Drink Champs - Episode 478 w/ Mo Amer

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legendary, Mo Amer! In this candid, must-watch episode of Drink Champs, comedian and storyteller Mo Amer sits down with the champs for a no-holds-barred conversation that blends humor, heart, and insight. Across the table — drinks in hand — Mo reveals the journey behind his rise to fame, from grassroots comedy clubs to building his authentic voice in a world that often demands compromise. He opens up about identity, belonging, and what it means to use laughter as a lens for serious topics: immigration, cultural expectations, and the anxiety of representation. As the conversation unfolds, Mo shares backstage stories from his stand-up career, his creative process, and how his Palestinian-American roots continue to shape his work. He’s funny, raw, and refreshingly honest — taking the listeners behind the curtain of his success and setbacks. The episode doesn’t shy away from tough questions: What happens when being funny isn’t enough? How do you reconcile satire and sincerity in a divided world? And can comedy offer solace while still demanding accountability? By the end of the episode, Mo Amer proves himself not only as a gifted entertainer, but also as someone wrestling with the weight of lived experience — all while keeping you laughing and thinking long after the final toast. Make some noise for Mo Amer! 💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆   Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com   Follow: Drink Champs https://www.drinkchamps.com https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps   DJ EFN  https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions   N.O.R.E.  https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's right. Make some love! Now, we said that we want to, when we do this show, we want to give it to legends. We want to give it to people who has deserved it, who has earned this right. This brother here attacks politics, attacks, you know, real world issues, direct straight on got classic stand-up issues excuse me

I got issues too classic yeah yeah yeah classic issues too got classic two seasons on Netflix

if you haven't seen it you must be living under a rock because I'm in shock so in case you don't know what we're talking about we're talking about the one and only

motherfucker motherfucking mold in the building because I just thought about it because I'm looking at the cocaine section that we got over there cocaine section

that's Columbia be in right there. Then we got, where's Mr. Lee Dominican? You pointed out the Scarface accent. Are we good

if ICE run up in here right now? Probably not. I'm good. I got my paper. I'm good to go. Honestly,

I've been through enough at this point that I've been like, but I'll just roll with the punches at this point. I'm like, whenever I get out, this is going to be a hot

20 minutes of stand-up. That's how I think about shit. So is it true that you didn't get your papers for 20 years? That's absolutely true. So how does that, how does that work?

How do you navigate being in this country without papers because I'm going to give you my London story because I like your London story Jesus. Well, the thing is that you know, I was documented it wasn't undocumented so the way you do is you file for asylum

and the asylum proceedings take quite some time so before I even have my asylum granted it took 10 years and people think like when you get your asylum granted you become a citizen well no it's not the case. You get your asylum granted you wait five years to get your green card and once you get your green card you have to wait four years and nine months before

you apply for citizenship. So in totality, it took me almost 20 years. I'm a sky of 20 years. So let me ask you, then this is out of stupidity. No, it's fine. Does that happen for everybody getting their citizenship? Or does the guy from Scotland get his in six months? I mean, it depends.

I mean, each situation is different. But you started with asylum, though, so that's a whole different start. Yeah, it's a different thing. So if you file for asylum, it's his own process, and it does take time. You can't, like, skip the process. And they're so behind. that's so far behind in the court systems that it's just, you know, it's by chance.

And for us, we had all kinds of things that happened along the way that delayed it even further. I mean, my father passed away, Allah al-a-ahmo, he was, he had a lawyer and, you know, he had everything set up, and then once he passed, we didn't know who the lawyer was,

we had to kind of start over again. Like the stuff in the series, yeah, exactly what happened in the series. Exactly, that was a copy paste from episode seven in season one, where the, we'll finally get the, you know, we go into court, and hopefully that we're going to get our,

asylum granted. And then he says, I'm sorry. You know, I, uh, I, you know, once he realized who my father was, I was looking for him. I didn't know that he passed away. He got teary-eyed. He says it has to remove himself from the case for conflict and interest. And that delay there's another like eight months. You know what I mean? So it's just, it's just things just happen along the way. And I always, you know, take a stance of like, I'm a privileged refugee, right? Like, there's a lot of people that, yeah, I am privileged in a way. Like, yes, there was a struggle to get the paper. Yes, there was all these obstacles, but I was still in a situation where there was opportunity for me to grow and make it. I mean, look where I am here today.

So I'm very, very grateful for that. I'm very, very grateful. So I don't want to compare myself to others that are living in a tent or those that are like, they didn't even make it to the country because they died along the way. Like, there's some really, really serious conditions that refugees have to live under for most of their lives. It's not their entire life. So I don't want to necessarily, you know, I got to make sure that I point that out. Like, I'm very, very privileged, and I know that even though it was a massive struggle and a lot of turmoil to get over

and still work through, you know? It's got very serious. I love this shit. No, no, no, no, no. Every time I can come on, it becomes so damn serious. But you know what's crazy? Let me just say it. I was hoping this one would be more fun. No, no, no, I'm going to tell you something. What's crazy is me watching the specials, me watching the stand-up. That's what

your life kind of is. Like, you kind of make light of some very serious conversations, but you make it funny. And it's like, it's like, that's, that's, that's a gift in itself. Like, it's a natural reaction to these situations. Like, there's nothing else to do. Like, it's so fucking depressing, you have to create something funny out of it. And it's very natural. It's not forced. It's just by like, like, even in the series, I just decided to put my character through the most pressure cooker of a situation. The more awkward or difficult the situation was,

the funnier it gets, right? Okay. Or maybe even elicited some kind of reaction from the viewer. Like, that was my intent. And, yeah, that's what it does. It's just a natural reaction to the insanity happening around me. So let's talk about the series for a second, right? The fat guy in the series, I believe, season one, right? He had you in the corner. He had the guy.

For somebody, he's boxing. He's a gangster. Houston. Big guy. Who's the gangster from Houston that's related to Boston? Little J. No, this is no correlation at all. Stop trying to connect dogs.

He was just the best man for the role. I said, he just happened to be fan just like me. No, Nick, Doc, you stop smoking, leave, he got everybody pictures of his shit. I was talking this morning, and I was like, he takes he slick. I was like, instead of that being Little Jay. It's big that he flips it, but look, he's giving us clues.

He's at the boxing rate. He's at the box. I saw him as a conspiracy theory. No, the boxing ring is in third ward. I mean, shout out to the tray. It's another neighborhood that's close to my heart, just like A-Leaf, the neighborhood I grew up in, and that boxing gym was founded by my dear friend's father,

who was Reverend Ray Martin, and that Jim has, you know, has done a lot of great things for the community, and that's why I filmed it there. Okay, nothing to do with some... My bad, my bad. But I do do that shit. I do do do plant...

I absolutely, I do do, yes, I do do do as well. But I absolutely am very much... mindful about, you know, having little little things, seeds that I plant along the way, you know, little hidden gems along the way, yes. Because, like, even in the series, right? It's a part where you're a young man

and then they start cracking jokes. This is coffee, not Guinness. Okay, okay. Damn, I'm about that. I was about the question. It looks just like Guinness, too. I know. I ain't allowed to say that. I was going to keep it to myself. But, so it's a time, I guess it's a double entendre, right? You as a kid, you walk over.

These two kids are fighting. I believe they're both Mexicans. I mean, because they're playing the dozens, yeah. Yeah, right? And then you walk over, you laugh. And then one of the kids, like, start fighting on you. Now, here's the question that I have. Was that the first time you saw comedy?

Was that the correlation for that scene? Was it the first time you saw a comedy? Or that was the first time you was being American bullied? No, there's definitely that the first time I've seen comedy. The first time I've seen people play the dozens, where they just rag on each other's mothers, right? I've never seen that. As an Arab person, as a Muslim person,

that's the most sacred human being next to you is your mom. So I'm like, you know, and I had a British accent and shit. I was like, he's totally ragged on each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I don't know what the fuck he's talking about you said.

You know, does it? Nah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What is that? That's like, racking on the chest. Yeah, right, I can tell the way he was like a thorny everybody gets a turn, you know, that shit. Doesn't it is like a term like Richard Pryor, like that era, they don't like,

make your mama jokes, yeah. That's the first time as a Muslim, as an Arab god is just fresh off the country from, I went to a British English school. I heard people, your mom is so fat, everybody gets to turn her high. Your mom is so, you know, your mama gets around. She's like a doorknob, everybody gets to turn. I was like, what, though? I was like, what is going on?

It's just so, I'm sorry. Talking about each other's mummies. You know, it was just, you couldn't believe. Like, this is like, you know, there's a murder that's about to happen in our culture. If you talk about somebody's mom, like that. And this was just like, you know, just jokes. You know, I couldn't believe it. No, but I heard you talk, say, Arabic slang.

And you says, one in the Arabic slang is, fuck the pussy that you... Man, you slid out of him. Yeah, that was like, Jamaican. I was like, yo, talk your mother. I'm like, what the fuck? Who came first? Oh, the fucking poor.

Oh, shit. What can... Oh, wait a minute. Well, I have a joke about language. It's really, the joke, the essence of the joke is about language. It's the really funny when you talk about her. We're very dumb. No, I didn't not say it.

I have an American. I don't ever, I don't ever co-sign anything in the Northeast Bank. I want to keep my citizenship. I just got this pastures. I just had this passport. I've been very happy to travel the world to stand up. No, it's just like, it's a joke about, you know, language and how sophisticated languages. And I think it's just a funny turn to take, just to talk about, for giving an example about cursing in Arabic versus English.

And cursing in Arabic is a much, much more, you know, has a lot of impact after, like. It's, you know, like, you said, bro, you said it's one current. The movie, fuck the pussy you slithered out of, like, it's just fucking crazy, bro. It's so horrible. Yeah, like, what are you talking about? Like, this is impossible. Like, motherfucker is nothing. Like, you said, fuck you, yeah, all right.

You know what I mean? You said this one word that says, fuck your whole sister. Yeah, yeah, that's probably one of my favorite. It's your whole family. History. Your entire history, which means your entire history. Like my. Great, great, great, great.

All of them. End the one before that. Your entire, your whole DNA. Fuck your whole DNA. That, that is just diabolical. And it's not even, like, it's not even, like, filthy words come out of it.

It's just a sentence, like, Yilan Tarichick. That means, damn your history. That's so fucked up. What you know what means. This is a really, like, a very diverse conversation

we're happening right now. So how is it like, I want to learn how to find out of you. I don't know. I don't know what it was. It wasn't me about. Oh, shit. He just told me to me.

My mom was supposed to get out. No, I wouldn't know he's from Iraq. He needs to know these things. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm going to see that all here. Okay, so in New York. By the way, my stipendez sounds in the building. In New York, there's a area where he's from called Lefrak City. So when he came out with his group, Capone and Noriega,

Lefrax City became Iraq. They called it Iraq. And Queens is where it became Kuwait. Kuwait. Kupon was from Queensbridge. So is Kuwait and Iraq? So he needs to know this terms? Just kind of like, you know, those are very different places from where you come up.

But for years, I never corrected people. But also, Queenbridge. Why would I? People were like, hey, man, you're from Iraq. I'm like, sure I am. I'll take it. Okay. So what were we talking about?

Okay. Comedian. Comedian. That's when I was stuck in Japan. Yeah. Okay. London. Yes.

you said it's hard to get in London as well well no it was just like at that time when I didn't have a passport it was very difficult to get into a lot of different places but excuse me it's difficult to anywhere if you have a yeah exactly yeah what you have a what they do is they give you a refugee travel document right so I'm stateless bro it's not you got so many stories yeah it isn't it isn't like

it is but when you have literally no other option you don't think about it as like oh it's scary traveling with this there's nothing that's scary for you All it is, is like, you're just trying to get to the gig. So there's many, many situations where I had to, like, you know, I had to learn the law. I had to understand what my rights were. Most of the time I'm educating the lady that's checking me in or the person that's checking me in the airport. Yeah, I was like, no, according to the United Nations in 1948, when it was once it was founded,

this refugee travel document allows you to travel internationally while you're still seeking asylum in that respected country. And therefore, you know, regarding the rules of the United States and that respect to country that I'm visiting, They have a deal in place that allows me to travel there legally. Here's a document that Paul's... Like, here's my life. You can convince me just now. You convinced me. I was very good at.

Sometimes I would, like, mislead the agent a little bit to just let me go in. And then I would just take my chances once I got to that country. So it was kind of a situation pretty much on a regular basis. Yeah, yeah. I was, I was... Like case? Yeah, it is. No, 100%.

And my first gig was, I was like 19 years old. I'm going to Germany. Italy, Sicily, and I went to the German consulate the day I'm flying out to Germany. Like the most rookie-ass shit, the day you're flying out, you're going to see if you can actually go to the gig. Otherwise, you would have to be stayed. I would miss the whole gig. I was just the whole gig.

It's my whole livelihood. I have nothing else. And it was nuts because I get to the consulate. He goes, this might be the luckiest day of your life. I say, why? He said, because you have a refugee travel document that's issued by the United States, it is recognized by Germany, essentially as a. a passport, you don't need to enter

Germany with a visa. Additionally, you can travel to Italy legally because they just passed the Schengen law. I'm sorry if I'm mispronouncing that. Schengen law, which means once you enter a European country within the European Union, you can travel now domestically in the other countries

so you don't need a visa anymore. Once I knew that loophole, I was booking gigs in Holland. I was flying to Germany, go to Germany, get to train, go down to Amsterdam, because I was doing all kinds of moves like that just to get to where I need to get for the gig, yeah. So, is it God bless America for you? God bless America.

God bless everything. Okay. God bless everything all the time. I love the phone call. You can't do anything in the phone call that you made. It's like, never going to get it, never going again. Yeah, when I was trying to get my citizenship. Yeah, it was just like, I even forgot the bit.

That was so long ago. He mentioned you to the seven years ago. I don't even remember that bit. It's funny you referencing the first special because I feel like that was one of my favorite jokes. They're all in that. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny.

You know, the comedy. once you put out a special, those jokes go away in your brain. It's not your jokes no more. It's like an album. It's like an album. No, no, no, no. You still perform.

You're still performing. You're correct. You're still performing the songs from your album. With comedy, those jokes are gone. So we know them more than a comedian. Yes. Because we get in a... Yeah, I see him second looking at me.

I didn't beep that. Oh, yeah. It's the opposite. Like, hip-hop artists or musicians in general, they write their album in studio. They release the album. album, they tour the album. Comedians, we write the album live in front of the audience and we tour it like hell once we get it solidified, we film it, we release it, we don't know, we no longer

tour the album. Wow. It's the direct opposite. So, honestly not that fair. Because some people come to the shows and be like, they start throwing requests. And they start taking them to say that joke. It's a never, you, it's like, it's lose, lose really. Because every time they come out, they love the new material, but also they're like, oh, I wanted to see those stuff. They want the classics. If you ever do the old shit, they'll see you like, oh, I thought it was going to be new shit. So it's always a work in progress. All right. They're trying to, they, there's

talks to some comedians, like, doing, like, greatest hits and stuff. Yeah. Because there's some jokes that... So what would that consist of? There's just some jokes that are so famous to us that we love so much. But once the special comes out, they don't ever do those jokes again.

But was it always like that? Because there used to be regular albums put out by comedians. No, but it was different, though, because in those days, it was either just all or a few channels that existed. So you could release something and still essentially tour it because most people haven't seen it. It's before the specials.

Yeah. No, they had specials back there, but I'm saying like people. Specials are so big now. Yeah, they're so big. They still would tour them back in the day a little bit to a certain degree. Probably a lot more than today for sure. But I think that's the problem with new comedians today. Like they post everything on TikTok.

They post everything that they have on Instagram. And then people come out and watch them. doing the same jokes and they don't have enough material and that's not the way it goes you know you to save that and have patience there's no patience anymore about nurturing the art form and really really growing as a comedian as a stand-up and and then finding yourself and then being able to get in rhythm and understand like your process and then you just start just talking you don't even need to to depend on material right just go on stage and just do your thing you know what's the difference um i know you said earlier you said sometimes you say sometimes you think it's not fair right

the one thing that I think is really not fair is when like, like, you know, me doing this show, I started to like research, you know, the real chilling circuit, right? Because, you know, we had our version of the chilling circuit. Yeah. It was called Underground or Backpack, right? Yeah.

And we used to go to do these shows. But when I started to investigate the comedic world, I started to realize that it was a lot less comedians that made it, like, meaning, like, there was people that was on a bill with somebody that was getting $100 or, like, something like that. And I had never seen, you know, get the fuck out of here. Come on, like, when we first started, like, because what I'm saying is, like, if you get a little buzz in hip-hop, like, a bare minimum figure, you get, like, 25 or, like, 3K.

Yeah. Like, you get one big hit. You can eat off of that the rest of your life. Yes, yes, that's correct. Potentially. Potentially. I'm saying like one big bang or then that's it. Like, you can just chill.

When I looked at comedians and I looked at like somebody like maybe I would know from Staten Island and no one else knows, but he's from Staten Island and he's a funny white guy. And I'm like, I like him. And then I'm like, hey, you know, you know, you book him for a fucking $1535 bucks. He's like, what? And like, so that part was like mind blowing to me. Yeah, bro. My first gig, I think I made $25.

$25. You were touring. You would do these one-nighters. You had the chilling circuit, like you said, for yourselves. My circuit was throughout the South. So it was me, my Toyota Camry, and just driving to one-nighter after one-nighter. You just go seven hours this way before I used to make fun of this booker. Like, he's a motherfucker. Do you have a map? You know, goddamn, bro, I got to go up to Oklahoma. I got to come back to Temple, Texas. I got to go back to Oklahoma. I'm going to fuck is booking this. It was just really one time he called me. He was like, listen, I got you a middle of no desk on Friday. I got you a gig on Saturday in Muncie. I was like, where the fuck is Muncie? And then I looked it up. I was like, Muncie, Indiana. I was like, bro, I have to get off stage an hour before I go on to make it in time to Muncie, Indiana. It's a 24-hour drive. It's like

it's just absurd. But it was like $100 a gig that you can make. And if you come back with something, you are happy. But it's about, like, developing your art form, not really about the money. It's about the long term. It's like a forever promo run, it sounds like. Yeah. Like for artists, that's a promo

run, went on the road for free. You should go out there. You said promo. I got, I got it. Yeah, he just got to go like that, right? He just got to develop your material. You can grow up yourself as an artist, as a comedian, as, you know, is a slow, too, go.

And you figure out yourself, it's very, very slow. I mean, when I walked into the comedy showcase, when I was like 17 years old, my mentor, Danny Martinez, he looked at me. He saw me go up on stage, and he was like, he took me aside. He took me outside, actually. And he goes, listen, I've mentored a lot of comedians. They've gone on to have very successful careers. and he mapped out my entire life.

Wow. And, like, he told me every step of what my life is going to look like. And he told me I was going to have my own TV show. He told me, I'm going to have this. I'm going to have a specials. I'm going to do movies. He told me my whole life. He says, but it's going to take you 20 years.

And if you're in, great. I want, you know, you'll be my last student and you have to listen to everything I say. If you don't, don't waste my fucking time. Are you in? I was like, hell yeah. I'm in. same mentor to Ralphie Mae, you know, was a great comedian from Houston and Tishon Chanon, who wrote for SNL for many years and many, many other comedians that ended up having their own

specials and have their own success at their own levels, you know? So I was like, as a 17-year-old kid that had no real guidance. Yeah, I was 17. Yeah, I was 17, yeah. Wow. I started when I was 14 in high school doing stand-up in, like, my classes. After my dad died, I just, like, I skipped school. I was living, like, Ferris Buell's day off. I would wear, like, fake Rolex sister school and seldom host. Was that like a stop for law to do comedy back there? No, it's not a stuff for a lot.

It was just more of an unknown, you know? Nobody really knew. Nobody do stand up, like, especially in my family. My mom didn't understand it. I come from a very educated family and backgrounds. So it was like, it was weird for me not to go to college,

like bypass going to college and do stand-up comedy. She was just concerned for my future just like any parent would be, you know? What do you get when you mix 1950s? He's Hollywood, a Cuban musician with a dream, and one of the most iconic sitcoms of all time. You get Desi Arnaz, a trailblazer, a businessman, a husband, and maybe, most importantly, the first Latino to break prime time wide open. I'm Wilmer Valderrama, and yes, I grew up watching him, probably just like you and millions of others. But for me, I saw myself in his story.

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They lose it. They actually lose it. They sort of went nuts. Until one night, everything spins out of control. Listen to Hell in Heaven on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I was telling somebody the other day, like, it takes a long time to get good at stand-up. Because look, even as a DJ, right, if you have a shit gig in a bar, you get three hours. And you practice it for three hours, right? Like, maybe there's 10 people in there and you, like, you rocking the three hours.

You're on your stuff. You practice in as much as you can. stand up, you get 10 or 15 minutes. And it might be a dude in there telling you, suck his dick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, you got to get good at something. It's really cliquished. Where you only get 10, I mean, bro, 10, 15 minutes means you have a good set.

Open mics is four minutes. Maybe somebody lets you open up for five minutes. Like, when I was on the radio in New York and all these comedians would come do Carolines, I'd be like, yo, can I open up? Five minutes before the show. Before the host. And that five minutes is taking as their five minutes, or that five minutes is, like, in the air? No, there's a certain amount of opening.

Like, look, if he has 30 minutes and you say to him, can I get five minutes? No, no, no, no. He doesn't get 30 minutes anymore? No, there's a lot of time before. It depends, but usually there's a lot of time for whatever. Whoever's opening, just give them whatever time. Okay. Unless, because sometimes there's back-to-back shows on weekends.

Most of the time, it is back-to-back shows. So, therefore, the first show is affected by the second show. So you got to sometimes there's some adjustments. You might take away from the first show, but the second show. but the second show, you can go along. So who's been a dickhead to you when you asked to say, but now? Who has been a dickhead to me when I had to open up? I mean, there was some headline.

I don't remember their names, but it was just like, why are you doing this material in front of me? Or don't do that because I touch upon this. I'm like, well, I don't even know who you are, what stand-up you do. Like, I'm just doing my thing. So I was raised in stand-up as like, yo, if somebody does a joke that touches upon yours in some way,

you have to be able to pivot and move. and that's what makes you a great comedian. So I never do that to anybody who opens up for me where anybody who works with me or anything like that. I never rarely ever. Check them and say, yo, yo, yeah, ever. Not even like Joe took his mind. It's more like the subject matter where it becomes repetitive.

It's very, very rare that I've ever even said anything like that. It's usually the circumstances. But they do that frequently. People do that frequently. And I would say when I first started because I was so young and I was so like, you know, just like full energy. I'm 17. I'm bouncing off the wall.

I'm very, you know, very, very expressive and all this stuff. So there's, you know, there's just like this shit that exists in, like, standard where they're like clickish or you're not like this or you're not like that. I'm like, bro, I'm 17. You know what I? You have to mature and grow and figure it out for yourself and see where you're going to end up. So I didn't like that shit. That's why I really, like, I focused on what was important, which is getting stage time,

getting on the road and getting better and staying focused and making sure that all the other stuff was just noise. You know, I noticed that everyone was just trying to emulate who they love most. And we all do to a certain degree. But the thing, the gap for me was I've only been in the country eight years. So people walk up to me like, oh, you sound like Sam Kensington. I'm like, who's Sam Kittison? Oh, shit.

You know what I'm saying? When I was doing stand-up. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Eight years. I came when I was nine years old. I started when I was 14 in high school. The only person that I knew was those famous ones who had television shows. Right.

And then by the time I was, you know, 17, I didn't know who. Bill Hicks was. That energy you had their same innocent energy imagine to tell your mom who was just like making X amount of dollars

we need cable like get the fuck out my face table was trying to eat trying to make sure the rent is paid so I had no knowledge of previous comedians

that existed before me and that then it was a comedian that came up to me at open mic he's like a you know there's all these interesting characters

on Mike he does real estate but he shows up every Monday fucking over Mike and he's the one who gave me all these VHS tapes of all these amazing comedians that have had specials

and that's when I started really understanding my own art form you know I was like oh and even Eddie Murphy I didn't know Eddie Murphy did stand up I knew him from the movies because he only did two specials I didn't know he said

that was in the 80s I came in 91 991 so I had no idea oh that's Eddie Murphy Joe who's it oh yeah oh yeah of course I didn't know he did stand up you know it was like that

raws too raw and delirial yeah of course I know that. I'm very well in there. He is, yeah. No, incredible, incredible, incredible. So I thought I was the hotel king

until one day I'm scrolling across complex. Okay. And I see an interview with you. And you said, because I, I finessed the four o'clock checkout. Yeah. I thought 4.30 I was ill. Yeah. I thought I was ill with the 4.30.

I heard you get a 6 o'clock checkout. I've gotten 6 p.m. checkouts. I have, I have a damn near a whole of the day. I've never. I've never heard it is. The trick is this is the British accent. I heard you say, okay, okay. Yeah, you have to sound like, hello, who am I speaking with?

You know, listen, this is my flight's being canceled out of Europe, unfortunately, and it's booked through a travel agency, so I couldn't, I couldn't change my ticket. I'm under, you know, you got to just put them in a very stressful situation, and they're like, oh, oh, oh, oh, you know, they're like, no, no, we can't do it. Well, I need to speak with someone, you know, we do a lot of business with you. We have contracts, which is all bullshit. or deals with them any kind of way. She's like, I'd hate, you know,

for our business to be hurt in any kind of way if you're not able to, you know, accommodate me in some type. And they just fucking freak out. And then all of a sudden the manager comes on. And I'd do it for jokes. I don't even stay until 4 p.m. I just want to see how far I can take it. But 4 p.m. 5 p.m. 6 p.m. is pretty standard.

That's crazy. One time my boy was touring in India. I was in Egypt doing a show. He called me, and this is just one FaceTime, like, drop. He called me on FaceTime. and I got him a 4 p.m. checkout at this crazy, like, five-star hotel in India. Through FaceTime? I was talking. He had no phone on FaceTime, and I got him.

You had the accent, though? I had the accent. He called him for the accent. Yeah, but hold on. You didn't see you on Facebook? No, no, no, no. No. No, no. No, no. I'm about the second, you don't look British. You know, this is right. So, you know, I don't know if you've been to England recently, but nobody looks British anymore. Okay, all, my bad, my bad. Okay. All right, my bad. We're draying that. We're draining that.

He's British. He's British. Yeah, you look like you're from Miami anyway. You're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly, exactly. National dishes curry, and I think the most popular boy's name is Muhammad, or the second most popular, or something like that, is Mohammed.

I've been at a hotel with him, and, like, there'll be an Arab person working at the hotel, and, like, some regular lady will be, like, next, and he'll be like, no, I'll wait, and he'll go to an Arab person, and then forget, we get, oh, Brady. Free breakfast Is he talking Arabic to the guy? Yes. And you speak Fawesi too? No, I don't speak Farsi.

No, no, no. I speak Arabic in Spanish. I'm conversational in Spanish. All right. No, no, no. And you speak Spanish like a Cholo, too. It's just what I grew up around. And I think it's just one of the funniest accents.

Like so much pain. Like, come on, bro. Like, why are you doing it? No, no, ma'am me. Like, what's the pain that's happening? Come on, like, come on. Like, relax, bro. No, I ever finish the word?

Like, we're lag, bro. It's fucking great, bro. I think it's fucking great, bro. I have so much, like, love for Latinos, bro. I just feel like such a kinship to them in some kind of way. Yeah, it's dope. And they always mistaken you for a Latino. You've been hector a lot of times.

I've been hector a lot of times. Jose to the black people. Jose to the black. Oh, black folks are 100%, bro. And black folks, when I was growing up, people were like, you know, it was like a big thing. I didn't realize, I didn't know anything about gang culture at all when I first got to the States. And I didn't, you know, I was always in these situations where that was like, the Mexicans didn't understand where I was. They were, like, confused by me.

And black folks in their gangs, there was very, like, segregated gangs, right? So the black gangs would be like, what you're doing here, huh? Huh, S.A.? What you're doing in this neighborhood? And I'd be like, no, man, my name is Mohammed. They'd be like, oh, shit. Islam al-a-a-a-lake-law. You know, they had the whole idea.

And Mexicans would be mad at me because I'm not with them. Oh, you think you're too good for us, bro? Like, you changed us, bro. Oh, yeah, you just chamed? I was like, bro, my name is Mohammed. They were like, what, bro? You look like my cousin Hector. So weird, bro.

So my family. It's so weird. But I do feel like, I was like driving down the street and I look up and I see the, you know, the immigrant blanket, this furry that has the animals on them, like the tigers on them and shit. Okay. You know anything about that? No, I don't know.

Yeah, I was fucked up. I saw one with two Mexicans on horses and a Mexican flag on there. I just pulled over. I had to buy them. that shit. I don't know why. I took a picture of it and I sent it to my friend Ralph Barbosa and he texted me back and he was like, that's us bro. And I was like, I said it's mine. I just bought that shit. I just

have it at the house. I don't know what it is. The comedian? The comedian? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the skinny guy, right? You can say I'm under comedian Ralph. You, you FaceTime me with him and Brett Kreisina. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, now

I'm going to ask you, Syf, right? Yeah. Because to us, it's outside of the looking in it looks like the comedian for years it looked like the comedian world was the tightest net of people i went to numerous shows enjoyed myself in fact in fact we're jealous of them at one point i'm like no one's fighting yeah yeah yeah everyone gets their back end back end what's that like and until recently i want to say And I'm not blaming this on this individual,

but I want to say since this dude had did this interview, it seemed like the comedian world flipped upside down and like people, since Kat Williams. And more people are beefing too, like Mark Maren and all that. I've been hearing prior to that, but once Kat did Club Shay-Shay, I felt like the comedian world became hip-hop. Y'all beefing with each other.

It was always hip-hop. I see that's the part we didn't know. Right. Like me being to be able to play both. sides. It's always been hip-hop, but it was always quiet. It was always on a low.

The Cat Williamson definitely blew it up. And also social media. And podcasting. Yeah, podcast. Everybody just getting on a podcast talking for hours. You start slipping out with some beef or somebody that, but there was always like, like joke stealers or.

That's not to play with, joke stealing. No, no, no, no. No, no. That's the worst thing. Yeah. Yeah. So there was always beat, from what I noticed, but to me, like, especially, like, there's, like, different comedy worlds. There's, like, the urban comedy world.

Then there's, like, the mainstream comedy world, which definitely means black and white, right? The urban comedy world always had drama, but it was always quiet because... Let's describe who's in the urban comedy world. Tracy Morgan. Tracy Morgan, no, Tracy Morgan can't go into urban, but he's more mainstream. And when we say mainstream, we say mainstream, we're saying pop. He's saying crossovers. There's crossover, yeah.

Let's say cross-over. I was like mainstream, mainstream cross-overs. Like, the people that I learned under when I came up. Adam Sandler, cross-off. Yeah. A big deal with cross-off. Smokey from uptown. Yeah.

Urban. Urban. Okay. My man. Like, if you were I came up under, back in the day, when I first started trying to learn stand-up, Talent, Capone, Rob Stableton, comedian Capone, Smokey, Mark Vieira, all that's like the urban world. And then, but there. The thing about the urban world, they pay better.

Like, when I was doing them shows, when I first started coming up, they would pay me two, three, four hundred dollars. So they were drug dealers, right? Jesus, I'm not dead. They just really paid fair wages, okay? The venues, the venues, but you know what, who cares? We're cleaning up some money or whatever. Then I went into the mainstream world, which is the white world.

Like the comedy seller? Comedy seller, $25, $30, $50. Oh. So a lot of the urban guys go, I ain't going over there because you don't make money. Amy Schrimmer's coming on after you. You said something like that. Sarah Silverman.

Yeah. You know what I mean? I think he's making it. It's not like a comedian. I know my comedians, man. Comedia. Yeah. Look, because that's a crossover.

You know what I mean? Sometimes I see them beef like at the comedy seller. I see two comedians beefing and and somehow I get mixed in. I said, bro, I said, listen, bro, I've been in shootouts. I can't do this little, oh, you stole my chicken winged, like little beef you got. You played at the club. Tunnel.

I laugh. I try not to laugh because they obviously going through something. Yeah. But I played at the tunnel, bro. I'm very triggered as a refugees mentioned in tunnel. There's a lot going on. When are you saying the tunnel? I'm like, listen, listen.

What are we doing? Where are we going? This was a club that other platinum artists from other places and other genres, I don't want say everybody, but I don't say a couple of them, but they would call me and be like, can you walk me in? Yeah, bro. That's how scary it was. Like, they would ask me to walk them

in the club. Like, and then the bathroom was unisex. So it was it was, um, that's crazy. I remember I went to the tunnel one time and I had overalls on. And this is, this is the beeper time at the time. And my whole

connect was in the beeper. And I hooked my shit. And my people just fell right in the urine and I just kept peeing on it. I'm like, oh, that's it. I'm looking around. Like, who's the water? I can't.

I'm in the whole shit. And a girl walked by. No, I don't know. The thing was, don't you tell me this after the toilet and kept eating on it. How did you know? How many people you see in this studio right now?

Roughly. Roughly. How many people? Right now? Yeah, roughly. About 20? 20 people. Yeah.

Imagine Norrie in the nightclubs back in the day. Oh, my God. Are you serious? Yeah. We had fun. We had fun. We had fun.

Absolutely. We had fun. How do you remember everybody's names? No. That's why we had numbers. We had numbers on our shirt. Yo, number seven. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was number seven. How are you? How are you? I was five, seven. I was seven and I went to five seven. So, now let's describe Houston, right? Yeah. Because not only you come from a very new

place, Houston, but you come from this time, right? Like, I love the fact that you was living in real time, right? On a series. Even the fact that you was selling fake Rolex. Now, was that a real thing that you were selling fake Rolex? Yeah, I would. I would

sell stuff when I was a teenager. I was much younger than then. It was right after my father died. You sorry? Say, he needed to Daytona. Yeah, Daytona. I had all of them, bro. I used to sell all of them. So what I did was I used to work at this convenience store. So after my father died, his friend gave me a job at his convenience store, and there was a guy there

wearing a really nice watch. I'm like, oh, that's really cool. He goes, ah, it's fake. I was like, it looks great. He goes, you want to try to sell him? I can get him for him. I was like, sure. So that's what I did. And then he got me sunglasses and everything else. And what I would do is, I would look outside the window. And honest, I would be real. It was drug deals mostly in that neighborhood. And I knew who I was going to sell to. And I would look at that. And I would put on, like, Versaji's sunglasses. And I would just wait. And they'd walk in and be like, oh, shit, them, it was fire. I'm like, hey, it's the last one.

And I do my whole sales pitch and they take it. And then the next guy walking, I put another thing. I'm like, oh, shit. So the last one, and I would sell him at the end of the week, they'd be so mad because everybody's wearing the same shit. And they would come on to me like, you told me it was the last one for you fucking lie. I was like, at the time

it was, but for real, for real, I have a one of one, Mavado, and it's two-tone, and I would sell that to him. But I was, yeah. Did they buy it knowing it was face? Yeah, of course. Of course. Of course. I wouldn't be like This is 100%. Who the hell is buying a Rolex for $75?

Yeah, very true. That's crazy. I mean, if they thought that, I would just be like, come on, what are you talking about, bro? Like, you know, give me that watch, man. I probably can sell it for $125. But me and you, we got together in Orlando. Yeah. And we and you had like a conversation for hours about watches.

So was that how you developed your love for watches? Was actually dealing with the replicas? No, actually, it was a really good story. man, my father, everything is like tied in. A lot of things are tied into my father and my history. So when the war happened, I was always told my father had this really nice Rolex and it was lost in the war. And it was always my like, it was always, man, I need to get that watch back for my dad.

It was that kind of thing. And then it became about time and how obsessed I am with time. It's the most valuable commodity and the mechanism and how it works and how refined each timepiece is from the other. So it just became this like rabbit hole. And I just, like, got into it big time. And, and I got the watch back. It was, like, a really amazing.

Oh, you got the exact watch? Oh, wow. Yeah, it was a, it was a date just. Then my father had stainless steel. It was beautiful. And I wanted to get that back. And it was interestingly because I bought it in Bahrain Airport in 2018 after my first special. And it was the same airport that I was stuck at the airport for in 2006 for 17 hours because they wouldn't let me in.

Wow. Because I didn't have a passport. So it was that same airport 12 years later that I saw it just sitting there And I was like, I don't care And it was an old, it was a vintage piece? No, I wasn't a vintage piece. Oh, it was brand new, yeah, yeah.

So, but I felt like I got that watchback from my father and then it became more about time, understanding time, or being obsessed with time and then the mechanism itself and how it works and how each one differs from the other and how they're engineered and put together. And I just think it's so fascinating and how small little pieces that go into the watch

to be so specific about time. And, you know, I just find it to be so fascinating. And you're looking to me like, no, I just like it for how I'm lost. No, I'm not too fascinating. Yeah, I love it. It's different ways how people get in, got into watches. Yeah, it was my father. It was my father knowing that he lost something.

It was like, my father came from nothing. You know, it was like a rags to riches and then rags again after the war lost everything. And so for me was always a big motivation to be like, I'm going to get this back for him. Even though he's no longer with us, I just wanted to get it back for him and put it back in the family. It's very symbolic. And that's why I got into

it. And I also like, you know, I don't like super fancy super, you know, out there watches. I do like them stripped down and I like the Stanley Steel watches more than anything else, I'm in. We're going to come back to that because you also affected my life the other day. I'm working them around the grocery store.

You want to say chocolate, almost I see what it's going. Yeah, chocolate hummus is fucked up, man. I think it was pineapple hummus. How the fuck do you say, are you joking? No, I'm dead serious. I don't think that exists. Is that really exist? No, I'm dead serious.

It was. Does the chocolate and hummus exist? I saw that in this. Yes, first of all, hummus is chickpeas. Hummus literally means chickpeas. Hummus is basically curated. But they flavor everything. They flavor everything.

But I know from you that that's, bro. And I had not seen that special It's a criminal motherfucking offense It's a criminal offense You know what's fucked up for me Had I not seen the special The way the lady was selling it Like I was like

I'm from my rat And I was like I got him next week I cannot do this No No No one already exists I know that's Hazel Nuff But that already exists

Like stop trying to make some fucking child And I heard it's delicious But I'm not gonna try that shit Right I'm never Never Okay

So describe a good place Play the Hummus Oh my God You describe a good thing. Every day. This guy gets on tour and he's been on tour. And for seven weeks straight, he's like, he wakes up every morning. Guess what we're eating today? Hummus, hummus,

hummus, this guy. Mixed brilling hummus is right. Now, he does it right, though. He does it. No, no, 100%. Look, chickpeas, you know, for me, I mean, excuse me, hummus is five ingredients, okay? It's four, sometimes five. The simpler is, the better. No oil, but

relax. Some people who are oil in. And it turns it gray and weird. I don't really like putting oil. I don't, I thought I got that from you a special. No, no, it is. No, you've got to drizzled it on top as well. You don't drizzle. No? You can't.

You can't pour it. You need an olive oil, though. Just, you know, spot? Is that what you doing? I was going to do. Once you get a fucking dropper and it's the tink, tink, tink, tink, that's perfect. No, bro, you pour that shodd it. If you have the right, olive oil, because it brings all the flavors out, okay?

It's very important, guys. Listen, don't fuck around. I'm not fucking around. All right? All right? All right. It's chickpeas. Chickpeas, very important.

Obviously, you can't make hummus without chickpea. And salt. Okay. Tahini, tahini paste, which is sesame seed. It's made into a paste. And lemon juice, lots of lemon juice. Okay. So you put that all together, and you get the perfect texture.

It's got to be smooth, not grainy, all that bullshit. No, no, no, no. You get it perfectly. Some people like to put garlic in it. Some people like to put cumin in it for the gas. Cuman? Yeah, it's a little bit of cumin just to take the gas out. I'm not a fan of all this.

No, no, just deal with the gas. Two? No, too. No, turmeric. What are you talking about, bro? Why are you fucking up the hummus right now? He wants to put ginger in there, too. Put some fucking ginger in there. I don't know what the fuck you do with the hummus. It's very simple. You got to get the right texture. And you put it in a bowl.

You don't put it on a plate. Everybody knows how to dip on a fucking plate. All the hummus goes over the sides and shit. You need a bowl to help with the dipping situation. All right? Now you put the hummus together and you save some of those chickpeas to put them on top of her texture, okay? It's very important. And then you get some fresh squeezed lemon juice and you put it around there.

And I like to just pour a bunch of olive oil, like real, thick green, unfitened. like real thick green, unfiltered, gorgeous olive oil. You just pour it in there and you get some nice steamy bread. You fold it like when you rip off a piece, you got to fold it like a little cone. So when you dip it through, the cone is very important because when you dip through, you got to get the multiple layers of text. You get the hummus, all right? And then you get the actual chickpeas in there for the texture.

And then you get some lemon juice and olive oil in there. And you have that joint and you get a perfect bite of hummus. Don't fuck with me on that. I've never won the hummus. Look at your life. What's up? Alpanias on it? I do like some dice jalapennians on it.

That's the one I can do that have the alpanias. There's a big controversy going on in the Caribbean and in Africa, right? Jalafo rice. They say Jalafo rice, who has the best, Nigeria. And in Caribbean, the guy, who's the best rice? Dominican Republic, Colombia, you know what I'm saying? No, yeah, okay. I thought Jolope rice was Nigerian.

Yeah, that's their part. and then they don't have the Caribbean rice now what I'm asking you is I want to ask you where those bad people

come from but who is the best people to make hummus I would say Because Greek people make hummus Oh man It's just fucking stop

You don't You don't cut this fucking podcast bro I'm leaving Greek people make I'm no What are you talking about

I'm put to a Greek restaurant they had hummus Yeah British people make Nigerian food Get the fuck out of it What are you talking about bro. What are you talking about?

I can't wait to eat Chinese food made by Mexican. What are you talking about? But that's a real thing. You can make any feelings. No, hold on. I'm not sure. We make the best hummus.

Who make the best hummus? Look, I would say people come from the sham region, shamy region, which is Palestinians, Lebanese people, Syrians. Not Jordan? Jordan, also. Yes. Jordan, Palestine,

Lebanese and Syrians. They make the best hummus period to end the conversation. Stop. And that's where it goes. Yes. Okay. To me, is that, that, that

everybody's going to argue, oh, it's actually Egyptian. Stop. Stop, stop, stop. Everything is fucking Egyptian. Yeah, also, the aliens made the pyramid. Just stop. I heard that, too.

Stop. Yeah, I did. I did. But even when you do look at it, you said, I didn't want to go. We just went to Egypt. He's like, I don't care about seeing the pyramid. That's no.

I didn't want to go to the very much. Oh, that's tough, man. You got to see it. You have to see it. I was like, I saw on TV. The first thing about the picture, yo, I've been on the show with this guy for the whole year. All of September, we was in Europe, and then October we was in the Middle East. So I'm in the Middle East.

Everybody's speaking Arabic to me because they think I'm Egyptian. I forgot. You do look at you. Everybody thinks I'm a Egyptian restaurant. The guy was talking to me asking me to translate for him. I said, no, the other guy, he would. He's Egyptian. But, bro, when he said...

He was speaking English to me. He starts speaking every time. I'm like, what's wrong with you? Bro, but they're really serious about their, like, the hummus and the different regions and the food. And then we went to Egypt, bro. Egypt is... The pyramids is in the hood. Yeah.

What? No, I didn't know that. Bro, when you see the pictures of the pyramids, you see the sand, you see the sunset. The pyramids is like, oh, ancient... It looks gorgeous. Bro, if you look to the right... It's pretty gorgeous. It's the hood

Bro, it's Jesus They extort you Like to try to like To get you to buy things Bro It's wow I don't buy extortion But they definitely have

I mean It's like any other chores Like if they get on the camel Then the camel They'll lead you to a spot You buy these oils like Fuck And he's serving you

All this stuff So now you feel guilty Into it You're like I'll stop bringing food Bro stop murder Yeah It's not like Like when you go

In Mexico They need you to where the stuff is Which is fine Bro when we're driving in Egypt I'm looking at over me and my boy Jay that's that's Mo's camera guy. I'm looking at all I said bro I know where I'm at

this the hood there's people, there's dollar vans like what we call doll vans on the side of the highway there's people crossing the highway on foot like you think oh this guy's crazy oh this guy's crazy this mother with three kids is crazy they just cross the

highway and you look over and you see all of like the laundry like on on the lines I say yo the kids have sneakers up there It'd have been a real time. I'm like, oh, the pyramids must be like an hour away. Right there. Right there.

Yeah, right there. Imagine you go to Queensbridge and then the pyramids is right behind. Bro, it's crazy. It's really good. It felt real normal to me, but for him, he was the first time. So he was like, oh, you can't remember. He was looking for scrolls and shit. I was like, no, that's fake.

You know, I found him the scrolls. He's all digging in the same. Maybe I find that art. He was in the street. He went to this one restaurant. It was like neighborhood, local junker. It was like famous. I said, bro, well done.

I need everything well done. Well done. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I said, teach me how to say well done in Arabic. I need this guy to know. This got to be well done, man. Here's thing, bro. Arabs don't do medium.

We don't do that shit anyway. We don't do all that. You know, mixed grill. You're not going to get something. It was a little pink and traditional. Not at all. It's seasoned like crazy. It's grilled and it's going to be well done. 100% of the time. I got another question for you. I'm sorry. Some food shit. No, go ahead. Cherry rice. Cherry rice.

You ever had cherry rice? No, I haven't had cherry rice. But let me tell you something about fruit inside of rice. Stop doing that shit, okay? There's nothing worse. There's nothing worse than finding raisins in your rice. Like, an insane amount of raisins and rice is fucking absurd, bro. Stop it. We were just in Morocco and I love Morocco. Moroccan's are amazing, incredible. But we had one touch. Gene, it was like the lamb was coated in raisins. I'm like, what am I eating right now? What am I eating right now? What's happening? And who made this decision

to put an insane amount of raisins on top of lamb? He was ruined the most like of the lamb. Okay, okay, yeah. But thank God we recovered well when we found a great spot. What's Cherry Rice from? Yeah, please. Who speaks Farsi? The Iranian.

Yeah, Iranians. Yeah, Persians. That's the way. They don't make Cherry Rice. Yeah. They make Cherry Rice? Yeah. Somebody needs to back-check this. Yeah, that's Ali. You don't remember Ali? I've never had Cherry Rice.

I know a lot of Ali's. I know. I'm talking about 50s. My son, Ali. Yeah, yeah. That's a. No, they make, they don't make cherry rice. I got to look this up.

Somebody's got to find check this situation. Yeah. Yeah, you might want to edit that one. There's no motherfucking cherry rice. Trust me. You know, with this rice is vicious, some of motherfucking giggleberry. That's another thing you said. That's another thing you said.

Another thing I really don't like is. This thing has been happening in the Arab world Is that they garnish everything with pomegranate Like stop doing that too, bro Nobody wants to have this with pomegranate Like stop all this rice And like all of a sudden you get a pop of pomegranate It's nothing cool, yeah, it looks good

But it doesn't taste well It doesn't taste good Like pomegranate All right, fine So another thing I heard you say And you take a shot man, you bullshit right now Another thing I heard you say is You said that everybody's eating ass

But nobody's washing the ass Damn. How do you know that, though? What a fucking segue. Exactly. You're in Segway. What market research did you do? It's called Moabir.

Oh, my God. It's Amber forgot. Hey, man. That's the name. This is the case you know. That's the name of a cologne. Is it? Yeah.

In my mind. Just got to roll with it. All right, cool. I'll do it. I'm down. Like how camera on that old boy? Is your next question you just come out? Start spraying Moabian.

and you gotta have like girls like with the with their thing on and then as soon as they spray them it comes off this is what happened when you get you buy the cologne you know what I'm saying yeah yeah

I have a big problem with the fact that there's no badees in America like badees are not the standard in America like it's crazy to me that just cleaning just just wiping your ass after going to the bathroom is sufficient enough it's just absolute insanity like if you got shit on your shoe

you would run immediately and wash it off but on your purse and you're like whoop that's good enough it's fucking crazy it's crazy to me my cousin was visiting me from overseas and I was picking him up he wanted this day and this is a real nice hotel in Houston

so I pick him up and he had this really pissed off looking at his face I was like what's wrong he goes no betay five star nobody every time I go to the busroom I have to take a shower I'm taking five showers today I was like you know five

How many sheds are you taking me? He was like, five-star, fuck you, one-stop. And that's how I judge hotels, if they have a bidet or not. If you don't have a bidet, you just ruin my whole fucking stay. Have you seen it? It's crazy to me that there's no, like, that's not like the normal practice. The chief hotels when we was in the Middle East have it. Everybody has it.

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let's hear me some of the noia Mom, don't touch it, no way. I cream your asshole for you. Oh, now you're nice and cream. What's the name with that toilet? I've been bragging about it. It's a Japanese toilet. I hope things are fire, bro.

That shit is fire, bro. It's like Japan went to the Middle East and be like, we can make this so much a bit of it. Create a robot to creed your asshole. What fucking things are crazy? I'm not really a fan of those. I like the handheld and you know where you're spraying at. This might be T.M.

But, fuck it. Whenever you turn those things on, you got, like, you know, you got wiggle around and just make sure you get the right area. That's not, I'm not really fond of that. You're sitting there like. Now, I'm going to tell you how it happened to me, boss. You got a ducked in the ass washing home. Induct it.

It's been a hall of fame, baby. Listen, man, I was in there rolling up. You know, because I don't smoke actually in the hotel, but I would roll up in the hotel. So I'm in there rolling up. I dropped the bag. I go like this and I hit the joint. I never used it.

I just used the heated toilets. I like that. And I like the floor getting heated. I like it. But then I hit the join and the joint, I'm pooh. Yeah. I said, ha ha. Yeah.

And then I was like, ha ha ha. Yeah, he's like giggling and shit. Yeah, the worst part for me the first time I did that, I didn't know there was a stop button. So I was sitting there like, how long is it going to last? I was like, oh, shit, you got to push stuff. I was fucking horrible. Such an idiot.

I thought they learned how long it takes to clean ass. It's a timer. Yeah, no, nothing like that whatsoever. But that is how I judge things for sure. If a hotel does not have a bidet, I'm like, this is the fucking worst. It ruins my whole day. I got a bidet in my crib. Good.

I'm not sure I've ever used it. What do you mean? You know the shit, this is you're about the shit to crack up your ass, right? The French shit. What do you mean? The water shit, man. Oh, you mean? In the separate, okay, so I, the separate one, I'm not really a fan of that either.

Okay. Where you got to get up and then go to the other thing. So what is you talking about there? No, I'm talking about the little hand, there's like a little handheld spray. Oh, whatever, the, I don't want to go to that. Every bathroom out there. A handheld? It's a little handheld.

You know how like you got a shower? Yeah, yeah, no, I get it out, but I just, it's an ass shower. You know what I was in the middle east, you know what I was going to stay? Yeah, I don't appreciate you looking me like crazy about that. Why you fuck you jumping me? You know, the fact that we're looking at you're like, look, imagine this guy. Look at my eyes.

You know how bad I am in my soul? Knowing that I've told these ways, sold this and never knew what the fucking was? No, I'm not at myself. Because I'm saying, like, you know how many places I'm I'm talking from? I'm sorry and did not know that that's what that's what you was for. Yeah, no, that's exactly right.

But you got to be careful of there. In the Middle East, it would be hot as fuck outside. And if you push the wrong, on one. I had it where a scold in my ass. I pushed the high one. I was like, ha! It was not fun. It was not fun, but I do remember that because I always remember traumatic memories, and that was a very traumatic moment for me. And this segment was sponsored by Bidette. I really needed to be. I'm so down. I would be a sponsor for Bidase all day.

We get a hell of a plug for that. Paws, man. Yeah. Now we're talking about a completely different day. All right. You're from washing your ass to plugs. This is a very different situation. We got the, um, no? Got the what? Quick time. Yeah, we got that.

How are you doing? Or is it slow time? Okay. All right. I always look terrible on podcast. No, no, no, no. But we just want you to know, Moe, which we have done for comedy. Is it?

No, no, no, no. We have done for comedy, what you have done, you know, you know. For bidetes. For bad days. For attacking real issues. And, you know, making. making it, you know what I mean, making us all laugh throughout this time because, you know, the world is a better place, man, when you're out there. So we want to give you your flowers.

Face-to-face, man. Snoop Dogg said it's better than the Grammy because it comes from the people. That's 100% right. You know what I'm saying? That's how I feel. I got to be honest with this, 100% how I feel, you know, because I did feel like, you know, the show, I put my heart and soul in it in season two specifically. Right. And first season two, of course. But, like, season two with all the stakes that were on it and just to, like, you know, you always want your shit to be recognized and you think it's crazy for it not to be

and to win so many awards the first season and still got plenty of time for the second season. But, you know, seeing the crowds and seeing the people, it's been the best prize that you could ever win the hearts of the people. And it's just like, I can't even describe it. I mean, Saifah's seen it. I'll say something to, but I'll tell you,

something for years right you know um for like 25 years i had a great have a great fan base right people will come up to me and people were like they think they know me right yeah you know they grew with you so long they kind of kind of do at least didn't know the professional version that you presented yourself yeah yeah and it was a day that i was with you in Orlando and i was like yo this is probably the first time i've ever done this like i was acting like i knew you my whole life because I watch yourself so much and I identify with you so much. But here's a question that I want to ask, right? When I see you act, when I see you act, it's a certain passion that comes with that. But when I see you on stage, it's a certain security and a certain type

of like, uh, like self-price. A certain type of like belongness. Like, like, you're so comfortable on stage. Am I wrong for saying that you like the stage more than you like acting? Acting? Yeah. I definitely enjoy the live performance of it all very much. I like the unpredictability of it, how spontaneous

it can be at times. I definitely appreciate that very, very much. In the same vein, like, it's not necessarily just the acting as creating something from scratch and writing. I do love leading a team and directing and having all these different artists around you. And I really love like molding a

story together and putting it together and telling that story. So I think I'm really, really great at it. So I really enjoy being in that bag a lot. Stand up to me is like always home base. It's always going home. I'm always going to, I always want that, always need that. I can't, like, I really feel like it's what's gotten me through a lot of these hard times in my life is stand up. And so acting itself is tapping into something that I've never done before, which is so interesting, like the emotionality on camera. That shit is crazy to me. Like, like, first time I broke down on camera where I was recreating a particular scene of my life and being that vulnerable is also something really, really fulfilling in that. And ties some really great

knots that were in my heart, you know, like, so I'm very grateful for that. So they're very different. They're very different. But I love filmmaking. I love making television. I love making movies as well. So it's just, it's a different extended arm of, you know, what I feel like I can do well. you know so it's just like it seems like comedians make some of the best dramatic actors sometimes yeah sometimes you guys could tap into something yeah i didn't even know honestly you don't know you can do it until you do it it's one of those things like you're in there and the first time i broke down when i was uh it was one of my favorite scenes and uh when i'm in the confessional in season one and uh and it was the priest was played by bum b shout out bum b and and i didn't realize i was going to break down

i was going to go more in a comedic route and of course there was you know some emotion tapped into it, but when it all hit me all at once and I really started thinking about my father and what he's done and what he went through. And I never really, I realized very quickly that I never sat there and thought about it. You know what I mean? Like you, you, you, like that, not just passing away. It's the, just really visualizing what he must have gone through in those moments and, and just kind of tracking that while you're saying the words. And then I started seeing him like vulnerable and struggling and having to start over again and losing everything like and it just fucking hit me man it just hit me like it just like it's one of my favorite things

and i put the uh i put a track right after that it's very very near to my heart man uh i just absolutely um loved it it's uh lost in a jungle without it's what is it oh man i'm i'm losing it right now i'm just thinking about my father um uh j electronica it was on the song Yeah the song It was Jay Electronica from From a track he did with With

Oh my God I hate that I fucking I'm up terrible at these things But You was a marijuana Yeah I want some weed Yes I do actually Thank you so much

I was hoping you pass it Is it like that a one taker If you get that emotional You want your own joint You get your own joint You do your own joint You do whatever you want This is fine

Okay let's go let's go Let's go let's go Let's go Let's go Let's go How great. I took a couple of puffs and I remember. It was how great.

The track is how great. And the verse is from J. Electronica. And it's like, lost in the jungle. No hog, no mere cat. No, I could have matata by day, but a night I fight my tears back. You know, it's just that track about thinking about his father and being lost out there without anybody. And it just was one of my favorite cuts that I put in the show, actually. But yeah.

So was it a one taker? That one? The one I used, yeah, it was a one take. Yeah, it was one thing. So it was like, I can't really, I don't even remember. It's been so long, right. But that one that the, the clip that I use, I know is that, is one from the first, like, very honest, unfiltered. And people were like, man, great acting.

I was like, um. I was really breaking out. So let me ask you all a question because every time a comedian comes to town, they usually hit us, we'll reach out to them. And then we'll go see where they show us at. We look in, and y'all don't have shows there. We came here to visit you. We did a show at the door. I finished the tour.

We just finished the tour. Both Saif and I went on the road with you everywhere. It was so funny. We did so many shows in the States, and we got to Australia. We're sitting down at dinner, and Saif goes, you know this is the first time we've had dinner in four months of touring. I was like, fuck, bro. I've been talking with him off and on, what, seven, eight years?

I've known him for at least 10 years. Always great shows, always great fans. We did a lot of weekends and comedy clubs. We did one-nighters. The last two years, this guy blew up to a superstar. He's famous now. You got baddies everywhere. Everywhere.

He got a bagels with him. But like, now he's, like, famous. Like, it's weird because he's just my friend Moehmmer. You know what I mean? Like, he blessed me, like, letting me open up when I don't even think I was ready. He didn't know he was pronouncing neither. You said, well, he wasn't coffee. He wasn't coffee.

He wasn't coffee. My voice is bringing him up on his new special. And now he's like a superstar where, like, people are fighting to get to the stage after a show to take pictures with him and coming out, like, rushing the tour bus and stuff. It's fucking crazy. God damn, let's make some noise for that. It's crazy. Let's make the noise for more security. And, uh, more expensive.

Let me ask me have more expensive. That is going to be a side question, but this is going to be a side question, but this is going to be. It's going to be an ill question, right? Me, throughout the times, you know, I've been doing it 25 years, right? So I can go to my show. Like I can go downstairs and I can look at the crowd. And I can know that I'm, tonight I'm performing my Nina Sky record. I'm performing my dad Yankee record.

Mm-hmm. Just from looking at the crowd. I can say, yo, listen, this is a more of a Latino-based show. So I go to my DJ and I'm like, every other record, to a reggae throne record. But then I also go to a crowd and I got to be like, we'll report all night.

Okay. This is Capone Noriego all night. Album cuts. Bloody money, Tims, Tims, and shit like that. But then I got another crowd where I got to put on a dresser. Homeboy, a cane party. But I could kind of assess that

from just looking at the crowd. Sometimes I'm wrong. At least 95% of the times I'm right. And the other times which Rock is writing by DJ big him up. Is that something that you have to do because you have a diverse audience? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Do you go out there and say, like, oh, shit, my Palestinian niggins in the building. I mean, sorry. I don't know if you say

that. I don't know if you say that. That's what all my friends say all the time. All the black friends, that's all they say. Right. They're coming in the building. Okay. I mean, yeah. I mean, Syf, first of all, is like one of one. Let me tell you something.

Like, for him to go from music into stand-up and then what he's done to blend things on stage, I've never seen before. Like, genuinely, that's why I was like, bro, I'm touring you're up in the Middle East. You have to come. And the growth that I've had in the last two years has been so significant. I need this, like, element in the show to just, and I want you to work and do your thing. I genuinely like love Seif, but seeing him, seeing him do his thing on stage. I'm like, bro, he's fucking one-on-one.

And he does this like mixture of songs and cultures and everything on stage to really identify what the demographics in the room are. So one day it would be like 90% Arabs, right, from all walks of life. And the next day it's just like in Sweden, Europe, it's like all white people or, you know, South Asia or Southeast Asian. Like, bro, it's just like, you know, changes from one day to the other. Now, stand-up in particular, I don't have like, you know, I'm going to take out this track for this. I'm going to take out this track for that.

It's not really like that. But what you can do is, is, oh, I have this Joe here that ties into this and they love this a lot. So I'm going to play into that more. But I've always written very universal. And so it can go up anywhere. Like, if I'm doing a corporate and I got to put on the suit and stuff, I can be squeaky clean. Like, my mentor always said, like, you could always be dirty, learn how to be clean. And if you can be clean, you can work anywhere.

And that's the, and be very universal. So the stories are transcend everywhere. Now there's certain places, like, I thought I was going to hit more here than it hit there more. You know, like, you'll have that, like, post-game analysis after the show, but that's it. Because we had Dionne Cole here, right? That's in theaters, though. Let me clarify. In theaters, it's like that.

You know, in the clubs, you might not do a set at all. Like, it's very different. Like, people come out to the theater out. They want to see the show. They've got to give them a show. It's a very different practice. Once you go into the clubs, people expect you to mess around. People expect you to be spontaneous.

People expect you to switch it up a bit depending on what the arrangement is that night and who's there. So it shifts. It's a different place. And even if you go to smaller rooms, open mics, it's different too. It requires a different skill set. So, yeah, so it varies. But yes, I guess we do do it. So because we had just had Dion Cole here the other day.

It hasn't dropped yet. but he said that he went to L.A. one night he was about to perform and he had a joke but it was a gay joke and there was a bunch of gay people there so he didn't do the joke right and it made me interested because has that ever happened to you guys like where you like

you know maybe you got a a Puerto Rican joke and there's too many Puerto Rican in the crowd with knives. It just doesn't seem proper. And do you take it away from that or do you fall into that? I mean, it sounds like you, I, like, if I'm writing a joke about it, it's not offensive so I can do it, you know, I think it would be fine. It's all in the delivery.

It's always in the delivery and how you put it together. But I don't ever look at the crowd like, ooh, they're going to hate this joke. I'm like, oh, let's see what happens. It's more like, let's see what happens. I think it's going to be fine. Now, I've had situations where I've like, oh, I'm, you know, tell a joke. about how I was in a wheelchair in eighth grade and I look over and I see like

three people in the wheelchair. He's looking at me like, I'm really in the wheelchair. No, but you're also projecting. You know, you start being, feeling self-conscious and you're like, oh shit, maybe he doesn't want me to talk about, maybe he does, or maybe he's happy I'm talking about.

It's all like silly inner dialogue. In the end, you do what you've written and you do the best as you can. And in staying up, you're always fixing it. You're always working it out. I remember speaking to you. you and you gave me this amazing story. I don't know if I'm allowed to use this,

but I'm going to bring it up. And if we have to scratch it, we scratch it. But I remember I asked you, I believe this is the first time we met. He was in Orlando. We were sitting there kicking it. And I asked me, because you have a bomb. And he was like,

ah, this one time I believe you called, it was a handicapped kid. Oh, my God. It was a handy. And you had us crying, literally. Boy, it was the worst, most traumatic performance of my life. Okay, I explained to people.

Hi. Bismillah. You have to say, bismillah. I mean, this is exactly what happened, so don't come after me for anything. This is exactly what happened. So. Oh, you're talking about the college? Yes. So, oh, my God.

So, uh, there's like a whole college circuit within a stand-up. There is two, I'm sure, from musicians and all that, right? Of course, so, so you go to these conferences, you do the conference and all these colleges, book you for stuff. You're dope. They book you. So I go do a regional one up in the Northeast, and all the Penn State schools book me. Literally, every single. There's 27 schools.

I booked all 27. 23 of them happen to be Penn State schools. Wow. So there's like nooner shows and there's night shows. So you book two a day. So you might drive four hours and get to that campus. It's a commuter campus. So they have a noon show.

You literally performing in a fucking cafeteria. People are getting their food. They don't even know comedies happening. Nothing. You just show up. You win them over. You do your shit. You go to the next show.

Usually the late shows that night is inside of a, of a theater. inside the, it's a bigger campus, do a show. Anyway, so I go do this commuter campus, Penn State, noon show. It's the biggest cafeteria I've seen. I was like, oh, there's a lot of people. This is going to be a dope show. I know how to get them. I don't know how to do this thing.

I'm going to have fun. I was like, oh, cool, because you got people. Fucking great. The guy is introducing me is horrible. Now, come to the stage of a comedian, like literally talking like this in a cafeteria. He said low talk. He said low speaker, mumbling. he's like coming to the stage

he's trying to read my name he's like Amber Amber I was like Mo Amber I was like who the fuck is Mo Amber He was like Mo Amher I was like I had to walk on the stage I was like yo thank you You know I got it

I started doing my thing Rallying everybody letting them know it's a comedy show I got jokes It's gonna be fired this and that Five minutes in I got them You know now we're

Now they know the cadence You know what's supposed to happen This and now Now Now A class of, I don't even know how to see, special needs. Special needs. Kids walk in.

A whole class. A whole class. Like, you know, it's like 10 of them or something like that. I look over. I was like, oh, that's interesting timing, you know, like, it's going to be that. That's just nice. It's going to be cool. They're coming in.

Everybody's, like, looking over. And one of the kids sits down in the middle of my joke in the whole cafeteria while everybody's eating. There's like 500 students there, okay? And they're all like 18, 19 years old max. All of a sudden you. He sits down while I'm talking, he goes, Buh.

I'm like, what's going on? I say, who invited this guy? You know, just thinking that we get a joke at the time. I do know 100% I know. You can't miss it. There's a whole class of 12 that just came in. You can't miss that. Okay, okay.

But I started saying, I was like, oh, who invited this guy? Doesn't get a laugh. I was like, oh, oh, this is going to be a situation. Everybody's too immature to deal with it, right? So they're not going to be able to react They don't know this funny or not funny This and that This goes on for 45 minutes

Where every time I'm talking He goes boo I'm dying For 45 fucking straight minutes On this little ass stage In the middle of nowhere In Pennsylvania In a fucking lunch room

While everybody is awkwardly eating their chicken strips And fresh fries while I'm getting heckled by a special needs kid for 45 minutes straight. I'm assuming it's at least 45 because I did 52 minutes that night and I know I did that day

and I know it was 52 minutes because my agent, my college agent called me he said, you only did 52 minutes. You contracted to do 60. I was like, if I had a problem with time, I've never had a problem with time. You know what the fuck happened to me? I just died a miserable death

for 45 plus minutes of just this guy Nobody was clapping Nobody else was laughing Nobody stopped it Nobody's laughing I can hear them eating But they were laughing at first

I can hear people chewing Yeah At you at first Yeah You had them at first Before the special needs kids I'm doing my thing I'm fucking

I know how to do this It's my shit At that no one At that point I've done like Of 60 colleges Maybe under my belt You kidding me This is cake walk

I just gotta get the guy Out of there That's mumbling Start my shit And I got I'll get them I'll get them I'll get them

I'll get them I'll get them I'll get them, you know, because it's just like some organizer of the school is introducing you. He don't perform, nothing. And those kids don't even know comedy shows happening. There's like flyers up, but nobody's paying attention. So I do it and I'm killing. And then this kid walks in and starts booming.

Now, I've thought about this, and I think this is what happened. I think this special needs kid knows that nobody takes him seriously. No one really, like, you know, ever does. And so he just went there with the intention, like, I'm going to have fun. and his fun was I'm going to boo this stand-up comedian and laugh at me booing him because that he's going to die

a miserable death on the stage and that's going to entertain me and I can get away with it because nobody takes me seriously so you know what? Fuck all y'all boo! I think that's what happened

because he knew, I looked at him a couple times like, I know you know what the fuck you're doing. And I was, and honestly, the funniest thing for Another comedian to watch of another comedian is watching them bomb off. Yeah.

That's the Bons. That's the Bons there. It's so funny, bro. Yeah. Just so, I say it's tough, but it's really, really funny. That's, I swear to God. Dion just said they said that. That was my worst.

Was there other other comedians there that day? I'm so glad he was glossed over one of the most traumatic movies of my life. He was like, yeah, that's what he said. No, that's a minute of therapy after that, bro. It's just so hard. But was there anybody watching other comedians there? No, but it's like the whole city was there. But what's this gang and cheering him on?

Like, yo, go ahead, get up. No. He said it. I don't know. You say gang you're in 12 feet. Oh, my God. I was looking at the teacher, like, you're really not going to do anything. But honestly, I'm glad to have entertained him for that 45 minutes.

All right. It's worth it. It's worth it. Let me tell you something. I couldn't wait to get to that 7 p.m. I was driving like, oh, I can't wait. Oh, you got another game. They're going to get the best show in my life.

All right. Oh, shit. The best show of my life. Oh, shit. You want to be ready to think of that God's up. It wasn't. It wasn't the best show of my life. We're bringing in Sonny for a drinker?

Oh, yeah. Come on, Sonny. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Neither of these two guys are drinking. No, but Saif is basically Muslim now. I just converted already. I turned Muslim when I was in the Middle East.

Cyphibut Muslim since 98. I don't know why. He's never denied this. That's what I mean. Where does fuck Sonny go? So Sonny's going to drink for... We're going to drink for you. That's what we have a moment.

You don't want an accent? That's why she has a job? I'm independent. Z.B. Independent. You're independent? Let's kidding. All right. We're about to play our drinking game, by the way. All right. We're going to give you two choices. You pick one, and we're not drinking.

But if you say both or neither, we're drinking. Okay. Both neither, both neither. You know, this is like going to say it again. I wish I didn't smoke the cheap because now I'm, like, thinking about everything. I'm so introspective now. Boris. Boris. Ask me something on Blunts.

All right, the first one. What are you doing, Boris? Like, you're behind, bro. Bro, why do I look at you and I feel like I'm looking at myself? This is bringing me to fuck out. Oh, man. It's fruiting me to butt.

I swear not. You guys need to face off. You're mad on. I'm like, I'm a little too, man. They're going to be a lot of it. His name is Burrhe. Oh, my God. When I walked in,

I go, oh, Mo's here already. And I said, what's up to him. I said, oh, that's how Mo. Listen, bro. If people are going to be mistaken for me, we've got to get you dressing. We're going to take you out. We're going to go shopping, bro. I want people to think we're going to get you a job.

We're going to get all this fenced up and just pretend like it's being. What's the breaking, man? He's mad at that? I know, bro, you mad at me. He's like, no, you're unattractive. I thought I was more attractive. Hold on, get the sex. Terry Rice, he found it.

Terry Rice. What is it? Can you read it out? Read it out? Yeah, please. For my Iraq. It's Persian, yeah. It's Persian dish.

Okay. No, it's Iran. That's Iraq. Yeah, I think that, ain't that the same? Like, Persian and Iran? No, no. Iran is, yeah, they're Persian. But Iraq is not.

Oh, no, I'll say Iran. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Iran has the Kurds in the north. All right. So you ready? No, what are we doing? The choice. Yeah.

He knows. No, tell me again. Yeah, tell me again. We're going to give you two choices. Yes. If you pick one, yes, we don't drink. Okay. But if you say both, like, you don't want to answer, the politically correct.

If you say both? Both or neither? Neither. But we really just want stories from anybody we're mentioning. Have you got any stories? Okay, cool. All right. Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy.

Gee. God, dang. Comediana. Bro, it's like, both. It's got to be both. Yeah, what are we doing? I'm not going to drink, but I'm going to drink. I don't believe you at all.

Oh. I'll drink coffee. These are coffee shots. Kevin Hart or Chris Rock. Oh, dear, me. Ah, shabbat. Comedia! Fuck, bro, I hate,

this is much harder than I thought it was going to be honestly. I thought it was like, every time I watched these clips, I'm like, man, y'all's just too fucking choose. I mean, you got to have your reasons for you. Yeah, it could be any reason. It doesn't mean that one's a better comedian. I'm going to pick Kevin.

I'm going to pick Kevin, but I do love Chris Rocks. It's bigger and blacker. I mean, I listen to Out, that CD, like, a thousand times. One of the best. But I like Kevin Hart because he's so spontaneous all the time. I really like that.

Marlon Wains? I like storytelling too. It's beautiful. Marlon Wains or Damon Wains? Oh, my God. Love both of them. Absolutely love both of them. I love Marlon.

Always been very nice to me. I love him to death. He's fucking amazing. Movies that he's able to put off. I've got to go with the OG Damon Wians. Let me take this one. I mean, even Marlon. Even Marlon would say,

Yeah, he was like that's usually the best way to answer. The person is going up against him to say that question. David Wayne, stand up. Come on. I would you would call him. He don't play that also from a living color. I'm going to be honest. I think that this is like Middle Eastern shit right here.

They made it. Not really, though. Just so you know. These are not even Middle Eastern. Just FYI. You know what I'm trying to say. There's not Middle Eastern. That's the Colombian guy and Dominican guy over there.

They made this. All right. But I'm curious because one of them, shouting me out and one of them is my friend. Okay. Aziz Ansari or Russell Peter. Not Middle East.

I told them. I told her not Middle Eastern comedians for you. Ready? Aziz Assy's Asari and Russell Peters. They're just Eastern. That's what I'm in there. Come on. That's my first friend.

They're Middle Indian. They're Asian in anything. Yes. Both very, very different. Both, again, very, very different. But I do have to give it to Russell because he was like the first. guy in like i think it was like 2008 his clip went crazy viral and he was doing it globally where on a level that on a scale that i think very few people have even done today like they're

starting to do a lot more now than ever but russell was like when that shit popped it was it was like as far as stand-up stand-up is concerned it was uh not to be fuck with and it was really really dope to see because he spent so much time in stand-up and he was like an outside Hollywood guy, but inside Hollywood guy, like everybody knew him, but he really, really took it to a whole other level with that. So that's dope.

You know what I love about Russell Peters? You know, I hangs out with him a lot. No, no, no. Azee shouted you out. Aziz was like, how did Norrie? He was interviewing Farrell. And then he goes to Farrell,

because I keep forgetting, like, I made classic records. He goes, he goes, how did Norrie come up with that? He said, how did you want Norrie come up? What, what, what? And Farrell goes, it was just Norrie.

He goes, I just imagine Norrie. going, what, what, what? And I'm like, oh, shit, that was dope. And then, the rest of the people, I, I'm going to, but this is what I love. To me, there isn't a lot of all-out comedians. A lot of what? All-out comedians. Now, thank you.

A friend of mine, we just had on here, we had Jack Thriller on here. One time we had Jack Thriller on the show, and we start, like, talking, Jack starts getting, like, gangster. falls out of being a comedian as opposed to we I had Marlon Wayne's on here Martin Wayne gets out and he just looks at everybody and he connects with everybody

he just goes straight into being a comedian when I connect with people like y'all it just never lose being a comedian that's what I love about Russell Peters because every time I see him he finds something funny in everything we do whether it's a fucking lizard and I just love

pure comedians who stay being a comedian all goddamn damn day, like, you know what I'm saying? No, Russell's a great guy, bro. There's just very different, you know, people. Like, Aziz, I'm sorry. Like, I think the most, the thing they have the most in common is they both really love hip-hop, right?

Yeah. Russell was crazy for hip-hop, yeah. So, Russell's hip-hop, hip-hop. He's like more commercial hip-hop. Like, he's like, like, you can see Aziz got Travis Scott in his, in his playlist. And Russell Peters has Big Daddy King. Yeah, Grandmaster, Caz. I think Aziz likes hip-pop, Russell is hip-hop.

Yeah, there you go. Yeah, straight up, there you go. Fair. Yo, did we just start Indian beef? Because I don't want... For you, it's Middle Eastern beef. You know, I don't want, like, like, like, like, she'd be going on Twitter. I'm not going to lie, while we were talking, that's all I can think about it.

Both of them looking to be like, you didn't defend us. Why weren't you in there? Because it's hard out here, okay? This is not as easy it is. Because I can't believe y'all do this while. drinking. Because y'all like they cousins, right? Like how Jamaicans and Haitians are with the Indians.

Jesus Christmas. I'm asking. It's not. It's not. I can't even. Jamaicans and Haitians and not cousins? Y'all have been cousins for years. You've been wearing their belts.

Are that cousins? Yeah, I mean, there is. Yeah, there's camaraderie. Are you asking? I don't really understand the question. It's a very complicated thing. You don't know how like Jamaicans. I'm in the trade route from India to the Middle East, which you were

actually referring to, yeah, which is a cold. That's the smoking second, smoke in front of the ears. Come over. No, no, no, not in here. You go to that, bro. Take that shit over. This is. Can we share an a shirt?

You're the only guess. Why didn't you look at me like that when you ask for that? He had a swink on his eye. Would we share an ashtray together? Yeah, yeah. Add up a day. No, no, no. Share a bit.

Wash a little bit. What are you? Where are you talking? What show of my own? Okay, this one is good. Good. J.B. Smooth or Faison Love? J.B. Smooth.

It's J.B. Smooth, man. Did you watch the last season of Kirby Enthusiasm? Yes. Did you realize that he is the new Kramer? I didn't really put it together like that. If you notice, for years, Larry been saying that he fucked up the Seinfeld finale. So what they did were from... He said that? He feels like he fucked up the finale?

No, the world. said that to him. And he's always embraced it. Like, yo, you're right. So if you look at the last episode, Kramer says, I, excuse me, J.B. Smooth, who is Leon Black. He goes to Larry David and goes, I don't like Kramer because Kramer always jumping in and barging in and he's staying where he's not welcome.

That's exactly what Leon Black is doing at the time. And then they go to, they go and he goes, I'm going to watch, I'm going to watch Seinfeld. He's like, because I heard you fucked up the finale. and then he goes I don't even want your opinion Larry David to Leon and then they remake the whole shit over

and that's how Larry David's the fucking To me this is your and now I'm not blowing your horn This is how to talk about you when you're not around

I'd be like Cypah has the Larry David comedy Like if you don't If you're not knowing it Yeah Like you'll miss over your head

Because it's smart comedy You know what I'm saying? Like when we talked about people taking Brooklyn, you said, he said the white people took Brooklyn. And I was like, damn. Like, if you actually know what he's talking about? Yeah. Like, Brooklyn was horrible.

I've only heard stories, unfortunately. I was not there. He said that you could go off the Brooklyn Bridge, they give you a greeting map now. Yes. I hate it. I want people to still be wrong. I'm sorry.

I don't think you want to hear Robert. No, no, no, people. I'm not the people. Yeah. You just said to get robbed. Yeah. But I know, Brooklyn Bridge. You're going to get a city bike before you get a gunning for the end.

But yeah, but so, okay, so we got that, right? Dave Chappelle and Martin Lawrence. Dave Chappelle, I mean, it's my brother. I've done thousands of shows with Dave. Thank you so much. I appreciate you. You definitely smoke more cigarettes than Sunny D. I don't know if he smoked more cigarettes than Dave Chappelle.

I don't smoke more cigarettes than Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle will wear me out, smoke a cigarette. Because I ain't got a lot. I've seen you in Orlando. You did some shit like this. What? You were, I was, like, you did cocaine before. No, I thought.

Not like that. It's not like that. I keep my drugs vegan, bro. I keep my drugs vegan. Okay, okay, okay, all right, cool, cool. Dave, bro. No, you can't even... I've done thousands of shows with Dave.

Whatever person you said, it would always be Dave Chappropeg, right? I mean, like... No, it is, like, objectively. Not even... That's my brother, and I love him very much. And, like, I've seen what he did. Like, when he first started making his company... back and I started doing the shows

with him. I was always surprising. There's no like Dave won't give you lead time. Like you want come tomorrow? Yes, you want to come tomorrow? Next you know it turns into thousands of shows. And I'm really just blown away by his presence, his ability to like move to

writing to how he thinks his process. It's really really a massive blessing in my life that I was able to see that in real time. And he endured so much a long way get there is just really so inspiring for objectively just make some noise with that hell yeah yeah i tell you i'll tell you it's so ill bro it's so ill when i got to see comedians work

well i love to see that because it's like rap but it's not like rap because this is your own unique process but um he had a show he had friday saturday and sunday it was in the hollywood um har rock cafe so i went all three days first day awesome tore it down but you could tell like it was something bothering him, right? The next day, to the same as actual, tore it down, got it tight. But then that third day was like, it was like watching Superman.

Like, because it was like he, he learned on Friday when he shouldn't have did, whatever. I don't know, I don't know what he saw because I saw everything as being flawless. When he came to me, he probably thought as the illest, yes man in the world. He was like, how do you like, I love it? Because I really did.

Like, I didn't. I didn't see what he saw. But then the next day, I saw him tighten the show up more on that Saturday. On that Sunday, it was just like, it was like, I never saw Friday and Saturday. Right. Like, I got to see him make it in real time. Like, is that how you perfect your specials, too? You have to go out and, like, continue to perform and see what works and what doesn't work, even though we got to get...

First of all, you remind me the two things, okay? Number one is Big Sean. I need to call him out right now. He was on your show, and he mentioned how day. hooked up his dad and he came out and his father, can you remember this? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Big Sean, I am this crazy

you just omit me from the whole entire situation. Oh, this is actually, okay. This is actually a really special thing. Okay, I'm just fucking with Big Sean. He's a great, great dude. So I get tickets to Stevie Wonder tickets in Detroit, okay? Just random.

Random. What, what happened? No, Stevie Wonder story. Stevie Wonder's on here. Okay, all right, all right, good. Is it so, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't know that. So you saw him.

No, check you saw you. It's fucking is so. insane, bro. This night was crazy. So I go do a show on Wednesday in Flint, hilarious. I have an off day, yeah. Did you drink the water? Definitely did not drink the water.

I got it. The hell out of there. Unfortunately, but I go, so my friend she worked for the palace and I had an off day on Thursday. It happens to be Stevie Wonder. In Detroit, hometown situation.

You got two tickets. I'm like so fired up. I'm like, this is going to be amazing. I was like, I got her, who's going to go with me, though? So I hit up my friends that are from Detroit. Everybody's out of town. I was like, this is crazy. So annoying. So then I go, my boy's filming movies, great directors, and he's Q. He's directing a movie there. So I'm on his set. And I go, listen, bro, like, I got this extra ticket. What time you get out of here for Stevie Wonder, you want to go? I was like, oh, man, I'm directing all night. But I got tickets

for my mom. It's her birthday, and she's taking her best friend with her. And her best friend's husband doesn't have a ticket, would you mind him going with you? I was like, man, to go to Stevie Wonder with an older black man? Are you kidding? This is going to be the best fucking game ever. Like, that's exactly what I want to go with, right? Somebody who's like appreciates it and loves it as much as, you know, way more than I do probably. Like it's his era. So I said, yes, absolutely. So meet him up, hook him up, all this. We hang out. We're sitting in our seats, great seats. We're watching Stephen Wonder, this and that. And then, and then I see Freddy on is playing a harmonica.

I was like, oh, shit, I know Freddy. I was like, that's my friend. He goes, oh, and he looks at me. He goes, I just want to let you know, like, thank you for this. This means a lot to me. I was like, oh, no problem. Of course. This is the best, my pleasure.

I love Q, and this is an amazing, like, situation that happened. He goes, if you ever need anything, my son is Big Sean. What? He goes, my son is Big Sean. If you ever need anything, you know, like, I'd love to, you know, thank you. It's just showing appreciation. I was like, your son's, your son's been. Big Sean, I love Big Sean.

This is crazy. So it just became this thing. And once I saw Freddy playing the harmonica, I was like, oh, that's crazy. After the show, let's go, you know, try to go backstage and meet Stevie Wonder. And that would be so amazing. And then I see Freddy, Freddy sees me. He's like, what's up?

I was like, what's all? So now Big Sean was there. Like, what the fuck is going on? Like, how is this all happening? I was like, I don't even know how this is happening. And he gives me backstage passes. We go down, meet Stevie Wonder. He actually had to take his wife back and they had to leave.

didn't do it. But we exchanged numbers and when I came back that same time... Steve you exchanged numbers? Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Big Sean's father. And I went down and I made Stevie Wonder. This actually really fucked up. Because I took a selfie with Stevie Wonder and I forgot he was blind. I just

took a Steve. And he was like, did you just take a selfie? I was like yeah, how did you know? He goes, I can feel by your body movement. How do you change? I was like, oh man, I'm so sorry. I just want to let you know. I told him my appreciation and all this. And he goes, you got to give a time for an old man a smile

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Stevie ain't try to take your girl a night like that Oh wait for that thing You got a great story with Stevie 1 there Steve he's touching chicks Yeah Why he's touching chicks Listen by the way

Don't give the story away Because this stuff is too great No no no no By the way I'm gonna be honest with you I think if I'm walking down the street Stevie 1 to my swing on me What? No we have too many stories about him

Like on this show. And, all right, first was the Isley brothers came on here and said they saw him crossing the highway. That's the highway, a busy street. Come on. The highway to me, man. That's the fucking highway. A busy street?

First thing I'd ask is like, how old was Stevie Wonder at the time? Because, you know, his skills are extremely long time. Exactly. His skills are extremely refined at that point. His hearing is different. The Shack said that he went, they lived in the same building. And one day Shack got on the elevator. he was on the elevator ready, Shaq.

And Stevie got on the elevator and said, what's up, Diesel? This is Shaq's story. Shack has a particular aroma. And you know that aroma. Snoop dogs, and he facetimes him. Listen, come on, that's funny. I would FaceTime people if I was blind all the time.

Dude, that is funny. Because you can just go FaceTime so-and-so. You just be like, He's going to be a superstar his whole life, so he knows people want to see him when you FaceTime. And also he can see. He's what? Also he can see.

He can see. No, for real, bro. He might be legally blind, but maybe he did something there. Yeah, no, absolutely. That's a big show on you. Bless you. Well, big of Steve, you wonder. So that, and then you said about refining material also.

Like refining the material, but this is actually, Craig, Syf saw this in real time, pun intended, I guess, pun unintended, but I have a whole bit at the end of the special. It's more like a poem, bit, reflection, just trying to capturing the time, and it's all about time. The whole thing, and I wrote that the day before I filmed the special,

and it was like four pages that was kind of panicked over it. Not panic, but I was just very nervous. Panic is a good word. Yeah. I mean, like, look, that's very, it's not really the way you operate. You tour, you get the hour set, then you film it.

And in this scenario, I felt like something was missing. So I wrote like a three to four minute chunk all about time. And during the shooting of a special. No one does that. And had to memorize that? Yeah.

Nobody did. Wild. Yeah. It was nuts. It was really, I don't think you understand how it was. It came out fantastic. Yeah, it was great.

Okay Mike Epps or Chris Tucker Neither I can't pick I love them both Yeah you just like I love them both I love them both yeah exactly I'm gonna say neither the rest of the way

See what happens I'm not gonna lie to you If both I like both you know why it was genius Because they both played that same role In legendary Friday That's absolutely right If it wasn't for Chris Tucker

Probably would be a day day I would say Not Mike F's a day day Because I don't believe Mike Epps stole that picture as Mike Epps. I believe he stole it as Day Day Day. Because just the same way

we were calling Chris Tucker Smokey we were calling Mike Epps Day Day Day. Yeah, I mean, it's true. I mean, you can't really pick between the two, but Chris Tucker has like such a amazing on screen. When he came on the scene, like it was just, they took over everything, right? Took over everything. And Mike Epps

was similarly the same way. I really liked that Mike Epps has maintained, like, his stand-up and stand-up chops. That's why I just can't pick between others. Or else I would have said Chris Tucker. All right. Okay. U.G.K. or the ghetto boy?

Oh. You know I still live in Houston, right? You know, that's a cocaine section over here there, right? The Dominican and the Colombian. No, no. Both. Both. Obviously, both.

What am I can do, bro? I got to go home. And I love, and I genuinely, like, I think the first hip-hop track I ever heard in my life was my mind was playing tricks on me. by the ghetto boys. I was 10. I was 10. My brother had the tape, and I put it in, and I listened to it.

I was like, my mind was completely blown away. Wow. Yeah. Your Bumby has come out on a few Moammar shows. Yeah, no, Bumpy is, like, yeah, I love Bumby, bro. You had a Trill Burger? Of course, I've had a Trill Burger. Whether you like it or not, you're going to try the Trill Burger.

Like, you'll be just chilling here for a second, and Boney behind you, like, have you had a trill burger? Ah! Yeah, so, I'm so. That's the whole, so. By the way, they are delicious. They are delicious. I'm going to eat the vegan one.

Yeah. You got a vegan one? Yeah, yeah. I don't eat beef. So I forget for what holiday he came, but he came out here. You don't eat beef where he's surrounded by a six champagne bottles. Hey, man, this is the bread. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, wow.

Healthy living is. This is not champagne. This is Champagne. This is Champagne. This is Champagne. This is from the temps or Alps. Oh, my God. I gave you a segue for a plug.

It's great. Okay. All by, uh, Ralph Barbosa or George Lopez? George Lopez. No, wait, I thought he said George Carlin. No. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Yeah, I hate George Lopez.

No, no, no, no, no. Sating and, say it again, say, yeah. I know what's happening. I thought he said George Carlin. I thought you had a joke on me. You're talking about comedian beef, no, that's Mexican beef, though, right? No, no, because George Lopez said to the young Mexicans are not funny. You got to did that on purpose, bro.

Y' y'all fucking trick me, though. Yes, they are. I told you. One of my favorite comedians of all time is George Carlin, so that's the only thing I thought of, really. That was like all the, they're playing the game. They're messing with. Man, that's the white guy. They used to talk about politics, right?

He used to talk about everything. No, don't even say that, bro. Why would you say that? He's one of the greatest minds, comedic minds of all time. He wouldn't have liked Trump. He wouldn't have liked Trump. I don't think he likes either of them. He wouldn't like government.

Yeah. He doesn't like government. Josh Collins. But George Lopez is hating on all the little young. No, no. Ralph Barbosa. 100% Ralph Barbosa. That's my brother.

He was in season two of Moe. He's also like a genuine fucking guy. He's a skinny comedian? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Ralph Barbosa for 100% Ralph Barbosa. That's my guy. Yeah. I love him to death.

And fucking solid work tricking me, Dominican. But I like how you're skipping up with George Lopez is hating on the younger comedians. I don't like that. First of all, you should never do that. It's really fucked up. I was always a young,

you know, I started as a 17-year-old in the club. What did you exactly say? I don't know exactly the full bit, but I know he was shitting on, on, on. Yeah, he was on a podcast with Steve Trevino. Trevino, yeah. And Steve Trevino was talking about the young comics coming up in the game

that he feels like the comedian game. Did he actually name these comics? Yeah. He said that he's like, for example, Ralph Barbosa. Oh, wow. And he was saying how the comedy game is thriving right now. And George was like, who's that? I don't know him.

Damn, George. And okay, you don't know. So that Steve, did Steve try to start explaining to him while he's a young Mexican from Dallas? He's doing this, this, and that. And George was basically saying, like, nah, I don't talk to people. like dad, don't put them on. You're giving them the easy way out. Yeah.

Wow. Well, fuck you. Fuck you. For you. This is the time when Ralph was blowing up on. Yeah, that's crazy. On YouTube. And, and, I mean, Ralph, bro, I love Ralph to death.

He, he hit me. I was doing a show in Houston. Great guy, man. Before he was anything, and I'm nobody. He hit me, he's like, hey, can I come open for you? And I always try to put comments on. That sounds like I'm respecting. I want to get back to that.

because I heard you say that a couple of times. A comedian has another comedian. It's not normal. It's not normal. It's not normal. But it's like a show of respect for sure. Especially if you're like a season guy and all this stuff. And you look up to him. He's so humble. Bro, Ralph, first of all, works his ass off. He's doing it right.

He's in the clubs. Of course he's funny. And he's just, the more important part is that he's really, really working on his craft and respects the crap. He knows the crap. For George Lopez to say, nobody knows that motherfucker or whatever it is, First of all, it's so, as someone who started as a kid in the game, it's very, very disheartening to hear that kind of discouragement

because you could throw somebody off the tracks completely or you can get stronger, but now you're taking away the spirit. You're taking away the spirit of somebody like, why are you doing this? You know, especially you don't even know Ralphie looks up to you, loves you and all the stuff. And guess what, motherfucker? You're going to retire at some point. You're going to stop doing it. It's going to fizzle out.

And all you're going to have is these young guys that look up to you and say, come and say your name. That's what's going to keep you alive. So you're doing that. That's straight up hating. Fuck that shit. And I'm going to just be honest with you. Yeah.

I don't know in the content it was axed. It doesn't matter. The context it was asking because now. It doesn't matter. The context is not matter. You're correct. And first of all, that's not to throw shade on George Lopez. George Lopez is extremely accomplished.

Did it the right way, like stand up wise, like putting in the time, putting in the effort, worked his way up. Here's my point. this moment. And also you can't say by George Lopez without mentioning Paul Rodriguez. That's right. Like Paul Rodriguez, he's the one to have the first sitcom as far as I remember as someone of his background and he's the one who opened those doors. Like if that

was bigger than it was, you know, he anticipated he could have, they might not have been a George Lopez or he just would not exist without Paul Rodriguez. What I'm saying is the older you get, the less of troll senses you have, right? Meaning they don't, they, like, I could tell if someone's trolling me the

minute you open your mouth. I'm like, Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't play this game. But sometimes the older you get, you don't, those senses don't go off, despite these senses. So they could have been asked, like, hey, like, it could have been acts in a disrespectful way.

Like, hey, man, you know, these young comedians, they're coming in there. They're coming for you, a spot. And then he could, so that's what I'm saying. I'm going to give him a benefit of the doubt because I don't think, I don't think it's just a natural thing for an elder comedian to look down on the person on his race. No, no, they do that.

They probably do that. As far as I know, I'm not sure, like, there's some comedians that don't even like, you know, people of their background touring with them you know it happens and I think that these had this But that's also You hear more stories like you guys You guys getting together

I like to mix it up That world is a start of country That world is a little different Because it's comedy But it's also Mexican And they got their own rules They got their own system So there was like yeah

So like that that That whole beef with Ralph and George blew up comedy-wise Like we were like Oh you shouldn't do that He's a young good comedian But in the Mexican world It's like, oh, it's even

Ralph was telling me there's a difference between Texas Mexicans and California and he was like, and a lot of people was like, oh, you, you're talking bad about young Mexicans, you don't put no Mexicans on or the Mexicans don't be around. So that's all, that beef went even deeper than just comedy.

I take on a very different approach from this young Arab guys, because I had no, I didn't have anybody. That's what I was asking you. I didn't have anybody. Because who do you have to look up to? As far as like, people from my background, And there was no Arab stand-up community.

Arabs? Yeah, it was zero. I started stand-up in 1995. It's my first time to stand-up. I started touring. I started touring. That's not even an Arabian. He's wrestling and he's Zawami.

He's purge. He's not even close. Oh, bad. It isn't. It is, but it isn't, but it isn't. You know? But I didn't have anything like that at all. I didn't have anything like that at all.

I was creating the own road or the own path. And actually, like, this is the one thing that, like, the comedians would hate on when I was first starting is like, oh, he's just talking about where he comes, it's so hacky, he's talking about his Arab family and his Arab family. Bro, nobody had, I've never seen this on stage before. Right. This is not been touched upon. You can never, this is, it wasn't, you weren't doing only that. But I wasn't doing only that, yes, but also it was like, so what? This is the point.

It's all original material that's based off of my life and stand-up is that, you know? so that's like and so that being said like I try to look out for guys that I know they're doing well that are from my background that are you know ask me questions my my phones always yeah stick a shot you know ready yeah 100% so not the iron sheik not the iron sheik but yes the iron sheet but no I think is really really important to that and that's what like I want to I want to give them the game I want to give this exactly how you do it you know and whoever you calls me and there's a young community out of Toronto that open up for me that I talk to him all, you know, whenever he needs it. Like he hits me up. There's guys that tour together and just I think

it's important to share information. Not just with that, even with Seif and I, because Seif is, you know, how many years you've been doing stand-up? I mean, now 15. Yeah, 15 years. I mean, it's that point, you know, it's that point. You go through different growths and you're like, hey, what was it like when you were 15 years in? This is what you do. This is what it is. And so my mentorship went only so far with my original teacher and with Dave, he was able to teach me about this altitude, you know?

It was a different altitude to it. It's a different game to it. So there's like getting your PhD or something, you know what I mean? Right. Oh, yeah. That was a good one, though. It's all it work. It's all it work, guys. Tim Carrey? Please take away that fuck up.

Jim Carrey or Will Farrow? Yeah. Wow. Wow. Wow. wow I bro I genuinely love both them very much and I grew up you know obviously watching Jim Carrey and that's the guy I will

oh I can't that's a rough one that's a rough one that's a good one who came up with that one really really good one I'm gonna say I'm gonna fuck I really love both of them very much but I'm gonna give it to Jim Carrey I'm gonna say Jim Carrey I'm not gonna say both I wanted to but I'm gonna say Jim Carrey

just because like watching the the variety of roles that he was able to accomplish and to be so to the Truman Show and to liar, liar, to Jim Carrey kind of showed us to what our life was going to be like. We're all in the Truman Show right now. Yeah, we're trapped in our phones.

Absolutely. We're all in our own version of the truth of shows. Yes, yes. No, I just love the variety of roles. Which one? Idiocracy. You never seen that movie? Yeah, I don't think so. Go watch that movie. This is exactly what we're living like right now.

Facts. The smartphones made us dumb. I'm sorry. agree. I agree. It's like a slippery slow. It's kind of, I agree, and I don't agree. It's how you use it. It's always like how you use it. Like, AI could be exceptional if it's used for good, but we all know that

it's going to be used for bad. They got drones now. They got drones that can just shoot you. You know, they got drones that can follow you. AI is dope for people like DLC for use it for his voice. People like Beanie Siegel who use it for their voice. But then it's horrible because those same people that can

use that same voice could call a bank and tell them, hey, man, release $100,000. And it's the same voice. Why wouldn't the bank believe them? So that's a plus and a minus. The way you're talking is like someone who has a lot of money. I just got a flyer. That's the truth, right?

All right, all right. All right. So go ahead. Next one. Chevy Chase or Steve Martin? Oh. Oh my God. I'm going to say both.

Okay. I'm not going to pick one. I love Chevy Chase, though, too. And Steve Martin, very different. Chevy Chase. I picked Chevy Chase. Oh, is it too nice? James Volusci or Chris Farley?

Chris Farley. My favorite work. I know. I keep fucking it up, man. I love it, Jimitian. It's the indifikumada. James Volushi or Chris Farley? Chris Farley.

Wait, who? Jim Ballucci. Jim Ballucci. You know what you're right, Jane Bush. Hey, because that's his nickname. Jim's and James and James, you know what I'm saying? You know, my middle name is James. No man says James, because I told her a minute you make John.

No, Chris Farley. I picked Chris Farley as a matter of fact. James, Santiago, what up? No way, that's your middle. That's my middle name, yeah. I pick, I picked Chris Farley. And Chris Farley was the, I really loved it. Yeah, Tommy Boy, right?

Yeah, rest and peace. Yeah, rest in peace. I think December 18th, he passed away, yeah, 1955 or 96 or something like that. Yes, but no, I grew up admiring very much. It was the first time that I saw a fat guy on television that was hilarious. It was him and John Candy also. I love very much. I love John Candy.

But Chris Farley, when I first did stand-up in school, I would roach the class in a little coat. Yeah, I would wear a little coat. Fat guy in a little coat. You know that? You got a guy. You got a real comedian, bro. I was like, no, my, whirr.

There's always that shit. I would always do that. I would put on a little jacket, and I would roast people in class as Chris Farley. And I also met Chris Farley. I was 13 years old. It was Planet Hollywood openings, remember that? Yeah. And so they had it in Houston, and I was like, oh, my God, Chris Farley's coming.

And they had, like, Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger, like, all these, Bruce Willis. Bruce Willis had a blues band at the time. And so, and I was just like, all I can think about is just meeting Chris Farley. That's my guy. Like, I always wanted to be on SNL. I'm going to do S&L. You got the comedy bug. Like this is, oh, man, I knew that I was going to, like, be in SLA.

I wanted to do that. Like, that's all I can think about was Chris Farley. And when I met him, I saw him coming up, and I grabbed his hand. And I was like, I love you. And I wouldn't let go. And it was like, oh, me too. Like a little more. And I was like, oh, my God, it just happened.

You know, it was just happened. And that just made my whole life, bro. I was just like, oh, my God. And Arnold Schwarzenegger walked by. I was like, oh, cool, you know. Where the fuck was you had? That was so cool. It was the planet Hollywood grand opening.

And we got there early so we can be right against the railings so I can meet Chris Farley. That's all I can think of is I just wanted to meet Chris Farley. I genuinely did not like, I obviously felt good to see like, oh, you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger and this guy and Bruce Willis and it was dope. A fat guy and a little coat. That was like seeing a reflection of me as a little kid, bro. I loved it. Like, see you. Horace and you seeing each other right?

now i respect that i don't feel it here okay i don't feel it here um flip flip or zero i know you man little flip or zero i got i got that i got that i got a i got a i got a guy yeah both both we had them both one too together no no bro that houston shit you can't do you can't you can't you can't play with the you know what so dope about here since you go flip was at my show in houston yeah man yeah little flip was just in the show right he came out to the show he came out of the show he came match to the show in Houston, popped on. And the way he went on stage and did the way we ball, and the whole fucking place went crazy. Yeah, bro, you can't.

No, Houston, you can't play with the rappers. You know what I called Little Flips? He's a walking store. Who? Little Flip. Walking store. Everything he has. He sells.

You never see him walking. He walking in. He's getting a cup is for sale. Hey, the shirt that he got on and everything. He's a hostile. I love it. I got us back forever. All right.

Johnny Carson or David Letterman? Oh. Man, this is like really, really annoying. But I'm going to say David Letterman. That's the one that gets to be in now, right? Yes, yes. I'm going to say David Letterman. And I love Johnny Carson.

And when you went on Carson back in the day, that's like you made it. You just go up there. I mean, people will go up on Carson, do five minutes, and you could tour and make a living. you got famous that overnight. You're just automatically famous. So I got to tip the hat big time to Johnny Carson. Oh, going to here today.

You know, that's right. And he was one of the most brilliant interviewers. Like, he would really ask questions. See, now you're rubbing off of me. He really acts questions. He would really ask questions to really be a fantastic host, and he would let the talent do their thing. That was really, really cool.

David Letterman was my era, right? David Letterman, somebody looked up to, loved. And I met him in the cornfields in Ohio when we were doing those shows with Dave in the cornfield during the pandemic. And he came out, and I was so excited because I wanted to do Letterman. And then he retired and ended up doing the late show six months after retired. So I was like, man. Six months after he? Yeah, yeah, yeah, with Stephen Colbert.

Oh, with Stephen Colbert. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so he came out to the Cornfield. I'm like, that's all I care about is I want to perform for Letterman. I don't even care about the crowd. Right. So I went out there and gave the best fucking show I could. And I asked my man.

I was like, did he like it? He was like, yeah, he liked it. I was like, yeah, he liked it. I was like, fuck. And then Dave's boy, Paul came over. He's like, bro, David Letterman was loving your shit. He was like, who the fuck is this guy? He was like hunched, over laughing.

I looked at him. I was like, why the fuck you tell me? He just liked it. He was like, I don't want you to head to be too big. I was like, this is not the time to be trying to teach me. Don't be coy right now. And it was really amazing. And Letterman walked in and he went up on stage with Dave.

Surprised the audience. The whole place went crazy. And he just kept. giving me props from the stage. He was like, what about Mo? Wow! And just, like, amazing. Wow. And then, like, a week later, we ended up having a phone call, just like a chicken.

He wanted to, I wanted to, you know, talk to him, and he wanted to get to know me a little bit better. And we spoke on the phone for, like, an hour. By the way, really funny, I just got divorced. I'm sitting at a park in Houston, staying at a hotel. So, like, like, season one? Yeah, right before I started doing, yeah, right before season one. So season one is very official? What?

Like, you like, like, season one, like how you? you like broke up is that like efficient yeah yeah that was real yeah i mean it was like that season well i was acting okay okay i was acting but it was not before i started before i started filming the first season i was uh just i got divorced and um and i'm sitting in a park and i'm on the phone i'm looking around see some moments people walking around and i'm basically seeing a reflection of myself on some level put him on the phone with david letterman the person i've like looked up to admire for so long and wanted to be on the show and we're having this like one hour conversation

about life and how I got here and it was just really, really beautiful. That's love. Yeah. God damn. Make some noise from Dave Latterman. Hey, it's big. And he did while he was interviewing Dave. He didn't know me at the time. I was wearing a mask and all

that shit, didn't even know who I was. And he goes, where you're from? It was like Houston. And he goes, I'll be seeing you in Houston. That's what he said to me. I'll be seeing you in Houston. And for some reason, I just felt like really Like, Syria. Like, yeah. Like Santa Claus.

I think I am going to see you. For real. I just feel like. Santa Claus is telling you, I got that gift for you. It was really interesting. You know what I mean? Like that word. Yeah, it was like, you're just, yeah, interesting.

All right. Nas or Jada kiss? They boo. Who? I don't know. Nas or Jada kiss? Huh. You deferring to Cyper? I got a hip-hop phone call.

Is there a hip-old? Yeah, is there a hip-old-old-Dife pick that one. Seif should pick that one. No, I'm not it. I want it. I want it from my own. drink champs episode one day. Inshallah, inshallah.

I'm going to say naz. I'm going to say nash. Okay. Both. Both. Fucking both. I can't do it. You're right.

All right. Let's see the shot. Go ahead. You can do it, buddy. Def jam comedy or in living color? There's a two separate, John. It's not even the same thing. One is a sketch comedy and one is the stand up.

One is a standout. They're both. I take a shot, but they're both. They're both. Both. There's both. Yeah, definitely both. they both like did something significant

in the culture. One was for sketch and making one of the most diverse shows on television and then you have, you know, what are you laughing at? You don't think it was diverse? I'm sorry, I shouldn't say it. Fucking cut that out. Why are you laughing?

Good stuff, but no, no, that's good stuff. This is the preview stuff. Okay, I don't believe it. I think he was capping right now. I think you're setting me up. Yeah, both. This one is a little... Shout out Stan Lathan.

It's a little weird. It's a little weird. but, um, Patrice O'Neill or Robert Harris? I didn't know Patrice. You didn't know. You didn't know. I didn't know. I wish I did, but I'll pick Patrice.

Yeah. Wait, do you know Robin? No. Oh. I didn't get to meet Robin, but I met Patrice multiple times. That was one of the funniest people on Earth. Yeah, Patrice is like the top three. Like, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can, he can freestyle.

like he can walk in the room and take this piece he could take hazbread shirt he could take rast his dreads and chips glasses and just make a whole story out of that shit like right then and there and replay he's there he was there I started working out before he passed away

started working out with him yeah because I had lost weight and I was on Angela Yisho yeah and yeah she has it all documented and I work and he was like yo man you know look you're working out And I was like, this was back then, you know what I mean?

And I was like, yeah. And he's like, yo, Von, and we took each other's numbers, and I started to work it out with him. Patri, can I say one thing about Patrice? Yeah, please. This is when I started doing comedy. And I watched, you know, all the greats kill all the time, or even specials or deaf comedy or whatever.

I went to go see Patrice live at a club, and he was kind of bombing. And also, like, he made a lot of women upset and a lot of women were leaving. But I loved it. And that's when I really learned, like, oh, every show is its own thing. And if you don't like what I'm saying, you could leave. But this is what I'm doing.

And that was really one of the greatest moments for me for stand-up, though. I was learning like, oh, you got to be you. Like, when you first start doing comedy, you kind of almost impersonate some of your favorites. And you try to be like, I want to be energetic like this guy or thoughtful like this guy. And everyone tells you one of the biggest pieces of advice is that you got to find your own voice. You got to find your own voice. And it takes time to get that.

And I watch, I said, oh, this is his voice. And it showed me, yeah, show me you don't have to be like. He's very offensive. Yeah, bro. And he would be like, you feel that? You see that? See how them girls are sucking the fun out of the room? And I was like, oh, my God.

And then we get so upset, but I was like, he's right. I went to a comedy show with him one time, and a dude says something. And then he's with his girl. and then he looked at it and he looked at it. I was like, I could tell you don't suck this nigga dick that I was like,

oh my God, bro. I was, I'm offended. I'm actually, he gave me the tickets to go see him. That's crazy. And I'm like, Patrice, you can go into. The way it was stand-up was described to me very early on

by my mentor is like, you spend all these years on stage to eventually be yourself. Yeah. Like when you first start, you have this, like wall in front of you. Every time you go up, that repetition is like chipping away at that

wall. Eventually there's no wall and you're just yourself. It takes a long time and some of the times the things that you emulate from people you looked up to is just even subconscious, you know? Yeah. It's not even like a conscious thing. You're doing it. Those are you 've seen behind you, do it at the highest

level. Therefore, it's in there, right? Even when I watch my special, I'll just be like, oh, that little tone sounds like Carla, or this is like so and so. This is very interesting. It's a little small thing, but it's all performative, right? It's all like understanding how you say a certain word. It's not like you think about it, you just do it, right?

Right. You know, and there's some people that do think about it that need to write it out, and every single word is what they hang on, and they depend on that. And I never came up like that. Every time everything I do is improvised. Everything I write is on stage, spontaneous, based off a particular thought, and you build it out from there, and how you deliver that story or those words are just,

It's just, you just do them. You don't think about it. It's real. Yeah. You got to find that comfort zone. Harry Spears or Desi Banks. Both. Salo.

Da bingo. What's the way you say? They're not the same thing. I don't know how you're comparing them. Yeah. We never know how anything is compared. David Allen Greer or Tommy Davidson. Oh, that one is crazy.

Oh, that was crazy. That was definitely both, too, bro. Tommy Davidson, like, when I first started stand-up and watching him in the clubs, he was, like, a decimated. I heard Tommy Davidson was the illest person. So funny, though. I heard that he was. I just thought he opened up for Cat Williams, and he was hilarious.

Look, the reason why I say both, because they're all so different, you know? Like, Alan Greer is a very, like, stage guy, like, came from the stage. The way he did stand up. He was a theatrical guy. That's where he came from. Tommy's from the streets, bro. He's, like, he brought that energy. He brought that, like, like.

Like, just like, he was so fucking funny. He was shut it down all the time in Houston. Whenever he was doing his day, he was shut it down. And then see Alan Greer and how he's with his acting, his performance, his comedic timing, all that. He's extremely special. He's just very different. So you can't, I can't pick one or one over the other. Delirious or raw?

Comedia. Oh, you're in a picker now. Also, Eddie Murphy was only like... It's only two specials. It's 22, right? When he did Raw, like 20 when he did Delirious. Yeah, it's crazy. I'm going to say both.

It's Eddie against Eddie. Both. Yeah, both. I think the various was better. Deliris? I think so. It was... Which one?

That's the one with the Reds? Yeah, the Red was incredible. Because I think it was more like... It was rough around the edges. I think that's what made it better. Yeah. Those, yeah, those comedy movies... They were both amazing.

They were both amazing, bro. I love both of my hand. Paul War or Mike Jones? Both, baby. I mean, Paul was like my best friend. I love this guy's pieces. You don't got grills? I'm going to say both.

Yeah, I do have a gril. I do have grills. Yeah, I'm going to say both. I respect both. Who? I should have said that. I fucked up. Mike Jones.

Do you still got the same number I heard? Call it up. Let's see. Oh. Well, we want Mike Jones on a cell. Paul Wall, he was like, that guy is my brother, man. He always checks up on me. He loves this guy, bro.

I grew up. up listening to him and to know that he's my friend and my brother, like, I really appreciate him. He can't, he's been really, really a great friend. And that's why I used still tipping in the series in the first season. Black people, we say, like, you know, when a person is down, like, invited to the barbecue, I haven't known a time with Paul Wall, was not invited to the barbecue. He's been to every barbecue I've ever been to. Please.

He's been the one. And he's bringing potato salad, too. Yeah. And it's legit. It's legit. grapes and if this is what makes like a really like a great human is that when they're not there they're missed you know you're like it's one thing to always be at the barbecue when he's not there's like man where is he at yeah yeah this shit this is fun but you know I love y'all but he's like he brings that little energy and I see I see him ice out of fish yeah he ordered a fish it came out with the teeth he put the teeth on the grill I was like I you don't believe that she's just talking shit that's not true no no no no it's on the Instagram I don't know for a fish. I don't know if it was his actual grill and he took

it off. He put it up, but he posted on Instagram. Fish had the grill. Yeah. The fish had a grill that he was about to earlier. If I see, I don't know what kind of fish are you talking about? Let's make some noise with World War, man. That was a rich chick. He gave me my first bitch. I gave me my

first bitch. I gave you a like immediately. And the fire emoji. Um, okay. John Candy or Sam Kesson Kandeson Fuck Again two different

What are you guys doing Who makes this list? I told you cocaine Paco he frontal Yeah There's an actor Two fat white comedian I mean

I love him both For many reasons But I'm gonna pick John Candy I'm gonna say John Candy John Candy John Candy got too many Too many I just love his subtlety

I studied his acting Actually when I Before I did my show He's like a big influence on me too Okay. Yeah. Uncle Buck? Uncle Buck, bro.

Uncle Buck, yeah. I had a whole drunk uncle. I had a whole mixtape that I dedicated to Uncle Buck. Bro, how he like shifts gears from being funny to dramatic. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And trains, planes, planes, planes. It's a saddest scene in a comedy movie ever.

Yeah, broke my heart. No, a dope-ass movie. Yeah. Robin Williams or George Carlin? Dang, bro. Can you call me next time for this place, please? Rest and peace of bullshit. That's poor war.

Grill with the fish. That's all right. You know, I'm not making sure. This is so different, man. Again, like, this is a really impossible situation. You said Robin Williams and George Carlin. George Carlin. That Robert Williams did miss Delfire.

He did a lot. Look, Robin Williams is an improvisation. I'm going to stop smoking this blood. No, you guys and keep for me. improvisational genius. Robert Williams is an improvise. I can't even say it anymore, bro. What kind of weed are you smoking here?

It's good. Yeah, he improvises like no one I've ever seen. Like Robert Williams, yeah, he's unbelievable. And George Carlin is probably the most, one of the most sophisticated writers and definitely in my top five of all-time stand-up comedians. So, yeah, I love the fact that Carlin could be, like, goofy, the shit that people shit on. Like, you don't even know, like, how goofy and outrageous he was in his material very early on. And he kept that, he kept that weirdness, that quirkiness, that fun, silly, little kid, energy all the way up until the 70.

Just the subject matter. It would get more serious. By the way, modern man. Yeah. Modern man. Have you seen that clip? The George Cunning clip, probably one of the greatest bits ever written. It's unbelievable.

Talk about something that's seeing. George Croner was off to change. They said George Carlin filmed an HBO special and got in the limo and started writing the next one. I believe it. Like, in the car. Like, okay, I got to. Yeah, he's that brain, bro. He's that kind of brain.

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and Robert Williams was genius too, man. He had a different reputation in stand-up, though, you know? Like, he would take, what do you didn't do this? That's what I know. That's the reputation. So in stand-up is very different. Like, when you talk about actors,

just improvisation, oh my God, I can't fucking... What's going on? You got to take the grill out. Yeah, I got to take the grill out. You know, as far as someone who's spontaneous and able to take a particular subject matter and just run with it like that,

yeah, beat it to death, bro. So he's the best king of that. So it's really, really, It's very different people, but I'm going to say both because I love them. We drink her right? Yeah, yeah. We drank her ready? I thought we drank three times. All right, cool.

I'm on. Titus and tail of the tent tails was the tini of the tent mouse. I feel like I need to do a vocal exercise to get my shit back. JZ or Big Daddy Kane? You can call your hip-hop friend? Can I call all this? Who do you pick? Please just pick one for me.

Pick that one for me. There you go. Since y'all are best friends. Best, too. I'm fucking up. I mean... Remember what we said before. Who would say who?

But then maybe probably not. It's your criteria. It's your criteria. You can't. You're going to get mad at you no matter what. Nah, they're about getting mad. It's just like, you know, you got to, if you start breaking it down,

there is no Jay-Z without Big Daddy Kane. There's no... I put this recently on Instagram. There's not a lot of people without Big Daddy King, right? 100%. Um, but Jay-Z took it to a whole Another level If I had to, if I had to pick, if I, if I had to pick, I, if I had to pick, I, damn, they're both my friends.

Nope. I, I, I, I, I, I, I always say, oh, so. There you go. Yeah, he picks, I would have picked, I would have made, he's actually just said, Hove, I would pick JZ 100%. Well, because he married a Houston girl. Yes, exactly. I heard you say that. Beyonce is God, and if you don't

say she's God, you go to hell. I would never. I'll never say that. I'm stuck for a lot of blood. No, no. No, no. All my Muslims out there watching, just want to, you know, I had nothing to do with this. And I'm going to help him once the cameras go off. I'm going to talk to him. I mean, I'll discuss with him about God and the existence of God.

And how your incomprehension of God is your comprehension of God. Don't think that this was happening here at the table that I am ever so absent of where I come from in my roots and where I am. I'm very well. The entire time we've been talking I've been praying in turn

for God's forgiveness and to make sure to absolve me for anything like this because I God damn it my bad What do you say about Beyonce I didn't say anything about Beyonce Other than the fact that she comes from Houston

She went to like A-Leaf for a day And everybody's like she's from A-Leaf But she's from third ward And everybody's fighting she's from both Okay, she's from both areas And we both celebrate Beyonce, yes I'm not I never said those words So you said something as like if you don't

Wait wait say it I don't know I forget what it is but I just I heard it with your words With your words My words Beyonce It was on a radio station Listen to all your interviews

Oh maybe it was on it was on Fallon And I think it was on Phelan You're like if you're from Houston You have to like No no I never said that I never said that No no I don't believe You know what you said about Beyonce

I see yeah Obviously, she's like the queen. Is Beyonce? Queen, okay. You don't go to fact. The queen of music, please fact the shit out of it. Because I've never seen it. Beyonce is that word, for sure I would never say it.

Not God. Not God. Yeah, God, I'll stop for the one of them. Not God. You do not attach God with anything. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, thank you. And I got these candles in front of you, bro.

I'm going to be over. What's about you, Captain? The story. It's us. Okay, that's good. So you're depicting your. as a spiritual creature. I don't understand what's happening.

No, we're fast. We don't, oh, that's nice. Can I get these made for myself? Yeah. We'll have you here in the middle of us right next time. The only Mexican prince. Oh, my God. I don't think of them.

Cat Williams or Jamie Fox. Jamie Fox? Jamie Fox. I just think that, I mean, I love Cat Williams, too. But I think I'm going to go with Jamie Fox. influenced me a lot when I was a kid like just watching him on television his abilities bro

from being a singer to crossing over to from a stand-up to sketch to acting to Ray what the fuck dude he did Ray yeah I believe he was Ray I think he thought he was Ray yeah I thought he was Ray

he was blind he was blind up it was really really just a masterclass I've never seen anything like it I've probably watched that movie at least a dozen times at least But we can't put on Cat Williams, neither. Yeah, no, no. Like the other day, let me tell you how influential Cat Williams was.

The other day, I walked in a bike lane, and everyone is very mean in the bike lane. I don't know if we know about that. They're like, get out the bike lane, you don't belong in a bike lane. So I got in a bike lane, and this guy comes, and he circles around me. And I go, you know what, sir, I'm sorry. He goes, don't be sorry. And then in my mind, you know what I said? Do y'all know what I said?

Because this is how powerful Cat Rhyams is. So he said, he said, don't be sorry. I said, I'm going to be careful. Don't be sorry, ho. Be careful. And that's how powerful it was. Like the dude said, don't be sorry. And I just automatically throw the pack.

I want to keep going on that because cat, phenomenal. Little L.S.A. walk is hilarious. Like, he's just fucking classics, right? And just hanging out with him. Like, I remember it was like the moment he and Dave, like, met up for the first time in a while, I think, at the store. Because they had beef for a little bit, right? Yeah, it was no beef. Anyway, yeah, it was no beef, but it was beef, but it was no beef.

That was the funny part of the story. Anyway, we all went out that night to a diner, and, bro, cat was so generous. He was, like, serving people, taking care of everybody, tipping out like crazy. He's always been very nice. Every time I've seen him out, like, that's what he's like. He treated me to golf in Houston. Like, he came through. We played golf before I filmed season one.

I, like, snuck out, went and hung out with him. Okay, so here's the weird question. Yeah, it's real, real nice dude, bro. So here's the real question. I'm changing it up. Dave Chappelle. Take a shot for that? Yeah, yeah, take a shot, yeah.

You could take a shot. I mean, he pissed him. Yeah, yeah. Fuck is that extra shuffle. Yeah, yeah, he just take a shot. He wants to take a shot. Let him live, bro. Let him live.

No, all right. Cowell's a great actor, too, that you know what he was in Atlanta. Yeah. The episode of Atlanta. He's incredible. He did? Yeah, he went to amy for that.

And we were out that night. Dave did a pop-up and he came through. It was like the most unbelievable night. He won an Emmy for that role in Atlanta? I'm pretty sure that's what he got an Emmy for. I think he's not known how great. Like, I don't think people are giving him enough. I know.

You don't get their credit for him. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just, yeah, I really think that, Yeah, he's incredible, bro. There's no doubt. They're both very different again. It just, I grew up on Jamie Fy. It's a little different.

I'm going to take this very personal. Yeah, okay. Kirby, a thousand, enthusiasm? Oh, what? Kirby, thousands in there? Yeah. See what happens, bro? He's not, man.

I can't. I already know what you're going to say. That's a pause. Or Seinfeld. Yeah, that's a pause, bro. Or Seinfeld. It's not going to. Kirby enthusiasm or Seinfeld?

Kirby enthusiasm. It's no question. It's no question. What's what you like? No, I like, well, first of all, in his world, Seinfeld has, there's some, some foul shit going on. There's no black people in Saanville? No, no, no.

In the Palestinian world. Oh, what, was there you fucking Palestinians in Saanville? No, there was just like. Who should he say to put me on? Like, you know, I'm naive. I mean, it's genuinely has nothing to do with whatever Seinfeld has said, like him saying, you know, somebody

catching him off, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, he's not in Seinfelders. See, you just confuse it in a whole situation. He started shit when there's no, there's no shit, but there's no shit. Hey, hey, hey, hey, we're right here. Objectively, objectively, I,

I love, uh, Kirby enthusiasm. I think it's the, I like the fact that it's edgier, it's, you know, it's more real and unfiltered, like, you say whatever you want. And it is, a lot of it is, improvised, and you can just see. Yeah, curb. That's, yeah. Now, not to say, like, you know, whatever I feel about something, it doesn't fucking matter.

It's still objectively as a show, the structure, the characters. I mean, it's all about, like, Kramer, George and Elaine, and those are, like, really one. Yeah, I could count the amount of black people that's there. Yeah, yeah. But they had somebody, I don't know where it's. That's why, J.B. Smooth. Remember Abu? He had the, it's very racist.

All of us kind of racist. I'm going to Pakistan Yeah, it didn't work Definitely, I'm a curb guy for sure Okay, so you, where are you going with? I'm first, I love Seinfeld, the show I remember I saw the first episode air live on TV Because I saw him on Johnny Carson

And I went to watch the show And my mom walked and she's like, what the fuck he watching? Seinfeld In the 80s But I like Kerb better And the reason why is because the way Curb works is there's no script there's no script for Kirby

enthusiasm. There was no script for them. Yeah, there was 100%. That's what it was born in the family. He wrote the script. No. Yeah, no. Yeah, there's a hundred percent.

I thought it was not improvised. It's very, very serious. No, that's true. He wrote that. Yeah, that's curve has a lot of people wrote on the show, but surely, like, the mind, you could tell, like, once you watch Curb, you're like, oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah, it makes sense. It makes sense. It makes sense. It makes sense. It's a damn near reality show. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, Kerb is... If you watched the first episode,

the first episode, which was the trailer, which wound up being a pilot, like, he didn't even want to be there. Like, it was real HBO execs. They had to switch them to actors. Oh, wow.

Yeah, because he's pissing the real HBO execs all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, you got 300 million. Who do you fuck? He's the fuck about doing this reality show. Take your 400 million. Yeah, yeah. The first episode, yeah.

No, no, no. That's the... The first episode was when he met. that guy. That, that's the film episode. When he went to, they went to the delivery store and they got the orders mixed up. Don't play with me. Listen, this is, I felt

Kirby enthusiasm. God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't play with me. He's, like, a lot of things. So good. My bad. No, no, no, he good. I was like, we're getting

very details. Yeah, yeah. I love comedy. No, I love comedy. Oh, what are right? You throwing me under the bus? Yeah, no, no. No, because what you have been able to

do, but let's finish this. And then we get back to that. Let's go to the last one. Oh, last one. Last one? This is my favorite. I'm not going to lead the witness. Loyalty or respect? You got to have both. They can't, they got to coexist together. It's the time we're supposed to say both.

You have to say both. You have to say both. You have to say both. You can't have one without the other. I believe you. You can't be loyal to somebody without respecting. Right, I believe that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I believe that. Yeah, this was full.

Boyle to the detriment. Yeah, it was, but, uh. You guys are like watch brothers? I just noticed that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They text each other and tell them, put the watch on. As soon as I walked in, he said, oh, you got a black shirt. What he said?

It's popular. That's the oyster peak. Yeah. It's very, it's very dope watch right there. Very dope watch. Man, the OP is great. The green dollars. So let's get it to watch it did you have on right now.

It's the sea dweller. It's a 50-year anniversary. It's a sea dweller. But that's not an oyster flex band, is it? No, no, I did. I did have the oyster flex band, but I just took it off because I was, it's my daily watch. Okay. So I just, this is the one I always wear.

Like, I just don't really wear the other watches. Not, not, not Submarina. Exactly. Okay. Yeah. Is that one, I put a different band on it because I was just beating the other one in the hell. So I just have it. It's the 50 year anniversary.

The one with the red riding on it in the middle. It's nice. It's nice. It's the bigger than something out. It's the valve on the side for diving. Which I'll never do ever. Exactly. I think it's like 10,000.

I'm not sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And is this a Rolex man? Is this a... No, no. It's not.

Okay. Yo, beautiful watch, man. Wear it in good health. Weird and good health. No, I love it. It's because I was beating the other one in the hell. So I just, I really don't wear the watches. Really?

I like to just... Yeah. And I got into, like, old... Vintage? Yeah, vintage. Oh, we just did an episode about Vintage. Did you? Yeah.

We got the Adam Menta and my boy, Lex. borrow. They both vintage guys. They're vintage car guys as well. But I'm not going that far. I just, no, I don't really go that far either. It's mostly like related to Arab world is what I'm into.

With the crests of whichever country that you can get it from. So the king would have like we would commission them from Rolex to make watches and he would give him to his officers or you know, whoever. And I'm really into that lately.

You know, well, my holy grail watches, I don't know if you know. I think I did tell you. Rainbow? I don't know which one. I got the rainbow. You already got the rainbow? Yeah, I got the rainbow. Pumpuritech.

Oh, okay, I was thinking about the Rolex rainbow. Oh, no, no, no, protect us a little bit. It's a big homie, so. Yeah, okay. I'd rather get the big homie. My bad. Did I go too far? No.

I mean, I'm just going to, I just want a phone call. Can I get one of them? What are we talking about? My holy grail is the UAE. Okay. UAE, AP, Oasis Perpetual calendar is turquoise face. It's not Tiffany, but it's only made 75 for UAE members. And my thing is, I keep asking watch collectors,

is this working for me because I know it's 440,000. It's a weight. But, like, is it working for me because is it just me that I love it? And I may maybe never be able to flip this in just in case anything happens? Or am I bugging? I should have took this off the market because it's only 75. Somebody offered you one, you said?

No, I've never been offered one. Okay. But now it's one that landed in the U.S. from the, you know, these watch chats that be happening, like, I got all these watches a do. I'm not as, I just realized I am nowhere near on your level. I just realize that why I collect them and why I like them, you're in a different league.

You're in a fucking NBA. He's with multiple championships. And I'm over here in double A, triple A. I was like, oh, my God, this guy's on chat groups watching, stalking watches. This is the whole next level of. And one just arrived in the U.S. And so many of my chat people, they know that I want this. So they start it off like, yo, I take the F.P's yon off of you.

And I'm like, ah. He's speaking in code, watch code. I don't know. I don't know that. Yeah. I don't speak. You hear me? I'm going to take you.

that FP. That's what I'm going to do. He's speaking Japanese to me at this point. I don't know what's happening. No, I'm not saying. I'm impressed. I'm like wildly impressed. He's definitely into it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is next level. So you said second season made you emotionally stressful. Yeah, it was emotionally stressful. Yeah. How is that so? Because me, as the outsider looking in, it's the inside of looking out, season one looked successful.

Season one seems to successful. It was successful. So how does that make you go into a stressful state going into season two? I mean, I don't know if you've looked at the news lately, but it's been, you know, the utter decimation that's happening in Gaza while being, you know, a Palestinian-created television show with a Palestinian leader of Palestinian family within the show. It's a lot to carry. there's a tremendous amount of weight to carry it's like what do you talk about what you're not talk about

and how do you not talk about how do you have to like yeah so there was like decisions that I made throughout the writing of the show specifically for season two that what I felt were like best to tell the story my dedication was to the family

my dedication was being authentic and grounded like do you talk okay I gotta start over this is this is a lot to like cover but for you're saying saying, so after the writing strike, we went back in the room October 1st, October 7th happens

and of course, you know, the whole world is up in arms. Is it after COVID or prized of COVID? No, no, he's saying right before October 7th and Israel will happen. Oh, okay, okay, I'm fine, okay. Yeah, sorry. So October 7 happens and then, like,

I'm writing a show about a Palestinian family and, you know, everyone wants you talk about the events, not talk about the events, should or shouldn't. So I had to really think about it. And so I did attempt to do so, like to write a world post-October 7th. That was a very like really unwise route because by the time you film the show and put out the show a whole entire year plus has passed. So you could be dating yourself. And then second of all is like if you do talk about that particular event, the whole show becomes about that event and then if you do it if you do you know go into it and talk about

October 70 you don't have any context of what was life like pre-October 7th for a Palestinian right you know so I just kept my focus on what I know and what have I experienced firsthand and that was was going to drive the ship was my own real life experience And that's what's going to inform it. Not only mine, but my mothers, my fathers, my aunts, my uncles, the community around that. Of course, my brother. So it just carried so much weight. And even before that happened, I lost my aunt, I lost my uncle, I lost my brother.

Not to the war. Yeah, I lost my brother right before the first season came out. And then before October 7th happened, I lost an aunt and an uncle. There was like a mom and another father to me. So it was just a tremendous amount of stress to carry, not really stress, I would say grief. It wasn't really like the stress part, it was the grief, managing the grief that's happening inside while feeling a, you know, a deep love for my people and humans as a whole and connecting us and trying to bring something together and making something that's so emotionally real and grounded that it resonates. And I feel like I did that. I feel like I accomplished a big purpose in my life for season two,

especially with that last episode. And I was just even very mindful. You talk about like hidden gems within the show. I think some of those things like flew over people's heads. Like there was a dream sequence that happens in episode 8 where there's peace throughout the land coming from my own dreams that come on the plane heading to Tel Aviv. and at some point

you see the melting of guns. You see the melting of the guns in this. You see the whole process and I turn into Bob Ross. It's like this really abstract dream that I'm having. And then Bob Ross says, isn't it fantastic? It's amazing what you can do when you change your mind. You can create all kinds of happy thoughts. Yeah, that's nice.

No more guns. No more wars. Isn't that fantastic? But I'm talking to people. through Bob Rawls It's the mechanism to say like, hey, it's amazing what you can do When you change your mind You know, like that's you can create a happy place

And yeah, there's all these like little things that I did throughout the season That were meaningful and every second was accounted for Genuinely every second was accounted for Is there anything you did after the season To be able to try to address those things you might have wanted to address? Yeah, so that's a special So Wild World comes out October 28th things when this episode comes out it's already be out right but that was the idea is that in the

special it's meant to address those things not only what i felt personally but also the things that are happening around me so it's not just like as a comedian yes you talk about the things you think but also you're you're you're a student and you're watching everyone around you and you're just taking notes right and you're seeing what people are talking about and once you mention those things on stage on a public platform like that through that art form you say the things that everybody thinks about but never says out loud

and that's what creates the vibe and the set you know so yeah but I did that I feel like I did that with Wild World completely and I lost my sister three months a month before I even filmed that and I was so stressed out and I was obsessed with this concept of time taking us

back to the watches and how they work but also as fundamentally time is undefeated time is fleeting time flies you can never go back in time and I just think about my sister, the loved ones us as human interactions like how we are one another and how I could bring

that together and that's why I wrote that bit about time literally the day before I started filming the special and it was like four pages and it would be like four pages and I cut it down as much as I could but that I memorized it the day I'm shooting

literally the day I'm shooting I'm in the green room I tell my manager's like almost I was like don't that anybody, like, I'm just going to be sitting here just memorizing what I wrote, and also you got to capture the emotionality of it and be real, direct, anything out of order. It's like, it's a big wordplay, you know,

associated with it as well. And so I've memorized that. I had a teleprompter. I told him to turn off the fucking teleprompter. I've never used the teleprompter. If a stand-up, it should be natural. So I turned that thing off. And I just like, fuck, and I got it. I ended up getting it. It was very, very,

I couldn't believe. I couldn't believe I did it actually. I couldn't believe I had wrote a whole bit the day before and I ended up and it's the closer. And it's the closer. It's the entire closer. Yeah. I can't wait for easy.

Was that how you see that bit on time? Was that a good recap? No, that was fire. I was skipping around like crazy. And it was two things. Once you see the time better, you got to see the time. I'm really, really and that's the closer. Yeah, it was two things.

It's like a dedication. One, we're on our way here. But this isn't all your interviews. And one of the interviews, you just said, man, I'm going to fuck this guy up when I see him. What? You think I'll do my research, and I'm going to send you everything. Okay, that's fine. Go ahead.

And today, you get the privilege. Okay. I'm watching two seconds. You watch a minute and ten seconds. it was the Netflix part I thought as soon as they see you it got it's okay it's not close to one like

and this this puts me in a weird position because why do you say that um one doesn't put siph in a weird position I don't know I'm gonna tell you why I'm gonna tell you why I put me in a weird position I'm gonna tell you why it puts me in a weird position

prior to this a long time ago I don't know when but I have a friend of mine his name is called ARAB Ken Arab what? Arab Ken

Arab King? Ken, yeah Okay If you know him, you know him But he has a bunch of us All on a group chat And I don't want to name these people But when I tell you

And I guess it's when the war starts to break out he was like I want all of y'all to kind of like say free Palestine right is the person I'm referencing also that you're referring to in this group chat okay no he was not on that group chat okay no he was not that I'd know of maybe I didn't have his number at the time so you know how you know only the numbers that you that you have say names are only the number you have right yeah yeah I had didn't understand that and I had kind of like got out of my own controversy so I didn't really understand what was going on. But I realized, you know, how serious A-Rapkin was. And I believe that was the last group chat that all of us ever had together. Oh, wow. It decimated the entire group chat.

Was he kind of like took a stand? And that's my man. Like, I love him. The stand was that all y'all better say, Free Palestine or... Basically, I don't think he was an alternative, but he was like, I need y'all help. right yeah yeah and a lot of us that's like you saying that's like you being from the Bronx

and a person describing you beef in Brooklyn it's just like even though it's fucking 12 minutes away it's a totally different perspective so there's a horrible analogy but okay I have to say it a lot of us

no no no no no no people are like this happen and you're correct I'm agreeing with you but what I'm trying to say I'm bringing down a simplistic way it's like when you're dealing with industry people like we're involved and attached to so many different things and we like it was like posted now

and most people were just like they just didn't know what to do fast forward we keep hearing the same thing keep hearing the same thing I jog every morning I see missing people posters posted on the wall it's crazy

I don't know what's going on, what's going on. You skipped a lot, though, but go ahead. Yeah, no, I, I, so what I'm saying. I can just definitely tell you it's very important to be very, very specific in these moments. Yes. So, things can be taken out of context. Yeah, beyond the October 7th, there's more. So, yeah, there's a lot of history in general.

So be, so one of the famous things is, you know, we get to see, you know, we get to go on social media. And a lot of people critique a person that. I'm pretty much cool with pretty much called my family pretty just call my friend um college now

something that's very real your special starts out with what god say it don't be scared my bad you're just repeating a joke

yeah but that's what you said right well first of all and then and then And then, you know, off top of me, you walk in and you say, you know, you look at Boris and you say, you know, Boris looks like me to a little bit. And Boris says, man, you look like me to a little bit, right? But then me, I kind of think you're in college. Yeah, of course. I mean, the same.

Yeah, exactly. So now I'm like a running joke in my life. I would like to be quiet and I would like to you to explain. Yeah. So you skipped over a lot, first of all. This is very, very important. These are like the normal as Palestinians

the things we experience happening around us. It's been happening a long time. This is a lot of history there. They've been fighting for thousands of years. Oh my God. Like this shit. Which is like fucking nausea. It's nobody's fault directly.

It's just like what the the regularly scheduled program is the same words over and over again. So that's what gets captured in the culture. Right. What happened after October 7th is just like this big veil's been lifted to show what to a mass, mass level

because it's been, it's happening for a long time. The occupation itself, what palsy endure, the fact that there's an apartheid wall, every single, every single, you know, a respected institution on earth that makes these

judgments are saying this is an apartheid if Palestinians can't walk on the street going there. Gaza's been getting bombed for like 19 years before this October 7th attack happened and yes it's a horrible thing.

Yes, all of that is obviously it's like a normal human reaction to say that is a terrible thing. That doesn't erase as well the 75 plus years of, you know, unfair treatment of Palestinians, apartheid, being occupied under not even going to live your life, all that. So that's been happening, right? So it all comes out to the surface, October 7th, and I'm using, you know, clearly like it's very, very important to note this and I don't want this to be cut out. Like, this requires like a really, you know, in-depth conversation. outside of alcohol respectively

to have it and to make sure we're clear so we're not fucking up because it's very very important and be like mindful of of the whole situation but also the Palestinians and the history and being precise as important. So just speaking on the culture of what's happened

since October 7th is that hey why aren't you speaking out? Why are you afraid to speak out? You should say something. That's its own thing. There's a lot of pressure to comes with that. Being who I am was a lot of pressure to happen with that. I feel like people are very impulsive sometimes and very angry and understandably so and how they're posting and going about it. It's also important to be mindful and it's really important, really difficult to be patient, even for a week or two, just to see how things unfold so you can truly articulate yourself because there is a responsibility with how you post and where you put out into the world that could be interpreted a certain way, looked at a certain way.

But when it's a complete decimation of a civilian population, when the entire area is gone, when I, you know, I always knew I was going to make it, but I never thought it was going to be under these circumstances where Seif has seen this. I'm holding, you know, meeting with kids that are just like lost limbs but still cheerful coming from Gaza. I'm holding a little kid that's three years old missing his leg. You can tell like the way he's turned. and I was like he lost his mother as well. There's people who've told me they've lost over 200 relatives. I met with someone the next day that I was like, what's wrong with him? I asked the question.

I saw him like had a real like this gaze in his eye. He's lost, right? And he's just like, oh, he's just lost 37 family members yesterday. In one night. And he's like, God, you know, just still keeping his faith in amen. Now, that being said, all these things are happening that I did a very, very, very, quick summation of that please forgive me if I miss something and I know I missed a lot but just to capture just how fucked up this thing is happening and you have the most famous figure in the

world that happens to be Palestinian which is DJ Khalid and everyone just sees he's completely silent and not only on top of that the people are starved don't have food don't have they don't have access to things and he's showing how much food he has how much it's it's not even like okay you're You're not going to say anything. Well, don't fucking be so grotesque with this because this is so insensitive. Everybody looks at a lot of Palestinian kids look up to you. How would you do this? Now, if your people are being decimated down the street, wouldn't you say something?

Wouldn't you acknowledge that existence? Can I be devil's advocate for? There's no devil's advocate. But what if he's not a politician? I don't want to be a fucking politician either. I don't want to be any of that. You're a human being. I don't want to be a fucking gross.

I'm not a politician. He should not be a politician. What fuck says anything about politics? It's a simple thing, Blake, this is a fucking. horrific. I am so torn up about this happening. It's like he's doing the polar opposite. Something. You have to

say something. And how you say it and when you say it is everything. You know? So it's just like what he could have gained as a real human, right now I see as a caricature. Like George Lopez saying, oh, Rapha Bosa fucking, this guy's a young

Mexican-American stand-up comedian that's like, you know, doing his thing. You should show love to me. You should know who he is. you should acknowledge them look at like at least know who they are you don't have to be like best right them but that's how you lift each other up and for you not to acknowledge that whole thing and then to go about yourself in that way makes it look really bad now that being said what me opening the show of fuck dj call is is not intended to be like for real like for real fuck you it's how the people feel right there's a reason why literally all over the planet when i do that

opening line, people was just like because I, that's how they actually feel right. They're like, they couldn't believe. They know your struggle like where they coming to see you? You're one of the, you're Palestinian, bro, your family comes from there, you do that, you it's just like it's

shocking. It's over, it's like beyond shocking. It's so people it's unforgivable now. That's how they feel and I'm just, as a commentator on a culture, you you say what's, what everybody's thinking about. And that's what

that is also too. And Syf, you introduced me to 2018, the guy is completely not there, you know? Like, as far as conversation, no, I don't even know if he's, I don't know who's the real cat. Like, I don't know. Does he really walk around like that?

I don't know enough. But are you supposed to connect one of them just because she probably is stealing? Because, like, I'm just, just just to be honest with you. I remember my wife is here, but she stepped outside. But I remember my wife used to introduce me to like her, her girlfriend's, the boyfriends.

like trying to hang out with them. It's like, he smokes weed. I'm like, I'm like, I'm going to fuck. It's not enough. It's way deeper. It's way deeper. Yeah, that's like saying. But that's like saying a black guy.

Like, like, just because he's black, I'm just, I'm not sure if I'm on. Yeah, but you have the black man, though, right? I got that nod. You got the black, you see a black man. I got that. You walk into a club or building. So you say you didn't see the past. When you see another area, we're like, ah, I don't know what's sad.

And Habib al-Haba. Some kind of acknowledge with brods. Fucking dope what you're doing. Like, yeah. in that world I just wanted to just be like, y'all, I'm proud of it's fucking dope. Have you accomplished in this world

and genre, like, people look up to you. And the fact that you don't even acknowledge that, it's crazy. By your math, so to speak, is that the top African-American stand-up comedian can't be friends with the best hip-hop artists and they overlap. They're both in the entertainment industry.

How would you not know each other? Kanye Dave Chappelle, where Dave, we're in the bear, all that shit. That's a fan. Kanye said his life is still. It's a community that you build that you can build off of the fact that you don't even acknowledge that is very, very hurtful. So, so. Not saying that he has a responsibility.

We fuck all that shit. He has to live his life. He has to make a living. He has to do those things. So this is very important, too. Let's put yourself in his position, right? Yeah, he is in his position. Okay, let's actually, let's put it in his position.

Why do you think he's not speaking out? I don't know. He can only say that. I don't know why. He's not, you know, everyone that's on the streets is like, oh, he's worried about his money. You know, that's what the word is between, like, I ask them. I don't assume what somebody else is going through. And if he is going through and, like, so I also at the end of the special, I opened the door.

I'm not, I'm not like saying, fuck you for real. I'm going to fuck you up. It's probably what I feel like happened when you read is me riffing on stage, trying to find the joke before I even. The early version of that. and I'm just working it out. That's, I told you. No, I'm saying, no, I'm saying, you're getting out the joke. I'm saying that, yeah, I'm working out the joke what it is because what I was noticing

is that there's a lot of things going on. That's why it's such a part of the special. It's not, it's my own firsthand experience. It's what the people are saying, why people feel, how they feel, not just Arabs. Right. I'm telling you, like, in Ireland and Dublin, it was like 100% white people, bro. Everybody, when I said that they understand it right away, I'm talking about everyone one that understands what's going on knows

that they don't like him for they can't believe it and they find it really over the top without even like mentioning, you know. He'll, I understand what he's doing. He'll communicate in different ways. Like, love is the only way, you know? I know he's trying, he's like trying to tell people like, love is only how we can persevere,

but love is not just enough to solve everything. You know, it's just not. Isn't me as an outsider? who was very close to Caled and now I'm close to Mo and I feel caught in a bad position I'm telling me... You're trying to be Switzerland, but you're not. I'm just telling you, if this Goon's going to happen with a story.

From what I see... From what I see, I don't know if he knows this or not. Who? Calut. Okay. I don't know if he knows this or not. But me, with this guy for the last year, those people that come see him

and they express it are very, very hurt about DJ Callan. You know what I'm saying? When he says that on stage, I can't speak for him, I can't speak for him. I'm watching as an outsider and I'm watching the audience and they're very, because they say it after the show. They say, you know him, right?

I go, yeah, I know him. Why does he say anything? I can't answer that. I don't know why. But they're very hurt. That's somebody from that culture or that, from that place, however you say it correctly. And I know more than anyone else.

You can say someone who's Palestinian. I know more than everyone else because I roll with him and I hear all his conversations with all these different people. We had a conversation with these doctors that were on the ground in Gaza. I had to leave the room where I started crying. And like I'm watching these people when they speak about Cala, they're very hurt. So I don't know how. But maybe let's let me be devil's advocate one more time. Maybe and I don't know I'm going to sound very naive right now, but just hear me out.

maybe he knows it, but he doesn't know it. Right. Is that a possibility? I'm just trying to be dealt with that. If that's what I say, because I'm not telling me. If that's genuinely the case, right. I don't even know what the fuck to make of that.

Like, it's such a insane thing to say that someone who's Palestinian doesn't understand, especially someone who clearly likes Palestinian food, he talks about it. I want that, where that Kluba is called my Kluber, by the way. And just like, we're, constantly referencing Arab food like that. And, you know, God bless his family, his mother. I've seen him boast with his mom.

God bless her. You know, I had nothing like that. It's so the real respect, and you have to maintain that. What I was saying is capturing what literally that entire universe is thinking. Okay, so could I do one more career? And the part about Slavish General, I'm building a bit. Somebody recorded that, put that on. They're trying to get bait.

So how about what is, now me, I'm just trying to think of it. Well, I'll do a celebrity boxing country. I'm trying to smoke a cigarette while I'm doing it. I'm trying to get a solution. I smoke a singer while I'm doing it. Do you think it's left for it to be a conversation with you and him? Of course. That's the whole point.

That's why at the end of the special, when I do the time bit, I'm not, he's not, I say he's not the one. This weed is fucking good. Great. He said, he's not the only one behind the times. There's many, many other ones. Right. Not going to mention names, Seinfeld. I believe what you said was, I don't.

care about Palestine. Well, Jerry, I care about everyone. And it's better to kill time than kill with your time. Festivus for the rest of us. I used to watch that show on much simpler times. Festivist, that's all. Festivist for the rest of us. I used to watch that show in much simpler times. I'm saying, like, yo, I used to... Fescivis is with George. Yeah, when George's father, the greatest of his own holiday. You think I don't know my shoes? That's the whole point. That's the whole point. I know everything you're out of just said. I'll tell you. I'll tell you the whole... I'll tell you one portion of the time bit.

Okay. So I say, I say the part before that, I say, I say, if you really care about one another, you should check in on each other from time to time.

My mother always says, if you love me, show me. And that's why I'm so frustrated with DJ Khalid. Okay, he's really, no, really, he's Palestinian,

he's one of us, and instead of being with the times, he's behind the times. And for this guy, it's always dinner time. I know, I know it's a fat on fat crime. I didn't want, want to say this. You know who put it on my heart? God did. But he's not the only one behind the

times. There's many, many other ones. Not going to name names, Seinfeld. I believe what you said was, I don't care about Palestine. Well, Jerry, I care about everyone. And it's better to kill time than kill with your time. Festivus for the rest of us. I used to watch that show on much simpler times. And what does it say about these times at the world trust Ms. Rachel more than New York times. Yes, yes, welcome. Welcome. This is real, real time with Mo Hammer. I hate to break it to you, folks, but we're all going to die. You could say, we're here for a limited time only, and time is of the essence. I could go on and on, but unfortunately, I'm almost out of time. Because it's prime time, and the clock's ticking. We're on borrowed time, and every second counts. We're down to the wire,

and in this life, there's no overtime. So always remember the one who transcends space in time. And next thing you know, there's no more time. We thought we were big time, but we're actually small time. And now we're pressed for time. It's a race against time. That's one of this like, yeah. It's a race against time. It's a race.

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You're going to be out already. You're going to be on that shit. But it's like that's not, but that's the thing. I left the door open because I'm saying like, yo, he's Palestinian, bro. Like, what's happening? Whatever it is. And what I was saying on tour,

I was like, no, it's very sad because if he feels like he's going to lose everything, when reality is you'll gain everything. And sometimes you have to lose everything to get everything. That's just how it is. And all the great. have done it. Muhammad Ali.

Muhammad Ali grades have done it. So for him, that's like, you know, that's what I'm saying. It's like, it's okay. Sometimes the fucking,

sometimes watches, it's not everything. You didn't have to be. That's what I'm saying. It's not, nobody's asking him to be that, but just not acknowledging that you're even Palestinian to humanize it

in such a beautiful way. And the fact that he makes all these relationships, and he has all these relationships, he has a big, big opportunity. and instead of like tapping into that and getting into that seems like I'm not saying it is

seems like you're all about the fucking money and that's what the concern I'm saying that's what it looks like I'm not I know that's your friend I'm not a lot of us are all about the money yeah yeah I mean like yeah I'm saying it's well it comes as a price and then you shouldn't be mad when somebody says okay that's what I'm saying and it's not even meant like for real like fuck you. Like, it does not like that.

It's like, hey, I know we're all thinking it's. Fuck DJ Gabbard. Like, that's what the whole thing is about. I know. You might want to take another drink. No, no, no, no, no, no, it's okay. I'll bring it to his house. That'd be hilarious if he just walks out right now.

It's actually him. He just takes off his mask. No. No, but the one thing I will say. You thought I was you, but I was you, but I'm not here. The one thing I will say is the only way, Mo. is I don't understand politics

so I don't like but I want to support it when I'm supposed to stop saying you don't support policy it's not about politics it's about people it's about human beings I don't even fuck about politics

I'm not even talking about politics I'm talking about the whoever's hearts are hardened you know and you've seen these images on regular basis where so many children so many men, women and children

that are just completely decimate, literally eviscerated by these bombs and technology. I mean, these doctors that they came to the show, they're doctors. They're not even Palestinian. They're from different backgrounds. They're talking about how, like, fucking drones are coming, and they're, like, making, like, sounds of a baby crying. And then somebody comes out to think that there's a baby out there, and then they get shot. What are you talking about?

And then the way the shots are is, like, it's four guns like this, and he shoots, you know, four bullets, so he hits all the vital organs. I would be like that, hits all the voidal organs. Like, that's nuts, you know. Like, how do you, I'm just trying to be a comedian and tell stories. And for some reason, I'm in this position, and God put me here in this scenario and this situation, and I'm just really trying to do the best I can. I mean, the guy who helped deliver my son is Jewish.

Like, he was hilarious. I didn't even realize that was going to happen. have no problem with Jewish people or anything like this at all. It's very, very sad to see, like, the inability to have a conversation. You know, that is so wild to me. If you can't even have logic

or see me as an equal, it's just, then, you know, we can't even be friends, you know? Me, I always, and I'm pretty much, I'm probably going to end it with this. But, uh,

Mike, you know, it's really quiet when you can hear the air conditioning it's not, no, no, no, no, you know why? You know why? I mean, it's a heavy thing, for real. To take the truth, it's a heavy thing. It's a heavy. I would rather discuss it with a person like you.

Like, I couldn't like... No, I would say discuss it with somebody much, much better than me. I'm just a comedian, you know? You should discuss it with somebody much, much better than me. I can... You know, it's people that have a very sophisticated

knowledge and understanding, you know? No, I'm just saying I'm around it so much because I've been with this guy for a long time and I hear him, talking to all these different people, and I try to tell them there's a lot of people on our side that don't know anything about this stuff. They don't even know where these places are. You know what I'm saying?

They don't even know where any other. They don't know what you're talking about. And, like, I try to tell them you can't get mad at these people that don't know the situation. You know what I'm saying? Oh, I'm not. No, not you. I'm just saying we talk to so many people about this. And I'm just like, you got to.

But how distracted can we all be at the same time? That's everybody's bad, too. No, but I do this joke on stage. Like, I'm talking about what's happening, and there's, like, a Mexican guy in the audience. It's like, what is he talking about what's happening in Palestine, bro? Something going on. Like, his algorithm is all twerking. Like, people think it's religious.

It's not even religious. There's not. There's plenty of Palestinian Christians that are dying as well. Well, there's so many, yeah. It's a crazy situation. Yeah. I just try to tell them, don't get mad at people if they don't know what's going on. Just try to get the message to him.

Because, yeah, like, some of his fans. he got like in America we was in the Middle East that was completely different but in America it would be like a lot of Arab, a lot of Palestinians or a lot of Muslims Let's live in there

That's living in America Yeah, no, at the shows At the shows But then there'll also be like Wild groups of Mexicans That just love the show Yeah, yeah And they're hearing all this stuff

And they're like, what's going on? They're just new to it, right? Yeah, they're just like enjoying the comedy show because they like Moca's like a Texas Palestinian Texas And it'll be like You know, and then when we were in Ireland, it's just like, the Irish people are like 100% like... Well, they can identify it.

So there's Irish people with Palestinian flags, and I'm like, this is... Yeah, because the British and Irish issue, they can identify that. Of course, of course. No, I didn't know that. No, I love Dublin. The entire tour has been spectacular. Like, for real, like, we, I don't know how many countries we hit up in Europe, but over a dozen, for sure, plus. And I don't know how many shows.

but it just, it's a, it's a extremely diverse crowd. The entire thing was like, I mean, Dublin was like, it was like a lot of places where it was just white people and I'd be walking out of the street and a Muslim person received me, were like, Mom, what are you doing here? I was like, I did a show, I just did a show, asshole.

I was just, you had a show. Like all the white people bought the tickets first. You know, like it was, it's a becoming, that's what I'm saying. It's like, it's becoming a much, much bigger thing where I've been talking about this stuff and now people are like going, oh, Oh, I get it.

And it's just in my stand-up, but I just like, you know. But he does a great job of balancing. So let me ask you. The show is still funny, bro. It's still a comedy show, even though he's talking about all this heavy stuff. And not only the heavy stuff, he's also talking about his family and having a baby and all that stuff. But it's still funny, which is amazing that he could do that. That's, like, really the biggest trick is, like, you have something that's incredibly dense.

And how do you make this into a thing? Like, that's, that's like the walking the tightrope thing. That's the thing where you look up at the standups that you love and you grew up watching, like, how are you going to do this now? You know, get yourself out of this thing. You know, like, that's part of the fun, though, too. It's agonizing. It wasn't really not fun.

The whole entire process was not fun. Seif saw me, he goes, you're fucking miserable. I'm miserable all the time. Am I lying? No, this year's been rough. This has been crazy rough. I had to get off, I think after I finished the special, to me. He was like, I see like this thing

off of you. I'm so happy to see it. He said I miss my friend. That shit fucking broke my heart. He was like, I missed my friend. I was like, shit, man. I don't even know who I am. Yeah. That's a good stage. It's a good stage. Good stage. Are we going to go to DJ Cald's house after this? Yes. Yes, we

are. That would be incredible. No, you know what? I love the fact you guys drink only the best alcohol and also the best water. You have to have both accompanied. I want to deal with Mountain Valley because this is my wife's favorite water. What makes a noise?

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just give me a cut bro just give me a little cut yeah that that was that was fucking awesome do you believe in that water shit or no

yes yeah that water shit you mean like like the entire makeup of your body yes you believe in that water

you believe in high reading no no when I think about do this I don't know why I always channel like Eddie Murphy

yeah you heard that don't get that Not a bad war, yeah. You said, like, don't get donkey. He's that. Why are you drinking water? Yeah, of course I believe in water.

You're crazy. Yeah, you're crazy, man. Of course I believe in water. Who the hell don't drink water? You got to have water. What did you do? I'm going to get so many comments about this, I feel. What's that?

Would you do trope in each other than two? I'm the dude playing a dude the sky's another dude. How do you feel about that as being you as a black man in America that he played that role? How do you feel about this? He killed it. He killed it. He killed it. He wasn't offended.

Yeah, yeah. It's hilarious. He did kill it. Yeah, he killed that. Robert Down in the Jr. No, Jack Black in that movie killed the shit. He's always the one's cocaine. I'll do whatever you want.

And he farted all days. He did the Nutty Professor farts over. What? Remember? You don't remember? What is his segue? Okay, like, so you don't remember. So you don't remember that?

I probably do that. You don't remember talking? And Trump Good Thunder, Jack Black played the guy He was called Mr. Forst or whatever But he was playing every single role In that movie, in that sketch. That was him making fun of the nerdy professor. Oh, I didn't know that.

I'm deep, man. Come on, man. I didn't know that. Your cat's up to me, man. Look, look, geography, politics, fuck that. I don't give a shit about the trade routes. and what is Asia, what is the Middle East, what is Africa, what is Europe, okay?

I'm going to fuck about to know that. But Festivist for the rest of us, you best believe I know what episode, what number, what season there was, okay? Watches, watch. Yo, son, that turquoise, the rainbow, the woman man, AP. So I'm on this group chat with the FPs, and I'm like, yo, I want that FB. It's like, yeah, an F. I don't want that FEP, but when they come on the market, just let me know what you think about this UAE. Watch, it's only 75 minutes. It's very important.

It's very, very important. Hummus. What the fuck is hummus? Do you like chocolate hummus? Pineapple hummus? The way you segue from one thing to be that fucking unprecedented, to be honest with you. That shit is hilarious, bro. Take the picture.

Can we FaceTime Calid right now? Let's do it. No. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Why not? They can edit it out if it doesn't work out?

No, I'll do it. He's going to be very mad at you. No, no. How about you just FaceTime? No, because you know what I want to see this. I want to say this. One, I know who you are. I know who you are as a person.

I know who you are as a person who loves your people. And I know we're playing around, but this is not a playing around situation. So I would like to approach you very serious. You know what I'm saying? Because, one, me knowing college on the other side, I just don't feel like I think he knows how to approach it or he knows how to go about it now as a person who's been in that situation who's probably in that situation right now with a whole other thing sometimes you don't just know how to like because there's a situation just address it sometimes you got to sit back and say oh fuck you know let me think about it now in

this situation i can't relate that to that right what i'm saying is overall i can relate to that like i i can relate to maybe not registering the drama when you caught the drama But I'm catching the same drama. Yeah. It might catch me. It caught you on Monday. It might catch me Tuesday night. Yeah.

Still catching me. Look at 24 hours. So that's just all I want to give him the benefit of doubt because I just, I'm one million percent don't think that he's the person that people are describing. Now, I'm not describing him as a terrible person. I never said this. I just like you keep, I feel like you keep going back to that same thing. I'm definitely, I don't think people, maybe.

I can't speak for other people, but I don't think he's a terrible person. person or a horrible human being or anything like that. I really don't believe that. I do think that, you know, that the world and the way it sees it and the commenting on it in the end, you know, you just for not being present at all in this situation, not even, you know, I wish everyone be like it kills me and all that. Whatever it is, is you're going to have to take some lumps for that. I think that's the whole thing.

I don't even want to keep talking about. Yeah, that's it. So, I mean, for us... Because when you go back to that and make the people watch the understand it, be like... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, you know what? We were talking about something else that was more fun.

It's about giving you your flowers, man. Like, you know, um... I can't tell you how much I thought I knew you just from your special. Both of the specials, I watched those back to back. I tried to, like, outdo you.

Like, when I'm mad. met you. I wanted to like, I wanted to be like, oh, you remember episode seven? Like, I wanted to do that type of shit to you. Like, because I'm, I'm like, no, I really appreciate that. It means a lot to me because I do, it feels very lonely out here sometimes. So it's very, very nice, always amazing to hear that. It feels lonely out there as far as what? No, I'm saying, like, just making a show like this felt very, like, it was a very unique thing that I'm sure. You have to know that connected with people. No, absolutely. No, no, no. The tour is where I'm talking about the pre.

Pre-making it. I got you. The pre, the during, the... It's like going out on a ledge, not knowing what's going to happen. Yeah, exactly. And then you watch it and you're like, oh, this is... I'm very proud of this. I can't wait for this to come out.

And then to see reactions on tour. You know how it is that you put out an album. Like, until you tour... I'm not a comedian, no more. No, but when you go on tour, you see the reaction from the crowd and you see how much the lyrics that are the numbers... Just made it clear to me today. I'm performing the same material.

Yes, exactly. You're like, no. Do a new material. Yeah, exactly. Oh, yeah, I can clearly separate. They clearly said, you're in, I'm in 1A, nor we go back to 4th. Yeah.

F. Listen, Mo, thank you so much. Thank you, bro. I really appreciate it, man. Seifah, thank you for pulling up. Thank you, man. Syph, I'm so happy you being, I love you, bro. I feel I'm here with my brothers, man, all in different worlds.

But we would give you your flowers, man, because what you're doing, how you're standing tall, and where you're at in life, it's not easy. that shit is not easy it's not uh somewhere everyone else is going to get in life and and as a person who's done this i was one of the first people to work with the neptunes on a high scale level not the first people to work with them period there's other people to work with them but i put them in my video i was one of the other first people who to work with Swiss beats. One of the other first people

to work reggaeton when everyone said, you're an idiot. Once you did do that. And I was also one of the first people to work with podcasts other than these guys right here. I'm talking about artists-wise. So what you being

the first Palestinian like comedian, like comedian, Like, you are the Mount Rushmore. The Mount Rushmore for your people, for your audience, starts with you. That's some fucking real heavy, it's that belt, you know, belts? They gave that to us. But your belts is around you all the fucking day. It's never going to stop.

It's never going to slow down. you are a person for your people you are a person that's representing your people and you are a person that your people put in the forefront and said this is the person we want for us to talk to talk to and I'm telling you that responsibility is very heavy

responsibility is very real and responsibility is something that we're going to support big shoes to fill you got big shoes to fill and I'm sorry that maybe you don't understand that you're a political comedian. Not. You're not, but

the fact that how you broke down everything that we didn't understand, it makes you that like D.L. Hugley is a political comedian, regardless if he wants to accept it or not. And I don't, I don't, because it's not, no, it's not. Politics is a wrong

word. It's not. It is, yes, it's the wrong word. You're a weirdist comedian. You're making us aware. Yeah. A thoughtful comedian is probably Yeah, thoughtful awareness, whatever. Because you're making us aware to things that we don't actually know. Well, it's very hard to respond to any of this.

It just makes me a little itchy. I was trying to big you up. I really, really appreciate you saying that. If I'm just too close to the elephant, you know, I can't see the elephant. I understand the significance and the importance of it. At the same time, like, I'm a comedian. I'm a filmmaker. I'm a director.

I'm thoughtful. I try to be thoughtful in my, in my, I stand up and what did you talk about. But at the end, you got to be funny. You got to know the art form. You got to love it. And you touch upon many, many subjects. So I do protest on this political comedy thing.

And the next one, I don't even know what I'll do as far as stand-up is concerned. But, you know, which direction is going to go. But this is, you know, the responsibility I feel like is just capturing the time. Just keep going to that. And that's what this special is about. But capture this moment in time. And I have zero desire, absolute minus. There's fucking minus desire to be known as a goddamn political comedian at all whatsoever.

I think by nature, I think by nature of who I am, it just makes it that way. Like, when I come on this podcast, nobody, look at it. Look at this whole crowd. Like, how much politics can they actually take in? Like, it gets very serious, very quickly on stuff. You know what? No, that's fine. I'm saying, I'm just telling you what my sharing with you, excuse me not telling, I'm sharing my experience of just trying to do stand-up and it always turns into this thing.

And I think that this special was to put that to better understand, like, you know. But, but, but let me, let me, let me big you up before we get up out of here. That's a special thing to teach people and to make them laugh at the same time. There's nothing like that. Yeah. Just so you know that. Like, like, uh, uh, uh, I don't watch first 48 because I don't laugh at first 48. Well, some of those situations are pretty funny.

I mean, they're not. They're horrible. but when you can entertain me and school me it's the best fucking thing in the world so that's what I think is your the best trait about you it's like

well that being said I'm gonna do dumb and dumber three I already signed the deal for it I'm gonna not just fucking I'm joking I was dumb and number four because they already got dummer number three I don't know I lost I mean I'm gonna say that there would be Dumber Dumber I just want to say, man,

thank you, man, for continue to do what you do, man. Thank you for having you, man. Thank you for coming, man. We're going to keep going, man. We're going to keep going, man. Yo, Cyper Sal. On the way to go.

Thank you, Sybil. Thank you for having me, bro. And that's another episode of drink charms, y'all. We'll see you next time. We will have Ms. Rachel teaching us geography. All right. Drink Champs is a Drink Champs LLC production, hosts and executive producers, N-O-R-E and DJ EFN.

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