina affected you guys was most of the people that was left.

The people, yeah, the refugees of New Orleans. They came to the age. They came to the age. They came to the age. So can y'all describe that time for me? Because I, we had 9-11, right? New York. When New Yorkers left, New Orleans had Katrina,

but Katrina went and they visited Houston. I didn't realize how much it might have affected the Houston economy. Did that help the Houston economy or did they bring it down? I feel like it helped. I mean, there was more people at that. the shows, and we got a lot of Louisiana fans. Right. Like, even September 11th, I was supposed to be in New York on September 11th,

but at the last minute, I changed my mind. Wow. I was supposed to go talk to some labels, and then that happened. Right. But, like, when Katrina happened, the day before Katrina hit, I flew to New Orleans to do a meeting, greeting, I think I was in a, yeah, the superta... Wait, so you were in New Orleans?

The day before, what the fuck out of it? It was a company, a phone company called Altill. Oh, wow. They had gave me, like, $50,000 to do, like, two songs. And I went and did a meeting greet. And they were saying it wasn't going to be that bad. The storm was saying that before. So as I'm flying in, I didn't really know what was going on.

I'm like, why everybody at the gas stations, right? And they're like, why has the storm coming? Right. I'm like, shit. So we flying over. We do the meeting greet at the Superdome. At that time, I was doing business with Squared Up. Shout out the, you know, squad up, gutter, gutter, everybody.

And gutter, gutter, gutter, still my fam. So they came. They was like, yeah, man, we go ride this shit out, you know? And then we did the meet and greeting. I got on the jet. We flew in on the jet, flew back to Houston. The next day it hit. And we couldn't get in touch with nobody.

We couldn't get in touch with gutter nobody. And they just ended up in Houston. They're like, man, we're in age time. And, you know, so a lot of the little flipping squad up music. Right. Was made during the Katrina time. Oh, wow. Yeah.

Because I didn't even realize, I always knew, like, New Orleans and Houston. Because a lot of my neighbors, when I moved to Miami, a lot of my neighbors would drive to New Orleans and would drive to Houston. I'm like, who the fuck drives to Houston from Miami? And I didn't realize it's only like 13 hours away, right? But a lot of them resided during this time there. And I didn't realize how close it was and how much that you guys got affected. So, what's, like, when you, when you hear those different wards, what's the difference from the wards when you, when you describe, it's like Fifth Ward, because that's where, uh, uh, uh, ghetto boys is from, right? They're from Fifth Ward? Well, some of them. Okay. And New Orleans got awards, too. It's like, yeah. So, so what's the difference from the wards in Houston and the wards in, uh, New Orleans, if, if you can?

I mean, people got their own slang in their different ways. They hustle, but it's similar. You know, it's similar. Just people trying to get their money, you know, hustling, you know. We got third war, second world, your fifth war, you know. Fourth, yeah. But it's different hoods, same shit, man. People trying to get their money.

Right. And people hustling different things. Right. And only the strong survives. I'm taking a shot for that. Hey. Let's go. Let's go.

Let's go. Solo. A little flip. Flip. Yeah. Big flip. Yeah. I feel like I knew you for quite some time.

And I feel like the most success you got, you never let this shit get to your head. That's something that I admire about you, right? Appreciate it. Like you always been a solid dude. You know why? I don't know why. The reason is, when you used to attention, you don't have to go out your way to get it. Right.

So I grew up doing talent shows. I grew up. My grandmother had a beauty shop. So I grew up being around nothing but women, right? Like, I had men, you know, father figures and grand in my life, but I'm saying, so they liked me for me. So I always was just being me. I ain't never have to be nothing different to get attention. So when you being yourself, shit, it ain't hard.

And I don't love money. You know what I mean? I feel God. Money love you? I don't know. I don't know. But it's attracted to me. You know, I don't know if they love me, but no fingerprints.

Yeah. I don't know. It stays coming, you know, like literally. So, you know, I just stayed me, bro. I ain't going to never let the money to fame what I got dictate, you know, making me feel like I'm better than you just because I got this. Right.

You know, shit. One bad deal, it can all be gone. It can all be gone. Yeah, so I just stay humble with this shit. But I know who I am. Yeah. Yeah. So, Zero, let me ask you,

this is a tough motherfucking game. A lot of us fold. A lot of us fold during this game. And what made you stay so solid? The rent. The rent? I wasn't ready I was not ready

That would inspire you to say something I mean I think I'm I think I'm pretty well versed at this shit But even more than that I got I got a lifestyle that I like to live And I'm not going back to the one before this one

So I know That's my main You know what I'm saying And then I like I like shit in all niggas. Okay. I like shit on niggas. I'm gonna just be honest.

I ain't gonna, I ain't gonna no deep answer. I just, I know I'm dope. Right. And I want motherfuck's to hear that shit. Right. Goddamn.

Make some noise, you're up. You know what is that? You know what is. Want to do quick time of slime? Let's do it. You got it? You got it ready?

Okay. Oh, is it's in my, is it okay. All right, let's go. Want to explain them a game? Because you didn't play this when you came. No, no.

You came to the, was it the Christmas party? It was, I don't know what time it was. I just know we was drinking and we were smoking. We had it. It was a great time. Let me take something. You have your own right to start your own drink champ section. You can start your own gang of drink champs.

We give you the permission. You have been down with us from the beginning, through the middle, and you are still here. So we want one of one million percent. appreciate you just so you know yeah and i thank you for wearing that that uh houston's astro's jersey and that home boy oh home boy i came apart i'm boy for you yeah thanks i'm worried appreciate i appreciate i was like yeah no ring out on the astro's jersey yeah no it's a astro's fan it's good thank you this is our drinking game we're gonna give you two choices you pick one we don't drink but if you say both or neither we're drinking okay so kind of simple and then we

just want stories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is really what this is for. Yeah. Give us any stories with these people or places or whatever we bring up. It's about stories. Ben. All right.

Scarface of Bambi. Take a shot. Damn. Take a shot. Damn. Hey, man, you can't leave the witness, man. I can't pick. I can't pick.

I can't. Yeah, I can't pick between the two. They both influence you in my life. and learned a lot from both of them brothers, proud of them brothers, and shit, we go keep making them proud. When they see us, they tell us they're proud of us. So we just go keep uplifting each other. You ever had a Trailburger?

Yes. I'm just as good as fuck, right? Yeah, yeah. I know they're steroids in there. I know it. Don't say that, man. I'm just some good-ass steroids. They make some good-ass burgers.

It might be cocaine. Hey, it was a lot. Allegedly. I'm just playing. Not at all. No, but yeah, I fuck with true burgers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to come to East Town and, you know, no, no, I did that.

No, we got other food spots too. You got to come to Savoy. I've been to a surprise club. Breakfast club is dope. You eat lamb chops. No, I don't eat, I don't eat red meat, but I eat everything else. It's a done deal. With whoever around you eat lamb chops, they got to come to Savoy.

Savoy. Best lamb chops in the world. I stamped it. I was in, I was in Houston, hanging. with Mexicans and shit. Yeah. I was like, I didn't. Yeah.

All right. I was like, I ain't even know. You didn't even know what? I ain't even know. I went for Puerto Rican and Mexican like that. Like, well, I was like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Yeah.

No, no. Now, give him a brow. Give him a breath. Wait, hold on. What the fuck is sake? I don't know. I ain't been around. Japanese rice wine.

Yeah. I try one. Okay, try, try one, sake. Wait. I'm not even doing my regular. Yeah. It's rice wine. So.

You got no. Yeah, but it'll sneak up. Don't, don't let it for you. It's like, hey, man, stop that. You're leaving the witness. Salo. Salon. All right, there we go.

Yeah, man. Yeah, man, you got to take the shot. Both of them ledges, man. I mean, they both contributed to the game. Like, hell yeah. Can't go against it. Can't. So, Paul Wall or Mike Jones?

Who? Paul War or Mike Jones. Every time somebody says, man, I ain't go pick, man. I'm not going to pick, man. You got to take a shot then? Yeah, I'm going to be taking shots, man. I got to give Mike Jones something. We didn't have him on the show, by the way.

We've had Paul Wall. Mike Jones. I call him and tell him. I forget what's happening. We took a shot for that, right? We took a shot. Yeah, I took a shot. But every couple of times, we're seeing that people that are promoting their phone numbers.

Right. Mike Jones, hands down, had to be the first person to ever promote. He absolutely is the first person. He is, right? He had him in a T-shirt. Yes, he is, right? That shit was the craziest campaign ever. That was the best campaign ever.

People are still biting. his campaign to this day and not giving him his props. He got the number back, nah. He got the number back. Yeah, he got it back. That was genius, though. No, that was genius.

He was just ahead of his time. Hey, you got to... No, but it worked for him at that time. But the dope part about when you're an artist, when everybody else going left and right and you decide to go straight,

I fuck with that over anything. Like, so I salute my Jones, man, doing this time, man. Oh, real. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing.

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The I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you go to find your podcast. Slim Thug, a little Kiki. We take it. Hey, the boss, they're going to have a lot of taking shots all night, man. We can be going against the studio, man. Yeah. No, I love the Houston loyalty. I love it.

Yeah, man. Only thinking this is like that's a. Close to that is like Brooklyn. If I answer any. Brooklyn, Brooklyn go Brooklyn. No, did Queens do that the other day? No, Queens, we always do that.

But I feel like Brooklyn got us a little bit more. Leave the flip. Yeah, we need you to go home. We got two of the dude. Damn. All right. Ghetto boys are U.G.K. Damn, brother.

It doesn't got to be a music shit. It could be someone that's closer you're closer with. I mean. Like, if we answer any of this shit, we can't go home. Yeah. You got to stay in my answer. But look, I want to ask both of y'all, right? Okay, we've got a drink.

Okay, I'm bringing it. All right, here we go. Hey, I'm going back to it. Because Pepsi. Ooh, shit. I always tell the story. I don't know. I don't know if people know how real Pepsi was.

But Pepsi was probably like, I don't want to say the realest rapper I met, but he was like one of the realest people. All right, man How was your relationship with Pimp? Pimp just was Always giving me game His mama, rest and peace to Mama West When she was on her deathbed

She wanted to talk to me before she passed away Wow I learned a lot about booking shows And negotiating But then standing on top of your business You know, from the way Mama West used to book their shows So I went on tour with them

I learned a lot, like, it's an old video of us on BET with Bumby talking and me and C-note in the background and Bambi shouted me out and stuff like this. So, like, UGK and just the whole movement, Port Arthur, what we learned from people. That's not technically Houston. No, it's just like an hour away. Okay.

Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I learned a lot from them, man, and they wasn't afraid to let you know they from Texas. And Pem Cigo let you know, we're from Texas, and we come and die. Yeah, like so, yeah, we love it. It was a famous interview where Pimp, like, I'm not for the South, obviously. But when he said, man, Atlanta not even from the South, he made me check, he made me look at the map.

At Geographic. You know what I'm trying to say? I was like, really? Atlanta's not the South. He's like, day time is the same. The East Coast. It fucked me up. Y'all you remember that?

I remember this a bit good. But he used the time songs? That wouldn't really make sense, though, because Florida's in the same time zone. Oh, he's shitting on y'all, too. He was like, technically, none of y'all from the South. Oh, he did say that. He did say that. That shit was, like, because, like, just dealing with intelligence.

was he right he was technically right he said it is the east coast he called you all the east coast I mean we're on the east coast man if you look at the NBA if you look at the NBA

Atlanta is East Coast in the NBA East and West we're on the East Coast man Miami is on the east so when Pimsy said that I said this nigger is

mad smart it doesn't take that for smarts no he on the East Coast man yo no that shit is still fucking me right

just think about what he said how smart was that he said that shit 15 years ago he said that y'all wasn't the South we are the South

but on the East Coast Southeast Southeast Oh, don't. But, okay, let me ask you this question. I've thought about this a lot. Texas is hell in the middle. I always felt like Texas lean more to the West Coast.

Nope. Texas is Midwest? What do you? Is Midwest or? So when I hear Texas people, I mean, I heard a long time ago. No, no, no, not. No, I'm just being serious. All the way, claim in the South.

I'm like, yeah, it's kind of like, I feel like y'all could claim the West, too, if you wanted to. We're right in the South. We write in the South. middle. We were right in the middle of the map. They're just trying to go wherever you and y'all like strategic like Swiss. We knew you like

Swiss. Yes. Swest? I'm going to give you your publishing. You got to do you guys. You're going to give you your publishing but I'm taking that. Swest? Oh, I'm going to give you your publishing though. I'm going to give you. I'm going to

your checks will come every month. Salute. I haven't finished the Pimsy. What he said. No, that shit was the craziest shit because I I didn't realize the geographics of You need to stop there

I'm fucking up with you But I didn't If you think about what If you think about What he said that shit Almost 20 years ago Right Yeah

It was however many years ago It's always the East Coast But I didn't even realize that And he was like Atlanta You're you motherfuck Technically ain't even the South He said you

You niggas is more New York. And I said, did I went to Nick's game in Atlanta and everybody was there was from New York.

And I said, that's what he was really probably referring to more. I said, Pett's right. I'm sorry, Atlanta. I can't go back to Atlanta. You're talking to my,

I can't go back to Texas. Shit. Shout out to it. I can't go back to. What's Linux more? I'm going to be fooled in Linux more. Go ahead. All right, go ahead.

What we got? Rob PimC, man Yeah Yeah, man Yo, that's my nigga Real That was a real one Nigger had the furry code on

In Miami You say TB ain't got no Timp2 Yeah I'm winning the part The furred code, nigga At the big Pimpoo? Yeah Yeah

Crazy man You want my TMPC story? Go ahead Yeah You got a PMC story? Oh yeah You know Um

I, we called them and he said Uh This is This is we wanted a relationship with UGK and they want a relationship with up. This is before we went to the hood.

You came to my hood. With Bambi. With Bambi. You came to my hood with Bambi. This is before that. That was legendary, by the way. It's legendary. I'll get to that story too.

But Pimp said, I want this amount of money. This is for Moose and May's album. Right. He's like, I want this amount of money and I want this amount of money. And I said, all right. UGK is on fire so I came to the studio

and I gave him the check he gave him the check hello he gave him the check I mean that matters and then he said to me he said to me you really you really did that

and I was like yeah he gave me back the check and he was like I just wanted to see if you was a real nigga wow and I took And I took the check back, and I was like, but this is not my money.

So here, take the check back. That's what communion that did to me. Oh, really? We traded. He did a song on my... Who did this? Commitian. Okay.

Yeah. He did a hook on my record. You see it on Underground Legend, and he did a verse with me. We split the last verse. And he showed up to my house, like, hey, I got a record with Scott Storitz. Oh, wow. Yeah, he was like, I got a beat from him. I want to put you on it.

I'm like, I got you. What? He showed up with a $15,000 check. That was a check for $15,000. Yeah, I'm like, bro, we trade and I'm cool. Right. Like, they go spend the money on some shit anyway. So he, like, made me take the check.

I was like, all right, cool. That's exactly what I did. Yeah. So Pimp gave me back the check and was like, I just wanted to see if he was a real nigger. Right. And I was like, I already cleared this. So I am a real nigger. Take this one of the fucking check.

And, um, me, Bun, Bump, we were great ever since then. That's the reason why it's crazy that me and you have this fucking great shoulder together because you came with me to my hood and it was a wild day.

I'm coming from Miami, Bunch from Texas and we both look at it. It was a wild day. It was a crazy day. And I had to be, I wasn't a rapper that day. I had to let them niggas know. And I was running around and it was. I was, I was,

you I would in that hood You left us Me and Bo were hanging out You left us Right up No You know when you get You get back in there

You're like It was crazy hood and bump feet That's it And your guys were there You know the crew Yeah Yeah yeah no No no

That was a wild day And bump And bump I think you appreciated that And I think you appreciate it Absolutely yeah Yes Let's go

Let's go Next question I think that's dope though That you did it you got experiences with the people that we got to see like all the time. You know what I mean?

Like that's dope that you got your own memory with people. I knew PIPP was special but I knew that encounter that we had. I knew that was special but I didn't know how special it was until after he passed.

After he passed I was like, holy shit. But, look ahead. Boy, you got any story that maybe you haven't told him with Pimsy? Or you, yeah. Zero YouTube. You go first, brother.

I got a lot of stories with Pimp. Trying to see. I don't want to say when I said already. Okay. Okay, yeah. So it's 2005. I don't know what PimC look like. I don't know what Bunn look like.

Wow. Because I've been buying burn CDs. Oh. So I ain't know what nobody looks like in rap. I just, I knew y'all. You know what they sound like. Right. Yeah.

So, I got it, I would even know, I guess before Jay Prince signed me, I kind of was, I don't want to say I was out in the street tripping or nothing like that, but I probably was out in the street tripping. Okay. So I was, I was kind of like, I was fucking shit up. So Red Boy was like, hey, I got a letter from you from Pimp C. You know, Pimp was in, he hadn't came home yet. so I'm like I don't even know that nigga like why I got a letter from him

and he gave me the letter and he was like read it in his voice this thing I didn't know you call it before you read it man like you got like you ever been

cussed out on a piece of paper no and you got to read that shit in the man's voice it wasn't no dear, it was just, look out, nigga. You need to sit the fuck down

and I tell. And it wasn't D-O-W-N, it was D-I-N-E. You need to sit to fuck die Southside, you know what I'm saying? Man, the man, Rick, and I'm like, it ain't a real argument, so I can't tell that nigga like, nigga, you got me fucked up

because he wrote this shit like a week ago. I'm reading it right now, he ain't there, so I'm like, So I knick cussed me out before he missed me Before he met me And then I had to act like I didn't have an attitude When I met that nigga To get through video shoot

He walked up to the car And I really wanted to be like Say man, you got me fucked up But that shit was like 18 weeks ago So it ain't going to mean that now So That's all I got a lot You ever spoke about the letter or not

No because I mean I mean Nick still was pimsy Right, right. You said have respect for him, right. And he walked up and that nigger was like, say, man, I like this blue, but I'm riding red, Jack. That's how I'm admitting. Wow. Yeah, and I mean, I was just...

Wait, because you had on blue? Nah, he was talking about, like, the gang shit. Oh, oh. I mean, I was in a candy blue car at the time. Okay. So he was like, yeah, man, I like the blue, man, but I'm, but you know, you know, you know, Pimp going to let you know he's riding red at all times. Yeah. And he's coming down.

Coming down. Yeah. Got there, rest of the piece. Yeah. Legit, man. Like, he always gave me game. I always gave me free verses. I always, like, I remember one time we had a show.

I don't know what part of Louisiana we was in, but, man, we did the show. I don't know how everybody found out where we were staying. But, bro, when I tell you, there's so many, like, baddies and kneecaps just running around. I'm sorry. You said kneecap? Yeah, we call a kneecap. So when women, tities are super big, we call them kneecaps. So, kneecap tithes, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, kneecaps. Yeah. So message, but yeah. But we, we, we, it was a whole whole, the whole town knew where we were staying. And I just remember Bunn sitting in the hall like, man, for a little man, I'm tired of this shit. I was looking at him like, nigga, I ain't going to never get tired of it. He's like, he's going to never get tired of it. He's like, he's tired of the business.

It was just the lifestyle. Just the lifestyle. People, you know, just too many people every way of finding out where we're staying. Right. Yeah, but I was like 18 at the time. I was like, yeah, it's going dying, nigga, you know. But yeah, so, yeah, great times with them, man. Let's take a shot.

Let's do it. What's this for? This is sake. This is sake. This is sake for. For Pemcy. For Pemcy. For Pemcy.

Yeah, come on. So I like, I like how you did it, this sakey style. You went down. Yeah. We got to do sake bombs, man. Mm-mm. What? I do sake, not sake bombs.

Next episode, soggy bones. Okay, let's go. Um, next one. It's sake crazy. O.T. the Mexican or sauce waka. We had to drink it. Okay. Here we go.

Hey, you got one right here. Yeah. Shit. Salo. I ain't gonna lie. You are breaking drink champ's history. you got like five different drinks and five different cups you got different kinds of cups different more and a bottle yes just like it's a gun every time you might need a ball

with a day you got to just be prepared but yeah we we can't pick between them too man like i'm proud of mexican o t i love houston laurie t yeah we proud of mexican o t wrote the got a record with with mexican o t i just did a video with him and his artist droady and um we fuck with South Walker. You know, I'm on two records on this album. He got a dope record with Roe, I'm So Houston. Like, the dope part about Houston, man, like the mature people that grew up, we on some real good money shit.

We on some, you know, throw each other alley who's behind the scenes. Like, you might not see us with each other every day. Right. But when we see each other, we go show love. I love Houston loyalty. We go turn up. But behind the scenes, hey, this guy want to book you, Roe. Hey, here goes some money.

Hey, come to eight. time bingo, we got you, Kiki. Come on, youngster. You're like, we're helping each other make money. DJ Screw put us around each other for a reason. And the smart ones... Recipe G's school. Yeah, man. Let's take a shot to that. Let's take a shot to that.

For real. Let me ask you something that might like throw off the situation a little bit. It's all good. We bill for it. In New York, we have Puerto Ricans, right? Okay. Puerto Ricans For the most part I want to say they

They think they black Or they Identify with being black Okay Mexicans is your version of Puerto Ricans Right He's the young Mexican rapper say nigger a lot

young Puerto Rican rappers when they said nigger back then I didn't take offense to it but now that I'm older I'm like I kind of like notice it maybe I don't take offense to it

but I notice it is that a problem with you guys like when you see a young 18 year old saying nigger nika nigga nika nika nika nika and he's Mexican

and technically he's not a nigger, right? Maybe he has the nigger influence, sorry. But if that man is cornered in the elevator with your great-grandmother, your great-grandmother is not going to identify with him using that word. Is that a problem for you guys or no? That's a deep question.

I killed that. I feel like my answer short. Like, for me, it don't offend me. I don't let words offend me. Okay. I mean, if it was to offend me, it would have to be said, you know, nigger. With the ER. With the ER.

But at the same time, I still don't let words offend me. Right. Me, personally. You feel what I'm saying? Yeah. It don't bother me, you know what I'm saying? But the ER might bother me. Okay.

I'm going to have to agree. I'm not going to let it bother me, per se. I kind of know, like, if it's a young person, they're going to get their turn to see that that's not appropriate. It's not appropriate. It's not appropriate. But the thing is, like how you say, they might be in a nigger environment.

Yeah. And I can't get mad at them because somebody else has been calling them a whole lot. So you ain't going to call the motherfucker a nigger unless you been getting called that shit. And it was probably like, damn, I'm a nigger. And it's probably the norm for that

person until they get to somewhere where the norm is getting fucked up for saying that shit. Because what I'm noticing is people who are not black. They've adopted it. Yeah, they adopted it

way more than black people. Yeah. And I at first was like, I was cool with it, but I'm not no more. Right. Like, I'm not, like, I actually point that out. Like, I seen a dude. Don't cry. Oh, I ain't going to cry. I'm going to take a shot.

Take a shot. Let's go. Let's go. I'm going to take a shot. Yeah, but. Are you having intervention with Boris, man? Absolutely. Boris.

Everyone, everyone, I'm having an intervention. invention, like what, what everybody who is affiliated to black people, but you're not black people, including Puerto Ricans, including Mexicans, including Mexicans, including, like, that's, my grandmother's not going to understand that you're a cool Mexican. my grandmother's not going to understand that you're a cool fucking Puerto Rican my grandmother's not going to understand that if we're in the elevator

and you call EFN, what's up, my nigga? Yeah. It's not, it's not, to me that's not cool. Now I'm 48 years old. I just had a birthday. Y'all can bring some noise for me.

You don't know how many times you was here about me. a nigga, though. I don't want to be, I don't want to be everybody nigga. I know you don't. And his was fucked up about this.

I got to tell you when you was my nigga though. Okay. The Wednesday bitch. The Tuesday bitch. I was talking to Wednesday business? Yeah, yeah.

Hey, man, that's, that's my nigger, man. That's, my nigger, man. You're really. You stay. You stayed. You said, you know.

I was going to get into my brother, you know. But, no, no, but it's real. Um, I, uh, America's divided right now. It's divided, but the dope part of this is a thing.

Even though, like, our great-grandm, you know, grandmothers and they live a certain way, times have changed. So it's on us to reprogram ourselves and not be brainwashed about what they try to tell us. Oh, you can't, you know, be successful if you don't go to college or you can't do this. You can't start out being a CEO. I did it. Right. Like, damn, that's real. For the beginning of my career, I've been a CEO.

That's weird. Most artists, like, they start off rapping. I'm under this guy. I'm under this guy. I started off as a CEO. That's real. So I always had a boss mentality. So it's on us to reprogram ourselves and not have to go by the old traditions

because a lot of the old traditions was based on what was going on back then. Right. Now, like, music is uniting people. Different races is coming together. Different people collaborating, different genres. Like, this shit is a blessing. You know what I'm saying? And that info's got to get passed down, too.

Exactly. It has to be passed down. So we just got to go. The OG's got to be OGs and keep passing it down. Exactly. And that's what we're here for. We ain't here telling the people to go do some dumb shit or go jeopardize your life or some dumb shit.

Like, if you listen to Kings of the South, too, like, we really on some grown men shit. Like, pay your bills. Watch out for fake homies. Like, look out for the people that's locked up that looked out for you. Like, we really on that motherfucker talking. It's about the message, you know what I mean? A lot of people, they're just rapping and they ain't really telling you nothing. We got some messages in there.

Like, we want you to make money. We want you to watch out for the snakes. We want you to take care of your kids. We want you to spend time with your kids. We want you to value your life. So we come on some righteous shit. But, you know, but if you play, then, you know, we got to show you the other side. But we're trying to stay in Christianmingle.com.

We're trying to stay in that mode. No, you gave me the alley-U. Because. Well, you're on Christianmingle.com? Come on. You're married, man. No, I'm on Christians. Right?

But Christian, all right, this is, this is the king of the South shit. Woo! We ain't finished quick time. You know, though. Let's go. Yeah, finish. Hold that down, bro, after quick time. Here we go.

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Biggie or big punch? Now y'all can pick people if you want. I'm taking a shot. Yeah, he just said, fuck it. Bro, I fuck with both of them. Rest and peace with both of them, by the way. Yeah, I fuck with both of them. Like, come on, man, you can't.

Zero, you can't pick some. You can't lead the witness. Don't lead the, I just, I just say he could pick something. Thank you. I plead the fifth I plead the fifth I agree with you man both of them legends like

if you say some shit there where it's somebody they got to get picked over we go really pick like no no no I know I know y'all name

yeah these people like they both they both brought some shit to the game we know what Biggie Brown and Paul was saying some shit he was rapping fads a lot of time

but if you listen to what the fuck you was never on loud I was on loud Yeah, I was like, okay, okay, okay. I was on Loud and Columbia, so I got to be like to make with pun and then Beyonce and by a while. Like it was crazy. Best above worlds. You had one leg, one, one, and the other.

I love it. Menace to society or boys in the hood? Hmm. How are you feeling about that one? See, that's some shit that we might be able to pick from when we can go back home. Man, it's just society or boys in the hood. Damn, I'm gonna tell you might. What you got?

What you got? Well, a nigga, no cube, too, though. I know. Both of the movies was in Flip and Flew. He made me perform at the Big Three. Me too. And Danes in the Hill was the first one. Boy, in the first.

I let the witness again. Boys in the Hood was, yeah, yeah, absolutely. That was the first. I always say the first. The first of in my, if I had to send it, would be the pick. Yeah, I'm a, I'm a pick, I'm a pick, boys in the... If you're conflicted. Yeah, like, last night I just did a record.

I don't get a fuck about your bitch-ass daddy. No, I don't know. And the record I did for Creeks, uh, Crook. I mean, Cooke, I'm talking about Cooke. Only I say, uh, we boys in the hood, some shit. You don't get shot in the back like Ricky. So, no, boys, boys in the hood. I have to pick boys in the hood.

I did watch Boys in the Hood more than I watched Don't be a menace, but don't be a menace man that shit. Well, no. Don't be a menace was good, too, but that was a comedy. Yeah, that was a comedy. For Menace's to start, it was some shit in there, but Boys in the Hood, man. MCA was ill in Menace's Society. He was, he was, doll, but like.

You need some help me. He would be good with his daddy and all that, like sneaking in the girl house and all that kind of shit, like. Oh, yeah, when he hit the wall? Yeah. Not the wall that had no wall? The hell, yeah. And then that sex

I was tired of shit Yeah I got to go with that The boy was tired of that shit All right Switch your house or screwed up Screwed up, please We got

No hate No hate Oh y'all picked That very fast I ain't know That's the fastest shit I ever Shout out to Slam We've been here all day

I'm taking a shot I'm going to take a shot. I'm going to take a shot because I'm so proud of y'all making that fast. And I started to wear my three-up clean chain. See, that's this, man, goddamn. Shit, I want one of those chains. Screwed-up clips. Yeah.

Ah, man, it's a lot of stuff that, man, bro. I can't get one. You can be like, you be fifth generation. I'll be 55th. I got to get you freestyle and then we got to screw it. Yeah, chop me up. Yeah, you got to screw it up. Yeah, you got screwing.

And then we got screws it. first you got to slow down I got to low it down I'm sure they've done it to your records A hundred percent Yeah 100 percent Many times

Fucking them No I'm throwing a screwed up click Turned up click Holy shit Holy shit Let me look at that I'm not

Yeah I'm a sweat Nah I trust you We fan Come on Come on Since y'all I brought it up I'm a representative

To shoot up We go Damn That shit is clean We go Yo Oh, you killed that. And look.

I started to win it. Because you got to, we got to drop the little. Man, it's how good. That's what they know me as. But I'm big flip now. You're big flip. But in the catalog, when you Google my name and all that kind of. It's still representing you, man.

We're going to keep a little. But yeah. We're big flip in real life. Let's go. Yes, yes. Let's go. Let's go. Let's look at me representing that shit.

Hey, look at that. Screwed up, clip. Fim generation. Schooled up, click. Oh, my God. And you did it right. you did it right hold on hold on I look how I'm holding it

because I don't I don't want to fuck up TV Johnny no King Johnny King Johnny King Johnny It's a difference Okay okay Yeah it's a difference I tell us the difference

King Johnny is the guy who made all the screwed up click Jerry now is that in the gallery He actually is in He got Kings flea He has Kings flea market and he's in Sharp's time mile But what they changed it to What's the new name

They changed the name to Sharp's time mile But for me, it's going to fail to be sharp's time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this is the first time you debut in the schooled-up? No, no, no. I just, it depends on the mood. Okay.

But I, you know, free my brother Castor, I'll be wearing this. This represent three faces. Oh, my brother Castor, he locked up. You know what I mean? So I'd be representing for him because he did some real shit for me and people that do real shit for me, even if they locked up or even if they did, I do what I got to do to keep their name alive.

That's why you Well, no, Jamie had some facts What was it, Jamie? No, what was it? What were you saying? Did they come out Someone came out a song About Johnny recently

About that Mexican OT did the record called Jenny Dan There you go, thank you Jamie Oh Yeah, but that's That's the different journey From the one I'm talking about

Okay But we fuck with TV Johnny Oh, okay Okay, okay So no thank you No thank you Jamie She was right You're right

The wrong She was right We ain't no haters, bro. We're on some grown men. It's enough money for everybody. Yes. All right. Fat, pat or big pokey?

Ooh, shit. Take a shot? Damn. Of course. There we go. Houston is so loyal. I love how they so loyal, bro. We ain't choosing over them.

Man, we screwed up clips. Shit. Go ahead. Man, R.R.P. The boat for them. All right. Yeah. Man, for real.

Legends. man, I hate both of them not here, man. I hate Pat didn't get to see the release of his album. That's terrible. Like, man, our culture, man, we got some real trends that it's like the dope part about it, bro. Like, just like people on the East Coast, they hold, you know, Jay-Z and Oz to this high, you know. The Northeast Coast, let's just be correct in the Northeast. Straight up.

But like, straight up. Take that shit up with a picture. Like, that's how we feel about DJ True and Fat Pad and Poky and Hawk and all the lefties. Like, we rap with them. We don't look at ourselves like, oh, yeah, we're less than. Like, we really did some legendary shit, man. Oh, hell yeah. And to be a part of the screwed up clicking for DJ Screw to really allow us to come to his house and freestyle and showcase our talent and not be a greedy person and sign us all.

You know, DJ's group, he could have been like, I'm signing all of y'all. And he could have been a billionaire. But you think he knew what he had, like, at the time? I think he knew what he had. Because I feel like it was so early, he might not have known how big it would have been to be. He didn't want it. He was making something. He didn't want that.

No. I know. I'm with you, Flip. I think that he knew that and I think he was that genuine. He didn't want their responsibility. Yeah. Right, yeah. I can respect that.

He told us how to be famous and still live a normal life. Most people are slaves to their fame. They can't go to the grocery store without people everywhere. Like, oh, like, like, we really get to be famous. bro and still go to the grocery store you know what I mean like so we're not slaves to our fame so for a person like DJ Screw

to let us come in yeah I think I believe that and he won a Justo Mix tape Award like he had a ring yeah you know so DJ Screw man and that was it Yeah I got a Justo Mixedip Award You do it? Yeah I got it in my office man Yeah Recipe and Justo I have Screw Andrew

Yeah Yeah Yeah recipe and Just do it a lot for the mixtape DJs Yeah, hold on, come on A shot. Let's go This is one This one

This one Yeah I'm with you, bro Hey, Oh man I'm a G I'm a pro now

Like my bad My bad bro Hey He's swinging on you I have I have Pro-9 Taking shots

Yeah The next one Oh man But I have I Pause Analog or digital Recording-wise

obviously. Analog. I didn't expect you to say analog. Analog, fuck that. I'm sorry. It doesn't matter. So I'm probably, I got to take a shot right.

Oh yeah, you're saying neither. I'm not taking a shot that I want to. It don't fucking matter because when you when you are pro, when you are pro it, you just go get on their mic and go, you know, pause. That point. But the analog do sound better, though.

analog was dope Yeah it's full No Yeah like analog was dope Like Me I don't give a fuck But we probably wouldn't Couldn't survive

An analog today Because I just got some dope-ass plug-ins And some shit to make me still sound dope Thanks to my brothers For putting me on the type of mic And the system to get You know what I mean? So

I don't give a fuck When you're a pro You just do what you do Right Rough Riders or Rockefeller all right peter dmx you got the dmx story of course tell us

so i was labor-mates with dmx he eventually came to you know columbia right but i'm cool with the rough riders too like d n y and all right cassidy is my bro like if you're looking to turn it up video i have on a three cassidy shirt you know i mean so i'm down with the rough riders um what video was that

we were in ATL. We did the video for Tear It Up with Young One. So the beat signed the artist named Young. Yeah, that one was crazy, too. Yeah, that's like the bands, they'd be playing this shit.

So me, David Vanner and Young One and DMX is on the hook. We did the video in Atlanta, bro. And, um, X was like, I mean, you got something to smoke, bro? I'm like, yeah, here you go. He was like, he saw the blunt that I wrote

because, like, back then, like, all the blunts we rolled was like 3.5s, we'll take, like, you know, two Philly blunts and put them sidewise, side what? Like, tell them, bro. Mr. Lee, don't get turned on. We really were smoking bad-ass blunts like this, like, look like real

Cuban cigars. Sideways, and then we'll smoke. And Hicks was like, you're going to put all that weed in that one fucking blunt? I'm like, yeah, because we're trying to really get high. Like, you know what I mean? We really want to go there. You know what I'm saying? And he was just like,

You say y'all down south niggas y'all crazy me y'all fucking be you know but but x was just always a dope-ass a dope-ass person a real person he reminded me a lot about dj screw because like screw didn't let the fan go to his head one thing about DMX if he fuck with he if he wants to tackle bill he wants to the tackle bill he ain't gonna be a slave to his fame right you know like he was just like be y'all tics his niggins smoke them big ass blunts boy y'all motherfuckers crazy yeah Yeah, so Redis beats the DMX. Yeah, man. You got more? Yeah, we got a couple. Relax. Ice cube or the DOC. And that's Texas, too. I'm going to take a shot, man.

Ice cube's not from Texas. No, the DOC is from Texas. Yeah. That's why they call this shit drink, champ. Yeah, we ain't going to pick God, damn. Any stories with either of them? I mean, I interviewed DEOC on my podcast

when I was doing the podcast. I'm going to bring it back. You got to bring it back. Yeah, you got to. We got distribution now. We ain't had the interview back then. But let's chop it up, man. You know what I'm saying?

It's going to be a new co-host with me. I'm trying to get roped to, you know what I'm saying? I don't know that so we can get some of that money like Cam and May's getting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. podcast but jump in jump in y'all seem more happier from the last time you saw

yeah from the last time I saw y'all y'all seem more happier so yeah man we're gonna talk about how to see positive mouth man I'm sorry keep talking hey we still here though he can't be real no I love it can I get a little bit more go ahead

so um what happened no he said he said he's they interviewed DOC in his podcast I understand I interviewed him and he just talked about like his experience being on the West Coast and a lot of people don't know RIP the 3-2. But he's from Dallas.

He's from Dallas. Yes. 3-2 used to be on the West Coast and like when you saw me do that like no fingerprints we get that from Mr. 3-2. Yeah, R-R-I-P to 3-2 so we do that to keep his name alive. No fingerprints. And that's a Texas thing though, right? 3-2 used to do it all the time.

Hey, you ain't got that. Lingo that's human. You were like I take my dad back. 3-2 brought some of that. He was hanging around Snoop and He's just a fly guy, you know what I mean? So, yeah, now, these DOC, man, him representing, you know, we hate it about the car crash and him losing it. Right, right. But AI got him.

We go out. He's the AI guy. I mean, Beanie Segal's killing it right now with the AI. So D.O.C. could definitely do that right now. Oh, he's fucking with the AIS? No, and it sounds, no, it's, it's right. Oh, my God. It's working.

Hey, Benny Siegel was one of my favorite rappers. He said he's doing AI. Yeah, he got to join. He got, we're doing an album with. Yeah, where's Jada Kid. With Jada kiss, yeah, and Freway's executive producing or something, right? And he's using AI settings. He's using AI to fix the voice.

So he's doing the lyrics. Like, he's spitting it. Yeah, and then the AI's picked him. For real. Nah, it sounds like him, 100%. Hego is one of the illest lyricists ever. Yeah, so DOC could do it. Does DOC's crew go back?

Like, y'all go back with that, Feel of Fresh crew and, like, that whole vibe? We, I was, I was young. Like, we didn't, we didn't really know. It's in the 80s. Yeah, I mean, I remember the fresh cook because that's one with the NWA and the posse tape. Right, you're stupid, bro.

He's stupid, bro. My bad. That was way before they. Hold on, man. I got to add something, man. So, hold on. Beanie, like, Beni alive.

Yeah. What you think he was dead? No, I know he a lot. No, he lost his voice. Who? Beanie's evil. Yeah. Like from when he got shot

Like I think one lung So he came on drink champs And he was already talking about AI As DOC was Okay okay okay They was trying to figure out If that technology was gonna help them Recreate their voice

Okay And right now Beanie got to join out With Jada kiss Where they used it And it worked And it worked Okay okay Okay

It don't sound weird at all Yeah Well you thought we was I mean We ain't answer no questions So I'm kind of there. There's been a lot of these. And they're talking about, like, I can see

if he was, like, Pac and, like, but, like, Beanie, that nigga up the street. Yeah, no, he's outside. Yeah, no, he's outside. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, he's good. I believe, I believe. You're going to show him, Flip? If I'm not mistaken.

But I thought he was going to show him the joints. Nah, nah, no, I'm sitting here. If I'm not mistaken, I believe, hey, this is my, this is my friend right here. and he told me that AI tells Who are you talking about me? Yeah, I'm talking about you. You're right here. No, I ain't see who you was pointing at.

No, and you tell me that AI tells you sometimes where are you at? AI fucking everything up. Where's your kids? Yeah. And you say certain things. I had no idea that that can do that for vocals. Yeah, I could do anything. Look, hold on.

I'm going to see if I can pull this. I think AI was fixing people credit. I want to fixing people credit. You know, shot at my guy, Lee, like, you know what I'm saying, Lee. Oh, fuck, no. He just made Mr. Mr. Lee's like, yeah, fuck me out. We made that shit happen, man.

That's my name. There's been a lot of schedules. We love y'all. We love y'all. We want to. You fuck him any time, man. We had to do with some scheduling, man. We were supposed to come out here with our bag, man.

But we figured it out. So I always like to shout out the people behind the same news, man. The people behind the scenes, man. Make some look, get out. We made this shit happen, man. This is going to be an epic episode. Hell yeah. Cheers to that.

Salute. You know, you got your shot right there if you want to. I'm a jeep. I'm going to drink. I'm going to drink. You got a seven different glasses. He's definitely drinking. He's like, I don't know, this one maybe.

This will have a Hall of Famer now. That's crazy. Even the Sprite got some shit in it. I don't know what the Sprite got in it. Is that lean? But the Sprite got some shit in it, man. It's my prescription mixed with exotic. It's prescription.

It is. At some point, I'm going to take a sip. I was just throwing it out there. Okay. You need a little cup of eye. Yeah, a little come out. Oh, your ticket's old.

No, don't do that. You're out of control. You're about to go back to Bad Bunny right now if you drink that shit. and you win i can't even like argue back with you go ahead go uh rick ross and two chains i fuck with both of them i got history both with both let's talk about it when ross dropped poor to miami what was the club on i don't know if it was south it was in south beach but cameo was it uh man

Opium Opium, yep Opium He had his release party Buster Rines was in that bitch Jay Z was in that bitch Yeah, because Jay signed him Yeah, he was playing that music

And I was able to be down here We went to the studio That's when he was doing business with Poboy We actually did a push it to the limit remix I actually rapped on it It never came out But it did it I don't have to put you around the mixtet

Yeah I did a Dammit Man remix with Pitbull before he started. That man, you know, with Piccolo and those? Wayne was on there, like, but like being out here with Rick Ross. And who was the other name, you said? Tootane. And then with To Chains, like, even though I was super cool with Ludacris, every time I link with somebody who's in the crew,

it's other people that I fuck with, you know, that's in the crew. So I fuck with Ludacris. We'll do our musings together, but me and Tuchins, well, he went by Titt, you know, back in the crew. For people, I don't know you're talking about when he was part of DTP. Correct. People might not know that part. If you listen to, you got a filmy album, the first song on there is called Bring the Pain featuring RIP, the Static Major, Kentucky, what to do, Louisville.

Rest the beast. I put Titty Boy on there, but it's me Titty Boy and Ludacris. So, like, we would always fuck around with each other. So, like, our relationship was super dope. So when he started, like, really blowing up and he switched his name and reinvented this. myself, like, I was proud of them. You know what I mean? So, yeah, I put both of them.

Can you take it a chat or we already took a shot? We took a shot. Yeah, we took it. You can take another one if you want. Go ahead, man. Do you think, man. Live your best life right now. Next one, next one.

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The I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you go to find your podcast. Willie D. Live or Joe Bunn podcast? Damn. God, I'm up like this. Can't go against Willie D. Can't go against Willie D.

And what is he doing his thing on the podcast? Yeah, that's shit too. Like, I watch both. You know what I watch both? Like, they both bring. Because you light skin. As a light skin, you got to watch Joe Biden. I support both. I support both.

I'm taking a shot, bro. You're tapping without a run, though. We still, you tell him without? You tell him about that? Oh, look. I found out. If you got to take a break, take the break. I ain't going to lie.

You going with Willie D? I got to. I'm going to have shout out to Joe Button, but I got to go home. Straight up, straight up. Willie D's doing it right now, man. Hey, he's the super legend.

That's a big bro, too. And Willie D. beat you up. I'm going to beat a couple of people up, man. He don't beat a couple of people up, man. Yo, Willie D. got hands. I don't know if you know that. I think he was a certified boxer, I think.

I don't know. He's a certified boxer, too. Oh, yeah? But we respect Willie D. Like, that's how brother. Yeah, Willie D will fuck the niggas off. He trained, this niggins trained every day. You know, like every four.

You make a nigga read these Nikes. That's a shout out to Wulidi. And he was boss about Nike? No, no, like, no, he got a song cop making a nigger read these Nikes. Like, like, Nike's in your eyes. No, I'm in your eyes. Now, I fuck with Winnie D, my brother.

Yeah, Willie D is knocking him out. You know, I fucking a buff of them, man. You know, it's just, look. I'm going to take my shot. Shout out. the both of them. Yeah, shot's the both of them. All right.

Odd Squad or Fifth Ward Boys. Oh, man. Take another shot? Well, y'all, niggas crazy. The Oz squad. That's a cocaine section. That's the, that's who makes that shit. She's the Dominican and, uh, cocaine.

Here we go. Yeah. Odd squad or who? Or the Fifth War. But you got a shot right here. He won't be on this, that shit. That's sake. I told you, I'm a pro now, nigga.

Yeah, yeah, you've been a pro. Shout out to Devin the dude, man. I think Devin the dude, man, we need Devin to do it on drink chance. Y'all ain't got Devin yet? Nah, man. I'm going to get y'all Mike Jones. He's the illest, man. I'm going to get y'all Devin.

I got y'all, Z, bro. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We need more Texas representation on Drake Chance. They've been coming at us. But I asked for this, too, though. Yeah. No, no, they've been coming at us.

We appreciate you coming. Where the fuck up? Yeah. Can you get me? me on drink champs. They'd be like zero. How you get to have zero? Like I don't know. Like I don't know it, man.

But I was only me. No, no, no, no. No, we good. We made that. Yeah, we made that. And it ain't even a month later. We're going to keep it going. That's manifest of shit.

And now we're going to do one with you by yourself. And again, future shots. Future shots. Future. You're all by yourself. Take it for the future. Future shots. Future shots.

You know, we got to doubt that. Future shots. Before we asked you a question, we don't be like YouTube shots. That's what I'm talking about the artists. Y'all like that. That was it. You know, dope, man.

I ain't fucking shit up. Boosie or Kevin Gates? God damn. But y'all, niggas. Y'all crazy. Hey, we definitely go hold it down for the South. Nick, I ain't picking. Hey, man.

He's a fuck picking. Both, niggas. I'm glad you driving man, God. I got you. Nah, you can't No, no, no. Who drives?

Who's driving? I mean, that guy. Oh, my bad. I thought you were pouring at Boris. I was like, Boris cannot drive nowhere. He can't drive me, man.

You can't drive me. You got to grow up. I'm talking about in real life. All right, so we said both. Both, both. Well, y'all should I go? Oh, yeah, yeah.

I took okay, cool. I ain't taken much. Yeah, I didn't take money. Yeah, I want to try some mama. Manawana real quick? You've been drinking everything, so you might as well try it. I'll take one. Hey, Jamie, give him a shot of mawana. A who?

Mamawana. It's the Dominican elixir. I'm going to be honest. Little flip is the illest drink everything. Drink champ. I feel like if we said, listen, Boris got a juice on his armpit. No to nothing. That's, I'm a cold with this shit, man.

No, I'm picking you up. No, that's enough. Don't give him more than that. I'm a G, bro. It's good. It's good. No, I'm a G. If it ain't, it's cool.

I'm a G. It's good. I'm telling you. I just want to drink it no more after that. Are you taking in safe pocket? Oh, shit. All right. Yeah.

ESG or a chamellionaire. Man, I ain't going to go against my brothers. I ain't. Oh, wait. I got this shot. All right. Well, yeah. You're done?

Zero. Like, zero is casting on. Zero's. You got zero drinks right now. Hold on, hold on. Say, what you got? You got the answer? Because I'm taking both.

We drank already. I got to go home. I got to go home. Yeah, I'm taking both. So you got to take him shot. Yeah. I'm trying to move to Houston, so. Yeah, we didn't.

We didn't take any one, man. I think this shit going to be, yeah, just no. Yeah, our brothers, we, hey. I love the fact. I love Houston. We ain't going against. Hey, we ain't going against it, man. We're here for unity, bro.

We ain't here for division. Absolutely. Like, really? All right. Rap a lot of Swave House. Damn. We got to go back home, man. I mean, we're going to pick rap a lot.

But give us stories or something, man. We fuck with both. But we're going to go with, I mean, we got to pick it. It's rap a lot. I mean, like, they showed us to Black Trent to how you got to do this. Look, look, let me tell you a story. I went to Funger in Middle School.

I went to middle school with a guy by the name of Cedric White, Tulo. He had a record with Scarface. Yeah, he was black. He had a record with Scarface called a Fonky Little Nigger, the Funky Little Brother. On Scarface album, I think it was called The World is Yours. So I was in middle school going to school with a guy named Touloulo who actually wrapped and had music videos with Scarface.

That's crazy. So he showed me like you can be a kid. It's attainable. You can be a kid and make some money. You dig what I'm saying? So yeah, no, it's always going to be, we're going to go with rap a lot.

And we got love for Swabhouse. We fuck with Abel, MJ, G, T,la, Mr. Mike, everybody, you know, all that. But, yeah, now, we got to pick rap a lot on that, man. What's you got? Both of them. I can't do it. Straight up.

I can't do it because I'm going to see Tony Drake at Houston's and I'm going to see Jay Prince at the boxing gym. Not for show. Got me fucked up. Shout out to both of them, man. Shut up.

Cash money or no limit? Might work keep the cup up. He's like, don't put the cup down. I'm going to go with both. They both brought shit to the game, man. I ain't go. You work with both of them? Both y'all?

Yeah, I work. repeat i did business with p i did business if you look at the movie baller blocking i'm in the movie it's a it's a scene where it's like a shootout or whatever and like c-node and the body boys they brought me up to i'm in the movie baller blocking like in the party scene and that was around the same time they had the cash money and the rough riders tour right so we was at a cash money party where they brought out plaques and binleys and i think it was like slim birthday and they all got like tattoos and dmx was there drag on eve like yeah so we got to go with both and and p he he spent money with me and in book shows and and we learned a lot like master p was the motherfucker who would

drop 20 albums in one month yeah no he was going crazy yeah no limit was wild with the album drops Independent or major label? Independent. I love to make a home. I'm going to say independent. Being with a major label gets you in, like, more markets and gets you more, like, exposure. Marketing in dollars, but behind you.

So it was cool for me to, you know, get the fan base and get the radio spins and get the contacts and be on TRL and the 106 in parks, you know what I mean? But at the end of the day, the person who keeps their context is the person who eats forever. You know what I mean? So being able to drop when you won't and don't have to go through this system and all that. So I prefer independent over being on a major, but I got what I need to get from the major. So when you was on the major, you was already thinking independent and grabbing these contacts. Yeah.

You knew I needed this. Even when I was on a major label, I never operated like I was on a major. label right like we still pressed up our own posters because you had already had that history for yourself correct right so we were still just moving like we wanted to move like it's a contact game like if you keep the contact and you travel and you get the promoters numbers and the artist's phone numbers you go eat forever yeah the saying is your network is your net worth that's what they say right all right i think we got the last one go ahead chigo loyalty or respect loyalty

respect yeah you you did that for drink you did that for drink chefs I mean I did that shit for my life no

that was fine yeah I did that for my life I prefer I prefer both some people like oh yeah I want the loyalty love

that's the best answer I want to respect I want to go because I'm going to talk a motherfucker if I hope fuck with you, I'll fuck with you. I ain't go half-ass fuck with you.

Like, if I fuck with you, we're going out a lot. You know what I mean? I don't do the half-ass shit, so yeah, I need both. What about you? Both of them. Damn, that means we got to take a shot. Yeah, go for a movie. Let me see.

It's a shot already. Hold on. It's shot o'clock. That's where. Let me ask y'all, come and from the mixtape game, right? I mean, I come from the mixtape game. I know both y'all come from the mixtape game

when it was analog. Right. This is how I feel like independent works. Out the trunk worked. Texas, the Bay, Miami, like the south. I think really is how we were able to like sustain ourselves selling music, you know?

How does that translate now in the digital world? Like, what's the difference for y'all right now? from that era with screwed mixtape, DJ screwing mixtapes to now, like, how does that translate? Yeah. It was more money back then, like selling hard copies or whatever, but working and staying a part of your craft and, like, not budging on your price, you know, keeping your mystique. Like, whatever your formula is, like, Roe got his own formula, what he does what works for him. I got my own formula, what works for me. So I just look at it like, we own some yin and yang shit.

We don't think the same all the time, but we think the same, like, 98% of the time. So we just do what our fans love from him. Like, like, the shit that his fans love from him. He does what he do, and I do the same thing. So it's just about not compromising who you are as a person and just really working. But what's the adjust of the change, though, like monetary? Like before you could literally sell it out the trunk, sell all these mixtapes. You could go platinum as a mixtape artist.

That's different now because it's streaming. So how does that, how did you adjust to that? Like, how do y'all adjusts in a market like Texas where that was big? We got a core following. Does it go to shows now more than anything? If you go to Facebook, he got a thing called Roeheads. Shout out to the Roeheads. Oh, that's the fans, right?

That's what they... No, I can't call them. No, I hear you. I don't like calling fans fans. I get that 100%. And then I got Flip Nation. And we just feed our people. They just believe in what we do, bro.

Like, we just do what we do at the pace we want to do. Right. So you do merch drops. we just unapologetically we be us we don't have to change who we are they love us for who we are we draw when we want to drive we move when we want to move and they appreciate it

well worded well worthy thank you for coming through fellow hanging to the lifestyle too is how right now get that get his album on comedy wrote to Call me roll to you

You know shout out to Ahtown Bingo shout out to Up Above Entertainment and we work and thank y'all for having us

Nah thank y'all for coming through Hey we're the drink champs Hey man make some noise from flip and zero We're out here man

Shout out to Timothy Lans man looking out we're shooting a video to Miami we need you in our video We just need the intro

Tomorrow It's tomorrow We just need The intro from you We know In my mind I already We know you get that money, we know we got Lego chains.

And my mom. You know what I'm saying? And Mama, I already need five minutes of your time, man. It's going to work. It did five minutes, man. And, and my mom. I've already been there. We got you, man. Now, I must love, man, drink champs.

Hey. Yeah. I'm going to 50s zero. I'm going to put it down. I already been there. Yeah. It is. That's.

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