Drink Champs - Episode 479 w/ Juvenile

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legendary, Juvenile! Juvie the Great sits down with the Champs for a deep dive into early-2000s rap and the legendary Cash Money Records era. From bounce-music roots to stadium-filling hits, Juvie recounts the hustle and creative explosion that turned a regional sound into worldwide influence. Juvenile doesn’t hold back, sharing candid stories of studio glory, business battles with rival labels, and the raw energy that fueled tracks that still resonate today. Juvie traces how the culture in New Orleans shaped their approach, how the competitive climate with No Limit Records pushed them, and how their records broke through the Billboard charts and into the mainstream. More than just a nostalgia trip, this conversation highlights the craft behind the hits, the realities of turning street-knowledge into music, and the enduring legacy Juvie carries.  If you’re a hip-hop head wanting to hear an unfiltered look at one of rap’s defining movements, this episode’s a must. Over 1 Billion Azzes Backed since the 99'-2000. 🏆 Make some noise for Juvenile!💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆   Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com   Follow: Drink Champs https://www.drinkchamps.com https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps   DJ EFN  https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions   N.O.R.E.  https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's a middle-tipa Crazy War. Yappy yawa. Make some math. Make some men. When I tell you, we started this show, we wanted to say to people, we wanted to give it to legends, people who deserve it, people who deserve their flowers. This man has been down. He has gave hip-hop so much.

Hits after hits, been a part of legendary groups, been a part of solo acts by itself. I feel like I met him on tour And I feel like he's still on tour right now Because he's goddamn day Definitely it is He's tall like motherfucking Hogan, Rick Play out of meas On him tall like a wrestler

Every time I see him, he's smiling And that let you know That a man been through a lot Because any man that can smile That's been through what you've been through That's a real man's man He makes hits after hits After hits, he's a legend

He's an icon Like I said He can arrive at Chabal Mitzvah he gets around everywhere and kill it he has a song that literally tears people in the demons

in a good way they tell her you you want to you auntie what happened to you and this song come on Auntie it's not the same you're like auntie we need to have a conversation

in case you don't know what we're talking about it's one to one only they're back of a motherfucker dude out Before we get into everything else, before we get into everything else, I want to give you your flowers on this one subject. Because of your video, huh?

Everyone went and tried to recreate. Like you had the most creative, quote unquote, hood video. Yeah, yes. There was. So that's, without, like, speaking about the budget, do you, do you know that? Because I know we've said it behind your back. I didn't know it until I really start seeing it on TV.

Everyone bitch yourself out. I was going to come out like that. But Mark, shout out to Mark Classfield, bro. That's where Mark was coming up, right? That was really a step-out statement, my video and Nelly video. Okay. The country ground, but that was really...

Okay, wow. Big joints. Yeah, yeah. Now, I heard that, and when y'all was doing the videos, the cameras was a little bit unsafe. Like they was trying to steal the cameras Was that true? Man, we was in the project

They camped out And it was kind of weird Because normally you know They get hotel rooms and stuff So about the production crew They camped out in the project So it was risky And then they stayed for three days

So I was like But they were showing so much love But nobody Nobody didn't actually steal nothing Thank God And everybody left safe But yeah it was kind of I was telling them man

Y'all are taking the chance When I'm real Like say nah it's all good Every time we cook, we're going to feed everybody around, and that's what they was doing. They were showing them love. So, all right. At this time, we had only her...

First of all, congratulations on the coming off the... I'm going to have a drink. I see you ordered water, but I'm going to have a drink. I haven't been drinking in a long time. I just had one before I came in here, so I'm having another one now. Okay. And what do you drink when you drink? I got...

That's what we was talking about earlier, about being entrepreneurs. Um, I got, I really drank my own calling Juby juice, right? No, I got a yak, too. It's called yak, too, straight up. Okay, it's called yak? It's called yak. It's my head, I hear the show.

And I'm sorry, that's why I'm going to sit in all care package, man. Because I came from Vegas to here, I didn't get a chance to go home. Yeah, so I wouldn't, I naturally would have bought y'all a bunch of gifts. Send it and we'll have it on the table. And they told me he was performing on the boat, too. Yeah, I did that yesterday. You take it out all the bags.

This is good. I'm going to get back to what you're talking about him. I'm taking all the back. I'm taking all the back. No, no. I'm going to be honest, right? Let me be honest. Like, there's rappers who can tour for the rest of their life.

And that's a blessing. Yeah, it is. And then certain rappers who can tour, there are certain rappers whose songs can tour for the rest of their life, too, right? Like, if you look at, like, certain groups, their song is bigger than them, right? Like, I don't want to name those. It's a few groups you know the songs.

You know the song, you don't know them. So they can walk right by you in a casino, you don't know. Right. You're one of those people that it matched both. Like, your stardom and your songs. Like, I don't know if you got some white people here, but I don't know if my boy misses here. But a white person would be like, as soon as they won't, they're like, oh, shit, that's you now. Like, you got a white audience that you didn't even try to get.

I can't forget about my Latinos either. I did a song. One of my songs were following me now. Don't forget that, too. So that really got me across that really to everybody, man. So it's always been love with all the races, man.

It's love and it's love back. Yeah, but here's this funny shit. I told you this story and I told this story many of times. I went, when you say Latino audience, this is funny. Because a lot of people don't know there's Puerto Rican in fucking New Orleans, man.

Everywhere. It's Puerto Rican fucking. So this is how I got put it on to y'all, I swear to God. No limit one fuck with nobody. Right? And I try to fuck with nobody. limit. I went to New Orleans.

I couldn't get a meet. I can't get him. And it was a Puerto Rican girl. She had fronts. She had a gold team with her mouth because at the W.O.T. I've never forget this shit. And I, because I've never seen a girl like a full-fledged fronts. Like, he's a permanent, bro. So I'm looking like, oh, shit, this is the South

shit. This is not the Eddie Gold caps. We call it a person Claybone. Yeah, we don't mean. This is the permanent shit. We got the caps. So and I said to the girl on the ball, I'm like, she's like, what you're doing out here? And I'm like, I'm here to see no limit. She was like, oh, that's where you're fucked up from the beginning.

I'm like, what? She said, you're supposed to be fucking cash money and jewelry in them. And I'm like, what? A girl put me, I told you this before, right? No, her girl had put me, this is Wahan. And he said she's Puerto Rico? She was Puerto Rico. But she sounded like, she sounds like a New Orleans, though, but she just, she looked

poorly. But I was like, she looked like them, though. I was like, oh, shit. It was like, yeah. No separation. And then that's when I got caught on. All right, so now let me break this down. Well, y'all independent prior to her?

Yeah. So was that beneficial? How was that? Because, like, when I went to New Orleans, like I said, y'all had that shit on lock, right? Yeah. I believe Texas. And I forget what other areas.

We had Mississippi. Okay. Georgia. But it had not got to the East Coast and had not really got... Yeah, it was just in our area. Okay, so how was that? How was that? Was that beneficial? Well, cash money, I got to give them credit. Before I got on

cash money, they already had a success with groups before me, so they had built up a fan base already. But when I came in, me and BG, you know, what we did together and, you know, and Wayne, we created this huge fan base. And this before

the group, before we became the Boy's group. This was just, we was just all really rapping on BG's album. Because BG was the first one. When I came in, he was the guy. Right. He was first out the gate. He was the first one out of the gate.

Like a couple albums before I even got one in. Right. So, um, and he had already, he had this big fan base. So it was kind of like easy to walk in, too, with them. But when they put us together, we just blew up a little bit and it got bigger. Right. You know what I'm saying? So what would have been one state wound up being five, six six states?

But your record was the one that ultimately helped get the deal Once I got Once I did my first album called Soldier Rag The song Soldier Rag itself blew up So it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't huh By itself? It wasn't how it was really a remake Kind of like the remake of Soldier Rags

Okay It was Soldier Rags that got us that Got us that deal Yeah Oh God let's make some noise for that got that So I'm gonna just tell you At one point It was like

Well let me correct that played the part in getting us that deal okay i'm gonna correct that because not just that album it was the big time was that dropped two albums right they had they had a lot to do with that too so it wasn't just me and i'm i'm gonna state this when we recorded those songs when we were in the studio we didn't know what songs was going to what album it's just that i was next up so they took the best songs and put on my album you all just recording and just it would go wherever exactly so we didn't know we didn't know what was going and which i liked it i really liked i kind of like that crazy times yeah

That way I get all the hits. I ain't going to lie to you. Listen, at one point, you had the death row run, you had the Rough Riders run, you had the Rockefeller run. But nothing seemed like the cash money run. How was that? And how old were you?

I think the fact that we was listening to them, because we was really like listening to all the, listening, when he had they run, we was big fans of them. Okay. And I think the fact that the South was kind of like untapped. We had other people doing anything, but it was just like we

it was so much, we had so much more to offer that people hadn't yet heard yet. And I think that made it easier for us to also. But he kicked down the doors for everybody down our own. That's the opposite. Yeah. Yeah. Why is you the only one from cash money that gave all of no limit of five? You're the only one.

What? Do you only one? We didn't see it there. I think what they caught. Because we were talking long before that we got off and all that. So I think that's what they cart. But now, we all show it. Because it looked like, hey, but you want the alcohol kick them, you know, the song's going to play.

Yeah, yeah. That's a rap, man. I see you smile on the whole time. Because, man, a lot of them, so a lot of them cast, man, you know, off-camera, and, you know, without the music playing, them, my partners, we grew up together, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and I see them all the time, so it ain't like that. And I still live in New Orleans.

Right, okay. So I see everybody all the time. Okay. And with that, look, that was such a great look for the city as a whole. Yeah, man, my city loving it. Do you think that it should have been in New Orleans? I said that. I've been said that because then we probably would have got a better fan reaction.

I don't think it was bad fan reaction. A lot of those fans that was there in the complex. It was a complex call. And it was in our age bracket. Like, I wanted the age bracket to be, you know, 35, 55. And that's why I still feel like we should do it again. I really feel like we should do it again. A rematch.

Yeah, rematch. I mean, we understand because we did, that's when we were the opposite last year. We did the Snoop and Dre. Oh, yeah, rem? No, I'm saying, accomplished. We saw all the people. A lot of people in New Orleans feel like they got cheated because they couldn't afford to go, you know, to Vegas, especially during that event because everything was skywalking, you know, and the hotels that went up.

Everything was, you know, was a little more complicated. But I think we were to our city. We need to do it at home. Yeah. facilitate that. Now, how, shit. And he's got to help. Yeah.

But how about Juvie? How about Juvie? Who would you battle on verses? Who would I battle on versus? Yeah, like the fans to do Tuesday. I never been one to stand there and say I want to battle this person because I'm, I like rap so much. I got, I got, hip hop is done so much for me and my family and my life.

I don't like the whole beefing with. Right. I'm never been. That ain't my thing. Right. And I've made my mistakes in the past. Like some of all of us have. But, you know, where I'm at right now in life.

I just like to rap about the things I'm at where I'm at in life, right? So, me, I'm not all beefed out like that. I'm not, you know? No, Versus ain't beeping, though, but Versus is like a celebration. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, there have been some versions. I got rid of Birdman and grabbed the mic now. Hey.

What did he say? What are he saying? I'm starting this shit. You know what's crazy about y'all? Listen, this is what's crazy about y'all. All of y'all know Birdman, right? So, like, I mean, I know Birdman, but I don't know what I'm like, y'all, obviously. All of y'all face had the same exact face.

All the y'all was like, oh, oh, shit. You smiled, you smile. Mabizi? He smiled the whole time. No, you smiled the whole time. I can tell that check was good. That's part of, man, when you were, when you were in a heated battle, it's like wrestling. When you were in a heated battle, man, it's like basketball and everything.

We could be cool and all that. But when that mic with that camera come on, dog, it's in place. Bird ain't having it, though, when it's going on, it's wall time. So I don't know. Sorry. Like, it's one time, man, you know what I'm saying? Let's draw the line. Let's go to the wall.

And I ain't married out. I ain't married him for that. One thing I love about him, he's going to be who he is, no matter what it is. No matter what the situation is. My dude going to be who he is. And I'm with him. Right. Right.

How do y'all compare that, you know, like, this versus. Did you, did y'all think that y'all had it as put together as cash money, or what do you think? I mean, man, you know, for his preparation, I'm going to always. always say this, man. We had, no, neither one of the teams had all their guns with them. So I don't think neither one of us was really preparated like we could. I mean, but who wants to, who wants to get up there and sing

10 songs apiece? You know, think about the songs I didn't sing. Think about the song they didn't sing. So it's a lot of, you know, I think we missed a lot. You know, it hurt me a lot not to see mystical and God bless the day, my dog Soldier Slim on that stage. Because it would have been weird for Soldier Slim

because he would have to play both sides. That's right. That's right. That's right. He was cool with you. That's a murder. Yeah, see murder, you know what I'm saying? It's like we're missing a whole lot of people. You know, Wayne wasn't there, you know what I'm saying? Even though they say he was in town, but I don't think he was even in town, you know, but without everybody being there, I feel like it still wasn't the same.

It was missing something. Yeah, it's definitely missing something. Do you think that them bringing out Snoop helped? Well, help. Any way you bring Snoop out. Yeah, that's nothing. That's a little. What you do?

Hell no, nigga. But when they're boss too about this, I got to get this, nigga, man. I don't want to put it out all the guns, I got to get to you, nigga. Yeah. But, you know, me and Silk, me and Silk, been talking shit to each other for the last month or so. Silk to the Shaka? Yeah, we've been looking at each other, the throat quiet as kept. Okay.

You know what I'm saying? We're in some cool shit. Yeah, we're in the studio, we cool with you, but you know when we get in front of that, you know, it's all over with, nigga. I'm telling the same thing. But you know, you already know what it's hitting for. I'm coming out shooting, Silk, I ain't playing. You know who was ill. I kind of knew when the crowd was like a little young

when Romeo came out and the crowd knew Romeo record I was like this is some young motherfuckers I was like holy shit you know what I'm trying to say like you know what I'm trying to say like you know what that's a younger generation right and all of these records from the nine nine to the two thousand god damn Jesus you know what I'm saying holy Jesus

what the craziest part about today man I wake up and I hear the bad news man I do young bleed I'm saying I don't know if it's true if it's facts not but young bleed he performed that the verses oh wow He had a situation with brain aneurysm of someone. Wow.

I don't know if it's true, if it's facts or not, but, you know, they say they ain't looking too great for my vote. Oh, God bless. Yeah. God bless. And he was up there representing. That's what I was saying, I wonder how to do that there. Oh, yeah, he was doing his thing. Yeah.

Kind of praise him. Do you think the city of New Orleans gets his props? Man, hell no. Really? Hell no. I feel like a lot of things have been taken from us. And we don't, they don't give us credit. You know, if you hear a clap going,

tap, top, top, top, top, tap. That's New Orleans out of the gate. We don't, we don't get no credit for it. There's a lot of artists that's taken from there. And don't say New Orleans or nothing in it, you know what I see? You know, they don't give us the props. I feel like we deserve. But I'm not mad at them either, though, because, I mean,

a lot of places, a lot of artists and stars have had things taken from them also back in the days. I mean, so it's the same thing. It's kind of like a reoccurring thing. but I'm telling you, man, ain't nothing like new of us. Our culture, the way we live, the food we eat, the music, the way we think,

the liquor we drink, the liquor we drink. The oxygen is different down there. I'm telling it. It's a different vibe. One of the best of. You saw the Spike Lee documentary? I saw parts of it. I didn't watch the whole thing straight.

Was it the Katrina one? Yeah, the Katrina one. It let me know, like, the heart of the city. As many times have I been there, as many times as the city embraced me, I didn't actually know that that's a part of, like, Like, you know, that's how y'all are. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, yeah, like, nothing can really bring down that city. Like, you know what I mean? Our, I think we're the true meaning of southern hospitality. Right. You know, you come down there, it's, it's rare to walk past a person and don't say nothing. All right. All right. It might turn into something else when you're not saying something.

Right, right, right, right. Down there, we like to show respect by saying, what's up, how you doing, how you people doing, and stuff like that. because it don't hurt you. It don't hurt you to be nice to a person for five minutes. You don't have to spend the night with them, feel me? So that's how we live down there. So what's the difference between the Calio and the Magnolia Projects? A couple of blocks, a few streets.

I got out of there. Now, Calio is P in them? Pee, P. We all, like, if you ask Pee, P, you're going to say, yeah, I'm from the Calio and I'm from the third wall. And we're going to all say the same thing. Me, I'm a little different because my brothers, I had my stepbrother stayed in the Calio,

my grandmother stayed in the Melfth, and I lived in the Magnolia, and my, Pop's mom lived in the Magnolia. So I'm really third wall all the way around it. But I come from the tent wall. Right. So you never hear me, I don't get too locked into that type of stuff.

Right. Because we always, you know, when I got an event, Calio, Magnolia, people come all over the city come through. Right. And it's the same thing for Pete. But back in the days, when we came out with our music,

they was trying to make this big separation. but if you come in that brain you see how close it is it's kind of impossible to have a subject Yeah like to not know people Family members in these sides Yeah you know what I'm saying It's kind of impossible bro Right

Well we wanted to let you know We got the What our show is about I mean he got it at the revolt But we got some No we got to give them his own man You know what I mean Face to face man

And man let you know how important you are To hip hop our culture You know what I'm saying Everything you do Everything you're doing We want to give you your flowers You got one before. We're going to get you another one, though. Oh, shit.

Yeah, yeah. It's all up, man. I appreciate that. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. How yeah. Yeah. So, we're going to do Quicktime and slime?

We got quick time? We got quick time? Oh, okay. Okay, cool. Want to explain him the rules or no? Yeah. We didn't play this the last time. We got to hear some of these new news.

I was listening to y'all play I was crazy we was on what's that shit called East dropping I'm making an old man Yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah yeah yeah

Yeah let's get We got room We got room for us man We just We just can't I kid you not We can't fuck with the NBA young Papa

I went on the show the other day on stage with NBA young boy And I realized his audience is different Wow They was calling you Papa

It was crickets No No No back your accent I mean Michael, you know, the parents. I love to get them.

But the boy, young boy, fan, bigs, listen, bro. God. You know, did you go see him? I've never seen it live, but I've seen it through the internet. It looks great. You have to go. Br, I never seen no shit like that. I never seen no shit like that.

Not even in my time when the high boys was popular. Really? Not even at the height of cash money? We was doing our thing. Maybe because we didn't have social media and shit like that to see it. because we couldn't see it, you know what I'm saying? That's what it is. We saw it, though.

But, man, that shit, every word, bro. Songs that I don't even, half of them I don't even know. None on the radio, neither. None on the radio. That's a difference, too. Yeah, that's a difference. Salute NBA young. That's why I put him on the hell.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. All right. We can't get me. Fucking right. Yeah, man. All right. All right.

This is our drinking game. We're going to give you two choices. let's go if you pick one we're not drinking all right but if you don't pick like you either say both or you don't want to pick we're drinking all of us are drinking all right let's do it well but this is for stories it's not you know we just want you to come up on anything can you put a little bit of the watermelon in there too yeah all right two park or soldier slim hmm oh oh yeah we got a drink already over here i used to call soldier slim i used to say he was the two pocket That's where I got to see, both.

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That's part of the MyCultura podcast network available on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Damn. Okay, I'm my soldier one. Any poxs? Do you ever meet Pock? Huh? Did you ever meet Pock? No, but I'm tight.

What is all these people, bro. I mean, every last one of them, really everybody. He used to come, this is me in the New Orleans, yeah, come kick it with me. BG or Little Wayne? Both, man. Come up, man. Let's get some shots. Come on.

Hold, I'm doing the shots. These sets up. These are those guys. That's a cocaine section over there. Yeah, yeah. Dominican. I feel like they'll be pulled all around. Bird man or slim.

Ah. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. I'm not even answering that Me neither Rough Riders or Rockefeller Rough Riders

Okay All right cool You ain't got the drink How was that tour I mean I know you've talked about it We've talked about it before But any highlights That's the most legendary hip-hop tour

I'll give it to you all I'll give it to y'all Your stories from that tour DMX is a beast That's all I had to say, bro Any crazy story that sticks out with DMX? DMX sent me a bottle of Henness every night

every night to my room and I had one moment where we got on the elevator and we had like four dogs Oh, X. Yeah.

And one of them had a bad thing going on with his stomach and he dumped. Wow. So we had to go all right up. Oh, shit. The dog shit in an elevator? Yeah, but he was smooth

when he picked the shit up quick as the motherfucker had the shit like that talking to me. I'm looking at it. He's like, yeah, man. You say, yeah, I'm the bad day. You tell me, you have to be all the way in the penthouse and shit. That's my dog, man.

I got a little dog like this. DMX game, and DMX turned my little dog to a pit bull. I told him I got a yawke. Oh, he was in a fucking room? No, DMX went and my dog's like, ah, I said, how the fuck he didn't even make that noise? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was a dog. Yeah, yeah, he was a dog. He was the dog whisperer.

But y'all didn't even understand some of the things I see him with the dog. Oh, hell, you got to tell him. Oh, yeah. All right. Mystical or C murder? Both, man. Damn. Hey, we take the shots.

Take the shots. Come on. We celebrate Jew now tonight, God damn it. What you got? What do you drink it? I drink brown. You drink round. You ain't never changed, ma'am.

But I'm not doing these full cups. I don't have to. Drink whatever you get in. Drink what you want. Oh, gosh. Yeah. We celebrate you. We've been waiting.

It's far out time after that. Currency or Stiles P? Who, Kerrison? Okay. Magnolia? Stiles P, but you're putting me in the position. Yeah, you're in that new all this shit. He would expect that.

And currency was cash money, too. Yeah. Yeah. Magnolia or the Calio? Magnolia. Okay. I like how you said that fast. Yeah.

He was like, you ain't... I won't hear the bullshit. You don't know what I can go through. Trust me. I know. I know. I know. See, thank you.

Trust me, I know. Feene or Mac? Mac. Okay. These guys will make this shit. You know why I say Mac, right? Because Mac was cash money. Mm.

Mm. Okay. Manny fresh? Okay. seat man he of course he's gonna say that I started with KLC though really yeah I was with three nine positive before I got to yeah oh

yeah those records are out out oh ask KEL KEL oh love to those records man damn all right we're at UG Care Ghetto boys

oh oh okay cheers Wu-Tang or N-W-A W-W-A N-W-A Analog or digital

Analog? I'm old-school, bro, come on now. Kevin Gates or Boosie? It's Boosie. Okay. Woo. Mia X.

Shana. You can't ask me nothing about Boots. I just did a, like, a five-same. songs. Yeah? Yeah, I just did like five songs with boosting. Yeah. Me X or Shana?

Me X. Me X killed it ever. She killed it. I love it. She killed it. You don't know how much I will. You don't know how much I will. She looked good, she spit good, everything.

While we was on stage, they told her she was killing it. Right. I never heard like, you killed. Nah, she killed it, man. Yeah, man. And we all knew she's always been dope, but I'm glad that it's showcased that. She got her flowers. She got her flowers.

She deserved it. Absolutely, man. Nause or kiss? Both. Okay. Cheez. That was a trick question. I got a mass appeal shirt on.

Mm-hmm. And we see you at Mass-A-Pill. We see you at the other YouTube pictures in the Mass-A-Bill place, too. That's a dope mass-appeal shirt. Bigger, Mass-A-Pill. That's all people. Jay-Z or Big Daddy came? that's so hard for me

damn both I'm in yeah bingo this is too much I'm on I used to think I was I was

I used to think I was uh my cane when I was young you cut your eye bro I cut your eye bra I cut my eyebrows my shit fucked up right now

yeah yeah you took two errors and I was like why you go the same they trick me with that I think Jay Z would say Big Daddy King.

That's what I'm saying. I love Kane. I think Jay Z is a Jay-Z. He probably would. No, I think Jay-Z would say Jay-Z. You're like, meet over everybody. We all know Big Daddy Kane is the predecessor of that. Of course.

We know that, but, like, you know, this generation, this day of time. I mean, we're not worried about generation. We're talking about what facts. Kane had the style. Like, Kane came with everything. Like, he can just come with the lap. And Kane had the speed was on, too, with Madonna. He had the Speedos on with Madonna.

That's not forget, no, was it Madonna, no, who was it with? Madonna. Madonna and he, yeah, yeah, he was in her book. I ain't know that part. I swear to God, I'm not participating in the Speedo. I thought about it the other day because I had on just my bike a show. I mean, I don't know about the Speedo part of this. No, no, I had him just on.

He came up with that part. I just know he's in her book. What are you talking about? That's the World Ride. Now, Google Speedos. The Speedos. We did it while he was on the show. We did it while he was on the show.

I think it was on the show. I don't think it was speedos. though, bro. It's Lafrey print, brother. Lepid print. Yeah, he looked like he's one to

get him in public. Yeah. I feel like you do get on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Come on.

We did it to him. We sure remember. I'm not. Yeah. Yeah. But the other day, I was, because I was about to go

outside and I thought about it, I said, they're going big daddy game me. I was like, yo, I got to put on shorts over these joints. You know what I?

And I said, I said, I said, Shuler, Schuller might let the foot go out. He can't fuss out. And then I'm gonna tell shoot him film me from the up here.

You can't push out. I'm showing all your fans. Yeah, yeah, so I got to chill out. I got to chill out. I got to chill out. How's what kind of Google do you have? Huh? Why are you going to send it to me?

Show it to me. Showing it in your phone. I don't want to speed no shit. I look crazy in my phone now. You're in your 50s. Hey, hey, this is no, no, no. That's not even the one. That is speed on.

No, he got speed on. No, he has no business looking at that. I don't see it. I don't want to see it, man I don't want to see it Let it go, man Let's let it go Let's let it go

I'm good on that one I'm gonna keep Because of your eye That's what I did That's what I did That's the only He's the man anyway He's the man

Big Daddy fucking cane I'm talking about Not the smooth operator That's smooth out of you Fuck's right I'm so smooth Yeah All right

All right All right Um Snooper Master P Mm Both they go together I think it's dopehouse

who came out for no limit with that history that they got you could tell the fact that he'd give him his flowers and he said that you know Pete taught me I respect that I respect that a lot

It says a lot man You know for me I'm sorry to interject and like I make it a little bit about me but for me when I was a Queens dude a lot of people from Queens at the time where I was around I don't want to say selfish people

but people were to their self when I started hanging out in the Bronx they started to show me like family orientated type of things and I feel like that's what it was with Snoop I feel like Snoop was a certain way in California but then when he went to New Orleans he got to learn

and you can tell like he was happy to be you could tell like he paid his own flight there you know what I'm saying he wanted to be there he was posting it he was posting it I saw when that I saw I saw Snoo post that shit. I said, here's going to post.

I was mad about the post. I was mad about to talk brother post it, man. Fuck that, nigga. That fucking flight don't need to make it that, you got shit to do, Snoop. Shouldn't you be shooting a movie, shit? Yeah, I mean, why are you worried about? Like, you got the Olympics,

nigga, you want everything, you know? I was mad about that shit, no, I got to fuck that, I love Snoop, but not on stage against me. No. Now, here's the million-dollar question. I know we still am. quick time.

Did you know Wayne wasn't coming and what you disappointed when you found out that he wasn't coming? I knew he wasn't coming and I was very disappointed. You knew from the beginning of some too. I knew, but the fans, I can't do that. All right, my deal was, if Wayne don't come, I'm not coming. That was your deal? That was my deal.

Paperworking off. Wow. But I said, like, it was too, you know, the fans don't deserve that. And then my man, shout out to Swiss Beach and Timulant, man. But my man Swiss Beach called me, man, and gave me a speech that I never forget. That's going to stick in my head for probably the rest of my life. Right. You know what I'm saying?

And shout out to my dude for, for putting, you know, making me aware everything. And, hey, I did it for the fans. I definitely did it for the fan. No, you can tell on stage, every time they show you, every time that camera flashes on you, you could tell you, you're there. Man, it was a, it was a love affair. But people don't know what I went through to just get my people together before the no left, you know, just X no limit out. Just to get my people together, you know, and just to see them.

You mean cash money as of your people, right? Yeah, not saying that I'm not saying that I ushered at all because Birdman really curated this whole thing to do that. Right. He really, it was on him to do that. It was his call. I ain't even sure if Bird got no money for that. Burr really just wanted to do that.

And people don't know that. They always throwing them under the bus. Right, right. But he really wanted to do this shit, you know what I'm saying? him and Pee, and they really wanted to do it. So they made the shit happen, because I was on that kick. So P. and Burry made the shit happen. That's fine.

Let's make some noise. Let's continue, please. And my thing was, man, it ain't going to be right without Wayne. And I know we got an advantage if we have Nick and Minaj and Drake and all in there. I felt like, you know, no mystical in that. That's an advantage. But I'll tell you this. You got to have Wayne there.

Nikki Minaz and Drake will all do respect to them. they looked at as like the later young money almost no cash money that's what I said you're fighting the battle that I was fighting

remember earlier I'm on I'm on your side I'm on your side and they told me no they told me the cash money against no limit

at that could only weigh Chiquis was on stage with us they had a lot okay they got a lot of people I mean

just getting interested I'm into this shit it's getting interested yeah let's go let's go wasn't Cali on on cash money? Mm-hmm. DJ Callet.

DJ Collet, that's fine. Yeah, yeah, he was. Oh, he should have been there. Let me go even for you. Yeah. Man, don't make me guitar. Bost them, right?

That's the first deal. I mean, after college. We could have did. It could have went, hey, wow. He ain't why. It could have went a whole other way. Right. You know, like, and I feel like if all the cash money artists would have been that,

the cash money roster is crazy. Right. And now, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, I think, I think so. That might have been cheating at a point, though. No, it's not cheating. That's not cheating. That's a crazy roster.

Snoop came later. True, true, true. Snoop was not on the roster. I'm playing. Not in the beginning. Not in the original sense. He's a big coming. Right, right, right, right.

Now, what I can say a disadvantage to them was, you know, no mystical, no C murder. Right. That's a big, yeah, that's a handicap. I ain't taking no shots to see murder because that's a big, a big L. but, boy, do y'all know how musical is all the state? Before he went in, he was on tour with me, like, bro,

Mr. Mr. Mr. think about the songs he could have sung. He got a ball ludicrous out with him. damn. Yeah. It could have win. It could have been. That's why I want to do it again. It could have been. That's why I want to do it again. Did you all rehearse? No. No. No. Manny and, Manny and, uh, KLC curated the whole show. That's fine. That's fine. That's true. Because I trust.

And truthfully, I don't know if they were surprised, but I was surprised on, I didn't even know. If you look at it, I ain't know what I was saying. You know, y'all was confused. Y'all was confused at first, who went first? I didn't even care. Truthfully, I ain't cared. And they had you, they cut the time short, it seemed like. They started telling y'all to do the one verse thing.

But then they did the whole, the whole drunk with Snoop and then, you know. Well, we did. I mean, when I got, when I did project check, I extended it out to. So they had their get their one back, right? So, like, people don't look at it like. They did have one song extended, but we did have one, too, that was extended. So we did the same thing, basically. It sounds like the next time y'all do this is going to be like a festival.

It's going to be a whole day. New Orleans really wanted, man. I'm telling you. Because if you bring it all the extra people in, that's going to be a crazy show. If everybody could push the eagles aside and don't make it about us and make it about the fans, I feel like New Orleans would be a prime. Yeah. I always feel like Queens to do something like that.

The fact is, y'all already got the advantage of us. Y'all already did the versus. That is, and Queens is just that. Y'all got, nah, y'all got. Keep talking, keep talking. Keep talking. We're with you. I know.

Yeah, yeah, we wish you. You did. Real frat. Let's go. I ain't know nothing about me, I didn't know nothing about that. You remember. You remember me and you in the city.

You on the tour bus. I believe Ceylon You're talking about I went to the project Yeah Yeah Yeah But not only that There was another time

But you know I went back You was like man you can't Because I wanted to weed That's right You should see my man mayor I don't remember Come on Come on that fucking weed

But that was the first time now Okay hold on You know what I'm gonna get back to that story Let's finish Let's finish quick time I'm get back to that story Yes

Come on I'm getting hype I'm getting hype I'm getting hype Yeah All right DMX or Biggie Both, man I'm a biggie fan like I want

Rick Ross or Trick Daddy Trick Daddy All right Two live crew or EPMD Two live crew Rock Kim or KRS 1 Rock him Dr. Dre or DJ Premier

Dr. Dre or DJ Premier? Dr. Dre You had to think about that for a second. For me and my dude, it's not, it don't happen. Sometimes it's the personal part, fairs in, yeah. All right.

Big punter, Big L. Big L. Shout out to Massapiel doing this Big L project. Yeah, man, yeah. And rest and peace of both, Big Punt and Big L. I love Bigger, Big El. Big L was one of the, fucking monster, monster, man.

Monster, man. Monster, too soon. Yeah, too soon. And then he was supposed to sign to Rockefeller with a big point two, big point two. man like monster to you know shout out to my body cloths yeah that's right that's right too soon man all right all right so greats slick rick or coogee rap

or coogee gonna kill me about for saying this but slick rig i can see you i don't know why you said right you and cool g rap on a track would be crazy for but i love slick rig in yeah no yeah yeah yeah so before see it's the errors you when you do that slick rick when i'm I'm thinking about child story and the first album. Children's story, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm thinking about that first album, that first album. Not, his own swag was crazy. Yeah.

He killed it, brother. This was the moment I feared. So I listen to the whole album, so I might say some shit you never heard about, yeah. No, I'm slick with me. Yeah, I was all slicker. Yeah. I love too. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't really would listen to that shit. You might get some shit you never. Yeah. I'm like, I'm out of this. I love that. I love that. I used to try to be slickerick, so when I see him now, they, I'm like.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that fucking, that's it, uh, uh, symphony, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, last one. The last one? The last one? Okay, last one, let me get back to the interview. Loyalty or respect?

Both. That's our, that's what I'm told. That's the right answer. We can't separate them, too. That's kind of, I think you're going to. You should get the same answer every time. What? No, people give us.

They give a stupid shit. And they have reasons. Well, both. That's right. We wouldn't want both. I think they go together. So let me, let me ask you, right? You're like, y'all.

I'm like it. Because as an artist, right, I know that you would put me anywhere. And at least I got one record. anywhere, right? It's going to work. You have a record that not only it works everywhere.

You turn people into different people. He's with the shit. You're talking about you back to the asses. You know I'm talking about family. You're talking about family. You're talking about family.

Listen, man, I've been to barbecues where I've been embarrassed. Like, wait a minute. Yeah, yeah, man. It's bad at this point in people's lives. Yeah, right out with their grandmas and aunties. I get a lot of grandma with our teeth.

And they're running that shit. I see family members. Look at their Ate's and their grandma say, man, I ain't nobody can throw that ass like that. She's a picture, dog. You ain't got to, she's throwing a ass now. Pull it, pull it up for the two up. This is where to go crazy.

You pull it up, break it up. Back that ass. That's up. I'm too about. Oh, you ain't got it because you need to bring your equipment. You wasn't on point? Oh, don't let him do you that. Nah, no, let him do you that. Nah, everybody will watch it, though. That's a person to joke. You can't play it to do it to the loud. You can't play it to your phone, your phone. Corrine, Karene, break up. I do it. Hey, yo, hey, Jay, Rousseman. I'm due.

Yeah, you know, I challenge Hussein Bolt. I just let you know. I mean, I think by the time you guys play this, we're going to be done with the other stuff. I challenge Hussein Boat, because, you know, just so you know. And we got footage that's not my first. time. I'm saying, do you think you that fast? No, not at all. I don't think that at all. Seven miles, I will smoke Hussein. Oh, oh, okay. Seven miles. Right now, right now, yeah, he got me the first 30 seconds. He got you. But in the distance, you'll fuck him up.

Yeah, I'm going. Okay. I'm going to get that. I'm going to bet what you're saying, but you steal my nitty. I'm going to have. I'm going to go with you saying, but you steal my nigga. I don't want to take this shit person. No, no, no, no. I'm going to get him in a shake. I'm taking you saying. Did you know that was Family Day in the Park when we did back to the videos? It feels like Family Day in the Park. I wish I would have been invited.

We picked the best day of the year to shoot that video, honestly. We did. There we go, babe. It's like a movie right now. Play it loud. Play it loud. We got to dive deep into the making of the song. Walkway was crazy, though.

Because I heard this is the third time you recorded it. What? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. The video, the video, no, no song. No, the actual song. Yeah, so me and Manny, me and Manny had recorded this song twice.

So what Manny kept doing was every time I changed the lyrics, he would change the beat. I'll change something. I'm like, damn, that shit don't sound like I'm rapping to that. You know what I'm talking about? I know you get that part. So I'm like, bro, so we get the Nashville and Universal City, I'm got to be turned there Monday. It's Friday night. It's our last shot at this motherfucker.

He said, man, I'm going to play you back that stuff and see, I know you're going to make some changes. Now, now he got the... Oh, that wasn't in the original versions. That went on none of the versions. So now this on me or now? You know the second version you heard or the third version? That's the third version.

And that needs that. So now you got music on, and if you know I had no music. It was just, boom, the whole while. And it wasn't so fast. It was slower. He was like, nah, he wasn't, he said, I had to speed it up. He wasn't, and in song right at that tempo, so he changed the tempo.

This is a mannie saying that. Yeah, Mandy. He knew I was going to change it. Right. Once I hear, he was like, I knew you're going to change it. So I'm in the business. The only thing I kept was back that ass up. That was the same.

Originally you had that in that. That was always like that. We didn't have to change that. But the verses, by me running out of time, you say, look, we got to do this song and like two more songs and we got to turn them in. I'm like, how much studio time we got tonight? He said, man, you got like, an hour. Yeah, I'm like, damn. So now I got to do three new verses to this beat.

Because the shit that I got on there don't match it at all. Yeah, you're scrapping those. I pick one word. That's how the yeah shit came about. Because I'm like, fuck it. I'm just going to just pick one fucking word, and I'm running with this bitch. That's how yeah it came in. Everything going to end with you at.

No matter what I say, every line going to end with that word. and manna came in that shit and that shit said sound like a poem but they'd be sound good though when I did it man that came back I said man I don't know he said but he said Jew

I ain't gonna lie the shit sound good just keep that yeah shit going on don't do nothing else because I was gonna change it he said keep that shit going bro and I kept it going through the whole song that's how it came about

wow and did you feel when you finally finished it did you feel this was a hit I did but I didn't know what was going to be a single. But did you say, man, he said it feels like a porn? No, he say a poem. A poem? A pole. Yeah, a porn. No, no fun.

I'm from New Orleans, bro. We say shit differently. I'm sitting here like, wait a minute. This nigga just said he said it's like a porn. But you were like, make sense. Makes sense. You didn't help. You didn't help me on no time.

But let me ask you something Because this is something that's real Like New Orleans and New York We have something very similar Our accents is just for our people Right? That's it. Like if you see it to someone else

To a New Orleans accent They'll be like, I know you from New Orleans. A New Yorker is very annoying to anybody else It's not from New Yorker. How do you navigate in the whole America I don't I can't

it's one of the things what it's impossible to do I can't people always miss me and I'd be like man what you said you said porn like you just thought I said porn he didn't understand

what the fuck you're saying but I'm not mad at you because I know where I'm from and I know how I was this song But somebody from New Orleans would have been like, he would have caught every last part of that shit. He said, you speak correct English. I'm a professor in New Orleans.

I didn't appreciate how you did put it on time. You made the whole thing out of that shit, man. We'll take a shot for that. We'll take a shot for that. Take a shot for that. Cheers, cheers. Nah, but real talk, man. We love our culture,

and we accept the fact that we are different and we talk different. And I think that's what makes us who we are. People love New Orleans because you can, It's the big easy, baby. You can come to this motherfucker. You know what I'm saying? It's not a history in the only real 24-hour city in America.

Don't let nobody lie to and tell you no different. And it's a bunch of reasons why. I need to hear this. All right. The main reason is our liquor stores don't close our gas. We sell alcohol at our gas stations. Damn. You can walk out the club.

And walk out on the street with it. With your drink. And going to another club. I'm going to let Miami. To feed yourself. No, no. Miami stopped doing that a long time ago. And we sell alcohol on Sunday.

We don't have a time. We say alcohol 24 hours a day. Vegas got a time? Nobody sell alcohol 24 hours a day. Who's making these laws up for you guys, man? We have what you call Napoleon laws. If you want to learn, really, learn of history. Yeah, go look it up.

But we're the only real 24 hours. They used to be a French colony. I'd be ready to argue with these motherfuckers. I'd be like, we are the only 24-hour city. This is one of the first cities that's really multicultural in the United States, besides New York, maybe. But really, like, with the French. back of the days and the Spaniards took it over. Oh, man, you don't want me to go into jinglet

feed in the real history. I teach you about America. We're one of the first cities in America. Yeah. So we've been in a lot of history. There's a lot of history. That's why the French court is because the French was out there fucking. It's a lot I can teach you about the most.

I mean, it's a lot more than that. I mean, the French father was built by the Italians. Yes. I'm telling you, multi-cultural a motherfucker, man. That's why the mafia being there heavy. I was a business move. It's a business move. Do we take a shot to that or no?

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or wherever you get your podcast. So my soldier's slim. man, my, my, Tupac. Mm-hmm. My brother, uh, like we, when we started, you know, when he did his first album and stuff, you know, I never forget me asking Ms. Linton to let him go with me to the studio to buy my dog T-house. I say, man, he really rapping.

She said, he really rapping. I said, you know, I was already like a little celebrity. Right. You know. So when you asked him out is really rapping. He's different with her, right? Right? Because she knew who I was and stuff like that already, right? And I'm a little bro from the hood that she come from, you know what I'm saying?

And I'm telling her son got it. Like, nah, he got it. He got to the point to where, yeah, but he got it to the point to where I knew he could make. Now, I had, I had, like, got my start in because I was writing songs for this cat named DJ Jimmy. They had the whole where they had thing going on down there. So I got them, like, bounce music. I had a song called Bounce for the Juvenile. That was my first record.

Oh, shit. was on his album, that put me in the game a little bit, right? Well, Slim, the first couple songs was, the whole camouflage thing is him. That's where it came from him. What year?

I'm bad with the years, man. I want to say early 90s, though, like 93, 94. Yeah, that makes sense. Like early 90s. You know what I'm saying? He had a song called Magnolia you soldier.

He said my name on it. I'm a soldier. I was a Magnolia Slim? That was the call it? His name was Magnolia. Slim, the guy would pee, then he changed the name of the soldier's slum. Okay, okay, my bad. I'm saying, but he was Madnor's Slim. So he's the one that brought

all that camouflage stuff to the no limit and all that. See, that's the part I get I get a little mixed up on. Because they was on the tank, the whole military shit. This long before the tank. The stuff I'm talking about is long before the tank. Like, Slim Ben, Magnolia Slim, don't get it confused. This whole camouflage shit

started from him home. From him, right. And no disrespect to pee and everything, but Piga tell you, I'm going to tell you the same exact shit I'm saying. Magnolia Slim started this whole camouflage shit. The first song, I'm on it. He shot me out for on it, and I'm the one paid for him to get the demo done.

I did it, you know what I'm saying? Wow. So, yeah, so that's why you see me rocking camouflage. I'm faithfully, and we just, this hour color, this is our color right here, fam. That's what we were. We will soldier box to bowls and camouflage rags and t-shirts. Long and far.

That's what we got along. That's what we wore. That's what we wore. That's what we wore. That's what we got to move on. But, yeah, continue. That's an interesting thing. But no disrespect to nobody else, but it's my hood shit, man.

It's this, this, this shit near into my heart. Now, like, when people get this shit misconstrued. Like, you know, like, anything else I take on the chin. But that one in particular, because of my little boy ain't here to talk to his shit. I'm going to talk his shit for him. Ain't no nigger take that from him. He started that shit. Right.

Ain't no nigger going to take that from him, ever. Yeah. That's why. That's why. What do you think about you being respected as a as a true MC? Do you feel like you get the due respect? Because I think you, one of the illest lyricists. I think he gets the respect.

I thought, I'm going to say now I do. I really do. But did you feel you got it back then? I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I remember a key word, my dog, man, Andre 3,000, when I think one of the greatest rapists.

Yeah, one of the great. You know, that niggas can't get over that shit. What? Yeah. You don't understand it, man. You don't understand it, man. Digger, let us have that, nigger. He don't understand that.

He don't understand that. He don't understand that. Yeah, you know what's saying? Nick, we want to say something, you know? No, you know, I'm going to say something. You know, I don't respect down here. I don't respect that. When somebody else comes in, you're like, you're like,

you know, blah, right, right. No, he's my brother. No, he's my throat. He can't do it. I jumped on this, this, nigga, album, nigger. That's up. Hold, let me get your flowers.

Let me get your flowers. Let me tell you something. All right, that was the part of the meeting that I didn't keep going. When a Puerto Rican girl told me, she was like, yo, you're wilding out. Public Cash money. Like, Juvie, that nigger.

I'm looking, I'm listening. It wasn't even hot. Would you remember the year there was? It was 197, 98. It had to be 97. 98. The actual thing was, yeah. The soldier rag hour.

He right. And I'm like, and then they played me juvie and I'm like, oh, that dude right there, whatever. And I want to big up, um, Birdman is Birdman testing me immediately.

It was like, you know, whatever number it was like, I want this number. I was like, oh shit. Yeah, let's get it. Went to the people, they did it. And then he looked at me and then you, me and you worked. Yeah.

But then I, I, and we, we, we connected. to me. Yeah, like, I was like, damn, yo, like, this is the same. That's why I was like, yo, I haven't drank in weeks, by the way, just so you know. Oh, wow. I'm drinking because of you. Because I'm like, this is actually a person that I consider a real friend.

A real person in the industry, never fronted on me, always kept it real with me. But let me break it down. So we did it. It was just me and you. And then on Melbourne Flint album, I was like, you know what? I don't want to use, I want to use the remix, right? So it was just me and you at first. And then Berg came to me and he asked me, he said,

can you put my son on the record? Yeah. And I did not know. It was a little way. You know what? We should always say, see, this is the crazy part about the Wayne part. Every time I got to ask the question, it was like, how you think rap going to be in the future?

And I used to always say, this is the future. Yeah, always said that. And they used to look at us like the little kid. I said, listen, bro, y'all don't even know. know what we're stopping them from doing it. Y'all don't even know what we're stopping it. Bro, if you can hear this shit that he really want to say, that we're saying, you can't

say that, bro. You can't say that, bro. You got these kids following you. You say that shit right there. We rule. You know what I'm saying? Wow. So Wayne, being monstrous, Ben, we both was practicing the art of not writing. Oh,

mentally? Yeah, we was both, we was practicing that. Like Biggie, like Biggie. We was all on that same thing. kick. I'm on that kick. No. We've been on that kick, but I'm telling me he was on the mastering and shit. He just wanted to be better than everybody who did it.

And he did. I was like, I was like, that's wild. In the studio, Juvie and Birdman told me, listen, put this kid on the record, Little Wing. And you didn't know who Little Wing was at the time. No. I don't even know who he was. You didn't know who Drewie was? I only knew who he was. I said, I only knew who he was. I was on fire

at the moment. I was on fire at the moment. Because he was like the lead. Well, I mean, I The thing is that you came to Miami, we was dealing with each other already. He came excited. He's like, yo, I'm the only one that got trashed money on the record.

I remember that. Listen, listen. I know Jay Z gets the props because, you know why? He dropped it first. I worked with you first. He was the first one. You were the first one.

Listen, but Jay dropped it first. No, no, Jay, first of all, shout out to Jay. We didn't even ask Jay to get on the record. He just, yeah. He just, fuck.

I was a lot. He was a Brooklyn dude. It was like a mix thing. I was forming a relationship. I was doing watch shit. No, I remember you. Hyde. I was like, I was fucking with them, niggins.

I was like, yo, watch when y'all niggas is here, can't get money. Like, I went on Angie Martinez. I was like, what you want to be? Huh. And they're like, they're like, what are you talking about? Yeah, hold on that shit already. And in Miami, y'all were killing us. And when he came down here, he was like, yo, I got a cat.

This is my homegirls instead of an interview one other day. That's my folks, too. I kept going on the radio and I kept saying, huh, and she kept saying she was like, yo, Norrie, are you, do you have Tourette's? Like, because I was like, but you want to be, huh? Like, you know, no, no, no, no.

Because I couldn't understand how much I was blown away. Not terrestrial. I'm just like, look it up. By the way, it's documented. You can actually look this up somewhere. That she said you had Tourette? Yeah, I believe so.

Yes. And then, I still looked at crazy. I still looked at crazy. Then two weeks later, Hard drops, and it's number one in New York. Yeah. Hove is already on point. I don't know.

I don't want to claim no shit. I don't want no beef. Envy, bro. DJ Envy did it? Indy gave it to Ho, and I think... Indy was the one broke the wrecked. To me, Envy, like, nobody... DJ Envy?

Let's make some noise for Queens again. We were the two young niggas, and we bumped heads, and Invi was already, and he knew it. The young cats was on it. Right. The younger cat, that was like his shit. That was his trigger song for his parties and shit. You know what I'm saying? The envy was on it.

He was like telling, he was telling Flex like, listen, bro. He's the hottest wreck. I'm telling him. Yeah. I'm playing this shit. Telling you. And that's how Flex got on. Then Flex started saying, I see you cast, why?

I see you, niggas. I see y'all niggas. But we was already, like, where's what we told him? Like, hey, bro, you don't even understand who we are, right? Like, just go look us up. I was social media was popping in those days like it is now

because then you would see the craze that we had but we couldn't do nothing. No, I've seen that. We couldn't go nowhere. We couldn't do nothing. I lived through it. So, all right,

so one time I come to your tour bus. I believe. 50 cent, Tony Yale. I'm leaving. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 50 cent Tony Yale is coming on to a bus.

I'll save what's up to them. I just did a record with 50. Yeah. But you, I was like, how the fuck do you know about 50? Okay. Ah, crazy, right? So, Shimoni XL, and my guy, Woo Kid, who kid was my DJ?

Mm-hmm. You got a lot of DJ? Yo, Joe, Joe, Joe, I'm give you a Queens chain, man. Yeah. You've been naming a lot of Queen shit, man. So who kid was my dude, was my guy? He was doing the mixtapes and shit, and he was fucking with him.

Mm-hmm. real hard. And he was like, man, I fuck with 50, niggas da-da-da-da-da-da. He said, man, I was like, you're talking about the nigga

about rob and shit. Oh, yeah. How to rob. He said, nah. Say, now you got a meeting, buddy. It wasn't on that kick. It was on some comedy shit,

but niggas took the shit that wrong way. Right. I was like, so I meet 50. I'm saying through Shaman X-L. And I started listening to 50 music.

And this one, the heat is going on. Nobody ain't really fucking with him. And I got the tour bus with the studio on it. You remember that, right? Yep. I'm like one of the first motherfuckers in the game.

I need my props for that, too, because I'm on the first. I ain't going to long. I don't need that. Yeah. I don't want to. So a lot of me. Studio on your shit. Yeah.

So a lot of niggas was, was like, damn, man, a Jewv got a studio bus. So I told a nigga, uh, shot, I said, bring him over here, bro. So he showed up with, with, with, uh, Lloyd Banks and, uh. Tony Ayo. Tony Ayo. Tony Ayo. And we in that bitch just instantly, we click, click, right. So we start doing mixtapations together, doing music together.

And I tell, I tell, Sean, like, bro, I got a good relationship with M&M. I'm like, I heard you talking about this. Yeah, you're like, man, this shit, this nigga doing works great with, with Eminem doing. Eminem got his own thing popping now with his labeling shit. I'm like, let's go to the video shoot. Because I was up there in New York to go, he invited me to the video shoot for the War of Worlds with D12. So I gets up there and shit. I say, bro, I'm going to bring you over there,

but you got to talk for yourself. Wait, you're telling that to Shah? Wait a minute. But who you're telling that to? Shaw, 50. Shai Money, Excel. Okay, okay.

You're saying to Shaw Money XL, he has to talk for herself? I say, you got to talk for yourself. I'm going to bring you, I'm going to get you in front of him, but you got to talk for yourself because I don't want the shit to get weird. Right.

I'm saying. But M. already was on 50. Right. As soon as he said, he was like, he was on him. I was like, damn, so. Fuck, I ain't, it went another way. And he was like, yeah, he gave him the number, they swap numbers and shit. And after that, the shit happened.

That's why when 50 wrote his book, he gave me my props. You know what I'm saying? Oh, he gave you your part. He gave me problems. I always tell people about that part. Like, he gave me props. When 50, see me, he always showed me love, bro. I ain't going to lie.

We got to make some noise for that. Yeah. Didn't you almost, wasn't you almost doing a G-Bad deal? I didn't know nothing from it. I wanted to see a dude to get on. I feel like he was, you know what I'm saying, doing his music thing? And he was showing me and my people love, you know what I'm saying? Bringing us all around New York and shit, showing us love, I want to show love back.

But wasn't there a situation where you were going to do a G-unit deal as well, or no? No, I was never known. No, no. It was just showing how close you guys were just because y'all were working a lot. When 50 went on his first two, I was out there with him. I was going, like, showing them in the ropes, I was introducing them to my people across-country and shit. I didn't go everywhere with him, but when he started on the east coast going down to the south and shit, I introduced him to a lot of people. How did you an M connect?

Your book being one of them. But I'm about to ask because I wanted to ask that. But hold on, I want to go back with the M. Like, how did you and M connect to even happen? Well, him since when, when cash money popped off, when we first popped off, M had like, always showed me love by huh. He always like, tell me like, yeah, bro, that's like, always, every time he saw me anyway, he showed me love.

Because you remember, they was the big dogs when we came in a, they was like, they were from cats. So when we came in the game, you know, you would think somebody like that would act weird towards somebody knew, but he didn't. He really, like, put his arm out of my neck and was like, telling me, like, now, man, what you doing is good, encourage me on what I was doing. Em's always a- And Detroit regionally, they like everything.

Yeah, but M was always a good dude to me, but I ain't never, really, honestly, bro, in the music industry, I don't have too many bad rumors with other artists. Nobody ain't ever, because I'll be real with it. Cast on, like you, like, you know what I, man. When you meet me and you see how I'm rocking and how I'm, roll it's going to be hard for you to not fuck them, you know what I'm saying? You're going to, unless you want to be a thick-ass nigger.

You'll fake-ass niggas, then I understand it. But if you straight down and there, I mean, you fuck me, you don't understand you. I'm telling you. I'm good. Which leads me to my question, right? I believe I see you on Vlad TV, and Vlad asked you because that's one of the people that I did meet

on the bus with you was, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I believe, you was like, you was, man, Vlad, don't ask me no shit like that. Yeah. And so I don't understand. What happened when you were involved? When you do something, when you do the shit he did, some bitch-ass shit. Okay.

And somebody say some fake-ass shit about somebody that you really love. And you know it's fake and you don't come up. All right. If somebody you got love for it's your friend. And that's your nigger. He comes back and tell you, man, this nigger said all this fake-ass shit about you. How are you going to feel about him? Oh, so what you did when he said.

Yeah. Why are you saying that to you? Yeah. Why you ain't coming to my defense, nigga? That's what that is. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

I'm saying something about my... Because y'all were cool, right? You was the one who brought him to New York, right? Something about my wife, and you don't come out in my defense and say it with you because you know this shit fucked up and you know some fake shit. You don't come out and knock it down, nigga. You're a fake-ass nigga to me. Oh, wow.

And ain't nothing you can ever say to me, nigg. I don't play that game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't play that game. Yeah. Because that's what I first met him was through you. And then when you get with 50, the first opportunity you get with the man to have a first some conversation with him.

You say, Juvie tried trying to take your artist from me. I'm trying to take Lord Banks from me. That's what, that's a picture you painted. Damn. So, you know, that's some snake shit to me.

Like, man, for what? I ain't even position to take a nigga artist. As I fake that look, like, I ain't even a position to take this nigga artist, well, you want to, you want to be a lot. In the very, very beginning. That's what happened.

Okay. That's what really happened. You know what I'm saying? And do learn the truth about that shit came back and like, man, my bad, bro. I ain't, what this nigga was doing? I found out who this nigga really is. And, you know, I don't cut my tongue on shit.

I'll tell you the facts. You know what I'm saying? Let's talk about the hat real quick. What is that the three? That's the third war. That's where I'm from. God damn. What's in the back?

Let's in the back. Let me just check. Yeah. I look like in New Orleans Who made that? Do you want to shout out to this? Shout out to my guy, man, Hatchamoney. Hatchamony.

Hattramoney. I'm going to price down, bro, because they'd be charging them. Okay. Hachimony. I'm going to put you on that big stage. You got to show me some world. Come on, Hatchamony. Come on, Hatchamony.

Shout out to my wife, because my wife got a person. But this is somebody from New Orleans, right? Uh-huh. Somebody from New Orleans. You live in Atlanta, got his own company. Shout out to Hatchamony. Hashimony. He makes all these crazy hats out. He got to this job. Yeah. Yeah.

He's trying to get me fucked up. He's trying. I'm celebrating Julie because you know why? The world is better when juveniles out. It is, though. It is, though. I ain't going to lie. Looking at you on verses and seeing that

smile and seeing you walking through the stage, you felt so comfortable. It made me comfortable. Yeah, I was looking And I was like, damn, I know this nigga, this nigga. And that's, that, that, that nigga behind him is, there's a murderer. Huh? Jesus.

Yeah, I mean, it's kind of, I look at this stage, it was kind of a lot of foul niggins up there. I'm saying hypothetically. We heard, baby. I know, I know everybody. I don't relax, buddy. I know, I know. That side, that's, I was like, yeah, I know who he is.

Yeah. He don't belong. They're going to show up, though. You can't, you can't deny him. I mean, I mean, Who's the city, they ain't play a big part in us being a... That's right. Yeah, so...

What's my man named from No Limit? When he took his shirt off, I was like, shit got... Bios. Yeah, nah. But he's a real deal, man. Yeah, I know. I know. Any nigga over 50 taking his shirt off with that confidence.

Nah, but he's a part of that movement, though, man. He's from bowed, bawdy, bawdy. Bouty, bawdy. Yeah. She, Biles are semi-movist, so he ain't the movies and everything. Yeah, he's like, I'll be sure at one point. That's how you know. Like, he didn't know what was going on.

He didn't know what was going on. No, he knew what was going on. He took his shit off. He had the tank. He was like, yeah, look at the tank. I was like, oh, look at him. Like, that was real. That was real.

New Orleans niggas. Y'all things is crazy, man. That's just, that's just, let's try to get me fucked up, you know, no, no, no. You made the shit. You make the shit out of the drink. No, no, no, but fuck that. I'm caught off in your head.

You're making them shit to drink to, man. He's just, hey, let's drink to this. No, no. He hasn't been doing that lately, but he wants to have fun right now. You know why? No, no, because you know why New Orleans has held me down? And I've never had the footage. I've never had, like...

Thank God. No, no, because back then... We don't need that footage, dog. You're right. We don't want, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. They show me so much love, and, like, it's not that much documented. You know what I'm saying? Saloo.

He did pray. I'm telling you, he praised. Y'all, when y'all did the record, he came to Miami, you mix some of the records down here, we connected, and he was like, yo, I got with cash money. He was so excited about it. Let me tell you something. God bless me.

One more time. I'm going to say it more time. Because Hove might text me and it's uncomfortable. I was the one raising cash money first. Me, one million percent. That's why to this day, Birdman, say, hey, nigger. You don't got no charge for me. Just get the artist yourself.

So if I get Nicky I'm good Okay If I find Drake I'm good I just got to find myself Which is like

That's the What's my bar Hey man What I did what I can do for you Man He just said One less obstacle You got to accept

What the fuck I can do for you So let me tell you how Like I'm cash money What is that shit called Like I'm like Honorary Cash So I was the first thing I worked with Juvie.

Boom. And I was like, you know what? I kept going to New Orleans. I was like, I want the whole crew. Let's put the whole crew. Let's do it. And that's when he presented me little Wayne. He was like, yo.

Because I knew what BG was now. You didn't know who Wayne was. You did get the Wayne crazy. I didn't get the Wayne. I didn't get the way. Oh, oh, I don't say that. I'm a, what the fuck? He's not, he not telling the truth.

I said to let him. I really don't know what I'm telling you. You remember that? I remember. He really, he was only interested in me. That's right. He didn't want to fuck with nobody else.

He's like, man, he's true. He's like, he's like, history right here. Tell me, man came to me and said,

I said, I said, I want to fuck with the crew after. And he said, but fuck with him first. Yeah. And he looked at Wayne. And I was like, fuck.

Because, you know, he's a little, the bandana was very big. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm I'm telling you, man, that's that nigger, dog, you're right.

I'm telling him, right, man. The way you said the story, like, said it that he was still running ahead of the seven, y'all was holding him back. I'm telling him. I'm telling him, you're trying to look out for you. You're telling you facts. Yep.

We'd have created me. Y'all saw the future already. No, not just that, but in the studio and the studio, me and Wayne, we was doing a lot of shit at the time because B.G. and Turk was in a little trouble. I was in and out. So they couldn't, they couldn't do as much as we could do in the studio.

Not saying that they weren't great in the studio. Right, right. But at the time, they was in and out that motherfucker, so they weren't available. So we was the two, and that's what Birdman was trying to tell him. Yeah. I was like, bro, listen to what he said.

I was confused. But I listened. And I said, fuck it. And I went out. And how old was Wayne around that time, you think? How old was he? 17. Yeah, about 17.

17. So you just saw him like, is a jit? Like, this little. You know what? But I was just like, you know what? I just listen. I felt like God was bringing me to New Orleans. I know that sounds crazy.

And realized his mouth distance from the microphone, been greatness ever since. Yes. Yes. I got to admit that. I can remember him. I can literally remember him, meaning either too close or too far away.

Then he started realizing for this kind of song, I'm going to be right here, for this type of song, and it became natural. And then he started like clowning because he started realizing if I'm saying, If I get right here on these bitch, I'm going to sound like this.

But if I'm right here, I'm a song like that. I don't even care what the engineer doing that. I'm going to make my shit sound different. That's what I was on. I was on, I don't care of the engineers. The way I'm going to say it and the way I'm going to sound, don't matter what they do, they can't change it. I mean, they can't change it, bro.

And I'm going to rap on the after dots. Never going to be on the beat. So you can't be chopping me. Somebody gets me. You know how right now, how they can chop. hookout and shit. I never saw it that way. Because I would be behind.

But you know what he's saying is it? On purpose. On purpose so they can't fuck with his rhyme. Yeah, you can't touch nothing. I love that. I knew that. I knew that. I could hear it.

I can hear you did that. You know, I rap, everybody in me, I was off beat. I got everything on beat on purpose. You can't duplicate that shit at all. Never. That's my what? What? You can't duplicate that at all.

Never. That's genius. That's genius. That at all. You could, you could remake it. You can't duplicate it. That makes some sense That makes a lot of sense

Taking a shot Take a shot Yeah, I'm getting you I'm flogged up Go on Go on Shut up He can't hold his water

In the middle damn show I got I killed one of the drink champ Yeah Yeah Now y'all got to give it a Shout out to two Yeah

Yeah But um I want to I know this is a cliche type of question but I would like to ask you do y'all realize how much I changed hip hop?

That's one of the hardest questions to answer because that's something only a fan can answer but I'm gonna say this but our fan is asking you right now in this time and day I realize a little bit because when I see cats

like take little things on my lyrics and put them in these songs and stuff like that everybody remakes your records a little baby future. I mean, but they don't remix the whole songs, but it'd be something in the song. It's something that indicates that you

know they got it from you. I'd like, damn. When he said, don't be running from me, I got birds and a hundred. Whatever he'd say on that. That float, that's my shit, man. That's back that ass up. That's back that. That's

back that. Some of these things these cats be doing sound like my shit and I love it. Keep on doing it. I ain't going to be mad at you. I ain't put you on a question. Yeah, I feel. God. In the heat of battle, your squad relies on you. Don't let them down.

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in the beginning not knowing that part I think that's what every last one of us regret right like I think that's and that's being honest as honest as I could be

just not understanding the business side or knowing who to talk to or what people that I need to put in those places to understand you know what I mean

like what I'm getting or what I'm worth know what my worth is I ain't learned that shit till later brother a lot of artists still have yet to know what that is right

yeah no So that was my biggest. That was the animal in the room for me, man. It really was. Okay. So let's know your clap. Where's Wackle and Skip at? And what is it?

I talked to Skip yesterday. Me and Wackle on it. He over there. Okay. I ain't going to speak on him. Okay. I want to say no negative stuff. That was the name of the crew, UTP?

UTP. UTP. Yeah. I'm going to say rest and peace to Skip's mom, Ms. John. She passed. David, so yes, sir. Oh, man. I'm doing this.

So, you know what I'm saying? I spoke to him this morning. He's still my brother. We're still close. We're still real tight. You know what I'm saying? That's a big thing about New Orleans, right? Um, not only it being the murder capital, right?

But like, even your mazzar limbs is the ball. Well, they can't put them because of the water underground. Because of the water. Because we below sea level. Yeah. Yeah. That's a more weird. shit ain't it.

At the same time, you know, boss, I think everybody in the coastal areas across country. Yeah, here too. Yeah. Yeah. What? No basement. Same thing here. They don't have basements here. Oh, oh, shit. Yeah, we can't do it. They have aquifers under. Yeah.

Fuck. You can't under no water, but. No, that's a good shot for that, right? Not. I mean, it's not, not shot worthy. That's not shot. That's not shot. I'm watching it. He ain't going to trip in with this shit.

Hold on a hundred, a Jewish. You're going to have a shot worth of this shit. When you, okay, now you was a kid, right? What's the first rap record you hear? The first rap record I heard. I'm going to say, Furious Five, Melly Mell. It's like a jungle sometime and make me one of the hard.

And were you hooked? Hooked like a motherfucker, man. Like, hey. Hey, man, my own, hooked like a buck. You got a shot? Mellie Mellie, yeah. Man, you know, you know, I didn't see. He got you with the shot, he got the shot.

That was hard. And then after you hear that record, right? I like Melly Mell so much. I didn't like Curtis Blue. Because he went, ha, ha, ha, ha, that's off the fuck. He's still in. Oh, Dan, you thought he was. I like basketball, but I clenzer took it because he did.

Basketball. That's the wrong business. That's right. That's right. We're playing basketball. That's in the beginning. That's in the beginning. All right, so then after you hear that and you're hooked,

who do you think are the emcees that influence you? After that? L.L. Moll. motherfucking CooJ. You hear me? Ladies love, Cool J. They called Legend and Lessons.

That motherfucker came out and changed everything. Running the MC did they think, but I, L.L. was more like my era. L.L. I'm saying? And after L.L. It was Raq. N.W.

scoffish. I was on the same trail like Pillar Musk, everybody else. Right, right. The whole hip-hop world was there. Right. What you calling? He got the same list. I bet. He got the same list. Who your list is? Huh? Who your rap list is from the beginning? My rap list is? Yeah, who you like from the beginning?

Gorilla. Glorilla. Glorilla? I ain't called my right now. My bad. I say from the beginning. From the beginning, L-L. So I'm trying to face down right now. He's on the cruise ship. Yeah, I just sent them all, bro.

Oh, shit. All right, right. How you know all that shit we got that part? Nope, they phones ain't working nowhere. My bad, no. I don't fuck a cruise ship. I fly into the cruise ship and I leave out. I'm going to send you off.

I'm going to drive over. I fuck I'm not floating with you, bad. I'm just going to put with you. You tell him not float with you. You tell him not float with you. We have a boat ship boat. I ain't fucking with you. You got one?

It gave me five more. He told me gave me five more. He's not going to work. Yeah, he said I ain't flowing with you. Let me tell you something, man. That's good enough. She good. She's trying.

Good. So, uh, call shit. bounce back my shit so about that say when we did bounce back that was at a time where i was kind of like separated from cash money so i wanted to do my own thing but uh kind of went after them a little bit huh you was kind of like you ain't fuck with them a little bit because it was it was after it was the beef over the contract shit i was trying to i mean i was when i wanted that money but at the same time the song kind of like personified what i was going through in my life because everything had just started back over i went i reset it all over on everything i'm saying that was just a perfect timing for that song that's what i like about that song the moose the timing was just perfect timing but let's let's let's talk about that right um i want to say uh particular cash money

like it had a had a time where bg laugh then jewelry laugh dark side right then everyone left even Wayne left at one point then everyone came back what was your tipping point for you to leave

just that man I found out about the finances okay it wasn't nothing else wasn't no personal I don't like this guy this cat said nothing to me

that's what my lawyer said and that shit changed everything and say well right now you know as up right now today you won't receive raw the checks for like the next few years

like what how when you say words the checks words checks most people are cool with it because when I did my deal I signed everything over so cats don't understand when you sign them deals you know

you think you're taking a check and you sign all these different paperwork you think you know what I mean you think you get this work I signed on this paper I'm getting this check nah you signed over everything I signed over everything Mechanical

But I came back But they gave it all back to me I'm not about to lie and see Like I didn't get none of it I came back and went Because they The truth is They didn't know what they had a lawyer

They really didn't know The lawyer they had Was an entertainment law In the beginning Oh he wasn't So he didn't know what he was doing Tell me as a criminal lawyer Huh

And tell me it was a criminal lawyer Probably was I don't want to You know what I mean put him, but I'm just being honest with and when you go back and you go to look back at everything, you realize like

okay, they didn't try to be they didn't even understand what was going on. So that's when everything changed for me towards them. Like, I'm like, okay, I'm chipping the word. We say, and then we're talking about cash money obviously. Cash money in the hole. Like

Bird, man, and slums. And I found out that you know, my lawyer was came to the facts like, hey, man, they missed the two. They got beat. And they didn't file for this and might have not doing this and it was a whole lot of things that happened. When motherfuck was claiming shit that had nothing to do with us,

it was long story. But they, they got beat too. Feel me? And that led to us getting back in the yard and doing business together. I mean, but it was a lot of things. We didn't know. We didn't know this shit. We didn't know this shit.

We didn't understand that. We knew we could sell this many records. We was doing real good, independent. And we got the big deal. We didn't really, you know, the wrong people, wrong place. A lot of money, young men that don't understand. Uh, Wendy Day? Was Wendy Day a part of that?

No, I don't know. I wouldn't say contractually. I think she just helped connect. Yeah, I don't know. To make the relationship for the deal. Yeah. That I know of. I don't necessarily.

That's a Burryman slim question. Yeah. Yeah, I ain't asked. I don't know. I don't know. He would answer it straight, but me personally, I wouldn't know that one. And I think they're good. They have good terms, right?

Berman and many days? I'm hurting on good terms with everybody. I ain't holding no questions on nobody. Whatever happened this shit is back then, I'm going to mad right now. And I'm still getting money. That's it. It's like, wow. Why I keep crying about that shit

Well, you know you... I ain't going to ask for champagne You didn't pop no champagne So, Pablo, do you like a champagne? I will drink some champagne. This is... I know what that is. What happened?

It stopped there. This is... Like, Excalibur's sword. You can take it with you. Because you know why? thank you brother let me tell you something when I did that record with you

I already had the South but I felt like I had the cool South you had the South no no no show let me give your props you gave me the other part of the South gave me the niggas and guess what I loved that

When they're like, oh, because they, you know what I'm saying? They didn't really. I mean, you were working with David Bannon and them already with Project P. You were working with David Bannettus. I mean, but that's David Bannettus. Okay, now is David Banner. But he was crooked letters. He was crooked letters.

Yeah, yeah, he was a good thing. Because, you know, I was the first New York person to work with South Hardest. You was. Openly, openly, openly. Thank you. This is the difference. Like you saying, they had other people work with Southern artists, but she was...

Yeah, they were secretly doing it. Yeah, I'll start, I went to their hood. I went to their studio. I did it. I'm sorry, I was like, it made it look like I was looking at my partner. We loved you, but you know when you came outside, how I looked at your show was, how that bag was looking. I mean, you know, I'm outside.

You see, telling the truth about the sound. It was the bag. No. When he came out, they was playing his shit. You feel me? It was on him. Yeah. He's the first, motherfucking him, Neptune Beasts.

That's right. God damn. God damn. You, he said, I ain't seen it. Nobody. But, Juby, no. You was riding this fucking Neptune beats. He was jealous, mother.

I said, it was kind of a relationship. How he keep getting fucking Neptune Bees on every single? Yeah, they knew what they do. He was cheating, nigga. He was cheating, Nick. No. But you got another shot? Let's go take a shot.

I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. Shout out to my dog. Neptune's first. Yes, this is right. Okay. You're not going to kill me with the alcohol, but. No, no, you're good. You're good.

All right, good. So, what's next for Julie right now? Of course, always marriage. I've been married 21 years with the wife, right? Married? 21 years. Make some noise. Yeah.

I'm fresh back. 21 year. That's right. So always marriage first, family first. I got a new album coming out. My new album is called, you're going to love this, the boiling point. The boiling point. The boiling point.

Yeah, that's flushing queen shit. Why? Boiler room. Sorry. Come on guy. The boiling point. That's the boiling point. That's the boiling room.

Okay, if you use it. I mean, boiling point is a term. The boiling room. You don't remember the boiler room? I mean, I'm not from Queens. I don't know. It's not from Queens. Yeah.

What a point. It's called a boiling point. And I'm going to say it on your show I was driving in November 14th We're moving the day I don't want to fight with The holidays with Christmas, Thanksgiving and stuff like that

I've seen, you know what I'm talking about We've seen albums come out Yeah, I don't want to bang with that So y'all, y'all be looking for me in the first quarter First quarter. It's coming out in the first quarter January February The first place I said it, so you got to If you don't watch this show, you don't know

Boiling Point. Coming out first quarter. The Boilin' Point. Hey. And I got some real interesting songs. You said you got NBA Young Boy on there? Remix. Okay.

The album in its general is a lot of me. But a lot of older cats, you know, but really my cash money brothers. All of them is on there. That's who we want to hear. The ones you want to hear. Who you want to hear? That's what we want to hear.

Yeah. Is Turkey and Baby on the song together? No. Sky. You got a control. There was, though. There was, though. I'm going to keep it 100 with you.

There was. I took them off. Oh, they were on the album, together. No, no, no, no, no. I separated it. Because it was funny. Huh? The way he was like, Turk.

They just don't want to. For me, for me, just to keep it. all family and all love. I try to keep the friction out. I don't want to have a demographic that creates a problem. Right. And that's what that does.

So I don't like negativity, bro. I really don't. So that's why I don't get on platforms and say negative shit about people. Yeah. I mean, I try not. But if somebody wrong me, then I'll say something.

I feel like, that's a mix of them on it. Yeah. I'm like you so much, man. I'm going to be honest, man. You're one of the realest rappers I've ever met. Me and you have always been, always been, always, been the greatest, the greatest. Like where I see you, no matter of where we be at, we're always, same as that people. I love you, man.

I respect you. I want to give your flowers. I'm also going to take a shot with you. Salo. See, too, see, tea, tea. But we got your back. I just want you to know. This is your podcast over here.

This is your land. Whatever you want to talk about, whatever you fuck you want to talk about. If you want to hear somebody in the head with Ace of Speed. Yeah, you don't want to do none of that negativity. I mean, like, no, no, no. Like, look at what the fuck you want to do? Yeah, that works for me. I appreciate it, man.

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