Drink Champs - Episode 482 w/ Bryson Tiller

Episode Date: December 5, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legends, Bryson Tiller! Bryson pulls up for a rare, unfiltered conversation that cuts straight into the heart of his journey. Known for his quiet demeanor and razor-sharp creativity, Tiller steps out of his usual low-key zone and opens up to the Champs with the kind of honesty fans rarely get to see. He breaks down the rise of “Trapsoul,” the pressure that came with becoming a new voice in R&B, and how he navigated fame while protecting his peace and family. The episode dives into his evolution as an artist—his wins, his setbacks, and everything in between. Tiller talks about balancing vulnerability with confidence, growing into his own lane, and learning to trust his instincts again. He shares stories from early studio sessions, the creative blocks that almost derailed him, and the mindset that helped him bounce back stronger. With drinks flowing and the energy loose, the conversation stays fun, sharp, and full of gems. Tiller laughs about misconceptions, salutes the artists who inspired him, and lays out what fans can expect next. This episode gives a rare look at Bryson Tiller unplugged—real, reflective, and fully in his element. Make some noise for Bryson Tiller!💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com   Follow: Drink Champs https://www.drinkchamps.com https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps   DJ EFN  https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions   N.O.R.E.  https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is your boy, N-O-N-A-A-A-A-A. up is DJEFN. This military crazy war, drink champs, yappyawa. Make some noise! Now, when we talk about this person, we talk about a person who makes hits, give out hits. 15 million sold in your face.

And he don't even be liking to be in front of the public. He don't even care. He just makes hits for any reason. we are going to give him his flowers today he deserves it from being in front the camera to behind the camera to he makes your your favorite artist a better artist

because he's been pinning the shit for all of everybody and in case you don't know what we're talking about you're my mother oldie brings the motherfuckett out of the building listen listen my brother I want to get straight to the interview because salo I've been doing this, what, 10 years?

About to be 10 years. About to be 10 years. So I, first of all, let me, let me big you up for being on time. I bet against you. I bet that you would not be on time. So that's what we do. We based it on what the artist order. Like, we know if anybody order Hennessy, it's going to be a different interview, right?

We know patrol, like certain things. But when you ordered A's to Spade, I was like, it's going to be smooth. That's one. But I said he's going to show up late. But I saw I lost on the show up late. And we showed up late. And we showed up late. We fucked up.

So we apologized. So like I said, when I was trying to point I was trying to make, we've been doing this almost 10 years, right? And when I go through a discovery of an artist, that's one of the thing, yo, bro, you really are a hit hit maker. Like, is that something that you set out to be or that's something that just comes naturally for you? I definitely got to say I set out to be in for show.

You know, in the beginning, I was like, had this whole alias called Penn Griffey. I was like, I was... Penn Griffin, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get as many hits as, bro. But somebody just told me something about a hit today, and I was like, I was in a studio session. They was like, do you know why they started calling it a hit?

I was like, dang, I never even thought about that. And it was something that, you know, hits whoever's listening to it. They was in the meeting or whatever. And I was like, damn, I guess that's really what a hit is when somebody, you know what I mean? Like, somebody just feels it, like, it's them. It resonates. Right. You know, even if the song never really charted, you know, or whatever, it doesn't matter.

Like, if there's a bunch of people in my concert singing it, it's hit to me, you know. Right, absolutely. What's a song that you made for somebody else that you regret? That I regret? Yeah. I made for somebody else? What do you mean? Like, you would have wanted to keep it for yourself?

You wanted to keep it for yourself. Oh, like something that I wrote. Yeah. I mean, I don't really got, I don't got too many under my gut that I gave to somebody else. Okay. For me is, I don't know if you heard this record, but, you know, Jigga, Jigga, Nagan, you even heard that record? That used to say, Norrie, Norie, that dude, Norrie, and I gave that shit away, and I regret that. So you don't have one of those?

No, no. Okay. So, all right, let's get to it. Louisville. How did, how does, how does, how to, because we hear, we see Rich hit there, how did, how did, how did that happen? How did that connection happen? I know Timberland. Yep. So how did this happen? My guy, Kim, he's from Miami, Miami-based. He knew a couple people that knew Rich, and I think they might have been playing some video games or something.

You know, they was connected, interconnected somehow. And, you know, Rich called Wind, and my music and thought I was super talented. And, you know, I was working to EPS when I first met Rich, or when I first started talking to Rich. And, you know, I remember they told me they was going to New York with Timbalin to work on Magna Cardo.

grill the album. You know, they invited me up to New York. So I was like, hell yeah, I want to go to New York. Yeah. Didn't Timberlin tell you to quit your job or some shit like that? That's, that was years later. Okay. I was a year. Yeah, you're just talking about when I met Rich, you know what I mean? But yeah, I met, I met

I flew up to New York. That was my first time in New York. I was just... So you met Rich first? I met Rich. Okay. And this producer that he was working with. Okay. And who was, I think, signed to Timlin at the time of this producer. So we went up there. And yeah, yeah, we was in there. I wasn't even supposed to be there. He, you know, he said, what up to me in a couple of time? I think my boy, Rich Timlin probably don't even

know this, but Rich had, like, he snuck a picture of me at Timbo in the studio. And I was like, he said to Timmy, I was like, yo, that's crazy. Like, that's a big deal where, you know, where I was home. You know, I got back home to Louisville. And he wasn't even really, at that time, I didn't really have nothing to really show for. I didn't, I really shouldn't have been in the room, you know what I'm being honest. But anyway, I got back to Louisville. I remember posting a picture of the one that Rich sent me. And I was just like, yo, man, I ain't saying that next year is my time or the year after that's my time, but I'm just saying my time is coming.

That was the caption. Yeah, that was the caption. And I remember everybody was hitting me up. And then once one person hit me up and was, you know, I mean, I'm going off on the deep end. No problem. Yeah, anyways, one person hit me up and it was just like, yo, you know, we got a, we got a contract, we got an agreement. So you can't just, you know, he thought I was signing a timid or something. That wasn't even the case.

I was just posting a pick. So I was like, what are you saying? Like, he was like, I'm saying that like, we got to figure something out. But he had previously agreed to release me from this contract that he was talking about. But seeing that picture with Timberland, changed everything. Like, he knew something was about to come from that, even though he didn't believe in me. But at first, I come like, after that, he said that. And I was pissed.

I was like, oh, no, I said, you know what, bro? I said, I'll never make music ever again. I said, I'm going to just go work at UPS and just keep doing what I was doing the first. You got it, bro. I'm good. You know what I mean? You know, he was trying to see if I was bluffing. I wasn't bluffing.

I was doing that for about two years, two, three years or something like that. After that, you know, I hit rock bottom. I was like, man, I can't do this no more. Like, I'm struggling. I ain't got no money. Caught up a couple people asking for bread. You know, Rich used to send me bread too, you know, just to help be out. But there was another guy that came dude, I was telling you, you know, I hit him up,

asking for some money. And he was like, bro, you got to get back in that studio. So, you know, I'm crying and shit. And I was just like, all right, you know, I'm going to get back to studio. Literally the first song that I made was don't. Right. So made that. Don't.

Yeah, yeah. That was the first song I made. You know, and I was sitting on it for a little bit. Fast forward, had it on SoundCloud. You know, a couple people was rocking with it. I was a little embarrassed about it for some reason because I hadn't did music in so long. And I feel like nobody was hitting me up with talking about it. So I deleted it.

And then somebody hit me up. It's like, yo, you got to put that back up online. So I was like, all right, best. And I did. SoundCloud, correct? Yep, SoundCloud. And it just started growing, like, week by week. I remember at this time, I think I got a different job at Papa Johns.

You go to Papa Johns. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was going back to my locker and I'm just like, update. You thought somebody was playing with you because the numbers kept going up, like, from thousands to 10,000. It felt fake. Yeah. I was like, you know, what's happening right now?

You're like, this is real viral, not bots. Yeah, no, for real. And this is before, yeah, all of that. So, yeah, at that point, then I got a call from Rich again. You know, I hadn't talking to Rich in a little, minute at this point, but I got a call from me. He's like, yo, Timbo won't holler at you, you know? And this is the first time that I really seen Timbo

showing the interest in my music at all. Because you had played Timberlin records before? Yeah, a long time ago, but, you know... Because I heard you said you thought he didn't like it. Yeah, no, he, I would say he didn't. He probably thought I was talented. But, you know, if you go back and listen to my shit from 2011, you can understand why Timblein was like...

Like, maybe he wasn't ready in his life. I wasn't ready. You know what I mean? I was still, you know, it makes perfect sense, you know? So, at this point, I, like, changed... excuse me i changed my sound up and um you know it was i had something to really grind for at that point you know i had my daughter and uh everything was just different i was like you know what am i going i'm not going to be too much of a singing singing that's a nigga you know what i'm just like kind of dumb it down a little bit and mix it up with a little bit of rap you know what i'm saying

and uh anyways got the call from timbo and then he was like yo come to come to Miami you know and that's that's when uh everything just went up from there for it okay so then when does drake coming into this, like, this picture. I feel like every week something crazy was happening, so I can't really 100% remember, but it was definitely after the moment because it sounded like you know you heard that story.

Yeah, I heard. The clips. But it was definitely after that when I was back in Louisville now at this point, jobless, trying to figure out what I was going to do next. As a Timmer said, quit your job. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because Timulah denies saying he never said that, right?

Yeah, did he say that? He did that. Yeah, I think you said that he never said. I think you called Rick. It's all good. We love Timlin. like that. We love Timbo the Cade.

It don't matter. None of that matters. It was meant to be. Which is the way happened. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I get back to Louisville and I'm stressed out, but the song is still climbing slowly. People's reaching out. And then it's crazy because I always have these wild-ass manifestation dreams.

And I was sleeping at a friend's house on the couch. Because at this point, I moved out of my girlfriend at the time's house. And, you know, I'm still sleeping on this couch, making music in the basement trying to like just keep my SoundCloud following fans happy. So I'm just like update new shit and I think I just put out a remix to a couple OVO because a lot of people

was like, yo, you need to sign the OVO, blah, blah, they were saying that. Everyone thought you were signed the OVO at one point. Yeah, this was before anything. So it was like you know, it sounds like you should be a part of day. You know what I mean? So I was like, dang, you know, I really love and admire everything that comes out of OVO. So I was like it makes sense. So one day I just decided to remix some OVO shit. I think

McCona was signed OVO one time at a party. next door or still sign the OVO but I remixed their songs called Don't Worry Molly remix and I posted it and went to sleep or whatever it was probably like

a little bit later after this but I remember I had this crazy vivid dream that I was on UK campus you know Drake fuck with UK basketball stuff so you know I'm on this campus and then you know people they're like yo bro we you know Drake's coming in town you know we're gonna play this

we're gonna play your don't for him and I was like for real and it was like yeah so then they in the dream they was like uh i saw him in the huddle drake was over in the huddle they all had blue jumpsuits on the shit right and he was like it's all right it's all right and i was like damn and then i remember waking up from that dream right i swear to god i woke up from that dream and um literally i got checked my twitter just said drake followed you on twitter and i was like i was like but you

this was a dream no no no this is out of the dream this out of the dream i woke up out of that dream the very next morning right like and i woke up and i woke up and I saw that he followed me. And I said, yo, bro, this is, this is crazy. Like, I didn't even want to get into the whole fact that I just had a dream. Right, right. I was like, yo, this is more crazy than you think. He's like, yo, I've been fucking with months or don't for months.

And that just blew my mind because it's like, in my dream, he was literally saying that he didn't fuck with. That he didn't. Okay. And I had no idea that this was about to happen. It was just some crazy manifestation of shit. I don't know. It's like God gave me a vision or something.

But yeah, that was when. So is it true that if he had he answered the text, you might be on OVO right to this day like I yeah what did he leave you on read or

you know he's just busy you were just busy you know I'm just busy you know I'm just busy you know I'm gonna be the music you know what I'm saying at this time bro's really going crazy

with all the music I'm sure he had everybody in his line but yeah I think that was the only thing that was keeping me from signing the bro okay well

let's get some are we ready for quick time and slow let's do it let's do it let's do it let's do it let's do it you ready for this part uh yeah okay

cool cool cool cool cool cool You got to fill your head. Let me see. Y'all, y'all sent it? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, but send part of it. Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

I love this shit. And by the way, they got the sake? Flavals. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, want to do the quick time of slime first or? Or what? Okay.

Okay, well, I've been trying to get you, to get you on this show to give you your flowers, to let you know how much you mean to the industry. The industry is a better place when you make it music, when you were part of it. So we wanted to give you your flowers face-to-face. Man-to-man, I don't know, I-da. Let's go, man.

Snoop dog said it's better than a Grammy because it comes from his people. And we wanted to give you your fucking flowers, because, bro, you really are something special. You really are. And you know what I love about you? Like, it's a rumor that you don't just go on the studio with anybody. Like, you have to actually feel it.

Don't ever change. I like that I love it I love it You know Some people Who would come to be like Yo you know

He's like They will credit that As being like Hard to work with Or whatever But I really don't understand why Yeah

No I understand it Because I'm an artist too You know what I'm saying But if I love the fact that money I can tell money Doesn't move you Have

Has there ever been the time Where it was tempted Like Like And You did something That cost of money You said

Did something that cost money? No No, no, because of money. And then you regretted it? Is that how like... Did money move you in any situation? Nah. Yeah, I can't think of what it is exactly, those moments, but I've definitely had those

moments, but when it comes to the, you know, music and whatnot, like, you know, people especially early on, just throwing all types of crazy numbers at me to do, to do certain songs, and I'd be like, you know, I just really want to... I was just nervous a lot of time. Right. You know, that was the big thing. But the main reason why I don't really like being in the studio with people is like, you know, just PTSD and trauma, you know,

from when I was younger, I'm being honest with you. Like, if I give you an example, I was 16 years old or 17, my bad recording songs. And I used to have this one guy, I'm not going to say his name. But he used to record me all the time. And, you know, he's recording me at FL Studio. And, yeah, I was just, I would cut school to go to the studio, go to his crib.

He was living in Louisville. And, yeah, he would play the beat. that he would record me because I didn't know how to do it. And then, you know, he would be trolling me sometimes, like, playing gunshots in my ear while I'm recording all types of, whatever, elephant noise is. And I'd be like, bro, I'm trying to make it, bro. Like, can you just stop, bro? And he would be laughing. He was like, you know, it's just trolling me and shit.

So at that point, I was just like, you know what? Like, can you teach me I record myself? Right. Talk me how to record myself. And at that point, I was just like, I'm just cut out the middle, man. I'm just doing myself. and I've been recording myself ever since. So let's get the correct.

You make the beats. I don't make the beats. You don't make the beats. Okay. But you engineer yourself? Yeah, I do that. Holy moly guacamole. Holy thing.

Is it that DJ Collett jumped over somewhere to get your vocals? That's what they say. What is this story about? I don't know. They say it was jumped over the fence, but I don't think he jumped over the fence. Listen, bro.

I know DJ Collet. He jumped over the fence. It works. He wouldn't do anything. But, you know, we got it done. You know, the story was, you know, I remember I told him when they played me the song for Wild Thoughts. That's what I was for us. Wild Thoughts came.

Because you didn't get to hear the Rihanna version until it actually came out, dropped, right? You played it from your phone. Yeah, I had the party next door version, but not only that, but the song was in a lower octave. And I reported it. I had already did my part, you know what I'm saying? And he hit me. I knew that she was going to record it in a higher octave. And I mentioned that to him, but he was like, no, we just need it done.

we needed. I was like, all right, cool, I got it done. And, you know, I didn't know how we was going figured, because I know they couldn't just pitch my vocals up. So, um, he came knocking on a day one, a horrible day that I was having. Like, they threw a surprise party for an album that I wasn't happy about. Right. Show up. My Lambo broke down that day. Like, it's a lot of time. Like, it was just a bad day over all. And, bro, it was like, yo, I need it tonight. Um, album release day. I was like, I can't do it tonight. You know what I mean? And I think Everybody wasn't answering the answer on the phone, and that's what happened yet. But we got it done, you know what I'm saying?

I think you said to, I think I read somewhere that you said to call it, like, I'm going through something. He was like, put it in the music. Yeah, yeah, that was a, the media took that one and they did that thing with that. Okay. But now what happened? That was early on when, if you, I mean, shit, you can go back and listen to it. It was, um, what the fuck is in the, the song with me and future on major key album.

You know what I mean? If you go listen to it, what the fuck I'm saying? I'm just talk. I literally did. that. And it's like, I ain't trying to listen to that shit. I was just super depressed. You know what I mean? That didn't even what I want to make music about. Right. You know, but like at that time, I was really going through all that shit that I was talking about on the song and I was stressed to fuck out because I was like, I didn't get here

to be beefing with niggins in the music industry or, you know, this person saying I owe him this or this person that literally I ain't spoke to in four years. You know what I mean? Talking about like, yo, you owe me, you know what I'm saying? It's just like, it was stressful for me to deal with. I had people leaving death threats on my car or my dad. daughter was in there sleeping while somewhere else had to fly back home figuring shit out CPS called to my crib come and asking my daughter inappropriate questions like all types of shit that was making me like really be like damn fuck the music is you know what I don't want to be a part of this shit at all like is this what my success is making people do you know what I'm

like and I remember that was a point where I um when once my daughter was born I kind of like I stopped talking to everybody like it wasn't because I knew I was going to be famous or whatever. I just, it's like, let me see who really fuck with me. For real. So, like, I stop fucking on people, started focusing on my job at UPS, getting other jobs. And, you know, there's only a couple people that was reaching out to me, Rich. You know, my boy Swan, you know, obviously close family members and whatnot. And other than that, you know, nobody else was reaching out to me. So, excuse me, whenever the song took off, don't. And then whenever I started have some success and all these people showing me love, Timela, and Drake, whoever, all these

people start knocking at the door like yo you switched up it's just like damn i switched up that was crazy that was wild that blew my mind so like at that point and then they really they really was like nah we got to we got to do something about this this guy you know what i mean this dude who like switched up on us so they just started pulling their trick out the you know what me i'm just like i had it out for you i'm like can i just make music and be happy better but like the industry was just beat me up man for a long time you know and i just I wasn't fucking with it So that was the whole reason why

I was like he was like put it in music You know I was like put it in the music But like Don't know I wanted that shit Were you were you musically trained in any way? No no not at all I'm really just a studio geek At the end of the day like

Because hearing you talk about the octas And all that Yeah yeah I'm sure most of people even work with my I don't know Fuck the octave Just go in and sing that shit Or not just know a little

A couple things you know Not for real But I just be in a studio Like fucking with shit And I like I mean that's still a lot That I don't know but, like, you know, that's part of you.

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I ain't gonna lie. Me hearing you talk about your second album, I'd be like, damn, I thought I was bad on myself. I actually had a line. Melvin Flint dropped. My whole colossal stop. I can't believe I fucked up and made a half-ass album. My excuse is my pops just died, and I ain't want to make music.

My pops just died. I hated my second album. And I listened to the critics. I listened to the haters. And you're probably the only other artists in the world that I know that related to that. I was sitting there watching all your interviews, and I was like, holy shit, somebody is just as hard on their self. But have you outgrown that? I want to say that there is a bit of a common misconception because every time I see these clips, I always see some of my fans coming to my defense.

Like, I just want him to know how good, blah, blah, I appreciate it. But I'm just like, yo, it's not about that. But the common misconception is this. Like, a lot of people think that I became depressed after my second album. It was after the first one. that everybody tells me now it's such a classic. And it was like, this, that, and the third, it was after that went, where I was, like, where I was fucked up.

You know what I'm saying? Trapsol came out. And this is just because, like, I said, like, the fame, all that, it was all new to me. So it was like, when it came out and I started seeing all these critics going crazy on Trapsol, that's when it made me to have imposter syndrome. And I was like, well, I don't know what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying?

I was like, I thought that I did something. It wasn't until about two years, two, three years after that, where people was really like, yo, this. this is a dope album you know what I'm saying but guess what I had a label had another tour a tour agreement that I had to fulfill I had to drop another album in the midst of me having imposter syndrome you know what I'm saying the exact story bro it's a terrible time to feel that way yeah exactly so it's like I didn't get time if I you know we talked about the money thing that that's it right there okay that's some money that I shouldn't have took at that moment

because it's like same exact thing with me I'm sorry I was because I relate to it so much was they had gave me so much money and how I'm going to tell them not to go to the studio. You know what I mean? Like I spent the money and I was definitely using it. So I was like I had to go to the studio, but it wasn't time for me. You know what I'm saying? So if you could do anything

to redo the process of making that album, what would you do? Different. I wouldn't have made it. I would have waited a while. I wouldn't have made it. But also I was going to say that I would have worked with writers. Because that was the era when everybody was like, platinum with no features.

Right. So everybody was so stuck on that. And then he was like, he went platinum with no features again. Right. And I was just like, damn, I feel like I got to go platinum with no features. Because I, you know, my first shit went platinum with no features.

I was like, all right, fuck it. I guess I'm going to go platinum with no features again. Did you do that? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so I'm talking. Yeah, we know what's going on out here. Let's go. Years later, though.

Yeah, okay. But it happened, though, you know. But anyways, I think I was so hung up on that. And like I said, imposter syndrome. So, like, a big part of me was like, man, you know, if I could go back in time, really what I would have did, I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have made an album. I would have waited to see what the fuck was going to happen with my first album. But I didn't have the luxury of doing that because, you know, money running drive and shit. So I'm like, damn, you know, what am I going to, you know, what I'm going to do so.

And you had your kid too, right? Got my kid. And, you know, at that point, it was a lot of pressure. I was just like, I can't go back to UPS. I can't go back to Papa John's. Right. You know, I got to do something. And that number was nice.

So I was like, hey, I'm going to take it, you know, I had to. And, yeah, it just put me, it really put me behind it, you know, after. And then that shit came out because, like I said, I went in in my mind. And then the critics went in. And that just really sent me to me deep in. But, like, following you, listening to you, I can tell that you let the critics get to you. Yeah, get to you. I did too.

I did too. Like, so I'm the same human being. Like, I, you know what's crazy? my first album, I got four and a half mics in the source, right? Which is a big deal. Which was a big deal.

So I was supposed to celebrate that. But my second album got three mics. And I celebrated the failure of the three mics more than I celebrated the success. And I let the people get to me. But for years later, it was people would have, you know, I would see them in the airport. And they'd be like, why the fuck would you just,

this album? The album changed my life. And I had to sit back and I had to say, you know what? This shit wasn't about me. So that's what I asked you. Did you go back to revisit that and say, like, you know, no, you answered the question, man, when you said... Yeah, I can't even listen to it.

You can't even listen to it? No, no. You know, the fans, maybe want me to do a couple on tour, so it's like, some of them I can, like, like, the more popular ones. But a lot of them is, like, it's the same shit with the Callet song. Like, when I hear the Callet song, I hear my second album. You know what I mean? And I'm just like, this is not.

where I need to be. He was like, put it into the music. That was literally what I did. I was like, I don't even know what to make music about. And I was like, fuck it. I'm just, I guess, put it in the music and talk about shit that I'm going through. And it's crazy because, like, you know, I remember one time I had another one that was manifestation dreams, actually.

And I was in Australia. And my manager at the time was like, yo, you know, actually, I skipped the part. I had a dream. I'm sleeping in the bed, whatever. And my dream, I was in my hood. my old hood in Louisville and they was a jet just flew down in the middle of the hood and jZ and jZ and biance got off of it and jZ was like you're having some old dreams bro i know right he was like yo what you doing here bro yeah i was just like i don't know and then like i don't know what happened but

i ended up waking up right my manager calls me he's like yo you know how you say you've been looking for a mentor right and i was like uh yeah he said yo jz won't talk to you i was like huh and he was like yeah i was like okay cool so you know i think lindy s put a put us on the group text or whatnot. Uh-huh. And then, you know, Jay-Z was talking to me about my second album. He was like, yo, man, I just want to say, you know, I appreciate, you know. Wow.

See? He's like, yo, I heard when you talked about this. And him just breaking down shit that I was saying really meant a lot to me. Like, man, that's crazy. Like, you know, even though I had, you know, the second album didn't perform or whatnot. Like, I had, you know, Jay-Z big up on that shit to me personally. That's huge. And that just made me be like, you know what?

Fuck it. Like, I just got to keep pushing forward. You know what I mean? Fucking awesome, bro. We've been able to take time and stuff? Yeah, yeah. You got said it? You explained to him in the game?

All right, so this is our drinking game. We're going to give you two choices. If you pick one of the choices, we don't drink. But if you say both or neither, like, we really don't want to pick anybody or whatever. Then we drink and everybody drinking. I got a feeling he's going to be one to be politically correct. And this ain't really to diss anybody. We just want to bring up stories.

Yeah, anything we bring up. If there's a story attached to anybody, you bring it up. And really, the choice is really. depending on whatever for you. It's your criteria. It's not who's better at anything specific. And then I've got to drink these right here, right? Yeah, that's sake.

Yeah, okay, okay. If you want. Okay. Yeah, you could sip too. By the way, we don't make up these questions. It's the cocaine section over there. The Colombian and the Dominican right there. They make up these questions.

So if you get mad at anybody, just look over there. Rich knows them both. He'll set it off. All right, this is this is one. I enjoy saying MJ or Prince MJ MJ? Okay, yeah, I mean

because I play video games and like I grew up with MJ, you know, Michael Jackson Moonwalkers, so, you know, you got your own video game dropped it? I do, right? It dropped already or no, no, no, no, I'm working on it. Okay, okay. Jodicee or 112? I'm gonna go 112.

I love Jodacy, but I'm gonna go 112 though. They got like different type of sauce and stuff. Okay. Chris Brown or Usher? I love Usher, but I'm going to go see Breezy. You just got off talk with him, too, right? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Jack Harlow or Boss Man Delo? I got to go with the home team. You know what I'm saying? I love Boss Man. I got to go with the home team. Good. Timberlinter or Farrell?

I'm going to take a shot for you This one's challenging because it's like Timlin Ah You take a shot Yeah I'll do some of my one in the next one

Ooh Okay I like all three The next ones, okay Yeah, you go to the next You take the next one Boy Wonder or Charlie Heat That's a crazy question, man. Charlie.

Okay, okay. Charlie, yo, hold on, wait, no, I didn't pick you. Okay, my bad. I was just talking to my brother directly. Okay, okay. It's so hard because, like, Charlie, my favorite, Charlie my favorite producer ever, you know what I mean? Because he just, you know, he's my favorite producer I've ever worked with because he'd just be grinding. He's always, always ready to work on some new shit.

You know, we try everything. You know, we didn't did a Paul Patrol song to a Michael Jackson, that song, to a rap song. Like, just everything. You did the Paw Patrol zone? Yeah, we did, yeah. Damn. My son's gonna be more hype about it when I get back on. Yeah, tell him,

uh, it's going down like that. That's me. Um, he'll know it. Um, but anyways, um, but in Boy Wonder, he's just somebody that's just been, you know, me and him, we probably only got like two records together or something, three, I don't know, but like,

he just super down the earth guy and, uh, probably one of my best friends in the music industry for show because he's always kept it solid, so I, I got to take a shot. I'm taking a shot with you, man. Follow. Cheers, Cheers. Stevie Wonder or Lionel Ritchie?

And by the way, Stevie. Stevie. Did you see the new story that we just put out about Stevie again? No. We need Stevie on drinks already, man. I think if I see Stevie...

No, no. When he sees you. When he sees me, he's going to snubbed. He's going to snubbed. So we just... Dion Cole on here. And Dion Cole said that Stevie Wonder back this girl.

Damn. And then told him to stop acting like a bitch. Denise said to tell him, stop acting like a bitch. Steve's gangster. Well, I don't think Stevie gets our jokes anymore. I think Stevie's mad at us, bro.

No, I think he got a good sense of you, man. I'm not sure. There's too many stories, man. So too many stories, people have come on here. So the Isley brothers came on here said they've seen Stevie J, Stevie Wonder, crossing the highway. A busy street Not the highway, man

A busy street Whatever So I don't think He's finding our jokes funny anymore All right I'm gonna go ahead Next one No, did he's picked

Stevie Wonder I did Okay okay okay Okay I want to ask this one Go ahead Drake or Torrey Lanes Drake

Okay You got records for both You said I got You got records for both Right but ain't about that You know I love Tori Tori's super dope

artist I think He's just amazing you know um but i grew up with drake you know okay straight so now let me ask the more controversy question drake or kendrick um that's easy i mean i love kensig labar but it's drake okay because of your relationship okay yeah because relationship but it's like i just that's the music that i've studied like got got it you know like yeah makes sense cool Al Green or Marvin Gay Marvin Gay?

Okay Whitney Houston Did y'all put three in this one? They went crazy Whitney Houston or Mariah Carey? Um

It's the cocaine section You're gonna get roped up one of these days I just gonna knock and grab you bad I'm gonna go Mariah Carey. Okay. I'm not answering this one. You're asking that one. Beyonce or Rihanna?

Please take a shot. Cheers. Kanye or Swiss Beats? Damme? Let me go, yeah. Okay. total or SWV SWV

okay Curtis Mayfield or Slice Stone I don't know Slice Stone but I do know of Curtis Mayfield so you're going to Kurtz I'm going to go Curtis DJ Collett or DJ Drama

I love you drama but I got to go with my brother Callet man that's right he's climbing over the walls and gates and shit like that you got to go with the more Fat Joe or Rick Ross

I got to say fat joke just because, like, you know, I got, you know, Rich's one of Riches best friends. And also he's just like one of the first famous people I've been around. You know what I mean? That's like treating me, you know, like a human. That's all right. I got to make some noise. That's fine.

But, all right, we got one more. They were going to send a couple more. Okay, but that's a question. Did you ever have a chance? to go be on the terrorist squad uh huh was that something is that a question for home think so i don't think so i mean fat jo to me don't seem like type of guy that is ready to snatch up artists like you know even rich like you're saying like rich like you know rich could have made money off me plenty of times and just never wanted to like you know i want you to be in the best

possible situation i don't want to that that's that's that's i don't want to just i mean i don't just be a manager or sign you to my homie just because, like, I can get paid off of it. He wanted me to be in the best situation. Right. And I thought, that's what I. Have you and Joe ever worked together? Yeah, I did a song. I did a song from a long time ago.

Oh, wait, and then I did another song with him. And when he did an album with, with Dre, with Koole-Drey. Okay. I did that song, yeah, we worked with. Okay. So I'm going to take a shot for that. Yeah.

But the last one? No, there's a couple more. Oh, a couple more. Okay, okay, okay. T-dollar sign or T-P. Pain. I'm going to go Teddy, Teddy Pendergrass. Don't you got a joint with T. Payne and, um, Ply's? Huh?

Um, don't you got a joint with T-Pain and Plyce? Uh, yeah, I do, actually. But, you know, I don't really like, Teddy, no, no, no, I do. I just got caught up on the fact because I was like, Teddy Paine is a lot of to say, not Teddy Pendergars. But I remember I heard him say that on his album. I was like, you know, Teddy Paine. But anyways, T-Pain is somebody like, my uncle gave me a CD.

It was an Epiphany album. And I was just like, in love, that's my favorite T-Pain album ever. No, even though he had so many other hits and shit. Yeah, I really studied that album a lot. Yeah, T. Payne's like, they're the ghosts for me. Okay. Lauren Hill or Erica Badoo? Uh,

Oh, Lauren Hill. Little baby or duh baby? Hmm. Damn. Uh, I don't the baby baby Hey all babies

You can say both Neither I can say both Yeah yeah I don't know But I thought I had to take a shot Yeah Both is

You gotta take a shot Yeah yeah Yeah I'll take a shot Yeah I mean I'll say both I'm okay Salo Alcass or UGK

Um Alcass Shout out the Bum Bito The great guy Shout out Bambi man He's always treated me Respect Another one of those people

That's like down the earth we've been repeating this this next one a lot I think Niz doesn't care but I think Jada Kis is going to start Didn't he ask a long time ago for me to stop saying it And Jay Dikus is asking me to take this out

He's retired But he's in the game now Or Jada Kis Well you know I'm probably the wrong person to ask It's just because like I studied mostly R&B growing up

I didn't start studying rap until I was like I don't know 19 years old or something I guess So I can't I don't know I don't know

I mean, I guess as a casual hip-hop listener, I mean, I listen to more of it now, but I would say, nah, okay, all right, cool. The bars or Earth went and fire? Earth, went and fire. Okay. All right, now this is last one. Let me go back to the interview.

Yeah, I'm on. Loyalty or respect? Hmm. I got, I'm going to go with respect. That's a crazy question. I like that. I'm going to respect. I mean, but don't they, ain't they kind of hand-in-hand?

That's why I'm thinking. Yeah, that's why I want them both. We think I want them both. Because if you're not loyal, how could you respect me? That's what I agree with you. Salo, so I'm down. Yes. This is something I want to ask you, person.

Do you enjoy being a part of the industry? Do I enjoy being a part of the music industry? Yeah, yeah. Fuck me. No, you don't. Hell no. I believe you, man. I'm like, nothing about it.

So I'm making this game. Through industry, you know? Right. You know, some of you mentioned respect, it just got me thinking, like, you know, I might get a lot of respect from, like, fans and, you know, the consumers and whatnot out there. And then sometimes, maybe not. But, you know, a lot of time I always really wanted to respect to my peers. And the ones that are, like, in it, like, really in it. And, like, I'm still out here competing to be number one or whatever.

I feel like I don't really ever get the respect from now. And I'm a type of person, like, I feel like when I came into the industry, and I should probably still know. There's a lot of people that treat me like I'm a threat or something. You're a threat, you said? A threat, yeah. And I don't want to think that. But, like, the way they treat me day to day, you know, I've been there shit 10 years.

There's so many people that I can name that, like, I've been. We're celebrating 10 years of trap soul, right? Yeah, yeah. But there's so many people that I feel like I've reached out to or tried to talk to or try to get a meeting with for five minutes and they'd just be blowing me off or treat me like I'm just like

some funky-ass, a nigga that's trying to be around the fame and shit. I heard you say that and I couldn't believe like when I forget what interview this was and I was searching you and then they said the T-Pain features

and it was like they were saying that how they loved that you went and got T-Pain and plies And then they mentioned some other artists that I'm not going to name. And then you said, well, I can't even get them on the phone. And I was just like, is that you? Or is that them? It's them because it's like, I reach out.

Like, I like, I'm a man, man. And I like, I like conversation. We got a problem. We ain't got to fight. You know what I'm saying? We ain't got to go back and forth. Like, we could just as men, sit down and talk about it. And nobody ever got to know about it.

Like, I don't know what the problem be. Like, a lot of people would be saying it's like, oh, I'm just busy. And they always put it on that. you know, even Jay-Z hit me back every time I sent him a message and, you know, I imagine he's one of the busiest motherfuck going to play. You know, so these people

that ain't nowhere even near that, you know, I get it. We all kings, we all got our own kingdoms and we got people that's trying to get some of them from us. You know, I'm sure you got 20 people trying to get in time to contact with you right now. Absolutely. Absolutely. And like, I respect that.

But like, also I feel like, you know, if somebody was calling me saying, nor are you trying to get in touch with you, you know, he really really want to talk to you. I'm going to, we're going to have a conversation. You know, we're going to have a conversation at something. But, like, so I always felt like if I did the same thing, maybe people would give me that same respect.

Like, y'all, I'm trying to get into contact so we can, like, either talk about a record or let me show you something I'm working on, and it would just be crickets. Not even no answer. Nothing. Listen, I believe you because you're saying it. I swear to God. But I can't imagine that shit, bro.

Like, I'm being honest with you. Like, I don't see an artist right now not picking up Brexton. I swear to God. Like, I swear to God. They all don't say it's because they're busy. Listen, I've studied you enough to know that. If I bring up an artist's name, you're going to say it. You're not going to say nothing.

So I know that, but. Because I care about them. You know what I want to put them out. Because I know what the media are going to do. They're going to take this interview. Of course. They're going to clip a little, you know what I'm saying? Of course.

Take it out of context. Yeah, it's like Shade Room. They're going to post some shit. The next thing, you know, all the people are going to be saying. And I just, I don't want to do them like that. I don't want to bring that on them because I care. Yeah. And you sure.

now this is me asking as a person because I know the industry and a lot of the times artists will sit right in the position that you're at and they'll say you know how it is Norrie right and yeah I do I know how it is but we're not speaking to me

we're speaking to this whole audience is it you reaching out is it management because I can't see like I'm just throw out a random name right it's not going to be a real person but Cannes reaches out Bryce and Tiller reaches out the can can is as high as hollering back

I can't see that especially 15 million sold or the success that you have I don't see nobody not picking up your phone call You know what I thought that same I swear to God I swear I thought that same thing As soon as they told me I called like 10 people to verify that that was even real

I was like yo is this real Is this true? Because if it is I'm not to reach out to a couple people You know what I mean that I want to talk to about my game and whatnot Reach out to him And, you know, I sent them the thing that they saw me, like, yo, you know, thinking, like, maybe that's what, maybe that's what they respect, you know what I mean.

I was like, okay, they don't, they might not respect me, but maybe they just respect winners. So I was like, maybe they're intimidated. It sounds like a win to me. You never know. Possibly. I was like, that sounds like a win to me. So I was like, reach out to a couple people still, to this day, I can show you no response. I was like, yo, man, just, I don't know, man.

Yeah, I do be reaching out to him personally. It's not management to me. Okay. And, you know, who knows? I just feel like if you got a problem, just hit my phone. You know what I'm saying? If it's whatever it is, it don't matter. Like, I feel like people in the industry, there's to be so many beefs between artists.

And I just, I'm for the people, you know what I mean? And I feel like the people need music and the fact that we can't collaborate, like, fucking, we even got to collaborate on music. Like, I don't even fuck about that. But, like, you know what I mean? Some people look at it like, oh, maybe he just want the clout. You know what I mean? What does it do for me to do with? a feature with you.

Like, it's doing more for you than it is for me. Some people look at it like that, and they're like, I'm not working on him. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what happens to me all the time. Like, so I just don't. I don't, that's why I don't bother collaborating with people because, like, what's the point?

Man. And people think it's me. They say, oh, I'm part of the way. Yeah, they think it's you. I'm like, bro, I'm here. Like, that's the same place. Adam, you know, it's crazy. And I don't want to say, well, I've seen you.

I seen you. You were cool as shit. And I'm sitting back. I'm like, wait a minute. These people think that, like, you're a dick, right? They might think you're a dick, right? Because you, you know what I mean? But I've seen you cool, calm, collective.

And I'm like, holy shit. Do you think that's a rumor about you that you don't want to collab with people? You don't want to be. But here's the thing. Like, that was, when I first came into the industry, a lot of people was ringing my manager phone at the time. Yo, we want to get till on the song. And it was just like, it was overwhelming. Right.

Because, like, at that time, like, I didn't even have time. Like, when people would be like, yo, you got anything that she was working on when you was working on trap. So I'm like, nah, because, like, I had to go on tour right after that shit. And I was so fucked up about the idea that I had to be on stage in front of people for the first time that I was like, I ain't had no time to make music. You know what I'm saying? So that was all I was thinking about. Right. And people was reaching out, like, yo, we need you on the song.

And I was just like, I just can't do features right now. Like, not because I don't fuck with these artists, but just because, like, I literally don't even have time to make music for myself. You know what I'm saying? So that was the main reason. So maybe that, you know, I ran into one of them artists, actually. I ain't going to say his name. No problem.

But, uh, I ain't going to say his name. But I ran into him at the hit factor and he was like, yeah, man, your manager told me you ain't trying to do speech with people, man. That's lame, man. That's lame, man. That was the real one about you. Yeah. That was the real one about you.

I'm like, bro. I said, I'm here right now. What's up? Yeah, yeah. I think I played him some shit. He was like, look, I'm going to do it. I'm a, like, he put a verse on that bitch and it came out, like, a week or two later.

But let me, let me, let me give you a problem. Let me just let you know. I've been in this music business. After Traps'Ole, you changed the whole game. All right, don't tell, okay, I was going to say. You changed the whole game. No, no, this is, this is this. Hey, you're not going to, but I'll beg you on

because I know you, I can, I can feel your humbleness. But, like, the way music is made now has changed since Traps'Ole. And we're celebrating 10 years, correct? Yeah. You're going to take a shot for that? Yeah, I do. Yeah, hell yeah. Come on.

I got champagne. Champagne is doing the share parking name. Little problem. Mind. Do you realize what trap soul did to the... People always say that to me, and I don't ever hear it or see it, to be honest with you. You're just too humble, man. No, no, I just don't see it.

Like, I'm just being honest. Like, I hear... Like, I don't hear what they hear. Maybe they hear it. But, like, for me, I just hear people making music. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's all I. Well, well, and I, and I see.

in an interview where they asked you about this and they say that you actually have babies out there people who follow exactly trapped soul and I know you don't want to claim it I was talking to some of my

homies at OVO at this party one time Chubs and Prane Big up Chubs, that's my amprene both of them to my people and they was pissed at me because I was like it's like yo such and such as your son I know the story they said it's your son at the club at the club Come on, I'm going, I'm going to point, come on, bro, at the club.

Yeah, I was like, bro, no, I was like, no, they know my son. Because you didn't like the fact that they was calling him a son. Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like, because anytime I heard sons in hip-hop, it's like, you know what I mean, the way rappers use it, like, yo, this so-and-so is my son. And it's always some shit that's putting them down in the rap. Yeah, but I'm just like, nah, it's like, not always, not always, yes, yes. You got a shit, you got to tell me a time so I go listen to you.

It's just saying, like, I'm the OG and they, they're coming up behind me, That's really, I guess, I get it. When he explained it to me, I was like, okay, I get it. You know what I mean? But I ain't, you know, I just don't ever want an artist to feel like I'm nay daddy, you know what I'm saying? I get that part. I'll just say it, like, I ain't ever want that. Like, you just inspired by me, you know what I'm saying?

You took, you know, a page out of my book, study my, you know, you're going to make it your own. You know, they say a thief steals, but a genius borrows. And, you know, for the artists that do that, you know. But yeah, now, it's cool. I get the whole, you got some babies. out there. I get it. No, it's the truth. It's the truth. Like, you know what I mean? Uh, me personally, you know, sorry to keep twisting it to me, but there was a whole genre after I worked with Farrell. Like people didn't want to work with Farrell and then people just followed that

thing. And that's why it reminds me a trap. So with you is because, uh, after that, people follow you and they mimicked and they made music exactly sounding like you and I know you humble enough not to be like fuck them oh that's my son you ain't claiming that shit at all but

you do recognize people who are following you I don't recognize that no I mean I've seen people come out with albums called Trap Soul and like you know what I mean or went out or they'll tell me that they like I'm their favorite artist and they'll make music I didn't see that but like you know I mean you can say it differently you inspired a movement

It's probably a better way to say it. Yeah, yeah. But, like, no, I don't really see it. So if, if, let me, so let me ask your question. God comes down to earth. Have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers? And what is this?

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You're going to make one record to save humanity. You get one feature and one producer. Who you call in? Dang. One feature. And if you want to make it easier for you, dead or alive. That are alive? Okay. Do I get to,

do I get as many chances with that? Like, let's say this feature does a hundred, can they do 100 verses until I get it right? I'm fucking, I've never, I've never, I've never got to answer to that, but I'm with you. I'm in the studio time. I'm letting in studio time, but he's a producer, because the producer might not get it right.

I should, I might not get it right. You know what I mean? Like, I just want to want to try. I'm probably, I'm going to go with my boy Charlie Heat, for show. Wow. As a producer. As a producer. Uh-huh.

Just because I believe in them so much. And then as the feature. Uh, and I get to, like, vocal produce everything. Like, I get to really craft this. shit together. You save him in. I'm going with Drake. Yeah.

I can see it. You've vocal produced him? No, no, I never vocal. Oh, okay, okay. No, no, no. But, like, if I could, like, be like, y'all and we got to do it like this and, you know what I'm saying?

Right. And really be a part of, I would go with, bro. Is there anybody, like, you know, we got these collab albums that's, like, being popular now. is there anybody you do a collab album with? Yeah, it was a bunch of people.

I'll do one with Future for show. I really love Future. Like, pick up the future. Just seen another day. Oh, yeah, that's right. And we squashed it. We had a little... And we squashed it.

And I told him I'm sorry for my bad part up there. What was the shit that you have? Let's not even talk about the good part. And thank you, Future, because he was actually right. And I, you know what I mean? Pick him up.

But that's a lot. You on Future. Yeah, yeah, I would love to do some shit with Future. Just because, like, you know, future, you got the melodies for show. You got the cadences. And, like, you know, I understand, like, rap music. Like, I studied his catalog for a long time. You know, if it wasn't for him, I would have so much shit that I would have just would have never made.

You know what I mean? But I feel like we would make some real dope shit, not just for the ladies, but just for the fellas who love ladies. What do you love more? Rapping or? Oh, yeah, I wonder. What I love? I mean, R&B is my first love, but I always say with rapping, I can say more. You know, singing is like, it's a lot more slow pace.

And, yeah, with rapping, I don't know, it's just like a million words that I could say in 16 bars versus, you know. When was the moment you decided I want to start with, right, man. I started rapping because of, who did I started rapping because of, I got a credit C, is a person that made me want to start rapping but also Chris Brown? You say CB, Chris Brown,

yeah, yeah, yeah, we got to come yeah, yeah, man, is there another CB? Yeah, I don't know. We don't know, we don't know.

We got multiple generation anybody call him TV, man. Anyways, yeah, yeah, he's a person that made me want. Like, you can relate to him because he was a singer

and he was a rap but like, for me, like I was like, y'all, I really want to really, really mean rap. And I feel like, even y'all ain't never heard me really, really rap.

And I could play out from today. You got a double album. You get the double album. I heard some shit. And I was like, no, he could spit. I mean, you can listen to Minnie Kelly, you know, on vices, you know what I mean, and hear me spit and whatnot. But I got some other songs and whatnot where it's like, I think that's the hardest part

about being me, bro, like, because it's like, you know, I really don't feel like there's a, it's like a catch-22 almost because it's not a singer out there that can rap better than me. And there's not a rapper that can sing better than me. So I was like, I'm like, but where do I fit in in this industry? But to answer your question, I probably, yeah, I mean, singing more. And who made me want to rap? Or when did I start taking rap series?

There was a verse that Jay-V did on a song called Click. And I remember, you know, for a long time, Wayne was my favorite rapper for a long time. I got to say, I can't believe I forgot, bro. He's the main person that made me want to rap. Oh, Little Wayne. Yeah, Little Wayne. But then when I seen, when I seen, when I seen. When I seen Pete be doing it, I was like, oh, yeah, maybe I should try it.

Fuck it. You know what I mean? I started trying. And, but, you know, I was never really that good at it. Like, if you go back to my 2011, 2011, 2010 shit, I wasn't that good at it. And then I heard people used to always say Jay-V was the best rapper, best rapper to ever do it. And I was alive. For me, I never really understood it because, and then I heard him say something one time.

It's like, yo, people just ain't listening. So they can't catch up to what I'm saying. Something like that. And then one day. You know, I just heard, like, you know, it was just like mumbo-jumbo, you know, for me as a person who didn't really listen to rap music, but Wayne somehow connected to me. But one day, on the way to work, UPS, this click verse was playing. And then he said everything he said on that verse, and I said, yo, I get it. It was like, it was like, yo, I fucking get it.

Jay-Z is the best. I was like, yo, hold up. I was like, let me go back. Let me listen to all this man shit. Then I started listening. I started understanding. I don't know if I got smarter or what the fuck. You caught up to him.

I got smarter. Then I finally start understanding what bro was saying. But, like, I started, because I really appreciate words. You know what I'm saying? So he really is a wordsmith for real. So, like, I started listening to everything you're saying. I was like, yeah, I got to get better at rapping for show. You know what I mean?

And then, yeah, that's kind of. Jay-Z's first album, I didn't even get it. I wasn't getting money at the time. Then I started getting money. I was like, I like this album. He couldn't relate to it. Fantastic. Let's share a case of money.

I'm sorry. All right. I've been looking at your wrist this whole time. I'm a watch Carnosaur. Those are VBS diamonds. That is a very beautiful watch. What is that? This is Rich.

Can you help me out here? It's obvious, right? That's Avi and Colt? That's Avi and Colt. Can you show it to the camera, please? Because holy shit. It's blinding people. It's blinding.

I ain't a lot I stick out some breezy bow dust on it I ain't clean this one You ain't click Yeah it It looks brand new I appreciate it I only got it because

I mean because of the tour And shit I was like you know what I ain't got no background dancers None of that So I was like Fuck I need some

Some type of Some dancing You know what I'm saying What I'm saying What I'm talking Don't talk Did you just He could

He said This is my background Dats I'm never heard of that I'm still I'm going to feel that so bad. Yo, his, his risk is his background dances, motherfucker. Believe that.

Holy moly guacamone. Yo, that is a beautiful, beautiful watch. Are you in the watches? No, not really. Not really. No. You're not in the shit. I literally only got it for that.

He's like, he's not really not really. I'm going to take a shot this movie. But you just, yo, but, yo, I ain't going to lie to you. I admire that for you. Like, the fact that the industry hasn't you know what I'm saying I see a motherfucker into

this industry and the way they come pause the way they enter and the way they it hasn't consumed you. It's too different you ain't let it affect you you didn't let it make you a bad person. Trust me, I've saw it awe. Thank you.

And I'm going to take a shot to you being human. Thank you, bro. I appreciate it. That's real shit. Human. That was a crazy pause though. You didn't know my bad. Thank you, though. You know what I'm trying to say. Yeah, yeah, I got it.

Yes, thank you. Thank you for correcting why he paused me. Thank you. But you have no idea how many people you see coming up, pause. And when it's time for them to, you know what I mean? Then that's when they want to be humble. That's when they want to be cool people. And then no one takes their call then.

Yeah. But boy, when they're there. homie calmate come out of the I tell him calmate I've been here 25 years

I'm gonna stay here you might not here I'm sorry I went I went I went crazy I went

now but for real man like yo yo um I I watched Rory and Maw your interview. Mm-hmm. And Rory just called me this is funny as hell.

And Rory said that the time that he went to your show, it was the most females he ever seen in New York City come out. I mean, but you got a, it's the breezy bubble, like, of course. You know what I'm saying? No, this is your show. No, I mean, but like they were there for the, you know. No, they said this is your show. Yeah, but it doesn't count, right?

I don't think you're talking about my show it was your show oh yeah come on you can't pick yourself up man Rory said that he went to your show at Webster Hall and it was the most females in New York City that he ever saw

did you know that I mean he said it to you he might say it to me yeah yeah he said it to you but you know home you know he never know is that is that something

does that make you a sex similar No, definitely not. Do you think you a sex symbol? No, but you make sexy fucking music, right? I appreciate that, man. I appreciate that. No, I'm just a nerd, man. I just be sure.

That was a lot. I'm a gamer, man. I just be chilling, like, you know, the girls are like me, like me, and the girls who don't, you know, whatever. I just make music and, you know, for people who, you know, love women and I appreciate women a lot. So, you know, they are so you don't think you're the new Al-a-O-J?

Definitely not. I'll be sure. None of those. None of those. I'm just the guy who's, I'm just a guy who's in the house. Goddeme. Let's make some of Bryce.

I'm going to take a shot for you, man, because I wanted to give you your flowers. Salo, salo. Oh, shit, you're going to take a shot? I don't want to. And I just want to say something real quick. I just want everybody to know

that I just ran the New York City motherfucking marijuana. I take a shot for that. This is, No other artists, I would have came out for, pause. It's just turning to horses, worthy moment. I could stop that shit, bro. But I would have been in bed.

Yeah. But they said, we got Bryson Della, and I said, I'm coming out. He came at shivering, and he was like, yeah. For you, motherfucker, because you, the motherfucker. So is there anything that you feel? like you didn't do in the industry that you that this is something that you want to get a accomplished um i really collaborated with all the people that i would have loved to collaborate i won't name the names but like i really love well let's throw it out there in a positive way

yeah yeah i well i love artists i love people that create things i appreciate icons i appreciate people who you know it's not easy to bring people out to your shows you know right right thousand people, 5,000 people, 10,000 people, some people doing 50,000, 60. The Breezy Bow is crazy. So it's like, anybody that can do that, like, I appreciate them. You know what I'm saying? You know, there's so many people that I would just have loved to work with. Not because I feel like it could do something for me or like it's going to bring me more money or more fans or like I get a chance to shit on them on the song and sang better than them or rap better than them.

But just because we get to make something. Create people to, you know, to just enjoy and live with for their life, you know. And there's a lot of people in the industry that I really never got the chance to, like, sit in the studio and chop it up with and be like, yo, whatever. And then we make a song, you know, I used to think that that's how the music industry was, like, you know, because in high school, I wasn't really the cool guy. So, you know, but I was really fucking good in music. So I was like, you know, that made me cool. So whenever I started looking at the music industry, I was like, okay, shit, when I get the music industry, it's going to be like, I'm meeting all my people. This is my table right here.

Like, all the people in high school, they weren't, you know, I had no table there. But, like, this is my table. And then I got there, and it just was, like, more tables. A lot of tables. I was like, God, damn, you know? And I was just like, holy shit. So that's probably the one thing that I haven't done. You want me to throw out a couple of features that I think?

I would like, Chaudet. Shadee? Shadee. I love Shade. That would be. I don't know if she'd ever come out the, you know. Yeah, her, she don't come out. Yeah. But I would do that.

I would do that. Who's producing that? I mean, probably Charlie Heath But honestly, I was at her dude I was like, yo, Shadeh, what do you need me to do? Like, if it's just an ad lib, if I just got to sing in a lower octave under you and I don't even get no shot in time,

like no verse. You're just singing backup. I don't give a damn, you know, like, I'm doing it. Good. I'm taking a shot for that, too. So I look. You're still on your chair parking day? He's still on the champagne?

Okay. How about a joint with Jodacy? Hell yeah I do that I want them to push me to be a better singer for sure You know So I would try to do some shit

That I never done before Now Drink up Drink up Yeah Who is somebody you would want to write for Um CB

Drake Those are people always name for I mean name A lot of female artists Um You know I haven't really gotten into my songwriting bag So, like, to be honest, like, it's hard for me to really to say, but those are the people that come to mind, like, right away.

And then honestly, newer artists who, you know, don't have nothing at all, like, hey, let me write from shit for you. Like, if there's somebody out there, honestly, another thing is like, at first, a rapper with a really, really, really, really good rapping voice, I would write for them. Just because, like, the thing that about me is, like, the fact that I'm a singer, you know, people would never in a million years ever take me serious. as a rapper. It's just how it goes. When you sing really good or whatever, you make really good R&B songs and then you rap, they're just going to be like, yeah, you're trying to rap. Even if you rap... Right, they won't

get a higher level than anybody else, you know what I'm saying? It's just like, nah, you're trying to blah, blah, or like, I don't like when you rap, or whatever. So I would take all my raps and I would give it to somebody who has that rap, you know, rapper voice and that rapper energy, you know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Do you think... Like, one time I'll I came outside, right? I was in Puerto Rico, in fact. I'm going to Puerto Rico tonight. And a dude bumped into me. And he sung me my song as he was dissing me. As he was dissing you?

Yeah. He was like, boi-co. And I looked at him. It's awesome to me. But I looked at this guy and I was like, holy shit. And I knew that record is bigger than me. right but he knew it was you right hell no

oh that's even crazy hell no hell no like the video wasn't really out like that like you know what I mean he did this was like a random Puerto Rican in Puerto Rico maybe he thought you looked like oh no the video wasn't out yet so he's no he just really wanted beefing me and I'm wanting beefing him too

and he just had that song stuck in his head yes yes do you like do you think that music sometimes supersedes a person's image yeah absolutely that absolutely I'm like, I'm one of those people. You know, there's so many people that have you like, I never know what you look like.

There'd be some people that'd be trying so hard to not know what I look like. Because you're like, you're like hip-hop's Clark Kent. Yeah. Like, you get what I'm trying to say? Like, you can put on your cape when you go perform, but then you can take it off and go no. And be elusive and shit.

And as I said, I seen you in a restaurant, you was mad low. I was like, you ain't low, niggum. I see you. But what I'm saying is. That's fucking, that's genius. Yeah. That's genius that you can do.

Do you feel like, uh, because this is a very hard question. Do you even like being famous? Nah. I was just talking to somebody about this earlier. Nah. Just because, I mean, it definitely has this perks, you know,

but like. Like, you don't want to wait in, there's a couple of perks in the restaurant. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Like, I get to skip a few places in the Applebee's. Yeah. I guess that's okay, you know. Like, that's the one thing.

And the other thing is, like, you know, you still get to use your fame to get money later on in life, you know? And that's cool. But other than that, what other perks does it really have to being famous, you know? I admire you, bro. Yeah, it's just like, you know, I've never been, don't get me wrong. And the first year when I came out, like, it was cool to see people knowing who I was, but mainly because I love music so much and the fact that people knew my music and they see me on the street. It was different.

You know what I'm saying? It was like, oh, shit. Like, people recognized me. Um, but like, after a while, I was like, okay, uh, I don't, I don't care if you're famous at all. Like, like, like, I don't give a different individual, bro. Like, I don't give a fuck about, like, I'll be the nigga waiting outside in the line to get in a club if I have to, like, I don't be trying to skip line and shit. Like, I'd be chilling, you know? No. And I'll just blend it. You skipping the line, huh? Huh? You skip a, let's your individual. Look, look, Josie, you have a question? You have any questions? You want to call home? Joe, this is your biggest fan, just as you know. That's, that's good. We got a song, we got a song coming out.

Let's repeat, what is it, she said? Kalani. Oh, okay. Yes. Yeah, shout out to K. Lonnie, man. We've been friends for a long time. You know, we both kind of came into the music industry somewhere around the same time. And, yeah, we got, we got a song together.

You know, we always just been, you know, real friends. So, like, you know, we never forced the music. But we do have something that I think might be coming out. But I don't know. I'm going to take a shot for that I'm sorry man So what is I know I asked this earlier

So I'm going to ask this in reverse Because I asked alive And you picked Drake So now I would like What would be your dream Collab of a person that's passed away Who would you dig up from the grave

it has to be music right no shit I mean go ahead pick anybody now that sounds like you're going in the direction like I love

I swear God I love music so much but like not to the point where I want to dig him up out of the grave okay who you want to be like graves like man I wish I swear I wish you could have did a song like I don't think I like I don't think I cared that much about music

but if there's somebody that I was like Like, I just wish I could have picked their brain and just talk to them and tell them, tell them about my ideas. It would be Steve Jobs for sure. Mm. Yeah. I didn't expect that, but I didn't think that either. I'm really, really curious about just, like, what was going on inside of his mind, you know, and what he was thinking about. Okay.

So let me ask you this. Speaking of Steve Jobs, do you respect streaming? Streaming? Yeah. Well, I got to say, streaming is the main reason why I'm the highest certified. R&B song so like I remember at one point people were mad at you for loading up in SoundCloud they wanted you to stay on Apple they wanted you to be on Spotify you kept you kept going back to SoundCloud I mean but SoundCloud is still

streaming yeah it's still streaming but it's almost like free though like giving you free and a lot of people don't really I mean sorry SoundCloud but there's a lot of people that don't have it you know I mean they go on the Spotify they go into yeah that platform's not widely used as much as yeah but I got us you know soft spot a special place in my heart for SoundCloud because for one reason and one reason only really is just because it's just it. It's lit.

Not just that. That too. 100,000%. And in this instant, like, when I'm feeling something and I love what I'm doing, I'm like, I got to drop this tonight. Right, you can control when that comes out of me. Yeah, I can drop. I can literally go on my computer. Yeah, that is, that is

I can't do that with Apple Music. I can't do that with Spotify. I got to call, this person and that person. I can't a second for the I got a clear in a sample. As an artist, I ain't really trying to do all that. You know what I mean? Like, if I'm just feeling something, you know, fans be like, we want music, we want music. You know what I'm saying?

I feel like SoundCloud is the easiest way. But, you know, so a lot of times when I did that, they would be pissed because they're like, why you still dropping on SoundCloud? Like, you know, you're getting free music. What are you talking about? A lot of artists came off of SoundCloud. There was a whole generation of artists. I've discovered in Southlis.

He's the king. Yeah, yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Like, you got to give SoundCloud his credit. Yes, yes, yeah, we will. And now it was another time you posted a picture online with your girl. People were mad at you that you were happy.

That happened, yeah. What the fuck is this? Yeah. So is it true that they want you guys to be sad to make... A thousand percent. They think that you have to be sad to make good music. That's the reason why they were unhappy? They wanted you to be...

They want me to be sad. They would always tell my girl, like, you know, break his heart so we can get a new... Man, what kind of terrible fans is that, man? No, this is... It's horrible. It's horrible. Those are terrible fans, man. Yeah, yeah.

Yes. Do you believe that? That you have to go through pain to make good music? Nah, that's not the case at all, because a lot of people was like, yo, Trappsoe, he was heartbroken. It's just like, y'all, how would y'all know that I'm heartbroken? You know what I mean? Like, nobody knew what I was going on, and I don't want to spoil the magic for nobody. I'm not going to tell y'all who trapped soul was about or who I'm not going I don't even want to ruin it for people so like think whatever you think

But like you know I definitely wasn't heartbroken, you know It's just like as humans we have we have our days you know we go we go through specific things one day we might be feeling this way You know and like when I'm feeling the third way I wrote about it, you know? I'm feeling happy and I'm feeling good like I'm about to make it And like all my ex is going to be calling my I made I made this song sorry not sorry you know what I'm saying It was different emotions, you know, that I was feeling. So for people to be like, you know, yeah, break its heart so we can get a new album. It's terrible, man. Bro, I just, you know, it's not my job, you know, like, y'all need therapy or so.

Yeah. For real, like, you know, I mean, even my solace, the album that I just released, was the first time since trap, so where I was like, you know, fuck it. I'm going to be super vulnerable, you know, and talk about, like, some of my hard time. and what I'm going through, so people can just relate to it because I know that sometimes people need to hear other people talk about their feelings

so they can feel comfortable to talk about theirs or, you know, like they need something that's going to help them heal. And it healed me, shit. Like, I was listening to, you know, my last album, Solis on the treadmill a lot. But I still think it's fucked up that, like, you know, people would just,

you know, I think they do that to ride wave too. They're like, yo, make sad music again. It's just like, he ain't on that. Like, he don't want to do sad music. They kind of do it to all of y'all. They kind of went y'all sad. Yeah, but, like, that's like, you got, you got some other issues. You got to work out.

That's so many other songs I have music that you can listen to. That's, like, for me personally, like, I'm not listening to no sad music to help me get through my sadness. Yeah. That's just me personally. Like, I'm not, that's not, like, I think I was listening to Latin music the entire time when I was heartbroken, I was listening to nothing but Latin music. Because I didn't understand none of the lyrics. and I was like, it sound like music and they're happy to them.

It's not been sad fucking. Yeah. It feels good, though. That's about tragic shit. Yeah, exactly. I was like, yo, I'm, this is what I'm rocking with, you know what I mean? Just because, like, I don't want to hear nothing

that's going to put me deeper in that, you know? Like, yeah, like, I don't know. So, yeah, I hate that. I really do. But at this point, it don't matter to me no more. They can say whatever they want. Make this type of music, make that type of music. I'm going to make whatever the fuck I feel like making, you know?

Mm-hmm. So you're one of the only artists that dropped a double album in, like, this era. Oh, for real? Yeah. What do you mean this era? Like, I believe the last time a double album was Biggie and Tupac. No, no, no. Drake drops a Scorpion.

Oh. That's a double album. God damn it. My bad. Yeah. All right. My bad. Yeah, yeah.

You don't, you know, I recognize the dropping a double album. I would say that this might be, I mean, no, I got to say that bro's album was a, a true double album too, though. Okay. Because he did like the arm, mostly like R&B feels and shit in the rap on the other. Right, yeah.

Okay. Up to me. Go ahead. Let me make my question make more sense. Us knowing that you being a writer, like we only get paid for like eight to ten songs. When you do that double album, that double album is basically,

that second album is basically a giveaway. Obviously, you knew that. Yeah. Shut out. Shut out my manager, man. Oh, you found out later. talking a lot about this. But, like, I don't be doing it for that reason, man.

Okay. I think what I was going through with Solis and shit was so sad that I was like, bro, I just want to have fun. I ain't trying to think about all the other shit. And the main reason I did, I decided to make it a double album. Solace was supposed to be its own thing. And then the Vices was like, you know, when I dropped whatever she wants or whatever and they came out and it was going crazy, I was like, whatever she wants.

Yeah. Oh, damn it, man. You fucked a lot of niggas' life for. That record, that record, every time a person gets into an argument with their girl, their girl pays whatever scene. It's called to you, man. Go ahead. I get it.

I get it. I'm a bad job. But now, so when I had that song, it was going crazy, I had my last album, which is called, it was the Bryce and Till album was a self-titled. Self-type. And I was like, it was like mostly like a bunch of arms. beat shit and I was like yo I was sitting on the four minute I was like yo let's do it let's do like an album that feels like this that's cater to the women that's

fun just fun vibe you know I mean and you know that was like nah we should just you know we should just put it as a bonus on this album and you know I was a little upset about that because I was like I guess we can do that you know so we ended up putting it as a bonus on the album and you know it just sucks because it's like it's the most popular it's the most stream song on that album and like, you know, even, I feel like even Quincy Jones will listen to the album and be like, nah, this ain't the best

song on the album, you know what I mean? This is la-di-da-di-da, whatever she wants, whatever the fuck I'm talking about. You know what I mean? But there's other songs like prize on there or like just, I won't even get into it, but that's songs where I'm really singing. I'm putting a lot of harmonies in Charlie Heat really doing this thing. And like, they all got overshadowed and overlooked

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Bombing, bombing with Eric Andre. So you think you are like a victim of your own success? Because now I'm going to give you an example, right? Yeah. And I know you went through this. So I'm going to just say it. When I did, what, what, what? Then I came out with, oh, no, right after that.

it was the same exact thing and they compared it to that. Don't was so huge that they kept comparing you know what I'm saying? Like, all right, that's not don't but it's good.

Do you feel like you're a victim of your own success like that or no? Because everywhere they're always going to compare to your last hit. They always compare it to your last hit. Yeah, that's what I mean.

That's what I'm trying to say. Well, fortunately for me, don't wasn't my last hit. That's it. No, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, like, yeah, I've heard people say make another don't. But, like, I've always been the type of artist that, like, I'm not trying to make the same song.

Yeah, yeah, you should know. And there's people out there that will argue, like, all his music sound the same. He's just making the same song over and over and over. Talking about you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've heard that before. But, like, it's obviously not valid because of songs that literally don't sound like each other at all. You know what I mean?

But, no, like, I don't like trying to make the same. Like, even me as an artist, oh, no, I'm sorry, as a fan listening to artists, I'm not like, yo, I need Frank Ocean to make another channel orange. I need him makes, I need Jay-Z to make another, you know what I mean? Like, for what? Dead price. You already made it. You know what I mean? Like, he already made it for me to listen to.

So, like, why do I need him to go make another one of those? But a lot of these fans nowadays, they just, they really, and shit, people might see this and be like, nah, he don't know what he's talking about. We need, you need to go back and make it again. like it's like not but that's not how it works you know like you know so for me um I don't really pay too much attention when people say that I just keep making shit and you know I'm I'm so glad I'm thank God that I'm blessed and I've been able to just continue to take care of my family and yeah and uh make money in the music industry um doing whatever the fuck that I really want to do you know what I'm saying but um I listen to him every here's when I when I do my fans a side

You know, those people that really rock with Trapsol, every anniversary. So, like, when it's a five-year anniversary or a 10-year anniversary, for the five-year anniversary, I dropped the album called Anniversary, Paying Homish to Trapsol, which is my first album. Like, I didn't call it Trapsol, too, because I'm just like, that's just suicide. Right, right, right. I'm like, but I'm going to compare it. Yeah, you know what I'm like, but I was like, but they're compared anyway, but, like,

this is what that is. You're paying homage to yourself, like in the cell. Paying homage to it. So I did that. And then on the 10 years, I dropped solace. So I was like, yo, I'm paying homage and I'm going back and tapping into that bag. You know, even getting the old beats that I was listening to back then. Oh, that's dope.

But even still, it don't matter. Like, they're still going to be like, nah, still not the same. You know what I mean? But, you know, it's like when you hear people make new Christmas music, you know what I'm saying? Like somebody might make a new original Christmas song and they ain't going to hit as hard as the Frank Sinatra and all that, you know, all them Christmas songs. Then you make a Christmas album? I did. but I'm not a shame

I'm just making a fucking shit I'm not right now I'm making a point that like you know it ain't nostalgia people are really driven by nostalgia and they think like now but they'll complain now and then five 10 years later look back

oh man that was great that's a classic that's why you can't listen to it in the now. Nope at all you just got to keep moving forward and don't even listen to none of that I just right now I'm in the space ever since 2020, you know, I recently posted something like, yo, it's a common misconception that Bryson Till it don't drop enough. And I hate hearing that shit. He don't drop enough. But, like, I've been dropping ever since 2020. I haven't stopped. It's the algorithm. It's the

social media. It's all that. It's the brutal industry that's keeping me suppressed and keeping me, you know, smothered to where it's like nobody would ever know that I'm releasing. You know what I mean? In 2020, I dropped my anniversary album, 2021. I dropped, I think, the deluxe. And then I went into the Christmas album. And then I dropped the 10-year anniversary of my first mixtape ever, Killer Instinct 2. And then I dropped BTA, the album, which I was working on nine-stop, putting out singles when I could. And then I came out with Slum Tiller.

The mixtape series was whatever she wants was featured on. That's three. Both. I think three of them. And then I came out with a double album this year. And, like, I'm working on the next shit. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, I can't peace.

I got to. I'm saying all that to say, like, you know, it's just people like, oh, here on dropping up. It's just like, nah, you just, you know, you can't see it, you can't hear it, and that's cool, you know? Here's the million-dollar question for me. This is my favorite question in Drinkchamps history. Independent or major?

I never experienced what it was like to be independent, so I couldn't really tell you. I'm trying to learn a little bit more Not I'm trying to learn I'm trying to learn a little bit more What it means to be independent As somebody I was going to reach out to Don't do

Don't do it, not that I want to be Not that I want to be independent But more so just because I just want to understand What it means to be independent I would imagine in the R&B field It would be a lot more difficult I would say right now as an artist It feels like that the labels are just a bank

You know, like Because they were just, what? A bank. Yeah, I mean, that's, yeah. One main percent. One main percent. That, you're correct? Because it's not like they're taking a song and they're making it massive.

Being independent is wrong. But listen, you can't say it. Right now it's different than back then, man. We got, we got, we got, we got, what's my man name, NBA, young boy, and that's it. He independent? Now, he took birth. No, what do you mean? Tech-9?

He's been killing it forever. Independent. I forgot. I forgot. All right, but we got one. No, man. There's a lot. There's a lot more.

All right. Who else is killing Independent? Come on. La Russell. Russell. All shit. All right.

You're making points. Right. Today you win. You're right. The Russ. Isn't Russell? No, L. Russell and Russ.

Oh. Christian artist? No, bro. Who's Ler Russell then? From the Bay Area. Oh, my bad. Okay, okay, okay. My bad.

I thought it was L.A. Russell, but. Yeah. Maybe it is Ler Russell. Yeah, I heard. Yeah. You talk. But you ain't fucking went independent.

I mean, I, I don't know. Who you signed? I'm signed the RCA. Okay. I've been signing a good. He liked that major money. He said that shit.

Nah, I mean, he's the RCA, God damn. I'm signed RCA. I mean, I don't know if that's good or bad, but like, you know, shout out to them. As long as that money coming and saw that. Yeah, as long as you're successful

and flourishing. That's all that matter, that's all that. Yeah. You don't want to be all independent. You don't. Don't listen. Don't listen to this guy, man.

You like the Waldorf? It's not filled for everybody, but it is. Do not go back to the sherritons. It's not good. Let's see. And he's speaking from the era in the 90s when the labels were flushed with money and they were just showering these artists with money.

So he's talking from a different era, man. Stay major, man. That sounds fun. My nigga shop and you stay a major. You can. No, hold on. Let me cheers with you guys. What is that?

Mama Juana. What? Exactly. It's rum-based. It's a Dominican drink. Okay. Cheers. Who wooed over there?

All Dominicans. All the Dominicans, when they find out that he drink in my marijuana. I thought it was Mr. Lee. You open it, let's talk about the game for a second. Let's do it. Uh, you've been, is that it? It's it. Holy moly guacamole.

Brutal industry. Okay. So you're selling a console. I'm not selling a console, but like this is a handheld, um, yeah, what console is a handheld piece? It's a, it's called an tech. I got like six of them, but it's like different, um. And your phone is a Macintosh? What's fucking is a Macintosh?

You really want us on Steve Jaws? No, but this is, uh, this is brutal industry. It's like, it's, like I said, it's a handheld PC so I can, like, extract files and shit but you know um i basically just download every friday we get a new build it comes out and um yeah i download my game on here i test it out we play it we see where it goes and you know what is like a downloadable app game or is it uh it's a real game that comes out on all platforms and uh so i have to buy that council to get that no no no it's going to be Xbox yeah Xbox oh any anywhere Nintendo switch how about my phone would i be able to download it

Yeah, I'm off of, wow. Phone two. Yeah, so I started working on this back in 2020. And, uh... But is that your console that you... No, no, no. This is just something like... This is, okay.

Yeah, it's just a... That shit looks ill, though. What the fucking... Yeah, I've never saw it. It's called Antek. It's like... It's like... I was going to give it to my daughter

because you got pink on it, but I just bought it to see how it runs my game or whatever, but it's a handheld PC essentially. It's just a PC, essentially, so... And what's the premise of the game? I heard he's... the CEOs. So he wants to be independent. It's about the music.

It's about the music industry. You know what I mean? Ain't you killing the CEOs or something? I can't say yet. You know, you got to. I heard. I got some insight. It's a very...

You're on here killing Leo Coles and McKellows. I'm not playing. It's just a game. It's a game. It's playing around. It's a very satirical game about the music industry. You know, I think a lot of time this industry is like

the shit that I go through is, it's last. laughable, you know. I'm just like, damn, like, I can't believe that is that way, you know. I've been somebody that's in the house, like I said, I'm a nerd. Like, I play video games. And I've seen this music industry shit make somebody send some goons after me. Like, yo, we got to get Bryce until it touched because of X, Y, Z.

We got to get him touched because he disrespected me, man, and he owed me or whatever. And that's just like, damn, bro. It's a brutal industry, man. And I think it's sad. It's really sad that, you know, artists. are going to have to go through this shit. You got to, your shit that you might not expect. Like I said, I stopped talking to everybody when my daughter was born just to see.

You know what I mean? I didn't know what was going to happen. Yeah, who's going to fuck on me? And then once I popped off, which I didn't know what was going to happen, all of a sudden, everybody started coming out to Woolworths, talking about, oh, I'm miss, oh, I'm that. And we're going to put death threats outside your house. Oh, him, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Oh, okay. Oh, like O-W-E. So, yeah, that is just, you know, and then dealing with egos in the music industry, dealing with the media, you know what I'm. I was like, damn, me? Nah, we just, we knew media, yeah. But, like, you know, there's some people out there that are like y'all that, they got malicious intent, and they're doing it because they know, you know, like I said,

there's going to be some clips from this shit that I'm probably going to hate to see, but I ain't even on social media right now. Like, I'm chilling. My bad, I'm going to turn this off. Social media was telling you chill out right now. But, not, like, you know, the industry is just, it's fucked up where artists have to go through, you know, just there's so many different things. that I just have made characters out of

and I love anime and there's a lot of anime influence in this game and yeah I just yeah I just want to give you a slight bit of advice

you're a legend debatable no let me finish you're a legend you're on your way to be in the icon and there's moments that I don't want you to miss

enjoy it this ride is cool yeah this ride is cool and and I feel like you're being careful so you're not like really in like you know what I'm saying you're looking at the ride

but you know that that ride is going to go up you're in great adventures right so you know that you're on a ride so you're being super careful and you're not I want you to enjoy this more you're a legend bro you're a legend these people came out here

look at all these people turn around. We do this for 10 years. Everyone would think, Rice, you're not asking. Listen. You're a legend. So I want, as, you know, you know,

you're our family. You're our family, whether you know it or not. You know what I'm saying? Like, coming through Rich, Rich is my family. So you're my family. I'm your family.

And I want you to enjoy this a little bit more. If I can give you a little bit of advice. Not on. Just a little bit of advice. Yeah. enjoy this ride. Because so many people ain't going to get this.

So many people, like I just ran a New York City marathon and I seen people fall in front of me. They fell, they came right to the fucking finish line and fell. And I couldn't pull them because they wasn't with me.

Yeah. But you're at the finish line and I'm going to tell you something, I want to pull you with me because you are a good dude and enjoy this motherfucking ride because this ride is beautiful. I'm sorry, I got, I got older, I got older,

that was old, that was old, but yeah, not for real, because I was just, you live in a beautiful life, man. I don't know if you heard my question, I'm just wondering, my bad. What's, um, what's, what's, what's a legend to you? To you? To me? Yeah. A legend is a person who stays outside, who doesn't listen to the critiques of these people for,

for both of our second album, and he comes back outside and impress me. reveres and keeps going, and I know that word might just sounded a little crazy, but it keeps going and does not let anybody crack them. And let me just tell you something. You have done that. You have done that already. Celebrate yourself. Pat yourself on the back. And just in case if you don't want to, I'll help you pat yourself on the back, bro. You are a fucking legend. Accept that shit, bro. Accept it. We accept it because that's the beautifulest thing. about this is I know that you're accepting

where you at. Yeah. But you're also like, man, fuck this. All right, which is cool. I've been there. But you have to look over that shit, bro. You already made it. You're already who it is. There's people who already look up to you.

Yeah. They're inspired by you. So you just got to accept that shit, bro. You're a fucking legend and accept it. I'm just, I'm just, is that cool? Is that cool? Yes. I just want you to know that.

I just want you to know that, like, for real, because I know it you humble. Yeah. And sometimes being humble is next to being, like, not accepting your credits. You know what I'm saying? And, nah, you got to accept your credits, bro. You got to look at the fucking, the end of the film. The end of the film, your name is there as fucking executive. You know what I mean?

Salute to you, brother. Thank you, bro. Salute to you. Appreciate it. And salute to your crew for holding them down. I salute to you being here, man, because this is beautiful, and I wanted to give you your flowers, brother.

And I thank you. But this is the last question. How many babies you think you made? Damn. Uh, yeah, yeah. Shit, who knows. You make love making music.

motherfucker you know people used to say that to me and I never understood because I was like man really I'm making love to this like that's crazy yeah motherfuckers fucking's your shit as well I don't know man I'm happy that I contributed you like three thousand

maybe 300,000 babies what you think? Who knows man I really just hope that I made a lot of men question they decisions you know what I'm saying or not even just said just people men their relationships that they might have broken, you know, more than babies, you know,

hopefully some babies came out of that, but like, you know, if you just meant it something, like, I just want to help people get through their, they mentally, reconcile their relationships or just really think about it, like, damn, you know what, maybe, maybe I did fuck up, you know, maybe I need to, like, maybe I need to revisit that and see it from a different perspective, so, yeah. So is there ever a record that you, you thought you went too personal on? Because I know you, personal question. uh shit um um i can't i can't recall right now especially not about your girl your exes yeah i can't i can't recall just leave you that alone like you never released music or an album and and kind of like social media

where you kind of like i kind of exposed too much there definitely my second album for sure i was like y'all i'm saying way too much right like you know what you could go back man i let me i want Like, the album cover itself was inspired by, like, that MTV show is called True Life or something shit. Exposing, like, what people were, like, really going through. I was like, this is all I know to know. I'm just telling me what I'm going through. So, but it was too much, you know, so. Listen, man, one day me and you're going to hang on and just dis each other about our second album.

Because you ain't letting it go. And guess what I didn't let it go. And his second album is a classic, in my opinion. Yes. So, um, I relate to you so much because I know exactly how. you feel because it's exactly how I feel but thank you man for being here man I appreciate that man appreciate your energy appreciate rich appreciate all this shit man like um you're a legend man i want to give you your flowers man let's do it drink champs is a drink champs LLC production

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You're going to push that line for the cause? Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry's killed, Gabe must untangle the dangerous past, one that could destroy everything he thought he knew. Listen to the brothers Ortiz and the... the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers?

Who catfishes a city? Is it even safe to snort human remains? Is that the plot of footloos? I'm comedian Rory Scoville, and I'm here to tell you, Josh Dean and I have a new podcast that celebrates the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals. It's called Crimeless, a true crime comedy podcast. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. What up, y'all? It's your boy, Kevin on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who have had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak?

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You won't believe what happened on the latest episode of bombing with Eric Andre. First time I tried to land 900, I fell forward, broke my rib, and I was late to pick up my son at preschool. Wow. Our latest episode features Tony Hawk, RICO Nasty, Yamanika Saunders, and Derek Beckles. Listen to bombing with Eric Andre on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Bombing, bombing with Eric Andre.

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