Drink Champs - Episode 483 w/ Erick Sermon

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode we chop it up with the legends, Erick Sermon! Straight from Art Basel, The Green-Eyed Bandit himself, Erick Sermon, pulls up to the table for a classic, unfiltered conversation that bridges eras of hip hop. From his legendary run with EPMD to shaping the sound of the ’90s and beyond, Sermon dives deep into the stories, the studios, the successes, and the struggles that molded his iconic career. N.O.R.E. and DJ EFN pour up heavy while Erick breaks down the early Def Jam days, his chemistry with Parrish Smith, and the creative zone that birthed timeless records.  Sermon also opens up about producing for heavyweights like Redman, Method Man, LL Cool J, and Jay-Z, sharing behind-the-scenes gems only a true architect of the culture could drop. He speaks candidly about navigating the music business, overcoming personal battles, and staying relevant in an ever-changing industry. The episode is packed with laughter, raw truth, and that signature Drink Champs energy—stories that get funnier as the drinks get stronger.  Whether you’re a lifelong E-Double fan or discovering the depth of his legacy for the first time, this episode is a masterclass in hip hop history straight from one of its most influential creators. A must-watch for every real head. Make some noise for Erick Sermon!💐💐💐🏆🏆🏆 Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com   Follow: Drink Champs https://www.drinkchamps.com https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps   DJ EFN  https://www.crazyhood.com https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy https://www.twitter.com/djefn https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions   N.O.R.E.  https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga https://www.twitter.com/noreagaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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in your number one source for drunk facts. It's drink champs, motherfucker. Every day it's New Year's Eve. It's time for drink champs. Drink up, motherfucker. Eric Sherman, you said that. No, bro, come on.

Start the fucking intro. No. You can do it. Yo, check this out, y'all. We're at the Museum of Graffiti, the art of hip-hop. Yes. Art Basil 2025. Yes.

And this is motherfucking drink champs in the building. Yes. Make some noise. And today, we have a very, very special guest. A legend. The icon. An icon. The motherfucking tycoon.

Make some noise for Eric Sherman. I'm going to be honest with you. Don't lie. I watched the documentary this morning. What documentary are you speaking of? Some people might not know. What is it called? It isn't right where he goes right into this.

No, I mean, be honest, I've literally watched it 20 minutes ago. Yeah, that's why he was late. Yeah, I had to do research. But I couldn't believe because I know you. Right. You got green eyes, but you're a tough motherfucker. You're a tough dude. You are not, no sucker.

A lot of people don't know that. And for you to say that, Puff Daddy punched you in the face and y'all walked around the... No, he swung on me. He swung on you. He didn't land. He didn't connect.

No, no, no. All right, let's make that clear then. It says clear. All right, so what... I thought I was clear. Oh, no, no, no. Okay. It sounds like...

Oh, no, no, no, no. Okay. So, he didn't punch you. No. All right, so let's break that down because this is the hottest thing on the market. Everyone is watching it.

Right. It's number one on Netflix. So what happened? Now, Pup is actually my friend. So he was my friend. It didn't look like that in a documentary. I'm just... Yeah, but I didn't say nothing bad.

All that's talked about was a story that... You spoke your truth. That that happened. It wasn't that I was bashing them. There's the fact that it happened because of the situation. Okay. Just saying what was told already by Gene, it was out... Gene Deal.

Right. He already put that out a couple of years ago. Yeah. So when they asked me the question, I just confirmed it by saying what happened that day. So Gene already said this story? Yeah, he said that, you know, Two years ago that, you know, a homie got mad when he found out that I was talking to home,

talking to her. Visa. Right. And then, you know, something went on. But again, that, what happened with me and him was just a person who was mad. He was my friend. He was mad.

That's why I said, get in the car, and let's go around the corner. Because I knew that in front of somebody, you probably would act a certain way. So around the corner, things changed. And I want to, I want to make clear, too, about the Biggie Smalls tape. Of course, Biggie wasn't out yet.

So it was new. So the ignorant people who're saying it don't add up. Of course, it adds up if it's brand new. It was played to me in the beginning by him before we heard the album come out. It was ready to die that he showed you, like before it came out. Do you remember what songs? Nah, give me the loop. I think machine gun funk.

Machine gun funk, baby. I die for the funk. I live for the funk. I live for the funk. I live for the funk. You know, Eric Sherman, you have the best stories in the fucking hip-hop, man. Can I just give you that? I don't have this story.

My shit is all truthful. I try to make as much truth as possible. Again, you see when I did the last drink champ. I was about to bring it up. I was waiting for somebody to say, yo, he capped on that. There's no need for me to cap. And plus, nobody's going to say shit to my face. You got people that talk behind the computer and creep.

You got green eyes. No one beats with people who are green eyes. But why did they say you cap? Because of the stuff talking about the publishing? Just everything. Everything? Everybody lies. So I wait for that to happen for me.

But them to come back and say, yo, oh, no, what he said was not that. You know what I'm saying? But it's just truthful with me. No, but I'm going to be honest with you. As a producer. Right. Are you done with the other shit? Yeah, I was playing around.

I just wanted to get that out. Okay, great. Because, of course, you're the hottest nigga right now. Don't say I'm in two episodes for two minutes. He said you got a reoccurring role in that shit. Oh, you look like you were in the whole documentary. Yeah, but I'm not, though. I'm not in three or four.

I know. That's why I got a player. I got you. But when you did that episode, I have never got to. so much love from producers. Right. Producers would hit me and be like, yo, what is Eric Sherman talking about? Like, why did Eric Sherman say that?

And the thing about it is, a lot of people didn't understand or they didn't relate what you were saying. So I would like- On what part? On the part that you saying, like, yo, I produced for- I think, yeah, it was the publishing the residuals, like that whole thing. Yeah, the publishing residuals. Oh, okay. Like, so I got-

Oh, you're going back to the first one. Yes. Okay, go ahead. I got a rhyme right now where I say- I say I say I say I say still I get residuals

off catalog Right And then I say Open back skeleton Still getting money off my catalog And people don't understand what I'm saying Right You know how fast a million dollars goes

Especially today's economy it goes quick I used to do that I used to have four credit cards this is not the flex I used to have four credit cards

and all four credit cards with $30,000 a piece so I used to just do that just on a regular basis for like four or five years straight you know what I'm saying like not I didn't say one I said four credit cards

of just swiping I swipe my Lexus Coups on the credit card too short was with me one day when I swiped the whole studio on the credit card And he tells the story you ask him He said, I watch Eric swipe a whole studio

The board, the speakers, the fucking amps The fucking outboard gear The whole night, I just swipe it on cards It's how it was It's easy to see $250,000 go Really in about a month But either 40 days you can do it with no problem Right

So let me ask you Because you You gave the secret to producers Right You gave the secret. You was like, yo, all you got to do is, like, produce for the right people and the right residuals will come, right? Well, the right people can be, of course, the big stars. But it's also for you to own your publishing, so just in case Norrie wants to sample it.

You heard what you just said? Own your motherfucking publisher. Because at the end of the day, for those who didn't watch the first drink champs, it kind of fucked me up too, when I said it because my phone started ringing. Yeah, your phone was ringing. So because I was just trying to tell people

if you own your own publishing, here's something that can happen later on in life forever. You get paid forever, you know, when you own when you have publishing. No matter what if you might get, you know, a check for $20 or a check for $200,000 or say if a series takes your record

and then license it, you know, you can make all types of money. Right. I just happened to be sampled by the weekend, which is the most, you know, sampled artists in the world. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I was able to get that bulk of money

because he was streaming $1.9 billion streams. So along with that came that type of money, but only your publishing, though. So you would recommend not to do publishing deals then, or would you? Yeah, that's a great question. Back then we did publishing deals, FFN, because the money wasn't coming so once your career starts drying up

and stuff ain't moving the same you have your real estate which is publishing that's your real estate right so it's worth so much money as you can see right now the masters listen man the owner of Spotify right I don't know who that is but I know the president of Spotify

in 2024 he made $300 million dollars. He don't own it. He don't own it. He's just a worker. He made $300 million. So imagine what everybody the owner's making or everybody else

is making. And then the artist is not making nowhere near that. The labels are making these deals and everybody else is eating but us. You know, but I'm just giving you the president made $300 million in 2024. That's the streetman math.

though, not on the publishing side. I'm just saying what Spotify do on the stream in the far as how what happens with you having the master too, if you can own the master too along with the publishing what you really can be making

because look what they're making. Artists has been taking advantage of. Forever. Forever, right? When I look at a young brother Like, like, I admire, this is going to sound crazy. But I admire NBA young boy.

Right. Young, what's his name? NBA Young boy. I admire him because I felt like he brought labels to him, right? Uh-huh. Byteversa. Like, when we was trying to get signed, we went to the label. Of course.

I feel like NBA young boy, I praise him. Right. I admire him. And I actually honored this guy. Because I feel like he was the first one that made the labels come to us. Right, right. Do you think our young brothers should continue that, that, that, that, that success? Everybody that's listening right now.

Yeah, everybody listens. Hey, hold up, man. Man, that's a lot of fuck. The people that's talking in the back, get the fuck out. Jesus, man, come on. They get the fuck out of the building because they, they know, I'm Cuban. But for those that want to listen, they want to learn something real quick, back then when me and Norrie came out, the record.

labels is all we had because they was the bank to be able to promote and push the record we needed them right? Yep. Yep. We don't need them anymore. We just know that at the end of the day, if Spotify is only paying us

0.004 less than 1 cent. And they just passed the fucking, they passed some type of law just now that gave us a penny, right? Right. So at a penny if we sell, if we stream 100,000, thousand pieces, right, it's $14,000, right?

No, no, a million is $14,000. A million is $14,000. Right. If you stream 200,000 streams, right? Uh-huh. You get $200, right? Okay, now listen what I'm saying, y'all again. If you stream a million, you get $14,000 if it's a penny.

If you stream $200,000, you get paid $200,000. right so what would you rather do so if i ask you for one dollar to buy my record and eight thousand people buy give me one dollar is eight grand so what would you rather do because because you only making two hundred dollars but you got a stream a hundred yeah that doesn't matter right and to get a million streams, you get $14,000. So if I go direct to consumer and tell them to pay me $5, five times four is $20, right? So now I'm making $20,000, right, going by myself.

I'm nowhere near that when I'm streaming. I'm streaming for what, to get what? Right. So I'm just saying for me, if it was me, I would do this. I would go direct to consumer and whatever fans you have on your social media, fuck with them. So. Because they would pay you. Because listen, Norie, numbers don't lie.

Yes. If I get, if I only got 8,000 fans, fuck 500,000, 200,000, 100,000 fans. If I got 8,000 people paying me $100,000. is $800,000. Are y'all understanding where I'm coming from? Absolutely, yeah. If I got $8,000. All I need is $8,000 people

to give me $200. It's $1.6 million. I don't understand how you not trying to do this. And you're trying to get popular. Fuck popular. Fuck trying to like, I want the world to hit my music. Fuck all that.

You're not here making music for fun. You're here trying to eat. So let me ask you. But hold up, but really quick. It seems like there's an information war that's convincing artists to do otherwise. Like, this is the way to go. You've got to go with these platforms.

The same way that we all bought into social media. Each person is a product, and we're all being juiced by these social media corporations and not to our benefit at the end of the day. It's what Norway said earlier. I can give you the advance, but the advance only comes one time. That's my problem.

Once you're done with that advance money, it's over. They own your likeness. You can't make a t-shirt. You can't do shit. All of it belongs to them. I mean, I've been telling him Indy versus Major all day long. Oh, no, before it, before it probably would have been 50-50. Now it's only the way that you should go,

especially the ones who have a name. If you have a name, there just be no question that they should be coming to you buying your merch and buying whatever you're selling them then people will take care of you. Me and EFN I'm talking about you like you're not here.

Sorry. Okay. But me and EFN we offer people deals right now. Right. For Dreamtamps Network. We don't want one, not one artist,

to sign to us and to have a complaint. Right. Me and him both came together and we was like, We're going to give every artist their own platform. Okay. And we're going to make sure every artist owns their shit.

So if you don't want to do that, that's okay. It's okay. It's okay. You're not for us. And with term limits, term limits. We want to be the catalyst for you to decide. And we're giving people one-year deals. And we're saying to you, so when that deal is up, you can say, I don't want to be here no more,

or I want to be here. right and then we can continue to make you we is the first podcast platform that is going to be the biggest podcast platform because we're making everybody bosses right is that cool that's very cool all right so even bleak from bleak we got bleak angela simmons i got the homie right there I don't I don't know if he motherfucking got his own thing going but up D1 like yeah yeah yeah I'm like you come fuck with us yes yes and I want to show every we want to show everybody right how to be a boss right like and I don't think hip hop has ever had that no no not not people who try to let everybody else eat yeah well it's always one listen man we

We want to be the boss and we want to be the only one. strictly business. We want to be the only ones. Right. I can't have you, I forgot the 48 laws of power. Yeah, I don't like that. I must not feed them because I must have them always looking for me to get money from or always have to depend on me. That's the way the shit works and people, they think like that.

Not knowing that, listen, man, when EPMD came out, right? Mm-hmm. Everybody that came after us was sold more records than me. See, I ain't look at it like that. But it made me, it was longevity, and it turned out to be something great because that just made me a more profitable person when I got all these groups. I don't get fucking selling more records than me. They earned to me.

Who we talking about? Dotsafx, Redman. Redman. They was all, and then Keith Murray came. They all sold more records than me. as far as when they came out of soloist, as far as for EPMD, but it made EPMD bigger

because then when Crossover came out, it was our biggest record because DOSFX was platinum. So they had another whole audience, but I don't get mad. I'm bringing niggas in because you can't keep showing up to the party by yourself.

And I'm assuming they had better deals than the deal you originally got. I got some for $1,500. Right. I got $5,000. No. You made me feel good. $750, nigger.

$750. A piece. Wait, so y'all split the $1,500? $1,500. Yes, I went to the grocery store. Yes, what I did. I went to the, I went to got some grocery. Hipops come a long way.

I want to got some groceries for my moms, and I went to Marshalls and got me an outfit. And the legend was born. I got the Avericks. That's $5,000, though. I thought I was, you had five grand. Don't forget, you're coming in, you coming in late, 98, 97, 97, 96. And $5,000 is disrespectful. in 90s, 96.

That's disrespectful. But 1,500 was, no, 750. No, but Norrie came in indie. You came in super indie. 1,500 is 1988, nigga. 1980. So, 95, 5,000 is disrespectful. God damn it.

He's right. Well, you guys kind of came in indie, too, because what was it, payday? No, Seamback records, fresh records. Okay, fresh. Don't because we had the three, the three worst contracts was EPMD, Bismarkey, and Kane.

I did not, never hear that. Yeah, but we had the three lowest. So I have to ask What was Kane and Bismarck I don't know I think it was around that same place $1,500? I think so Cane got signed for $1,500?

Listen, nigger, we wanted to be on the radio It don't matter how much money we was getting We want to be famous I did too Same shit, we don't matter about that And how old were y'all? I did, too. 15 you said?

18 18, 18. Yeah, y'all was kids, man. I was 17, perhaps was 18. So that's why I was able to get out of that deal when Russell came and brought us for $1.6 million because I was underage when I signed. Throw that out there, 1.6.

Yeah, yeah. Did you y'all not hear that? That 1.6? Yeah, yeah, yeah, throw that out there. They ain't come in, I mean, I ain't get all of it, but that's something. Right, right. But you got to see Def Jam. Yes.

Transition, right? Before Def Jam. Huh? It was before Def Jam. Like from the management, Rush was before the actual league. Well, we was all signed to Rush. Right. Rushman.

Every major artist. Rush management, though, rush management. Yeah, everybody. That was before the label, right? Yeah. Well, well, DevShan was there because Russell had DevSham. Okay.

So the BC Boys was on, and LL was on there already. But they had Rush Management too. Okay. It's where they signed everybody that was out. So they had LL and they had the Beastie Boys. Yes. That's it. That's it.

And then... Oh, and Orange Jones. Who? No, no. Armistee Jones? Profile records, yeah. Yeah. Wait, did you say Orange Juice Jones?

Yes. I thought Orange Jones was on Tommy Boy I saw you Walking the Rain, too I think it was on, I know it was on DevCham Oh, it was on DevCham? Yes, we don't have to Google that It was Russell's boy I might be born, but I was Russell's best friend

Okay, maybe I'm not quite sure You might be right, you might be right Okay, I thought he was on Tommy Boy No, yeah, I didn't think he was on Devcham I don't know You've been getting a lot of money for a long time You might be right I might be right, I know, yeah, yes

I know the Beastie Boys and L.O.K.J. started Def Jam. Those were the first two acts on death jam. And how did it feel like the Rush artist versus the Def Jam artist? Was there any weird? No, Rush is just management. No, I know, but did it feel any, was there any awkwardness in that? Nah, no, not.

The same people that are doing the management now got this record label? No, they had Death Jam first. Right. I'm saying, was there anything, any rivalry with any other artists? No, everybody was, again, they was the biggest, they was the hottest out. So, again, everybody, I remember there's a picture out with all of us on Elizabeth. Street in Manhattan. Now where the first office was.

So, Raqam was out there. We was out there, too, under Rush Management. I mean, every act that was somebody was signed to Rush, except K.R.1. So let's get into this legendary, Long Island Beef. Legendary. You guys.

Let's comment down with the conversation back there. Yeah, yeah, we're used to this. Yeah, we're used to chaos at drink jams. But I'm not used to it. Yeah, it's okay. It's okay. This is hip hop. Yeah, but they got to shut up and get the fuck out.

All right, everybody, everybody pay attention, please. But you guys got into beef with the legendary rock Kim. How the fuck does this happen? It's just the neighborhoods. Long Island. Wine dance? He's from Wine dance. Well, Long Island, again, you know, is a bunch of rappers.

You know? Right. Well, coming through was the beginning was Rock Him in the beginning. So he's the reason why I really kept rapping because he rhymed slow. So I had a list, so I had to rhyme slow anyway. But he was rhyming slow, you know, because that's how his style was. But Rockham made this song called I Ain't No Joke. And I always wanted to ask you this.

Right. Do not think he dissed y'all on that. Yeah, but he didn't diss us on that. Okay. It's the fact that when he said, you can get a smack for this, I ain't no joke. It just happened that you a customer came out afterwards. It's like a dig'em smack. You smack me and I'll smack you back.

He thought you guys were talking about him? Right. Right. Because you can get a smack for this. I ain't no joke. It's like a digum smack, you smack me, and I smack you back. So the neighborhoods took it. Like, oh shit, right.

Reckham, EPM Diss you. But to be clear, you weren't. No. And what neighborhood are y'all from? Brentwood. Brentwood. That's right next to Wanderh? Two towns over.

Two towns over. Continue. So then Raqim came back with a brother said, dig him, I never dug him. He couldn't have followed him long enough. So I drug him. In the Danes zone, you could have ran. He just kept going.

You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, I told Pee, yo, we can't, we can't beat him. You know, we can't, we can't beat him. So, so. So eventually the beef got squashed, but it started from the neighborhood started the beef. But we was never trying to go out of him. It just happened that Paris rhyme had that in it. And they took it.

How serious did that? Did it get serious or not really? Yeah, it got serious. It was bad, you know, but again, it got squash eventually, you know. Do you realize Eric Sherman is top five, one of the best producers in his? pop ever? I don't know. I mean, hey, man. There you go. Make some noise for Eric's sermon.

Now, because I know you, you're my friend. Like, so this is, it's weird because I always want you to know that. Yeah, I mean, listen, there's a guy named Larry Smith that came before me, right? Larry Smith did suck emcees,

DaVinches of Slick Rick, which is a children's story. He did Houdini. So again, then you got Mali Maul who, if he didn't sample, we wouldn't be here. So I automatically have to look at those two before I even look at down the line on where we all, all of us come afterwards. I can tell you this. I don't think I don't think niggas did as much work as I did, you know, as far as producing, as far as groups, rap and R&B music.

That I know that nobody does as much work as I did. Now, being a producer, I'm not, I never claim the best be the best beat maker. I'm a record producer. That means I tell you that that beat is dope, but that beat ain't for you. That verse is dope, but that verse don't belong here. That verse is dope, but it should go third and that should go second. That chorus don't match. That means that a producer, I'm making the, I'm making the best record possible for the artists.

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supplements. It's about energy, confidence, and connection. We don't just want you to live longer. We want you to live better. So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows. What up, y'all? It's your boy, Kevin on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from him? I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash.

I don't know how you got on the show. Boo, somebody had tomatoes. I'm kidding. But if they had tomatoes, they would have thrown the tomatoes. Let's be honest. We've all had those moments we'd rather forget. We bumped our head. We made a mistake.

The deal fell through. We're embarrassed. We failed. But this podcast is about that and how we made it through. So when they sat me down, they were kind of like, we got into the small talk. And they were just like, so what do you got? What ideas? And I was like, oh, no.

What? Check out Not My Best Moment with me, Kevin on stage on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. But you do make beats. I'm not letting you get away with that. I'm not a beat.

Never? Listen, no, I'm not letting you get away with that. I am a producer, but you got to say the two things. Right. You want the distinction to be there. A beat maker just makes beats. Right. I'm not that.

I make a producer is everything. Everything. Okay. And you don't look at yourself of as a producer? As a producer, yes. Okay. I'm going to be honest with you.

You gave me a record one time. And Red Man used this shit. And this is the biggest, this is probably one of the biggest mistakes of my career. What record is this? What is it? The A-Rab? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I did.

Yep, I did. You send me that record, bro. That shit was, I don't know if you made it for me. No, no, I didn't make the beat It's just Blaze I just wanted you to be on the record And I thought it was dope for you I didn't know that

I thought it was dope for you And I I was on tour or something I was just like just busy And when I looked And then Red Man used this shit I was so mad I'm not, listen

I'm not mad because When I was doing 50th cent And I did a heat wave I was happy you got on the record Because the course because the chorus needed that. What, what? We don't throw the niggas out like we.

I need that to happen. We can't keep on. Get, keep on. I was the first person on 50 cents project. When everybody did not believe in 50 cents. Right. I was the first. Hoide, Logo deyme, man.

I was the first person. 50 cents first feature. The Rob. And guess what? Two of them. I did two of them. So thank you for knowing. He said that here on Drink, Champs, too.

Yeah, because once Hota Rob came, he got signed. So he, no one wanted to stand by the guy who made out of rock. So Heathway was the first single. Okay. Then he got shot. Oh, my bad. So that was. So hold up real quick, because actually we asked people on Twitter, on X and on Facebook for some questions for you.

And that was actually one of the questions that they said that you, do you feel like you passed on 50? What didn't work out? Like, why didn't you sign 50? Corey Rooney lived next door to me. That's what trapmaster's Corey Rooney. So Corey Rooney knocked on my- Cory Rooney and kind of like, you know, handed me 50.

So we did make records. Like I said four. A CD? No, him. He brought it personally to you. No, he came with him. Yes. Oh, my behalf.

I don't think a lot of people know this correlation. I didn't really know. I don't know this story. Came with him. So 50 would come over every day. we would make records the whole nine and I didn't know that I think we made like five records

that's what I said listen it was in my basement so of course you had to be on heatwave this is done on my house right you know what I'm saying so but at the end of the day he was already signed the trap masses and signed with Sony

so I didn't have an opportunity to get that my boy Bernard was managing him Bernard you know so that's what the connection came out from but I didn't have an opportunity to sign him so I didn't pass.

I just did the work as a producer, you know, when he came. But why didn't you step up and try to say, yo, let me. He's already signed. But after track masters, because there was that time frame before Eminem that you could have stepped up there. Oh, no, yeah, yeah.

But he was, again, he was recouping, doing things, you know, whatever. He was up up in the poker nose at the time, the whole nine. So he was getting his shit together to come out and destroy the world. You know what I'm saying? So I didn't have contact after that.

When somebody gets shot, they ain't fucking with nobody. Yeah, that changes things, sure. Well, I think, I mean, honestly, I just think that not many people have heard that connection of 50 and Eric Sermon. So it's- Well, you got to understand, though, too. This is another thing where people don't understand about me. I could have signed ludicrous. I could have signed Gain.

I could have signed Gain. Keep going. Calm down. Calm down. Wu-tang. Yeah. Let's break each of those down. Ludacris, tell me how you could have signed ludicrous.

I moved to Atlanta. Oh, yeah, you were the first artist from New York to be all up in Atlanta. I was the first. So. To Atlanta. Right. So my man, Greg.

You knew that was Black Hollywood in Atlanta? So Too Short came after you? Because I know Too Short ended up in-A-Kam after. Everybody came after when they saw me in the Source magazine and saw I was in Georgia. They all came after. Him, Scarface, the whole nine. And Tupak was at the rim. rim shop too so he was already kind of coming in and out you know what I'm saying so but but

Lula Chris would come to the crib and play his um was he Chris Lava Lava at the time right okay okay okay okay um so again I just thought it was more of a red man thing even though he was nice right but he had to fro he had the whole non this not that that this but he was nice and matter of fact When Ludacris got signed, he called my phone and said, Eric, should I sign with Sylvia Rome or sign with Def Sham? I said, sign with Def Sham. You know, no cap, go ahead and ask him. Wait, but when you say he's more of a Red Man thing, like you, like for Red Man to take him on as an artist? No, I already had somebody like that.

Oh, you like you already had a Ludacris. A light thing. Right. Jason type of artist. Right, right, got it. I would say I'm in the Redman. But he was nice as, I came in front of me. Nice as hell, but I just, you know, again, I'm just getting to Georgia.

I'm new, you know what I mean? But I, but I saw that. You have players club every night? You make it rain? No, I ain't ever going to strip or dime. But as far as, I saw that part of him, so that's why. But again, the respect level was there when he got signed to ask me like, yo, should I go here, go here?

Even though Sylvia Rohn was offering him a million dollars, and death chair and offered him $7. I just say go with Def Jam, it's a better look. With Def Jam. This is Russ, Leor, Julie Greenwald. It's a better look for him. He's the MC. And it was a great look.

It was a great look. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we got to talk about Wu Chang then. How does this? Wait, wait. Did you say Wu Chang? Yeah, he said Wu-Tang. You said, you had a chance of time Wu-Tang?

So Bernard Alexander, again, my best friend. Not out to Bernard, man. Bernard, father. He deserved the whole episode of Jing-Jang! Had a church in Staten Island. He had a church? Right, so he was the pastor. Bernard been going to church, his father had this church for 20 years.

I'll be drinking with Bernard. How are he out of the church? Right, so he's a son of a pastor. So he had a church. So Bernard took me to go see Ray Kwan. His name was Shalai in the, whatever. And Staten Island? Yes.

You went to Staten Island. Nobody went to Staten Island back in the-Ilan. I got. Nobody went to Staten Island back in the day. Yeah, but I did. I got Rob in Staten Island too. But, but... Don't tell me for a girl.

You're a for a girl. I watched your episode with Memphis Bleak. I did. I got a problem. It's always a girl. But I came back. Your green eyes, fuck you up with bitches. So listen, I want to hear the Wu-Tang story you don't.

Yeah, come on. Give us the Wu-Tang stuff. So I talked to Ray Kwan, and Ray Kwan tell the story. I was going to sign Ray Kwan by himself, right? No Wu-Tang. Right. But there's a picture on my I-Roc with all the Wu-Tang members, right? On the I rock, it's a dope picture.

I don't know where this pick at, but it was out at one time. But I was too young to know. You know what I'm saying? I'm because I'm brand new myself. This is 1989. Wait, this is 89 when you meet Rayquan? Right, 89. Wow, that's super early for all of Utex stuff.

89, yeah, 890. So I see Rayquon again. I go back to Staten Island. I see him walking. I stop them. I give him my number. Ray Kwan told me that he put the number in the dresser and didn't look at it for two weeks.

Wow. Because he didn't know if he wanted to call or not. So time go by. Next thing you know, I go to Jack the Rapper. I hear protect your neck. Out of here. You know what I'm saying? But again, you know, whatever.

But if I would have known what I knew, I would have had Wu-Tang Clan. Yes. Man, make some noise for that. Listen, Nora, real quick, I know he's a Dream Chance alumni. He's been, he's gotten his flowers, but still, we got to give him something. He can't leave empty-handed. Flowers.

Yo, we got something for you, Eric. Oh, another one. That's the new for Eric Sherman, please. No one's never had those flowers. Yeah, they have. Give it to you. Never had that case, though. Yeah, this is that.

That's the new. Okay. It's the rose. You know, where's the Rolex watch, nigga? Like, I'm like... I think a lot. I was looking at their watch. What watch is that?

It's the black rolling. That's the black Rolex? Yeah, yeah. This is a casual. Okay, yeah. This is fine. Right. It's fire.

Listen, we got a quick, quick time with slime. I got a couple of those. A quick quick time. And then he wants a designated drinker, which he already picks Sonny. Sonny, step up to the plate. Okay, wait, wait, wait. I ain't tell you about the other rapists.

No, no, yeah. But, Sonny, get ready. Get into position. Wu Tang. And then you said ludicrous, Wu Tang, and then who else? Then there's the game. The game. Game.

Right. You could have signed game before Dr. Drake? Yes. Give us the year. So it's more context of when you meet these people. Well, I meet game early too. Again, my boy D. Mack had game. And game met me at the Fox Hills Mall, right?

And I told him. Black Mall. Right. In California. The Blackmore, right. The Blackmore. And I told. him to spit 16 for me but he didn't know what I what I meant to spit 16 bars wait but

hold on hold up so you randomly meet in the mall just random no my boy broke him there oh brought him that to meet you okay I just told you my boy DMA brought him to the mall to meet me so James tells this story too and and one the magazine he says I was going to sign with Eric but he wasn't ready so I signed with 50 and that's crazy the triangle that you would and you agree with that story? You wasn't ready? Yeah, I told you. I didn't... No, yeah, I was doing me. You got to understand. I was really...

I mean, I had a lot of deals. A lot of shit going on. I was... It was outside. I was in these labels. Now, Tony Draper bought me Rick Ross, right? In the beginning. I remember when Tony was messing with Rick Ross. Yep. So now... Love House. Now, his name was Teflon, right? Yep.

Teflon. So Teflon was on my 1999 album. as Teflon, right? He was writing a lot for Trina and then back then, too. Right, so. Wait, so Rick Ross was on your 1999 album?

Right, as Teflon. As Teflon? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was active back then. Holy moly guacamole. And then he came to my crib and slept on my floor. Everybody comes to your crib for something.

Not on the floor, but he was in my basement. He tells the story. I was at Eric Sherman's house for a month making records. Right? So, again, I could have probably signed Ross, even though he was signed the Draper. I just didn't know how to make that move at the time.

And I had my own artists. Again. I love your story, man. Yeah, yeah, but do you understand the people who was in front of me? Somebody bought Biggie Smalls to me. Ask Bernard. Bernard said, somebody bought Biggie Smalls to me to the barbershop. Next thing you're going to say Michael Jackson came to you first.

No, listen, I don't got no cap, me. No, I'm fucking with you. Somebody put Biggie Smalls to the barbershop, and I didn't listen to him. This is before. This is before. This is before a party and bullshit. He was definitely Biggie Smalls.

He was nobody. And they, and, all right, so let's describe that situation. What did they say? This is the next dude from Brooklyn? I don't know. I don't know who. But, no, bring your ass over here. I don't know who was it, but.

Come on, but no. And who barbershop I was at, but. I don't know who Mike He's going to have to He's going to have that No, no He could just Yes

Yes Yes he said Oh, that's the barber But that's where He was at He was bought And somebody said Yo check him out

I just didn't get I wasn't there I was getting the haircut To see something Go see something Probably Yo, you was getting so much money

That you ain't see So much more money Not the money I was going to see Whatever girl I was going to see Yo I ain't going to lie You got a lot of

You got a lot of girl problems I watch you on Memphis Greek podcast Because it ain't even out yet And I watched It wasn't girl, I was any rapper You was new, it's what you did It's your green eyes

It's what you did, Norrie. That's your green eyes. No, your green eyes. Every girl wanted green eyes Babies. Is there any other rapper? Any other people? They got green eyes?

No, my father got green eyes. I was the first one to work with ACON too. Damn, Eric. He just, he just flipped the script. What's that story? We ain't, we asked about Africa At all. It's Atlanta.

My boy Devine had him. Nobody knew what to do, so I was just doing a favor for my boy. So I was making records with him. So what was the first record with you and Acon? No, nothing came out. Until Bernard again. Bernard that?

Yeah. Bernard is that link. I'll tell you y'all something. I'm trying to not say the word, nigger, no more. Right. So I'm kind of like fucked up. Because I don't want to say,

I really want to be a better person as an individual and I don't want to say nigger no more but Bernard that nigger Listen man Bernard bought me the Fugis I turned him down

Jesus Bernard bought me Naz Nause came to the studio and I didn't I didn't understand it so I'm gonna start getting mad at you right now so so I gave him

I gave him Wait a hold on tell me tell me stop If they didn't understand him Stop wait up I need to know I need to know the Niz story

how did that happen so bernard was managing at a management company two that he was at what's that big management company what's the big management company you was working for he had DOS communications had all these groups

all these big groups Fuji's Nause and all these other rock groups they was all assigned to where Bernard was managing that so now was making illmatic at the time so he comes to Long Island

so I sit with him but I'm not playing him nothing that is explosive I'm playing them seamless beats don't forget I got Red Man I got DOS effects

I got K Solo so the type of rhyme I'm hearing is people that got technique and style and doing something different I'm mad at you go ahead continue

I'm mad at myself you was in a hit squad mentality only right so when Nas was I wasn't there but I'm still mad go ahead so when Nas was coming with the

whatever Queensbridge was and how how he was coming up it wasn't registering with me so I didn't take it seriously so after he left me Bernard take him to Pete Rock's house and the rest is history from there

that's the only fuck up that I'm mad that I didn't understand great fucking move Bernard thank God for Bernard man make some noise for Bernard make some noise for Bernard that's the only one

I know that's boo But let me ask you as a person, right? As a person? Yeah, as a person because so many times it's been an opportunity that's been presented to me. Yeah. And like, you know, I'm a runner right now, right? And I know, I know you don't run champs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, run champs. Healthy high. Yes, yes, healthy high. So I'm a runner, right? But sometimes there's opportunities that be presented to me. Yeah. And I just turn this shit down because I don't really need that. What made you turn Nause down or what made you not see Naz?

I just told you. I didn't understand. See, where y'all come from, I almost got robbed in the Lefrak Mall. We didn't sit tomorrow. Yeah, some girl told me. A girl. You have girl problems. Some girls said, listen.

Who are these sticks you messing with, bro? I'm going to say, listen, you got to turn around because niggas is looking at you and they come to get you. Yo, no lie. I'm so sorry. I wish you had my phone number back then. No, you wasn't around, nigga. I wasn't around. You was probably trying to jump him.

I would have had your back anyway. But anyway, I wouldn't, I didn't know. Again, you had Red Man with the shit that he was doing. You know, he was doing, you know, I got it going on. I'm not like to flex. I mean, DeRan, Dr. Fex was bigger than you, and then you had solo. When that SP, it's all my. rhyme has had this other shit

so my mind wasn't at that type of mentality so Queensbridge I don't know I'm not from the city I'm from Long Island so I couldn't understand where he was coming from that's the only thing I could think of I'll tell you this

Eric Sherman Queensbridge is the most important projects in New York City I got you know where Queensbridge is And I'm from left, right. I'm not from Queens. Okay.

But Queensbridge is the only hood in Queens. Right. That is next to Manhattan. Right. It is adjacent to Manhattan. Right. You got to cross over the Queens Bridge. Actually, I forget what hood it is in Compton that has the same as that view.

But Queensbridge. So if you're from Queensbridge and you can see Manhattan, every single day. Right. Do you understand how much that is for you to be a black child growing up and seeing you see the money?

Right. It's right there. And you got to grow up still poor. Right. I eat a hero today, just so you know. You ate what? A hero. What kind?

Turkey and cheese. All right. Just to make sure that I can level myself the fuck out. I got you. You got money, too. Relax. I said, too.

Relax. But I would have loved to see that moment that you see Nause. So you didn't tell him, no. No. It's just you didn't see that. You just didn't understand all the time. Listen, Dave Rock and Real Studios got burnt down. I wish I had those tapes because I can't even play the dance

or play the old music that we did so I can listen. Because we did three records. Wait, y'all recording records? Yeah, we recorded. Oh, my God. I just told you. I just told you it wasn't the dope beats, though. He still rhyme out of respect.

You gave him the throwaways? Time out, time out. So you saying you didn't deliver on your part? Yeah, I didn't, because I didn't. Oh, no. Right. He gave him the okie doke. He gave him the okie doke.

I did. Not of a real one. I think you did deliver. I think it was. I didn't. I think he's honest, which is dope. I'm telling you real because I had a crew. I had to save it for my niggas.

I'm going to be honest. And I was say this behind your back, but I'm going to say it to your face. I've never heard a whack Eric Sherman beat. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, bro. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

There is no whack Eric Sherman beat that exists. I just wanted you to know that. It wasn't for that time, you say. No, I knew it wasn't that. I knew what I was playing. No, I knew what I was playing. Okay. I knew I wasn't playing your C-grade beats.

Right. Okay. On another note, So, Eric, rest of peace to Hurricane G. I just wanted to know. How did you guys connect originally? I met her at a spot, and Ella O'Couche was dancing with her. What?

Yeah, and then Ella went- Start your story? I just, once they, once it was over, I said something to her. And she was like the hardest Puerto Rican female ever. Yeah, she was. She was ill, man. What would you ask that? Huh?

What made you? My daughter's going to be so happy. I've always been. No, no. I connected with Hurricane G while she was around as a big tape DJ. Okay. And being Latino, of course, man, Hurricane Key. I know.

I talked to Stretch and Barbito and a song called Milky is still one of their favorite song that they still play as an underground from Hurricane. I got her stuff that she did with Ola Records. Like, I got those white labels, all of them. I love Hurricane. My daughter are going to be so happy. Yeah, I brought this up. Like Lexi, what a mom?

No, we love Hurricane G, man. She knows Hurricane G? That's my daughter. That's their kid. Their daughter. They got a kid together. Oh, shit. I forgot that part.

Yeah, man. Now, rest in peace of Hurricane G's. My fault. I forgot you as outside. You've been outside for a long time. Everything about you is about girls. Yeah, I swear to you. I'm split a gun.

I'm mid-bleek. No, because you got to understand. Listen, I'm from Long Island, right? I know you from. When I first went to the Apollo on everything I love, Norie, I lost my mind. I called my mom and said, mom, it's so many black people out here. Because don't forget, we from Long Island, so it's mixed, Puerto Rican, white, and black. I forgot that part.

So when I went to the city, I lost my mind. And Apollo, Harlem, that's Harlem. So then, black city. I found out about the Bronx, and my first love was in the Bronx. So I was on Webster Avenue, yes. Cindy worked at the label at Fresh Records. She was one of the

receptionists. Now we know how you got the deal. Right? No, no. He didn't have no juice. Then... He was romancing the stone. Then, now, all my family's in pink houses. So I'm there every day. Brooklyn Pinkhous? Right.

So now... Oh, my God. I'm there every day, so now I get a hold of Brooklyn. And then I went to bedside, and it was curtains. I'm like, every... They had... No, he was sick. The only part I didn't mask, I didn't mask the Queens. Like, after that thing happened to me,

don't do it. Whatever, I didn't go back to Queens. But every other borough and Staten Island where I got robbed at was me going back for seconds. I love Eric Sherman so much. Quick time with slime. We ready for it? Yo, Sonny Dee, come on.

You got a designated drinker. Okay, yes. Come on, Sonny. And you picked a Haitian. That's very strategic. You picked the Haitian. Anybody drinking with us out there? Anybody got ready to do quick time with slime with us?

So you know the rules, right? Yeah, but anybody... He picked the Haitian. I want to make sure you said something that people would learn from so we can get... So when we do the clips, that it's exciting. Yeah. No.

No, that... Did we say something that is worth... Yeah, we show about viral moments? Yeah, we're not good. And Eric, we're not done, man. No, we're good. You're my brother, man. I got you.

We're going to take... We're good. Listen, so the... So the rules for the audience and for Eric Sermon, we'll give you two choices. Okay. If you pick one, we don't drink. Nobody drinks. Okay.

I mean, y'all could drink, though. All right. If you say both or neither, like you don't want to answer the question, we all take a shot. Sonny D, N-O-R-E, myself, and y'all if y'all want to drink with us. Yeah, drink. But we want stories more than anything else. This is about stories with anybody we mentioned. Okay, drink.

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Are you a professional drinker? What's going on, bro? Wait, is that considered the drink? No, man. Oh. Hell no. Okay. No, relax, buddy. You should be ready right now, man.

Pit bulls, vodka. All right. Go ahead. Red Man or Kay Solo. Oh, my God. Why y'all do that? That's not me. That's not me.

That is not me. Yeah, he got, it's Reggie. It's Redman. Oh, you picked? You're a red man. I got to pick it. You got to pick Reggie? Oh, shit.

I'm gonna take a side. Even though Solo, oh my God, but it's Red Man. He was... All right, let me ask you. This is something DMX is not here to actually say that. I asked DMX. What the fuck was DMX and Kay Solo's beef about? Do you remember?

No, it happened in jail. In jail. Because they said that in jail that they was both spelling. Spellbound. Spelling. So DMX claimed that he started. Yes, he started spellbound. In jail. And Solo stole it from him. Oh, shit.

And DMX was adamant too. But Solo was also adamant too. So if somebody comes and does it, and somebody doesn't do it, it's kind of hard to believe because DMX didn't do it. So if you did do it, you know, why didn't you do it, at least one time, you know, but DMX was like, adamant.

Like, nah, that's me. Yeah, I ain't a lie. You know what I'm saying? And I believe both of them. I kind of do. I kind of do, like, if you were in this, if you locked up and they're just like, you know what, that's dope.

I believe both of them. No, because DOS effects was the same way. One guy was doing this style, not knowing that this other guy, that what they told me. They didn't know that both of them were doing. The group members didn't know that each other was doing a similar style.

Oh, you told each other. Holy shit. That's wild. Oh, I don't know that. Yes. Oh, I didn't know that. Yes. To make it the digity style, for lack of a better term.

In the lunchroom, they found out that each other, each of them rap. And then they got introduced to each other. Now, I think the igity style came with the both of them, but they met to somebody saying, my boy, rap. Wow, that's crazy. I heard that story. That was meant to be then. I didn't, I didn't understand that. story to you just okay go ahead go ahead let's go all right major or independent independent now

all right mob deep or mop oh my god you got a drink take a shot or take a drink if you got one guys cheers there's no way i'm going to be able to differentiate that me not those too look me up b you know and both of them was on my new project coming out Friday the duo's probably. We're going to get into that before when we're done here. All right. De La Soe or Tribe Call Quest? Oh my God. Hey, yo, it's so crazy because

I got to go, you know what? De La Sol is from Long Island. And then Fight Dog's favorite group is EPMD. You got to drink. Cheers, cheers, salute. Drink up with us. Coming out on Friday. I'm not on a project. Fowl, nigga, you? No, yeah. I gave it to B. So you on volume, too. You ain't on this one.

All their shots, bro. You're killing me over here. You know, and the New De La So album is incredible. And fantastic. One of the best albums I've heard in a long time. It's incredible. It's fantastic. Shout out to Massapia doing that movement.

Even though they might look at us as old heads. We're not old hands. Listen, listen, I tell people all the time. If you can still do it, then do it. If you can't, then don't do it. But I don't give a fucking how old you are. If you can rap, still rap. And if you're mad, then you got to step your game.

up. That's all about that. There's no age on art, man. No doubt. Period. Sit your ass down. Bigel or Biggie? Biggie Smalls. Rest and peace. You said Biggie Smalls? Biggie, I got to give it to Biggie Smalls. All right. Kane or Jay-Z? No leading the witness. You got to say, because don't forget, Jay-Z came through that way. Right? Jay-Z would say Kane.

That's the way I look at it. Ooh, wee. Jay-Z is a problem. But I got to give it to a cane because he came from there. Yeah, first, first. All right, so Big Daddy came. Daz effects or the artifacts?

I mean, I think I kind of... Oh, Daz effects. You're going to say, yeah. Even though Tame won them is incredible. No doubt. No doubt. The artifacts are off the chain. Rockefeller or Rough Riders?

Oh, wow, you got a man. Okay. Listen, now you're talking about the roughfires with the locks coming in? Listen, it's whatever in your mind makes you pick. But you're talking about... I'm not talking about anything. It's your criteria. Stigo, Kristen, Neat, Freeway, J.

God damn. And then you got D and... Yeah, you got a drink. Cheers, y'all, cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers. Salute. Yo, those are... Yo, those are some good ones. All right.

No, you drink it? No, no, no, I'm not. Nas or Rakim? Raqim. He's the reason why I rhyme. He's the reason why everybody rhymes. He changed the game. Even though you dissed him.

Come on the MC. I ain't never dissed him. After run DMC style came him. He changed everything. Everything that we hear and see now is from that man. And Rakim is still doing it at a high level, too. You know what? You know what?

I want to say something. Real quick. That you just said. You said at the Run DMC. And I went to Puerto Rico. And when I went to Puerto Rico, I seen Bad Bunny perform. And it was the best concert I've ever seen in my life. Right.

Besides Run DMC. Wow. So I went to dinner and ironically, I'm here for DJ Collett today gonna go to Contessa to go see DJ Collet today and DJ Collet said this is the best concert

he ever saw in his life I heard him say that and I corrected him immediately I said did you ever see Run DMC perform? Wow he said no and I was like that's why you say

but I ain't gonna lie to you Bad Bunny wherever the fuck you are wherever the fuck you doing yes, you are one of the motherfucking best concerts I've ever seen like I've never seen

like this guy walked around he he did everything as a hip-hop artist as a reggaeton artist like he did everything that I wanted to see wow and then

I sat in his seat by mistake you said in His seat? Yeah, I was like, so he comes in the, yeah, in the casito. Right. Casita. All right.

Sorry, sorry. Ah, relax. No, you're the fakers Puerto Rican ever in the history. Really? Then, for real, you are the fakers. I was in the, so I sat there, and then he looked at me, and he gave me the biggest five. He was like, Nory, thank you for sitting in, like, basically sitting in my seat, and I got up, and I gave it to him. And he kept continuing performing it.

And this is one of the best concerts I've ever seen in my life. Like, um, next to Run DMC. Okay. Because if you're from Queens, it's everything. And you see Red DMC perform. Right. Like, I was at the garden when they pulled up that motherfucking Adidas. I know. I know.

When they pulled up that Adidas shit. You was there. I was a child, and I was dear. God bless my mama. Do you see Ella Cucci people back then? No, not at that time. Okay, good. It was run DMC first.

I got you. So, but that's the second best concert I've ever seen in my life. Bad Bunny, wherever you at, I respect you. I want you to know that I... I love how you represent Puerto Rican people. I love how you represent our culture. And I'm going to always...

I'm going to always support you, bad bunny, whatever the fuck you at. And I don't even know if you fuck. Like, he's always showed me love. Every time I seen him, he, he grabbed me and took a picture with me. I don't know why. And Joe was kind of a little bit salty.

You're not really a Puerto Rican like that, but I... Who me? Yeah, I mean... No. All right. Let's see if there's... I love that. Let's see if there's any Puerto Ricans in the building.

Puerto Rico! Puerto Rico! I love that. Not so many Puerto Ricans here. Let me tell you something. I love you something. that and I'm going to address that real quick. If you could speak a whole paragraph right now.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, no, no, no, no. I speak hard. I speak hard. You ready? You ready? You know, you know, I've risked my whole career to prove that I'm Puerto Rico. I know that. Come on.

I've risked my whole career. Do you understand the man's setting to the right of me is my closest. I love EFN so much. I love Fat Joe so much and they both pull me to the side. And they both said, do not do reggaeton. I was not fucking with reggaone. The first one, you was the first one to ever. They both told me, don't do it.

And you know what I did? Did it. He said, I did it. And guess what? I look like the smartest person at the table right now. Because, because I love it. But I did tell him to drink chance. No, I love you, bro.

I know sometimes I don't, we don't even speak sometimes. Oh, you said, yeah? No, I love him. And I knew what he was trying. He was trying to protect me. Okay. Fat Joe was trying to protect me. Okay.

But I was trying to go to the next. I saw it. He did. I saw where Reggae Don is going to be. I saw who bad buddy is. This motherfucker's performed for the Super Bowl. Do you think that happens without Baudigua, Mom, and her.

Do you think that happens? You don't think that happens without me? No, no. And guess what? No. And guess what? Motherfucker? Yeah.

I'm claiming it. That's my shit. I was the one that said, yo, reggae don't is going to move the whole world. So then now you got Winston and Yandel. Now you got Zion and Lennox. Now you got Daddy Yankee. Now you got Thago Gadoron.

Now you got. Uh, uh, Don Omar. Now you got all of the... That doesn't exist without the yala! Okay. See? Without the yala! When the yala put it, I put my whole career.

You know what black people told me? Oh, now you Puerto Rican? You know when mother... Damn, did somebody say, fuck me, nigga? I woke him up. See? See, what I did? I woke him up to get that flex.

I did that to you. Thank you. Thank you. You welcome. They was telling me. Yo, are you sure? This is what you want to do? EFN, and Fadjo came from love.

They came from love. Everybody else didn't come from love. Everybody else was like, you're going to fuck up. You did the war report. How can you do Oyamikado? It doesn't make sense. And you know what? I still did it.

And guess what? Bad Bunny is performing at the fucking Super Bowl. I was right I was right But let me tell you A lesson to be learned with Norrie's journey with reggaeton is that To be the first in the door

And it's not to say first in reggaeton The first in the door To break down the The English market's Openness to reggaeton Yeah To see that first person through the door That first person

Usually has to be coups struggles Doesn't get the You know the accolades They deserve It's now that all these artists that are successful in reggaeton can look back and say, yes, thank you, Nori.

Yes. Thank you for helping us. I know, yeah, all right. That nigger's sweating, though. You're like, what? Yola! The other day, I swear to God, the other day I'm in Dorado, Puerto Rico,

and I see Zion and Lennox. I see Zion, excuse me. Why did I put them both in the, like they're two people? And Zion sees me, and we just hug each other. That's it. We didn't have to say nothing. Right. I just, I gave him a hug.

He gave me a hug, and that was it. But I sacrificed my whole career, Eric Sherman. You did. To put my Puerto Rican people front line. I did that. I did that. As a friend, I can say whatever to you. Please.

So I'm glad I sparked you up and got you. You got me hype. You got me hype. So now the world can see how you started this. I did that. I love that. Next question. Real quick.

and without getting into too much detail, had he not broken down those barriers and struggled with it, struggled with it. I know you struggled. No, he struggled with it. There might not be a drink chance today had he not struggled with it.

Oh, because it, right, right. Because he came to Miami. He knew I wasn't a Wigong guy. He's like, let's do hip-hop shit again. And then drink chance was born amongst that world that we created there. Okay, all right. And yeah, and after, after Riget Dome,

my man, sitting here, here to me to the right, said, we did military, crazy raw radio. Satellite radio. Let's bring that shit back. And he did that. And this is why we here right now. Y'all all. F in. Thank you. I got you. So, all right, we almost done with quick time.

Let's go. Go ahead. All right. Hit Squad or Def Squad? Ha ha ha ha. What, wait, where do the people say? Yeah. What do you say? I was saying, man.

You better not pick. His squad was a huge inspiration to me. I can't pick it because I come from the first one. So you got to drink it. Yeah, nah. His squad was a huge inspiration, man. His squad. Because it started, you know.

It was a breakup and then the death squad came, but. All right. Don't we making a noise for his squad? No. No, no, no, no. No noise. No noise. All right.

Keith Murray or Prodigy? Come on. Rest of peace of Prodigy, guys. I don't wait these questions. I got, you know what? Thank you, Boris. Pardy got a lot of more work, but there's no way I can pick between those two.

So we drink it. Y'all drink it with us still? Y'all still with us? And that's both Long Island, if you think about it. We drink it. Yeah. And Keith Murray, nobody know probably.

I want to say this one more time. I know, I think he got to. his own podcast. No, I don't know. I would like to go on his park. Shout out to Keith Murray, man. Like, who said you got to show each other? Yeah, yeah.

He announced that he had a park. When? I don't, I don't know. But you know, I saw him. Come on your show. You know, I saw him. I know your, and sit, squashed. I saw him.

And I ran up on him. I know. I tried to, like, take it. Because he had the Pous Seisty mask on. And I was like, get off. And he was like, nah. I was like, yo, how can we like tell people that we squashed it? If you got the pooh-s-a-sy mask on.

I heard. So, Keith Murray, I just want you to know wherever you at. I want to be able to say, want to support your career. I want to support what you doing. He's a legend, man. I know a legend. I know, like, it was a little bit misunderstanding. Yes.

But I want to be the person that takes care of older. You squashed. You squashed already. And I got your back. They've been squashed. I got your back. Man, I'll do your show and I want you to do my show. That's right.

All right. That's real shit. Thank you, thank you. That's real. That's real. Okay, I got to. Make some noise for that. Because I got a peep.

You heard you heard what we say. Keith Murray on drinks chance. We're going to make it happen. Yeah, we want Keith Murray on drinks chance. All right. New York or Atlanta? New York. All right.

DJ Scratcher, kick Capri. Drink? Yeah, you got to drink. You got to drink because, again, kick your pre-started, but scratches my DJ too, but kick your pre-started this. I don't make these questions. Good. Second to last.

Capone or Noriega. You got your drink. All right, drink. Let's drink. Thank you, Boris. Thank you. Because I might pick Capone. Good, nigga.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Damn, this is my Mahuana hitting right now. Yeah. right last one go for it buddy loyalty or respect respect yeah he said that quick yeah i've never heard study study rushing to the bathroom can we get security to help sunny to the bathroom because loyalty can be compromised meaning again you can't really trust the loyalty because somebody can say yo they'd be loyal they can easily be compromised but wouldn't that not be loyalty at that

point yeah but again they can say they're loyal respect you can't you got to earn that you can't just you just can't get respect like that you know you have to earn that loyalty you can act like you's loyal and then somebody can come to you with a proposition and say some shit to you and you can easily just switch it quickly okay i want both to respect always automatically A loyal nigger is not really loyal all the time. He can easily be compromised. I can switch up. I got what you're saying.

Yes. I'm using the bathroom. Come right back. Jesus, Christmas. Yeah, good? Yeah, we ain't. We in. All right, Eric Sherman.

Let's talk about this duels project. Okay. How is the project? I thought Capone Noriego was, you talked about it here with us. What? He says CNN's not on the project? Not this one. I gave Norie the beat, but Norie's busy.

Right. So I had the record made, you know, that I don't want them to rock on, but it'll be volume two, though. So for the people that don't know, can you explain what the project is? Yeah, before Nas was doing what he's doing, about three and a half years ago, I thought that my colleagues, I was wondering why they stopped making records. So I didn't like that. So I said, you know what, maybe they don't have nobody to influence them or somebody to make records for them or probably, you know,

they feel like they don't have to do it or they can't do it. So I said, I'm going to look at all the rap groups that was out and I'm going to make new records on them. Strictly duels, right? Just duels, just duels. Two rappers. There's like 24 of them in the game. And if you look up, the dual partnership is about 24 rap groups.

So I started with making a couple of DMs and phone calls on certain people and then stop putting them in my head who I wanted to produce and the ones who I didn't, who I never produced before, you know? So I think the first record I, one of the first records I did was know you by nature right but knowing you by nature is not on this project

and then I did but you say you did you did a record with them it's just not on this problem right and I did laws the underground I did the record with them too

they didn't make this one neither right so time starts going by COVID comes in after that then COVID came

that was two years so then when I was signed a 300, like how to deal with Kevin Liles, then they sold 300. So that took time off. So now it's

three years now, you know? So once Warner picked it back up again and DNA, which is another, my partners who I'm with, I started going back again and saying, you know what, let me finish the project up.

So Dynamic Duo comes December 5th. Dynamic dual. Right. Volume 1. And you're spitting on all the records too? Not rhyming.

Just production. This production. Okay. So I put out... The MOP joins out. I put out a two-pac and biggie record first. Right? That's out now?

Right. That's out now. And then I put out the Red Man and Method Man record out second. Right? Then I put out the Snoop Dog Nate Dog record out too.

Just snippets of them. Oh, okay, okay. And now I got the MOP coming on the release of Friday with a video. That looks crazy. Sounds crazy, it looks crazy. This album, I was

definitely trying to fill the void of hip-hop. So it's way before Nas Mass Appeal what he's doing now. The run that they're doing now, right. You know what I'm saying?

So, but on this project, that's coming December 5th, dynamic duos. Three days ago. So it's out now by the time this comes out. Snoop Dog, Nate Dog, Helter Skelter, Mobb Deep. Redden Meth, Dog Pound, Cypress Hills, EPMD. Man. Oh, shit. Conway, the Machine, Lil Wayne, Game.

I'm missing somebody. Is Conway and who, though? Conway, Little Rain and Game is on the same record. That's my, that's my bonus. Okay. Volume 2, I'll be putting other rappers together that making my own dynamic duos too. Got you, got you, got you.

So, but again... Couponing Noriega or something like that. No. No, it's supposed to be Capone and Noriega. No, no, like... Cipon and Nore? No, y'all are a group. I mean that taking some other rappers

that are in the group. Right, that would be, yeah, but he's thinking that you're playing duels with duels. Dules with duels. That's what I thought. But on the volume 2, I got Black Star, Ray and Ghosts. Capone and Oriore.

Jada Stilesby. A. Bulletin. I ain't going to lie, I really wanted to be on this project. I really did. I know. Let me tell you something. What happened, man? I was so busy with this.

busy. I was so busy with this shit that, and... And I told him, I said, yo, I said, volume one is heavy. You see the names. I said, listen, I'm like, nigger, you see what I'm working with. No, I'm going to tell you what you told me. I'm going to tell you what you told me. You said, you're going to regret this shit. And I'm here right now.

Hey, but you know what? I'm here right now regretting this shit. The volume 2 is strong because, again, I got 8-ball of MJG, U-G, so I kind of I kind of mix stuff up. you know, on, listen, man, I was already doing this. I got to keep saying this. Wait, you said UGK. You got Pimp C.

Yes. So I was always, listen, man, I was able to get Sean Price. I was able to get new Prodigy vocals. I was able to get new Nate Dog vocals. Like, I didn't, like, this is not no shit that you hearing is going to be like, yo, we heard that. Nah, nigger, this shit, I really put this shit together to make sure that I did the right thing. That's telling Norrie.

You're going to regret this shit, nigga, like, yo, but volume two, that's strong. He said you go And I was just like December 5th Friday And then God bless me For the moment Me and Capone Wasn't on the same level

So I just didn't want to like I know And then Then Mia Capone is so much great right now We're so good We all get We all have that The EPMD almost didn't make it

So again I understand Yeah y'all went through Your trials and tribulation You gotta say this This is our last question everyone thinks it's so like crazy to be like a Wu-Tang group

nine people people don't understand two people is just as lethal just as lethal listen Tretchen Vinny don't work no more um

Pete Rock and CL don't work no more um you got um I'm name it I'm missing a lot of groups yeah I know yeah

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and I was a child kind of like when y'all kind of like was breaking up or like doing it, I was like, man, what's wrong with these two people? And then I went through it myself. And I always owed you a apology. Always groups, man. No matter what, it's a rock group. There's an assistant group.

There's always groups. Either somebody break off or do their own thing. It's just the fact. And again, I'm going to say this one thing, though, too. You know, I don't know about y'all, but it's always got something to do with financials. You know, like somebody is not doing the money right, you know? Somebody is doing, and then it could be your fault or my fault that I'm not handling my business. So I can't fault the other person.

It's probably me didn't do the right thing. But then you can't have two presidents. Somebody has to be the president, and somebody has to be the other one that you teach. And so when you fall back, you don't get taught, you know, everything. And somebody else is exceeding, you know? So, you know, I tell everybody, too, this game is a fucking business. Do not look at people do not like you. The labels don't like you.

Your lawyers don't like you. Your managers don't like you. This shit is a business. I'm not saying for everybody, but the majority, That be Kiki and ha-ha. They're not your friends. They're not your friends. They are here for a purpose.

They have an agenda. Just know that. You do shit. Try to do shit yourself. Try to get somebody who you know, like, how you got F in, somebody who you trust. But do not put your trust in these people because they don't give a fuck about you. These people are trying to get paid, period.

If I would have known that earlier, I probably would have been way, way, way off in that. But we all got jerked. pause in the beginning no matter what we all caught it because we don't know the game wasn't built for us it wasn't made for us it was made for them to do what they had to do

so just know that yo man I want to thank you so much man yeah thank you Eric okay before I go did we get anything that's going to be able to the fact that everything no because I look at that

I look at seeing everything the thing is this is a lot crowd. Okay. So this is a different We don't do this often, but we're glad we're here. Yeah, me too. Guess what? Big up to everybody that's in the crowd. Yeah, we look up to Monster. Shout out to the art. Hey, I'm talking to

graffiti. Can I say one one thing? Everybody that's listening, I'm telling you right now, because everybody that make beats and that rhyme and that's in the studio, it doesn't have to be a habit. Y'all can make money with this to people that follow you.

Five hundred people who are your fans. 500 people. They will pay for you. They're your fans. So just know that, again, just with 1,000 people giving you $5,000,

it's $5,000. Imagine making that every month. Who makes that? You know what you got to go to work for to do that? Like to go, so imagine these people who are making 30 grand a month

is not a fucking dream. if you just take the chance and say, okay, here's my community, I'm about to build them up, and whatever I do, they follow with me. And I'm going to make sure that I'm not doing this just for my health. The computer is out there for y'all.

The fucking system that we do with the web is out there for y'all. The platform that you're able to get is out there for y'all. But you've got to look at it and just look at it as fuck this other system, fuck everything else, fuck trying to be worldwide,

Take your community and then focus on them, and they would pay you as long as you out there, period. That's right. Be a leader, not a follower. I want to bring my homie up. And saying that, be a leader, not a follower, D1 is a perfect example of that. Oh, D1. Yo, I'm so, you know, wait, wait, Dee. Sit down.

Sit down. My back. Sit down. My back. Yeah, Dee. Yes, sir. You know, I'm going to say this. I'm so much of a fan of you.

I'm so much of a fan of your positivity. Yeah. Right? Because I wake up like you. And then I become somebody else. A master. Afterwards. He wakes up Victor turns into Noriega.

Damn. Wow. But what I want to tell you is how much you mean. You're really a positive brother. And you really like, you really like, talk to the people so I just want to like I just want to

I just want you to holy shit look that's the devil that's the devil yeah it's definitely the devil because a man of God is in the building

right now you heard but make some noise if you got love for God you hear me yeah and you're from New Orleans oh I'm from that 504 all day you hear I mean

listen you probably from I'm sorry you probably from the worst hood ever but lead it I mean we from the We truly from a place where you are underdog

from the time you're born in New Orleans, you feel me? You're underdog from the time you're born. With that being said, man, I made it out because I kept God first in my life. But I did something very simple, y'all. We all have a slingshot, right? Y'all know David defeated Goliath. You know the story of David and Goliath?

Yeah, yeah. There you go. David defeated Goliath using a what? A slingshot. In life, everybody has a slingshot. And we all got to figure out what's our slingshot. What's your gift? What's your passion?

What's that gift that you can use to defeat the Goliaths in your life, right? So I recognize that the Goliaths in my life, like racism, like poverty, like discrimination, hatred, all these things. Man, hip hop is my slingshot. So I got to figure out how could I use hip hop and use this powerful platform to defeat all the demons in this world? And that's why we can't be making hip hop that's making it sound cool to murder your fellow black man. We can't be making hip hop that's making it sound cool to sell dope to your community, you feel me?

We can't be making hip hop that's making it sound cool to disrespect women, but then we turn around and call them queens. It don't make sense. We cry when rappers die, but we love when they glorify murder when they're alive. And it don't make sense. So I don't mind going against the grain.

because David was the underdog. You hear me? So me being the underdog in this rap game, I'm going to do it my way. I'm not going to curse in my music. I'm going to keep God first and everything I do. I'm going to stand on business. If I got to disagree with people at sometime,

Rick Ross, people like that, I love you. And you got to squashed it, Joe. There you go. I love you, but I got to be honest with you. Jim Jones, we squashed it. You heard me, meek Mill is love. You are meek. I remember y'all squashing it as well.

But it's okay if you disagree sometimes, as long as the reason why you disagreeing is because you're trying to grow at the end. You feel me? Yes. But I didn't know you would be here because had I knew you had been here, I'd have gave you your flowers as well.

Oh, man, I could come back. We can give them now. You get them now. You deserve this. You deserve this. Man. I'll wake up online and I look forward to your messages.

I look forward to what you're saying. I look forward. Dang, though. I look, I look, I look, I look, I look, I'll be like, all right, cool, that's what I wanna hear. And you know, I grew up being a gangster rapper, right? That's what they call me, all right? But that's not who I wanna be.

Come on, Norrie. Talk your talk, man. That's not who I wanna be. The whole industry don't wanna be there. That's not who I wanna be. And when I look at your messages and I look at your positivity, You know, look at how you are addressing our community. I always love that.

You think you, you think you, maybe you thought you wanted to meet me today. I wanted to meet you today. Lord, have mercy, man. All glory to God, man. I'm going to tell you one thing, too. I could have signed D1. Signed D1. You've been fucking up.

You been fucking up. You ain't signs nobody. You better hurry up? No, no. You better hurry up aside D1. I met D1 at a podcast, right? How many years ago? Two years ago.

Two years ago. He got a fuck out of here. He had 2,000 followers. Wow. Wow. And now he got almost a million. Yeah. So everybody can say that they don't want to hear what he's saying,

but how the fuck did he get them followers? A shift is happening. Because behind closed doors, everybody wants. to be on this side but they don't want to show it because it's not, I don't want to switch it's not cool to talk about that. But E. Norwich just changed my life. I was just about

to say to any word. Yeah. But I'm not going to say the word. But you know what I'm going to tell you? We all need you. All right. Yeah, the game does. Man. You, it's not. Hear me the fuck out. We all need you. That's why me. Scrossed it

with you. That's why I'm crossed it with you. That's why raw scrossed with you that's why everybody because after you you hear your plight and you hear your story it makes sense so continue to do what the fuck you doing I'm so sorry now the new juvenile single's out right oh yeah I'm featured on juvenile new single

yeah me and man and fresh yeah yeah and I got a new single out featuring Boosie and I got a new single out featuring Fredo Bang we're shooting a video tomorrow and man it is and I don't even know I'm allowed to say this yet. Say it.

Oh, man. Say it. No, legally, I don't know if I'm allowed to say it. Norris, you're about to get me in trouble, man. Sorry. Hey, man. Just know that I'm also a professor, a college professor as well. You heard of me?

Make some noise for that. And I need, yeah, yeah. I need y'all to know that Norie just did something that changed my life forever. He is an OG in the game who has the power to change people's lives by co-signing it. Most people will be a fan of you behind closed doors. But secretly, they're secretly selfish, so they don't want to change somebody's life. Norrie chose to pull me from the side of the stage

and come up here and change my life by giving me his co-sign, right? Hip-hop is changing right now. Hip-hop is changing. You will get left behind if you want to hold on to the old way of doing things. Robbing artists, glorifying murder, glorifying drug dealing, disrespecting women. All a work in progress. We're all trying to grow.

But if you're not trying to grow like Norrie is, like EFN is, like E-Sermon is, like D1 is, you're going to get left behind. Make some noise, man. Let's go. Some noise. I know my wife is here somewhere, and Angie Martinez told me, she said, you should promote this more, right? But I have never spend the night out ever, not once.

My wife is there. I don't know where she is at. She better step up something. Right, right. But I have never spent. And I don't know how to promote being a loyal man. I don't know how to promote because there's no platform for that. There's no platform for that.

You have never heard that. So I said that to Angie Martinez and Angie Martinez is like, yo, you have to start promoting that. My wife is there somewhere. And I know she, I know she, I know she, I know she, she happy. I know she got to be because, you know why? Are you real? The truth.

Yes. It's the truth. No, I've never spent the night out. Not once. I know. Not once in my whole time of being with her. Make some noise right, right? Look at the girl.

The women love it. I like that. The women love that. Like that. Lloyd. So, but again, let me just end this with this. Like, I really respect you. I respect you.

I know what you're doing and I want you to continue to do it. Eric Sherman, you're gonna. You're my brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother, brother. I moved to Miami because of you. I don't like it, but I came in. I feel like you did.

I feel like you did. I came anyway. Smize the motherfucker, let's go. So everybody here, I love y'all. Thank y'all for coming out. Thank y'all for coming out. Monster. Monster.

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