Drink Champs - Episode 481 w/ Murda Mook & Loaded Lux

Episode Date: November 28, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legends, Murda Mook and Loaded Lux! The Drink Champs table turns into a Harlem cipher as battle rap legends Murda Mook and Loaded Lux pull up for a historic episode that’s as sharp as a haymaker and as layered as a Lux third round. N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN pour up and tap in with two of the culture’s greatest wordsmiths, breaking down the art, the science, and the legacy of battle rap from its raw street-corner roots to its global stage. Mook and Lux speak on their early beginnings in Harlem, the iconic DVD era, and how their legendary battles shaped an entire generation of MCs. They dive into the evolution of the craft—crowd control, performance, writing, and the mental chess that goes into dismantling an opponent. The conversation hits on classic moments, dream matchups, industry respect, and what it takes to stay authentic when your pen is constantly under the microscope. With jokes, gems, and a whole lot of history, this episode celebrates two giants who helped architect modern battle rap. Whether you grew up quoting Smack battles or you’re new to the culture, this Drink Champs sit-down is a masterclass from two Hall-of-Fame MCs who continue to push the artform forward. Make some noise for Murda Mook and Loaded Lux!💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com   Follow: Drink Champs https://www.drinkchamps.com https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps   DJ EFN  https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions   N.O.R.E.  https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is your boy, N-O-R-E. What up is DJEFN. And this is drink, Tams, the I-B-A-Hour. Make some nice! Now, one million percent, I would like to say this, and I'm acclaiming. These are two of the best battle rappers ever. I heard one of them saying the battle that, because they wasn't out

the league went down and I got to say as a battle rap fan I see that like I don't see the same vision when these two brothers ain't battling when they ain't in the field I can sincerely say the world

is a better place when they battle it to me they are icons they are legends and I want to get them their flowers I want to get them their roses I want to tell them how much they did to the game much they still have

impacted that this is years after years after years I watched them battle each other in a sneaker store I think in Harlem and I couldn't remember I was like holy shit I didn't remember that was them too and I just want to get them their flowers today in case you don't know what we

told me about my motherfucking murder and loophon the motherfucking lugs in the building I'm gonna be honest with y'all and this is this is off top this I'm truly a of y'all, right? One time I was arguing for murder

MOOC, they said to me, I swear to God. I don't know if this was a diss or a big-up. It was like, yo, you like a Trump fan for murder a MOOC. I said, oh, shit. You can't tell a Trump fan. They locked it. They locked in. So I was like, oh, shit. I ain't know how to take it. So I was just like, all right, you got this one.

Right, right. But, like, I sincerely can't ever say that I've ever seen you lose a battle. Like, you know what I'm saying? And, like, recently you had a battle. Lux, your shit was on pay-per-view. Yeah. Yo.

Yeah. How the fuck? How far is hip-hop going when it's pay-per-view, bro? Yeah, no. So it hasn't come out yet? It came out on, because they got it on the app, too. Okay. So it came out on the app already.

Okay. But they look and released it, though, sooner. Okay. Yeah, I saw it. I saw it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't going to lie. Yo, you still sharp.

Like, like, like, like, like, I'm going to be honest. Like, everybody got to lose a step. Like, everybody, like, the more you keep doing this, I don't care if it's Floyd. I don't care if it's, you know, Mohammed Ali, Mike Tyson, like, I'm looking for the flaws. And I'm like, these niggas is old niggas. He's my. No, they can't try it. You can't change.

He can't change. He didn't change. You know, man. You know, I'm like, yo, Justin. You know, playing like, this is real talk. It's real talk. You can't be that good without having the love for it. So I need to ask because both of you, I kind of took breaks.

Is the love still the same? Like, for the game? Yeah, because it's almost like one with your existence, so to speak. You know what I'm saying? Like you, we all come here. What a job to do, so to be, right? With some purpose. Right.

It's just so happening is that my passion and my love is, I don't know, something that shit like air to me. Right. You know what I mean? And honing in on it actually makes life that much more better in the experience of it. You know what I'm saying? So I think that's the thing. It'd be like, yeah, I love it. And I know it's more life to come with that love.

So it's like, it's some shit. we didn't see yet that I want to see. You know why it's crazy for y'all is because and I know other battle rap is going to see this like my fuck no way. So y'all really at the top. So it's like, it's like it's got to be hard to be in that position

because everybody wants that your spot. I mean, what we're doing though they, you know, they shouldn't say fuck us like they were because we sharing light on what's going on. in our world. We bring you know people to everybody to our world. So, you know, they're going

they're going to salute that. You feel me? Like, that was just look at it like niggas and shit. You know what I mean? Nick, only haters be like, yo, you fuck that, nigga. You know what I'm saying? But it just so happened that this is what we were gifted to do. You know what I mean? Like, it's not something

we learned to do. Like, this, we had to find out that this was really our gift, especially to the world, how we present it. Right. You know, I want to allude to the point, though, that you said earlier, like, yo, how you continue to do it? I mean, when you losing a step, that's physical. That's like, you know, when you play sports, physically your body can't, you know, keep that up for all of them years. But your mind, that's the opposite.

Your mind only gets stronger as time goes on. The experience, the more you see the knowledge you picked up. So it's your mind. It's just expands. So, you know what I mean? That's how I feel like we're just able to consistently be on that level. Yeah. You know?

It's a willingness. Right. You feel me? Because what? Like, I watched Cam. Your headbraided just crazy. Yeah, because you know, I wanted to know, I wanted you to my shit is real. I wanted you to point that.

I was, thank you. I was just, I was just going to go out here thinking I went to. When they said I went to, like, what you were my friend, my friend, Joe. Like, what the fuck? What he said you went to? Shout out to Joe. He said, he said, I,

Norby wouldn't have went to Turkey without telling me. But I was like, you ain't defending me, man. You're supposed to say, no. No, of course he ain't going to Turkey. I'm feeling, man.

I feel like it's like. You know, I'm glad that you brought in that. You know, you're just talking about us. We meet you. No, no, no, no. You don't know, we discussed this. You know, in all, you know,

in all respect, you came late. You can't, you know, I said five. You know, so he didn't read it. He didn't read it. on Mr. Lee? Yeah.

That is the best escapegoe ever blaming Mr. Lee. Because he don't speak English, so it's like crazy. So you win that one. But like, I see somebody, right? I can't say the name, right? But I went to go see him perform.

And as he performed, like, he killed it. And then he turned around and walked off stage, and I see him put on the ice grill. And as a fan, I was so. mad that he was, he didn't want to be there because you got to realize heaven could be held if you don't want to be

there. You understand what I'm saying? So like, so like, like, as we sitting there as a fan and we're sitting there, you don't, we don't know that this man might have to pay his bills or, like, he's there for a purpose as opposed to being there for the love. That's why we love this artist. There's a kind of choice anymore. No, no, no, you ain't going to ever guess me because I'm an acoustic nigger. So, you know what I'm saying?

What I'm trying to say It changed my mind Like right now I'm driving through the park And I see Cooter La Gang got a free show And I say I'm dead seriously Going to the Cooler Gang show Right

Like I'm dead serious But now I'm saying Is Cooter Gang happy Performing for 50 years You understand what I'm saying Like is that something that It's still Yeah

That's personal You know what I'm saying Like yeah It's personal You got to make your piece What it is you do Because all your choices Let do that

Right Right But whatever the will we at right now in that juncture, everything you did put you in this position. Right. You know what I'm saying? So if anything is happening for a reason. Now, when you speak to the love, though, the love of said thing. Right.

That's tricky. You know what I'm saying? That's really a personal thing. Right. You know what I mean? Me personally, I can't do this without love. All right. Like me, I take two.

I'm a playoff basketball fan, right? Like when the playoffs come, and I'm down with everybody. No. Right. Got to watch the season. I realize, I'm a playoff battle rap.

Like, man, because when y'all come out, then I come out. And I was like, damn, I haven't been watching battle rap. And I'm like,

Hey, yo. Luxem, who ever been battling? I'm like, is it me? Like, I'm like,

so, but, no, it's, it's, I mean, like, like,

hey, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? It's a lot of, it's a lot of big, like, you know, rise and stars, especially in battle rap. But they say that about, about y'all.

Like, man, them old niggas, man, you know what I'm saying? Like, niggas don't, niggas ain't tapped in. Who's doing what? You feel me? But I ain't got no problem with niggas just watching me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't got a problem with that. But the love, talking to what Luxe said, like the love, I just love when motherfuckers

cheered for me. Right. You know what I'm saying? Real shit. You know, that. And that feeling when you get, when you're battling, it's a feeling like any other. You know, especially when you're on fire and the fraud or the crowd, you know what I mean, because they don't know what you're going to say.

It's that shit. Like, it was like. It's like chasing a high. Like, you get me. Yeah. You make me. That's what DJ felt like, too. Like, when you start getting into it, I be feeling like I'm you.

Like, I'm like, oh, my God. Burr. Burr. Yeah. Like, I'm listening to the battle. And I'm listening to it. Right. Because we drive in here, so I'm listening to it.

And, like, it's crazy because y'all both algorithms, like, y'all have crazy fans. For sure. Like, y'all have, is, what is that like? You know what I'm saying? Because, like, I'm listening to you in London, right? That's what was the last battle, right? With twerk in London, right? And I'm listening to you.

And as you say your second verse, they finish in your line. So obviously, these are people that's either fans from London or these people that flew in to see this battle. Yeah. I've met people from Sweden and I was there, Amsterdam, all type of shit. Yeah, it's like that. So how does that feel like, that's overseas now? Yeah, and you say he's going to die overseas? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, check it out, check it out.

Right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right. You know what you meant, God? Let's explain it, because I'm, let's explain it, come on. I don't know what I'm going to do blood. So, you know, he, he's a gang member, he blood, but he don't die overseas, you know what I'm saying? Like, still don't get it. Steve, Steve, Chris. Oh, this shit, a whole master class when we're doing this shit.

Yeah, no, yeah, I'm bad, slow, my bad. Thank you. Now, you're not slow. Yeah, yeah, thank you. You're not slow. I'm going to get to do some soccer because I'm celebrating, y'all. I know you ain't drunk, don't drink no more. Yeah, we, we got, we got this.

We got ginger shots for you. Yeah, yeah, we're going to do all that with you. All right, yeah. All right, yeah. I'm going to celebrate you. You know what I mean? I'm going to celebrate you because, yo. So let me ask you, let me ask you a question.

What's up? Is it hard to like a new artist, right? To be like, yo, a new battle rapper and be like, yo, you know, I like them. And you say, you man, I like what you're doing. You know what I mean? Continue to do your shit or whatever. Is it hard because that artist would say, yeah, thank you. But in the back of their mind, they're like, but I'm going to get you one.

Oh, yeah, yeah. No, fuck it right. Right, right. I had to kind of like scale that back because early on, you know, I would show love. love the diggies, like, yo, I fuck with them, fuck with it. But then out of nowhere, I see a blog, and niggis is like, yeah, I kill that niggum. You know what I'm saying?

You tell so long. Word, like, just, just focus on. But isn't that part of the course, though? No, but check it, right? I get mad at that. We come from where niggins, they fuck with each other when they battle. Like, early on, you know what I'm saying?

Like, me and this guy right here. Yeah. when we first battle all the times and it was in the Bronx it wasn't in Harlem but it was a sneaker store in the Bronx it was a sneaker store right

it was underground but we first battle and we didn't speak to each other after the battle y'all knew each other before that battle we knew of each other

yeah I ain't gonna lie that's y'all was like the first version of viral I mean no disrespect to nobody right no disrespect to nobody out there that was the first verse

because me y'all was viral That was VHS, that's tape. No, no, no, no, that was, that was, that was, you know, that was, like, yeah, he's violent, bro, like, like, yo. You're trying to do what he is. You know, for real. You got to return that shit before the lady.

Maybe I was going like that. No, it wasn't V8, no, it wasn't VHS, no. Okay. You're talking about Peter Penn or something, like, I don't know. Wow. You got to rewind this. But that battle. That was classic

We didn't speak to each other for like six, seven years It was like real drama Like you know what I'm saying Like niggas like that's just how it was You battle somebody was a war And it was like I don't fuck with you And you like after that I don't fuck with me

When they was back in the day's break dance Having those battles They didn't fuck with each other That was a way for games You just resolved truce is for real Like have a truth through that Right I mean Yeah but it was saying

And after that, though, it had to, we had to, like, learn how to, like, well, I can tell only speak for me right now, but I had to learn that this shit was just, like, entertaining sport. So when niggas used to say shit and be like, yo, yo, I fuck with you, I love you, and then I see them on the blog and they'd be like, fuck that nigga, I hate that nigga. I'm like, yo, where is this, like, how did this come from? You know what I'm saying? Yo, free my nigga surf, right? Surf was the nigga that actually taught me that it was that. Like, he used to just call me and be like, yo, I'm going to come out too small. I'm about to fucking go crazy on you.

You know, like, I, like, you know what I'm saying? There's a certain respect that comes to that. Right, right. Because he's not ducking. He's like, you know, and in all retrospect, you got to understand that you are the big dog. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like outside of this looking in and the inside of this looking out, everybody was like I read your comments

and they're like everybody wants you right right but that's like pause pause like but that's not a bad thing because like like everybody wants to fight Floyd Mayweather you know what I'm saying like so is there anybody who like who did that to you that you wanted

to battle all right when you say I wanted to like because isn't it a mutual thing like you got to agree to it is it or is it all about the numbers No, I mean, I got to respect what you got going on, you know And it's kind of like, it becomes like a soap opera

It's a storyline And you got to build up Like the WWF shit You build up to it Like so it could generate interest Right You know And you know

The other person definitely got to have something Going on to where It's going to be beneficial For not just the league But for my brand As well, yeah You know what I'm saying? So

Everybody that talks shit you just cared, you know what I mean? But then they'd be like, yo, nigga acting like a diva, like a thing is supposed to be battle. I ain't about to be out here just battling all, like, every single person. You know what I mean?

Because then you oversaturate yourself. Then, you know, what you demand, you're not going to be able to meet, you know? So me, nah, but as far as one, like a person, um, like twerk, twerk, search of twerk, he did that. Right. You know what I mean?

Like that you had to understand. Yeah. Yeah, Gigi Gotti. You know what I'm saying? Like, all the people I battle, like, more than, like, mostly did that. Even you said hitman holler called himself the St. Louis murder. Yeah, he swear he did, but, you know. But he did.

You know what I'm saying? You feel me? But that comes with the territory. All right. That comes with the territory. Now, is there a such thing as going too far? Absolutely. Hell yeah.

Hell yeah. I want to know what you're going. I want to know what you feel. Certain shit is just crass, man. It's like, it's cringe, man. You don't need to do that. All right. You know what I'm saying?

All right. We could still, you know, be formidable opponents, still have respect and do it in a great light or display for the sport without going certain places. But, you know, technically in battle rap, ain't no rules. You know what I'm saying? You can go where you want to go. But, yeah, man, the integrity, the certain things. it's just, it don't even allow for the viewer, right, to really just engage in the art, per se.

Because then you go to certain spaces, and the way it hit the viewer, it's like, it's a little crinzy show. It's hard to just listen to the art form. And that, you know, that's what I've taken from it, especially like if kids are mentioned or, you know, the deceased is mentioned. Not to say technically in battle rap, you can't do that.

You can go wherever you want to go. Right. Even speak on the dad, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, man. Like, I believe your last battle, you went out of a girl named cinnamon, right? And that was Homeboy's girl, and I didn't, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah. I thought you were really naming cinnamon. Oh, no, no, no.

And niggas ain't caglet. I just, no, but it was a line with I was just like, uh, when I said, uh, cinnamon. Another, oh, no, there's cinnamon and cinnamon. That was just a play with what I was like, um, the bro's going to be fucking that whole. Like, it's no tomorrow. I know the pill of a nigga, another nigga's spoon and cinnamon is going to be hard to swallow, right?

But her last neighbor's Witherspoon, too. Just, they're just so trying to throw that. So that's just the metaphor of that. But, you know, no, you speak on, you know, females. Like, you know, I just don't deal, like, the day. Right. Don't speak on, don't speak on the day. Right.

You feel me? But, like, kids, like, Luxor said kids, I mean, I can, I speak on your child. You know what I'm saying? But I'm not. I speak on your child. I won't speak on a bit of crazy, like, you know, fuck the Lord. What's the nightmare speaking about the kids? You got to make it creative.

You got to make it creative. You know what I'm saying? Like, but depending on how disrespectful they are, you know what I mean? Then that's how you beat the disrespect the same way. Because, yo, y'all, to me, when I analyze it, like, y'all are sharper than rappers, right? because battle rapper is is a certain criteria right and then

you have to be sharp like a comedian right and to a certain extent you guys kind of have to kind of be somewhat of a comedian because you got to make you got to keep the crowd entertained is that something you do on purpose or that's something that just happens as you writing the rhyme because I'm just dying like we were driving and we were laughing

Like as you're doing rhymes Like we're laughing And I'm realized like Like yo And I'm like Yo is this a That's a stand up comedian show too Like because

If it doesn't feel like that It's like time Yeah that's It comes in the play You just know that shit It's hard to even Kind of explain it But it's just

When you're breaking down Character Of your opponent You know what I'm saying Certain things that you look at And you go All right All right

That's some weird shit right there. But it's like, how do I artistically are trying to put it in a way to where it's going to hit? Look, one creatively, throw it punching in. But then how do I deliver it? You feel me? Right. That's, see, that shit?

You can't hardly teach that. Like, here, it's like we be in that space. And it's like, yeah, investigators, too. Like, I remember when you back were King Solomon. I am. I am Solomon, my bad. I was so entertained by, like, what you was putting, I thought you made this shit up.

So I was like, you couldn't have been, you couldn't have been that good of an investigator. You were like, oh, no, all of that shit is true. And I was just like, I literally felt sorry for the dude. I'm Robert Smith. And this is Jacob Goldstein. And we used to host a show called Planet Money. And now we're back making this new podcast called

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Right, right. Is it like that? I mean, yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying? People definitely, like, you know, you, but if you know people, like, me and I, like, me and him, like, we knew some of, a lot of the same people.

You know what I mean? Like, he freed from New York and we built from New York. So we knew a lot of the same people. So people, you know, they definitely be like, yo, yo, this happened, or you will remember something happened. Like, you know what I mean? something from back, back there.

It hit more when it's true, man. Right. Right. That's just what it is. Because it's the famous battle rapper face. They'd be like, got it. You know, they'd be straight stone.

Like, I mean, you're writing to my battle rapper face. Like, I'd be like, I'm like, yo, you got to like, that, you know, that's like, that's, you know, that's dope. You know, they're like this. It's still.

And then he did. Every now that they'd be like, it's there. It's there, though. I'm like, because you think you got it, you can't, like, let them learn like that was kind of good. You can't, like, you know, because you're a rapper, and if a rapper say a ball, it's good, you got to be like, ooh, like, you. I'm going to go over it. I'm going to give you a little credit for it.

You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like, I'm going to take a shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like, that's the best, yo, listen, if you want to be interrogating, you're fucking with the sake. You're a sock. You want to be, we celebrate y'all. Listen, if you want to know how to beat the police and the police in the. interrogation room. You got to go and go sit down with a battle. Just don't say nothing.

How about that? Just don't say nothing. That's it. That's it. Yeah. Hey, yo. Hurry out. Lawyer.

That's how you know. That's how you know that he's going to come with some shit. Lawyer. Because the first round, it'd be like, they test in each other, right? Especially two emcees that respect each other. So it's always that second round that they want to throw it out of you I must always

Give me a water Give me a water Nah, shit'd be crazy up here Like, it's a real rap And the niggins just throw the water The nigga ain't even his man The next thing is like Oh shit

Why ain't just do water at me? Like, okay, cool Yo, but that's shit It's there though You know, you know It's spoken word or form You know, but It's very theatrical.

because it's a lot of different. You got to keep up with storylines, right? You got to know what's going on. And also, like, certain times, like, we in Lux were speaking about this. Right. When you brought, like, you just brought up Drake and Kendron, right? I feel like the thing of shit just battle.

That would have been crazy. I feel like, y'all, that would have been good. Like, no, no, no, no. Oh, you're talking about face to face. Oh, that would have been, I'm talking about this. Nah. Nah, you know, y'all drip, man. That would be a reasonable have time.

No, Drake wanted to do it. He wanted, you know how many times Drake me and Drake almost, almost battled, though? Yeah, but what did he happen, though? He, right? Listen, that's almost, that's the biggest. He was the biggest word. That's the biggest word.

But I'm not saying battle another battle rapper. Right. Because that's not fit. I'm talking about what. Them two, right? Them two? Mm. I feel like, I feel like they,

K. Dot come from this. Let's do it in AI, see how it works out. No, no. If that happens. If they were, they both fill me. They, I mean, really, though. And I think Drake feel, like Drake could do it. I mean, he's definitely a fan of that, for sure.

You don't think he would battle Kendrick, like face-to-face? I think at this point, none of that's happening. And at this point. That nigga, yes, he's a fucking... I'm saying you don't think Drake will battle Kendrick. No, at this point. Yeah. I think it could have happened at some point.

I think at this point, it's when he needs it. Yeah, right? At this point, Nick, at this point, it's like, what else right? Right now, shit. All the chips is... Yeah, it ain't know where to go. Lawsuits falling apart. I don't know.

It's crazy. I think... Yeah. I think Drake and Meek would have been a better... A better... Battle? Yeah, because I... I feel like meek.

Meek comes from that. Yeah, it comes from that. Drake, I mean, Kendrick come from. But, Nick, he was back. Oh, you never seen him. No, I never seen that. Oh, you know, a wild more. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't he go at somebody or back, oh, there was old footage of it. Oh, you're talking about, uh, on the Super Bowl shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was talking about. He still watch battle raps. When he watched me, Lux, Lucks, you know what I'm saying, rock.

Daylight But he watched that Like he very That niggas It's footage of that man Battle rapping Like he started off Like battle rapping

Watching smack DVDs and shit I feel like He would He would do it Right And I feel like It's I personally

On both ends of the spectrum Drake I'd be like listen, I bet I battle this nigga. I gotta kill him, and I can get everything back. Right. That, you know, that he, that he, they feel like, you know, got took from him. All right now.

Kendrick. He got a power for presentation. I'm just saying, though. This is what we think about them. Sorry, go. Kendrick would be like, nigger, I'll beat you. pause in every statistical category

and that's why I feel like he'll do it like nigga, I'll crush you till it's nothing. That's how he'll take it. Drake would be like, nigger, I could gain it all back with this one role. I mean, it's one role. This one role

I could get everything back. That'd be, I'm telling you, I feel like crazy. Right. And that should have been a lot of money. Drake doing it beforehand, he had a lot of shit going on with it. It wouldn't have been the best move. You know what I'm saying? Coming right off that tour, all that shit.

But how about, let's just go to a historical battles that was on record, right? How about K.R.S. one and, uh, Shan? You think they should have did the same thing? At that time, though, that wasn't what was going on. Yeah, that's the way it was at that time. I think K.R.S. World of battle right now. Yeah, he's done right now. With your beat, he a definitely battle.

All his life shows, he battled somebody. I think he raised up battle himself. Like, world up. Fuck you care. The IRS is the best, no. Like doing something in the mirror it up. That's what I think. Now, it cares what it's for parents.

Yeah, I'm telling you, I just feel like, you know, a lot of y'all, like, you know, and I say y'all. I got asking this. Go ahead. In a battle, fad with banks. I'm going to take a shot for that. We're not talking about it. But, yeah, I don't know. That's kind of good.

We're saying lyrics, right? That's a criteria. You see us in the green. What are they going to be dancing? Because if you say, if you say hit-wise, music-wise, then Fath is music-wise. If we're talking about the lyrics. Man, no, we're talking about it. Then Lloyd Banks.

Mm-hmm. Then Lori Banks. You heard him. I think Fav. I think, I felt like Fab. Me and him have this argument all the time. And Fab, Fab. I'll ask you this

But I feel like Fab always dumped his lyrics down To make the hits records You know what I'm saying You can't be having them C syllables and all that in the hits You know what I'm saying? But it ain't just syllables though And he got him dumb his down

He just no He just mastered how to make it Make it Format it Simples learn to learn That can catch it But to the niggies that know We hear the lines

Right Yeah You feel what I'm saying That's an art in itself So, you know, but He said, Binks. I mean, Yeah.

No, this is our shit. Yeah, but, but, but, you're going to hear a fabulous record in the club. You might not hear Lloyd Banks record. Yeah, no, we, we, we, we're not talking about, we're on, we,

it's not a versus. We're, we, we're talking about it. This is just raw. I think, as an artist, I think of everything. You know what I'm saying? Like, everything. You, you actually rap like you battle rap. Good looking.

You do it. I ain't going to debate you. Lick, come on. Good, look. That's a problem. That's a problem. Let's make a noise for me. Let me switch it up because.

Oh, now y'all, y'all is recognized, but now we're just going to enjoy the night's got too. Like, like real shit. I'm telling you. But let me ask you, let me ask you particular. There's a guy right now, you can't turn on your phone. You can't turn on your, your, your, you can't turn on your, your, you. internet without seeing this guy and they always refer to the interview

you did with him at the breakfast club. Oh. And so I want to ask you a two-part question. That interview itself made people two things. Either stop working for people

or figure out how to work for their self as well. How did you feel seeing Dames say that? Because a lot of us work for other people. Why do you say there's a guy and didn't have to say dame out there. No, because I wanted you to say dang. Oh.

You were home. You can get away with it. You know longer than I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, but, um, like, when you look back at that interview, like, was that a plus in your career?

Was that, like, like, yeah, like being a part of that interview? I mean, absolutely. Okay. Absolutely. Um, I mean, they say it's one of the best interviews ever. Yeah, that's what they said.

You know what I mean? Like, um, but, but just being around in that space also for me like Dame always gave me you know what I'm saying a lot of game a lot of Jews you know what I mean

however people deal with how they handle the expression or how he delivers or whatever you know what I mean that's on them you feel me but as me

he he always I always learn something from hearing him saying you know like he give the game up all the time you know um but as far as that interview that shit was hilarious that shit was hilarious to me and it's still it's still hilarious they're still going too still viral that that of course yeah he just did another one didn't he yeah you know um nah dam's he's gonna he gonna talk that taste that's hall of yeah you feel what I'm saying right I feel like you try to go so where there I'm actually asking you because you know um

There's always up and down to everything you do, you know what I mean? And, like, see, I can sit at something and I can be a fan of something, but it's different living out of it. You know what I mean? Right. And I was always wondering, did you get back last for that? I mean, maybe, maybe, maybe secretly, you know, maybe certain opportunities or things people wanted to do business with me, maybe didn't happen because of that. Why? You know, maybe, maybe I don't know, because I never knew.

you feel what I'm saying they never told me it could have been because did you watch part two of him going because yeah hold on right they didn't get over it so look not get over it I didn't see the full interview but I just feel like what

the God got for me like God got for me the universe and nothing could stop that and I don't really need to be a nigger's world right you know what I'm saying like so I'm like I've made this world I made niggas come holler at this world. I remember Niggas used to be like,

oh, them niggas just battle rappers. Like, you know what I mean? Them niggas don't do nothing. But then now I just be making more than niggas that used to say that. Right. You feel what I'm saying? Not even just on that, I'm just saying, but and the niggas, they come see what we got going on. Right. You feel me? So, you don't got to really

just be in that world and nigg ain't need it. Go ahead, right. Right, right. Right. But, no. I just think Dame should that whole that whole space in terms of him i mean at least giving it up though the whole the whole boss mentality is it's perfect i mean it is he instilled great things within it i just think about the leading up to it to how you get there it's just the only thing that that goes unsaid you know

i'm saying but however he gave us a lot of game especially in our space and how we should walk and hone ourselves in that. And that comes from the road that he did walk. You know what I'm saying? So he's erudite in a lot of facets, you know what I'm saying? Aerodyte. You know, he got it, man. He really got it.

You know what? You received backlash? What? For what? For like you and Dame shit. Me and Dame? Dave gives me the backlash. What?

Listen, me and him spoke. We squashed whatever disagreements that we had. And we vowed to speak, you know, only positive of each other. I feel like he kept his end of the bargain I feel like I'm keeping my end of the bargain So I if I bring up his name I probably bring it up in the most positive Fashion ever

You know what I mean like I tell you like this When we were at Rockefeller Most of the time when we got gear My crew got gear it came from Dame Dash You know what I'm saying when Like the thing about it is I don't want the black CEO to go extinct And right now like that's what it seems like

It seems like they're kind of like trying to like make the back seat now now now this is just me speaking in general now if a certain person is digging their own grave that's something totally different but the fact is the music industry is going it's going to survive through us you know what I mean like like I remember at one point like you know Queensbridge was so hot you would go to Queensbridge you would see just white A&Rs just risking their life just to sign the next mob dep or the next Nile's or the next component or Uriaga but that shit was that's it was that That shit was shocking then, but why our own can't do that shit? You know what I'm saying? Why our own? Because you can look, that looks out of place, right? But why we can't discover ourselves? You know what I'm saying?

Indeed. Why we can't decide ourselves. That's where I wanted to go. And, you know, the more and more they try to like make, or they try to, you know, whatever it's happening in the Dame, it makes it seem like it's the black CEO for as opposed to, you know what I mean? Maybe it's, maybe it's a, but, you know, all love to Dame. I mean, if anything, it's, it's, it's entertainment.

Yeah, but he's he's turned into a different person now. He's went from the villain to the villain. Like, he's the villain now. Like, I seen Cam say that, I said, yo, whoever around him, he shouldn't had him come out with

like his teeth. But just think about it. That's also a villain, like, character. Like, you actually embrace, I don't know, I'm speculating. We killed him for that. Okay, okay. Are you kidding?

Yeah, yeah. But that's what we do that. We can choke on each other all the day. Like, you got to have tough skin. Okay. You got to have tough skin. We killed him for that. You know what I'm saying?

I'm pretty sure he killed himself for that too. But, you know, like, you see, like, even with, we can't? Actually, hold on. Okay. Can I get some credit here? Hold on. Okay. Okay.

There was a time, the last time we was on, oh, the first time. Yeah. Shout out the three times. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Right. Right. When you and Ken wasn't really even on it. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. That's right. That's right. That's right. You're right. You're right. You know what? You do deserve it. Come on. Come on. Now. I totally forgot. You are absolutely right. You are absolutely right. Come on. Now, you know what? You know, whatever. cam and dame they got going on yeah you know they ain't none of my business i never thought i never thought i never thought that i never thought that would ever happen like yeah i mean i never thought jane

would ever fall out neither i mean i don't know i don't know because i wasn't there so i can you know i mean i never even hung around jays i don't know none of that you know what i mean that's them but cam and and dame i could possibly i could say that you know what i'm saying uh but you know that ain't none of my business they they knew each other for How many years before, yeah, you know what I'm saying? It's like family business and shit You know, so, I don't know, I don't know that You know more about that than me, you know?

Like even, even, um, Cam and Jim, um, like I was filming a documentary called What, what? And I, um, I hate it. Not the documentary, but. Oh, you hate that they be in, yeah, yeah. Like, so I went and I looked at it the other day. I looked at some of the footage.

And it was Cam and, um, I believe he was calling Joe Moore at the time. and they were sitting there and Jim had on like an army fatigues and boots and like it was like the rough rough version of them and I'm sitting there and I'm just looking and I'm like what they were saying

kind of meant nothing to me because I was just looking at the growth of how and I'm like you know what they both won in life you know what I'm saying from that very footage of that moment to where they are now I was just like you know what fucking I'm going to look at the good part of this Because, like, I can't lie to you.

I know I'm naive. I'm a naive person. Like, when I look at Terror Squad, sometimes I like the original Terrasquard. I know that I'm naive. I know that there's beefs that happen. I know that. And when I look at the original dip set, bro, it's fucked up. I know that.

But I like the original dipset. And I want the original. And I know that's like, you know, asking fucking Santa Claus for Ferrari. I mean, you six years old. You know what I'm saying? Like, I understand what that is. I mean, you get one, the toy one. And then you could look at it

until you could dream about getting the other one with you, you know what I went on tour with them, you know, so it's different for me. Like, I got to see the other side. So, but how did you, so after y'all, after y'all, let's get back to y'all, right? After y'all battle, right? You say y'all didn't go, how did you y'all

patch it up? Like, what exactly was the moment? Growth time. Because didn't y'all, didn't y'all battle in Eminem's league, too? Yeah. So, slaughterhouse, yeah. So was it before that or was it? No, it was before, it was Before that you had to understand

We was good before then That was when That was the business Okay You know, that was when We realized Oh shit You know what I mean

This is this is You pass it up Before that Because like I So now I'm asking this I'm asking this I'm asking this out of pure ignorance I mean that's how

You battle somebody before Right Then y'all get cool And y'all hang out Do you be on your P's and Q's You're like This thing might use this on me one Oh, I mean, yeah, of course.

Before ever. No, I'm saying, let's suppose y'all battled already, right? Yeah. And then y'all hanging out. Do you still, like, be on point hanging out with this guy? No, I mean, because you like, y'all fight is over and y'all might not fight again? Depending on, no, no, depending on who it is. Depending on who it is.

Because you know that it's easily you might can fight again. I mean, no, yeah, like, my brother, you know what I'm saying? Like, Rex, shout out to Rex. Rex got two battles, too. Oh, yeah, he got one today, and he got one today. and he got one of them all. You know, shout out to Rex. You know, like, when there's family, like, you know what I mean?

You don't care about that. Like, but, you know, when there's other battle rappers, you got to definitely get a thing like that. Because, you do something like, you. Now, see, you shit, don't do what you was against you. Word up. He'd be like, yo, he just, this shit, teach you how to live. You got to even dress right.

Yeah, like, for sure. You remember that day? You were dead. You were like, no. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Ninn gonna tell you about yourself.

That shit, that shit definitely, that shit definitely happened. Yeah, somebody gonna tell you about your show. For a family, nah. Yeah, yeah. You know, that's a lack. Me and Lux... I get past that. We became just brothers.

Yeah, both of them. Okay. You know? Because, like, people feel like he won the first one. People feel like I won the second one. You know, and it's like... the wars that like the two wars like the plus from who arguably who the two greatest that they say ever did it you know you grow from that like you know how many niggas you don't you fought and then y'all just get cool after you know what I mean like some of those be the some of the greatest fucking friends and relationships you got right people that you you once went the war with yeah it's a commonality it's something that Yeah, I respect each other.

Indeed. Absolutely. It builds the respect. Yeah. Absolutely. Where the, what should call us, though? The ginger shot? Yeah.

Oh, you can't, if you have a shot? Okay. I'm going to take some sake shots. Let's take a shockey. What is Jinja? Yeah, okay. They're going to get a ginger shop, but you just have a sake show. Tell me what you want and tell us.

Oh, okay. Yeah, why are you trying to make me? You're trying to make a drink? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you're a fun drunk. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going out of your boss. You're going to be a guy and crazy.

I got to stand for niggins that room with that. Yeah, for sure people you don't want to drink with, like that start drinking and they get serious. Yeah. And everything in life is serious. You know, man, you heard the aliens is coming down, God. You're like, yo, give me my drink back. Yeah, they're on the way though.

You know they're really on the way though. Yeah. So you want to know that. That's why you're going to drink. That's why you're going to drink no more. You want a little, you know. I'm just telling you, I hear you. You're going to tell him a battle with that.

No, but, oh, hey, wait, Bob. What happened to the lights? It's not C-74, guys. No, no, I was saying, like, you know, I just had to stop because it was, it was ruining my life. I was drinking every day. Respect the hitman out of, right? Yeah. I've seen him bring up that, like, a couple of times.

everything. Me personally I've seen you drinking, I've drunk with you but I've never seen you be a drunk so is that something that was exaggerated that he was doing or that's something that you really had to change in your life? Yeah, I had to change that in my life.

Like that part absolutely be I went to rehab for it, went to rehab a year and a half ago right? It became a real issue for me personally, my family.

Right. You know, I could see it's night and day, you know, at now, maybe because you was, like, drinking too, you know, so you didn't notice, but the people that, like, knew me and me as well, it was extremely noticeable. Right. You know that it was just controlling me. Like, you know, every day I felt like I had to.

every day I had to and I wasn't being able to be productive thank you so much I wasn't able to be productive and just with the relationship with people that I love it was putting a strain on that as well

you know and I know how serious drinking was because like when I was inside the program Like, they like, yo, somebody over here, they like, yeah, you, you could detox for three. Oh, what's you on crack? Oh, you good. You could detox.

What's on? What's you on? Uh, dope. What's you on? Cokane. What you? Oh, you good. You could detox for three days.

They like, what you drink every day? Oh, hold on. Come on now. We got to do that. Like, they like, yo, like, and I'm like, what the way? Like, why are they like alcohol or something like the most serious shit? Yeah. Like, if you drink every day.

Yeah. And then you just stop drinking. you could die from that you know what I'm saying the other shit like you know you can't die from that so they put you on watch for that so I'm like you know that's just open

methadone for alcohol? No no I mean like hey you know they say like if you get off heroin do you get yeah that's just for because it's it yeah they they would get methadone they would get oh wow to I guess right

to um I guess you know yeah anyone on opioids right they would give them that every day You know, but one thing, another day I learned from being inside there was, you know, you can't, you shouldn't really judge people like, you know, people that we walk around, growing up, you know, you might look at somebody on crack or somebody on heroin and sit like that. It'd be like, you know, they just that part. Like, fuck them. You just, you know, dismiss their whole life.

They don't exist anymore. You know, now I'm sitting. Now I'm sitting there, and I'm next to them, right? And I'm next to them, and them getting better, you realizing they got talent, they got gifts, you know, they start blooming, they become who they want, who they want to be, and then you just realize, like, man, like, this could be me. Like, you know, that could have been me, and this is why they got to give them as flowers, me. This is why my man, yo, bro, is great. And he's great because we're in the field. I take a shot with you.

Hold on, honey. He's fucking up his shot. Yeah, I'm coming up in Saloo. Salo. Salo. Salo. Salo. We have a good thing.

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It's the shit like that. I just see an interview with y'all. Yeah, an interview with y'all. outside, I believe it was in Harlem. It's young to, on... No, my wife, she couldn't be here. Because my daughter just came from school, you know, to get her hair. So my wife's CEO did it, luxia here.

You know, she was here at the last one. That's how I shop. Okay. Our salon is in Harlem, 117th Street, between 2nd and 3rd Avenue. You know, we do the best. You had the LV sweatsuit on. It was green. Yeah.

That was a N-Y. That was the N-Y, yeah, but, um, that's where we, you know, we shot that app. That was what we can tiger bone? That's what we, ginger, ginger, yeah, ginger gong. Ginger gongs. You like it's ginger gongs, man. Oh, my God. Why, every time we come here, it's some shit y'all made up?

No, man. Don't fuck it with you, man. I'm going to take it. I'll take it. All of, man. Shout out the Jews ball, man. Shout out ginger gung. Shout out teamwork.

Shout out jukebox. Okay. What's that shit you was telling? Mama. My mother, right? Look, look. Okay, so. It's rude.

And you know what soccer? That's true. That comes from that family. Right, right. That's what Tiger Bone is, too. Tiger Bone is. For me, like, I, at first I tried. You got to get that.

Yeah. Like, I'm not a, I don't, you know what I'm saying? Tiger Bone is horrendous, man. What? It's horrendous. It's horrendous. No, no. I'm not.

I'm not. I'm not preaching for Tiger Bowl. I'm not preaching to Tiger Bowl crazy with it. Take Tiger Bowl. You can't. This is a tiger bone. This motherfucker wants to drink it like it's liquor. It's supposed to be a tablespoon in the morning,

like when you get up and a tablespoon at night. Right. And we drink it at like this. You're not talking to giggins, though. Yeah, yeah. No, we've never done that. We take shots. Like, what do you mean?

We take shots. And who the fuck takes a tablespoon? No one really does a tablespoon. Who like, who does that shit? No one does that. Like this is why. It was why shit we're going. But, yeah, like, you've been like for a long time, though.

Like, how do you? balance it? Yeah. A jog. Healthy. You always, you always? I just, I made it a sport now. I made it a hobby.

Like, when people, when people are, like, they got golf, I like to jog, man. I like to hurt myself, man. I'm running a New York City Marathon just in case you ain't know. Oh, shit. Why are you looking at me like that? Yeah, and I'm not like to see them, because I was a battle jogging for your question as well.

What? What up, man? Yeah, you, you might need to. I'll let you man Gunner. Y'all might need to pull up together on that type of shit. You know, I got my own thing.

I know, no, no. I hear you. I've been on the right east since 1998, sir. I don't know if you know that. Oh, hurt. But you know, right? I don't know if you know that.

You clap. No, you happen on you. You clap. You have been on the run for real. But you just was really, yeah. You was on the run for real way. Yeah, yeah.

But it makes sense, though, still. 20, 25 years later, it still makes sense. So, fuck it. You know, I'm running with it. I'm running with it. Yeah, literally, figured at least. That was the bad rap.

Yo, yo, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, but now, seriously, it's all the balance. You know what I mean? Like, all the balance. Like, I don't drink all the time. I'm drinking for y'all, even though I know you wasn't drinking. And all my up are, I've been, like, focused. And it's, you know, something I've got to balance with.

But, you know, I'm ahead of it. And being ahead of it is, like, I don't want to throw out my workouts, you know what I'm saying? So, like, if I run 10 miles, I don't want to go, I don't want to do nothing to fuck. I just want to look at everybody and say, better than you. I ran 10 miles. What did you do today? That's right. I don't say it, but I say it to my mind. I'd be like, yeah, motherfucker.

Yeah, and so that's my balance in life, you know what I'm saying? Everything. Right, that's dope. Yeah. So I'm going to take a shot for that. Take a shot for that. Yeah. I want to say, happy birthday.

It's my dad birthday, too. Happy New Year's my dad birthday, man. I want to say happy birthday. So what are you drinking? What is that you drink? Come on. Chill out. Slow this.

Slow that. What is that? What is that? I look like root. Yeah, you know, I'll be having, you know, I'll be conjuring. I'm putting it together. This is a secret concoction right there, you know what I'm saying? But it got good properties in it, you know, healthy.

And I'll add some ginger to it just now. You don't see Luxe like battles? Like, that shit became a big. Like, baby. No, like, he'll have like four. His sister, Tiff, she here, she, Tiff Lux. You see Tiff right there. She was holding, she holds, like, five different drinks, different colors and shit.

Like, you be like, now, let me get the drink. Yeah, yeah, at different points of the, at all the battle, you got to, like, yeah. That's kind of hell, though. You know, for shit, shit, you know, listen, I ain't with this thing almost every day. I still don't know what we're in the fucking drinks and shit. Right. Lots of pop up, we come up with a, with a duffel bag. Like, we pull up, here have a duffel bag, which is mad, you just hit, like, crinkling in there.

Like, the fuck going on and it didn't hit, it's an unzipped this shit. And it'd be mad, just different, unlabel. bottles and shit and like, they just talking to you, just mix his shit up. You know what I'm saying? You're an alchemist over there. Word.

See, that's just like that. See, people make fun of you for being like a black activist, but that's what they should make it. That's a good joke. The juice joke. Oh. The juice joke is a good joke. I know that they didn't really do their research when they like go like that. Like I'm like, I that's like seeing the person with glasses and calling them four

eyes. It's just like, it's like, it's a cliche. It's on the surface, yeah. They keep a surface level. It's low-hanging fruit. So when I when I hear, they say that, I'm like, I, I'm like, I'll Like, Lucks got this nigga. Like, you need more. Like, you need more. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's why, you know, I learned, too. Now, my health. Right, right. Show me different things creatively. Why? That's when I really started. Like, your last battle, you made him feel bad about his diet.

Yeah. You told him. You know, let's, I ain't ever heard him. It's like, you got to get your diet. Yeah, you got to get that shit to go. Wait, what you said? Big and a nigh. You might want to lay up the Biggie fries

or the cigarettes are packed you up. Oh. I got a double, Nick. Bitch, you'll be lucky you get the 55. You know, I'm sorry. But this is, you know, that was like... Life of death. Even killers got to pick the side.

Because you're like, you think about it. He got to stand on stage and think about it. Like, it's my diet correct. Yeah, yeah. He got to think about that. Like, that's what this shit is all the time, man. That's why this shit does make you live right, man. this shit we do

when you gotta get up there stand on business a motherfucker really looking at your whole life and then talking to a mirror display in front of the world like that shit

at the same time it's entertainment but it's educational at the same time because everybody watching and they're doing the knowledge too personally you know what I'm saying

but these are certain things that we know in life it's certain things that harmonized with right living and the other thing to harmonize wrong living you know what I'm saying

and then even if that That's just the playing field that we go in between. All I'm saying is when we battle in, right. That shit is that, that's, that's what we really, you know what I mean? That's what the whole thing is. Because if I'm telling you, we go to other levels, you know what I'm saying? We're living how we live in, you know, I can't say everything right now, I think. So let me ask you, like, is there ever a time either one of you, like, lost around?

And then how do you, like, I mean, obviously, you guys are about a rapper, so you understand that. Wait, what is this? Part, I'm by my phone. It looked like carrot juice. Yeah. Who's, that's for you? There's one for each y'all right there. Oh, carry juice?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, no, I ain't on it like that. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, check it out. I mean, fuck you be. Yeah, yeah. It's that, carry-jews, gong.

Take a sip first. Yeah, yeah. I'm drinking, sir. The real shit. Oh, yeah. I'm not a juice, a juice boss, man. We ain't a voice in, y'all. Yeah, wait a voice in, y'all.

No, no. It's just some shit you might take. And then we'd be like, oh, shit. I got it. It's carried. Yeah. Everybody keeps saying it. Yeah, I think.

Everybody keeps thinking what it is. Can we get the person that got it? Yeah, my wife made it. Oh, she did? Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. All of this.

Bro, my wife make that for you. All right. That's all you had to say. Yeah. You were interested me. I would have to go to go to you. All right. I like the balance here.

I like the balance. The balance. And they just started. We got you. Drink champs done leveled up. So anytime you ever lost around and you had to change it up or change it up for that next round, because I don't know, I don't know this. I don't know this, but I assume that all of y'all writes your stuff, right? But then some of it is improv, right?

Because I suppose the guy got on a purple sweater and you like that, even like Barney. But there's no way you could have pre-wrote that because you don't know where this outfit is, right? Right, right. So anytime you lost a round and then how do you bounce back over that? Like, what do you do? Like, do you still go with your written rhyme or how does that work?

Yeah, well, I still go with mine. I still go with mine. But what I do is, like, I'll prepare. I'll over-prepared, right? So if I have, say, the rounds, like there are three rounds, five minutes a round, right? it's a lot of fucking material too

like a lot of material right but I'll have six rounds but I have them in segments right so I'll possibly think of whatever it is that could be said that need to be said now I might not use it

in the structured round that I structured first but it just may happen that they bring this up or say something or something go left or something go right. And I'm able to put the the segment that I would have

probably be like 12 bars and I could just interchange the segments. That's what I do. But that's why I like, I don't like the, I don't write them. So when I make them in my head, it's easy for me to bounce it. To do the segments in that way.

Because it was like, I believe with your last battle with hit, man, he kept, bringing up the apartment situation, right? And it seemed like you had a rebuttal for that. Yeah. So was you already prepared that he was knew that he was going to say something?

No, of course. Yeah, of course. Like, who wouldn't? But that's why I said, yo, you can bring up the crib situation. I got tough skin. I could take it. But just don't mistake it for a money lack because here's something funny, scrap. Small New York apart. That shit worth more than your

houses. That's just the fact. So you can chuckle would laugh. But you know why it ain't no skin off my fucking back? Because I survived all this time living inside your mind. And we all know ain't no place in the world where it's more fucked up than that. You feel what I'm saying? That's all of those parts like

nigga, you got a defensively right as well. You know what I'm saying? So that happens all the time. That's crazy. You got an offensive rhyme, a defensive rhyme, and fluid rhymes to throw in. I mean, but that's why this became who they became.

You feel me? But you learn all that in the field you know what I'm saying and they they studying it too so once you like it's like

we got all of this to go off it's just who putting it together the best you know what I'm saying legit sports shit for real but when you talk about something

that was when you say something like yo you was laughing like in the car he was laughing right but it's all up for it like it's subjective

like you know you something might be funny to me and my niggies, like, a nigger might be like, man, I crack your fucking head wide open. And they'd be like, that's hilarious.

All right. So other niggas might take that as a threat. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, just like, yo, this thing is a funny nigga. Just depending on what you come up. Like, what you feel more, pause. Yeah. Perception is reality.

Well, us battle rapper, I feel like it's the most difficult thing to do because, you know, and this is up for debate, but I feel like I hear people artists be like, I think it was Joe, Fat Joe, and I'm,

on kids, shout out to both of them. It's my guys. And it was like, they was talking about, well, they think you know, how difficult it is to go make a hit record, like, right, or whatever. But then, on the flip side, I feel

like, yo, you know how difficult it is, to go up there and stand in front of 1,000, 2,000 people and in front of the whole world, right? With no music, right? So, like, when you got a record, you get a record,

people can help you with the record, people can pick the beat, you know what I'm saying? People could make you, to produce you, make the lyrics, mix your shit, make the record, make the record, you got to go up there

and got nothing, people can't, they can't there's no listening to no bob no melody and these is just like imagine the whole imagine the whole world just looking at you like go

imagine that imagine that they don't even know what you're about to say like you know what I'm saying so every time you go out there you're like they gotta like this shit I hope it you feel what I'm saying

as opposed to the fans coming in knowing what they're going to sing like, oh, I'm about to go hit my favorite now and it's like, I'm going to see my favorite person. And I don't know what's about to happen. I don't know what's about to happen. I'm going to see my favorite person, you know what I'm saying? So I feel

like that helps us grow with the kind of fan base we got too as well because they're fans of us. You know what I mean? You never been on a battle? Well, me on a battle. No, we have to a battle. Yeah, that's what I think that y'all don't get credit for

is the actual crowd. everything that they catch her on crowd when they say it, it's not, like, it's like being in the, going, listen to a football game and going to a football game. If you go to a football game, you realize why people is out there in the cold. And you're like, because it's exciting, you know what I mean?

That's the one thing that battle rap has never been caught. Like, the actual crowd, like, how they really, like, cheering with it, how they really standing out there. Like, the actual fans is really what battle rap has not got. You know what I mean?

The 30 people on stage, and it's always distracting. Yep. So it messes up that sound. But when you be at a battle, like, I won't have a battle with bus. I don't want, and we were in the cut, and they got bus. They got bus. A bus. They got bus.

I was on a battle, I was on a show. I was on some shit. He would definitely try. He was definitely sure. I've seen Bus, battered red cafe in the club. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but, you know, it was a drunk night. It was a drunk night.

But Bus was definitely, he was definitely, he was definitely, at the whole club. Y'all. Let's go, he definitely was. You know what I'm saying? Shout out the red. But to answer your question, and to reiterate that,

that's the one person, because you always get to hear the crowd from, like, the emcees. Like, you know, when you got their mic right here. Imagine, like, the person that's smart enough to capture that actual crowd. Like, you know how even, like, a person, like, even if they have, like,

a person in there, like, in there, like, in there because, you know how, like, Sometimes the NBA, they'll mic a player. And then you get in, where they definitely need the mic fans and really hit. You know, when you hear it, person, like, that's a good idea. Yeah. You don't work that thing. And you hear somebody, you'll work them.

You hear that guy? That guy needs to be taped up. You know what I'm saying? And my last battle with hip man, though, like, I kind of think, shout out the TBL. That's the league that put the battle on, man. Shout to the takeover battle league. in that last battle though they did a good job

with the sound because you can hear people in the crowd when they were paying like you could hear different ones but in that it's actually dope because you get to rewind and more because you hear somebody say one thing

in the crowd and then you be like yo but he said something else too and they all talking like at the same time you feel what I'm saying? That's what he makes that shit That's what makes it It's the fans It's like

And like when y'all say your lines And then you can stop And then you just see the fans Just say that shit for y'all Like that shit is like some For lack of a better term That's some real cult shit Mm-hmm

That's a real They say it again Like they do this Right? They do this right When you talk about the Like when you say you say a line A bar right

And there's fire They want to do it again Right That's the same That's the signal That's the thing That's the thing to do it again So then when you say it

the line again, they all say it with you. You feel me? Oh, I see, that's the part. That's the participation. Yeah, you got to capture that part. That's the participation. So that's also talking to the fact of what I'm like, yo, they come there to see, listen to music,

and they hear a hit record. They want to sing along to it. The better rep fans, like they want to, but they're there for you. But when they hear the ball, that's why they go so crazy. Like, say they get us now they know it and they get to say it.

They feel like they're part of it. Absolutely. Interactive. It's like you come in the roof of your team or something. It's like, everybody, you know what I mean? I can respectfully say I got the best fans. I'll give it up to me out there. I believe it.

I think that I think that y'all could battle in the pouring rain. Shit, we did. Really? I mean, that's what we should. started out like that. I'm talking about a high level. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Like, a high level, like, you know, like, with Portland, like, you can throw it in

fucking Thailand and the battle is big enough. I believe that people are standing. Yeah, I believe that stand there. They're standing there to get that. How many battle leagues are there right now? You're innumerable at this point. Really? That what, what, how many is that?

It's what you, how many is that? It's enumerable. He said, you can't even count. Yeah, it's, it's, but how many, like, top tier, legit. Right. Right. That y'all consider like these are the top tier ones. I mean, you could count it on one hand for real. Yeah.

Because Homeboy that you just battled, he named all of these leagues that you didn't battle. So, because I don't think you directly address that. So can you address it here because I'm wondering, okay, all right, cool, maybe they didn't have the bag for him, right? Right, right. But let me not speak for you. Right. Okay.

No, I've been in discussions with some of them leagues that he named. Okay. You know what I'm saying? And, yeah, probably certain at different times, either they, the business wasn't all the way right or may have been the artist that they was looking for me to, you know what I mean? So it's a lot of different things. But what was simple for him to do is, it's easy, though.

It's like, oh, hey, you ain't battling none of them leagues. So I'm going to name all of them leagues. Okay. At the same time, though, we're battling, you know what I'm saying? But, yeah, yeah, you don't battle on, and it's timing, you know what I mean? That's really what it comes down to. So we ain't ducking no smoke. It's just that a dude may want a battle

And then who does the battle Like which league do the battle That becomes a thing But see me, I just I kind of stick through the script Like a lot of my battles We were smack You know what I'm saying?

You know, not to say I'm against doing With other leagues I didn't battle an Arsenal league Like, you know, this shit just got a line up You said you ain't battling your own league Yeah With that true? Yeah, that's the fact

Listen, man, All this shit, man, we put this shit to go. I was like, I'm a CEO. But his lead made all, a lot of these top-tier battle rappers that you see down. Wow. You know what I mean? Now, me, personally, like, I got this, wherever the bread at.

You know what I'm saying? Like, not for real, these guys, like, the bag, and then we, we good. Uh-huh. You know what I mean? But, like, I just seen a battle league. I've seen where were they

the Philippines right it's it's thousands of people they're saying she like I don't understand in their language right but they up they go

you know and I know where that where they got that influence from you know what I mean I know definitely what was so funny right there because you know why

when you say in these other leagues you said Thailand when I'm watching the Philippines excuse me when I'm watching your battle I watched the whole link So I watched these other people battle

And then I heard Drake say the UK emcees Are like, you know, better than The Americans American emcees And I started to think I thought that was way too far fetch Right?

That part. But when I looked at They battle rappers It's nothing funnier Than a dude having a ball In an English accent That's funny You know, man

This guy Just kidding This kid comes out pretty hard. Yo, you like, yo, you can't lie to you, bro. I think it's sound of like Sherlock Holmes. You said, yo, yo, you know, you said Sherlock Holmes. Yo, I was like, oh, that's a break me. Like, yo, no, you never seen that shit?

No, I mean, we just was dead. The UK is lit, though. Like, they don't know. That shit is hell, you know. They're really in tune, bro. I was watching that shit. They really in tune. We was just out there.

Like, we just went, we just came from out there. Like, they in tune, right? And, and they know, yeah, they know their shit. Right. They know their shit. Now, of course, I'm, you know, I'm going to be where we're from. Yeah, of course. But that shit out there, yeah, that shit out there is crazy.

But, um, me and Lux, like the, uh, you saw the shit we deal with Nigel? Sylvester, shout out to Nigel. Oh, yeah, y'all's the night shit. The Jordan shit, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, he was at the battle, too. Yeah, he was actually at the battle in London, yeah. Okay, wow. But that was for his sneaker that dropped, it's, um, the brick-by-brick.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, um. The burgundy one, right? The burgundy one. The burgundy one, okay, I got those. Hot and sneaker. Yeah, so I want to make sure, I'm going to make sure. I said the other ones. The brick-by-bris.

Oh, got you know, I don't need, I ain't got those that. I'm always going, my boy. Oh, you see? But the camera, yeah, I ain't got, though. Oh, yeah, hold on. These are joys. These do joints. Okay, okay.

These do joys, man. I'm flat for it. I don't know if we can pull those off. No, I'm glad to put it. Okay, okay, okay. But yeah. People are queens, though, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, no.

I was about to say, you know that. You know that. You know that. I was about to say that. But, you know, you know, what we did, he, he, he, he, he, he, he was dope. Right. He wanted us. First, he came to us, like, as fans from the door, as a fan, you know, out of that respect.

But he wanted us to display what it is we do with the essence is of battle rap, but put it in a theatrical sense, you know what I mean, like a player. Oh, shit. Yeah. You know what I mean? So me and Lux, what was that, three weeks? Yeah, we didn't think three weeks. We came up with the whole premise of just how to make it. And chronicle his mindset.

Him as a young kid, him and his own thoughts. It's to him being successful, but not no... Like, you know, when you young, you're ignorant to shit. Like, you know what I mean? You just be like... I'm not only that. Professional biker is not that popular in the neighborhood. Right.

Like, you know, just riding a BMX bike. That's something different. He's a professional bike. Right. Yeah, for sure. You know what I mean? And he wanted us to show the world that I, you know what I'm saying? I just wanted to shout him out.

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But the writing, though, you know what I'm saying? After people get past, you know, just battle rappers, right? You know what I'm saying? And really get past, you know what I'm saying, but at the same time that we come from that background, from that culture, from that space to the culture, you know what I'm saying? At the lowest, the premise of it all is writing, right? It's taking these ideas and formulating them in a certain space in a certain way.

Isn't that dinner that you did And yeah I was going back and forth That was that Yeah So again That's a great segue Right

Because that's something That I was very concerned Seeing y'all right Like all right Like all right Like cool But there's white people in there right

I don't know Like oh shit Yeah yeah Oh there's it about to be kicked out Like you know what I'm saying Like how You know what I'm saying Like when you write

A battle rap You're writing it for that particular audience right Then when you're writing a rap You're writing it for that particular audience Right How do you write a rap like that

For this for everybody to make everybody understand. So how I knew you was getting into that, but I wanted to, like, particularly. I mean, I don't think it's... You don't think it's hard at off? I don't think it's right now when you say for everybody, like when you're like, you know, it's white people there, right?

Because you're good. All right, huh? Put it on the mic, yeah. You know, let me take a set. Let me take a set so I could set the table. I just happened to be holding you could set the table on the A. the B side let's put that on the record player

that's first of all A is better than B side so he's saying I'm better than you I'm Jordan or whoever else Hey we used to talk about hey What's that player and let's put that on the record meaning that stating it as a fact And also we're putting it on the record player

Cuset record player I think it's a kid You know You don't know You're going to use that clip We'll use that clip Yeah yeah yeah yeah Uh huh

That's a man yeah we're going to use that quick i got you i'm just saying you know when you say yo it's white people there like it's and now i'm just saying like you know um like let me put that for a better term like uh like corporate some people won't get it you know like they won't some people won't even get the back and forth you know what i'm saying like

that's the beauty of it though the beauty of it is how to portray that right like how to make everybody that's the part of them i love puzzles right right i love like making putting the pieces to uh making the pieces fit right so like we'd be there and we're like shit i know this bar i could say this

but how do we get it and that's that's the love of it all you know what I'm saying getting in that space and then once you win there go we in them channels and then from there it's just it's divine

shout out Rizza right Rizzo was up here, right? Yep. I believe he's drinking his sake right now. Oh, you're a shout out to Rizzo. Yeah, yeah. Shout out the Rizzo. That's the cold.

Yeah, yeah, cold shit. I've been turned out since. Ever since he came here, he told me this is the only alcohol that's the upper. Yeah, I felt like shit because I was drinking the hour. I felt like we got to have the sake, right?

Being safe. Oh. You want to have a shot? You look at a shot with you. Yeah. I'll have a shot with you. Yeah. I mean, you said Ritz.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what he got. Before we move on, before we move on, remember you were saying Rizzer. So, yeah. But before we move on, we want you to know our show was about giving people their flowers. You know you've been on here before, but we've got to officially give you all your flowers

to your face. I think you're in the man. Let y'all know what I'm saying. How special you all are to the game. You don't get this last shot. Yeah. Yeah. Bye.

Thank you, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because not, you know, y'all, well-deserved, man. I appreciate it, bro. You know, um, appreciate it. Um, I really, I really, I really, uh, I really, I really, what? What, what he? Huh?

I know. Yeah. I really respect y'all, man. This dude, Sonny's crazy, bro. I'm going to do this shit together, Sonny. Of course. I, yeah, I know. Hold on it.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, man, I really respect y'all. Hey, but buggy, it's out. Come on. Hey, my brother, Eric, we have to see Eric in a minute. Happy birthday, Eric. Y'all, thank you for a lot.

Happy you here. That's not. That's not. That's fine. Yeah. That's right. Snoop said it's better than the Grammy because it's coming from his people. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, listen, you know, I know I'm cool with both of y'all. You know what I'm saying. But it's just like me being cool with Buster or me being cool with Nyes.

The fact that I'm cool with them doesn't take away from the fact that my fans, fan of street you know my fandom you know what I'm saying like I'm a fan of y'all and I know how hard it is like you know what I'm saying like for me like even in the rap game like you know I like to consider myself like maybe a B minus like you guys always been in the A game you know what I'm saying like it's very hard to continue that spot it's very hard to maintain that spot it's very hard to even get there you know what I'm saying and the fact that y'all stayed there for all these years it's the fact that you got to be saluted you got to be told and you got to know that what you're doing ain't normal It's shit, it's special, bro.

Why would you consider yourself a B minus, though? No, no, no, no. Because that's how I wake up in the morning. I got, I'm driving you, you know what I'm saying? Let me get, I'll get a shout of a song. You get a shot at a lot. You liked it on the episode. Yeah, but I also liked it too much in that episode.

I never would expect you to say, like, did it. No, you know what's crazy about EFN? You know what's crazy about EFN? That was a lot, brother. You know what's crazy about EFN? Let me take you something. EFN, like, right before he gets drunk, that's the best. But once he gets just too drunk, he says, fuck you to everybody.

Hey, man, fuck. I'm like, you know, as soon as he said. Throw it all out the window at that point. He'd be like, no. Why didn't even send that to blame? That's the only thing that's the only thing about, like, not drinking is because you can't blame shit on being drunk. Oh, really?

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, you got away with masks. You know, I was fucking drunk. Like, I was stupid. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, Mrs. Drinks. Yeah. As soon as you said Buster and Red Cafe, um,

you said, It was the drug night. Mm-hmm. That's a disclaimer. So, so, let me ask you, right? What is your favorite part of battle rap, right? What is the part, like, that's your favorite? Is it researching your opponent? Is it you hitting that stage in the crowd?

Like, what is the one part of battle rap you can't live without? Both of y'all. Sorry, a pretty tough question. No, I, it's, You want, like, it's a few. Okay. Yeah. But, okay.

The first, the first reaction I get from the crowd, that's my favorite part. Right. Yeah, it's going to mind. First reaction, because when you, see, I'm nervous before every single battle. Even if it's coin flip. What you mean? Like, you know, you know, yeah, coin flipping. You say he'd go first.

Yeah. Are you nervous then? When do you get nervous? I'm, I'm nervous all, when I get nervous? Yeah. All the way up until the battle. Okay.

Wow. Right? All the way up until the battle. But so when I, even when I'm going out there, like I'm nervous all the way until what the first line it is that I say hits. Mm-hmm. And once I get a reaction, all the nerves go away

and then it just becomes it becomes just autopilot it becomes what you somewhere like this is a fight and it's the first hook that you land now that I get I get a gauge on

on how it is I got to perform what I got to say how I got to say where I got to live what they're going to fuck with what they're not you know what I mean

and so but also though the writing up until the writing because yeah because that part it's like it's you when you get a line I always look up like man that didn't come from me you imagine you get a line and then do that and then for the other person

because you got to think about another nigga for that long bro. Yo. You don't hate that shit, you know. Y'all do not know. Yo.

Snick's trying to put me on the phone with a nigger. I was like, what did you do? No, I was trying to get you the money. I was trying to get you to bread, bro. I don't want to talk. I'm like, why you put me on the phone

with this dick. I'm like, yo, nigga, they're trying to get you some money. Fuck that thing. You told, I became his manager right at that point. You know what I'm saying?

Like, I said, like, I said, fuck it. I'll do it. I don't say it, but thinking about another nigga for that long, bro, like, like, you got to... That's boxing shit. Yeah, man. That's why when you box a person, they either love each other after the mat or they never speak to each other again. Is it like that with battle around? Well, not now.

I think battle, it will depend on who you battle. I'm going to say that. But for the most part, with me, it didn't make me tighter. I say cooler with my opponents. It's because after that, there's a, and it sound crazy, but there's an intimate thing that happens in that space. You know what I mean? This is why enemies could be closer than friends sometimes.

Yeah, because y'all studied each other so long. You understand? You're in a certain space. So that shit is, it goes other places. So you know how they said a fisherman could see another fisherman from afar. So it's like once we don't. doesn't that dance. I didn't know how they said that.

Yeah. You know what she'd teach me all that shit. Once you do that dance, though, with somebody, it's like, yeah, once we get here, it's like we know, we know what we endured, you know what I'm saying. And with the war together. They went to war against each other, excuse me. Yeah, but it's like a dance. Together, you know what I'm saying?

It's a shared experience. That part. And that's the shit where it's like, man, that's where it's elevated. And that's why I really feel personally, man. I ain't going to lie, man. being this thing to be having this, this debate, but I'd be wanting to see some of y'all innings battle, man.

All right. Oh, no. I'm saying, you're personally, you know what I'm saying? But it would be kind of dope. It would be kind of dope to see certain points to where there's another elevated level. You know where it'd be dope to? Like, I, you know Norrie's a fan of it.

You know Boss is a fan of it. You know motherfucking Eminem is a fan of it. No Drake's a fan of it. You know meth. fan of me. If we were to really sponsored artists that we thought and said, yo, we're sponsoring them. This way, y'all don't have to go to the certain leagues

and we can, like, you know, you know what I'm trying to say? Like, we would have sponsored the event ourselves and we would have owned it ourselves. That would have been a great thing, you know what I mean? A lot of us who who's been platinum, ain't going to really put their title on the line, but you know what? What title? If you love it, you know what title?

No, no, no, no. No, no. Nah, we got to chill with that. Yeah, no, no, no. Because our title is on the line every time. Yeah, yeah, true. That's the part, right? You, nigger can't just get the accolade and then be like, all right, I did this.

Yeah, that's like a nigga not of defending the belt. Yeah, that's how they feel, though. Like, they feel like, that's why a lot of people won't battle, you know what I mean? It's because they feel like they're going to just, it'll be the end of their career. But that's to other battle.

I feel like they got more to lose than game. No, to other, like, I'm not saying, don't, I'm not saying battle other battle rappers, right? What I'm saying is, right? Like, yeah, math. Nigel, we know how niggas, we know how niggis be feeling about right. Each other.

All right. You feel me? Like, we ain't going to be like that. Like, you know what I'm saying? The closest thing we came to this, what he's saying is probably what? Cannabis and Joe Bunner did it. No. Cannot.

Cannabis and Joe Bullets. But they battle, battle rappers. Right, but I'm saying, you're talking on, yeah, yeah. I'm saying the closest thing that's the closest thing to them saying, them getting in the ring and doing it. Well, I'm right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm talking about two niggas that got the same amount of shit to lose, right? That's what I'm talking about.

I'm not saying going there battle a battle rapper that's probably, you know what I'm saying? No, battle rap, let a battle rap, a battle. They make good an equal match. Yeah, yeah. But that's what we said, fab and base. That's what we say. But I think the ego's so high on that end. Yeah.

But that ego shit. No, you're right. I think that once you've been in that, that world, that ego is like hard. That's the problem. To them? Yes, to them. That's the problem. That's a problem you're never going to be able to solve.

Yeah. How is that an ego? If they feel like they said it in the other one. I'm just telling you. Right? The closing thing you're going to get to is versus. And versus is, you know, obviously people performing their records that's already made. Right.

And it's not, it's all up to the fans. But what it is is people who think that like, I'll just be an honest with you. If you get a, uh, if you get a, uh, If you get a Method man against a Capadonna, right? You know, they go from Wu-Tang. One would feel like, you know, one is more important than the other in the group. Like, it's just something just things like that. Yeah, but that's just in the group.

All right. What about, all right, all right, yeah. Remember, they had that shit, right? Game, first of all, game, shout out the game. Game told me, I can't believe you, game. He's like, yo, I said something that was hot that he did and I was like, yo, something you need the battle rep. And he's like, but Mook, I'm a better.

better rap than you by like 3%. Right? He had a percentage and everything. He said like 3%. Right? He said he a better better rapper to be, right? Cool. Okay. But what I'm saying

is that's how, he's saying he's a better battle rapper than the nigga. Game is a hip-hop, nigger. Game is a rap, nigga. Meek is it imagine they both had shit to lose the same, right? Right.

Y'all both talking to shit, nigga, get the fucking Go in there. Y'all think you go rap better than them. But I don't believe meek ever went back at game. I believe I could be wrong. I believe it was just one side. Oh, there's no ego.

There's no ego. See, what you're talking about. There's no one better than the group. These are two totally different people from two different areas. No, but what I'm saying, respond to game, I don't think, at all. Oh, you probably ain't. Well, I don't know.

I don't know. I just know they had their little issue. I'm just throwing whatever. Jeter Kiss and beans, right? I don't like to see that battle. Right? Beans was at a battle And beans rapped

Acapella And it sounded like Yeah It was like some shit Yeah Kiss One of my favorites Nobody going

That would say Nothing crazy about him So Kiss be talking that shit too Right Right It ain't no one Feel better than the other

Now who's about to get in here And get busy And That's how we go That's a perfect example You say in kiss Like, you know, and God bless both of these groups. But after, you know, verses, like, Dipset has not been the same.

You know what I'm saying? Like, like, that's just a perfect, that's just a perfect example. That's just a perfect example. Camelow angry at me. Camel of him had a thing. I was going for dipset. He was going, I said, I said a lot. So I'm going to keep in all of them.

But I was going to lie. I was being a little creep that day. And I was, I'm keeping it everywhere. I'll keep it a hundred. I call all six of them. I call I call Cam and I call Jim I call Jim

I'm pretty cool and be like yo good luck but I'm also being nosy like fuck that right shit I earned this right yeah so I call and the only this is how I knew

I indicated the locks would be victorious and this is the reason why wherever Jew else was that wherever Cam was at and wherever Jim was that I don't remember, but I remember they weren't together.

I called Kiss and hung up and called Stiles, and Stiles like, nigger, I'm right here. And I'm like, wait a minute. And then they were all at rehearsal. That's the preparation. And that was the only indication because I'm not going to lie. For people from out of town, they didn't understand, you know, the dipset locks camaraderie.

They didn't understand what that meant for the city and for a lot of people it was a nationwide national group but for New York those groups

meant more to us in New York you know what I'm saying and I knew how important that battle was that was the first time Yeah

that was the first time I was gauging watching the TV the game is all Jason he's pointing at them you know the jury is faking

none of him you know all that naked like I come on now we know what you know it was, more now,

the part was crazy when Juell's, like you knew that they, they, that was battle rap too, like when they

thought of everything. They thought that you were like, I don't know if they rehearsed that one, like one of them going to say, we don't like girls

or something, but one of them were going to say that we don't got girl records. And it was like the DJ was ready. Yo,

like he was like, you know, give tech a raise. Yeah. Yeah. They got a gift of rape. That's been out. He got.

It almost seemed like Jewels was on their side with you all said that. He was like, yo, y'all don't like, got a girl back in the show. And Jayden was like, yeah, of course you do. I'm like, what the fuck? I didn't know. I didn't feel like they hurt that.

Like, I'm like, yo, man, you else might take a bag on the side. You know, me. Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, Kevin. You know what I'm saying? You know, you didn't care. You went in the air? You went, you went with the rock, right? No, me and him.

No, listen. No, listen. No, listen. No, listen. I was a fan of them first, right? Right. Before Dipset. Remember, the locks was before them.

Right? Uh-huh. So I was just, I was a fan. I was fucking with them first. And that's the, you know what I mean? So it being Harlem, of course, it's always Harlem. Yeah. You know, personal, like, you know what I'm saying?

But we ain't being personal here. Right. I'm just going with, what I feel like. He's going off the craftsmanship, the skill set. And, you know, I just feel like that get me in trouble sometimes. Right. I do that a lot.

Like, I'll give you an example, right? I'm a, I'm a LeBron James fan to the core. Okay. Right. Never hung up with LeBron, probably one time in my life, right? Uh-huh. But me and KD got cool, right? KD.

Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant, right? But he came in the league after LeBron. but me and him got like cool cool right I seen him at your battle or something or you said y'all was hanging out or something yeah yeah we always fuck around that's my dog you know what I'm saying shout to him shout out to Tony right

um but so early on it's cool but then when he started getting better and shit right but I'm still championing LeBron right putting LeBron up with the shit right now it comes into the season of

him being MVP right now it's like Yo, who better LeBron And I'm, you know, I'm just still Put LeBron

and shit champion and stay in LeBron Nick of Corby one night like two of the board it Like I'm like Yo, what up? He's like,

you're just going to keep Just go keep on post to this nigga Like you just You think Braun better than me I'm like, I heard from that

nigga two years After that girl I'm like, I'm like, damn, bro. I'm like, there I got me in trouble, but it's like, I fuck with LeBron first, even, you know what I'm saying? That's just what it is, bro.

Like, man, loyalty as far as, like, you my nigger, like, you know, if LeBron front on you or something, you know what I mean, we might got to jump LeBron or something, but, you know, but just don't hit him, don't hurt him. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Let's still be able to play. But, um, no, but, um, yeah, so I feel like, you know,

that kind of give me in trouble a lot, you know what I mean? So with that, So Kim was seen me I see Kim and Progola I'm like right after that You know what I'm saying After the dip set of The dipset locks

And um You know he just like You know Like it was like a I'm like come on man You know what I'm saying He's like no I know you shit You was good

You know you know Kim Like no it's a side That's good You know That's my dog and shit Real shit That's that spirit of competition I wanted to continue about

with Rizza, man, because we was in that talk because Rizza it was a movie Rizza shot. It's called he directed it and I think he wrote so it wrote it as well

Love meets rhymes It came out some years I'm not really remember probably like 8, 7 it had to tell you Remember when the Talia Banks? Yeah, I remember. And she's not going to wild and shit.

I guess she for a while. Around the movie, around when he put it out. Around the movie, right? Yeah. But their, Meph was in it, too. Who she was flipping on? Robert Downey Jr. or somebody? Russell Crow.

Russell Crow. He do look racist, though. I ain't going to lie. I'd say he is. Allegedly. I mean, a Crow is black. Crow is black? Right?

No, Russell Crow is not black. No. He's saying that. But he clearly is not, sir I was just saying you can't have something black in your name and then be raped. Anyway, but nevertheless. Yeah, it's a lot of racist black man.

No need. White people named black, black. I was talking about like, you see, that's a battle rap thing, right? Yeah, well. Okay. A crow black can't have, be racist with a black last name.

Right. So that's just a battle. right you know what I'm saying just a metaphor of being black and having crow but and Jim like this see it's a lot of different games and he's going to the battle around my

but the movie he called and he's like yo I want you to write all of the the wraps for the movie for everybody and I think this was John David Washington first

first film you know um and Denzel son you're saying Yes, Denzel's son And he had Seen in the beginning They start off with battles

You know what I mean Shot up with gin He had gin in there People from the coaches Yeah, Corey Yeah, he was a rough guy He's from out here from South Florida Okay, yeah

But 30s from Queens I mean he's from Miami He came up in Miami No he came out of here man Okay my bad Yeah Y'all can have a mother

Like, now, we know that. I'm a man. Wait, now, we know him. He, he called it and I wrote all of the raps, the battle raps for

all of the, everybody, all of the different characters. So you're saying you wrote Poisea Banks? Yeah. I wrote her rhymes. I wrote the other.

Only purple rhymes I didn't write was Lux and Corey Guns. You know what I mean? But everybody else. But I had to write from a whole bunch of different perspectives but I had to write for battles they had battles and on the beats

as well I had to write for a girl how she gonna feel like then I had to write for a white guy how he going feel like then I had them write for you know what I'm saying? A Chinese guy you know what I mean? Just so many different and I feel like that's what the creativity

I'm not y'all got knackles back there Yeah, no, I just feel like being creative, that part is the challenge also in being battle rapper, but being gifted in it, you know what I mean, being a gift, to be able to do that lyrically. You can write for the different perspectives. Right, but make it all coincide with the storyline that we're trying to keep up. I said this, no You're ready to Crick Thomas Love?

You're ready to be Crick Thomas Love? You know, I don't take a piss, man. You need to watch that movie. No, because I'm scared of Ozia Fats. Why are you still in Zia? He goes crazy. I'm a big fan on Twitter. You know what?

She's still in Twitter? Yeah, yeah. She still been killing chickens and shit? I don't know. I don't know about that one. But do y'all go on Black Twitter? That's the best shit in the world. Nah.

If there's Twitter than it's black Twitter I'm saying I'm paying a black Twitter Whenever I'm having Like too much of a good day And I need to like Settle down

You know you need to carve down Sometimes I need to carve yourself down I just post the bitching me And somebody say you bitch ass nigga Like damn I need nothing wrong I can say hi And someone negative

But it lowers me down the earth Like I'm like I'm like you know what That's what somebody in the world thinks about you So, you know what I mean? Don't get too full of yourself. I kind of like it.

I kind of like, but I only do it when I'm at the most high. Like, when I'm feeling the best in life, just to calm down a little bit, like, I post, I post like a baby picture. And, like, it's nothing for nobody to hate on. And they were like, fuck that baby. I'm like, damn. Just remind you how much more work you got to do the world. I remind how much work has to be done in the world. And I look at this person page.

I'm like, look at this miserable guy. It's like, you know what I'm like, go on black Twitter. Like, what is that? I'm playing. It's just, like, the only people I follow it. It's just, like, they call it black Twitter. They call it black Twitter. How do you get there, though?

Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? You just got to tighten. They'll find you. Just take more Twitter. Don't worry about it. You know, I sure it sound like you're talking about some shit. I just learned it was porn on Twitter.

Is it hardwarks or something? Listen, I'll just be honest with you. I got to, I got to fix who I'm following. I said, what? Because who you follow and controls your algorithms? And my algorithms be loose sometimes. I'm just being honest. I'm like, yo, I got to control.

And I, I'm blaming on my friends. I blame it on who the people I follow because sometimes it comes up a little crate. That's real shit. So, I'm going to play quick time. I'm going to wait for EFIN, right? Hell yeah. Oh, damn. And you got, um, has?

You got the shit? I got the engine. All right, cool. Come on, man. Come on, bro. Come on, bro. Yeah, I'll hold it down. You go, you know, you can fill me up?

I hold it down. Holy shit. All right, so you know how this game go. We'll ask you two questions. All right, yeah, please explain the game. I'll take another socket shot, please. Okay. That's what I'm talking.

Okay. Okay. Stop. All right. The block. You really crushed that ginger up that for real. Like, firsthand, it's a friend. They need a few of time with this shit.

Well, let's go have a shot, right? Double shout or two. Sonny, you want to drink with us? Yeah, Sunny, come on, Sonny, drink with us. Honey been drinking red wine, bro. Let him take a shot of red wine. Sonny, come on, man. Oh.

All right, well, anyways, we don't give you. We didn't play quick time with them last time? I don't believe so. We didn't do this? Quick time of slime? No, no, no. All right, we're going to give you two choices. If you pick one, we don't drink, right?

but if you said they just be acting like they don't know this I just oh I know I know okay I know You don't know we just You're just going with emotions Stop third time here But like we just thinking you need to know You didn't play this game

This game is relatively You played this game? Yeah But we watch the show Okay You'd be surprised how many people say we watch the show They don't know what the fuck we're talking about That's true

I promise we always do this later on in the show So and we never explain it right in anyway So All right All right well then y'all know man All right. And we want stories from this. Yeah, you've got these stories, of course.

Um, are you ready? Let's go. Cupcake, can I get a shot for last one? Big Al. Hold on, hold on. Did you call her cupcake? Yeah, bro. Please, please not.

That's not her name, bro. It's a word of, sir. I don't like that. The name is not a cupcake, my brother. This shit is like a shot of a window. It is. And wheatgrass and suit. This is a good way to all right.

We grass. We got grass. Give them all those shots. You mean wheatgrass. Yeah. The bathroom's right there. That's the one thing about weedgrass. It does one through you.

All right. So you're ready? You're ready? All right. Look, ready? Big L or DMX? Oh, Big L. That's a snapetop.

I'm going with DMX. I think we got to take a shot if they disagree. They're going to do that the whole time. We're going to do that the whole time. No, no, no. I don't think we are. No, no, no. All right.

You got it or me? Okay. Jay Z or Nas? Yeah. Nas. Nas. Me. It's going to sound like we did.

Jay Z. Okay. That's fun. Common or cube? Who? Common or cube? Ice cube. I'm going to go with common.

That's me. all right so explain the game whatever is your criteria whatever is your criteria it's whatever criteria for you you want it yeah yeah it don't mean better rapper anything it's just maybe you you know you know one better

the other one made better tacos for you one day I don't know whatever the fuck yeah that's what I'm like all right whatever criteria it's whatever criteria for you individually oh okay but if we speak the same we drink or if yeah If you don't pick or you say both, meaning you really don't want to answer.

You don't want to pick one. We drink it. Yeah. See, I told you, people don't ever understand our explanation of this shit. I'm going to go. You're drinking, okay. So you say both or is that neither? That's both.

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Oh, so they both. They answer. I love disaster, whatever to see it. It's out of the disaster. Sirius Jones or hollow to dawn? Hollow. Hollow I'm gonna take a shot for hollow

How about that? Yeah, definitely for Hollow to dawn Queens get the money Yeah shit rum though they're you on the rock Yeah, shut out Sonny's a new

Charlie Clips Sunny take it easy We need to be in holler Clips Clips Clips I just call in Eminem or Buster Rhams

Ooh Um You know what to do That's tough A lot of stuff I would say Don't answer for them people Who is terrible

Yeah yeah I do what we do And then Sunny goes You know what to do Like what to do Like what the fuck is I mean Saddy

You said he's like You know what to do I gotta get bad I gotta get plenty of money I got a great idea for you Sonny knock ahead whatever you

whatever you're gonna explain it too whatever you want to explain you know it's like Eminem is my here go this shit give me a trouble again right

I'm a Sagittarius bro I just I don't know like right Eminem is just my favorite like rapper rapper right like

I just feel like nobody in the world could, like, rap better than him. You know what I'm saying? That's how I... That's just... I've been like that for a sense how my name is, right?

Right. But Buster is bro and Buster rap his ass off too and I hang with Buster all the time, right? I don't think Buster's a better rapper than him, but I think

you can make it easy for yourself to say both he wants to explain his brain is too smart not to explain you see what's going through you don't see him you can live I don't think so he's not a racket in his mind right now but Buster has influenced me more

so I'm going to say both I just didn't say that I was already teaching from my time. It's something like, won't to me. You gotta give a little bit of. This just goes to show, though. I want to add on to what you say.

I think Eminem is one of the best lyricists there is, and I think that when it comes to verses, the only person that can face him is Buster Rye. Mm. Yeah, because Buster's the best performer, hands down in the universe. Ritartartedly crazy. Yeah.

Now, that shit, fuck, you know. Buster's so mad at me one time, I went to go see Buster perform. And I think he wanted me to get on stage And I was like, no, nigga, I'm here to watch you And I left and he was like Yo, what the fuck type of shit was there? I was like, I'm a fan!

I don't want to be norie sometimes. He didn't get mad at you, though. He called me. I jumped up the car. I wanted to smoke anyway, and I couldn't smoke, so I turned to the car. And I was like, just let him flip on me. I was like, all right, cool. I was like, you got to understand sometimes.

I just want to watch my friend destroy the fucking stage. Like, believe it or not, It takes away sometimes you getting backstage and you know what I mean you're getting that different wristband. I'm okay being a like Yeah, disrespect. I went to see Nause and Moutang

I was in Paris. They happened to be in Paris. I went as a motherfucking fan. They had to literally call me offstage. You know what the fuck are you doing? I was like, man, I'm being a fucking fan. Right. I was, the only thing I asked was like, you don't have no anybody else around my chair. That's it. That's it.

Everybody else, I took a picture with everybody who came up to me, I did it. But I stood there when the show started, I was like, who did, dang, I was jumping up and down. I was like, fuck, no, I didn't know. I forgot who the fuck I was right. Right, no, that's how you're supposed to go.

That's how I am when I watch y'all's motherfucking battle, too. Thank you, thank you, thank you. It's already a couple of moments, but I'm like super fan moment. All right, yeah, that was a rough one. Harris won, a cool G-Rap. I must, I'm a, I, I'm going to coogee rap. I'm going to coogee rap.

That's crazy because you can't. R.S. 1, I'm going to go. I got a cushion. All right. Drake or Kendrick? Oh, Kendrick. He's like I was still in all of a question. He got to disagree.

It's in his nature. No, he's in his nature. Kendrick. He disagreed with you. Kendrick. Okay, for real? Yeah, yeah, Kendrick. We're craftsmen, man.

We really, these questions really mad at us, though. Yeah, I know. No, yeah. I know. Oh, shit. Or Dr. Dre? Mm. Nah, Dre.

You said Easy E or Dr. Dre? You said Easy E or Dr. Dre? Yeah, y'all can't do that. Who, who? Let's take a shot, but I'm not being able to do that. Yeah, all right. Yeah, yeah, that was. Come on, Lutz.

Let's take a shot, but I'm not being able to do that. You know, Dr. Drey, baby, do that. Saloo, man, this is to y'all. This is to y'all. That could be a valid question. Someone might be more into Easy because he started the label that put Dre on. Nah. I mean, did I speak about it?

I got way more to go off with Dr. Tray as well. No, I hear you, but there might be somebody that might. I have people here to say, now, easy is the beginning of that tree, so I'm going to say easy. But we. But somebody wrote his rat. No, but you're thinking. He said, Ice Cube, that I said, I thought that was the hardest rhyme ever.

Like, I still give him the award. Right. He, he, he, you know, he said that, though. Ice Cube writes the rhymes that I say, how did I hear that and still respect him? That's right. I look for that. Nice.

He was his old thing. No, I mean, I love EZE. You know what I'm saying? But you're thinking this as just him rapping. You could think of it any way you want. No, but even, even, even, even, even, I think any outside of that. Well, he passed away. We don't know.

know what it could have been you know what I'm saying if he's right like if Richwater rap that's what there would have been like to the East Coast Nah yeah

Richwater would rap Because what you heard like Easy was really in the streets Right right right right Yeah yeah

Like really Right Like really I see okay You know what I'm saying I see you with that He can't I want to say

Apple I'm gonna kill you bad you know You know I got Okay Coom O D or Busy B this is very safe

Kumo D Be back in the safe zone Kumo D Kumo D, okay Wild West You know what it is Yeah You had the glasses

Back in the days Keep it real No I didn't have the glasses But I was Back in the four of those glasses All right First of all

We have I feel like No disrespect Yeah no problem But this is back To VHS tapes And Why we ask

These questions From way back Like Like he's ain't That old I'm gonna like A nigger not that old We need to know

You're back Your father, you know, your father, you ran your father. You ran your father. He wants you to answer. You're just saying, I don't love him. You were your father. You want to these questions. You want to be friends, man.

You don't have that call, like, fly. Your boss are ready to yell at it out. What's your job, Bob? Shut out. Busy. Hey! Yo. Bob, I think you guys, that's what we will be busy.

Okay. That's right. That's the bad ass. I'm going to ask you an ad. Busy B. Okay. That's my answer. Okay.

Joe and Jada are a million dollars worth of game. Okay. Oh, shit. I just see what you did there. Joe and Jada, I'll go. Damn, I got to say, Bo. Okay, she's taking a shot. Jilly had called me back.

Hey, that's right. I don't tell him. I'm calling them. I was like, yo, Gil, that's my man, that's my, you know what I'm saying? Gil, look, Gil came on my podcast, but when I had a podcast, easily offended. He came in my podcast, he's like, yo, I just want to come up here to see how this shit worked. This is right before. He's like, I want to just see how it worked.

Right before this shit. Okay. And then my boy went, and he was really, you know what I'm saying? He did what he did. So I called him like, yo, what's up? Oh, you ain't speak to him? So he did your podcast, learned your shit, and then you ain't speak to him since. Yeah, I mean, I seen him.

Like, we spoke, we spoke and shit. But when I wasn't trying to go up there, you know what I'm saying? But then when I felt like I wanted to go up there, you know, I heard him. He's like, you know what I'm saying? He's like, he like, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, so, so, yeah, Joe or Jeter. He's a flat lever. Huh?

Remember that old school term? Yeah, he was a flat lever. Yeah, he flat left me. Come on, Gillie. And they won the Super Bowl. He ain't never calling him. Oh, since he won a Super Bowl. I'm proud of them, though, man.

Big of the million dollars. Oh, hell. Yeah, yeah. Right of both of them. Joe and Jay and Joe and Jayden. Yeah, man. And Joe, they went at me about my hair, so I just wanted to, you know, you got to take a shot back, you know what I mean?

Go ahead. Roxanne Chantay or the real Roxanne? Woo! He's going to be like VHS again? Yeah, BAT. There's definitely beat. Actually, you can, you go, you, you're going to, you know. Or A.K., you answer.

Do Roxanne Chantay or the World. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, who you say? You be. He's saying Shantay. Yeah. We accept that. We accept that. That's my father. That's my father. Yeah. Queen's get the birthday, man. Happy birthday, hey. Yeah. You got drunk. Yeah, it's the Libra season. I'm going to pop a season. I'm going to shout up. I'm going to shout out. I'm going to pop shit in like two days. Oh, word?

Hell yeah. Yeah. Shout out of the 13. Papa Lucks. Papa John. But, you know, both of my names named John, too. That's crazy. That's great.

Yeah, yeah. Joppa. Yeah, yeah. You know, Matt's going to be Matt. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, not for sure. Now, after this game, I'm going to say something, too, funny about it. Mab Papa or T-Rex?

Oh, you're out, Chip-Mine. Who wrote that? Yeah, who the fuck? Y'all wrote this for this show? Yeah. Right. She's going on. All right.

I'll get it now. I get it now. I can't even make eye cards. T. T. REC. For sure. Meek Miller, Cassidy.

Right. That shit is crazy. That was good. That one was good. It's a good John? Yeah, yeah. You get that one. That was a good John.

It's a good join. You got to say joint when it's two really you guys. It's a good John. That was a good John. It's a good John. I'm going to say both with that for me. Okay. Both?

Yeah, I'll say both. All right, I'm drinking. I was, yeah, that was dope. Yeah, that's a good John. That's a good. That are you good? Oh, I thought. Tupac or Prodigy?

Ah, I'm going to lie, though. All right now y'all heating up. That's dumb niggas. Cocaine section right now y'all heating up. this have. Cocaine. Yeah, I see what they're doing. Rest and peace of both of them.

Yeah, they know what they're doing. Rest and they're doing. Both of them. And they both was impactful. I'm going to... I'm going to say Tupac.

I'm going to say Tupac. Tupac has been controlling my IG lately. Yeah, somebody got the new guy eye software and they've been going crazy. This nigga, this thing. But it might really be him, and he knew this. I see the one drink. And then...

You know there. But it might be. You don't see them on drink chair I was like, yo! That shit is crazy. Yo, that shit is crazy. You didn't see that? Yeah.

That she's crazy. That shit is crazy. Yo, Rocky, right? A.Sat Rocky, right? Other dude, he hit me on the phone and was like, yo, he sent me a shit with the AI because we was talking about AI.

And he sent me, did you see the shit with the dudes in the parliament? Over there in the UK? where they had a bunch of niggas in the big parliament house in the courthouse, what, no, but push ice these of the nigga on the podium talking.

Yo, this shit is crazy. They look just like the real thing. Yeah, we're fucked, man. Yeah. I see, co-be-ed-old. You know, we're going singularity. Yeah, we're fucked, man. Shit so fucked up.

I feel bad for my kids. I see, man. I don't think about that shit sometimes. I'm like, yo, this shit is crazy. Listen, I see Kobe Bryant, Tupac, and Martin Luther King in the street club, man. They were bringing in Tutsis, man. They got the biggest in Tutsis, man. That's the thing with him right now, Tupac hugging Orlando Anderson, and they said he would never, he would still be here if this happened.

They show him hugging, hugging it out at the MGM. Yo, yeah, man. You know, it's just crazy. On that sense, fuck AI. Yeah, that's kind of wild. I also see, I watched the whole interview of Michael Jordan and shit, you know, LeBron. And then come about, that might not be A-I. Nah, that might not be A-I.

You know why? Mike and LeBron, that's a- No, no, it's what Mike kept saying. He kept saying, like, because when I went to the championship, this is what I did, and Mike don't talk like that. So I was just like, oh, shit, I was like, and I was so into this. And then when I realized it was AI, I was like, I fucking A-A-I. I went to three minutes in my life.

And I was reading. I was reading hard. Like, oh, okay. Like, and fuck AI when it comes to that. Because it's so good, they tricked me. Yo. Shout out to the real AI. Yeah.

Try to the real AI. Yeah. That's the problem. Shout out to the real AI. That's one of my heroes, man. Real rap. That's the answer. That is the answer.

That is the answer. Yeah. I got that shit on the site. Jada kiss and Nas. But you had Nause and Jay Z, though. I mean, this guy just wanted the cocaine section. You just wanted to fuck it all up again. Can you blame them?

It's the Colombian and the Dominican who writes this. I'm going Jada. Ooh. Yeah, we kind of, like, that's, dang. I ain't going to lie. You don't go against the lots. No, I don't go against the law. I can see this.

Bro, like. Yeah, that's tough, though. Yeah, but I'm going to just say both. Okay. Because you picked Nas earlier against Jay-Z. I did see that. I was like, that's the black guy. I was, I listened to Niz.

Nause definitely influence you at certain times when I was in the think tank. So Niz and KISS forever, but I can't. I'll take a shot to that. As Niz been influential. Nile, Nyes is crazy. Jay to Gives forever, for it. Jada Kiss is my brother, too. And in fact, Joe went at me, though, by my hair.

I couldn't believe it. Couldn't believe it. They couldn't believe that you had hair No, they couldn't believe that they fell into the joke No, they're teasing I like, yeah, yeah, I don't like the teasers That's why I had to do it, though Wait, Snoop didn't post my hair shit

Wait, what the fuck happened with your hair, though? Like, what's not, because you keep... This is what happened. I always used to get seizures, and then I was in Paris and... I can't, you just, you stay in Paris, I like Paris, yeah, I'm in love, man. Yeah, I'm in love, man.

Yeah, I feel like that. I have it, man. I don't know what I'm saying. Eddie Martinez said, you know what's crazy? The very few loyal men in the hip hop have to actually start claiming that and showing that being loyal is fly. And coming home is fly. So, you know, I like Paris.

I learned to like Paris. I eat foie gras, man. And what's the other shit? Escargo. Yeah. Escargo. It's Escark. And now.

I love it Snails I look at a different time I get the parmesan snails I get the one I get the one with you know what I mean

Yeah But they're snails Right They're definitely snails All right Yeah You know that's I'm in his cousin

Okay Not really Let me roll with the story Let me just Let's just my story I think That's just Oh yesterday

Yeah That's that's the That's the cousin That's their cousin That's the other cousin Yeah That's the other cousin Go ahead go to the next one

I lost it, but I think it's Flip Top or URL? Ooh. What you mean? Ooh. I said, ooh. Ain't no ooh. Like, you are like, like, smack, like, that's where I got, that's where it started.

That's where it started. Smack DVD, bro. Smack DVD. Not Z-DX, nigga. Not being checked, my bad. Stop, man, I didn't be like that. You know? You know?

You know? You know? You just makes this look at the fact. Yeah, hell yeah. Black also, we're a DVD, bro. We've been. You don't. I'm going to take a real shit.

I'm going to take a shot, Sean. I'm going to take a shot. You're supposed to have me out there. You're going to. You're going to. You're a real nigga time, yeah. Real nigga time, Sean. And what's my other man with the boy head?

Is he still down? Who, Beasley? Beasley. Yeah. Hell yeah. Okay. Smack and Beasley, right? Smack and Checo.

And Chico. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Big up that. The U.R. Yeah, that's the NBA. That's the NBA.

That's the NBA for sure. Or is it. Rock apart. What? No, that's the metaphorically. metaphorically, that's the NBA in our sport, in our sport, for sure. And, and, and, and, and, yeah, the battle rap, yeah. So what would be Rucker?

Um, the Rucker? Yeah. Right now? Yeah. And then what would be Dijkman? Mm. Because Dijkman is up right now. TBL will be Dykeman.

TBL will be Dykeman. TBL will be Dykeman right now? Yeah. Yeah. You know me? Oh, yeah. And Chrome 23 for me would be. be dyke i mean uh uh

the rucker will be crone 23 shout to remy you know but you think crom 23 mean nah what let me think about this shit hold on I'm in the rucker of the shit

nah bro you gotta at least go with what I just go with my sister league yeah nah nah that's all I was doing for sure Yeah, all right. What are the Rutgers?

Well, then what? Then what, then what, then what, right now? We'll be the Rutgers. Yeah, you said right now already. Because, because Rutgers, yeah, who? Ruckers not no slack. Rucker to me is, to me, to me. Wait, Rucker NBA.

I mean, if I'm going to watch a game, I'm going to, I love him, I love him. I'm a queen's nigger, you got to remember. I used to go there and sit on crates. Yeah, I couldn't even get in the park. Yeah, that type of shit. I didn't even know how to do that. Yeah, so. It would have been, I could have, I would have said, if not, KOTD.

Okay, King of the Dot. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to say that is that king of the dot. Because you're talking about. I'm not thinking about, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you're talking about... I know that's a whole... Lifesantarian of the shit.

No, no, yeah, yeah. No, I'm just talking like... Pete's soup or something shit. Oh, yo, we don't... Listen, we get like that. We need to go there, well... Yeah, we gotta leave that to the comments section. Yeah, we don't want...

We don't want... We say neither. Yeah, yeah, that's a good shot for that, then. All right, I mean, but you said neither to what, though? No, no, we were just describing the league's rock... Oh, no, we didn't say neither. Right. That's what I was saying. I'm drinking. He's trying to trick me up to the car.

That's nothing wrong with it. I'm missing it to the rules. Sonny, Sonny wants, he got one. Go ahead, Sonny. This is a special one. I don't think they got this on the list, but this is something that's been going on recently. Don't do it.

DNA or easy-to-block captain. They've been going at it. So you guys are vets. You know, we respect y'all. That's all. Just throw it out the easy-to-block captain. They like DNA. Get the phone.

I don't got a mic. No, we hear you. We hear you. I'm hearing you. I'm hearing you, man. Well, I would say DNA. If we...

Yeah. Yeah, as far as in a battle, I would say DNA. That's who you put your money on. Yeah. Okay. Well, you ask you who I feel like when? I'm not like... No, no, any criteria.

This is part of the same thing. DNA got a two fix, too. so he's back outside. And he's for Queens. Yeah, he's from Queens. Yeah, he's going to be outside. Nah, I can get... I'm going with DNA, too.

I'm going with DNA. Yeah. How many you say DNA too? No, no, no, no. He was tired of, he was tired of the niggas saying that shit about him in the battle. Like, that's the first thing that niggas keep going on. He's the kid is doing. DNA got a shit.

He did a show commercial. He found her for every house. He got a shit together. That's a snobble-time fight. You said that's a special one He's been waiting to say this last year Yeah, that's a special one guy short I thought about this right now

That's a lie I did, I did It would have been on the list I want to know Yo Your MTV raps or rap city Oh, rap city from me Yeah, that's bad

For me for me for it. I'm going to ask for Pops For you Pops Co-Crust brothers are fantastic five in basement oh yeah yeah we're on the next one man he's asking you now

cold crush brothers or Fantastic five Put a camera on up Cold Crush What you're charging Diggas for what they did You want a bottle

I aces made Oh yeah he drink He drank he drank He didn't Okay All right Can you, can you, can we get, Pops? This is, yes, please.

For the drink chance crew, to murder the movie. That's your birthday is his birthday. Yes, sir. And his birthday is our birthday. And that makes all of all it is your birthday. But hey, hey, hey, it has. I know, no, no, it's the way you grab for it. Listen, that's a hot fopper.

You got to know how to pop hot. That's a hot fop. Don't point it this way, bro. Yeah, it's hot. It's hot. You got to know how to pop high bottles. But please get that on camera. We got to get help pop in the bottle on camera.

Please, we want to keep the ace going and we want to keep Mr. Hope happy. That's right. Hey, my pie's birthday, one day, yo. Okay, how is this? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The number one in our cameras.

Okay, we got it? Okay. Yay. Way-bye. Give it to pop a move. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yeah, let's celebrate, man.

Let's let her celebrate. That's your own bottle. We're going to get them a bottle. We're going to get them a bottle. That's your own body. You get fucked up, Bob. Here, we'll get your own bottle. But y'all, y'all, y'all got a bottle over there?

Okay, let's do it. That's a wild thing to stop. You get a bottle. You get a bottle. All right, right, right, right. You get a bottle. You get a bottle. We want to be like, you know, man.

I would the drink chats. We got to take care. Yeah. Okay. The first two, when they didn't give one. Go on. You get a bottle. You get a bottle.

You get a bottle. You get a bottle. You get a bottle. We're giving out Ace of Spade, baby. That's it. That's it. That pops take that whole bottle for itself. For itself.

And look, over there. What's the name? Yeah. Diana. And then we're going to give this bottle for them over there. Hey. For them over there. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, for that's right. The Yala crew. Yep, for the Yala crew. Yep. You know what I'm saying? You can take care if we couldn't drink them. You know what I'm saying? Yes.

I don't know what happens with the other broadcasts, you know what I'm saying? Ah! But over here, though. You get a bottle. You get a bottle. You get a lot. And of the best champagne in the world.

Come on now. You got a hand over it. You get a hang on. You get a hang on. No, hang on the next one. On the next one. Cannabis or LL? Come on, man.

Are you out your mind? Are you out your mind? I'm not the one asking the question. How is the sounds? Listen, LL, LL, first of all, me and my brother, we're working on actually a project together. Oh, yeah, yeah.

L L and M&M E P. That's a dope name. No, he's the more L-L-L-N-M-N-M-A-asshole. No, no. No, you got both are correct, but it sound like, y'all both are correct. Loaded Lux and Murder, Moog. I'm saying, that's the concept. Hold on, hold on, we got that one conversation.

Yeah, I see what you think. I thought that. Okay. Yeah, so L, L and M&M, EP, me and my brother. That's a concept. That's, you know, you're Loaded Lucks, murder, move. You know, but we, and we working on, we working on that now. We just started.

Yeah, we just started. Wow. Yeah. And you're going to get L, M&M on it. I mean, hopefully. Hopefully, hopefully. It's going to happen. Yeah, hopefully.

We'll be speaking that to him. Yeah, let's speak that to Richie. That, you know. I can call Al. I don't know no one who got Eminem number. Right. Right. Right.

Royce. Royce. You said that shit. I want to shout out Royce, Bay, Royce, you know. Always been showing us. Yeah. You know what I'm good with y'all. The work is going to be good.

He's going. Yeah. I think Eminem is such a lyrical. guy, he's down, and he's going to tell y'all he don't want no money. He said my name with a song and Adjord. Eminem is a big, and that's the best thing.

Like, when you said earlier, he's like, you don't think nobody can outwrap Eminem. Yeah. And one of the best things about Eminem, his best trait is he is hip hop. Right. Like, he's always on the side of hip hop

when hip hop needs a person to stand next to he's there. Like, like, whether it's out front or it's behind the back. So he's definitely a hip-hop. Yeah. And he realized hip hop saves him He realized what hip hop is done to him

So and I love that You know what I love that I love that And it's not always on camera Like some of the things out here I love that about a word Like that should be like You never know

Like these He's so competitive Like you know Like I don't think he's competitive I think that somebody Like bites him And then he just bites back Like

Yeah Because he said some shit Like right Right Right he was like, yo, without further ado, he said more murderous than Moogh is, right? Right.

And at first you'd be like, fire. Yeah. But then you'd be like, hmm. He's saying he's better. He could be more murderers. You feel me? Because he goes like, so. Nigel.

I mean, rest of peace to X, the rest of peace to X, no, the X. He tells the first song I ever get on with him when I'm, I'm, I'm sign a reference. First song, I'm happy. You know, so with X, da-da-da-so in the song, I'm like, yo. I'm like, yo. I'm like, yo, yeah, you know what I'm saying?

I'm the next nigga. That's going to make them throw their bikes up. I really have millions watching me. Some of something. I went to kill the verse, right? I go in the studio the next day because I wasn't there. The digger, come on. You the next nigga?

Well, I'm next, nigger. I'm the next, nigger. I'm bringing bells on the rest, digger. I'm doing this shit the brail. And I'm like, did this thing is just going? Like, a walk came in, like, that's the dog. That's your initiation. You know what I'm saying?

But I'm like, yeah, nah, but that's still the rap side of it, the hip-hop side of it. If you think about it, even L.L did that. Like, if you listen to I shot you, he says, right after Foxy Brown goes, he goes, female rappers too, can get it too. I don't give a fuck boo. And you like, yo, L. Oh, see. Why would you do?

Like, why would you do that? Like, if you think about it, that's the same shit. That's like, that's, like, I'll bite you if you get on my pregnant. You think you're too crazy? I think he was going at niggas, too. I'm going from TV. Wasn't you going? I was going at niggas.

They're not around no more. So, yeah. Oh, yeah, they're going. Oh, okay, okay. You can't be in this shit without having that, like, like, I'm not. Like, that contention. That's from the Haitian Revolution. Hey, man.

I'm just sorry. You're doing this, buddy. Black daughter. Andre. Andre 3K. Shit. That's good. That one was good.

All right. I'm, I'm, I'm neither for me. Okay, let's do it then. I mean, that's a shot. I mean, that's a shot. Yeah. No, you know, no, no, no. Both.

Both. You know what ginger sharks. Like, I can't pick between either. Right, right. Okay. All right. Yeah, that's up there creatively. That's crazy.

I mean, what? Y'all not, y'all don't answer these, though. Oh, no. Too tough. No, no. Because I've seen you answer it. You answered for nigh. The ones that I want to.

Yeah, yeah. All right, cool. It's queen, shit. Yeah. All right, back. I got you. I'm favorable. All right, last one.

Go. Okay. This is the last one for real? Yeah, man. Excuse me? What? What? You said another list, bro?

And time and energy into this. You're going to get these questions out. Yeah, for sure. He's not playing. Yeah, I just said that. Don't get this work. Don't skip leg, that. So it's the last one?

Yeah, they listen to another podcast. All right. Okay. So loyalty, loyalty or respect? I'm going to take loyalty. Yeah. I'm definitely going to take loyalty. Loyity.

But they said, you know, it's a tricky question. That shit. that part yeah yeah I feel like it's the only time that I say you should say both is because like I kind of want both yeah yeah yeah

what I want both is that's the thing yeah all right all right so then let me actually that's my my easy answer but we're doing a good deed right or doing what you know is right and true in your heart right if nobody else acknowledged it would it really matter to you I mean that may be a personal thing where you got

I really assess that. But that's, when you say that, that's how I feel about that. I feel like if I'm standing on truth, I'm standing where I'm supposed to be, it don't matter what others think at that point. They'll get it. Not that it don't matter. So that's the loyalty part you're saying. Yeah, you understand?

Yeah, that's how I feel about that. And y'all say that like that. But I'm just saying if it's given free and you had the option to have both, why not have both? Yeah, I would like to have both. That's why I feel like this is the only guy. Like, I'm not going to say, now don't give me this when I can have loyalty and respect. Like, just giving both. yeah I just say I feel like we go too deep into it and people like I got to

I think that's the right answer both yeah yeah yeah I think both is like you should look for I think one I don't think you should just be done because you know that's what it is right whatever come with that I got to come with that that that's the only thing I'm saying but I could not respect somebody would somebody do like somebody but I could be loyal to them yeah you know what I'm saying That's why I said. Respect to be a little. I like that. Yeah, we do have those type of, you know.

Yeah, yeah. I'm coming to join you, bro. Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, no. Hey, don't give him no ACE to Spade. Jay's easy. Jay, you cannot drink no X to Spade. He's not ACE's Spade approved.

Yo, son, what size are you, though? You take your Acespe. Yeah. One X. Hey, give, and I got, what size is you? 2X. I'm large. You are?

You are, you familiar with, with Detroit, the Detroit music scene That's going on right now Well, no, that just just been This might be for you as hip hop Okay Um Yeah, um

It's a two X wrong Oh, thank you brother Um, I got my man A.K. I got my man A.K. in the building, right? A.K. Um, but he's been from the beginning. Which one is that? What's the mess of cheddar boys

back then? Cheddar boys, right? Okay. Yeah, what joints you did with them, A.K. All right, cool. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to show my bro some love for real.

Okay. Yeah. Make some noise for him? Yeah, for sure. Listen. Because he, you know. He, he wanted him, the niggas that he got to put up with, with up, when I, when I'm about to battle.

And I got to call people and run through the line, like run through shit. Like, you know what I mean? I'm the niggie. I call you. three in the morning, four in the morning, five in the morning, six in the morning, seven. Like, you know what I'm saying? My boy, he'd pick up. And, you know what I mean?

Always, you know what I'm? Got to. Large? Yeah, that's a large. Okay, cool. Now, I- Let me ask. Two-X.

That's because you give him a gray hoodie deck. He wants a great-huddy deck. Huh? Yeah, right? That's all. Hey, Sid. So, just in case. Shout my bro, my bro, Sintz-say in the building.

Where's the gunplay? Gum play for Miami? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's the homie. That's a, yeah, he was supposed to pull up. That's what he, that's my bro, Sinseng, oh, me, man. I got a medium, too. Anybody can fit a medium? He was supposed to pull up.

He was going to talk some shit. Yeah, of course. It's the homie. Word. So we're going back, right? Yeah, we're done, yeah. And you say you wanted to say something after we finished this. You remember?

Oh, shit, I said it. Oh, okay. Yeah, I said it. All yeah, how yeah, put a camera on him. Put a camera on. You can stay right there. He's got a camera on them right there. All right, I want to give a shout out to my brother, Big Gee, Zipfing.

Biggeria Sing-Sing. All right. I don't give a shout out to Jay Bob Chalk. Right, I hate a man. God, that, got that. I don't make his two and one not, not at least. I want to give a shout out until now. He came through the McDonald's from being a white.

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one rappers love y'all because of your craftmanship right where y'all put words together the way I can do that the way you can deliver the words some people can put words together they can't deliver them

that's why people need uh ghost riders it's why people need all that but rappers we admire you right like we admire what you can go through we admire what you can endure it's like a kind of pain that y'all can endure

that's why when you were saying that I'm like y'all y'all are part of the 1% y'all one percent is like and i mean that with the most respect it's like battle rap is one percent of the earth's population it's like running a marathon right there's people who can run there's people who can run a marathon it's only one percent of the earth i can run a marathon right and i believe there's only one percent of the earth and it's battle rappers right but i believe that's the reason why the five percent of the earth which is i would like to look at as the rappers

I'm dropping math I'm dropping math quietly but that's the reason why I believe that we admire y'all right is because

y'all can endure a pain that not only that we might we can't take but we're not even willing to even try it right we're not even willing to put ourselves up in there so is that something

that helps build your character when you see somebody that says, yo, you know what, move, I love you, I see this then, or is this something that's just like, you know what? It doesn't matter because my next battle, I got to deliver anyway.

So what I'm trying to say is, like when a person says, they're a fan of you, is that a plus, or is that just like, it's regular at this point? It's just like, I expect that. Man, I appreciate. Man, that's your.

shit means so much. Like when I was like that like in London it just was such a eye opener in terms of London I'm gone

my shit this nigga had to act of everything Yo Go on Go on go to wait

come on get to go crazy that was fire though that was buyer my boy slapped the floor and all

it just it spoke to I think I heard, I might have heard Jordan said one time when he spoke to playing every game like it was his last because. Jordan, you said. Yeah, yeah. And he was speaking to the fact that yo, no matter what I did in the other games, that night that somebody came to see me, they bought a ticket to see me. Wow. You know what I'm saying? So

to hear somebody's acknowledgement, right, just to hear firsthand, it gives, it almost confirms all of those nights when you was in the dark, when you was, you know, mean surmounting and disciplining yourself and doing everything toward the mission to hear that. That means, man, it's like, and to watch to see them and what it meant to them, like they meant that shit. It just, it reminds me while, while me and my brother, we just, We are who we are in the sport,

and it also speaks to the love that we have for the sport. You know what I mean? That's the reciprocity. When you see somebody tell you, yo, man, I just check that shit out. Yo, you did that, or keep going, or however they feel. But they got something from that feed, man, it's no feeling like that. And I think that's the part that means more than the money. You know, it's a great thing as men, you know what I mean,

to be able to feed your family. You know what I mean, to have a means. you know but that right there that that surpasses that's not just that's love that somebody took it took their time out and and then from from how would you say a space within them a real intimate space they share what you make how you made them feel like no that that right there is when it get tough that's the part right there where it's like nah i i got to endure i got to keep going i remember that shit even when we was coming up as kids like just being in little cyphers of around the block, like, niggas just being, just to hear, hmm, well, who, like, shit like that.

I go to that level. Shit like that. Like, it's crazy. But it's just, it, you can't put a price tag on that. You understand? You know, I don't describe, like, elite battle rappers as, like, y'all, you're the Navy sales who have to be recorded. You know how most Navy sales, their jobs, so rough and so foul, that no one. never records them, and they have to retire 20 years

before they actually tell their story. But it's like battle rap, y'all go through that shit, but y'all got to be recorded. Mm. Mm. Right. Herring analogy, man. Yeah. That's gladiated shit. No, I mean, that's why I compare it to,

like, Navy Seals is, like, the most important part of the Army. Like, if you look at rap or hip-hop, like, it's different segments of the Army, like, Navy Seals is probably the most important part, right? Because that's who they go, they're sending in to kill Bin Laden, right? It ain't the nigga that just left the Bronx. Right.

They're making egg of cheese. They're going to say, the elite of the elite, you know what I'm saying? It's the elite of the elite. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like that's what battle rappers are. They're like, it's the illest version of rap. And we all, we all. I feel so.

Y'all get sent out to kill. And the only difference between y'all and the Navy sales is you're actually on camera. the Navy sales it isn't but this thing about if rap was going against another genre of music I don't rap was to be the first thing because I feel like battle rap came I'm sorry man

yeah but respect like in the most illest way I feel like the way I feel like the way we did we made it though we not even like we have always

it's always hip hop on the one of brother It's always hip-hop, right? But it became its own genre. You feel what I'm saying? Right. So it's not like playing in the NBA. It's like the quote-unquote rappers. And then like the battle rappers is the record.

Like it used to be looked like that. But we had the fortitude, right, to keep pushing. And to where we broke it off and created our own sport. to survive. Right. That's what happened with all the elements of hip hop. Tom Brady would go see LeBron. Right.

You know what I'm saying? LeBron or go see Tom Brady. It's not like LeBron going to the record to see another person playing basketball. It's like we're all playing sports. I agree. But we just in different sports. So we do different things.

It's all entertainment. Right. So that's what I feel like it's became. Yeah. So respectfully to correct, like you're saying, like we're going to sit in the battle. rappers, nah. No, what I look at it is all the military.

The most elite part of the military is, to me, is battlewrap. He's still saying, don't send us first, nah. Maybe that analogy was wrong, but maybe what I should have said is that's the people we're going to send it to end it. Right. To end the war. That's like, you know, like we're sitting in the other niggas because that war is going to keep going.

But we're saying to end this war. But real quick, I think what you're saying goes back to the. A big problem in hip hop in general, which is what I was saying about the elements. Like, hip hop in the beginning, everybody was saying is graffiti, is breakdances, the emceeing, the DJs. But it's all hip-or. Or knowledge of stuff if you want to add that to the fifth. But then the rapper got excluded and Monoppoena, they monetized it. And industry took it over that didn't give a fuck about the culture.

And then the B-boys and the B-girls weren't the-and-the-jee. The DJ with the skills was like, yeah, are you cool? but we don't even really need you that much to propel the rapper, the graffiti artist that's some other thing. So they all have been independently successful. I mean, look at the B-Boys and B-girls in the Olympics. Graffiti is crazy all over the world,

making millions and millions of dollars as high, you know, elite art, you know? So that's what's happened with battle rapping. Like, y'all felt the same thing that those elements felt. Wow. And y'all had to be like, you know what? We're not going to just sit here and wait to get signed to a label and be, we're going to go and make this work.

That's crazy. Which is actually the fortitude and the strength of hip hop in general. But imagine if it all came back together and said, yo, we really together and we won. Right. That was real mighty orphan. I feel. That was crazy. Nah, that was.

I feel like nobody can watch like battle rap and not fuck with it. Right. You know what I mean? Like if you watch it for the first time, you know what I mean? People like never heard about it. And then when they saw it, they're just so infixed. They just, it's a trance, and they watch it. And then they've got to go down the entire rabbit hole and find out,

who you said this about this person. Now I got to go find out who this person is. Yeah, that's true. You know what I mean? And it's a story within itself is not, you know, just, just, you know, niggas just saying shit to each other to try to say mean shit, you know? You know, what's crazy about you. And I would say this, you particularly, like, I followed you a lot, right?

a lot more than any other one, right? And a lot of people you battle, I look them up after. Like, so just think about that. You gave... You put them on to him. Yeah, you put them on to me on. Right, right.

If I didn't know about them, I don't care about them before you battle them. And I just be like, fuck them. You know what I mean? With you. Like, I'm sorry. Right, right. And then after that, I'll go look up.

And I'm like, this nigga just killed Conno Everett. Right. This nigga just... He just killed fucking him. fucking, uh, I'm trying to think of a reputable boxer. He just killed Bernard Hopkins, or he just killed, you know, Oscar Delahoya. Like, like, I'm like, holy shit. Like, most of them, I find out after, you know what I'm saying?

Like, you know what I mean? So, so that lets you know. What's that you were saying? Last night we was on. What about, about the, um, the money shit? What was it? I forgot. When I was.

About. I forgot, like, you remember though. When I was, um, speaking in regards to participants in the culture and how the money don't equate to. Yeah, like, yeah, that was some real shit you were saying. Oh, yeah, no, I, I, I, he was speaking about, um, we're in a, we're in a space, just even in life in general where people do just enough. Right. You understand? Right.

I think what we do is, um, and I would say. all the different branches as you name, right? It took so much time and energy to get to those spaces to where you realize you had to go outside of the box. You can't just do enough to master something.

So when we were speaking about the money and different things like that, like our culture, what they've done with it, the money almost made it to a space where people started doing just enough to now cash in on it. Where I feel like it was like

a plane a safe type of situation. What I was saying to him, though, is this thing that we do, it goes past just, yo, I just, I'm doing it. Yeah, the money's a means, but the money

can't mean everything to get to those levels. So we speak about, like, because we speak about this because we do like our fantasy football shit sometimes, be like, yo, what would it be like to see this person almost in like super saying mode? Or what would

they look like what would that version of them be right you know what i mean because we all extract things or diamonds from one another right god put this this all that in you right in you in all of us right and but what what do you go through enough to really make you crack and bring that to the world i just think they put like a short stop on it when they gave the monetary and i was speaking to him about it i i had to go man it's bigger than that it's deeper than that i want to see what the nigger really made of. The society ain't going to tell you what you really made of because where they

put the gold post, you stop short. That's the reason why Netflix never show numbers. Same way. Yeah, right, right. They want to show you what you want. Exactly. That was my thing.

My thing is when we speak about the culture, when we speak about it in its true essence, that shit came to us when it was nothing. Right. At all. And it forces you to grow. It forced you to grow every single time. Every time, I thought I wanted to say, you were speaking about what it mean, like the, every time when you're asking, what you gained from a battle, you know what, whether it be from the fans or hearing somebody go, ooh, for me, it was some transformative spaces that it put me in.

Right. I'm learning versions of myself that I would have never, shout out to all my opponents I've ever battled. They forced me to be in other different, that you can't make this shit up no matter how much you think you know this thing. When you go in there, nigger, you think you're a baby all over. again with this shit you gotta walk the line there's no other way that's even me as a fan like me watching both of y'all like me knowing

like I go in like so I'm fans of both of y'all so me I'm going in rooting for y'all like you know most of the time I don't know the other opponent right right so but then you shock me every single time like no matter how much I think I know you how much I think I know both

y'all yeah it's always you I come up with a different scenario you'll come up with with something else. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, what is something that you feel like you didn't do in battle rap yet that you would like to accomplish?

Oh, well, that's so crazy. But, like, I ain't gonna lie. Like, used to be on my bucket list to battle like Nause. Oh, shit. Nah, I mean, not real shit, though. I know. I can tell you when you said it. You're dead serious.

Yeah. Nah, because I just, this is my thing. This is my soul. This is my thing, right? I think you want to battle them because you are my am. You like, you like them. For sure. So you want to, yeah, I want to go to them levels.

I want to, I respect that. Yeah, yeah. I want to, the best out there that life has to offer is what you want to be in the room with. Uh-huh. Just even a. thought of it and where you would have to go to even deal with these situations is where I'm trying to tell everybody

this is where the gold is. You know what I mean? It ain't what they put NAHs deeper than that and every time we go in them spaces we figure that out. The conversation me and this nigga be having it's like you can't even have some of them shit with the world because it's like niggas ain't catch up to that yet.

But you find these spaces where you got to go beyond the surface. That's all I'm saying. So like to battle Naz He just got the $5 billion corporate races That's not going to be my answer That was going to be my answer Right

My answer was going to be What I feel like I didn't do Is make it a billion dollar Industry And that's what I'm on That's what I feel like the next evolution For me coming out of my shell Right going through

What I went through Is making it a billion So it's so funny you said $5 billion, just the word billion, because that was the frequency that I was just on shit. Like, I was just going to say that I didn't do that. And it has potential to happen in the correct way. I believe it. I wanted to actually see y'all battle, right?

Because y'all be battling, right? Think about it. Y'all be really, like, battling. Yeah. But just, you win the EFFFM, right? But, like, like, Luxa coach EFN and I, like, coach you and y'all just go do, like, a battle on a show or something like, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm like that. Ah, yeah. Not like I'm going to rip your head on, but just something like that because y'all definitely be going at it. You keep someone, you keep someone to violence and different ways, you know, it'd be like that artistically. If you see, if you see messy. Keep kicking the ball And him and his man

Keep arguing Like you know what Everything is better when it rhymes Yes yeah yeah You know Yeah, everything is better when it rhymes So that's you know It's just shit like that

God damn it man That's the hard Is it anything Leave it out of hair What I want to tell you out of that Oh you said Do you want to tell the fans Yeah

Love you love you love y'all That's true you know Stay you know Stay tuned That's it, stay tuned, man Stay tuned L and M&M LL and M&M

That's on the way You know He's definitely on the way Man You know I'm gonna plug that We're in great hoodie season That's why

Great hoodie I get your great hoodies Um And if you ain't see In that gray hoodie It's just danger Yeah With Naz

That might come out Yes Yes Yeah But um Go check out Murg and Hitman Hall If you ain't see that battle

Yeah, already crazy. Yeah, on YouTube, bringing it up. I would like to end it on that because, yeah. Also, that's, got to show, batty rap. I thought, I thought I spoke to you about it and I thought you was going. I don't know where I heard that. Yeah, I thought you, you know. Okay, you did, was it you, I heard that for you?

Yeah, like I said, we just dropped it. Yeah, no, I actually sent it to you, like, you know what I'm saying, but nevertheless. Okay, that's why. Yeah, you know, wait for you to, go. Okay, that's fine. Yeah, got a show Baddy Rap. You know, my partner, REL, T-Rex, who, you know, is a reality show with all females.

You know, we had them competing. Did they fight? I mean, it's not about that. I've seen they fall in the gym, right? Like, it was like one fight. Okay, I saw it. You do your recone. Yeah, yeah, I saw that.

It's not about that. It's not about showcasing these women. skill the skill that they're doing they happen to fight those entertainment yeah I mean you know that's entertainment to be it's entertainment right right yeah you know but um bad girls clubs and shit like that

you know I know what's going on I'm gonna be buying I really like it's baddy rap baddy rap show dot com baddy rap show dot com but it's you're a B-A-D-I-E-R-A-P show dot com but um you know we got the first we put we put the first two

episodes out on YouTube so you can go watch them but you know we got nine episodes you know we do it we do it ourselves yeah on our cell we're doing it ourselves baddyrap show.com get the whole season for $20 but it's you know it's something

it's something way different YouTube subscription or you have to pay No no YouTube yeah baddyrap show.com is where you could get the entire season but we put two episodes out on YouTube

so you know for people so we can get Some engagement. Cheap niggas, little niggas battle rap. This is a baddywrap.com. Baddyrap show.com. Fucking, don't get it for free, man. You work too hard for that. Yeah.

Download that. Yeah. Battyrap.com. Batty rap. Yeah, battyrap show. com. I'm going on there and tune in and make sure they fight. I like it.

Yeah. I like entertainment. Yeah. No, it's really, it's really, it's really dope. You'll love it. You'll love it. I'm sorry. You would love it.

I'm sorry. Yeah. My cousin, K.I. He's supposed to be here. okay he's pushing the next save the next generation with the woos and the chos he's the one like you you're probably you're not racist familiar with that what what was in the chos the woos and the chos about the gangs in new york my cousin k i he's he's one of the spearheads of that that movement of the peace between the two gangs you know what i'm saying and um i just wanted to you know

give him some love with that because that take a big step to like that's younger kids just like that was really just in the game shit to be stopping trying to like come together you know what I mean pushing that like all of us peace like together you know shout out the chaos for that healthy shout out word I mean I want thank y'all for this yeah but you guys say something to your fans he said something to his fan no he said he wasn't oh yeah no um I'm gonna get them I'm gonna just because you just reminded me this

so I'm just the battle with torque we'll be dropping soon you know what I'm saying I felt like I was dead like they mooks in me the link I ain't gonna lie I'm kidding

in the candy stores like you hit me I was just like oh yeah but don't be dope I was all in the battle damn you was you're right

he did that but this is done already I ain't a lie I was like I was so I was like I was like all right cool

I didn't even, because when I realized there was other battles on there. And I'm like, this is the paper fuel link. Oh, you're limited edition, Lime. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said, I watched it. Oh, that's exclusive for you. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. Yeah, all, right, I, right, I, all right, I'm doing.

Yeah, yeah, it's just being JP, JP, JP. Yeah, you watch the paper view. That's it. That's it. That's it. You know what I'm going to watermark his shit. You know what I'm saying, but for real. I was flugging, um, not to catch your wisdom.

No, no, please. No, but I was saying to that, to that, what I'm doing um Rwine is the show I got we're gonna have a discussion about it you got and I got Rewan as well

we're doing ghost face yeah yeah that's right yeah that's right yeah we're doing what yeah for sure

and Ray and Ray we're gonna talk to them too okay but um with Rwine I'm having a discussion okay

well with twerk we're gonna talk about the battle we're gonna talk we're just you know you and Turk yeah that's a genius thing

because you like how boxes do sometimes after the press conference yeah yeah yeah and you get to see, like, what type of character

a person is. Like, when Terrence Prophet gave Canello back his belts, like, I've never seen that before in the history of boxing. And by the way, everyone gives their back their belts because those belts are under his name, right? So, but no one does it televised. On camera, right. No one does it on camera. Like,

and it's like, he did it in front of his wife and his kids. So, like, although I might have got, I might have beat you up in front of your wife and kids, I let you leave. And personally, I let you leave with your belts. Because they send other people You're still a champion You're still a chance

That's a sense of character Yes You know what I'm saying So yeah Yeah Yeah You're in a picture Thank you

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